1-Sep-1998 14:19:33-GMT,3817;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA00798 for ; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 08:19:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA30417; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 08:52:53 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 1 Sep 1998 08:46:46 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA30079; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 08:46:43 -0500 From: viator@infodata.com (Viator, Lora) To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Distilling Interleaf Documents Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1998 09:49:29 -0700 Message-ID: <000701bdd5c8$7d2b3100$3f03a8c0@lora.infodata.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-Reply-To: <000A88A1.@doim6.monmouth.army.mil> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== You must print to Printerleaf files and then convert them to PS via the PL2PS filter. Then distill the resulting PS files Lora Viator Infodata Systems -----Original Message----- From: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com [mailto:owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com]On Behalf Of Martin Fitch Sent: Monday, August 31, 1998 6:21 AM To: 'acrobat'; 'PDF-L'; Mera; Jose Subject: Re: [PDF] Distilling Interleaf Documents in a similar situation, i was advised (by Ms Saccusso of roundtable.com.au, I think/thank) that the problems resulted from not having the Ileaf fonts on the distiller platform. I was printing to ps in I6 on hp-ux 10.x. But I was distilling with 3.01 on win95. In addition to the defects noted, the text was not searchable. ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: [PDF] Distilling Interleaf Documents Author: "Mera; Jose" at Internet_Gateway Date: 8/26/98 8:26 PM ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== We have a customer who is converting Interleaf 6 files to PDF, and is running into major inconsistency problems. They are outputting PS files and then distilling them. There are several issues: 1. Results are inconsistent. PDFs don't always look the same for the same document. 2. Many fonts are gibberish. When using the text tool and checking the font, it shows all types of weird characters. 3. At times text is white on white background Any help with how to achieve consistent results is appreciated. Adobe points to Interleaf and Interleaf has been no help. Jose Mera DocMaestro Business Area Manager Alliant Techsystems, Inc. 13133 34th Street N. Clearwater, Florida 33762 tel: 727/572-2491 <-- new area code e-mail: jose_mera@atk.com web: http://ais.atk.com _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 1-Sep-1998 15:51:21-GMT,1780;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA03317 for ; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 09:51:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA04345; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 10:27:48 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 1 Sep 1998 10:26:30 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA04217; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 10:26:29 -0500 Message-ID: <510B6C2A8380D111997200A0C99DBA273FF1CD@MARS> From: "Schiff, Kenny" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] PCL Update and Exchange.... doesn't work? Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1998 10:14:35 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== I just tried to run the PCL updater on a machine that only has Exchange on it. No go. It appears that he installer is not Exchange aware. Anyone else encounter this, and is there a workaround. I meanwhile installed reader and then ran it, but I'm sure this won't update my Exchange. BTW, this is on Win95. _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 1-Sep-1998 16:05:49-GMT,1960;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA03768 for ; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 10:05:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA05783; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 10:50:56 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 1 Sep 1998 10:49:57 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA05694; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 10:49:56 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: KEYCORP From: "Karen L Mibus" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <85256672.00568354.00@keybank.com> Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1998 11:46:39 -0400 Subject: Re: [PDF] PCL Update and Exchange.... doesn't work? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== ====> Kenny Schiff wrote: I just tried to run the PCL updater on a machine that only has Exchange on it. No go. It appears that he installer is not Exchange aware. Anyone else encounter this, and is there a workaround. I meanwhile installed reader and then ran it, but I'm sure this won't update my Exchange. BTW, this is on Win95.<====== I installed and updated Exchange with the PCL fix. Reader is not installed on my PC with Windows 95. Maybe you have a corrupt PCL fix file? --Karen _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 1-Sep-1998 19:11:02-GMT,2276;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA08965 for ; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 13:10:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA14818; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 13:50:12 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 1 Sep 1998 13:47:23 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA14633; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 13:47:22 -0500 From: GGR2@chrysler.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: CHRYSLER To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <85256672.00669E5F.00@lngodd02.notes.chrysler.com> Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1998 14:26:11 -0400 Subject: [PDF] Blank pages when launched within Navigator Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== My client distributes their information via its intranet. PDF files are opened from within the web pages and viewed through Acrobat Reader. This works very well except in one instance where the pdf file opens but the pages are blank. This file opens properly when launched as a separate file and when opened within the browser (Navigator 4.05) as a separate file. It is only when it is opened via the link in the web page that the pages are blank. I have checked the link's properties and found nothing wrong. I have also re-established the link without results. I would appreciate hearing from anyone who has successfully wrestled with this problem in the past. Thanks. Gary G. Robinson Technical Communications Consultant Norrell Information Services - Detroit ggr2@chrysler.com _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 1-Sep-1998 19:53:48-GMT,2590;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA10031 for ; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 13:53:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA17158; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 14:37:10 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 1 Sep 1998 14:35:32 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA16980; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 14:35:31 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Marino, Kristine" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] multiple indexes Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1998 15:40:31 -0400 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Hello everyone! We are experiencing an indexing problem. We have converted 3 books into 1 CD ROM. We have a file structure that looks like this: Folders 1, 2 and 3 are on the same directory level within Explorer, but within the layout of the conversion project, folders 2 and 3 are within folder 1. For example, you can get to folders 2 and 3 after opening up folder 1. All files within the 3 folders have the same index file (.pdx) attached to them. During the build, we have added all 3 folders to the same index file..... After indexing is built....and the search function is run, the index shows up more than one time during separate searches (but appears no more than two times). Is this happening because folders 2 and 3 should have been subdirectories of 1 within the Explorer structure. We are using WIN 95, Exchange 3.01. Thanks for any help! Regards, Kristine Marino -------------------------------------------- Kristine Marino Technology Resource Centers, Inc. 649 North Lewis Road Limerick, PA 19468 Voice: (610) 495-3043 x215 Fax: (610) 495-3092 kmarino@techcent.com www.techcent.com _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 1-Sep-1998 20:18:30-GMT,4058;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA10737 for ; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 14:18:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA18433; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 14:55:40 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 1 Sep 1998 14:53:53 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA18295; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 14:53:52 -0500 From: "Scott Hamlow" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Font problems is Adobe Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1998 12:55:53 -0700 Message-ID: <002501bdd5e2$86af4300$45a2fecc@scotth.fourgen.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2232.26 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-reply-to: Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== There could be several problems here. I would start by verifying that everyone is using the same fonts (not just same name as there are TrueType fonts with the same name as Type 1 fonts). If you're using Type 1 fonts, make sure everyone has the same version of ATM installed and configured properly. I would then check to make sure Frame isn't doing any font substitutions (check the Frame console if it comes up.) I would also check to verify that everyone has Distiller set up the same way so that you aren't sub-sampling, not downsampling. Also, verify that everyone is embedding the fonts and not subsetting them either. The printing problems mentioned may be due to non-PS printers being used. Get the 3.01RA update for Reader/Exchange from Adobe's Web site. Also, make sure everyone has the same preferences checked in Reader/Exchange. > ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== > > We made the change from Adobe PageMaker to Adobe FrameMaker several months > ago in our documentation area. We have begun experiencing > problems with our > fonts when FrameMaker documents are converted to PDF documents. > The strange > thing is, however, that not all of us are having the problem. When we > distill the files, no errors are encountered and the file distills. When > you view the PDF file, however, it looks jagged and the screen > captures are > blurred. These same documents when printed looks absolutely normal at the > printer we use, but others at different locations have been experiencing > printing problems. The problem also appears when users try to > cut and paste > out of the PDF document into an application such as Word. The result is a > bunch of garbage on the screen. > > Another person in our group can distill the exact same file and get a > perfectly normal PDF document. We are stumped to say the least and would > appreciate any experience any of you may have with this situation. > > Myranda Hughes > Ontario Systems Corporation > myrandah@ontario.com > > > _______________________________________________________ > > -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- > * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * > + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + > _______________________________________________________ > > > _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 1-Sep-1998 22:27:34-GMT,2059;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA14203 for ; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 16:27:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA25926; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 17:11:06 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 1 Sep 1998 17:09:46 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA25793; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 17:09:45 -0500 Message-Id: <199809011104.HAA15151@smtp.snet.net> Subject: [PDF] Watermarks Date: Tue, 1 Sep 98 07:07:06 -0500 x-sender: david.golden@pop.snet.net x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0, March 15, 1997 From: David Golden To: "PDF List" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== My company is scanning thousands of documents to PDF. We are looking for a way to watermark them. Is there a plug-in or other third-party product available to do this? I noticed that the Adobe CD comes with a Stamper plug-in (in the SDK folder), but all it does is make a red square on the page. Does the Stamper require somebody to program it in C++? David Golden ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "When those who benefit are not those who do the work, technology will ultimately fail or be subverted." (Grudin's Law) _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 1-Sep-1998 23:30:06-GMT,2158;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA15929 for ; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 17:30:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA29021; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 18:12:34 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 1 Sep 1998 18:11:17 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA28887; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 18:11:16 -0500 Message-Id: <199809012311.QAA05864@dove.prod.itd.earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.0c (197) Date: Tue, 01 Sep 1998 16:14:40 -0800 Subject: Re: [PDF] Watermarks From: "C. Scott Miller" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== >My company is scanning thousands of documents to PDF. We are looking for >a way to watermark them. Is there a plug-in or other third-party product >available to do this? Take a look at Oddjob from 5D Solutions Ltd. ($300) at http://www.five-d.com. You can also look at PDFcontrol from Computerised Document Control (http://www.docctrl.co.uk/docctrl/) but it is considerably more expensive. C. Scott Miller PDF R_e_s_e_a_r_c_h__C_o_m_p_a_n_i_o_n A Designer's Guide to Adobe's Portable Document Format http://www.performancegraphics.com a production of Performance Graphics miller@performancegraphics.com _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 2-Sep-1998 12:47:56-GMT,3762;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA29626 for ; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 06:47:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA00769; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 07:30:50 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 2 Sep 1998 07:23:52 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA00288; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 07:23:49 -0500 Message-Id: <35ED38B4.AC89433C@moen.com> Date: Wed, 02 Sep 1998 08:23:16 -0400 From: Jennifer Amon X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03C-SGI [en] (X11; I; IRIX 6.3 IP32) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Watermarks References: <199809011104.HAA15151@smtp.snet.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== We're using a batchable plug-in from Computerstream. It was developed for us, but it is for sale, and it works like a charm. It is driven by a watched directory and a control file. Contact Peter Mathews at Computerstream for more info (pmathews@computerstream.co.uk). You won't find that product on their web page. At least it wasn't there the last time I checked. > -- /// --- /// --- // Computerstream Limited >-- // // // // -- // Sutton Executive Centre >- // + -- // + // Two Duke Street > // + // + // Sutton Coldfield >--// // --// // // West Midlands >-- /// /// -- /////// B72 1RJ, UK > > Tel: (+44) (0) 121 362 1930 > Fax: (+44) (0) 121 362 1881 > web: http://www.computerstream.co.uk/computerstream David Golden wrote: > > ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== > > My company is scanning thousands of documents to PDF. We are looking for > a way to watermark them. Is there a plug-in or other third-party product > available to do this? > > I noticed that the Adobe CD comes with a Stamper plug-in (in the SDK > folder), but all it does is make a red square on the page. Does the > Stamper require somebody to program it in C++? > > David Golden > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > "When those who benefit are not those who do the work, technology will > ultimately fail or be subverted." (Grudin's Law) > > _______________________________________________________ > > -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- > * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * > + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + > _______________________________________________________ -- _____________________________________________________________________ Jennifer R. Amon Phone: 440-962-2471 Sr. Programmer/Analyst FAX: 440-962-2739 Moen Incorporated Personal: jamon@apk.net 25300 Al Moen Drive Business: jamon@moen.com North Olmsted, OH 44070 Web: http://junior.apk.net/~jamon/ _____________________________________________________________________ _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 2-Sep-1998 13:28:54-GMT,4907;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA00281 for ; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 07:28:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA03375; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 08:12:54 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 2 Sep 1998 08:06:34 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA02955; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 08:06:33 -0500 Message-ID: <007e01bdd672$57140eb0$7f3cdec1@penn.smi.ch> From: "Krattiger Franco" To: Subject: [PDF] Problem w/ PDF Forms Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1998 15:05:20 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_007B_01BDD683.1A722530" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_007B_01BDD683.1A722530 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi everybody I'm new to this list and fairly new to the PDF Format. Currently, I'm generating PDF Forms for use on our website. These work = fine under the Win version of Netscape and IE. However, on the Mac, I'm experiencing some difficulties. There the form = simply won't submit, i.e., the browser just sits there and makes no attempt whatsoever to transmit the form data to the web = server. Under IE, I can reproduce this problem consistently. Under = Netscape, I was able to submit successfully from one computer, but I am = now having trouble with another. Remember, these forms work fine under = Windows... Does anyone have a clue as to what might be the matter here? Any help is greatly appreciated. I need to fix this as my boss is = breathing down my neck. Cheers, Franco fkrattiger@smi.ch ------=_NextPart_000_007B_01BDD683.1A722530 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
Hi = everybody
 
I'm new to this list = and fairly new=20 to the PDF Format.
 
Currently, I'm = generating PDF Forms=20 for use on our website.  These work fine under the Win version of = Netscape=20 and IE.
However, on the Mac, I'm experiencing some difficulties.  = There the=20 form simply won't submit, i.e., the browser just sits there
and makes no attempt whatsoever to = transmit the=20 form data to the web server.  Under IE, I can reproduce this = problem=20 consistently.  Under Netscape, I was able to submit successfully = from one=20 computer, but I am now having trouble with another.  Remember, = these forms=20 work fine under Windows...
 
Does anyone have a clue as to what = might be the=20 matter here?
 
Any help is greatly appreciated.  = I need to=20 fix this as my boss is breathing down my neck.
 
Cheers,
 
Franco
fkrattiger@smi.ch
------=_NextPart_000_007B_01BDD683.1A722530-- _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 2-Sep-1998 15:11:47-GMT,1845;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA02267 for ; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 09:11:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA11345; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 09:51:46 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 2 Sep 1998 09:39:01 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA09327; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 09:38:58 -0500 X-Sender: ixplorer@pop3.mailbox.co.uk Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199808281632.LAA14188@everglades.binc.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Priority: 1 (Highest) Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1998 15:42:03 +0100 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: guy hollister Subject: [PDF] Re: pdf-digest for August-28-98 [V2 #307] Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Time difference between WIN 95 and Mac OS 8.0 Both running Adobe distiller and exchange when we on the mac end send to them on the pc end there is about 10 hours added to the modified time and when they return a pdf there is about 4 hours ahead of us any ideas ????????? Guy Hollister _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 2-Sep-1998 23:55:42-GMT,2369;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA15266 for ; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 17:55:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA11800; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 18:43:05 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 2 Sep 1998 18:41:16 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA11684; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 18:41:13 -0500 Message-ID: <35EDD863.1E78F804@nng.net> Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 09:45:09 +1000 From: Rod Peno Organization: NNG X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Re: pdf-digest for August-28-98 [V2 #307] X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== guy hollister wrote: > > ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== > > Time difference between WIN 95 and Mac OS 8.0 > > Both running Adobe distiller and exchange > > when we on the mac end send to them on the pc end there is about 10 > hours > added to the modified time and when they return a pdf there is about 4 > hours ahead of us > > any ideas ????????? Confirmation perhaps that the two systems are 'worlds apart'...... ; ) > > Guy Hollister > > _______________________________________________________ > > -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- > * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * > + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + > _______________________________________________________ _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 3-Sep-1998 0:05:25-GMT,1919;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA15480 for ; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 18:05:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA12569; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 18:55:37 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 2 Sep 1998 18:54:32 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA12454; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 18:54:31 -0500 Content-return: allowed Date: Wed, 02 Sep 1998 16:54:26 -0700 From: "Cutler, Wendy MHR:EX" Subject: RE: [PDF] Blank pages when launched within Navigator To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Message-id: <2B38D2AA1790D1119BB200805F1529E87ABDBC@jet.bcsc.gov.bc.ca> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== > . It is only when it is opened via the link in the web page that the pages are blank I had this happen to me on a site I visited last week using MS Internet Explorer 4.0, so I don't think it's specifically a Netscape problem. I also was able to find the file in some temp directory and read it from there. _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 3-Sep-1998 11:35:04-GMT,2494;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA14014 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 05:35:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA07095; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 06:15:35 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 3 Sep 1998 06:14:14 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA06966; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 06:14:13 -0500 Message-Id: <199809031114.HAA16322@smtp.snet.net> Subject: [PDF] Re: Time difference between WIN 95 and Mac OS 8.0 Date: Thu, 3 Sep 98 07:16:38 -0500 x-sender: david.golden@pop.snet.net x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0, March 15, 1997 From: David Golden To: "PDF List" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== >Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1998 15:42:03 +0100 >From: guy hollister >Subject: [PDF] Re: pdf-digest for August-28-98 [V2 #307] > >====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== > >Time difference between WIN 95 and Mac OS 8.0 > >Both running Adobe distiller and exchange > >when we on the mac end send to them on the pc end there is about 10 hours >added to the modified time and when they return a pdf there is about 4 >hours ahead of us > >any ideas ????????? > >Guy Hollister Guy, Check the time zone your Mac is set to (Date & Time control panel). Make sure it it set for your local time zone. Even if your clock has the correct time, if the zone isn't set correctly you will get funny times in your e-mail. David Golden ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "When those who benefit are not those who do the work, technology will ultimately fail or be subverted." (Grudin's Law) _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 3-Sep-1998 11:53:23-GMT,2039;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA17241 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 05:53:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA08104; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 06:40:20 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 3 Sep 1998 06:39:28 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA08034; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 06:39:27 -0500 Message-ID: <35EE7FB7.61C604C3@emtex.com> Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 12:38:31 +0100 From: Chris Cooper Organization: Emtex Ltd. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5b1 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en-GB MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Re: Time difference between WIN 95 and Mac OS 8.0 References: <199809031114.HAA16322@smtp.snet.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== David Golden wrote: > Check the time zone your Mac is set to (Date & Time control panel). Make > sure it it set for your local time zone. Even if your clock has the > correct time, if the zone isn't set correctly you will get funny times in > your e-mail. And do the same for your PC: Start - Settings - Control Panel - Date/Time - Time Zone Cheers, Chris Cooper Emtex Ltd "Tall, dark and gruesome - and then I grew some more!" _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 3-Sep-1998 12:17:20-GMT,2389;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA21521 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 06:17:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA09041; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 06:59:49 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 3 Sep 1998 06:58:46 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA08930; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 06:58:45 -0500 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Re: Time difference between WIN 95 and Mac OS 8.0 In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 03 Sep 1998 12:38:31 BST." <35EE7FB7.61C604C3@emtex.com> Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 12:58:28 +0100 Message-ID: <17425.904823908@isode.com> From: Chris Ridd Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== On Thu, 03 Sep 1998 12:38:31 BST, Chris Cooper wrote: > > ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== > > David Golden wrote: > > > Check the time zone your Mac is set to (Date & Time control panel). Make > > sure it it set for your local time zone. Even if your clock has the > > correct time, if the zone isn't set correctly you will get funny times in > > your e-mail. > > And do the same for your PC: Start - Settings - Control Panel - Date/Time - > Time Zone There is also a known problem if you are using HFS+ - dates are stored on disk in UTC (mostly the same as GMT, which is what London uses during winter), and moving files between systems may mean the timestamp on the files gets updated wrongly. There are web pages which talk about this, eg macintouch.com, or macfixit.com. There's probably even an Apple Tech Note. Chris (c.ridd@isode.com) _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 3-Sep-1998 12:49:34-GMT,2244;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA23868 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 06:49:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA10773; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 07:33:16 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 3 Sep 1998 07:32:09 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA10679; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 07:32:05 -0500 From: csnyder@mcgraw-hill.com Message-Id: <199809031232.AA02237@interlock.mgh.com> X-Mailer: ccMail Link to SMTP R8.20.00.25 Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 08:16:48 -0500 To: Subject: [PDF] White areas around images Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: "cc:Mail Note Part" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Question: I have a pagemaker 6.5 document with a colored background and line art images (bitmap) placed over top. When a pdf is made, the fit page view shows white areas around each of the images, but as the zoom level is increased, the white space disappears. What is the solution to remove the white area in all views? Process: Using either ppd- acrobat distiller, or adobe postscript 4 - and various resolution settings in distiller. The problem seems to be resolution based - as I've been able to make the white space around some of the images go away... but not all. Corbin Snyder Account Coordinator csnyder@mcgraw-hill.com _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 3-Sep-1998 13:08:19-GMT,1896;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA24210 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 07:08:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA11502; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 07:45:57 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 3 Sep 1998 07:45:03 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA11417; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 07:45:00 -0500 Message-ID: <001f01bdd738$86de54e0$2d0d9fcf@default> From: "Jim and Marguerite Ripley" To: Subject: [PDF] PDF FILE SIZE Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 05:43:18 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2120.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2120.0 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== I am scanning documents and capturing to image + hidden text. What are the practical limitations of file size? Rather than one very large file, is it better to break into several smaller? Jim Ripley 50 Rancho del Sol Camino, California 95709 USA Vox 530.644.8078 Fax 530.644.6932 jripley@ns.net _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 3-Sep-1998 16:00:43-GMT,4020;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA28645 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 10:00:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA22789; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 10:43:24 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 3 Sep 1998 10:40:58 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA22543; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 10:40:56 -0500 From: "David M. Davisson" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] PDF FILE SIZE Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 08:37:50 -0700 Message-ID: <000201bdd750$ced39450$a2456cc7@shadow.pfp.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-Reply-To: <001f01bdd738$86de54e0$2d0d9fcf@default> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Jim, I posted a similar question to this forum about 6 months ago. My question was, are there any practical limitations to publishing a 300mb+ pdf file based on tiff images on a CD-ROM. There were few answers, but Diedre Paknad noted that although it might work well on newer, faster machines that it probably would choke older machines, especially older Macs. Subsequent to that, I did more testing on older machines, the results of which were: 1. Any Win95 machine with a 486 or better processor and at least 16mb RAM will do "ok". 2. Any WinNT 3.51 or better machine with at least 32mb RAM will do a bit better. 3. Any old Mac running System 7.1 and below, especially Mac IIsi and IIc, will choke! 4. In any case, the large file size degrades performance to some degree. Performance monitoring on machines running these large file sizes shows that RAM and swap can quickly become starved. We abandoned the idea of large file sizes and continue to produce pdfs in reasonable file sizes. What's reasonable? We find that 30mb and below will produce acceptable results on all platforms. The best performance seems to be below 10mb. In developing CD-ROM products like this, time is better spent on building hyperlink systems between files than on optimization of large files. ------------ David M. Davisson Pacific Financial Printing 650-328-1500 davisson@pfp.net > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com [mailto:owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com]On > Behalf Of Jim and Marguerite Ripley > Sent: Thursday, September 03, 1998 5:43 AM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: [PDF] PDF FILE SIZE > > > > ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== > > I am scanning documents and capturing to image + hidden text. > > What are the practical limitations of file size? > > Rather than one very large file, is it better to break into several smaller? > > Jim Ripley > 50 Rancho del Sol > Camino, California 95709 USA > Vox 530.644.8078 > Fax 530.644.6932 > jripley@ns.net > > > > _______________________________________________________ > > -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- > * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * > + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + > _______________________________________________________ > > > _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 3-Sep-1998 22:21:00-GMT,2841;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA10166 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 16:20:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA14437; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 17:06:32 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 3 Sep 1998 17:03:36 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA14249; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 17:03:35 -0500 Message-ID: <01BDD74C.69C44A40.morps@deltanet.com> From: Mike Morper To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Single Install for PDF Viewer and Forms Plugin Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 15:05:34 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== I am at the Seybold Seminar in San Francisco right now and Adobe announced in a session yesterday that there is a new version of both the Reader and Exchange; each called 3.5. This 3.5 release has the respective Form plug-in already in the build. Cheers, Mike -----Original Message----- From: Tom Mandera [SMTP:tom.mandera@trw.com] Sent: Thursday, September 03, 1998 7:52 AM To: pdf-digest@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Single Install for PDF Viewer and Forms Plugin ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Is there an installation package available that includes Acrobat 3.01 *and* the Acrobat Forms Plugin? Is there a facility to allow customized Acrobat Installers, to accomplish this on my own? Apparently there are users that are having a difficult time downloading (it seems the Adobe FTP server is overloaded an awful lot) the two components, and then installing them. Our client would like a single installer to make the process more "fool-proof" _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 3-Sep-1998 22:33:27-GMT,3458;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA10503 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 16:33:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA15407; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 17:24:41 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 3 Sep 1998 17:23:45 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA15329; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 17:23:44 -0500 From: sgililland@nexstar.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: NEXSTAR To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <87256674.007B39C3.00@pigeon.nexstar.com> Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 15:24:08 -0700 Subject: RE: [PDF] Single Install for PDF Viewer and Forms Plugin Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== does this sound like what you heard? Mike Morper on 09/03/98 03:05:34 PM Please respond to pdf@lists.pdfzone.com To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" cc: (bcc: Sue Gililland/SanDimas/NeXstar) Subject: RE: [PDF] Single Install for PDF Viewer and Forms Plugin ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== I am at the Seybold Seminar in San Francisco right now and Adobe announced in a session yesterday that there is a new version of both the Reader and Exchange; each called 3.5. This 3.5 release has the respective Form plug-in already in the build. Cheers, Mike -----Original Message----- From: Tom Mandera [SMTP:tom.mandera@trw.com] Sent: Thursday, September 03, 1998 7:52 AM To: pdf-digest@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Single Install for PDF Viewer and Forms Plugin ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Is there an installation package available that includes Acrobat 3.01 *and* the Acrobat Forms Plugin? Is there a facility to allow customized Acrobat Installers, to accomplish this on my own? Apparently there are users that are having a difficult time downloading (it seems the Adobe FTP server is overloaded an awful lot) the two components, and then installing them. Our client would like a single installer to make the process more "fool-proof" _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 3-Sep-1998 23:11:48-GMT,2200;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA11389 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 17:11:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA17351; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 17:59:10 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 3 Sep 1998 17:58:07 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA17237; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 17:58:03 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980903155728.024a6bc0@ntmail.bctf.bc.ca> X-Sender: rgutter@ntmail.bctf.bc.ca X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 15:57:28 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Richard Gutter Subject: [PDF] Web links problem Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Am I missing something obvious? I've inherited a PDF file with Web links. Clicking on any link launches a browser, but appends a pair of number to the URL (e.g., http://whereever.com/file.html?6, 100) . The numbers seem to correspond to the position within the text that is clicked, as if these were co-ordinates for some sort of degenerate Imagemap! (The numbers of course do not appear in the Edit URL dialogue box.) What are they, and how can I get rid of them? While some servers will just throw them away, others of course reject the URLs. (If you have a response, please copy it to me as well as sending it to the list, as I only get this list in digest form.) TIA Richard _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 4-Sep-1998 11:26:10-GMT,2535;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA25992 for ; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 05:26:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA23402; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 05:59:32 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 4 Sep 1998 05:55:57 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA23202; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 05:55:54 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Fri, 04 Sep 1998 11:58:32 +0100 From: Drew King To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] OPI files Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Is it possible to make a pdf file from a Quark document containing Lores (placement only) files, or does the document need to contain the Hires (original) files? At the moment when I create the file containing the Lores files I am seeing a white box in Acrobat. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, in advance. Drew King _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 4-Sep-1998 14:55:50-GMT,1965;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA00184 for ; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 08:55:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA03625; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 09:32:38 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 4 Sep 1998 09:28:03 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA03259; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 09:28:00 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: KEYCORP From: "Karen L Mibus" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <85256675.004EE4F2.00@keybank.com> Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1998 10:24:54 -0400 Subject: RE: [PDF] Single Install for PDF Viewer and Forms Plugin Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Mike wrote: I am at the Seybold Seminar in San Francisco right now and Adobe announced in a session yesterday that there is a new version of both the Reader and Exchange; each called 3.5. This 3.5 release has the respective Form plug-in already in the build. Today I tried searching for Acrobat Reader 3.5 at the Adobe site and a list of all the Form 3.5 plug-ins appeared. The Form 3.5 plug-in does not include the Reader or Exchange. Were you given a URL for the 3.5 release? --Karen _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 4-Sep-1998 15:22:59-GMT,2868;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA00823 for ; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 09:22:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA06081; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 10:09:34 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 4 Sep 1998 10:06:03 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA05862; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 10:06:01 -0500 Message-ID: <01BDD7DB.3F6D9DC0.morps@deltanet.com> From: Mike Morper To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Single Install for PDF Viewer and Forms Plugin Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1998 08:08:36 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Well, I just went through my notes and the url that they offered seems to not be correct. I just went through the adobe ftp site and could not find the 3.5 release. Perhaps someone from Adobe could shed some light here.... Sarah? Thanks, Mike -----Original Message----- From: Karen L Mibus [SMTP:Karen_L_Mibus@keybank.com] Sent: Friday, September 04, 1998 7:25 AM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] Single Install for PDF Viewer and Forms Plugin ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Mike wrote: I am at the Seybold Seminar in San Francisco right now and Adobe announced in a session yesterday that there is a new version of both the Reader and Exchange; each called 3.5. This 3.5 release has the respective Form plug-in already in the build. Today I tried searching for Acrobat Reader 3.5 at the Adobe site and a list of all the Form 3.5 plug-ins appeared. The Form 3.5 plug-in does not include the Reader or Exchange. Were you given a URL for the 3.5 release? --Karen _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 4-Sep-1998 15:23:08-GMT,1965;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA00830 for ; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 09:23:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA05991; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 10:07:50 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 4 Sep 1998 10:01:00 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA05525; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 10:00:59 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: KEYCORP From: "Karen L Mibus" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <85256675.00522E89.00@keybank.com> Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1998 10:57:53 -0400 Subject: [PDF] RE: Single Install for PDF Viewer and Forms Plugin Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Mike wrote: I am at the Seybold Seminar in San Francisco right now and Adobe announced in a session yesterday that there is a new version of both the Reader and Exchange; each called 3.5. This 3.5 release has the respective Form plug-in already in the build. Today I tried searching for Acrobat Reader 3.5 at the Adobe site and a list of all the Form 3.5 plug-ins appeared. The Form 3.5 plug-in does not include the Reader or Exchange. Were you given a URL for the 3.5 release? --Karen _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 4-Sep-1998 16:09:45-GMT,2407;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA02109 for ; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 10:09:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA07162; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 10:24:44 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 4 Sep 1998 10:20:50 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA06857; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 10:20:49 -0500 Message-ID: <78070E83FB15D211A34D00805FBE376914CE82@EXCHANGE> From: "Elkins, Jeremy J." To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Need help dynamically combining several PDF's into one Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1998 09:59:59 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Say I have three PDF files - Sometimes I will need the first and second, sometimes I will need the first and third, and sometimes second and third. What I would like to do is keep these documents separate but be able to combined them on the fly. Here is my example: You go to a web page to setup a bank account. You are asked a series of questions to determine the type of account you will need. For each type of account there is an application. For each additional service you want there is an addendum to the application. Based on the questions answered I would like to send them to one page which combines the appropriate PDF files (assuming I have a PDF file for each account application and addendum). Obviously I could manually create PDF for every scenario - but this isn't feasible for what I am trying to do. Thanks in advance. Jeremy Elkins, MCSD mailto:elkinsj@hdvest.com _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 4-Sep-1998 16:09:47-GMT,3955;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA02115 for ; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 10:09:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA08442; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 10:43:16 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 4 Sep 1998 10:40:02 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA08168; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 10:40:00 -0500 Message-ID: <002d01bdd819$48cfc580$b2c314d1@Prometheus.main> From: "Ian Lurie" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] Need help dynamically combining several PDF's into one Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1998 08:32:52 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Jeremy, The first thing that comes to mind is a database-enabled solution. You could, for example, store the ASCII mishmash that comprises each page in a database, which combines the different pages 'on the fly' and delivers it to someone's web browser, email box, or other location. You could also place the original postscript in a database, combine it, and distill it, but that probably just adds a step.... I have a VERY basic demonstration of this concept running at http://www.writtenword.com/acrobatforms Note that you'll need to use Netscape to view the demo... I'm not biased in the browser wars, but the ActiveX control for Acrobat is, apparently... Hope this helps... Ian Lurie The Written Word, Inc. www.writtenword.com Information Design Online, On Paper, and On the Web -----Original Message----- From: Elkins, Jeremy J. To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: Friday, September 04, 1998 8:31 AM Subject: [PDF] Need help dynamically combining several PDF's into one > >====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== > >Say I have three PDF files - Sometimes I will need the first and second, >sometimes I will need the first and third, and sometimes second and third. >What I would like to do is keep these documents separate but be able to >combined them on the fly. Here is my example: > >You go to a web page to setup a bank account. You are asked a series of >questions to determine the type of account you will need. For each type of >account there is an application. For each additional service you want there >is an addendum to the application. Based on the questions answered I would >like to send them to one page which combines the appropriate PDF files >(assuming I have a PDF file for each account application and addendum). > >Obviously I could manually create PDF for every scenario - but this isn't >feasible for what I am trying to do. > >Thanks in advance. > > > >Jeremy Elkins, MCSD >mailto:elkinsj@hdvest.com > > >_______________________________________________________ > >-> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- >* http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * >+ Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + >_______________________________________________________ > > > _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 4-Sep-1998 17:42:37-GMT,2383;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA04819 for ; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 11:42:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA14252; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 12:27:44 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 4 Sep 1998 12:24:41 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA14100; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 12:24:39 -0500 Message-ID: <01BDD7ED.8466EA00.davisson@pfp.net> From: "David M. Davisson" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Need help dynamically combining several PDF's into one Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1998 10:19:35 -0700 Organization: Pacific Financial Printing X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== On Friday, September 04, 1998 8:33 AM, Ian Lurie [SMTP:wrttnwrd@nwlink.com] wrote: > The first thing that comes to mind is a database-enabled solution. You > could, for example, store the ASCII mishmash that comprises each page in a > database, which combines the different pages 'on the fly' and delivers it to > someone's web browser, email box, or other location. Jeremy, Check out http://www.ep.cs.nott.ac.uk/pdf-pl/ for a Perl 5 module that creates PDF on the fly. I have explored this some myself but not implemented it. Its functionality is limited to text and simple graphics only. David M. Davisson Vice President of Technology and Information Systems Pacific Financial Printing 4020 Campbell Avenue Menlo Park, CA 94025 davisson@pfp.net 650-328-1500 _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 4-Sep-1998 18:33:06-GMT,3477;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA06145 for ; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 12:33:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA16515; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 13:13:22 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 4 Sep 1998 13:10:52 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA16306; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 13:10:51 -0500 Message-ID: <78070E83FB15D211A34D00805FBE376914CE83@EXCHANGE> From: "Elkins, Jeremy J." To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Need help dynamically combining several PDF's into one Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1998 13:10:21 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Thanks to everyone who has tried to help me - but I don't think I got my point across - See I have the PDF files - I don't need to create them on the fly (which is really not possible because I need fields in them that the client can fill in) - I simply need to combined them on the fly. i.e. say I have three PDF files - I want to make one PDF out of the three existing PDF files - and they still need to be fillable. Thanks again for all the responses! -----Original Message----- From: Elkins, Jeremy J. [mailto:ElkinsJ@hdvest.com] Sent: Friday, September 04, 1998 10:00 AM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Need help dynamically combining several PDF's into one ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Say I have three PDF files - Sometimes I will need the first and second, sometimes I will need the first and third, and sometimes second and third. What I would like to do is keep these documents separate but be able to combined them on the fly. Here is my example: You go to a web page to setup a bank account. You are asked a series of questions to determine the type of account you will need. For each type of account there is an application. For each additional service you want there is an addendum to the application. Based on the questions answered I would like to send them to one page which combines the appropriate PDF files (assuming I have a PDF file for each account application and addendum). Obviously I could manually create PDF for every scenario - but this isn't feasible for what I am trying to do. Thanks in advance. Jeremy Elkins, MCSD mailto:elkinsj@hdvest.com _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 4-Sep-1998 18:41:02-GMT,4826;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA06304 for ; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 12:41:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA17524; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 13:29:56 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 4 Sep 1998 13:27:09 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA17288; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 13:27:05 -0500 Message-ID: <003e01bdd830$a0b3a700$b2c314d1@Prometheus.main> From: "Ian Lurie" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] Need help dynamically combining several PDF's into one Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1998 11:19:58 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Jeremy, Actually, I didn't do a very good job of explaining what I had in mind.... Typically, we would take the three existing files, go into the ASCII code, and remove the start/end of file statements. We would then create a 'container' that includes the start/end file code. That 'container' resembles a mail-merge document. You could then use a system such as Cold Fusion or ASP to insert the ASCII from your existing PDF pages into the 'container' in whatever order was necessary. It's not exactly simple, but it reduces workload if you've got a lot of possible combinations. Ian -----Original Message----- From: Elkins, Jeremy J. To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' Date: Friday, September 04, 1998 11:21 AM Subject: RE: [PDF] Need help dynamically combining several PDF's into one > >====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== > >Thanks to everyone who has tried to help me - but I don't think I got my >point across - See I have the PDF files - I don't need to create them on >the fly (which is really not possible because I need fields in them that the >client can fill in) - I simply need to combined them on the fly. i.e. say >I have three PDF files - I want to make one PDF out of the three existing >PDF files - and they still need to be fillable. Thanks again for all the >responses! > >-----Original Message----- >From: Elkins, Jeremy J. [mailto:ElkinsJ@hdvest.com] >Sent: Friday, September 04, 1998 10:00 AM >To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com >Subject: [PDF] Need help dynamically combining several PDF's into one > > > >====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== > >Say I have three PDF files - Sometimes I will need the first and second, >sometimes I will need the first and third, and sometimes second and third. >What I would like to do is keep these documents separate but be able to >combined them on the fly. Here is my example: > >You go to a web page to setup a bank account. You are asked a series of >questions to determine the type of account you will need. For each type of >account there is an application. For each additional service you want there >is an addendum to the application. Based on the questions answered I would >like to send them to one page which combines the appropriate PDF files >(assuming I have a PDF file for each account application and addendum). > >Obviously I could manually create PDF for every scenario - but this isn't >feasible for what I am trying to do. > >Thanks in advance. > > > >Jeremy Elkins, MCSD >mailto:elkinsj@hdvest.com > > >_______________________________________________________ > >-> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- >* http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * >+ Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + >_______________________________________________________ > > >_______________________________________________________ > >-> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- >* http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * >+ Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + >_______________________________________________________ > > > _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 4-Sep-1998 18:41:41-GMT,2689;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA06317 for ; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 12:41:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA17525; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 13:29:57 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 4 Sep 1998 13:27:44 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA17338; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 13:27:41 -0500 Message-Id: <199809041827.LAA09858@dove.prod.itd.earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.0c (197) Date: Fri, 04 Sep 1998 11:30:43 -0800 Subject: Re: [PDF] Need help dynamically combining several PDF's into one From: "C. Scott Miller" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== >You go to a web page to setup a bank account. You are asked a series of >questions to determine the type of account you will need. For each type of >account there is an application. For each additional service you want there >is an addendum to the application. Based on the questions answered I would >like to send them to one page which combines the appropriate PDF files >(assuming I have a PDF file for each account application and addendum). > >Obviously I could manually create PDF for every scenario - but this isn't >feasible for what I am trying to do. You might look at NetFormation's Face It! utility software (http://www.netformation.com/pages/frames.html) - I don't have it but it appears to dynamically customize PDF files "on the fly" from data supplied from an online form. This might include combining files although that is not covered in their demos. HTH, C. Scott Miller PDF R_e_s_e_a_r_c_h__C_o_m_p_a_n_i_o_n A Designer's Guide to Adobe's Portable Document Format http://www.performancegraphics.com a production of Performance Graphics miller@performancegraphics.com _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 4-Sep-1998 18:59:02-GMT,2771;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA06751 for ; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 12:59:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA18889; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 13:48:55 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 4 Sep 1998 13:46:35 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA18741; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 13:46:33 -0500 Message-Id: <199809041846.NAA18736@everglades.binc.net> Subject: Re: [PDF] Need help dynamically combining several PDF's into one Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1998 14:47:01 -0400 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: Mark Gavin To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== [Elkins, Jeremy J. wrote on 9/4/98 10:59 AM] > >Say I have three PDF files - Sometimes I will need the first and second, >sometimes I will need the first and third, and sometimes second and third. >What I would like to do is keep these documents separate but be able to >combined them on the fly. Here is my example: > >You go to a web page to setup a bank account. You are asked a series of >questions to determine the type of account you will need. For each type of >account there is an application. For each additional service you want there >is an addendum to the application. Based on the questions answered I would >like to send them to one page which combines the appropriate PDF files >(assuming I have a PDF file for each account application and addendum). > >Obviously I could manually create PDF for every scenario - but this isn't >feasible for what I am trying to do. > >Thanks in advance. > > > >Jeremy Elkins, MCSD Jeremy, AppendPDF was designed specifically for this type of application. More information on AppendPDF can be found on our web site at http://www.digapp.com. Mark Gavin Vice President Digital Applications, Inc. 215 East Providence Road Aldan, PA, USA 19018-4129 (610) 284-4006 mgavin@DigApp.com http://www.DigApp.com _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 4-Sep-1998 20:59:11-GMT,2652;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA09946 for ; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 14:59:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA27126; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 15:45:50 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 4 Sep 1998 15:42:53 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA26888; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 15:42:51 -0500 From: "David Cornwell" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Need help dynamically combining several PDF's into one Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1998 21:46:20 +0100 Message-ID: <000801bdd845$12344380$0441a8c0@davec.docctrl.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <78070E83FB15D211A34D00805FBE376914CE82@EXCHANGE> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Jeremy > You go to a web page to setup a bank account. You are asked a series of > questions to determine the type of account you will need. For > each type of > account there is an application. For each additional service you > want there > is an addendum to the application. Based on the questions > answered I would > like to send them to one page which combines the appropriate PDF files > (assuming I have a PDF file for each account application and addendum). PDFfusion is being used for this and much more sophisticated applications in real life. Check out our web site www.docctrl.com Regards drc --- David Cornwell, Director - Business Development Computerised Document Control Ltd PO Box 5, Chepstow, Monmouthshire, NP6 6YU, United Kingdom Tel: + 44 (0) 1291 635 403 (direct) ; USA: 1-888-240-1752 Fax: + 44 (0) 1291 623 902 www.docctrl.com Forging the link between Document Systems and Acrobat _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 5-Sep-1998 2:02:11-GMT,2021;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA16235 for ; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 20:02:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA10786; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 20:48:01 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 4 Sep 1998 20:44:49 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA10583; Fri, 4 Sep 1998 20:44:47 -0500 Message-ID: <35F099A5.BB6D871D@earthlink.net> Date: Fri, 04 Sep 1998 20:53:47 -0500 From: Scottie X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] HP 890C Printer References: <007e01bdd672$57140eb0$7f3cdec1@penn.smi.ch> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Is there anybody out in PDF land who has a HP DeskJet 890C? If yes, can you successfully print landscape? We have a client with the HP 890C. We design certificates to print landscape. The printer cuts off the right side of the document. We have tried everything from generic printer drivers, Windows 95, Windows NT to even another HP 890C. HP seem to think the problem is with Acrobat. Is there help out there with this printer? Scottie _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 5-Sep-1998 11:01:54-GMT,2020;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA25808 for ; Sat, 5 Sep 1998 05:01:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA01890; Sat, 5 Sep 1998 05:51:04 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 5 Sep 1998 05:46:59 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA01638; Sat, 5 Sep 1998 05:46:57 -0500 Message-ID: <35F1169E.7268595A@neuro.ki.se> Date: Sat, 05 Sep 1998 12:46:54 +0200 From: Virgil Stokes X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] HP 890C Printer References: <007e01bdd672$57140eb0$7f3cdec1@penn.smi.ch> <35F099A5.BB6D871D@earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Scottie wrote: > ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== > > Is there anybody out in PDF land who has a HP DeskJet 890C? If yes, can > you successfully print landscape? Yes. Yes. -- *************************************************** V. Stokes, Ph.D. ---------> Quality Has No Fear BMC, Neuroscience of Time Karolinska Institute SWEDEN *************************************************** _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 5-Sep-1998 17:14:40-GMT,2428;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA02157 for ; Sat, 5 Sep 1998 11:14:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA19270; Sat, 5 Sep 1998 11:59:39 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 5 Sep 1998 11:52:33 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA18812; Sat, 5 Sep 1998 11:52:30 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980905130116.0090d7c0@iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Sat, 05 Sep 1998 13:01:16 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] HP 890C Printer In-Reply-To: <35F099A5.BB6D871D@earthlink.net> References: <007e01bdd672$57140eb0$7f3cdec1@penn.smi.ch> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Depending on how much it's clipping off, the printer probably can't physically print to the right (or bottom in Portrait mode) of the page. Inkjets typically have a wider unprintable area at the bottom than top/sides (in Portrait terms). Choosing Shrink to fit page in the print dialog might help, but only if the driver properly reports its imageable area to Acrobat. >Is there anybody out in PDF land who has a HP DeskJet 890C? If yes, can >you successfully print landscape? We have a client with the HP 890C. >We design certificates to print landscape. The printer cuts off the >right side of the document. We have tried everything from generic >printer drivers, Windows 95, Windows NT to even another HP 890C. HP >seem to think the problem is with Acrobat. > Steve Rindsberg/Prez RDP http://www.rdpslides.com _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 5-Sep-1998 19:53:44-GMT,3936;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA04932 for ; Sat, 5 Sep 1998 13:53:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA28231; Sat, 5 Sep 1998 14:29:23 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 5 Sep 1998 14:26:33 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA28035; Sat, 5 Sep 1998 14:26:32 -0500 Message-Id: <199809051926.MAA13530@mercury.dnai.com> Subject: [PDF] Low-cost low-level security system for CD-ROM publishing Date: Sat, 5 Sep 98 12:31:02 -0800 x-sender: arthur@pop.dnai.com x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: Arthur To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== (My apologies if message is sent twice. I sent original before confirming my subscription to list, so I'm assuming it was not accepted. Hence retransmission.) We're looking for a simple two-code security system (modeled after the Adobe Type-On-Call system for unlocking font files). Here's our application: Publisher of computer textbooks plans to put the full text of about 30 books on a CD-ROM in the form of PDF files. The disks will be given away to potential customers, who can preview any book on their computer screens but cannot print any pages. Customers wanting large quantities of a book will, in exchange for a site-license fee, be allowed to print the book themselves or have a DocuTech or other service bureau do the job for them. Such customers will need only the CD-ROM plus a book-specific, customer-specific password to open the PDF file for printing. Here are our specific requirements: 1. Same CD to be used on Macintosh and Windows systems. 2. Publisher to supply each book file in PDF format with unique passwords for printing, selecting, and modifying. Publisher to maintain database of passwords for books. 3. Publisher to maintain separate database of customer codes for people who have licensed printing. 4. Each book to appear as icon in CD-ROM window. Double-clicking icon launches Acrobat Viewer and opens file, but with printing, selecting, and modifying disabled. 5. To open file for printing, user launches client security program (contained on CD). Program asks for customer code and code given to customer to allow printing of book; program calculates hidden password for printing and, if OK, opens file in Acrobat Viewer with printing enabled. 6. Print-enabling to be allowed from any computer; only requirements are possession of CD-ROM and knowledge of unique customer code and unique book code for that customer. 7. Separate security program needed by publisher to (a) maintain a small database of hidden passwords for book files, (b) maintain a database of customer codes for legitimate licensees, and (c) calculate (from the hidden password and the customer code supplied by the customer) a book code to give to that customer. Thanks for any help you can give. Arthur Luehrmann, Publisher Computer Literacy Press Voice: 510-644-2400 Fax: 510-843-0522 E-mail: Luehrman@compLitpress.com Check our books at http://www.compLitpress.com _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 5-Sep-1998 20:33:45-GMT,1961;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA05641 for ; Sat, 5 Sep 1998 14:33:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA31170; Sat, 5 Sep 1998 15:21:15 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 5 Sep 1998 15:20:17 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA31026; Sat, 5 Sep 1998 15:20:13 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Low-cost low-level security system for CD-ROM publishing Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1998 21:16:53 +0100 Message-ID: <001101bdd90a$5bccf120$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-reply-to: <199809051926.MAA13530@mercury.dnai.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== "Low cost" is a meaningless term. Be specific about what you are prepared to spend, and what economic models would be acceptable. $5000 one off? $2000 per title? $1 per CDROM pressed? Each of those is low cost to the right person. Aandi _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 5-Sep-1998 20:33:50-GMT,2637;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA05650 for ; Sat, 5 Sep 1998 14:33:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA31169; Sat, 5 Sep 1998 15:21:15 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 5 Sep 1998 15:20:18 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA31058; Sat, 5 Sep 1998 15:20:16 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] HP 890C Printer Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1998 21:18:17 +0100 Message-ID: <001201bdd90a$5d350ca0$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-reply-to: <3.0.5.32.19980905130116.0090d7c0@iglou.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Good point. My Epson printer has a minimum 0.55 inch bottom margin which may be the right margin when printing. So, how much is cut off? > Depending on how much it's clipping off, the printer probably can't > physically print to the right (or bottom in Portrait mode) of > the page. > Inkjets typically have a wider unprintable area at the bottom than > top/sides (in Portrait terms). Choosing Shrink to fit page > in the print > dialog might help, but only if the driver properly reports > its imageable > area to Acrobat. > > >Is there anybody out in PDF land who has a HP DeskJet 890C? > If yes, can > >you successfully print landscape? We have a client with the HP 890C. > >We design certificates to print landscape. The printer cuts off the > >right side of the document. We have tried everything from generic > >printer drivers, Windows 95, Windows NT to even another HP 890C. HP > >seem to think the problem is with Acrobat. Aandi _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 5-Sep-1998 20:35:51-GMT,2655;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA05687 for ; Sat, 5 Sep 1998 14:35:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA31505; Sat, 5 Sep 1998 15:27:17 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 5 Sep 1998 15:26:24 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA31436; Sat, 5 Sep 1998 15:26:22 -0500 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19980905202057.00d99cac@env-sol.com> X-Sender: thiersch@env-sol.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 05 Sep 1998 13:20:57 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Tom Thiersch Subject: Re: [PDF] Low-cost low-level security system for CD-ROM publishing Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Don't overlook the fact that, despite the most elaborate security scheme you may implement, as soon as you allow a document to be printed, it can be "stolen"; printing from Acrobat to a PS printer -> FILE: -> Distiller allows a thief to easily create a new, unsecured, untraceable, original PDF document. The only thing missing from the new doc will be your bookmarks, links, and forms, so the more these you use to add value to your original PDF, the more it will discourage theft. Computer software of all types is the most stolen commodity on the planet; why would your products be any more safe than anyone else's? In the end, the only real protections you have are the copyright laws, but of course you have to be willing to enforce them (and likely spend more $$ in the process than your publication is worth in the first place). Tom Thiersch At 12:31 PM 9/5/98 -0800, you wrote: > ... > 6. Print-enabling to be allowed from any computer; only requirements are >possession of CD-ROM and knowledge of unique customer code and unique >book code for that customer. > ... >Arthur Luehrmann, Publisher > _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 5-Sep-1998 21:32:55-GMT,4937;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA06715 for ; Sat, 5 Sep 1998 15:32:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA01707; Sat, 5 Sep 1998 16:19:22 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 5 Sep 1998 16:17:58 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA01596; Sat, 5 Sep 1998 16:17:57 -0500 Message-ID: <35F1AA46.4848316B@psnw.com> Date: Sat, 05 Sep 1998 14:16:55 -0700 From: Lynda Schrumpf Organization: P&L Marketing X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Low-cost low-level security system for CD-ROM publishing References: <199809051926.MAA13530@mercury.dnai.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Arthur, We purchase FileOpen 2.11 cost is $2500.00 but unlimited use. We are having some trouble with locking the users to viewing the documents only if the CD is present on the machine, but I'm confident FileOpen will get it worked out. It is probably just something we are doing wrong, they are working with us very nicely. Check it out at: http://www.fileopen.com Lynda Schrumpf P&L Marketing Pacific Publishing Arthur wrote: > ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== > > (My apologies if message is sent twice. I sent original before confirming > my subscription to list, so I'm assuming it was not accepted. Hence > retransmission.) > > We're looking for a simple two-code security system (modeled after the > Adobe Type-On-Call system for unlocking font files). Here's our > application: > > Publisher of computer textbooks plans to put the full text of about 30 > books on a CD-ROM in the form of PDF files. The disks will be given away > to potential customers, who can preview any book on their computer > screens but cannot print any pages. Customers wanting large quantities of > a book will, in exchange for a site-license fee, be allowed to print the > book themselves or have a DocuTech or other service bureau do the job for > them. Such customers will need only the CD-ROM plus a book-specific, > customer-specific password to open the PDF file for printing. > > Here are our specific requirements: > > 1. Same CD to be used on Macintosh and Windows systems. > > 2. Publisher to supply each book file in PDF format with unique > passwords for printing, selecting, and modifying. Publisher to maintain > database of passwords for books. > > 3. Publisher to maintain separate database of customer codes for people > who have licensed printing. > > 4. Each book to appear as icon in CD-ROM window. Double-clicking icon > launches Acrobat Viewer and opens file, but with printing, selecting, and > modifying disabled. > > 5. To open file for printing, user launches client security program > (contained on CD). Program asks for customer code and code given to > customer to allow printing of book; program calculates hidden password > for printing and, if OK, opens file in Acrobat Viewer with printing > enabled. > > 6. Print-enabling to be allowed from any computer; only requirements are > possession of CD-ROM and knowledge of unique customer code and unique > book code for that customer. > > 7. Separate security program needed by publisher to (a) maintain a small > database of hidden passwords for book files, (b) maintain a database of > customer codes for legitimate licensees, and (c) calculate (from the > hidden password and the customer code supplied by the customer) a book > code to give to that customer. > > Thanks for any help you can give. > > Arthur Luehrmann, Publisher > Computer Literacy Press > Voice: 510-644-2400 Fax: 510-843-0522 > E-mail: Luehrman@compLitpress.com > > Check our books at http://www.compLitpress.com > > _______________________________________________________ > > -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- > * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * > + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + > _______________________________________________________ _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 5-Sep-1998 22:10:11-GMT,1992;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA07399 for ; Sat, 5 Sep 1998 16:10:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA03554; Sat, 5 Sep 1998 16:53:13 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 5 Sep 1998 16:52:12 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA03467; Sat, 5 Sep 1998 16:52:08 -0500 From: "Ian Lurie" To: Subject: [PDF] MS IE 3.0/4.0 Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1998 14:56:32 -0700 Message-ID: <01bdd918$0b4a40a0$988614d1@prometheus.main> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Hi all, This may be slightly off-topic, but: I'm testing a web-based Acrobat system, and would like to see how it works in Internet Explorer 3.0. Does anyone out there know how to set up BOTH 3.0 and 4.0 on one PC? My tiny brain can't seem to get past Microsoft's twists and turns... Thanks, Ian Lurie The Written Word, Inc. Information Design Online, On Paper, and On the Web www.writtenword.com _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 5-Sep-1998 22:11:59-GMT,2894;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA07429 for ; Sat, 5 Sep 1998 16:11:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA04260; Sat, 5 Sep 1998 17:05:18 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 5 Sep 1998 17:04:15 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA04165; Sat, 5 Sep 1998 17:04:14 -0500 From: "MCS" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] MS IE 3.0/4.0 Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1998 17:04:55 -0500 Message-ID: <000001bdd919$36c2fc80$523e5fcc@archetyp> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 In-reply-to: <01bdd918$0b4a40a0$988614d1@prometheus.main> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== I have multiple flavors of OS and Browsers on my system for testing. I use System Commander and have NT Server, Workstation, 95 and 98 running. SC works great with a slight knowledge curve. Hope that helps Kevin Jackson triskelian design -----Original Message----- From: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com [mailto:owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com]On Behalf Of Ian Lurie Sent: Saturday, September 05, 1998 4:57 PM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] MS IE 3.0/4.0 ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Hi all, This may be slightly off-topic, but: I'm testing a web-based Acrobat system, and would like to see how it works in Internet Explorer 3.0. Does anyone out there know how to set up BOTH 3.0 and 4.0 on one PC? My tiny brain can't seem to get past Microsoft's twists and turns... Thanks, Ian Lurie The Written Word, Inc. Information Design Online, On Paper, and On the Web www.writtenword.com _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 5-Sep-1998 23:18:31-GMT,3695;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA08552 for ; Sat, 5 Sep 1998 17:18:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA07777; Sat, 5 Sep 1998 18:08:02 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 5 Sep 1998 18:06:25 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA07577; Sat, 5 Sep 1998 18:06:24 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: kfoss@pdfzone.com Message-Id: Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1998 18:08:24 -0500 To: From: Arthur Subject: [PDF] Low-cost low-level security system needed Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== We're looking for a simple two-code security system modeled after the Adobe Type-On-Call system for unlocking font files. Here's our application: Publisher of computer textbooks plans to put the full text of about 30 books on a CD-ROM in the form of PDF files. The disks will be given away to potential customers, who can preview any book on their computer screens but cannot print any pages. Customers wanting large quantities of a book will, in exchange for a site-license fee, be allowed to print the book themselves or have a DocuTech or other service bureau do the job for them. Such customers will need the same CD-ROM plus a book-specific, customer-specific password to open the PDF file for printing. Here are our specific requirements: 1. Same CD to be used on Macintosh and Windows systems. 2. Publisher to supply each book file in PDF format with unique passwords for printing, selecting, and modifying. Publisher to maintain database of passwords for books. 3. Publisher to maintain separate database of customer codes for people who have licensed printing. 4. Each book to appear as icon in CD-ROM window. Double-clicking icon launches Acrobat Viewer and opens file, but with printing, selecting, and modifying disabled. 5. To open file for printing, user launches client security program (contained on CD). Program asks for customer code and code given to customer to allow printing of book; program calculates hidden password for printing and, if OK, opens file in Acrobat Viewer with printing enabled. 6. Print-enabling to be allowed from any computer; only requirements are possession of CD-ROM and knowledge of unique customer code and unique book code for that customer. 7. Separate security program needed by publisher to (a) maintain a small database of hidden passwords for book files, (b) maintain a database of customer codes for legitimate licensees, and (c) calculate (from the hidden password and the customer code supplied by the customer) a book code to give to that customer. Thanks for any help you can give. Arthur Luehrmann, Publisher Computer Literacy Press Voice: 510-644-2400 Fax: 510-843-0522 E-mail: Luehrman@compLitpress.com Check our books at http://www.compLitpress.com _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 6-Sep-1998 17:02:07-GMT,1908;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA26741 for ; Sun, 6 Sep 1998 11:02:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA29446; Sun, 6 Sep 1998 11:50:35 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 6 Sep 1998 11:48:18 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA29229; Sun, 6 Sep 1998 11:48:16 -0500 Message-ID: <35F2BEFA.F0B87F49@earthlink.net> Date: Sun, 06 Sep 1998 11:57:34 -0500 From: Scottie X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] HP 890C Printer References: <001201bdd90a$5d350ca0$0101c6c0@gateway> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Thanks for your help with my printing problem. When printing my pdf certificate the left margin is about one half inch, the right margin is about one sixteenth of an inch, making the certificate off centered. I tried print to fit. Im still working on the problem. HP does not seem to know what the problem is. Thanks Scottie _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 6-Sep-1998 17:02:09-GMT,2242;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA26748 for ; Sun, 6 Sep 1998 11:02:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA28806; Sun, 6 Sep 1998 11:40:31 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 6 Sep 1998 11:36:36 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA28521; Sun, 6 Sep 1998 11:36:34 -0500 Message-ID: <35F2BC3A.102C3C0D@earthlink.net> Date: Sun, 06 Sep 1998 11:45:49 -0500 From: Scottie X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] HP 890C Printer References: <007e01bdd672$57140eb0$7f3cdec1@penn.smi.ch> <35F099A5.BB6D871D@earthlink.net> <35F1169E.7268595A@neuro.ki.se> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Dr. Stokes, Thanks for your reply on the HP 890C Printer. Could I e-mail you this pdf document to see if you could successfully print it landscape? It's a cleverly done pdf whereby an instructor can fill in as many as 10 recipients names and other information to receive a completion certificate. The data fields would automatically place this pertinent information on each certificate. If there are more HP 890C owners out there, I appreciate they also try to print this pdf. HP will not accept me sending them the file to try an print. Scottie Sir Speedy Printing New Iberia, Louisiana _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 6-Sep-1998 20:37:55-GMT,2336;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA00513 for ; Sun, 6 Sep 1998 14:37:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA08009; Sun, 6 Sep 1998 15:21:08 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 6 Sep 1998 15:16:47 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA07698; Sun, 6 Sep 1998 15:16:43 -0500 Message-Id: <199809062016.NAA07564@mercury.dnai.com> Subject: RE: [PDF] Low-cost low-level security system for CD-ROM publish Date: Sun, 6 Sep 98 13:21:14 -0800 x-sender: arthur@pop.dnai.com x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: Arthur To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Aandi, You wrote: >"Low cost" is a meaningless term. Be specific about what you >are prepared to spend, and what economic models would be acceptable. > >$5000 one off? >$2000 per title? >$1 per CDROM pressed? > >Each of those is low cost to the right person. I know of commercial systems in the $2500 - 5000 range (FileOpen, for example). They are far more complex than we need, and also somewhat inhibiting to the end user, who must always use the same computer or must make an Internet call to print a file. We're looking for something much simpler (with less security, admittedly) at a cost of around $500. Any help would be appreciated. Arthur Luehrmann, Publisher Computer Literacy Press Voice: 510-644-2400 Fax: 510-843-0522 E-mail: Luehrman@compLitpress.com Check our books at http://www.compLitpress.com _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 6-Sep-1998 20:37:57-GMT,2972;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA00521 for ; Sun, 6 Sep 1998 14:37:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA08011; Sun, 6 Sep 1998 15:21:11 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 6 Sep 1998 15:16:48 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA07719; Sun, 6 Sep 1998 15:16:45 -0500 Message-Id: <199809062016.NAA07574@mercury.dnai.com> Subject: Re: [PDF] Low-cost low-level security system for CD-ROM publis Date: Sun, 6 Sep 98 13:21:16 -0800 x-sender: arthur@pop.dnai.com x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: Arthur To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== You wrote: >Don't overlook the fact that, despite the most elaborate security scheme you >may implement, as soon as you allow a document to be printed, it can be >"stolen"; printing from Acrobat to a PS printer -> FILE: -> Distiller allows >a thief to easily create a new, unsecured, untraceable, original PDF >document. > >The only thing missing from the new doc will be your bookmarks, links, and >forms, so the more these you use to add value to your original PDF, the more >it will discourage theft. > >Computer software of all types is the most stolen commodity on the planet; >why would your products be any more safe than anyone else's? > >In the end, the only real protections you have are the copyright laws, but >of course you have to be willing to enforce them (and likely spend more $$ >in the process than your publication is worth in the first place). Thanks. Yes, I'm aware of that and it's a risk/cost we're prepared to bare. Our customers are schools and school districts, and we don't think they are interested in more than their own local needs, which they'll pay for via the site license fee. The fee will vary according to the size of the institution. We want them to be free to print all the copies they want or need at their site. That's the whole idea. Arthur Luehrmann, Publisher Computer Literacy Press Voice: 510-644-2400 Fax: 510-843-0522 E-mail: Luehrman@compLitpress.com Check our books at http://www.compLitpress.com _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 6-Sep-1998 20:39:16-GMT,2506;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA00554 for ; Sun, 6 Sep 1998 14:39:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA08885; Sun, 6 Sep 1998 15:31:57 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 6 Sep 1998 15:29:39 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA08675; Sun, 6 Sep 1998 15:29:37 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] HP 890C Printer Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1998 18:42:55 +0100 Message-ID: <000001bdd9d4$e0598820$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <35F2BEFA.F0B87F49@earthlink.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== > Thanks for your help with my printing problem. When printing my pdf > certificate the left margin is about one half inch, the right > margin is > about one sixteenth of an inch, making the certificate off > centered. I > tried print to fit. Im still working on the problem. HP > does not seem > to know what the problem is. That sounds normal - exactly what my Epson printers would do. The top and bottom (here, left and right, because it is landscape, right?) margins are not equal. So the printable area is not centred on the page. Acrobat fits in the printable area. On my Epson, there is an option to pick a page size of "letter - centered" or "a4 - centred". This sets both margins equal to the larger - 0.55 inches, and does indeed cause Acrobat to print centred. So, you seem to be seeing normal operation. Aandi _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 6-Sep-1998 20:40:48-GMT,2492;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA00569 for ; Sun, 6 Sep 1998 14:40:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA08010; Sun, 6 Sep 1998 15:21:08 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 6 Sep 1998 15:16:51 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA07763; Sun, 6 Sep 1998 15:16:49 -0500 Message-Id: <199809062016.NAA07579@mercury.dnai.com> Subject: Re: [PDF] Low-cost low-level security system for CD-ROM publish Date: Sun, 6 Sep 98 13:21:19 -0800 x-sender: arthur@pop.dnai.com x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: Arthur To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== You wrote: >We purchased FileOpen 2.11 cost is $2500.00 but unlimited use. We are >having some >trouble with locking the users to viewing the documents only if the CD is >present on >the machine, but I'm confident FileOpen will get it worked out. It is >probably just >something we are doing wrong, they are working with us very nicely. Thanks for the suggestion. I saw FileOpen at Seybold SF a few days ago and am in correspondence with its president. The problem is that security is locked to an individual computer. We want our customers to take the CD, customer code, and file code to any DocuTech service bureau at any future time and have the printing done without bothering us or having to make an Internet call. If you discover a product along these lines, please let me know. Thanks. Arthur Luehrmann, Publisher Computer Literacy Press Voice: 510-644-2400 Fax: 510-843-0522 E-mail: Luehrman@compLitpress.com Check our books at http://www.compLitpress.com _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 7-Sep-1998 8:07:19-GMT,2805;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA13388 for ; Mon, 7 Sep 1998 02:07:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA13186; Mon, 7 Sep 1998 02:54:31 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 7 Sep 1998 02:53:39 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA13110; Mon, 7 Sep 1998 02:53:38 -0500 Message-ID: <35F391D8.C9221CEE@nng.net> Date: Mon, 07 Sep 1998 17:57:16 +1000 From: Rod Peno Organization: NNG X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Web links problem X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: <3.0.5.32.19980903155728.024a6bc0@ntmail.bctf.bc.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Richard Gutter wrote: Having just read this question again I realise the 'answer' I just sent doesn't help at all.... time to go home... > > ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== > > Am I missing something obvious? I've inherited a PDF file with Web > links. Clicking on any link launches a browser, but appends a pair of > number to the URL (e.g., http://whereever.com/file.html?6, 100) . The > numbers seem to correspond to the position within the text that is > clicked, as if these were co-ordinates for some sort of degenerate > Imagemap! (The numbers of course do not appear in the Edit URL > dialogue box.) > > What are they, and how can I get rid of them? While some servers will > just throw them away, others of course reject the URLs. > > (If you have a response, please copy it to me as well as sending it to > the list, as I only get this list in digest form.) > > TIA > Richard > > _______________________________________________________ > > -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- > * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * > + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + > _______________________________________________________ _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 7-Sep-1998 8:07:19-GMT,2984;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA13389 for ; Mon, 7 Sep 1998 02:07:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA12987; Mon, 7 Sep 1998 02:51:11 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 7 Sep 1998 02:49:16 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA12829; Mon, 7 Sep 1998 02:49:14 -0500 Message-ID: <35F390CE.90745337@nng.net> Date: Mon, 07 Sep 1998 17:52:49 +1000 From: Rod Peno Organization: NNG X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Web links problem X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: <3.0.5.32.19980903155728.024a6bc0@ntmail.bctf.bc.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Richard Gutter wrote: hey Richard, You may have already gotten this response but... These look like links for 'named destinations' (Like an anchor link in a HTML document) The numbers relate to page numbers in the target PDF? You should be able to alter the links in Exchange with the link tool? hope this helps > > ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== > > Am I missing something obvious? I've inherited a PDF file with Web > links. Clicking on any link launches a browser, but appends a pair of > number to the URL (e.g., http://whereever.com/file.html?6, 100) . The > numbers seem to correspond to the position within the text that is > clicked, as if these were co-ordinates for some sort of degenerate > Imagemap! (The numbers of course do not appear in the Edit URL > dialogue box.) > > What are they, and how can I get rid of them? While some servers will > just throw them away, others of course reject the URLs. > > (If you have a response, please copy it to me as well as sending it to > the list, as I only get this list in digest form.) > > TIA > Richard > > _______________________________________________________ > > -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- > * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * > + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + > _______________________________________________________ _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 8-Sep-1998 1:11:48-GMT,1641;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA03067 for ; Mon, 7 Sep 1998 19:11:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA04834; Mon, 7 Sep 1998 19:52:51 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 7 Sep 1998 19:46:45 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA04419; Mon, 7 Sep 1998 19:46:42 -0500 Message-ID: <35F47F42.87691B42@nng.net> Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1998 10:50:52 +1000 From: Rod Peno Organization: NNG X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] link to URL with target X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== hi, Is it possible to create a link in Exchange to a URL with a _target? thanks! rod peno designer | nng http://www.nng.net _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 8-Sep-1998 6:16:59-GMT,2810;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA09035 for ; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 00:16:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA22073; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 01:02:58 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 8 Sep 1998 01:01:10 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA21965; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 01:01:08 -0500 Message-Id: <98Sep8.080052gmt+0200.29571-1@baz-s-fw.baz.ch> From: Yannick Wolf To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Illegal-Object: Syntax error in Cc: address found on baz-s-fw.baz.ch: Cc: "'RodPeno'" > ^-illegal end of route address, missing end of address Subject: Re:[PDF] link to URL with target Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1998 08:00:09 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id BAA21960 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Hi Rod, Unfortunately, I don't think it is possible ... (if I am wrong, I would be pleased to know it!). We are actually porting our CD-based ordering system on the web, and the solution we have taken is to show the pdf file within a frame (pdf files are always shown within the same frame. We don't have found the way to access an other frame...). Well, if someone knows something else on this subject, please reply to the list ... Yannick ===================== Yannick Wolf PDF Team BMG ComServ Das Softwarehaus der Basler Mediengruppe Hochbergerstrasse 15 CH-4002 Basel, Postfach Tel :++4161 639 16 84 Fax :++4161 631 53 10 Mail : y.wolf@baz.ch ===================== Rod Peno wrote: ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1998 10:50:52 +1000 From: Rod Peno Subject: [PDF] link to URL with target ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== hi, Is it possible to create a link in Exchange to a URL with a _target? thanks! rod peno designer | nng http://www.nng.net _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 8-Sep-1998 16:36:51-GMT,2087;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA21836 for ; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 10:36:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA19898; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 11:04:11 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 8 Sep 1998 11:01:14 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA19752; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 11:01:12 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980908121003.0092a8f0@iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1998 12:10:03 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] HP 890C Printer In-Reply-To: <35F2BEFA.F0B87F49@earthlink.net> References: <001201bdd90a$5d350ca0$0101c6c0@gateway> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Print to fit may help with clipping problems, but it'll leave the document printed off center. Acrobat will send data sized to fit the imageable area of the printer, the printer will print it as such, but the printer's imageable area isn't centered on the page. Sometimes you can beat it into submission by figuring out what the largest unprintable margin is and making that the margin all around when you design the page layout. Steve Rindsberg/Prez RDP http://www.rdpslides.com _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 8-Sep-1998 17:14:10-GMT,3045;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA22999 for ; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 11:14:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA22568; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 11:54:02 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 8 Sep 1998 11:52:12 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA22443; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 11:52:08 -0500 From: sabahat_ashraf@mentorg.com (Sabahat Ashraf) Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1998 12:51:55 -0400 Message-Id: <9809081651.ZM2121@danm> In-Reply-To: Arthur "[PDF] Low-cost low-level security system for CD-ROM publishing" (Sep 5, 12:31pm) References: <199809051926.MAA13530@mercury.dnai.com> X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.1 10oct95) To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Low-cost low-level security system for CD-ROM publishing Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== I think the other folks have covered your problem pretty well. All that needs to be said now [and was implied by the others] is this: The printer must have come with at least two pieces of documentation; a cheatsheet with some quick-and-dirty settings [cartridge changes for types of paper, if any; paper sizes and types; and so on] and a full-blown manual. Both should have the "Print Area"/"Printable Area"/"Unprintable Margins" settings listed. The full-blown manual definitely will. Check them out. And then it is a matter of either making the margin settings in your document so that you are not trying to print where the printer don't shine ... er ... print or of using one of them shrink-to-fit or "Print Centered" [with the largest unprintable margin set all around, that is] settings. Sabahat. -- [Sabahat I. Ashraf] Technical Writer / Course Developer Mentor Graphics Corporation. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Cultural Equivalent of the Month: Ballay, ballay, ballaaaaaay! -- Gerrronimooooo! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- work: (908) 604 0880 home: (201) 287 1405 fax: (908) 604 0901 work: sabahat_ashraf@mentorg.com home: ashrafs@juno.com 735 Elm Ave Apt 5B, Teaneck, NJ 07666-2313 http://www.rpi.edu/~ashrafs _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 9-Sep-1998 4:13:05-GMT,2051;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA09842 for ; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 22:12:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA22072; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 22:50:40 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 8 Sep 1998 22:44:09 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA21819; Tue, 8 Sep 1998 22:44:07 -0500 Message-ID: <35F5FA36.CB27B0C4@ix.netcom.com> Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1998 20:47:02 -0700 From: William Belk X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "pdf@lists.pdfzone.com" Subject: [PDF] Embedded TT Fonts Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== I'm using WordPerfect 7.0, printing to Adobe PS 4.2.4 (Win 95) and then distilling. My PS driver is set to "substitute PS fonts for TT fonts according to Substitution Table". However, when printing a file containing Times New Roman, I also end up with this TT font in my PDF file (instead of Times). However, when I print to this same setup from FrameMaker, the Times New Roman IS changed to Times. Question: why am I getting PS fonts sometimes but not all the time? Thanks for any advice, Bill Belk Document Production Manager IT Corporation _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 9-Sep-1998 16:06:57-GMT,3256;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA24748 for ; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 10:06:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA16987; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 10:38:44 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 9 Sep 1998 10:33:13 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA16570; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 10:33:11 -0500 Message-Id: <199809091532.IAA12842@mail-303.corp.Adobe.COM> X-Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated X-Division: Printing & Systems Division X-Department: Technology Analysis Department X-URL: X-Location: San Jose (ISAACS_1) X-Sender: isaacs@mail-303 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.2 X-Priority: 5 (Lowest) Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 08:32:32 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com, William Belk From: Dov Isaacs Subject: Re: [PDF] Embedded TT Fonts In-Reply-To: <35F5FA36.CB27B0C4@ix.netcom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== At 9/8/98 08:47 PM , William Belk wrote: >I'm using WordPerfect 7.0, printing to Adobe PS 4.2.4 (Win 95) and then >distilling. My PS driver is set to "substitute PS fonts for TT fonts >according to Substitution Table". However, when printing a file >containing Times New Roman, I also end up with this TT font in my PDF >file (instead of Times). > >However, when I print to this same setup from FrameMaker, the Times New >Roman IS changed to Times. > >Question: why am I getting PS fonts sometimes but not all the time? I tried a similar experiment, using Corel WordPerfect 8.0. Substitution of printer-resident Times Roman for host-based Times New Roman did properly occur when creating PostScript that is subsequently distilled into PDF. One idea about what "may" be going on. The WordPerfect printing routines have historically tried to outguess the printer drivers, saving and restoring various settings in the data structures passed between the application (i.e., WordPerfect) and the driver (in this case, AdobePS). If at any time, you had the driver set to NOT do that substitution, it is possible that WordPerfect saved that "setting" and restores it temporarily every time you print. Again, I am only guessing about what may be happening based on other peculiar interactions I have personally seen between various versions of WordPerfect and drivers. And also, again, I cannot repeat these symptoms with WordPerfect 8.0. - Dov _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 9-Sep-1998 16:21:21-GMT,2483;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA25094 for ; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 10:21:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA20214; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 11:03:21 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 9 Sep 1998 11:00:37 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA19604; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 11:00:33 -0500 X-Sender: john@mail.icac.org X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.2 Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 12:03:20 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: John Mulligan Subject: [PDF] Auto Crop Multiple Pages? In-Reply-To: <199809091533.KAA16591@everglades.binc.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Message-ID: <1306780088-62775242@icac.org> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== I have a large number of pages to crop to US letter size (8.5" x 11"). Scanned images seem to be larger than the pages scanned by only about .25" or so but I would really like to make all pages a uniform 8.5" x 11". Up to now I have been going through every PDF page doing this manually with the Document | Crop Pages... command but this is tedious! There must be a better way. Does anyone know of a utility that will do this for me? I would like to be able to say that the top left-hand corner of each page/image is the base point & that anything outside of 8.5" x 11" is to be removed. ScanFix ver 4.0 has a feature that will make all images 8.5" x 11" but it will shrink or stretch the image content to fit. I do not want to alter the image, just remove the excess page size. I can work with either the TIF file or the PDF file - just so long as I can get the final output down to 8.5" x 11"! Thanks, John Mulligan john@icac.org _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 9-Sep-1998 16:22:59-GMT,2312;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA25166 for ; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 10:22:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA20792; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 11:10:08 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 9 Sep 1998 11:07:50 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA20596; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 11:07:47 -0500 Message-ID: <35F6A709.DA4498B9@aip.org> Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 12:04:25 -0400 From: Chris Hamlin Organization: AIP X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; I; SunOS 5.6 sun4u) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] CD security solution needed Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Hi, I need a security solution for publishing multiple publications on one CD. It's for a number of different publications on one CD. All should be searchable. Each publication has its own different password, but there is an "all" password that accesses everything. Each time the user starts up Acrobat they have to give a password for each publication (or just the "all" password), but after that it is cached (while Acrobat is running). I think that is basically it. I haven't seen anything out there that does this, and I don't think I have the time to write it myself from scratch (yep, it's a rush). If you know of a product that does this, or something that could be quickly adapted, or ???, please let me know. Direct email is fine. Thanks, Chris Hamlin chamlin@aip.org _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 9-Sep-1998 16:38:53-GMT,2870;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA25529 for ; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 10:38:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA21875; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 11:22:36 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 9 Sep 1998 11:20:08 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA21620; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 11:20:04 -0500 Message-ID: <5497B74AE7DED111A2EC0060977287C429181C@NLFS10> From: Schiff Fred To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Unix command line password setting Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1998 12:19:54 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== I have an application where I need to generate multiple reports every day, and I would like to put passwords on the PDF files generated. We are using the 4GL report generator SQR (from sqribe) on an HP-Unix box to make a postscript files of the reports. Running the ps files through the Unix version of distiller produces the PDF files. Unfortunately, there does not seem to be any command line option to set the passwords on the generated PDF files from distiller. Talking to Unix-Adobe support confirmed that this is the case. They did point us to the Adobe SDK as a possible solution. I find myself very lost. I know that I should be able to produce a reasonable solution, but I simply don't know very much about Postscript or PDF. The SDK had two sample programs which were in the area of my problem: a password plugin and a rot13 password plugin. However, they were both plug-ins for the Exchange product (which we can't use) and I have no clue as to how to make use of them. Ghostscript has a postscript file, pdf_sec.ps, which handles the password situation from the reading point of view for Ghostscript. I need something in the other direction. Or how to make pdfmark set passwords or somethings. Has anybody else done this before? Any assistance would be appreciated. Fred Fred Schiff (fschiff@nlfs.com) 212/354-8800 x250 Nathan & Lewis Securities, Inc. _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 9-Sep-1998 17:26:41-GMT,3513;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA27022 for ; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 11:26:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA24368; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 11:55:59 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 9 Sep 1998 11:53:15 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA24078; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 11:53:13 -0500 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19980909164910.00a48728@marilyn.uochb.cas.cz> X-Sender: valter@marilyn.uochb.cas.cz X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 18:49:10 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Bohumir Valter Subject: Re: [PDF] Auto Crop Multiple Pages? Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Hi John, two years ago a had same problem and Gary Cosimini find excelent solution: Turn on "Distill with Prolog/Epilog files" in Distiller 3.0s Advanced Options and use an Epilogue.ps file like the following: %%EndDocument %%Trailer [ /CropBox [300 300 500 500] /PAGES pdfmark (Executed CropBox epilogue.ps) == flush %%EOF See Distiller's Help file and the PDFmark tech note for details. The above epilogue file, for example, would crop all pages in each PDF file processed to a 200 by 200 point page size from a lower left position of 300 300. Regards Bohumir Valter Document Data Services At 12:03 9.9.1998 -0500, you wrote: > >====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== > >I have a large number of pages to crop to US letter size (8.5" x 11"). >Scanned images seem to be larger than the pages scanned by only about .25" >or so but I would really like to make all pages a uniform 8.5" x 11". > >Up to now I have been going through every PDF page doing this manually with >the Document | Crop Pages... command but this is tedious! There must be a >better way. > >Does anyone know of a utility that will do this for me? I would like to be >able to say that the top left-hand corner of each page/image is the base >point & that anything outside of 8.5" x 11" is to be removed. > >ScanFix ver 4.0 has a feature that will make all images 8.5" x 11" but it >will shrink or stretch the image content to fit. I do not want to alter the >image, just remove the excess page size. > >I can work with either the TIF file or the PDF file - just so long as I can >get the final output down to 8.5" x 11"! > >Thanks, > >John Mulligan >john@icac.org > > >_______________________________________________________ > >-> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- >* http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * >+ Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + >_______________________________________________________ > > > _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 9-Sep-1998 19:29:25-GMT,1642;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA00350 for ; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 13:29:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA00256; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 14:11:51 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 9 Sep 1998 14:08:43 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA00078; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 14:08:42 -0500 From: Karl B Cartwright X-OpenMail-Hops: 1 Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1998 15:04:27 -0400 Message-Id: TO: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== It sounds like you need to do this to pages that are already pdf. If this is the case then I don't know. The method described by Valter will work while you are distilling. If all your pages are in one PDF then you should be able to apply your crop to all pages. Check the crop dialogue box Karl Cartwright _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 9-Sep-1998 21:29:36-GMT,1783;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA03435 for ; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 15:29:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA07683; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 16:09:03 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 9 Sep 1998 16:06:06 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA07521; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 16:06:05 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: KEYCORP From: "Karen L Mibus" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com, morps@deltanet.com Message-ID: <8525667A.00736693.00@keybank.com> Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1998 17:02:58 -0400 Subject: [PDF] Re: Acrobat 3.5? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Hi, Mike: You wrote: >Well, I just went through my notes and the url that they offered seems to >not be correct. I just went through the adobe ftp site and could not find >the 3.5 release. Perhaps someone from Adobe could shed some light here.... >Sarah? >Thanks, >Mike Did you receive any response from Adobe? --Karen _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 9-Sep-1998 23:07:52-GMT,2085;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA05956 for ; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 17:07:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA12925; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 17:49:37 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 9 Sep 1998 17:46:19 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA12758; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 17:46:16 -0500 Subject: Re: [PDF] Unix (scripts to make PDF) In-Reply-To: <508A9C6DF871D111B7E400609737950E05EC53@smtp.newseum.org> from jessica hall at "Sep 9, 98 04:18:52 pm" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 08:17:04 +1000 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL39 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: From: Gregory Tod Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== > Does anyone know of any scripts to make pdfs automatically in UNIX? Well, if Perl fits your definition of script you might like to check out http://www.netspace.net.au/~gtod. Meralie is a freely available Perl library to generate PDF files with a focus on data (hence Perl). Think of it as the ultimate reporting tool for Perl users. It's still a little immature so I haven't ANNOUNCEd it yet but if you know Perl you may find it useful. -- Gregory Tod gtod@netspace.net.au _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 9-Sep-1998 23:41:33-GMT,2929;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA06753 for ; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 17:41:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA14556; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 18:25:12 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 9 Sep 1998 18:22:22 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA14418; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 18:22:20 -0500 From: "David Cornwell" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] RE: Unix Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 00:24:43 +0100 Message-ID: <000f01bddc49$068eff40$0441a8c0@davec.docctrl.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-Reply-To: <508A9C6DF871D111B7E400609737950E05EC53@smtp.newseum.org> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Depending on what you are trying to achieve, it may be possible to use PDFfusion. Check out www.docctrl.com If this seems to be along the right lines, please contact me off list with a more detailed requirements spec. Thanks drc --- David Cornwell, Director - Business Development Computerised Document Control Ltd PO Box 5, Chepstow, Monmouthshire, NP6 6YU, United Kingdom Tel: + 44 (0) 1291 635 403 (direct) ; USA: 1-888-240-1752 Fax: + 44 (0) 1291 623 902 www.docctrl.com Forging the link between Document Systems and Acrobat > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com [mailto:owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com]On > Behalf Of jessica hall > Sent: 09 September 1998 21:19 > To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' > Subject: [PDF] RE: Unix > > > > ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== > > Does anyone know of any scripts to make pdfs automatically in UNIX? > > Thanks, > Jess. > > > > _______________________________________________________ > > -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- > * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * > + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + > _______________________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 10-Sep-1998 2:15:30-GMT,2215;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA10265 for ; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 20:15:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA21260; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 20:59:27 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 9 Sep 1998 20:55:39 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA21029; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 20:55:38 -0500 Message-Id: <199809100155.SAA15042@mail2.deltanet.com> Subject: Re: [PDF] Re: Acrobat 3.5? Date: Wed, 9 Sep 98 19:00:35 -0800 x-sender: morps@mail.deltanet.com x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0, March 15, 1997 From: Mike Morper To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Nope... > >====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== > > >Hi, Mike: >You wrote: > >>Well, I just went through my notes and the url that they offered seems to >>not be correct. I just went through the adobe ftp site and could not find >>the 3.5 release. Perhaps someone from Adobe could shed some light here.... >>Sarah? >>Thanks, >>Mike > >Did you receive any response from Adobe? > >--Karen > > > >_______________________________________________________ > >-> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- >* http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * >+ Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + >_______________________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 10-Sep-1998 8:32:11-GMT,2743;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA18372 for ; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 02:32:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA01730; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 03:08:54 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 10 Sep 1998 03:03:31 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA01549; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 03:03:29 -0500 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19980910075927.00a98e88@marilyn.uochb.cas.cz> X-Sender: valter@marilyn.uochb.cas.cz X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 09:59:27 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Bohumir Valter Subject: Re: [PDF] Auto Crop Multiple Pages? Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== At 15:04 9.9.1998 -0400, you wrote: > >====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== > >It sounds like you need to do this to pages that are already pdf. If >this is the case then I don't know. The method described by Valter will >work while you are distilling. > >Karl Cartwright Karl, You can use cropping technique also in the case you have already pdf. It is only one more step before cropping: 1. PDF --> PS (printing to the file) than 2. PS --> PDF (distilling and use Epilogue.ps) Regards, Bohumir Valter Document Data Services >>Hi John, >>two years ago a had same problem and Gary Cosimini >>find excelent solution: >>Turn on "Distill with Prolog/Epilog files" in Distiller 3.0s Advanced >>Options and use an Epilogue.ps file like the following: >> %%EndDocument >> %%Trailer >> [ /CropBox [300 300 500 500] /PAGES pdfmark >> (Executed CropBox epilogue.ps) == flush >> %%EOF >>See Distiller's Help file and the PDFmark tech note for details. The above >>epilogue file, for example, would crop all pages in each PDF file processed >>to a 200 by 200 point page size from a lower left position of 300 300. >>Regards >>Bohumir Valter >>Document Data Services _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 10-Sep-1998 13:20:27-GMT,2268;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA23602 for ; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 07:20:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA12170; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 07:58:29 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 10 Sep 1998 07:54:53 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA11933; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 07:54:50 -0500 Message-Id: <199809101254.IAA11658@dax.cc.uakron.edu> From: "D. P. Story" Organization: The University of Akron To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 08:51:36 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: [PDF] ANNOUNCE: PDF Article X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01b) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Entitled: Using LaTeX to Create Quality PDF Documents for the WWW The title is long enough to be the abstract. The article is written from the point of view of a newbie or novice in the world of LaTeX and/or PDF. The article can be accessed through my AcroTeX site: http://www.math.uakron.edu/~dpstory/acrotex.html Hope someone out there finds it useful. Enjoy! dps Dr. D. P. Story dpstory@uakron.edu http://www.math.uakron.edu/~dpstory/ Dept of Mathematics and Computer Science / University of Akron / Akron, Ohio 44325 e-Calculus: http://www.math.uakron.edu/~dpstory/e-calculus.html Algebra Review:http://www.math.uakron.edu/~dpstory/mpt_home.html Pdfmarks:Links & Forms:http://www.math.uakroh.edu/~dpstory/lnk_forms.html _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 1-Sep-1998 19:53:08-GMT,2629;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA09999 for ; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 13:53:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA17157; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 14:37:10 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 1 Sep 1998 14:35:45 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA17022; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 14:35:44 -0500 Message-Id: From: Myranda Hughes To: "'PDF-L@emrg.com'" , "'framers@listerv.workingtogether.com'" Subject: [PDF] Font problems is Adobe Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1998 14:33:53 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== We made the change from Adobe PageMaker to Adobe FrameMaker several months ago in our documentation area. We have begun experiencing problems with our fonts when FrameMaker documents are converted to PDF documents. The strange thing is, however, that not all of us are having the problem. When we distill the files, no errors are encountered and the file distills. When you view the PDF file, however, it looks jagged and the screen captures are blurred. These same documents when printed looks absolutely normal at the printer we use, but others at different locations have been experiencing printing problems. The problem also appears when users try to cut and paste out of the PDF document into an application such as Word. The result is a bunch of garbage on the screen. Another person in our group can distill the exact same file and get a perfectly normal PDF document. We are stumped to say the least and would appreciate any experience any of you may have with this situation. Myranda Hughes Ontario Systems Corporation myrandah@ontario.com _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 2-Sep-1998 1:20:44-GMT,2923;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA18586 for ; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 19:20:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA01982; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 20:01:38 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 1 Sep 1998 20:00:11 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA01871; Tue, 1 Sep 1998 20:00:07 -0500 Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1998 18:00:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Mornini Message-Id: <199809020100.SAA22758@sun630mp.infomania.com> To: pdf-l@emrg.com, tmornini@sun630mp.infomania.com Subject: [PDF] ANNOUNCE - PDF in Prepress mailing list! Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== I am pleased to announce pdf-prepress-l. Earlier there were several messages on pdf-l indicating that people would prefer a separate mailing list for PDF use in prepress. I suggested that I could help, or perhaps run myself, a list for PDF use in high-end prepress environments. Response was very positive, so I decided to put back on my list manager hat, and set up a new list. The name of the list is pdf-prepress-l and it is located at InfoMania Printing and Prepress, a PostScript prepress house in Sacramento, CA. It is handled on a Sun server system, with the latest version of the free mailing list manager, Majordomo. To subscribe to the list, send e-mail to: In the body of the message, enter the text: subscribe pdf-prepress-l or subscribe pdf-prepress-d The second entry will get you a digested version of the list, which sends out a message once 200 lines of pdf-prepress-l accumulate. The list is setup to keep archives. I will put up a web interface to the archives later, but in the meantime they can be accessed as described in the Majordomo help file, which can be mailed to you by sending e-mail to: In the body of the message, enter the text: help and you will get a file describing all you need to know as a member of pdf-prepress-l and/or pdf-prepress-d. Thank you. I will send this announcement to pdf-l once a week to let newcomers know of this development. -- Tom Mornini -- InfoMania _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 2-Sep-1998 9:20:50-GMT,1931;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA26909 for ; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 03:20:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA23561; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 03:51:00 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 2 Sep 1998 03:47:10 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA23357; Wed, 2 Sep 1998 03:47:06 -0500 From: baruch@mercury.co.il X-Lotus-Fromdomain: MERCURY_IL To: PDF-L@emrg.com Message-Id: <42256673.0034E80A.00@lotus-notes> Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1998 11:46:22 +0200 Subject: [PDF] How do I create transparent buttons? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== I recently inserted a button into a pdf file using the form tool. As the icon for the button, I used an arrow from the Exchange clip art collection. The button looks great! Better still, the "white areas" around the arrow are transparent - any graphic or text behind the white part of the arrow show up through the arrow. How do I create a transparent effect when I create my own button icons? Thanks in Advance Baruch Benatar _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 3-Sep-1998 15:22:36-GMT,1973;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA27696 for ; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 09:22:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA19537; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 09:56:28 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 3 Sep 1998 09:46:18 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA18982; Thu, 3 Sep 1998 09:46:17 -0500 Message-ID: <35EEACF7.C2C0ACAA@trw.com> Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 08:51:36 -0600 From: Tom Mandera Organization: TRW X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf-digest@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Single Install for PDF Viewer and Forms Plugin Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Is there an installation package available that includes Acrobat 3.01 *and* the Acrobat Forms Plugin? Is there a facility to allow customized Acrobat Installers, to accomplish this on my own? Apparently there are users that are having a difficult time downloading (it seems the Adobe FTP server is overloaded an awful lot) the two components, and then installing them. Our client would like a single installer to make the process more "fool-proof" _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 10-Sep-1998 15:21:44-GMT,2210;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA26892 for ; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 09:21:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA18474; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 09:58:24 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 10 Sep 1998 09:55:07 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA18230; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 09:55:03 -0500 Message-ID: From: Craig Lee To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Hyperlinking to within PDF Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 10:54:50 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== This is probably an FAQ or ought to be. I seem to remember it being discussed sometime in the past couple of years. I've been derelict in keeping up with the list so I don't remember. My question: Is it possible to hyperlink (with an URL) to an anchor in a PDF file? In other words, can I make a URL of the format: http://www.myserver.com/document.pdf#sec1 and have it jump to Section 1 of said PDF like we do with anchors in HTML files. I'm trying here prevent having to convert a bunch of PDFs to HTML docs just so we can hyperlink into them from our knowledge-base application. Thanks for any pointers. Craig Lee (craig@barrsys.com) Webmaster Barr Systems, Inc. _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 10-Sep-1998 15:51:40-GMT,1841;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA27786 for ; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 09:51:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA20512; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 10:32:07 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 10 Sep 1998 10:31:06 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA20436; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 10:31:04 -0500 Message-ID: From: Terry Knee To: "'PDF Discussion List'" Subject: [PDF] Excel to FDF Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 11:25:18 -0400 Organization: Denharco X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Hello Is it possible to create a FDF file from an excel file? I would then like to search the fdf file for a value that the user enters in a form field to be able to populate the remaining fields in the form. thank you Terry Knee Supervisor, Technical Publications Denharco inc. _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 10-Sep-1998 21:37:22-GMT,2889;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA07632 for ; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 15:37:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA06582; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 16:17:15 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 10 Sep 1998 16:12:46 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA06284; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 16:12:43 -0500 Message-ID: <004001bddcfe$66be66c0$1f40dec2@nplum.demon.co.uk> From: "Nic Plum" To: Cc: Subject: [PDF] Link to an Anchor Within An Acrobat Doc Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 22:02:01 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Yes, it is possible to have a link to an anchor within an Acrobat document! If I remember this properly, and you are using Netscape 3 or 4 as a browser try the following link as a practical demonstration:- www.nplum.demon.co.uk/temptin/1pager.pdf#SPECIFICATION$$1 IE 3, 4 can't cope with the anchor name ("named destination" in Acrobat parlance) and simply return a "can't find the file" type of error. To do this you do have to be able to create the named destinations in the first place and know what these are to use them in your web page. In my case I get MS Word to do this. I think that there are other "scripts" that create destinations for each page - I create one for each document object such as headings, figures, tables, equations etc. Cheers. Nic. _____________________________________________________________________ Buckden, < www.nplum.demon.co.uk/temptin/ > Huntingdon, For information management and Cambs, Adobe Acrobat integration from UK. within your favourite PE18 9SZ wordprocessor _____________________________________________________________________ _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 10-Sep-1998 21:40:32-GMT,2297;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA07717 for ; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 15:40:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA07438; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 16:29:38 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 10 Sep 1998 16:26:04 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA07119; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 16:26:02 -0500 Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 14:25:48 -0700 X-Sender: gcosimin@mail-345 (Unverified) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <8525667A.00736693.00@keybank.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Gary Cosimini Subject: Re: [PDF] Re: Acrobat 3.5? Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== I can't find the original question in this thread, but here's a shot at the answer! Acrobat 3.5 refers to the updated Forms plug-in which is a free upgrade and is downloadable from www.adobe.com. Go to the Downloadable Files page: http://www.adobe.com/supportservice/custsupport/download.html and click on Acrobat Exchange, Mac or Windows. Gary Cosimini Adobe Systems >====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== > > >Hi, Mike: >You wrote: > >>Well, I just went through my notes and the url that they offered seems to >>not be correct. I just went through the adobe ftp site and could not find >>the 3.5 release. Perhaps someone from Adobe could shed some light here.... >>Sarah? >>Thanks, >>Mike > >Did you receive any response from Adobe? > >--Karen > _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 10-Sep-1998 21:41:49-GMT,3517;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA07760 for ; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 15:41:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA07333; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 16:28:28 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 10 Sep 1998 16:24:07 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA06993; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 16:24:04 -0500 Message-ID: <004001bddcfe$66be66c0$1f40dec2@nplum.demon.co.uk> From: "Nic Plum" Old-To: Cc: Subject: [PDF] Link to an Anchor Within An Acrobat Doc Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 22:02:01 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com X-Loop: forwarded by miller@performancegraphics.com To: millercs@earthlink.net Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Yes, it is possible to have a link to an anchor within an Acrobat document! If I remember this properly, and you are using Netscape 3 or 4 as a browser try the following link as a practical demonstration:- www.nplum.demon.co.uk/temptin/1pager.pdf#SPECIFICATION$$1 IE 3, 4 can't cope with the anchor name ("named destination" in Acrobat parlance) and simply return a "can't find the file" type of error. To do this you do have to be able to create the named destinations in the first place and know what these are to use them in your web page. In my case I get MS Word to do this. I think that there are other "scripts" that create destinations for each page - I create one for each document object such as headings, figures, tables, equations etc. Cheers. Nic. _____________________________________________________________________ Buckden, < www.nplum.demon.co.uk/temptin/ > Huntingdon, For information management and Cambs, Adobe Acrobat integration from UK. within your favourite PE18 9SZ wordprocessor _____________________________________________________________________ _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 11-Sep-1998 0:48:18-GMT,1875;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA12501 for ; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 18:48:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA15943; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 19:26:41 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 10 Sep 1998 19:23:27 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA15765; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 19:23:25 -0500 Message-ID: <35F86FB1.934EC77B@earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 19:32:54 -0500 From: Scottie X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Acrobat fields won't print References: <199809100155.SAA15042@mail2.deltanet.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== I've design a pdf document with several fields. The fields won't print. Has anyone out there has had this problem and what was your solution. I've use helvetica and times fonts. Iam using the latest version of Exchange and an HP 890C DeskJet. Your answers are appreciated. Scottie _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 11-Sep-1998 1:01:25-GMT,3053;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA12807 for ; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 19:01:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA17118; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 19:49:07 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 10 Sep 1998 19:46:25 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA16996; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 19:46:23 -0500 Message-ID: <35F8728A.DCFF8352@psnw.com> Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 17:44:59 -0700 From: Lynda Schrumpf Organization: P&L Marketing X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] CD security solution needed References: <35F6A709.DA4498B9@aip.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Chris, We purchased FileOpen 2.11 and it works great. We publish a searchabe catalog index with about 2500 pdf's on one CD. Check it out http://www.fileopen.com, the President Sanfond Bingham is great to work with. Lynda Schrumpf Pacific Publishing P&L Marketing Chris Hamlin wrote: > ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== > > Hi, > > I need a security solution for publishing multiple publications > on one CD. > > It's for a number of different publications on one CD. All > should be searchable. Each publication has its own different > password, but there is an "all" password that accesses everything. > Each time the user starts up Acrobat they have to give a > password for each publication (or just the "all" password), > but after that it is cached (while Acrobat is running). > > I think that is basically it. I haven't seen anything out > there that does this, and I don't think I have the time to > write it myself from scratch (yep, it's a rush). > > If you know of a product that does this, or something that > could be quickly adapted, or ???, please let me know. Direct > email is fine. > > Thanks, > > Chris Hamlin > chamlin@aip.org > > _______________________________________________________ > > -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- > * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * > + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + > _______________________________________________________ _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 11-Sep-1998 2:45:37-GMT,4223;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA15073 for ; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 20:45:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA21888; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 21:28:32 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 10 Sep 1998 21:25:51 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA21770; Thu, 10 Sep 1998 21:25:49 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Message-Id: Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 21:27:38 -0500 To: PDF@lists.pdfzone.com From: Kurt Foss Subject: [PDF] Starr v Clinton: HTML or PDF? Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Looks like the "HTML or PDF" debate has reached the big time, according to an online story at CNN.com about Friday's expected release of the 455-page Starr Report. (In case you've been doing time travel much of the year, it's expected to spell out a number of impeachable offenses reportedly committed by President Clinton). The article quotes one of the techies, whose job it will be to prepare a version for Net distribution as soon as the House votes tomorrow, on the question of which format to use (as if they must choose only one, for some reason): _____ - from: http://www.cnn.com/TECH/computing/9809/10/starrbandwidth.idg/ But first Hammersla has to figure out how to make the document Web-ready. Because she has not received a copy -- it is under lock and key by the House Sergeant at Arms -- she doesn't know whether it is in electronic form or on paper. "Obviously if it's in electronic form, we can just put it in HTML and throw it up there," she said. If not, then Hammersla said the document will have to be scanned and put into Portable Document Format (PDF). She said her system is able to scan 30 pages per minute so that will not take too long, but trying to set it up online will be more difficult. "It's hard to know the size of the document or if there's a logical break so that we can offer it in parts," she said. However large each part of the document is, Hammersla admitted that serving up PDF files would weigh on the servers. _____ Personally, I'd be considerably less inclined to read such a massive document page by page on screen, especially if I couldn't search the entire document at once. And if the keepers of the doc think the majority of people would rather read a printed version, is there *really* any doubt which would be the better format? (Obviously, the best solution would be both.) Whad'ya all think -- not about the allegations in the report, but about how such materials should be made available to the public. Clearly PDF isn't always preferable to HTML (or vice versa), but this appears to be a situation where after honestly comparing the strengths of each, the verdict leans toward PDF. And IF so, pdf viewer download sites had best prepare for a major traffic attack! rgds ~ Kurt ---> T h e P D F z o n e <--- "Your Online Hub to All Things PDF" Kurt Foss Internet Communications Mgr 579 D'Onofrio Dr. (608)829-0183 Suite 104 EMAIL: mailto:kfoss@pdfzone.com Madison, WI 53719 WWW: http://www.pdfzone.com/ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - "Make haste slowly." - CAESAR AUGUSTUS, quoted by Suetonius in Lives of the Caesars - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 11-Sep-1998 6:06:25-GMT,2755;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA19500 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 00:06:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA29684; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 00:52:57 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 11 Sep 1998 00:51:34 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA29610; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 00:51:32 -0500 X-Sender: prodok@pop.eunet.ch Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <35F86FB1.934EC77B@earthlink.net> References: <199809100155.SAA15042@mail2.deltanet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 07:37:47 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Max Wyss Subject: Re: [PDF] Acrobat fields won't print Cc: Scottie Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Scottie, There are several possibilities why your fields (watch the plural) don't print. It could be that they are not set to be "printable". It could be that their foreground and background colors are not set properly. It could be that some options in your printer driver are not properly set. If it is one single field which does not print (the one you have just entered data into), you have found a feature of Acrobat fields. In order for a field to "take" the entered data, it must be left, either by clicking outside of it or by pressing the Tab or Enter or Return key. Hope, this can help. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering AG Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch WWW: http://www.prodok.ch/prodok Bridging the Knowledge Gap ______________________ >I've design a pdf document with several fields. The fields won't >print. Has anyone out there has had this problem and what was your >solution. I've use helvetica and times fonts. Iam using the latest >version of Exchange and an HP 890C DeskJet. > >Your answers are appreciated. > >Scottie _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 11-Sep-1998 12:37:18-GMT,5339;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA26718 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 06:37:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA09076; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 07:13:45 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 11 Sep 1998 07:08:19 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA08809; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 07:08:17 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Czajka, Mark" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Starr v Clinton: HTML or PDF? Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 08:10:57 -0400 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Do you think in this day and age that this report was not handed to Congress in electronic form? It's probably already in Word or PDF. Most people would prefer PDF, because they will be able to print it out and tak it home to read tonight, after spending their day staring at a computer. > -----Original Message----- > From: Kurt Foss [SMTP:kfoss@pdfzone.com] > Sent: Thursday, September 10, 1998 10:28 PM > To: PDF@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: [PDF] Starr v Clinton: HTML or PDF? > > > ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== > > Looks like the "HTML or PDF" debate has reached the big time, > according to > an online story at CNN.com about Friday's expected release of the > 455-page > Starr Report. (In case you've been doing time travel much of the year, > it's > expected to spell out a number of impeachable offenses reportedly > committed > by President Clinton). > > The article quotes one of the techies, whose job it will be to prepare > a > version for Net distribution as soon as the House votes tomorrow, on > the > question of which format to use (as if they must choose only one, for > some > reason): > > _____ > > - from: http://www.cnn.com/TECH/computing/9809/10/starrbandwidth.idg/ > > But first Hammersla has to figure out how to make the document > Web-ready. > Because she has not received a copy -- it is under lock and key by the > House Sergeant at Arms -- she doesn't know whether it is in electronic > form > or on paper. "Obviously if it's in electronic form, we can just put it > in > HTML and throw it up there," she said. If not, then Hammersla said the > document will have to be scanned and put into Portable Document Format > (PDF). She said her system is able to scan 30 pages per minute so that > will > not take too long, but trying to set it up online will be more > difficult. > > "It's hard to know the size of the document or if there's a logical > break > so that we can offer it in parts," she said. > > However large each part of the document is, Hammersla admitted that > serving > up PDF files would weigh on the servers. > _____ > > Personally, I'd be considerably less inclined to read such a massive > document page by page on screen, especially if I couldn't search the > entire > document at once. And if the keepers of the doc think the majority of > people would rather read a printed version, is there *really* any > doubt > which would be the better format? (Obviously, the best solution would > be > both.) > > Whad'ya all think -- not about the allegations in the report, but > about how > such materials should be made available to the public. Clearly PDF > isn't > always preferable to HTML (or vice versa), but this appears to be a > situation where after honestly comparing the strengths of each, the > verdict > leans toward PDF. > > And IF so, pdf viewer download sites had best prepare for a major > traffic > attack! > > rgds ~ Kurt > ---> T h e P D F z o n e <--- > "Your Online Hub to All Things PDF" > > Kurt Foss Internet Communications Mgr > 579 D'Onofrio Dr. (608)829-0183 > Suite 104 EMAIL: mailto:kfoss@pdfzone.com > Madison, WI 53719 WWW: http://www.pdfzone.com/ > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > "Make haste slowly." - CAESAR AUGUSTUS, > quoted by Suetonius in Lives of the Caesars > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > > _______________________________________________________ > > -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- > * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * > + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + > _______________________________________________________ > _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 11-Sep-1998 13:14:08-GMT,1856;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA27392 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 07:14:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA11181; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 07:58:29 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 11 Sep 1998 07:57:16 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA11100; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 07:57:14 -0500 Message-ID: <003601bddd83$8dd14b80$350d9fcf@default> From: "Jim and Marguerite Ripley" To: Subject: [PDF] PDF PAGE NUMBERING Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 05:55:39 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2120.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2120.0 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== I am scanning several hundred pages which must be image+hidden text. The result is being broken into files of manageable size. Is there a way to match page numbering in Reader/Exchange with the page number of the documents which have been scanned? _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 11-Sep-1998 14:28:42-GMT,3339;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA28964 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 08:28:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA15564; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 09:14:32 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 11 Sep 1998 09:12:00 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA15428; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 09:11:58 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: KEYCORP From: "Karen L Mibus" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <8525667C.004CF466.00@keybank.com> Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 10:07:21 -0400 Subject: Re: [PDF] Re: Acrobat 3.5? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Gary Cosimini: Someone mentioned that Adobe announced an upcoming release of a new version of the Reader with the forms plug-in and other fixes included. I guess the person thought the new version will be called Reader 3.5. Is Adobe planning to provide a new version of the Reader? Many of us would appreciate it because, at present, users of the Reader need to install the Active X fix, the PCL printer fix, and Forms Fillin 3.5. Most of our clients are not computer savvy and resent having to download and install so many files. --Karen gcosimin@adobe.com on 09/10/98 05:25:48 PM Please respond to pdf@lists.pdfzone.com To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com cc: (bcc: Karen L Mibus/NE/KSC/KeyCorp) Subject: Re: [PDF] Re: Acrobat 3.5? ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== I can't find the original question in this thread, but here's a shot at the answer! Acrobat 3.5 refers to the updated Forms plug-in which is a free upgrade and is downloadable from www.adobe.com. Go to the Downloadable Files page: http://www.adobe.com/supportservice/custsupport/download.html and click on Acrobat Exchange, Mac or Windows. Gary Cosimini Adobe Systems >====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== > > >Hi, Mike: >You wrote: > >>Well, I just went through my notes and the url that they offered seems to >>not be correct. I just went through the adobe ftp site and could not find >>the 3.5 release. Perhaps someone from Adobe could shed some light here.... >>Sarah? >>Thanks, >>Mike > >Did you receive any response from Adobe? > >--Karen > _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 11-Sep-1998 14:28:57-GMT,1924;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA28969 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 08:28:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA15326; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 09:10:17 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 11 Sep 1998 09:07:37 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA15114; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 09:07:34 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] PDF PAGE NUMBERING Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 14:55:56 +0100 Message-ID: <002901bddd8d$50a28f80$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <003601bddd83$8dd14b80$350d9fcf@default> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== > > Is there a way to match page numbering in Reader/Exchange > with the page > number of the documents which have been scanned? > > If you mean the numbers beneath thumbnails and shown in the status line, the answer is no. Aandi _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 11-Sep-1998 14:41:44-GMT,2091;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA29262 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 08:41:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA16405; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 09:25:53 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 11 Sep 1998 09:23:31 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA16198; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 09:23:30 -0500 Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 10:23:09 -0400 (EDT) From: Alex Lindgren To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Printing in background from Internet Explorer Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Hello, Does anyone know if there is anyway to have Internet Explorer print a PDF file in the background. My situation is this: I am developing a touchscreen kiosk which will use IE 4.0 for the interface. I have some handouts that I want the user to beable to printout. Ideally, I'd like a system that would allow the user to simply press a link and have the pdf file printed in the background. Does anyone know if and how this is possible? Remember, I am working with a closed system that I, unlike regular web sites, have total control over the users system. Any suggestions would be highly appreciated!! -Alex _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 11-Sep-1998 18:50:57-GMT,2560;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA07533 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 12:50:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA29192; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 13:24:59 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 11 Sep 1998 13:23:01 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA29063; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 13:22:59 -0500 X-ROUTED: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 14:23:58 -0500 Message-ID: <35F96A7A.5579E667@eisolutions.com> Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 14:22:50 -0400 From: Michael Stearne Organization: EIS, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5b1 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "pdf@lists.pdfzone.com" Subject: [PDF] Offtopic: PDF Employment Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Our company is seeking a proficient PS, PDF, or PERL programmer that is interested in contract work. The project involves generating PDFs on the fly that are presented for download instantly. As it stands user will fill out a form asking questions (name,etc.) and those results will be inserted into an html template, that will be used for reviewing and also for page layout qualities. From that point the html will be converted to PostScipt an then Distilled into PDF. If you think you could be of help on this or other web development projects please contact us, EffectiV Internet Solutions (http://EISolutions.com). Please fill out our HR form located at http://EISolutions.com/ei/html-ei/employer.htm to let us know more about you. Thank you, Michael Stearne EffectiV Internet Solutions mstearne@eisolutions.com _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 11-Sep-1998 19:10:34-GMT,2182;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA08147 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 13:10:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA31105; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 13:58:14 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 11 Sep 1998 13:57:16 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA31054; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 13:57:14 -0500 Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 11:56:59 -0700 X-Sender: gcosimin@mail-345 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Gary Cosimini Subject: RE: [PDF] Starr v Clinton: HTML or PDF? Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== >====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== > >Do you think in this day and age that this report was not handed to >Congress in electronic form? It's probably already in Word or PDF. Most >people would prefer PDF, because they will be able to print it out and >tak it home to read tonight, after spending their day staring at a >computer. FYI: I have heard the original was in WordPerfect! -------------------------- Gary Cosimini Business Development Manager Adobe Systems Incorporated 780 Third Avenue, 41st Floor New York, NY 10017 Reception (212) 446-3800 Fax (212) 446-3802 Email gcosimin@adobe.com _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 11-Sep-1998 22:04:55-GMT,2564;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA13062 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 16:04:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA05746; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 16:20:53 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 11 Sep 1998 16:14:43 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA05446; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 16:14:41 -0500 X-Sender: john@mail.icac.org X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.2 Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 17:17:34 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: John Mulligan Subject: Re: [PDF] Auto Crop Multiple Pages? In-Reply-To: <199809102112.QAA06301@everglades.binc.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Message-ID: <1306588440-74302467@icac.org> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Bohumir: Your suggestion worked just great - it even reduced a 14MB file down to 7.2MB. I have no idea why printing a PDF to PS & then distilling it back to PDF would do that but it looks great! The exact settings for my Epilogue.ps are as follows: %%EndDocument %%Trailer [ /CropBox [0 0 612 792] /PAGES pdfmark (Executed CropBox epilogue.ps) == flush %%EOF This used the top left corner of the page as a reference point & made all pages of the PDF file 8.5" x 11" (612 x 792 points). Thanks again! John Mulligan john@icac.org >>It sounds like you need to do this to pages that are already pdf. If >>this is the case then I don't know. The method described by Valter will >>work while you are distilling. >> >>Karl Cartwright > >Karl, >You can use cropping technique also in the case you have already pdf. >It is only one more step before cropping: >1. PDF --> PS (printing to the file) >than >2. PS --> PDF (distilling and use Epilogue.ps) > >Regards, >Bohumir Valter >Document Data Services _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 11-Sep-1998 22:52:27-GMT,2428;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA14241 for ; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 16:52:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA08689; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 17:27:46 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 11 Sep 1998 17:26:13 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA08593; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 17:26:11 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: kfoss@mailbag.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 17:24:33 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Kurt Foss Subject: [PDF] Starr v Clinton II - report now up in PDF! Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== >Do you think in this day and age that this report was not handed to >Congress in electronic form? It's probably already in Word or PDF. Most >people would prefer PDF, because they will be able to print it out and >tak it home to read tonight, after spending their day staring at a >computer. Not sure if *most* people would prefer PDF, but most definitely some who understand the strengths of the format will. As so far we've only seen the Independent Counsel's report available in HTML, we've uploaded an 89-page, 189 kb version in PDF in PDFzone.COM. Follow the link from the home page ---> http://www.pdfzone.com/ And while you're there, download two other PDFs -- press releases on the acquisition of Emerge by IKON Office Solutions, and on the spinoff of the web site as an independent entity -- known as PDFzone.COM. More in the upcoming (but delayed) issue of EXTRA. rgds ~ Kurt === _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 13-Sep-1998 2:27:28-GMT,2692;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA16074 for ; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 20:27:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA01302; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 21:07:31 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 12 Sep 1998 20:59:32 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA00804; Sat, 12 Sep 1998 20:59:29 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: kfoss@pdfzone.com Message-Id: Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 21:01:25 -0500 To: From: nic@nplum.demon.co.uk Subject: [PDF] PDFMark for GoToR ? Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== I'm obviously a complete duffer. Yes I do have the pdfmark specification et al from Adobe and all I want to do is create a link to another local file. It looks to me as though I need the GoToR action, but I'm either missing an element or not got this in the right order. It isn't illegal on distilling so much as it throws an error in the Reader. Can some kind soul put me right? I can't see an example that does what I want and am fed up with the empirical approach. [ /Rect [ 133 562.9 299 574.9 ] /Border [0 0 0 ] /SrcPg 1 /Action /GoToR /File ( accrt1.pdf ) /Page 1 /Color [ ] /Subtype /Link /ANN pdfmark The spec also provides for a URI key; - where would this fit in and - if it is present would it always force the web browser to fire up? Thanks. Nic. _____________________________________________________________________ Buckden, < www.nplum.demon.co.uk/temptin/ > Huntingdon, For information management and Cambs, Adobe Acrobat integration from UK. within your favourite PE18 9SZ wordprocessor _____________________________________________________________________ _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 13-Sep-1998 19:15:50-GMT,3049;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA04150 for ; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 13:15:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA02348; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 13:54:52 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 13 Sep 1998 13:52:49 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA02205; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 13:52:47 -0500 From: Luskin@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 14:52:25 EDT To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: [PDF] problem: acrobat not able to print a pdf file. Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Mac sub 84 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== I am using acrobat 3.0.1 on a Macintosh G3 running OS 8.0. The system is stable. I have a Macintosh personal laser printer NT attached. I am trying to print an acrobat 3.0.1 document, last modified October 18, 1995. When I issue the print command, through acrobat, a message appears that eight pages are being spooled, and that it is trying to print. So far, so good. Then I get a message to the effect that it failed to print, see the finder for details. When I click the finder, I am told there was a postscript error. That is all. What could be wrong? What should I do? I am not comfortable with acrobat. It is used for documentation on a number of packages I have bought, and I find it difficult to work with. For one thing, the font size and/or shape is difficult (for me to read. I don't know if this is a problem for everyone, or just me. And the captions and explanations in the pictures are also too small. When I use the general option to change the smoothing?, the readability is marginally, only marginally, improved, but the preference is not saved. Is there a way to copy a pdf file into something more user friendly? I would love to copy pdf files into simpletext, but the pictures would be lost. What is the advantage of pdf? I suspect it is used for medium sales volume software that runs on many platforms, and is a common standard. But what else is good about it? If I had to, I could come up with a dozen things I dislike. If anyone is interested, say from Adobe, I could invest an hour and do so. Thank you. Michael B. Luskin _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 13-Sep-1998 19:26:28-GMT,1739;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA04394 for ; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 13:26:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA02502; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 13:56:35 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 13 Sep 1998 13:55:46 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA02434; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 13:55:45 -0500 From: Luskin@aol.com Message-ID: <9a77bcb5.35fc1523@aol.com> Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 14:55:31 EDT To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: [PDF] 68K version of acrobat? Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Mac sub 84 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== I cannot run acrobat on my power book 180. Running OS 7.1, and have ram doubler installed. And nothing else. What could be the problem? Is there a 68K specific version of the software? But, come to think of it, I am running successfully on a LC III and a Mac IIvx. Michael B. Luskin _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 13-Sep-1998 19:52:00-GMT,4514;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA04834 for ; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 13:51:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA04219; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 14:39:35 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 13 Sep 1998 14:38:40 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA04163; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 14:38:39 -0500 X-Sender: prodok@pop.eunet.ch Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 21:37:22 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Max Wyss Subject: Re: [PDF] problem: acrobat not able to print a pdf file. Cc: Luskin@aol.com Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Michael, The PostScript error is a known feature of Acrobat Reader and the LaserWriter 8.5.1 printer driver, printing to a Level 1 PostScript printer. There is a fix on the net; unfortunately, I don't have the URL at hand right now, but I guess someone will come up with it. Otherwise, you could go to Adobe's User to User Forum, Acrobat sections and look through the archives; I originally found the link there. This fix does work for me, printing to a LaserWriter IINT. Look closely to the left bottom of your Acrobat Reader window. You will see there a number followed by a percent sign. Click on this, and you get a menu where you can select the display scale. Set it to - let's say - 150% or 200%. Then you should no longer have the viewing problem. You set the initial opening preference in the General Preferences (Menu Edit > Preferences > General). You also can set the screen size to a smaller size, which will make an individual pixel bigger. This automatically increases the readability of your documents (I know that effect, running a 17" monitor like a 21" screen). Hope, this can help. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering AG Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch WWW: http://www.prodok.ch/prodok Bridging the Knowledge Gap ______________________ >I am using acrobat 3.0.1 on a Macintosh G3 running OS 8.0. The system is >stable. I have a Macintosh personal laser printer NT attached. I am trying >to print an acrobat 3.0.1 document, last modified October 18, 1995. > >When I issue the print command, through acrobat, a message appears that eight >pages are being spooled, and that it is trying to print. So far, so good. >Then I get a message to the effect that it failed to print, see the finder for >details. When I click the finder, I am told there was a postscript error. >That is all. > >What could be wrong? What should I do? > >I am not comfortable with acrobat. It is used for documentation on a number >of packages I have bought, and I find it difficult to work with. For one >thing, the font size and/or shape is difficult (for me to read. I don't know >if this is a problem for everyone, or just me. And the captions and >explanations in the pictures are also too small. When I use the general >option to change the smoothing?, the readability is marginally, only >marginally, improved, but the preference is not saved. Is there a way to copy >a pdf file into something more user friendly? I would love to copy pdf files >into simpletext, but the pictures would be lost. > >What is the advantage of pdf? I suspect it is used for medium sales volume >software that runs on many platforms, and is a common standard. But what else >is good about it? If I had to, I could come up with a dozen things I dislike. >If anyone is interested, say from Adobe, I could invest an hour and do so. > >Thank you. > >Michael B. Luskin _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 13-Sep-1998 21:33:51-GMT,3624;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA06784 for ; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 15:33:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA07872; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 16:13:50 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 13 Sep 1998 16:12:28 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA07814; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 16:12:27 -0500 Message-Id: <199809132112.OAA03868@mail-303.corp.Adobe.COM> X-Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated X-Division: Printing & Systems Division X-Department: Technology Analysis Department X-URL: X-Location: Remote (ISAACS_REMOTE) X-Sender: isaacs@mail-303 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.2 Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 14:11:31 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com, Luskin@aol.com From: Dov Isaacs Subject: Re: [PDF] problem: acrobat not able to print a pdf file. In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== At 9/13/98 11:52 AM , Luskin@aol.com wrote: > >====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== > >I am using acrobat 3.0.1 on a Macintosh G3 running OS 8.0. The system is >stable. I have a Macintosh personal laser printer NT attached. I am trying >to print an acrobat 3.0.1 document, last modified October 18, 1995. > >When I issue the print command, through acrobat, a message appears that eight >pages are being spooled, and that it is trying to print. So far, so good. >Then I get a message to the effect that it failed to print, see the finder for >details. When I click the finder, I am told there was a postscript error. >That is all. > >What could be wrong? What should I do? I'll tackle the first issue! The Apple Personal LaserWriter NT has a software bug in it that prevents it from printing any document that has a "Multiple Master" Type 1 font in it. Surprisingly enough, the "faux fonting" capability of Acrobat, i.e., its ability to synthesize serif or sans serif typefaces to match the widths of fonts that are either not in your system or not embedded in the PDF document, depends entirely on use of Multiple Master fonts, the "Adobe Sans" and "Adobe Serif" fonts installed as part of installation of Acrobat or the "free" Acrobat Reader. Apple was offered a fix from Adobe many years ago for this printer. Apple chose not to distribute the fix, but did offer a discount on upgrading the Personal LaserWriter NT to a Personal LaserWriter NTR. Both printers shared the same laser engine, but used a radically different controller board. The NTR also used Adobe PostScript Level 2 - the NT used one of the last versions of Level 1. The workaround would be to see if you can find a used "NTR" controller for your printer at a price lest costly than buying a new printer. - Dov _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 13-Sep-1998 23:14:45-GMT,3091;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA08723 for ; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 17:14:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA11683; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 17:58:54 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 13 Sep 1998 17:57:41 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA11634; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 17:57:39 -0500 Message-ID: <35FC5B48.3AB29273@empa.ch> Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 00:54:51 +0100 From: Erwin Widmer Organization: EMPA X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5b1 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: de-CH, en-US MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] problem: acrobat not able to print a pdf file. References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Michael, I think in 1995 nobody was able to create a Acrobat 3.01 document. I therefore think your document was done with Acrobat 2.1. I have no idea why that doesn't print. But I would try the following remedies: 1. Save your PDF document out of Acrobat Reader as a PostScript file and do distill that file again. Maybe that solves your problem. 2. Open your PDF document in PageMaker or an other software which is able to open a PDF document. To open it could solve the PostScript problem. Than you have to save it again and print. 3. If you have a preflight software check your PDF file with it. The preflight software will tell you what the error is and you are able to react. Erwin Luskin@aol.com wrote: > ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== > > I am using acrobat 3.0.1 on a Macintosh G3 running OS 8.0. The system is > stable. I have a Macintosh personal laser printer NT attached. I am trying > to print an acrobat 3.0.1 document, last modified October 18, 1995. > > When I issue the print command, through acrobat, a message appears that eight > pages are being spooled, and that it is trying to print. So far, so good. > Then I get a message to the effect that it failed to print, see the finder for > details. When I click the finder, I am told there was a postscript error. > That is all. > > What could be wrong? What should I do? > snip > > > > Thank you. > > Michael B. Luskin _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 13-Sep-1998 23:26:03-GMT,3013;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA08927 for ; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 17:26:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA12227; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 18:11:28 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 13 Sep 1998 18:10:33 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA12183; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 18:10:32 -0500 Message-ID: <35FC5F28.51939A49@empa.ch> Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 01:11:22 +0100 From: Erwin Widmer Organization: EMPA X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5b1 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: de-CH, en-US MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] problem: acrobat not able to print a pdf file. References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Michael, I think in 1995 nobody was able to use Acrobat 3.01. Therefore I think you want to print a document which was done with Acrobat 2.1. But I don't know why you can't print it. But maybe you try the following things: 1. If you have a preflight software check your PDF document with it. The preflight software will tell you more about your PDF document. Maybe it helps you to solve your problem. 2. Save your PDF document as a PostScript file out of Acrobat Reader. And than distill it again. That sometimes solves such PostScript errors. 3. If you have a software which is able to open a PDF document like PageMaker try to attack your problem like that. Erwin Luskin@aol.com wrote: > ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== > > I am using acrobat 3.0.1 on a Macintosh G3 running OS 8.0. The system is > stable. I have a Macintosh personal laser printer NT attached. I am trying > to print an acrobat 3.0.1 document, last modified October 18, 1995. > > When I issue the print command, through acrobat, a message appears that eight > pages are being spooled, and that it is trying to print. So far, so good. > Then I get a message to the effect that it failed to print, see the finder for > details. When I click the finder, I am told there was a postscript error. > That is all. > > Thank you. > > Michael B. Luskin _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 13-Sep-1998 23:33:55-GMT,2610;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA09095 for ; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 17:33:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA12687; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 18:21:46 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 13 Sep 1998 18:20:54 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA12611; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 18:20:53 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] problem: acrobat not able to print a pdf file. Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 23:47:37 +0100 Message-ID: <000301bddf6c$e04ac360$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== > I am using acrobat 3.0.1 on a Macintosh G3 running OS 8.0. > The system is > stable. I have a Macintosh personal laser printer NT > attached. I am trying > to print an acrobat 3.0.1 document, last modified October 18, 1995. > This printer is not compatible with Acrobat. This should be covered in the Readme. > > I am not comfortable with acrobat. It is used for > documentation on a number > of packages I have bought, and I find it difficult to work > with. For one thing, the font size and/or shape is difficult (for me to > read. I don't know > if this is a problem for everyone, or just me. And the captions and > explanations in the pictures are also too small. The font size and shape can be *any* size and shape. The thing about Acrobat is that it reproduces the font chosen by the designer, which may be good or bad. Have you tried zooming in a little? Perhaps to 120%? Aandi _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 14-Sep-1998 2:48:05-GMT,2208;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA12602 for ; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 20:48:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA19833; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 21:32:24 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 13 Sep 1998 21:25:08 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA19484; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 21:25:04 -0500 Message-Id: <199809140224.WAA00293@smtp.snet.net> Subject: Re: [PDF] Watermarks Date: Sun, 13 Sep 98 22:26:46 -0500 x-sender: david.golden@pop.snet.net x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0, March 15, 1997 From: David Golden To: "Jennifer Amon" , "PDF List" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== >> My company is scanning thousands of documents to PDF. We are looking for >> a way to watermark them. Is there a plug-in or other third-party product >> available to do this? >We're using a batchable plug-in from Computerstream. >It was developed for us, but it is for sale, and it >works like a charm. It is driven by a watched directory >and a control file. Jennifer, Thanks for the information. They call it PDF Protector, and it does work like a charm. David Golden ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "When those who benefit are not those who do the work, technology will ultimately fail or be subverted." (Grudin's Law) _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 14-Sep-1998 5:51:47-GMT,2242;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA16296 for ; Sun, 13 Sep 1998 23:51:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA26604; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 00:38:32 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 14 Sep 1998 00:35:17 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA26465; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 00:35:16 -0500 Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 17:34:34 +1200 (NZST) X-Sender: both@pop3.netaccess.co.nz Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <9a77bcb5.35fc1523@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: "Andrew R. Both" Subject: Re: [PDF] 68K version of acrobat? Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== At 2:55 PM -0400 on 9/13/98, Luskin@aol.com wrote: > ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== > > I cannot run acrobat on my power book 180. Running OS 7.1, and have ram > doubler installed. And nothing else. What could be the problem? Is there a > 68K specific version of the software? But, come to think of it, I am running > successfully on a LC III and a Mac IIvx. > <<< run it on my 660av no worries. Which part of " Acrobat ' do you mean? :)> andrew ___________________________________________________ "Time is a great teacher, but unfortunately it kills all its pupils." 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French composer. ___________________________________________________ _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 14-Sep-1998 15:33:04-GMT,1773;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA29132 for ; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 09:33:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA15615; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 10:05:09 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 14 Sep 1998 09:59:18 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA15290; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 09:59:16 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Saccuzzo, Robin" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Problems with Interleaf Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 10:04:25 -0500 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Currently, my customer is having problems with Interleaf creating PS files that can be converted to PDF. The files will not distill and when we use Ghostscript (which ignores any problems that might be in the document) we have text running off the page. If anyone has information that might be helpful please email me. Thanks, Robin _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 14-Sep-1998 20:30:00-GMT,1902;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA07965 for ; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 14:29:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA32151; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 15:07:30 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 14 Sep 1998 15:04:19 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA31930; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 15:04:17 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Problems with Interleaf Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 19:27:42 +0100 Message-ID: <000101bde01a$af180380$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== > Currently, my customer is having problems with Interleaf > creating PS files > that can be converted to PDF. The files will not distill... Why not? What happens? Details please. Aandi _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 14-Sep-1998 20:50:10-GMT,1974;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA08655 for ; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 14:50:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA00937; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 15:28:48 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 14 Sep 1998 15:26:30 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA00778; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 15:26:29 -0500 From: "MCS" To: Subject: [PDF] FLASH Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 15:27:16 -0500 Message-ID: <000001bde01e$10984fe0$523e5fcc@archetyp> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19980911164800.02213d10@ntmail.bctf.bc.ca> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Anyone using FLASH and PDF? We're putting together a training program and would like to use FLASH for some of the interface in conjunction with PDF files and their links. Goal is to make it as seamless as possible. Anyone else working with these two programs together? Kevin Jackson triskelian design _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 14-Sep-1998 21:19:45-GMT,1635;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA09659 for ; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 15:19:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA02851; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 16:00:04 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 14 Sep 1998 15:57:54 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA02697; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 15:57:53 -0500 From: csnyder@mcgraw-hill.com Message-Id: <199809142057.AA19952@interlock.mgh.com> X-Mailer: ccMail Link to SMTP R8.20.00.25 Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 16:50:27 -0500 To: Subject: Re: [PDF] FLASH Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: "cc:Mail Note Part" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== The two seem to work fine together - I've had very few difficulties. Corbin csnyder@mcgraw-hill.com _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 14-Sep-1998 21:19:52-GMT,2599;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA09666 for ; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 15:19:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA02469; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 15:54:15 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 14 Sep 1998 15:52:01 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA02215; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 15:52:00 -0500 Message-ID: <3162C3A36143D211AF1800104B6FEC93068749@nts.infodata.com> From: "Viator, Lora" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Problems with Interleaf Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 16:55:01 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Your customer needs to go to Printerleaf first and then use the PL2PS script from Interleaf (it is free). This is if this customer is on a Windows platform. I have been using Interleaf for 10+ years and in conjunction with PDF for over 3years - for further answers or the script you can email me at viator@infodata.com Good Luck Lora -----Original Message----- From: Aandi Inston [mailto:quite@dial.pipex.com] Sent: Monday, September 14, 1998 11:28 AM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] Problems with Interleaf ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== > Currently, my customer is having problems with Interleaf > creating PS files > that can be converted to PDF. The files will not distill... Why not? What happens? Details please. Aandi _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 14-Sep-1998 21:20:07-GMT,2060;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA09682 for ; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 15:20:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA02791; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 15:59:06 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 14 Sep 1998 15:56:57 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA02588; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 15:56:56 -0500 X-Sender: john@mail.icac.org X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.2 Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 16:59:51 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: John Mulligan Subject: Re: [PDF] Auto Crop Multiple Pages? Cc: valter@uochb.cas.cz Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Message-ID: <1306330309-89828543@icac.org> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== In a message last week I said that I had been able to produce cropped pages using the Epilogue.ps option in the Distiller. I said that using the following settings I was able to crop from the top left corner of a page: %%EndDocument %%Trailer [ /CropBox [0 0 612 792] /PAGES pdfmark (Executed CropBox epilogue.ps) == flush %%EOF Well, it turns out that the coordinates "0 0" aren't the top left but (I believe) the bottom right. Has anyone any idea what the coordinates are for top left? Thanks again! John Mulligan john@icac.org _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 14-Sep-1998 21:20:26-GMT,2016;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA09694 for ; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 15:20:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA02474; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 15:54:27 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 14 Sep 1998 15:52:18 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA02287; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 15:52:17 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980914163842.0081e9f0@dionis.com> X-Sender: danielari%dionis.com@dionis.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 16:38:42 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Daniel-Ari Feinberg Subject: [PDF] Re: problem: acrobat not able to print a pdf file. In-Reply-To: <199809142004.PAA31947@everglades.binc.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Acrobat Exchange 3.01 will not print to many level one devices. As others have pointed out, there is a patch you can download to the laser printer every time you turn it on, but you should know that you can also use Acrobat Exchange 3.0 to print, because 3.0 does not have the problem with level 1 devices. Much cheaper than upgrading your laser printer. Regards, Daniel-Ari Feinberg Dionis _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 14-Sep-1998 21:24:59-GMT,3190;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA09864 for ; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 15:24:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA03357; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 16:06:13 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 14 Sep 1998 16:03:57 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA03162; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 16:03:55 -0500 From: "Scott Hamlow" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Auto Crop Multiple Pages? Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 14:05:55 -0700 Message-ID: <001601bde023$76b08900$45a2fecc@scotth.fourgen.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2232.26 In-Reply-To: <1306330309-89828543@icac.org> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== The coordinates are the lower left to upper right, therefore, a page size of 8.5x11 would be [0 0 612 792]. The coordinate system is explained the the PDF 1.2 Reference Manual, as well as the "Red Book" (Postscript Language Reference Manual v.2). > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com [mailto:owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com]On > Behalf Of John Mulligan > Sent: Monday, September 14, 1998 3:00 PM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Cc: valter@uochb.cas.cz > Subject: Re: [PDF] Auto Crop Multiple Pages? > > > > ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== > > In a message last week I said that I had been able to produce > cropped pages > using the Epilogue.ps option in the Distiller. I said that using the > following settings I was able to crop from the top left corner of a page: > > %%EndDocument > %%Trailer > [ /CropBox [0 0 612 792] /PAGES pdfmark > (Executed CropBox epilogue.ps) == flush > %%EOF > > Well, it turns out that the coordinates "0 0" aren't the top left but (I > believe) the bottom right. Has anyone any idea what the > coordinates are for > top left? > > Thanks again! > > John Mulligan > john@icac.org > > > > _______________________________________________________ > > -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- > * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * > + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + > _______________________________________________________ > > > _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 14-Sep-1998 21:27:27-GMT,1930;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA09960 for ; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 15:27:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA03704; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 16:11:51 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 14 Sep 1998 16:09:12 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA03538; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 16:09:09 -0500 From: "ian joslin" To: Subject: [PDF] Vector Graphics from Illustrator 7 Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 22:09:01 +0100 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Message-ID: <0feba5708210e98UPIMSSMTPUSR02@email.msn.com> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== I'm trying to put together an on-screen presentation through Exchange 3.0. All vectors (i.e., logos and outlined type) convert to PDF with jagged results at on-screen view size. If I zoom in to 800% they're fine. After a couple of hours trying to sniff out the problem through Distiller with different PostScript printers, I get the feeling that I've missed something pretty basic. Any ideas? Ian _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 14-Sep-1998 21:55:49-GMT,1816;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA10784 for ; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 15:55:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA05782; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 16:40:10 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 14 Sep 1998 16:37:41 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA05434; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 16:37:39 -0500 Message-ID: <510B6C2A8380D111997200A0C99DBA273FF4DF@mars.rauland.com> From: "Schiff, Kenny" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Verity Search 97 and CD-Web Publisher... anyone using them? Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 16:37:22 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== We're implementing Search 97 with a large collection of PDFs, and I was hoping to hook up with some others doing the same. Who's doing this, and what issues have you run into. I would love to discuss and get tips. So far it works quite well with PDFs, although it's been a lot more cumbersome than I hoped. _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 14-Sep-1998 22:05:59-GMT,2586;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA11161 for ; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 16:05:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA06280; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 16:47:40 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 14 Sep 1998 16:45:29 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA06168; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 16:45:28 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Auto Crop Multiple Pages? Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 22:33:02 +0100 Message-ID: <000b01bde028$d2545de0$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <1306330309-89828543@icac.org> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== I'd be surprised if the co-ordinates are for anything but bottom left. That is the PostScript and Acrobat standard, documented in many places. For top left you need to know the height of the page. Suppose it is 1000 points. Then you would want /CropBox [0 1000 792 sub 612 792] where 1000 792 sub will be automatically replaced by the results of 1000-792. Aandi > In a message last week I said that I had been able to produce > cropped pages > using the Epilogue.ps option in the Distiller. I said that using the > following settings I was able to crop from the top left > corner of a page: > > %%EndDocument > %%Trailer > [ /CropBox [0 0 612 792] /PAGES pdfmark > (Executed CropBox epilogue.ps) == flush > %%EOF > > Well, it turns out that the coordinates "0 0" aren't the top > left but (I > believe) the bottom right. Has anyone any idea what the > coordinates are for > top left? _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 15-Sep-1998 1:14:10-GMT,2282;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA15585 for ; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 19:14:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA16365; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 19:47:55 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 14 Sep 1998 19:44:59 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA16154; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 19:44:57 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Vector Graphics from Illustrator 7 Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 22:58:26 +0100 Message-ID: <000c01bde041$e4b67220$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <0feba5708210e98UPIMSSMTPUSR02@email.msn.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== > I'm trying to put together an on-screen presentation through > Exchange 3.0. > > All vectors (i.e., logos and outlined type) convert to PDF with jagged > results > at on-screen view size. If I zoom in to 800% they're fine. > > After a couple of hours trying to sniff out the problem > through Distiller > with > different PostScript printers, I get the feeling that I've > missed something > pretty basic. What process are you using to get from Illustrator to Exchange? Simply printing to file from Illustrator and Distilling the result, or something else? Aandi _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 15-Sep-1998 2:22:51-GMT,2083;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA16901 for ; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 20:22:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA19986; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 20:57:32 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 14 Sep 1998 20:54:44 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA19826; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 20:54:43 -0500 Message-ID: <35FDC92B.F9DA7B48@avenza.com> Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 21:55:56 -0400 From: Ted Florence Organization: Avenza Global Technologies X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Creating a PDF from Quark References: <510B6C2A8380D111997200A0C99DBA273FF4DF@mars.rauland.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Can anyone help us create a PDF from a Quark 3.31 document. Seems we are having nothing but trouble attempting this. Any suggestions would be greatly received. -- Ted Florence Executive Vice-President ted@avenza.com Avenza Software Developers of MAPublisher, MAPublisher-GPS, CADpublisher & JAMBuddy ***** Bridging the gap between GIS and cartography ***** Visit http://www.avenza.com Check out JAMBuddy and make your graphics INTELLIGENT *******MAKE YOUR PICTURES WORTH 1000 WORDS******* _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 15-Sep-1998 3:19:27-GMT,2180;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA18105 for ; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 21:19:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA23193; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 21:56:06 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 14 Sep 1998 21:53:56 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA23052; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 21:53:54 -0500 Message-ID: <35FDD59B.F8EA81AE@netropolis.net> Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 21:48:59 -0500 From: Dean Johnson X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Creating a PDF from Quark References: <510B6C2A8380D111997200A0C99DBA273FF4DF@mars.rauland.com> <35FDC92B.F9DA7B48@avenza.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Ted Florence wrote: > ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== > > Can anyone help us create a PDF from a Quark 3.31 document. > Seems we are having nothing but trouble attempting this. > Any suggestions would be greatly received. > > -- > Ted Florence > Executive Vice-President > ted@avenza.com > I assume you have tried printing the file to disk and then using Distiller to create your PDF. Try different printer drivers. Sometimes I find that will help. More info on what you have tried and exactly what problems your having would be helpful. Dean _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 15-Sep-1998 3:19:34-GMT,1863;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA18113 for ; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 21:19:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA23178; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 21:55:37 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 14 Sep 1998 21:49:44 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA22826; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 21:49:43 -0500 Message-ID: <35FDD49C.E1FFCC64@netropolis.net> Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 21:44:44 -0500 From: Dean Johnson X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] FLASH References: <199809142057.AA19952@interlock.mgh.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== csnyder@mcgraw-hill.com wrote: > ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== > > The two seem to work fine together - I've had very few difficulties. > _______________________________________________________ I am also interested in using Flash and PDF. Do you have any examples we could look at? Dean _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 15-Sep-1998 5:57:22-GMT,2165;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA21224 for ; Mon, 14 Sep 1998 23:57:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA30003; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 00:32:50 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 15 Sep 1998 00:28:38 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA29793; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 00:28:37 -0500 Message-Id: <199809150528.WAA00436@cuckoo.prod.itd.earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.0c (197) Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 22:31:46 -0800 Subject: Re: [PDF] Creating a PDF from Quark From: "C. Scott Miller" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== >Can anyone help us create a PDF from a Quark 3.31 document. >Seems we are having nothing but trouble attempting this. >Any suggestions would be greatly received. There are detailed "How To..."instructions for Distilling documents available on-line at http://www.performancegraphics.com/Pages/compdist.html#Postscript. There are about 60 other Acrobat "how to's" at this website. C. Scott Miller PDF R_e_s_e_a_r_c_h__C_o_m_p_a_n_i_o_n A Designer's Guide to Adobe's Portable Document Format http://www.performancegraphics.com a production of Performance Graphics miller@performancegraphics.com _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 15-Sep-1998 6:33:03-GMT,3753;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA22317 for ; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 00:33:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA31484; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 01:12:15 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 15 Sep 1998 01:09:50 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA31372; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 01:09:49 -0500 Message-ID: <330799A9B609D111AFE000609754172C28C3BE@pc03485.ina.de> From: Wanka Martin To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: AW: [PDF] Problems with Interleaf Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 08:12:47 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id BAA31368 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Hi Robin, we often have used Interleaf on UNIX (HP and IBM) and PC to print to a PS-File that you can than transfer to PDF. The main problem with Interleaf are the fonts and the way to create a PS-File. If you use Interleaf Ver. 5.3/5.4 you have to create a PS-Printer with the printer_install-script. There you can define a print out to a file. Please don´t use the output to EPS. During the installation of the printer you have to select the printer type. Take a "other Postscript printer" and later on choose a PPD-File that is useable for a global PS-file like ULTRA60.PPD or APPLE422.PPD. Restart Interleaf and try out to create the PS-File. Using Interleaf 6.1 or 6.4 on UNIX is a little bit easier. Create a printer, choose print to file, choose PS-Printer and select one of the PPD-Files (see above). Define the coverpage off and the default paper-size. Create the printer and try to print the first PS-file. If you use 6.3 or 6.4 on Win NT there is no problem to create a PDF-File directly out of Interleaf. Select the Distiller 3.0 or 3.01 output (be sure the Distiller Assistant is running) and print out your document. Hope this helps. Regards Martin > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > Von: Saccuzzo, Robin [SMTP:Robin.Saccuzzo@cas-inc.com] > Gesendet am: Montag, 14. September 1998 17:04 > An: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Betreff: [PDF] Problems with Interleaf > > > ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== > > > Currently, my customer is having problems with Interleaf creating PS > files > that can be converted to PDF. The files will not distill and when we use > Ghostscript (which ignores any problems that might be in the document) we > have text running off the page. If anyone has information that might be > helpful please email me. > > Thanks, > > Robin > > _______________________________________________________ > > -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- > * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * > + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + > _______________________________________________________ > _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 15-Sep-1998 10:55:11-GMT,2586;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA27181 for ; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 04:55:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA07549; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 05:32:08 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 15 Sep 1998 05:31:12 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA07487; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 05:31:11 -0500 Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 06:30:43 -0400 From: olaf druemmer Subject: Re: [PDF] Creating a PDF from Quark To: PDF listserver Message-ID: <199809150630_MC2-5976-A95E@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id FAA07483 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== It would be really useful if you could explain in more detail what's going wrong (eg. is your CPU falling apart afterwards, or are little green men emerging from your floppy disk slot... ;-> ). >Can anyone help us create a PDF from a Quark 3.31 document. >Seems we are having nothing but trouble attempting this. >Any suggestions would be greatly received. Olaf Druemmer ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Olaf Druemmer ------------------------------------------------------------------------- callas software gmbh Tel +49.30.44390310 Leonardo +49.30.44390311 Pappelallee 9 Fax +49.30.4416402 connect.pdf +49.30.44342391 D 10437 Berlin callas@compuserve.com http://www.callas.de ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Download 'White Paper PDF for Prepress': http://www.callas.de/pdf_wp.pdf ------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 15-Sep-1998 10:55:54-GMT,2269;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA27202 for ; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 04:55:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA06909; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 05:16:41 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 15 Sep 1998 05:13:57 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA06797; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 05:13:55 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Creating a PDF from Quark Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 10:20:08 +0100 Message-ID: <000101bde091$5f12f6c0$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <35FDC92B.F9DA7B48@avenza.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== > Can anyone help us create a PDF from a Quark 3.31 document. > Seems we are having nothing but trouble attempting this. > Any suggestions would be greatly received. Not trying to be funny, but thousands of people are doing this successfully, so it's hard to see where you might be going wrong unless you tell us the symptoms. The basic steps are 1. Open the document in XPress. 2. Print to file using a PostScript printer driver and the Acrobat Distiller PPD. 3. Use Acrobat Distiller to read the file you just wrote and create a PDF file. Where is this going wrong? Aandi _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 15-Sep-1998 11:02:07-GMT,2602;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA27305 for ; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 05:02:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA08250; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 05:51:47 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 15 Sep 1998 05:50:52 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA08214; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 05:50:51 -0500 From: "Christine Glaeser" Organization: Univ.Oldenburg University Library To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 12:47:27 MET-1 Subject: [PDF] Embedded font information X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.23) Message-ID: Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Hello, I got an PDF-document (LaTex File via dvi2ps via Distiller to PDF) which causes some questions and problems: If I look at this file in 3 different software configurations I get 3 different listings of the embedded fonts in the "Document-Info-Fonts"! 1. Windows3.11 Acrobat Reader 3.0 English version: 4 fonts embedded 2. Windows3.11 Acrobat Reader 3,0 German version: 2 fonts embedded 3. Windows95 Acrobat Reader 3,01 German version: 8 fonts embedded As I have less experience with this font-information, can someone explain this to me? Besides, with the second configuration I get some font problems for some characters. This problem actually brought me to the different Document-Info fomt information. Thanks for any help and advice Christine Glaeser ****************************************************** Christine Glaeser Bibliothekarin / Internet / IVS Bibliothek der Carl-von-Ossietzky-Universitaet Oldenburg Postfach 2541 D-26015 Oldenburg Telephon: +49 441 798 2269/4028 Telefax: +49 441 798 4040 E-Post: glaeser@bis.uni-oldenburg.de ****************************************************** _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 15-Sep-1998 12:29:43-GMT,2514;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA29050 for ; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 06:29:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA10957; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 07:01:15 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 15 Sep 1998 06:59:58 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA10860; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 06:59:56 -0500 Message-ID: <617829F216CED011966000805F59E073017FC549@exchptc1.switch.com> From: "Huston, Virgil H." To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Creating a PDF from Quark Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 07:59:49 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== [Huston, Virgil H.] Are you using Distiller or PDF Writer? You must use Distiller for proper results. THere is a section in the Help specifically on Quark. Virgil > > Can anyone help us create a PDF from a Quark 3.31 document. > Seems we are having nothing but trouble attempting this. > Any suggestions would be greatly received. > > -- > Ted Florence > Executive Vice-President > ted@avenza.com > > Avenza Software > Developers of MAPublisher, MAPublisher-GPS, CADpublisher & JAMBuddy > ***** Bridging the gap between GIS and cartography ***** > Visit http://www.avenza.com > Check out JAMBuddy and make your graphics INTELLIGENT > *******MAKE YOUR PICTURES WORTH 1000 WORDS******* > > > > _______________________________________________________ > > -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- > * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * > + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + > _______________________________________________________ > _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 15-Sep-1998 14:31:08-GMT,2400;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA01606 for ; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 08:31:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA17193; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 09:04:10 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 15 Sep 1998 09:02:44 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA17063; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 09:02:42 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Embedded font information Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 14:40:01 +0100 Message-ID: <000201bde0b0$651e6a80$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== > > If I look at this file in 3 different software configurations I get 3 > different listings of the embedded fonts in the "Document-Info-Fonts"! > > 1. Windows3.11 Acrobat Reader 3.0 English version: 4 fonts embedded > 2. Windows3.11 Acrobat Reader 3,0 German version: 2 fonts embedded > 3. Windows95 Acrobat Reader 3,01 German version: 8 fonts embedded > It is a very common error to misread document info->font usage and assume you can tell reliably whether a font is embedded. This is not the case. The words "embedded subset" certainly mean that an embedded font subset is used. But when a font name appears it does NOT mean that the font is not embedded (if you follow the double negative). Aandi _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 15-Sep-1998 14:47:29-GMT,2642;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA01980 for ; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 08:47:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA18962; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 09:29:09 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 15 Sep 1998 09:27:59 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA18857; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 09:27:57 -0500 Message-ID: From: Nathan Keller To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] Embedded font information Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 07:27:58 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== In the second configuration what font problems are you getting? -Nathan -----Original Message----- From: Christine Glaeser [mailto:glaeser@bis.uni-oldenburg.de] Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 1998 5:47 AM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Embedded font information Besides, with the second configuration I get some font problems for some characters. This problem actually brought me to the different Document-Info fomt information. Thanks for any help and advice Christine Glaeser ****************************************************** Christine Glaeser Bibliothekarin / Internet / IVS Bibliothek der Carl-von-Ossietzky-Universitaet Oldenburg Postfach 2541 D-26015 Oldenburg Telephon: +49 441 798 2269/4028 Telefax: +49 441 798 4040 E-Post: glaeser@bis.uni-oldenburg.de ****************************************************** _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 15-Sep-1998 16:44:24-GMT,2441;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA05357 for ; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 10:44:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA25580; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 11:20:49 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 15 Sep 1998 11:18:53 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA25444; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 11:18:51 -0500 Message-ID: <35FEA1B8.E512C349@empa.ch> Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 18:20:00 +0100 From: Erwin Widmer Organization: EMPA X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5b1 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: de-CH, en-US MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] FLASH References: <000001bde01e$10984fe0$523e5fcc@archetyp> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Kevin, That's the first time I hear about FLASH. Please give me a hint to more information about? Thanks. Erwin MCS wrote: > ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== > > Anyone using FLASH and PDF? We're putting together a training program and > would like to use FLASH for some of the interface in conjunction with PDF > files and their links. Goal is to make it as seamless as possible. Anyone > else working with these two programs together? > > Kevin Jackson > triskelian design > > _______________________________________________________ > > -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- > * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * > + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + > _______________________________________________________ > _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 15-Sep-1998 16:45:55-GMT,1665;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA05392 for ; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 10:45:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA26213; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 11:31:42 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 15 Sep 1998 11:30:46 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA26163; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 11:30:45 -0500 Message-ID: <35FE95C7.DD39AAE1@eisolutions.com> Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 12:28:55 -0400 From: Michael Stearne Organization: EIS X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "pdf@lists.pdfzone.com" Subject: [PDF] PDF to Word Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Is there a conversion script or such for Converting PDFs to Word 97. Is this done in word or possibly Exchange? Thanks, Michael Stearne _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 15-Sep-1998 17:37:30-GMT,3690;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA06931 for ; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 11:37:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA28136; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 12:04:10 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 15 Sep 1998 12:03:01 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA28055; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 12:02:59 -0500 Message-ID: <163D3E7606B6D011A00600005A40BFD20198344B@sgty9900.pgh.wec.com> From: "Pavol, Roberta A." To: "'ted florence'" , "'pdflist'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Creating a PDF from Quark Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 13:03:57 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Ted, You need to make all your settings in the Page Setup window. 1. Make sure you have Acrobat Distiller PPD selected in your printer setup box. 2. Also check your page size and the page width dimensions, you need to set the width correctly. 3. You can also set items like dpi on this screen. 4. Click on the options box (if on the Mac) and make sure Smooth Graphics is NOT checked. This causes a real problem if this box is checked. Once you have your page setup options set, then click OK and go to Print and print to a file (turn off separations, tiling etc.). Unless everything is set right in Page Setup, you will have trouble with page orientation, bleeds and other items. Then distill your file in Acrobat Distiller. [You may still have some problems when the file is distilled particularly if you used the blending for colors available within Quark. Most of that type of graphic work is best done in Illustrator (or Freehand) and placed as a graphic.] This should work. Roberta Pavol Source W pavolra@westinghouse.com 9/15/98 12:56 PM > ---------- > From: Ted Florence > Reply To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 1998 1:55 AM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: [PDF] Creating a PDF from Quark > > > ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== > > Can anyone help us create a PDF from a Quark 3.31 document. > Seems we are having nothing but trouble attempting this. > Any suggestions would be greatly received. > > -- > Ted Florence > Executive Vice-President > ted@avenza.com > > Avenza Software > Developers of MAPublisher, MAPublisher-GPS, CADpublisher & JAMBuddy > ***** Bridging the gap between GIS and cartography ***** > Visit http://www.avenza.com > Check out JAMBuddy and make your graphics INTELLIGENT > *******MAKE YOUR PICTURES WORTH 1000 WORDS******* > > > > _______________________________________________________ > > -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- > * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * > + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + > _______________________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 15-Sep-1998 17:55:35-GMT,2014;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA07408 for ; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 11:55:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA29920; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 12:37:08 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 15 Sep 1998 12:34:59 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA29772; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 12:34:58 -0500 Message-Id: <199809151734.MAA29767@everglades.binc.net> Date: 15 Sep 98 13:34:24 +0000 From: Justin Blocksom Subject: RE: [PDF] PDF to Word To: pdf X-Mailer: QuickMail Pro 1.5.2 (Mac) X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-Ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id MAA29768 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Reply to: RE: [PDF] PDF to Word >Is there a conversion script or such for Converting PDFs to Word 97. Is >this done in word or possibly Exchange? > >Thanks, >Michael Stearne . What exactly are you trying to achieve? PDF is so much more than Word, and so much more stable, your workflow is very unusual. . Justin Blocksom Digital Production Manager Printing & Publications Corp. jblocksom@ printandpub.com . _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 15-Sep-1998 17:55:35-GMT,2344;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA07407 for ; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 11:55:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA29827; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 12:35:16 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 15 Sep 1998 12:32:27 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA29606; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 12:32:26 -0500 Message-Id: Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF to Word Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 19:32:08 +0200 x-sender: dtripp@pop03.bitmailer.net x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: dtripp To: , "Michael Stearne" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Replying to Michael Stearne's (mstearne@eisolutions.com) message of 9/15/98 6:28 PM >Is there a conversion script or such for Converting PDFs to Word 97. Is >this done in word or possibly Exchange? I quote Arnis Gubins from the Acrobat Forum on CIS on this: >I hope that you understand that going to PDF (at least for now) is pretty >much a one-way street. If anybody, at some point in the future, wants to >use (i.e. in the native application or application de jour) the drawing, >stored as a PDF in the archive, then they will probably have to >reconstruct it from scratch. As Steve Rinsberg put it (getting data back >out of PDFs) so succinctly recently - it's like trying to recreate a >chicken starting from chicken soup. To my knowledge, there is no easy way to do what you are asking for. _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 15-Sep-1998 18:11:18-GMT,2546;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA07863 for ; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 12:11:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA31136; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 12:55:31 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 15 Sep 1998 12:53:21 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA30979; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 12:53:20 -0500 Message-Id: <199809151753.MAA30974@everglades.binc.net> Date: 15 Sep 98 13:52:48 +0000 From: Justin Blocksom Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF to Word To: pdf X-Mailer: QuickMail Pro 1.5.2 (Mac) X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-Ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id MAA30975 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Reply to: Re: [PDF] PDF to Word >Replying to Michael Stearne's (mstearne@eisolutions.com) message of >9/15/98 6:28 PM > >>Is there a conversion script or such for Converting PDFs to Word 97. Is >>this done in word or possibly Exchange? > >I quote Arnis Gubins from the Acrobat Forum on CIS on this: > >>I hope that you understand that going to PDF (at least for now) is pretty >>much a one-way street. If anybody, at some point in the future, wants to >>use (i.e. in the native application or application de jour) the drawing, >>stored as a PDF in the archive, then they will probably have to >>reconstruct it from scratch. As Steve Rinsberg put it (getting data back >>out of PDFs) so succinctly recently - it's like trying to recreate a >>chicken starting from chicken soup. > >To my knowledge, there is no easy way to do what you are asking for. > -- Well said. . Justin Blocksom Printing & Publications Corp. jblocksom@printandpub.com _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 15-Sep-1998 18:12:16-GMT,2685;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA07886 for ; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 12:12:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA30789; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 12:50:50 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 15 Sep 1998 12:48:26 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA30628; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 12:48:25 -0500 Message-ID: <00EF773582D6D111939D00A0C9A92F6401A09B86@il0015exch003u.ih.lucent.com> From: "Farrell, Kevin (Kevin)" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] PDF to Word Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 12:47:47 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== I can speak for the Gemini plugin, which will extract a PDF to RFT, which can then be opened in Word. That is, if you don't mind all the text being in a text box. For me, this is a real drawback, but it will put the PDF into a Word document, or HTML document. If there are more immediate methods (w/out the RTF middleman) I don't know of them. _____________________________________ Kevin Farrell Lucent Technologies email: mailto:kfarrell@lucent.com _____________________________________ -----Original Message----- From: Michael Stearne [mailto:mstearne@eisolutions.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 1998 11:29 AM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] PDF to Word ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Is there a conversion script or such for Converting PDFs to Word 97. Is this done in word or possibly Exchange? Thanks, Michael Stearne _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 15-Sep-1998 18:44:35-GMT,1840;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA08893 for ; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 12:44:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA00151; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 13:27:52 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 15 Sep 1998 13:25:07 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA32760; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 13:25:03 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 14:22:14 -0400 Message-ID: <00009A17.10238@htrans.com> From: adam_donahue@htrans.com (Adam Donahue) Subject: [PDF] chinese quark to pdf To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== I have Exchange, Distiller, PDFwriter, and Chinese Quark 3.3 (of course there is no Chinese PDFwriter!!) and need to make PDF from Chinese Quark. Can anyone help me?? I am using Chinese Language Kit and can only get two fonts from the language kit to convert into PDF. Does anybody have suggestions, hints, or even, the SOLUTION?? Thanks for your time. Adam _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 15-Sep-1998 21:13:39-GMT,1969;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA12614 for ; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 15:13:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA08942; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 15:54:13 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 15 Sep 1998 15:51:10 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA08758; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 15:51:06 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980915170005.00835ba0@iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 17:00:05 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF to Word In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== > >I quote Arnis Gubins from the Acrobat Forum on CIS on this: > >As Steve Rinsberg put it (getting data back >>out of PDFs) so succinctly recently - it's like trying to recreate a >>chicken starting from chicken soup. > And to quote my reply to Arnis, more or less: I stole that from Aandi. My singular talent, if talent I have, is to steal only from the best. Steve Rindsberg/Prez RDP http://www.rdpslides.com _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 15-Sep-1998 21:31:47-GMT,2533;000000000001 Received: from dkuug.dk (ptah.dkuug.dk [195.215.30.66]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA13061 for ; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 15:31:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by dkuug.dk (8.8.7/8.8.7) id XAA05829 for SC22WG14-list; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 23:19:27 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from SC22WG14-request) Message-Id: <199809152119.XAA05829@dkuug.dk> From: WILLIAM SEYMOUR X-Sequence: SC22WG14@dkuug.dk 6143 Errors-To: SC22WG14-request@dkuug.dk To: " - (052)sc22wg14(a)dkuug.dk" Subject: (SC22WG14.6143) C9X Rationale Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 17:14:05 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by dkuug.dk id XAA05819 The Rationale is on the way; the Word document is being converted to .ps and .pdf now. Knows bugs: Substantive: - There are three pieces of floating-point rationale that still need to be added. (My e-mail system made garbage out of some MIME stuff, so I've asked Jim to resend.) - The last sentence in 6.5.4 now says The Standard (6.3.1.4) requires that a cast of one floating point type to another (for example, double to float) results in an actual conversion. The reference was probably intended to be 6.3.1.5; but I honestly don't think that 6.3.1.5 actually makes that requirement. (Larry is being patient with me, though, so I might see the light before long. 8-) - I'm not happy with the index. Fixing that will be my background task between now and Santa Cruz. - It doesn't have a proper document number yet. Format: - I haven't yet figured out how to get Word to give me different fonts in the ToC, or how to put the page numbers at the right margin. - There are some tables in the floating-point part that I still have as just columns of text. Rather than have everybody check the whole document, it might be a good idea if folks signed up to check specific parts of the document; that way we won't have a lot of duplication of effort. A possible division might be (from start to one-past-end): - up to clause 6 (~20 pages) - 6 to 6.7 (~35 pages) - 6.7 to 7 (~35 pages) - 7 to 7.18 (~25 pages) - 7.18 to annexes (~25 pages) - annexes to index (~25 pages) Any volunteers? --Bill Seymour (bsey@pobox.com) 15-Sep-1998 22:06:00-GMT,2101;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA13943 for ; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 16:05:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA12828; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 16:48:14 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 15 Sep 1998 16:45:48 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA12643; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 16:45:43 -0500 From: "Michael R. Cessna" Organization: Cessna Publishing To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 16:45:17 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: [PDF] Font problems In-reply-to: <199809152051.PAA08778@everglades.binc.net> Message-ID: <19980915214531.AAA3633@ns1.win.net.win.net> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== I ran into a problem converting AmiPro documents (.SAM) to PDF using PDFWriter via Lotus WordPro. The problem is that certain fonts are totally missing. My specific problem has been with 'Arial MT Black', the font is just missing (I have 'Embed all fonts selected'). If I replace this font with 'Arial [Bold]' the problem goes away. I would use distiller but my client is using True Type fonts...and they need to build a full-text search index. Is there another way to solve the problem besides replacing the fonts? Thanks. Regards, Michael Cessna _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 15-Sep-1998 23:24:34-GMT,2596;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA15870 for ; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 17:24:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA13884; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 17:05:27 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 15 Sep 1998 17:02:41 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA13687; Tue, 15 Sep 1998 17:02:39 -0500 From: "MCS" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] FLASH Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 17:03:31 -0500 Message-ID: <000001bde0f4$acff5aa0$523e5fcc@archetyp> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <35FEA1B8.E512C349@empa.ch> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== FLASH is a vector based web animation program that is put out by Macromedia. Check out www. shockrave.com for some of the innovative sites done with it. It requires a plugin (now) but downloads in less than a minute. Small file size and quick downloading are two huge benefits. Think of GIF animations on steroids that can be setup with actions like hyperlinks and so on. It is by far the most promising thing I've seen for the web. We're working on a PDF based training piece and my interest is in using FLASH for the interface. Kevin -----Original Message----- From: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com [mailto:owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com]On Behalf Of Erwin Widmer Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 1998 12:20 PM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] FLASH ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Kevin, That's the first time I hear about FLASH. Please give me a hint to more information about? Thanks. Erwin _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 16-Sep-1998 9:39:08-GMT,2259;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA29095 for ; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 03:39:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA10387; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 04:23:13 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 16 Sep 1998 04:19:40 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA10203; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 04:19:38 -0500 Message-ID: <006601bde152$d6de4260$a2c0a2c3@phil.customer.tvd.be> From: "Philippe Dachsbeck" To: Subject: [PDF] Solution for fast printing of large PDF/image documents ? Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 11:17:32 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== What is the best workgroup printer for printing large PDF/image documents at 40 ppm? (300 dpi - 800 pages) ? Today, the answer seems to be: NONE except production printers like Xerox Docutech We are facing a very ennoying issue with our long documents in PDF/image format (200 & 300 dpi - 800 pages). : no single wide-spread workgroup printer able to print faster than 10 ppm (average) ... We have tested various workgroup PS printers with plenty of memory: none have passed the 15 ppm limit with our PDF/image documents. Who has already succeeded with PDf/image printing at 40 p _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 16-Sep-1998 9:39:11-GMT,1882;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA29101 for ; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 03:39:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA10290; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 04:21:20 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 16 Sep 1998 04:14:00 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA09981; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 04:13:57 -0500 Message-ID: <35FF8146.71320BFD@tip.nl> Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 11:13:42 +0200 From: "T. Kusters" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Automatic conversion on a server Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Hello, Is there anyone who can tell me if there's a script available, that automatically converts Word and PowerPoint files into PDF, when such a file arrives in a directory or database on a server (Unix/NT). For example a Word file wich is uploaded to a server, gets automatically converted to PDF at this server. Thanks, Tjarda Kusters Trainee at the Eindhoven University of Technology _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 16-Sep-1998 10:16:03-GMT,1946;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA29774 for ; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 04:16:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA11789; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 04:57:23 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 16 Sep 1998 04:53:42 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA11621; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 04:53:38 -0500 Message-Id: <199809160948.LAA06938@bootp.prisma-presse.com> Date: 16 Sep 98 11:53:25 +0100 From: thierry berger Subject: RE: [PDF] chinese quark to pdf To: pdf X-Mailer: QuickMail Pro 1.5.2 (Mac) X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-Ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id EAA11617 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Reply to: RE: [PDF] chinese quark to pdf When you generate the postscript file with XPress, you can try to insert polices in the file (it's an option with XPress when you print in a postscript file (Polices include : All), default is none). After you use distiller for create the PDF file. I don't know, if it's the solution. _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 16-Sep-1998 10:28:27-GMT,2700;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA00005 for ; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 04:28:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA12630; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 05:16:55 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 16 Sep 1998 05:13:19 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA12471; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 05:13:15 -0500 Message-ID: <35FF8EE5.1F2E37D8@emtex.com> Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 11:11:49 +0100 From: Chris Cooper Organization: Emtex Ltd. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5b1 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en-GB MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Automatic conversion on a server References: <35FF8146.71320BFD@tip.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== T. Kusters wrote: > Is there anyone who can tell me if there's a script available, that > automatically converts Word and PowerPoint files into PDF, when such a > file arrives in a directory or database on a server (Unix/NT). > > For example a Word file wich is uploaded to a server, gets automatically > converted to PDF at this server. While looking around on the pdfzone site the other day, I spotted an entry for a product called LocalRender which says it auto converts Word to PDF (I know nothing else about the product). Check out: http://www.emerge.pdfzone.com/products/software/toolinfo_convert.html Alternatively, if you are (or know) a Windows programmer, it should be relatively easy to write something that watches a directory, picks up that a file has arrived, uses OLE (or whatever they are calling it this month) to fire up Word (or Powerpoint), load the doc, and print it. I don't know whether it would be better to print it via PDFWriter to get a PDF directly, or to a PostScript file (and have Distiller Assistant auto pick it up and do a PDF file). Chris Cooper Emtex Ltd Watford United Kingdom _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 16-Sep-1998 11:04:23-GMT,2131;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA00695 for ; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 05:04:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA13939; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 05:46:34 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 16 Sep 1998 05:42:58 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA13730; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 05:42:54 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19980916124326.0097b850@ms90.vtex.lt> X-Sender: sarunas@ms90.vtex.lt X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 12:43:26 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Sarunas Subject: Re: [PDF] Automatic conversion on a server In-Reply-To: <35FF8EE5.1F2E37D8@emtex.com> References: <35FF8146.71320BFD@tip.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== > Is there anyone who can tell me if there's a script available, that > automatically converts Word and PowerPoint files into PDF, when such a > file arrives in a directory or database on a server (Unix/NT). Why not to use Distiller on "watched folders" (see Acrobat help for "watched folders")? You only have to convince your users to print their docs from Word/PowerPoint into PostScript files into "watched folders". Sarunas Burdulis Head Electronic Publishing VTEX Ltd. sarunas@vtex.lt +370 2 729609; +370 98 24498 _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 16-Sep-1998 11:04:25-GMT,3552;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA00701 for ; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 05:04:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA13893; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 05:45:31 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 16 Sep 1998 05:41:27 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA13652; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 05:41:21 -0500 Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 06:40:58 -0400 From: Michael Vorel Subject: [PDF] Solution for fast printing of large PDF/image documents ? To: "INTERNET:pdf@lists.pdfzone.com" Message-ID: <199809160641_MC2-59A1-154E@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id FAA13648 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Message text written by INTERNET:pdf@lists.pdfzone.com >What is the best workgroup printer for printing large PDF/image documents at 40 ppm? (300 dpi - 800 pages) ? Today, the answer seems to be: NONE except production printers like Xerox Docutech We are facing a very ennoying issue with our long documents in PDF/image format (200 & 300 dpi - 800 pages). : no single wide-spread workgroup printer able to print faster than 10 ppm (average) ... We have tested various workgroup PS printers with plenty of memory: none have passed the 15 ppm limit with our PDF/image documents. Who has already succeeded with PDf/image printing at 40 p < I use and recommend the Oce 3165 page printer for printing complex pages with many graphic objects embedded in them. Depending on the document complexity, the printer runs at or close to rated speed of 60 images per minutes. (Pages are too loose a definition, because of duplexing, ledger size documents or 2-up, 4-up scenarios.) The new Docutech NSPlus front end for the Docutech line should move the Xerox line back up to 100+ images per minute. Once you get over the Postscript rip time, print engines are beginning to increase in speeds. Printers like the Xeicon and Indigo can move you to 70 ipm in a duplex environment. The one off versus two+ print runs also have a bearing on the wall time for print production. Inter-mixing short jobs with long jobs or one-offs and multi-copy jobs, will improves the wall time perception that the printer is idle. I work with several printing vendors to improve production runs. Our business is to provide clients with improved document production. We print over 2,000,000 color images and more than 12,000,000 black & white images per month on page printers. This excludes our press runs. If you have further questions, or would like to discuss this more detail, please contact me at mvorel@compuserve.com michael _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 16-Sep-1998 13:23:55-GMT,2137;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA03404 for ; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 07:23:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA20125; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 07:59:17 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 16 Sep 1998 07:54:57 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA19821; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 07:54:51 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: KEYCORP From: "Karen L Mibus" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <85256681.004659CD.00@keybank.com> Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 08:51:28 -0400 Subject: RE: [PDF] FLASH Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Kevin wrote: Small file size and quick downloading are two huge benefits. Think of GIF animations on steroids that can be setup with actions like hyperlinks and so on. It is by far the most promising thing I've seen for the web. We're working on a PDF based training piece and my interest is in using FLASH for the interface. Kevin, our Multimedia CBT department is very interested in seeing examples of how you are incorporating Flash with Acrobat to generate interactive training PDFs. Can you refer me to your Web site or can you send samples to my e-mail address? --Karen L. Mibus New Media Analyst/Developer Key Services Corporation karen_l_mibus@keybank.com _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 16-Sep-1998 9:39:08-GMT,2259;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA29095 for ; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 03:39:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA10387; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 04:23:13 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 16 Sep 1998 04:19:40 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA10203; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 04:19:38 -0500 Message-ID: <006601bde152$d6de4260$a2c0a2c3@phil.customer.tvd.be> From: "Philippe Dachsbeck" To: Subject: [PDF] Solution for fast printing of large PDF/image documents ? Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 11:17:32 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== What is the best workgroup printer for printing large PDF/image documents at 40 ppm? (300 dpi - 800 pages) ? Today, the answer seems to be: NONE except production printers like Xerox Docutech We are facing a very ennoying issue with our long documents in PDF/image format (200 & 300 dpi - 800 pages). : no single wide-spread workgroup printer able to print faster than 10 ppm (average) ... We have tested various workgroup PS printers with plenty of memory: none have passed the 15 ppm limit with our PDF/image documents. Who has already succeeded with PDf/image printing at 40 p _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 16-Sep-1998 13:23:56-GMT,1849;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA03406 for ; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 07:23:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA20773; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 08:06:56 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 16 Sep 1998 08:03:13 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA20391; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 08:03:06 -0500 Message-ID: <35FFB6AE.916F79DF@primeline.com> Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 09:01:35 -0400 From: Thomas Tveidt Organization: Market Potential Mapping X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Good PDF Book Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Greetings, Can anyone recommend a good book that: -Focuses on PDF desktop printing, -Covers some prepress issues -Has more "how to's" than "see references", -Is not thicker than the Bible -Can be understood by a very simple mind (mine). Thanks -- Thomas Tveidt MARKET POTENTIAL MAPPING PO Box 1602 Lake Junaluska NC 28745-1602 _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 16-Sep-1998 13:37:25-GMT,2900;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA03688 for ; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 07:37:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA21744; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 08:20:34 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 16 Sep 1998 08:16:57 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA21450; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 08:16:55 -0500 From: "MCS" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Good PDF Book Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 08:17:46 -0500 Message-ID: <000901bde174$65463dc0$523e5fcc@archetyp> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <35FFB6AE.916F79DF@primeline.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== I was happy with Adobe Press's Classroom in a Book for basic information. On a conceptual level for the industry From Paper to Web by Tony McKinley is very good, although it is somewhat light on how to. It is better at suggestions on various paths and why. Hope that helps somewhat Kevin Jackson triskelian design -----Original Message----- From: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com [mailto:owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com]On Behalf Of Thomas Tveidt Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 1998 8:02 AM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Good PDF Book ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Greetings, Can anyone recommend a good book that: -Focuses on PDF desktop printing, -Covers some prepress issues -Has more "how to's" than "see references", -Is not thicker than the Bible -Can be understood by a very simple mind (mine). Thanks -- Thomas Tveidt MARKET POTENTIAL MAPPING PO Box 1602 Lake Junaluska NC 28745-1602 _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 16-Sep-1998 13:44:42-GMT,3282;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA03830 for ; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 07:44:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA22293; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 08:29:33 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 16 Sep 1998 08:25:50 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA22038; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 08:25:47 -0500 Message-ID: From: Steve Ostiguy To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Good PDF Book Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 09:26:51 -0400 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Sorry, GATF! type error! >---------- >From: Steve Ostiguy >Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 1998 9:16 AM >To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' >Subject: RE: [PDF] Good PDF Book > > >====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== > >The GTAF's "The PDF Bible" is worth a look at. > > >Steve Ostiguy >Imaging Supervisor- >CtP Production >St. Joseph Printing Ltd. >sostiguy@stjoseph.com > > >>---------- >>From: Thomas Tveidt[SMTP:tveidt@primeline.com] >>Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 1998 9:01 AM >>To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com >>Subject: [PDF] Good PDF Book >> >> >>====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== >> >>Greetings, >> >>Can anyone recommend a good book that: >> >>-Focuses on PDF desktop printing, >>-Covers some prepress issues >>-Has more "how to's" than "see references", >>-Is not thicker than the Bible >>-Can be understood by a very simple mind (mine). >> >>Thanks >> >>-- >>Thomas Tveidt >>MARKET POTENTIAL MAPPING >>PO Box 1602 Lake Junaluska >>NC 28745-1602 >> >> >> >>_______________________________________________________ >> >>-> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- >>* http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * >>+ Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + >>_______________________________________________________ >> >> >> > >_______________________________________________________ > >-> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- >* http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * >+ Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + >_______________________________________________________ > > > _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 16-Sep-1998 15:59:29-GMT,3783;000000000000 Received: from multi7.netcomi.com (millercs@multi7.netcomi.com [204.58.155.207]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA07207 for ; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 09:59:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from millercs@localhost) by multi7.netcomi.com (8.8.5/8.7.4) id KAA16213; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 10:58:04 -0500 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by multi7.netcomi.com (8.8.5/8.7.4) with ESMTP id KAA16206 for ; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 10:58:03 -0500 Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA31633; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 10:49:36 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 16 Sep 1998 10:47:21 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA31353; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 10:47:17 -0500 From: "Nelson H. F. Beebe" Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 09:47:10 -0600 (MDT) Old-To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Cc: beebe@math.utah.edu X-US-Mail: "Center for Scientific Computing, Department of Mathematics, 322 INSCC, University of Utah, 155 S 1400 E RM 233, Salt Lake City, UT 84112-0090, USA" X-Telephone: +1 801 581 5254 X-FAX: +1 801 585 1640, +1 801 581 4148 X-URL: http://www.math.utah.edu/~beebe Subject: [PDF] More on Good PDF Book Message-ID: Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com X-Loop: forwarded by miller@performancegraphics.com To: millercs@earthlink.net ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Steve Ostiguy writing earlier today recommended the PDF Bible; with his help, and some Web searching, I've been able to find additional information about it which should be sufficient for those who want to order a copy: @Book{Witkowski:1998:PBC, author = "Mark Witkowski", title = "The {PDF Bible}: The Complete Guide to {Adobe Acrobat 3.0}", publisher = "GATFPress", address = "200 Deer Run Road, Sewickley, PA 15143-2600, USA. Telephone 412-741-6860, Fax 412-741-2311, Toll Free 1-800-662-3916", pages = "438", year = "1998", ISBN = "0-941845-23-0", LCCN = "????", bibdate = "Wed Sep 16 08:53:10 1998", URL = "http://www.bookbuyer.com/aisles/titles/834607.htm; http://www.gatf.lm.com/98-10.HTM", acknowledgement = ack-nhfb, annote = "Not yet in Library of Congress, University of California MEYLVYL, or OCLC WorldCat catalogs.", } ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- - Nelson H. F. Beebe Tel: +1 801 581 5254 - - Center for Scientific Computing FAX: +1 801 585 1640, +1 801 581 4148 - - University of Utah Internet e-mail: beebe@math.utah.edu - - Department of Mathematics, 322 INSCC beebe@acm.org - - 155 S 1400 E RM 233 beebe@ieee.org - - Salt Lake City, UT 84112-0090, USA URL: http://www.math.utah.edu/~beebe - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 16-Sep-1998 16:17:20-GMT,3373;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA07674 for ; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 10:17:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA31731; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 10:50:37 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 16 Sep 1998 10:47:21 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA31353; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 10:47:17 -0500 From: "Nelson H. F. Beebe" Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 09:47:10 -0600 (MDT) To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Cc: beebe@math.utah.edu X-US-Mail: "Center for Scientific Computing, Department of Mathematics, 322 INSCC, University of Utah, 155 S 1400 E RM 233, Salt Lake City, UT 84112-0090, USA" X-Telephone: +1 801 581 5254 X-FAX: +1 801 585 1640, +1 801 581 4148 X-URL: http://www.math.utah.edu/~beebe Subject: [PDF] More on Good PDF Book Message-ID: Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Steve Ostiguy writing earlier today recommended the PDF Bible; with his help, and some Web searching, I've been able to find additional information about it which should be sufficient for those who want to order a copy: @Book{Witkowski:1998:PBC, author = "Mark Witkowski", title = "The {PDF Bible}: The Complete Guide to {Adobe Acrobat 3.0}", publisher = "GATFPress", address = "200 Deer Run Road, Sewickley, PA 15143-2600, USA. Telephone 412-741-6860, Fax 412-741-2311, Toll Free 1-800-662-3916", pages = "438", year = "1998", ISBN = "0-941845-23-0", LCCN = "????", bibdate = "Wed Sep 16 08:53:10 1998", URL = "http://www.bookbuyer.com/aisles/titles/834607.htm; http://www.gatf.lm.com/98-10.HTM", acknowledgement = ack-nhfb, annote = "Not yet in Library of Congress, University of California MEYLVYL, or OCLC WorldCat catalogs.", } ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- - Nelson H. F. Beebe Tel: +1 801 581 5254 - - Center for Scientific Computing FAX: +1 801 585 1640, +1 801 581 4148 - - University of Utah Internet e-mail: beebe@math.utah.edu - - Department of Mathematics, 322 INSCC beebe@acm.org - - 155 S 1400 E RM 233 beebe@ieee.org - - Salt Lake City, UT 84112-0090, USA URL: http://www.math.utah.edu/~beebe - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 16-Sep-1998 16:21:07-GMT,1995;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA07762 for ; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 10:21:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA32383; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 11:00:33 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 16 Sep 1998 10:57:55 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA32133; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 10:57:54 -0500 From: JOEL.FINKLE@monsanto.com To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Search with Word Stemming Problems Message-Id: <"0916155631-Search with Word Stemming Problems"@MHS> Date: 16 Sep 1998 10:51:17 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== We have a 1.1GB collection of documents, indexed using catalog, and when searched with "Word Stemming" turned on, certain documents are not found. For example, the main TOC document, which constantly has "Document No." throughout it, is not findable with the word "Document". If stemming is turned off, it works fine. Anyone have a clue here? Joel Finkle Sr. Systems Project Leader G.D. Searle & Co. a Monsanto Company joel.finkle@monsanto.com _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 16-Sep-1998 16:36:08-GMT,1652;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA08151 for ; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 10:36:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA00841; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 11:18:02 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 16 Sep 1998 11:15:52 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA00674; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 11:15:50 -0500 Message-ID: <163D3E7606B6D011A00600005A40BFD20198344C@sgty9900.pgh.wec.com> From: "Pavol, Roberta A." To: "'pdflist'" Subject: [PDF] No. of Index limit Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 12:16:47 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Is there a limit to the number of Index files that can be loaded for searching in the Acrobat? Roberta Pavol 9/16/98 12:13 PM Source W pavolra@westinghouse.com _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 16-Sep-1998 17:21:43-GMT,3325;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA09515 for ; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 11:21:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA04430; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 11:57:25 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 16 Sep 1998 11:54:50 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA04143; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 11:54:48 -0500 Message-ID: From: Steve Ostiguy To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] PDF Bible Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 12:39:45 -0400 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Hi Karen, I have the book in my library and find it a useful addition. It is a very comprehensive and goes over all the applications and tools for Acrobat, also for many different OS systems. It talks about PDF settings, Digital file formats, Blah..Blah...Blah! Worth having! Nuf Said??? >---------- >From: Karen L Mibus[SMTP:Karen_L_Mibus@keybank.com] >Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 1998 12:11 PM >To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com >Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF Bible > > >====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== > > >I'm considering recommending that our division purchase the PDF Bible for >reference purposes. > >To those who have used this book: > >Does this book contain detailed information about creating PDF forms, >making interactive PDFs for training purposes, especially using FrameMaker >and PDFMark to layout buttons, forms, and other interactive features for >PDF documents? If it includes information about developing forms, does it >cover using Perl scripts, javascript, different browsers, etc.? > >What prepress information does the book include? > >Do you think the material included in this book will still be valuable even >if Adobe should decide to release a new version of Acrobat within a year? > >Please share your knowledge about any fantastic features that I can mention >to support the purchase of this book. > >Thanks in advance. > >--Karen > > > >_______________________________________________________ > >-> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- >* http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * >+ Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + >_______________________________________________________ > > > _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 16-Sep-1998 17:41:15-GMT,1727;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA10047 for ; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 11:41:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA06192; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 12:22:00 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 16 Sep 1998 12:19:29 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA06046; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 12:19:27 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: METLIFE@METLIFENET From: "Keith Mercatili" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <85256681.005F7896.00@MetMtaG2.metlife.com> Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 13:17:43 -0400 Subject: [PDF] FDF book Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Any know of a book that describes in detail the process of creating an FDF? I think Adobe's site is a little shaky when it comes to this. Or does anyone know of an example code to create an FDF to populate a PDF through a database? Keith _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 16-Sep-1998 18:02:19-GMT,1898;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA10642 for ; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 12:02:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA07767; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 12:43:15 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 16 Sep 1998 12:40:56 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA07598; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 12:40:55 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: KEYCORP From: "Karen L Mibus" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <85256681.0060B9D8.00@keybank.com> Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 13:37:50 -0400 Subject: [PDF] IFilter for Searching Across PDFs Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== To those who have installed the IFilter on NT Servers: Does the IFilter work on version IIS 4.0 and Index Server 2.0 and above? Do I have to write a different search page to implement the search? Does the sample search page (an active server page) work with the IFilter? How do I reindex Index Server? I want to know this to make sure I'm doing it right. I have checked the registry and everything seems to be in order. --Karen _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 16-Sep-1998 18:11:17-GMT,2942;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA10891 for ; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 12:11:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA08180; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 12:48:39 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 16 Sep 1998 12:46:25 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA07982; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 12:46:23 -0500 Message-ID: <005801bde198$e77190a0$b2c314d1@Prometheus.main> From: "Ian Lurie" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] FDF book Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 10:39:00 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Keith, I have a site that shows a sample of this: www.writtenword.com/acrobatforms I wrote some explanatory material, too. Note that the site has problems in IE4.0 because of the ActiveX control. Ideally, use Netscape... If you do want to use IE, make sure you download the most recent Acrobat Reader from Adobe, install it, and set your File Types (in Windows Explorer) for PDF and FDF to use AcroRead. Ian Lurie The Written Word, Inc. Information Design Online, On Paper, and On the Web http://www.writtenword.com -----Original Message----- From: Keith Mercatili To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: Wednesday, September 16, 1998 10:27 AM Subject: [PDF] FDF book > >====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== > > > >Any know of a book that describes in detail the process of creating an FDF? >I think Adobe's site is a little shaky when it comes to this. Or does >anyone know of an example code to create an FDF to populate a PDF through a >database? > >Keith > > > >_______________________________________________________ > >-> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- >* http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * >+ Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + >_______________________________________________________ > > > _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 16-Sep-1998 19:56:41-GMT,2663;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA13742 for ; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 13:56:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA14992; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 14:27:57 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 16 Sep 1998 14:25:02 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA14793; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 14:24:59 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: KEYCORP From: "Karen L Mibus" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <85256681.006A33CC.00@keybank.com> Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 15:21:52 -0400 Subject: Re: [PDF] IFilter for Searching Across PDFs Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Looks like I found answers to my own questions; however, my story doesn't have a happy ending. See http://www.tinaja.com/text/srchpdf.html and you'll know what I mean! -Karen Karen_L_Mibus@keybank.com on 09/16/98 01:37:50 PM Please respond to pdf@lists.pdfzone.com To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com cc: (bcc: Karen L Mibus/NE/KSC/KeyCorp) Subject: [PDF] IFilter for Searching Across PDFs ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== To those who have installed the IFilter on NT Servers: Does the IFilter work on version IIS 4.0 and Index Server 2.0 and above? Do I have to write a different search page to implement the search? Does the sample search page (an active server page) work with the IFilter? How do I reindex Index Server? I want to know this to make sure I'm doing it right. I have checked the registry and everything seems to be in order. --Karen _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 16-Sep-1998 20:06:30-GMT,1604;000000000001 Received: from dkuug.dk (ptah.dkuug.dk [195.215.30.66]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA14007 for ; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 14:06:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by dkuug.dk (8.8.7/8.8.7) id VAA15192 for SC22WG14-list; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 21:50:38 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from SC22WG14-request) Message-Id: <199809161950.VAA15192@dkuug.dk> Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 20:23:28 +0100 Cc: "- (052)sc22wg14(a)dkuug.dk" From: Francis Glassborow X-Sequence: SC22WG14@dkuug.dk 6157 Errors-To: SC22WG14-request@dkuug.dk Subject: (SC22WG14.6157) (SC22WG14.6152) UCHAR_MAX < INT_MAX (Was: N8 In-Reply-To: <199809161746.TAA13873@dkuug.dk> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike (32) Version 3.05 In message <199809161746.TAA13873@dkuug.dk>, WILLIAM SEYMOUR writes >I can't think of any way to specify that UCHAR_MAX < INT_MAX >as long as sizeof(int) is allowed to be 1; but that's no >excuse for an implementation not having an EOF that's not >a valid char, even if char is unsigned char, because that's >a completely separate requirement. Exactly, even if sizeof(int) == 1 that does not mean that both have the same number of active bits. For example int could use 16 bits and char could use 15. Now there are plenty of spare codes for such things as EOF. Francis Glassborow Chair of Association of C & C++ Users 64 Southfield Rd Oxford OX4 1PA +44(0)1865 246490 All opinions are mine and do not represent those of any organisation 16-Sep-1998 20:48:38-GMT,3562;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA15008 for ; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 14:48:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA18227; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 15:17:59 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 16 Sep 1998 15:15:36 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA18077; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 15:15:33 -0500 Message-ID: <01BDE18D.5F1B39A0.kwagner@ridgways.com> From: Kevin Wagner To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] IFilter for Searching Across PDFs Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 16:16:32 -0400 Organization: Ridgway's X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Karen there is as small 8(a) company in Fairfax VA that has done several large and very successful integrations of Ifilter etc. The company is emw incorporated. Tony Bui is the President and his number is (703) 273-5801. -----Original Message----- From: Karen L Mibus [SMTP:Karen_L_Mibus@keybank.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 1998 3:22 PM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] IFilter for Searching Across PDFs ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Looks like I found answers to my own questions; however, my story doesn't have a happy ending. See http://www.tinaja.com/text/srchpdf.html and you'll know what I mean! -Karen Karen_L_Mibus@keybank.com on 09/16/98 01:37:50 PM Please respond to pdf@lists.pdfzone.com To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com cc: (bcc: Karen L Mibus/NE/KSC/KeyCorp) Subject: [PDF] IFilter for Searching Across PDFs ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== To those who have installed the IFilter on NT Servers: Does the IFilter work on version IIS 4.0 and Index Server 2.0 and above? Do I have to write a different search page to implement the search? Does the sample search page (an active server page) work with the IFilter? How do I reindex Index Server? I want to know this to make sure I'm doing it right. I have checked the registry and everything seems to be in order. --Karen _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 16-Sep-1998 21:31:31-GMT,2756;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA16101 for ; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 15:31:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA20903; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 16:04:06 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 16 Sep 1998 16:01:21 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA20744; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 16:01:20 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: kfoss@mailbag.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 15:59:42 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Kurt Foss Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF Bible Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== According to Amazon, it's shipping within 24 hours; "The PDF Bible" listed on the PDFzone Bookshelf: http://www.pdfzone.com/products/pdfbookshelf/ ~ Kurt === >Does this book contain detailed information about creating PDF forms, >making interactive PDFs for training purposes, especially using FrameMaker >and PDFMark to layout buttons, forms, and other interactive features for >PDF documents? If it includes information about developing forms, does it >cover using Perl scripts, javascript, different browsers, etc.? > >What prepress information does the book include? > >Do you think the material included in this book will still be valuable even >if Adobe should decide to release a new version of Acrobat within a year? > >Please share your knowledge about any fantastic features that I can mention >to support the purchase of this book. __________________________________________________ * T h e P D F z o n e * __________________________________________________ (800)829-2459 (608)829-3454 579 D'Onofrio Dr. FAX: (608)829-3561 Suite 101 EMAIL: mailto:info@pdfzone.com Madison, WI 53719 WWW: http://www.pdfzone.com ------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 16-Sep-1998 23:06:00-GMT,1551;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA18691 for ; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 17:06:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA27238; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 17:43:07 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 16 Sep 1998 17:40:19 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA26973; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 17:40:12 -0500 Message-ID: <55AD9151A911D211B3CC0008C7F41374046A71@SEGIEXCH2> From: "Ware, Mark" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Convert to Word DOC Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 15:43:06 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Are there any tools that will convert a PDF into a Word Document? _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 16-Sep-1998 13:39:17-GMT,2688;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA03704 for ; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 07:39:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA21648; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 08:19:30 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 16 Sep 1998 08:15:44 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA21381; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 08:15:41 -0500 Message-ID: From: Steve Ostiguy To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Good PDF Book Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 09:16:44 -0400 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== The GTAF's "The PDF Bible" is worth a look at. Steve Ostiguy Imaging Supervisor- CtP Production St. Joseph Printing Ltd. sostiguy@stjoseph.com >---------- >From: Thomas Tveidt[SMTP:tveidt@primeline.com] >Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 1998 9:01 AM >To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com >Subject: [PDF] Good PDF Book > > >====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== > >Greetings, > >Can anyone recommend a good book that: > >-Focuses on PDF desktop printing, >-Covers some prepress issues >-Has more "how to's" than "see references", >-Is not thicker than the Bible >-Can be understood by a very simple mind (mine). > >Thanks > >-- >Thomas Tveidt >MARKET POTENTIAL MAPPING >PO Box 1602 Lake Junaluska >NC 28745-1602 > > > >_______________________________________________________ > >-> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- >* http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * >+ Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + >_______________________________________________________ > > > _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 16-Sep-1998 14:48:59-GMT,2940;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA05352 for ; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 08:48:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA25729; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 09:25:20 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 16 Sep 1998 09:21:02 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA25456; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 09:20:58 -0500 Message-Id: <199809161420.HAA25811@tern.prod.itd.earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.0c (197) Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 07:24:25 -0800 Subject: Re: [PDF] Good PDF Book From: "C. Scott Miller" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== >Can anyone recommend a good book that: > >-Focuses on PDF desktop printing, >-Covers some prepress issues >-Has more "how to's" than "see references", >-Is not thicker than the Bible >-Can be understood by a very simple mind (mine). The first really good overview book is RIT Frank Romano's PDF Printing and Publishing (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0941845222/qid%3D905955098/002-11041 03-2057202). So good, in fact, that it is temporarily out of stock. Tony McKinley's book (From Paper to Web) is chock full of information but has nothing to do with Printing or Pre-Press, per se (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1568303459/qid%3D905955240/002-11041 03-2057202). It is viewable in its entirety on line (and its numerous links actually work on the on-line version - http://imagebiz.com/PaperWeb/INDEX.HTM). The PDF Bible is at Amazon at http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0941845230/qid%3D905955390/002-110410 3-2057202. It is a bible at 450 pages. I have 60 PDF how-to's at my site, virtually none dealling with Pre-Press directly, but they are yours for the browsing (http://www.performancegraphics.com/Pages/howto1.html). Hope this helps, C. Scott Miller PDF R_e_s_e_a_r_c_h__C_o_m_p_a_n_i_o_n A Designer's Guide to Adobe's Portable Document Format http://www.performancegraphics.com a production of Performance Graphics miller@performancegraphics.com _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 16-Sep-1998 15:47:12-GMT,2515;000000000001 Received: from plot79.math.utah.edu (beebe@plot79.math.utah.edu [155.101.20.21]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA06843; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 09:47:11 -0600 (MDT) From: "Nelson H. F. Beebe" Received: (from beebe@localhost) by plot79.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA19492; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 09:47:10 -0600 (MDT) Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 09:47:10 -0600 (MDT) To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Cc: beebe@math.utah.edu X-US-Mail: "Center for Scientific Computing, Department of Mathematics, 322 INSCC, University of Utah, 155 S 1400 E RM 233, Salt Lake City, UT 84112-0090, USA" X-Telephone: +1 801 581 5254 X-FAX: +1 801 585 1640, +1 801 581 4148 X-URL: http://www.math.utah.edu/~beebe Subject: More on Good PDF Book Message-ID: Steve Ostiguy writing earlier today recommended the PDF Bible; with his help, and some Web searching, I've been able to find additional information about it which should be sufficient for those who want to order a copy: @Book{Witkowski:1998:PBC, author = "Mark Witkowski", title = "The {PDF Bible}: The Complete Guide to {Adobe Acrobat 3.0}", publisher = "GATFPress", address = "200 Deer Run Road, Sewickley, PA 15143-2600, USA. Telephone 412-741-6860, Fax 412-741-2311, Toll Free 1-800-662-3916", pages = "438", year = "1998", ISBN = "0-941845-23-0", LCCN = "????", bibdate = "Wed Sep 16 08:53:10 1998", URL = "http://www.bookbuyer.com/aisles/titles/834607.htm; http://www.gatf.lm.com/98-10.HTM", acknowledgement = ack-nhfb, annote = "Not yet in Library of Congress, University of California MEYLVYL, or OCLC WorldCat catalogs.", } ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- - Nelson H. F. Beebe Tel: +1 801 581 5254 - - Center for Scientific Computing FAX: +1 801 585 1640, +1 801 581 4148 - - University of Utah Internet e-mail: beebe@math.utah.edu - - Department of Mathematics, 322 INSCC beebe@acm.org - - 155 S 1400 E RM 233 beebe@ieee.org - - Salt Lake City, UT 84112-0090, USA URL: http://www.math.utah.edu/~beebe - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 16-Sep-1998 16:36:50-GMT,2275;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA08176 for ; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 10:36:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA00771; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 11:17:00 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 16 Sep 1998 11:14:43 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA00530; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 11:14:41 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: KEYCORP From: "Karen L Mibus" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <85256681.0057EA69.00@keybank.com> Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 12:11:32 -0400 Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF Bible Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== I'm considering recommending that our division purchase the PDF Bible for reference purposes. To those who have used this book: Does this book contain detailed information about creating PDF forms, making interactive PDFs for training purposes, especially using FrameMaker and PDFMark to layout buttons, forms, and other interactive features for PDF documents? If it includes information about developing forms, does it cover using Perl scripts, javascript, different browsers, etc.? What prepress information does the book include? Do you think the material included in this book will still be valuable even if Adobe should decide to release a new version of Acrobat within a year? Please share your knowledge about any fantastic features that I can mention to support the purchase of this book. Thanks in advance. --Karen _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 17-Sep-1998 0:42:20-GMT,2485;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA20620 for ; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 18:42:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA32117; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 19:19:16 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 16 Sep 1998 19:16:36 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA31938; Wed, 16 Sep 1998 19:16:35 -0500 Message-ID: <36006332.1B31BB6F@empa.ch> Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 02:17:40 +0100 From: Erwin Widmer Organization: EMPA X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5b1 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: de-CH, en-US MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Good PDF Book References: <35FFB6AE.916F79DF@primeline.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Thomas, Pick a book of the following list: http://www.adobe.com/prodindex/acrobat/books.html Erwin Thomas Tveidt wrote: > ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== > > Greetings, > > Can anyone recommend a good book that: > > -Focuses on PDF desktop printing, > -Covers some prepress issues > -Has more "how to's" than "see references", > -Is not thicker than the Bible > -Can be understood by a very simple mind (mine). > > Thanks > > -- > Thomas Tveidt > MARKET POTENTIAL MAPPING > PO Box 1602 Lake Junaluska > NC 28745-1602 > > _______________________________________________________ > > -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- > * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * > + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + > _______________________________________________________ > _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 17-Sep-1998 7:31:19-GMT,3310;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA29104 for ; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 01:31:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA16501; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 02:07:46 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 17 Sep 1998 02:04:55 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA16360; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 02:04:54 -0500 Message-Id: <98Sep17.090440gmt+0200.29569-1@baz-s-fw.baz.ch> From: Yannick Wolf To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Cc: "'Karen_L_Mibus@keybank.com'" Subject: [PDF] Re:PDF] IFilter for Searching Across PDFs Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 09:04:18 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id CAA16355 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Hi Karen, We are running IIS 4.0 + Index Server 2.0 + PDF IFilter 1.1b. It was tricky to make it work, but now it works like a charm. Do the following: 1- Be sure to download the last version (1.1b) of the pdf IFilter, 2- Stop the services, 3- Install PDF Filter 1.1b, 4- Manually add "pdffilt.dll" to the following key in the registry: HEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\system\CurrentControlSet\Control\ContentIndex\DllsToRegister 5- Start again your services, and reindex your pdf files (In the Index Server Management Console, right click on your pdf directory, and select "Rescan") We have used the standard sample search page, without any problems... And then it works!!! Feel free to email me if you encounter problems Hope it helps, Yannick ===================== Yannick Wolf PDF Team BMG ComServ Das Softwarehaus der Basler Mediengruppe Hochbergerstrasse 15 CH-4002 Basel, Postfach Tel :++4161 639 16 84 Fax :++4161 631 53 10 Mail : y.wolf@baz.ch ===================== ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 13:37:50 -0400 From: "Karen L Mibus" Subject: [PDF] IFilter for Searching Across PDFs ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== To those who have installed the IFilter on NT Servers: Does the IFilter work on version IIS 4.0 and Index Server 2.0 and above? Do I have to write a different search page to implement the search? Does the sample search page (an active server page) work with the IFilter? How do I reindex Index Server? I want to know this to make sure I'm doing it right. I have checked the registry and everything seems to be in order. - --Karen _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 17-Sep-1998 7:51:00-GMT,2458;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA29439 for ; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 01:50:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA17653; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 02:39:56 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 17 Sep 1998 02:37:39 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA17562; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 02:37:38 -0500 From: "Jan Hillmer" To: Subject: AW: [PDF] Convert to Word DOC Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 09:36:53 +0200 Message-ID: <000001bde20d$f0923d90$0c35a8c0@nt-server.hh.provi.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-Reply-To: <55AD9151A911D211B3CC0008C7F41374046A71@SEGIEXCH2> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Mark, with Aerial from Ambia you can convert pdf to Rich Text Format. Jan -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com [mailto:owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com] im Auftrag von Ware, Mark Gesendet am: Donnerstag, 17. September 1998 00:43 An: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' Betreff: [PDF] Convert to Word DOC ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Are there any tools that will convert a PDF into a Word Document? _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 17-Sep-1998 9:30:18-GMT,2649;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA01478 for ; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 03:30:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA20636; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 04:05:59 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 17 Sep 1998 04:00:35 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA20419; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 04:00:34 -0500 From: Petr.Fexa@WIEN.Materna.DE Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 10:59:24 +0200 Alternate-Recipient: Allowed Message-ID: To: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com, pdf@lists.pdfzone.com In-Reply-To: <000001bdcd9e$78366700$8f4b3cc3@blackjack> Subject: [PDF] Printing with OCX? Importance: Low X-Mailer: DX-MAIL V2.21 (DX-MAIL X.400/MIME-Switch V2.02) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="meqDGePUKU6r9gwu3pwp0HtrUNigLL3a" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== --meqDGePUKU6r9gwu3pwp0HtrUNigLL3a Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Hi PDF Fans! I have to develop the following program: The program should be able to print a PDF-file, which is choosen from a lis= tbox (which I implement). I imagine to acomplish this task by using the AcrobatOCX, but this OCX shou= ld not be visible itself. Therefor the Print-Button of the OCX can not be used. By other words, I want to implement my "own print button" and then I want to use the print facility of the OCX "in the background" (i.e. in a way which is not visible to the user). It is absolutely important that it works with both Reader and Exchange. Many thanks in advance for help petr.fexa@wien.materna.de = --meqDGePUKU6r9gwu3pwp0HtrUNigLL3a Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable IDENTIFIKATIONSANGABEN: a15333a.txt IA5 DX-MAIL X.400 User Agent= --meqDGePUKU6r9gwu3pwp0HtrUNigLL3a-- _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 17-Sep-1998 12:07:28-GMT,2341;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA04344 for ; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 06:07:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA25920; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 06:42:43 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 17 Sep 1998 06:31:30 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA25427; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 06:31:28 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Printing with OCX? Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 11:20:20 +0100 Message-ID: <000b01bde22e$89efa980$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== > > The program should be able to print a PDF-file, which is > choosen from a listbox > (which I implement). > I imagine to acomplish this task by using the AcrobatOCX, but > this OCX should > not be visible itself. > Therefor the Print-Button of the OCX can not be used. > By other words, I want to implement my "own print button" > and then I want to use the print facility of the OCX > "in the background" (i.e. in a way which is not visible to the user). Forget the OCX, which is only for use with Internet Explorer. Print using the ShellExecute API call. (Note that the user will get the print dialog box). Aandi _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 17-Sep-1998 19:26:16-GMT,1785;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA15404 for ; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 13:26:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA17047; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 14:06:22 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 17 Sep 1998 14:02:05 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA16748; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 14:02:02 -0500 Message-ID: From: Nathan Keller To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] getting back to acd Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 12:02:10 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Hi, I have pdfs which contain pictures and/or lines and we would like to remove them. How can we do this? Anyone know how to go from a pdf back to acd files? TIA. Sincerely, Nathan Keller Technical Support Career Guidance Foundation nathank@cgf.org (800) 854-2670 http://www.collegesource.org _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 17-Sep-1998 20:22:52-GMT,2540;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA16825 for ; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 14:22:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA20260; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 15:00:13 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 17 Sep 1998 14:57:51 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA20069; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 14:57:49 -0500 Message-ID: From: Duff Johnson To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] getting back to acd Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 13:01:21 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== If it's I+T, recapture it. If it's Normal, you'll have to rescan and reCapture. Duff Johnson President, Document Solutions, Inc. > -----Original Message----- > From: Nathan Keller [mailto:NATHANK@CGF.ORG] > Sent: Thursday, September 17, 1998 12:02 PM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: [PDF] getting back to acd > > > > ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== > > Hi, > > I have pdfs which contain pictures and/or lines and we would > like to remove > them. How can we do this? Anyone know how to go from a pdf back to acd > files? TIA. > > Sincerely, > > Nathan Keller > Technical Support > Career Guidance Foundation > nathank@cgf.org > (800) 854-2670 > http://www.collegesource.org > > > > _______________________________________________________ > > -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- > * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * > + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + > _______________________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 17-Sep-1998 20:53:58-GMT,2067;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA17561 for ; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 14:53:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA22343; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 15:35:05 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 17 Sep 1998 15:32:22 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA22134; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 15:32:21 -0500 Message-ID: From: Nathan Keller To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] getting back to acd Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 13:32:29 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== The document in this case is 10,535 KB. The Quite A Box Of Tricks plug-in reduces the file to 9590 KB. Typically after we Capture a document we remove pictures and outlines/lines in Reviewer. In some cases we take in a PDF instead on the hard copy. We need an automated approach to removing these elements. Reprinting to 600 plus pages of hardcopy every time we get in one of these pdfs is not a considerable option. What else could we do? >If it's I+T, recapture it. If it's Normal, you'll have to rescan and >reCapture. >Duff Johnson >President, Document Solutions, Inc. _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 17-Sep-1998 21:06:45-GMT,2115;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA17936 for ; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 15:06:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA22894; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 15:45:36 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 17 Sep 1998 15:43:18 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA22744; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 15:43:17 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Epps, Fred W" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Convert to Word DOC Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 13:37:07 -0700 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Mark wrote: > Are there any tools that will convert a PDF into a Word Document? > Jan replied: With Aerial from Ambia you can convert pdf to Rich Text Format. > Am I missing something? > > In Adobe Acrobat Exchange 3.01 under "Edit" I find "Copy File to > Clipboard" > > Then I open Word 8.0 (Word 97) and under "File" I pick "New" followed > by picking "Paste" under "Edit" > > My understanding is that in Windows 95 what I put on the clip board is > in RTF -- why would I buy a plug-in to do this? > > Mac may be different, but I forget where this thread started. > Fred _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 17-Sep-1998 21:27:12-GMT,2938;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA18566 for ; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 15:27:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA24208; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 16:07:43 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 17 Sep 1998 16:05:05 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA23998; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 16:05:02 -0500 Message-ID: From: Duff Johnson To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] getting back to acd Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 14:08:35 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Well... is the PDF I+T or not? Sounds like Normal from the page count / sizes given... If so, you could try printing to postscript, then converting to TIFF... easier than re-printing. Duff Johnson President, Document Solutions, Inc. > -----Original Message----- > From: Nathan Keller [mailto:NATHANK@CGF.ORG] > Sent: Thursday, September 17, 1998 1:32 PM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: RE: [PDF] getting back to acd > > > > ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== > > The document in this case is 10,535 KB. The Quite A Box Of > Tricks plug-in > reduces the file to 9590 KB. Typically after we Capture a > document we remove > pictures and outlines/lines in Reviewer. In some cases we > take in a PDF > instead on the hard copy. We need an automated approach to > removing these > elements. Reprinting to 600 plus pages of hardcopy every time > we get in one > of these pdfs is not a considerable option. > > What else could we do? > > >If it's I+T, recapture it. If it's Normal, you'll have to rescan and > >reCapture. > > >Duff Johnson > >President, Document Solutions, Inc. > > > > _______________________________________________________ > > -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- > * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * > + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + > _______________________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 17-Sep-1998 22:34:14-GMT,2061;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA20326 for ; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 16:34:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA28647; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 17:19:54 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 17 Sep 1998 17:15:53 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA28410; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 17:15:51 -0500 Message-ID: From: Nathan Keller To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] getting back to acd Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 15:15:54 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== I confess I don't know if it is PDF I+T or not. When I save it I save it as a regular PDF. It is a 600 page text with some bitmaps and pictures in it. How do I convert to TIFF? What program do I use? Thanks. Nathan Keller Technical Support Career Guidance Foundation nathank@cgf.org (800) 854-2670 http://www.collegesource.org Well... is the PDF I+T or not? Sounds like Normal from the page count / sizes given... If so, you could try printing to postscript, then converting to TIFF... easier than re-printing. Duff Johnson President, Document Solutions, Inc. _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 17-Sep-1998 23:36:34-GMT,2158;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA21731 for ; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 17:36:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA31689; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 18:20:56 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 17 Sep 1998 18:18:09 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA31479; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 18:18:05 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Livingston, Thomas S" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Macintosh and .wav files Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 16:08:28 -0700 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== A workmate of mine (using a Macintosh) is trying to set the page action to play a .wav file for a PDF presentation. On the PC, I can add a .wav file. However, on his Macintosh, when he opens the folder that has the .wav file he wants to use, there are no files that he can select. It appears that he cannot select a .wav file even though the Online help says that the Macintosh should be able to select this type of file. He downloaded the Forms 3.5 update from the Adobe site, so we are working with the latest Forms plug-in. Any ideas other than doing the work on the PC? Tom Livingston FlightSafety Boeing _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 17-Sep-1998 23:37:06-GMT,2373;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA21737 for ; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 17:37:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA31744; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 18:21:58 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 17 Sep 1998 18:19:47 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA31568; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 18:19:46 -0500 X-Sender: prodok@pop.eunet.ch Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 00:17:36 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Max Wyss Subject: Re: [PDF] getting back to acd Cc: Nathan Keller Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Nathan, It is possible to edit graphic elements in a PDF file with the Pitstop plug-in for Exchange by Enfocus (http://www.enfocus.com). If you have a way to convert EPS to acd, you could use an illustration program, such as Adobe Illustrator, to create an EPS which you can process further. Hope, this can help. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering AG Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Phone: +41 1 700 29 21 Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch WWW: http://www.prodok.ch/prodok Bridging the Knowledge Gap ______________________ >Hi, > >I have pdfs which contain pictures and/or lines and we would like to remove >them. How can we do this? Anyone know how to go from a pdf back to acd >files? TIA. > >Sincerely, > >Nathan Keller _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 17-Sep-1998 23:45:22-GMT,2393;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA21928 for ; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 17:45:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA32521; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 18:36:52 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 17 Sep 1998 18:34:31 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA32381; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 18:34:28 -0500 From: "MCS" To: Subject: [PDF] Screen Cam, Camcorder Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 18:35:24 -0500 Message-ID: <000001bde293$d7af4620$523e5fcc@archetyp> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== I'm the one who asked about Flash previously and wondered if any of you have incorporated Lotus ScreenCam or Microsoft Camcorder files into PDF files. We are doing training materials on 95 and are trying to get some screen cam shots as a walk through (Preferrably with sound which we would like to add either during or after the screen cam shooting) If there is another program any of you would recommend let me know. One thing we've noticed so far is that the Screencam files look to be about 4 times the size of CamCorder files. Is there a commercial product that works as well or better than either of these? Anyone have any experience or suggestions? Kevin Jackson triskelian design archetyp@mcs.com _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 17-Sep-1998 16:44:33-GMT,2160;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA11070 for ; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 10:44:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA03619; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 10:05:43 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 17 Sep 1998 10:00:05 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA03235; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 10:00:02 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.32.19980917110216.009dfa60@mailman.epnet.com> X-Sender: alindsay@mailman.epnet.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 11:02:19 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: alindsay@mailman.epnet.com (Andrew Lindsay) Subject: Re: [PDF] Good PDF Book Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== I think Thomas Merz's book "PostScript & Acrobat/PDF" is one of the bestbooks on PDF and DTP/prepress issues -- really in-depth but not overly technical (definitelty sub-programming level), but deals with all sorts of nuts-and-bolts issues: colorspace,DCS, screen functions, font issues, cross-platform issues, Ghostscript. Includes CD with lots of good stuff. Springer-Verlag, 1997. Hardback Also v. good, except focussing on web issues, is Merz's new book "Web Publishing with Acrobat/PDF," Springer-Verlag, 1998. Paperback. Andrew Lindsay Technical Manager - Electronic Publishing EBSCO Publishing Ipswich, MA 01938 (978) 356-6500 x268 _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 18-Sep-1998 0:33:54-GMT,2065;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA23064 for ; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 18:33:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA02066; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 19:20:39 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 17 Sep 1998 19:18:27 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA01918; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 19:18:25 -0500 Message-ID: <002401bde29a$179f51c0$31af5c18@708714231.tampabay.rr.com> From: "Chris Lane" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] Macintosh and .wav files Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 20:20:05 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Tom Livingston wrote > on his Macintosh, when he opens the folder that has the >.wav file he wants to use, there are no files that he can select. Could be that the file does not have the proper Mac attributes. If you have any sound programs on the Mac, try opening the file in the sound program and then do a Save As and save it back out at a wav. Then see if the Mac Acrobat recognizes it. Chris Lane Computer Multimeida Produtions Corp. _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 18-Sep-1998 0:34:26-GMT,3133;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA23071 for ; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 18:34:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA01868; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 19:17:27 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 17 Sep 1998 19:14:38 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA01699; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 19:14:36 -0500 Message-ID: <36023282.F2B660ED@realworld.com.au> Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 10:14:27 +0000 From: Dean Laffan X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Macintosh and .wav files References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Livingston, Thomas S wrote: > ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== > > A workmate of mine (using a Macintosh) is trying to set the page action > to play a .wav file for a PDF presentation. On the PC, I can add a .wav > file. However, on his Macintosh, when he opens the folder that has the > .wav file he wants to use, there are no files that he can select. It > appears that he cannot select a .wav file even though the Online help > says that the Macintosh should be able to select this type of file. He > downloaded the Forms 3.5 update from the Adobe site, so we are working > with the latest Forms plug-in. > > Any ideas other than doing the work on the PC? Hi Tom, I have just done some tests and found the following: Mac OS8.1 Exchange 3.01 I can see and select a .wav file on the mac. But when I tried to OK the selection in Set Page action it caused my system to freeze. I then tried playing it using a link tool and it crashed again with an eror type -41. I can play the .wav file fine from the finder by double clicking it which opens with Quicktime (3.0 Pro version) As a workaround, I opened the file .wav file in Sound Edit on the Mac(You could use anything on the Mac or PC) and saved as an .aif, which then worked fine via both a page open and link tool. if you don't have tons of sound files to process, this will get you out of trouble. Have you checked the adobe archives for known bugs on this issue ? Dean Laffan Real World Productions _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 18-Sep-1998 2:15:28-GMT,3436;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA25252 for ; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 20:15:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA06040; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 20:52:38 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 17 Sep 1998 20:49:35 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA05877; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 20:49:34 -0500 Message-ID: From: Duff Johnson To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] getting back to acd Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 18:53:11 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== If you really need ACD-type of control over your editing (as opposed to Illustrator or PitStop, which can be tedious, not that ACD isn't - well, I'm confusion the issue... OK. How many edits do you really want to make anyhow? If it's a few, here and there, Illustrator or Pitstop may be a good way to go. (Except that PitStop will likely barf on your large file - it seems to hate anything much over 100 pages and 3-4 MB) If you feel compelled to reCapture and go the ACD route - because the editor is fairly quick and reliable, and you have lots and lots of edits --- the simplest thing to do is print, scan and Capture. I've never actually taken a PS to TIFF myself - never had the need Transverter Pro claims to do it. > -----Original Message----- > From: Nathan Keller [mailto:NATHANK@CGF.ORG] > Sent: Thursday, September 17, 1998 3:16 PM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: RE: [PDF] getting back to acd > > > > ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== > > I confess I don't know if it is PDF I+T or not. When I save > it I save it as > a regular PDF. It is a 600 page text with some bitmaps and > pictures in it. > > How do I convert to TIFF? What program do I use? > > Thanks. > > Nathan Keller > Technical Support > Career Guidance Foundation > nathank@cgf.org > (800) 854-2670 > http://www.collegesource.org > > > > Well... is the PDF I+T or not? Sounds like Normal from the > page count / > sizes given... > > If so, you could try printing to postscript, then converting > to TIFF... > easier than re-printing. > > Duff Johnson > President, Document Solutions, Inc. > > _______________________________________________________ > > -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- > * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * > + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + > _______________________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 18-Sep-1998 4:54:41-GMT,1861;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA28713 for ; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 22:54:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA11966; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 23:29:17 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 17 Sep 1998 23:26:28 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA11809; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 23:26:26 -0500 X-ROUTED: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 00:27:24 -0500 Message-ID: <3601DFFD.D32F5C60@eisolutions.com> Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 00:22:21 -0400 From: Michael Stearne Organization: EIS, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5b2 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "pdf@lists.pdfzone.com" Subject: [PDF] Creating PS Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== I know this isn't exactly the list but how can I create (on windows) a postscript file. Not PDF, but a PS file that can be distilled. I don't have a PS printer, is there a plug in or an application that emulates a PS printer driver? Thanks, Michael Stearne _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 18-Sep-1998 5:57:37-GMT,2543;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA00029 for ; Thu, 17 Sep 1998 23:57:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA14435; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 00:36:37 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 18 Sep 1998 00:33:13 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA14302; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 00:33:10 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Wraight, David D." To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Creating PS Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 13:37:10 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Michael, You don't need the hardware to generate a PS file, and there's a couple of different approaches you can take for this but here's a quick one. Install a printer from Control Panels, but select a Postscript compatible printer (preferably not a HP brand), try something like an Apple LaserWriter 810 or something similar .. Once installed all you need to do to create the PS file is print normally, print using the print driver selected but select the 'Print To File' option where ever available. All apps will have this option. Hopefully I havent missed anything there (anyone??) and hopefully this will actually help rather than send you backwards.. d.................................. > ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== > > I know this isn't exactly the list but how can I create (on windows) a > postscript file. Not PDF, but a PS file that can be distilled. I > don't > have a PS printer, is there a plug in or an application that emulates > a > PS printer driver? > > _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 18-Sep-1998 6:21:55-GMT,2710;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA00938 for ; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 00:21:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA15567; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 01:09:38 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 18 Sep 1998 01:08:44 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA15495; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 01:08:43 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Epps, Fred W" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Creating PS Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 23:08:06 -0700 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Go to the Adobe web site (or if you have Acrobat 3.0 CD with Exchange and Distiller) and find a Printer Driver called ADOBEPS4 or Adobe PostScript Printer Driver 4.2.3, and Adistill.PPD. Install the driver and use the PPD and when the installer asks for a 'port' use File. Fred Fred.W.Epps@Boeing.com > ---------- > From: Michael Stearne[SMTP:mstearne@eisolutions.com] > Reply To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Sent: Thursday, September 17, 1998 9:22 PM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: [PDF] Creating PS > > > ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== > > I know this isn't exactly the list but how can I create (on windows) a > postscript file. Not PDF, but a PS file that can be distilled. I > don't > have a PS printer, is there a plug in or an application that emulates > a > PS printer driver? > > Thanks, > Michael Stearne > > > > > > _______________________________________________________ > > -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- > * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * > + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + > _______________________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 18-Sep-1998 6:30:27-GMT,2261;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA01127 for ; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 00:30:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA15717; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 01:12:10 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 18 Sep 1998 01:11:21 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA15650; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 01:11:19 -0500 Message-ID: <3601C0C9.F556D8D2@stratos.net> Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 02:09:15 +0000 From: Michael Desavoy Organization: Computer Renaissance X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Size does matter! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Finally, after months of waiting for a worthy project , I have expressed another pdf. However I am dismayed with the size of the resulting document. The file a PageMaker 6.5 document with a saved state file size of 221K. Using the PDF Writer increased the size of the document to a little less than 1 meg. There is a graphic element in the lead page: an eps grayscale element which I created in Illustrator. I used run length compression in the conversion process. I have also tried distilling with the same result...a larger file. I feel I have over looked something ; would someone please give me a clue as to what this may be? Michael DeSavoy MacMike Glenhollow Computer Renaissance _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 18-Sep-1998 6:31:13-GMT,3266;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA01149 for ; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 00:31:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA15953; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 01:16:30 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 18 Sep 1998 01:15:39 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA15904; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 01:15:38 -0500 X-ROUTED: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 02:16:36 -0500 Message-ID: <3601FAA7.EBB53422@eisolutions.com> Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 02:16:08 -0400 From: Michael Stearne Organization: EIS, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5b2 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Creating PS References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== That Worked! But.... For some reason after I distill the PS file the bitmapped images are in grayscale. The other colors in the file are intact. For example I printed http://home.netscape.com/ to file from Netscape to Apple LaserWriter 810. Then distilled that file. When I view the PDF, the Netcenter logo and other gif (or jpgs) are grayscale but the date and other colors are fine. Any ideas? Thanks again, Michael Stearne "Wraight, David D." wrote: > ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== > > Michael, > > You don't need the hardware to generate a PS file, and there's a couple > of different approaches you can take for this but here's a quick one. > > Install a printer from Control Panels, but select a Postscript > compatible printer (preferably not a HP brand), try something like an > Apple LaserWriter 810 or something similar .. > > Once installed all you need to do to create the PS file is print > normally, print using the print driver selected but select the 'Print To > File' option where ever available. All apps will have this option. > > Hopefully I havent missed anything there (anyone??) and hopefully this > will actually help rather than send you backwards.. > > d.................................. > > > ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== > > > > I know this isn't exactly the list but how can I create (on windows) a > > postscript file. Not PDF, but a PS file that can be distilled. I > > don't > > have a PS printer, is there a plug in or an application that emulates > > a > > PS printer driver? > > > > > _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 18-Sep-1998 7:06:18-GMT,3499;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA01847 for ; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 01:06:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA17026; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 01:48:19 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 18 Sep 1998 01:47:12 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA16949; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 01:47:07 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Wraight, David D." To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Creating PS Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 14:50:19 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== That's a simple fix - go into the Printers dialog box, and Right click on the Apple Laserwriter Driver then select 'Document Defaults...' and change the grey scale option to colour. Hope this helps .... > ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== > > That Worked! But.... > For some reason after I distill the PS file the bitmapped images are > in > grayscale. The other colors in the file are intact. For example I > printed > http://home.netscape.com/ to file from Netscape to Apple LaserWriter > 810. > Then distilled that file. When I view the PDF, the Netcenter logo and > other > gif (or jpgs) are grayscale but the date and other colors are fine. > Any > ideas? > > Thanks again, > Michael Stearne > > "Wraight, David D." wrote: > > > ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== > > > > Michael, > > > > You don't need the hardware to generate a PS file, and there's a > couple > > of different approaches you can take for this but here's a quick > one. > > > > Install a printer from Control Panels, but select a Postscript > > compatible printer (preferably not a HP brand), try something like > an > > Apple LaserWriter 810 or something similar .. > > > > Once installed all you need to do to create the PS file is print > > normally, print using the print driver selected but select the > 'Print To > > File' option where ever available. All apps will have this option. > > > > Hopefully I havent missed anything there (anyone??) and hopefully > this > > will actually help rather than send you backwards.. > > > > d.................................. > > > > > ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone > <==== > > > > > > I know this isn't exactly the list but how can I create (on > windows) a > > > postscript file. Not PDF, but a PS file that can be distilled. I > > > don't > > > have a PS printer, is there a plug in or an application that > emulates > > > a > > > PS printer driver? > _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 18-Sep-1998 7:57:18-GMT,2395;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA02767 for ; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 01:57:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA18827; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 02:43:18 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 18 Sep 1998 02:42:17 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA18714; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 02:42:14 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Creating PS Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 07:50:02 +0100 Message-ID: <000101bde2d7$b052bbe0$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-Reply-To: <3601FAA7.EBB53422@eisolutions.com> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== > That Worked! But.... > For some reason after I distill the PS file the bitmapped > images are in > grayscale. The other colors in the file are intact. For > example I printed > http://home.netscape.com/ to file from Netscape to Apple > LaserWriter 810. > Then distilled that file. When I view the PDF, the Netcenter > logo and other > gif (or jpgs) are grayscale but the date and other colors are > fine. Any > ideas? Yes, that's a black and white printer. Use a colour printer, like a Tektronix Phaser. Or, better still, ... Are you distilling on a different system from the one where you generate the PostScript? If you are not, then just do a full install of Acrobat and use Distiller Assistant. Aandi _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 18-Sep-1998 7:57:19-GMT,2620;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA02771 for ; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 01:57:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA18826; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 02:43:18 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 18 Sep 1998 02:42:14 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA18688; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 02:42:10 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Size does matter! Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 07:48:00 +0100 Message-ID: <000001bde2d7$aea5f640$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-Reply-To: <3601C0C9.F556D8D2@stratos.net> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== > Finally, after months of waiting for a worthy project , I > have expressed > another pdf. However I am dismayed with the size of the resulting > document. > The file a PageMaker 6.5 document with a saved state file > size of 221K. > Using the PDF Writer increased the size of the document to a > little less > than 1 meg. First up: do NOT use PDFWriter with PageMaker. Use Distiller, and the easiest way to do that is via Export > Adobe PDF. > There is a graphic element in the lead page: an eps > grayscale element which I created in Illustrator. I used run length > compression in the conversion process. I have also tried distilling > with the same result...a larger file. Run length? That is a very poor compression for monochrome, and does not apply to greyscale. What compression settings did you use in Distiller? What is the size of the EPS, and is it raster or vector? Are there any other embedded graphics? Aandi _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 18-Sep-1998 8:15:32-GMT,3932;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA03198 for ; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 02:15:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA19448; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 02:59:03 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 18 Sep 1998 02:57:51 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA19355; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 02:57:49 -0500 X-ROUTED: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 03:58:48 -0500 Message-ID: <3601FD7A.FCCD0DDA@eisolutions.com> Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 02:28:10 -0400 From: Michael Stearne Organization: EIS, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5b2 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Creating PS References: <3601FAA7.EBB53422@eisolutions.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== My fault. I just did the same process with a file in Word and it came out in color. That must be something to do with Netscape. Thanks, Michael Michael Stearne wrote: > ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== > > That Worked! But.... > For some reason after I distill the PS file the bitmapped images are in > grayscale. The other colors in the file are intact. For example I printed > http://home.netscape.com/ to file from Netscape to Apple LaserWriter 810. > Then distilled that file. When I view the PDF, the Netcenter logo and other > gif (or jpgs) are grayscale but the date and other colors are fine. Any > ideas? > > Thanks again, > Michael Stearne > > "Wraight, David D." wrote: > > > ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== > > > > Michael, > > > > You don't need the hardware to generate a PS file, and there's a couple > > of different approaches you can take for this but here's a quick one. > > > > Install a printer from Control Panels, but select a Postscript > > compatible printer (preferably not a HP brand), try something like an > > Apple LaserWriter 810 or something similar .. > > > > Once installed all you need to do to create the PS file is print > > normally, print using the print driver selected but select the 'Print To > > File' option where ever available. All apps will have this option. > > > > Hopefully I havent missed anything there (anyone??) and hopefully this > > will actually help rather than send you backwards.. > > > > d.................................. > > > > > ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== > > > > > > I know this isn't exactly the list but how can I create (on windows) a > > > postscript file. Not PDF, but a PS file that can be distilled. I > > > don't > > > have a PS printer, is there a plug in or an application that emulates > > > a > > > PS printer driver? > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________________ > > -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- > * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * > + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + > _______________________________________________________ _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 18-Sep-1998 10:47:20-GMT,2511;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA06340 for ; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 04:47:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA23579; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 05:12:43 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 18 Sep 1998 05:10:56 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA23504; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 05:10:54 -0500 Message-ID: <36023FF5.5F1543DD@empa.ch> Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 12:11:54 +0100 From: Erwin Widmer Organization: EMPA X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5b2 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: de-CH, en-US MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] getting back to acd References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Nathan, Editing should be done in the original file! If you have to do it in the PDF document use a PDF editor like Pitstop. Erwin Nathan Keller wrote: > ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== > > Hi, > > I have pdfs which contain pictures and/or lines and we would like to remove > them. How can we do this? Anyone know how to go from a pdf back to acd > files? TIA. > > Sincerely, > > Nathan Keller > Technical Support > Career Guidance Foundation > nathank@cgf.org > (800) 854-2670 > http://www.collegesource.org > > > _______________________________________________________ > > -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- > * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * > + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + > _______________________________________________________ _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 18-Sep-1998 11:47:34-GMT,2723;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA07493 for ; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 05:47:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA25901; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 06:23:29 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 18 Sep 1998 06:20:59 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA25793; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 06:20:57 -0500 Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 12:20:53 +0100 (BST) From: Ann Apps Message-Id: <199809181120.MAA03897@cs6400.mcc.ac.uk> To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Problem printing PDF files X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== One of our end-users has reported a problem printing a PDF file. The PDF file contains an article displayed in two columns. When he prints it, the two columns overlap in the middle, making it unreadable. I can print this file OK, and so can our representative at the user's institution, so I don't think there is anything wrong with the PDF file. The user is accessing this PDF file over the web, using Netscape 4.01, Acrobat 3 and a Laserjet 6P printer. The file doesn't contain any unusual fonts, just type 1 times and helvetica. Our rep says he has come across this problem before with some machines, but doesn't know why. In fact, he has 5 PCs, in the library where he works, all attached to the same printer. Only one of these machines can print the file OK. He also says that the file prints OK if downloaded over the web onto the PC, and then opened directly in Acrobat. Can anyone shed any light on this problem? Thanks, Ann -------------------------------------------------------------------- Mrs. Ann Apps. SuperJournal Project, Manchester Computing, University of Manchester, Oxford Road, Manchester, M13 9PL, UK. Tel: +44 (0) 161 275 6039 Fax: +44 (0) 161 275 6040 Email: Ann.Apps@mcc.ac.uk WWW: http://www.superjournal.ac.uk/sj/ -------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 18-Sep-1998 11:57:59-GMT,1934;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA07703 for ; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 05:57:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA26407; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 06:36:05 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 18 Sep 1998 06:33:20 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA26264; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 06:33:18 -0500 Message-ID: <19980918113010.13077.rocketmail@web4.rocketmail.com> Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 04:30:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Christoph Ahlers Subject: [PDF] view Catalog *.pdx-file in browser ? To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Hi, I´ve just created a pdx-file for all the pdf-documents on our intranet server. Is there a possibility to watch this index-file within a browser ? Thanx for any help. Greets Chris === Christoph Ahlers Paderborn, Germany mailto:christoph.ahlers@bertelsmann.de mailto:cahlers@rocketmail.com mailto:r00018@pbhrzs0.uni-paderborn.de _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 18-Sep-1998 13:06:36-GMT,3083;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA09050 for ; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 07:06:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA28800; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 07:43:20 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 18 Sep 1998 07:38:31 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA28608; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 07:38:30 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.32.19980918084125.009e81f0@mailman.epnet.com> X-Sender: alindsay@mailman.epnet.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 08:41:26 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: alindsay@mailman.epnet.com (Andrew Lindsay) Subject: Re: [PDF] getting back to acd Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== In Illustrator 7.0 and on, you can open up the PDF directly in Illustrator and edit the elements directly. But you can only do one page at a time. -----------At 12:17 AM 9/18/98 +0200, Max Wyss wrote:----------- > >====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== > >Nathan, > >It is possible to edit graphic elements in a PDF file with the Pitstop >plug-in for Exchange by Enfocus (http://www.enfocus.com). > >If you have a way to convert EPS to acd, you could use an illustration >program, such as Adobe Illustrator, to create an EPS which you can process >further. > >Hope, this can help. > >Max Wyss >PRODOK Engineering AG >Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing >CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland > >Phone: +41 1 700 29 21 >Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 >e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch >WWW: http://www.prodok.ch/prodok > > >Bridging the Knowledge Gap > > >______________________ > > > >>Hi, >> >>I have pdfs which contain pictures and/or lines and we would like to remove >>them. How can we do this? Anyone know how to go from a pdf back to acd >>files? TIA. >> >>Sincerely, >> >>Nathan Keller > > > > >_______________________________________________________ > >-> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- >* http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * >+ Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + >_______________________________________________________ > > > Andrew Lindsay Technical Manager - Electronic Publishing EBSCO Publishing Ipswich, MA 01938 (978) 356-6500 x268 _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 18-Sep-1998 13:40:09-GMT,2710;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA09807 for ; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 07:40:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA30501; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 08:16:28 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 18 Sep 1998 08:14:03 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA30350; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 08:14:01 -0500 Message-Id: <199809181313.IAA30340@everglades.binc.net> Date: 18 Sep 98 09:13:38 +0000 From: Justin Blocksom Subject: Re: [PDF] getting back to acd To: pdf X-Mailer: QuickMail Pro 1.5.2 (Mac) X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-Ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id IAA30346 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Reply to: Re: [PDF] getting back to acd >In Illustrator 7.0 and on, you can open up the PDF directly in Illustrator >and edit the elements directly. But you can only do one page at a time. > (Thought I'd post this to the main list to get others involved in the discussion if they desired) Andrew, I investigated the various workflows to edit PDF's a month ago looking through various options as QXTools, Photoshop, Illustrator, etc. Because PDF's are communicated to me from my client who is being fed Microsoft Word files from many different sources, this is our best option but leaves me often without an original. I finally settled on Pitstop, and although crude, it gets the minor image editing/substitution job done. A concern of mine, was how well does Illustrator (or Photoshop for that matter) communicate with PDF embedded font information? Does it come through? Is all text converted to outlines? Are there any cross-platform issues? (opening a PC PDF in Mac Illustrator). Any information would be great. Thanks Justin Blocksom Printing & Publications Corp. jblocksom@printandpub.com _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 18-Sep-1998 15:59:31-GMT,2647;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA13484 for ; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 09:59:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA05075; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 10:34:36 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 18 Sep 1998 10:30:22 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA04943; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 10:30:20 -0500 X-ROUTED: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 11:31:22 -0500 Message-ID: <36027C97.78EFCE51@eisolutions.com> Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 11:30:31 -0400 From: Michael Stearne Organization: EIS, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5b2 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com, quite@dial.pipex.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Creating PS References: <000101bde2d7$b052bbe0$0101c6c0@gateway> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== That's funny because I actually did test it on a Tektronix Phaser III PXi also, but with the same result. But as I said, the issue went away when I did a Word document. That came out in color. Thanks, Michael Aandi Inston wrote: > > Yes, that's a black and white printer. Use a colour printer, > like a Tektronix Phaser. Or, better still, ... > > Are you distilling on a different system from the one where you > generate the PostScript? If you are not, then just do a full > install of Acrobat and use Distiller Assistant. > > Aandi > > _______________________________________________________ > > -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- > * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * > + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + > _______________________________________________________ -- --------------------------- Michael Stearne EffectiV Internet Solutions http://EISolutions.com 215.508.5072 --------------------------- _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 18-Sep-1998 16:09:33-GMT,1925;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA13785 for ; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 10:09:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA05731; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 10:46:41 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 18 Sep 1998 10:44:22 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA05587; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 10:44:20 -0500 From: "Scott Hamlow" To: "PDFZone" Subject: [PDF] Status of Acrobat 3.5? Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 08:46:15 -0700 Message-ID: <000801bde31b$77f355e0$45a2fecc@scotth.fourgen.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2232.26 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Has anyone heard anything about the status of Acrobat 3.5? Is it for real? I've been checking Adobe's web and ftp sites daily and not a thing about this. Also, what's up with 4.0? If they're going to release 3.5, that must mean that 4.0 is still a ways off. _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 18-Sep-1998 16:23:30-GMT,2733;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA14196 for ; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 10:23:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA06725; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 11:05:12 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 18 Sep 1998 11:02:45 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA06544; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 11:02:44 -0500 Message-ID: <004201bde31c$c4ee8f80$b2c314d1@Prometheus.main> From: "Ian Lurie" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] Status of Acrobat 3.5? Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 08:55:29 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Scott, I was at Adobe two weeks ago for the Seattle Frame/Acrobat User's Group -- when I mentioned 3.5 to Adobe staff at the meeting, they didn't know anything about it.... Ian Lurie The Written Word, Inc. Information Design Online, On Paper, and On the Web http://www.writtenword.com -----Original Message----- From: Scott Hamlow To: PDFZone Date: Friday, September 18, 1998 8:57 AM Subject: [PDF] Status of Acrobat 3.5? > >====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== > >Has anyone heard anything about the status of Acrobat 3.5? Is it for real? >I've been checking Adobe's web and ftp sites daily and not a thing about >this. Also, what's up with 4.0? If they're going to release 3.5, that must >mean that 4.0 is still a ways off. > > >_______________________________________________________ > >-> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- >* http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * >+ Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + >_______________________________________________________ > > > _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 18-Sep-1998 17:12:23-GMT,2122;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA15618 for ; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 11:12:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA08951; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 11:42:56 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 18 Sep 1998 11:40:15 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA08726; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 11:40:12 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980918124914.00912c00@iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 12:49:14 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] Creating PS In-Reply-To: <3601DFFD.D32F5C60@eisolutions.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== > >I know this isn't exactly the list but how can I create (on windows) a >postscript file. Not PDF, but a PS file that can be distilled. I don't >have a PS printer, is there a plug in or an application that emulates a >PS printer driver? > Simple. Install a PS driver and have Windows output to FILE: rather than to a port. There's no need whatever to have a physical PS printer attached. Since you plan to distill anyhow, your best bet would be to install a PS driver of any flavor, then add Distiller Assistant. Steve Rindsberg/Prez RDP http://www.rdpslides.com _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 18-Sep-1998 17:42:07-GMT,1800;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA16383 for ; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 11:42:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA10618; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 12:10:03 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 18 Sep 1998 12:07:52 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA10502; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 12:07:51 -0500 Message-Id: <199809181707.RAA06383@eamail1.unisys.com> From: "Dembek, Raymond F" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Status of Acrobat 3.5? Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 12:01:21 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Reply from Adobe 9/10: Acrobat 3.5 refers to the updated Forms plug-in which is a free upgrade and is downloadable from www.adobe.com. Go to the Downloadable Files page: http://www.adobe.com/supportservice/custsupport/download.html and click on Acrobat Exchange, Mac or Windows. Gary Cosimini Adobe Systems _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 18-Sep-1998 17:42:19-GMT,4917;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA16396 for ; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 11:42:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA10381; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 12:06:48 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 18 Sep 1998 12:04:15 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA10251; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 12:04:13 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 10:06:17 -0700 Message-ID: <0007B7B9.1343@seatimes.com> From: jrackerby@seatimes.com (Jayson Rackerby) To: Subject: Re[2]: [PDF] Size does matter! Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="IMA.Boundary.180831609" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== --IMA.Boundary.180831609 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part A few embedded and subset fonts could also grow the file size appreciably. JJR _______________________________________________________________________________ Subject: RE: [PDF] Size does matter! From: "Aandi Inston" at Internet Date: 9/18/98 7:48 AM ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== > Finally, after months of waiting for a worthy project , I > have expressed > another pdf. However I am dismayed with the size of the resulting > document. > The file a PageMaker 6.5 document with a saved state file > size of 221K. > Using the PDF Writer increased the size of the document to a > little less > than 1 meg. First up: do NOT use PDFWriter with PageMaker. Use Distiller, and the easiest way to do that is via Export > Adobe PDF. > There is a graphic element in the lead page: an eps > grayscale element which I created in Illustrator. I used run length > compression in the conversion process. I have also tried distilling > with the same result...a larger file. Run length? That is a very poor compression for monochrome, and does not apply to greyscale. What compression settings did you use in Distiller? What is the size of the EPS, and is it raster or vector? Are there any other embedded graphics? Aandi _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ --IMA.Boundary.180831609 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; name="RFC822 message headers" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Content-Disposition: inline; filename="RFC822 message headers" Received: from seatimes.seatimes.com (192.251.219.14) by ccmail.seatimes.com with SMTP (IMA Internet Exchange 2.11 Enterprise) id 0007B4AB; Fri, 18 Sep 98 00:47:16 -0700 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by seatimes.seatimes.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA14843 for ; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 00:41:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA18774; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 02:42:53 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 18 Sep 1998 02:42:14 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA18688; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 02:42:10 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Size does matter! Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 07:48:00 +0100 Message-ID: <000001bde2d7$aea5f640$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-Reply-To: <3601C0C9.F556D8D2@stratos.net> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com --IMA.Boundary.180831609-- _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 18-Sep-1998 17:42:44-GMT,2455;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA16418 for ; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 11:42:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA11366; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 12:23:47 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 18 Sep 1998 12:21:24 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA11170; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 12:21:22 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: DELCO From: "Sean M McCormack" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <05256683.005F893C.00@uskokg01.delcoelect.com> Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 12:23:27 -0500 Subject: [PDF] Bulk-Licensed 'run-time' Distiller module Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Distiller ? - Has there been any progress in getting Adobe to sanction a 'run-time' Distiller module that could be made available to imaging vendors - for a bulk-license fee - allowing free distribution to clients...? Supposedly this suggestion was made by several speakers at the Seybold Seminars in New York last spring... The idea was to have a Distiller module that included a shop's logo on the Splash Screen, and also contain pre-defined settings so that clients could generate production-ready PDFs... Any news ? --------------------------------------------------------- Cheers... Sean M. McCormack DTP & PrePress Specialist Forms Coordinator smmccorm@mail.delcoelect.com 765/451-8918 - Fax: 765/451-1774 DELPHI AUTOMOTIVE SYSTEMS Delphi Delco Electronics Systems DE Print Shop (Reproduction Services) Plant 9 - M/S: MR101 - Dept. 1511 Kokomo, Indiana 46904-9005 --------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 18-Sep-1998 17:45:15-GMT,2912;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA16509 for ; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 11:45:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA11410; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 12:24:38 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 18 Sep 1998 12:22:29 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA11264; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 12:22:27 -0500 From: "Scott Hamlow" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Status of Acrobat 3.5? Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 10:24:23 -0700 Message-ID: <000c01bde329$2dae3dc0$45a2fecc@scotth.fourgen.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2232.26 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-Reply-To: <199809181707.RAA06383@eamail1.unisys.com> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== This is just the plug-in. I heard that Adobe announced at Seybold last week they would be releasing Acrobat 3.5, which would be a single installer for Reader and forms 3.5, as well as some other bug fixes. This single installer is what I'm curious about. > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com [mailto:owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com]On > Behalf Of Dembek, Raymond F > Sent: Friday, September 18, 1998 10:01 AM > To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' > Subject: RE: [PDF] Status of Acrobat 3.5? > > > > ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== > > Reply from Adobe 9/10: > > Acrobat 3.5 refers to the updated Forms plug-in which is a free > upgrade and > is downloadable from www.adobe.com. Go to the Downloadable Files page: > http://www.adobe.com/supportservice/custsupport/download.html and click on Acrobat Exchange, Mac or Windows. Gary Cosimini Adobe Systems _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 18-Sep-1998 17:47:45-GMT,2657;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA16560 for ; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 11:47:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA11629; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 12:27:47 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 18 Sep 1998 12:25:38 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA11489; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 12:25:36 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: KEYCORP From: "Karen L Mibus" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <85256683.005EAB55.00@keybank.com> Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 13:16:28 -0400 Subject: RE: [PDF] Status of Acrobat 3.5? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Hi Gary Cosimini: Is Adobe preparing to release a new version of Acrobat Reader that includes all the plug-ins and fixes, such as the PCL printer fix, OCX fix, Forms Fill-In plug-in, etc.? If so, when? --Karen ---------------------- Forwarded by Karen L Mibus/NE/KSC/KeyCorp on 09/18/98 01:16 PM --------------------------- Ray.Dembek@unisys.com on 09/18/98 01:01:21 PM Please respond to pdf@lists.pdfzone.com To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com cc: (bcc: Karen L Mibus/NE/KSC/KeyCorp) Subject: RE: [PDF] Status of Acrobat 3.5? ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Reply from Adobe 9/10: Acrobat 3.5 refers to the updated Forms plug-in which is a free upgrade and is downloadable from www.adobe.com. Go to the Downloadable Files page: http://www.adobe.com/supportservice/custsupport/download.html and click on Acrobat Exchange, Mac or Windows. Gary Cosimini Adobe Systems _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 18-Sep-1998 18:07:05-GMT,1947;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA17170 for ; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 12:07:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA13244; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 12:50:58 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 18 Sep 1998 12:48:21 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA12975; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 12:48:19 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] view Catalog *.pdx-file in browser ? Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 18:37:56 +0100 Message-ID: <000201bde32c$462d9320$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-Reply-To: <19980918113010.13077.rocketmail@web4.rocketmail.com> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== > I´ve just created a pdx-file for all > the pdf-documents on our intranet server. > > Is there a possibility to watch this > index-file within a browser ? No. Not unless you install a search engine on the web server. Aandi _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 18-Sep-1998 20:57:43-GMT,2180;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA21736 for ; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 14:57:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA22365; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 15:33:56 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 18 Sep 1998 15:31:01 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA22193; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 15:30:58 -0500 Message-ID: <3602D176.20AB@archangel.net> Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 16:32:39 -0500 From: Shane Steinman Organization: ArchAngel Media Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] getting back to acd References: <199809181313.IAA30340@everglades.binc.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== > ...how well does Illustrator (or Photoshop for that matter) > communicate with PDF embedded font information? Does it come > through? Is all text converted to outlines? Are there any > cross-platform issues? (opening a PC PDF in Mac Illustrator). > Any information would be great. Thanks As soon as you open the PDF in Illustrator to edit the line work or other elements, you had better have the fonts available! -- Shane Steinman Logistics & Diagnostics, ArchAngel Media Inc. 555 Sheppard Ave. W., Ste. 910, Toronto, Ont., CAN M3H 2R7 Tel. or Fax: (416) 410-6366 email: shane@archangel.net _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 19-Sep-1998 1:00:08-GMT,1863;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA27607 for ; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 19:00:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA00675; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 19:43:09 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 18 Sep 1998 19:39:50 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA00511; Fri, 18 Sep 1998 19:39:49 -0500 X-ROUTED: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 20:40:54 -0500 Message-ID: <3602FD68.17D4D64D@eisolutions.com> Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 20:40:08 -0400 From: Michael Stearne Organization: EIS, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5b2 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "pdf@lists.pdfzone.com" Subject: [PDF] JPG to PDF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Does anyone know of a JPG to PDF or GIF to PDF conversion script for Unix (Perl). Thanks, Michael Stearne -- --------------------------- Michael Stearne EffectiV Internet Solutions http://EISolutions.com 215.508.5072 --------------------------- _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 19-Sep-1998 12:58:53-GMT,1717;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA11164 for ; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 06:58:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA24859; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 07:42:54 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 19 Sep 1998 07:36:48 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA24503; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 07:36:45 -0500 Message-Id: <199809191236.FAA23439@hecate.webcom.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.01 (295) Date: Sat, 19 Sep 1998 09:38:13 -0300 Subject: [PDF] Opening some files gives error -43 From: "Enrique FLOURET" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== When I open certain pdf files (even some downloaded from adobe and commercial software!) Exchange and Reader give me twice a -43 error and then hangs up. thanks _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 19-Sep-1998 16:52:51-GMT,1933;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA15570 for ; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 10:52:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA01339; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 11:33:46 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 19 Sep 1998 11:27:54 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA01096; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 11:27:52 -0500 Date: Sat, 19 Sep 1998 09:27:04 -0700 X-Sender: gcosimin@mail-345 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <85256683.005EAB55.00@keybank.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Gary Cosimini Subject: RE: [PDF] Status of Acrobat 3.5? Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== >Is Adobe preparing to release a new version of Acrobat Reader that includes >all the plug-ins and fixes, such as the PCL printer fix, OCX fix, Forms >Fill-In plug-in, etc.? If so, when? > >--Karen Hi Karen: I don't know of any plans to do so for the current version of Acrobat. If someone heard such an announcement at Seybold, it would be helpful to know exactly who said it. I was at Seybold and I didn't hear it. Gary _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 19-Sep-1998 18:28:27-GMT,2480;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA17443 for ; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 12:28:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA05383; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 13:12:46 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 19 Sep 1998 13:08:28 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA05193; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 13:08:27 -0500 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3601FD7A.FCCD0DDA@eisolutions.com> References: <3601FAA7.EBB53422@eisolutions.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Message: http:/www.WorldEnergy.com Date: Sat, 19 Sep 1998 12:08:14 -0600 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Hugh Evans Subject: [PDF] PS Driver Install & quality Issues Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== I'm in an NT networked environment - all printers are on the network. Would it work for me to install the PS driver on the Printer Server and then install the Printers to the NT clients accross the network via the add network printer control panel on the clients. Or am I better off doing individual installs on each client? I am confused as to where the .ppd's are located (should be installed) on NT during the install of the driver. Is there a quality difference in creating .pdf files on Mac vs' PC. I noticed that when exporting PDF from Frame - my graphics are not "great" quality - compared with distilling the same graphic "stand alone". any thoughts? Also, I notice that there are differences in color fidelity (richness) between original .tiff files and the various methods of creating .pdf files. Why is this? Regards, Hugh Evans _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 19-Sep-1998 19:15:34-GMT,2594;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA18424 for ; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 13:15:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA07497; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 14:02:19 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 19 Sep 1998 13:58:31 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA07277; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 13:58:30 -0500 From: "MCS" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] PS Driver Install & quality Issues Date: Sat, 19 Sep 1998 13:59:26 -0500 Message-ID: <000001bde3ff$9f44e520$523e5fcc@archetyp> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Makes no difference whether local or network since it uses the same PS drivers regardless. It will ask for your install disk to load the drivers. As for MAC vs PC, my guess is that some will tell you that even the skies look clearer on a MAC :-) Kevin Jackson triskelian design archetyp@mcs.com -----Original Message----- ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== I'm in an NT networked environment - all printers are on the network. Would it work for me to install the PS driver on the Printer Server and then install the Printers to the NT clients accross the network via the add network printer control panel on the clients. Or am I better off doing individual installs on each client? I am confused as to where the .ppd's are located (should be installed) on NT during the install of the driver. Is there a quality difference in creating .pdf files on Mac vs' PC. _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 19-Sep-1998 19:54:08-GMT,3889;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA19186 for ; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 13:54:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA08774; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 14:33:39 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 19 Sep 1998 14:29:40 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA08588; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 14:29:39 -0500 Date: Sat, 19 Sep 1998 15:29:06 -0400 From: Michael Vorel Subject: [PDF] PS Driver Install & quality Issues To: "INTERNET:pdf@lists.pdfzone.com" Message-ID: <199809191529_MC2-59F6-EB75@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id OAA08584 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Message text written by INTERNET:pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > I'm in an NT networked environment - all printers are on the network. Would it work for me to install the PS driver on the Printer Server and then install the Printers to the NT clients accross the network via the add network printer control panel on the clients. Or am I better off doing individual installs on each client? I am confused as to where the .ppd's are located (should be installed) on NT during the install of the driver.< My comments are directed to the printing support only. It depends on how many desktops you need to support. I have maoved many of my desktops to the Nt 4.0 OS for better control and improved support and security. For printing services, no drivers are installed on the desktops. (I support sites that have more than 100seats) I have stepped away from using the MS or vendor provided printer kits. Too many varations in window and presentation look and feel. I only use the Adobe Print Driver. There are multiple ways and methods for connecting to printers and installing print drivers for NT environments. Variations can occur, based on your desktop OS. I create a master PPD folder on the server that is public to all connections. I generally create print queues on the NT server with the Adobe 5 app and vendor provided PPD's. All NT workstation clients attach to the queues. Whenever I change or update PPD's all NT clients are automatically updated. Win95/98 desktops use the Adobe 4.3.4 driver (I think this is the latest). I use the same PPD library and tell NT to support the Win95/98 clients as well. I use the same process for Macintosh clients and have the Mac desktops print to the NT queue, rather than to the printer directly. I only suport TCP/IP on the printers, minimizing contention for printing and network traffic. The NT server is better qualified for supporting multiple connections. All desktops print to the NT server, the NT server services the printers. I can redirect, save print jobs and recover better under this scenario. If you have other questions you wish to discuss in more detail, please contact me at mvorel@desi.net michael vorel Sr. Design Consultant Bowne Business Solutions 555 5th Ave New York, NY 10017 212-351-9019 _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 19-Sep-1998 23:55:17-GMT,1812;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA23953 for ; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 17:55:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA18160; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 18:40:39 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 19 Sep 1998 18:37:22 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA18035; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 18:37:21 -0500 Message-ID: <3604CCEC.63480CAB@realworld.com.au> Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 09:37:49 +0000 From: Dean Laffan X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] PS Driver Install & quality Issues References: <000001bde3ff$9f44e520$523e5fcc@archetyp> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== MCS wrote: > As for MAC vs PC, my guess is that some will tell you that even the skies > look clearer on a MAC :-) > > Kevin Jackson > triskelian design > archetyp@mcs.com But they do ! :-) Dean _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 20-Sep-1998 1:31:24-GMT,3623;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA25705 for ; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 19:31:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA21503; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 20:13:10 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 19 Sep 1998 20:10:31 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA21323; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 20:10:30 -0500 Message-ID: <36046442.6BD931D2@empa.ch> Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 03:11:15 +0100 From: Erwin Widmer Organization: EMPA X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5b2 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: de-CH, en-US MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Problem printing PDF files References: <199809181120.MAA03897@cs6400.mcc.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Ann, My idea is, that the fonts are not embeded in the PDF and on the different PC different fonts with the same name are installed. Therefore on some PCs the text is rendered right on others not. Erwin Ann Apps wrote: > ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== > > One of our end-users has reported a problem printing a PDF file. The PDF file > contains an article displayed in two columns. When he prints it, the two > columns overlap in the middle, making it unreadable. I can print this file OK, > and so can our representative at the user's institution, so I don't think > there is anything wrong with the PDF file. > > The user is accessing this PDF file over the web, using Netscape 4.01, > Acrobat 3 and a Laserjet 6P printer. > > The file doesn't contain any unusual fonts, just type 1 times and helvetica. > > Our rep says he has come across this problem before with some machines, but > doesn't know why. In fact, he has 5 PCs, in the library where he works, > all attached to the same printer. Only one of these machines can print the > file OK. He also says that the file prints OK if downloaded over the web onto > the PC, and then opened directly in Acrobat. > > Can anyone shed any light on this problem? > > Thanks, > Ann > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > Mrs. Ann Apps. SuperJournal Project, Manchester Computing, > University of Manchester, Oxford Road, Manchester, M13 9PL, UK. > Tel: +44 (0) 161 275 6039 Fax: +44 (0) 161 275 6040 > Email: Ann.Apps@mcc.ac.uk WWW: http://www.superjournal.ac.uk/sj/ > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > _______________________________________________________ > > -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- > * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * > + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + > _______________________________________________________ _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 20-Sep-1998 1:48:45-GMT,2509;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA26000 for ; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 19:48:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA22509; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 20:40:01 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 19 Sep 1998 20:37:43 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA22391; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 20:37:42 -0500 Message-ID: <36046AB2.2C543057@empa.ch> Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 03:38:44 +0100 From: Erwin Widmer Organization: EMPA X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5b2 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: de-CH, en-US MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Status of Acrobat 3.5? References: <000801bde31b$77f355e0$45a2fecc@scotth.fourgen.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Scott, As I know it's just a rumor that there is a Reader or Exchange version 3.5. The only version 3.5 which is available is the forms tool. Acrobat 4.0 will come somewhere next year. Erwin Scott Hamlow wrote: > ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== > > Has anyone heard anything about the status of Acrobat 3.5? Is it for real? > I've been checking Adobe's web and ftp sites daily and not a thing about > this. Also, what's up with 4.0? If they're going to release 3.5, that must > mean that 4.0 is still a ways off. > > _______________________________________________________ > > -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- > * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * > + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + > _______________________________________________________ _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 20-Sep-1998 2:02:23-GMT,4227;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA26257 for ; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 20:02:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA22807; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 20:46:47 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 19 Sep 1998 20:44:33 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA22680; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 20:44:31 -0500 Date: Sat, 19 Sep 1998 21:43:48 -0400 From: Michael Vorel Subject: Re: [PDF] Problem printing PDF files To: "INTERNET:pdf@lists.pdfzone.com" Message-ID: <199809192144_MC2-5A03-671A@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id UAA22676 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Message text written by INTERNET:pdf@lists.pdfzone.com >Ann, My idea is, that the fonts are not embeded in the PDF and on the different PC different fonts with the same name are installed. Therefore on some PCs the text is rendered right on others not. Erwin Ann Apps wrote: > ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== > > One of our end-users has reported a problem printing a PDF file. The PDF file > contains an article displayed in two columns. When he prints it, the two > columns overlap in the middle, making it unreadable. I can print this file OK, > and so can our representative at the user's institution, so I don't think > there is anything wrong with the PDF file. > > The user is accessing this PDF file over the web, using Netscape 4.01, > Acrobat 3 and a Laserjet 6P printer. > > The file doesn't contain any unusual fonts, just type 1 times and helvetica. > > Our rep says he has come across this problem before with some machines, but > doesn't know why. In fact, he has 5 PCs, in the library where he works, > all attached to the same printer. Only one of these machines can print the > file OK. He also says that the file prints OK if downloaded over the web onto > the PC, and then opened directly in Acrobat. > > Can anyone shed any light on this problem? > > Thanks, > Ann< Ann, Some conditions you probably are aware of. Fonts are licensed and many drivers substitute based on best guess characteristics. Then the various PDL interpreters get involved and do their guessing game as well. You have not stated whether the native printing is done on a PCL engine or a PS engine. Since PDF is designed to be printer and font independent, my guess is some of the PC's are using different print drivers and configurations. Many HP printers support both PCL and PS, but the native font libraries and attributes for each PDL are significantly different. Check the PC print drivers and font support parameters. They may be configured differently. If Netscape is using the PCL driver, Acrobat prefers to render PS. Both print files can be directed to the same printer which knows how to switch between PDL's. One other idea is to check the PCL upgrade for Acrobat. Adobe released a PCL patch to fix some font problems. Without knowing the specific drivers and configuration parameters, it is more difficult to define the solution. If you are able to forward more specifics and a test file, I will offer my help to isolate and make recommendations. michael vorel Bowne Business Solutions 555 5th Ave New York, NY 10019 212-351-9019 mvorel@desi.net _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 20-Sep-1998 2:46:37-GMT,2758;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA27060 for ; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 20:46:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA24345; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 21:30:18 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 19 Sep 1998 21:27:47 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA24185; Sat, 19 Sep 1998 21:27:46 -0500 Message-ID: <36047667.D36DB5C@empa.ch> Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 04:28:41 +0100 From: Erwin Widmer Organization: EMPA X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5b2 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: de-CH, en-US MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Status of Acrobat 3.5? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Gary, Sandra Rosenbaum said at the PDF-Day at Seybold that there will be a new version of Acrobat Reader which contains the recent fixes like PCL and OCX. As I remember right she said that this version will be soon downloadable. But I couldn't find it till now. Erwin Gary Cosimini wrote: > ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== > > >Is Adobe preparing to release a new version of Acrobat Reader that includes > >all the plug-ins and fixes, such as the PCL printer fix, OCX fix, Forms > >Fill-In plug-in, etc.? If so, when? > > > >--Karen > > Hi Karen: > > I don't know of any plans to do so for the current version of Acrobat. > > If someone heard such an announcement at Seybold, it would be helpful to > know exactly who said it. I was at Seybold and I didn't hear it. > > Gary > > _______________________________________________________ > > -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- > * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * > + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + > _______________________________________________________ _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 20-Sep-1998 17:30:37-GMT,2081;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA13218 for ; Sun, 20 Sep 1998 11:30:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA21062; Sun, 20 Sep 1998 12:09:06 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 20 Sep 1998 12:02:23 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA20763; Sun, 20 Sep 1998 12:02:21 -0500 X-Sender: tm@193.174.4.1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.1 Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 18:38:08 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Thomas Merz Subject: [PDF] Re: JPG to PDF Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Message-Id: <98Sep20.190056met_dst.140564-3@colin.muc.de> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== >From: Michael Stearne >Subject: [PDF] JPG to PDF >Does anyone know of a JPG to PDF or GIF to PDF conversion script for >Unix (Perl). My PDFlib C library does both. It includes a sample library client for TIFF (crude though), GIF, and JPEG to PDF conversion. Be warned that TIFF and GIF conversion currently produces uncompressed output; JPEG to PDF doesn't. Thomas Merz _______________________________________________________________ Thomas Merz, Munich tm@muc.de http://www.ifconnection.de/~tm -- pdfmark Primer -- PDFlib -- Ghostscript manual -- jpeg2ps -- _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 20-Sep-1998 20:52:50-GMT,2211;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA17047 for ; Sun, 20 Sep 1998 14:52:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA29165; Sun, 20 Sep 1998 15:35:55 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 20 Sep 1998 15:33:07 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA29035; Sun, 20 Sep 1998 15:33:03 -0500 Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 16:32:27 -0400 From: John Sharp <101503.432@compuserve.com> Subject: [PDF] Creating PS, PDFs with colour To: PDF Message-ID: <199809201632_MC2-5A0C-9B5B@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id PAA29026 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== There have been a few messages recently about creating PS files. I had trouble creating PS files for distilling and also straight PDF files using the PDF writer. This is with Windows95 Colour varied as well as giving me both grey scale and wrong orientation with some programs. For example, I have not be able to get good output from Paintshop Pro ver 5, but version 4 works OK. So I would suggest using different programs to see which gives the best results. I also had a colour problem using an EPS file created using Corel 7 which was inserted in Pagemaker 6. John Sharp Watford England 101503.432@compuserve.com _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 21-Sep-1998 3:36:01-GMT,2701;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA24410 for ; Sun, 20 Sep 1998 21:36:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA12794; Sun, 20 Sep 1998 22:21:34 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 20 Sep 1998 22:18:37 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA12682; Sun, 20 Sep 1998 22:18:35 -0500 X-Sender: wadsond@pop3.air.on.ca Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 23:23:09 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: David Wadson Subject: [PDF] Mysterious Type 3 Fonts Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Hopefully you guys can help me out with a peculiar problem we're having with our PDF-based production workflow. I've been having trouble printing PDF files to our RIP when some phantom Type 3 fonts with names like T2, T4, T6, T8, T10, T12, etc. somehow appear in some of our PDF files. Our Panther RIP gives an InvalidFont error when I try to print those PDF files. A few of the technical details of our system: all Macintosh workstations, only Type 1 fonts - no TrueType or Type 3 fonts installed (other than the system TrueTypes like Chicago, Geneva et al), and the problem can occur using either PSPrinter or Laserwriter 8.4.x, Acrobat Distiller 3.01. Now, the really, really strange part about these Type 3 fonts is that quite often, closing and then reopening to PDF file causes them to just dissappear from the font list and the file prints fine. That and the fact that I can't seem to isolate the conditions under which these files occur is really causing us some headaches when we try to output a large number of PDF files to our RIP. Does anyone have any incite into what's causing this, how to solve it or even what those Type 3 fonts are? David Wadson (wadsond@air.on.ca) Graphic Designer & Systems Assistant The Chronicle-Journal _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 21-Sep-1998 6:59:08-GMT,1883;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA28629 for ; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 00:59:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA19639; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 01:43:34 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 21 Sep 1998 01:39:30 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA19489; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 01:39:28 -0500 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19980921063516.00727a84@marilyn.uochb.cas.cz> X-Sender: valter@marilyn.uochb.cas.cz X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 08:35:16 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Bohumir Valter Subject: [PDF] How to install search engine? Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Hi, We would like to give our client possibility to search pdf documents on their server. (All pdf files are indexed). Where can I find more information how to install search engine? Client's WEB site is equipped with Apache software running on PentiumII machine with Linux OS(RedHat 5.1). Thank you for your help. Bohumir Valter Document Data Services _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 21-Sep-1998 9:39:34-GMT,2157;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA01425 for ; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 03:39:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA23999; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 04:09:48 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 21 Sep 1998 04:05:53 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA23881; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 04:05:51 -0500 Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 10:05:47 +0100 (BST) From: Ann Apps Message-Id: <199809210905.KAA14263@cs6400.mcc.ac.uk> To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] JPG to PDF X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== > From: Michael Stearne > > Does anyone know of a JPG to PDF or GIF to PDF conversion script for > Unix (Perl). > I expect ImageMagick can do this. It can convert between many graphics formats. It has both graphical and command line interfaces. But it's much more than just a Perl script! Look at: http://www.wizards.dupont.com/cristy/ImageMagick.html Ann -------------------------------------------------------------------- Mrs. Ann Apps. SuperJournal Project, Manchester Computing, University of Manchester, Oxford Road, Manchester, M13 9PL, UK. Tel: +44 (0) 161 275 6039 Fax: +44 (0) 161 275 6040 Email: Ann.Apps@mcc.ac.uk WWW: http://www.superjournal.ac.uk/sj/ -------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 21-Sep-1998 12:53:47-GMT,1806;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA04607 for ; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 06:53:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA31014; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 07:36:39 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 21 Sep 1998 07:33:56 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA30858; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 07:33:55 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: KEYCORP From: "Karen L Mibus" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <85256686.004479E4.00@keybank.com> Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 08:30:54 -0400 Subject: Re: [PDF] Status of Acrobat 3.5? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Erwin wrote: Gary, Sandra Rosenbaum said at the PDF-Day at Seybold that there will be a new version of Acrobat Reader which contains the recent fixes like PCL and OCX. AsI remember right she said that this version will be soon downloadable. But I couldn't find it till now. Erwin Erwin, where is the new version located? --Karen _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 21-Sep-1998 13:01:36-GMT,4105;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA04737 for ; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 07:01:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA31660; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 07:49:47 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 21 Sep 1998 07:47:02 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA31487; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 07:47:01 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: KEYCORP From: "Karen L Mibus" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <85256686.004550E6.00@keybank.com> Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 08:43:55 -0400 Subject: Re: [PDF] PS Driver Install & quality Issues Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Hugh Evans wrote: ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== >I noticed that when exporting PDF from Frame - my graphics are not "great" >quality - compared with distilling the same graphic "stand alone". any >thoughts? >Also, I notice that there are differences in color fidelity (richness) >between original .tiff files and the various methods of creating .pdf >files. Why is this? >Regards, >Hugh Evans We've had several discussions on the PDF discussion list regarding FrameMaker to PDF graphic quality. You can perform a search on the PDF lists archive to pull up the discussion e-mails. In the meantime, here is Dov Isaacs' very helpful response about the AdobePS 4.2.3 printer driver that ensures high quality PDFs: To reiterate THE official Adobe advice previously given on both the PDF and the Framer's lists, for Windows'9X, use the AdobePS 4.2.3 (or 4.2.2) driver (available for download from Adobe's web site) with the Distiller PPD found in the \Acrobat3\Distillr\XTRAS subdirectory. Any other combination is likely to cause significant problems in terms of proper rendering of graphics and/or text objects as well as color. The AdobePS 4.1.x driver suffered from a generic Windows bug that caused output to be monochrome if the default printer was a monochrome printer, regardless of what the "current" printer (i.e., the printer instance generating PostScript for distillation) is. PPDs for other PostScript devices result in very-device dependent PostScript being generated. Such device dependent features may either result in distillation failure because of PostScript errors and/or improperly rendered results. Unfortunately, due to the timing of the original release of Acrobat 3.0, the Distiller Assistant automatically associated itself with the default, very buggy, PSCRIPT PostScript driver that originally shipped with Windows'9X. If you have such an installation, you should delete the "Distiller" driver from the Printers folder and use the AdobePS 4.2.3 setup program to create a new printer instance to local device \distasst.ps using the Distiller PPD per above. - Dov Isaacs Director of Technology Analysis Printing & Systems Division Adobe Systems Incorporated _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 21-Sep-1998 13:35:30-GMT,2434;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA05439 for ; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 07:35:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA00248; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 08:14:46 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 21 Sep 1998 08:12:22 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA00115; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 08:12:21 -0500 Message-Id: <199809211312.IAA00110@everglades.binc.net> Date: 21 Sep 98 09:11:58 +0000 From: Justin Blocksom Subject: Re: [PDF] getting back to acd To: pdf X-Mailer: QuickMail Pro 1.5.2 (Mac) X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-Ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id IAA00111 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Reply to: Re: [PDF] getting back to acd >> ...how well does Illustrator (or Photoshop for that matter) >> communicate with PDF embedded font information? Does it come >> through? Is all text converted to outlines? Are there any >> cross-platform issues? (opening a PC PDF in Mac Illustrator). >> Any information would be great. Thanks > >As soon as you open the PDF in Illustrator to edit the line work >or other elements, you had better have the fonts available! > >-- >Shane Steinman >Logistics & Diagnostics, ArchAngel Media Inc. >email: shane@archangel.net So, it does not communicate with the embedded font information and thus relies entirely on the system resources? Thus making any editing in Illustrator non-cross platform compatable!? Justin Blocksom Printing & Publications Corp. jblocksom@printandpub.com _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 21-Sep-1998 14:06:56-GMT,2446;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA06197 for ; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 08:06:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA02215; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 08:49:34 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 21 Sep 1998 08:46:43 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA02047; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 08:46:41 -0500 Subject: Re: [PDF] Mysterious Type 3 Fonts Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 07:47:25 -0700 x-sender: dennisw@mail.inpractice.net x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: Dennis Walker To: "PDF Mail List" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-ID: <1305758456-56991457@mail.inpractice.net> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== David Wadson (wadsond@air.on.ca) wrote on 9/20/98 9:23 PM: >Now, the really, really strange part about these Type 3 fonts is that quite >often, closing and then reopening to PDF file causes them to just >dissappear from the font list and the file prints fine. That and the fact >that I can't seem to isolate the conditions under which these files occur >is really causing us some headaches when we try to output a large number of >PDF files to our RIP. Does anyone have any incite into what's causing this, >how to solve it or even what those Type 3 fonts are? One "back door" source of Type 3 fonts I believe is the raster-based frames in Quark. Apparently they get converted to Type 3 fonts at print time. Don't have a clue about the disappearing part. Dennis Walker dennisw@inpractice.net EVP/Production Mgr. 435-647-9910 InPractice Publications, Inc. 435-647-5927 fax _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 21-Sep-1998 16:12:16-GMT,2385;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA09443 for ; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 10:12:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA08199; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 10:36:01 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 21 Sep 1998 10:33:01 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA07978; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 10:32:59 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Status of Acrobat 3.5? Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 15:22:00 +0100 Message-ID: <000101bde574$dd04faa0$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-Reply-To: <85256686.004479E4.00@keybank.com> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== > Erwin wrote: > > Gary, > Sandra Rosenbaum said at the PDF-Day at Seybold that there > will be a new > version of Acrobat Reader which contains the recent fixes > like PCL and > OCX. AsI remember right she said that this version will be soon > downloadable. But I couldn't find it till now. > Erwin > > Erwin, where is the new version located? I think this is a subtle language difficulty. "I couldn't find it till now" can be interpreted as - I couldn't find it until recently, and now I have found it, or - I couldn't find it and still can't even now. >From the context of the messages, I think the second applies, and so your question does not have an answer. Aandi _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 21-Sep-1998 16:22:42-GMT,1890;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA09801 for ; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 10:22:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA10005; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 11:05:48 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 21 Sep 1998 11:03:15 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA09847; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 11:03:13 -0500 Message-ID: <01BDE53F.2780E160.jmaechtlen@amada.com> From: jmaechtlen@amada.com (Jay Maechtlen) To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 09:06:43 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Re: >Hi, > >I have pdfs which contain pictures and/or lines and we would like to remove >them. How can we do this? Anyone know how to go from a pdf back to acd >files? TIA. > >Sincerely, > >Nathan Keller This may be painfully obvious, but CorelDraw8 can open a PDF file, and you can edit, etc. I normally do this to snag graphics from publications that I did in an old software, such as Pagemaker, that I no longer have. Then I can use them in my documents, using CorelVentura . _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 21-Sep-1998 17:25:49-GMT,2366;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA11643 for ; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 11:25:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA14053; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 12:00:46 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 21 Sep 1998 11:57:24 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA13729; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 11:57:22 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980921130633.00911cb0@iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 13:06:33 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] getting back to acd In-Reply-To: <199809211312.IAA00110@everglades.binc.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== > >So, it does not communicate with the embedded font information and thus relies entirely on the system resources? Thus making any editing in Illustrator non-cross platform compatable!? > So far as I know, the first part of that is correct, in that Illustrator won't use fonts embedded in the PDF. Whether the second part necessarily follows depends on your expectations for x-platform compatibility. IOW, if you have FlyingWombatBold installed on both platforms and you refrain from using characters on the Mac that have no equivalent on the PC (or vice versa, depending on which direction you're headed with the PDFs), things should be fairly smooth. I don't think Adobe intends for us to use PDF as a font distribution mechanism, however. Steve Rindsberg/Prez RDP http://www.rdpslides.com _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 21-Sep-1998 19:41:57-GMT,3138;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA15597 for ; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 13:41:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA22663; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 14:17:35 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 21 Sep 1998 14:06:53 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA21884; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 14:06:51 -0500 Message-Id: <3606A387.3E3BD315@moen.com> Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 15:05:43 -0400 From: Jennifer Amon X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03C-SGI [en] (X11; I; IRIX 6.3 IP32) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Postscript vs. Encapsulated Postscript References: <3.0.5.32.19980921130633.00911cb0@iglou.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== I'm producing postscript files via a batch process (using Bentley's Microstation SE software), and the output is PS-Adobe-2.0 EPSF-1.2. What I really need is editable (plain) postscript, so that I can add a line of text along the edge of each page of the document. (Note: I'm already successfully doing all of this with the Postscript output from batch-plotted Pro/E drawing files, so editing the Postscript is not the problem.) I have contacted Bentley about plotting to "regular" Postscript instead of encapsulated postscript, but in case they come back with a negative response, here's my question: How can I translate encapsulated postscript to regular postscript. I have a couple of options for platform, but this needs to be able to run in an unattended fashion, with the process initiated from a unix box. Options: - Some utility which will run on unix from the command line - Some plug-in to Exchange which will run on NT, and which can be triggered via a watched directory, like the Distiller. In this case the driving files will be ftp'd to the watched directory. Thanks in advance for any help. Jennifer Amon -- _____________________________________________________________________ Jennifer R. Amon Phone: 440-962-2471 Sr. Programmer/Analyst FAX: 440-962-2739 Moen Incorporated Personal: jamon@apk.net 25300 Al Moen Drive Business: jamon@moen.com North Olmsted, OH 44070 Web: http://junior.apk.net/~jamon/ _____________________________________________________________________ _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 21-Sep-1998 20:56:20-GMT,2356;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA17693 for ; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 14:56:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA25392; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 15:04:15 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 21 Sep 1998 15:02:51 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA25282; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 15:02:49 -0500 Message-Id: <199809212002.PAA25277@everglades.binc.net> Date: 21 Sep 98 16:02:31 +0000 From: Justin Blocksom Subject: Re: [PDF] getting back to acd To: pdf X-Mailer: QuickMail Pro 1.5.2 (Mac) X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-Ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id PAA25278 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Reply to: Re: [PDF] getting back to acd >>So, it does not communicate with the embedded font information and thus >>relies entirely on the system resources? >> >So far as I know, the first part of that is correct, in that Illustrator >won't use fonts embedded in the PDF. > >I don't think Adobe intends for us to use PDF as a font distribution >mechanism, however. > >Steve Rindsberg/Prez >RDP >http://www.rdpslides.com > If that is true, and that is their reasoning behind their programming, why not make everybody's life easier and have Illustrator automatically convert all fonts to outlines when opening a PDF? No fonts, no copyright infringement. Just an idea. Justin Blocksom Printing & Publications Corp. jblocksom@printandpub.com _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 21-Sep-1998 20:57:52-GMT,4170;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA17722 for ; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 14:57:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA25680; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 15:08:41 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 21 Sep 1998 15:07:51 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA25617; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 15:07:49 -0500 Message-Id: <3606B1F3.87C4D0EC@moen.com> Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 16:07:15 -0400 From: Jennifer Amon X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03C-SGI [en] (X11; I; IRIX 6.3 IP32) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Re: Postscript vs. Encapsulated Postscript References: <3.0.5.32.19980921130633.00911cb0@iglou.com> <3606A387.3E3BD315@moen.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Additional info: This is apparently compressed EPS. I cannot edit it. I didn't know that there was a such thing as ASCII EPS. And, after editing, the file is being distilled to PDF. Additionally, someone said that EPS is not multi-page? The product I'm using needs to be able to produce muli-page documents, so I'll test and see if it produces plain postscript for the multi-page documents, and EPS for the single page. That would be weird, though. Thanks, Jennifer Jennifer Amon wrote: > > I'm producing postscript files via a batch process (using > Bentley's Microstation SE software), and the output is > PS-Adobe-2.0 EPSF-1.2. > > What I really need is editable (plain) postscript, so that > I can add a line of text along the edge of each page of the > document. > > (Note: I'm already successfully doing all of this with > the Postscript output from batch-plotted Pro/E drawing > files, so editing the Postscript is not the problem.) > > I have contacted Bentley about plotting to "regular" > Postscript instead of encapsulated postscript, but in case > they come back with a negative response, here's my question: > > How can I translate encapsulated postscript to regular > postscript. I have a couple of options for platform, but this > needs to be able to run in an unattended fashion, with the > process initiated from a unix box. > > Options: > - Some utility which will run on unix from the command line > - Some plug-in to Exchange which will run on NT, and which > can be triggered via a watched directory, like the Distiller. > In this case the driving files will be ftp'd to the watched > directory. > > Thanks in advance for any help. > > Jennifer Amon > > -- > _____________________________________________________________________ > Jennifer R. Amon Phone: 440-962-2471 > Sr. Programmer/Analyst FAX: 440-962-2739 > Moen Incorporated Personal: jamon@apk.net > 25300 Al Moen Drive Business: jamon@moen.com > North Olmsted, OH 44070 Web: http://junior.apk.net/~jamon/ > _____________________________________________________________________ -- _____________________________________________________________________ Jennifer R. Amon Phone: 440-962-2471 Sr. Programmer/Analyst FAX: 440-962-2739 Moen Incorporated Personal: jamon@apk.net 25300 Al Moen Drive Business: jamon@moen.com North Olmsted, OH 44070 Web: http://junior.apk.net/~jamon/ _____________________________________________________________________ _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 21-Sep-1998 21:08:26-GMT,2148;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA18016 for ; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 15:08:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA26575; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 15:24:43 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 21 Sep 1998 15:23:09 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA26437; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 15:23:04 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980921152618.019e0988@data-source.com> X-Sender: jzach@data-source.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 15:26:18 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Joe Zacharias Subject: Re: [PDF] Re: Postscript vs. Encapsulated Postscript In-Reply-To: <3606B1F3.87C4D0EC@moen.com> References: <3.0.5.32.19980921130633.00911cb0@iglou.com> <3606A387.3E3BD315@moen.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== At 04:07 PM 9/21/98 -0400, you wrote: > >====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== > >Additionally, someone said that EPS is not multi-page? >The product I'm using needs to be able to produce muli-page >documents, so I'll test and see if it produces plain >postscript for the multi-page documents, and EPS for the >single page. That would be weird, though. Yes - an eps file is "graphic" file format and so by definition can be no larger than 1 page. _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 21-Sep-1998 21:09:08-GMT,3711;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA18040 for ; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 15:09:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA27689; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 15:41:29 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 21 Sep 1998 15:39:06 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA27522; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 15:39:04 -0500 Message-ID: <3606B752.88382CEE@gel.com> Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 16:30:11 -0400 From: Alan Johnson Organization: General Engineering Labs, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5b2 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com, Philippe_Dachsbeck@CompuServe.COM Subject: Re: [PDF] Solution for fast printing of large PDF/image documents ? References: <006601bde152$d6de4260$a2c0a2c3@phil.customer.tvd.be> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------DF2011CC3C33D9A7BC2B91C5" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------DF2011CC3C33D9A7BC2B91C5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit We are able to push HP 5Si at full 24 PPM with PDF output. We can gang print to these to get a net 24 by X ppm, where X is the number of printers you choose to deploy. Very scalable! We regularly print 3-5k pages on this setup. Let me know if you need more info. Alan Philippe Dachsbeck wrote: > ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== > > What is the best workgroup printer for printing large PDF/image documents at > 40 ppm? > (300 dpi - 800 pages) ? > > Today, the answer seems to be: NONE except production printers like Xerox > Docutech > > We are facing a very ennoying issue with our long documents in PDF/image > format (200 & 300 dpi - 800 pages). : no single wide-spread workgroup > printer able to print faster than 10 ppm (average) ... > > We have tested various workgroup PS printers with plenty of memory: none > have passed the 15 ppm limit with our PDF/image documents. > > Who has already succeeded with PDf/image printing at 40 p > > _______________________________________________________ > > -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- > * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * > + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + > _______________________________________________________ --------------DF2011CC3C33D9A7BC2B91C5 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="alan.johnson.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Alan Johnson Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="alan.johnson.vcf" begin:vcard n:Johnson;Alan x-mozilla-html:FALSE org:General Engineering Labs, Inc. adr:;;;Charleston;SC;29414;USA version:2.1 email;internet:alan.johnson@gel.com title:IS Director tel;fax:843-556-1178 tel;home:843-559-6759 tel;work:843-556-8171 x-mozilla-cpt:;2 fn:Alan Johnson end:vcard --------------DF2011CC3C33D9A7BC2B91C5-- _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 21-Sep-1998 21:10:18-GMT,2903;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA18080 for ; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 15:10:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA28711; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 15:55:30 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 21 Sep 1998 15:53:07 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA28540; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 15:53:07 -0500 Message-ID: <3606CB2A.4974@archangel.net> Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 16:54:50 -0500 From: Shane Steinman Organization: ArchAngel Media Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] getting back to acd References: <3.0.5.32.19980921130633.00911cb0@iglou.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Various people wrote: > >So, it does not communicate with the embedded font information and thus > relies entirely on the system resources? Thus making any editing in > Illustrator non-cross platform compatable!? > > > > So far as I know, the first part of that is correct, in that Illustrator > won't use fonts embedded in the PDF. Whether the second part necessarily > follows depends on your expectations for x-platform compatibility. IOW, if > you have FlyingWombatBold installed on both platforms and you refrain from > using characters on the Mac that have no equivalent on the PC (or vice > versa, depending on which direction you're headed with the PDFs), things > should be fairly smooth. > > I don't think Adobe intends for us to use PDF as a font distribution > mechanism, however. One semi-possibility for resolving such dilemmae, might be to open the PDF on the PC side (where the fonts exist) in Illustrator 7, convert fonts to outline and THEN cross the river to the Mac for final editing. This is awkward, though, and removes the nice anti-aliased look of the former type. Or, you could use Helvetica and Times! Shane -- Shane Steinman Logistics & Diagnostics, ArchAngel Media Inc. 555 Sheppard Ave. W., Ste. 910, Toronto, Ont., CAN M3H 2R7 Tel. or Fax: (416) 410-6366 email: shane@archangel.net _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 21-Sep-1998 21:33:14-GMT,4095;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA18638 for ; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 15:33:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA30243; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 16:19:21 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 21 Sep 1998 16:16:57 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA30094; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 16:16:55 -0500 Message-ID: <3606D0BF.41A4@archangel.net> Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 17:18:39 -0500 From: Shane Steinman Organization: ArchAngel Media Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Re: Postscript vs. Encapsulated Postscript References: <3.0.5.32.19980921130633.00911cb0@iglou.com> <3606A387.3E3BD315@moen.com> <3606B1F3.87C4D0EC@moen.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Jennifer Amon wrote: > Additional info: > > This is apparently compressed EPS. I cannot edit it. > I didn't know that there was a such thing as ASCII EPS. The file may or may not be compressed, but it is probably binary-encoded. Generally, binary EPS files are half the size of ASCII files. ASCII PostScript is actually preferable for PDF conversion because of cross-platform issues. > And, after editing, the file is being distilled to PDF. > > Additionally, someone said that EPS is not multi-page? > The product I'm using needs to be able to produce muli-page > documents, so I'll test and see if it produces plain > postscript for the multi-page documents, and EPS for the > single page. That would be weird, though. Technically, it is possible to merge EPS pages into one file, however, the result will be that all the page data from each separate page will be sandwiched together. Yech! > Jennifer also wrote: > > I have contacted Bentley about plotting to "regular" > > Postscript instead of encapsulated postscript, but in case > > they come back with a negative response, here's my question: > > > > How can I translate encapsulated postscript to regular > > postscript. I have a couple of options for platform, but this > > needs to be able to run in an unattended fashion, with the > > process initiated from a unix box. > > > > Options: > > - Some utility which will run on unix from the command line > > - Some plug-in to Exchange which will run on NT, and which > > can be triggered via a watched directory, like the Distiller. > > In this case the driving files will be ftp'd to the watched > > directory. One solution might be to auto-import your EPS files into another application where you could use a variable data script to add the necessary lines you want to embed. Kind of a print-merge. Then, re-export to PostScript from that new app and make your PDF files - hopefully with ASCII PostScript. Another possibility might be to use a CGI script to plant your current EPS files into a PostScript ASCII shell of your own construction and automatically add the appropriate comments that you seek to include. Then use, the resulting PostScript shell to generate your PDF files. This could be very automatic. Shane -- Shane Steinman Logistics & Diagnostics, ArchAngel Media Inc. 555 Sheppard Ave. W., Ste. 910, Toronto, Ont., CAN M3H 2R7 Tel. or Fax: (416) 410-6366 email: shane@archangel.net _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 21-Sep-1998 21:44:03-GMT,2387;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA18898 for ; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 15:44:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA30611; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 16:23:53 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 21 Sep 1998 16:21:43 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA30438; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 16:21:42 -0500 Message-ID: <002501bde5a7$8ab5a0a0$13a6fed0@rmelanso.thecia.net> From: "Rick Melanson" To: Subject: [PDF] Capture Plugin Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 17:33:11 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Hello PDF ers!! I am fairly new to the list and using Acrobat products. My question is this, I am using the Capture plugin with Visioneer Paperport and HP Deskscan. I scan the pages onto the Paperport desktop, drag them onto the Adobe icon at the bottom of the page. Adobe creates the PDF files but when I view them, they are missing half the page. I can see the whole page when it is on the Paperport desktop but whatever Adobe is doing seems to be deleting half the page about. I am getting the feeling that I am overlooking something very simple but I feel like there are trees all around me and I am going blind. Please feel free to rib me, but please also can anyone give me a solution. Have a nice day. Rick Melanson Technical Writer Micrion Corp. rmelanso@micrion.com _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 21-Sep-1998 21:48:00-GMT,2158;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA18987 for ; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 15:47:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA31452; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 16:36:07 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 21 Sep 1998 16:33:40 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA31249; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 16:33:38 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] getting back to acd Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 22:28:35 +0100 Message-ID: <000801bde5a7$3effe9e0$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-Reply-To: <199809212002.PAA25277@everglades.binc.net> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== > > > If that is true, and that is their reasoning behind their > programming, why not make everybody's life easier and have > Illustrator automatically convert all fonts to outlines when > opening a PDF? No fonts, no copyright infringement. Just an idea. > Justin Blocksom Yuck! And lose the font hinting and bloat the files by an order of magnitude, and slow down screen display to a crawl? Occasionally valuable, perhaps, but hardly a good default. Aandi _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 21-Sep-1998 23:48:23-GMT,3308;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA22202 for ; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 17:48:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA04113; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 18:29:36 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 21 Sep 1998 18:26:51 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA03914; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 18:26:50 -0500 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19980921232614.00d9ad10@env-sol.com> X-Sender: thiersch@env-sol.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 16:26:14 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Tom Thiersch Subject: Re: [PDF] PS Driver Install & quality Issues Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Dov Isaacs, What are Adobe's equivalent [official] recommendations for the Windows NT4 environment? Thanks, Tom Thiersch At 08:43 AM 9/21/98 -0400, you wrote: > ... > To reiterate THE official Adobe advice previously given on both the > PDF and the Framer's lists, for Windows'9X, use the AdobePS 4.2.3 > (or 4.2.2) driver (available for download from Adobe's web site) with > the Distiller PPD found in the \Acrobat3\Distillr\XTRAS subdirectory. > Any other combination is likely to cause significant problems in terms > of proper rendering of graphics and/or text objects as well as color. > The AdobePS 4.1.x driver suffered from a generic Windows bug that caused > output to be monochrome if the default printer was a monochrome printer, > regardless of what the "current" printer (i.e., the printer instance > generating PostScript for distillation) is. > PPDs for other PostScript devices result in very-device dependent > PostScript > being generated. Such device dependent features may either result in > distillation failure because of PostScript errors and/or improperly > rendered > results. > Unfortunately, due to the timing of the original release of Acrobat 3.0, > the Distiller Assistant automatically associated itself with the > default, > very buggy, PSCRIPT PostScript driver that originally shipped with > Windows'9X. > If you have such an installation, you should delete the "Distiller" > driver > from the Printers folder and use the AdobePS 4.2.3 setup program to > create > a new printer instance to local device \distasst.ps using the Distiller > PPD > per above. > - Dov Isaacs > Director of Technology Analysis > Printing & Systems Division > Adobe Systems Incorporated > > _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 22-Sep-1998 4:57:35-GMT,3139;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA28811 for ; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 22:57:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA17368; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 23:40:42 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 21 Sep 1998 23:38:56 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA17275; Mon, 21 Sep 1998 23:38:55 -0500 Message-ID: <009501bde5e2$be9a6140$280d9fcf@default> From: "Jim and Marguerite Ripley" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] Capture Plugin Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 21:37:10 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2120.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2120.0 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== It would be interesting to know what version of Paperport you are using and what version of Exchange. For instance it is known that Paperport and Acrobat 3.01 are not compatible using the Acrobat icon on the Paperport desktop. If this is your situition, I have found the best option as follows: Scan 1 bit - 400 dpi Export as multipage tif Group 4 compression seems to work best Use Exchange File > Import > Image Use Capture plugin > >Hello PDF ers!! I am fairly new to the list and using Acrobat products. My >question is this, I am using the Capture plugin with Visioneer Paperport and >HP Deskscan. I scan the pages onto the Paperport desktop, drag them onto the >Adobe icon at the bottom of the page. Adobe creates the PDF files but when I >view them, they are missing half the page. I can see the whole page when it >is on the Paperport desktop but whatever Adobe is doing seems to be deleting >half the page about. I am getting the feeling that I am overlooking >something very simple but I feel like there are trees all around me and I am >going blind. Please feel free to rib me, but please also can anyone give me >a solution. Have a nice day. > >Rick Melanson >Technical Writer >Micrion Corp. >rmelanso@micrion.com > > > >_______________________________________________________ > >-> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- >* http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * >+ Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + >_______________________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 22-Sep-1998 6:21:00-GMT,3395;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA00886 for ; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 00:20:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA20244; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 01:02:34 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 22 Sep 1998 01:01:19 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA20165; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 01:01:18 -0500 Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 23:00:52 -0700 X-Sender: gcosimin@mail-345 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3606D0BF.41A4@archangel.net> References: <3.0.5.32.19980921130633.00911cb0@iglou.com> <3606A387.3E3BD315@moen.com> <3606B1F3.87C4D0EC@moen.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Gary Cosimini Subject: Re: [PDF] Re: Postscript vs. Encapsulated Postscript Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== >...ASCII PostScript is actually preferable >for PDF conversion because of cross-platform issues. Just an observation on this particular comment: the difference between using "ASCII" (7-bit) PostScript and binary (8 bit) is usually found in raster images*, such as scanned photos, or fonts. Since images take up a disproprtionate amount of file size, the difference in time required to save, transfer or process 7-bit ASCII files can be enormous. Acrobat Distiller can process either 8-bit binary or 7-bit ASCII representations regardless of platform of origin. The only case in which ASCII PostScript might be preferable is when a file transfer mechanism might construe a character sequence in a binary file as a control sequence (end of file, for example). This was something that occured in the early days of DTP, but rarely is an issue today. You could characterize it as urban legend! There should be no reason to mistrust binary PostScript, even in a mixed platform envronment. Most of the relevent gunk in a PostScript file which you might want to access programatically or with a text editor is in good ole 7-bit, human readable ASCII. Gary Cosimini Adobe Systems * There is at least one exception to this statement. When Acrobat emits PostScript Level 2 or 3, compressed "streams" such as page content would be downloaded in compressed mode, which would include high-ASCII (8 bit) characters. Images and compressed fonts would be downloaded in binary as well. Level 2 or 3 printers can decode compressed data on the fly, and it saves a lot in transmission time. There's plenty of detail on this in the PDF File Format Reference Manual, as well as in the PostScript Red Book. Take a look at the defintion of ASCII-85 for a meaningful explanation. _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 22-Sep-1998 12:34:12-GMT,3482;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA07564 for ; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 06:34:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA32187; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 07:13:19 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 22 Sep 1998 07:10:33 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA32009; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 07:10:31 -0500 Message-ID: <00EF773582D6D111939D00A0C9A92F6401B2FF17@il0015exch003u.ih.lucent.com> From: "Farrell, Kevin (Kevin)" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] Capture Plugin Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 07:10:19 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== When using the Capture plug-in, remember that it is a RESOURCE HOG! If you are working with multiple pages, try doing 5 to 10 at a time, not the entire "document." I had a similar problem recently, and capturing just a few pages at a time worked fine when doing the entire document resulted in missing text areas, as you've mentioned. _____________________________________ Kevin Farrell Lucent Technologies Electronic Media Networked Services (EMNS) email: mailto:kfarrell@lucent.com pager: 630.680.6367 text page: http://paging.acswireless.com/send.html (use pager number 630.680.6367) _____________________________________ -----Original Message----- From: Rick Melanson [mailto:rmelanso@MICRION.COM] Sent: Monday, September 21, 1998 4:33 PM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Capture Plugin ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Hello PDF ers!! I am fairly new to the list and using Acrobat products. My question is this, I am using the Capture plugin with Visioneer Paperport and HP Deskscan. I scan the pages onto the Paperport desktop, drag them onto the Adobe icon at the bottom of the page. Adobe creates the PDF files but when I view them, they are missing half the page. I can see the whole page when it is on the Paperport desktop but whatever Adobe is doing seems to be deleting half the page about. I am getting the feeling that I am overlooking something very simple but I feel like there are trees all around me and I am going blind. Please feel free to rib me, but please also can anyone give me a solution. Have a nice day. Rick Melanson Technical Writer Micrion Corp. rmelanso@micrion.com _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 22-Sep-1998 14:59:35-GMT,1964;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA10686 for ; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 08:59:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA07248; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 09:37:12 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 22 Sep 1998 09:35:02 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA07042; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 09:35:00 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980922104412.008458a0@iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 10:44:12 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] getting back to acd In-Reply-To: <199809212002.PAA25277@everglades.binc.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== >> >If that is true, and that is their reasoning behind their programming, why not make everybody's life easier and have Illustrator automatically convert all fonts to outlines when opening a PDF? No fonts, no copyright infringement. Just an idea. I wouldn't want it to do that automatically, but it'd certainly be a useful option at times. Steve Rindsberg/Prez RDP http://www.rdpslides.com _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 22-Sep-1998 15:03:03-GMT,2358;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA10765 for ; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 09:02:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA07864; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 09:45:38 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 22 Sep 1998 09:43:17 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA07662; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 09:43:15 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980922105228.00847100@iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 10:52:28 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] Capture Plugin In-Reply-To: <009501bde5e2$be9a6140$280d9fcf@default> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== > >====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== > >It would be interesting to know what version of Paperport you are using and >what version of Exchange. For instance it is known that Paperport and >Acrobat 3.01 are not compatible using the Acrobat icon on the Paperport >desktop. If this is your situition, I have found the best option as follows: > I wonder if this was corrected in a later version of the Paperport software. I found that in some cases I got *better* results going Paperport --> Acro3.01 icon --> OCR -- PDF than I could get via importing TIFFs into Exchange directly. In the former case, all went swimmingly. In the latter, Capture would reliably lock up and take Windows down with it. Go figure. Steve Rindsberg/Prez RDP http://www.rdpslides.com _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 22-Sep-1998 15:03:25-GMT,1949;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA10796 for ; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 09:03:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA07396; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 09:39:25 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 22 Sep 1998 09:37:13 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA07235; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 09:37:10 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980922104620.00845140@iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 10:46:20 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] Re: Postscript vs. Encapsulated Postscript In-Reply-To: <3606B1F3.87C4D0EC@moen.com> References: <3.0.5.32.19980921130633.00911cb0@iglou.com> <3606A387.3E3BD315@moen.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== > >This is apparently compressed EPS. I cannot edit it. >I didn't know that there was a such thing as ASCII EPS. > ASCII EPS/PS is the rule, rather than the exception, though it's possible to include binary information within either. Steve Rindsberg/Prez RDP http://www.rdpslides.com _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 22-Sep-1998 16:16:29-GMT,2171;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA12905 for ; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 10:15:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA07223; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 09:37:06 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 22 Sep 1998 09:33:44 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA06921; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 09:33:42 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980922104254.00840dd0@iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 10:42:54 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] Postscript vs. Encapsulated Postscript In-Reply-To: <3606A387.3E3BD315@moen.com> References: <3.0.5.32.19980921130633.00911cb0@iglou.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== > >How can I translate encapsulated postscript to regular >postscript. I have a couple of options for platform, but this >needs to be able to run in an unattended fashion, with the >process initiated from a unix box. > The Red Book describes what you need to do in order to print EPS from an application to PS. It should be fairly simple to surround the existing EPS with a little extra PS code to do what you need, since you're already familiar with PS editing. That's where I'd start. Steve Rindsberg/Prez RDP http://www.rdpslides.com _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 22-Sep-1998 16:17:18-GMT,2909;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA12952 for ; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 10:17:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA08172; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 09:49:34 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 22 Sep 1998 09:47:21 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA07988; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 09:47:19 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980922105631.00850470@iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 10:56:31 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] Re: Postscript vs. Encapsulated Postscript In-Reply-To: References: <3606D0BF.41A4@archangel.net> <3.0.5.32.19980921130633.00911cb0@iglou.com> <3606A387.3E3BD315@moen.com> <3606B1F3.87C4D0EC@moen.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== > >>...ASCII PostScript is actually preferable >>for PDF conversion because of cross-platform issues. > >Just an observation on this particular comment: the difference between >using "ASCII" (7-bit) PostScript and binary (8 bit) is usually found in >raster images*, such as scanned photos, or fonts. Since images take up a >disproprtionate amount of file size, the difference in time required to >save, transfer or process 7-bit ASCII files can be enormous. > >Acrobat Distiller can process either 8-bit binary or 7-bit ASCII >representations regardless of platform of origin. The only case in which >ASCII PostScript might be preferable is when a file transfer mechanism >might construe a character sequence in a binary file as a control sequence >(end of file, for example). In context of the original message (re EPS) I'd still argue that ASCII might be a safer choice, at least if you assume that the EPS might be used for other purposes in addition to becoming part of a PDF document (e.g. in DTP documents destined to be printed to laser printers). If they're to be used strictly for PDF, then no argument. Steve Rindsberg/Prez RDP http://www.rdpslides.com _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 22-Sep-1998 23:02:01-GMT,1915;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA24789 for ; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 17:01:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA03066; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 17:31:28 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 22 Sep 1998 17:24:27 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA02590; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 17:24:24 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Livingston, Thomas S" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Audio Files Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 15:23:16 -0700 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== When an audio file is used in a PDF document (via page action, form, etc.), my observation is that the audio file is actually embedded in the document. Therefore, when the PDF file is delivered to the client, I'd think it's not necessary to also deliver the actual audio files. Am I correct in this? Thanks! Tom Livingston 757/767 Flight Training FlightSafety Boeing (206) 662-7774 _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 22-Sep-1998 23:02:11-GMT,2615;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA24799 for ; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 17:02:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA03674; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 17:40:27 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 22 Sep 1998 17:36:43 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA03403; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 17:36:42 -0500 Message-ID: <360834B9.61D7370A@empa.ch> Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 00:37:31 +0100 From: Erwin Widmer Organization: EMPA X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5b2 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: de-CH, en-US MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Status of Acrobat 3.5? References: <85256686.004479E4.00@keybank.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Karen, I went through my notices and there I found that Sarah Rosenbaum said the new version should be called 3.2 and should be downloadable from the Adobe homepage. But I couldn't find it there till now. Erwin Karen L Mibus wrote: > ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== > > Erwin wrote: > > Gary, > Sandra Rosenbaum said at the PDF-Day at Seybold that there will be a new > version of Acrobat Reader which contains the recent fixes like PCL and > OCX. AsI remember right she said that this version will be soon > downloadable. But I couldn't find it till now. > Erwin > > Erwin, where is the new version located? > > --Karen > > _______________________________________________________ > > -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- > * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * > + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + > _______________________________________________________ _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 23-Sep-1998 2:20:20-GMT,1615;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA29505 for ; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 20:20:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA13039; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 20:55:07 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 22 Sep 1998 20:53:33 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA12956; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 20:53:31 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: inters-jharmon@pplus.shell6.ba.best.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199809222224.RAA02607@everglades.binc.net> Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 18:39:05 -0800 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Jeff Harmon Subject: [PDF] Acrobat 4.0? Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Any news on when a new iteration of Acrobat is due? 3.0 is quite old in software terms. . . . _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 23-Sep-1998 3:10:41-GMT,3104;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA00742 for ; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 21:10:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA15898; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 21:49:55 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 22 Sep 1998 21:48:53 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA15797; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 21:48:52 -0500 From: jeffmcarthur@home.com (Jeffrey McArthur) To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Re: Postscript vs. Encapsulated Postscript Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 02:38:03 GMT Organization: ATLIS Publishing Services Message-ID: <36095cab.14258234@mail> References: <3.0.5.32.19980921130633.00911cb0@iglou.com> <3606A387.3E3BD315@moen.com> <3606B1F3.87C4D0EC@moen.com> In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id VAA15793 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== On Mon, 21 Sep 1998 23:00:52 -0700, you wrote: >Acrobat Distiller can process either 8-bit binary or 7-bit ASCII >representations regardless of platform of origin. The only case in which >ASCII PostScript might be preferable is when a file transfer mechanism >might construe a character sequence in a binary file as a control sequence >(end of file, for example). This was something that occured in the early >days of DTP, but rarely is an issue today. You could characterize it as >urban legend! There should be no reason to mistrust binary PostScript, even >in a mixed platform envronment. In my experience, this is far from true. We basically lost a major contract because of the the problems that binary postscript files in a mixed network environment caused. If you are moving files between a Mac and a PC on a Novell 4.11 network, you should mandate that all postscript files be 7-bit ASCII. If they are not, well you may be in for some major problems. We adopted the standard that any 8-bit binary postscript file was forbidden on our network. Solved the vast majority of our problems. Jeffrey M\kern-.05em\raise.5ex\hbox{\b c}\kern-.05emArthur a.k.a. Jeffrey McArthur ATLIS Publishing Services http://members.home.net/jeffmcarthur/ _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 23-Sep-1998 7:12:26-GMT,2227;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA05956 for ; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 01:12:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA25478; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 01:50:06 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 23 Sep 1998 01:48:46 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA25399; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 01:48:45 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19980923084947.0099c100@ms90.vtex.lt> X-Sender: sarunas@ms90.vtex.lt X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 08:49:47 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Sarunas Subject: [PDF] distsadb.dos? In-Reply-To: <199809181707.RAA06383@eamail1.unisys.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Hello, can anybody shed some light on this: There is a file distsadb.dos located in /acrobat/distillr/data (Windows). Adobe paper "Creating a High Resolution PDF File..." recommends removing this file in order to "prevent unexpected font substitution". On Macintosh the same is for superatm.db in Acrobat:Fonts. Searching Acrobat SDK index yields no hits and on Adobe web site files are only listed in the contents of Acrobat installation tree. The file is binary and 5MB in size. If it provides for font substitution, what is the substitution table? Thanks! Sarunas Burdulis Head Electronic Publishing VTEX Ltd. sarunas@vtex.lt +370 2 729609; +370 98 24498 _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 23-Sep-1998 8:51:49-GMT,2772;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA07956 for ; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 02:51:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA28987; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 03:32:09 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 23 Sep 1998 03:30:20 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA28904; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 03:30:19 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] distsadb.dos? Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 09:15:00 +0100 Message-ID: <000501bde6cc$25b24980$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.19980923084947.0099c100@ms90.vtex.lt> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== > There is a file distsadb.dos located in > /acrobat/distillr/data (Windows). > Adobe paper "Creating a High Resolution PDF File..." > recommends removing > this file in order to "prevent unexpected font substitution". > On Macintosh > the same is for superatm.db in Acrobat:Fonts. > > Searching Acrobat SDK index yields no hits and on Adobe web > site files are > only listed in the contents of Acrobat installation tree. > > The file is binary and 5MB in size. If it provides for font > substitution, Both of these are the SuperATM database, something originally used by the SuperATM product. It contains information on every Adobe font, which allows an accurately spaced substitute font to be made for any font in the Adobe library. It does not specify a font to be used instead, but a set of rules for creating a multiple master font. The format is private; you cannot modify it or add your own fonts. By removing it you are ensuring it that this creation of substitute fonts does not take place, so you verify that all fonts needed for the job are present. Aandi _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 23-Sep-1998 10:00:06-GMT,2371;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA09132 for ; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 04:00:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA31307; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 04:35:48 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 23 Sep 1998 04:34:37 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA31236; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 04:34:36 -0500 Message-ID: <36094D48.81AD201B@realworld.com.au> Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 19:34:35 +0000 From: Dean Laffan X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Installer question References: <85256686.004550E6.00@keybank.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Hi All We are interested in producing a CD which contains a number of plug-in / utilities to install in sequence, ie Reader, QT3, Flash, Real Media Player etc. I seem to remember reading somewhere on one of the Acrobat CD's about a way of grafting extra installs onto the back of Reader...now I can't find it. Does anyone have a pointer for me ? We would be looking to do this for Mac PPC and Win'95/98/NT and we obviously need to allow the licenses to be seen and accepted for each install. I know I can have one written, but I seem to recall it was maybe half done already NOTE: please dumb down your answers ! Unlike some of you code warriors out there, we are but humble designers :-) and will be briefing someone to do this for us. TIA Dean Laffan Real World Productions _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 23-Sep-1998 13:37:45-GMT,2870;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA13183 for ; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 07:37:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA07133; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 08:13:33 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 23 Sep 1998 08:10:49 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA06945; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 08:10:47 -0500 Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 06:10:18 -0700 X-Sender: gcosimin@mail-345 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <36095cab.14258234@mail> References: <3.0.5.32.19980921130633.00911cb0@iglou.com> <3606A387.3E3BD315@moen.com> <3606B1F3.87C4D0EC@moen.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Gary Cosimini Subject: Re: [PDF] Re: Postscript vs. Encapsulated Postscript Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== >====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== > >On Mon, 21 Sep 1998 23:00:52 -0700, you wrote: > >>..There should be no reason to mistrust binary PostScript, even >>in a mixed platform envronment. > >In my experience, this is far from true. We basically lost a major contract >because of the the problems that binary postscript files in a mixed network >environment caused. If you are moving files between a Mac and a PC on a >Novell 4.11 network, you should mandate that all postscript files be 7-bit >ASCII. If they are not, well you may be in for some major problems. > >We adopted the standard that any 8-bit binary postscript file was forbidden >on our network. Solved the vast majority of our problems. Hmm, that's interesting. I have a pretty ancient Novell server in my office and have never had any problems with binary Mac-PC transfers of PostScript file. Around Adobe we have dozens more. We've been using Novell servers for moving PS files to Distiller since Day One. Do you have a concrete example of this? Perhaps there's a configuration option set on the server that's incorrect? Gary Cosimini Adobe Systems _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 23-Sep-1998 14:29:56-GMT,2435;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA14446 for ; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 08:29:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA07883; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 08:26:42 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 23 Sep 1998 08:24:29 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA07738; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 08:24:28 -0500 Message-ID: <3608F5C5.DED5D799@aip.org> Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 09:21:09 -0400 From: Chris Hamlin Organization: AIP X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; I; SunOS 5.6 sun4u) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Audio Files References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Livingston, Thomas S wrote: > > ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== > > When an audio file is used in a PDF document (via page action, form, > etc.), my observation is that the audio file is actually embedded in the > document. Therefore, when the PDF file is delivered to the client, I'd > think it's not necessary to also deliver the actual audio files. Am I > correct in this? > From looking at the PDF spec (v1.2) it appears that you can directly embed sounds into the PDF. But the only way I saw to actually get sounds to work is via the Movie tool in Exchange, which seemed to make a link instead of embedding the sound. So I'm interested too. Does embedded sound ``work''? Is embedding the sound a job for a custom plugin, and will the sound then play on any platform? -- Chris Hamlin chamlin@aip.org _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 23-Sep-1998 14:55:07-GMT,4829;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA15224 for ; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 08:54:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA12344; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 09:34:16 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 23 Sep 1998 09:31:35 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA12054; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 09:31:32 -0500 Message-Id: <199809231431.HAA21560@mail-303.corp.Adobe.COM> X-Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated X-Division: Printing & Systems Division X-Department: Technology Analysis Department X-URL: X-Location: Remote (ISAACS_REMOTE) X-Sender: isaacs@mail-303 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.2 Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 07:31:12 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Dov Isaacs Subject: [PDF] Re: Postscript vs. Encapsulated Postscript In-Reply-To: References: <36095cab.14258234@mail> <3.0.5.32.19980921130633.00911cb0@iglou.com> <3606A387.3E3BD315@moen.com> <3606B1F3.87C4D0EC@moen.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Actually, the reason why binary works OK on NetWare-based servers at Adobe is because the NetWare queues are properly configured and because users are (hopefully) instructed on how to configure the drivers. First problem is that NetWare often attempts to be too smart for its own good. If you indicate to NetWare that the printer is a PostScript printer, it attempts to deal with certain issues related to fonts, binary escaping, etc. Best way to configure a NetWare queue/print server is as "not PostScript" although "binary." In other words, don't let NetWare screw with the file at all. Second problem is configuration of drivers per the "driver properties" in Windows. Disable header pages. Also, do NOT let a "form feed" be added to the job. In terms of ASCII and binary settings, it all depends on how the printer is connected to the network. If it is connected as a NetWare print server and is from HP, IBM, or Xerox, you should use the "tagged binary communications protocol" and NOT check the CTRL-D boxes. If it connected via AppleTalk using NetWare's ATPS (AppleTalk Print Services), then use "pure binary" again without checking any of the CTRL-D boxes. For other manufacturers, check with their documentation or technical support. It is our experience with NetWare 4.x and earlier that use of ATPS is "iffy" at best in the general case. Sending PostScript to a NetWare queue from a Mac is also somewhat "iffy" in terms of ASCII versus binary, especially since the Macintosh drivers do not support BCP and TBCP quoting for NetWare Server-connected printers. - Dov At 9/23/98 06:10 AM , Gary Cosimini wrote: >>====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== >> >>On Mon, 21 Sep 1998 23:00:52 -0700, you wrote: >> >>>..There should be no reason to mistrust binary PostScript, even >>>in a mixed platform envronment. >> >>In my experience, this is far from true. We basically lost a major contract >>because of the the problems that binary postscript files in a mixed network >>environment caused. If you are moving files between a Mac and a PC on a >>Novell 4.11 network, you should mandate that all postscript files be 7-bit >>ASCII. If they are not, well you may be in for some major problems. >> >>We adopted the standard that any 8-bit binary postscript file was forbidden >>on our network. Solved the vast majority of our problems. > >Hmm, that's interesting. I have a pretty ancient Novell server in my office >and have never had any problems with binary Mac-PC transfers of PostScript >file. Around Adobe we have dozens more. We've been using Novell servers for >moving PS files to Distiller since Day One. > >Do you have a concrete example of this? Perhaps there's a configuration >option set on the server that's incorrect? > >Gary Cosimini >Adobe Systems _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 23-Sep-1998 14:56:22-GMT,3713;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA15264 for ; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 08:56:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA13144; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 09:42:49 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 23 Sep 1998 09:40:30 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA12967; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 09:40:26 -0500 Message-ID: <004701bde6ff$16d44160$b2c314d1@Prometheus.main> From: "Ian Lurie" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] Audio Files Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 07:32:21 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== I believe that you can EMBED .aif or .wav files in PDF, which may limit your users' ability to play sound on both a PC and a Mac. You can ATTACH sound as a Quicktime movie using the movie tool - then the sound is not embedded, but anyone with the Quicktime player, whether they're on a Mac or PC, can play the sound. Also, if you attach the sound and have a button to play it, then users viewing the file over the web have the option of not playing the sound, and not having to download the sound file.... Ian Lurie The Written Word, Inc. Information Design Online, On Paper, and On the Web Adobe Acrobat and FrameMaker Training and Consulting http://www.writtenword.com -----Original Message----- From: Chris Hamlin To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: Wednesday, September 23, 1998 6:31 AM Subject: Re: [PDF] Audio Files > >====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== > >Livingston, Thomas S wrote: >> >> ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== >> >> When an audio file is used in a PDF document (via page action, form, >> etc.), my observation is that the audio file is actually embedded in the >> document. Therefore, when the PDF file is delivered to the client, I'd >> think it's not necessary to also deliver the actual audio files. Am I >> correct in this? >> > > From looking at the PDF spec (v1.2) it appears that you can directly embed >sounds into the PDF. But the only way I saw to actually get sounds to work >is via the Movie tool in Exchange, which seemed to make a link instead >of embedding the sound. > > So I'm interested too. Does embedded sound ``work''? Is embedding the >sound a job for a custom plugin, and will the sound then play on >any platform? > >-- > >Chris Hamlin >chamlin@aip.org > >_______________________________________________________ > >-> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- >* http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * >+ Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + >_______________________________________________________ > > > _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 23-Sep-1998 16:28:07-GMT,5242;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA17968 for ; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 10:27:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA20494; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 11:12:03 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 23 Sep 1998 11:09:52 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA20316; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 11:09:51 -0500 Message-ID: <00b601bde70b$937ad880$b2c314d1@Prometheus.main> From: "Ian Lurie" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] Audio Files Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 09:02:10 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Karen, To embed sound in a page, you create a page action, link or field that plays the sound. That automatically embeds the sound file in the PDF. I've attached a PDF file with a sound embedded as a page action. Let me know if this works... Note: I did NOT attach the PDF to the copy of this email sent to the PDF list... Ian Lurie The Written Word, Inc. Information Design Online, On Paper, and On the Web email: ian@writtenword.com web: http://www.writtenword.com -----Original Message----- From: Karen L Mibus To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: Wednesday, September 23, 1998 9:00 AM Subject: Re: [PDF] Audio Files > >====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== > > >Ian and all PDF@lists subscribers: > >I was unable to embed either audio or video files. As far as I can >determine, Exchange offers the ability to link audio or video files only. >I tested the inclusion of both video and audio files for a PDF presentation >I gave on my company's Intranet. Both audio and video files were included >with the PDF file on the server. A couple of the participants with modems >could not view the video files. The audio, however, worked fine. Other >participants with network access to our Intranet were able to view the >video and hear the audio but experienced some delay. All participants with >Internet Explorer 4+ installed the OCX fix. I tested using IE 4+ without >the fix for viewing videos in a PDF file and the videos did not play. I >received an error message claiming the file could not be found. When I >installed the OCX fix, the videos played without problem. > >I also e-mailed the PDF file along with the audio and video files to the >remote participants. They were able to play both the audio and video files >within Exchange without problem. Of course, I had to tell them to keep the >PDF file in the same file as the audio and video files. > >I learned from Adobe that video files linked to a PDF file on the Internet >or an Intranet are known to not work well, if at all. However, audio and >video files work fine with a PDF on a CDROM or when stored on a hard drive. > >>From the user's perspective, it certainly would be better to embed the >files in the PDF even if this increased the file size significantly. >Please let me know if there is a way to do this. > >--Karen > >---------------------- Forwarded by Karen L Mibus/NE/KSC/KeyCorp on >09/23/98 11:28 AM --------------------------- > >Ian Lurie wrote: > > ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== > I believe that you can EMBED .aif or .wav files in PDF, which may limit > your > users' ability to play sound on both a PC and a Mac. You can ATTACH > sound as > a Quicktime movie using the movie tool - then the sound is not embedded, > but > anyone with the Quicktime player, whether they're on a Mac or PC, can > play > the sound. Also, if you attach the sound and have a button to play it, > then > users viewing the file over the web have the option of not playing the > sound, and not having to download the sound file.... > Ian Lurie > The Written Word, Inc. > Information Design Online, On Paper, and On the Web > Adobe Acrobat and FrameMaker Training and Consulting > http://www.writtenword.com > > > > > >_______________________________________________________ > >-> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- >* http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * >+ Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + >_______________________________________________________ > > > _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 23-Sep-1998 16:29:13-GMT,3110;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA18017 for ; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 10:29:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA20403; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 11:11:03 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 23 Sep 1998 11:08:47 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA20224; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 11:08:45 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Audio Files Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 16:19:35 +0100 Message-ID: <000e01bde70c$305f07c0$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-Reply-To: <004701bde6ff$16d44160$b2c314d1@Prometheus.main> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== > I believe that you can EMBED .aif or .wav files in PDF, which > may limit your > users' ability to play sound on both a PC and a Mac. You can > ATTACH sound as > a Quicktime movie using the movie tool - then the sound is > not embedded, but > anyone with the Quicktime player, whether they're on a Mac or > PC, can play > the sound. Also, if you attach the sound and have a button to > play it, then > users viewing the file over the web have the option of not playing the > sound, and not having to download the sound file.... As a matter of fact, the file is not embedded in its original format (just as a TIFF graphic is no longer a TIFF once inside a PDF). Here's a teaser from the PDF reference manual about how sounds are represented: Type (Required) Stream type. Always "Sound" R (Required) Sample rate, in samples per second. C (Optional) Number of sound channels in the data. The default is 1. B (Optional) Number of bits per sample value (per channel). The default is 8. E (Optional) The format of the sample data. Allowable values are: Raw: unspecified or unsigned values, 0 to 2 B (Bits) - 1. Signed: two’s-complement values. muLaw: m-law encoded samples. ALaw: A-law encoded samples. The default is Raw. ... and there is more. So this is no longer tied to a platform or file format. I have a question, just for my own curiosity: what platforms support the playing of sounds from Acrobat? Aandi _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 23-Sep-1998 15:23:11-GMT,2385;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA16016 for ; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 09:22:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA14998; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 10:03:48 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 23 Sep 1998 10:01:10 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA14655; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 10:01:07 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Audio Files Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 14:47:21 +0100 Message-ID: <000d01bde702$bdce32c0$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-Reply-To: <3608F5C5.DED5D799@aip.org> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== > From looking at the PDF spec (v1.2) it appears that you can > directly embed > sounds into the PDF. But the only way I saw to actually get > sounds to work > is via the Movie tool in Exchange, which seemed to make a link instead > of embedding the sound. > > So I'm interested too. Does embedded sound ``work''? Is > embedding the > sound a job for a custom plugin, and will the sound then play on > any platform? Yes, it works. PLAY SOUND is a type of action implemented in Exchange like the PLAY MOVIE action. I'd only recommend it for short snippets because there are no controls for the player. You can see an example in the second Hallowe'en example on http://www.quite.com/acrobat/samples. Aandi _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 23-Sep-1998 16:11:12-GMT,3977;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA17524 for ; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 10:11:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA18474; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 10:52:02 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 23 Sep 1998 10:49:13 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA18264; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 10:49:12 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: KEYCORP From: "Karen L Mibus" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <85256688.0054C2FF.00@keybank.com> Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 11:45:50 -0400 Subject: Re: [PDF] Audio Files Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Ian and all PDF@lists subscribers: I was unable to embed either audio or video files. As far as I can determine, Exchange offers the ability to link audio or video files only. I tested the inclusion of both video and audio files for a PDF presentation I gave on my company's Intranet. Both audio and video files were included with the PDF file on the server. A couple of the participants with modems could not view the video files. The audio, however, worked fine. Other participants with network access to our Intranet were able to view the video and hear the audio but experienced some delay. All participants with Internet Explorer 4+ installed the OCX fix. I tested using IE 4+ without the fix for viewing videos in a PDF file and the videos did not play. I received an error message claiming the file could not be found. When I installed the OCX fix, the videos played without problem. I also e-mailed the PDF file along with the audio and video files to the remote participants. They were able to play both the audio and video files within Exchange without problem. Of course, I had to tell them to keep the PDF file in the same file as the audio and video files. I learned from Adobe that video files linked to a PDF file on the Internet or an Intranet are known to not work well, if at all. However, audio and video files work fine with a PDF on a CDROM or when stored on a hard drive. >From the user's perspective, it certainly would be better to embed the files in the PDF even if this increased the file size significantly. Please let me know if there is a way to do this. --Karen ---------------------- Forwarded by Karen L Mibus/NE/KSC/KeyCorp on 09/23/98 11:28 AM --------------------------- Ian Lurie wrote: ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== I believe that you can EMBED .aif or .wav files in PDF, which may limit your users' ability to play sound on both a PC and a Mac. You can ATTACH sound as a Quicktime movie using the movie tool - then the sound is not embedded, but anyone with the Quicktime player, whether they're on a Mac or PC, can play the sound. Also, if you attach the sound and have a button to play it, then users viewing the file over the web have the option of not playing the sound, and not having to download the sound file.... Ian Lurie The Written Word, Inc. Information Design Online, On Paper, and On the Web Adobe Acrobat and FrameMaker Training and Consulting http://www.writtenword.com _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 23-Sep-1998 17:11:16-GMT,3120;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA19350 for ; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 11:11:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA21992; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 11:33:21 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 23 Sep 1998 11:30:50 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA21804; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 11:30:48 -0500 Message-ID: <360922F2.8646AC55@lsijax.com> Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 12:33:54 -0400 From: "Tracie K. DeVoe" Organization: Logistic Services International X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Audio Files X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: <000e01bde70c$305f07c0$0101c6c0@gateway> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Aandi Inston wrote: > Here's a teaser from the PDF reference manual about how sounds > are > represented: > > Type (Required) Stream type. Always "Sound" > R (Required) Sample rate, in samples per second. > C (Optional) Number of sound channels in the data. The default > is 1. > B (Optional) Number of bits per sample value (per channel). The > default is > 8. > E (Optional) The format of the sample data. Allowable values > are: > Raw: unspecified or unsigned values, 0 to 2 B (Bits) - 1. > Signed: two’s-complement values. > muLaw: m-law encoded samples. > ALaw: A-law encoded samples. > The default is Raw. > ... and there is more. > > So this is no longer tied to a platform or file format. > > I have a question, just for my own curiosity: what platforms > support > the playing of sounds from Acrobat? > Well, I have sound clips in PDF files that play in both Win95 and Win NT 4.0. However, I should mention that I access them mainly by 'Open File' so that the operating system will use the default association to play the files. The only headache is that this then causes the reader to display that warning window of 'about to launch an external application......'. If I use the 'Sound' method to play sound files, I don't receive this warning. Tracie +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Tracie DeVoe Logistic Services International 1851 Ehringhaus St. #101 Elizabeth City, NC 27909 PH#: (252) 335-6239 FAX: (252) 335-6463 email: tdevoe@lsijax.com +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 23-Sep-1998 18:26:36-GMT,2233;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA21450 for ; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 12:26:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA24924; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 12:15:11 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 23 Sep 1998 12:12:27 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA24708; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 12:12:25 -0500 X-Sender: quartet@pop.wanadoo.fr Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: Eudora F1.5.3 Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 19:12:49 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: quartet@wanadoo.fr (Eric Wannin) Subject: [PDF] Bleeds and QuarkXpress Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Hello, Does someone know how to conserve bleeds of a QuarkXpress document using the Adobe Acrobat 3.0 Printer Description File when creating a PostScript file ? I know that it is possible to have graphics or texts beyond the bounding box, but I don't know how to enforce the creation of the PostScript file without cropping the document at a wrong size. Is this a permanent limit of actual drivers ? Thank you ================================= ATTENTION new E.mail : contact@quartet.fr ================================= Eric Wannin - Sales & Marketing Manager Quartet Systems Saint Veran 84220 Goult France Tel : 33 (0)4 90 72 48 48 Fax : 33 (0)4 90 72 42 80 E.mail : contact@quartet.fr Web : http://www.quartet.fr ================================= _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 23-Sep-1998 18:34:25-GMT,4519;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA21691 for ; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 12:34:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA29103; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 13:13:08 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 23 Sep 1998 13:10:47 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA28945; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 13:10:43 -0500 Message-ID: <35A50314000166D2@mailhost.jdpub.com> (added by mailhost.jdpub.com) Date: 23 Sep 98 12:13:21 -0600 From: Jeff Rochon Subject: RE: [PDF] Bleeds and QuarkXpress To: pdf X-Mailer: QuickMail Pro 1.5.3 (Mac) X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-Ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id NAA28941 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Reply to: RE: [PDF] Bleeds and QuarkXpress hi eric, you should simple be able to turn on registration within the quark print window. it will also add registration marks, but all bleeds will be there in the final pdf file. without registration most postscript files are created with a bounding box set to the actual page size, cutting off the bleeds. if you don't want registration marks, increasing the document size to place the bleeds on the page would work. hope this helps. jeff rochon jdtv, inc. quartet wrote: > >====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== > >Hello, > >Does someone know how to conserve bleeds of a QuarkXpress document using >the Adobe Acrobat 3.0 Printer Description File when creating a PostScript >file ? >I know that it is possible to have graphics or texts beyond the bounding >box, but I don't know how to enforce the creation of the PostScript file >without cropping the document at a wrong size. > >Is this a permanent limit of actual drivers ? > >Thank you > > >================================= >ATTENTION new E.mail : contact@quartet.fr >================================= >Eric Wannin - Sales & Marketing Manager >Quartet Systems >Saint Veran >84220 Goult >France >Tel : 33 (0)4 90 72 48 48 >Fax : 33 (0)4 90 72 42 80 >E.mail : contact@quartet.fr >Web : http://www.quartet.fr >================================= > > > >_______________________________________________________ > >-> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- >* http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * >+ Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + >_______________________________________________________ > > > >RFC822 header >----------------------------------- > > Return-Path: > Received: from everglades.binc.net (208.155.48.8) by mailhost.jdpub.com >(Worldmail 1.3.167) for jrochon@wi.jdtv.com; 23 Sep 1998 12:23:44 -0500 > Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) > by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA24852; > Wed, 23 Sep 1998 12:14:40 -0500 > Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 23 Sep 1998 >12:12:27 -0500 > Received: (from majordom@localhost) > by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA24708; > Wed, 23 Sep 1998 12:12:25 -0500 > X-Sender: quartet@pop.wanadoo.fr > Message-Id: > Mime-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > X-Mailer: Eudora F1.5.3 > Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 19:12:49 +0200 > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > From: quartet@wanadoo.fr (Eric Wannin) > Subject: [PDF] Bleeds and QuarkXpress > Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ > Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html > Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com > _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 23-Sep-1998 23:24:37-GMT,2606;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA29497 for ; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 17:24:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA13467; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 17:57:07 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 23 Sep 1998 17:49:39 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA12953; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 17:49:36 -0500 Message-Id: Subject: [PDF] TeX to PDF Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 00:49:28 +0200 x-sender: dtripp@pop03.bitmailer.net x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: dtripp To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== A coworker sent me the query below but I have no experience with TeX and cannot help him. >Geoff Walsh pointed out to me that there is a potential problem in >producing PDF's of documents that started life as TeX files. They can >routinely be converted to Postscript and then distilled to PDF. But if the >original TeX fonts were bitmaps produced by METAFONT, which I believe is >the most common format, the resulting PDF looks really crappy in Acrobat >Reader. (It still prints out just fine.) For a typical example, see > >ftp.logicon.com/ongoing/dswacwe/Rameau/jprsampl.pdf > >Apparently there is no way at all to improve the quality of the on-screen >appearance except to use postscript fonts rather than bitmaps. I don't >know how widely available these are for ordinary (non-musical) documents. >I know they are not available at all for the music fonts, and I've never >used them in any other context either. I looked at the file, short musical score. On screen the vertical line at the ends of the lines is not visible. There are other differences - minor but important. Any thoughts? Dick Tripp _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 24-Sep-1998 1:19:31-GMT,1886;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA02213 for ; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 19:19:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA02200; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 19:56:45 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 23 Sep 1998 19:54:06 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA02036; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 19:54:04 -0500 Message-ID: <000801bde74d$88a73740$4d4caccf@mcglinn> From: "Kathy McGlinn" To: Subject: [PDF] Printing a List of PDF File Names Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 20:54:37 -0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== >From Windows Explorer, I want to print a listing of pdf files in a specific directory. I thought there would be a print option to only print a list of file names not the actual file. Using DOS you could print a directory to a file or printer. Any suggestions? Thanks!! _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 24-Sep-1998 1:31:52-GMT,2187;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA02478 for ; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 19:31:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA03547; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 20:19:57 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 23 Sep 1998 20:18:57 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA03466; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 20:18:55 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Wraight, David D." To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Printing a List of PDF File Names Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 09:23:51 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Kathy, I have 2 ideas - 1. Run a COMMAND prompt and then do a DIR listing to the printer - DIR > LPT1. OR 2. Download a program called ExpPrint which is a shell extension for Explorer allowing you do all sorts of wonderful directory listings. I found the www address for you: http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/jdd/ Hope this helps. d............................. > From Windows Explorer, I want to print a listing of pdf files in a > specific > directory. I thought there would be a print option to only print a > list of > file names not the actual file. Using DOS you could print a directory > to a > file or printer. Any suggestions? _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 24-Sep-1998 12:54:15-GMT,2462;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA15705 for ; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 06:54:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA03473; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 07:34:31 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 24 Sep 1998 07:30:43 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA02486; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 07:30:39 -0500 Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 08:29:52 -0400 From: Michael Vorel Subject: [PDF] Mysterious Type 3 Fonts To: "INTERNET:pdf@lists.pdfzone.com" Message-ID: <199809240830_MC2-5A83-44CB@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id HAA02480 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Message text written by INTERNET:pdf@lists.pdfzone.com >Hopefully you guys can help me out with a peculiar problem we're having with our PDF-based production workflow. I've been having trouble printing PDF files to our RIP when some phantom Type 3 fonts with names like T2, T4, T6, T8, T10, T12, etc. somehow appear in some of our PDF files. Our Panther RIP gives an InvalidFont error when I try to print those PDF files.< Many RIPs provide the option of "substitute fonts - yes/no". Yes, will normally allow any file to print, though output may not be as expected. No, will stop the RIP. If these are in fact "phantoms" and merely intermittent font statement calls with no real character streams, this may help you wade through until the culprit can be found. michael vorel Bowne Business Solutions 555 5th Ave New York, NY 10017 212-351-9019 _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 24-Sep-1998 12:54:15-GMT,2221;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA15706 for ; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 06:54:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA03950; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 07:36:31 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 24 Sep 1998 07:34:21 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA03415; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 07:34:19 -0500 Message-ID: <001601bde7b7$e74608c0$31af5c18@708714231.tampabay.rr.com> From: "Chris Lane" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] Printing a List of PDF File Names Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 08:36:03 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== >From the DOS command prompt, go to the subdirectory that you want to list and type DIR >dir.txt That will put the directory listing into a file called dir.txt (or whatever). You can then open dir.txt in an editor and clean it up. Chris Lane Computer Multimedia Produtions Corp. Kathy McGlinn wrote: >From Windows Explorer, I want to print a listing of pdf files in a specific >directory. I thought there would be a print option to only print a list of >file names not the actual file. Using DOS you could print a directory to a >file or printer. Any suggestions? _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 24-Sep-1998 13:15:07-GMT,2980;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA16120 for ; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 07:15:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA09132; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 08:00:34 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 24 Sep 1998 07:58:23 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA08924; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 07:58:22 -0500 Message-ID: <360A4136.E966C40F@aip.org> Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 08:55:18 -0400 From: Chris Hamlin Organization: AIP X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; I; SunOS 5.6 sun4u) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] TeX to PDF References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== dtripp wrote: > > ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== > > A coworker sent me the query below but I have no experience with TeX and > cannot help him. > > >Geoff Walsh pointed out to me that there is a potential problem in > >producing PDF's of documents that started life as TeX files. They can > >routinely be converted to Postscript and then distilled to PDF. But if the > >original TeX fonts were bitmaps produced by METAFONT, which I believe is > >the most common format, the resulting PDF looks really crappy in Acrobat > >Reader. (It still prints out just fine.) For a typical example, see > > > >ftp.logicon.com/ongoing/dswacwe/Rameau/jprsampl.pdf > > > >Apparently there is no way at all to improve the quality of the on-screen > >appearance except to use postscript fonts rather than bitmaps. I don't > >know how widely available these are for ordinary (non-musical) documents. > >I know they are not available at all for the music fonts, and I've never > >used them in any other context either. > > I looked at the file, short musical score. On screen the vertical line at > the ends of the lines is not visible. There are other differences - minor > but important. > > Any thoughts? > > My thoughts: your co-worker already knows the score. But anyway, here are the details: http://www.adobe.com/supportservice/custsupport/SOLUTIONS/543e.htm -- Chris Hamlin chamlin@aip.org _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 24-Sep-1998 13:15:26-GMT,2440;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA16132 for ; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 07:15:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA09047; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 07:59:34 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 24 Sep 1998 07:57:17 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA08839; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 07:57:16 -0500 Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 08:56:46 -0400 From: Michael Vorel Subject: Re: [PDF] Re: Postscript vs. Encapsulated Postscript To: "INTERNET:pdf@lists.pdfzone.com" Message-ID: <199809240857_MC2-5A83-4803@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id HAA08835 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Message text written by INTERNET:pdf@lists.pdfzone.com >In my experience, this is far from true. We basically lost a major contract because of the the problems that binary postscript files in a mixed network environment caused. If you are moving files between a Mac and a PC on a Novell 4.11 network, you should mandate that all postscript files be 7-bit ASCII. If they are not, well you may be in for some major problems. We adopted the standard that any 8-bit binary postscript f< The problem is not 8 vs 7 bit per se, the problem you may have experienced is inconsistent or incomplete configuration of the Mac relative to Novell services. I have experienced these configuration issues at many client sites and overcome them with changes to the configuration. michael vorel Bowne Business Services _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 24-Sep-1998 13:40:06-GMT,3082;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA16607 for ; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 07:40:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA09618; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 08:06:28 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 24 Sep 1998 08:04:17 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA09407; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 08:04:14 -0500 From: "Jeremy Treister" To: Cc: Subject: [PDF] Installer question Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 08:10:43 -0500 Message-ID: <000001bde7bc$bc1c6f90$0100a8c0@jtreister.interaccess.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2120.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <199809232249.RAA12970@everglades.binc.net> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== You can write an Install Shield program that installs each of these programs in sequence for the Win'95/98/NT platform. This way, users click a single "Setup.exe" to run the whole installation. We did this for a CD product I recently managed (including three software packages). Regarding Mac, I am not sure. ----- As an aside...Unless things have changed in the last three months, you cannot view QuickTime files within a PDF file unless you give users QuickTime 2.12. The "Movie" plug-in that ships with Acrobat Reader for Windows does not work with QT3. You cannot include an installer for QT2.12 because of licensing issues with Apple. In the end, for my project, we ended up going with the Windows native AVI format for the videos, since we did not need Mac functionality. Jeremy Treister jtreister@mail.com (773)975-0787 ----- Dean wrote: We are interested in producing a CD which contains a number of plug-in / utilities to install in sequence, ie Reader, QT3, Flash, Real Media Player etc. I seem to remember reading somewhere on one of the Acrobat CD's about a way of grafting extra installs onto the back of Reader...now I can't find it. Does anyone have a pointer for me ? We would be looking to do this for Mac PPC and Win'95/98/NT and we obviously need to allow the licenses to be seen and accepted for each install. _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 24-Sep-1998 16:38:23-GMT,2037;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA21180 for ; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 10:38:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA26770; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 11:03:18 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 24 Sep 1998 11:00:09 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA26195; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 11:00:04 -0500 Message-ID: <3162C3A36143D211AF1800104B6FEC93068769@unixmail.infodata.com> From: "Viator, Lora" To: "'PDF List'" Subject: [PDF] SGML Element Tags to PDF Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 11:48:40 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== I use Element Tags (kind of like character tags) in my FM docs for superscripting certain letters within the body text. I have identified the larger elements containing those superscript tags to be Bookmarks in the PDF that I generate out of FM. Problem: The text is pulled and creates the bookmark up until the conversion tools hits the superscript elements. Then the character that is wrapped up by the element tag and any following text are not pulled into the bookmark. Any ideas???? Lora Viator Infodata Systems, Inc _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 24-Sep-1998 16:48:01-GMT,2482;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA21521 for ; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 10:47:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA28728; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 11:31:22 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 24 Sep 1998 11:28:59 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA28519; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 11:28:55 -0500 Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 12:28:04 -0400 From: Michael Vorel Subject: [PDF] Re: Postscript vs. Encapsulated Postscript To: "INTERNET:pdf@lists.pdfzone.com" Cc: Roxanne Message-ID: <199809241228_MC2-5A8E-47FE@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id LAA28501 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Message text written by INTERNET:pdf@lists.pdfzone.com >This is apparently compressed EPS. I cannot edit it. I didn't know that there was a such thing as ASCII EPS.< If you want to go back earlier in the history of postscript. The purpose of EPS as a container, was to include postscript files inside a document for inclusion at print time. This was extremely valuable for referencing printed documentation in another document. Display of EPS content was hit or miss, based on how well the coding team adhered to Adobe rules; thus you saw references to displayable EPS in certain software programs. And a BIG X was portrayed where an EPS file would be printed in the document. Early on many print vendors recommended saving files as EPS format for printing purposes, but this was outside the original design or EPS. _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 24-Sep-1998 17:16:53-GMT,2010;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA22375 for ; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 11:16:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA30190; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 11:56:22 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 24 Sep 1998 11:54:13 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA30032; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 11:54:12 -0500 Message-ID: <01BDE7A9.A24EBB80@howards.oecmed.com> From: Michael Johnson To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Autorun Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 10:53:52 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id LAA30027 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== I'm creating a hardware service manual that consists of several PDFs on a CD. Does anyone know how to correctly code an autorun.inf file I can place in the root directory of the CD so that the computer automatically loads Acrobat Reader when the CD is placed in the CD Rom drive, and then automatically loads one of the PDF files? Thanks in advance! Mike Johnson Michaelj@oecmed.com Writer@wasatch.com Speaking for myself and not OEC Medical Systems _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 24-Sep-1998 17:16:58-GMT,2013;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA22379 for ; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 11:16:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA29899; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 11:51:48 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 24 Sep 1998 11:49:23 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA29759; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 11:49:21 -0500 Message-ID: <3162C3A36143D211AF1800104B6FEC93068772@unixmail.infodata.com> From: "Viator, Lora" To: "'PDF'" Subject: [PDF] Specify Content of Bookmarks from FM SGML Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 12:53:01 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== I know that you can specify whether or not to include Element tag names and/or element text in bookmarks generated out of FM|+SGML to PDF. But can you do a combination within an export. For example: Out of FM+SGML convert Resulting Bookmark Title tag name and text Title Blah Blah Blah Head1 tag name but not text Head1 Head2 text only Blah Blah Blah (Head2 text) THanks for ANY help. Lora Viator _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 24-Sep-1998 18:09:44-GMT,2979;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA23720 for ; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 12:09:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA31336; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 12:12:47 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 24 Sep 1998 12:09:50 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA31145; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 12:09:47 -0500 Message-ID: <360A7BCA.40C2FD48@aip.org> Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 13:05:14 -0400 From: Chris Hamlin Organization: AIP X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; I; SunOS 5.6 sun4u) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] SGML Element Tags to PDF References: <3162C3A36143D211AF1800104B6FEC93068769@unixmail.infodata.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Viator, Lora wrote: > > ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== > > I use Element Tags (kind of like character tags) in my FM docs for > superscripting certain letters within the body text. I have identified the > larger elements containing those superscript tags to be Bookmarks in the PDF > that I generate out of FM. > > Problem: The text is pulled and creates the bookmark up until the > conversion tools hits the superscript elements. Then the character that is > wrapped up by the element tag and any following text are not pulled into the > bookmark. > > Any ideas???? > It all depends on the conversion, which I guess is output from FM? In this case you can only complain to them . . . it's hard to know what their program does and why. My _opinion_ is that all chars within the larger element (e.g., section head) should be retained. When playing with automatic bookmarking via plugin it is possible to capture all the characters, though bookmarks are limited in character set (a subset of PDFDocEncoding) and you can just have a string (no sups/sups). So "The result is π2 for x" (using pseudo-SGML) would show up as "The result is p2 for x" in the bookmark. -- Chris Hamlin American Institute of Physics, 500 Sunnyside Blvd, Woodbury, NY 11797-2999 Internet: chamlin@aip.org Phone: 516/576-2335 FAX: 516/349-7669 _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 24-Sep-1998 18:37:48-GMT,2577;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA24387 for ; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 12:37:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA02505; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 13:17:59 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 24 Sep 1998 13:13:15 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA02212; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 13:13:14 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Saccuzzo, Robin" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] Autorun Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 13:18:30 -0500 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Place in the file [autorun] open=something.exe icon=something.ico something being the exe you want to launch and its ico if needed. Best, Robin -----Original Message----- From: Michael Johnson [SMTP:michaelj@oecmed.com] Sent: Thursday, September 24, 1998 11:54 AM To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' Subject: [PDF] Autorun ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== I'm creating a hardware service manual that consists of several PDFs on a CD. Does anyone know how to correctly code an autorun.inf file I can place in the root directory of the CD so that the computer automatically loads Acrobat Reader when the CD is placed in the CD Rom drive, and then automatically loads one of the PDF files? Thanks in advance! Mike Johnson Michaelj@oecmed.com Writer@wasatch.com Speaking for myself and not OEC Medical Systems _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 24-Sep-1998 19:58:30-GMT,1716;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA26530 for ; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 13:58:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA07217; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 14:11:02 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 24 Sep 1998 14:08:40 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA06994; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 14:08:38 -0500 Message-ID: <97790B563888D111B69F0000F81F7BF8436039@PRIORIS> From: Christine Johnson To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] email links? Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 14:00:53 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== I'm new to PDF and I have looked through archives for the answer to this question. How do I make an e-mail address a link? Is it something simple that I'm missing? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance, Chris Cjohnson@cpcmags.com _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 24-Sep-1998 19:59:00-GMT,3835;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA26535 for ; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 13:58:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA06159; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 13:57:02 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 24 Sep 1998 13:54:31 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA05975; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 13:54:29 -0500 Message-ID: <360A94B4.339DABBC@glyphica.com> Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 11:51:32 -0700 From: margret X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5b1 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Autorun References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== As best I know, the following will only open Reader, not the specified file. You can write a WinMain application that will instruct windows to open a specified file. The specified file will then open in whatever program is set up to handle that particular file type (in this case, Exchange or Reader). Then you can wite your autorun.inf to say: [autorun] open=WinMain.exe all of this requires that you be able to write a little C code and have a development environment in which to write it. margret@glyphica.com Saccuzzo, Robin wrote: > ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== > > Place in the file > [autorun] > open=something.exe > icon=something.ico > > something being the exe you want to launch and its ico if needed. > > Best, > > Robin > > -----Original Message----- > From: Michael Johnson [SMTP:michaelj@oecmed.com] > Sent: Thursday, September 24, 1998 11:54 AM > To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' > Subject: [PDF] Autorun > > ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== > > I'm creating a hardware service manual that consists of several PDFs > on a CD. > > Does anyone know how to correctly code an autorun.inf file I can > place in the root directory of the CD so that the computer automatically > loads Acrobat Reader when the CD is placed in the CD Rom drive, and then > automatically loads one of the PDF files? > > Thanks in advance! > > Mike Johnson > Michaelj@oecmed.com > Writer@wasatch.com > Speaking for myself and not OEC Medical Systems > > _______________________________________________________ > > -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- > * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * > + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + > _______________________________________________________ > > > _______________________________________________________ > > -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- > * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * > + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + > _______________________________________________________ > _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 24-Sep-1998 20:16:44-GMT,2177;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA26976 for ; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 14:16:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA09208; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 14:39:38 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 24 Sep 1998 14:36:53 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA09055; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 14:36:52 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980924154605.0092a510@iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 15:46:05 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] Printing a List of PDF File Names In-Reply-To: <000801bde74d$88a73740$4d4caccf@mcglinn> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== >>From Windows Explorer, I want to print a listing of pdf files in a specific >directory. I thought there would be a print option to only print a list of >file names not the actual file. Using DOS you could print a directory to a >file or printer. Any suggestions? > Sure. Use DOS. Make a BAT file containing whatever commands you'd normally use in DOS. You can then do Start, Run and type in the name of your bat file. Or make an icon for the BAT file. There are also fun games to be played by putting BAT files in your Send To folder. Steve Rindsberg/Prez RDP http://www.rdpslides.com _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 24-Sep-1998 21:03:17-GMT,2210;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA28220 for ; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 15:03:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA12820; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 15:37:39 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 24 Sep 1998 15:35:00 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA12578; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 15:34:59 -0500 Message-ID: From: Jim Needles To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Replace function and subsetted fonts Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 16:30:18 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== We are having problems replacing pages in PDF files that contain embedded subsetted fonts. We receive an error message that says "These documents contain subset fonts that have the same name and cannot be merged." Is there anyway around this problem when you do not have access to the document source material? Is there any way to extract the embedded font from the PDF file so that pages may be replaced? One workaround: If you want to replace pages you can delete the old page and insert the new one. But, the replace function works using thumbnails and drag and drop which is much more convenient to do, especially if you need to manually change 1000 pages a day. Any ideas? James Needles _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 24-Sep-1998 21:03:22-GMT,1986;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA28230 for ; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 15:03:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA12907; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 15:39:30 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 24 Sep 1998 15:37:13 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA12773; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 15:37:11 -0500 Message-ID: <00EF773582D6D111939D00A0C9A92F6401C844DB@il0015exch003u.ih.lucent.com> From: "Farrell, Kevin (Kevin)" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] email links? Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 15:36:42 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== To include an email address as a hyperlink, simply type mailto: infront of the address, as illustrated: mailto:kfarrell@lucent.com _____________________________________ Kevin Farrell Lucent Technologies Electronic Media Networked Services (EMNS) voice: 630.224.6890 email: mailto:kfarrell@lucent.com pager: 630.680.6367 text page: http://paging.acswireless.com/send.html (use pager number 630.680.6367) _____________________________________ _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 24-Sep-1998 22:03:57-GMT,2294;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA29658 for ; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 16:03:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA17406; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 16:42:46 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 24 Sep 1998 16:40:09 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA17246; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 16:40:06 -0500 From: sgililland@nexstar.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: NEXSTAR To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <87256689.007722CC.00@pigeon.nexstar.com> Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 14:41:36 -0700 Subject: [PDF] Distiller Assist problem? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== I have, in the past, been able to select all my email messages, select distiller Assist v3.0 to "print" the files. This distilled the messages and asked me for a pdf file name and location to save the file. It worked great! Now, if I do this, the sames things happen, but the PDF is not created. The log file reads as follows. But, I don't have the foggiest idea what it means! Can anyone tell me what's happening? The only things I've done since this last worked is: install Exchange 3.01, the latest Adobe 4.2.4 printer driver, and the forms plug-in. Your help will be appreciated!! Thanks, SueG %%[ Error: undefined; OffendingCommand: vmstatus  ]%% Stack: 30000 %%[ Flushing: rest of job (to end-of-file) will be ignored ]%% %%[ Warning: PostScript error. No PDF file produced. ] %% _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 24-Sep-1998 22:03:59-GMT,3520;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA29659 for ; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 16:03:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA17129; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 16:38:17 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 24 Sep 1998 16:35:37 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA16970; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 16:35:35 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.32.19980924173059.009fc490@mailman.epnet.com> X-Sender: alindsay@mailman.epnet.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 17:31:00 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: alindsay@mailman.epnet.com (Andrew Lindsay) Subject: [PDF] Named Destinations working/not working Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== I'm looking to see if anyone can figure out why an experiment with Named Destinations has had very mixed results. I took a 5-page Image Only PDF, printed it out to PostScript, then used Phil Smith's Named Destination script to PDFmark my file with Page1, Page2, etc. for each page, and Distilled the file back to PDF. I put it on a web server (Dell Pentium Pro w/ 64 Mb RAM, connected to the Internet via Novell network to router to T1 to Net, running MS Internet Information Server, Service Pack 3) at: http://imagebiz.com/PaperWeb/pdfmark2.htm The html page that links to it has named links like http://www.mysite.com/mydirectory/mypdf.pdf#Page2 that are supposed to take you to that specific page in the PDF file when you click on the link. The problem is that it's working for some people, but not for others -- especially me! When I go from my work machine, using either Navigator 3.0 and Reader 3.01 helper or IE 4.0 with 3.01 plug-in with OCX upgrade, I only get the first page of the PDF file, no matter which link I click on. We've got a firewall, mixed Novell and NT network, with TCP/IP. Of course, when I tried it from home, using Navigator 4.06, it worked fine. A few friends and collegues, some within firewalls, others out in the open, have also reported being able to access the individual pages without any problems. A few have only been able to get linked to Page 1. One confusing item: because I thought it might be a firewall issue, I tried posting the file on some internal intranets, both Unix and NT, but I still got the same failed results -- page 1 only! First, I wonder how many people on this list find that they can get to the correct specific PDF page (either 2,3,4 or 5) from the web link? Secondly, I wonder if anyone has any ideas or constructive suggestions on what might be causing this seemingly sporadic behavior? Andrew Lindsay Technical Manager - Electronic Publishing EBSCO Publishing Ipswich, MA 01938 (978) 356-6500 x268 _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 24-Sep-1998 23:11:38-GMT,1765;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA01298 for ; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 17:11:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA22585; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 17:43:09 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 24 Sep 1998 17:40:20 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA22463; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 17:40:18 -0500 Message-ID: <360B5710.E7FAB413@realworld.com.au> Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 08:40:50 +0000 From: Dean Laffan X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Autorun References: <360A94B4.339DABBC@glyphica.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Excuse if this is a dumb question: How does the CD know not to re-run the installer every subsequent time it's inserted ? Dean _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 24-Sep-1998 23:44:00-GMT,2326;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA01973 for ; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 17:43:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA24219; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 18:21:18 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 24 Sep 1998 18:15:38 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA23939; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 18:15:37 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Saccuzzo, Robin" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] Autorun Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 18:20:52 -0500 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Dean, What you would need is a front end that the inf calls to execute. Demoshield allows you to build one but is about 300 dollars. Try some of the shareware sites for installation utilities if cost is a factor. Best, Robin -----Original Message----- From: Dean Laffan [SMTP:email@realworld.com.au] Sent: Friday, September 25, 1998 3:41 AM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Autorun ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Excuse if this is a dumb question: How does the CD know not to re-run the installer every subsequent time it's inserted ? Dean _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 25-Sep-1998 1:08:58-GMT,3092;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA03711 for ; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 19:08:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA28975; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 19:45:28 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 24 Sep 1998 19:41:03 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA28782; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 19:41:01 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: kfoss@pdfzone.com Message-Id: Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 19:42:54 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: gvokalek@aelmg.adelaide.edu.au Subject: [PDF] using Perl/OLE to insert pages in Exchange Cc: gvokalek@causal.on.net Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== I want to insert pages in a document using OLE automation driven by Perl under Win95. I can make Perl control Exchange to the extent of loading and saving documents, getting page numbers, and other trivial things. However, my experiments with the InsertPages() function in the AcroExch.PDDoc object have just failed consistently. I have used excel code previously posted to pdf-l as my example, and I don't know why InsertPages() fails (returns 0 status) when the other functions work OK. In case others are interested in controlling exchange with Perl, below is a simple PERL script which loads a file, reverses the page order, then saves the file. If anyone can contribute PERL code which uses InsertPages, I would be grateful. George. ******* cut here, perl code use OLE; require 'getopt.pl'; Getopt('i:o:'); if (!$opt_i || !$opt_o) { die "-i infile -o outfile\n"; } $acrotemp = CreateObject OLE 'AcroExch.PDDoc' or warn "Couldn't create new instance of AcroExch.PDDoc!!"; $result = $acrotemp->Open($opt_i); print "B$result\n"; $numpages = $acrotemp->GetNumPages(); for ($i=0; $i<$numpages-1; $i++) { $result = $acrotemp->MovePage($i-1,$numpages-1); } $result = $acrotemp->Save(1, $opt_o); print "D$result\n"; $result = $acrotemp->Close(); print "E$result\n"; print "done\n"; ************ -- George Vokalek, Director. Phone 61 8 8295 8200 CAUSAL PRODUCTIONS PTY LTD. Fax 61 8 8295 8299 PO BOX 100, Rundle Mall 5000, gvokalek@causal.on.net Australia. http://www.causal.on.net _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 25-Sep-1998 2:20:18-GMT,8869;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA05174 for ; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 20:20:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA08226; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 20:59:52 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 24 Sep 1998 20:57:04 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA07260; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 20:56:56 -0500 Message-ID: <01BDE868.87D0E8E0@min.minmet.com.au> From: Min Chen To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Named Destinations working/not working Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 09:40:22 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="---- =_NextPart_000_01BDE868.87D0E8E0" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== ------ =_NextPart_000_01BDE868.87D0E8E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >From my experience, Named destination only works with Netscape (all = versions), it does not work with IE at all. It has problems to work with = proxy server, in my case the Squid version23. Hopefully next version of = acrobat reader will solve this problem. ---------- From: Andrew Lindsay[SMTP:alindsay@mailman.epnet.com] Sent: Friday, September 25, 1998 5:31 AM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Named Destinations working/not working =3D=3D=3D=3D> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone = <=3D=3D=3D=3D I'm looking to see if anyone can figure out why an experiment with Named Destinations has had very mixed results. I took a 5-page Image Only PDF, printed it out to PostScript, then used Phil Smith's Named Destination script to PDFmark my file with Page1, = Page2, etc. for each page, and Distilled the file back to PDF. I put it on a web server (Dell Pentium Pro w/ 64 Mb RAM, connected to = the Internet via Novell network to router to T1 to Net, running MS Internet Information Server, Service Pack 3)=20 at: http://imagebiz.com/PaperWeb/pdfmark2.htm The html page that links to it has named links like=20 http://www.mysite.com/mydirectory/mypdf.pdf#Page2=20 that are supposed to take you to that specific page in the PDF file when you click on the link.=20 The problem is that it's working for some people, but not for others -- especially me! When I go from my work machine, using either Navigator = 3.0 and Reader 3.01 helper or IE 4.0 with 3.01 plug-in with OCX upgrade, I = only get the first page of the PDF file, no matter which link I click on. = We've got a firewall, mixed Novell and NT network, with TCP/IP. Of course, when I tried it from home, using Navigator 4.06, it worked = fine. A few friends and collegues, some within firewalls, others out in the = open, have also reported being able to access the individual pages without any problems. A few have only been able to get linked to Page 1. One confusing item: because I thought it might be a firewall issue, I = tried posting the file on some internal intranets, both Unix and NT, but I = still got the same failed results -- page 1 only!=20 First, I wonder how many people on this list find that they can get to = the correct specific PDF page (either 2,3,4 or 5) from the web link? Secondly, I wonder if anyone has any ideas or constructive suggestions = on what might be causing this seemingly sporadic behavior? 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searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 25-Sep-1998 3:10:59-GMT,2444;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA06208 for ; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 21:10:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA16928; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 21:52:44 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 24 Sep 1998 21:50:15 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA16840; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 21:50:13 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Wraight, David D." To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] email links? Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 10:53:39 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Christine, I just tried this for you using the Link tool in Exchange and changing the default action to World Wide Web Link. Edit the URL (click the button), and enter: mailto:person@address.com.au (as opposed to a http://www.address.com.au) The problem I found with this is that it starts Explorer (or Navigator) first - BUT it does relay the request to the email program to create a new message (Windows built in functionality). But, if the Web browser is already running it will simply create a new message addressed to the person you specified (person@address.com.au). Anyone else got any suggestions for Christine?? d......................... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > I'm new to PDF and I have looked through archives for the answer to > this > question. How do I make an e-mail address a link? Is it something > simple > that I'm missing? Any help would be appreciated. _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 25-Sep-1998 3:48:25-GMT,2770;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA07022 for ; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 21:48:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA18615; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 22:29:11 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 24 Sep 1998 22:26:25 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA18408; Thu, 24 Sep 1998 22:26:24 -0500 From: "Keith E. Risler" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Autorun Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 23:25:03 -0400 Message-ID: <000001bde834$15e1b9a0$5a09efd1@keith98> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 In-Reply-To: <360B5710.E7FAB413@realworld.com.au> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== I presume you refer to the process by which an autorun file launches a setup program on the CD. The documentation in one of Microsoft's programming languages--Visual Basic--states that Windows 95 (and later) are designed such that the computer checks for the file when a CD is inserted. The exception is if the user disables autorun on the computer into which the CD is loaded. KR -----Original Message----- From: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com [mailto:owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com]On Behalf Of Dean Laffan Sent: Friday, September 25, 1998 4:41 AM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Autorun ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Excuse if this is a dumb question: How does the CD know not to re-run the installer every subsequent time it's inserted ? Dean _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 25-Sep-1998 6:29:51-GMT,2316;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA10507 for ; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 00:29:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA16810; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 01:08:09 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 25 Sep 1998 01:06:47 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA16399; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 01:06:46 -0500 Message-Id: <98Sep25.080633gmt+0200.29569-1@baz-s-fw.baz.ch> From: Yannick Wolf To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Named Destinations working/not working Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 08:03:22 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== I use both Netscape and IE4.0, and Named Destinations works correctly ... Yannick ===================== Yannick Wolf PDF Team BMG ComServ Das Softwarehaus der Basler Mediengruppe Hochbergerstrasse 15 CH-4002 Basel, Postfach Tel :++4161 639 16 84 Fax :++4161 631 53 10 Mail : y.wolf@baz.ch ===================== ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 09:40:22 +0800 From: Min Chen Subject: RE: [PDF] Named Destinations working/not working ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== >From my experience, Named destination only works with Netscape (all versions), it does not work with IE at all. It has problems to work with proxy server, in my case the Squid version23. Hopefully next version of acrobat reader will solve this problem. _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 25-Sep-1998 6:52:35-GMT,6070;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA10944 for ; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 00:52:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA20914; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 01:35:07 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 25 Sep 1998 01:34:16 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA20842; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 01:34:15 -0500 Message-ID: <01BDE890.D45C5F00@min.minmet.com.au> From: Min Chen To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Named Destinations working/not working Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 14:28:51 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="---- =_NextPart_000_01BDE890.D4640020" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== ------ =_NextPart_000_01BDE890.D4640020 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Can you give me the web address so I can have a look? ---------- From: Yannick Wolf[SMTP:y.wolf@baz.ch] Sent: Friday, September 25, 1998 2:03 PM To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' Subject: RE: [PDF] Named Destinations working/not working ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== I use both Netscape and IE4.0, and Named Destinations works correctly ... Yannick ===================== Yannick Wolf PDF Team BMG ComServ Das Softwarehaus der Basler Mediengruppe Hochbergerstrasse 15 CH-4002 Basel, Postfach Tel :++4161 639 16 84 Fax :++4161 631 53 10 Mail : y.wolf@baz.ch ===================== ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 09:40:22 +0800 From: Min Chen Subject: RE: [PDF] Named Destinations working/not working ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== >From my experience, Named destination only works with Netscape (all versions), it does not work with IE at all. It has problems to work with proxy server, in my case the Squid version23. 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To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Named Destinations working/not working Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 14:46:39 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Yannick, You've got me asking how - so how? I was under the impression that IE doesn't support it under it's current architecture, or are you using some special Plugins etc? -------------------------------------------- > I use both Netscape and IE4.0, and Named Destinations works correctly > ... > > _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 25-Sep-1998 10:41:07-GMT,3176;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA15066 for ; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 04:41:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA07730; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 05:10:38 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 25 Sep 1998 05:09:24 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA07645; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 05:09:23 -0500 Message-ID: <360B6BAB.83C05435@emtex.com> Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 11:08:43 +0100 From: Chris Cooper Organization: Emtex Ltd. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Autorun References: <000001bde834$15e1b9a0$5a09efd1@keith98> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com [mailto:owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com]On > Behalf Of Dean Laffan > Sent: Friday, September 25, 1998 4:41 AM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: Re: [PDF] Autorun > > Excuse if this is a dumb question: > > How does the CD know not to re-run the installer every subsequent time > it's inserted ? > > Dean To which Keith E. Risler wrote: > I presume you refer to the process by which an autorun file launches a setup > program on the CD. The documentation in one of Microsoft's programming > languages--Visual Basic--states that Windows 95 (and later) are designed > such that the computer checks for the file when a CD is inserted. The > exception is if the user disables autorun on the computer into which the CD > is loaded. > > KR You make use of this by inserting checks in the start of the installer for the existence of certain files, version numbers or registry/config info. It starts up every time, checks and, if it finds what it is looking for then the installer exits without doing anything, otherwise it does its stuff and installs things (including the stuff you look for next time). If you are trying to cover the installation of multiple packages you do the checks on a package by package basis. I haven't looked at them for a while but I believe there are facilities to allow you to do this built in to the "Installer construction" packages (such as InstallShield) - but *please* check, I am not familiar with the current crop of these. Cheers, Chris Cooper Emtex Ltd, UK "Tall, dark and gruesome - and then I grew some more!" _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 25-Sep-1998 12:58:12-GMT,1600;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA17484 for ; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 06:58:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA16827; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 07:36:39 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 25 Sep 1998 07:35:18 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA16759; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 07:35:16 -0500 From: mpecchio@esoc.esa.de X-Lotus-FromDomain: ESA To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <4125668A.004A8A5D.00@esocmail1.esoc.esa.de> Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 14:32:18 +0100 Subject: [PDF] Question Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Is there any tool supporting the automatic comparison of PDF files? Does it add change bars to the newer version of the PDF document? Mauro Pecchioli _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 25-Sep-1998 13:03:17-GMT,2118;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA17608 for ; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 07:03:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA17453; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 07:49:43 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 25 Sep 1998 07:48:47 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA17364; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 07:48:46 -0500 Message-ID: <01BDE860.B2AB09E0@c208-213-155-99.kivex.com> From: Dae-Hee Lee To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Editorial Remarks on PDF Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 08:44:23 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id HAA17360 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Here's the scenario: There is a single PDF file (call it "sample.pdf") that gets sent to three editors. Editor 1 marks up sample.pdf using whatever tool may be available to indicate corrections (say in red ink). Editor 2 marks up sample.pdf using blue ink. Editor 3 marks up sample.pdf using green ink. Now, when I get the "marked up" PDF back from the editors, is it possible to combine the editorial remarks so that I would have a single sample.pdf file with red, blue and green ink indicating all of the required corrections? Thanks. _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 25-Sep-1998 13:14:29-GMT,2655;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA17808 for ; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 07:14:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA18193; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 07:58:34 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 25 Sep 1998 07:57:26 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA18043; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 07:57:25 -0500 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Editorial Remarks on PDF In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 25 Sep 1998 08:44:23 EDT." <01BDE860.B2AB09E0@c208-213-155-99.kivex.com> Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 13:57:18 +0100 Message-ID: <12037.906728238@isode.com> From: Chris Ridd Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== On Fri, 25 Sep 1998 08:44:23 EDT, Dae-Hee Lee wrote: > Here's the scenario: > > There is a single PDF file (call it "sample.pdf") that gets sent to three editors. > > Editor 1 marks up sample.pdf using whatever tool may be available to indicate corrections (say in red ink). > Editor 2 marks up sample.pdf using blue ink. > Editor 3 marks up sample.pdf using green ink. > > Now, when I get the "marked up" PDF back from the editors, is it possible to combine the editorial remarks so that I would have a single sample.pdf file with red, blue and green ink indicating all of the required corrections? Thanks. Can't you just do this with Exchange's little post-it note things? I thought you could export the notes from one PDF into another. I don't use Exchange for this kind of stuff so I could be *entirely* wrong here... Chris (C.Ridd@isode.com) > _______________________________________________________ > > -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- > * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * > + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + > _______________________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 25-Sep-1998 13:15:07-GMT,2986;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA17818 for ; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 07:15:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA18250; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 07:59:01 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 25 Sep 1998 07:58:12 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA18126; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 07:58:10 -0500 From: "David Cornwell" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Question Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 14:02:11 +0100 Message-ID: <001b01bde884$b5c8ba40$0441a8c0@davec.docctrl.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-Reply-To: <4125668A.004A8A5D.00@esocmail1.esoc.esa.de> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <====   There is only one product I know which does this: P/comp. We have not played with it. contact: Bob Radtke, Pegasus Global, 2066 59th St N, Clearwater, FL 33760, USA VOICE & FAX: 1-813-531-8205 e-mail:rradtke@gte.net drc --- David Cornwell, Director - Business Development Computerised Document Control Ltd PO Box 5, Chepstow, Monmouthshire, NP6 6YU, United Kingdom Tel: + 44 (0) 1291 635 403 (direct) ; USA: 1-888-240-1752 Fax: + 44 (0) 1291 623 902 www.docctrl.com Forging the link between Document Systems and Acrobat > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com [mailto:owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com]On > Behalf Of mpecchio@esoc.esa.de > Sent: 25 September 1998 14:32 > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: [PDF] Question > > > > ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== > > Is there any tool supporting the automatic comparison of PDF > files? Does it > add change bars to the newer version of the PDF document? > > Mauro Pecchioli > > > > _______________________________________________________ > > -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- > * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * > + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + > _______________________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 25-Sep-1998 14:23:57-GMT,2388;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA19271 for ; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 08:23:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA29757; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 09:04:02 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 25 Sep 1998 09:02:30 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA29635; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 09:02:29 -0500 Message-ID: <01BDE86A.FD5F4AA0@c208-213-155-99.kivex.com> From: Dae-Hee Lee To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Editorial Markup on PDF Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 09:58:01 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id JAA29631 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Perhaps I wasn't clear in my last message - so I'm re-sending it. I do not mean corrections using the post-it notes, etc. I mean editorial markups right on the PDF page -- for instance, editorial "delete" mark to indicate text that needs to be deleted, etc. Thanks. Here's the scenario: There is a single PDF file (call it "sample.pdf") that gets sent to three editors. Editor 1 marks up sample.pdf using whatever tool may be available to indicate corrections (say in red ink). Editor 2 marks up sample.pdf using blue ink. Editor 3 marks up sample.pdf using green ink. Now, when I get the "marked up" PDF back from the editors, is it possible to combine the editorial remarks so that I would have a single sample.pdf file with red, blue and green ink indicating all of the required corrections? Thanks. _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 25-Sep-1998 15:21:46-GMT,3124;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA21276 for ; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 09:21:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA07269; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 10:02:22 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 25 Sep 1998 09:59:56 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA07104; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 09:59:54 -0500 From: "David Cornwell" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Editorial Markup on PDF Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 16:03:56 +0100 Message-ID: <000001bde895$b8414ba0$0441a8c0@davec.docctrl.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <01BDE86A.FD5F4AA0@c208-213-155-99.kivex.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== You wrote: > Perhaps I wasn't clear in my last message - so I'm re-sending it. > I do not mean corrections using the post-it notes, etc. I mean > editorial markups right on the PDF page -- for instance, > editorial "delete" mark to indicate text that needs to be > deleted, etc. Thanks. > > Here's the scenario: > > There is a single PDF file (call it "sample.pdf") that gets sent > to three editors. > > Editor 1 marks up sample.pdf using whatever tool may be available > to indicate corrections (say in red ink). > Editor 2 marks up sample.pdf using blue ink. > Editor 3 marks up sample.pdf using green ink. > > Now, when I get the "marked up" PDF back from the editors, is it > possible to combine the editorial remarks so that I would have a > single sample.pdf file with red, blue and green ink indicating > all of the required corrections? Thanks. I reply: I think the point is that no-one really understand how you are going to get the aforesiad editorial marks onto the PDF file in the first place so its rather hard to advise. Are you using a 3rd party product because its not part of Acrobat! drc --- David Cornwell, Director - Business Development Computerised Document Control Ltd PO Box 5, Chepstow, Monmouthshire, NP6 6YU, United Kingdom Tel: + 44 (0) 1291 635 403 (direct) ; USA: 1-888-240-1752 Fax: + 44 (0) 1291 623 902 www.docctrl.com Forging the link between Document Systems and Acrobat _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 25-Sep-1998 15:34:12-GMT,7592;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA21616 for ; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 09:34:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA08038; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 10:16:03 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 25 Sep 1998 10:13:19 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA07875; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 10:13:17 -0500 Message-ID: <01BDE874.E60CF0A0@c208-213-155-99.kivex.com> From: Dae-Hee Lee To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Editorial Markup on PDF Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 11:08:57 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="---- =_NextPart_000_01BDE874.E60CF0A0" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== ------ =_NextPart_000_01BDE874.E60CF0A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yes, there are third party tools that allows you to "mark-up" a PDF = file. Since I am not going to advertise and/or endorse a particular = product using this list, let's just take it for granted that it can be = done (sorry!). Thanks. ---------- From: David Cornwell[SMTP:davec@docctrl.com] Sent: Friday, September 25, 1998 11:03 AM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] Editorial Markup on PDF =3D=3D=3D=3D> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone = <=3D=3D=3D=3D You wrote: > Perhaps I wasn't clear in my last message - so I'm re-sending it. > I do not mean corrections using the post-it notes, etc. I mean > editorial markups right on the PDF page -- for instance, > editorial "delete" mark to indicate text that needs to be > deleted, etc. Thanks. > > Here's the scenario: > > There is a single PDF file (call it "sample.pdf") that gets sent > to three editors. > > Editor 1 marks up sample.pdf using whatever tool may be available > to indicate corrections (say in red ink). > Editor 2 marks up sample.pdf using blue ink. > Editor 3 marks up sample.pdf using green ink. > > Now, when I get the "marked up" PDF back from the editors, is it > possible to combine the editorial remarks so that I would have a > single sample.pdf file with red, blue and green ink indicating > all of the required corrections? Thanks. I reply: I think the point is that no-one really understand how you are going to get the aforesiad editorial marks onto the PDF file in the = first place so its rather hard to advise. 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Fri, 25 Sep 1998 09:46:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA09269; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 10:31:08 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 25 Sep 1998 10:28:45 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA08841; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 10:28:44 -0500 Message-ID: From: Chris Denker To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] using Perl/OLE to insert pages in Exchange Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 11:12:10 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== This is what I used when playing around with it. =============================================== use OLE; $pdf1 = CreateObject OLE 'AcroExch.PDDoc' || die $!; $pdf2 = CreateObject OLE 'AcroExch.PDDoc' || die $!; $pdf1->Open('d:\\#tmp\\pdf_one.pdf') || die $!; $pdf2->Open('d:\\#tmp\\pdf_two.pdf') || die $!; # insert after page (0 based, -1 for before first page, 0 for after pg 1, etc) # source doc # from page in source doc, starting at page 0 # no. of pages to insert # last parameter is whether to move bookmarks I think $pdf1->InsertPages(-1,$pdf2,0,1,0) || die $!; # optimize option I think $pdf1->Save(0,""); $pdf1->Close(); $pdf1->Quit(); =============================================== HTH. I do remember playing around with it for a while til I got the combo right. Chris Denker Ward's Natural Science Establishment _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 25-Sep-1998 16:02:08-GMT,2306;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA22560 for ; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 10:02:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA10621; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 10:36:57 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 25 Sep 1998 10:34:40 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA10077; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 10:34:38 -0500 Message-ID: From: Nathan Keller To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] Editorial Markup on PDF Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 08:34:51 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Consider that some people would really benefit by knowing that information. This is a discussion list where we discuss things PDF related. Editorial comment on this thread: It's Friday, everybody relax... Sincerely, Nathan Keller Technical Support Career Guidance Foundation nathank@cgf.org (800) 854-2670 http://www.collegesource.org > -----Original Message----- > From: MDCOMP/PO/dhlee On Behalf Of Dae-Hee Lee > Sent: Friday, September 25, 1998 8:09 AM > To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' > Subject: RE: [PDF] Editorial Markup on PDF > Importance: High > > Yes, there are third party tools that allows you to "mark-up" a PDF file. > Since I am not going to advertise and/or endorse a particular product > using this list, let's just take it for granted that it can be done > (sorry!). Thanks. > > > > _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 25-Sep-1998 16:02:40-GMT,1974;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA22571 for ; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 10:02:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA13054; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 10:46:35 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 25 Sep 1998 10:44:19 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA12442; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 10:44:14 -0500 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Editorial Markup on PDF In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 25 Sep 1998 08:34:51 PDT." Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 16:43:28 +0100 Message-ID: <12352.906738208@isode.com> From: Chris Ridd Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== On Fri, 25 Sep 1998 08:34:51 PDT, Nathan Keller wrote: > > ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== > > Consider that some people would really benefit by knowing that information. > This is a discussion list where we discuss things PDF related. Editorial > comment on this thread: It's Friday, everybody relax... Or we could just say the answer is to use another commercial product that we won't name ;-) Chris (C.Ridd@isode.com) _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 25-Sep-1998 16:08:42-GMT,2876;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA22752 for ; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 10:08:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA13794; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 10:49:33 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 25 Sep 1998 10:47:20 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA13191; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 10:47:13 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Saccuzzo, Robin" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] Editorial Markup on PDF Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 10:52:25 -0500 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Check out the tools from www.ambia.com -----Original Message----- From: Dae-Hee Lee [SMTP:dhlee@marylandcomp.com] Sent: Friday, September 25, 1998 8:58 AM To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' Subject: [PDF] Editorial Markup on PDF ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Perhaps I wasn't clear in my last message - so I'm re-sending it. I do not mean corrections using the post-it notes, etc. I mean editorial markups right on the PDF page -- for instance, editorial "delete" mark to indicate text that needs to be deleted, etc. Thanks. Here's the scenario: There is a single PDF file (call it "sample.pdf") that gets sent to three editors. Editor 1 marks up sample.pdf using whatever tool may be available to indicate corrections (say in red ink). Editor 2 marks up sample.pdf using blue ink. Editor 3 marks up sample.pdf using green ink. Now, when I get the "marked up" PDF back from the editors, is it possible to combine the editorial remarks so that I would have a single sample.pdf file with red, blue and green ink indicating all of the required corrections? Thanks. _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 25-Sep-1998 16:18:59-GMT,3348;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA23085 for ; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 10:18:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA17011; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 11:02:16 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 25 Sep 1998 10:59:57 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA16352; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 10:59:55 -0500 Message-ID: From: Nathan Keller To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Can you use plug-ins in Reviewer? Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 09:00:04 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Okay, time to confess my ignorance...can you use plug-ins in Reviewer? If so, I need a plug-in that will search an acd in Reviewer and find text lines with no text on them (maybe show me a window with options to delete the fragment?). Text lines with no text on them cause an error which shuts down Reviewer and consequently the acd is not saved as a pdf. Sincerely, Nathan Keller Technical Support Career Guidance Foundation nathank@cgf.org (800) 854-2670 http://www.collegesource.org -----Original Message----- From: Nathan Keller [mailto:NATHANK@cgf.org] Sent: Friday, September 25, 1998 8:35 AM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] Editorial Markup on PDF ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Consider that some people would really benefit by knowing that information. This is a discussion list where we discuss things PDF related. Editorial comment on this thread: It's Friday, everybody relax... Sincerely, Nathan Keller Technical Support Career Guidance Foundation nathank@cgf.org (800) 854-2670 http://www.collegesource.org > -----Original Message----- > From: MDCOMP/PO/dhlee On Behalf Of Dae-Hee Lee > Sent: Friday, September 25, 1998 8:09 AM > To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' > Subject: RE: [PDF] Editorial Markup on PDF > Importance: High > > Yes, there are third party tools that allows you to "mark-up" a PDF file. > Since I am not going to advertise and/or endorse a particular product > using this list, let's just take it for granted that it can be done > (sorry!). Thanks. > > > > _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 25-Sep-1998 23:15:35-GMT,2139;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA05560 for ; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 17:15:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA08720; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 17:57:40 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 25 Sep 1998 17:54:33 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA08523; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 17:54:31 -0500 Message-ID: <360CABE3.26C1FA76@realworld.com.au> Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1998 08:55:01 +0000 From: Dean Laffan X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Re: Autorun References: <2E785084EBC0D111999900608C14A509BC5C5C@ExchangeMN2.ATK.COM> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== > > Does anyone know how to correctly code an autorun.inf file I can place > > in the root directory of the CD so that the computer automatically > > loads Acrobat Reader when the CD is placed in the CD Rom drive, and > > then automatically loads one of the PDF files? > > > > Thanks in advance! > > > > Mike Johnson Mike, just checking you are aware that theArobat Reader distribution licence forbids you to distribute the reader as a run time. You must let the CD install the Reader onto the hardrive and not load off the CD. Dean _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 25-Sep-1998 16:40:44-GMT,2417;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA23633 for ; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 10:40:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA17589; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 11:09:28 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 25 Sep 1998 11:08:18 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA17479; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 11:08:17 -0500 Message-ID: <01BDE87C.8C40FD20@c208-213-155-99.kivex.com> From: Dae-Hee Lee To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Update on Editorial Markup Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 12:03:43 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id LAA17475 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Friends, I did not mean to "start" anything on this list. It is just that I've been told that no product advertisement or endorsements are allowed on this list. Anyway, with regards to the original question I've posted, I have received a private e-mail from a "knowledgeable source" informing me that what I'm asking for may be an added feature in the upcoming Acrobat product (4.0?). According to the same source, due to disclosure restrictions, I'm not allowed to say much more than that. I guess we'll all have to wait and see... In the meantime, you can go to Ambia for information on RE:Mark. Thanks all. Sorry for causing a "riot" on a Friday afternoon... Dae-Hee Lee Director of Electronic Publishing Maryland Composition Co., Inc. 6711 Dover Road Glen Burnie, MD 21060 (410) 760-7900 x3020 [voice] (410) 760-5295 [fax] _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 25-Sep-1998 17:23:00-GMT,2296;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA24897 for ; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 11:22:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA27294; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 12:02:59 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 25 Sep 1998 12:01:27 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA26803; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 12:01:22 -0500 Message-ID: <360BDB2B.24E6E76E@esource.com> Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 11:04:38 -0700 From: John H X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "pdf@lists.pdfzone.com" Subject: [PDF] Adding page numbers via distill or exchange Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Hello, I've created a monstrous MS Word (98 on an NT) mail merge in order to make a 400 page directory. There are 200 companies, each gets a spread in the directory where data about them is displayed. Trouble: Word thinks the resulting 400 page document is actually a collection of 200 2-page letters, so I can't auto-page number in Word--I just get page 1, page 2, over and over again. If I print the Word doc to a PS file and distill, it becomes a single 400 page doc to Acrobat. Is there a way to add a postscript footer that will auto increment the page numbers? Please reply to me directly, I will summarize and re-post any solutions. Thanks, -- John Heiland mailto:jheiland@esource.com http://www.esource.com/ _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 25-Sep-1998 18:35:21-GMT,3270;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA28469 for ; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 12:35:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA06861; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 13:12:41 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 25 Sep 1998 13:11:06 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA06723; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 13:11:04 -0500 X-Server-Uuid: fc96bae8-3f98-11d2-a40d-00805f199815 Message-ID: From: "Kinstle, Joel" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Adding page numbers via distill or exchange Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 13:10:32 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) X-WSS-ID: 1A150313645032-01-01 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Unless someone has an easy bet for you in Exchange, I'd suggest a little macro to renumber the pages in word. It's not that bad, especially with the macro recorder. If that's the route you take and you need some help, let me know. Joel Kinstle > ---------- > From: John H[SMTP:jheiland@esource.com] > Reply To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Sent: Friday, September 25, 1998 2:04 PM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: [PDF] Adding page numbers via distill or exchange > > > ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== > > Hello, > I've created a monstrous MS Word (98 on an NT) mail merge in order to > make a 400 page directory. There are 200 companies, each gets a spread > in the directory where data about them is displayed. > Trouble: Word thinks the resulting 400 page document is actually a > collection of 200 2-page letters, so I can't auto-page number in Word--I > just get page 1, page 2, over and over again. > If I print the Word doc to a PS file and distill, it becomes a single > 400 page doc to Acrobat. Is there a way to add a postscript footer that > will auto increment the page numbers? > > Please reply to me directly, I will summarize and re-post any solutions. > > Thanks, > -- > John Heiland > mailto:jheiland@esource.com > http://www.esource.com/ > > > > _______________________________________________________ > > -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- > * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * > + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + > _______________________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 25-Sep-1998 19:52:24-GMT,1729;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA00370 for ; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 13:52:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA20724; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 14:21:44 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 25 Sep 1998 14:17:28 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA19559; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 14:17:25 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: KEYCORP From: "Karen L Mibus" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <8525668A.0069514E.00@keybank.com> Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 15:13:23 -0400 Subject: [PDF] QuickTime, Acrobat, and Y2000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Does anyone know whether Acrobat works with any other movie player besides QuickTime? Also, does anyone know if QuickTime 3+ is year 2000 compliant? I was told that QuickTime 2+ is not Y2000 compliant and that Apple has no intention of making QT 2+ compliant. --Karen _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 25-Sep-1998 20:34:27-GMT,2908;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA01615 for ; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 14:34:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA32080; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 15:14:10 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 25 Sep 1998 15:12:56 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA31979; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 15:12:54 -0500 Message-ID: <2E785084EBC0D111999900608C14A509BC5C5C@ExchangeMN2.ATK.COM> From: "Mera, Jose" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Cc: "'michaelj@oecmed.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Autorun Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 15:11:26 -0500 X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Alliant Techsystems' LibraryManager does exactly this. It is designed for the distribution of PDFs on CD. It autoruns, and detects and loads if necessary Reader. The Subscription Edition also keeps track of titles that are distributed on a subscription basis (updated). LibraryManager operates on Windows platform only. > ---------- > From: Michael Johnson[SMTP:michaelj@oecmed.com] > Reply To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Sent: Thursday, September 24, 1998 12:53 PM > To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' > Subject: [PDF] Autorun > > > ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== > > I'm creating a hardware service manual that consists of several PDFs > on a CD. > > Does anyone know how to correctly code an autorun.inf file I can place > in the root directory of the CD so that the computer automatically > loads Acrobat Reader when the CD is placed in the CD Rom drive, and > then automatically loads one of the PDF files? > > Thanks in advance! > > Mike Johnson > Michaelj@oecmed.com > Writer@wasatch.com > Speaking for myself and not OEC Medical Systems > > > > > _______________________________________________________ > > -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- > * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * > + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + > _______________________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 26-Sep-1998 2:40:57-GMT,4877;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA09449 for ; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 20:40:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA18231; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 21:18:43 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 25 Sep 1998 21:13:10 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA17982; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 21:13:07 -0500 From: jeffmcarthur@home.com (Jeffrey McArthur) To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Re: Postscript vs. Encapsulated Postscript Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1998 02:02:06 GMT Organization: ATLIS Publishing Services Message-ID: <360f45be.4284890@mail> References: <3.0.5.32.19980921130633.00911cb0@iglou.com> <3606A387.3E3BD315@moen.com> <3606B1F3.87C4D0EC@moen.com> In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id VAA17978 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== >>In my experience, this is far from true. We basically lost a major contract >>because of the the problems that binary postscript files in a mixed network >>environment caused. If you are moving files between a Mac and a PC on a >>Novell 4.11 network, you should mandate that all postscript files be 7-bit >>ASCII. If they are not, well you may be in for some major problems. >> >>We adopted the standard that any 8-bit binary postscript file was forbidden >>on our network. Solved the vast majority of our problems. > >Hmm, that's interesting. I have a pretty ancient Novell server in my office >and have never had any problems with binary Mac-PC transfers of PostScript >file. Around Adobe we have dozens more. We've been using Novell servers for >moving PS files to Distiller since Day One. > >Do you have a concrete example of this? Perhaps there's a configuration >option set on the server that's incorrect? > >Gary Cosimini >Adobe Systems Perhaps it is your signature that sets me off. I am trying to be objective and not go off into a flame war. I have sent files to Adobe, I have spent hours on customer support, and so on. I have hired consultants. To be blunt, I am VERY dissatisfied with Adobe. Every time I send Adobe a problem, I get back a message, "we can't reproduce that". I send them a PDF that is created by distiller that is OBVIOUSLY bad, and customer support tells me, "we can't see anything wrong with it" (when parts of characters are cut off in the headline). Someone asked if there is a reason to be worried about binary EPS files. I say there are very good reasons to avoid them. My experience has taught me that if Adobe says there is not a problem, well odds are I will get bit by that problem. I am not trying to start a flame war. You work for Adobe. My job is to produce products that meet my customers expectations. To do that I have been building a list of things to avoid: Avoid binary eps files Avoid Bitstream fonts Avoid bitmapped fonts Avoid using Acrobat 3.0 if you have a Epson 600 printer (2.0 works fine) Avoid printing PDF files to HP printers unless they have postscript If using OLE to control Acrobat Exchange do not try and print more than 200 documents without resetting the entire computer. If at all possible, do not install ATM on a PC. I am also building a list of things that must be done: Any PDF created by PDF-Writer must be recreated by GhostScript if you plan on using a tool that supports placeable PDF. Use Ghostscript as a filter to convert binary EPS files into ascii EPS files. Send a "reset escape sequence" to non-network aware HP printers after every postscript and every PCL job. Under Windows 95, make sure to use Adobe's printer installation program and not the one that is provided by Microsoft. Jeffrey M\kern-.05em\raise.5ex\hbox{\b c}\kern-.05emArthur a.k.a. Jeffrey McArthur ATLIS Publishing Services http://members.home.net/jeffmcarthur/ _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 26-Sep-1998 2:48:38-GMT,4118;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA09583 for ; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 20:48:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA19107; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 21:34:59 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 25 Sep 1998 21:32:39 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA18967; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 21:32:38 -0500 From: jeffmcarthur@home.com (Jeffrey McArthur) To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Re: Postscript vs. Encapsulated Postscript Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1998 02:21:49 GMT Organization: ATLIS Publishing Services Message-ID: <36114bc2.5825384@mail> References: <36095cab.14258234@mail> <3.0.5.32.19980921130633.00911cb0@iglou.com> <3606A387.3E3BD315@moen.com> <3606B1F3.87C4D0EC@moen.com> <199809231431.HAA21560@mail-303.corp.Adobe.COM> In-Reply-To: <199809231431.HAA21560@mail-303.corp.Adobe.COM> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id VAA18963 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== On Wed, 23 Sep 1998 07:31:12 -0700, you wrote: > >====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== > >Actually, the reason why binary works OK on NetWare-based >servers at Adobe is because the NetWare queues are properly >configured and because users are (hopefully) instructed on >how to configure the drivers. I think you are misunderstanding what I wrote. The issue is not with printing. Printing is a completely separate issue. Actually, printing is one of the things that does work (I agree that you should tell Novell to avoid messing with the file). I am talking about just accessing binary EPS files on the network with different programs, and one in particular: PhotoShop. Our Mac graphics people would to into spasms if PhotoShop on the PC ever touched one of the Mac EPS files. (I got into lots of fights and wanted to throw all the Macs out the window, followed by the Mac zelots; but that is another story.) If you have a binary, Mac EPS on a Novell network, and open up the file on a PC using PhotoShop, every thing looks fine. But if you save the file back to the network, PhotoShop will save the file as a PC EPS. This causes the Mac to loose its mind. The solution is rather simple, use Ghostscript to convert the Binary EPS into ASCII EPS and save that to the network. Then the PC and the Mac can both work on it. Quark Express files are another matter. It appears you must choose your platform: Mac or PC, and never, under any circumstances try and change that platform. Just opening up a Mac Quark file on a PC will mean that the Mac cannot access the files ever again. (I don't believe that, but that is what the Mac graphics people told me.) All in all, printing ususally works. It is just the little things like copying a file that kills me. (We won't talk about how you can crash a Novell server by copying files with a Mac, or how just copying, not moving, a file with the PC somehow makes the file incompatable with the Mac.) Jeffrey M\kern-.05em\raise.5ex\hbox{\b c}\kern-.05emArthur a.k.a. Jeffrey McArthur ATLIS Publishing Services http://members.home.net/jeffmcarthur/ _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 26-Sep-1998 11:19:39-GMT,3270;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA18969 for ; Sat, 26 Sep 1998 05:19:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA06865; Sat, 26 Sep 1998 06:05:20 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 26 Sep 1998 06:03:22 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA06749; Sat, 26 Sep 1998 06:03:21 -0500 From: "Jane Edwards" To: Cc: Subject: RE: [PDF] Adding page numbers via distill or exchange Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1998 07:00:03 -0400 Message-ID: <000d01bde93c$d0986600$e015b0cf@cpcug.org.cpcug.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <360BDB2B.24E6E76E@esource.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== In the merged Word document, search for section breaks and delete them. Edit, Replace Click More to expand the dialog box Choose Special, Line Break (^b) Replace with Special, Paragraph mark (^p) Jane -----Original Message----- From: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com [mailto:owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com]On Behalf Of John H Sent: Friday, September 25, 1998 2:05 PM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Adding page numbers via distill or exchange ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Hello, I've created a monstrous MS Word (98 on an NT) mail merge in order to make a 400 page directory. There are 200 companies, each gets a spread in the directory where data about them is displayed. Trouble: Word thinks the resulting 400 page document is actually a collection of 200 2-page letters, so I can't auto-page number in Word--I just get page 1, page 2, over and over again. If I print the Word doc to a PS file and distill, it becomes a single 400 page doc to Acrobat. Is there a way to add a postscript footer that will auto increment the page numbers? Please reply to me directly, I will summarize and re-post any solutions. Thanks, -- John Heiland mailto:jheiland@esource.com http://www.esource.com/ _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 26-Sep-1998 18:00:29-GMT,2164;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA25737 for ; Sat, 26 Sep 1998 12:00:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA23201; Sat, 26 Sep 1998 12:32:56 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 26 Sep 1998 12:27:54 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA22925; Sat, 26 Sep 1998 12:27:52 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980926133710.008581e0@iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1998 13:37:10 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] Adding page numbers via distill or exchange In-Reply-To: <360BDB2B.24E6E76E@esource.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== >Hello, >I've created a monstrous MS Word (98 on an NT) That'd be Word97, no? 98's the Mac version. But enough of my nitpicking ... >>mail merge in order to >make a 400 page directory. There are 200 companies, each gets a spread >in the directory where data about them is displayed. >Trouble: Word thinks the resulting 400 page document is actually a >collection of 200 2-page letters, ISTR seeing an option in Word to merge to a new Word document rather than to the printer. If that's correct, wouldn't that do what you want? Steve Rindsberg/Prez RDP http://www.rdpslides.com _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 26-Sep-1998 18:01:50-GMT,3194;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA25765 for ; Sat, 26 Sep 1998 12:01:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA23461; Sat, 26 Sep 1998 12:38:18 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 26 Sep 1998 12:36:06 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA23348; Sat, 26 Sep 1998 12:36:05 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980926134522.0082e500@iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1998 13:45:22 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] Re: Postscript vs. Encapsulated Postscript In-Reply-To: <36114bc2.5825384@mail> References: <199809231431.HAA21560@mail-303.corp.Adobe.COM> <36095cab.14258234@mail> <3.0.5.32.19980921130633.00911cb0@iglou.com> <3606A387.3E3BD315@moen.com> <3606B1F3.87C4D0EC@moen.com> <199809231431.HAA21560@mail-303.corp.Adobe.COM> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== > >I am talking about just accessing binary EPS files on the network with >different programs, and one in particular: PhotoShop. > >Our Mac graphics people would to into spasms if PhotoShop on the PC ever >touched one of the Mac EPS files. (I got into lots of fights and wanted to >throw all the Macs out the window, followed by the Mac zelots; but that is >another story.) But not an altogether unreasonable solution. > >If you have a binary, Mac EPS on a Novell network, and open up the file on a >PC using PhotoShop, every thing looks fine. But if you save the file back >to the network, PhotoShop will save the file as a PC EPS. This causes the >Mac to loose its mind. This has me curious. Unfortunately (or perhaps not) I don't have a Novell setup to test this on, but I wonder if it's something simpler, like the file losing its resource information as a result of having been opened and saved from a PC. Can the Mac folks start Photoshop, do File Open and grab the file w/o incident? IOW, are they just kvetching because they can't doubleclick the file like they're used to doing on the Mac normally? If that's not it, what exactly does the Mac do? And finally, am I losing my mind, or do I remember your sig line from Bix? Steve Rindsberg/Prez RDP http://www.rdpslides.com _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 26-Sep-1998 22:15:48-GMT,2089;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA00111 for ; Sat, 26 Sep 1998 16:15:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA32619; Sat, 26 Sep 1998 16:00:31 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 26 Sep 1998 15:56:50 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA32349; Sat, 26 Sep 1998 15:56:49 -0500 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Message: http:/www.WorldEnergy.com Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1998 14:56:05 -0600 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Hugh Evans Subject: [PDF] PDF files displaying slowly/Source MapInfo Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== I have a 36 * 36 inch document created in MapInfo. One layer of the document is a scanned tiff image. The top layer is made up of 100's of filled polygons (the scan is a map - the polygons are color coded land holdings). I create a PS file and then distill the document. In the PDF, the quality is excellent -and the tiff image draws very quickly - however it takes many minutes for the polygons to be drawn and each movement (pan) of the document requires a full redraw. Is there a solution to this problem? Regards, Hugh Evans _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 26-Sep-1998 23:49:10-GMT,2802;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA01683 for ; Sat, 26 Sep 1998 17:49:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA06484; Sat, 26 Sep 1998 18:32:05 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 26 Sep 1998 18:30:23 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA06371; Sat, 26 Sep 1998 18:30:20 -0500 Message-ID: <360D875F.2EC28A0E@empa.ch> Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1998 01:31:30 +0100 From: Erwin Widmer Organization: EMPA X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5b2 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: de-CH, en-US MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF files displaying slowly/Source MapInfo References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Hugh, Is the resolution of the polygons to high? If that PDF is only used on monitors the resolution should be down sampled to 72 dpi. That would make it appearing faster on the screen. Erwin Hugh Evans wrote: > ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== > > I have a 36 * 36 inch document created in MapInfo. One layer of the > document is a scanned tiff image. The top layer is made up of 100's of > filled polygons (the scan is a map - the polygons are color coded land > holdings). I create a PS file and then distill the document. In the PDF, > the quality is excellent -and the tiff image draws very quickly - however > it takes many minutes for the polygons to be drawn and each movement (pan) > of the document requires a full redraw. > > Is there a solution to this problem? > > Regards, > Hugh Evans > > _______________________________________________________ > > -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- > * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * > + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + > _______________________________________________________ _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 27-Sep-1998 1:48:06-GMT,4162;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA03728 for ; Sat, 26 Sep 1998 19:48:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA11452; Sat, 26 Sep 1998 20:31:09 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 26 Sep 1998 20:29:53 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA11342; Sat, 26 Sep 1998 20:29:52 -0500 Message-ID: <360D961D.8F82E2CE@avenza.com> Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1998 21:34:22 -0400 From: Ted Florence Organization: Avenza Global Technologies X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF files displaying slowly/Source MapInfo References: <360D875F.2EC28A0E@empa.ch> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== We have a map publishing product called, interestingly enough, MAPublisher. It operates inside Adobe Illustrator and was specifically designed to be used with GIS files from places like MapInfo, Arcviews, USGS etc. One of the features it boats is a specially designed PDF file export which not only produces a well optimized PDF, but also one in which the map data attributes are also preserved in the PDF. They are also fully searchable and queriable inside Acrobat Reader. For more info, please visit www.avenza.com and look for the JAMBuddy PDF product. You may also email us back or call 800-884-2555. Regars Erwin Widmer wrote: > ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== > > Hugh, > > Is the resolution of the polygons to high? If that PDF is only used on > monitors the resolution should be down sampled to 72 dpi. That would make it > appearing faster on the screen. > > Erwin > > Hugh Evans wrote: > > > ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== > > > > I have a 36 * 36 inch document created in MapInfo. One layer of the > > document is a scanned tiff image. The top layer is made up of 100's of > > filled polygons (the scan is a map - the polygons are color coded land > > holdings). I create a PS file and then distill the document. In the PDF, > > the quality is excellent -and the tiff image draws very quickly - however > > it takes many minutes for the polygons to be drawn and each movement (pan) > > of the document requires a full redraw. > > > > Is there a solution to this problem? > > > > Regards, > > Hugh Evans > > > > _______________________________________________________ > > > > -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- > > * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * > > + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + > > _______________________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________________ > > -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- > * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * > + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + > _______________________________________________________ -- Ted Florence Executive Vice-President ted@avenza.com Avenza Software Developers of MAPublisher, MAPublisher-GPS, CADpublisher & JAMBuddy ***** Bridging the gap between GIS and cartography ***** Visit http://www.avenza.com Check out JAMBuddy and make your graphics INTELLIGENT *******MAKE YOUR PICTURES WORTH 1000 WORDS******* _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 27-Sep-1998 1:55:17-GMT,2114;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA03832 for ; Sat, 26 Sep 1998 19:55:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA12240; Sat, 26 Sep 1998 20:44:29 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 26 Sep 1998 20:43:36 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA12162; Sat, 26 Sep 1998 20:43:33 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19980926194032.03091830@mail.geocities.com> X-Sender: john_meyer@mail.geocities.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1998 19:40:32 -0600 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: John Meyer Subject: [PDF] Creating PDFs in PM6.5 v. Acrobat Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== hi, just what are the differences between creating a pdf in Pagemaker versus creating one in Acrobat. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- John Meyer john_meyer@geocities.com Life and Leisure Editor-USC Today http://www.uscolo.edu/usctoday "Anyone who fights for the future, lives in it today" -Ayn Rand "Bad Cop! No Donut!" --------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 27-Sep-1998 3:00:37-GMT,2698;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA05004 for ; Sat, 26 Sep 1998 21:00:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA14515; Sat, 26 Sep 1998 21:34:52 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 26 Sep 1998 21:33:46 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA14450; Sat, 26 Sep 1998 21:33:44 -0500 Message-Id: <199809270233.TAA23659@stork.prod.itd.earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.0c (197) Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1998 19:36:39 -0800 Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF files displaying slowly/Source MapInfo From: "C. Scott Miller" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== >I have a 36 * 36 inch document created in MapInfo. One layer of the >document is a scanned tiff image. The top layer is made up of 100's of >filled polygons (the scan is a map - the polygons are color coded land >holdings). I create a PS file and then distill the document. In the PDF, >the quality is excellent -and the tiff image draws very quickly - however >it takes many minutes for the polygons to be drawn and each movement (pan) >of the document requires a full redraw. You might try modifying the image in Adobe Illustrator (7.x). Without seeing the document it is hard to tell, but if there is anyway to simplify the image, Illustrator could probably help. For instance: - Open the document. - Select a polygon with a common color. - Edit/Select all objects with the Same Fill Color - Object/Pathfinder/Unite. This will reduce the number of polygons if they are adjacent to one another. C. Scott Miller PDF R_e_s_e_a_r_c_h__C_o_m_p_a_n_i_o_n A Designer's Guide to Adobe's Portable Document Format http://www.performancegraphics.com a production of Performance Graphics miller@performancegraphics.com _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 27-Sep-1998 3:00:39-GMT,2774;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA05011 for ; Sat, 26 Sep 1998 21:00:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA14179; Sat, 26 Sep 1998 21:27:02 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 26 Sep 1998 21:24:06 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA14011; Sat, 26 Sep 1998 21:24:03 -0500 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <360D961D.8F82E2CE@avenza.com> References: <360D875F.2EC28A0E@empa.ch> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Message: http:/www.WorldEnergy.com Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1998 20:23:34 -0600 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Hugh Evans Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF files displaying slowly/Source MapInfo Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== > > > > Hugh, > > > > Is the resolution of the polygons to high? If that PDF is only used on > > monitors the resolution should be down sampled to 72 dpi. That would >make it > > appearing faster on the screen. > > > > Erwin I would need to be able to print at a quality resolution. I'm wondering if there is a way to combine all the polygon objects into one so each polygon would not have to be drawn. I do not have to edit the PDF. Regards, Hugh > > > > Hugh Evans wrote: > > > > > ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== > > > > > > I have a 36 * 36 inch document created in MapInfo. One layer of the > > > document is a scanned tiff image. The top layer is made up of 100's of > > > filled polygons (the scan is a map - the polygons are color coded land > > > holdings). I create a PS file and then distill the document. In the PDF, > > > the quality is excellent -and the tiff image draws very quickly - however > > > it takes many minutes for the polygons to be drawn and each movement >(pan) > > > of the document requires a full redraw. > > > > > > Is there a solution to this problem? > > > > > > Regards, > > > Hugh Evans _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 27-Sep-1998 6:30:56-GMT,6922;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA09050 for ; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 00:30:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA22541; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 01:13:40 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 27 Sep 1998 01:12:24 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA22484; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 01:12:22 -0500 From: jeffmcarthur@home.com (Jeffrey McArthur) To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Re: Postscript vs. Encapsulated Postscript Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1998 06:01:28 GMT Organization: ATLIS Publishing Services Message-ID: <360dcb2f.418995@mail> References: <199809231431.HAA21560@mail-303.corp.Adobe.COM> <36095cab.14258234@mail> <3.0.5.32.19980921130633.00911cb0@iglou.com> <3606A387.3E3BD315@moen.com> <3606B1F3.87C4D0EC@moen.com> <199809231431.HAA21560@mail-303.corp.Adobe.COM> <3.0.5.32.19980926134522.0082e500@iglou.com> In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19980926134522.0082e500@iglou.com> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id BAA22480 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== On Sat, 26 Sep 1998 13:45:22 -0400, you wrote: >>If you have a binary, Mac EPS on a Novell network, and open up the file on a >>PC using PhotoShop, every thing looks fine. But if you save the file back >>to the network, PhotoShop will save the file as a PC EPS. This causes the >>Mac to loose its mind. > >This has me curious. Unfortunately (or perhaps not) I don't have a Novell >setup to test this on, but I wonder if it's something simpler, like the >file losing its resource information as a result of having been opened and >saved from a PC. Can the Mac folks start Photoshop, do File Open and grab >the file w/o incident? IOW, are they just kvetching because they can't >doubleclick the file like they're used to doing on the Mac normally? If >that's not it, what exactly does the Mac do? That may have been part of it. But there were cases where files were "corrupted" during this process. The Mac uses a carriage return (CR) to mark the end of a line; Unix uses a line feed (LF); and the PC uses both (CR-LF). One verson of Quark for the Mac had obviously been ported from a Unix source code. The reason I know this is that in some odd cases the EPS created by Quark on the Mac will suddently change from using CRs to using LFs and then switch back. If you only touch this file using Quark on the Mac, you are OK. If you pull this file up into PhotoShop on the Mac, it appears to maintain the CR then LF weirdness. If you pull the file up into PhotoShop for the PC, then save it, it converts the CRs and LFs into CR-LF. For some weird reason this then freaks Quark and PhotoShop out on the Mac because neither program can then properly read the file. When we were doing all this processing, I constantly heard the whine from the Mac users, "the PC has corrupted my graphic. It worked perfectly fine on the Mac, but now its broken." To be blunt, I strongly recommend a homogeneous work environment. If you like Mac, then stay with them and never under any circomstances allow a PC into your shop. Personally, I prefer PCs and would like to have kept all the Macs our of the building. But I am also keenly aware of our business needs. I was told by many people, that we absolutely, positively had to have a Mac connected to our network. I fought them tooth and nail; but once we got them I knew they needed to be connected to the network. So I again had to fight with our corporate IS people to put the Macs on our network. (I can now prove that the people who told me we absolutely, positively had to have a Mac were lying; but that is another topic.) I got the Macs attached to our Novell servers, and then the "fun" began. I ended up writing a little program, we call FixEps, which reads an EPS file in and makes sure that the output is a PC ASCII EPS. It is a simple little program that just looks at the first two bytes of the file and determines if it is a binary or ascii eps and outputs only the ascii file, with CR-LF pairs. I did this before I found that GhostScript will do the same thing but will do it a lot better because GhostScript actually understands the EPS file. Ghostscript is really a tremendous program. It makes working with postscript files bearable. I have been using PDFTeX, which is a version of TeX that outputs PDF files. PDFTeX does not support EPS inclusion, but does support placable PDF. Because I use "unusual tools" I often get into weird situations. One of the things I do for fun is draw maps using a tool called Campaign Cartographer 2 (CC2). I have the PDF Writer installed and can output PDF files from CC2. The problem is that PDF Writer often creates "invalid" PDF files. I got into a long and unfriendly discussion with several people about this. PDFTeX can include PDF files, but not ones created by CC2 and PDF-Writer. Actually PDFTeX cannot include PDF files created by CC2 writing a Postscript file that is then distilled by Distiller. It appears that Acrobat PDF-Writer, and Distiller will under certain situations create PDF files that do not quite match the Adobe printed specifications (CC2 is one of the programs that demonstrates this problem). What this means is that you can view the PDFs with Acrobat but PDFTeX cannot use them. The solution is to use Ghostscript as a filter. So I have sort of come to the conclusion, "you have no idea where that EPS or PDF have been, so before you use them, you should wash them with Ghostcript to make sure you get all the cruddies out of them". >And finally, am I losing my mind, or do I remember your sig line from Bix? Yes, I was on Bix for a long time. Finally dropped Bix, when Jean van Watershoot died, and support for his newsreader, Galahad, went away. Jeffrey M\kern-.05em\raise.5ex\hbox{\b c}\kern-.05emArthur a.k.a. Jeffrey McArthur ATLIS Publishing Services http://members.home.net/jeffmcarthur/ _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 27-Sep-1998 7:11:07-GMT,2262;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA09709 for ; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 01:11:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA23865; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 01:54:23 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 27 Sep 1998 01:53:22 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA23818; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 01:53:21 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Creating PDFs in PM6.5 v. Acrobat Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1998 07:50:07 +0100 Message-ID: <000001bde9e3$41987380$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.19980926194032.03091830@mail.geocities.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== > hi, just what are the differences between creating a pdf in Pagemaker > versus creating one in Acrobat. I'm assuming you know enough to realise that Acrobat is not an authoring tool; you do not design a page in Acrobat. When you export a PDF from PM 6.5, it uses Acrobat Distiller to do the conversion. So there isn't really any difference. However, when you use the Export PDF function, PageMaker is able to add extra information to the PostScript file it generates, so that there can be links and bookmarks in the final PDF file. Aandi _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 27-Sep-1998 20:25:47-GMT,3131;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA23556 for ; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 14:25:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA21519; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 15:07:16 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 27 Sep 1998 15:05:19 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA21308; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 15:05:12 -0500 Message-ID: <01BDEA28.24EC4FA0@cube293b> From: Steve Radlinger To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Convert PDF to PDF Image Only Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1998 15:04:19 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id PAA21304 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Hello: This is a problem that has stumped EVERYONE I've talked with from Adobe to 3rd party software companies. Current Process: We currently receive FDF from our web server via an HTML input form. (we are not using PDF forms on purpose). We import the FDF data via Exchange into a PDF document, that was created in Pagemaker and converted to PDF using PDFWriter, and saved. Now we want to fax the PDF file. When we email the PDF it's received and prints ok. When we fax from within Exchange using Microsoft Fax driver, for example, it works just fine. Problem #1: When we want to fax via a fax server all the FDF data is dropped and does not appear on the faxed PDF document. NO ONE can tell us how this happens. The only solution proposed is to convert the PDF to an image file. Any ideas on ensuring electronic FDF data is retained in PDF form when fax via fax server other than converting to image file? Problem #2: We have attempted to convert PDF file to PDF Image only. Ghostscript, converting PDF to Postscript via PS Plug in Exchange and then opening in Photoshop and Image Alchemy PS have all been tested WITHOUT success. They all convert the PDF image ok, but the FDF data is lost. The only solution is to print the PDF, scan it, save as image , then fax the PDF Image files. Any ideas on converting PDF files with FDF data to PDF Image only without have to print and scan (significant amount of time and cost if have to print and scan 1000's of PDF documents)? Thanks, Steve Radlinger President FormsFusion LLC sradling@mailbag.com _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 27-Sep-1998 20:37:59-GMT,2151;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA23737 for ; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 14:37:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA22721; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 15:28:55 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 27 Sep 1998 15:27:58 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA22637; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 15:27:57 -0500 Message-ID: From: Duff Johnson To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Convert PDF to PDF Image Only Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1998 13:31:51 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Steve: First....ouch! > Hello: This is a problem that has stumped EVERYONE I've > talked with from Adobe to 3rd party software companies. > Current Process: We currently receive FDF from our web server > via an HTML input form. (we are not using PDF forms on > purpose). We import the FDF data via Exchange into a PDF > document, that was created in Pagemaker and converted to PDF > using PDFWriter, and saved. Now we want to fax the PDF file. Hold it! Just to clarify... you ARE saving the file in Exchange first... right? Or do you just re-import each time you want to fax, or whatever...? Duff Johnson Document Solutions, Inc. _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 27-Sep-1998 22:02:10-GMT,4131;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA25174 for ; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 16:02:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA26014; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 16:48:12 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 27 Sep 1998 16:47:09 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA25895; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 16:47:05 -0500 Message-ID: <360EB154.5EF3@acm.org> Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1998 16:42:44 -0500 From: "Stephen D. Poe" Organization: -none- X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sradling@mailbag.com CC: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] Convert PDF to PDF Image Only Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Steve - I'll pass the question on to my staff. They will probably need some sample PDF files from you to test. We'd be providing you with a program product to take PDF files into TIFF files suitable for use as fax images (i.e., CCITT G3 fax TIFFs). I'll also have Pete Shotwell in our Sales Dept. contact you to discuss your volume requirements and whether you need this as a product for your internal use or to OEM into one of your products. Thanks, Stephen =================================================================== Stephen D. Poe, EDPP Chief Technology Officer The Xenos Group/GenText http://www.gentext.com stephen@gentext.com -or- 972.857.0776 "In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice, but in practice, there is." =================================================================== Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1998 15:04:19 -0500 From: Steve Radlinger Subject: [PDF] Convert PDF to PDF Image Only ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Hello: This is a problem that has stumped EVERYONE I've talked with from Adobe to 3rd party software companies. Current Process: We currently receive FDF from our web server via an HTML input form. (we are not using PDF forms on purpose). We import the FDF data via Exchange into a PDF document, that was created in Pagemaker and converted to PDF using PDFWriter, and saved. Now we want to fax the PDF file. When we email the PDF it's received and prints ok. When we fax from within Exchange using Microsoft Fax driver, for example, it works just fine. Problem #1: When we want to fax via a fax server all the FDF data is dropped and does not appear on the faxed PDF document. NO ONE can tell us how this happens. The only solution proposed is to convert the PDF to an image file. Any ideas on ensuring electronic FDF data is retained in PDF form when fax via fax server other than converting to image file? Problem #2: We have attempted to convert PDF file to PDF Image only. Ghostscript, converting PDF to Postscript via PS Plug in Exchange and then opening in Photoshop and Image Alchemy PS have all been tested WITHOUT success. They all convert the PDF image ok, but the FDF data is lost. The only solution is to print the PDF, scan it, save as image , then fax the PDF Image files. Any ideas on converting PDF files with FDF data to PDF Image only without have to print and scan (significant amount of time and cost if have to print and scan 1000's of PDF documents)? Thanks, Steve Radlinger President FormsFusion LLC sradling@mailbag.com _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 27-Sep-1998 22:12:16-GMT,4759;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA25387 for ; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 16:12:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA26403; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 16:55:12 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 27 Sep 1998 16:54:23 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA26323; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 16:54:21 -0500 Message-ID: <360EB154.5EF3@acm.org> Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1998 16:42:44 -0500 From: "Stephen D. Poe" Organization: -none- X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 Old-To: sradling@mailbag.com CC: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] Convert PDF to PDF Image Only Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com X-Loop: forwarded by miller@performancegraphics.com To: millercs@earthlink.net Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Steve - I'll pass the question on to my staff. They will probably need some sample PDF files from you to test. We'd be providing you with a program product to take PDF files into TIFF files suitable for use as fax images (i.e., CCITT G3 fax TIFFs). I'll also have Pete Shotwell in our Sales Dept. contact you to discuss your volume requirements and whether you need this as a product for your internal use or to OEM into one of your products. Thanks, Stephen =================================================================== Stephen D. Poe, EDPP Chief Technology Officer The Xenos Group/GenText http://www.gentext.com stephen@gentext.com -or- 972.857.0776 "In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice, but in practice, there is." =================================================================== Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1998 15:04:19 -0500 From: Steve Radlinger Subject: [PDF] Convert PDF to PDF Image Only ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Hello: This is a problem that has stumped EVERYONE I've talked with from Adobe to 3rd party software companies. Current Process: We currently receive FDF from our web server via an HTML input form. (we are not using PDF forms on purpose). We import the FDF data via Exchange into a PDF document, that was created in Pagemaker and converted to PDF using PDFWriter, and saved. Now we want to fax the PDF file. When we email the PDF it's received and prints ok. When we fax from within Exchange using Microsoft Fax driver, for example, it works just fine. Problem #1: When we want to fax via a fax server all the FDF data is dropped and does not appear on the faxed PDF document. NO ONE can tell us how this happens. The only solution proposed is to convert the PDF to an image file. Any ideas on ensuring electronic FDF data is retained in PDF form when fax via fax server other than converting to image file? Problem #2: We have attempted to convert PDF file to PDF Image only. Ghostscript, converting PDF to Postscript via PS Plug in Exchange and then opening in Photoshop and Image Alchemy PS have all been tested WITHOUT success. They all convert the PDF image ok, but the FDF data is lost. The only solution is to print the PDF, scan it, save as image , then fax the PDF Image files. Any ideas on converting PDF files with FDF data to PDF Image only without have to print and scan (significant amount of time and cost if have to print and scan 1000's of PDF documents)? Thanks, Steve Radlinger President FormsFusion LLC sradling@mailbag.com _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 27-Sep-1998 22:49:26-GMT,2865;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA26068 for ; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 16:49:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA28131; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 17:31:22 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 27 Sep 1998 17:30:15 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA28079; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 17:30:13 -0500 Message-ID: <360ECAC6.B50178EB@empa.ch> Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 00:31:21 +0100 From: Erwin Widmer Organization: EMPA X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5b2 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: de-CH, en-US MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Creating PDFs in PM6.5 v. Acrobat References: <3.0.6.32.19980926194032.03091830@mail.geocities.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== John, The difference is that you get directly a PDF out of PageMaker. Otherwise you would have to print a PageMaker document to PS and then start Distiller. PageMaker does that all for you. There should not be a difference in the PDF document. At least I never saw any quality differences between these two methods. Has anybody else? Erwin John Meyer wrote: > ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== > > hi, just what are the differences between creating a pdf in Pagemaker > versus creating one in Acrobat. > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > John Meyer > john_meyer@geocities.com > Life and Leisure Editor-USC Today > http://www.uscolo.edu/usctoday > > "Anyone who fights for the future, lives in it today" -Ayn Rand > "Bad Cop! No Donut!" > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > _______________________________________________________ > > -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- > * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * > + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + > _______________________________________________________ _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 28-Sep-1998 8:07:17-GMT,2932;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA06524 for ; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 02:07:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id DAA19476; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 03:05:53 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 28 Sep 1998 03:02:28 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA19309; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 03:02:26 -0500 From: "David Cornwell" To: Cc: "PDF mailing list - technical" Subject: RE: [PDFdev] Forms --> PDF --> fax [was: Convert PDF Normal to PDF Image Only] Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 09:06:26 +0100 Message-ID: <000101bdeab6$e3d24e40$0441a8c0@davec.docctrl.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <01BDEA22.85DA3620@cube293b> Sender: owner-pdfdev@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdfdev@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDFdev discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Steve >Current Process: We currently receive FDF from our web server via > an HTML input form. (we are not using PDF forms on purpose). We > import the FDF data via Exchange into a PDF document, that was > created in Pagemaker and converted to PDF using PDFWriter, and > saved. Now we want to fax the PDF file. When we email the PDF > it's received and prints ok. When we fax from within Exchange > using Microsoft Fax driver, for example, it works just fine. > I can't comment on your problems as I haven't a clue. What I do know is that people have successfully implemented the process you describe above with PDFfusion. This allows the inclusion of metadata into PDF files but does not use the forms functionality. Further details from www.docctrl.com or contact me off-line to discuss an evaluation. drc --- David Cornwell, Director - Business Development Computerised Document Control Ltd PO Box 5, Chepstow, Monmouthshire, NP6 6YU, United Kingdom Tel: + 44 (0) 1291 635 403 (direct) ; USA: 1-888-240-1752 Fax: + 44 (0) 1291 623 902 www.docctrl.com Forging the link between Document Systems and Acrobat > __________________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDFdev discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdfdev/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + __________________________________________________________ 28-Sep-1998 8:28:54-GMT,2920;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA06898 for ; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 02:28:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA19616; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 03:10:09 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 28 Sep 1998 03:02:31 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA19331; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 03:02:29 -0500 From: "David Cornwell" To: Cc: "PDF mailing list - technical" Subject: [PDF] RE: [PDFdev] Forms --> PDF --> fax [was: Convert PDF Normal to PDF Image Only] Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 09:06:26 +0100 Message-ID: <000101bdeab6$e3d24e40$0441a8c0@davec.docctrl.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <01BDEA22.85DA3620@cube293b> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Steve >Current Process: We currently receive FDF from our web server via > an HTML input form. (we are not using PDF forms on purpose). We > import the FDF data via Exchange into a PDF document, that was > created in Pagemaker and converted to PDF using PDFWriter, and > saved. Now we want to fax the PDF file. When we email the PDF > it's received and prints ok. When we fax from within Exchange > using Microsoft Fax driver, for example, it works just fine. > I can't comment on your problems as I haven't a clue. What I do know is that people have successfully implemented the process you describe above with PDFfusion. This allows the inclusion of metadata into PDF files but does not use the forms functionality. Further details from www.docctrl.com or contact me off-line to discuss an evaluation. drc --- David Cornwell, Director - Business Development Computerised Document Control Ltd PO Box 5, Chepstow, Monmouthshire, NP6 6YU, United Kingdom Tel: + 44 (0) 1291 635 403 (direct) ; USA: 1-888-240-1752 Fax: + 44 (0) 1291 623 902 www.docctrl.com Forging the link between Document Systems and Acrobat > _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 28-Sep-1998 8:31:55-GMT,3548;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA07119 for ; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 02:31:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA19991; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 03:20:04 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 28 Sep 1998 03:15:08 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA19766; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 03:15:05 -0500 From: "David Cornwell" Old-To: Cc: "PDF mailing list - technical" Subject: [PDF] RE: [PDFdev] Forms --> PDF --> fax [was: Convert PDF Normal to PDF Image Only] Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 09:06:26 +0100 Message-ID: <000101bdeab6$e3d24e40$0441a8c0@davec.docctrl.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <01BDEA22.85DA3620@cube293b> URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com X-Loop: forwarded by miller@performancegraphics.com To: millercs@earthlink.net Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Steve >Current Process: We currently receive FDF from our web server via > an HTML input form. (we are not using PDF forms on purpose). We > import the FDF data via Exchange into a PDF document, that was > created in Pagemaker and converted to PDF using PDFWriter, and > saved. Now we want to fax the PDF file. When we email the PDF > it's received and prints ok. When we fax from within Exchange > using Microsoft Fax driver, for example, it works just fine. > I can't comment on your problems as I haven't a clue. What I do know is that people have successfully implemented the process you describe above with PDFfusion. This allows the inclusion of metadata into PDF files but does not use the forms functionality. Further details from www.docctrl.com or contact me off-line to discuss an evaluation. drc --- David Cornwell, Director - Business Development Computerised Document Control Ltd PO Box 5, Chepstow, Monmouthshire, NP6 6YU, United Kingdom Tel: + 44 (0) 1291 635 403 (direct) ; USA: 1-888-240-1752 Fax: + 44 (0) 1291 623 902 www.docctrl.com Forging the link between Document Systems and Acrobat > _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 28-Sep-1998 13:30:34-GMT,2292;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA12270 for ; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 07:30:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA30214; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 08:04:58 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 28 Sep 1998 08:03:40 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA30128; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 08:03:39 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: KEYCORP From: "Karen L Mibus" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <8525668D.0044D92D.00@keybank.com> Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 08:37:13 -0400 Subject: Re: [PDF] Re: Postscript vs. Encapsulated Postscript Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Jeffrey Kern wrote: >Avoid binary eps files >Avoid Bitstream fonts >Avoid bitmapped fonts >Avoid using Acrobat 3.0 if you have a Epson 600 printer (2.0 works fine) >Avoid printing PDF files to HP printers unless they have postscript >If using OLE to control Acrobat Exchange do not try and print more than 200 >documents without resetting the entire computer. >If at all possible, do not install ATM on a PC. Why avoid printing PDF files to HP printers? Adobe provides a fix upgrade 3.01RA for printing PDFs to HP printers without PostScript. I tested this upgrade and it solved our problems with printing screen captures within PDF files. Of course, HP printers without PostScript do not print produce the same quality as a true PostScript printer, but they're close. Why avoid using ATM on a PC???? --Karen _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 28-Sep-1998 13:39:01-GMT,2933;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA12446 for ; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 07:38:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA30998; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 08:18:55 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 28 Sep 1998 08:17:57 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA30940; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 08:17:55 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Saccuzzo, Robin" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] Printing a List of PDF File Names Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 08:23:20 -0500 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Checkout pc computing's web site to print the contents of a folder http://www.zdnet.com/pccomp/features/excl1098/superguide/registry.html Best, Robin -----Original Message----- From: Wraight, David D. [SMTP:David.Wraight@woodside.com.au] Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 1998 8:24 PM To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' Subject: RE: [PDF] Printing a List of PDF File Names ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Kathy, I have 2 ideas - 1. Run a COMMAND prompt and then do a DIR listing to the printer - DIR > LPT1. OR 2. Download a program called ExpPrint which is a shell extension for Explorer allowing you do all sorts of wonderful directory listings. I found the www address for you: http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/jdd/ Hope this helps. d............................. > From Windows Explorer, I want to print a listing of pdf files in a > specific > directory. I thought there would be a print option to only print a > list of > file names not the actual file. Using DOS you could print a directory > to a > file or printer. Any suggestions? _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 28-Sep-1998 13:53:06-GMT,2005;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA12768 for ; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 07:52:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA32004; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 08:36:12 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 28 Sep 1998 08:35:05 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA31886; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 08:35:02 -0500 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] QuickTime, Acrobat, and Y2000 In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 25 Sep 1998 15:13:23 EDT." <8525668A.0069514E.00@keybank.com> Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 14:34:51 +0100 Message-ID: <16403.906989691@isode.com> From: Chris Ridd Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== On Fri, 25 Sep 1998 15:13:23 EDT, "Karen L Mibus" wrote: > > ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== > > > Does anyone know whether Acrobat works with any other movie player besides > QuickTime? Also, does anyone know if QuickTime 3+ is year 2000 compliant? > I was told that QuickTime 2+ is not Y2000 compliant and that Apple has no > intention of making QT 2+ compliant. > > --Karen Do you have a reference to QT 2 being non-compliant? On all platforms? Chris (C.Ridd@isode.com) _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 28-Sep-1998 14:27:49-GMT,1977;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA13568 for ; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 08:27:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA00708; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 09:02:01 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 28 Sep 1998 09:00:51 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA00649; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 09:00:49 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980928101010.009028c0@iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 10:10:10 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] Creating PDFs in PM6.5 v. Acrobat In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.19980926194032.03091830@mail.geocities.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== > >hi, just what are the differences between creating a pdf in Pagemaker >versus creating one in Acrobat. > > > None, really, except that it may be more convenient to do it from within Pagemaker, which automates some of the Acrobat (ie, PDFWriter or Distiller) processing for you. Either way, you go through Acrobat to get to PDF. Steve Rindsberg/Prez RDP http://www.rdpslides.com _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 28-Sep-1998 14:32:26-GMT,3519;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA13676 for ; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 08:32:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA01373; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 09:11:00 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 28 Sep 1998 09:09:55 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA01252; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 09:09:54 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980928101915.00916780@iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 10:19:15 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] Re: Postscript vs. Encapsulated Postscript In-Reply-To: <360dcb2f.418995@mail> References: <3.0.5.32.19980926134522.0082e500@iglou.com> <199809231431.HAA21560@mail-303.corp.Adobe.COM> <36095cab.14258234@mail> <3.0.5.32.19980921130633.00911cb0@iglou.com> <3606A387.3E3BD315@moen.com> <3606B1F3.87C4D0EC@moen.com> <199809231431.HAA21560@mail-303.corp.Adobe.COM> <3.0.5.32.19980926134522.0082e500@iglou.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== >That may have been part of it. But there were cases where files were >"corrupted" during this process. The Mac uses a carriage return (CR) to >mark the end of a line; Unix uses a line feed (LF); and the PC uses both >(CR-LF). Ah. OK. Again, Me = NovellClueless, but with most of the Mac/PC translation apps I've seen, there's an option that controls whether you want to convert from PC to Mac text, and indeed, leaving that turned on will often corrupt EPS/PS files from a PC. You might want to see if the Novell software that handles Mac to PC/PC to Mac file mapping has such an option. >To be blunt, I strongly recommend a homogeneous work environment. If you >like Mac, then stay with them and never under any circomstances allow a PC >into your shop. Personally, I prefer PCs 'bout the same here, but our work requires me to have a Mac as well, this on an NT Server-based network with Mac Services installed for file/printer sharing. Generally, I've found that if I turn off some of these "too damn smart for their own good" conversion features, it all works pretty smoothly (but then I have a PC-user's mindset re filenames and such, which certainly helps lube the process). >Yes, I was on Bix for a long time. Finally dropped Bix, when Jean van >Watershoot died, and support for his newsreader, Galahad, went away. I must have left before that happened, and I've very sorry to hear it. Jean really was a paragon, wasn't he? Steve (ex srindsberg on bix) Steve Rindsberg/Prez RDP http://www.rdpslides.com _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 28-Sep-1998 17:18:16-GMT,2551;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA18028 for ; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 11:18:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA11067; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 11:43:46 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 28 Sep 1998 11:42:24 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA10957; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 11:42:22 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: KEYCORP From: "Karen L Mibus" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <8525668D.004E2F53.00@keybank.com> Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 10:17:26 -0400 Subject: Re: [PDF] QuickTime, Acrobat, and Y2000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Chris: I was told by our Y2000 team (who say they contacted Apple directly) that QuickTime 2+ is not Y2 compliant and that Apple has no intention of making it compliant. The only platform I'm aware of that's affected by the Y2000 issue is PC. Apple computers never had a Y2000 issue. --Karen C.Ridd@isode.com on 09/28/98 09:34:51 AM Please respond to pdf@lists.pdfzone.com To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com cc: (bcc: Karen L Mibus/NE/KSC/KeyCorp) Subject: Re: [PDF] QuickTime, Acrobat, and Y2000 ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== On Fri, 25 Sep 1998 15:13:23 EDT, "Karen L Mibus" wrote: > > ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== > > > Does anyone know whether Acrobat works with any other movie player besides > QuickTime? Also, does anyone know if QuickTime 3+ is year 2000 compliant? > I was told that QuickTime 2+ is not Y2000 compliant and that Apple has no > intention of making QT 2+ compliant. > > --Karen Do you have a reference to QT 2 being non-compliant? On all platforms? Chris (C.Ridd@isode.com _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 28-Sep-1998 17:20:44-GMT,2115;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA18089 for ; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 11:20:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA11991; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 11:53:50 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 28 Sep 1998 11:52:57 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA11898; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 11:52:56 -0500 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] QuickTime, Acrobat, and Y2000 In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 28 Sep 1998 10:17:26 EDT." <8525668D.004E2F53.00@keybank.com> Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 17:52:50 +0100 Message-ID: <16806.907001570@isode.com> From: Chris Ridd Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== On Mon, 28 Sep 1998 10:17:26 EDT, "Karen L Mibus" wrote: > > ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== > > > Chris: > I was told by our Y2000 team (who say they contacted Apple directly) that > QuickTime 2+ is not Y2 compliant and that Apple has no intention of making > it compliant. The only platform I'm aware of that's affected by the Y2000 > issue is PC. Apple computers never had a Y2000 issue. Thanks for the info. I couldn't find anything about it on their web site! You can see why they're not keen to update obsolete versions of free software, I suppose. Chris (C.Ridd@isode.com) _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 28-Sep-1998 18:07:02-GMT,2395;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA19390 for ; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 12:06:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA15419; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 12:38:57 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 28 Sep 1998 12:37:53 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA15361; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 12:37:52 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: KEYCORP From: "Karen L Mibus" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <8525668D.005FE9E9.00@keybank.com> Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 13:34:33 -0400 Subject: Re: [PDF] QuickTime, Acrobat, and Y2000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Chris wrote: >You can see why they're not keen to update obsolete versions of free >software, I suppose. >Chris >(C.Ridd@isode.com) QuickTime is a widely distributed and well used application across platforms. Although the viewer is free, Apple hopes to sell it's QuickTime Pro 3.0 for creating, editing, publishing as well as viewing digital media. >From Apple's own QuickTime 3 promo page: QuickTime brings news events alive on the World Wide Web, enriches the experience of educational CD-ROMs and entertainment DVDs, and provides high-quality video for broadcasters. In fact, more than 10,000 multimedia products and an estimated half of all media-enabled web sites incorporate QuickTime elements. With this type of market presence and aspirations, Apple would be very wise to make their "free software" Y2000 compliant. Otherwise, companies like mine will look elsewhere for their movie viewers. --Karen _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 28-Sep-1998 21:07:35-GMT,2759;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA24106 for ; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 15:07:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA26704; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 15:26:57 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 28 Sep 1998 15:24:17 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA26475; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 15:24:15 -0500 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <8525668D.005FE9E9.00@keybank.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 13:22:42 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Todd Ruston Subject: Re: [PDF] QuickTime, Acrobat, and Y2000 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== At 1:34 PM -0400 9/28/98, Karen L Mibus wrote: > Chris wrote: > > >You can see why they're not keen to update obsolete versions of free > >software, I suppose. > >Chris > >(C.Ridd@isode.com) > > QuickTime is a widely distributed and well used application across > platforms. Although the viewer is free, Apple hopes to sell it's QuickTime > Pro 3.0 for creating, editing, publishing as well as viewing digital media. > >From Apple's own QuickTime 3 promo page: > > QuickTime brings news events alive on the World Wide Web, enriches the > experience of educational CD-ROMs and entertainment DVDs, and provides > high-quality video for broadcasters. In fact, more than 10,000 > multimedia products and an estimated half of all media-enabled web sites > incorporate QuickTime elements. > > With this type of market presence and aspirations, Apple would be very wise > to make their "free software" Y2000 compliant. Otherwise, companies like > mine will look elsewhere for their movie viewers. > > --Karen QT3 is free. You only need to pay if you want the authoring features. -- Todd Ruston | mailto:truston@libpubinc.com Computer Services Manager | Voice: 323.871.1225 x 3028 Liberation Publications, Inc. | Fax: 323.467.0173 _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 28-Sep-1998 21:50:16-GMT,2023;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA25163 for ; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 15:50:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA30219; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 16:19:34 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 28 Sep 1998 16:18:27 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA30136; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 16:18:25 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: KEYCORP From: "Karen L Mibus" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <8525668D.00722495.00@keybank.com> Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 17:07:23 -0400 Subject: [PDF] PDF and FrameMaker Document Management Tools Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Hi, I'm looking for a PDF and FrameMaker document management tool that will manage all document/library related assets (graphic files, Word and Excel appendix files, etc.) including version control. I've looked into AuthorAssistant, but it only runs on an NT server and we have a Novell network. Please let me know your thoughts about using document management tools and post your reasons for recommending a particular document management tool. I'd like to know what qualities are important to have in such a tool. Thank you in advance. --Karen _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 28-Sep-1998 22:36:29-GMT,2926;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA26416 for ; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 16:36:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA00933; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 17:06:14 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 28 Sep 1998 17:05:18 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA00887; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 17:05:14 -0500 Message-ID: <00b801bdeb2b$094ffcc0$b2c314d1@Prometheus.main> From: "Ian Lurie" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] Batch Import of FDF data into PDF Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 14:56:50 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Steve, It seems to me that you might use a combination of dynamic FDF and page templates (which require the free Forms Fill-in and Author plug-ins). Sorry I don't have more details -- I've only experimented with templates here and there.... Ian Lurie The Written Word, Inc. Information Design Online, On Paper, and On the Web http://www.writtenword.com -----Original Message----- From: Steve Radlinger To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' Date: Monday, September 28, 1998 2:55 PM Subject: [PDF] Batch Import of FDF data into PDF > >====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== > >Hello: > >At present, we import each FDF data file manually into a PDF document in Exchange. We would ideally like to batch import FDF data files into the same PDF and save each as individual, unique PDF documents with sequential file names. Any suggestions or available software that does this? > >Sincerely, > >Steve Radlinger >sradling@mailbag.com > > >_______________________________________________________ > >-> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- >* http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * >+ Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + >_______________________________________________________ > > > _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 28-Sep-1998 22:38:10-GMT,1917;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA26462 for ; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 16:38:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA32550; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 16:49:01 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 28 Sep 1998 16:47:28 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA32465; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 16:47:26 -0500 Message-ID: <01BDEAFF.96C820E0@cube293b> From: Steve Radlinger To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Batch Import of FDF data into PDF Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 16:46:43 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id QAA32460 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Hello: At present, we import each FDF data file manually into a PDF document in Exchange. We would ideally like to batch import FDF data files into the same PDF and save each as individual, unique PDF documents with sequential file names. Any suggestions or available software that does this? Sincerely, Steve Radlinger sradling@mailbag.com _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 28-Sep-1998 23:13:47-GMT,3607;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA27284 for ; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 17:13:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA03089; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 17:51:02 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 28 Sep 1998 17:49:26 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA02918; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 17:49:25 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Czajka, Mark" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] QuickTime, Acrobat, and Y2000 Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1998 18:50:13 -0400 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== I understand that if you want to distribute QT3 on CD, Apple requires a royalty! This is not the case for QT2x. Can anyone elaborate on this? > -----Original Message----- > From: Todd Ruston [SMTP:truston@libpubinc.com] > Sent: Monday, September 28, 1998 4:23 PM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: Re: [PDF] QuickTime, Acrobat, and Y2000 > > > ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== > > At 1:34 PM -0400 9/28/98, Karen L Mibus wrote: > > > > Chris wrote: > > > > >You can see why they're not keen to update obsolete versions of > free > > >software, I suppose. > > >Chris > > >(C.Ridd@isode.com) > > > > QuickTime is a widely distributed and well used application across > > platforms. Although the viewer is free, Apple hopes to sell it's > QuickTime > > Pro 3.0 for creating, editing, publishing as well as viewing digital > media. > > >From Apple's own QuickTime 3 promo page: > > > > QuickTime brings news events alive on the World Wide Web, > enriches the > > experience of educational CD-ROMs and entertainment DVDs, and > provides > > high-quality video for broadcasters. In fact, more than 10,000 > > multimedia products and an estimated half of all media-enabled > web sites > > incorporate QuickTime elements. > > > > With this type of market presence and aspirations, Apple would be > very wise > > to make their "free software" Y2000 compliant. Otherwise, companies > like > > mine will look elsewhere for their movie viewers. > > > > --Karen > > QT3 is free. You only need to pay if you want the authoring features. > > > -- > Todd Ruston | mailto:truston@libpubinc.com > Computer Services Manager | Voice: 323.871.1225 x 3028 > Liberation Publications, Inc. | Fax: 323.467.0173 > > > > _______________________________________________________ > > -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- > * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * > + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + > _______________________________________________________ > _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 28-Sep-1998 23:26:12-GMT,2882;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA27573 for ; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 17:26:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA04207; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 18:10:51 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 28 Sep 1998 18:09:47 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA04111; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 18:09:46 -0500 X-Sender: prodok@pop.eunet.ch Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <01BDEAFF.96C820E0@cube293b> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 01:09:48 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Max Wyss Subject: Re: [PDF] Batch Import of FDF data into PDF Cc: Steve Radlinger Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Steve, on the Mac, you would have a few ways to do this. If you have the /F option set in your FDFs, you could use an AppleScript which opens the FDF (which automagically opens the approrpriate base PDF) and save it. If you don't have the /F option, but Filemaker Pro, you could set up a database which contains the FDF file name, the base PDF file name, the target PDF file name. It would contain a script which initiates an AppleScript which you do create based on the data in each record. You may need QuicKeys in order to make Exchange import the FDF (Exchange's AppleScript support is pretty lousy ). I did use the second method for creating about 12000 PDFs based on around 100 base PDFs. Hope, this can help. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering AG Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch WWW: http://www.prodok.ch/prodok Bridging the Knowledge Gap ______________________ >Hello: > >At present, we import each FDF data file manually into a PDF document in >Exchange. We would ideally like to batch import FDF data files into the >same PDF and save each as individual, unique PDF documents with sequential >file names. Any suggestions or available software that does this? > >Sincerely, > >Steve Radlinger _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 29-Sep-1998 1:23:07-GMT,3382;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA00192 for ; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 19:23:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA10603; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 20:04:58 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 28 Sep 1998 20:03:41 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA10521; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 20:03:39 -0500 Message-ID: <3610BE8B.C9703A6A@realworld.com.au> Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 11:03:44 +0000 From: Dean Laffan X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] QuickTime, Acrobat, and Y2000 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Czajka, Mark wrote: > ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== > > I understand that if you want to distribute QT3 on CD, Apple requires a > royalty! This is not the case for QT2x. Can anyone elaborate on this? Not true. There are 3 options for distribution of QT3 on a CD OPTION 1: NO CHARGE Standard QT3 installer which when installed places a *Get QT3* movie on the host desktop (MAC OR PC). This movie extolls the virtues of the *pro* version of QT over the standard install which the client has just installed. The BIG stink Apple created when they originally released QT# was this movie launched EVERY time the user invoked Movie Player. Note that the *standard* install of QT3 includes all the extended features which are unlocked with a serial No. In addition, from time to time when you launch the standard Movie Player the user gets a pop-up screen asking if they would like to upgrade to QT3, YES or NO, whichj is nearly as bad as the original Get Movie idea. OPTION 2: $US1.00 / disc To release your clients from the *Get Movie* option you can pay a dollar per disc for a version which does not spam the desktop. HOWEVER I'm not sure whether this is still available since Apple revised the installer to run the Get Movie to a once only at install. OPTION3: QTPro $US 30.00 Bulk licenses of QT3Pro at $30 gives the user full QT capabilities. ******************************************************************** To my knowledge Apple is no longer offering distribution licenses free or otherwise for QT2.x. Also unlike previous versions of QT, Ver 3 is designed to be installed over top of 2.x. Previously and especially in Windows this would cause major conflicts, but this is OK in Ver 3. Dean Laffan _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 29-Sep-1998 2:08:03-GMT,2031;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA01130 for ; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 20:08:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA12992; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 20:48:27 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 28 Sep 1998 20:47:24 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA12929; Mon, 28 Sep 1998 20:47:22 -0500 Message-ID: <3610C8E9.BB20C78E@realworld.com.au> Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 11:48:00 +0000 From: Dean Laffan X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] QuickTime, Acrobat, and Y2000 References: <8525668D.005FE9E9.00@keybank.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Karen L Mibus wrote: > With this type of market presence and aspirations, Apple would be very wise > to make their "free software" Y2000 compliant. Otherwise, companies like > mine will look elsewhere for their movie viewers. > > --Karen Karen, You do understand that QT3 is compliant and that by the time of the Millennium the very last copy of QT2.5.1 will be nearly 2 yrs old. I don't think that's too much too ask ? Dean _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 29-Sep-1998 7:14:09-GMT,2868;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA07304 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 01:14:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA25501; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 01:54:37 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 29 Sep 1998 01:51:39 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA25384; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 01:51:37 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: aa307@pop.dial.pipex.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <01BDEAFF.96C820E0@cube293b> Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 07:54:06 +0000 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Dave Cragg Subject: Re: [PDF] Batch Import of FDF data into PDF Cc: Steve Radlinger Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== At 11:09 pm +0000 28/9/98, Max Wyss wrote: >====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== >If you don't have the /F option, but Filemaker Pro, you could set up a >database which contains the FDF file name, the base PDF file name, the >target PDF file name. It would contain a script which initiates an >AppleScript which you do create based on the data in each record. You may >need QuicKeys in order to make Exchange import the FDF (Exchange's >AppleScript support is pretty lousy ). One way to avoid QuicKeys for importing FDFs is to include in the original PDF a link that is set to import form data. You can operate the link action, delete the link, and then save to another file - all with AppleScript. This will work if you are always importing from the same FDF file. I use this approach to add custom data (usually a user name) to sets of PDF documents. Apologies to the original poster if you're not using a Mac. Regards Dave Cragg _____________________________________________ Dave Cragg The LACS Centre (Business English Training Resources) 29 Falcon Gardens (1F2), Edinburgh EH10 4AR, UK Tel/fax +44 131 466 5227 dcragg@lacscentre.co.uk http://www.lacscentre.co.uk _____________________________________________ _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 29-Sep-1998 8:47:22-GMT,2259;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA09145 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 02:47:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA28328; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 03:22:14 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 29 Sep 1998 03:16:30 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA28119; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 03:16:27 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] QuickTime, Acrobat, and Y2000 Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 08:56:05 +0100 Message-ID: <002c01bdeb81$3168c420$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <3610C8E9.BB20C78E@realworld.com.au> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== > > With this type of market presence and aspirations, Apple > would be very wise > > to make their "free software" Y2000 compliant. Otherwise, > companies like > > mine will look elsewhere for their movie viewers. > > > > --Karen > > Karen, You do understand that QT3 is compliant and that by > the time of the > Millennium the very last copy of QT2.5.1 will be nearly 2 yrs > old. I don't > think that's too much too ask ? Nearly two years old, eh? Who could have predicted when QT 2.5 was written that the year 2000 was just around the corner... Aandi _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 29-Sep-1998 13:43:17-GMT,1987;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA14510 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 07:43:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA07395; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 08:20:45 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 29 Sep 1998 08:19:53 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA07296; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 08:19:52 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: KEYCORP From: "Karen L Mibus" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <8525668E.0048B6B3.00@keybank.com> Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 09:16:44 -0400 Subject: Re: [PDF] QuickTime, Acrobat, and Y2000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Hi, Dean: You wrote: Karen, You do understand that QT3 is compliant and that by the time of the Millennium the very last copy of QT2.5.1 will be nearly 2 yrs old. I don't think that's too much too ask ? Dean I'm trying to find out if QT3 is Y2K compliant. If it is, can you tell me the source of your information? My company has already requested that we use a different product than QT and I'd like to see us use QT since my understanding is that we must use QT with Acrobat. Is this correct? --Karen _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 29-Sep-1998 13:43:19-GMT,1802;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA14512 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 07:43:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA07249; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 08:18:46 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 29 Sep 1998 08:16:54 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA07110; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 08:16:52 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: KEYCORP From: "Karen L Mibus" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <8525668E.00487749.00@keybank.com> Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 09:13:27 -0400 Subject: Re: [PDF] QuickTime, Acrobat, and Y2000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== >Also unlike previous versions of QT, Ver 3 is designed to be installed >over top of 2.x. Previously and especially in Windows this would cause >major conflicts, but this is OK in Ver 3. When I installed QuickTime Version 3 on my PC with Windows 95, it would not overwrite version 2x. I had to uninstall version 2x afterwards. --Karen _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 29-Sep-1998 16:16:13-GMT,1756;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA18144 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 10:16:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA16517; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 10:47:22 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 29 Sep 1998 10:44:08 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA16236; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 10:44:05 -0500 Message-ID: <36110216.F02BC13@pobox.com> Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 11:51:50 -0400 From: Ramon Mellado Villlarreal X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Summation and PDF References: <8525668E.0048B6B3.00@keybank.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Summation is a product for litigation support for lawyers. It handles many aspects of that business including limited management of documents of images. Has anyone succesfully integrated PDF documents in this environment? _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 29-Sep-1998 20:14:34-GMT,2276;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA24529 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 14:14:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA31598; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 14:51:36 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 29 Sep 1998 14:48:12 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA31307; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 14:48:05 -0500 Message-ID: <001601bdebe1$e9525d20$170d9fcf@default> From: "Jim and Marguerite Ripley" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] Summation and PDF Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 12:46:23 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2120.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2120.0 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== >Summation is a product for litigation support for lawyers. It handles many >aspects of that business including limited management of documents of images. >Has anyone succesfully integrated PDF documents in this environment? Never had any experience with "Summation" but I recently provided my attorney with about 500 pages of documents which had been scanned into PDF files. I provided an annotated TOC with links, bookmarks and navigation buttons. I provided these to him on a zip drive. He thought it was kewel. He especially liked the idea of not having a large stack of papers to go through and the ability to print a copy of an original document at will. _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 29-Sep-1998 20:41:42-GMT,2015;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA25333 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 14:41:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA01048; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 15:24:04 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 29 Sep 1998 15:22:38 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA00948; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 15:22:36 -0500 Message-ID: <97790B563888D111B69F0000F81F7BF84362B5@PRIORIS> From: Christine Johnson To: pdflist Subject: [PDF] color digital ads Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 15:14:50 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Hi, This is the best list out there. Everyone is great at answering questions. Here's mine! My company is looking to publish their very first CD version of our magazine and the biggest question I am getting is: How can we reproduce color ads from print to digital form? The assumption here is that the advertiser does NOT have a digital version to give us. I know that Capture only handles black and white. Any thoughts out there? If this question is a little off the regular path, I apologize. Many thanks in advance, Chris cjohnson@cpcmags.com _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 29-Sep-1998 22:15:42-GMT,2400;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA27735 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 16:15:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA06149; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 16:56:28 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 29 Sep 1998 16:54:22 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA06012; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 16:54:20 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980929180341.0083cb90@iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 18:03:41 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] color digital ads In-Reply-To: <97790B563888D111B69F0000F81F7BF84362B5@PRIORIS> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== A >This is the best list out there. Everyone is great at answering >questions. Here's mine! My company is looking to publish their very >first CD version of our magazine and the biggest question I am getting >is: How can we reproduce color ads from print to digital form? The >assumption here is that the advertiser does NOT have a digital version >to give us. > >I know that Capture only handles black and white. Any thoughts out >there? If this question is a little off the regular path, I apologize. > Assuming that you're preparing the magazine in a DPT app and would normally scan in such ads and place in the app for printing, couldn't you do the same thing in producing the PDF? Or do you need to make the text in the ads searchable as well as the regular magazine text? Steve Rindsberg/Prez RDP http://www.rdpslides.com _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 29-Sep-1998 22:35:27-GMT,2646;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA28204 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 16:35:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA07748; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 17:18:15 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 29 Sep 1998 17:17:24 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA07658; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 17:17:22 -0500 Message-ID: <6031CF804B89D111B9F00020AFD0D9A6024E89@mail.paravision.com> From: Vincent Huang To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Cc: Steve Rindsberg Subject: RE: [PDF] color digital ads Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 15:34:39 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== A >This is the best list out there. Everyone is great at answering >questions. Here's mine! My company is looking to publish their very >first CD version of our magazine and the biggest question I am getting >is: How can we reproduce color ads from print to digital form? The >assumption here is that the advertiser does NOT have a digital version >to give us. > >I know that Capture only handles black and white. Any thoughts out >there? If this question is a little off the regular path, I apologize. Adobe Capture handles full color. For even more flexible capturing, try PageGenie98 at http://www.pagegenie.com . Which is about 300% faster and much more accurate. The background preservation is also superior to Adobe Capture. A Pro version should be out in a couple of weeks. (Beta in a few days.) > Assuming that you're preparing the magazine in a DPT app and would normally scan in such ads and place in the app for printing, couldn't you do the same thing in producing the PDF? Or do you need to make the text in the ads searchable as well as the regular magazine text? _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 29-Sep-1998 22:50:06-GMT,2185;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA28476 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 16:49:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA08673; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 17:32:40 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 29 Sep 1998 17:31:31 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA08565; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 17:31:29 -0500 Message-ID: From: Duff Johnson To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] color digital ads Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 15:35:28 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Chris: > This is the best list out there. Everyone is great at answering > questions. Here's mine! My company is looking to publish their very > first CD version of our magazine and the biggest question I am getting > is: How can we reproduce color ads from print to digital form? The > assumption here is that the advertiser does NOT have a digital version > to give us. > > I know that Capture only handles black and white. Any thoughts out > there? If this question is a little off the regular path, I apologize. Capture can certainly handle color, but it must be asked nicely! To get good output with a moderate file size can be really tricky. Duff Johnson Document Solutions, Inc. _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 29-Sep-1998 23:30:45-GMT,4572;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA29383 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 17:30:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA10744; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 18:11:10 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 29 Sep 1998 18:09:43 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA10649; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 18:09:42 -0500 Message-Id: <199809292309.SAA10644@everglades.binc.net> Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 18:11:20 -0500 From: Clay McCullough Subject: Re: [PDF] color digital ads To: "pdf@lists.pdfzone.com" X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; Charset=US-ASCII X-Mailer: Bluto Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== On 9/29/98 at 3:14 PM, Cjohnson@cpcmags.com (Christine Johnson) wrote: > I know that Capture only handles black and white. Any thoughts out > there? Sure, I have lots of thoughts on this. I do color catalogs all the time. :) First, let's assume that you can't get the original application with the original artwork (quark, pagemaker... whatever). In other words, all you can get is the paper so your only option is to Scan and OCR. Summary: Scan each page. Separate the Text and Graphics by making text only files and graphics only files. Run OCR on the text files. Review and Correct the OCR. Paste in the color and greyscale graphic images. If you need colored text, use Acrobat Reviewer to color it. Detail: I would ask for three catalogs to work with. One I would use to take apart (cut, remove staples, etc) and scan. A second would be a back-up in case something bad happened to all or part of the first one. The third I would keep for OCR review and correction. I would then make (3) scans of each page. Scan #1 would be a 300(*) dpi black and white. Scan #2 would be a 300(*) dpi greyscale. Scan #3 would be 300(*) dpi color. (*) Note: You could choose to scan at higher resolutions... this would be your choice. Note also that you don't have to make three separate scans, but I prefer to work that way. The alternative would be to make just one color scan of each page, converting each one and Saving As... greyscale, and then a bitmap. Scan #1 (T:1) I would then open the black and whites in an editor such as Techsoft's PixEdit or Adobe's Photoshop and delete all instances of a graphic... leaving only the text. In my opinion, there's no reason that I know of to run OCR over graphic images unless you simply have to. Why run OCR on something it has no way of understanding?) I would also run a couple of filters, such as "Fill Holes" in PixEdit. Then, I would run Capture or TypeReader on the bitmaps, and then review and correct. Scans #2 (G:8) and #3 (C:24) I would open in an editor such as Adobe Photoshop and make individual files out of each graphic, greyscale and/or color. I would also run filters such as "Auto Levels" or "Auto Curves". After fixing and correcting the graphics, I would print them to files (pdf) using Distiller. I would then insert each graphic pdf into its proper place in the Acrobat Review file (.acd). If you need color text, I would use the Acrobat Review menu item File/Change Color to color it. I prefer doing one page at a time starting with the cover. After I get one page completely done I then scan page two and start the process again. In my opinion, things can get too complicated and out of hand if I scan two hundered pages of a catalog and attempt to work with all those files at once. Depending on the complexity of each page, I would figure 15 minutes to two hours per page time spent working. I would think that the average amount of time spent would be about 45 minutes. Hope this helps. Clay McCullough Imageplex TIF PDF OCR Document Conversion (615) 269-7806 (615) 269-9039 fax _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 29-Sep-1998 23:30:45-GMT,2911;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA29384 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 17:30:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA11012; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 18:15:08 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 29 Sep 1998 18:14:20 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA10934; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 18:14:19 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19980929191824.007b76d0@up.bresnan.net> X-Sender: fosmire@up.bresnan.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 19:18:24 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: "M. Sean Fosmire" Subject: [PDF] Re: Summation and PDF Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== I just finished a trial where about 4,200 pages of documents were archived in Acrobat format and stored on a recordable CD. The total size of the files (including some spreadsheets and deposition transcripts) was 325 MB. One major advantage of putting the docs on a CD well ahead of time was that I could leave multiple boxes of stuff at the office and just take the CD home to do the preparation. I asked my opponents if they would join in the cost of scanning the files and creating the CD, and they declined. So when the trial began, they showed up with multiple copies of loose-leaf notebooks filled with exhibits, and I had my CD. >Never had any experience with "Summation" but I recently provided my >attorney with about 500 pages of documents which had been scanned into PDF >files. I provided an annotated TOC with links, bookmarks and navigation >buttons. I provided these to him on a zip drive. > >He thought it was kewel. He especially liked the idea of not having a large >stack of papers to go through and the ability to print a copy of an original >document at will. > ====================================================== M. Sean Fosmire fosmire@up.bresnan.net Fosmire Solka & Stenton, P.C. http://www.afss.com Superior Information Services, Inc. http://www.sismich.com/home.htm ====================================================== _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 30-Sep-1998 9:27:28-GMT,2502;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA11373 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 03:27:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA02900; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 04:03:55 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 30 Sep 1998 03:59:08 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA02645; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 03:59:06 -0500 Message-ID: <36127F96.111F1DCF@realworld.com.au> Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 18:59:37 +0000 From: Dean Laffan X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] QuickTime, Acrobat, and Y2000 References: <8525668E.0048B6B3.00@keybank.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Karen L Mibus wrote: > I'm trying to find out if QT3 is Y2K compliant. If it is, can you tell me > the source of your information? My company has already requested that we > use a different product than QT and I'd like to see us use QT since my > understanding is that we must use QT with Acrobat. Is this correct? > > --Karen You can use .avi files with Acrobat, I have not been able to get a response from Adobe on whether future versions will expand movie support to MPEG which would be nice. Dov ? Gary Cosimini ? Can anyone comment. Regards QT3 complience I have mailed Apples QT guru Charles Wiltgen since I also couldn't find a statement on a list or FAQ, so as soon as I get a response I will post it here. Re your install problems; I installed on top fine and I think it was from the QT dev list that I got that info. ( i have since unsubscribed to that list) More to come Dean _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 30-Sep-1998 13:34:52-GMT,3206;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA15679 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 07:34:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA12434; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 08:10:32 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 30 Sep 1998 08:09:13 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA12300; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 08:09:12 -0500 Message-Id: <199809301309.IAA12256@everglades.binc.net> Date: 30 Sep 98 09:08:44 +0000 From: Justin Blocksom Subject: RE: [PDF] Re: Summation and PDF To: pdf X-Mailer: QuickMail Pro 1.5.2 (Mac) X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-Ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id IAA12296 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Reply to: RE: [PDF] Re: Summation and PDF Hey, thanks for sharing that. Great story! Great application! I envy your smug spirit you must've had at the trial! . Justin Blocksom Printing & Publications Corp. jblocksom@printandpub.com . >I just finished a trial where about 4,200 pages of documents were archived >in Acrobat format and stored on a recordable CD. The total size of the >files (including some spreadsheets and deposition transcripts) was 325 MB. >One major advantage of putting the docs on a CD well ahead of time was that >I could leave multiple boxes of stuff at the office and just take the CD >home to do the preparation. > >I asked my opponents if they would join in the cost of scanning the files >and creating the CD, and they declined. So when the trial began, they >showed up with multiple copies of loose-leaf notebooks filled with >exhibits, and I had my CD. > >>Never had any experience with "Summation" but I recently provided my >>attorney with about 500 pages of documents which had been scanned into PDF >>files. I provided an annotated TOC with links, bookmarks and navigation >>buttons. I provided these to him on a zip drive. >> >>He thought it was kewel. He especially liked the idea of not having a large >>stack of papers to go through and the ability to print a copy of an original >>document at will. >> > > >====================================================== >M. Sean Fosmire fosmire@up.bresnan.net >Fosmire Solka & Stenton, P.C. > http://www.afss.com >Superior Information Services, Inc. > http://www.sismich.com/home.htm _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 30-Sep-1998 13:34:53-GMT,2235;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA15681 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 07:34:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA12433; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 08:10:32 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 30 Sep 1998 08:09:10 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA12279; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 08:09:08 -0500 Message-Id: <199809301308.IAA12252@everglades.binc.net> Date: 30 Sep 98 09:08:40 +0000 From: Justin Blocksom Subject: Re: [PDF] color digital ads To: pdf X-Mailer: QuickMail Pro 1.5.2 (Mac) X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-Ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id IAA12272 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Reply to: Re: [PDF] color digital ads >If you need colored text, use Acrobat Reviewer to color it. > >I would then insert each graphic pdf into its proper place in the Acrobat Review >file (.acd). If you need color text, I would use the Acrobat Review menu item >File/Change Color to color it. > >Clay McCullough >Imageplex >TIF PDF OCR Document Conversion --- I don't understand this "Acrobat Reviewer" thing. To edit/insert (cut/paste) graphics, I have to use the Pitstop plug-in. Is there Acrobat software for page/art assembly? Please claify. . Justin Blocksom Printing & Publications Corp. jblocksom@printandpub.com _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 30-Sep-1998 14:29:22-GMT,2148;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA16788 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 08:29:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA15994; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 09:09:10 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 30 Sep 1998 09:07:52 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA15897; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 09:07:51 -0500 Message-ID: <36123B5E.B8405E2@agrisurf.com> Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 10:08:30 -0400 From: msiemens@agrisurf.com (Mark Siemens) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Custom DocInfo Fields References: <199809292154.QAA06029@everglades.binc.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== I have an application where I would like to have the end user (using Reader) be able to use and "see" custom doc info fields. The Acrobat Online help for Search says "You may see additional custom fields if the creator of the PDF document included them." I created them using Thomas Merz method of adding them in the ps file, and modifying the acrocat.ini file, but still can't seem to have them display when I search. Is this possible without writing my own plug-in? If not, how difficult is it to write this type of plug in and where do I go for information? Thanks in advance. Mark mark@agrisurf.com _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 30-Sep-1998 14:50:24-GMT,2597;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA17249 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 08:50:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA17066; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 09:29:11 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 30 Sep 1998 09:27:46 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA16954; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 09:27:44 -0500 Message-Id: <199809301427.HAA01264@dove.prod.itd.earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.0c (197) Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 07:31:32 -0800 Subject: Re: [PDF] color digital ads From: "C. Scott Miller" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== >I don't understand this "Acrobat Reviewer" thing. To edit/insert (cut/paste) graphics, I have to use the Pitstop plug-in. Is there Acrobat software for page/art assembly? Please claify. >. >Justin Blocksom >Printing & Publications Corp. >jblocksom@printandpub.com Acrobat Reviewer is a separate program included in Adobe's Acrobat Capture 2.x (Windows only) package. It receives .acd files from Capture and allows you to do a better job at finding and editing suspects than Exchange does (it highlights misspellings and all numericals for proofing). It also allows you to edit parts of the file, eliminating unwanted elements (say b&w photos) and adding other elements (like color scans). You can then save to .pdf from Reviewer. Adobe does not sell it separately. I haven't seen .acd files created in any other program. C. Scott Miller PDF R_e_s_e_a_r_c_h__C_o_m_p_a_n_i_o_n A Designer's Guide to Adobe's Portable Document Format http://www.performancegraphics.com a production of Performance Graphics miller@performancegraphics.com _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 30-Sep-1998 15:12:27-GMT,1969;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA17945 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 09:12:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA19109; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 09:52:17 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 30 Sep 1998 09:51:29 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA19008; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 09:51:28 -0500 Message-ID: <01BDEC56.DC375BC0.mastephenson@syrres.com> From: mastephenson@syrres.com (mark stephenson) To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] color digital ads Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 09:44:02 -0400 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Chris - we successfully used the infamous Capture to convert scanned color images to PDF, and I believe with OCR. We generated indexes with Catalog, and pressed several collections to CD. There is a Capture list, but there's very little traffic on it. If you need more details get in touch directly. Good luck, Mark Mark Stephenson SoftWare Engineer Syracuse Research Corporation (315) 452-8305 mastephenson@syrres.com _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 30-Sep-1998 16:04:04-GMT,1548;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA19203 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 10:03:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA18714; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 09:47:30 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 30 Sep 1998 09:46:34 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA18632; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 09:46:33 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: KEYCORP From: "Karen L Mibus" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <8525668F.0050CED2.00@keybank.com> Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 10:43:23 -0400 Subject: Re: [PDF] QuickTime, Acrobat, and Y2000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Thanks, Dean, for your help! I'll wait patiently for more information. --Karen :) _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 30-Sep-1998 16:06:12-GMT,2012;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA19280 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 10:05:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA19428; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 09:55:04 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 30 Sep 1998 09:54:13 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA19230; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 09:54:11 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980930110334.0084b9b0@iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 11:03:34 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] Re: Summation and PDF In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19980929191824.007b76d0@up.bresnan.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== > >I asked my opponents if they would join in the cost of scanning the files >and creating the CD, and they declined. So when the trial began, they >showed up with multiple copies of loose-leaf notebooks filled with >exhibits, and I had my CD. > Which, if you also ran through catalog, you could search a wee bit faster than they could thumb through their notebooks, I'll bet. Steve Rindsberg/Prez RDP http://www.rdpslides.com _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 30-Sep-1998 16:38:31-GMT,1911;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA20131 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 10:38:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA26515; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 11:07:10 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 30 Sep 1998 11:03:57 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA26276; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 11:03:56 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Marino, Kristine" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] forms Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 12:09:43 -0400 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Hi everyone, I downloaded the forms plug-in and now I am ready to make a form....how do i us Adobe Exchange to draw the form fields on the PDF file? Is there a quick explanation to this? Thanks! Regards, Kristine -------------------------------------------- Kristine Marino Technology Resource Centers, Inc. 649 North Lewis Road Limerick, PA 19468 Voice: (610) 495-3043 x215 Fax: (610) 495-3092 kmarino@techcent.com www.techcent.com _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 30-Sep-1998 17:15:58-GMT,1907;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA21214 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 11:15:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA29810; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 11:51:25 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 30 Sep 1998 11:49:09 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA29639; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 11:49:07 -0500 Message-ID: <00dd01bdec92$12f88860$170d9fcf@default> From: "Jim and Marguerite Ripley" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] forms Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 09:47:25 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2120.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2120.0 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== > >I downloaded the forms plug-in and now I am ready to make a form....how >do i us Adobe Exchange to draw the form fields on the PDF file? >Is there a quick explanation to this? Thanks! > >Regards, Kristine Click on the "forms" button on the toolbar and draw the box you want using the crosshair cursor. _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 30-Sep-1998 17:44:48-GMT,2424;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA21999 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 11:44:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA31907; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 12:26:17 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 30 Sep 1998 12:23:24 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA31754; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 12:23:22 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Marino, Kristine" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] forms Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 13:29:08 -0400 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== thanks very much! > -----Original Message----- > From: Jim and Marguerite Ripley [SMTP:jripley@ns.net] > Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 1998 12:47 PM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: Re: [PDF] forms > > > ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== > > > > >I downloaded the forms plug-in and now I am ready to make a > form....how > >do i us Adobe Exchange to draw the form fields on the PDF file? > >Is there a quick explanation to this? Thanks! > > > >Regards, Kristine > > > Click on the "forms" button on the toolbar and draw the box you want > using > the crosshair cursor. > > > _______________________________________________________ > > -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- > * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * > + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + > _______________________________________________________ > _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 30-Sep-1998 18:33:49-GMT,1679;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA23426 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 12:33:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA02369; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 13:04:19 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 30 Sep 1998 13:03:20 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA02297; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 13:03:18 -0500 Message-ID: <97790B563888D111B69F0000F81F7BF843633A@PRIORIS> From: Christine Johnson To: pdflist Subject: [PDF] color digital ads Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 12:55:27 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Thank you all for your help! To everyone one who posted on the list and everyone who wrote me personally, I am grateful. I now have enough information to leap ahead on our CDRom project. Again, my regards! Chris _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 1-Oct-1998 0:04:13-GMT,2616;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA01342 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 18:04:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA25539; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 18:29:37 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 30 Sep 1998 18:27:23 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA25376; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 18:27:20 -0500 Message-ID: <36134AF5.AC8BEC0A@realworld.com.au> Date: Thu, 01 Oct 1998 09:27:21 +0000 From: Dean Laffan X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Y2K / Quicktime etc References: <199809292309.SAA10644@everglades.binc.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Hi all I have receiveda reply from Charles Wiltgen as follows: >Can you confirm that QT3 is y2k compliant on both the Mac and W'95 ? > >Are versions of QT2.x compliant ? Yep! QuickTime movies store date and time information in a Y2K-safe format. Also, QuickTime movie playback doesn't depend on correct date and time information -- it's just metadata for humans. :^) Cheers, -- Charles Wiltgen QuickTime Evangelist Worldwide Developer Relations Apple Computer, Inc. "Don't compromise. Use QuickTime." Although Charles response is brief he seems to indicate that both 2.x and 3.x are Y2K savvy. Although remember QT is only an Architecture and needs to run on a Y2K compliant OS like Mac, ( I,m not even sure whether W'95 is ? I assume W'98 is and I have heard that NT4.0 is not and will not be, that you need to go to NT5. Can anyone on list confirm the above ? Dean _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 1-Oct-1998 2:34:08-GMT,1902;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA04375 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 20:34:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA02404; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 21:19:34 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 30 Sep 1998 21:18:45 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA02328; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 21:18:44 -0500 From: "Eugene Semetsky" To: Subject: [PDF] Excel --> PDF hyperlink preservation Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 12:19:52 +1000 Message-ID: <000201bdece1$f8cb1f20$417d11cb@es.aapl.com.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Hi All, Is there any way to preserve hyperlinks in Excel when converting those Excel files to PDF? I'm not to keen on editing PDF docs with Exchange.... PDFMaker for Word97 does it for Word - anything available for Excel? Thanks. Eugene Semetsky _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 1-Oct-1998 2:34:08-GMT,2918;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA04374 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 20:34:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA02195; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 21:15:15 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 30 Sep 1998 21:13:28 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA02044; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 21:13:26 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Sender: kfoss@pdfzone.com Message-Id: Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 21:15:27 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: jgalvan@nexus.net.mx Subject: [PDF] Omtimize PDF with Distiller Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id VAA02040 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Situation: I am generating a postscript (ps) file with Quark 3.3 to a network directory (a distiller watched folder) on a Windows NT server. The server has Distiller 3.01 running checking 4 watched folders and generating PDF files out of the PS ones. This is working perfectly well. The generated PDF files are going to be viewed trough a local Intranet. Problem: When I try to view the PDF file (using comunicator 4.04 with acrobat plugin+search) it only appears a blank page with the plugins toolbar on top (doing it trough HTTP). I have seen this before and the only solution I know is to open the same PDF file with Exchange and saving it with the optimize option (the same file name), unfortunatly I can¥t afford this solution, because the process is supposed to be done automatically. Question: Does any one know how to generate optimized PDF out of PS with Distiller 3.01 (without using excahnge)? If someone had this same problem I apreciate your help. Thanks in advance. -------------------------------------------------------------- Jose Carlos Galvan Lopez Punto3 Designer Aldama 525-2, Centro C.P. 86000 jgalvan@tres.com.mx Villahermosa, Tabasco, Mexico http://www.tres.com.mx Tel. (93)12-36-96 -------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 1-Oct-1998 2:44:33-GMT,2009;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA04611 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 20:44:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA03388; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 21:34:01 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 30 Sep 1998 21:33:06 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA03267; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 21:33:01 -0500 Message-ID: <004401bdece3$a59e7ac0$190d9fcf@default> From: "Jim and Marguerite Ripley" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] Excel --> PDF hyperlink preservation Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 19:31:20 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2120.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2120.0 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== There are plug-ins for both Excell and Word as a part of Acrobat 3.01. Installation places a tool button on both. > >Hi All, > >Is there any way to preserve hyperlinks in Excel when converting those Excel >files to PDF? I'm not to keen on editing PDF docs with Exchange.... > >PDFMaker for Word97 does it for Word - anything available for Excel? > >Thanks. > >Eugene Semetsky > _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 1-Oct-1998 3:04:33-GMT,3694;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA05016 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 21:04:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA04368; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 21:48:30 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 30 Sep 1998 21:47:37 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA04279; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 21:47:36 -0500 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19981001024728.00d9ee9c@env-sol.com> X-Sender: thiersch@env-sol.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 19:47:28 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Tom Thiersch Subject: Re: [PDF] Omtimize PDF with Distiller Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id VAA04275 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== You can run the optimization in "batches" in Exchange (instead of opening each document individually) -- does that help? There is also an OLE automation method that will let you do the entire job in batch (see the IAC reference for details.) Tom Thiersch At 09:15 PM 9/30/98 -0500, you wrote: > >====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== > >Situation: >I am generating a postscript (ps) file with Quark 3.3 to a network >directory (a distiller watched folder) on a Windows NT server. The >server has Distiller 3.01 running checking 4 watched folders and >generating PDF files out of the PS ones. This is working perfectly well. >The generated PDF files are going to be viewed trough a local Intranet. > >Problem: >When I try to view the PDF file (using comunicator 4.04 with acrobat >plugin+search) it only appears a blank page with the plugins toolbar on >top (doing it trough HTTP). I have seen this before and the only >solution I know is to open the same PDF file with Exchange and saving it >with the optimize option (the same file name), unfortunatly I can¥t >afford this solution, because the process is supposed to be done >automatically. > >Question: >Does any one know how to generate optimized PDF out of PS with Distiller >3.01 (without using excahnge)? >If someone had this same problem I apreciate your help. Thanks in >advance. > > >-------------------------------------------------------------- >Jose Carlos Galvan Lopez Punto3 >Designer Aldama 525-2, Centro C.P. 86000 >jgalvan@tres.com.mx Villahermosa, Tabasco, Mexico >http://www.tres.com.mx Tel. (93)12-36-96 >-------------------------------------------------------------- > >_______________________________________________________ > >-> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- >* http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * >+ Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + >_______________________________________________________ > > > _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 1-Oct-1998 3:10:07-GMT,3018;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA05127 for ; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 21:10:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA05031; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 21:58:47 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 30 Sep 1998 21:57:51 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA04958; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 21:57:50 -0500 From: "Eugene Semetsky" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Excel --> PDF hyperlink preservation Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 12:58:48 +1000 Message-ID: <000801bdece7$69aba8e0$417d11cb@es.aapl.com.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <004401bdece3$a59e7ac0$190d9fcf@default> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Yes the Acrobat installation does put tool buttons in Word and Excel but hyperlinks in Excel do not convert to hyperlinks in PDF. I'm looking for a way to preserve those hyperlinks when converting Excel files to PDF. Thanks Eugene Semetsky > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com [mailto:owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com]On > Behalf Of Jim and Marguerite Ripley > Sent: Thursday, 1 October 1998 12:31 > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: Re: [PDF] Excel --> PDF hyperlink preservation > > > > ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== > > There are plug-ins for both Excell and Word as a part of Acrobat 3.01. > Installation places a tool button on both. > > > > >Hi All, > > > >Is there any way to preserve hyperlinks in Excel when converting those > Excel > >files to PDF? I'm not to keen on editing PDF docs with Exchange.... > > > >PDFMaker for Word97 does it for Word - anything available for Excel? > > > >Thanks. > > > >Eugene Semetsky > > > > > > _______________________________________________________ > > -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- > * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * > + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + > _______________________________________________________ > > > _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 1-Oct-1998 8:01:41-GMT,2558;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA11489 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 02:01:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA18313; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 02:40:48 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 1 Oct 1998 02:39:16 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA18202; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 02:39:14 -0500 From: "David Cornwell" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Excel --> PDF hyperlink preservation Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 08:43:11 +0100 Message-ID: <000201bded0f$238bd1a0$0441a8c0@davec.docctrl.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-Reply-To: <000201bdece1$f8cb1f20$417d11cb@es.aapl.com.au> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== > Is there any way to preserve hyperlinks in Excel when converting > those Excel > files to PDF? I'm not to keen on editing PDF docs with Exchange.... > > PDFMaker for Word97 does it for Word - anything available for Excel? Eugene Not to my knowledge. We looked at including this functionality in our Local Render product but came up against a number of technical challenges. As this started to adversely effect timescales we pulled the functionality. Its still on the list, not imminent and would involve compromises. Regards drc --- David Cornwell, Director - Business Development Computerised Document Control Ltd PO Box 5, Chepstow, Monmouthshire, NP6 6YU, United Kingdom Tel: + 44 (0) 1291 635 403 (direct) ; USA: 1-888-240-1752 Fax: + 44 (0) 1291 623 902 www.docctrl.com Forging the link between Document Systems and Acrobat > > _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 1-Oct-1998 11:33:47-GMT,1951;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA15564 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 05:33:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA26432; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 05:59:16 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 1 Oct 1998 05:54:06 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA26129; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 05:54:03 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Omtimize PDF with Distiller Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 11:34:32 +0100 Message-ID: <001001bded29$8a77f000$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== > Does any one know how to generate optimized PDF out of PS > with Distiller > 3.01 (without using excahnge)? There is no way to do this. So far as I know Exchange is the only tool to be able to optimize PDF files. You can automate it with OLE, I think. Aandi _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 1-Oct-1998 12:56:49-GMT,2027;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA17072 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 06:56:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA31043; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 07:35:02 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 1 Oct 1998 07:34:14 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA30978; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 07:34:13 -0500 Message-ID: <01BDED16.DA629880.mastephenson@syrres.com> From: mastephenson@syrres.com (mark stephenson) To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] forms Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 08:38:23 -0400 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Kris, Yes - relatively easy, and no doubt seven others will reply too. You should have a 'forms tool' on the toolbar. click it, and then simply draw a rectangle on your form with the mouse to create a field. you should then get the forms dialog which will let you specify all the properties of the field - and there are quite a few choices! get in touch directly if you need more Mark Mark Stephenson SoftWare Engineer Syracuse Research Corporation (315) 452-8305 mastephenson@syrres.com _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 1-Oct-1998 12:57:37-GMT,2863;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA17102 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 06:57:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA30790; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 07:31:09 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 1 Oct 1998 07:29:59 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA30697; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 07:29:58 -0500 Message-ID: <01BDED16.416F0460.mastephenson@syrres.com> From: mastephenson@syrres.com (mark stephenson) To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Custom DocInfo Fields Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 08:34:05 -0400 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Mark, You may write your own plug-in (if you're programmatically inclined), get someone else to do it for you, or buy one. I know of at least one outfit who has just such a plug-in for sale. The URL: http://www.mosarca.com/bva-myfra/ABVA.HTM a couple plug-ins you may be interested in and info: Prices are: PrivatIn US$1500 for one licence. PrivSrch/PrivInfo US$150 for one licence. InfoIn/Out US$290 for one licence. Please Add 4.5% for money exchange. Sorry, we have no price list because price depends on the plug-in complexity, the application (station or CD) and quantity. Best regards. Jean-Pierre Blanger ********************************************************************* BVA MYFRA - 83 Ave Aristide Briand - 92120 MONTROUGE - FRANCE Phone: 33 1 46 57 03 13 - Fax: 33 1 46 57 04 24 you said: I created them using Thomas Merz method of adding them in the ps file, and modifying the acrocat.ini file, but still can't seem to have them display when I search. Is this possible without writing my own plug-in? If not, how difficult is it to write this type of plug in and where do I go for information? Thanks in advance. regards, Mark Mark Stephenson SoftWare Engineer Syracuse Research Corporation (315) 452-8305 mastephenson@syrres.com _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 1-Oct-1998 13:36:25-GMT,1805;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA17951 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 07:36:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA00915; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 08:16:03 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 1 Oct 1998 08:15:03 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA00811; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 08:15:00 -0500 Message-ID: <009501bded3d$54e93700$190d9fcf@default> From: "Jim and Marguerite Ripley" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] forms tools Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 06:13:15 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2120.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2120.0 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== I found that the Acrobat CIB (Classroom In A Book) from Adobe quite helpful on the basics of Acrobat including the forms plug-in. It can be purchased from several on line booksellers including amazon.com. _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 1-Oct-1998 13:36:59-GMT,2340;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA17967 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 07:36:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA01448; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 08:24:30 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 1 Oct 1998 08:23:40 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA01374; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 08:23:38 -0500 From: "David Cornwell" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Optimise PDF with Distiller Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 14:27:36 +0100 Message-ID: <002801bded3f$412c8080$0441a8c0@davec.docctrl.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2120.0 In-Reply-To: <001001bded29$8a77f000$0101c6c0@gateway> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== > Does any one know how to generate optimized PDF out of PS > > with Distiller > > 3.01 (without using excahnge)? Our Local Render product will automatically optionally optimise PDFs created through Distiller. It has a complete Command Line Interface and therefore may be made programatic. See www.docctrl.com for more details. drc --- David Cornwell, Director - Business Development Computerised Document Control Ltd PO Box 5, Chepstow, Monmouthshire, NP6 6YU, United Kingdom Tel: + 44 (0) 1291 635 403 (direct) ; USA: 1-888-240-1752 Fax: + 44 (0) 1291 623 902 www.docctrl.com Forging the link between Document Systems and Acrobat _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 1-Oct-1998 13:48:53-GMT,2251;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA18211 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 07:48:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA02292; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 08:35:01 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 1 Oct 1998 08:33:37 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA02138; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 08:33:35 -0500 Message-Id: <199810011333.GAA23929@stork.prod.itd.earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.0c (197) Date: Thu, 01 Oct 1998 06:30:34 -0800 Subject: [PDF] FrameMaker Master Indexes From: "C. Scott Miller" To: PDF Lists Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Here's one for the group... I have a client with a set of FrameMaker documents. Each set has 10 books in it. Each book has 8 chapters, a TOC, and an Index. It is easy to make a bookmarked and hyperlinked PDF of each book. And I know it is possible to make a master FrameMaker index of the 10 FrameMaker books fairly easily (38 pages). The question is - is there any way to make a PDF of the master index that hyperlinks to the 10 books automatically? Thanks, C. Scott Miller PDF R_e_s_e_a_r_c_h__C_o_m_p_a_n_i_o_n A Designer's Guide to Adobe's Portable Document Format http://www.performancegraphics.com a production of Performance Graphics miller@performancegraphics.com _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 1-Oct-1998 13:57:16-GMT,2041;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA18388 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 07:57:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA03035; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 08:44:29 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 1 Oct 1998 08:43:27 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA02946; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 08:43:26 -0500 Message-ID: <31721FDF99E8D011A92E0080C8588A1F41F0B6@POST> From: Andriollo Mario To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Problem: Accessing hyperlinked pdfs under Windows NT Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 15:42:50 +0100 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== We have trouble opening hyperlinked pdfs from browsers on Windows NT machines - The slashes in the paths (URLs) are changed into backslashes, which corrupts the URLs and makes the files inaccesible. We are running Windows NT servers and there is no problem accessing these files under Windows 95 and Internet Explorer 3 and 4. Does this problem arise from server or from client settings or is there any other explanation (and good solution!) for this strange phenomenon? Thanks in advance Mario Andriollo _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 1-Oct-1998 14:09:03-GMT,2411;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA18673 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 08:08:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA03330; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 08:47:23 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 1 Oct 1998 08:46:27 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA03170; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 08:46:24 -0500 From: "David Cornwell" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] FrameMaker Master Indexes Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 14:50:21 +0100 Message-ID: <003801bded42$6eb7b6c0$0441a8c0@davec.docctrl.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2120.0 In-Reply-To: <199810011333.GAA23929@stork.prod.itd.earthlink.net> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== > It is easy to make a bookmarked and hyperlinked PDF of each book. > And I know > it is possible to make a master FrameMaker index of the 10 > FrameMaker books > fairly easily (38 pages). The question is - is there any way to make a PDF > of the master index that hyperlinks to the 10 books automatically? The various PDFfusion Editions will do this. See www.docctrl.com for more details. drc --- David Cornwell, Director - Business Development Computerised Document Control Ltd PO Box 5, Chepstow, Monmouthshire, NP6 6YU, United Kingdom Tel: + 44 (0) 1291 635 403 (direct) ; USA: 1-888-240-1752 Fax: + 44 (0) 1291 623 902 www.docctrl.com Forging the link between Document Systems and Acrobat > _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 1-Oct-1998 14:12:10-GMT,3766;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA18787 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 08:11:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA04305; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 08:58:30 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 1 Oct 1998 08:57:32 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA04165; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 08:57:31 -0500 From: jmcginn@dtedi.wpafb.af.mil (John McGinn) Message-Id: <199810011402.KAA05489@dtedi> Subject: [PDF] Txt -> PS -> PDF on the fly... To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 10:02:21 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== My company has a large database for our client. We need to run reports on that database and allow multiple users see them. Currently all the reports are in text, most of them landscape 132 columns. Viewing these reports through a Web Browser is fine, but when they go to print them, they don't come out perfectly because of margin situations. We decided to move to PDF so that the user would have one-button-printing. We are using enscript to go from TXT->PS, and then ghostscript to go from PS->PDF. This all works fine on command line. What we would like to do, is store the Text files in a zip file, and when a user submits a form, we unzip the text file they request, do the conversion to PDF via PS, and then send the PDF directly to the user. Our problem is in trying to stream the PDF file back to the user. My CGI script, written in CShell script, returns "Content-type: application/pdf\n\n", and then the output of the ghostscript should be going directly to standard output, aka the web browser. My browser (IE4.0/AcrobatReader3.01) does not seem to retrieve it properly. Currently, we have an intermediate step, where we create the PDF file, and put it in a Web 'static' directory and create an HTML link from the CGI script, that has one link, and that link to the PDF file created in the 'static' directory. That works fine, but we'd rather get rid of that intermediate step. We are running Apache Web Server on our machine. I don't think we want byteserver, because we want the entire PDF file sent back to the user. (Unless I've thoroughly misunderstood what byteserver does, ie, it returns pages from the PDF on demand?) Can anyone give me any insight on this problem? Thanks in advance, John McGinn (If I figure out the problem in the meantime, I will post that information.) --------------------+----------------------------------------------------- John McGinn | "Imagination, Imagination, a dream can be a dream Wang Govt Service | come true with just that spark in me and you!" Fairborn, Ohio | -Dreamfinder and Figment, _Journey_into_Imagination_ +----------------------------------------------------- | Email: jmcginn@dtedi.wpafb.af.mil --------------------+----------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 1-Oct-1998 15:47:47-GMT,3569;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA21266 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 09:47:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA09781; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 10:19:02 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 1 Oct 1998 10:17:14 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA09681; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 10:17:12 -0500 From: Petr.Fexa@WIEN.Materna.DE Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 17:16:09 +0200 Alternate-Recipient: Allowed Message-ID: To: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com, pdf@lists.pdfzone.com In-Reply-To: <199810011402.KAA05489@dtedi> Subject: RE: [PDF] Txt -> PS -> PDF on the fly... Importance: Low X-Mailer: DX-MAIL V2.21 (DX-MAIL X.400/MIME-Switch V2.02) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="0ZxbfxehZuA4eIS0kh3rg4oUJaBv3yXL" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== --0ZxbfxehZuA4eIS0kh3rg4oUJaBv3yXL Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable > >=3D=3D=3D=3D> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <= =3D=3D=3D=3D > > My company has a large database for our client. We need to run reports >on that database and allow multiple users see them. = > > . . . > > Our problem is in trying to stream the PDF file back to the user. My CG= I = >script, written in CShell script, returns "Content-type: application/pdf\n= \n", > >and then the output of the ghostscript should be going directly to standar= d >output, aka the web browser. My browser (IE4.0/AcrobatReader3.01) does >not seem to retrieve it properly. = > > Currently, we have an intermediate step, where we create the PDF file, = >and put it in a Web 'static' directory and create an HTML link from the CG= I = >script, that has one link, and that link to the PDF file created in the = >'static' directory. That works fine, but we'd rather get rid of that = >intermediate step. = > > We are running Apache Web Server on our machine. I don't think we want = >byteserver, because we want the entire PDF file sent back to the user. = >(Unless I've thoroughly misunderstood what byteserver does, ie, it returns= = >pages from the PDF on demand?) = > My answer may be completely irrelevant, but I'll try: I had (as I beleive) a similar problem. The solution was that with Apache there is a configuration file (whose name I forgot) somewhere where all applicable content-types must be listed, AND ALSO application/pdf which I had to add because obviously it is not there by default. petr.fexa@materna.de --0ZxbfxehZuA4eIS0kh3rg4oUJaBv3yXL Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable IDENTIFIKATIONSANGABEN: a21104a.txt IA5 DX-MAIL X.400 User Agent= --0ZxbfxehZuA4eIS0kh3rg4oUJaBv3yXL-- _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 1-Oct-1998 17:57:17-GMT,2530;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA24738 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 11:57:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA19765; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 12:37:11 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 1 Oct 1998 12:36:14 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA19685; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 12:36:12 -0500 Message-Id: <199810011736.NAA25431@camel14.mindspring.com> X-Sender: nighthawk1@pop.mindspring.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.2 Date: Thu, 01 Oct 1998 13:34:47 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Pam Owen Subject: [PDF] Font for Logo Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Hi, gang! I'm trying to redesign my company logo, which was originally done (by my partner) with a font that is not available in electronic form, and I could use some help. I'm looking for a font that is trim, not too modern or archaic, has a "k" with the lower descender of the foot (the lower oblique line) going below the baseline, and imparts a sense of flight. Probably a serif would be better than a sans serif, but I'm open to suggestions. The "k" criterion is the hardest to meet, but really think having the descender this way does impart a sense of flight. I've looked through tons of font books with no success. If you think of a font that meets all or most of my criteria, please e-mail me privately instead of posting to the list, as I have trouble keeping up with mail on all my lists. If you know where I can get the font, I'd appreciate hearing that, too. TIA. Pam Owen Nighthawk Communications Reston, Virginia, USA E-mail: Nighthawk1@mindspring.com "Life is like Sanskrit read to a pony" - Lou Reed _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 1-Oct-1998 17:58:30-GMT,2758;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA24792 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 11:58:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA19046; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 12:27:40 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 1 Oct 1998 12:26:05 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA18889; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 12:26:03 -0500 From: john.shardalow@cica.ca X-Lotus-FromDomain: CICA To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-Id: <98Oct1.132047edt.49608@cicahost.cica.ca> Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 13:29:20 -0400 Subject: [PDF] Acrobat files not opening from the Web... SOMETIMES! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== We use .PDF documents extensively on our web site. I have had numerous emails and phone calls saying such-and-such file comes up blank when the visitor is trying to open it up via the web. Unfortunately, I've never been able to recreate the problem myself either at work or at home -- they always open up for me. Finally, I could see a couple of files 'not' opening up for someone else in the office who is running the same browser as myself. The URLs are... http://www.cica.ca/new/ss/pdf/e_cassets.pdf http://www.cica.ca/new/ss/pdf/e_municipal.pdf ...but the visitor to our site would normally get there by clicking on... http://www.cica.ca/new ...then clicking on 'Studies & Standards' ...then clicking on 'Newsletters & Publications' ...then clicking on either 'Capital Assets' or 'An Illustrative Guide to Municipal Accounting and Financial Reporting' (I know... not the most glamorous of subjects!) Has anyone else come across this problem of files sometimes opening and sometimes not. I'm not sure if it's a browser problem or in the way people are making the files within our company. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated... thanks in advance. John Shardalow CICA / ICCA webmaster@cica.ca -- http://www.cica.ca Netscape AIM Instant Messenger --> CICA Web _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 1-Oct-1998 18:04:10-GMT,3994;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA24968 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 12:04:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA20858; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 12:47:54 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 1 Oct 1998 12:46:55 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA20729; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 12:46:53 -0500 Message-ID: <002d01bded62$72cc2000$b2c314d1@Prometheus.main> From: "Ian Lurie" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] Acrobat files not opening from the Web... SOMETIMES! Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 10:37:28 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== John, I'm not sure, but the blank page behavior might indicate that your users don't have the correct plug-in or OCX installed. Do you know which web browser they're using? Ian Lurie The Written Word, Inc. Information Design Online, On Paper, and On the Web email: ian@writtenword.com web: www.writtenword.com "Vox audita perit, litera scripta manet" The spoken word perishes, the written word remains -----Original Message----- From: john.shardalow@cica.ca To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: Thursday, October 01, 1998 10:38 AM Subject: [PDF] Acrobat files not opening from the Web... SOMETIMES! > >====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== > >We use .PDF documents extensively on our web site. I have had numerous >emails and phone calls saying such-and-such file comes up blank when the >visitor is trying to open it up via the web. Unfortunately, I've never been >able to recreate the problem myself either at work or at home -- they >always open up for me. Finally, I could see a couple of files 'not' opening >up for someone else in the office who is running the same browser as >myself. The URLs are... > >http://www.cica.ca/new/ss/pdf/e_cassets.pdf >http://www.cica.ca/new/ss/pdf/e_municipal.pdf > >...but the visitor to our site would normally get there by clicking on... > >http://www.cica.ca/new >...then clicking on 'Studies & Standards' >...then clicking on 'Newsletters & Publications' >...then clicking on either 'Capital Assets' or 'An Illustrative Guide to >Municipal Accounting and Financial Reporting' > >(I know... not the most glamorous of subjects!) > >Has anyone else come across this problem of files sometimes opening and >sometimes not. I'm not sure if it's a browser problem or in the way people >are making the files within our company. > >Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated... thanks in advance. > > John Shardalow > CICA / ICCA > webmaster@cica.ca -- http://www.cica.ca > Netscape AIM Instant Messenger --> CICA Web > > > > >_______________________________________________________ > >-> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- >* http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * >+ Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + >_______________________________________________________ > > > _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 1-Oct-1998 18:09:15-GMT,2520;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA25126 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 12:09:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA21213; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 12:51:34 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 1 Oct 1998 12:50:44 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA21142; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 12:50:43 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Thu, 01 Oct 1998 12:51:03 -0500 From: "Rob Domaschuk" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Acrobat files not opening from the Web... SOMETIMES! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id MAA21138 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== ** High Priority ** John, I managed to read your pdf files without any difficulty. My two cents buys the following guess: a) Your pdf files are being distilled as 3.0 compatibe only, and b) Those people who can't read them are still using Reader 2.1 I'd offer another guess, but since I am Canadian, that $0.02 US actually cost me $23.44 CDN and I can't afford more! Rob Domaschuk Technical Writer, Boise Cascade Office Products 630.773.7101 (Direct) 630.773.6455 (Fax) "Life is a tale told by an idiot - full of sound and fury, signifying nothing" - William Shakespeare >>> 10/01 12:29 PM >>> ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== We use .PDF documents extensively on our web site. I have had numerous emails and phone calls saying such-and-such file comes up blank when the visitor is trying to open it up via the web. _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 1-Oct-1998 18:18:09-GMT,1897;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA25365 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 12:18:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA21636; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 12:57:51 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 1 Oct 1998 12:56:54 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA21546; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 12:56:52 -0500 Message-ID: From: Nathan Keller To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] WYSIWYG Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 10:57:03 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Hi, Does anyone use software which allows wysiwyg viewing of the fonts in your system from a control panel or something so that you can see what the font looks like before you use it? Does Adobe Type Manager do this? Read the product info and it does not explicitly say that it does this. Sincerely, Nathan Keller Technical Support Career Guidance Foundation nathank@cgf.org (800) 854-2670 http://www.collegesource.org _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 1-Oct-1998 18:33:02-GMT,2743;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA25764 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 12:32:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA23378; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 13:19:02 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 1 Oct 1998 13:18:12 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA23311; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 13:18:07 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Thu, 01 Oct 1998 13:18:14 -0500 From: "Rob Domaschuk" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] WYSIWYG Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id NAA23300 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== ** High Priority ** ATM certainly does. Just open Type Manager and double click the font you wish to view. Rob Domaschuk Technical Writer, Boise Cascade Office Products 630.773.7101 (Direct) 630.773.6455 (Fax) "Life is a tale told by an idiot - full of sound and fury, signifying nothing" - William Shakespeare >>> Nathan Keller 10/01 12:57 PM >>> ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Hi, Does anyone use software which allows wysiwyg viewing of the fonts in your system from a control panel or something so that you can see what the font looks like before you use it? Does Adobe Type Manager do this? Read the product info and it does not explicitly say that it does this. Sincerely, Nathan Keller Technical Support Career Guidance Foundation nathank@cgf.org (800) 854-2670 http://www.collegesource.org _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 1-Oct-1998 18:33:28-GMT,4074;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA25791 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 12:33:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA23189; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 13:16:58 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 1 Oct 1998 13:15:58 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA23132; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 13:15:56 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Hiatt, Mike" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Acrobat files not opening from the Web... SOMETIMES! Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 13:20:08 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== The problem could be file size and browser version. We discovered - right before a demo of our CD-ROM documentation package to our users - that IE 4.0 and Netscape 4.0 with the Reader used as a plug-in will not open PDF files larger than 4MB. Reader will open inside the browser, but the PDF never appears. If they change to using Reader as a helper and not a plug-in, that will solve the problem. BTW, this is a known bug as buried deep in both IE and Netscape's documentation this is acknowledged. Mike Hiatt Sr. Tech Writer Intecom Inc. Dallas, TX > -----Original Message----- > From: john.shardalow@cica.ca [SMTP:john.shardalow@cica.ca] > Sent: Thursday, October 01, 1998 12:29 PM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: [PDF] Acrobat files not opening from the Web... SOMETIMES! > > > ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== > > We use .PDF documents extensively on our web site. I have had numerous > emails and phone calls saying such-and-such file comes up blank when the > visitor is trying to open it up via the web. Unfortunately, I've never > been > able to recreate the problem myself either at work or at home -- they > always open up for me. Finally, I could see a couple of files 'not' > opening > up for someone else in the office who is running the same browser as > myself. The URLs are... > > http://www.cica.ca/new/ss/pdf/e_cassets.pdf > http://www.cica.ca/new/ss/pdf/e_municipal.pdf > > ...but the visitor to our site would normally get there by clicking on... > > http://www.cica.ca/new > ...then clicking on 'Studies & Standards' > ...then clicking on 'Newsletters & Publications' > ...then clicking on either 'Capital Assets' or 'An Illustrative Guide to > Municipal Accounting and Financial Reporting' > > (I know... not the most glamorous of subjects!) > > Has anyone else come across this problem of files sometimes opening and > sometimes not. I'm not sure if it's a browser problem or in the way people > are making the files within our company. > > Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated... thanks in advance. > > John Shardalow > CICA / ICCA > webmaster@cica.ca -- http://www.cica.ca > Netscape AIM Instant Messenger --> CICA Web > > > > > _______________________________________________________ > > -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- > * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * > + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + > _______________________________________________________ > _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 1-Oct-1998 18:45:09-GMT,1566;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA26097 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 12:45:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA24192; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 13:28:29 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 1 Oct 1998 13:27:18 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA24082; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 13:27:15 -0500 From: Sboard0599@aol.com Message-ID: <748f3469.3613c952@aol.com> Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 14:26:26 EDT To: Nighthawk1@mindspring.com, owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com, pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [PDF] Font for Logo Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Mac sub 84 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Why dont you scan it in and use Illustrator to redraw it. _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 1-Oct-1998 19:05:00-GMT,3036;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA26598 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 13:04:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA25603; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 13:44:50 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 1 Oct 1998 13:43:55 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA25515; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 13:43:52 -0500 Message-ID: <001f01bded6b$5866d620$3b48bacd@dale.entevo.com> From: "Dale Gardner" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] WYSIWYG Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 14:43:11 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== In Windows NT (I think 95 has similar capabilities), there is a Font application in the control panel that will show you fonts (system and TrueType) at various sizes. Not very robust, but it will do in a pinch. For something more useful, you might want to hit one of the shareware sites -- ZDNet is my favorite. There are many apps that will provide the functionality you're looking for -- sorry I can't recommend a specific tool. Dale Gardner -----Original Message----- From: Nathan Keller To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: Thursday, October 01, 1998 2:10 PM Subject: [PDF] WYSIWYG > >====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== > >Hi, > >Does anyone use software which allows wysiwyg viewing of the fonts in your >system from a control panel or something so that you can see what the font >looks like before you use it? Does Adobe Type Manager do this? Read the >product info and it does not explicitly say that it does this. > >Sincerely, > >Nathan Keller >Technical Support >Career Guidance Foundation >nathank@cgf.org >(800) 854-2670 >http://www.collegesource.org > > > >_______________________________________________________ > >-> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- >* http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * >+ Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + >_______________________________________________________ > > > _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 1-Oct-1998 19:20:20-GMT,2050;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA26973 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 13:20:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA27039; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 14:03:31 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 1 Oct 1998 14:02:24 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA26956; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 14:02:23 -0500 Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 15:02:17 -0400 (EDT) From: Robert Baker Jr To: pdflist Subject: [PDF] Installation Scripts Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== I'm looking for info. regarding Windows 95 installation scripts that would automatically install Acrobat Reader, set a developer defined document as default and create an icon and program group. Is this a really difficult programming task? Are examples available somewhere that could be modified case by case? I have some programming expierience, but have never written scripts. I want to distribute demo CDROMS that have the installation routine automated. Robert Baker VP, Digital Services Cini-Little International, Inc. Consultants in Foodservice and Hospitality _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 1-Oct-1998 19:59:22-GMT,1917;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA27980 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 13:59:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA29810; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 14:40:54 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 1 Oct 1998 14:40:01 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA29684; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 14:40:00 -0500 Message-Id: <199810011939.OAA29679@everglades.binc.net> Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 14:41:15 -0500 From: Clay McCullough Subject: Re: [PDF] WYSIWYG To: "pdf@lists.pdfzone.com" X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; Charset=US-ASCII X-Mailer: Bluto Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== On 10/1/98 at 10:57 AM, NATHANK@CGF.ORG (Nathan Keller) wrote: > Does Adobe Type Manager do this? Yes, ATM does this. There are also lots of type utilities sharware etc available for download at places like www.download.com Another thing you can do is make a pdf of all the fonts in your system. I made a pdf like that and find it very useful. Clay McCullough www.imageplex.com TIF PDF OCR Document Conversion (615) 269-7806 (615) 269-9039 fax _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 1-Oct-1998 19:59:49-GMT,5106;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA27988 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 13:59:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA29807; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 14:40:47 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 1 Oct 1998 14:39:45 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA29643; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 14:39:43 -0500 Message-ID: <00EF773582D6D111939D00A0C9A92F6401DBD496@il0015exch003u.ih.lucent.com> From: "Farrell, Kevin (Kevin)" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] Acrobat files not opening from the Web... SOMETIMES! Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 14:38:53 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Thanks for the info. But...any advice on HOW to change Reader from a plug-in to a helper? _____________________________________ Kevin Farrell Lucent Technologies Electronic Media Networked Services (EMNS) voice: 630.224.6890 email: mailto:kfarrell@lucent.com pager: 630.680.6367 text page: http://paging.acswireless.com/send.html (use pager number 630.680.6367) _____________________________________ -----Original Message----- From: Hiatt, Mike [mailto:MHiatt@obiwan.Intecom.com] Sent: Thursday, October 01, 1998 1:20 PM To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' Subject: RE: [PDF] Acrobat files not opening from the Web... SOMETIMES! ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== The problem could be file size and browser version. We discovered - right before a demo of our CD-ROM documentation package to our users - that IE 4.0 and Netscape 4.0 with the Reader used as a plug-in will not open PDF files larger than 4MB. Reader will open inside the browser, but the PDF never appears. If they change to using Reader as a helper and not a plug-in, that will solve the problem. BTW, this is a known bug as buried deep in both IE and Netscape's documentation this is acknowledged. Mike Hiatt Sr. Tech Writer Intecom Inc. Dallas, TX > -----Original Message----- > From: john.shardalow@cica.ca [SMTP:john.shardalow@cica.ca] > Sent: Thursday, October 01, 1998 12:29 PM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: [PDF] Acrobat files not opening from the Web... SOMETIMES! > > > ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== > > We use .PDF documents extensively on our web site. I have had numerous > emails and phone calls saying such-and-such file comes up blank when the > visitor is trying to open it up via the web. Unfortunately, I've never > been > able to recreate the problem myself either at work or at home -- they > always open up for me. Finally, I could see a couple of files 'not' > opening > up for someone else in the office who is running the same browser as > myself. The URLs are... > > http://www.cica.ca/new/ss/pdf/e_cassets.pdf > http://www.cica.ca/new/ss/pdf/e_municipal.pdf > > ...but the visitor to our site would normally get there by clicking on... > > http://www.cica.ca/new > ...then clicking on 'Studies & Standards' > ...then clicking on 'Newsletters & Publications' > ...then clicking on either 'Capital Assets' or 'An Illustrative Guide to > Municipal Accounting and Financial Reporting' > > (I know... not the most glamorous of subjects!) > > Has anyone else come across this problem of files sometimes opening and > sometimes not. I'm not sure if it's a browser problem or in the way people > are making the files within our company. > > Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated... thanks in advance. > > John Shardalow > CICA / ICCA > webmaster@cica.ca -- http://www.cica.ca > Netscape AIM Instant Messenger --> CICA Web > > > > > _______________________________________________________ > > -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- > * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * > + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + > _______________________________________________________ > _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 1-Oct-1998 20:00:03-GMT,2481;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA28011 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 13:59:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA30037; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 14:43:38 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 1 Oct 1998 14:42:21 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA29909; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 14:42:20 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Installation Scripts Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 20:33:46 +0100 Message-ID: <001a01bded73$57066220$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== You can automate the DECISION to install Reader, but your options are limited. In particular you must not attempt to bypass the prompts and license agreement that goes with installing Reader, so you cannot have a CDROM which simply installs Reader (etc.) with no intervention. Aandi > > I'm looking for info. regarding Windows 95 installation > scripts that would > automatically install Acrobat Reader, set a developer defined > document as > default and create an icon and program group. Is this a > really difficult > programming task? Are examples available somewhere that could be > modified case by case? I have some programming expierience, > but have never > written scripts. > > I want to distribute demo CDROMS that have the installation routine > automated. _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 1-Oct-1998 20:00:43-GMT,1784;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA28043 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 14:00:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA29355; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 14:36:15 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 1 Oct 1998 14:35:22 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA29282; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 14:35:19 -0500 Message-Id: <199810011935.OAA29268@everglades.binc.net> Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 14:36:54 -0500 From: Clay McCullough Subject: Re: [PDF] Font for Logo To: "pdf@lists.pdfzone.com" X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; Charset=US-ASCII X-Mailer: Bluto Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== On 10/1/98 at 1:34 PM, Nighthawk1@mindspring.com (Pam Owen) wrote: > If you know where I can > get the font, I'd appreciate hearing that, too. TIA. Check out... http://www.adobe.com/type/browser/main.html Clay McCullough www.imageplex.com TIF PDF OCR Document Conversion (615) 269-7806 (615) 269-9039 fax _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 1-Oct-1998 20:00:48-GMT,3071;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA28048 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 14:00:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA29321; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 14:35:37 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 1 Oct 1998 14:34:10 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA29162; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 14:34:08 -0500 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19981001192819.00d53714@env-sol.com> X-Sender: thiersch@env-sol.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 01 Oct 1998 12:28:19 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Tom Thiersch Subject: Re: [PDF] Installation Scripts Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Robert, All of what you want to do can be handled by the free ABCPY installation script that's part of the standard (Note: mandatory) Acrobat Reader install routine. Refer to the ABCPYDOC.INI file that's included in the Acrobat Reader setup for details; this is written primarily for people who are somewhat familiar with InstallShield, but it can be used by anyone who takes the time to really work at it. A lot of trial-and-error time will be needed before you get right, but it's no more complex than doing the sort same thing with other installer products (such as InstallShield, Winstall, etc.) The best part is that there's no additional product to buy, learn, and integrate with Adobe's installer. i.e., The installation of Acrobat Reader plus your icon/shortcut can all be done at one time, with one script. Good luck. Tom Thiersch At 03:02 PM 10/1/98 -0400, you wrote: > >====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== > > >I'm looking for info. regarding Windows 95 installation scripts that would >automatically install Acrobat Reader, set a developer defined document as >default and create an icon and program group. Is this a really difficult >programming task? Are examples available somewhere that could be >modified case by case? I have some programming expierience, but have never >written scripts. > >I want to distribute demo CDROMS that have the installation routine >automated. > > > >Robert Baker > VP, Digital Services > Cini-Little International, Inc. > Consultants in Foodservice and Hospitality > > _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 1-Oct-1998 20:35:13-GMT,2963;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA28996 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 14:35:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA32429; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 15:12:30 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 1 Oct 1998 15:11:10 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA32323; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 15:11:07 -0500 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19981001201017.00d9ab14@env-sol.com> X-Sender: thiersch@env-sol.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 01 Oct 1998 13:10:17 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Tom Thiersch Subject: RE: [PDF] Installation Scripts Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== re: "you cannot have a CDROM which simply installs Reader (etc.) with no intervention." According to the instructions in the ABCPYDOC.INI file for creating a "silent" installation, this is both possible and supported/allowed by Adobe. Tom Thiersch At 08:33 PM 10/1/98 +0100, you wrote: > >====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== > >You can automate the DECISION to install Reader, but your >options are limited. In particular you must not attempt to >bypass the prompts and license agreement that goes with >installing Reader, so you cannot have a CDROM which simply >installs Reader (etc.) with no intervention. > >Aandi >> >> I'm looking for info. regarding Windows 95 installation >> scripts that would >> automatically install Acrobat Reader, set a developer defined >> document as >> default and create an icon and program group. Is this a >> really difficult >> programming task? Are examples available somewhere that could be >> modified case by case? I have some programming expierience, >> but have never >> written scripts. >> >> I want to distribute demo CDROMS that have the installation routine >> automated. > >_______________________________________________________ > >-> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- >* http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * >+ Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + >_______________________________________________________ > > > _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 1-Oct-1998 21:21:48-GMT,2088;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA00364 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 15:21:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA03283; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 16:06:01 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 1 Oct 1998 16:04:22 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA03119; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 16:04:21 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19981001171341.00832620@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 01 Oct 1998 17:13:41 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] WYSIWYG In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== >Does anyone use software which allows wysiwyg viewing of the fonts in your >system from a control panel or something so that you can see what the font >looks like before you use it? Does Adobe Type Manager do this? Read the >product info and it does not explicitly say that it does this. > ATM does this, yes. In addition, you have only to doubleclick a TT font to see/print an example page. With ATM installed, the same is true of Type 1 PFB fonts. Steve Rindsberg/Prez RDP http://www.rdpslides.com _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 1-Oct-1998 22:14:53-GMT,2227;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA01827 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 16:14:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA06100; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 16:53:06 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 1 Oct 1998 16:51:37 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA05963; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 16:51:35 -0500 Message-Id: From: "Callaway, Rebecca" To: "pdf@lists.pdfzone.com" Subject: [PDF] FW: Colors of visited PDF links in Netscape (Acrobat Plug-in) Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 14:50:00 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== ---------- From: Callaway, Rebecca To: 'Post to PDF listserve' Subject: Colors of visited PDF links in Netscape (Acrobat Plug-in) Date: Thursday, October 01, 1998 9:36AM Hi PDF-ers I am using a web publishing application that renders PDF and views in the Acrobat Plug-in. These PDF's originate as WORD 97 documents with hyperlinks, and the hyperlinks are also rendered active in the distilling. When I display the document, I would like the links to ALWAYS appear BLUE (unvisited) - - but at this point, most of them are displaying black, since they have been visited (I'm assuming). Is there a way to set something so that all hyperlinks are always blue? thx - REbecca _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 1-Oct-1998 23:13:35-GMT,3611;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA03373 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 17:13:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA09584; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 17:53:39 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 1 Oct 1998 17:52:12 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA09471; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 17:52:09 -0500 Message-ID: From: Becky Mellinger To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] FW: Colors of visited PDF links in Netscape (Acrobat Pl ug-in) Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 15:51:41 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== The colors of links in PDFs don't work the same way they do in an HTML page. I set the colors of my links by using FrameMaker's conditional text feature. I set a condition called hypertext, which is red underlined, then set each link to the hypertext condition. When you create a PDF, a snapshot is taken of your file at the time you create it, so if all your text is black then, your links will be black in the final PDF. If your links are colored in your original file (and you have the right printer and PPD settings, etc....) then the color should carry through to the PDF to mark the links. The link color won't change though based on whether or not the link's been used. Becky Mellinger > ---------- > From: Callaway, > Rebecca[SMTP:Rebecca.Callaway@alliedsignal.com] > Reply To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Sent: Thursday, October 01, 1998 2:50 PM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: [PDF] FW: Colors of visited PDF links in Netscape > (Acrobat Plug-in) > > > ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== > > > ---------- > From: Callaway, Rebecca > To: 'Post to PDF listserve' > Subject: Colors of visited PDF links in Netscape (Acrobat Plug-in) > Date: Thursday, October 01, 1998 9:36AM > > Hi PDF-ers > > I am using a web publishing application that renders PDF and views in > the Acrobat Plug-in. These PDF's originate as WORD 97 documents with > hyperlinks, and the hyperlinks are also rendered active in the > distilling. When I display the document, I would like the links to > ALWAYS appear BLUE (unvisited) - - but at this point, most of them are > displaying black, since they have been visited (I'm assuming). > > Is there a way to set something so that all hyperlinks are always > blue? > > thx - > > REbecca > > _______________________________________________________ > > -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- > * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * > + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + > _______________________________________________________ > > > _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 1-Oct-1998 23:16:33-GMT,2414;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA03458 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 17:16:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA10043; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 18:00:16 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 1 Oct 1998 17:59:28 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA09941; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 17:59:27 -0500 Message-Id: <199810012259.PAA07193@condor.prod.itd.earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.0c (197) Date: Thu, 01 Oct 1998 16:02:03 -0800 Subject: Re: [PDF] WYSIWYG From: "C. Scott Miller" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== > >====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== > >Hi, > >Does anyone use software which allows wysiwyg viewing of the fonts in your >system from a control panel or something so that you can see what the font >looks like before you use it? Does Adobe Type Manager do this? Read the >product info and it does not explicitly say that it does this. On the Mac, the WYSIWYG Menus component of Now Utilities has been doing this for years within the application's font menu. It is particularly useful in Quark Xpress. Some programs, like Illustrator, impose their own font organization scheme overriding the useful WYSIWYG feature. C. Scott Miller PDF R_e_s_e_a_r_c_h__C_o_m_p_a_n_i_o_n A Designer's Guide to Adobe's Portable Document Format http://www.performancegraphics.com a production of Performance Graphics miller@performancegraphics.com _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 1-Oct-1998 23:19:52-GMT,3048;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA03537 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 17:19:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA10277; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 18:02:13 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 1 Oct 1998 18:01:24 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA10121; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 18:01:23 -0500 Message-ID: From: Nathan Keller To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] Acrobat files not opening from the Web... SOMETIMES! Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 16:01:38 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== We have files available via the web, some of which are larger than 4 MB. They are byte served up with Acrobat Reader 3.x (as a plugin) in Netscape 3.x and MSIE 3.x or 4.x (with the active X Plugin available from adobe) without incident. Since we have never had a problem I would have to think that the problem occurs from some other variable. BTW, our whole business is based on serving up PDF's. That is to say it is consistently and constantly proven to me that it works. I would be interested to know what the server software is loaded and exactly what exact versions of browsers are used. Sincerely, Nathan Keller Technical Support Career Guidance Foundation nathank@cgf.org (800) 854-2670 http://www.collegesource.org -----Original Message----- From: Hiatt, Mike [mailto:MHiatt@obiwan.Intecom.com] Sent: Thursday, October 01, 1998 11:20 AM To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' Subject: RE: [PDF] Acrobat files not opening from the Web... SOMETIMES! ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== The problem could be file size and browser version. We discovered - right before a demo of our CD-ROM documentation package to our users - that IE 4.0 and Netscape 4.0 with the Reader used as a plug-in will not open PDF files larger than 4MB. Reader will open inside the browser, but the PDF never appears. If they change to using Reader as a helper and not a plug-in, that will solve the problem. BTW, this is a known bug as buried deep in both IE and Netscape's documentation this is acknowledged. _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 1-Oct-1998 23:29:34-GMT,2172;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA03805 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 17:29:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA11229; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 18:16:15 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 1 Oct 1998 18:15:19 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA11164; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 18:15:14 -0500 Message-Id: <199810012314.QAA21836@condor.prod.itd.earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.0c (197) Date: Thu, 01 Oct 1998 16:12:27 -0800 Subject: Re: [PDF] Acrobat files not opening from the Web... SOMETIMES! From: "C. Scott Miller" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== > >====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== > >Thanks for the info. But...any advice on HOW to change Reader from a plug-in >to a helper? > For a Mac running Navigator, you can see my "How to..." at http://www.performancegraphics.com/Pages/acrobatr.html#Browser. This tutorial will give you the basics for most any configuration. HTH, C. Scott Miller PDF R_e_s_e_a_r_c_h__C_o_m_p_a_n_i_o_n A Designer's Guide to Adobe's Portable Document Format http://www.performancegraphics.com a production of Performance Graphics miller@performancegraphics.com _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 1-Oct-1998 23:45:02-GMT,4616;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA04187 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 17:44:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA11911; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 18:25:31 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 1 Oct 1998 18:24:37 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA11812; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 18:24:35 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19981001162517.00f4fd70@elroy> X-Sender: ayue@elroy X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Thu, 01 Oct 1998 16:25:17 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Ada Yue Subject: Re: [PDF] Acrobat files not opening from the Web... SOMETIMES! In-Reply-To: <002d01bded62$72cc2000$b2c314d1@Prometheus.main> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== John, Also, if your customers are using IE 4.x, please make sure they have installed the latest OCX. See http://www.adobe.com/supportservice/custsupport/LIBRARY/4c3a.htm for details Ada Yue At 10:37 AM 10/1/98 -0700, you wrote: > >====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== > >John, > >I'm not sure, but the blank page behavior might indicate that your users >don't have the correct plug-in or OCX installed. Do you know which web >browser they're using? > >Ian Lurie > >The Written Word, Inc. >Information Design Online, On Paper, and On the Web >email: ian@writtenword.com >web: www.writtenword.com > >"Vox audita perit, litera scripta manet" >The spoken word perishes, the written word remains > >-----Original Message----- >From: john.shardalow@cica.ca >To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com >Date: Thursday, October 01, 1998 10:38 AM >Subject: [PDF] Acrobat files not opening from the Web... SOMETIMES! > > >> >>====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== >> >>We use .PDF documents extensively on our web site. I have had numerous >>emails and phone calls saying such-and-such file comes up blank when the >>visitor is trying to open it up via the web. Unfortunately, I've never been >>able to recreate the problem myself either at work or at home -- they >>always open up for me. Finally, I could see a couple of files 'not' opening >>up for someone else in the office who is running the same browser as >>myself. The URLs are... >> >>http://www.cica.ca/new/ss/pdf/e_cassets.pdf >>http://www.cica.ca/new/ss/pdf/e_municipal.pdf >> >>...but the visitor to our site would normally get there by clicking on... >> >>http://www.cica.ca/new >>...then clicking on 'Studies & Standards' >>...then clicking on 'Newsletters & Publications' >>...then clicking on either 'Capital Assets' or 'An Illustrative Guide to >>Municipal Accounting and Financial Reporting' >> >>(I know... not the most glamorous of subjects!) >> >>Has anyone else come across this problem of files sometimes opening and >>sometimes not. I'm not sure if it's a browser problem or in the way people >>are making the files within our company. >> >>Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated... thanks in advance. >> >> John Shardalow >> CICA / ICCA >> webmaster@cica.ca -- http://www.cica.ca >> Netscape AIM Instant Messenger --> CICA Web >> >> >> >> >>_______________________________________________________ >> >>-> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- >>* http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * >>+ Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + >>_______________________________________________________ >> >> >> > > >_______________________________________________________ > >-> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- >* http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * >+ Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + >_______________________________________________________ > > > > _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 2-Oct-1998 2:45:21-GMT,1863;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA07858 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 20:45:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA22214; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 21:33:11 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 1 Oct 1998 21:32:18 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA22115; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 21:32:17 -0500 Message-ID: <00f901bdedac$b609df20$190d9fcf@default> From: "Jim and Marguerite Ripley" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] WYSIWYG Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 18:16:42 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2120.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2120.0 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== >Another thing you can do is make a pdf of all the fonts in your system. I made a pdf like that and find it very useful. > >Clay McCullough >www.imageplex.com >TIF PDF OCR Document Conversion >(615) 269-7806 >(615) 269-9039 fax > OK, I give up, how do you do that? _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 2-Oct-1998 2:45:23-GMT,2651;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA07862 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 20:45:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA21750; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 21:27:40 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 1 Oct 1998 21:25:50 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA21616; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 21:25:48 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Wraight, David D." To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Acrobat files not opening from the Web... SOMETIMES! Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 10:30:29 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== thanks Rob I had a chuckle over: "I'd offer another guess, but since I am Canadian, that $0.02 US actually cost me $23.44 CDN and I can't afford more!" John, on the topic, it really sounds like a compatibility problem - 2.1 versus 3.01 ... If the files are not being byte served - then a (very) general assumption could be made that they are not being optimized - ie. they were created in an earlier version of Acrobat (2.1).. Size is not an issue, althought the browsers documentation states that big files _can_ be a problem, it doesn't say anything about it not showing the first page. d........................... ps. if I contributed $0.02US it would cost you guys money :) .... -------------------------------------- > John, > > I managed to read your pdf files without any difficulty. My two cents > buys the following guess: > > a) Your pdf files are being distilled as 3.0 compatibe only, and > b) Those people who can't read them are still using Reader 2.1 > > I'd offer another guess, but since I am Canadian, that $0.02 US > actually cost me $23.44 CDN and I can't afford more! _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 2-Oct-1998 3:25:58-GMT,3351;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA08741 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 21:25:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA24102; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 22:05:02 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 1 Oct 1998 22:03:58 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA24038; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 22:03:57 -0500 Message-ID: <2E785084EBC0D111999900608C14A509BC5CD7@ExchangeMN2.ATK.COM> From: "Mera, Jose" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" , "'Rebecca.Callaway@alliedsignal.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] FW: Colors of visited PDF links in Netscape (Acrobat Pl ug-in) Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 21:02:16 -0600 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Rebecca, If what your looking for is to change the color of your links, Alliant Techsystems' LinkManager plug-in does that. Check information on our website (below), or mail me directly. Jose Mera DocMaestro Business Area Manager Alliant Techsystems, Inc. 13133 34th Street N. Clearwater, Florida 33762 tel: 727/572-2491 <-- new area code e-mail: jose_mera@atk.com web: http://ais.atk.com > ---------- > From: Callaway, Rebecca[SMTP:Rebecca.Callaway@alliedsignal.com] > Reply To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Sent: Thursday, October 01, 1998 5:50 PM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: [PDF] FW: Colors of visited PDF links in Netscape (Acrobat > Plug-in) > > > ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== > > > ---------- > From: Callaway, Rebecca > To: 'Post to PDF listserve' > Subject: Colors of visited PDF links in Netscape (Acrobat Plug-in) > Date: Thursday, October 01, 1998 9:36AM > > Hi PDF-ers > > I am using a web publishing application that renders PDF and views in > the Acrobat Plug-in. These PDF's originate as WORD 97 documents with > hyperlinks, and the hyperlinks are also rendered active in the > distilling. When I display the document, I would like the links to > ALWAYS appear BLUE (unvisited) - - but at this point, most of them are > displaying black, since they have been visited (I'm assuming). > > Is there a way to set something so that all hyperlinks are always blue? > > thx - > > REbecca > > _______________________________________________________ > > -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- > * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * > + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + > _______________________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 2-Oct-1998 4:05:08-GMT,2712;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA09550 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 22:05:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA26110; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 22:45:52 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 1 Oct 1998 22:44:38 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA25985; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 22:44:36 -0500 X-ROUTED: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 23:44:40 -0500 X-TCP-IDENTITY: Tonymck Message-ID: <01BDED95.6DD186C0@s72.onix.com> From: Tony McKinley To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Acrobat files not opening from the Web... SOMETIMES! Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 23:44:27 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id WAA25980 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== The funny thing is, sometimes they DO open. The 4.2 Mb PDF version of "From Paper to Web" has been on the Web in optimized, byteserved fashion since 3/28/97. According to server statistics, about 20 gigs of the book have been downloaded. It would seem that the concept works. While there are disconnects between Acrobat Reader 2.1 and 3, any user can just go and get the new version of Acrobat Reader for free. The more fundamental disconnect for Web users may be the differing performance of Netscape and MSIE when handling PDF. One works perfectly, one doesn't. We need an answer for this, since we can't ask people to change their browsers. Another example is the ability to use an HTML link to go directly to a specific page in a PDF file, i.e. click to page 3 of a 5 page article at http://imagebiz.com/pdfmark2.htm. Different browsers seem to behave differently. Has somebody fixed the broken one to work like the other one? All input welcome. Regards to all on this wonderful list, Tony McKinley >From Paper to Web: http://imagebiz.com _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 2-Oct-1998 4:12:12-GMT,2222;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA09685 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 22:12:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA26726; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 22:57:58 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 1 Oct 1998 22:57:05 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA26645; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 22:57:01 -0500 Message-Id: <199810020357.WAA26637@everglades.binc.net> Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 22:58:40 -0500 From: Clay McCullough Subject: Re: [PDF] WYSIWYG To: "pdf@lists.pdfzone.com" X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; Charset=US-ASCII X-Mailer: Bluto Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== On 10/1/98 at 6:16 PM, jripley@ns.net (Jim and Marguerite Ripley) wrote: > OK, I give up, how do you do that? > > >Another thing you can do is make a pdf of all the fonts in your system. I > made a pdf like that and find it very useful. Maybe the way I worded it didn't make sense. I apologize if I caused confusion. I needed my fonts on a piece of paper to show clients so they could pick what they wanted. I simply printed to pdf an illustrator file with every font and character. I then created bookmarks and organized by family. No big deal. It took me a day and a half to make it... but once done... it was a handy thing to have. Clay McCullough www.imageplex.com TIF PDF OCR Document Conversion (615) 269-7806 (615) 269-9039 fax _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 2-Oct-1998 11:36:21-GMT,3086;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA18304 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 05:36:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA12914; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 06:15:12 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 2 Oct 1998 06:09:48 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA12626; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 06:09:47 -0500 Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 12:09:35 +0100 (BST) From: Ann Apps Message-Id: <199810021109.MAA26814@cs6400.mcc.ac.uk> To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Acrobat files not opening from the Web... SOMETIMES! X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== > > Has anyone else come across this problem of files sometimes opening and > sometimes not. I'm not sure if it's a browser problem or in the way people > are making the files within our company. > I would be very interested to hear an answer to this problem. It is reported from time to time by some of our users, and I cannot really know what set-up they have. But it also happens to me occasionally: the bottom of the Netscape window says 'Document Done' but the screen is blank. Usually at a second attempt the document displays, but sometimes it takes more tries. I am using Acrobat Reader version 3, and I don't believe there is any thing wrong with the PDF file itself (otherwise it would never display). I suspect it is a network problem, because it seems to happen when the network is flakey doing other things. I have a very naive understanding of networks, but I suspect messages are getting out of synch, or the web browser on my machine gets back the message that the document has been sent, but not the document itself. I have also wondered if there was a problem with the local web cache size on my machine, PDF files being rather large. But I now doubt if this is the cause because I've seen the problem go away without my clearing the local web cache. Ann -------------------------------------------------------------------- Mrs. Ann Apps. SuperJournal Project, Manchester Computing, University of Manchester, Oxford Road, Manchester, M13 9PL, UK. Tel: +44 (0) 161 275 6039 Fax: +44 (0) 161 275 6040 Email: Ann.Apps@mcc.ac.uk WWW: http://www.superjournal.ac.uk/sj/ -------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 2-Oct-1998 12:13:54-GMT,3850;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA18944 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 06:13:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA15905; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 07:13:41 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 2 Oct 1998 07:10:17 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA15605; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 07:10:14 -0500 Message-ID: <70494B7C5351D21189E20080D88002AA0FB59E@hrserv2> From: "Perry, Robert" To: pdfdev@lists.pdfzone.com, PDF List Subject: RE: [PDFdev] java script Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 08:10:03 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1461.28) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdfdev@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdfdev@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDFdev discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== While we're on the subject I am always looking for examples of JavaScript in forms. I manage a corporate forms library which is 99% PDF, so I have many different opportunites for scripts. Does anyone know of a good site with examples of JavaScript in forms? Thanks, -Bob Perry > ---------- > From: Jane Zhou[SMTP:jzhou@Adobe.COM] > Reply To: pdfdev@lists.pdfzone.com > Sent: Thursday, October 01, 1998 8:19 PM > To: pdfdev@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: Re: [PDFdev] errors with java script > > > ====> Posted to the PDFdev discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== > > Is this a typo in your code? > > if (MonthOrQrt = 'monthly') > > BTW, what is "Dr. Watson error "? > > Jane > > Marty Bennett wrote: > > > ====> Posted to the PDFdev discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== > > > > I am getting errors with this code when I try and use this in one of my > > fields. I don't know what the error ever is because I get a Dr. Watson > > error before I get to read the error. Can anyone tell me what's wrong > with > > this code? > > > > Greatly Appeciated! > > Marty > > > > var f = this.getField("AshleyTCT"); > > var g = this.getField("AshleyComp"); > > var h = this.getField("MonthOrQtr"); > > var TotalCityTax = f.value; > > var CompPercent = g.value; > > var MonthOrQrt = h.value; > > var CompAllowance = TotalCityTax * CompPercent; > > > > if (MonthOrQrt = 'monthly') > > if (CompAllowance > 33.33) > > event.value = 33.33 > > else > > event.value = CompAllowance; > > > > else > > if (CompAllowance > 100.00) > > event.value = 100.00 > > else > > event.value = CompAllowance; > > __________________________________________________________ > > > > -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDFdev discussion list <-- > > * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdfdev/ * > > + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + > > __________________________________________________________ > > __________________________________________________________ > > -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDFdev discussion list <-- > * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdfdev/ * > + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + > __________________________________________________________ > __________________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDFdev discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdfdev/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + __________________________________________________________ 2-Oct-1998 12:33:52-GMT,3194;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA19350 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 06:33:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA16043; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 07:15:43 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 2 Oct 1998 07:13:23 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA15876; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 07:13:22 -0500 Content-return: allowed Date: Fri, 02 Oct 1998 08:13:13 -0400 From: "Watson, James R (Columbus)" Subject: [PDF] PDFs opening time and size, part two To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Cc: "'Aandi Inston'" Message-id: <5913080CA46DD111A98200A0C9960C10691D6E@ns-bco-mse7.im.battelle.org> X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== A while back I asked if anyone had experience with slow opening PDFs that have form elements. This is a follow-up. The files have bookmarks, regular links, and forms items that serve as rollover text display(text fields) with links (button fields that use go to view and show/hide actions). An Example: When I originally distill the PostScript file from a FrameMaker document, the result is a file Size PPC 8500 Mac Dell 560/NP (586-66MHZ) 680K that takes 14 seconds to open 59 seconds to open after I do a batch optimize 510K that takes 13 seconds to open 57 seconds to open after an individual save as with optimizing on 680K that takes 1 seconds to open 8 seconds to open During an exchange with Aandi Inston related to his compression plugin, I sent him a test file. I suggested that maybe the delay was a result of a compression routine used during the batch optimizing. I think he indicated that it had nothing to do with compression, but was a matter of order within the PDF file. It is clear to me that the code that does a "batch optimizing..." and a "Save As" handles the PDF document differently. I like the smaller size as this allows me to include more PDF documents on the CDs we make. However, the delay in opening the PDF document is intolerable. Second, opening each file separately to do a "Save As" is time consuming when you are dealing with hundreds of documents. It appears to me that only PDFs with the form items have this problem. Does anyone have an idea how I can easily have my cake and eat it too! (smaller size with quicker opening speed) ?????? Jim watson@battelle.org 614-424-4675 _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 2-Oct-1998 12:41:42-GMT,3838;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA19473 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 06:41:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA15816; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 07:12:49 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 2 Oct 1998 07:10:17 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA15621; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 07:10:15 -0500 Message-ID: <70494B7C5351D21189E20080D88002AA0FB59E@hrserv2> From: "Perry, Robert" To: pdfdev@lists.pdfzone.com, PDF List Subject: [PDF] RE: [PDFdev] java script Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 08:10:03 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1461.28) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== While we're on the subject I am always looking for examples of JavaScript in forms. I manage a corporate forms library which is 99% PDF, so I have many different opportunites for scripts. Does anyone know of a good site with examples of JavaScript in forms? Thanks, -Bob Perry > ---------- > From: Jane Zhou[SMTP:jzhou@Adobe.COM] > Reply To: pdfdev@lists.pdfzone.com > Sent: Thursday, October 01, 1998 8:19 PM > To: pdfdev@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: Re: [PDFdev] errors with java script > > > ====> Posted to the PDFdev discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== > > Is this a typo in your code? > > if (MonthOrQrt = 'monthly') > > BTW, what is "Dr. Watson error "? > > Jane > > Marty Bennett wrote: > > > ====> Posted to the PDFdev discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== > > > > I am getting errors with this code when I try and use this in one of my > > fields. I don't know what the error ever is because I get a Dr. Watson > > error before I get to read the error. Can anyone tell me what's wrong > with > > this code? > > > > Greatly Appeciated! > > Marty > > > > var f = this.getField("AshleyTCT"); > > var g = this.getField("AshleyComp"); > > var h = this.getField("MonthOrQtr"); > > var TotalCityTax = f.value; > > var CompPercent = g.value; > > var MonthOrQrt = h.value; > > var CompAllowance = TotalCityTax * CompPercent; > > > > if (MonthOrQrt = 'monthly') > > if (CompAllowance > 33.33) > > event.value = 33.33 > > else > > event.value = CompAllowance; > > > > else > > if (CompAllowance > 100.00) > > event.value = 100.00 > > else > > event.value = CompAllowance; > > __________________________________________________________ > > > > -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDFdev discussion list <-- > > * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdfdev/ * > > + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + > > __________________________________________________________ > > __________________________________________________________ > > -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDFdev discussion list <-- > * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdfdev/ * > + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + > __________________________________________________________ > _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 2-Oct-1998 13:52:25-GMT,2813;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA20777 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 07:52:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA20604; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 08:27:44 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 2 Oct 1998 08:24:52 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA20372; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 08:24:51 -0500 Message-ID: <018301bdee07$df102180$190d9fcf@default> From: "Jim and Marguerite Ripley" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] WYSIWYG Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 06:12:30 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2120.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2120.0 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== OK, so I'm dense. Do I understand you prepared an entire page for each font? Did you convert this to PDF for ease in transport electronically? On 10/1/98 at 6:16 PM, jripley@ns.net (Jim and Marguerite Ripley) wrote: > >> OK, I give up, how do you do that? >> > > >> >Another thing you can do is make a pdf of all the fonts in your system. I made a pdf like that and find it very useful. > > >Maybe the way I worded it didn't make sense. I apologize if I caused confusion. > >I needed my fonts on a piece of paper to show clients so they could pick what they wanted. I simply printed to pdf an illustrator file with every font and character. I then created bookmarks and organized by family. No big deal. It took me a day and a half to make it... but once done... it was a handy thing to have. > > > > > >Clay McCullough >www.imageplex.com >TIF PDF OCR Document Conversion >(615) 269-7806 >(615) 269-9039 fax > > > >_______________________________________________________ > >-> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- >* http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * >+ Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + >_______________________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 2-Oct-1998 15:22:42-GMT,2213;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA22938 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 09:22:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA26672; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 09:58:33 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 2 Oct 1998 09:55:59 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA26489; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 09:55:57 -0500 Message-Id: <199810021455.HAA03385@tern.prod.itd.earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.0c (197) Date: Fri, 02 Oct 1998 07:59:48 -0800 Subject: Re: [PDF] WYSIWYG From: "C. Scott Miller" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== > >====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== > >OK, so I'm dense. Do I understand you prepared an entire page for each font? > >Did you convert this to PDF for ease in transport electronically? For the Mac, if a type book is what you want, then "The TypeBook", the freeware program, is what you need. It automates the creation of font books. It has been around since 1991. Go to http://members.aol.com/GSGweb/tTBabout.html. C. Scott Miller PDF R_e_s_e_a_r_c_h__C_o_m_p_a_n_i_o_n A Designer's Guide to Adobe's Portable Document Format http://www.performancegraphics.com a production of Performance Graphics miller@performancegraphics.com _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 2-Oct-1998 16:20:46-GMT,4209;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA24507 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 10:20:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA27598; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 10:11:38 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 2 Oct 1998 10:09:29 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA27440; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 10:09:27 -0500 Message-Id: <199810021509.KAA27435@everglades.binc.net> Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 10:11:05 -0500 From: Clay McCullough Subject: Re: [PDF] WYSIWYG To: "pdf@lists.pdfzone.com" X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; Charset=US-ASCII X-Mailer: Bluto Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== On 10/2/98 at 6:12 AM, jripley@ns.net (Jim and Marguerite Ripley) wrote: > Do I understand you prepared an entire page for each font? > Yes, but that's the easy part. I only had to physically type out every character in one typeface on one page. After the first font example of every character was done and printed to pdf, I highlighted the whole page and changed to the next font or style (bold, italic, etc..). The hard part (well not exactly hard but time consuming) was the organization, removal, and installation of fonts into the system. I think the maximum number of readable fonts in a Macintosh is something like 120. So, each time I finished a group of fonts I had to remove and install a new set of fonts... and I to had to pay close attention that I didn't remove any of the Macintosh system fonts... any mistakes here meant sifting through all those fonts, finding the ones that were missing, reinstalling and restarting the computer. It was a time consuming project to say the least. Please realize I did not have ATM or any other utility for browsing fonts. I had had at one time a utility that browsed fonts, but it required system resources to run it. To me that was as big a pain as anything. (Remember "way" back when RAM was always an issue?). > Did you convert this to PDF for ease in transport electronically? > No, because my only intention was to use it in-house. Also, there's nothing fancy about the way I designed it... it's just a representation of every typeface that I currently own and have immediate access to. You are welcome to view and or download it. I just posted it to my web site. It is optimized and it will 'page at a time display' if you have your browser set up for that. However, fair warning... it's huge 3.8 MB... so if you find yourself downloading it don't yell at me! Here's the addy: www.imageplex.com/pdf/FONTS.PDF (PDF: 3891 K / 210 pages) - Sincerely, Clay > > > On 10/1/98 at 6:16 PM, jripley@ns.net (Jim and Marguerite Ripley) wrote: > > > >> OK, I give up, how do you do that? > >> > > > > > >> >Another thing you can do is make a pdf of all the fonts in your system. > I made a pdf like that and find it very useful. > > > > > >Maybe the way I worded it didn't make sense. I apologize if I caused > confusion. > > > >I needed my fonts on a piece of paper to show clients so they could pick > what they wanted. I simply printed to pdf an illustrator file with every > font and character. I then created bookmarks and organized by family. No > big deal. It took me a day and a half to make it... but once done... it was > a handy thing to have. > > Clay McCullough www.imageplex.com TIF PDF OCR Document Conversion (615) 269-7806 (615) 269-9039 fax _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 2-Oct-1998 16:21:06-GMT,5404;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA24525 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 10:20:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA27395; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 10:08:45 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 2 Oct 1998 10:06:32 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA27208; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 10:06:30 -0500 Message-ID: <3614EBD3.1F1DB49B@emtex.com> Date: Fri, 02 Oct 1998 16:05:55 +0100 From: Chris Cooper Organization: Emtex Ltd. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] PDFs opening time and size, part two References: <5913080CA46DD111A98200A0C9960C10691D6E@ns-bco-mse7.im.battelle.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Watson, James R (Columbus) wrote: > Does anyone have an idea how I can easily have my cake and eat it too! > (smaller size with quicker opening speed) ?????? > > Jim > watson@battelle.org > 614-424-4675 Unfortunately, I suspect this is an impossible dream. Firstly, there are two distinct types of optimization available. The first is what Distiller does, it can downsample (reduce the resolution and bit depth of) images and apply various compressions to both images and text - this reduces the size of the file but does little to affect loading speed (except that the file is smaller). It can be quite carefully controlled via the "Distiller - Job Options" dialog box. I suspect, although you don't say, that the "batch optimization" you mentioned was done using Distiller. The second type is what Exchange does when you "save as" with the "optimize" box checked. This applies compression but also makes changes to the file that enable the file to appear to load much quicker. In actual fact the file doesn't load that much quicker but the first page does - the other pages get loaded in the background while you look at it. If, as soon as the first page appears, you step forward several pages quickly, you will have to wait for them to load. When loading an unoptimized file, Reader generally has to read the whole file in before it can display the first page. This is not strictly true, but since, in order to get all the information to construct the first page it has to read data from all over the file (particularly the object index at the end of the file), it amounts to the same thing - especially over the web. Part of the optimization involves reorganising the data in the file so that all the parts needed for the first page are in one block at the start of the file (including a separate, smaller index specifically for the first page) so that that section can be sent first and as soon as you have got all of that section you can show the first page. The "save as" optimized version generally uses all the compression it can so it is doubtful you can make the file any smaller. (Although, annoyingly, it seems to have a distinct tendency to prefer using LZW instead of Flate/ZIP, which compresses better and isn't subject to royalties - sometimes even replacing Flate with LZW, and I can't find any options you can set to influence its behaviour.) In any case, if you edit or change the file in almost any way *after* you have "save as" optimized it it will cease to be optimized and will go back to requiring the long load time. The reason it is bigger when optimized in this way is that, amongst other things, the "save as" optimization process also involves adding extra data to the file. This can best be described as adding an extra layer of indexes to the file to allow Reader to access a particular page and an individual component within that page faster than usual. And these indexes make the file larger. But without them it won't load quickly. Swings and roundabouts - your choice. This reorganisation and extra indexing is also known as Linearization (see Chapter 9 of the PDF manual). NB: As I have previously queried on this list (no replies yet) I have found, by examining the contents of supposedly Linearized files, that although the resultant files did load faster, the extra info that had been added to the file did *not* match the formal definition in the PDF manual - as before, any suggestions on this are welcome. Question to all: I'm fairly sure Exchange can be made to do "save as" optimizations under software control (correct me if I'm wrong). If so, do you get any more control (such as choice of compressions)? Cheers, Chris (the big one) Chris Cooper Emtex Ltd Watford, UK ccooper@emtex.com "Tall, dark and gruesome - and then I grew some more!" _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 2-Oct-1998 16:28:54-GMT,6236;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA24806 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 10:28:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA30500; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 11:07:00 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 2 Oct 1998 11:05:22 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA30433; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 11:05:20 -0500 Message-ID: <01BDEDE3.F5378EE0@randyq> From: Randy Quincy To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Acrobat files not opening from the Web... SOMETIMES! Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 09:04:55 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="---- =_NextPart_000_01BDEDE3.F53DA960" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== ------ =_NextPart_000_01BDEDE3.F53DA960 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable We have experience problems similar to those already discussed. We refer = to it as the "white page of death" and have found that clicking the = "back" button on the browser (Netscape 4.0) and then either clicking = "forward" or reselecting the link will cause the PDF file to finally = appear in the browser window. File size seems to have no effect. 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Fri, 2 Oct 1998 10:40:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA31539; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 11:25:20 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 2 Oct 1998 11:24:31 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA31437; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 11:24:29 -0500 Message-ID: <19981002162417.16148.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [195.55.162.45] From: "x x" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Content-Type: text/plain Date: Fri, 02 Oct 1998 09:24:17 PDT Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Hello! I will like to know if there is any way to transform a HLP file into a PDF. Thanks a lot Juan Gonzalez ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 2-Oct-1998 16:41:45-GMT,4383;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA25175 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 10:41:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA31153; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 11:19:19 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 2 Oct 1998 11:18:22 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA31105; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 11:18:21 -0500 Message-Id: <199810021618.JAA20574@tern.prod.itd.earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.0c (197) Date: Fri, 02 Oct 1998 09:20:22 -0800 Subject: [PDF] FW: FrameMaker Master Indexes From: "C. Scott Miller" To: PDF Lists Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id LAA31098 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== I am forwarding this response from Lars since it appears to be the correct answer and he is having trouble responding directly to the list. My next question is... if this works on the Mac, does it also work in Windows? Anyone know for sure? Thanks, C. Scott Miller ---------- From: Lars Skage To: millercs@earthlink.net Subject: Re:FrameMaker Master Indexes Date: Fri, Oct 2, 1998, 12:07 AM Hi, this is a FrameQuestion mainly. For some reson I can't send a message to the list, so I'm sending it directly to you. I think this is how you do it (haven't tested it lately, but I know it works on Mac). For this to work, EVERY file MUST have a uniqe name! This is because all PDF-files must be in the same folder. Make a "master"-document with the same layout as the other indexes. Import all the index documents into this "master"-index, link the import by reference, NOT copy. Make sure that you check the pagination for every book, and manually setting the pagaination for every book. You could also usa a prefix for every book so every book starts on the right page#. Then print the book as postscript (not save) and "name" the printfile to * (just a star). This will create one ps file for every document in the book. Destill these files with Destiller. Do this for all books and the MasterIndex. Place every pdf in a folder and you are done. All the hypertextlinks from Frame will now work! You could make the master index by using crossrefs to every paragraph in every doc, but this is only if all is done in all documents. You might also check out List of Paragraphs (LOP). Hope this is useful to you. Best regards Lars Skage Consultant, trainer, FrameMaker, Acrobat, FileMaker and Paralell Publishing T5 Information AB Malmö, Sweden Tel +46 40 665 67 30 lars.skage@T5Info.com Acrobat Talk Mailing List wrote at 98-10-02 07.00 >Subject: FrameMaker Master Indexes >From: "C. Scott Miller" >Date: Thu, 01 Oct 1998 06:36:53 -0800 > >Here's one for the group... > >I have a client with a set of FrameMaker documents. Each set has 10 books in >it. Each book has 8 chapters, a TOC, and an Index. > >It is easy to make a bookmarked and hyperlinked PDF of each book. And I know >it is possible to make a master FrameMaker index of the 10 FrameMaker books >fairly easily (38 pages). The question is - is there any way to make a PDF >of the master index that hyperlinks to the 10 books automatically? > >Thanks, > >C. Scott Miller > > >PDF R_e_s_e_a_r_c_h__C_o_m_p_a_n_i_o_n >A Designer's Guide to Adobe's Portable Document Format >http://www.performancegraphics.com > >a production of Performance Graphics >miller@performancegraphics.com _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 2-Oct-1998 17:40:22-GMT,2086;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA26837 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 11:40:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA02414; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 12:21:08 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 2 Oct 1998 12:19:35 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA02258; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 12:19:33 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19981002132859.00913100@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Fri, 02 Oct 1998 13:28:59 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] Acrobat files not opening from the Web... SOMETIMES! In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19981001162517.00f4fd70@elroy> References: <002d01bded62$72cc2000$b2c314d1@Prometheus.main> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== > >Also, if your customers are using IE 4.x, please make sure they have >installed the latest OCX. >See http://www.adobe.com/supportservice/custsupport/LIBRARY/4c3a.htm for >details > And apparently they must turn off Content Advisor if they want to be able to download via rightclick on the link to the PDF file, according to a fellow on CIS who wasn't able to do this. Steve Rindsberg/Prez RDP http://www.rdpslides.com _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 2-Oct-1998 17:40:32-GMT,1758;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA26849 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 11:40:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA02486; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 12:22:03 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 2 Oct 1998 12:21:16 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA02426; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 12:21:15 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19981002133039.00913100@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Fri, 02 Oct 1998 13:30:39 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] WYSIWYG In-Reply-To: <00f901bdedac$b609df20$190d9fcf@default> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== > > >OK, I give up, how do you do that? > > If you have ATM, you can get it to print font samples, even of inactive fonts. Print to PS and Distill. Steve Rindsberg/Prez RDP http://www.rdpslides.com _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 2-Oct-1998 17:40:38-GMT,1752;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA26844 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 11:40:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA02648; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 12:24:31 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 2 Oct 1998 12:23:39 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA02579; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 12:23:38 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: kfoss@mailbag.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199810021455.HAA03385@tern.prod.itd.earthlink.net> Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 12:21:56 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Kurt Foss Subject: Re: [PDF] WYSIWYG Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== I don't believe TypeBook is freeware... but very reasonably priced. >For the Mac, if a type book is what you want, then "The TypeBook", the >freeware program, is what you need. It automates the creation of font books. >It has been around since 1991. rgds ~ Kurt _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 2-Oct-1998 17:54:16-GMT,3145;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA27201 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 11:54:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA03914; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 12:41:39 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 2 Oct 1998 12:40:40 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA03826; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 12:40:38 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19981002134941.0091c1c0@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Fri, 02 Oct 1998 13:49:41 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: [PDF] Re: In-Reply-To: <19981002162417.16148.qmail@hotmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== > >I will like to know if there is any way to transform a HLP file into a >PDF. It's mildly tricky. You can print any portion of a Win95 or NT HLP file you like, but underneath the hood, Windows is creating a separate print job for each page. In order to print to PDFWriter or to PS in order to distill the results, you'd need to supply a filename for each page when asked, either manually or via some sort of monitor that keys filenames into a dialog box each time it opens. That's a bit much for me. Another option that might be possible is printing to a spooler of some sort, assuming that you can stop the spooler from passing the files off to the printer, and that you can later save them to regular PS files. RedMON may have some means of doing this ... I don't really know. I ended up doing something a bit different. Some PS drivers use a monitor program of some sort that steps in before a PS file is written to the output port and optionally generate an automatic file name for the PS file and to put it in some directory of your choosing. WinSlideNT and WinSlide95 are examples of this kind of driver. Once you have a way of getting each page of the HLP file sent automatically to an individual PS file on disk, you concatenate them with a DOS command like: COPY *.PS BIGHONKER.PRN You can then distill the PRN file to PDF. The Winslide driver is available from our web site at http://www.rdpslides.com on the software download page. You'd want to download WSLD201.EXE rather than any of the other variations. Steve Rindsberg/Prez RDP http://www.rdpslides.com _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 2-Oct-1998 18:38:27-GMT,3644;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA28426 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 12:38:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA06493; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 13:18:40 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 2 Oct 1998 13:16:49 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA06392; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 13:16:47 -0500 Content-return: allowed Date: Fri, 02 Oct 1998 14:15:36 -0400 From: "Watson, James R (Columbus)" Subject: RE: [PDF] PDFs opening time and size, part two To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Message-id: <5913080CA46DD111A98200A0C9960C10691D71@ns-bco-mse7.im.battelle.org> X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== > -----Original Message----- > From: Chris Cooper [SMTP:ccooper@emtex.com] > Sent: Friday, October 02, 1998 11:06 AM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: Re: [PDF] PDFs opening time and size, part two > > > ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== > > Watson, James R (Columbus) wrote: > > > Does anyone have an idea how I can easily have my cake and eat it too! > > (smaller size with quicker opening speed) ?????? > > > I suspect, although you don't say, that the "batch > optimization" you mentioned was done using Distiller. > >>>>Well, no it wasn't. I am talking about the option within Exchange itself. > The second type is what Exchange does when you "save as" with the > "optimize" box > checked. This applies compression but also makes changes to the file that > enable > the file to appear to load much quicker. In actual fact the file doesn't > load > that much quicker but the first page does - the other pages get loaded in > the > background while you look at it. If, as soon as the first page appears, > you step > forward several pages quickly, you will have to wait for them to load. > >>>>>Could this be why the batch optimization appear to take a long time? It causes the file to load differently? > The "save as" optimized version generally uses all the compression it can > so it > is doubtful you can make the file any smaller. > >>>>But the Exchange batch optimization always makes the file smaller than with "Save As" Could it be that it does the same thing as the batch optimizing does with the exception of adding the special indexes for loading? > The reason it is bigger when optimized in this way is that, amongst other > things, the "save as" optimization process also involves adding extra data > to > the file. This can best be described as adding an extra layer of indexes > to the > file to allow Reader to access a particular page and an individual > component > within that page faster than usual. And these indexes make the file > larger. But > without them it won't load quickly. > Thank-you for your informative reply. Jim watson@battelle.org _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 2-Oct-1998 21:04:37-GMT,3810;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA02234 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 15:04:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA15807; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 15:43:30 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 2 Oct 1998 15:42:05 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA15684; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 15:42:02 -0500 Content-return: allowed Date: Fri, 02 Oct 1998 13:42:01 -0700 From: "Cutler, Wendy MHR:EX" Subject: RE: [PDF] Acrobat files not opening from the Web... SOMETIMES To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Message-id: <2B38D2AA1790D1119BB200805F1529E87ABE42@jet.bcsc.gov.bc.ca> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-type: text/plain Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== > on the topic, it really sounds like a compatibility problem - 2.1 > versus 3.01 ... If the files are not being byte served - then a (very) > general assumption could be made that they are not being optimized - ie. > they were created in an earlier version of Acrobat (2.1).. > Size is not an issue, although the browsers documentation states that > big files _can_ be a problem, it doesn't say anything about it not > showing the first page. When I got a blank page in MSIE 4.0, I was able to open the file from the temp folder by double clicking it, as was mentioned above. I also was able to read the file in my browser the next time I tried it. Here are two paragraphs from the 3.01 Reader Readme. The first paragraph seems to support the quote from a previous post; the second seems to explain why I'd get different results on different attempts, but it's not much help to you as the creator of the files. Blank Pages in Web Browsers - Some pages of PDF files may appear blank when viewed within Web browsers. This may occur if the PDF file is being served from an early versions of some Web servers (such as the Microsoft Internet Information Server version 2.0). Users can view such PDF files by saving a copy locally. Webmasters may need to update their server to the latest version (for more information see http://www.adobe.com/prodindex/acrobat/byteserve.html). At times Internet Explorer may display an empty area where it should display a PDF file. This may occur if Internet Explorer has an old or bad copy of the PDF file in its cache. You may be able to correct the problem by clearing its cache as follows: - select Internet Explorer's View > Options... menu - click on the "Advanced" tab (at the top right of the dialog) - click on the Settings... button under "Temporary Internet files" - click on the Empty Folder... button - click Yes - click OK - click OK Then redisplay the open window in Internet Explorer using either the Refresh button or the View > Refresh menu or F5. * ^ * ^ * Wendy Cutler, Project Co-ordinator, Application Devl & Support ITB, Ministry of Human Resources (604) 660-1591 > mailto:Wendy.Cutler@gems2.gov.bc.ca from OV: EXCH01(wcutler) _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 3-Oct-1998 0:51:50-GMT,2144;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA07530 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 18:51:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA27632; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 19:30:10 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 2 Oct 1998 19:28:45 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA27492; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 19:28:43 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: KEYCORP From: "Karen L Mibus" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <85256691.0061F7F4.00@keybank.com> Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 13:57:12 -0400 Subject: [PDF] InstallShield and Acrobat Reader +Fixes, Plug-ins, etc. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Re: [PDF] Installation Scripts, Tom wrote: The installation of Acrobat Reader plus your icon/shortcut can all be done at one time, with one script. Good luck. Tom Thiersch Can I use the script you speak of in place of InstallShield for installing the Reader with fixes and plug-ins? Am I risking any license or other issues by writing an InstallShield app, or other, to install Reader 3.01 +upgrade to RA + OCX fix +Forms Fillin 3.5? I'd like to create one executable file for our internal clients to view and print our documentation. Do I need to include special credits, license info, etc. in the ReadMe for such a compilation? --Karen _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 3-Oct-1998 0:51:51-GMT,4846;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA07535 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 18:51:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA27627; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 19:30:09 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 2 Oct 1998 19:28:47 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA27506; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 19:28:44 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: KEYCORP From: "Karen L Mibus" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <85256691.00606EB1.00@keybank.com> Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 13:48:48 -0400 Subject: Re: [PDF] Acrobat files not opening from the Web... SOMETIMES! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== I fully agree with Ann: I suspect it is a network problem. I have experienced the problem of not being able to open PDF files with IE 4+ and Acrobat 3.01RA with the most current OCX fix installed. The files vary from 40KB to >4 MB. Reader sometimes opens and the page remains blank with "Done" appearing in the status area, and other times, Reader doesn't open and I face a blank page with "Done" appearing in the status area. Also, when clicking a link to a PDF file I have received the message "File cannot be opened. Server has been reset." I've received this message when activating links to other file types including other HTML pages. Does anyone know what "Server has been reset" means? Per John Shardolow's pdf files, I was able to open the first pdf he listed without problem. The second, e_municipal.pdf tried to open. The status message regarding % downloaded kept flickering but nothing loaded and I waited two minutes! I tried another PDF at his site, final report PDF, and it loaded just fine. Unfortunately, I have no explanations, but I too want answers! --Karen zzsupjaa@cs6400.mcc.ac.uk on 10/02/98 07:09:35 AM Please respond to pdf@lists.pdfzone.com To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com cc: (bcc: Karen L Mibus/NE/KSC/KeyCorp) Subject: Re: [PDF] Acrobat files not opening from the Web... SOMETIMES! ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== > > Has anyone else come across this problem of files sometimes opening and > sometimes not. I'm not sure if it's a browser problem or in the way people > are making the files within our company. > I would be very interested to hear an answer to this problem. It is reported from time to time by some of our users, and I cannot really know what set-up they have. But it also happens to me occasionally: the bottom of the Netscape window says 'Document Done' but the screen is blank. Usually at a second attempt the document displays, but sometimes it takes more tries. I am using Acrobat Reader version 3, and I don't believe there is any thing wrong with the PDF file itself (otherwise it would never display). I suspect it is a network problem, because it seems to happen when the network is flakey doing other things. I have a very naive understanding of networks, but I suspect messages are getting out of synch, or the web browser on my machine gets back the message that the document has been sent, but not the document itself. I have also wondered if there was a problem with the local web cache size on my machine, PDF files being rather large. But I now doubt if this is the cause because I've seen the problem go away without my clearing the local web cache. Ann -------------------------------------------------------------------- Mrs. Ann Apps. SuperJournal Project, Manchester Computing, University of Manchester, Oxford Road, Manchester, M13 9PL, UK. Tel: +44 (0) 161 275 6039 Fax: +44 (0) 161 275 6040 Email: Ann.Apps@mcc.ac.uk WWW: http://www.superjournal.ac.uk/sj/ -------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 3-Oct-1998 1:06:51-GMT,3966;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA07865 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 19:06:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA29115; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 19:57:11 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 2 Oct 1998 19:55:57 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA29032; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 19:55:55 -0500 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19981003005552.00d8ddcc@env-sol.com> X-Sender: thiersch@env-sol.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 02 Oct 1998 17:55:52 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Tom Thiersch Subject: Re: [PDF] InstallShield and Acrobat Reader +Fixes, Plug-ins, etc. Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== >Can I use the script you speak of in place of InstallShield for installing >the Reader with fixes and plug-ins? Nope - there's no integrated/updated version available yet from Adobe (as far as I know). There *might* be a way to tell the ABCPY procedure to launch the installers for the fixes, etc.; why not try it and see? >Am I risking any license or other issues by writing an InstallShield app, >or other, to install Reader 3.01 +upgrade to RA + OCX fix +Forms Fillin >3.5? YES - That's strictly prohibited by the Adobe license. You MUST use the Adobe-supplied installer. See: http://www.adobe.com/prodindex/acrobat/distribute.html which reads, in part: "You can distribute the free Adobe(R) Acrobat(R) Reader software to anyone - inside or outside your company - who needs to view, navigate, and search PDF files. "You may make unlimited copies of the Acrobat Reader 3.0 software and give copies to other persons or entities as long as the copies contain the Electronic End-User License Agreement and the same copyright and other proprietary notices that appear on or in the software. The license agreement, copyright notices, and other notices are contained in the Acrobat Reader installer program; so as long as you do not alter the installer program in any way you will be in compliance with the agreement." Note the last sentence in particular. Sorry, but that's the way it is unless you can get Adobe Legal to grant you an exemption. You can, however, launch the Adobe installer from within your own Installshield program; this allows you to "stay legal" and also add your own features. Tom Thiersch At 01:57 PM 10/2/98 -0400, you wrote: > >====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== > > >Re: [PDF] Installation Scripts, Tom wrote: > > The installation of Acrobat Reader plus your icon/shortcut can all be > done at one time, with one script. > Good luck. > Tom Thiersch > >Can I use the script you speak of in place of InstallShield for installing >the Reader with fixes and plug-ins? > >Am I risking any license or other issues by writing an InstallShield app, >or other, to install Reader 3.01 +upgrade to RA + OCX fix +Forms Fillin >3.5? I'd like to create one executable file for our internal clients to >view and print our documentation. Do I need to include special credits, >license info, etc. in the ReadMe for such a compilation? > >--Karen > _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 3-Oct-1998 3:59:40-GMT,1731;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA11149 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 21:59:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA03614; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 22:39:41 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 2 Oct 1998 22:38:13 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA03477; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 22:38:07 -0500 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <5913080CA46DD111A98200A0C9960C10691D71@ns-bco-mse7.im.battelle.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Message: http:/www.WorldEnergy.com Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 21:38:02 -0600 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Hugh Evans Subject: [PDF] 40 X 40 limit - restrictive Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Is there a way to get around the 40 X 40 inch page size limitation in PDF? I have maps that are 36 X 70 and my current work around is printing 2 pages and hand spliceing! Regards, Hugh Evans _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 3-Oct-1998 4:04:39-GMT,2314;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA11269 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 22:04:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA04438; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 22:55:36 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 2 Oct 1998 22:54:36 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA04347; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 22:54:35 -0500 Message-ID: <3615AE7E.3F2E@archangel.net> Date: Fri, 02 Oct 1998 23:56:40 -0500 From: Shane Steinman Organization: ArchAngel Media Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] 40 X 40 limit - restrictive References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Hugh Evans wrote: > Is there a way to get around the 40 X 40 inch page size limitation in PDF? > I have maps that are 36 X 70 and my current work around is printing 2 pages > and hand spliceing! Is there some reason that you can't work at 50% of final size and output at 200% ?? -- Shane Steinman Technical Director =================================================================== ArchAngel Media Inc. 555 Sheppard Ave. West, Suite 910 Toronto, Ontario, CANADA M3H 2R7 ================================= Tel. or Fax: (416) 410-6366 E-mail: shane@archangel.net Web: http://www.archangel.net _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 3-Oct-1998 4:47:14-GMT,2606;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA12014 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 22:47:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA06092; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 23:32:44 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 2 Oct 1998 23:31:47 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA06027; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 23:31:45 -0500 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3615AE7E.3F2E@archangel.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Message: http:/www.WorldEnergy.com Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 22:31:29 -0600 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Hugh Evans Subject: Re: [PDF] 40 X 40 limit - restrictive Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== > Is there some reason that you can't work at 50% of final size and > output at 200% ?? Shane: Good response - this is what I have found. The map generation package generates a scale ie. 1"= 2 miles and a scale bar on the map that gets thrown off when outputing at other than 100% Also, I am finding that not all industries are "in tune" with .PDF files and the closer that you can get to a finished solution the better chance one has of seeing the format addopted. For instance, I sent a map (PDF) to an oil company (reduced the scale as you suggested above) - I also included Acrobat Reader on the CD with the Map. The company could not / or would not install Acrobat reader to view the file - ultimately requesting a print file. I am trying to make things as uncomplicated as possible - suggesting opening & outputing times 200% is just another hurdle that sounds more complicated than it is and is a hinderance to addoption. Also, it seems that 40 X 40 is not that large an image. Still, your solution does make sense. Regards, Hugh Evans _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 3-Oct-1998 5:17:38-GMT,4419;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA12581 for ; Fri, 2 Oct 1998 23:17:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA07162; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 00:01:49 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 3 Oct 1998 00:00:37 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA07106; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 00:00:35 -0500 Message-ID: <3615BDF5.5ED8@archangel.net> Date: Sat, 03 Oct 1998 01:02:42 -0500 From: Shane Steinman Organization: ArchAngel Media Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] 40 X 40 limit - restrictive References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Hugh Evans wrote: > > The map generation package generates a scale ie. 1"= 2 miles and a scale > bar on the map that gets thrown off when outputing at other than 100% I am assuming from what you've written, that you are making your PDF files directly out of the map package. Is this correct? What formats can you get from the MapGen package? EPS? PostScript? Which app. are you using? Unix platform, I bet. Or MapInfo on a desktop machine? If you can do EPS at 100% from the map package. Using an interim EPS format step will "lock in" the scaling relationship between the map and the scale bar itself - since your MapGen package generated the EPS file at 100%. The EPS file can be imported into Quark or PageMaker at 50% of size. Then, generate your PDF from within the desktop app. and output the resulting file at 200%. (This part you cannot get around as far as I can tell, but it does resolve your disproportional scaling issue.) > > Also, I am finding that not all industries are "in tune" with .PDF files > and the closer that you can get to a finished solution the better chance > one has of seeing the format addopted. Tell me about it. :) > For instance, I sent a map (PDF) to an oil company (reduced the scale as > you suggested above) - I also included Acrobat Reader on the CD with the > Map. The company could not / or would not install Acrobat reader to view > the file - ultimately requesting a print file. I am trying to make things > as uncomplicated as possible - suggesting opening & outputing times 200% is > just another hurdle that sounds more complicated than it is and is a > hinderance to addoption. You could always simply send out an EPS file. This would give them a previewable file, printability and, if any fonts are downloaded into the EPS file, fairly reliable portability. Although, this would mean that they would probably have to import the file into something else to command the print. What might that reasonably be? Some print systems will print EPS file directly. They construct a "ghost page" based on the bounding box of the EPS file and insert a "showpage" command at the bottom of the file to initiate the printing at the PostScript device. > Also, it seems that 40 X 40 is not that large an image. Really, it's not. In the world of mapping, 40 x 40 is a baby. Regards, Shane -- Shane Steinman Technical Director =================================================================== ArchAngel Media Inc. 555 Sheppard Ave. West, Suite 910 Toronto, Ontario, CANADA M3H 2R7 ================================= Tel. or Fax: (416) 410-6366 E-mail: shane@archangel.net Web: http://www.archangel.net _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 3-Oct-1998 6:15:12-GMT,4854;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA13971 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 00:15:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA09163; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 01:01:42 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 3 Oct 1998 01:00:38 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA09124; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 01:00:36 -0500 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3615BDF5.5ED8@archangel.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Message: http:/www.WorldEnergy.com Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 23:59:52 -0600 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Hugh Evans Subject: Re: [PDF] 40 X 40 limit - restrictive Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== At 1:02 AM -0500 10/3/98, Shane Steinman wrote: > ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== > > Hugh Evans wrote: > > > > The map generation package generates a scale ie. 1"= 2 miles and a scale > > bar on the map that gets thrown off when outputing at other than 100% > > I am assuming from what you've written, that you are making your PDF > files directly out of the map package. Is this correct? This is true - in this case I am using a package called Ggeographix running on NT. > What formats can you get from the MapGen package? EPS? PostScript? Formats are pretty restrictive because (IMO) the publisher wants you to stay within THEIR solution. I can also get DXF. PS is possible via a print driver etc. > Which app. are you using? Unix platform, I bet. Or MapInfo on a > desktop machine? The UNIX packages (SeisX) I use for mapping outputs to CGM+ format that is proprietary. So I end up doing screen dumps on these graphics to tiff and then distilling. Actually, am quite impressed with the quality. > If you can do EPS at 100% from the map package. Using an interim EPS > format step will "lock in" the scaling relationship between the map > and the scale bar itself - since your MapGen package generated the > EPS file at 100%. I find that PS and EPS support to be a joke on Windows. There is always the need for multiple, intermediate step somewhere! The scale bar problem is more to do with the text because 1 inch does not = 2 miles - on the map it equals 1 mile (yes the scale bar scales appropriately but the text defn. is a bust). I have been generating a number of maps from MapInfo - outputing to PS and then distilling gives great results but very slow (unacceptable) redraw times when there are 100's / 1000's of polygons on the map. My solution has been to import the PS (eps) into Photoshop, export as a tiff and then re-distill. Results are acceptable. Exporting Maps from MapInfo is a disaster - the resulting graphic (ie. Tiff) is at screen resolution. > > > > > Also, I am finding that not all industries are "in tune" with .PDF files > > and the closer that you can get to a finished solution the better chance > > one has of seeing the format addopted. > > Tell me about it. :) PDF shows/demonstrates well but trying to get an office of geologists, landmen, accountants, etc. to learn the nuances of what works is an uphill struggle. If Adobe distiller would support 15-20 file formats life would be much easier. > > You could always simply send out an EPS file. This would give them a > previewable file, printability and, if any fonts are downloaded into > the EPS file, fairly reliable portability. Although, this would mean > that they would probably have to import the file into something else > to command the print. What might that reasonably be? I find eps and PS very hard to support in an enterprise using Windows. Most Windows offices have no support for PS / EPS. UNIX offices know PS but not eps. PDF Viewer is a brilliant and economic solution - pdf generation is confusing to people without a graphics foundation. My Windoes users are scared stiff of GhostScript (my Mac users love PDF - can't get enough of it). Thanks for your thoughts Shane. Hugh Evans _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 3-Oct-1998 15:47:58-GMT,2149;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA23740 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 09:47:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA27361; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 10:13:48 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 3 Oct 1998 10:08:21 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA27104; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 10:08:19 -0500 Message-Id: <199810031508.IAA13155@tern.prod.itd.earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.0c (197) Date: Sat, 03 Oct 1998 08:09:44 -0800 Subject: Re: [PDF] WYSIWYG From: "C. Scott Miller" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== >>For the Mac, if a type book is what you want, then "The TypeBook", the >>freeware program, is what you need. It automates the creation of font books. >>It has been around since 1991. You're right, Kurt. The current version now costs money (to save even more time and money). However, it was freeware in 1992 and may be available in former versions from your favorite Mac User Group BBS. C. Scott Miller PDF R_e_s_e_a_r_c_h__C_o_m_p_a_n_i_o_n A Designer's Guide to Adobe's Portable Document Format http://www.performancegraphics.com a production of Performance Graphics miller@performancegraphics.com _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 3-Oct-1998 16:31:01-GMT,3509;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA24606 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 10:31:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA29970; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 11:15:02 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 3 Oct 1998 11:10:52 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA29818; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 11:10:51 -0500 Message-ID: <36165B0F.6B03@archangel.net> Date: Sat, 03 Oct 1998 12:12:49 -0500 From: Shane Steinman Organization: ArchAngel Media Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] 40 X 40 limit - restrictive References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Hi Hugh, You wrote: > Formats are pretty restrictive because (IMO) the publisher wants you to > stay within THEIR solution. I can also get DXF. PS is possible via a print > driver etc. Okay, so what about DXF? You can open DXF in Illustrator and correct your scaling bar problem, save as EPS and make a script for Photoshop to open the Illustrator EPS from a certain directory at a chosen resolution. Save as JPEG out of Photoshop and you can get an even nicer result than allowing Distiller to convert your TIFF to JPEG. For some reason, the JPEG from Photoshop will convert gradations more smoothly than JPEGs from Distiller. If you want to exercise this option, turn off the compression & downsampling for these objects in Distiller since you will already have performed these functions. > Exporting Maps from MapInfo is a disaster - the resulting graphic (ie. > Tiff) is at screen resolution. MapInfo can be pig-like in certain instances. > I find eps and PS very hard to support in an enterprise using Windows. Most > Windows offices have no support for PS / EPS. UNIX offices know PS but not > eps. PDF Viewer is a brilliant and economic solution - pdf generation is > confusing to people without a graphics foundation. My Windoes users are > scared stiff of GhostScript (my Mac users love PDF - can't get enough of > it). Gotta love those Mac people. 8^) Good luck Hugh! -- Shane Steinman Technical Director =================================================================== ArchAngel Media Inc. 555 Sheppard Ave. West, Suite 910 Toronto, Ontario, CANADA M3H 2R7 ================================= Tel. or Fax: (416) 410-6366 E-mail: shane@archangel.net Web: http://www.archangel.net _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 3-Oct-1998 18:48:48-GMT,2741;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA27099 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 12:48:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA02207; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 13:20:34 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 3 Oct 1998 13:19:08 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA02130; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 13:19:06 -0500 Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1998 14:18:24 -0400 From: Michael Vorel Subject: [PDF] Re: To: "INTERNET:pdf@lists.pdfzone.com" Message-ID: <199810031418_MC2-5B7C-8682@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id NAA02126 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Message text written by INTERNET:pdf@lists.pdfzone.com >Another option that might be possible is printing to a spooler of some sort, assuming that you can stop the spooler from passing the files off to the printer, and that you can later save them to regular PS files. RedMON may have some means of doing this ... I don't really know.< If you have an NT server or workstation that you can control you can enable the print queue to keep all print files. This NT print queue should be defined for a PS print device. There is no need to have a real printer attached to service the queue, if you really don't want the paper generated. Once you have printed all your pages or files, you can capture the queue files to Distiller (they are already in PS format) and create your PDF files. If you have additional specific questions on how to accomplish this you can contact me directly. I have not tested this on Novell servers lately, but if my old memory holds true I believe you can perform the same service on Novell. Michael Vorel Design Consultant Bowne Business Solutions 555 5th Avenue New York, NY 10017 212-351-9019 mvorel@desi.net HTH michael _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 3-Oct-1998 20:12:01-GMT,3878;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA28640 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 14:11:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA05900; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 14:53:32 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 3 Oct 1998 14:52:19 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA05812; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 14:52:17 -0500 Message-Id: <199810031952.MAA12139@core.anacapa.net> From: "Marty Tryon" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] color digital ads Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1998 09:57:00 -0700 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1157 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Scott, or anyone with Reviewer info... Re;>> Acrobat Reviewer. Are there any Reviewer API calls available. Though Capture 2.0 is an OLE server application I'm wondering if Reviewer is call-able from Visual Basic. I don't see any .TLB files on it so I may have answered my own question. In Reviewer there is the functionality of being able to use hidden text under a graphic that I specifically would like to use in my Visual Basic application. In my first peruse of Capture's API I don't see anything that looks like what I want to do in this regard. I would appreciate any info on getting into the Reviewer's "engine room." Thanks in advance... Marty Tryon Rainbow Navigation ---------- > From: C. Scott Miller > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: Re: [PDF] color digital ads > Date: Wednesday, September 30, 1998 8:31 AM > > > ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== > > >I don't understand this "Acrobat Reviewer" thing. To edit/insert > (cut/paste) graphics, I have to use the Pitstop plug-in. Is there Acrobat > software for page/art assembly? Please claify. > >. > >Justin Blocksom > >Printing & Publications Corp. > >jblocksom@printandpub.com > > Acrobat Reviewer is a separate program included in Adobe's Acrobat Capture > 2.x (Windows only) package. It receives .acd files from Capture and allows > you to do a better job at finding and editing suspects than Exchange does > (it highlights misspellings and all numericals for proofing). It also allows > you to edit parts of the file, eliminating unwanted elements (say b&w > photos) and adding other elements (like color scans). You can then save to > .pdf from Reviewer. > > Adobe does not sell it separately. I haven't seen .acd files created in any > other program. > > C. Scott Miller > > PDF R_e_s_e_a_r_c_h__C_o_m_p_a_n_i_o_n > A Designer's Guide to Adobe's Portable Document Format > http://www.performancegraphics.com > > a production of Performance Graphics > miller@performancegraphics.com > > _______________________________________________________ > > -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- > * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * > + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + > _______________________________________________________ > _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 4-Oct-1998 1:27:32-GMT,3209;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA04798 for ; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 19:27:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA17834; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 20:09:36 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 3 Oct 1998 20:07:44 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA17725; Sat, 3 Oct 1998 20:07:42 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com, xpicard@hotmail.com Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1998 18:02:49 +0000 Subject: [PDF] Converting a Windows help file into PDF Message-ID: <19981003.180250.3318.0.dcmah@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 1.49 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0-11,15-16,19,23,27-28,30-31,35-37 From: dcmah@juno.com (Dennis C Lee) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== You wrote in the PDF mailing list: === Hello! I will like to know if there is any way to transform a HLP file into a PDF. Thanks a lot Juan Gonzalez === This is actually an interesting idea. I produce both types of files for my job, but never thought of doing it in this direction. Someone should write a program that does this. Here's one way to do it, although you won't get the navigation features of the help file: 1. Decompile the help file, which produces a project file and an RTF file (the one you'll need). I believe a free decompiling program can be found at www.wextech.com or www.helpmaster.com. 2. Open the RTF file in WordPad (or MS Word, WordPerfect, etc.). If you open it is MS Word, the RTF file will probably have lots of strange footnotes that function as input codes to the help compiler. Delete them if you wish. 3. Print to a PDF file by either using the PDFWriter driver or using a PostScript printer driver (and then converting the PS file to PDF with Acrobat Distiller). PDFWriter is the better one to use, because a Windows help file will probably contain only TrueType fonts. (Note: Style names aren't retained in the decompile, so you can't really use PDFMaker on it without manual tweaking.) If you don't know what PDFWriter and Acrobat Distiller are, you can get the former for $30, if Adobe (www.adobe.com) is still selling it, or both as part of the commercial Acrobat software (not the free Acrobat Reader) for $150-200 on the street. Cheers, Dennis ________________________________________________________________ Get secure free e-mail that you don't need Web access to use from Juno, the world's second largest online service. Download your free software at http://www.juno.com/getit.b.html. _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 4-Oct-1998 10:54:54-GMT,4514;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA14977 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 1998 04:54:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA03197; Sun, 4 Oct 1998 05:34:11 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 4 Oct 1998 05:30:29 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA03026; Sun, 4 Oct 1998 05:30:26 -0500 From: jeffmcarthur@home.com (Jeffrey McArthur) To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Re: Postscript vs. Encapsulated Postscript Date: Sun, 04 Oct 1998 10:19:06 GMT Organization: ATLIS Publishing Services Message-ID: <361746c4.1573358@mail> References: <8525668D.0044D92D.00@keybank.com> In-Reply-To: <8525668D.0044D92D.00@keybank.com> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id FAA03022 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== On Mon, 28 Sep 1998 08:37:13 -0400, you wrote: >>Avoid printing PDF files to HP printers unless they have postscript ... >>If at all possible, do not install ATM on a PC. >Why avoid printing PDF files to HP printers? Adobe provides a fix upgrade >3.01RA for printing PDFs to HP printers without PostScript. I tested this >upgrade and it solved our problems with printing screen captures within PDF >files. Of course, HP printers without PostScript do not print produce the >same quality as a true PostScript printer, but they're close. The reason is speed and network traffic. The PCL file generated are huge (try printing to file to see the size). The size of the file slows the printing down. We have several HP printers. We have done the test where we printed the same document to two different printers: one with postscript, one without. The postscript printed about twice as fast. This was a major issue with us since we were printing thousands of pages a day. (Actually we did a LOT of testing on this. We had to justify to our corporate IS department why we need to upgrade the printer to postscript. We had to run the tests numerous times. We even had to move the printers to different network connections to prove that it was not some problem with the network.) So quality is not the issue, speed of printing is. >Why avoid using ATM on a PC???? Maybe it is just my very, very bad luck with ATM. The past three times I have tried to install ATM to a PC bad things have happened. The last time was the worst. We purchased a copy of ATM for Windows 95. I tried to install it to my PC. During the install, my hard disk had an internal explosion, literally; after we took the hard disk out of the PC you could hear parts rattling around inside it. Since this was the THIRD PC that I personally, had bad things happen to it while I was trying to install ATM, I avoid ATM. The exploding hard disk was probably not caused by ATM; but I was not going to try and prove it. Earlier attempts to install ATM had caused PC's to become totally unstable. Every time I install ATM to a PC, at a minimum we end up reformatting the hard disk within a month. The three PCs that I use on a daily basis do not have ATM installed. I have never had to reinstall Windows 95 on any of the PCs without ATM loaded. Every PC we have that gets ATM installed will end up having to have their hard disk reformatted within a month. Something goes wrong and they can no longer get to their email, or the network, or weird things happen. So unless I absolutely, positively need ATM, I avoid installing it if at all possible. Jeffrey M\kern-.05em\raise.5ex\hbox{\b c}\kern-.05emArthur a.k.a. Jeffrey McArthur ATLIS Publishing Services http://members.home.net/jeffmcarthur/ _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 4-Oct-1998 19:51:17-GMT,7661;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA00357 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 1998 13:50:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA21013; Sun, 4 Oct 1998 12:46:41 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 4 Oct 1998 12:45:28 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA20965; Sun, 4 Oct 1998 12:45:26 -0500 From: jeffmcarthur@home.com (Jeffrey McArthur) To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Re: Postscript vs. Encapsulated Postscript Date: Sun, 04 Oct 1998 17:34:03 GMT Organization: ATLIS Publishing Services Message-ID: <3618aa84.730186@mail> References: <199810040937_MC2-5B82-6B54@compuserve.com> In-Reply-To: <199810040937_MC2-5B82-6B54@compuserve.com> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id MAA20961 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== On Sun, 4 Oct 1998 09:36:40 -0400, you wrote: >Do all the HP printers have the same RAM? If not, banding occurs and page >creation is slowed down. How is memory allocated in the printerss. Many >printers allow you to configure memory for spooling, Virt Mem, fonts, etc. >How are fonts handled? Are they part of the printstream, converted to >bitmap, substituted, converted to type "X" or merely called in the file? >Which print driver is used for each printer? Is the PPD current? Is the >print driver the latest & greatest? (HP is famous for slipstreaming >fixes.) >What is the CPU speed in each printer? >Is the BIOS updated in each printer? (HP is famous for slipstreaming >fixes.) >Are the printers 600 or 300 dpi? The rule of thumb is 4MB RAM for one page >at 300 DPI, B&W only. >What is the network protocol for each printer? >What is the default PDL for each printer? If the engine has to switch >modes, this takes time. >Different drivers create different print files, based on the OS that uses >the driver. Many NT created files are smaller and more compact than Windows >95. Also, if you are measuring wall time, take into consideration how much >spooling occurs during the process. Windows 95 on Novell servers is the >worst. Windows NT 4.0 Workstation attached to NT 4.0 servers will reduce >wall time. They were "identical printers". We went through the configuration for each printer and made sure that all the parameters that were configurable (on the front panel) was the same, except for the postscript option. At one time, the non-postscript printer had MORE memory than the postscript printer. So we took the extra memory out, figuring that more memory could have slowed it down someway. Taking the memory out, slowed the printer way down. So we put the memory back. We did a lot of testing, just to prove to our IS department we needed to upgrade the HP printer to postscript. It took a lot of effort, but we finally proved that printing to an HP4SI with the postscript board was much faster than printing PCL to the same printer. We even had to drag the printers all over because our IS department was convinced that there must be some network problem. So we had to drag the printer up to corporate, and directly attach them to a PC that corporate had set up. That way, our corporate IS department could do the timing. (At the time, our corporate IS department was very firmly against upgrading any of the printers to postscript; they hated postscript printers. We ended up wasting a lot of time and effort over a silly little board that cost about $600.) We narrowed the test down to creating two files, one PCL, the other Postscript. Then we connected each printer directly to the parallel port of the PC. The PC was booted up in Dos 6.22. The files were printed using the standard dos print command. Our IS department swapped the Postscript board from one printer to the other and tested it that way. They added and took away memory. Basically our IS department tried every test they could think of to prove that we did not need the Postscript board. In the end, we proved our point and got the postscript board. Unfortunately our IS department then fell in love with Postscript and the next printer we got was a QMS 2060. You cannot believe the hell we went through testing that beast. The QMS is very fast; but very, very, very picky and it was designed for someone fixated on security. When you connect a QMS to your network, and it logs in, the first thing it does is change all the passwords it has access to. What this means is if you buy a QMS network printer and something goes wrong with it and you have to have it replaced, you cannot just unplug the bad one and plug in the good one. You have to have your network adminstrator go through and zap all the passwords that the QMS changed. This was a nightmare when we were trying to evaluate different models of the QMS. You would plug one in, get it working, and then run the tests. Befor you could test the next model, we had to have the network administrator go in and zap all the passwords that the QMS had set. This is fully documented in the QMS manual. Personally I think it is a bug, (I like the definition of a bug as this: if you can turn it off and on its a feature, if you can't, its a bug; you cannot turn the security features on the QMS off, so it is a bug.) If you do get a QMS 2060 and you want to print a lot of postscript, you need to make sure that QMS configures it correctly. The default configuration from QMS is wrong! You will not get the speed the printer is capable of. We found this out by testing all of their different models. I believe you want to have the same configuration as the QMS 2064. The software and the hardware for the 2060 and 2064 are identical. The 2064 has a few more options and is a lot more expensive. If you get all the memory settings and configuration parameters from the 2064 and set the 2060 with those same parameters there is no difference in printing speed between the 2060 and the 2064. If you don't, then the 2064 prints about 25% faster. Personally, I don't like the QMS. It is not very reliable. In less than a year we have had to have quite a bit of service done to the QMS and it is still not reliable. Right now it gets into this weird "waiting on end of input state". The only way to fix it is to turn it off, wait at least 30 seconds, then turn it back on. We found out the hard way you MUST wait 30 seconds. The QMS has some "unusual" features in its operating system. If you turn the QMS off, and then back on too quickly, the QMS will reformat its hard disk. This is another one of those questionable features that are actually documented in the QMS manual. Jeffrey M\kern-.05em\raise.5ex\hbox{\b c}\kern-.05emArthur a.k.a. Jeffrey McArthur ATLIS Publishing Services http://members.home.net/jeffmcarthur/ _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 4-Oct-1998 19:51:25-GMT,2534;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA00392 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 1998 13:51:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA19710; Sun, 4 Oct 1998 12:15:24 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 4 Oct 1998 12:14:06 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA19627; Sun, 4 Oct 1998 12:14:04 -0500 From: jeffmcarthur@home.com (Jeffrey McArthur) To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Re: Postscript vs. Encapsulated Postscript Date: Sun, 04 Oct 1998 17:02:37 GMT Organization: ATLIS Publishing Services Message-ID: <3617a884.218403@mail> References: <8525668D.0044D92D.00@keybank.com> <361746c4.1573358@mail> <36179CE0.FCE92989@earthlink.net> In-Reply-To: <36179CE0.FCE92989@earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id MAA19623 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== On Sun, 04 Oct 1998 11:05:57 -0500, you wrote: >One of our clients have an HP 890C Deskjet printer. Yes, we are having >difficulties printing a pdf file. How do you install postscript to your >HP printer? We have HP4SI's. You can buy an upgrade board from HP for them. Han't hekp you with the color, the HP4SIs are just black and white. I have a problem with my Epson 600 printer. If I use Acrobat 2.1, everything prints correctly. If I try to print the exact same file using the same printer driver, on the same computer, using Acrobat 3.01 horizontal bands of text do not get printed. Jeffrey M\kern-.05em\raise.5ex\hbox{\b c}\kern-.05emArthur a.k.a. Jeffrey McArthur ATLIS Publishing Services http://members.home.net/jeffmcarthur/ _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 4-Oct-1998 19:54:16-GMT,2066;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA00522 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 1998 13:54:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA16080; Sun, 4 Oct 1998 10:56:17 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 4 Oct 1998 10:55:19 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA15941; Sun, 4 Oct 1998 10:55:17 -0500 Message-ID: <36179CE0.FCE92989@earthlink.net> Date: Sun, 04 Oct 1998 11:05:57 -0500 From: Scottie X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Re: Postscript vs. Encapsulated Postscript References: <8525668D.0044D92D.00@keybank.com> <361746c4.1573358@mail> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== One of our clients have an HP 890C Deskjet printer. Yes, we are having difficulties printing a pdf file. How do you install postscript to your HP printer? We tried a program call Photoscript. Photoscript worked almost perfect. The only problem that is left is the color brightness. We lost a lot of color. We thinking about trying Stylescript another add on software. You help is appreciated Sir Speedy Printing New Iberia LA Scottie _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 4-Oct-1998 19:54:17-GMT,3476;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA00529 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 1998 13:54:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA14248; Sun, 4 Oct 1998 10:23:29 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 4 Oct 1998 10:19:52 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA13973; Sun, 4 Oct 1998 10:19:49 -0500 Message-ID: <000001bdefaa$31c64c80$f002e8c3@jonathan> From: "Compuserve Mail" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] FW: Colors of visited PDF links in Netscape (Acrobat Plug-in) Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1998 16:12:52 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Hi Rebecca, Here are two possible solutions. 1. In the Word document, just before you do the PDF conversion, do a global search & replace, replacing the style "Followed Hyperlink" with "Hyperlink". 2. If (1) doesn't solve your problem, then set the font color for the "Followed Hyperlink" style so that it is the same as the color for the "Hyperlink" style. Hope this helps Regards Jonathan West Multilinker - Automated generation of hyperlinks in Word Conversion to PDF & HTML http://www.multilinker.com -----Original Message----- From: Callaway, Rebecca To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: 01 October 1998 23:37 Subject: [PDF] FW: Colors of visited PDF links in Netscape (Acrobat Plug-in) > >====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== > > > ---------- >From: Callaway, Rebecca >To: 'Post to PDF listserve' >Subject: Colors of visited PDF links in Netscape (Acrobat Plug-in) >Date: Thursday, October 01, 1998 9:36AM > >Hi PDF-ers > >I am using a web publishing application that renders PDF and views in >the Acrobat Plug-in. These PDF's originate as WORD 97 documents with >hyperlinks, and the hyperlinks are also rendered active in the >distilling. When I display the document, I would like the links to >ALWAYS appear BLUE (unvisited) - - but at this point, most of them are >displaying black, since they have been visited (I'm assuming). > >Is there a way to set something so that all hyperlinks are always blue? > >thx - > >REbecca > >_______________________________________________________ > >-> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- >* http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * >+ Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + >_______________________________________________________ > > > _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 4-Oct-1998 19:54:18-GMT,4732;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA00535 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 1998 13:54:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA09529; Sun, 4 Oct 1998 08:40:33 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 4 Oct 1998 08:37:26 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA09367; Sun, 4 Oct 1998 08:37:24 -0500 Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1998 09:36:40 -0400 From: Michael Vorel Subject: Re: [PDF] Re: Postscript vs. Encapsulated Postscript To: "INTERNET:pdf@lists.pdfzone.com" Message-ID: <199810040937_MC2-5B82-6B54@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id IAA09357 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Message text written by INTERNET:pdf@lists.pdfzone.com >Avoid printing PDF files to HP printers unless they have postscript ... >>If at all possible, do not install ATM on a PC. >Why avoid printing PDF files to HP printers? Adobe provides a fix upgrade >3.01RA for printing PDFs to HP printers without PostScript. I tested this >upgrade and it solved our problems with printing screen captures within PDF >files. Of course, HP printers without PostScript do not print produce the >same quality as a true PostScript printer, but they're close. >The reason is speed and network traffic. The PCL file generated are huge >(try printing to file to see the size). The size of the file slows the >printing down. We have several HP printers. We have done the test where we >printed the same document to two different printers: one with postscript, >one without. The postscript printed about twice as fast. This was a major >issue with us since we were printing thousands of pages a day. (Actually we >did a LOT of testing on this. We had to justify to our corporate IS >department why we need to upgrade the printer to postscript. We had to run >the tests numerous times. We even had to move the printers to different >network connections to prove that it was not some problem with the network.) >So quality is not the issue, speed of printing is.< These are all valid points and I am surprised to see someone actually took the time to compare. Most firms usually don't. Other areas you need to consider: Do all the HP printers have the same RAM? If not, banding occurs and page creation is slowed down. How is memory allocated in the printerss. Many printers allow you to configure memory for spooling, Virt Mem, fonts, etc. How are fonts handled? Are they part of the printstream, converted to bitmap, substituted, converted to type "X" or merely called in the file? Which print driver is used for each printer? Is the PPD current? Is the print driver the latest & greatest? (HP is famous for slipstreaming fixes.) What is the CPU speed in each printer? Is the BIOS updated in each printer? (HP is famous for slipstreaming fixes.) Are the printers 600 or 300 dpi? The rule of thumb is 4MB RAM for one page at 300 DPI, B&W only. What is the network protocol for each printer? What is the default PDL for each printer? If the engine has to switch modes, this takes time. Different drivers create different print files, based on the OS that uses the driver. Many NT created files are smaller and more compact than Windows 95. Also, if you are measuring wall time, take into consideration how much spooling occurs during the process. Windows 95 on Novell servers is the worst. Windows NT 4.0 Workstation attached to NT 4.0 servers will reduce wall time. There are other areas that may help improve print time, but we are beginning to get into the esoteric areas. If you would like to review other possible options, please feel free to contact me directly. Michael Vorel Design Consultant Bowne Business Solutions 555 5th Ave New York, NY 10017 212-351-9019 mvorel@desi.net HTH michael _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 4-Oct-1998 20:47:49-GMT,2279;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA03571 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 1998 14:47:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA27490; Sun, 4 Oct 1998 15:28:09 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 4 Oct 1998 15:25:00 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA27256; Sun, 4 Oct 1998 15:24:59 -0500 Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1998 16:24:21 -0400 From: John Sharp <101503.432@compuserve.com> Subject: [PDF] PDFs from HLP files To: PDF Message-ID: <199810041624_MC2-5B84-DEF@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id PAA27251 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== There is an easy way to work with HLP files and get them back to text in Word, which then you can use to create a PDF. This facility is available in the latest version of RoboHelp. They have a discssion group at: http://www.blue-sky.com/techsupp/discuss.htm and searchable archives at: http://www.documentation.com/winlists/robolist.htm which also includes help on launching PDFs fron HLP files. John Sharp Watford, England -------------------------------------------------------------- >Date: Fri, 02 Oct 1998 09:24:17 PDT >From: "x x" >Subject: [none] >Hello! >I will like to know if there is any way to transform a HLP file into a PDF. >Thanks a lot >Juan Gonzalez _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 5-Oct-1998 4:46:19-GMT,2435;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA06747 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 1998 22:46:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA14044; Sun, 4 Oct 1998 23:29:00 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 4 Oct 1998 23:25:36 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA13935; Sun, 4 Oct 1998 23:25:35 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Wraight, David D." To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] RE: Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 12:28:55 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== probably the best way to do that is to Convert the HLP file into an RTF (search for HLP2RTF). And then you can print the RTF (from Within Word) directly to PDF. If you don't have the PDFWriter, you can print to a Postscript file and then use something like Ghostscript to turn the Postscript file into a PDF file. > ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== > > Hello! > > I will like to know if there is any way to transform a HLP file into a > > PDF. > Thanks a lot > > Juan Gonzalez > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > _______________________________________________________ > > -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- > * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * > + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + > _______________________________________________________ > _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 26-Sep-1998 4:21:26-GMT,2836;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA11265 for ; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 22:21:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA23463; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 23:04:07 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 25 Sep 1998 23:02:43 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA23331; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 23:02:40 -0500 X-Sender: wadsond@pop3.air.on.ca (Unverified) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199809251217.FAA19993@sun630mp.infomania.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 18:25:26 -0500 To: pdf-prepress-l@infomania.com From: David Wadson Subject: [PDF] Type 3 Font Problem Solved! Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Hooray! A thousand thanks to Samantha Bailey for steering me to the answer. I never found it in the Adobe tech database because I only searched for "Type 3 Fonts" rather than "Acrobat and Quark and Type 3 Fonts". As the database points out, which I didn't clue into, the problem on occurs when PDFing colour separations from QuarkXPress. It doesn't happen if you are making a composite PDF. Anyways, the problem occurs if you have type that traps to a colour behind it. I guess Quark and Acrobat generate those Type 3 fonts to create the trapping amount. If you set your text to either overprint or knockout the background, the Type 3 fonts are not created in your document. Thankfully, because we print onto newsprint, trapping is not a big concern for us - we have so much dot gain we should probably have negative traps if anything! If we were trying to print really high quality separations this could be a problem for us. After a really exhausting week at work trying to keep everything working smoothly this is a real spirit booster...too bad I have to wait until Monday to tell my co-workers that I solved the problem. I wonder if my tech support company will pay me for the solution... David Wadson (wadsond@air.on.ca) Graphic Designer & Systems Assistant The Chronicle-Journal _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 2-Oct-1998 1:29:44-GMT,2923;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA06409 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 19:29:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA17294; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 20:02:14 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 1 Oct 1998 20:00:15 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA17116; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 20:00:11 -0500 Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 18:00:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Mornini Message-Id: <199810020100.SAA03662@sun630mp.infomania.com> To: pdf-l@emrg.com, tmornini@sun630mp.infomania.com Subject: [PDF] ANNOUNCE - PDF in Prepress mailing list! Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== I am pleased to announce pdf-prepress-l. Earlier there were several messages on pdf-l indicating that people would prefer a separate mailing list for PDF use in prepress. I suggested that I could help, or perhaps run myself, a list for PDF use in high-end prepress environments. Response was very positive, so I decided to put back on my list manager hat, and set up a new list. The name of the list is pdf-prepress-l and it is located at InfoMania Printing and Prepress, a PostScript prepress house in Sacramento, CA. It is handled on a Sun server system, with the latest version of the free mailing list manager, Majordomo. To subscribe to the list, send e-mail to: In the body of the message, enter the text: subscribe pdf-prepress-l or subscribe pdf-prepress-d The second entry will get you a digested version of the list, which sends out a message once 200 lines of pdf-prepress-l accumulate. The list is setup to keep archives. I will put up a web interface to the archives later, but in the meantime they can be accessed as described in the Majordomo help file, which can be mailed to you by sending e-mail to: In the body of the message, enter the text: help and you will get a file describing all you need to know as a member of pdf-prepress-l and/or pdf-prepress-d. Thank you. I will send this announcement to pdf-l once a week to let newcomers know of this development. -- Tom Mornini -- InfoMania _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 5-Oct-1998 13:43:18-GMT,2056;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA16155 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 07:43:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA32029; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 08:26:21 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 5 Oct 1998 08:25:29 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA31968; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 08:25:27 -0500 From: "MCS" To: Subject: [PDF] Stack Fault errors in 98 Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 08:26:29 -0500 Message-ID: <000001bdf063$c2c104a0$523e5fcc@archetyp> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <36179CE0.FCE92989@earthlink.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Anyone using Pagemaker 6.5 on Windows 98 to export to PDF? I am getting repeated Stack fault in kernel32 errors. Hoses my whole system when it happens. I can print to PDF and distill but the options are much more limited there and I can't do LZW compression on the screen captures I am using. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Kevin Jackson Triskelian Design archetyp@mcs.com _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 5-Oct-1998 13:43:18-GMT,6030;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA16156 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 07:43:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA31284; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 08:13:04 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 5 Oct 1998 08:10:32 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA31114; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 08:10:30 -0500 Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 09:09:05 -0400 From: Michael Vorel Subject: Re: [PDF] Re: Postscript vs. PCL To: "INTERNET:pdf@lists.pdfzone.com" Message-ID: <199810050909_MC2-5B94-F75A@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id IAA31110 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== >We narrowed the test down to creating two files, one PCL, the other >Postscript. Then we connected each printer directly to the parallel port of >the PC. The PC was booted up in Dos 6.22. The files were printed using the >standard dos print command. Our IS department swapped the Postscript board >from one printer to the other and tested it that way. They added and took >away memory. Basically our IS department tried every test they could think >of to prove that we did not need the Postscript board. In the end, we >proved our point and got the postscript board. This is the worst way to test printers for productivity. This is also the slowest method for connectivity outside of Serial @ 9600 >Unfortunately our IS department then fell in love with Postscript and the >next printer we got was a QMS 2060. You cannot believe the hell we went >through testing that beast. The QMS is very fast; but very, very, very >picky and it was designed for someone fixated on security. When you connect >a QMS to your network, and it logs in, the first thing it does is change all >the passwords it has access to. What this means is if you buy a QMS network >printer and something goes wrong with it and you have to have it replaced, >you cannot just unplug the bad one and plug in the good one. You have to >have your network adminstrator go through and zap all the passwords that the >QMS changed. This was a nightmare when we were trying to evaluate different >models of the QMS. You would plug one in, get it working, and then run the >tests. Befor you could test the next model, we had to have the network >administrator go in and zap all the passwords that the QMS had set. This is >fully documented in the QMS manual. Personally I think it is a bug, (I like >the definition of a bug as this: if you can turn it off and on its a >feature, if you can't, its a bug; you cannot turn the security features on t>he QMS off, so it is a bug.) >If you do get a QMS 2060 and you want to print a lot of postscript, you need >to make sure that QMS configures it correctly. The default configuration >from QMS is wrong! You will not get the speed the printer is capable of. >We found this out by testing all of their different models. I believe you >want to have the same configuration as the QMS 2064. The software and the >hardware for the 2060 and 2064 are identical. The 2064 has a few more >options and is a lot more expensive. If you get all the memory settings and >configuration parameters from the 2064 and set the 2060 with those same >parameters there is no difference in printing speed between the 2060 and the >2064. If you don't, then the 2064 prints about 25% faster. >Personally, I don't like the QMS. It is not very reliable. In less than a >year we have had to have quite a bit of service done to the QMS and it is >still not reliable. Right now it gets into this weird "waiting on end of >input state". The only way to fix it is to turn it off, wait at least 30 >seconds, then turn it back on. We found out the hard way you MUST wait 30 >seconds. The QMS has some "unusual" features in its operating system. If >you turn the QMS off, and then back on too quickly, the QMS will reformat >its hard disk. This is another one of those questionable features that are >actually documented in the QMS manual. What you have described above leads me to believe the network you are using is Novell. Many of the "problems" you describe are a result of connectivity to Novell services. I have configured many QMS printers and improved the speed and reliability with proper configurations. QMS has not been consistent with their documentation. If you change print services from Novell to NT and use lpr/lpd or use the lpr/lpd services on Novell, many of your connectivity and security problems will go away. You will also see improved services by moving to NT for printing. There are ways to "fix" the input state by managing the closing communications from the queue. I do not have any more QMS printers in my lab, they are all in production now at various offices and client sites. Because of the QMS features/quirks, it is best to troubleshoot these nuances with available printers, not merey be process or configuration oriented. Please contact me if you think I can offer any other opinions or ideas to help you. HTH michael Michael Vorel Bowne Business Solutions mvorel@desi.net _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 5-Oct-1998 15:19:39-GMT,2523;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA18486 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 09:19:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA04161; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 09:46:30 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 5 Oct 1998 09:45:06 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA04050; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 09:45:03 -0500 From: lp5@chrysler.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: CHRYSLER To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <85256694.0050EF8D.00@lngodd02.notes.chrysler.com> Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 10:44:19 -0400 Subject: Re: [PDF] Acrobat files not opening from the Web... SOMETIMES! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== > Has anyone else come across this problem of files sometimes opening and > sometimes not. I'm not sure if it's a browser problem or in the way people > are making the files within our company. > We intermittently experience the "white page of death", too. Personally, I believe this symptom has multiple causes. Our Web group resolved one occurance by configuring the Netscape Web (AIX) server software to "Web Publishing OFF". But we still see the blank page syndrome occasionally. The problem PDF file will open ok with Reader 3.x or Exchange 3.x - but presents a blank page when opened using Reader as a plug-in to Netscape 4.x. We've been wondering if the PDF file gets 'corrupted' during the process of FTPing it to the Web server?? Or maybe it's a network problem as suggested by others? I don't believe it is related to page size or complexity. This appears to be a fairly common intermittent problem amongst users. Adobe - can you help us out here?? I'm hoping to learn how to avoid this problem. - Linda _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 5-Oct-1998 16:21:24-GMT,2561;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA20072 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 10:21:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA09213; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 10:54:34 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 5 Oct 1998 10:49:49 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA08855; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 10:49:45 -0500 Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 11:49:39 -0400 Message-Id: <199810051549.LAA01355@typeface.susq.com> From: Jan Jackson To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Txt -> PS -> PDF on the fly... Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== I bet you this would work in Netscape. We also send pdf dynamically to the browser, which works fine in Netscape 3 & 4, but not in IE. I found the following in the Acrobat Reader v.3.01 readme file: "Internet Explorer 3.0 will not display a PDF file accessed by an URL which does not end in .pdf or .PDF." In our case, we used a cgi, the name of which ended up in the Location Bar. We changed it to just open an actual file which fixed the problem in IE. However, I just revisited the perl script and it is working at this minute in both IE3 and IE4! So, I'm now wondering if what I was really suffering from is the "White Page of Death." Let me know if you find out anything else, and I'll keep you posted as well. I would like to have this working reliably in IE. Jan jjackson@susq.com >From jmcginn@dtedi.wpafb.af.mil (John McGinn) ---------- > Our problem is in trying to stream the PDF file back to the user. My CGI >script, written in CShell script, returns "Content-type: application/pdf\n\n", >and then the output of the ghostscript should be going directly to standard >output, aka the web browser. My browser (IE4.0/AcrobatReader3.01) does >not seem to retrieve it properly. > _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 5-Oct-1998 17:26:15-GMT,2435;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA21824 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 11:26:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA13603; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 11:58:46 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 5 Oct 1998 11:57:16 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA13452; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 11:57:14 -0500 From: "MCS" To: Subject: [PDF] Adding text to a screen capture Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 11:58:09 -0500 Message-ID: <000001bdf081$544e31a0$523e5fcc@archetyp> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <000001bdf063$c2c104a0$523e5fcc@archetyp> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== I seem to have solved (worked around) the stack fault errors by setting a PDF style up on a file that wasn't crashing and then using it in the file that was. Next problem is screen captures that I'd like to add some dropped in text to. If I add them in a Photo program the NEW text looks grainir than normal. If I add it in Corel only one of them prints well and the one that does looks horrid in PDF. Any ideas?? Kevin Jackson Triskelian Design archetyp@mcs.com _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 5-Oct-1998 19:08:05-GMT,1782;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA24633 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 13:07:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA20251; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 13:40:48 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 5 Oct 1998 13:39:26 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA20099; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 13:39:25 -0500 Message-ID: <3618DA48.2759630@iname.com> Date: Mon, 05 Oct 1998 14:40:11 +0000 From: Steve Adler X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 (Macintosh; U; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "pdf@lists.pdfzone.com" Subject: [PDF] PShop to PDF quality Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Hi I am trying to create the highest quality PDFs using PS Printer 8.3.1 on a Mac for Portfolios. I am using PShop 5.0. Any procedural help or experiences would be appreciated. It is for Art Student Portfolios Thanks in advance _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 5-Oct-1998 19:38:57-GMT,2143;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA25369 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 13:38:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA22530; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 14:19:40 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 5 Oct 1998 14:18:16 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA22448; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 14:18:14 -0500 Message-Id: From: "Callaway, Rebecca" To: "'Post to PDF listserve'" Cc: Adobe - Dov Isaacs Subject: [PDF] Adding PS Level 1 device Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 12:17:00 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.993.5 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Hi - I'm having aproblem filtering in an EPS with a preview to an application (Interleaf 5) that indicates it wants Postscript level 1. I have the PS 4.2.3 for Windows 95 driver. When I try to add a printer with a 4.1 version, it says it can't copy older files onto newer files. Is there a way to run both Postscript drivers? Is there another approach here? Does the PPD matter (HP LJ 4 or 5) for Level 1 or Level 2? The printers I have already installed do not allow me to change the Postscript level from 2 to 1. I get a message that minimum is 2, maximum is 2. Thx - Rebecca _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 5-Oct-1998 21:10:18-GMT,2959;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA27922 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 15:10:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA28496; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 15:49:32 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 5 Oct 1998 15:48:12 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA28423; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 15:48:10 -0500 Message-ID: <36193F0E.6D25@archangel.net> Date: Mon, 05 Oct 1998 16:50:07 -0500 From: Shane Steinman Organization: ArchAngel Media Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] PShop to PDF quality References: <3618DA48.2759630@iname.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Steve Adler wrote: > I am trying to create the highest quality PDFs using PS Printer 8.3.1 on > a Mac for Portfolios. I am using PShop 5.0. Hi Steve, I have tried a number of things to get the best possible result from images within the context of PDF documents. When quality is the main issue, I usually make my JPEGS from Photoshop at the compression/ quality/resolution ratio that I like and then insert the JPEGs into Quark and Distill from there. Note: I turn off downsampling and compression in Distiller Job Options when pursuing this course. Why go to all of this trouble? No matter how I fiddled with the Job Options in Distiller, I couldn't get as fine a result as doing all the image processing in Photoshop. PS Printer 8.3.1 should be fine. However, dependent upon your colour setup, you might want to use Pshop 4 until you have a handle on what Pshop 5's new colour space, "sRGB", might do to your colour. Regards, Shane -- Shane Steinman Technical Director =================================================================== ArchAngel Media Inc. 555 Sheppard Ave. West, Suite 910 Toronto, Ontario, CANADA M3H 2R7 ================================= Tel. or Fax: (416) 410-6366 E-mail: shane@archangel.net Web: http://www.archangel.net _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 5-Oct-1998 22:32:20-GMT,2639;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA00271 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 16:32:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA00402; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 17:11:55 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 5 Oct 1998 17:10:48 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA00357; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 17:10:47 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Adding PS Level 1 device Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 23:03:33 +0100 Message-ID: <000601bdf0ac$bab66a40$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== > I'm having aproblem filtering in an EPS with a preview to an > application > (Interleaf 5) that indicates it wants Postscript level 1. > > I have the PS 4.2.3 for Windows 95 driver. When I try to add > a printer > with a 4.1 version, it says it can't copy older files onto > newer files. > > Is there a way to run both Postscript drivers? No. Adobe have abandoned level 1 support with a vengeance. This is, as you've spotted, extremely inconvenient if you want to use Adobe level 1 output devices. Your only options are to downgrade to 4.1, and lose new features/level 3 support; or to use the Microsoft driver. > > Is there another approach here? > > Does the PPD matter (HP LJ 4 or 5) for Level 1 or Level 2? The 4.2.x drivers reject a level 1 PPD. But let's not lose track of Acrobat here. When you export EPS from Acrobat the printer driver should not be involved (use Export EPS; not print). Aandi _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 5-Oct-1998 22:50:46-GMT,2407;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA00761 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 16:50:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA01744; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 17:38:57 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 5 Oct 1998 17:38:01 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA01670; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 17:38:00 -0500 Message-ID: <36194A07.E5714179@kiwi.futuris.net> Date: Mon, 05 Oct 1998 18:36:55 -0400 From: "Robert E. Moran" Organization: New world Ventures Ltd. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] PShop to PDF quality References: <3618DA48.2759630@iname.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== A better way to do this is to use Quark or Frame as the layout engine and LZW tiff output from Pshop. By doing that, you have much better control over how the document should look. HTH R. Moran Steve Adler wrote: > ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== > > Hi > I am trying to create the highest quality PDFs using PS Printer 8.3.1 on > a Mac for Portfolios. I am using PShop 5.0. > > Any procedural help or experiences would be appreciated. It is for Art > Student Portfolios > Thanks in advance > > _______________________________________________________ > > -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- > * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * > + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + > _______________________________________________________ _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 5-Oct-1998 23:39:58-GMT,1762;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA01856 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 17:39:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA03617; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 18:21:56 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 5 Oct 1998 18:20:33 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA03577; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 18:20:32 -0500 Message-ID: <19981005232014.6584.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [194.224.180.88] From: "x x" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] HLP to PDF Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 05 Oct 1998 16:20:14 PDT Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== OK, the problem is i have 80 hlp files that come from 80 RTF files of 125 pages each, with quite a lot of links. What i´m trying to do is to transform the HLP directly to PDF and KEEP the navigation lines to avoid doing all the links againg. Juan Gonzalez ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 6-Oct-1998 0:11:10-GMT,1919;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA02530 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 18:11:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA04949; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 18:51:00 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 5 Oct 1998 18:49:50 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA04866; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 18:49:49 -0500 Message-ID: <361968F3.C1478724@wanadoo.fr> Date: Tue, 06 Oct 1998 01:48:52 +0100 From: Michel Lausseur Organization: AAlto Consultant X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [fr] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "pdf@lists.pdfzone.com" Subject: [PDF] PDF title as windows banner Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== When displaying PDF files, I have noticed that some ones show their title as windows banner, instead of their file name. I am interested with this feature, the 2,000 files I have to display having such non-poetic name like "17352.pdf", while their "title field" has been automatically filled with their own title. How can I get that ? Michel Lausseur Aalto Consultant _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 6-Oct-1998 4:31:34-GMT,4797;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA07803 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 22:31:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA16480; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 23:15:38 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 5 Oct 1998 23:14:26 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA16371; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 23:14:25 -0500 Message-Id: <199810060414.VAA05653@mail-303.corp.Adobe.COM> X-Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated X-Division: Core Technology X-Department: Product Interoperability Analysis X-URL: X-Location: Remote (ISAACS_REMOTE) X-Sender: isaacs@mail-303 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.2 Date: Mon, 05 Oct 1998 21:13:59 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com, jeffmcarthur@home.com (Jeffrey McArthur) From: Dov Isaacs Subject: Re: [PDF] Re: Postscript vs. Encapsulated Postscript In-Reply-To: <361746c4.1573358@mail> References: <8525668D.0044D92D.00@keybank.com> <8525668D.0044D92D.00@keybank.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== At 10/4/98 03:19 AM , Jeffrey McArthur wrote: >>Why avoid using ATM on a PC???? > >Maybe it is just my very, very bad luck with ATM. The past three times I >have tried to install ATM to a PC bad things have happened. The last time >was the worst. We purchased a copy of ATM for Windows 95. I tried to >install it to my PC. During the install, my hard disk had an internal >explosion, literally; after we took the hard disk out of the PC you could >hear parts rattling around inside it. Since this was the THIRD PC that I >personally, had bad things happen to it while I was trying to install ATM, I >avoid ATM. The exploding hard disk was probably not caused by ATM; but I >was not going to try and prove it. Earlier attempts to install ATM had >caused PC's to become totally unstable. Every time I install ATM to a PC, >at a minimum we end up reformatting the hard disk within a month. > >The three PCs that I use on a daily basis do not have ATM installed. I have >never had to reinstall Windows 95 on any of the PCs without ATM loaded. >Every PC we have that gets ATM installed will end up having to have their >hard disk reformatted within a month. Something goes wrong and they can no >longer get to their email, or the network, or weird things happen. > >So unless I absolutely, positively need ATM, I avoid installing it if at all >possible. Jeffrey, As an employee of Adobe Systems, I am sorry to hear of your difficulty in using you computer during and/or after installation of Adobe Type Managager 4.0. Quite frankly, though, this software does not issue a 80x86 HCI instruction (Head Crash Immediate) to your disk. If your disk's time was up, in terms of lifetime, it is only coincidental that it occurred during an installation of ATM. There is nothing in the installation or operation of ATM that does anything different to a disk drive than would be done by any application program. In terms of other problems that you see, I would strongly suggest that you look at the drivers for your video cards. They are the greatest source of problems for ATM and any other system components that make use of display functions. When used on otherwise stable software configurations of Windows'95 or Windows'98, ATM 4.0 for Windows has displayed a very high level of stability, in some cases surpassing the stability of the built-in rasterizer for TrueType in Windows'95 ("smoothing" feature in TrueType in Windows'95 can crash system, for example). It is our experience that if you do have "ATM problems," you are only exposing other significant system problems (usually software and most often video and/or printer driver related), that if resolved, would yield much high overall system reliability, with or without ATM installed. So, ATM is really just a messanger of the state of your systems. Don't kill it for its messages to you! - Dov __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 6-Oct-1998 5:33:30-GMT,3934;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA09014 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 23:33:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA18846; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 00:17:45 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 6 Oct 1998 00:15:26 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA18751; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 00:15:24 -0500 Message-Id: <199810060514.WAA06688@mail-303.corp.Adobe.COM> X-Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated X-Division: Core Technology X-Department: Product Interoperability Analysis X-URL: X-Location: Remote (ISAACS_REMOTE) X-Sender: isaacs@mail-303 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.2 Date: Mon, 05 Oct 1998 21:57:27 -0700 To: "Callaway, Rebecca" From: Dov Isaacs Subject: [PDF] Re: Adding PS Level 1 device Cc: "'Post to PDF listserve'" In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== At 10/5/98 12:17 PM , Callaway, Rebecca wrote: >Hi - > >I'm having aproblem filtering in an EPS with a preview to an application >(Interleaf 5) that indicates it wants Postscript level 1. > >I have the PS 4.2.3 for Windows 95 driver. When I try to add a printer >with a 4.1 version, it says it can't copy older files onto newer files. > >Is there a way to run both Postscript drivers? > >Is there another approach here? > >Does the PPD matter (HP LJ 4 or 5) for Level 1 or Level 2? > >The printers I have already installed do not allow me to change the >Postscript level from 2 to 1. I get a message that minimum is 2, >maximum is 2. Effective with version 4.2.x, AdobePS no longer provides support for Level 1 PostScript printers. In terms of desktop and network laser printers, there have not been any Adobe PostScript printers that have shipped with Level 1 for approximately six years, well past both the depreciation period (for bean counters) and projected reasonable lifetime for these devices. In terms of high-end, imagesetter and high-speed network printers, Adobe PostScript Level 2 has been shipping for over five years (again past the normal product depreciation period). In the latter case, many of our OEMs did offer software upgrades from Level 1 to Level 2. You cannot run the AdobePS 4.1 and 4.2.x drivers simultaneously. LaserJet 4 and 5 are both Adobe PostScript Level 2 printers. Normally there would never be a good reason to pessimize performance of these printers by disabling Level 2 support. In terms of generating PostScript Level 1 EPS files, may I suggest the following roundabout method? Generate a good PDF file via the Distiller Assistant with PostScript Level 2. In Acrobat Exchange with the EPS/PS Export plugin, export PDF with preview and Level 1 options set. You can also export any embedded fonts as part of the EPS file. By the way, the EPS files generated in this manner are far superior in size and performance to most any way of generating same. - Dov __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 6-Oct-1998 5:39:23-GMT,3979;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA09081 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 23:39:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA19328; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 00:28:43 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 6 Oct 1998 00:27:54 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA19231; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 00:27:53 -0500 From: "Chris Bill" To: "PDF Lists" Subject: [PDF] Acrobat Search within IE4 browser Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 06:26:56 +0100 Message-ID: <000001bdf0e9$ef534560$75b0fea9@ctbill> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== I am attempting to create a CD-ROM which mirrors parts of our corporate Intranet. PDF collections have been indexed using Acrobat Catalogue. I would like to give my CD users the ability to search on the pdx files I have created, however when pdf files are displayed in the Acrobat Reader window within the Internet Explorer 4 browser window, the Acrobat Search button is not displayed. Adobe Technical Support's answer to this was to obtain and implement a web search engine on our intranet that could understand pdf. This seems to me to be a very expensive/difficult solution to what appears to me to be a small problem. Also I am not totally convinced that this would make my CD-ROMs any easier to create. As a work-around I have created two links within a pdf file that is dedicated to searching. The first link executes menu item - Tools - Search - Indexes. This brings up the window which allows the user to add the name of an index (*.pdx). I have tried to use the File - Document Info - Index function to nominate the relevant index but this also does not function within a browser window. The user selects the index I have described within the text of the dedicated search pdf file. The second link executes menu item - Tools - Search - Query. The user enters his query text string and clicks on search. This system works except for one small problem which hopefully someone can help me with... The search results window now displays all documents that in some way satisfy the search criteria. In normal circumstances, double clicking on one of the listed documents, causes it to be displayed. In this case - it is displayed, but not in the browser window where the dedicated search pdf document sits, but within the Acrobat Reader Window which normally sits quite happily in the background behind the browser. Q1. Is it possible to force this document to be displayed in the browser window? Q2. Is it possible to move the Acrobat Search Plugin API file to somewhere else that would allow the Acrobat Search button to be displayed within the browser window?... It's strange, but the next and previous search results buttons are displayed in the browser, but never active! Q3. Is there another way to achieve the same objective? Chris Bill Technical Author DEK __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 6-Oct-1998 5:39:36-GMT,4610;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA09089 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 23:39:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA19287; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 00:28:20 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 6 Oct 1998 00:27:21 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA19185; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 00:27:20 -0500 Message-Id: <199810060514.WAA06688@mail-303.corp.Adobe.COM> X-Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated X-Division: Core Technology X-Department: Product Interoperability Analysis X-URL: X-Location: Remote (ISAACS_REMOTE) X-Sender: isaacs@mail-303 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.2 Date: Mon, 05 Oct 1998 21:57:27 -0700 Old-To: "Callaway, Rebecca" From: Dov Isaacs Subject: [PDF] Re: Adding PS Level 1 device Cc: "'Post to PDF listserve'" In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com X-Loop: forwarded by miller@performancegraphics.com To: millercs@earthlink.net Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== At 10/5/98 12:17 PM , Callaway, Rebecca wrote: >Hi - > >I'm having aproblem filtering in an EPS with a preview to an application >(Interleaf 5) that indicates it wants Postscript level 1. > >I have the PS 4.2.3 for Windows 95 driver. When I try to add a printer >with a 4.1 version, it says it can't copy older files onto newer files. > >Is there a way to run both Postscript drivers? > >Is there another approach here? > >Does the PPD matter (HP LJ 4 or 5) for Level 1 or Level 2? > >The printers I have already installed do not allow me to change the >Postscript level from 2 to 1. I get a message that minimum is 2, >maximum is 2. Effective with version 4.2.x, AdobePS no longer provides support for Level 1 PostScript printers. In terms of desktop and network laser printers, there have not been any Adobe PostScript printers that have shipped with Level 1 for approximately six years, well past both the depreciation period (for bean counters) and projected reasonable lifetime for these devices. In terms of high-end, imagesetter and high-speed network printers, Adobe PostScript Level 2 has been shipping for over five years (again past the normal product depreciation period). In the latter case, many of our OEMs did offer software upgrades from Level 1 to Level 2. You cannot run the AdobePS 4.1 and 4.2.x drivers simultaneously. LaserJet 4 and 5 are both Adobe PostScript Level 2 printers. Normally there would never be a good reason to pessimize performance of these printers by disabling Level 2 support. In terms of generating PostScript Level 1 EPS files, may I suggest the following roundabout method? Generate a good PDF file via the Distiller Assistant with PostScript Level 2. In Acrobat Exchange with the EPS/PS Export plugin, export PDF with preview and Level 1 options set. You can also export any embedded fonts as part of the EPS file. By the way, the EPS files generated in this manner are far superior in size and performance to most any way of generating same. - Dov __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. 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Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 6-Oct-1998 7:14:52-GMT,3609;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA11067 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 01:14:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA21946; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 01:51:39 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 6 Oct 1998 01:50:26 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA21894; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 01:50:24 -0500 Message-ID: <3619CB86.AF684F94@wanadoo.fr> Date: Tue, 06 Oct 1998 08:49:26 +0100 From: Michel Lausseur Organization: AAlto Consultant X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [fr] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF title as windows banner References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Thanks David, it's OK ; no problem for automating this feature, as we have done with other settings and fields. This forum is really fantastic : one asks a question in the middle of the night, and, thanks to time difference, one gets the answer on waking up, with coffee and croissants ; none of the official support services is able to do that ! As for undocumented features, I suggest ADOBE for recruiting Kenneth Starr for writing most detailed online help : he will be soon free after completing his previous job. Wraight, David D. a écrit: > ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== > > Michel, > > There is a setting in the 'Open Preferences' to this to happen. > > File>Document Info> Open... > > Check 'Resize Window to Initial Page' and if you want the window to > appear in the centre of the screen use the 'Center Window on Screen' > > Enter your document title in the File>Document Info>General ... dialog > and then it will display (you'll probably need to save before it > works... > > Love those undocumented features.... Oh and BTW this has to be done for > each file (it's a PDF setting not an Acrobat setting). > > d....................... > ps. There are ways of automating this task. > > -------------------------------------- > > When displaying PDF files, I have noticed that some ones show their > > title as windows banner, instead of their file name. > > I am interested with this feature, the 2,000 files I have to display > > having such non-poetic name like "17352.pdf", while their "title > > field" > > has been automatically filled with their own title. > > How can I get that ? > > > > > > _______________________________________________________ > > -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- > * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * > + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + > _______________________________________________________ __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 6-Oct-1998 10:07:20-GMT,2883;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA14227 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 04:07:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA26934; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 04:27:35 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 6 Oct 1998 04:21:47 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA26733; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 04:21:45 -0500 From: Laura.Dietz@arcor.net X-Lotus-FromDomain: ARCOR To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 11:23:02 +0100 Subject: [PDF] PDF IFilter Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id EAA26729 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== ---------------------- Weitergeleitet von Laura Dietz/TIO_EXT/Eschborn/Arcor on 06.10.98 11:19 --------------------------- 06.10.98, 11:14 Telefon: extern (069) 21 69 57 20, Fax (069) 21 69 51 11 ___________________________________________________________________________ __________ ___________________________________________________________________________ __________ An: Laura Dietz/TIO_EXT/Eschborn/Arcor@Arcor Kopie: Thema: PDF IFilter Einstufung: Arcor-intern Hi, I need Information about the PDF IFilter for the MS Index Server 3.0. We only have the PDF IFilter 1.1 Beta Release ! On the Adobe Website "http://www.adobe.com/prodindex/acrobat/ifilter.html" is still no final Release and no further Information. Does some know when a Final Release will be shiped and where to get it ? thanks in Advance C.Binder =================================================================== Mannesmann Arcor AG & Co., Kölnerstr. 5, 65760 Eschborn =================================================================== Laura Dietz, TIO E-Mail: Laura.Dietz@arcor.net Phone: (069) 2169 - 5720, Fax: - 3939 =================================================================== For more information: http://www.arcor.net =================================================================== __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 6-Oct-1998 11:38:55-GMT,3707;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA15773 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 05:38:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA29962; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 06:02:50 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 6 Oct 1998 06:00:18 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA29853; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 06:00:16 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Re: Adding PS Level 1 device Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 11:29:44 +0100 Message-ID: <000101bdf118$3906d4a0$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <199810060514.WAA06688@mail-303.corp.Adobe.COM> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > > Effective with version 4.2.x, AdobePS no longer provides support > for Level 1 PostScript printers. In terms of desktop and network > laser printers, there have not been any Adobe PostScript printers > that have shipped with Level 1 for approximately six years, well > past both the depreciation period (for bean counters) and projected > reasonable lifetime for these devices. In terms of high-end, > imagesetter > and high-speed network printers, Adobe PostScript Level 2 has been > shipping for over five years (again past the normal product > depreciation > period). In the latter case, many of our OEMs did offer > software upgrades > from Level 1 to Level 2. > All of this is true, though the cost of imagesetters means that some people are still using very old devices, which continue to work well. Depreciation on presses may be - what? - 30 years? And you may have trouble convincing some people that they should throw away their pre-press equipment after five. But there is a more important point to this, which is why I wish this decision hadn't been made. Many people are still tied to level 1 WORKFLOWS for separation and trapping. That's even if they have the latest level 3 imagesetters; workflows are not discarded overnight. For instance, I believe Trapwise still, or until very recently, required level 1. Heck, even Illustrator 7.0 can't open level 2 files. And that's why I wish Adobe would reconsider this. But, I doubt it will happen while printer driver support is considered to be a part of, and financed by, output device sales. And then, if it isn't paid for by that, who is it paid for by? (oops, mustn't use a preposition to end a sentence with). I have a follow-on question, which someone may know the answer to. The NT5 PostScript driver is based on Adobe's AdobePS5 driver, I understand. Does that mean that NT5 will have no level 1 PostScript support at all? If so, there will be interesting days ahead. Aandi __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 6-Oct-1998 13:59:21-GMT,1794;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA18340 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 07:59:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA04031; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 08:34:25 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 6 Oct 1998 08:31:15 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA03816; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 08:31:13 -0500 From: Laurie_Coyne@mail.amsinc.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: AMSINC To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <85256695.0049EB97.00@ams-central-gate-5a.amsinc.com> Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 09:24:26 -0400 Subject: [PDF] Running PDF documents from CD ROM Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== I will be storing PDF documents on CD-ROM and want the users to access the files directly. Can the PDF viewer run directly from CD. Please let me know the install procedures or any other pertinent info I will need to get this task completed. Thank You __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 6-Oct-1998 16:12:27-GMT,2194;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA21797 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 10:12:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA12415; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 10:48:06 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 6 Oct 1998 10:44:31 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA12121; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 10:44:30 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Running PDF documents from CD ROM Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 16:31:07 +0100 Message-ID: <000301bdf13f$ee486f00$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <85256695.0049EB97.00@ams-central-gate-5a.amsinc.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > I will be storing PDF documents on CD-ROM and want the users > to access the > files directly. Can the PDF viewer run directly from CD. > Please let me > know the install procedures or any other pertinent info I > will need to get > this task completed. Thank You No, it may not be run from CD. This is specifically forbidden by the redistribution license, which means you can only redistribute the Adobe installers. Aandi __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 6-Oct-1998 16:57:03-GMT,2534;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA23054 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 10:56:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA14553; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 11:26:36 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 6 Oct 1998 11:20:59 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA14202; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 11:20:57 -0500 Message-ID: From: Becky Mellinger To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Running PDF documents from CD ROM Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 09:20:28 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== What if all the files are installed on the CD, then the Reader is run from the CD? How does this violate the license? Nothing has been changed, and all the licensing statements are with the software. Becky > ---------- > From: Aandi Inston[SMTP:quite@dial.pipex.com] > Reply To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 1998 8:31 AM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: RE: [PDF] Running PDF documents from CD ROM > > > ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > > > > I will be storing PDF documents on CD-ROM and want the users > > to access the > > files directly. Can the PDF viewer run directly from CD. > > Please let me > > know the install procedures or any other pertinent info I > > will need to get > > this task completed. Thank You > > No, it may not be run from CD. This is specifically forbidden > by the redistribution license, which means you can only > redistribute the Adobe installers. > > Aandi > > > __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 6-Oct-1998 17:17:20-GMT,4029;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA23699 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 11:17:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA16992; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 12:00:55 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 6 Oct 1998 11:58:45 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA16804; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 11:58:44 -0500 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19981006165839.00d95550@env-sol.com> X-Sender: thiersch@env-sol.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 06 Oct 1998 09:58:39 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Tom Thiersch Subject: RE: [PDF] Running PDF documents from CD ROM Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Becky, It would appear that, in your scheme, if you do not use the Adobe installer, the end-user never has to agree to the terms and conditions of the Adobe license agreement; this is the one of the very first questions asked during the installation, and it's there to protect Adobe's legal rights. I would seek advice from counsel before attempting that kind of trick; even then, are you really prepared to defend a suit, just to avoid a 5-minute install? ...doesn't sound like a real good idea to me. Several people have expressed concerns that their users/customers might not do the installation correctly. I can understand that, given that there are now several separate pieces needed to set up a fully functional Reader: 3.01 base + PCL fix + OCX + forms + QT + ??? But if users won't follow the setup instructions (which I assume you provide in a README), then you will have bigger problems to worrying about. The Acrobat Reader is a demanding piece of software. It is not possible to just walk up and start using it productively without first reading the Help and the Search Help files. 90% of the support calls I get are from people who are just too lazy to read the doc, or who are simply unable understand it (in which case, using the Reader productively will always be beyond their abilities anyway). Tom Thiersch At 09:20 AM 10/6/98 -0700, you wrote: > >====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > >What if all the files are installed on the CD, then the Reader is run > from the CD? How does this violate the license? > >Nothing has been changed, and all the licensing statements are with the >software. > >Becky > >> ---------- >> From: Aandi Inston[SMTP:quite@dial.pipex.com] >> Reply To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com >> Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 1998 8:31 AM >> To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com >> Subject: RE: [PDF] Running PDF documents from CD ROM >> >> >> ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== >> >> >> > I will be storing PDF documents on CD-ROM and want the users >> > to access the >> > files directly. Can the PDF viewer run directly from CD. >> > Please let me >> > know the install procedures or any other pertinent info I >> > will need to get >> > this task completed. Thank You >> >> No, it may not be run from CD. This is specifically forbidden >> by the redistribution license, which means you can only >> redistribute the Adobe installers. >> >> Aandi >> __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 6-Oct-1998 17:32:39-GMT,3384;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA24028 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 11:32:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA16750; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 11:57:34 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 6 Oct 1998 11:54:36 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA16484; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 11:54:34 -0500 Message-Id: <199810061654.IAA04087@alaska.net> Subject: RE: [PDF] Running PDF documents from CD ROM Date: Tue, 6 Oct 98 08:53:22 -0800 x-sender: explore@mailhost.alaska.net x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v2, June 6, 1997 From: Scarp Exploration To: "pdf lists" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Becky, It can't be done. This has been discussed at great length over time. I believe an archive exists where you can read about this to your hearts content. This has also been discussed in the usenet group periodically, and dejanews would have that discussion in its archives. If you don't believe "us" I respectfully suggest that you call Adobe, or have your lawyer call Adobe, and discuss it with them. > >====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > >What if all the files are installed on the CD, then the Reader is run > from the CD? How does this violate the license? > >Nothing has been changed, and all the licensing statements are with the >software. > >Becky > >> ---------- >> From: Aandi Inston[SMTP:quite@dial.pipex.com] >> Reply To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com >> Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 1998 8:31 AM >> To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com >> Subject: RE: [PDF] Running PDF documents from CD ROM >> >> >> ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== >> >> >> > I will be storing PDF documents on CD-ROM and want the users >> > to access the >> > files directly. Can the PDF viewer run directly from CD. >> > Please let me >> > know the install procedures or any other pertinent info I >> > will need to get >> > this task completed. Thank You >> >> No, it may not be run from CD. This is specifically forbidden >> by the redistribution license, which means you can only >> redistribute the Adobe installers. >> >> Aandi >> >> >> > >__________________________________________________________ > >-> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- >*** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** >+ For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + >__________________________________________________________ > __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 6-Oct-1998 17:32:47-GMT,4236;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA24032 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 11:32:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA17729; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 12:13:43 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 6 Oct 1998 12:11:28 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA17557; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 12:11:27 -0500 Message-ID: <8D98F19E9EBAD1118D3900A0C96CC00EF172CB@nnse8.nns.com> From: "Nosil, Chris" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Running PDF documents from CD ROM Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 13:08:01 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== >Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 09:20:28 -0700 >From: Becky Mellinger >Subject: RE: [PDF] Running PDF documents from CD ROM > >====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > >What if all the files are installed on the CD, then the Reader is run > from the CD? How does this violate the license? > >Nothing has been changed, and all the licensing statements are with the >software. IMO this is a very grey area within the licensing agreement and there have been numerous responses saying you can't do it but provide no alternative solution. Here is what I did for my CD's. (NOTE this is for Window OS only since I know that is only OS my Cds will run under) Problem: With newer versions of Adobe the software requires several system files reside in the Windows Operating system directory (versions prior to 3.0 were capable of running off the CD). Because of this "problem" you have to install something. In theory any method of installing any portion of the software and not using the Adobe install violates the following portion of the license: Although you may customize the installer for the Software as documented on the Adobe Acrobat Reader CD-ROM (e.g., installation of additional plug-in and help files), you may not otherwise alter or modify the installer program or create a new installer for the Software. Solution: Adobe gives you the answer in this statement. You can modify the installer as documented on the Acrobat Reader CD. One of the options is a silent install that allows you to completely customize how and where it is installed. What I did was develop a front end that displayed a list of all the PDF documents contained on the CD. When the user selected a document I attempted to launch the document based on Windows file extension associations. If the document had an association Adobe should have been previously installed. If not I perform a silent Adobe installation and then launch the document when the install is complete. Not a perfect solution, but I thing it should work at least 95% of the time. Basic Pseudo code of my solution implemented using the C programming language (I know you could do this in VB or other languages): Get PDF file name Use the ShellExecute function to see if there is an association for PDF use the filename returned to launch the book. If no error all is good and document should be shown (check for launch error, reinstall if necessary) If error occurred during launch or no association found execute the setup program (16 or 32 bit based on OS version) When the install is complete use the shellexecute command to launch the book. Hopefully this helps you out. __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 6-Oct-1998 17:49:17-GMT,3081;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA24460 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 11:49:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA18753; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 12:33:11 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 6 Oct 1998 12:30:32 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA18584; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 12:30:31 -0500 Message-ID: <00ab01bdf14f$bc32d400$b73670c2@win95> From: "Peter Mathews" To: Subject: [PDF] Title in Windows banner Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 18:29:39 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Michel Lasseur said:- When displaying PDF files, I have noticed that some ones show their title as windows banner, instead of their file name. I am interested with this feature, the 2,000 files I have to display having such non-poetic name like "17352.pdf", while their "title field" has been automatically filled with their own title. How can I get that ? There is the feature as documented on this list, but it does have one unfortunate side effect - the documents, and therefore the Acrobat viewing area, does keep resizing itself, which can be very annoying. There is also the annoying "bug" that makes the documents creep "northwest" as you open more documents, eventually losing the top panel, and the menu bars. We wrote a plug-in for internal use,which allows you to display the title without having to apply the dreaded "size document to centre of screen" option. This applies to all documents opened in Acrobat with the plug-in loaded. We are willing to resell it, so, if you need any details, let me know. Peter Mathews. -- /// --- /// --- // Computerstream Limited -- // // // // -- // Sutton Executive Centre - // + -- // + // Two Duke Street // + // + // Sutton Coldfield --// // --// // // West Midlands B72 1RJ, UK -- /// /// -- /////// Tel: (+44) (0) 121 362 1930 Fax: (+44) (0) 121 362 1881 www.computerstream.co.uk/computerstream __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 6-Oct-1998 18:00:42-GMT,1678;000000000001 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA24651 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 11:56:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id MAA30692 for pdftex-list; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 12:40:26 -0400 Received: from smtp02.wxs.nl (smtp02.wxs.nl [195.121.6.60]) by tug.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA30689 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 12:40:24 -0400 Received: from wxs.nl ([195.121.20.194]) by smtp02.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.6) with ESMTP id AAA5604; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 18:40:16 +0200 Message-ID: <361A2F1C.15B7AA53@wxs.nl> Date: Tue, 06 Oct 1998 15:54:20 +0100 From: Hans Hagen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jiri Osoba CC: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: PDF encryption References: <199810060802.KAA17707@samba.intra.jablotron.cz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk Jiri Osoba wrote: > I have an (may be stupid) idea: What about adding encryption to > pdfTeX to secure informations in PDF? Yes, but let's wait for the pdf 3 specs. We need some access to internal datastructures too, and this could best fit into a consistent scheme. Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | mail: pragma@wxs.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- 6-Oct-1998 18:54:57-GMT,2742;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA26167 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 12:54:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA22360; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 13:33:23 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 6 Oct 1998 13:31:44 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA22230; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 13:31:42 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Livingston, Thomas S" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Running PDF documents from CD ROM Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 11:30:06 -0700 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Where are the Adobe installers that we can redistribute? Can it be put on a CD-ROM or are we limited to telling the client an internet address where to get the software? The license says that : You may make and distribute unlimited copies of the Software, including copies for commercial distribution, as long as each copy that you make and distribute contains this Agreement, the Acrobat Reader installer, and the same copyright and other proprietary notices pertaining to this Software that appear in the Software. If you download the Software from the Internet or similar on-line source, you must include the Adobe copyright notice for the Software with any on-line distribution and on any media you distribute that includes the Software. If we downloaded the software from the internet, can we distribute the Reader with our media and without the installer as long as we include the license? Tom Livingston FlightSafety Boeing > >> > >> No, it may not be run from CD. This is specifically forbidden > >> by the redistribution license, which means you can only > >> redistribute the Adobe installers. > >> > >> Aandi > >> __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 6-Oct-1998 20:42:45-GMT,2136;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA29890 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 14:42:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA26302; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 14:46:53 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 6 Oct 1998 14:44:35 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA26173; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 14:44:34 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Running PDF documents from CD ROM Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 20:40:14 +0100 Message-ID: <000101bdf161$77ed3d00$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > Where are the Adobe installers that we can redistribute? Can > it be put > on a CD-ROM or are we limited to telling the client an > internet address > where to get the software? When you got Acrobat, you should also have received the Reader CDROM. You can use anything from that. Even if you've lost it, there are installers on the 3.0/3.01 CDROM. Aandi __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 6-Oct-1998 21:44:12-GMT,2152;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA01682 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 15:44:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA31470; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 16:22:37 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 6 Oct 1998 16:21:18 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA31395; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 16:21:17 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19981006173039.00834a50@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 06 Oct 1998 17:30:39 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: RE: [PDF] Running PDF documents from CD ROM In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== At 09:20 AM 10/6/98 -0700, you wrote: > >====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > >What if all the files are installed on the CD, then the Reader is run > from the CD? How does this violate the license? > >Nothing has been changed, and all the licensing statements are with the >software. > But in all likelihood, it won't work. The various AcroStuff must be registered on a Windows system, and it takes an installer to do that. Steve Rindsberg/Prez RDP http://www.rdpslides.com __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 6-Oct-1998 23:36:48-GMT,2347;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA04328 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 17:36:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA04041; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 18:13:14 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 6 Oct 1998 18:11:34 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA03906; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 18:11:32 -0500 Message-ID: <361A441C.2E59@ix.netcom.com> Date: Tue, 06 Oct 1998 16:24:01 +0000 From: "L. Spear" X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0-C-AICK1-2 (Macintosh; U; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Drawing Error...Write Error? References: <000101bdf161$77ed3d00$0101c6c0@gateway> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== I am having trouble printing a pdf document that is a image only pdf document with an added text form field placed on it.. I get an error message that reads "The document could not be printed. A drawing error occurred which is probably due to an out-of-memory condition." After I press okay, I get "Write error." Anybody know how to combat this? What does this mean? This occurrs when I try to print a pdf that was created by combinning two or more single page pdf docs (Image only) , and adding a form field with text. What I am doing essentially is trying to make a note via a form field onto a pdf document and have it print out. Anybody out there know how to help me? I would appreciate any assistance. Thank you in advance, Lawrence Spear __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 7-Oct-1998 0:08:41-GMT,3340;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA05054 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 18:08:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA05725; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 18:52:02 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 6 Oct 1998 18:50:47 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA05663; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 18:50:46 -0500 Message-ID: From: Duff Johnson To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Drawing Error...Write Error? Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 16:55:08 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Are you printing to a PostScript printer? If so, this may be your problem... Open your PDF file in a text editor, look for the line: /ProcSet [/PDF /Text /ImageC /ImageI] If you don't see the "/Text" in here, your file will not print to a PS printer.... Image Only PDF files do not include the "/Text" tag by default, unfortunately.... Duff Johnson President, Document Solutions, Inc. > -----Original Message----- > From: L. Spear [mailto:londog@ix.netcom.com] > Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 1998 9:24 AM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: [PDF] Drawing Error...Write Error? > > > > ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > > I am having trouble printing a pdf document that is a image only pdf > document with an added text form field placed on it.. > > I get an error message that reads "The document could not be > printed. A > drawing error occurred which is probably due to an out-of-memory > condition." > > After I press okay, I get "Write error." > > Anybody know how to combat this? What does this mean? > > > This occurrs when I try to print a pdf that was created by combinning > two or more single page pdf docs (Image only) , and adding a > form field > with text. > > What I am doing essentially is trying to make a note via a form field > onto a pdf document and have it print out. Anybody out there > know how to > help me? > > I would appreciate any assistance. > > Thank you in advance, > > Lawrence Spear > > __________________________________________________________ > > -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- > *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** > + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + > __________________________________________________________ > __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 7-Oct-1998 0:22:51-GMT,2347;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA05376 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 18:22:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA06277; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 19:03:07 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 6 Oct 1998 19:02:13 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA06202; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 19:02:10 -0500 X-Sender: prodok@pop.eunet.ch Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 01:39:25 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Max Wyss Subject: RE: [PDF] Running PDF documents from CD ROM Cc: Becky Mellinger Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Becky, Read the licence terms and condition very well. It does state the installer. Besides that, the Reader installer installs system resources which Reader needs. So, in order to run Reader properly, you will need an installation anyway. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering AG Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch WWW: http://www.prodok.ch/prodok Bridging the Knowledge Gap ______________________ >What if all the files are installed on the CD, then the Reader is run > from the CD? How does this violate the license? > >Nothing has been changed, and all the licensing statements are with the >software. > >Becky > __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 7-Oct-1998 0:30:41-GMT,1982;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA05558 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 18:30:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA07066; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 19:19:01 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 6 Oct 1998 19:17:50 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA06966; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 19:17:48 -0500 Message-ID: <000801bdf187$bfb91a20$330d9fcf@default> From: "Jim and Marguerite Ripley" To: Subject: [PDF] EXCHANGE PREVIOUS VIEW BUTTON Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 17:16:03 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2120.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2120.0 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Using Exchange. When utilizing links between different PDF files, the back to previous view button ( << ) does not return to the immediate previous view without being activated several times. With links within the same file the previous view button works normally. Anyone with a clue as to why? Is their a workaround? __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 6-Oct-1998 3:15:18-GMT,2504;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA06263 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 21:15:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA12989; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 21:55:34 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 5 Oct 1998 21:53:56 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA12868; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 21:53:54 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Wraight, David D." To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] PDF title as windows banner Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 10:59:41 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: The PDFzone - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== Michel, There is a setting in the 'Open Preferences' to this to happen. File>Document Info> Open... Check 'Resize Window to Initial Page' and if you want the window to appear in the centre of the screen use the 'Center Window on Screen' Enter your document title in the File>Document Info>General ... dialog and then it will display (you'll probably need to save before it works... Love those undocumented features.... Oh and BTW this has to be done for each file (it's a PDF setting not an Acrobat setting). d....................... ps. There are ways of automating this task. -------------------------------------- > When displaying PDF files, I have noticed that some ones show their > title as windows banner, instead of their file name. > I am interested with this feature, the 2,000 files I have to display > having such non-poetic name like "17352.pdf", while their "title > field" > has been automatically filled with their own title. > How can I get that ? > > _______________________________________________________ -> NEW - searchable archive of the PDF discussion list <-- * http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ * + Acrobat PDF Webring http://www.pdfzone.com/webring/ + _______________________________________________________ 7-Oct-1998 3:58:35-GMT,2289;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA09834 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 21:58:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA15848; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 22:41:30 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 6 Oct 1998 22:40:21 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA15806; Tue, 6 Oct 1998 22:40:20 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Wraight, David D." To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Running PDF documents from CD ROM Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 11:45:49 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Wouldn't it be possible to do a SNAP of the system before installing Acrobat Reader and then a SNAP after and only use those files as your update. (Using the SYSDIFF program) BUT, as the agreement says - it MUSt contain the license agreement, so my advice would be to use a Splash Screen displaying the Agreement with YES/NO buttons accepting/rejecting the terms of the agreement.... Comments?? ------------------------------------------ > Becky, > > Read the licence terms and condition very well. It does state the > installer. > > Besides that, the Reader installer installs system resources which > Reader > needs. So, in order to run Reader properly, you will need an > installation > anyway. > > > __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 7-Oct-1998 8:14:40-GMT,2109;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA15034 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 02:14:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA24130; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 02:54:07 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 7 Oct 1998 02:52:21 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA24043; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 02:52:19 -0500 X-Sender: branskat@suege.fernuni-hagen.de Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Encoded: Changed encoding from 8bit for 7bit transmission Date: Sat, 7 Oct 1989 09:51:49 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Sonja Branskat Subject: [PDF] changing properties of *all* links Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id CAA24038 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Is there a simple way to edit the magnification of the destination of *all* links in a document: e.g. from ´fixed´ to ´inherit zoom´ and otherwise keeping the destination unchanged (that is the page the bookmark or link links to) ? Any ideas? s Sonja Branskat Lehrgebiet Praktische Informatik II FernUniversität Hagen 58084 Hagen Germany +49 (02331) 987 2845 sonja.branskat@fernuni-hagen.de __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 7-Oct-1998 10:29:32-GMT,3499;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA17510 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 04:29:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA28383; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 05:08:06 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 7 Oct 1998 05:05:21 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA28281; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 05:05:19 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Running PDF documents from CD ROM Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 08:59:15 +0100 Message-ID: <000901bdf1d9$b516a7c0$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > > Wouldn't it be possible to do a SNAP of the system before installing > Acrobat Reader and then a SNAP after and only use those files as your > update. (Using the SYSDIFF program) > > BUT, as the agreement says - it MUSt contain the license > agreement, so > my advice would be to use a Splash Screen displaying the > Agreement with > YES/NO buttons accepting/rejecting the terms of the agreement.... Have you actually read the redistribution license. I have two points to add (a) guessing what you might get away with is futile unless you have made a detailed reading of the license; (b) if you think you have found a loophole, you should realise that this clearly isn't what Adobe intended. So, are you so confident of your position that you would be ready to defend yourself against Adobe's lawyers. Before 3.0 Adobe did not have this restriction. Now they do, and I consider it very sensible. Here's why: installing Acrobat may differ from system to system, for instance depending on what is already there, whether ATM is installed, and other factors that Adobe do not document. In attempting to second guess this, people may end up with a crippled version of Acrobat, which does not work on the full range of available systems (even within the platform they've chosen to support). Or, it may work for the specific CDROM application but won't be complete (e.g. it won't support double clicking a PDF file or viewing PDF files in a browser), causing user confusion because they think they have a copy of Reader. So, this is bad for the person producing the CDROM image. But it is worse for Adobe, because they get the blame for Acrobat Reader not working. I don't see why they should tolerate that. Aandi __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 7-Oct-1998 17:02:45-GMT,2714;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA26195 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 11:02:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA16547; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 11:34:54 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 7 Oct 1998 11:29:07 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA16075; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 11:29:04 -0500 From: sabahat_ashraf@mentorg.com (Sabahat Ashraf) Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 12:28:54 -0400 Message-Id: <9810071628.ZM18916@danm> In-Reply-To: "Aandi Inston" "RE: [PDF] Running PDF documents from CD ROM" (Oct 7, 8:59am) References: <000901bdf1d9$b516a7c0$0101c6c0@gateway> X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.1 10oct95) To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] How would one edit PDF's in Maker5.5 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== [NOTE: Posting something similar to the Frame list] A manager wants to know whether he can import PDF file into Frame 5.5. [Given all the other wunnerful things it can do. ;-)] I don't think it be done directly, right? What's your favourite path for that? Thanks. sorry for being brusque and not doing my research myself too thoroughly before I posted this. Sabahat. -- [Sabahat I. Ashraf] Technical Writer / Course Developer Mentor Graphics Corporation. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Ceci tuera cela. [This will destroy that.] Priest in Victor Hugo's _Notre Dame de Paris_ pointing from a printed book to the cathedral. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- work: (908) 604 0880 home: (201) 287 1405 fax: (908) 604 0901 work: sabahat_ashraf@mentorg.com home: ashrafs@juno.com 735 Elm Ave Apt 5B, Teaneck, NJ 07666-2313 http://www.rpi.edu/~ashrafs __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 7-Oct-1998 17:14:08-GMT,2924;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA26508 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 11:13:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA18606; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 12:01:04 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 7 Oct 1998 12:00:02 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA18438; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 11:59:58 -0500 Message-Id: <199810071659.JAA22212@smtp4.nwnexus.com> X-Sender: lmead@mail.cognosinc.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Wed, 07 Oct 1998 09:56:26 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Lynn Mead Subject: [PDF] Named Destinations Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== I am working on a project that consists of several hundred Parts, Operation and Maintenance manuals in PDF format. These files are being published on CD. To aid the end user in locating manuals we have created a Master Table of Contents PDF that lists all the files with a description and a link to the corresponding PDF. Each PDF has then had a link added which will take the user back to the Master Table of contents to the page the where the originating link was. In other words, if the manual description was on page 4 of the TOC and the user opens the corresponding manual PDF, and then uses the link in the manual to go back to the TOC he will end up back on page 4. This works great until we have to update the TOC for the next edition, in which case manuals are added and deleted possibly changing their page location in the TOC. Then we have to check all the links in the manuals to make sure they are going back to the coreect page in the TOC. Since the TOC is created in FrameMaker 5.53, I would like to add named destinations for all the manuals (this I know how to do) and then in the links back to the TOC in each manual use a javascript to jump to those named destinations. Is this possible and can anyone give me advise with writing such a script? Thanks in advance for your help. Lynn Mead Desktop Connexion, Inc. 425-271-9717 lmead@cognosinc.com __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 7-Oct-1998 17:17:10-GMT,2036;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA26630 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 11:16:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA19031; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 12:04:57 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 7 Oct 1998 12:04:07 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA18929; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 12:04:03 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19981007131328.0090ea00@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 07 Oct 1998 13:13:28 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: RE: [PDF] Running PDF documents from CD ROM In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== >Wouldn't it be possible to do a SNAP of the system before installing >Acrobat Reader and then a SNAP after and only use those files as your >update. (Using the SYSDIFF program) > That'll tell you what files need to be copied, yes, but it still won't register those that need it. Sounds like a recipe for a mess to me. Steve Rindsberg/Prez RDP http://www.rdpslides.com __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 7-Oct-1998 17:36:51-GMT,4240;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA27157 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 11:36:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA19424; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 12:08:29 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 7 Oct 1998 12:07:36 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA19313; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 12:07:33 -0500 From: "Scott Hamlow" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Named Destinations Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 10:08:56 -0700 Message-ID: <000001bdf215$2b4c5620$fba1fecc@scotth.fourgen.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2232.26 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <199810071659.JAA22212@smtp4.nwnexus.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Using Frame's variables and named destinations, you can have a unique, but changeable, named destination for each manual that you could jump to regardless of where they are within the PDF. Is this what you're trying to do? --------------------------- Scott Hamlow Technical Writer Endura Software Corporation Seattle, Washington USA http://www.enduracorp.com mailto:scott.hamlow@enduracorp.com 206.517.6487 --------------------------- > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com [mailto:owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com]On > Behalf Of Lynn Mead > Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 1998 9:56 AM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: [PDF] Named Destinations > > > > ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > > I am working on a project that consists of several hundred Parts, > Operation > and Maintenance manuals in PDF format. These files are being published on > CD. To aid the end user in locating manuals we have created a Master Table > of Contents PDF that lists all the files with a description and a link to > the corresponding PDF. Each PDF has then had a link added which will take > the user back to the Master Table of contents to the page the where the > originating link was. In other words, if the manual description > was on page > 4 of the TOC and the user opens the corresponding manual PDF, and > then uses > the link in the manual to go back to the TOC he will end up back > on page 4. > This works great until we have to update the TOC for the next edition, in > which case manuals are added and deleted possibly changing their page > location in the TOC. Then we have to check all the links in the manuals to > make sure they are going back to the coreect page in the TOC. > Since the TOC > is created in FrameMaker 5.53, I would like to add named destinations for > all the manuals (this I know how to do) and then in the links back to the > TOC in each manual use a javascript to jump to those named > destinations. Is > this possible and can anyone give me advise with writing such a script? > > Thanks in advance for your help. > > Lynn Mead > Desktop Connexion, Inc. > 425-271-9717 > lmead@cognosinc.com > > > __________________________________________________________ > > -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- > *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** > + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + > __________________________________________________________ > > __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 7-Oct-1998 18:40:25-GMT,4029;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA28854 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 12:39:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA24585; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 13:20:04 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 7 Oct 1998 13:18:12 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA24385; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 13:18:04 -0500 Message-ID: <361B50CA.6DBF@ix.netcom.com> Date: Wed, 07 Oct 1998 11:30:21 +0000 From: "L. Spear" X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0-C-AICK1-2 (Macintosh; U; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Drawing Error...Write Error? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Duff Johnson wrote: > > ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > > Are you printing to a PostScript printer? If so, this may be your > problem... > > Open your PDF file in a text editor, look for the line: > > /ProcSet [/PDF /Text /ImageC /ImageI] > > If you don't see the "/Text" in here, your file will not print to a PS > printer.... > > Image Only PDF files do not include the "/Text" tag by default, > unfortunately.... > > Duff Johnson > President, Document Solutions, Inc. > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: L. Spear [mailto:londog@ix.netcom.com] > > Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 1998 9:24 AM > > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > > Subject: [PDF] Drawing Error...Write Error? > > > > > > > > ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > > > > I am having trouble printing a pdf document that is a image only pdf > > document with an added text form field placed on it.. > > > > I get an error message that reads "The document could not be > > printed. A > > drawing error occurred which is probably due to an out-of-memory > > condition." > > > > After I press okay, I get "Write error." > > > > Anybody know how to combat this? What does this mean? > > > > > > This occurrs when I try to print a pdf that was created by combinning > > two or more single page pdf docs (Image only) , and adding a > > form field > > with text. > > > > What I am doing essentially is trying to make a note via a form field > > onto a pdf document and have it print out. Anybody out there > > know how to > > help me? > > > > I would appreciate any assistance. > > > > Thank you in advance, > > > > Lawrence Spear > > > > __________________________________________________________ > > > > -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- > > *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** > > + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + > > __________________________________________________________ > > > > __________________________________________________________ > > -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- > *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** > + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + > __________________________________________________________ Dear Duff, Negative on trying to print to a PS printer. Thank you for your response. Best regards, Lawrence Spear __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 7-Oct-1998 19:55:43-GMT,2475;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA00934 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 13:55:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA29868; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 14:35:10 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 7 Oct 1998 14:33:33 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA29690; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 14:33:31 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] How would one edit PDF's in Maker5.5 Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 18:48:47 +0100 Message-ID: <000001bdf229$18575740$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <9810071628.ZM18916@danm> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > A manager wants to know whether he can import PDF file into > Frame 5.5. [Given > all the other wunnerful things it can do. ;-)] I don't think > it be done > directly, right? What's your favourite path for that? Not in Frame. Overall there are no good solutions for editing bodies of text in a PDF file. None at all. Some tools make a stab at exporting the text, but not the layout; or the layout, in such a way that the text is not all that easy to edit. None are ideal. They will do if you have no choice and no access to original files. This question almost always indicates a deep misunderstanding of what PDFs are good for, and what they are bad for. Think of PDF as a read-only format. Three words: edit your originals. Aandi __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 7-Oct-1998 19:55:44-GMT,3262;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA00935 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 13:55:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA30453; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 14:43:48 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 7 Oct 1998 14:43:00 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA30375; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 14:42:59 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Livingston, Thomas S" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Drawing Error...Write Error? Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 12:41:24 -0700 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== You may want to turn on the Don't Print property for the form field (look under Field Properties - Apperance). The field won't print, but the document most likely will. Tom Livingston 757/767 Flight Training FlightSafety Boeing M/S 20-87 (206) 662-7774 > ---------- > From: L. Spear[SMTP:londog@ix.netcom.com] > Reply To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 1998 9:24 AM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: [PDF] Drawing Error...Write Error? > > > ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > > I am having trouble printing a pdf document that is a image only pdf > document with an added text form field placed on it.. > > I get an error message that reads "The document could not be printed. > A > drawing error occurred which is probably due to an out-of-memory > condition." > > After I press okay, I get "Write error." > > Anybody know how to combat this? What does this mean? > > > This occurrs when I try to print a pdf that was created by combinning > two or more single page pdf docs (Image only) , and adding a form > field > with text. > > What I am doing essentially is trying to make a note via a form field > onto a pdf document and have it print out. Anybody out there know how > to > help me? > > I would appreciate any assistance. > > Thank you in advance, > > Lawrence Spear > > __________________________________________________________ > > -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- > *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** > + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + > __________________________________________________________ > __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 7-Oct-1998 22:01:46-GMT,3213;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA04199 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 16:01:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA05845; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 16:41:50 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 7 Oct 1998 16:38:54 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA05652; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 16:38:53 -0500 Message-ID: <004201bdf23a$b24170a0$1f40dec2@demon.co.uk> From: "Nic Plum" To: Subject: [PDF] Separating Acrobat Indexes? Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 22:19:06 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.0518.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.0518.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== I'm going to be building a CD ROM with mixed HTML and PDF content. To ease our customers problems the content is segregated into 2 major parts according to the highest classification found (so that they can, if they wish just load either the lower category or both parts depending on their network capability). If I make just one index using Catalog I assume that it will build in content from both halves which might therefore mean that it would take on the highest classification and have to be placed in the higher classified half? Does this then mean that I'd have to index both halves separately? If so how can I either link the indexes such that a "find" in Reader will search both? Is there another way to ensure that irrespective of whether he loads just the lower classified part or all of it that he will be able to search an index that operates on the right set of documents? Could I, for example, link the Acrobat file to both indexes and it not then worry if it couldn't find one of them? Cheers. Nic. _____________________________________________________________________ Buckden, < www.nplum.demon.co.uk/temptin/ > Huntingdon, For information management and Cambs, Adobe Acrobat integration from UK. within your favourite PE18 9SZ wordprocessor Fax: National 0870 0547328 International +44 870 0547328 _____________________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 7-Oct-1998 22:05:41-GMT,4346;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA04329 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 16:05:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA06722; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 16:55:14 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 7 Oct 1998 16:54:18 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA06633; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 16:54:17 -0500 Message-ID: <361B8376.4189@ix.netcom.com> Date: Wed, 07 Oct 1998 15:06:33 +0000 From: "L. Spear" X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0-C-AICK1-2 (Macintosh; U; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Drawing Error...Write Error? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Livingston, Thomas S wrote: > > ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > > You may want to turn on the Don't Print property for the form field > (look under Field Properties - Apperance). The field won't print, but > the document most likely will. > > Tom Livingston > 757/767 Flight Training > FlightSafety Boeing > M/S 20-87 > (206) 662-7774 > > > ---------- > > From: L. Spear[SMTP:londog@ix.netcom.com] > > Reply To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > > Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 1998 9:24 AM > > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > > Subject: [PDF] Drawing Error...Write Error? > > > > > > ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > > > > I am having trouble printing a pdf document that is a image only pdf > > document with an added text form field placed on it.. > > > > I get an error message that reads "The document could not be printed. > > A > > drawing error occurred which is probably due to an out-of-memory > > condition." > > > > After I press okay, I get "Write error." > > > > Anybody know how to combat this? What does this mean? > > > > > > This occurrs when I try to print a pdf that was created by combinning > > two or more single page pdf docs (Image only) , and adding a form > > field > > with text. > > > > What I am doing essentially is trying to make a note via a form field > > onto a pdf document and have it print out. Anybody out there know how > > to > > help me? > > > > I would appreciate any assistance. > > > > Thank you in advance, > > > > Lawrence Spear > > > > __________________________________________________________ > > > > -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- > > *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** > > + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + > > __________________________________________________________ > > > > __________________________________________________________ > > -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- > *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** > + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + > __________________________________________________________ Dear Tom, Thank you for your input. I am a bit confused as to why you suggest that I select the "Don't Print" property for the form field that I do want to print. Could you please elaborate? I do know that if I do not have the form fields in the document that I can print, no problem. However I am just trying to find a simple, inexpensive, and effective way to modify an existing pdf file by adding a little text over an image. Thanks for your response. Best regards, Lawrence Spear Specialty Valve & Fitting Co. __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 7-Oct-1998 22:25:35-GMT,1758;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA04888 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 16:25:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA07943; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 17:14:24 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 7 Oct 1998 17:13:22 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA07850; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 17:13:21 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Livingston, Thomas S" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Drawing Error...Write Error? Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 15:11:48 -0700 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Lawrence, I understand your confusion. In my haste of saying "I can help on this one," I neglected to read ALL of your posting. My apologies. Tom Livingston FSB __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 7-Oct-1998 22:52:57-GMT,2248;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA05554 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 16:52:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA09031; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 17:31:44 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 7 Oct 1998 17:30:43 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA08972; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 17:30:41 -0500 Message-ID: <361B8C03.15@ix.netcom.com> Date: Wed, 07 Oct 1998 15:43:04 +0000 From: "L. Spear" X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0-C-AICK1-2 (Macintosh; U; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Drawing Error...Write Error? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Livingston, Thomas S wrote: > > ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > > Lawrence, > > I understand your confusion. In my haste of saying "I can help on this > one," I neglected to read ALL of your posting. My apologies. > > Tom Livingston > FSB > > __________________________________________________________ > > -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- > *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** > + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + > __________________________________________________________ No sweat, Tom. Thanks anyways. __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 7-Oct-1998 23:57:45-GMT,1831;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA07132 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 17:57:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA12660; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 18:39:56 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 7 Oct 1998 18:38:34 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA12531; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 18:38:31 -0500 Message-ID: <361C8830.22DA277@realworld.com.au> Date: Thu, 08 Oct 1998 09:38:59 +0000 From: Dean Laffan X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "pdf@lists.pdfzone.com" Subject: [PDF] Reader 3.02 ? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== I have just received a Download.com email touting Reader 3.02. Is this correct ? I can't find 3.02 on the Adobe site, I'm presuming ddc have got it wrong or is this the maintenance release with all the patches ? Dean Real World __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 8-Oct-1998 1:13:05-GMT,3186;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA08667 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 19:13:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA16120; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 19:55:48 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 7 Oct 1998 19:54:27 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA16018; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 19:54:25 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Wraight, David D." To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Running PDF documents from CD ROM Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 08:59:11 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Aandi, The suggestion I made was simply that - a suggestion! Don't shoot me down for simply contributing ideas to the forum - because that's why we have this forum; to exchange ideas. ---------------------------------------------- > Have you actually read the redistribution license. > > I have two points to add > > (a) guessing what you might get away with is futile unless you > have made a detailed reading of the license; > > (b) if you think you have found a loophole, you should realise that > this clearly isn't what Adobe intended. So, are you so confident > of your position that you would be ready to defend yourself > against Adobe's lawyers. > > > Before 3.0 Adobe did not have this restriction. Now they do, and I > consider it very sensible. Here's why: installing Acrobat may differ > from system to system, for instance depending on what is already > there, whether ATM is installed, and other factors that Adobe do > not document. In attempting to second guess this, people may end up > with a crippled version of Acrobat, which does not work on the full > range of available systems (even within the platform they've chosen > to support). Or, it may work for the specific CDROM application but > won't be complete (e.g. it won't support double clicking a PDF file > or viewing PDF files in a browser), causing user confusion because > they think they have a copy of Reader. > > So, this is bad for the person producing the CDROM image. But it is > worse for Adobe, because they get the blame for Acrobat Reader not > working. I don't see why they should tolerate that. > > Aandi __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 8-Oct-1998 1:28:25-GMT,2507;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA08932 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 19:28:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA17237; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 20:17:45 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 7 Oct 1998 20:16:49 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA17143; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 20:16:48 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Wraight, David D." To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] How would one edit PDF's in Maker5.5 Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 09:21:26 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Sabahat, The latest version of Framemaker - Version 5.5.6 WILL allow you to import PDF's directly into the program - at this stage it's not known how much functionality is available once you have the PDF inside FM. Illustrator on the other hand WILL open a PDF and let you edit the text and also the graphics, and then allow you to save the changes! You'll need version 7.0 to do this. Note: Version 5.5.3 of FM doesnt have this functionality. > ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > > [NOTE: Posting something similar to the Frame list] > > A manager wants to know whether he can import PDF file into Frame 5.5. > [Given > all the other wunnerful things it can do. ;-)] I don't think it be > done > directly, right? What's your favourite path for that? > > Thanks. sorry for being brusque and not doing my research myself too > thoroughly > before I posted this. > > Sabahat. > > __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 8-Oct-1998 2:35:02-GMT,3382;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA10226 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 20:35:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA20339; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 21:13:55 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 7 Oct 1998 21:12:38 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA20275; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 21:12:37 -0500 Message-ID: <361C2E1D.2352@archangel.net> Date: Wed, 07 Oct 1998 22:14:37 -0500 From: Shane Steinman Organization: ArchAngel Media Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] How would one edit PDF's in Maker5.5 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Wraight, David D. wrote: > > Illustrator on the other hand WILL open a PDF and let you edit the text > and also the graphics, and then allow you to save the changes! You'll > need version 7.0 to do this. Just one caveat to the post on editing PDF files in Illustrator 7.0... You will need the EXACT fonts available on the machine with Illustrator as were used to make the PDF in the first place. Otherwise, all fonts that Illustrator considers "unfamiliar" will become the application's default font - Helvetica. In order for Illustrator to interpret the PDF file, it must un-embed the fonts from that page. On the other hand, if this is not a problem, Illustrator makes an excellent tool for editing these files. Eg. If you open up a 20 page PDF file in Illust. 7, it will ask you which page you wish to open. Once you open it and edit the page and ask the application to save, it inserts it back into the PDF file where you got it from. HOWEVER, the fonts are not embedded now. If you wish to re-embed the fonts, you will have to export a PostScript file from Exchange and run it through Distiller again - with all the necessary fonts from the edited page still available on your machine. A bit confusing, I admit, but I hope it helps. Regards, Shane -- Shane Steinman Technical Director =================================================================== ArchAngel Media Inc. 555 Sheppard Ave. West, Suite 910 Toronto, Ontario, CANADA M3H 2R7 ================================= Tel. or Fax: (416) 410-6366 E-mail: shane@archangel.net Web: http://www.archangel.net __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 8-Oct-1998 2:43:12-GMT,2117;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA10343 for ; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 20:43:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA21306; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 21:31:54 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 7 Oct 1998 21:31:04 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA21268; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 21:31:03 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <361C8830.22DA277@realworld.com.au> Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 21:33:14 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Kurt Foss Subject: Re: [PDF] Reader 3.02 ? Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Yes, the v.3.02 Readers apparently *are* available, but so far only *without* Search, it seems. Find them at: ftp://ftp.adobe.com/pub/adobe/acrobatreader/mac/3.x/ ftp://ftp.adobe.com/pub/adobe/acrobatreader/win/3.x/ ftp://ftp.adobe.com/pub/adobe/acrobatreader/unix/3.x/ ftp://ftp.adobe.com/pub/adobe/acrobatreader/os2/3.x/ rgds ~ Kurt === At 4:38 AM -0500 10/8/98, Dean Laffan wrote: I have just received a Download.com email touting Reader 3.02. Is this correct ? I can't find 3.02 on the Adobe site, I'm presuming ddc have got it wrong or is this the maintenance release with all the patches ? __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 8-Oct-1998 7:26:34-GMT,3121;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA15984 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 01:26:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA32762; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 02:06:24 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 8 Oct 1998 02:05:04 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA32667; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 02:05:00 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com, xpicard@hotmail.com Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 23:59:59 +0000 Subject: [PDF] Re: pdf-digest for October-6-98 [V2 #338] Message-ID: <19981008.000002.3326.0.dcmah@juno.com> References: <199810061620.LAA14219@everglades.binc.net> X-Mailer: Juno 1.49 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0-10,13-14,20,25-26,28-31 From: dcmah@juno.com (Dennis C Lee) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== >Date: Mon, 05 Oct 1998 16:20:14 PDT >From: "x x" >Subject: [PDF] HLP to PDF > >OK, the problem is i have 80 hlp files that come from 80 RTF files of >125 pages each, with quite a lot of links. >What i´m trying to do is to transform the HLP directly to PDF and KEEP >the navigation lines to avoid doing all the links againg. > >Juan Gonzalez This is a difficult problem. Here's my guess at how to do it (although you'll probably get some ugly results, maybe not even functional; test, test, test): 1. Convert the decompiled .HLP file (the HPJ, RTF, and any graphic files) into HTML/Win98 Help using Microsoft's HTML Help Workshop (www.helpmaster.com will have a link to the download site). (There may be other free HLP->HTML or RTF->HTML utilities out there, too. Check the archives of the comp.[something...].winhelp newsgroup or the WinHlp-L mailing list.) 2. Convert the HTML files to PDF, links retained, using MS Word with Acrobat and the PDFMaker plugin. There are also some freeware HTML->PDF or HTML->PS + PS->PDF (batch?) utilities, but the one I tried had some bugs in it (its name was HTMLDoc, I believe; it thought that angle brackets that were meant to be seen were HTML tags). If this doesn't work, how about telling your boss that this can't be done? Good luck, Dennis ________________________________________________________________ Get secure free e-mail that you don't need Web access to use from Juno, the world's second largest online service. Download your free software at http://www.juno.com/getit.b.html. __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 8-Oct-1998 12:29:49-GMT,2277;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA21062 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 06:29:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA10904; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 06:57:16 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 8 Oct 1998 06:55:38 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA10820; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 06:55:36 -0500 Message-ID: <361D34DB.4022A23C@realworld.com.au> Date: Thu, 08 Oct 1998 21:56:13 +0000 From: Dean Laffan X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Separating Acrobat Indexes? References: <004201bdf23a$b24170a0$1f40dec2@demon.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Hi Nic, Here's my understanding of your situation, other posters feel free to step in and correct me if neccessary! Reader 3.01 does not support ataching more than one index per pdf, I am currently downloading Reader 3.02 as I write this post so I can't speak for that version yet. If I understand your post, you need to attch two indexes for a pdf file to search on/in ? Our workaround for this in the past is to open to a *splash screen* and you assign an index to attach to that file, then you assign a second index to the *real* pdf file and Reader will maintain both Indexes in which to search. HTH Dean Real World __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 8-Oct-1998 13:22:06-GMT,2774;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA22236 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 07:21:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA13749; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 07:52:54 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 8 Oct 1998 07:51:54 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA13666; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 07:51:52 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: KEYCORP From: "Karen L Mibus" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <85256697.00462A09.00@keybank.com> Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 08:48:44 -0400 Subject: Re: [PDF] Reader 3.02 ? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Does the Reader 3.02 for Windows include the OCX and PCL fixes, and the Forms Fill-In 3.5 plug-in? --Karen kfoss@pdfzone.com on 10/07/98 10:33:14 PM Please respond to pdf@lists.pdfzone.com To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com cc: (bcc: Karen L Mibus/NE/KSC/KeyCorp) Subject: Re: [PDF] Reader 3.02 ? ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Yes, the v.3.02 Readers apparently *are* available, but so far only *without* Search, it seems. Find them at: ftp://ftp.adobe.com/pub/adobe/acrobatreader/mac/3.x/ ftp://ftp.adobe.com/pub/adobe/acrobatreader/win/3.x/ ftp://ftp.adobe.com/pub/adobe/acrobatreader/unix/3.x/ ftp://ftp.adobe.com/pub/adobe/acrobatreader/os2/3.x/ rgds ~ Kurt === At 4:38 AM -0500 10/8/98, Dean Laffan wrote: I have just received a Download.com email touting Reader 3.02. Is this correct ? I can't find 3.02 on the Adobe site, I'm presuming ddc have got it wrong or is this the maintenance release with all the patches ? __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 8-Oct-1998 13:39:56-GMT,2479;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA22557 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 07:39:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA14438; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 08:03:22 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 8 Oct 1998 08:00:57 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA14256; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 08:00:56 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Separating Acrobat Indexes? Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 13:51:03 +0100 Message-ID: <000d01bdf2bb$67556de0$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <361D34DB.4022A23C@realworld.com.au> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > Reader 3.01 does not support ataching more than one index per > pdf, I am > currently downloading Reader 3.02 as I write this post so I > can't speak > for that version yet. I don't have a correction, but a clarification. It isn't Reader that attaches indexes, but the AutoIndex plug-in, which is included with Reader+Search. The same plug-in, used with Exchange, allows an index to be attached to a file. The Exchange version stores the index name into a PDF, in a set place. When the Reader version sees a file is being opened, it looks in that same place. If an index name is found it starts the search engine (if necessary) and attaches that one index. I have not heard of any plans to extend this function to more indexes. Aandi __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 8-Oct-1998 14:52:23-GMT,1739;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA24109 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 08:52:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA19819; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 09:24:46 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 8 Oct 1998 09:22:58 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA19677; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 09:22:56 -0500 Message-Id: <199810081422.KAA13975@massmutual-bh.massmutual.com> From: "Linda Bajumpaa" To: Subject: [PDF] Old Plug-in -- Acrobat Access32 Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 10:19:56 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Does anyone know where I can get the plug-in Access32 (the version that would allow for exporting from a PDF into text or PS? __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 8-Oct-1998 15:40:28-GMT,2088;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA25264 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 09:40:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA23226; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 10:15:07 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 8 Oct 1998 10:14:08 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA23128; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 10:14:07 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Old Plug-in -- Acrobat Access32 Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 16:11:55 +0100 Message-ID: <001201bdf2ce$035181e0$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <199810081422.KAA13975@massmutual-bh.massmutual.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > > Does anyone know where I can get the plug-in Access32 (the > version that > would allow for exporting from a PDF into text or PS? For information on the accessability plug-ins and other facilities for Acrobat see http://access.adobe.com. I don't think it exports to PS, though, there is an ExportPS plug-in for that. Aandi __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 8-Oct-1998 17:00:13-GMT,2399;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA27258 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 11:00:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA28231; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 11:34:30 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 8 Oct 1998 11:30:58 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA27972; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 11:30:56 -0500 From: "David Cornwell" To: "PDF mailing list - technical" Subject: [PDF] PDF with many pages --> individual tiffs Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 17:34:53 +0100 Message-ID: <003f01bdf2d9$93edc460$0441a8c0@davec.docctrl.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2120.0 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Hi all does anyone know of a product which takes in a PDF file and outputs all the pages as individual tiff files. A key requirement is that the product be able to handle PDF which comprise of both text and image. Our client has trailed a product (not sure of name - didn't ring a bell) but it apparently falls over when PDF files are not image only! Thanks drc --- David Cornwell, Director - Business Development Computerised Document Control Ltd PO Box 5, Chepstow, Monmouthshire, NP6 6YU, United Kingdom Tel: + 44 (0) 1291 635 403 (direct) ; USA: 1-888-240-1752 Fax: + 44 (0) 1291 623 902 www.docctrl.com Forging the link between Document Systems and Acrobat __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 8-Oct-1998 18:09:14-GMT,2332;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA29038 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 12:07:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA32475; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 12:42:34 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 8 Oct 1998 12:41:14 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA32382; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 12:41:11 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19981008135044.00913b50@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 08 Oct 1998 13:50:44 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF with many pages --> individual tiffs In-Reply-To: <003f01bdf2d9$93edc460$0441a8c0@davec.docctrl.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > >does anyone know of a product which takes in a PDF file and outputs all the >pages as individual tiff files. A key requirement is that the product be >able to handle PDF which comprise of both text and image. Our client has >trailed a product (not sure of name - didn't ring a bell) but it apparently >falls over when PDF files are not image only! There are printer drivers for Windows at least that you can set up to create TIFFs, TGAs or any of several other bitmap formats at your choice of resolution. So long as the app and driver get on well, you should be in business. SuperPrint from Zenographics is one such beastie. Steve Rindsberg/Prez RDP http://www.rdpslides.com __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 8-Oct-1998 21:06:09-GMT,2125;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA03169 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 15:05:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA10911; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 15:46:41 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 8 Oct 1998 15:45:51 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA10844; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 15:45:49 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Livingston, Thomas S" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Reader 3.02 ? Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 13:44:03 -0700 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Does anyone know whether the v3.02 Reader for Windows can be used on Windows 3.1? I've installed it on a Win95 machine. Thanks! Tom Livingston FSBTI Kurt Foss wrote . . . Yes, the v.3.02 Readers apparently *are* available, but so far only > *without* Search, it seems. > > Find them at: > > ftp://ftp.adobe.com/pub/adobe/acrobatreader/mac/3.x/ > > ftp://ftp.adobe.com/pub/adobe/acrobatreader/win/3.x/ > > ftp://ftp.adobe.com/pub/adobe/acrobatreader/unix/3.x/ > > ftp://ftp.adobe.com/pub/adobe/acrobatreader/os2/3.x/ > > __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 8-Oct-1998 21:06:15-GMT,2855;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA03177 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 15:06:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA10324; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 15:39:12 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 8 Oct 1998 15:37:36 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA10226; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 15:37:32 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 17:37:36 -0400 From: "Jack Petrisin" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Re: pdf-digest for October-8-98 [V2 #340] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id PAA10221 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== RE: Accessing PDFs within and intranet Sorry in advance for the long post. We're interested in determining what it would take to make a few hundred linked PDF documents (text only) available on an intranet. Currently, we distribute the documentation on CD-ROM. However, we've had multiple organizations requesting information on implementing the documentation on an intranet. As a result, we're trying to determine what the best approach would be: 1) To open the documents within the browser window, using the Reader plug in 2) To open the documents in the Acrobat Reader, called as a helper application from the browser 3) Convert the documents to HTML, and put them on the intranet in that form Also, if you implemented option 1, would the existing links work? The files include a mix of relative (i.e., where the entire path isn't included in the link) and absolute (i.e., where the entire path is included) links. Also with option 1, is the search capability limited to just searching the open document, or is there a way of using the indices created with Catalog? You can either respond to the list or to me directly at petrisjs@cbs.fiserv.com. Thanks in advance, Jack Petrisin __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 8-Oct-1998 22:17:34-GMT,2861;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA04784 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 16:17:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA15025; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 16:51:08 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 8 Oct 1998 16:49:32 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA14886; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 16:49:30 -0500 Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF with many pages --> individual tiffs Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 15:50:36 -0700 x-sender: dennisw@mail.inpractice.net x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: Dennis Walker To: "PDF Mail List" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-ID: <1304260660-51959148@mail.inpractice.net> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Steve Rindsberg (steve@rdpslides.com) wrote on 10/8/98 10:50 AM: >>does anyone know of a product which takes in a PDF file and outputs all the >>pages as individual tiff files. A key requirement is that the product be >>able to handle PDF which comprise of both text and image. Our client has >>trailed a product (not sure of name - didn't ring a bell) but it apparently >>falls over when PDF files are not image only! > >There are printer drivers for Windows at least that you can set up to >create TIFFs, TGAs or any of several other bitmap formats at your choice of >resolution. So long as the app and driver get on well, you should be in >business. SuperPrint from Zenographics is one such beastie. While I am not familiar with this specific utility, it has been my experience that these print driver utilities only use the low res. data from images in a page layout program to create the TIFFs. In order to get a "good" high res. TIFF (if that's what you want), a desktop RIP application may be necessary. One that comes to mind is Transverter Pro from TechPool Software . Dennis Walker dennisw@inpractice.net EVP/Production Mgr. 435-647-9910 InPractice Publications, Inc. 435-647-5927 fax __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 8-Oct-1998 19:11:21-GMT,2425;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA00637 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 13:11:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA04087; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 13:50:59 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 8 Oct 1998 13:49:46 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA04009; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 13:49:44 -0500 From: sabahat_ashraf@mentorg.com (Sabahat Ashraf) Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 14:49:39 -0400 Message-Id: <9810081849.ZM23893@danm> In-Reply-To: Shane Steinman "Re: [PDF] How would one edit PDF's in Maker5.5" (Oct 7, 10:14pm) References: <361C2E1D.2352@archangel.net> X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.1 10oct95) To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] How would one edit PDF's in Maker5.5 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Thanks. Sabahat. -- [Sabahat I. Ashraf] Technical Writer / Course Developer Mentor Graphics Corporation. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Ceci tuera cela. [This will destroy that.] Priest in Victor Hugo's _Notre Dame de Paris_ pointing from a printed book to the cathedral. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- work: (908) 604 0880 home: (201) 287 1405 fax: (908) 604 0901 work: sabahat_ashraf@mentorg.com home: ashrafs@juno.com 735 Elm Ave Apt 5B, Teaneck, NJ 07666-2313 http://www.rpi.edu/~ashrafs __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 8-Oct-1998 19:12:55-GMT,2408;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA00698 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 13:12:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA04201; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 13:52:11 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 8 Oct 1998 13:51:24 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA04104; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 13:51:23 -0500 From: sabahat_ashraf@mentorg.com (Sabahat Ashraf) Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 14:51:15 -0400 Message-Id: <9810081851.ZM23913@danm> In-Reply-To: "Wraight, David D." "RE: [PDF] How would one edit PDF's in Maker5.5" (Oct 8, 9:21am) References: X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.1 10oct95) To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] How would one edit PDF's in Maker5.5 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Thanks. Sabahat. -- [Sabahat I. Ashraf] Technical Writer / Course Developer Mentor Graphics Corporation. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Ceci tuera cela. [This will destroy that.] Priest in Victor Hugo's _Notre Dame de Paris_ pointing from a printed book to the cathedral. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- work: (908) 604 0880 home: (201) 287 1405 fax: (908) 604 0901 work: sabahat_ashraf@mentorg.com home: ashrafs@juno.com 735 Elm Ave Apt 5B, Teaneck, NJ 07666-2313 http://www.rpi.edu/~ashrafs __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 8-Oct-1998 19:32:44-GMT,2473;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA01096 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 13:32:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA04235; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 13:52:53 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 8 Oct 1998 13:52:04 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA04155; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 13:52:02 -0500 From: sabahat_ashraf@mentorg.com (Sabahat Ashraf) Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 14:51:57 -0400 Message-Id: <9810081851.ZM23919@danm> In-Reply-To: "Sabahat Ashraf" "Re: [PDF] How would one edit PDF's in Maker5.5" (Oct 8, 6:51pm) References: <9810081851.ZM23913@danm> X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.1 10oct95) To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: APOLOGY: Re: [PDF] How would one edit PDF's in Maker5.5 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== I sent "thanks" to the list address. Mea maxima culpa. Sabahat. -- [Sabahat I. Ashraf] Technical Writer / Course Developer Mentor Graphics Corporation. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Ceci tuera cela. [This will destroy that.] Priest in Victor Hugo's _Notre Dame de Paris_ pointing from a printed book to the cathedral. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- work: (908) 604 0880 home: (201) 287 1405 fax: (908) 604 0901 work: sabahat_ashraf@mentorg.com home: ashrafs@juno.com 735 Elm Ave Apt 5B, Teaneck, NJ 07666-2313 http://www.rpi.edu/~ashrafs __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 8-Oct-1998 22:47:29-GMT,3143;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA05494 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 16:47:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA17286; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 17:31:14 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 8 Oct 1998 17:30:18 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA17217; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 17:30:14 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Reader 3.02 ? Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 23:01:09 +0100 Message-ID: <000201bdf30a$f379a4e0$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Highly unlikely. I haven't looked at it yet. Is it just the basic English version of Reader + forms update? Its name doesn't give many clues. Aandi > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > [mailto:owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com]On > Behalf Of Livingston, Thomas S > Sent: Thursday, 8 October, 1998 21:44 > To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' > Subject: RE: [PDF] Reader 3.02 ? > > > > ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > > Does anyone know whether the v3.02 Reader for Windows can be used on > Windows 3.1? I've installed it on a Win95 machine. > > Thanks! > > Tom Livingston > FSBTI > > > Kurt Foss wrote . . . > > Yes, the v.3.02 Readers apparently *are* available, but so far > only > > *without* Search, it seems. > > > > Find them at: > > > > ftp://ftp.adobe.com/pub/adobe/acrobatreader/mac/3.x/ > > > > ftp://ftp.adobe.com/pub/adobe/acrobatreader/win/3.x/ > > > > ftp://ftp.adobe.com/pub/adobe/acrobatreader/unix/3.x/ > > > > ftp://ftp.adobe.com/pub/adobe/acrobatreader/os2/3.x/ > > > > > > __________________________________________________________ > > -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- > *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** > + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + > __________________________________________________________ > __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 9-Oct-1998 0:20:41-GMT,2246;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA07327 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 18:20:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA21663; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 18:59:58 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 8 Oct 1998 18:59:06 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA21604; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 18:59:03 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19981008200836.00847370@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 08 Oct 1998 20:08:36 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] Re: pdf-digest for October-8-98 [V2 #340] In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > >1) To open the documents within the browser window, using the Reader plug in >2) To open the documents in the Acrobat Reader, called as a helper application from the browser >3) Convert the documents to HTML, and put them on the intranet in that form > Assuming an in-house network, could you make a shared directory available to all users who need this facility? Give them each a copy of Reader+Search and sidestep all the browser/indexing issues altogether. May not be practical in your situation, but if possible, I'd think it'd be infinitely preferable. Steve Rindsberg/Prez RDP http://www.rdpslides.com __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 9-Oct-1998 0:20:42-GMT,3077;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA07328 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 18:20:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA22040; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 19:05:20 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 8 Oct 1998 19:04:30 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA21931; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 19:04:28 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19981008201402.00847370@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 08 Oct 1998 20:14:02 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF with many pages --> individual tiffs In-Reply-To: <1304260660-51959148@mail.inpractice.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > >While I am not familiar with this specific utility, it has been my >experience that these print driver utilities only use the low res. data >from images in a page layout program to create the TIFFs. In order to get >a "good" high res. TIFF (if that's what you want), a desktop RIP >application may be necessary. One that comes to mind is Transverter Pro >from TechPool Software . > Disclaimer: it's been a long, long time since I last used Superprint. I liked it a lot then, it got me out of a lot of jams with apps that made unimageable PS, but I can't make any claims for how the current version works. That said, understand that it's not any sort of screen capture utility. More like a GDI printer. It will give very high rez results if the app passes high rez info to the printer. IOW, no intelligent app will send it PS; it'll get the preview image instead, so EPS won't generally produce the best results. Anything that prints adequately to a non-PS printer should do well, though. At about the time I stopped using it, they added a software PS RIP (licensed from Pipeline as I recall) that could deal with EPS/PS as well. It's certainly one of those "At these prices we can't afford not to try it" deals ... last I looked, it was selling for around fifty bucks. Whether that version included ZScript (the PS RIP) or not, I don't know. Steve Rindsberg/Prez RDP http://www.rdpslides.com __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 9-Oct-1998 0:20:42-GMT,3306;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA07329 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 18:20:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA21424; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 18:55:32 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 8 Oct 1998 18:54:39 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA21314; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 18:54:37 -0500 Message-ID: <361DDD7F.8E3168A5@realworld.com.au> Date: Fri, 09 Oct 1998 09:55:14 +0000 From: Dean Laffan X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Reader 3.02 ? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Hi Karen et al Here is the readme from my download of 3.02: This update for Adobe Acrobat includes bug fixes for the Acrobat Forms Update 3.5 and the Acrobat Control for ActiveX. This Read Me details which problems are fixed on each platform for each component. ====================================================================== Acrobat Control for ActiveX 3.02 - Windows 95/NT Only If you are using Internet Explorer 4.0, this updated version of Acrobat Control for ActiveX fixes the following: 1. Page-at-time downloading of multi-page PDF files 2. Automatic search highlights 3. PDF form posting to secure web site ====================================================================== Acrobat Forms Update 3.5.1 This update addresses several particular behaviors in Acrobat Forms Update 3.5. These updates are for the English versions of the Acrobat Forms Update. This update fixes the following problems. Windows 95/NT, Macintosh and UNIX 1. Spawning page template using FDF caused crashing. 2. The Mouse Up action for a button was not being executed if the space bar or Enter key was used to activate the button as opposed to the mouse. 3. Some field calculations would randomly change, making the calculation incorrect, while filling a form that had a large number of fields. Windows 95/NT Using PageUp/PageDown keys on the keyboard when viewing a form inside a web browser would cause a crash. UNIX 1. The PFN alert dialog would not display a Browse dialog to locate a PFN that Acrobat was attempting to locate. 2. Submitting HTML to a server that returned FDF would not function properly. SNIPPED THE LEGAL STUFF __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 9-Oct-1998 0:21:17-GMT,2057;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA07354 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 18:21:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA21376; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 18:55:10 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 8 Oct 1998 18:53:53 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA21259; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 18:53:51 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Livingston, Thomas S" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Reader 3.02 ? Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 16:52:18 -0700 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== It appears to be the Reader + forms update. Tom > ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > > Highly unlikely. I haven't looked at it yet. Is it just the > basic English version of Reader + forms update? Its name > doesn't give many clues. > > Aandi > > > > > Does anyone know whether the v3.02 Reader for Windows can be used on > > Windows 3.1? I've installed it on a Win95 machine. > > > > Thanks! > > > > Tom Livingston > > FSBTI > > > __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 9-Oct-1998 0:36:40-GMT,3148;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA07597 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 18:36:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA22865; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 19:19:21 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 8 Oct 1998 19:18:28 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA22784; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 19:18:27 -0500 Message-ID: <361D642A.A7019263@wanadoo.fr> Date: Fri, 09 Oct 1998 02:17:30 +0100 From: Michel Lausseur Organization: AAlto Consultant X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [fr] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Separating Acrobat Indexes? References: <004201bdf23a$b24170a0$1f40dec2@demon.co.uk> <361D34DB.4022A23C@realworld.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Another problem with autoindex feature is that you are able to automatically add one additional index when loading a PDF file, but not able to remove current indexes. So the result of your queries depend on the context of previous searches on every workstation. There should be an "auto-index-off" feature ; does any implementation exists for this concept I have just invented ? Michel Lausseur Aalto Consultant Dean Laffan a écrit: > ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > > Hi Nic, > > Here's my understanding of your situation, other posters feel free to > step in and correct me if neccessary! > > Reader 3.01 does not support ataching more than one index per pdf, I am > currently downloading Reader 3.02 as I write this post so I can't speak > for that version yet. > > If I understand your post, you need to attch two indexes for a pdf file > to search on/in ? > Our workaround for this in the past is to open to a *splash screen* and > you assign an index to attach to that file, then you assign a second > index to the *real* pdf file and Reader will maintain both Indexes in > which to search. > > HTH > > Dean > Real World > > __________________________________________________________ > > -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- > *** Sponsorship & Advt. 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Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 9-Oct-1998 0:52:21-GMT,1957;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA07870 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 18:52:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA23683; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 19:35:43 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 8 Oct 1998 19:34:49 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA23613; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 19:34:48 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Wraight, David D." To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Old Plug-in -- Acrobat Access32 Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 08:39:43 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Linda, The plugins still exist! and they live: ftp://ftp.adobe.com/pub/adobe/acrobatreader/win/3.x/plugins/beta/ Both versions are there :-) .. d........................................ ----------------------------------------------------- > Does anyone know where I can get the plug-in Access32 (the version > that > would allow for exporting from a PDF into text or PS? > > __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 9-Oct-1998 1:08:40-GMT,2317;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA08173 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 19:08:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA24765; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 19:54:22 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 8 Oct 1998 19:53:27 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA24706; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 19:53:26 -0500 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19981009004731.00d933f4@env-sol.com> X-Sender: thiersch@env-sol.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 08 Oct 1998 17:47:31 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Tom Thiersch Subject: Re: [PDF] Separating Acrobat Indexes? Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== No invention needed, just a visit to the Index Selection dialog. There, you can always de-select one or more indexes for the current query, whether they were attached via autoindex or are permanently defined. Tom Thiersch At 02:17 AM 10/9/98 +0100, you wrote: > >====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > >Another problem with autoindex feature is that you are able to >automatically add one additional index when loading a PDF file, but not >able to remove current indexes. >So the result of your queries depend on the context of previous searches on >every workstation. >There should be an "auto-index-off" feature ; does any implementation >exists for this concept I have just invented ? >Michel Lausseur >Aalto Consultant > __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 9-Oct-1998 1:13:30-GMT,3190;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA08265 for ; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 19:13:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA25080; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 19:58:28 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 8 Oct 1998 19:57:29 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA24954; Thu, 8 Oct 1998 19:57:28 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Wraight, David D." To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Separating Acrobat Indexes? Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 09:03:10 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id TAA24950 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== One possible solution is to look at the Windows Registry. By locating the Index Entries you can create a file (AddIndexes.Reg/DelIndexes.Reg - By saving the Correct Key(s) ) . This file can then be double clicked on to add the Indexes to the Registry and Acrobat Reader/Exchange. I just checked and the information is stored in the Registry BUT it uses Absolute Pathing (no UNC or Relative structures). Couple of considerations: 1. Path names must remain constant. 2. Reader can NOT be running when the registry file is activated (But deactivating may not be a problem). 3. You could de-activate an Index by creating another Registry file without the index, and it will overwrite the entire key (but without the Index file you want). 4. Is this Acrolegal?? 5. You could activate/deactivate the Indexes with a PDF Link to the Registry File(s) bypassing any need to send the registry files to people etc. If you want more information contact me off list. -------------------------------------------- > Another problem with autoindex feature is that you are able to > automatically add one additional index when loading a PDF file, but > not > able to remove current indexes. > So the result of your queries depend on the context of previous > searches on > every workstation. > There should be an "auto-index-off" feature ; does any implementation > exists for this concept I have just invented ? > Michel Lausseur > Aalto Consultant > > Dean Laffan a écrit: > > __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 9-Oct-1998 6:35:32-GMT,3062;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA14867 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 00:35:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA05922; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 01:11:20 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 9 Oct 1998 01:09:56 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA05848; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 01:09:54 -0500 Message-ID: <361DB689.8ADF9F80@wanadoo.fr> Date: Fri, 09 Oct 1998 08:08:57 +0100 From: Michel Lausseur Organization: AAlto Consultant X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [fr] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Separating Acrobat Indexes? References: <2.2.32.19981009004731.00d933f4@env-sol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Of course you can remove manually indexes from current search indexes list, but I meant "removing automatically previous indexes when loading a new PDF document which brings with it its own index through autoindex feature" Tom Thiersch a écrit: > ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > > No invention needed, just a visit to the Index Selection dialog. > > There, you can always de-select one or more indexes for the current query, > whether they were attached via autoindex or are permanently defined. > > Tom Thiersch > > At 02:17 AM 10/9/98 +0100, you wrote: > > > >====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > > > >Another problem with autoindex feature is that you are able to > >automatically add one additional index when loading a PDF file, but not > >able to remove current indexes. > >So the result of your queries depend on the context of previous searches on > >every workstation. > >There should be an "auto-index-off" feature ; does any implementation > >exists for this concept I have just invented ? > >Michel Lausseur > >Aalto Consultant > > > > __________________________________________________________ > > -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- > *** Sponsorship & Advt. 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Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 9-Oct-1998 7:28:04-GMT,1962;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA15730 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 01:28:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA07552; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 01:59:17 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 9 Oct 1998 01:58:17 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA07486; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 01:58:15 -0500 Message-ID: From: des prod To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Error and Offending command Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 08:57:55 +0200 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1457.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id BAA07482 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== How come you can destille an "In Rip Separated" postscript file on a Mac without any errors and not on a PC. Where one gets Error: undefinedfilename Offending Command: file. Its a poscript file from Preps destilled in Acrobat version 3.02 on Mac and PC with the same setup. Henrik Lüneborg Dansk EDB Satscentrum A/S __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 9-Oct-1998 10:21:36-GMT,2370;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA18746 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 04:21:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA13904; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 05:05:38 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 9 Oct 1998 05:03:25 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA13766; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 05:03:24 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Error and Offending command Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 10:00:04 +0100 Message-ID: <000601bdf36b$c5d0fd20$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Hmm. This suggests that for whatever reason, it's trying to read a file in your RIP. Unusual! Perhaps the Mac and Windows versions generate different PostScript. That is not unusual. Either way, I'm assuming you are just trying to distill this for convenience; Distiller will discard any in-RIP separation instructions. Aandi > How come you can destille an "In Rip Separated" postscript > file on a Mac > without any errors and not on a PC. Where one gets Error: > undefinedfilename Offending Command: file. > Its a poscript file from Preps destilled in Acrobat version > 3.02 on Mac > and PC with the same setup. __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 9-Oct-1998 10:21:49-GMT,2728;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA18757 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 04:21:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA13367; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 04:54:21 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 9 Oct 1998 04:51:33 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA13236; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 04:51:32 -0500 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 10:50:07 +0100 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: David R Evans Subject: Re: [PDF] Separating Acrobat Indexes? In-Reply-To: <361DB689.8ADF9F80@wanadoo.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Version 3.03a Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== In message <361DB689.8ADF9F80@wanadoo.fr>, Michel Lausseur wrote: > >====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > >Of course you can remove manually indexes from current search indexes list, but >I meant "removing automatically previous indexes when loading a new PDF document >which brings with it its own index through autoindex feature" Autoindex unloads any indexes that it has added when Acrobat is quit, whereas I think that you want a document's autoindex-added index to be unloaded when the document is closed. We have almost finished a new plug-in which will allow this, and will be available via our web site by the end of this month. Regards David --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dr David R Evans Telephone: (+44) 115 9860048 / 9514230 Merlin Open Systems Facsimile: (+44) 115 9860048 P O Box 230 E-mail: dre@merlin-os.co.uk NOTTINGHAM WWW: http://www.merlin-os.co.uk/ NG2 1LJ, UK Acrobat resellers, specialists in Adobe Acrobat plug-ins and electronic publishing software, publishers of Acrobatics __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 9-Oct-1998 10:22:19-GMT,1983;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA18778 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 04:22:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA13903; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 05:05:36 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 9 Oct 1998 05:03:22 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA13743; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 05:03:21 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Reader 3.02 ? Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 09:55:58 +0100 Message-ID: <000501bdf36b$c3f36380$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <361DDD7F.8E3168A5@realworld.com.au> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > > Here is the readme from my download of 3.02: > > > This update for Adobe Acrobat includes bug fixes... Which platform was this? Or where was the file? My Windows version of this seems to have the Acrobat 3.01 Readme, updated June 1997... (Oops). Aandi __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. 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References: <000501bdf36b$c3f36380$0101c6c0@gateway> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Aandi Inston wrote: Which platform was this? Or where was the file? My Windows > version of this seems to have the Acrobat 3.01 Readme, > updated June 1997... (Oops). > > Aandi You're right Aandi, this was from the Mac version of Reader. Athorough look in the folder reveals 3 readme's One for 3.0 (4 Nov '96), 3.01(12 Jun '97) and 3.02 (Sep 2 '98)! I dunno why they put all those in there. Dean __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 9-Oct-1998 13:27:26-GMT,2021;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA21919 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 07:27:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA21326; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 07:58:15 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 9 Oct 1998 07:56:25 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA21210; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 07:56:23 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: KEYCORP From: "Karen L Mibus" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <85256698.00462744.00@keybank.com> Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 08:53:19 -0400 Subject: [PDF] Errors While Loading PDF in Browser Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Good morning, folks: I hope someone may recognize the following problem and error messages. I'm attempting to load a 325-page PDF file in my browser, Internet Explorer 4.0, using Exchange with the OCX update. Two blank pages appear and then I receive these messages: "Error loading a page. Too many operands." "An unrecognized token '192.81' was found." "There was a problem reading this document (14)." When I download the PDF, it loads just fine in Exchange. Any ideas about what is going on here? --Karen __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 9-Oct-1998 14:36:08-GMT,2756;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA23208 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 08:36:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA26697; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 09:14:16 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 9 Oct 1998 09:12:43 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA26543; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 09:12:41 -0500 Message-Id: <199810091412.KAA22008@massmutual-bh.massmutual.com> From: "Linda Bajumpaa" To: Subject: [PDF] Errors While Loading PDF in Browser Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 10:09:20 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== We too have been having intermittent errors while opening PDFs from our website. It doesnt seem to matter whether the PDF is 28 pages or 4. The file will start to open.....and then a blank page will appear and and error message will pop up. If the file is printed, the blank page prints exactly that -- nothing. Our website is physically hosted outside the company. We have to access it through a firewall. The hosting service has checked the file. It is not damaged. When downloaded to the desktop, the PDF opens fine. This seems to have started about a week ago. However, if I access the website from home, through my ISP, and open the very same file, it opens perfectly and prints ok. Could this error be caused by heavy traffic on the companys connection? The following messages are what I have documented: "There was an error processing a page. Too few operands." "An unrecognized token (3.2e) was found." "There was an error processing a page. There was an error reading this document (114)" "An unrecognized token '192.81' was found." Any help with this would be appreciated. __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 9-Oct-1998 15:31:05-GMT,2073;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA24408 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 09:30:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA30657; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 10:08:30 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 9 Oct 1998 10:07:16 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA30521; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 10:07:13 -0500 Message-ID: <361E346D.7206@infopoint.it> Date: Fri, 09 Oct 1998 17:06:05 +0100 From: Luca Manzato Organization: La Tipografica Varese spa X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] MEGA PROJECT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== I'd appreciate your help and ideas about a mega-project. I plan to scan about 400.000 pages and convert them to PDF. I suppose that the final disk space may be about 50 Gb. Furthermore I need to index all the database. Does Acrobat Capture and Catalog may be powerful enough? Any suggestion about software and hardware is welcome. -- Luca Manzato La Tipografica Varese Spa Via Cherso, 2 21100 VARESE ** ITALY ** Tel: +39 332 330444 Fax: +39 332 331737 http://www.infopoint.it email: luca.manzato@infopoint.it __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 9-Oct-1998 15:31:28-GMT,3329;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA24417 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 09:31:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA30903; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 10:11:03 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 9 Oct 1998 10:10:14 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA30810; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 10:10:06 -0500 Message-Id: <199810091508.QAA27515@waterloo.eur.Adobe.COM> X-Sender: dstevens@waterloo.eur.adobe.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.1 Date: Fri, 09 Oct 1998 16:09:44 +0100 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: David Stevenson Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF with many pages --> individual tiffs In-Reply-To: <003f01bdf2d9$93edc460$0441a8c0@davec.docctrl.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Dave, I needed to do this once and I used Visioneer PaperPort. You print to PaperPort from Acrobat, and the PaperPort print driver creates a bit map for each page that appears on the PaperPort desktop; you can then export those images in TIFF and other image formats. Cheers, David S. At 17:34 08/10/1998 +0100, you wrote: > >====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > >Hi all > >does anyone know of a product which takes in a PDF file and outputs all the >pages as individual tiff files. A key requirement is that the product be >able to handle PDF which comprise of both text and image. Our client has >trailed a product (not sure of name - didn't ring a bell) but it apparently >falls over when PDF files are not image only! > >Thanks > >drc >--- >David Cornwell, Director - Business Development >Computerised Document Control Ltd >PO Box 5, Chepstow, Monmouthshire, NP6 6YU, United Kingdom >Tel: + 44 (0) 1291 635 403 (direct) ; USA: 1-888-240-1752 >Fax: + 44 (0) 1291 623 902 >www.docctrl.com >Forging the link between Document Systems and Acrobat > > >__________________________________________________________ > >-> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- >*** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** >+ For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + >__________________________________________________________ > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------ David Stevenson Solutions Group Adobe Systems Europe 1 Roundwood Avenue, Stockley Park, Uxbridge, UB11 1AY Tel: 0181 848 6235 Fax: 0181 848 6220 Mobile: 0468 801366 Email: dstevens@adobe.com __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 9-Oct-1998 15:31:52-GMT,2251;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA24438 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 09:31:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA30880; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 10:10:32 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 9 Oct 1998 10:09:43 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA30758; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 10:09:41 -0500 Message-ID: <19981009150631.3391.rocketmail@web4.rocketmail.com> Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 08:06:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Iain Gibson Subject: RE: [PDF] Running PDF documents from CD ROM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== It might be off the beaten track but it is possible to launch Reader from a CD without installing it. I think if memory serves you might have to copy a couple of system files but not that much more. It should be pointed out however that this is not within the spirit of the 'Standard' agreement Adobe presents. Adobe give you the software for free and it should be installed to work properly, if this means they get a wee bit of advertising from this then thats a fair play in my book Iain === What makes life worth living? To be born with the gift of laughter and sense that the world is mad. -- S. Scaramouche _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 9-Oct-1998 15:54:49-GMT,2106;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA24971 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 09:54:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA00154; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 10:35:37 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 9 Oct 1998 10:34:19 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA00018; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 10:34:17 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: KEYCORP From: "Karen L Mibus" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com cc: ibajumpaa@massmutual.com Message-ID: <85256698.0054FE69.00@keybank.com> Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 11:30:25 -0400 Subject: Re: [PDF] Errors While Loading PDF in Browser Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Will the person (ibajumpaa@massmutual.com) who wrote the following: We too have been having intermittent errors while opening PDFs from our website. It doesnt seem to matter whether the PDF is 28 pages or 4. The file will start to open.....and then a blank page will appear and and error message will pop up. If the file is printed, the blank page prints exactly that -- nothing. please provide a URL for the problem PDF file? I've asked Dov at Adobe to help us out and he's hot on the trail! (We do not have a problem PDF beyond our firewall.) --Karen __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 9-Oct-1998 16:02:40-GMT,2077;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA25191 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 10:02:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA00362; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 10:38:50 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 9 Oct 1998 10:38:00 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA00277; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 10:37:58 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: KEYCORP From: "Karen L Mibus" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <85256698.00558F8A.00@keybank.com> Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 11:34:54 -0400 Subject: Re: [PDF] Errors While Loading PDF in Browser Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Will the person (ibajumpaa@massmutual.com) who wrote the following: We too have been having intermittent errors while opening PDFs from our website. It doesnt seem to matter whether the PDF is 28 pages or 4. The file will start to open.....and then a blank page will appear and and error message will pop up. If the file is printed, the blank page prints exactly that -- nothing. please provide a URL for the problem PDF file? I've asked Dov at Adobe to help us out and he's hot on the trail! (We do not have a problem PDF beyond our firewall.) --Karen __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 9-Oct-1998 16:37:23-GMT,3173;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA26002 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 10:37:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA02650; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 11:13:32 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 9 Oct 1998 11:12:29 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA02597; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 11:12:28 -0500 Message-ID: <361E35AA.477EA8A@kiwi.futuris.net> Date: Fri, 09 Oct 1998 12:11:22 -0400 From: "Robert E. Moran" Organization: Digital Constructs Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] MEGA PROJECT References: <361E346D.7206@infopoint.it> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id LAA02593 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Yes it is. Get the enterprize edition of the program and make sure you have an intense NT system to run it on. Also make sure the pages in question are clean and not full of handwritten notes or other random scribblings. After that, you should be fine. Bob Moran Luca Manzato wrote: > ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > > I'd appreciate your help and ideas about a mega-project. I plan to scan > about 400.000 pages and convert them to PDF. I suppose that the final > disk space may be about 50 Gb. Furthermore I need to index all the > database. > > Does Acrobat Capture and Catalog may be powerful enough? > > Any suggestion about software and hardware is welcome. > > -- > Luca Manzato > La Tipografica Varese Spa > Via Cherso, 2 > 21100 VARESE > ** ITALY ** > Tel: +39 332 330444 > Fax: +39 332 331737 > http://www.infopoint.it > email: luca.manzato@infopoint.it > > __________________________________________________________ > > -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- > *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** > + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + > __________________________________________________________ -- Robert E. Moran Digital Constructs Inc. 759 North Park Avenue Redding, CT 06896 Tel 203-452-1116 203-452-8085 Fax: 203-452-0416 E-Mail remoran@dconstructs.com URL: www.dconstructs.com “Confusion is a misapprehension of a higher order” – Henry Miller __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 9-Oct-1998 18:27:27-GMT,3333;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA28338 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 12:27:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA08811; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 12:51:11 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 9 Oct 1998 12:50:01 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA08701; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 12:50:00 -0500 Message-ID: From: Duff Johnson To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] MEGA PROJECT Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 10:54:21 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > From: Aandi Inston [mailto:quite@dial.pipex.com] > At Seybold I saw a presentation on a mega machine to do this job. > It used Capture and a special hardware unit with multiple processors. > It consumed TIFFs; you should definitely separate scanning and > capturing, I'd say. Oh yes, oh yes.... > The machines were very expensive, and perhaps over-specified for > your job. I think it was a joint development with Compaq and someone > else... I'm usually leery of "dedicated hardware" OCR "solutions" - they are usually chased into obsolescence within months by the rising tide of cheap, high-powered gear. The question of "what machine" is actually a question of "how long do I have to do this project". With 4-5 well-tuned, high-powered Capture workstations, you would most likely complete your Capture processing in 6-7 weeks, maybe less (and that's accounting for some downtime). I would be surprised if your project spec called for much higher throughput than that. The scanning will likely take at least that long (unless you are going REALLY heavy-duty). > > I'd appreciate your help and ideas about a mega-project. I > > plan to scan > > about 400.000 pages and convert them to PDF. I suppose that > the final > > disk space may be about 50 Gb. Furthermore I need to index all the > > database. > > > > Does Acrobat Capture and Catalog may be powerful enough? Capture - no problem. If you want to use Catalog for the _whole_ collection at once (as opposed to building several indicies), you'll want a TON of RAM on the indexing machine... To all intents and purposes, I would guess that a single Catalog index for 400,000 pages is, um, a bit much! There are more industrial-strength indexing tools for people like you. Duff Johnson President, Document Solutions, Inc. __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 9-Oct-1998 18:27:46-GMT,2379;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA28341 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 12:27:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA07193; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 12:24:31 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 9 Oct 1998 12:20:50 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA07021; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 12:20:48 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] MEGA PROJECT Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 18:04:18 +0100 Message-ID: <000001bdf3a8$e410bf40$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <361E346D.7206@infopoint.it> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== At Seybold I saw a presentation on a mega machine to do this job. It used Capture and a special hardware unit with multiple processors. It consumed TIFFs; you should definitely separate scanning and capturing, I'd say. The machines were very expensive, and perhaps over-specified for your job. I think it was a joint development with Compaq and someone else... > I'd appreciate your help and ideas about a mega-project. I > plan to scan > about 400.000 pages and convert them to PDF. I suppose that the final > disk space may be about 50 Gb. Furthermore I need to index all the > database. > > Does Acrobat Capture and Catalog may be powerful enough? Aandi __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 9-Oct-1998 19:23:01-GMT,4962;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA29561 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 13:22:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA13100; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 14:01:19 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 9 Oct 1998 13:59:43 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA12910; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 13:59:38 -0500 Message-ID: <6031CF804B89D111B9F00020AFD0D9A6024EF6@mail.paravision.com> From: Vincent Huang To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" , Duff Johnson Cc: Charles Turner Subject: RE: [PDF] MEGA PROJECT Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 12:17:02 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== 1. If you need to "Capture"-(i.e. OCR) the pages, OCR speed and accuracy is VERY important. 2. In our case, being approx. 200% faster (lab test) means you either cut your project time or your required equipment in half. So a 6-7 week job becomes 3-4 weeks. 3. Xerox's TextBridge (www.scansoft.com ) and Paravision Imaging's PageGenie 2000 Pro (That's my company-http://www.pagegenie.com) provide such capability. 4. Xerox handles only black and white but has built-in PDF print capability. I am not too sure of their batch processing capabiliy. 5. My software need your own PDF print driver. 6. Both Xerox and my software has very high speed OCR and very high (Much better than Adobe Capture) OCR accuracy. And both support Italian (I believe that's true for Xerox too) 7. Take it off-line if you are interested. Vincent Huang Paravision Imaging, Inc. Next Generation OCR capabilities Today. ---------- From: Duff Johnson [SMTP:DuffJ@document-solutions.com] Sent: Friday, October 09, 1998 10:54 AM To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' Subject: RE: [PDF] MEGA PROJECT ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > From: Aandi Inston [mailto:quite@dial.pipex.com] > At Seybold I saw a presentation on a mega machine to do this job. > It used Capture and a special hardware unit with multiple processors. > It consumed TIFFs; you should definitely separate scanning and > capturing, I'd say. Oh yes, oh yes.... > The machines were very expensive, and perhaps over-specified for > your job. I think it was a joint development with Compaq and someone > else... I'm usually leery of "dedicated hardware" OCR "solutions" - they are usually chased into obsolescence within months by the rising tide of cheap, high-powered gear. The question of "what machine" is actually a question of "how long do I have to do this project". With 4-5 well-tuned, high-powered Capture workstations, you would most likely complete your Capture processing in 6-7 weeks, maybe less (and that's accounting for some downtime). I would be surprised if your project spec called for much higher throughput than that. The scanning will likely take at least that long (unless you are going REALLY heavy-duty). > > I'd appreciate your help and ideas about a mega-project. I > > plan to scan > > about 400.000 pages and convert them to PDF. I suppose that > the final > > disk space may be about 50 Gb. Furthermore I need to index all the > > database. > > > > Does Acrobat Capture and Catalog may be powerful enough? Capture - no problem. If you want to use Catalog for the _whole_ collection at once (as opposed to building several indicies), you'll want a TON of RAM on the indexing machine... To all intents and purposes, I would guess that a single Catalog index for 400,000 pages is, um, a bit much! There are more industrial-strength indexing tools for people like you. Duff Johnson President, Document Solutions, Inc. __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 9-Oct-1998 19:34:07-GMT,2904;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA29795 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 13:33:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA14525; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 14:18:49 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 9 Oct 1998 14:17:55 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA14432; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 14:17:54 -0500 Message-ID: From: Duff Johnson To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] MEGA PROJECT Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 12:22:21 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > 1. If you need to "Capture"-(i.e. OCR) the pages, OCR speed and > accuracy is VERY important. Depends on the turn time requirement, I'd say... Accuracy, of course, is critical. > 2. In our case, being approx. 200% faster (lab test) means you > either cut your project time or your required equipment in half. So a > 6-7 week job becomes 3-4 weeks. Lab tests are fine...but reality tests different! > 3. Xerox's TextBridge (www.scansoft.com ) > and Paravision Imaging's PageGenie 2000 Pro (That's my > company-http://www.pagegenie.com) provide such capability. I have no experience with PageGenie, but Textbridge, while excellent OCR, makes PDF/Image=Text files that are junk. They "paint" to the screen 2-4 times slower than Capture-generated files, and have a few other nasty quirks besides. > 4. Xerox handles only black and white but has built-in PDF print > capability. I am not too sure of their batch processing capabiliy. Xerox Textbridge has zero batch processing capability. > 5. My software need your own PDF print driver. > 6. Both Xerox and my software has very high speed OCR and very high > (Much better than Adobe Capture) OCR accuracy. And both > support Italian > (I believe that's true for Xerox too) Capture supports Italian as well (or so the dialog claims). Duff Johnson President, Document Solutions, Inc. __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 9-Oct-1998 20:00:16-GMT,2379;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA00396 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 14:00:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA16240; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 14:42:26 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 9 Oct 1998 14:41:19 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA16121; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 14:41:17 -0500 From: lp5@chrysler.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: CHRYSLER To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <85256698.006C1129.00@lngodd02.notes.chrysler.com> Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 15:40:14 -0400 Subject: Re: [PDF] Errors While Loading PDF in Browser Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== >Will the person (ibajumpaa@massmutual.com) who wrote the following: >> We too have been having intermittent errors while opening PDFs from >>our website. It doesnt seem to matter whether the PDF is 28 pages or 4. >>The file will start to open.....and then a blank page will appear and and >>error message will pop up. If the file is printed, the blank page prints >>exactly that -- nothing. >> >please provide a URL for the problem PDF file? I've asked Dov at Adobe to >help us out and he's hot on the trail! (We do not have a problem PDF >beyond our firewall.) > >- --Karen THANKS, Karen. I hope Dov can pin this down. We've had similar problems on our Web site (as have many others according to the posts the last few weeks!). I've wondered if the PDF file gets corrupted in the process of getting FTP'd to the Web server?? - Linda __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 9-Oct-1998 20:25:28-GMT,1902;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA00898 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 14:25:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA17715; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 15:06:40 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 9 Oct 1998 15:05:00 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA17563; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 15:04:58 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: KEYCORP From: "Karen L Mibus" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <85256698.006DD66C.00@keybank.com> Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 16:01:51 -0400 Subject: Re: [PDF] Errors While Loading PDF in Browser Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Linda: Ada Yue Quality Engineering Manager, Acrobat Adobe Systems Incorporated Ada Yue is now looking into the problem. I'm still looking for a URL of an external PDF file that receives the same messages that mine received. Our problem PDF is an internal (Intranet) file so I cannot help Adobe to experience the problem. If anyone has such a file, please provide the URL ASAP. --Karen __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 9-Oct-1998 20:43:34-GMT,2869;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA01318 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 14:43:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA19198; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 15:28:23 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 9 Oct 1998 15:27:33 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA19067; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 15:27:31 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: kfoss@mailbag.com Message-Id: Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 15:25:59 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: mlknvc@rit.edu Subject: RE: [PDF] MEGA PROJECT Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Yes, Aandi, I saw it at Seybold too. It was the "Tower of Power" a joint development of Infodata Systems and Compaq: Infodata Systems Bohn Kim, Account Manager 1953 Landings Drive Mountain View, CA 94043 http://www.ambia.com 650 428-0160 ext. 228 bkim@ambia.com Compaq Computer Corp. Dan Lee, Workstation Division Burlington Centre 25 Corporate Dr., Suite 210 Burlington, MA 01803 781 359-5206 http://www.compaq.com dan.lee@compaq.com Mike Kleper >====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > >At Seybold I saw a presentation on a mega machine to do this job. >It used Capture and a special hardware unit with multiple processors. >It consumed TIFFs; you should definitely separate scanning and >capturing, I'd say. > >The machines were very expensive, and perhaps over-specified for >your job. I think it was a joint development with Compaq and someone >else... > >> I'd appreciate your help and ideas about a mega-project. I >> plan to scan >> about 400.000 pages and convert them to PDF. I suppose that the final >> disk space may be about 50 Gb. Furthermore I need to index all the >> database. >> >> Does Acrobat Capture and Catalog may be powerful enough? > >Aandi _________________________________ Michael L. Kleper Professor Rochester Institute of Technology 70 Lomb Memorial Drive Rochester, NY 14623 716 475-2773 716 475-5804 fax _________________________________ __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 9-Oct-1998 20:44:06-GMT,2113;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA01322 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 14:43:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA19193; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 15:28:17 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 9 Oct 1998 15:27:16 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA19038; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 15:27:11 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19981009163640.008387c0@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Fri, 09 Oct 1998 16:36:40 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] Errors While Loading PDF in Browser In-Reply-To: <85256698.006C1129.00@lngodd02.notes.chrysler.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== >weeks!). I've wondered if the PDF file gets corrupted in the process of >getting FTP'd to the Web server?? > I think the original poster mentioned that if the file is downloaded to the local machine, it prints/displays fine. That would pretty much preclude the file being damaged on the way up to the server. What the heck, eliminate enough of the things it *can't* be, maybe what's left will be what it *is*. ;-) Steve Rindsberg/Prez RDP http://www.rdpslides.com __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 9-Oct-1998 21:15:31-GMT,3513;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA01942 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 15:15:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA20792; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 15:56:26 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 9 Oct 1998 15:55:30 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA20656; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 15:55:28 -0500 Message-ID: <361E18BE.157F@ix.netcom.com> Date: Fri, 09 Oct 1998 14:08:02 +0000 From: "L. Spear" X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0-C-AICK1-2 (Macintosh; U; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] MEGA PROJECT References: <361E346D.7206@infopoint.it> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Luca Manzato wrote: > > ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > > I'd appreciate your help and ideas about a mega-project. I plan to scan > about 400.000 pages and convert them to PDF. I suppose that the final > disk space may be about 50 Gb. Furthermore I need to index all the > database. > > Does Acrobat Capture and Catalog may be powerful enough? > > Any suggestion about software and hardware is welcome. > > -- > Luca Manzato > La Tipografica Varese Spa > Via Cherso, 2 > 21100 VARESE > ** ITALY ** > Tel: +39 332 330444 > Fax: +39 332 331737 > http://www.infopoint.it > email: luca.manzato@infopoint.it > > __________________________________________________________ > > -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- > *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** > + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + > __________________________________________________________ I have been in the process of doing the same thing as you are talking about, except I do not have 400,000 pages. Yes Acrobat Capture can do this. As for the indexing of Catalog of the size you are proposing, I am not sure. However, I do not think it should be too much of a problem. Even if there is, there are a number of 3rd party companies that have programs that can work in conjunction with Acrobat to organize, index, and catalog. I recommend the best equiptment you can afford. As for scanning, what type of documents are planning to scan? Double-sided (Duplex scanning) or single side? This will impact your decision. How quickly do you want this task done? It might pay to outsource all your scanning. With the little information you have supplied, it is hard to reccomend software & hardeware. I am sure that people will respond to your message and provide you with some valuable tips. Good Luck, Lawrence Spear Special Projects Specialty Valve & Fitting Co. Good luck __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 9-Oct-1998 21:18:10-GMT,1599;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA01993 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 15:18:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA20810; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 15:56:47 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 9 Oct 1998 15:55:57 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA20729; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 15:55:56 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: KEYCORP From: "Karen L Mibus" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <85256698.007289E4.00@keybank.com> Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 16:52:45 -0400 Subject: [PDF] Acrobat Preferences Page Cache Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Does anyone know what enabling "Use page cache" on the Preferences dialog box will do? --Karen __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 9-Oct-1998 21:46:33-GMT,1996;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA02567 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 15:46:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA22690; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 16:29:04 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 9 Oct 1998 16:27:48 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA22598; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 16:27:46 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Acrobat Preferences Page Cache Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 22:11:25 +0100 Message-ID: <000501bdf3cb$6418cee0$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <85256698.007289E4.00@keybank.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > Does anyone know what enabling "Use page cache" on the > Preferences dialog > box will do? "Use Page Cache specifies placing the next page into a buffer to reduce the amount of time it takes to page through a document." (Exchange help, page 62). Aandi __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 9-Oct-1998 22:54:49-GMT,2119;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA04042 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 16:54:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA26125; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 17:36:28 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 9 Oct 1998 17:34:56 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA26044; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 17:34:54 -0500 Message-Id: <199810092234.SAA02808@russian-caravan.cloud9.net> X-Sender: jsttriit@mail.cloud9.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Fri, 09 Oct 1998 18:36:12 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Robert Walters Subject: [PDF] Logging Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Has anyone come across a program that creates a log file after conversion to a pdf showing exactly how much each page, color and font makes up in the total file size? Something like Macromedia's Flash 3 program does. Also, anyone know why Adobe wasn't at the Fall internet show in NYC? Thanks.......Rob Big City Design Multimedia / Web Design http://www.bigcitydesign.com Transition Times Multisports Magazine http://www.transitiontimes.com BunkerShot Golf Magazine http://www.bunkershot.com Computrainer - 3D software. Now Shipping. http://www.computrainer.com __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 10-Oct-1998 0:11:31-GMT,5696;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA05518 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 18:11:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA29675; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 18:53:21 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 9 Oct 1998 18:51:55 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA29569; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 18:51:53 -0500 Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 19:53:20 -0400 (EDT) From: Daniel Feenberg Message-Id: <199810092353.TAA11822@nber.nber.org> To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] MEGA PROJECT Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== I have a project which is now over 100,000 pages of PDF conversions, and offer this guidance for what it is worth. Adobe Capture in an excellent OCR engine, but it takes about a minute to interpret a page, and cannot be driven from the command line. We found that it rarely went as long as 100 pages without requiring an operator intervention, which was sometimes complicated. We didn't really have an appropriate task for the operator to do while waiting for Capture to halt, so the operator would usually drift off to a chore in another room. Meanwhile the engine would stop running and the OCR task would fall behind. Total output was only a couple of hours of OCR work per day. It would have been nice to have it log problems and move on, but Adobe did not agree. I had the strong feeling that the problem may have been the license agreement that Adobe had with the supplier of the OCR engine, since it was obviously in Adobe's interest to have you process as many pages as possible. (Adobe collects a penny or two for each scan via a 'coupon dongle'). I note that 400,000 pages is nearly nearly 6,000 hours of 300mHz Pentium computing. Perhaps a group of machines with one operator tending all of them would be practical. We service bureaus do about half the work, at prices ranging from 20 cents to a dollar a page. A far as I know, none ever dropped a page. One problem we always had was that no service bureau would pay attention to the naming system we adopted for the project, and we always had to do a tremendous amount of handwork renaming files and moving them among subdirectories. Surprisingly, each shipment (even to the same vendor) came back with different subdirectory names and structures. I had the impression that the operators were compromising between the specification we provided and what they found most desirable, and that they made a different compromise each time. If you use a service bureau, be sure to get the TIFF and other intermediate files back, in addition to the PDF file. If you need to make the PDFs again, it is better if you have the TIFFs. We also found that the PDF Normal format (a mixture of images and text from OCR) required substantial editing to be usable. Wrong or misspelled words were not usually a problem, but inexplicible font changes were, and the engine often thought it could turn multi-level equations into text format, which it always botched. When it realizes that a section of the page is not OCRable, it just copies a picture to the output, which is great. But it was overly optimistic about what it understood, so there were a lot of botched equations and other elements (graphs, tables, diagrams) in the final output. Theoretically there is an option to make it more conservative when deciding what it can't OCR, but it had minimal effect, even on the most conservative setting. We gave up on the Capture OCR engine and settled on Image Only format and started to use Adobe Exchange or Image Alchemy (from Handmade Software) to create the PDF files. Both of these are fast and inexpensive and the latter will run from the command line, saving labor costs when there are many PDF files. Capture has an Image Only option that would provide the same result, but we felt that if we weren't using the OCR feature of Capture, it was easier and cheaper not to use Capture at all. Our files average 30,000 bytes/page as images, so one of our documents is likely to be 1 to 2 megabytes, but the accuracy is far higher than the normal format and only a brief inspection is required of each page for quality control. The large files tough on WWW users with modems, when they want to download our documents but the alternative wouldn't have been satisfactory. The cost of disk space is trivial - 100,000 pages fit on in $1,000 worth of rotating disk. We now use an OCR engine from Vividata for scanning. It runs about 10 times as fast as Capture, and since it runs from the command line I could turn it on and run through all 100,000 pages in a couple of days with no intervention. We use the OCR output for indexing only, (using a standard web search engines rather than the Adobe search feature). There are others here with a lot more experience than I have, I know! Good luck. Daniel Feenberg NBER feenberg@nber.org . __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 10-Oct-1998 3:49:29-GMT,3105;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA09356 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 21:49:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA06022; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 22:32:14 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 9 Oct 1998 22:30:25 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA05933; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 22:30:23 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: kfoss@pdfzone.com Message-Id: Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 22:32:35 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Mark Nelson Subject: [PDF] Triggering a Browsers "Back" Function Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Greetings- The scenario: I have a couple of HTML pages which open a Acrobat page in a browser window. The same Acrobat page can be "called" from several different HTML pages. I need to put a link on the Acrobat page to return to the calling HTML page. Since there isn't a one-to-one correspondence between the Acrobat file and the HTML file, I can't put a simple link in the Acrobat file, but I need to trigger the browsers' back button and let the browser figure where to return to. What I can't seem to do is to trigger the browsers' back button. Javascript has several functions which would work such as "history.back()" or "Variable=document.referrer", but they don't work as Javascript links in Acrobat. I get an error message saying history, (or document, etc.) is not defined. Also when I try to reference the document object model I run into the same not defined error message. The only functions that a Javascript link in an Acrobat file recognizes are just those defined by Adobe in their "Forms Javascript Object Specifications" document. The Acrobat forms Javascript specification lists several routines which also work, but only in the Acrobat context... once a Forms plug-in "goBack" function hits the start of the Acrobat file history list it stops, and won't go back to the referring HTML file. Any ideas on how I can do this? Also- I noticed in the SDK a plug in code sample in the unsupported section called GoBackPlus, but I can't determine whether this would do the job. The documentation is a little vague and the compiled plug-in is not supplied. Thanks for any help! M A R K __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 10-Oct-1998 15:54:26-GMT,2641;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA21847 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 1998 09:54:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA29102; Sat, 10 Oct 1998 10:35:49 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 10 Oct 1998 10:33:41 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA28951; Sat, 10 Oct 1998 10:33:40 -0500 Message-ID: <001201bdf463$26182c60$1f40dec2@demon.co.uk> From: "Nic Plum" To: X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.0518.4 Subject: [PDF] Setting Reader Preferences Using pdfmark? Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1998 16:30:33 +0100 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.0518.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Is it possible to the way in which Acrobat Reader displays a document using pdfmark, for example fitting the window to the first page? Does one do this by accessing the appropriate dictionary and then using the PUT command, for example? I'm hoping that is possible since then it'd mean that each document could be optimised to display as nature intended rather than having to apply a setting at the overall application level. If anyone has anything to help on this could they e-mail me direct rather than risk boring someone else into oblivion! Cheers. Nic -- _____________________________________________________________________ Buckden, < www.nplum.demon.co.uk/temptin/ > Huntingdon, For information management and Cambs, Adobe Acrobat integration from UK. within your favourite PE18 9SZ wordprocessor Fax: National 0870 0547328 International +44 870 0547328 _____________________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 10-Oct-1998 22:00:21-GMT,9340;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA28253 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 1998 16:00:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA10195; Sat, 10 Oct 1998 16:37:17 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 10 Oct 1998 16:33:31 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA09960; Sat, 10 Oct 1998 16:33:29 -0500 Message-ID: From: Duff Johnson To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Cc: "'Daniel Feenberg'" Subject: RE: [PDF] MEGA PROJECT Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1998 14:37:58 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Mr. Feenberg: I found your description of your experience, and the specifc trials and tribulations of working with service bureaus, to be VERY compelling. I'd like to share some service-bureau thoughts, and make a couple of comments. > -----Original Message----- > From: Daniel Feenberg [mailto:feenberg@nber.nber.org] > Sent: Friday, October 09, 1998 4:53 PM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: [PDF] MEGA PROJECT > Adobe Capture in an excellent OCR engine, but it takes about > a minute to > interpret a page, and cannot be driven from the command line. We found > that it rarely went as long as 100 pages without requiring an operator > intervention, which was sometimes complicated. The command-line issue is significant, but we usually get higher throughput than that. Throw lots of machine at Capture! 256 MB of RAM and a heavy-duty P-II screamer with SCSI should do the trick. Good networking is a MUST. As to reliability, our experience with the 2.01 Capture engine - which is certianly capable of crashing - is better than your own, I guess. We do overnight runs on multiple machines all the time, losing maybe 1 in 5 or 6 part-way through. This is too bad (especially because of the dongle), but... far better than the 100 page limit you describe. Network optomization, overall system stability, and most of all - HIGHEST QUALITY tiffs are vital! > Total output was only a couple of hours of OCR work > per day. Ouch! I'm guessing you need to look to your tiffs.... > It > would have been nice to have it log problems and move on, but > Adobe did > not agree. I had the strong feeling that the problem may have been the > license agreement that Adobe had with the supplier of the OCR engine, > since it was obviously in Adobe's interest to have you process as many > pages as possible. (Adobe collects a penny or two for each scan via a > 'coupon dongle'). At this point, it's Adobe's engine - and it's more like 3.75 cents per page! No-one except Adobe bean-counters likes the dongle, of course. Let's not start that one again! > One problem we always had was that no > service bureau > would pay attention to the naming system we adopted for the > project, and > we always had to do a tremendous amount of handwork renaming files and > moving them among subdirectories. Surprisingly, each shipment > (even to the > same vendor) came back with different subdirectory names and > structures. I > had the impression that the operators were compromising between the > specification we provided and what they found most desirable, and that > they made a different compromise each time. I've heard this so many times... Good service bureaus will ASK you what filename and directory structure you need. Sometimes, they'll try to talk you into something that's "easy" for them (like sequentially-numbered files). But usually, they won't ask.... (Unlike many, my company, DSI, actually DOES provide data structuring and naming as a specific service for our clients who need it). > If you use a > service bureau, > be sure to get the TIFF and other intermediate files back, in > addition to > the PDF file. If you need to make the PDFs again, it is > better if you have > the TIFFs. In larger volumes, and with a experienced, reputable bureau, this is not necessary. A good service provider should be willing to correct reasonable errors and provide an update. We usually archive client source data for a year or more - DATs are cheap! > We also found that the PDF Normal format (a mixture of images and text > from OCR) required substantial editing to be usable. Wrong or > misspelled > words were not usually a problem, but inexplicible font > changes were, and > the engine often thought it could turn multi-level equations into text > format, which it always botched. When it realizes that a > section of the > page is not OCRable, it just copies a picture to the output, which is > great. But it was overly optimistic about what it understood, so there > were a lot of botched equations and other elements (graphs, tables, > diagrams) in the final output. Theoretically there is an > option to make > it more conservative when deciding what it can't OCR, but it > had minimal > effect, even on the most conservative setting. I have had this discussion MANY times too. (broken needle dept.) To sucessfully create acceptable PDF/Normal files in a COST EFFECTIVE manner, you need: a) The BEST, I mean, REALLY GOOD tiffs, cleaned, deskewed, de-speckled (but not TOO aggressively), black-borders removed, rotated to portrait, etc, etc, etc., all BEFORE the Capture run. It takes a high degree of organziation and quality control to do this on any scale - but it's worth LOTS for Capture efficiency and overall reduction in brain damage. b) An understanding of how Capture will react to your pages. Some pages are "simple" in layout, some are "complex". Each of the specific OCR and page-recognition problems you allude to can be squashed, or addressed systematically in TIFF preperation to facilitate a high-volume production process. c) An acceptance of the FACT (sorry, Adobe Capture folks) that Capture OCR and page-recognition simply does not permit high-grade PDF/Normal "ex machina" (DSI-speak for "from the machine"). Nor, for that matter, does any other product on the market at this time. Too many folks are trying desperately to avoid the nasty reality that Acrobat Capture Reviewer IS needed to address issues ranging from font normalization to graphics zoning. d) Well-trained, highly motivated and closely supervised ACD operators who know all the tricks. We charge much more for "cleaned" PDF/Normal because it take time and skill to do - and people who need it line up to get it. Reason: the product blows the doors off of "ex machina". Obviously, in mega-volume, or on a micro-budget, cleaned PDF/Normal can be cost-prohibitive. Expect and demand that your service bureau work with you to understand your requirements. Not infrequently, the questions we ask our clients reveal that PDF/I+T would be acceptable, or even PDF/IO (Image Only). Sometimes, we hybridize all three basic file types to achieve a mix that meets each project need in the most cost-effective manner. PDF/Normal, /I+T and /IO files (not to mention electronically-sourced PDF) can even coexist in a single document, after all. > We gave up on the Capture OCR engine and settled on Image > Only format and > started to use Adobe Exchange or Image Alchemy (from Handmade > Software) to > create the PDF files. Both of these are fast and inexpensive and the > latter will run from the command line, saving labor costs > when there are > many PDF files. They're just not searchable is all.... They're also "heavy" (at least compared to good PDF/Normal). And if the text data resides on your server, then your files become "dumb" as soon as they are donwloaded to the client... > Capture has an Image Only option that would provide the same > result, but > we felt that if we weren't using the OCR feature of Capture, > it was easier > and cheaper not to use Capture at all. That is fer sure! There are lots of other options for PDF/Image Only - no problem there! 'nuff said. Look, not all paper-to-PDF jobs NEED or should even CONSIDER Acrobat Capture. BUT, for good, font-matched PDF/Normal, especially if your conversion includes complex layouts, the use of color, zoned images, etc, etc., there's still nothing else. Just...don't think it's a pushbutton affair! Duff Johnson President, Document Solutions, Inc. 1611 Telegraph Avenue, Suite 1010 Oakland, CA 94612 510-986-0250 FAX: 510-986-0636 duffj@document-solutions.com www.document-solutions.com __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 11-Oct-1998 1:54:02-GMT,2230;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA02411 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 1998 19:54:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA20237; Sat, 10 Oct 1998 20:37:17 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 10 Oct 1998 20:36:01 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA20168; Sat, 10 Oct 1998 20:35:59 -0500 Message-ID: <36200B84.8E61DD0A@neuro.ki.se> Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1998 21:36:04 -0400 From: Virgil Stokes X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.07 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "pdf@lists.pdfzone.com" Subject: [PDF] File type assocation Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== I am running Adobe Distiller 3.0 under Windows NT (4.0) and when I click (from Explorer) on a file with extension .PS then Distiller is automatically executed and distills (or tries to) the corresponding file. I do not want this to occur; i.e. I do not wish this file type to be associated with the Distiller. If I look in the properties and look for the association of this file type I do not find AcroDist.exe as the application! I actually would like to associate GhostView with .PS files; but, I cannot do this now -- Windows NT keeps telling me that AcroDist is associated with .PS files. How do I disassociate .PS files from the Distiller (AcroDist)? -- VPS __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 11-Oct-1998 2:10:49-GMT,2117;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA02746 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 1998 20:10:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA21192; Sat, 10 Oct 1998 20:58:53 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 10 Oct 1998 20:57:59 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA21118; Sat, 10 Oct 1998 20:57:57 -0500 Message-ID: <19981011015752.22081.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [163.150.15.145] From: "Denise Knox" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] PDF Color separations Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1998 18:57:51 PDT Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== HELP! HELP!HELP! HELP! I work for a large newspaper in San Bernardino CA and we're getting more and more PDF's in for our ads we also are beginning to send PDF's to other papers. My problem is that when I send a color PDF to the printer it doesn't separate properly. I either get the same amount of colors on each separation or it just doesn't come thru properly. My distiller is set up properly and I don't have "CMYK to RGB checked. I'm really stumped and don't know how to fix it. Can any of you PRO's out there help me?????? ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 11-Oct-1998 2:15:22-GMT,3067;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA02818 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 1998 20:15:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA21636; Sat, 10 Oct 1998 21:06:31 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 10 Oct 1998 21:05:43 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA21594; Sat, 10 Oct 1998 21:05:41 -0500 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19981011020516.00d92704@env-sol.com> X-Sender: thiersch@env-sol.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1998 19:05:16 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Tom Thiersch Subject: Re: [PDF] File type assocation Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== The easiest way to change the file association without removing Distiller is to use the old File Manager (WINFILE.EXE) program -- this is one of the things that Explorer does poorly (or not at all, in some situations). Start the File Manager, highlight any .PS file, choose File > Associations, remove the current association (ACRODIST), and add the new association for GS or whatever. Tom Thiersch At 09:36 PM 10/10/98 -0400, you wrote: > >====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > >I am running Adobe Distiller 3.0 under Windows NT (4.0) >and when I click (from Explorer) on a file with >extension .PS then Distiller is automatically executed >and distills (or tries to) the corresponding file. > >I do not want this to occur; i.e. I do not wish this file >type to be associated with the Distiller. If I look in >the properties and look for the association of this >file type I do not find AcroDist.exe as the application! > >I actually would like to associate GhostView with >.PS files; but, I cannot do this now -- Windows NT >keeps telling me that AcroDist is associated with .PS >files. > >How do I disassociate .PS files from the Distiller (AcroDist)? > >-- VPS > > > >__________________________________________________________ > >-> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- >*** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** >+ For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + >__________________________________________________________ > > __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 11-Oct-1998 2:34:12-GMT,2694;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA03143 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 1998 20:34:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA22198; Sat, 10 Oct 1998 21:19:46 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 10 Oct 1998 21:18:52 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA22140; Sat, 10 Oct 1998 21:18:50 -0500 Message-ID: <3620158E.FA4BCB13@neuro.ki.se> Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1998 22:18:54 -0400 From: Virgil Stokes X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.07 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] File type assocation References: <2.2.32.19981011020516.00d92704@env-sol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Tom Thiersch wrote: > ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > > The easiest way to change the file association without removing Distiller is > to use the old File Manager (WINFILE.EXE) program -- this is one of the > things that Explorer does poorly (or not at all, in some situations). > > Start the File Manager, highlight any .PS file, choose File > Associations, > remove the current association (ACRODIST), and add the new association for > GS or whatever. But, you must not have understood my message -- this procedure DOES NOT SHOW the program ACRODIST nor any file type PS! Apparently when Adobe Acrobat 3.0 is installed it fixes the registry so that this file association is true; but, it is not revealed in the procedure that you mentioned (and the one that I have tried). Thus, it is not possible to associate .PS with another application -- if I try "new" while in this procedure it does recognize that .PS is associated with ACRODIST (does not allow me to associate another application with the same type). This is what my problem is about. --VPS __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 11-Oct-1998 2:41:43-GMT,3059;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA03269 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 1998 20:41:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA22850; Sat, 10 Oct 1998 21:32:16 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 10 Oct 1998 21:31:23 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA22753; Sat, 10 Oct 1998 21:31:22 -0500 Message-ID: <3620187F.DA71CEDD@neuro.ki.se> Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1998 22:31:27 -0400 From: Virgil Stokes X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.07 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] File type assocation References: <2.2.32.19981011020516.00d92704@env-sol.com> <3620158E.FA4BCB13@neuro.ki.se> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Virgil Stokes wrote: > ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > > Tom Thiersch wrote: > > > ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > > > > The easiest way to change the file association without removing Distiller is > > to use the old File Manager (WINFILE.EXE) program -- this is one of the > > things that Explorer does poorly (or not at all, in some situations). > > > > Start the File Manager, highlight any .PS file, choose File > Associations, > > remove the current association (ACRODIST), and add the new association for > > GS or whatever. > > But, you must not have understood my message -- this procedure DOES NOT > SHOW the program ACRODIST nor any file type PS! Apparently when Adobe > Acrobat 3.0 is installed it fixes the registry so that this file association is > true; but, > it is not revealed in the procedure that you mentioned (and the one that I have > tried). Thus, it is not possible to associate .PS with another application -- if > > I try "new" while in this procedure it does recognize that .PS is associated > with ACRODIST (does not allow me to associate another application > with the same type). This is what my problem is about. > > --VPS Sorry Tom, You were right (well almost). I was able to use WinFile.exe to delete the Distiller association, then I had to do some tricks (still) to get it to associate .PS with GhostView. VPS __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. 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Demo available from http://www.lantanarips.com Cheers Cliff Strange TypeShop Limited Christchurch New Zealand Denise Knox wrote: > ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > > HELP! HELP!HELP! HELP! I work for a large newspaper in San Bernardino CA > and we're getting more and more PDF's in for our ads we also are > beginning to send PDF's to other papers. My problem is that when I send > a color PDF to the printer it doesn't separate properly. I either get > the same amount of colors on each separation or it just doesn't come > thru properly. My distiller is set up properly and I don't have "CMYK > to RGB checked. I'm really stumped and don't know how to fix it. Can any > of you PRO's out there help me?????? > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > __________________________________________________________ > > -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- > *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** > + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + > __________________________________________________________ --------------4E57A0EEE87893342AACD27F Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Try a Plug-in Crackerjack. Demo available from http://www.lantanarips.com

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HELP! HELP!HELP! HELP! I work for a large newspaper in San Bernardino CA
and we're getting more and more PDF's in for our ads we also are
beginning to send PDF's to other papers. My problem is that when I send
a color PDF to the printer it doesn't separate properly. I either get
the same amount of colors on each separation or it just doesn't come
thru properly.  My distiller is set up properly and I don't have "CMYK
to RGB checked. I'm really stumped and don't know how to fix it. Can any
of you PRO's out there help me??????

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Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 11-Oct-1998 17:36:43-GMT,2515;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA18353 for ; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 11:36:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA20980; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 12:16:21 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 11 Oct 1998 12:13:27 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA20780; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 12:13:25 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] PDF Color separations Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 09:30:20 +0100 Message-ID: <000001bdf53a$2ebba680$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <19981011015752.22081.qmail@hotmail.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Exactly how are you trying to make separations? If you are using a separator program, are you using level 1 PostScript from Exchange, and does the program advertise support for Acrobat PostScript? Aandi > HELP! HELP!HELP! HELP! I work for a large newspaper in San > Bernardino CA > and we're getting more and more PDF's in for our ads we also are > beginning to send PDF's to other papers. My problem is that > when I send > a color PDF to the printer it doesn't separate properly. I either get > the same amount of colors on each separation or it just doesn't come > thru properly. My distiller is set up properly and I don't > have "CMYK > to RGB checked. I'm really stumped and don't know how to fix > it. Can any > of you PRO's out there help me?????? > __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 11-Oct-1998 0:01:06-GMT,2099;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA00377 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 1998 18:01:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA15378; Sat, 10 Oct 1998 18:42:41 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 10 Oct 1998 18:41:11 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA15307; Sat, 10 Oct 1998 18:41:09 -0500 Message-Id: <199810102341.SAA15301@everglades.binc.net> Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1998 18:42:45 -0500 From: Clay McCullough Subject: Re: [PDF] MEGA PROJECT To: "pdf@lists.pdfzone.com" X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; Charset=US-ASCII X-Mailer: Bluto Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== On 10/9/98 at 7:53 PM, feenberg@nber.nber.org (Daniel Feenberg) wrote: > I had the strong feeling that the problem may have been the > license agreement that Adobe had with the supplier of the OCR engine, In the for what it's worth department... An employee of Xerox (Scanning Division) told me that the Acrobat OCR engine is/was based on Xerox TextBridge. I have also been told by veterans of document conversions that the fastest and most accurate OCR is TypeReader. Clay McCullough www.imageplex.com TIF PDF OCR Document Conversion (615) 269-7806 (615) 269-9039 fax __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 11-Oct-1998 0:24:50-GMT,1946;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA00802 for ; Sat, 10 Oct 1998 18:24:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA16791; Sat, 10 Oct 1998 19:14:57 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 10 Oct 1998 19:13:52 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA16699; Sat, 10 Oct 1998 19:13:51 -0500 Message-ID: From: Duff Johnson To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] MEGA PROJECT Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1998 17:18:24 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > > I had the strong feeling that the problem may have been the > > license agreement that Adobe had with the supplier of the > OCR engine, > > In the for what it's worth department... > > An employee of Xerox (Scanning Division) told me that the > Acrobat OCR engine > is/was based on Xerox TextBridge. It's not -- The original engine is OCRON-Recore. Duff Johnson President, Document Solutions, Inc. __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 12-Oct-1998 2:54:25-GMT,2118;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA28110 for ; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 20:54:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA12656; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 21:36:08 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 11 Oct 1998 21:31:36 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA12354; Sun, 11 Oct 1998 21:31:34 -0500 From: "MCS" To: Subject: [PDF] Graphics Question Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 21:32:30 -0500 Message-ID: <002a01bdf588$8f51c4e0$523e5fcc@archetyp> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Has anyone noticed a problem with graphic images clipping on the right side? I have seen it happen with numerous file formats. In this particular case, it happens to be a TIFF image. It looks like it has been cropped? I am finding numerous problems with graphics. Anyone seen this problem and have a rule of thumb for images? Thanks for any assistance Kevin Jackson P.S. To Aandi once again my apologies Kevin Jackson archetyp@mcs.com 630/717-9090 __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 12-Oct-1998 6:29:59-GMT,3530;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA02499 for ; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 00:29:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA21720; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 01:10:36 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 12 Oct 1998 01:09:11 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA21612; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 01:09:09 -0500 Message-ID: <000301bdf5a6$9d654d40$792ad3c6@dale.entevo.com> From: "Dale Gardner" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] File type assocation Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 23:04:55 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Try this -- check start > settings > folder options > File Types -- I'm also on an NT system and this is how I found that .ps is associated with Corel Draw (go figure). If you select edit, you should be able to change to Ghostwriter. Given the problems you report, you might have to work through the individual entries one-by-one, but looking at entries for distiller should do it. If Windows is invoking Distiller when you double click, it more or less has to be there somewhere. If not, you'll probably have to start hacking through the registry. Make a backup -- good luck! Regards, Dale -----Original Message----- From: Virgil Stokes To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: Saturday, October 10, 1998 9:51 PM Subject: [PDF] File type assocation > >====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > >I am running Adobe Distiller 3.0 under Windows NT (4.0) >and when I click (from Explorer) on a file with >extension .PS then Distiller is automatically executed >and distills (or tries to) the corresponding file. > >I do not want this to occur; i.e. I do not wish this file >type to be associated with the Distiller. If I look in >the properties and look for the association of this >file type I do not find AcroDist.exe as the application! > >I actually would like to associate GhostView with >.PS files; but, I cannot do this now -- Windows NT >keeps telling me that AcroDist is associated with .PS >files. > >How do I disassociate .PS files from the Distiller (AcroDist)? > >-- VPS > > > >__________________________________________________________ > >-> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- >*** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** >+ For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + >__________________________________________________________ > > __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 12-Oct-1998 7:28:07-GMT,2608;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA03539 for ; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 01:28:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA23872; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 02:08:45 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 12 Oct 1998 02:06:26 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA23737; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 02:06:24 -0500 Message-Id: <01BDF5BF.80176F20.fsjogren@folksam.se> From: fredrik.sjogren@folksam.se (Fredrik Sjogren) To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: SV: [PDF] Logging Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 09:05:46 +0200 Organization: Folksam X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet-e-post/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id CAA23733 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- > Från: Robert Walters [SMTP:robw@transitiontimes.com] > Skickat: den 10 oktober 1998 00:36 > Till: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Ämne: [PDF] Logging > > > ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > > Has anyone come across a program that creates a log file after conversion > to a pdf showing exactly how much each page, color and font makes up in the > total file size? Something like Macromedia's Flash 3 program does. > > __________________________________________________________ I`ll tihnk that Enfocus DoubleCheck does that. Read about it at www.enfocus.com. There is a 30 day demo avalible. \\fred -------------------------------------------------------------- Fredrik Sjögren Graphics R&D Folksam 106 60 Stocholm Sweden voice: +46 8 772 66 36 fax: +46 8 643 45 91 -------------------------------------------------------------- __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 12-Oct-1998 15:53:37-GMT,3631;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA13748 for ; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 09:53:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA14088; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 10:30:09 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 12 Oct 1998 10:27:01 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA13846; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 10:26:59 -0500 Message-ID: <36222E26.430AB4E3@empa.ch> Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 17:28:27 +0100 From: Erwin Widmer Organization: EMPA X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5b2 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: de-CH, en-US MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF Color separations References: <19981011015752.22081.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Denise, There are many different workflows possible. 1. You get a preseparated PDF. That means you have four files separated into Cyan, Magenta, Yellow and Black. Such files normally are easy to output with Acrobat Reader. Sometimes the screen angles are wrong. Check for that. 2. You get a composite PDF in CMYK color space. Now you need Crackerjack to do an output. Crackerjack defines the screen settings. 3. You get composite PDF in RGB color space. When I did test that version I couldn't find a solution. But I didn't test the newest Crackerjack version. Maybe it can handle that PDF version now. If the images have embedded ICC profiles, then there are methods to work with INRip-separation to get the right result out. 4. Maybe you have an other situation. I can think of some but wont elaborate about them here. Give more details if you need further help. Erwin Denise Knox wrote: > ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > > HELP! HELP!HELP! HELP! I work for a large newspaper in San Bernardino CA > and we're getting more and more PDF's in for our ads we also are > beginning to send PDF's to other papers. My problem is that when I send > a color PDF to the printer it doesn't separate properly. I either get > the same amount of colors on each separation or it just doesn't come > thru properly. My distiller is set up properly and I don't have "CMYK > to RGB checked. I'm really stumped and don't know how to fix it. Can any > of you PRO's out there help me?????? > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > __________________________________________________________ > > -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- > *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** > + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + > __________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 12-Oct-1998 16:59:33-GMT,7115;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA15987 for ; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 10:59:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA15854; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 10:59:00 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 12 Oct 1998 10:57:10 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA15698; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 10:57:06 -0500 Message-ID: <01BDF5BE.5CA8F550@marshall2100.autoiii.com> From: Geoff Marshall To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] PDF Color separations Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 08:57:37 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="---- =_NextPart_000_01BDF5BE.5CA8F550" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== ------ =_NextPart_000_01BDF5BE.5CA8F550 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Denise, Do you have "Distill with prologue.ps/epilogue.ps" enabled ? (this on Distiller/JobOptions/Advanced). You should check this and move/copy the prologue.ps and epilogue.ps files from ".\Xtras\High_end" to the base distiller directory. There is a "readme.txt" in thi folder to explain more. -----Original Message----- From: Denise Knox [SMTP:images_plus@hotmail.com] Sent: Saturday, October 10, 1998 6:58 PM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] PDF Color separations ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== HELP! HELP!HELP! HELP! I work for a large newspaper in San Bernardino CA and we're getting more and more PDF's in for our ads we also are beginning to send PDF's to other papers. My problem is that when I send a color PDF to the printer it doesn't separate properly. I either get the same amount of colors on each separation or it just doesn't come thru properly. My distiller is set up properly and I don't have "CMYK to RGB checked. I'm really stumped and don't know how to fix it. Can any of you PRO's out there help me?????? ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. 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Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 12-Oct-1998 19:43:16-GMT,2113;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA20670 for ; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 13:43:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA27431; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 14:15:22 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 12 Oct 1998 14:13:35 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA27278; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 14:13:34 -0500 Message-ID: <001601bdf614$f2ee1530$030010ac@dell2ntsvr1.Office> From: "Greg Pauba" To: Subject: [PDF] Testing Utility for PDF File Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 14:17:24 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Does anyone know of a utility to test the integrity of a pdf? I am looking at using Transender and have found numerous bad pages in the pdf. I did bring the original document into Exchange (I could page through it fine except for one page where I got a "Read less image data than expected") and tried resaving with optimized. This did not help. I wasn't able to process the pdf until I deleted four pages out of the 12 pages. Thanks for the help! __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 12-Oct-1998 22:02:15-GMT,2906;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA24289 for ; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 16:02:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA10497; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 16:45:05 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 12 Oct 1998 16:43:13 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA10312; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 16:43:08 -0500 From: colleen_m_boyce@graco.com Message-Id: <9810129082.AA908226868@graco.com> X-Mailer: ccMail Link to SMTP R8.11.00.3 Date: Mon, 12 Oct 98 16:11:33 -0600 To: Subject: [PDF] Re: pdf-digest for October-11-98 [V2 #343] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== From: "Denise Knox" Subject: [PDF] PDF Color separations HELP! HELP!HELP! HELP! I work for a large newspaper in San Bernardino CA and we're getting more and more PDF's in for our ads we also are beginning to send PDF's to other papers. My problem is that when I send a color PDF to the printer it doesn't separate properly. I either get the same amount of colors on each separation or it just doesn't come thru properly. My distiller is set up properly and I don't have "CMYK to RGB checked. I'm really stumped and don't know how to fix it. Can any of you PRO's out there help me?????? ----------------------- Here are a few comments that I hope will move you toward a solution to separating color images at the printer. Spot color gave us problems til we made some adjustments. HTH. Which ppd are you using? To retain spot color info, ie to prevent spot color conversion to process color, move the prologue.ps and epilogue.ps files fromthe Xtras folder to the Distiller folder. Then restart Distiller. Duotone .eps files, spot to spot color gradients, and colorized .tiff files must be preseparated prior to distilling, if you're using a level 1 or 2 printer. To distill these file types, select Apply transfer functions in the Distiller job options dialog box. Colleen Boyce Graco, Inc. Marketing Communications __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 13-Oct-1998 0:58:24-GMT,3680;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA28718 for ; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 18:58:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA28620; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 19:42:36 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 12 Oct 1998 19:40:52 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA28445; Mon, 12 Oct 1998 19:40:51 -0500 Message-ID: <3622AF62.C7196E32@wanadoo.fr> Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 02:39:46 +0100 From: Michel Lausseur Organization: AAlto Consultant X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [fr] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Separating Acrobat Indexes? References: <2.2.32.19981009004731.00d933f4@env-sol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== (About autoindexed PDF) After completing more detailed tests, I conclude that I was 50% wrong (therefore 50% right) : - the indexes activated by autoindexed PDF files are removed automatically at the end of the session (when closing Acrobat Reader or Exchange) - BUT the indexes activated manually by the end-user are not removed automatically ; they remain active until manual removing Thus two cases can lead to unpredictable results, when using autoindexed PDF : - when the user access several PDF bases within the same session (on some worstations, the Reader is opened on morning and closed on evening fell) ; the normal end-user is not supposed to be familiar with search indexes - when the user has forgotten removing current manual indexes ; in this case the user who has manually set the index is probably able to remove them Tom Thiersch a écrit: > ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > > No invention needed, just a visit to the Index Selection dialog. > > There, you can always de-select one or more indexes for the current query, > whether they were attached via autoindex or are permanently defined. > > Tom Thiersch > > At 02:17 AM 10/9/98 +0100, you wrote: > > > >====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > > > >Another problem with autoindex feature is that you are able to > >automatically add one additional index when loading a PDF file, but not > >able to remove current indexes. > >So the result of your queries depend on the context of previous searches on > >every workstation. > >There should be an "auto-index-off" feature ; does any implementation > >exists for this concept I have just invented ? > >Michel Lausseur > >Aalto Consultant > > > > __________________________________________________________ > > -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- > *** Sponsorship & Advt. 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Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 13-Oct-1998 13:13:49-GMT,2724;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA13480 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 07:13:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA04395; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 07:54:29 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 13 Oct 1998 07:49:37 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA03376; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 07:49:34 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: KEYCORP From: "Karen L Mibus" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <8525669C.0045BC45.00@keybank.com> Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 08:46:24 -0400 Subject: RE: [PDF] Acrobat Preferences Page Cache Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Why isn't "Use page cache" selected by default? Are there any special considerations to make before selecting this option? I'm asking these questions because it seems like page caching makes online viewing quicker and, if there are no adverse side effects from using this option, then I'd like to suggest our users to verify their "Use page cache" is selected. --Karen quite@dial.pipex.com on 10/09/98 05:11:25 PM Please respond to pdf@lists.pdfzone.com To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com cc: (bcc: Karen L Mibus/NE/KSC/KeyCorp) Subject: RE: [PDF] Acrobat Preferences Page Cache ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > Does anyone know what enabling "Use page cache" on the > Preferences dialog > box will do? "Use Page Cache specifies placing the next page into a buffer to reduce the amount of time it takes to page through a document." (Exchange help, page 62). Aandi __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. 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Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 13-Oct-1998 14:51:06-GMT,8630;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA15547 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 08:50:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA18245; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 09:16:07 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 13 Oct 1998 09:14:39 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA17963; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 09:14:36 -0500 Message-ID: <004701bdf6b4$72deeb80$2a5247ce@newmicronpc> From: "Neal Anderson" To: Subject: [PDF] Draft: White Paper on PDF searching with MS Index Server using Adobe IFilter Plug-in Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 08:17:56 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Thanks to Stuart, Josh, and others who have offered tidbits of advice. I am doing a lot of reading and thought I would write down what I have learned so far. Please feel free to respond with comments. I will fold these into this White Paper then re-publish. Once I get everything up and running, I will also publish one final time. Again, thanks for your help. Neal ==== Searchable PDF's delivered BYTESERVED over the Internet Gist This procedure outlines the steps required to search several PDF files using HTML code installed on a web page. Goal Provide the web site viewing customer the ability to enter catalog data (model numbers, loads, lengths, etc.,) click SEND, then have an html page displayed with a list of links. The customer reviews the list, then clicks on the link they feel is the most appropriate. This action displays a single page from one of the five catalogs. Inputs I have five PDF files of five catalogs. Files originated in Adobe Pagemaker, exported to PDF, were then distilled (saved as) with the Acrobat Exchange to be BYTESERVABLE (one page at a time). At this point, I think I have to create an index file using all five catalogs as a source. I think the index file is what actually gets searched by the query form. Outputs The link created with the search program must return the page of the PDF file. The page must be included with the link, so when the link is clicked, it sends this information to the byteserveable PDF file to display the correct page using the Adobe Acrobat reader. Insights Acrobat has built-in search and find commands for specific tests. The customer can use these while a catalog is displayed. So, there is already a "manual" mode. Since there are only five catalogs, some customers may choose to go directly to the catalog and skip the search functionality. Adobe does NOT make a search engine that enables you to search the contents of all PDF files on a web site. Adobe does make a PDF Ifilter plug-in for Microsoft Index Server. There are third-party PDF search engines. They are expensive. They are probably more powerful and function rich than what we need for our application. Background The Microsoft Index Server (MS IS) is a search engine for the Microsoft Information Server and Windows NT Server. It allows any web browser to search a document for key words, phrases, or properties. Adobe has built a PDF IFilter plug-in to be used with the MS IS to enable indexing of PDF files (either singly or in a group). Articles discussing main aspects of this process: www.adobe.com (then click search, enter IFilter or pdf search or pdf catalog or search pdf or catalog pdf) www.itsoftware.com/help/default.htm (MS IS guide) Gotcha's Somewhere I have read that the Microsoft IE browser supports a single page found by a search engine where the Netscape browser does not. If this turns out to be true, we will have to mention this to our customers on the page containing the search input form. They will have to go to the IE if they want the PDF search to work. Server Install the Microsoft Index Server Software Install the Adobe IFilter Web Understand the whole querying process. There are several files that have to be created and installed on the web server to support the search engine HTML code placed on the web page (one .idq file and one .htx file in addition to the file that contains the HTML code containing the query form.) The HTML code could be placed on an existing web page, of course. The .idq file contains information that is passed into the seach engine along with keywords the customer enters into the query form. It defines query parameters such as the scope of the search, any restrictions, and query results sets. The .htx file contains variables that refer to data in a query results set. It defines the page header that displays the query restriction and the documents displayed on the page the user sees. The .htx file is written in tandem with the variables in the .idq file. The .htx file is a template that formats how results are returned to the user. There exist sample .idq and .htx files. So, what I have to figure out is how to write an .idq file and .htx file to display the found results of a search and make sure that the displayed HTML code displayed on the returned page is indeed a clickable, working link. I also have to create the code to include on a web page to display the query box, as well copy the support files for the query box. QUERY (this goes on the PRODUCTS page)
Enter your query:
IDQ [Query] CiColumns= CiFlags= CiRestriction=%CiRestriction% CiMaxRecordsInResultSet=100 CiMaxRecordsPerPage=10 CiScope=/pdfs CiTemplate=/_private/query.htx CiSort=rank[d] CiCatalog= (CiCatalog points to the index to use, I think this means that we have to create an index of the five PDF files, then store it on the server... I think Acrobat Exchange will do this for us, it also sounds like something the MS IS does with a daemon in the background) Figure out how to configure the HTX to send back the PDF filespec, as well as the page within that PDF file. This should be in the index file pointed to by the variable CiCatalog, I think This is a sample HTX and I will have to figure out how to edit it to be in synch with the IDQ file to display the correct link back to the found page within the PDF file located on the server. HTX <%if CIMatchedRecordCount eq 0%>

"<%CiRestrictionHTML%>" information not found in catalogs.

<%else%>

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<%endif%> __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 13-Oct-1998 15:55:08-GMT,2690;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA17364 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 09:55:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA29653; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 10:32:14 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 13 Oct 1998 10:30:29 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA29354; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 10:30:27 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Acrobat Preferences Page Cache Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 15:30:36 +0100 Message-ID: <000101bdf6be$1ffdfc80$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <8525669C.0045BC45.00@keybank.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > Why isn't "Use page cache" selected by default? Are there any special > considerations to make before selecting this option? I'm asking these > questions because it seems like page caching makes online > viewing quicker > and, if there are no adverse side effects from using this > option, then I'd > like to suggest our users to verify their "Use page cache" is > selected. I can't think why it should be off. It may be historical; back when 4M systems were common, there might not be enough RAM to do the job. Acrobat always uses a form of page cacheing in full screen mode; it must do, otherwise it couldn't do the transition effects. I'd like it if Acrobat would cache the current page, but that doesn't seem possible (so it is always redrawn slowly). At one time, I believe page cacheing only worked on 256 colour screens. Again, this may have been to conserve memory. I've not seen any reference to this restriction lately. Aandi __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 13-Oct-1998 17:04:38-GMT,1619;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA19228 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 11:04:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA06062; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 11:45:36 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 13 Oct 1998 11:44:10 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA05899; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 11:44:05 -0500 Message-ID: <36238189.9CDDE513@dwsd.org> Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 12:36:25 -0400 From: "James Balogh" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "pdf@lists.emrg.com" Subject: [PDF] Distiller Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== I am trying to run Distiller as a Network Service on NT. Anyone have any suggestions? __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 13-Oct-1998 18:47:32-GMT,2823;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA22049 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 12:47:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA15582; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 13:07:34 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 13 Oct 1998 13:06:42 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA15481; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 13:06:41 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: KEYCORP From: "Karen L Mibus" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <8525669C.0061B7BA.00@keybank.com> Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 13:54:06 -0400 Subject: RE: [PDF] Acrobat Preferences Page Cache Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Thanks, Aandi! I will suggest to our clients to select "Use page cache". For those who were interested in The PDF Bible discussion, I purchased the book only to find that for questions about topics like choosing "Use page cache" on the Preferences dialog box, the author (Mark Witkowski) only provides a list of selections one can make (the obvious). He does not provide explanations for these selections, except for font smoothing (p. 191-192). When I purchase a book that proposes to be so inclusive of information beyond current market sources that it can call itself a "bible," I expect more detailed explanations than the online help. In this case, Mark provided less of an explanation. --Karen Aandi wrote: I can't think why it should be off. It may be historical; back when 4M systems were common, there might not be enough RAM to do the job. Acrobat always uses a form of page cacheing in full screen mode; it must do, otherwise it couldn't do the transition effects. I'd like it if Acrobat would cache the current page, but that doesn't seem possible (so it is always redrawn slowly). At one time, I believe page cacheing only worked on 256 colour screens. Again, this may have been to conserve memory. I've not seen any reference to this restriction lately. Aandi __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 13-Oct-1998 19:35:28-GMT,1642;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA23266 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 13:35:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA16523; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 13:15:10 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 13 Oct 1998 13:14:06 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA16386; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 13:14:03 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: KEYCORP From: "Karen L Mibus" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <8525669C.0063C352.00@keybank.com> Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 14:10:54 -0400 Subject: RE: [PDF] Acrobat Preferences Page Cache Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Sorry everyone! I intended to forward a discussion to my co-worker, Doug, and I inadvertently sent it to the pdf@lists! --Karen __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 13-Oct-1998 19:36:03-GMT,2052;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA23272 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 13:35:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA12572; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 12:44:30 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 13 Oct 1998 12:42:08 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA12226; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 12:42:05 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Distiller Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 18:13:22 +0100 Message-ID: <000401bdf6d0$84fac7a0$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <36238189.9CDDE513@dwsd.org> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== According to the Developer FAQ, no part of Acrobat is supported as an NT service (http://beta1.adobe.com/ada/acrosdk). Is that the same as a Network Service? But, I have seen reports that Microsoft's SVRANY is successful for Distiller. Aandi > I am trying to run Distiller as a Network Service on NT. Anyone have > any suggestions? __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 13-Oct-1998 19:36:25-GMT,2292;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA23280 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 13:36:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA14954; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 13:00:32 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 13 Oct 1998 12:57:40 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA14481; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 12:57:39 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19981013140722.00912240@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 14:07:22 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] File type assocation In-Reply-To: <36200B84.8E61DD0A@neuro.ki.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > >I actually would like to associate GhostView with >.PS files; but, I cannot do this now -- Windows NT >keeps telling me that AcroDist is associated with .PS >files. > >How do I disassociate .PS files from the Distiller (AcroDist)? > Try this: Highlight a PS file in Explorer (single-leftclick it) Hold down the SHIFT key while you rightclick the highlighted file. You should see an Open With option on the popup menu. Click that and choose the program you want associate with PS files. There'll be a check box lower left to Always use this program for ... (or language to that effect.) Put an X in that checkbox and OK. Steve Rindsberg/Prez RDP http://www.rdpslides.com __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 13-Oct-1998 19:36:36-GMT,2655;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA23292 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 13:36:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA14953; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 13:00:32 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 13 Oct 1998 12:59:15 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA14809; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 12:59:13 -0500 Subject: Re: [PDF] Distributing Acrobat Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 12:00:10 -0700 x-sender: dennisw@mail.inpractice.net x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: Dennis Walker To: "PDF Mail List" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-ID: <1303842485-77142427@mail.inpractice.net> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Paul Dennis (paul@completepicture.co.uk) wrote on 10/13/98 10:05 AM: >As we cannot amend the Installer Adobe need to make sure that any >subsequent install 3.0 to 3.01 for example removes the old one. Also >the installer needs to check for existing installations. > >Anyone else had problems/solutions in this area ? Yes, I constantly run into this with the membership that I support. Invariably a user will have v2.1 already installed from the install of a browser or other web utility (yet they don't know it). Our files require them to use 3.0.x., which they are instructed to download and use. I have found that most users have the bad habit of just double-clicking on files, rather than launching the proper app and doing a File/Open. So many times our users have trouble with our files, because Windows choses automatically to open the (double-clicked) PDF file using v2.1 instead of 3.0.x. Dennis Walker dennisw@inpractice.net EVP/Production Mgr. 435-647-9910 InPractice Publications, Inc. 435-647-5927 fax __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 13-Oct-1998 19:37:17-GMT,2391;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA23316 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 13:37:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA07385; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 12:03:02 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 13 Oct 1998 12:01:58 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA07293; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 12:01:57 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 18:05 +0100 (BST) From: paul@completepicture.co.uk (Paul Dennis) Subject: [PDF] Distributing Acrobat To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com CC: paul@completepicture.co.uk Message-Id: Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Hello everybody, I've just got off another support call re Acrobat and I thought it would be worth sharing the problem. We use Acrobat on our Cd and distribute 6000 copies every 4 months. This also includes a plug in. The problem we have is when the user has or has had multiple installations of reader on the machine. It would appear that other distributors do not stick to the default c:\acrobat3\reader location (Auto desk is one). When you want to include a plug-in even a search for acrord32.exe cannot always work and acrobat cannot find the plug in. As we cannot amend the Installer Adobe need to make sure that any subsequent install 3.0 to 3.01 for example removes the old one. Also the installer needs to check for existing installations. Anyone else had problems/solutions in this area ? Paul Dennis Complete Picture London paul@completepicture.co.uk __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 13-Oct-1998 19:37:39-GMT,3279;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA23301 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 13:36:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA16164; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 13:10:36 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 13 Oct 1998 13:09:37 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA15915; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 13:09:33 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: KEYCORP From: "Karen L Mibus" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com, quite@dial.pipex.com Message-ID: <8525669C.00628D50.00@keybank.com> Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 14:06:15 -0400 Subject: [PDF] Acrobat Preferences Use Page Cache Option Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== HI, Doug: Per the following discussion, I think we should suggest to our clients to verify "Use page cache" is selected on their Reader Preferences dialog box. (File | Preferences | General). It sounds like the pages will draw more quickly. I wrote: > Why isn't "Use page cache" selected by default? Are there any special > considerations to make before selecting this option? I'm asking these > questions because it seems like page caching makes online > viewing quicker > and, if there are no adverse side effects from using this > option, then I'd > like to suggest our users to verify their "Use page cache" is > selected. Aandi wrote: I can't think why it should be off. It may be historical; back when 4M systems were common, there might not be enough RAM to do the job. Acrobat always uses a form of page cacheing in full screen mode; it must do, otherwise it couldn't do the transition effects. I'd like it if Acrobat would cache the current page, but that doesn't seem possible (so it is always redrawn slowly). At one time, I believe page cacheing only worked on 256 colour screens. Again, this may have been to conserve memory. I've not seen any reference to this restriction lately. I wrote: > Does anyone know what enabling "Use page cache" on the > Preferences dialog > box will do? Aandi wrote: Use Page Cache specifies placing the next page into a buffer to reduce the amount of time it takes to page through a document. __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 13-Oct-1998 19:53:59-GMT,1951;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA23743 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 13:53:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA24055; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 14:27:56 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 13 Oct 1998 14:25:53 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA23886; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 14:25:51 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Epps, Fred W" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Creating Postscript using Acrobat Reader Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 12:25:45 -0700 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== I am running Reader 3.01 under SunOS 4.1.4 (also Reader 3.0 under Solaris 2.5.1) and had this happen: A 32 Meg pdf file (with lots of graphics!) became a 1.7 Gig Postscript file! The same 32 Meg pdf file on a Windows 95 system using the Adobe Printer Driver 4.2.3 was only 41 Meg in Postscript. Why? Any clues? Any workarounds? Fred.W.Epps@Boeing.com __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 13-Oct-1998 20:01:52-GMT,3920;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA23956 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 14:01:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA25264; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 14:44:31 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 13 Oct 1998 14:43:24 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA25175; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 14:43:23 -0500 Message-ID: <3623AB7F.731E27C5@dwsd.org> Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 15:35:28 -0400 From: "James Balogh" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Distiller References: <000401bdf6d0$84fac7a0$0101c6c0@gateway> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------0E16BDAD84943E83C1DDC30C" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== --------------0E16BDAD84943E83C1DDC30C Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks Aandi, We're working with SVRANY... haven't gotten it to work yet. Yes it should have read "...as a service on..." Thanks again....jrb Aandi Inston wrote: > ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > > According to the Developer FAQ, no part of Acrobat is supported > as an NT service (http://beta1.adobe.com/ada/acrosdk). Is that > the same as a Network Service? > > But, I have seen reports that Microsoft's SVRANY is successful for > Distiller. > > Aandi > > > I am trying to run Distiller as a Network Service on NT. Anyone have > > any suggestions? > > __________________________________________________________ > > -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- > *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** > + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + > __________________________________________________________ --------------0E16BDAD84943E83C1DDC30C Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks Aandi,
We're working with SVRANY... haven't gotten it to work yet.
Yes it should have read "...as a service on..."

Thanks again....jrb

Aandi Inston wrote:

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According to the Developer FAQ, no part of Acrobat is supported
as an NT service (http://beta1.adobe.com/ada/acrosdk).  Is that
the same as a Network Service?

But, I have seen reports that Microsoft's SVRANY is successful for
Distiller.

Aandi

> I am trying to run Distiller as a Network Service on NT.  Anyone have
> any suggestions?

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Is there a plug-in or utility? TIA Greg Pauba __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 13-Oct-1998 20:36:29-GMT,2781;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA24855 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 14:35:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA28528; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 15:15:54 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 13 Oct 1998 15:14:50 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA28362; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 15:14:48 -0500 Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 16:13:12 -0400 From: olaf druemmer Subject: Re: [PDF] Creating Postscript using Acrobat Reader To: PDF listserver Message-ID: <199810131613_MC2-5C96-4498@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id PAA28357 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Fred, >A 32 Meg pdf file (with lots of graphics!) became a 1.7 Gig Postscript >file! > >The same 32 Meg pdf file on a Windows 95 system using the Adobe Printer >Driver 4.2.3 was only 41 Meg in Postscript. may be due to compression. 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Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 13-Oct-1998 21:12:37-GMT,4693;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA25723 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 15:12:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA30940; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 15:45:23 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 13 Oct 1998 15:43:46 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA30688; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 15:43:44 -0500 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19981013204247.00d98528@env-sol.com> X-Sender: thiersch@env-sol.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 13:42:47 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Tom Thiersch Subject: Re: [PDF] Distributing Acrobat Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Paul, Yep, a great many of the trouble calls I have to deal with have similar causes. There are many more parts to this problem, in addition to the ones you've mentioned. First, I would not suggest looking for ACRORD32.EXE, since this is subject to change. The only reasonably safe way to look for Acrobat is to examine the appropriate registry keys, which will then allow you to extract the path to where the executable is installed. Of course, this will only work if Acrobat has been installed correctly! There are (far too) many PCs where users have used their own home-grown Installers, or have just copied the Acrobat directories to their hard disk, or are executing Acrobat off a server disk, etc.; in these situations, where the expected Registry entries don't exist or are only partially correct, you'll have a hard time with any installer for your own modules. And, of course, there are those PCs where multiple versions of Acrobat attempt to coexist, either on purpose or (more commonly) out of users' ignorance; most people just don't know that they should remove the prior version before installing the new one, and the Acrobat installer provides no support for checking to make sure that prior versions have been removed. I agree that the Acrobat Installer needs to be updated: 1. To InstallShield Version 5, so that it can be more seamlessly incorporated into a series of other setups. 2. To check for any/all prior versions of Reader and/or Exchange, to warn the user and provide guidance, and to give the user choices for uninstalling the prior version(s) either automatically or manually. ABCPY.INI is a nice first step toward more customized installations, but another level of sophistication in the logic of the installer itself is needed to deal with pre-existing versions. Tom Thiersch At 06:05 PM 10/13/98 +0100, you wrote: > >====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > >Hello everybody, > >I've just got off another support call re Acrobat and I thought it >would be worth sharing the problem. We use Acrobat on our Cd and >distribute 6000 copies every 4 months. This also includes a plug in. >The problem we have is when the user has or has had multiple >installations of reader on the machine. It would appear that other >distributors do not stick to the default c:\acrobat3\reader location >(Auto desk is one). When you want to include a plug-in even a search >for acrord32.exe cannot always work and acrobat cannot find the plug >in. > >As we cannot amend the Installer Adobe need to make sure that any >subsequent install 3.0 to 3.01 for example removes the old one. Also >the installer needs to check for existing installations. > >Anyone else had problems/solutions in this area ? > >Paul Dennis >Complete Picture London >paul@completepicture.co.uk > >__________________________________________________________ > >-> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- >*** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** >+ For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + >__________________________________________________________ > > __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 13-Oct-1998 22:24:59-GMT,2866;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA27457 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 16:24:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA04226; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 17:04:48 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 13 Oct 1998 17:01:56 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA04068; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 17:01:55 -0500 From: "Michael Peters" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Distributing Acrobat Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 22:57:22 +0100 Message-ID: <000e01bdf6f4$b9077a10$0280227b@michael> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <2.2.32.19981013204247.00d98528@env-sol.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > 1. To InstallShield Version 5, so that it can be more seamlessly >incorporated into a series of other setups. > > 2. To check for any/all prior versions of Reader and/or Exchange, to warn >the user and provide guidance, and to give the user choices for uninstalling >the prior version(s) either automatically or manually. > >ABCPY.INI is a nice first step toward more customized installations, but >another level of sophistication in the logic of the installer itself is >needed to deal with pre-existing versions. I agree. We have the problem of needing to have Acrobat Reader 3.01 rather than 3.0 available because we also need to have JavaScript support with Forms 3.5. On the Mac there is no ABCPY.INI and if you want to call the existing Mac installers for installing both the Reader and the Form Filler plug-in then you can't because the installers insist on closing all other applications, including the calling installer. This means that the users on the Mac have to run three separate installs in the correct order: 1. Acrobat Reader 2. Form Filler plug-in 3. Our custom plug-ins. Regards Michael Peters __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 14-Oct-1998 3:06:12-GMT,2685;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA03449 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 21:06:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA12911; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 21:49:26 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 13 Oct 1998 21:47:27 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA12507; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 21:47:23 -0500 Message-Id: From: "Callaway, Rebecca" To: "'Post to PDF listserve'" Subject: [PDF] Capture 2.01 and OCR Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 19:45:00 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.996.62 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Hi PDF'ers - I've just been getting my head into Capture and trying to OCR some documents. >From what I've done so far (wtihout reading the manuals, very much), it seems that OCR is not in effect for turn pages. That is, all pages seem to have be oriented North-South in their TIF form before processing in Capture. You can rotate them in Exchange, but that doesn't help with the indexing. Is this true? Is there a setting to change this behavior? If not, it means much manual intervention after the scan to check page orientations and rotate those that require it. Does anyone know any applications that can "rotate all pages"? Currently, we have tried the Wang Image software that now comes in the Win 95 accessories, as well as Photoshop 4. Also, we are doing Image and Text PDF, so I imagine this produces the biggest files. We do not want to build a lot of human proofing in the process to get hardcopy posted to the web, so we have to let Capture leave the image in place. Is there something we can do after the PDF is created to optimize the size? If there is, can it be done in batch? thx - Rebecca __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 14-Oct-1998 3:27:21-GMT,3942;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA03879 for ; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 21:27:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA17621; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 22:12:38 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 13 Oct 1998 22:11:35 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA17342; Tue, 13 Oct 1998 22:11:34 -0500 Message-ID: From: Duff Johnson To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Capture 2.01 and OCR Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 20:15:15 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > From what I've done so far (wtihout reading the manuals, very > much), it > seems that OCR is not in effect for turn pages. That is, all > pages seem > to have be oriented North-South in their TIF form before processing in > Capture. You can rotate them in Exchange, but that doesn't help with > the indexing. Is this true? Is there a setting to change this > behavior? If not, it means much manual intervention after the scan to > check page orientations and rotate those that require it. There are automation tools to help with this (ScanFix comes to mind), but, yes, manual rotation is sometimes necessary, but worth it. When you read the manual, you'll discover that Capture claims the capacity to rotate your pages correctly. However... after a while, you'll figure out that it's better not to trust Capture too far on this. > Does anyone know any applications that can "rotate all pages"? > Currently, we have tried the Wang Image software that now comes in the > Win 95 accessories, as well as Photoshop 4. The WangImage thing is junk. Photoshop could do it... but you're using (I hope) Group 4 TIFFs...which photoshop can't open... As above - ScanFix. > Also, we are doing Image and Text PDF, so I imagine this produces the > biggest files. We do not want to build a lot of human proofing in the > process to get hardcopy posted to the web, so we have to let Capture > leave the image in place. Is there something we can do after > the PDF is > created to optimize the size? We rarely reccomend I+T for the Web - for precisely this reason. Unless the prospective download audience are all using T1 lines, I+T is a pain! You may wish to consider going for PDF/Normal. With training and careful instruction, good PDF/Normal results can be had with a (relative) minimum of human intervention. Contrary to popular belief, achieving this happy state of affairs is not mean trick. Many folks outsource their PDF/Normal conversions because it's often cost-effective to do so. Really all depends on the complexity of the page layouts, the nature of the text (< 9 point text, itals, etc) the quality of your scans and the training and skill of the conversion operators. regards, Duff Johnson President, Document Solutions, Inc. 1611 Telegraph Avenue, Suite 1010 Oakland, CA 94612 510-986-0250 FAX: 510-986-0636 duffj@document-solutions.com www.document-solutions.com __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 14-Oct-1998 11:05:37-GMT,2061;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA12687 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 05:05:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA30337; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 05:45:26 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 14 Oct 1998 05:43:16 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA29796; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 05:43:13 -0500 From: "Solvera" To: Subject: [PDF] Converting Reader v3.0 files for Reader v2.0 Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 15:35:44 +0100 Message-ID: <000001bdf75e$d3f558a0$3dc448c2@internet> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <199810051445.JAA04071@everglades.binc.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Hi All, I am looking for a way to back-convert PDFs written using Exchange 3.0 into PDFs suitable for use with Reader 2. There MUST be a way I can't re-distill the files in question (500 off); they were originally created using Capture 2, and cropped in Exchange 3.0. Hope you can help... Darryl __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 14-Oct-1998 12:14:48-GMT,2532;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA13938 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 06:14:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA08364; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 06:53:16 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 14 Oct 1998 06:52:00 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA08251; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 06:51:58 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19981014080144.008f0a80@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 08:01:44 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] Creating Postscript using Acrobat Reader In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== >I am running Reader 3.01 under SunOS 4.1.4 (also Reader 3.0 under >Solaris 2.5.1) and had this happen: > >A 32 Meg pdf file (with lots of graphics!) became a 1.7 Gig Postscript >file! > >The same 32 Meg pdf file on a Windows 95 system using the Adobe Printer >Driver 4.2.3 was only 41 Meg in Postscript. > >Why? > Try printing a page from each and look at the resulting PS. The recent PS drivers under Win95 tend to produce much more compact PS than previously, if only because it's much terser than ever before. If the PS from Solaris is more like "by the book" PS, it'd be far more verbose. Easier to read (if one's inclined to do that sort of thing) but much larger files. Bitmaps may be represented as ascii rather than binary, things like that as well. >Any workarounds? > Print from Windows? Steve Rindsberg/Prez RDP http://www.rdpslides.com __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 14-Oct-1998 12:27:26-GMT,2690;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA14170 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 06:27:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA10296; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 07:15:37 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 14 Oct 1998 07:14:40 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA10035; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 07:14:38 -0500 X-Sender: prodok@pop.eunet.ch Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <000001bdf75e$d3f558a0$3dc448c2@internet> References: <199810051445.JAA04071@everglades.binc.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 14:13:56 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Max Wyss Subject: Re: [PDF] Converting Reader v3.0 files for Reader v2.0 Cc: "Solvera" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Darryl, why do you need Reader 2 compatibility at all? Acrobat 3 has so many additional functions that Reader 2 is indeed obsolete. So, have your users update to the very newest Reader. Otherwise, redistilling is the only way I know to get from Acrobat 3 level to Acrobat 2 level. To make things easier, you might look at a macro package where you could automatisize the redistilling. Hope, this can help. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering AG Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Phone: +41 1 700 29 21 Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch WWW: http://www.prodok.ch/prodok Bridging the Knowledge Gap ______________________ >Hi All, > >I am looking for a way to back-convert PDFs written using Exchange 3.0 into >PDFs suitable for use with Reader 2. There MUST be a way > >I can't re-distill the files in question (500 off); they were originally >created using Capture 2, and cropped in Exchange 3.0. > >Hope you can help... > >Darryl __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 14-Oct-1998 13:40:41-GMT,3093;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA15608 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 07:40:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA14345; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 08:05:44 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 14 Oct 1998 08:00:32 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA13305; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 08:00:30 -0500 From: "Darryl Lucas (Solvera, Handforth, UK)" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Converting Reader v3.0 files for Reader v2.0 Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 13:55:55 +0100 Message-ID: <000101bdf772$001747a0$fc7175c1@win95> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Max, I can't re-distil, the page source is TIFF. My customer needs Reader 2 compatibility until they manage to approve the deployment of Reader 3 on their site. Does anyone else have any ideas? Darryl ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Darryl, why do you need Reader 2 compatibility at all? Acrobat 3 has so many additional functions that Reader 2 is indeed obsolete. So, have your users update to the very newest Reader. Otherwise, redistilling is the only way I know to get from Acrobat 3 level to Acrobat 2 level. To make things easier, you might look at a macro package where you could automatisize the redistilling. Hope, this can help. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering AG Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Phone: +41 1 700 29 21 Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch WWW: http://www.prodok.ch/prodok Bridging the Knowledge Gap ______________________ >Hi All, > >I am looking for a way to back-convert PDFs written using Exchange 3.0 into >PDFs suitable for use with Reader 2. There MUST be a way > >I can't re-distill the files in question (500 off); they were originally >created using Capture 2, and cropped in Exchange 3.0. > >Hope you can help... > >Darryl __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. 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X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.07 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Converting Reader v3.0 files for Reader v2.0 References: <000101bdf772$001747a0$fc7175c1@win95> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Max Wyss wrote: > Otherwise, redistilling is the only way I know to get from Acrobat 3 level to > Acrobat 2 level. To make things easier, you might look at a macro package > where you could automatisize the redistilling. Darryl Lucas (Solvera, Handforth, UK) wrote: > I can't re-distil, the page source is TIFF. I assume that what he means is: Load Acro3 doc into Exchange 3 (or Reader 3) Print Acro3 doc to PostScript file Distil PostScript file to Acro2 If I am misinterpreting your intentions, Max, feel free to throw virtual bricks at me. > My customer needs Reader 2 compatibility until they manage to approve the > deployment of Reader 3 on their site. Ain't bureaucracy wonderful, folks! But seriously, this does sound like a major waste of your time and resources. > Does anyone else have any ideas? Can't think of any other way to do it. Cheers, Chris (the big one) Chris Cooper, Emtex Ltd, Watford, UK "Tall, dark and gruesome - and then I grew some more!" __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 14-Oct-1998 15:08:14-GMT,1803;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA17486 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 09:07:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA26808; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 09:43:33 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 14 Oct 1998 09:41:18 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA26362; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 09:41:16 -0500 Message-ID: <3624C68F.48EE@dallas.net> Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 09:43:18 -0600 From: Tony Guerry Organization: KT Publishing X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] High Rez Photos in PDFs?? References: <000101bdf772$001747a0$fc7175c1@win95> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== I can't seem to get high resolution photos to show up in my PDF files. I have played with the Distiller job options quite a bit. Are there any tips or steps to follow to get this?? Thanks, Tony __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 14-Oct-1998 15:35:01-GMT,2431;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA18192 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 09:34:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA00583; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 10:21:34 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 14 Oct 1998 10:19:11 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA00169; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 10:19:08 -0500 Message-Id: <199810141519.IAA06182@condor.prod.itd.earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.0c (197) Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 07:50:11 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] MEGA PROJECT From: "C. Scott Miller" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== >I'd appreciate your help and ideas about a mega-project. I plan to scan >about 400.000 pages and convert them to PDF. I suppose that the final >disk space may be about 50 Gb. Furthermore I need to index all the >database. > >Does Acrobat Capture and Catalog may be powerful enough? > >Any suggestion about software and hardware is welcome. The best way to index them and make them available immediately through a browser is with a new product called InfoPortal from Glyphica. See their recent product announcement, reformatted to HTML, on my site at http://www.performancegraphics.com/Pages/portalware.html. C. Scott Miller PDF R_e_s_e_a_r_c_h__C_o_m_p_a_n_i_o_n A Designer's Guide to Adobe's Portable Document Format http://www.performancegraphics.com a production of Performance Graphics miller@performancegraphics.com __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 14-Oct-1998 15:35:57-GMT,2438;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA18203 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 09:35:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA31341; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 10:09:25 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 14 Oct 1998 10:06:50 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA30816; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 10:06:48 -0500 Message-ID: <3624CC99.DFE@archangel.net> Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 11:08:57 -0500 From: Shane Steinman Organization: ArchAngel Media Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] High Rez Photos in PDFs?? References: <000101bdf772$001747a0$fc7175c1@win95> <3624C68F.48EE@dallas.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Tony Guerry wrote: > I can't seem to get high resolution photos to show up in my PDF files. > I have played with the Distiller job options quite a bit. > > Are there any tips or steps to follow to get this?? Havbe you tried looking here...? http://www.adobe.com/supportservice/custsupport/SOLUTIONS/13136.htm Cheers, Shane -- Shane Steinman Technical Director =================================================================== ArchAngel Media Inc. 555 Sheppard Ave. West, Suite 910 Toronto, Ontario, CANADA M3H 2R7 ================================= Tel. or Fax: (416) 410-6366 E-mail: shane@archangel.net Web: http://www.archangel.net __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 14-Oct-1998 15:39:57-GMT,2027;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA18295 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 09:39:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA01115; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 10:24:31 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 14 Oct 1998 10:22:18 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA00707; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 10:22:16 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Converting Reader v3.0 files for Reader v2.0 Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 16:18:13 +0100 Message-ID: <000301bdf786$25c9c360$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <000101bdf772$001747a0$fc7175c1@win95> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > I can't re-distil, the page source is TIFF. You can (almost) always redistill. Print to file using a PostScript driver, and re-distill the result. Be aware that TIFF import is an Acrobat 3 feature, so is OCR, so there will be no direct 2.0 compatability. Aandi __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 14-Oct-1998 15:42:24-GMT,2011;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA18350 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 09:42:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA01913; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 10:29:13 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 14 Oct 1998 10:26:29 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA01397; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 10:26:28 -0500 Message-ID: <36254F68.EED44C4@realworld.com.au> Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 01:27:08 +0000 From: Dean Laffan X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] High Rez Photos in PDFs?? References: <000101bdf772$001747a0$fc7175c1@win95> <3624C68F.48EE@dallas.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Tony Guerry wrote: > I can't seem to get high resolution photos to show up in my PDF files. > I have played with the Distiller job options quite a bit. What do you mean *show up* ? They don't display ?, don't display at a quality you like ? What settings have you played with ? What platform and what sort of hi res images ? Dean __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 14-Oct-1998 15:56:24-GMT,3995;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA18707 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 09:56:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA04045; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 10:38:31 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 14 Oct 1998 10:34:36 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA03029; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 10:34:28 -0500 Message-ID: <3618FAF100003D3D@mailhost.jdpub.com> (added by mailhost.jdpub.com) Date: 14 Oct 98 09:11:24 -0600 From: Jeff Rochon Subject: RE: [PDF] High Rez Photos in PDFs?? To: pdf X-Mailer: QuickMail Pro 1.5.3 (Mac) X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-Ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id KAA03010 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Reply to: RE: [PDF] High Rez Photos in PDFs?? hi tony, do you mean that they don't show up at all or show in low-res? what format are the original hi-res images saved? i have found that 5-file eps [dcs] images will only image the low-res preview in a composite postscript file. you may have to save your hi-res images in a different format to get them to work. jeff Tony Guerry wrote: > >====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > >I can't seem to get high resolution photos to show up in my PDF files. >I have played with the Distiller job options quite a bit. > >Are there any tips or steps to follow to get this?? > >Thanks, > >Tony > >__________________________________________________________ > >-> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- >*** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** >+ For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + >__________________________________________________________ > > >RFC822 header >----------------------------------- > > Return-Path: > Received: from everglades.binc.net (208.155.48.8) by mailhost.jdpub.com >(Worldmail 1.3.167) for jrochon@wi.jdtv.com; 14 Oct 1998 09:34:32 -0500 > Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) > by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA26476; > Wed, 14 Oct 1998 09:41:52 -0500 > Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 14 Oct 1998 >09:41:18 -0500 > Received: (from majordom@localhost) > by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA26362; > Wed, 14 Oct 1998 09:41:16 -0500 > Message-ID: <3624C68F.48EE@dallas.net> > Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 09:43:18 -0600 > From: Tony Guerry > Organization: KT Publishing > X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Macintosh; I; PPC) > MIME-Version: 1.0 > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: [PDF] High Rez Photos in PDFs?? > References: <000101bdf772$001747a0$fc7175c1@win95> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ > Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html > Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com > Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com > __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 14-Oct-1998 16:11:33-GMT,2714;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA19131 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 10:11:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA06571; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 10:50:39 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 14 Oct 1998 10:47:05 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA03508; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 10:36:19 -0500 X-Sender: prodok@pop.eunet.ch Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <000101bdf772$001747a0$fc7175c1@win95> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 17:21:25 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Max Wyss Subject: RE: [PDF] Converting Reader v3.0 files for Reader v2.0 Cc: "Darryl Lucas (Solvera, Handforth, UK)" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Darryl, It is possible to redistill in any case, as you do have the sources, and you do have the Acrobat 3 level PDFs. You will use these PDFs and process them again (printing to PS file, distill with appropriate settings). Of course, you will lose all links, bookmarks etc. But as your originals most likely don't have any of these, you won't lose much. And the extra cost this Reader 2 compatibility requirement causes, may bring your client to reason . (maybe someone else would have to talk to them....) Take care. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering AG Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch WWW: http://www.prodok.ch/prodok Bridging the Knowledge Gap ______________________ >Max, > >I can't re-distil, the page source is TIFF. > >My customer needs Reader 2 compatibility until they manage to approve the >deployment of Reader 3 on their site. > >Does anyone else have any ideas? > >Darryl __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 14-Oct-1998 16:11:39-GMT,4839;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA19143 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 10:11:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA06443; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 10:50:03 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 14 Oct 1998 10:46:21 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA05733; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 10:46:18 -0500 Message-ID: <19981014154630.20077.rocketmail@send105.yahoomail.com> Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 08:46:30 -0700 (PDT) From: James Subject: [PDF] Delivering CMYK images To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Here's something I've searched and/or worked on for the last few months without complete success; perhaps you'll have an idea that hasn't occurred to me. I have a group of designers who need to deliver frequently changing CMYK images to people in diverse locations. Previously this was done by spending a day creating a Quark document, printing out copies, and FedEx-ing them around the world. However, I set up a procedure where similar pages are generated and displayable through our intranet. There are two problems with this: One, the images have to be converted from CMYK to RGB, which obviously causes color shifting; two, we're limited by the Netscape printing capabilities, mostly as it relates to color (i.e., there's even more color shifting). While this system is good for giving people a general idea about product colors, as time has gone on the color shifting has become less and less satisfactory. Therefore, I've been in need of a way to deliver these images in as close to their original state as possible. The best thing to do, obviously, would be to just put those images (compressed TIFFs) as links from their associated thumbnails (which don't have to be color correct). Unfortunately, there's a hitch to that. Significant amounts of information (regions, model names, color callouts, etc.) are stored in the file name, and this information needs to be parsed (it's in a coded, abbreviated form) and presented when the image is viewed or printed. Because these images change frequently (sometimes more than once a day, during the final decision period), it would be overly tedious to constantly be adding this information to the image via Photoshop or some other editing tool. (Unless, of course, there's some way to "script" that action.) My solution thus far has targeted PDF. PDF is capable of supporting a CMYK color space, has a file size similar to the original compressed TIFF, and can be easily delivered via an intranet site. To add the file name information, I've written a Perl program that takes the image stream from the image file (which has been saved from Photoshop as a CMYK PDF), combines it with the parsed file name information, and puts it into a new PDF file, which is either streamed or otherwise sent to the user's browser. On screen this all works perfectly; however, the created file cannot be sent to a Postscript printer. (There doesn't seem to be a problem with PCL printers though.) Since the printers people would be sending these files to are Postscript, this has become a stumbling block to my solution. As I said, I've been working on this -- off and on -- for a couple months, but now I'm out of options. My designers would like to see some solution soon, and I'd like to give them one. Everyone agrees that returning to the Quark method is the least desireable thing to do, because the web has provided greater turn around time and flexibility in presentation. Any thoughts you have, either on alternate solutions or on repairing my PDF solution, would be greatly appreciated. Please let me know if you need any additional information, and I will try to provide it (there's some confidentiality to the images involved though). Thanks, James _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 14-Oct-1998 16:51:29-GMT,2024;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA20216 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 10:51:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA11814; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 11:31:03 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 14 Oct 1998 11:26:38 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA11368; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 11:26:36 -0500 Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 12:30:16 -0400 From: Janet Loprano Subject: Re: [PDF] Delivering CMYK images To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-id: <8525669D.005AA9F1.00@ctc2.ap.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline X-Lotus-FromDomain: THEAP Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== James, AdSEND, a digital delivery system for the Associated Press, sends CMYK data daily to our member newspapers in PDF format. Our newspapers take advantage of the ExportPS functionality in Acrobat Exchange. If you select Export, then select PostScript or EPS. In the dialogue box, select Export EPS with Preview, you can then place the EPS into a page layout application and print separations. I hope this helps you. Janet Loprano Senior Applications Specialist The Associated Press / AdSEND __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 14-Oct-1998 17:10:03-GMT,2099;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA20944 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 11:10:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA14638; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 11:52:56 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 14 Oct 1998 11:49:11 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA14000; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 11:49:08 -0500 Message-ID: <3624E486.B02@dallas.net> Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 11:51:03 -0600 From: Tony Guerry Organization: KT Publishing X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] High Rez Photos in PDFs?? References: <3618FAF100003D3D@mailhost.jdpub.com> (added by mailhost.jdpub.com) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Jeff Rochon wrote: > > do you mean that they don't show up at all or show in low-res? > what format are the original hi-res images saved? They show up in low res. They are 5 file dcs images by the way! > i have found that 5-file eps [dcs] images will only image the low-res preview in a composite postscript file. you may have to save your hi-res images in a different format to get them to work. Anybody else have this problem also? Thanks Jeff, Tony __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 14-Oct-1998 17:13:36-GMT,2336;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA20996 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 11:12:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA15693; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 11:58:52 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 14 Oct 1998 11:55:17 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA15022; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 11:55:12 -0500 Message-ID: <3624E5F9.240E@dallas.net> Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 11:57:14 -0600 From: Tony Guerry Organization: KT Publishing X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] High Rez Photos in PDFs?? References: <000101bdf772$001747a0$fc7175c1@win95> <3624C68F.48EE@dallas.net> <36254F68.EED44C4@realworld.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Dean Laffan wrote: > > What do you mean *show up* ? > > They don't display ?, don't display at a quality you like ? What > settings have you played with ? What platform and what sort of hi res > images ? Yes, they don't display at the quality that I need. They just seem to be low-res images. Zooming in on the photos show a pixelated view, not a clear image like the 300 dpi original. I am on a Mac and the photos are 5 file DCS images. I have changed the Distiller settings of: Downsample to 72 dpi to 300 dpi and other higher settings. Turned off the compression checkmarks. Played with all of the compression settings variables. Any suggestions. Tony __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 14-Oct-1998 17:13:36-GMT,1847;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA21001 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 11:13:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA16047; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 12:00:42 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 14 Oct 1998 11:57:06 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA15313; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 11:57:01 -0500 Message-ID: <3624E666.6991@dallas.net> Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 11:59:03 -0600 From: Tony Guerry Organization: KT Publishing X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] High Rez Photos in PDFs?? References: <000101bdf772$001747a0$fc7175c1@win95> <3624C68F.48EE@dallas.net> <3624CC99.DFE@archangel.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Shane Steinman wrote: > Havbe you tried looking here...? > > http://www.adobe.com/supportservice/custsupport/SOLUTIONS/13136.htm thanks, I am printing it out now to read. Tony __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 14-Oct-1998 17:33:27-GMT,6549;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA21463 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 11:33:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA17685; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 12:09:51 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 14 Oct 1998 12:07:40 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA17280; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 12:07:38 -0500 Message-ID: <3624E8E9.47A0@archangel.net> Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 13:09:50 -0500 From: Shane Steinman Organization: ArchAngel Media Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Delivering CMYK images References: <19981014154630.20077.rocketmail@send105.yahoomail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== James wrote: > I have a group of designers who need to deliver frequently changing > CMYK images to people in diverse locations. Previously this was done > by spending a day creating a Quark document, printing out copies, and > FedEx-ing them around the world. However, I set up a procedure where > similar pages are generated and displayable through our intranet. > There are two problems with this: One, the images have to be > converted from CMYK to RGB, which obviously causes color shifting; Colour shifts can be made less obvious if you don't use Distiller's CMYK to RGB conversion tables. Also, in the case of pre-converting images to RGB, try not to use Photoshop 5 since its sRGB colour space causes clipping in some regions of the CMYK gamut. When pre-converting images, you might wish to use Photoshop 4 with its more traditional RGB space which almost entirely encompasses CMYK for most uses. Other than that, aside from using embedded ICC profiles in the images, you will have to find some easy-to-implement colour management scheme to support your efforts. > two, we're limited by the Netscape printing capabilities, mostly as it > relates to color (i.e., there's even more color shifting). While this > system is good for giving people a general idea about product colors, > as time has gone on the color shifting has become less and less > satisfactory. ...and we're not even getting into printer calibration issues! > Therefore, I've been in need of a way to deliver these images in as > close to their original state as possible. The best thing to do, > obviously, would be to just put those images (compressed TIFFs) as > links from their associated thumbnails (which don't have to be color > correct). Unfortunately, there's a hitch to that. Significant > amounts of information (regions, model names, color callouts, etc.) > are stored in the file name, and this information needs to be parsed > (it's in a coded, abbreviated form) and presented when the image is > viewed or printed. Because these images change frequently (sometimes > more than once a day, during the final decision period), it would be > overly tedious to constantly be adding this information to the image > via Photoshop or some other editing tool. (Unless, of course, there's > some way to "script" that action.) There are watermarking tools available for Photoshop that may be scriptable through AppleScript, Perl or VBScript, depending on your platform. > My solution thus far has targeted PDF. PDF is capable of supporting a > CMYK color space, has a file size similar to the original compressed > TIFF, and can be easily delivered via an intranet site. To add the > file name information, I've written a Perl program that takes the > image stream from the image file (which has been saved from Photoshop > as a CMYK PDF), combines it with the parsed file name information, and > puts it into a new PDF file, which is either streamed or otherwise > sent to the user's browser. On screen this all works perfectly; > however, the created file cannot be sent to a Postscript printer. > (There doesn't seem to be a problem with PCL printers though.) Since > the printers people would be sending these files to are Postscript, > this has become a stumbling block to my solution. Theoretically, this shouldn't be a problem, however, you should make sure that your incorporated filename data is ADSC (Adobe Document Structuring Convention) compliant. Is this a direct edit and re-save of the existing PDF file without distilling? > Any thoughts you have, either on alternate solutions or on repairing > my PDF solution, would be greatly appreciated. Please let me know if > you need any additional information, and I will try to provide it > (there's some confidentiality to the images involved though). If the hi-rez images are TIFF, I'd be tempted to try scripting Photshop's QuickEdit function to add in the required information to the hi-rez image file - not as an internal Photoshop action, but through a system-level events script that accesses this functionality within the program. In that way, you could draw from other sources for the naming convention that you are seeking to maintain. Otherwise, I would have a look at the watermarking option as a scriptable routine. Also, since this IS a PDF forum, I think you might get an answer from someone who has your plug-in ready and waiting for action. Good luck, Shane -- Shane Steinman Technical Director =================================================================== ArchAngel Media Inc. 555 Sheppard Ave. West, Suite 910 Toronto, Ontario, CANADA M3H 2R7 ================================= Tel. or Fax: (416) 410-6366 E-mail: shane@archangel.net Web: http://www.archangel.net __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 14-Oct-1998 17:33:32-GMT,3254;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA21467 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 11:33:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA17656; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 12:09:43 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 14 Oct 1998 12:07:26 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA17212; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 12:07:23 -0500 Message-ID: From: Steve Ostiguy To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] High Rez Photos in PDFs?? Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 13:09:06 -0400 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== You cannot have DCS 5 images when writing "composite" postscript! You must either convert them to a single file format, or write separated postscript (not recommended for PDF) Steve Ostiguy Imaging Supervisor- CtP Production St. Joseph Printing Ltd. mailto:sostiguy@stjoseph.com http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Flats/8416/ >---------- >From: Tony Guerry[SMTP:ktpub@dallas.net] >Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 1998 1:57 PM >To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com >Subject: Re: [PDF] High Rez Photos in PDFs?? > > >====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > >Dean Laffan wrote: >> >> What do you mean *show up* ? >> >> They don't display ?, don't display at a quality you like ? What >> settings have you played with ? What platform and what sort of hi res >> images ? > >Yes, they don't display at the quality that I need. They just seem to be >low-res images. Zooming in on the photos show a pixelated view, not a >clear image like the 300 dpi original. > >I am on a Mac and the photos are 5 file DCS images. > >I have changed the Distiller settings of: >Downsample to 72 dpi to 300 dpi and other higher settings. >Turned off the compression checkmarks. >Played with all of the compression settings variables. > >Any suggestions. > >Tony > >__________________________________________________________ > >-> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- >*** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** >+ For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + >__________________________________________________________ > > __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 14-Oct-1998 17:33:37-GMT,2606;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA21476 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 11:33:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA18318; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 12:13:29 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 14 Oct 1998 12:11:17 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA17915; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 12:11:12 -0500 X-Server-Uuid: fc96bae8-3f98-11d2-a40d-00805f199815 Message-ID: From: "Kinstle, Joel" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Converting Reader v3.0 files for Reader v2.0 Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 12:10:37 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) X-WSS-ID: 1A3A04852176050-01-01 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Chris Cooper replied to: ------------------------------------- > > My customer needs Reader 2 compatibility until they manage to approve > the > > deployment of Reader 3 on their site. > with the following statement: ------------------------------------- > Ain't bureaucracy wonderful, folks! But seriously, this does sound like a > major > waste of your time and resources. > > I'd like to add: ------------------------------------- That's not always the case. I thought the same thing and was elated when our company finally went to Acrobat 3 across our enterprise. Then all the LAN and print servers began having noteworthy difficulty as everyone tried to print to all their nonpostscripting HP laserjets. Now, many people actively despise the PDF format. Sometimes it's a good thing to be cautious...it would have saved me trouble if we had been more conservative and less trusting. Joel Kinstle __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 14-Oct-1998 17:43:47-GMT,4028;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA21779 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 11:43:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA20628; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 12:25:32 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 14 Oct 1998 12:23:14 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA20182; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 12:23:07 -0500 Message-ID: <3624EC87.5098@archangel.net> Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 13:25:16 -0500 From: Shane Steinman Organization: ArchAngel Media Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] High Rez Photos in PDFs?? References: <000101bdf772$001747a0$fc7175c1@win95> <3624C68F.48EE@dallas.net> <36254F68.EED44C4@realworld.com.au> <3624E5F9.240E@dallas.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Previous commentary: > > They don't display ?, don't display at a quality you like ? What > > settings have you played with ? What platform and what sort of hi res > > images ? > > Yes, they don't display at the quality that I need. They just seem to be > low-res images. Zooming in on the photos show a pixelated view, not a > clear image like the 300 dpi original. > > I am on a Mac and the photos are 5 file DCS images. > > I have changed the Distiller settings of: > Downsample to 72 dpi to 300 dpi and other higher settings. > Turned off the compression checkmarks. > Played with all of the compression settings variables. Hi Tony, Since the central placement file of the DCS structure is limited to 72 dpi anyway, unless you have a customized export filter for changing this value, you are stuck with a low-rez preview. However, you can greatly improve the look of this image by selecting JPEG as the preview format instead of 8-bit. This will not affect the image printability on Level 1 PostScript devices since this applies only to the preview information. Do NOT select JPEG as the ENCODING method unless you are in a strictly PS Level 2 environment. As for printing the hi-rez version of the file out to a proofing device, you might consider using DCS 2.0 format which can recombine the five files into a single file. This will give you fast screen previews, faster downloads than printing standard single-file eps images and the same option to use a JPEG Preview. I can't remember off the top of my head whether checking the Preserve OPI Comments will also respect the DCS file linking convention or if it only applies to standard OPI commentary. If it does support this, you would only need to use your current format (5 file DCS) and supply the four hi-rez plates to anyone who needs finer printing capability. Regards, Shane -- Shane Steinman Technical Director =================================================================== ArchAngel Media Inc. 555 Sheppard Ave. West, Suite 910 Toronto, Ontario, CANADA M3H 2R7 ================================= Tel. or Fax: (416) 410-6366 E-mail: shane@archangel.net Web: http://www.archangel.net __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 14-Oct-1998 17:44:31-GMT,2191;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA21800 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 11:44:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA21719; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 12:31:08 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 14 Oct 1998 12:28:26 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA21146; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 12:28:25 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19981014133809.0083fac0@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 13:38:09 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: RE: [PDF] Converting Reader v3.0 files for Reader v2.0 In-Reply-To: <000101bdf772$001747a0$fc7175c1@win95> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > >My customer needs Reader 2 compatibility until they manage to approve the >deployment of Reader 3 on their site. > Sometimes describing the added cost of maintaining forward and backward compatibility will speed up the approval process wonderfully. "Well, yes, I suppose we *could* contrive to back-convert all these files, but you understand, don't you, that it will cost in excess of $XX per file, whereas the new Reader costs nothing." Steve Rindsberg/Prez RDP http://www.rdpslides.com __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 14-Oct-1998 17:48:34-GMT,2430;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA21950 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 11:48:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA21803; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 12:31:40 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 14 Oct 1998 12:29:28 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA21357; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 12:29:25 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] High Rez Photos in PDFs?? Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 18:27:19 +0100 Message-ID: <000001bdf797$eac14920$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <3624C68F.48EE@dallas.net> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > I can't seem to get high resolution photos to show up in my PDF files. > I have played with the Distiller job options quite a bit. > It is certainly possible. Since it is possible, it would be a waste of time to try and guess what you are doing wrong, so why not repost with some details e.g. - what applications you are using to make the pages - what application you are using to make the photos - the file format and resolution of the photos (if EPS be specific about the flavour) - if using OPI, what product and how are you using it - what exactly you mean by "show up" - you mean they are blank now? - if it is a quality problem, how exactly you are viewing or measuring the quality. Aandi __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 14-Oct-1998 19:04:54-GMT,2363;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA23975 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 13:04:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA30713; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 13:44:52 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 14 Oct 1998 13:41:50 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA30112; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 13:41:44 -0500 Message-ID: <3624FEEF.3A1E@dallas.net> Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 13:44:00 -0600 From: Tony Guerry Organization: KT Publishing X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] High Rez Photos in PDFs?? References: <000001bdf797$eac14920$0101c6c0@gateway> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Aandi Inston wrote: > > - what applications you are using to make the pages Mac Quark 3.32; Mac Distiller 3.01 > - what application you are using to make the photos Mac Photoshop 5.0 > - the file format and resolution of the photos (if EPS be > specific about the flavour) DCS 5 EPS images > - if using OPI, what product and how are you using it None. > - what exactly you mean by "show up" - you mean they are blank > now? Sorry. I mean that they show up low-res in the PDF file. > - if it is a quality problem, how exactly you are viewing or > measuring the quality. Yes it is and I am using Exchange 3.01 and Reader 3.01 to look at the PDF files and zooming into the photo to see very pixelated views. Thanks for the responses. Tony __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 14-Oct-1998 20:11:23-GMT,2501;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA25830 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 14:11:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA04117; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 14:46:16 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 14 Oct 1998 14:44:32 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA03974; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 14:44:30 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] High Rez Photos in PDFs?? Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 20:42:25 +0100 Message-ID: <000301bdf7aa$c9cb8060$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <3624FEEF.3A1E@dallas.net> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > > > - the file format and resolution of the photos (if EPS be > > specific about the flavour) > > DCS 5 EPS images > > - what exactly you mean by "show up" - you mean they are blank > > now? > > Sorry. I mean that they show up low-res in the PDF file. Ok, here is your problem. I assume you are making a composite PDF (that is, a colour one, not separations). In that case, DCS is not suitable. You'd see the same effects with direct colour printing. The 5-file images contain 4 high res plates and a low res full colour image, intended only for rough proofing. DCS is just incompatible with composite workflows, unless you have an application which makes a high res full colour image - which Photoshop won't. So, nothing is wrong but your expectations! Aandi __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 14-Oct-1998 20:15:10-GMT,3009;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA25927 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 14:14:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA04116; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 14:46:14 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 14 Oct 1998 14:44:31 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA03953; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 14:44:28 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Delivering CMYK images Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 20:38:24 +0100 Message-ID: <000201bdf7aa$c8497440$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <19981014154630.20077.rocketmail@send105.yahoomail.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== ... > My solution thus far has targeted PDF. PDF is capable of supporting a > CMYK color space, has a file size similar to the original compressed > TIFF, and can be easily delivered via an intranet site. To add the > file name information, I've written a Perl program that takes the > image stream from the image file (which has been saved from Photoshop > as a CMYK PDF), combines it with the parsed file name information, and > puts it into a new PDF file, which is either streamed or otherwise > sent to the user's browser. On screen this all works perfectly; > however, the created file cannot be sent to a Postscript printer. > (There doesn't seem to be a problem with PCL printers though.) Since > the printers people would be sending these files to are Postscript, > this has become a stumbling block to my solution. Lots of detail here, but nothing where it counts - what exactly happens with a PostScript printer? If it's PostScript errors, or no symptoms (which may be the same thing) see http://www.quite.com/ps/errors.htm. It isn't clear to me if you are generating PDF at a low level. If you are, pay very close attention to the /ProcSet resources. This is often overlooked, and messes up PostScript printing good and proper. Aandi __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 14-Oct-1998 20:30:16-GMT,2110;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA26443 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 14:30:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA05833; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 15:07:50 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 14 Oct 1998 15:06:54 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA05748; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 15:06:53 -0500 Message-ID: <001a01bdf7ae$26e42ce0$09a6fed0@rmelanso.thecia.net> From: "Rick Melanson" To: Subject: [PDF] PDF Conversion Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 16:06:26 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Hello All, Just a quick question. My company has decided to convert ALL of the PDF files we have to HTML. Not that I agree, but I have to anyway. Did I see mentioned tools for converting PDF to HTML. Can anyone who is aware of a tool like this drop me a line and let me know where to get it. Sure will save me a BIG bunch of time. Thanks a million in advance for everyone's help. Rick Melanson Sr. Technical Writer Micrion Corp. rmelanso@micrion.com __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 14-Oct-1998 20:53:49-GMT,2075;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA27128 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 14:53:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA07803; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 15:34:03 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 14 Oct 1998 15:32:54 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA07680; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 15:32:51 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: KEYCORP From: "Karen L Mibus" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <8525669D.00702D2F.00@keybank.com> Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 16:29:44 -0400 Subject: [PDF] Setting Button Action to Go To Page Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== I'm just learning how to use JavaScript with the Acrobat Forms tool and I'm trying to set a button action to go to a specific page within the PDF file. Do the pages have names or can one reference them by number? If so, how? When using the link tool, one can select "Go to view", select the page to link to, and the action is set. However, when setting button actions with the form tool, the "Go to view" selection changes the zoom. So I'm confused as to how to link to another page with a button. Thanks in advance for any help anyone can offer. --Karen __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 15-Oct-1998 0:38:53-GMT,2139;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA02830 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 18:38:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA20773; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 19:12:35 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 14 Oct 1998 19:07:12 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA20465; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 19:07:08 -0500 Message-Id: <57CB6C24BCF4D111BF3D00805FBE4624635D82@D060887.sce.com> From: "Su, Francisco" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Weblink targeting another frame ? Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 17:05:55 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1461.28) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Hi, I just joined this list and I am not sure whether or not this has been asked before. I am trying to create a web page with 2 frames, one on the left and the other on the right. The left frame will contain a PDF file with weblinks, while the right frame will have HTML pages. My question is: would it be possible to make the weblinks in the left frame PDF file so that when clicked will target the right frame, similar as it can be done here ? Thank you for you help !! Frank Su Southern California Edison suf@sce.com __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 15-Oct-1998 4:36:50-GMT,2417;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA07663 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 22:36:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA00873; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 23:10:53 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 14 Oct 1998 23:03:33 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA00464; Wed, 14 Oct 1998 23:03:32 -0500 X-ROUTED: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 00:03:38 -0500 X-TCP-IDENTITY: Tonymck Message-ID: <01BDF7CF.3CB30CA0@s72.onix.com> From: Tony McKinley To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Draft: White Paper on PDF searching with MS Index Server using Adobe IFilter Plug-in Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 00:03:26 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id XAA00459 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Great Post! One minor point of correction, in terms of page-at-a-time access, Netscape browsers perform according to spec. They work fine. You can have individual links to specific pages within a long PDF document. That's not news. Getting it to work over the Web is the rub. MSIE seems to ignore byteserving, and any evidence to the contrary is eagerly sought. (anybody from Microsoft listening?) To be able to search remote PDF collections, there has to be a Search Engine on the remote server or thereabouts. That's the thing that translates HTML Search entries into Info Retrieval queries. Your local Acrobat Search only works on PDF on your computer. Great Post! __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 15-Oct-1998 8:38:26-GMT,2689;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA12463 for ; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 02:38:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA13183; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 03:15:15 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 15 Oct 1998 03:13:58 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA13023; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 03:13:56 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Draft: White Paper on PDF searching with MS Index Server using Adobe IFilter Plug-in Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 06:10:25 +0100 Message-ID: <000901bdf813$7b0a94c0$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <01BDF7CF.3CB30CA0@s72.onix.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > One minor point of correction, in terms of page-at-a-time > access, Netscape browsers perform according to spec. They work fine. I didn't notice any statement saying page-at-a-time access (byteserving) didn't work with Netscape. There was a statement "Somewhere I have read that the Microsoft IE browser supports a single page found by a search engine where the Netscape browser does not," which I didn't understand, so that might be it... > > You can have individual links to specific pages within a long > PDF document. That's not news. Getting it to work over the > Web is the rub. MSIE seems to ignore byteserving, and any > evidence to the contrary is eagerly sought. (anybody from > Microsoft listening?) IE3 and IE4 both work with byteserving. Be sure you aren't using "byteserving" to mean "links to named destinations through HTML". That isn't what it means at all. Aandi __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 15-Oct-1998 12:45:50-GMT,3240;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA16541 for ; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 06:45:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA25191; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 07:14:16 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 15 Oct 1998 07:10:44 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA24970; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 07:10:42 -0500 Message-ID: <00EF773582D6D111939D00A0C9A92F6401FC03B9@il0015exch003u.ih.lucent.com> From: "Farrell, Kevin (Kevin)" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] PDF Conversion Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 07:10:31 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Iceni Technology has a plug-in called Gemini that will take text and images and create INDIVIDUAL HTML pages from each page of the document and will create placeholder tags for the graphics as well. To me, having a million individual documents is a major pain, but it gets the content to HTML anyways. Hope that helps. _____________________________________ Kevin Farrell Lucent Technologies Electronic Media Networked Services (EMNS) voice: 630.224.6890 email: mailto:kfarrell@lucent.com text page: http://paging.acswireless.com/send.html (use pager number 630.680.6367) _____________________________________ -----Original Message----- From: Rick Melanson [mailto:rmelanso@MICRION.COM] Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 1998 3:06 PM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] PDF Conversion Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Hello All, Just a quick question. My company has decided to convert ALL of the PDF files we have to HTML. Not that I agree, but I have to anyway. Did I see mentioned tools for converting PDF to HTML. Can anyone who is aware of a tool like this drop me a line and let me know where to get it. Sure will save me a BIG bunch of time. Thanks a million in advance for everyone's help. Rick Melanson Sr. Technical Writer Micrion Corp. rmelanso@micrion.com __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 15-Oct-1998 13:02:19-GMT,2228;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA16869 for ; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 07:02:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA27174; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 07:40:52 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 15 Oct 1998 07:39:48 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA27091; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 07:39:46 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: KEYCORP From: "Karen L Mibus" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <8525669E.0044C780.00@keybank.com> Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 08:36:36 -0400 Subject: Re: [PDF] Draft: White Paper on PDF searching with MS Index Server using Adobe IFilter Plug-in Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== You wrote: MSIE seems to ignore byteserving, and any evidence to the contrary is eagerly sought. (anybody from Microsoft listening?) We are dealing with the problem of byteserving on our Intranet server. First, Adobe provides an Active X fix for IE 4+ to solve the byteserving problem within MSIE. Second, depending on the server (and operating system?), byteserving may or may not be supported. Adobe has a page that lists the different servers, whether they have the byteserving plug-in preinstalled, and Adobe provides server byteserving plugins on this page: http://www.adobe.com/prodindex/acrobat/byteserve.html#webserve Hope this helps you! --Karen __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 15-Oct-1998 13:15:59-GMT,4144;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA17128 for ; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 07:15:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA28273; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 07:57:41 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 15 Oct 1998 07:56:45 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA28149; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 07:56:41 -0500 Message-ID: <001901bdf83c$1b3dc0c0$3f5247ce@newmicronpc> From: "Neal Anderson" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] Draft: White Paper on PDF searching with MS Index Server using Adobe IFilter Plug-in Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 07:02:38 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Tony, Thanks for the message. I had a different experience with BYTESERVING. The Netscape 4.0 worked AOK with my tests. The MSIE required some tweaking. First, I had to uninstall the Acrobat 3.0, then reload the latest Acrobat 3.01 (I believe). Then I had to install an oex deal. Here is what I received from Yannick in Switzerland back at the end of August...there is a link for the ocx deal too... === Hi Neal, No! The Acrobat 3.01 setup and the ActiveX update setup are two different setups! 1- Install first the Acrobat 3.01 setup, 2- then install the ActiveX Update ( only for IE 4.0!). You will find it under http://www.adobe.com/prodindex/acrobat/ocxreader.html ==== Good luck! __________________________________________________________________ Neal Anderson http://www.vii.com/~neal (an hour a day, keeps the bill collector away) http://www.aros.net/~habitat (building homes for the working poor, a hand UP not a hand OUT) Act as if what you do makes a difference. It does. - William James __________________________________________________________________ -----Original Message----- From: Tony McKinley To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' Date: Wednesday, October 14, 1998 10:19 PM Subject: [PDF] Draft: White Paper on PDF searching with MS Index Server using Adobe IFilter Plug-in > >====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > >Great Post! > >One minor point of correction, in terms of page-at-a-time access, Netscape browsers perform according to spec. They work fine. > >You can have individual links to specific pages within a long PDF document. That's not news. Getting it to work over the Web is the rub. MSIE seems to ignore byteserving, and any evidence to the contrary is eagerly sought. (anybody from Microsoft listening?) > >To be able to search remote PDF collections, there has to be a Search Engine on the remote server or thereabouts. That's the thing that translates HTML Search entries into Info Retrieval queries. Your local Acrobat Search only works on PDF on your computer. > >Great Post! > > > > > > > > >__________________________________________________________ > >-> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- >*** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** >+ For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + >__________________________________________________________ > __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 15-Oct-1998 13:32:21-GMT,4595;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA17434 for ; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 07:32:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA29960; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 08:15:57 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 15 Oct 1998 08:12:56 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA29557; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 08:12:54 -0500 Message-ID: <002a01bdf83e$5f7e1080$3f5247ce@newmicronpc> From: "Neal Anderson" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] Draft: White Paper on PDF searching with MS Index Server using Adobe IFilter Plug-in Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 07:15:46 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Karen, Yes, I goofed in my draft. I will have to clear that up. MS does support byteserving, and you are quite right about the server. I found to byteserve, three things had to be switched correctly: 1 - the file itself must be byteservable (it has to be distilled and "saved as" and the distill option clicked). I created the PDF from an Adobe Postscript file, then enhanced (distilled) it in Adobe Exchange. 2 - the server has to support byteserving (My customer's server is using MS so this was ok by default) The www.adobe.com web site has a white paper that tells which servers support byteserving 3 - the browser has to be set for byteserving. Netscape 4.0 is OK by default. MSIE needs Acrobat 3.01 plus a bug fix: (I would suggest uninstalling Acrobat 3.0 first as well) Here is what Yannick sent me... Hi Neal, No! The Acrobat 3.01 setup and the ActiveX update setup are two different setups! 1- Install first the Acrobat 3.01 setup, 2- then install the ActiveX Update ( only for IE 4.0!). You will find it under http://www.adobe.com/prodindex/acrobat/ocxreader.html Hope this helps, sorry for the confusion in my draft. I will fix that. __________________________________________________________________ Neal Anderson http://www.vii.com/~neal (an hour a day, keeps the bill collector away) http://www.aros.net/~habitat (building homes for the working poor, a hand UP not a hand OUT) Act as if what you do makes a difference. It does. - William James __________________________________________________________________ -----Original Message----- From: Karen L Mibus To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: Thursday, October 15, 1998 6:49 AM Subject: Re: [PDF] Draft: White Paper on PDF searching with MS Index Server using Adobe IFilter Plug-in > >====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > > >You wrote: >MSIE seems to ignore byteserving, and any evidence to the contrary is >eagerly sought. (anybody from Microsoft listening?) > >We are dealing with the problem of byteserving on our Intranet server. >First, Adobe provides an Active X fix for IE 4+ to solve the byteserving >problem within MSIE. Second, depending on the server (and operating >system?), byteserving may or may not be supported. Adobe has a page that >lists the different servers, whether they have the byteserving plug-in >preinstalled, and Adobe provides server byteserving plugins on this page: > >http://www.adobe.com/prodindex/acrobat/byteserve.html#webserve > >Hope this helps you! >--Karen > > > >__________________________________________________________ > >-> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- >*** Sponsorship & Advt. 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Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 15-Oct-1998 15:00:31-GMT,1721;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA19421 for ; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 09:00:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA04918; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 09:38:48 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 15 Oct 1998 09:38:00 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA04838; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 09:37:59 -0500 Message-ID: <36260A81.6746C45B@natureny.com> Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 10:45:21 -0400 From: Kelly Modzelewski X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] printing out cropped pdfs as portrait X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Whenever we crop our PDFs, the cropped page prints out landscape. Is there anyway to print them out portrait? Thanks! - Kelly Modzelewski __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 15-Oct-1998 15:00:33-GMT,2668;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA19422 for ; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 09:00:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA04138; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 09:31:35 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 15 Oct 1998 09:30:30 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA04084; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 09:30:28 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 10:25:36 -0400 From: Robert Jones To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Envoy -> PDF Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Greetings. I have recently "adopted" a large batch of documents in Envoy 7 format, and I wish to convert them to PDF for greated portability. I have looked, but so far have been unable to find any tools which will (directly or indirectly) do such a conversion. Does anyone know of such a thing? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Robert Jones SC Dept of Health and Human Services __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 15-Oct-1998 15:01:45-GMT,2124;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA19446 for ; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 09:01:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA04826; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 09:37:44 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 15 Oct 1998 09:36:52 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA04703; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 09:36:51 -0500 Message-ID: <36260A3D.EB961BA@natureny.com> Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 10:44:13 -0400 From: Kelly Modzelewski X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] problems with hidden text in graphics printing in PDFs X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== I work for a scientific publishing company that puts journals online. Part of the process is creating PDFs from Quark 4.0 files using Distiller on a Mac. I am encoutnering the following problem: When the Quark files have multi-labeled graphics, the resulting PDF files print out from a PC with the hidden text in the graphics reappearing. This makes the graphics illegible. I use a PowerMacintosh 8500/180, system software 7.6.1. I print to a postscipt printer. Any suggestions would be helpful. Thanks! - Kelly Modzelewki __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 15-Oct-1998 15:22:58-GMT,2576;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA20072 for ; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 09:22:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA08143; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 10:06:08 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 15 Oct 1998 10:05:00 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA08021; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 10:04:57 -0500 Message-Id: <199810151504.IAA06389@mail-303.corp.Adobe.COM> X-Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated X-Division: Core Technology X-Department: Product Interoperability Analysis X-URL: X-Location: Remote (ISAACS_REMOTE) X-Sender: isaacs@mail-303 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.2 Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 08:04:16 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Dov Isaacs Subject: Re: [PDF] Envoy -> PDF Cc: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== At 10/15/98 07:25 AM , Robert Jones wrote: > >====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > >Greetings. > >I have recently "adopted" a large batch of documents in Envoy 7 format, and I wish to convert them to PDF for greated portability. I have looked, but so far have been unable to find any tools which will (directly or indirectly) do such a conversion. Does anyone know of such a thing? > >Any help would be greatly appreciated. > >Robert Jones >SC Dept of Health and Human Services As long as you can "print" the Envoy documents, you can create PDF. Print to PostScript and then use the Distiller on the PostScript (use the Distiller Assistant as a shortcut for this). This may be brute force, but it should work. - Dov __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 15-Oct-1998 15:31:54-GMT,3252;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA20309 for ; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 09:31:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA08824; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 10:13:14 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 15 Oct 1998 10:12:23 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA08731; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 10:12:20 -0500 Message-Id: <199810151504.IAA06389@mail-303.corp.Adobe.COM> X-Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated X-Division: Core Technology X-Department: Product Interoperability Analysis X-URL: X-Location: Remote (ISAACS_REMOTE) X-Sender: isaacs@mail-303 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.2 Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 08:04:16 -0700 Old-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Dov Isaacs Subject: Re: [PDF] Envoy -> PDF Cc: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com X-Loop: forwarded by miller@performancegraphics.com To: millercs@earthlink.net Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== At 10/15/98 07:25 AM , Robert Jones wrote: > >====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > >Greetings. > >I have recently "adopted" a large batch of documents in Envoy 7 format, and I wish to convert them to PDF for greated portability. I have looked, but so far have been unable to find any tools which will (directly or indirectly) do such a conversion. Does anyone know of such a thing? > >Any help would be greatly appreciated. > >Robert Jones >SC Dept of Health and Human Services As long as you can "print" the Envoy documents, you can create PDF. Print to PostScript and then use the Distiller on the PostScript (use the Distiller Assistant as a shortcut for this). This may be brute force, but it should work. - Dov __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 15-Oct-1998 16:18:55-GMT,2938;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA21572 for ; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 10:18:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA12385; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 10:53:33 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 15 Oct 1998 10:52:15 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA12275; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 10:52:14 -0500 From: Petr.Fexa@WIEN.Materna.DE Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 17:51:13 +0200 Alternate-Recipient: Allowed Message-ID: To: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com, pdf@lists.pdfzone.com In-Reply-To: <3624E666.6991@dallas.net> Subject: [PDF] PDF Writer vs. winword6/97 Importance: Low X-Mailer: DX-MAIL V2.21 (DX-MAIL X.400/MIME-Switch V2.02) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="QicnI83MiGejlS4iHVmFWNrfIF6SJXbC" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== --QicnI83MiGejlS4iHVmFWNrfIF6SJXbC Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable I experienced the following problem (which does not happen always but quite often): Formerly we wrote our (software) documentation with Winword 6, and, we converted the released versions with the PDF writer to PDF and distributed it to the customers. It worked fine. Then we upgraded to Winword97 and converted the documentation to this format (always when we changed some document, we simply saved it in the new Winword format). All the time, we are using the same PDF writer (3.0x). And from that point on, we have troubles with the converted PDF documents. The PDF writer does not indicate any error but the PDF files are often "corrupt". The contents disappears when viewing (some pages are simply blank), sometimes the Acrobat Viewer even brings up an error when opening the PDF file. Has somebody experienced similar problems? Thanks for any hints. petr.fexa@materna.de --QicnI83MiGejlS4iHVmFWNrfIF6SJXbC Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable IDENTIFIKATIONSANGABEN: a23214a.txt IA5 DX-MAIL X.400 User Agent= --QicnI83MiGejlS4iHVmFWNrfIF6SJXbC-- __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 15-Oct-1998 16:33:26-GMT,1998;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA23308 for ; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 10:33:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA14056; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 11:14:44 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 15 Oct 1998 11:13:47 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA13915; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 11:13:45 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: KEYCORP From: "Karen L Mibus" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <8525669E.004F4288.00@keybank.com> Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 10:27:48 -0400 Subject: Re: [PDF] Draft: White Paper on PDF searching with MS Index Server using Adobe IFilter Plug-in Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== >Hi Neal, >No! The Acrobat 3.01 setup and the ActiveX update setup are two different >setups! >1- Install first the Acrobat 3.01 setup, >2- then install the ActiveX Update ( only for IE 4.0!). You will find it >under http://www.adobe.com/prodindex/acrobat/ocxreader.html Just as a reminder, Acrobat Reader 3.02 is now available. This version includes the OCX fix. ftp://ftp.adobe.com/pub/adobe/acrobatreader/win/3.x/ --Karen __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 15-Oct-1998 16:50:47-GMT,1917;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA25439 for ; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 10:50:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA14936; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 11:26:09 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 15 Oct 1998 11:25:08 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA14848; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 11:25:04 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: kfoss@mailbag.com Message-Id: Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 11:23:29 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Kelly Modzelewski Subject: [PDF] problem with multi-labeled graphics printing hidden text in PDFs Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== I work for a scientific publishing company that puts journals online. We are encoutnering the following problem: When we distill Quark files with multi-labeled graphics on a Mac, the resulting PDF files print the hidden text in the graphics when sent from a PC. We use PowerMacIntosh 8500/180, system software 7.6.1. The printers used are postscript printers. - Kelly __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 15-Oct-1998 18:11:52-GMT,2109;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA28154 for ; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 12:11:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA22154; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 12:46:30 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 15 Oct 1998 12:45:23 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA22076; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 12:45:21 -0500 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19981015174427.00d92288@env-sol.com> X-Sender: thiersch@env-sol.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 10:44:27 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Tom Thiersch Subject: Re: [PDF] Draft: White Paper on PDF searching with MS Index Server using Adobe IFilter Plug-in Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== There aren't any 3.02 readers at that ftp: URL any more (at least not as of 2 minutes ago). Also, the only 3.02 versions around (such as the ones you can download from PDFZONE) DON'T include search. Tom Thiersch At 10:27 AM 10/15/98 -0400, you wrote: > >>under http://www.adobe.com/prodindex/acrobat/ocxreader.html > >Just as a reminder, Acrobat Reader 3.02 is now available. This version >includes the OCX fix. > > ftp://ftp.adobe.com/pub/adobe/acrobatreader/win/3.x/ > >--Karen > __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 15-Oct-1998 18:12:42-GMT,2050;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA28161 for ; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 12:12:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA22652; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 12:53:29 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 15 Oct 1998 12:52:38 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA22583; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 12:52:37 -0500 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19981015175138.00d973d0@env-sol.com> X-Sender: thiersch@env-sol.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 10:51:38 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Tom Thiersch Subject: Re: [PDF] printing out cropped pdfs as portrait Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Kelly, If you are printing to a Distiller watched folder, you should be able to control the orientation of pages using a prologue.ps file. Use 'setdistillerparms' with the 'AutoRotatePages' parameter. Tom Thiersch At 10:45 AM 10/15/98 -0400, you wrote: > >====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > >Whenever we crop our PDFs, the cropped page prints out landscape. Is >there anyway to print them out portrait? > >Thanks! > >- Kelly Modzelewski > __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 15-Oct-1998 18:23:47-GMT,2079;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA28454 for ; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 12:23:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA23839; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 13:04:46 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 15 Oct 1998 13:03:31 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA23597; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 13:03:30 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: KEYCORP From: "Karen L Mibus" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <8525669E.00627A02.00@keybank.com> Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 13:57:24 -0400 Subject: Re: [PDF] Draft: White Paper on PDF searching with MS Index Server using Adobe IFilter Plug-in Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Here is the initial announcement posted on the PDF@lists on 10/7/98: Yes, the v.3.02 Readers apparently *are* available, but so far only *without* Search, it seems. Find them at: ftp://ftp.adobe.com/pub/adobe/acrobatreader/mac/3.x/ ftp://ftp.adobe.com/pub/adobe/acrobatreader/win/3.x/ ftp://ftp.adobe.com/pub/adobe/acrobatreader/unix/3.x/ ftp://ftp.adobe.com/pub/adobe/acrobatreader/os2/3.x/ rgds ~ Kurt Please be aware that one has to search carefully on the lists for ar302.exe. It's "buried." __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 15-Oct-1998 19:39:55-GMT,2500;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA00595 for ; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 13:39:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA29382; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 14:22:26 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 15 Oct 1998 14:21:04 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA29268; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 14:21:02 -0500 Message-ID: <001f01bdf871$ced684c0$2a5247ce@newmicronpc> From: "Neal Anderson" To: Subject: [PDF] Formatting to get to a page in a PDF document Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 13:27:06 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== I am at the point where I need to know how to create a link to point to a PDF file and a particular page within that file. Here is an example of what works for me at the present (this is not an operational link, so don't click on it) click here to read catalog I need to learn what to add to the anchor tag (and where) to specify a certain page within the PDF file. The page number gets returned during the search response in a system variable. I will use this variables to stick it in the right place of this line of code. I have looked and looked and cannot find any manuals that specifies this. So, if you know the answer, please explain it as well as a reference to a manual that explains it. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Neal __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 15-Oct-1998 20:58:19-GMT,2717;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA02452 for ; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 14:58:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA01523; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 15:35:09 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 15 Oct 1998 15:33:10 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA01345; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 15:33:06 -0500 Message-ID: <36265C08.F6FD2074@nike.com> Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 13:33:12 -0700 From: James Lloyd X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [Fwd: [PDF] Delivering CMYK images] Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------FB1222E0CCF241ABB1AC30E3" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------FB1222E0CCF241ABB1AC30E3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --------------FB1222E0CCF241ABB1AC30E3 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-ID: <36264188.29892973@yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 11:40:09 -0700 From: James Lloyd X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] Delivering CMYK images Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks for all suggestions yesterday; my CMYK PDF problem appears to have been straightened out. Aandi's and Shane's comments relating to the ProcSet were right on the money. Apparently, in one of the many iterations of my program (probably when I was working out something with the image data stream), the /Text resource disappeared. Once that was back in, everything was working fine and tests from the users look good. Thanks again for the help. Sometimes staring at the same code really does cause blindness. James --------------FB1222E0CCF241ABB1AC30E3-- __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 15-Oct-1998 21:05:58-GMT,2557;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA02656 for ; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 15:05:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA02574; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 15:50:37 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 15 Oct 1998 15:49:26 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA02463; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 15:49:24 -0500 Message-ID: <006301bdf87d$af0c20d0$6f140645@alindsay.EPNET.COM> From: alindsay@mailman.epnet.com (Andrew Lindsay) To: Subject: Re: [PDF] Formatting to get to a page in a PDF document Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 16:52:10 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== What you need to do is create a "Named Destination" in the PDF itself, which will then allow you to create an HREF tag that points to it -- a plain PDF file doesn't have these internal "Named Destination" pointers. You add them by distilling or redistilling with a named destination PDFmark file in the Ditiller directory. You can find info on this at the PDF hypermail archives at: http://netc.wustl.edu/~pdfl/1996.Oct.96.Jan.97/0142.html At the Adobe CustomerFirst Support database at: http://www.adobe.com/supportservice/custsupport/SOLUTIONS/a17e.htm Or a complete explaination in Thomas Merz's excellent book Web Publishing with Acrobat/PDF (Sping 98 Springer/Verlag $44.95) Good luck, Andrew Lindsay > >I am at the point where I need to know how to create a link to point to a >PDF file and a particular page within that file. __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 16-Oct-1998 0:35:58-GMT,3306;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA07482 for ; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 18:35:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA14588; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 19:10:19 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 15 Oct 1998 19:08:56 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA14437; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 19:08:54 -0500 Message-ID: <001801bdf89a$00c367a0$345247ce@newmicronpc> From: "Neal Anderson" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] Formatting to get to a page in a PDF document Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 18:08:39 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Andrew, Thanks very much. This is exactly what I needed. It even volunteered the proper HTML code. Neal. -----Original Message----- From: Andrew Lindsay To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: Thursday, October 15, 1998 2:57 PM Subject: Re: [PDF] Formatting to get to a page in a PDF document > >====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > >What you need to do is create a "Named Destination" in the PDF itself, which >will then allow you to create an HREF tag that points to it -- a plain PDF >file doesn't have these internal "Named Destination" pointers. > >You add them by distilling or redistilling with a named destination PDFmark >file in the Ditiller directory. > >You can find info on this at the PDF hypermail archives at: > >http://netc.wustl.edu/~pdfl/1996.Oct.96.Jan.97/0142.html > >At the Adobe CustomerFirst Support database at: > >http://www.adobe.com/supportservice/custsupport/SOLUTIONS/a17e.htm > >Or a complete explaination in Thomas Merz's excellent book > >Web Publishing with Acrobat/PDF >(Sping 98 Springer/Verlag $44.95) > >Good luck, > >Andrew Lindsay > > >> >>I am at the point where I need to know how to create a link to point to a >>PDF file and a particular page within that file. > > > >__________________________________________________________ > >-> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- >*** Sponsorship & Advt. 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Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 16-Oct-1998 5:14:06-GMT,3342;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA12772 for ; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 23:14:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA31495; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 23:51:43 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 15 Oct 1998 23:49:40 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA31382; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 23:49:38 -0500 Message-ID: <3626DEF4.7B05@archangel.net> Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 00:51:51 -0500 From: Shane Steinman Organization: ArchAngel Media Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] problem with multi-labeled graphics printing hidden text in PDFs References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Hi Kelly, This has a familiar ring to it... > When we distill Quark files with multi-labeled graphics on a Mac, the > resulting PDF files print the hidden text in the graphics when sent from > a PC. > > We use PowerMacIntosh 8500/180, system software 7.6.1. The printers used > are postscript printers. These PostScript printers, are they PS-only? Or, do they support other printer languages, like HPGL or PCL? It is possible, if this is the case, that the Printer Drivers are interpreting the hidden text as raw ASCII in need of conversion. All of the above being true, have you tried using a PostScript-only printer driver that won't allow for the alternate language options to kick in? Many (maybe all) recent HP LaserJet models will permit multiple languages to be operational at the same time. You can try turning off these additional languages at the printer setup menu (on top of the laser) but this won't avoid the problem that other similar users will experience if these files are distributed. The ideal solution would be to use the cleanest Chooser-level device when making your original PDF files. I have never had this type of problem when using PSPrinter 8.3.1 - try that on for size. Regards, Shane -- Shane Steinman Technical Director =================================================================== ArchAngel Media Inc. 555 Sheppard Ave. West, Suite 910 Toronto, Ontario, CANADA M3H 2R7 ================================= Tel. or Fax: (416) 410-6366 E-mail: shane@archangel.net Web: http://www.archangel.net __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 16-Oct-1998 11:52:06-GMT,2543;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA20410 for ; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 05:52:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA19454; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 06:24:02 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 16 Oct 1998 06:20:51 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA19314; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 06:20:49 -0500 Message-ID: <36272BE8.36504065@emtex.com> Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 12:20:09 +0100 From: Chris Cooper Organization: Emtex Ltd. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.07 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] New OS/2 Reader? References: <8525669E.00627A02.00@keybank.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Karen L Mibus wrote: > Yes, the v.3.02 Readers apparently *are* available, but so far only > *without* Search, it seems. > Find them at: > ftp://ftp.adobe.com/pub/adobe/acrobatreader/mac/3.x/ > ftp://ftp.adobe.com/pub/adobe/acrobatreader/win/3.x/ > ftp://ftp.adobe.com/pub/adobe/acrobatreader/unix/3.x/ > ftp://ftp.adobe.com/pub/adobe/acrobatreader/os2/3.x/ > rgds ~ Kurt > > Please be aware that one has to search carefully on the lists for > ar302.exe. It's "buried." Thanks. I missed them first time round. I note however, that there isn't actually a new OS/2 version - it is still the v 3.00 from Jul 97 - which is much slower even than v 3.00 for Win and has rather more *features* (read bugs and strange behaviour). (I run both platforms.) Would anyone from Adobe care to comment on when (if?) there will be a new OS/2 version. Cheers, Chris Cooper Emtex Ltd Watford UK "Tall, dark and gruesome - and then I grew some more!" __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 16-Oct-1998 15:20:00-GMT,3060;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA25014 for ; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 09:19:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA32120; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 09:53:09 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 16 Oct 1998 09:51:00 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA31944; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 09:50:59 -0500 Message-ID: <3627682B.A23@infopoint.it> Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 16:37:15 +0100 From: Luca Manzato Organization: La Tipografica Varese spa X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 Old-To: acrobat@blueworld.com CC: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Opening pdf at a specific page # Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com X-Loop: forwarded by miller@performancegraphics.com To: millercs@earthlink.net Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Hi all. I'd appreciate your help to solve this (BIG!?) problem: I need to open a pdf directly from my application (Delphi or Visual C++) to a specific page number. The pdfs are generated directly from Capture so that I cannot distill them using the Named Destination script. I need to reproduce the open file action, like from a bookmark or from a link. Is it possible? Using SDK is it possible to build such a function? I may also think to have a "3rd party" DLL (or something like it) that opens the pdf that I want at the wished page number. Does anybody can help me? Thanks in advance -- Luca Manzato La Tipografica Varese Spa Via Cherso, 2 21100 VARESE ** ITALY ** Tel: +39 332 330444 Fax: +39 332 331737 http://www.infopoint.it email: luca.manzato@infopoint.it __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. 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Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 16-Oct-1998 15:20:04-GMT,2978;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA25022 for ; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 09:20:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA31987; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 09:51:18 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 16 Oct 1998 09:49:07 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA31787; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 09:49:06 -0500 Subject: Re: [PDF] problem with multi-labeled graphics printing hidden text in PDFs Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 08:50:03 -0700 x-sender: dennisw@mail.inpractice.net x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: Dennis Walker To: "PDF Mail List" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-ID: <1303594690-92062987@mail.inpractice.net> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Kelly Modzelewski (k.modzelewski@natureny.com) wrote on 10/15/98 9:23 AM: >I work for a scientific publishing company that puts journals online. We >are encoutnering the following problem: > >When we distill Quark files with multi-labeled graphics on a Mac, the >resulting PDF files print the hidden text in the graphics when sent from >a PC. > >We use PowerMacIntosh 8500/180, system software 7.6.1. The printers used >are postscript printers. It's not clear by your description just what the situation is, but... If the hidden text you're talking about is contained in multiple Quark text boxes, are the "hidden" ones in question simply covered up by the top-most text box or another Quark object? Or have you defined the "hidden" text as non-printing by checking "Suppress Printout" in the Modify dialog? If you're just covering up text boxes (without suppressing printout), then yes all the text will make it into the PDF, and who knows how that will be treated by the different recipes of OSs, print drivers and printer languages. If this is situation, I would use "Suppress Printout" to turn off/turn on the unwanted text and recreate the PDF files with only the needed information. Dennis Walker dennisw@inpractice.net EVP/Production Mgr. 435-647-9910 InPractice Publications, Inc. 435-647-5927 fax __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 16-Oct-1998 15:20:11-GMT,2460;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA25027 for ; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 09:20:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA31183; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 09:42:14 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 16 Oct 1998 09:36:46 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA30702; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 09:36:44 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: KEYCORP From: "Karen L Mibus" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <8525669F.004F4A56.00@keybank.com> Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 10:33:19 -0400 Subject: [PDF] Button Link to Another Page In PDF Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Dr. Story wrote: This is a problem that has been discussed before. There is a way of getting around this limitation. 1) go to the destination page an create the button. Set it as Go to View and inherit zoom. 2) Next highlight the button (the form button on toolbar bar is still pressed). Then click on the menu item Edit > Fields > Duplicate. 3) Duplicate the button to the page you want it on. 4) Now go back to the first button on the the destination page and delete it, being sure not to delete the duplicate button. 5) Go to your duplicate button, and move it around to the position you want. Unclick the Forms Button on the toolbar. 6) Now test your button. IT Works! Thank you for the workaround, but I need to add an action to a button that links to another page in the PDF file. Is there a JavaScript for such an action? I searched the Acrobat Support database without success. --Karen __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 16-Oct-1998 15:20:13-GMT,2384;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA25034 for ; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 09:20:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA31184; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 09:42:14 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 16 Oct 1998 09:39:25 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA30919; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 09:39:24 -0500 Message-ID: <3627682B.A23@infopoint.it> Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 16:37:15 +0100 From: Luca Manzato Organization: La Tipografica Varese spa X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: acrobat@blueworld.com CC: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Opening pdf at a specific page # Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Hi all. I'd appreciate your help to solve this (BIG!?) problem: I need to open a pdf directly from my application (Delphi or Visual C++) to a specific page number. The pdfs are generated directly from Capture so that I cannot distill them using the Named Destination script. I need to reproduce the open file action, like from a bookmark or from a link. Is it possible? Using SDK is it possible to build such a function? I may also think to have a "3rd party" DLL (or something like it) that opens the pdf that I want at the wished page number. Does anybody can help me? Thanks in advance -- Luca Manzato La Tipografica Varese Spa Via Cherso, 2 21100 VARESE ** ITALY ** Tel: +39 332 330444 Fax: +39 332 331737 http://www.infopoint.it email: luca.manzato@infopoint.it __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 16-Oct-1998 15:37:29-GMT,3045;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA25565 for ; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 09:37:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA00746; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 10:12:07 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 16 Oct 1998 10:09:54 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA00529; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 10:09:52 -0500 Message-ID: <3627682B.A23@infopoint.it> Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 16:37:15 +0100 From: Luca Manzato Organization: La Tipografica Varese spa X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 Old-To: acrobat@blueworld.com CC: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Opening pdf at a specific page # Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Software: LetterRip Pro 3.0.2 by Fog City Software, Inc. List-Subscribe: List-Digest: List-Unsubscribe: X-List-Administrator: X-List-Archives: X-List-Guidelines: X-Loop: karlin@rsch.com To: nkarlin@panix.com Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Hi all. I'd appreciate your help to solve this (BIG!?) problem: I need to open a pdf directly from my application (Delphi or Visual C++) to a specific page number. The pdfs are generated directly from Capture so that I cannot distill them using the Named Destination script. I need to reproduce the open file action, like from a bookmark or from a link. Is it possible? Using SDK is it possible to build such a function? I may also think to have a "3rd party" DLL (or something like it) that opens the pdf that I want at the wished page number. Does anybody can help me? Thanks in advance -- Luca Manzato La Tipografica Varese Spa Via Cherso, 2 21100 VARESE ** ITALY ** Tel: +39 332 330444 Fax: +39 332 331737 http://www.infopoint.it email: luca.manzato@infopoint.it --------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: List Archives : __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 16-Oct-1998 15:37:35-GMT,3721;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA25573 for ; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 09:37:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA01252; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 10:19:29 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 16 Oct 1998 10:17:12 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA01086; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 10:17:08 -0500 Message-ID: <3627682B.A23@infopoint.it> Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 16:37:15 +0100 From: Luca Manzato Organization: La Tipografica Varese spa X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 Old-To: acrobat@blueworld.com CC: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Opening pdf at a specific page # Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Software: LetterRip Pro 3.0.2 by Fog City Software, Inc. List-Subscribe: List-Digest: List-Unsubscribe: X-List-Administrator: X-List-Archives: X-List-Guidelines: X-Loop: karlin@rsch.com Old-To: nkarlin@panix.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com X-Loop: forwarded by miller@performancegraphics.com To: millercs@earthlink.net Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Hi all. I'd appreciate your help to solve this (BIG!?) problem: I need to open a pdf directly from my application (Delphi or Visual C++) to a specific page number. The pdfs are generated directly from Capture so that I cannot distill them using the Named Destination script. I need to reproduce the open file action, like from a bookmark or from a link. Is it possible? Using SDK is it possible to build such a function? I may also think to have a "3rd party" DLL (or something like it) that opens the pdf that I want at the wished page number. Does anybody can help me? Thanks in advance -- Luca Manzato La Tipografica Varese Spa Via Cherso, 2 21100 VARESE ** ITALY ** Tel: +39 332 330444 Fax: +39 332 331737 http://www.infopoint.it email: luca.manzato@infopoint.it --------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: List Archives : __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 16-Oct-1998 15:54:31-GMT,3621;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA26147 for ; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 09:54:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA02816; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 10:37:47 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 16 Oct 1998 10:35:29 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA02630; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 10:35:27 -0500 Message-Id: <199810161535.LAA09949@uakron.edu> From: "D.P.Story" Organization: The University of Akron To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 11:35:25 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: [PDF] Button Link to Another Page In PDF CC: "Karen L Mibus" In-reply-to: <8525669F.004F4A56.00@keybank.com> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01b) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== You can put in multiple actions with exchange: GoToViews or JavaScripts or any of the other action choices. On 16 Oct 98, at 10:33, Karen L Mibus wrote: > > ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > > > Dr. Story wrote: > This is a problem that has been discussed before. There is a way of > getting around this limitation. 1) go to the destination page an create > the button. Set it as Go to View and inherit zoom. 2) Next highlight > the button (the form button on toolbar bar is still pressed). > Then click on the menu item Edit > Fields > Duplicate. > 3) Duplicate the button to the page you want it on. > 4) Now go back to the first button on the the destination page and > delete it, being sure not to delete the duplicate button. 5) Go to your > duplicate button, and move it around to the position you want. Unclick > the Forms Button on the toolbar. 6) Now test your button. IT Works! > > Thank you for the workaround, but I need to add an action to a button that > links to another page in the PDF file. Is there a JavaScript for such an > action? I searched the Acrobat Support database without success. > > --Karen > > > > __________________________________________________________ > > -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- > *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** > + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + > __________________________________________________________ > > Dr. D. P. Story dpstory@uakron.edu http://www.math.uakron.edu/~dpstory/ Dept of Mathematics and Computer Science / University of Akron / Akron, Ohio 44325 AcroTeX Site Overview:http://www.math.uakron.edu/~dpstory/acrotex.html Site Highlights: e-Calculus; Algebra Review in Ten Lessons; Mathematical Games; Pdfmarks:Links and Forms; Using LaTeX to Create Quality PDF Documents for the WWW and much, much more. __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 16-Oct-1998 16:14:34-GMT,2096;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA26716 for ; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 10:14:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA04001; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 10:51:20 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 16 Oct 1998 10:48:40 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA03724; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 10:48:38 -0500 Message-ID: <36276CF2.91576435@severnet.com> Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 11:57:39 -0400 From: Jon Severn X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5b2 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdfZone Subject: [PDF] Printing Office Documents Automatically Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Does anyone know if there is a solution available to watch a directory (Windows) and automatically print any MS Office document that appears (using pdf writer or even a ps driver)? I could do this with OPEN or with Applescript on the Mac, but due to the potential for font changes, I would like to be able to make this work on Windows. I would rather buy than build. Thanks! Jonathan Severn Graphic Support Supervisor Reliance Insurance Company 215-864-1493 __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 16-Oct-1998 17:04:02-GMT,2014;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA28287 for ; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 11:03:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA06232; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 11:19:10 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 16 Oct 1998 11:16:39 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA06039; Fri, 16 Oct 1998 11:16:37 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: KEYCORP From: "Karen L Mibus" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com, dpstory@uakron.edu Message-ID: <8525669F.0058B5CA.00@keybank.com> Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 12:13:33 -0400 Subject: Re: [PDF] Button Link to Another Page In PDF Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Dr. Story and other members of PDF@lists: Do you know what the JavaScript strings are for linking to another page in a PDF file? I'm looking for a page naming convention for a PDF file and cannot find one in the Adobe JavaScript documentation or in their support database. I did find the PDFMark instructions for linking from an HTML page to a specific PDF page, but this information did not help. Thanks in advance for your help! --Karen L. Mibus karen_l_mibus@keybank.com __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. 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Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 18-Oct-1998 0:22:50-GMT,2501;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA10239 for ; Sat, 17 Oct 1998 18:22:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA25997; Sat, 17 Oct 1998 19:04:10 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 17 Oct 1998 18:59:05 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA25707; Sat, 17 Oct 1998 18:59:01 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Message-Id: Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 19:01:18 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Kurt Foss Subject: [PDF] ATTN: Mac OS 8.5 & Acrobat Exchange 3.01 problems reported Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== With the release today of Apple's latest OS -- version 8.5 -- begins a new round of software conflict sightings & rumors. 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Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 18-Oct-1998 0:32:01-GMT,12986;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA10411 for ; Sat, 17 Oct 1998 18:32:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA26992; Sat, 17 Oct 1998 19:21:17 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 17 Oct 1998 19:20:21 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA26923; Sat, 17 Oct 1998 19:20:20 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1998 01:18:27 +0100 From: "Julian Jones" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] pdf-digest for October-17-98 [V2 #348] -Reply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id TAA26918 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== ** High Priority ** I am out of the office from Friday 15th October until Wednesday the 28th October. Please speak to Marcus Paddison x2612 or Lori Foster x2065 if your enquiry is urgent. Regards Julian Jones >>> "pdf@lists.pdfzone.com" 10/18/98 00:59 >>> To Unsubscribe, SEND TO: mailto:pdf-digest-request@lists.pdfzone.com This TEXT in BODY: unsubscribe pdf-digest Saturday, October 17 1998 Volume 02 : Number 348 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- There are 5 messages totalling 361 lines in this issue. Topics of the Day: 1. Re: [PDF] Button Link to Another Page In PDF 2. [PDF] Printing Office Documents Automatically 3. Re: [PDF] Button Link to Another Page In PDF 4. [PDF] FYI> Weekly TOC for PDF Showcase 5. [PDF] ATTN: Mac OS 8.5 & Acrobat Exchange 3.01 problems reported ____________________________________________________ This is the Digest of the PDF discussion list * sponsored & managed by The PDFzone * http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Archive: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ ____________________________________________________ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 11:35:25 -0400 From: "D.P.Story" Subject: Re: [PDF] Button Link to Another Page In PDF ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== You can put in multiple actions with exchange: GoToViews or JavaScripts or any of the other action choices. On 16 Oct 98, at 10:33, Karen L Mibus wrote: > > ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > > > Dr. Story wrote: > This is a problem that has been discussed before. There is a way of > getting around this limitation. 1) go to the destination page an create > the button. Set it as Go to View and inherit zoom. 2) Next highlight > the button (the form button on toolbar bar is still pressed). > Then click on the menu item Edit > Fields > Duplicate. > 3) Duplicate the button to the page you want it on. > 4) Now go back to the first button on the the destination page and > delete it, being sure not to delete the duplicate button. 5) Go to your > duplicate button, and move it around to the position you want. Unclick > the Forms Button on the toolbar. 6) Now test your button. IT Works! > > Thank you for the workaround, but I need to add an action to a button that > links to another page in the PDF file. Is there a JavaScript for such an > action? I searched the Acrobat Support database without success. > > --Karen > > > > __________________________________________________________ > > -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- > *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** > + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + > __________________________________________________________ > > Dr. D. P. Story dpstory@uakron.edu http://www.math.uakron.edu/~dpstory/ Dept of Mathematics and Computer Science / University of Akron / Akron, Ohio 44325 AcroTeX Site Overview:http://www.math.uakron.edu/~dpstory/acrotex.html Site Highlights: e-Calculus; Algebra Review in Ten Lessons; Mathematical Games; Pdfmarks:Links and Forms; Using LaTeX to Create Quality PDF Documents for the WWW and much, much more. __________________________________________________________ - -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 11:57:39 -0400 From: Jon Severn Subject: [PDF] Printing Office Documents Automatically ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Does anyone know if there is a solution available to watch a directory (Windows) and automatically print any MS Office document that appears (using pdf writer or even a ps driver)? I could do this with OPEN or with Applescript on the Mac, but due to the potential for font changes, I would like to be able to make this work on Windows. I would rather buy than build. Thanks! Jonathan Severn Graphic Support Supervisor Reliance Insurance Company 215-864-1493 __________________________________________________________ - -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 12:13:33 -0400 From: "Karen L Mibus" Subject: Re: [PDF] Button Link to Another Page In PDF ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Dr. Story and other members of PDF@lists: Do you know what the JavaScript strings are for linking to another page in a PDF file? I'm looking for a page naming convention for a PDF file and cannot find one in the Adobe JavaScript documentation or in their support database. I did find the PDFMark instructions for linking from an HTML page to a specific PDF page, but this information did not help. Thanks in advance for your help! - --Karen L. Mibus karen_l_mibus@keybank.com __________________________________________________________ - -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 17:27:01 -0500 From: Kurt Foss Subject: [PDF] FYI> Weekly TOC for PDF Showcase ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== _________________________________________ Weekly Table of Contents for the daily "PDF Showcase" feature from PDFzone.COM __________________________________________ PDF Showcase spotlights uses and users of the portable document format, such as this week's selections: * Monday, Oct. 12 -- Aanraku Stained Glass - --------------------- http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/showcase/stained-glass.html Available for free downloading in PDF are 8.5 x 11-inch patterns of several stained-glass window designs. 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NOTE: depending on one's browser configuration, the pdf files may open into the frames-based browser window, thus reducing considerably in physical size -- definitely *not* readable on line within the partial browser window. * An archive of previous Showcase selections is also available at: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/showcase/sharchive.html * The most recent selection is always available at: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/showcase/ === PDF Showcase is a weekday feature of PDFzone.COM, an independent resource and hub site for users of Adobe Acrobat & pdf. Other free resources include: * several pdf-related email discussion lists * searchable list archives * a free ezine * comprehensive listing of tools & plug-ins * tips & tricks section * Acrobat PDF WebRing * PDF Bookshelf and MORE! __________________________________________________________ - -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 19:01:18 -0500 From: Kurt Foss Subject: [PDF] ATTN: Mac OS 8.5 & Acrobat Exchange 3.01 problems reported ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== With the release today of Apple's latest OS -- version 8.5 -- begins a new round of software conflict sightings & rumors. Among those apparently already confirmed is a problem using Acrobat Exchange 3.01 (Mac, obviously!) under OS8.5. Apple has posted a new help file at: http://til.info.apple.com/techinfo.nsf/artnum/N24674 You can jump directly to the MacFixit Web site's discussion of this problem (along with numerous others being reported) at: http://www.macfixit.com/reports/macos8.5-a.shtml#atm rgds ~ Kurt __________________________________________________ * P D F z o n e . C O M * __________________________________________________ (800)829-2459 (608)829-3454 x102 579 D'Onofrio Dr. FAX: (608)829-3561 Suite 104 EMAIL: mailto:info@pdfzone.com Madison, WI 53719 WWW: http://www.pdfzone.com/ - ------------------------------------------------------------- Lists info: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html __________________________________________________________ - -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ End of pdf-digest V2 #348 ************************* __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 18-Oct-1998 1:04:06-GMT,2577;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA10969 for ; Sat, 17 Oct 1998 19:04:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA28142; Sat, 17 Oct 1998 19:48:23 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 17 Oct 1998 19:47:26 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA28076; Sat, 17 Oct 1998 19:47:25 -0500 Message-ID: <000301bdfa30$9af89b00$1f40dec2@demon.co.uk> From: "Nic Plum" To: X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.0518.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.0518.4 Subject: [PDF] Autoindex Fails to Initialise in Acrobat Reader Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1998 01:13:03 +0100 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== This might be "finger trouble", but I've been having problems with the Autoindex plug in:- - copy it to the Reader Plugin folder - start Reader - get an error stating that the index failed to initialise It works fine in Exchange but I thought from the documentation that it was supposed to work in both. Without it working with Reader the benefits of being able to link to an index are pretty limited. Has anyone else experienced this problem or am I doing the wrong thing? Cheers. Nic -- _____________________________________________________________________ Buckden, < www.nplum.demon.co.uk/temptin/ > Huntingdon, For information management and Cambs, Adobe Acrobat integration from UK. within your favourite PE18 9SZ wordprocessor Fax: National 0870 0547328 International +44 870 0547328 _____________________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 19-Oct-1998 8:46:12-GMT,2173;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA14115 for ; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 02:46:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA01362; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 03:22:16 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 19 Oct 1998 03:13:50 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA00914; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 03:13:48 -0500 Date: Mon, 19 Oct 98 09:06:22 From: The Midlands Book Typesetting Co Subject: [PDF] Unusual Character changing To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-PRIORITY: 3 (Normal) X-Mailer: Chameleon 5.0, TCP/IP for Windows, NetManage Inc. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=ISO-8859-1; X-MAC-TYPE=54455854; X-MAC-CREATOR=4D4F5353 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Hello, Im am currently setting a number of hyperlinks for figure and table, however, when the text colour is to be changed with text attributes, a number of '¬' characters appear where tabs have been used. Has anyone seen anything similar? Thanks Anthony The Midlands Book Typesetting Company 62 Queens Road Loughborough Leics LE11 1HH Tel: +44 (0)1509 210920 Fax: +44 (0)1509 269607 e-mail: midlandbook@ndirect.co.uk Online quotation service Date: 19/10/98 Time: 09:06:22 __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 19-Oct-1998 9:34:09-GMT,2279;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA14874 for ; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 03:34:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA03337; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 04:09:34 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 19 Oct 1998 04:07:18 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA03236; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 04:07:15 -0500 Content-return: allowed Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 11:05:26 +0200 From: Beretta Roberto Subject: [PDF] Generating PDF from TIFF from a script on Unix OS To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Message-id: <9187FF572943D211B28100805FC130FC0380B3@xrr1.cselt.stet.it> X-Envelope-to: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== We're developing a script to generate automatically PDF files starting from TIFF images. Because Acrobat Capture for Unix doesn't exists, we chosed to convert TIFF to PS and then convert them to PDF using Acrobat Distiller for UNIX. The problem is how to rotate pages aqquired automatically from scanner, when page orientation needs a rotation to make page readable using Acrobat Reader. Any suggestions about how to decide from a script if the page needs to be rotated ? Thank to everybody for any suggestion. Roberto Beretta CSELT SpA Via Reiss Romoli 274 10148 Torino tel. : +39 011 2285015 fax.: +39 011 2287185 __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 19-Oct-1998 14:26:37-GMT,3632;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA20083 for ; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 08:26:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA15198; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 09:00:59 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 19 Oct 1998 08:57:19 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA14959; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 08:57:17 -0500 From: "MCS" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Unusual Character changing Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 08:57:24 -0500 Message-ID: <000601bdfb68$66340e20$523e5fcc@archetyp> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== I had something fairly similar with a Truetype Keystroke font. I was using PageMaker 6.5 on Windows 98. It appeared fine on screen (and had printed correctly in other locations in the document). When distilled, the document had the correct font sitting on the bottom and the equivalent characters in a different typeface floating above as if on a layer. Adobe was no help. Finally, I tried rebooting my machine and it was fine on the next attempt. My guess was that I was low on memory. PageMaker has been notorious over the years for problems like this. It used to occasionally drop lines into a page when printed that were invisible on screen for the same situation. My guess is that a reboot may take care of it. Kevin Jackson Triskelian Design archetyp@mcs.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com [mailto:owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com]On Behalf Of The Midlands Book Typesetting Co Sent: Monday, October 19, 1998 4:06 AM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Unusual Character changing ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Hello, Im am currently setting a number of hyperlinks for figure and table, however, when the text colour is to be changed with text attributes, a number of '¬' characters appear where tabs have been used. Has anyone seen anything similar? Thanks Anthony The Midlands Book Typesetting Company 62 Queens Road Loughborough Leics LE11 1HH Tel: +44 (0)1509 210920 Fax: +44 (0)1509 269607 e-mail: midlandbook@ndirect.co.uk Online quotation service Date: 19/10/98 Time: 09:06:22 __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. 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Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 19-Oct-1998 15:10:55-GMT,2053;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA21363 for ; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 09:10:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA17950; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 09:49:52 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 19 Oct 1998 09:47:32 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA17725; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 09:47:31 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: KEYCORP From: "Karen L Mibus" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <852566A2.0050E851.00@keybank.com> Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 10:44:16 -0400 Subject: [PDF] Acrobat 3.02 for Windows 95 Errors Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== I installed Acrobat Reader 3.02 for Windows 95 and received this error message when I attempted to open it: "There was an error while loading the plug-in 'AFILL32.API'. Two plug-ins are attempting to register with the same name." Acrobat Reader 3.02 was installed in my Acrobat3 directory where there is also a separate plug-ins directory called Plugins. Is my Reader trying to access the AFILL32.API from both? I also have Exchange 3.01 that accesses the plug-ins. Any clues as to what I need to do to correct this problem? --Karen __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 19-Oct-1998 16:39:28-GMT,3254;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA23988 for ; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 10:39:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA22924; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 11:13:59 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 19 Oct 1998 11:11:12 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA22790; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 11:11:10 -0500 Message-Id: <97F39596DEEECF11BC020000C09361E55431A5@MV_EXCHANGE_2> From: "Teague, Tommy K" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] Acrobat 3.02 for Windows 95 Errors Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 10:09:23 -0600 Importance: high X-Priority: 1 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id LAA22786 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== You should remove the plug-in called AFORM32.API, since the 3.02 installation does not explicitly remove it for you. The "safest" thing to do is to have uninstalled 3.01 before you installed 3.02. But, if you had 3.01 with Search, them simplest thing to do install 3.02 on top of 3.01 and then remove this plug-in and then to remove the shortcuts that still refer to 3.01. Tommy Teague Product Information Mission Viejo Net² 656-5571 -----Original Message----- From: Karen L Mibus [mailto:Karen_L_Mibus@keybank.com] Sent: Monday, October 19, 1998 7:44 AM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Acrobat 3.02 for Windows 95 Errors ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== I installed Acrobat Reader 3.02 for Windows 95 and received this error message when I attempted to open it: "There was an error while loading the plug-in 'AFILL32.API'. Two plug-ins are attempting to register with the same name." Acrobat Reader 3.02 was installed in my Acrobat3 directory where there is also a separate plug-ins directory called Plugins. Is my Reader trying to access the AFILL32.API from both? I also have Exchange 3.01 that accesses the plug-ins. Any clues as to what I need to do to correct this problem? --Karen __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 19-Oct-1998 16:48:44-GMT,2429;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA24248 for ; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 10:48:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA23918; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 11:29:56 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 19 Oct 1998 11:27:33 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA23768; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 11:27:32 -0500 Message-ID: From: Nathan Keller To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Cc: quite@dial.pipex.com Subject: [PDF] AV<-- --> AV text attribute values Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 09:27:28 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Hello. We have a problem where we have an acd file which looks fine as far as the spacing of characters in a line. However, when saved as a pdf and opened in exchange, the spacing of the characters in some of the lines is very slim or looks non-existent. The characters look all pushed together. If we change the value in "text attributes" to (+) 100 or so (it is always a negative # of about 200 or so) then that pdf line is fixed and looks fine. Why are some lines which looked fine before, messed up by saving as a pdf? If there is not a solution to this problem could a plugin be written for Exchange that would search a pdf for AV<-- --> AV text attribute values of less than _________ and replace with ________? Sincerely, Nathan Keller Technical Support Career Guidance Foundation nathank@cgf.org (800) 854-2670 http://www.collegesource.org __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 19-Oct-1998 17:11:43-GMT,2008;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA24908 for ; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 11:11:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA24941; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 11:49:01 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 19 Oct 1998 11:46:28 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA24813; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 11:46:27 -0500 Message-ID: <01BDFB4D.B3D55C80@howards.oecmed.com> From: Michael Johnson To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Acrobat ACE Study Guide Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 10:46:17 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id LAA24808 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== I'm taking the Acrobat ACE test in December, and have had a hard time finding good study materials. Adobe's Classroom in a Book covers the basics, and the on-line help fills in a few more gaps. But there is quite a bit of stuff in the study guide I can't find reference material for. Can anybody recommend a good study guide? TIA, Mike Johnson Michaelj@oecmed.com Writer@wasatch.com __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 19-Oct-1998 17:12:11-GMT,1753;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA24921 for ; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 11:12:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA25273; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 11:54:29 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 19 Oct 1998 11:52:20 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA25128; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 11:52:19 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: KEYCORP From: "Karen L Mibus" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <852566A2.005C378A.00@keybank.com> Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 12:49:11 -0400 Subject: RE: [PDF] Acrobat 3.02 for Windows 95 Errors Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Tommy Teague, Thank you for your help. Your suggestion worked! Actually, I did try to install Acrobat Reader 3.02 over Reader 3.01 without success. I had to go back and delete Reader 3.01. I do have Reader 3.02 with Search. --Karen __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 19-Oct-1998 17:12:31-GMT,3354;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA24933 for ; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 11:12:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA25392; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 11:55:32 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 19 Oct 1998 11:53:24 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA25195; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 11:53:22 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Livingston, Thomas S" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Acrobat 3.02 for Windows 95 Errors Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 09:51:21 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2407.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Karen, I had the same problem when I opened a Reader with the Plugin from the network on my PC where I also had a Reader with the Plugin (Reader 3.02). I think that the problem is tied into the program you're using. If you have Reader 3.01 in the Acrobat3 directory that uses the AFILL32.API and you also have Reader 3.02, that's probably the problem. The problem wouldn't be between Exchange and Reader. If you have the two versions of Reader, you may want to move one off of your PC and try opening Reader again. I don't think you'll get the error message. Tom > ---------- > From: Karen L Mibus[SMTP:Karen_L_Mibus@keybank.com] > Reply To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Sent: Monday, October 19, 1998 7:44 AM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: [PDF] Acrobat 3.02 for Windows 95 Errors > > > ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > > > I installed Acrobat Reader 3.02 for Windows 95 and received this error > message when I attempted to open it: > > "There was an error while loading the plug-in 'AFILL32.API'. Two plug-ins > are attempting to register with the same name." > > Acrobat Reader 3.02 was installed in my Acrobat3 directory where there is > also a separate plug-ins directory called Plugins. Is my Reader trying to > access the AFILL32.API from both? I also have Exchange 3.01 that accesses > the plug-ins. Any clues as to what I need to do to correct this problem? > > --Karen > > > > > __________________________________________________________ > > -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- > *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** > + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + > __________________________________________________________ > __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 19-Oct-1998 17:14:59-GMT,2163;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA25019 for ; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 11:14:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA25677; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 11:59:41 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 19 Oct 1998 11:57:11 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA25471; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 11:57:05 -0500 Message-ID: From: Nathan Keller To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Cc: quite@dial.pipex.com Subject: [PDF] Dot leaders Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 09:57:01 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Hello again. Another problem/wish list item. All of the documents we produce have indexes with lots of dot leaders (i.e. ....................). Is there a plug-in that any body knows of that will go through a pdf and find ___________ and replace with ________? Right know we are doing the "find and replace" but you have to click "find next" and "replace" each time. If there is no way to do this or plugin out there that does this, could one be written? Thanks in advance. Sincerely, Nathan Keller Technical Support Career Guidance Foundation nathank@cgf.org (800) 854-2670 http://www.collegesource.org __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 19-Oct-1998 17:35:27-GMT,1544;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA25662 for ; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 11:35:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA27015; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 12:19:57 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 19 Oct 1998 12:17:22 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA26879; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 12:17:21 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: KEYCORP From: "Karen L Mibus" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <852566A2.005E94A7.00@keybank.com> Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 13:14:12 -0400 Subject: Re: [PDF] Acrobat ACE Study Guide Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== What is the Acrobat ACE test? --Karen __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 19-Oct-1998 17:35:36-GMT,2886;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA25669 for ; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 11:35:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA27245; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 12:23:04 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 19 Oct 1998 12:20:53 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA27087; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 12:20:52 -0500 Message-ID: <362B864C.6A1C96C3@kiwi.futuris.net> Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 13:34:55 -0500 From: "Robert E. Moran" Organization: Digital Constructs Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Acrobat ACE Study Guide References: <01BDFB4D.B3D55C80@howards.oecmed.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Check out the DC tutorials at www.dconstructs.com They might give you what you want. Bob Moran Michael Johnson wrote: > ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > > I'm taking the Acrobat ACE test in December, and have had a hard time finding good study materials. Adobe's Classroom in a Book covers the basics, and the on-line help fills in a few more gaps. But there is quite a bit of stuff in the study guide I can't find reference material for. > > Can anybody recommend a good study guide? > > TIA, > > Mike Johnson > Michaelj@oecmed.com > Writer@wasatch.com > > __________________________________________________________ > > -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- > *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** > + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + > __________________________________________________________ -- Robert E. Moran Digital Constructs Inc. 759 North Park Avenue Redding, CT 06896 Voice 203-452-1116 Fax 203-452-0416 e-mail remoran@dconstructs.com e-mail remoran@kiwi.futuris.net Web Site: PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 19-Oct-1998 19:18:58-GMT,3075;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA28442 for ; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 13:18:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA32216; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 13:59:09 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 19 Oct 1998 13:56:26 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA32022; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 13:56:24 -0500 Content-return: allowed Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 14:56:02 -0400 From: "Watson, James R (Columbus)" Subject: RE: [PDF] Weblink targeting another frame ? To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Message-id: <5913080CA46DD111A98200A0C9960C10691DC8@ns-bco-mse7.im.battelle.org> X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Did you get an answer? We used three frames on a project. The left contained an html index, the right was generally a PDF file, the bottom was like a tab index to sections. It can be done. However, the client decided that he wanted all HTML so we accommodated. Have a great day.... Jim > -----Original Message----- > From: Su, Francisco [SMTP:SUF@sce.com] > Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 1998 8:06 PM > To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' > Subject: [PDF] Weblink targeting another frame ? > > > ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > > Hi, > > I just joined this list and I am not sure whether or not this has been > asked > before. > > I am trying to create a web page with 2 frames, one on the left and the > other on the right. The left frame will contain a PDF file with weblinks, > while the right frame will have HTML pages. > > My question is: would it be possible to make the weblinks in the left > frame > PDF file so that when clicked will target the right frame, similar as it > can > be done here ? > > > > Thank you for you help !! > > Frank Su > Southern California Edison > suf@sce.com > > __________________________________________________________ > > -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- > *** Sponsorship & Advt. 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Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 19-Oct-1998 20:00:23-GMT,2568;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA29467 for ; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 14:00:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA02391; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 14:42:13 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 19 Oct 1998 14:39:43 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA02229; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 14:39:41 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Harpale, Mahesh" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] PDF Writer/Distiller don't work form within NT Service Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 15:32:11 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Hi! I have an application which creates a report in real time and prints it on a PDF Writer to generate real time PDF documents. This application works in the batch mode. I need to run this application as an NT Service. Now whenever, I run it as an NT Service, my Acrobat Writing fails because it does not find the Acrobat Writer Name in the Printers. This same application if I run it normally (not as an NT Service) works fine. I also tried to create a postscript file & then distill it. But that also fails because it does not find the PostScript Printer Name. Has anybody faced such problem or have any idea about this? Any help in this regard will be greatly appreciated. Thank you in advance. Regards, Mahesh. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------ Mahesh Harpale E-Mail: mharpal@indcon.com Phone: (201) 261-3100 (ext. 237) Fax: (201) 261-1399 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------ __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. 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Has the URL changed? TIA - Linda __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 19-Oct-1998 22:02:36-GMT,2737;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA02542 for ; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 16:02:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA09924; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 16:46:17 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 19 Oct 1998 16:44:04 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA09749; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 16:44:01 -0500 Message-ID: <00EF773582D6D111939D00A0C9A92F64021034CD@il0015exch003u.ih.lucent.com> From: "Farrell, Kevin (Kevin)" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] Acrobat 3.02 for Windows 95 Errors Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 16:43:22 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== It appears that you have both the Forms Author and Forms Fill-in plug-ins. You only need the Author (it contains the filler already). _____________________________________ Kevin Farrell Lucent Technologies Electronic Media Networked Services (EMNS) ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== I installed Acrobat Reader 3.02 for Windows 95 and received this error message when I attempted to open it: "There was an error while loading the plug-in 'AFILL32.API'. Two plug-ins are attempting to register with the same name." Acrobat Reader 3.02 was installed in my Acrobat3 directory where there is also a separate plug-ins directory called Plugins. Is my Reader trying to access the AFILL32.API from both? I also have Exchange 3.01 that accesses the plug-ins. Any clues as to what I need to do to correct this problem? --Karen __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. 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Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 19-Oct-1998 23:05:54-GMT,3253;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA04431 for ; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 17:05:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA12731; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 17:44:11 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 19 Oct 1998 17:41:12 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA12589; Mon, 19 Oct 1998 17:41:10 -0500 Message-ID: From: Robert Porter To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Acrobat 3.02 for Windows 95 Errors Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 13:15:52 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="---- =_NextPart_001_01BDFB92.CD14E4DC" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------ =_NextPart_001_01BDFB92.CD14E4DC Content-Type: text/plain Tommy.Teague@unisys.com Wrote : >You should remove the plug-in called AFORM32.API, since the 3.02 >installation does not explicitly remove it for you. Do you know if the AFILL32 plugin is the same as the form fill plugin that was released separately a few months back, or has it been updated for 3.02? robert v porter iv applications developer renaissanceinteractive ------ =_NextPart_001_01BDFB92.CD14E4DC Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: [PDF] Acrobat 3.02 for Windows 95 Errors

Tommy.Teague@unisys.com Wrote :
>You should remove the plug-in called = AFORM32.API, since the 3.02
>installation does not explicitly remove it for = you.

Do you know if the AFILL32 plugin is the same as the = form fill plugin that was released separately a few months back, or has = it been updated for 3.02?

robert v porter iv
applications developer
renaissanceinteractive

------ =_NextPart_001_01BDFB92.CD14E4DC-- __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 20-Oct-1998 13:37:01-GMT,1856;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA21410 for ; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 07:36:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA11154; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 07:58:21 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 20 Oct 1998 07:47:53 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA10458; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 07:47:51 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: KEYCORP From: "Karen L Mibus" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <852566A3.0045D8EC.00@keybank.com> Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 08:44:25 -0400 Subject: RE: [PDF] Acrobat 3.02 for Windows 95 Errors Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Hi, folks: Just to let everyone know I solved my Acrobat 3.02 for Windows 95 Errors by following this advice: Tommy.Teague@unisys.com Wrote : >You should remove the plug-in called AFORM32.API, since the 3.02 >installation does not explicitly remove it for you. Thanks for all your help! This list is most impressive! --Karen __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 20-Oct-1998 15:00:29-GMT,3182;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA23433 for ; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 09:00:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA16457; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 09:30:04 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 20 Oct 1998 09:27:21 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA16290; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 09:27:19 -0500 Message-Id: <199810201427.JAA16281@everglades.binc.net> Date: 20 Oct 98 10:23:35 -0500 From: Justin Blocksom Subject: RE: [PDF] AV<-- --> AV text attribute values To: pdf X-Mailer: QuickMail Pro 1.5.2 (Mac) X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-Ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id JAA16286 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Reply to: RE: [PDF] AV<-- --> AV text attribute values Are you creating a PDF file with PDF Writer? It sounds to me like a classic PDF Writer issue. Writer handles charector spacing poorly especially when it comes to "flagged" text (hitting the "italic" button vs. using the italic font) and almost all specialty charectors. (ie. - (){}[]'*" etc.) I wrestled with this for over 3 months and the solution is to use Distiller to create the PDF. . Justin Blocksom Printing & Publications Corp. Langhorne, PA jblocksom@printandpub.com . Nathan Keller wrote: > >====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > >Hello. We have a problem where we have an acd file which looks fine as far >as the spacing of characters in a line. However, when saved as a pdf and >opened in exchange, the spacing of the characters in some of the lines is >very slim or looks non-existent. The characters look all pushed together. If >we change the value in "text attributes" to (+) 100 or so (it is always a >negative # of about 200 or so) then that pdf line is fixed and looks fine. > >Why are some lines which looked fine before, messed up by saving as a pdf? >If there is not a solution to this problem could a plugin be written for >Exchange that would search a pdf for AV<-- --> AV text attribute values of >less than _________ and replace with ________? > > >Sincerely, > >Nathan Keller >Technical Support >Career Guidance Foundation >nathank@cgf.org >(800) 854-2670 >http://www.collegesource.org __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 20-Oct-1998 16:38:58-GMT,2089;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA26413 for ; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 10:38:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA22197; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 11:02:06 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 20 Oct 1998 10:58:13 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA21942; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 10:58:10 -0500 Message-ID: <362CB308.2D05C9C9@infogrp.com> Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 11:58:00 -0400 From: "Chris Curley" Organization: THE INFO GROUP X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: PDF Mailing List Subject: [PDF] Acrobat 3.02 and 3.01RA PCL fix Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Hi all, A few quick questions for ya. I searched the Adobe website and found no answer to the following question: Does the 3.02 release contain the PCL printing fix of the 3.01RA release? Is 3.02 still beta at this time? Can anyone direct me to some release notes for 3.02? It would be nice if my customers would no longer need to install the 3.01RA fix after installing the 3.01 reader so they can print to PCL printers. Thanks in advance! Regards, Chris Curley Doc. Mananger The Info Group __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 20-Oct-1998 16:44:33-GMT,2618;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA26592 for ; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 10:44:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA23557; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 11:23:12 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 20 Oct 1998 11:19:36 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA23274; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 11:19:35 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Images disappear... Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 17:17:24 +0100 Message-ID: <000601bdfc45$29b4ce20$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <362CB1BA.3060@zianet.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== I'm assuming you're 1. Using Touch-up (the T icon) and 2. Using Exchange 3.0. Many problems with this go away if you use Exchange 3.01. But I'll add this: in my opinion the touch up tool was only conceived to help with Capture, and isn't intended as a heavyweight editing tool. It's better to change your original, though only you know whether you are running the risk of losing changes by not applying to the original... or, look into Pitstop (www.enfocus.com). Aandi > I am new to pdf and wanted to know if this was normal and if > not, what I > am doing wrong. > > When I make any kind of change to text, all of my images > disappear. This > has happened twice on two different documents. It has happened to a > friend of mine that works on a PC [I work on a Mac]. My work > around has > been to make any changes back in Quark but that is very time consuming > for small changes. > __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 20-Oct-1998 16:45:06-GMT,2262;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA26615 for ; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 10:44:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA22196; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 11:02:05 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 20 Oct 1998 10:57:58 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA21890; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 10:57:56 -0500 Message-ID: <362CB1BA.3060@zianet.com> Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 09:52:26 -0600 From: W8N X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Images disappear... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Hello PDF'ers: I am new to pdf and wanted to know if this was normal and if not, what I am doing wrong. When I make any kind of change to text, all of my images disappear. This has happened twice on two different documents. It has happened to a friend of mine that works on a PC [I work on a Mac]. My work around has been to make any changes back in Quark but that is very time consuming for small changes. Is this a feature or do I merely have to uncheck something after I am done editing? I looked everywhere and could not find any references to vanishing images other than in the "show capture suspects" section. Am I working in some kind of "amateur" mode? I am sure it must be something simple but I have no clue what it might be. Thanks, Jorge __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 20-Oct-1998 16:45:48-GMT,3373;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA26636 for ; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 10:45:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA23707; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 11:24:50 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 20 Oct 1998 11:22:40 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA23469; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 11:22:38 -0500 Message-ID: <362CBA8C.63DB8674@gtsgraphics.com> Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 09:30:04 -0700 From: Judith Strawser X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Re: pdf-digest for October-20-98 [V2 #350] References: <199810201247.HAA10475@everglades.binc.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by gts-int.com id JAA17238 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id LAA23464 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== We recently had the same problem. A customer sent us postscript files with embedded fonts that were produced on a Xyvision system. The problem didn't appear until we edited the text in Exchange and found, as you said, '¬' replacing the tab. We also found math symbols (square root, etc.) disappearing. It took headscratching and a font utility from an archaic Penta system to track the problem. With the utility, we printed out font maps of the embedded fonts (common postscript fonts) and compared them to our Adobe version fonts. I don't know how the customer managed it, but the fonts embedded in the files were not the same fonts they used when they printed. (We had a copy of the printed product) Sure enough, the '¬' was in the position of the tab and nothing was in the position of the square root, etc. We had to strip out the embedded font information from the postscript files and replace them with the correct versions. Problem solved. Hope this helps. Judith > - -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com [mailto:owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com]On > Behalf Of The Midlands Book Typesetting Co > Sent: Monday, October 19, 1998 4:06 AM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: [PDF] Unusual Character changing > > ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > > Hello, > > Im am currently setting a number of hyperlinks for figure and table, > however, when the > text colour is to be changed with text attributes, a number of '¬' > characters appear where > tabs have been used. Has anyone seen anything similar? > > Thanks > Anthony __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 20-Oct-1998 16:52:43-GMT,7862;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA26892 for ; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 10:52:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA23820; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 11:26:29 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 20 Oct 1998 11:24:18 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA23663; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 11:24:17 -0500 Message-ID: <85D2D0E1FE66D21199FB00104B1F95D50141E3@mail.document-solutions.com> From: Duff Johnson To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] AV<-- --> AV text attribute values Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 09:27:42 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01BDFC46.901F4240" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01BDFC46.901F4240 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Nathan: We have observed the same problem with ACD files. The issue is fairly characterized as a bug, I think. As such, a plug-in may not be the good way to address it. We have avoided the issue by treating text/font issues globally (limited to the full page -- NOT the document -- by Reviewer). Also... use Control-T and Control-I EXCLUSIVELY for zooming (ie, ignore the toolbar icons) - this defeats a similar, sometimes related problem with "popped" text lines. regards, Duff Johnson President, Document Solutions, Inc. 1611 Telegraph Avenue, Suite 1010 Oakland, CA 94612 510-986-0250 FAX: 510-986-0636 duffj@document-solutions.com www.document-solutions.com > Hello. We have a problem where we have an acd file which > looks fine as far > as the spacing of characters in a line. However, when saved > as a pdf and > opened in exchange, the spacing of the characters in some of > the lines is > very slim or looks non-existent. The characters look all > pushed together. If > we change the value in "text attributes" to (+) 100 or so (it > is always a > negative # of about 200 or so) then that pdf line is fixed > and looks fine. > > Why are some lines which looked fine before, messed up by > saving as a pdf? > If there is not a solution to this problem could a plugin be > written for > Exchange that would search a pdf for AV<-- --> AV text > attribute values of > less than _________ and replace with ________? > > > Sincerely, > > Nathan Keller > Technical Support > Career Guidance Foundation > nathank@cgf.org > (800) 854-2670 > http://www.collegesource.org > > __________________________________________________________ > > -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- > *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** > + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + > __________________________________________________________ > ------_=_NextPart_001_01BDFC46.901F4240 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: [PDF] AV<-- --> AV text attribute values

Nathan:

We have observed the same problem with ACD = files.

The issue is fairly characterized as a bug, I = think.  As such, a plug-in may not be the good way to address = it.  We have avoided the issue by treating text/font issues = globally (limited to the full page -- NOT the document -- by Reviewer). =

Also... use Control-T and Control-I EXCLUSIVELY for = zooming (ie, ignore the toolbar icons) - this defeats a similar, = sometimes related problem with "popped" text = lines.

regards,

Duff Johnson
President, Document Solutions, Inc.
1611 Telegraph Avenue, Suite 1010
Oakland, CA 94612
510-986-0250  FAX: 510-986-0636
duffj@document-solutions.com
www.document-solutions.com

> Hello. We have a problem where we have an acd = file which
> looks fine as far
> as the spacing of characters in a line. = However, when saved
> as a pdf and
> opened in exchange, the spacing of the = characters in some of
> the lines is
> very slim or looks non-existent. The characters = look all
> pushed together. If
> we change the value in "text = attributes" to (+) 100 or so (it
> is always a
> negative #  of about 200 or so) then that = pdf line is fixed
> and looks fine.
>
> Why are some lines which looked fine before, = messed up by
> saving as a pdf?
> If there is not a solution to this problem = could a plugin be
> written for
> Exchange that would search a pdf for AV<-- = --> AV text
> attribute values of
> less than _________ and replace with = ________?
>
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Nathan Keller
> Technical Support
> Career Guidance Foundation 
> nathank@cgf.org
> (800) 854-2670
> http://www.collegesource.org
>
> = __________________________________________________________
>
> -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to = All Things PDF" <--
> ***   Sponsorship & Advt. = Opportunities Now Available!   ***
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------_=_NextPart_001_01BDFC46.901F4240-- __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 20-Oct-1998 17:17:58-GMT,1718;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA27627 for ; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 11:17:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA25587; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 11:53:38 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 20 Oct 1998 11:51:20 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA25432; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 11:51:18 -0500 Message-Id: <9810209089.AA908902678@smtp.natureny.com> X-Mailer: ccMail Link to SMTP R6.00.02 Date: Tue, 20 Oct 98 12:58:41 -0500 From: "KELLY MODZELEWSKI" To: Subject: [PDF] pdf consultant MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== I am having trouble finding a PDF/Postscript/Quark consultant in the NY area. Does anyone have any thoughts? Thanks! - Kelly Modzelewski __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 20-Oct-1998 18:08:08-GMT,2246;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA29100 for ; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 12:08:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA28857; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 12:43:11 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 20 Oct 1998 12:40:31 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA28715; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 12:40:29 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] PDF Writer/Distiller don't work form within NT Service Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 18:32:59 +0100 Message-ID: <001001bdfc50$70c84c00$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== According to the Acrobat Developer FAQ on http://beta1.adobe.com/ada/acrosdk/, no part of the Acrobat suite is supported when run as a service. > > I have an application which creates a report in real time and > prints it > on a PDF Writer to generate real time PDF documents. This application > works in the batch mode. > > I need to run this application as an NT Service. Now > whenever, I run it > as an NT Service, my Acrobat Writing fails... __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 20-Oct-1998 17:00:05-GMT,6540;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA27065 for ; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 10:58:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA24563; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 11:37:22 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 20 Oct 1998 11:34:52 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA24369; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 11:34:49 -0500 Message-ID: <85D2D0E1FE66D21199FB00104B1F95D50141E5@mail.document-solutions.com> From: Duff Johnson To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Dot leaders Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 09:38:31 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01BDFC48.12981420" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01BDFC48.12981420 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Nathan: Your dot-leader problem is familiar to any Capture jockey... I doubt anyone will write a plug-in for this. (although I have often thought about a "reverse-OCR" engine that would detect and white-out recognized text, dot leaders, etc.). Our solution is to edit the TIFF file and delete the dot leaders prior to Capturing. Most folks are happy to lose the dots. If not, I think "Alt-R" is faster than clicking.... Duff Johnson President, Document Solutions, Inc. > Hello again. Another problem/wish list item. All of the > documents we produce > have indexes with lots of dot leaders (i.e. > ....................). Is there > a plug-in that any body knows of that will go through a pdf and find > ___________ and replace with ________? Right know we are > doing the "find and > replace" but you have to click "find next" and "replace" each time. > > If there is no way to do this or plugin out there that does > this, could one > be written? > > Thanks in advance. > > Sincerely, > > Nathan Keller > Technical Support > Career Guidance Foundation > nathank@cgf.org > (800) 854-2670 > http://www.collegesource.org > > __________________________________________________________ > > -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- > *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** > + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + > __________________________________________________________ > ------_=_NextPart_001_01BDFC48.12981420 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: [PDF] Dot leaders

Nathan:

Your dot-leader problem is familiar to any Capture = jockey...  I doubt anyone will write a plug-in for this. (although = I have often thought about a "reverse-OCR" engine that would = detect  and white-out recognized text, dot leaders, = etc.).

Our solution is to edit the TIFF file and delete the = dot leaders prior to Capturing.  Most folks are happy to lose the = dots.

If not, I think "Alt-R" is faster than = clicking....

Duff Johnson
President, Document Solutions, Inc.

> Hello again. Another problem/wish list item. All = of the
> documents we produce
> have indexes with lots of dot leaders (i.e. =
> ....................). Is there
> a plug-in that any body knows of that will go = through a pdf and find
> ___________ and replace with ________? Right = know we are
> doing the "find and
> replace" but you have to click "find = next" and "replace" each time.
>
> If there is no way to do this or plugin out = there that does
> this, could one
> be written?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Nathan Keller
> Technical Support
> Career Guidance Foundation 
> nathank@cgf.org
> (800) 854-2670
> http://www.collegesource.org
>
> = __________________________________________________________
>
> -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to = All Things PDF" <--
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------_=_NextPart_001_01BDFC48.12981420-- __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 20-Oct-1998 20:34:17-GMT,2105;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA03014 for ; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 14:34:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA05151; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 15:09:39 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 20 Oct 1998 15:05:40 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA04879; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 15:05:38 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: KEYCORP From: "Karen L Mibus" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <852566A3.006CEEFD.00@keybank.com> Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 15:52:10 -0400 Subject: Re: [PDF] Acrobat 3.02 and 3.01RA PCL fix Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== I hope Ada Yu does not have a problem with me posting her e-mail on this list. I did test Acrobat Reader 3.02 with a PDF file that had a screen capture and it printed fine on our PCL HP printer. I'm convinced that this version has the PCL fix included. Karen, According to my colleague, Acrobat 3.02 does have some bug fixes for PCL printing. If you found out Acrobat 3.02 still has problem in printing screen captured images, you can send me a sample file and I can try it here with our development release. Thanks. Ada Yue Quality Engineering Manager, Acrobat Adobe Systems Incorporated __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 20-Oct-1998 20:47:29-GMT,2873;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA03390 for ; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 14:47:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA06908; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 15:33:58 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 20 Oct 1998 15:31:40 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA06713; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 15:31:39 -0500 Message-Id: <97F39596DEEECF11BC020000C09361E5543BF8@MV_EXCHANGE_2> From: "Teague, Tommy K" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] Acrobat 3.02 and 3.01RA PCL fix Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 14:30:41 -0600 Importance: high X-Priority: 1 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== If you install Acrobat 3.02, the file AcroRD32.exe is identical to what you get when you apply the RA patch to the 6/16/97 version of AcroRD32.exe. (Note that the RA patch will not work against the 7/02/97 version, which is what you get with the self-extracting Reader with Search.) So 3.02 includes the RA patch. Moreover, 3.02 includes the same ActiveX control update (1.3.170) that was recently released. The Forms software included with 3.02 seems to be later than what was recently released. The file AFILL32.API which was installed with the Forms update I downloaded from the Web (11/25/97) has a version stamp of 3.05. The one installed with 3.02 (7/6/98) has a version stamp of 3.5.1.0. Be aware that the Forms update installs an older version of the ActiveX control, so you need to install the Forms update and then the ActiveX control update--if you apply these patches. I haven't yet seen a release of 3.02 with Search. As I previously recommended, what I would do is 1. Install Acrobat Reader 3.01 with Search. 2. Install Acrobat Reader 3.02 into the same directory. 3. Remove the plug-in called AFORM32.API. 4. Remove all shortcuts that include 3.01 in their descriptions. This will leave you with Acrobat Reader 3.02 with Search. Tommy Teague Unisys Corporation __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 21-Oct-1998 0:09:46-GMT,2912;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA08506 for ; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 18:09:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA17916; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 18:51:01 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 20 Oct 1998 18:48:18 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA17764; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 18:48:16 -0500 Message-Id: <199810202347.QAA03012@mail-303.corp.Adobe.COM> X-Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated X-Division: Core Technology X-Department: Product Interoperability Analysis X-URL: X-Location: Remote (ISAACS_REMOTE) X-Sender: isaacs@mail-303 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.2 Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 16:47:23 -0700 To: "Chris Curley" From: Dov Isaacs Subject: Re: [PDF] Acrobat 3.02 and 3.01RA PCL fix Cc: PDF Mailing List In-Reply-To: <362CB308.2D05C9C9@infogrp.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Acrobat 3.02 contains ALL the previously released fixes. It is not beta code. It's "done." - Dov At 10/20/98 08:58 AM , Chris Curley wrote: > >====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > >Hi all, > >A few quick questions for ya. I searched the Adobe website and found no >answer to the following question: Does the 3.02 release contain the PCL >printing fix of the 3.01RA release? Is 3.02 still beta at this time? >Can anyone direct me to some release notes for 3.02? It would be nice >if my customers would no longer need to install the 3.01RA fix after >installing the 3.01 reader so they can print to PCL printers. Thanks in >advance! > >Regards, > >Chris Curley >Doc. Mananger >The Info Group > > >__________________________________________________________ > >-> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- >*** Sponsorship & Advt. 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Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 21-Oct-1998 0:17:41-GMT,3588;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA08691 for ; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 18:17:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA18477; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 19:02:08 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 20 Oct 1998 18:59:52 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA18332; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 18:59:50 -0500 Message-Id: <199810202347.QAA03012@mail-303.corp.Adobe.COM> X-Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated X-Division: Core Technology X-Department: Product Interoperability Analysis X-URL: X-Location: Remote (ISAACS_REMOTE) X-Sender: isaacs@mail-303 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.2 Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 16:47:23 -0700 Old-To: "Chris Curley" From: Dov Isaacs Subject: Re: [PDF] Acrobat 3.02 and 3.01RA PCL fix Cc: PDF Mailing List In-Reply-To: <362CB308.2D05C9C9@infogrp.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com X-Loop: forwarded by miller@performancegraphics.com To: millercs@earthlink.net Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Acrobat 3.02 contains ALL the previously released fixes. It is not beta code. It's "done." - Dov At 10/20/98 08:58 AM , Chris Curley wrote: > >====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > >Hi all, > >A few quick questions for ya. I searched the Adobe website and found no >answer to the following question: Does the 3.02 release contain the PCL >printing fix of the 3.01RA release? Is 3.02 still beta at this time? >Can anyone direct me to some release notes for 3.02? It would be nice >if my customers would no longer need to install the 3.01RA fix after >installing the 3.01 reader so they can print to PCL printers. Thanks in >advance! > >Regards, > >Chris Curley >Doc. Mananger >The Info Group > > >__________________________________________________________ > >-> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- >*** Sponsorship & Advt. 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Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 21-Oct-1998 16:50:47-GMT,1968;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA01460 for ; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 10:50:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA01248; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 11:17:28 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 21 Oct 1998 11:07:54 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA00470; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 11:07:52 -0500 Message-ID: <362E0668.5A4C1946@primeline.com> Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 12:06:00 -0400 From: Thomas Tveidt Organization: Market Potential Mapping X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] PDF File Distribution Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== I would like to distribute a one page pdf file on disk to a group of clients who use a variety of operating systems. The intent is that they will each add the file to their websites. Granting that each has Reader 3.0, are there potential problems that I should be aware of? I need to keep it SIMPLE. Thanks. -- Thomas Tveidt MARKET POTENTIAL MAPPING PO Box 1602 Lake Junaluska NC 28745-1602 __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 21-Oct-1998 17:25:49-GMT,2565;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA02520 for ; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 11:25:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA03985; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 11:55:37 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 21 Oct 1998 11:53:24 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA03815; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 11:53:22 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: KEYCORP From: "Karen L Mibus" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <852566A4.005B8666.00@keybank.com> Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 12:49:32 -0400 Subject: [PDF] Forms Page Redraw Problems Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > When using the Forms Show/Hide feature, is there any way to > avoid the white > screen flash with ? Sometimes you can reduce it by defining a solid fill for the button even if that is theoretically unnecessary, the solid colour a closer match for the button in front. Aandi We are designing fields that display a thin, blue line box around the field during MouseEnter. We designed this so that users have a visual indication of a multiple choice answer they are about to make. Whenever the mouse cursor moves over the fields, there is a brief white flash. If the file is on a Web server, the page redraws as well. Each multiple choice answer includes a mouse up action that displays a pop-up alert window. When this window appears and disappears, the page redraws each time. This redraw only occurs when the PDF file is on the Windows NT Web server. Any ideas about why these things are happening and what we can do to fix these problems? --Karen __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 21-Oct-1998 17:31:47-GMT,3492;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA02691 for ; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 11:31:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA03654; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 11:50:57 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 21 Oct 1998 11:48:29 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA03471; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 11:48:28 -0500 Message-ID: <000e01bdfd13$9086c800$095247ce@newmicronpc> From: "Neal Anderson" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF File Distribution Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 10:54:52 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Thomas, If I understand you correctly, you already have the PDF file created. Probably using Acrobat. If ALL your clients plan to put the file on their web pages, why not just e-mail them the PDF file (attach it to an E-mail). Then, they would save it to their computer, then upload it to their server. They would link to the file by placing something like this on their web page: Click here to view catalog. Hope this helps. __________________________________________________________________ Neal Anderson http://www.vii.com/~neal (an hour a day, keeps the bill collector away) http://www.aros.net/~habitat (building homes for the working poor, a hand UP not a hand OUT) Act as if what you do makes a difference. It does. - William James __________________________________________________________________ -----Original Message----- From: Thomas Tveidt To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: Wednesday, October 21, 1998 10:29 AM Subject: [PDF] PDF File Distribution > >====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > >I would like to distribute a one page pdf file on disk >to a group of clients who use a variety of operating systems. >The intent is that they will each add the file to their websites. > >Granting that each has Reader 3.0, are there potential problems >that I should be aware of? I need to keep it SIMPLE. > >Thanks. > > >-- >Thomas Tveidt >MARKET POTENTIAL MAPPING >PO Box 1602 >Lake Junaluska NC 28745-1602 > > > >__________________________________________________________ > >-> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- >*** Sponsorship & Advt. 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Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 21-Oct-1998 18:50:20-GMT,2496;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA05022 for ; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 12:50:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA11945; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 13:26:34 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 21 Oct 1998 13:23:50 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA11656; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 13:23:47 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: KEYCORP From: "Karen L Mibus" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <852566A4.0064AB05.00@keybank.com> Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 14:19:52 -0400 Subject: [PDF] Forms Page Redraw Problems Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > When using the Forms Show/Hide feature, is there any way to > avoid the white > screen flash with ? Sometimes you can reduce it by defining a solid fill for the button even if that is theoretically unnecessary, the solid colour a closer match for the button in front. Aandi We are designing fields that display a thin, blue line box around the field during MouseEnter. We designed this so that users have a visual indication of a multiple choice answer they are about to make. Whenever the mouse cursor moves over the fields, there is a brief white flash. If the file is on a Web server, the page redraws as well. Each multiple choice answer includes a mouse up action that displays a pop-up alert window. When this window appears and disappears, the page redraws each time. This redraw only occurs when the PDF file is on the Windows NT Web server. Any ideas about why these things are happening and what we can do to fix these problems? --Karen __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 21-Oct-1998 19:59:20-GMT,2290;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA07024 for ; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 13:59:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA17520; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 14:39:27 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 21 Oct 1998 14:36:06 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA17188; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 14:36:04 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] PDF File Distribution Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 19:24:55 +0100 Message-ID: <000501bdfd29$c3ba60e0$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <362E0668.5A4C1946@primeline.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > I would like to distribute a one page pdf file on disk > to a group of clients who use a variety of operating systems. > The intent is that they will each add the file to their websites. Surely the simplest thing is to put it on YOUR web site and tell them? If they can't work out how to download it to their hard disk and put it in their site, they have no business running a site... Seriously, why use disk when everyone you target is on the internet. And don't be tempted to use e-mail either - it will create more problems than you'd like. Aandi __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 21-Oct-1998 3:44:30-GMT,2577;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA13620 for ; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 21:44:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA28245; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 22:25:29 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 20 Oct 1998 22:22:27 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA28055; Tue, 20 Oct 1998 22:22:25 -0500 From: "Chris Bill" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Acrobat ACE Study Guide Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 04:21:31 +0100 Message-ID: <000001bdfca1$e6089be0$34acfea9@ctbill> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <852566A2.005E94A7.00@keybank.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Karen, I to am very much interested in the Acrobat ACE Test. More information on this subject may be found at http://www.adobe.com/supportservice/training/aceprogram.html > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com [mailto:owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com]On > Behalf Of Karen L Mibus > Sent: 19 October 1998 18:14 > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: Re: [PDF] Acrobat ACE Study Guide > > > > ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > > > What is the Acrobat ACE test? > > --Karen > > > > __________________________________________________________ > > -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- > *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** > + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + > __________________________________________________________ > __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 21-Oct-1998 6:03:43-GMT,1754;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA16703 for ; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 00:03:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA02105; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 00:47:21 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 21 Oct 1998 00:44:27 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA01943; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 00:44:24 -0500 Message-ID: <009d01bdfcb5$ae94a820$220d9fcf@default> From: "Jim and Marguerite Ripley" To: Subject: [PDF] SHOW/HIDE Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 22:42:35 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2120.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2120.0 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== When using the Forms Show/Hide feature, is there any way to avoid the white screen flash with ? __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 21-Oct-1998 9:24:54-GMT,2019;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA20858 for ; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 03:24:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA10166; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 03:57:58 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 21 Oct 1998 03:55:15 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA10016; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 03:55:10 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] SHOW/HIDE Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 09:44:07 +0100 Message-ID: <000101bdfcd0$3b634300$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <009d01bdfcb5$ae94a820$220d9fcf@default> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > When using the Forms Show/Hide feature, is there any way to > avoid the white > screen flash with ? Sometimes you can reduce it by defining a solid fill for the button even if that is theoretically unnecessary, the solid colour a closer match for the button in front. Aandi __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 21-Oct-1998 21:22:55-GMT,1575;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA09290 for ; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 15:22:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA23587; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 16:00:13 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 21 Oct 1998 15:56:54 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA23224; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 15:56:52 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: KEYCORP From: "Karen L Mibus" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <852566A4.00712065.00@keybank.com> Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 16:36:58 -0400 Subject: [PDF] Increased file size? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Does anyone know whether blank pages increase the size of PDF files? --Karen __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 21-Oct-1998 23:02:54-GMT,1962;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA11802 for ; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 17:02:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA30483; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 17:39:02 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 21 Oct 1998 17:36:15 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA30311; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 17:36:14 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Increased file size? Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 22:34:07 +0100 Message-ID: <000501bdfd42$f264c0c0$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <852566A4.00712065.00@keybank.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Yes, but not by very much. The existence of the page, and its size, still have to be recorded. 50-300 bytes, perhaps, depending how the page is added. > Does anyone know whether blank pages increase the size of PDF files? Aandi __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 21-Oct-1998 23:30:57-GMT,2261;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA12575 for ; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 17:30:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA32684; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 18:15:34 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 21 Oct 1998 18:13:20 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA32534; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 18:13:18 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19981021191317.007c8100@spc.sugar-land.omnes.net> X-Sender: ziegler@spc.sugar-land.omnes.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 19:13:17 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Wolfgang Ziegler Subject: [PDF] Importing PDF into MSoffice apps In-Reply-To: <000101bdfcd0$3b634300$0101c6c0@gateway> References: <009d01bdfcb5$ae94a820$220d9fcf@default> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== >Hi, > >Is there a way to import/convert a PDF document directly into MS office >applications (PDF import filter?), without going through TIF export? >Presently I select graphics in a document (generated with PDFwriter, 600 >dpi, fonts embedded) with Exchange 3.01 - copy to clipboard - paste into >PowerPoint. The results are not the 600 dpi image and fonts do not get >rendered. Is this the way it is supposed to work for this method or am I >missing something? > >Thanks for your advice, > >Wolfgang Ziegler >Schlumberger-Doll Research __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 21-Oct-1998 23:40:39-GMT,2269;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA12848 for ; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 17:40:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA00576; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 18:26:16 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 21 Oct 1998 18:23:55 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA00412; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 18:23:54 -0500 Message-Id: From: "Callaway, Rebecca" To: "\"ayue@adobe.com\" , Dov Isaacs , "'Post to PDF listserve'" Subject: [PDF] PDF How to's: Excel and Capture Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 16:19:00 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.996.62 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Hi All - Was just playing with the PDFwriter add-in in Excel. It only does one worksheet at a time, and my *.xls file has about 15 worksheets in it. Is there a way to generate a complete PDF with PDFWriter? I'm using Excel for Office 97. I appear to have the correct *.xla file. And secondly, is it correct behavior in Capture (2.01) that all TIF images must be rotated "North-South" for OCR to take place? I have a document set that involves turn pages, and it's appearing to be necessary to use a TIF editor to Rotate the image before it is sent to PDF. Any help appreciated. Rebecca __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 22-Oct-1998 0:14:47-GMT,1837;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA13547 for ; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 18:14:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA02172; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 18:54:00 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 21 Oct 1998 18:51:18 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA02052; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 18:51:17 -0500 From: BADzign@aol.com Message-ID: <3687da4a.362e7340@aol.com> Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 19:50:24 EDT To: PDF@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: [PDF] CD'S AND PDF'S Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Mac sub 82 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Can someone tell me if it possible to write to a CD, putting Reader for Windows and Mac platforms on the CD, so a pdf could be viewed by anyone using either platform? I want to send a catalogue on CD's. Can the Reader be burned to the CD completely, rather than just the Reader installer, so the pdf can be viewed directly from the CD. Thank You __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 22-Oct-1998 8:35:15-GMT,2537;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA23974 for ; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 02:35:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA23893; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 03:05:22 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 22 Oct 1998 03:02:16 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA23691; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 03:02:10 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Importing PDF into MSoffice apps Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 08:57:07 +0100 Message-ID: <000a01bdfd92$010ca3a0$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19981021191317.007c8100@spc.sugar-land.omnes.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > > > >Is there a way to import/convert a PDF document directly > into MS office > >applications (PDF import filter?), without going through TIF export? > >Presently I select graphics in a document (generated with > PDFwriter, 600 > >dpi, fonts embedded) with Exchange 3.01 - copy to clipboard > - paste into > >PowerPoint. The results are not the 600 dpi image and fonts > do not get > >rendered. Is this the way it is supposed to work for this > method or am I > >missing something? What you are missing is that PDF is not intended as a graphical format. That's why trying to do this gives less than satisfactory results. Still, if you work exclusively with PostScript printers, you may get happier (and certainly smaller) results using EPS export. Aandi __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 22-Oct-1998 8:35:17-GMT,2225;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA23978 for ; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 02:35:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA23892; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 03:05:21 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 22 Oct 1998 03:02:18 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA23708; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 03:02:14 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] CD'S AND PDF'S Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 08:59:25 +0100 Message-ID: <000b01bdfd92$02426480$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <3687da4a.362e7340@aol.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > Can someone tell me if it possible to write to a CD, putting > Reader for > Windows and Mac platforms on the CD, so a pdf could be viewed > by anyone using > either platform? No, the Reader installer is all you can distribute. The Reader redistribution license is intended to forbid you from trying to include an executable version of the Reader. This subject has been done to death lately, so rather than repeating all the arguments, I'd like to refer people to the list archives instead. Aandi __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 22-Oct-1998 8:37:58-GMT,2398;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA24026 for ; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 02:37:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA24106; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 03:09:03 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 22 Oct 1998 03:06:54 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA23932; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 03:06:52 -0500 From: "Darryl Lucas (Solvera, Handforth, UK)" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] CD'S AND PDF'S Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 09:01:43 +0100 Message-ID: <000001bdfd92$3a250880$fc7175c1@win95> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== >BADzign@aol.com wrote: >Can someone tell me if it possible to write to a CD, putting Reader for >Windows and Mac platforms on the CD, so a pdf could be viewed by anyone using >either platform? >I want to send a catalogue on CD's. >Can the Reader be burned to the CD completely, rather than just the Reader >installer, so the pdf can be viewed directly from the CD. >Thank You My view is that although it's quite tricky to put all readers on the same CD you have to use a MAC to burn the CD-R. This process has been trashed-out many times over the last couple of years in this list. But does anyone have a definitive answer (Perhaps this topic should be on a FAQ for the list?) Darryl __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 22-Oct-1998 12:24:46-GMT,2872;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA28050 for ; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 06:24:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA00826; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 06:59:35 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 22 Oct 1998 06:56:31 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA00640; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 06:56:29 -0500 Message-ID: <362F2BD4.DF65E6CD@empa.ch> Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 13:57:57 +0100 From: Erwin Widmer Organization: EMPA X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: de-CH, en-US MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Importing PDF into MSoffice apps References: <009d01bdfcb5$ae94a820$220d9fcf@default> <3.0.5.32.19981021191317.007c8100@spc.sugar-land.omnes.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Wolfgang, There are tools to do what you want to do. Go to the following site to find out more about: http://www.bcl-computers.com Erwin Wolfgang Ziegler wrote: > ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > > >Hi, > > > >Is there a way to import/convert a PDF document directly into MS office > >applications (PDF import filter?), without going through TIF export? > >Presently I select graphics in a document (generated with PDFwriter, 600 > >dpi, fonts embedded) with Exchange 3.01 - copy to clipboard - paste into > >PowerPoint. The results are not the 600 dpi image and fonts do not get > >rendered. Is this the way it is supposed to work for this method or am I > >missing something? > > > >Thanks for your advice, > > > >Wolfgang Ziegler > >Schlumberger-Doll Research > > __________________________________________________________ > > -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- > *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** > + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + > __________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 22-Oct-1998 12:34:39-GMT,1706;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA28271 for ; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 06:34:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA01661; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 07:14:06 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 22 Oct 1998 07:10:37 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA01476; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 07:10:35 -0500 Message-ID: <362F236E.D0911816@earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 07:22:08 -0500 From: Scottie X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] JavaScripts References: <000a01bdfd92$010ca3a0$0101c6c0@gateway> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Does anybody have a list of javascripts that work exclusively with Acrobat? Scottie __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 22-Oct-1998 12:35:59-GMT,3008;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA28303 for ; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 06:35:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA01552; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 07:12:23 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 22 Oct 1998 07:08:47 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA01326; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 07:08:45 -0500 Message-ID: <362F22FB.DB1CE40E@earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 07:20:13 -0500 From: Scottie X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Importing PDF into MSoffice apps References: <009d01bdfcb5$ae94a820$220d9fcf@default> <3.0.5.32.19981021191317.007c8100@spc.sugar-land.omnes.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== When you simply copy a graphics from a PDF document, you're only getting a screen shot. Try exporting as an eps file or postscript file. This exporting is uder the file menu of Acrobat. I then open these exports in Illustrator for further editing. You may not have to edit and import directly into your document. Scottie Wolfgang Ziegler wrote: > ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > > >Hi, > > > >Is there a way to import/convert a PDF document directly into MS office > >applications (PDF import filter?), without going through TIF export? > >Presently I select graphics in a document (generated with PDFwriter, 600 > >dpi, fonts embedded) with Exchange 3.01 - copy to clipboard - paste into > >PowerPoint. The results are not the 600 dpi image and fonts do not get > >rendered. Is this the way it is supposed to work for this method or am I > >missing something? > > > >Thanks for your advice, > > > >Wolfgang Ziegler > >Schlumberger-Doll Research > > __________________________________________________________ > > -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- > *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** > + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + > __________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 22-Oct-1998 12:46:01-GMT,2432;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA28476 for ; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 06:46:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA02418; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 07:25:45 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 22 Oct 1998 07:22:10 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA02189; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 07:22:09 -0500 From: csnyder@mcgraw-hill.com Message-Id: <199810221222.AA07610@interlock.mgh.com> X-Mailer: ccMail Link to SMTP R8.20.00.25 Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 08:10:41 -0500 To: Subject: Re: [PDF] pdf consultant Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: "cc:Mail Note Part" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== How about the Michigan area? corbin snyder csnyder@mcgraw-hill.com ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: [PDF] pdf consultant Author: at ccnode Date: 10/22/98 8:09 AM ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== I am having trouble finding a PDF/Postscript/Quark consultant in the NY area. Does anyone have any thoughts? Thanks! - Kelly Modzelewski __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 22-Oct-1998 13:18:41-GMT,1984;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA29158 for ; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 07:18:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA03745; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 07:50:04 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 22 Oct 1998 07:47:47 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA03590; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 07:47:46 -0500 Message-ID: <01BDFD98.AE48B9E0@c208-213-155-99.kivex.com> From: Dae-Hee Lee To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Is NYPPUG still around? Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 08:48:02 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id HAA03586 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Does anybody know whether the New York Professional Postscript Users Group (NYPPUG) is still in existence? If so, could someone direct me to their website or provide me with a contact address? Thanks. P.S. They used to discuss Acrobat, Postscript, Prepress, etc. in the past. I've moved out of the New York area, and do not know whether they still exist. __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 22-Oct-1998 13:19:50-GMT,1960;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA29193 for ; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 07:19:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA04061; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 07:55:33 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 22 Oct 1998 07:53:21 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA03906; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 07:53:20 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: KEYCORP From: "Karen L Mibus" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <852566A5.00465271.00@keybank.com> Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 08:50:16 -0400 Subject: RE: [PDF] Increased file size? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Aandi: Thank you very much for your quick and descriptive response! I needed a quick answer to share with my boss, but in the near future I will also be testing the affect of blank pages on PDF file sizes. --Karen Aandi wrote: Yes, but not by very much. The existence of the page, and its size, still have to be recorded. 50-300 bytes, perhaps, depending how the page is added. > Does anyone know whether blank pages increase the size of PDF files? Aandi __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 22-Oct-1998 13:40:14-GMT,1883;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA29596 for ; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 07:40:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA05060; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 08:11:19 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 22 Oct 1998 08:08:44 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA04900; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 08:08:41 -0500 X-Sender: mwalker@popa.ifb.co.uk Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 14:15:15 +0100 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: euroburo Subject: [PDF] adobe PDF business visions uk Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== hi did anyone from the UK attend any of the Adobe Business visions PDF/Print & publishing seminars? i would be interested to know any comments. i attended the Edinburgh two day event and unfortunately had to sit through rather a lot of sales talk rather than real content. I don't know how many times the basic features of acrobat and PM 6.5 were discussed. cheers marc __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 22-Oct-1998 14:31:06-GMT,2207;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA00779 for ; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 08:31:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA08183; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 08:59:53 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 22 Oct 1998 08:57:22 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA07976; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 08:57:20 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19981022100709.009124f0@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 10:07:09 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] CD'S AND PDF'S In-Reply-To: <3687da4a.362e7340@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== >Can someone tell me if it possible to write to a CD, putting Reader for >Windows and Mac platforms on the CD, so a pdf could be viewed by anyone using >either platform? The Reader installer, yes. If you have the full Acrobat package, you'll have received just such a CD. >I want to send a catalogue on CD's. >Can the Reader be burned to the CD completely, rather than just the Reader >installer, so the pdf can be viewed directly from the CD. >Thank You Not without getting Adobe's lawyers all stirred up. It's contrary to your license agreement. Steve Rindsberg/Prez RDP http://www.rdpslides.com __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 22-Oct-1998 17:21:24-GMT,3530;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA05300 for ; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 11:21:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA17653; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 11:22:08 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 22 Oct 1998 11:16:18 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA17084; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 11:16:17 -0500 Message-ID: <85D2D0E1FE66D21199FB00104B1F95D5014222@mail.document-solutions.com> From: Duff Johnson To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] PDF How to's: Excel and Capture Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 09:19:55 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01BDFDD7.D1B7CED0" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01BDFDD7.D1B7CED0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > And secondly, is it correct behavior in Capture (2.01) that all TIF > images must be rotated "North-South" for OCR to take place? I have a > document set that involves turn pages, and it's appearing to be > necessary to use a TIF editor to Rotate the image before it is sent to > PDF. That is definately the way to go. Capture's ability to detect and correct orientation is unreliable at best. Duff Johnson President, Document Solutions, Inc. ------_=_NextPart_001_01BDFDD7.D1B7CED0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: [PDF] PDF How to's: Excel and Capture

> And secondly, is it correct behavior in Capture = (2.01) that all TIF
> images must be rotated "North-South" = for OCR to take place?  I have a
> document set that involves turn pages, and it's = appearing to be
> necessary to use a TIF editor to Rotate the = image before it is sent to
> PDF.

That is definately the way to go.  Capture's = ability to detect and correct orientation is unreliable at best.  =

Duff Johnson
President, Document Solutions, Inc.

------_=_NextPart_001_01BDFDD7.D1B7CED0-- __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 22-Oct-1998 19:07:45-GMT,2627;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA08087 for ; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 13:07:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA27665; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 13:39:55 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 22 Oct 1998 13:37:11 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA27361; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 13:37:08 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19981022143508.00832570@spc.sugar-land.omnes.net> X-Sender: ziegler@spc.sugar-land.omnes.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 14:35:08 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Wolfgang Ziegler Subject: RE: [PDF] Importing PDF into MSoffice apps In-Reply-To: <000a01bdfd92$010ca3a0$0101c6c0@gateway> References: <3.0.5.32.19981021191317.007c8100@spc.sugar-land.omnes.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Hi again, thanks for the responses, unfortunately none of the seem to help me ... Maybe I should have been more specific: We keep our documents (text and graphics) in PDF, on request they need to be imported to WORD for distribution and PowerPoint for presentations, preferably without loss of quality from the original PDF, on different platforms. > Still, if you work exclusively with PostScript >printers, you may get happier (and certainly smaller) results using >EPS export. we work with PS printers only, to my knowledge there is no option to export to EPS on PC. Also I was looking for an option without intermediate file generation, that's why utilities like Jade and Freebird didn't appeal. >When you simply copy a graphics from a PDF document, you're only getting a >screen shot. That's what I am using for the PowerPoint presentations. Thanks, Wolfgang Ziegler __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 22-Oct-1998 19:19:36-GMT,1836;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA08449 for ; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 13:19:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA30241; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 14:05:23 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 22 Oct 1998 14:02:51 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA29935; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 14:02:50 -0500 X-ROUTED: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 15:02:54 -0500 X-TCP-IDENTITY: Tonymck Message-ID: <01BDFDCD.12732160@s72.onix.com> From: Tony McKinley To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] RE: PDF Consultant Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 15:03:04 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id OAA29930 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== You could try calling the Adobe office in New York. They have this guy there named Gary Cosimini who seems to know a thing or two about Postscript and PDF. ;> __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 22-Oct-1998 19:49:13-GMT,2573;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA09226 for ; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 13:49:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA31806; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 14:24:42 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 22 Oct 1998 14:22:19 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA31551; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 14:22:17 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Importing PDF into MSoffice apps Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 20:17:35 +0100 Message-ID: <000d01bdfdf1$04588e20$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19981022143508.00832570@spc.sugar-land.omnes.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > > Still, if you work exclusively with PostScript > >printers, you may get happier (and certainly smaller) results using > >EPS export. > > we work with PS printers only, to my knowledge there is no > option to export > to EPS on PC. Also I was looking for an option without > intermediate file > generation, that's why utilities like Jade and Freebird > didn't appeal. There is now, you can download it. > > >When you simply copy a graphics from a PDF document, you're > only getting a > >screen shot. > > That's what I am using for the PowerPoint presentations. Definitely not ideal - and I'd really question the choice of PDF for something you later want to work with in this way; but if you must, try zooming in AFTER selecting the image and BEFORE copying, to increase the resolution. Aandi __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 22-Oct-1998 20:05:33-GMT,2469;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA09766 for ; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 14:05:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA00168; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 14:40:30 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 22 Oct 1998 14:37:59 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA32651; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 14:37:58 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19981022154754.008f1100@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 15:47:54 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: RE: [PDF] Importing PDF into MSoffice apps In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19981022143508.00832570@spc.sugar-land.omnes.net> References: <000a01bdfd92$010ca3a0$0101c6c0@gateway> <3.0.5.32.19981021191317.007c8100@spc.sugar-land.omnes.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > >thanks for the responses, unfortunately none of the seem to help me ... >Maybe I should have been more specific: We keep our documents (text and >graphics) in PDF, on request they need to be imported to WORD for >distribution and PowerPoint for presentations, In which case maintaining your archive in PDF is not the best strategy. You probably need to use PDF as one of several distribution formats, but maintain your source materials in some other format(s). >we work with PS printers only, to my knowledge there is no option to export >to EPS on PC. You may not have the Export EPS/PS plug-in ... it's freely available from Adobe, however. Steve Rindsberg/Prez RDP http://www.rdpslides.com __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 22-Oct-1998 20:11:00-GMT,4137;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA09901 for ; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 14:10:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA01102; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 14:51:32 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 22 Oct 1998 14:49:14 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA00889; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 14:49:13 -0500 Message-Id: <9810229090.AA909085857@pens3646.cnet.navy.mil> X-Mailer: ccMail Link to SMTP R8.20.00.25 Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 14:43:20 -0600 From: "DEAN MCCALLUM" To: Subject: Re[2]: [PDF] Importing PDF into MSoffice apps Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: "cc:Mail Note Part" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Hi: While I'm really new at this (this is my first attempt to input anything to the group) I found a way to export graphics from PDF to both Powerpoint and Word 97 and maintain dpi quality. I use BCL-Computers "PDForte," a plug-in for Exchange 3.01, to capture and extract graphics into both MS programs. For the graphics, Forte allows you to specify the dpi you need. (This assumes that your PDF file has retained the original 300 dpi information from a distilled PS file, Capture PDFs may be out of luck.) I suspect that the text could also be extracted using PDForte, since it has that capability. You will have to do some Word 97 formatting to make it look like the original PDF pages. I hope I haven't exposed too much of my naivete on this PDF issue. Dean McCallum N314 Branch Head, Navy Education & Training Professional Development and Technology Center ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: RE: [PDF] Importing PDF into MSoffice apps Author: at internet Date: 10/22/98 2:35 PM ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Hi again, thanks for the responses, unfortunately none of the seem to help me ... Maybe I should have been more specific: We keep our documents (text and graphics) in PDF, on request they need to be imported to WORD for distribution and PowerPoint for presentations, preferably without loss of quality from the original PDF, on different platforms. > Still, if you work exclusively with PostScript >printers, you may get happier (and certainly smaller) results using >EPS export. we work with PS printers only, to my knowledge there is no option to export to EPS on PC. Also I was looking for an option without intermediate file generation, that's why utilities like Jade and Freebird didn't appeal. >When you simply copy a graphics from a PDF document, you're only getting a >screen shot. That's what I am using for the PowerPoint presentations. Thanks, Wolfgang Ziegler __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. 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Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 23-Oct-1998 4:52:08-GMT,3393;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA21859 for ; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 22:52:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA28056; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 23:33:38 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 22 Oct 1998 23:30:29 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA27887; Thu, 22 Oct 1998 23:30:28 -0500 Message-ID: <363006C9.B8B10620@kiwi.futuris.net> Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 00:32:09 -0400 From: "Robert E. Moran" Organization: Digital Constructs Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] pdf consultant References: <199810221222.AA07610@interlock.mgh.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id XAA27883 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== I know quite a bit about Quark & PDF. What do you need to know? Check out the DC site to see what we do. Info is down at the bottom of the e-mail. Bob Moran csnyder@mcgraw-hill.com wrote: > ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > > How about the Michigan area? > > corbin snyder > csnyder@mcgraw-hill.com > > ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ > Subject: [PDF] pdf consultant > Author: at ccnode > Date: 10/22/98 8:09 AM > > > ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > > > I am having trouble finding a PDF/Postscript/Quark consultant in the > NY area. Does anyone have any thoughts? > > Thanks! > > - Kelly Modzelewski > > > > __________________________________________________________ > > -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- > *** Sponsorship & Advt. 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Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 23-Oct-1998 13:13:08-GMT,2301;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA02220 for ; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 07:13:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA17217; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 07:48:09 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 23 Oct 1998 07:44:30 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA16969; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 07:44:28 -0500 Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 13:43:16 +0100 (BST) From: Ann Apps Message-Id: <199810231243.NAA21381@cs6400.mcc.ac.uk> To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] adobe PDF business visions uk X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > > did anyone from the UK attend any of the Adobe Business visions PDF/Print & > publishing seminars? > I didn't attend one of these, but I have been to previous ones about Acrobat. Like your experience, Marc, there was a lot of sales talk, corporate vidoes, fancy graphics. (A talk on Action Man packaging was interesting though!) There seemed to be little knowledge available about use of Acrobat over the web which is our main use, and where we had problems. Ann -------------------------------------------------------------------- Mrs. Ann Apps. Manchester Computing, University of Manchester, Oxford Road, Manchester, M13 9PL, UK. Tel: +44 (0) 161 275 6039 Fax: +44 (0) 161 275 6040 Email: Ann.Apps@mcc.ac.uk WWW: http://www.superjournal.ac.uk/sj/ -------------------------------------------------------------------- __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 23-Oct-1998 16:39:45-GMT,3147;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA07579 for ; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 10:39:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA30802; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 11:13:07 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 23 Oct 1998 11:09:49 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA30606; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 11:09:47 -0500 From: "Chris Bill" To: Subject: [PDF] PDF files over 4Mb do not open in a web browser Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 17:09:09 +0100 Message-ID: <000001bdfe9f$77dbf180$84a8fea9@ctbill> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <199810231243.NAA21381@cs6400.mcc.ac.uk> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Has anyone experienced this problem before...? Optimized (or unoptimized) PDF files over only 4Mb or greater will not open in an internet browser via the Acrobat plug-in (Netscape 4 or Internet Explorer 4.01)when activated from a link on an html page that is resident on a local drive or CD. The same 4Mb or greater file(s) will open when accessed via the same html file and link if resident on a http server. The files do open directly in Reader or Exchange as expected. The symptoms of the fault appear as the now well known 'white screen of death'. ie, The browser displays only a white area where the pdf file would normally be displayed. This has been cured in the past by the Adobe Active-X fix (now built in to Acrobat Reader 3.02), but it does not appear to work on files greater than 4Mb. I have tried to ascertain whether or not it is PDF files that are possibly corrupt by opening them in Acrobat Exchange and gradually deleting pages and saving. The file will not be displayed in a browser window until the file size drops below 4Mb. I need to know how to work around this problem so that subsections of our intranet which contains html pages of links to PDF documents may be transferred to CD-ROM. I do not want to break my PDF files down in to smaller chunks as this would prevent internal pdf links from being created automatically. Thank you in advance Chris Bill __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 23-Oct-1998 18:18:12-GMT,4059;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA10437 for ; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 12:18:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA06640; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 12:58:01 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 23 Oct 1998 12:53:54 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA06260; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 12:53:52 -0500 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19981023175305.00d92f70@env-sol.com> X-Sender: thiersch@env-sol.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 10:53:05 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Tom Thiersch Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF files over 4Mb do not open in a web browser Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Chris Bill, I've been able to recreate your problem, repeatably. The bug appears to be caused by the Adobe browser plug-in's inability to read local files > 4MB. I've tested this with MS IE 4.01, under Win NT 4, using the current Acrobat OCX. My test case (using unaltered PDFs that I happened to have handy): 4,024,918 bytes (3931KB) : works! 4,188,769 bytes (4091KB) : fails (white screen, as described) Oddly, 4MB = 1024 x 1024 x 4 = 4,194,304 So, the file size that fails is actually just short of 4MB. I don't think this is due to any file corruption; it's a bug for the Acrobat engineers. One workaround might be to convert all of your HTML pages to PDF. You'll have to create all of the cross-document links again, of course. But this eliminates the browser and plug-in from the picture entirely. i.e., it's a pure PDF, no HTML, solution. Let us know if you get any response from Adobe about this bug! Tom Thiersch At 05:09 PM 10/23/98 +0100, you wrote: > >====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > >Has anyone experienced this problem before...? > >Optimized (or unoptimized) PDF files over only 4Mb or greater will not open >in an internet browser via the Acrobat plug-in (Netscape 4 or Internet >Explorer 4.01)when activated from a link on an html page that is resident on >a local drive or CD. The same 4Mb or greater file(s) will open when >accessed via the same html file and link if resident on a http server. The >files do open directly in Reader or Exchange as expected. >The symptoms of the fault appear as the now well known 'white screen of >death'. ie, The browser displays only a white area where the pdf file would >normally be displayed. This has been cured in the past by the Adobe >Active-X fix (now built in to Acrobat Reader 3.02), but it does not appear >to work on files greater than 4Mb. >I have tried to ascertain whether or not it is PDF files that are possibly >corrupt by opening them in Acrobat Exchange and gradually deleting pages and >saving. The file will not be displayed in a browser window until the file >size drops below 4Mb. > >I need to know how to work around this problem so that subsections of our >intranet which contains html pages of links to PDF documents may be >transferred to CD-ROM. > >I do not want to break my PDF files down in to smaller chunks as this would >prevent internal pdf links from being created automatically. > >Thank you in advance > >Chris Bill > > > __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 23-Oct-1998 22:34:59-GMT,6054;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA17211 for ; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 16:34:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA27792; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 17:09:14 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 23 Oct 1998 17:06:04 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA27212; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 17:06:02 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: kfoss@mailbag.com Message-Id: Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 17:04:29 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Kurt Foss Subject: [PDF] FYI> PDF Showcase for week of Oct. 19-23 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== _________________________________________ Weekly Table of Contents for the daily "PDF Showcase" feature from PDFzone.COM __________________________________________ PDF Showcase spotlights uses and users of the portable document format, such as this week's selections: * Monday, Oct. 19 -- "The Games We Play" --------------------- http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/showcase/spammers-game.html Anyone who's been online for more than 15 minutes almost certainly has been 'spammed' -- received unsolicited bulk email. 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Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 23-Oct-1998 23:46:45-GMT,1850;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA18757 for ; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 17:46:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA07700; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 18:31:11 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 23 Oct 1998 18:28:40 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA07225; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 18:28:38 -0500 Message-ID: <3631109C.84EF1560@glyphica.com> Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 16:26:21 -0700 From: Margret Meyer Organization: Glyphica X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.07 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] font embedding References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Does anybody know how to force fonts to embed in a document. We have a file that has been distilled, but some fonts show up as dots on NT machines (they show up as subsets). Redistilling does not work. Any suggestions? Thank you. Margret Meyer Glyphica __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 24-Oct-1998 0:28:08-GMT,2556;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA19639 for ; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 18:28:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA13798; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 19:08:35 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 23 Oct 1998 19:06:13 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA13390; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 19:06:11 -0500 Message-ID: <01BDFEC0.6C119730.masonc@anguillanet.com> From: Chris Mason To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] font embedding Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 19:59:43 -0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Are you using the Adobe 5 PS driver? Are you using TT fonts? Try installing another PS driver. Chris On Friday, October 23, 1998 7:26 PM, Margret Meyer [SMTP:margret@glyphica.com] wrote: > > ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > > Does anybody know how to force fonts to embed in a document. We have a file that > has been distilled, but some fonts show up as dots on NT machines (they show up > as subsets). Redistilling does not work. Any suggestions? > Thank you. > > Margret Meyer > Glyphica > > > __________________________________________________________ > > -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- > *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** > + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + > __________________________________________________________ > Chris Mason Box 340, The Valley, Anguilla, British West Indies http://net.ai Tel: 264 497 5670 Fax: 264 497 8463 IKVGwx __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 24-Oct-1998 2:08:59-GMT,1899;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA21507 for ; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 20:08:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA20815; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 20:55:13 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 23 Oct 1998 20:52:31 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA20621; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 20:52:27 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19981023215108.007b2700@up.bresnan.net> X-Sender: fosmire@up.bresnan.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 21:51:08 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: "M. Sean Fosmire" Subject: [PDF] Scan to Acrobat and OCR Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Assume that one wishes to create both editable text and PDF files from paper documents. One way is to scan to TIFs and then do both operations from the TIFs. Is there any disadvantage (WRT to the quality of the PDF files) to creating TIFs and then importing them into Acrobat Exchange, vs. scanning directly to Acrobat? __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 24-Oct-1998 2:08:59-GMT,1905;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA21505 for ; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 20:08:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA20814; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 20:55:12 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 23 Oct 1998 20:52:29 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA20606; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 20:52:26 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19981023215249.007ed450@up.bresnan.net> X-Sender: fosmire@up.bresnan.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 21:52:49 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: "M. Sean Fosmire" Subject: [PDF] Entering text into Notes Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== When using the post-it-like Note tool, I find that I cannot enter spaces and cannot delete letters using the Backspace key. I can enter spaces using Ctrl-space and I can use the left arrow and then hit Delete, but this is very cumbersome. This has happened on three computers I'm using, running Exchange. Anyone know why? __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 24-Oct-1998 2:31:42-GMT,2577;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA21897 for ; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 20:31:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA22082; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 21:22:09 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 23 Oct 1998 21:19:45 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA21928; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 21:19:43 -0500 X-ROUTED: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 22:20:02 -0500 X-TCP-IDENTITY: Tonymck Message-ID: <01BDFED3.464196A0@s72.onix.com> From: Tony McKinley To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] RE: PDF files over 4Mb do not open in a web browser Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 22:19:59 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id VAA21923 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Why do we keep seeing this post? I suspect it's because we are not recognizing what is browser behavior and what is file/server behavior. I've been serving up the big version of my PDF book as a 4.2 Mb file for a couple of years now at http://imagebiz.com. If you click on the big GIF image map cover of the book, you get the whole thing (optimized and byteserved). That includes 5,500 Links from TOC and Index, Web Links, Bookmarks and everything else you'd expect. Including Verity's SearchPDF if you tap that part of the imagemap. I've tried to bring this up before. It's a browser/PlugIn issue. Netscape works, the other one doesn't. No duh. The Acrobat file itself, and the Web Server, work like a charm. I would ask readers of this list to please distinguish between browser/server issues and the actual functionality of PDF. My 2 cents. Tony McKinley __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 24-Oct-1998 5:09:51-GMT,2424;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA24745 for ; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 23:09:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA28271; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 23:52:38 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 23 Oct 1998 23:49:49 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA28093; Fri, 23 Oct 1998 23:49:47 -0500 Date: 24 Oct 98 06:54:18 +0000 From: Richard Lauterkranz Subject: [PDF] One PIXEL line?? To: "pdf@lists.pdfzone.com" X-Mailer: QuickMail Pro 1.5 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-Ascii" Message-Id: Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Hello here are two questions: We are producing a newspaper and use PDF to transport our komplete Pages to our 30 km far imagesetter over the internet. Here we image them out of Exchange using Crackerjack on a agfa selectset 7000 with taipan RIP.. This is a perfect workflow but we have two problems that seem to result from distiller: 1. Distilling High Resolution 1 BIT Images (without downsampling, but CCITT G. 4 Compression) results in perfekt output, except that there is a 1 or two PIXEL-Line at one edge of the image. 2. Distilling 1200 dpi 1 BIT Image larger than DIN A 3 ( no downsampling, CCITT G. 4 compression) results in garbage outside the A3 Format. (Inside A3 = OK) Putting the whole page together by placing the same image 2times in two Quarkboxes works well!!! Is there a PIXEL-Line-Length limit i do not know about. Any Idea Richard __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 24-Oct-1998 10:23:32-GMT,3975;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA00452 for ; Sat, 24 Oct 1998 04:23:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA07710; Sat, 24 Oct 1998 05:08:02 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 24 Oct 1998 05:06:33 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA07591; Sat, 24 Oct 1998 05:06:29 -0500 From: "Chris Bill" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] RE: PDF files over 4Mb do not open in a web browser Date: Sat, 24 Oct 1998 11:05:44 +0100 Message-ID: <000001bdff35$dd392020$b7f8fea9@ctbill> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <01BDFED3.464196A0@s72.onix.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Tony, You don't keep seeing THIS post... As I explained in my first message, Quote,'when activated from a link on an html page that is resident on a local drive or CD.'i.e NOT the web, a PDF over 4Mb will not be displayed in the browser window. As you correctly say, when opening a PDF over the web via http it works great. I need to use a subset of our intranet that is served to my internal customers via http, but when I transfer my intranet to a CD, files over 4Mb will not display. My two pence. Chris Bill. PS. I fully concurr with Adobe on this one. It must be a bug in Acrobat 3.xx as it happens in both Netscape and Internet Explorer. > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com [mailto:owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com]On > Behalf Of Tony McKinley > Sent: 24 October 1998 03:20 > To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' > Subject: [PDF] RE: PDF files over 4Mb do not open in a web browser > > > > ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > > Why do we keep seeing this post? > > I suspect it's because we are not recognizing what is browser > behavior and what is file/server behavior. > > I've been serving up the big version of my PDF book as a 4.2 Mb > file for a couple of years now at http://imagebiz.com. If you > click on the big GIF image map cover of the book, you get the > whole thing (optimized and byteserved). That includes 5,500 Links > from TOC and Index, Web Links, Bookmarks and everything else > you'd expect. Including Verity's SearchPDF if you tap that part > of the imagemap. > > I've tried to bring this up before. It's a browser/PlugIn issue. > Netscape works, the other one doesn't. No duh. > > The Acrobat file itself, and the Web Server, work like a charm. > > I would ask readers of this list to please distinguish between > browser/server issues and the actual functionality of PDF. > > My 2 cents. > > Tony McKinley > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________ > > -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- > *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** > + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + > __________________________________________________________ > __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 24-Oct-1998 10:23:33-GMT,5401;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA00454 for ; Sat, 24 Oct 1998 04:23:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA07709; Sat, 24 Oct 1998 05:08:02 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 24 Oct 1998 05:06:35 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA07607; Sat, 24 Oct 1998 05:06:31 -0500 From: "Chris Bill" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] PDF files over 4Mb do not open in a web browser Date: Sat, 24 Oct 1998 11:05:46 +0100 Message-ID: <000101bdff35$deaa6360$b7f8fea9@ctbill> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <2.2.32.19981023175305.00d92f70@env-sol.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Thank you Tom Thiersch, Your suggested work around would completely provide one solution. Unfortunately, this would not be a practical alternative to us in this situation. We have just moved over to the html/pdf system to get away from having to produce menu pages in pdf. If Adobe could release some sort of interim fix before the next release, it would be just great. > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com [mailto:owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com]On > Behalf Of Tom Thiersch > Sent: 23 October 1998 18:53 > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF files over 4Mb do not open in a web browser > > > > ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > > Chris Bill, > > I've been able to recreate your problem, repeatably. > > The bug appears to be caused by the Adobe browser plug-in's inability to > read local files > 4MB. I've tested this with MS IE 4.01, under Win NT 4, > using the current Acrobat OCX. > > My test case (using unaltered PDFs that I happened to have handy): > > 4,024,918 bytes (3931KB) : works! > 4,188,769 bytes (4091KB) : fails (white screen, as described) > > Oddly, 4MB = 1024 x 1024 x 4 = 4,194,304 > > So, the file size that fails is actually just short of 4MB. > > I don't think this is due to any file corruption; it's a bug for > the Acrobat > engineers. > > One workaround might be to convert all of your HTML pages to PDF. You'll > have to create all of the cross-document links again, of course. But this > eliminates the browser and plug-in from the picture entirely. > i.e., it's a > pure PDF, no HTML, solution. > > Let us know if you get any response from Adobe about this bug! > > Tom Thiersch > > > > At 05:09 PM 10/23/98 +0100, you wrote: > > > >====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > > > >Has anyone experienced this problem before...? > > > >Optimized (or unoptimized) PDF files over only 4Mb or greater > will not open > >in an internet browser via the Acrobat plug-in (Netscape 4 or Internet > >Explorer 4.01)when activated from a link on an html page that is > resident on > >a local drive or CD. The same 4Mb or greater file(s) will open when > >accessed via the same html file and link if resident on a http > server. The > >files do open directly in Reader or Exchange as expected. > >The symptoms of the fault appear as the now well known 'white screen of > >death'. ie, The browser displays only a white area where the pdf > file would > >normally be displayed. This has been cured in the past by the Adobe > >Active-X fix (now built in to Acrobat Reader 3.02), but it does > not appear > >to work on files greater than 4Mb. > >I have tried to ascertain whether or not it is PDF files that > are possibly > >corrupt by opening them in Acrobat Exchange and gradually > deleting pages and > >saving. The file will not be displayed in a browser window until the file > >size drops below 4Mb. > > > >I need to know how to work around this problem so that subsections of our > >intranet which contains html pages of links to PDF documents may be > >transferred to CD-ROM. > > > >I do not want to break my PDF files down in to smaller chunks as > this would > >prevent internal pdf links from being created automatically. > > > >Thank you in advance > > > >Chris Bill > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________ > > -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- > *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** > + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + > __________________________________________________________ > __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 24-Oct-1998 12:38:51-GMT,2316;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA02667 for ; Sat, 24 Oct 1998 06:38:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA13241; Sat, 24 Oct 1998 07:26:19 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 24 Oct 1998 07:24:59 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA13141; Sat, 24 Oct 1998 07:24:57 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Scan to Acrobat and OCR Date: Sat, 24 Oct 1998 09:20:08 +0100 Message-ID: <000001bdff49$0ae64300$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19981023215108.007b2700@up.bresnan.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > Assume that one wishes to create both editable text and PDF files from > paper documents. One way is to scan to TIFs and then do both > operations > from the TIFs. Is there any disadvantage (WRT to the quality > of the PDF > files) to creating TIFs and then importing them into Acrobat > Exchange, vs. > scanning directly to Acrobat? No that should be fine. Scanning direct to Exchange is, in any case, a last resort. Scanning to Photoshop, or whatever, is much better because you can check, correct and adjust the scan before importing to Exchange. Aandi __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 24-Oct-1998 12:55:24-GMT,2796;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA02913 for ; Sat, 24 Oct 1998 06:55:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA13966; Sat, 24 Oct 1998 07:40:17 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 24 Oct 1998 07:39:13 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA13872; Sat, 24 Oct 1998 07:39:12 -0500 Date: Sat, 24 Oct 1998 08:38:23 -0400 From: olaf druemmer Subject: Re: [PDF] One PIXEL line?? To: PDF listserver Message-ID: <199810240839_MC2-5DEA-92B@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id HAA13868 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > >2. Distilling 1200 dpi 1 BIT Image larger than DIN A 3 ( no downsampling, >CCITT G. 4 compression) results in garbage outside the A3 Format. (Inside >A3 = OK) >Putting the whole page together by placing the same image 2times in two >Quarkboxes works well!!! >Is there a PIXEL-Line-Length limit i do not know about. There was a size problem with Distiller 3.0./3.01 - did you try with Distiller 3.02? Also, in Distiller 3.01/3.0 the problem tended to go away if resolution in Distiller Job options was set to a lower value. Olaf Druemmer ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Olaf Druemmer ------------------------------------------------------------------------- callas software gmbh Tel +49.30.44390310 Leonardo +49.30.44390311 Pappelallee 9 Fax +49.30.4416402 connect.pdf +49.30.44342391 D 10437 Berlin callas@compuserve.com http://www.callas.de ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Download 'White Paper PDF for Prepress': http://www.callas.de/pdf_wp.pdf ------------------------------------------------------------------------- __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 24-Oct-1998 21:34:04-GMT,2206;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA12333 for ; Sat, 24 Oct 1998 15:33:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA07048; Sat, 24 Oct 1998 16:11:31 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 24 Oct 1998 16:05:45 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA06753; Sat, 24 Oct 1998 16:05:43 -0500 Date: Sat, 24 Oct 1998 17:04:11 -0400 From: Michael Vorel Subject: RE: [PDF] CD'S AND PDF'S To: "INTERNET:pdf@lists.pdfzone.com" Message-ID: <199810241704_MC2-5DEC-FBD2@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id QAA06747 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Message text written by INTERNET:pdf@lists.pdfzone.com >My view is that although it's quite tricky to put all readers on the same CD you have to use a MAC to burn the CD-R. This process has been trashed-out many times over the last couple of years in this list. But does anyone have a definitive answer (Perhaps this topic should be on a FAQ for the list?) Darryl< I burn many CD's for internal distribution and have no problems servicing both Microsoft and Mac clients. What software are you using? And what format are you mastering to? michael __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. 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Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------ =_NextPart_001_01BE00C8.6B7547E0 Content-Type: text/plain > -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- > Fra: Margret Meyer [SMTP:margret@glyphica.com] > Sendt: Saturday, October 24, 1998 1:26 AM > Til: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Emne: [PDF] font embedding > > > ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > > Does anybody know how to force fonts to embed in a document. We have a > file that > has been distilled, but some fonts show up as dots on NT machines > (they show up > as subsets). Redistilling does not work. Any suggestions? > Thank you. > > Margret Meyer > Glyphica > > Hi Margret, > > Under the macro Distiller you have job options. There you have font > embedding. You have to install your fonts before distilling. > > Regards, > Henrik L. > DES > __________________________________________________________ > > -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- > *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** > + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + > __________________________________________________________ ------ =_NextPart_001_01BE00C8.6B7547E0 Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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    Does anybody know = how to force fonts to embed in a document. We have a file that
    has been distilled, = but some fonts show up as dots on NT machines (they show up
    as subsets). = Redistilling does not work. Any suggestions?
    Thank you.

    Margret = Meyer
    Glyphica

    Hi Margret,

    Under the macro = Distiller you have job options. There you have font embedding. You have = to install your fonts before distilling.


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    Henrik L.
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To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Hi, is there any plugin for Acrobat reader, which installs an email-button for the reader when opening a pdf-file within my webbrowser ? There is a plugin called RTS Joust, but this only works within Acrobat Exchange. Thanx for any help. Chris === Christoph Ahlers Paderborn, Germany mailto:christoph.ahlers@bertelsmann.de mailto:cahlers@rocketmail.com mailto:r00018@pbhrzs0.uni-paderborn.de _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 26-Oct-1998 14:29:35-GMT,1543;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA27053 for ; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 07:29:20 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA13014; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 08:01:00 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 26 Oct 1998 07:56:48 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA12687; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 07:56:46 -0600 Message-ID: <51B5F5DB33DCD0118B5C006097AB858156304C@ipo.noaa.gov> From: "Fix, Randy" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] PDF Reader for Windows CE Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 08:54:33 -0500 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Does anyone know if Adobe makes a version of Reader for Windows CE. Randy __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 26-Oct-1998 18:20:23-GMT,2538;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA03227 for ; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 11:20:17 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA27487; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 11:58:56 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 26 Oct 1998 11:55:50 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA27244; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 11:55:48 -0600 Message-ID: From: "Livingston, Thomas S" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Loss of background behind letters Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 09:53:41 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2407.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Hi! I have been using the PDF Writer to create a PDF from a Framemaker document. The problem with the Writer is that I sometimes lose spacing between characters in the text when I print the PDF on certain printers. It's not a Framemaker problem but the PDF Writer. If I use the Distiller to create the PDF, I avoid the character spacing problem but I add another problem. In viewing the PDF produced by the Distiller, there is a loss of gray background behind the small letters used in the figures as well as a muddiness of the header and footer letters. A printed copy does not have this problem - it's only a viewing problem. The viewing problem is a font problem. If I use Courier, the problem goes away. However, I cannot replace the font type (true type) with another. Any ideas on what I can do? I am using version 3.02 and have used the default settings except Font Embedding - Embed All Fonts. Thanks in advance. Tom Livingston FSBTI __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 26-Oct-1998 18:25:51-GMT,2098;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA03422 for ; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 11:25:50 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA27090; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 11:53:33 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 26 Oct 1998 11:49:59 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA26809; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 11:49:57 -0600 Message-ID: <3634BFAF.E49F9746@pam-mar.com> Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 13:30:12 -0500 From: Elaine Marshall Organization: Pam Mar Color Service X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 (Macintosh; I; 68K) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Re: pdf-digest for October-21-98 [V2 #351] X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: <199810211607.LAA00487@everglades.binc.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Didn't see an email address for Jorge...he has the ising images when editing text...my question to him is...please tell me exactly how you are creating your pdf's...also include your preferences in exchange. I'm also on a mac, perhaps we can work this out if we go through step by step... Personally I have never had this happen..but you never know, tomorrow is a new day. Elaine __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 26-Oct-1998 18:26:03-GMT,3190;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA03426 for ; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 11:26:02 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA27589; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 11:59:43 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 26 Oct 1998 11:56:38 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA27292; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 11:56:36 -0600 From: sgililland@nexstar.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: NEXSTAR To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <872566A9.0062AD0E.00@pigeon.nexstar.com> Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 09:56:39 -0800 Subject: RE: [PDF] Importing PDF into MSoffice apps Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== You might want to look at RedWing (BCL Computers). It provides a means to extract text and/or graphics into wordprocessing and spreadsheet applications. SueG Wolfgang Ziegler on 10/22/98 11:35:08 AM Please respond to pdf@lists.pdfzone.com To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com cc: (bcc: Sue Gililland/SanDimas/NeXstar) Subject: RE: [PDF] Importing PDF into MSoffice apps ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Hi again, thanks for the responses, unfortunately none of the seem to help me ... Maybe I should have been more specific: We keep our documents (text and graphics) in PDF, on request they need to be imported to WORD for distribution and PowerPoint for presentations, preferably without loss of quality from the original PDF, on different platforms. > Still, if you work exclusively with PostScript >printers, you may get happier (and certainly smaller) results using >EPS export. we work with PS printers only, to my knowledge there is no option to export to EPS on PC. Also I was looking for an option without intermediate file generation, that's why utilities like Jade and Freebird didn't appeal. >When you simply copy a graphics from a PDF document, you're only getting a >screen shot. That's what I am using for the PowerPoint presentations. Thanks, Wolfgang Ziegler __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 26-Oct-1998 19:24:31-GMT,4582;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA04815 for ; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 12:24:26 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA31673; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 13:02:17 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 26 Oct 1998 12:59:27 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA31426; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 12:59:25 -0600 From: "Chris Bill" To: "Ada Yue" Cc: "PDF Lists" Subject: RE: [PDF] PDF files over 4Mb do not open in a web browser Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 18:58:42 -0000 Message-ID: <000301be0112$a65ffc20$c3fcfea9@ctbill> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19981023123806.00915b10@elroy> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Ada, I have tested Acrobat 3.02. It still does not fix my problem with PDF files >4Mb opened from a LOCAL drive through a web browser. It does exactly as the OCX fix available separately for Reader 3.01. ie It will easily open PDF documents of any size provided they are resident on an http server. When will Adobe fix this problem? Best Regards Chris Bill > -----Original Message----- > From: Ada Yue [mailto:ayue@Adobe.COM] > Sent: 23 October 1998 20:38 > To: Chris Bill; thiersch@env-sol.com > Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF files over 4Mb do not open in a web browser > > > Chris, Tom, > > According to our development engineer, this is a bug in Acrobat 3.x. > This bug is already fixed in our post-Acrobat 3.01 release. > Thank You. > > Ada Yue > Quality Engineering Manager, Acrobat > Adobe Systems Incorporated > ayue@adobe.com > > At 05:09 PM 10/23/98 +0100, you wrote: > > > >====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > > > >Has anyone experienced this problem before...? > > > >Optimized (or unoptimized) PDF files over only 4Mb or greater > will not open > >in an internet browser via the Acrobat plug-in (Netscape 4 or Internet > >Explorer 4.01)when activated from a link on an html page that is > resident on > >a local drive or CD. The same 4Mb or greater file(s) will open when > >accessed via the same html file and link if resident on a http > server. The > >files do open directly in Reader or Exchange as expected. > >The symptoms of the fault appear as the now well known 'white screen of > >death'. ie, The browser displays only a white area where the pdf > file would > >normally be displayed. This has been cured in the past by the Adobe > >Active-X fix (now built in to Acrobat Reader 3.02), but it does > not appear > >to work on files greater than 4Mb. > >I have tried to ascertain whether or not it is PDF files that > are possibly > >corrupt by opening them in Acrobat Exchange and gradually > deleting pages and > >saving. The file will not be displayed in a browser window until the file > >size drops below 4Mb. > > > >I need to know how to work around this problem so that subsections of our > >intranet which contains html pages of links to PDF documents may be > >transferred to CD-ROM. > > > >I do not want to break my PDF files down in to smaller chunks as > this would > >prevent internal pdf links from being created automatically. > > > >Thank you in advance > > > >Chris Bill > > > > > >__________________________________________________________ > > > >-> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- > >*** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** > >+ For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + > >__________________________________________________________ > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 26-Oct-1998 19:34:01-GMT,5258;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA05049 for ; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 12:33:55 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA32590; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 13:16:27 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 26 Oct 1998 13:13:15 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA32395; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 13:13:13 -0600 From: "Chris Bill" Old-To: "Ada Yue" Cc: "PDF Lists" Subject: RE: [PDF] PDF files over 4Mb do not open in a web browser Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 18:58:42 -0000 Message-ID: <000301be0112$a65ffc20$c3fcfea9@ctbill> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19981023123806.00915b10@elroy> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com X-Loop: forwarded by miller@performancegraphics.com To: millercs@earthlink.net Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Ada, I have tested Acrobat 3.02. It still does not fix my problem with PDF files >4Mb opened from a LOCAL drive through a web browser. It does exactly as the OCX fix available separately for Reader 3.01. ie It will easily open PDF documents of any size provided they are resident on an http server. When will Adobe fix this problem? Best Regards Chris Bill > -----Original Message----- > From: Ada Yue [mailto:ayue@Adobe.COM] > Sent: 23 October 1998 20:38 > To: Chris Bill; thiersch@env-sol.com > Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF files over 4Mb do not open in a web browser > > > Chris, Tom, > > According to our development engineer, this is a bug in Acrobat 3.x. > This bug is already fixed in our post-Acrobat 3.01 release. > Thank You. > > Ada Yue > Quality Engineering Manager, Acrobat > Adobe Systems Incorporated > ayue@adobe.com > > At 05:09 PM 10/23/98 +0100, you wrote: > > > >====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > > > >Has anyone experienced this problem before...? > > > >Optimized (or unoptimized) PDF files over only 4Mb or greater > will not open > >in an internet browser via the Acrobat plug-in (Netscape 4 or Internet > >Explorer 4.01)when activated from a link on an html page that is > resident on > >a local drive or CD. The same 4Mb or greater file(s) will open when > >accessed via the same html file and link if resident on a http > server. The > >files do open directly in Reader or Exchange as expected. > >The symptoms of the fault appear as the now well known 'white screen of > >death'. ie, The browser displays only a white area where the pdf > file would > >normally be displayed. This has been cured in the past by the Adobe > >Active-X fix (now built in to Acrobat Reader 3.02), but it does > not appear > >to work on files greater than 4Mb. > >I have tried to ascertain whether or not it is PDF files that > are possibly > >corrupt by opening them in Acrobat Exchange and gradually > deleting pages and > >saving. The file will not be displayed in a browser window until the file > >size drops below 4Mb. > > > >I need to know how to work around this problem so that subsections of our > >intranet which contains html pages of links to PDF documents may be > >transferred to CD-ROM. > > > >I do not want to break my PDF files down in to smaller chunks as > this would > >prevent internal pdf links from being created automatically. > > > >Thank you in advance > > > >Chris Bill > > > > > >__________________________________________________________ > > > >-> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- > >*** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** > >+ For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + > >__________________________________________________________ > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 26-Oct-1998 23:06:39-GMT,2379;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA10252 for ; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 16:06:38 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA13415; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 16:51:07 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 26 Oct 1998 16:48:49 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA13271; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 16:48:47 -0600 From: "David Cornwell" To: "PDF mailing list - technical" Subject: [PDF] rtf --> PDF --> Zip files sizes. why? Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 22:52:58 -0000 Message-ID: <000301be0133$607e4380$0441a8c0@davec.docctrl.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2120.0 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== I have just printed a 16.6 Mbytes RTF file to PDF via Distiller 3.01. Resultant file size 12.2 Mbytes. Then I zipped the PDF file. Resultant file size 8.47 Mbytes. Having read comments on this list along the lines of: "there is no point in zipping up PDF files as they are already compressed" can someone tell me what's going on? Thanks drc --- David Cornwell, Director - Business Development Computerised Document Control Ltd PO Box 5, Chepstow, Monmouthshire, NP6 6YU, United Kingdom Tel: + 44 (0) 1291 635 403 (direct) ; USA: 1-888-240-1752 Fax: + 44 (0) 1291 623 902 www.docctrl.com Forging the link between Document Systems and Acrobat __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 26-Oct-1998 23:07:03-GMT,2372;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA10262 for ; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 16:06:48 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA12300; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 16:34:11 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 26 Oct 1998 16:31:26 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA12129; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 16:31:25 -0600 Message-Id: <199810262231.QAA12115@everglades.binc.net> Date: 26 Oct 98 17:27:44 -0500 From: Justin Blocksom Subject: [PDF] High res not found when printing PDF To: PDF list X-Mailer: QuickMail Pro 1.5.2 (Mac) X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-Ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id QAA12124 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== On the Mac - I have scanned eight 8.5x11 212dpi color tiff images through Photoshop, put each one of them on a 8.5x11 page in quark, print to file and Distilled it with settings set to downsample to 212 jpeg low compression for the color images. Opened it up in Exchange and printed it to a Scitex front end connected to a DocuColor 40. During the ripping process it aborts saying, "High res. page 2.tiff was not found" (page 2 .tiff is the name of the first image) Is this a problem with the way I have configured Distiller? Why does it want a high res when it's a single composite tiff? Any help would be apprectiated. Thanks. Justin Blocksom Printing & Publications Corp. jblocksom@printandpub.com __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 26-Oct-1998 23:08:13-GMT,2201;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA10317 for ; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 16:08:03 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA12832; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 16:41:45 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 26 Oct 1998 16:40:49 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA12729; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 16:40:48 -0600 Subject: [PDF] error loading plugins Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 16:41:26 -0700 x-sender: dennisw@mail.inpractice.net x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: Dennis Walker To: "PDF Mail List" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-ID: <1302706015-145793331@mail.inpractice.net> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== I have developed a chronic problem, when launching Exchange 3.0.1 on a Mac, of getting an error message for each plugin that tries to load. It says that there was a problem loading and it did not load. I just did install another hard disk and did a clean install of MacOS 8.1, which I am now running off of. Yet I did go through the old system folder and look for resources/prefs to copy over. Thought I got them all, but maybe not. What else could it be? Thanks. Dennis Walker dennisw@inpractice.net EVP/Production Mgr. 435-647-9910 InPractice Publications, Inc. 435-647-5927 fax __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 26-Oct-1998 23:13:36-GMT,3234;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA10459 for ; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 16:13:26 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA14165; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 17:01:36 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 26 Oct 1998 17:00:37 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA14092; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 17:00:36 -0600 From: "Scott Hamlow" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] rtf --> PDF --> Zip files sizes. why? Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 15:02:03 -0800 Message-ID: <001901be0134$a53e4000$45a2fecc@scotth.fourgen.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2232.26 In-Reply-To: <000301be0133$607e4380$0441a8c0@davec.docctrl.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Did you optimize the file before zipping. If not, this is where some of the compression could be coming from. > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com [mailto:owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com]On > Behalf Of David Cornwell > Sent: Monday, October 26, 1998 2:53 PM > To: PDF mailing list - technical > Subject: [PDF] rtf --> PDF --> Zip files sizes. why? > > > > ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > > I have just printed a 16.6 Mbytes RTF file to PDF via Distiller 3.01. > Resultant file size 12.2 Mbytes. Then I zipped the PDF file. > Resultant file > size 8.47 Mbytes. > > Having read comments on this list along the lines of: "there is > no point in > zipping up PDF files as they are already compressed" can someone tell me > what's going on? > > Thanks > > drc > --- > David Cornwell, Director - Business Development > Computerised Document Control Ltd > PO Box 5, Chepstow, Monmouthshire, NP6 6YU, United Kingdom > Tel: + 44 (0) 1291 635 403 (direct) ; USA: 1-888-240-1752 > Fax: + 44 (0) 1291 623 902 > www.docctrl.com > Forging the link between Document Systems and Acrobat > > > __________________________________________________________ > > -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- > *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** > + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + > __________________________________________________________ > > __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 26-Oct-1998 23:18:55-GMT,2967;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA10576 for ; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 16:18:40 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA14725; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 17:08:58 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 26 Oct 1998 17:07:42 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA14623; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 17:07:40 -0600 Message-ID: From: "Epps, Fred W" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] rtf --> PDF --> Zip files sizes. why? Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 15:07:33 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2407.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Perhaps you did not optimize the PDF in Exchange. Fred.W.Epps@Boeing.com > ---------- > From: David Cornwell[SMTP:davec@docctrl.com] > Reply To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Sent: Monday, 26 October, 1998 02:52 PM > To: PDF mailing list - technical > Subject: [PDF] rtf --> PDF --> Zip files sizes. why? > > > ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > > I have just printed a 16.6 Mbytes RTF file to PDF via Distiller 3.01. > Resultant file size 12.2 Mbytes. Then I zipped the PDF file. Resultant > file > size 8.47 Mbytes. > > Having read comments on this list along the lines of: "there is no point > in > zipping up PDF files as they are already compressed" can someone tell me > what's going on? > > Thanks > > drc > --- > David Cornwell, Director - Business Development > Computerised Document Control Ltd > PO Box 5, Chepstow, Monmouthshire, NP6 6YU, United Kingdom > Tel: + 44 (0) 1291 635 403 (direct) ; USA: 1-888-240-1752 > Fax: + 44 (0) 1291 623 902 > www.docctrl.com > Forging the link between Document Systems and Acrobat > > > __________________________________________________________ > > -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- > *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** > + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + > __________________________________________________________ > __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 26-Oct-1998 23:32:42-GMT,1908;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA10859 for ; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 16:32:30 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA15252; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 17:16:29 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 26 Oct 1998 17:14:46 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA15153; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 17:14:44 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19981026182445.008484f0@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 18:24:45 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] rtf --> PDF --> Zip files sizes. why? In-Reply-To: <000301be0133$607e4380$0441a8c0@davec.docctrl.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Did you make an ASCII or BINARY PDF? >Having read comments on this list along the lines of: "there is no point in >zipping up PDF files as they are already compressed" can someone tell me >what's going on? > Steve Rindsberg/Prez RDP http://www.rdpslides.com __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 26-Oct-1998 23:49:46-GMT,3088;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA11249 for ; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 16:49:40 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA16199; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 17:32:36 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 26 Oct 1998 17:31:31 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA16098; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 17:31:30 -0600 From: "David Cornwell" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] rtf --> PDF --> Zip files sizes. why? Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 23:35:47 -0000 Message-ID: <000101be0139$5bb05900$0441a8c0@davec.docctrl.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19981026182445.008484f0@pop.iglou.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2120.0 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Steve Rindsberg said: > Did you make an ASCII or BINARY PDF? Sorry. Don't understand the difference. How can I tell? drc --- David Cornwell, Director - Business Development Computerised Document Control Ltd PO Box 5, Chepstow, Monmouthshire, NP6 6YU, United Kingdom Tel: + 44 (0) 1291 635 403 (direct) ; USA: 1-888-240-1752 Fax: + 44 (0) 1291 623 902 www.docctrl.com Forging the link between Document Systems and Acrobat > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com [mailto:owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com]On > Behalf Of Steve Rindsberg > Sent: 26 October 1998 23:25 > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: Re: [PDF] rtf --> PDF --> Zip files sizes. why? > > > > ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > > > >Having read comments on this list along the lines of: "there is > no point in > >zipping up PDF files as they are already compressed" can someone tell me > >what's going on? > > > > Steve Rindsberg/Prez > RDP > http://www.rdpslides.com > > __________________________________________________________ > > -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- > *** Sponsorship & Advt. 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Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 26-Oct-1998 23:59:13-GMT,3918;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA11438 for ; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 16:59:11 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA16752; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 17:41:26 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 26 Oct 1998 17:40:08 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA16659; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 17:40:06 -0600 From: "Scott Hamlow" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] rtf --> PDF --> Zip files sizes. why? Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 15:41:33 -0800 Message-ID: <001a01be013a$29f67060$45a2fecc@scotth.fourgen.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2232.26 In-Reply-To: <000101be0139$5bb05900$0441a8c0@davec.docctrl.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== On the first tab of the Distiller Job Options, there is a check box for distill as ASCII. > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com [mailto:owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com]On > Behalf Of David Cornwell > Sent: Monday, October 26, 1998 3:36 PM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: RE: [PDF] rtf --> PDF --> Zip files sizes. why? > > > > ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > > Steve Rindsberg said: > > > Did you make an ASCII or BINARY PDF? > > Sorry. Don't understand the difference. How can I tell? > > drc > --- > David Cornwell, Director - Business Development > Computerised Document Control Ltd > PO Box 5, Chepstow, Monmouthshire, NP6 6YU, United Kingdom > Tel: + 44 (0) 1291 635 403 (direct) ; USA: 1-888-240-1752 > Fax: + 44 (0) 1291 623 902 > www.docctrl.com > Forging the link between Document Systems and Acrobat > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com [mailto:owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com]On > > Behalf Of Steve Rindsberg > > Sent: 26 October 1998 23:25 > > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > > Subject: Re: [PDF] rtf --> PDF --> Zip files sizes. why? > > > > > > > > ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > > > > > > > >Having read comments on this list along the lines of: "there is > > no point in > > >zipping up PDF files as they are already compressed" can > someone tell me > > >what's going on? > > > > > > > Steve Rindsberg/Prez > > RDP > > http://www.rdpslides.com > > > > __________________________________________________________ > > > > -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- > > *** Sponsorship & Advt. 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Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 23:32:26 -0000 Message-ID: <000001be0138$e4392820$0441a8c0@davec.docctrl.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <001901be0134$a53e4000$45a2fecc@scotth.fourgen.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2120.0 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== I said: > > I have just printed a 16.6 Mbytes RTF file to PDF via Distiller 3.01. > > Resultant file size 12.2 Mbytes. Then I zipped the PDF file. > > Resultant file size 8.47 Mbytes. > > > > Having read comments on this list along the lines of: "there is > > no point in zipping up PDF files as they are already compressed" can someone tell me what's going on? Scott Hamlow & Fred Epps said suggested optimising the PDF. so I tried it. Optimised PDF file is 11.1 Mbytes. Resultant Zip file is 8.95 Mbytes. Strange but true. drc --- David Cornwell, Director - Business Development Computerised Document Control Ltd PO Box 5, Chepstow, Monmouthshire, NP6 6YU, United Kingdom Tel: + 44 (0) 1291 635 403 (direct) ; USA: 1-888-240-1752 Fax: + 44 (0) 1291 623 902 www.docctrl.com Forging the link between Document Systems and Acrobat > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com [mailto:owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com]On > Behalf Of Scott Hamlow > Sent: 26 October 1998 23:02 > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: RE: [PDF] rtf --> PDF --> Zip files sizes. why? > > > > ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > > Did you optimize the file before zipping. If not, this is where > some of the > compression could be coming from. > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com [mailto:owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com]On > > Behalf Of David Cornwell > > Sent: Monday, October 26, 1998 2:53 PM > > To: PDF mailing list - technical > > Subject: [PDF] rtf --> PDF --> Zip files sizes. why? > > > > > > > > ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > > > > I have just printed a 16.6 Mbytes RTF file to PDF via Distiller 3.01. > > Resultant file size 12.2 Mbytes. Then I zipped the PDF file. > > Resultant file > > size 8.47 Mbytes. > > > > Having read comments on this list along the lines of: "there is > > no point in > > zipping up PDF files as they are already compressed" can someone tell me > > what's going on? > > > > Thanks > > > > drc > > --- > > David Cornwell, Director - Business Development > > Computerised Document Control Ltd > > PO Box 5, Chepstow, Monmouthshire, NP6 6YU, United Kingdom > > Tel: + 44 (0) 1291 635 403 (direct) ; USA: 1-888-240-1752 > > Fax: + 44 (0) 1291 623 902 > > www.docctrl.com > > Forging the link between Document Systems and Acrobat > > > > > > __________________________________________________________ > > > > -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- > > *** Sponsorship & Advt. 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Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 27-Oct-1998 0:00:09-GMT,3727;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA11468 for ; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 16:59:58 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA16764; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 17:41:57 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 26 Oct 1998 17:41:03 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA16718; Mon, 26 Oct 1998 17:41:01 -0600 Message-ID: From: "Epps, Fred W" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] rtf --> PDF --> Zip files sizes. why? Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 15:40:58 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2407.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== In Distiller JobOptions you get to check ASCII Format. Don't do this and it will be Binary. Fred.W.Epps@Boeing.com > ---------- > From: David Cornwell[SMTP:davec@docctrl.com] > Reply To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Sent: Monday, 26 October, 1998 03:35 PM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: RE: [PDF] rtf --> PDF --> Zip files sizes. why? > > > ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > > Steve Rindsberg said: > > > Did you make an ASCII or BINARY PDF? > > Sorry. Don't understand the difference. How can I tell? > > drc > --- > David Cornwell, Director - Business Development > Computerised Document Control Ltd > PO Box 5, Chepstow, Monmouthshire, NP6 6YU, United Kingdom > Tel: + 44 (0) 1291 635 403 (direct) ; USA: 1-888-240-1752 > Fax: + 44 (0) 1291 623 902 > www.docctrl.com > Forging the link between Document Systems and Acrobat > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com [mailto:owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com]On > > Behalf Of Steve Rindsberg > > Sent: 26 October 1998 23:25 > > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > > Subject: Re: [PDF] rtf --> PDF --> Zip files sizes. why? > > > > > > > > ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > > > > > > > >Having read comments on this list along the lines of: "there is > > no point in > > >zipping up PDF files as they are already compressed" can someone tell > me > > >what's going on? > > > > > > > Steve Rindsberg/Prez > > RDP > > http://www.rdpslides.com > > > > __________________________________________________________ > > > > -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- > > *** Sponsorship & Advt. 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Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 27-Oct-1998 7:23:51-GMT,2657;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA20903 for ; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 00:23:50 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA04000; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 01:00:06 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 27 Oct 1998 00:57:38 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA03849; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 00:57:36 -0600 Subject: Re: [PDF] rtf --> PDF --> Zip files sizes. why? In-Reply-To: <000001be0138$e4392820$0441a8c0@davec.docctrl.com> from David Cornwell at "Oct 26, 98 11:32:26 pm" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 18:17:07 +1100 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL39 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: From: Gregory Tod Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== David Cornwell said: > > > I have just printed a 16.6 Mbytes RTF file to PDF via Distiller 3.01. > > > Resultant file size 12.2 Mbytes. Then I zipped the PDF file. > > > Resultant file size 8.47 Mbytes. > > > > > > Having read comments on this list along the lines of: "there is > > > no point in zipping up PDF files as they are already compressed" can > someone tell me what's going on? > > Scott Hamlow & Fred Epps said suggested optimising the PDF. so I tried it. > > Optimised PDF file is 11.1 Mbytes. Resultant Zip file is 8.95 Mbytes. > > Strange but true. This makes perfect sense. The compression that is part of the PDF specification works on a per stream basis -- simplistically speaking things like the contents markup for each page are compressed, but _individually_. When you zip a file you are getting compression across the _entire_ file and the algorithm used for compression works better when it is given larger chunks to deal with. -- Gregory Tod gtod@netspace.net.au __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 27-Oct-1998 8:48:27-GMT,3595;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA22347 for ; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 01:48:25 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA07517; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 02:27:05 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 27 Oct 1998 02:23:52 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA07313; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 02:23:50 -0600 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com cc: PDF mailing list - technical Subject: Re: [PDF] rtf --> PDF --> Zip files sizes. why? In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 26 Oct 1998 22:52:58 GMT." <000301be0133$607e4380$0441a8c0@davec.docctrl.com> Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 08:23:30 +0000 Message-ID: <14109.909476610@isode.com> From: Chris Ridd Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== On Mon, 26 Oct 1998 22:52:58 GMT, "David Cornwell" wrote: > > ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > > I have just printed a 16.6 Mbytes RTF file to PDF via Distiller 3.01. > Resultant file size 12.2 Mbytes. Then I zipped the PDF file. Resultant file > size 8.47 Mbytes. > > Having read comments on this list along the lines of: "there is no point in > zipping up PDF files as they are already compressed" can someone tell me > what's going on? > > Thanks > > drc I have some examples which suggest that zipping up already compressed binary PDF files will produce smaller files: File PDF ZIP Saving a 1010178 557507 45% b 77502 55817 28% c 527305 390252 26% d 105216 77252 27% e 201389 154016 24% f 418693 323963 23% g 112982 75231 34% h 103449 66710 36% i 57661 35756 38% j 121033 87990 27% Firstly, you should check that the compression used in the PDF file is Flate compression. This is the name of the algorithm used in Zip. If you open the PDF file in BBEdit or emacs (or a binary-capable editor on Windows) then you should be able to find the test "Flate" in the file. All the files in my example used Flat compression. Secondly, you can pass several parameters to the free zLib code that Adobe used to do the Flate compression, from no compression (but fast) to best compression (but slow). Adobe uses the default - reasonable compression (reasonable speed) and provides no mean for changing the compression parameter. Your zip program may well be using more compression (Mine was in the above examples.) Thirdly, there is a certain amount of information in PDF files that isn't compressed, like bookmarks, hyperlinks, page information. I forget what precisely, I haven't looked at the PDF spec much recently. All my files had lots of hyperlinks and so on. I'm not particularly surprised that a zipped PDF file is smaller than a plain PDF file. Chris __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 27-Oct-1998 8:48:27-GMT,4271;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA22348 for ; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 01:48:26 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA08089; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 02:37:12 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 27 Oct 1998 02:35:47 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA07961; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 02:35:45 -0600 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 Old-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com cc: PDF mailing list - technical Subject: Re: [PDF] rtf --> PDF --> Zip files sizes. why? In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 26 Oct 1998 22:52:58 GMT." <000301be0133$607e4380$0441a8c0@davec.docctrl.com> Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 08:23:30 +0000 Message-ID: <14109.909476610@isode.com> From: Chris Ridd URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com X-Loop: forwarded by miller@performancegraphics.com To: millercs@earthlink.net Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== On Mon, 26 Oct 1998 22:52:58 GMT, "David Cornwell" wrote: > > ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > > I have just printed a 16.6 Mbytes RTF file to PDF via Distiller 3.01. > Resultant file size 12.2 Mbytes. Then I zipped the PDF file. Resultant file > size 8.47 Mbytes. > > Having read comments on this list along the lines of: "there is no point in > zipping up PDF files as they are already compressed" can someone tell me > what's going on? > > Thanks > > drc I have some examples which suggest that zipping up already compressed binary PDF files will produce smaller files: File PDF ZIP Saving a 1010178 557507 45% b 77502 55817 28% c 527305 390252 26% d 105216 77252 27% e 201389 154016 24% f 418693 323963 23% g 112982 75231 34% h 103449 66710 36% i 57661 35756 38% j 121033 87990 27% Firstly, you should check that the compression used in the PDF file is Flate compression. This is the name of the algorithm used in Zip. If you open the PDF file in BBEdit or emacs (or a binary-capable editor on Windows) then you should be able to find the test "Flate" in the file. All the files in my example used Flat compression. Secondly, you can pass several parameters to the free zLib code that Adobe used to do the Flate compression, from no compression (but fast) to best compression (but slow). Adobe uses the default - reasonable compression (reasonable speed) and provides no mean for changing the compression parameter. Your zip program may well be using more compression (Mine was in the above examples.) Thirdly, there is a certain amount of information in PDF files that isn't compressed, like bookmarks, hyperlinks, page information. I forget what precisely, I haven't looked at the PDF spec much recently. All my files had lots of hyperlinks and so on. I'm not particularly surprised that a zipped PDF file is smaller than a plain PDF file. Chris __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. 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Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 27-Oct-1998 8:55:52-GMT,3595;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA22493 for ; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 01:55:51 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA07518; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 02:27:05 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 27 Oct 1998 02:23:59 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA07336; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 02:23:58 -0600 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com cc: PDF mailing list - technical Subject: Re: [PDF] rtf --> PDF --> Zip files sizes. why? In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 26 Oct 1998 22:52:58 GMT." <000301be0133$607e4380$0441a8c0@davec.docctrl.com> Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 08:23:30 +0000 Message-ID: <14109.909476610@isode.com> From: Chris Ridd Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== On Mon, 26 Oct 1998 22:52:58 GMT, "David Cornwell" wrote: > > ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > > I have just printed a 16.6 Mbytes RTF file to PDF via Distiller 3.01. > Resultant file size 12.2 Mbytes. Then I zipped the PDF file. Resultant file > size 8.47 Mbytes. > > Having read comments on this list along the lines of: "there is no point in > zipping up PDF files as they are already compressed" can someone tell me > what's going on? > > Thanks > > drc I have some examples which suggest that zipping up already compressed binary PDF files will produce smaller files: File PDF ZIP Saving a 1010178 557507 45% b 77502 55817 28% c 527305 390252 26% d 105216 77252 27% e 201389 154016 24% f 418693 323963 23% g 112982 75231 34% h 103449 66710 36% i 57661 35756 38% j 121033 87990 27% Firstly, you should check that the compression used in the PDF file is Flate compression. This is the name of the algorithm used in Zip. If you open the PDF file in BBEdit or emacs (or a binary-capable editor on Windows) then you should be able to find the test "Flate" in the file. All the files in my example used Flat compression. Secondly, you can pass several parameters to the free zLib code that Adobe used to do the Flate compression, from no compression (but fast) to best compression (but slow). Adobe uses the default - reasonable compression (reasonable speed) and provides no mean for changing the compression parameter. Your zip program may well be using more compression (Mine was in the above examples.) Thirdly, there is a certain amount of information in PDF files that isn't compressed, like bookmarks, hyperlinks, page information. I forget what precisely, I haven't looked at the PDF spec much recently. All my files had lots of hyperlinks and so on. I'm not particularly surprised that a zipped PDF file is smaller than a plain PDF file. Chris __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 27-Oct-1998 9:01:49-GMT,4271;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA22658 for ; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 02:01:48 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA08088; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 02:37:12 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 27 Oct 1998 02:35:46 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA07959; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 02:35:45 -0600 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 Old-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com cc: PDF mailing list - technical Subject: Re: [PDF] rtf --> PDF --> Zip files sizes. why? In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 26 Oct 1998 22:52:58 GMT." <000301be0133$607e4380$0441a8c0@davec.docctrl.com> Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 08:23:30 +0000 Message-ID: <14109.909476610@isode.com> From: Chris Ridd URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com X-Loop: forwarded by miller@performancegraphics.com To: millercs@earthlink.net Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== On Mon, 26 Oct 1998 22:52:58 GMT, "David Cornwell" wrote: > > ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > > I have just printed a 16.6 Mbytes RTF file to PDF via Distiller 3.01. > Resultant file size 12.2 Mbytes. Then I zipped the PDF file. Resultant file > size 8.47 Mbytes. > > Having read comments on this list along the lines of: "there is no point in > zipping up PDF files as they are already compressed" can someone tell me > what's going on? > > Thanks > > drc I have some examples which suggest that zipping up already compressed binary PDF files will produce smaller files: File PDF ZIP Saving a 1010178 557507 45% b 77502 55817 28% c 527305 390252 26% d 105216 77252 27% e 201389 154016 24% f 418693 323963 23% g 112982 75231 34% h 103449 66710 36% i 57661 35756 38% j 121033 87990 27% Firstly, you should check that the compression used in the PDF file is Flate compression. This is the name of the algorithm used in Zip. If you open the PDF file in BBEdit or emacs (or a binary-capable editor on Windows) then you should be able to find the test "Flate" in the file. All the files in my example used Flat compression. Secondly, you can pass several parameters to the free zLib code that Adobe used to do the Flate compression, from no compression (but fast) to best compression (but slow). Adobe uses the default - reasonable compression (reasonable speed) and provides no mean for changing the compression parameter. Your zip program may well be using more compression (Mine was in the above examples.) Thirdly, there is a certain amount of information in PDF files that isn't compressed, like bookmarks, hyperlinks, page information. I forget what precisely, I haven't looked at the PDF spec much recently. All my files had lots of hyperlinks and so on. I'm not particularly surprised that a zipped PDF file is smaller than a plain PDF file. Chris __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. 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Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 27-Oct-1998 13:58:16-GMT,2159;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA28239 for ; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 06:58:15 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA21310; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 07:40:07 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 27 Oct 1998 07:36:52 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA20934; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 07:36:49 -0600 X-Server-Uuid: fc96bae8-3f98-11d2-a40d-00805f199815 Message-ID: From: "Kinstle, Joel" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] rtf --> PDF --> Zip files sizes. why? Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 07:36:16 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) X-WSS-ID: 1A2B13D847645-01-01 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== David Cornwell said: > I have just printed a 16.6 Mbytes RTF file to PDF via Distiller 3.01. > Resultant file size 12.2 Mbytes. Then I zipped the PDF file. > Resultant file size 8.47 Mbytes. > Having read comments on this list along the lines of: "there is > no point in zipping up PDF files as they are already compressed" can > someone tell me what's going on? > My question is: What was your setting for compression when you initially distilled? Joel Kinstle __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 27-Oct-1998 14:03:25-GMT,1788;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA28321 for ; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 07:03:24 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA21750; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 07:45:36 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 27 Oct 1998 07:43:48 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA21551; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 07:43:46 -0600 Message-ID: <01BE018E.227B91E0.masonc@anguillanet.com> From: Chris Mason To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] High res not found when printing PDF Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 08:43:18 -0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Probably because you have preserved the OPI comments. Chris Chris Mason Box 340, The Valley, Anguilla, British West Indies http://net.ai Tel: 264 497 5670 Fax: 264 497 8463 IKVGwx __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. 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Thanks for your input, that was it! Thanks again! . Justin Blocksom Printing & Publications Corp. jblocksom@printandpub.com . Chris Mason wrote: > >====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > >Probably because you have preserved the OPI comments. >Chris > > >Chris Mason >Box 340, The Valley, Anguilla, British West Indies >http://net.ai >Tel: 264 497 5670 Fax: 264 497 8463 >IKVGwx > > >__________________________________________________________ > >-> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- >*** Sponsorship & Advt. 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Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 27-Oct-1998 16:42:47-GMT,2303;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA02230 for ; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 09:42:32 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA00179; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 10:21:35 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 27 Oct 1998 10:19:00 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA32756; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 10:18:57 -0600 Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 10:18:54 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: amidst@southwind.net (Kim Shaffer) Subject: [PDF] spooling/printing problem Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== I have created a 204 page Quark document (black and white, text only) that I have used Distiller to convert to a 253 K pdf file. (I have tried both 2.1 and 3.0 compatable.) It looks and acts like it should on screen. When I try to print the document, however, it begins a long spooling routine that always ends with a "not enough disk space" message. I know 4x space should be available on the hard disk for spooling, but I an getting this message on one computer with 50 MG available, and another with 200 MG! I am working with a Macintosh PowerPC Performa 6116 and an Epson Stylus Color 600 (inkjet) printer. I am planning to make this document available for download, so even people with primitive equipment like mine will need to be able to print this document. Any helpful suggestions would be much appreciated. Kim __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 27-Oct-1998 16:47:18-GMT,1903;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA02356 for ; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 09:47:17 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA00788; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 10:29:47 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 27 Oct 1998 10:28:17 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA00645; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 10:28:16 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19981027113821.0092b9e0@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 11:38:21 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: RE: [PDF] rtf --> PDF --> Zip files sizes. why? In-Reply-To: <000101be0139$5bb05900$0441a8c0@davec.docctrl.com> References: <3.0.5.32.19981026182445.008484f0@pop.iglou.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== It's one of the options in Distiller. > >> Did you make an ASCII or BINARY PDF? > >Sorry. Don't understand the difference. How can I tell? > Steve Rindsberg/Prez RDP http://www.rdpslides.com __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 27-Oct-1998 16:47:33-GMT,2035;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA02359 for ; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 09:47:18 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA00751; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 10:29:16 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 27 Oct 1998 10:27:22 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA00540; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 10:27:21 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19981027113727.0092b6e0@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 11:37:27 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] error loading plugins In-Reply-To: <1302706015-145793331@mail.inpractice.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Have you tried re-installing Acrobat from the CD rather than simply copying things? That's not likely to work well. > >I just did install another hard disk and did a clean install of MacOS >8.1, which I am now running off of. Yet I did go through the old system >folder and look for resources/prefs to copy over. Thought I got them all, >but maybe not. > Steve Rindsberg/Prez RDP http://www.rdpslides.com __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 27-Oct-1998 18:10:10-GMT,2173;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA04512 for ; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 11:10:09 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA05880; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 11:42:08 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 27 Oct 1998 11:39:40 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA05713; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 11:39:38 -0600 Message-ID: From: "Jessup, Samuel" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Resorting multiple pages Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 09:40:04 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id LAA05708 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== I have a PDF with about a 2,000 pages than need to be resorted and bookmarked differently than they already are. Though I am sure that it would be exiting to sort them out individually (the old fashioned way), I would certainly feel better if there were some better process.   Samuel Jessup, Graphics Department Manager, LFR - Southwest Region 1920 Main Street, Suite 750, Irvine, California 92614 * 949.955.1390 mailto:samuel.jessup@lfr.com http://www.lfr.com   __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 27-Oct-1998 19:07:02-GMT,1921;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA05976 for ; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 12:07:01 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA09633; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 12:36:49 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 27 Oct 1998 12:35:26 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA09569; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 12:35:24 -0600 X-Lotus-FromDomain: KEYCORP From: "Karen L Mibus" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <852566AA.00655543.00@keybank.com> Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 13:28:42 -0500 Subject: Re: [PDF] Resorting multiple pages Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Samuel Jessup wrote: I have a PDF with about a 2,000 pages than need to be resorted and bookmarked differently than they already are. Though I am sure that it would be exiting to sort them out individually (the old fashioned way), I would certainly feel better if there were some better process. What source application did you use? Can you make the changes in the source file and then create a new PDF? --Karen __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 27-Oct-1998 19:07:09-GMT,2626;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA05984 for ; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 12:07:08 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA10569; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 12:47:45 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 27 Oct 1998 12:46:04 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA10468; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 12:46:03 -0600 Message-ID: From: "Jessup, Samuel" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Resorting multiple pages Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 10:46:21 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== The originals were scanned tiff files, converted to pdf by an outside vendor. -----Original Message----- From: Karen L Mibus [mailto:Karen_L_Mibus@keybank.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 1998 10:29 AM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Resorting multiple pages ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Samuel Jessup wrote: I have a PDF with about a 2,000 pages than need to be resorted and bookmarked differently than they already are. Though I am sure that it would be exiting to sort them out individually (the old fashioned way), I would certainly feel better if there were some better process. What source application did you use? Can you make the changes in the source file and then create a new PDF? --Karen __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 27-Oct-1998 19:29:41-GMT,2296;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA06540 for ; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 12:29:39 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA12644; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 13:12:25 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 27 Oct 1998 13:10:53 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA12548; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 13:10:52 -0600 Message-ID: From: "Livingston, Thomas S" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Form field display of current page number Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 11:08:46 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2407.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== I would like to display slide numbers on a PDF presentation. I can do this in the source document (Framemaker). However, if I change the order of the slides, I would need to go through the whole PDF process again so that the slide numbers were sequential. I'd rather move slides around in Exchange using the thumbnails. Is there a way that I can display the current page number on the PDF image. That way, the slide numbers would update as I rearranged them. I think I could use the Forms tool (text option) and have it calculate the page number using a JavaScript, but perhaps there's an easier way. Also, what kind of JavaScript could I use? Any help would be appreciated. Tom Livingston FSBTI __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 27-Oct-1998 20:55:16-GMT,1650;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA08746 for ; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 13:55:15 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA17765; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 14:22:30 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 27 Oct 1998 14:20:49 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA17673; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 14:20:47 -0600 X-Lotus-FromDomain: KEYCORP From: "Karen L Mibus" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <852566AA.006E2058.00@keybank.com> Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 15:04:08 -0500 Subject: [PDF] What's New in Acrobat 3.02 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== For those who are wondering about the fixes included in Acrobat 3.02, see: http://www.adobe.com/prodindex/acrobat/acroreaddiff302.html --Karen __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 27-Oct-1998 21:34:09-GMT,2074;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA09746 for ; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 14:34:02 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA21044; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 15:08:07 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 27 Oct 1998 15:06:23 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA20842; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 15:06:21 -0600 From: "Stan Glenn" To: Subject: [PDF] selecting multiple PDF files to print without actually opening/viewing them first. Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 13:06:42 -0800 Message-ID: <001601be01ed$b2c849a0$8e5c96d1@sglenn.cbspayroll.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== I need to allow viewers of my site to access a "check-off" list of about 200 PDF files and have the selected ones download and print without them having to actually open and view each PDF file individually in order to print it. Anyone have ideas how this can be done? Thanks. Stan Glenn/CBS Employer Services, Inc. __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 27-Oct-1998 22:17:42-GMT,2357;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA11107 for ; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 15:17:33 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA25294; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 16:00:53 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 27 Oct 1998 15:58:41 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA25040; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 15:58:40 -0600 Message-ID: <97790B563888D111B69F0000F81F7BF847F679@PRIORIS> From: Christine Johnson To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Exporting pdf in PC Quark 4.04 Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 15:50:14 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Hi Everyone! Okay, so my question is PDF related, but specifically it is a Windows glitch that is driving me nuts! We have Exchange for the PC and the Mac here. I'm trying to save a document on my PC through Quark's new Utilities option to Save As PDF and I get this error: "To save a document as PDF file, a postscript printer must be set up to print to a file." Now, I have tried everything! In Quark I do not get an option to "check" Print to File, like I do in Microsoft Word, Microsoft Outlook, etc., etc. It is simply not there. However, I did use Quark on our Mac and it allowed me to save my Quark PDF in a blink of an eye! Do I just not get Quark's new 4.0 version? Or is Microsoft to blame. I wanted to see if anyone had some insight before I go saving EACH page as an EPS and then distilling it to pdf. Thank you all! Chris __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 27-Oct-1998 23:23:59-GMT,3643;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA12900 for ; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 16:23:58 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA28869; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 16:57:56 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 27 Oct 1998 16:56:11 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA28778; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 16:56:09 -0600 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19981027225619.00d92cb4@env-sol.com> X-Sender: thiersch@env-sol.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 14:56:19 -0800 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Tom Thiersch Subject: Re: [PDF] Exporting pdf in PC Quark 4.04 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== I recommend that you create a new PS 'logical' printer (use any brand/model you like that supports the PS and other features you need), and set its port connection to "FILE:" instead of to "LPT1:" Do *not* select 'Print to file' when using this new printer. Select the new printer from within any Windows program whenever you want to create a PS file; when you print, you will be prompted to supply the name of the output file. I usually tell it to place the output file in the IN folder of a Distiller-watched folder set, so that the PDF will be produced automatically. I don't have any personal experience with Quark, but using a printer that's set up like this sounds like it should meet Quark's requirement: "a postscript printer must be set up to print to a file." HTH Tom Thiersch At 03:50 PM 10/27/98 -0600, you wrote: > >====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > >Hi Everyone! > >Okay, so my question is PDF related, but specifically it is a Windows >glitch that is driving me nuts! We have Exchange for the PC and the Mac >here. I'm trying to save a document on my PC through Quark's new >Utilities option to Save As PDF and I get this error: > >"To save a document as PDF file, a postscript printer must be set up to >print to a file." > >Now, I have tried everything! In Quark I do not get an option to "check" >Print to File, like I do in Microsoft Word, Microsoft Outlook, etc., >etc. It is simply not there. However, I did use Quark on our Mac and it >allowed me to save my Quark PDF in a blink of an eye! > >Do I just not get Quark's new 4.0 version? Or is Microsoft to blame. I >wanted to see if anyone had some insight before I go saving EACH page as >an EPS and then distilling it to pdf. > >Thank you all! >Chris > >__________________________________________________________ > >-> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- >*** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** >+ For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + >__________________________________________________________ > > __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 27-Oct-1998 23:37:37-GMT,2308;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA13275 for ; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 16:37:36 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA29435; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 17:06:54 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 27 Oct 1998 17:05:25 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA29374; Tue, 27 Oct 1998 17:05:24 -0600 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Exporting pdf in PC Quark 4.04 Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 22:55:02 -0000 Message-ID: <000a01be01fd$eee6a840$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <97790B563888D111B69F0000F81F7BF847F679@PRIORIS> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > > Now, I have tried everything! In Quark I do not get an option > to "check" > Print to File, like I do in Microsoft Word, Microsoft Outlook, etc., > etc. It is simply not there. However, I did use Quark on our > Mac and it > allowed me to save my Quark PDF in a blink of an eye! With any application that does not offer a "print to file" option, there is a simple alternative. Assuming you're in Windows 95/98/NT4 go to the printers control panel and select Properties for the printer. Select Details and change the port to be "FILE:". Aandi __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 28-Oct-1998 11:10:33-GMT,2800;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA26854 for ; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 04:10:32 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA27523; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 04:41:51 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 28 Oct 1998 04:29:32 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA26987; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 04:29:30 -0600 Message-ID: <36378CE4.434C1F26@realworld.com.au> Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 20:30:27 +0000 From: Dean Laffan X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "pdf@lists.pdfzone.com" Subject: [PDF] workflow suggestions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Hi All I am looking for suggestions for the following requirements, since our background is graphic design rather than workflow related... Our client has to compile a daily collection of news clippings of their company and send it via internal email to all their execs aound the country (about 45 seperate mails) The source material can be B&W photocopies of the actual newspaper or emails of text from a story (Reuters feed). No colour required. At the moment they scan them on a flatbed and insert them into PowerPoint and then mail the ppt file (About 8MB !) since thay are not scanning savvy, they need instructions for optimizing their scans Question is... is Acrobat the best delivery wehicle or is there a better solution ? They do want to be able to print them at the different sites. Is it a better idea to send an email with embeded URL's with Links back to byte served PDF's (Yes their server supports bytserving) Since we have never done this type of work, I would appreciate any suggestions on optimal settings for scanning B&W images and best method of compression for newspaper clippings. Their environment is Win '95 TIA Dean Laffan Real World Productions __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 28-Oct-1998 11:51:30-GMT,1547;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA27514 for ; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 04:51:29 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA29666; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 05:30:43 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 28 Oct 1998 05:25:41 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA29412; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 05:25:40 -0600 From: FredG56077@aol.com Message-ID: <1b9a6eb.3636ff02@aol.com> Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 06:24:50 EST To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [PDF] workflow suggestions Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 18 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== is that real world corp in concord nh __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 28-Oct-1998 14:45:45-GMT,2110;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA00779 for ; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 07:45:39 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA05520; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 08:24:08 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 28 Oct 1998 08:21:30 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA05312; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 08:21:27 -0600 X-Lotus-FromDomain: KEYCORP From: "Karen L Mibus" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <852566AB.004E026C.00@keybank.com> Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 09:17:47 -0500 Subject: [PDF] White Flash Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Sometime ago, someone asked on this list why an Acrobat form field creates a "white flash" on the screen. That person was advised to select a background color for the field. I have selected a gray background for the text field. I designed an Acrobat game using the forms tool. As each page appears, the hidden fields (some using Show/Hide action, others programmed as hidden fields) cause a white flash before disappearing. This flash is annoying to those using the game. Does anyone have any suggestions as to how to prevent this problem? Adobe personnel who read this list: Are you aware of this problem? --Karen __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 28-Oct-1998 15:06:36-GMT,2626;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA01279 for ; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 08:06:35 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA06748; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 08:38:37 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 28 Oct 1998 08:36:18 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA06508; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 08:36:17 -0600 Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 09:35:29 -0500 From: Michael Vorel Subject: [PDF] workflow suggestions To: "INTERNET:pdf@lists.pdfzone.com" Message-ID: <199810280936_MC2-5E53-4A44@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id IAA06501 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Message text written by INTERNET:pdf@lists.pdfzone.com >The source material can be B&W photocopies of the actual newspaper or emails of text from a story (Reuters feed). No colour required. At the moment they scan them on a flatbed and insert them into PowerPoint and then mail the ppt file (About 8MB !) since thay are not scanning savvy, they need instructions for optimizing their scans Question is... is Acrobat the best delivery wehicle or is there a better solution ? They do want to be able to print them at the different sites. Is it a better idea to send an email with embeded URL's with Links back to byte served PDF's (Yes their server supports bytserving)< Adobe Capture and Acrobat Exchange will provide simple off-the-shelf processing of the paper documents.... Delivery and accessability will be determined by the Exec's.... Do they always want to be online to view, print and forward or is there a need to be independent of network services? michael __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 28-Oct-1998 16:16:32-GMT,2265;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA02988 for ; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 09:15:59 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA11205; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 09:41:30 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 28 Oct 1998 09:38:48 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA10904; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 09:38:46 -0600 Subject: [PDF] Hitting a plugin/xtension limit? Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 09:39:13 -0700 x-sender: dennisw@mail.inpractice.net x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: Dennis Walker To: "PDF Mail List" , "PDF-Prepress Mail List" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-ID: <1302558552-154672604@mail.inpractice.net> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== OK this is a strange one, and it just cropped up on my Mac 8600 running MacOS 8.1 (256MB RAM). If I launch QuarkXPress 3.32 first, then launch Exchange 3.0.1, the plugins for Exchange error when trying to load. If I launch Exchange first, all plugins load fine; then when launching Quark many xtensions error when trying to load and become disabled. Does anyone know why this may be happening? Thanks. (p.s. sorry for the dupe if you're on both lists.) Dennis Walker dennisw@inpractice.net EVP/Production Mgr. 435-647-9910 InPractice Publications, Inc. 435-647-5927 fax __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 28-Oct-1998 16:29:14-GMT,1938;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA03355 for ; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 09:28:47 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA13449; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 10:14:04 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 28 Oct 1998 10:11:46 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA13263; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 10:11:44 -0600 Message-ID: <01BE026B.D4D6DD80.masonc@anguillanet.com> From: Chris Mason To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] workflow suggestions Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 10:53:38 -0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== What are the options for printing four colour seperations form PDF files. My printers tells me they don't have a Postscript level 3 RIPO so they cannot handle my job as a PDF. I am sure there is an easy way to handle this. Chris Mason Box 340, The Valley, Anguilla, British West Indies http://net.ai Tel: 264 497 5670 Fax: 264 497 8463 IKVGwx __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 28-Oct-1998 17:08:10-GMT,2065;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA04521 for ; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 10:08:04 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA15734; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 10:48:10 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 28 Oct 1998 10:44:53 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA15509; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 10:44:51 -0600 X-Lotus-FromDomain: KEYCORP From: "Karen L Mibus" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <852566AB.00561340.00@keybank.com> Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 10:46:40 -0500 Subject: [PDF] Keywords Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== When I add keywords to a PDF file and then try to search on those words, some keywords will not display the PDF file in the search results list. It looks as if keywords that are longer than 9 characters do not work. Has anyone else had this problem? Is the problem dependent on what search engine is used? I'm testing the keyword search on a Windows NT server, a Microsoft Internet Information Server with Service Pack 3.0. Also, the byteserving feature is not working on this server despite Adobe's byteserving page claim that it should work with 3.0. Any ideas? --Karen __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 28-Oct-1998 17:08:32-GMT,1781;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA04526 for ; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 10:08:26 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA16376; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 10:57:27 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 28 Oct 1998 10:55:03 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA16116; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 10:55:01 -0600 From: BADzign@aol.com Message-ID: <800bdf64.36374c51@aol.com> Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 11:54:41 EST To: PDF@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: [PDF] PDF that turns to text only Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Mac sub 82 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== I am sending a PDF via e-mail. When it goes to the company's server and the e- mail is disbursed in the morning hours, the file becomes text only and the graphic I include can not be seen. Does anyone know why this would happen, and possibly have any suggestions to correct it. __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 28-Oct-1998 17:13:27-GMT,2274;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA04674 for ; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 10:13:26 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA16637; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 11:00:23 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 28 Oct 1998 10:58:12 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA16432; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 10:58:08 -0600 Message-ID: <36374D5C.4432B612@agora.stm.it> Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 17:59:08 +0100 From: Luigi Canali De Rossi Organization: IKONOS Multimedia X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] PDF to HTML X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Dear friends, a client of our has requested us to analyze the possible alternatives to bring all the PDF file of a CD-ROM to the Web. Within that project there are all Acrobat/PDF docs, some of which are essentially text-based, while other are more layout- rich and completed by images and diagrams What are your preferred solutions to suggest to our client? Have you run in this implementation before? Can anyone suggest some good pointers to some content that is PDF-byteserved? We would like to demonstrate the effectiveness of such solution versus converting large catalogue of PDF content into HTML. We would strongly appreciate even a brief feedback. IKONOS Simone Morini __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 28-Oct-1998 17:22:11-GMT,2439;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA04941 for ; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 10:22:10 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA17142; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 11:06:17 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 28 Oct 1998 11:04:12 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA16958; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 11:04:11 -0600 Message-ID: From: Thomas Quine To: "'PDF List'" Subject: [PDF] Optimize PDF for print or monitor? Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 08:56:07 -0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Should I optimize the appearance of my PDF files for print or for the monitor? My technical writing department produces about ten manuals, which we distribute in PDF format. Our customers are mainly technically and computer literate, and have let us know they prefer documents in this format. We will be asking them to participate in a formal evaluation in a few months from now. Our manuals right now are set up to look nice and read easily when printed. But they're hell to read online - the type's too small, the pages are portrait and the monitor is landscape, and so on. My inclination is to optimize them for the screen, since I think our users will be reading them mainly on-screen. Can anyone give me good advice on this issue? Is anyone aware of a serious study on how people use PDFs? Do people bother to print them out? Or do they just read them on-screen? - Thom __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 28-Oct-1998 17:26:37-GMT,2152;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA05082 for ; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 10:26:30 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA17713; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 11:11:05 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 28 Oct 1998 11:09:16 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA17478; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 11:09:13 -0600 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Hitting a plugin/xtension limit? Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 16:06:44 -0000 Message-ID: <000e01be0295$558f7440$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <1302558552-154672604@mail.inpractice.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > OK this is a strange one, and it just cropped up on my Mac > 8600 running > MacOS 8.1 (256MB RAM). If I launch QuarkXPress 3.32 first, > then launch > Exchange 3.0.1, the plugins for Exchange error when trying to > load. If I > launch Exchange first, all plugins load fine; then when > launching Quark > many xtensions error when trying to load and become disabled. Define "error". Aandi __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 28-Oct-1998 17:30:15-GMT,1824;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA05128 for ; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 10:29:52 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA18015; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 11:13:54 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 28 Oct 1998 11:12:05 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA17779; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 11:12:01 -0600 Message-ID: <617829F216CED011966000805F59E073017FC689@exchptc1.switch.com> From: "Huston, Virgil H." To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Optimize PDF for print or monitor? Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 12:11:16 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== You need to ask your customers this question. Find out how they use PDFs. Another alternative is to reformat so the manuals look good onscreen and printed out. Virgil > Should I optimize the appearance of my PDF files for print or for the > monitor? > __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 28-Oct-1998 17:47:39-GMT,2858;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA05595 for ; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 10:47:37 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA19534; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 11:29:31 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 28 Oct 1998 11:27:49 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA19337; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 11:27:47 -0600 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Optimize PDF for print or monitor? Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 17:25:05 -0000 Message-ID: <000f01be0297$ed7d9460$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > Should I optimize the appearance of my PDF files for print or for the > monitor? Must you pick? For instance, the manuals for Quite Imposing are made in FrameMaker, and by importing a master style I can generate the printable manual (with all black text on white paper, links read "see xxxx on page yyy", page numbers and a traditional TOC); or I can generate the interactive manual ( with a coloured border, links read just "xxxx" but are coloured and hyperlinked, TOC is formatted into a jazzy front page). I don't believe I change the font or page size but that would be easy too. There are one or two changes to be made by hand to ensure pages still fit their layout. We distribute a printed copy with the product and install the interactive copy to disk, but make the printed PDF available to users too, so they can print their own manual (especially if purchasing electronically). Generating the set of four manuals (two variants for each of two products) takes about half an hour. You can see the result on http://www.quite.com/imposing/manuals.htm. Aandi __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 28-Oct-1998 17:54:24-GMT,4257;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA05746 for ; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 10:54:23 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA19010; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 11:24:58 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 28 Oct 1998 11:22:52 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA18782; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 11:22:50 -0600 From: "Stan Glenn" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Optimize PDF for print or monitor? Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 09:23:23 -0800 Message-ID: <000201be0297$aa771240$8e5c96d1@sglenn.cbspayroll.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Thomas...Interestingly, I'm on the same quest as you are...only we haven't made any decisions yet. We currently have all our technical documentation online in HTML format, and are studying the possibility of using PDFs to do it better. We, like you, have a number of clients who prefer to read the documents online, and a number who prefer to print. I've been looking at a lot of PDF documents online lately, and sometimes the online view isn't very good, while other times it looks ok. But, we're in the same boat...we need both good online viewing as well as clean print for those who choose to do it that way. If you want, I'll keep you updated on what we find...and could you do the same?...LEt me know as you get replies to your question..just forward them on to me. This way, perhaps we can help each other. Thanks. Stan Glenn/CBS Employer Services/San Bernardino, California. sglenn@cbspayroll.com > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com [mailto:owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com]On > Behalf Of Thomas Quine > Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 1998 8:56 AM > To: 'PDF List' > Subject: [PDF] Optimize PDF for print or monitor? > > > > ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > > Should I optimize the appearance of my PDF files for print or for the > monitor? > My technical writing department produces about ten manuals, which we > distribute in PDF format. > Our customers are mainly technically and computer literate, and > have let us > know they prefer documents in this format. We will be asking them to > participate in a formal evaluation in a few months from now. > Our manuals right now are set up to look nice and read easily > when printed. > But they're hell to read online - the type's too small, the pages are > portrait and the monitor is landscape, and so on. > My inclination is to optimize them for the screen, since I think > our users > will be reading them mainly on-screen. > Can anyone give me good advice on this issue? > Is anyone aware of a serious study on how people use PDFs? Do > people bother > to print them out? Or do they just read them on-screen? > - Thom > > > __________________________________________________________ > > -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- > *** Sponsorship & Advt. 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Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 28-Oct-1998 17:56:59-GMT,2736;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA05794 for ; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 10:56:26 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA19722; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 11:31:17 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 28 Oct 1998 11:29:42 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA19566; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 11:29:41 -0600 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com cc: PDF-Prepress Mail List Subject: Re: [PDF] Hitting a plugin/xtension limit? In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 28 Oct 1998 09:39:13 MST." <1302558552-154672604@mail.inpractice.net> Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 17:29:29 +0000 Message-ID: <20800.909595769@isode.com> From: Chris Ridd Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== On Wed, 28 Oct 1998 09:39:13 MST, Dennis Walker wrote: > OK this is a strange one, and it just cropped up on my Mac 8600 running > MacOS 8.1 (256MB RAM). If I launch QuarkXPress 3.32 first, then launch > Exchange 3.0.1, the plugins for Exchange error when trying to load. If I > launch Exchange first, all plugins load fine; then when launching Quark > many xtensions error when trying to load and become disabled. > > Does anyone know why this may be happening? Thanks. > > (p.s. sorry for the dupe if you're on both lists.) > > Dennis Walker dennisw@inpractice.net > EVP/Production Mgr. 435-647-9910 > InPractice Publications, Inc. 435-647-5927 fax There is a limit to the number of files that can be kept open simultaneously by the MacOS and you may simply be hitting this limit. The hard limit is 342 for the entire machine, although you can also get into situations where the limit is lower. You may save some 'open' files by collecting some fonts together into a suitcase, as MacOS only needs to keep the one file open (the suitcase) instead of many (one for each font.) Chris __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 28-Oct-1998 18:08:48-GMT,1922;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA06108 for ; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 11:06:54 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA21001; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 11:42:51 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 28 Oct 1998 11:41:01 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA20748; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 11:40:59 -0600 Message-ID: <009401be0299$ed801a80$410d9fcf@default> From: "Jim and Marguerite Ripley" To: Subject: [PDF] PRINTING ODD/EVEN PCL Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 08:21:58 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2120.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2120.0 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Probably an elementary question answered before, so beg pardon please. Is there a plugin which allows odd/even (double sided) printing to a PCL (HP LJ5L)? Jim Ripley 50 Rancho del Sol Camino, California 95709 USA Vox 530.644.8078 Fax 530.644.6932 jripley@ns.net __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 28-Oct-1998 18:39:09-GMT,2095;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA06977 for ; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 11:39:08 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA25799; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 12:21:17 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 28 Oct 1998 12:19:57 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA25656; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 12:19:55 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 18:23 +0000 (GMT Standard Time) From: paul@completepicture.co.uk (Paul Dennis) Subject: Re: [PDF] Optimise PDF for print or monitor? To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com CC: paul@completepicture.co.uk In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== We have produced a number of catalogues on CD. The simple answer is you have to suit the screen because the users can still print and read them (they just use more paper). If you don't they cant be used effectively on screen. The better the screen version the less people will print. Go for it Paul Dennis Complete Picture 101 Coppergate House 16 Brune St London E1 7NJ Tel. +44 (0)171 721 7766 Fax. +44 (0)171 721 7984 Email paul@completepicture.co.uk __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 28-Oct-1998 18:39:03-GMT,2941;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA06962 for ; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 11:38:57 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA25264; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 12:14:38 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 28 Oct 1998 12:11:59 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA24986; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 12:11:57 -0600 X-Sender: eathomas@mailgw.netobjective.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.1 Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 12:10:03 -0600 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: eathomas@dbits.com (Eric Thomas) Subject: [PDF] Word 97, Doc-To-Help, Acrobat 3.01, Distiller, and Screenshots In-Reply-To: <39A92A42.FED2F336@rugged.com> References: <000101bdce99$638c5020$0101c6c0@gateway> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Message-ID: <19981028181111.AAA20331@Amanaman> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Hi all. It's time for me to revisit a problem I had many months ago with documentation I've been writing. I'm trying to get my documents converted to PDF. Unfortunately, they are loaded with large, detailed screenshots. Imagine the text in an e-mail mailbox queue with lots of messages and double the amount of text. Those are my images. Anyway, I use Word 97 with Doc-To-Help. I take my screenshots using the built-in screen/window grab in Windows. I then take them to Paint Shop Pro to crop them. Then I cut and paste them into Word and let Doc-To-Help scale them to fit in the space. When I print via Word on our HP LaserJet 5p, everything comes out beautiful. However, if I distill the document, my images get mangled beyond belief. They're unreadable onscreen and when I print. I'd really like to get to the point where I include PDF files on the CD instead of Word 97 docs. Does anyone have a suggestion that doesn't involve moving out of Word (which is not an option)? Thanks. -Eric --------------------------------------------------------------- Eric A. Thomas eathomas@dbits.com http://www.dbits.com E-mail overload? Your customers expect ResponseNow! --------------------------------------------------------------- __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 28-Oct-1998 19:36:21-GMT,3878;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA08473 for ; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 12:36:07 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA29745; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 13:05:35 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 28 Oct 1998 13:03:27 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA29543; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 13:03:26 -0600 Message-ID: <36374CBE.6C9DFECC@glyphica.com> Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 10:56:30 -0600 From: amanda taylor X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] workflow suggestions References: <36378CE4.434C1F26@realworld.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Dean, I don't know if this would be of interest, but it's definitely worth checking out and can serve as a long-term solution for your client. The articles are "Portalware," and "The Buzz on Portals." The url is www.purepdf.com. Amanda Dean Laffan wrote: > ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > > Hi All > > I am looking for suggestions for the following requirements, since our > background is graphic design rather than workflow related... > > Our client has to compile a daily collection of news clippings of their > company and send it via internal email to all their execs aound the > country (about 45 seperate mails) > > The source material can be B&W photocopies of the actual newspaper or > emails of text from a story (Reuters feed). No colour required. > > At the moment they scan them on a flatbed and insert them into > PowerPoint and then mail the ppt file (About 8MB !) since thay are not > scanning savvy, they need instructions for optimizing their scans > > Question is... is Acrobat the best delivery wehicle or is there a better > solution ? They do want to be able to print them at the different sites. > > Is it a better idea to send an email with embeded URL's with Links back > to byte served PDF's (Yes their server supports bytserving) > > Since we have never done this type of work, I would appreciate any > suggestions on optimal settings for scanning B&W images and best method > of compression for newspaper clippings. > > Their environment is Win '95 > > TIA > > Dean Laffan > Real World Productions > > __________________________________________________________ > > -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- > *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** > + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + > __________________________________________________________ -- Amanda Taylor Marketing Programs Manager amanda@glyphica.com ................................................. 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Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 28-Oct-1998 21:04:53-GMT,2360;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA10928 for ; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 14:04:52 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA05328; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 14:48:28 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 28 Oct 1998 14:46:43 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA05093; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 14:46:41 -0600 Message-ID: <011901be02b3$df407ea0$410d9fcf@default> From: "Jim and Marguerite Ripley" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] workflow suggestions Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 10:44:43 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2120.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2120.0 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== >>The source material can be B&W photocopies of the actual newspaper or >emails of text from a story (Reuters feed). No colour required. > >At the moment they scan them on a flatbed and insert them into >PowerPoint and then mail the ppt file (About 8MB !) since thay are not >scanning savvy, they need instructions for optimizing their scans > If content is all that is needed why not capture articles and drastically reduce the PDF file size? I have found that imported into Exchange, 100 8.5x11 pages of good quality tiff's produce files of 5-8 MB in size. Capture could reduce this to less than 500KB Although, B&W photocopies of actual newspapers may not provide good enough copies to OCR. __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 28-Oct-1998 21:04:57-GMT,3570;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA10933 for ; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 14:04:56 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA04993; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 14:45:10 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 28 Oct 1998 14:42:46 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA04749; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 14:42:44 -0600 Message-ID: <36378067.56DE64DA@glyphica.com> Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 12:36:55 -0800 From: Margret Meyer Organization: Glyphica X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF to HTML References: <36374D5C.4432B612@agora.stm.it> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------4E66994D1E7DF1FAAACA7704" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------4E66994D1E7DF1FAAACA7704 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Check out http://www.aafla.org/OlympicInformationCenter/OfficialReports.htm They have olympic books published in pdf that are large in size, but take advantage of byte serving for the convenience of the end user. Luigi Canali De Rossi wrote: > ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > > Dear friends, > > a client of our has requested us to analyze the possible > alternatives to bring all the PDF file of a CD-ROM to the Web. > > Within that project there are all Acrobat/PDF docs, some of which are > essentially text-based, while other are more layout- rich and completed > by images and diagrams > > What are your preferred solutions to suggest to our client? > > Have you run in this implementation before? > > Can anyone suggest some good pointers > to some content that is PDF-byteserved? > > We would like to demonstrate the effectiveness of such solution > versus converting large catalogue of PDF content into HTML. > > We would strongly appreciate even a brief feedback. > > IKONOS > Simone Morini > > __________________________________________________________ > > -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- > *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** > + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + > __________________________________________________________ --------------4E66994D1E7DF1FAAACA7704 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="margret.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Margret Meyer Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="margret.vcf" begin:vcard n:Meyer;Margret x-mozilla-html:FALSE adr:;;;;;; version:2.1 email;internet:margret@glyphica.com x-mozilla-cpt:;25840 fn:Margret Meyer end:vcard --------------4E66994D1E7DF1FAAACA7704-- __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 28-Oct-1998 21:05:33-GMT,2424;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA10963 for ; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 14:05:30 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA05142; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 14:46:56 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 28 Oct 1998 14:45:12 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA04989; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 14:45:10 -0600 Message-ID: <01BE028A.93B975A0.mastephenson@syrres.com> From: mastephenson@syrres.com (mark stephenson) To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] How to's: Excel and Capture Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 15:49:39 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== I used Capture's feature to detect orientation with good results, when OCR'ing thousands of pages: dbl-click the 'process' button, and select any orientation that could apply. I mistakenly thought at first it was a single-select dialog, and that I needed to manually (perhaps) rotate all TIFF's N-S, but when I correctly used this feature it seemed to reliably figure the correct oritentation for me. good luck, Mark > And secondly, is it correct behavior in Capture (2.01) that all TIF > images must be rotated "North-South" for OCR to take place? I have a > document set that involves turn pages, and it's appearing to be > necessary to use a TIF editor to Rotate the image before it is sent to > PDF. Mark Stephenson SoftWare Engineer Syracuse Research Corporation (315) 452-8305 mastephenson@syrres.com __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 28-Oct-1998 21:13:28-GMT,2203;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA11157 for ; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 14:13:13 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA06176; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 14:59:14 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 28 Oct 1998 14:57:17 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA06016; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 14:57:14 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19981028160719.00915cd0@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 16:07:19 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] Optimize PDF for print or monitor? In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Since you seem to have a pretty close relationship with your users, why not poll them to see which they'd prefer? In the event that they'd rather have docs formatted for screen, you can explain how to print them 2 or 4 up, at least to PS printers, for those who still prefer hardcopy. At 08:56 AM 10/28/98 -0800, you wrote: > >====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > >Should I optimize the appearance of my PDF files for print or for the >monitor? Steve Rindsberg/Prez RDP http://www.rdpslides.com __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 28-Oct-1998 21:30:42-GMT,2896;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA11537 for ; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 14:30:37 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA07320; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 15:12:29 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 28 Oct 1998 15:10:12 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA07120; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 15:10:07 -0600 X-Lotus-FromDomain: KEYCORP From: "Karen L Mibus" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <852566AB.006838DD.00@keybank.com> Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 14:12:05 -0500 Subject: Re: [PDF] Optimize PDF for print or monitor? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Thom wrote: My inclination is to optimize them for the screen, since I think our users will be reading them mainly on-screen. Can anyone give me good advice on this issue? Is anyone aware of a serious study on how people use PDFs? Do people bother to print them out? Or do they just read them on-screen? We have grappled with the same issue, and we determined that if the document will be primarily viewed online, design it for online. Other documents need to be available online for hard copy use; we leave the design for hard copy and distribute the PDF file online. In addition to making distinctions between how PDF documents will be used and their subsequent design, we make available to our clients a quick reference card describing how to use Acrobat Reader. We include information on how to use the zoom tools so that small fonts can be enlarged for easy viewing. I, too, would like to see a "serious" study on how people use PDF; however, most PDF files are hard copy documents that were distilled into PDF. I think the most helpful studies are those on using online help, since a large number of features and reading approaches for using online help pertain to PDF documents. William Horton's book on developing online documentation includes the results and analysis of such studies. His suggestions seem applicable for PDF files. --Karen __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 28-Oct-1998 21:43:17-GMT,5137;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA11864 for ; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 14:43:16 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA08351; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 15:28:56 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 28 Oct 1998 15:27:27 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA08264; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 15:27:25 -0600 Message-ID: <01BE0277.28AAD280.jmaechtlen@amada.com> From: jmaechtlen@amada.com (Jay Maechtlen) To: "'PDF List'" Subject: [PDF] US Acrobat vs. AcrobatJ Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 13:30:40 -0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 X-MS-Attachment: WINMAIL.DAT 0 00-00-1980 00:00 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== We would like to exchange documents with our home office (corporate lords and masters) in Japan from here in the USA. It seems that they can read our PDF files just fine, but there's a big problem with Japanese and Acrobat. Namely: only AcrobatJ (Japanese) can handle the character set(s?) necessary. Unfortunately, AcrobatJ seems to require Windows95J or '98J. For a gringo to run a machine with Win95J is somewhere between purgatory and impossible, I think. Suggestions? How can our Japan office create documents that we (I) can at least print and use? (at least for sending to translate into English...) 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Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 28-Oct-1998 22:21:48-GMT,2025;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA12811 for ; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 15:21:38 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA10580; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 16:01:13 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 28 Oct 1998 15:59:28 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA10428; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 15:59:27 -0600 Message-ID: <014501be02ba$d38da2c0$410d9fcf@default> From: "Jim and Marguerite Ripley" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] Word 97, Doc-To-Help, Acrobat 3.01, Distiller, and Screenshots Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 13:34:31 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2120.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2120.0 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== This may not solve your problem but there is a very interesting article by Olav Maritn Kvern in the Autumn 1998 Adobe Magazine on screen captures. The article is entitled, "Hot Shots". You may pick up some ideas. Jim Ripley 50 Rancho del Sol Camino, California 95709 USA Vox 530.644.8078 Fax 530.644.6932 jripley@ns.net __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 28-Oct-1998 23:12:18-GMT,2625;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA14017 for ; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 16:12:13 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA14167; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 16:51:39 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 28 Oct 1998 16:49:31 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA13973; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 16:49:28 -0600 Subject: RE: [PDF] Hitting a plugin/xtension limit? Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 11:49:41 -0700 x-sender: dennisw@mail.inpractice.net x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: Dennis Walker To: "PDF Mail List" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-ID: <1302550725-155143820@mail.inpractice.net> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Aandi Inston (quite@dial.pipex.com) wrote on 10/28/98 9:06 AM: >> OK this is a strange one, and it just cropped up on my Mac >> 8600 running >> MacOS 8.1 (256MB RAM). If I launch QuarkXPress 3.32 first, >> then launch >> Exchange 3.0.1, the plugins for Exchange error when trying to >> load. If I >> launch Exchange first, all plugins load fine; then when >> launching Quark >> many xtensions error when trying to load and become disabled. > >Define "error". Well, if I launch Quark first, then launch Exchange, I get the following message for each plug-in: "There was an error while loading the plug-in 'ExecMenu'. There was a Macintosh system error (-42)." (For some plug-ins the error number is (-2804). Another one that is displayed is: "There was an error while loading the plug-in 'TouchUp'. The plugin failed to initialize." Any help would be appreciated. Dennis Walker dennisw@inpractice.net EVP/Production Mgr. 435-647-9910 InPractice Publications, Inc. 435-647-5927 fax __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 28-Oct-1998 23:48:34-GMT,1939;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA14922 for ; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 16:48:33 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA17018; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 17:34:21 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 28 Oct 1998 17:32:58 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA16842; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 17:32:56 -0600 From: "ian joslin" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF that turns to text only Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 23:33:05 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Message-ID: <0ec804532231ca8UPIMSSMTPUSR05@email.msn.com> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Just a thought - have you checked you mail preferences to the receiver? -----Original Message----- From: BADzign@aol.com To: PDF@lists.pdfzone.com Date: 28 October 1998 17:00 Subject: [PDF] PDF that turns to text only >I am sending a PDF via e-mail >the file becomes text only and the >graphic I include can not be seen __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 28-Oct-1998 23:48:41-GMT,3371;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA14932 for ; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 16:48:39 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA16650; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 17:31:03 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 28 Oct 1998 17:29:10 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA16472; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 17:29:08 -0600 X-Sender: prodok@pop.eunet.ch Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <36374D5C.4432B612@agora.stm.it> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 00:05:37 +0100 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Max Wyss Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF to HTML Cc: Luigi Canali De Rossi Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Simone, as you already have the documents in PDF format, there is very little reason why not to stay with PDF. There are of course some conditions which must be fulfilled that you can bring your CD-ROM to the web server as is. The main condition is that all links must be relative (in other words, no links specifying the drive and the whole directory tree). The second condition is that your PDF files should be optimized (either Batch Optimized with Exchange, or Saved as.. with Optimizing switched on. Then, the server must be enabled for byteserving. Also, the user's configuration must be set up correctly, in order to make byteserving work properly. In particular, the option to download a document in the background (in the General Preferences) must be switched OFF. Hope, this can help. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering AG Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch WWW: http://www.prodok.ch/prodok Bridging the Knowledge Gap ______________________ >Dear friends, > >a client of our has requested us to analyze the possible >alternatives to bring all the PDF file of a CD-ROM to the Web. > >Within that project there are all Acrobat/PDF docs, some of which are >essentially text-based, while other are more layout- rich and completed >by images and diagrams > >What are your preferred solutions to suggest to our client? > >Have you run in this implementation before? > >Can anyone suggest some good pointers >to some content that is PDF-byteserved? > >We would like to demonstrate the effectiveness of such solution >versus converting large catalogue of PDF content into HTML. > >We would strongly appreciate even a brief feedback. > > >IKONOS >Simone Morini __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 28-Oct-1998 23:48:47-GMT,2874;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA14937 for ; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 16:48:41 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA16653; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 17:31:03 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 28 Oct 1998 17:29:13 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA16497; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 17:29:12 -0600 X-Sender: prodok@pop.eunet.ch Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <01BE0277.28AAD280.jmaechtlen@amada.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 00:28:47 +0100 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Max Wyss Subject: Re: [PDF] US Acrobat vs. AcrobatJ Cc: jmaechtlen@amada.com (Jay Maechtlen) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Jay, If I am not too wrong, it could be worthwile getting a Mac (even a simple IMac should do) and run JLK (Japanese Language Kit). Then, you should be able to display the Japanese fonts. Hope, this can help. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering AG Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch WWW: http://www.prodok.ch/prodok Bridging the Knowledge Gap PS. PLEASE do not send any attachments or WINMAIL.DAT junk in messages to mailing lists. ______________________ >We would like to exchange documents with our home office (corporate lords >and masters) in Japan from here in the USA. >It seems that they can read our PDF files just fine, but there's a big >problem with Japanese and Acrobat. >Namely: only AcrobatJ (Japanese) can handle the character set(s?) >necessary. Unfortunately, AcrobatJ seems to require Windows95J or '98J. >For a gringo to run a machine with Win95J is somewhere between purgatory >and impossible, I think. >Suggestions? >How can our Japan office create documents that we (I) can at least print >and use? >(at least for sending to translate into English...) >"documents" meaning (a) text with illustrations and (b) drawings with captions >TIA __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 28-Oct-1998 23:49:05-GMT,1947;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA14944 for ; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 16:48:48 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA16660; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 17:31:05 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 28 Oct 1998 17:29:31 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA16524; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 17:29:29 -0600 From: "ian joslin" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] workflow suggestions Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 23:29:43 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Message-ID: <0f08e2529231ca8UPIMSSMTPUSR02@email.msn.com> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Suggest you check out the Crackerjack plug-in. Sorry no info on contacts from my present location. Good luck. -----Original Message----- From: Chris Mason To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' Date: 28 October 1998 16:14 Subject: RE: [PDF] workflow suggestions >What are the options for printing four colour separations from PDF files. __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 28-Oct-1998 23:50:16-GMT,2975;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA14946 for ; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 16:48:58 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA17084; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 17:35:06 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 28 Oct 1998 17:33:46 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA16950; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 17:33:43 -0600 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Hitting a plugin/xtension limit? Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 23:31:05 -0000 Message-ID: <000801be02cb$0bb54bc0$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <1302550725-155143820@mail.inpractice.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > >> OK this is a strange one, and it just cropped up on my Mac > >> 8600 running > >> MacOS 8.1 (256MB RAM). If I launch QuarkXPress 3.32 first, > >> then launch > >> Exchange 3.0.1, the plugins for Exchange error when trying to > >> load. If I > >> launch Exchange first, all plugins load fine; then when > >> launching Quark > >> many xtensions error when trying to load and become disabled. > > > >Define "error". > > Well, if I launch Quark first, then launch Exchange, I get > the following > message for each plug-in: > > "There was an error while loading the plug-in 'ExecMenu'. > There was a Macintosh system error (-42)." I think we are getting closer. -42 is "too many files open". > > (For some plug-ins the error number is (-2804). Which means "library name not found", which is odd. > > Another one that is displayed is: > > "There was an error while loading the plug-in 'TouchUp'. > The plugin failed to initialize." So, you may be hitting some sort of limit. Normally, there is no problem running both Xpress and Acrobat, but perhaps something else is using up open files. Background processes? Hundreds of fonts? Not sure. This may be one for the the Mac experts among us. Aandi __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 29-Oct-1998 0:30:07-GMT,1834;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA15929 for ; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 17:30:06 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA19689; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 18:12:29 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 28 Oct 1998 18:11:05 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA19582; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 18:11:03 -0600 Message-ID: <36383F63.FC5B4A4E@realworld.com.au> Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 11:11:48 +0100 From: Dean Laffan X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] workflow suggestions References: <1b9a6eb.3636ff02@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== FredG56077@aol.com wrote: > ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > > is that real world corp in concord nh Nope. Real World Productions in Melbourne, Australia Dean __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 29-Oct-1998 1:39:27-GMT,2812;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA17378 for ; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 18:39:22 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA22541; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 19:05:26 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 28 Oct 1998 19:03:20 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA22395; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 19:03:18 -0600 Message-ID: <36384BA5.D66E6699@realworld.com.au> Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 12:04:07 +0100 From: Dean Laffan X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] workflow suggestions References: <011901be02b3$df407ea0$410d9fcf@default> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Jim and Marguerite Ripley wrote: > > > > If content is all that is needed why not capture articles and drastically > reduce the PDF file size? > > I have found that imported into Exchange, 100 8.5x11 pages of good quality > tiff's produce files of 5-8 MB in size. Capture could reduce this to less > than 500KB > > Although, B&W photocopies of actual newspapers may not provide good enough > copies to OCR. I should also have mentioned that this is a daily task which needs to be completed prior to midday each day for uploading and distribution. On that basis I am looking for a quick solution with a mimimum of *fiddling* withthe images and as you suggest, photocopied neswpaper prints will need a lot of error correction (I assume). I was thinking of a good scanning process followed by a cutting down of the files to an optimum sixe for on screen, which printed *OK* They are willing to sacrifice a bit of print quality for reduction in file size, since they are internal use only and largely disposable, since thay are replaced each day, although they are archived and backed up as well. Thanks for all suggestions to date. Dean Real World Productions __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 29-Oct-1998 2:14:49-GMT,4173;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA18089 for ; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 19:14:48 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA24927; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 19:58:31 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 28 Oct 1998 19:56:31 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA24801; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 19:56:29 -0600 Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 20:56:06 -0500 From: olaf druemmer Subject: RE: [PDF] Hitting a plugin/xtension limit? To: PDF listserver Message-ID: <199810282056_MC2-5E5C-2C0B@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id TAA24797 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Dennis, that means 'Too many files open'. I have hit this limit (which does not have anything to do with XTensions or plug-ins) various times when I had 10 or more apps open on my Mac, within each app I had ten or so files open... there is a limit to the max number of open files on a Mac though I do not remember exactly what that number is, and if it is possible to influence it. Will have to ask my Mac gurus once I am back home. Best, Olaf Druemmer > > >====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > >Aandi Inston (quite@dial.pipex.com) wrote on 10/28/98 9:06 AM: > >>> OK this is a strange one, and it just cropped up on my Mac >>> 8600 running >>> MacOS 8.1 (256MB RAM). If I launch QuarkXPress 3.32 first, >>> then launch >>> Exchange 3.0.1, the plugins for Exchange error when trying to >>> load. If I >>> launch Exchange first, all plugins load fine; then when >>> launching Quark >>> many xtensions error when trying to load and become disabled. >> >>Define "error". > >Well, if I launch Quark first, then launch Exchange, I get the following >message for each plug-in: > >"There was an error while loading the plug-in 'ExecMenu'. >There was a Macintosh system error (-42)." > >(For some plug-ins the error number is (-2804). > >Another one that is displayed is: > >"There was an error while loading the plug-in 'TouchUp'. >The plugin failed to initialize." > >Any help would be appreciated. > >Dennis Walker dennisw@inpractice.net >EVP/Production Mgr. 435-647-9910 >InPractice Publications, Inc. 435-647-5927 fax > > >__________________________________________________________ > >-> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- >*** Sponsorship & Advt. 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Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 29-Oct-1998 2:15:14-GMT,2650;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA18106 for ; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 19:15:13 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA25666; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 20:06:50 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 28 Oct 1998 20:04:57 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA25524; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 20:04:54 -0600 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199810282056_MC2-5E5C-2C0B@compuserve.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 18:04:47 -0800 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Todd Ruston Subject: RE: [PDF] Hitting a plugin/xtension limit? Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== At 8:56 PM -0500 10/28/98, olaf druemmer wrote: > Dennis, > > that means 'Too many files open'. I have hit this limit (which does not > have anything to do with XTensions or plug-ins) various times when I had > 10 or more apps open on my Mac, within each app I had ten or so files > open... there is a limit to the max number of open files on a Mac though > I do not remember exactly what that number is, and if it is possible to > influence it. Will have to ask my Mac gurus once I am back home. > The limit is 348 files open, and is a limitation regarding how the HFS and HFS+ file systems work. This limit cannot be exceeded, except by a new file system structure which will be coming with MacOS X. To the person experiencing the plug-in problem, I suggest closing a few fonts (if you're using Suitcase or ATM Deluxe), or move some out of your Fonts folder. That's the most likely culprit: a few hundred fonts active. -- Todd Ruston | mailto:truston@libpubinc.com Computer Services Manager | Voice: 323.871.1225 x 3028 Liberation Publications, Inc. | Fax: 323.467.0173 __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 29-Oct-1998 3:07:07-GMT,1906;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA19096 for ; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 20:07:05 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA27665; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 20:49:15 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 28 Oct 1998 20:47:44 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA27557; Wed, 28 Oct 1998 20:47:42 -0600 Message-ID: <3637D725.34A44E0E@fcollins.com.au> Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 13:47:03 +1100 From: Norman McGreevy Organization: Franklin Collins Pty Ltd X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "pdf@lists.pdfzone.com" Subject: [PDF] ScreenCam & PDFs Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== I am attempting to use Lotus ScreenCam to demonstrate the different functions of the PDF. I have found the same problem on all PCs I have tried, namely ScreenCam doesn't seem to like PDFs. I'm getting blank pages and transparent pages. Has anyone else seen or resolved this problem. Regards Norman McGreevy __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 29-Oct-1998 7:00:05-GMT,3224;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA23594 for ; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 00:00:03 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA05705; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 00:45:46 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 29 Oct 1998 00:44:22 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA05585; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 00:44:20 -0600 From: "Chris Bill" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] ScreenCam & PDFs Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 06:43:23 -0000 Message-ID: <000001be0307$6cd4eaa0$af2dfea9@ctbill> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 In-Reply-To: <3637D725.34A44E0E@fcollins.com.au> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Norman, I too have experienced the same. To me, it seemed as though Acrobat was on a different layer of the screen (if there is such a thing). I found that I could screen cam the toolbar and buttons, but anything in the main window did just not appear in the resulting screen cam. I could not resolve this problem, but I did not mention it in this forum before. Perhaps someone else can shed some light on this. I would have liked to have created some sort of tutorial for my customers on how to use the Acrobat Reader more effectively. In hope Chris Bill > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com [mailto:owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com]On > Behalf Of Norman McGreevy > Sent: 29 October 1998 02:47 > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: [PDF] ScreenCam & PDFs > > > > ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > > I am attempting to use Lotus ScreenCam to demonstrate the different > functions of the PDF. I have found the same problem on all PCs I have > tried, namely ScreenCam doesn't seem to like PDFs. I'm getting blank > pages and transparent pages. Has anyone else seen or resolved this > problem. > Regards Norman McGreevy > > > __________________________________________________________ > > -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- > *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** > + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + > __________________________________________________________ > __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 29-Oct-1998 7:00:05-GMT,2962;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA23596 for ; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 00:00:03 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA05501; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 00:42:56 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 29 Oct 1998 00:40:41 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA05423; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 00:40:39 -0600 Message-ID: <36379BAA.7A6B499A@empa.ch> Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 23:33:17 +0100 From: Erwin Widmer Organization: EMPA X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: de-CH, en-US MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] workflow suggestions References: <01BE026B.D4D6DD80.masonc@anguillanet.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Chris, The easy way is you send preseparated PDF files to the printer. Lake that the printer is able to print even from Reader. All he has to control is wether the screen angles are right. On some RIPs the screen angles which are stored in the file are not used what leads to the fact that all colors have the same screen angle. If you send composite CMYK PDF files to your printer he needs a software called Crackerjack and his RIP must be able to do InRIP-Separation. That isn't that easy any more. Erwin Chris Mason wrote: > ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > > What are the options for printing four colour seperations form PDF files. > My printers tells me they don't have a Postscript level 3 RIPO so they > cannot handle my job as a PDF. I am sure there is an easy way to handle > this. > > Chris Mason > Box 340, The Valley, Anguilla, British West Indies > http://net.ai > Tel: 264 497 5670 Fax: 264 497 8463 > IKVGwx > > __________________________________________________________ > > -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- > *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** > + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + > __________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 29-Oct-1998 12:19:53-GMT,2767;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA29856 for ; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 05:19:51 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA18591; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 05:56:40 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 29 Oct 1998 05:51:24 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA18326; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 05:51:22 -0600 From: "David Cornwell" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] ScreenCam & PDFs Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 11:55:11 -0000 Message-ID: <000501be0332$fb3ed640$0441a8c0@davec.docctrl.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <3637D725.34A44E0E@fcollins.com.au> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2120.0 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > I am attempting to use Lotus ScreenCam to demonstrate the different > functions of the PDF. I have found the same problem on all PCs I have > tried, namely ScreenCam doesn't seem to like PDFs. I'm getting blank > pages and transparent pages. Has anyone else seen or resolved this > problem. You need to crank down your display resolution and colours. Yesterday, using Lotus Screen Cam '97, I produced 3 screen cams with a high degree of Acrobat interaction and with no problems what so ever. FYI: my environment is Windows 95, Display is 800x600 and High Colour (16 bit). Those of you lucky enough to be @ Momentum in New Orleans next week will have the opportunity to see the results of my endeavours yourselves ;~) drc --- David Cornwell, Director - Business Development Computerised Document Control Ltd PO Box 5, Chepstow, Monmouthshire, NP6 6YU, United Kingdom Tel: + 44 (0) 1291 635 403 (direct) ; USA: 1-888-240-1752 Fax: + 44 (0) 1291 623 902 www.docctrl.com Forging the link between Document Systems and Acrobat __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 29-Oct-1998 12:29:56-GMT,4034;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA00044 for ; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 05:29:54 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA19084; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 06:04:06 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 29 Oct 1998 06:03:12 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA19011; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 06:03:08 -0600 Message-ID: <3638594F.BB952ECC@fcollins.com.au> Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 23:02:23 +1100 From: Norman McGreevy Organization: Franklin Collins Pty Ltd X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] ScreenCam & PDFs References: <000001be0307$6cd4eaa0$af2dfea9@ctbill> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Chris, Further investigation of this issue (Lotus ScreenCam discussion group) led to one suggested solution: in Acrobat File>Preferences>General delselecting Smooth Text and Monochrome Images allows you to view a PDF presentation in ScreenCam. However, the text and images quality is very poor and I think unacceptable. The good news is Windows NT does not have this incompatibility problem only Win 95. Regards Norman McGreevy Chris Bill wrote: > ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > > Norman, > I too have experienced the same. To me, it seemed as though Acrobat was on > a different layer of the screen (if there is such a thing). I found that I > could screen cam the toolbar and buttons, but anything in the main window > did just not appear in the resulting screen cam. I could not resolve this > problem, but I did not mention it in this forum before. Perhaps someone > else can shed some light on this. I would have liked to have created some > sort of tutorial for my customers on how to use the Acrobat Reader more > effectively. > > In hope > > Chris Bill > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com [mailto:owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com]On > > Behalf Of Norman McGreevy > > Sent: 29 October 1998 02:47 > > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > > Subject: [PDF] ScreenCam & PDFs > > > > > > > > ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > > > > I am attempting to use Lotus ScreenCam to demonstrate the different > > functions of the PDF. I have found the same problem on all PCs I have > > tried, namely ScreenCam doesn't seem to like PDFs. I'm getting blank > > pages and transparent pages. Has anyone else seen or resolved this > > problem. > > Regards Norman McGreevy > > > > > > __________________________________________________________ > > > > -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- > > *** Sponsorship & Advt. 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Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 29-Oct-1998 14:32:35-GMT,7917;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA02406 for ; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 07:32:34 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA25184; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 08:04:40 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 29 Oct 1998 08:02:39 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA25035; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 08:02:37 -0600 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 08:57:08 -0500 From: Robert Jones To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com, prodok@prodok.ch Cc: ikonos.sas@agora.stm.it Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF to HTML Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== There is at least one good reason, which I am currently running up against. Namely, PDF is a high-end technology, and is not as universally accessable as marked-up document would be. I have a largish collection of legacy documents which I need to make accessable to all, and PDF just is not a good solution for that. Right now I'm considering tracking down the original (WordPerfect, mostly) docs and converting them via WP->HTML tools. That's all... just sharing at least one reason not to stay with PDF, and a similar interest in this situation. robt >>> Max Wyss 10/28/98 06:05PM >>> ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Simone, as you already have the documents in PDF format, there is very little reason why not to stay with PDF. There are of course some conditions which must be fulfilled that you can bring your CD-ROM to the web server as is. The main condition is that all links must be relative (in other words, no links specifying the drive and the whole directory tree). The second condition is that your PDF files should be optimized (either Batch Optimized with Exchange, or Saved as.. with Optimizing switched on. Then, the server must be enabled for byteserving. Also, the user's configuration must be set up correctly, in order to make byteserving work properly. In particular, the option to download a document in the background (in the General Preferences) must be switched OFF. Hope, this can help. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering AG Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch WWW: http://www.prodok.ch/prodok Bridging the Knowledge Gap ______________________ >Dear friends, > >a client of our has requested us to analyze the possible >alternatives to bring all the PDF file of a CD-ROM to the Web. > >Within that project there are all Acrobat/PDF docs, some of which are >essentially text-based, while other are more layout- rich and completed >by images and diagrams > >What are your preferred solutions to suggest to our client? > >Have you run in this implementation before? > >Can anyone suggest some good pointers >to some content that is PDF-byteserved? > >We would like to demonstrate the effectiveness of such solution >versus converting large catalogue of PDF content into HTML. > >We would strongly appreciate even a brief feedback. > > >IKONOS >Simone Morini __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. 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Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 29-Oct-1998 16:03:09-GMT,2286;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA04502 for ; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 09:03:08 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA31097; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 09:31:02 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 29 Oct 1998 09:29:29 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA30931; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 09:29:26 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19981029163101.009e2850@ms90.vtex.lt> X-Sender: sarunas@ms90.vtex.lt X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 16:31:01 +0100 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Sarunas Subject: Re: [PDF] FlateDecode filter In-Reply-To: <00ab01bdd294$1cf3e2a0$57f912a8@stupocknee.cpes.peachnet.ed u> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== At 10:56 AM 8/28/98 -0400, you wrote: > >====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== > >This may not be relevant, but distilling a file with decompression >options turned off will produce a PDF with uncompressed >text streams.... > >for a zlib ocx that works with Delphi check: >http://dogma.net/markn/articles/zlibtool/zlibtool.htm > >Stu Hello Stu, some time ago you gave me (on PDF-list) a very usefull pointer to zlib Delphi resource. Do you know any LZW compression/decompression resource for Delphi? Thanks a lot! Sarunas Burdulis Head Electronic Publishing VTEX Ltd. sarunas@vtex.lt +370 2 729609; +370 98 24498 __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 29-Oct-1998 16:04:46-GMT,2378;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA04556 for ; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 09:04:41 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA32240; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 09:44:46 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 29 Oct 1998 09:43:17 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA32124; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 09:43:16 -0600 Subject: RE: [PDF] Hitting a plugin/xtension limit? Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 09:44:32 -0700 x-sender: dennisw@mail.inpractice.net x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: Dennis Walker To: "PDF Mail List" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-ID: <1302471837-3077790@mail.inpractice.net> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== A BIG THANKS to all those who responded to my problem. Sorry it turned out to be an off-topic post. FYI: I always keep an extra hard disk in my PMac to use only for the MacOS and other system resources (another drive houses all my apps and files). I recently upgraded my system drive and formatted it as HFS+. I think this may have something to do with the problem. My previous drive was standard HFS, and I didn't have this trouble even running the same number of fonts, apps., xtensions, plugins, etc. I wonder if the max number of open files came down with HFS+; I would have expected it to go up. Anyway, thanks again. Dennis Walker dennisw@inpractice.net EVP/Production Mgr. 435-647-9910 InPractice Publications, Inc. 435-647-5927 fax __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 29-Oct-1998 16:13:36-GMT,4719;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA04819 for ; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 09:13:20 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA31988; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 09:41:53 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 29 Oct 1998 09:40:19 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA31846; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 09:40:13 -0600 From: peter@originalab.se (Originalab Peter) To: Subject: [PDF] 10 files restriction in Reader Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 16:44:30 +0100 Message-ID: <01be0353$045e7260$0100a8c0@server.algonet.se> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0098_01BE035B.66246100" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Det här är ett multipart-meddelande i MIME-format. ------=_NextPart_000_0098_01BE035B.66246100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi,=20 we are in the process of building a application that formats information = "on the fly" and returns a PDF to the user. The user makes changes and = the changes are reflected in the returned PDF-file. After 10 files = Reader comes upp with a message that to many documents are open and you = have to close down and restart Reader. I know there is a "plug-in" or = similar available for download which will close the "oldest" file to = allow file 11 to open. But.., why is that not a standard in Acrobat = Reader? Is there any reason why it is working that way? Is there any way = around the problem without user interaction? (Getting the "plug-in" or = closing down and restarting Reader?). =20 Peter Reichel Originalab ab peter@originalab.se http://www.originalab.se =20 =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0098_01BE035B.66246100 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,
we are in the process of = building a=20 application that formats information "on the fly" and returns = a PDF to=20 the user. The user makes changes and the changes are reflected in the = returned=20 PDF-file. After 10 files Reader comes upp with a message that to many = documents=20 are open and you have to close down and restart Reader. I know there is = a=20 "plug-in" or similar available for download which will close = the=20 "oldest" file to allow file 11 to open. But.., why is that not = a=20 standard in Acrobat Reader? Is there any reason why it is working that = way? Is=20 there any way around the problem without user interaction? (Getting the=20 "plug-in" or closing down and restarting = Reader?).
 
Peter Reichel
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------=_NextPart_000_0098_01BE035B.66246100-- __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 29-Oct-1998 16:15:30-GMT,9776;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA04853 for ; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 09:15:15 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA00518; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 09:54:10 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 29 Oct 1998 09:52:41 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA00276; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 09:52:39 -0600 Message-ID: <3638901B.EA20413F@glyphica.com> Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 07:56:11 -0800 From: "D. Paknad" Organization: Glyphica X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com CC: prodok@prodok.ch, ikonos.sas@agora.stm.it Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF to HTML References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id JAA00272 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Hi - I would suggest that the accessibility of PDF documents via browsers makes it a highly-accessible format!! Further, if your WP documents have any structure in them at all or are more than two pages long, it will be both more difficult and more expensive to create them as HTML files. Beyond that, maintaining the bizillion or so pages/files you'll end up with will be neither pretty nor fun. (I know this is a religious issue for some, so go easy on me with the flame messages ;~) The 80 million or so Acrobat Readers out there make PDF even more accessible. Many many new PCs arrive with the Reader on it, because most manufacturers ship their documentation in PDF format now. Glyphica has converting hundreds of thousands of legacy documents to both PDF and HTML. A word of caution on tracking down the original files -- diverse authors do not necessarily use good housekeeping practices on their originals. If the document was created for print, you'll often find mismatches between the printed parent and the electronic child (although you would expect the reverse). Glyphica has recently announced a line of products -- Portalware -- which makes it simple and straightforward to publish new and legacy content on the Web. Automatic conversion on the server to PDF is a key feature and the search engine, PDF hit highlighting, and built-in byteserving make PDF a full Web citizen. -Deidre Paknad .......................................................................... Glyphica - Content Management and Production http://www.glyphica.com 650/428-1800 READ THE NEW OCTOBER ISSUE: PurePDF: The Acrobat Info Source on the Web http://www.purePDF.com .......................................................................... Robert Jones wrote: > ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > > There is at least one good reason, which I am currently running up against. Namely, PDF is a high-end technology, and is not as universally accessable as marked-up document would be. I have a largish collection of legacy documents which I need to make accessable to all, and PDF just is not a good solution for that. > > Right now I'm considering tracking down the original (WordPerfect, mostly) docs and converting them via WP->HTML tools. > > That's all... just sharing at least one reason not to stay with PDF, and a similar interest in this situation. > > robt > > >>> Max Wyss 10/28/98 06:05PM >>> > > ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > > Simone, > > as you already have the documents in PDF format, there is very little > reason why not to stay with PDF. There are of course some conditions which > must be fulfilled that you can bring your CD-ROM to the web server as is. > The main condition is that all links must be relative (in other words, no > links specifying the drive and the whole directory tree). > > The second condition is that your PDF files should be optimized (either > Batch Optimized with Exchange, or Saved as.. with Optimizing switched on. > > Then, the server must be enabled for byteserving. > > Also, the user's configuration must be set up correctly, in order to make > byteserving work properly. In particular, the option to download a document > in the background (in the General Preferences) must be switched OFF. > > Hope, this can help. > > Max Wyss > PRODOK Engineering AG > Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing > CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland > > Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 > e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch > WWW: http://www.prodok.ch/prodok > > Bridging the Knowledge Gap > > ______________________ > > >Dear friends, > > > >a client of our has requested us to analyze the possible > >alternatives to bring all the PDF file of a CD-ROM to the Web. > > > >Within that project there are all Acrobat/PDF docs, some of which are > >essentially text-based, while other are more layout- rich and completed > >by images and diagrams > > > >What are your preferred solutions to suggest to our client? > > > >Have you run in this implementation before? > > > >Can anyone suggest some good pointers > >to some content that is PDF-byteserved? > > > >We would like to demonstrate the effectiveness of such solution > >versus converting large catalogue of PDF content into HTML. > > > >We would strongly appreciate even a brief feedback. > > > > > >IKONOS > >Simone Morini > > __________________________________________________________ > > -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- > *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** > + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + > __________________________________________________________ > > ! ! > ! > ! ! > ! > ! ! > ! > > > __________________________________________________________ > > -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- > *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** > + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + > __________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 29-Oct-1998 16:20:19-GMT,2499;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA05052 for ; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 09:20:04 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA01270; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 10:00:43 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 29 Oct 1998 09:59:23 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA01064; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 09:59:21 -0600 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Hitting a plugin/xtension limit? In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 29 Oct 1998 09:44:32 MST." <1302471837-3077790@mail.inpractice.net> Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 15:59:14 +0000 Message-ID: <22887.909676754@isode.com> From: Chris Ridd Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== On Thu, 29 Oct 1998 09:44:32 MST, Dennis Walker wrote: > number of fonts, apps., xtensions, plugins, etc. I wonder if the max > number of open files came down with HFS+; I would have expected it to go > up. > > Anyway, thanks again. > > Dennis Walker dennisw@inpractice.net > EVP/Production Mgr. 435-647-9910 > InPractice Publications, Inc. 435-647-5927 fax It shouldn't be as the limit is memory - every open file requires a bit of memory called an FCB, and there is a fixed size pool of FCBs in the system heap. You can't grow the pool, though it can shrink sometimes. >From Inside Mac:Files - "Each time a file is opened, the File Manager reads that file's catalog entry and builds a file control block (FC) in the FCB buffer... The FCB buffer is a block in the system heap... The maximum size of an expandable FCB buffer is 32,535 bytes, so there is an absolute limit of 342 FCBs in the FCB buffer." Chris __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 29-Oct-1998 16:56:23-GMT,1637;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA05962 for ; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 09:56:21 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA03067; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 10:26:01 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 29 Oct 1998 10:23:55 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA02924; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 10:23:53 -0600 Message-ID: <510B6C2A8380D111997200A0C99DBA2757EC6C@mars.rauland.com> From: "Schiff, Kenny" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] PDF Fine Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 10:21:42 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Anyone use PDF Fine? This program is supposed to fix printing of bitmaps from Acrobat. Curious as to what people's take on this is. __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 29-Oct-1998 17:06:06-GMT,2888;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA06233 for ; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 10:06:01 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA04617; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 10:47:35 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 29 Oct 1998 10:45:30 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA04492; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 10:45:29 -0600 X-ROUTED: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 11:44:40 -0500 X-TCP-IDENTITY: Tonymck Message-ID: <01BE0331.B50A8940@s72.onix.com> From: Tony McKinley To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] RE: workflow suggestions Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 11:46:02 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id KAA04487 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Michael, PDF is the best solution for these applications, compared to alternatives like TIF which is not nearly as universal, or JPEG or GIF which are not good for text. For small jobs, you can use Acrobat to scan and do the whole thing. For multi-page jobs, Bookmarks are worth the effort. For PowerPoint and other visually rich objects, Thumbnails are handy. For scanning settings with text, it's almost always best to go with Binary scans instead of grayscale, and 300 dpi is the standard resolution for dense print though you might get away with 200 if you are not going to Capture it. The only problem that might arise in scanning newspapers is you might see moire patterns in scanned halftones, but that's usually not a killer. Assuming all your recipients have decent access to the Web or an Intranet, a short, descriptive email with the URL to a *byteserving* host is the preferable means of delivery. Users can download and view, or do a Save As to keep their own copy. BTW, there's an interesting book called "From Paper to Web" about all of this that you can buy at Barnes & Noble or Amazon.com, or read it for free over the Web at http://imagebiz.com. Shamelessly plugging, Tony McKinley __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 29-Oct-1998 17:15:30-GMT,1848;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA06459 for ; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 10:15:29 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA05911; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 11:03:40 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 29 Oct 1998 11:01:58 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA05711; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 11:01:56 -0600 Message-ID: <002301be035d$a2d89f60$3f0d9fcf@default> From: "Jim and Marguerite Ripley" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF to HTML Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 08:45:17 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2120.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2120.0 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Since I am new to a lot of this, I want to ask what is probably obvious to everyone. I know what it means in the regular world but not in this one. What is meant by the term, "legacy documents"? __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 29-Oct-1998 17:20:24-GMT,5107;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA06575 for ; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 10:20:23 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA05862; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 11:02:45 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 29 Oct 1998 11:01:03 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA05627; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 11:01:00 -0600 Message-ID: <01BE031B.1CEF55C0.jmaechtlen@amada.com> From: jmaechtlen@amada.com (Jay Maechtlen) To: "'PDF List'" Subject: [PDF] Optimize PDF for print or monitor? Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 09:04:18 -0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 X-MS-Attachment: WINMAIL.DAT 0 00-00-1980 00:00 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== "...Should I optimize the appearance of my PDF files for print or for the monitor?... I put all my docs into PDF and on our internal network - mainly for printout for sending to customers. (operation , programming manuals, machine pre-installation guides, service notes, etc.) But, what's wrong with fit-to-width or using the article threading to get decent readability? You can set the initial zoom for the document, and can even force zoom on each link- and these tricks don't affect printout at all. Aandi's approach of making two files for each document is not something I want to attempt, but certainly has its merits. 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Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 29-Oct-1998 17:33:28-GMT,3841;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA06901 for ; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 10:33:27 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA06613; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 11:12:11 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 29 Oct 1998 11:10:15 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA06418; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 11:10:13 -0600 Mail-System-Version: ClickMail 1.2.3 Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 17:9:33 +0000 To: " pdf@lists.pdfzone.com" From: "Gordon Wilson" Subject: [PDF] PDF and Database MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== PDF and Database 29/10/98 Can anyone tell me is it possible to create a database in Acrobat? It must be fully searchable by field, similer to a basic Filemaker Pro document. -------------------------------------- Date: 29/10/98 4:50 pm To: Custodian From: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Anyone use PDF Fine? This program is supposed to fix printing of bitmaps from Acrobat. Curious as to what people's take on this is. __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ [Message ID: -1302442683] [Internet header:] Return-Path: Received: from punt-2.mail.demon.net by mailstore for gordon@mbapublishing.co.uk id 909679032:20:08910:8; Thu, 29 Oct 98 16:37:12 GMT Received: from everglades.binc.net ([208.155.48.8]) by punt-2.mail.demon.net id aa2115590; 29 Oct 98 16:36 GMT Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA02940; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 10:23:55 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 29 Oct 1998 10:23:55 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA02924; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 10:23:53 -0600 Message-ID: <510B6C2A8380D111997200A0C99DBA2757EC6C@mars.rauland.com> From: "Schiff, Kenny" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] PDF Fine Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 10:21:42 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com úúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúú MBA PUBLISHING LTD ASHLEY HOUSE 44 HIGH STREET BOSTON SPA WEST YORKSHIRE LS23 6EA TEL 01937 541541 FAX 01937 541445 ISDN 01937 841280 úúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúúú __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 29-Oct-1998 17:33:31-GMT,2956;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA06910 for ; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 10:33:30 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA06496; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 11:10:41 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 29 Oct 1998 11:09:28 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA06332; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 11:09:27 -0600 Message-ID: <3638A09A.7DF@agora.stm.it> Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 18:06:34 +0100 From: Ikonos X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Re: PDF to HTML References: <199810291529.JAA30949@everglades.binc.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Thanks to all for the good contributions made on this point. I would still be curious to know if any of you can point to some Web URLs where effectively prepared and optimized PDF are properly byteserved. I have once seen a site working beautifully in this respect, and the perceived response time in seeing text appear on the screen was as fast or close to an HTML file. Background would appear after and so eventual images, jumping to next or other pages would bring the requested page with no delay on the screen. That is effective PDF byteserving! Can you point me to any good resource? I want to demonstrate to an audience how this can be effectively implemented. Thanks -- Luigi Canali-De-Rossi I K O N O S managing director N e w M e d i a via Vallombrosa, 6 00135 Rome, Italy mailto:Ikonos.sas@agora.stm.it Telephone 039 6 33.50.365 Facsimile 039 6 33.11.946 . . . . . Strategic consulting for Information design, multimedia projects development, for research, education and information-based institutions, worldwide "Think strategy, before technology" __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 29-Oct-1998 17:48:39-GMT,3040;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA07189 for ; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 10:46:43 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA07794; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 11:26:29 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 29 Oct 1998 11:24:39 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA07684; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 11:24:38 -0600 Message-ID: <3638A344.9D15C26F@ncafe.com> Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 10:17:59 -0700 From: Chris Beaumont X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.07 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ikonos.sas@agora.stm.it, pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] PDF to HTML, predictable answers Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Luigi, It's something that a lot of people dont want to admit, but PDF, while having many advantages, also has many disadvantages, when it comes to web publication. Not the least of these is it's unreachableness to the significant search engines..(Correct me if I am wrong, but all of the available ways to set up an online site search of PDF content cost a lot of money, and search engines like Excite, Alta-vista, etc cannot even see PDF content..) Also, on a byte by byte basis, PDF files are larger than plain text and graphics a-la HTML.. The PDF format was originally promoted to me by Adobe as being "cut and paste" proof.. ie. as a way of protecting print content from copying.. However, even Adobe has begun to see how stupid this is if they expect PDF to be a standard in the age of the Internet. I am sure that the next version of Exchange will have a text or HTML export feature.. (right now I think only the Windows version has this feature..through a plug-in..) However, that still leaves you with the graphics.. My solution has been to "print" bulk to image files, then OCR them using a template... Exasperating.. There are plug-ins out there too that will do this. However, if the content is graphics-rich, this may be a laborious process. Try to get the original DTP documents that the PDFs were made from.. if you can. There is a URL out there that will extract the text from PDFs.. I have seen a pointer to it on the Adobe website. Poke around.. __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 29-Oct-1998 19:16:35-GMT,5220;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA09320 for ; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 12:16:34 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA13393; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 12:45:06 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 29 Oct 1998 12:43:12 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA13221; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 12:43:08 -0600 From: John.E.Stuurwold@am.pnu.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 13:38:12 -0500 Message-Id: <000743B8.001444@am.pnu.com> Subject: RE: [PDF] Word 97, Doc-To-Help, Acrobat 3.01, Distiller, and To: "PDF Discussion List" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Eric, It sounds as though you've bumped into a problem that was introduced in Acrobat v3.01. Adobe refers to it as a PCL printing problem, which is definitely an improvement from their earlier claim that PCL printing was enhanced in v3.01. It is basically a non-PostScript printer problem, because it manifests itself not just on PCL printers but on any non-PS printer: inkjets, PCL laser printers, etc. The HP 5p is a PCL printer. Screen captures are among the worst effected graphics--text characters in the captures typically becomes unreadable. For Adobe's slant, check http://www.adobe.com/supportservice/custsupport/SOLUTIONS/902e.htm What is going on is that Acrobat 3.01 viewers downsample image data to 72-75 dpi when printing to a non-PS printer, to increase printing speed. Adobe is starting to release v3.02, which incorporates a fix. The first v3.02 release is Reader (English, without Search) for 32-bit Windows, Macintosh, and several flavors of UNIX. For all currently-available versions, see the chart at http://www.adobe.com/prodindex/acrobat/alternate.html Alternatively, there is a patch that can be done on v3.01, which brings Reader and/or Exchange up to v3.01RA. http://www.adobe.com/supportservice/custsupport/LIBRARY/505e.htm With either v3.02 or v3.01RA--and presumably with v3.0 and earlier, Acrobat viewers downsample image data sent to non-PS printers to 150 dpi. Adobe feels that this resolution is usually sufficient to achieve sharp printed images. I also recall seeing a note from someone who claimed to have a (plug-in?) utility that would actually modify the PDF file in some way to overcome this problem. I'm dubious, but quite willing to find a solution that doesn't depend on the user having the right viewing/printing software. --John E. Stuurwold Information Scientist Pharmacia & Upjohn Animal Health 9545-190-01 7000 Portage Road Kalamazoo, MI 49001-0199 -----Original message----- Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 12:10:03 -0600 From: eathomas@dbits.com (Eric Thomas) Subject: [PDF] Word 97, Doc-To-Help, Acrobat 3.01, Distiller, and Screenshots ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Hi all. It's time for me to revisit a problem I had many months ago with documentation I've been writing. I'm trying to get my documents converted to PDF. Unfortunately, they are loaded with large, detailed screenshots. Imagine the text in an e-mail mailbox queue with lots of messages and double the amount of text. Those are my images. Anyway, I use Word 97 with Doc-To-Help. I take my screenshots using the built-in screen/window grab in Windows. I then take them to Paint Shop Pro to crop them. Then I cut and paste them into Word and let Doc-To-Help scale them to fit in the space. When I print via Word on our HP LaserJet 5p, everything comes out beautiful. However, if I distill the document, my images get mangled beyond belief. They're unreadable onscreen and when I print. I'd really like to get to the point where I include PDF files on the CD instead of Word 97 docs. Does anyone have a suggestion that doesn't involve moving out of Word (which is not an option)? Thanks. - -Eric - --------------------------------------------------------------- Eric A. Thomas eathomas@dbits.com http://www.dbits.com E-mail overload? Your customers expect ResponseNow! - --------------------------------------------------------------- __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 29-Oct-1998 19:20:51-GMT,1829;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA09440 for ; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 12:20:50 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA14272; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 12:59:50 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 29 Oct 1998 12:58:48 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA14166; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 12:58:46 -0600 Message-ID: <812683BD972BD111B9AA00805F956EE37394C2@tac-nt-exch3.russell.com> From: "Keith, Derek (IMB_Technology)" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Differences in optimized file sizes Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 10:54:29 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== I have an unoptimized PDF file that is 2.17 MB. When I optimize it using Exchange, I get it down to 651K. When a co-worker optimizes the same unoptimized PDF file, she gets it down to 520K. What could be accounting for the difference? Thanks, Derek __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 29-Oct-1998 19:58:30-GMT,2711;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA10444 for ; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 12:58:28 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA16724; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 13:38:12 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 29 Oct 1998 13:36:32 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA16562; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 13:36:31 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: kfoss@mailbag.com Message-Id: Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 13:35:00 -0600 To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" From: frederick.epps@pss.boeing.com Subject: RE: [PDF] PRINTING ODD/EVEN PCL Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== I joined the pdf-announce@lists.pdfzone.com list and just Monday was reading about: Ari's Print Helper gives you an expanded print dialog box in Adobe Acrobat that allows you to type complex page ranges such as: 10-20,30-40 even, 55-70 odd, 10-1 at http://www.dionis.com Fred.W.Epps@Boeing.com > ---------- > From: Jim and Marguerite Ripley[SMTP:jripley@ns.net] > Reply To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Sent: Wednesday, 28 October, 1998 08:21 AM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: [PDF] PRINTING ODD/EVEN PCL > > > ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > > Probably an elementary question answered before, so beg pardon please. > > Is there a plugin which allows odd/even (double sided) printing to a PCL > (HP > LJ5L)? > > Jim Ripley > 50 Rancho del Sol > Camino, California 95709 USA > Vox 530.644.8078 > Fax 530.644.6932 > jripley@ns.net > > > __________________________________________________________ > > -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- > *** Sponsorship & Advt. 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Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 29-Oct-1998 20:30:57-GMT,4105;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA11249 for ; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 13:30:55 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA19129; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 14:13:08 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 29 Oct 1998 14:11:23 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA18984; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 14:11:22 -0600 Message-ID: <3638CE07.65E0F5B@glyphica.com> Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 12:20:23 -0800 From: Deidre Paknad Organization: Glyphica X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Re: PDF to HTML References: <199810291529.JAA30949@everglades.binc.net> <3638A09A.7DF@agora.stm.it> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== http://www.aafla.org/OlympicInformationCenter/OfficialReports.htm Try the 1984 Official Report as well as the 1896 official report from those Olympic Games. These were scanned from paper to PDF, and are rich in photos and graphics. The 1984 book is 11x17, four columns of text ... and beautiful in PDF. It is also over 800 pages long and about 65 megabytes, although you won't be hampered by either when you view it. Deidre Paknad .......................................... Glyphica - Content Management & Production http://www.glyphica.com PurePDF: The Acrobat Info Source on the Web http://www.purePDF.com .......................................... Ikonos wrote: > ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > > Thanks to all for the good contributions made on this point. > > I would still be curious to know if any of you can point to some > Web URLs where effectively prepared and optimized PDF are properly > byteserved. I have once seen a site working beautifully in this respect, > and the perceived response time in seeing text appear on the screen was > as fast or close to an HTML file. Background would appear after and so > eventual images, jumping to next or other pages would bring the > requested page with no delay on the screen. > That is effective PDF byteserving! Can you point me to any good > resource? I want to demonstrate to an audience how this can be > effectively implemented. > > Thanks > > > -- > > Luigi Canali-De-Rossi I K O N O S > managing director N e w M e d i a > > via Vallombrosa, 6 00135 Rome, Italy > mailto:Ikonos.sas@agora.stm.it > Telephone 039 6 33.50.365 > Facsimile 039 6 33.11.946 > . . . . . > Strategic consulting for Information design, > multimedia projects development, > for research, education and information-based institutions, worldwide > > "Think strategy, before technology" > > __________________________________________________________ > > -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- > *** Sponsorship & Advt. 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Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 29-Oct-1998 20:44:44-GMT,2690;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA11515 for ; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 13:44:38 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA20577; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 14:32:13 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 29 Oct 1998 14:30:29 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA20373; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 14:30:25 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: kfoss@mailbag.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3638A09A.7DF@agora.stm.it> References: <199810291529.JAA30949@everglades.binc.net> Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 14:28:55 -0600 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Kurt Foss Subject: Re: [PDF] Re: PDF to HTML Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== We featured a site earlier this week in 'PDF Showcase' that is among the best at utilizing ALL the pdf tools for enhancing navigation & useability, including byteserving. 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Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 29-Oct-1998 21:28:52-GMT,2309;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA12694 for ; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 14:28:46 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA23675; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 15:10:37 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 29 Oct 1998 15:08:24 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA23463; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 15:08:22 -0600 Message-ID: From: "Jessup, Samuel" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] PDF Bookmarks from Word Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 13:08:47 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id PAA23459 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Forgive my ignorance, but can someone explain to me why suddenly the bookmarks that were created automatically out of MS Word98's document map have magically stopped appearing?   The document mapping is still intact in MSWord and I am running Win NT4.0 using Exchange 3.01.   I am fairly certain that have made no updates to MSWord or Exchange and really miss this nifty feature. So, what am I doing wrong?   TIA   Samuel Jessup, Graphics Department Manager, LFR - Southwest Region 1920 Main Street, Suite 750, Irvine, California 92614 * 949.955.1390 mailto:samuel.jessup@lfr.com http://www.lfr.com   __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 29-Oct-1998 22:56:26-GMT,2098;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA15040 for ; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 15:56:20 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA28974; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 16:28:55 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 29 Oct 1998 16:27:34 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA28836; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 16:27:32 -0600 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Differences in optimized file sizes Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 21:54:07 -0000 Message-ID: <000e01be038a$e6297780$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <812683BD972BD111B9AA00805F956EE37394C2@tac-nt-exch3.russell.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > > I have an unoptimized PDF file that is 2.17 MB. When I > optimize it using > Exchange, I get it down to 651K. When a co-worker optimizes the same > unoptimized PDF file, she gets it down to 520K. > Are you running the same release of Exchange? Are you running the same version of the forms filler/author? Aandi __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 29-Oct-1998 23:18:22-GMT,2263;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA15724 for ; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 16:18:16 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA31407; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 17:02:11 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 29 Oct 1998 17:00:46 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA31260; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 17:00:43 -0600 Message-ID: <3618FAF100009EDF@mailhost.jdpub.com> (added by mailhost.jdpub.com) Date: 29 Oct 98 17:00:30 -0600 From: Jeff Rochon Subject: [PDF] illustrator 7.0 eps files won't distill To: pdf X-Mailer: QuickMail Pro 1.5.3 (Mac) X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-Ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id RAA31255 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== i have ran into numerous problems distilling illustrator 7.0 eps files [mac] with version 3.02 of acrobat distiller. i keep getting an offending command from distiller. as soon as i resave them as a 6.0 eps and repostscript the page from within quarkxpress 3.32r5 everything is fine. grrrrrrrr! am i missing something or do these things just not work correctly with the current version of acrobat? you would think adobe would at least make their products PLAY NICE with one another. what an extreme waste of time. any insight is much appreciated. jeff rochon jdtv, inc. __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 30-Oct-1998 0:08:44-GMT,2756;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA16976 for ; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 17:08:43 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA01698; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 17:52:06 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 29 Oct 1998 17:50:54 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA01624; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 17:50:52 -0600 X-Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated X-Division: Core Technology X-Department: Product Interoperability Analysis X-URL: Message-Id: <4.1.19981029154800.00b87920@mail-303> X-Sender: isaacs@mail-303 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 15:50:08 -0800 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com, Jeff Rochon From: Dov Isaacs Subject: Re: [PDF] illustrator 7.0 eps files won't distill Cc: pdf In-Reply-To: <3618FAF100009EDF@mailhost.jdpub.com> (added by mailhost.jdpub.com) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== EPS files are not designed for distillation, although PostScript files are. If you were to distill the PostScript output from Illustrator 7 via "printing", you should see any problems and you wouldn't need to import into Quark. - Dov At 10/29/98 03:00 PM , Jeff Rochon wrote: >i have ran into numerous problems distilling illustrator 7.0 eps files [mac] >with version 3.02 of acrobat distiller. i keep getting an offending command >from distiller. as soon as i resave them as a 6.0 eps and repostscript the >page from within quarkxpress 3.32r5 everything is fine. grrrrrrrr! > >am i missing something or do these things just not work correctly with the >current version of acrobat? > >you would think adobe would at least make their products PLAY NICE with one >another. what an extreme waste of time. >any insight is much appreciated. > >jeff rochon >jdtv, inc. __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 30-Oct-1998 0:19:18-GMT,2181;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA17221 for ; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 17:19:17 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA02575; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 18:06:11 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 29 Oct 1998 18:04:27 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA02441; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 18:04:26 -0600 Message-ID: From: "Jessup, Samuel" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] illustrator 7.0 eps files won't distill Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 16:04:50 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== I use Illustrator v 7.0 all the time with Acrobat with nary a problem. Try saving your Illustrator EPS files as native Illustrator (*.ai) and print directly through Distiller. Embed the EPS files you've got if you wish and you'll likely be pleased. Samuel Jessup, Graphics Department Manager, LFR - Southwest Region 1920 Main Street, Suite 750, Irvine, California 92614 * 949.955.1390 mailto:samuel.jessup@lfr.com < mailto:samuel.jessup@lfr.com > http://www.lfr.com < http://www.lfr.com > __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 30-Oct-1998 0:19:49-GMT,4062;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA17236 for ; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 17:19:43 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA02709; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 18:08:01 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 29 Oct 1998 18:06:55 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA02619; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 18:06:54 -0600 Message-ID: <4040B998C13AD111AF7C00805FC144AE438904@esmg01.cnt.com> From: Syd Satovich To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Distiller 3.01 Undefined Error Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 18:06:41 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== I am trying to convert a FrameMaker (FM) 5.5 book file to PDF. The FM book file contains 66 files amounting to a total of 402 pages. There are no graphics in the entire book file. Tables are used occasionally-- they are not complex and contain the exactly the same information. FM converts the book file to a tps file. The tps file is opened by Distiller. Distiller goes through to the very last page (p. 402) then gives this error message, which is not very helpful: %%[ Page: 402 ]%% %%[ Error: undefined; OffendingCommand: ** ]%% %%[ Flushing: rest of job (to end-of-file) will be ignored ]%% %%[ Warning: PostScript error. No PDF file produced. ] %% ** These asterisks appear as two blackened boxes. They may be just random characters, which usually means, according to Adobe's web page, that there is a post script error with a graphic, but there are no graphics in my book file. When I first saw the Distiller error message, I took it to mean that there was an error on page 402. Once I figured out which page was indeed the 402nd page, I discovered it was the very last page, which is blank. Thinking that Distiller cannot read this page, I recreated the last file in the book file. I created a PDF and it worked fine. The next day, I make changes to the book file, spell check each file, etc. When I create a PDF, I got the same Distiller error message as given above. In trying to figure out this problem, these are the steps I have taken and their results: 1) I created a PDF of each separate file in the book file. RESULT: Each file converted to a PDF successfully. 2) Assuming the last file was corrupted, I set the print option for the book file to "Don't Print" for the last file. RESULT: An errorless PDF is created from the book file, but the PDF includes the file I set not to print (I thought the print option applied to converting to PDFs). Basically, the whole book file converts successfully to PDF. 3) I set the print option for the book file to "Print" for the last file, RESULT: The Distiller distills through the last page (402) and then issues the error message given above. The results of step 2 and 3 lead me to believe there is something wrong with the last file of the book, though I don't know why setting it not to print allows the entire book file (including the last file) to convert successfully to PDF. I need to create a sound PDF file without any kind of work around (such as in step 2). Does anyone know what to do? Sincerely, Syd __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 30-Oct-1998 0:27:05-GMT,5207;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA17403 for ; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 17:27:04 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA03131; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 18:13:45 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 29 Oct 1998 18:12:46 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA03057; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 18:12:44 -0600 X-Sender: prodok@pop.eunet.ch Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3638A344.9D15C26F@ncafe.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 00:57:12 +0100 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Max Wyss Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF to HTML, predictable answers Cc: Chris Beaumont Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Chris, I do not deny the problems you may encounter when putting PDFs on the Web. The rather expensive indexers are one of the more serious ones. I beg to disagree on the file size comparision. One has to be very careful when comparing file sizes between PDF and HTML based documents. Chances that one compares things which are not quite comparable are very high. And - of course - it depends a lot on the document itself. The PDF document contains all the information required to display and print it in one single file. This also ensures the integrity of the contents. If parts of the information is missing, for example due to transmission errors, the file is corrupted and it indicates that. On the other hand, under HTML, a file can be corrupted and still display. This fact alone makes the HTML format unusable when the integrity of the document is a necessity. And the fact that a HTML document is a bunch of individual files points to the same direction. You may have noted that I have not yet mentioned the integrity of appearance. This is where HTML still is very far behind. As long as there is no hard binding appearance information within the document, this integrity can not be guaranteed. Now when comparing the file sizes, an average PDF document, and a HTML 4 document (to have kind of similar appearance control), containing some raster graphics and some (originally) vector graphics, you will have to transmit more information the HTML way than with a PDF. About the export features: Text is possible. With HTML i have VERY serious doubts, although I have read about plug-ins caiming to be able to do so. The reason for my doubts is that in the current PDF format, no document structure information is available. This means that it would be an arbitrary assignment of tags to a particular appearance of a text string. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering AG Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch WWW: http://www.prodok.ch/prodok Bridging the Knowledge Gap ______________________ >Luigi, > > It's something that a lot of people dont want to admit, but PDF, while >having many advantages, also has many disadvantages, when it comes to web >publication. Not the least of these is it's unreachableness to the significant >search engines..(Correct me if I am wrong, but all of the available ways to >set up an online site search of PDF content cost a lot of money, and search >engines like Excite, Alta-vista, etc cannot even see PDF content..) Also, on >a byte by byte basis, PDF files are larger than plain text and graphics >a-la HTML.. > >The PDF format was originally promoted to me by Adobe as being "cut and paste" >proof.. ie. as a way of protecting print content from copying.. However, even >Adobe has begun to see how stupid this is if they expect PDF to be a standard >in the age of the Internet. I am sure that the next version of Exchange will >have a text or HTML export feature.. (right now I think only the Windows >version has this feature..through a plug-in..) However, that still leaves you >with the graphics.. My solution has been to "print" bulk to image files, then >OCR them using a template... Exasperating.. > >There are plug-ins out there too that will do this. However, if the content is >graphics-rich, this may be a laborious process. Try to get the original DTP >documents that the PDFs were made from.. if you can. There is a URL out there >that will extract the text from PDFs.. I have seen a pointer to it on the >Adobe website. Poke around.. __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 30-Oct-1998 0:56:16-GMT,2764;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA18177 for ; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 17:56:15 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA04583; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 18:39:50 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 29 Oct 1998 18:38:02 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA04452; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 18:38:00 -0600 Message-ID: <812683BD972BD111B9AA00805F956EE37394CD@tac-nt-exch3.russell.com> From: "Keith, Derek (IMB_Technology)" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Differences in optimized file sizes Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 16:33:37 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== No, it turns out we don't have the same versions. I have Exchange 3.01 with Forms Author 3.5 My co-worker has Exchange 3.00 with Forms 1.0 The PDF that I noticed the difference on does not contain any form objects. +Derek > ---------- > From: Aandi Inston[SMTP:quite@dial.pipex.com] > Reply To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Sent: Thursday, October 29, 1998 1:54 PM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: RE: [PDF] Differences in optimized file sizes > > > ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > > > > > I have an unoptimized PDF file that is 2.17 MB. When I > > optimize it using > > Exchange, I get it down to 651K. When a co-worker optimizes the same > > unoptimized PDF file, she gets it down to 520K. > > > Are you running the same release of Exchange? > Are you running the same version of the forms filler/author? > > Aandi > > __________________________________________________________ > > -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- > *** Sponsorship & Advt. 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Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 30-Oct-1998 1:50:28-GMT,2740;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA19342 for ; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 18:50:27 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA07387; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 19:27:36 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 29 Oct 1998 19:26:04 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA07310; Thu, 29 Oct 1998 19:26:02 -0600 Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 20:25:11 -0500 From: Michael Vorel Subject: [PDF] Distiller 3.01 Undefined Error To: "INTERNET:pdf@lists.pdfzone.com" Message-ID: <199810292025_MC2-5E82-28C8@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id TAA07306 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Message text written by INTERNET:pdf@lists.pdfzone.com >FM converts the book file to a tps file. The tps file is opened by Distiller. Distiller goes through to the very last page (p. 402) then gives this error message, which is not very helpful: %%[ Page: 402 ]%% %%[ Error: undefined; OffendingCommand: ** ]%% %%[ Flushing: rest of job (to end-of-file) will be ignored ]%% %%[ Warning: PostScript error. No PDF file produced. ] %% ** These asterisks appear as two blackened boxes. They may be just random characters, which usually means, according to Adobe's web page, that there is a post script error with a graphic, but there are no graphics in my book file.< It appears there are extraneous characters being produced by the driver..... Edit the postscript file before you distill it, locate the potential defective characters near the end of the file and remove them... If you can determine the hex values of the offending characters, we may be able to determine just what they are and where they are coming from... michael vorel v - 212-351-9019 p - 888-377-4046 __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 30-Oct-1998 10:13:11-GMT,3234;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA29837 for ; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 03:13:10 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA01303; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 03:56:03 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 30 Oct 1998 03:54:14 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA01225; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 03:54:11 -0600 X-Sender: prodok@pop.eunet.ch Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 10:44:25 +0100 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Max Wyss Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF to HTML Cc: Robert Jones Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Robt, PDF a high-end technology ... if you say so... To create PDFs for the same functionality you have with the HTML export (which means without manually post-processing the individual legacy documents), you would be surprised how easy that it. In fact, it is about as easy as printing. If your legacy documents are just text, you can even use the cheapo PDFWriter to create the PDFs. Of course, if you need the ability to access individual pages over a slow web connection, you might consider optimizing. But then, text compresses pretty well, and the files do get quite small anyway. One thing is for sure, with the legacy documents. No matter how you will deliver them, you will have to work on them. The level of functionality you add determines the time and effort you spend on these documents. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering AG Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch WWW: http://www.prodok.ch/prodok Bridging the Knowledge Gap ______________________ >There is at least one good reason, which I am currently running up >against. Namely, PDF is a high-end technology, and is not as universally >accessable as marked-up document would be. I have a largish collection of >legacy documents which I need to make accessable to all, and PDF just is >not a good solution for that. > >Right now I'm considering tracking down the original (WordPerfect, mostly) >docs and converting them via WP->HTML tools. > >That's all... just sharing at least one reason not to stay with PDF, and >a similar interest in this situation. > >robt > __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 30-Oct-1998 10:23:10-GMT,9060;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA00027 for ; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 03:23:09 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA01839; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 04:04:05 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 30 Oct 1998 04:02:45 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA01732; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 04:02:44 -0600 Message-ID: <00f001be03ec$067d6940$1f40dec2@demon.co.uk> From: "Nic Plum" To: , Subject: Re: [PDF] Word 97, Doc-To-Help, Acrobat 3.01, Distiller, and Screenshots Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 09:50:01 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=SHA1; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0071_01BE03EA.AA7CF8A0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.0518.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.0518.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0071_01BE03EA.AA7CF8A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I think that the problem is probably the scaling that is used. There are 2 possible areas - within Word, although you say that it prints out fine from within Word, and within Acrobat itself. On the Acrobat side you might try viewing one of the images at different zoom factors and see whether it gets better/worse to find an optimum value. If this does solve the problem (although the printing still ought to work) you could, using Exchange, create bookmarks for these bitmaps using the zoom factor that worked. If you don't specify a zoom factor and rely on fit-to-width etc the effective zoom factor will be different on different machines which will probably distort your screenshots. Cheers. Nic. ____________________________________________________________________ Buckden, < www.nplum.demon.co.uk/temptin/ > Huntingdon, For information management and Cambs, Adobe Acrobat integration from UK. within your favourite PE18 9SZ wordprocessor Fax: National 0870 0547328 International +44 870 0547328 _____________________________________________________________________ -----Original Message----- From: Eric Thomas To: Date: 28 October 1998 18:25 Subject: [PDF] Word 97, Doc-To-Help, Acrobat 3.01, Distiller, and Screenshots | |====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== | |. I take my screenshots using the |built-in screen/window grab in Windows. I then take them to Paint Shop Pro |to crop them. Then I cut and paste them into Word and let Doc-To-Help |scale them to fit in the space. When I print via Word on our HP LaserJet |5p, everything comes out beautiful. However, if I distill the document, my |images get mangled beyond belief. They're unreadable onscreen and when I |print. |I'd really like to get to the point where I include PDF files on the CD |instead of Word 97 docs. Does anyone have a suggestion that doesn't |involve moving out of Word (which is not an option)? |Thanks. |-Eric | |--------------------------------------------------------------- |Eric A. Thomas |eathomas@dbits.com |http://www.dbits.com |E-mail overload? |Your customers expect ResponseNow! |--------------------------------------------------------------- | | |__________________________________________________________ | |-> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- |*** Sponsorship & Advt. 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Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 30-Oct-1998 13:43:26-GMT,3366;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA03728 for ; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 06:43:25 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA11149; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 07:11:06 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 30 Oct 1998 07:05:19 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA10888; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 07:05:17 -0600 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Differences in optimized file sizes Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 12:50:14 -0000 Message-ID: <000301be0403$e4a3b6e0$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <812683BD972BD111B9AA00805F956EE37394CD@tac-nt-exch3.russell.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Try with the old forms author (just copy AFILL32.API from the old system, keeping your new copy safe). I'd be interested in the results. Optimization has two jobs to do, and its rather a pity that it has only one switch. On the one hand it giveth: if you used ASCII or forgot to compress text and line art, this is sorted, and sometimes duplicate elements will be detected so they are only stored once. So the file gets smaller. On the other hand it taketh: the file is "linearized" (to use the technical term) for web downloading, which adds extra indexing information and rearranges the elements of the file. I might speculate that the new forms author helps out with linearization, by splitting up forms and perhaps other annotations on a per-page basis. I haven't looked at this internally, but I have seen other examples where the new forms author causes files to grow alarmingly. If the file contains named destinations, which Frame includes, it may be another candidate for this behaviour. Aandi > > No, it turns out we don't have the same versions. > I have Exchange 3.01 with Forms Author 3.5 > My co-worker has Exchange 3.00 with Forms 1.0 > The PDF that I noticed the difference on does not contain any > form objects. > > > > > > > I have an unoptimized PDF file that is 2.17 MB. When I > > > optimize it using > > > Exchange, I get it down to 651K. When a co-worker > optimizes the same > > > unoptimized PDF file, she gets it down to 520K. > > > > > Are you running the same release of Exchange? > > Are you running the same version of the forms filler/author? __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 30-Oct-1998 15:19:18-GMT,5477;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA05713 for ; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 08:19:17 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA17043; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 08:50:54 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 30 Oct 1998 08:48:52 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA16863; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 08:48:48 -0600 Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 09:47:59 -0500 From: olaf druemmer Subject: Re: [PDF] Distiller 3.01 Undefined Error To: PDF listserver Message-ID: <199810300948_MC2-5E95-EAD6@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id IAA16854 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== I'd say the PostScript generated by FrameMaker is flawed. If it always happens with the last file/page and you could turn the last page off and then get a file I'd sugest a workaround where you'd append an extraneous file with a single page and turn that one off. Olaf Druemmer > > >====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > >I am trying to convert a FrameMaker (FM) 5.5 book file to PDF. The FM book >file contains 66 files amounting to a total of 402 pages. There are no >graphics in the entire book file. Tables are used occasionally-- they are >not complex and contain the exactly the same information. > >FM converts the book file to a tps file. The tps file is opened by >Distiller. Distiller goes through to the very last page (p. 402) then gives >this error message, which is not very helpful: > >%%[ Page: 402 ]%% >%%[ Error: undefined; OffendingCommand: ** ]%% >%%[ Flushing: rest of job (to end-of-file) will be ignored ]%% >%%[ Warning: PostScript error. No PDF file produced. ] %% > >** These asterisks appear as two blackened boxes. They may be just random >characters, which usually means, according to Adobe's web page, that there >is a post script error with a graphic, but there are no graphics in my book >file. > >When I first saw the Distiller error message, I took it to mean that there >was an error on page 402. Once I figured out which page was indeed the 402nd >page, I discovered it was the very last page, which is blank. Thinking that >Distiller cannot read this page, I recreated the last file in the book file. >I created a PDF and it worked fine. > >The next day, I make changes to the book file, spell check each file, etc. >When I create a PDF, I got the same Distiller error message as given above. > >In trying to figure out this problem, these are the steps I have taken and >their results: > >1) I created a PDF of each separate file in the book file. >RESULT: Each file converted to a PDF successfully. > >2) Assuming the last file was corrupted, I set the print option for the >book file to "Don't Print" for the last file. >RESULT: An errorless PDF is created from the book file, but the PDF >includes the file I set not to print (I thought the print option applied to >converting to PDFs). Basically, the whole book file converts successfully to >PDF. > >3) I set the print option for the book file to "Print" for the last >file, >RESULT: The Distiller distills through the last page (402) and then issues >the error message given above. > >The results of step 2 and 3 lead me to believe there is something wrong with >the last file of the book, though I don't know why setting it not to print >allows the entire book file (including the last file) to convert >successfully to PDF. > >I need to create a sound PDF file without any kind of work around (such as >in step 2). Does anyone know what to do? > >Sincerely, >Syd > >__________________________________________________________ > >-> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- >*** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** >+ For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + >__________________________________________________________ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Olaf Druemmer ------------------------------------------------------------------------- callas software gmbh Tel +49.30.44390310 Leonardo +49.30.44390311 Pappelallee 9 Fax +49.30.4416402 connect.pdf +49.30.44342391 D 10437 Berlin callas@compuserve.com http://www.callas.de ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Download 'White Paper PDF for Prepress': http://www.callas.de/pdf_wp.pdf ------------------------------------------------------------------------- __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 30-Oct-1998 15:19:35-GMT,3119;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA05722 for ; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 08:19:35 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA17042; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 08:50:54 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 30 Oct 1998 08:48:50 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA16846; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 08:48:47 -0600 Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 09:47:56 -0500 From: olaf druemmer Subject: Re: [PDF] illustrator 7.0 eps files won't distill To: PDF listserver Message-ID: <199810300948_MC2-5E95-EAD2@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id IAA16842 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Sorry Dov, but this reply deserves to be rejected. Any PostScript should make it through any PostScript interpreter without causing offending command errors. (You could not blame Distiller if it did not produce a PDF page in case there were no showpage at the end of the EPS.) The Acrobat team even tried to offer an extra service when distilling EPS files by extracting the bounding box information and turning it into MediaBox/CropBox info (otherwise the default page size would have been used for EPS files). Many people have very good reasons to want to distill EPS files. Olaf Druemmer >EPS files are not designed for distillation, although PostScript >files are. If you were to distill the PostScript output from >Illustrator 7 via "printing", you should see any problems and you >wouldn't need to import into Quark. > > - Dov ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Olaf Druemmer ------------------------------------------------------------------------- callas software gmbh Tel +49.30.44390310 Leonardo +49.30.44390311 Pappelallee 9 Fax +49.30.4416402 connect.pdf +49.30.44342391 D 10437 Berlin callas@compuserve.com http://www.callas.de ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Download 'White Paper PDF for Prepress': http://www.callas.de/pdf_wp.pdf ------------------------------------------------------------------------- __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 30-Oct-1998 15:26:59-GMT,1771;000000000000 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA05863 for ; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 08:26:52 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id JAA10047 for pdftex-list; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 09:33:09 -0500 Received: from regulus.informatik.uni-hannover.de (te@regulus.informatik.uni-hannover.de [130.75.26.7]) by tug.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA10044 for ; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 09:33:08 -0500 Received: (from te@localhost) by regulus.informatik.uni-hannover.de (8.9.1a/8.9.1) id PAA00322 for pdftex@tug.org; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 15:32:44 +0100 (MET) Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 15:32:44 +0100 (MET) From: Thomas Esser Message-Id: <199810301432.PAA00322@regulus.informatik.uni-hannover.de> To: pdftex@tug.org Subject: Re: 981023 fails to build on SunOS 4.1.3 as usual Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk a patch from Keith Refson for ttf2afm.c: > 1) texk/web2c/pdftexdir/ttf2afm.c fails to compile because it can't > find getopt.. Here's a patch > > diff ttf2afm.c ttf2afm.c~ > 11d10 > < #include Hm... Like in pdftoepdf.cc we have a mixture of kpathsea and system headers again. Maybe, one should replace the system headers by their kpathsea version? The headers would be (untested): #ifdef WIN32 #include #include #include #else #include #include #include #include #include #include #include #include in that case. Maybe, the #ifdef WIN32 can go away with these headers... Thomas 30-Oct-1998 15:28:11-GMT,2297;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA05912 for ; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 08:28:05 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA18590; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 09:12:09 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 30 Oct 1998 09:10:12 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA18427; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 09:10:06 -0600 Subject: Re: [PDF] illustrator 7.0 eps files won't distill Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 08:11:07 -0000 x-sender: dennisw@mail.inpractice.net x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: Dennis Walker To: "PDF Mail List" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-ID: <1302387427-8161423@mail.inpractice.net> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Jeff Rochon (jrochon@wi.jdtv.com) wrote on 10/29/98 4:00 PM: >i have ran into numerous problems distilling illustrator 7.0 eps files >[mac] with version 3.02 of acrobat distiller. i keep getting an offending >command from distiller. as soon as i resave them as a 6.0 eps and >repostscript the page from within quarkxpress 3.32r5 everything is fine. >grrrrrrrr! Have you updated to v7.0.1? I remember when 7.0 hit the streets, there was a problem with the EPS files it created, and 7.0.1 update was released right away to correct this. Dennis Walker dennisw@inpractice.net EVP/Production Mgr. 435-647-9910 InPractice Publications, Inc. 435-647-5927 fax __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 30-Oct-1998 15:29:47-GMT,2171;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA05928 for ; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 08:29:32 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA18842; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 09:14:43 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 30 Oct 1998 09:12:58 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA18649; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 09:12:55 -0600 Subject: Re: [PDF] illustrator 7.0 eps files won't distill Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 08:13:55 -0000 x-sender: dennisw@mail.inpractice.net x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: Dennis Walker To: "PDF Mail List" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-ID: <1302387260-8171478@mail.inpractice.net> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Dov Isaacs (isaacs@Adobe.COM) wrote on 10/29/98 4:50 PM: >EPS files are not designed for distillation, although PostScript >files are. If you were to distill the PostScript output from >Illustrator 7 via "printing", you should see any problems and you >wouldn't need to import into Quark. Distiller WILL distill EPS files just fine. Depending on the source of the EPS, you may or may not have fonts embedded however. Dennis Walker dennisw@inpractice.net EVP/Production Mgr. 435-647-9910 InPractice Publications, Inc. 435-647-5927 fax __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 30-Oct-1998 16:52:13-GMT,4607;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA08021 for ; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 09:52:12 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA22824; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 10:13:38 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 30 Oct 1998 10:11:11 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA22604; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 10:11:09 -0600 Message-ID: <3618FAF10000A297@mailhost.jdpub.com> (added by mailhost.jdpub.com) Date: 30 Oct 98 10:10:59 -0600 From: Jeff Rochon Subject: Re: [PDF] illustrator 7.0 eps files won't distill To: pdf X-Mailer: QuickMail Pro 1.5.3 (Mac) X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-Ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id KAA22600 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Reply to: Re: [PDF] illustrator 7.0 eps files won't distill thanks dennis, that may be my problem. i am getting the files from an outside client and converting their quarkxpress layouts with embedded illustrator 7.0 eps files into pdf. i will call and see what version they are using. i am using version 7.01 internally. when i get a chance i will do a test to see if 7.01 corrects the problem. thanks again for an excellent possiblity to the cause! all the best. jeff Dennis Walker wrote: > >====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > >Jeff Rochon (jrochon@wi.jdtv.com) wrote on 10/29/98 4:00 PM: > >>i have ran into numerous problems distilling illustrator 7.0 eps files >>[mac] with version 3.02 of acrobat distiller. i keep getting an offending >>command from distiller. as soon as i resave them as a 6.0 eps and >>repostscript the page from within quarkxpress 3.32r5 everything is fine. >>grrrrrrrr! > >Have you updated to v7.0.1? I remember when 7.0 hit the streets, there >was a problem with the EPS files it created, and 7.0.1 update was >released right away to correct this. > >Dennis Walker dennisw@inpractice.net >EVP/Production Mgr. 435-647-9910 >InPractice Publications, Inc. 435-647-5927 fax > > >__________________________________________________________ > >-> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- >*** Sponsorship & Advt. 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Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 30-Oct-1998 17:59:46-GMT,1876;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA10038 for ; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 10:59:11 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA28433; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 11:36:18 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 30 Oct 1998 11:34:12 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA28322; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 11:34:10 -0600 X-Lotus-FromDomain: KEYCORP From: "Karen L Mibus" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <852566AD.005FE824.00@keybank.com> Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 12:30:49 -0500 Subject: [PDF] Byteserving Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Does anyone know how to test whether byteserving is functioning properly on a server? I had originally understood that the first page of the PDF file should appear before "50% downloaded" appears in the status area. However, I've noticed that most PDF files race through to 100% before displaying the first page, yet the first page appears very soon after launching the file. --Karen __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 30-Oct-1998 18:04:30-GMT,2124;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA10220 for ; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 11:04:28 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA29347; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 11:48:23 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 30 Oct 1998 11:47:18 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA29254; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 11:47:16 -0600 Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 12:45:10 -0500 From: krezel@sweng.stortek.com (Lili Krezel) Message-Id: <199810301745.MAA10823@guido.stortek.com> To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Distiller 3.01 Undefined Error X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Syd Satovich wrote: >** These asterisks appear as two blackened boxes. They may be just random >characters, which usually means, according to Adobe's web page, that there >is a post script error with a graphic, but there are no graphics in my book >file. > Perhaps there is an unused graphic on the reference page of your FrameMaker file? It may have been inadvertently imported from another template. Or there could be an invisible anchored frame. Also, if you have not tried this yet, save the FrameMaker BOOK file as MIF, then re-open it as binary, then re-create the tps file. This should eliminate most corruptions in the source file. Hope this helps. Lili Krezel __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 30-Oct-1998 18:04:33-GMT,3115;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA10219 for ; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 11:04:27 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA29354; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 11:48:32 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 30 Oct 1998 11:47:26 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA29279; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 11:47:24 -0600 Message-Id: <199810301747.MAA13630@uakron.edu> From: "D.P.Story" Organization: The University of Akron To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 12:47:20 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: [PDF] Byteserving In-reply-to: <852566AD.005FE824.00@keybank.com> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01b) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== On 30 Oct 98, at 12:30, Karen L Mibus wrote: > > ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > > > Does anyone know how to test whether byteserving is functioning properly > on a server? > > I had originally understood that the first page of the PDF file should > appear before "50% downloaded" appears in the status area. However, I've > noticed that most PDF files race through to 100% before displaying the > first page, yet the first page appears very soon after launching the file. > > --Karen > Thomas Merz in his book "Web Publishing with Acrobat/PDF" contains a simple test in it. Would recommend the book as a nice reference for Acrobat/PDF. For more info, see Merz's homepage: http://www.ifconnection.de/~tm/ Regards, dps > > > __________________________________________________________ > > -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- > *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** > + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + > __________________________________________________________ > > Dr. D. P. Story dpstory@uakron.edu http://www.math.uakron.edu/~dpstory/ Dept of Mathematics and Computer Science / University of Akron / Akron, Ohio 44325 AcroTeX Site Overview:http://www.math.uakron.edu/~dpstory/acrotex.html Site Highlights: e-Calculus; Algebra Review in Ten Lessons; Mathematical Games; Pdfmarks:Links and Forms; Using LaTeX to Create Quality PDF Documents for the WWW and much, much more. __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 30-Oct-1998 18:05:30-GMT,2715;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA10245 for ; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 11:05:29 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA29602; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 11:50:46 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 30 Oct 1998 11:49:01 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA29394; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 11:48:58 -0600 Message-ID: From: Nathan Keller To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] Byteserving Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 09:49:00 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== What if you put a several MG pdf (make one) up on a webpage or where ever you have them and then test with that? Sincerely, Nathan Keller Technical Support Career Guidance Foundation nathank@cgf.org (800) 854-2670 http://www.collegesource.org -----Original Message----- From: Karen L Mibus [mailto:Karen_L_Mibus@keybank.com] Sent: Friday, October 30, 1998 9:31 AM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Byteserving ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Does anyone know how to test whether byteserving is functioning properly on a server? I had originally understood that the first page of the PDF file should appear before "50% downloaded" appears in the status area. However, I've noticed that most PDF files race through to 100% before displaying the first page, yet the first page appears very soon after launching the file. --Karen __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. 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Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 30-Oct-1998 19:26:36-GMT,2948;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA12656 for ; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 12:26:34 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA00914; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 12:51:42 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 30 Oct 1998 12:48:10 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA00685; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 12:48:06 -0600 Message-ID: <4040B998C13AD111AF7C00805FC144AE438905@esmg01.cnt.com> From: Syd Satovich To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Distiller 3.01 Undefined Error Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 12:47:49 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Thank you Lili for your advice. I have another question, though. How do I open the MIF file as binary? Thanks again. Syd -----Original Message----- From: krezel@sweng.stortek.com [SMTP:krezel@sweng.stortek.com] Sent: Friday, October 30, 1998 11:45 AM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Distiller 3.01 Undefined Error ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Syd Satovich wrote: >** These asterisks appear as two blackened boxes. They may be just random >characters, which usually means, according to Adobe's web page, that there >is a post script error with a graphic, but there are no graphics in my book >file. > Perhaps there is an unused graphic on the reference page of your FrameMaker file? It may have been inadvertently imported from another template. Or there could be an invisible anchored frame. Also, if you have not tried this yet, save the FrameMaker BOOK file as MIF, then re-open it as binary, then re-create the tps file. This should eliminate most corruptions in the source file. Hope this helps. Lili Krezel __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. 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Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 30-Oct-1998 21:28:46-GMT,2301;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA15927 for ; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 14:28:45 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA09730; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 15:13:39 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 30 Oct 1998 15:11:51 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA09559; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 15:11:50 -0600 X-Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated X-Division: Core Technology X-Department: Product Interoperability Analysis X-URL: Message-Id: <4.1.19981030130241.00a41490@mail-303> X-Sender: isaacs@mail-303 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 X-Priority: 1 (Highest) Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 13:10:47 -0800 To: (Recipient list suppressed) From: Dov Isaacs Subject: [PDF] AdobePS 5.0.1 In-Reply-To: <176960BF10FFD111901800A0C9B3FA5A1F87FF@ntmail01.pc.sas.com > Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Good news on a Friday afternoon, Erev Shabbat! Users of Acrobat on Windows NT 4 should be glad to know that AdobePS 5.0.1 has just been released and is now available for download on Adobe's web site at the following URL: http://www.adobe.com/supportservice/custsupport/LIBRARY/pdrvwin.htm A number of anomolies reported to Adobe, some via these forums, have been remedied. Hopefully this will lower some of the anxiety in use of PostScript and PDF in the Windows NT 4 environment! Enjoy. - Dov __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. 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At 03:03 PM 10/30/98 +0000, you wrote: > < snip > >====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > >Michael Cessna >Cessna Publishing __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. 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I disagree; I welcome new product announcements and even a little marketing by vendors if it's aimed at helping someone solve a problem. Just my $0.02 worth. Dennis Walker dennisw@inpractice.net EVP/Production Mgr. 435-647-9910 InPractice Publications, Inc. 435-647-5927 fax __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. 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Cessna" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== >====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > >Announcing .... blah blah blah ... As most here already know and abide by, list policies expressly forbid blatant product or service announcements to the PDF list -- same rules apply for the Capture & PDFdev discussion lists. A BRIEF mention of a product or service, when provided in RESPONSE to a relevant subscriber's question, is generally allowed -- unless abused. However, any such mention should: * be very brief * not include pricing details * make clear the respondent's relationship to the product or company * provide a link or phone number where interested persons can find additional details Again, this is *only* in specific instances where a legitimate user question is posed on the list, and a clearly identified company rep suggests a product or service that might be a solution to the specific problem. Announcements of NEW products or services are allowed ONLY on the _PDF-Announce_ list, which was created for this exact purpose. People on that list want & expect to see postings of a commercial nature. Subscribers to the discussion lists do not. To join PDF-Announce, send ONLY this text in the BODY of a message: subscribe to this administrative address: pdf-announce-request@lists.pdfzone.com You will receive an auto-reply response requiring you to confirm your intent to subscribe. 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Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 31-Oct-1998 0:05:34-GMT,2752;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA19828 for ; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 17:05:33 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA19161; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 17:53:23 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 30 Oct 1998 17:51:18 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA19019; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 17:51:17 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: kfoss@mailbag.com Message-Id: Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 17:49:46 -0600 To: "PDF Mail List" , Dennis Walker From: Kurt Foss Subject: Re: [PDF] list is for user interaction, not sales pitches Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Dennis et al, Tom is correct -- it has *long* been PDF list policy not to allow commercial product or service postings. It is a list for user discussions, not a billboard for companies to hawk their wares. We administer a separate list for this specific purpose, and I strongly urge you to join PDF-Announce if you'd like to receive such postings. I sent the details to this list a short time ago. rgds ~ Kurt === >>This SPAM belongs on the pdf-announce list! > >I disagree; I welcome new product announcements and even a little >marketing by vendors if it's aimed at helping someone solve a problem. >Just my $0.02 worth. ---> PDFzone.COM <--- "An Independent Hub to All Things PDF" Kurt Foss Internet Communications Mgr 579 D'Onofrio Dr. (608)829-0183 Suite 104 EMAIL: mailto:kfoss@pdfzone.com Madison, WI 53719 WWW: http://www.pdfzone.com/ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - "Make haste slowly." - CAESAR AUGUSTUS, quoted by Suetonius in Lives of the Caesars - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 31-Oct-1998 0:31:22-GMT,6291;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA20395 for ; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 17:31:21 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA20447; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 18:15:48 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 30 Oct 1998 18:14:18 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA20320; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 18:14:17 -0600 X-Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated X-Division: Core Technology X-Department: Product Interoperability Analysis X-URL: Message-Id: <4.1.19981030161115.00b86870@mail-303> X-Sender: isaacs@mail-303 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 16:13:18 -0800 To: "Epps, Fred W" From: Dov Isaacs Subject: Re: [PDF] A PDF file which will not print to B&W, color OR Distiller -- SAME PS ERROR! Cc: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id SAA20316 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== The best question might be "what created this particular PDF file?" The driver itself is irrelevant to what happens when you print a PDF file. Acrobat Reader / Exchange produces the PostScript. We might be interested in looking at the file. Could you either point us to it or send it (not to the whole list, obviously)? Thank you. - Dov At 10/30/98 04:01 PM , Epps, Fred W wrote: > >====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > >I am on Windows 95 with Reader 3.01. > >Yesterday I got a PDF file off the web. The on-screen display looked fine, >but when I tried to print it to an HP5M using ADOBEPS4.DRV (4.2.4) and >HPLJ5M_4.PPD I got: > >Error: rangecheck >OffendingCommand: setcolorspace > >Stack: >[/Indexed /DeviceRGB 340 ( > 111JJJRRR ¥¥¥BBB >)] >-savelevel- >-savelevel- >-savelevel- > >I tried printing to an HP4MV using ADOBEPS4.DRV (4.2.4) and HPLJ4MV1.PPD >with the same results. > >I tried printing to an HP Color Laserjet 5M using ADOBEPS4.DRV (4.2.4) and >HPCLJ5X9.PPD with similar results. This time I got: > >Error: rangecheck >OffendingCommand: setcolorspace > >Stack: >[/Indexed [/CIEBBasedABC -dictionary- ]340 ( > 111JJJRRR ¥¥¥BBB >)] >-savelevel- >-savelevel- >-savelevel- > >So, since I think I know something about Acrobat, I postscripted the file >using ADOBEPS4.DRV (4.2.4) and ADISTILM.PPD and tried Distiller 3.02. I got >this in the log! > >%%[ ProductName: Distiller ]%% >%%[ Error: rangecheck; OffendingCommand: setcolorspace ]%% > >Stack: >[/Indexed /DeviceRGB 340 >( € € €€ €€ € >€€ÀÀÀÀÜÀ¦Êð111JJJRRR"""OEOEOE"""oeoeoe¥¥¥BBB­­­µµµ½½½ÆÆÆÞÞÞçççµ­­\) >!!sRR"ZZ¥1\)­1\)ÆB1½9\)µ1!ÆJ9¥9\)­9\)"1!ÎJ1ÆB\)½1ÆJ1s\)¥9!ÎJ\)ÖJ\)Þ1 ÿ9 >Þ"{{J9R!Î1 ÎZ1Îc9Öc1ÎZ\)Öµ¥ÆkBÿïçoekRÞs9Öc\)ç"cï½...)] >-save- >-save- >-save- > > >%%[ Flushing: rest of job (to end-of-file) will be ignored ]%% >%%[ Warning: PostScript error. No PDF file produced. ] %% > >I found this snip of code in the ps file: > >BI > /Width 489 > /Height 128 > /BitsPerComponent 8 > /ColorSpace [/Indexed /DeviceRGB 340 <~ >!!!"L!!!"L!.]S"!!%P"!.Y'"JAAt9^tc`&b4#rR&/Z6$0ekCT8kMuZ;M9^VN/W^[ >Pa%].S>E'Y6:+#@Xf]"=[Cs8e`l?$ThVRGYkP+`F[B6P[+X(o);M84WV(jF$0e(+/ >0tfRr[4riE8i`_..BPTZPVF?,8hn=P.D7GQ`_%t,.2\mA+jN\/ek.CJ0`_56!8`re >HV-:r+V;pR!7"b&c=8lc@kl84.Fto'`bRp@n)p3V;VlITemg/lP[j0qSFF"oBd#d$uAV/&ESHTBYu1#@73hK'k7cE5ZE0uduPeoN#'V.8\Q9&>4US5Ko_N.g&7 >(p.9ZpVr/^HW'Up]tL7qs5'l2@kkZU6H4?Xc?fQSMu])qCZgofeq=%[Mu`%SF/=O^ >cD=^qPSdRa!61O$pU)aEV$InL!8bD1pVpD"[6j>Y!<:o7s427fKJDr/6G8U;@l/L#j8<,V0`dJ[2!+T1es3:WEh>kj7(n?g>`jGfCS-[Ec]fA(i#RCEOHOu^L.CIHScJGsUV*_#uH_o#/ >PeCRkXa?#?>(j:]SAoVsX\,+[P\[*UF1"$9esqDq@rnJ=A"5Qmeu`,G0l*UXPhp27 >S:ks:CNH=U0iB/mPVLJH`_)IM0l%q!N%n4h8i_PZ3K,[AHQd0pCKcs+.7u$UKL-M9 >(bp@l0mbo8F#b(0+V8E40loYu=t)IQ8h"71.<@f]CFM8b;F6%H3I=paF&F`6=r;$I >;M9,:f%-t2[39$q>(hhO6=W?8`Z[rq(cbb2(a1nLPVH[<>'#ogA"4]7KO]\C>'mA3 >>)X:I67Fom8o(7iA"58ON-gf/F,[e1CRfHmN,+*[N1@mS>*MW_N1?E76:,Hc8m5_. >@rkg`naZ/Eq"Xmdn=ZGMJ:N1M!!!$!!<<'!!!*'!!<3'!s8W-!6i[2e!7K@-&C]J#H8Hzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz~>] > /Filter /ASCII85Decode >ID > >Does anybody know what is going on here? I did get one clue from this: > >Today I got a note from Aandi about Quite A Box Of Tricks and I used it to >'look' at the image in the PDF file. It is Indexed RGB (8-bit). I then >converted to CMYK (I tried greyscale also) and it printed fine. > >But I don't really understand what is really going on. > >My concern is: Are there going to be lots of PDF files out there on the web >that cannot be printed? >It is not always possible to read pages and pages of documents on a monitor. >I can print stuff, put it in my briefcase and read is on the way home -- I >ride in a Van Pool! > > > >Fred.W.Epps@Boeing.com > >__________________________________________________________ > >-> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- >*** Sponsorship & Advt. 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Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 31-Oct-1998 0:33:44-GMT,5153;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA20461 for ; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 17:33:43 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA19762; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 18:03:37 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 30 Oct 1998 18:01:56 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA19620; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 18:01:54 -0600 Message-ID: From: "Epps, Fred W" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] A PDF file which will not print to B&W, color OR Distiller -- SAM E PS ERROR! Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 16:01:41 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2407.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id SAB19616 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== I am on Windows 95 with Reader 3.01. Yesterday I got a PDF file off the web. The on-screen display looked fine, but when I tried to print it to an HP5M using ADOBEPS4.DRV (4.2.4) and HPLJ5M_4.PPD I got: Error: rangecheck OffendingCommand: setcolorspace Stack: [/Indexed /DeviceRGB 340 ( 111JJJRRR ¥¥¥BBB )] -savelevel- -savelevel- -savelevel- I tried printing to an HP4MV using ADOBEPS4.DRV (4.2.4) and HPLJ4MV1.PPD with the same results. I tried printing to an HP Color Laserjet 5M using ADOBEPS4.DRV (4.2.4) and HPCLJ5X9.PPD with similar results. This time I got: Error: rangecheck OffendingCommand: setcolorspace Stack: [/Indexed [/CIEBBasedABC -dictionary- ]340 ( 111JJJRRR ¥¥¥BBB )] -savelevel- -savelevel- -savelevel- So, since I think I know something about Acrobat, I postscripted the file using ADOBEPS4.DRV (4.2.4) and ADISTILM.PPD and tried Distiller 3.02. I got this in the log! %%[ ProductName: Distiller ]%% %%[ Error: rangecheck; OffendingCommand: setcolorspace ]%% Stack: [/Indexed /DeviceRGB 340 ( € € €€ €€ € €€ÀÀÀÀÜÀ¦Êð111JJJRRR"""OEOEOE"""oeoeoe¥¥¥BBB­­­µµµ½½½ÆÆÆÞÞÞççç÷÷÷µ­­\) !!sRR"ZZ¥1\)­1\)ÆB1½9\)µ1!ÆJ9¥9\)­9\)"1!ÎJ1ÆB\)½1ÆJ1s\)¥9!ÎJ\)ÖJ\)Þ1 ÿ9 Þ"{{J9R!Î1 ÎZ1Îc9Öc1ÎZ\)Öµ¥ÆkBÿïçoekRÞs9Öc\)ç"cï½...)] -save- -save- -save- %%[ Flushing: rest of job (to end-of-file) will be ignored ]%% %%[ Warning: PostScript error. No PDF file produced. ] %% I found this snip of code in the ps file: BI /Width 489 /Height 128 /BitsPerComponent 8 /ColorSpace [/Indexed /DeviceRGB 340 <~ !!!"L!!!"L!.]S"!!%P"!.Y'"JAAt9^tc`&b4#rR&/Z6$0ekCT8kMuZ;M9^VN/W^[ Pa%].S>E'Y6:+#@Xf]"=[Cs8e`l?$ThVRGYkP+`F[B6P[+X(o);M84WV(jF$0e(+/ 0tfRr[4riE8i`_..BPTZPVF?,8hn=P.D7GQ`_%t,.2\mA+jN\/ek.CJ0`_56!8`re HV-:r+V;pR!7"b&c=8lc@kl84.Fto'`bRp@n)p3V;VlITemg/lP[j0qSF4US5Ko_N.g&7 (p.9ZpVr/^HW'Up]tL7qs5'l2@kkZU6H4?Xc?fQSMu])qCZgofeq=%[Mu`%SF/=O^ cD=^qPSdRa!61O$pU)aEV$InL!8bD1pVpD"[6j>Y!<:o7s427fKJDr/6G8Ukj7(n?g>`jGfCS-[Ec]fA(i#RCEOHOu^L.CIHScJGsUV*_#uH_o#/ PeCRkXa?#?>(j:]SAoVsX\,+[P\[*UF1"$9esqDq@rnJ=A"5Qmeu`,G0l*UXPhp27 S:ks:CNH=U0iB/mPVLJH`_)IM0l%q!N%n4h8i_PZ3K,[AHQd0pCKcs+.7u$UKL-M9 (bp@l0mbo8F#b(0+V8E40loYu=t)IQ8h"71.<@f]CFM8b;F6%H3I=paF&F`6=r;$I ;M9,:f%-t2[39$q>(hhO6=W?8`Z[rq(cbb2(a1nLPVH[<>'#ogA"4]7KO]\C>'mA3 >)X:I67Fom8o(7iA"58ON-gf/F,[e1CRfHmN,+*[N1@mS>*MW_N1?E76:,Hc8m5_. @rkg`naZ/Eq"Xmdn=ZGMJ:N1M!!!$!!<<'!!!*'!!<3'!s8W-!6i[2e!] /Filter /ASCII85Decode ID Does anybody know what is going on here? I did get one clue from this: Today I got a note from Aandi about Quite A Box Of Tricks and I used it to 'look' at the image in the PDF file. It is Indexed RGB (8-bit). I then converted to CMYK (I tried greyscale also) and it printed fine. But I don't really understand what is really going on. My concern is: Are there going to be lots of PDF files out there on the web that cannot be printed? It is not always possible to read pages and pages of documents on a monitor. I can print stuff, put it in my briefcase and read is on the way home -- I ride in a Van Pool! Fred.W.Epps@Boeing.com __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 31-Oct-1998 0:55:27-GMT,2794;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA20868 for ; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 17:55:26 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA21752; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 18:42:12 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 30 Oct 1998 18:40:37 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA21661; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 18:40:36 -0600 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] A PDF file which will not print to B&W, color OR Distiller -- SAME PS ERROR! Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1998 00:24:21 -0000 Message-ID: <000701be0466$b97ffa60$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > Yesterday I got a PDF file off the web. The on-screen display > looked fine, > but when I tried to print it to an HP5M using ADOBEPS4.DRV (4.2.4) and > HPLJ5M_4.PPD I got: > > Error: rangecheck > OffendingCommand: setcolorspace > > Stack: > [/Indexed /DeviceRGB 340 ( > 111JJJRRR ¥¥¥BBB > )] This is a curious error. It suggests (without being definite) that it doesn't allow indexed colours with a palette of 340 colours. Well, 256 is the usual maximum, but PostScript allows up to 4096. Another possibility, though is that the string wasn't exactly 340 colours. That might happen if the string contains binary data and the HP mangled it somehow. It is kind of curious to see, later, an 8-bit image made in this colour space. The image, would only be able to reach part of the palette. Suggests something is not quite right. I'd like to take a look at the PDF file. Can you post the URL where it is to be found? Aandi __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 31-Oct-1998 3:06:06-GMT,6180;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA23298 for ; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 20:06:06 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA27237; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 20:46:29 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 30 Oct 1998 20:44:47 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA27147; Fri, 30 Oct 1998 20:44:44 -0600 Message-ID: <363A7988.14F2F9D@empa.ch> Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1998 03:44:26 +0100 From: Erwin Widmer Organization: EMPA X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: de-CH, en-US MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] A PDF file which will not print to B&W, color OR Distiller -- SAME PS ERROR! References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Fred, In your PDF file is a RGB image. That can't be printed. It has to be transformed to CMYK somewhere. Some RIPs do that for you automatically. Others aren't able to do that trick. A PDF file for the Internet is not the same as a PDF file for printing. Colorspaces and resolutions are the main differences. That will be a problem forever. There are tools to overcome that problem, as you know. Erwin "Epps, Fred W" wrote: > ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > > I am on Windows 95 with Reader 3.01. > > Yesterday I got a PDF file off the web. The on-screen display looked fine, > but when I tried to print it to an HP5M using ADOBEPS4.DRV (4.2.4) and > HPLJ5M_4.PPD I got: > > Error: rangecheck > OffendingCommand: setcolorspace > > Stack: > [/Indexed /DeviceRGB 340 ( > 111JJJRRR ¥¥¥BBB > )] > -savelevel- > -savelevel- > -savelevel- > > I tried printing to an HP4MV using ADOBEPS4.DRV (4.2.4) and HPLJ4MV1.PPD > with the same results. > > I tried printing to an HP Color Laserjet 5M using ADOBEPS4.DRV (4.2.4) and > HPCLJ5X9.PPD with similar results. This time I got: > > Error: rangecheck > OffendingCommand: setcolorspace > > Stack: > [/Indexed [/CIEBBasedABC -dictionary- ]340 ( > 111JJJRRR ¥¥¥BBB > )] > -savelevel- > -savelevel- > -savelevel- > > So, since I think I know something about Acrobat, I postscripted the file > using ADOBEPS4.DRV (4.2.4) and ADISTILM.PPD and tried Distiller 3.02. I got > this in the log! > > %%[ ProductName: Distiller ]%% > %%[ Error: rangecheck; OffendingCommand: setcolorspace ]%% > > Stack: > [/Indexed /DeviceRGB 340 > ( € € €€ €€ € > €€ÀÀÀÀÜÀ|Ê?111JJJRRR"""OEOEOE"""oeoeoe¥¥¥BBB???µµµ***ÆÆÆ???ççç÷÷÷µ??\) > !!sRR"ZZ¥1\)?1\)ÆB1*9\)µ1!ÆJ9¥9\)?9\)"1!ÎJ1ÆB\)*1ÆJ1s\)¥9!ÎJ\)ÖJ\)?1 ÿ9 > ?"{{J9R!Î1 ÎZ1Îc9Öc1ÎZ\)Öµ¥ÆkBÿïçoekR?s9Öc\)ç"cï*...)] > -save- > -save- > -save- > > %%[ Flushing: rest of job (to end-of-file) will be ignored ]%% > %%[ Warning: PostScript error. No PDF file produced. ] %% > > I found this snip of code in the ps file: > > BI > /Width 489 > /Height 128 > /BitsPerComponent 8 > /ColorSpace [/Indexed /DeviceRGB 340 <~ > !!!"L!!!"L!.]S"!!%P"!.Y'"JAAt9^tc`&b4#rR&/Z6$0ekCT8kMuZ;M9^VN/W^[ > Pa%].S>E'Y6:+#@Xf]"=[Cs8e`l?$ThVRGYkP+`F[B6P[+X(o);M84WV(jF$0e(+/ > 0tfRr[4riE8i`_..BPTZPVF?,8hn=P.D7GQ`_%t,.2\mA+jN\/ek.CJ0`_56!8`re > HV-:r+V;pR!7"b&c=8lc@kl84.Fto'`bRp@n)p3V;VlITemg/lP[j0qSF F"oBd#d$uAV/&ESHTBYu1#@73hK'k7cE5ZE0uduPeoN#'V.8\Q9&>4US5Ko_N.g&7 > (p.9ZpVr/^HW'Up]tL7qs5'l2@kkZU6H4?Xc?fQSMu])qCZgofeq=%[Mu`%SF/=O^ > cD=^qPSdRa!61O$pU)aEV$InL!8bD1pVpD"[6j>Y!<:o7s427fKJDr/6G8U ;@l/L#j8<,V0`dJ[2 !+T1es3:WEh>kj7(n?g>`jGfCS-[Ec]fA(i#RCEOHOu^L.CIHScJGsUV*_#uH_o#/ > PeCRkXa?#?>(j:]SAoVsX\,+[P\[*UF1"$9esqDq@rnJ=A"5Qmeu`,G0l*UXPhp27 > S:ks:CNH=U0iB/mPVLJH`_)IM0l%q!N%n4h8i_PZ3K,[AHQd0pCKcs+.7u$UKL-M9 > (bp@l0mbo8F#b(0+V8E40loYu=t)IQ8h"71.<@f]CFM8b;F6%H3I=paF&F`6=r;$I > ;M9,:f%-t2[39$q>(hhO6=W?8`Z[rq(cbb2(a1nLPVH[<>'#ogA"4]7KO]\C>'mA3 > >)X:I67Fom8o(7iA"58ON-gf/F,[e1CRfHmN,+*[N1@mS>*MW_N1?E76:,Hc8m5_. > @rkg`naZ/Eq"Xmdn=ZGMJ:N1M!!!$!!<<'!!!*'!!<3'!s8W-!6i[2e! 7K@-&C]J#H8H zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz~>] > /Filter /ASCII85Decode > ID > > Does anybody know what is going on here? I did get one clue from this: > > Today I got a note from Aandi about Quite A Box Of Tricks and I used it to > 'look' at the image in the PDF file. It is Indexed RGB (8-bit). I then > converted to CMYK (I tried greyscale also) and it printed fine. > > But I don't really understand what is really going on. > > My concern is: Are there going to be lots of PDF files out there on the web > that cannot be printed? > It is not always possible to read pages and pages of documents on a monitor. > I can print stuff, put it in my briefcase and read is on the way home -- I > ride in a Van Pool! > > Fred.W.Epps@Boeing.com > > __________________________________________________________ > > -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- > *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** > + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + > __________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 31-Oct-1998 9:12:49-GMT,3282;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA29825 for ; Sat, 31 Oct 1998 02:12:48 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA09545; Sat, 31 Oct 1998 02:47:46 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 31 Oct 1998 02:43:25 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA09358; Sat, 31 Oct 1998 02:43:23 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19981031034638.007ef160@up.bresnan.net> X-Sender: fosmire@up.bresnan.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1998 03:46:38 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: "M. Sean Fosmire" Subject: [PDF] Re: Optimize PDF for print or monitor? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== I grappled with this issue as it pertains to using Acrobat to display judicial opinions available at web sites maintained by courts, and eventually concluded (as did at least one other person responding) that using both formats would be advantageous. In the context of court sites, many readers will be reading opinions on the screen, and many others will want to print the opinion for later use. The latter use probably still predominates. I posted an Acrobat file discussing the recommendation for what I call "large format PDF" (essentially, landscape orientation and 18 to 20-point type). It is still up, although I recently removed the link to it on the HTML pages. See http://www.courts.net/usepdf.pdf >Should I optimize the appearance of my PDF files for print or for the >monitor? >My technical writing department produces about ten manuals, which we >distribute in PDF format. >Our manuals right now are set up to look nice and read easily when printed. >But they're hell to read online - the type's too small, the pages are >portrait and the monitor is landscape, and so on. >My inclination is to optimize them for the screen, since I think our users >will be reading them mainly on-screen. >Can anyone give me good advice on this issue? >Is anyone aware of a serious study on how people use PDFs? Do people bother >to print them out? Or do they just read them on-screen? ====================================================== M. Sean Fosmire fosmire@up.bresnan.net Fosmire Solka & Stenton, P.C. http://www.afss.com Superior Information Services, Inc. http://www.sismich.com/home.htm ====================================================== __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 31-Oct-1998 12:48:03-GMT,3960;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA03401 for ; Sat, 31 Oct 1998 05:48:02 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA18241; Sat, 31 Oct 1998 06:32:32 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 31 Oct 1998 06:27:38 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA18017; Sat, 31 Oct 1998 06:27:36 -0600 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] A PDF file which will not print to B&W, color OR Distiller -- SAME PS ERROR! Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1998 11:06:24 -0000 Message-ID: <000c01be04c9$7bd448c0$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <000701be0466$b97ffa60$0101c6c0@gateway> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > > Yesterday I got a PDF file off the web. The on-screen display > > looked fine, > > but when I tried to print it to an HP5M using ADOBEPS4.DRV > (4.2.4) and > > HPLJ5M_4.PPD I got: > > > > Error: rangecheck > > OffendingCommand: setcolorspace > > > > Stack: > > [/Indexed /DeviceRGB 340 ( > > 111JJJRRR ¥¥¥BBB > > )] > Ok, here's the diagnosis. Short form: the PDF is faulty. Like a number of other faults it does not show up when displaying on screen, but does show up during printing to a level 2 PostScript printer. The file has no indicator of how it was created, but that shows it was not created by any Acrobat tool. It would be interesting to know what tool created it, if only so the author can fix it. Long form: in the PDF file there is an indexed colour space (palette colour). It is in fact for the usual number of colours - 256. The length of the palette, however, is 1024. Because there are three bytes per colour (it is an RGB-based palette), that means the palette is too long. It seems Acrobat ignores this error when displaying the file. PostScript will almost always give an error, though, if the palette size is wrong for the number of colours. It seems that Acrobat generates PostScript by working out the number of colours from the palette size, rather than by using the quoted size. This would tend to eliminate PostScript errors from palettes that were the wrong size. So it quotes a size of 341. Unfortunately 340*3 = 1023, so the length is still wrong, and cannot be right because 1024 is not divisible by 3. Acrobat could fix this by regenerating the palette to make sure it is the correct length, but it shouldn't have to. All of this serves to highlight that we desperately need a tool to validate PDF files against the specifications in the PDF specification, being picky and precise. Adobe haven't supplied one - perhaps because their own PDF files will fail on a number of counts! But also, perhaps, because they get little direct benefit when someone else writes a PDF generator, and even may benefit indirectly if someone else writes a generator that is not very good. Aandi __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 31-Oct-1998 13:41:24-GMT,2712;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA04243 for ; Sat, 31 Oct 1998 06:41:23 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA21027; Sat, 31 Oct 1998 07:39:13 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 31 Oct 1998 07:36:12 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA20829; Sat, 31 Oct 1998 07:36:09 -0600 X-Sender: prodok@pop.eunet.ch Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1998 14:32:16 +0100 To: PDF List Posting , PDF-DEV Posting From: Max Wyss Subject: [PDFdev] Persistent is not Sender: owner-pdfdev@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdfdev@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDFdev discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== I did play around a bit with the global variables. Global does work properly; I can define a global variable, and it is available for other documents (or the same one if I close and re-open it). However, the setPersistent method seems not to work at all. I have a field named "i-value", where I can enter a value. Then I have a button with the following JavaScript: var ivalu = this.getField("i-value") ; global.setPersistent("ival", true); global.ival = ivalu.value; I also have a Page Open Javascript which loads the "ival" global variable into the field "i-value". When I quit Exchange and restart it and open the document, I get "undefined" in the "i-value" field. This means that the setPersistent function does not work. Or am I doing something wrong?? I am using Exchange 3.01 and the Forms Author 3.5 plug-in on a Mac. Could it be that PitStop or SuperPrefs cause problems? Thanks a lot for all comments. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering AG Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch WWW: http://www.prodok.ch/prodok Bridging the Knowledge Gap __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 31-Oct-1998 13:56:07-GMT,2742;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA04479 for ; Sat, 31 Oct 1998 06:56:06 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA21047; Sat, 31 Oct 1998 07:39:36 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 31 Oct 1998 07:36:12 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA20840; Sat, 31 Oct 1998 07:36:10 -0600 X-Sender: prodok@pop.eunet.ch Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1998 14:32:16 +0100 To: PDF List Posting , PDF-DEV Posting From: Max Wyss Subject: [PDF] Persistent is not Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== I did play around a bit with the global variables. Global does work properly; I can define a global variable, and it is available for other documents (or the same one if I close and re-open it). However, the setPersistent method seems not to work at all. I have a field named "i-value", where I can enter a value. Then I have a button with the following JavaScript: var ivalu = this.getField("i-value") ; global.setPersistent("ival", true); global.ival = ivalu.value; I also have a Page Open Javascript which loads the "ival" global variable into the field "i-value". When I quit Exchange and restart it and open the document, I get "undefined" in the "i-value" field. This means that the setPersistent function does not work. Or am I doing something wrong?? I am using Exchange 3.01 and the Forms Author 3.5 plug-in on a Mac. Could it be that PitStop or SuperPrefs cause problems? Thanks a lot for all comments. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering AG Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch WWW: http://www.prodok.ch/prodok Bridging the Knowledge Gap __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 31-Oct-1998 13:56:07-GMT,2242;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA04478 for ; Sat, 31 Oct 1998 06:56:06 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA21048; Sat, 31 Oct 1998 07:39:36 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 31 Oct 1998 07:34:34 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA20743; Sat, 31 Oct 1998 07:34:32 -0600 Message-ID: <001e01be04d3$ba427280$030010ac@dell2ntsvr1.Office> From: "Greg Pauba" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] list is for user interaction, not sales pitches Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1998 07:38:01 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== . . . A BRIEF mention of a product or service, when provided in RESPONSE to a relevant subscriber's question, is generally allowed -- unless abused. . . Thanks Cessna Publishing for your information on how to solve the following post!! -----Original Message----- From: Greg Pauba To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: Tuesday, October 13, 1998 1:54 PM Subject: Extracting PDF Notes >Does anyone know how to extract notes from a bunch (15,000) of Image only >PDF's? Is there a plug-in or utility? > >TIA > >Greg Pauba __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 1-Nov-1998 2:24:03-GMT,2351;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA18038 for ; Sat, 31 Oct 1998 19:24:02 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA19413; Sat, 31 Oct 1998 20:06:14 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 31 Oct 1998 20:02:46 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA19185; Sat, 31 Oct 1998 20:02:44 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: kfoss@pdfzone.com Message-Id: Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1998 20:05:19 -0600 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: "Gabrielle Fiset" Subject: [PDF] problems with embeded Quicktime Movie Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Help! I'm working on a presentation (due Tuesday of course) that I'm going to burn to a CD and every QuickTime movie I've created in Macromedia Flash I've created is looking awful I've tried all sorts of different compression settings when I've exported my movie to no avail. I've even imported my movie into Adobe Premier and saved it out of there. Is there some compression setting in Exchange that I need to turn off? Help! Help! I've looked all over the web for any information on this subject but I've also found nothing. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, -gab ......________________________________....... Gabrielle Fiset voice 206.448.1200 gabf@wileyco.com fax 206.448.1167 The Wiley Brooks Company http://www.wileyco.com __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. 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