1-Nov-1998 9:33:53-GMT,2472;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA25979 for ; Sun, 1 Nov 1998 02:33:52 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA04218; Sun, 1 Nov 1998 03:20:38 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 1 Nov 1998 03:17:39 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA04079; Sun, 1 Nov 1998 03:17:38 -0600 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] problems with embeded Quicktime Movie Date: Sun, 1 Nov 1998 09:03:49 -0000 Message-ID: <000101be0578$1b362420$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > Help! I'm working on a presentation (due Tuesday of course) > that I'm going > to burn to a CD and every QuickTime movie I've created in > Macromedia Flash > I've created is looking awful I've tried all sorts of > different compression > settings when I've exported my movie to no avail. I've even > imported my > movie into Adobe Premier and saved it out of there. Is there some > compression setting in Exchange that I need to turn off? Acrobat doesn't compress the movies; it doesn't even show the Movies, it asks QuickTime to do it. The only cause I can think of is that the movie will normally be scaled to fit its picture box, and that can degrade the quality and speed. Try checking "Floating Movie". Aandi __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 1-Nov-1998 13:13:19-GMT,2682;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA29304 for ; Sun, 1 Nov 1998 06:13:18 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA11927; Sun, 1 Nov 1998 06:51:56 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 1 Nov 1998 06:49:19 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA11826; Sun, 1 Nov 1998 06:49:18 -0600 X-Sender: tm@193.174.4.1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.1 Date: Sun, 1 Nov 1998 13:34:05 +0100 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Thomas Merz Subject: [PDF] Re: Persistent is not Cc: Max Wyss Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Message-Id: <98Nov1.134849met.140557-3@colin.muc.de> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Max Wyss wrote: > > var ivalu = this.getField("i-value") ; > > global.setPersistent("ival", true); > global.ival = ivalu.value; >I also have a Page Open Javascript which loads the "ival" global variable >into the field "i-value". > >When I quit Exchange and restart it and open the document, I get >"undefined" in the "i-value" field. This means that the setPersistent >function does not work. Or am I doing something wrong?? I used the following idiom to count the number of times a document has been opened: if (global.dps_counter == null) { /* first time? */ global.dps_counter = 1; global.setPersistent("dps_counter", true); } else global.dps_counter++; this.getField("counter").value=global.dps_counter; This JavaScript is included at the document script level and works just fine. Suggestion: try to change the order of the "setPersistent" call and the value assignment. Maybe this helps. Thomas Merz _______________________________________________________________ Thomas Merz, Munich tm@muc.de http://www.ifconnection.de/~tm -- pdfmark Primer -- PDFlib -- Ghostscript manual -- jpeg2ps -- __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 2-Nov-1998 9:24:48-GMT,2416;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA21369 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 02:24:47 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA28043; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 03:06:32 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 2 Nov 1998 03:03:20 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA27909; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 03:03:19 -0600 Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 01:03:16 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199811020903.BAA07723@avocet.prod.itd.earthlink.net> X-Sender: fndsnd@mail.earthlink.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Michael J McGonagle Subject: [PDF] Failed to load application resource Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== I have only been working with PDFlib now for about 4 days. So far I have been able to get all of the examples to compile, but on my first test program (which was really just copied from some of the examples) when run, produces the error message "Failed to load application resource (internal error)" Well, there seems to be nothing on the in any of the literature that I have looked thru. I am working on Windows 95, using Microsoft C++ 5.0, and I am linking to the library (not using the dll). All that the program does so far is to just call the PDFLInit routine, which returns the error code for the message above. I went over my code about 10 times and I still can not see where I am going wrong. I hope that there is someone who has seen this already. Thanks in advance. Michael J McGonagle VolumeOne Chicago, Il 60647 __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 2-Nov-1998 13:24:52-GMT,2014;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA25695 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 06:24:51 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA05728; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 07:06:02 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 2 Nov 1998 07:01:52 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA05437; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 07:01:49 -0600 Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 13:01:36 GMT Message-Id: <199811021301.NAA02080@gilliam.vip.uk.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail and News for Macintosh - 1.1 (34) Subject: [PDF] Form buttons causing Catalogue failure(?) From: john hamlett To: PDF Zone ACROBAT Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== I have a problem in Acrobat Exchange 3.0 using form buttons duplicated throughout a document (for use as a custom interface). The buttons work fine but a conflict arises during the cataloguing process for the document (reaches about page 30 and then returns "failed to build index"). Any advice appreciated. John ------------------------------------------------------------- John Hamlett - LUNAR MULTIMEDIA - www.lunar.co.uk __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 2-Nov-1998 14:16:36-GMT,2778;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA26667 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 07:16:35 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA09548; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 07:58:30 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 2 Nov 1998 07:54:46 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA08711; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 07:54:44 -0600 Message-ID: <163D3E7606B6D011A00600005A40BFD201983474@sgty9900.pgh.wec.com> From: "Pavol, Roberta A." To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Form buttons causing Catalogue failure(?) Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 08:56:13 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Are you running Catalog on the Mac or PC? The Mac version has a problem with form field buttons. You need to run Catalog on the PC side. Roberta > ---------- > From: john hamlett > Reply To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Sent: Monday, November 2, 1998 1:01 PM > To: PDF Zone ACROBAT > Subject: [PDF] Form buttons causing Catalogue failure(?) > > > ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > > > I have a problem in Acrobat Exchange 3.0 using form buttons duplicated > throughout a document (for use as a custom interface). The buttons work > fine > but a conflict arises during the cataloguing process for the document > (reaches about page 30 and then returns "failed to build index"). > > Any advice appreciated. > > John > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > John Hamlett - LUNAR MULTIMEDIA - www.lunar.co.uk > > __________________________________________________________ > > -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- > *** Sponsorship & Advt. 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Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 2-Nov-1998 2:35:52-GMT,2971;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA13521 for ; Sun, 1 Nov 1998 19:35:51 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA10078; Sun, 1 Nov 1998 20:07:54 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 1 Nov 1998 20:00:11 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA09780; Sun, 1 Nov 1998 20:00:05 -0600 Date: Sun, 1 Nov 1998 18:00:02 -0800 (PST) From: Tom Mornini Message-Id: <199811020200.SAA27043@sun630mp.infomania.com> To: pdf-l@emrg.com, tmornini@sun630mp.infomania.com Subject: [PDF] ANNOUNCE - PDF in Prepress mailing list! Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== I am pleased to announce pdf-prepress-l. Earlier there were several messages on pdf-l indicating that people would prefer a separate mailing list for PDF use in prepress. I suggested that I could help, or perhaps run myself, a list for PDF use in high-end prepress environments. Response was very positive, so I decided to put back on my list manager hat, and set up a new list. The name of the list is pdf-prepress-l and it is located at InfoMania Printing and Prepress, a PostScript prepress house in Sacramento, CA. It is handled on a Sun server system, with the latest version of the free mailing list manager, Majordomo. To subscribe to the list, send e-mail to: In the body of the message, enter the text: subscribe pdf-prepress-l or subscribe pdf-prepress-d The second entry will get you a digested version of the list, which sends out a message once 200 lines of pdf-prepress-l accumulate. The list is setup to keep archives. I will put up a web interface to the archives later, but in the meantime they can be accessed as described in the Majordomo help file, which can be mailed to you by sending e-mail to: In the body of the message, enter the text: help and you will get a file describing all you need to know as a member of pdf-prepress-l and/or pdf-prepress-d. Thank you. I will send this announcement to pdf-l once a week to let newcomers know of this development. -- Tom Mornini -- InfoMania __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 2-Nov-1998 14:47:59-GMT,2339;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA27232 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 07:47:58 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA12023; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 08:21:29 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 2 Nov 1998 08:17:33 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA11770; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 08:17:32 -0600 Message-ID: <003d01be066b$a31237a0$8d702399@rickm> From: "Rick Melanson" To: Subject: [PDF] PDF Black Lines Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 09:18:14 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Good Morning Everyone, I am using the Capture plugin on some PDF files and the problem I am seeing is this. When Capture is through processing the file, whether it is 2 pages or 200, there are black lines that run from left to right on all the pages of the captured file. These black lines are arbitrarily placed on the pages and I cannot delete them, cut them, select them, nothing. I have not been using the plugin for very long so if I am overlooking something very simple, please take it easy on me. All I want to do is capture the files without having these black lines added. Help please anyone. Have a good day everyone. Rick Melanson rmelanso@micrion.com Sr. Technical Writer Micrion Corp. __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 2-Nov-1998 14:48:58-GMT,1822;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA27256 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 07:48:53 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA12827; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 08:30:56 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 2 Nov 1998 08:27:24 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA12530; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 08:27:23 -0600 X-Lotus-FromDomain: KEYCORP From: "Karen L Mibus" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <852566B0.004EF2C7.00@keybank.com> Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 09:24:05 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== M. Sean Fosmire: Can you send me a copy of usepdf.pdf? karen_l_mibus@keybank.com You wrote: >I posted an Acrobat file discussing the recommendation for what I call "large format PDF" (essentially, landscape orientation and 18 to 20-point type). It is still up, although I recently removed the link to it on the HTML pages. See http://www.courts.net/usepdf.pdf __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 2-Nov-1998 17:02:27-GMT,2430;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA00768 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 10:02:26 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA23449; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 10:47:37 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 2 Nov 1998 10:45:06 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA23241; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 10:45:04 -0600 X-Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated X-Division: Core Technology X-Department: Product Interoperability Analysis X-URL: Message-Id: <4.1.19981102083710.00977550@mail-303> X-Sender: isaacs@mail-303 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 X-Priority: 1 (Highest) Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 08:43:39 -0800 To: (Recipient list suppressed) From: Dov Isaacs Subject: [PDF] Re: AdobePS 5.0.1 In-Reply-To: <4.1.19981030130241.00a41490@mail-303> References: <176960BF10FFD111901800A0C9B3FA5A1F87FF@ntmail01.pc.sas.com > Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Late Friday, I sent out what we hoped was good news about the availability of the AdobePS 5.0.1 driver for Windows NT 4.0. We have since learned that the Adobe web team did put the proper "front" web pages up describing the updates, but did not yet post the actual drivers themselves. We have alerted them to the problem and the need to quickly finish the task. I will alert these mailing lists when we have fully ascertained that the 5.0.1 versions have been fully and properly placed on our FTP server. We are very sorry for the inconvenience that we may caused you. - Dov __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 2-Nov-1998 17:03:53-GMT,2816;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA00686 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 09:59:36 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA22251; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 10:31:18 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 2 Nov 1998 10:28:41 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA22072; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 10:28:39 -0600 Message-ID: From: To: Subject: [PDF] Date format in Acrobat Reader and Catalog. Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 17:28:25 +0100 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id KAA22066 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Hi All. We seem to have a strange problem, we are based in Denmark and use therefor the format dd/mm/yyyy. When using Acrobat Reader (v.3.x) with search the input mask is correct, that is dd/mm/yyyy but it seems that our index is in mm/dd/yyyy format ! Using Reader gives a bit of a problem because it will not accept a search for ie. 13/12-1998 (13 Dec 1998) because off the limit in the month field. We can use the "Document Info fields" and search in the "Find Results Containing Text" window like: CreationDate >= 21 Oct 1998 & CreationDate <= 27 Oct 1998 But it would be better to be able to use the Date field's in "With Date Info". I have tried to most obvious things, like ensuring setting the date format to Danish on computers using Acrobat Reader and same thing on the Server (Windows NT 4 SP4) running Acrobat Catalog (v.3.01). Deleting the Index and do a complete new catalog. But so far no success. (Danish hot-line has not yet come up with any thing) In advance thanks. IT manager Jan Ove Østergaard Mailto:jSPAMOUT@comet.dk COMET The Copenhagen Metro Construction Group Refshalevej 147 1020 København K __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 2-Nov-1998 17:40:54-GMT,4195;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA01787 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 10:40:49 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA25612; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 11:13:49 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 2 Nov 1998 11:11:15 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA25347; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 11:11:12 -0600 Message-ID: <363DB006.7001@archangel.net> Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 13:13:46 +0000 From: Shane Steinman Organization: ArchAngel Media Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Date format in Acrobat Reader and Catalog. References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Hi Jan, Unless I'm mistaken, this appears to be a bug in Catalog regarding the storage of date information in US format regardless of the country-specific datestamp being applied when the pages are catalogued. It seems that you have tried the most likely remedies and, while I can't contribute any worthwhile solutions, I can sympathize with your problem. Most countries (like Denmark and Canada) use the dd/mm/yyyy convention since it logically sorts time by smallest increment (day) to largest (year). Unfortunately, the US decided a while ago to follow the pattern of common speech whereby people state the month prior to the day. eg. October 27th, 1998 While Canada (officially) endorses the dd/mm/yyyy format, most people choose to run US versions of software so that we don't run afoul of our US counterparts - which collectively make up our largest trading partner. I tried a short test and cannot find a problem with Reader's search, only with the Catalog-embedded date format. Watching for an answer myself. Regards, Shane Jano@comet.dk wrote: > We seem to have a strange problem, we are based in Denmark and > use therefor the format dd/mm/yyyy. > > When using Acrobat Reader (v.3.x) with search the input mask is correct, > that is > dd/mm/yyyy but it seems that our index is in mm/dd/yyyy format ! > Using Reader gives a bit of a problem because it will not accept a > search > for ie. 13/12-1998 (13 Dec 1998) because off the limit in the month > field. > > We can use the "Document Info fields" and search in the "Find Results > Containing Text" window like: > > CreationDate >= 21 Oct 1998 & CreationDate <= 27 Oct 1998 > > But it would be better to be able to use the Date field's in "With Date > Info". > > I have tried to most obvious things, like ensuring setting the date > format to Danish on computers using Acrobat Reader and same thing on the > Server (Windows NT 4 SP4) running Acrobat Catalog (v.3.01). > Deleting the Index and do a complete new catalog. > > But so far no success. (Danish hot-line has not yet come up with any > thing) -- Shane Steinman Technical Director =================================================================== ArchAngel Media Inc. 555 Sheppard Ave. West, Suite 910 Toronto, Ontario, CANADA M3H 2R7 ================================= Tel. or Fax: (416) 410-6366 E-mail: shane@archangel.net Web: http://www.archangel.net __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 2-Nov-1998 19:04:27-GMT,4385;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA03986 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 12:04:21 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA00663; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 12:48:20 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 2 Nov 1998 12:44:43 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA00396; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 12:44:42 -0600 Message-ID: <812683BD972BD111B9AA00805F956EE37394D9@tac-nt-exch3.russell.com> From: "Keith, Derek (IMB_Technology)" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Differences in optimized file sizes Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 10:40:18 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Aandi, I copied my co-workers form plug-in. Her filename was actually AFORM32.API. I double checked the version in help/about and confirmed I now had version 1.0, same as her. I optimized the same file as before and got the same result - a larger file than when she optimizes it. I asked another person here to optimize the same file. She got the same results as I did; she has the form Plug-in 1.0 and Exchange 3.00. I also checked the versions of the optimizer and we all have 2.0. Any other ideas? Thanks, Derek > ---------- > From: Aandi Inston[SMTP:quite@dial.pipex.com] > Reply To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Sent: Friday, October 30, 1998 4:50 AM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: RE: [PDF] Differences in optimized file sizes > > > ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > > Try with the old forms author (just copy AFILL32.API from the > old system, keeping your new copy safe). I'd be interested in > the results. > > Optimization has two jobs to do, and its rather a pity that it > has only one switch. > > On the one hand it giveth: if you used ASCII or forgot to > compress text and line art, this is sorted, and sometimes duplicate > elements will be detected so they are only stored once. So the > file gets smaller. > > On the other hand it taketh: the file is "linearized" (to use the > technical term) for web downloading, which adds extra indexing > information and rearranges the elements of the file. > > I might speculate that the new forms author helps out with > linearization, by splitting up forms and perhaps other annotations > on a per-page basis. I haven't looked at this internally, but > I have seen other examples where the new forms author causes > files to grow alarmingly. If the file contains named destinations, > which Frame includes, it may be another candidate for this behaviour. > > Aandi > > > > No, it turns out we don't have the same versions. > > I have Exchange 3.01 with Forms Author 3.5 > > My co-worker has Exchange 3.00 with Forms 1.0 > > The PDF that I noticed the difference on does not contain any > > form objects. > > > > > > > > > > I have an unoptimized PDF file that is 2.17 MB. When I > > > > optimize it using > > > > Exchange, I get it down to 651K. When a co-worker > > optimizes the same > > > > unoptimized PDF file, she gets it down to 520K. > > > > > > > Are you running the same release of Exchange? > > > Are you running the same version of the forms filler/author? > > __________________________________________________________ > > -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- > *** Sponsorship & Advt. 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Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 2-Nov-1998 19:04:58-GMT,1926;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA04012 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 12:04:52 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA00665; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 12:48:25 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 2 Nov 1998 12:44:55 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA00421; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 12:44:54 -0600 X-Lotus-FromDomain: KEYCORP From: "Karen L Mibus" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <852566B0.00669476.00@keybank.com> Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 13:41:38 -0500 Subject: [PDF] Keywords in Acrobat Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== When I add keywords to a PDF file and then try to search on those words, some keywords will not display the PDF file in the search results list. Apparently, keywords that are longer than 9 characters do not work. Has anyone else had this problem? Is the problem dependent on what search engine is used? I'm testing the keyword search on a Windows NT server, a Microsoft Internet Information Server with Service Pack 4.0. --Karen __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 2-Nov-1998 18:49:47-GMT,3078;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA03644 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 11:49:41 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA31490; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 12:22:20 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 2 Nov 1998 12:19:46 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA31306; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 12:19:44 -0600 Message-ID: <003601be068d$795ac5e0$9f712399@rickm> From: "Rick Melanson" To: Subject: Fw: [PDF] PDF Black Lines Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 13:19:52 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Hello Again All, I am unsure if the post below made it to the list, can someone reply to me so I know if it got there or not. Thanks a bunch. -----Original Message----- From: Rick Melanson To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: Monday, November 02, 1998 9:21 AM Subject: [PDF] PDF Black Lines > >====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > >Good Morning Everyone, > >I am using the Capture plugin on some PDF files and the problem I am seeing >is this. When Capture is through processing the file, whether it is 2 pages >or 200, there are black lines that run from left to right on all the pages >of the captured file. These black lines are arbitrarily placed on the pages >and I cannot delete them, cut them, select them, nothing. I have not been >using the plugin for very long so if I am overlooking something very simple, >please take it easy on me. All I want to do is capture the files without >having these black lines added. Help please anyone. Have a good day >everyone. > >Rick Melanson >rmelanso@micrion.com >Sr. Technical Writer >Micrion Corp. > > >__________________________________________________________ > >-> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- >*** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** >+ For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + >__________________________________________________________ > > __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 2-Nov-1998 21:28:09-GMT,2324;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA08009 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 14:28:03 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA10508; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:06:18 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:03:25 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA10330; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:03:23 -0600 Message-Id: <199811022103.PAA10325@everglades.binc.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.01 (295) Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 13:05:37 +0000 Subject: Re: [PDF] problems with embeded Quicktime Movie From: "Gabrielle Fiset" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Thanks, it worked like a charm but is there any way to make the shadow box go away when the movie is running so it looks like it's not hovering above the page but part of it. > >Acrobat doesn't compress the movies; it doesn't even show the >Movies, it asks QuickTime to do it. > >The only cause I can think of is that the movie will normally >be scaled to fit its picture box, and that can degrade the quality >and speed. Try checking "Floating Movie". > >Aandi ......________________________________....... Gabrielle Fiset voice 206.448.1200 gabf@wileyco.com fax 206.448.1167 The Wiley Brooks Company http://www.wileyco.com __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 2-Nov-1998 21:28:37-GMT,2742;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA08016 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 14:28:11 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA10757; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:09:22 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:07:13 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA10607; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:07:10 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.32.19981102150540.006bca0c@omnipress.com> X-Sender: uschan@omnipress.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 15:05:40 -0600 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Christopher Uschan Subject: [PDF] Converting from MS-word to PDF Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Hello- In converting a MS word (win95) document containing graphics (either scanned or digital)to PDF via Distiller or PDFWriter driver, the on-screen viewing specific to these page with graphics have a vertical line on the right side of the "graphic box" or a horizontal line on the bottom of the "graphic box." (((Graphic box being the image size box from the native word file))) When printed, the line (1pt in line weight) also appears. What makes this situation odd is that this is a random issue. As in, the same PDF file can be opened on 2 separate computers and sometimes the line is there, sometime it is not. Also, if you zoom in, the line disappears... leading me to believe that this could be a display driver problem, however, why would that affect the printed output (600dpi HP postscript) What would cause that line to appear? Is this a compression or downsampling setting in distiller or pdfwriter? Christopher Uschan ---------------------------------------------------- Technology Manager - OMNIPRESS ph: 608-246-2600 fax: 608-246-4237 check us out --> 0000,0000,ffffhttp://www.omnipress.com __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 2-Nov-1998 22:09:41-GMT,2290;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA09088 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:09:26 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA13468; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:46:45 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:44:21 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA13248; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:44:19 -0600 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] problems with embeded Quicktime Movie Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 21:26:33 -0000 Message-ID: <000901be06a9$9976ec20$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-Reply-To: <199811022103.PAA10325@everglades.binc.net> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Good news. But I'll have to pass on that one. Aandi > Thanks, it worked like a charm but is there any way to make > the shadow box > go away when the movie is running so it looks like it's not > hovering above > the page but part of it. > > > > >Acrobat doesn't compress the movies; it doesn't even show the > >Movies, it asks QuickTime to do it. > > > >The only cause I can think of is that the movie will normally > >be scaled to fit its picture box, and that can degrade the quality > >and speed. Try checking "Floating Movie". __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 2-Nov-1998 22:10:29-GMT,2363;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA09108 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:10:24 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA13469; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:46:47 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:44:24 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA13270; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:44:22 -0600 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Failed to load application resource Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 21:41:15 -0000 Message-ID: <000a01be06a9$9b222b20$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-Reply-To: <199811020903.BAA07723@avocet.prod.itd.earthlink.net> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > > I have only been working with PDFlib now for about 4 days. So > far I have > been able to get all of the examples to compile, but on my first test > program (which was really just copied from some of the > examples) when run, > produces the error message > > "Failed to load application resource (internal error)" If you are making an .EXE, you are not including the necessary .RC resources in your project. If you are making a DLL, you are not setting the appropriate hInstance in the parameters for PDFLInit. Aandi > __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 2-Nov-1998 23:44:22-GMT,1747;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA11555 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 16:44:21 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA19652; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 17:23:25 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 2 Nov 1998 17:20:37 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA19438; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 17:20:36 -0600 Message-ID: <363ECB14.90230D2F@realworld.com.au> Date: Tue, 03 Nov 1998 10:21:26 +0100 From: Dean Laffan X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Quicktime in 3.02 ? References: <163D3E7606B6D011A00600005A40BFD201983474@sgty9900.pgh.wec.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Has anyone has tested QT3 in 3.02 or do we still need to wait for V4 ? Dean Real World __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 3-Nov-1998 1:46:25-GMT,3615;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA14801 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 18:46:24 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA26517; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 19:27:52 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 2 Nov 1998 19:25:23 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA26378; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 19:25:22 -0600 Message-ID: <363E5B46.5294206C@glyphica.com> Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 17:24:22 -0800 From: Christine Guenther X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Converting from MS-word to PDF References: <3.0.32.19981102150540.006bca0c@omnipress.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Christopher, I believe I've seen those random lines before. Not in a Word to PDF context, but going from Capture Reviewer (.acd) to .pdf. We did some tests and found that the lines were a by-product of downsampling. Try without, maybe that does the trick. Christine Guenther .......................................... Glyphica - Content Management & Production http://www.glyphica.com PurePDF: The Acrobat Info Source on the Web http://www.purePDF.com .......................................... Christopher Uschan wrote: > ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM > Hello- > > In converting a MS word (win95) document containing graphics (either scanned or digital)to PDF via Distiller or PDFWriter driver, the on-screen viewing specific to these page with graphics have a vertical line on the right side of the "graphic box" or a horizontal line on the bottom of the "graphic box." (((Graphic box being the image size box from the native word file))) When printed, the line (1pt in line weight) also appears. > > What makes this situation odd is that this is a random issue. As in, the same PDF file can be opened on 2 separate computers and sometimes the line is there, sometime it is not. Also, if you zoom in, the line disappears... leading me to believe that this could be a display driver problem, however, why would that affect the printed output (600dpi HP postscript) > > What would cause that line to appear? Is this a compression or downsampling setting in distiller or pdfwriter? > > Christopher Uschan > ---------------------------------------------------- > Technology Manager - OMNIPRESS > > ph: 608-246-2600 > fax: 608-246-4237 > > check us out --> http://www.omnipress.com > __________________________________________________________ > -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" *** Sponsorship & Advt. 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Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 3-Nov-1998 17:38:42-GMT,1996;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA04210 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 10:38:37 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA09200; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 11:11:18 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 3 Nov 1998 11:04:57 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA08696; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 11:04:55 -0600 Message-ID: <004c01be074b$e0541120$1e0d9fcf@default> From: "Jim and Marguerite Ripley" To: Subject: [PDF] PDF PRINTING Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 09:03:18 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2120.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2120.0 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== I placed a graphic on a page in a PDF file as an icon using the form tool. The page prints with text but sans the graphic. Is this just the way Acrobat is designed to respond? Acrobat 3.01, Win95, HP LaserJet 5L, text with grayscale picture. Jim Ripley 50 Rancho del Sol Camino, California 95709 USA Vox 530.644.8078 Fax 530.644.6932 jripley@ns.net __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 3-Nov-1998 17:57:46-GMT,3083;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA04614 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 10:57:33 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA11168; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 11:35:05 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 3 Nov 1998 11:32:49 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA11008; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 11:32:48 -0600 Message-ID: <00b401be074f$c5ba8a20$b2c314d1@Prometheus.main> From: "Ian Lurie" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF PRINTING Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 09:31:16 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Jim, You may have set the button to the 'Do Not Print' setting. That would explain what you're seeing. To check this, right-click the button in Exchange, then click the 'Appearance' tab. If the 'Don't Print' checkbox is checked, that's probably the problem... Ian Lurie The Written Word, Inc. Information Design Online, On Paper, and On the Web email: ian@writtenword.com web: www.writtenword.com "Vox audita perit, litera scripta manet" The spoken word perishes, the written word remains -----Original Message----- From: Jim and Marguerite Ripley To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: Tuesday, November 03, 1998 9:25 AM Subject: [PDF] PDF PRINTING > >====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > >I placed a graphic on a page in a PDF file as an icon using the form tool. >The page prints with text but sans the graphic. > >Is this just the way Acrobat is designed to respond? > >Acrobat 3.01, Win95, HP LaserJet 5L, text with grayscale picture. > >Jim Ripley >50 Rancho del Sol >Camino, California 95709 USA >Vox 530.644.8078 >Fax 530.644.6932 >jripley@ns.net > > >__________________________________________________________ > >-> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- >*** Sponsorship & Advt. 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Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 3-Nov-1998 20:22:39-GMT,3437;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA08685 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 13:22:38 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA20483; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 14:01:36 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 3 Nov 1998 13:58:30 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA20235; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 13:58:28 -0600 Message-ID: <007801be0764$1f9476a0$1e0d9fcf@default> From: "Jim and Marguerite Ripley" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF PRINTING Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 11:56:30 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2120.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2120.0 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== I am sorry that I failed to mention that I had already looked at this possibility and found the box unchecked. Any other clues from anyone. From: Ian Lurie >Jim, > >You may have set the button to the 'Do Not Print' setting. That would >explain what you're seeing. To check this, right-click the button in >Exchange, then click the 'Appearance' tab. If the 'Don't Print' checkbox is >checked, that's probably the problem... > >Ian Lurie > >The Written Word, Inc. >Information Design Online, On Paper, and On the Web >email: ian@writtenword.com >web: www.writtenword.com > >"Vox audita perit, litera scripta manet" >The spoken word perishes, the written word remains > >-----Original Message----- >From: Jim and Marguerite Ripley >>> >>I placed a graphic on a page in a PDF file as an icon using the form tool. >>The page prints with text but sans the graphic. >> >>Is this just the way Acrobat is designed to respond? >> >>Acrobat 3.01, Win95, HP LaserJet 5L, text with grayscale picture. >> >>Jim Ripley >>50 Rancho del Sol >>Camino, California 95709 USA >>Vox 530.644.8078 >>Fax 530.644.6932 >>jripley@ns.net >> >> >>__________________________________________________________ >> >>-> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- >>*** Sponsorship & Advt. 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Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 3-Nov-1998 21:33:56-GMT,2810;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA10495 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 14:33:54 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA25015; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 15:13:34 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 3 Nov 1998 15:09:54 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA24772; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 15:09:53 -0600 Message-ID: <002f01be076e$67dbaf00$d9702399@rickm> From: "Rick Melanson" To: Subject: [PDF] Black Lines Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 16:10:00 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== I sent the below message to the list but I did not hear from anyone except Wolfgang Ziegler. BUT I got lucky and found the fix myself. I was getting the PDF files from a network drive. I would Capture the files over the network. Now I copy the PDF file to my hard drive, then begin the capture process and Voila, no more black lines. I hope my sharing this with everyone helps someone else somewhere. Have a good day all. Rock Melanson rmelanso@micrion.com >Good Morning Everyone, > >I am using the Capture plugin on some PDF files and the problem I am seeing >is this. When Capture is through processing the file, whether it is 2 pages >or 200, there are black lines that run from left to right on all the pages >of the captured file. These black lines are arbitrarily placed on the pages >and I cannot delete them, cut them, select them, nothing. I have not been >using the plugin for very long so if I am overlooking something very simple, >please take it easy on me. All I want to do is capture the files without >having these black lines added. Help please anyone. Have a good day >everyone. > >Rick Melanson >rmelanso@micrion.com >Sr. Technical Writer >Micrion Corp. __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 4-Nov-1998 5:38:28-GMT,1863;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA21505 for ; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 22:38:27 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA20449; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 23:38:10 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 3 Nov 1998 23:33:15 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA20187; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 23:33:13 -0600 Message-ID: <01BE07F6.FC89EF80@min.minmet.com.au> From: Min Chen To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] How to create PDF on the fly? Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 13:28:11 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id XAA20183 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Our web application allows user to enter a search criteria, once the job is submitted, I would like to generate the pdf files to display the results. All the data is stored in MS SQL Server 6.5. Internet informatin server is used. Any suggestions? min __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 4-Nov-1998 15:37:16-GMT,2536;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA02819 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 08:37:10 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA17888; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 09:36:22 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 4 Nov 1998 09:31:49 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA17455; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 09:31:43 -0600 Message-ID: <36407483.456C4AE3@i2000.es> Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 16:36:35 +0100 From: Alvaro de la Hera Martinez X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [es] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Doculex Capture versus Adobe Capture Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Hello, I have involved in a project to convert 50.000 documents per day to electronic format. The electronic documents must to be published in the Internet, so I have decided to use Adobe PDF format. To do that, we have selected two tools: - Adobe Capture 2.0, or - Doculex Capture to scan the documents and perform the OCR and the Doculex PDF-it module to convert the output of Doculex Capture to PDF. Which is better ? People of Doculex say that their OCR is better than the OCR of Adobe Acrobat, what do you think ? Have anybody use the Doculex PDF-it module ? How does It work ? Thanks in advanced. -- A H | A H | Interlinea2000 Comunicaciones, S.A. AAAAHHHHMMMM | Kaskotegi 4, bajo A A M M | 20.305 Irun (Spain) AAAA M | Telephone: 34-43-619101 | Fax: 34-43-618159 Alvaro de la Hera Martinez | __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 4-Nov-1998 16:06:13-GMT,2091;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA03584 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 09:06:12 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA21821; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 10:05:50 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 4 Nov 1998 10:02:24 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA21487; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 10:02:22 -0600 Message-ID: <000d01be080c$4dad8600$b2c314d1@Prometheus.main> From: "Ian Lurie" To: "PDFZone" Subject: [PDF] Reader with Search Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 07:57:38 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Has anyone else out there tried to download Reader with Search lately? I'm trying to download the Win 95 version, and keep getting a 'not available for this platform and language (English)' message... Ian Lurie The Written Word, Inc. Information Design Online, On Paper, and On the Web email: ian@writtenword.com web: www.writtenword.com "Vox audita perit, litera scripta manet" The spoken word perishes, the written word remains __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 4-Nov-1998 16:30:39-GMT,2209;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA04260 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 09:30:38 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA23926; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 10:30:02 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 4 Nov 1998 10:26:27 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA23573; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 10:26:25 -0600 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Reader with Search Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 16:23:42 -0000 Message-ID: <002101be080f$8583eda0$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <000d01be080c$4dad8600$b2c314d1@Prometheus.main> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > Has anyone else out there tried to download Reader with > Search lately? I'm > trying to download the Win 95 version, and keep getting a > 'not available for > this platform and language (English)' message... Yes, it does seem to be. It is on the Adobe FTP site though. I'm puzzled as to why people download it at all though - it is available on the Acrobat Reader CDROM, and if a person is creating indexes they will surely have that. What am I missing? Aandi __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 4-Nov-1998 16:38:05-GMT,2737;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA04442 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 09:37:56 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA24697; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 10:37:46 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 4 Nov 1998 10:33:56 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA24280; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 10:33:54 -0600 Message-ID: From: "Epps, Fred W" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Reader with Search Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 08:33:33 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2407.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Cute! Adobe puts Reader 3.02 on their web site without search and then removes Reader 3.01 with search. Fred.W.Epps@Boeing.com > ---------- > From: Ian Lurie[SMTP:wrttnwrd@nwlink.com] > Reply To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Sent: Wednesday, 04 November, 1998 07:57 AM > To: PDFZone > Subject: [PDF] Reader with Search > > > ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > > Has anyone else out there tried to download Reader with Search lately? I'm > trying to download the Win 95 version, and keep getting a 'not available > for > this platform and language (English)' message... > > Ian Lurie > > The Written Word, Inc. > Information Design Online, On Paper, and On the Web > email: ian@writtenword.com > web: www.writtenword.com > > "Vox audita perit, litera scripta manet" > The spoken word perishes, the written word remains > > > > __________________________________________________________ > > -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- > *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** > + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + > __________________________________________________________ > __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 4-Nov-1998 16:54:57-GMT,2820;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA04915 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 09:54:56 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA26090; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 10:54:34 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 4 Nov 1998 10:51:13 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA25709; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 10:51:11 -0600 Message-ID: From: Nathan Keller To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] Reader with Search Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 08:51:19 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== That is because you are downloading 3.02 and they do not have that version available yet. You should be able to find the older version archived somewhere on their site I would think. Sincerely, Nathan Keller Technical Support Career Guidance Foundation nathank@cgf.org (800) 854-2670 http://www.collegesource.org -----Original Message----- From: Ian Lurie [mailto:wrttnwrd@nwlink.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 1998 7:58 AM To: PDFZone Subject: [PDF] Reader with Search ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Has anyone else out there tried to download Reader with Search lately? I'm trying to download the Win 95 version, and keep getting a 'not available for this platform and language (English)' message... Ian Lurie The Written Word, Inc. Information Design Online, On Paper, and On the Web email: ian@writtenword.com web: www.writtenword.com "Vox audita perit, litera scripta manet" The spoken word perishes, the written word remains __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 4-Nov-1998 17:00:57-GMT,2550;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA04995 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 10:00:56 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA26668; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 11:00:37 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 4 Nov 1998 10:57:19 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA26331; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 10:57:17 -0600 Message-ID: From: Nathan Keller To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] Reader with Search Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 08:57:26 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== For us, the benefit to 3.02, which is what is on the site (only not in Reader with Search form), is that it includes the Active X byteserving fix. For our customers, the CD ROM is not an option because they don't have it. And, those that use MSIE will have an easier time of things since 3.02 includes the Active X byteserving fix. Sincerely, Nathan Keller Technical Support Career Guidance Foundation nathank@cgf.org (800) 854-2670 http://www.collegesource.org Yes, it does seem to be. It is on the Adobe FTP site though. I'm puzzled as to why people download it at all though - it is available on the Acrobat Reader CDROM, and if a person is creating indexes they will surely have that. What am I missing? __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 4-Nov-1998 17:44:59-GMT,4116;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA06062 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 10:44:47 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA30357; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 11:43:52 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 4 Nov 1998 11:36:48 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA29624; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 11:36:44 -0600 Message-ID: <3640908A.BF78BFDD@emtex.com> Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 17:36:10 +0000 From: Chris Cooper Organization: Emtex Ltd. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en-GB,en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Reader with Search References: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------FB41AB30E804A191E1B873CA" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== --------------FB41AB30E804A191E1B873CA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Nathan Keller wrote: > That is because you are downloading 3.02 and they do not have that version > available yet. You should be able to find the older version archived > somewhere on their site I would think. I've had a look and couldn't find it on the Adobe web site (although it may be hidden somewhere) - and the ftp site was busy and wouldn't let me in, so it may be available there. In English they have 3.02 without Search and that's all. In International (i.e. *not* English) they have 3.01 with and without Search but not 3.02. However a quick poke round led me to one of the mirrors, your very own PDFzone, which seems to still have it available in English (although I haven't actually downloaded it to check) - I'll take their word for it. The link is: http://www.emerge.pdfzone.com/products/software/download.cgi Hope it helps. Cheers, Chris (the big one) Emtex Ltd, Watford, UK "Tall, dark and gruesome - and then I grew some more!" --------------FB41AB30E804A191E1B873CA Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Nathan Keller wrote:
That is because you are downloading 3.02 and they do not have that version
available yet. You should be able to find the older version archived
somewhere on their site I would think.
I've had a look and couldn't find it on the Adobe web site (although it may be hidden somewhere) - and the ftp site was busy and wouldn't let me in, so it may be available there. In English they have 3.02 without Search and that's all. In International (i.e. *not* English) they have 3.01 with and without Search but not 3.02.

However a quick poke round led me to one of the mirrors, your very own PDFzone, which seems to still have it available in English (although I haven't actually downloaded it to check) - I'll take their word for it.

The link is: http://www.emerge.pdfzone.com/products/software/download.cgi

Hope it helps.

Cheers, Chris (the big one)

Emtex Ltd, Watford, UK

"Tall, dark and gruesome - and then I grew some more!" --------------FB41AB30E804A191E1B873CA-- __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 4-Nov-1998 18:07:24-GMT,1817;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA06709 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 11:07:23 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA32656; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 12:07:00 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 4 Nov 1998 12:03:29 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA32310; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 12:03:27 -0600 Message-ID: <97F39596DEEECF11BC020000C09361E55D3DB2@mv_exchange_2.mv.unisys.com> From: "Teague, Tommy K" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] Reader with Search Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 10:02:00 -0800 Importance: high X-Priority: 1 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Acrobat Reader with Search 3.01 still seems to be available at the Adobe ftp site: ftp://ftp.adobe.com/pub/adobe/acrobatreader/win/3.x/ The file you need to download (English, 32-bit) is rs32e301.exe. Tommy Teague Unisys Corporation __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 4-Nov-1998 18:18:24-GMT,2496;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA07041 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 11:18:18 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA00916; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 12:17:28 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 4 Nov 1998 12:14:09 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA00583; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 12:14:06 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19981104132422.00845950@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 13:24:22 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: RE: [PDF] Reader with Search In-Reply-To: <002101be080f$8583eda0$0101c6c0@gateway> References: <000d01be080c$4dad8600$b2c314d1@Prometheus.main> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > >> Has anyone else out there tried to download Reader with >> Search lately? I'm >> trying to download the Win 95 version, and keep getting a >> 'not available for >> this platform and language (English)' message... > >Yes, it does seem to be. It is on the Adobe FTP site though. > >I'm puzzled as to why people download it at all though - >it is available on the Acrobat Reader CDROM, and if a person >is creating indexes they will surely have that. What am >I missing? > >Aandi > > But suppose I want to distribute indexed PDFs to others? I'd want to a) Point them at a site where the right version of Reader could be downloaded (preferably the latest, most fixed) and b) First go there myself to be certain that I'm not sending them on a wild goose chase Steve Rindsberg/Prez RDP http://www.rdpslides.com __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 4-Nov-1998 18:31:26-GMT,2907;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA07333 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 11:31:20 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA01930; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 12:30:58 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 4 Nov 1998 12:27:33 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA01640; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 12:27:31 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: kfoss@mailbag.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3640908A.BF78BFDD@emtex.com> References: Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 12:25:50 -0600 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Kurt Foss Subject: Re: [PDF] Reader with Search Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id MAA01636 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Yes, the current version hosted at PDFzone.COM is still v.301 with Search, as we've not been told (as a mirror site) that Reader 3.02 was now available for downloading with Search. rgds ~ Kurt === >Chris Cooper wrote: > >However a quick poke round led me to one of the mirrors, your very own >PDFzone, which seems to still have it available in English (although I >haven't actually downloaded it to check) - I'll take their word for it. > >The link is: >http://www.emerge. >pdfzone.com/products/software/download.cgis/software/download.cgi> ---> PDFzone.COM <--- "An Independent Hub to All Things PDF" Kurt Foss Internet Communications Mgr 579 D'Onofrio Dr. (608)829-0183 Suite 104 EMAIL: mailto:kfoss@pdfzone.com Madison, WI 53719 WWW: http://www.pdfzone.com/ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - "Make haste slowly." - CAESAR AUGUSTUS, quoted by Suetonius in Lives of the Caesars - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 4-Nov-1998 19:09:38-GMT,2562;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA09676 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 12:09:36 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA04765; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 13:08:36 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 4 Nov 1998 13:05:54 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA04533; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 13:05:51 -0600 Message-ID: <3640A599.A0F72597@mediaone.net> Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 14:06:01 -0500 From: Eric Jacobson X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.07 [en] (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdfdev@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDFdev] Followup: Now my annotations won't come back! References: <01BE07F3.C3B63C20.george_saridakis@silanis.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdfdev@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdfdev@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDFdev discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== George Saridakis wrote: > It also appears that you are specifying a default appearance of > "/Failed" that is not defined in your normal appearance dictionary.... > > Well, I kind of sloppily abbreviated my annotation structure when I wrote > it out... I don't think that would be the problem if I know that the annot > is there and visible at least in printed form, would it? So is it defined or not? Pdfspec, section 6.6.3 says: "Note The viewer should attempt to provide reasonable behavior (e.g. display nothing) if the sub-appearance named by the AS key is not present in the N, R, or D dictionaries." The other question is whether the drawing function specified in the handler for your annotation type is doing something other than the default behavior. You might try moving the plugin that provides the signature annotation type out of the plugin directory and loading a file with the annotations in place. They should show up as unknown annotations __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 4-Nov-1998 21:53:49-GMT,2432;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA13501 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 14:53:48 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA17758; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 15:36:08 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 4 Nov 1998 15:33:12 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA17390; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 15:33:07 -0600 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Reader with Search Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 21:27:14 -0000 Message-ID: <000701be083a$5aed9e80$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19981104132422.00845950@pop.iglou.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== But surely (or, surely not since this isn't what seems to be happening) any quantity of PDF worth indexing is too large to distribute on floppy, and makes no sense on the web; so it's being distributed on CDROM. On that basis, why isn't Reader+Search on the CDROM? Aandi > >I'm puzzled as to why people download it at all though - > >it is available on the Acrobat Reader CDROM, and if a person > >is creating indexes they will surely have that. What am > >I missing? > > > >Aandi > > > > > > But suppose I want to distribute indexed PDFs to others? I'd want to > > a) Point them at a site where the right version of Reader could be > downloaded (preferably the latest, most fixed) and __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 4-Nov-1998 23:28:56-GMT,1781;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA15709 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 16:28:55 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA27287; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 17:28:47 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 4 Nov 1998 17:24:51 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA27009; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 17:24:50 -0600 From: james.watson@ss.ps.ge.com Message-ID: <6C9954901CECD1119B4800A0C9AAF68D769306@txhoux01psge.geips.ge.com> To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Converting PCL Files to PDF Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 18:24:21 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== I have a application that create reports in PCL3 format and send them directly to the printer bypassing the windows drivers. Does anyone have a suggestion for translating these files to PDF in batch Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, James __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 5-Nov-1998 0:16:46-GMT,2333;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA16801 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 17:16:44 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA29951; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 18:16:38 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 4 Nov 1998 18:13:00 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA29673; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 18:12:56 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19981104192309.0085dd80@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 19:23:09 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: RE: [PDF] Reader with Search In-Reply-To: <000701be083a$5aed9e80$0101c6c0@gateway> References: <3.0.5.32.19981104132422.00845950@pop.iglou.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > >But surely (or, surely not since this isn't what seems to be >happening) any quantity of PDF worth indexing is too large >to distribute on floppy, and makes no sense on the web; so >it's being distributed on CDROM. On that basis, why isn't >Reader+Search on the CDROM? > Assuming CDROM distribution, I agree. OTOH, I've considered distributing an index with a software manual I'm working on. Why not? It makes it that much easier to use (and means I don't have to labor over a printable index for people who'll likely never want to print the doc anyhow). IOW, there might be legit reasons, I think. Steve Rindsberg/Prez RDP http://www.rdpslides.com __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 5-Nov-1998 0:59:30-GMT,2482;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA17766 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 17:59:25 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA32224; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 18:59:03 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 4 Nov 1998 18:55:25 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA31987; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 18:55:24 -0600 From: "Pete Koolish" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Converting PCL Files to PDF Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 16:55:23 -0800 Message-ID: <000001be0856$f85e1e80$cac8c8c8@screamer.netgate.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <6C9954901CECD1119B4800A0C9AAF68D769306@txhoux01psge.geips.ge.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Sys-Print has an application that is able to convert PCL directly to PDF in batch mode. Pete > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com [mailto:owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com]On > Behalf Of james.watson@ss.ps.ge.com > Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 1998 3:24 PM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: [PDF] Converting PCL Files to PDF > > > > ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > > I have a application that create reports in PCL3 format and send them > directly to the printer bypassing the windows drivers. Does anyone have a > suggestion for translating these files to PDF in batch > > Any help would be appreciated. > > Thanks, > James > __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 5-Nov-1998 5:01:25-GMT,1773;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA22615 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 22:01:24 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA11943; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 23:00:58 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 4 Nov 1998 22:57:15 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA11692; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 22:57:11 -0600 Message-ID: <36413017.DA587514@pgc1.com> Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 22:56:55 -0600 From: Michael Conchola X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] PDF rotation Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Hello everyone. I have a question we converted a cad drawing to a PDF file. Now, we want to rotate it 180 degrees which is not a problem. Although, after we do this we cannot save the document. It says the document cannot be saved. please help mikec@pgc1.com __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 5-Nov-1998 5:22:18-GMT,2852;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA23057 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 22:22:17 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA13001; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 23:22:11 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 4 Nov 1998 23:18:50 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA12798; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 23:18:48 -0600 Message-ID: <8B9FA2B2846ED2119665009027157DAD1CF6@RAIDSERVER> From: Duff Johnson To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] PDF rotation Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 21:19:15 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Michael: --How big (inches) is it? Near, at or over 40 x 40 could be a snag. --How did you generate it? -- Try tweaking the settings and recreating the file. --If it's v. large file-size wise (doubtful, but possible), you may need a beefier machine... It's important to list details such as platform, software version(s), etc, methods used, etc. when asking such a question! regards, Duff Johnson President, Document Solutions, Inc. > -----Original Message----- > From: Michael Conchola [mailto:mikec@pgc1.com] > Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 1998 8:57 PM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: [PDF] PDF rotation > > > > ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > > Hello everyone. I have a question we converted a cad drawing to a PDF > file. > Now, we want to rotate it 180 degrees which is not a problem. > Although, after we do this we cannot save the document. It says the > document > cannot be saved. > > please help > > mikec@pgc1.com > > > __________________________________________________________ > > -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- > *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** > + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + > __________________________________________________________ > __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 5-Nov-1998 5:39:46-GMT,3133;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA23377 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 22:39:46 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA13945; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 23:39:40 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 4 Nov 1998 23:36:03 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA13714; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 23:36:02 -0600 Message-ID: <8B9FA2B2846ED2119665009027157DAD1CF8@RAIDSERVER> From: Duff Johnson To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Doculex Capture versus Adobe Capture Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 21:36:42 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > I have involved in a project to convert 50.000 documents per day to > electronic format. > > The electronic documents must to be published in the > Internet, so I have > decided to use Adobe PDF format. Which? PDF/Image + Hidden Text or PDF/Normal? If PDF/Normal, and if the pages are heavily formatted, you'll need Capture. > To do that, we have selected two tools: > > - Adobe Capture 2.0, or > > - Doculex Capture to scan the documents and perform the OCR and the > Doculex PDF-it module to convert the output of Doculex Capture to PDF. > > Which is better ? I haven't tried Doculex for this, but you should test them head to head and look for qualitative differences yourself... (especially since you are using (I'm guessing) lots of Spanish-language software. In addition to OCR accuracy, look for page display times, file sizes, etc. We have found Capture to deliver relatively smaller PDF/Image+Text files that display faster and "cleaner" than many competing methods. > People of Doculex say that their OCR is better than the OCR of Adobe > Acrobat, what do you think ? Everyone knocks Capture's OCR.... Actually, for font / line / page recognition AND rendering to PDF, it's about the best there is (no real surprise there). On pure text recognition, it's fairly lousy. Again - it's about whether you need PDF/I+T or PDF/Normal regards, Duff Johnson President, Document Solutions, Inc. 1611 Telegraph Avenue, Suite 1010 Oakland, CA 94612 510-986-0250 FAX: 510-986-0636 duffj@document-solutions.com www.document-solutions.com __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 5-Nov-1998 5:47:50-GMT,3964;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA23538 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 22:47:49 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA14390; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 23:47:45 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 4 Nov 1998 23:44:26 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA14160; Wed, 4 Nov 1998 23:44:25 -0600 Message-ID: <8B9FA2B2846ED2119665009027157DAD1CF9@RAIDSERVER> From: Duff Johnson To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Black Lines Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 21:44:42 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== If that really fixed the problem, you should enlighten us as to the nature (layout, type, config) of your network, so we can learn! In the past, DSI experienced Capture problems on TCP/IP-networked drives running NT 4.0 with Mac accessibility enabled.... There are all kinds of little issues - but yours was/is odd. I suggest you "try again" with the files on the network, then try another network drive (if available). Right now, it seems that you have negative (but not positve) evidence that the network is at fault. Duff Johnson President, Document Solutions, Inc. > -----Original Message----- > From: Rick Melanson [mailto:rmelanso@MICRION.COM] > Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 1998 1:10 PM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: [PDF] Black Lines > > > > ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > > I sent the below message to the list but I did not hear from > anyone except > Wolfgang Ziegler. BUT I got lucky and found the fix myself. I > was getting > the PDF files from a network drive. I would Capture the files over the > network. Now I copy the PDF file to my hard drive, then begin > the capture > process and Voila, no more black lines. I hope my sharing > this with everyone > helps someone else somewhere. Have a good day all. > > Rock Melanson > rmelanso@micrion.com > > >Good Morning Everyone, > > > >I am using the Capture plugin on some PDF files and the > problem I am seeing > >is this. When Capture is through processing the file, > whether it is 2 pages > >or 200, there are black lines that run from left to right on > all the pages > >of the captured file. These black lines are arbitrarily > placed on the pages > >and I cannot delete them, cut them, select them, nothing. I > have not been > >using the plugin for very long so if I am overlooking something very > simple, > >please take it easy on me. All I want to do is capture the > files without > >having these black lines added. Help please anyone. Have a good day > >everyone. > > > >Rick Melanson > >rmelanso@micrion.com > >Sr. Technical Writer > >Micrion Corp. > > > __________________________________________________________ > > -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- > *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** > + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + > __________________________________________________________ > __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 5-Nov-1998 16:30:44-GMT,3671;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA05998 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 09:30:43 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA15301; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:28:36 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:22:45 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA14779; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:22:44 -0600 Message-ID: <005801be08e0$81b87ac0$1e00a8c0@300> From: "quickdraw" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF rotation Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 09:19:54 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== In your CAD package you should be able to rotate the plot, then create the PDF file. Randy Chamzuk Quick-Draw Inc. -----Original Message----- From: Duff Johnson To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' Date: Wednesday, November 04, 1998 9:25 PM Subject: RE: [PDF] PDF rotation > >====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > >Michael: > >--How big (inches) is it? Near, at or over 40 x 40 could be a snag. >--How did you generate it? -- Try tweaking the settings and recreating the >file. >--If it's v. large file-size wise (doubtful, but possible), you may need a >beefier machine... > >It's important to list details such as platform, software version(s), etc, >methods used, etc. when asking such a question! > >regards, > >Duff Johnson >President, Document Solutions, Inc. > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Michael Conchola [mailto:mikec@pgc1.com] >> Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 1998 8:57 PM >> To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com >> Subject: [PDF] PDF rotation >> >> >> >> ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== >> >> Hello everyone. I have a question we converted a cad drawing to a PDF >> file. >> Now, we want to rotate it 180 degrees which is not a problem. >> Although, after we do this we cannot save the document. It says the >> document >> cannot be saved. >> >> please help >> >> mikec@pgc1.com >> >> >> __________________________________________________________ >> >> -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- >> *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** >> + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + >> __________________________________________________________ >> > >__________________________________________________________ > >-> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- >*** Sponsorship & Advt. 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Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 5-Nov-1998 17:35:38-GMT,2088;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA07720 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:35:37 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA21378; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 11:35:02 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 5 Nov 1998 11:30:55 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA20925; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 11:30:52 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.32.19981105111620.006b6d10@omnipress.com> X-Sender: uschan@omnipress.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 11:16:21 -0600 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Christopher Uschan Subject: [PDF] FRAMEMAKER Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Could someone please contact me about converting FRAMEMAKER to PDF. I have some files that need to go to PDF. We do not work in frame and are looking for options. Please contact me personally to uschan@omnipress.com, not to the PDF-L. Leave me a number and I will contact you. Thanks- Christopher Uschan ---------------------------------------------------- Technology Manager - OMNIPRESS ph: 608-246-2600 fax: 608-246-4237 check us out --> 0000,0000,ffffhttp://www.omnipress.com __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. 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Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01BE08E5.F9924BC0 Content-Type: text/plain Hi All, I have 10,000 tiff images in 100 different directories. At any time many different users might update one of those tiff files. When that happens i want to automatically detect that a file has been updated, convert it to a pdf file, then move it to another directory. Is this possible, or do i have to manually tell Acrobat to perform the conversion each time? Is there a third party product i could get that would do this? thanks! -david m rosner ------_=_NextPart_001_01BE08E5.F9924BC0 Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Auto convert TIFF files

Hi All,

I have 10,000 tiff images in = 100 different directories. At any time many different users might = update one of those tiff files. When that happens i want to = automatically detect that a file has been updated, convert it to a pdf = file, then move it to another directory.

Is this possible, or do i have = to manually tell Acrobat to perform the conversion each time? Is there = a third party product i could get that would do this?

thanks!

-david m rosner

------_=_NextPart_001_01BE08E5.F9924BC0-- __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 5-Nov-1998 18:34:36-GMT,2345;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA09242 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 11:34:35 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA26286; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 12:34:16 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 5 Nov 1998 12:30:33 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA26004; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 12:30:31 -0600 From: Troy.L.DeArmitt@mercbcp.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: MTL To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <862566B3.00640712.00@mbi.mercantile.com> Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 12:29:53 -0600 Subject: [PDF] distiller vs pdfwriter Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== I recently acquired the pdfwriter for word 97 and was doing some comparisons between using pdfwriter and distiller and am seeing huge reductions in viewing quaility (on primarily text) when creating the pdf's through the distiller utility. the pdf's text output on the pdfwriter side is quite crisp and clean. this disturbs me in that forfeiting the bonus options earned through using the distiller is unappealing. i was first accepting distiller's defaults, but have since played with some of the settings trying to resolve the degradation issue. obviously to no avail. a curious note is that printouts appear identical but this isn't my intended medium so that doesn't help much. i would appreciate the insights of any who may have crossed this path before. thanks in advance for any assistance you may be able to offer. tld __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 5-Nov-1998 19:05:23-GMT,2219;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA10055 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 12:05:22 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA29328; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 13:04:59 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 5 Nov 1998 13:01:25 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA28941; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 13:01:24 -0600 Message-ID: <01BE08EE.C15A1EA0@host3.visual.co.uk> From: "Neil J. Geddes" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Converting PCL Files to PDF Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 19:01:52 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== James, Visual Software has a LaserJet PCL to Acrobat PDF convertor - Pcl2pdf. There are versions available for DOS, Win32, Unix, DLL etc. Take a look at:- http://www.visual.co.uk/pcl2pdf.html Regards, Neil Visual Software geddes@visual.co.uk Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 18:24:21 -0500 From: james.watson@ss.ps.ge.com Subject: [PDF] Converting PCL Files to PDF ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== I have a application that create reports in PCL3 format and send them directly to the printer bypassing the windows drivers. Does anyone have a suggestion for translating these files to PDF in batch Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, James __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 5-Nov-1998 22:45:34-GMT,2308;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA15488 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 15:45:33 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA15047; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 16:44:57 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 5 Nov 1998 16:40:24 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA14735; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 16:40:22 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19981105171831.007c2470@up.bresnan.net> X-Sender: fosmire@up.bresnan.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 17:18:31 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: "M. Sean Fosmire" Subject: [PDF] Re: USEPDF Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== At Karen's request, I sent her a copy of USEPDF.PDF directly. Anyone can retrieve it by typing into the Go To box, or clicking on, the following link: http://www.courts.net/usepdf.pdf >Can you send me a copy of usepdf.pdf? karen_l_mibus@keybank.com > >I posted an Acrobat file discussing the recommendation for what I call >"large format PDF" (essentially, landscape orientation and 18 to 20-point >type). It is still up, although I recently removed the link to it on the >HTML pages. ====================================================== M. Sean Fosmire fosmire@up.bresnan.net Superior Information Services, Inc. Courts.net http://www.courts.net ====================================================== __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 5-Nov-1998 23:09:51-GMT,2924;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA16042 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 16:09:51 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA16844; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 17:09:38 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 5 Nov 1998 17:05:59 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA16612; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 17:05:58 -0600 Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 18:05:41 -0500 From: olaf druemmer Subject: Re: [PDF] Auto convert TIFF files To: PDF listserver Message-ID: <199811051805_MC2-5F42-33BC@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id RAA16608 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== David, >Hi All, > >I have 10,000 tiff images in 100 different directories. At any time many >different users might update one of those tiff files. When that happens i >want to automatically detect that a file has been updated, convert it to a >pdf file, then move it to another directory. > >Is this possible, or do i have to manually tell Acrobat to perform the >conversion each time? Is there a third party product i could get that would >do this? > >thanks! > >-david m rosner we do have a tool that gets close to what you want, and we may be in a position to make it do what you want relatively quickly. Contact me privately if you are interested. 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Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 6-Nov-1998 0:41:09-GMT,2046;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA17938 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 17:41:08 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA22487; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 18:40:49 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 5 Nov 1998 18:36:49 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA22197; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 18:36:47 -0600 Message-ID: <00EF773582D6D111939D00A0C9A92F64023F5C66@il0015exch003u.ih.lucent.com> From: "Farrell, Kevin (Kevin)" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Capture 2.01 question Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 06:49:49 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Can anyone explain what causes Capture 2.01 (Win 95) to produce a .ERR file in the output box where I'm expecting PDF? This happened to 3 of 15 pages I scanned, using 300dpi B/W. I'm using an HP ScanJet 3c /ADF scanner and placed the source hardcopy in the document feeder. All the pages came out fine w/the exception of the .ERR pages. _____________________________________ Kevin Farrell Lucent Technologies (EMNS) mailto:kfarrell@lucent.com *Voice (630) 224-6890 *Pager (630) 680-6367 __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 6-Nov-1998 1:45:35-GMT,2869;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA19272 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 18:45:34 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA26209; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 19:45:09 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 5 Nov 1998 19:41:03 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA25906; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 19:41:02 -0600 Message-ID: <6031CF804B89D111B9F00020AFD0D9A6025011@mail.paravision.com> From: Vincent Huang To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Auto convert TIFF files Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 17:59:24 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== David, Obviously Adobe Capture 2.0x can do the job except that you will use up half of the page count in the Dongle (20,000 pages limit). You have a choice to choose a number of options such as Image with text (hidden text), Normal (mostly text only), and image only. At a fraction of the cost, the "Workflow" control function of our software "PageGenie2000 Pro" gives you basically the same (and actually more) functions as the Adobe Capture 2.0x. If you convert tiff directly to PDF without OCR, etc. there is NO limit to the number of pages processed. Contact me privately if you are interested. Regards/Vincent Paravision Imaging, Inc. http://www.pagegenie.com ---------- From: Rosner, David [SMTP:David.Rosner@astra.us.astra.com] Sent: Thursday, November 05, 1998 10:00 AM To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' Subject: [PDF] Auto convert TIFF files Hi All, I have 10,000 tiff images in 100 different directories. At any time many different users might update one of those tiff files. When that happens i want to automatically detect that a file has been updated, convert it to a pdf file, then move it to another directory. Is this possible, or do i have to manually tell Acrobat to perform the conversion each time? Is there a third party product i could get that would do this? __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 6-Nov-1998 2:02:37-GMT,3416;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA19641 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 19:02:36 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA27246; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 20:02:29 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 5 Nov 1998 19:59:11 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA26987; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 19:59:10 -0600 Message-ID: <6031CF804B89D111B9F00020AFD0D9A6025012@mail.paravision.com> From: Vincent Huang To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com, Alvaro de la Hera Martinez Subject: RE: [PDF] Doculex Capture versus Adobe Capture Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 18:17:22 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== I have involved in a project to convert 50.000 documents per day to electronic format. I would like to elaborate on Duff's comments: 1. For PDF image only conversion, you certainly don't want to be penalized with the Dongle page count limitation (20,000 and $500 per 20,000 pages afterwards) of Adobe Capture 2.0x. 2. For hidden text (or Image + Text) and normal PDF mode, OCR accuracy is actually very important.... There are only a handful of OCR engines that's really at the top of the class. Xerox, OmniPage from Caere, Expervision OCR engine (which Visioneer's Pro OCR 100 and my software PageGenie 2000 Pro are based on). Any of these are far superior than Adobe's OCR engine in terms of speed and accuracy. The improvement in accuracy could be an order of magnitude. Our test of our own software with "workflow batch control" using Expervision OCR engine shows a result of approx. 200% speed improvement with highest accuracy setting. So at lower accuracy setting the speed will be even faster. I don't know what OCR engine DocuLex is using, but it's worthy of asking. I have not tested the Xerox for the purpose. Caere does NOT support PDF printout unless someone else has done the development that I am not ware of. If you would like to test drive our software, take it private. Regards/Vincent Paravision Imaging, Inc. http://www.pagegenie.com The electronic documents must to be published in the Internet, so I have decided to use Adobe PDF format. To do that, we have selected two tools: - Adobe Capture 2.0, or - Doculex Capture to scan the documents and perform the OCR and the Doculex PDF-it module to convert the output of Doculex Capture to PDF. Which is better ? People of Doculex say that their OCR is better than the OCR of Adobe Acrobat, what do you think ? __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 6-Nov-1998 4:24:36-GMT,1702;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA22513 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 21:24:35 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA02133; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 22:24:23 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 5 Nov 1998 22:19:56 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA01840; Thu, 5 Nov 1998 22:19:54 -0600 Message-ID: <3642790D.CFDB5D3F@interbanner.com> Date: Fri, 06 Nov 1998 05:20:35 +0100 From: Eduardo Vela =?iso-8859-1?Q?L=F3pez?= Organization: eduvela X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: English, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] webpresenter Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== How can i find and download Adobe WebPresenter? __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 6-Nov-1998 9:26:34-GMT,1996;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA28121 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 02:26:33 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA17050; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 03:25:11 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 6 Nov 1998 03:17:22 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA16594; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 03:17:20 -0600 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] webpresenter Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 08:57:17 -0000 Message-ID: <001101be0965$e890c060$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <3642790D.CFDB5D3F@interbanner.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== I think that is a long dead idea, that never made it beyond a prototype. Even if you found a copy, I believe it had a time limit. I believe Adobe worked some of the ideas into Persuasion - which they then dropped. Aandi > > How can i find and download Adobe WebPresenter? __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 6-Nov-1998 15:26:21-GMT,2045;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA04169 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 08:26:16 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA05208; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 09:25:27 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 6 Nov 1998 09:20:08 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA04752; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 09:20:04 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.32.19981106091831.006bb474@omnipress.com> X-Sender: uschan@omnipress.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Fri, 06 Nov 1998 09:18:32 -0600 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Christopher Uschan Subject: [PDF] FRAMEMAKER THANKS! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Folks (in response to a previous framemaker help request) - Tremendous response turnout to my request! I thank all of you for responding so timely. There were too many to send a personalized thanks to - so thank you all. Christopher Uschan ---------------------------------------------------- Technology Manager - OMNIPRESS ph: 608-246-2600 fax: 608-246-4237 check us out --> 0000,0000,ffffhttp://www.omnipress.com __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 6-Nov-1998 16:02:03-GMT,1784;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA04953 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 09:02:01 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA07798; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 10:01:47 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 6 Nov 1998 09:58:12 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA07481; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 09:58:08 -0600 X-Sender: h.goldsmith@138.250.12.2 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 15:56:36 +0000 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Hayley Goldsmith Subject: [PDF] Security issues Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Hi Does anyone know how to stop people from obtaining a clean pdf from a previously password protected pdf? Has anyone developed a plug-in for this major issue? Hayley Goldsmith European Case Clearing House h.goldsmith@ecch.cranfield.ac.uk http://www.ecch.cranfield.ac.uk __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 6-Nov-1998 16:50:28-GMT,2284;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA06092 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 09:50:26 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA11463; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 10:50:01 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 6 Nov 1998 10:45:24 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA11095; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 10:45:22 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.3.16.19981107030946.0a573a26@pop.cbn.net.id> X-Sender: cell@pop.cbn.net.id X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (16) Date: Sat, 07 Nov 1998 03:09:46 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: "Marcello S." Subject: [PDF] PDF always print 2% smaller? In-Reply-To: <199811020200.SAA27043@sun630mp.infomania.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Hi, I am trying to use PDF as a container to send my files to Indigo 1000+ and a HP 350C. But it always prints at about 98% of its original size. (about 2% smaller) Is this a known bug ? Or maybe i have missed something? The files are being printed from PD 8.3.1 driver to file then distilled either to the local machine (a PowerPC 7300/200) or to a network PDF In Folder. I also try to use prologue and epilogue to distill. but no use. it always prints at about 98% and I need it to print out accurately. Can someone help me? Thank you Regard, Marcello S. cell@cbn.net.id ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 6-Nov-1998 17:03:30-GMT,2288;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA06356 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 10:03:29 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA12655; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 11:03:15 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 6 Nov 1998 10:59:29 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA12342; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 10:59:28 -0600 Message-Id: <199811061659.KAA12332@everglades.binc.net> Subject: Re: [PDF] Security issues Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 11:59:24 -0500 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: Mark Gavin To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== [Hayley Goldsmith wrote on 11/6/98 10:56 AM] >Does anyone know how to stop people from obtaining a clean pdf from a >previously password protected pdf? > >Has anyone developed a plug-in for this major issue? > >Hayley Goldsmith Hayley, Take a look at PageVault from Authentica Security Technology. Each individual page of the PDF file is encrypted with a separate key using 128 bit RC4. The keys are stored on a secure server and communications between the client and server is double encrypted; 128 bit RC4 on top of SSL. Their address is http://www.authentica-security.com. Mark Gavin Vice President, Software Development Digital Applications, Inc. 215 East Providence Road Aldan, PA, USA 19018-4129 (610) 284-4006 mgavin@DigApp.com http://www.DigApp.com __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 6-Nov-1998 18:40:09-GMT,2559;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA08945 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 11:40:08 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA20466; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 12:37:28 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 6 Nov 1998 12:31:01 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA19912; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 12:31:00 -0600 X-Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated X-Division: Core Technology X-Department: Product Interoperability Analysis X-URL: Message-Id: <4.1.19981106102842.00977cd0@mail-303> X-Sender: isaacs@mail-303 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Fri, 06 Nov 1998 10:30:44 -0800 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Dov Isaacs Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF always print 2% smaller? In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.16.19981107030946.0a573a26@pop.cbn.net.id> References: <199811020200.SAA27043@sun630mp.infomania.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== At 11/6/98 07:09 PM , you wrote: >Hi, >I am trying to use PDF as a container to send my files to Indigo 1000+ and >a HP 350C. >But it always prints at about 98% of its original size. (about 2% smaller) >Is this a known bug ? Or maybe i have missed something? > >The files are being printed from PD 8.3.1 driver to file then distilled >either to the local machine (a PowerPC 7300/200) or to a network PDF In >Folder. >I also try to use prologue and epilogue to distill. but no use. >it always prints at about 98% and I need it to print out accurately. > >Can someone help me? Are you checking the "shrink to fit" option in the print dialogue box? If so, that could account for the problem ... uncheck it and try again. - Dov __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 6-Nov-1998 18:40:20-GMT,1651;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA08955 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 11:40:18 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA20455; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 12:37:20 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 6 Nov 1998 12:30:25 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA19880; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 12:30:23 -0600 Message-ID: <19981106183021.25705.qmail@www08.netaddress.usa.net> Date: 6 Nov 98 10:30:21 PST From: Lourdes Armas To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] This is only a Test -- No Message Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== ____________________________________________________________________ Get free e-mail and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 6-Nov-1998 18:54:39-GMT,2559;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA09360 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 11:54:38 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA22070; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 12:54:17 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 6 Nov 1998 12:50:50 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA21704; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 12:50:48 -0600 From: "David Cornwell" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Security issues Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 18:55:13 -0000 Message-ID: <001701be09b6$fc831720$3e3ea8c0@davec.docctrl.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2120.0 In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > Does anyone know how to stop people from obtaining a clean pdf from a > previously password protected pdf? > > Has anyone developed a plug-in for this major issue? Our PDFcontol toolset could provide this capability. The end user would require Exchange and a plug-in. They would be able to view the document and when printed it would come out blank or even with a message saying something. Its not really designed for this but would work. Contact me off line or check out www.docctrl.com if you are interested. drc --- David Cornwell, Director - Business Development Computerised Document Control Ltd PO Box 5, Chepstow, Monmouthshire, NP6 6YU, United Kingdom Tel: + 44 (0) 1291 635 403 (direct) ; USA: 1-888-240-1752 Fax: + 44 (0) 1291 623 902 www.docctrl.com Forging the link between Document Systems and Acrobat __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 6-Nov-1998 18:54:35-GMT,4388;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA09353 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 11:54:33 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA22061; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 12:54:12 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 6 Nov 1998 12:50:52 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA21725; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 12:50:50 -0600 From: "David Cornwell" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] distiller vs PDFwriter Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 18:55:04 -0000 Message-ID: <001601be09b6$f6e2a920$3e3ea8c0@davec.docctrl.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2120.0 In-Reply-To: <862566B3.00640712.00@mbi.mercantile.com> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > I recently acquired the pdfwriter for word 97 and was doing some > comparisons between using pdfwriter and distiller and am seeing huge > reductions in viewing quaility (on primarily text) when creating the pdf's > through the distiller utility. the pdf's text output on the > pdfwriter side > is quite crisp and clean. i would appreciate the insights of any who may >have crossed this path before. Troy I notice you appear not to have had an answer from anyone who really understands these things and thought that my simple understanding may be of some benefit - anything is better than nothing! I understand this to be a fonts thing. Its to do with the fact that PDFwriter handles True Type fonts in a different way from Distiller. The way around it is to use Adobe fonts (what a surprise!) in your document. Regards drc --- David Cornwell, Director - Business Development Computerised Document Control Ltd PO Box 5, Chepstow, Monmouthshire, NP6 6YU, United Kingdom Tel: + 44 (0) 1291 635 403 (direct) ; USA: 1-888-240-1752 Fax: + 44 (0) 1291 623 902 www.docctrl.com Forging the link between Document Systems and Acrobat > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com [mailto:owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com]On > Behalf Of Troy.L.DeArmitt@mercbcp.com > Sent: 05 November 1998 18:30 > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: [PDF] distiller vs pdfwriter > > > > ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > > I recently acquired the pdfwriter for word 97 and was doing some > comparisons between using pdfwriter and distiller and am seeing huge > reductions in viewing quaility (on primarily text) when creating the pdf's > through the distiller utility. the pdf's text output on the > pdfwriter side > is quite crisp and clean. this disturbs me in that forfeiting the bonus > options earned through using the distiller is unappealing. > > i was first accepting distiller's defaults, but have since played > with some > of the settings trying to resolve the degradation issue. obviously to no > avail. > > a curious note is that printouts appear identical but this isn't my > intended medium so that doesn't help much. > > i would appreciate the insights of any who may have crossed this path > before. > > thanks in advance for any assistance you may be able to offer. > > tld > > > > __________________________________________________________ > > -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- > *** Sponsorship & Advt. 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Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 6-Nov-1998 19:11:16-GMT,2028;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA09744 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 12:11:14 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA23459; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 13:10:47 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 6 Nov 1998 13:06:39 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA23059; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 13:06:37 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.3.16.19981107053108.4effbf56@pop.cbn.net.id> X-Sender: cell@pop.cbn.net.id X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (16) Date: Sat, 07 Nov 1998 05:31:08 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: "Marcello S." Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF always print 2% smaller? In-Reply-To: <4.1.19981106102842.00977cd0@mail-303> References: <3.0.3.16.19981107030946.0a573a26@pop.cbn.net.id> <199811020200.SAA27043@sun630mp.infomania.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Hi, No. no shrink to fit. I need the files in a hundred percent. >Are you checking the "shrink to fit" option in the print dialogue box? >If so, that could account for the problem ... uncheck it and try again. > > - Dov ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 6-Nov-1998 19:24:58-GMT,5492;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA10047 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 12:24:57 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA24525; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 13:23:43 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 6 Nov 1998 13:20:23 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA24275; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 13:20:22 -0600 Message-ID: <8B9FA2B2846ED2119665009027157DAD1D1B@RAIDSERVER> From: Duff Johnson To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] distiller vs PDFwriter Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 11:20:18 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== As we've noted before on this list, David is the president, CEO, secretary and principal member of the PDFWriter Fan Club. :) Certainly, using Adobe PS fonts is ALWAYS preferred.... it is not, however, actually necessary. Troy, the most likely reason for poor-quality text in a Distilled PDF is incorrect Distiller settings and/or missing fonts on the Distilling system. One Quick & Dirty option is to "embed all fonts" in Distiller -- while (of course) ensuring that Distiller actually has the fonts available to it. One way to make semi-sure of this is to do the Distilling on the PS authoring system. The Distiller documentation addresses these issues quite well. Duff Johnson President, Document Solutions, Inc. > ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > > > I recently acquired the pdfwriter for word 97 and was doing some > > comparisons between using pdfwriter and distiller and am seeing huge > > reductions in viewing quaility (on primarily text) when > creating the pdf's > > through the distiller utility. the pdf's text output on the > > pdfwriter side > > is quite crisp and clean. i would appreciate the insights > of any who may > >have crossed this path before. > > Troy > > I notice you appear not to have had an answer from anyone who really > understands these things and thought that my simple > understanding may be of > some benefit - anything is better than nothing! > > I understand this to be a fonts thing. Its to do with the fact that > PDFwriter handles True Type fonts in a different way from > Distiller. The way > around it is to use Adobe fonts (what a surprise!) in your document. > > Regards > > drc > --- > David Cornwell, Director - Business Development > Computerised Document Control Ltd > PO Box 5, Chepstow, Monmouthshire, NP6 6YU, United Kingdom > Tel: + 44 (0) 1291 635 403 (direct) ; USA: 1-888-240-1752 > Fax: + 44 (0) 1291 623 902 > www.docctrl.com > Forging the link between Document Systems and Acrobat > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > [mailto:owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com]On > > Behalf Of Troy.L.DeArmitt@mercbcp.com > > Sent: 05 November 1998 18:30 > > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > > Subject: [PDF] distiller vs pdfwriter > > > > > > > > ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > > > > I recently acquired the pdfwriter for word 97 and was doing some > > comparisons between using pdfwriter and distiller and am seeing huge > > reductions in viewing quaility (on primarily text) when > creating the pdf's > > through the distiller utility. the pdf's text output on the > > pdfwriter side > > is quite crisp and clean. this disturbs me in that > forfeiting the bonus > > options earned through using the distiller is unappealing. > > > > i was first accepting distiller's defaults, but have since played > > with some > > of the settings trying to resolve the degradation issue. > obviously to no > > avail. > > > > a curious note is that printouts appear identical but this isn't my > > intended medium so that doesn't help much. > > > > i would appreciate the insights of any who may have crossed > this path > > before. > > > > thanks in advance for any assistance you may be able to offer. > > > > tld > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________ > > > > -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- > > *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** > > + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + > > __________________________________________________________ > > > > > __________________________________________________________ > > -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- > *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** > + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + > __________________________________________________________ > __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 6-Nov-1998 21:35:04-GMT,1875;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA13200 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 14:35:02 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA02483; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 15:34:20 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 6 Nov 1998 15:28:56 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA02031; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 15:28:55 -0600 Date: 6 Nov 98 13:28:49 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF always print 2% smaller? From: "Frank Midgley" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Mailer: Cyberdog/2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: X-Fontfamily: Geneva X-Fontsize: 12 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== You might also check that you haven't turned on "Precision Bitmap Alignment" in page setup. This option maps every onscreen pixel (at 72 dpi) to a 4x4 pixel on the page (at 300 dpi). This gives one a 4% reduction in page size ((300-72*4)/300), but no funky aliasing of pixels in low-res bitmaps. -Frank __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 6-Nov-1998 22:00:27-GMT,5348;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA13741 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 15:00:26 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA04420; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 16:00:19 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 6 Nov 1998 15:55:59 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA04011; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 15:55:57 -0600 From: "Stan Glenn" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] distiller vs PDFwriter Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 13:56:51 -0800 Message-ID: <000a01be09d0$5c462120$8e5c96d1@sglenn.cbspayroll.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 In-Reply-To: <001601be09b6$f6e2a920$3e3ea8c0@davec.docctrl.com> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Question...I keep seeing references to pdfwriter for Word 97...where do I acquire it? Or does it come with Acrobat?? Thanks. Stan Glenn sglenn@cbspayroll.com > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com [mailto:owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com]On > Behalf Of David Cornwell > Sent: Friday, November 06, 1998 10:55 AM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: RE: [PDF] distiller vs PDFwriter > > > > ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > > > I recently acquired the pdfwriter for word 97 and was doing some > > comparisons between using pdfwriter and distiller and am seeing huge > > reductions in viewing quaility (on primarily text) when > creating the pdf's > > through the distiller utility. the pdf's text output on the > > pdfwriter side > > is quite crisp and clean. i would appreciate the insights of > any who may > >have crossed this path before. > > Troy > > I notice you appear not to have had an answer from anyone who really > understands these things and thought that my simple understanding > may be of > some benefit - anything is better than nothing! > > I understand this to be a fonts thing. Its to do with the fact that > PDFwriter handles True Type fonts in a different way from > Distiller. The way > around it is to use Adobe fonts (what a surprise!) in your document. > > Regards > > drc > --- > David Cornwell, Director - Business Development > Computerised Document Control Ltd > PO Box 5, Chepstow, Monmouthshire, NP6 6YU, United Kingdom > Tel: + 44 (0) 1291 635 403 (direct) ; USA: 1-888-240-1752 > Fax: + 44 (0) 1291 623 902 > www.docctrl.com > Forging the link between Document Systems and Acrobat > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com [mailto:owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com]On > > Behalf Of Troy.L.DeArmitt@mercbcp.com > > Sent: 05 November 1998 18:30 > > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > > Subject: [PDF] distiller vs pdfwriter > > > > > > > > ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > > > > I recently acquired the pdfwriter for word 97 and was doing some > > comparisons between using pdfwriter and distiller and am seeing huge > > reductions in viewing quaility (on primarily text) when > creating the pdf's > > through the distiller utility. the pdf's text output on the > > pdfwriter side > > is quite crisp and clean. this disturbs me in that forfeiting the bonus > > options earned through using the distiller is unappealing. > > > > i was first accepting distiller's defaults, but have since played > > with some > > of the settings trying to resolve the degradation issue. > obviously to no > > avail. > > > > a curious note is that printouts appear identical but this isn't my > > intended medium so that doesn't help much. > > > > i would appreciate the insights of any who may have crossed this path > > before. > > > > thanks in advance for any assistance you may be able to offer. > > > > tld > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________ > > > > -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- > > *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** > > + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + > > __________________________________________________________ > > > > > __________________________________________________________ > > -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- > *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** > + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + > __________________________________________________________ > __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 6-Nov-1998 22:19:18-GMT,2032;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA14178 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 15:19:17 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA05895; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 16:19:05 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 6 Nov 1998 16:15:31 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA05490; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 16:15:29 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19981106172547.00847100@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Fri, 06 Nov 1998 17:25:47 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: RE: [PDF] distiller vs PDFwriter In-Reply-To: <000a01be09d0$5c462120$8e5c96d1@sglenn.cbspayroll.com> References: <001601be09b6$f6e2a920$3e3ea8c0@davec.docctrl.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > >Question...I keep seeing references to pdfwriter for Word 97...where do I >acquire it? Or does it come with Acrobat?? There's PDFWriter, the printer driver that makes PDFs, which is part of Acrobat then there's PDFMaker, an add-in for Word97. That's available at www.adobe.com Steve Rindsberg/Prez RDP http://www.rdpslides.com __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 6-Nov-1998 22:19:55-GMT,6143;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA14188 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 15:19:54 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA05996; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 16:19:49 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 6 Nov 1998 16:16:32 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA05572; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 16:16:30 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: kfoss@mailbag.com Message-Id: Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 16:14:53 -0600 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Kurt Foss Subject: [PDF] *FYI*> PDF Showcase for week of Nov. 2-6 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== _________________________________________ Weekly Table of Contents for the daily "PDF Showcase" feature from PDFzone.COM __________________________________________ PDF Showcase spotlights uses and users of the portable document format & Adobe Acrobat software, such as this week's selections: * Monday, Nov. 2 -- "Atlas of U.S. Presidential Elections" --------------------- http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/showcase/pres-elections.html U.S. voters didn't get to vote for president this week (even though the current commander's job has been rumored to be up for grabs). 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Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 6-Nov-1998 22:21:36-GMT,6170;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA14217 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 15:21:35 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA06144; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 16:21:24 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 6 Nov 1998 16:18:05 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA05736; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 16:18:00 -0600 Message-ID: From: "Epps, Fred W" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] distiller vs PDFwriter Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 14:17:52 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2407.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== This could be Adobe PDFMaker 1.0 for Microsoft Word 97 (Final). It can be found at http://www.adobe.com/supportservice/custsupport/LIBRARY/acwin.htm Fred.W.Epps@Boeing.com > ---------- > From: Stan Glenn[SMTP:sglenn@cbspayroll.com] > Reply To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Sent: Friday, 06 November, 1998 01:56 PM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: RE: [PDF] distiller vs PDFwriter > > > ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > > Question...I keep seeing references to pdfwriter for Word 97...where do I > acquire it? Or does it come with Acrobat?? > Thanks. > Stan Glenn > sglenn@cbspayroll.com > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com [mailto:owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com]On > > Behalf Of David Cornwell > > Sent: Friday, November 06, 1998 10:55 AM > > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > > Subject: RE: [PDF] distiller vs PDFwriter > > > > > > > > ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > > > > > I recently acquired the pdfwriter for word 97 and was doing some > > > comparisons between using pdfwriter and distiller and am seeing huge > > > reductions in viewing quaility (on primarily text) when > > creating the pdf's > > > through the distiller utility. the pdf's text output on the > > > pdfwriter side > > > is quite crisp and clean. i would appreciate the insights of > > any who may > > >have crossed this path before. > > > > Troy > > > > I notice you appear not to have had an answer from anyone who really > > understands these things and thought that my simple understanding > > may be of > > some benefit - anything is better than nothing! > > > > I understand this to be a fonts thing. Its to do with the fact that > > PDFwriter handles True Type fonts in a different way from > > Distiller. The way > > around it is to use Adobe fonts (what a surprise!) in your document. > > > > Regards > > > > drc > > --- > > David Cornwell, Director - Business Development > > Computerised Document Control Ltd > > PO Box 5, Chepstow, Monmouthshire, NP6 6YU, United Kingdom > > Tel: + 44 (0) 1291 635 403 (direct) ; USA: 1-888-240-1752 > > Fax: + 44 (0) 1291 623 902 > > www.docctrl.com > > Forging the link between Document Systems and Acrobat > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > [mailto:owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com]On > > > Behalf Of Troy.L.DeArmitt@mercbcp.com > > > Sent: 05 November 1998 18:30 > > > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > > > Subject: [PDF] distiller vs pdfwriter > > > > > > > > > > > > ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > > > > > > I recently acquired the pdfwriter for word 97 and was doing some > > > comparisons between using pdfwriter and distiller and am seeing huge > > > reductions in viewing quaility (on primarily text) when > > creating the pdf's > > > through the distiller utility. the pdf's text output on the > > > pdfwriter side > > > is quite crisp and clean. this disturbs me in that forfeiting the > bonus > > > options earned through using the distiller is unappealing. > > > > > > i was first accepting distiller's defaults, but have since played > > > with some > > > of the settings trying to resolve the degradation issue. > > obviously to no > > > avail. > > > > > > a curious note is that printouts appear identical but this isn't my > > > intended medium so that doesn't help much. > > > > > > i would appreciate the insights of any who may have crossed this path > > > before. > > > > > > thanks in advance for any assistance you may be able to offer. > > > > > > tld > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________ > > > > > > -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- > > > *** Sponsorship & Advt. 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Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 6-Nov-1998 23:02:41-GMT,5960;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA15197 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 16:02:40 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA09171; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 17:02:35 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 6 Nov 1998 16:58:41 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA08849; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 16:58:39 -0600 From: Troy.L.DeArmitt@mercbcp.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: MTL To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <862566B4.007DF345.00@mbi.mercantile.com> Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 16:58:06 -0600 Subject: RE: [PDF] distiller vs PDFwriter Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== as the originator of the distiller vs PDFwriter q and a, the reference does, as correctly pointed out be the others, stem from the office 97 PDFwriter utility which can be found at adobe.com. this tool beefs up your capabilities within word considerably.... tld "Stan Glenn" on 11/06/98 03:56:51 PM Please respond to pdf@lists.pdfzone.com To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com cc: (bcc: Troy L DeArmitt/STL/MTL) Subject: RE: [PDF] distiller vs PDFwriter ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Question...I keep seeing references to pdfwriter for Word 97...where do I acquire it? Or does it come with Acrobat?? Thanks. Stan Glenn sglenn@cbspayroll.com > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com [mailto:owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com]On > Behalf Of David Cornwell > Sent: Friday, November 06, 1998 10:55 AM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: RE: [PDF] distiller vs PDFwriter > > > > ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > > > I recently acquired the pdfwriter for word 97 and was doing some > > comparisons between using pdfwriter and distiller and am seeing huge > > reductions in viewing quaility (on primarily text) when > creating the pdf's > > through the distiller utility. the pdf's text output on the > > pdfwriter side > > is quite crisp and clean. i would appreciate the insights of > any who may > >have crossed this path before. > > Troy > > I notice you appear not to have had an answer from anyone who really > understands these things and thought that my simple understanding > may be of > some benefit - anything is better than nothing! > > I understand this to be a fonts thing. Its to do with the fact that > PDFwriter handles True Type fonts in a different way from > Distiller. The way > around it is to use Adobe fonts (what a surprise!) in your document. > > Regards > > drc > --- > David Cornwell, Director - Business Development > Computerised Document Control Ltd > PO Box 5, Chepstow, Monmouthshire, NP6 6YU, United Kingdom > Tel: + 44 (0) 1291 635 403 (direct) ; USA: 1-888-240-1752 > Fax: + 44 (0) 1291 623 902 > www.docctrl.com > Forging the link between Document Systems and Acrobat > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com [mailto:owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com]On > > Behalf Of Troy.L.DeArmitt@mercbcp.com > > Sent: 05 November 1998 18:30 > > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > > Subject: [PDF] distiller vs pdfwriter > > > > > > > > ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > > > > I recently acquired the pdfwriter for word 97 and was doing some > > comparisons between using pdfwriter and distiller and am seeing huge > > reductions in viewing quaility (on primarily text) when > creating the pdf's > > through the distiller utility. the pdf's text output on the > > pdfwriter side > > is quite crisp and clean. this disturbs me in that forfeiting the bonus > > options earned through using the distiller is unappealing. > > > > i was first accepting distiller's defaults, but have since played > > with some > > of the settings trying to resolve the degradation issue. > obviously to no > > avail. > > > > a curious note is that printouts appear identical but this isn't my > > intended medium so that doesn't help much. > > > > i would appreciate the insights of any who may have crossed this path > > before. > > > > thanks in advance for any assistance you may be able to offer. > > > > tld > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________ > > > > -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- > > *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** > > + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + > > __________________________________________________________ > > > > > __________________________________________________________ > > -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- > *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** > + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + > __________________________________________________________ > __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 7-Nov-1998 1:50:06-GMT,2297;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA18613 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 18:50:05 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA17505; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 19:49:50 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 6 Nov 1998 19:45:16 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA17247; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 19:45:14 -0600 Message-ID: <90001230CD9ED111B47F00608CF26D1E1294F2@ARTHUR> From: Karl De Abrew To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: FW: [PDF] PDF to HTML, predictable answers Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1998 12:45:46 +1100 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1459.44) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Chris, I might add to Max's discussion. I did an extensive investigation across a large number of PDF files and HTML files (including images). To simply summarise, I found that where the HTML and images filesize (sum of) was less than 10-15K that these were smaller than the PDF (using default compression settings). Where the HTML and images combined were greater than this, the PDF was almost always smaller. Don't forget that HTML text is not compressed at all, so for lengthy documents the differences can be quite substantial. Apologies - if this is posted twice. I believe that my emails are getting lost somewhere out there -- regards, Karl De Abrew karl@roundtable.com.au Round Table Solutions http://www.roundtable.com.au/ __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 7-Nov-1998 2:23:29-GMT,1828;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA19178 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 19:23:28 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA19217; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 20:23:21 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 6 Nov 1998 20:19:49 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA18991; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 20:19:47 -0600 Message-ID: <90001230CD9ED111B47F00608CF26D1E1294F8@ARTHUR> From: Karl De Abrew To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] email button for Acrobat reader ? Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1998 13:20:22 +1100 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1459.44) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Chris, RTS Joust is coming out for the reader very shortly - just in testing at present. Please contact me off-list for a demonstration version. regards, Karl De Abrew karl@roundtable.com.au Round Table Solutions - Are you an Acrobuddy? http://www.roundtable.com.au/ __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 7-Nov-1998 2:28:26-GMT,6831;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA19244 for ; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 19:28:25 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA19532; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 20:28:21 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 6 Nov 1998 20:25:07 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA19297; Fri, 6 Nov 1998 20:25:04 -0600 Message-ID: <90001230CD9ED111B47F00608CF26D1E1294F9@ARTHUR> From: Karl De Abrew To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Autorun Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1998 13:25:37 +1100 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1459.44) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Hello all, I have just confirmed that all messages I have sent to this list in the last two months have been sent straight to the electronic bin by my mailing system. If you are reading this, then I have fixed it now, if you are not reading this then I am in trouble :). There were two particular replies that I thought would be useful to people in general so I have summarised them again here. I hope these aren't too off-topic now ... Remember back a few weeks ago when Dean Laffan asked about "autorun.ini", well I thought that idea sounded quite good, so I drummed up the code for it. Here's a snippet from what was circular-filed by my mailer ... If you were wanting to ensure that this program was only ever run once, then you could write an entry in the user's registry or to an ini file which flagged the application as already been displayed once. To do this you would need to create a small application which does the following; 1. Fires up Reader and the PDF you desire to display. 2. Writes an entry to the registry/ini file noting that the PDF has been displayed. The autorun.ini would be as Margaret noted ... [autorun] open=DisplayPDF.exe At this stage, I got a little bored, so I drummed up the code myself. CD Autorun ---- Here is the actual C++ code required to perform what I outlined ... This needs to be placed in the InitInstance of an MFC minimal application in Visual C++ 5/6 I will be placing this in our code cuts section on the RTS website, http://www.roundtable.com.au/ For those of you who do not have access to Visual C++, please contact me and I will email you the executable privately. /////////////// Instructions for use : /////////////// Place the file DisplayPDF.exe in the root directory of your CD Create an autorun.ini file which points to the executable DisplayPDF.exe Create a displaypdf.ini file which contains ONLY the full path and name of the PDF to display This PDF will only be displayed once for each user on a machine. /////////////// /////////////// BOOL CDisplayPDFApp::InitInstance() { // Set the key location of the registry settings SetRegistryKey(_T("Round Table Solutions")); // Get the directory this application was started in CString strApplicationDirectory; LPTSTR pszApplicationDirectory = strApplicationDirectory.GetBufferSetLength(_MAX_PATH+1); GetModuleFileName(NULL, pszApplicationDirectory, _MAX_PATH+1); strApplicationDirectory.ReleaseBuffer(); strApplicationDirectory = strApplicationDirectory.Left(strApplicationDirectory.ReverseFind('\\')); // Open the DisplayPDF ini file from the same location CFile File; CString strPDFToDisplay; if(File.Open(strApplicationDirectory + "\\DisplayPDF.ini", CFile::modeRead|CFile::shareDenyNone)) { // Get the length of the file int iFileLength = File.GetLength(); // Read it into a CString File.Read(strPDFToDisplay.GetBufferSetLength(iFileLength),iFileLength); File.Close(); strPDFToDisplay.ReleaseBuffer(); // Check to see that this file has not been displayed before BOOL bDisplayedPreviously = GetProfileInt(_T("FilesDisplayed"),strPDFToDisplay, FALSE); if(!bDisplayedPreviously) { // Open the desired file if(((int)ShellExecute(NULL,"open",strPDFToDisplay,NULL,NULL,0))>32) { // Write the current time to the registry WriteProfileInt(_T("FilesDisplayed"),strPDFToDisplay,TRUE); } else { TRACE("Error executing ShellExec\n"); } } } else { TRACE("Could not find DisplayPDF.ini\n"); } // Return FALSE so that we exit the // application, rather than start the application's message pump. return FALSE; } And finally I had a few words to say about Stan Glenn's downloading and printing ... Well, depending on what browser your clients are using you could do the following ... Oh, but first up, I don't think anyone will be awarding me an elegance award for this solution, but anyway here goes. If your clients are using Internet Explorer then you could write a lightweight ActiveX control to accomodate this. The ActiveX control would have the following methods (*roughly*) which would be called from javascript on your HTML page. 1. AddFileToDownloadList 2. DownloadListofFiles 3. PrintFiles The first method would add the filename to an internal list of files to be downloaded. The second would use http:// (possible in VB5/6 or VC++ 5/6) to download each of the files to the temp folder on the user's machine. Finally, the last method would use the command line option to print the downloaded files(repeated here for your convenience), AcroRd32.exe /t path printername drivername portname - Initiates Acrobat Reader, prints a file while suppressing the Acrobat print dialog, then terminates Reader. The four parameters of the /t option evaluate to path, printername, drivername, and portname (all strings). - Printername is the name of your printer. - Drivename is your printer driver's name. - Portname is the printer's port. If your clients are using netscape (or another browser) then you would have to consider another solution. That's all folks - sorry for the deja vu regards, Karl De Abrew karl@roundtable.com.au Round Table Solutions - SendMail with Acrobat Reader, download RTSJoust! http://www.roundtable.com.au __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 7-Nov-1998 10:48:45-GMT,2007;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA27609 for ; Sat, 7 Nov 1998 03:48:44 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA07935; Sat, 7 Nov 1998 04:48:17 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 7 Nov 1998 04:43:39 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA07698; Sat, 7 Nov 1998 04:43:37 -0600 From: "Alberto Alberini" To: Subject: [PDF] Problems with exchange Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1998 11:44:44 +0100 Message-ID: <000001be0a3b$a2046da0$ab566ac0@alberto.graphos.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2232.26 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== I'm running exchange on Windows NT workstation. When I modify a page of a pdf file with exchange, I'm not able to seve the work as I get "Not enought spece on temp disk" But I have 3GB of free space. Any help? (I'm logged as Administrator) TIA __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 7-Nov-1998 18:42:11-GMT,2165;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA05225 for ; Sat, 7 Nov 1998 11:42:10 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA31087; Sat, 7 Nov 1998 12:41:29 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 7 Nov 1998 12:34:54 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA30549; Sat, 7 Nov 1998 12:34:53 -0600 Message-ID: <3644A0F8.589A0917@pobox.com> Date: Sat, 07 Nov 1998 14:35:21 -0500 From: Ramon Mellado Villarreal X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Combine PDF files References: <001601be09b6$f6e2a920$3e3ea8c0@davec.docctrl.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== We are processing a bunch of TIF files to PDF using Capture. To keep the processing smooth we process every page of a document separately and then use Compose (or Exchange itself) to merge the individual PDFs. This works OK, but there is a catch... It is taking us a VERY long time to combine documents with more than, say, 50 pages. We have tried documents with 300 or even 1000, but it is impractical if not impossible. Are we doing something wrong? Why does it take so long? Is there a faster way? Has anyone better software for this use? Thanks in advance. __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 7-Nov-1998 18:42:13-GMT,2177;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA05229 for ; Sat, 7 Nov 1998 11:42:12 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA31088; Sat, 7 Nov 1998 12:41:29 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 7 Nov 1998 12:32:31 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA30408; Sat, 7 Nov 1998 12:32:30 -0600 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Problems with exchange Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1998 12:53:27 -0000 Message-ID: <000401be0a7c$a2128de0$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <000001be0a3b$a2046da0$ab566ac0@alberto.graphos.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > I'm running exchange on Windows NT workstation. > When I modify a page of a pdf file with exchange, I'm not > able to seve the > work as I get > "Not enought spece on temp disk" > But I have 3GB of free space. That's too much space. Exchange 3.0, like many other applications, was written when 2 GB was the largest possible partition. The good news is, I understand that Exchange 3.01 fixes this. Can anyone confirm? Aandi __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 7-Nov-1998 20:11:28-GMT,3037;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA06734 for ; Sat, 7 Nov 1998 13:11:27 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA03466; Sat, 7 Nov 1998 14:11:00 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 7 Nov 1998 14:05:39 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA02984; Sat, 7 Nov 1998 14:05:35 -0600 Message-ID: <8B9FA2B2846ED2119665009027157DAD1D31@RAIDSERVER> From: Duff Johnson To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Combine PDF files Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1998 12:06:05 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > > We are processing a bunch of TIF files to PDF using Capture. > To keep the > processing smooth we process every page of a document > separately and then use > Compose (or Exchange itself) to merge the individual PDFs. > This works OK, but > there is a catch... > > It is taking us a VERY long time to combine documents with > more than, say, 50 > pages. We have tried documents with 300 or even 1000, but it > is impractical if > not impossible. > > Are we doing something wrong? Why does it take so long? Is > there a faster > way? Has anyone better software for this use? First, I would say you should DEFINITELY figure your way around Capturing page-at-a-time. There are some situations that call for this method - (i.e., different treatments for pages within a document), but that doesn't sound like your issue. It's possible to run Capture sucessfully against 100+ page documents -- we do so routinely. Infodata's Compose includes a tool: "Build Composite Document" that works nicely, even on 300+ page docs - but it's not command-line driven - i.e., you must run it against each document. If this would meet your need, I would suggest it as a solution. If you need command-line, or "batching" software, I am not aware of any at this time. I am more than prepared (I am in fact, desirous) for clever folks to prove me wrong... Duff Johnson President, Document Solutions, Inc. __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 7-Nov-1998 21:37:30-GMT,3805;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA08313 for ; Sat, 7 Nov 1998 14:37:29 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA08565; Sat, 7 Nov 1998 15:37:10 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 7 Nov 1998 15:32:13 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA08242; Sat, 7 Nov 1998 15:32:11 -0600 Message-ID: <90001230CD9ED111B47F00608CF26D1E129507@ARTHUR> From: Karl De Abrew To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Combine PDF files Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1998 08:32:47 +1100 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1459.44) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Hello Ramon, You may want to try AppendPDF http://www.digapp.com which I haven't used but I believe doesn't require Acrobat Exchange installed so it may offer you a faster speed of conversion. Additionally, we are currently working on (and have a working version of) four products that may suit your needs. Please note, these all require Acrobat Exchange to be installed. 1. PDF Wizard - it allows you to merge and split PDFs using a wizard UI. 2. A command line application which allows to merge and split PDFs. 3. Extensions to RTS Import (automates the import-image plugin) which allow it to import images and then merge them based upon a number of rules (all files in folder, alphabetically). Note this is Image only (not Image + Text). 4. Our existing product PDFWorkshop. Have a look at http://www.roundtable.com.au/ (click on plugins) Let me know whether these are of any interest to you (privately, of course), and I can arrange a beta version and/or demo version depending on the product (this applies to everyone/anyone). kind regards, Karl De Abrew karl@roundtable.com.au Round Table Solutions http://www.roundtable.com.au/ -----Original Message----- From: Ramon Mellado Villarreal [mailto:rmellado@pobox.com] Sent: Sunday, 8 November 1998 6:35 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Combine PDF files ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== We are processing a bunch of TIF files to PDF using Capture. To keep the processing smooth we process every page of a document separately and then use Compose (or Exchange itself) to merge the individual PDFs. This works OK, but there is a catch... It is taking us a VERY long time to combine documents with more than, say, 50 pages. We have tried documents with 300 or even 1000, but it is impractical if not impossible. Are we doing something wrong? Why does it take so long? Is there a faster way? Has anyone better software for this use? Thanks in advance. __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 8-Nov-1998 15:26:19-GMT,2232;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA26212 for ; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 08:26:18 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA20344; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 09:23:01 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 8 Nov 1998 09:14:30 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA19919; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 09:14:27 -0600 Message-ID: <3645B73E.2C63A5BB@cybertron.com> Date: Sun, 08 Nov 1998 09:22:39 -0600 From: Michael and Gulden Barry X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Visioneer Scanner to PDF File Format Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== I currently have a Visioneer Vx Single sheet scanner with 4.0 software running on NT. Version 4.0 does support NT, however it does not allow me to save into .pdf format. I had been running Win95 and Visioneer software 3.5 which allowed me to save into .pdf format. Visioneer's solution was to save as a .TIFF file (extremely large file) and then open up in Acrobat and then save as a .pdf file. This seems tedious and may not be the only solution. Hopefully, with your help, there is another way! Is there another single sheet scanner out there that supports this? Can I just buy Adobe Acrobat or Adobe Capture and add the link to Visioneer's save as icons? Thanks. __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 8-Nov-1998 20:51:31-GMT,3262;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA01793 for ; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 13:51:25 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA00881; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 14:50:23 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 8 Nov 1998 14:11:22 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA31977; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 14:11:20 -0600 Message-ID: <90001230CD9ED111B47F00608CF26D1E129534@ARTHUR> From: Karl De Abrew To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Visioneer Scanner to PDF File Format Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 07:11:28 +1100 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1459.44) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Hello Michael, Another possible solution is for you to scan directly from Acrobat using the File->Scan menuitem (assuming that your Visioneer scanner is TWAIN compliant). If this option does not appear, then check that you have Acrobat 3.01, and re-install (ensuring that you install the optional scan plugin). kind regards, Karl De Abrew karl@roundtable.com.au A Round Table Solution (ARTS) - PlanetPDF coming soon ... http://www.roundtable.com.au/ -----Original Message----- From: Michael and Gulden Barry [mailto:barrygm@cybertron.com] Sent: Monday, 9 November 1998 2:23 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Visioneer Scanner to PDF File Format ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== I currently have a Visioneer Vx Single sheet scanner with 4.0 software running on NT. Version 4.0 does support NT, however it does not allow me to save into .pdf format. I had been running Win95 and Visioneer software 3.5 which allowed me to save into .pdf format. Visioneer's solution was to save as a .TIFF file (extremely large file) and then open up in Acrobat and then save as a .pdf file. This seems tedious and may not be the only solution. Hopefully, with your help, there is another way! Is there another single sheet scanner out there that supports this? Can I just buy Adobe Acrobat or Adobe Capture and add the link to Visioneer's save as icons? Thanks. __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 8-Nov-1998 23:56:20-GMT,2332;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA04948 for ; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 16:56:14 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA08998; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 17:55:29 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 8 Nov 1998 17:46:34 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA08473; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 17:46:32 -0600 Message-Id: <199811082346.SAA20035@uakron.edu> From: "D. P. Story" Organization: The University of Akron To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1998 18:42:22 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: [PDF] Acrobat 4.0 X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01b) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Hi All; I'll be giving a talk on my work with PDF in New Orleans in a couple of weeks. I would like to be a little informed about Acrobat 4.0. Does anyone have any public domain knowlege of new featues, capabilities, extensions to the PDF Specs, form features, etc? Roll out date? I would appreciate any information on the subject you might have. Regards, dps Dr. D. P. Story dpstory@uakron.edu http://www.math.uakron.edu/~dpstory/ Dept of Mathematics and Computer Science / University of Akron / Akron, Ohio 44325 AcroTeX Site Overview: http://www.math.uakron.edu/~dpstory/acrotex.html Site Includes: e-Calculus, Algebra Review in Ten Lessons, Mathematics Games, Pdfmarks:Links & Forms, Using LaTeX to Create Quality PDF Documents for the WWW, and much, much more. __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 9-Nov-1998 1:19:01-GMT,2621;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA06394 for ; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 18:18:56 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA12931; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 19:18:18 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 8 Nov 1998 19:10:17 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA12560; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 19:10:12 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199811082346.SAA20035@uakron.edu> Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1998 19:12:56 -0600 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Kurt Foss Subject: Re: [PDF] Acrobat 4.0 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== We must ask that those with non-public info about Acrobat v.4 please refrain from posting such details to this public list. Those familiar with the beta version most likely have signed agreements that forbid them from talking about any future products prior to their release. rgds ~ Kurt === ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== I'll be giving a talk on my work with PDF in New Orleans in a couple of weeks. I would like to be a little informed about Acrobat 4.0. Does anyone have any public domain knowlege of new featues, capabilities, extensions to the PDF Specs, form features, etc? Roll out date? __________________________________________________ * P D F z o n e . 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Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 9-Nov-1998 2:12:08-GMT,1810;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA07311 for ; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 19:12:07 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA15204; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 20:11:46 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 8 Nov 1998 20:05:33 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA14918; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 20:05:32 -0600 Message-ID: <364650C9.AC8454BB@earthlink.net> Date: Sun, 08 Nov 1998 21:17:48 -0500 From: Scottie X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Fonts in Form Fields References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Does anybody know if we could use different fonts for form fields. The only choices that I have are Times, Helvectica, Courier, Symbols and Zapf. How can we use more than these. Scottie __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 9-Nov-1998 3:54:00-GMT,2172;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA09096 for ; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 20:53:59 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA19447; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 21:53:09 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 8 Nov 1998 21:39:36 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA18829; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 21:39:34 -0600 From: alison_horan@sydney.sterling.com Message-Id: <9811099105.AA910582688@sydney.sterling.com> X-Mailer: ccMail Link to SMTP R8.11.00.3 Date: Mon, 09 Nov 98 14:36:38 +1000 To: Subject: [PDF] Adobe Blind Copy Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: "cc:Mail Note Part" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Has anyone had any success using the Adobe Blind Copy initialisation file? I would like to use this feature to create a shortcut which will run Acrobat and open a file from the source (CD), however I am not having any success. I have searched the Adobe site and have discovered that they provide this as a courtesy and do not provide any support. I would be interested to know if anyone else has used this. I am running NT 4.0 using the Acrobat Reader with search 3.0. Thanks Alison Alison_Horan@sydney.sterling.com __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 9-Nov-1998 4:11:57-GMT,2095;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA09401 for ; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 21:11:56 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA20310; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 22:11:46 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 8 Nov 1998 21:59:01 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA19663; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 21:58:59 -0600 Message-ID: <3647B94A.8311A4BE@ix.netcom.com> Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 19:55:54 -0800 From: William Belk X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "pdf@lists.pdfzone.com" Subject: [PDF] Named Destination Problems Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== I'm trying to embed named destinations into a 150-page pdf without success. I'm placing the named destinations following "ENDSETUP" per instructions found on PDFZone's site. The naming convention follows the instructions found in PDFMARK. A typical notation is [/Dest /isboe/p. 41/DEST isboe When I distill the PS file, I get an error message %%[Error:undefined;OffendingCommand: isboe]%% Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Of course, an impending deadline looms. William Belk Publishing Technologies Manager IT Corporation __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 9-Nov-1998 6:39:55-GMT,3345;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA12054 for ; Sun, 8 Nov 1998 23:39:54 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA26562; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 00:39:26 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 9 Nov 1998 00:25:46 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA25888; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 00:25:44 -0600 Message-ID: <000201be0ba9$92bea9e0$190d9fcf@default> From: "Jim and Marguerite Ripley" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] Visioneer Scanner to PDF File Format Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1998 22:18:59 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2120.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2120.0 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== I am using PaperPort 5.3 with a HP ScanJet 4s. When I installed, PaperPort automatically offered a 16 and 32 bit link to Exchange. This provided options for OCR Capture, image only and image plus text. You also can export from the PaperPort desktop using regular tiff or multi-page tiff with compression. I have found the Group 4 compression to provide the best results for me. -----Original Message----- From: Michael and Gulden Barry To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: Sunday, November 08, 1998 7:30 AM Subject: [PDF] Visioneer Scanner to PDF File Format > >====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > >I currently have a Visioneer Vx Single sheet scanner with 4.0 software >running on NT. Version 4.0 does support NT, however it does not allow >me to save into .pdf format. I had been running Win95 and Visioneer >software 3.5 which allowed me to save into .pdf format. Visioneer's >solution was to save as a .TIFF file (extremely large file) and then >open up in Acrobat and then save as a .pdf file. This seems tedious and >may not be the only solution. Hopefully, with your help, there is >another way! Is there another single sheet scanner out there that >supports this? Can I just buy Adobe Acrobat or Adobe Capture and add >the link to Visioneer's save as icons? Thanks. > > >__________________________________________________________ > >-> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- >*** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** >+ For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + >__________________________________________________________ > __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 9-Nov-1998 9:05:04-GMT,2618;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA14793 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 02:05:03 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA32464; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 03:04:27 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 9 Nov 1998 02:49:50 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA31715; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 02:49:49 -0600 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Named Destination Problems Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 08:47:04 -0000 Message-ID: <000101be0bbd$91c23160$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-Reply-To: <3647B94A.8311A4BE@ix.netcom.com> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > I'm placing the named destinations following "ENDSETUP" per > instructions found on PDFZone's site. The naming convention > follows the > instructions found in PDFMARK. > A typical notation is > [/Dest /isboe/p. 41/DEST isboe > > When I distill the PS file, I get an error message > %%[Error:undefined;OffendingCommand: isboe]%% > > Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Of course, an impending > deadline looms. You have taken several liberties with PostScript, and you must be very precise. Here is an example from the original at http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/tips/tip0005.html, assuming that is the reference you are using. [/Dest /PDFZONE /Page 31 /DEST pdfmark All that you may change is the name (/PDFZONE) and the page number. You have also changed the word "pdfmark", and abbreviated "/Page". There is little chance distiller will understand and forgive. Aandi __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 9-Nov-1998 9:05:04-GMT,2201;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA14794 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 02:05:03 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA32463; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 03:04:27 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 9 Nov 1998 02:49:50 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA31694; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 02:49:46 -0600 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Fonts in Form Fields Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 08:40:43 -0000 Message-ID: <000001be0bbd$902634a0$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-Reply-To: <364650C9.AC8454BB@earthlink.net> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > Does anybody know if we could use different fonts for form > fields. The > only choices that I have are Times, Helvectica, Courier, Symbols and > Zapf. How can we use more than these. You can't, for what the user types. You could, in theory, for the static part of the fields, by designing them as separate PDF files and placing them as "icons". Technically, using any different fonts for forms is a challenging task; the list of fonts is not randomly chosen. Aandi __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 9-Nov-1998 10:35:05-GMT,1907;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA16381 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 03:35:04 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA03461; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 04:34:46 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 9 Nov 1998 04:27:57 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA03117; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 04:27:55 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19981109112609.00a577a0@localhost> X-Sender: larein@localhost X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 11:26:09 +0100 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Lars Einarsen Subject: [PDF] Saving FDF file from Reader Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Is it possible to extract and save FDF data file on a local drive from a PDF forms document without 1) having to install Exchange, or 2) run a CGI script that remotely merges the FDF (from a Submit) and a template to serve back to the browser? I would like to have a self containd solution that runs inside the Reader/Browser. -Lars __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 9-Nov-1998 12:16:03-GMT,2188;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA18040 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 05:16:01 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA07696; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 06:14:43 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 9 Nov 1998 06:08:11 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA07379; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 06:08:06 -0600 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Saving FDF file from Reader Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 12:04:02 -0000 Message-ID: <000701be0bd9$0e5c6ea0$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19981109112609.00a577a0@localhost> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > > Is it possible to extract and save FDF data file on a local > drive from a > PDF forms document without > 1) having to install Exchange, > or > 2) run a CGI script that remotely merges the FDF (from a > Submit) and a > template to serve back to the browser? No. Adobe specifically forbid this, because they like selling copies of Exchange. Nobody can legally write a plug-in that removes the need for Exchange in this case. Aandi __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 9-Nov-1998 13:03:12-GMT,2546;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA18845 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 06:03:11 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA10167; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 07:03:00 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 9 Nov 1998 06:58:13 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA09844; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 06:58:10 -0600 From: "Jim Cullen" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Adobe Blind Copy Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 08:01:04 -0500 Message-ID: <000101be0be1$021302a0$478799d1@oemcomputer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 In-Reply-To: <9811099105.AA910582688@sydney.sterling.com> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== I've had success with every other feature in the Blind Copy install. I think the Create Shourtcut feature is broken. I've tried it and I know others that have and we can't figure it out. If anyone has had a success with this I would like to hear about it. I gave up on trying months ago. > Has anyone had any success using the Adobe Blind Copy initialisation > file? I would like to use this feature to create a shortcut which > will run Acrobat and open a file from the source (CD), however I am > not having any success. I have searched the Adobe site and have > discovered that they provide this as a courtesy and do not provide any > support. I would be interested to know if anyone else has used this. > I am running NT 4.0 using the Acrobat Reader with search 3.0. __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 9-Nov-1998 13:33:22-GMT,2923;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA19415 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 06:33:21 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA11929; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 07:32:59 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 9 Nov 1998 07:27:44 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA11555; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 07:27:43 -0600 X-Sender: prodok@pop.eunet.ch Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19981109112609.00a577a0@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 14:23:40 +0100 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Max Wyss Subject: Re: [PDF] Saving FDF file from Reader Cc: Lars Einarsen Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Lars, So far, the only two ways to get FDFs out of you form are either to export the FDF, for which you need Exchange, or to submit it to a webserver, where you would need a CGI script. Exchange is available in bulk at a (kind of) reasonable price. For further information about that, you might contact Adobe. You can, of course, run a minimal web server on your local machine. Condition is that it supports CGI, and you have the scripts. If the FDFs are kind of static, you can create them externally, and with the /F option, you can specify the base PDF for them. A programmatically introduced Import command, or a Launch command works with Reader in file server mode. Hope, this can help. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering AG Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch WWW: http://www.prodok.ch/prodok Bridging the Knowledge Gap ______________________ >Is it possible to extract and save FDF data file on a local drive from a >PDF forms document without > 1) having to install Exchange, >or > 2) run a CGI script that remotely merges the FDF (from a Submit) and a >template to serve back to the browser? > >I would like to have a self containd solution that runs inside the >Reader/Browser. > >-Lars __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 9-Nov-1998 16:51:11-GMT,2343;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA23705 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 09:50:09 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA25541; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 10:49:16 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 9 Nov 1998 10:44:11 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA25098; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 10:44:10 -0600 X-Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated X-Division: Core Technology X-Department: Product Interoperability Analysis X-URL: Message-Id: <4.1.19981109084218.00a46290@mail-303> X-Sender: isaacs@mail-303 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 X-Priority: 5 (Lowest) Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 08:43:59 -0800 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com, Scottie From: Dov Isaacs Subject: Re: [PDF] Fonts in Form Fields In-Reply-To: <364650C9.AC8454BB@earthlink.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== At 11/8/98 06:17 PM , you wrote: > >====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > >Does anybody know if we could use different fonts for form fields. The >only choices that I have are Times, Helvectica, Courier, Symbols and >Zapf. How can we use more than these. > >Scottie Sorry, but it is a current restriction of the product. Reason - these are the only fonts that Acrobat can safely assume are installed on any user's system that has Acrobat installed. - Dov __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 9-Nov-1998 22:18:45-GMT,3436;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA02034 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 15:18:44 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA17491; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 16:18:08 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 9 Nov 1998 16:14:30 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA17180; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 16:14:28 -0600 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19981109221431.00d95c54@env-sol.com> X-Sender: thiersch@env-sol.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 14:14:31 -0800 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Tom Thiersch Subject: Re: [PDF] batch conversions Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== The following was submitted to PDF-L about 6 months ago by Karl De Abrew; it should do what you want. [with minor edits] Here is an example of a very simple Microsoft Word 97 macro which you could use to convert all of the documents in a folder called 'c:\worddocstoconvert' to ps [and subsequently use the distiller to convert to pdf]. You could extend this macro to save the postscript file directly into a watched folder [perhaps c:\worddocstoconvert\in] with minimal effort. Sub PrintAllWordToPS() ' Date: 16 Apr 1998 ' Author: Karl De Abrew ' http://www.roundtable.com.au/ Dim strFileName As String Dim strPath As String ' Replace this with your word doc strPath = "c:\worddocstoconvert\" ' Get the first word doc in the directory strFileName = Dir(strPath + "*.doc", vbNormal) Do While strFileName <> "" Documents.Open FileName:=strPath + strFileName Documents(strFileName).PrintOut PrintToFile:=True, outputfilename:=strPath + Left(strFileName, Len(strFileName) - 3) + "ps" Documents.Close ' Get the next word doc in the directory strFileName = Dir Loop End Sub At 03:11 PM 11/9/98 -0600, you wrote: > >====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > >is there a third party utility or block of VBA code that enables one to >perform automated batch conversions of documents (in this case ms Word 97) >to pdf's. i've poked around adobe's site and haven't seen anything, have >been unable to dissect adobe's code within the vb editor and haven't seen a >single reference to the capability in the various forums. > >if such an item does not exist, is there one in the development stage? it >would seem very surprising that a function of this nature does not exist >given the level of automation already put in place. wouldn't taking it >another step be both possible and deluxe??? > >thanks for any help you may offer. > >tld __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 9-Nov-1998 22:30:47-GMT,4541;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA02334 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 15:30:45 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA18369; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 16:28:51 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 9 Nov 1998 16:24:52 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA18074; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 16:24:50 -0600 Message-ID: <3647355B0000037B@mailhost.jdpub.com> (added by mailhost.jdpub.com) Date: 09 Nov 98 16:25:00 -0600 From: Jeff Rochon Subject: RE: [PDF] pdf size problem To: pdf X-Mailer: QuickMail Pro 1.5.3 (Mac) X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-Ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id QAA18070 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Reply to: RE: [PDF] pdf size problem if your file contains many illustrator or freehand vector graphics, you will get extremely large files. distiller doesn't compress those files very much. one way to get the file size down is to REBAKE the pdf file in distiller. to try this open the pdf in acrobat exchange and EXPORT the document as a eps file with preview. include all fonts. then redistill the file. this will force the vector graphics to convert into bmap images taking advantage of the compression settings in distiller. hope this helps. best regards, jeff rochon Clay Meyer wrote: > >====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > >I'm trying to convert a 28 page, full-color newsletter created in >QuarkXpress 4.0 (Mac) into a PDF file. I am consistently getting an >enormous file (27.5 Mb) that is impossible to distribute via the web. I >have tried everything I know, using all the compression options, >converting all the graphics/photos to 72 dpi, etc. And nothing seems to >work. I am using the Chooser extension and do not have Acrobat >Distiller. > >If any of you have any ideas on how to get the file size down, I'd >greatly appreciate it. >Thanks! > >mailto://clay@moonlight.net > > >__________________________________________________________ > >-> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- >*** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** >+ For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + >__________________________________________________________ > > >RFC822 header >----------------------------------- > > Return-Path: > Received: from everglades.binc.net (208.155.48.8) by mailhost.jdpub.com >(Worldmail 1.3.167) for jrochon@wi.jdtv.com; 9 Nov 1998 15:56:26 -0600 > Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) > by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA15674; > Mon, 9 Nov 1998 15:57:51 -0600 > Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 9 Nov 1998 >15:57:13 -0600 > Received: (from majordom@localhost) > by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA15628; > Mon, 9 Nov 1998 15:57:08 -0600 > Message-ID: <36475909.BFDB9667@moonlight.net> > Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 16:05:39 -0500 > From: Clay Meyer > Organization: Moonlight Media, Inc. > X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 (Macintosh; I; PPC) > MIME-Version: 1.0 > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: [PDF] pdf size problem > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; >x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ > Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html > Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com > Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com > __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 9-Nov-1998 21:23:51-GMT,2166;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA00444 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 14:23:45 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA12616; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 15:20:42 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 9 Nov 1998 15:12:22 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA11796; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 15:12:20 -0600 From: Troy.L.DeArmitt@mercbcp.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: MTL To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <862566B7.00740551.00@mbi.mercantile.com> Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 15:11:42 -0600 Subject: [PDF] batch conversions Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== is there a third party utility or block of VBA code that enables one to perform automated batch conversions of documents (in this case ms Word 97) to pdf's. i've poked around adobe's site and haven't seen anything, have been unable to dissect adobe's code within the vb editor and haven't seen a single reference to the capability in the various forums. if such an item does not exist, is there one in the development stage? it would seem very surprising that a function of this nature does not exist given the level of automation already put in place. wouldn't taking it another step be both possible and deluxe??? thanks for any help you may offer. tld __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 9-Nov-1998 22:01:25-GMT,2153;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA01551 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 15:01:24 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA15981; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 16:00:48 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 9 Nov 1998 15:57:13 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA15628; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 15:57:08 -0600 Message-ID: <36475909.BFDB9667@moonlight.net> Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 16:05:39 -0500 From: Clay Meyer Organization: Moonlight Media, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] pdf size problem Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== I'm trying to convert a 28 page, full-color newsletter created in QuarkXpress 4.0 (Mac) into a PDF file. I am consistently getting an enormous file (27.5 Mb) that is impossible to distribute via the web. I have tried everything I know, using all the compression options, converting all the graphics/photos to 72 dpi, etc. And nothing seems to work. I am using the Chooser extension and do not have Acrobat Distiller. If any of you have any ideas on how to get the file size down, I'd greatly appreciate it. Thanks! mailto://clay@moonlight.net __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 9-Nov-1998 22:44:49-GMT,2304;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA02669 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 15:44:47 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA19531; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 16:44:23 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 9 Nov 1998 16:40:36 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA19290; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 16:40:35 -0600 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] pdf size problem Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 22:37:42 -0000 Message-ID: <000601be0c31$a1eac100$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <36475909.BFDB9667@moonlight.net> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > I'm trying to convert a 28 page, full-color newsletter created in > QuarkXpress 4.0 (Mac) into a PDF file. I am consistently getting an > enormous file (27.5 Mb) that is impossible to distribute via > the web. I > have tried everything I know, using all the compression options, > converting all the graphics/photos to 72 dpi, etc. And > nothing seems to > work. I am using the Chooser extension and do not have Acrobat > Distiller. That is the problem. PDFWriter is completely unsuitable for XPress. You must buy Distiller; then you can work on getting the size down. Aandi __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 9-Nov-1998 23:28:28-GMT,1867;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA06697 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 16:28:23 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA22329; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 17:27:47 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 9 Nov 1998 17:23:46 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA22056; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 17:23:44 -0600 X-ROUTED: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 19:24:44 -0500 Message-ID: <36477A00.A7F02121@eisolutions.com> Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 18:25:52 -0500 From: Michael Stearne X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "pdf@lists.pdfzone.com" Subject: [PDF] Building PDFLib Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Has anyone built PDFLib 0.6 on FreeBSD 2.2.7? I am having trouble building the library and would appreciate any help. I get a ton of makefile", line 196: Unassociated shell command "$(PDFLIB_TCL) until the make dies. Thanks, Michael Stearne __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 10-Nov-1998 0:29:25-GMT,3121;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA08174 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 17:29:24 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA25613; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 18:27:44 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 9 Nov 1998 18:23:27 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA25333; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 18:23:26 -0600 Message-ID: <02e501be0c3f$bc258100$fb1cd3d4@jonathan> From: "Jonathan West" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] batch conversions Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 22:12:57 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Hi Troy, Multilinker is designed to do this. Follow the link in my sig. Regards Jonathan West Multilinker - Automated generation of hyperlinks in Word Conversion to PDF & HTML http://www.multilinker.com -----Original Message----- From: Troy.L.DeArmitt@mercbcp.com To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: 09 November 1998 21:28 Subject: [PDF] batch conversions > >====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > >is there a third party utility or block of VBA code that enables one to >perform automated batch conversions of documents (in this case ms Word 97) >to pdf's. i've poked around adobe's site and haven't seen anything, have >been unable to dissect adobe's code within the vb editor and haven't seen a >single reference to the capability in the various forums. > >if such an item does not exist, is there one in the development stage? it >would seem very surprising that a function of this nature does not exist >given the level of automation already put in place. wouldn't taking it >another step be both possible and deluxe??? > >thanks for any help you may offer. > >tld > > > >__________________________________________________________ > >-> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- >*** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** >+ For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + >__________________________________________________________ > > __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 10-Nov-1998 0:48:17-GMT,3730;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA08570 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 17:48:16 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA26708; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 18:47:57 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 9 Nov 1998 18:44:34 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA26477; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 18:44:33 -0600 Message-ID: <36478D47.AE0AD256@lsijax.com> Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 19:48:07 -0500 From: Tracie DeVoe X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Combine PDF files X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: <001601be09b6$f6e2a920$3e3ea8c0@davec.docctrl.com> <3644A0F8.589A0917@pobox.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Hi Ramon, I'm not sure why it's taking so long for you. We also process a number of 'large' documents this way (scan each page to a single tif file, process to single PDF files, and combine the PDFs into manuals). We have our reasons (list don't shoot me) and can process approximately 1700 pages in one batch job (runs on an NT machine with at least 1 GB free disk space and 64 MB RAM). I'm not sure if this would be considered 'slow'. I've written the batch software in Visual Basic so it isn't cross-platform. If you or anyone else on the list would like to have the 'batch combine' code, email me privately and I'll send it (next week - on the road now). I use OLE to Exchange - so Exchange would have to be on that system. It will probably have to be modified since I wrote it in a hurry and it's set up for our structure only. If you're interested, contact me privately (or if you just have questions). HTH, Tracie ******************************** * Tracie DeVoe * Logistic Services International * tdevoe@lsijax.com ******************************** Ramon Mellado Villarreal wrote: > ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > > We are processing a bunch of TIF files to PDF using Capture. To keep > the > processing smooth we process every page of a document separately and > then use > Compose (or Exchange itself) to merge the individual PDFs. This works > OK, but > there is a catch... > > It is taking us a VERY long time to combine documents with more than, > say, 50 > pages. We have tried documents with 300 or even 1000, but it is > impractical if > not impossible. > > Are we doing something wrong? Why does it take so long? Is there a > faster > way? Has anyone better software for this use? > > Thanks in advance. > > __________________________________________________________ > > -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- > *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** > + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + > __________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 10-Nov-1998 3:35:19-GMT,2404;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA14652 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 20:35:18 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA02125; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 21:33:34 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 9 Nov 1998 21:28:51 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA01725; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 21:28:49 -0600 From: Ihor Prociuk To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] batch conversions In-Reply-To: <862566B7.00740551.00@mbi.mercantile.com> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 19:01:48 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time) X-Mailer: Simeon for Win32 Version 4.1.5 Build (43) X-Authentication: IMSP MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== On Mon, 9 Nov 1998 16:11:42 -0500 Troy.L.DeArmitt@mercbcp.com wrote: > is there a third party utility or block of VBA code that enables one to > perform automated batch conversions of documents (in this case ms Word 97) > to pdf's.... I'm not sure about the "batch" part of it, but "Adobe PDFMaker 1.0 for Microsoft Word 97" does a nice job on individual files. If you've used Word standard styles (like heading1, toc1, etc.), they get converted to bookmarks and internal links. It get's installed right on your Word toolbar. You'll need PDFWriter 3.0 or Distiller 3.0 to create the pdf files and (of course) Reader or Exchange to view the files. See: http://www.adobe.com/supportservice/custsupport/LIBRARY/4d9e.htm Ihor Prociuk Information Commons University of Toronto __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 10-Nov-1998 4:27:18-GMT,3518;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA15631 for ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 21:27:17 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA05210; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 22:26:58 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 9 Nov 1998 22:23:33 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA05018; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 22:23:32 -0600 From: "David Cornwell" To: Cc: Subject: RE: [PDF] batch conversions Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 04:19:32 -0000 Message-ID: <003301be0c61$5169c5c0$3e3ea8c0@davec.docctrl.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2120.0 In-Reply-To: <862566B7.00740551.00@mbi.mercantile.com> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Our Local Render product does exactly this. Check out www.docctrl.com or contact me off list to obtain eval. Regards drc --- David Cornwell, Director - Business Development Computerised Document Control Ltd PO Box 5, Chepstow, Monmouthshire, NP6 6YU, United Kingdom Tel: + 44 (0) 1291 635 403 (direct) ; USA: 1-888-240-1752 Fax: + 44 (0) 1291 623 902 www.docctrl.com Forging the link between Document Systems and Acrobat > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com [mailto:owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com]On > Behalf Of Troy.L.DeArmitt@mercbcp.com > Sent: 09 November 1998 21:12 > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: [PDF] batch conversions > > > > ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > > is there a third party utility or block of VBA code that enables one to > perform automated batch conversions of documents (in this case ms Word 97) > to pdf's. i've poked around adobe's site and haven't seen anything, have > been unable to dissect adobe's code within the vb editor and > haven't seen a > single reference to the capability in the various forums. > > if such an item does not exist, is there one in the development stage? it > would seem very surprising that a function of this nature does not exist > given the level of automation already put in place. wouldn't taking it > another step be both possible and deluxe??? > > thanks for any help you may offer. > > tld > > > > __________________________________________________________ > > -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- > *** Sponsorship & Advt. 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Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 10-Nov-1998 11:00:00-GMT,6344;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA22761 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 03:59:59 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA25345; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 04:58:07 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 10 Nov 1998 04:53:43 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA25067; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 04:53:41 -0600 Message-Id: <98Nov10.125229gmt+0100.29572-1@baz-s-fw.baz.ch> From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?M=2E_V=E9ron?= To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: AW: [PDF] Combine PDF files Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 13:50:05 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="---- =_NextPart_000_01BE0CA0.4612F220" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== ------ =_NextPart_000_01BE0CA0.4612F220 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ramon, There is a free tool called pdcat on = http://www.glance.ch/html/tool_samples.html Give it a try! Marc V=E9ron BMG ComServ AG PDF-Team Hochbergerstr. 15 Postfach CH - 4002 Basel Telefon: +41 - 639 16 90 Direkt: +41 - 639 12 58 Fax: +41 - 631 53 10 m.veron@baz.ch ---------- Von: Ramon Mellado Villarreal[SMTP:rmellado@pobox.com] Gesendet: Samstag, 7. November 1998 20:35 An: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Betreff: [PDF] Combine PDF files =3D=3D=3D=3D> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM = <=3D=3D=3D=3D We are processing a bunch of TIF files to PDF using Capture. To keep = the processing smooth we process every page of a document separately and = then use Compose (or Exchange itself) to merge the individual PDFs. This works = OK, but there is a catch... It is taking us a VERY long time to combine documents with more than, = say, 50 pages. We have tried documents with 300 or even 1000, but it is = impractical if not impossible. Are we doing something wrong? Why does it take so long? Is there a = faster way? Has anyone better software for this use? 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Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 10-Nov-1998 11:50:28-GMT,1890;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA23620 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 04:50:27 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA28017; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 05:50:10 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 10 Nov 1998 05:46:38 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA27757; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 05:46:36 -0600 Message-Id: <199811101146.MAA17832@d1o202.telia.com> Subject: Re: [PDF] Combine PDF files Date: Tue, 10 Nov 98 12:46:50 +0100 x-sender: u222600675@m1.2226.telia.com x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: Richard Taubo To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Hi! For all Apple users: I have created an Applescript that will add all pdf files in a folder to a "base" pdf file (the "base" file is the first file in your new enlarged pdf file). It is easy to use, and -- best of all -- it is completely free!! Contact me at ort@bergersen.no, and I will send you a copy! Best Regards, Richard Taubo Bergersen as __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 10-Nov-1998 17:36:25-GMT,2286;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA00888 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 10:36:19 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA18928; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 11:35:12 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 10 Nov 1998 11:29:40 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA18339; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 11:29:39 -0600 Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 12:30:37 -0500 (EST) X-Sender: diana@pop.interport.net (Unverified) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Diana Holm Subject: [PDF] Security Issues Cc: h.goldsmith@ecch.cranfield.ac.uk Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Hayley, Here is our two cents -- that's two pennies for you -- on the issue. I presume you're referring to the problem of people printing PDFs to PostScript and then re-Distilling to PDF (aka "refrying"). The simple solution is to prohibit printing. The more complex solution is to limit how many times and to what devices the document can be printed. The next version of FileOpen PDF will support print restrictions of this type. In the meantime you might want to evaluate the current version of FileOpen PDF, available from http://www.fileopen.com/ Best Regards, Diana Holm Director of Marketing Diana Holm Director of Marketing FileOpen Systems Inc. 101 West 85th Street, Suite 1-4 New York, NY 10024 http://www.fileopen.com __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 10-Nov-1998 18:33:00-GMT,2112;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA02505 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 11:32:59 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA22941; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 12:31:26 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 10 Nov 1998 12:28:53 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA22724; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 12:28:51 -0600 Message-ID: <364887C7.3D36DCBC@gtsgraphics.com> Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 10:36:56 -0800 From: Judith Strawser X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Viewing verification audit trail References: <199811100328.VAA01742@everglades.binc.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== We are in the process of providing an educational CD/Web product for a certification program. ( The files, of course, are in PDF.) The customer would like to have verification that the student has actually viewed all the pages in a file, whether it's via CD or the Web. Has anyone had a similar request or can point to a plug-in? The product will have to work on both Macs and PCs. We have Mac, NT and UNIX systems in house to produce the product. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Judith Strawser __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 10-Nov-1998 18:53:38-GMT,2404;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA03030 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 11:53:21 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA24418; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 12:49:54 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 10 Nov 1998 12:46:55 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA24157; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 12:46:54 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19981110133757.006bc210@pobox3.bbn.com> X-Sender: apdavis@pobox3.bbn.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 13:37:57 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Allan Davis Subject: [PDF] Why still 2.1 Compatibility? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== This is probably an old and hoary FAQ, but why would you want to maintain compatibility with Acrobat 2.1? The people at the company I have recently begun working for check the "2.1 compatibility" radio button before PDFing. Questions: Is the compatiblity for the sake of the Reader, Exchange, or both? If it's just the reader, why would you need to make it compatible with a freebie that was updated two years ago? If the concern is meaningless, or if "2.1 compatiblity" is in fact no longer an issue, why does Adobe continue to include the option as a radio button, even in relatively new products (PDFMaker). What are the compelling advantages (there must be some) to making a PDF "3.0 compatible" only? ===================== Allan Davis GTE Internetworking (617) 873-8237 apdavis@bbnplanet.com ===================== __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 10-Nov-1998 19:17:41-GMT,1826;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA03691 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 12:17:40 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA26513; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 13:16:30 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 10 Nov 1998 13:12:45 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA26234; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 13:12:44 -0600 Message-ID: From: "Alberstat, Mark" To: PDF Group Subject: [PDF] FM to PDF hyperlink problem Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 15:08:13 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Hello All, We are taking a book in FrameMaker 5.5.3 and outplutting a PDF version. The hyperlinks in the pdf come out with clear boarders (can't see that the text is hyperlinked). Is there anyway to globallly change this setting? Thanks, Mark Alberstat IMP Group Ltd. mark.alberstat@impgroup.com __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. 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To: PDF listserver Message-ID: <199811101423_MC2-5FC8-F7B2@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id NAA27082 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Allan, >Is the compatiblity for the sake of the Reader, Exchange, or >both? If it's just the reader, why would you need to make >it compatible with a freebie that was updated two years ago? I still receive calls like 'I am distilling files, but only to figure out that my CMYK is gone, and I did not click CMYK to RGB conversion...', and then after some reasoning and asking I find out people are using Distiller 1.0 ... While free Reader 3.0x has been around for about 2 years now, it may still happen quite often that people still do have the 2.1 version around, and if they are only using it to read tech doc files, well there is no need to update. And then, why force them? Especially for plain technical documentation to be put on the web I can't see a disadvantage of setting the 2.1-compatibility option... >If the concern is meaningless, or if "2.1 compatiblity" >is in fact no longer an issue, why does Adobe continue to >include the option as a radio button, even in relatively >new products (PDFMaker). If there is one thing I'd never blame a vendor for this is if he leaves an option to me instead of removing it. 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X-Sender-Ip: 199.202.109.10 Organization: MyWorldMail (http://www.myworldmail.com:80) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== -- On Tue, 10 Nov 1998 13:37:57 Allan Davis wrote: > >====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > > >This is probably an old and hoary FAQ, >but why would you want to maintain compatibility >with Acrobat 2.1? > >The people at the company I have recently begun working for >check the "2.1 compatibility" radio button before PDFing. > >Questions: > >Is the compatiblity for the sake of the Reader, Exchange, or >both? If it's just the reader, why would you need to make >it compatible with a freebie that was updated two years ago? > >If the concern is meaningless, or if "2.1 compatiblity" >is in fact no longer an issue, why does Adobe continue to >include the option as a radio button, even in relatively >new products (PDFMaker). > >What are the compelling advantages (there must be some) >to making a PDF "3.0 compatible" only? > > > >===================== >Allan Davis >GTE Internetworking >(617) 873-8237 >apdavis@bbnplanet.com >===================== > >__________________________________________________________ > >-> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- >*** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** >+ For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + >__________________________________________________________ > >Please cancel subscription A FREE web-based e-mail service brought to you by the PC World Technology Network. 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Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 10-Nov-1998 19:35:54-GMT,3990;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA04245 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 12:35:48 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA28421; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 13:35:05 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 10 Nov 1998 13:32:27 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA28103; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 13:32:25 -0600 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19981110193301.00d9d73c@env-sol.com> X-Sender: thiersch@env-sol.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 11:33:01 -0800 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Tom Thiersch Subject: Re: [PDF] Why still 2.1 Compatibility? Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Allan, re: ">but why would you want to maintain compatibility with Acrobat 2.1?" There were about 20 million (maybe more) copies of Acrobat Reader 2.x distributed; you can't expect that all of those will have been upgraded yet. In many (usually the largest) corporations, users aren't allowed to upgrade "their" PC software, and some corps just haven't gotten around to upgrading everyone to 3.x yet. Another reason that people are still using 2.1 is that they purchased some PDF-based software that is licensed to a specific Acrobat Exchange-LE serial number, or uses a security or other plug-in that only works with 2.1. These are typically high-cost products, and people are understandably reluctant to upgrade them (if an upgrade is even available). As we know, 2.1 and 3.x cannot reliably coexist on the same PC, so many people are stuck with using the old version. Of course, since most of the new PDFs on the web, on CDs, etc. are being created for 3.x compatibility, the 2.1 users are being left increasingly-far behind, but that's the way it goes... re: ">What are the compelling advantages (there must be some) to making a PDF "3.0 compatible" only?" The main reason I use 3.x mode is that it produces substantially smaller file sizes; this is because it uses ZIP compression instead of LZW. This allows me to fit my primary product on 2 instead of 3 CDs! There are lots of other 3.x-only features (forms, for example). Tom Thiersch At 01:37 PM 11/10/98 -0500, you wrote: > >====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > > >This is probably an old and hoary FAQ, >but why would you want to maintain compatibility >with Acrobat 2.1? > >The people at the company I have recently begun working for >check the "2.1 compatibility" radio button before PDFing. > >Questions: > >Is the compatiblity for the sake of the Reader, Exchange, or >both? If it's just the reader, why would you need to make >it compatible with a freebie that was updated two years ago? > >If the concern is meaningless, or if "2.1 compatiblity" >is in fact no longer an issue, why does Adobe continue to >include the option as a radio button, even in relatively >new products (PDFMaker). > >What are the compelling advantages (there must be some) >to making a PDF "3.0 compatible" only? > >===================== >Allan Davis >GTE Internetworking >(617) 873-8237 >apdavis@bbnplanet.com >===================== __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 10-Nov-1998 20:09:55-GMT,2122;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA05093 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 13:09:52 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA30878; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 14:06:30 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 10 Nov 1998 14:03:06 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA30616; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 14:03:01 -0600 From: Charles_Richardson@vapower.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: VANCPOWER To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <852566B8.006E21D2.00@ojsmtpmta02.vapower.com> Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 15:03:09 -0500 Subject: Re: [PDF] FM to PDF hyperlink problem Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== We have had success using a consistent color character tag as part of our cross-reference formats or our hypertext character tag delimiters. These appear in PDF in their original colors. There are third-party products that will add other forms of distinction, but we are of the opinion that they are intrusive. Mark Alberstat wrote: We are taking a book in FrameMaker 5.5.3 and outplutting a PDF version. The hyperlinks in the pdf come out with clear boarders (can't see that the text is hyperlinked). Is there anyway to globallly change this setting? __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 10-Nov-1998 21:26:33-GMT,5159;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA07100 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 14:26:32 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA03607; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 15:22:47 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 10 Nov 1998 15:16:53 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA03129; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 15:16:52 -0600 Message-ID: From: Nathan Keller To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] Why still 2.1 Compatibility? Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 13:16:59 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Re: "The main reason I use 3.x mode is that it produces substantially smaller file sizes; this is because it uses ZIP compression instead of LZW. This allows me to fit my primary product on 2 instead of 3 CDs!" - Tom Thiersch When using zip compression for Color/Grayscale Images, does it make the images open slower or change how they look? When using 3.x compatibility mode, does it make the file un-openable in Reader 2.x or does it just leave some of the functions disabled? Sincerely, Nathan Keller Technical Support Career Guidance Foundation nathank@cgf.org (800) 854-2670 http://www.collegesource.org -----Original Message----- From: Tom Thiersch [mailto:thiersch@env-sol.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 1998 11:33 AM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Why still 2.1 Compatibility? ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Allan, re: ">but why would you want to maintain compatibility with Acrobat 2.1?" There were about 20 million (maybe more) copies of Acrobat Reader 2.x distributed; you can't expect that all of those will have been upgraded yet. In many (usually the largest) corporations, users aren't allowed to upgrade "their" PC software, and some corps just haven't gotten around to upgrading everyone to 3.x yet. Another reason that people are still using 2.1 is that they purchased some PDF-based software that is licensed to a specific Acrobat Exchange-LE serial number, or uses a security or other plug-in that only works with 2.1. These are typically high-cost products, and people are understandably reluctant to upgrade them (if an upgrade is even available). As we know, 2.1 and 3.x cannot reliably coexist on the same PC, so many people are stuck with using the old version. Of course, since most of the new PDFs on the web, on CDs, etc. are being created for 3.x compatibility, the 2.1 users are being left increasingly-far behind, but that's the way it goes... re: ">What are the compelling advantages (there must be some) to making a PDF "3.0 compatible" only?" The main reason I use 3.x mode is that it produces substantially smaller file sizes; this is because it uses ZIP compression instead of LZW. This allows me to fit my primary product on 2 instead of 3 CDs! There are lots of other 3.x-only features (forms, for example). Tom Thiersch At 01:37 PM 11/10/98 -0500, you wrote: > >====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > > >This is probably an old and hoary FAQ, >but why would you want to maintain compatibility >with Acrobat 2.1? > >The people at the company I have recently begun working for >check the "2.1 compatibility" radio button before PDFing. > >Questions: > >Is the compatiblity for the sake of the Reader, Exchange, or >both? If it's just the reader, why would you need to make >it compatible with a freebie that was updated two years ago? > >If the concern is meaningless, or if "2.1 compatiblity" >is in fact no longer an issue, why does Adobe continue to >include the option as a radio button, even in relatively >new products (PDFMaker). > >What are the compelling advantages (there must be some) >to making a PDF "3.0 compatible" only? > >===================== >Allan Davis >GTE Internetworking >(617) 873-8237 >apdavis@bbnplanet.com >===================== __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 10-Nov-1998 21:44:08-GMT,2373;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA07507 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 14:44:06 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA05202; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 15:43:32 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 10 Nov 1998 15:40:42 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA04947; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 15:40:41 -0600 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] FM to PDF hyperlink problem Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 21:34:14 -0000 Message-ID: <001601be0cf2$6aeeb3c0$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== You should colour your text in Frame. The technique I use is to 1. Define a character style "link" which is all ASIS except that the colour is blue. Try also green, and/or underlining. 2. Define the cross-reference format you are using so that it starts with including the brackets. You can also instantly change the style to black for a printed version. Aandi > Hello All, > > We are taking a book in FrameMaker 5.5.3 and outplutting a > PDF version. > The hyperlinks in the pdf come out with clear boarders (can't see that > the text is hyperlinked). Is there anyway to globallly change this > setting? __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 10-Nov-1998 21:48:28-GMT,2567;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA07629 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 14:48:26 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA05489; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 15:47:02 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 10 Nov 1998 15:44:32 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA05296; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 15:44:31 -0600 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Why still 2.1 Compatibility? Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 21:41:54 -0000 Message-ID: <001801be0cf2$f4879de0$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > When using zip compression for Color/Grayscale Images, does > it make the > images open slower or change how they look? It does not change how they look in any way. Speed is harder to work out. It uses more CPU time, but reads less from the disk; overall it will be faster on most systems. Nobody should EVER be turning off all compression. There seems to be an irrational "fear of compression". Don't give in to it! > When using 3.x > compatibility > mode, does it make the file un-openable in Reader 2.x or does > it just leave > some of the functions disabled? The file is pretty much useless in Reader 2.x except in very rare cases. There are other, less well known, difficulties. For instance, fonts in 3.0 may be stored in a different format that 2.x does not understand. Aandi __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 10-Nov-1998 22:14:35-GMT,1866;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA08295 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 15:14:34 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA07311; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 16:12:07 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 10 Nov 1998 16:09:41 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA07087; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 16:09:39 -0600 Message-ID: <005901be0cf6$99c894a0$150d9fcf@default> From: "Jim and Marguerite Ripley" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] Why still 2.1 Compatibility? Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 14:06:37 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2120.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2120.0 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Dealing with temption. What about pre-press use? > >Nobody should EVER be turning off all compression. >There seems to be an irrational "fear of compression". >Don't give in to it! > >Aandi > __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 10-Nov-1998 22:15:57-GMT,3009;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA08313 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 15:15:56 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA07246; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 16:11:40 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 10 Nov 1998 16:08:51 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA07028; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 16:08:49 -0600 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19981110220924.00d954f8@env-sol.com> X-Sender: thiersch@env-sol.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 14:09:24 -0800 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Tom Thiersch Subject: RE: [PDF] Why still 2.1 Compatibility? Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Nathan, Acrobat 2.x cannot PDFs created in Acrobat 3.0 (ZIP) format. 2.x simply doesn't include a ZIP decompressor. That was my whole point in saying that people who are still using 2.x are being left behind, since they are unable to view any new content being created in Acrobat 3.0 format. I have not noticed any significant difference in opening/viewing speed between the two file compression schemes. As long as the PDFs are created with the same image sampling options, the appearance of images should be identical -- don't confuse the image "compression" method with the PDF file "compression" method (i.e., JPEG medium is still JPEG medium, whether it's ZIP or LZW). Tom Thiersch At 01:16 PM 11/10/98 -0800, you wrote: > >====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > >Re: "The main reason I use 3.x mode is that it produces substantially >smaller >file sizes; this is because it uses ZIP compression instead of LZW. This >allows me to fit my primary product on 2 instead of 3 CDs!" > >- Tom Thiersch > >When using zip compression for Color/Grayscale Images, does it make the >images open slower or change how they look? When using 3.x compatibility >mode, does it make the file un-openable in Reader 2.x or does it just leave >some of the functions disabled? > >Sincerely, > >Nathan Keller >Technical Support >Career Guidance Foundation >nathank@cgf.org >(800) 854-2670 >http://www.collegesource.org __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 10-Nov-1998 22:39:15-GMT,1971;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA08951 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 15:39:14 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA09044; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 16:38:15 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 10 Nov 1998 16:35:02 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA08837; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 16:35:00 -0600 From: Karen_L_Mibus@keybank.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: KEYCORP To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <852566B8.007B15D7.00@keybank.com> Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 17:31:23 -0500 Subject: [PDF] Optimizing PDF Files Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Two not-optimized PDF files were published to our server via CuteFTP. When I downloaded these files from our Intranet server (Netscape), placed them on another server (NT), opened the files in Exchange, and then attempted to optimize them, they would not optimize. Exchange starts the optimization process, but then gets hung up and stops. This seems to indicate that both files became corrupted somehow. Any ideas what may have caused this problem? --Karen __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 10-Nov-1998 22:52:23-GMT,2175;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA09288 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 15:52:21 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA09800; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 16:49:33 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 10 Nov 1998 16:46:50 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA09580; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 16:46:48 -0600 Message-ID: <007b01be0ceb$47083280$04b3b1cc@margaret2.mcneel.com> From: "Margaret Becker" To: Subject: [PDF] International PDF Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 14:47:05 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== We have documents we distribute on the web that I would like to format so it can be printed on either 8 1/2 x 11 paper or European A4 paper. Is this possible, or do I have to have two versions. I know A4 paper is longer and narrower. The text needs to be formatted so it will fit either. I don't care if there is an odd white margin. My European readers get a "load letter paper" message apparently. Margaret Becker Rhino Development Team Robert McNeel & Associates marg@mcneel.com www.mcneel.com (206) 545-9261 __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 10-Nov-1998 22:57:30-GMT,2100;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA09378 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 15:57:25 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA10319; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 16:56:51 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 10 Nov 1998 16:54:14 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA10173; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 16:54:13 -0600 From: sgililland@nexstar.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: NEXSTAR To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <872566B8.007E1D23.00@pigeon.nexstar.com> Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 14:55:09 -0800 Subject: [PDF] Freehand and PDF Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== I have received several pages of diagrams created using Freehand. Each diagram is a site floorplan showing different flows for our products. I'm not familiar with Freehand, but I understand that this is a single file with each different flow created as a different layer. I requested PDF of each diagram, but our creative services group can only create a PDF consisting of all the layers. Is there a way to create a PDF of the base floorplan and one additional layer? If this is not the proper forum for this question, maybe someone can point me in the right direction! Thanks, SueG __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 10-Nov-1998 23:15:36-GMT,3189;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA09830 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 16:15:31 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA11580; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 17:14:22 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 10 Nov 1998 17:11:45 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA11355; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 17:11:44 -0600 Message-ID: From: "Jessup, Samuel" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Freehand and PDF Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 15:11:56 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== This will take a little time but ask your group to make all but ONE layer printable at a time. it's really very easy, all they do is move every layer but the one you want printed below the printable bar in the layers menu. Moving them below that bar makes that layer unprintable. Then distill. Samuel Jessup, Graphics Department Manager, LFR - Southwest Region 1920 Main Street, Suite 750, Irvine, California 92614 * 949.955.1390 mailto:samuel.jessup@lfr.com http://www.lfr.com -----Original Message----- From: sgililland@nexstar.com [mailto:sgililland@nexstar.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 1998 2:55 PM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Freehand and PDF ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== I have received several pages of diagrams created using Freehand. Each diagram is a site floorplan showing different flows for our products. I'm not familiar with Freehand, but I understand that this is a single file with each different flow created as a different layer. I requested PDF of each diagram, but our creative services group can only create a PDF consisting of all the layers. Is there a way to create a PDF of the base floorplan and one additional layer? If this is not the proper forum for this question, maybe someone can point me in the right direction! Thanks, SueG __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 10-Nov-1998 23:28:56-GMT,2932;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA10187 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 16:28:55 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA12513; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 17:26:21 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 10 Nov 1998 17:23:51 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA12223; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 17:23:50 -0600 Message-ID: From: "Epps, Fred W" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] International PDF Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 15:23:39 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2407.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Have you tried making the paper size 8.26" x 11" for the minimum dimensions of each and then using the check box 'Shrink to Fit'? I do not have an A4 printer so I do not know if this will help. Fred.W.Epps@Boeing.com > ---------- > From: Margaret Becker[SMTP:marg@mcneel.com] > Reply To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Sent: Tuesday, 10 November, 1998 12:47 PM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: [PDF] International PDF > > > ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > > We have documents we distribute on the web that I would like to format so > it > can be printed on either 8 1/2 x 11 paper or European A4 paper. Is this > possible, or do I have to have two versions. I know A4 paper is longer and > narrower. The text needs to be formatted so it will fit either. I don't > care > if there is an odd white margin. My European readers get a "load letter > paper" message apparently. > > > Margaret Becker > Rhino Development Team > Robert McNeel & Associates > > marg@mcneel.com > www.mcneel.com > (206) 545-9261 > > > > __________________________________________________________ > > -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- > *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** > + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + > __________________________________________________________ > __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 10-Nov-1998 23:29:13-GMT,2705;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA10194 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 16:29:12 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA12523; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 17:26:37 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 10 Nov 1998 17:24:12 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA12284; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 17:24:10 -0600 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] International PDF Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 23:19:11 -0000 Message-ID: <000101be0d00$e2a0c260$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <007b01be0ceb$47083280$04b3b1cc@margaret2.mcneel.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > > We have documents we distribute on the web that I would like > to format so it > can be printed on either 8 1/2 x 11 paper or European A4 > paper. Is this > possible, or do I have to have two versions. I know A4 paper > is longer and > narrower. The text needs to be formatted so it will fit > either. I don't care > if there is an odd white margin. My European readers get a > "load letter > paper" message apparently. > You're distributing PDF files? And they are trying to print from Acrobat Reader? Just checking - European readers should not get that sort of message. Acrobat does NOT try and set the printer to match the paper, so it will just print to whatever size is selected, cutting pages off if they are too large. When I remember, I set a custom size of 210 mm x 11 in (210 x 280 mm). That fits within both. Or, just use sensible sized margins and things won't be cut off - about 1.25 inches around looks nice and prints OK. Aandi __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 10-Nov-1998 23:29:31-GMT,2259;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA10202 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 16:29:28 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA12524; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 17:26:39 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 10 Nov 1998 17:24:14 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA12309; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 17:24:13 -0600 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Why still 2.1 Compatibility? Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 23:21:16 -0000 Message-ID: <000201be0d00$e44d8800$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <005901be0cf6$99c894a0$150d9fcf@default> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > > Dealing with temption. > > What about pre-press use? > > > > >Nobody should EVER be turning off all compression. > >There seems to be an irrational "fear of compression". > >Don't give in to it! What about pre-press use? There is ABSOLUTELY no reason to turn off compression, pre-press or otherwise. [Except for a few hackers that want to post process the files with their own programs, I guess] That is not to say you can ignore it, but there are suitable compression settings for every use. Aandi __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 10-Nov-1998 23:29:58-GMT,1836;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA10208 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 16:29:52 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA12725; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 17:28:21 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 10 Nov 1998 17:25:38 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA12442; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 17:25:36 -0600 From: BADzign@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 18:25:17 EST To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [PDF] Freehand and PDF Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Mac sub 82 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Freehand 7.0 - Lock the layers you don't want to be a PDF and select only those items on the layer that is unlocked. Go to Export and click on Selected items only, and export as a pdf. When you open the PDF you will only see those items. Same with multiple layers. Lock the other layers and select those items on unlocked layer to export. __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 10-Nov-1998 23:54:38-GMT,1953;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA10770 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 16:54:33 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA14426; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 17:53:47 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 10 Nov 1998 17:50:16 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA14234; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 17:50:14 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19981110230149.007a4780@pop.online.de> X-Sender: 1025-56@pop.online.de X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 23:01:49 +0100 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Reinhard Jaehnig Subject: [PDF] Odd font names Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== While testing Compose on a few PDF files, I came across the following phenomenon: Document Info --> Fonts lists embedded Type 1 fonts in the document, e.g. Frutiger. Compose's Bookmark By Example function identifies font VWXYZ_Frutiger or some other odd letter combination. Where do the extra letters come from ? Has anyone else come across this font naming problem ? TIA Reinhard __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 11-Nov-1998 0:04:20-GMT,5313;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA10959 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 17:04:18 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA15055; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 18:02:00 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 10 Nov 1998 17:59:33 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA14826; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 17:59:31 -0600 Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 15:59:28 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199811102359.PAA17987@hawk.prod.itd.earthlink.net> X-Sender: fndsnd@mail.earthlink.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Michael J McGonagle Subject: RE: [PDF] pdf size problem Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== At 04:25 PM 11/9/98 -0600, you wrote: > >====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > >then redistill the file. this will force the vector graphics to convert into bmap images taking advantage of the compression settings in distiller. Jeff, where does the bitmap image of the vector graphics come from? Is it created by Exchange as the preview of the EPS? If so, why is distiller reading the preview instead of the actual PostScript? Does this happen consistently? And, is this documented any where? I seem to rememeber reading that Distiller no longer has a rasterized (the reason it does not do thumbnails), so I would think that the bitmap was created by Exchange. I would think that if there are alot of Vector graphics it might be better to export these from Illustrator (can freehand export tiff?). This would give you better control over color and it will make sure the graphic is rendered as close to what was input. Some rasterizers will not handle such things as pattern and gradients. > >hope this helps. >best regards, >jeff rochon > > > >Clay Meyer wrote: >> >>====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== >> >>I'm trying to convert a 28 page, full-color newsletter created in >>QuarkXpress 4.0 (Mac) into a PDF file. I am consistently getting an >>enormous file (27.5 Mb) that is impossible to distribute via the web. I >>have tried everything I know, using all the compression options, >>converting all the graphics/photos to 72 dpi, etc. And nothing seems to >>work. I am using the Chooser extension and do not have Acrobat >>Distiller. >> >>If any of you have any ideas on how to get the file size down, I'd >>greatly appreciate it. >>Thanks! >> >>mailto://clay@moonlight.net >> >> >>__________________________________________________________ >> >>-> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- >>*** Sponsorship & Advt. 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Dean Real World __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 11-Nov-1998 0:54:32-GMT,2988;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA12066 for ; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 17:54:31 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA18057; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 18:51:48 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 10 Nov 1998 18:48:56 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA17879; Tue, 10 Nov 1998 18:48:55 -0600 Message-ID: <3648DFD5.75D610D@kiwi.futuris.net> Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 19:52:38 -0500 From: "Robert E. Moran" Organization: Digital Constructs Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Optimizing PDF Files References: <852566B8.007B15D7.00@keybank.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id SAA17875 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Use wsftp for transfer into and out of UNIX environments. I had the same problem using ftpvoyager. HTH Bob Moran Karen_L_Mibus@keybank.com wrote: > ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > > Two not-optimized PDF files were published to our server via CuteFTP. When > I downloaded these files from our Intranet server (Netscape), placed them > on another server (NT), opened the files in Exchange, and then attempted to > optimize them, they would not optimize. Exchange starts the optimization > process, but then gets hung up and stops. This seems to indicate that both > files became corrupted somehow. > > Any ideas what may have caused this problem? > > --Karen > > __________________________________________________________ > > -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- > *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** > + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + > __________________________________________________________ -- Robert E. Moran Digital Constructs Inc. 759 North Park Avenue Redding, CT 06896 Tel 203-452-1116 203-452-8085 Fax: 203-452-0416 E-Mail remoran@dconstructs.com URL: www.dconstructs.com “Confusion is a misapprehension of a higher order” – Henry Miller __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 11-Nov-1998 9:30:57-GMT,2367;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA21699 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 02:30:56 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA10084; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 03:29:49 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 11 Nov 1998 03:26:14 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA09855; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 03:26:12 -0600 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Odd font names Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 08:52:52 -0000 Message-ID: <000801be0d54$fb764a40$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.19981110230149.007a4780@pop.online.de> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > While testing Compose on a few PDF files, I came > across the following phenomenon: > > Document Info --> Fonts lists embedded Type 1 fonts > in the document, e.g. Frutiger. > > Compose's Bookmark By Example function identifies > font VWXYZ_Frutiger or some other odd letter combination. > > Where do the extra letters come from ? Has anyone else > come across this font naming problem ? Do you mean VCYDFD+Frutiger or some such? This is quite normal. A font which has been subsetted is preceded by six random letters and "+" in order that different subsets of the same font do not interfere with one another. Aandi __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 11-Nov-1998 14:18:55-GMT,4707;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA26499 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 07:18:23 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA23177; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 08:17:34 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 11 Nov 1998 08:13:52 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA22886; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 08:13:50 -0600 Message-ID: <3647355B0000105C@mailhost.jdpub.com> (added by mailhost.jdpub.com) Date: 11 Nov 98 08:14:04 -0600 From: Jeff Rochon Subject: RE: [PDF] pdf size problem To: pdf X-Mailer: QuickMail Pro 1.5.3 (Mac) X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-Ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id IAA22882 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Reply to: RE: [PDF] pdf size problem hi michael, i have actually spent little time tracking exactly how or why this happens, but agree with your belief that exchange is responsible. somehow exporting the vector eps image from exchange must rasterize it, and would explain why distiller than sees it as a bitmap and applies compression. i have also ran into times when a COMPLICATED vector image from illustrator or freehand converted to pdf will error reader or exchange with an error message: "graphic is to complex to render". at this point the only why i have ever got it to work was to go back into the original and remove a ton of points simplifying the image or rasterize the image into a bitmap. as for which program [exchange or illustrator] would do the best job, my tests show little or no difference. i have never looked for documentation. don't have the time when i am converting so many pages from quarkxpress to pdf. over the last year i think i have reached the 100,000 page conversion mark. any insights anyone has into this matter, would be greatly appreciated. all the best, jeff rochon ============== Michael J McGonagle wrote: > >====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > >At 04:25 PM 11/9/98 -0600, you wrote: >> >>====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== >> >>then redistill the file. this will force the vector graphics to convert >into bmap images taking advantage of the compression settings in distiller. > >Jeff, > >where does the bitmap image of the vector graphics come from? Is it created >by Exchange as the preview of the EPS? If so, why is distiller reading the >preview instead of the actual PostScript? Does this happen consistently? >And, is this documented any where? > >I seem to rememeber reading that Distiller no longer has a rasterized (the >reason it does not do thumbnails), so I would think that the bitmap was >created by Exchange. > >I would think that if there are alot of Vector graphics it might be better >to export these from Illustrator (can freehand export tiff?). This would >give you better control over color and it will make sure the graphic is >rendered as close to what was input. Some rasterizers will not handle such >things as pattern and gradients. > >> >>hope this helps. >>best regards, >>jeff rochon >> >> >> >>Clay Meyer wrote: >>> >>>====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== >>> >>>I'm trying to convert a 28 page, full-color newsletter created in >>>QuarkXpress 4.0 (Mac) into a PDF file. I am consistently getting an >>>enormous file (27.5 Mb) that is impossible to distribute via the web. I >>>have tried everything I know, using all the compression options, >>>converting all the graphics/photos to 72 dpi, etc. And nothing seems to >>>work. I am using the Chooser extension and do not have Acrobat >>>Distiller. >>> >>>If any of you have any ideas on how to get the file size down, I'd >>>greatly appreciate it. >>>Thanks! >>> >>>mailto://clay@moonlight.net __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 11-Nov-1998 15:56:27-GMT,2418;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA28490 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 08:56:21 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA29591; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 09:54:54 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 11 Nov 1998 09:51:48 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA29339; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 09:51:46 -0600 Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 10:48:59 -0500 (EST) X-Sender: philvert@eos.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.19981110230149.007a4780@pop.online.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: paul hilvert Subject: Re: [PDF] Odd font names Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== I think this is the name of the embedded, subsetted font. Paul H. >====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > > >While testing Compose on a few PDF files, I came >across the following phenomenon: > >Document Info --> Fonts lists embedded Type 1 fonts >in the document, e.g. Frutiger. > >Compose's Bookmark By Example function identifies >font VWXYZ_Frutiger or some other odd letter combination. > >Where do the extra letters come from ? Has anyone else >come across this font naming problem ? > >TIA >Reinhard > > > > >__________________________________________________________ > >-> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- >*** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** >+ For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + >__________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 11-Nov-1998 16:29:46-GMT,1911;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA29247 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 09:29:45 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA31817; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 10:29:15 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 11 Nov 1998 10:26:36 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA31609; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 10:26:34 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19981111113702.00922b60@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 11:37:02 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] Why still 2.1 Compatibility? In-Reply-To: <005901be0cf6$99c894a0$150d9fcf@default> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > >What about pre-press use? > >> Lossless compression is lossless compression, no matter what it gets printed on. JPEG is not lossless, so should probably be avoided. ZIP is lossless and should be welcomed with open arms. Steve Rindsberg/Prez RDP http://www.rdpslides.com __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 11-Nov-1998 17:54:09-GMT,3864;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA01500 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 10:54:03 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA04050; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 11:53:10 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 11 Nov 1998 11:49:39 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA03813; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 11:49:37 -0600 From: sgililland@nexstar.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: NEXSTAR To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <872566B9.00623BFC.00@pigeon.nexstar.com> Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 09:50:29 -0800 Subject: RE: [PDF] International PDF Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Aandi: maybe you can shed some light on this problem - somewhat related to A4 paper and printing! I have a 60 page document created in Word that originated in our European office. Page size is set for A4 paper. I've since received the Word file electronically as an e-mail attachment and made several changes to the document. Because of its length and complexity, my first thought was to print to file and then distill. When I do this, however, distiller is not able to create the PDF. But, I can, from within Word, create PDF with PDFWriter. Printing the document is another problem. I cannot print the document to a printer with a Postscript printer driver installed. I can, however, print the document to a NON-postscript printer. Any thoughts - this is all way beyond my understanding! SueG "Aandi Inston" on 11/10/98 03:19:11 PM Please respond to pdf@lists.pdfzone.com To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com cc: (bcc: Sue Gililland/SanDimas/NeXstar) Subject: RE: [PDF] International PDF ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > > We have documents we distribute on the web that I would like > to format so it > can be printed on either 8 1/2 x 11 paper or European A4 > paper. Is this > possible, or do I have to have two versions. I know A4 paper > is longer and > narrower. The text needs to be formatted so it will fit > either. I don't care > if there is an odd white margin. My European readers get a > "load letter > paper" message apparently. > You're distributing PDF files? And they are trying to print from Acrobat Reader? Just checking - European readers should not get that sort of message. Acrobat does NOT try and set the printer to match the paper, so it will just print to whatever size is selected, cutting pages off if they are too large. When I remember, I set a custom size of 210 mm x 11 in (210 x 280 mm). That fits within both. Or, just use sensible sized margins and things won't be cut off - about 1.25 inches around looks nice and prints OK. Aandi __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 11-Nov-1998 22:03:40-GMT,2206;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA07587 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 15:03:39 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA22818; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 16:02:30 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 11 Nov 1998 15:54:30 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA22147; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 15:54:28 -0600 Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 13:54:25 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199811112154.NAA26118@swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net> X-Sender: fndsnd@mail.earthlink.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Michael J McGonagle Subject: [PDF] Getting a Pages Resoures Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== After trying to figure out how I can transfer all of a pages resources from a page in one document to a page in another document, the only means I found was by calling PDPageEnumResources. Well, I was hoping that someone might let me in on a secret if there is an easier way to get the Resources. And if there is not an easier way, could someone direct me to some examples of how to write the PDResourceEnumMonitor procedure? This is the last thing that I need to do for this program, and it has been stumping my PDFlib novice brain. Your help will be very much appreciated... Michael J McGonagle VolumeOne Chicago, Illinois __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 11-Nov-1998 23:49:59-GMT,2299;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA10198 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 16:49:58 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA30416; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 17:49:10 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 11 Nov 1998 17:45:31 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA30182; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 17:45:28 -0600 Message-Id: <199811112345.RAA30176@everglades.binc.net> Subject: [PDF] Fuzzy pictures? Date: Wed, 11 Nov 98 18:45:06 -0000 x-sender: briwasson@mail.ddaccess.com x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: Brian Wasson To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== The newspaper I work for (a monthly, tabloid-sized newsprint pub) just switched to using PDFs for our prepress. Everything went fine, except that all our photos and scanned art (i.e. graphics) doesn't look quite right...kind of "fuzzy." To me it looks like they've been compressed too much. The printer has no explanation, except to say that perhaps we sharpened them too much (we didn't). Has anyone run into this problem? Am I missing a setting in Distiller somewhere? We do pagination in QuarkXPress 3.3 (Mac), save to EPS, and use Distiller to make PDF files. The newspaper is printed web offset on newsprint. Most photos are B&W, cover and center spread are color. Any help will be greatly appreciated! Thanks, Brian Wasson Virginia Beach, VA/USA __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 12-Nov-1998 0:08:58-GMT,2731;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA10630 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 17:08:57 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA31684; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 18:08:34 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 11 Nov 1998 18:06:02 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA31507; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 18:06:00 -0600 X-Sender: prodok@pop.eunet.ch Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <007b01be0ceb$47083280$04b3b1cc@margaret2.mcneel.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 00:23:02 +0100 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Max Wyss Subject: Re: [PDF] International PDF Cc: "Margaret Becker" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Margaret, you would have two possibilities: one is to ask your users to set the printer settings to "shrink to fit". This would slightly scale down the document, so that it fits on the target paper size. The other possibility would be using a custom paper size which would be 8 by 11 inches (plus borders). This format is as short as the US letter format, and as narrow as the A4. Hope, this can help. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering AG Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Phone: +41 1 700 29 21 Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch WWW: http://www.prodok.ch/prodok Bridging the Knowledge Gap ______________________ >We have documents we distribute on the web that I would like to format so it >can be printed on either 8 1/2 x 11 paper or European A4 paper. Is this >possible, or do I have to have two versions. I know A4 paper is longer and >narrower. The text needs to be formatted so it will fit either. I don't care >if there is an odd white margin. My European readers get a "load letter >paper" message apparently. > > >Margaret Becker __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 12-Nov-1998 0:46:05-GMT,2446;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA11483 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 17:46:04 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA01019; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 18:45:49 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 11 Nov 1998 18:43:11 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA00799; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 18:43:07 -0600 Message-ID: <01BE0E18.2411C1A0@irsb.innosabah.com.my> From: Nathan Lim To: "'pdf'" Subject: [PDF] [pdf] Truncated title fields Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 08:40:38 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id SAA00784 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== When I use AdobePS4.1 to create PS files from Word95 for distilling, everything is OK until I check the title field in the PDF General Info box. The Word document name is truncated at 31 characters within the title field after conversion to PDF(note this does not happen when I use Word97). When I check the PS file, I can see the truncated document name. One fix was to edit the PS file but I don't want to have to open the PS file every time to make changes as this would involve thousands of files a day, each with a unique document name. Am I missing something in the Word95 settings or something? Thanks in advance for any help.... Nathan Lim Innosabah Securities Sdn Bhd Kota Kinabalu, Sabah, Malaysia Tele : +60 (88) 234 090 ext 6615 Fax : +60 (88) 241 992 mailto:nathan.L@innosabah.com.my http:\\www.innosabah.com.my __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 12-Nov-1998 0:53:56-GMT,3381;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA11663 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 17:53:56 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA01491; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 18:53:24 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 11 Nov 1998 18:50:37 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA01304; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 18:50:35 -0600 Message-ID: <364A31B8.527612D@kiwi.futuris.net> Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 19:54:16 -0500 From: "Robert E. Moran" Organization: Digital Constructs Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Fuzzy pictures? References: <199811112345.RAA30176@everglades.binc.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id SAA01300 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== On compression, just use the lzw option instead of JPEG in the Distiller setting. It makes the PDF's larger but the images will come out much sharper as LZW is a losseless compression scheme. HTH Bob Moran Brian Wasson wrote: > ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > > The newspaper I work for (a monthly, tabloid-sized newsprint pub) just > switched to using PDFs for our prepress. Everything went fine, except > that all our photos and scanned art (i.e. graphics) doesn't look quite > right...kind of "fuzzy." To me it looks like they've been compressed too > much. The printer has no explanation, except to say that perhaps we > sharpened them too much (we didn't). > > Has anyone run into this problem? Am I missing a setting in Distiller > somewhere? > > We do pagination in QuarkXPress 3.3 (Mac), save to EPS, and use Distiller > to make PDF files. The newspaper is printed web offset on newsprint. Most > photos are B&W, cover and center spread are color. > > Any help will be greatly appreciated! > > Thanks, > Brian Wasson > Virginia Beach, VA/USA > > __________________________________________________________ > > -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- > *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** > + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + > __________________________________________________________ -- Robert E. Moran Digital Constructs Inc. 759 North Park Avenue Redding, CT 06896 Tel 203-452-1116 203-452-8085 Fax: 203-452-0416 E-Mail remoran@dconstructs.com URL: www.dconstructs.com “Confusion is a misapprehension of a higher order” – Henry Miller __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 12-Nov-1998 2:13:41-GMT,4314;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA13279 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 19:13:39 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA05580; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 20:13:13 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 11 Nov 1998 20:09:51 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA05293; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 20:09:47 -0600 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Getting a Pages Resoures Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 01:30:28 -0000 Message-ID: <000101be0de1$2f4f9560$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <199811112154.NAA26118@swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== You would use CosDictGet to retrieve the resources object from the current Cos page object. But that isn't the end of the story, the object might be absent in the page and present in its parent, or its parent's parent. That will give you the Resources object. Then you can use CosDictPut to put it into the new page. What's missing? Well, you can't put an object from one document into another. This is where things become fraught. You need to write a series of routines which clone an object from one document to another, and copy all the descendent objects too - so enumerating dictionary, streams and arrays, and copying stream contents too. Ideally, you'd protect yourself against infinite loops, and detect when an object is already copied, to protect against bloat. This is hard work - probably several days for someone thoroughly familiar with Cos objects and their methods. But there may be a trick. You could consider copying the page into the new document; then the resources - which Acrobat has copied for you - are in the right document, ready to roll. Or almost. Resources can be a direct object, which means you can't store it into another page without checking and possibly cloning. This is a simpler clone operation, as recursion is impossible, you only need to copy direct (not indirect) descendents, and streams need not be considered. After all that, you delete the page you just inserted. Messy, and potentially expensive, but the main cost of inserting a page *is* inserting the resources, so you may not see much difference. Aandi > > After trying to figure out how I can transfer all of a pages > resources from > a page in one document to a page in another document, the > only means I found > was by calling PDPageEnumResources. > > Well, I was hoping that someone might let me in on a secret > if there is an > easier way to get the Resources. And if there is not an > easier way, could > someone direct me to some examples of how to write the > PDResourceEnumMonitor > procedure? > > This is the last thing that I need to do for this program, > and it has been > stumping my PDFlib novice brain. Your help will be very much > appreciated... > > Michael J McGonagle > VolumeOne > Chicago, Illinois > > > __________________________________________________________ > > -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- > *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** > + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + > __________________________________________________________ > __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 12-Nov-1998 2:13:42-GMT,2351;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA13283 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 19:13:40 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA05579; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 20:13:13 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 11 Nov 1998 20:09:53 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA05311; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 20:09:48 -0600 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Fuzzy pictures? Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 01:32:31 -0000 Message-ID: <000201be0de1$30d942a0$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <199811112345.RAA30176@everglades.binc.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > The newspaper I work for (a monthly, tabloid-sized newsprint > pub) just > switched to using PDFs for our prepress. Everything went fine, except > that all our photos and scanned art (i.e. graphics) doesn't > look quite > right...kind of "fuzzy." To me it looks like they've been > compressed too > much. The printer has no explanation, except to say that perhaps we > sharpened them too much (we didn't). > > Has anyone run into this problem? Am I missing a setting in Distiller > somewhere? Since you haven't told us what settings you are using, it is pretty hard to guess the answer to this! Aandi __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 12-Nov-1998 2:13:49-GMT,2741;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA13291 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 19:13:48 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA05581; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 20:13:13 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 11 Nov 1998 20:09:52 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA05333; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 20:09:50 -0600 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] International PDF Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 01:34:48 -0000 Message-ID: <000301be0de1$31f69980$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <872566B9.00623BFC.00@pigeon.nexstar.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > Aandi: maybe you can shed some light on this problem - > somewhat related to > A4 paper and printing! I have a 60 page document created in Word that > originated in our European office. Page size is set for A4 > paper. I've > since received the Word file electronically as an e-mail > attachment and > made several changes to the document. Because of its length and > complexity, my first thought was to print to file and then > distill. When I > do this, however, distiller is not able to create the PDF. Why not? What happens? Specific messages? There isn't much to go on here. > But, I can, > from within Word, create PDF with PDFWriter. Printing the document is > another problem. I cannot print the document to a printer with a > Postscript printer driver installed. Why not? What happens? > I can, however, print > the document to > a NON-postscript printer. > Any thoughts - this is all way beyond my understanding! Sorry, need more information before I can start guessing! __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 12-Nov-1998 3:20:20-GMT,2886;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA14548 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 20:20:19 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA08946; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 21:19:23 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 11 Nov 1998 21:16:11 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA08767; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 21:16:10 -0600 Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 19:16:06 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199811120316.TAA24328@goose.prod.itd.earthlink.net> X-Sender: fndsnd@mail.earthlink.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Michael J McGonagle Subject: RE: [PDF] Getting a Pages Resoures Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== >You would use CosDictGet to retrieve the resources object from >the current Cos page object. But that isn't the end of the story, >the object might be absent in the page and present in its parent, >or its parent's parent. > Aandi, you have been very helpful in you responses. After reading your response, I think that it might be better to go back to my original idea of createing a whole new page tree for the input document. It sounds like your explaination is well above my head at the moment. Effectively, I need to reorder and merge the pages of a PDF file to create a special imposition layout of the document. I have worked with PDF files by hand (typing in very simple files), so I know what I want to do will work. I just thought that it would be better to start off by createing a new document. I guess my question here is how much work is it to reshuffle/merge the pages in a PDF? Would I be better off adding my pages to the end of the input file, and then deleteing the originals? Is the issue of copying elements from one document to another discussed in an literature? This sound like a very complex issue that would warrant at least a page or two of explaination. Do you have any idea as to why two documents can't share elements? Michael J McGonagle VolumeOne Chicago, Illinois __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 12-Nov-1998 10:37:22-GMT,5863;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA23164 for ; Thu, 12 Nov 1998 03:37:21 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA28189; Thu, 12 Nov 1998 04:36:00 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 12 Nov 1998 04:31:25 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA27957; Thu, 12 Nov 1998 04:31:23 -0600 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Getting a Pages Resoures Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 10:14:14 -0000 Message-ID: <000001be0e27$4195c3c0$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <199811120316.TAA24328@goose.prod.itd.earthlink.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > Effectively, I need to reorder and merge the pages of a PDF > file to create a > special imposition layout of the document. I have worked with > PDF files by > hand (typing in very simple files), so I know what I want to > do will work. I > just thought that it would be better to start off by > createing a new document. When it comes to actually doing the imposition in PDF, there are some very nasty difficulties - and I won't be able to give many hints, I'm afraid. But re-ordering is not a big problem. It isn't giving too much away about the workings of Quite Imposing to say the first stages of making an imposition are 1. Create a new empty document (PDDocCreate) 2. Copy open document into it (PDDocInsertPages) 3. Reorder pages as necessary (PDDocMovePages) This is pretty simple and works at a high level. The links even move around when you use PDDDocMovePages. There are other advantages too. PDDocInsertPages actually scans the "from" and "to" documents for references to the same named font, and ensures that only one font object results in the final document - people would get cross if each inserted page bought its own copy of embedded fonts. (Though, apparently, subsets are not merged). > > I guess my question here is how much work is it to > reshuffle/merge the pages > in a PDF? Would I be better off adding my pages to the end of > the input > file, and then deleteing the originals? You could use PDDocMovePages on the original, and Quite Imposing does use the technique of adding pages, doing stuff with them, then deleting them. > > Is the issue of copying elements from one document to another > discussed in > an literature? This sound like a very complex issue that > would warrant at > least a page or two of explaination. This is one of several issues, like editing the objects in page streams, which comes under the blanket heading of "can be done with Cos objects", but implies you have to have a full knowledge of the PDF document structure and the way the Cos objects represent that structure. I know several commercial products have had to bite the bullet and implement both of these, but they remain as traps for the unwary - much more work than you might expect given how easy many other things are. Editing page streams, in particular, is an area that leaves many people battered and bruised, or overcommitted and embarrassed, because they assume that the high level enumeration functions that give access to page objects, text etc can simply be used to write the same objects - rather than having to parse all the tokens in the page stream and interpret them themselves. Often, I see people have painted themselves into a corner by promising that they will be able to add text to a page (not too bad, but hidden traps), or edit or recolour existing text (fiendishly hard, and I haven't really ever got that one working; if I do there is a marketable product there). For some of these the PDEdit layer, added to PDFLib, is a help, because it removes any need to know about the low-level representation. In fact, you might find that you can use PDEdit to clone objects between pages and documents, which makes many tasks a lot easier. I haven't looked into this. > Do you have any idea as to why two documents can't share elements? Well, ultimately a Cos object refers to a location on disk in a file. Allowing that object to belong to more than one file means you'd complicate the data structures substantially. And such usage would not be required by Acrobat's own functions. It's an interesting (fun?) exercise to try and write out in C a set of data structures that would make for your own implementation of Cos objects (not the code, just the structures). I agree that a better explanation of the workings of Cos objects would be nice, though little details leak out; the interaction between direct and indirect objects is subtle, and the unfixable (?) and undocumented bug where a direct object can become invalid after some time and crash Exchange if you try to use it is especially nasty to discover the hard way.... Aandi __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 12-Nov-1998 13:57:30-GMT,3165;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA26717 for ; Thu, 12 Nov 1998 06:57:29 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA05107; Thu, 12 Nov 1998 07:56:22 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 12 Nov 1998 07:53:00 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA04843; Thu, 12 Nov 1998 07:52:58 -0600 From: "MCS" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Freehand and PDF Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 07:49:17 -0600 Message-ID: <000801be0e43$3da3df60$523e5fcc@archetyp> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <872566B8.007E1D23.00@pigeon.nexstar.com> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Haven't used Freeehand but Corel has Layers also. Each layer can be visible and or printable or not so it should be possible to print all the layers from the single graphics file individually. Kevvin Jackson Triskelian Design archgetyp@mcs.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com [mailto:owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com]On Behalf Of sgililland@nexstar.com Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 1998 4:55 PM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Freehand and PDF ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== I have received several pages of diagrams created using Freehand. Each diagram is a site floorplan showing different flows for our products. I'm not familiar with Freehand, but I understand that this is a single file with each different flow created as a different layer. I requested PDF of each diagram, but our creative services group can only create a PDF consisting of all the layers. Is there a way to create a PDF of the base floorplan and one additional layer? If this is not the proper forum for this question, maybe someone can point me in the right direction! Thanks, SueG __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 12-Nov-1998 15:18:19-GMT,3642;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA28379 for ; Thu, 12 Nov 1998 08:18:09 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA10689; Thu, 12 Nov 1998 09:14:08 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 12 Nov 1998 09:11:04 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA10324; Thu, 12 Nov 1998 09:11:01 -0600 Message-Id: <199811121508.JAA01039@sys037.umb.com> X-Sender: kbb@mail.umb.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 08:22:36 -0600 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Kelly Babbit Subject: RE: [PDF] Freehand and PDF In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== There is really no need to move the layers back and forth. A far quicker and easier method would be to simply turn the layers on and off as you need to (by simply clicking on the checkmark in the layers palette). This is one of the most basic advantages to using a "layering" application; it was meant for exactly this. Make sure that in the Freehand prefrences the "print invisible layers" option is not selected and everything will work fine. Just distill and only the layers that were turned on will be visable. At 05:13 PM 11/10/1998 -0600, you wrote: > >This will take a little time but ask your group to make all but ONE >layer >printable at a time. it's really very easy, all they do is move every >layer >but the one you want printed below the printable bar in the layers menu. >Moving them below that bar makes that layer unprintable. Then distill. > >Samuel Jessup, Graphics Department Manager, LFR - Southwest Region >1920 Main Street, Suite 750, Irvine, California 92614 * 949.955.1390 >mailto:samuel.jessup@lfr.com >http://www.lfr.com >-----Original Message----- >From: sgililland@nexstar.com [mailto:sgililland@nexstar.com] >Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 1998 2:55 PM >To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com >Subject: [PDF] Freehand and PDF >====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > >I have received several pages of diagrams created using Freehand. Each >diagram is a site floorplan showing different flows for our products. >I'm >not familiar with Freehand, but I understand that this is a single file >with each different flow created as a different layer. I requested PDF >of >each diagram, but our creative services group can only create a PDF >consisting of all the layers. Is there a way to create a PDF of the >base >floorplan and one additional layer? If this is not the proper forum for >this question, maybe someone can point me in the right direction! > >Thanks, SueG > ____________________________________ Kelly Babbit Internet Services UMB Bank n.a. 816-843-2973 k_babbit@umb.com __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 12-Nov-1998 20:20:11-GMT,2763;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA06242 for ; Thu, 12 Nov 1998 13:20:06 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA02765; Thu, 12 Nov 1998 14:19:14 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 12 Nov 1998 14:14:11 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA02363; Thu, 12 Nov 1998 14:14:08 -0600 From: Karen_L_Mibus@keybank.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: KEYCORP To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <852566BA.006EC44C.00@keybank.com> Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 15:10:52 -0500 Subject: [PDF] HTML to CGI to PDF Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== I tried to send this information request to a former subscriber to this list without luck. Can anyone else address my questions about populating a PDF form with data from an HTML form via CGI? --------------- Hi, Adam Solesby: I read your responses to Tim Turner's PDFdev@Lists e-mails regarding CGI to PDF, and I'm hoping that you can help a beginning Acrobat forms designer with a special need. I need to populate three fields in a PDF file. Specifically, the file contains a letter that must be personalized with an individual's first, middle initial, and last name. If I can populate an HTML form field with these values, can the CGI script also populate the PDF file with these values without manually opening the file so that the letter is personalized before the customer downloads the PDF file? I searched Adobe's documentation and the archived lists at PDFZone, but I could not find a definitive answer. If a PDF file can be populated in such a manner without manually opening the file, can you suggest whether FDF is needed or can JavaScript perform this feat in Acrobat? Thank you very much in advance for any help you can offer. --Karen __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 12-Nov-1998 22:31:56-GMT,2519;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA09766 for ; Thu, 12 Nov 1998 15:31:43 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA11619; Thu, 12 Nov 1998 16:28:10 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 12 Nov 1998 16:19:13 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA10931; Thu, 12 Nov 1998 16:19:11 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" ; format="flowed" X-Sender: softsmrt@mail.indra.com Message-Id: Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 15:22:11 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Bart Windrum Subject: [PDF] Even/Odd printing from Acrobat? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id QAA10918 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Hello, I have a *simple* need: the ability to print only even and only odd pps from Acrobat software manuals, so I can make two-sided output on my Apple 16/600PS laserwriter. So far the only software I've run across is Quite Imposing--except that for this singular need its price is quite imposing. It is hard to believe Adobe would disable so basic a function from a document-distribution software app (but after 12 years of computer use I've long since learned that programmersŒ denseness is equal to their genius ;-)... Thanx for any help sent my way! _______________________ Bart Windrum, Soft Smart LLC Movement For Computer Terminal People (sm) Computer Users¹ Stress Relief Workshops Movement Card Decks -- Macintosh/Windows CD-Rom -- PostureBalls Train-the-Trainer Queries: Stretch@SoftSmart.com Personal : Bart@SoftSmart.com (303) or (888) 499 8120 __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 12-Nov-1998 22:53:17-GMT,3436;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA10334 for ; Thu, 12 Nov 1998 15:53:16 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA13333; Thu, 12 Nov 1998 16:52:56 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 12 Nov 1998 16:50:17 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA13134; Thu, 12 Nov 1998 16:50:10 -0600 Message-ID: <90001230CD9ED111B47F00608CF26D1E12EA7E@ARTHUR> From: Karl De Abrew To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Even/Odd printing from Acrobat? Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 09:50:22 +1100 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1459.44) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id QAA13126 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Hello Bart, You can try out an evaluation version of RTS Duplex from our website http://www.roundtable.com.au/ (click plugins and scroll down to RTS Duplex). I hope this helps. kind regards, Karl De Abrew karl@roundtable.com.au A Round Table Solution - PlanetPDF coming soon ... http://www.roundtable.com.au/ -----Original Message----- From: Bart Windrum [mailto:Bart@SoftSmart.com] Sent: Friday, 13 November 1998 9:22 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Even/Odd printing from Acrobat? ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Hello, I have a *simple* need: the ability to print only even and only odd pps from Acrobat software manuals, so I can make two-sided output on my Apple 16/600PS laserwriter. So far the only software I've run across is Quite Imposing--except that for this singular need its price is quite imposing. It is hard to believe Adobe would disable so basic a function from a document-distribution software app (but after 12 years of computer use I've long since learned that programmers? denseness is equal to their genius ;-)... Thanx for any help sent my way! _______________________ Bart Windrum, Soft Smart LLC Movement For Computer Terminal People (sm) Computer Users¹ Stress Relief Workshops Movement Card Decks -- Macintosh/Windows CD-Rom -- PostureBalls Train-the-Trainer Queries: Stretch@SoftSmart.com Personal : Bart@SoftSmart.com (303) or (888) 499 8120 __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 12-Nov-1998 23:23:42-GMT,2188;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA11259 for ; Thu, 12 Nov 1998 16:23:41 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA15530; Thu, 12 Nov 1998 17:23:17 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 12 Nov 1998 17:20:27 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA15344; Thu, 12 Nov 1998 17:20:26 -0600 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Even/Odd printing from Acrobat? Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 23:13:31 -0000 Message-ID: <028201be0e92$b1429f20$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > I have a *simple* need: the ability to print only even and > only odd pps > from Acrobat software manuals, so I can make two-sided output > on my Apple > 16/600PS laserwriter. So far the only software I've run > across is Quite > Imposing--except that for this singular need its price is > quite imposing. On Windows, see http://www.roundtable.com.au for RTSDuplex, which does it a good deal less. Aandi Inston Quite Software __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 13-Nov-1998 0:47:08-GMT,3455;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA13228 for ; Thu, 12 Nov 1998 17:47:07 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA19732; Thu, 12 Nov 1998 18:46:20 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 12 Nov 1998 18:43:10 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA19550; Thu, 12 Nov 1998 18:43:07 -0600 Message-ID: <004201be0e9e$5c7a67a0$170d9fcf@default> From: "Jim and Marguerite Ripley" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] Even/Odd printing from Acrobat? Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 16:40:53 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2120.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2120.0 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com URL: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Registration: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sponsor/Advt: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Another option is Ari's Print Helper at www.dionis.com Both APH and RTS print on my HP LJ5 at about 2 ppm although the RTS is a little slower (APH 2:45/5 pages vs. RTS 3:25/5). If I understand things correctly, RTS works with Exchange or Reader and APH works only with Exchange. I am presently evaluating both. -----Original Message----- From: Bart Windrum To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: Thursday, November 12, 1998 2:42 PM Subject: [PDF] Even/Odd printing from Acrobat? > >====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > >Hello, > >I have a *simple* need: the ability to print only even and only odd pps >from Acrobat software manuals, so I can make two-sided output on my Apple >16/600PS laserwriter. So far the only software I've run across is Quite >Imposing--except that for this singular need its price is quite imposing. > >It is hard to believe Adobe would disable so basic a function from a >document-distribution software app (but after 12 years of computer use I've >long since learned that programmersŒ denseness is equal to their genius >;-)... > >Thanx for any help sent my way! > >_______________________ >Bart Windrum, Soft Smart LLC >Movement For Computer Terminal People (sm) >Computer Users¹ Stress Relief Workshops >Movement Card Decks -- Macintosh/Windows CD-Rom -- PostureBalls >Train-the-Trainer >Queries: Stretch@SoftSmart.com >Personal : Bart@SoftSmart.com >(303) or (888) 499 8120 > >__________________________________________________________ > >-> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- >*** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** >+ For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + >__________________________________________________________ > __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ 13-Nov-1998 9:01:13-GMT,2944;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA23128 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 02:01:13 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA08412; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 02:58:03 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 13 Nov 1998 02:53:29 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA08129; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 02:53:27 -0600 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Even/Odd printing from Acrobat? In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 12 Nov 1998 15:22:11 MST." Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 08:53:19 +0000 Message-ID: <25103.910947199@isode.com> From: Chris Ridd Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Home: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Email Lists: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html List Archive: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ Help: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *Sponsor/Advt Opportunities*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com On Thu, 12 Nov 1998 15:22:11 MST, Bart Windrum wrote: > = > =3D=3D=3D=3D> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM = <=3D=3D=3D=3D > = > Hello, > = > I have a *simple* need: the ability to print only even and only odd pps= = > from Acrobat software manuals, so I can make two-sided output on my App= le = > 16/600PS laserwriter. So far the only software I've run across is Quite= = > Imposing--except that for this singular need its price is quite imposin= g. > = > It is hard to believe Adobe would disable so basic a function from a = > document-distribution software app (but after 12 years of computer use = I've = > long since learned that programmers=8C denseness is equal to their geni= us = > ;-)... > = > Thanx for any help sent my way! Some free solutions... If you can print your file as DSC-compliant PostScript, you may be able = to find a tool to print ranges of pages from that PS file. Check the = Ghostscript site (http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~ghost/) for some programs = that will do this. I think PrintFile (http://hem1.passagen.se/ptlerup/pr file.html) might do the job for you in Windows. Alternatively, use a printer driver (eg Laserwriter 8 on Macs) that can = control your printer's duplexing. Chris __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 13-Nov-1998 9:33:46-GMT,2943;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA23881 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 02:33:45 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA09957; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 03:33:08 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 13 Nov 1998 03:30:35 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA09798; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 03:30:32 -0600 Message-ID: <008401be0ee8$7b0cf1c0$a2c0a2c3@phil.customer.tvd.be> From: "Philippe Dachsbeck" To: Subject: [PDF] TrueType handling by adobe_ps & distiller on windows ... one year & a half later... not really encouraging Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 10:32:04 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Home: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Email Lists: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html List Archive: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ Help: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *Sponsor/Advt Opportunities*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com Having briefly tested the new Adobe_PS V5.01 for NT, TrueType seems a total disaster this time. Release notes mentioned even that a new distiller release will have to solve those issues: bad reencoding of text meaning no search or catalog, characters disappearing.... After all those discussions about TrueType, has somebody summarised in which ways (if any) a postscript driver used in conjunction with Distiller on Windows NT can generate PDFsearchable when the source document contains TT fonts (standard windows fonts + additional fonts); based on my own experience, this is mainly related to which version of the Postscript driver you are using. Original MS/Adobe seems to be able to handle better TrueType than later Adobe_PS release I am really surprised that this limitation has not been adressed & corrected by Adobe team since years. Do I am the only one on earth who thinks that this is a major problem for Windows users ? I dream of a world where OpenType will be the reconciliator between TrueType & Type x families... Thanks for sharing your feedback __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 13-Nov-1998 12:32:55-GMT,2687;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA26832 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 05:32:54 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA17022; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 06:29:54 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 13 Nov 1998 06:26:37 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA16843; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 06:26:35 -0600 Message-ID: <01BE0EDF.11D9E0E0.masonc@anguillanet.com> From: Chris Mason To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] TrueType handling by adobe_ps & distiller on windows ... one year & a half later... not really encouraging Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 07:44:28 -0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Home: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Email Lists: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html List Archive: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ Help: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *Sponsor/Advt Opportunities*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com Its a horrible disaster for anyone doing layout on a PC. I cannot beleive that MS cannot get truetype to work after all this time, but refuses to adopt PS font fully. Its enough to make you want a MAC. Chris > > Do I am the only one on earth who thinks that this is a major problem for > Windows users ? > > I dream of a world where OpenType will be the reconciliator between > TrueType & Type x families... > > Thanks for sharing your feedback > > > > > > __________________________________________________________________ > > PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" > > @ PDF Showcase: > __________________________________________________________________ > Chris Mason Box 340, The Valley, Anguilla, British West Indies http://net.ai Tel: 264 497 5670 Fax: 264 497 8463 IKVGwx __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 13-Nov-1998 13:01:14-GMT,2724;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA27349 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 06:01:13 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA18548; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 07:00:56 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 13 Nov 1998 06:57:54 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA18346; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 06:57:53 -0600 From: fredrik.sjogren@folksam.se (Fredrik Sjogren) To: Subject: RE: [PDF] TrueType handling by adobe_ps & distiller on windows Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 14:00:21 +0100 Message-Id: <000001be0f05$920e33d0$7332010a@n11323p.intern.folksam.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <01BE0EDF.11D9E0E0.masonc@anguillanet.com> X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Home: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Email Lists: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html List Archive: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ Help: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *Sponsor/Advt Opportunities*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com > Its a horrible disaster for anyone doing layout on a PC. I cannot beleive > that MS cannot get truetype to work after all this time, but refuses to > adopt PS font fully. Its enough to make you want a MAC. > Chris > ItŽs not MS, itŽAdobe that cant do a PS driver that handels TT-fonts. Maybe itŽs because Adobe sell PS-fonts? We have no trobles with PS-fonts in our PC environment. The problems starts when someone tries to use TT-fonts. > > > > Do I am the only one on earth who thinks that this is a major > problem for > > Windows users ? > > > > I dream of a world where OpenType will be the reconciliator between > > TrueType & Type x families... > > > > Thanks for sharing your feedback Opentype could be the solution to that problem, but i havnŽt heard a thing about Opentype this year. Someone heard any thing? __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 13-Nov-1998 13:08:04-GMT,5488;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA27486 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 06:08:03 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA18947; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 07:07:52 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 13 Nov 1998 07:05:25 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA18791; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 07:05:24 -0600 From: Laura.Dietz@arcor.net X-Lotus-FromDomain: ARCOR To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <412566BB.00478B01.00@slz-01-hub01.cni.net> Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 14:05:06 +0100 Subject: Antwort: [PDF] TrueType handling by adobe_ps & distiller on windows ... one year & a half later... not really encouraging Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/mixed; Boundary="0__=QUdU9RaBOBfuEO4eGoLV6LeS0SjO9bnfgJrhNqOOgunhazyxpEYjips8" Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Home: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Email Lists: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html List Archive: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ Help: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *Sponsor/Advt Opportunities*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com --0__=QUdU9RaBOBfuEO4eGoLV6LeS0SjO9bnfgJrhNqOOgunhazyxpEYjips8 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Einstufung: Arcor-intern Hi, I found out, that a tool (i think it was FontIncluder) was able to reen= code the textinformation and fonts of TTF. 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Release notes mentioned even that a new distiller release will have to solve those issues: bad reencoding of text meaning no search or catalog, characters disappearing.... After all those discussions about TrueType, has somebody summarised in which ways (if any) a postscript driver used in conjunction with Distiller on Windows NT can generate PDFsearchable when the source document contains TT fonts (standard windows fonts + additional fonts); based on my own experience, this is mainly related to which version of the Postscript driver you are using. Original MS/Adobe seems to be able to handle better TrueType than later Adobe_PS release I am really surprised that this limitation has not been adressed & corrected by Adobe team since years. Do I am the only one on earth who thinks that this is a major problem for Windows users ? I dream of a world where OpenType will be the reconciliator between TrueType & Type x families... Thanks for sharing your feedback __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ --0__=QUdU9RaBOBfuEO4eGoLV6LeS0SjO9bnfgJrhNqOOgunhazyxpEYjips8-- __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 13-Nov-1998 15:06:45-GMT,2113;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA29818 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 08:06:44 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA25836; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 09:06:03 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 13 Nov 1998 09:02:39 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA25622; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 09:02:37 -0600 Message-ID: <01BE0EF4.E8B66830.masonc@anguillanet.com> From: Chris Mason To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] TrueType handling by adobe_ps & distiller on windows Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 09:46:47 -0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Home: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Email Lists: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html List Archive: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ Help: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *Sponsor/Advt Opportunities*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com I'm interested to know if you use NT or windows95/98. Also, do you have any tips on using PS fonts on NT. Do you work on crossplatform projects? Thanks Chris > It?s not MS, it?Adobe that cant do a PS driver that handels TT-fonts. Maybe > it?s because Adobe sell PS-fonts? > We have no trobles with PS-fonts in our PC environment. The problems starts > when someone tries to use TT-fonts. > __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 13-Nov-1998 15:20:14-GMT,2836;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA00234 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 08:20:13 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA26713; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 09:19:47 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 13 Nov 1998 09:17:09 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA26529; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 09:17:05 -0600 From: fredrik.sjogren@folksam.se (Fredrik Sjogren) To: Subject: RE: [PDF] TrueType handling by adobe_ps & distiller on windows Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 16:19:33 +0100 Message-Id: <000601be0f19$041a8b00$7332010a@n11323p.intern.folksam.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <01BE0EF4.E8B66830.masonc@anguillanet.com> X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Home: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Email Lists: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html List Archive: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ Help: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *Sponsor/Advt Opportunities*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com > I'm interested to know if you use NT or windows95/98. > Also, do you have any tips on using PS fonts on NT. > Do you work on crossplatform projects? > Thanks > Chris We have Win NT 4 (sp3). All fonts are located on the server. We use ATM 4.0 Delux for font managment. We do not have any Macs in the network, but some of our partners do work on Mac. if our partners uses Adobe fonts there are no problems for us to continue to work whith the files in our NT environment. > > It?s not MS, it?Adobe that cant do a PS driver that handels > TT-fonts. Maybe > > it?s because Adobe sell PS-fonts? > > We have no trobles with PS-fonts in our PC environment. The > problems starts > > when someone tries to use TT-fonts. > > \\\\fred -------------------------------------------- Graphics R&D voice: +46 8 772 66 36 Folksam fax: +46 8 643 45 91 S-106 60 Stockholm Sweden -------------------------------------------- __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 13-Nov-1998 16:20:54-GMT,4397;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA01872 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 09:20:48 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA30641; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 10:20:03 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 13 Nov 1998 10:16:35 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA30392; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 10:16:33 -0600 From: "Nic Plum" To: Cc: Subject: RE: [PDF] [pdf] Truncated title fields Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 16:09:37 -0000 Message-ID: <000501be0f20$6e7cdf00$1f40dec2@demon.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.0518.4 In-Reply-To: <01BE0E18.2411C1A0@irsb.innosabah.com.my> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Home: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Email Lists: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html List Archive: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ Help: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *Sponsor/Advt Opportunities*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com The first place to look is in Word itself - even on Word 6 it is possible to place a title which is more than 31 characters long in the title field with no problems whatsoever. I's suggest you look inside Word at the File | Summary Information dialog box and see what Word itself placed in the title field. This doesn't sound like an Acrobat problem. It sounds more like Word 7 making an educated guess because the users didn't provide it with something themselves (most people don't use the File Summary Info/Document Properties capabilities of Word). Cheers. Nic _____________________________________________________________________ Buckden, < www.nplum.demon.co.uk/temptin/ > Huntingdon, For information management and Cambs, Adobe Acrobat integration from UK. within your favourite PE18 9SZ wordprocessor Fax: National 0870 0547328 International +44 870 0547328 _____________________________________________________________________ -----Original Message----- From: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com [mailto:owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com]On Behalf Of Nathan Lim Sent: 12 November 1998 00:41 To: 'pdf' Subject: [PDF] [pdf] Truncated title fields ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== When I use AdobePS4.1 to create PS files from Word95 for distilling, everything is OK until I check the title field in the PDF General Info box. The Word document name is truncated at 31 characters within the title field after conversion to PDF(note this does not happen when I use Word97). When I check the PS file, I can see the truncated document name. One fix was to edit the PS file but I don't want to have to open the PS file every time to make changes as this would involve thousands of files a day, each with a unique document name. Am I missing something in the Word95 settings or something? Thanks in advance for any help.... Nathan Lim Innosabah Securities Sdn Bhd Kota Kinabalu, Sabah, Malaysia Tele : +60 (88) 234 090 ext 6615 Fax : +60 (88) 241 992 mailto:nathan.L@innosabah.com.my http:\\www.innosabah.com.my __________________________________________________________ -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + __________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 13-Nov-1998 16:21:38-GMT,3926;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA01886 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 09:21:24 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA30712; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 10:21:03 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 13 Nov 1998 10:18:32 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA30537; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 10:18:30 -0600 Message-ID: <812683BD972BD111B9AA00805F956EE373956A@tac-nt-exch3.russell.com> From: "Keith, Derek (IMB_Technology)" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] HTML to CGI to PDF Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 08:13:44 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Home: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Email Lists: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html List Archive: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ Help: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *Sponsor/Advt Opportunities*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com Karen, I'm not a developer, but I know of a company that does something similar. Take a look at their demo: http://www.audienceone.com/Scripts/hsrun.exe/webapps/NauticalBank/Presenter. htx;start=FirstTime We used them on a form project earlier this year when they were owned by Adobe. +Derek > ---------- > From: Karen_L_Mibus@keybank.com[SMTP:Karen_L_Mibus@keybank.com] > Reply To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Sent: Thursday, November 12, 1998 12:10 PM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: [PDF] HTML to CGI to PDF > > > ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > > > I tried to send this information request to a former subscriber to > this list without luck. Can anyone else address my questions about > populating a PDF form with data from an HTML form via CGI? > > --------------- > Hi, Adam Solesby: > I read your responses to Tim Turner's PDFdev@Lists e-mails regarding > CGI to PDF, and I'm hoping that you can help a beginning Acrobat > forms designer with a special need. I need to populate three fields > in a PDF file. Specifically, the file contains a letter that must > be > personalized with an individual's first, middle initial, and last > name. If I can populate an HTML form field with these values, can > the CGI script also populate the PDF file with these values without > manually opening the file so that the letter is personalized before > the customer downloads the PDF file? > > I searched Adobe's documentation and the archived lists at PDFZone, > but I could not find a definitive answer. If a PDF file can be > populated in such a manner without manually opening the file, can > you > suggest whether FDF is needed or can JavaScript perform this feat in > Acrobat? > > Thank you very much in advance for any help you can offer. > > --Karen > > > > __________________________________________________________ > > -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- > *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** > + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + > __________________________________________________________ > __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 13-Nov-1998 16:55:47-GMT,4947;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA02854 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 09:55:38 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA00339; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 10:55:15 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 13 Nov 1998 10:52:18 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA00059; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 10:52:16 -0600 X-Sender: mmadenwa@seattle Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <812683BD972BD111B9AA00805F956EE373956A@tac-nt-exch3.russell.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 08:54:20 -0800 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Marc Madenwald Subject: RE: [PDF] HTML to CGI to PDF Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Home: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Email Lists: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html List Archive: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ Help: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *Sponsor/Advt Opportunities*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com Karen, For techncial information about using forms with PDF files check out the Forms Data Format Toolkit located at: http://beta1.adobe.com/ada/acrosdk/forms.html Best Regards, Marc >Email Lists: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html >List Archive: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ >Help: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com >*Sponsor/Advt Opportunities*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com > > > > >Karen, > >I'm not a developer, but I know of a company that does something similar. >Take a look at their demo: > >http://www.audienceone.com/Scripts/hsrun.exe/webapps/NauticalBank/Presenter. >htx;start=FirstTime > >We used them on a form project earlier this year when they were owned by >Adobe. > >+Derek > >> ---------- >> From: Karen_L_Mibus@keybank.com[SMTP:Karen_L_Mibus@keybank.com] >> Reply To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com >> Sent: Thursday, November 12, 1998 12:10 PM >> To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com >> Subject: [PDF] HTML to CGI to PDF >> >> >> ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== >> >> >> I tried to send this information request to a former subscriber to >> this list without luck. Can anyone else address my questions about >> populating a PDF form with data from an HTML form via CGI? >> >> --------------- >> Hi, Adam Solesby: >> I read your responses to Tim Turner's PDFdev@Lists e-mails regarding >> CGI to PDF, and I'm hoping that you can help a beginning Acrobat >> forms designer with a special need. I need to populate three fields >> in a PDF file. Specifically, the file contains a letter that must >> be >> personalized with an individual's first, middle initial, and last >> name. If I can populate an HTML form field with these values, can >> the CGI script also populate the PDF file with these values without >> manually opening the file so that the letter is personalized before >> the customer downloads the PDF file? >> >> I searched Adobe's documentation and the archived lists at PDFZone, >> but I could not find a definitive answer. If a PDF file can be >> populated in such a manner without manually opening the file, can >> you >> suggest whether FDF is needed or can JavaScript perform this feat in >> Acrobat? >> >> Thank you very much in advance for any help you can offer. >> >> --Karen >> >> >> >> __________________________________________________________ >> >> -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- >> *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** >> + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + >> __________________________________________________________ >> > >__________________________________________________________________ > >PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" > >@ PDF Showcase: >__________________________________________________________________ Look for answers to the top Acrobat Issues at: http://www.adobe.com/supportservice/custsupport/SOLUTIONS/topissuesac.htm __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 13-Nov-1998 17:11:46-GMT,1832;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA03296 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 10:11:45 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA01518; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 11:11:00 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 13 Nov 1998 11:08:15 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA01221; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 11:08:11 -0600 Message-ID: <364C59AD.1F11FA54@bongarde.com> Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 09:09:20 -0700 From: denis X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.07 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] pdf-digest References: <199811121511.JAA10342@everglades.binc.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Home: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Email Lists: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html List Archive: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ Help: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *Sponsor/Advt Opportunities*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com Sorry: I just read the instructions - I will change the eMail to denis@bongarde.com - as per your instructions. __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 13-Nov-1998 17:45:18-GMT,2448;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA04144 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 10:45:13 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA03688; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 11:44:23 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 13 Nov 1998 11:40:50 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA03438; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 11:40:48 -0600 X-Sender: tm@193.174.4.1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.1 Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 18:39:29 +0100 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Thomas Merz Subject: [PDF] Print fields in Word 97 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Message-Id: <98Nov13.184032met.140559-1@colin.muc.de> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Home: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Email Lists: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html List Archive: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ Help: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *Sponsor/Advt Opportunities*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com As many of you know, in my pdfmark primer I not only tried to give a hands-on tutorial of pdfmark programming, but also explained several means of actually inserting pdfmark code into the PostScript output. For Microsoft Word I suggested inserting pdfmark code within Word's print fields (the content of these fields gets inserted in the PostScript output stream). However, I realized that while this technique works well with Word 95, it doesn't work at all with Word 97. In fact, the contents of the print field seem to be totally ignored by Word 97. Does anybody know what's going on, or has a solution? Thomas _______________________________________________________________ Thomas Merz, Munich tm@muc.de http://www.ifconnection.de/~tm -- pdfmark Primer -- PDFlib -- Ghostscript manual -- jpeg2ps -- __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 13-Nov-1998 18:07:58-GMT,2352;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA04781 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 11:07:56 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA05232; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 12:06:57 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 13 Nov 1998 12:04:23 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA05068; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 12:04:22 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19981113131447.00927580@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 13:14:47 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: RE: [PDF] TrueType handling by adobe_ps & distiller on windows ... one year & a half later... not really encouraging In-Reply-To: <01BE0EDF.11D9E0E0.masonc@anguillanet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Home: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Email Lists: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html List Archive: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ Help: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *Sponsor/Advt Opportunities*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com > >Its a horrible disaster for anyone doing layout on a PC. I cannot beleive >that MS cannot get truetype to work after all this time, but refuses to >adopt PS font fully. Its enough to make you want a MAC. A Mac? One of those things that comes from the factory with TT versions of all the standard LaserWriter fonts pre-installed where they can confuse bloody hell out of Exchange and Reader? A *different* dumb setup isn't necessarily a *better* dumb setup than the one we have. ;-) Steve Rindsberg/Prez RDP http://www.rdpslides.com __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 13-Nov-1998 18:15:04-GMT,3187;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA04925 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 11:15:02 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA05748; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 12:14:40 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 13 Nov 1998 12:12:14 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA05580; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 12:12:13 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19981113132235.009242e0@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 13:22:35 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] Print fields in Word 97 In-Reply-To: <98Nov13.184032met.140559-1@colin.muc.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Home: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Email Lists: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html List Archive: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ Help: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *Sponsor/Advt Opportunities*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com > >As many of you know, in my pdfmark primer I not only tried to >give a hands-on tutorial of pdfmark programming, but also >explained several means of actually inserting pdfmark code >into the PostScript output. For Microsoft Word I suggested >inserting pdfmark code within Word's print fields (the content >of these fields gets inserted in the PostScript output stream). However, >I realized that while this technique works well with Word 95, >it doesn't work at all with Word 97. In fact, the contents of >the print field seem to be totally ignored by Word 97. Does anybody >know what's going on, or has a solution? > I've never tried uing print fields in either version. Instead, after reading the Adobe docs and yours, I created little hand-made EPS files based on your examples and inserted those as graphics in e.g. footers. It seems to work well. I also was able to create a kind of navigation bar in the footer by - Create the entire graphic in Corel Draw - Import the handmade PDFMark EPS files that will eventually create the links, position and scale them atop the graphic where I want the hot area of the links to be, then send them back behind the graphic - Export the whole works, Draw graphic and PDFMark EPS to EPS with a tiff preview - Insert that into the Word footer and create PDF I realize that this is a very limited, special case and not as flexible as print fields might be. Steve Rindsberg/Prez RDP http://www.rdpslides.com __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 13-Nov-1998 19:02:07-GMT,1987;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA06268 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 12:01:53 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA08381; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 13:00:57 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 13 Nov 1998 12:58:05 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA08133; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 12:58:00 -0600 Message-ID: <97F39596DEEECF11BC020000C09361E563DE33@mv_exchange_2.mv.unisys.com> From: "Teague, Tommy K" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] Print fields in Word 97 Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 10:56:54 -0800 Importance: high X-Priority: 1 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Home: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Email Lists: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html List Archive: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ Help: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *Sponsor/Advt Opportunities*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com There is a new option in Word 97 that has to be set so that Word will generate the correct coordinates within Print fields. Under Tools > Options, select the Compatibility tab. Make sure that you have the option "Use printer metrics to lay out document" checked. Tommy Teague Unisys Corporation __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 13-Nov-1998 19:19:57-GMT,3885;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA06763 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 12:19:56 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA09519; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 13:19:25 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 13 Nov 1998 13:16:40 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA09304; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 13:16:39 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19981113142705.0092a4a0@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 14:27:05 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] Print fields in Word 97 In-Reply-To: <98Nov13.184032met.140559-1@colin.muc.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Home: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Email Lists: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html List Archive: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ Help: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *Sponsor/Advt Opportunities*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com >As many of you know, in my pdfmark primer I not only tried to >give a hands-on tutorial of pdfmark programming, but also >explained several means of actually inserting pdfmark code >into the PostScript output. For Microsoft Word I suggested >inserting pdfmark code within Word's print fields (the content >of these fields gets inserted in the PostScript output stream). However, >I realized that while this technique works well with Word 95, >it doesn't work at all with Word 97. In fact, the contents of >the print field seem to be totally ignored by Word 97. Does anybody >know what's going on, or has a solution? > Me again. Check Word's Help, the Index tab and enter "field" (no quotes) then scroll to the "printing" sub-entry under "Fields". There are three help pages that seem to explain how to do it. I inserted a print field, Word supplied "PRINT" in the editbox. I added after this: \p page "" View codes (Alt-F9) shows that Word actually inserts: {PRINT \p page ""\*MERGEFORMAT} Printed this to PostScript, Distilled and got a link with a hotspot of about 1" square in the lower left corner of the page. This seems reasonable, since it appears that the "\p page" says "put this link in relative to the page, beginning at the normal PS default 0,0 point" and as it happens, my pdfmark code specified /Rect 0 0 72 72. So ... what's different here from your book? It's unclear from your book exactly what your version of Word supplies in the edit box and what the user is expected to type manually, but in Word97: PRINT is specified all in caps and provided by Word in the edit box. I didn't have to type the curly braces myself. Word supplies them itself and shows them in view codes mode. I *did* supply the /p page instruction myself (though it appears that Word will insert it for you if you click Options and choose that instruction.) I noticed that if I tried to use wp$box pathbbox, the link DOES disappear. I haven't had time to sort out what's happening in the PS, but that's something you might want to look at. Steve Rindsberg/Prez RDP http://www.rdpslides.com __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 13-Nov-1998 19:23:28-GMT,2220;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA06852 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 12:23:22 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA09754; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 13:22:48 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 13 Nov 1998 13:20:18 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA09639; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 13:20:17 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19981113143033.0092fd30@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 14:30:33 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: RE: [PDF] Print fields in Word 97 In-Reply-To: <97F39596DEEECF11BC020000C09361E563DE33@mv_exchange_2.mv.un isys.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Home: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Email Lists: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html List Archive: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ Help: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *Sponsor/Advt Opportunities*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com >There is a new option in Word 97 that has to be set so that Word will >generate the correct coordinates within Print fields. > >Under Tools > Options, select the Compatibility tab. Make sure that you >have the option "Use printer metrics to lay out document" checked. > What timing! I was sitting here with Word open, scratching my head over this. Changed that option, and voila, we have links. Thanks! Steve Rindsberg/Prez RDP http://www.rdpslides.com __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 13-Nov-1998 20:22:18-GMT,3531;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA08304 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 13:22:17 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA13532; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 14:20:53 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 13 Nov 1998 14:17:30 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA13227; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 14:17:27 -0600 Message-Id: <199811132017.MAA14078@crane.prod.itd.earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.0c (197) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 12:18:12 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] TrueType handling by adobe_ps & distiller on windows From: "C. Scott Miller" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id OAA13223 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Home: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Email Lists: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html List Archive: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ Help: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *Sponsor/Advt Opportunities*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com >> Its a horrible disaster for anyone doing layout on a PC. I cannot beleive >> that MS cannot get truetype to work after all this time, but refuses to >> adopt PS font fully. Its enough to make you want a MAC. >> Chris >> > >ItŽs not MS, itŽAdobe that cant do a PS driver that handels TT-fonts. Maybe >itŽs because Adobe sell PS-fonts? >We have no trobles with PS-fonts in our PC environment. The problems starts >when someone tries to use TT-fonts. I am always a little concerned when I see some FUD ("Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt" - http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Hills/9267/fuddef.html) in this user list. When it comes to affixing blame between Adobe or Microsoft I think you have to at least be VERY suspicious of Microsoft. They actively "de-commoditize protocols" right and left in order to control every market they have expressed an interest in. They have their sights set on the digital Publishing market - reference Steve Ballmer's keynote address at Seybold SF where he said as much while not mentioning PDF once. These guys are not into allowing rogue standards (i.e., standards they don't own) like PDF to run successfully on their operating system - at least not over the long haul. For a little insight on their "de-commoditizing protocol" tactic, I suggest looking at http://www.opensource.org/halloween1.html. You get the feeling this stuff (and FUD) is mother's milk to them. I think the DOJ/MS antitrust exercise is important to the future of PDF. C. Scott Miller PDF R_e_s_e_a_r_c_h__C_o_m_p_a_n_i_o_n A Designer's Guide to Adobe's Portable Document Format http://www.performancegraphics.com a production of Performance Graphics millercs@performancegraphics.com __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 13-Nov-1998 22:43:19-GMT,3858;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA12428 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 15:43:18 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA23192; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 16:42:40 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 13 Nov 1998 16:35:06 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAB22685; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 16:35:01 -0600 Message-ID: <00f301be0f55$2d3d9540$5b7ce8c3@jonathan> From: "Jonathan West" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] Print fields in Word 97 Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 20:51:01 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Home: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Email Lists: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html List Archive: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ Help: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *Sponsor/Advt Opportunities*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com Hi Thomas, There is a known bug in Word 97, in that PRINT fields get ignored when running under Windows NT4. It is fixed in Service Release 1 (SR-1) which you can download from the MS web site. To get details of the SR-1 and SR-2 updates, have a look at http://officeupdate.microsoft.com/Articles/sr2fact.htm. Regards Jonathan West Multilinker - Automated generation of hyperlinks in Word Conversion to PDF & HTML http://www.multilinker.com -----Original Message----- From: Thomas Merz To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: 13 November 1998 17:48 Subject: [PDF] Print fields in Word 97 >Email Lists: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html >List Archive: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ >Help: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com >*Sponsor/Advt Opportunities*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com > > > > >As many of you know, in my pdfmark primer I not only tried to >give a hands-on tutorial of pdfmark programming, but also >explained several means of actually inserting pdfmark code >into the PostScript output. For Microsoft Word I suggested >inserting pdfmark code within Word's print fields (the content >of these fields gets inserted in the PostScript output stream). However, >I realized that while this technique works well with Word 95, >it doesn't work at all with Word 97. In fact, the contents of >the print field seem to be totally ignored by Word 97. Does anybody >know what's going on, or has a solution? > >Thomas > > > >_______________________________________________________________ >Thomas Merz, Munich tm@muc.de http://www.ifconnection.de/~tm >-- pdfmark Primer -- PDFlib -- Ghostscript manual -- jpeg2ps -- > >__________________________________________________________________ > >PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" > >@ PDF Showcase: >__________________________________________________________________ > > __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 13-Nov-1998 22:43:45-GMT,2469;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA12438 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 15:43:44 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA23244; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 16:43:32 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 13 Nov 1998 16:39:44 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA22970; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 16:39:43 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19981112195515.007b4100@pop.online.de> X-Sender: 1025-56@pop.online.de X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 19:55:15 +0100 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Reinhard Jaehnig Subject: RE: [PDF] Odd font names In-Reply-To: <000801be0d54$fb764a40$0101c6c0@gateway> References: <3.0.6.32.19981110230149.007a4780@pop.online.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Home: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Email Lists: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html List Archive: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ Help: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *Sponsor/Advt Opportunities*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com >This is quite normal. A font which has been subsetted is >preceded by six random letters and "+" in order that different >subsets of the same font do not interfere with one another. Thanks Aandi, Is the following assumption correct ? I create a PDF file embedding a subset of Frutiger on my PC. Acrobat renames Frutiger font to e.g VCYDFD+Frutiger. I try to edit the generated PDF file using Touch Type. Acrobat tells me I cannot edit the file because there's a subsetted font in the PDF file (meaning VCYDFD+Frutiger) that is not installed on my machine. Or is Acrobat supposed to preserve some kind of link that VCYDFD+Frutiger is really the same thing as Frutiger. Reinhard __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 13-Nov-1998 23:17:47-GMT,3153;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA13345 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 16:17:46 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA25381; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 17:17:19 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 13 Nov 1998 17:13:12 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA25056; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 17:13:08 -0600 X-Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated X-Division: Core Technology X-Department: Product Interoperability Analysis X-URL: Message-Id: <4.1.19981113150854.00c338a0@mail-303> X-Sender: isaacs@mail-303 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 15:12:08 -0800 To: Reinhard Jaehnig From: Dov Isaacs Subject: RE: [PDF] Odd font names Cc: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.19981112195515.007b4100@pop.online.de> References: <000801be0d54$fb764a40$0101c6c0@gateway> <3.0.6.32.19981110230149.007a4780@pop.online.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Home: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Email Lists: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html List Archive: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ Help: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *Sponsor/Advt Opportunities*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com At 11/12/98 10:55 AM , Reinhard Jaehnig wrote: > >>This is quite normal. A font which has been subsetted is >>preceded by six random letters and "+" in order that different >>subsets of the same font do not interfere with one another. > >Thanks Aandi, > >Is the following assumption correct ? > >I create a PDF file embedding a subset of Frutiger on my PC. >Acrobat renames Frutiger font to e.g VCYDFD+Frutiger. >I try to edit the generated PDF file using Touch Type. > >Acrobat tells me I cannot edit the file because there's a >subsetted font in the PDF file (meaning VCYDFD+Frutiger) >that is not installed on my machine. > >Or is Acrobat supposed to preserve some kind of link that >VCYDFD+Frutiger is really the same thing as Frutiger. > >Reinhard No, Acrobat doesn't preserve a link, but the problem gets even worse. If you use the AdobePS 4.x drivers that subset Type 1 fonts based on the glyphs actually accessed in the PostScript file, the resultant PDF file doesn't have these funny names. Touch up is allowed, but you may not be able to access the characters you need if they weren't actually used elsewhere in the document! - Dov __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 13-Nov-1998 23:18:36-GMT,3437;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA13377 for ; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 16:18:35 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA25467; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 17:18:23 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 13 Nov 1998 17:14:33 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA25165; Fri, 13 Nov 1998 17:14:32 -0600 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Odd font names Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 23:07:26 -0000 Message-ID: <000e01be0f5b$08630420$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.19981112195515.007b4100@pop.online.de> X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Home: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Email Lists: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html List Archive: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ Help: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *Sponsor/Advt Opportunities*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com > >This is quite normal. A font which has been subsetted is > >preceded by six random letters and "+" in order that different > >subsets of the same font do not interfere with one another. > > Thanks Aandi, > > Is the following assumption correct ? > > I create a PDF file embedding a subset of Frutiger on my PC. > Acrobat renames Frutiger font to e.g VCYDFD+Frutiger. > I try to edit the generated PDF file using Touch Type. > > Acrobat tells me I cannot edit the file because there's a > subsetted font in the PDF file (meaning VCYDFD+Frutiger) > that is not installed on my machine. > > Or is Acrobat supposed to preserve some kind of link that > VCYDFD+Frutiger is really the same thing as Frutiger. The rule is: if you want to edit, don't embed a subset. The reasoning is: if a font is subsetted parts of it are missing. If the only word in the font is QUITE and you want to change it to QUOTE, you can't, there is no "O" anywhere to be found. So, no editing with a subset. Pitstop, I believe, allows you to edit text in an embedded subset if you must; of course you will have a hole if you use a missing character. Acrobat could do better. But Exchange is limited because it cannot embed a font. It doesn't have that capability. So, the only real choice is to-embed the font. And now...yes, now is when Acrobat could perhaps spot that ABCDEF+Frutiger is really Frutiger. Still, the rule remains: don't subset if you want to edit. If you consider that Touch Up was only designed to allow OCR corrections, not as a handy general purpose editing tool, it does fairly well. Aandi __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 15-Nov-1998 15:42:29-GMT,4054;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA25378 for ; Sun, 15 Nov 1998 08:42:28 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA22290; Sun, 15 Nov 1998 09:41:17 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 15 Nov 1998 09:31:38 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA21586; Sun, 15 Nov 1998 09:31:35 -0600 Message-ID: <364EF461.532287C3@wanadoo.fr> Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1998 16:33:53 +0100 From: Michel Lausseur Organization: AAlto Consultant X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [fr] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Combine PDF files References: <001601be09b6$f6e2a920$3e3ea8c0@davec.docctrl.com> <3644A0F8.589A0917@pobox.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Home: PDFzone.COM 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Email Lists: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html List Archive: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ Help: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *Sponsor/Advt Opportunities*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com Ramon, Your problem « Combine PDF files » discussed last week recalls me the problem I encountered two years ago, when we had to compose a unique PDF document, from about 2,000 individual PDF pages. We developed a plugin based on a loop « insert page » ; the results gave following exponential figures (hr :mn :sec): - 100 pages: 00 :00 :35 - 200 pages : 00 :01 :13 - 300 pages : 00 :02 :05 - 400 pages : 00 :04 :15 - 500 pages : 00 :11 :00 - 600 pages : 00 :13 :30 - 700 pages : 00 :19 :30 - 800 pages : 00 :32 :50 - 878 pages : 00 :55 :00 - 905 pages : 01 :10 :00 - 914 pages : 01 :36 :00 ... we didn’t insist beyond this limit. Then we made a more sophisticated plugin, which first assembled sub-units (about 400 pages) to be saved separetely, then to be integrated into the final document. The results was quite acceptable (about 30 mn). This prototype was built for Acrobat 2.1 ; as the prospect didn’t follow this way (not because we are bad, indeed for other reasons), we didn’t adapt our plugin, so I don’t know if Acrobat 3.0 has improved this process. I don’t think so, because I understand that iterative dynamic appending can cause increasing overloading in memory, while « saving as ... » reorganise the PDF file. Regards Michel Lausseur Aalto Consultant Ramon Mellado Villarreal a écrit: > ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > > We are processing a bunch of TIF files to PDF using Capture. To keep the > processing smooth we process every page of a document separately and then use > Compose (or Exchange itself) to merge the individual PDFs. This works OK, but > there is a catch... > > It is taking us a VERY long time to combine documents with more than, say, 50 > pages. We have tried documents with 300 or even 1000, but it is impractical if > not impossible. > > Are we doing something wrong? Why does it take so long? Is there a faster > way? Has anyone better software for this use? > > Thanks in advance. > > __________________________________________________________ > > -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- > *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** > + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + > __________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 15-Nov-1998 16:26:53-GMT,3230;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA26093 for ; Sun, 15 Nov 1998 09:26:52 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA24824; Sun, 15 Nov 1998 10:26:24 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 15 Nov 1998 10:22:30 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA24589; Sun, 15 Nov 1998 10:22:29 -0600 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Combine PDF files Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1998 16:13:02 -0000 Message-ID: <000001be10b3$ce964ea0$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <364EF461.532287C3@wanadoo.fr> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Home: PDFzone.COM 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Email Lists: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html List Archive: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ Help: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *Sponsor/Advt Opportunities*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com > We developed a plugin based on a loop « insert page » ; the > results gave following > exponential figures (hr :mn :sec): > - 100 pages: 00 :00 :35 > - 200 pages : 00 :01 :13 > - 300 pages : 00 :02 :05 > - 400 pages : 00 :04 :15 > - 500 pages : 00 :11 :00 > - 600 pages : 00 :13 :30 > - 700 pages : 00 :19 :30 > - 800 pages : 00 :32 :50 > - 878 pages : 00 :55 :00 > - 905 pages : 01 :10 :00 > - 914 pages : 01 :36 :00 ... we didn’t insist beyond this limit. I can see why this would happen. Insert Page performs certain complete scans of the target document and source pages. The one I know of is a scan of both to discover what fonts exist in both documents, and thereby avoid duplicating them. There is no central list of "fonts used", so it is necessary to scan the resource dictionaries of every page. It seems, then the time taken to insert m pages into a document of n pages is O(m+n), and if the pages are added one at a time, the time taken to add n pages is O(n**2). Your figures are even worse than this, but probably result from overflowing memory caches and starting to perform I/O instead, somewhere between 300-600 pages in your case. You may find that specialised tools to do multiple insertions can win here, by only having to do a single resource scan for a complete batch. AppendPDF (www.digapp.com) springs to mind, as it is a specialised tool not using Acrobat. Aandi __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 15-Nov-1998 20:12:39-GMT,2344;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA00047 for ; Sun, 15 Nov 1998 13:12:38 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA03373; Sun, 15 Nov 1998 14:12:02 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 15 Nov 1998 14:06:52 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA03100; Sun, 15 Nov 1998 14:06:50 -0600 X-Sender: tm@193.174.4.1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.1 Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1998 21:02:21 +0100 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Thomas Merz Subject: [PDF] Bingo: Print fields in Word 97 -- need SR-1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Message-Id: <98Nov15.210629met.140559-3@colin.muc.de> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Home: PDFzone.COM 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Email Lists: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html List Archive: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ Help: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *Sponsor/Advt Opportunities*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com "Jonathan West" wrote: > >There is a known bug in Word 97, in that PRINT fields get ignored when >running under Windows NT4. It is fixed in Service Release 1 (SR-1) which you >can download from the MS web site. To get details of the SR-1 and SR-2 >updates, have a look at >http://officeupdate.microsoft.com/Articles/sr2fact.htm. Bingo: Service Release 1 seems to fix the problem! I will include a note in the pdfmark primer. Thanks for sharing the information, Thomas _______________________________________________________________ Thomas Merz, Munich tm@muc.de http://www.ifconnection.de/~tm -- pdfmark Primer -- PDFlib -- Ghostscript manual -- jpeg2ps -- __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 15-Nov-1998 20:22:20-GMT,1989;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA00273 for ; Sun, 15 Nov 1998 13:22:19 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA03959; Sun, 15 Nov 1998 14:22:07 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 15 Nov 1998 14:18:15 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA03694; Sun, 15 Nov 1998 14:18:11 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19981115190341.007afc30@pop.online.de> X-Sender: 1025-56@pop.online.de X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1998 19:03:41 +0100 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Reinhard Jaehnig Subject: [PDF] Acrobat Reader and Search Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Home: PDFzone.COM 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Email Lists: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html List Archive: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ Help: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *Sponsor/Advt Opportunities*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com Can Acrobat Reader + Search be distributed freely ? If so, what is the best way of distributing the Search API for all those that have already installed the Reader ? Is there another way besides telling them, remove your present version of the Reader and then install the Reader + Search ? TIA Reinhard Jaehnig __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 15-Nov-1998 22:32:44-GMT,2446;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA02518 for ; Sun, 15 Nov 1998 15:32:43 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA10012; Sun, 15 Nov 1998 16:32:00 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 15 Nov 1998 16:26:36 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA09685; Sun, 15 Nov 1998 16:26:34 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19981115232143.007bebd0@pop.online.de> X-Sender: 1025-56@pop.online.de X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1998 23:21:43 +0100 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Reinhard Jaehnig Subject: RE: [PDF] Odd font names In-Reply-To: <000e01be0f5b$08630420$0101c6c0@gateway> References: <3.0.6.32.19981112195515.007b4100@pop.online.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Home: PDFzone.COM 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Email Lists: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html List Archive: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ Help: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *Sponsor/Advt Opportunities*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com Thanks, Aandi, for your reply. You wrote: >The reasoning is: if a font is subsetted parts of it are missing. >If the only word in the font is QUITE and you want to change it >to QUOTE, you can't, there is no "O" anywhere to be found. So, >no editing with a subset. I do not have a problem with your example: If there is no "O" of the same font in my file, I can not change QUITE to QUOTE. What I do NOT understand is: Why wouldn't Exchange let me change QUITE to QUIT ? And why doesn't Exchange tell me "I cannot edit because the file contains a subsetted font ." Why does it add "... that is not installed on my machine" ? Poor Design ? Reinhard __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 15-Nov-1998 23:28:04-GMT,2320;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA03472 for ; Sun, 15 Nov 1998 16:28:03 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA12581; Sun, 15 Nov 1998 17:27:17 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 15 Nov 1998 17:23:13 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA12332; Sun, 15 Nov 1998 17:23:09 -0600 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Acrobat Reader and Search Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1998 21:14:42 -0000 Message-ID: <000201be10ee$91b3e7a0$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.19981115190341.007afc30@pop.online.de> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Home: PDFzone.COM 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Email Lists: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html List Archive: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ Help: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *Sponsor/Advt Opportunities*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com > Can Acrobat Reader + Search be distributed freely ? Yes. > > If so, what is the best way of distributing the > Search API for all those that have already installed > the Reader ? Is there another way besides telling > them, remove your present version of the Reader > and then install the Reader + Search ? No. You MUST NOT distribute the separate parts of the installer or the search plug-in separately, that is forbidden by the redistribution license. Aandi __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 15-Nov-1998 23:46:27-GMT,3087;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA03762 for ; Sun, 15 Nov 1998 16:46:26 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA13576; Sun, 15 Nov 1998 17:45:54 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 15 Nov 1998 17:41:25 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA13287; Sun, 15 Nov 1998 17:41:24 -0600 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1998 15:34:50 +0000 Subject: [PDF] Survey concerning PDF users Message-ID: <19981115.153452.3438.1.dcmah@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 1.49 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 4-15,17-18,22-24 From: dcmah@juno.com (Dennis C Lee) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Home: PDFzone.COM 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Email Lists: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html List Archive: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ Help: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *Sponsor/Advt Opportunities*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com There was a recent survey, done on the programmer-oriented, interactive website www.slashdot.org ("News for Nerds" is their slogan; much of their audience includes Unix users and Windows haters), asking readers to pick which format they preferred to read books/articles. Here are the results (as of the time I checked) for each available choice: Question: "I prefer to read books/articles in the following format:" ===================================================================== paper 57% PDF 4% HTML 19% Giant Stone Letters 10% Text File 6% ===================================================================== Votes - 9,080 The voter comments area included hostile remarks about PDF and the Acrobat Reader. My job involves editing database software manuals directed toward developers, and our online doc medium is PDF, so I'm disappointed by these results. (Curiously, my company's main Unix guy prefers PDF to HTML.) At least it beat man pages! Comments? ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 16-Nov-1998 3:57:19-GMT,6608;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA07983 for ; Sun, 15 Nov 1998 20:57:18 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA24300; Sun, 15 Nov 1998 21:56:54 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 15 Nov 1998 21:53:16 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA24106; Sun, 15 Nov 1998 21:53:14 -0600 Message-ID: <01BE1157.58438700@irsb.innosabah.com.my> From: Nathan Lim To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] [pdf] Truncated title fields Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 11:50:43 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="---- =_NextPart_000_01BE1157.584B2820" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > ------ =_NextPart_000_01BE1157.584B2820 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks for taking the time to answer my question but...... I tried populating the Word document summary field before but AdobePS4.1 = simply took the SAVED name of the document and ignored the summary = fields. On top of that, I don't even know where the author field that = appears in the PS file is coming from. ---------- From: Nic Plum[SMTP:nic@nplum.demon.co.uk] The first place to look is in Word itself - even on Word 6 it is = possible to place a title which is more than 31 characters long in the title field = with no problems whatsoever. I's suggest you look inside Word at the File | Summary Information = dialog box and see what Word itself placed in the title field. This doesn't = sound like an Acrobat problem. It sounds more like Word 7 making an educated = guess because the users didn't provide it with something themselves (most = people don't use the File Summary Info/Document Properties capabilities of = Word). -----Original Message----- From: Nathan Lim When I use AdobePS4.1 to create PS files from Word95 for distilling, everything is OK until I check the title field in the PDF General Info = box. The Word document name is truncated at 31 characters within the title = field after conversion to PDF(note this does not happen when I use Word97). = When I check the PS file, I can see the truncated document name. One fix was = to edit the PS file but I don't want to have to open the PS file every time = to make changes as this would involve thousands of files a day, each with a unique document name. Am I missing something in the Word95 settings or something? Thanks in advance for any help.... 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-- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > >The reasoning is: if a font is subsetted parts of it are missing. > >If the only word in the font is QUITE and you want to change it > >to QUOTE, you can't, there is no "O" anywhere to be found. So, > >no editing with a subset. > > I do not have a problem with your example: > > If there is no "O" of the same font in my file, I can not > change QUITE to QUOTE. > > What I do NOT understand is: > > Why wouldn't Exchange let me change QUITE to QUIT ? I guess it could. Again, the rationale for not giving this feature is that (a) it is harder (b) it could be confusing (c) it shouldn't happen during OCR which is what the tool is designed for. > > And why doesn't Exchange tell me "I cannot edit because > the file contains a subsetted font ." Why does > it add "... that is not installed on my machine" ? > > Poor Design ? Arguably, or not a priority. Adobe's aim wasn't to encourage the editing of PDF files! Look at an editor designed for the purpose, like Pitstop, and you'll find this sort of facility. Aandi __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 16-Nov-1998 13:01:46-GMT,3675;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA17891 for ; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 06:01:45 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA17487; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 07:01:17 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 16 Nov 1998 06:57:40 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA17276; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 06:57:38 -0600 Message-ID: <002b01be1160$9354e6a0$c45137a6@default> From: "M.E. Martinez-Montalvo" To: Subject: [PDF] Filling out forms on line Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 06:56:47 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0028_01BE112E.477D14A0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0028_01BE112E.477D14A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I recently bought Acrobat Exchange. I am converting all the forms at = work to be viewed and completed using an Intranet I am also developing. = When using Exchange I have no problem, but, when using the Reader, the = fields are not available and the form cannot be filled out as intended. = I would appreciate it if someone can tell me what else I need to do to = make it work. I apologize in advance for asking such a simple question. = I am a beginner. Thank you. M.E. Martinez-Montalvo martinez_montalvo@yahoo.com =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0028_01BE112E.477D14A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I recently bought Acrobat Exchange. = I am=20 converting all the forms at work to be viewed and completed using an = Intranet I=20 am also developing. When using Exchange I have no problem, but, when = using the=20 Reader, the fields are not available and the form cannot be filled out = as=20 intended. I would appreciate it if someone can tell me what else I need = to do to=20 make it work. I apologize in advance for asking such a simple question. = I am a=20 beginner. Thank you.
 
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------=_NextPart_000_0028_01BE112E.477D14A0-- __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 16-Nov-1998 13:17:37-GMT,2896;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA18181 for ; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 06:17:36 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA18249; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 07:14:52 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 16 Nov 1998 07:12:18 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA18097; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 07:12:17 -0600 Message-Id: <199811161312.IAA23274@uakron.edu> From: "D. P. Story" Organization: The University of Akron To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 08:07:49 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: [PDF] Filling out forms on line In-reply-to: <002b01be1160$9354e6a0$c45137a6@default> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01b) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > There is an author's plug-in for exchange and s separate "filll-in" plug- in for Reader. Perhaps you don't have Forms 3.5 for the Acrobat Reader 3.01? See http://www.adobe.com/prodindex/acrobat/acrforms.html On 16 Nov 98, at 6:56, M.E. Martinez-Montalvo wrote: > I recently bought Acrobat Exchange. I am converting all the forms at work > to be viewed and completed using an Intranet I am also developing. When > using Exchange I have no problem, but, when using the Reader, the fields > are not available and the form cannot be filled out as intended. I would > appreciate it if someone can tell me what else I need to do to make it > work. I apologize in advance for asking such a simple question. I am a > beginner. Thank you. > > M.E. Martinez-Montalvo > martinez_montalvo@yahoo.com > Dr. D. P. Story dpstory@uakron.edu http://www.math.uakron.edu/~dpstory/ Dept of Mathematics and Computer Science / University of Akron / Akron, Ohio 44325 AcroTeX Site Overview: http://www.math.uakron.edu/~dpstory/acrotex.html Site Includes: e-Calculus, Algebra Review in Ten Lessons, Mathematics Games, Pdfmarks:Links & Forms, Using LaTeX to Create Quality PDF Documents for the WWW, and much, much more. __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 16-Nov-1998 13:51:31-GMT,5305;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA18856 for ; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 06:51:30 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA20148; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 07:48:44 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 16 Nov 1998 07:46:08 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA19976; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 07:46:07 -0600 Message-ID: From: "Williams, Dane/ATL" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] external access to PDF file Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 06:45:43 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Hello, I have a need to access various pre-defined parts of a large PDF file from outside the file in a website environment. Speaking with Adobe Support I found there is a way to do this using Netscape as the client browser, but was told that Internet Explorer (our primary browser) does not support this method. Does anyone have any innovative ideas / suggested alternatives / etc,... which would work with Explorer? I have attached the Adobe Technical Notes for use with Netscape for a better explanation of what I am trying to do. Thanks for any input, Dane ================================================== Title: Creating Link to a Specific PDF Page Using Named Destinations You can create a link from an HTML page to a PDF file, so you can open the PDF when viewing an HTML page in Netscape Navigator. By default, PDF files open to the first page. To open the PDF file to a specific page in Navigator, you can use "named destinations" -- specific instructions for opening files to a specific page. Named destinations do not work from Microsoft Internet Explorer. Before you can add the pdfmark operators for a specific page, you need to determine the page number. You may need to distill your PostScript file into a PDF file to determine its page number, since you need to use the page number as it's listed in the PDF file, rather than the page number that would appear on the printed page. Pages in a PDF file are numbered sequentially; the first page of the file is always page one. When you're viewing a PDF file, you can check the status bar at the bottom of the Acrobat viewer window to determine a page's number. Once you've determined the page number for the page you want to open, you can edit the PostScript file. Open the PostScript file in a text editor that can save in text-only format (e.g., WordPad, Microsoft Word), then type the following pdfmark operator immediately after the PostScript prologue (i.e., %%EndProlog): [/Dest/[name] /Page [x] /View [size] /DEST pdfmark For [name], type the PDF file's named destination, or the page you're opening (e.g., blueberries). You can name the destination anything you want to, but keep in mind you can use a specific destination name only once in each PostScript file. For [x], type the number of the destination page. For [size], type the name for the view in which you want the the destination page to display (e.g., FitB). For a complete list and descriptions of view options, see the pdfmark Reference Manual included with Acrobat Distiller and Acrobat 3.0x. For example, the following text will link to the Blueberries page of a PDF file, which begins on page 4, and the PDF file will open in the Fit Window view: [/Dest/blueberries /Page 4 /View [/FitB] /DEST pdfmark After you've added the pdfmark operators, save the PostScript file in text-only format, then distill it. Once the PDF file has been created with named destinations, you can refer to a named destination from an HTML page. To refer to the named destination, add "#name" to the end of the link from the HTML page. Use the same name you specified in your PostScript file above. For example, the following URL refers to the named destination Blueberries: http://www.yoursite.com/your.pdf#blueberries ================================================== Information sent from Adobe via techdocs@adobe.com is property of Adobe. Copyright (c) 1995-98 Adobe Systems Incorporated. All rights reserved. Adobe is a trademark of Adobe Systems Incorporated. All brand or product names used in technical records are trademarks or registered trademarks of their respective holders. ================================================== End of Document 136314 __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 16-Nov-1998 14:31:29-GMT,2928;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA19614 for ; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 07:31:28 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA22641; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 08:27:00 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 16 Nov 1998 08:21:46 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA22237; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 08:21:45 -0600 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Filling out forms on line Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 14:03:16 -0000 Message-ID: <000901be116c$195518a0$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <002b01be1160$9354e6a0$c45137a6@default> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Acrobat Reader can fill in forms, but cannot ever save them to disk; it can only print or submit them. If Acrobat Reader does not seem able to fill the forms, first verify you have version 3.0 of Reader installed. If you do, try reinstalling Reader. There is a "forms filling" plug-in, but contrary to popular belief you should not need this unless you are using a new "forms author" -and- you are using new features of it. Form filling is included with the basic reader 3.0. What you must not do is install the "forms author" into Acrobat Reader, that breaks the form filling ability. Aandi -----Original Message----- I recently bought Acrobat Exchange. I am converting all the forms at work to be viewed and completed using an Intranet I am also developing. When using Exchange I have no problem, but, when using the Reader, the fields are not available and the form cannot be filled out as intended. I would appreciate it if someone can tell me what else I need to do to make it work. I apologize in advance for asking such a simple question. I am a beginner. Thank you. M.E. Martinez-Montalvo martinez_montalvo@yahoo.com __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 16-Nov-1998 15:53:05-GMT,5408;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA21364 for ; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 08:53:03 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA28042; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 09:49:15 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 16 Nov 1998 09:42:23 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA27634; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 09:42:21 -0600 From: Laura.Dietz@arcor.net X-Lotus-FromDomain: ARCOR To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <412566BE.0055537E.00@slz-01-hub01.cni.net> Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 16:41:19 +0100 Subject: Antwort: RE: [PDF] TrueType handling by adobe_ps & distiller on windows - a workaround Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/mixed; Boundary="0__=vwpxSGyXR5GpGTnBb9q0cO2o32TWVYJDDN8Jadzg4i1S1RkVd8ukBY5f" Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > --0__=vwpxSGyXR5GpGTnBb9q0cO2o32TWVYJDDN8Jadzg4i1S1RkVd8ukBY5f Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Einstufung: Arcor-intern Hiya To all Win95/NT users, who have problems with truetypefonts... With Adobe's ATM (Adobe Type Manager) Deluxe you can "patch" your PS-Dr= iver (e.g. adobeps) to skip all TTFonts and use extra PS-fonts instead. This= means you have to get the adequate PS-Font first. When you distill such a PS-File, you should tell your Distiller to embe= d these PS-Fonts in the PDF-Document. Greetings, Laura Dietz =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Mannesmann Arcor AG & Co., K=F6lnerstr. 5, 65760 Eschborn =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Laura Dietz, FIO E-Mail: Laura.Dietz@arcor.net Phone: (069) 2169 - 5720, Fax: - 3939 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D For more information: http://www.arcor.net =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D fredrik.sjogren@folksam.se (Fredrik Sjogren) on 13.11.98 16:19:33 Bitte antworten an pdf@lists.pdfzone.com An: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Kopie: (Blindkopie: Laura Dietz/TIO_EXT/Eschborn/Arcor) Thema: RE: [PDF] TrueType handling by adobe_ps & distiller on window= s Einstufung: Arcor-intern = --0__=vwpxSGyXR5GpGTnBb9q0cO2o32TWVYJDDN8Jadzg4i1S1RkVd8ukBY5f Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Email Lists: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html List Archive: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ Help: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *Sponsor/Advt Opportunities*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com > I'm interested to know if you use NT or windows95/98. > Also, do you have any tips on using PS fonts on NT. > Do you work on crossplatform projects? > Thanks > Chris We have Win NT 4 (sp3). All fonts are located on the server. We use ATM 4.0 Delux for font managment. We do not have any Macs in the network, but some of our partners do work on Mac. if our partners uses Adobe fonts there are no problems for us to continue to work whith the files in our NT environment. > > It?s not MS, it?Adobe that cant do a PS driver that handels > TT-fonts. Maybe > > it?s because Adobe sell PS-fonts? > > We have no trobles with PS-fonts in our PC environment. The > problems starts > > when someone tries to use TT-fonts. > > \\\\fred -------------------------------------------- Graphics R&D voice: +46 8 772 66 36 Folksam fax: +46 8 643 45 91 S-106 60 Stockholm Sweden -------------------------------------------- __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ --0__=vwpxSGyXR5GpGTnBb9q0cO2o32TWVYJDDN8Jadzg4i1S1RkVd8ukBY5f-- __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 16-Nov-1998 16:55:06-GMT,5662;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA23043 for ; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 09:55:01 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA32174; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 10:51:28 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 16 Nov 1998 10:47:53 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA31826; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 10:47:51 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: kfoss@mailbag.com Message-Id: Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 10:46:23 -0600 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Kurt Foss Subject: [PDF] TOC for recent "PDF Showcase" Web feature Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > __________________________________ Table of Contents for past week's ===> "PDF Showcase" <=== a daily feature from PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com/ ___________________________________ PDF Showcase spotlights uses and users of the portable document format & Adobe Acrobat software, such as this past week's selections: * Monday, Nov. 9 -- "Free 'Koofers' in PDF - Old exams make new study guides" --------------------- http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/showcase/koofers-tests.html With many colleges and universities in the home stretch toward major exam season, some students may need all the help they can get. This site offers potential support in the form of old exams that have been scanned to pdf and are freely available for downloading. * Tuesday, Nov. 10 -- "Name That Tune! - Music from silent film era" --------------------- http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/showcase/silentfilms-music.html If your skills include piano playing and you're up for a historical reenactment challenge, download this free set of music written as accompaniment for early silent films. One small catch -- you must perform the tunes in front of a live crowd -- with the lights off. * Wednesday, Nov. 11 -- "Net Results - PDF-based 'Action Kits' for community activism" ------------------------- http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/showcase/work-web.html Perhaps the greatest strength of the Internet is linking like-minded people, no matter their physical location, into networked virtual communities. And where there is a community, there is community activism -- on a variety of issues and themes. 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Other free resources include: * several pdf-related email discussion lists * searchable list archives * a free ezine * comprehensive listing of tools & plug-ins * tips & tricks section * Acrobat PDF WebRing * PDF Bookshelf and MORE! ---> PDFzone.COM <--- "An Independent Hub to All Things PDF" Kurt Foss Internet Communications Mgr 579 D'Onofrio Dr. (608)829-0183 Suite 104 EMAIL: mailto:kfoss@pdfzone.com Madison, WI 53719 WWW: http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 16-Nov-1998 17:26:51-GMT,3494;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA23880 for ; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 10:26:45 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA02612; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 11:26:11 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 16 Nov 1998 11:23:35 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA02361; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 11:23:34 -0600 Content-return: allowed Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 12:23:16 -0500 From: "Watson, James R (Columbus)" Subject: RE: [PDF] Survey concerning PDF users To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Message-id: <5913080CA46DD111A98200A0C9960C10691E50@ns-bco-mse7.im.battelle.org> X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > I suspect part of the answer resides in the fact that many programmer already have a text application and a browser open and Acrobat take away additional precious memory. Additionally, many PDF documents are in an 8.5 by 11 paper format rather than design for on screen reading! It is my opinion that other possible readers of information may actually prefer PDF. There are times that PDF is best for me and other times a good text document is best. It depends what I am working on and which applications I already have open. This said, I do hate the fact that many authors use the 8.5 by 11 format and failure to add bookmarks and links. Jim > -----Original Message----- > From: dcmah@juno.com [SMTP:dcmah@juno.com] > Sent: Sunday, November 15, 1998 10:35 AM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: [PDF] Survey concerning PDF users > > > > Question: "I prefer to read books/articles in the following format:" > ===================================================================== > paper 57% > PDF 4% > HTML 19% > Giant Stone Letters 10% > Text File 6% > ===================================================================== > Votes - 9,080 > > The voter comments area included hostile remarks about PDF and the > Acrobat Reader. > > My job involves editing database software manuals directed toward > developers, and our online doc medium is PDF, so I'm disappointed by > these results. (Curiously, my company's main Unix guy prefers PDF to > HTML.) At least it beat man pages! > > Comments? __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 16-Nov-1998 17:39:16-GMT,6272;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA24202 for ; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 10:39:15 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA03567; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 11:37:42 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 16 Nov 1998 11:35:04 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA03297; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 11:35:01 -0600 X-Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated X-Division: Core Technology X-Department: Product Interoperability Analysis X-URL: Message-Id: <4.1.19981116091339.00acdcf0@mail-303> X-Sender: isaacs@mail-303 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 09:34:11 -0800 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com, Laura.Dietz@arcor.net From: Dov Isaacs Subject: Re: Antwort: RE: [PDF] TrueType handling by adobe_ps & distiller on windows - a workaround Cc: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com In-Reply-To: <412566BE.0055537E.00@slz-01-hub01.cni.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > There is no way to "patch" the driver. There are, though, multiple options by which TrueType fonts may be sent to a "printer" and of course, the Distiller is considered a "printer" by the driver. The default for most "modern-day" printers is that TrueType is sent as "Type42" fonts, native TrueType support. The outlines and hinting of the original TrueType font are preserved in their entirety. The printout quality when printing directly to an Adobe PostScript printer OR by creating a PDF file first and then printing from Reader/Exchange to either PostScript or non-PostScript printers is clearly the best using this option. The drawback of this solution with the current version of AdobePS and Acrobat (to be fixed in next releases) is that TrueType text is not searchable. At the opposite end is the option for TrueType fonts to be sent as "bitmaps." This results in resolution dependent Type 3 bitmap font conversions of the original TrueType fonts being sent in lieu of the TrueType font. Printing fidelity is acceptable only at exactly the resolution at which the Type3 fonts were generated. Thus, for purposes of PDF creation, this solution produces terrible results. If the PostScript was generated for 600dpi and the bitmap is displayed at 72dpi, the downsampling renders the text virtually unreadable at text point sizes. Not quite as bad is the option for TrueType fonts to be sent as "outlines." In conjunction with this option, you should set the "threshold to switch" value to "1" to avoid fonts being sent partially as device dependent bitmaps. With this option, the TrueType fonts are converted to equivalent UNhinted Type1 outline fonts. Because the fonts are unhinted, at smaller point sizes (the actual size dependent on the printer/display's resolution and the design of the fonts), the fonts look emboldened, filled in, and/or otherwise of poor quality. Acrobat display of text at text sizes in PDF files that have these fonts and subsequent printing to both PostScript and non-PostScript printers is generally quite suboptimal. Very high resolution devices may "get away" with such fonts. Until the next versions of Acrobat and AdobePS come out, if one wants good display and print quality, one must choose either to use "native" Type 1 fonts (i.e., NOT converted by the OS and driver to either bitmaps or unhinted outlines) or use TrueType fonts and suffer the inconvenience of lack of search in the short term. This is certainly not what you all want to hear, but it is the current situation. Adobe is working to rectify the problem as quickly as possible, but the fix is unfortunately not just a matter a patching a few lines of code. [For those cynics amongst you, this problem was NOT done purposely to cause problems for TrueType!] - Dov At 11/16/98 07:41 AM , Laura.Dietz@arcor.net wrote: > >Einstufung: Arcor-intern >Hiya > >To all Win95/NT users, who have problems with truetypefonts... > >With Adobe's ATM (Adobe Type Manager) Deluxe you can "patch" your PS-Driver >(e.g. adobeps) to skip all TTFonts and use extra PS-fonts instead. This >means you have to get the adequate PS-Font first. > >When you distill such a PS-File, you should tell your Distiller to embed >these PS-Fonts in the PDF-Document. > >Greetings, > Laura Dietz > >fredrik.sjogren@folksam.se (Fredrik Sjogren) on 13.11.98 16:19:33 > >Bitte antworten an pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > >An: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com >Kopie: (Blindkopie: Laura Dietz/TIO_EXT/Eschborn/Arcor) >Thema: RE: [PDF] TrueType handling by adobe_ps & distiller on windows >Einstufung: Arcor-intern > >> I'm interested to know if you use NT or windows95/98. >> Also, do you have any tips on using PS fonts on NT. >> Do you work on crossplatform projects? >> Thanks >> Chris > >We have Win NT 4 (sp3). All fonts are located on the server. We use ATM 4.0 >Delux for font managment. We do not have any Macs in the network, but some >of our partners do work on Mac. if our partners uses Adobe fonts there are >no problems for us to continue to work whith the files in our NT >environment. > >> > It?s not MS, it?Adobe that cant do a PS driver that handels >> TT-fonts. Maybe >> > it?s because Adobe sell PS-fonts? >> > We have no trobles with PS-fonts in our PC environment. The >> problems starts >> > when someone tries to use TT-fonts. >> > > >\\\\fred __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 16-Nov-1998 18:25:33-GMT,3880;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA25562 for ; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 11:25:32 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA06870; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 12:24:36 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 16 Nov 1998 12:21:07 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA06653; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 12:21:01 -0600 Message-Id: <199811161820.KAA15453@wren.prod.itd.earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.0c (197) Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 10:25:17 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Survey concerning PDF users From: "C. Scott Miller" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > Question: "I prefer to read books/articles in the following format:" > ===================================================================== > paper 57% > PDF 4% > HTML 19% > Giant Stone Letters 10% > Text File 6% > ===================================================================== > Votes - 9,080 > >The voter comments area included hostile remarks about PDF and the >Acrobat Reader. > >Comments? What is most telling about your data is the 57% of respondents who prefer paper. That's pure generational behavior pattern - you should be impressed that 43% said something other than paper in the few short years that the alternatives have been around (forgive me, I don't know what you mean by "Giant Stone Letters"). People use what they are familiar with and that is the order of your response. You might be able to state 25 benefits of doing one thing over doing another (leading a horse to water) and you will not change behavior (can't make them drink). Adobe and the rest of us have a ways to go to change behavior... and it will take time. Get the schools involved and we might change the rankings within 3 years. But it will probably take a generation to get people away from preferring paper. Ithink EDMS could help make a difference. Corporations are starting to realize the format advantages of PDF for document and content management. Each of the benefits PDF has going for it supply enough of a reason for formatting using PDF to solve a particular problem. In combination there is a compelling argument for archiving and distributing most page-described documents via PDF. Maybe corporate EDMS systems will do the educating for us and it will filter down to the public. C. Scott Miller PDF R_e_s_e_a_r_c_h__C_o_m_p_a_n_i_o_n A Designer's Guide to Adobe's Portable Document Format http://www.performancegraphics.com a production of Performance Graphics millercs@performancegraphics.com __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 16-Nov-1998 18:48:31-GMT,2547;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA26203 for ; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 11:48:25 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA08456; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 12:47:53 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 16 Nov 1998 12:45:21 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA08219; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 12:45:20 -0600 Message-ID: <617829F216CED011966000805F59E073017FC6D5@exchptc1.switch.com> From: "Huston, Virgil H." To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Survey concerning PDF users Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 13:45:01 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > What is most telling about your data is the 57% of respondents who > prefer > paper. That's pure generational behavior pattern - you should be > impressed > that 43% said something other than paper in the few short years that > the > alternatives have been around (forgive me, I don't know what you mean > by > "Giant Stone Letters"). > [Huston, Virgil H.] I have to disagree here. I am a web designer and avid PDF creator. I, and most people I know of all ages, much prefer paper. THat is why print will never go completely away. Paper is simply so much more convienent. How many people read on a computer whild sitting on the john, for example. Or in bed, or most other places? I am one of those who prints out a large part of what I want to read online. Especially if it is a keeper. How many people can honestly say that they like help files or Adobe's PDF documentation? Both are almost useless online and off. Virgil __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 16-Nov-1998 19:00:40-GMT,4498;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA26529 for ; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 12:00:39 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA09390; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 12:58:19 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 16 Nov 1998 12:55:42 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA09180; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 12:55:41 -0600 Message-ID: <697A4CA51395D111A658AA0004005806974AC7@NT6> From: "Pottinger, Hardy" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] An easier install procedure for CD-ROMs? Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 12:55:36 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Greetings. I am wondering if anyone out there has had to come up with an easier (read: automatic) installation procedure for a multi-platform CD-ROM containing PDFs and the Acrobat Reader + Search? I am in the process of looking at several installation packages, but I'm hoping that I don't have to do all the trailblazing. The package that looks the most feasible is Installer VISE by Mindvision (http://www.mindvision.com). In case this might help, here's a little background about what I'm trying to do: WHO WE ARE I work for the Orthopaedic Research Society. We are a non-profit, member-supported group of orthopaedic researchers. Here's what our web page (http://www.ors.org) says about us: --- The Orthopaedic Research Society (ORS) was founded in 1954 and incorporated as a non-profit organization in 1982. The purposes of the ORS are to promote, support, develop and encourage research in orthopaedic surgery, musculoskeletal diseases, musculoskeletal injuries and disciplines related thereto; to provide, encourage, develop and sponsor educational activities related to the foregoing; and to provide forums for dissemination of knowledge in these fields. The intent of these efforts is to improve the care of patients with musculoskeletal diseases and injuries. The Society has approximately 1,700 members. Activities of the Society to serve its stated purposes include an Annual Meeting and publication of the Journal of Orthopaedic Research in which the musculoskeletal community communicates the current state of orthopaedic research. --- WHAT I AM TRYING TO DO At our annual meeting, we have a fairly extensive scientific program. Part of this program is a book of abstracts which correspond to all the presentations being given during the meeting (both poster and podium presentations). These books typically consist of over 1,100 abstracts, which makes for a pretty hefty book! So, this year, we are going to provide the abstracts on a CD-ROM. We are using Adobe Acrobat to store the abstracts, but the Program Committee Chairman is worried about the complexity of the default Reader installation, and, since he calls the shots, I have been directed to pursue a simpler, hopefully _automatic_, method of installing the Adobe Acrobat Reader + Search software. Based on our data, roughly 40% of our members are using Macs, and the rest are using PCs. Of the PC users, the vast majority (over 95%) are on Windows 95. So, ideally, I'm looking for a way to make a Mac and Windows compatible, auto-install CD-ROM. Which means we will need to license both the PC and Mac versions of Installer VISE. ----------------------------------- Mr. HARDY POTTINGER Information Coordinator Orthopaedic Research Society 6300 N River Rd Ste 727 Rosemont, IL 60018-4226 (847)384-4219 / FAX (847)823-0536 pottinger@aaos.org http://www.ors.org ----------------------------------- __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 16-Nov-1998 19:25:08-GMT,3699;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA27102 for ; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 12:25:07 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA11619; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 13:24:36 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 16 Nov 1998 13:21:39 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA11261; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 13:21:37 -0600 Message-ID: <3647355B00002D8D@mailhost.jdpub.com> (added by mailhost.jdpub.com) Date: 16 Nov 98 13:21:44 -0600 From: Jeff Rochon Subject: RE: [PDF] Survey concerning PDF users To: pdf X-Mailer: QuickMail Pro 1.5.3 (Mac) X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-Ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id NAA11257 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Reply to: RE: [PDF] Survey concerning PDF users this survey may also be looked at from a prespective of "information use". a "most preferred" response to data must first be qualified at what "type" of information you are talking about. different types favor different formats. in my opinion, [electronic forms of data] favor the archived, database driven information where you are searching for a SPECIFIC piece of information. this is where online [HTML] and print converted to [PDF] have and always will have merit. in the end it is becoming a combination of both print and electronic, each complimenting the other. you may log onto a website and download a pdf manual, but in the end print it out for the ability to read in bed. does that mean you "PREFER" print. i don't think so. in this case without the electronic pdf document, you would have NOTHING to print. jeff rochon jdtv, inc. Huston, Virgil H. wrote: > >< ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > > > >> What is most telling about your data is the 57% of respondents who >> prefer >> paper. That's pure generational behavior pattern - you should be >> impressed >> that 43% said something other than paper in the few short years that >> the >> alternatives have been around (forgive me, I don't know what you mean >> by >> "Giant Stone Letters"). >> > [Huston, Virgil H.] I have to disagree here. I am a web >designer and avid PDF creator. I, and most people I know of all ages, >much prefer paper. THat is why print will never go completely away. >Paper is simply so much more convienent. How many people read on a >computer whild sitting on the john, for example. Or in bed, or most >other places? I am one of those who prints out a large part of what I >want to read online. Especially if it is a keeper. How many people can >honestly say that they like help files or Adobe's PDF documentation? >Both are almost useless online and off. > > Virgil __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 16-Nov-1998 19:28:32-GMT,3320;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA27200 for ; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 12:28:26 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA11819; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 13:27:01 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 16 Nov 1998 13:24:33 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA11589; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 13:24:29 -0600 From: "Dan O'Connor" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] Survey concerning PDF users Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 13:21:55 -0600 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1162 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > However, PDF gives you the option. Read it on-line if you like. If you don't, print a 'readable copy' in it's (hopefully properly designed) original printed format. ---------- From: Huston, Virgil H. To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' Subject: RE: [PDF] Survey concerning PDF users Date: Monday, November 16, 1998 12:45 PM < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > What is most telling about your data is the 57% of respondents who > prefer > paper. That's pure generational behavior pattern - you should be > impressed > that 43% said something other than paper in the few short years that > the > alternatives have been around (forgive me, I don't know what you mean > by > "Giant Stone Letters"). > [Huston, Virgil H.] I have to disagree here. I am a web designer and avid PDF creator. I, and most people I know of all ages, much prefer paper. THat is why print will never go completely away. Paper is simply so much more convienent. How many people read on a computer whild sitting on the john, for example. Or in bed, or most other places? I am one of those who prints out a large part of what I want to read online. Especially if it is a keeper. How many people can honestly say that they like help files or Adobe's PDF documentation? Both are almost useless online and off. Virgil __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 16-Nov-1998 19:29:13-GMT,3606;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA27239 for ; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 12:29:12 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA12021; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 13:28:28 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 16 Nov 1998 13:25:56 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA11730; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 13:25:54 -0600 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] An easier install procedure for CD-ROMs? Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 19:23:04 -0000 Message-ID: <001001be1196$96292cc0$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <697A4CA51395D111A658AA0004005806974AC7@NT6> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > > So, ideally, I'm looking for a way to make a Mac and Windows > compatible, > auto-install CD-ROM. Which means we will need to license both > the PC and Mac > versions of Installer VISE. > You may be aware of this, or not, but it's worth remembering that under the terms of the Reader redistribution license you may only ship the Adobe installer. That doesn't prevent you from having your own installer, which runs Adobe's installer; but it does prevent you from repackaging it or making it fully automatic. "Automatic" to me suggests two things which are undesirable: 1. That the user is not prompted as to whether to install Reader, or where to install it. That would be very bad. 2. That you bypass the license agreement, which again is strictly forbidden. I thought I'd add the following note, too, based on some research I did a little while ago, and is a reasonable cross-over with this question. I often see questions about how to "autorun" a Windows 95 CDROM, which allows the user the choice of installing Acrobat Reader or viewing one or more PDF files. The answer involves writing a program, which some users are unable or unwilling to do. So I thought I'd share a link I found to http://www.powerup.com.au/~calypso. This is inexpensive shareware which allows autorun CDROMs to be created without programming. I haven't tried any of it out, but this might be the answer to this question. If anyone has used any of this software, it may be worth sharing your experiences. Note that autorun is a Microsoft concept implemented on Windows 95/98/NT4. You cannot have AutoRun CDROMs for Windows 3.1. You can have Macintosh autorun CDROMs, but this is rarely done; and many people may have disabled autorun on Macintoshes because of a particularly nasty virus problem. Aandi __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 16-Nov-1998 19:36:48-GMT,3193;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA27439 for ; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 12:36:46 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA12665; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 13:35:51 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 16 Nov 1998 13:33:10 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA12455; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 13:33:08 -0600 From: "David Cornwell" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Paper vs PDF vs HTML vs anything else Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 19:37:55 -0000 Message-ID: <000201be1198$9b414600$0441a8c0@davec.docctrl.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2120.0 In-Reply-To: <617829F216CED011966000805F59E073017FC6D5@exchptc1.switch.com> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Surely the question is not one of whether people prefer paper or PDF or anything else for that matter. I happen to agree that people will always want to print out the information and thus, to my mind, the question becomes: "what is the best delivery mechanism for the information or document which will almost certainly end up in paper format"? The answer, in my view, depends on whether there is an attempt to impart information or "a document". These are different things. People spend thousands of $ designing a corporate image and marketing material to present themselves. The presentation of a document whether it be a brochure or letter is important. A document comprises information and layout. The beauty of PDF, in this case, is the "paper like" qualities it exhibits. The smooth transition from marketing brochure or internal corporate procedure to PDF then to a printed document which looks like the "paper" original is a key benefit. Thus aren't we somewhat missing the point if we are arguing whether of not paper will disappear! drc --- David Cornwell, Director - Business Development Computerised Document Control Ltd PO Box 5, Chepstow, Monmouthshire, NP6 6YU, United Kingdom Tel: + 44 (0) 1291 635 403 (direct) ; USA: 1-888-240-1752 Fax: + 44 (0) 1291 623 902 www.docctrl.com Forging the link between Document Systems and Acrobat __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 16-Nov-1998 20:05:56-GMT,2894;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA28198 for ; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 13:05:55 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA15255; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 14:05:23 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 16 Nov 1998 14:02:34 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA15025; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 14:02:33 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19981116151306.00924db0@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 15:13:06 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: RE: [PDF] Survey concerning PDF users In-Reply-To: <617829F216CED011966000805F59E073017FC6D5@exchptc1.switch.c om> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > [Huston, Virgil H.] I have to disagree here. I am a web >designer and avid PDF creator. I, and most people I know of all ages, >much prefer paper. THat is why print will never go completely away. >Paper is simply so much more convienent. How many people read on a >computer whild sitting on the john, for example. Or in bed, or most >other places? I am one of those who prints out a large part of what I >want to read online. Especially if it is a keeper. How many people can >honestly say that they like help files or Adobe's PDF documentation? >Both are almost useless online and off. > Generally, I find that so little of what I read is worth printing, even in a good manual, that I DO prefer PDF. I can print just the pages relevant to my immediate needs and don't have to worry about filing them (compulsive packrats abound here ... anything that reduces the paper burden is A Good Thing). And unlike a paper doc, I can stash the pdf somewhere off on a network drive, include it in catalog indexes and have a VERY simple way of referencing tons of info from disparate sources. Could never do anything like it with paper docs. Steve Rindsberg/Prez RDP http://www.rdpslides.com __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 16-Nov-1998 20:16:23-GMT,6723;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA28442 for ; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 13:16:22 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA16177; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 14:15:59 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 16 Nov 1998 14:13:23 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA15949; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 14:13:21 -0600 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Survey concerning PDF users Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 20:10:46 -0000 Message-ID: <001101be119d$355ede60$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <19981115.153452.3438.1.dcmah@juno.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > There was a recent survey, done on the programmer-oriented, > interactive > website www.slashdot.org ("News for Nerds" is their slogan; > much of their > audience includes Unix users and Windows haters), asking > readers to pick > which format they preferred to read books/articles. Here are > the results > (as of the time I checked) for each available choice: > > Question: "I prefer to read books/articles in the > following format: > paper 57% > PDF 4% > HTML 19% > Giant Stone Letters 10% > Text File 6% This is an interesting result, if not an encouraging one for those trying to push PDF. Here are my thoughts on this, in no particular order. First, notice that this is a survey of PROGRAMMERS. Although they might argue otherwise, programmers are profoundly atypical computer users. Far too much software and documentation is targeted at the typical programmer than the typical computer user already, for obvious reasons. Probably only programmers would pick 10% for giant stone letters (which means just what it says, and if you are baffled just think of it as "nerd humour"). Of course, if your target audience is programmers this is useful, but beware of generalising. Second, notice the question is loaded. "I prefer to READ...BOOKS/ARTICLES" effectively says, if you have a book, how do you want to read it. Yet software documentation is not necessarily books. Let's load the question a little more: "If you have a software manual which is not set up for interactive use, and which is formatted for paper pages, would you rather have a nice printed manual or a crummy PDF." In fact, the question is pretty much asking this. But let's ask it a different way: "Would you rather have an interactive documentation system with fast topic lookup, or a printed manual". I suspect the answer starts to change now, because the immediacy of the interactive document, and the (potential) speed of look-up, become more attractive. Or ask still another way: "Would you ever make use of a PDF copy of a manual which was also delivered to you on paper?" Now, let's now have any illusions. If we write a manual as if it is a printed book, then include a PDF instead of a printed manual, the main reason we do this is to save money. Our money, not the customer's money, they will say. There are other reasons: faster turnround if we aren't relying on print shops, for instance. But the user may well argue that she is being asked to print her own manual at her expense, and will end up with an unmanagable pile of paper rather than a book. Printed-out manuals have to be put in a binder or kept in a pile; either way it uses more of the customer's valuable space than a neat manual. No surprise which will win there. And, for software costing thousands of dollars, it seems rather insulting not to spend a little on printed manuals, for those that want them. There's one trend in software publishing which shifts the emphasis of this point significantly. People increasingly like to buy their software electonically. No hardcopy of any kind changes hands. In this case electronic provision of documentation is the only choice. I'll conclude by looking at what we did for our next product, Quite A Box Of Tricks. This is an Acrobat plug-in, designed to be lightweight and easy to use, but like anything else there are questions a user will need answers to. Finally settled on a heavily hyperlinked document with small pages (larger than the Acrobat documents though, because people seem to assume that small pages must mean superficial presentation, but able to fit on most screens in the target audience). It comes to 48 pages, and is sort of context sensitive, in that the help button opens it to one of five chapters depending on what you are doing. Each chapter starts with a hyperlinked table of contents, as well as a master at the front. We plan to ship the product with no printed manual, partly because we envisage this kind of product selling mainly electronically. And, we'll additionally supply a printable manual. This is reformatted to print on A4 and letter, with two columns, and with the hyperlinks replaced by (see page. ...) references. This brings it down to 24 pages which saves everyone paper if they want to print. It isn't pretty, but when someone prints their own software reference it is never pretty, and they aren't grateful for a little heap of title pages, table of contents, and intentionally blank pages. The web site isn't ready, and I won't normally invite people to "under construction pages", but you can see both manuals on http://www.quite.com/box/manuals.htm. Don't expect the other links to work yet! Lest anyone think producing two manuals is an enormous waste of time, the two are generated from a single FrameMaker original. Importing templates and creating PDF files for both versions of the document takes less than 15 minutes. Aandi Inston __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 16-Nov-1998 21:05:28-GMT,3368;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA29631 for ; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 14:05:22 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA20244; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 15:04:26 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 16 Nov 1998 15:01:10 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA19949; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 15:01:08 -0600 Message-Id: <199811162101.NAA24877@crane.prod.itd.earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.0c (197) Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 13:05:27 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Survey concerning PDF users From: "C. Scott Miller" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > Question: "I prefer to read books/articles in the following format:" > ===================================================================== > paper 57% > PDF 4% > HTML 19% > Giant Stone Letters 10% > Text File 6% > ===================================================================== > Votes - 9,080 One other comment... The "paper preference" percentage is probably the best evidence there is that PDF should be the primary distribution medium for documents. You can't get to paper with HTML very well (no page description). And text files (.doc, .ppt, and xls) are not viewable over the internet. So your real choice is not between reading methodology - paper vs. pdf. It is between distribution methodology - print then distribute (VERY expensive for the producer) vs. distribute then print (very inexpensive with all the side benefits of electronic searchability, submitable forms, editing, output customization, and content scalability). Based on the 57% paper preference above (probably 93% to the general public - a guess) PDF is the best way to distribute documents over the web. The BIG caveat is the problem of getting people to install Reader to view and print. C. Scott Miller PDF R_e_s_e_a_r_c_h__C_o_m_p_a_n_i_o_n A Designer's Guide to Adobe's Portable Document Format http://www.performancegraphics.com a production of Performance Graphics millercs@performancegraphics.com __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 16-Nov-1998 21:10:38-GMT,2355;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA29761 for ; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 14:10:37 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA20773; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 15:10:14 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 16 Nov 1998 15:07:27 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA20564; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 15:07:25 -0600 From: Karen_L_Mibus@keybank.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: KEYCORP To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <852566BE.006D03CE.00@keybank.com> Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 15:51:52 -0500 Subject: Re: [PDF] Survey concerning PDF users Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Does anyone know of a survey that shows a break down of the types of documents people prefer to view online and how they use those documents? I know of one survey site, but they concentrate more on the general use of the Internet than user guide, reference material, policies and procedures, etc. Of course, any public survey regarding the use of PDF documents is of most interest to me and to my corporation at large. For example, we'd really like to know how comfortable is the public with having to download the Reader to view attached PDFs to e-mails? See the address for GVU's (Georgia Tech) WWW User Survey results: Home page: http://www.gvu.gatech.edu/user_surveys April 98 WWW Users Survey Results: http://www.gvu.gatech.edu/user_surveys/survey-1998-04/reports/1998-04-Us e.html --Karen __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 16-Nov-1998 22:44:42-GMT,2355;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA02322 for ; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 15:44:36 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA28019; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 16:43:50 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 16 Nov 1998 16:40:19 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA27798; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 16:40:17 -0600 Message-ID: <00b301be11b1$db54bd80$1d0d9fcf@default> From: "Jim and Marguerite Ripley" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] Survey concerning PDF users Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 13:17:03 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2120.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2120.0 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > James Watson wrote >Additionally, many PDF documents are in an 8.5 >by 11 paper format rather than design for on screen reading! I may be missing something simple in this issue of screen readable vs. paper preference. Why is it not possible to design a screen page of roughly 5.5 x 8.5 and a print driver which would print two up at 100% on a regular 8.5x11 piece of paper? I have done some experimenting with reprinting a PDF via a PostScript driver using the two to a page option and refrying the ps file to a new PDF. The result comes out with two to a page alright, but side by side and reduced to the point of being unusable. __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 17-Nov-1998 0:09:40-GMT,2774;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA06264 for ; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 17:09:35 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA01260; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 18:09:04 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 16 Nov 1998 18:05:56 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA01049; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 18:05:54 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19981116191626.00859820@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 19:16:26 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] Survey concerning PDF users In-Reply-To: <00b301be11b1$db54bd80$1d0d9fcf@default> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > A >I may be missing something simple in this issue of screen readable vs. paper >preference. Why is it not possible to design a screen page of roughly 5.5 x >8.5 and a print driver which would print two up at 100% on a regular 8.5x11 >piece of paper? The problem here is that the end user would have to have a PS driver or Distiller and be taught how to set it all up to print correctly. > >I have done some experimenting with reprinting a PDF via a PostScript driver >using the two to a page option and refrying the ps file to a new PDF. The >result comes out with two to a page alright, but side by side and reduced to >the point of being unusable. > I think you may need the Adobe PS driver (under Win95 at least) to make this work, but ISTR the trick is to set the driver to enlarge the page to something like 400%, then set Shrink To Fit in Reader/Exchange. That solves some of the problems. This is also handy for printing some of the Adobe Acrodocs, which are set up for on-screen use. I find them quite readable printed 4-up. Steve Rindsberg/Prez RDP http://www.rdpslides.com __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 17-Nov-1998 0:53:35-GMT,2668;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA07562 for ; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 17:53:33 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA04092; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 18:53:15 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 16 Nov 1998 18:50:10 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA03864; Mon, 16 Nov 1998 18:50:05 -0600 Message-ID: <00ea01be11c3$febdd060$1d0d9fcf@default> From: "Jim and Marguerite Ripley" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] Survey concerning PDF users Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 16:48:26 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2120.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2120.0 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > -----Original Message----- From: Steve Rindsberg > >The problem here is that the end user would have to have a PS driver or >Distiller and be taught how to set it all up to print correctly. > Jim Ripley responds Properly designed, an individual should only need a PS printer. I am perhaps not speaking of something that presently exists. But is it impossible to produce driver/software which would print from Acrobat Reader/Exchange to produce two 5.5x8.5 pages on one 8.5x11 sheet of paper in portrait alignment? I have no programming or software development experience but with all the other tricky things that can be done why is this not possible? In my simple minded ignorance it seems that this would move a long way toward solving the whole screen readable vs. printing issue. Perhaps I am missing something really simple and I am going to have egg all over my face. Oh well, at least eating crow is non fattening. __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 17-Nov-1998 15:33:47-GMT,2103;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA24509 for ; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 08:33:46 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA26418; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 09:32:08 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 17 Nov 1998 09:28:15 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA25865; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 09:28:11 -0600 Message-ID: <3652E67A.5F775C7C@ix.netcom.com> Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 07:23:38 -0800 From: William Belk X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "pdf@lists.pdfzone.com" Subject: [PDF] Customizing Appearance of Search Results Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Our client doesn't like how the "View Search Results" feature creates a dark shadow (highlighting) around the search target words, but also isn't happy with the "No Highlighting" feature available in Preferences. Is there a way to customize the search results highlighting in order to lighten, but not eliminate, the shadowing effect. If there is, I can't find any documentation. Any advice would be appreciated. Bill Belk Publishing Technologies Manager IT Corporation __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 17-Nov-1998 18:33:33-GMT,2301;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA29491 for ; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 11:33:27 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA06986; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 12:29:44 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 17 Nov 1998 12:23:35 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA06472; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 12:23:33 -0600 From: Karen_L_Mibus@keybank.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: KEYCORP To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <852566BF.00641A28.00@keybank.com> Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 13:19:12 -0500 Subject: [PDF] Providing Reader on Web Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > My clients want users to download the Reader directly from their own Web pages. I visitied Adobe's Distribution page: http://www.adobe.com/prodindex/acrobat/distribute.html#icons and did not find any statement forbidding me from satisfying their wishes. My plan is to provide the Get Acrobat Reader button which the user will click and automatically start downloading the Reader. Of course I am providing them with information on file size, how to download, etc. Am I correct in my understanding that as long as the .exe file remains fully intact with all licensing included, I can provide the Reader in this manner? I have only made the Reader available to clients on our Intranet. I have not done so on the Internet. Thanks in advance for your help! --Karen __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 17-Nov-1998 18:33:40-GMT,1883;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA29496 for ; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 11:33:39 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA07322; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 12:32:57 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 17 Nov 1998 12:30:16 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA07076; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 12:30:15 -0600 From: Karen_L_Mibus@keybank.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: KEYCORP To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <852566BF.0064FBE3.00@keybank.com> Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 13:26:56 -0500 Subject: [PDF] Re: Providing Reader on Web Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Am I understanding this statement from Adobe's license agreement correctly to mean that I can provide a copy of the Reader as per my previous e-mail to the PDF@List? Or does the link have to be to Adobe's Product Web page? (ii) Licensee may use the "Get Adobe Acrobat" icon solely as an indicator of a link to Adobe Acrobat products. --Karen __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 17-Nov-1998 18:46:32-GMT,11998;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA29803 for ; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 11:46:31 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA08648; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 12:45:35 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 17 Nov 1998 12:42:54 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA08227; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 12:42:51 -0600 Message-ID: <01BE1217.02157120@marshall2100.autoiii.com> From: Geoff Marshall To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Survey concerning PDF users Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 10:42:43 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="---- =_NextPart_000_01BE1217.02157120" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > ------ =_NextPart_000_01BE1217.02157120 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Of all the comments made on these survey results much has been said about reading paper versus on-line documentation, but I've not seen one comment regarding the 5-to-1 preference of HTML over PDF. Surely this is the observation that's of most importance to this forum (pdfzone!). Everyone using PDF has bought into the argument that PDF gives reliable presentation, structure AND reliable transfer to paper if wanted, as well as the HTML-ey things link internal and external hot links, sound, movie etc. (the only HTML feature I can think of that's missing is text re-flow). So why would anyone (even a programmer) prefer reading HTML to reading PDF ? Just for re-flow ? To me the answer seems obvious - it's the browser stupid ! We've had fierce competition in the HTML browser arena that has resulted in a choice between at least two superb pieces of software; in the PDF arena there is no competition and that's why we have to put up with :- - un-cached screen rendering at the speed of pouring molasses, - unsolicited window resizing and layout, - unreliable keyboard translations (up/down, left/right, page up/down etc. in different modes at different magnifications... ughh), - unreliable mouse translations (does hand have arrow ?, topped arrow ? the finger ? ... double ughh). - no active feedback over hotspots or overdrawing of hotspot area. - incongruous visual metaphors for the platform (sorry Mac users, those rotating arrows really irk me). I don't know what portion of the above complaints is due to the document being browsed but I do blame the browser. The general feel of the UI is of a schizophrenic program that can't decide if it's a layout program, a form interpreter or a "book/article" browser. The survey respondents (and I) want a good PDF browser. Anyone else agree ? Is there any competition ? Anyone want to fund me ? :-) Geoff Marshall -----Original Message----- From: Dennis C Lee [SMTP:dcmah@juno.com] Sent: Sunday, November 15, 1998 7:35 AM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Survey concerning PDF users Email Lists: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html List Archive: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ Help: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *Sponsor/Advt Opportunities*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com There was a recent survey, done on the programmer-oriented, interactive website www.slashdot.org ("News for Nerds" is their slogan; much of their audience includes Unix users and Windows haters), asking readers to pick which format they preferred to read books/articles. Here are the results (as of the time I checked) for each available choice: Question: "I prefer to read books/articles in the following format:" ===================================================================== paper 57% PDF 4% HTML 19% Giant Stone Letters 10% Text File 6% ===================================================================== Votes - 9,080 The voter comments area included hostile remarks about PDF and the Acrobat Reader. My job involves editing database software manuals directed toward developers, and our online doc medium is PDF, so I'm disappointed by these results. (Curiously, my company's main Unix guy prefers PDF to HTML.) At least it beat man pages! Comments? ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. 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13:01:43 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA10044; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 13:01:41 -0600 Message-ID: <697A4CA51395D111A658AA0004005806974AF0@NT6> From: "Pottinger, Hardy" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Cc: "'quite@dial.pipex.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] An easier install procedure for CD-ROMs? Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 13:01:35 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Sorry, it was such a long message, I fear my intent was lost. I will try to clarify: I am not looking for something to _replace_ the adobe installer. To do so would be, as you accurately point out, illegal. However, the install procedure as offered by Adobe is not as turn-key as my boss would like. The steps required--if you use only what Adobe gives you, and an ISO 9660 CD-ROM-- are: 1) read the documentation provided with the CD-ROM, either printed on the CD-ROM, or on the insert (we already have problems: what's the number... 75% of users don't read the docs?) 2) read the readme1 file on the CD-ROM. This file instructs you to read the readme2 file in the AcroExch folder for your appropriate platform, Mac, Win, or Unix 3) following instructions, the user must find and run the appropriate setup program for their platform. The alternative is to provide a hybrid mac/pc (HFS/ISO) CD-ROM, with small autorun install programs, that would in turn run the Reader + Search installer, if the users so chose. This scheme would present a more professional image for our society, and would ensure that inexperienced users will still be able to access our scientific program. Experienced users who have turned off the autorun capabilities of their computer are naturally not of concern to us, since they probably also read documentation. :-) So, that's what I was aiming for: a hybrid (multiple-partition) CD-ROM, with both and HFS (Mac) and an ISO volumes. There is a package that Adaptec makes, called Toast, which will do this on a Mac. There also appears to be a rather pricey one available for Windows platforms, and finally, there's a free (currently still in beta) package that will do this in Windows, which was mentioned in a previous version of this list. In case anyone's interested in checking that out, the program is Hybridator, and URL is http://www.macdisk.com. However, this is all pretty complicated, and poses a steep learning curve for me, so, given my time constraints, I am faced with two options: 1) grin and bear it, use what Adobe provides out of the box, burn an ISO9600 CD-ROM master, write up the clearest docs I can, and hope for the best; 2) contract out the job for creating the installs, and mastering the hybrid CD. Option 2 is a definite possibility, and I've already been contacted by one vendor based on my first post to this list. Heads up to any other vendors, I'm willing to entertain bids. I was really hoping that someone may have done this before, but I think I have all the information I need now. I really am at a loss of what direction to proceed, so I'm leaving that up to my boss (that's what she gets the big bucks for, right?) :-) Thanks for the help. Perhaps this little exchange will help someone else who marches down this road. ----------------------------------- Mr. HARDY POTTINGER Information Coordinator Orthopaedic Research Society 6300 N River Rd Ste 727 Rosemont, IL 60018-4226 (847)384-4219 / FAX (847)823-0536 pottinger@aaos.org http://www.ors.org ----------------------------------- __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 17-Nov-1998 19:22:35-GMT,2458;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA00828 for ; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 12:22:30 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA11909; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 13:21:53 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 17 Nov 1998 13:19:07 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA11634; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 13:19:00 -0600 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Providing Reader on Web Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 19:01:57 -0000 Message-ID: <000901be125c$e0c8cda0$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <852566BF.00641A28.00@keybank.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > My clients want users to download the Reader directly from > their own Web > pages. I visitied Adobe's Distribution page: > http://www.adobe.com/prodindex/acrobat/distribute.html#icons > and did not find any statement forbidding me from satisfying > their wishes. > My plan is to provide the Get Acrobat Reader button which the > user will > click and automatically start downloading the Reader. Of course I am > providing them with information on file size, how to download, etc. You may be surprised to know that you can put the Reader installer on your own site with no formality, but that you need permission to include the Get Acrobat Reader button! Aandi __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 17-Nov-1998 19:25:03-GMT,2268;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA00877 for ; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 12:25:02 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA12057; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 13:23:14 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 17 Nov 1998 13:20:46 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA11809; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 13:20:44 -0600 From: bmarsh@seps.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: SEPL To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <882566BF.00697FCF.00@Notesvr.seps.com> Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 11:17:55 -0800 Subject: RE: [PDF] Survey concerning PDF users Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Geoff wrote: >... I don't know what portion of the above complaints is due to the document >being browsed but I do blame the browser. The general feel of the UI is >of a schizophrenic program that can't decide if it's a layout program, a >form interpreter or a "book/article" browser. The survey respondents (and >I) want a good PDF browser. > >Anyone else agree ? Is there any competition ? Anyone want to fund me ? :-) > Personally, I'm convinced that XML and related browser developments will give us the alternative to PDF that we're looking for. It won't be soon enough but it will happen. We've already started migrating content in that direction. Bob Marsh GM, Sony Electronic Publishing __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 17-Nov-1998 20:09:03-GMT,1595;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA01925 for ; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 13:09:01 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA15598; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 14:04:49 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 17 Nov 1998 14:01:40 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA15285; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 14:01:37 -0600 From: Karen_L_Mibus@keybank.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: KEYCORP To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <852566BF.006D93A3.00@keybank.com> Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 14:57:31 -0500 Subject: RE: [PDF] Providing Reader on Web Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Thanks, Aandi! You made my clients ecstatic! --Karen __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 17-Nov-1998 20:33:57-GMT,2267;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA02555 for ; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 13:33:41 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA18285; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 14:33:20 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 17 Nov 1998 14:30:26 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA18060; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 14:30:24 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19981117154057.0085c6f0@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 15:40:57 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] Survey concerning PDF users In-Reply-To: <00ea01be11c3$febdd060$1d0d9fcf@default> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > >Properly designed, an individual should only need a PS printer. Which might be an over-large assumption. >>I am perhaps >not speaking of something that presently exists. But is it impossible to >produce driver/software which would print from Acrobat Reader/Exchange to >produce two 5.5x8.5 pages on one 8.5x11 sheet of paper in portrait >alignment? It shouldn't be impossible at all. If you're willing to switch your dimensions around, you can presently print two letter-portrait sized pages on one letter-landscape page. Steve Rindsberg/Prez RDP http://www.rdpslides.com __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 17-Nov-1998 21:11:18-GMT,2912;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA03488 for ; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 14:10:44 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA21797; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 15:09:41 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 17 Nov 1998 15:06:40 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA21467; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 15:06:37 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19981117160956.007ab980@up.bresnan.net> X-Sender: fosmire@up.bresnan.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 16:09:56 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: "M. Sean Fosmire" Subject: [PDF] Re: Survey concerning PDF users Cc: "Jim and Marguerite Ripley" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Most word processors recognize only certain sizes of paper, and a 5.5 x 8.5 size is not included. Desktop publishing programs may have more flexibility. The Adobe help files are published using a 5 x 5 format, presumably based on FrameMaker. See my sample PDF file at http://www.courts.net/usepdf.pdf for an approach which uses landscape printing, large type, and printing via Fineprint to reach the same goal. >I may be missing something simple in this issue of screen readable vs. paper >preference. Why is it not possible to design a screen page of roughly 5.5 x >8.5 and a print driver which would print two up at 100% on a regular 8.5x11 >piece of paper? > >I have done some experimenting with reprinting a PDF via a PostScript driver >using the two to a page option and refrying the ps file to a new PDF. The >result comes out with two to a page alright, but side by side and reduced to >the point of being unusable. > ====================================================== M. Sean Fosmire fosmire@up.bresnan.net Fosmire Solka & Stenton, P.C. http://www.afss.com Superior Information Services, Inc. http://www.sismich.com/home.htm ====================================================== __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 17-Nov-1998 21:31:52-GMT,3914;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA03998 for ; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 14:31:50 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA23536; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 15:31:03 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 17 Nov 1998 15:28:31 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA23277; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 15:28:28 -0600 Message-ID: <3652774E.38B51548@realworld.com.au> Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 08:29:20 +0100 From: Dean Laffan X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] An easier install procedure for CD-ROMs? References: <697A4CA51395D111A658AA0004005806974AF0@NT6> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Pottinger, Hardy wrote: > The alternative is to provide a hybrid mac/pc (HFS/ISO) CD-ROM, with small > autorun install programs, that would in turn run the Reader + Search > installer, if the users so chose. This is the way to go IMHO. There was a LONG thread on xplatform CD's on this list about 6 months ago, the archives would be full of it.... (Err I mean.... you know what I mean) > > > So, that's what I was aiming for: a hybrid (multiple-partition) CD-ROM, with > both and HFS (Mac) and an ISO volumes. There is a package that Adaptec > makes, called Toast, which will do this on a Mac. There also appears to be a > rather pricey one available for Windows platforms, and finally, there's a > free (currently still in beta) package that will do this in Windows, which > was mentioned in a previous version of this list. In case anyone's > interested in checking that out, the program is Hybridator, and URL is > http://www.macdisk.com. > > However, this is all pretty complicated, and poses a steep learning curve > for me, so, given my time constraints, I am faced with two options: 1) grin > and bear it, use what Adobe provides out of the box, burn an ISO9600 CD-ROM > master, write up the clearest docs I can, and hope for the best; 2) contract > out the job for creating the installs, and mastering the hybrid CD. If you don't forsee needing to do much more of this, it is probably the safest way to go. Mastering is a critical step and if you're going to dupe 500 or 2000 of these little puppies, you don't want to find out that you have overlooked some aspect of the hybridization after duping ! > > > Option 2 is a definite possibility, and I've already been contacted by one > vendor based on my first post to this list. Heads up to any other vendors, > I'm willing to entertain bids. > I was really hoping that someone may have done this before, but I think I > have all the information I need now. I really am at a loss of what direction > to proceed, so I'm leaving that up to my boss (that's what she gets the big > bucks for, right?) :-) > > Thanks for the help. Perhaps this little exchange will help someone else who > marches down this road. Good Luck ! Dean __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 17-Nov-1998 21:31:56-GMT,2604;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA04000 for ; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 14:31:50 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA23541; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 15:31:08 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 17 Nov 1998 15:28:42 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA23327; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 15:28:40 -0600 Message-ID: <021201be1271$05d98b20$1d0d9fcf@default> From: "Jim and Marguerite Ripley" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] Survey concerning PDF users Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 13:27:00 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2120.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2120.0 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Jim Ripley here Yes but ... Word or Frame either one will allow me to choose any page size I want. So a page size of approx. 8.5x5.5 should be the easy part and this will display on screen quite readable with normal sized fonts. I have done this easily as TOC pages for PDF files and they are easily readable and print nicely except only one small page to a 8.5x11 page. But who wants a reduced page side by side in landscape orientation? If this is possible why not 2 up in portrait orientation at 100%? I am not suggesting that this is presently possible but with the right software/drivers this should be a piece of cake. -----Original Message----- From: Steve Rindsberg > >It shouldn't be impossible at all. If you're willing to switch your >dimensions around, you can presently print two letter-portrait sized >pages on one letter-landscape page. > __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 17-Nov-1998 22:18:54-GMT,2306;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA05367 for ; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 15:18:53 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA27066; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 16:17:55 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 17 Nov 1998 16:14:17 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA26842; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 16:14:14 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19981117170047.00855d00@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 17:00:47 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] Survey concerning PDF users In-Reply-To: <021201be1271$05d98b20$1d0d9fcf@default> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > >But who wants a reduced page side by side in landscape orientation? If this >is possible why not 2 up in portrait orientation at 100%? > Pardon ... my lack of 3D imagination seems to be slopping over into the 2D department today. Given your stated assumptions, my "solution" was a bit on the idiotic side, wasn't it? I wonder whether a tool like Quite Imposing might be just the thing, though? It's not something you could distribute, of course, but if you could provide two PDFs, one for onscreen viewing, the other for double-up printing, it might work out well. Steve Rindsberg/Prez RDP http://www.rdpslides.com __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 18-Nov-1998 1:16:21-GMT,2258;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA09432 for ; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 18:16:20 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA05699; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 19:13:35 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 17 Nov 1998 19:09:36 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA05472; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 19:09:33 -0600 Message-ID: <01BE124D.163AB300@CORONA> From: Mike Livingston To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] How are graphics represented? Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 17:09:49 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id TAA05467 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > How does PDF represent graphics? Does it encapsulate the native info, or does it translate the graphics into some other format? I want to use the same source content for two deliverables. One deliverable will be browser-viewable "slides" for projection in a classroom setting; the other will be printed books. I'm thinking at least PDF for the printed books, which raises the question of what graphic format to use. Most of our graphics are annotated screen captures of an interface. I'd like to avoid storing two formats for each graphic. Gotchas? Mike Livingston mlivingston@esri.com __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 18-Nov-1998 6:02:12-GMT,3049;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA15181 for ; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 23:02:11 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA20907; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 23:59:58 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 17 Nov 1998 23:54:34 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA20607; Tue, 17 Nov 1998 23:54:32 -0600 X-Sender: both@pop3.netaccess.co.nz Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <697A4CA51395D111A658AA0004005806974AF0@NT6> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 18:55:49 +1200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: "Andrew R. Both" Subject: [PDF] need help with javascript please Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Hi All I need some help with writing javascript. I'm attempting to convince a manufacturing company to use acrobat as a tool for constructing standardized quote forms . They already have the full suite of Acrobat products and are mac based, so I'm offering an alternative to other particularly Microsoft products. Possibly a 2-3 page device: page 1 client details for a pull down menu with name of client addres etc and any discounts or gratuities as a percentage eg Client: aaa ( non printing 8 % discount on all products) check box Wares bbb ( pulldown menu with bbb wares): quantity, price check box Wares ccc ( pulldown menu with ccc wares) : quantity , price Page 2: client supplied order number client d details list of wares to purchase (price wares bbb price wares ccc ) total price. Please reply off list if desires . I will post the complete script when I get it to work... The individual prices would be generated thru Exchange and the Sales Reps using Reader and the forms plugin to complete the form. Only page 2 with all the selected wares would be printed. the pulldown bbb and ccc have several items to selecet each with individual prices and specs. :)> andrew ___________________________________________________ "Time is a great teacher, but unfortunately it kills all its pupils." Hector Berlioz (1803-1869). French composer. ___________________________________________________ __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 18-Nov-1998 10:11:26-GMT,2715;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA20047 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 03:11:25 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA31701; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 04:10:52 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 18 Nov 1998 04:06:05 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA31471; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 04:06:03 -0600 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] How are graphics represented? Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 09:39:52 -0000 Message-ID: <000001be12da$b58c64c0$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 In-Reply-To: <01BE124D.163AB300@CORONA> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > How does PDF represent graphics? Does it encapsulate the > native info, or does it translate the graphics into some other format? The latter. PDF has its own representation for images, line art, and text. > > I want to use the same source content for two deliverables. > One deliverable will be browser-viewable "slides" for > projection in a classroom setting; the other will be printed > books. I'm thinking at least PDF for the printed books, which > raises the question of what graphic format to use. Most of > our graphics are annotated screen captures of an interface. > I'd like to avoid storing two formats for each graphic. Whatever you do you should keep your originals, pre-PDF, but that's a different issue. You may have a file size issue. A PDF for good quality printing is likely to be at least 4 times larger than one suitable for screen use. Putting that on the internet would be wasteful. Aandi __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 18-Nov-1998 12:34:55-GMT,3860;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA22441 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 05:34:54 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA05170; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 06:34:20 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 18 Nov 1998 06:29:34 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA04837; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 06:29:32 -0600 Message-Id: <199811181229.NAA02210@d1o202.telia.com> Subject: [PDF] Partly PDF , Partly Framemaker . . . Date: Wed, 18 Nov 98 13:29:30 +0100 x-sender: u222600675@m1.2226.telia.com x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: Richard Taubo To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id GAA04833 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Hi! I have a couple of questions about pdf features in Framemaker that could be posted both to the Framemaker list and the PDF list, but I chose the latter -- itŽs the best list ever ;) (sorry if I cause any inconvenience). I am making a catalogue in Framemaker with links to a lot of pdf files -- these files are not originating from Framemaker so I cannot make these links as easily as I otherwise could. Being able to the save the catalogue to both pdf and html is the reason I choose to use Framemaker in this case (One note: If I save the catalogue in html, I will need to change all the references to my pdf files from .htm/.html to .pdf. Framemaker use the extension of the saved file (.htm/.html) when trying to link to my pdf files -- this is not a big issue though, as it can be easily fixed in a text editor by replacing .htm/.html with .pdf). And now to my questions: Today I have chosen to link to my pdf files in the Framemaker document using the Hypertext command: "Jump to Named Destination" with the syntax: "gotolink MyPDFfile:1". MyPDFfile is the file of a given pdf file, 1 is the linkname. I just put 1 as the linkname because I am asked to provide a linkname, it does not seem to matter which number or name I use for this name -- I have not made any named destinations in the pdf files. Now I wonder: a) Is there a problem using a random linkname in this case? b) Are there any better ways of linking to pdf documents from Framemaker? (when I do not have the original files from where the pdf files are made) c) Is it possible to link to a specific page/place in a pdf document from Framemaker without having to make/save named destinations in each of the pdf documents (are there any generic tags/marks in the pdf file that I can use for this purpose)? BTW I have tried my linking-method and have gotten both a fine html and pdf "pilot" catalogue with working links. I am not able to check my links directly in Framemaker this way, though, as Framemaker will not open other programs using the chosen hypertext command. Thanks for any help! Best Regards Richard Taubo Bergersen ltd. -- Oslo, Norway __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 18-Nov-1998 15:26:08-GMT,2380;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA25788 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 08:26:07 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA16328; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 09:25:34 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 18 Nov 1998 09:20:05 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA15831; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 09:20:01 -0600 Message-ID: <3652E6DE.A9FEAC84@i2000.es> Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 16:25:18 +0100 From: Alvaro de la Hera Martinez X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [es] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Scan tools Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Hello, I need a scan software which can do the following process: 1. Scan the document. 2. Extract the bar code that the documents has. 3. Store the scanned document in TIFF format using the value of the barcode as name of the file. This process must to be performed for each document, and the number of documents to be scanned is about 6.000 each day. Does anyone know a software that can do that ? Thanks in advanced. -- A H | A H | Interlinea2000 Comunicaciones, S.A. AAAAHHHHMMMM | Kaskotegi 4, bajo A A M M | 20.305 Irun (Spain) AAAA M | Telephone: 34-43-619101 | Fax: 34-43-618159 Alvaro de la Hera Martinez | __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 18-Nov-1998 18:26:39-GMT,1905;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA00609 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 11:26:38 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA00576; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 12:22:08 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 18 Nov 1998 12:16:39 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA00068; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 12:16:37 -0600 From: robert.richard@hrdc-drhc.gc.ca Date: Wed, 18 Nov 98 13:11:12 -0500 Message-ID: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) To: Subject: [PDF] TranZform by Vertec Solutions Inc. X-Incognito-SN: 1396 X-Incognito-Version: 4.11.23 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > I would like to contact above company, but unable to find phone number or even web site. Thanks in advance for information. Robert Richard ___________________________ Human Resources Development-Canada (Canadian Federal Government) Employment Insurance Telecentre 1735 Bathurst, New Brunswick Canada. __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 18-Nov-1998 19:04:05-GMT,1675;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA01586 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 12:03:50 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA02806; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 12:47:11 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 18 Nov 1998 12:41:41 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA02206; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 12:41:37 -0600 Message-Id: <199811181842.NAA06835@thetube.tube.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.01 (295) Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 13:43:09 -0500 Subject: Re: [PDF] TranZform by Vertec Solutions Inc. From: "Shane Steinman" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > http://www.vertec.com/ __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 18-Nov-1998 19:15:01-GMT,2291;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA01893 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 12:15:00 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA05898; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 13:14:11 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 18 Nov 1998 13:11:29 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA05585; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 13:11:26 -0600 From: robert.richard@hrdc-drhc.gc.ca Date: Wed, 18 Nov 98 13:53:55 -0500 Message-ID: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) To: Subject: [PDF] TranZform by VerTec Solutions Inc. X-Incognito-SN: 1396 X-Incognito-Version: 4.11.23 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > I have visited http://www.vertec.com as suggested by subscriber in pdfzone list, but It brought me to a company that specializes in military and nuclear technologies. I am looking for a plug-in that would help me create forms to be used with Adobe Acrobat 3.01. By reading previous archive messages at pdf.zone, I was able to determine that VerTec Solutions Inc. offered a plug-in called TranZform. I should had been alot more detailed in my request for information. Thanks again for responding to my inquirie. Robert Richard ____________________ Human Resources Development-Canada (Canadian Federal Government) Employment Insurance Telecentre 1735 Bathurst, New Brunswick Canada. __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 18-Nov-1998 19:57:55-GMT,2043;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA02942 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 12:57:54 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA09402; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 13:50:08 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 18 Nov 1998 13:47:06 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA09086; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 13:47:03 -0600 Message-ID: <01BE12E9.29DD1FF0@CORONA> From: Mike Livingston To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] How are graphics represented? Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 11:47:04 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id NAA09075 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Thanks for the info about PDF storing its own representation of images, line art, and text. Next question: If PDF stores its own representation of images, are there drawbacks associated with maintaining the original images in GIF or JPG format considering that one use will be to distill the image-rich doc to PDF for printed books? Mike Livingston mlivingston@esri.com __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 18-Nov-1998 20:08:35-GMT,2534;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA03217 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 13:08:34 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA10815; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 14:07:14 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 18 Nov 1998 14:04:43 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA10598; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 14:04:42 -0600 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] How are graphics represented? Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 19:57:26 -0000 Message-ID: <000901be132e$56a79840$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <01BE12E9.29DD1FF0@CORONA> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > Thanks for the info about PDF storing its own representation > of images, line art, and text. > > Next question: If PDF stores its own representation of > images, are there drawbacks associated with maintaining the > original images in GIF or JPG format considering that one use > will be to distill the image-rich doc to PDF for printed books? Not sure I understand the question. You should always preserve the original material - all graphics, word processing files etc. because you will need them if you ever want to regenerate the PDF after a change. Or, do you mean, what are the drawbacks of using GIF or JPEG as your original, compared to other formats? That depends on exactly what kind of original you are talking about. Aandi __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 18-Nov-1998 20:29:33-GMT,2480;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA03702 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 13:29:27 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA11984; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 14:16:46 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 18 Nov 1998 14:15:36 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA11855; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 14:15:31 -0600 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] TranZform by VerTec Solutions Inc. Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 20:12:28 -0000 Message-ID: <000e01be132f$d615dbe0$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > I have visited http://www.vertec.com as suggested by > subscriber in pdfzone > list, but It brought me to a company that specializes in military and > nuclear technologies. Vertec is no longer in business. > > I am looking for a plug-in that would help me create forms to > be used with > Adobe Acrobat 3.01. By reading previous archive messages at > pdf.zone, I was > able to determine that VerTec Solutions Inc. offered a plug-in called > TranZform. Tranzform created forms for Acrobat 2.1 only. Perhaps you aren't aware that Acrobat 3.0 includes form creation facilities right out of the box? The first and last facts in the reply may be connected. Aandi __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 18-Nov-1998 20:35:06-GMT,2594;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA03839 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 13:35:04 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA13188; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 14:25:58 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 18 Nov 1998 14:24:39 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA13056; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 14:24:36 -0600 Message-ID: <697A4CA51395D111A658AA0004005806974B0B@NT6> From: "Pottinger, Hardy" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: Re: [PDF] An easier install procedure for CD-ROMs? Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 14:24:26 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > >This is the way to go IMHO. There was a LONG thread on xplatform CD's on this >list about 6 months ago, the archives would be full of it.... (Err I mean.... >you know what I mean) Actually, based on some input I'm getting from some other folks, I'm leaning towards my original idea, which is to just burn an ISO CD-ROM. The idea of going through all this trouble just for an autorun procedure, when I absolutely detest autorun, bugs me. Add to that the fact that using the ISO standard gives me a simple CD-ROM that is readable on any machine, and I can make it without buying/learning any more software, or hiring any consultants to handle the job... I'm sold. The people who get this disk are scientists. They should be able to figure out how to install Acrobat Reader, if they don't already have it installed. I wish the process of creating a hybrid CD were easier, or else ISO was more functional. Maybe someday we'll have a standard that everyone will agree to actually use, eh? __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 18-Nov-1998 20:43:07-GMT,3644;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA04052 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 13:43:06 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA14971; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 14:41:09 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 18 Nov 1998 14:39:42 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA14812; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 14:39:39 -0600 From: robert.richard@hrdc-drhc.gc.ca Date: Wed, 18 Nov 98 15:18:41 -0500 Message-ID: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) To: Subject: RE: [PDF] TranZform by VerTec Solutions Inc. X-Incognito-SN: 1396 X-Incognito-Version: 4.11.23 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Thanks for reply, We currently have all of our office profiles, telephone directories and procedure manuals in pdf files. All agents (30) in our telecentre are able to access these files through Acrobat Reader 3.01 and navigate using the invisible links. The resource was created solely with Microsoft Word 6.0 and then printed in Acrobat 3.01. Now, we want to add forms to this resource. Adobe Acrobat Forms 3.01 can create all type of fields in the pdf forms located in our resource, but Acrobat Reader does not permit our agents to export the forms/datas to local hard drive or to other sources. Would the only solution be to print a paper copy and submited manually? Robert Richard ________________________________________ Human Resources Development-Canada (Canadian Federal Government) Employment Insurance Telecentre 1735 Bathurst, New Brunswick Canada. ------------- Original Text From: "Aandi Inston" , on 11/18/98 4:12 PM: < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > I have visited http://www.vertec.com as suggested by > subscriber in pdfzone > list, but It brought me to a company that specializes in military and > nuclear technologies. Vertec is no longer in business. > > I am looking for a plug-in that would help me create forms to > be used with > Adobe Acrobat 3.01. By reading previous archive messages at > pdf.zone, I was > able to determine that VerTec Solutions Inc. offered a plug-in called > TranZform. Tranzform created forms for Acrobat 2.1 only. Perhaps you aren't aware that Acrobat 3.0 includes form creation facilities right out of the box? The first and last facts in the reply may be connected. Aandi __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ u __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 18-Nov-1998 20:53:52-GMT,4933;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA04312 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 13:53:51 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA16306; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 14:52:42 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 18 Nov 1998 14:51:04 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA16155; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 14:51:02 -0600 Message-ID: <016901be1334$e8c36820$b2c314d1@Prometheus.main> From: "Ian Lurie" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] TranZform by VerTec Solutions Inc. Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 12:49:13 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Robert, You could connect the PDF forms to a database, using an Intranet. Please visit http://www.writtenword.com/pdfconnect to see how my firm does this, or visit http://www.writtenword.com/acrobatforms for a more instructional demonstration. Ian Lurie The Written Word, Inc. Information Design Online, On Paper, and On the Web email: ian@writtenword.com web: www.writtenword.com "Vox audita perit, litera scripta manet" The spoken word perishes, the written word remains -----Original Message----- From: robert.richard@hrdc-drhc.gc.ca To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: Wednesday, November 18, 1998 12:46 PM Subject: RE: [PDF] TranZform by VerTec Solutions Inc. > >< ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > >Thanks for reply, > >We currently have all of our office profiles, telephone directories and >procedure manuals in pdf files. All agents (30) in our telecentre are able >to access these files through Acrobat Reader 3.01 and navigate using the >invisible links. The resource was created solely with Microsoft Word 6.0 >and then printed in Acrobat 3.01. Now, we want to add forms to this >resource. Adobe Acrobat Forms 3.01 can create all type of fields in the pdf >forms located in our resource, but Acrobat Reader does not permit our >agents to export the forms/datas to local hard drive or to other sources. >Would the only solution be to print a paper copy and submited manually? > >Robert Richard > ________________________________________ >Human Resources Development-Canada (Canadian Federal Government) >Employment Insurance Telecentre 1735 >Bathurst, New Brunswick >Canada. >------------- >Original Text >From: "Aandi Inston" , on 11/18/98 4:12 PM: >< ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > > >> I have visited http://www.vertec.com as suggested by >> subscriber in pdfzone >> list, but It brought me to a company that specializes in military and >> nuclear technologies. > >Vertec is no longer in business. >> >> I am looking for a plug-in that would help me create forms to >> be used with >> Adobe Acrobat 3.01. By reading previous archive messages at >> pdf.zone, I was >> able to determine that VerTec Solutions Inc. offered a plug-in called >> TranZform. > >Tranzform created forms for Acrobat 2.1 only. >Perhaps you aren't aware that Acrobat 3.0 includes form creation >facilities right out of the box? > >The first and last facts in the reply may be connected. > >Aandi > >__________________________________________________________________ > >PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" > >@ PDF Showcase: >__________________________________________________________________ > >u > > >__________________________________________________________________ > >PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" > >@ PDF Showcase: >__________________________________________________________________ > > __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 18-Nov-1998 21:07:13-GMT,5984;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA04616 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 14:07:12 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA17400; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 15:02:37 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 18 Nov 1998 15:01:24 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA17265; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 15:01:23 -0600 Message-ID: <01BE12F3.8B6BC000@CORONA> From: Mike Livingston To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] How are graphics represented? Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 13:01:15 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="---- =_NextPart_000_01BE12F3.8B6BC000" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > ------ =_NextPart_000_01BE12F3.8B6BC000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Regarding my question about drawbacks to using GIF or JPEG as my format = for graphics that will later be distilled to PDF for printing, Aandi = wrote: Not sure I understand the question. You should always preserve the original material - all graphics, word processing files etc. because you will need them if you ever want to regenerate the PDF after a change. Or, do you mean, what are the drawbacks of using GIF or JPEG as your original, compared to other formats? That depends on exactly what kind of original you are talking about. The latter. I will need to have graphics for use in the web-ready docs, = so at least these will need to be GIF or JPEG. Will there be a problem = using the same graphics files in the printed books? About half of our = graphics are annotated screen captures of our software interface; the = other half is line art. Thanks for help. 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The URL is: http://plutonium-erl.actx.edu __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 18-Nov-1998 21:37:10-GMT,3271;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA05332 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 14:36:55 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA20916; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 15:33:19 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 18 Nov 1998 15:31:38 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA20699; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 15:31:35 -0600 Message-ID: <36533C82.BB96C503@infogrp.com> Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 16:30:42 -0500 From: "Chris Curley" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: PDF Mailing List Subject: [PDF] Distiller Assistant and Windows 98 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Hi all,

I've just switched to a new machine with Windows 98.  I'm calling it a switch and not an upgrade at this point because 98 seems to be a bit buggy!  Anyway, I've installed Acrobat 3.01 and everything seemed to be OK till I tried to configure Distiller Assistant to use the AdobePS 4.1 driver.  You see, Windows 98 doesn't seem to have the PSCRIPT.DRV driver that Acrobat needs to create the \Distasst.ps printer port that AdobePS 4.1 uses.

Sooooooooo, I grabbed the PSCRIPT.DRV file from my old 95 machine and installed Acrobat.  The \Distasst.ps port was there for me to select when I installed the AdobePS 4.1 driver, and everything seemed to be OK.  Nope.  When I try to distill a Word file using Distiller Assistant, I get the following error:

Error writing to \Distasst.ps for the printer (Distiller Assistant  [AdobePS]);  There was a problem printing to the network resource.  Check to make sure the printer server is working properly, and try printing again.
Interesting, because the Distiller Assistant printer is not defined as a network printer.  I don't know why a network resource is involved here.  Is using the PSCRIPT.DRV driver from Windows 95 the root cause of this? Using PDFwriter works fine, but I need to distill my Word files because I've found that distilling does a better job with my screen-capture, bitmap-laden files for a software manual.

Any help is hugely appreciated!

Chris Curley
Technical Writer
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References: <697A4CA51395D111A658AA0004005806974B0B@NT6> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Pottinger, Hardy wrote: > > > Actually, based on some input I'm getting from some other folks, I'm leaning > towards my original idea, which is to just burn an ISO CD-ROM. The idea of > going through all this trouble just for an autorun procedure, when I > absolutely detest autorun, bugs me. I guess I'm used to working on the Mac where it's a piece of cake.Drop one volume on the hard drive drop one on an external, a Jazz, I've even burnt from a ZIP, and off you go. > Add to that the fact that using the ISO > standard gives me a simple CD-ROM that is readable on any machine, and I can > make it without buying/learning any more software, or hiring any consultants > to handle the job... I'm sold. As long as with your ISO you're happy for your Mac clients to see a collection of non-pdf icons , instead they get generic icons with cap letters PC in the document. Also to my knowledge you can't burn an ISO disc that will work in W'95, W3.x and Mac. W3.1 needs 8.3 which screws the mac installer and if you burn ISO Joliet (extended naming, you screw W3.1) Anyone out there jump in if I have got this wrong. > > > The people who get this disk are scientists. They should be able to figure > out how to install Acrobat Reader, if they don't already have it installed. > > I wish the process of creating a hybrid CD were easier, or else ISO was more > functional. Maybe someday we'll have a standard that everyone will agree to > actually use, eh? I'm sure Bill would love that ! Dean __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 18-Nov-1998 21:47:36-GMT,7939;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA05631 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 14:47:29 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA22498; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 15:45:48 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 18 Nov 1998 15:44:16 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA22260; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 15:44:13 -0600 X-Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated X-Division: Core Technology X-Department: Product Interoperability Analysis X-URL: Message-Id: <4.1.19981118133719.00b83240@mail-303> X-Sender: isaacs@mail-303 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 X-Priority: 2 (High) Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 13:43:26 -0800 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com, "Chris Curley" From: Dov Isaacs Subject: Re: [PDF] Distiller Assistant and Windows 98 In-Reply-To: <36533C82.BB96C503@infogrp.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=====================_17947098==_.ALT" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > --=====================_17947098==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Repeated from many, many, many, many postings to this and other lists. You absolutely DON'T want to use PSCRIPT as the driver to create PostScript for the Distiller. Ditch it! Although Acrobat claims that it needs that driver for the Distiller Assistant, it doesn't. Just manually associate a printer instance created by the AdobePS 4.2.4 setup program with the \DISTASST.PS port. Also, an undocumented problems / hint. If you are connected to a network or a system with multiple partitions for that matter, using the \DISTASST.PS port may mean that the driver puts (or attempts to put) your PostScript output on a write-protected network drive at the root level. Distiller Assistant looks for a file by the name of \DISTASST.PS on any and all mapped drives. Thus, it is better to create a port by the name of X:\DISTASST.PS (where "X" is the drive letter you want those temporary files to go to) and associate the printer with that port as opposed to the port without the drive letter. (You can easily create the modified port by editing the "C:\WINDOWS\WIN.INI" file and replacing "\DISTASST.PS" with "X:\DISTASST.PS" and rebooting!) - Dov At 11/18/98 01:30 PM , you wrote: > >> >> Hi all, >> >> I've just switched to a new machine with Windows 98. I'm calling it a >> switch and not an upgrade at this point because 98 seems to be a bit buggy! >> Anyway, I've installed Acrobat 3.01 and everything seemed to be OK till I >> tried to configure Distiller Assistant to use the AdobePS 4.1 driver. You >> see, Windows 98 doesn't seem to have the PSCRIPT.DRV driver that Acrobat >> needs to create the \Distasst.ps printer port that AdobePS 4.1 uses. >> >> Sooooooooo, I grabbed the PSCRIPT.DRV file from my old 95 machine and >> installed Acrobat. The \Distasst.ps port was there for me to select when I >> installed the AdobePS 4.1 driver, and everything seemed to be OK. Nope. >> When I try to distill a Word file using Distiller Assistant, I get the >> following error: >> Error writing to \Distasst.ps for the printer (Distiller Assistant >> [AdobePS]); There was a problem printing to the network resource. Check to >> make sure the printer server is working properly, and try printing again. >> >> Interesting, because the Distiller Assistant printer is not defined as a >> network printer. I don't know why a network resource is involved here. Is >> using the PSCRIPT.DRV driver from Windows 95 the root cause of this? Using >> PDFwriter works fine, but I need to distill my Word files because I've found >> that distilling does a better job with my screen-capture, bitmap-laden files >> for a software manual. >> >> Any help is hugely appreciated! >> >> Chris Curley >> Technical Writer >> The Info Group, Inc. > > --=====================_17947098==_.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Repeated from many, many, many, many postings to this and
other lists. You absolutely DON'T want to use PSCRIPT as
the driver to create PostScript for the Distiller. Ditch it!
Although Acrobat claims that it needs that driver for the
Distiller Assistant, it doesn't. Just manually associate
a printer instance created by the AdobePS 4.2.4 setup program
with the \DISTASST.PS port.

Also, an undocumented problems / hint. If you are connected
to a network or a system with multiple partitions for that matter,
using the \DISTASST.PS port may mean that the driver puts (or
attempts to put) your PostScript output on a write-protected
network drive at the root level. Distiller Assistant looks for
a file by the name of \DISTASST.PS on any and all mapped drives.
Thus, it is better to create a port by the name of X:\DISTASST.PS
(where "X" is the drive letter you want those temporary files to
go to) and associate the printer with that port as opposed to
the port without the drive letter. (You can easily create the modified
port by editing the "C:\WINDOWS\WIN.INI" file and replacing "\DISTASST.PS"
with "X:\DISTASST.PS" and rebooting!)

        - Dov



At 11/18/98 01:30 PM , you wrote:

Hi all,

I've just switched to a new machine with Windows 98.  I'm calling it a switch and not an upgrade at this point because 98 seems to be a bit buggy!  Anyway, I've installed Acrobat 3.01 and everything seemed to be OK till I tried to configure Distiller Assistant to use the AdobePS 4.1 driver.  You see, Windows 98 doesn't seem to have the PSCRIPT.DRV driver that Acrobat needs to create the \Distasst.ps printer port that AdobePS 4.1 uses.

Sooooooooo, I grabbed the PSCRIPT.DRV file from my old 95 machine and installed Acrobat.  The \Distasst.ps port was there for me to select when I installed the AdobePS 4.1 driver, and everything seemed to be OK.  Nope.  When I try to distill a Word file using Distiller Assistant, I get the following error:
Error writing to \Distasst.ps for the printer (Distiller Assistant  [AdobePS]);  There was a problem printing to the network resource.  Check to make sure the printer server is working properly, and try printing again.

Interesting, because the Distiller Assistant printer is not defined as a network printer.  I don't know why a network resource is involved here.  Is using the PSCRIPT.DRV driver from Windows 95 the root cause of this? Using PDFwriter works fine, but I need to distill my Word files because I've found that distilling does a better job with my screen-capture, bitmap-laden files for a software manual.

Any help is hugely appreciated!

Chris Curley
Technical Writer
The Info Group, Inc.

--=====================_17947098==_.ALT-- __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 18-Nov-1998 21:55:13-GMT,2235;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA05801 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 14:55:12 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA23221; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 15:53:32 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 18 Nov 1998 15:51:58 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA22999; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 15:51:57 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19981118170235.0082be70@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 17:02:35 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: RE: [PDF] How are graphics represented? In-Reply-To: <01BE12E9.29DD1FF0@CORONA> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > >Next question: If PDF stores its own representation of images, are there drawbacks associated with maintaining the original images in GIF or JPG format considering that one use will be to distill the image-rich doc to PDF for printed books? > GIF is limited to 256 colors. If you're storing screenshots captured at 256 colors or less, no problem. For contone photos, I'd use some other format. JPEG would depend on compression settings. Going for high compression might give you low quality printed results. Steve Rindsberg/Prez RDP http://www.rdpslides.com __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 18-Nov-1998 22:10:50-GMT,2194;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA06242 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 15:10:49 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA24706; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 16:07:42 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 18 Nov 1998 16:06:19 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA24597; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 16:06:17 -0600 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19981118220644.00da1cbc@env-sol.com> X-Sender: thiersch@env-sol.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 14:06:44 -0800 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Tom Thiersch Subject: Re: [PDF] Distiller Assistant and Windows 98 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Dov, What is the equivalent procedure for this on NT? i.e., which Registry Key(s) must be altered? Thx!!! Tom Thiersch At 01:43 PM 11/18/98 -0800, you wrote: >... >Thus, it is better to create a port by the name of X:\DISTASST.PS >(where "X" is the drive letter you want those temporary files to >go to) and associate the printer with that port as opposed to >the port without the drive letter. (You can easily create the modified >port by editing the "C:\WINDOWS\WIN.INI" file and replacing "\DISTASST.PS" >with "X:\DISTASST.PS" and rebooting!) > > - Dov > __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 18-Nov-1998 22:11:18-GMT,2851;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA06267 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 15:11:17 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA25061; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 16:09:46 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 18 Nov 1998 16:08:37 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA24812; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 16:08:35 -0600 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] TranZform by VerTec Solutions Inc. Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 21:54:37 -0000 Message-ID: <001801be133f$a1687f00$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > We currently have all of our office profiles, telephone > directories and > procedure manuals in pdf files. All agents (30) in our > telecentre are able > to access these files through Acrobat Reader 3.01 and > navigate using the > invisible links. The resource was created solely with > Microsoft Word 6.0 > and then printed in Acrobat 3.01. Now, we want to add forms to this > resource. Adobe Acrobat Forms 3.01 can create all type of > fields in the pdf > forms located in our resource, but Acrobat Reader does not permit our > agents to export the forms/datas to local hard drive or to > other sources. > Would the only solution be to print a paper copy and submited > manually? No, your agents can purchase Acrobat Exchange. No product is available, or can be written, to allow forms to be exported from the free Reader. This is a deliberate restriction put there by Adobe, who like to sell copies of Exchange. It is pretty cheap in bulk. Reader can print filled-in forms, and it can submit them to a web server. Aandi __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 18-Nov-1998 22:11:44-GMT,2270;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA06279 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 15:11:29 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA25064; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 16:09:47 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 18 Nov 1998 16:08:38 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA24818; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 16:08:36 -0600 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Distiller Assistant and Windows 98 Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 22:05:21 -0000 Message-ID: <001a01be133f$a4743860$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <36533C82.BB96C503@infogrp.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > You see, Windows 98 doesn't seem to have the PSCRIPT.DRV driver > that Acrobat needs to create the \Distasst.ps printer port that > AdobePS 4.1 uses. Yes it does. You just have to install it, in the usual way - printers control panel. Just the same as Windows 95. > Sooooooooo, I grabbed the PSCRIPT.DRV file from my old 95 machine > and installed Acrobat. You don't install a driver just by copying a file. That's probably the root of your difficulties. Aandi __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 18-Nov-1998 22:11:45-GMT,3029;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA06291 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 15:11:44 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA25052; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 16:09:43 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 18 Nov 1998 16:08:34 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA24786; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 16:08:32 -0600 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] How are graphics represented? Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 22:02:44 -0000 Message-ID: <001901be133f$a30c1ce0$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <000001be12da$b58c64c0$0101c6c0@gateway> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > I will need to have graphics for use in the > web-ready docs, so at least these will need to be GIF or > JPEG. Will there be a problem using the same graphics files > in the printed books? About half of our graphics are > annotated screen captures of our software interface; the > other half is line art. Neither of these is an ideal file format; of course for the web you have no choice but to pick one or the other. The main limitations of GIF are 1. GIF is limited to 256 colours at most, so it is a poor choice for photos or continuous tone 2. GIF contains no resolution information, so it can be hard to get it to hold a size. The main limitations of JPEG are 1. It can only be used for full colour (24-bit or 32-bit) or greyscale (8-bit) images. 2. It is lossy, so small changes to the picture may occur. These are designed to be not too noticeable on a photo, but will be poor on other kinds of material. Of the two, GIF is the only choice for screen shots and line art. I'd be inclined to consider both GIF and PDF as final formats and hold the original as TIFF; but I don't think you will go too far wrong with GIF. Be aware that getting good screen shots in a PDF file can be tremendously difficult. Aandi __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 18-Nov-1998 22:15:50-GMT,5081;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA06403 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 15:15:49 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA25558; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 16:14:06 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 18 Nov 1998 16:12:52 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA25397; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 16:12:50 -0600 Message-ID: <3653462C.BE975621@infogrp.com> Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 17:11:56 -0500 From: "Chris Curley" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Distiller Assistant and Windows 98 References: <4.1.19981118133719.00b83240@mail-303> Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Thanks Dov,

Next question......the Adobe website says the following about the AdobePS 4.2.4 

"This printer driver is not for owners of non-PostScript printers."
I am the proud owner of a PCL printer, for which I needed the ar301ra.exe patch for PCL printing.  Will upgrading to 4.2.4 affect my PCL printing?

Dov Isaacs wrote:

 Repeated from many, many, many, many postings to this and
other lists. You absolutely DON'T want to use PSCRIPT as
the driver to create PostScript for the Distiller. Ditch it!
Although Acrobat claims that it needs that driver for the
Distiller Assistant, it doesn't. Just manually associate
a printer instance created by the AdobePS 4.2.4 setup program
with the \DISTASST.PS port.

Also, an undocumented problems / hint. If you are connected
to a network or a system with multiple partitions for that matter,
using the \DISTASST.PS port may mean that the driver puts (or
attempts to put) your PostScript output on a write-protected
network drive at the root level. Distiller Assistant looks for
a file by the name of \DISTASST.PS on any and all mapped drives.
Thus, it is better to create a port by the name of X:\DISTASST.PS
(where "X" is the drive letter you want those temporary files to
go to) and associate the printer with that port as opposed to
the port without the drive letter. (You can easily create the modified
port by editing the "C:\WINDOWS\WIN.INI" file and replacing "\DISTASST.PS"
with "X:\DISTASST.PS" and rebooting!)

- Dov
 
 

At 11/18/98 01:30 PM , you wrote:

Hi all,

I've just switched to a new machine with Windows 98.  I'm calling it a switch and not an upgrade at this point because 98 seems to be a bit buggy!  Anyway, I've installed Acrobat 3.01 and everything seemed to be OK till I tried to configure Distiller Assistant to use the AdobePS 4.1 driver.  You see, Windows 98 doesn't seem to have the PSCRIPT.DRV driver that Acrobat needs to create the \Distasst.ps printer port that AdobePS 4.1 uses.

Sooooooooo, I grabbed the PSCRIPT.DRV file from my old 95 machine and installed Acrobat.  The \Distasst.ps port was there for me to select when I installed the AdobePS 4.1 driver, and everything seemed to be OK.  Nope.  When I try to distill a Word file using Distiller Assistant, I get the following error:

Error writing to \Distasst.ps for the printer (Distiller Assistant  [AdobePS]);  There was a problem printing to the network resource.  Check to make sure the printer server is working properly, and try printing again.

 
Interesting, because the Distiller Assistant printer is not defined as a network printer.  I don't know why a network resource is involved here.  Is using the PSCRIPT.DRV driver from Windows 95 the root cause of this? Using PDFwriter works fine, but I need to distill my Word files because I've found that distilling does a better job with my screen-capture, bitmap-laden files for a software manual.

Any help is hugely appreciated!

Chris Curley
Technical Writer
The Info Group, Inc.

__________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 18-Nov-1998 22:22:35-GMT,2914;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA06608 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 15:22:33 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA26350; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 16:21:30 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 18 Nov 1998 16:20:01 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA26208; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 16:19:59 -0600 X-Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated X-Division: Core Technology X-Department: Product Interoperability Analysis X-URL: Message-Id: <4.1.19981118141724.00b8db30@mail-303> X-Sender: isaacs@mail-303 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 14:19:40 -0800 To: Tom Thiersch From: Dov Isaacs Subject: Re: [PDF] Distiller Assistant and Windows 98 Cc: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com In-Reply-To: <2.2.32.19981118220644.00da1cbc@env-sol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Actually, it is a lot easier than what I outlined below for both Windows NT and for Windows'9X. For the printer instance use the "Add Port" feature and create a local port by the name of "X:\DISTASST.PS". It should take immediately. I guess that I am just too used to hacking .ini files from the Win 3.x days. 8-)> - Dov At 11/18/98 02:06 PM , Tom Thiersch wrote: > >< ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > >Dov, > >What is the equivalent procedure for this on NT? i.e., which Registry >Key(s) must be altered? > >Thx!!! > >Tom Thiersch > > > >At 01:43 PM 11/18/98 -0800, you wrote: >>... >>Thus, it is better to create a port by the name of X:\DISTASST.PS >>(where "X" is the drive letter you want those temporary files to >>go to) and associate the printer with that port as opposed to >>the port without the drive letter. (You can easily create the modified >>port by editing the "C:\WINDOWS\WIN.INI" file and replacing "\DISTASST.PS" >>with "X:\DISTASST.PS" and rebooting!) >> >> - Dov __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 18-Nov-1998 22:26:51-GMT,9864;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA06742 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 15:26:36 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA26839; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 16:25:44 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 18 Nov 1998 16:24:38 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA26688; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 16:24:36 -0600 X-Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated X-Division: Core Technology X-Department: Product Interoperability Analysis X-URL: Message-Id: <4.1.19981118142121.00b841e0@mail-303> X-Sender: isaacs@mail-303 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 14:24:11 -0800 To: "Chris Curley" From: Dov Isaacs Subject: Re: [PDF] Distiller Assistant and Windows 98 Cc: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com In-Reply-To: <3653462C.BE975621@infogrp.com> References: <4.1.19981118133719.00b83240@mail-303> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=====================_20391751==_.ALT" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > --=====================_20391751==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" The AdobePS 4.2.4 driver is kosher for Adobe Acrobat Distiller which is effectively an Adobe PostScript printer implementation. Changing a PostScript driver should have absolutely no effect on your PCL printing other than making you want to print using PostScript even more! 8-)> - Dov At 11/18/98 02:11 PM , Chris Curley wrote: > >> >> Thanks Dov, >> >> Next question......the Adobe website says the following about the AdobePS >> 4.2.4 >> "This printer driver is not for owners of non-PostScript printers." >> >> I am the proud owner of a PCL printer, for which I needed the ar301ra.exe >> patch for PCL printing. Will upgrading to 4.2.4 affect my PCL printing? >> >> Dov Isaacs wrote: >>> >>> Repeated from many, many, many, many postings to this and >>> other lists. You absolutely DON'T want to use PSCRIPT as >>> the driver to create PostScript for the Distiller. Ditch it! >>> Although Acrobat claims that it needs that driver for the >>> Distiller Assistant, it doesn't. Just manually associate >>> a printer instance created by the AdobePS 4.2.4 setup program >>> with the \DISTASST.PS port. >>> >>> Also, an undocumented problems / hint. If you are connected >>> to a network or a system with multiple partitions for that matter, >>> using the \DISTASST.PS port may mean that the driver puts (or >>> attempts to put) your PostScript output on a write-protected >>> network drive at the root level. Distiller Assistant looks for >>> a file by the name of \DISTASST.PS on any and all mapped drives. >>> Thus, it is better to create a port by the name of X:\DISTASST.PS >>> (where "X" is the drive letter you want those temporary files to >>> go to) and associate the printer with that port as opposed to >>> the port without the drive letter. (You can easily create the modified >>> port by editing the "C:\WINDOWS\WIN.INI" file and replacing "\DISTASST.PS" >>> with "X:\DISTASST.PS" and rebooting!) >>> >>> - Dov >>> >>> >>> >>> At 11/18/98 01:30 PM , you wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> I've just switched to a new machine with Windows 98. I'm calling it a >>>> switch and not an upgrade at this point because 98 seems to be a bit >>>> buggy! Anyway, I've installed Acrobat 3.01 and everything seemed to be OK >>>> till I tried to configure Distiller Assistant to use the AdobePS 4.1 >>>> driver. You see, Windows 98 doesn't seem to have the PSCRIPT.DRV driver >>>> that Acrobat needs to create the \Distasst.ps printer port that AdobePS >>>> 4.1 uses. >>>> >>>> Sooooooooo, I grabbed the PSCRIPT.DRV file from my old 95 machine and >>>> installed Acrobat. The \Distasst.ps port was there for me to select when >>>> I installed the AdobePS 4.1 driver, and everything seemed to be OK. >>>> Nope. When I try to distill a Word file using Distiller Assistant, I get >>>> the following error: >>>> Error writing to \Distasst.ps for the printer (Distiller Assistant >>>> [AdobePS]); There was a problem printing to the network resource. Check >>>> to make sure the printer server is working properly, and try printing >>>> again. >>>> >>>> >>>> Interesting, because the Distiller Assistant printer is not defined as a >>>> network printer. I don't know why a network resource is involved here. >>>> Is using the PSCRIPT.DRV driver from Windows 95 the root cause of this? >>>> Using PDFwriter works fine, but I need to distill my Word files because >>>> I've found that distilling does a better job with my screen-capture, >>>> bitmap-laden files for a software manual. >>>> >>>> Any help is hugely appreciated! >>>> >>>> Chris Curley >>>> Technical Writer >>>> The Info Group, Inc. >>> >> > --=====================_20391751==_.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" The AdobePS 4.2.4 driver is kosher for Adobe Acrobat Distiller which
is effectively an Adobe PostScript printer implementation.

Changing a PostScript driver should have absolutely no effect on your
PCL printing other than making you want to print using PostScript even
more!  8-)>

        - Dov

At 11/18/98 02:11 PM , Chris Curley wrote:
Thanks Dov,

Next question......the Adobe website says the following about the AdobePS 4.2.4 
"This printer driver is not for owners of non-PostScript printers."

I am the proud owner of a PCL printer, for which I needed the ar301ra.exe patch for PCL printing.  Will upgrading to 4.2.4 affect my PCL printing?

Dov Isaacs wrote:
 Repeated from many, many, many, many postings to this and
other lists. You absolutely DON'T want to use PSCRIPT as
the driver to create PostScript for the Distiller. Ditch it!
Although Acrobat claims that it needs that driver for the
Distiller Assistant, it doesn't. Just manually associate
a printer instance created by the AdobePS 4.2.4 setup program
with the \DISTASST.PS port.

Also, an undocumented problems / hint. If you are connected
to a network or a system with multiple partitions for that matter,
using the \DISTASST.PS port may mean that the driver puts (or
attempts to put) your PostScript output on a write-protected
network drive at the root level. Distiller Assistant looks for
a file by the name of \DISTASST.PS on any and all mapped drives.
Thus, it is better to create a port by the name of X:\DISTASST.PS
(where "X" is the drive letter you want those temporary files to
go to) and associate the printer with that port as opposed to
the port without the drive letter. (You can easily create the modified
port by editing the "C:\WINDOWS\WIN.INI" file and replacing "\DISTASST.PS"
with "X:\DISTASST.PS" and rebooting!)

        - Dov
 
 

At 11/18/98 01:30 PM , you wrote:
Hi all,

I've just switched to a new machine with Windows 98.  I'm calling it a switch and not an upgrade at this point because 98 seems to be a bit buggy!  Anyway, I've installed Acrobat 3.01 and everything seemed to be OK till I tried to configure Distiller Assistant to use the AdobePS 4.1 driver.  You see, Windows 98 doesn't seem to have the PSCRIPT.DRV driver that Acrobat needs to create the \Distasst.ps printer port that AdobePS 4.1 uses.

Sooooooooo, I grabbed the PSCRIPT.DRV file from my old 95 machine and installed Acrobat.  The \Distasst.ps port was there for me to select when I installed the AdobePS 4.1 driver, and everything seemed to be OK.  Nope.  When I try to distill a Word file using Distiller Assistant, I get the following error:
Error writing to \Distasst.ps for the printer (Distiller Assistant  [AdobePS]);  There was a problem printing to the network resource.  Check to make sure the printer server is working properly, and try printing again.
 

Interesting, because the Distiller Assistant printer is not defined as a network printer.  I don't know why a network resource is involved here.  Is using the PSCRIPT.DRV driver from Windows 95 the root cause of this? Using PDFwriter works fine, but I need to distill my Word files because I've found that distilling does a better job with my screen-capture, bitmap-laden files for a software manual.

Any help is hugely appreciated!

Chris Curley
Technical Writer
The Info Group, Inc.
--=====================_20391751==_.ALT-- __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 18-Nov-1998 23:29:03-GMT,4795;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA08370 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 16:29:02 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA31818; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 17:25:50 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 18 Nov 1998 17:23:51 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA31657; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 17:23:49 -0600 Message-Id: <199811182323.AAA07913@d1o202.telia.com> Subject: Re: [PDF] An easier install procedure for CD-ROMs? Date: Thu, 19 Nov 98 00:23:47 +0100 x-sender: u222600675@m1.2226.telia.com x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: Richard Taubo To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Hi! I downloaded: the "Autoview" from the http://www.powerup.com.au/~calypso sight that Aandi wrote about on Monday 16 Nov, and burned a CD with it. You will find "Autoview" at: http://www.powerup.com.au/~calypso/autoview.html. Here is what I found out ("Autoview" is 32 bit application for the Win platform): What it does-- "Autoview" will, when you insert the cd-rom, automatically open a given pdf file as long as either Acrobat Reader or Exchange is present. If no viewers are present, it will take you to a new window and ask if you would like to install an Acrobat viewer. Pros: It is really easy to set up, and it seems to work without any flaws. Things to think about when using autostart and "Autoview" (not necessarily Cons): 1) To get the autostart action to work, the user must have checked the autostart option for the CD-player. That migth not be the case (it was not checked on the machine I used). The "read me" part on your cd cover will therefore be sligthly more complex: One where e.g. win 95 has the autostart option on, and one where it is not checked. This will be the same in all cases where autostart is used, I just thought about as I was playing around with the program. 2) I checked out how "Autoview" would cope with cases where acrobat is thrown out of the system, and the CD-ROM is launched just after (PS I did not check when using Adobe uninstaller). I thougth this check might be useful when you want your users to upgrade acrobat, to see what will happen when users earlier have installed Reader on their systems and then thrown it out of their systems again etc. What I found out in this case, was that "Autoview" still tried to open the pdf file after all "visible" Acrobat files where thrown out (it still thought that Acrobat was installed on the system, and tried to open the file instead of launching the Installer). Windows itself therefore asked me to find the Acrobat Viewer it had information about in its registry to launch the file. The method used in "Autoview" does therefore not seem to be as bullet proof as would like it to be. The best would be if it actually picked up that Acrobat was not operative and then launched the installer window, before Windows started to ask about whereabouts. (As I mentioned I have not tried to see what will happen if I use the Uninstaller instead of just throwing the program out) This was just a short review of "Autoview", there are also other launching programs on the websigth. I have not tried these though . . . . Would be nice to see if any of you have expericences with this and other launching programs! (PS there might be other ways of dealing with the problem a mentioned above, contact the author at: calypso@powerup.com.au if you would like to investigate it further). Best regards Richard Taubo Bergersen as Aandi wrote: >So I thought I'd share a link I found to >http://www.powerup.com.au/~calypso. >This is inexpensive shareware which allows autorun CDROMs to be created >without programming. I haven't tried any of it out, but this might be the >answer to this question. If anyone has used any of this software, it may >be worth sharing your experiences. __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 19-Nov-1998 6:34:37-GMT,2440;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA17283 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 1998 23:34:35 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA23757; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 00:30:42 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 19 Nov 1998 00:27:17 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA23547; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 00:27:13 -0600 Message-Id: <199811190627.WAA18750@mindy.accesscom.com> Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 22:28:01 -0800 (PST) From: "Derek B. Noonburg" Subject: Re: [PDF] Survey concerning PDF users To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com In-Reply-To: <199811181841.MAA02223@everglades.binc.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > I don't know what portion of the above complaints is due to the document > being browsed but I do blame the browser. The general feel of the UI is > of a schizophrenic program that can't decide if it's a layout program, a > form interpreter or a "book/article" browser. The survey respondents (and > I) want a good PDF browser. > > Anyone else agree ? Is there any competition ? Anyone want to fund me ? :-) Well, there's definitely a little bit of competition. If you're running a Unix or VMS system, try my xpdf software. It still has some problems with fonts (I'm working on that...), but it has good key bindings, and it's generally pretty fast. http://www.foolabs.com/pub/xpdf/ I won't say any more because I'll get yelled at for advertising, but hey, it's free software, so this isn't *really* advertising :-) - Derek __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 19-Nov-1998 10:09:51-GMT,3443;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA21511 for ; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 03:09:50 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA00814; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 04:05:42 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 19 Nov 1998 03:59:54 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA00444; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 03:59:52 -0600 Message-ID: <3653EC5F.E2D7F763@wanadoo.fr> Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 11:01:03 +0100 From: Michel Lausseur Organization: AAlto Consultant X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [fr] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Scan tools References: <3652E6DE.A9FEAC84@i2000.es> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > You should have a look at following softwares : - Ascent Capture (KOFAX) which is a comprehensive capture software, with a full set of fonctionnalities ; it works with any scanner - Canofile for Windows (CANON) available with DR-3020 scanner (A4, duplex), or as a stand alone software Both software process bar code recognition ; I don't know exactly if you can directly define the bar code as TIF output file name, but it should not be very difficult to automate that. Michel Lausseur Aalto Consultant Alvaro de la Hera Martinez a écrit: > < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > > Hello, > > I need a scan software which can do the following process: > > 1. Scan the document. > 2. Extract the bar code that the documents has. > 3. Store the scanned document in TIFF format using the value of the > barcode as name of the file. > This process must to be performed for each document, and the number of > documents to be scanned is about 6.000 each day. > > Does anyone know a software that can do that ? > > Thanks in advanced. > > -- > > A H | > A H | Interlinea2000 Comunicaciones, S.A. > AAAAHHHHMMMM | Kaskotegi 4, bajo > A A M M | 20.305 Irun (Spain) > AAAA M | Telephone: 34-43-619101 > | Fax: 34-43-618159 > Alvaro de la Hera Martinez | > > __________________________________________________________________ > > PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" > > @ PDF Showcase: > __________________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 19-Nov-1998 11:41:23-GMT,2225;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA22986 for ; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 04:41:22 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA05164; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 05:37:33 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 19 Nov 1998 05:32:58 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA04908; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 05:32:56 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.2.32.19981119113308.00753870@post.informix.com> X-Sender: helenw@post.informix.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.2 (32) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 11:33:08 +0000 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Helen Watchorn Subject: [PDF] manipulating default bookmark font in PDF files? Cc: ie-pubs@informix.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Hi - we localise FrameMaker files into Eastern European/Russian languages. We "Generate Acrobat Data" when creating ps files for output to PDF. However we lose the extended characters of say Czech/Slovak/Russian in the bookmarks. How can you map the font settings of bookmarks? Or can you? Is it a driver setup issue? Our s/w environment is: US FrameMaker 5.1.2 Czech Windows 95 Adobe Printer Driver 4.2.4 + HP 4V/4MV PS ppd using default printer properties. (we have to stick to this setup, too many implications if we change) thanks, Helen __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 19-Nov-1998 14:20:27-GMT,2224;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA25795 for ; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 07:20:26 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA14191; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 08:17:23 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 19 Nov 1998 08:15:21 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA14038; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 08:15:19 -0600 Message-Id: <00f301be13c7$02b09860$734686c0@odpc14.gti.berger-levrault.fr> From: "Nick Parker" To: "PDF List" Subject: [PDF] Converting PDF pages to EPSF Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 15:15:07 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Priority: 3 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id IAA14034 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Does anyone know of a reliable way to convert a PDF page into an EPSF file. We've trying various ways of printing to file from Acrobat Reader and Exchange, but on NT no EPSF option is available and on a Mac the image size gets screwed up (it seems to be based on the paper size of the current printer and not on the size of the PDF page). Any ideas? Nick Parker, Berger-Levrault, France __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 19-Nov-1998 14:56:33-GMT,2017;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA26545 for ; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 07:56:31 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA17124; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 08:53:14 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 19 Nov 1998 08:51:35 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA16872; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 08:51:33 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19981119100206.00938a80@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 10:02:06 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] Converting PDF pages to EPSF In-Reply-To: <00f301be13c7$02b09860$734686c0@odpc14.gti.berger-levrault. fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > >Does anyone know of a reliable way to convert a PDF page into an EPSF file. > Download the PS/EPS export plug in for Exchange from Adobe's web site. Seems to work nicely under NT4/SP3 here, though I'm not sure how it addresses non-letter size page issues. Steve Rindsberg/Prez RDP http://www.rdpslides.com __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 19-Nov-1998 15:08:40-GMT,3032;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA26946 for ; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 08:08:39 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA18406; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 09:07:44 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 19 Nov 1998 09:06:19 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA18291; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 09:06:18 -0600 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com cc: ie-pubs@informix.com Subject: Re: [PDF] manipulating default bookmark font in PDF files? In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 19 Nov 1998 11:33:08 GMT." <3.0.2.32.19981119113308.00753870@post.informix.com> Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 15:06:07 +0000 Message-ID: <16509.911487967@isode.com> From: Chris Ridd Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > On Thu, 19 Nov 1998 11:33:08 GMT, Helen Watchorn wrote: > > < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > > Hi - we localise FrameMaker files into Eastern European/Russian languages. > We "Generate Acrobat Data" when creating ps files for output to PDF. > However we lose the extended characters of say Czech/Slovak/Russian in the > bookmarks. > > How can you map the font settings of bookmarks? Or can you? Is it a driver > setup issue? The bookmark strings use the PDFDocEncoding encoding, which is defined in the PDF spec section C. I don't know what characters you'd need for Czech/Solvak/Russian, you'd have to look at the PDF spec yourself I guess to see specifically what's allowed. I recall a recent thread here which described what *subsets* of PDFDocEncoding the different Acrobat Reader implementations use, so you'd also do well to check (no pun intended) a Czech-localized copy of Reader/Exchange on your delivery platforms to see what they do. The PDF spec is available on Adobe's ftp site: ftp://ftp.adobe.com/pub/adobe/devrelations/devtechnotes/pdffiles/PDFSPEC .PDF > Our s/w environment is: > > US FrameMaker 5.1.2 > Czech Windows 95 > Adobe Printer Driver 4.2.4 + HP 4V/4MV PS ppd using default printer > properties. (we have to stick to this setup, too many implications if we > change) > > thanks, > Helen Chris __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 19-Nov-1998 15:14:42-GMT,3594;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA27074 for ; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 08:14:41 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA18913; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 09:13:13 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 19 Nov 1998 09:12:00 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA18771; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 09:11:58 -0600 From: robert.richard@hrdc-drhc.gc.ca Date: Thu, 19 Nov 98 10:00:07 -0500 Message-ID: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) To: Subject: RE: [PDF] TranZform by VerTec Solutions Inc. X-Incognito-SN: 1396 X-Incognito-Version: 4.11.23 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > If all of our 30 agents would used Acrobat 3.01 instead of Adobe Reader, it would mean that they can modify datas from our telecentre resource. Could we put some kind of restriction to prevent this? The answer to this question is probably: no. We will also investigate option of sending forms, containing datas, to a web server. Thanks again. Having this pdf discussion group is very resourcefull. Reply were/are very appreciated. Robert Richard. ------------- Original Text From: "Aandi Inston" , on 11/18/98 5:54 PM: < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > We currently have all of our office profiles, telephone > directories and > procedure manuals in pdf files. All agents (30) in our > telecentre are able > to access these files through Acrobat Reader 3.01 and > navigate using the > invisible links. The resource was created solely with > Microsoft Word 6.0 > and then printed in Acrobat 3.01. Now, we want to add forms to this > resource. Adobe Acrobat Forms 3.01 can create all type of > fields in the pdf > forms located in our resource, but Acrobat Reader does not permit our > agents to export the forms/datas to local hard drive or to > other sources. > Would the only solution be to print a paper copy and submited > manually? No, your agents can purchase Acrobat Exchange. No product is available, or can be written, to allow forms to be exported from the free Reader. This is a deliberate restriction put there by Adobe, who like to sell copies of Exchange. It is pretty cheap in bulk. Reader can print filled-in forms, and it can submit them to a web server. Aandi __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 19-Nov-1998 16:11:13-GMT,3232;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA28447 for ; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 09:11:08 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA23458; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 10:06:00 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 19 Nov 1998 10:03:59 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA23261; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 10:03:55 -0600 Message-ID: From: "Epps, Fred W" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Survey concerning PDF users Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 08:03:48 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2407.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > This link worked. > http://www.foolabs.com/xpdf/ > Fred.W.Epps@Boeing.com > ---------- > From: Derek B. Noonburg[SMTP:derekn@foolabs.com] > Reply To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Sent: Wednesday, 18 November, 1998 10:28 PM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: Re: [PDF] Survey concerning PDF users > > > < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > > > I don't know what portion of the above complaints is due to the document > > being browsed but I do blame the browser. The general feel of the UI is > > of a schizophrenic program that can't decide if it's a layout program, a > > > form interpreter or a "book/article" browser. The survey respondents > (and > > I) want a good PDF browser. > > > > Anyone else agree ? Is there any competition ? Anyone want to fund me ? > :-) > > Well, there's definitely a little bit of competition. If you're > running a Unix or VMS system, try my xpdf software. It still has some > problems with fonts (I'm working on that...), but it has good key > bindings, and it's generally pretty fast. > > http://www.foolabs.com/pub/xpdf/ > > I won't say any more because I'll get yelled at for advertising, but > hey, it's free software, so this isn't *really* advertising :-) > > - Derek > > > > __________________________________________________________________ > > PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" > > @ PDF Showcase: > __________________________________________________________________ > __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 19-Nov-1998 16:28:05-GMT,2362;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA28925 for ; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 09:28:04 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA25115; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 10:26:49 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 19 Nov 1998 10:25:16 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA25027; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 10:25:08 -0600 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] TranZform by VerTec Solutions Inc. Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 15:37:54 -0000 Message-ID: <002a01be13d8$cc15d880$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > If all of our 30 agents would used Acrobat 3.01 instead of > Adobe Reader, it > would mean that they can modify datas from our telecentre > resource. Could > we put some kind of restriction to prevent this? The answer to this > question is probably: no. Yes, you can set security (in SAVE AS) that forbids the file from being modified, while still allowing forms to be filled. Also, if you serve the forms through a web server, this is by definition a read-only resource, which is preferable. There are potentially locking issues otherwise. Aandi __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 19-Nov-1998 17:18:45-GMT,3592;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA00149 for ; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 10:18:39 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA29369; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 11:14:25 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 19 Nov 1998 11:12:11 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA29118; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 11:12:05 -0600 Subject: Re: [PDF] Converting PDF pages to EPSF Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 10:12:46 -0700 x-sender: dennisw@mail.inpractice.net x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: Dennis Walker To: "PDF Mail List" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-ID: <1300652125-36325238@mail.inpractice.net> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Nick Parker (npar@Berger-Levrault.fr) wrote on 11/19/98 7:15 AM: >Does anyone know of a reliable way to convert a PDF page into an EPSF file. > >We've trying various ways of printing to file from Acrobat Reader and >Exchange, but on NT no EPSF option is available and on a Mac the image >size gets screwed up (it seems to be based on the paper size of the >current printer and not on the size of the PDF page). > >Any ideas? I actually do this quite a lot for fractional page ads to be dropped in my magazine layout. I'm on MacOS 8.1 and use one or more in combination: pdfOutput (part of pdfToolbox from Callas SW) Adobe Illustrator 7.0.1 (just switched to 8.0) TransverterPro 3.2 (from TechPool SW) The prefered workflow is to simply export an EPS from Exchange using pdfOutput. The resulting file may be all you need. I take the extra step to open the EPS file in Illustrator to convert fonts to outlines, set overprints, make any color space changes needed and re-save the EPS. If Illustrator has trouble parsing the EPS, I will try to RIP with TPro to EPSF, then open in Illustrator. Usually, with this series of workflows I can get a usable EPS from most any PDF file. You may ask, "why not just open the PDF using Illustrator?" My experience with the PDF parser in Illustrator has been horrible. I regularily see problems with missing images, font substitution and wacked-out font kerning. I was hoping for better things from AI v8, but my initial experiences are just as bad. If you want to know the real truth (in my world, anyway), Illustrator is far better a parsing Quark-saved EPS files than a PDF or an EPS exported from Exchange (go figure). So if you have the original layout in Quark and you're doing everything in-house, cut PDF out of the loop altogether. Dennis Walker dennisw@inpractice.net EVP/Production Mgr. 435-647-9910 InPractice Publications, Inc. 435-647-5927 fax __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 19-Nov-1998 18:12:08-GMT,3106;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA01494 for ; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 11:11:58 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA01683; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 12:08:06 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 19 Nov 1998 12:06:24 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA01475; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 12:06:22 -0600 From: robert.richard@hrdc-drhc.gc.ca Date: Thu, 19 Nov 98 12:51:46 -0500 Message-ID: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) To: Subject: RE: [PDF] TranZform by VerTec Solutions Inc. X-Incognito-SN: 1396 X-Incognito-Version: 4.11.23 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Marvelous! Thanks for detailed information. I have check the SAVE AS in Acrobat and have seen the Security option for documents. Very impressive. Plus, I have call Adobe reseller about licenses for Adobe Acrobat 3.01 for all of our 30 agents. I beleive that Acrobat 3.01 with Acrobat forms is gonna serve us well with our telecentre resource. Thanks to Aandi and all people who volunteered to give me contacts to VerTec employees. Robert Richard ------------- Original Text From: "Aandi Inston" , on 11/19/98 11:37 AM: < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > If all of our 30 agents would used Acrobat 3.01 instead of > Adobe Reader, it > would mean that they can modify datas from our telecentre > resource. Could > we put some kind of restriction to prevent this? The answer to this > question is probably: no. Yes, you can set security (in SAVE AS) that forbids the file from being modified, while still allowing forms to be filled. Also, if you serve the forms through a web server, this is by definition a read-only resource, which is preferable. There are potentially locking issues otherwise. Aandi __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 19-Nov-1998 18:34:46-GMT,3265;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA02099 for ; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 11:34:45 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA03920; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 12:31:18 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 19 Nov 1998 12:26:12 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA03470; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 12:26:11 -0600 From: "Thierry Berger" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Converting PDF pages to EPSF Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 19:20:41 +0100 Message-ID: <001001be13e9$50bace00$252ca8c0@pc-te-berger> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <00f301be13c7$02b09860$734686c0@odpc14.gti.berger-levrault.fr> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > With MacOs 8.1, you can modified the "Acrobat Distiller" printer description file, and define your paper size in this file. On the finder you select this printer description file for your printer, and after with acrobat reader you choose your paper size in print setup menu and you print in a file. Thierry Berger. Prisma Presse - Service informatique. Tel : 01 44 90 66 69. > -----Message d'origine----- > De: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com [mailto:owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com]De > la part de Nick Parker > Date: jeudi 19 novembre 1998 15:15 > À: PDF List > Objet: [PDF] Converting PDF pages to EPSF > > > > < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > > Does anyone know of a reliable way to convert a PDF page into an > EPSF file. > > We've trying various ways of printing to file from Acrobat Reader > and Exchange, but on NT no EPSF option is available and on a Mac > the image size gets screwed up (it seems to be based on the paper > size of the current printer and not on the size of the PDF page). > > Any ideas? > > Nick Parker, Berger-Levrault, France > > > > __________________________________________________________________ > > PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" > > @ PDF Showcase: > __________________________________________________________________ > > __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 19-Nov-1998 18:57:04-GMT,2427;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA02645 for ; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 11:56:58 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA05723; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 12:53:14 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 19 Nov 1998 12:49:15 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA05361; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 12:49:13 -0600 From: "Stan Glenn" To: Subject: [PDF] screen shots Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 10:51:24 -0800 Message-ID: <000501be13ed$9b4acca0$8e5c96d1@sglenn.cbspayroll.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Anyone have any advice on my problem with screen shots?... I've been doing them with Hijaak...(screen shots of a DOS program we market)..and saving them, also in Hijaak, as either JPG or GIF format, then inserting them into Word97 HTM files, for inclusion on our company web site. We're now converting to PDF format, and I use the PDFWriter feature to print the Word97 HTM files into PDFs. What I'm finding is that both formats give poor quality printouts in PDF. Anyone have a recommendation as to a better format? What I'm primarily seeking here is good, readable print quality, as the end result, when the PDF file is printed by the user. Thanks. Stan Glenn sglenn@cbspayroll.com __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 19-Nov-1998 20:26:14-GMT,5217;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA04773 for ; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 13:26:13 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA14641; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 14:21:39 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 19 Nov 1998 14:18:17 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA14338; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 14:18:12 -0600 From: robert.richard@hrdc-drhc.gc.ca Date: Thu, 19 Nov 98 13:15:54 -0500 Message-ID: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) To: Subject: RE: [PDF] TranZform by VerTec Solutions Inc. X-Incognito-SN: 1396 X-Incognito-Version: 4.11.23 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Considering your alternative that all of our telecentre agents would be using their current Acrobat Reader 3.01 to print filled-in forms and send them to a web server, could you briefly elaborate on this process. Our forms would be completed per client information and would contain highly confidential information. Evidently, only our telecentre supervisors and agents would have access to these forms. We need to get a feeling of how this alternative is done and its possible complexities. We are not sure of its viability and if it would meet our needs. Today, we visited an internet web site that contained information on a software called COLD FUSION, used for database on intranet. Although, it offered us a way of exporting our forms in a database, It seems very complex. Tonight, we will further investigate this site. Also, how is it possible that 30 agents could access and complete the same forms while exporting these datas to a local hard drive or other sources? Would there be any foreseen problems? Would Acrobat 3.01 and/or Acrobat Reader 3.01 permit that kind of demand, 30 agents completing and inputting datas on the forms simultaneously. It might be easier for us to buy 30 licenses of Adobe Acrobat 3.01 than the intranet alternative. In the near future, our zone will have an elaborate intranet web site. The zone has several other programs and services being offered by Federal Public servants. We are planning to move our Enquiry On-line resource and the said forms to the this intranet. Again, the resource contains office profiles, telephone directories and procedure manuals for our program. Currently, each agents has access to the Canadian Federal Government intranet and this is possible by using Netscape Navigator 4.03. Please note that the agents computers are equipped with Intel Pentium II 266 MHz, Win95 and working under Banyan network. They access the said EOR or Enquiry On-line resource via Banyan. Hoping that this message is clear and appropriate, I thank you in advance for responding. Robert Richard. ------------- Original Text From: "Aandi Inston" , on 11/18/98 5:54 PM: < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > We currently have all of our office profiles, telephone > directories and > procedure manuals in pdf files. All agents (30) in our > telecentre are able > to access these files through Acrobat Reader 3.01 and > navigate using the > invisible links. The resource was created solely with > Microsoft Word 6.0 > and then printed in Acrobat 3.01. Now, we want to add forms to this > resource. Adobe Acrobat Forms 3.01 can create all type of > fields in the pdf > forms located in our resource, but Acrobat Reader does not permit our > agents to export the forms/datas to local hard drive or to > other sources. > Would the only solution be to print a paper copy and submited > manually? No, your agents can purchase Acrobat Exchange. No product is available, or can be written, to allow forms to be exported from the free Reader. This is a deliberate restriction put there by Adobe, who like to sell copies of Exchange. It is pretty cheap in bulk. Reader can print filled-in forms, and it can submit them to a web server. Aandi __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ f __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 19-Nov-1998 20:32:29-GMT,5190;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA04910 for ; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 13:32:28 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA15848; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 14:31:21 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 19 Nov 1998 14:30:03 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA15639; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 14:30:00 -0600 From: robert.richard@hrdc-drhc.gc.ca Date: Thu, 19 Nov 98 15:28:16 -0500 Message-ID: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) To: Subject: [PDF] Forms. X-Incognito-SN: 1396 X-Incognito-Version: 4.11.23 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Considering your alternative that all of our telecentre agents would be using their current Acrobat Reader 3.01 to print filled-in forms and send them to a web server, could you briefly elaborate on this process. Our forms would be completed per client information and would contain highly confidential information. Evidently, only our telecentre supervisors and agents would have access to these forms. We need to get a feeling of how this alternative is done and its possible complexities. We are not sure of its viability and if it would meet our needs. Today, we visited an internet web site that contained information on a software called COLD FUSION, used for database on intranet. Although, it offered us a way of exporting our forms in a database, It seems very complex. Tonight, we will further investigate this site. Also, how is it possible that 30 agents could access and complete the same forms while exporting these datas to a local hard drive or other sources? Would there be any foreseen problems? Would Acrobat 3.01 and/or Acrobat Reader 3.01 permit that kind of demand, 30 agents completing and inputting datas on the forms simultaneously. It might be easier for us to buy 30 licenses of Adobe Acrobat 3.01 than the intranet alternative. In the near future, our zone will have an elaborate intranet web site. The zone has several other programs and services being offered by Federal Public servants. We are planning to move our Enquiry On-line resource and the said forms to the this intranet. Again, the resource contains office profiles, telephone directories and procedure manuals for our program. Currently, each agents has access to the Canadian Federal Government intranet and this is possible by using Netscape Navigator 4.03. Please note that the agents computers are equipped with Intel Pentium II 266 MHz, Win95 and working under Banyan network. They access the said EOR or Enquiry On-line resource via Banyan. Hoping that this message is clear and appropriate, I thank you in advance for responding. Robert Richard. ------------------ Original text From: "Aandi Inston" , on 11/18/98 5:54 PM: < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > We currently have all of our office profiles, telephone > directories and > procedure manuals in pdf files. All agents (30) in our > telecentre are able > to access these files through Acrobat Reader 3.01 and > navigate using the > invisible links. The resource was created solely with > Microsoft Word 6.0 > and then printed in Acrobat 3.01. Now, we want to add forms to this > resource. Adobe Acrobat Forms 3.01 can create all type of > fields in the pdf > forms located in our resource, but Acrobat Reader does not permit our > agents to export the forms/datas to local hard drive or to > other sources. > Would the only solution be to print a paper copy and submited > manually? No, your agents can purchase Acrobat Exchange. No product is available, or can be written, to allow forms to be exported from the free Reader. This is a deliberate restriction put there by Adobe, who like to sell copies of Exchange. It is pretty cheap in bulk. Reader can print filled-in forms, and it can submit them to a web server. Aandi __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ f __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 19-Nov-1998 21:19:44-GMT,2988;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA06156 for ; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 14:19:43 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA20272; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 15:15:24 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 19 Nov 1998 15:13:25 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA20028; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 15:13:21 -0600 Message-ID: <697A4CA51395D111A658AA0004005806974B23@NT6> From: "Pottinger, Hardy" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: Re: [PDF] An easier install procedure for CD-ROMs? Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 15:13:10 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > RE: Installers >I downloaded: the "Autoview" from the http://www.powerup.com.au/~calypso >sight that Aandi wrote about on Monday 16 Nov, and burned a CD with it. >You will find "Autoview" at: >http://www.powerup.com.au/~calypso/autoview.html. I just checked out this page and bookmarked it. Looks interesting. However, I think I may have found a solution, and it involves no $. First, I decided that I would not be concerned about an autorun feature for the Mac side of things. Evidently there is a 'nasty virus' concern that has caused many Mac users to turn off any sort of autoplay feature, so, no big loss if I don't worry about that. Second, I found a FREE installation package for Windows 9x/NT, called HJ-Install. You can find more information at http://www.freebyte.com/hjh/software/hj-install/hj-install.html Looks very promising. Also, at this same site ( http://freebyte.com/freeware/ ) is the hugest collection of free programs and other resources I've ever seen. Lots of stuff. Check it out. And of course, DOS, Win31 and Unix folks don't really have an autorun option available to them. ----------------------------------- Mr. HARDY POTTINGER Information Coordinator Orthopaedic Research Society 6300 N River Rd Ste 727 Rosemont, IL 60018-4226 (847)384-4219 / FAX (847)823-0536 pottinger@aaos.org http://www.ors.org ----------------------------------- __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 19-Nov-1998 21:22:09-GMT,2940;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA06215 for ; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 14:22:08 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA20277; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 15:15:34 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 19 Nov 1998 15:14:30 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA20153; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 15:14:28 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" ; format="flowed" X-Sender: softsmrt@mail.indra.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199811192018.OAA14357@everglades.binc.net> Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 14:12:39 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Bart Windrum Subject: [PDF] Mac OS even/odd printing solution Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id PAA20145 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Yo all, last week a posted a query regarding a Mac OS even/odd printing solution; I've since found one. It requires the use of the OneClick ($50; Westcode.com) shortcut/macro utility. In their user-developed palette archive there's a freeware one called Even/Odd Printing. Once installed into OneClick as a global palette you manage your printing from it. Enter the page range, select even/odd and forward/reverse; set it to bring up the print dialog so you can manipulate settings. The scripts process each page as a separate print job, so it's relatively slow going, and even with background printing you loose access to the computer while it executes all the one-page print jobs. You get your computer back, however, as it processes all those jobs. (it¹s not supposed to function with background printing on but it does fine for me under OS 8.1.) Cheers, _______________________ Bart Windrum, Soft Smart LLC Movement For Computer Terminal People (sm) Computer Users¹ Stress Relief Workshops Movement Card Decks -- Macintosh/Windows CD-Rom -- PostureBalls Train-the-Trainer Queries: Stretch@SoftSmart.com Personal : Bart@SoftSmart.com (303) or (888) 499 8120 __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 19-Nov-1998 23:04:03-GMT,2366;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA08867 for ; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 16:03:50 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA27997; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 16:45:15 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 19 Nov 1998 16:43:06 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA27739; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 16:43:00 -0600 Message-ID: <94C92F085410D21194FE006097B7B2F279AF85@dal-01-msg.objectspace.com> From: Chris Marich To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Max number of open files problem in Acrobat. Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 16:42:32 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > We have a web site that publishes various reports in PDF. The browser (IE or NS) brings up the Acrobat reader plugin and displays the report. After the 9th or 10th display Acrobat reader issues an error message: "The maximum number of files are already open. No other files can be opened or printed until some are closed." A user of the web site cannot view any more PDF files until they close the PDF viewer that is opened by the IE plug in. I don't even want the PDF files cached. How do I make this stop? I got the AutoClose plugin from Adobe but it won't install. The instructions make no sense. Will the AutoClose plugin solve my problem? If so, how do you install it? Is there a better way to solve this problem? Thanks. __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 20-Nov-1998 2:02:25-GMT,3506;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA13161 for ; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 19:02:20 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA08332; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 19:57:26 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 19 Nov 1998 19:54:00 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA08103; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 19:53:57 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: kfoss@pdfzone.com Message-Id: Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 19:56:51 -0600 To: "pdf@lists.pdfzone.com" From: Robert Baker Jr Subject: Re: [PDF] workflow suggestions Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Why not join Lexus/Nexus or equivalent and cut and paste pertinent text for distribution? On Wed, 28 Oct 1998, Dean Laffan wrote: > > ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== > > Hi All > > I am looking for suggestions for the following requirements, since our > background is graphic design rather than workflow related... > > Our client has to compile a daily collection of news clippings of their > company and send it via internal email to all their execs aound the > country (about 45 seperate mails) > > The source material can be B&W photocopies of the actual newspaper or > emails of text from a story (Reuters feed). No colour required. > > At the moment they scan them on a flatbed and insert them into > PowerPoint and then mail the ppt file (About 8MB !) since thay are not > scanning savvy, they need instructions for optimizing their scans > > Question is... is Acrobat the best delivery wehicle or is there a better > solution ? They do want to be able to print them at the different sites. > > Is it a better idea to send an email with embeded URL's with Links back > to byte served PDF's (Yes their server supports bytserving) > > Since we have never done this type of work, I would appreciate any > suggestions on optimal settings for scanning B&W images and best method > of compression for newspaper clippings. > > Their environment is Win '95 > > > TIA > > > > Dean Laffan > Real World Productions > > > __________________________________________________________ > > -> PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" <-- > *** Sponsorship & Advt. Opportunities Now Available! *** > + For more details, REPLY TO mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com + > __________________________________________________________ > > Robert Baker VP, Digital Services Cini-Little International, Inc. Consultants in Foodservice and Hospitality UMUC Student, Advanced Internet __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 20-Nov-1998 2:33:43-GMT,2143;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA13790 for ; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 19:33:42 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA10752; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 20:29:59 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 19 Nov 1998 20:28:11 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA10598; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 20:28:07 -0600 Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 21:26:52 -0500 From: Michael Vorel Subject: Re: [PDF] workflow suggestions To: "INTERNET:pdf@lists.pdfzone.com" Message-ID: <199811192127_MC2-60E1-5924@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id UAA10585 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Message text written by INTERNET:pdf@lists.pdfzone.com >Why not join Lexus/Nexus or equivalent and cut and paste pertinent text for distribution?< isn't Nexus/Lexus opposed to copying and redistribution without license fees of some sort??? michael vorel Bowne Business Solutions "Imagination, Imagination, a dream can be a dream come true with just that spark in me and you!" -Dreamfinder and Figment, Journey_into_Imagination __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 20-Nov-1998 3:19:26-GMT,9923;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA14664 for ; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 20:19:24 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA13613; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 21:15:11 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 19 Nov 1998 21:13:27 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA13440; Thu, 19 Nov 1998 21:13:26 -0600 Message-ID: <6031CF804B89D111B9F00020AFD0D9A60250D9@mail.paravision.com> From: Vincent Huang To: "'PDF List'" , jmaechtlen@amada.com Subject: [PDF] RE: US Acrobat vs. AcrobatJ Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 19:32:02 -0800 X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: <6031CF804B89D111B9F00020AFD0D9A60250D9@mail.paravision.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="---- =_NextPart_000_01BE1436.56B52020" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------ =_NextPart_000_01BE1436.56B52020 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" ---------- From: jmaechtlen@amada.com [SMTP:jmaechtlen@amada.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 1998 1:31 PM To: 'PDF List' Subject: US Acrobat vs. AcrobatJ ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== We would like to exchange documents with our home office (corporate lords and masters) in Japan from here in the USA. It seems that they can read our PDF files just fine, but there's a big problem with Japanese and Acrobat. Namely: only AcrobatJ (Japanese) can handle the character set(s?) necessary. Unfortunately, AcrobatJ seems to require Windows95J or '98J. For a gringo to run a machine with Win95J is somewhere between purgatory and impossible, I think. Suggestions? How can our Japan office create documents that we (I) can at least print and use? (at least for sending to translate into English...) "documents" meaning (a) text with illustrations and (b) drawings with captions TIA I just came back from an extended trip from Japan exploring the VERY issue you are asking here. The bottom line is that Adobe PDF does NOT have a solution for PDF files to be truly cross "Language" Platform. There are two solutions: 1. save your Japanese document in image PDF. 2. Use an alternative portable document format: DynaDoc from DynaLab Japan. Save your document in DynaDoc with fonts embedded. (Acrobat cannot do this for technically and legal reasons. While DynaLab is the largest font company in Japan with a really nice stroke based font embedding technology) http://www.dynalab.co.jp The reader is free pretty much like Acrobat reader. The only catch is that your viewers will have one more free viewer other than Acrobat Reader. Good luck. 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<6031CF804B89D111B9F00020AFD0D9A60250DA@mail.paravision.com> From: Vincent Huang To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com, Max Wyss Cc: jmaechtlen@amada.com Subject: RE: [PDF] US Acrobat vs. AcrobatJ Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 19:45:34 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Max, I don't think you can! When you try to print something into a Japanese PDF (you have to be under Japanese O.S. using Japanese Acrobat PDF print driver of course), your Acrobat Print driver only shows Legally apporved font for you to embed. Where you will not see ANY Japanese font in the "font embed" selection window. This is because ALL font companies set the font to be embedding NOT ALLOWED. So when the driver try to find it, it cannot display it. (The legal system is slightly different for Japan in terms of font embedding). When you cannot embed the font, your Acrobat Reader under other language O.S. CANNOT display and will reject the PDF file. Vincent Huang Paravision Imaging Developer of PageGenie 2000: Advanced Legacy Document Capturing for PDF Archiving http://www.pagegenie.com ---------- From: Max Wyss [SMTP:prodok@prodok.ch] Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 1998 3:29 PM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Cc: jmaechtlen@amada.com Subject: Re: [PDF] US Acrobat vs. AcrobatJ ====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by PDFzone.COM <==== Jay, If I am not too wrong, it could be worthwile getting a Mac (even a simple IMac should do) and run JLK (Japanese Language Kit). Then, you should be able to display the Japanese fonts. Hope, this can help. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering AG Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 20-Nov-1998 13:37:40-GMT,3414;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA26190 for ; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 06:37:39 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA09120; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 07:12:56 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 20 Nov 1998 07:11:29 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA08999; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 07:11:28 -0600 From: peter@originalab.se (Originalab Peter) To: Subject: SV: [PDF] Max number of open files problem in Acrobat. Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 14:15:46 +0100 Message-ID: <01be1487$e2a66a10$0100a8c0@server.algonet.se> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Asked the same question before! Even more, why should users of Acrobat have to bother about this at all? Why does Reader not close file 1 (of 10) automatically when file 11 is pulled? Peter Reichel peter@originalab.se http://www.originalab.se -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- Från: Chris Marich Till: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' Datum: den 20 november 1998 07:00 Ämne: [PDF] Max number of open files problem in Acrobat. > >< ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > >We have a web site that publishes various reports in PDF. The browser (IE or >NS) brings up the Acrobat reader plugin and displays the report. After the >9th or 10th display Acrobat reader issues an error message: > >"The maximum number of files are already open. No other files can be opened >or printed until some are closed." > >A user of the web site cannot view any more PDF files until they close the >PDF viewer that is opened by the IE plug in. I don't even want the PDF >files cached. > >How do I make this stop? I got the AutoClose plugin from Adobe but it won't >install. The instructions make no sense. Will the AutoClose plugin solve >my problem? If so, how do you install it? Is there a better way to solve >this problem? Thanks. > >__________________________________________________________________ > >PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" > >@ PDF Showcase: >__________________________________________________________________ > > __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 20-Nov-1998 13:38:51-GMT,5207;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA26196 for ; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 06:38:50 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA07324; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 06:42:34 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 20 Nov 1998 06:40:05 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA07162; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 06:40:02 -0600 From: "Jim Cullen" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Partly PDF , Partly Framemaker . . . Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 07:43:19 -0500 Message-ID: <000001be1483$59fd5b00$268799d1@oemcomputer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <199811181229.NAA02210@d1o202.telia.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > I don't have any specific answers to your questions. I would love to hear how you solve the links to the named destinations within the PDF pages. I can suggestion IXgen to help with manage the links within FrameMaker. The IXgen tool ( http://www.pacififer.com/-franks ) lets you extract, edit, then reinsert links. If you were to edit the links in a spreadsheet for example, you could use IXgen to insert them back into the FrameMaker document as a batch process. I used it with 25 documents containing over 2700 links. I had a list of titles associated with PDF files. IXgen looked through each document for each title then created the links. -----Original Message----- From: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com [mailto:owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com] On Behalf Of Richard Taubo Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 1998 7:30 AM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Partly PDF , Partly Framemaker . . . b < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Hi! I have a couple of questions about pdf features in Framemaker that could be posted both to the Framemaker list and the PDF list, but I chose the latter-itŽs the best list ever ;) (sorry if I cause any inconvenience). I am making a catalogue in Framemaker with links to a lot of pdf files-these files are not originating from Framemaker so I cannot make these links as easily as I otherwise could. Being able to the save the catalogue to both pdf and html is the reason I choose to use Framemaker in this case (One note: If I save the catalogue in html, I will need to change all the references to my pdf files from .htm/.html to .pdf. Framemaker use the extension of the saved file (.htm/.html) when trying to link to my pdf files- this is not a big issue though, as it can be easily fixed in a text editor by replacing .htm/.html with .pdf). And now to my questions: Today I have chosen to link to my pdf files in the Framemaker document using the Hypertext command: "Jump to Named Destination" with the syntax: "gotolink MyPDFfile:1". MyPDFfile is the file of a given pdf file, 1 is the linkname. I just put 1 as the linkname because I am asked to provide a linkname, it does not seem to matter which number or name I use for this name-I have not made any named destinations in the pdf files. Now I wonder: a) Is there a problem using a random linkname in this case? b) Are there any better ways of linking to pdf documents from Framemaker? (when I do not have the original files from where the pdf files are made) c) Is it possible to link to a specific page/place in a pdf document from Framemaker without having to make/save named destinations in each of the pdf documents (are there any generic tags/marks in the pdf file that I can use for this purpose)? BTW I have tried my linking-method and have gotten both a fine html and pdf "pilot" catalogue with working links. I am not able to check my links directly in Framemaker this way, though, as Framemaker will not open other programs using the chosen hypertext command. Thanks for any help! Best Regards Richard Taubo Bergersen ltd.-Oslo, Norway __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 20-Nov-1998 14:35:30-GMT,4174;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA27461 for ; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 07:35:29 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA14436; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 08:28:47 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 20 Nov 1998 08:26:45 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA14279; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 08:26:42 -0600 Message-ID: <94C92F085410D21194FE006097B7B2F279AF87@dal-01-msg.objectspace.com> From: Chris Marich To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Max number of open files problem in Acrobat. Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 08:26:05 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id IAA14271 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > There must be a fix for this. It seems that if there isn't, then the PDF plug in for a browser is WORTHLESS. -----Original Message----- From: peter@originalab.se [SMTP:peter@originalab.se] Sent: Friday, November 20, 1998 7:16 AM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: SV: [PDF] Max number of open files problem in Acrobat. < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Asked the same question before! Even more, why should users of Acrobat have to bother about this at all? Why does Reader not close file 1 (of 10) automatically when file 11 is pulled? Peter Reichel peter@originalab.se http://www.originalab.se -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- Från: Chris Marich Till: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' Datum: den 20 november 1998 07:00 Ämne: [PDF] Max number of open files problem in Acrobat. > >< ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > >We have a web site that publishes various reports in PDF. The browser (IE or >NS) brings up the Acrobat reader plugin and displays the report. After the >9th or 10th display Acrobat reader issues an error message: > >"The maximum number of files are already open. No other files can be opened >or printed until some are closed." > >A user of the web site cannot view any more PDF files until they close the >PDF viewer that is opened by the IE plug in. I don't even want the PDF >files cached. > >How do I make this stop? I got the AutoClose plugin from Adobe but it won't >install. The instructions make no sense. Will the AutoClose plugin solve >my problem? If so, how do you install it? Is there a better way to solve >this problem? Thanks. > >__________________________________________________________________ > >PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" > >@ PDF Showcase: >__________________________________________________________________ > > __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 20-Nov-1998 14:39:45-GMT,4734;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA27548 for ; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 07:39:44 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA15166; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 08:38:37 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 20 Nov 1998 08:37:19 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA15065; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 08:37:16 -0600 From: robert.richard@hrdc-drhc.gc.ca Date: Fri, 20 Nov 98 9:34:55 -0500 Message-ID: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Max number of open files problem in Acrobat. X-Incognito-SN: 1396 X-Incognito-Version: 4.11.23 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id IAA15049 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Maybe suggest to contact Adobe.com or Third party who made plug-in. Does not look normal. Robert Richard. ------------- Original Text From: "Chris Marich" , on 11/20/98 10:26 AM: < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > There must be a fix for this. It seems that if there isn't, then the PDF plug in for a browser is WORTHLESS. -----Original Message----- From: peter@originalab.se [SMTP:peter@originalab.se] Sent: Friday, November 20, 1998 7:16 AM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: SV: [PDF] Max number of open files problem in Acrobat. < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Asked the same question before! Even more, why should users of Acrobat have to bother about this at all? Why does Reader not close file 1 (of 10) automatically when file 11 is pulled? Peter Reichel peter@originalab.se http://www.originalab.se -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- Från: Chris Marich Till: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' Datum: den 20 november 1998 07:00 Ämne: [PDF] Max number of open files problem in Acrobat. > >< ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > >We have a web site that publishes various reports in PDF. The browser (IE or >NS) brings up the Acrobat reader plugin and displays the report. After the >9th or 10th display Acrobat reader issues an error message: > >"The maximum number of files are already open. No other files can be opened >or printed until some are closed." > >A user of the web site cannot view any more PDF files until they close the >PDF viewer that is opened by the IE plug in. I don't even want the PDF >files cached. > >How do I make this stop? I got the AutoClose plugin from Adobe but it won't >install. The instructions make no sense. Will the AutoClose plugin solve >my problem? If so, how do you install it? Is there a better way to solve >this problem? Thanks. > >__________________________________________________________________ > >PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" > >@ PDF Showcase: >__________________________________________________________________ > > __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 20-Nov-1998 15:23:00-GMT,8650;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA28486 for ; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 08:22:53 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA18167; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 09:19:10 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 20 Nov 1998 09:16:06 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA17880; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 09:16:03 -0600 From: Laura.Dietz@arcor.net X-Lotus-FromDomain: ARCOR To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <412566C2.0053DB23.00@slz-01-hub01.cni.net> Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 16:15:53 +0100 Subject: Antwort: Re: Antwort: RE: [PDF] TrueType handling by adobe_ps & distiller on windows - a workaround Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/mixed; Boundary="0__=rRGSd6PewdDW7UtgZW0zpYbVqF2nJNwOfJOGCSqchawgmPR8yuhWDkeC" Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > --0__=rRGSd6PewdDW7UtgZW0zpYbVqF2nJNwOfJOGCSqchawgmPR8yuhWDkeC Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable ---------------------- Weitergeleitet von Laura Dietz/FIO_EXT/Eschborn/Arcor on 20.11.98 16:15 ------------------------= --- Absender: Laura Dietz, FIO, B=FCro: 312 20.11.98, 15:55 Telefon: (950) 5720, Extern: (069) 2169 - 5720, Fax: - 3939 _______________________________________________________________________= ____ __________ _______________________________________________________________________= ____ __________ An: Dov Isaacs Kopie: Thema: Antwort: Re: Antwort: RE: [PDF] TrueType handling by adobe_ps &= distiller on windows - a workaround (Document link not convert= ed) Einstufung: offen Hi Dov, Maybe patching isn't the right expression. But ATM Deluxe modifies the PS-Driver in a way, that lets you choose between standards like Type42,= Outlines, etc PLUS the given PostScript Fonts. And believe me .. this IS possible. Regards, Laura Dietz =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Mannesmann Arcor AG & Co., K=F6lnerstr. 5, 65760 Eschborn =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Laura Dietz, FIO E-Mail: Laura.Dietz@arcor.net Phone: (069) 2169 - 5720, Fax: - 3939 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D For more information: http://www.arcor.net =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Dov Isaacs on 16.11.98 18:34:11 An: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com, Laura Dietz/FIO_EXT/Eschborn/Arcor Kopie: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Thema: Re: Antwort: RE: [PDF] TrueType handling by adobe_ps & distill= er on windows - a workaround Einstufung: Arcor-intern = --0__=rRGSd6PewdDW7UtgZW0zpYbVqF2nJNwOfJOGCSqchawgmPR8yuhWDkeC Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline There is no way to "patch" the driver. There are, though, multiple options by which TrueType fonts may be sent to a "printer" and of course, the Distiller is considered a "printer" by the driver. The default for most "modern-day" printers is that TrueType is sent as "Type42" fonts, native TrueType support. The outlines and hinting of the original TrueType font are preserved in their entirety. The printout quality when printing directly to an Adobe PostScript printer OR by creating a PDF file first and then printing from Reader/Exchange to either PostScript or non-PostScript printers is clearly the best using this option. The drawback of this solution with the current version of AdobePS and Acrobat (to be fixed in next releases) is that TrueType text is not searchable. At the opposite end is the option for TrueType fonts to be sent as "bitmaps." This results in resolution dependent Type 3 bitmap font conversions of the original TrueType fonts being sent in lieu of the TrueType font. Printing fidelity is acceptable only at exactly the resolution at which the Type3 fonts were generated. Thus, for purposes of PDF creation, this solution produces terrible results. If the PostScript was generated for 600dpi and the bitmap is displayed at 72dpi, the downsampling renders the text virtually unreadable at text point sizes. Not quite as bad is the option for TrueType fonts to be sent as "outlines." In conjunction with this option, you should set the "threshold to switch" value to "1" to avoid fonts being sent partially as device dependent bitmaps. With this option, the TrueType fonts are converted to equivalent UNhinted Type1 outline fonts. Because the fonts are unhinted, at smaller point sizes (the actual size dependent on the printer/display's resolution and the design of the fonts), the fonts look emboldened, filled in, and/or otherwise of poor quality. Acrobat display of text at text sizes in PDF files that have these fonts and subsequent printing to both PostScript and non-PostScript printers is generally quite suboptimal. Very high resolution devices may "get away" with such fonts. Until the next versions of Acrobat and AdobePS come out, if one wants good display and print quality, one must choose either to use "native" Type 1 fonts (i.e., NOT converted by the OS and driver to either bitmaps or unhinted outlines) or use TrueType fonts and suffer the inconvenience of lack of search in the short term. This is certainly not what you all want to hear, but it is the current situation. Adobe is working to rectify the problem as quickly as possible, but the fix is unfortunately not just a matter a patching a few lines of code. [For those cynics amongst you, this problem was NOT done purposely to cause problems for TrueType!] - Dov At 11/16/98 07:41 AM , Laura.Dietz@arcor.net wrote: > >Einstufung: Arcor-intern >Hiya > >To all Win95/NT users, who have problems with truetypefonts... > >With Adobe's ATM (Adobe Type Manager) Deluxe you can "patch" your PS-Driver >(e.g. adobeps) to skip all TTFonts and use extra PS-fonts instead. This >means you have to get the adequate PS-Font first. > >When you distill such a PS-File, you should tell your Distiller to embed >these PS-Fonts in the PDF-Document. > >Greetings, > Laura Dietz > >fredrik.sjogren@folksam.se (Fredrik Sjogren) on 13.11.98 16:19:33 > >Bitte antworten an pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > >An: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com >Kopie: (Blindkopie: Laura Dietz/TIO_EXT/Eschborn/Arcor) >Thema: RE: [PDF] TrueType handling by adobe_ps & distiller on windows >Einstufung: Arcor-intern > >> I'm interested to know if you use NT or windows95/98. >> Also, do you have any tips on using PS fonts on NT. >> Do you work on crossplatform projects? >> Thanks >> Chris > >We have Win NT 4 (sp3). All fonts are located on the server. We use ATM 4.0 >Delux for font managment. We do not have any Macs in the network, but some >of our partners do work on Mac. if our partners uses Adobe fonts there are >no problems for us to continue to work whith the files in our NT >environment. > >> > It?s not MS, it?Adobe that cant do a PS driver that handels >> TT-fonts. Maybe >> > it?s because Adobe sell PS-fonts? >> > We have no trobles with PS-fonts in our PC environment. The >> problems starts >> > when someone tries to use TT-fonts. >> > > >\\\\fred --0__=rRGSd6PewdDW7UtgZW0zpYbVqF2nJNwOfJOGCSqchawgmPR8yuhWDkeC-- __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 20-Nov-1998 15:55:35-GMT,2840;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA29265 for ; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 08:55:34 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA20563; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 09:49:43 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 20 Nov 1998 09:46:41 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA20279; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 09:46:38 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19981120102819.00828790@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 10:28:19 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] RE: US Acrobat vs. AcrobatJ In-Reply-To: <6031CF804B89D111B9F00020AFD0D9A60250D9@mail.paravision.com > Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > It seems that they can read our PDF files just fine, but >there's a big problem with Japanese and Acrobat. > Namely: only AcrobatJ (Japanese) can handle the >character set(s?) necessary. Unfortunately, AcrobatJ seems to require >Windows95J or '98J. > For a gringo to run a machine with Win95J is somewhere >between purgatory and impossible, I think. Indeed. I had to help an acquaintance make PS to go to an imagesetter using PagemakerJ under Win95J once. It was ... um ... challenging, even though she was able to give me rough translations of the menus. You might want to check with an outfit like Pacific Rim who specialize in this sort of thing. They may have software that allows you to run Japanese language programs on a modified English version of Windows, which would ease the pain somewhat. As a possible alternative, have you investigated the Japanese add-on stuff for Word97? With it you can display and print Japanese documents (though not necessarily in the same fonts in which they were created; nor can you enter new Japanese text w/o further contortions) Steve Rindsberg/Prez RDP http://www.rdpslides.com __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 20-Nov-1998 16:04:21-GMT,2051;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA29486 for ; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 09:04:15 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA21637; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 10:01:43 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 20 Nov 1998 09:58:53 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA21381; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 09:58:50 -0600 Subject: Re: Antwort: Re: Antwort: RE: [PDF] TrueType handling by adobe_ps & distiller on windows - a workaround Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 08:58:44 -0700 x-sender: dennisw@mail.inpractice.net x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: Dennis Walker To: "PDF Mail List" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-ID: <1300570167-41259951@mail.inpractice.net> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > I guess I'm the only one who doesn't know what the heck the word "Antwort" means. It keeps showing up in the subject line of messages. Maybe I'm in for a cross-cultural lesson here. Thanks. Dennis Walker dennisw@inpractice.net EVP/Production Mgr. 435-647-9910 InPractice Publications, Inc. 435-647-5927 fax __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 20-Nov-1998 16:25:22-GMT,2589;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA00077 for ; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 09:25:16 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA23437; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 10:20:32 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 20 Nov 1998 10:17:17 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA23061; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 10:17:13 -0600 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: [PDF] RE: Antwort (what does it mean) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 16:13:39 -0000 Message-ID: <000e01be14a0$c09892e0$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <1300570167-41259951@mail.inpractice.net> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > According to the Babel Fish who lives at http://babelfish.altavista.digital.com/, "Antwort" translates to "Response". So, it's just like "RE:" at the start of a subject. Most English language mail programs are smart enough to understand what RE: means and not add it again, so you don't often see "Re: RE: re: your message"... I imagine German language mail programs, too are smart enough to not go "Antwort: Antwort: ...". By the way, you sometimes see just "AW: ". Looks like mixing languages, though can lead to a certain amount of back and forth "Antwort: re: Antwort: ...". Aandi > > I guess I'm the only one who doesn't know what the heck the word > "Antwort" means. It keeps showing up in the subject line of messages. > Maybe I'm in for a cross-cultural lesson here. Thanks. __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 20-Nov-1998 16:50:55-GMT,3924;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA00907 for ; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 09:50:50 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA25712; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 10:47:22 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 20 Nov 1998 10:44:27 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA25452; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 10:44:25 -0600 X-Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated X-Division: Core Technology X-Department: Product Interoperability Analysis X-URL: Message-Id: <4.1.19981120084314.00ac8dd0@mail-303> X-Sender: isaacs@mail-303 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 08:44:09 -0800 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Dov Isaacs Subject: Re: Antwort: Re: Antwort: RE: [PDF] TrueType handling by adobe_ps & distiller on windows - a workaround In-Reply-To: <412566C2.0053DB23.00@slz-01-hub01.cni.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id KAA25448 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Laura, Again, there is absolutely NOTHING that ATM does to the driver. The choice of fonts in whatever format is governed by the driver. ATM does provide the driver with Type 1 font management, but NONE of the TrueType font enumeration and/or rasterization is performed by ATM. Personally, I think someone must be crazy to attempt to use Type 1 fonts without ATM. However, it is possible and likewise, all the driver options with regards to Type 1 and TrueType fonts are still available. - Dov At 11/20/98 07:15 AM , Laura.Dietz@arcor.net wrote: >---------------------- Weitergeleitet von Laura >Dietz/FIO_EXT/Eschborn/Arcor on 20.11.98 16:15 --------------------------- > >Absender: Laura Dietz, FIO, Büro: 312 >20.11.98, 15:55 >Telefon: (950) 5720, Extern: (069) 2169 - 5720, Fax: - 3939 >___________________________________________________________________________ >___________________________________________________________________________ > > >An: Dov Isaacs >Kopie: >Thema: Antwort: Re: Antwort: RE: [PDF] TrueType handling by adobe_ps & > distiller on windows - a workaround (Document link not converted) >Einstufung: offen > >Hi Dov, > >Maybe patching isn't the right expression. But ATM Deluxe modifies the >PS-Driver in a way, that lets you choose between standards like Type42, >Outlines, etc PLUS the given PostScript Fonts. > >And believe me .. this IS possible. > >Regards, > Laura Dietz > >=================================================================== >Mannesmann Arcor AG & Co., Kölnerstr. 5, 65760 Eschborn >=================================================================== >Laura Dietz, FIO >E-Mail: Laura.Dietz@arcor.net >Phone: (069) 2169 - 5720, Fax: - 3939 >=================================================================== >For more information: http://www.arcor.net >=================================================================== __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 20-Nov-1998 17:00:19-GMT,2553;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA01191 for ; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 10:00:12 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA26277; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 10:54:04 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 20 Nov 1998 10:51:24 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA26071; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 10:51:22 -0600 Message-ID: <36559D78.13B2@kos.net> Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 11:48:56 -0500 From: Andrew Dickson X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Utility to manage 'annotations' to Acrobat files on CD-ROM Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Hi, We are looking for a plug in that will allow a user to annotate a PDF file that is published on a CD-ROM and store the notes in a separate file on a read/write device (hard drive or floppy). The catch is that the stored annotations pop up in the original file automatically any time the user calls up the document from the CD. The intended audience will use notebook computers, will be working remotely and need access to a relatively large collection of information on CD (more than 20 separate CDs of image+text, full-text indexed PDF files). We aren't looking to fund a custom plug-in development since the number of users is quite small and it will probably be more economical to provide information on ZIP drives and let them annotate directly in the source file. I would appreciate if anybody knows of a utility that does this respond to me off-list. Thanks in advance. Andrew Dickson, Customer Service Infoaccess Kingston, Ontario __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 20-Nov-1998 17:47:20-GMT,3849;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA02395 for ; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 10:47:05 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA30108; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 11:42:13 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 20 Nov 1998 11:40:28 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA29946; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 11:40:25 -0600 From: "Scott Hamlow" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Utility to manage 'annotations' to Acrobat files on CD-ROM Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 09:41:40 -0800 Message-ID: <000001be14ad$07bee000$45a2fecc@scotth.fourgen.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2232.26 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <36559D78.13B2@kos.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > A company called Digidox created this exact plug-in, though I don't remember what the name is. However, Digidox no longer exists. I believe the company they eventually became probably may have some information on the availability of this product. The new company is called AudienceOne http://www.audienceone.com. Good Luck. > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com [mailto:owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com]On > Behalf Of Andrew Dickson > Sent: Friday, November 20, 1998 8:49 AM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: [PDF] Utility to manage 'annotations' to Acrobat files on > CD-ROM > > > > < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > > Hi, > > We are looking for a plug in that will allow a user to annotate a PDF > file that is published on a CD-ROM and store the notes in a separate > file on a read/write device (hard drive or floppy). The catch is that > the stored annotations pop up in the original file automatically any > time the user calls up the document from the CD. > > The intended audience will use notebook computers, will be working > remotely and need access to a relatively large collection of information > on CD (more than 20 separate CDs of image+text, full-text indexed PDF > files). We aren't looking to fund a custom plug-in development since the > number of users is quite small and it will probably be more economical > to provide information on ZIP drives and let them annotate directly in > the source file. > > I would appreciate if anybody knows of a utility that does this respond > to me off-list. > > Thanks in advance. > > Andrew Dickson, Customer Service > Infoaccess > Kingston, Ontario > > > __________________________________________________________________ > > PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" > > @ PDF Showcase: > __________________________________________________________________ > > __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 20-Nov-1998 18:35:59-GMT,1872;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA03607 for ; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 11:35:53 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA00913; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 12:27:32 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 20 Nov 1998 12:25:12 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA00731; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 12:25:07 -0600 Message-ID: <3FC19483732DD2119D5D0006298457AA0182C7@SRVBO> From: "Gerdes, Ron" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] pdf42.ocx and toolbar control Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 12:25:08 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > I am using the pdf42.ocx in a VB app to display legislative documents. Is it possible to gain access to the toolbar to select the fit to width or other sizing options as the default when the document is displayed? Touchscreens on laptops are used and a default setting would be easier for the Senators. __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 20-Nov-1998 19:47:53-GMT,2641;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA05355 for ; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 12:47:48 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA05942; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 13:32:27 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 20 Nov 1998 13:26:10 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA05411; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 13:26:07 -0600 From: "Stephen Edmonds" To: Subject: [PDF] Custom PDF Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 14:26:20 -0500 Message-ID: <000301be14bb$a70dec60$ebf3c28e@steve> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > I am hoping that you all might be able to help me source an application. It deals with creating PDF documents on the fly from a document repository. Application: Training organization has a bank of courseware. Separate the static content (actual subject information) from the variable information (TOC, headers, footers, page numbers, index etc and create a document repository. An end user decides to build a course consisting of chapters 1-3 of one subject, 4,6,9 of another and 1-9 of yet another. They use a client or the web to do this, an engine then creates one consolidated PDF with page numbers, chapter numbers, TOC and index on the fly as well as a customer footer for the course, This PDF would then be sent to a place like Kinkos for reproduction on a DocuTech or similar electronic print engine. Maybe just a laser printer. Who would be a good supplier of this solution. Is it possible. Thanks, __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 20-Nov-1998 20:06:51-GMT,2258;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA05792 for ; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 13:06:48 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA08199; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 14:03:43 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 20 Nov 1998 14:02:14 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA08010; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 14:02:08 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: kfoss@mailbag.com Message-Id: Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 14:00:32 -0600 To: From: "Aandi Inston" Subject: RE: [PDF] pdf42.ocx and toolbar control Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > I may be flogging a dead horse here, but are you aware that the OCX is designed only for MSIE, and is both unsupported and undocumented? To me, that makes it unsuitable as a tool for VB and other development, though there are brave souls who believe otherwise. There are interfaces via OLE to document views, but not for the free Reader. Plug-ins are another possibility. Aandi > I am using the pdf42.ocx in a VB app to display legislative documents. > Is it possible to gain access to the toolbar to select the > fit to width or > other sizing options as the default when the document is displayed? > Touchscreens on laptops are used and a default setting would be > easier for the Senators. __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 20-Nov-1998 20:12:02-GMT,3057;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA05926 for ; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 13:12:01 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA08601; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 14:08:30 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 20 Nov 1998 14:07:19 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA08457; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 14:07:15 -0600 From: "David Cornwell" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Custom PDF Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 20:12:15 -0000 Message-ID: <000401be14c2$10eb0040$0441a8c0@davec.docctrl.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2120.0 In-Reply-To: <000301be14bb$a70dec60$ebf3c28e@steve> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > I am hoping that you all might be able to help me source an application. > > It deals with creating PDF documents on the fly from a document > repository. > > Application: > > Training organization has a bank of courseware. > Separate the static content (actual subject information) from the variable > information (TOC, headers, footers, page numbers, index etc and create a > document repository. > > An end user decides to build a course consisting of chapters 1-3 of one > subject, 4,6,9 of another and 1-9 of yet another. > > They use a client or the web to do this, an engine then creates one > consolidated PDF with page numbers, chapter numbers, TOC and index on the > fly as well as a customer footer for the course, > > This PDF would then be sent to a place like Kinkos for reproduction on a > DocuTech or similar electronic print engine. Maybe just a laser printer. PDFfusion does this and more. Check out www.docctrl.com >From the makers ... drc --- David Cornwell, Director - Business Development Computerised Document Control Ltd PO Box 5, Chepstow, Monmouthshire, NP6 6YU, United Kingdom Tel: + 44 (0) 1291 635 403 (direct) ; USA: 1-888-240-1752 Fax: + 44 (0) 1291 623 902 www.docctrl.com Forging the link between Document Systems and Acrobat > __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 20-Nov-1998 20:52:21-GMT,2334;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA07008 for ; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 13:52:20 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA11454; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 14:46:02 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 20 Nov 1998 14:44:16 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA11248; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 14:44:06 -0600 Message-ID: From: "Jessup, Samuel" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] PDF existing Illustrator files Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 12:45:05 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Hello all, How does one create (in the background) PDF files of many, many (1000's) Adobe Illustrator files? I would like to create a PDF all my Illustrator documents dating back to 1987 grouped by project but time is a major factor. I would love to do it as batch but I'm not sure how to go about doing so. My purpose is to provide Intranet page link for my staff so they can open the project specific PDF's to print out the page of their choice. In lieu of cumbersome hard copies in a file. Thank you in advance! Samuel Jessup, Graphics Department Manager, LFR - Southwest Region 1920 Main Street, Suite 750, Irvine, California 92614 * 949.955.1390 __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 20-Nov-1998 21:03:55-GMT,4146;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA07346 for ; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 14:03:53 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA12870; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 15:00:52 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 20 Nov 1998 14:59:16 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA12699; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 14:59:11 -0600 From: "Michel Laurin" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Utility to manage 'annotations' to Acrobat files on CD-ROM Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 16:01:21 -0500 Message-ID: <000001be14c8$ed4e50e0$f6d0fdcf@poste3.videotron.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <36559D78.13B2@kos.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2120.0 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Slightly off your problem, but you might be in a position to help me out since you already seem to have PDF doc's on CD with an index file generated by catalog. We are producing legal doc's on CD by indexing them through Catalog and then copying everything on a CD (we use optimize for CD ROM in catalog). The first file is accessed, but as son has we try to access the second file on the CD we get the messages "the document could not be found: it as been moved, deletedor you don't have persission to view it". we presume that is is something simple, but in the meantime quite frustrating.. Any help would greatly be apreciated mlaurin@a2i.ca > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com [mailto:owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com]On > Behalf Of Andrew Dickson > Sent: 20 novembre, 1998 11:49 > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: [PDF] Utility to manage 'annotations' to Acrobat files on > CD-ROM > > > > < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > > Hi, > > We are looking for a plug in that will allow a user to annotate a PDF > file that is published on a CD-ROM and store the notes in a separate > file on a read/write device (hard drive or floppy). The catch is that > the stored annotations pop up in the original file automatically any > time the user calls up the document from the CD. > > The intended audience will use notebook computers, will be working > remotely and need access to a relatively large collection of information > on CD (more than 20 separate CDs of image+text, full-text indexed PDF > files). We aren't looking to fund a custom plug-in development since the > number of users is quite small and it will probably be more economical > to provide information on ZIP drives and let them annotate directly in > the source file. > > I would appreciate if anybody knows of a utility that does this respond > to me off-list. > > Thanks in advance. > > Andrew Dickson, Customer Service > Infoaccess > Kingston, Ontario > > > __________________________________________________________________ > > PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" > > @ PDF Showcase: > __________________________________________________________________ > > __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 20-Nov-1998 21:56:50-GMT,2220;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA08628 for ; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 14:56:48 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA16624; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 15:49:49 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 20 Nov 1998 15:47:19 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA16431; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 15:47:17 -0600 From: alfredc@softworkscc.com Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 16:44:48 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] OS/390 and PDFs: Do they mix? MIME-version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Mailer: TFS Gateway /222000000/223041237/223003969/223100773/ Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id PAA16422 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > I work for an IBM mainframe software company. Recently I received a call from a user of one of our products. We distribute PDF versions of our documentation. This user wants to view the PDF documentation on his 3270 terminal a.k.a. a monochrome or other "dumb" terminal that is not connected to a PC or Mac but is simply plugged right into an MVS IBM mainframe. Is this possible on a text-only terminal screen? TIA, Alfred Cooper alfredc@softworkscc.com (703) 317-2424 SOFTWORKS, Inc. Alexandria, VA __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 20-Nov-1998 21:57:00-GMT,2220;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA08637 for ; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 14:56:59 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA16637; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 15:49:52 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 20 Nov 1998 15:47:53 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA16460; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 15:47:52 -0600 From: alfredc@softworkscc.com Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 16:44:48 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] OS/390 and PDFs: Do they mix? MIME-version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Mailer: TFS Gateway /222000000/223041237/223003969/223100773/ Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id PAA16455 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > I work for an IBM mainframe software company. Recently I received a call from a user of one of our products. We distribute PDF versions of our documentation. This user wants to view the PDF documentation on his 3270 terminal a.k.a. a monochrome or other "dumb" terminal that is not connected to a PC or Mac but is simply plugged right into an MVS IBM mainframe. Is this possible on a text-only terminal screen? TIA, Alfred Cooper alfredc@softworkscc.com (703) 317-2424 SOFTWORKS, Inc. Alexandria, VA __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 20-Nov-1998 22:23:26-GMT,2229;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA09373 for ; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 15:23:20 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA19165; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 16:20:32 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 20 Nov 1998 16:19:15 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA19002; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 16:19:12 -0600 Message-ID: From: "Loadholt, James" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Active-X internal errors in VB5.0 Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 17:20:01 -0500 Importance: high X-Priority: 1 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > To List, When I use the Acrobat Active X component in VB5 it is consistently generating internal error messages. After 1/2 dozen errors it will then let us launch the Reader with the targeted PDF file. Does anyone know what could be the cause of this and how to remedy the problem. Thanks very much in advance. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ James M. Loadholt Jr. james.loadholt@bowne.com Project Manager Bowne Internet Solutions 212-886-0696 - Voice 212-229-7390 - Fax ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 20-Nov-1998 22:57:24-GMT,2488;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA10168 for ; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 15:57:23 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA21528; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 16:52:40 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 20 Nov 1998 16:50:44 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA21383; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 16:50:42 -0600 X-Sender: mmccartt@siesta Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 14:55:20 -0800 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Mac McCartt Subject: [PDF] Misbehaving Bookmarks Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Can anyone help me undertand this problem? A colleague of mine produced a pdf file in which the bookmarks misbehaved. The original file was a Frame book. The book was divided into sections and chapters. In the "setup for acrobat" sections were to the left of chapters. Because of the way the book was organized, chapter 1 occrued before any section. In the resulting pdf, the book mark for chapter 1 showed at the highest (leftmost) level. Then, the book mark for Section 1 (and Section II, as well) also showed at highest level. Chapters two showed at the second level. Thus, chapters are treated differently. Is this result normal? If so, is there a way to fix this (a worrkaround) -- other than to artifically put a section level ahead of the first chapter? TIA for your expert advice - - - Electronic Signature - - - macmac mccartt (mmccartt@autoiii.com) extension 5223 - - - Electronic Signature - - - __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 20-Nov-1998 23:00:33-GMT,3594;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA10294 for ; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 16:00:31 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA22041; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 16:58:02 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 20 Nov 1998 16:56:57 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA21903; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 16:56:55 -0600 From: "Scott Hamlow" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Misbehaving Bookmarks Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 14:58:14 -0800 Message-ID: <000b01be14d9$413f9fa0$45a2fecc@scotth.fourgen.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2232.26 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > That is something you set up by clicking the Acrobat Setup button from the Print dialog box. Set the headings to the correct hierarchy from here. > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com [mailto:owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com]On > Behalf Of Mac McCartt > Sent: Friday, November 20, 1998 2:55 PM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: [PDF] Misbehaving Bookmarks > > > > < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > > Can anyone help me undertand this problem? > > A colleague of mine produced a pdf file in which the bookmarks misbehaved. > > The original file was a Frame book. > > The book was divided into sections and chapters. In the "setup > for acrobat" > sections were to the left of chapters. > > Because of the way the book was organized, chapter 1 occrued before any > section. > > In the resulting pdf, the book mark for chapter 1 showed at the highest > (leftmost) level. Then, the book mark for Section 1 (and Section II, as > well) also showed at highest level. > Chapters two showed at the second level. Thus, chapters are treated > differently. > > Is this result normal? If so, is there a way to fix this (a > worrkaround) -- > other than to artifically put a section level ahead of the first chapter? > > TIA for your expert advice > > > - - - Electronic Signature - - - > macmac mccartt (mmccartt@autoiii.com) > extension 5223 > - - - Electronic Signature - - - > > > > __________________________________________________________________ > > PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" > > @ PDF Showcase: > __________________________________________________________________ > > __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 20-Nov-1998 23:03:35-GMT,5598;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA10371 for ; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 16:03:29 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA22340; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 17:01:04 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 20 Nov 1998 16:59:58 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA22203; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 16:59:56 -0600 Message-ID: <90001230CD9ED111B47F00608CF26D1E13DB82@ARTHUR> From: Karl De Abrew To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Max number of open files problem in Acrobat. Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1998 09:59:43 +1100 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1459.44) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id QAA22199 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Hello all, There are two issues here: 1. Installation of the AutoClose plugin (assuming that you need it). 2. Whether you actually need the AutoClose plugin at all. 1. Installation of the AutoClose plugin (assuming that you need it) I have just downloaded the closew32.exe file from the Adobe FTP site and installed it. Here are some more detailed instructions for its installation. 1.1 Download the file closew32.exe to a known location (your desktop perhaps) 1.2 Double click on the file. 1.3 Click "OK" to the licensing message that comes up. 1.4 Unzip the files to a known location. I was prompted with c:\temp, which was fine by me. 1.5 The readme.wri file will automatically open. I read it, and then closed it. I noted that documentation referred to Exchange 3.0 (and later), which means that this was probably written before the 3.01 update. 1.6 You now need to copy the file C:\temp\ADOBE\CLOSEW32\autoclos.api to the c:\acrobat3\reader\plug_ins folder 1.7 Copy the file c:\temp\adobe\closew32\autoclos.ini to the c:\windows folder 1.8 Double click on the file c:\windows\autoclos.ini and change the line MaxDocs=2 to MaxDocs=10 and save the file. If you restart Acrobat Reader you should be up and away. n.b. all folder references to c:\windows, c:\temp and c:\acrobat3 should be altered to the actual folder names on your computer. 2. Whether you actually need the AutoClose plugin at all. I believe that Acrobat Reader and Exchange 3.01 (and higher I assume :) automatically incoporate the functionality of the AutoClose plugin AutoClos.api. I say this for two reasons. Firstly, I do not have the AutoClos.api installed on either Reader or Exchange but the LRU document always closes automatically (whether in a browser or not). Secondly because the Readme2 (for Acrobat Exchange) file in c:\acrobat3 states that ... //// Open Docments / Maximum Number - The maximum number of open documents at any one time is 10. When you open another document, the least-recently document is automatically closed. [175535] //// Therefore if it is possible to upgrade your Acrobat Reader installations to 3.01 I suggest that you try this (as there are other corrections included in this update). If you have a considerable sized user-base (internal), or a client base that is out of your control (external clients for example), then you may wish to choose the AutoClose plugin over the upgrade to 3.01 (I am assuming that either you, or some of your clients must have Acrobat Reader 3.0 not 3.01) I hope that this is of assistance to you (and that I have been correct in my assumptions ) kind regards, Karl De Abrew karl@roundtable.com.au A Round Table Solution - PlanetPDF coming soon... http://www.roundtable.com.au/ -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- Från: Chris Marich Till: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' Datum: den 20 november 1998 07:00 Ämne: [PDF] Max number of open files problem in Acrobat. > >< ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > >We have a web site that publishes various reports in PDF. The browser (IE or >NS) brings up the Acrobat reader plugin and displays the report. After the >9th or 10th display Acrobat reader issues an error message: > >"The maximum number of files are already open. No other files can be opened >or printed until some are closed." > >A user of the web site cannot view any more PDF files until they close the >PDF viewer that is opened by the IE plug in. I don't even want the PDF >files cached. > >How do I make this stop? I got the AutoClose plugin from Adobe but it won't >install. The instructions make no sense. Will the AutoClose plugin solve >my problem? If so, how do you install it? Is there a better way to solve >this problem? Thanks. __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 20-Nov-1998 23:06:02-GMT,2308;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA10442 for ; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 16:05:57 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA22459; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 17:02:29 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 20 Nov 1998 17:01:23 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA22349; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 17:01:22 -0600 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Active-X internal errors in VB5.0 Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 22:48:43 -0000 Message-ID: <001701be14d9$5acb8a60$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > One cause can be not having Internet Explorer properly installed. Other than that it will be because you are not behaving exactly like Internet Explorer, the only application it is designed for. Aandi > When I use the Acrobat Active X component in VB5 it is consistently > generating internal error messages. After 1/2 dozen errors it > will then let > us launch the Reader with the targeted PDF file. > > Does anyone know what could be the cause of this and how to remedy the > problem. __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 20-Nov-1998 23:14:40-GMT,3829;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA10611 for ; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 16:14:39 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA23441; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 17:11:44 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 20 Nov 1998 17:10:37 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA23398; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 17:10:35 -0600 Message-ID: <90001230CD9ED111B47F00608CF26D1E13DB83@ARTHUR> From: Karl De Abrew To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Active-X internal errors in VB5.0 Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1998 10:10:24 +1100 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1459.44) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Hello James, I think you are pretty much out of luck. The Acrobat Active X control is [intentionally] only a partial implementation of an ActiveX control. This is because Exchange is the supported method of IAC (interapplication communication) for third party developers. I suggest that you peruse the developers FAQ at http://beta1.adobe.com/ada/acrosdk/DOCS/devfaq.pdf which is an absolute must-read. It has particular references to the ActiveX control (although it says pretty much what I have said above). It really does have quite a lot of very useful information. As for alternatives for your project, I suggest that you consider (if you are keen on the use of Reader) launching Acrobat Reader through the command line (ShellExecute or WinExec in VB I believe). If you are able to use Exchange then you have many more options, including rendering the Acrobat Viewer within your own window. I suggest you grab yourself a large cup of coffee (assuming you drink it of course), and settle down for a night of fun reading the documentation at http://beta1.adobe.com/ada/acrosdk/docs.html In particular you should read anything with the words IAC in the title (this stands for Inter Application Communication). kind regards, Karl De Abrew karl@roundtable.com.au A Round Table Solution - PlanetPDF coming soon... http://www.roundtable.com.au/ -----Original Message----- From: Loadholt, James [mailto:James.Loadholt@bowne.com] Sent: Saturday, 21 November 1998 9:20 To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' Subject: [PDF] Active-X internal errors in VB5.0 Importance: High < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > To List, When I use the Acrobat Active X component in VB5 it is consistently generating internal error messages. After 1/2 dozen errors it will then let us launch the Reader with the targeted PDF file. Does anyone know what could be the cause of this and how to remedy the problem. Thanks very much in advance. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ James M. Loadholt Jr. james.loadholt@bowne.com Project Manager Bowne Internet Solutions 212-886-0696 - Voice 212-229-7390 - Fax ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 20-Nov-1998 23:16:27-GMT,2713;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA10642 for ; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 16:16:26 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA23647; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 17:13:59 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 20 Nov 1998 17:12:49 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA23532; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 17:12:47 -0600 X-Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated X-Division: Core Technology X-Department: Product Interoperability Analysis X-URL: Message-Id: <4.1.19981120151034.00b6ee40@mail-303> X-Sender: isaacs@mail-303 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 15:11:55 -0800 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com, alfredc@softworkscc.com From: Dov Isaacs Subject: Re: [PDF] OS/390 and PDFs: Do they mix? In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > At 11/20/98 01:44 PM , alfredc@softworkscc.com wrote: > >< ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > >I work for an IBM mainframe software company. Recently I received a call >from a user of one of our products. We distribute PDF versions of our >documentation. This user wants to view the PDF documentation on his 3270 >terminal a.k.a. a monochrome or other "dumb" terminal that is not >connected to a PC or Mac but is simply plugged right into an MVS IBM >mainframe. Is this possible on a text-only terminal screen? > >TIA, > >Alfred Cooper > >alfredc@softworkscc.com >(703) 317-2424 >SOFTWORKS, Inc. >Alexandria, VA EBCDIC Lives? Face-down, nine edge first! Sorry, Adobe doesn't provide such a solution. I personally don't know of any third parties that provide such a solution. Maybe someone else does? - Dov __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 20-Nov-1998 23:55:10-GMT,6547;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA11499 for ; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 16:55:09 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA26060; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 17:50:26 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 20 Nov 1998 17:49:12 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA25976; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 17:49:09 -0600 Message-Id: <199811202349.PAA28640@smtp4.nwnexus.com> X-Sender: lmead@mail.cognosinc.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 15:49:05 -0800 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Lynn Mead Subject: [PDF] Re: pdf-digest for November-20-98 [V2 #376] In-Reply-To: <199811202044.OAA11295@everglades.binc.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id RAA25957 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > I have done something similar to what you are trying to acomplish. I created a master Table of Contents in FrameMaker with links to over 350 PDF file inserted as hypertext commands. The FrameMaker file was then converted to a PDF with all links active. I used the Hypertext command "Open Document at first page" as follows: openlink pdfname.pdf:firstpage ( where pdfname is the name of your PDF and firstpage opens it to the firstpage.) NOTE: If you have "Validate command upon insertion" checked on, FrameMaker will give you an error message that it can't find the file but the link will still work once you have made a PDF of the file. I just uncheck the validate option. You don't even need the PDF file on your system (you just need to know what it is going to be named) when you insert the command. I put all the PDF files in the same directory including the TOC and it works beautifully. If you want the PDF to open at a page other than the first page you could try the hypertext comand for "Open Document at Page Number". I have not tried this but I don't see why it would work any different. One last thing. There does seem to be a small glitch to this process if you are entering a large number of links. Hope this is helpful. Lynn Mead Cognosenti, Inc. Adobe Premium VAR 425-271-2878 lmead@cognosinc.com >------------------------------ > >Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 07:43:19 -0500 >From: "Jim Cullen" >Subject: RE: [PDF] Partly PDF , Partly Framemaker . . . > >< ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > >I don't have any specific answers to your questions. I would love to hear >how you solve the links to the named destinations within the PDF pages. > >I can suggestion IXgen to help with manage the links within FrameMaker. The >IXgen tool ( http://www.pacififer.com/-franks ) lets you extract, edit, then >reinsert links. If you were to edit the links in a spreadsheet for example, >you could use IXgen to insert them back into the FrameMaker document as a >batch process. > >I used it with 25 documents containing over 2700 links. I had a list of >titles associated with PDF files. IXgen looked through each document for >each title then created the links. > >- -----Original Message----- >From: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com [mailto:owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com] On >Behalf Of Richard Taubo >Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 1998 7:30 AM >To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com >Subject: [PDF] Partly PDF , Partly Framemaker . . . > > b >< ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > >Hi! >I have a couple of questions about pdf features in Framemaker that could be >posted both to the Framemaker list and the PDF list, but I chose the >latter-itŽs the best list ever ;) (sorry if I cause any inconvenience). >I am making a catalogue in Framemaker with links to a lot of pdf files-these >files are not originating from Framemaker so I cannot make these links as >easily as I otherwise could. Being able to the save the catalogue to both >pdf and html is the reason I choose to use Framemaker in this case (One >note: If I save the catalogue in html, I will need to change all the >references to my pdf files from .htm/.html to .pdf. Framemaker use the >extension of the saved file (.htm/.html) when trying to link to my pdf >files- this is not a big issue though, as it can be easily fixed in a text >editor by replacing .htm/.html with .pdf). >And now to my questions: >Today I have chosen to link to my pdf files in the Framemaker document using >the Hypertext command: "Jump to Named Destination" with the syntax: >"gotolink MyPDFfile:1". MyPDFfile is the file of a given pdf file, 1 is the >linkname. I just put 1 as the linkname because I am asked to provide a >linkname, it does not seem to matter which number or name I use for this >name-I have not made any named destinations in the pdf files. Now I wonder: >a) Is there a problem using a random linkname in this case? >b) Are there any better ways of linking to pdf documents from Framemaker? >(when I do not have the original files from where the pdf files are made) >c) Is it possible to link to a specific page/place in a pdf document from >Framemaker without having to make/save named destinations in each of the pdf >documents (are there any generic tags/marks in the pdf file that I can use >for this purpose)? > >BTW >I have tried my linking-method and have gotten both a fine html and pdf >"pilot" catalogue with working links. I am not able to check my links >directly in Framemaker this way, though, as Framemaker will not open other >programs using the chosen hypertext command. >Thanks for any help! >Best Regards >Richard Taubo >Bergersen ltd.-Oslo, Norway > >************************* > __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 21-Nov-1998 1:01:45-GMT,1881;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA13020 for ; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 18:01:44 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA29805; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 18:56:08 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 20 Nov 1998 18:54:22 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA29708; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 18:54:20 -0600 Subject: Re: font objects (embedded) [PDF] In-Reply-To: from Simon Wong at "Nov 18, 98 03:42:30 pm" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1998 12:02:49 +1100 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL39 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: From: Gregory Tod Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Simon Wong wrote: > Basically, my question is this, how did you get the filename of the .ttf to > embed? Lengthy reply posted to the pdfdev list. -- Gregory Tod gtod@netspace.net.au __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 21-Nov-1998 2:08:47-GMT,8730;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA14330 for ; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 19:08:45 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA00791; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 20:05:03 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 20 Nov 1998 20:03:11 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA00663; Fri, 20 Nov 1998 20:03:06 -0600 Message-ID: <6031CF804B89D111B9F00020AFD0D9A60250EC@mail.paravision.com> From: Vincent Huang To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" , Geoff Marshall Subject: [PDF] RE: Survey concerning PDF users--A better PDF browser??? Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 18:21:50 -0800 X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: <6031CF804B89D111B9F00020AFD0D9A60250EC@mail.paravision.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="---- =_NextPart_000_01BE14F5.B2F7D6E0" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------ =_NextPart_000_01BE14F5.B2F7D6E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Bravo! As long as PDF is not "standard" or "Public" while Adobe has control of the spec, I am afraid no sensible human being dares to fund the development of a "better" PDF browser. Hopefully overtime XML will solve the "PDF-portable document" problem...... BTW, is "PDF" trademark of anyone??? Vincent Huang Paravision Imaging Developer of PageGenie 2000: Advanced Legacy Document Capturing for PDF Archiving http://www.pagegenie.com ======================= it's the browser stupid ! We've had fierce competition in the HTML browser arena that has resulted in a choice between at least two superb pieces of software; in the PDF arena there is no competition and that's why we have to put up with :- - un-cached screen rendering at the speed of pouring molasses, - unsolicited window resizing and layout, - unreliable keyboard translations (up/down, left/right, page up/down etc. in different modes at different magnifications... ughh), - unreliable mouse translations (does hand have arrow ?, topped arrow ? the finger ? ... double ughh). - no active feedback over hotspots or overdrawing of hotspot area. - incongruous visual metaphors for the platform (sorry Mac users, those rotating arrows really irk me). I don't know what portion of the above complaints is due to the document being browsed but I do blame the browser. The general feel of the UI is of a schizophrenic program that can't decide if it's a layout program, a form interpreter or a "book/article" browser. The survey respondents (and I) want a good PDF browser. Anyone else agree ? Is there any competition ? 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=_NextPart_000_01BE14F5.B2F7D6E0-- __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 21-Nov-1998 15:10:55-GMT,3513;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA27867 for ; Sat, 21 Nov 1998 08:10:54 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA05236; Sat, 21 Nov 1998 09:04:29 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 21 Nov 1998 09:01:22 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA05061; Sat, 21 Nov 1998 09:01:19 -0600 Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1998 10:00:47 -0500 From: Michael Vorel Subject: [PDF] OS/390 and PDFs: Do they mix? To: "INTERNET:pdf@lists.pdfzone.com" Message-ID: <199811211001_MC2-610C-2861@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id JAA05057 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Message text written by INTERNET:pdf@lists.pdfzone.com >I work for an IBM mainframe software company. Recently I received a call from a user of one of our products. We distribute PDF versions of our documentation. This user wants to view the PDF documentation on his 3270 terminal a.k.a. a monochrome or other "dumb" terminal that is not connected to a PC or Mac but is simply plugged right into an MVS IBM mainframe. Is this possible on a text-only terminal screen?< Well..... Let's see.... A primary reason for PDF is to be desktop and printer independent... Some qualifications are required.... PDF can be printed on any printer.... Some graphic objects may not be supported but text is and many times character attributes (i.e.; Bold, Underline, Italics, etc.) The simplest way albeit an ugly way to provide a level of support is to print the PDF files to an ASCII/EBCDIC printer as a print to file option The files can then be transferred to a member library on the mainframe The member files can then be viewed for text content., no pictures Ugly, but simple..... I will assume that the client is more interested in content than they are about pictures..... There may be some options to convert the PDF/Postscript back to an AFP/IPDS format that can be viwed on a 3279 class terminal, rather than the 3278 class terminal.... I know several packages that provide some interchange between PDL's... Possibly even convert the PDF file to postscript to IBM bitmap graphic... This is merely my thought on being creative with print streams and application/abuse of different competitive and non-compliant/cooperative technologies.. you may contact me offline if you wish to discuss this in more detail michael michael.vorel@bowne.com Bowne Business Solutions New York, NY __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 21-Nov-1998 15:50:29-GMT,6053;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA28497 for ; Sat, 21 Nov 1998 08:50:28 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA07688; Sat, 21 Nov 1998 09:45:09 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 21 Nov 1998 09:43:55 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA07494; Sat, 21 Nov 1998 09:43:52 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Message-Id: Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1998 09:46:47 -0600 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Kurt Foss Subject: [PDF] UPDATE> "PDF Showcase" Web feature Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > __________________________________ Table of Contents for past week's ===> "PDF Showcase" <=== a daily feature from PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com/ ___________________________________ PDF Showcase spotlights uses and users of the portable document format & Adobe Acrobat software, such as this past week's selections: * Monday, Nov. 16 -- "Waste NOT! - Fourth annual 'Use Less Stuff Day'" --------------------- http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/showcase/waste-not.html The next five weeks represent the most concentrated stretch of holiday festivities for many Americans, marked by much eating, drinking, merrymaking and gift-exchanging. And trash-tossing. According to the ULS Report, it also marks the time of year when more trash is generated than any other -- an extra 1 million tons per week. As part of its consciousness raising of "waste prevention" strategies, the organization co-sponsors "Use Less Stuff Day," and publishes in its latest bi-monthly pub a list of ways people can help bash trash at the source. * Tuesday, Nov. 17 -- "Elements Tabled - Web site links html & pdf versions of periodic table" --------------------- http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/showcase/table-elements.html If you don't know your Chemistry ABCs -- from actinium to zirconium -- this interactive Periodic Table of Elements may prove useful. But even if you're not heavy into the heavy elements, the efficient blending of a pdf version (with "weblinks") and the html version of the "WebElements" site is a classy and comprehensive example of how to use both formats in complementary fashion. * Wednesday, Nov. 18 -- "Doomsday is Near - A pdf lesson for calculating its arrival" ------------------------- http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/showcase/doomsday-rule.html There's really no need to fear the pending arrival of Doomsday. With this pdf file's concise explanation and exercises for comprehending the so-called "Doomsday Rule," one can calculate the "born on" day for any historic or future event. 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In-Reply-To: <4.1.19981120151034.00b6ee40@mail-303> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > >EBCDIC Lives? Face-down, nine edge first! > >Sorry, Adobe doesn't provide such a solution. I personally don't >know of any third parties that provide such a solution. Maybe someone >else does? > You do, though, have that server dealie that converts PDF to plain ascii. Mostly intended for people with vision problems who use software that reads the screen aloud to them, but I wonder if that couldn't be put to use in some way? Converting the ASCII results to EBCDIC should be a boatload simpler than PDF to EBCDIC. Steve Rindsberg/Prez RDP http://www.rdpslides.com __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 21-Nov-1998 17:12:15-GMT,4103;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA29990 for ; Sat, 21 Nov 1998 10:12:14 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA13547; Sat, 21 Nov 1998 11:11:14 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 21 Nov 1998 11:10:00 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA13396; Sat, 21 Nov 1998 11:09:57 -0600 Message-Id: <199811211709.JAA18906@mail2.deltanet.com> Subject: Re: [PDF] Scan tools Date: Sat, 21 Nov 98 09:12:31 -0800 x-sender: morps@mail.deltanet.com x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0, March 15, 1997 From: Mike Morper To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id LAA13392 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Ascent Capture has an underlying scripting language (very similar to Basic) that would enable you to do what you are trying to do. Cheers, Mike >< ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > >You should have a look at following softwares : >- Ascent Capture (KOFAX) which is a comprehensive capture software, with a >full set of fonctionnalities ; it works with any scanner >- Canofile for Windows (CANON) available with DR-3020 scanner (A4, >duplex), or >as a stand alone software >Both software process bar code recognition ; I don't know exactly if you can >directly define the bar code as TIF output file name, but it should not be >very difficult to automate that. >Michel Lausseur >Aalto Consultant > >Alvaro de la Hera Martinez a écrit: > >> < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > >> >> Hello, >> >> I need a scan software which can do the following process: >> >> 1. Scan the document. >> 2. Extract the bar code that the documents has. >> 3. Store the scanned document in TIFF format using the value of the >> barcode as name of the file. > >> This process must to be performed for each document, and the number of >> documents to be scanned is about 6.000 each day. >> >> Does anyone know a software that can do that ? >> >> Thanks in advanced. >> >> -- >> >> A H | >> A H | Interlinea2000 Comunicaciones, S.A. >> AAAAHHHHMMMM | Kaskotegi 4, bajo >> A A M M | 20.305 Irun (Spain) >> AAAA M | Telephone: 34-43-619101 >> | Fax: 34-43-618159 >> Alvaro de la Hera Martinez | >> >> __________________________________________________________________ >> >> PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" >> >> @ PDF Showcase: >> __________________________________________________________________ > > > > >__________________________________________________________________ > >PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" > >@ PDF Showcase: >__________________________________________________________________ > __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 21-Nov-1998 21:07:02-GMT,2614;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA04300 for ; Sat, 21 Nov 1998 14:07:01 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA26155; Sat, 21 Nov 1998 15:02:57 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 21 Nov 1998 14:57:20 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA25877; Sat, 21 Nov 1998 14:57:17 -0600 Message-ID: <014001bcf52e$b0f68d20$4fd20018@CX648066-A.msnv1.occa.home.com> From: "iiNCorp" To: Subject: [PDF] FDF/IE4 Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 13:04:14 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Hello there fellow pdf 'ers. Im new to the list (sort of) used to be subscribed many moons ago, now Im back - thanks to the fdf toolkit :-) After searching the archives I noticed a couple posts re: loading a fdf/pdf from a link within M$ Internet Exploder. There we're not any replies that I found, so Im asking (aka begging) for your assistance. Scenerio: Using ColdFusion to query a database, insert data via the Adobe ActiveX dll into a temp fdf, I then dynamically place a html link in my web page that calls/loads the temp fdf, which in turn launches the pdf form to display the data. It's all good except that this causes a new IE window to launch and display the form in the new window. (NO BAck button now) I need this to load in the current window. It doesnt appear to be a html thing. It seems to be the interaction of Acrobat 3.01 with IE4. Any suggestions? Thx, Steve Aylor Aylor Insurance __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 21-Nov-1998 21:32:19-GMT,2488;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA04751 for ; Sat, 21 Nov 1998 14:32:18 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA27693; Sat, 21 Nov 1998 15:31:08 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 21 Nov 1998 15:29:46 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA27576; Sat, 21 Nov 1998 15:29:40 -0600 Message-ID: <016201bcf533$3b248e80$4fd20018@CX648066-A.msnv1.occa.home.com> From: "iiNCorp" To: "PDF List" Subject: [PDF] Acrobat Exchange PlugIns customizations Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 13:36:43 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Can someone point me in the right direction. I'd like to find/purchase(?) some plug-in(s) for Acrobat reader that will aid in the UI of my app. Is there a way to create toolbar buttons like in M$ Word that are macro commands to automate the tasks one might do on a frequesnt basis-such as: 1. Send the open pdf form as an e-mail attachment ( launches the win95 mapi client and adds the current file as an attachment) 2. Automates the "Insert Pages" menu commands - allowing one to insert / select "multiple" pages from a DEFAULT DIRECTORY and choose more than 1 file at a time...? Possibly even convert and add on the fly word and excel docs from different locations. Thanks for your help. Steve Aylor Aylor Insurance Agency, Inc. __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 21-Nov-1998 23:23:47-GMT,3729;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA06762 for ; Sat, 21 Nov 1998 16:23:46 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA00897; Sat, 21 Nov 1998 17:20:22 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 21 Nov 1998 17:17:48 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA00713; Sat, 21 Nov 1998 17:17:45 -0600 Message-ID: <90001230CD9ED111B47F00608CF26D1E13DBAE@ARTHUR> From: Karl De Abrew To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Acrobat Exchange PlugIns customizations Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1998 10:17:32 +1100 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1459.44) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Hello Steve, You may be interested in our product RTS Joust, which is presently being re-developed to work with the Acrobat Reader. It allows you to send a file via MAPI as you have outlined. If you are using Acrobat Exchange, it will allow you to do such things as: 1. Send the current document 2. Send the current page. 2. Send a page range It also has a concept of a "list" which allows you to send more than one document at once (similar to your second suggestion). We are in the final testing stage at present, and I will be more than happy to send you a beta version of the product if you are interested. This applies to other list members also. kind regards, Karl De Abrew karl@roundtable.com.au A Round Table Solution (ARTS) - PlanetPDF coming soon... http://www.roundtable.com.au/ -----Original Message----- From: iiNCorp [mailto:iincorp@home.com] Sent: Thursday, 20 November 1997 8:37 To: PDF List Subject: [PDF] Acrobat Exchange PlugIns customizations < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Can someone point me in the right direction. I'd like to find/purchase(?) some plug-in(s) for Acrobat reader that will aid in the UI of my app. Is there a way to create toolbar buttons like in M$ Word that are macro commands to automate the tasks one might do on a frequesnt basis-such as: 1. Send the open pdf form as an e-mail attachment ( launches the win95 mapi client and adds the current file as an attachment) 2. Automates the "Insert Pages" menu commands - allowing one to insert / select "multiple" pages from a DEFAULT DIRECTORY and choose more than 1 file at a time...? Possibly even convert and add on the fly word and excel docs from different locations. Thanks for your help. Steve Aylor Aylor Insurance Agency, Inc. __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 22-Nov-1998 2:14:41-GMT,4630;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA09704 for ; Sat, 21 Nov 1998 19:14:40 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA09268; Sat, 21 Nov 1998 20:10:53 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 21 Nov 1998 20:09:04 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA09134; Sat, 21 Nov 1998 20:08:59 -0600 Message-ID: <017801bcf55a$410c5400$4fd20018@CX648066-A.msnv1.occa.home.com> From: "iiNCorp" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] Acrobat Exchange PlugIns customizations Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 18:16:03 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Thank you Karl, Bring it on! :-) Steve Aylor Aylor Insurance Agency, Inc. -----Original Message----- From: Karl De Abrew To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' Date: Saturday, November 21, 1998 3:22 PM Subject: RE: [PDF] Acrobat Exchange PlugIns customizations > >< ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > >Hello Steve, > >You may be interested in our product RTS Joust, which is presently being >re-developed to work with the Acrobat Reader. > >It allows you to send a file via MAPI as you have outlined. If you are >using Acrobat Exchange, it will allow you to do such things as: > >1. Send the current document >2. Send the current page. >2. Send a page range > >It also has a concept of a "list" which allows you to send more than one >document at once (similar to your second suggestion). We are in the >final testing stage at present, and I will be more than happy to send >you a beta version of the product if you are interested. This applies to >other list members also. > >kind regards, > >Karl De Abrew >karl@roundtable.com.au >A Round Table Solution (ARTS) - PlanetPDF coming soon... >http://www.roundtable.com.au/ > >-----Original Message----- >From: iiNCorp [mailto:iincorp@home.com] >Sent: Thursday, 20 November 1997 8:37 >To: PDF List >Subject: [PDF] Acrobat Exchange PlugIns customizations > > > >< ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- >> > >Can someone point me in the right direction. > >I'd like to find/purchase(?) some plug-in(s) for Acrobat reader that >will >aid in the UI of my app. > >Is there a way to create toolbar buttons like in M$ Word that are macro >commands to automate the tasks one might do on a frequesnt basis-such >as: > >1. Send the open pdf form as an e-mail attachment ( launches the win95 >mapi >client and adds the current file as an attachment) > >2. Automates the "Insert Pages" menu commands - allowing one to insert >/ >select "multiple" pages from a DEFAULT DIRECTORY and choose more than 1 >file >at a time...? Possibly even convert and add on the fly word and excel >docs >from different locations. > >Thanks for your help. > >Steve Aylor >Aylor Insurance Agency, Inc. > > > > > >__________________________________________________________________ > >PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" > >@ PDF Showcase: >__________________________________________________________________ > >__________________________________________________________________ > >PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" > >@ PDF Showcase: >__________________________________________________________________ > > __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 22-Nov-1998 21:03:55-GMT,2802;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA29341 for ; Sun, 22 Nov 1998 14:03:54 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA16568; Sun, 22 Nov 1998 15:59:17 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 22 Nov 1998 15:52:16 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA16108; Sun, 22 Nov 1998 15:52:15 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19981122192621.007a7600@pop.online.de> X-Sender: 1025-56@pop.online.de X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1998 19:26:21 +0100 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com, mlaurin@a2i.ca From: Reinhard Jaehnig Subject: [PDF] File not Found problem on CD In-Reply-To: <000001be14c8$ed4e50e0$f6d0fdcf@poste3.videotron.ca> References: <36559D78.13B2@kos.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > We are producing legal doc's on CD by indexing them through >Catalog and then copying everything on a CD (we use optimize for CD ROM in >catalog). >The first file is accessed, but as son has we try to access the second file >on the CD we get the messages "the document could not be found: it as been >moved, deletedor you don't have persission to view it". Do you use long file names? If you do, make sure the filenames use distinctive leading characters. If several long file names have identical leading characters, there will be a problem when displaying files from the Results list. If several filenames begin with "ABC LEGAL DOCUMENT NUMBER 123456", Acrobat will find the first file, but not the others, after copying the lot to a different disk or folder. It only works in the original folder, strangely enough. I guess it has something to do with Acrobat Catalog internally using file identifiers and short (eight-by-three ) file names. It's the short filenames that are displayed in the title bar, by the way. Hope this helps. Reinhard __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 22-Nov-1998 23:55:53-GMT,2693;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA02506 for ; Sun, 22 Nov 1998 16:55:52 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA25843; Sun, 22 Nov 1998 18:51:51 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 22 Nov 1998 18:46:49 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA25455; Sun, 22 Nov 1998 18:46:47 -0600 Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1998 18:46:24 -0500 From: Michael Vorel Subject: [PDF] File not Found problem on CD To: "INTERNET:pdf@lists.pdfzone.com" Message-ID: <199811221846_MC2-612E-8554@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id SAA25451 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Message text written by INTERNET:pdf@lists.pdfzone.com >o you use long file names? If you do, make sure the filenames use distinctive leading characters. If several long file names have identical leading characters, there will be a problem when displaying files from the Results list. If several filenames begin with "ABC LEGAL DOCUMENT NUMBER 123456", Acrobat will find the first file, but not the others, after copying the lot to a different disk or folder. It only works in the original folder, strangely enough. I guess it has something to do with Acrobat Catalog internally using file identifiers and short (eight-by-three ) file names. It's the short filenames that are displayed in the title bar, by the way.< You are correct.... Most apps use the first 8 characters and expects them to be unique... This is something that MS carries thru with all their OS's and apps.... the rest of the world follows sheepishly along... michael vorel Bowne Business Solutions __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 23-Nov-1998 2:24:05-GMT,4359;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA05348 for ; Sun, 22 Nov 1998 19:24:04 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA02062; Sun, 22 Nov 1998 21:18:46 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 22 Nov 1998 21:15:09 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA01824; Sun, 22 Nov 1998 21:15:04 -0600 Message-ID: <3658C548.5A9B@acm.org> Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1998 20:15:37 -0600 From: "Stephen D. Poe" X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] OS/390 and PDFs: Do they mix? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > >I work for an IBM mainframe software company. Recently I received a call >from a user of one of our products. We distribute PDF versions of our >documentation. This user wants to view the PDF documentation on his 3270 >terminal a.k.a. a monochrome or other "dumb" terminal that is not >connected to a PC or Mac but is simply plugged right into an MVS IBM >mainframe. Is this possible on a text-only terminal screen? > >TIA, > >Alfred Cooper Alfred - You have several issues here, ranging from mostly solvable to not at all solvable. Theoretical ----------- A 3270 tube is only capable of displaying a fixed-pitch font; i.e., you have the equivalent of an old line printer where you can only have so many rows and so many columns in each row. You can place a character in each cell, but you're pretty well limited to a small character set, and graphics are out (unless you go back to something like the old IBM ISIL Gothic character set provided with BookMaster, which will give you some ability to draw boxes on a 3270 tube). Graphics are out, as is trying to position characters in anything other than a fixed row-column matrix. Practical --------- Given that start, you then have several practical problems. If the data you have is already pure line printer, all you have to worry about is the screen can only show maybe 50-65 characters, and most line printer data is 80-133 characters wide, so you'll have to do a lot of left-right scrolling. Same thing up-down. If the data you have is straight English (with no special characters), the ASCII to EBCDIC translation will probably go OK. If not, you need a custom A2E translation. If the data you have isn't pure line printer, it will convert (in my experience) somewhere between poorly to worse when you try and go back into line mode. The more different font sizes, the more use of proportional fonts, and the more sophisticated the formatting, the worse the translated data looks. So the answer is yes, you might be able to - but will the result satisfy the functional requirements of your people? That is, if you take a PDF file, strip it of all its graphics, and force it into a straight line-printer equivalent, have you lost so much information that you're not providing what your users need? If you want to discuss your specific problem in more depth, please email me offline. Thanks, Stephen =================================================================== Stephen D. Poe, EDPP Chief Technology Officer The Xenos Group http://www.xenosgroup.com sdpoe@acm.org -or- 972.857.0776 "In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice, but in practice, there is." =================================================================== __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 23-Nov-1998 5:06:35-GMT,2031;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA08131 for ; Sun, 22 Nov 1998 22:06:34 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA10462; Mon, 23 Nov 1998 00:02:43 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 22 Nov 1998 23:59:42 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA10264; Sun, 22 Nov 1998 23:59:40 -0600 Message-ID: <365986A9.9272CF47@realworld.com.au> Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 16:00:42 +0000 From: Dean Laffan X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] File not Found problem on CD References: <199811221846_MC2-612E-8554@compuserve.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Michael Vorel wrote: > > > You are correct.... Most apps use the first 8 characters and expects them > to be unique... > > This is something that MS carries thru with all their OS's and apps.... > > the rest of the world follows sheepishly along... Does building the index on the Mac get around the problem ? Dean __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 23-Nov-1998 8:11:35-GMT,2344;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA11679 for ; Mon, 23 Nov 1998 01:11:34 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA18719; Mon, 23 Nov 1998 03:01:40 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 23 Nov 1998 02:58:36 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA18553; Mon, 23 Nov 1998 02:58:34 -0600 From: fredrik.sjogren@folksam.se (Fredrik Sjogren) To: Subject: RE: [PDF] PDF existing Illustrator files Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 08:59:50 +0100 Message-Id: <000701be16b7$3edd0150$1301090a@n11323p.intern.folksam.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Samuel Jessup wrote: > Hello all, > > How does one create (in the background) PDF files of many, many (1000's) > Adobe Illustrator files? [snipp] if it is .eps you could use Enfocus DoubleCheck. it is a batchconverter with many options. download a 30 day demo from http://www.enfocus.com/ \\\\fred -------------------------------------------- Graphics R&D voice: +46 8 772 66 36 Folksam fax: +46 8 643 45 91 S-106 60 Stockholm Sweden -------------------------------------------- __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 23-Nov-1998 10:01:19-GMT,2667;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA13693 for ; Mon, 23 Nov 1998 03:01:18 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA23697; Mon, 23 Nov 1998 04:56:30 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 23 Nov 1998 04:53:38 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA23562; Mon, 23 Nov 1998 04:53:37 -0600 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] OS/390 and PDFs: Do they mix? In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 20 Nov 1998 16:44:48 EST." Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 09:53:27 +0000 Message-ID: <21682.911814807@isode.com> From: Chris Ridd Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > On Fri, 20 Nov 1998 16:44:48 EST, alfredc@softworkscc.com wrote: > > < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > > I work for an IBM mainframe software company. Recently I received a call > from a user of one of our products. We distribute PDF versions of our > documentation. This user wants to view the PDF documentation on his 3270 > terminal a.k.a. a monochrome or other "dumb" terminal that is not > connected to a PC or Mac but is simply plugged right into an MVS IBM > mainframe. Is this possible on a text-only terminal screen? > > TIA, > > Alfred Cooper > > alfredc@softworkscc.com With the possibly gigantic proviso that it apparently hasn't been ported to MVS, Ghostscript (http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~ghost/) has a script which will convert PDF to PostScript (pdf2ps), and another script which will convert PostScript to semi-readable text (pdf2ascii). You may have your own tools to convert ASCII to EBCDIC. This won't give you a 'slick' solution for viewing PDFs on a tty, but it may be enough. Chris __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 23-Nov-1998 12:39:08-GMT,3824;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA16258 for ; Mon, 23 Nov 1998 05:39:06 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA30563; Mon, 23 Nov 1998 07:31:10 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 23 Nov 1998 07:27:00 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA30226; Mon, 23 Nov 1998 07:26:58 -0600 Message-ID: <2E785084EBC0D111999900608C14A509E9E40A@ExchangeMN2.ATK.COM> From: "Mera, Jose" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" , "'jsr@attcanada.net'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Custom PDF Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 06:26:17 -0600 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Alliant Techsystems has developed a similar application around its DocDepot product for a major bank's Trust department. Within DocDepot the user (fund manager) selects documents (PDFs, Word docs) to be presented to a client. DocDepot then collates these documents into a single PDF, paginates document (footer), and adds TOC. Document is then printed and saved as PDF. If you would like more information, contact me directly. Jose Mera DocMaestro Business Area Manager Alliant Techsystems, Inc. 13133 34th Street N. Clearwater, Florida 33762 tel: 727/572-2491 <-- new area code e-mail: jose_mera@atk.com web: http://ais.atk.com > ---------- > From: Stephen Edmonds[SMTP:jsr@attcanada.net] > Reply To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Sent: Friday, November 20, 1998 2:26 PM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: [PDF] Custom PDF > > > < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > > I am hoping that you all might be able to help me source an application. > > It deals with creating PDF documents on the fly from a document > repository. > > Application: > > Training organization has a bank of courseware. > Separate the static content (actual subject information) from the variable > information (TOC, headers, footers, page numbers, index etc and create a > document repository. > > An end user decides to build a course consisting of chapters 1-3 of one > subject, 4,6,9 of another and 1-9 of yet another. > > They use a client or the web to do this, an engine then creates one > consolidated PDF with page numbers, chapter numbers, TOC and index on the > fly as well as a customer footer for the course, > > This PDF would then be sent to a place like Kinkos for reproduction on a > DocuTech or similar electronic print engine. Maybe just a laser printer. > > Who would be a good supplier of this solution. Is it possible. > > Thanks, > > > __________________________________________________________________ > > PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" > > @ PDF Showcase: > __________________________________________________________________ > __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 23-Nov-1998 13:35:20-GMT,2295;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA17420 for ; Mon, 23 Nov 1998 06:35:19 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA00270; Mon, 23 Nov 1998 07:33:20 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 23 Nov 1998 07:30:54 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA00128; Mon, 23 Nov 1998 07:30:53 -0600 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Acrobat Exchange PlugIns customizations Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 13:22:52 -0000 Message-ID: <000501be16e4$df1b1080$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 In-Reply-To: <016201bcf533$3b248e80$4fd20018@CX648066-A.msnv1.occa.home.com> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > 1. Send the open pdf form as an e-mail attachment ( launches > the win95 mapi > client and adds the current file as an attachment) Yes, I think you can get one from www.roundtable.com.au > > 2. Automates the "Insert Pages" menu commands - allowing one > to insert / > select "multiple" pages from a DEFAULT DIRECTORY and choose > more than 1 file > at a time...? This is certainly possible, but not, of course, for Acrobat Reader as you stated. Aandi __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 23-Nov-1998 15:51:37-GMT,6785;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA20456 for ; Mon, 23 Nov 1998 08:51:36 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA11990; Mon, 23 Nov 1998 09:44:59 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 23 Nov 1998 09:41:30 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA11544; Mon, 23 Nov 1998 09:41:28 -0600 Message-ID: <94C92F085410D21194FE006097B7B2F279AF8E@dal-01-msg.objectspace.com> From: Chris Marich To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Max number of open files problem in Acrobat. Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 09:42:48 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id JAA11539 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > I just downloaded version 3.02 from Adobe and it fixed this problem. You do not need the AutoClose plugin. On a side note, the install for 3.02 for NT is mess up. After downloading the exe, don't run install until you remove the older version via the control panel and delete the files from you hard disk. After the uninstall, everything is almost ok. The plugin works in IE 4 sp1 but I get an error with Netscape 4.5. I'm still working on the Netscape error. -----Original Message----- From: Karl De Abrew [SMTP:karl@roundtable.com.au] Sent: Friday, November 20, 1998 5:00 PM To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' Subject: RE: [PDF] Max number of open files problem in Acrobat. < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Hello all, There are two issues here: 1. Installation of the AutoClose plugin (assuming that you need it). 2. Whether you actually need the AutoClose plugin at all. 1. Installation of the AutoClose plugin (assuming that you need it) I have just downloaded the closew32.exe file from the Adobe FTP site and installed it. Here are some more detailed instructions for its installation. 1.1 Download the file closew32.exe to a known location (your desktop perhaps) 1.2 Double click on the file. 1.3 Click "OK" to the licensing message that comes up. 1.4 Unzip the files to a known location. I was prompted with c:\temp, which was fine by me. 1.5 The readme.wri file will automatically open. I read it, and then closed it. I noted that documentation referred to Exchange 3.0 (and later), which means that this was probably written before the 3.01 update. 1.6 You now need to copy the file C:\temp\ADOBE\CLOSEW32\autoclos.api to the c:\acrobat3\reader\plug_ins folder 1.7 Copy the file c:\temp\adobe\closew32\autoclos.ini to the c:\windows folder 1.8 Double click on the file c:\windows\autoclos.ini and change the line MaxDocs=2 to MaxDocs=10 and save the file. If you restart Acrobat Reader you should be up and away. n.b. all folder references to c:\windows, c:\temp and c:\acrobat3 should be altered to the actual folder names on your computer. 2. Whether you actually need the AutoClose plugin at all. I believe that Acrobat Reader and Exchange 3.01 (and higher I assume :) automatically incoporate the functionality of the AutoClose plugin AutoClos.api. I say this for two reasons. Firstly, I do not have the AutoClos.api installed on either Reader or Exchange but the LRU document always closes automatically (whether in a browser or not). Secondly because the Readme2 (for Acrobat Exchange) file in c:\acrobat3 states that ... //// Open Docments / Maximum Number - The maximum number of open documents at any one time is 10. When you open another document, the least-recently document is automatically closed. [175535] //// Therefore if it is possible to upgrade your Acrobat Reader installations to 3.01 I suggest that you try this (as there are other corrections included in this update). If you have a considerable sized user-base (internal), or a client base that is out of your control (external clients for example), then you may wish to choose the AutoClose plugin over the upgrade to 3.01 (I am assuming that either you, or some of your clients must have Acrobat Reader 3.0 not 3.01) I hope that this is of assistance to you (and that I have been correct in my assumptions ) kind regards, Karl De Abrew karl@roundtable.com.au A Round Table Solution - PlanetPDF coming soon... http://www.roundtable.com.au/ -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- Från: Chris Marich Till: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' Datum: den 20 november 1998 07:00 Ämne: [PDF] Max number of open files problem in Acrobat. > >< ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > >We have a web site that publishes various reports in PDF. The browser (IE or >NS) brings up the Acrobat reader plugin and displays the report. After the >9th or 10th display Acrobat reader issues an error message: > >"The maximum number of files are already open. No other files can be opened >or printed until some are closed." > >A user of the web site cannot view any more PDF files until they close the >PDF viewer that is opened by the IE plug in. I don't even want the PDF >files cached. > >How do I make this stop? I got the AutoClose plugin from Adobe but it won't >install. The instructions make no sense. Will the AutoClose plugin solve >my problem? If so, how do you install it? Is there a better way to solve >this problem? Thanks. __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 23-Nov-1998 19:00:52-GMT,3364;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA25775 for ; Mon, 23 Nov 1998 12:00:46 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA29171; Mon, 23 Nov 1998 12:55:45 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 23 Nov 1998 12:51:14 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA28746; Mon, 23 Nov 1998 12:51:12 -0600 Content-return: allowed Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 10:50:56 -0800 From: "Cutler, Wendy MHR:EX" Subject: Re: [PDF] Survey concerning PDF users To: "'pdf-digest@lists.pdfzone.com'" Message-id: <2B38D2AA1790D1119BB200805F1529E87ABEF5@jet.bcsc.gov.bc.ca> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > I have printed the Acrobat file discussing the recommendation for what Sean Fosmire called "large format PDF" (essentially, landscape orientation and 18 to 20-point type), which is still available at http://www.courts.net/usepdf.pdf . I had to have a new driver downloaded from Adobe, and was then able to print the document two-up so that I held the page in portrait direction, with the first page at the top and the second page at the bottom. The driver update had to be installed on my PC, even though my printer is a LAN printer. I had help doing this, so I'm woefully short on details here, but this is only to say that it is possible and the document was easy to read with no changes from the screen-formatted version. I do have Acrobat Exchange, which gets called when I click on an Acrobat file, so I don't know if that makes any difference regarding my ability to use that print driver. - -----Original Message----- From: Steve Rindsberg > >The problem here is that the end user would have to have a PS driver or >Distiller and be taught how to set it all up to print correctly. > Jim Ripley responds Properly designed, an individual should only need a PS printer. I am perhaps not speaking of something that presently exists. But is it impossible to produce driver/software which would print from Acrobat Reader/Exchange to produce two 5.5x8.5 pages on one 8.5x11 sheet of paper in portrait alignment? * ^ * ^ * Wendy Cutler, Project Co-ordinator, Application Devl & Support ITB, Ministry of Human Resources (604) 660-1591 > mailto:Wendy.Cutler@gems2.gov.bc.ca from OV: EXCH01(wcutler) __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 23-Nov-1998 21:06:57-GMT,1870;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA29093 for ; Mon, 23 Nov 1998 14:06:56 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA08721; Mon, 23 Nov 1998 15:00:57 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 23 Nov 1998 14:58:24 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA08396; Mon, 23 Nov 1998 14:58:22 -0600 Message-ID: <001a01be1723$c77b66c0$330d9fcf@default> From: "Jim and Marguerite Ripley" To: Subject: [PDF] STEVE AYLOR Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 12:51:50 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2120.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2120.0 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > You need to reset your system clock. Sorry but 1997 is over! Jim Ripley 50 Rancho del Sol Camino, California 95709 USA Vox 530.644.8078 Fax 530.644.6932 jripley@ns.net __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 23-Nov-1998 22:11:06-GMT,3604;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA00687 for ; Mon, 23 Nov 1998 15:11:00 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA14761; Mon, 23 Nov 1998 16:06:10 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 23 Nov 1998 16:02:07 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA14341; Mon, 23 Nov 1998 16:02:03 -0600 Message-ID: <3659A750.D32064A4@gel.com> Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 13:20:01 -0500 From: Alan Johnson Organization: General Engineering Labs, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] OS/390 and PDFs: Do they mix? References: <3658C548.5A9B@acm.org> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------BF8441F79A4EC1F5EFA7A156" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------BF8441F79A4EC1F5EFA7A156 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The following seems to be the most feasible solution to this problem: 1) Obtain the PDF library CD (join ADA). On it is a PDFtoHTML conversion tool. It will take a PDF and generate a reasonable equivalent rep. of the file in HTML 2) Obtain the source to lynx, which is a character based HTML viewer. I don't know if its been ported to MVS, but it is probably the closest there is 3) Have the PDF files served from a web server, which can determine whether a a "graphics enabled client" is requesting, or on of these 3270 terms. Feed either the PDF or the PDF converted to the HTML via the app in (1). HTH, Alan "Stephen D. Poe" wrote: > < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > > >I work for an IBM mainframe software company. Recently I received a call > >from a user of one of our products. We distribute PDF versions of our > >documentation. This user wants to view the PDF documentation on his 3270 > >terminal a.k.a. a monochrome or other "dumb" terminal that is not > >connected to a PC or Mac but is simply plugged right into an MVS IBM > >mainframe. Is this possible on a text-only terminal screen? --------------BF8441F79A4EC1F5EFA7A156 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="alan.johnson.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Alan Johnson Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="alan.johnson.vcf" begin:vcard n:Johnson;Alan x-mozilla-html:FALSE org:General Engineering Labs, Inc. adr:;;;Charleston;SC;29414;USA version:2.1 email;internet:alan.johnson@gel.com title:IS Director tel;fax:843-556-1178 tel;home:843-559-6759 tel;work:843-556-8171 x-mozilla-cpt:;2 fn:Alan Johnson end:vcard --------------BF8441F79A4EC1F5EFA7A156-- __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 24-Nov-1998 0:41:46-GMT,4115;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA04390 for ; Mon, 23 Nov 1998 17:41:40 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA25710; Mon, 23 Nov 1998 18:35:43 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 23 Nov 1998 18:31:13 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA25341; Mon, 23 Nov 1998 18:31:11 -0600 Message-ID: <01BE1784.74DFD2A0@irsb.innosabah.com.my> From: Nathan Lim To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] [pdf] batch document info Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 08:28:46 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="---- =_NextPart_000_01BE1784.74E8FA60" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > ------ =_NextPart_000_01BE1784.74E8FA60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Anyone know where I can get a good and cheap (preferably free) batch plug-in for populating PDF document information fields? thanks in advance Nathan Lim Innosabah Securities Sdn Bhd Kota Kinabalu, Sabah, Malaysia Tele : +60 (88) 234 090 ext 6615 Fax : +60 (88) 241 992 mailto:nathan.L@innosabah.com.my http://www.innosabah.com.my ------ =_NextPart_000_01BE1784.74E8FA60 Content-Type: application/ms-tnef Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 eJ8+Ii8AAQaQCAAEAAAAAAABAAEAAQeQBgAIAAAA5AQAAAAAAADoAAEIgAcAGAAAAElQTS5NaWNy b3NvZnQgTWFpbC5Ob3RlADEIAQ2ABAACAAAAAgACAAEEkAYAJAEAAAEAAAAMAAAAAwAAMAIAAAAL AA8OAAAAAAIB/w8BAAAASQAAAAAAAACBKx+kvqMQGZ1uAN0BD1QCAAAAAHBkZkBsaXN0cy5wZGZ6 b25lLmNvbQBTTVRQAHBkZkBsaXN0cy5wZGZ6b25lLmNvbQAAAAAeAAIwAQAAAAUAAABTTVRQAAAA AB4AAzABAAAAFgAAAHBkZkBsaXN0cy5wZGZ6b25lLmNvbQAAAAMAFQwBAAAAAwD+DwYAAAAeAAEw AQAAABgAAAAncGRmQGxpc3RzLnBkZnpvbmUuY29tJwACAQswAQAAABsAAABTTVRQOlBERkBMSVNU Uy5QREZaT05FLkNPTQAAAwAAOQAAAAALAEA6AQAAAAIB9g8BAAAABAAAAAAAAALONgEEgAEAGgAA AFtwZGZdIGJhdGNoIGRvY3VtZW50IGluZm8AXwkBBYADAA4AAADOBwsAGAAIABwALgACAEwBASCA AwAOAAAAzgcLABgACAAZACQAAgA/AQEJgAEAIQAAADMxQUIzNDU5NzI4M0QyMTE5NzQ2MDI2MDhD REE1MzFFAOgGAQOQBgBwAwAAFAAAAAsAIwAAAAAAAwAmAAAAAAALACkAAAAAAAMALgAAAAAAAwA2 AAAAAABAADkA4E/8ZUEXvgEeAHAAAQAAABoAAABbcGRmXSBiYXRjaCBkb2N1bWVudCBpbmZvAAAA AgFxAAEAAAAWAAAAAb4XQWX8WTSrMoNyEdKXRgJgjNpTHgAAHgAeDAEAAAAFAAAAU01UUAAAAAAe AB8MAQAAABoAAABuYXRoYW4uTEBpbm5vc2FiYWguY29tLm15AAAAAwAGEBMm54UDAAcQFAEAAB4A CBABAAAAZQAAAEFOWU9ORUtOT1dXSEVSRUlDQU5HRVRBR09PREFORENIRUFQKFBSRUZFUkFCTFlG UkVFKUJBVENIUExVRy1JTkZPUlBPUFVMQVRJTkdQREZET0NVTUVOVElORk9STUFUSU9ORkkAAAAA AgEJEAEAAADeAQAA2gEAAMUCAABMWkZ1bCYPaP8ACgEPAhUCpAPkBesCgwBQEwNUAgBjaArAc2V0 7jIGAAbDAoMyA8YHEwKDNjMPfxCHNAPFAgBwckJxEiJzdGVtAoB9FwqACM8J2TsYHzI1NQ8CgAqB DbELYG5nMTDeMxQgCwoS8gwBYwBAE3AEbnkCIGUga25vGQfgd2gEkB1QSSBjpQORZxIAIGEecG8E cA0esG4fEBGwZWFwIB4oFnANwASQAaBseSCDA1AJ4CkgYmF0EbDiIAtQdWctC4AggAWxUHBvcHUL YHQLgGcAIFBERiBkb2P2dQeAAjAgC4Ah0QDAInCHAiAggAiQbGRzPwqFZQqFdBHAbmsEICGhYeRk dgBwY2UkzAqPC5GfFdIB0AewIQAlsSBMB3CpJ5VJbh2AcwGgYSEwnwZgIyAFECJwB5FTZAOgyEJo ZCeVS28BkCxwdwuAKqEKQCwGASqxLVBN3QdAYRbQBzAnlVQkcB1QIS8ROiArNikgKDgCOCDQMjM0 IDA5CSkgZXgFQDY2MTWxJ5VGYXgvEi9LNBzgODk5MieVAMADEHRvxjos8CWiLkxAC4AqdUIuBaBt Lm15J5VoQQJAcDovL3c2YC5nNI4LRhQiMTclJhdBAAE5QAAAAwAQEAAAAAADABEQAAAAAEAABzAA 3ej0QBe+AUAACDAA3ej0QBe+AR4APQABAAAAAQAAAAAAAAADAA00/TcAANDZ ------ =_NextPart_000_01BE1784.74E8FA60-- __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 24-Nov-1998 1:32:05-GMT,2724;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA05741 for ; Mon, 23 Nov 1998 18:32:04 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA28958; Mon, 23 Nov 1998 19:28:08 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 23 Nov 1998 19:23:14 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA28611; Mon, 23 Nov 1998 19:23:12 -0600 Message-ID: <90001230CD9ED111B47F00608CF26D1E144D8D@ARTHUR> From: Karl De Abrew To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] RE: [pdf] batch document info Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 12:23:05 +1100 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1459.44) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Hello Nathan, You could piece together something in VB using the code cuts from our website, http://www.roundtable.com.au/ under the code cut, "How to set the info fields on all of the pdf files in a folder" Alternatively, you may like to try PDFWorkshop downloadable from our website, http://www.roundtable.com.au/ under the plugins section. Although it is not free, we feel that it is certainly good :) kind regards, Karl De Abrew karl@roundtable.com.au A Round Table Solution - PlanetPDF coming soon... http://www.roundtable.com.au/ > -----Original Message----- > From: nathan.L@innosabah.com.my [mailto:nathan.L@innosabah.com.my] > Sent: Tuesday, 24 November 1998 11:29 > To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' > Subject: [pdf] batch document info > > Anyone know where I can get a good and cheap (preferably free) batch > plug-in for populating PDF document information fields? > > thanks in advance > > > Nathan Lim > Innosabah Securities Sdn Bhd > Kota Kinabalu, Sabah, Malaysia > Tele : +60 (88) 234 090 ext 6615 > Fax : +60 (88) 241 992 > mailto:nathan.L@innosabah.com.my > http://www.innosabah.com.my __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 24-Nov-1998 8:52:34-GMT,4538;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA14271 for ; Tue, 24 Nov 1998 01:52:32 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA20638; Tue, 24 Nov 1998 02:48:25 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 24 Nov 1998 02:46:28 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA20391; Tue, 24 Nov 1998 02:46:25 -0600 Message-ID: <3659D571.7D544A38@execpc.com> Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 15:36:49 -0600 From: erik dufek Organization: Team OS/2 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (OS/2; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Survey concerning PDF users References: <001101be119d$355ede60$0101c6c0@gateway> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > This comment is drifting off topic, but I don't know how else to make the point. Your message talked about how electronic distribution shifted the burden (or cost) from the manufacturer to the customer when distributing documentation electronically instead of by paper. And then you said that there is a trend in software publishing to do the same with software. As a software customer, I find this to be a BAD thing. I accept it when I purchase a license for shareware. In that case, I've already tried the software and there are probably archives of it all over the world. But I strongly resent commercial software being handled the same way. When I'm purchasing software sight unseen, I expect it to be delivered on media at the manufacturer's expense. Yeah I realize it will get included in the cost of the product, but just how expensive is the alternative going to be for me? First there's my online time and charges spent downloading it and then I have to figure out how to safely copy it to a backup. How many of today's applications fit on a floppy? When reloading the application due to a disk crash or OS upgrade, I'd much rather look for a disk with a company logo than sorting through all my disks with hand written labels. In volume it costs less than a dollar to manufacture a cdrom. If the commercial application is more than 3MB, it's probably cost effective to send it out on cdrom. I'll vote with my dollars. I recently was interested in 2 different commercial applications, but since both manufacturers only had electronic distribution, they both lost the sale. The customer is always right if you don't count the potential customers you lost because you alienated them. Aandi Inston wrote: > > > Now, let's now have any illusions. If we write a manual as if it is > a printed book, then include a PDF instead of a printed manual, the > main reason we do this is to save money. Our money, not the customer's > money, they will say. There are other reasons: faster turnround if > we aren't relying on print shops, for instance. But the user may well > argue that she is being asked to print her own manual at her expense, > and will end up with an unmanagable pile of paper rather than a book. > Printed-out manuals have to be put in a binder or kept in a pile; > either way it uses more of the customer's valuable space than a neat > manual. > > No surprise which will win there. And, for software costing thousands > of dollars, it seems rather insulting not to spend a little on printed > manuals, for those that want them. > > There's one trend in software publishing which shifts the emphasis of > this point significantly. People increasingly like to buy their software > electonically. No hardcopy of any kind changes hands. In this case > electronic provision of documentation is the only choice. > __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 24-Nov-1998 8:52:34-GMT,7059;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA14273 for ; Tue, 24 Nov 1998 01:52:32 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA20639; Tue, 24 Nov 1998 02:48:26 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 24 Nov 1998 02:47:22 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA20541; Tue, 24 Nov 1998 02:47:21 -0600 From: "David Cornwell" To: Subject: [PDF] RE: [pdf] batch document info Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 08:52:28 -0000 Message-ID: <000501be1787$c3e8f2c0$0441a8c0@davec.docctrl.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0006_01BE1787.C3E8F2C0" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2120.0 In-Reply-To: <01BE1784.74DFD2A0@irsb.innosabah.com.my> X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: 000000008BC34941D872D0118E3200609740D440A4B63800 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01BE1787.C3E8F2C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Anyone know where I can get a good and cheap (preferably free) > batch plug-in for populating PDF document information fields? Local Render CLI will do this. The slight snag is that we have hungry children to feed and thus, alas, its not free. :~) Check out www.docctrl.com for more information or contact me directly. drc --- David Cornwell, Director - Business Development Computerised Document Control Ltd PO Box 5, Chepstow, Monmouthshire, NP6 6YU, United Kingdom Tel: + 44 (0) 1291 635 403 (direct) ; USA: 1-888-240-1752 Fax: + 44 (0) 1291 623 902 www.docctrl.com Forging the link between Document Systems and Acrobat > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > [mailto:nathan.L@innosabah.com.my] On Behalf Of Nathan Lim > Sent: 24 November 1998 00:29 > To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' > Subject: [pdf] batch document info > > Anyone know where I can get a good and cheap (preferably free) > batch plug-in for populating PDF document information fields? > > thanks in advance > > > Nathan Lim > Innosabah Securities Sdn Bhd > Kota Kinabalu, Sabah, Malaysia > Tele : +60 (88) 234 090 ext 6615 > Fax : +60 (88) 241 992 > mailto:nathan.L@innosabah.com.my > http://www.innosabah.com.my ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01BE1787.C3E8F2C0 Content-Type: application/ms-tnef; 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Tue, 24 Nov 1998 01:52:32 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA20637; Tue, 24 Nov 1998 02:48:25 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 24 Nov 1998 02:46:30 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA20432; Tue, 24 Nov 1998 02:46:28 -0600 Message-ID: <3659D9DC.72282B8F@execpc.com> Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 15:55:40 -0600 From: erik dufek Organization: Team OS/2 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (OS/2; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Survey concerning PDF users References: <021201be1271$05d98b20$1d0d9fcf@default> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > As a non-programmer, it seems to me like it should be fairly easy. Since every new page requires a new sheet of paper, just eliminate the first form feed to the printer and then tell the remaining data to begin printing half way down the page. Spit out the sheet and repeat. Since you're not attempting to reflow or merge the data, this should also make it printer independent. I too have the problem of trying to find the proper balance between a screen full of information and the printed sheet. The best comprimise so far is formatting 2 screens of information per page (sheet). Not ideal, but usable. Jim and Marguerite Ripley wrote: > > < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > > Jim Ripley here > > Yes but ... Word or Frame either one will allow me to choose any page size I > want. So a page size of approx. 8.5x5.5 should be the easy part and this > will display on screen quite readable with normal sized fonts. I have done > this easily as TOC pages for PDF files and they are easily readable and > print nicely except only one small page to a 8.5x11 page. > > But who wants a reduced page side by side in landscape orientation? If this > is possible why not 2 up in portrait orientation at 100%? > > I am not suggesting that this is presently possible but with the right > software/drivers this should be a piece of cake. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Steve Rindsberg > > > >It shouldn't be impossible at all. If you're willing to switch your > >dimensions around, you can presently print two letter-portrait sized >pages > on one letter-landscape page. > > __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 24-Nov-1998 11:34:16-GMT,2612;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA17114 for ; Tue, 24 Nov 1998 04:34:15 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA28861; Tue, 24 Nov 1998 05:27:56 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 24 Nov 1998 05:24:40 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA28655; Tue, 24 Nov 1998 05:24:39 -0600 Message-ID: <2E785084EBC0D111999900608C14A509E9E422@ExchangeMN2.ATK.COM> From: "Mera, Jose" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] RE: [pdf] batch document info Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 05:24:06 -0600 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > We've developed one for in-house use that populates doc info based on contents of a text file and the file name. If something like this is of value to you, please contact me directly. Jose Mera DocMaestro Business Area Manager Alliant Techsystems, Inc. 13133 34th Street N. Clearwater, Florida 33762 tel: 727/572-2491 <-- new area code e-mail: jose_mera@atk.com web: http://ais.atk.com > ---------- > From: nathan.L@innosabah.com.my[SMTP:nathan.L@innosabah.com.my] on > behalf of Nathan Lim[SMTP:nathan.L@innosabah.com.my] > Reply To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Sent: Monday, November 23, 1998 7:28 PM > To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' > Subject: [pdf] batch document info > > Anyone know where I can get a good and cheap (preferably free) batch > plug-in for populating PDF document information fields? > > thanks in advance > > > Nathan Lim > Innosabah Securities Sdn Bhd > Kota Kinabalu, Sabah, Malaysia > Tele : +60 (88) 234 090 ext 6615 > Fax : +60 (88) 241 992 > mailto:nathan.L@innosabah.com.my > http://www.innosabah.com.my > __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 24-Nov-1998 11:34:16-GMT,2680;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA17113 for ; Tue, 24 Nov 1998 04:34:15 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA28980; Tue, 24 Nov 1998 05:29:21 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 24 Nov 1998 05:26:55 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA28762; Tue, 24 Nov 1998 05:26:54 -0600 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Survey concerning PDF users Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 11:07:04 -0000 Message-ID: <001701be179c$990dad60$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 In-Reply-To: <3659D9DC.72282B8F@execpc.com> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > As a non-programmer, it seems to me like it should be fairly easy. > Since > every new page requires a new sheet of paper, just eliminate > the first > form feed to the printer and then tell the remaining data to begin > printing > half way down the page. Spit out the sheet and repeat. Since you're > not > attempting to reflow or merge the data, this should also make > it printer > independent. The "form field" idea is attractive, but flawed. Printers just aren't driven that way any more, where the form field positions to the top of the page, and everything else is positioned implicitly from that. Typically, some or all of the elements on the page include some sort of specific co-ordinate for the elements, and combining pages can be a hugely complex exercise. If you add in a requirement to scale it can become virtually impossible, depending on the printer. Aandi __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 24-Nov-1998 13:42:27-GMT,2469;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA19431 for ; Tue, 24 Nov 1998 06:42:26 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA03506; Tue, 24 Nov 1998 07:38:33 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 24 Nov 1998 07:36:30 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA03320; Tue, 24 Nov 1998 07:36:28 -0600 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 09:30:32 +0000 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: David R Evans Subject: Re: [PDF] [pdf] batch document info In-Reply-To: <01BE1784.74DFD2A0@irsb.innosabah.com.my> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Version 3.03a Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > In message <01BE1784.74DFD2A0@irsb.innosabah.com.my>, Nathan Lim wrote: >Anyone know where I can get a good and cheap (preferably free) batch plug-in for >populating PDF document information fields? Our Options plug-in (version 2) will do this well for any document information fields. See our web site for more details, or e-mail me directly. Regards David --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dr David R Evans Telephone: (+44) 115 9860048 / 9514230 Merlin Open Systems Facsimile: (+44) 115 9860048 P O Box 230 E-mail: dre@merlin-os.co.uk NOTTINGHAM WWW: http://www.merlin-os.co.uk/ NG2 1LJ, UK Acrobat resellers, specialists in Adobe Acrobat plug-ins and electronic publishing software, publishers of Acrobatics __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 24-Nov-1998 13:43:33-GMT,1872;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA19440 for ; Tue, 24 Nov 1998 06:43:32 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA03892; Tue, 24 Nov 1998 07:42:37 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 24 Nov 1998 07:41:32 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA03750; Tue, 24 Nov 1998 07:41:31 -0600 Message-ID: <365AB81F.5784@dallas.net> Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 07:44:01 -0600 From: Tony Guerry Organization: KT Publishing X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: PDF List Subject: [PDF] Batch PDF 1 Quark file into Multiple PDFs??? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > I have a 54 page Quark file that I need to PDF each page individually. Can this be accomplished with Acrobat Distiller or Exchange in some batch mode or something instead of breaking them up into 54 individual files??? Thanks, Tony __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 24-Nov-1998 15:54:34-GMT,3957;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA22189 for ; Tue, 24 Nov 1998 08:54:28 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA14838; Tue, 24 Nov 1998 09:50:34 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 24 Nov 1998 09:48:46 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA14619; Tue, 24 Nov 1998 09:48:44 -0600 From: robert.richard@hrdc-drhc.gc.ca Date: Tue, 24 Nov 98 9:09:49 -0500 Message-ID: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) To: Subject: [PDF] Inserting new page with Acrobat Exchange in resource. X-Incognito-SN: 1396 X-Incognito-Version: 4.11.23 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Basically, we have create an Enquiry On-line Resource that contains datas used by 30 agents in a telecentre environment. This resource has been solely prepared with Microsoft Word 6.0 and then printed with PDF Writer. In all, there are 12 pdf documents, one of the pdf document is called main menu and it connects to the other 11 documents. Some of these documents has over 100 pages. Inside each of the pdf documents, there is a toolbox or text boxes (colored buttons) on the bottom right of every pages. Each of the boxes or buttons usually has the following text: Search (Enable search in the resource), Contents Page, Previous Page, Next Page and Main Menu. Working with Acrobat Exchange, links were made in these text boxes or buttons to view pages in our resource. Consequently, our agents can navigate in the enquiry resource using the invisible links created in the text boxes buttons. My concern is the following: 1) When inserting a new and single page (not a replacement page) in one of the pdf document from the resource, this would mean that we need to edit links around this new page. I have made a test to insert a new page in our resource. Here is the process used: First, I opened the pdf document from the resource (the receiver) and the new page to be inserted (donor), using Acrobat Exchange. Side by side, both documents had all thumbnails showing. So, the new page thumbnail was selected with mouse click, then drag to point of insertion in the resource thumbnails (receiving document). Once finish, I then proceeded to edit new links around that new page: relinking the page before and after the new inserted page, plus doing the same with new page. By not doing these new links while using the Next Page and Previous Page buttons, it had the effect of skipping over the new page number 27: jumping from page 26 to page 28 in resource. To my understanding, I did not need to redo all links in the receiving document, just around page 27. It really seems too good to be true. Probably it is not? Hoping that this message is not too long, I suspect that the answer is very short. Thanks. Robert Richard ________________________________________ Human Resources Development-Canada (Canadian Federal Government) Employment Insurance Telecentre 1735 Bathurst, New Brunswick Canada. __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 24-Nov-1998 17:24:09-GMT,2735;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA24629 for ; Tue, 24 Nov 1998 10:24:04 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA22348; Tue, 24 Nov 1998 11:20:00 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 24 Nov 1998 11:18:12 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA22169; Tue, 24 Nov 1998 11:18:07 -0600 Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 12:17:31 -0500 From: olaf druemmer Subject: Re: [PDF] Batch PDF 1 Quark file into Multiple PDFs??? To: PDF listserver Message-ID: <199811241217_MC2-615F-629@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id LAA22153 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Tony, you can use our MadeToPrint XT for XPress 3.3/Mac (XPress 4.0 version out next week) to do this (cf. www.callas.de for a try out version). 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Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 16:02:26 -0000 Message-ID: <001d01be17c3$db2be0a0$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > 1) When inserting a new and single page (not a replacement > page) in one of > the pdf document from the resource, this would mean that we > need to edit > links around this new page.... Let's see now, to answer this, it's worth understanding how links are actually managed in PDF. Within a PDF file, there are a number of "page objects", one for each page. And, of course, there is a list of these objects, which tells you what the whole document contains. When you insert a page, you are making a new page object, and inserting it into the list. All the existing pages have to be shuffled up in the list; but the page objects themselves are not affected. When you have a link within a PDF file, it is always a reference to a page object. So, it is completely unaffected by inserting pages, re-ordering pages, or deleting pages. If you remove the target page, then the page object is deleted, and the links which used to go there are now "dead". So, links within a document are never to a page number. Links between PDF files are of several kinds. If you ignore OPEN FILE links, which are really intended for non-PDF files but happen to work on PDF too, GO TO VIEW links will store in the link the following information: - target file name - target page number In other words, such links are not tied to a page object, but go to whatever page is found at a particular location. This may not answer all of your question, but hopefully it gives some useful background to understand what is going on. Aandi __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 24-Nov-1998 19:02:51-GMT,4850;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA27098 for ; Tue, 24 Nov 1998 12:02:49 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA30250; Tue, 24 Nov 1998 12:58:29 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 24 Nov 1998 12:55:23 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA30022; Tue, 24 Nov 1998 12:55:21 -0600 From: robert.richard@hrdc-drhc.gc.ca Date: Tue, 24 Nov 98 12:56:09 -0500 Message-ID: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Inserting new page with Acrobat Exchange in resource. X-Incognito-SN: 1396 X-Incognito-Version: 4.11.23 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Very interesting reply to my question. Indeed, it gives tremendous amount of information when inserting new pages in the resource. When I mentioned page 27 in my request of information, it was merely to give an image to what happen when the said page was inserted. Secondly, before taking in charge this resource project, I ask my telecentre to purchase a book titled: The PDF Bible The Complete Guide to Adobe Acrobat 3.0 by Mark Witkowski. I was expecting that most of my questions would be answered by this book. Regretfully, it did not happen that way. Please dont misunderstand me, this book is well presented and has very resourceful information. It is a good reference book. Plus, I know for a fact that it is impossible that a book can cover everything on a particular software. But, does anyone know of a book, on the market, that would answer the kind of questions I am sending on this discussion group. Maybe I am asking too much for an author or even from this discussion group. Without this group, I would be working and doing things without knowing future impact on our resource. Now that I know what to expect when inserting pages, thank you for detailed reply. Robert Richard. ------------- Original Text From: "Aandi Inston" , on 11/24/98 12:02 PM: < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > 1) When inserting a new and single page (not a replacement > page) in one of > the pdf document from the resource, this would mean that we > need to edit > links around this new page.... Let's see now, to answer this, it's worth understanding how links are actually managed in PDF. Within a PDF file, there are a number of "page objects", one for each page. And, of course, there is a list of these objects, which tells you what the whole document contains. When you insert a page, you are making a new page object, and inserting it into the list. All the existing pages have to be shuffled up in the list; but the page objects themselves are not affected. When you have a link within a PDF file, it is always a reference to a page object. So, it is completely unaffected by inserting pages, re-ordering pages, or deleting pages. If you remove the target page, then the page object is deleted, and the links which used to go there are now "dead". So, links within a document are never to a page number. Links between PDF files are of several kinds. If you ignore OPEN FILE links, which are really intended for non-PDF files but happen to work on PDF too, GO TO VIEW links will store in the link the following information: - target file name - target page number In other words, such links are not tied to a page object, but go to whatever page is found at a particular location. This may not answer all of your question, but hopefully it gives some useful background to understand what is going on. Aandi __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ - __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 24-Nov-1998 23:26:29-GMT,2593;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA03580 for ; Tue, 24 Nov 1998 16:26:28 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA20086; Tue, 24 Nov 1998 17:22:27 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 24 Nov 1998 17:19:53 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA19889; Tue, 24 Nov 1998 17:19:51 -0600 Message-ID: <002501be1800$b6113440$2e0d9fcf@default> From: "Jim and Marguerite Ripley" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] Inserting new page with Acrobat Exchange in resource. Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 15:17:38 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2120.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2120.0 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Jim Ripley here So . . . let me see if I understand this correctly. If I need to insert a new page, say in an expanding annotated TOC, and maintain the links, I need to create and maintain the links in the source such as a FrameMaker document. Then recreate the PDF. >Andi wrote > >When you insert a page, you are making a new page object, and >inserting it into the list. All the existing pages have to be >shuffled up in the list; but the page objects themselves are >not affected. > >When you have a link within a PDF file, it is always a reference >to a page object. So, it is completely unaffected by inserting >pages, re-ordering pages, or deleting pages. If you remove the >target page, then the page object is deleted, and the links which >used to go there are now "dead". > >So, links within a document are never to a page number. > __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 24-Nov-1998 23:32:19-GMT,4083;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA03716 for ; Tue, 24 Nov 1998 16:32:18 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA20700; Tue, 24 Nov 1998 17:30:55 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 24 Nov 1998 17:29:49 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA20589; Tue, 24 Nov 1998 17:29:48 -0600 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Inserting new page with Acrobat Exchange in resource. Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 23:24:35 -0000 Message-ID: <003101be1801$b3247f20$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 In-Reply-To: <002501be1800$b6113440$2e0d9fcf@default> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > > Jim Ripley here > > So . . . let me see if I understand this correctly. If I need > to insert a > new page, say in an expanding annotated TOC, and maintain the > links, I need > to create and maintain the links in the source such as a FrameMaker > document. Then recreate the PDF. Ideally, you should always remake a PDF that way. Starting to change a PDF is a slippery slope, because at some point you may get to the point of having to recreate it, and then you have all sorts of changes to retrofit. With the right authoring tool - epecially FrameMaker - making a new PDF takes just a few minutes. I'd never edit the PDF, not even to fix a single letter typo. Otherwise - well, if you are talking just one document you can insert a page and the links expand around it. Actually, I did not cover what Frame does for cross-document links because it is almost unique. Frame links to a file name and destination name. In the target PDF the destination name refers to a page object. In other words, if you insert a page into a Frame-created PDF, then links from another Frame-created PDF into that first PDF will stay pointing to the same page, rather than the same page number. In almost all other cases, you will end up on the same page number. Confused? Then just remake the documents! Aandi > > >Andi wrote > > > >When you insert a page, you are making a new page object, and > >inserting it into the list. All the existing pages have to be > >shuffled up in the list; but the page objects themselves are > >not affected. > > > >When you have a link within a PDF file, it is always a reference > >to a page object. So, it is completely unaffected by inserting > >pages, re-ordering pages, or deleting pages. If you remove the > >target page, then the page object is deleted, and the links which > >used to go there are now "dead". > > > >So, links within a document are never to a page number. > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________________ > > PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" > > @ PDF Showcase: > __________________________________________________________________ > __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 25-Nov-1998 3:58:03-GMT,3109;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA09886 for ; Tue, 24 Nov 1998 20:58:02 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA05696; Tue, 24 Nov 1998 21:54:21 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 24 Nov 1998 21:49:03 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA05339; Tue, 24 Nov 1998 21:49:00 -0600 Message-ID: <365B7DC3.76741D6A@execpc.com> Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 21:47:15 -0600 From: erik dufek Organization: Team OS/2 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (OS/2; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Survey concerning PDF users References: <001701be179c$990dad60$0101c6c0@gateway> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Well I did admit to not being a programmer! But it can't be virtually impossible. There's a product for the Windows platform called ClickBook which somehow modifies the output headed to the printer and prints it 2, 4, 8 or 16 to a page. It's intended to print booklets from 8.5x11 documents and it's overkill for what we're discussing here, but it does intdicate it's possible to do with other than postscript printers. Aandi Inston wrote: > > < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > > > As a non-programmer, it seems to me like it should be fairly easy. > > Since > > every new page requires a new sheet of paper, just eliminate > > the first > > form feed to the printer and then tell the remaining data to begin > > printing > > half way down the page. Spit out the sheet and repeat. Since you're > > not > > attempting to reflow or merge the data, this should also make > > it printer > > independent. > > The "form field" idea is attractive, but flawed. Printers just aren't > driven that way any more, where the form field positions to the top > of the page, and everything else is positioned implicitly from that. > > Typically, some or all of the elements on the page include some > sort of specific co-ordinate for the elements, and combining pages can > be a hugely complex exercise. If you add in a requirement to scale > it can become virtually impossible, depending on the printer. __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 25-Nov-1998 11:24:51-GMT,3812;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA18498 for ; Wed, 25 Nov 1998 04:24:49 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA29858; Wed, 25 Nov 1998 05:19:49 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 25 Nov 1998 05:17:24 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA29662; Wed, 25 Nov 1998 05:17:22 -0600 X-Sender: tm@193.174.4.1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.1 Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 12:15:53 +0100 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Thomas Merz Subject: [PDF] pdfmarks in FrameMaker 5.5.6 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Message-Id: <98Nov25.121708met.140568-3@colin.muc.de> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > There has been some concern about pdfmark instructions no longer working with PS frames in FrameMaker 5.5.6. Short answer: DON'T WORRY! Long answer: PostScript code contained in FrameMaker's PostScript frames works in Frame 5.5.6 just as it did in previous versions. This also applies to pdfmark instructions. The only restriction is related to one particular pdfmark application, namely the document information. A new (mis-)feature of FM 5.5.6 works as follows: If you "Save As" PDF, Frame will insert a single pdfmark instruction before the first page's PostScript code in an attempt to set the document creator to "FrameMaker+SGML 5.5.6". Other document info attributes are not set. The catch here is that Distiller ignores other /DOCINFO pdfmarks which may occur after the first instance, even if they simply try to define other attributes such as /Author. IMPORTANT: Frame doesn't insert the /DOCINFO pdfmark when you simply print to file (as opposed to saving as PDF). Putting it all together, you have the following options if you want to set your own document information fields: - Insert an appropriate pdfmark in Distiller's prologue.ps and do the following: - add a blank line at the end of prologue.ps - copy the prolog file to the directory where the Distiller application lives. - activate the "prologue.ps/epilogue.ps" check box in Distiller's advanced job options. - close Distiller. This method has the disadvantage that the doc info will be the same for all documents. This pdfmark will override Frame's own attempt to set the doc info when you "Save As" PDF. - Don't use "Save As" PDF but generate a PostScript print file and distill it manually. In this case you may include arbitrary /DOCINFO and other pdfmark instructions in PostScript frames. There will be no difference between FM 5.5.6 and previous releases. Again, other pdfmark applications, such as inserting PDF form fields, will not be affected by this subtle change in FrameMaker 5.5.6. Thomas Merz _______________________________________________________________ Thomas Merz, Munich tm@muc.de http://www.ifconnection.de/~tm -- pdfmark Primer -- PDFlib -- Ghostscript manual -- jpeg2ps -- __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 25-Nov-1998 12:37:57-GMT,4386;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA19844 for ; Wed, 25 Nov 1998 05:37:56 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA01539; Wed, 25 Nov 1998 06:31:00 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 25 Nov 1998 06:29:17 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA01370; Wed, 25 Nov 1998 06:29:15 -0600 From: mpintar@audienceone.com (Mike Pintar) To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Survey concerning PDF users Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 07:29:58 -0500 Message-ID: <009f01be186f$5089d7c0$464018ac@mpintar.audienceone.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-Reply-To: <365B7DC3.76741D6A@execpc.com> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Jumping in late, but I'm responding to the concern over combining pages. My solution introduces the concept of creating compound PDFs (concatenated) from a repository of PDFs. We can chain together doc elements from the doc level down to the page level. We can also place new document elements as variable data, and merge that data at the time of compiling the new file. All pages are repaginated with new numbers. Check out http://www.audienceone.com >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com [mailto:owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com]On >Behalf Of erik dufek >Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 1998 10:47 PM >To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com >Subject: Re: [PDF] Survey concerning PDF users > > > >< ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > >Well I did admit to not being a programmer! > >But it can't be virtually impossible. There's a product for the Windows >platform called ClickBook which somehow modifies the output headed to >the >printer and prints it 2, 4, 8 or 16 to a page. It's intended to print >booklets from 8.5x11 documents and it's overkill for what we're >discussing >here, but it does intdicate it's possible to do with other than >postscript >printers. > > >Aandi Inston wrote: >> >> < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since >1995 -- > >> >> > As a non-programmer, it seems to me like it should be fairly easy. >> > Since >> > every new page requires a new sheet of paper, just eliminate >> > the first >> > form feed to the printer and then tell the remaining data to begin >> > printing >> > half way down the page. Spit out the sheet and repeat. Since you're >> > not >> > attempting to reflow or merge the data, this should also make >> > it printer >> > independent. >> >> The "form field" idea is attractive, but flawed. Printers just aren't >> driven that way any more, where the form field positions to the top >> of the page, and everything else is positioned implicitly from that. >> >> Typically, some or all of the elements on the page include some >> sort of specific co-ordinate for the elements, and combining pages can >> be a hugely complex exercise. If you add in a requirement to scale >> it can become virtually impossible, depending on the printer. > >__________________________________________________________________ > >PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" > >@ PDF Showcase: >__________________________________________________________________ > __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 25-Nov-1998 13:14:45-GMT,7092;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA20492 for ; Wed, 25 Nov 1998 06:14:40 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA04183; Wed, 25 Nov 1998 07:11:33 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 25 Nov 1998 07:10:18 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA04120; Wed, 25 Nov 1998 07:10:16 -0600 From: robert.richard@hrdc-drhc.gc.ca Date: Wed, 25 Nov 98 7:37:45 -0500 Message-ID: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) To: Cc: Subject: Re: [PDF] Inserting new page with Acrobat Exchange in resource. X-Incognito-SN: 1396 X-Incognito-Version: 4.11.23 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="911999416-MIME-Part-Dividor" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > --911999416-MIME-Part-Dividor Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Yes, you are right. From what you wrote, it seems that my email was clear and that readers understood the process. Before making the links for the newly inserted page, I tested Next Page and Previous Page buttons-They were on Next and Previous page in relation to the new page-it skip right over the inserted page. Also, reading Aandi reply to my questions, his information seems to corroborate my experiment. For the purpose, please find a pdf file of the said buttons we used on each pages of the resource documents. Hopefully, my clarifications are of help. Robert Richard. ------------- Original Text From: "Richard Taubo" , on 11/24/98 4:52 PM: Hi Robert! I just read your messages from 21.11 and 24.11 and had a little question: When inserting the new page, did Exchange jump over the new inserted page when using the Next and Previous button? I tried to do the experiment myself but was not able do duplicate your result. Do I misunderstand you?!? Thanks! 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Wed, 25 Nov 1998 06:39:40 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA07008; Wed, 25 Nov 1998 07:37:38 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 25 Nov 1998 07:34:46 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA06802; Wed, 25 Nov 1998 07:34:45 -0600 From: robert.richard@hrdc-drhc.gc.ca Date: Wed, 25 Nov 98 8:29:03 -0500 Message-ID: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Inserting new page with Acrobat Exchange in resource. X-Incognito-SN: 1396 X-Incognito-Version: 4.11.23 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id HAA06798 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Thanks again Aandi, If I understand your last reply to this message, taking an existing pdf page with old links and inserting in our resource would be confusing. It would keep the old links. I beleive that I am confusing myself. RRRR. ------------- Original Text From: "Aandi Inston" , on 11/24/98 7:24 PM: < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > > Jim Ripley here > > So . . . let me see if I understand this correctly. If I need > to insert a > new page, say in an expanding annotated TOC, and maintain the > links, I need > to create and maintain the links in the source such as a FrameMaker > document. Then recreate the PDF. Ideally, you should always remake a PDF that way. Starting to change a PDF is a slippery slope, because at some point you may get to the point of having to recreate it, and then you have all sorts of changes to retrofit. With the right authoring tool - epecially FrameMaker - making a new PDF takes just a few minutes. I'd never edit the PDF, not even to fix a single letter typo. Otherwise - well, if you are talking just one document you can insert a page and the links expand around it. Actually, I did not cover what Frame does for cross-document links because it is almost unique. Frame links to a file name and destination name. In the target PDF the destination name refers to a page object. In other words, if you insert a page into a Frame-created PDF, then links from another Frame-created PDF into that first PDF will stay pointing to the same page, rather than the same page number. In almost all other cases, you will end up on the same page number. Confused? Then just remake the documents! Aandi > > >Andi wrote > > > >When you insert a page, you are making a new page object, and > >inserting it into the list. All the existing pages have to be > >shuffled up in the list; but the page objects themselves are > >not affected. > > > >When you have a link within a PDF file, it is always a reference > >to a page object. So, it is completely unaffected by inserting > >pages, re-ordering pages, or deleting pages. If you remove the > >target page, then the page object is deleted, and the links which > >used to go there are now "dead". > > > >So, links within a document are never to a page number. > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________________ > > PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" > > @ PDF Showcase: > __________________________________________________________________ > __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________  __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 25-Nov-1998 14:00:35-GMT,3154;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA21359 for ; Wed, 25 Nov 1998 07:00:34 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA08576; Wed, 25 Nov 1998 07:57:24 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 25 Nov 1998 07:56:08 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA08435; Wed, 25 Nov 1998 07:56:07 -0600 Message-ID: <365C0C94.7385@acm.org> Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 07:56:36 -0600 From: "Stephen D. Poe" Organization: The Xenos Group X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Product Development Manager Needed Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > JOB TITLE: Product Development Manager STATUS: Permanent full-time LOCATION: Dallas or Toronto JOB DESCRIPTION: This position is responsible for planning, managing and implementing according to plan, the full life cycle of software program products. 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The Xenos Group....An Equal Opportunity Employer __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 25-Nov-1998 15:01:16-GMT,1876;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA23921 for ; Wed, 25 Nov 1998 08:01:15 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA13744; Wed, 25 Nov 1998 08:56:27 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 25 Nov 1998 08:54:29 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA13474; Wed, 25 Nov 1998 08:54:26 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19981125145303.00a96550@mailhost.cam.harlequin.co.uk> X-Sender: martinb@mailhost.cam.harlequin.co.uk X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 14:53:03 +0000 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Martin Bailey Subject: [PDF] PDF version history Cc: martinb@harlequin.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > I found myself being asked when each version of Acrobat and PDF was released, and couldn't remember. Does anyone have a full release history (or at least PDF 1.0 and 1.1) to hand? Martin Bailey __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 25-Nov-1998 16:31:55-GMT,2038;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA26112 for ; Wed, 25 Nov 1998 09:31:40 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA22490; Wed, 25 Nov 1998 10:26:41 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 25 Nov 1998 10:24:14 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA22165; Wed, 25 Nov 1998 10:24:11 -0600 From: "Darryl Lucas (Solvera, Handforth, UK)" To: Subject: [PDF] Where can I buy a Capture dongle (click pack)? Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 16:21:51 -0000 Message-ID: <000001be188f$beb55f60$ab7175c1@win95> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Hi All, I am writing from the UK. My Acrobat Capture 2.0 for Windows 95 "click pack" dongle has almost expired. Does anyone know of a good cheap reseller I could deal with? Thanks to All, Darryl Lucas Solvera Information Services, Handforth UK. __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 25-Nov-1998 18:27:48-GMT,4488;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA29198 for ; Wed, 25 Nov 1998 11:27:46 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA32328; Wed, 25 Nov 1998 11:57:22 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 25 Nov 1998 11:52:52 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA31737; Wed, 25 Nov 1998 11:52:50 -0600 Message-Id: <199811251752.JAA21881@smtp4.nwnexus.com> X-Sender: lmead@mail.cognosinc.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 09:52:09 -0800 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Lynn Mead Subject: RE: [PDF] Inserting new page with Acrobat Exchange in resource. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > ------------------------------ Robert, First suggestion: Use the "Execute Menu Item" action to go to Previous or Next page not "Go To View". Second suggestion: If you have created these links as form fields using Actions such as the Execute Menu Item to go to previous page, next page, etc. you can duplicate these fields (if you have the Forms Plug-in Installed) on your newly inserted page (Edit > Fields > Duplicate) and that should be all you have to do. If these links are created using the link tool then you have to recreate each one again each time you insert a new page. Lynn Mead Cognoscenti Inc Adobe Premium VAR lmead@cognosinc.com you wrote - - - snip - - - Basically, we have create an Enquiry On-line Resource that contains datas used by 30 agents in a telecentre environment. This resource has been solely prepared with Microsoft Word 6.0 and then printed with PDF Writer. In all, there are 12 pdf documents, one of the pdf document is called main menu and it connects to the other 11 documents. Some of these documents has over 100 pages. Inside each of the pdf documents, there is a toolbox or text boxes (colored buttons) on the bottom right of every pages. Each of the boxes or buttons usually has the following text: Search (Enable search in the resource), Contents Page, Previous Page, Next Page and Main Menu. Working with Acrobat Exchange, links were made in these text boxes or buttons to view pages in our resource. Consequently, our agents can navigate in the enquiry resource using the invisible links created in the text boxes buttons. My concern is the following: 1) When inserting a new and single page (not a replacement page) in one of the pdf document from the resource, this would mean that we need to edit links around this new page. I have made a test to insert a new page in our resource. Here is the process used: First, I opened the pdf document from the resource (the receiver) and the new page to be inserted (donor), using Acrobat Exchange. Side by side, both documents had all thumbnails showing. So, the new page thumbnail was selected with mouse click, then drag to point of insertion in the resource thumbnails (receiving document). Once finish, I then proceeded to edit new links around that new page: relinking the page before and after the new inserted page, plus doing the same with new page. By not doing these new links while using the Next Page and Previous Page buttons, it had the effect of skipping over the new page number 27: jumping from page 26 to page 28 in resource. To my understanding, I did not need to redo all links in the receiving document, just around page 27. It really seems too good to be true. Probably it is not? Hoping that this message is not too long, I suspect that the answer is very short. Thanks. Robert Richard - - -snip - - - __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 25-Nov-1998 20:55:22-GMT,4264;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA03178 for ; Wed, 25 Nov 1998 13:55:16 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA14179; Wed, 25 Nov 1998 14:34:36 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 25 Nov 1998 14:30:40 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA13727; Wed, 25 Nov 1998 14:30:38 -0600 Message-ID: <01BE18C2.2B5D2800@pool02b-194-7-148-204.uunet.be> From: Jan Van Pelt To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Inserting new page with Acrobat Exchange in resource. 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X-Incognito-SN: 1396 X-Incognito-Version: 4.11.23 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Unable to read your attachment. The Canadian Federal Government standard is Microsoft Word 6.0, should be changing in the next few months to 7.0. Also, it includes Powerpoint, Excel and the rest. I really regret this situation. Anxious to read your message. RRRR. ------------- Original Text From: "Jan Van Pelt" , on 11/25/98 5:21 PM: < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > [Jan Van Pelt] which __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ r __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 26-Nov-1998 2:12:19-GMT,1846;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA10920 for ; Wed, 25 Nov 1998 19:12:18 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA06030; Wed, 25 Nov 1998 20:07:41 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 25 Nov 1998 20:04:11 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA05818; Wed, 25 Nov 1998 20:04:08 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: kfoss@pdfzone.com Message-Id: Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 20:07:06 -0600 To: "'PDF List'" From: Thomas Quine Subject: [PDF] AdobeSerifMM font Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Every time I try to create a PDF file using Distiller, I get the same error in the Distiller Message window: "AdobeSerifMM font not found, using Courier." Then it flushes the rest of the job. I'm creating the source ps files with FrameMaker. What can I do to solve this? - Thom __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 26-Nov-1998 9:33:38-GMT,2459;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA19723 for ; Thu, 26 Nov 1998 02:33:37 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA07235; Thu, 26 Nov 1998 03:27:39 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 26 Nov 1998 03:22:17 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA06401; Thu, 26 Nov 1998 03:22:15 -0600 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] AdobeSerifMM font Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 08:18:21 -0000 Message-ID: <000001be191d$81b325a0$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > Every time I try to create a PDF file using Distiller, I get the same > error in the Distiller Message window: "AdobeSerifMM font not found, > using Courier." Then it flushes the rest of the job. > > I'm creating the source ps files with FrameMaker. Reinstall Distiller. It cannot find Courier or AdobeSerifMM in its font folders (whether they are installed in the system is not important). The usual causes are - not installing Distiller properly, just copying the files - moving Distiller after installing - assuming Distiller's fonts can be removed, moved or managed as if they were system fonts - removing the default folder from Distiller's font folder list. Aandi __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 26-Nov-1998 9:33:38-GMT,2553;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA19724 for ; Thu, 26 Nov 1998 02:33:37 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA07234; Thu, 26 Nov 1998 03:27:39 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 26 Nov 1998 03:22:37 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA06467; Thu, 26 Nov 1998 03:22:36 -0600 From: fredrik.sjogren@folksam.se (Fredrik Sjogren) To: Subject: RE: [PDF] AdobeSerifMM font Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 10:22:14 +0100 Message-Id: <000201be191e$412eec20$1301090a@n11323p.intern.folksam.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > Every time I try to create a PDF file using Distiller, I get the same > error in the Distiller Message window: "AdobeSerifMM font not found, > using Courier." Then it flushes the rest of the job. > > I'm creating the source ps files with FrameMaker. > > What can I do to solve this? > > - Thom It seems like you are missing some fonts in your work and Distiller tries to make a substitute with Adobe Serif MM (that you donŽt have installed). It could be a font you donŽt use in your work but itŽs included in a style sheet. \\\\fred -------------------------------------------- Graphics R&D voice: +46 8 772 66 36 Folksam fax: +46 8 643 45 91 S-106 60 Stockholm Sweden -------------------------------------------- __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 26-Nov-1998 14:28:40-GMT,2850;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA24950 for ; Thu, 26 Nov 1998 07:28:39 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA02487; Thu, 26 Nov 1998 08:24:39 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 26 Nov 1998 08:21:45 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA02225; Thu, 26 Nov 1998 08:21:43 -0600 From: robert.richard@hrdc-drhc.gc.ca Date: Thu, 26 Nov 98 9:01:12 -0500 Message-ID: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) To: Cc: Subject: Re: [PDF] Inserting new page with Acrobat Exchange in resource. X-Incognito-SN: 1396 X-Incognito-Version: 4.11.23 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Hi, Links in our Enquiry On-line resource, at the telecentre, were created using GO TO VIEW LINKS in Exchange. When I described Next & Previous Page Buttons, it had nothing to do with options within Exchange. These buttons are merely Text Boxes prepared in Microsoft Word 6.0. They are located on the bottom right of each pages in the resource. So, when our agents want to navigate in resource using Adobe Reader, they click on the text boxes that has invisible links. Just to repeat myself, the links in the text boxes were created using the GO TO VIEW LINKS. By having all these responses in regards to my questions on links, I now know that there is a Previous & Next Page option in Exchange itself. Very interesting. Thanks alot, Robert Richard. ------------- Original Text From: "Richard Taubo" , on 11/25/98 10:21 AM: Hi again! Aha, Now I understand you and it makes more sense :) I thought you meant the Next and Previous button in Exchange itself, not link buttons within the document. All the best, Richard Taubo Bergersen ltd. -- Oslo, Norway >Before making the links for the newly inserted page, I tested Next Page and >Previous Page buttons __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 26-Nov-1998 20:16:23-GMT,4647;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA01717 for ; Thu, 26 Nov 1998 13:16:22 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA24371; Thu, 26 Nov 1998 14:12:42 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 26 Nov 1998 14:10:34 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA24254; Thu, 26 Nov 1998 14:10:32 -0600 From: robert.richard@hrdc-drhc.gc.ca Date: Thu, 26 Nov 98 14:25:09 -0500 Message-ID: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) To: Cc: Subject: RE: [PDF] Inserting new page with Acrobat Exchange in resource. X-Incognito-SN: 1396 X-Incognito-Version: 4.11.23 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Aandi, In my contexte, what dynamique would occur when replacing one page in the document using Adobe Acrobat 3.01: Instead of inserting a page like previously presented. Having the knowledge you presented, this would mean that the new page is considered as a brand new page object. Thus not affecting the integrity of the links in the document. Is this correct? So, what situation would necessitated doing all the links, because of inserting or replacing a new page, in a large document? Since getting involved in our telecentre EOR project, my biggest fear was having to redo all links in a document when making updates in our resource. It was one of the reason I was looking to purchase a software that would had enable us to manage these links. But, in the past few weeks, this dicussion group has made things look alot more positive and has showed me otherwise. Robert Richard Employment Insurance Telecentre Human Resources Canada Bathurst, New Brunswick Canada. ------------- Original Text From: "Aandi Inston" , on 11/24/98 12:02 PM: < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > 1) When inserting a new and single page (not a replacement > page) in one of > the pdf document from the resource, this would mean that we > need to edit > links around this new page.... Let's see now, to answer this, it's worth understanding how links are actually managed in PDF. Within a PDF file, there are a number of "page objects", one for each page. And, of course, there is a list of these objects, which tells you what the whole document contains. When you insert a page, you are making a new page object, and inserting it into the list. All the existing pages have to be shuffled up in the list; but the page objects themselves are not affected. When you have a link within a PDF file, it is always a reference to a page object. So, it is completely unaffected by inserting pages, re-ordering pages, or deleting pages. If you remove the target page, then the page object is deleted, and the links which used to go there are now "dead". So, links within a document are never to a page number. Links between PDF files are of several kinds. If you ignore OPEN FILE links, which are really intended for non-PDF files but happen to work on PDF too, GO TO VIEW links will store in the link the following information: - target file name - target page number In other words, such links are not tied to a page object, but go to whatever page is found at a particular location. This may not answer all of your question, but hopefully it gives some useful background to understand what is going on. Aandi __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ e __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 27-Nov-1998 9:36:27-GMT,2805;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA16464 for ; Fri, 27 Nov 1998 02:36:26 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA05327; Fri, 27 Nov 1998 03:31:31 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 27 Nov 1998 03:24:53 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA04934; Fri, 27 Nov 1998 03:24:52 -0600 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 09:24:27 +0000 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: David R Evans Subject: Re: [PDF] Where can I buy a Capture dongle (click pack)? In-Reply-To: <000001be188f$beb55f60$ab7175c1@win95> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Version 3.03a Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Darryl, In message <000001be188f$beb55f60$ab7175c1@win95>, "Darryl Lucas (Solvera, Handforth, UK)" wrote: >I am writing from the UK. My Acrobat Capture 2.0 for Windows 95 "click >pack" dongle has almost expired. Does anyone know of a good cheap reseller >I could deal with? I just saw your message on the PDF list. We are resellers and could do you a good price -- I assume that you want the 20,000 page dongle. Do you have a price already? The RRP is 350 pounds but we could do it for much less. If you give me a ring on (0115) 9514230 I will give you a price -- I will be available on that number from about 10am. I look forward to hearing from you later. Regards David --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dr David R Evans Telephone: (+44) 115 9860048 / 9514230 Merlin Open Systems Facsimile: (+44) 115 9860048 P O Box 230 E-mail: dre@merlin-os.co.uk NOTTINGHAM WWW: http://www.merlin-os.co.uk/ NG2 1LJ, UK Acrobat resellers, specialists in Adobe Acrobat plug-ins and electronic publishing software, publishers of Acrobatics __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 27-Nov-1998 9:36:27-GMT,2213;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA16465 for ; Fri, 27 Nov 1998 02:36:26 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA05552; Fri, 27 Nov 1998 03:34:11 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 27 Nov 1998 03:31:45 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA05339; Fri, 27 Nov 1998 03:31:44 -0600 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 09:26:57 +0000 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: David R Evans Subject: Re: [PDF] Where can I buy a Capture dongle (click pack)? In-Reply-To: <000001be188f$beb55f60$ab7175c1@win95> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Version 3.03a Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Before the flames ensue, apologies for sending my last message to the list. I forgot to check the To: field. David --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dr David R Evans Telephone: (+44) 115 9860048 / 9514230 Merlin Open Systems Facsimile: (+44) 115 9860048 P O Box 230 E-mail: dre@merlin-os.co.uk NOTTINGHAM WWW: http://www.merlin-os.co.uk/ NG2 1LJ, UK Acrobat resellers, specialists in Adobe Acrobat plug-ins and electronic publishing software, publishers of Acrobatics __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 27-Nov-1998 15:32:54-GMT,1801;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA22523 for ; Fri, 27 Nov 1998 08:32:53 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA27222; Fri, 27 Nov 1998 09:29:10 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 27 Nov 1998 09:26:57 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA27006; Fri, 27 Nov 1998 09:26:55 -0600 Message-ID: <365EC38E.68F17D35@ccuec.unicamp.br> Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 13:21:51 -0200 From: alice X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] converter Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Hi, I need to convert many RTF documents to PDF (in batch mode). The documents have graphics, images and formulas. Does anybody know how to do it? to convert RTF to PDF or RTF to PS and PS to PDF in batch mode? Thanks, Alice. __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 27-Nov-1998 15:54:44-GMT,2860;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA22894 for ; Fri, 27 Nov 1998 08:54:36 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA29165; Fri, 27 Nov 1998 09:53:31 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 27 Nov 1998 09:52:15 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA29075; Fri, 27 Nov 1998 09:52:14 -0600 Message-ID: <90001230CD9ED111B47F00608CF26D1E144E67@ARTHUR> From: Karl De Abrew To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] converter Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 02:51:55 +1100 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1459.44) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Hello Alice, If you are a VB programmer, or you have access to one, then I suggest that you drop by our site, and checkout our code cuts. We have one titled, "How to print all of the pdf files in one folder (HTM)" which you could modify to print all the files to PS. Subsequently you could use the Acrobat Distiller to convert the PS to PDF. kind regards, Karl De Abrew karl@roundtable.com.au A Round Table Solution - PlanetPDF coming soon... http://www.roundtable.com.au/ -----Original Message----- From: alice [mailto:alice@ccuec.unicamp.br] Sent: Saturday, 28 November 1998 2:22 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] converter < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Hi, I need to convert many RTF documents to PDF (in batch mode). The documents have graphics, images and formulas. Does anybody know how to do it? to convert RTF to PDF or RTF to PS and PS to PDF in batch mode? Thanks, Alice. __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 27-Nov-1998 16:11:37-GMT,2245;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA23188 for ; Fri, 27 Nov 1998 09:11:36 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA30595; Fri, 27 Nov 1998 10:08:24 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 27 Nov 1998 10:07:09 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA30458; Fri, 27 Nov 1998 10:07:08 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19981127170810.009873d0@ms90.vtex.lt> X-Sender: sarunas@ms90.vtex.lt X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 17:08:10 +0100 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Sarunas Subject: Re: [PDF] converter In-Reply-To: <365EC38E.68F17D35@ccuec.unicamp.br> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > >Hi, > I need to convert many RTF documents to PDF (in batch mode). The >documents have graphics, images and formulas. Does anybody know how to >do it? to convert RTF to PDF or RTF to PS and PS to PDF in batch mode? >Thanks, Alice. RTF? MS Windows? Then a MS Word macro in Word Basic could open RTF and print to PS printer (print to file into Distiller watched folder). Or a scripting language like Perl for Win32, for example, should be able to do the same thing via OLE automation. Sarunas Burdulis Head Electronic Publishing VTEX Ltd. sarunas@vtex.lt +370 2 729609; +370 98 24498 __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 27-Nov-1998 16:17:38-GMT,2451;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA23291 for ; Fri, 27 Nov 1998 09:17:37 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA31380; Fri, 27 Nov 1998 10:16:32 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 27 Nov 1998 10:15:26 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA31263; Fri, 27 Nov 1998 10:15:25 -0600 Message-Id: <199811271615.LAA01722@thetube.tube.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.01 (295) Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 11:16:58 -0500 Subject: Re: [PDF] converter From: "Shane Steinman" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Alice wrote: > I need to convert many RTF documents to PDF (in batch mode). The >documents have graphics, images and formulas. Does anybody know how to >do it? to convert RTF to PDF or RTF to PS and PS to PDF in batch mode? >Thanks, Alice. Hi Alice, At one time there was an offering from Image Solutions for a product called TableMaster which could convert RTF to PDF. I checked back with their site, but was refused connection by their server. What this means is anyone's guess. Try clicking here to see if you can get a link http://www.imagesolutions.com/ The software runs under Windows and requires Exchange 3.01 to run. Until you can get a connection, click here for more details... http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_TableMaster.html Good luck, Shane -- Shane Steinman ArchAngel Media Inc. __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 27-Nov-1998 17:30:26-GMT,2270;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA24671 for ; Fri, 27 Nov 1998 10:30:20 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA04600; Fri, 27 Nov 1998 11:25:29 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 27 Nov 1998 11:22:38 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA04304; Fri, 27 Nov 1998 11:22:36 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: gcosimin@mail-345 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19981125145303.00a96550@mailhost.cam.harlequin.co.uk> Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 12:23:06 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Gary Cosimini Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF version history Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > >< ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > >I found myself being asked when each version of Acrobat and PDF was >released, and couldn't remember. > >Does anyone have a full release history (or at least PDF 1.0 and 1.1) to hand? Hi Martin: Let's see: 1993: Launch Acrobat 1.0 (PDF 1.0) 1994: Acrobat 2.0 (PDF 1.1) 1996: Acrobat 3.0 (PDF 1.2) Gary Cosimini Adobe Systems -------------------------- Gary Cosimini Business Development Manager Adobe Systems Incorporated 780 Third Avenue, 41st Floor New York, NY 10017 Reception (212) 446-3800 Fax (212) 446-3802 Email gcosimin@adobe.com __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 27-Nov-1998 19:02:15-GMT,2121;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA26480 for ; Fri, 27 Nov 1998 12:02:14 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA11640; Fri, 27 Nov 1998 12:58:05 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 27 Nov 1998 12:56:09 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA11497; Fri, 27 Nov 1998 12:56:07 -0600 Message-ID: From: Thomas Quine To: "'PDF List'" Subject: [PDF] Resolution of AdobeSerifMM font problem Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 10:47:26 -0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > A couple of days ago I wrote to the list for help with the following problem: When I tried to create a PDF file from a valid ps file using Acrobat Distiller, I got error messages saying certain fonts could not be found - "Flushing rest of job." The source file worked perfectly on my co-worker's machine. Aandi correctly identified the problem - I had moved my Adobe folder. Apparently Distiller can't find fonts after a move. I reinstalled Distiller and that solved the problem Thanks, Aandi! - Thom __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 27-Nov-1998 23:52:58-GMT,1997;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA05610 for ; Fri, 27 Nov 1998 16:52:57 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA07692; Fri, 27 Nov 1998 17:40:42 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 27 Nov 1998 17:38:30 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA07437; Fri, 27 Nov 1998 17:38:28 -0600 Message-ID: <365FD2DF.4A5E1E99@realworld.com.au> Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 10:39:29 +0000 From: Dean Laffan X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] CD Locking References: <90001230CD9ED111B47F00608CF26D1E144E67@ARTHUR> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Hi All, I know this has been covered before but I can't find anything on it... I want to master a CD with some MPEG files and about a thousand pdf's. Is there a quick and easy way to stop a SCSI copy and to restrict access to the disc ? I don't mind a commercial solution. TIA Dean Laffan Real World __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 28-Nov-1998 1:11:33-GMT,1949;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA06984 for ; Fri, 27 Nov 1998 18:11:32 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA13693; Fri, 27 Nov 1998 19:07:16 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 27 Nov 1998 19:05:40 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA13552; Fri, 27 Nov 1998 19:05:38 -0600 Message-ID: <365FE751.87D65DBD@realworld.com.au> Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 12:06:47 +0000 From: Dean Laffan X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF version history References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Gary Cosimini wrote: Let's see: > 1993: Launch Acrobat 1.0 (PDF 1.0) > 1994: Acrobat 2.0 (PDF 1.1) > 1996: Acrobat 3.0 (PDF 1.2) > > Gary Cosimini > Adobe Systems Hi Gary Can you point us to any info on V4 and projected features ? Dean Real World __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 28-Nov-1998 1:35:31-GMT,2870;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA07415 for ; Fri, 27 Nov 1998 18:35:30 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA15598; Fri, 27 Nov 1998 19:34:30 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 27 Nov 1998 19:33:16 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA15492; Fri, 27 Nov 1998 19:33:10 -0600 From: "Michael Peters" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] CD Locking Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 00:27:19 -0000 Message-ID: <000b01be1a66$4676f4e0$0280227b@michael> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <365FD2DF.4A5E1E99@realworld.com.au> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Dean, Try a company called c-dilla at http://www.c-dilla.co.uk/. Regards Michael Peters > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > [mailto:owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com]On > Behalf Of Dean Laffan > Sent: Saturday, November 28, 1998 10:39 AM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: [PDF] CD Locking > > > > < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM > since 1995 -- > > > Hi All, > > I know this has been covered before but I can't find anything on it... > > I want to master a CD with some MPEG files and about a thousand pdf's. > Is there a quick and easy way to stop a SCSI copy and to > restrict access > to the disc ? > > I don't mind a commercial solution. > > TIA > > > Dean Laffan > Real World > > > __________________________________________________________________ > > PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" > > @ PDF Showcase: > __________________________________________________________________ > __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 28-Nov-1998 4:03:19-GMT,2826;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA11229 for ; Fri, 27 Nov 1998 21:03:18 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA24851; Fri, 27 Nov 1998 22:00:06 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 27 Nov 1998 21:57:34 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA24681; Fri, 27 Nov 1998 21:57:32 -0600 Message-ID: <002101be1a83$8d21e7c0$cb2729d8@rmelanso> From: "Rick Melanson" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] CD Locking Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 22:59:51 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > I have used the following product. Very easy and somewhat less expensive than the others. But it has worked flawlessly for me. Feel free to email me with any questions. http://www.digitaldelivery.com/right.asp -----Original Message----- From: Dean Laffan To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: Friday, November 27, 1998 6:46 PM Subject: [PDF] CD Locking > >< ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > >Hi All, > >I know this has been covered before but I can't find anything on it... > >I want to master a CD with some MPEG files and about a thousand pdf's. >Is there a quick and easy way to stop a SCSI copy and to restrict access >to the disc ? > >I don't mind a commercial solution. > >TIA > > >Dean Laffan >Real World > > >__________________________________________________________________ > >PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" > >@ PDF Showcase: >__________________________________________________________________ > __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 28-Nov-1998 5:13:47-GMT,2092;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA12442 for ; Fri, 27 Nov 1998 22:13:46 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA28909; Fri, 27 Nov 1998 23:10:32 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 27 Nov 1998 23:08:45 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA28736; Fri, 27 Nov 1998 23:08:43 -0600 Message-ID: <001401be1a8c$f11ff6a0$340d9fcf@default> From: "Jim and Marguerite Ripley" To: Subject: [PDF] Frame to PDF Hyperlinks Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 21:06:27 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2120.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2120.0 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Developing a TOC in FrameMaker 5.1 for a number of image only PDF files. Is there a way to produce a hyperlink which will open to a specific page in the image only files. I have tried: gotopage filename:pagenumber and openpage filename:pagenumber After printing to postscript and distilling the file, this opens the correct imgae only PDF file but always to the first page. __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 28-Nov-1998 15:10:34-GMT,5643;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA22640 for ; Sat, 28 Nov 1998 08:10:33 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA24908; Sat, 28 Nov 1998 09:07:02 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 28 Nov 1998 09:01:35 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA24547; Sat, 28 Nov 1998 09:01:33 -0600 Message-ID: <001b01be1ae0$2a327960$a2c0a2c3@phil.customer.tvd.be> From: "Philippe Dachsbeck" To: Subject: [PDF] Substituting Truetype with Type1 using ATM & Adobe_PS on NT Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 16:02:45 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0018_01BE1AE8.8946B580" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0018_01BE1AE8.8946B580 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have continued my research/testing on TrueType behavour & alternative = on NT. Please find some outputs: On NT, the Adobe_PS V5.01 is totally unable to handle correctly TT with special encoding under the Type 42 & outline (missing characters, ...); = only bitmap substitution works. (except that search is not possible in the = final PDF). I do not understand why this driver has been released if Type42 is practically unusable. One solution should be to substitute, at printing time, our TT fonts = with a Type1 clone (produced with FontLab V3.0F) using ATM de Luxe V4. Alas, = this does not work with NT V4 SP3 with any PS driver (V4 or V5) using = distill.PPD V1.0 or V1.1: in the substituion table, we have never seem a Type1 font outside the 13 base fonts (which matches indeed the font list of distiller.ppd). Why are we not able to see in that list also the type 1 fonts made available through ATM. Strangely on WIN95 with ATM, you can substitute with any Type 1 fonts available on your target printer or from ATM V3.02. Is it a bug on NT = or a non functionality ? A brief contact with Adobe support in Europe seems to indicate that it = may work under NT: (strangely, the Adobe_PS is not supported by Adobe = support line) ... Has anybody already setup a NT system with ATM & with PS = driver & has been able to able to substitute with any Type 1 fonts available on = its workstation ? Is it may be working only on plain US NT system ? Thanks for sharing your knowledge. Philippe Dachsbeck ------=_NextPart_000_0018_01BE1AE8.8946B580 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I have continued my research/testing on TrueType behavour & = alternative=20 on
NT. Please find some outputs:

On NT, the Adobe_PS V5.01 is = totally=20 unable to handle correctly TT with
special encoding under the Type 42 = &=20 outline (missing characters, ...); only
bitmap substitution works. = (except=20 that search is not possible in the final
PDF). I do not understand = why this=20 driver has been released if Type42 is
practically = unusable.

One=20 solution should be to substitute, at printing time, our TT fonts with = a
Type1=20 clone (produced with FontLab V3.0F) using ATM de Luxe V4. Alas, = this
does not=20 work with NT V4 SP3 with any PS driver (V4 or V5) using = distill.PPD
V1.0 or=20 V1.1: in the substituion table, we have never  seem a Type1 = font
outside=20 the  13 base fonts (which matches indeed the font list=20 of
distiller.ppd).  Why are we not able to see in that list also = the=20 type 1
fonts made available through ATM.

Strangely on WIN95 = with ATM,=20 you can substitute with any Type 1 fonts
available on your  = target=20 printer or from ATM V3.02. Is it a bug on NT or a
non functionality=20 ?

A brief contact with Adobe support in Europe seems to indicate = that it=20 may
work under NT: (strangely, the Adobe_PS is not supported by Adobe = support
line) ... Has anybody already setup a NT system with = ATM  &=20 with PS driver &
has been able to able to substitute with any = Type 1=20 fonts available on its
workstation ? Is it may be working only on = plain US NT=20 system ?

Thanks for sharing your knowledge.

Philippe=20 Dachsbeck
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We planned on using fdf to submit the info but are having no luck. I tried adobe's documentation but its not helping, anyone know of some other sources? __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 30-Nov-1998 13:47:00-GMT,2141;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA11756 for ; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 06:46:59 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA27602; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 07:43:42 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 30 Nov 1998 07:41:10 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA27355; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 07:41:08 -0600 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] problem submitting forms using fdf Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 13:16:17 -0000 Message-ID: <000101be1c66$75750dc0$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <968ABE055736D211866D0000F81E3CCF1F6C23@exchange.iscg.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > We are trying to setup a 31 page pdf document that allows > users to input > data and then submit the data to our web server. We planned > on using fdf to > submit the info but are having no luck. What sort of luck were you expecting, and how does the luck you are getting differ from your expectations? Aandi __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 30-Nov-1998 14:20:16-GMT,2825;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA12464 for ; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 07:20:01 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA30131; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 08:16:03 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 30 Nov 1998 08:12:48 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA29840; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 08:12:47 -0600 Message-ID: <968ABE055736D211866D0000F81E3CCF1F6C28@exchange.iscg.com> From: "Lee, William" To: "'quite@dial.pipex.com'" Cc: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] problem submitting forms using fdf Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 09:13:26 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > your a funny guy Aandi. Actually we hae attempted to accessfdf files from the web server. The page seems to download, but when Acrobat Exchange is spawned the window is blank. > ---------- > From: Aandi Inston[SMTP:quite@dial.pipex.com] > Reply To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Sent: Monday, November 30, 1998 8:16 AM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: RE: [PDF] problem submitting forms using fdf > > > < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > > > > We are trying to setup a 31 page pdf document that allows > > users to input > > data and then submit the data to our web server. We planned > > on using fdf to > > submit the info but are having no luck. > > What sort of luck were you expecting, and how does the luck > you are getting differ from your expectations? > > Aandi > > __________________________________________________________________ > > PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" > > @ PDF Showcase: > __________________________________________________________________ > __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 30-Nov-1998 15:28:04-GMT,1877;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA14023 for ; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 08:28:03 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA03147; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 09:21:32 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 30 Nov 1998 09:14:48 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA02519; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 09:14:46 -0600 Message-ID: <968ABE055736D211866D0000F81E3CCF1F6C2D@exchange.iscg.com> From: "Lee, William" To: "'pdf'" Subject: [PDF] link to a bookmark... Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 10:16:14 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > I want to add buttons on a pdf (using Exchange 3.0 for Windows) that will jump to a designated bookmark in the pdf. I know there is porbably a very simple solution to this, but I a currently drawing a blank. I would guess that javascript would be an option but I was hoping it wasn't the only one. TIA __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 30-Nov-1998 15:47:57-GMT,2563;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA14467 for ; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 08:47:24 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA06930; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 09:44:24 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 30 Nov 1998 09:43:13 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA06819; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 09:43:10 -0600 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] link to a bookmark... Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 15:32:09 -0000 Message-ID: <000501be1c77$7dfa6380$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <968ABE055736D211866D0000F81E3CCF1F6C2D@exchange.iscg.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > You can't actually jump to a bookmark - there's no way to refer to a bookmark from a button. But you can jump to a specific page. Perhaps the easiest way is actually to have a dead (picture of) a button around which you draw an invisible link. Otherwise, you can create the form button on the WRONG page i.e. the target page, then use Fields > Duplicate to copy it to the RIGHT page, then finally remove the original. Aandi > I want to add buttons on a pdf (using Exchange 3.0 for > Windows) that will > jump to a designated bookmark in the pdf. > > I know there is porbably a very simple solution to this, but > I a currently > drawing a blank. I would guess that javascript would be an > option but I was > hoping it wasn't the only one. > __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 30-Nov-1998 16:45:57-GMT,1841;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA15938 for ; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 09:44:49 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA12292; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 10:39:56 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 30 Nov 1998 10:38:06 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA12071; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 10:38:00 -0600 From: Joesbbq@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 11:37:37 EST To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: [PDF] "Save" Filled in Form Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Is there a way for a User to "Save" a completed form (with the data) that has been filled-in ? The Form was created with the Adobe Form Fill Plug in. Thanks ! Joseph Mizrahi Director of Information Technology New York City Department of Finance Mizrahij@DOFLAN.nycnet.ci.nyc.ny.us __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 30-Nov-1998 16:50:46-GMT,1712;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA16118 for ; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 09:50:45 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA13095; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 10:49:22 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 30 Nov 1998 10:48:13 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA12973; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 10:48:10 -0600 From: bmcdanel@sensormatic-vpd.com (MCDANEL, BRUCE) To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com (pdf) Message-ID: <1998Nov30.083717.1689.307661@apollo.sensormatic-vpd.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail via PostalUnion/SMTP for Windows NT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Organization: Sensormatic Video Products Division, San Diego, CA, 92121 USA Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 08:41:26 -0800 Subject: [PDF] Read: pdf-digest for November-26-98 [V2 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 30-Nov-1998 18:00:22-GMT,2380;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA17944 for ; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 11:00:17 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA20013; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 11:54:47 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 30 Nov 1998 11:52:47 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA19798; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 11:52:45 -0600 X-Sender: prodok@pop.eunet.ch Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 18:53:00 +0100 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Max Wyss Subject: Re: [PDF] "Save" Filled in Form Cc: Joesbbq@aol.com Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Joseph, Your user can save a completed form _if your user uses Exchange_. If your user uses Reader, it can not be done. A workaround for Reader users would be if you set up a webserver where a CGI script would take care of the storage, and your user would submit the form to that script. Hope, this can help. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering AG Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch WWW: http://www.prodok.ch/prodok Bridging the Knowledge Gap ______________________ >Is there a way for a User to "Save" a completed form (with the data) that has >been filled-in ? The Form was created with the Adobe Form Fill Plug in. > >Thanks ! > >Joseph Mizrahi __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 30-Nov-1998 18:15:27-GMT,1957;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA18341 for ; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 11:15:21 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA21656; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 12:13:09 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 30 Nov 1998 12:11:52 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA21513; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 12:11:51 -0600 Message-ID: <968ABE055736D211866D0000F81E3CCF1F6C35@exchange.iscg.com> From: "Lee, William" To: "'pdf'" Subject: RE: [PDF] problem submitting forms using fdf Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 13:12:54 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > We solved the problem. Thanks for the assistance. > ---------- > > > >We are trying to setup a 31 page pdf document that allows users to input > >data and then submit the data to our web server. We planned on using fdf > to > >submit the info but are having no luck. I tried adobe's documentation but > >its not helping, anyone know of some other sources? > > > > __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 30-Nov-1998 19:13:25-GMT,2706;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA19827 for ; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 12:13:24 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA26879; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 13:09:30 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 30 Nov 1998 13:07:32 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA26606; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 13:07:29 -0600 Message-Id: <199811301907.OAA28226@uakron.edu> From: "D.P.Story" Organization: The University of Akron To: "Lee, William" , pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 14:07:20 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: RE: [PDF] problem submitting forms using fdf In-reply-to: <968ABE055736D211866D0000F81E3CCF1F6C35@exchange.iscg.com> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01b) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > What precisely was the problem, and what was was the solution, so that your pdf colleagues identify and solve same. On 30 Nov 98, at 13:12, Lee, William wrote: > We solved the problem. Thanks for the assistance. > > > ---------- > > > > > >We are trying to setup a 31 page pdf document that allows users to > > >input data and then submit the data to our web server. We planned on > > >using fdf > > to > > >submit the info but are having no luck. I tried adobe's documentation > > >but its not helping, anyone know of some other sources? > > Dr. D. P. Story dpstory@uakron.edu http://www.math.uakron.edu/~dpstory/ Dept of Mathematics and Computer Science / University of Akron / Akron, Ohio 44325 AcroTeX Site Overview:http://www.math.uakron.edu/~dpstory/acrotex.html Site Highlights: e-Calculus; Algebra Review in Ten Lessons; Mathematical Games; Pdfmarks:Links and Forms; Using LaTeX to Create Quality PDF Documents for the WWW and much, much more. __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 30-Nov-1998 19:19:00-GMT,3649;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA19958 for ; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 12:18:50 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA27627; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 13:17:03 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 30 Nov 1998 13:15:57 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA27508; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 13:15:56 -0600 Message-ID: <968ABE055736D211866D0000F81E3CCF1F6C3B@exchange.iscg.com> From: "Lee, William" To: "'pdf'" Subject: RE: [PDF] problem submitting forms using fdf Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 14:17:01 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > we created a form that our co-workers can access and fill-out over the > web, and then send it back to the office. We were having a problem > downloading the fdf files. we repeatedly got errors that said that the pdf > template could not be found. > > So eventually I checked the fdf file in a text editor, and found the call > to the template > > /F "../dir/dir/filename.fdf" > > The fdf was created locally on the server and when it was exported it > added the incorrect locatin of the file. In order to access that same fdf > over the web the pointer had to include the http address: > > /F "http://webserver/dir/dir/filename.fdf" > > with that problem solved we are now attempting to setup the script that > will read the data that is submitted by the user, and save it to the > server. > > ---------- > From: D.P.Story[SMTP:story@uakron.edu] > Reply To: story@uakron.edu > Sent: Monday, November 30, 1998 2:07 PM > To: Lee, William; pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: RE: [PDF] problem submitting forms using fdf > > > What precisely was the problem, and what was was the solution, so that > your pdf colleagues identify and solve same. > > On 30 Nov 98, at 13:12, Lee, William wrote: > > > We solved the problem. Thanks for the assistance. > > > > > ---------- > > > > > > > >We are trying to setup a 31 page pdf document that allows users to > > > >input data and then submit the data to our web server. We planned on > > > >using fdf > > > to > > > >submit the info but are having no luck. I tried adobe's documentation > > > >but its not helping, anyone know of some other sources? > > > > > > > Dr. D. P. Story dpstory@uakron.edu > http://www.math.uakron.edu/~dpstory/ Dept of Mathematics > and Computer Science / University of Akron / Akron, Ohio 44325 > AcroTeX Site Overview:http://www.math.uakron.edu/~dpstory/acrotex.html > Site Highlights: e-Calculus; Algebra Review in Ten Lessons; Mathematical > Games; > Pdfmarks:Links and Forms; Using LaTeX to Create Quality PDF Documents for > the WWW > and much, much more. > > __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 1-Dec-1998 3:11:30-GMT,2076;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA01512 for ; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 20:11:29 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA03818; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 21:07:13 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 30 Nov 1998 21:03:20 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA03506; Mon, 30 Nov 1998 21:03:18 -0600 From: Karen_L_Mibus@keybank.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: KEYCORP To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <852566CC.005D5E6B.00@keybank.com> Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 12:07:01 -0500 Subject: [PDF] "Save" Filled in Form Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > --------------- Joseph asked: Is there a way for a User to "Save" a completed form (with the data) that has been filled-in ? The Form was created with the Adobe Form Fill Plug in. Thanks ! Joseph Mizrahi Director of Information Technology New York City Department of Finance Mizrahij@DOFLAN.nycnet.ci.nyc.ny.us The form was actually created with the Form Author plug-in for Exchange. The Fill-in plugin is for the Reader. You cannot save a completed form in the Reader, but you can save it in Exchange. --Karen __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________