1-Dec-1998 17:13:05-GMT,2542;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA18436 for ; Tue, 1 Dec 1998 10:13:04 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA20416; Tue, 1 Dec 1998 11:07:58 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 1 Dec 1998 10:59:45 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA19724; Tue, 1 Dec 1998 10:59:41 -0600 Message-ID: <002a01be1d4b$c1a94040$370d9fcf@default> From: "Jim and Marguerite Ripley" To: Subject: [PDF] PRINTING ERROR Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 08:57:21 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2120.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2120.0 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > The following printing problem is obviously not mission critical but a curiosity. Using Win 95, printing to HP LaserJet 5L, the PCL fix was previously installed successfully. In the Exchange > Help folder there is a file Pdfmark.pdf. The file is 54 pages and pages 2-54 print without incident. Attempts to print page 1 always produce the following error: ACROEX32 caused a divide error in module ACROEX32.EXE at 0137:0059a8d5. Registers: EAX=fffffe64 CS=0137 EIP=0059a8d5 EFLGS=00010282 EBX=00001842 SS=013f ESP=007ed9c4 EBP=bff310ed ECX=00000000 DS=013f ESI=0000007c FS=1167 EDX=ffffffff ES=013f EDI=fffffe65 GS=0000 Bytes at CS:EIP: f7 f9 0f bf c0 48 83 f8 02 7f 05 b8 02 00 00 00 Stack dump: 000000ec 04d40034 04d40020 00a39114 011f7c86 17293def 0000181e 00000000 00e20746 0101007c 000005ae 00000000 00ffffff 000005aa 000003e0 00000000 __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 1-Dec-1998 19:01:26-GMT,2324;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA20994 for ; Tue, 1 Dec 1998 11:51:25 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA28609; Tue, 1 Dec 1998 12:32:40 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 1 Dec 1998 12:31:28 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA28491; Tue, 1 Dec 1998 12:31:26 -0600 X-ROUTED: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 14:31:50 -0500 Message-ID: <36643684.6E5BD605@eisolutions.com> Date: Tue, 01 Dec 1998 13:33:40 -0500 From: Michael Stearne X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "pdf@lists.pdfzone.com" Subject: [PDF] PDF as a Native filetype in Browsers Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Hi, Has there been any talk either here or at Mozilla.org about embedding a PDF reader into a browser, treating PDF as a native file type like .gif or .jpg? Basically including a PDF parser into the binary of the browser so when a .pdf file is encountered, the browser will call it's internal reader to handle the file instead of calling a plug in. This method would save users a download(the reader) and would make encountering PDFs more seemless to them. I would also think that it would give PDF continuing support even if XML and other browser rendering of style methods reach the quality of PDF. Thanks, Michael Stearne __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 1-Dec-1998 19:20:33-GMT,2763;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA21832 for ; Tue, 1 Dec 1998 12:20:27 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA32671; Tue, 1 Dec 1998 13:16:27 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 1 Dec 1998 13:14:55 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA32426; Tue, 1 Dec 1998 13:14:53 -0600 From: Karen_L_Mibus@keybank.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: KEYCORP To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <852566CD.006986C8.00@keybank.com> Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 14:14:17 -0500 Subject: [PDF] PDF as a Native filetype in Browsers Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Michael: I've suggested this to Adobe. Our clients are insisting on this feature, especially for legal documents. I believe others have mentioned this concept, too. I agree that Adobe should consider competition from XML. --Karen Hi, Has there been any talk either here or at Mozilla.org about embedding a PDF reader into a browser, treating PDF as a native file type like .gif or .jpg? Basically including a PDF parser into the binary of the browser so when a .pdf file is encountered, the browser will call it's internal reader to handle the file instead of calling a plug in. This method would save users a download(the reader) and would make encountering PDFs more seemless to them. I would also think that it would give PDF continuing support even if XML and other browser rendering of style methods reach the quality of PDF. Thanks, Michael Stearne __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 1-Dec-1998 19:21:49-GMT,2535;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA21878 for ; Tue, 1 Dec 1998 12:21:40 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA00407; Tue, 1 Dec 1998 13:19:51 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 1 Dec 1998 13:18:44 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA00179; Tue, 1 Dec 1998 13:18:42 -0600 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Disabling THe Browser Plug-In Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 19:04:48 -0000 Message-ID: <000101be1d5f$63dbcb40$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 In-Reply-To: <366434A5.AAFE20C7@eisolutions.com> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > Is there anyway to have a link to a PDF and tell the browser to prompt > the user to save the file, instead of opening it in the browser. Even > if the Reader is installed I want them to have the option of > saving the > file without right clicking and Save As... No (except by lying about the file type or other trickery like zipping it). As a web site designer, your sole choice is to place a link to a file. The file type is checked by the web server, and reported to the web browser. Then the browser does whatever it wants - often display in screen, but not all browsers do, and some users do not set up that way. The best you can do is give specific instructions on how to save the file (remember the Mac instructions too). Aandi __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 1-Dec-1998 19:22:00-GMT,3050;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA21870 for ; Tue, 1 Dec 1998 12:21:27 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA00408; Tue, 1 Dec 1998 13:19:53 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 1 Dec 1998 13:18:46 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA00202; Tue, 1 Dec 1998 13:18:45 -0600 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] PDF as a Native filetype in Browsers Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 19:08:07 -0000 Message-ID: <000201be1d5f$65903200$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 In-Reply-To: <36643684.6E5BD605@eisolutions.com> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > Has there been any talk either here or at Mozilla.org about > embedding a > PDF reader into a browser, treating PDF as a native file type > like .gif > or .jpg? > Basically including a PDF parser into the binary of the > browser so when > a .pdf file is encountered, the browser will call it's internal reader > to handle the file instead of calling a plug in. > This method would save users a download(the reader) and would make > encountering PDFs more seemless to them. I would also think that it > would give PDF continuing support even if XML and other browser > rendering of style methods reach the quality of PDF. I'd like to see this too, but the difficulties include: 1. It would increase the size of the Netscape download by another four megabytes. 2. It is unlikely Adobe would play the open source game. It is also unlikely that anyone would produce a serious competitor to Acrobat Reader for use in this context because (a) PDF is MUCH more complicated than many people realise (b) it would be forced constantly to play "catch up" with Adobe's new features (c) it's hard to compete with a free product Users would not want to hear that their Netscape's PDF rendering could not do XXX, you need Acrobat Reader for that... Aandi __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 1-Dec-1998 19:26:44-GMT,1977;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA21991 for ; Tue, 1 Dec 1998 12:26:43 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA28237; Tue, 1 Dec 1998 12:28:44 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 1 Dec 1998 12:23:35 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA27766; Tue, 1 Dec 1998 12:23:33 -0600 X-ROUTED: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 14:23:56 -0500 Message-ID: <366434A5.AAFE20C7@eisolutions.com> Date: Tue, 01 Dec 1998 13:25:41 -0500 From: Michael Stearne X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "pdf@lists.pdfzone.com" Subject: [PDF] Disabling THe Browser Plug-In Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Hi, Is there anyway to have a link to a PDF and tell the browser to prompt the user to save the file, instead of opening it in the browser. Even if the Reader is installed I want them to have the option of saving the file without right clicking and Save As... Thanks, Michael Stearne __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 1-Dec-1998 20:01:18-GMT,3999;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA22809 for ; Tue, 1 Dec 1998 12:58:57 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA03788; Tue, 1 Dec 1998 13:53:44 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 1 Dec 1998 13:50:44 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA03552; Tue, 1 Dec 1998 13:50:43 -0600 From: "Chris Bill" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] PDF as a Native filetype in Browsers Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 19:47:07 -0000 Message-ID: <000001be1d63$60ed8820$66affea9@main> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-Reply-To: <000201be1d5f$65903200$0101c6c0@gateway> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Aandi, If you do a search on 'web' inside Acrobat help, you will see references to embedding a PDF document in to html. Is this not what has been requested here. Chris Bill Portland Solutions http://www.chris.bill.mcmail.com > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com [mailto:owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com]On > Behalf Of Aandi Inston > Sent: 01 December 1998 19:08 > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: RE: [PDF] PDF as a Native filetype in Browsers > > > > < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > > > > Has there been any talk either here or at Mozilla.org about > > embedding a > > PDF reader into a browser, treating PDF as a native file type > > like .gif > > or .jpg? > > Basically including a PDF parser into the binary of the > > browser so when > > a .pdf file is encountered, the browser will call it's internal reader > > to handle the file instead of calling a plug in. > > This method would save users a download(the reader) and would make > > encountering PDFs more seemless to them. I would also think that it > > would give PDF continuing support even if XML and other browser > > rendering of style methods reach the quality of PDF. > > I'd like to see this too, but the difficulties include: > 1. It would increase the size of the Netscape download by another > four megabytes. > 2. It is unlikely Adobe would play the open source game. > > It is also unlikely that anyone would produce a serious competitor to > Acrobat Reader for use in this context because > (a) PDF is MUCH more complicated than many people realise > (b) it would be forced constantly to play "catch up" with Adobe's new > features > (c) it's hard to compete with a free product > > Users would not want to hear that their Netscape's PDF rendering could not > do XXX, you need Acrobat Reader for that... > > Aandi > > __________________________________________________________________ > > PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" > > @ PDF Showcase: > __________________________________________________________________ > __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 1-Dec-1998 20:15:59-GMT,2015;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA23445 for ; Tue, 1 Dec 1998 13:15:45 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA05736; Tue, 1 Dec 1998 14:14:41 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 1 Dec 1998 14:13:22 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA05588; Tue, 1 Dec 1998 14:13:21 -0600 From: Karen_L_Mibus@keybank.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: KEYCORP To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <852566CD.006C372F.00@keybank.com> Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 15:12:47 -0500 Subject: [PDF] Acrobat In Browser Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > My e-mail addressed the concept of viewing Acrobat files within the browser without the need to download and install the Reader. It is possible for Adobe to design the Reader so that it can be stored on the Web server and launched when a link to a PDF file is activated. This would avoid the need to download and install, as well as be concerned about what version of the Reader a user may have. Again, my clients are requesting this functionality, especially for legal forms. --Karen __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 1-Dec-1998 20:51:11-GMT,2285;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA24348 for ; Tue, 1 Dec 1998 13:51:09 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA09112; Tue, 1 Dec 1998 14:47:20 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 1 Dec 1998 14:44:30 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA08721; Tue, 1 Dec 1998 14:44:28 -0600 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] PDF as a Native filetype in Browsers Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 20:42:26 -0000 Message-ID: <000401be1d6b$5f865d60$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 In-Reply-To: <000001be1d63$60ed8820$66affea9@main> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > Aandi, > If you do a search on 'web' inside Acrobat help, you will see > references to > embedding a PDF document in to html. Is this not what has > been requested > here. No, that just embeds a reference to a PDF file so it appears in the middle of an HTML file as if it were a graphic. Something of a gimmick. What is requested is the excellent, but difficult, idea that Netscape INCLUDES the ability to read PDF files, without the need for a separate Acrobat Reader. Aandi __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 1-Dec-1998 20:51:26-GMT,2578;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA24352 for ; Tue, 1 Dec 1998 13:51:25 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA09111; Tue, 1 Dec 1998 14:47:18 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 1 Dec 1998 14:44:32 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA08743; Tue, 1 Dec 1998 14:44:30 -0600 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Acrobat In Browser Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 20:44:14 -0000 Message-ID: <000501be1d6b$609a8c80$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 In-Reply-To: <852566CD.006C372F.00@keybank.com> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > My e-mail addressed the concept of viewing Acrobat files > within the browser > without the need to download and install the Reader. It is > possible for > Adobe to design the Reader so that it can be stored on the > Web server and > launched when a link to a PDF file is activated. This would > avoid the need > to download and install, as well as be concerned about what > version of the > Reader a user may have. Again, my clients are requesting this > functionality, especially for legal forms. Did you mean to start your second sentence "Is it..." rather than "It is..."? If not, what do you mean, technically - automating the download and installation of a 4+ megabyte piece of software without the user's knowledge? Hardly sounds practical or friendly on today's internet. Aandi __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 1-Dec-1998 21:10:03-GMT,2481;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA24859 for ; Tue, 1 Dec 1998 14:09:57 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA11297; Tue, 1 Dec 1998 15:08:23 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 1 Dec 1998 15:04:21 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA10908; Tue, 1 Dec 1998 15:04:19 -0600 Subject: RE: [PDF] Disabling THe Browser Plug-In Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 14:04:57 -0700 x-sender: dennisw@mail.inpractice.net x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: Dennis Walker To: "PDF Mail List" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-ID: <1299601396-99597604@mail.inpractice.net> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Aandi Inston (quite@dial.pipex.com) wrote on 12/1/98 12:04 PM: >The best you can do is give specific instructions on how to save the >file (remember the Mac instructions too). FWIW, I include the following near all PDF links on my site. But many ding-dongs still can't figure it out.

Remember to right-click on the PDF icon (or click and hold with a one button mouse). Then select "Save Target As" (or "Save Link As"); then you will be presented with a "Save As" dialog box asking you where on your hard disk you would like to save the file. In order to view and print the file, launch Acrobat Reader and use the File/Open command to find and open the PDF file.

Dennis Walker dennisw@inpractice.net EVP/Production Mgr. 435-647-9910 InPractice Publications, Inc. 435-647-5927 fax __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 1-Dec-1998 21:42:51-GMT,2650;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA25481 for ; Tue, 1 Dec 1998 14:37:15 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA12404; Tue, 1 Dec 1998 15:19:09 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 1 Dec 1998 15:16:35 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA12121; Tue, 1 Dec 1998 15:16:34 -0600 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Disabling THe Browser Plug-In Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 21:16:20 -0000 Message-ID: <000601be1d6f$daddd8e0$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 In-Reply-To: <1299601396-99597604@mail.inpractice.net> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > FWIW, I include the following near all PDF links on my site. But many > ding-dongs still can't figure it out. > >

Remember to right-click on the PDF icon (or click > and hold with > a one button mouse).... Many novice Windows users have not grasped the concept of "directories" and cannot figure out where downloaded files go. So encouraging downloading just opens up more and more wriggling cans of worms. One can only go so far in trying to train the very ignorant. I'm all for helping beginners, but there is a basic level below which people should be referred to education. It seems many windows users, even those who claim some expertise, NEVER grasp that if you ain't right clickin', you ain't getting it... and even Uncle Bill adding extra keys to everyone's keyboard has not got over the message about context menus. Aandi __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 1-Dec-1998 23:02:10-GMT,3017;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA27912 for ; Tue, 1 Dec 1998 16:02:09 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA21148; Tue, 1 Dec 1998 16:58:37 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 1 Dec 1998 16:55:53 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA20839; Tue, 1 Dec 1998 16:55:52 -0600 X-ROUTED: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 18:56:16 -0500 Message-ID: <36647485.612437D7@eisolutions.com> Date: Tue, 01 Dec 1998 17:58:13 -0500 From: Michael Stearne X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF as a Native filetype in Browsers References: <000201be1d5f$65903200$0101c6c0@gateway> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Aandi Inston wrote: > I'd like to see this too, but the difficulties include: > 1. It would increase the size of the Netscape download by another > four megabytes. > True, but at least it's all in one place. > 2. It is unlikely Adobe would play the open source game. > I guess not. I don't understand if products are free, why not give away the source, i.e. IE and the Acrobat Reader.. I would more like to see Adobe work with Netscape and co-develop, after the AOL deal, there could be an advantage for Adobe. But I'm sure the "Adobe Acrobat Reader" references all over the Web does help associate PDF with Adobe and if it is hidden (in the browser), it would bring less attention to Adobe (who I'm not blaming). > > It is also unlikely that anyone would produce a serious competitor to > Acrobat Reader for use in this context because > I agree that competiting with Adobe on a Reader would be a mistake since they are developing most PDF technology. > (a) PDF is MUCH more complicated than many people realise > (b) it would be forced constantly to play "catch up" with Adobe's new > features > (c) it's hard to compete with a free product > > Users would not want to hear that their Netscape's PDF rendering could not > do XXX, you need Acrobat Reader for that... > > Aandi > __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 1-Dec-1998 23:02:49-GMT,2208;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA27930 for ; Tue, 1 Dec 1998 16:02:34 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA20327; Tue, 1 Dec 1998 16:51:00 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 1 Dec 1998 16:44:56 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA19586; Tue, 1 Dec 1998 16:44:53 -0600 X-ROUTED: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 18:45:18 -0500 Message-ID: <366471D5.8FA34448@eisolutions.com> Date: Tue, 01 Dec 1998 17:46:46 -0500 From: Michael Stearne X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Disabling THe Browser Plug-In References: <000101be1d5f$63dbcb40$0101c6c0@gateway> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Aandi Inston wrote: > > The best you can do is give specific instructions on how to save the > file (remember the Mac instructions too). > I have the Mac instructions too (hold the button down and choose save as.., etc.), I just said right mouse click as an example. I know what you mean about people not understanding file systems and saving things in certain places, but this is for people in business and I'm sure they have a solid grasp on computers ;). Thanks, Michael Stearne __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 1-Dec-1998 23:16:21-GMT,2957;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA28400 for ; Tue, 1 Dec 1998 16:16:20 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA22449; Tue, 1 Dec 1998 17:10:04 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 1 Dec 1998 17:07:28 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA22194; Tue, 1 Dec 1998 17:07:26 -0600 X-ROUTED: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 19:07:52 -0500 Message-ID: <36647705.25E5F19F@eisolutions.com> Date: Tue, 01 Dec 1998 18:08:53 -0500 From: Michael Stearne X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Acrobat In Browser References: <852566CD.006C372F.00@keybank.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Karen_L_Mibus@keybank.com wrote: > < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > > My e-mail addressed the concept of viewing Acrobat files within the browser > without the need to download and install the Reader. It is possible for > Adobe to design the Reader so that it can be stored on the Web server and > launched when a link to a PDF file is activated. This would avoid the need This is something that could be done in Java with some custom libraries, but the issue still remains that it takes a big program (the reader) to decode PDF files and whether the user gets the reader from the Web server (via Java) or from a download, they are still going to have to get that 4 MB reader. I think clients would complain even more if they have to download a 4MB Java applet to view each 40K PDF. This was my original question, to include the Reader with the browser so to "hide" the extra reader download from the user. This is similar to the stance Emblaze is taking with streaming audio. Emblaze sends you a player applet that is "installed"(really run) on your computer and then they send the special audio. Think of a Reader applet send and then the special text (PDF) sent afterwards. Thanks, Michael Stearne __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 1-Dec-1998 23:48:33-GMT,2669;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA29222 for ; Tue, 1 Dec 1998 16:48:24 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA25075; Tue, 1 Dec 1998 17:43:27 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 1 Dec 1998 17:40:43 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA24833; Tue, 1 Dec 1998 17:40:41 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19981201185139.008fc620@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 01 Dec 1998 18:51:39 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] Acrobat In Browser In-Reply-To: <852566CD.006C372F.00@keybank.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > >My e-mail addressed the concept of viewing Acrobat files within the browser >without the need to download and install the Reader. It is possible for >Adobe to design the Reader so that it can be stored on the Web server and >launched when a link to a PDF file is activated. This would avoid the need >to download and install, as well as be concerned about what version of the >Reader a user may have. Again, my clients are requesting this >functionality, especially for legal forms. > I don't quite understand how you see this as working. Assuming a copy of Reader on a server somewhere and a PDF to feed it, what's it going to hand back to a browser? HTML? With all the design sacrifices that entails, I don't see much value in that. Leave the docs in HTML in the first place? I doubt that would make the legal forms folks happy. Or am I totally misunderstanding what you had in mind? It's an interesting notion, and I'm curious to know more. Steve Rindsberg/Prez RDP http://www.rdpslides.com __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 1-Dec-1998 23:52:48-GMT,2686;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA29383 for ; Tue, 1 Dec 1998 16:52:42 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA25740; Tue, 1 Dec 1998 17:50:47 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 1 Dec 1998 17:48:05 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA25401; Tue, 1 Dec 1998 17:48:01 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: TSO.akkornel@tso.tso.org Message-Id: Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 18:43:10 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Alfred Karl Kornel Subject: [PDF] Problem Building Indexes with Adobe Catalog Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Dear PDF users, I've been having a problem building indexes with Adobe Acrobat Catalog. Whenever I try to build an index, I get this in the log: Starting build. Connecting to index. Search Engine Message: (0) Error (): Error initializing message database Search Engine Message: (0) Error (): Warning initializing Failed to attach to index. Index Build Failed. MACINTOSH HD:DESKTOP FOLDER:test1-1_index.pdx - Index Build Failed. I've tried changing the file name and re-installing the software, but nothing works. I'm using version 3.0.0 of Adobe Acrobat Catalog for the Macintosh. =============================================================== | Alfred Karl Kornel akkornel@tso.tso.org | | PGP Keys: http://www.bcdinternational.com/Webmaster/keys/ | | Webmaster for: | | BCD Group, Inc. http://www.bcdinternational.com/ | | Realmz Mirror Site http://www.bcdinternational.com/Realmz/ | | Simplistic Software http://www.bcdinternational.com/Simple/ | =============================================================== __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 2-Dec-1998 4:30:51-GMT,3444;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA05084 for ; Tue, 1 Dec 1998 21:30:49 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA12137; Tue, 1 Dec 1998 22:27:06 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 1 Dec 1998 22:23:57 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA11862; Tue, 1 Dec 1998 22:23:56 -0600 X-Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated X-Division: Core Technology X-Department: Product Interoperability Analysis X-URL: X-Location: Remote (ISAACS_REMOTE) Message-Id: <4.1.19981201201733.00a5c6c0@mail-303> X-Sender: isaacs@mail-303 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Tue, 01 Dec 1998 20:23:35 -0800 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com, "Aandi Inston" From: Dov Isaacs Subject: RE: [PDF] PDF as a Native filetype in Browsers In-Reply-To: <000401be1d6b$5f865d60$0101c6c0@gateway> References: <000001be1d63$60ed8820$66affea9@main> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > At 12/1/98 12:42 PM , Aandi Inston wrote: > >< ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > > >> Aandi, >> If you do a search on 'web' inside Acrobat help, you will see >> references to >> embedding a PDF document in to html. Is this not what has >> been requested >> here. > >No, that just embeds a reference to a PDF file so it appears in >the middle of an HTML file as if it were a graphic. Something >of a gimmick. > >What is requested is the excellent, but difficult, idea that >Netscape INCLUDES the ability to read PDF files, without the need >for a separate Acrobat Reader. > >Aandi Actually, what is being asked for is a difference in PACKAGING. What differentiates "native" support for a particular format versus "add-on" support these days? It is certainly NOT whether or not another module is called into memory when a particular file format is encountered for the first time in its session! How do you think that this stuff is handled by the NetScape and Microsoft browsers? If a "headless" version of Acrobat Reader was bundled with the NetScape and/or Microsoft browsers (i.e., the modules loaded quietly without a splash screen when they fired up and were physically stored in the same directory as the browser's executables), you would have exactly the same effect as if you had what is being called "native" support. The real issue is whether NetScape or Microsoft would be interested in doing such bundling with their products. - Dov __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 2-Dec-1998 4:45:37-GMT,3266;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA05355 for ; Tue, 1 Dec 1998 21:45:36 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA13399; Tue, 1 Dec 1998 22:43:22 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 1 Dec 1998 22:40:48 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA13213; Tue, 1 Dec 1998 22:40:44 -0600 X-Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated X-Division: Core Technology X-Department: Product Interoperability Analysis X-URL: X-Location: Remote (ISAACS_REMOTE) Message-Id: <4.1.19981201203837.00a5e590@mail-303> X-Sender: isaacs@mail-303 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Tue, 01 Dec 1998 20:40:27 -0800 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com, Steve Rindsberg From: Dov Isaacs Subject: Re: [PDF] Acrobat In Browser In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19981201185139.008fc620@pop.iglou.com> References: <852566CD.006C372F.00@keybank.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > And you CERTAINLY would NOT want to wait for the web server to interpret the PDF and then download megabytes of bitmap images to display within a browser window! - Dov At 12/1/98 03:51 PM , Steve Rindsberg wrote: > >< ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > >> >>My e-mail addressed the concept of viewing Acrobat files within the browser >>without the need to download and install the Reader. It is possible for >>Adobe to design the Reader so that it can be stored on the Web server and >>launched when a link to a PDF file is activated. This would avoid the need >>to download and install, as well as be concerned about what version of the >>Reader a user may have. Again, my clients are requesting this >>functionality, especially for legal forms. >> > >I don't quite understand how you see this as working. Assuming a copy of >Reader on a server somewhere and a PDF to feed it, what's it going to hand >back to a browser? HTML? With all the design sacrifices that entails, I >don't see much value in that. Leave the docs in HTML in the first place? >I doubt that would make the legal forms folks happy. > >Or am I totally misunderstanding what you had in mind? It's an interesting >notion, and I'm curious to know more. > >Steve Rindsberg/Prez >RDP >http://www.rdpslides.com __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 2-Dec-1998 8:53:15-GMT,3940;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA10030 for ; Wed, 2 Dec 1998 01:53:14 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA27309; Wed, 2 Dec 1998 02:48:31 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 2 Dec 1998 02:46:30 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA27126; Wed, 2 Dec 1998 02:46:28 -0600 X-ROUTED: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 04:46:58 -0500 Message-ID: <3664FF04.4F6172E0@eisolutions.com> Date: Wed, 02 Dec 1998 03:49:08 -0500 From: Michael Stearne X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF as a Native filetype in Browsers References: <000001be1d63$60ed8820$66affea9@main> <4.1.19981201201733.00a5c6c0@mail-303> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Dov Isaacs wrote: > > >What is requested is the excellent, but difficult, idea that > >Netscape INCLUDES the ability to read PDF files, without the need > >for a separate Acrobat Reader. > > > >Aandi > > Actually, what is being asked for is a difference in PACKAGING. What > differentiates "native" support for a particular format versus "add-on" > support these days? It is certainly NOT whether or not another module > is called into memory when a particular file format is encountered for > the first time in its session! How do you think that this stuff is > handled by the NetScape and Microsoft browsers? > > If a "headless" version of Acrobat Reader was bundled with the NetScape > and/or Microsoft browsers (i.e., the modules loaded quietly without a > splash screen when they fired up and were physically stored in the same > directory as the browser's executables), you would have exactly the > same effect as if you had what is being called "native" support. The > real issue is whether NetScape or Microsoft would be interested in > doing such bundling with their products. > I think that Netscape and Microsoft would be interested in bundling these products in their browsers, it would be just another feature. I don't however think that Adobe would be too interested in a headless version. On each splash screen of their reader there is an advertisement for Acrobat. They would have to trade that for a logo in the about: page. I'm sure this "native"ness would be implemented in the form of a module loaded into memory when a PDF was first encountered similar to how the JVM is loaded with the first applet. But, if PDF was extremely popular(as popular as HTML or JPG) I was just saying that it would be nice to have a PDF parser built in to the browser, just as an HTML parser is built in. Michael Stearne > > - Dov > > __________________________________________________________________ > > PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" > > @ PDF Showcase: > __________________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 2-Dec-1998 13:53:13-GMT,1960;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA14980 for ; Wed, 2 Dec 1998 06:52:58 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA11313; Wed, 2 Dec 1998 07:44:23 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 2 Dec 1998 07:41:11 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA11033; Wed, 2 Dec 1998 07:41:10 -0600 Message-ID: <36654341.A2BD254C@ix.netcom.com> Date: Wed, 02 Dec 1998 05:40:18 -0800 From: Frank Blau X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf Subject: [PDF] What does "Out of Memory" mean? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > I know that sounds like a stupid question... but I have tried adding memory to the application (Exchange), the Desktop PrintSpooler (it's a Mac), and just about everything else and I STILL get this message when I try and print pdf documents that were created in Freehand!!!! AUUUGHHH!!! Can someone help? Frank __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 2-Dec-1998 14:08:21-GMT,2501;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA15284 for ; Wed, 2 Dec 1998 07:08:06 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA13316; Wed, 2 Dec 1998 08:06:58 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 2 Dec 1998 08:05:45 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA13228; Wed, 2 Dec 1998 08:05:43 -0600 From: Karen_L_Mibus@keybank.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: KEYCORP To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <852566CE.004C259C.00@keybank.com> Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 09:01:31 -0500 Subject: RE: [PDF] Acrobat In Browser Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Aandi wrote: Did you mean to start your second sentence "Is it..." rather than "It is..."? If not, what do you mean, technically - automating the download and installation of a 4+ megabyte piece of software without the user's knowledge? Hardly sounds practical or friendly on today's internet. No, I do not mean automating the download and installation. Instead I'm referring to the ability to store and launch the Reader plug-in from the Web server. When a user clicks the file link to a PDF file, the Reader is launched automatically from the server. Then, when the user completes viewing the PDF, the Reader plug-in closes. There is no download or installation, and the Reader appears within the Internet browser as it does now. In essence, this is a way to create a more seamless viewing of PDF. This approach would be very user friendly and practical. As I mentioned, my clients would like to see such a "self-extracting" Reader. --Karen __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 2-Dec-1998 14:21:30-GMT,1910;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA15506 for ; Wed, 2 Dec 1998 07:21:29 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA14456; Wed, 2 Dec 1998 08:18:24 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 2 Dec 1998 08:17:11 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA14318; Wed, 2 Dec 1998 08:17:07 -0600 From: Karen_L_Mibus@keybank.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: KEYCORP To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <852566CE.004DFF02.00@keybank.com> Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 09:16:39 -0500 Subject: [PDF] FDF Toolkit Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Our Intranet Server Administrator is attempting to install the appropriate components of the FDF Toolkit on the Windows NT, but he cannot determine exactly what he needs to do. I've looked for specific instructions without success. I'm sure someone on this list has performed this task! I'd be very grateful if you can share your knowledge and wisdom! Thank you in advance. :) --Karen __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 2-Dec-1998 14:22:17-GMT,3611;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA15526 for ; Wed, 2 Dec 1998 07:22:16 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA14741; Wed, 2 Dec 1998 08:21:28 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 2 Dec 1998 08:20:24 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA14643; Wed, 2 Dec 1998 08:20:22 -0600 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Acrobat In Browser Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 14:19:21 -0000 Message-ID: <000701be1dfe$c4b8d9e0$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 In-Reply-To: <852566CE.004C259C.00@keybank.com> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > Aandi wrote: > > Did you mean to start your second sentence "Is it..." rather > than "It is..."? > If not, what do you mean, technically - automating the download > and installation of a 4+ megabyte piece of software without the > user's knowledge? Hardly sounds practical or friendly on today's > internet. > > No, I do not mean automating the download and installation. > Instead I'm > referring to the ability to store and launch the Reader > plug-in from the > Web server. When a user clicks the file link to a PDF file, > the Reader is > launched automatically from the server. Then, when the user completes > viewing the PDF, the Reader plug-in closes. There is no download or > installation, and the Reader appears within the Internet > browser as it does > now. In essence, this is a way to create a more seamless > viewing of PDF. I don't want to start sounding insulting, but are you basing this on any actual technical analysis, or just an "it should be like that" speculation? Talk of "launching the plug-in from the server" sounds as though you do not have a clear understanding of the difference between client and server, and what each is capable of. What information do you envisage the web server sending to the browser? Huge high-resolution images of each page seems the only possibility with today's browsers, and that does need seem like any sort of step forward. Or are you envisaging a new generation of browser with some as yet unseen facility. Or perhaps that the code making up the PDF reader is passed to the web server each time a PDF file is to be viewed? This comes back to the "4 megabyte download to read each 40K PDF" problem, again not a step forward. In all seriousness, I would like your idea to work, but I just don't see what you are getting at. Aandi __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 2-Dec-1998 14:47:23-GMT,3648;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA15971 for ; Wed, 2 Dec 1998 07:47:22 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA17458; Wed, 2 Dec 1998 08:45:18 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 2 Dec 1998 08:43:32 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA17216; Wed, 2 Dec 1998 08:43:29 -0600 From: Karen_L_Mibus@keybank.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: KEYCORP To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <852566CE.004EECEB.00@keybank.com> Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 09:37:55 -0500 Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF as a Native filetype in Browsers Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Michael Sterne wrote: I think that Netscape and Microsoft would be interested in bundling these products in their browsers, it would be just another feature. I don't however think that Adobe would be too interested in a headless version. On each splash screen of their reader there is an advertisement for Acrobat. They would have to trade that for a logo in the about: page. I'm sure this "native"ness would be implemented in the form of a module loaded into memory when a PDF was first encountered similar to how the JVM is loaded with the first applet. But, if PDF was extremely popular(as popular as HTML or JPG) I was just saying that it would be nice to have a PDF parser built in to the browser, just as an HTML parser is built in. I sent another message to the list before reading the other responses--including Michael's--about PDF as a native filetype in browsers. I agree with Michael that there is a chance both Netscape and Microsoft would be interested in bundling the Reader plug-in with a splash screen. When my development team mentioned the concept of a "self-extracting" Reader with our Adobe representatives, I understood from the Adobe sales reps that Adobe may consider this possiblity. I mentioned earlier that my clients are asking for the ability to view PDF without the need to download and install software. We expect our customers to view an announcement regarding changes in a service agreement and if they accept those changes, we need legally adequate proof that they understood and accepted the changes. The service changes vary per type of service; hence, we need to customize each document and maintain confidentiality (PDF is ideal for this type of document). In addition, the method we select for posting or delivering the changes must satisfy certain legal compliance requirements. The lawyers are questioning whether the expectation that a customer download and install special software (the Reader) is legally acceptable. Ideally, they'd like to remove the need for "special software." --Karen __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 2-Dec-1998 14:53:23-GMT,2677;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA16091 for ; Wed, 2 Dec 1998 07:53:14 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA17987; Wed, 2 Dec 1998 08:49:31 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 2 Dec 1998 08:48:25 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA17861; Wed, 2 Dec 1998 08:48:23 -0600 Message-Id: <199812021448.IAA17848@everglades.binc.net> Subject: Re: [PDF] FDF Toolkit Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 09:48:07 -0500 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: Mark Gavin To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > [Karen_L_Mibus@keybank.com wrote on 12/2/98 9:16 AM] >Our Intranet Server Administrator is attempting to install the appropriate >components of the FDF Toolkit on the Windows NT, but he cannot determine >exactly what he needs to do. I've looked for specific instructions without >success. I'm sure someone on this list has performed this task! I'd be >very grateful if you can share your knowledge and wisdom! > >Thank you in advance. :) > >--Karen Karen, The FDF Toolkit is a C library that is compiled into a custom application or CGI that you need to write. There is no stand alone portion of the FDF Toolkit for your Administrator to install onto a web server. Adobe claims to be working on Perl and Java versions of the toolkit; if and when these become available; there will be something that can be installed. Though, you will still need to write a CGI in Perl or Java to take advantage of the Toolkit. Mark Gavin Vice President, Software Development Digital Applications, Inc. 215 East Providence Road Aldan, PA, USA 19018-4129 (610) 284-4006 mgavin@DigApp.com http://www.DigApp.com __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 2-Dec-1998 15:02:20-GMT,2027;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA16261 for ; Wed, 2 Dec 1998 08:02:03 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA19252; Wed, 2 Dec 1998 09:00:36 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 2 Dec 1998 08:59:15 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA19056; Wed, 2 Dec 1998 08:59:10 -0600 From: Karen_L_Mibus@keybank.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: KEYCORP To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <852566CE.0051DA1D.00@keybank.com> Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 09:58:33 -0500 Subject: [PDF] PDF as a Native filetype in Browsers Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Here is an example of how some folks feel about add-ons, plug-ins, etc.: 1. CNET Premieres you don't want to miss Add streaming video and audio to your Web site without additional server software or irksome plug-ins with EMBLAZE VIDEOPRO, a multimedia compressor and streamer: http://www.download.com/DD/dl/0%2C302%2C0-1201-1-001%2C00.html Note the term "irksome plug-ins." Unfortunately, some of my clients have a similar reaction to the Reader plug-in. --Karen __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 2-Dec-1998 15:40:52-GMT,3347;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA17162 for ; Wed, 2 Dec 1998 08:40:47 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA22966; Wed, 2 Dec 1998 09:36:58 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 2 Dec 1998 09:35:10 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA22743; Wed, 2 Dec 1998 09:35:03 -0600 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] PDF as a Native filetype in Browsers Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 15:20:34 -0000 Message-ID: <000c01be1e09$3fa576e0$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 In-Reply-To: <852566CE.004EECEB.00@keybank.com> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > In addition, the method we select for posting or delivering > the changes > must satisfy certain legal compliance requirements. The lawyers are > questioning whether the expectation that a customer download > and install > special software (the Reader) is legally acceptable. > Ideally, they'd like > to remove the need for "special software." That's a very interesting point. But I think it elevates the browser to some sort of "given", outside the normal rules of acquisition. Consider, then, what happens if Netscape 5.0 did include PDF viewing, directly and native. Many people run, forever, the web browser that they first received/was installed for them. That raises the question: "If you require people to have Netscape 5.0 to view the file, rather than their current browser, how is that different in any significant way from requiring them to have Acrobat downloaded and installed." To look at it another way, if you accept that the document must be viewable with whatever browser the user happens to have, you may be limited to using the most basic generic, text-only HTML - and not via any protection because not all browsers support passwords. Depending on your client base, you may be dealing with corporate users who are forbidden from downloading or upgrading any software (and will be fired if they try). That is a very definite reason to look closely at whether PDF is suitable for a particular group. I don't think there is any real answer to this, but it might be fun watching the lawyers trying to find one! Aandi __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 2-Dec-1998 16:12:39-GMT,2875;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA18314 for ; Wed, 2 Dec 1998 09:12:38 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA26106; Wed, 2 Dec 1998 10:08:00 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 2 Dec 1998 10:05:37 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA25910; Wed, 2 Dec 1998 10:05:34 -0600 X-Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated X-Division: Core Technology X-Department: Product Interoperability Analysis X-URL: Message-Id: <4.1.19981202080033.00a65ee0@mail-303> X-Sender: isaacs@mail-303 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Wed, 02 Dec 1998 08:05:17 -0800 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com, Michael Stearne From: Dov Isaacs Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF as a Native filetype in Browsers In-Reply-To: <3664FF04.4F6172E0@eisolutions.com> References: <000001be1d63$60ed8820$66affea9@main> <4.1.19981201201733.00a5c6c0@mail-303> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > At 12/2/98 12:49 AM , Michael Stearne wrote: >I'm sure this "native"ness would be implemented in the form of a module loaded >into memory when a PDF was first encountered similar to how the JVM is loaded >with the first applet. But, if PDF was extremely popular(as popular as HTML or >JPG) I was just saying that it would be nice to have a PDF parser built in to >the browser, just as an HTML parser is built in. The reason why it can't be "built in" to a single module that interprets HTML, manages web links, and makes mounds of cole slaw is that it isn't just a matter of "parsing" PDF. The Portable Document Format is a major subset of the capabilities available in Adobe PostScript. Thus, Acrobat Reader is effectively a subsetted PostScript interpreter with a full graphics rendering system based on the PostScript imaging model with ability to translate out into GDI on Windows and QuickDraw on the Mac. - Dov __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 2-Dec-1998 16:15:37-GMT,3462;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA18387 for ; Wed, 2 Dec 1998 09:15:31 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA27006; Wed, 2 Dec 1998 10:14:31 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 2 Dec 1998 10:13:24 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA26772; Wed, 2 Dec 1998 10:13:22 -0600 From: "Pete Koolish" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] FDF Toolkit Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 08:13:19 -0800 Message-ID: <000401be1e0e$ad3b1b60$cac8c8c8@screamer.netgate.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 In-Reply-To: <852566CE.004DFF02.00@keybank.com> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Karen, If you are refering to the ActiveX library for FDF it is composed of two modules: FdfTK.dll and Fdfacx.dll These should be placed in the \winnt\system32 directory. If you are using NTFS then these modules will need to be given execute permission for the server. These installation directions are documented in the FDF Toolkit Reference Manual for ActiveX which is at http://beta1.adobe.com/ada/acrosdk/forms.html There used to be a good guide to getting started with the forms ActiveX that was titled "Forms Systems Implementation Notes" but I can't seem to find it anymore. I can send you a copy if you wish. Pete ------------------------------------------------------------- Pete Koolish 1036 Whitebick Drive The PDF Group San Jose, CA 95129 pkoolish@pdfgroup.com 408.446.3156 ------------------------------------------------------------- > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com [mailto:owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com]On > Behalf Of Karen_L_Mibus@keybank.com > Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 1998 6:17 AM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: [PDF] FDF Toolkit > > > > < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > > Our Intranet Server Administrator is attempting to install the appropriate > components of the FDF Toolkit on the Windows NT, but he cannot determine > exactly what he needs to do. I've looked for specific > instructions without > success. I'm sure someone on this list has performed this task! I'd be > very grateful if you can share your knowledge and wisdom! > > Thank you in advance. :) > > --Karen > > __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 2-Dec-1998 17:54:20-GMT,2493;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA21265 for ; Wed, 2 Dec 1998 10:54:19 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA05434; Wed, 2 Dec 1998 11:49:51 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 2 Dec 1998 11:43:42 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA04810; Wed, 2 Dec 1998 11:43:39 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19981202125436.0093bc50@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 02 Dec 1998 12:54:36 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] What does "Out of Memory" mean? In-Reply-To: <36654341.A2BD254C@ix.netcom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > >I know that sounds like a stupid question... but I have tried adding >memory to the application (Exchange), the Desktop PrintSpooler (it's a >Mac), and just about everything else and I STILL get this message when I >try and print pdf documents that were created in Freehand!!!! > If it were Windows, the answer might be simpler. Out of memory messages in Windows generally mean that something, nearly anything but a shortage of memory, has happened but it doesn't fit any of the known causes in the error handling routines, so it kvetches about memory. Red herring, IOW. Perhaps the Mac is equally intelligent in this respect? Or maybe there really IS a memory problem. Have you tried creating very simple PDFs from Freehand? Maybe just a rectangle or two? Steve Rindsberg/Prez RDP http://www.rdpslides.com __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 2-Dec-1998 17:55:51-GMT,3637;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA21331 for ; Wed, 2 Dec 1998 10:55:37 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA05669; Wed, 2 Dec 1998 11:51:54 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 2 Dec 1998 11:50:49 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA05540; Wed, 2 Dec 1998 11:50:47 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19981202130147.009385b0@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 02 Dec 1998 13:01:47 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: RE: [PDF] Acrobat In Browser In-Reply-To: <000701be1dfe$c4b8d9e0$0101c6c0@gateway> References: <852566CE.004C259C.00@keybank.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > I think I had the "Aha-o-meter" tick over here. It sounds to me as though Karen has something like this in mind: Normally: you're browsing, you click on a link to a PDF, the Reader plug-in for your browser gets loaded from the local HDD, the PDF comes down the wire and you view it. Karen's suggestion, as I understand it: you're browsing, you click on a PDF link, and the Reader plug-in comes down the wire from the server rather than off the local HDD, then comes the PDF and it's ditto all the way to the finish line. IOW, it's a matter of where the plug-in comes from rather than what happens to the PDF itself. And you know, there might be some real advantages to this if it were possible (and I don't know that it is). It would be far simpler to ensure that users had the latest version of the plug-in, for one, and would spread the "mindless availability" of PDF farther/wider. > >What information do you envisage the web server sending to the >browser? Huge high-resolution images of each page seems the only >possibility with today's browsers, and that does need seem like any >sort of step forward. Or are you envisaging a new generation of >browser with some as yet unseen facility. > >Or perhaps that the code making up the PDF reader is passed to the >web server each time a PDF file is to be viewed? This comes back >to the "4 megabyte download to read each 40K PDF" problem, again >not a step forward. > >In all seriousness, I would like your idea to work, but I just >don't see what you are getting at. > >Aandi > >__________________________________________________________________ > >PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" > >@ PDF Showcase: >__________________________________________________________________ > > > Steve Rindsberg/Prez RDP http://www.rdpslides.com __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 2-Dec-1998 18:01:51-GMT,2631;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA21663 for ; Wed, 2 Dec 1998 11:01:46 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA06625; Wed, 2 Dec 1998 12:00:32 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 2 Dec 1998 11:59:17 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA06423; Wed, 2 Dec 1998 11:59:12 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19981202131009.00908100@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 02 Dec 1998 13:10:09 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF as a Native filetype in Browsers In-Reply-To: <852566CE.0051DA1D.00@keybank.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > > >Note the term "irksome plug-ins." Unfortunately, some of my clients have a >similar reaction to the Reader plug-in. > I can understand their not wanting to have to go scare up plug-ins every time they turn 'round, but it seems a bit what? Shortsighted? Unreasonable? to expect to access the special features of a special file format w/o accepting the need for special software to do this. I don't particularly care to have to download shockwave, streaming audio and all the other myriad plug ins, but it's a trade-off: I accept that for my sins, I will be punished by not being able to view some animations and listen to sounds. Would that all my other sins be so brutally punished! ;-) I don't quite understand the lawyers' position on all this. What constitutes "special" software? A plug-in? A particular version of a particular browser? ANY browser? TCP/IP software? The OS? Steve Rindsberg/Prez RDP http://www.rdpslides.com __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 2-Dec-1998 18:10:35-GMT,2041;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA21979 for ; Wed, 2 Dec 1998 11:10:34 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA06757; Wed, 2 Dec 1998 12:02:02 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 2 Dec 1998 12:00:55 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA06645; Wed, 2 Dec 1998 12:00:53 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19981202131154.00936290@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 02 Dec 1998 13:11:54 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: RE: [PDF] PDF as a Native filetype in Browsers In-Reply-To: <000c01be1e09$3fa576e0$0101c6c0@gateway> References: <852566CE.004EECEB.00@keybank.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > >I don't think there is any real answer to this, but it might be fun >watching the lawyers trying to find one! > And may you be punished for your sins as well, sir. Annoy a lawyer, it's a week in the Caribbean for you. Annoy two lawyers, two weeks ... Steve Rindsberg/Prez RDP http://www.rdpslides.com __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 2-Dec-1998 18:14:49-GMT,3282;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA22070 for ; Wed, 2 Dec 1998 11:14:47 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA07904; Wed, 2 Dec 1998 12:13:13 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 2 Dec 1998 12:11:58 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA07728; Wed, 2 Dec 1998 12:11:56 -0600 From: "Scott Matthewman" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Acrobat In Browser Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 18:09:34 -0000 Message-ID: <000001be1e1e$eb06dbe0$7aa8abc3@dtsm> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19981202130147.009385b0@pop.iglou.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.0810.800 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > IOW, it's a matter of where the plug-in comes from rather > than what happens > to the PDF itself. And you know, there might be some real > advantages to > this if it were possible (and I don't know that it is). It > would be far > simpler to ensure that users had the latest version of the > plug-in, for > one, and would spread the "mindless availability" of PDF > farther/wider. But you'd still have a huge amount of data transfer _before_ the PDF started to arrive. If that were the case, people would rapidly start looking at quicker alternatives to PDF... Myself, I'd rather see Adobe update their ActiveX/plugins (dep. on which browser you're using) and make it more seamless. For instance (and I'm describing what happends on my NT4 machine with IE4/5), creating a separate instance of Exchange/Reader on the taskbar, and then displaying the PDF file in the browser. The latest RealPlayer plug-in has it about right, IMHO. You have the option to load the majority of it when you startup your machine (which means activating it is quicker when you find the appropriate file) and it only displays in the Windows taskbar when there's a separate window involved. Scott Matthewman mailto:scott@direct-image.co.uk ------------------------------------------------------------ Direct Image Systems & Tel: +44 (171) 336 7300 Communications Limited Fax: +44 (171) 336 7156 ============================================================ __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 2-Dec-1998 18:35:11-GMT,2357;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA22592 for ; Wed, 2 Dec 1998 11:35:06 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA09740; Wed, 2 Dec 1998 12:28:40 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 2 Dec 1998 12:27:17 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA09427; Wed, 2 Dec 1998 12:27:08 -0600 Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 13:26:29 -0500 From: Michael Vorel Subject: [PDF] What does "Out of Memory" mean? To: "INTERNET:pdf@lists.pdfzone.com" Message-ID: <199812021326_MC2-6233-6884@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id MAA09419 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Message text written by INTERNET:pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > I know that sounds like a stupid question... but I have tried adding memory to the application (Exchange), the Desktop PrintSpooler (it's a Mac), and just about everything else and I STILL get this message when I try and print pdf documents that were created in Freehand!!!! < Try disabling virtual memory if you have it enabled. Try your task once more and see if you have success. BTW how much real memory do you have? michael "Imagination, Imagination, a dream can be a dream come true with just that spark in me and you!" -Dreamfinder and Figment, Journey_into_Imagination __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 2-Dec-1998 19:11:04-GMT,2574;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA23644 for ; Wed, 2 Dec 1998 12:10:56 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA16762; Wed, 2 Dec 1998 13:06:22 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 2 Dec 1998 13:04:50 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA16560; Wed, 2 Dec 1998 13:04:49 -0600 Message-ID: <968ABE055736D211866D0000F81E3CCF1F6C60@exchange.iscg.com> From: "Lee, William" To: "'pdf'" Subject: [PDF] anyone familiar with building a pdf from a template based fdf? Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 14:06:08 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > For example, if I have a one page pdf with three data entry fields and an "Add Page" button that allows the user to spawn as many duplicates of this page as they need, from a template hidden in the pdf. The pages are appended one after the other. Each page has the same three fields on them. After filling out the entire form, the user hits a submit button, that calls an asp file that will export the fdf to a directory on our server. Now if I just create a direct link to that fdf file, it will open up the pdf based on the /F indicator. But it will only show you the original page with whatever values you entered there. It does not re-spawn the other pages you added. But when I check the fdf all the information appears to be there. I'm sure there is a step that I am missing. Is it necessary to use a CGI? If so, do i need to use FDFAddTemplate in some way? I've looked through the FDF Toolkit Reference Guide for Active X, but I didn't findan answer. TIA __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 2-Dec-1998 20:06:15-GMT,1719;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA25223 for ; Wed, 2 Dec 1998 13:06:09 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA24730; Wed, 2 Dec 1998 14:04:40 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 2 Dec 1998 14:03:34 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA24588; Wed, 2 Dec 1998 14:03:32 -0600 From: Laurie_Coyne@mail.amsinc.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: AMSINC To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <852566CE.006CEAAB.00@ams-central-gate-5a.amsinc.com> Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 14:50:40 -0500 Subject: [PDF] A Post Script Viewer Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > There are files on the internet that are post script format. I was looking for a post scirpt reader. If there is such a thing. Thank You __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 2-Dec-1998 20:11:44-GMT,2331;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA25351 for ; Wed, 2 Dec 1998 13:11:27 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA24133; Wed, 2 Dec 1998 13:59:08 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 2 Dec 1998 13:57:23 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA23916; Wed, 2 Dec 1998 13:57:22 -0600 Date: 2 Dec 98 11:57:13 -0700 Subject: RE: [PDF] Acrobat In Browser From: "Frank Midgley" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Mailer: Cyberdog/2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > On Wed, Dec 2, 1998 11:01 AM, Steve Rindsberg wrote: >Karen's suggestion, as I understand it: you're browsing, you click on a >PDF link, and the Reader plug-in comes down the wire from the server >rather than off the local HDD, then comes the PDF and it's ditto all the >way to the finish line. > >IOW, it's a matter of where the plug-in comes from rather than what >happens to the PDF itself. I think the misunderstanding here is that the reader is only a (very) small piece of the puzzle. Without Acrobat Reader or Exchange behind the scenes, the plug-in is useless. So while the plug-in itself is pretty small (200K on my Mac), it does you no good unless you have Reader or Exchange installed, each of which are multiple megs. -Frank __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 2-Dec-1998 21:21:23-GMT,1903;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA27092 for ; Wed, 2 Dec 1998 14:21:12 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA26332; Wed, 2 Dec 1998 14:16:21 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 2 Dec 1998 14:14:42 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA25997; Wed, 2 Dec 1998 14:14:40 -0600 Message-ID: <36659ED7.17261D47@aip.org> Date: Wed, 02 Dec 1998 15:11:03 -0500 From: Chris Hamlin Organization: AIP X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; I; SunOS 5.6 sun4u) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] A Post Script Viewer References: <852566CE.006CEAAB.00@ams-central-gate-5a.amsinc.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Laurie_Coyne@mail.amsinc.com wrote: > > > There are files on the internet that are post script format. I was looking > for a post scirpt reader. If there is such a thing. > > http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~ghost/ -- Chris Hamlin __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 2-Dec-1998 21:44:17-GMT,2974;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA27733 for ; Wed, 2 Dec 1998 14:43:20 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA08295; Wed, 2 Dec 1998 15:37:39 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 2 Dec 1998 15:34:17 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA07500; Wed, 2 Dec 1998 15:34:15 -0600 Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 16:33:47 -0500 From: olaf druemmer Subject: Re: [PDF] A Post Script Viewer To: PDF listserver Message-ID: <199812021633_MC2-623D-F113@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id PAA07496 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Why not try Acrobat: convert to PDF with Distiller and then view with Acrobat Reader/Exchange? Olaf Druemmer > > >< ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > > > >There are files on the internet that are post script format. I was looking >for a post scirpt reader. If there is such a thing. > >Thank You > > > >__________________________________________________________________ > >PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" > >@ PDF Showcase: >__________________________________________________________________ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Olaf Druemmer ------------------------------------------------------------------------- callas software gmbh Tel +49.30.44390310 Leonardo +49.30.44390311 Pappelallee 9 Fax +49.30.4416402 connect.pdf +49.30.44342391 D 10437 Berlin callas@compuserve.com http://www.callas.de ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Download 'White Paper PDF for Prepress': http://www.callas.de/pdf_wp.pdf ------------------------------------------------------------------------- __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 2-Dec-1998 22:23:41-GMT,3337;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA28869 for ; Wed, 2 Dec 1998 15:22:52 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA14776; Wed, 2 Dec 1998 16:17:57 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 2 Dec 1998 16:16:12 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA14397; Wed, 2 Dec 1998 16:16:09 -0600 From: Karen_L_Mibus@keybank.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: KEYCORP To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <852566CE.0079F141.00@keybank.com> Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 17:15:36 -0500 Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF as a Native filetype in Browsers Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Dov: Is it possible for the Acrobat Reader to imitate Emblaze VideoPro? (Note: The browser for using Emblaze VideoPro must be Java enabled.) Can we "stream" PDF from a Web site? Emblaze VideoPro lets you stream video from your Web site without plug-ins or server software, using small Java applets; visitors to your site won't have to download a plug-in, and the bandwidth requirement is modest. --------------- At 12/2/98 12:49 AM , Michael Stearne wrote: >I'm sure this "native"ness would be implemented in the form of a module loaded >into memory when a PDF was first encountered similar to how the JVM is loaded >with the first applet. But, if PDF was extremely popular(as popular as HTML or >JPG) I was just saying that it would be nice to have a PDF parser built in to >the browser, just as an HTML parser is built in. The reason why it can't be "built in" to a single module that interprets HTML, manages web links, and makes mounds of cole slaw is that it isn't just a matter of "parsing" PDF. The Portable Document Format is a major subset of the capabilities available in Adobe PostScript. Thus, Acrobat Reader is effectively a subsetted PostScript interpreter with a full graphics rendering system based on the PostScript imaging model with ability to translate out into GDI on Windows and QuickDraw on the Mac. - Dov __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 2-Dec-1998 22:55:05-GMT,2210;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA29779 for ; Wed, 2 Dec 1998 15:55:03 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA21600; Wed, 2 Dec 1998 16:50:51 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 2 Dec 1998 16:49:20 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA21255; Wed, 2 Dec 1998 16:49:18 -0600 Message-Id: <199812022249.GAA27582@relay14.jaring.my> From: "Lee TG" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 06:50:51 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: [PDF] Re: pdf-digest for December-2-98 [V2 #385] In-reply-to: <199812021827.MAA09465@everglades.binc.net> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01c) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > > Is there anyway to have a link to a PDF and tell the browser to prompt > > the user to save the file, instead of opening it in the browser. Even > > if the Reader is installed I want them to have the option of saving the > > file without right clicking and Save As... If that is so, then you may click on the link to pdf file while pressing on the shift key to save as, rather than opeing the file in the browser. TG Lee Penang, MALAYSIA Homepage: http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/2738 Year 2000 Website: http://www.silicon.net.my/y2k/ __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 2-Dec-1998 23:20:09-GMT,7414;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA00559 for ; Wed, 2 Dec 1998 16:19:47 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA27073; Wed, 2 Dec 1998 17:18:16 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 2 Dec 1998 17:16:55 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA26767; Wed, 2 Dec 1998 17:16:54 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.2.32.19981202151843.00908300@mail-345> X-Sender: dsites@mail-345 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.2 (32) Date: Wed, 02 Dec 1998 15:18:43 -0800 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: "Richard L. Sites" Subject: Re: [PDF] Why still 2.1 Compatibility / compression Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Compression and Resampling options in PDF files Dick Sites Adobe Systems, Inc. December, 1998 There are a number of compression options in PDF. Some have always been in the PDF language, and one was added in PDF 1.2/Acrobat 3.0. Compression techniques divide into those that are lossless and those that are lossy. In addition, there are many resampling options in programs that generate PDF images. COMPRESSION =========== As the names imply, a lossless compression technique returns exactly the original bits upon decompression, while a lossy technique introduces noise or differences that can range from minor to quite visible. It is always safe to use a LOSSLESS compression technique. It NEVER makes sense to prohibit compression outright; it does make sense in some environments to prohibit lossy or very lossy compression. The compression techniques in PDF are all well-documented standards. Here are the PDF language compression techniques (using their common names), listed with better ones first: PDF-1.2 PDF-1.1 PDF-1.0 Acrobat Acrobat Acrobat ======= Images ======= text/ Lossless 3.x 2.x 1.x Color Grayscale B&W graphics ---------- ------- ------- ------- ------- ------- ------- ------- Flate/Zip* Y Y Y Y** Y LZW* Y Y Y Y Y Y** Y CCITT Fax Group 4 Y Y Y Y CCITT Fax Group 3 Y Y Y Y Run Length Y Y Y Y Lossy ---------- JPEG*** Y Y Y Y Y * Compresses 8-bit or 4-bit "characters". Use 8-bit unless you have an image with 4 bits per pixel color/gray, in which case 4-bit MIGHT give a slightly better reduction in size. ** Not recommended for bitonal images. CCITT Group 4 usually gives better compression. *** You can choose the degree of noise introduced -- JPEG Low means low compression = high quality. In many environments, high-quality JPEG is perfectly acceptable. The only way to tell is to experiment. Flate/Zip (one technique with two names) was new in Acrobat 3.0; if you use it you usually get smaller files than with Acrobat 2.1's LZW, but someone with Acrobat 2.1 cannot read your file. Adobe generally recommends Flate/Zip for lossless compression of everything except bitonal images. (If you must actively support a large user population with Acrobat 2.1 or earlier, use LZW instead.) CCITT Group 4 is best for bitonal images. Adobe generally recommends CCITT Group 4 for lossless compression of bitonal images. CCITT Group 3 is an older fax standard that gives less compression than Group 4. Run Length is based on the original Apple Macintosh run length encoding. Because they are simpler, these had a little to recommend them when CPUs were the speed of 286 or 68000 chips. Today they are not recommended. JPEG is used worldwide in digital television and digital cameras and on the Web. At medium or low quality (medium or high compression) it can look very grainy. At high quality it can be unnoticeable. JPEG is intended for use on pictures of the real world; it often introduces noticeable artifacts in synthetic pictures, such as screen shots. RESAMPLING ========== The resampling options in PDFWriter and Distiller and Photoshop work only on images (not text or graphics). They allow you to convert, say, a 300 DPI image to 72 DPI. A 300 DPI image has about 16 times as many pixels as a 72 DPI image, so resampling can have a noticeable effect on file size. However, after compression using one of the recommended techniques above, the difference in file size might not be as dramatic. (Resampling could also be used to convert a 72 DPI image to 300 DPI, but this can't make the image better; all it does is make the file bigger -- don't do it.) Resampling is lossy. In fact, it can be VERY lossy if you change the DPI by more than about a factor of 2. On the other hand, there is little point in keeping a 2400 DPI image in a PDF file if it will never be viewed or printed at a resolution above 300 DPI. A good rule of thumb is to consider resampling to twice the resolution you expect to use for printing or viewing. This suggests that going below about 150 DPI will give poor-quality results even on 72-DPI VGA monitors. Two different techniques are used for resampling. Downsampling averages the pixels of the original to get each pixel of the final result. Subsampling just picks one of the pixels of the original to get each pixel of the final result. Subsampling is an inferior technique. Because it is simpler, it had a little to recommend it when CPUs were the speed of 286 or 68000 chips. Today it is NOT recommended. [Subsampling an image is the technique of choice for making thin lines and text disappear in screen shots, scanner output, and Type 3 fonts. You don't want it. Don't use it.] Bicubic downsampling, where available, is even better than plain downsampling -- it uses cubic curves instead of straight lines to interpolate the pixels in the X and Y directions. COLOR DEPTH =========== A third way to reduce the size of images is available in Photoshop and other image products -- color depth reduction. For example, you can convert 8-bit grayscale to 4-bit, or 24-bit color images to 8-bit, reducing the space needed by a factor of two or three. Color depth reduction is lossy, but in some images the fine detail of color shading is not needed. Using compression, resampling, and color depth, you can usually achieve a good balance between viewing quality and file size. __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 2-Dec-1998 23:22:44-GMT,4581;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA00773 for ; Wed, 2 Dec 1998 16:22:43 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA27732; Wed, 2 Dec 1998 17:20:49 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 2 Dec 1998 17:19:33 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA27365; Wed, 2 Dec 1998 17:19:31 -0600 X-ROUTED: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 19:20:06 -0500 Message-ID: <3665CB8B.E3EAEDC5@eisolutions.com> Date: Wed, 02 Dec 1998 18:21:47 -0500 From: Michael Stearne X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF as a Native filetype in Browsers References: <852566CE.0079F141.00@keybank.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Karen_L_Mibus@keybank.com wrote: > < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > > Dov: > Is it possible for the Acrobat Reader to imitate Emblaze VideoPro? (Note: > The browser for using Emblaze VideoPro must be Java enabled.) Can we > "stream" PDF from a Web site? > This is very possible with Java, exactly how Emblaze does it, the only different between PDF and Emblaze VideoPro is the "using small Java applets". A PDF reader is more complex to build then a video player, so instead of "using small Java applets" you would need to use BIG Java applets. Like 2-4 MBs. Before you can view Emblaze VideoPro content you actually download and "install" the applets. You would have to do the same with a PDF reader but the reader Applets would pretty big. Michael This will finally this isuue to rest. > > Emblaze VideoPro > lets you stream > video from your Web > site without plug-ins > or server software, > using small Java > applets; visitors to your site won't > have to download a plug-in, and > the bandwidth requirement is > modest. > > --------------- > At 12/2/98 12:49 AM , Michael Stearne wrote: > >I'm sure this "native"ness would be implemented in the form of a module > loaded > >into memory when a PDF was first encountered similar to how the JVM is > loaded > >with the first applet. But, if PDF was extremely popular(as popular as > HTML or > >JPG) I was just saying that it would be nice to have a PDF parser built > in to > >the browser, just as an HTML parser is built in. > The reason why it can't be "built in" to a single module that interprets > HTML, manages web links, and makes mounds of cole slaw is that it isn't > just > a matter of "parsing" PDF. The Portable Document Format is a major subset > of > the capabilities available in Adobe PostScript. Thus, Acrobat Reader is > effectively a subsetted PostScript interpreter with a full graphics > rendering > system based on the PostScript imaging model with ability to translate out > into > GDI on Windows and QuickDraw on the Mac. > - Dov > __________________________________________________________________ > PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" > > @ PDF Showcase: > __________________________________________________________________ > > __________________________________________________________________ > > PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" > > @ PDF Showcase: > __________________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 3-Dec-1998 12:37:28-GMT,3310;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA18354 for ; Thu, 3 Dec 1998 05:37:27 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA20687; Thu, 3 Dec 1998 06:31:36 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 3 Dec 1998 06:29:22 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA20521; Thu, 3 Dec 1998 06:29:20 -0600 X-Sender: showker@mail.rockhopper.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 3 Dec 1998 07:25:08 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Fred Showker Subject: [PDF] PDF File Size Suddenly Doubles ??? Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Greetings everyone... Have you had similar experience? Here's the problem: Our monthly zine(s) for nearly 5 years now have averaged 300 to 500K in their native program, either Quark XPress or RGS. . . . Those have consistently printed to 4-meg +/- Postscript files then Distilled back down to under 500K, and usually around the 350 to 400K mark. . . . We recently upgraded the Macs to OS/8.1 and installed Adobe ATM Deluxe. . . . Suddenly we cannot get a distilled file less than about 750 to 800K. What do you suppose the problem is??? To check the situation, we took a file from last June, which is a 465K file and originally distilled to a 387K PDF file. Distilling it under the 'new' system set up, the EXACT SAME FILE renders out to 843K !!! What changed? HELP. 500K is the break point we have found over the past years to be the "point of resistance" that people wish to download. More than that and the number of downloads drops. We've grown from about 18,000 downloads per month (from 1991 to 1995 on AOL) to around 70,000 downloads per month in today's web. With the 'increased' file sizes we're seeing a 10 to 15% drop each month since October issue when the change occurred. Got ideas? Got tips on the smallest possible Distillation? Fred Showker, Editor/Publisher: DT&G Magazine DT&G Magazine ('97 APEX Grand Award Winner) * Photoshop Tips & Tricks .... * WebDesign & REVIEW (tm) .... * The Design & Publishing Center * The User Group Network News Service Now serving 167,000 readers per month! -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 3-Dec-1998 12:59:37-GMT,2805;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA18713 for ; Thu, 3 Dec 1998 05:59:36 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA22392; Thu, 3 Dec 1998 06:58:38 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 3 Dec 1998 06:57:27 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA22309; Thu, 3 Dec 1998 06:57:25 -0600 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19981203125627.00a1f684@marilyn.uochb.cas.cz> X-Sender: valter@marilyn.uochb.cas.cz X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 03 Dec 1998 13:56:27 +0100 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Bohumir Valter Subject: [PDF] Installing Reader with Search Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Hi everybody, We are preparing a CD with PDF files for our clients (using Win 3.1 or win95). All files are searchable (we used Adobe Catalog). Together with PDF files, we will include Acrobat Reader 3.01 with Search on the CD. We can expect that some of our clients updated their Acrobat Reader 3.01 to 3.02 which doesn't include Search. So we can expect these combinations on their PC's: a) Reader 3.02 b) Reader 3.01 without Search c) Reader older than 3.01 without Search d) PC without Reader e) Reader 3.01 with Search What is the best installation procedure for them for combinations a-c? Thank you for your help. Regards Bohumir Valter Editorial Manager -------------------------------------------------- Bohumir Valter Editorial Manager Collection of Czechoslovak Chemical Communications Flemingovo nam. 2 166 10 Praha 6 Czech Republic e-mail: valter@uochb.cas.cz phone: (+420 2) 311 12 71 fax: (+420 2) 311 12 71 http://cccc.uochb.cas.cz --------------------------------------------------- __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 3-Dec-1998 13:15:13-GMT,2085;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA19029 for ; Thu, 3 Dec 1998 06:15:12 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA23440; Thu, 3 Dec 1998 07:12:21 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 3 Dec 1998 07:11:08 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA23334; Thu, 3 Dec 1998 07:11:07 -0600 Message-ID: From: Myranda Hughes To: "'PDF-L@EMRG.COM'" Subject: [PDF] Color not showing up in PDF Date: Thu, 3 Dec 1998 08:08:50 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > We have just recently moved from PageMaker to FrameMaker, and have incorporated some color in our documents. When we convert to PDF, some of our systems maintain the color and it is viewable in the PDF file. Others end up with a black and white PDFs and none of the color is viewable. Is there a setting that we should be checking or has anyone else experienced this problem? Thanks in advance. Myranda Hughes Ontario Systems Corporation Myrandah@ontario.com __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 3-Dec-1998 14:10:56-GMT,2023;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA20120 for ; Thu, 3 Dec 1998 07:10:51 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA27326; Thu, 3 Dec 1998 08:07:34 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 3 Dec 1998 08:05:26 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA27189; Thu, 3 Dec 1998 08:05:24 -0600 From: pwong@acuityprepress.com Subject: Re: [PDF] A Post Script Viewer Date: Thu, 3 Dec 98 09:07:45 EST Message-ID: <0009FF42.fc@acuityprepress.com> X-FirstClass: 0x59F8 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x000F639B 0x0000 To: Laurie_Coyne@mail.amsinc.com Cc: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Organization: Acuity Computer Services Inc. X-HoloGate: 1.1.11a Lines: 19 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Laurie_Coyne@mail.amsinc.com,internet writes: There are files on the internet that are post script format. I was looking for a post scirpt reader. If there is such a thing. Thank You Laurie, Tailor 2.x (Mac) from Enfocus (www.enfocus.com) will read postscript files and view onscreen. Ghostscript (IBM) will do it on the PC. I think this is shareware. Regards, Peter Wong Acuity Digital Imaging Toronto Canada __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 3-Dec-1998 14:15:05-GMT,2202;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA20187 for ; Thu, 3 Dec 1998 07:14:50 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA27482; Thu, 3 Dec 1998 08:09:04 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 3 Dec 1998 08:08:00 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA27350; Thu, 3 Dec 1998 08:07:59 -0600 Message-ID: <36669A46.24545520@gel.com> Date: Thu, 03 Dec 1998 09:03:50 -0500 From: Alan Johnson Organization: General Engineering Labs, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: PDF mailing list Subject: [PDF] Two questions regarding document info fields and Catalog Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > They are... 1) Why is text entered into bookmarks, notes, and the like not searchable in a Catalog index? If it is, what do I have to do to activate this? 2) How much trouble is is to add additional info fields. The docs say I need a "customized" version of Exchange. The PDF specs say I need to access the SetDocInfoCalls that are a part of the API. I assume this would have to be done via a plug-in? Does anyone already have a plug-in that will do this? TIA, Alan Johnson __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 3-Dec-1998 14:52:44-GMT,3448;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA21044 for ; Thu, 3 Dec 1998 07:52:43 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA31180; Thu, 3 Dec 1998 08:49:32 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 3 Dec 1998 08:48:13 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA31003; Thu, 3 Dec 1998 08:48:09 -0600 From: Karen_L_Mibus@keybank.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: KEYCORP To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <852566CF.004F328D.00@keybank.com> Date: Thu, 3 Dec 1998 09:47:31 -0500 Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF as a Native filetype in Browsers Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Thanks, Steve, for providing this more detailed explanation. However, my understanding is that the Reader plug-in needs to be included with the browser so that it can load the actual Reader from the server to the browser. Correct? Michael's description of how the Reader could mimic Emblaze sounds promising. Would the large Java applets need to be installed every time a PDF file is launched? I appreciate everyone's explanations about the viability of viewing PDF files on the Web without downloading and installing the Reader. Obviously, I've never programmed Acrobat plug-ins, so I'm not knowledgeable about Acrobat's design from a programmer's point of view. I did discuss the possibilities of a server-based Reader with our Adobe sales reps. They thought it would be possible to design the Reader to display PDF files on the Web without downloading and installing the Reader on one's hard drive. Thanks again, everyone! --Karen --------------- I think I had the "Aha-o-meter" tick over here. It sounds to me as though Karen has something like this in mind: Normally: you're browsing, you click on a link to a PDF, the Reader plug-in for your browser gets loaded from the local HDD, the PDF comes down the wire and you view it. Karen's suggestion, as I understand it: you're browsing, you click on a PDF link, and the Reader plug-in comes down the wire from the server rather than off the local HDD, then comes the PDF and it's ditto all the way to the finish line. IOW, it's a matter of where the plug-in comes from rather than what happens to the PDF itself. And you know, there might be some real advantages to this if it were possible (and I don't know that it is). It would be far simpler to ensure that users had the latest version of the plug-in, for one, and would spread the "mindless availability" of PDF farther/wider. Steve Rindsberg/Prez RDP http://www.rdpslides.com __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 3-Dec-1998 15:01:21-GMT,1812;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA21224 for ; Thu, 3 Dec 1998 08:00:13 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA32116; Thu, 3 Dec 1998 08:59:20 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 3 Dec 1998 08:58:07 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA31955; Thu, 3 Dec 1998 08:58:00 -0600 From: Laurie_Coyne@mail.amsinc.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: AMSINC To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <852566CF.00517328.00@ams-central-gate-5a.amsinc.com> Date: Thu, 3 Dec 1998 09:52:08 -0500 Subject: [PDF] Word 97 in Windows 98 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Is there a fix for word 97 running in windows 98. The problem I encounter is when I send a word file to the PDF Writer Word97 crashes. I can launch Word97 again and send the Word97 file to the PDF Writer and it works fine Help! __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 3-Dec-1998 15:13:47-GMT,2101;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA21506 for ; Thu, 3 Dec 1998 08:13:27 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA00586; Thu, 3 Dec 1998 09:09:57 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 3 Dec 1998 09:08:19 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA00406; Thu, 3 Dec 1998 09:08:18 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19981203101921.0092e940@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 03 Dec 1998 10:19:21 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: RE: [PDF] Acrobat In Browser In-Reply-To: <000001be1e1e$eb06dbe0$7aa8abc3@dtsm> References: <3.0.5.32.19981202130147.009385b0@pop.iglou.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > >But you'd still have a huge amount of data transfer _before_ the PDF >started to arrive. If that were the case, people would rapidly start >looking at quicker alternatives to PDF... You may be right. I've just recently had to install MSIE4 and haven't a clue where the PDF plug-in's gotten off to. How big *is* it? Steve Rindsberg/Prez RDP http://www.rdpslides.com __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 3-Dec-1998 15:14:04-GMT,1958;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA21511 for ; Thu, 3 Dec 1998 08:13:31 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA00757; Thu, 3 Dec 1998 09:11:29 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 3 Dec 1998 09:10:25 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA00671; Thu, 3 Dec 1998 09:10:23 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19981203102126.0090e390@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 03 Dec 1998 10:21:26 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: RE: [PDF] Acrobat In Browser In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > >I think the misunderstanding here is that the reader is only a (very) small >piece of the puzzle. Without Acrobat Reader or Exchange behind the scenes, >the plug-in is useless. And of course you're right. What was I thinking? Sheesh. Steve Rindsberg/Prez RDP http://www.rdpslides.com __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 3-Dec-1998 15:23:48-GMT,2498;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA21739 for ; Thu, 3 Dec 1998 08:23:43 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA01862; Thu, 3 Dec 1998 09:20:07 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 3 Dec 1998 09:18:50 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA01676; Thu, 3 Dec 1998 09:18:49 -0600 From: "Scott Matthewman" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Word 97 in Windows 98 Date: Thu, 3 Dec 1998 15:16:23 -0000 Message-ID: <000101be1ecf$e4657330$7aa8abc3@dtsm> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <852566CF.00517328.00@ams-central-gate-5a.amsinc.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.0810.800 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Hi Laurie, > Is there a fix for word 97 running in windows 98. The > problem I encounter > is when I send a word file to the PDF Writer Word97 crashes. > I can launch Word97 again and send the Word97 file to the PDF > Writer and it > works fine I have two questions: a) What version of Word97 are you using (i.e., have you applied Service Pack 1 and/or 2 yet)? b) What PDF production template are you using (look in Tools|Templates and Add-Ins...)? If you're using PDFWriter.dot, can I suggest downloading PDFMaker from Adobe's support site, as it seems to be a lot more stable. It can also produce much better quality PDFs using Distiller Assistant if you have that facility. Scott __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 3-Dec-1998 15:31:13-GMT,2931;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA21931 for ; Thu, 3 Dec 1998 08:31:12 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA02694; Thu, 3 Dec 1998 09:27:49 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 3 Dec 1998 09:26:33 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA02508; Thu, 3 Dec 1998 09:26:30 -0600 From: "Stan Glenn" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Word 97 in Windows 98 Date: Thu, 3 Dec 1998 07:29:38 -0800 Message-ID: <000201be1ed1$bd17bc00$8e5c96d1@sglenn.cbspayroll.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-reply-to: <852566CF.00517328.00@ams-central-gate-5a.amsinc.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Laurie, wonder if you need to do a reinstall? I have the same exact setup and it works fine. Do you have enough memory? I was running 32 megs with no problem, but upgraded to 64 anyway. > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com [mailto:owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com]On > Behalf Of Laurie_Coyne@mail.amsinc.com > Sent: Thursday, December 03, 1998 6:52 AM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: [PDF] Word 97 in Windows 98 > > > > < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > > > > Is there a fix for word 97 running in windows 98. The problem I encounter > is when I send a word file to the PDF Writer Word97 crashes. > I can launch Word97 again and send the Word97 file to the PDF > Writer and it > works fine > > Help! > > > > > > __________________________________________________________________ > > PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" > > @ PDF Showcase: > __________________________________________________________________ > __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 3-Dec-1998 16:18:53-GMT,2293;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA23141 for ; Thu, 3 Dec 1998 09:18:20 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA07247; Thu, 3 Dec 1998 10:13:11 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 3 Dec 1998 10:11:22 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA07080; Thu, 3 Dec 1998 10:11:19 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19981203112219.0083a390@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 03 Dec 1998 11:22:19 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF as a Native filetype in Browsers In-Reply-To: <852566CF.004F328D.00@keybank.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > >Thanks, Steve, for providing this more detailed explanation. However, my >understanding is that the Reader plug-in needs to be included with the >browser so that it can load the actual Reader from the server to the >browser. Correct? > This has been gently pointed out to me. I think I'll go back to sleep now. >Michael's description of how the Reader could mimic Emblaze sounds >promising. Would the large Java applets need to be installed every time a >PDF file is launched? > As to Java, I'm even more ignorant than I appear to be re PDF. Sigh. Steve Rindsberg/Prez RDP http://www.rdpslides.com __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 3-Dec-1998 16:22:37-GMT,3668;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA23219 for ; Thu, 3 Dec 1998 09:22:35 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA08167; Thu, 3 Dec 1998 10:21:20 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 3 Dec 1998 10:20:14 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA08056; Thu, 3 Dec 1998 10:20:11 -0600 Message-ID: <3666BBA0.F4679737@r5i.com> Date: Thu, 03 Dec 1998 10:26:08 -0600 From: daniel Organization: Red5Interactive X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.08 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Trouble printing PDF's Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------DEE730CFBBB0E9ABF096058D" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------DEE730CFBBB0E9ABF096058D Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello all - I'm hoping to draw on the experience and talents of readers on this mailing list to help me out. I'm a novice at PDF, and until recently I never had to do anything other than simply converting different kinds of documents to PDF. Recently I made a PDF file that used text form fields. The intent was to allow someone to open a PDF version of some paperwork, fill out the appropriate forms and then print a copy. For some reason, whenever you try to print the file from a PC, Acrobat crashes (specifically the ACROEX32 module) and won't print. Yet, the Macintoshes in our office are able to open the PDF, fill in the fields, and print with no problems at all. All the PC's we are using have this problem, and all computers, Mac or PC, are sharing the same printer. The PDF was created on a PC running Windows95. Any ideas what might be causing this or how to fix it? I need to determine if this is a printer/network issue on our end, or if it might be something about the PDF document itself. A sample of the PDF form I'm talking about can be viewed/downloaded from http://demo.r5i.com/pdf/form.pdf Any feedback is appreciated! Thanks, --------------DEE730CFBBB0E9ABF096058D Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="vcard.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for daniel stegall Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="vcard.vcf" begin: vcard fn: daniel stegall n: stegall;daniel org: Red 5 Interactive adr: 4549 Fluer Drive;;;Des Moines;IA ;50321;United States of America email;internet: daniel@r5i.com title: Web Developer tel;work: 515.287.5500 tel;fax: 515.287.0776 note: That which does not kill you makes you stranger. x-mozilla-cpt: ;0 x-mozilla-html: FALSE version: 2.1 end: vcard --------------DEE730CFBBB0E9ABF096058D-- __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 3-Dec-1998 17:36:44-GMT,2516;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA25054 for ; Thu, 3 Dec 1998 10:36:29 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA16786; Thu, 3 Dec 1998 11:32:53 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 3 Dec 1998 11:30:17 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA16446; Thu, 3 Dec 1998 11:30:10 -0600 X-ROUTED: Thu, 3 Dec 1998 13:30:50 -0500 Message-ID: <3666CB1A.A20CF693@eisolutions.com> Date: Thu, 03 Dec 1998 12:32:10 -0500 From: Michael Stearne X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF as a Native filetype in Browsers References: <852566CF.004F328D.00@keybank.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Karen_L_Mibus@keybank.com wrote: > > Michael's description of how the Reader could mimic Emblaze sounds > promising. Would the large Java applets need to be installed every time a > PDF file is launched? > Hmm. Actually, I not sure if applets are cached in your browser like images are to your local hard drive, when you view an image for the second time it loads very quickly. But, then again some of the concept of running the reader off the server was to make sure the user had the most recent version, this would make me think that the server would send a new reader applet every time a PDF is encountered to make sure it is the newest version of the reader. But these things would be more of configuration things down the road that could be fine tuned. Thanks, Michael Stearne > > __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 3-Dec-1998 18:17:23-GMT,2985;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA26140 for ; Thu, 3 Dec 1998 11:17:21 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA22410; Thu, 3 Dec 1998 12:12:11 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 3 Dec 1998 12:08:17 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA21969; Thu, 3 Dec 1998 12:08:15 -0600 From: Karen_L_Mibus@keybank.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: KEYCORP To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <852566CF.005432CC.00@keybank.com> Date: Thu, 3 Dec 1998 10:38:38 -0500 Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF as a Native filetype in Browsers Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Steve wrote: I don't quite understand the lawyers' position on all this. What constitutes "special" software? A plug-in? A particular version of a particular browser? ANY browser? TCP/IP software? The OS? Steve Rindsberg/Prez RDP http://www.rdpslides.com Steve: The lawyers object to the need to download, install, and learn to use a special browser to view legal documentation. In addition, users of that browser may need to upgrade their software to view the documentation. This requirement may impede access to crucial information. They are concerned about meeting all Federal Regulations as well as maintaining customer satisfaction. (Happy customers don't sue.) I'm not familiar with the exact wording of Federal compliance laws regarding the electronic distribution of service contract updates via the Internet, but our legal compliance rep did suggest that the wording is not precise. Maybe during our next meeting on this issue, our rep will have completed her homework on the issues and I'll be able to give you a more accurate explanation of their concerns. Since we want to use different letterheads for different types of customer services and documents, as well as customize those documents with customer information, Acrobat appears to be the best solution. I am hoping Adobe will consider making future versions of the Reader function in a manner similar to Emblaze VideoPro. --Karen __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 3-Dec-1998 16:33:24-GMT,3068;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA23466 for ; Thu, 3 Dec 1998 09:33:19 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA09179; Thu, 3 Dec 1998 10:31:45 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 3 Dec 1998 10:30:32 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA09095; Thu, 3 Dec 1998 10:30:30 -0600 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 3 Dec 1998 16:29:11 +0000 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: David R Evans Subject: Re: [PDF] Two questions regarding document info fields and Catalog In-Reply-To: <36669A46.24545520@gel.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Version 3.03a Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > In message <36669A46.24545520@gel.com>, Alan Johnson wrote: >1) Why is text entered into bookmarks, notes, and the like not >searchable in a Catalog index? If it is, what do I have to do > to activate this? Catalog only indexes text in the actual document, including document information fields, but no annotations. A plug-in could be written which allows searching of these, or perhaps Adobe could be persuaded to add this as a feature in future? >2) How much trouble is is to add additional info fields. The docs say >I need a "customized" version of Exchange. The PDF > specs say I need to access the SetDocInfoCalls that are a part >of the API. I assume this would have to be done via a > plug-in? Does anyone already have a plug-in that will do this? Our Options (version 2) product will do this, saving you the effort of working with the API. Details are available from our web site or direct from me. Regards David --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dr David R Evans Telephone: (+44) 115 9860048 / 9514230 Merlin Open Systems Facsimile: (+44) 115 9860048 P O Box 230 E-mail: dre@merlin-os.co.uk NOTTINGHAM WWW: http://www.merlin-os.co.uk/ NG2 1LJ, UK Acrobat resellers, specialists in Adobe Acrobat plug-ins and electronic publishing software, publishers of Acrobatics __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 3-Dec-1998 16:56:18-GMT,2774;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA23979 for ; Thu, 3 Dec 1998 09:56:17 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA10928; Thu, 3 Dec 1998 10:52:14 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 3 Dec 1998 10:49:42 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA10703; Thu, 3 Dec 1998 10:49:41 -0600 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 3 Dec 1998 08:48:15 -0800 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Todd Ruston Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF File Size Suddenly Doubles ??? Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > At 7:25 AM -0400 12/3/98, Fred Showker wrote: > To check the situation, we took a file from last June, which > is a 465K file and originally distilled to a 387K PDF file. > Distilling it under the 'new' system set up, the EXACT SAME FILE > renders out to 843K !!! > > What changed? HELP. > 500K is the break point we have found over the past years to be the > "point of resistance" that people wish to download. More than > that and the number of downloads drops. > > We've grown from about 18,000 downloads per month (from 1991 to > 1995 on AOL) to around 70,000 downloads per month in today's web. > > With the 'increased' file sizes we're seeing a 10 to 15% drop > each month since October issue when the change occurred. > > Got ideas? Got tips on the smallest possible Distillation? How did you do your upgrade? Is it possible the parameters in Distiller have changed? Have you checked? What are the parameters you're using? What Postscript driver are you using to create input for Distiller? -- Todd Ruston | mailto:truston@libpubinc.com Computer Services Manager | Voice: 323.871.1225 x 3028 Liberation Publications, Inc. | Fax: 323.467.0173 __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 3-Dec-1998 19:25:52-GMT,4632;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA28292 for ; Thu, 3 Dec 1998 12:25:47 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA28587; Thu, 3 Dec 1998 13:18:59 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 3 Dec 1998 13:16:23 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA28279; Thu, 3 Dec 1998 13:16:21 -0600 Message-ID: <3666E4E6.77262EF9@r5i.com> Date: Thu, 03 Dec 1998 13:22:14 -0600 From: daniel Organization: Red5Interactive X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.08 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Richard L. Sites" , pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Re: Trouble printing PDF's References: <3.0.2.32.19981203105718.00bc3140@mail-345> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Richard L. Sites wrote: > > I copied down your file and printed it successfully both from Acrobat 3.01 > under Windows NT 4.0 to an HP LJ 4+ printer, and from a Beta version of > Acrobat 4. I also looked at the insides of the file and see nothing wrong > with any of the objects. Perhaps you could be a little more specific: > - What version of Acrobat on the Mac? on the PC? We are using Acrobat 3.01 on both platforms. > - What OS and version on the Mac? on the PC? On the PCs we are running Win95 OSR II and our Mac's we are using 8.0 > - What printer on the Mac? on the PC? HP Laserjet 4 Plus > what PostScript level -- none, 1, 2, 3? I'm sorry, I'm not familiar with this. Where would I look to find this information? > - Are you printing from Reader, full Acrobat, Netscape browser plugin, IE > browser plugin, or what? Tried them all. Directly from Exchange, from within various browsers, you name it. Prints fine from the Macs, chokes and dies on the PC. > - Can you successfully check "print to file" in the print dialog and > create that file? No, a message that "Acrobat cannot print to PDFwriter" appears. This is probably not a good thing. > - Can you successfully print to a different printer (or perhaps to WinFax?) Haven't tried winfax, and sadly, there is only the one networked printer in my department. > - What software did you use to generate the file? The orginal document was an Illustrator 7 file, printed to PDF and edited in Exchange. > - Any particular reason why the file is Acrobat 2.1 compatible (PDF 1.1), > rather than Acrobat 3.0x? Yes, eventually, our entire company and some clients are going to switch to this software and some people/systems are slow or reluctant to upgrade. Does this make a big difference? > - Anything you did different in creating this, compared to files that you > print successfully? Not a single thing. We have other PDF's that include interactive features like buttons and things. Those print fine. It's only this file. I even remade it a couple of times in different ways (i.e. exporting to PDF from illustrator, "saving as" PDF in illustrator, using Distiller and Distiller Assistant). I'm really stumped. It seems like it might be a network issue, and at the same time, like there might be something peculiar about the file itself. > - I didn't fill in any fields before printing; did you? Yes, tried it both ways. Same result. Ok on the mac, dead on PC. Does any of this information help? I hope so. I really need to get this to work, but I'm rather perplexed by this. I keep hoping that I missed something simple somewhere, but I know that it's probably going to end up on our SysAdmins infinitely long "things to fix" list. Regardless, I really appreciate any insight or advice anyone can give. Thanks again, Daniel __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 3-Dec-1998 19:59:19-GMT,2660;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA29106 for ; Thu, 3 Dec 1998 12:59:14 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA32427; Thu, 3 Dec 1998 13:55:12 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 3 Dec 1998 13:53:56 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA32238; Thu, 3 Dec 1998 13:53:54 -0600 Message-ID: <697A4CA51395D111A658AA0004005806974BB3@NT6> From: "Pottinger, Hardy" To: "'dre@merlin-os.co.uk'" Cc: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: Re: [PDF] Two questions regarding document info fields and Catalo g Date: Thu, 3 Dec 1998 13:53:20 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > If I understand your 2nd question correctly, you would like to populate the info fields for a number of PDF files? If that's so, there are a few products out there that can do it, or, if you want to do a little programming, you can get VBA (Excel 97 works well) to do this--although it's easiest to populate each document with the same info, like a rubber stamp, you could probably figure something out. There's a bunch of code at http://www.roundtable.com.au/CodeCuts.htm that would help you. Otherwise, if you want to buy something to do this, Roundtable has a great little Excel macro that will make your life easier--PDFWorkshop. Goes for $100 US, I think. You can find info at the same site that I just mentioned. ----------------------------------- HARDY POTTINGER Information Coordinator Orthopaedic Research Society 6300 N River Rd Ste 727 Rosemont, IL 60018-4226 (847)384-4219 / FAX (847)823-0536 pottinger@aaos.org http://www.ors.org ----------------------------------- __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 3-Dec-1998 20:20:38-GMT,4125;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA29580 for ; Thu, 3 Dec 1998 13:20:28 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA01183; Thu, 3 Dec 1998 14:13:52 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 3 Dec 1998 14:12:10 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA01044; Thu, 3 Dec 1998 14:12:09 -0600 Message-ID: <968ABE055736D211866D0000F81E3CCF1F6C7D@exchange.iscg.com> From: "Lee, William" To: "'pdf'" Subject: RE: [PDF] anyone familiar with building a pdf from a template bas ed fdf? Date: Thu, 3 Dec 1998 15:13:26 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Okay I think I'm getting closer. Now with the help of Roberto I have realized that I have to re-build the pdf from the exported fdf data because i am adding pages using templates. Okay so now we have changed direction slightly, and we want to create a new pdf, and using an existing pdf (with embedded templates) and a fdf created with FDFCreate. Unfortunately i have no idea how this should work. the documentation is so sparse its ridiculous. Anyone have a sample? ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------- For example, if I have a one page pdf with three data entry fields and an > "Add Page" button that allows the user to spawn as many duplicates of this > page as they need, from a template hidden in the pdf. The pages are appended > one after the other. Each page has the same three fields on them. After > filling out the entire form, the user hits a submit button, that calls an > asp file that will export the fdf to a directory on our server. That FDF is a "traditional" FDF, meaning an FDF which simply contains the data in the PDF, but has no knowledge of how that PDF was constructed from templates. > Now if I just create a direct link to that fdf file, it will open up the pdf > based on the /F indicator. But it will only show you the original page with > whatever values you entered there. It does not re-spawn the other pages you > added. But when I check the fdf all the information appears to be there. Again, that's because that exported FDF does not contain the "recipe" for spawning pages. Any fields mentioned in the FDF but nor present in the PDF are silently ignored during import. > I'm sure there is a step that I am missing. Is it necessary to use a CGI? If > so, do i need to use FDFAddTemplate in some way? Yes! > I've looked through the FDF > Toolkit Reference Guide for Active X, but I didn't findan answer. Well, the information is there, but the documentation could be better :^) Here is how you should structure the program that produces the template-spawning FDF: FDFCreate FDFAddTemplate (pass the URL of the PDF containing the template as parameter) FDFSetValue (or FDFSetFlags, FDFSetOpt, etc.) Remember to use the field names as they appear in the template, and not the field names as they will get renamed after the templates are spawned (assuming you are choosing to have fields renamed) FDFSaveToFile (or FDFSaveToBuf) FDFClose Roberto Perelman Acrobat Engineering, Forms __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 3-Dec-1998 21:12:33-GMT,3430;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA00916 for ; Thu, 3 Dec 1998 14:12:16 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA05722; Thu, 3 Dec 1998 15:08:09 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 3 Dec 1998 15:05:25 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA05391; Thu, 3 Dec 1998 15:05:23 -0600 Message-ID: <3666FC1B.65A78307@gel.com> Date: Thu, 03 Dec 1998 16:01:16 -0500 From: Alan Johnson Organization: General Engineering Labs, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Two questions regarding document info fields and Catalog References: <697A4CA51395D111A658AA0004005806974BB3@NT6> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Thanks, but we're working in a Mac env, and I would like something that is as integrated with Exchange as possible. Additionally, I need to add some custom fields, in addition to populating the existing Doc Info fields. Alan "Pottinger, Hardy" wrote: > < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > > If I understand your 2nd question correctly, you would like to populate > the info fields for a number of PDF files? If that's so, there are a few > products out there that can do it, or, if you want to do a little > programming, you can get VBA (Excel 97 works well) to do this--although > it's easiest to populate each document with the same info, like a rubber > stamp, you could probably figure something out. There's a bunch of code > at http://www.roundtable.com.au/CodeCuts.htm that would help you. > Otherwise, if you want to buy something to do this, Roundtable has a > great little Excel macro that will make your life easier--PDFWorkshop. > Goes for $100 US, I think. You can find info at the same site that I > just mentioned. > > ----------------------------------- > HARDY POTTINGER > Information Coordinator > Orthopaedic Research Society > 6300 N River Rd Ste 727 > Rosemont, IL 60018-4226 > (847)384-4219 / FAX (847)823-0536 > pottinger@aaos.org > http://www.ors.org > ----------------------------------- > > __________________________________________________________________ > > PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" > > @ PDF Showcase: > __________________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 3-Dec-1998 21:26:50-GMT,2374;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA01222 for ; Thu, 3 Dec 1998 14:26:40 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA07540; Thu, 3 Dec 1998 15:25:11 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 3 Dec 1998 15:23:57 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA07269; Thu, 3 Dec 1998 15:23:55 -0600 Message-ID: <001601be1f03$001fce80$380d9fcf@default> From: "Jim Ripley" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] Why still 2.1 Compatibility / compression Date: Thu, 3 Dec 1998 13:12:32 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2120.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2120.0 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > To Dick Sites Thanks for your comprehensive answer, but I am a little confused. In Lesson 13 of AA CIB the following is stated: "LZW, ZIP. CCITT, and Run length are lossless compression methods, meaning no data is removed from the image. LZW 4-bit, LZW 8-bit, ZIP 4-bit, ZIP 8-bit and JPEG are lossy, meaning data is removed from the image." In the Distiller 3.02 compression options, ZIP without the suffix is not offered under and under ZIP/JPEG is an option. This is probably a stupid question with a simple answer, but ZIP/JPEG seem to be mutually exclusive. When is checked how does Distiller choose which to use? __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 3-Dec-1998 21:26:58-GMT,2898;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA01219 for ; Thu, 3 Dec 1998 14:26:25 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA07542; Thu, 3 Dec 1998 15:25:16 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 3 Dec 1998 15:24:00 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA07295; Thu, 3 Dec 1998 15:23:58 -0600 Message-ID: <001701be1f03$01a97bc0$380d9fcf@default> From: "Jim Ripley" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] Frame to PDF Hyperlinks Date: Thu, 3 Dec 1998 13:21:38 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2120.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2120.0 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Andi Inston: At your suggesting some time ago, I am attempting to use FrameMaker as a source document for prodicomg links in Acrobat. If I remember correctly you stated that you would not even change one letter of text except in the original source document. I even used the trial version of "Quite Imposing" to apply page numbers but to no avail. Can you or someone else help me with the proper syntax for referencing a particular page in an different already existing PDF file? > >Developing a TOC in FrameMaker 5.1 for a number of image only PDF >files. Is there a way to produce a hyperlink which will open to a specific >page in the image only files. > >I have tried: >gotopage filename:pagenumber and >openpage filename:pagenumber > >After printing to postscript and distilling the file, this opens the correct >imgae only PDF file but always to the first page. > > > >__________________________________________________________________ > >PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" > >@ PDF Showcase: >__________________________________________________________________ > __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 3-Dec-1998 22:27:04-GMT,2225;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA02677 for ; Thu, 3 Dec 1998 15:27:02 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA13327; Thu, 3 Dec 1998 16:23:20 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 3 Dec 1998 16:19:15 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA12921; Thu, 3 Dec 1998 16:19:10 -0600 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Why still 2.1 Compatibility / compression Date: Thu, 3 Dec 1998 22:18:19 -0000 Message-ID: <001001be1f0a$eddd7440$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 In-Reply-To: <001601be1f03$001fce80$380d9fcf@default> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > > In Lesson 13 of AA CIB the following is stated: > "LZW, ZIP. CCITT, and Run length are lossless compression > methods, meaning > no data is removed from the image. LZW 4-bit, LZW 8-bit, ZIP > 4-bit, ZIP > 8-bit and JPEG are lossy, meaning data is removed from the image." That statement is wrong, I think. ZIP 8 bit is not lossy at all. ZIP 4 bit is, because the colour channels are reduced to 4 bits. Aandi __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 3-Dec-1998 22:27:10-GMT,3508;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA02680 for ; Thu, 3 Dec 1998 15:27:09 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA13323; Thu, 3 Dec 1998 16:23:16 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 3 Dec 1998 16:19:13 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA12912; Thu, 3 Dec 1998 16:19:09 -0600 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Frame to PDF Hyperlinks Date: Thu, 3 Dec 1998 22:16:41 -0000 Message-ID: <000f01be1f0a$ec216c60$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 In-Reply-To: <001701be1f03$01a97bc0$380d9fcf@default> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > At your suggesting some time ago, I am attempting to use > FrameMaker as a > source document for prodicomg links in Acrobat. If I remember > correctly you > stated that you would not even change one letter of text except in the > original source document. I even used the trial version of > "Quite Imposing" > to apply page numbers but to no avail. > > Can you or someone else help me with the proper syntax for > referencing a > particular page in an different already existing PDF file? > > > >Developing a TOC in FrameMaker 5.1 for a number of image > only PDF >files. > Is there a way to produce a hyperlink which will open to a > specific >page in > the image only files. > > > >I have tried: > >gotopage filename:pagenumber and > >openpage filename:pagenumber > > > >After printing to postscript and distilling the file, this opens the > correct > >imgae only PDF file but always to the first page. I've seen your message in quite a few places now, and I suspect you may have reached the limits of what the online community can tell you. You are reaching well outside the scope of what I suggested, and in effect mixing metaphors. Frame's hypertext is designed for linking between Frame documents - as the warning messages state if you try to link to a nonexistent file. As such, they will try to link to the special markers that Frame would put in the file - but didn't because you didn't have Frame make the file. All is not lost, if you can find a way to add your own PostScript code to the Frame stream. I think you can. The syntax of pdfmark to link to a specific page number in an external PDF file is not too difficult, but I don't have it handy - can someone help me out here... Aandi __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 3-Dec-1998 23:12:06-GMT,3290;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA03808 for ; Thu, 3 Dec 1998 16:12:00 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA17222; Thu, 3 Dec 1998 17:08:05 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 3 Dec 1998 17:06:37 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA17056; Thu, 3 Dec 1998 17:06:35 -0600 Date: 03 Dec 98 17:07:30 -0600 From: Jeff Rochon Subject: RE: [PDF] PDF File Size Suddenly Doubles ??? To: pdf X-Mailer: QuickMail Pro 1.5.3 (Mac) X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-Ascii" Message-ID: <1299399929-1320593@jdtv.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id RAA17052 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > hi fred, with that understanding, it sounds like this is an issue with embedded = fonts. i would first look at atm deluxe since that also changed with the = upgrade to 8.1. reinstall the OTHER font management utility and redo the = pdf files. this will help narrow down if it is atm deluxe or the = operating system. in getting the smallest pdf files i have found that within distiller to = NOT make the pdf's 2.1 capatible. 3.0 uses better final compression and = that is lost when maknig them 2.1 capatible. also raise the percentage on = font embedding for subsets. the default is normally 35%. this means that = after the font usage in the document for that typeface is over 35% of the = entire family, acrobat includes the whole family even though not all = characters are used. raisingthis this will remove unnecessary characters = from the font thus reducing its final size. every little bit helps, = especially if you use many fonts. if all of this doesn't seem to help, try this last little trick. take the = final pdf file and open it in acrobat exchange. export the entire = document as an eps or postscript file, including all fonts. then = redistill the file into a new pdf. this practice known as "refrying" or "= rebaking" seems to drastically take down file size. not sure why, but it = does work. to achieve the file sizes that you require it will take some playing and i = would be real interested in knowing if atm deluxe is part of your file = size problem. i use suitcase 3.02 and have been looking into atm deluxe. hope this helps. all the best, jeff rochon __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 4-Dec-1998 0:34:48-GMT,2342;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA05743 for ; Thu, 3 Dec 1998 17:34:46 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA22262; Thu, 3 Dec 1998 18:31:52 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 3 Dec 1998 18:25:44 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA21915; Thu, 3 Dec 1998 18:25:42 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19981203193642.00849680@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 03 Dec 1998 19:36:42 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF as a Native filetype in Browsers In-Reply-To: <852566CF.005432CC.00@keybank.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > >Steve: >The lawyers object to the need to download, install, and learn to use a >special browser to view legal documentation. In addition, users of that >browser may need to upgrade their software to view the documentation. This >requirement may impede access to crucial information. They are concerned >about meeting all Federal Regulations as well as maintaining customer >satisfaction. (Happy customers don't sue.) But I'll bet the lawyers would also object strenuously to the lack of control over the document's presentation via HTML? Sounds like they want to have their cake and eat it too. Steve Rindsberg/Prez RDP http://www.rdpslides.com __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 4-Dec-1998 0:57:33-GMT,2887;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA06250 for ; Thu, 3 Dec 1998 17:57:32 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA23958; Thu, 3 Dec 1998 18:55:38 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 3 Dec 1998 18:54:18 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA23848; Thu, 3 Dec 1998 18:54:16 -0600 From: "Michael Peters" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Frame to PDF Hyperlinks Date: Thu, 3 Dec 1998 23:50:37 -0000 Message-ID: <001501be1f17$ee563ad0$0280227b@michael> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Aandi Inston wrote: >All is not lost, if you can find a way to add your own PostScript >code to the Frame stream. I think you can. The syntax of pdfmark >to link to a specific page number in an external PDF file is >not too difficult, but I don't have it handy - can someone help me >out here... Something like this should do it: [ /Rect [ 50 425 295 445 ] /Action /GoToR /File (something.pdf) /Page 3 /Border [ 0 0 2 ] /Color [ .7 0 0 ] /Subtype /Link /ANN pdfmark This might need to be encapsulated in an EPS file as follows: %!PS-Adobe-3.0 EPSF-3.0 %%BoundingBox: 0 0 295 445 systemdict /pdfmark known not {userdict /pdfmark systemdict /cleartomark get put } if [ /Rect [ 0 0 295 445 ] /Action /GoToR /File (something.pdf) /Page 3 /Border [ 0 0 2 ] /Color [ .7 0 0 ] /Subtype /Link /ANN pdfmark %%EOF Regards Michael Peters __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 4-Dec-1998 2:42:47-GMT,1882;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA08560 for ; Thu, 3 Dec 1998 19:42:41 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA30235; Thu, 3 Dec 1998 20:34:16 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 3 Dec 1998 20:31:55 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA30032; Thu, 3 Dec 1998 20:31:53 -0600 Message-ID: <01BE1F70.ED40D5C0@irsb.innosabah.com.my> From: Nathan Lim To: "'pdf'" Subject: [PDF] [pdf] HTML to PDF to RTF converter Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 10:29:06 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Anyone know where I can get a batch plug-in or macro that can batch convert HTML files to PDF then to RTF? Nathan Lim Innosabah Securities Sdn Bhd Kota Kinabalu, Sabah, Malaysia Tele : +60 (88) 234 090 ext 6615 Fax : +60 (88) 241 992 mailto:nathan.L@innosabah.com.my http://www.innosabah.com.my __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 4-Dec-1998 2:58:58-GMT,1898;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA08882 for ; Thu, 3 Dec 1998 19:58:57 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA31229; Thu, 3 Dec 1998 20:48:58 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 3 Dec 1998 20:47:32 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA31132; Thu, 3 Dec 1998 20:47:31 -0600 Message-ID: <01BE1F73.24BCB6C0@irsb.innosabah.com.my> From: Nathan Lim To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] [pdf] html to pdf to rtf converter Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 10:44:59 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Anyone know where I can get a batch plug-in or macro that can batch convert HTML files to PDF then to RTF? Nathan Lim Innosabah Securities Sdn Bhd Kota Kinabalu, Sabah, Malaysia Tele : +60 (88) 234 090 ext 6615 Fax : +60 (88) 241 992 mailto:nathan.L@innosabah.com.my http://www.innosabah.com.my __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 4-Dec-1998 3:53:07-GMT,3174;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA09990 for ; Thu, 3 Dec 1998 20:53:06 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA01210; Thu, 3 Dec 1998 21:30:08 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 3 Dec 1998 21:28:35 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA01064; Thu, 3 Dec 1998 21:28:33 -0600 Message-ID: <90001230CD9ED111B47F00608CF26D1E1573CD@ARTHUR> From: Karl De Abrew To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] [pdf] HTML to PDF to RTF converter Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 14:28:25 +1100 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1459.44) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Hi Nathan, You could try automating this by loading the HTML files into MS Word 97 and printing to PDF. I believe that you could side-step your requirement to produce RTF from PDF by performing a save as in MS-Word from HTML to RTF. And it would probably result in considerable improvements in the quality of layout. You may like to visit our code cuts pages at http://www.roundtable.com.au/ (click plugins and then code cuts in the left frame) and examine the "How to print all of the Word files in one folder" VBA sample. I hope this helps. kind regards, Karl De Abrew karl@roundtable.com.au A Round Table Solution - PlanetPDF coming soon... http://www.roundtable.com.au/ -----Original Message----- From: Nathan Lim [mailto:nathan.L@innosabah.com.my] Sent: Friday, December 04, 1998 1:29 PM To: 'pdf' Subject: [PDF] [pdf] HTML to PDF to RTF converter < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Anyone know where I can get a batch plug-in or macro that can batch convert HTML files to PDF then to RTF? Nathan Lim Innosabah Securities Sdn Bhd Kota Kinabalu, Sabah, Malaysia Tele : +60 (88) 234 090 ext 6615 Fax : +60 (88) 241 992 mailto:nathan.L@innosabah.com.my http://www.innosabah.com.my __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 4-Dec-1998 4:59:55-GMT,3153;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA11405 for ; Thu, 3 Dec 1998 21:59:54 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA05885; Thu, 3 Dec 1998 22:53:33 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 3 Dec 1998 22:51:50 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA05751; Thu, 3 Dec 1998 22:51:48 -0600 X-ROUTED: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 00:52:34 -0500 Message-ID: <36676A87.48FE38B7@eisolutions.com> Date: Thu, 03 Dec 1998 23:52:23 -0500 From: Michael Stearne X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] [pdf] HTML to PDF to RTF converter References: <01BE1F70.ED40D5C0@irsb.innosabah.com.my> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > There is a program called HTMLDOC that will convert HTML to PDF. With the proper HTML you can create PDFs with HTMLDOC that look as good as documents created in Word, I can't recommend HTMLDOC more. This is free software and is OpenSource found at http://www.easysw.com/~mike/htmldoc . From that point you can use the Roundtable plug-in to go to RTF that is mentioned by Karl in his post. But it would seem to me that you might be better off taking PDF out of the loop and trying to go from HTML to RTF. There is a program ( http://www.cena.dgac.fr/~sagnier/htm2rtf.htm ) that might be of help to you. I've just found this and have never used it. Good Luck, Michael Stearne Nathan Lim wrote: > < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > > Anyone know where I can get a batch plug-in or macro that can batch convert HTML files to PDF then to RTF? > > Nathan Lim > Innosabah Securities Sdn Bhd > Kota Kinabalu, Sabah, Malaysia > Tele : +60 (88) 234 090 ext 6615 > Fax : +60 (88) 241 992 > mailto:nathan.L@innosabah.com.my > http://www.innosabah.com.my > > __________________________________________________________________ > > PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" > > @ PDF Showcase: > __________________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 4-Dec-1998 12:50:30-GMT,2987;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA20654 for ; Fri, 4 Dec 1998 05:50:28 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA28102; Fri, 4 Dec 1998 06:46:26 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 4 Dec 1998 06:43:52 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA27925; Fri, 4 Dec 1998 06:43:51 -0600 Message-ID: <00EF773582D6D111939D00A0C9A92F64027C7A87@il0015exch003u.ih.lucent.com> From: "Farrell, Kevin (Kevin)" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] [pdf] html to pdf to rtf converter Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 06:43:47 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > If you have Exchange loaded, then you have a postscript driver loaded as well. Simply open the HTML page, print to pdf via pdfwriter. In Exchange, you now have a PDF. Using a plugin called Gemini you can export the text to RTF. Also, I believe that Aerial does this as well. Hope this helps. _____________________________________ Kevin Farrell Lucent Technologies (EMNS) *Voice (630) 224-6890 *Pager (630) 680-6367 -----Original Message----- From: Nathan Lim [mailto:nathan.L@innosabah.com.my] Sent: Thursday, December 03, 1998 8:45 PM To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' Subject: [PDF] [pdf] html to pdf to rtf converter *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Anyone know where I can get a batch plug-in or macro that can batch convert HTML files to PDF then to RTF? Nathan Lim Innosabah Securities Sdn Bhd Kota Kinabalu, Sabah, Malaysia Tele : +60 (88) 234 090 ext 6615 Fax : +60 (88) 241 992 mailto:nathan.L@innosabah.com.my http://www.innosabah.com.my __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 4-Dec-1998 13:36:12-GMT,3346;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA21462 for ; Fri, 4 Dec 1998 06:36:11 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA30967; Fri, 4 Dec 1998 07:32:52 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 4 Dec 1998 07:31:29 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA30840; Fri, 4 Dec 1998 07:31:27 -0600 Message-Id: <9812049127.AA912778259@pens3646.cnet.navy.mil> X-Mailer: ccMail Link to SMTP R8.20.00.25 Date: Fri, 04 Dec 1998 07:26:04 -0600 From: "DEAN MCCALLUM" To: Subject: Re[2]: [PDF] Why still 2.1 Compatibility / compression Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: "cc:Mail Note Part" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Hi: I believe what was "lost" here is the issue of how many colors the original image file started with that you are going to convert. 4-bit color limits you to 16 colors, 8-bit color limits you to 256. If the color depth of image being "PDF'd" fit within the format limitations, data won't be lost. Otherwise I am not sure what will happen. It's been my experience that .BMP files won't compress at all if the file contains more than 256 colors. (It uses run length encoding (RLE) compression.) Dean McCallum ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: RE: [PDF] Why still 2.1 Compatibility / compression Author: at internet Date: 12/3/98 10:18 PM < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > > In Lesson 13 of AA CIB the following is stated: > "LZW, ZIP. CCITT, and Run length are lossless compression > methods, meaning > no data is removed from the image. LZW 4-bit, LZW 8-bit, ZIP > 4-bit, ZIP > 8-bit and JPEG are lossy, meaning data is removed from the image." That statement is wrong, I think. ZIP 8 bit is not lossy at all. ZIP 4 bit is, because the colour channels are reduced to 4 bits. Aandi __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 4-Dec-1998 14:07:25-GMT,1814;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA22062 for ; Fri, 4 Dec 1998 07:07:23 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA00396; Fri, 4 Dec 1998 08:03:56 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 4 Dec 1998 08:01:51 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA00221; Fri, 4 Dec 1998 08:01:49 -0600 From: Karen_L_Mibus@keybank.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: KEYCORP To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com, dsites@adobe.com Message-ID: <852566D0.004CAB4D.00@keybank.com> Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 09:00:30 -0500 Subject: [PDF] PDF Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Dick Sites, thank you very much for your extensive findings on the use of PDF by government and federal courts. I've forwarded your e-mail to our Electronic Fulfillment and Compliance departments. However, can you please provide me with your title at Adobe? Thanks, again! --Karen __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 4-Dec-1998 14:20:40-GMT,11578;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA22331 for ; Fri, 4 Dec 1998 07:20:39 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA01627; Fri, 4 Dec 1998 08:20:38 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 4 Dec 1998 08:17:23 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA01331; Fri, 4 Dec 1998 08:17:21 -0600 Message-ID: <02f701be1f90$e2361760$8201a8c0@fa3> From: "G. Wm. Bailey" To: Subject: Re: [PDFdev] Request for Posting Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 09:17:52 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_02F4_01BE1F66.F842B880" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdfdev@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdfdev@lists.pdfzone.com Home: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Email Lists: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html List Archive: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdfdev/ Help: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *Sponsor/Advt Opportunities*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_02F4_01BE1F66.F842B880 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Aandi-- Thanks for responding; even though your news was bad, it was appreciated. As I said in the text, Redwing does not work and the technicians at Datawatch admit it. I have tried Omnipage and Textbridge, and they do not hold the location. Omnipage has a grid (table) option which works on one page, but if the next page is slightly higher or lower, it does not hold. Since I have to process 50-100 pages per week, it is a bit tedious. Perhaps you could suggest a better decision? I am certainly open to suggestion. Thanks, Bill Bailey -----Original Message----- From: Aandi Inston To: pdfdev@lists.pdfzone.com Date: Friday, December 04, 1998 4:10 AM Subject: RE: [PDFdev] Request for Posting >Email Lists: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html >List Archive: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdfdev/ >Help: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com >*Sponsor/Advt Opportunities*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com > > > > >Surely, what you ask for is impossible. ASCII text cannot express precise >layouts or fonts. You may have very simple files that ASCII *could* >represent, but in the general case, PDF files are much richer than that. >Acrobat does not know that your files are simple, and treat them in >a special "text only" way. > >The text-only driver does not work with Acrobat, and nor can any similar >driver be used. PDF is a graphical format, and when printing to a >non-PostScript >printer you get a raster image of the page. This causes the text-only driver >to choke. So, you can't fix it; it isn't broken. > >I believe you have made a mistake in assuming PDF is suitable for >post-processing. >By and large it is not. But you may find that the "Redwing" tool helps if >you want precise layouts (www.bcl-computers.com). Nevertheless, most >problems >like these result from a bad decision to use PDF in the first place. > >Or, for simple text extraction visit http://access.adobe.com/ > >For >-----Original Message----- > >I seek your help to find a print driver or intercept that takes the print >output from Acrobat and (while keeping the exact locations on the page) >converts to ASCII text in a file. If the file is then viewed or printed it >should look exactly like the image of the document in PDF. > >This is necessary for later processing by Monarch which requires locational >regularity. Redwing is not helpful. The end result is a .dbf file (and >other, more direct, means have not been successful, though I am open to >suggestion). >The standard way to produce a file that looks like the printed page with >other DOS programs is to print to the "generic text only on file" printer >driver in Windows. 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YXJ0eHJlZg0xNzMNJSVFT0YN ------=_NextPart_000_02F4_01BE1F66.F842B880-- ____________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ __________________________________________________________________ 4-Dec-1998 16:41:41-GMT,2187;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA25696 for ; Fri, 4 Dec 1998 09:41:24 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA13280; Fri, 4 Dec 1998 10:37:38 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 4 Dec 1998 10:35:33 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA13095; Fri, 4 Dec 1998 10:35:32 -0600 Message-ID: <00c401be1fa3$e109d1c0$380d9fcf@default> From: "Jim Ripley" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] Frame to PDF Hyperlinks Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 08:33:05 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2120.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2120.0 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > I don't mean to clutter the band width, but want to express appreciation to all who provide assistance. I especially appreciate the patience with which novices are treated. The expertise shared is invaluable. My hair may be gray but I still have a "gee whiz" feeling when Nathan queries from Malaysia and Karl responds from Melbourne and Aandi from the UK. Thank you one and all. Jim Ripley 50 Rancho del Sol Camino, California 95709 USA Vox 530.644.8078 Fax 530.644.6932 jripley@ns.net __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 4-Dec-1998 18:05:42-GMT,1964;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA28313 for ; Fri, 4 Dec 1998 11:05:36 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA19706; Fri, 4 Dec 1998 11:56:33 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 4 Dec 1998 11:54:16 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA19549; Fri, 4 Dec 1998 11:54:13 -0600 From: Karen_L_Mibus@keybank.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: KEYCORP To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com, steve@rdpslides.com Message-ID: <852566D0.004D8A0B.00@keybank.com> Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 12:53:39 -0500 Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF as a Native filetype in Browsers Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Steve wrote: But I'll bet the lawyers would also object strenuously to the lack of control over the document's presentation via HTML? Sounds like they want to have their cake and eat it too. Lawyers want to have their cake, eat it, and make sure they get more cake delivered ASAP. Yes, they (we) want control over the format and fast, easy, guaranteed delivery! ;) --Karen __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 4-Dec-1998 19:15:42-GMT,5165;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA00174 for ; Fri, 4 Dec 1998 12:15:41 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA25708; Fri, 4 Dec 1998 13:11:23 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 4 Dec 1998 13:07:40 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA25430; Fri, 4 Dec 1998 13:07:38 -0600 From: "pete clark" To: Subject: [PDF] downloading pages one at a time Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 14:06:10 -0500 Message-ID: <000501be1fb9$278522c0$4985d4d1@deviation> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0006_01BE1F8F.3EB6BBE0" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Importance: Normal X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: 00000000CA58DB9CC1A8B211B1567ABBF968523364742100 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01BE1F8F.3EB6BBE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm sure this has been addressed before but I am new to this list. I know that PDF files can be displayed as they download a page at a time. I have a PDF online and I does not seem to do so. The file has been optimized and I know I am using a browser that can do this with the latest plug-ins, win98 ie4 acrobat exchange 3.01. On the Adobe site I read that Byteserving requires a plug-in on the server side. Is this my problem?? 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With page-at-a-time downloading (byte-serving), a Web server that is serving PDF content sends only the requested page of information to the user, not the entire PDF document. As an online reader of the PDF document (viewing in the Web browser window), you do not have to do anything to make this happen; it is communicated in the background between the Acrobat viewer and the Web server using the "Byte Range Retrieval Extension to HTTP" protocol. However, if the user would like the entire PDF document to continue downloading in the background while they view the first page of requested information, they (or the Network Administrator) would select the "Allow Background Download of Entire File" option in General Preferences of the Acrobat Reader. For more information check out: http://www.adobe.com/prodindex/acrobat/byteserve.html Best Regards, Marc >I'm sure this has been addressed before but I am new to this list. > >I know that PDF files can be displayed as they download a page at a time. I >have a PDF online and I does not seem to do so. The file has been optimized >and I know I am using a browser that can do this with the latest plug-ins, >win98 ie4 acrobat exchange 3.01. > >On the Adobe site I read that Byteserving requires a plug-in on the server >side. Is this my problem?? > >Thanks in advance, >Pete >pete@noramdigitalmedia.com Adobe Systems, Inc. 801 North 34th St. Seattle, WA 98103-8882 Tel: 206.675.7925 Fax:206.675.6808 Look for answers to the top Acrobat Issues at: http://www.adobe.com/supportservice/custsupport/SOLUTIONS/topissuesac.htm __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 4-Dec-1998 20:55:38-GMT,4457;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA03007 for ; Fri, 4 Dec 1998 13:55:21 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA01378; Fri, 4 Dec 1998 14:51:38 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 4 Dec 1998 14:48:49 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA01120; Fri, 4 Dec 1998 14:48:47 -0600 Message-ID: <01BE1F9C.AE7D9EA0.David_Tamburello@mazer.com> From: Dave Tamburello To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] downloading pages one at a time Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 15:42:20 -0800 Organization: Mazer Corporation X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Marc has given you part of the story anyway. Check out http://www.adobe.com/prodindex/acrobat/byteserve.html#webserve for information on which servers have built-in support for byteserving and links to support files for those servers that don't. Also, you should be aware the Reader 3.01 had some problems with byteserving which have (according to Adobe) been fixed in the latest release, Reader 3.02. You can get Reader 3.02 at http://www.adobe.com/prodindex/acrobat/readstep.html. Let me know if you have any more questions... David M. Tamburello Mazer ePublishing Grand Rapids, MI David_Tamburello@mazer.com (616) 285-3900 -----Original Message----- From: Marc Madenwald [SMTP:mmadenwa@Adobe.COM] Sent: Friday, December 04, 1998 12:17 PM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] downloading pages one at a time < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > What is Byteserving (page-at-a-time downloading)? With page-at-a-time downloading (byte-serving), a Web server that is serving PDF content sends only the requested page of information to the user, not the entire PDF document. As an online reader of the PDF document (viewing in the Web browser window), you do not have to do anything to make this happen; it is communicated in the background between the Acrobat viewer and the Web server using the "Byte Range Retrieval Extension to HTTP" protocol. However, if the user would like the entire PDF document to continue downloading in the background while they view the first page of requested information, they (or the Network Administrator) would select the "Allow Background Download of Entire File" option in General Preferences of the Acrobat Reader. For more information check out: http://www.adobe.com/prodindex/acrobat/byteserve.html Best Regards, Marc >I'm sure this has been addressed before but I am new to this list. > >I know that PDF files can be displayed as they download a page at a time. I >have a PDF online and I does not seem to do so. The file has been optimized >and I know I am using a browser that can do this with the latest plug-ins, >win98 ie4 acrobat exchange 3.01. > >On the Adobe site I read that Byteserving requires a plug-in on the server >side. Is this my problem?? > >Thanks in advance, >Pete >pete@noramdigitalmedia.com Adobe Systems, Inc. 801 North 34th St. Seattle, WA 98103-8882 Tel: 206.675.7925 Fax:206.675.6808 Look for answers to the top Acrobat Issues at: http://www.adobe.com/supportservice/custsupport/SOLUTIONS/topissuesac.htm __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 4-Dec-1998 23:58:47-GMT,2243;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA08152 for ; Fri, 4 Dec 1998 16:58:42 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA15565; Fri, 4 Dec 1998 17:53:58 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 4 Dec 1998 17:50:51 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA15332; Fri, 4 Dec 1998 17:50:50 -0600 Message-ID: <36687554.6F5D2C13@concentric.net> Date: Fri, 04 Dec 1998 18:50:44 -0500 From: Jim Altieri X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com, pdf-digest@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Automating Catalog Index Builds Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > I'd like to automate the installation of PDF's to the LAN. If I do, I'd also like to automate the index builds so the index is rebuilt each time a new or updated document is installed. How would I configure Catalog to rebuild an index every 24 hours. I know how to make the settings, but it seems that if I close Catalog, I have to "re-activate" the settings when I reopen it by pressing the Start button. Will I need to leave Catalog running constantly to ensure that the index is rebuilt each night? Is there a command line I can use from a batch file to activate it to build a certain index? Thanks, Jim Altieri __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 5-Dec-1998 4:01:33-GMT,1772;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA13396 for ; Fri, 4 Dec 1998 21:01:32 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA31116; Fri, 4 Dec 1998 21:57:46 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 4 Dec 1998 21:55:50 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA30968; Fri, 4 Dec 1998 21:55:48 -0600 Message-Id: <199812050350.WAA15698@mime4.prodigy.com> X-Mailer: Prodigy Internet GW(v0.9beta) - ae01dm04sc03 From: RTWN75A@prodigy.com (MR ROBERT A RUTLEDGE) Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 22:50:28, -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Scripting button annotations... Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > I am trying to script a button with text onto a PDF page, using Applescript. I can do this with text note annotations, but not with a button. The dictionary does not seem to cover this. Can it be done? thanks, Bob Rutledge -Calif. __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 5-Dec-1998 8:31:14-GMT,3927;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA18737 for ; Sat, 5 Dec 1998 01:31:13 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA13544; Sat, 5 Dec 1998 02:26:27 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 5 Dec 1998 02:24:35 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA13456; Sat, 5 Dec 1998 02:24:33 -0600 X-Sender: conrad+ideograf@pop3.demon.co.uk Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 5 Dec 1998 08:04:28 +0000 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Conrad Taylor Subject: RE: [PDF] Why still 2.1 Compatibility / compression Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Aandi Inston wrote: > > In Lesson 13 of AA CIB the following is stated: > > "LZW, ZIP. CCITT, and Run length are lossless compression > > methods, meaning no data is removed from the image. > > LZW 4-bit, LZW 8-bit, ZIP 4-bit, ZIP 8-bit and JPEG > > are lossy, meaning data is removed from the image." > > That statement is wrong, I think. ZIP 8 bit is not > lossy at all. ZIP 4 bit is, because the colour channels > are reduced to 4 bits. LZW 8 bit and ZIP 8 bit would indeed be lossy if one's starting point were a 24-bit colour image. The results of the colour reduction could be quite painful. That is why I too would be grateful for a better understanding of how Distiller 3.02 decides, when allowed to apply automatic ZIP/JPEG compression to colour images, which images should be compressed via ZIP and which via JPEG. A well-done algorithm would be based on an analysis of the pixel-to-pixel edge contrasts in the images. A completely continuous tone image without too much edge detail -- a photograph, for instance -- is an obvious candidate for JPEG compression. Line art and screen dumps should be compressed as LZW or ZIP to avoid the horrid artifacts which JPEG would introduce around sharp edge detail; and such images would compress better by LZW or ZIP "substitutional" (lookup-dictionary-based) methods. However, the Distiller algorithm for auto compression can be fooled, and can't be trusted to make the right decision, IMHO. The documents I'm working on at the moment include screen dumps of multimedia applications which have photo- like content in a screen setting. No way do I want them JPEGed. But how to make sure? Adobe themselves get it wrong: the PageMill 3.0 for Windows PDF version of the manual has unreadable screen-dumps. So any information about how the auto feature works, and means of making dead sure one gets 24-bit LZW or ZIP compression of colour images, would be much appreciated. Conrad ********************************************************************* Conrad Taylor > Information design & electronic publishing consultant > MAIL: conrad@ideograf.demon.co.uk > WEB: http://www.ideography.co.uk Secretary (and Deputy Chair) of the Information Design Association. _____________________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 5-Dec-1998 11:05:46-GMT,3460;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA21564 for ; Sat, 5 Dec 1998 04:05:45 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA21081; Sat, 5 Dec 1998 05:02:25 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 5 Dec 1998 05:00:53 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA20977; Sat, 5 Dec 1998 05:00:51 -0600 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Why still 2.1 Compatibility / compression Date: Sat, 5 Dec 1998 10:50:35 -0000 Message-ID: <002b01be203e$7cf14380$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > > > In Lesson 13 of AA CIB the following is stated: > > > "LZW, ZIP. CCITT, and Run length are lossless compression > > > methods, meaning no data is removed from the image. > > > LZW 4-bit, LZW 8-bit, ZIP 4-bit, ZIP 8-bit and JPEG > > > are lossy, meaning data is removed from the image." > > > > That statement is wrong, I think. ZIP 8 bit is not > > lossy at all. ZIP 4 bit is, because the colour channels > > are reduced to 4 bits. > > LZW 8 bit and ZIP 8 bit would indeed be lossy if one's starting > point were a 24-bit colour image. The results of the colour > reduction could be quite painful. No, that statement is wrong. The numbers refer to bits PER PIXEL. So a 24-bit image is already 8 bit as this is counted. ZIP 4 bit would reduce each pixel to 4 bit, reducing a 24-bit image to 12 bits. Note that when reducing to 4 bit, this just drops the precision in the colours. So, suppose you had a colour gradient that ran from 0 to 255 (0,1,2,...,254,255). After reducing to 4 bit This would now be 0,0,0,0,...16,16,16,16,....32,32,32.... and so on. The colour palette is absolutely fixed, with the same 4096 colours. This is different from the usual process of reduction from 24 bit to 8 bit (which Acrobat does NOT do), where the image is reduced to 256 *selected* colours, and is accompanied by a palette. So, a 24-bit image with just 100 colours in it could be converted to 8-bit with no data loss. But probably not to 3 x 4-bit. Let me repeat: ZIP 8 bit is not lossy at all. Believe it. There is no point, none at all, in switching compression off completely, unless you have a sideline in selling hard disks. Aandi __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 7-Dec-1998 14:32:06-GMT,1924;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA18439 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 1998 07:32:05 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA31320; Mon, 7 Dec 1998 08:27:31 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 7 Dec 1998 08:20:14 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA30218; Mon, 7 Dec 1998 08:20:05 -0600 X-Sender: conniep@mail.lasertechcolor.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: "Connie Posey" Subject: [PDF] PDF Import for Quark Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 08:11:57 -0600 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Approx. 2 months ago, I tried an import plug-in for quark. It imported a PDF directly into quark without having to save as eps file. The only problem was that the PDF was imported as a 72 dpi RGB image. Has anyone found an update/upgrade to this plug-in or heard of anything that would import a PDF at the resolution that it has been created? Connie Posey __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 7-Dec-1998 16:46:53-GMT,2648;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA21707 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 1998 09:46:52 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA10663; Mon, 7 Dec 1998 10:42:20 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 7 Dec 1998 10:40:06 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA10409; Mon, 7 Dec 1998 10:40:03 -0600 From: Dianne_Duffy@infinium.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: INFINIUM Message-ID: <852566D3.005B4839.00@whqntse1.infinium.com> Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 11:39:42 -0500 Subject: [PDF] Quirk in Catalog Index Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Hi All, I'm new to the list and I was wondering if anyone has seen this problem happen. I used Acrobat Catalog to create an index for several of our publications. The catalog is set to Optimize for CD-ROM. All other defaults are left as is. Next, I open the publication in Reader. Generally, when I use the search command, I can readily find information though all the indexed pdf files. Occasionally, the index picks up words not listed in the search window. For example, I want to search on the word "T4" with word stemming turned on. The results show highlights to words: 1. T4 2. not T4 but several words after T4 3. words on the lines after the word T4 In other searches, it will find the word T4 in later in the publication, but it doesn't pick it up under the Table of Contents. Just seems weird to me. Do I have something set incorrectly? Any advice? I would check the Adobe site but I can't reach it past our firewall. Something to do with their web site and frame relay transmission. Thanks! Dianne Duffy Developer of Publishing Systems Infinium Software, Inc. __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 7-Dec-1998 16:49:00-GMT,5073;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA21797 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 1998 09:48:54 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA11109; Mon, 7 Dec 1998 10:47:44 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 7 Dec 1998 10:46:39 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA10985; Mon, 7 Dec 1998 10:46:38 -0600 From: sgililland@nexstar.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: NEXSTAR To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <872566D3.005C3A40.00@pigeon.nexstar.com> Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 08:46:29 -0800 Subject: Re: [PDF] [pdf] batch document info Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/mixed; Boundary="0__=gxDHTKeW2BRd30fmnf0LdFj2L5fWPHK8mDIuOK0uFyBvCJ1uI1O74KFV" Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > --0__=gxDHTKeW2BRd30fmnf0LdFj2L5fWPHK8mDIuOK0uFyBvCJ1uI1O74KFV Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline We use cpInfoExtractor (www.win.net/cessnapub), free last time I looked, which allows you to batch extract info into a spreadsheet. Typically, we extract full path, title, subject, author and keywords. We complete the spreadsheet, save as a .csv file, and then, using Compose, you can batch populate the property fields. 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If the plug-in works the way most PDF plug-ins do in other apps, you'll have an EPS of the page you chose from the PDF. The EPS will likely have a preview image of some sort, and that might possibly be 72dpi RGB. Have you tried printing to PostScript to see what happens? > >Approx. 2 months ago, I tried an import plug-in for quark. It imported a >PDF directly into quark without having to save as eps file. The only >problem was that the PDF was imported as a 72 dpi RGB image. Has anyone >found an update/upgrade to this plug-in or heard of anything that would >import a PDF at the resolution that it has been created? > >Connie Posey > Steve Rindsberg/Prez RDP http://www.rdpslides.com __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 7-Dec-1998 19:18:05-GMT,2417;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA25988 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 1998 12:16:46 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA23836; Mon, 7 Dec 1998 13:14:39 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 7 Dec 1998 13:13:15 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA23616; Mon, 7 Dec 1998 13:13:13 -0600 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19981207140149.0085bb50@pop.iglou.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 11:04:50 -0800 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Todd Ruston Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF Import for Quark Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > At 2:01 PM -0500 12/7/98, Steve Rindsberg wrote: > < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > > How have you determined that this is a 72dpi RGB image? If the plug-in > works the way most PDF plug-ins do in other apps, you'll have an EPS of the > page you chose from the PDF. The EPS will likely have a preview image of > some sort, and that might possibly be 72dpi RGB. > > Have you tried printing to PostScript to see what happens? Quark's PDF XTension merely imports a screen preview of the PDF at this point, which is useless for high-resolution output. -- Todd Ruston | mailto:truston@libpubinc.com Computer Services Manager | Voice: 323.871.1225 x 3028 Liberation Publications, Inc. | Fax: 323.467.0173 __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 7-Dec-1998 20:57:54-GMT,1657;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA28649 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 1998 13:57:53 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA00304; Mon, 7 Dec 1998 14:53:20 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 7 Dec 1998 14:51:29 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA32751; Mon, 7 Dec 1998 14:51:27 -0600 Message-ID: <366C31E7.B619465A@dwsd.org> Date: Mon, 07 Dec 1998 14:52:07 -0500 From: "James Balogh" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.07 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "pdf@lists.emrg.com" Subject: [PDF] Envoy conversion Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Are there any programs out there to convert a Envoy file into a PDF? __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 7-Dec-1998 21:18:39-GMT,9097;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA29264 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 1998 14:18:38 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA02421; Mon, 7 Dec 1998 15:15:50 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 7 Dec 1998 15:14:27 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA02246; Mon, 7 Dec 1998 15:14:25 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.2.32.19981207131703.019f5e60@mail-345> X-Sender: dsites@mail-345 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.2 (32) Date: Mon, 07 Dec 1998 13:17:03 -0800 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: "Richard L. Sites" Subject: RE: [PDF] Why still 2.1 Compatibility / compression Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > I was misinformed in my previous posting on 8-bit and 4-bit compression (so were my internal reviewers); I was also underinformed on a couple of other points. I've added the corrections as a section on Distiller. Thanks to Aandi and the others for pointing out the mistakes. My apologies. /dick ---------- Compression and Resampling options in PDF files, Revised Dick Sites Adobe Systems, Inc. December, 1998 There are a number of compression options in PDF. Some have always been in the PDF language, and one was added in PDF 1.2/Acrobat 3.0. Compression techniques divide into those that are lossless and those that are lossy. In addition, there are many resampling options in programs that generate PDF images. COMPRESSION =========== As the names imply, a lossless compression technique returns exactly the original bits upon decompression, while a lossy technique introduces noise or differences that can range from minor to quite visible. It is always safe to use a LOSSLESS compression technique. It NEVER makes sense to prohibit compression outright; it does make sense in some environments to prohibit lossy or very lossy compression. Here are the PDF language compression techniques (using their common names), listed with better ones first: PDF-1.2 PDF-1.1 PDF-1.0 Acrobat Acrobat Acrobat ======= Images ===== text/ Lossless 3.x 2.x 1.x Color Grayscale B&W graphics ---------- ------ ------ ------- ------ ------ ------ ----- Flate/Zip* Y Y Y Y** Y LZW* Y Y Y Y Y Y** Y CCITT Fax Group 4 Y Y Y Y CCITT Fax Group 3 Y Y Y Y Run Length Y Y Y Y Lossy ---------- Zip 8/4-bit Y Y Y LZW 8/4-bit Y Y Y Y Y JPEG*** Y Y Y Y Y * Zip is the default lossless compression for Acrobat 3.x; LZW for 3.x. ** Not recommended for bitonal images. CCITT Group 4 usually gives better compression. *** You can choose the degree of noise introduced -- JPEG Low means low compression = high quality. In many environments, high-quality JPEG is perfectly acceptable. The only way to tell is to experiment. Flate/Zip (one technique with two names) was new in Acrobat 3.0; if you use it you usually get smaller files than with Acrobat 2.1's LZW, but someone with Acrobat 2.1 cannot read your file. Adobe generally recommends Flate/Zip for lossless compression of everything except bitonal images. (If you must actively support a large user population with Acrobat 2.1 or earlier, use LZW instead.) CCITT Group 4 is best for bitonal images. Adobe generally recommends CCITT Group 4 for lossless compression of bitonal images. CCITT Group 3 is an older fax standard that gives less compression than Group 4. Run Length is based on the original Apple Macintosh run length encoding. Because they are simpler, these two had a little to recommend them when CPUs were the speed of 286 or 68000 chips. Today they are not recommended. JPEG is used worldwide in digital television and digital cameras and on the Web. At medium or low quality (medium or high compression) it can look very grainy. At high quality it can be unnoticeable. JPEG is intended for use on pictures of the real world; it often introduces noticeable artifacts in synthetic pictures, such as screen shots. RESAMPLING ========== The resampling options in PDFWriter and Distiller and Photoshop work only on images (not text or graphics). They allow you to convert, say, a 300 DPI image to 72 DPI. A 300 DPI image has about 16 times as many pixels as a 72 DPI image, so resampling can have a noticeable effect on file size. However, after compression using one of the recommended techniques above, the difference in file size might not be as dramatic. (Resampling could also be used to convert a 72 DPI image to 300 DPI, but this can't make the image better; all it does is make the file bigger -- don't do it.) Resampling is lossy. In fact, it can be VERY lossy if you change the DPI by more than about a factor of 2. On the other hand, there is little point in keeping a 2400 DPI image in a PDF file if it will never be viewed or printed at a resolution above 300 DPI. A good rule of thumb is to consider resampling to twice the resolution you expect to use for printing or viewing. This suggests that going below about 150 DPI will give poor- quality results even on 72-DPI VGA monitors. Two different techniques are used for resampling. Downsampling averages the pixels of the original to get each pixel of the final result. Subsampling just picks ONE of the pixels of the original to get each pixel of the final result. Subsampling is an inferior technique. Because it is simpler, it had a little to recommend it when CPUs were the speed of 286 or 68000 chips. Today it is NOT recommended. [Subsampling an image is the technique of choice for making thin lines and text disappear in screen shots, scanner output, and Type 3 fonts. You don't want it. Don't use it.] Bicubic downsampling, where available, is even better than plain downsampling -- it uses cubic curves instead of straight lines to interpolate the pixels in the X and Y directions. COLOR DEPTH =========== A third way to reduce the size of images is available in Photoshop and other image products -- color depth reduction. For example, you can convert 8-bit grayscale to 4-bit, or 24-bit color images to 8-bit, reducing the space needed by a factor of two or three. Color depth reduction is lossy, but in some images the fine detail of color shading is not needed. DISTILLER NOTES =============== The Zip/LZW (8 bit) and (4 bit) options in Distiller are actually combinations of two techniques. [An earlier version of this note described them incorrectly.] They first do a potentially-lossy reduction of the color depth of an image to 8 or 4 bits respectively PER COMPONENT (i.e. 4 bit means 4-bit gray, 12-bit RGB, and 16-bit CMYK), then do a lossless Zip or LZW compression. The 8-bit color depth reduction is lossy only if you have a PostScript level 2 file with 12-bit color components; the 4-bit only if you have 12- or 8-bit components. In Distiller, downsampling an image or converting color space RGB<->CMYK can trigger increasing its color depth (for example, downsampling a black- and-white image can produce an anti-aliased gray image). This is done before any color depth reduction above. The Distiller Automatic choice between Zip/LZW and JPEG is slightly complex and subject to future refinement. The goal is to select an appropriate compression technique for each image. JPEG is used if the image is downsampled by more than 2:1, or if the average and standard deviation of the differences between adjacent pixels are less than some empirical threshold (indicating smooth color transitions). If you don't like the Automatic choice, use Manual. Distiller will not JPEG compress an indexed-color image or one with fewer than 256 distinct color values; it will use Zip/LZW instead. Using compression, resampling, and color depth reduction, you can usually achieve a good balance between image quality and file size. __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 7-Dec-1998 21:39:26-GMT,1950;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA29809 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 1998 14:39:08 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA04175; Mon, 7 Dec 1998 15:34:57 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 7 Dec 1998 15:33:38 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA04029; Mon, 7 Dec 1998 15:33:37 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19981207164444.0085e7e0@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Mon, 07 Dec 1998 16:44:44 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] Envoy conversion In-Reply-To: <366C31E7.B619465A@dwsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > >Are there any programs out there to convert a Envoy file into a PDF? > Print from the Envoy viewer to: - PDFWriter - PS/Distiller Ass't and Distill the result Probably won't produce optimal PDFs, and you'll likely lose any links and such. Steve Rindsberg/Prez RDP http://www.rdpslides.com __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 7-Dec-1998 21:39:28-GMT,2070;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA29818 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 1998 14:39:26 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA04358; Mon, 7 Dec 1998 15:36:32 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 7 Dec 1998 15:35:28 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA04241; Mon, 7 Dec 1998 15:35:25 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19981207164631.0085d770@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Mon, 07 Dec 1998 16:46:31 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF Import for Quark In-Reply-To: References: <3.0.5.32.19981207140149.0085bb50@pop.iglou.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > >Quark's PDF XTension merely imports a screen preview of the PDF at this >point, which is useless for high-resolution output. > You're kidding! Really? Tsk. What a complete waste of disk space. I hope they don't charge for this wonder. Steve Rindsberg/Prez RDP http://www.rdpslides.com __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 7-Dec-1998 21:41:31-GMT,2268;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA29909 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 1998 14:41:25 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA04754; Mon, 7 Dec 1998 15:39:25 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 7 Dec 1998 15:38:18 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA04593; Mon, 7 Dec 1998 15:38:16 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19981207164922.00848100@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Mon, 07 Dec 1998 16:49:22 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF Import for Quark In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > >Approx. 2 months ago, I tried an import plug-in for quark. It imported a >PDF directly into quark without having to save as eps file. The only >problem was that the PDF was imported as a 72 dpi RGB image. Has anyone >found an update/upgrade to this plug-in or heard of anything that would >import a PDF at the resolution that it has been created? > Todd's pointed out to me that that's all the Quark extension does. If that's correct, and if you have Exchange, you can download the export PS/EPS plugin from Adobe and use that to produce EPS. Steve Rindsberg/Prez RDP http://www.rdpslides.com __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 7-Dec-1998 21:41:46-GMT,2133;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA29916 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 1998 14:41:45 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA03235; Mon, 7 Dec 1998 15:24:34 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 7 Dec 1998 15:23:18 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA03100; Mon, 7 Dec 1998 15:23:16 -0600 Message-Id: <4.1.19981207162109.00ae8b00@mail.hannah.com> X-Sender: frank@mail.hannah.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Mon, 07 Dec 1998 16:24:23 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Frank Atkinson Subject: [PDF] Attached PDF in Outlook Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > We are mailing an attached PDF file. In Outlook on a WIN98 machine its adding a .dat ( current_file.pdf .dat) after the file name (which already ends in .pdf) and hence it says it doesn't have an application for that file. Works find on my NT4.0 and Win95 machines. Any ideas..... Frank Atkinson www.hannah.com Rotunda Inc/Hannah News Svc www.ohcapcon.com 16 E. Broad St. #200 mailto:frank@hannah.com Columbus, Ohio 43215 ph: 614-228-3113 __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 7-Dec-1998 22:46:35-GMT,1644;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA01669 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 1998 15:46:34 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA10137; Mon, 7 Dec 1998 16:42:46 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 7 Dec 1998 16:40:56 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA09986; Mon, 7 Dec 1998 16:40:54 -0600 From: Cynthia Hsieh Message-Id: <199812072240.OAA18711@pawnee.synopsys.com> Subject: [PDF] acroread? To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: Mon, 7 Dec 98 22:40:41 PST X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > hi, in unix the acroread is a command for acrobat+search and acrobat reader only. is there a way to differenciate these two in the command line? tks, --cindy :) __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 7-Dec-1998 23:04:05-GMT,2646;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA02055 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 1998 16:04:04 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA11917; Mon, 7 Dec 1998 17:01:53 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 7 Dec 1998 17:00:31 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA11788; Mon, 7 Dec 1998 17:00:29 -0600 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19981207164631.0085d770@pop.iglou.com> References: <3.0.5.32.19981207140149.0085bb50@pop.iglou.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 14:55:39 -0800 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Todd Ruston Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF Import for Quark Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > At 4:46 PM -0500 12/7/98, Steve Rindsberg wrote: > < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > > > > >Quark's PDF XTension merely imports a screen preview of the PDF at this > >point, which is useless for high-resolution output. > > > > You're kidding! Really? > > Tsk. What a complete waste of disk space. I hope they don't charge for > this wonder. It's an import/export XTension. Right now, the export portion seems to work (exporting a Quark file as PDF). The import functionality is basically cosmetic, but they say it will eventually work as you'd expect, placing a PDF as any other image file and allowing high-res output. How long it will take to achieve this Holy Grail? No one knows. -- Todd Ruston | mailto:truston@libpubinc.com Computer Services Manager | Voice: 323.871.1225 x 3028 Liberation Publications, Inc. | Fax: 323.467.0173 __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 8-Dec-1998 0:35:07-GMT,2079;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA04339 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 1998 17:35:01 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA17733; Mon, 7 Dec 1998 18:31:21 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 7 Dec 1998 18:29:13 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA17576; Mon, 7 Dec 1998 18:29:06 -0600 Message-ID: <001001be2241$8636a7a0$150d9fcf@default> From: "Jim Ripley" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] Why still 2.1 Compatibility / compression Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 16:26:22 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2120.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2120.0 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Thanks for researching this further. And thanks for finding an engineer to explain it in such simple terms. (TIC) "The Distiller Automatic choice between Zip/LZW and JPEG is slightly complex and subject to future refinement . . . if the average and standard deviation of the differences between adjacent pixels are less than some empirical threshold . . ." :-) __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 8-Dec-1998 1:32:32-GMT,2766;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA05575 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 1998 18:32:31 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA21432; Mon, 7 Dec 1998 19:28:56 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 7 Dec 1998 19:27:33 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA21348; Mon, 7 Dec 1998 19:27:30 -0600 Message-ID: <000c01be224a$19e4c560$68db4ed1@ns3.access1.net> From: "lyrad" To: Subject: [PDF] Submit Button and CGI Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 17:28:45 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > I was hoping someone could help me with some CGI for a Submit button on a .pdf form. >From what I understand, Exchange allows me to create a form (which I have) that can be filled out by a user in Acrobat Reader or Exchange (which it does) and then the data (assumptioning the .fdf file) can be submitted over the Web and collected in a database just like HTML forms (which I do not know how to do). >From Classroom in a Book for Acrobat 3.0, page 202. "In order for a submit button to work properly over the Web, a Common Gateway Interface (CGI) application must be running on a Web server to collect the submitted data." The book goes on giving a URL of http://www.adobe.com/special/acrobat/moreinfo for more information but that address seems to be of no help. I have asked my Web Admin and have e-mailed Adobe but they both produced no viable answers either. I am a little under the gun on this and I would appreciate anyone helping on this project! I do have access to a cgi bin, however, I do not know any Perl. Thanks in advance :) me lyrad@access1.net __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 8-Dec-1998 1:43:18-GMT,2515;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA05825 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 1998 18:43:16 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA22211; Mon, 7 Dec 1998 19:41:44 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 7 Dec 1998 19:40:18 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA22155; Mon, 7 Dec 1998 19:40:16 -0600 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Why still 2.1 Compatibility / compression Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 01:25:19 -0000 Message-ID: <000f01be224b$a10fa040$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <001001be2241$8636a7a0$150d9fcf@default> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > Thanks for researching this further. And thanks for finding > an engineer to > explain it in such simple terms. (TIC) > > "The Distiller Automatic choice between Zip/LZW and JPEG is slightly > complex and subject to future refinement . . . if the average > and standard > deviation of the differences between adjacent pixels are less > than some > empirical threshold . . ." Having had to write an application to detect "screen shots" in a PDF file, I can vouch for the fact that this explanation, and algorithm, are about as simple as you are going to get. I've never been able to explain my algorithm so succinctly. I should settle for "It uses guesswork, and is right most of the time." Aandi __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 8-Dec-1998 1:59:17-GMT,4262;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA06144 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 1998 18:59:15 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA23408; Mon, 7 Dec 1998 19:57:57 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 7 Dec 1998 19:56:43 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA23284; Mon, 7 Dec 1998 19:56:42 -0600 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Submit Button and CGI Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 01:55:49 -0000 Message-ID: <001001be224d$ef874b40$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <000c01be224a$19e4c560$68db4ed1@ns3.access1.net> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > > >From what I understand, Exchange allows me to create a form > (which I have) > that can be filled out by a user in Acrobat Reader or > Exchange (which it > does) and then the data (assumptioning the .fdf file) can be > submitted over > the Web and collected in a database just like HTML forms > (which I do not > know how to do). Unfortunately, this is a broad subject and there isn't really a useful reply that would fit in an e-mail message (like, you just [learn http and cgi concepts, and perl programming], and [write a perl program to do this]). There aren't shortcuts to this knowledge; I'd suggest one of the many books on CGI. Knowledge applicable to HTML forms can be applied to PDF forms, pretty much. An experienced programmer can pick up CGI concepts in a couple of days, but learning Perl is not that simple. (Perl is an easy language for someone with both programming and Unix experience to pick up, but not easy to master.) If you are experienced in some other language like C, and are adept at text parsing, then you might find it easier to write this in C than to learn Perl. You will find that there are "off the shelf" sample CGI programs to accept a form and, typically log the information somewhere or e-mail it. A web search should turn up something like this. But now you arrive at a much more substantial task - to put the info into a database. I don't know if you'll find a sample to do that, and database programming from the CGI environment is not trivial. The program also has to cope with the fact that two people may submit a form at the same time, leading to two copies of itself starting, and without corrupting the database as a result. I don't know if you have a database in mind; bear in mind that systems like Access aren't designed for this kind of job. > I have asked my Web Admin and have e-mailed Adobe but they both > produced no viable answers either. > I am a little under the gun on this and I would appreciate anyone > helping on this project! I do have access to a cgi bin, however, > I do not know any Perl. I don't want to be too discouraging, but it is rather like saying you have to drive to Denver tomorrow; you have access to a car, but just need a few tips since you don't know how to drive. It may seem unreasonable that "just" collecting information from forms and putting it in a database has so many obstacles, but right now that's what we're stuck with. Good luck, though. Aandi __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 8-Dec-1998 2:03:23-GMT,2101;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA06276 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 1998 19:03:22 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA23814; Mon, 7 Dec 1998 20:01:02 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 7 Dec 1998 19:59:54 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA23676; Mon, 7 Dec 1998 19:59:52 -0600 Message-ID: <41038467091DD2118CB60000C0E01DF351D51D@MROCRMNT001> From: "Chapman, Loraine" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] missing distiller Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 11:50:40 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Can anybody tell me what is wrong here? I used to be able to distill (not just postscript/distill later) directly from PageMaker to create a pdf file. For some reason the "Distill" option is greyed out. It is really a huge annoyance but I can't seem to fix it. I have re-installed Acrobat 3 (including Distiller). Loraine *********************** Loraine Chapman Publication Officer, Agrilink Dept Primary Industries Nambour Q Australia Ph: (07) 5441 2211 Fax: (07) 4221 2235 email: chapmal@dpi.qld.gov.au __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 8-Dec-1998 2:03:39-GMT,1853;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA06282 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 1998 19:03:38 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA23703; Mon, 7 Dec 1998 20:00:01 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 7 Dec 1998 19:58:49 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA23487; Mon, 7 Dec 1998 19:58:48 -0600 From: Jose_Lemus@capgroup.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: CG To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <882566D4.0002744C.00@smtplink.capgroup.com> Date: Mon, 7 Dec 1998 16:27:05 -0800 Subject: [PDF] HP/UX Distiller help needed. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Hello, I have been scratching my head for days now not knowing what the following error message means: "Signal 22 received, terminating application." This happens whenever I try to run a shell script to convert many postscript files into PDF. Can anyone help? Thanks in advance, Jose Lemus jol@capgroup.com __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 8-Dec-1998 5:00:10-GMT,3065;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA09839 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 1998 22:00:09 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA02649; Mon, 7 Dec 1998 22:55:28 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 7 Dec 1998 22:53:12 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA02489; Mon, 7 Dec 1998 22:53:07 -0600 Message-ID: <007901be2340$6c15ce00$615137a6@z9m7g8> From: "Mario E. Martinez-Montalvo" To: Subject: [PDF] Web Search Engine for PDF Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 22:50:23 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0076_01BE22FD.23F6CE00" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0076_01BE22FD.23F6CE00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The Search feature of Acrobat Catalog does not work in the Web, as most = of us already know. Does anyone know a good, cheap (free) Search Engine = for PDF in the Web? I downloaded the Personal Library which is free but = I have not set it up yet. Has anybody used it? Is it OK? M.E. Martinez-Montalvo ------=_NextPart_000_0076_01BE22FD.23F6CE00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

The Search feature of Acrobat Catalog does not work = in the=20 Web, as most of us already know. Does anyone know a good, cheap (free) = Search=20 Engine for PDF in the Web? I downloaded the Personal Library which is = free but I=20 have not set it up yet. Has anybody used it? Is it OK?
 
M.E. Martinez-Montalvo
------=_NextPart_000_0076_01BE22FD.23F6CE00-- __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 8-Dec-1998 5:13:47-GMT,5036;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA10109 for ; Mon, 7 Dec 1998 22:13:46 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA03715; Mon, 7 Dec 1998 23:12:28 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 7 Dec 1998 23:11:13 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA03590; Mon, 7 Dec 1998 23:11:11 -0600 Message-ID: <008f01bcea73$1516b6c0$4fd20018@CX648066-A.msnv1.occa.home.com> From: "iiNCorp" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] Web Search Engine for PDF Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 21:16:04 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_008C_01BCEA30.06963B90" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_008C_01BCEA30.06963B90 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable You may look at what other products you may need that have been bundled = with Verity's Search product/engine. It does a pretty darn good job. = It came bundled with Allaire's ColdFusion App server. Or M$ has a pdf Ifilter for M$ Index Server on NT and IIS. All the best, Steve Aylor -----Original Message----- From: Mario E. Martinez-Montalvo To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: Monday, December 07, 1998 8:58 PM Subject: [PDF] Web Search Engine for PDF =20 =20 The Search feature of Acrobat Catalog does not work in the Web, as = most of us already know. Does anyone know a good, cheap (free) Search = Engine for PDF in the Web? I downloaded the Personal Library which is = free but I have not set it up yet. Has anybody used it? Is it OK? =20 M.E. Martinez-Montalvo ------=_NextPart_000_008C_01BCEA30.06963B90 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
You may look at what = other products=20 you may need that have been bundled with Verity's Search = product/engine. =20 It does a pretty darn good job.  It came bundled with Allaire's = ColdFusion=20 App server.
 
Or M$ has a pdf Ifilter for M$ Index = Server on NT=20 and IIS.
 
All the best,
 
Steve Aylor
-----Original = Message-----
From:=20 Mario E. Martinez-Montalvo <martinez_montalvo@yahoo.com>
To:=20 pdf@lists.pdfzone.com <pdf@lists.pdfzone.com>
Date:=20 Monday, December 07, 1998 8:58 PM
Subject: [PDF] Web = Search=20 Engine for PDF

The Search feature of Acrobat Catalog does not = work in the=20 Web, as most of us already know. Does anyone know a good, cheap = (free)=20 Search Engine for PDF in the Web? I downloaded the Personal Library = which is=20 free but I have not set it up yet. Has anybody used it? Is it=20 OK?
 
M.E. = Martinez-Montalvo
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The only solution Adobe could propose was = to wait for the next release :~(=20 Marc V=E9ron BMG ComServ AG PDF-Team Hochbergerstr. 15 Postfach CH - 4002 Basel Telefon: +41 - 639 16 90 Direkt: +41 - 639 12 58 Fax: +41 - 631 53 10 m.veron@baz.ch www.bmgcomserv.ch Das Softwarehaus der Basler Mediengruppe ---------- Von: Dianne_Duffy@infinium.com[SMTP:Dianne_Duffy@infinium.com] Gesendet: Montag, 7. Dezember 1998 17:39 An: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Betreff: [PDF] Quirk in Catalog Index < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- = > Hi All, I'm new to the list and I was wondering if anyone has seen this problem happen. I used Acrobat Catalog to create an index for several of our publications. The catalog is set to Optimize for CD-ROM. All other = defaults are left as is. Next, I open the publication in Reader. Generally, when = I use the search command, I can readily find information though all the indexed pdf files. Occasionally, the index picks up words not listed in = the search window. For example, I want to search on the word "T4" with word stemming turned on. The results show highlights to words: 1. T4 2. not T4 but several words after T4 3. words on the lines after the word T4 In other searches, it will find the word T4 in later in the publication, but it doesn't pick it up under the Table of Contents. Just seems weird to me. Do I have something set incorrectly? Any advice? = I would check the Adobe site but I can't reach it past our firewall. Something to do with their web site and frame relay transmission. Thanks! 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Tue, 8 Dec 1998 05:17:48 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA24026; Tue, 8 Dec 1998 06:11:17 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 8 Dec 1998 06:08:53 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA23873; Tue, 8 Dec 1998 06:08:51 -0600 Message-ID: <366DB1A2.8F72ED12@realworld.com.au> Date: Tue, 08 Dec 1998 23:09:43 +0000 From: Dean Laffan X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "pdf@lists.pdfzone.com" Subject: [PDF] re-setting bookmarks Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Hi all I ahve a 250 page pdf with about 200 bookmarks done by a contractor. He has mistakenly set the view on all of them to fit page instead of fit width. Is there an easy way to do a global re-set ? Preferably just using Exchange. We run 3.1 on Mac and Win. TIA Dean Laffan Real World __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 8-Dec-1998 14:07:46-GMT,4492;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA20449 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 1998 07:07:45 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA31087; Tue, 8 Dec 1998 08:01:58 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 8 Dec 1998 07:58:53 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA30759; Tue, 8 Dec 1998 07:58:50 -0600 Date: 08 Dec 98 07:59:50 -0600 From: Jeff Rochon Subject: RE: [PDF] re-setting bookmarks To: pdf X-Mailer: QuickMail Pro 1.5.3 (Mac) X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-Ascii" Message-ID: <1298997208-4492770@jdtv.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id HAA30755 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Reply to: RE: [PDF] re-setting bookmarks hi dean, a friend of mine wrote a program for me [currently windows only] that does batch bookmarking with pdf files. all you have to do is create one master bookmark page [pdf] and then you can apply that bookmark it to a directory of pdfs. from what i hear it is the only program available that does this. it will replace any current bookmark on those pages with the bookmark from the master. it will do 250 pages in less than 5 minutes. is this something that we should pursue marketing? toss me an email if anyone is interested. i would also like to know what someone would consider a fair price for a program like this. all the best, jeff rochon ========== Dean Laffan wrote: > >< ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > >Hi all > >I ahve a 250 page pdf with about 200 bookmarks done by a contractor. He >has mistakenly set the view on all of them to fit page instead of fit >width. > >Is there an easy way to do a global re-set ? Preferably just using >Exchange. We run 3.1 on Mac and Win. > >TIA > > >Dean Laffan >Real World > > >__________________________________________________________________ > >PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" > >@ PDF Showcase: >__________________________________________________________________ > > >RFC822 header >----------------------------------- > > Return-Path: > Received: from everglades.binc.net (208.155.48.8) by jdtv.com with ESMTP > (Eudora Internet Mail Server 2.2); Tue, 8 Dec 1998 06:07:15 -0600 > Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) > by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA24012; > Tue, 8 Dec 1998 06:10:36 -0600 > Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 8 Dec 1998 >06:08:53 -0600 > Received: (from majordom@localhost) > by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA23873; > Tue, 8 Dec 1998 06:08:51 -0600 > Message-ID: <366DB1A2.8F72ED12@realworld.com.au> > Date: Tue, 08 Dec 1998 23:09:43 +0000 > From: Dean Laffan > X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 (Macintosh; I; PPC) > MIME-Version: 1.0 > To: "pdf@lists.pdfzone.com" > Subject: [PDF] re-setting bookmarks > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; >x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com > LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html > ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf > CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com > *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com > __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 8-Dec-1998 14:44:36-GMT,2646;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA21194 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 1998 07:44:34 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA01887; Tue, 8 Dec 1998 08:39:52 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 8 Dec 1998 08:35:26 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA01566; Tue, 8 Dec 1998 08:35:24 -0600 Message-ID: <366E2643.A0B6108A@realworld.com.au> Date: Tue, 08 Dec 1998 23:26:59 -0800 From: Dean Laffan Organization: Real World Productions X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] re-setting bookmarks References: <1298997208-4492770@jdtv.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Jeff Rochon wrote: > hi dean, > > a friend of mine wrote a program for me [currently windows only] that does batch bookmarking with pdf files. > > all you have to do is create one master bookmark page [pdf] and then you can apply that bookmark it to a directory of pdfs. from what i hear it is the only program available that does this. > > it will replace any current bookmark on those pages with the bookmark from the master. it will do 250 pages in less than 5 minutes. > > is this something that we should pursue marketing? > toss me an email if anyone is interested. i would also like to know what someone would consider a fair price for a program like this. > > all the best, > jeff rochon > Thanks for the reply Jeff. We are under a buku tight deadline and I am hoping someone has a hidden shortcut in Exchange for this. I can't comment on the suitability for marketing the plug-in, I'm sure others on the list will know more about it than I do. Thanks again Dean __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 8-Dec-1998 15:12:34-GMT,3034;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA21839 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 1998 08:12:28 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA04792; Tue, 8 Dec 1998 09:09:54 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 8 Dec 1998 09:08:20 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA04602; Tue, 8 Dec 1998 09:08:11 -0600 From: "Jim Cullen" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] re-setting bookmarks Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 10:11:57 -0500 Message-ID: <000a01be22bd$191dcfa0$418799d1@oemcomputer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 In-Reply-To: <366DB1A2.8F72ED12@realworld.com.au> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > I've had this same problem. The easiest solution is to use a macro recorder to change the links. Each of the necessary commands has a keystroke except selecting the bookmark. So, you click on the bookmark then press the macro key, then repeat 200 times. This isn't elegant or automated, but it is the most direct route to the finish. -----Original Message----- From: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com [mailto:owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com] On Behalf Of Dean Laffan Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 1998 6:10 PM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] re-setting bookmarks < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Hi all I ahve a 250 page pdf with about 200 bookmarks done by a contractor. He has mistakenly set the view on all of them to fit page instead of fit width. Is there an easy way to do a global re-set ? Preferably just using Exchange. We run 3.1 on Mac and Win. TIA Dean Laffan Real World __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 8-Dec-1998 15:13:09-GMT,4954;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA21846 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 1998 08:12:35 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA04793; Tue, 8 Dec 1998 09:09:54 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 8 Dec 1998 09:08:17 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA04598; Tue, 8 Dec 1998 09:08:10 -0600 Date: 08 Dec 98 09:09:09 -0600 From: Jeff Rochon Subject: Re: [PDF] re-setting bookmarks To: pdf X-Mailer: QuickMail Pro 1.5.3 (Mac) X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-Ascii" Message-ID: <1298993052-4742641@jdtv.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id JAA04578 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Reply to: Re: [PDF] re-setting bookmarks hi dean, there isn't any shortcut that does this this type of work. the only way would be to do each page one-by-one. YUCK!!! :( i was in your position once. was not fun. [Batch Bookmark] as i call it, is the ONLY program that i know [including any plug-ins] that does this batch bookmarking across many pdfs. if you run into a jam and need help, you know where i live. all the best, jeff rochon ============ Dean Laffan wrote: > >< ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > > > >Jeff Rochon wrote: > >> hi dean, >> >> a friend of mine wrote a program for me [currently windows only] that >does batch bookmarking with pdf files. >> >> all you have to do is create one master bookmark page [pdf] and then you >can apply that bookmark it to a directory of pdfs. from what i hear it is the >only program available that does this. >> >> it will replace any current bookmark on those pages with the bookmark >from the master. it will do 250 pages in less than 5 minutes. >> >> is this something that we should pursue marketing? >> toss me an email if anyone is interested. i would also like to know what >someone would consider a fair price for a program like this. >> >> all the best, >> jeff rochon >> > >Thanks for the reply Jeff. We are under a buku tight deadline and I am >hoping someone has a hidden shortcut in Exchange for this. I can't comment on the >suitability for marketing the plug-in, >I'm sure others on the list will know more about it than I do. > >Thanks again > >Dean > > >__________________________________________________________________ > >PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" > >@ PDF Showcase: >__________________________________________________________________ > > >RFC822 header >----------------------------------- > > Return-Path: > Received: from everglades.binc.net (208.155.48.8) by jdtv.com with ESMTP > (Eudora Internet Mail Server 2.2); Tue, 8 Dec 1998 08:36:00 -0600 > Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) > by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA01750; > Tue, 8 Dec 1998 08:38:37 -0600 > Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 8 Dec 1998 >08:35:26 -0600 > Received: (from majordom@localhost) > by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA01566; > Tue, 8 Dec 1998 08:35:24 -0600 > Message-ID: <366E2643.A0B6108A@realworld.com.au> > Date: Tue, 08 Dec 1998 23:26:59 -0800 > From: Dean Laffan > Organization: Real World Productions > X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) > MIME-Version: 1.0 > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: Re: [PDF] re-setting bookmarks > References: <1298997208-4492770@jdtv.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com > LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html > ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf > CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com > *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com > __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 8-Dec-1998 15:47:44-GMT,1899;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA22602 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 1998 08:47:38 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA08182; Tue, 8 Dec 1998 09:45:41 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 8 Dec 1998 09:44:14 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA07992; Tue, 8 Dec 1998 09:44:08 -0600 Message-ID: <366DE438.BF35BB3D@realworld.com.au> Date: Wed, 09 Dec 1998 02:45:43 +0000 From: Dean Laffan X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] re-setting bookmarks References: <1298993052-4742641@jdtv.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Thanks Jeff andJim. I have just received the update from my contractor.... all manually updated. It's now 2.30 am here in Oz so we're both having an ugly time of it ! Thanks again for yur prompt responses. Dean __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 8-Dec-1998 16:31:55-GMT,2271;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA23716 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 1998 09:31:54 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA12251; Tue, 8 Dec 1998 10:27:33 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 8 Dec 1998 10:25:28 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA12011; Tue, 8 Dec 1998 10:25:26 -0600 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] acroread? In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 07 Dec 1998 22:40:41 PST." <199812072240.OAA18711@pawnee.synopsys.com> Date: Tue, 08 Dec 1998 16:25:21 +0000 Message-ID: <16506.913134321@isode.com> From: Chris Ridd Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > On Mon, 07 Dec 1998 22:40:41 PST, Cynthia Hsieh wrote: > > < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > > hi, > > in unix the acroread is a command for acrobat+search and acrobat reader only. > is there a way to differenciate these two in the command line? > > > tks, > --cindy :) There's no obvious way as far as I can see. Two ideas came to mind, but neither worked: you can set an X resource via the -xdm parameter, but I don't see any useful X resource settings for acroread :-( You could also try persuading acroread that the plug_ins directory doesn't exist somehow, but I couldn't see any obvious way of doing that either :-( Sorry! Chris __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 8-Dec-1998 20:10:26-GMT,2581;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA29361 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 1998 13:10:25 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA31602; Tue, 8 Dec 1998 14:06:12 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 8 Dec 1998 14:02:11 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA31155; Tue, 8 Dec 1998 14:02:05 -0600 Message-ID: <366D82C3.A366CB31@dwsd.org> Date: Tue, 08 Dec 1998 14:49:23 -0500 From: "James Balogh" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.07 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Envoy conversion References: <3.0.5.32.19981207164444.0085e7e0@pop.iglou.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Thanks Steve, but I failed to include that I needed to retain hyperlinks. Sorry. The first three pages of this document are Table of Contents to the rest of the document (700 plus pages). Jim Steve Rindsberg wrote: > < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > > > > >Are there any programs out there to convert a Envoy file into a PDF? > > > > Print from the Envoy viewer to: > > - PDFWriter > > - PS/Distiller Ass't and Distill the result > > Probably won't produce optimal PDFs, and you'll likely lose any links and > such. > Steve Rindsberg/Prez > RDP > http://www.rdpslides.com > > __________________________________________________________________ > > PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" > > @ PDF Showcase: > __________________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 8-Dec-1998 20:30:28-GMT,4064;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA29903 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 1998 13:30:22 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA01027; Tue, 8 Dec 1998 14:26:57 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 8 Dec 1998 14:24:14 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA00753; Tue, 8 Dec 1998 14:24:12 -0600 Message-ID: <697A4CA51395D111A658AA0004005806A32879@NT6> From: "Pottinger, Hardy" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Question and FYI Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 14:23:29 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > First a question: Does anyone know of a way to get an acrobat file to alter the search preferences? In other words, the default search preferences after one installs Reader + Search presents the user with a simple text search box. Is it possible to somehow set the preferences after a brand new install in such a way that the search preferences present a user with the title, author, subject and keywords fields? Next, in a previous series of notes I was looking for help in setting up a hybrid CD-ROM with some sort of splash screens. While my group has elected to go with a vendor (a regular on this list, BTW--Hi, John) to produce the splash screen in Macromedia Director, I wanted to share a little discovery I made regarding multi-platform splash screens. Aandi found a fellow who makes auto-install software for Windows 95/98. He's got a wide selection of different software, depending on how you want your CD-ROM to perform. Check out his page at http://www.powerup.com.au/~calypso/autoview.html. Most of these programs cost around $10-$60. I found a similar set of programs which work on Macs... with one big catch: it requires Finder Scripting to be loaded, which means you'll need System 7.5 or higher. However, if that profile fits your users (it didn't fit ours), you can whip together a very nice looking splash screen for $60. You can find his web page at: http://www.montalcini.com/. You'll need two programs: Custom Launcher (for the Splash Screen) and Disk-O-Matic (to get QuickTime to Auto-Launch your CD). Finally, if you want to use Acrobat as a platform for a kiosk in Windows 95 (which is one of the uses many folks are now saying Acrobat is good for), you will want to check out two programs: Posum Software's Execute Screen Saver (for timing-out your kiosk when the user walks away), which you can find at http://posum.com/scr32.html for a total of $5 per computer; and WinKill, which is freeware (for killing Acrobat so you don't load up with a bunch of open files). You can find it lots of places, but the one that seems to be working well right now is http://www.winfiles.com/apps/98/shell-shutdown.html. Hope that info helps someone... and that someone will be able to help me. Thanks! ----------------------------------- HARDY POTTINGER Information Coordinator Orthopaedic Research Society 6300 N River Rd Ste 727 Rosemont, IL 60018-4226 (847)384-4219 / FAX (847)823-0536 pottinger@aaos.org http://www.ors.org ----------------------------------- __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 8-Dec-1998 23:25:38-GMT,1993;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA04472 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 1998 16:25:37 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA14639; Tue, 8 Dec 1998 17:21:43 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 8 Dec 1998 17:18:19 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA14443; Tue, 8 Dec 1998 17:18:15 -0600 From: sgililland@nexstar.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: NEXSTAR To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <872566D4.00801DDD.00@pigeon.nexstar.com> Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 15:18:17 -0800 Subject: [PDF] Print problems - Help!!! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Here's the problem, hope someone can shed some light on this - quick, of course (deadlines!!@#(*&$!) Document: printed in Times Roman 12 point Printer: HP4MPlus PS Driver: AdobePS4.drv SPD: HP4Plus4.spd The letter "y" is being dropped - randomly - from text! Printer: HP4MPlus PS Driver: AdobePS4.drv PPD: HPLJ5SI1.ppd The letter "y" prints, the letter "x" is dropped - randomly - from text! Any clues??? Thanks, SueG __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 9-Dec-1998 0:00:25-GMT,3000;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA05320 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 1998 17:00:10 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA15913; Tue, 8 Dec 1998 17:41:10 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 8 Dec 1998 17:39:53 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA15776; Tue, 8 Dec 1998 17:39:52 -0600 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19981208233947.0096fd90@env-sol.com> X-Sender: thiersch@env-sol.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 08 Dec 1998 15:39:47 -0800 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Tom Thiersch Subject: Re: [PDF] Question and FYI Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > HARDY, The default preferences can be set by altering appropriate Registry values, and can be implemented in the ABCPY installation script utility for Windows environments; however, this won't help you much if you really need a cross-platform solution. Another way (which should be usable in a cross-platform situation) is to create a "getting started" PDF document that contains some links to guide the user; one link can say "Click to set Search Preferences", and would invoke a "Link / Execute Menu Item / File / Preferences / Search" command. Then, the user would have to simply set the preferences according to the settings you would document for them and click "OK". There *may* also be a way to automate the entire process using buttons and Java, but that's beyond my experience with those features -- has anyone tried this? Good luck, Tom Thiersch At 02:23 PM 12/8/98 -0600, you wrote: > >< ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > >First a question: Does anyone know of a way to get an acrobat file to >alter the search preferences? In other words, the default search >preferences after one installs Reader + Search presents the user with a >simple text search box. Is it possible to somehow set the preferences >after a brand new install in such a way that the search preferences >present a user with the title, author, subject and keywords fields? > __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 9-Dec-1998 3:27:55-GMT,4310;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA10700 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 1998 20:27:54 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA29508; Tue, 8 Dec 1998 21:24:06 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 8 Dec 1998 21:22:58 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA29389; Tue, 8 Dec 1998 21:22:57 -0600 Message-ID: <366DEC86.B9C2678F@starnetinc.com> Date: Tue, 08 Dec 1998 21:20:38 -0600 From: George Hunter X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Web Search Engine for PDF References: <008f01bcea73$1516b6c0$4fd20018@CX648066-A.msnv1.occa.home.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------960184C02646EBC2F95CDC5C" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > --------------960184C02646EBC2F95CDC5C Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit You might try: http://discovery.altavista.com/ AltaVista provides a personal search engine as well as a server search engine. The last time I asked, they had included PDF's in the file types supported. George Hunter > -----Original Message----- > From: Mario E. Martinez-Montalvo > > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Date: Monday, December 07, 1998 8:58 PM > Subject: [PDF] Web Search Engine for PDF > The Search feature of Acrobat Catalog does not work in the > Web, as most of us already know. Does anyone know a good, > cheap (free) Search Engine for PDF in the Web? I downloaded > the Personal Library which is free but I have not set it up > yet. Has anybody used it? Is it OK? M.E. Martinez-Montalvo > --------------960184C02646EBC2F95CDC5C Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit You might try:
  http://discovery.altavista.com/
AltaVista provides a personal search engine as well as a server search engine.  The last time I asked, they had included PDF's in the file types supported.

George Hunter
 

-----Original Message-----
From: Mario E. Martinez-Montalvo <martinez_montalvo@yahoo.com>
To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com <pdf@lists.pdfzone.com>
Date: Monday, December 07, 1998 8:58 PM
Subject: [PDF] Web Search Engine for PDF
 The Search feature of Acrobat Catalog does not work in the Web, as most of us already know. Does anyone know a good, cheap (free) Search Engine for PDF in the Web? I downloaded the Personal Library which is free but I have not set it up yet. Has anybody used it? Is it OK? M.E. Martinez-Montalvo
--------------960184C02646EBC2F95CDC5C-- __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 9-Dec-1998 3:27:54-GMT,1996;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA10697 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 1998 20:27:53 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA29339; Tue, 8 Dec 1998 21:22:25 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 8 Dec 1998 21:20:00 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA29158; Tue, 8 Dec 1998 21:19:58 -0600 Message-ID: <366DE8DB.4A58DF90@pacific.net.sg> Date: Wed, 09 Dec 1998 11:05:00 +0800 From: jo leong X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] link to named Destination X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Hi, does anyone know of a way to create a named destination in a pdf file without having to write pdfmark code ? I'm trying to creat links to page documents without having to directly point to a page number. There is javascipt - gotoNameDest that will allow a jump to one but how do I create it in the first place. Was hoping that there would be a plugin somewhere that does this. Josephine __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 9-Dec-1998 3:35:38-GMT,3177;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA10867 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 1998 20:35:37 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA30266; Tue, 8 Dec 1998 21:33:47 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 8 Dec 1998 21:32:14 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA30084; Tue, 8 Dec 1998 21:32:07 -0600 Message-Id: <199812090332.WAA00667@uakron.edu> From: "D. P. Story" Organization: The University of Akron To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 22:27:28 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: [PDF] link to named Destination In-reply-to: <366DE8DB.4A58DF90@pacific.net.sg> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01b) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Have you gone to pdfzone? They are a great resource of information. Within their web pages, they list most all plug-ins available. I believe there is one that inserts named destinations. See if you can find it. On 9 Dec 98, at 11:05, jo leong wrote: > > < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > > Hi, > > does anyone know of a way to create a named destination in a pdf file > without having to write pdfmark code ? I'm trying to creat links to page > documents without having to directly point to a page number. There is > javascipt - gotoNameDest that will allow a jump to one but how do I create > it in the first place. Was hoping that there would be a plugin somewhere > that does this. > > Josephine > > > __________________________________________________________________ > > PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" > @ > PDF Showcase: > __________________________________________________________________ > > Dr. D. P. Story dpstory@uakron.edu http://www.math.uakron.edu/~dpstory/ Dept of Mathematics and Computer Science / University of Akron / Akron, Ohio 44325 AcroTeX Site Overview: http://www.math.uakron.edu/~dpstory/acrotex.html Site Includes: e-Calculus, Algebra Review in Ten Lessons, Mathematics Games, Pdfmarks:Links & Forms, Using LaTeX to Create Quality PDF Documents for the WWW, and much, much more. __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 9-Dec-1998 3:35:56-GMT,2106;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA10872 for ; Tue, 8 Dec 1998 20:35:55 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA30356; Tue, 8 Dec 1998 21:34:26 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 8 Dec 1998 21:33:17 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA30196; Tue, 8 Dec 1998 21:33:15 -0600 From: CortezR@aol.com Message-ID: <8668fb52.366decee@aol.com> Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 22:22:22 EST To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: [PDF] Adding sound files to pdf Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 226 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > I am working with Exchange on Windows 95 and encountering the following error about 60% of the time that I try to add a .wav file which I create with the "Sound Recorder" which comes as part of Win 95. (Sorry, only uncompressed sampled sound can be imported) I am however able to add some files which I create by starting with one which I have used successfully in the past. I open it, edit it, and re-save under a new name. If I check the attributes of a sound file which works and one that does not they appear to be the same. Any suggestions? __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 9-Dec-1998 11:00:16-GMT,1988;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA19982 for ; Wed, 9 Dec 1998 04:00:14 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA21079; Wed, 9 Dec 1998 04:55:22 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 9 Dec 1998 04:52:57 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA20896; Wed, 9 Dec 1998 04:52:55 -0600 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] link to named Destination Date: Wed, 9 Dec 1998 09:55:35 -0000 Message-ID: <000701be2361$fe8b6260$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <366DE8DB.4A58DF90@pacific.net.sg> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > There is a plug-in to create named destinations. "Name-it" I think. See www.pdfzone.com. > does anyone know of a way to create a named destination in a pdf file > without having to write pdfmark code ? __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 9-Dec-1998 12:38:01-GMT,2612;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA21619 for ; Wed, 9 Dec 1998 05:38:00 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA26296; Wed, 9 Dec 1998 06:32:19 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 9 Dec 1998 06:30:00 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA26069; Wed, 9 Dec 1998 06:29:59 -0600 Message-ID: <00EF773582D6D111939D00A0C9A92F6402846C46@il0015exch003u.ih.lucent.com> From: "Farrell, Kevin (Kevin)" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] link to named Destination Date: Wed, 9 Dec 1998 06:29:44 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Why not use Articles to be "named destinations." This works for me all the time. _____________________________________ Kevin Farrell Lucent Technologies (EMNS) *Voice (630) 224-6890 *Pager (630) 680-6367 -----Original Message----- From: Aandi Inston [mailto:quite@dial.pipex.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 1998 3:56 AM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] link to named Destination < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > There is a plug-in to create named destinations. "Name-it" I think. See www.pdfzone.com. > does anyone know of a way to create a named destination in a pdf file > without having to write pdfmark code ? __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 9-Dec-1998 13:39:44-GMT,2672;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA22798 for ; Wed, 9 Dec 1998 06:39:44 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA30271; Wed, 9 Dec 1998 07:34:10 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 9 Dec 1998 07:32:19 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA30109; Wed, 9 Dec 1998 07:32:17 -0600 Message-ID: <366E7C2D.A556010C@wanadoo.fr> Date: Wed, 09 Dec 1998 14:33:33 +0100 From: Michel Lausseur X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [fr] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] re-setting bookmarks References: <366DB1A2.8F72ED12@realworld.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Dean, You should set your bookmarks with the "default" option instead of "fit page" or "fit width". This option will allow the users to adapt constantly themselves the parameters suitable to the resolution of their screen and the nature of their job (quick viewing or comfortable reading) Dean Laffan a écrit: > < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > > Hi all > > I ahve a 250 page pdf with about 200 bookmarks done by a contractor. He > has mistakenly set the view on all of them to fit page instead of fit > width. > > Is there an easy way to do a global re-set ? Preferably just using > Exchange. We run 3.1 on Mac and Win. > > TIA > > Dean Laffan > Real World > > __________________________________________________________________ > > PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" > > @ PDF Showcase: > __________________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 9-Dec-1998 14:51:55-GMT,3843;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA24412 for ; Wed, 9 Dec 1998 07:51:54 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA05011; Wed, 9 Dec 1998 08:45:36 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 9 Dec 1998 08:38:19 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA04362; Wed, 9 Dec 1998 08:38:10 -0600 From: sgililland@nexstar.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: NEXSTAR To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <872566D5.00507F58.00@pigeon.nexstar.com> Date: Wed, 9 Dec 1998 06:38:01 -0800 Subject: Re: [PDF] re-setting bookmarks Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/mixed; Boundary="0__=cyaHr9UBGIDqHg67HtxmO4HdLbU88XvV4bbPV26HuE0oKAbCijHhOu22" Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > --0__=cyaHr9UBGIDqHg67HtxmO4HdLbU88XvV4bbPV26HuE0oKAbCijHhOu22 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline As an added note, the FDA requirements for NDA submissions are that all bookmarks and links be set to "default", for the very reasons stated by Mr. Lausseur. Michel Lausseur on 12/09/98 05:33:33 AM Please respond to pdf@lists.pdfzone.com To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com cc: (bcc: Sue Gililland/SanDimas/NeXstar) Subject: Re: [PDF] re-setting bookmarks < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Dean, You should set your bookmarks with the "default" option instead of "fit page" or "fit width". This option will allow the users to adapt constantly themselves the parameters suitable to the resolution of their screen and the nature of their job (quick viewing or comfortable reading) Dean Laffan a --0__=cyaHr9UBGIDqHg67HtxmO4HdLbU88XvV4bbPV26HuE0oKAbCijHhOu22 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable =E9crit: > < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995= -- > > > Hi all > > I ahve a 250 page pdf with about 200 bookmarks done by a contractor. = He > has mistakenly set the view on all of them to fit page instead of fit= > width. > > Is there an easy way to do a global re-set ? Preferably just using > Exchange. We run 3.1 on Mac and Win. > > TIA > > Dean Laffan > Real World > > __________________________________________________________________ > > PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" > = > @ PDF Showcase: > __________________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ = --0__=cyaHr9UBGIDqHg67HtxmO4HdLbU88XvV4bbPV26HuE0oKAbCijHhOu22-- __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 9-Dec-1998 14:52:21-GMT,2250;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA24429 for ; Wed, 9 Dec 1998 07:52:20 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA05492; Wed, 9 Dec 1998 08:49:38 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 9 Dec 1998 08:48:27 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA05302; Wed, 9 Dec 1998 08:48:25 -0600 Message-ID: <90001230CD9ED111B47F00608CF26D1E163C03@ARTHUR> From: Karl De Abrew To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Code Cuts moved - http://www.codecuts.com/ Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 01:47:46 +1100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Hello all, I would like let everyone know that many of the tips and tricks that have been posted on our site (http://www.roundtable.com.au/) under the title "Code Cuts" have now moved to their own website, http://www.codecuts.com/ If anyone has any further snippets that they think would be appropriately displayed on the new site, please let me know. One of the more recent additions to the site is a great tip from Robin Saccuzzo which demonstrates "How to batch print PDF using Windows Explorer (Win98 only)" kind regards, Karl De Abrew karl@roundtable.com.au A Round Table Solution - PlanetPDF coming soon... http://www.roundtable.com.au/ __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 9-Dec-1998 17:26:05-GMT,2432;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA28283 for ; Wed, 9 Dec 1998 10:26:04 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA21592; Wed, 9 Dec 1998 11:22:13 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 9 Dec 1998 11:18:24 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA21242; Wed, 9 Dec 1998 11:18:21 -0600 Message-Id: <199812091718.JAA28051@dodo.prod.itd.earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.0c (197) Date: Wed, 09 Dec 1998 09:23:07 -0700 Subject: [PDF] WMF and CGM to PICT conversions From: "C. Scott Miller" To: PDF Lists Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > I have over 100 CGM and WMF (screen shots) that are part of a FrameMaker to PDF conversion project. They do not show up on my Mac. Neither the WMF nor CGM formats are supported by DeBabelizer or Photoshop (as far as I know). I would like to convert them all to PICT. Does anyone know of a utility for converting WMF and/or CGM to PICT (or any other intermediate format supported by Photoshop). There used to be a utility called METAPICT for the batch conversion of CGM to PICT but I don't think it was ever 32-bit compatible. Thanks, C. Scott Miller PDF R_e_s_e_a_r_c_h__C_o_m_p_a_n_i_o_n A Designer's Guide to Adobe's Portable Document Format http://www.performancegraphics.com a production of Performance Graphics millercs@performancegraphics.com __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 9-Dec-1998 17:53:58-GMT,2997;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA29135 for ; Wed, 9 Dec 1998 10:53:53 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA24688; Wed, 9 Dec 1998 11:51:57 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 9 Dec 1998 11:50:25 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA24605; Wed, 9 Dec 1998 11:50:23 -0600 Message-ID: From: "Epps, Fred W" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Print problems - Help!!! Date: Wed, 9 Dec 1998 09:50:09 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2407.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > I have noticed this with other apps (Word) to an HP 5m using Adobe 4.2.4 driver. I used to use the 4.2.1 driver and NEVER saw it happen. BUT this might not be the problem at all. It is random. I can print the same file over and it can be OK. Fred.W.Epps@Boeing.com > ---------- > From: sgililland@nexstar.com[SMTP:sgililland@nexstar.com] > Reply To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Sent: Tuesday, 08 December, 1998 03:18 PM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: [PDF] Print problems - Help!!! > > > < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > > Here's the problem, hope someone can shed some light on this - quick, of > course (deadlines!!@#(*&$!) > > Document: printed in Times Roman 12 point > Printer: HP4MPlus PS > Driver: AdobePS4.drv > SPD: HP4Plus4.spd > The letter "y" is being dropped - randomly - from text! > > Printer: HP4MPlus PS > Driver: AdobePS4.drv > PPD: HPLJ5SI1.ppd > The letter "y" prints, the letter "x" is dropped - randomly - from text! > > Any clues??? > > Thanks, SueG > > > > __________________________________________________________________ > > PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" > > @ PDF Showcase: > __________________________________________________________________ > __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 9-Dec-1998 18:29:08-GMT,4548;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA00068 for ; Wed, 9 Dec 1998 11:29:07 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA28291; Wed, 9 Dec 1998 12:24:38 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 9 Dec 1998 12:22:38 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA28052; Wed, 9 Dec 1998 12:22:36 -0600 X-Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated X-Division: Core Technology X-Department: Product Interoperability Analysis X-URL: Message-Id: <4.1.19981209101946.00c1f830@mail-303> X-Sender: isaacs@mail-303 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Wed, 09 Dec 1998 10:21:22 -0800 To: Fred.W.Epps@Boeing.com, sgililland@nexstar.com From: Dov Isaacs Subject: RE: [PDF] Print problems - Help!!! Cc: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Here is your answer: I have posted this a few times on both various PDF / Acrobat lists and FrameMaker lists: =========================================================== There is a bug in the AdobePS 4.2.4 driver that affects all GDI applications (Word, Excel, FrameMaker, etc.) printing to Adobe PostScript printers with versions less than 2015. The workaround is as follows: (1) Delete the printer instances of such printers. (2) Edit the PPD files to change strings 2012, 2013, or 2014 to 2015. (3) Create new printer instances via the AdobePS 4.2.4 setup program, making sure to restore the proper settings. Voila, the problem should disappear. - Dov PS: If anyone does this and the problem doesn't go away, please let me know ASAP! At 12/9/98 09:50 AM , Epps, Fred W wrote: > >< ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > >I have noticed this with other apps (Word) to an HP 5m using Adobe 4.2.4 >driver. >I used to use the 4.2.1 driver and NEVER saw it happen. >BUT this might not be the problem at all. It is random. I can print the same >file over and it can be OK. > >Fred.W.Epps@Boeing.com > >> ---------- >> From: sgililland@nexstar.com[SMTP:sgililland@nexstar.com] >> Reply To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com >> Sent: Tuesday, 08 December, 1998 03:18 PM >> To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com >> Subject: [PDF] Print problems - Help!!! >> >> >> < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > >> >> Here's the problem, hope someone can shed some light on this - quick, of >> course (deadlines!!@#(*&$!) >> >> Document: printed in Times Roman 12 point >> Printer: HP4MPlus PS >> Driver: AdobePS4.drv >> SPD: HP4Plus4.spd >> The letter "y" is being dropped - randomly - from text! >> >> Printer: HP4MPlus PS >> Driver: AdobePS4.drv >> PPD: HPLJ5SI1.ppd >> The letter "y" prints, the letter "x" is dropped - randomly - from text! >> >> Any clues??? >> >> Thanks, SueG >> >> >> >> __________________________________________________________________ >> >> PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" >> >> @ PDF Showcase: >> __________________________________________________________________ >> > >__________________________________________________________________ > >PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" > >@ PDF Showcase: >__________________________________________________________________ > __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 9-Dec-1998 21:49:53-GMT,2040;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA05061 for ; Wed, 9 Dec 1998 14:49:52 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA15170; Wed, 9 Dec 1998 15:44:04 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 9 Dec 1998 15:41:46 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA14864; Wed, 9 Dec 1998 15:41:44 -0600 From: Laurie_Coyne@mail.amsinc.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: AMSINC To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <852566D5.0075F79E.00@ams-central-gate-5a.amsinc.com> Date: Wed, 9 Dec 1998 16:33:52 -0500 Subject: [PDF] Acrobat Distillar Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Help!!! I am having a heck of a time trying to get distiller configured. I am operating under win98 and was previous operating under win95 (the Acrobat setup and distillar were working fine- in fact when you went into word97 or word7.0, the option to print to the distillar was there. (not anymore) Any way can someone lead me into the right direction to getting this setup I have read the Read me files and followed those instructions to no avail. Thank You __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 9-Dec-1998 21:49:58-GMT,1860;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA05063 for ; Wed, 9 Dec 1998 14:49:53 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA15594; Wed, 9 Dec 1998 15:46:52 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 9 Dec 1998 15:45:41 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA15476; Wed, 9 Dec 1998 15:45:38 -0600 Message-ID: <15DC7B0FDBB2D111AF9F00A0C9A9C5A9D4A67B@POSVM007> From: "Peoples, Kevin (i)" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] vector to bitmap transparency Date: Wed, 9 Dec 1998 13:41:56 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Is there a way to maintain an Illustrator file's transparency when converting to bitmap (for smaller PDF file sizes). I find that each file format out of Photoshop 5 presents a white rather than transparent background. Seems like a simple issue...any ideas? __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 9-Dec-1998 22:27:40-GMT,2105;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA05949 for ; Wed, 9 Dec 1998 15:27:39 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA19030; Wed, 9 Dec 1998 16:23:45 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 9 Dec 1998 16:22:28 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA18870; Wed, 9 Dec 1998 16:22:27 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19981209232013.007af980@pop.online.de> X-Sender: 1025-56@pop.online.de X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Wed, 09 Dec 1998 23:20:13 +0100 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Reinhard Jaehnig Subject: [PDF] Font Embedding Problem In-Reply-To: <000e01be0f5b$08630420$0101c6c0@gateway> References: <3.0.6.32.19981112195515.007b4100@pop.online.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Hi everybody, Any ideas on the following problem of mine: The Distiller option Embed all fonts is checked, Subset fonts is unchecked. Problem is: Distiller embeds and subsets the type 1 font Frutiger, which means that there's no touching up of the file in Exchange. Embedding and touching up works fine when using the PDFWRITER. TIA for any suggestions. Reinhard __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 9-Dec-1998 22:28:05-GMT,2146;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA05965 for ; Wed, 9 Dec 1998 15:28:04 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA19031; Wed, 9 Dec 1998 16:23:45 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 9 Dec 1998 16:22:25 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA18841; Wed, 9 Dec 1998 16:22:22 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19981209230733.007afbd0@pop.online.de> X-Sender: 1025-56@pop.online.de X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Wed, 09 Dec 1998 23:07:33 +0100 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Reinhard Jaehnig Subject: [PDF] Offending Command: G5F Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Hi everybody, A Wordpro file is printed to a file using the Adobe Postscript Driver with Distiller PPD (ADISTILL.PPD) and distilled. When I print the file to a HP 4000 printer, I get an unregistered error, offending command: G5F. The same Wordpro file is printed to a file using the Adobe Postscript Driver with the Default Postscript PPD (DEFPRTR2.PPD) and distilled. The file prints fine to a HP 4000 printer. I could just leave it at that. I would prefer to know what's going on, though. Any ideas ? TIA, Reinhard __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 9-Dec-1998 22:48:40-GMT,1758;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA06440 for ; Wed, 9 Dec 1998 15:48:39 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA21708; Wed, 9 Dec 1998 16:46:36 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 9 Dec 1998 16:44:57 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA21508; Wed, 9 Dec 1998 16:44:53 -0600 From: "ian joslin" To: Subject: [PDF] Text replacement within PDF Date: Wed, 9 Dec 1998 22:43:31 -1100 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Message-ID: <0d47942442209c8UPIMSSMTPUSR05@email.msn.com> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Is there any knowledge of a utility which would allow text editing by block, as opposed to line-for-line editing - within a PDF file? IanJ __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 9-Dec-1998 22:49:43-GMT,3120;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA06491 for ; Wed, 9 Dec 1998 15:49:42 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA21705; Wed, 9 Dec 1998 16:46:34 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 9 Dec 1998 16:44:55 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA21507; Wed, 9 Dec 1998 16:44:53 -0600 X-Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated X-Division: Core Technology X-Department: Product Interoperability Analysis X-URL: Message-Id: <4.1.19981209144049.00c24390@mail-303> X-Sender: isaacs@mail-303 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Wed, 09 Dec 1998 14:43:44 -0800 To: Reinhard Jaehnig From: Dov Isaacs Subject: Re: [PDF] Font Embedding Problem Cc: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.19981209232013.007af980@pop.online.de> References: <000e01be0f5b$08630420$0101c6c0@gateway> <3.0.6.32.19981112195515.007b4100@pop.online.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > At 12/9/98 02:20 PM , Reinhard Jaehnig wrote: > >< ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > > >Hi everybody, > >Any ideas on the following problem of mine: > >The Distiller option Embed all fonts is checked, >Subset fonts is unchecked. Problem is: Distiller >embeds and subsets the type 1 font Frutiger, which >means that there's no touching up of the file in >Exchange. Embedding and touching up works fine when >using the PDFWRITER. > >TIA for any suggestions. >Reinhard If you are running under Windows'9X with the AdobePS 4.x driver, the problem is that the driver is doing its own subsetting of the fonts via incremental download. This is GREAT for increasing printer performance, but does cause problems for creating PDF that is retouchable, so to speak. To get around this problem, set the printer properties for the driver such that NO Type 1 fonts are to be downloaded to the "printer" (i.e., the Distiller in this case). The Distiller will find your fonts and put them in complete without subsetting if you maintain the settings you claim you have. Let me know if this solves your problem or not. - Dov __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 9-Dec-1998 23:30:21-GMT,2555;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA07540 for ; Wed, 9 Dec 1998 16:30:15 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA25090; Wed, 9 Dec 1998 17:26:29 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 9 Dec 1998 17:25:00 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA24971; Wed, 9 Dec 1998 17:24:58 -0600 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Offending Command: G5F Date: Wed, 9 Dec 1998 22:36:17 -0000 Message-ID: <000201be23cb$0a718e60$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.19981209230733.007afbd0@pop.online.de> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > A Wordpro file is printed to a file using the Adobe Postscript > Driver with Distiller PPD (ADISTILL.PPD) and distilled. When I > print the file to a HP 4000 printer, I get an unregistered error, > offending command: G5F. The error "unregistered" should never occur. It has a specific meaning: "we haven't written that part yet". So you have probably found a bug in the HP 4000 PostScript interpreter, if it is "unregistered" rather than "undefined". > > The same Wordpro file is printed to a file using the Adobe Postscript > Driver with the Default Postscript PPD (DEFPRTR2.PPD) and distilled. > The file prints fine to a HP 4000 printer. Puzzling, but the error may relate to fonts and the two PPDs might result in fonts being handled differently. __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 9-Dec-1998 23:37:53-GMT,2191;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA07727 for ; Wed, 9 Dec 1998 16:37:52 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA25794; Wed, 9 Dec 1998 17:35:21 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 9 Dec 1998 17:34:09 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA25608; Wed, 9 Dec 1998 17:34:02 -0600 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Text replacement within PDF Date: Wed, 9 Dec 1998 23:30:15 -0000 Message-ID: <000301be23cc$4e745560$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <0d47942442209c8UPIMSSMTPUSR05@email.msn.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > > Is there any knowledge of a utility which would allow text > editing by block, > as opposed to line-for-line editing - within a PDF file? This sounds a classic example of trying to use PDF for something it isn't good at. The only tools I know of that will do this feat, at least in some cases, are those from One Vision (http://www.one-vision.com). Expect to pay over $15,000. Aandi __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 10-Dec-1998 0:58:11-GMT,3007;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA09615 for ; Wed, 9 Dec 1998 17:58:10 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA30780; Wed, 9 Dec 1998 18:51:03 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 9 Dec 1998 18:49:24 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA30604; Wed, 9 Dec 1998 18:49:23 -0600 From: "Jim Cullen" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Text replacement within PDF Date: Wed, 9 Dec 1998 19:53:15 -0500 Message-ID: <000201be23d7$78284b40$6a8799d1@oemcomputer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 In-Reply-To: <0d47942442209c8UPIMSSMTPUSR05@email.msn.com> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > The PDF format isn't intended for massive editing. It's better to go back to the source. If you don't have the source, a good solution is a plug-in called ForTE. It extracts the text, graphs, and the graphics and maintains the layout. You could recreate the source files via ForTE then redistill. http://www.bcl-computers.com An even better option is Illustrator 7 or 8. Import the page, then link the lines, then edit the paragraph. -----Original Message----- From: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com [mailto:owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com] On Behalf Of ian joslin Sent: Thursday, December 10, 1998 4:44 AM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Text replacement within PDF < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Is there any knowledge of a utility which would allow text editing by block, as opposed to line-for-line editing - within a PDF file? IanJ __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 10-Dec-1998 1:04:54-GMT,1760;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA09819 for ; Wed, 9 Dec 1998 18:04:53 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA31599; Wed, 9 Dec 1998 19:01:55 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 9 Dec 1998 19:00:45 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA31486; Wed, 9 Dec 1998 19:00:42 -0600 Message-Id: <199812100059.TAA08810@mime4.prodigy.com> X-Mailer: Prodigy Internet GW(v0.9beta) - ae01dm04sc03 From: RTWN75A@prodigy.com (MR ROBERT A RUTLEDGE) Date: Wed, 9 Dec 1998 19:59:12, -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Text annotation printing...can it happen Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > How do I print a text note annotation on paper, to be with the PDF doc? There is nothing in the menu commands to do this. Can this be done by altering the code of the PDF document? Help, please. thanks, Bob Rutledge __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 10-Dec-1998 1:15:53-GMT,2251;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA10097 for ; Wed, 9 Dec 1998 18:15:52 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA32627; Wed, 9 Dec 1998 19:13:01 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 9 Dec 1998 19:11:45 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA32460; Wed, 9 Dec 1998 19:11:44 -0600 Message-ID: From: "Livingston, Thomas S" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Navigating between PDF files Date: Wed, 9 Dec 1998 17:08:12 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2407.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Does anyone know how to go from the first page of an open PDF file to the last page of an unopened PDF file? Using the Forms tool, the OPEN FILE goes to the first page of the file to be opened (as it really should). Is there another method or JavaScript that could do what I'd like to do? I thought I might have read something like this previously, so I apologize in advance if this question is repetitive. BTW, I'd rather not just combine the PDF files together. These files are used for audio presentations. When combined, the resulting file is really too large to manage comfortably. Thanks! Tom Livingston FSBTI __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 10-Dec-1998 3:36:29-GMT,1847;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA13371 for ; Wed, 9 Dec 1998 20:36:28 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA09341; Wed, 9 Dec 1998 21:29:33 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 9 Dec 1998 21:27:29 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA09184; Wed, 9 Dec 1998 21:27:27 -0600 Message-ID: From: "Livingston, Thomas S" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] RE: Navigating between PDF files Date: Wed, 9 Dec 1998 19:24:01 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2407.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > I figured out that I could use an invisible link over the button to navigate from one PDF file to the last page of an unopened PDF file. Is there anything simpler or more elegant? Thanks. Tom Livingston FSBTI __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 10-Dec-1998 3:42:00-GMT,2398;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA13492 for ; Wed, 9 Dec 1998 20:41:59 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA10216; Wed, 9 Dec 1998 21:39:24 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 9 Dec 1998 21:38:10 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA10063; Wed, 9 Dec 1998 21:38:07 -0600 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Navigating between PDF files Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 03:36:59 -0000 Message-ID: <000601be23ee$652a1d40$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > > Does anyone know how to go from the first page of an open PDF > file to the last page of an unopened PDF file? Using the > Forms tool, the OPEN FILE goes to the first page of the file > to be opened (as it really should). Is there another method > or JavaScript that could do what I'd like to do? I thought I > might have read something like this previously, so I > apologize in advance if this question is repetitive. Instead of the forms tool, use the link tool. Do a "GO TO VIEW" link direct to the last page. Tip: have both files open side by side. Aandi __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 10-Dec-1998 3:51:50-GMT,2103;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA13665 for ; Wed, 9 Dec 1998 20:51:49 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA11057; Wed, 9 Dec 1998 21:49:48 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 9 Dec 1998 21:48:39 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA10944; Wed, 9 Dec 1998 21:48:37 -0600 Message-ID: From: "Wraight, David D." To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Text annotation printing...can it happen Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 11:45:42 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > RTWN75A, :-) There is a command to Summarise Notes. This should generate a PDF file from which you can then print out. This feature is only available in Exchange .. HTH d........ .......................................... > How do I print a text note annotation on paper, to be with the PDF > doc? There is nothing in the menu commands to do this. Can this be > done by altering the code of the PDF document? Help, please. > > thanks, > Bob Rutledge > __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 10-Dec-1998 5:06:26-GMT,2693;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA15205 for ; Wed, 9 Dec 1998 22:06:25 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA15820; Wed, 9 Dec 1998 23:02:11 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 9 Dec 1998 23:00:17 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA15644; Wed, 9 Dec 1998 23:00:05 -0600 Message-Id: <199812100459.VAA08391@tmpil001.tmp.allied.com> From: "Callaway, Rebecca" To: "'Post to PDF listserve'" Cc: Adobe - Dov Isaacs Subject: [PDF] PDF writer macros in Word 97 Date: Wed, 9 Dec 1998 13:57:00 -0700 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Hi PDF'rs The group I am in has Adobe FrameMaker, and therefore, also the entire Acrobat install. We have all manner of choices for producing PDF. We are also unique in that we use Windoze '95, and the site standard is NT 4. So today, an engineer upstairs was referred to me to help him produce PDF from a Word 97 document. I could not find any macro on his system to help him do this. I had to take the file and do it on my workstation. Then I thought that perhaps the Macros are only available to those who have the full Acrobat, and would not "come with" Office 97. When I scanned Adobe's web site, it seems to imply you have to supply your Acrobat 3.x registered number in order to get/use the macro. I understand that PDFMaker requires distiller and exchange, so forth. But shouldn't I have a "Save as PDF" on the File menu in Word for PDFWriter? I know by and large it doesn't produce the best PDF, but at least it's a capability. Please provide the skinny on these macros and the requirements to run them. thx - Rebecca Callaway Publishing process Leader Alliedsignal __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 10-Dec-1998 8:49:02-GMT,2663;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA19868 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 1998 01:49:01 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA26817; Thu, 10 Dec 1998 02:23:52 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 10 Dec 1998 02:22:03 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA26673; Thu, 10 Dec 1998 02:22:00 -0600 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 9 Dec 1998 23:32:17 +0000 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: David R Evans Subject: Re: [PDF] link to named Destination In-Reply-To: <366DE8DB.4A58DF90@pacific.net.sg> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Version 3.03a Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > In message <366DE8DB.4A58DF90@pacific.net.sg>, jo leong wrote: >does anyone know of a way to create a named destination in a pdf file >without having to write pdfmark code ? I'm trying to creat links to page >documents without having to directly point to a page number. There is >javascipt - gotoNameDest that will allow a jump to one but how do I >create it in the first place. Was hoping that there would be a plugin >somewhere that does this. Yes, our Name It plug-in will do this and more. See our web site, or e- mail me directly, for more details. Regards David --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dr David R Evans Telephone: (+44) 115 9860048 / 9514230 Merlin Open Systems Facsimile: (+44) 115 9860048 P O Box 230 E-mail: dre@merlin-os.co.uk NOTTINGHAM WWW: http://www.merlin-os.co.uk/ NG2 1LJ, UK Acrobat resellers, specialists in Adobe Acrobat plug-ins and electronic publishing software, publishers of Acrobatics __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 10-Dec-1998 11:52:44-GMT,2376;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA23431 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 1998 04:52:42 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA04006; Thu, 10 Dec 1998 05:43:17 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 10 Dec 1998 05:40:14 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA03813; Thu, 10 Dec 1998 05:40:07 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19981210113935.00987100@gemini.herts.ac.uk> X-Sender: cimqsgt@gemini.herts.ac.uk X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 11:39:35 +0000 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Simon Tanner Subject: [PDF] PDF file resolution In-Reply-To: References: <366DE8DB.4A58DF90@pacific.net.sg> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Does anyone know how to derive the exact resolution (dpi) of a PDF file when you do not know the Capture settings for it's creation or even the source image file resolution? I am thinking particularly for Image and Text PDF. Also, can resolution in PDF files ever be considered to be accurate? Regards, Simon ======================================================================= Simon Tanner Email: S.G.Tanner@herts.ac.uk Digitisation Consultant (HEDS) Phone: 01707 286078 Higher Education Digitisation Service Fax: 01707 286079 University of Hertfordshire Web: http://heds.herts.ac.uk __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 10-Dec-1998 12:12:22-GMT,3604;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA23806 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 1998 05:12:20 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA05717; Thu, 10 Dec 1998 06:09:58 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 10 Dec 1998 06:08:39 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA05590; Thu, 10 Dec 1998 06:08:38 -0600 Message-ID: <366FB9CF.923CB0E2@precise-conn.com> Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 14:08:47 +0200 From: Mike X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Acrobat Distillar References: <852566D5.0075F79E.00@ams-central-gate-5a.amsinc.com> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------4FD8B317EF4FDEF7356DFB47" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------4FD8B317EF4FDEF7356DFB47 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Laurie pop into the ADOBE website and download the latest driver for win95/98. Run the driver and it will install itself. mike Laurie_Coyne@mail.amsinc.com wrote: > < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > > Help!!! I am having a heck of a time trying to get distiller configured. > I am operating under win98 and was previous operating under win95 (the > Acrobat setup and distillar were working fine- in fact when you went into > word97 or word7.0, the option to print to the distillar was there. (not > anymore) Any way can someone lead me into the right direction to getting > this setup I have read the Read me files and followed those instructions to > no avail. > > Thank You > > __________________________________________________________________ > > PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" > > @ PDF Showcase: > __________________________________________________________________ --------------4FD8B317EF4FDEF7356DFB47 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="vcard.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Mike Altman Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="vcard.vcf" begin: vcard fn: Mike Altman n: Altman;Mike org: Precise connectivity Solutions adr: 21 Hamelacha St. ;;;Rosh Haayin;;48091;Israel email;internet: maltman@precise-conn.com title: Technical writer tel;work: +972-3-9025846 ext-312 tel;fax: +972-3-9025850 tel;home: 09-9507290 or 052-894430 x-mozilla-cpt: ;0 x-mozilla-html: FALSE version: 2.1 end: vcard --------------4FD8B317EF4FDEF7356DFB47-- __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 10-Dec-1998 12:27:07-GMT,3144;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA24030 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 1998 05:27:06 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA06540; Thu, 10 Dec 1998 06:21:45 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 10 Dec 1998 06:20:31 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA06455; Thu, 10 Dec 1998 06:20:29 -0600 Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 07:20:06 -0500 From: olaf druemmer Subject: Re: [PDF] Text annotation printing...can it happen To: PDF listserver Message-ID: <199812100720_MC2-6320-4F54@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id GAA06450 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Aandi has built a function into his Quite A Box Of Tricks which 'burns' ll the annotations into the PDF page. Download a demo from www.quite.com and check it out. Olaf Druemmer > > >< ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > >How do I print a text note annotation on paper, to be with the PDF >doc? There is nothing in the menu commands to do this. Can this be >done by altering the code of the PDF document? Help, please. > >thanks, >Bob Rutledge > >__________________________________________________________________ > >PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" > >@ PDF Showcase: >__________________________________________________________________ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Olaf Druemmer ------------------------------------------------------------------------- callas software gmbh Tel +49.30.44390310 Leonardo +49.30.44390311 Pappelallee 9 Fax +49.30.4416402 connect.pdf +49.30.44342391 D 10437 Berlin callas@compuserve.com http://www.callas.de ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Download 'White Paper PDF for Prepress': http://www.callas.de/pdf_wp.pdf ------------------------------------------------------------------------- __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 10-Dec-1998 12:39:55-GMT,2263;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA24254 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 1998 05:39:54 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA07590; Thu, 10 Dec 1998 06:38:14 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 10 Dec 1998 06:35:19 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA07371; Thu, 10 Dec 1998 06:35:17 -0600 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] PDF file resolution Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 12:19:52 -0000 Message-ID: <000801be2439$69f43360$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19981210113935.00987100@gemini.herts.ac.uk> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > Does anyone know how to derive the exact resolution (dpi) of > a PDF file > when you do not know the Capture settings for it's creation > or even the > source image file resolution? I am thinking particularly for > Image and > Text PDF. Quite A Box Of Tricks (http://www.quite.com/box/) will do this, as well as give the compression method and percentage. > Also, can resolution in PDF files ever be considered to be accurate? In what sense? Aandi __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 10-Dec-1998 12:41:01-GMT,2397;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA24293 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 1998 05:40:59 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA07634; Thu, 10 Dec 1998 06:38:48 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 10 Dec 1998 06:37:43 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA07519; Thu, 10 Dec 1998 06:37:42 -0600 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Text annotation printing...can it happen Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 12:36:53 -0000 Message-ID: <000901be2439$c6e53b00$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <199812100720_MC2-6320-4F54@compuserve.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > I should note that I only "burn in" annotations which have appearance streams and are marked printable. In non technical terms, it only works with things that would print anyway! Aandi > > Aandi has built a function into his Quite A Box Of Tricks > which 'burns' > ll the annotations into the PDF page. Download a demo from > www.quite.com > and check it out. > > > > > >How do I print a text note annotation on paper, to be with the PDF > >doc? There is nothing in the menu commands to do this. Can this be > >done by altering the code of the PDF document? Help, please. __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 10-Dec-1998 14:09:55-GMT,3063;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA25951 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 1998 07:09:41 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA13672; Thu, 10 Dec 1998 08:04:59 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 10 Dec 1998 08:03:20 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA13525; Thu, 10 Dec 1998 08:03:17 -0600 Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 09:02:52 -0500 From: olaf druemmer Subject: RE: [PDF] Text annotation printing...can it happen To: PDF listserver Message-ID: <199812100903_MC2-632B-1815@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id IAA13521 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Ooops. sorry if I misguided somebody here. Aandi - what about adding this feature (ie. burn in non-printing notes)? Olaf Druemmer > >I should note that I only "burn in" annotations which have >appearance streams and are marked printable. In non technical >terms, it only works with things that would print anyway! > >Aandi >> >> Aandi has built a function into his Quite A Box Of Tricks >> which 'burns' >> ll the annotations into the PDF page. Download a demo from >> www.quite.com >> and check it out. >> > >> > >> >How do I print a text note annotation on paper, to be with the PDF >> >doc? There is nothing in the menu commands to do this. Can this be >> >done by altering the code of the PDF document? Help, please. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Olaf Druemmer ------------------------------------------------------------------------- callas software gmbh Tel +49.30.44390310 Leonardo +49.30.44390311 Pappelallee 9 Fax +49.30.4416402 connect.pdf +49.30.44342391 D 10437 Berlin callas@compuserve.com http://www.callas.de ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Download 'White Paper PDF for Prepress': http://www.callas.de/pdf_wp.pdf ------------------------------------------------------------------------- __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 10-Dec-1998 14:51:26-GMT,2126;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA26790 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 1998 07:51:20 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA17350; Thu, 10 Dec 1998 08:47:08 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 10 Dec 1998 08:43:34 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA16993; Thu, 10 Dec 1998 08:43:32 -0600 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Text annotation printing...can it happen Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 14:29:44 -0000 Message-ID: <000001be244a$179875c0$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <199812100903_MC2-632B-1815@compuserve.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > Ooops. sorry if I misguided somebody here. Aandi - what about > adding this > feature (ie. burn in non-printing notes)? > An interesting idea, and possible - but of course the notes would then permanently and irreversibly obscure the text underneath! Is there any call for printing notes in place? Aandi __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 10-Dec-1998 15:05:53-GMT,4172;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA27223 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 1998 08:05:38 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA19046; Thu, 10 Dec 1998 09:05:19 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 10 Dec 1998 09:02:06 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA18636; Thu, 10 Dec 1998 09:02:02 -0600 Message-ID: <3DF3710809BCD0119DF90000F84009D1F8981A@oa2-server.dev.oclc.org> From: "Roggencamp,Steve" To: "'pdfdev@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDFdev] Anyone seen "C" FDF Toolkit work on Linux / Windows Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 10:01:38 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdfdev@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdfdev@lists.pdfzone.com Home: PDFzone.COM - 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ Email Lists: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html List Archive: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdfdev/ Help: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *Sponsor/Advt Opportunities*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com I don't know if my experiences are relevant to this problem, but I recently decided to get Adobe Acrobat Reader properly working under Netscape on my Linux RedHat 5.2 system. I had problems and it seems that the plug-in is looking for the "old" libc shared library, libc.so.5. You might try installing it in addition to the new glibc libc.so.6 shared library. I just started looking into this a day or so ago and I haven't had time to actually find and install the library, so you should treat the above as speculation at this point. When I get home tonight, I'm planning to actually test it out, so I may have some new tomorrow. Steve > -----Original Message----- > From: Aandi Inston [SMTP:quite@dial.pipex.com] > Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 1998 5:19 PM > To: 'PDFDev List' > Subject: [PDFdev] Anyone seen "C" FDF Toolkit work on Linux / Windows > > > Email Lists: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html > List Archive: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdfdev/ > Help: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com > *Sponsor/Advt Opportunities*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com > > > > > I am just starting some experiments with the FDF toolkit > on Linux (Red Hat 5.2). I have a simple program; it > compiles and links. Compiled with: > > gcc -o template_sample template_sample.c -lFdfTk -L. -lm -ggdb > > When executed, the shared library is found OK, but the > call to FDFInitialize() causes a segmentation fault. > This is the first thing called from main(). > > If I remove the call to FDFInitialize() it speeds through > the rest of the program, but doesn't actually write > anything. I've tried using gdb, but it doesn't seem > willing to divulge any information (if I use backtrace > there is no trace). > > Tried it on Windows too. This time it crashes on the FDFSave > call. Visual C++ 4.0. > > Any clues? If anyone has succeeded with this library, I'd be > interested to hear how their environment or experiences differ > from mine. Perhaps it only works in a web server environment? > > Thanks in advance, > Aandi > > > ____________________________________________________________________ > > PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" > > @ > __________________________________________________________________ ____________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ __________________________________________________________________ 10-Dec-1998 16:20:28-GMT,4308;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA28973 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 1998 09:20:22 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA25574; Thu, 10 Dec 1998 10:18:16 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 10 Dec 1998 10:16:59 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA25383; Thu, 10 Dec 1998 10:16:57 -0600 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19981210161714.00925a3c@env-sol.com> X-Sender: thiersch@env-sol.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 08:17:14 -0800 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Tom Thiersch Subject: Re: [PDF] re-setting bookmarks Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id KAA25379 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > I hope that by "default" you actually mean "Inherit zoom" (?) Can you cite the exact wording of the FDA requirement? I'm very interested in this, since bookmarks and links behave quite differently when it comes to default settings. The default view (magnification) for a newly-created "go to view" type of bookmark is whatever zoom setting was in effect at the time the bookmark is created. The default view (magnification) for a newly-created "go to view" type of link is "Fixed". Neither of these defaults works particularly well -- witness the number of commercial plug-ins that have been sold to create and manipulate the properties of links. Ideally, these defaults should be configurable as Exchange Preferences (maybe in the next release?) One reason why I often prefer to use "Open File" instead of "Go to view" links between documents is that the target document's File/Open settings are honored, and can't be arbitrarily or incorrectly overridden by the source document's link. This means that the same document will always have the same initial appearance, no matter how you get to it (for example, the author might want you the document to open automatically at a Table of Contents located on the last page). OTOH, you can't go to a destination within the target when using the "Open File" link, so there are trade-offs. Tom Thiersch At 06:38 AM 12/9/98 -0800, you wrote: >As an added note, the FDA requirements for NDA submissions are that all >bookmarks and links be set to "default", for the very reasons stated by Mr. >Lausseur. > > >Michel Lausseur on 12/09/98 05:33:33 AM > >Please respond to pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > >To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > >Subject: Re: [PDF] re-setting bookmarks > > >< ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > >Dean, >You should set your bookmarks with the "default" option instead of "fit >page" >or "fit width". This option will allow the users to adapt constantly >themselves the parameters suitable to the resolution of their screen and >the >nature of their job (quick viewing or comfortable reading) > >Dean Laffan a >écrit: > >> < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- >> >> >> Hi all >> >> I ahve a 250 page pdf with about 200 bookmarks done by a contractor. He >> has mistakenly set the view on all of them to fit page instead of fit >> width. >> >> Is there an easy way to do a global re-set ? Preferably just using >> Exchange. We run 3.1 on Mac and Win. >> >> TIA >> >> Dean Laffan >> Real World >> __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 10-Dec-1998 16:00:34-GMT,1911;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA28459 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 1998 09:00:33 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA23427; Thu, 10 Dec 1998 09:55:16 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 10 Dec 1998 09:53:33 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA23224; Thu, 10 Dec 1998 09:53:29 -0600 Message-ID: <03C184BB9CE6D111888A00A024621837117C7D@MCDC-CIN-2> From: "Doyle, Glenn" To: pdf-digest@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] PDF links under Microsoft Internet Explorer 4 Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 10:49:56 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > I have a series of PDF files that use PDF links to go from one PDF file to the next. When I use Netscape with the Acrobat Plug-in to open the PDF file (these files will be on a web site) , its works fine. But under Microsoft Internet Explorer 4, the PDF links do not work correctly. Any suggestions? Glenn Doyle GTD1@CDC.gov __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 2-Dec-1998 2:05:46-GMT,3024;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA02474 for ; Tue, 1 Dec 1998 19:05:40 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA02423; Tue, 1 Dec 1998 20:01:56 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 1 Dec 1998 20:00:17 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA02223; Tue, 1 Dec 1998 20:00:10 -0600 Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 18:00:01 -0800 (PST) From: Tom Mornini Message-Id: <199812020200.SAA06590@sun630mp.infomania.com> To: pdf-l@emrg.com, tmornini@sun630mp.infomania.com Subject: [PDF] ANNOUNCE - PDF in Prepress mailing list! Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > I am pleased to announce pdf-prepress-l. Earlier there were several messages on pdf-l indicating that people would prefer a separate mailing list for PDF use in prepress. I suggested that I could help, or perhaps run myself, a list for PDF use in high-end prepress environments. Response was very positive, so I decided to put back on my list manager hat, and set up a new list. The name of the list is pdf-prepress-l and it is located at InfoMania Printing and Prepress, a PostScript prepress house in Sacramento, CA. It is handled on a Sun server system, with the latest version of the free mailing list manager, Majordomo. To subscribe to the list, send e-mail to: In the body of the message, enter the text: subscribe pdf-prepress-l or subscribe pdf-prepress-d The second entry will get you a digested version of the list, which sends out a message once 200 lines of pdf-prepress-l accumulate. The list is setup to keep archives. I will put up a web interface to the archives later, but in the meantime they can be accessed as described in the Majordomo help file, which can be mailed to you by sending e-mail to: In the body of the message, enter the text: help and you will get a file describing all you need to know as a member of pdf-prepress-l and/or pdf-prepress-d. Thank you. I will send this announcement to pdf-l once a week to let newcomers know of this development. -- Tom Mornini -- InfoMania __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 10-Dec-1998 16:42:11-GMT,2233;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA29466 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 1998 09:42:05 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA27392; Thu, 10 Dec 1998 10:38:23 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 10 Dec 1998 10:37:08 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA27196; Thu, 10 Dec 1998 10:37:03 -0600 Message-ID: <000501be245b$5ac6e280$6f6f6f6f@power> From: "Jeff Basko" To: , Subject: [PDF] Autorun CD Installer Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 10:37:12 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Hello everyone, I'm creating a CD for a client which will have a complete listing of all of their products and pricing. I will to copy the 16-bit and 32-bit versions of AcroRead w/Search to the CD. Problem: I need a VB program (?) which will autorun, with a menu of: 1. Company Main Page (linked pdf) 2. Install Acrobat Reader Win3.1 3. Install Acrobat Reader Win95-98/WinNT 3.51-4.0 I'm not a programmer. Is there an *easy* way to do this? TIA Jeff Basko Basko Associates jbasko@basko.net __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 10-Dec-1998 16:42:21-GMT,2233;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA29474 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 1998 09:42:20 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA27382; Thu, 10 Dec 1998 10:38:21 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 10 Dec 1998 10:37:08 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA27202; Thu, 10 Dec 1998 10:37:05 -0600 Message-ID: <000501be245b$5ac6e280$6f6f6f6f@power> From: "Jeff Basko" To: , Subject: [PDF] Autorun CD Installer Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 10:37:12 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Hello everyone, I'm creating a CD for a client which will have a complete listing of all of their products and pricing. I will to copy the 16-bit and 32-bit versions of AcroRead w/Search to the CD. Problem: I need a VB program (?) which will autorun, with a menu of: 1. Company Main Page (linked pdf) 2. Install Acrobat Reader Win3.1 3. Install Acrobat Reader Win95-98/WinNT 3.51-4.0 I'm not a programmer. Is there an *easy* way to do this? TIA Jeff Basko Basko Associates jbasko@basko.net __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 10-Dec-1998 16:43:03-GMT,5356;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA29501 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 1998 09:43:02 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA27261; Thu, 10 Dec 1998 10:37:24 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 10 Dec 1998 10:36:05 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA27090; Thu, 10 Dec 1998 10:36:04 -0600 From: sgililland@nexstar.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: NEXSTAR To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <872566D6.005B561B.00@pigeon.nexstar.com> Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 08:36:13 -0800 Subject: Re: [PDF] re-setting bookmarks Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/mixed; Boundary="0__=Bpi6s5ArDFoeg1X4rlF2Az020vbNyuGBx9A77ZmGfjLAH8Nlg0U9JksE" Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > --0__=Bpi6s5ArDFoeg1X4rlF2Az020vbNyuGBx9A77ZmGfjLAH8Nlg0U9JksE Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Tom: You are right - the Document Info>open>magnification setting must be set to "default" and bookmarks and links are set to "Inherit Zoom" Tom Thiersch on 12/10/98 08:17:14 AM Please respond to pdf@lists.pdfzone.com To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com cc: (bcc: Sue Gililland/SanDimas/NeXstar) Subject: Re: [PDF] re-setting bookmarks < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > I hope that by "default" you actually mean "Inherit zoom" (?) Can you cite the exact wording of the FDA requirement? I'm very interested in this, since bookmarks and links behave quite differently when it comes to default settings. The default view (magnification) for a newly-created "go to view" type of bookmark is whatever zoom setting was in effect at the time the bookmark is created. The default view (magnification) for a newly-created "go to view" type of link is "Fixed". Neither of these defaults works particularly well -- witness the number of commercial plug-ins that have been sold to create and manipulate the properties of links. Ideally, these defaults should be configurable as Exchange Preferences (maybe in the next release?) One reason why I often prefer to use "Open File" instead of "Go to view" links between documents is that the target document's File/Open settings are honored, and can't be arbitrarily or incorrectly overridden by the source document's link. This means that the same document will always have the same initial appearance, no matter how you get to it (for example, the author might want you the document to open automatically at a Table of Contents located on the last page). OTOH, you can't go to a destination within the target when using the "Open File" link, so there are trade-offs. Tom Thiersch At 06:38 AM 12/9/98 -0800, you wrote: >As an added note, the FDA requirements for NDA submissions are that all >bookmarks and links be set to "default", for the very reasons stated by Mr. >Lausseur. > > >Michel Lausseur on 12/09/98 05:33:33 AM > >Please respond to pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > >To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > >Subject: Re: [PDF] re-setting bookmarks > > >< ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > >Dean, >You should set your bookmarks with the "default" option instead of "fit >page" >or "fit width". This option will allow the users to adapt constantly >themselves the parameters suitable to the resolution of their screen and >the >nature of their job (quick viewing or comfortable reading) > >Dean Laffan a > --0__=Bpi6s5ArDFoeg1X4rlF2Az020vbNyuGBx9A77ZmGfjLAH8Nlg0U9JksE Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable =E9crit: > >> < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 199= 5 -- >> >> >> Hi all >> >> I ahve a 250 page pdf with about 200 bookmarks done by a contractor.= He >> has mistakenly set the view on all of them to fit page instead of fi= t >> width. >> >> Is there an easy way to do a global re-set ? Preferably just using >> Exchange. We run 3.1 on Mac and Win. >> >> TIA >> >> Dean Laffan >> Real World >> __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ = --0__=Bpi6s5ArDFoeg1X4rlF2Az020vbNyuGBx9A77ZmGfjLAH8Nlg0U9JksE-- __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 10-Dec-1998 16:55:47-GMT,3141;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA29816 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 1998 09:55:46 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA29093; Thu, 10 Dec 1998 10:52:39 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 10 Dec 1998 10:51:25 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA28878; Thu, 10 Dec 1998 10:51:23 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19981210164756.00987100@gemini.herts.ac.uk> X-Sender: cimqsgt@gemini.herts.ac.uk X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 16:47:56 +0000 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Simon Tanner Subject: RE: [PDF] PDF file resolution In-Reply-To: <000801be2439$69f43360$0101c6c0@gateway> References: <3.0.5.32.19981210113935.00987100@gemini.herts.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > At 12:19 10/12/98 -0000, you wrote: > >> Does anyone know how to derive the exact resolution (dpi) of >> a PDF file >> when you do not know the Capture settings for it's creation >> or even the >> source image file resolution? I am thinking particularly for >> Image and >> Text PDF. > >Quite A Box Of Tricks (http://www.quite.com/box/) will do this, >as well as give the compression method and percentage. Many thanks this is exactly what I needed. > >> Also, can resolution in PDF files ever be considered to be accurate? > >In what sense? I was thinking about if I take a 600 dpi uncompressed B&W TIFF into image only PDF using the 600 dpi PDFWriter settings with no compression ratios etc set at all - will I get a 600 dpi image in the PDF or will I get an image that is representing 600 dpi (X by Y pixels) values but using smart PDF technology to fake the resolution i.e. is the PDF a pure image format file or inherantly lossy compression. However, the tool you have suggested will allow me to do my own assessment. Regards, Simon ======================================================================= Simon Tanner Email: S.G.Tanner@herts.ac.uk Digitisation Consultant (HEDS) Phone: 01707 286078 Higher Education Digitisation Service Fax: 01707 286079 University of Hertfordshire Web: http://heds.herts.ac.uk __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 10-Dec-1998 17:21:12-GMT,2363;000000000000 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA00459 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 1998 10:21:11 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA32735 for pdftex-list; Thu, 10 Dec 1998 11:20:42 -0500 Received: from relay.surfnet.nl (relay.surfnet.nl [192.87.36.2]) by tug.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id LAA32732 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 1998 11:20:40 -0500 Received: from wkaxp1.wkap.nl by relay.surfnet.nl with SN-SMTP (PP) with ESMTP; Thu, 10 Dec 1998 17:20:27 +0100 Received: from localhost (pc709.wkap.nl) by wkap.nl (PMDF V5.1-4 #29553) with SMTP id <01J56IG8CHKG008QW9@wkap.nl>; Thu, 10 Dec 1998 17:20:22 +0100 Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 18:20:40 +0100 (CET) From: Taco Hoekwater Subject: Re: depthcharge was: Ignoring pdftex primitives In-reply-to: <199812101528.PAA19636@nag.co.uk> To: David Carlisle Cc: rhowlett@mail.usyd.edu.au, pdftex@tug.org Message-id: <13936.744.833877.492710@localhost> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: VM 6.62 under 20.3 "Vatican City" XEmacs Lucid Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit References: <366F990C.E0AEC325@mail.usyd.edu.au> <199812101108.LAA19662@nag.co.uk> <13935.55760.930958.127305@localhost> <199812101528.PAA19636@nag.co.uk> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk David Carlisle wrote: It's so much fun ;-) For the original author: \pdfimage depth 15pt \noex..... etc also works, but \pdfimage depth 15pt\noex.... doesn't, because the scanner eats one of the \noexpands when trying to find the space after "pt" \pdfimage depth 15pt\relax\noex.... does not work because once again this sets the filename to "", and \pdfimage depth 15pt\noexpand\noex... is also OK. For David: you need three \noexpands because TeX is looking for three keywords in a loop that does not end until all three keyword searches return "false". You won't need more \noexpands until TeX can do typesetting in 3-d or colored rules, I guess. But for other images you need less: "widthcharge.png" needs only 1 \noexpand, "heightcharge.png" needs 2 (but more \noexpands don't do any harm). "./heightcharge.png" needs none, of course, but that's not portable across filesystems. Greetings, Taco 10-Dec-1998 17:36:44-GMT,1744;000000000000 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA00861 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 1998 10:36:11 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA00268 for pdftex-list; Thu, 10 Dec 1998 11:52:15 -0500 Received: from nag.co.uk (openmath.nag.co.uk [192.156.217.16]) by tug.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA00263 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 1998 11:52:05 -0500 Received: (from davidc@localhost) by nag.co.uk (AIX4.2/UCB 8.7/8.7) id QAA21782; Thu, 10 Dec 1998 16:49:33 GMT Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 16:49:33 GMT Message-Id: <199812101649.QAA21782@nag.co.uk> From: David Carlisle To: taco.hoekwater@wkap.nl CC: rhowlett@mail.usyd.edu.au, pdftex@tug.org In-reply-to: <13936.744.833877.492710@localhost> (message from Taco Hoekwater on Thu, 10 Dec 1998 18:20:40 +0100 (CET)) Subject: Re: depthcharge was: Ignoring pdftex primitives References: <366F990C.E0AEC325@mail.usyd.edu.au> <199812101108.LAA19662@nag.co.uk> <13935.55760.930958.127305@localhost> <199812101528.PAA19636@nag.co.uk> <13936.744.833877.492710@localhost> Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk > For David: > you need three \noexpands because TeX is looking for three keywords ah of course, yes. tex is only expanding looking for the first non acceptable token, so the number of \noexpands goes up one at a time rather than going up in powers of 2, as typically needed in an edef. so I should change pdftex.def to always add space and three \noexpands and an \@empty between the size spec and the file name, so that \includegraphics[xxx=yyy]{depthcharge} will work. It might even get in the release planned for 1998/12/01... David 10-Dec-1998 17:45:32-GMT,3174;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA01084 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 1998 10:45:02 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA01202; Thu, 10 Dec 1998 11:40:23 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 10 Dec 1998 11:38:26 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA00929; Thu, 10 Dec 1998 11:38:24 -0600 Message-ID: From: "Jessup, Samuel" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] AutoRun CD Installer Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 09:35:59 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Jeff, Try IndigoRose's AutoPlay Menu Studio at http://www.indigorose.com/ It only cost US$200 and it creates an AutoPlay engine with a customizable menu interface for your clients. Additionally, your interface is built using wizards, so it's stupefyingly easy. Samuel Jessup, Graphics Department Manager, LFR - Southwest Region 1920 Main Street, Suite 750, Irvine, California 92614 * 949.955.1390 mailto:samuel.jessup@lfr.com http://www.lfr.com -----Original Message----- From: Jeff Basko [mailto:jbasko@chicagonet.net] Sent: Thursday, December 10, 1998 8:37 AM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com; pdf-digest@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Autorun CD Installer < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Hello everyone, I'm creating a CD for a client which will have a complete listing of all of their products and pricing. I will to copy the 16-bit and 32-bit versions of AcroRead w/Search to the CD. Problem: I need a VB program (?) which will autorun, with a menu of: 1. Company Main Page (linked pdf) 2. Install Acrobat Reader Win3.1 3. Install Acrobat Reader Win95-98/WinNT 3.51-4.0 I'm not a programmer. Is there an *easy* way to do this? TIA Jeff Basko Basko Associates jbasko@basko.net __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 10-Dec-1998 17:49:28-GMT,3698;000000000000 Received: from tug.org (daemon@tug.org [158.121.106.10]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA01204 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 1998 10:49:14 -0700 (MST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by tug.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA00292 for pdftex-list; Thu, 10 Dec 1998 11:54:04 -0500 Received: from ccshst09.cs.uoguelph.ca (ccshst09.cs.uoguelph.ca [131.104.96.18]) by tug.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA00289 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 1998 11:54:01 -0500 Received: from msnet.mathstat.uoguelph.ca (msnet.mathstat.uoguelph.ca [131.104.32.59]) by ccshst09.cs.uoguelph.ca (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id LAA06424 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 1998 11:54:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from MSNET/SpoolDir by msnet.mathstat.uoguelph.ca (Mercury 1.40); 10 Dec 98 11:51:26 -0500 Received: from SpoolDir by MSNET (Mercury 1.40); 10 Dec 98 11:51:26 -0500 From: "William R. Smith" Organization: Math & Stats, University of Guelph To: pdftex@tug.org Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 11:51:16 -500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Minus signs don't print - problem solved In-reply-to: <366FC266.8AFE8009@wxs.nl> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.54) Message-ID: Sender: owner-pdftex@tug.org Precedence: bulk > William R. Smith wrote: [snip] > A quote on paper size from the pdftex manual (next version, to be > release as soon as sebastian approves of the english): > > \subsection[cfg]{The \PDFTEX\ configuration file} > > One has to keep in mind that, opposite to \DVI\ output, there is no > postprocessing stage. This has several rather fundamental > consequences, like one||pass graphic and font inclusion. When \TEX\ > builds a page, the macro package used quite certain has a concept of > page dimensions, which is not the same as paper dimensions. The > reference point of the page is the top||left corner. > > Most \DVI\ postprocessors enable the user to specify the papersize, > which often defaults to ``A4'' or ``letter''. In most cases it does > not harm that much to mix the two, because one will seldom put too > small paper in the printer. And, if one does, one certainly not does > do it a second time. In \PDF\ the paper size is part of the > definition. This means that everything that is off page, is clipped > off, it simply disappears. Even worse, just like in a \POSTSCRIPT\ > file, the reference point is in the lower corner, which is opposite > to \DVI's reference point. It's a much more important issue than just putting the right sized paper in the printer. The thread on the "minus signs problem" was based on the fact that minus signs "disappeared" in the printed version (on some, but not all, printers) of a .pdf file that displayed correctly on the screen. This caused considerable and fundamental problems for us here, and for the original poster. >From the original poster's comments, it seemed obvious that he/she would be telling the entire mathematics community to "forget about PDFTeX for mathematics". And we certainly don't want that, do we? :-) Maybe it would help if a sentence were added to the manual as follows: (after the following) > In most cases it does not harm that much to mix the two, because one > will seldom put too small paper in the printer. And, if one does, one > certainly not does do it a second time. In other cases, however (such as for mathematical documents), setting the page-size correctly (letter or A4) is absolutely crucial; for example, even tho documents display correctly on the computer, they may not print correctly. 10-Dec-1998 21:46:12-GMT,1880;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA26856 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 1998 14:46:01 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA22673; Thu, 10 Dec 1998 15:39:25 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 10 Dec 1998 15:34:49 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA22246; Thu, 10 Dec 1998 15:34:47 -0600 Message-ID: <000601be2484$9c24e820$ed04bad1@jeffbask> From: "Jeff Basko" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] AutoRun CD Installer Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 15:31:54 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > >Try IndigoRose's AutoPlay Menu Studio at http://www.indigorose.com/ >Samuel Jessup Thanks Samuel. I downloaded the demo. Jeff Basko Basko Associates jbasko@basko.net __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 10-Dec-1998 21:46:16-GMT,2956;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA26860 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 1998 14:46:15 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA23039; Thu, 10 Dec 1998 15:43:29 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 10 Dec 1998 15:40:57 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA22760; Thu, 10 Dec 1998 15:40:55 -0600 Message-ID: <367040AD.D12207EC@kiwi.futuris.net> Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 16:44:14 -0500 From: "Robert E. Moran" Organization: Digital Constructs Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF links under Microsoft Internet Explorer 4 References: <03C184BB9CE6D111888A00A024621837117C7D@MCDC-CIN-2> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id PAA22755 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Welcome to the inadequate world of Microsoft. Unfortunalely, Explorer does not handle PDF's as well as Netscape. Doyle, Glenn wrote: > < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > > I have a series of PDF files that use PDF links to go from one PDF file to > the next. When I use Netscape with the Acrobat Plug-in to open the PDF file > (these files will be on a web site) , its works fine. But under Microsoft > Internet Explorer 4, the PDF links do not work correctly. Any suggestions? > > Glenn Doyle > GTD1@CDC.gov > > __________________________________________________________________ > > PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" > > @ PDF Showcase: > __________________________________________________________________ -- Robert E. Moran Digital Constructs Inc. 759 North Park Avenue Redding, CT 06896 Tel 203-452-1116 203-452-8085 Fax: 203-452-0416 E-Mail remoran@dconstructs.com URL: www.dconstructs.com “Confusion is a misapprehension of a higher order” – Henry Miller __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 10-Dec-1998 23:08:07-GMT,2430;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA02647 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 1998 16:08:06 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA28903; Thu, 10 Dec 1998 17:02:32 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 10 Dec 1998 17:00:04 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA28598; Thu, 10 Dec 1998 17:00:00 -0600 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Autorun CD Installer Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 22:54:11 -0000 Message-ID: <000501be2490$cccf97c0$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <000501be245b$5ac6e280$6f6f6f6f@power> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > > I'm creating a CD for a client which will have a complete > listing of all of > their products and pricing. I will to copy the 16-bit and > 32-bit versions of > AcroRead w/Search to the CD. > > Problem: I need a VB program (?) which will autorun, with a menu of: > 1. Company Main Page (linked pdf) > 2. Install Acrobat Reader Win3.1 > 3. Install Acrobat Reader Win95-98/WinNT 3.51-4.0 One useful (and inexpensive) source of Autorun applications is http://www.powerup.com.au/~calypso. Windows 3.1 and NT 3.5 are not directly relevant in this context, because you cannot make an Autorun CDROM for these environments. Aandi __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 10-Dec-1998 23:08:26-GMT,3303;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA02645 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 1998 16:08:01 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA28902; Thu, 10 Dec 1998 17:02:32 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 10 Dec 1998 17:00:11 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA28653; Thu, 10 Dec 1998 17:00:06 -0600 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] PDF file resolution Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 22:58:49 -0000 Message-ID: <000601be2490$cf8f05e0$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19981210164756.00987100@gemini.herts.ac.uk> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > > > >> Also, can resolution in PDF files ever be considered to be > accurate? > > > >In what sense? > > I was thinking about if I take a 600 dpi uncompressed B&W > TIFF into image > only PDF using the 600 dpi PDFWriter settings with no > compression ratios > etc set at all - will I get a 600 dpi image in the PDF or > will I get an > image that is representing 600 dpi (X by Y pixels) values but > using smart > PDF technology to fake the resolution i.e. is the PDF a pure > image format > file or inherantly lossy compression. PDF is not inherently lossy. When you create a PDF file using PDFWriter, the DPI is not directly relevant, but it may trick the application into reducing the resolution to match PDFWriter. This is out of PDFWriter's hands. Then, at your choice, PDFWriter will reduce resolution (subsampling or downsampling). If this is off, the resolution is unchanged. Then the image is compressed. If you choose manual ZIP (8 bit) the image is compressed as if by PKZIP: it is preserved exactly as it was given to PDFWriter. If you choose JPEG, then JPEG-type compression is used which is lossy. This, however, does not affect the resolution. You still end up with an image of the same resolution. At some JPEG settings, colour values (but not brightness) are automatically subsampled, but they are averaged back on output. This is a completely invisible process and does not affect the image's final resolution. Almost nobody knows that this process happens. Aandi __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 10-Dec-1998 16:55:47-GMT,3141;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA29816 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 1998 09:55:46 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA29093; Thu, 10 Dec 1998 10:52:39 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 10 Dec 1998 10:51:25 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA28878; Thu, 10 Dec 1998 10:51:23 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19981210164756.00987100@gemini.herts.ac.uk> X-Sender: cimqsgt@gemini.herts.ac.uk X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 16:47:56 +0000 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Simon Tanner Subject: RE: [PDF] PDF file resolution In-Reply-To: <000801be2439$69f43360$0101c6c0@gateway> References: <3.0.5.32.19981210113935.00987100@gemini.herts.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > At 12:19 10/12/98 -0000, you wrote: > >> Does anyone know how to derive the exact resolution (dpi) of >> a PDF file >> when you do not know the Capture settings for it's creation >> or even the >> source image file resolution? I am thinking particularly for >> Image and >> Text PDF. > >Quite A Box Of Tricks (http://www.quite.com/box/) will do this, >as well as give the compression method and percentage. Many thanks this is exactly what I needed. > >> Also, can resolution in PDF files ever be considered to be accurate? > >In what sense? I was thinking about if I take a 600 dpi uncompressed B&W TIFF into image only PDF using the 600 dpi PDFWriter settings with no compression ratios etc set at all - will I get a 600 dpi image in the PDF or will I get an image that is representing 600 dpi (X by Y pixels) values but using smart PDF technology to fake the resolution i.e. is the PDF a pure image format file or inherantly lossy compression. However, the tool you have suggested will allow me to do my own assessment. Regards, Simon ======================================================================= Simon Tanner Email: S.G.Tanner@herts.ac.uk Digitisation Consultant (HEDS) Phone: 01707 286078 Higher Education Digitisation Service Fax: 01707 286079 University of Hertfordshire Web: http://heds.herts.ac.uk __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 10-Dec-1998 17:45:32-GMT,3174;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA01084 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 1998 10:45:02 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA01202; Thu, 10 Dec 1998 11:40:23 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 10 Dec 1998 11:38:26 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA00929; Thu, 10 Dec 1998 11:38:24 -0600 Message-ID: From: "Jessup, Samuel" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] AutoRun CD Installer Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 09:35:59 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Jeff, Try IndigoRose's AutoPlay Menu Studio at http://www.indigorose.com/ It only cost US$200 and it creates an AutoPlay engine with a customizable menu interface for your clients. Additionally, your interface is built using wizards, so it's stupefyingly easy. Samuel Jessup, Graphics Department Manager, LFR - Southwest Region 1920 Main Street, Suite 750, Irvine, California 92614 * 949.955.1390 mailto:samuel.jessup@lfr.com http://www.lfr.com -----Original Message----- From: Jeff Basko [mailto:jbasko@chicagonet.net] Sent: Thursday, December 10, 1998 8:37 AM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com; pdf-digest@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Autorun CD Installer < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Hello everyone, I'm creating a CD for a client which will have a complete listing of all of their products and pricing. I will to copy the 16-bit and 32-bit versions of AcroRead w/Search to the CD. Problem: I need a VB program (?) which will autorun, with a menu of: 1. Company Main Page (linked pdf) 2. Install Acrobat Reader Win3.1 3. Install Acrobat Reader Win95-98/WinNT 3.51-4.0 I'm not a programmer. Is there an *easy* way to do this? TIA Jeff Basko Basko Associates jbasko@basko.net __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 11-Dec-1998 0:00:32-GMT,3192;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA04241 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 1998 17:00:17 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA00409; Thu, 10 Dec 1998 17:58:10 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 10 Dec 1998 17:56:32 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA00239; Thu, 10 Dec 1998 17:56:30 -0600 Message-ID: <2E785084EBC0D111999900608C14A509E9E4CC@ExchangeMN2.ATK.com> From: "Mera, Jose" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" , "'jbasko@chicagonet.net'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Autorun CD Installer Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 11:45:00 -0600 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com *SPONSORS*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Alliant Techsystems' LibraryManager CD Edition can do what I believe you want, in a Windows environment. If interested in more information please contact me directly. Jose Mera DocMaestro Business Area Manager Alliant Techsystems, Inc. 13133 34th Street N. Clearwater, Florida 33762 tel: 727/572-2491 <-- new area code e-mail: jose_mera@atk.com web: http://ais.atk.com > ---------- > From: Jeff Basko[SMTP:jbasko@chicagonet.net] > Reply To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Sent: Thursday, December 10, 1998 11:37 AM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com; pdf-digest@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: [PDF] Autorun CD Installer > > > < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > > Hello everyone, > > I'm creating a CD for a client which will have a complete listing of all > of > their products and pricing. I will to copy the 16-bit and 32-bit versions > of > AcroRead w/Search to the CD. > > Problem: I need a VB program (?) which will autorun, with a menu of: > 1. Company Main Page (linked pdf) > 2. Install Acrobat Reader Win3.1 > 3. Install Acrobat Reader Win95-98/WinNT 3.51-4.0 > > I'm not a programmer. Is there an *easy* way to do this? > > TIA > > Jeff Basko > Basko Associates > jbasko@basko.net > > > __________________________________________________________________ > > PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" > > @ PDF Showcase: > __________________________________________________________________ > __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ 11-Dec-1998 11:13:53-GMT,4027;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA17589 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 1998 04:13:52 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA02552; Fri, 11 Dec 1998 05:09:22 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 11 Dec 1998 05:02:27 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA02206; Fri, 11 Dec 1998 05:02:26 -0600 From: Laura.Dietz@arcor.net X-Lotus-FromDomain: ARCOR To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <412566D7.003CDC27.00@slz-01-hub01.cni.net> Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1998 12:06:25 +0100 Subject: Antwort: [PDF] acroread? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/mixed; Boundary="0__=gJks4AoG2ndiBg5xiBa8pDv1NLVaAhhtGwuHfyeOl46ENLVezH5vxijh" Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > --0__=gJks4AoG2ndiBg5xiBa8pDv1NLVaAhhtGwuHfyeOl46ENLVezH5vxijh Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Hi Cynthia! When you are working under Unix environment, why don't you write some aliasses to the different absolute paths instead of putting them to you= path variable? (Or am I missing the question?) 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Einstufung: Arcor-intern = --0__=gJks4AoG2ndiBg5xiBa8pDv1NLVaAhhtGwuHfyeOl46ENLVezH5vxijh Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > hi, in unix the acroread is a command for acrobat+search and acrobat reader only. is there a way to differenciate these two in the command line? tks, --cindy :) __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" @ PDF Showcase: __________________________________________________________________ --0__=gJks4AoG2ndiBg5xiBa8pDv1NLVaAhhtGwuHfyeOl46ENLVezH5vxijh-- __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 11-Dec-1998 11:19:50-GMT,2100;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA17716 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 1998 04:19:49 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA02969; Fri, 11 Dec 1998 05:18:23 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 11 Dec 1998 05:15:43 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA02834; Fri, 11 Dec 1998 05:15:42 -0600 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: Antwort: [PDF] acroread? In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 11 Dec 1998 12:06:25 +0100." <412566D7.003CDC27.00@slz-01-hub01.cni.net> Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1998 11:15:34 +0000 Message-ID: <29126.913374934@isode.com> From: Chris Ridd Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > On Fri, 11 Dec 1998 12:06:25 +0100, Laura.Dietz@arcor.net wrote: > Hi Cynthia! > > When you are working under Unix environment, why don't you write some > aliasses to the different absolute paths instead of putting them to you= > > path variable? > (Or am I missing the question?) The Reader without Search is called acroread, and the Reader with Search is also called acroread :-) I think the only difference is that one installation includes the plug_ins directory containing the various search plug ins, and the other doesn't. Chris __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 11-Dec-1998 12:49:19-GMT,2185;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA19267 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 1998 05:49:18 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA07030; Fri, 11 Dec 1998 06:44:19 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 11 Dec 1998 06:42:00 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA06819; Fri, 11 Dec 1998 06:41:59 -0600 X-Sender: h.goldsmith@138.250.12.2 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1998 12:41:03 +0000 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Hayley Goldsmith Subject: [PDF] Problems? Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > I have a question and I hope that people of the list would be able to help me with their expertise. I am applying a watermark to some pdf's. The watermarking software has a recognised bug and I have to create the watermark in PDF Writer. (If distilled, when viewing the watermarked pdf the following message appears 'Could not find the Extended Graphics State named GS2') I need to know what sort of problems I can expect for a user, if I place a PDF Writer watermark on a Distilled pdf? There is no problems putting them together in the software. Many thanks for your assistance Hayley Goldsmith European Case Clearing House http://www.cranfield.ac.uk __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 11-Dec-1998 12:51:17-GMT,1617;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA19306 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 1998 05:51:16 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA07376; Fri, 11 Dec 1998 06:49:27 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 11 Dec 1998 06:48:16 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA07288; Fri, 11 Dec 1998 06:48:15 -0600 Message-Id: <199812111248.HAA07130@mime4.prodigy.com> X-Mailer: Prodigy Internet GW(v0.9beta) - ae01dm04sc03 From: RTWN75A@prodigy.com (MR ROBERT A RUTLEDGE) Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1998 07:48:02, -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] - Printing text notes on paper Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Is it possible to print a text note annotation (PDAnnot) in a PDF file onto paper? If so, how? thanks, Bob Rutledge __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 11-Dec-1998 13:23:28-GMT,1955;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA19904 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 1998 06:23:27 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA09359; Fri, 11 Dec 1998 07:19:46 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 11 Dec 1998 07:18:13 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA09205; Fri, 11 Dec 1998 07:18:08 -0600 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] - Printing text notes on paper Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1998 13:16:15 -0000 Message-ID: <001001be2508$87ffb1c0$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <199812111248.HAA07130@mime4.prodigy.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > 1. Summarise notes in Exchange (Tools menu). 2. Print the summary document. Aandi > > Is it possible to print a text note annotation (PDAnnot) in a PDF > file onto paper? If so, how? __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 11-Dec-1998 13:38:24-GMT,1998;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA20150 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 1998 06:38:23 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA10638; Fri, 11 Dec 1998 07:36:39 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 11 Dec 1998 07:35:12 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA10549; Fri, 11 Dec 1998 07:35:11 -0600 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] - Printing text notes on paper In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 11 Dec 1998 13:16:15 GMT." <001001be2508$87ffb1c0$0101c6c0@gateway> Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1998 13:35:01 +0000 Message-ID: <29451.913383301@isode.com> From: Chris Ridd Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > On Fri, 11 Dec 1998 13:16:15 GMT, "Aandi Inston" wrote: > > < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > > 1. Summarise notes in Exchange (Tools menu). > 2. Print the summary document. > > Aandi Just a by-the-by, but I find the summary document is always US letter size, regardless of page sizes defined elsewhere in the OS/printer driver/etc. This is (slightly) annoying for non-US users. Chris __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 11-Dec-1998 14:12:27-GMT,2214;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA20881 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 1998 07:12:26 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA13191; Fri, 11 Dec 1998 08:08:32 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 11 Dec 1998 08:06:55 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA13021; Fri, 11 Dec 1998 08:06:53 -0600 Message-ID: <19981211140631.123.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [153.37.238.202] From: "Bill Leslie" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Re: best method for screen captures MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1998 06:06:30 PST Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Hello to the list: I have a client that will be producing several manuals for software that the use and was asking me what the best way to do screen captures. The will be assembling the manuals in PageMaker and FrameMaker on PCs. Manuals will be printed for classroom materials and ultimately posted on their comapny web site as PDFs. I am asking the list for their recommendations on the best advice that I can give my client - methods, things to avoid, thing to watch out for, etc. TIA Bill Leslie Computer Services Manager Kinko's Inc. Research Triangle Park Durham, NC 27713 ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 11-Dec-1998 14:47:38-GMT,2924;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA21660 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 1998 07:47:37 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA15938; Fri, 11 Dec 1998 08:44:00 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 11 Dec 1998 08:42:18 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA15802; Fri, 11 Dec 1998 08:42:17 -0600 From: "Scott Hamlow" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Re: best method for screen captures Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1998 06:43:27 -0800 Message-ID: <000001be2514$9cfdb980$45a2fecc@scotth.fourgen.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2232.26 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <19981211140631.123.qmail@hotmail.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Bill, We write our software documenation in Frame on Win 95. We do our screen shots using the standard ALT+PRTSCN method (with monitor set at 1024 x 768 x 256 color), then paste into a graphic utility called LView Pro, where we save as a GIF 87a. The GIF format is suited well for screen shots, is usable for HTML pages, and is significantly smaller than BMP format. > Hello to the list: > > I have a client that will be producing several manuals for software that > the use and was asking me what the best way to do screen captures. The > will be assembling the manuals in PageMaker and FrameMaker on PCs. > Manuals will be printed for classroom materials and ultimately posted on > their comapny web site as PDFs. > I am asking the list for their recommendations on the best advice that I > can give my client - methods, things to avoid, thing to watch out for, > etc. TIA > --------------------------- Scott Hamlow Technical Writer - Base Technologies HK Systems (formerly Endura Software Corporation) Seattle, Washington USA http://www.hksystems.com mailto:scott.hamlow@hksystems.com 206.517.6487 --------------------------- __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 11-Dec-1998 16:43:02-GMT,2526;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA24336 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 1998 09:43:01 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA25539; Fri, 11 Dec 1998 10:38:03 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 11 Dec 1998 10:32:47 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA25003; Fri, 11 Dec 1998 10:32:45 -0600 From: Cynthia Hsieh Message-Id: <199812111632.IAA01191@pawnee.synopsys.com> Subject: Re: Antwort: [PDF] acroread? To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: Fri, 11 Dec 98 8:32:24 PST Cc: acrodevsup@adobe.com In-Reply-To: <29126.913374934@isode.com>; from "Chris Ridd" at Dec 11, 98 11:15 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > hi, i got one possible answer from acrobat developer support to check the plug-ins directory. So, I wrote the script like.... #! /bin/csh -f unalias acroread unalias acroexch set acroread_path = `which acroread` set acroexch_path = `which acroexch` #Make sure the Acroread with Search plugin set acrodir = (`grep ^install_dir $acroread_path`) set readerdir = `echo $acrodir | awk -F'=' '{print $2}'` cd $readerdir $have_search= `find $readerdir -name search.api` if ($have_search == "") then echo "Acrobat Search Option not found. " echo "" endif With that, you can embed the script in your installation process and prompt users that they have acrobat reader or acrobat+search in their environment. Tks and hope it help, --cindy :) -------------------------------------------------------------------- Cynthia Hsieh Phone: (650) 528-4769 -------------------------------------------------------------------- __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 11-Dec-1998 17:58:38-GMT,2111;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA26404 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 1998 10:58:37 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA00275; Fri, 11 Dec 1998 11:53:23 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 11 Dec 1998 11:51:25 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA32756; Fri, 11 Dec 1998 11:51:24 -0600 Message-ID: <50AD623B3637D211AC7B00805FEA0ACAA47A34@logixmail.saleslogix.com> From: Michael Cessna To: "'PDF-L'" Subject: [PDF] Frame - NT - WMF Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1998 10:49:58 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > I have an interesting problem; here's the criteria: 1. FrameMaker 5.5.3. 2. Distiller 3.02. 3. Windows Metafile. 4. Windows NT SP4. My "color" metafile is converting to "grayscale" when saving as a PDF. I've also tried saving it to a PS file...and then distilling, but no luck. I've tried different Distiller settings as well, including the "default" one. Anyone ever have a problem with this? Thanks. Michael Cessna Senior Technical Writer SalesLogix Corporation 602.368.2250 http://www.saleslogix.com mailto:mcessna@saleslogix.com __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 11-Dec-1998 18:02:13-GMT,2346;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA26506 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 1998 11:02:12 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA01023; Fri, 11 Dec 1998 12:00:07 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 11 Dec 1998 11:58:57 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA00831; Fri, 11 Dec 1998 11:58:56 -0600 From: Laurie_Coyne@mail.amsinc.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: AMSINC To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <852566D7.00605AD0.00@ams-central-gate-5a.amsinc.com> Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1998 12:53:01 -0500 Subject: Re: [PDF] Re: best method for screen captures Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > HyperSnap (formerly SnapShot/32) brings professional quality, convenient Windows 95 and NT screen captures to your finger-tips. It was designed for ease of use, with powerful and useful features to aid the professional as well as support the needs of the occasional user. Use it just a few times - you'll find it to be indispensable. I have used this to capture Windows in Windows 3.1/95/Nt and Unix environments. You have the flexability to capture a region, full window, partial window area, etc. The image is snapped into the HyperSnap program where you can save the image in a multitude of formats. The best way to get to know HyperSnap is to simply use it! You can view the website for product info and pricing information: http://www.hyperionics.com/ __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 11-Dec-1998 18:40:53-GMT,3450;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA27585 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 1998 11:40:52 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA04244; Fri, 11 Dec 1998 12:36:43 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 11 Dec 1998 12:35:17 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA04155; Fri, 11 Dec 1998 12:35:15 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.32.19981211133511.009672e0@ingress.com> X-Sender: janice@ingress.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1998 13:35:44 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Janice Prescott Subject: [PDF] smallest PDF files? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > I'm involved in a volunteer project of several dozen people who are digitizing a book archive of some 200 or so volumes. We are spread out literally over the globe, so our primary means of communication is e-mail. Few have access to fast modems or T-1 lines. We need to get the smallest possible PDF images of pages for proofreading purposes. Those who are scanning use an original cut copy of the book and scan two pages at a time, landscape, into OmniPage Pro. A file is made up of about 10 of these double-page spreads. This is recognized (OCR'd) and converted to a manuscript in MS Word for proofreading against the original. The manuscripts can be sent via e-mail to the proofreaders. The original, however, has to go by snail mail, at an average 3 to 4 days in the United States, more to other countries, or by prohibitively expensive express mail. What we want to do is preserve the OmniPage image in a PDF file and send that to the proofreaders. However, in my experiments, the best I have been able to do is to create a file of about 1 megabyte for each of these 10-page files. One megabye isn't so bad for a proofreader to download, but 20 such files for a book are a lot for the scanner to upload to a central repository. I would like to have each file be less than, say, 200K. Is that a pipe dream? The images don't have to be of a particularly high quality. They just have to be clearly readable as text. Here is what I've done: In OmniPage, I've printed the .met file (the native OmniPage file format) to Distiller 3.02 and distilled it. I've also printed to the Acrobat PDFWriter printer driver. They give me about the same size file-1.045 and 1.037 meg. I've tried "rebaking," as somebody in this group suggested (export to PS file in Exchange and redistill), but got the same size file. Does anybody have any ideas for how to get a smaller file? Thanks, Janice __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 11-Dec-1998 19:18:55-GMT,2299;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA28564 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 1998 12:18:54 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA07206; Fri, 11 Dec 1998 13:14:17 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 11 Dec 1998 13:12:26 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA07040; Fri, 11 Dec 1998 13:12:24 -0600 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.19981211133511.009672e0@ingress.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1998 11:06:37 -0800 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Todd Ruston Subject: Re: [PDF] smallest PDF files? Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > At 1:35 PM -0500 12/11/98, Janice Prescott wrote: > Here is what I've done: In OmniPage, I've printed the .met file (the native > OmniPage file format) to Distiller 3.02 and distilled it. I've also printed > to the Acrobat PDFWriter printer driver. They give me about the same size > file-1.045 and 1.037 meg. I've tried "rebaking," as somebody in this group > suggested (export to PS file in Exchange and redistill), but got the same > size file. > > Does anybody have any ideas for how to get a smaller file? What settings are you using for image compression? -- Todd Ruston | mailto:truston@libpubinc.com Computer Services Manager | Voice: 323.871.1225 x 3028 Liberation Publications, Inc. | Fax: 323.467.0173 __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 11-Dec-1998 19:50:22-GMT,2626;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA29314 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 1998 12:50:21 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA09864; Fri, 11 Dec 1998 13:44:36 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 11 Dec 1998 13:43:23 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA09680; Fri, 11 Dec 1998 13:43:21 -0600 Message-Id: <199812111943.OAA26762@fh106.infi.net> X-Sender: charles@matrixpress.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 X-Priority: 1 (Highest) Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1998 14:40:32 -0600 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Charles Richardson Subject: [PDF] MSW97 to PDF Troubles Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > I'm normally a FrameMaker user but have been given a large batch of MSW97 files that have to be coverted to PDF with bookmarks. I'm running NT4/SP3, Distiller 3.01, PDFMaker 1.0. I can get PDF files without bookmarks by using PDFWriter and by printing to distiller. I trying now to use PDFMaker. I've read the Adobe suggestions for configuring PDFMaker to get bookmarks, etc. My trouble is that Distiller consistently hairballs the job. The message log says: %%[ Error: rangecheck; OffendingCommand: pdfmark; ErrorInfo: Title GENERAL. Wood ...snip... ]%% Stack: /OUT [/FitH 660] /View 1 /Page (GENERAL. Wood ...) /Title -dict- %%[ Flushing: rest of job (to end-of-file) will be ignored ]%% %%[ Warning: PostScript error. No PDF file produced. ] %% I'm way out of my regular areas of knowledge and realize I may (as always) be missing some simple setup issue. Anyone experienced in these matters have some troubleshooting ideas? Thanks very much! Charles Richardson Matrix Press, Inc. FrameMaker and Acrobat Specialists __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 11-Dec-1998 22:04:58-GMT,4752;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA02726 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 1998 15:04:57 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA22716; Fri, 11 Dec 1998 16:01:02 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 11 Dec 1998 15:59:40 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA22561; Fri, 11 Dec 1998 15:59:37 -0600 Message-ID: <8B9FA2B2846ED2119665009027157DAD01EE72@RAIDSERVER> From: Duff Johnson To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] smallest PDF files? Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1998 14:00:26 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Janice: Try using Distiller (or PDFWriter) to downsample the images to 150 dpi, or even 100 dpi. Basically, experiment with downsampling until you have the min. dpi AND legibility is preserved. 72 dpi will sometimes suffice for text-legibility (although it looks NASTY). If your original images were at 300 dpi, you should see a big file-size savings. regards, Duff Johnson Document Solutions, Inc. 1611 Telegraph Avenue, Suite 1010 Oakland, CA 94612 PH: 510-986-0250 FAX: 510-986-0636 duffj@document-solutions.com www.document-solutions.com > -----Original Message----- > From: Janice Prescott [mailto:janice@ingress.com] > Sent: Friday, December 11, 1998 10:36 AM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: [PDF] smallest PDF files? > > > > < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM > since 1995 -- > > > I'm involved in a volunteer project of several dozen people who are > digitizing a book archive of some 200 or so volumes. We are spread out > literally over the globe, so our primary means of > communication is e-mail. > Few have access to fast modems or T-1 lines. We need to get > the smallest > possible PDF images of pages for proofreading purposes. > > Those who are scanning use an original cut copy of the book > and scan two > pages at a time, landscape, into OmniPage Pro. A file is made > up of about > 10 of these double-page spreads. This is recognized (OCR'd) > and converted > to a manuscript in MS Word for proofreading against the original. The > manuscripts can be sent via e-mail to the proofreaders. The original, > however, has to go by snail mail, at an average 3 to 4 days > in the United > States, more to other countries, or by prohibitively > expensive express mail. > > What we want to do is preserve the OmniPage image in a PDF > file and send > that to the proofreaders. However, in my experiments, the > best I have been > able to do is to create a file of about 1 megabyte for each of these > 10-page files. One megabye isn't so bad for a proofreader to > download, but > 20 such files for a book are a lot for the scanner to upload > to a central > repository. I would like to have each file be less than, say, > 200K. Is that > a pipe dream? The images don't have to be of a particularly > high quality. > They just have to be clearly readable as text. > > Here is what I've done: In OmniPage, I've printed the .met > file (the native > OmniPage file format) to Distiller 3.02 and distilled it. > I've also printed > to the Acrobat PDFWriter printer driver. They give me about > the same size > file-1.045 and 1.037 meg. I've tried "rebaking," as somebody > in this group > suggested (export to PS file in Exchange and redistill), but > got the same > size file. > > Does anybody have any ideas for how to get a smaller file? > > Thanks, Janice > > __________________________________________________________________ > > PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" > > send for more info: > __________________________________________________________________ > __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 11-Dec-1998 22:13:49-GMT,3827;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA02961 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 1998 15:13:48 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA23831; Fri, 11 Dec 1998 16:11:38 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 11 Dec 1998 16:10:17 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA23614; Fri, 11 Dec 1998 16:10:11 -0600 Message-ID: <8B9FA2B2846ED2119665009027157DAD01EE74@RAIDSERVER> From: Duff Johnson To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Need assistance re: Document Capture Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1998 14:11:02 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Dae-Hee: Did you make PDF/Image+Text files? Sounds like it. Search highlight mismatches on PDF/I+T files are a fairly common "feature" of the file-type. The search does work, rest assured, even if the highlight is displaced by a line or two, or a few words left or right. And.... yes you can use Capture to re-process existing PDF/Image+Text and Image Only files. But... your problem is not going to go away. It may be attenuated, but it is unlikely you will eradicate the issue thereby. Duff Johnson President, Document Solutions, Inc. > -----Original Message----- > From: Dae-Hee Lee [mailto:dhlee@marylandcomp.com] > Sent: Friday, December 11, 1998 1:13 PM > To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' > Subject: [PDF] Need assistance re: Document Capture > > > > < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM > since 1995 -- > > > > I have scanned and performed OCR of the TIFF files to create PDF files > which were then indexed and cataloged. I used an OCR program > other than > Acrobat Capture, and although the program seemed to work fine > on a single > article, I am finding that it is highlighting various words > other than the > actual "search word" when I search for a particular term > using the index. > My question is, do I have to go back and re-scan the > documents, or can I > perform an OCR on the PDF files that I already have using > Capture? I guess > I would have to utilize the "original image with hidden text" option. > > Also, is there an Acrobat Capture dealer near > Baltimore/Washington area > from whom I can buy the Capture program to work on this > problem over the > weekend? Thanks. You may contact me by calling me or > e-mailing me off the > list. > > Dae-Hee Lee > Director of Electronic Publishing > Maryland Composition Company, Inc. > 6711 Dover Road > Glen Burnie, MD > [410] 760-7900 x3020 (voice) > [410] 760-5295 (fax) > > __________________________________________________________________ > > PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" > > send for more info: > __________________________________________________________________ > __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 11-Dec-1998 20:21:05-GMT,3119;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA00087 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 1998 13:21:04 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA12706; Fri, 11 Dec 1998 14:16:40 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 11 Dec 1998 14:14:41 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA12497; Fri, 11 Dec 1998 14:14:39 -0600 From: Dianne_Duffy@infinium.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: INFINIUM Message-ID: <852566D7.006EED72.00@whqntse1.infinium.com> Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1998 15:14:18 -0500 Subject: [PDF] Netscape Communicator 4.0 and opening .pdf files from the Web Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Hi all, We received a call came from a customer who could not launch a .pdf file located on our web site. The customer has Windows 95 and Netscape Communicator 4.0. She had loaded Acrobat Reader. We had the customer open Reader from the programs group and it was indeed loaded and working properly (ver 3.01). But when their browser would come up with the screen that asks if you want to "open it or save it to disk" and automatically associate the file with Notepad and try to open it as a txt file. It was as if Netscape did not know of Reader and the .pdf definition. We opened Netscape Communicator 4.5 on a Win NT 4.0 sp4 machine here (which I had not yet used), and it did the same thing. It tried to "open or save to disk" the .pdf file as a txt file using Notepad. I have opened pdf files many, many times from our web site using IE4.0 and 5.0 Beta without a problem. We discovered that in Windows Explorer NT, Adobe Acrobat Forms document listed with a file association of fdf, but there was no entry for Adobe Acrobat Document listed with a file association of pdf. When we tried to create one it said that pdf was already used as a file extension for Textfile and that we would have to get rid of it. So we located Text file and it was associated with pdf. We deleted it and successfully added a file association called Adobe Acrobat Document with a file extension of pdf. We when re-opened Netscape Communicator and it worked fine. Any clues? TIA Dianne Duffy Developer of Publishing Systems Infinium Software, Inc. __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 11-Dec-1998 20:21:09-GMT,3816;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA00095 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 1998 13:21:08 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA13032; Fri, 11 Dec 1998 14:19:15 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 11 Dec 1998 14:18:09 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA12878; Fri, 11 Dec 1998 14:18:07 -0600 X-Sender: mmadenwa@seattle Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199812111943.OAA26762@fh106.infi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Priority: 1 (Highest) Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1998 12:18:36 -0800 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Marc Madenwald Subject: Re: [PDF] MSW97 to PDF Troubles Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Hello Charles, The error may be caused by the fact that PDFMaker and Distiller 3.01 can't handle the conversion of a heading to a bookmark if the heading in Word contains over 127 characters. You can either reduce the number of characters of the heading to less then 127 or you can download and install the Distiller 3.02 update at: http://www.adobe.com/prodindex/acrobat/acrdistiller.html as this version of Distiller should be able to convert more then 127 characters. You may also be interested to know that you can not convert more than 50 headings to bookmarks with the current version of PDFMaker 1.0. Regards, Marc Adobe Systems >< ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > >I'm normally a FrameMaker user but have been given a large batch of MSW97 >files that have to be coverted to PDF with bookmarks. I'm running NT4/SP3, >Distiller 3.01, PDFMaker 1.0. I can get PDF files without bookmarks by >using PDFWriter and by printing to distiller. I trying now to use >PDFMaker. I've read the Adobe suggestions for configuring PDFMaker to get >bookmarks, etc. My trouble is that Distiller consistently hairballs the >job. The message log says: > >%%[ Error: rangecheck; OffendingCommand: pdfmark; ErrorInfo: Title >GENERAL. Wood ...snip... ]%% > >Stack: >/OUT >[/FitH 660] >/View >1 >/Page > >(GENERAL. Wood ...) >/Title >-dict- > > >%%[ Flushing: rest of job (to end-of-file) will be ignored ]%% >%%[ Warning: PostScript error. No PDF file produced. ] %% > >I'm way out of my regular areas of knowledge and realize I may (as always) >be missing some simple setup issue. Anyone experienced in these matters >have some troubleshooting ideas? Thanks very much! >Charles Richardson >Matrix Press, Inc. >FrameMaker and Acrobat Specialists > >__________________________________________________________________ > >PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" > >send for more info: >__________________________________________________________________ Look for answers to the top Acrobat Issues at: http://www.adobe.com/supportservice/custsupport/SOLUTIONS/topissuesac.htm __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 11-Dec-1998 20:22:30-GMT,2877;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA00114 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 1998 13:22:29 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA13200; Fri, 11 Dec 1998 14:20:18 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 11 Dec 1998 14:19:12 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA13013; Fri, 11 Dec 1998 14:19:10 -0600 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] MSW97 to PDF Troubles Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1998 19:51:49 -0000 Message-ID: <001301be2541$e117fc20$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <199812111943.OAA26762@fh106.infi.net> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > I'm normally a FrameMaker user but have been given a large > batch of MSW97 files that have to be coverted to PDF with > bookmarks. I'm running NT4/SP3, Distiller 3.01, PDFMaker 1.0. > I can get PDF files without bookmarks by using PDFWriter and > by printing to distiller. I trying now to use PDFMaker. I've > read the Adobe suggestions for configuring PDFMaker to get > bookmarks, etc. My trouble is that Distiller consistently > hairballs the job. The message log says: > > %%[ Error: rangecheck; OffendingCommand: pdfmark; ErrorInfo: > Title GENERAL. Wood ...snip... ]%% > > Stack: > /OUT > [/FitH 660] > /View > 1 > /Page > > (GENERAL. Wood ...) > /Title > -dict- > My first guess would be that what you see being quoted is a paragraph in the document that is being added as a bookmark, but is very long. I don't know the limit, perhaps 128 or 255 characters. This can happen in word because of poor discipline with styles. A paragraph which is actually part of the body of the text acquires a style of Header1 (or whatever) and the user fixes that by just changing the font, not the style. Aandi __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 11-Dec-1998 21:20:39-GMT,2534;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA01660 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 1998 14:20:38 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA18238; Fri, 11 Dec 1998 15:16:01 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 11 Dec 1998 15:14:32 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA18090; Fri, 11 Dec 1998 15:14:29 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: kfoss@mailbag.com Message-Id: Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1998 15:13:04 -0600 To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" From: Dae-Hee Lee Subject: [PDF] Need assistance re: Document Capture Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > I have scanned and performed OCR of the TIFF files to create PDF files which were then indexed and cataloged. I used an OCR program other than Acrobat Capture, and although the program seemed to work fine on a single article, I am finding that it is highlighting various words other than the actual "search word" when I search for a particular term using the index. My question is, do I have to go back and re-scan the documents, or can I perform an OCR on the PDF files that I already have using Capture? I guess I would have to utilize the "original image with hidden text" option. Also, is there an Acrobat Capture dealer near Baltimore/Washington area from whom I can buy the Capture program to work on this problem over the weekend? Thanks. You may contact me by calling me or e-mailing me off the list. Dae-Hee Lee Director of Electronic Publishing Maryland Composition Company, Inc. 6711 Dover Road Glen Burnie, MD [410] 760-7900 x3020 (voice) [410] 760-5295 (fax) __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 11-Dec-1998 21:29:09-GMT,1989;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA01809 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 1998 14:29:08 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA19017; Fri, 11 Dec 1998 15:23:47 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 11 Dec 1998 15:22:17 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA18930; Fri, 11 Dec 1998 15:22:15 -0600 Message-ID: <000f01be254c$5c050e50$6f6f6f6f@power> From: "Jeff Basko" To: Subject: [PDF] Re: Autorun CD Installer Replies Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1998 15:22:25 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > My thanks to Aandi, Jose, Samuel and John M. for their timely and informative replies. It seems that Autorun is probably insufficient for my client's purposes now that Ive discovered the need to include the Mac and possibly Linux platforms as well. Thanks again! Jeff Basko Basko Associates jbasko@basko.net __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 11-Dec-1998 21:34:49-GMT,3361;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA01948 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 1998 14:34:48 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA19931; Fri, 11 Dec 1998 15:32:36 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 11 Dec 1998 15:31:14 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA19801; Fri, 11 Dec 1998 15:31:13 -0600 Message-ID: <36718FD4.33872770@kiwi.futuris.net> Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1998 16:34:12 -0500 From: "Robert E. Moran" Organization: Digital Constructs Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Frame - NT - WMF References: <50AD623B3637D211AC7B00805FEA0ACAA47A34@logixmail.saleslogix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id PAA19794 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > What printer driver are you using. If you are not running the distiller driver than a color printer driver is needed like the Apple Color laser printer. After selecting that, you should get color out of the image. Also, a good suggestion would be to convert the metafile to a lzw tiff -8 or 24 bit and do the PDF again. HTH Bob Moran Michael Cessna wrote: > < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > > I have an interesting problem; here's the criteria: > > 1. FrameMaker 5.5.3. > 2. Distiller 3.02. > 3. Windows Metafile. > 4. Windows NT SP4. > > My "color" metafile is converting to "grayscale" when saving as a PDF. I've > also tried saving it to a PS file...and then distilling, but no luck. I've > tried different Distiller settings as well, including the "default" one. > > Anyone ever have a problem with this? > > Thanks. > > Michael Cessna > Senior Technical Writer > SalesLogix Corporation > 602.368.2250 > http://www.saleslogix.com > mailto:mcessna@saleslogix.com > > __________________________________________________________________ > > PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" > > send for more info: > __________________________________________________________________ -- Robert E. Moran Digital Constructs Inc. 759 North Park Avenue Redding, CT 06896 Tel 203-452-1116 203-452-8085 Fax: 203-452-0416 E-Mail remoran@dconstructs.com URL: www.dconstructs.com “Confusion is a misapprehension of a higher order” – Henry Miller __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 11-Dec-1998 23:49:45-GMT,4441;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA05386 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 1998 16:49:44 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA00440; Fri, 11 Dec 1998 17:44:46 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 11 Dec 1998 17:43:00 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA00223; Fri, 11 Dec 1998 17:42:55 -0600 Message-Id: <199812112342.PAA08857@core.anacapa.net> From: "Marty Tryon" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] Netscape Communicator 4.0 and opening .pdf files from the Web Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1998 15:40:58 -0800 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1157 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Dianne, Also make sure the Netscape file Nppdf32.dll is moved from the Reader Plugin directory to the Netscape plugin directory. This also gives the added advantage of allowing the server to "byte range serve" the PDF files so the first page is viewable without having to wait for the entire document to download first. Be sure (with the reader) under File/General Preferences, you have the "allow background downloading of file" box checked. This is necessary for the byte range serving to take place. Hope this helps. Martin Tryon Rainbow Navigation mtryon@anacapa.net ---------- > From: Dianne_Duffy@infinium.com > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: [PDF] Netscape Communicator 4.0 and opening .pdf files from the Web > Date: Friday, December 11, 1998 12:14 PM > > > < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > > Hi all, > > We received a call came from a customer who could not launch a .pdf file > located on our web site. The customer has Windows 95 and Netscape > Communicator 4.0. She had loaded Acrobat Reader. We had the customer open > Reader from the programs group and it was indeed loaded and working > properly (ver 3.01). But when their browser would come up with the screen > that asks if you want to "open it or save it to disk" and automatically > associate the file with Notepad and try to open it as a txt file. It was > as if Netscape did not know of Reader and the .pdf definition. We opened > Netscape Communicator 4.5 on a Win NT 4.0 sp4 machine here (which I had not > yet used), and it did the same thing. It tried to "open or save to disk" > the .pdf file as a txt file using Notepad. I have opened pdf files many, > many times from our web site using IE4.0 and 5.0 Beta without a problem. > We discovered that in Windows Explorer NT, Adobe Acrobat Forms document > listed with a file association of fdf, but there was no entry for Adobe > Acrobat Document listed with a file association of pdf. When we tried to > create one it said that pdf was already used as a file extension for > Textfile and that we would have to get rid of it. So we located Text file > and it was associated with pdf. We deleted it and successfully added a > file association called Adobe Acrobat Document with a file extension of > pdf. We when re-opened Netscape Communicator and it worked fine. > > Any clues? > > TIA > > Dianne Duffy > Developer of Publishing Systems > Infinium Software, Inc. > > > > __________________________________________________________________ > > PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" > > send for more info: > __________________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 12-Dec-1998 2:58:23-GMT,2485;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA09034 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 1998 19:58:22 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA12742; Fri, 11 Dec 1998 20:54:18 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 11 Dec 1998 20:52:38 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA12595; Fri, 11 Dec 1998 20:52:37 -0600 Message-Id: <199812120252.TAA20172@smtp03.primenet.com> From: "Michael R. Cessna" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1998 19:51:29 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: [PDF] Frame - NT - WMF In-reply-to: <199812112343.RAA00250@everglades.binc.net> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Bob, > What printer driver are you using. If you are not running the distiller driver > than a color printer driver is needed like the Apple Color laser printer. After > selecting that, you should get color out of the image. Also, a good suggestion > would be to convert the metafile to a lzw tiff -8 or 24 bit and do the PDF > again. HTH I'm using the distiller driver Adobe recently provided for NT. Strange thing is, the other day I printed the same file and it came out correct! I've since discovered that others have had the same problem...even with Windows 95 (one day it works; the next it doesn't). Converting to a tiff is out of the question, since I need something that will scale well in a pdf document, and print sharp in a manual (the wmf has lots of text). Any workarounds for this problem?...besides using pdfwriter (which I've used successfully on this file). Thanks. Mike __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 12-Dec-1998 4:34:39-GMT,2880;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA10843 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 1998 21:34:38 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA18937; Fri, 11 Dec 1998 22:30:53 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 11 Dec 1998 22:29:07 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA18780; Fri, 11 Dec 1998 22:29:03 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19981211232836.0080dd80@ingress.com> X-Sender: janice@ingress.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1998 23:28:36 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Janice Prescott Subject: Re: [PDF] smallest PDF files? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Success. Thanks to all who offered advice. I changed the resolution to 150 dpi when I printed to the ppd for PDFWriter, and this made for a file of around 470K. It's not beautiful, but it is definitely readable and twice as manageable as a 1-megabyte file in a low-bandwidth environment. For the purposes of a volunteer project, in which cheaper is better, PDFWriter is a better solution. I tried a couple of other things that were suggested, including downsampling to 100 in the compression settings in Distiller 3.02, but it made no difference. (How could this be?) The only way I could get a small, readable file in Distiller was to change the settings for graphics to 144 dpi in the printer setup when making a PS file using the Distiller PPD. This gave me a slightly smaller pdf file than PDFWriter did. Again, thanks, Janice > Here is what I've done: In OmniPage, I've printed the .met file (the native > OmniPage file format) to Distiller 3.02 and distilled it. I've also printed > to the Acrobat PDFWriter printer driver. They give me about the same size > file-1.045 and 1.037 meg. I've tried "rebaking," as somebody in this group > suggested (export to PS file in Exchange and redistill), but got the same > size file. > > Does anybody have any ideas for how to get a smaller file? __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 12-Dec-1998 7:26:05-GMT,2690;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA14199 for ; Sat, 12 Dec 1998 00:26:04 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA27629; Sat, 12 Dec 1998 01:21:50 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 12 Dec 1998 01:19:51 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA27547; Sat, 12 Dec 1998 01:19:49 -0600 Message-Id: <199812120719.CAA10320@mime4.prodigy.com> X-Mailer: Prodigy Internet GW(v0.9beta) - ae01dm04sc03 From: RTWN75A@prodigy.com (MR ROBERT A RUTLEDGE) Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1998 02:19:13, -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: re:[PDF]printing text note annotation... Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > >> < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > >> >> 1. Summarise notes in Exchange (Tools menu). >> 2. Print the summary document. >> >> Aandi > >Just a by-the-by, but I find the summary document is always US letter >size, regardless of page sizes defined elsewhere in the OS/printer >driver/etc. Let me clarify what I am trying to do: Print a PDF file with the exact "sticky note" annotation with its little header and contents onto the paper. I know how to print the summary; that is not what we are trying to do in this case. I am thinking the only way to do this, if it can be done, is to alter the PDF document code in a text editor, but have not had success so far. Also, a related question: How do you create a text button annotation using Applescript? The PDAnnot item in the dictionary is good for text note annotations, but not text button annots, unless I am not using it correctly. I can script the text note annotations, but not print them on paper. I can print the text button annotations, but not applescript them! Would appreciate some guidance on either method; preferably the second. thanks, Bob Rutledge __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 12-Dec-1998 10:34:10-GMT,3309;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA17537 for ; Sat, 12 Dec 1998 03:34:08 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA03062; Sat, 12 Dec 1998 04:24:12 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 12 Dec 1998 04:22:48 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA02953; Sat, 12 Dec 1998 04:22:47 -0600 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF]printing text note annotation... Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1998 09:35:35 -0000 Message-ID: <001901be25b9$55804640$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <199812120719.CAA10320@mime4.prodigy.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > > Let me clarify what I am trying to do: Print a PDF file with the > exact "sticky note" annotation with its little header and contents > onto the paper. I know how to print the summary; that is not what we > are trying to do in this case. I am thinking the only way to do this, > if it can be done, is to alter the PDF document code in a text > editor, but have not had success so far. There is no simple or straightforward change that can be made to the PDF file, so far as I can see. A printable annotation looks very different from a regular one, AND must include all of the PDF page stream operators and resource dictionaries needed to get the object printed. Form fields aren't "magic", they are generated with a lot of extra code. > > Also, a related question: How do you create a text button annotation > using Applescript? The PDAnnot item in the dictionary is good for > text note annotations, but not text button annots, unless I am not > using it correctly. Text buttons, i.e. form fields, are not covered by the base API. The forms plug-in has its own API, but I don't think it is exposed to AppleScript. > > I can script the text note annotations, but not print them on paper. > I can print the text button annotations, but not applescript them! > Would appreciate some guidance on either method; preferably the > second. I don't think there is any simple way to achieve what you want to do. Adding text to a PDF, so that it prints, is not easy, even for an experienced plug-in programmer. Aandi __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 13-Dec-1998 16:44:10-GMT,2289;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA19311 for ; Sun, 13 Dec 1998 09:44:09 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA28134; Sun, 13 Dec 1998 10:38:33 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 13 Dec 1998 10:31:10 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA27609; Sun, 13 Dec 1998 10:31:08 -0600 X-Sender: prodok@pop.eunet.ch Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1998 17:31:59 +0100 To: PDF List Posting From: Max Wyss Subject: [PDF] Making PitStop more stable on Mac Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Are there any known procedures to make PitStop more stable on a Mac? Very often Exchange crashes when I am either opening or closing a PitStop window. I already have assigned quite a bit of RAM to Exchange (76 Meg). I have to do a lot of copying between documents. I know this information is not very complete, but I am a bit stumped and can't see what information would really be relevant... But anyway, I am grateful for any hint or trick to make things a bit more stable. Thanks in advance. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering AG Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch WWW: http://www.prodok.ch/prodok Bridging the Knowledge Gap __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 13-Dec-1998 18:08:38-GMT,2030;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA20791 for ; Sun, 13 Dec 1998 11:08:37 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA00798; Sun, 13 Dec 1998 12:04:14 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 13 Dec 1998 12:00:56 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA00577; Sun, 13 Dec 1998 12:00:55 -0600 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Making PitStop more stable on Mac Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1998 18:00:14 -0000 Message-ID: <000001be26c2$859ca8a0$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > Are there any known procedures to make PitStop more stable on a Mac? > > Very often Exchange crashes when I am either opening or > closing a PitStop > window... What have Enfocus tech support advised? Surely you have reported the problem to them? Aandi __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 14-Dec-1998 2:11:10-GMT,2184;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA29428 for ; Sun, 13 Dec 1998 19:11:09 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA25851; Sun, 13 Dec 1998 20:05:55 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 13 Dec 1998 19:58:50 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA25256; Sun, 13 Dec 1998 19:58:49 -0600 Message-ID: <36747062.88D4B334@ix.netcom.com> Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1998 18:56:50 -0700 From: Joshua Sharf X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Printing PDFs on the Fly Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > I am involved in a development project where a large amount of CD-ROM-based PDF infomration will be viewed through a browser-based application. The PDFs will be shown in a "content" frame alongside a "menu" frame. Is there a way to print the PDFs on the fly along with the "menu" frame? Even using a javascript popup to a new window would be all right, assuming that both the PDF and the HTML could be in the same frame, and so, printed together. Is there a way of converting the PDF to HTML on the fly, with having to distribute both HTML and PDF forms of the same information? Joshua Sharf Denver, CO jsharf@ix.netcom.com __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 14-Dec-1998 2:31:00-GMT,4363;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA29795 for ; Sun, 13 Dec 1998 19:30:59 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA27097; Sun, 13 Dec 1998 20:27:42 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 13 Dec 1998 20:22:23 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA26792; Sun, 13 Dec 1998 20:22:22 -0600 Message-Id: <199812140222.NAA27621@s3000-01.magna.com.au> X-Sender: larke@magna.com.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 13:12:13 +1100 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Annette Larke Subject: Re: [PDF] Survey concerning PDF users In-Reply-To: <19981115.153452.3438.1.dcmah@juno.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Suspect the result is because nerds have never liked PDF as it threatens their jobs. As a 6 hour a day NEt user I can assure you that anyone who is serious about net downloading and wants material they can cut and paste easily etc then PDF is a far superior product. Acrobat search functions also makes searching 100s of pdf on your hard disk very easy Don't trust a nerd survey - talk to ordinary users. At 03:34 PM 11/15/98 +0000, you wrote: >Email Lists: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html >List Archive: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ >Help: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com >*Sponsor/Advt Opportunities*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com > > > > >There was a recent survey, done on the programmer-oriented, interactive >website www.slashdot.org ("News for Nerds" is their slogan; much of their >audience includes Unix users and Windows haters), asking readers to pick >which format they preferred to read books/articles. Here are the results >(as of the time I checked) for each available choice: > > Question: "I prefer to read books/articles in the following format:" > ===================================================================== > paper 57% > PDF 4% > HTML 19% > Giant Stone Letters 10% > Text File 6% > ===================================================================== > Votes - 9,080 > >The voter comments area included hostile remarks about PDF and the >Acrobat Reader. > >My job involves editing database software manuals directed toward >developers, and our online doc medium is PDF, so I'm disappointed by >these results. (Curiously, my company's main Unix guy prefers PDF to >HTML.) At least it beat man pages! > >Comments? > >___________________________________________________________________ >You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. >Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html >or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] > >__________________________________________________________________ > >PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" > >@ PDF Showcase: >__________________________________________________________________ > Larke Services Pty LTd Sydney, Australia URL: http://www.magna.com.au/~larke/ __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 14-Dec-1998 8:20:59-GMT,2366;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA06598 for ; Mon, 14 Dec 1998 01:20:57 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA11824; Mon, 14 Dec 1998 02:16:18 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 14 Dec 1998 02:13:11 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA11665; Mon, 14 Dec 1998 02:13:07 -0600 From: fredrik.sjogren@folksam.se (Fredrik Sjogren) To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Making PitStop more stable on Mac Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 09:15:03 +0100 Message-Id: <000001be2739$d9d44960$1901090a@n11326p.intern.folksam.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > have you upgraded to 1.5.1? \\\fred > Are there any known procedures to make PitStop more stable on a Mac? > > Very often Exchange crashes when I am either opening or closing a PitStop > window. I already have assigned quite a bit of RAM to Exchange (76 Meg). I > have to do a lot of copying between documents. > > I know this information is not very complete, but I am a bit stumped and > can't see what information would really be relevant... > > But anyway, I am grateful for any hint or trick to make things a bit more > stable. > > Thanks in advance. > > Max Wyss __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 14-Dec-1998 11:12:25-GMT,3187;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA09633 for ; Mon, 14 Dec 1998 04:12:24 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA19213; Mon, 14 Dec 1998 04:58:10 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 14 Dec 1998 04:54:32 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA19032; Mon, 14 Dec 1998 04:54:31 -0600 From: Laura.Dietz@arcor.net X-Lotus-FromDomain: ARCOR To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <412566DA.003BBB16.00@slz-01-hub01.cni.net> Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 11:58:24 +0100 Subject: Antwort: Re: Antwort: [PDF] acroread? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Hi Chris, Although the filename is similar, the absolut path isn't. E.G. The Reader is available unter /usr/local/acrobat/reader/acroread while Reader with search can be found at /usr/local/acrobat/reader_with_search/acroread when you do NOT put both binaries in your path, but some softlinks named acroread_without and acroread_with_search pointing to the ressources, you will be able to differ between the two applications. Regards, Laura Dietz Chris Ridd on 11.12.98 12:15:34 Bitte antworten an pdf@lists.pdfzone.com An: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Kopie: (Blindkopie: Laura Dietz/FIO_EXT/Eschborn/Arcor) Thema: Re: Antwort: [PDF] acroread? Einstufung: Arcor-intern < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > On Fri, 11 Dec 1998 12:06:25 +0100, Laura.Dietz@arcor.net wrote: > Hi Cynthia! > > When you are working under Unix environment, why don't you write some > aliasses to the different absolute paths instead of putting them to you= > > path variable? > (Or am I missing the question?) The Reader without Search is called acroread, and the Reader with Search is also called acroread :-) I think the only difference is that one installation includes the plug_ins directory containing the various search plug ins, and the other doesn't. Chris __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 14-Dec-1998 13:37:55-GMT,5813;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA11493 for ; Mon, 14 Dec 1998 06:37:54 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA26894; Mon, 14 Dec 1998 07:30:38 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 14 Dec 1998 07:27:14 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA26668; Mon, 14 Dec 1998 07:27:08 -0600 From: "Michel Laurin" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Survey concerning PDF users Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 08:29:48 -0500 Message-ID: <000a01be2765$d2827de0$f6d0fdcf@poste-3.videotron.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2120.0 In-Reply-To: <199812140222.NAA27621@s3000-01.magna.com.au> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > I second that, my busines is almost based exclusively on PDF, I don't know about you guys down south, but in Quebec it really is starting to pick up. You find me a product slightly capable of doing HALF of the PDF capabilities for a lousy 400$ (retail CDA funds) that allows you to archive ALL your data on a server, allow users to access them for no cost and it works, good luck. And I am not even mentionning all the rest. Finally, some people will never understand, and in reality, you can never satisfy everybody... mlaurin@a2i.ca > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com [mailto:owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com]On > Behalf Of Annette Larke > Sent: 13 décembre, 1998 21:12 > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: Re: [PDF] Survey concerning PDF users > > > > < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > > Suspect the result is because nerds have never liked PDF as it threatens > their jobs. As a 6 hour a day NEt user I can assure you that anyone who is > serious about net downloading and wants material they can cut and paste > easily etc then PDF is a far superior product. > Acrobat search functions also makes searching 100s of pdf on your > hard disk > very easy > Don't trust a nerd survey - talk to ordinary users. > > At 03:34 PM 11/15/98 +0000, you wrote: > >Email Lists: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html > >List Archive: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf/ > >Help: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com > >*Sponsor/Advt Opportunities*: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com > > > > > > > > > >There was a recent survey, done on the programmer-oriented, interactive > >website www.slashdot.org ("News for Nerds" is their slogan; much of their > >audience includes Unix users and Windows haters), asking readers to pick > >which format they preferred to read books/articles. Here are the results > >(as of the time I checked) for each available choice: > > > > Question: "I prefer to read books/articles in the following format:" > > ===================================================================== > > paper 57% > > PDF 4% > > HTML 19% > > Giant Stone Letters 10% > > Text File 6% > > ===================================================================== > > Votes - 9,080 > > > >The voter comments area included hostile remarks about PDF and the > >Acrobat Reader. > > > >My job involves editing database software manuals directed toward > >developers, and our online doc medium is PDF, so I'm disappointed by > >these results. (Curiously, my company's main Unix guy prefers PDF to > >HTML.) At least it beat man pages! > > > >Comments? > > > >___________________________________________________________________ > >You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. > >Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html > >or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] > > > >__________________________________________________________________ > > > >PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" > > > >@ PDF Showcase: > >__________________________________________________________________ > > > Larke Services Pty LTd > Sydney, Australia > URL: http://www.magna.com.au/~larke/ > > > __________________________________________________________________ > > PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" > > send for more info: > __________________________________________________________________ > > __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 14-Dec-1998 13:42:46-GMT,2782;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA11557 for ; Mon, 14 Dec 1998 06:42:45 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA27584; Mon, 14 Dec 1998 07:40:43 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 14 Dec 1998 07:38:11 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA27320; Mon, 14 Dec 1998 07:38:00 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: kfoss@pdfzone.com Message-Id: Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 07:31:45 -0600 To: PDF-List From: Dae-Hee Lee Subject: [PDF] re: Search vs. Search with Index Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Folks, Is there a way to make the "Search with Index" behave like the "Search/Find" button? That is, can the settings in the Acrobat Catalog and/or Acrobat Exchange be changed so that the search using the index behaves exactly like the search within the document -- aside from the ability for the index to search multiple documents? The reason I ask this question is simple: In the series of PDF files I have created by using OCR on TIFF files, if I bring up a particular document and perform a search using the "Search/Find" tool -- the binocular -- it only highlights the search term like it should. When I use the Index created by Acrobat Catalog -- the binocular with document icon behind it --, however, it seems to highlight other extraneous words. I even tried re-building the index with all of the "options" turned off -- still did not help. If you could let me know how I can make my "Search with Index" behave like "Search/Find" while maintaining the ability to search across multiple documents, I'd appreciate it. Thanks. I hope I'm not asking for the impossible. Dae-Hee Lee Director of Electronic Publishing Maryland Composition Company, Inc. 6711 Dover Road Glen Burnie, MD [410] 760-7900 x3020 (voice) [410] 760-5295 (fax) __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 14-Dec-1998 14:48:33-GMT,2604;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA12500 for ; Mon, 14 Dec 1998 07:48:32 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA32029; Mon, 14 Dec 1998 08:43:31 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 14 Dec 1998 08:40:38 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA31846; Mon, 14 Dec 1998 08:40:36 -0600 X-Sender: prodok@pop.eunet.ch Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <000001be2739$d9d44960$1901090a@n11326p.intern.folksam.se> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 15:39:11 +0100 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Max Wyss Subject: RE: [PDF] Making PitStop more stable on Mac Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Fred, thanks for reminding me about that. Being a fairly new user of PitStop, I have version 1.5.1 -- the only version which does not choke on form fields. To the mailing list: It seems that PitStop does not like to handle more than one single document at a time. A workaround I found was to add the replacement pages to the document, and to copy them within that single document ... and then delete those unused pages. Not a very elegant solution, and time consuming, but certainly better than rebooting five times per file to be processed... Take care. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering AG Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch WWW: http://www.prodok.ch/prodok Bridging the Knowledge Gap ______________________ > >have you upgraded to 1.5.1? > >\\\fred > >> Are there any known procedures to make PitStop more stable on a Mac? >> __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 14-Dec-1998 14:58:50-GMT,1771;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA12670 for ; Mon, 14 Dec 1998 07:58:49 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA00635; Mon, 14 Dec 1998 08:55:58 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 14 Dec 1998 08:53:11 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA00059; Mon, 14 Dec 1998 08:53:08 -0600 Message-ID: From: "Alberstat, Mark" To: PDF Group Subject: [PDF] Opening a file in a specific folder Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 10:35:22 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Hello All, When I am in Exchange and I want to open a file the program opens to the Acrobat folder. Is there anyway to set this to another folder that I specify. Thanks. Mark Alberstat mark.alberstat@impgroup.com __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 14-Dec-1998 15:12:07-GMT,3066;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA12981 for ; Mon, 14 Dec 1998 08:12:06 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA02028; Mon, 14 Dec 1998 09:09:32 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 14 Dec 1998 09:06:51 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA01683; Mon, 14 Dec 1998 09:06:48 -0600 Message-Id: <199812141506.KAA07439@uakron.edu> From: "D.P.Story" Organization: The University of Akron To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 10:06:42 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: [PDF] Opening a file in a specific folder In-reply-to: X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01b) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > On 14 Dec 98, at 10:35, Alberstat, Mark wrote: > > < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > > Hello All, > > When I am in Exchange and I want to open a file the program opens to the > Acrobat folder. Is there anyway to set this to another folder that I > specify. > I'm not sure of your question, but I'll take a guess at the problem. If you are using the Forms 3.5 plug-in, the default folder will be changed to the plug_ins directory of the Acrobat folder. This is a bug in the Forms 3.5 release and will be corrected in the next version. > Thanks. > > Mark Alberstat > mark.alberstat@impgroup.com > > __________________________________________________________________ > > PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" > send > for more info: > __________________________________________________________________ > > Dr. D. P. Story dpstory@uakron.edu http://www.math.uakron.edu/~dpstory/ Dept of Mathematics and Computer Science / University of Akron / Akron, Ohio 44325 AcroTeX Site Overview:http://www.math.uakron.edu/~dpstory/acrotex.html Site Highlights: e-Calculus; Algebra Review in Ten Lessons; Mathematical Games; Pdfmarks:Links and Forms; Using LaTeX to Create Quality PDF Documents for the WWW and much, much more. __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 14-Dec-1998 18:53:01-GMT,2090;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA19111 for ; Mon, 14 Dec 1998 11:53:00 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA21082; Mon, 14 Dec 1998 12:47:55 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 14 Dec 1998 12:43:15 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA20597; Mon, 14 Dec 1998 12:43:08 -0600 Message-ID: <01BE2766.FB8509A0@c209-135-207-133.kivex.com> From: Dae-Hee Lee To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Problem Solved! Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 13:38:05 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id MAA20583 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > PDFers, The problem with regards to the Document Capture has been solved. Using Acrobat Capture (instead of the other OCR software) and the original TIFF files, I am able to obtain the PDF files that look and act correctly when searched using the index created through Catalog. Thanks. Dae-Hee Lee Director of Electronic Publishing Maryland Composition Company, Inc. 6711 Dover Road Glen Burnie, MD [410] 760-7900 x3020 (voice) [410] 760-5295 (fax) __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 14-Dec-1998 19:40:22-GMT,2841;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA21400 for ; Mon, 14 Dec 1998 12:40:20 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA25594; Mon, 14 Dec 1998 13:35:17 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 14 Dec 1998 13:32:35 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA25238; Mon, 14 Dec 1998 13:32:32 -0600 Message-ID: <2C396693FBDED111AEF60000F84104A7D23171@indyexch_fddi.indy.tce.com> From: Bakane Samir To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] PDF size, IE4, and NT Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 14:32:28 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Please help, I have a situation where PDFs on an Intranet web server (IIS 3.) with files sized larger than ~5 megs will not display correctly under IE4.01, on NT 4.0 (machines have 64+Mb ram) This is a problem regardless of machine processors, memory, or platform. It seem that files of this size and larger cause Acrobat to spawn, but then freeze. Task manager shows Acrobat as not responding, after the status bar for IE states "done". No amount of further waiting results in any improvement. These files are viewable if chosen directly from their network drives, but not when viewed under the browser, as a link in an intranet site. Other files that are smaller, work perfectly. I have tried optimizing, using an ftp server, a direct mapped drive call, placement at intranet site folder(url call), right clicking & opening in a new window etc.... None of this has helped. Does anyone have any advice as to why this is so? Is there a size limitation with this particular combination of software? Is there an easy solution to this? The machines all have Acrobat Exchange 3.0, and Reader 3.01. I apologize if this issue is documented somewhere, as I haven't been able to find much documentation on this subject. Thanks in advance, Sam Bakane Bakanes@tce.com __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 14-Dec-1998 20:35:34-GMT,2103;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA26704 for ; Mon, 14 Dec 1998 13:35:33 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA30121; Mon, 14 Dec 1998 14:31:04 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 14 Dec 1998 14:29:54 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA29975; Mon, 14 Dec 1998 14:29:53 -0600 From: robert.richard@hrdc-drhc.gc.ca Date: Mon, 14 Dec 98 15:04:57 -0500 Message-ID: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) To: Subject: [PDF] Pdf & fonts. X-Incognito-SN: 1396 X-Incognito-Version: 4.11.23 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > I am currently working on a project to put procedures manuals and telephone directories, for our telecentre, into pdf documents. Not having too much knowledge on them, what are the type of fonts that will give maximum readability in pdf documents? Less problematic? The newly created resources has been prepared solely with Microsoft Word 6.0. We have chosen the following type of font: Arial. It seems to work alright. Thanks for reply, Robert Richard Employment Insurance Telecentre 1735 Human Resources Development Canada Bathurst, New Brunswick. __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 14-Dec-1998 20:36:44-GMT,3587;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA26739 for ; Mon, 14 Dec 1998 13:36:43 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA30111; Mon, 14 Dec 1998 14:30:42 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 14 Dec 1998 14:28:25 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA29763; Mon, 14 Dec 1998 14:28:23 -0600 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19981214202246.00978bb4@env-sol.com> X-Sender: thiersch@env-sol.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 12:22:46 -0800 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Tom Thiersch Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF size, IE4, and NT Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Sam, The 4MB limit is a "known bug" in both Netscape and MS IE. The only cure at this time is to run the Acrobat Reader as a helper instead of as a plug-in. This bug is "documented", but whatever documentation exists is apparently well-hidden. Tom Thiersch At 02:32 PM 12/14/98 -0500, you wrote: > >< ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > >Please help, > >I have a situation where PDFs on an Intranet web server (IIS 3.) with files >sized larger than ~5 megs will not display correctly under IE4.01, on NT 4.0 >(machines have 64+Mb ram) This is a problem regardless of machine >processors, memory, or platform. It seem that files of this size and larger >cause Acrobat to spawn, but then freeze. Task manager shows Acrobat as not >responding, after the status bar for IE states "done". No amount of further >waiting results in any improvement. > >These files are viewable if chosen directly from their network drives, but >not when viewed under the browser, as a link in an intranet site. Other >files that are smaller, work perfectly. I have tried optimizing, using an >ftp server, a direct mapped drive call, placement at intranet site >folder(url call), right clicking & opening in a new window etc.... None of >this has helped. > >Does anyone have any advice as to why this is so? Is there a size >limitation with this particular combination of software? Is there an easy >solution to this? The machines all have Acrobat Exchange 3.0, and Reader >3.01. > >I apologize if this issue is documented somewhere, as I haven't been able to >find much documentation on this subject. > >Thanks in advance, > >Sam Bakane >Bakanes@tce.com > > >__________________________________________________________________ > >PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" > >send for more info: >__________________________________________________________________ > > __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 14-Dec-1998 20:57:15-GMT,3403;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA27278 for ; Mon, 14 Dec 1998 13:57:14 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA32334; Mon, 14 Dec 1998 14:54:43 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 14 Dec 1998 14:53:17 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA32146; Mon, 14 Dec 1998 14:53:16 -0600 Message-ID: <8B9FA2B2846ED2119665009027157DAD01EEA4@RAIDSERVER> From: Duff Johnson To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Pdf & fonts. Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 12:54:03 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Mr. Richard: I would strongly reccomend to you that you use Helvetica instead of Ariel for the following reasons: 1) Helvetica is a "base" font that need mot be embedded in the PDF. Ariel must be embedded, making each file larger by that amount. The file performance may also be adversely affected. 2) Ariel is a cheap knock-off of Helvetica anyhow. Many folks prefer serif fonts for text readability, and sans-serif fonts (such as Helvetica) for headlines, section headers, etc. Times is a standard (albeit boring) serif font for these purposes. Avoid TrueType fonts (ie, Times New Roman) as you would the plague itself! Duff Johnson President, Document Solutions, Inc. > -----Original Message----- > From: robert.richard@hrdc-drhc.gc.ca > [mailto:robert.richard@hrdc-drhc.gc.ca] > Sent: Monday, December 14, 1998 12:05 PM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: [PDF] Pdf & fonts. > I am currently working on a project to put procedures manuals > and telephone > directories, for our telecentre, into pdf documents. Not > having too much > knowledge on them, what are the type of fonts that will give maximum > readability in pdf documents? Less problematic? > > The newly created resources has been prepared solely with > Microsoft Word > 6.0. We have chosen the following type of font: Arial. It > seems to work > alright. > > Thanks for reply, > > Robert Richard > Employment Insurance Telecentre 1735 > Human Resources Development Canada > Bathurst, New Brunswick. > > > __________________________________________________________________ > > PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" > > send for more info: > __________________________________________________________________ > __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 14-Dec-1998 22:10:54-GMT,3820;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA29155 for ; Mon, 14 Dec 1998 15:10:53 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA06913; Mon, 14 Dec 1998 16:05:12 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 14 Dec 1998 16:03:24 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA06654; Mon, 14 Dec 1998 16:03:22 -0600 Message-ID: <6031CF804B89D111B9F00020AFD0D9A60251BE@mail.paravision.com> From: Vincent Huang To: PDF-List , Dae-Hee Lee Subject: RE: [PDF] re: Search vs. Search with Index Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 14:22:51 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Make sure you unchecked the Search Options (when you clicked the search button) such as "Word Stemming", "Sounds Like", "Thesaurus". You should get a cleaner search. Vincent Huang Paravision Imaging Developer of PageGenie 2000: Advanced Legacy Document Capturing for PDF Publishing and Archiving http://www.pagegenie.com ---------- From: Dae-Hee Lee [SMTP:dhlee@marylandcomp.com] Sent: Monday, December 14, 1998 5:32 AM To: PDF-List Subject: [PDF] re: Search vs. Search with Index < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Folks, Is there a way to make the "Search with Index" behave like the "Search/Find" button? That is, can the settings in the Acrobat Catalog and/or Acrobat Exchange be changed so that the search using the index behaves exactly like the search within the document -- aside from the ability for the index to search multiple documents? The reason I ask this question is simple: In the series of PDF files I have created by using OCR on TIFF files, if I bring up a particular document and perform a search using the "Search/Find" tool -- the binocular -- it only highlights the search term like it should. When I use the Index created by Acrobat Catalog -- the binocular with document icon behind it --, however, it seems to highlight other extraneous words. I even tried re-building the index with all of the "options" turned off -- still did not help. If you could let me know how I can make my "Search with Index" behave like "Search/Find" while maintaining the ability to search across multiple documents, I'd appreciate it. Thanks. I hope I'm not asking for the impossible. Dae-Hee Lee Director of Electronic Publishing Maryland Composition Company, Inc. 6711 Dover Road Glen Burnie, MD [410] 760-7900 x3020 (voice) [410] 760-5295 (fax) __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 14-Dec-1998 22:40:45-GMT,1919;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA00600 for ; Mon, 14 Dec 1998 15:40:44 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA09693; Mon, 14 Dec 1998 16:36:15 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 14 Dec 1998 16:34:44 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA09554; Mon, 14 Dec 1998 16:34:42 -0600 From: Cynthia Hsieh Message-Id: <199812142234.OAA05127@pawnee.synopsys.com> Subject: [PDF] index search within the same windows To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: Mon, 14 Dec 98 14:34:28 PST In-Reply-To: <6031CF804B89D111B9F00020AFD0D9A60251BE@mail.paravision.com>; from "Vincent Huang" at Dec 14, 98 2:22 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > hi, is there a way to display the results in the same window after you click the list in the index dialog? tks, --cindy :) -------------------------------------------------------------------- Cynthia Hsieh Phone: (650) 528-4769 -------------------------------------------------------------------- __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 14-Dec-1998 23:44:18-GMT,1813;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA02364 for ; Mon, 14 Dec 1998 16:44:17 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA14604; Mon, 14 Dec 1998 17:40:01 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 14 Dec 1998 17:38:11 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA14508; Mon, 14 Dec 1998 17:38:07 -0600 Message-ID: <15DC7B0FDBB2D111AF9F00A0C9A9C5A9D4A683@POSVM007> From: "Peoples, Kevin (i)" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] white bounding box in PDF Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 15:35:18 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Has anyone had the problem of Photoshop (tiff & EPS) or Illustrator images (with transparent backgrounds) presenting white, non-transparent backgrounds in PDF documents? I'm printing to a postcript file from Quark 4, and Distiling normally. __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 15-Dec-1998 0:35:02-GMT,2713;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA03700 for ; Mon, 14 Dec 1998 17:35:01 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA17790; Mon, 14 Dec 1998 18:30:57 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 14 Dec 1998 18:29:33 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA17634; Mon, 14 Dec 1998 18:29:31 -0600 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Pdf & fonts. References: From: "James H. Cloos Jr." In-Reply-To: robert.richard@hrdc-drhc.gc.ca's message of "Mon, 14 Dec 98 15:04:57 -0500" Date: 14 Dec 1998 18:29:18 -0600 Message-ID: Lines: 25 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.6.27/Emacs 20.2 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > There are a large number of fonts out there that work well at small sizes. For sans fonts, microsoft's verdana seems to provide excellent legibility (7pt at 100dpi and 9pt at 75dpi or 72dpi are completely readable even w/o anti-aliasing.) (Hey, sometimes throwing wads of cash at a problem actually works. :) For serif fonts, my favorite for low-res a/o small size text is Lucida Fax. Readability is very similar, to my eyes. Either would have to be embeded in the PDF to get maximal benefit if used at small sizes. Do use partial embedding, of course. Truetype versions of verdana can be dowloaded w/o cost from microsoft's web site. Lucida fonts are available for purchase from www.yandy.com. Each of the big type foundries seems to have at least one font designed for low-res and/or small point sizes, so you may find even better fonts out there, but these two are the best (of a reasonable though non-exhaustive list) I've loooked at so far. -JimC -- James H. Cloos, Jr. E9E9 F828 61A4 6EA9 0F2B 63E7 997A 9F17 ED7D AEA6 __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 15-Dec-1998 0:37:12-GMT,2197;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA03767 for ; Mon, 14 Dec 1998 17:37:11 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA18112; Mon, 14 Dec 1998 18:35:16 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 14 Dec 1998 18:34:12 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA18019; Mon, 14 Dec 1998 18:34:10 -0600 X-Server-Uuid: b0832e76-507b-11d1-9cee-00e0290993bc Message-ID: <6B3564D8EF82D2118D9B00E029273BCDEEC7@TFSMAMSG4> From: "Stabile, Jay" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] searching PDF's on Web Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 19:35:08 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) X-WSS-ID: 1A6B7368141164-01-01 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > A few years back I did a PDF CD project using Catalog- worked great for local use. Now, I'd like to set up all my pdf's for intranet AND extranet, so they may be fully searched with true results. >From what I can gather, web-based pdf's don't need to be Cataloged/Indexed. Must I still Catalog the PDF's for the Web search engine, or can the Web engine search or extracted PDF text, and free me of this Cataloging task? Has anyone done this who might offer a process overview or suggestions? Jay Stabile __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 15-Dec-1998 1:00:36-GMT,6860;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA04304 for ; Mon, 14 Dec 1998 18:00:35 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA19528; Mon, 14 Dec 1998 18:57:54 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 14 Dec 1998 18:56:15 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA19384; Mon, 14 Dec 1998 18:56:13 -0600 Message-ID: <01BE2808.6002D3C0@nathan.innosabah.com.my> From: Nathan Lim To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] searching PDF's on Web Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 08:53:22 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="---- =_NextPart_000_01BE2808.60139CA0" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > ------ =_NextPart_000_01BE2808.60139CA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Jay I had the same problem so I dug through my old mail and found this that = really helped me out. The following is an e-mail sent to this list = server a little while ago >We are running IIS 4.0 + Index Server 2.0 + PDF IFilter 1.1b. It was tricky to make it work, but now it works like a charm. > >Do the following: > >1- Be sure to download the last version (1.1b) of the pdf IFilter, >2- Stop the services, >3- Install PDF Filter 1.1b, >4- Manually add "pdffilt.dll" to the following key in the registry: > > HEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\system\CurrentControlSet\Control\ContentIndex\DllsToReg= ist er > >5- Start again your services, and reindex your pdf files (In the Index Server Management Console, right click on your pdf directory, and select "Rescan") > >We have used the standard sample search page, without any problems... > >And then it works!!! We set this up a couple of days ago and so far it works pretty well. If = you are interested in a good and cheap search engine I suggest you try = http://discovery.altavista.com/ for a free engine(I think its free). I = haven't used it but by all accounts its OK. If you want something else = I would suggest you go to the adobe site and check out their section on = Web Search Engines from third party vendors. 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Mon, 14 Dec 1998 18:01:10 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA19655; Mon, 14 Dec 1998 18:59:01 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 14 Dec 1998 18:57:57 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA19533; Mon, 14 Dec 1998 18:57:54 -0600 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] searching PDF's on Web Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 00:57:37 -0000 Message-ID: <000101be27c5$efebc840$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <6B3564D8EF82D2118D9B00E029273BCDEEC7@TFSMAMSG4> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > Now, I'd like to set up all my pdf's for intranet AND > extranet, so they may > be fully searched with true results. > > From what I can gather, web-based pdf's don't need to be > Cataloged/Indexed. > Must I still Catalog the PDF's for the Web search engine, or > can the Web > engine search or extracted PDF text, and free me of this > Cataloging task? It depends on the Web search engine. At least one - Verity's - uses (or can use) indexes. Others will do the indexing themselves. You aren't really freed of cataloguing. There will just be a different procedure to follow, making a different collection of indexes. I have seen some "search engines" which don't index, but search all files each time. These aren't suitable for large sites or high volumes, but may be OK on a small intranet run on an over-specified server. Aandi __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 15-Dec-1998 1:19:10-GMT,3104;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA04840 for ; Mon, 14 Dec 1998 18:19:09 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA20781; Mon, 14 Dec 1998 19:14:14 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 14 Dec 1998 19:12:58 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA20660; Mon, 14 Dec 1998 19:12:56 -0600 Message-ID: <3675B862.EC254DEB@kiwi.futuris.net> Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 20:16:18 -0500 From: "Robert E. Moran" Organization: Digital Constructs Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Pdf & fonts. References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id TAA20656 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > The Lucida font family is the most legible face for this kind of work. HTH Bob Moran robert.richard@hrdc-drhc.gc.ca wrote: > < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > > I am currently working on a project to put procedures manuals and telephone > directories, for our telecentre, into pdf documents. Not having too much > knowledge on them, what are the type of fonts that will give maximum > readability in pdf documents? Less problematic? > > The newly created resources has been prepared solely with Microsoft Word > 6.0. We have chosen the following type of font: Arial. It seems to work > alright. > > Thanks for reply, > > Robert Richard > Employment Insurance Telecentre 1735 > Human Resources Development Canada > Bathurst, New Brunswick. > > __________________________________________________________________ > > PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" > > send for more info: > __________________________________________________________________ -- Robert E. Moran Digital Constructs Inc. 759 North Park Avenue Redding, CT 06896 Tel 203-452-1116 203-452-8085 Fax: 203-452-0416 E-Mail remoran@dconstructs.com URL: www.dconstructs.com “Confusion is a misapprehension of a higher order” – Henry Miller __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 15-Dec-1998 2:51:03-GMT,2339;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA06786 for ; Mon, 14 Dec 1998 19:51:02 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA25677; Mon, 14 Dec 1998 20:38:34 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 14 Dec 1998 20:33:14 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA25272; Mon, 14 Dec 1998 20:33:07 -0600 Message-ID: <36766552.64D569F7@realworld.com.au> Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 13:34:12 +0000 From: Dean Laffan X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] error 14 References: <3675B862.EC254DEB@kiwi.futuris.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Hi All I have posted a byte served pdf of about 250pages. A client has reported flukey graphics, whereby they view the front page (only one in colour) OK but when they return to it there are large grey boxes in place of text. I viewed the file and it looks fine to me. She says the plug-in reports: Acrobat cannot open this file, error (14) even though the file has already loaded. She is using Netscape 4.04 Win 95 on NT Any ideas ? Could it be these errors relate to them trying to force the file to load pages which are not yet in, in this normally a problem ? Sorry if this is obvious. we do very little web stuff, mostly CD. Dean Real World __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 15-Dec-1998 5:14:28-GMT,1761;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA09459 for ; Mon, 14 Dec 1998 22:14:27 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA01997; Mon, 14 Dec 1998 23:08:54 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 14 Dec 1998 23:05:48 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA01715; Mon, 14 Dec 1998 23:05:46 -0600 Message-Id: <199812150501.AAA15934@mime4.prodigy.com> X-Mailer: Prodigy Internet GW(v0.9beta) - ae01dm04sc03 From: RTWN75A@prodigy.com (MR ROBERT A RUTLEDGE) Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 00:01:59, -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: re:[PDF]Printing text note annotations.. Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > >Text buttons, i.e. form fields, are not covered by the base API. >The forms plug-in has its own API, but I don't think it is exposed >to AppleScript. >> Thanks for the advice. That will save me a lot of time that would be otherwise wasted. Bob Rutledge __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 15-Dec-1998 7:42:20-GMT,2829;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA12631 for ; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 00:42:19 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA09049; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 01:37:42 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 15 Dec 1998 01:34:40 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA08885; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 01:34:38 -0600 From: fredrik.sjogren@folksam.se (Fredrik Sjogren) To: Subject: RE: [PDF] white bounding box in PDF Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 08:36:34 +0100 Message-Id: <000501be27fd$a4310e00$1901090a@n11326p.intern.folksam.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <15DC7B0FDBB2D111AF9F00A0C9A9C5A9D4A683@POSVM007> X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > check if you have set the background color to white in Xpress 4. if i´m not wrong it sould be black an 0 (zero) %. \\\fred > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com [mailto:owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com]On > Behalf Of Peoples, Kevin (i) > Sent: den 15 december 1998 00:35 > To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' > Subject: [PDF] white bounding box in PDF > > > > < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > > Has anyone had the problem of Photoshop (tiff & EPS) or Illustrator > images (with transparent backgrounds) presenting white, non-transparent > backgrounds in PDF documents? I'm printing to a postcript file from > Quark 4, and Distiling normally. > > > __________________________________________________________________ > > PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" > > send for more info: > __________________________________________________________________ > __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 15-Dec-1998 11:45:15-GMT,2419;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA16993 for ; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 04:45:14 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA19999; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 05:39:25 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 15 Dec 1998 05:35:34 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA19768; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 05:35:32 -0600 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] error 14 Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 10:31:56 -0000 Message-ID: <000901be281f$02c33f80$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <36766552.64D569F7@realworld.com.au> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > I have posted a byte served pdf of about 250pages. A client > has reported > flukey graphics, whereby they view the front page (only one in colour) > OK but when they return to it there are large grey boxes in place of > text. > > I viewed the file and it looks fine to me. > > She says the plug-in reports: > Acrobat cannot open this file, error (14) Depends what the error is from. If this is a Windows error code, it means "Not enough storage is available to complete this operation.". Worth asking whether a reboot helps, and how much RAM is installed, whether the disk (any disk) is almost full. But, the error code may be from Acrobat, or something else... Aandi __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 15-Dec-1998 12:53:19-GMT,2740;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA18194 for ; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 05:53:18 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA23344; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 06:48:36 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 15 Dec 1998 06:45:43 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA23169; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 06:45:39 -0600 Message-Id: <199812151236.NAA17168@faxserver.hueper.de> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Thomas Kempf" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 13:36:05 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: [PDF] white bounding box in PDF In-reply-to: <15DC7B0FDBB2D111AF9F00A0C9A9C5A9D4A683@POSVM007> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.53DE/R1) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Hi Kevin, I occasionally do have the same problem. Could be a bug in the Reader Software. If you zoom in on the document as close as possible, the box becomes transparent. When prinitng the same pdf-file on a ps-printer everything works fine. > > < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > > Has anyone had the problem of Photoshop (tiff & EPS) or Illustrator > images (with transparent backgrounds) presenting white, non-transparent > backgrounds in PDF documents? I'm printing to a postcript file from > Quark 4, and Distiling normally. > > > __________________________________________________________________ > > PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" > > send for more info: > __________________________________________________________________ > > > Mit freundlichen Gruessen Thomas Kempf Atelier Hueper im Bruehl 1 89520 Heidenheim Fon: +49 7321 61033 Fax: +49 7321 63234 __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 15-Dec-1998 14:56:10-GMT,2242;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA20448 for ; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 07:56:09 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA31554; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 08:51:34 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 15 Dec 1998 08:48:09 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA31128; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 08:48:01 -0600 X-Sender: whitec@nicanor.acu.edu Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 08:49:32 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Cade White Subject: [PDF] Best Image File Format for PDF? Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > I am new to this list and have found the discussions to be a great help. I have a question for the list: What is the best image file format for distilling into pdf? We are using MacPPC/Quark4.04/Distiller3.02. What happens if you use a file format that is already compressed, such as a TIFF w/LZW or JPEG, and then use ZIP or JPEG compression in the distilling? Are then some special advantages to making all images EPS? Thanks in advance for any information. _______________________________________ Cade White Instructor, Director of Photojournalism Abilene Christian University Box 27892 Abilene, Texas 79699 (915) 674-2295 cade.white@jmc.acu.edu __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 15-Dec-1998 17:07:02-GMT,3430;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA23563 for ; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 10:07:00 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA09260; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 11:02:31 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 15 Dec 1998 10:58:52 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA08955; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 10:58:50 -0600 Message-ID: <771AACB10656D111A01200805F8BA0D402119EA2@exchange04.comp.pge.com> From: "Cozzens, Danine" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Best Image File Format for PDF? Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 08:53:26 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > I too am new to the list, and joined to get help with images. My problem is that images placed in PageMaker 6.5 print OK from PageMaker, but when run through Distiller, the images appear gray and muddy. I've tried changing the image format and density, to no avail, and have also been downloading and applying various updates. I'd appreciate any recommendations about using images from the list. Danine Cozzens Internal Communications Pacific Gas and Electric Co. San Francisco, CA dgc3@pge.com > ---------- > From: Cade White[SMTP:cade.white@jmc.acu.edu] > Reply To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 1998 5:49 AM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: [PDF] Best Image File Format for PDF? > > > < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > > > I am new to this list and have found the discussions to be a great help. I > have a question for the list: > > What is the best image file format for distilling into pdf? > We are using MacPPC/Quark4.04/Distiller3.02. > What happens if you use a file format that is already compressed, such as > a > TIFF w/LZW or JPEG, and then use ZIP or JPEG compression in the > distilling? > Are then some special advantages to making all images EPS? > > Thanks in advance for any information. > > > _______________________________________ > > Cade White > Instructor, Director of Photojournalism > Abilene Christian University > Box 27892 > Abilene, Texas 79699 > (915) 674-2295 > cade.white@jmc.acu.edu > > > > __________________________________________________________________ > > PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" > > send for more info: > __________________________________________________________________ > __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 15-Dec-1998 17:40:31-GMT,4070;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA24382 for ; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 10:40:30 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA12088; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 11:35:32 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 15 Dec 1998 11:34:16 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA11960; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 11:34:14 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19981215124533.0084a100@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 12:45:33 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] white bounding box in PDF In-Reply-To: <199812151236.NAA17168@faxserver.hueper.de> References: <15DC7B0FDBB2D111AF9F00A0C9A9C5A9D4A683@POSVM007> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > I had something similar happen with EPS that included clipping paths. Printed to either of two printers, the results were fine. Printed to DistAsst and distilled to PDF, there were white borders around the edges of the clipping path, as though Distiller weren't quite getting the coordinates right. This might at least partially be my fault, as I created the clipping path at relatively high rez in Photoshop, then downsampled the image prior to saving as EPS. Still ... it did look good on the printers, after all. Zooming in on the image in Exchange helped, but never completely eliminated the white fringe. I ended up rasterizing the works with yet a third PS interpreter to a high rez file, checking it for fringing (none there), then downsampled it to the rez I needed and went from there with it as a simple bitmap rather than as a composite of several EPS clipped files. Worked a treat. > >Hi Kevin, >I occasionally do have the same problem. Could be a >bug in the Reader Software. If you zoom in on the >document as close as possible, the box becomes transparent. >When prinitng the same pdf-file on a ps-printer everything >works fine. > >> >> < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > >> >> Has anyone had the problem of Photoshop (tiff & EPS) or Illustrator >> images (with transparent backgrounds) presenting white, non-transparent >> backgrounds in PDF documents? I'm printing to a postcript file from >> Quark 4, and Distiling normally. >> >> >> __________________________________________________________________ >> >> PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" >> >> send for more info: >> __________________________________________________________________ >> >> >> >Mit freundlichen Gruessen > >Thomas Kempf > >Atelier Hueper >im Bruehl 1 >89520 Heidenheim >Fon: +49 7321 61033 >Fax: +49 7321 63234 > >__________________________________________________________________ > >PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" > >send for more info: >__________________________________________________________________ > > > Steve Rindsberg/Prez RDP http://www.rdpslides.com __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 15-Dec-1998 17:41:38-GMT,2261;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA24418 for ; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 10:41:37 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA12399; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 11:38:34 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 15 Dec 1998 11:37:21 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA12213; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 11:37:19 -0600 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Best Image File Format for PDF? Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 17:32:22 -0000 Message-ID: <001a01be2850$e6ec67a0$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <771AACB10656D111A01200805F8BA0D402119EA2@exchange04.comp.pge.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > My problem is that images placed in PageMaker 6.5 print OK > from PageMaker, > but when run through Distiller, the images appear gray and > muddy. I've tried > changing the image format and density, to no avail, and have also been > downloading and applying various updates. I'd appreciate any > recommendations > about using images from the list. What Distiller compression options are you selecting? List all the settings on the compression screen. Aandi __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 15-Dec-1998 17:41:48-GMT,4439;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA24426 for ; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 10:41:47 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA12413; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 11:38:47 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 15 Dec 1998 11:37:43 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA12261; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 11:37:41 -0600 X-Sender: whitec@nicanor.acu.edu Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <771AACB10656D111A01200805F8BA0D402119EA2@exchange04.comp.pge.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 11:39:14 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Cade White Subject: RE: [PDF] Best Image File Format for PDF? Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > I should also note that we are paying a lot of attention to resolution and halftone screen frequency, but as Danine noted, we too have experienced inconsistant results. I don't know how Photoshop 5's new color space controls will effect images placed in page layout apps. Will the next level of PDF support ICC profiles and ColorSync? >< ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > >I too am new to the list, and joined to get help with images. > >My problem is that images placed in PageMaker 6.5 print OK from PageMaker, >but when run through Distiller, the images appear gray and muddy. I've tried >changing the image format and density, to no avail, and have also been >downloading and applying various updates. I'd appreciate any recommendations >about using images from the list. > > Danine Cozzens > Internal Communications > Pacific Gas and Electric Co. > San Francisco, CA > dgc3@pge.com > > >> ---------- >> From: Cade White[SMTP:cade.white@jmc.acu.edu] >> Reply To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com >> Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 1998 5:49 AM >> To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com >> Subject: [PDF] Best Image File Format for PDF? >> >> >> < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > >> >> >> I am new to this list and have found the discussions to be a great help. I >> have a question for the list: >> >> What is the best image file format for distilling into pdf? >> We are using MacPPC/Quark4.04/Distiller3.02. >> What happens if you use a file format that is already compressed, such as >> a >> TIFF w/LZW or JPEG, and then use ZIP or JPEG compression in the >> distilling? >> Are then some special advantages to making all images EPS? >> >> Thanks in advance for any information. >> >> >> _______________________________________ >> >> Cade White >> Instructor, Director of Photojournalism >> Abilene Christian University >> Box 27892 >> Abilene, Texas 79699 >> (915) 674-2295 >> cade.white@jmc.acu.edu >> >> >> >> __________________________________________________________________ >> >> PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" >> >> send for more info: >> __________________________________________________________________ >> > >__________________________________________________________________ > >PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" > >send for more info: >__________________________________________________________________ _______________________________________ Cade White Instructor, Director of Photojournalism Abilene Christian University Box 27892 Abilene, Texas 79699 (915) 674-2295 cade.white@jmc.acu.edu __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 15-Dec-1998 19:27:04-GMT,3216;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA27083 for ; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 12:27:03 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA19918; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 13:21:59 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 15 Dec 1998 13:16:11 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA19415; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 13:16:09 -0600 Message-ID: <3676B643.23D609B3@kiwi.futuris.net> Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 14:19:31 -0500 From: "Robert E. Moran" Organization: Digital Constructs Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Best Image File Format for PDF? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id NAA19411 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Do not use jpeg. It creats all kinds of problems. LZW tiffs are fine but not JPEGS. HTH Cade White wrote: > < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > > I am new to this list and have found the discussions to be a great help. I > have a question for the list: > > What is the best image file format for distilling into pdf? > We are using MacPPC/Quark4.04/Distiller3.02. > What happens if you use a file format that is already compressed, such as a > TIFF w/LZW or JPEG, and then use ZIP or JPEG compression in the distilling? > Are then some special advantages to making all images EPS? > > Thanks in advance for any information. > > _______________________________________ > > Cade White > Instructor, Director of Photojournalism > Abilene Christian University > Box 27892 > Abilene, Texas 79699 > (915) 674-2295 > cade.white@jmc.acu.edu > > __________________________________________________________________ > > PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" > > send for more info: > __________________________________________________________________ -- Robert E. Moran Digital Constructs Inc. 759 North Park Avenue Redding, CT 06896 Tel 203-452-1116 203-452-8085 Fax: 203-452-0416 E-Mail remoran@dconstructs.com URL: www.dconstructs.com “Confusion is a misapprehension of a higher order” – Henry Miller __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 15-Dec-1998 19:43:48-GMT,2412;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA27539 for ; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 12:43:47 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA21632; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 13:41:13 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 15 Dec 1998 13:39:45 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA21474; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 13:39:43 -0600 From: Charles_Richardson@vapower.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: VANCPOWER To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <852566DB.006BFEB2.00@ojsmtpmta02.vapower.com> Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 14:39:12 -0500 Subject: [PDF] Miniature Pages Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > I've recently started getting PDF files that are 25% of the original page size. Several files will distill okay, then the next and subsequent files will come out at 25% (actual page size, not viewer zoom values). I'm printing from FrameMaker 5.5.6 on NT4/SP3, with Adobe PS5.01 driver, and distilling with 3.02. The Scale settings in FM and in the driver setup are both at 100%. I tried printing at 400% just to see what would happen. I got the *correct* size page with the (clipped) content at 400%. When the driver setup was set back to 100%, the next attempt produced the correct page size *one time,* but subsequent attempts with the same settings all produced pages at 25% size. I cannot say for certain whether this behavior started at the same time I updated from FM5.5. Does someone have an idea what might be causing the size change? Thanks. Charles Richardson __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 15-Dec-1998 21:24:31-GMT,1868;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA01310 for ; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 14:24:30 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA29604; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 15:19:47 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 15 Dec 1998 15:18:01 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA29452; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 15:17:59 -0600 From: "Dan O'Connor" To: "PDF List" Subject: [PDF] Java Script Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 15:17:04 -0600 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1162 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Working the PDF Forms, I need to custom format a field to either accept only Upper Case or convert entries to Upper Case. Does anyone know where I might find a script to do this? I'm not a programmer -- and would rather not become one! No offense intended. __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 15-Dec-1998 23:57:47-GMT,2026;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA06892 for ; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 16:57:46 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA08324; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 17:53:08 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 15 Dec 1998 17:50:58 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA08174; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 17:50:56 -0600 From: Cynthia Hsieh Message-Id: <199812152350.PAA06411@pawnee.synopsys.com> Subject: [PDF] index window control To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: Tue, 15 Dec 98 23:50:42 PST In-Reply-To: <01BE2808.6002D3C0@nathan.innosabah.com.my>; from "Nathan Lim" at Dec 15, 98 8:53 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > hi, in unix, when you clicked on the link in the search results dialog, it always bring up the new window. when you clicked on the other link it will bring up the other window...... is there a way to control this and display the link in the same window? --cindy :) -------------------------------------------------------------------- Cynthia Hsieh Phone: (650) 528-4769 -------------------------------------------------------------------- __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 15-Dec-1998 23:58:38-GMT,3256;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA06907 for ; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 16:58:37 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA08445; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 17:54:56 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 15 Dec 1998 17:53:45 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA08349; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 17:53:44 -0600 Content-return: allowed Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 15:48:39 -0800 From: "Cutler, Wendy MHR:EX" Subject: FW: [PDF] Java Script To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Message-id: <2B38D2AA1790D1119BB200805F1529E87ABF7C@jet.bcsc.gov.bc.ca> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > A Netscape Navigator tip last month was this: This Web site is a "cut & paste" resource for hundreds of free JavaScripts. You'll find JavaScripts for buttons, calculators, cookies, foldertrees, forms, messages, site navigation, and much more. Scripts are categorized, so they're easy to find, and each script is shown with a working demonstration. The JavaScript Source Web site is located at http://www.javascriptsource.com/ I haven't been there myself. * ^ * ^ * Wendy Cutler, Project Co-ordinator, Application Devl & Support ITB, Ministry of Human Resources (604) 660-1591 > mailto:Wendy.Cutler@gems2.gov.bc.ca from OV: EXCH01(wcutler) -----Original Message----- From: Dan O'Connor [mailto:doconnor@amfam.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 1998 1:17 PM To: PDF List Subject: [PDF] Java Script < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Working the PDF Forms, I need to custom format a field to either accept only Upper Case or convert entries to Upper Case. Does anyone know where I might find a script to do this? I'm not a programmer -- and would rather not become one! No offense intended. __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 16-Dec-1998 0:34:48-GMT,2578;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA07807 for ; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 17:34:46 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA10749; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 18:30:18 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 15 Dec 1998 18:29:04 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA10512; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 18:28:58 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: kfoss@mailbag.com Message-Id: Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 17:29:36 -0600 To: PDF@lists.pdfzone.com From: Kurt Foss Subject: [PDF] ANNOUNCING: Acrobat Reader 4.0 BETA Test Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > We are pleased to announce that PDFzone.COM is hosting an expansion of the testing of Adobe Acrobat Reader 4.0 BETA software. The four-week project begins today. Detailed information, including a Beta Project FAQ, is available at: http://www.pdfzone.com/ Interested participants will need to download, print, complete and fax to Adobe a signed confidentiality agreement form to Adobe before being allowed to download the beta software from PDFzone.COM. As this software is pre-release, no discussion among participants should occur on any of the PDFzone.COM-hosted email lists (or other lists and newsgroups, for that matter). rgds ~ Kurt __________________________________________________ * P D F z o n e . C O M * "An Independent Hub to All Things PDF" __________________________________________________ 579 D'Onofrio Dr. 608/829-0183 Suite 104 EMAIL: mailto:info@pdfzone.com Madison, WI 53719 WWW: http://www.pdfzone.com ------------------------------------------------------------ __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 16-Dec-1998 1:38:10-GMT,1952;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA09231 for ; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 18:38:09 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA14610; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 19:33:44 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 15 Dec 1998 19:30:33 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA14449; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 19:30:30 -0600 Message-Id: <199812160130.SAA12562@tmpil001.tmp.allied.com> From: "Callaway, Rebecca" To: "'Post to PDF listserve'" Cc: Dov Isaacs Subject: [PDF] superatm.db missing? Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 18:30:00 -0700 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > HI - I think superatm.db is the data base that Super ATM looks at when doing font substitution. This box is checked on my Super ATM preferences, but a line beneath it says "database missing". I have another old note from this list that mentions superatm.db. Is this the database I need that is missing? Where can I get it? Is not font substitution occuring without it? thanks!! Rebecca __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 16-Dec-1998 5:04:48-GMT,2109;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA13126 for ; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 22:04:47 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA26580; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 22:57:35 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 15 Dec 1998 22:54:52 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA26424; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 22:54:50 -0600 Message-ID: <3677D80E.6178264D@realworld.com.au> Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 15:56:00 +0000 From: Dean Laffan X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Bookmarks Vol II References: <8B9FA2B2846ED2119665009027157DAD01EEA4@RAIDSERVER> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Thanks to those who responded on my last question, now here's two more. I remember a thread earlier this year about setting the width of the bookmark window to allow complete reading of the longest bookmark. Was that embedded in the pdf file so all users get the expanded view and if so how ? Also, if we want to print the entire selection of bookmark text, (not the actual links they point to) how can this be done ? TIA Dean Real World __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 16-Dec-1998 5:52:38-GMT,2250;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA13968 for ; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 22:52:37 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA29257; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 23:48:05 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 15 Dec 1998 23:46:38 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA29146; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 23:46:36 -0600 From: "David M. Davisson" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Bookmarks Vol II Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 21:42:49 -0800 Message-ID: <000b01be28b6$ea3b3420$694b0018@C34045-A.wntck1.sfba.home.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <3677D80E.6178264D@realworld.com.au> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > I remember a thread earlier this year about setting the width of the > bookmark window to allow complete reading of the longest bookmark. Was > that embedded in the pdf file so all users get the expanded view and if > so how ? Sorry to tell you, this is controlled only on the local machine. In windows you have to edit the .ini file. Many times have I wished this was different. ------------ David M. Davisson Pacific Financial Printing 650-328-1500 davisson@pfp.net __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 16-Dec-1998 5:56:33-GMT,2298;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA14060 for ; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 22:56:32 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA29669; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 23:54:40 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 15 Dec 1998 23:53:30 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA29589; Tue, 15 Dec 1998 23:53:29 -0600 Message-ID: From: "Wraight, David D." To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Bookmarks Vol II Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 13:53:01 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > By resizing the bookmark pane and then saving the PDF it will remember the window size next time the PDF is opened up. As for printing the bookmark titles if I think of something I'll let ya know (what about from the source documents?) You could probably do it if you had the Acrobat SDK. d............... ------------------------- > I remember a thread earlier this year about setting the width of the > bookmark window to allow complete reading of the longest bookmark. Was > that embedded in the pdf file so all users get the expanded view and if > so how ? > > Also, if we want to print the entire selection of bookmark text, (not > the actual links they point to) how can this be done ? > > TIA > > Dean __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 16-Dec-1998 7:08:24-GMT,2567;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA15689 for ; Wed, 16 Dec 1998 00:08:23 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA00177; Wed, 16 Dec 1998 01:03:29 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 16 Dec 1998 01:01:50 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA00035; Wed, 16 Dec 1998 01:01:48 -0600 Message-Id: <98Dec16.090039gmt+0100.29570-1@baz-s-fw.baz.ch> From: Yannick Wolf To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Cc: "'Kevin.Peoples@adidasus.com'" Subject: Re:[PDF] white bounding box in PDF Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 08:02:45 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Hi Kevin We already had this problem. This a known bug of Acrobat Reader 3.01. When you use Acrobat 3.0 your pdf looks fine. This bug should be fixed in the next release. Yannick ===================== Yannick Wolf PDF Team BMG ComServ Das Softwarehaus der Basler Mediengruppe Hochbergerstrasse 15 CH-4002 Basel, Postfach Tel :++4161 639 16 84 Fax :++4161 631 53 10 Mail : y.wolf@baz.ch http://www.bmgcomserv.ch ===================== You wrote: ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 15:35:18 -0800 From: "Peoples, Kevin (i)" Subject: [PDF] white bounding box in PDF < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Has anyone had the problem of Photoshop (tiff & EPS) or Illustrator images (with transparent backgrounds) presenting white, non-transparent backgrounds in PDF documents? I'm printing to a postcript file from Quark 4, and Distiling normally. __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 16-Dec-1998 7:21:42-GMT,3213;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA16055 for ; Wed, 16 Dec 1998 00:21:41 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA01080; Wed, 16 Dec 1998 01:19:50 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 16 Dec 1998 01:18:43 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA00981; Wed, 16 Dec 1998 01:18:41 -0600 Message-Id: <98Dec16.091730gmt+0100.29570-1@baz-s-fw.baz.ch> From: Yannick Wolf To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Cc: "'Jay.Stabile@tfn.com'" Subject: Re:[PDF] searching PDF's on Web Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 08:19:40 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id BAA00976 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Hi Jay You don't need to catalog your pdf files to make them searchable on the web. Some web search engines are able to search pdf on the web. Microsoft Index Server (see my previous mails in the archive), Altavista, Infoseek, Verity and Muscat. There are surely others, take alook at the Adobe web site. Verity and Muscat can do direct highlighting in pdf, but you have to pay a big amount of money for them (ie they are not free). What you will choose depends on how big is your project ... Hope it helps Yannick ===================== Yannick Wolf PDF Team BMG ComServ Das Softwarehaus der Basler Mediengruppe Hochbergerstrasse 15 CH-4002 Basel, Postfach Tel :++4161 639 16 84 Fax :++4161 631 53 10 Mail : y.wolf@baz.ch http://www.bmgcomserv.ch ===================== ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 19:35:08 -0500 From: "Stabile, Jay" Subject: [PDF] searching PDF's on Web < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > A few years back I did a PDF CD project using Catalog- worked great for local use. Now, I'd like to set up all my pdf's for intranet AND extranet, so they may be fully searched with true results. >From what I can gather, web-based pdf's don't need to be Cataloged/Indexed. Must I still Catalog the PDF's for the Web search engine, or can the Web engine search or extracted PDF text, and free me of this Cataloging task? Has anyone done this who might offer a process overview or suggestions? Jay Stabile __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 16-Dec-1998 8:09:27-GMT,1985;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA16852 for ; Wed, 16 Dec 1998 01:09:26 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA03103; Wed, 16 Dec 1998 02:04:28 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 16 Dec 1998 02:02:49 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA02971; Wed, 16 Dec 1998 02:02:48 -0600 Message-ID: <3678041C.4BD35801@realworld.com.au> Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 19:04:03 +0000 From: Dean Laffan X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Bookmarks Vol II References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Wraight, David D. wrote: > > > By resizing the bookmark pane and then saving the PDF it will remember the > window size next time the PDF is opened up. How do you do this ? When I save a file it always re-opens at the default setting. Apart from modifying the .ini file I don't see a way. Dean __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 16-Dec-1998 22:56:28-GMT,3319;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA06278 for ; Wed, 16 Dec 1998 15:56:27 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA10291; Wed, 16 Dec 1998 16:49:48 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 16 Dec 1998 16:42:33 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA09556; Wed, 16 Dec 1998 16:42:30 -0600 Message-ID: From: Thomas Quine To: "'PDF List'" Cc: "'Technical Writing List'" , "'Frame List'" Subject: [PDF] The downside of PDF Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 14:32:47 -0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.52 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Remember that PDF is not online help. There are much better tools for online help. PDF is a format that allows you to ensure that the formatting of a document will be maintained when printed. The assumption behind PDF is therefore that the user will print it. PDF has nothing to do with saving trees - it's about passing the cost of printing onto the customer, or, more charitably, allowing the customer to print as many copies as they require. Where PDF breaks down is that the user will usually choose to skip the printing. In my experience, if you put any tiny obstacle between the reader and the reading, you lose a percentage of the readership. Printing out a PDF document is rather a large obstacle to many readers. Therefore, going the PDF route means you find it acceptable to lose a segment of your readership. We produce nine manuals and an online help system for our product. All manuals are written in a Frame template tailored for offset printing. Only the installation guide and step-by-step tutorials are actually printed and bound, because we assume that a printed manual will be most useful to those audiences. (Also, we can't afford to lose any readership on these - they are vital to the success of the product!) After writing is finished, the content of all nine manuals is then ported to two other Frame templates: one for online viewing (includes color, larger and more readable font, hyperlinks, etc.), and one for printing to a standard 8.5x11 laser printer page. This gives the reader their preference. We will be conducting a user evaluation of this strategy early next year - I'll keep the list posted. - Thom __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 17-Dec-1998 0:06:14-GMT,4453;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA08025 for ; Wed, 16 Dec 1998 17:06:13 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA15723; Wed, 16 Dec 1998 18:00:33 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 16 Dec 1998 17:56:22 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA15330; Wed, 16 Dec 1998 17:56:21 -0600 Message-ID: <6031CF804B89D111B9F00020AFD0D9A60251E4@mail.paravision.com> From: Vincent Huang To: "'PDF List'" , Thomas Quine Cc: "'Technical Writing List'" , "'Frame List'" Subject: RE: [PDF] The downside of PDF--the upside Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 16:15:52 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > You missed the document archiving use of PDF. If you have the experience trying to browse through archived tiff files. You would appreciate the functionality PDF brings to these legacy documents. There is simply NO substitute to the experience. Especially the search and find function. For On-line publishing, as you put it, PDF is just one of the many choices with Pros and Cons. Put in Darwinian's perspective, the market will decide the life and death of any format.... Vincent Huang Paravision Imaging Developer of PageGenie 2000: Advanced Legacy Document Capturing for PDF Publishing and Archiving http://www.pagegenie.com ================================ Remember that PDF is not online help. There are much better tools for online help. PDF is a format that allows you to ensure that the formatting of a document will be maintained when printed. The assumption behind PDF is therefore that the user will print it. PDF has nothing to do with saving trees - it's about passing the cost of printing onto the customer, or, more charitably, allowing the customer to print as many copies as they require. Where PDF breaks down is that the user will usually choose to skip the printing. In my experience, if you put any tiny obstacle between the reader and the reading, you lose a percentage of the readership. Printing out a PDF document is rather a large obstacle to many readers. Therefore, going the PDF route means you find it acceptable to lose a segment of your readership. We produce nine manuals and an online help system for our product. All manuals are written in a Frame template tailored for offset printing. Only the installation guide and step-by-step tutorials are actually printed and bound, because we assume that a printed manual will be most useful to those audiences. (Also, we can't afford to lose any readership on these - they are vital to the success of the product!) After writing is finished, the content of all nine manuals is then ported to two other Frame templates: one for online viewing (includes color, larger and more readable font, hyperlinks, etc.), and one for printing to a standard 8.5x11 laser printer page. This gives the reader their preference. We will be conducting a user evaluation of this strategy early next year - I'll keep the list posted. - Thom __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 17-Dec-1998 2:29:06-GMT,2130;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA11172 for ; Wed, 16 Dec 1998 19:29:05 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA23683; Wed, 16 Dec 1998 20:20:34 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 16 Dec 1998 20:17:42 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA23489; Wed, 16 Dec 1998 20:17:41 -0600 Message-ID: From: "Wraight, David D." To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Bookmarks Vol II Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 10:16:25 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Dean, I think this was a feature of an earlier version of Acrobat (2.1), I apologize for that. I definitely remember being able to do that. Sorry. d................... ps. The INI settings are more than likely the only way, unless you code it. > > By resizing the bookmark pane and then saving the PDF it will remember > the > > window size next time the PDF is opened up. > > How do you do this ? > > When I save a file it always re-opens at the default setting. Apart from > modifying the .ini file I don't see a way. > > Dean > > > __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 17-Dec-1998 8:42:44-GMT,4202;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA18599 for ; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 01:42:43 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA09973; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 02:36:52 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 17 Dec 1998 02:34:31 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA09880; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 02:34:30 -0600 Message-ID: <006d01be2a71$d8b404e0$a85137a6@z9m7g8> From: "Mario E. Martinez-Montalvo" To: Subject: Re: Re:[PDF] searching PDF's on Web Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 02:33:22 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Personal Library's PLWeb Turbo is free: http://www.pls.com/plweb.htm It just became an AOL subsidiary. I would to hear from someone who actually have installed this search engine. M.E. Martinez-Montalvo martinez_montalvo@yahoo.com __________________________________________ -----Original Message----- From: Yannick Wolf To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' Cc: 'Jay.Stabile@tfn.com' Date: Tuesday, December 15, 1998 11:30 PM Subject: Re:[PDF] searching PDF's on Web > >< ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > >Hi Jay > >You don't need to catalog your pdf files to make them searchable on the web. > >Some web search engines are able to search pdf on the web. Microsoft Index Server (see my previous mails in the archive), Altavista, Infoseek, Verity and Muscat. There are surely others, take alook at the Adobe web site. > >Verity and Muscat can do direct highlighting in pdf, but you have to pay a big amount of money for them (ie they are not free). What you will choose depends on how big is your project ... > > >Hope it helps > >Yannick > >===================== >Yannick Wolf >PDF Team > >BMG ComServ >Das Softwarehaus der Basler Mediengruppe > >Hochbergerstrasse 15 >CH-4002 Basel, Postfach > >Tel :++4161 639 16 84 >Fax :++4161 631 53 10 >Mail : y.wolf@baz.ch > >http://www.bmgcomserv.ch >===================== > > >------------------------------ > >Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 19:35:08 -0500 >From: "Stabile, Jay" >Subject: [PDF] searching PDF's on Web > >< ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > > >A few years back I did a PDF CD project using Catalog- worked great for >local use. > >Now, I'd like to set up all my pdf's for intranet AND extranet, so they may >be fully searched with true results. > >>From what I can gather, web-based pdf's don't need to be Cataloged/Indexed. >Must I still Catalog the PDF's for the Web search engine, or can the Web >engine search or extracted PDF text, and free me of this Cataloging task? > >Has anyone done this who might offer a process overview or suggestions? > >Jay Stabile > > >__________________________________________________________________ > >PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" > >send for more info: >__________________________________________________________________ > > __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 17-Dec-1998 12:18:33-GMT,2309;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA22616 for ; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 05:18:31 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA19801; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 06:12:23 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 17 Dec 1998 06:10:29 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA19690; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 06:10:27 -0600 From: MMart10480@aol.com Message-ID: <1785c14b.3678f486@aol.com> Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 07:09:42 EST To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [PDF] The downside of PDF--the upside Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 214 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > I am new to the PDF world - both as a user and as a subscriber to this forum, so forgive the "Beginner" level nature of the question. I publish a set of community digests in which the template is Word 6. The format allows for printing in an 81/2 x 11 format. I am in the process of converting these digests to PDF versions for printing to CDROM format . I want to allow my users the ability to print out the full size versions, but also want to provide an on-line viewing version as well. What should be the page set-up dimensions that I should use for my Word documents? Also, what style/type size font would you suggest to optimize the on-line viewing experience for my users? Current main font type is Arial 10. Thank you in advance Mark City Profiles Company __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 17-Dec-1998 12:33:02-GMT,2933;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA22861 for ; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 05:33:01 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA20798; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 06:30:39 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 17 Dec 1998 06:29:25 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA20688; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 06:29:23 -0600 Message-ID: <01BE298D.B547ED30.David_Tamburello@mazer.com> From: Dave Tamburello To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] The downside of PDF--the upside Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 07:20:21 -0800 Organization: Mazer Corporation X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Mark, -----Original Message----- From: MMart10480@aol.com [SMTP:MMart10480@aol.com] Sent: Thursday, December 17, 1998 4:10 AM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] The downside of PDF--the upside < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > I am new to the PDF world - both as a user and as a subscriber to this forum, so forgive the "Beginner" level nature of the question. I publish a set of community digests in which the template is Word 6. The format allows for printing in an 81/2 x 11 format. I am in the process of converting these digests to PDF versions for printing to CDROM format . I want to allow my users the ability to print out the full size versions, but also want to provide an on-line viewing version as well. What should be the page set-up dimensions that I should use for my Word documents? Also, what style/type size font would you suggest to optimize the on-line viewing experience for my users? Current main font type is Arial 10. Thank you in advance Mark City Profiles Company __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 17-Dec-1998 13:14:10-GMT,4513;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA23563 for ; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 06:14:09 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA23035; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 07:08:50 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 17 Dec 1998 07:07:34 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA22928; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 07:07:33 -0600 Message-ID: <01BE2993.09971460.David_Tamburello@mazer.com> From: Dave Tamburello To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] The downside of PDF--the upside Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 07:58:30 -0800 Organization: Mazer Corporation X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Mark, As an alternative to reformatting and then maintaining another version of the document, you could place article threads over a PDF in the current layout. Article threads are comprised of a series of linked close-up views of the document text. They zoom into the document and provide easy sequential navigation. The user clicks anywhere in the text to use the article. When the user is done reading the current view of the thread, they just click anywhere again, and they are taken to the next view. For more information, see pages 88 and 138 of the Exchange online guide (in Exchange, Help>Exchange Online Guide). However, if you don't mind reformatting, keep in mind that the screen is more suitable for landscape page layout. In other words, landscape gives you the most usable screen real estate. Page dimensions of 11x8.5 work fine. As for font size, different fonts give different results, but I have found that at "fit page" magnification for a landscape layout page, 14 to 18 points is comfortably readable.This combination (landscape, fit page, 16+ size text) allows for easy readability without requiring the user to scroll until they are done with the current page. As for font style, sans serif is cleaner, which is important because screen resolution is only 72 to 96 dpi. I have an example PDF that shows this. E-mail me personally at David_Tamburello@mazer.com and I'll send you (or anyone else) a copy. David Tamburello Training Specialist ACE Acrobat 3 Mazer ePublishing Grand Rapids, MI (616) 285-3900 ext 232 David_Tamburello@mazer.com -----Original Message----- From: MMart10480@aol.com [SMTP:MMart10480@aol.com] Sent: Thursday, December 17, 1998 4:10 AM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] The downside of PDF--the upside < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > I am new to the PDF world - both as a user and as a subscriber to this forum, so forgive the "Beginner" level nature of the question. I publish a set of community digests in which the template is Word 6. The format allows for printing in an 81/2 x 11 format. I am in the process of converting these digests to PDF versions for printing to CDROM format . I want to allow my users the ability to print out the full size versions, but also want to provide an on-line viewing version as well. What should be the page set-up dimensions that I should use for my Word documents? Also, what style/type size font would you suggest to optimize the on-line viewing experience for my users? Current main font type is Arial 10. Thank you in advance Mark City Profiles Company __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 17-Dec-1998 13:40:07-GMT,3905;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA24119 for ; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 06:40:06 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA25081; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 07:36:12 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 17 Dec 1998 07:34:32 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA24903; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 07:34:30 -0600 From: "Jim Cullen" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] The downside of PDF--the upside Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 08:38:36 -0500 Message-ID: <000001be29c2$8c4b6c60$4f8799d1@oemcomputer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <1785c14b.3678f486@aol.com> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > I see nothing wrong with 8.5x11. However, We've always set the Document Open settings to Fit Width, Continuous, and Bookmarks or Thumbnails on (one or the other). The Thumbnails and Fit Width settings result in a display of about half a page at a time at most screen resolutions. Continuous allows the user to scroll down the page without sudden jumps from one page to the next. This has always worked well on our CD-ROM publications. Navigation screens are a different story. We've always sized them based on the most common screen resolution for the target audience. But for content pages, the above settings allow for optimum viewing. I was surprised to hear that the FDA insists on default settings. You just can't help some people. -----Original Message----- From: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com [mailto:owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com] On Behalf Of MMart10480@aol.com Sent: Thursday, December 17, 1998 7:10 AM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] The downside of PDF--the upside < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > I am new to the PDF world - both as a user and as a subscriber to this forum, so forgive the "Beginner" level nature of the question. I publish a set of community digests in which the template is Word 6. The format allows for printing in an 81/2 x 11 format. I am in the process of converting these digests to PDF versions for printing to CDROM format . I want to allow my users the ability to print out the full size versions, but also want to provide an on-line viewing version as well. What should be the page set-up dimensions that I should use for my Word documents? Also, what style/type size font would you suggest to optimize the on-line viewing experience for my users? Current main font type is Arial 10. Thank you in advance Mark City Profiles Company __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 17-Dec-1998 14:36:49-GMT,2284;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA25297 for ; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 07:36:48 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA30972; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 08:30:32 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 17 Dec 1998 08:28:41 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA30686; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 08:28:38 -0600 Message-ID: <002001be29c9$2f301c40$0400a8c0@Firewall.Polydata> From: "Ian Hickey" To: "PDF - Discussion list" Subject: [PDF] Fw: PDF - ActiveX component - deploying application Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 14:26:05 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Help!!! I'm trying to install an application which contains the ActiveX PDF viewer (application is written in Delphi 3). When I run the application and choose my view document button it says "One of the library files required to run this application cannot be found". Does anyone know what I haven't installed - or do I have to register the ActiveX component in some way - I have of course installed Adobe's Acrobat Reader. Any help is appreciated at this stage as I haven't been able to find any info on line or in Delphi's help files, Regards, Ian __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 17-Dec-1998 14:48:29-GMT,3129;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA25543 for ; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 07:48:28 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA00063; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 08:45:28 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 17 Dec 1998 08:42:37 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA32355; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 08:42:35 -0600 Message-ID: <90001230CD9ED111B47F00608CF26D1E170073@ARTHUR> From: Karl De Abrew To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Fw: PDF - ActiveX component - deploying application Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 01:42:12 +1100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Hi Ian, You may like to check that Internet Explorer is installed on the machine that you are using. As the ActiveX control is intended for use with IE, perhaps it does not install and register if IE is not present. Just a guess... regards, Karl De Abrew karl@roundtable.com.au A Round Table Solution - See Code Cuts for Acrobat Dev Tips http://www.codecuts.com/ http://www.roundtable.com.au/ -----Original Message----- From: Ian Hickey [mailto:ihickey@indigo.ie] Sent: Friday, 18 December 1998 1:26 To: PDF - Discussion list Subject: [PDF] Fw: PDF - ActiveX component - deploying application < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Help!!! I'm trying to install an application which contains the ActiveX PDF viewer (application is written in Delphi 3). When I run the application and choose my view document button it says "One of the library files required to run this application cannot be found". Does anyone know what I haven't installed - or do I have to register the ActiveX component in some way - I have of course installed Adobe's Acrobat Reader. Any help is appreciated at this stage as I haven't been able to find any info on line or in Delphi's help files, Regards, Ian __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 17-Dec-1998 15:27:06-GMT,2730;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA26349 for ; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 08:27:05 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA03919; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 09:20:46 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 17 Dec 1998 09:17:50 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA03567; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 09:17:49 -0600 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Fw: PDF - ActiveX component - deploying application Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 14:39:30 -0000 Message-ID: <004001be29cf$fd7317a0$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <002001be29c9$2f301c40$0400a8c0@Firewall.Polydata> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > You probably have not installed an appropriate release of Microsoft Internet Explorer. Be warned, if you don't already know, that Adobe don't recommend, support, document, or accept bug reports on developing applications with the ActiveX. Adobe's position is that it is an end-user tool for Microsoft Internet Explorer only. They do not, however, go as far as forbidding third party development. They do require that the ActiveX component ONLY be distributed as part of an Adobe-supplied installer. You MUST NOT distribute the pdf.ocx files "loose", nor write your own installer for it (except as a wrapper for the complete Adobe installer). Aandi > I'm trying to install an application which contains the > ActiveX PDF viewer > (application is written in Delphi 3). When I run the > application and choose > my view document button it says "One of the library files > required to run > this application cannot be found". __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 17-Dec-1998 16:18:34-GMT,2816;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA27643 for ; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 09:18:33 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA09944; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 10:09:09 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 17 Dec 1998 10:05:59 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA09551; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 10:05:58 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19981217111722.008feb50@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 11:17:22 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] The downside of PDF--the upside In-Reply-To: <1785c14b.3678f486@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > >I publish a set of community digests in which the template is Word 6. The >format allows for printing in an 81/2 x 11 format. I am in the process of >converting these digests to PDF versions for printing to CDROM format . I want >to allow my users the ability to print out the full size versions, but also >want to provide an on-line viewing version as well. What should be the page >set-up dimensions that I should use for my Word documents? Also, what >style/type size font would you suggest to optimize the on-line viewing >experience for my users? Current main font type is Arial 10. > You'll likely run into a problem here ... you can set up your document margins in Word, but the resulting PDF will be the paper size chosen in the printer driver. Possibly a driver with a customizeable paper size will be necessary. Cropping the doc in Exchange might appear to be a solution, but won't always work, as the links seem to be positioned relative to the paper corner rather than to the margins, so they may show up in left field somewhere. Perhaps designing for letter size/landscape would be a reasonable compromise. Steve Rindsberg/Prez RDP http://www.rdpslides.com __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 17-Dec-1998 16:22:56-GMT,3031;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA27773 for ; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 09:22:55 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA11077; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 10:18:20 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 17 Dec 1998 10:15:49 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA10755; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 10:15:47 -0600 From: robert.richard@hrdc-drhc.gc.ca Date: Thu, 17 Dec 98 11:09:58 -0500 Message-ID: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) To: Subject: [PDF] fwd: Re: duplicating form fields X-Incognito-SN: 1396 X-Incognito-Version: 4.11.23 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Thanks for last reply, In the case where we choose the Reader medium for our agents in telecentre, is there a way to remove the Adobe Reader bar? (Bookmarks buttons, First Page, Last Page, Binoculars, etc.). By removing this bar, it would give us a larger screen display for our telecentre resource. We would be using the text boxes tool bar created in Word 6.0. Also, probably less confusion for our agents. RRRR. ------------- Original Text From: "Lynn Mead" , on 12/14/98 1:26 PM: To: RICHARD.RO@TELBATH@NB Robert, The "duplicate fields" function will place the fields in the same position as the originating page. If your Tool Bar is not in the same place on each page then you can reposition the fields after they have been duplicated. Lynn Lynn Mead Cognoscenti, Inc. Adobe Premium VAR 425-271-2878 lmead@cognosinc.com At 11:52 AM 12/14/98 -0500, you wrote: >When duplicating the "Text Boxes tool bar" to the whole document, does the >bar position need to be the same on each pages? > >RRRR. >------------- >Original Text >From: "Lynn Mead" , on 12/9/98 3:18 PM: >Robert, >It is good to know you received my suggestion. I have tried to answer all >your questions in the attached PDF, which contains step by step >instructions. Good luck on your project. If you have more questions, don't >hesitate to ask. > >Lynn > >Lynn Mead >Cognoscenti, Inc. >Adobe Premium VAR >425-271-2878 >lmead@cognosinc.com > __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 17-Dec-1998 16:31:16-GMT,1682;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA27910 for ; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 09:31:15 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA12147; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 10:27:04 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 17 Dec 1998 10:24:29 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA11751; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 10:24:26 -0600 From: robert.richard@hrdc-drhc.gc.ca Date: Thu, 17 Dec 98 11:22:21 -0500 Message-ID: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) To: Subject: [PDF] fwd: Re: duplicating form fields X-Incognito-SN: 1396 X-Incognito-Version: 4.11.23 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Excuses for last message, My last message was intended for Lynn Mead and not the pdf general list. Robert Richard. __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 17-Dec-1998 16:36:01-GMT,4023;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA28046 for ; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 09:36:00 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA12912; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 10:33:01 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 17 Dec 1998 10:30:31 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA12594; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 10:30:28 -0600 Message-ID: <90001230CD9ED111B47F00608CF26D1E170085@ARTHUR> From: Karl De Abrew To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] fwd: Re: duplicating form fields Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 03:30:05 +1100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Hello Robert, If you press Ctrl-Shift-B or goto the Window->Hide Toolbar menuitem you will be able to remove the toolbar from Acrobat Reader. This is a persistent setting which means once you have set it once, it will stay turned off. I hope this helps. regards, Karl De Abrew karl@roundtable.com.au A Round Table Solution - PlanetPDF coming soon... http://www.roundtable.com.au/ -----Original Message----- From: robert.richard@hrdc-drhc.gc.ca [mailto:robert.richard@hrdc-drhc.gc.ca] Sent: Friday, 18 December 1998 3:10 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] fwd: Re: duplicating form fields < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Thanks for last reply, In the case where we choose the Reader medium for our agents in telecentre, is there a way to remove the Adobe Reader bar? (Bookmarks buttons, First Page, Last Page, Binoculars, etc.). By removing this bar, it would give us a larger screen display for our telecentre resource. We would be using the text boxes tool bar created in Word 6.0. Also, probably less confusion for our agents. RRRR. ------------- Original Text From: "Lynn Mead" , on 12/14/98 1:26 PM: To: RICHARD.RO@TELBATH@NB Robert, The "duplicate fields" function will place the fields in the same position as the originating page. If your Tool Bar is not in the same place on each page then you can reposition the fields after they have been duplicated. Lynn Lynn Mead Cognoscenti, Inc. Adobe Premium VAR 425-271-2878 lmead@cognosinc.com At 11:52 AM 12/14/98 -0500, you wrote: >When duplicating the "Text Boxes tool bar" to the whole document, does the >bar position need to be the same on each pages? > >RRRR. >------------- >Original Text >From: "Lynn Mead" , on 12/9/98 3:18 PM: >Robert, >It is good to know you received my suggestion. I have tried to answer all >your questions in the attached PDF, which contains step by step >instructions. Good luck on your project. If you have more questions, don't >hesitate to ask. > >Lynn > >Lynn Mead >Cognoscenti, Inc. >Adobe Premium VAR >425-271-2878 >lmead@cognosinc.com > __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 17-Dec-1998 17:05:45-GMT,2220;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA28771 for ; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 10:05:44 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA16061; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 11:00:05 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 17 Dec 1998 10:58:32 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA15782; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 10:58:29 -0600 Comments: ( Received on motgate.mot.com from client mothost.mot.com, sender adaly01@cork.cig.mot.com ) Message-ID: <36793822.BC80F4AF@cork.cig.mot.com> Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 16:58:10 +0000 From: Alan Daly Organization: Motorola CIG X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] PDF from Excel References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Hi all, Just wondering if anyone can help with the following: I am trying to set up a cron job, which takes a EXCEL charts, and prints it in PDF format to a file. These files will de displayed on the WEB, using Acrobat Reader 3.0. There are many charts which are updated nightly and displayed in-house on the web, so some way on automating this wold save so much time. So anyone out there with a solution to this problem?? Any help at all all would be greatly appreciated. Cheers, Al.. __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 17-Dec-1998 17:27:50-GMT,2434;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA29311 for ; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 10:27:49 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA18469; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 11:23:11 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 17 Dec 1998 11:20:45 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA18199; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 11:20:43 -0600 Message-ID: <01BE29B7.EB8A0E80.mastephenson@syrres.com> From: mastephenson@syrres.com (mark stephenson) To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Search vs. Search with Index Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 12:22:30 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Just in case no one else answered this, I've used both 'search' and 'find' - since they are quite different, it would be hard to get them to behave the same. Your concern is valid though about the highlighting - I did look into this, and my understanding is that it amounts to somewhat random variations in the byte-indexing which is reponsible for 'finding' the correct words to highlight - this results in words 'near' the correct terms being highlighted. I never could lick this, and had to settle for telling customers of our CD indexed collections that some variations were unavoidable. Face it - the highlighting directs you to the hits, whether it's dead on the word selected or not. Mark Mark Stephenson Software Engineer Syracuse Research Corporation (315) 452-8305 mastephenson@syrres.com __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 17-Dec-1998 17:33:37-GMT,2333;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA29471 for ; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 10:33:36 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA19173; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 11:29:17 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 17 Dec 1998 11:28:09 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA19012; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 11:28:04 -0600 Message-ID: <812683BD972BD111B9AA00805F956EE373964A@tac-nt-exch3.russell.com> From: "Keith, Derek (IMB_Technology)" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Automated PDF rendering & EDMS check-in. Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 09:21:54 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > I am working on a proposal at my company to develop a system that can take a PS printstream from various applications, render it into a PDF, parse the PDF for certain metadata items, and use the metadata to automatically check the document into our Filenet document management system. An example is an invoice. Once the invoice is distilled, it would be parsed (scanned) to extract the client name, invoice date, invoice number, and client ID. These data items are then used during the document management check-in process. The metadata will appear in the same part of the document each time. I was wondering if anyone is aware of some commercially available products that can scan the PDFs for certain metadata. Thanks, Derek __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 17-Dec-1998 17:48:25-GMT,2324;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA29808 for ; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 10:48:24 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA20703; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 11:40:16 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 17 Dec 1998 11:38:55 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA20475; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 11:38:54 -0600 Message-ID: <006b01be29e3$c30740a0$0400a8c0@Firewall.Polydata> From: "Ian Hickey" To: Subject: [PDF] PDF - ActiveX component - deploying application Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 17:36:20 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > >You probably have not installed an appropriate release >of Microsoft Internet Explorer. Thanks for your replies guys - when you said this I thought that you were right but since then as an experiment I blanked a machine - installed Windows 95, Acrobat Reader (which contains all the appropriate files for the ActiveX component) and Delphi 3. I went into Delphi 3 and added the PDF viewer onto a new project form and run the application - it ran fine without Internet explorer being installed. Nice theory though but I'm still stuck... Any ideas... I guess I'm going to be working late again tonight !!! Regards, Ian __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 17-Dec-1998 18:01:59-GMT,5158;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA00130 for ; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 11:01:58 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA22573; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 11:58:09 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 17 Dec 1998 11:55:33 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA22301; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 11:55:32 -0600 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19981217175512.0096233c@env-sol.com> X-Sender: thiersch@env-sol.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 09:55:12 -0800 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Tom Thiersch Subject: Re: Re:[PDF] searching PDF's on Web Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Thanks for the idea, but... I haven't used this "free" software, nor do I intend to, because of the following restriction, quoted for reference from the PLWeb "License" page: "6. Web Linking. You agree that the search screens and results screens on any Web site where the Licensed Product or an Integrated Work is installed will contain (a) a notice that the site is "Powered by PLS," and (b) at least one hyperlink to http://www.aol.com. You can obtain information about establishing such a link at http://www.aol.com/info/link.html. Except for the limited permission provided in this agreement, You are not granted any right to use the AOL Marks." i.e.: I have to clutter up each search/results page on my site with ugly AOL logos and links. No thanks! This is just as obnoxious as Apple demanding that you play their Quicktime 3 promo before each movie. It just shows, once again, that "There is no such thing as a free lunch." Note: The MS Index Server that comes with NT 4 works very well, and its use does not require the placement of any unwanted logos, etc. Just because it's bundled with NT does not make it "free", however, despite DoJ's claims to the contrary. Tom Thiersch At 02:33 AM 12/18/98 -0800, you wrote: > >< ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > >Personal Library's PLWeb Turbo is free: http://www.pls.com/plweb.htm > >It just became an AOL subsidiary. I would to hear from someone who actually >have installed this search engine. > >M.E. Martinez-Montalvo >martinez_montalvo@yahoo.com >__________________________________________ > >-----Original Message----- >From: Yannick Wolf >To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' >Cc: 'Jay.Stabile@tfn.com' >Date: Tuesday, December 15, 1998 11:30 PM >Subject: Re:[PDF] searching PDF's on Web > > >> >>< ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > >> >>Hi Jay >> >>You don't need to catalog your pdf files to make them searchable on the >web. >> >>Some web search engines are able to search pdf on the web. Microsoft Index >Server (see my previous mails in the archive), Altavista, Infoseek, Verity >and Muscat. There are surely others, take alook at the Adobe web site. >> >>Verity and Muscat can do direct highlighting in pdf, but you have to pay a >big amount of money for them (ie they are not free). What you will choose >depends on how big is your project ... >> >> >>Hope it helps >> >>Yannick >> >>===================== >>Yannick Wolf >>PDF Team >> >>BMG ComServ >>Das Softwarehaus der Basler Mediengruppe >> >>Hochbergerstrasse 15 >>CH-4002 Basel, Postfach >> >>Tel :++4161 639 16 84 >>Fax :++4161 631 53 10 >>Mail : y.wolf@baz.ch >> >>http://www.bmgcomserv.ch >>===================== >> >> >>------------------------------ >> >>Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1998 19:35:08 -0500 >>From: "Stabile, Jay" >>Subject: [PDF] searching PDF's on Web >> >>< ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > >> >> >>A few years back I did a PDF CD project using Catalog- worked great for >>local use. >> >>Now, I'd like to set up all my pdf's for intranet AND extranet, so they may >>be fully searched with true results. >> >>>From what I can gather, web-based pdf's don't need to be >Cataloged/Indexed. >>Must I still Catalog the PDF's for the Web search engine, or can the Web >>engine search or extracted PDF text, and free me of this Cataloging task? >> >>Has anyone done this who might offer a process overview or suggestions? >> >>Jay Stabile > __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 17-Dec-1998 18:10:20-GMT,3914;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA00414 for ; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 11:10:19 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA23658; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 12:06:44 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 17 Dec 1998 12:05:33 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA23501; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 12:05:31 -0600 Message-ID: <6031CF804B89D111B9F00020AFD0D9A60251EE@mail.paravision.com> From: Vincent Huang To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" , mastephenson@syrres.com Subject: RE: [PDF] Search vs. Search with Index Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 10:24:56 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > The problem of inconsistency (displacement) between searched word and displayed word came from the algorithm used in the Indexing of the search engine. When you search the word, it goes to X-th word in the page from the beginning. However, in PDF the display of word has a different algorithm. It's like the right hand does not know what the left hand is doing. The result is what we all experience. This is clearly an Acrobat bug....fingers crossed that it will be fixed soon. The problem is random but the bug is predictable. A quick way to ping down where the trouble maker: 1. After you indexed your PDFs, search using simple words such as "the" as a locator. 2. You will see exactly where your "the" gets displaced. 3. Between the last correct "the" and the first misplaced "the", certain word is the cause of the trouble maker. 4. Copy the paragraph to your MS Word, 5. You can find out the problem making "word" is split up with space in between. E.g. "35" become "3 5". 6. Go back to your PDF document and use Acrbat Exchange to get rid of the space in-between, 7. Save your PDF, re-index it. 8. That ought do it. 9. It's not worth the trouble if your searched word is displaced by over 3 or 4 locations. That means you got to repeat the steps above many times in many locations in your PDF. Vincent Huang Paravision Imaging Developer of PageGenie 2000: Advanced Legacy Document Capturing for PDF Publishing and Archiving http://www.pagegenie.com ---------- From: mastephenson@syrres.com [SMTP:mastephenson@syrres.com] Just in case no one else answered this, I've used both 'search' and 'find' - since they are quite different, it would be hard to get them to behave the same. Your concern is valid though about the highlighting - I did look into this, and my understanding is that it amounts to somewhat random variations in the byte-indexing which is reponsible for 'finding' the correct words to highlight - this results in words 'near' the correct terms being highlighted. I never could lick this, and had to settle for telling customers of our CD indexed collections that some variations were unavoidable. Face it - the highlighting directs you to the hits, whether it's dead on the word selected or not. __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 17-Dec-1998 18:33:31-GMT,2504;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA01032 for ; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 11:33:30 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA25864; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 12:24:45 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 17 Dec 1998 12:22:42 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA25551; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 12:22:38 -0600 Message-ID: <6031CF804B89D111B9F00020AFD0D9A60251F1@mail.paravision.com> From: Vincent Huang To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com, Tom Thiersch Subject: RE: Re:[PDF] searching PDF's on Web Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 10:42:00 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > I am quite empathetic to Apple's stance. Unless we are in a world where we all get paid salaries by the Government (or some other form of big nrother). Business purposes are unavoidable and in my personal opinion, acceptable. Hopefully Apple goes out and do some charities once in a while like we all do. BTW, maybe they should sell a version for a fee without the nuisance requirements. Vincent Huang Paravision Imaging Developer of PageGenie 2000: Advanced Legacy Document Capturing for PDF Publishing and Archiving http://www.pagegenie.com ========================== i.e.: I have to clutter up each search/results page on my site with ugly AOL logos and links. No thanks! This is just as obnoxious as Apple demanding that you play their Quicktime 3 promo before each movie. It just shows, once again, that "There is no such thing as a free lunch." __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 17-Dec-1998 18:39:33-GMT,3483;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA01199 for ; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 11:39:32 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA27137; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 12:35:31 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 17 Dec 1998 12:34:13 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA26872; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 12:34:09 -0600 Message-ID: From: "Livingston, Thomas S" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] fwd: Re: duplicating form fields Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 10:30:18 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2407.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > In Exchange, you can remove all bars (Reader, menu, and tools) by setting the Windows Options to "Open In Full Screen Mode." This is done under File > Document Info > Open. You could alternately remove only the menubar and/or toolbar by checking these options in the same area. There is additional info for the Full Screen Mode under File > Preferences > Full Screen. Typically, setting the ESC key to exit allows it to get you out of the full screen mode - useful when you want to exit the reader. Of course, if you hide the menubar, then your clients need to know how to close the file. Control-shift-m would restore the menubar which they can then use to close the file. You could also set up an "Exit" button that would exit the reader. Tom Livingston FSBTI > ---------- > From: robert.richard@hrdc-drhc.gc.ca[SMTP:robert.richard@hrdc-drhc.gc.ca] > Reply To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Sent: Thursday, December 17, 1998 8:09 AM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: [PDF] fwd: Re: duplicating form fields > > > < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > > Thanks for last reply, > > In the case where we choose the Reader medium for our agents in telecentre, > is there a way to remove the Adobe Reader bar? (Bookmarks buttons, First > Page, Last Page, Binoculars, etc.). By removing this bar, it would give us > a larger screen display for our telecentre resource. We would be using the > text boxes tool bar created in Word 6.0. Also, probably less confusion for > our agents. > > RRRR. > > __________________________________________________________________ > > PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" > > send for more info: > __________________________________________________________________ > __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 17-Dec-1998 20:50:13-GMT,2003;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA04386 for ; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 13:50:12 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA05736; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 14:44:30 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 17 Dec 1998 14:42:12 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA05495; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 14:42:11 -0600 Message-ID: <01BE29D3.0C1E4060@c209-135-207-133.kivex.com> From: Dae-Hee Lee To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Please Explain What Error Means... Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 15:36:41 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > PDFers, What does the following error mean, if anything? "Read less image data than expected." The annoying message appears in Acrobat Exchange on a certain PDF file. The PDF file behaves fine, otherwise. How can I get rid of this message? What does it mean? Dae-Hee Lee Director of Electronic Publishing Maryland Composition Co., Inc. 6711 Dover Road Glen Burnie, MD 21060 (410) 760-7900 x3020 [voice] (410) 760-5295 [fax] __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 17-Dec-1998 21:02:21-GMT,4365;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA04666 for ; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 14:02:20 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA06985; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 14:58:59 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 17 Dec 1998 14:57:49 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA06817; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 14:57:48 -0600 X-Sender: conrad+ideograf@pop3.demon.co.uk Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 20:52:46 +0000 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Conrad Taylor Subject: [PDF] Re: The downside of PDF Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > I really enjoyed Thomas Quine's posting to the PDF list that started thus: > Remember that PDF is not online help. There are much better > tools for online help. PDF is a format that allows you to > ensure that the formatting of a document will be maintained > when printed. > > The assumption behind PDF is therefore that the user will print > it. PDF has nothing to do with saving trees - it's about passing > the cost of printing onto the customer, or, more charitably, > allowing the customer to print as many copies as they require... Yep, PDF stands for `print the damn file' in most cases. I just bought a CD-R writer -- and Adaptec Toast for Mac, which prepares files for writing to CD-R, was bundled with it. The manual was supplied as a 218-page PDF file which was just too obviously printed from the originating application (FrameMaker 5.1.1 for Windows)... # page size approx 150 x 200 mm but in the Acrobat file centred in a US Letter page and not cropped afterwards in Exchange # formatted for double-sided printing, so that in my print-out from a single-sided laser printer every second page number is buried next to the binding # colophon states `printed in Singapore' !! (mine was printed in London SE16, UK) It is a wonderful manual and the author has provided a goldmine of information about CD formats. To pan for this gold I first had to spend three hours printing the manual, guillotining the pages down to size, creating covers, printing covers, laminating covers, and Wire-O binding the 218 pages into two volumes (`Toast slice one' and `Toast slice two'). For I am sure that I will refer often to this manual. Thomas Quine remarks: > Printing out a PDF document is rather a large obstacle > to many readers. > > Therefore, going the PDF route means you find it acceptable > to lose a segment of your readership. I recognise that he's right. Not as many people are as obsessive about making PDFs usable as am I. The puzzling thing is: FrameMaker makes it easy to have alternative templates which optimise a document for PDF-printability. Either Adaptec don't know this or they don't care. Beware! It's a slight shift only from `we don't really need to print this document since many people don't read manuals' to `We don't need to employ a technical author because market research indicates that no-one prints out our PDF manuals'. Conrad ********************************************************************* Conrad Taylor > Information design & electronic publishing consultant > MAIL: conrad@ideograf.demon.co.uk > WEB: http://www.ideography.co.uk Secretary (and Deputy Chair) of the Information Design Association. _____________________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 17-Dec-1998 21:08:57-GMT,1977;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA04814 for ; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 14:08:56 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA07695; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 15:07:01 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 17 Dec 1998 15:05:54 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA07578; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 15:05:53 -0600 Message-ID: <01BE29D6.56DCBE80@c209-135-207-133.kivex.com> From: Dae-Hee Lee To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] re: Previous Message Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 16:00:15 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > PDFers, I was able to fix the error regarding "read less image data" by printing the PDF to a postscript file and distilling it. I am still curious, though. What did the error message mean -- and what caused it? As I said, everything "seemed" fine. Dae-Hee Lee Director of Electronic Publishing Maryland Composition Co., Inc. 6711 Dover Road Glen Burnie, MD 21060 (410) 760-7900 x3020 [voice] (410) 760-5295 [fax] __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 17-Dec-1998 21:51:19-GMT,1955;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA05788 for ; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 14:51:18 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA10379; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 15:46:45 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 17 Dec 1998 15:44:49 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA10210; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 15:44:47 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19981217164335.007c74e0@goshen.edu> X-Sender: joelmw@goshen.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 16:43:35 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: "Joel Wenger M" Subject: [PDF] PDF/CGI Scripts Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > I am failry new to PDF. I am trying to create a fillable form for our web page. I then would like to have the information sent to our web server. To do this I know I need a CGI Script, but I am not familiar in how to program a CGI Script. Could someone out there e-mail me a copy of a CGI script that I can use as my model to get the FDF information to my server? Many thanks JW __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 18-Dec-1998 2:49:45-GMT,3402;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA11871 for ; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 19:49:44 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA29960; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 20:43:19 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 17 Dec 1998 20:39:13 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA29649; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 20:39:08 -0600 Message-ID: <3679BF4B.B1009824@marylandcomp.com> Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 21:34:51 -0500 From: Dae-Hee Lee Organization: @Home Network Member X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en]C-AtHome0404 (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Catalog and Memory Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Folks, I have read the archives relating to Acrobat Catalog and its error messages, but I fail to find a detailed description as to what is happening in the following instance: Large quantity of PDF files (253 to be exact) are being Cataloged on a PowerMac with 80MB of System memory. The files reside on a 650MB partition of a disc that has been set aside for CD-ROM production. The PDF files add up to about 200MB. In the process of producing the Catalog Index, an error message comes up indicating that I have run out of memory and suggesting that I quit other running applications and rebuild the index. My Questions: [1] What MEMORY is the error message referring to? Do I need to increase the application memory, or system memory? Can I increase MEMORY via the use of virtual memory (right now, virtual memory is OFF)? [2] Would saving the INDEX file onto a separate drive help with regards to the above matter (i.e. I can save the index to a separate physical disk attached to the Mac). I tried -- received the same error. [3] 1.5 times the 200MB is about 300MB -- which I believe I have available. Yet, the error message appears. It can't be lack of disk space, right? [4] Can an INDEX created on the PC be used for Mac/Windows cross platform CD-ROM disc? On which index files do I need to modify the PATH to the PDF files? To me, it seems that the PC index files would include the drive letter, etc. in the path that differs from the Mac. Would changing the path statement of relevant files using a text editor suffice in converting a PC index into a dual Mac/PC index for use on a multi-platform CD-ROM? ANY help would be appreciated. Again, I could not find the answer I need in either the Adobe or the PDFZone tech note archives. Thanks. David Lee __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 18-Dec-1998 2:53:43-GMT,2059;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA11923 for ; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 19:53:42 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA30644; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 20:51:45 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 17 Dec 1998 20:50:33 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA30566; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 20:50:31 -0600 Message-ID: <367A5DEC.4B936269@realworld.com.au> Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 13:51:42 +0000 From: Dean Laffan X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Quictime liscensing References: <2.2.32.19981217175512.0096233c@env-sol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Tom Thiersch wrote: > This is just as obnoxious as Apple demanding that you play their Quicktime 3 > promo before each movie. Hi Tom, You do know Apple did eventually sort this out and now only installs the desktop folder once at installation. Once it's trashed it's gone, although at seemingly random startups of QT3 std it DOES pop up with the reminder to upgrade to Pro. Dean Real World __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 18-Dec-1998 2:54:55-GMT,2845;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA11941 for ; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 19:54:54 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA30856; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 20:52:52 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 17 Dec 1998 20:51:47 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA30647; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 20:51:46 -0600 Message-ID: <367A5E38.ABA8C1F4@realworld.com.au> Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 13:52:59 +0000 From: Dean Laffan X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Quicktime again References: <6031CF804B89D111B9F00020AFD0D9A60251F1@mail.paravision.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Vincent Huang wrote: > BTW, maybe they should sell a version for a fee without the nuisance > requirements. Last time I looked, they do, but it's a $US1 PER CD ! They also have deals for bulk purchase of Pro. Check em out at apple.com BTW for a look at one of the really nifty items in QT3 check out http://tag.digital-ren.com/partners/apple/demos/syncing/sync.htm This shows how you can embedd URL and markers into movies and to tags in HTML so.... When you view the above page you have four frames numbered 1, 2, 3, 4 in clockwise fashion (1 top left, 2 top right 3 bottom right, 4 bottom left) a QT movie plays in frame 1 and as the speaker mentions a feature and points out to the left of his screen, the HTML frame loads right on cue. this continues for the other frames... very neat. It gets you thinking. I havent tested it yet but I dont see why that link couldn't be http://www.yoursite.com/your.pdf When you look at the functionality that we get from QT versus other architectures and the great range of codecs I think $30 is unbelievable value for money. Dean ( Apple might not always be Insanely Great, but at least their not insane) Laffan __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 18-Dec-1998 2:56:02-GMT,3236;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA11980 for ; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 19:56:01 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA30994; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 20:53:53 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 17 Dec 1998 20:52:44 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA30837; Thu, 17 Dec 1998 20:52:43 -0600 Message-ID: <367A5E71.E453CD66@realworld.com.au> Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 13:53:55 +0000 From: Dean Laffan X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Re: The downside of PDF References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Conrad Taylor wrote: SNIP > It is a wonderful manual and the author has provided a > goldmine of information about CD formats. To pan for this > gold I first had to spend three hours printing the manual, > guillotining the pages down to size, creating covers, > printing covers, laminating covers, and Wire-O binding > the 218 pages into two volumes (`Toast slice one' and > `Toast slice two'). For I am sure that I will refer > often to this manual. > SNIP > > I recognise that he's right. Not as many people are as obsessive > about making PDFs usable as am I. > > The puzzling thing is: FrameMaker makes it easy to have alternative > templates which optimise a document for PDF-printability. Either > Adaptec don't know this or they don't care. SNIP I find it ironic that a lot of software companies (Who therefore should know better) are shovelling their manuals on to PDF but not thinking about how thay might be used. Eg. we have a Media 100 video editing system on the install CD were about 6 - 10 seperate PDF's just lumped in the folder. No index, no links, nuthin. To get full value out of these sorts of files we run em through the index, add minimal amount of smarts and then stick an alias in the Apple menu and call it M100 PDF Help. This way if we need a quick search to find an error code or some specific reference we can get it in seconds, or browse the dead trees on the shelf. I guess this just illustrates to developers like this list that there is still a lot of education (and billable work !) to be done. Dean Laffan Real World __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 18-Dec-1998 15:54:13-GMT,1843;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA27017 for ; Fri, 18 Dec 1998 08:54:12 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA11609; Fri, 18 Dec 1998 09:41:47 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 18 Dec 1998 09:38:56 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA11376; Fri, 18 Dec 1998 09:38:54 -0600 Message-Id: <83277A2AE6FCD111A45600805FA785AA014B9E2C@extexmb01.pfizer.com> From: "Landis, Susan" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Launching Acrobat in Internet Explorer Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 10:38:18 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > I would like to launch the Acrobat Exchange program instead of the plug-in when I open a PDF file within Internet Explorer. Could someone please tell me where to change this. Thanks very much, Susan Landis Susan.Landis@pfizer.com __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 18-Dec-1998 16:23:26-GMT,2395;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA27719 for ; Fri, 18 Dec 1998 09:23:25 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA14301; Fri, 18 Dec 1998 10:12:58 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 18 Dec 1998 10:11:28 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA14144; Fri, 18 Dec 1998 10:11:26 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19981218112252.00934d50@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 11:22:52 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] Re: The downside of PDF In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > I won't include the whole thread here. I've seen the Adaptec manual you refer to. It's indeed a mess for on-screen purposes. That doesn't, in my mind at least, translate into "PDF = Print the Damned File". It simply means that somebody at their end didn't care enough to do the job right (as you suggest later in your post). That attitude certainly deserves all the scorn that we can spare to heap upon it, but I do think it's a bit unfair to tar PDF itself with the same brush. Adaptec could equally well have produced hideously ugly manuals that are illegible when printed, full of errors and misinformation and poorly indexed. Nobody would blame Quark for the result, though, would they? Steve Rindsberg/Prez RDP http://www.rdpslides.com __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 18-Dec-1998 16:24:33-GMT,2917;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA27757 for ; Fri, 18 Dec 1998 09:24:32 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA14449; Fri, 18 Dec 1998 10:14:39 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 18 Dec 1998 10:13:33 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA14339; Fri, 18 Dec 1998 10:13:32 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19981218112458.00923830@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 11:24:58 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] re: Previous Message In-Reply-To: <01BE29D6.56DCBE80@c209-135-207-133.kivex.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > I've seen this same error in files I've received by email (and which presumably were corrupted). They opened, but the image in question was visibly messed up. It was a rather large one, the centerpiece of the page, so to speak. In your case, it might have been a small image, so not particularly noticeable or only minimally corrupted. At 04:00 PM 12/17/98 -0500, you wrote: > >< ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > >PDFers, > >I was able to fix the error regarding "read less image data" by printing the PDF to a >postscript file and distilling it. I am still curious, though. What did the error message >mean -- and what caused it? As I said, everything "seemed" fine. > >Dae-Hee Lee >Director of Electronic Publishing >Maryland Composition Co., Inc. >6711 Dover Road >Glen Burnie, MD 21060 >(410) 760-7900 x3020 [voice] >(410) 760-5295 [fax] > > >__________________________________________________________________ > >PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" > >send for more info: >__________________________________________________________________ > > > Steve Rindsberg/Prez RDP http://www.rdpslides.com __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 18-Dec-1998 18:51:48-GMT,2642;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA01905 for ; Fri, 18 Dec 1998 11:51:47 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA26917; Fri, 18 Dec 1998 12:43:40 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 18 Dec 1998 12:41:18 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA26722; Fri, 18 Dec 1998 12:41:16 -0600 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19981218184130.0096ab90@env-sol.com> X-Sender: thiersch@env-sol.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 10:41:30 -0800 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Tom Thiersch Subject: Re: [PDF] Launching Acrobat in Internet Explorer Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Susan, Refer to: http://www.adobe.com/supportservice/custsupport/SOLUTIONS/98fe.htm for detailed instructions. Or, if you don't want to change the Explorer settings permanently, just use your right mouse button to Save the PDF file to your hard disk, and then open it from your hard disk using the normal Acrobat File>Open command. HTH Tom Thiersch At 10:38 AM 12/18/98 -0500, you wrote: > >< ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > >I would like to launch the Acrobat Exchange program instead of the plug-in >when I open a PDF file within Internet Explorer. Could someone please tell >me where to change this. >Thanks very much, >Susan Landis >Susan.Landis@pfizer.com > >__________________________________________________________________ > >PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" > >send for more info: >__________________________________________________________________ > > __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 18-Dec-1998 20:41:31-GMT,2839;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA05765 for ; Fri, 18 Dec 1998 13:41:30 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA04801; Fri, 18 Dec 1998 14:34:01 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 18 Dec 1998 14:30:50 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA04373; Fri, 18 Dec 1998 14:30:48 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.2.32.19981218133020.00920d30@mail.infomagic.com> X-Sender: aaguilar@mail.infomagic.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.2 (32) Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 13:30:20 -0600 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Alice Aguilar Subject: [PDF] Convert Word97 to PDF on NT platform Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Forgive me if this has already been answered on this list (I'm newbie here)...but I've searched the archives and only have more questions. Here are my questions: What is the best way to convert a Word97 doc to PDF (I'm using Windows NT). I am also embedding many screenshots (I've been playing with GIF and JPEG formats) and want to maintain the clarity of the graphics while viewing over the web (and of course maintain clarity while printing the document). So I am very concerned about keeping the size of the document relatively small (for quicker downloads). I've read in the archives that PDFwriter macros don't seem to work on an NT platform. Then I read that there's a relatively new PDFMaker out that works specifically with WORD97 docs and is pretty stable. The specs on PDFMAKER says it should work on NT, has anyone run into problems here. So back to my original question...what software would work best on NT to convert Word97 docs to PDF's? One last thing, do you need to have the full Acrobat 3.0 pkg to run PDFwriter? Do you need to have at least Acrobat Distiller 3.0? Thanks, Alice ------------------------------------------------------- Alice Aguilar aaguilar@infomagic.com __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 18-Dec-1998 22:18:31-GMT,3005;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA07866 for ; Fri, 18 Dec 1998 15:18:30 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA15009; Fri, 18 Dec 1998 16:09:19 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 18 Dec 1998 16:05:44 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA14734; Fri, 18 Dec 1998 16:05:42 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19981218171703.0090e790@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 17:17:03 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] Convert Word97 to PDF on NT platform In-Reply-To: <3.0.2.32.19981218133020.00920d30@mail.infomagic.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > >What is the best way to convert a Word97 doc to PDF (I'm using Windows NT). > I am also embedding many screenshots (I've been playing with GIF and JPEG >formats) and want to maintain the clarity of the graphics while viewing >over the web (and of course maintain clarity while printing the document). > So I am very concerned about keeping the size of the document relatively >small (for quicker downloads). Use PDFMaker (free from Adobe's web site). ZIP8 compression for your graphics won't lose any detail but will compact them reasonably well. > >I've read in the archives that PDFwriter macros don't seem to work on an NT >platform. Then I read that there's a relatively new PDFMaker out that >works specifically with WORD97 docs and is pretty stable. The specs on >PDFMAKER says it should work on NT, has anyone run into problems here. I suppose it will, but if you've got PDFMaker and Distiller, I'd use that instead. Works very nicely under NT4/SP3 here. You'll want the free 3.02 Distiller update as well (also from the Adobe site) especially if you're doing lots with linking. >One last thing, do you need to have the full Acrobat 3.0 pkg to run >PDFwriter? Do you need to have at least Acrobat Distiller 3.0? If you have just PDFWriter you can use it. Steve Rindsberg/Prez RDP http://www.rdpslides.com __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 20-Dec-1998 9:40:33-GMT,2227;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA14482 for ; Sun, 20 Dec 1998 02:40:32 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA01796; Sun, 20 Dec 1998 03:31:50 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 20 Dec 1998 03:26:31 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA01422; Sun, 20 Dec 1998 03:26:28 -0600 Message-ID: From: Frais Steven To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Cc: Katzenstein Eliezer Subject: [PDF] Poor quality display of graphics in PDF viewer Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1998 11:24:43 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > After converting Word documents to pdf I notice that the graphics (bmp format) display poorly on screen. Sometimes it is necessary to view the pdf at 200% magnification to be able to read any text in these graphics. At 100% magnification the graphics appear fuzzy although when I print them out they are fine. I have tried increasing and decreasing the dpi level in Acrobat Distiller but it makes no difference to poor pdf graphic display. The problem is principally with color graphics. Any ideas on how to improve the quality of graphics in files converted to pdf format? Thank you, S. Frais __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 20-Dec-1998 16:15:33-GMT,3406;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA20460 for ; Sun, 20 Dec 1998 09:15:32 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA23709; Sun, 20 Dec 1998 10:08:49 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 20 Dec 1998 10:06:21 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA23513; Sun, 20 Dec 1998 10:06:19 -0600 Message-ID: <367D2145.94974046@kiwi.futuris.net> Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1998 11:09:41 -0500 From: "Robert E. Moran" Organization: Digital Constructs Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Poor quality display of graphics in PDF viewer References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id KAA23509 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Don't use BMP. Use Tiff instead. Also, you can compress tiff using lzw. Photoshop and Paint Box Pro are two of the best image editors that will let you process tiffs in easy fasion. If you are scannin images, save at 144DPI and bring them into word. The incresased res will permit decent veiwing at 200%. HTH Bob Moran Frais Steven wrote: > < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > > After converting Word documents to pdf I notice that the graphics (bmp > format) display poorly on screen. Sometimes it is necessary to view the pdf > at 200% magnification to be able to read any text in these graphics. At 100% > magnification the graphics appear fuzzy although when I print them out they > are fine. > > I have tried increasing and decreasing the dpi level in Acrobat Distiller > but it makes no difference to poor pdf graphic display. The problem is > principally with color graphics. Any ideas on how to improve the quality of > graphics in files converted to pdf format? > > Thank you, > > S. Frais > > __________________________________________________________________ > > PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" > > send for more info: > __________________________________________________________________ -- Robert E. Moran Digital Constructs Inc. 759 North Park Avenue Redding, CT 06896 Tel 203-452-1116 203-452-8085 Fax: 203-452-0416 E-Mail remoran@dconstructs.com URL: www.dconstructs.com “Confusion is a misapprehension of a higher order” – Henry Miller __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 20-Dec-1998 16:31:39-GMT,3278;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA20798 for ; Sun, 20 Dec 1998 09:31:38 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA24815; Sun, 20 Dec 1998 10:27:57 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 20 Dec 1998 10:26:33 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA24700; Sun, 20 Dec 1998 10:26:31 -0600 From: listowner@pdfzone.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: listowner@mailbag.com (Unverified) Message-Id: Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1998 10:29:55 -0600 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] TIP> Please assist in avoiding "out-of-the-office" & other auto-posts Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Let's all adopt a holiday spirit by *not* sending automated "out-of-the-office" to this (and other) discussion lists during the final weeks of the year. ------------------------- N O T I C E -------------------------------- For the sake of other subscribers, any whose accounts post automated replies back to the list address will be immediately removed from the list without further notification. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Heading into this holiday stretch -- and also the graduation/end-of-semester period -- it's expected that a number of list subscribers will either be offline temporarily, or in some cases even losing the email addresses at which they are subscribed. *IF* you plan to be out of the office, great! Enjoy! BUT if during your absence your email system is set to send back automated replies explaining your absence -- and possibly also your detailed getaway plans -- PLEASE do the honorable thing & unsubscribe your email address from this list until you'll be back in the office to handle your email. Then re-subscribe (if you so choose) once you're back in the saddle. If you're graduating and losing your email address, it'd be much appreciated if you'd unsubscribe rather than leave it to the list managers to eventually discover your absence. ============================================ * To unsubscribe from the PDF list, send a message to: pdf-request@lists.pdfzone.com with this message in the BODY: unsubscribe * To unsubscribe from the PDF-Digest list, send a message to: pdf-digest-request@lists.pdfzone.com with this message in the BODY: unsubscribe Thanks much for your cooperation! -- Scrooge the list keeper __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 20-Dec-1998 16:51:39-GMT,2892;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA21113 for ; Sun, 20 Dec 1998 09:51:38 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA26137; Sun, 20 Dec 1998 10:44:28 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 20 Dec 1998 10:43:16 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA26023; Sun, 20 Dec 1998 10:43:14 -0600 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19981220164331.009759e4@env-sol.com> X-Sender: thiersch@env-sol.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1998 08:43:31 -0800 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Tom Thiersch Subject: Re: [PDF] Quicktime licensing Cc: sales@pls.com Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Dean, Thanks, I'm well-aware that Apple changed their license requirements. That is, in fact, the reason that I used QT3 to illustrate my point. If enough users complain (are you listening Vincent?), then the marketing dweebs *will* get the point and they will stop trying to shove their advertising requirements down our throats. Even the random QT3 reminder is too intrusive for my taste, so I don't use it, but this case clearly shows that the marketplace's demands can and do influence products' behaviors. So, if we all refuse to use the "free" PLWeb software because of its licensing requirement that we clutter up each search/results page with their AOL logos and links, perhaps they, too, will get the message. Tom Thiersch At 01:51 PM 12/18/98 +0000, you wrote: > >< ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > > >Tom Thiersch wrote: > >> This [PLWeb licensing requirement] is just as obnoxious as Apple >> demanding that you play their Quicktime 3 promo before each movie. > >Hi Tom, > >You do know Apple did eventually sort this out and now only installs the desktop >folder once at installation. Once it's trashed it's gone, although at seemingly >random startups of QT3 std it DOES pop up with the reminder to upgrade to Pro. > >Dean >Real World > __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 21-Dec-1998 1:21:43-GMT,2976;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA29834 for ; Sun, 20 Dec 1998 18:21:42 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA21883; Sun, 20 Dec 1998 19:10:47 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 20 Dec 1998 19:07:25 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA21669; Sun, 20 Dec 1998 19:07:23 -0600 Message-ID: <367D9F34.FE32C00F@nbnet.nb.ca> Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1998 21:07:01 -0400 From: Robert Richard X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Old out of print books and PDF. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > I have a personal project to reedit old out of print books into pdf documents. Then, I could distribute them via the web or DVD. I currently have PhotoShop 5.2 and Adobe Acrobat 3.1. Plus, I have a scanner, the Mustek 1200 III EP (8.5x11.5 inches) that I bought last summer. Scanning books can be very time consuming. What would be considered a very good and fast speed scanner. I need the speed and quality scanning. Now that I have more knowledge on scanners, I should had waited to purchase a better one than the Mustek. It still a reasonable scanner, but I find slow. Furthermore, I read that a good scanner is the HP Scanjet 6200C (PCMag.com editors choice in 10/1998 http://www.zdnet.com/pcmag/features/scanners98/edchoice.html). Would this be considered that type of scanner? My budget is limited. But again, if it means waiting a while longer to get a more expensive one, I can try to increase my savings account. Currently, I am using Pentium 133MHz, Windows98 with 98 MB of RAM. Hopefully, I will be able to upgrade early next year to the Pentium II generation. It would include a better video card, scanner with SCSI card, etc. Any recommendations from the experienced scanner users, combined with Adobe Acrobat, and Photoshop. What are my possibilities? The last messages on the pdf lists has help me better understand my needs. Robert Richard Robertville, New Brunswick Canada. __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 21-Dec-1998 1:21:49-GMT,2361;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA29838 for ; Sun, 20 Dec 1998 18:21:48 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA22471; Sun, 20 Dec 1998 19:19:24 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 20 Dec 1998 19:18:10 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA22352; Sun, 20 Dec 1998 19:18:09 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <367D9F34.FE32C00F@nbnet.nb.ca> Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1998 19:21:34 -0600 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Kurt Foss Subject: Re: [PDF] Old out of print books and PDF. Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > At 7:07 PM -0600 12/20/98, Robert Richard wrote: < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > I have a personal project to reedit old out of print books into pdf documents. Then, I could distribute them via the web or DVD. Have a look at last Friday's PDF Showcase on this same idea ---> http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/showcase/brittle-digital.html rgds ~ Kurt __________________________________________________ * P D F z o n e . C O M * __________________________________________________ 579 D'Onofrio Dr. (608)829-0183 Suite 104 EMAIL: mailto:info@pdfzone.com Madison, WI 53719 WWW: http://www.pdfzone.com/ ------------------------------------------------------------- Lists info: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 21-Dec-1998 6:55:32-GMT,3269;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA05238 for ; Sun, 20 Dec 1998 23:55:31 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA07503; Mon, 21 Dec 1998 00:47:30 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 21 Dec 1998 00:45:18 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA07341; Mon, 21 Dec 1998 00:45:16 -0600 Message-ID: <367E896F.4DDAEFAB@realworld.com.au> Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 17:46:25 +0000 From: Dean Laffan X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Quicktime licensing References: <2.2.32.19981220164331.009759e4@env-sol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Tom Thiersch wrote: > < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > > Dean, > > Thanks, I'm well-aware that Apple changed their license requirements. > > That is, in fact, the reason that I used QT3 to illustrate my point. If > enough users complain (are you listening Vincent?), then the marketing > dweebs *will* get the point and they will stop trying to shove their > advertising requirements down our throats. Be prepared to put in some hard yards. I was one of many who screamed at the time of Apple releasing QT V3 and we had to scream LONG and LOUD until they got the message. > > > Even the random QT3 reminder is too intrusive for my taste, so I don't use > it, but this case clearly shows that the marketplace's demands can and do > influence products' behaviors. Heard a good hack for this recently....re-set your system clock 2-3 years forward, open Movie Player, say Later to the upgrade, Quit Movie Player, re-set your clock, no more upgrade messages for looooong time ! Of course this doesn't address the real problem which is the users who install off our CD's and websites who aren't going to run that hack, or upgrade to Pro. As I've said on list and to Apple on many occasions what is the point of trying to sell end users a developers tool. As a developer I have no trouble in paying a measley $30 for Pro (on the Mac as well as the PC) It woud be like AcroReader users getting a reminder message to upgrade to Capture...... arrrghhhhh! don't get me started :-) Every one have a great Xmas and a happy and safe New Year Dean Real World __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 21-Dec-1998 9:53:13-GMT,3202;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA08615 for ; Mon, 21 Dec 1998 02:53:12 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA16139; Mon, 21 Dec 1998 03:41:16 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 21 Dec 1998 03:37:06 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA15871; Mon, 21 Dec 1998 03:37:03 -0600 Message-ID: <3E814FAC025DD2119D2A00A0C9B1F7BF171951@ntgateway.ultracomp.co.uk> From: Simon Burrows To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com, pdf-digest@lists.pdfzone.com, StevenF@tadirantele.com Subject: [PDF] 'Fuzzy' graphics, PCL priniting problems. Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 09:33:02 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > # #After converting Word documents to pdf I notice that the graphics (bmp #format) display poorly on screen. Sometimes it is necessary to #view the pdf at 200% magnification to be able to read any text in these #graphics. At 100% magnification the graphics appear fuzzy although when I print #them out they are fine. # When you say graphics, do you mean screen captures? If so, you must remember that they are displayed at 72 dpi. In order for screen captures in our manual to appear clear, we import screen captures at 108 dpi. We'd decided that the PDF document to be displayed at 150% when opened. Since 1.5 (150%) * 72 = 108, the pictures look really sharp. So what you need to do is: 1)Work out the magnification your PDF will be displayed at (i.e. 200%) 2)Multiply this by 72 (i.e. 2 * 72 = 144) to work out the required resolution for your graphics (i.e. 144 dpi) 3)Make sure your screen shots are sized at this resolution - simple to do in FrameMaker - not sure about Word. 4)Display the PDF at the selected magnification. Of course, you won't have this problem if you use vector graphics, which should look good regardless of the magnification. As a newbie, apologies if the following question has appeared in old lists. My problem is printing PDFs to *non*postscript printers (a Kyocera 1600, to be precise). Does anyone have any tips to improve the printed quality of screen captures? The post script output works fine. The PDFs are created in FrameMaker 5.0 using Acrobat Distiller and the Apple LaserWriter II NTX printer driver. Thanks, Simon __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 21-Dec-1998 15:13:57-GMT,2664;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA13988 for ; Mon, 21 Dec 1998 08:13:56 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA04762; Mon, 21 Dec 1998 09:05:27 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 21 Dec 1998 09:02:14 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA03949; Mon, 21 Dec 1998 09:02:05 -0600 From: robert.richard@hrdc-drhc.gc.ca Date: Mon, 21 Dec 98 9:59:54 -0500 Message-ID: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) To: Subject: [PDF] ...no subject... X-Incognito-SN: 1396 X-Incognito-Version: 4.11.23 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > To the subscribers of pdfzone list, this request of information is in regards to my project with same telecentre as previous messages. Again, all documents were created solely with Microsoft Word 6.0, it includes text boxes. The documents were converted to pdf using Exchange. Regretfully, I have to use Arial fonts, reason being is our government system policies across Canada. With the limited choice I have, it looks like the best one. With all this said, I have never used Distiller, would it be advisable to use it for our On-line Enquiry Resources? I find that our pdf resources for telecentre looks a little bit fuzzy on screen. I did removed the bold fonts and replace with regular. It help a whole lot with the phone numbers. All pages in the pdf documents has to fit exact screen size for fast viewing by telecentre agents. Agents computers are running with Windows95, using Banyan network on Pentium II 266 MHz. One note, having a better video card would probably help a bit? Robert Richard Human Resources Development Canada Employment Insurance Telecentre Bathurst, New Brunswick Canada. __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 21-Dec-1998 17:12:52-GMT,3100;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA16868 for ; Mon, 21 Dec 1998 10:12:51 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA32762; Mon, 21 Dec 1998 11:06:37 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 21 Dec 1998 11:04:45 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA32587; Mon, 21 Dec 1998 11:04:42 -0600 From: sgililland@nexstar.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: NEXSTAR To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com cc: mstuhley@imtran.com Message-ID: <872566E1.005DE765.00@pigeon.nexstar.com> Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 09:05:13 -0800 Subject: Re: [PDF] Automated PDF rendering & EDMS check-in. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Check with IMTRAN - Mike Stuhley, mstuhley@imtran.com. He might be able to shed some light on your challenge. "Keith, Derek (IMB_Technology)" on 12/17/98 09:21:54 AM Please respond to pdf@lists.pdfzone.com To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" cc: (bcc: Sue Gililland/SanDimas/NeXstar) Subject: [PDF] Automated PDF rendering & EDMS check-in. < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > I am working on a proposal at my company to develop a system that can take a PS printstream from various applications, render it into a PDF, parse the PDF for certain metadata items, and use the metadata to automatically check the document into our Filenet document management system. An example is an invoice. Once the invoice is distilled, it would be parsed (scanned) to extract the client name, invoice date, invoice number, and client ID. These data items are then used during the document management check-in process. The metadata will appear in the same part of the document each time. I was wondering if anyone is aware of some commercially available products that can scan the PDFs for certain metadata. Thanks, Derek __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 21-Dec-1998 17:33:03-GMT,3360;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA17428 for ; Mon, 21 Dec 1998 10:33:02 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA02452; Mon, 21 Dec 1998 11:28:39 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 21 Dec 1998 11:27:19 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA02250; Mon, 21 Dec 1998 11:27:17 -0600 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19981221172201.00972690@env-sol.com> X-Sender: thiersch@env-sol.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 09:22:01 -0800 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Tom Thiersch Subject: Re: [PDF] Fuzzy characters (was "...no subject...") Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Robert, Two things to check for if your characters look fuzzy: 1. (Obvious, but needs to be mentioned) - Make sure your Acrobat Reader/Exchange preferences do NOT have the "smooth text ..." option selected. 2. In the PDF, try to select some of the text (as if you were going to copy it) using the text selection tool; if you cannot select the text, then the TT fonts (Arial) have been placed in the PDF as bitmaps, not as text characters. This is a common problem with TT fonts when inappropriate Distiller/PDFWriter options are used. If this is your problem, there are vast numbers of messages in the archive that you can find which address this issue (hint: look for messages from Dov). Good luck, Tom Thiersch At 09:59 AM 12/21/98 -0500, you wrote: > >< ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > > >The documents were converted to pdf using Exchange. Regretfully, I have to >use Arial fonts, reason being is our government system policies across >Canada. With the limited choice I have, it looks like the best one. With >all this said, I have never used Distiller, would it be advisable to use it >for our On-line Enquiry Resources? I find that our pdf resources for >telecentre looks a little bit fuzzy on screen. I did removed the bold fonts >and replace with regular. It help a whole lot with the phone numbers. All >pages in the pdf documents has to fit exact screen size for fast viewing by >telecentre agents. Agents computers are running with Windows95, using >Banyan network on Pentium II 266 MHz. One note, having a better video card >would probably help a bit? > >Robert Richard >Human Resources Development Canada >Employment Insurance Telecentre >Bathurst, New Brunswick >Canada. > __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 21-Dec-1998 22:09:37-GMT,2008;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA24560 for ; Mon, 21 Dec 1998 15:09:36 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA25394; Mon, 21 Dec 1998 16:01:23 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 21 Dec 1998 15:58:43 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA25125; Mon, 21 Dec 1998 15:58:42 -0600 X-Sender: bpowell@interlog.com (Unverified) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 17:02:38 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Bill Powell Subject: [PDF] Research on Emotional Transition from Hard Copy to PDF " On Screen " Approvals Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > I would like to learn about any research that may exist in this area and where to look for it. I want to overcome the emotional barriers that exist with people in my organization when asked to move from a hard copy approval system to a pdf one. There is always a lot of push back to return to the " old hard copy way" vs on screen approvals. I would appreciate any help in this area. Thank You Bill Powell __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 21-Dec-1998 23:24:39-GMT,3129;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA01592 for ; Mon, 21 Dec 1998 16:24:37 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA31237; Mon, 21 Dec 1998 17:15:59 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 21 Dec 1998 17:13:51 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA31040; Mon, 21 Dec 1998 17:13:49 -0600 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Research on Emotional Transition from Hard Copy to PDF " OnScreen " Approvals Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 23:09:50 -0000 Message-ID: <002401be2d37$88449600$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > I would like to learn about any research that may exist in > this area and > where to look for it. I want to overcome the emotional > barriers that exist > with people in my organization when asked to move from a > hard copy approval > system to a pdf one. There is always a lot of push back to > return to the > " old hard copy way" vs on screen approvals. No formal research here, but I think it is always worth doing what developers are supposed to do, but rarely do - put themselves in the user's place. Ask yourself - what real, definite benefits will this change have for the users? Try and be definite. Don't assume that "it will be quicker" or "it will be more reliable" are plus points for the user. They are plus points for *management*. Similarly, try to come up with a realistic list of the down side. A full, balanced understanding of the user's perspective will help you put over your case and smooth the way in a transition that - almost certainly - the user has very little choice over. Development is often a case of management inflicting change on their staff through the agent of IT. Few people welcome change, which is also something many developers find hard to emphathize with. A genuine understanding of the user's work and their difficulties goes a long, long, way. Aandi __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 22-Dec-1998 6:41:52-GMT,1805;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA18040 for ; Mon, 21 Dec 1998 23:41:50 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA23751; Tue, 22 Dec 1998 00:36:41 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 22 Dec 1998 00:31:43 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA23483; Tue, 22 Dec 1998 00:31:41 -0600 Message-ID: <9195DC50A0BBD11184150020AFFC033E08EEC8@dcvib01> From: Costa-Almeida Antonio SI411 To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Automating Exchange-PlugIn: ImportImage Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 07:31:00 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Hi everybody, I want to convert some hundred multipage Tiff-Files into PDF. Do someone know how to automate the Acrobat Exchange to do this ? Thanks... Bye Antonio C. Almeida mailto: Costa.Almeida@draexlmaier.de __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 22-Dec-1998 9:36:40-GMT,2276;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA21820 for ; Tue, 22 Dec 1998 02:36:39 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA32379; Tue, 22 Dec 1998 03:29:59 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 22 Dec 1998 03:26:45 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA32186; Tue, 22 Dec 1998 03:26:44 -0600 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Automating Exchange-PlugIn: ImportImage Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 08:56:22 -0000 Message-ID: <002a01be2d8d$264a6140$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 In-Reply-To: <9195DC50A0BBD11184150020AFFC033E08EEC8@dcvib01> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > > I want to convert some hundred multipage Tiff-Files into PDF. > Do someone > know how to automate the Acrobat Exchange to do this ? Thanks... > Acrobat Exchange does not have any automation for its Scan, Import, and OCR functions. This is noted in the Developer FAQ (http://beta1.adobe.com/ada/acrosdk). The full Capture product does support automation. If you don't want to do OCR, you may also find a helpful product at http://www.roundtable.com.au. Aandi Inston Quite Software __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 22-Dec-1998 9:37:23-GMT,2331;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA21840 for ; Tue, 22 Dec 1998 02:37:22 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA32766; Tue, 22 Dec 1998 03:35:14 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 22 Dec 1998 03:32:39 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA32554; Tue, 22 Dec 1998 03:32:37 -0600 Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 09:32:28 GMT Message-Id: <199812220932.JAA15495@gilliam.vip.uk.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail and News for Macintosh - 1.1 (34) Subject: [PDF] auto remove and loading of indexes From: john hamlett To: PDF Zone ACROBAT Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > I'm developing an electronic dictionary (cross platform) with search that has to be easy to use. I feel that Acrobat Reader confuses the user by retaining previously installed indexes... the user shouldn't have to remove indexes that have nothing to do with the dictionary themselves. I want to remove Reader's currently installed indexes when my first document is opened, then I want to install my own indexes (minimum of 2). I'm currently using Exchange's FILE:DOCUMENT INFO:INDEX to asign one index at a time, but is there a way of installing multiple indexes in one go? Any help appreciated - Cheers - John ------------------------------------------------------------- John Hamlett - LUNAR MULTIMEDIA - www.lunar.co.uk __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 22-Dec-1998 14:28:05-GMT,7260;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA26785 for ; Tue, 22 Dec 1998 07:28:04 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA15119; Tue, 22 Dec 1998 08:06:48 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 22 Dec 1998 08:02:49 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA14821; Tue, 22 Dec 1998 08:02:47 -0600 Message-Id: <98Dec22.160146gmt+0100.29569-1@baz-s-fw.baz.ch> From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?M=2E_V=E9ron?= To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: AW: [PDF] auto remove and loading of indexes Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 16:57:15 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="---- =_NextPart_000_01BE2DBB.5DB17DC0" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > ------ =_NextPart_000_01BE2DBB.5DB17DC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable John, Removing indexes could be done with a custom plugin for Acrobat = Exchange, but not with Acrobat Reader (for licensing reasons). Adding more than one index could be done with a little workaround: 1. Create a one-page Welcome-PDF (loading first index) 2. Add a cross document link to a second PDF (loading second index) Hope this helps. Marc V=E9ron BMG ComServ AG PDF-Team Hochbergerstr. 15 Postfach CH - 4002 Basel Switzerland Telefon: +41 - 639 16 90 Direkt: +41 - 639 12 58 Fax: +41 - 631 53 10 m.veron@baz.ch http://www.bmgcomserv.ch Das Softwarehaus der Basler Mediengruppe ---------- Von: john hamlett[SMTP:lunar@netmatters.co.uk] Gesendet: Dienstag, 22. Dezember 1998 10:32 An: PDF Zone ACROBAT Betreff: [PDF] auto remove and loading of indexes < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- = > I'm developing an electronic dictionary (cross platform) with search = that has to be easy to use. I feel that Acrobat Reader confuses the user by retaining previously installed indexes... the user shouldn't have to = remove indexes that have nothing to do with the dictionary themselves. I want to remove Reader's currently installed indexes when my first = document is opened, then I want to install my own indexes (minimum of 2). I'm currently using Exchange's FILE:DOCUMENT INFO:INDEX to asign one index = at a time, but is there a way of installing multiple indexes in one go? 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Tue, 22 Dec 1998 08:01:15 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA18789; Tue, 22 Dec 1998 08:54:45 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 22 Dec 1998 08:53:21 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA18612; Tue, 22 Dec 1998 08:53:19 -0600 Message-ID: <01BE2D94.09C7EEA0.masonc@anguillanet.com> From: Chris Mason To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Automating Exchange-PlugIn: ImportImage Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 09:26:44 -0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > You could use Photoshop 5' actions to change all the TIFs to an EPS saved in the distiller "IN" folder, while running Distiller. Distiller will output the files as seperate PDF pages. There is a utility which will combine the pages. I can't remember the name of it, but it was discussed here a while ago. Chris On Tuesday, December 22, 1998 4:56 AM, Aandi Inston [SMTP:quite@dial.pipex.com] wrote: > > < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > > > > > > I want to convert some hundred multipage Tiff-Files into PDF. > > Do someone > > know how to automate the Acrobat Exchange to do this ? Thanks... > > > > Acrobat Exchange does not have any automation for its Scan, Import, > and OCR functions. This is noted in the Developer FAQ > (http://beta1.adobe.com/ada/acrosdk). > > The full Capture product does support automation. > > If you don't want to do OCR, you may also find a helpful product > at http://www.roundtable.com.au. > > Aandi Inston > Quite Software > > __________________________________________________________________ > > PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" > > send for more info: > __________________________________________________________________ > Chris Mason Box 340, The Valley, Anguilla, British West Indies http://net.ai Tel: 264 497 5670 Fax: 264 497 8463 IKVGwx __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 22-Dec-1998 15:26:01-GMT,2923;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA27959 for ; Tue, 22 Dec 1998 08:26:00 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA21358; Tue, 22 Dec 1998 09:22:37 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 22 Dec 1998 09:21:30 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA21198; Tue, 22 Dec 1998 09:21:29 -0600 Message-Id: <367FB8CA.87549DCA@moen.com> Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 10:20:42 -0500 From: Jennifer Amon X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05C-SGI [en] (X11; I; IRIX 6.3 IP32) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Cc: "dbaus@moen.com" , dlubinsk@netmon.hq.moen.com, "pklammer@moen.com" Subject: [PDF] IE 4.0 and Location: [url of pdf] References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Petr.Fexa@WIEN.Materna.DE wrote: > > > > >====> Posted to the PDF discussion list, hosted by The PDFzone <==== > > > > My company has a large database for our client. We need to run reports > >on that database and allow multiple users see them. > > > > . . . > > > > Our problem is in trying to stream the PDF file back to the user. My CGI Hi, If I use IE 4.0 (on NT 4) to go to a url of a pdf, it works. If I use a CGI script to put out a redirect command, like this: #!/usr/local/bin/perl print "Location: http://cape.moen.com/pdf/101333_-v3.pdf\n\n"; exit; it fails. I get an empty window, with the correct URL displayed in the address field. Any insights? Thanks, Jennifer -- _____________________________________________________________________ Jennifer R. Amon Phone: 440-962-2471 Sr. Programmer/Analyst FAX: 440-962-2739 Moen Incorporated Personal: jamon@apk.net 25300 Al Moen Drive Business: jamon@moen.com North Olmsted, OH 44070 Web: http://junior.apk.net/~jamon/ _____________________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 22-Dec-1998 15:26:03-GMT,2496;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA27963 for ; Tue, 22 Dec 1998 08:26:02 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA21154; Tue, 22 Dec 1998 09:21:09 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 22 Dec 1998 09:19:26 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA20991; Tue, 22 Dec 1998 09:19:24 -0600 Message-Id: <199812221519.HAA16899@crane.prod.itd.earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.0c (197) Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 07:23:40 -0700 Subject: [PDF] Multi-platform CD-ROM From: "C. Scott Miller" To: PDF Lists Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Group - I am producing a ISO 9660 CD-ROM of PDF files for Mac, Windows, and UNIX deployment. I am having difficulty with the UNIX, mainly because of lack of convenient access for testing. Does anyone have any hints about the pitfalls of UNIX deployment? I have made sure all of the files are ALL CAPS and 8.3. My concern has more to do with supplying Acrobat Reader+Search on the CD and supplying UNIX installation instructions to the user. Also, if anyone knows of a L.A. area vendor or expert in Acrobat CD-ROM generation (or anyone with a UNIX setup), I am all ears. Thanks and Happy PDF New Year! (1999 is going to be a BIG year!) C. Scott Miller PDF R_e_s_e_a_r_c_h__C_o_m_p_a_n_i_o_n A Designer's Guide to Adobe's Portable Document Format http://www.performancegraphics.com a production of Performance Graphics millercs@performancegraphics.com __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 22-Dec-1998 15:26:29-GMT,3406;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA27973 for ; Tue, 22 Dec 1998 08:26:28 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA21388; Tue, 22 Dec 1998 09:22:59 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 22 Dec 1998 09:21:49 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA21227; Tue, 22 Dec 1998 09:21:47 -0600 Message-ID: <01BE2D94.0F11FF40@c209-135-207-133.kivex.com> From: Dae-Hee Lee To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Combining PDF Files Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 10:15:49 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id JAA21222 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > PDFers, You don't need any of the special tools, utilities, etc. to combine multiple PDF files into a single PDF. I found the following information from Adobe re: combining two or more PDF files into a single document in Windows. Before using drag-and-drop to insert PDF documents from File Manager, set up your Windows environment so that Acrobat Exchange and File Manager are the only two open applications. These applications should not take up the entire desktop and should not be either maximized or minimized. Drag the files from the File Manager to the document area of the open PDF file, and click OK. The insert dialog box appears. If you drag the file to the overview area below the thumbnail for a page, a dialog box appears asking you to confirm the insertion of the files after that page. Click Before to insert the document before the specified page. Click After to insert the page after the specified page. In the Page Box, specify the page before or after which the document is to be inserted, you have the option of clicking First or Last. By default, the file is inserted immediately after the current page. If more than one document (file) is inserted, the first document is inserted in the position indicated by the insert dialog box, and all other documents are inserted in the order that they appear in the File Manager, according to how they are sorted (date, size, name, so forth). * I've been seeing messages on the list re: combining PDF files, and the above procedure has helped me immensely. Hope this "tip" from Adobe helps someone else. Happy Holidays. Dae-Hee Lee Director of Electronic Publishing Maryland Composition Co., Inc. 6711 Dover Road Glen Burnie, MD 21060 (410) 760-7900 x3020 [voice] (410) 760-5295 [fax] __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 22-Dec-1998 15:42:21-GMT,2368;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA28390 for ; Tue, 22 Dec 1998 08:42:20 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA22925; Tue, 22 Dec 1998 09:36:41 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 22 Dec 1998 09:35:23 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA22719; Tue, 22 Dec 1998 09:35:22 -0600 Message-Id: <199812221535.JAA22704@everglades.binc.net> Date: 22 Dec 98 10:30:59 -0500 From: Justin Blocksom Subject: RE: [PDF] Automating Exchange-PlugIn: ImportImage To: pdf X-Mailer: QuickMail Pro 1.5.2 (Mac) X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-Ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id JAA22712 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Reply to: RE: [PDF] Automating Exchange-PlugIn: ImportImage >You could use Photoshop 5' actions to change all the TIFs to an EPS saved >in the distiller "IN" folder, while running Distiller. Distiller will >output the files as seperate PDF pages. There is a utility which will >combine the pages. I can't remember the name of it, but it was discussed >here a while ago. >Chris > Now there's a creative idea! That's pretty good, I never thought of that. :-{)} . Justin Blocksom jblocksom@printandpub.com . >> > >> > I want to convert some hundred multipage Tiff-Files into PDF. >> > Do someone >> > know how to automate the Acrobat Exchange to do this ? Thanks... __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 22-Dec-1998 15:44:27-GMT,2413;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA28407 for ; Tue, 22 Dec 1998 08:44:26 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA23463; Tue, 22 Dec 1998 09:40:43 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 22 Dec 1998 09:39:35 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA23308; Tue, 22 Dec 1998 09:39:33 -0600 Message-Id: <367FB984.9FF29A4D@moen.com> Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 10:23:48 -0500 From: Jennifer Amon X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05C-SGI [en] (X11; I; IRIX 6.3 IP32) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] IE 4.0 and Location: [url of pdf] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > [Sorry for the extraneous stuff in the last message.] Hi, If I use IE 4.0 (on NT 4) to go to a url of a pdf, it works. If I use a CGI script to put out a redirect command, like this: #!/usr/local/bin/perl print "Location: http://cape.moen.com/pdf/101333_-v3.pdf\n\n"; exit; it fails. I get an empty window, with the correct URL displayed in the address field. Any insights? Thanks, Jennifer -- _____________________________________________________________________ Jennifer R. Amon Phone: 440-962-2471 Sr. Programmer/Analyst FAX: 440-962-2739 Moen Incorporated Personal: jamon@apk.net 25300 Al Moen Drive Business: jamon@moen.com North Olmsted, OH 44070 Web: http://junior.apk.net/~jamon/ _____________________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 22-Dec-1998 15:54:11-GMT,2857;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA28635 for ; Tue, 22 Dec 1998 08:54:10 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA24558; Tue, 22 Dec 1998 09:49:12 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 22 Dec 1998 09:47:45 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA24350; Tue, 22 Dec 1998 09:47:43 -0600 From: "Michael McDonald" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Automating Exchange-PlugIn: ImportImage Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 10:46:37 -0500 Message-ID: <000001be2dc2$42aa1260$d1df45cf@pinetec1> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <199812221535.JAA22704@everglades.binc.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > The package from Ambia Corp. called Compose works great for combining PDFs. It also has quite a few other very useful plug-ins. I use it daily in my work. Michael McDonald mcdonaldm@pinetec.com > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com [mailto:owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com]On > Behalf Of Justin Blocksom > Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 1998 10:31 AM > To: pdf > Subject: RE: [PDF] Automating Exchange-PlugIn: ImportImage > > > > < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > > Reply to: RE: [PDF] Automating Exchange-PlugIn: ImportImage > >You could use Photoshop 5' actions to change all the TIFs to an > EPS saved >in the distiller "IN" folder, while running Distiller. > Distiller will >output the files as seperate PDF pages. There is > a utility which will >combine the pages. I can't remember the > name of it, but it was discussed >here a while ago. > >Chris > > > Now there's a creative idea! That's pretty good, I never thought > of that. :-{)} > . > Justin Blocksom > jblocksom@printandpub.com __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 22-Dec-1998 16:38:37-GMT,3801;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA29708 for ; Tue, 22 Dec 1998 09:38:36 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA29904; Tue, 22 Dec 1998 10:32:04 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 22 Dec 1998 10:29:51 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA29596; Tue, 22 Dec 1998 10:29:50 -0600 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19981222162910.0095f448@env-sol.com> X-Sender: thiersch@env-sol.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 08:29:10 -0800 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Tom Thiersch Subject: Re: AW: [PDF] auto remove and loading of indexes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id KAA29591 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > As I understand it, it's legal to create plug-ins for Reader as long as they don't change the content or display characteristics of the document (e.g., rotating, cropping, etc.). There is no alteration of the actual documents involved in manipulating indexes for the purposes described, so I don't see why/how this violates the license. What specific "licensing reasons" are you referring to? Tom Thiersch At 04:57 PM 12/22/98 +0100, you wrote: >John, > >Removing indexes could be done with a custom plugin for Acrobat Exchange, but not with Acrobat Reader (for licensing reasons). > >Adding more than one index could be done with a little workaround: >1. Create a one-page Welcome-PDF (loading first index) >2. Add a cross document link to a second PDF (loading second index) > >Hope this helps. > >Marc Véron > >BMG ComServ AG >PDF-Team >Hochbergerstr. 15 >Postfach >CH - 4002 Basel >Switzerland > >Telefon: +41 - 639 16 90 >Direkt: +41 - 639 12 58 >Fax: +41 - 631 53 10 > >m.veron@baz.ch >http://www.bmgcomserv.ch > >Das Softwarehaus der Basler Mediengruppe > > >---------- >Von: john hamlett[SMTP:lunar@netmatters.co.uk] >Gesendet: Dienstag, 22. Dezember 1998 10:32 >An: PDF Zone ACROBAT >Betreff: [PDF] auto remove and loading of indexes > > >< ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > > >I'm developing an electronic dictionary (cross platform) with search that >has to be easy to use. I feel that Acrobat Reader confuses the user by >retaining previously installed indexes... the user shouldn't have to remove >indexes that have nothing to do with the dictionary themselves. > >I want to remove Reader's currently installed indexes when my first document >is opened, then I want to install my own indexes (minimum of 2). I'm >currently using Exchange's FILE:DOCUMENT INFO:INDEX to asign one index at a >time, but is there a way of installing multiple indexes in one go? > >Any help appreciated - Cheers - John > >------------------------------------------------------------- >John Hamlett - LUNAR MULTIMEDIA - www.lunar.co.uk > __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 22-Dec-1998 16:39:24-GMT,2790;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA29713 for ; Tue, 22 Dec 1998 09:39:23 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA30201; Tue, 22 Dec 1998 10:33:55 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 22 Dec 1998 10:32:44 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA29959; Tue, 22 Dec 1998 10:32:42 -0600 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 12:29:21 +0000 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: David R Evans Subject: Re: [PDF] auto remove and loading of indexes In-Reply-To: <199812220932.JAA15495@gilliam.vip.uk.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Version 3.03a Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > In message <199812220932.JAA15495@gilliam.vip.uk.com>, john hamlett wrote: >I want to remove Reader's currently installed indexes when my first document >is opened, then I want to install my own indexes (minimum of 2). I'm >currently using Exchange's FILE:DOCUMENT INFO:INDEX to asign one index at a >time, but is there a way of installing multiple indexes in one go? I don't know of anything that unloads indexes at startup, but that would be simple for a plug-in developer to build. We will launching Multi-Index in January. This will allow multiple indexes to be loaded for a single PDF document, and unloaded at document close or Acrobat close time. For more details e-mail me privately. Regards David --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dr David R Evans Telephone: (+44) 115 9860048 / 9514230 Merlin Open Systems Facsimile: (+44) 115 9860048 P O Box 230 E-mail: dre@merlin-os.co.uk NOTTINGHAM WWW: http://www.merlin-os.co.uk/ NG2 1LJ, UK Acrobat resellers, specialists in Adobe Acrobat plug-ins and electronic publishing software, publishers of Acrobatics __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 22-Dec-1998 19:26:26-GMT,1977;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA03572 for ; Tue, 22 Dec 1998 12:26:25 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA13250; Tue, 22 Dec 1998 13:17:14 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 22 Dec 1998 13:13:28 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA12803; Tue, 22 Dec 1998 13:13:26 -0600 Message-ID: <61EFB2F4D374D111AB160001FAD4392301A7440C@atlexchange2.ces.net> From: "Conrey, Karen" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Link from PDF file to Email? Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 14:12:41 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Is there a way to make an email address in a PDF document a link so that clicking on it will automatically bring up the user's email program? We're using FrameMaker 5.5 as a source document, and I don't see a way to do it there and have it carry through to PDF, but is there a way to do it after conversion using Exchange? Thanks very much, Karen Conrey Ceridian Employer Services Karen.Conrey@ceridian.com (678) 443-8846 __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 22-Dec-1998 19:41:48-GMT,2329;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA03913 for ; Tue, 22 Dec 1998 12:41:47 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA15267; Tue, 22 Dec 1998 13:36:46 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 22 Dec 1998 13:35:27 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA15071; Tue, 22 Dec 1998 13:35:26 -0600 Message-ID: From: "Williams, Dane/ATL" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] PDFiFilter and MS Index Server Problems Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 12:35:15 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Does anyone have experience with the Adobe "PDF IFILTER", which works with the Microsoft Index Server (allowing PDF files to be both Indexed and full-text Searched) ? I had this setup working properly on my WebServer and now for some unknown reason the PDF files are no longer appearing in the search results. They appear to be indexed (based on the file count in the MS index server interface) but never appear in the search results. I have uninstalled&reinstalled, reconfigured, rescanned,... every conceivable component and cannot get the PDF files to again be recognized. If anyone has any suggestions or experience I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks, Dane Dane Williams GIS Imaging Specialist Information Solutions, CH2M HILL / ATL __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 22-Dec-1998 19:48:56-GMT,2941;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA04076 for ; Tue, 22 Dec 1998 12:48:55 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA16091; Tue, 22 Dec 1998 13:44:29 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 22 Dec 1998 13:43:15 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA15943; Tue, 22 Dec 1998 13:43:09 -0600 Message-ID: <01BE2DB9.45376310.David_Tamburello@mazer.com> From: Dave Tamburello To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Link from PDF file to Email? Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 14:42:14 -0800 Organization: Mazer Corporation X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Karen, This works as a www link action with mailto:anyuser@anyplace.com as the URI. Setting the action in this manner creates a link or form field that opens first the browser, then the mail program with the address you specified in the URI placed automatically in the TO field. David M. Tamburello Training Specialist Mazer ePublishing (616) 285-3900 ext 232 -----Original Message----- From: Conrey, Karen [SMTP:Karen.Conrey@ceridian.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 1998 11:13 AM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Link from PDF file to Email? < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Is there a way to make an email address in a PDF document a link so that clicking on it will automatically bring up the user's email program? We're using FrameMaker 5.5 as a source document, and I don't see a way to do it there and have it carry through to PDF, but is there a way to do it after conversion using Exchange? Thanks very much, Karen Conrey Ceridian Employer Services Karen.Conrey@ceridian.com (678) 443-8846 __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 22-Dec-1998 20:05:05-GMT,2128;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA04532 for ; Tue, 22 Dec 1998 13:05:03 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA17402; Tue, 22 Dec 1998 13:58:19 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 22 Dec 1998 13:57:02 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA17228; Tue, 22 Dec 1998 13:56:59 -0600 Message-ID: From: Daniel Grammlich To: "PDF (E-mail)" Subject: [PDF] Enlarge page Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 11:54:23 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Does anybody know about a way to enlarge PDF-Files? My problem is, that we already have existing PDF-Files, and we should have a white border/space around the image. We use the PDF's for proofing, and we'd like to add some comments in this area. So we'd like to enlarge the bounding box. I found some tools to crop the page down, but none of these plug-in's give us the posibility to "crop them up" Is there a way to do that either in Exchange or does someone know about a plug-in? Daniel Grammlich DGrammlich@Blakeprintery.com (805) 597 7558 __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 22-Dec-1998 20:05:55-GMT,9105;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA04567 for ; Tue, 22 Dec 1998 13:05:54 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA17805; Tue, 22 Dec 1998 14:02:28 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 22 Dec 1998 14:01:23 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA17643; Tue, 22 Dec 1998 14:01:20 -0600 Message-Id: <98Dec22.220013gmt+0100.29569-1@baz-s-fw.baz.ch> From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?M=2E_V=E9ron?= To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: AW: AW: [PDF] auto remove and loading of indexes Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 22:55:37 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="---- =_NextPart_000_01BE2DED.714B1E40" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > ------ =_NextPart_000_01BE2DED.714B1E40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sorry, I mistaked with the licensing reasons. The functions are simply = not available.=20 The Acrobat Search Plug-in API Specification says: "The Search plug-in = API is only available with Acrobat Exchange - not the Acrobat Reader." This was clarified in the 2 December 1996 issue of the Search Plug-in = API Specification. Marc ---------- Von: Tom Thiersch[SMTP:thiersch@env-sol.com] Gesendet: Dienstag, 22. Dezember 1998 17:29 An: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Betreff: Re: AW: [PDF] auto remove and loading of indexes < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- = > As I understand it, it's legal to create plug-ins for Reader as long as = they don't change the content or display characteristics of the document = (e.g., rotating, cropping, etc.). There is no alteration of the actual documents involved in manipulating indexes for the purposes described, so I don't see why/how this violates = the license. What specific "licensing reasons" are you referring to? Tom Thiersch At 04:57 PM 12/22/98 +0100, you wrote: >John, > >Removing indexes could be done with a custom plugin for Acrobat = Exchange, but not with Acrobat Reader (for licensing reasons). > >Adding more than one index could be done with a little workaround: >1. Create a one-page Welcome-PDF (loading first index) >2. Add a cross document link to a second PDF (loading second index) > >Hope this helps. > >Marc V=E9ron > >BMG ComServ AG >PDF-Team >Hochbergerstr. 15 >Postfach >CH - 4002 Basel >Switzerland > >Telefon: +41 - 639 16 90 >Direkt: +41 - 639 12 58 >Fax: +41 - 631 53 10 > >m.veron@baz.ch >http://www.bmgcomserv.ch > >Das Softwarehaus der Basler Mediengruppe > > >---------- >Von: john hamlett[SMTP:lunar@netmatters.co.uk] >Gesendet: Dienstag, 22. Dezember 1998 10:32 >An: PDF Zone ACROBAT >Betreff: [PDF] auto remove and loading of indexes > > >< ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 = -- > > > >I'm developing an electronic dictionary (cross platform) with search = that >has to be easy to use. I feel that Acrobat Reader confuses the user by >retaining previously installed indexes... the user shouldn't have to = remove >indexes that have nothing to do with the dictionary themselves. > >I want to remove Reader's currently installed indexes when my first = document >is opened, then I want to install my own indexes (minimum of 2). 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PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 22-Dec-1998 20:26:08-GMT,2450;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA05085 for ; Tue, 22 Dec 1998 13:26:07 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA19342; Tue, 22 Dec 1998 14:21:29 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 22 Dec 1998 14:19:17 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA19137; Tue, 22 Dec 1998 14:19:16 -0600 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Link from PDF file to Email? Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 20:16:39 -0000 Message-ID: <003c01be2de8$4dbf5540$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 In-Reply-To: <61EFB2F4D374D111AB160001FAD4392301A7440C@atlexchange2.ces.net> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > Is there a way to make an email address in a PDF document a > link so that > clicking on it will automatically bring up the user's email program? > > We're using FrameMaker 5.5 as a source document, and I don't > see a way to do > it there and have it carry through to PDF, but is there a way > to do it after > conversion using Exchange? It won't talk to the user's mail program, but it will talk to their browser, and if you are lucky that will talk to their mail program. (If you are lucky - many people, like me, deliberately do not set their browsers up so they can send mail). Define a mailto: URL link. Should be able to do this in Frame. Aandi __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 22-Dec-1998 20:26:09-GMT,1930;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA05086 for ; Tue, 22 Dec 1998 13:26:07 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA19352; Tue, 22 Dec 1998 14:21:33 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 22 Dec 1998 14:19:17 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA19121; Tue, 22 Dec 1998 14:19:14 -0600 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Enlarge page Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 20:05:59 -0000 Message-ID: <003b01be2de8$4cbbef00$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > Does anybody know about a way to enlarge PDF-Files? Quite A Box Of Tricks can scale PDF files. http://www.quite.com/box/ Aandi Inston Quite Software __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 22-Dec-1998 21:00:06-GMT,2837;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA05903 for ; Tue, 22 Dec 1998 14:00:05 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA22131; Tue, 22 Dec 1998 14:54:25 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 22 Dec 1998 14:52:51 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA21951; Tue, 22 Dec 1998 14:52:50 -0600 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19981222204716.0096b338@env-sol.com> X-Sender: thiersch@env-sol.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 12:47:16 -0800 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Tom Thiersch Subject: Re: [PDF] Enlarge page Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Try printing the PDF to a PS "file" printer (e.g., DISTASST), but selecting a larger output page size than the PDF original size; then Distill the result. This should produce the original PDF, centered within a white border of whatever size you want. Tom Thiersch At 11:54 AM 12/22/98 -0800, you wrote: > >< ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > >Does anybody know about a way to enlarge PDF-Files? >My problem is, that we already have existing PDF-Files, and we should have a >white border/space around the image. >We use the PDF's for proofing, and we'd like to add some comments in this >area. >So we'd like to enlarge the bounding box. >I found some tools to crop the page down, but none of these plug-in's give >us the posibility to "crop them up" >Is there a way to do that either in Exchange or does someone know about a >plug-in? > >Daniel Grammlich >DGrammlich@Blakeprintery.com >(805) 597 7558 > > >__________________________________________________________________ > >PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" > >send for more info: >__________________________________________________________________ > > __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 22-Dec-1998 21:50:34-GMT,3756;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA07226 for ; Tue, 22 Dec 1998 14:50:33 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA25853; Tue, 22 Dec 1998 15:42:51 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 22 Dec 1998 15:39:37 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA25592; Tue, 22 Dec 1998 15:39:34 -0600 X-Sender: prodok@pop.eunet.ch Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 22:28:48 +0100 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Max Wyss Subject: Re: [PDF] Enlarge page Cc: Daniel Grammlich Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Daniel, there are a few ways to achieve what you are looking for. 1. Forms: Assumed that you have already removed all the cropping, you could either create an empty document with the same number of pages of bigger size. You then create a button form field which has no action and is "icon only". As icon, you will use the original document. 2. EPS: You create EPS files from every page and place them in a new bigger Framemaker/Quark/Pagemaker document. 3. Quite Imposing: Again, you will create an empty document with the bigger page size. Then you use the Quite Imposing plug-in and impose your pages. 4. PitStop: Again, you create an empty document with the bigger page size. You add this document to the original document. Then you use the PitStop plug-in to copy the page contents from the original page to a bigger empty page. You repeat this page by page. If your original document contains form fields, you will copy them in a second pass. 5. Hacker's delight (don't do that at home ): You open the PDF document in a good programming editor, such as BBEdit. Then you look for all /MediaBox entries and change their parameters. You may also have to change the /Cropbox parameters. Resave and hope that the programming editor has not mangled anything with the binary parts of the PDF file. Hope this can help. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering AG Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch WWW: http://www.prodok.ch/prodok Bridging the Knowledge Gap ______________________ >Does anybody know about a way to enlarge PDF-Files? >My problem is, that we already have existing PDF-Files, and we should have a >white border/space around the image. >We use the PDF's for proofing, and we'd like to add some comments in this >area. >So we'd like to enlarge the bounding box. >I found some tools to crop the page down, but none of these plug-in's give >us the posibility to "crop them up" >Is there a way to do that either in Exchange or does someone know about a >plug-in? > >Daniel Grammlich __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 22-Dec-1998 22:20:56-GMT,3966;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA08026 for ; Tue, 22 Dec 1998 15:20:55 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA28501; Tue, 22 Dec 1998 16:14:45 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 22 Dec 1998 16:13:18 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA28407; Tue, 22 Dec 1998 16:13:13 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: kfoss@mailbag.com Message-Id: Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 16:11:47 -0600 To: PDF@lists.pdfzone.com From: Kurt Foss Subject: [PDF] Announcing PDF-Basics list Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Late last week we launched a new email discussion list, based in part on requests and feedback we've received over time. 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Scalzetti" Subject: RE: [PDF] Automating Exchange-PlugIn: ImportImage In-reply-to: <199812221535.JAA22704@everglades.binc.net> X-Sender: scalzete@vax.cs.hscsyr.edu To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-id: <3.0.6.32.19981222172719.00845ac0@vax.cs.hscsyr.edu> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > If you have Photoshop 5, why not set up an action to generate the PDF pages directly and skip the Distill step? Of course, you still have to combine the individual pages into a multipage PDF. Regards, Ernest At 10:30 AM 12/22/98 -0500, you wrote: > > Reply to: RE: [PDF] Automating Exchange-PlugIn: ImportImage >>You could use Photoshop 5' actions to change all the TIFs to an EPS saved >in the distiller "IN" folder, while running Distiller. Distiller will >output the files as separate PDF pages. There is a utility which will >combine the pages. I can't remember the name of it, but it was discussed >here a while ago. >>Chris >> >Now there's a creative idea! That's pretty good, I never thought of that. :-{)} >. >Justin Blocksom >jblocksom@printandpub.com >. >>> > >>> > I want to convert some hundred multipage Tiff-Files into PDF. >>> > Do someone >>> > know how to automate the Acrobat Exchange to do this ? 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I am converting thousands of WP5.1 pages with screens generated with line characters to Word and Ventura files. These line characters appear fine in a TrueType Courier font, but when I create PDF files they look terrible because they aren't a Postscript font. The postscript Courier font yields dots instead of lines. Does anyone know of a postscript monospace font that has line draw characters? I looked at the Adobe website and didn't see one to purchase. Thanks for your help, Laurie <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> Laurie Ruggles Fabric Connoisseur/Digitizing Princess Queen of Software, Online Goddess - DNRC - 8-22-96 Technical Writer - "Directions are my life" <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> mailto:pckitty@pckitty.com ICQ:353480 http://www.pckitty.com/ __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 22-Dec-1998 23:56:43-GMT,2700;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA10331 for ; Tue, 22 Dec 1998 16:56:42 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA03648; Tue, 22 Dec 1998 17:51:30 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 22 Dec 1998 17:48:41 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA03410; Tue, 22 Dec 1998 17:48:40 -0600 Message-ID: <36802FCE.EF09DD29@pckitty.com> Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 15:48:30 -0800 From: Laurie Organization: http://www.pckitty.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: WORD-PC Mailing List , PDF List , Daily Word Tips List , Ventura List Subject: [PDF] Searching for monospace font with lines Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > I need help! I am converting thousands of WP5.1 pages with screens generated with line characters to Word and Ventura files. These line characters appear fine in a TrueType Courier font, but when I create PDF files they look terrible because they aren't a Postscript font. The Postscript Courier font yields dots instead of lines. Does anyone know of a postscript monospace font that has line draw characters? I looked at the Adobe website and didn't see one to purchase. Thanks for your help, Laurie <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> Laurie Ruggles Fabric Connoisseur/Digitizing Princess Queen of Software, Online Goddess - DNRC - 8-22-96 Technical Writer - "Directions are my life" <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> mailto:pckitty@pckitty.com ICQ:353480 http://www.pckitty.com/ __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 23-Dec-1998 0:51:35-GMT,2549;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA11494 for ; Tue, 22 Dec 1998 17:51:34 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA05772; Tue, 22 Dec 1998 18:24:28 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 22 Dec 1998 18:22:39 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA05646; Tue, 22 Dec 1998 18:22:37 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19981222192240.008727d0@spc.sugar-land.omnes.net> X-Sender: ziegler@spc.sugar-land.omnes.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 19:22:40 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Wolfgang Ziegler Subject: [PDF] Remote Index not 'sticking' to PDF document In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.19981222172719.00845ac0@vax.cs.hscsyr.edu> References: <199812221535.JAA22704@everglades.binc.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Hi everyone, I have a set of indexed documents on a server on our intranet which will be accessed by group members. My understanding is that the remote drive needs to be mapped as a network drive in order to make an index available in Reader (otherwise it is grayed out). On a couple of simple introductory PDF docs I explain to the users how to do this and the last one is supposed to load the remote index. I used (File -> DocumentInfo -> Index), select the remote index and save the doc, but it will not be listed in the index list the next time the document is opened - but I can always add it manually. Is it impossible to automatically load a remote index when a PDF is opened - ? Happy Holidays and thank you for maintaining and contributing to this list! Wolfgang Ziegler __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 23-Dec-1998 1:07:38-GMT,2561;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA11804 for ; Tue, 22 Dec 1998 18:07:37 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA07898; Tue, 22 Dec 1998 18:59:01 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 22 Dec 1998 18:57:43 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA07781; Tue, 22 Dec 1998 18:57:42 -0600 Message-ID: <36803FFD.83669C92@nbnet.nb.ca> Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 20:57:33 -0400 From: Robert Richard X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] PDF phone book and links. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > I have a small project to convert our building paper phone book -printed every month- into pdf. There are over 500 employees in the building. Most often, changes occcuring each month are minor. The current format has been built solely with Microsoft Word 6.0. The editing is presented so that each employee with phone number/position are listed under their respective department. My goal is to cut/copy all names from the original document and paste them in alphabetical order in a brand new document, like a telephone book. Then, I would link all 500 names to a one page detailed information on their respective departments: mailing address, phone numbers, fax #, director name, secretay, etc. My question, how can I make links that will remain even though daily updates will be inputed in this newly created resources? Probably impossible, because the links are memorize physically rather than logically. Any suggestions. Robert Richard HRD-Canada Bathurst, New Brunswick Canada. __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 23-Dec-1998 1:42:50-GMT,3571;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA12612 for ; Tue, 22 Dec 1998 18:42:49 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA09928; Tue, 22 Dec 1998 19:34:42 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 22 Dec 1998 19:32:58 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA09793; Tue, 22 Dec 1998 19:32:56 -0600 Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 20:32:18 -0500 From: olaf druemmer Subject: Re: [PDF] Enlarge page To: PDF listserver Message-ID: <199812222032_MC2-648D-9016@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id TAA09786 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Daniel, have a look at pdfCropMark (part of pdfToolbox) - download demo from www.callas.de: adds crop marks (and increeases page size/bounding box). If you throw in custom crop and reg marks (empty ones...) it will simply add those (leaving you with a white border to your pages). Olaf Druemmer >>> --- Daniel Grammlich wrote: --- <<< > > >< ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > >Does anybody know about a way to enlarge PDF-Files? >My problem is, that we already have existing PDF-Files, and we should have a >white border/space around the image. >We use the PDF's for proofing, and we'd like to add some comments in this >area. >So we'd like to enlarge the bounding box. >I found some tools to crop the page down, but none of these plug-in's give >us the posibility to "crop them up" >Is there a way to do that either in Exchange or does someone know about a >plug-in? > >Daniel Grammlich >DGrammlich@Blakeprintery.com >(805) 597 7558 > > >__________________________________________________________________ > >PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" > >send for more info: >__________________________________________________________________ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Olaf Druemmer ------------------------------------------------------------------------- callas software gmbh Tel +49.30.44390310 Leonardo +49.30.44390311 Pappelallee 9 Fax +49.30.4416402 connect.pdf +49.30.44342391 D 10437 Berlin callas@compuserve.com http://www.callas.de ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Download 'White Paper PDF for Prepress': http://www.callas.de/pdf_wp.pdf ------------------------------------------------------------------------- __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 23-Dec-1998 3:42:15-GMT,4662;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA14837 for ; Tue, 22 Dec 1998 20:42:14 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA16935; Tue, 22 Dec 1998 21:35:56 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 22 Dec 1998 21:32:48 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA16703; Tue, 22 Dec 1998 21:32:46 -0600 From: "Jim Cullen" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Combining PDF Files Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1998 22:37:03 -0500 Message-ID: <000e01be2e25$818690e0$208799d1@oemcomputer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 In-Reply-To: <01BE2D94.0F11FF40@c209-135-207-133.kivex.com> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > I wanted to point out an inconsistency I've had with this technique. I'm not sure if this is still a problem or not but I thought I should mention it. If you select a group of pages (say in numeric order) and click on the last item to drag the document to Acrobat, that page is thrown out of sequence. I combined 4000 thousand of pages in 100 page groups then had to sort ever 100th page. To get around this, highlight the files then click and drag on the first one (The selected page has a border around it.) -----Original Message----- From: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com [mailto:owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com] On Behalf Of Dae-Hee Lee Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 1998 10:16 AM To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' Subject: [PDF] Combining PDF Files < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > PDFers, You don't need any of the special tools, utilities, etc. to combine multiple PDF files into a single PDF. I found the following information from Adobe re: combining two or more PDF files into a single document in Windows. Before using drag-and-drop to insert PDF documents from File Manager, set up your Windows environment so that Acrobat Exchange and File Manager are the only two open applications. These applications should not take up the entire desktop and should not be either maximized or minimized. Drag the files from the File Manager to the document area of the open PDF file, and click OK. The insert dialog box appears. If you drag the file to the overview area below the thumbnail for a page, a dialog box appears asking you to confirm the insertion of the files after that page. Click Before to insert the document before the specified page. Click After to insert the page after the specified page. In the Page Box, specify the page before or after which the document is to be inserted, you have the option of clicking First or Last. By default, the file is inserted immediately after the current page. If more than one document (file) is inserted, the first document is inserted in the position indicated by the insert dialog box, and all other documents are inserted in the order that they appear in the File Manager, according to how they are sorted (date, size, name, so forth). * I've been seeing messages on the list re: combining PDF files, and the above procedure has helped me immensely. Hope this "tip" from Adobe helps someone else. Happy Holidays. Dae-Hee Lee Director of Electronic Publishing Maryland Composition Co., Inc. 6711 Dover Road Glen Burnie, MD 21060 (410) 760-7900 x3020 [voice] (410) 760-5295 [fax] __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 23-Dec-1998 5:31:45-GMT,2260;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA16784 for ; Tue, 22 Dec 1998 22:31:44 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA23142; Tue, 22 Dec 1998 23:24:00 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 22 Dec 1998 23:22:24 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA23040; Tue, 22 Dec 1998 23:22:22 -0600 Message-ID: <36807A5E.A57C1FAD@pacific.net.sg> Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1998 13:06:38 +0800 From: jo leong X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Links from buttons X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Hi, I'm trying to find a way to create links from buttons. The go to view doesn't allow changing of pages from the button action. I've tried the trial version of name-it plugin, but I'm trying to avoid having to use another plug-in for the reader. I tried using Javascript gotoNamedDest with the named destinations created by the name-it plugin but it apparently doesn't work (seems that you still need a plugin for the reader - I thought that was strange). Someone suggested linking to articles, but the problem is that the view always zooms in to the article - I'm trying to maintain this at 100% rather than zoom in to the article. Does anyone have any solutions. Thanks in advance. Jo __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 23-Dec-1998 9:26:16-GMT,4266;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA21355 for ; Wed, 23 Dec 1998 02:26:15 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA01841; Wed, 23 Dec 1998 03:19:42 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 23 Dec 1998 03:16:19 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA01657; Wed, 23 Dec 1998 03:16:17 -0600 Message-Id: <98Dec23.111513gmt+0100.29569-1@baz-s-fw.baz.ch> From: Yannick Wolf To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Cc: "'DWillia6@CH2M.com'" Subject: Re:[PDF] PDFiFilter and MS Index Server Problems Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1998 10:17:31 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id DAA01652 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Hi Dane What server do you use? IIS 3.0 or IIS 4.0? What version of Index Server, what version of pdf IFilter? Otherwise try the following: (this is a previous mail from me) ------------------- Hi Karen, We are running IIS 4.0 + Index Server 2.0 + PDF IFilter 1.1b. It was tricky to make it work, but now it works like a charm. Do the following: 1- Be sure to download the last version (1.1b) of the pdf IFilter, 2- Stop the services, 3- Install PDF Filter 1.1b, 4- Manually add "pdffilt.dll" to the following key in the registry: HEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\system\CurrentControlSet\Control\ContentIndex\DllsToRegister 5- Start again your services, and reindex your pdf files (In the Index Server Management Console, right click on your pdf directory, and select "Rescan") We have used the standard sample search page, without any problems... And then it works!!! Feel free to email me if you encounter problems Hope it helps, Yannick -------------------- Yannick ===================== Yannick Wolf PDF Team BMG ComServ Das Softwarehaus der Basler Mediengruppe Hochbergerstrasse 15 CH-4002 Basel, Postfach Tel :++4161 639 16 84 Fax :++4161 631 53 10 Mail : y.wolf@baz.ch http://www.bmgcomserv.ch ===================== ---------- Von: Williams, Dane/ATL[SMTP:DWillia6@CH2M.com] Gesendet: Dienstag, 22. Dezember 1998 20:35 An: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' Betreff: [PDF] PDFiFilter and MS Index Server Problems < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Does anyone have experience with the Adobe "PDF IFILTER", which works with the Microsoft Index Server (allowing PDF files to be both Indexed and full-text Searched) ? I had this setup working properly on my WebServer and now for some unknown reason the PDF files are no longer appearing in the search results. They appear to be indexed (based on the file count in the MS index server interface) but never appear in the search results. I have uninstalled&reinstalled, reconfigured, rescanned,... every conceivable component and cannot get the PDF files to again be recognized. If anyone has any suggestions or experience I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks, Dane Dane Williams GIS Imaging Specialist Information Solutions, CH2M HILL / ATL __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 23-Dec-1998 11:59:23-GMT,2719;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA24024 for ; Wed, 23 Dec 1998 04:59:22 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA09095; Wed, 23 Dec 1998 05:53:28 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 23 Dec 1998 05:50:21 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA08920; Wed, 23 Dec 1998 05:50:18 -0600 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Links from buttons Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1998 10:20:16 -0000 Message-ID: <004a01be2e6a$5bfbeb00$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 In-Reply-To: <36807A5E.A57C1FAD@pacific.net.sg> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > I'm trying to find a way to create links from buttons. The go to view > doesn't allow changing of pages from the button action. I've tried the > trial version of name-it plugin, but I'm trying to avoid > having to use > another plug-in for the reader. Named destinations are not a private addition to PDF, they are standard and are supported by both Exchange and Reader. What Exchange doesn't have is any way to CREATE named destinations, but one you have used name-it to create them, they should work in Reader. Aandi Footnote: I recently concluded that name-it MIGHT fix the "huge PDF from Frame 5.5" problem. PDFs from Frame 5.5 are often twice the size of those in earlier releases. This is because Frame 5.5. fills the file with named destinations, to support cross-document linking. I SUSPECT name-it can turn these all into regular links and throw away the hundreds of unused Named destinations. No use if you DO want cross document links of course. __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 23-Dec-1998 14:48:23-GMT,2722;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA26848 for ; Wed, 23 Dec 1998 07:48:22 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA20018; Wed, 23 Dec 1998 08:48:13 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 23 Dec 1998 08:44:39 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA19709; Wed, 23 Dec 1998 08:44:36 -0600 X-Sender: tm@193.174.4.1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.1 Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1998 15:26:44 +0100 To: pdfdev@lists.pdfzone.com From: Thomas Merz Subject: [PDFdev] Re: Link from PDF to Email? Cc: Karen.Conrey@ceridian.com, pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Message-Id: <98Dec23.154416met.140549-3@colin.muc.de> Sender: owner-pdfdev@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdfdev@lists.pdfzone.com X-Home: PDFzone.COM for 'All Things PDF' http://www.pdfzone.com/ X-Email Lists: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-List Archive: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdfdev/ X-Contact: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com X-Sponsor/Advt Opportunities: mailto:adinfo@pdfzone.com Karen, you can cook this up with pdfmarks, since PDF's Weblinks not only allow HTTP style links but also other protocols. In FrameMaker there's an easy way to achieve this: Using "Special", "Hypertext" insert a marker containing the text message URL mailto:tm@muc.de (the respective hypertext command is "Message Client") This will be translated into a mailto: link in the PDF. When clicked, your mailer is launched with the mail address given in the link. Thomas >Is there a way to make an email address in a PDF document a link so that >clicking on it will automatically bring up the user's email program? > >We're using FrameMaker 5.5 as a source document, and I don't see a way to do >it there and have it carry through to PDF, but is there a way to do it after >conversion using Exchange? _______________________________________________________________ Thomas Merz, Munich tm@muc.de http://www.ifconnection.de/~tm -- pdfmark Primer -- PDFlib -- Ghostscript manual -- jpeg2ps -- ____________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM - "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" See "PDF Showcase" @ __________________________________________________________________ 23-Dec-1998 14:55:46-GMT,2613;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA26978 for ; Wed, 23 Dec 1998 07:55:45 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA20232; Wed, 23 Dec 1998 08:50:07 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 23 Dec 1998 08:44:39 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA19693; Wed, 23 Dec 1998 08:44:36 -0600 X-Sender: tm@193.174.4.1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.1 Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1998 15:26:44 +0100 To: pdfdev@lists.pdfzone.com From: Thomas Merz Subject: [PDF] Re: Link from PDF to Email? Cc: Karen.Conrey@ceridian.com, pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Message-Id: <98Dec23.154416met.140549-3@colin.muc.de> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Karen, you can cook this up with pdfmarks, since PDF's Weblinks not only allow HTTP style links but also other protocols. In FrameMaker there's an easy way to achieve this: Using "Special", "Hypertext" insert a marker containing the text message URL mailto:tm@muc.de (the respective hypertext command is "Message Client") This will be translated into a mailto: link in the PDF. When clicked, your mailer is launched with the mail address given in the link. Thomas >Is there a way to make an email address in a PDF document a link so that >clicking on it will automatically bring up the user's email program? > >We're using FrameMaker 5.5 as a source document, and I don't see a way to do >it there and have it carry through to PDF, but is there a way to do it after >conversion using Exchange? _______________________________________________________________ Thomas Merz, Munich tm@muc.de http://www.ifconnection.de/~tm -- pdfmark Primer -- PDFlib -- Ghostscript manual -- jpeg2ps -- __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 23-Dec-1998 14:56:39-GMT,3077;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA27017 for ; Wed, 23 Dec 1998 07:56:38 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA20589; Wed, 23 Dec 1998 08:53:46 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 23 Dec 1998 08:51:20 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA20322; Wed, 23 Dec 1998 08:51:18 -0600 Message-Id: <199812231451.IAA20317@everglades.binc.net> Subject: Re: [PDF] Searching for monospace font with lines Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1998 09:51:17 -0500 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: Mark Gavin To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > [Laurie wrote on 12/22/98 6:48 PM] >I need help! I am converting thousands of WP5.1 pages with screens >generated with line characters to Word and Ventura files. These line >characters appear fine in a TrueType Courier font, but when I create PDF >files they look terrible because they aren't a Postscript font. The >Postscript Courier font yields dots instead of lines. Does anyone know >of a postscript monospace font that has line draw characters? I looked >at the Adobe website and didn't see one to purchase. >Thanks for your help, >Laurie > Laurie, While I was working for ESPS, I created a monospaced Postscript font that included the DEC Special Graphics Character Set. I believe ESPS still includes the font with their PDF Transformer. You can contact them at http://www.esps.com for more information. You could also create your own Postscript font using Fontographer. It is relatively easy to do by starting with one of the Courier fonts that have been placed in the public domain. You should expect to spend some time playing with the font hinting to get the characters to line up correctly at all zoom levels while displayed under Acrobat. In addition, when you are making changes to the font remember that a copy will be stored in the ATM font cache; so, clear the font cache before each test. Mark Gavin Vice President, Software Development Digital Applications, Inc. 215 East Providence Road Aldan, PA, USA 19018-4129 (610) 284-4006 mgavin@DigApp.com http://www.DigApp.com __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 23-Dec-1998 15:19:23-GMT,2799;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA27445 for ; Wed, 23 Dec 1998 08:19:22 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA22436; Wed, 23 Dec 1998 09:16:19 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 23 Dec 1998 09:13:34 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA22271; Wed, 23 Dec 1998 09:13:32 -0600 From: robert.richard@hrdc-drhc.gc.ca Date: Wed, 23 Dec 98 9:34:00 -0500 Message-ID: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) To: Subject: [PDF] Re-edit text contained in PDF documents. X-Incognito-SN: 1396 X-Incognito-Version: 4.11.23 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Discussion group, Another department in same building wants to modified text contained in pdf document. They have the pdf version of the document, but the word processing file is no longer available. Minor and major changes to the pdf document text is needed. What would be the option available to convert the pdf document to a Microsoft Word Document 6.0 for re-editing. Here are a few of the options that I forsee: 1) Copy and paste from the pdf document to Word 6.0. This method needs re-editing text in WRD. 2) Use SAVE AS option in Exchange to save pdf document into .doc. I have tried this method, but received error messages while trying to open .doc in Microsoft Word 6.0. These are the following error messages: "Word cannot start the converter WPFT6.CNV." and then followed by "Word cannot start the converter X:\MSAPPS\TEXT CONV\Word Star.cnv.". The text is non-readable: full of symboles. If this is the viable option, I can check with system specialist to resolve conversion problem errors. 3) Scan document in OCR. 4) Retype the 40 pages documents in Microsoft Word. Are they any other options available? Thanks in advance for reply, Robert Richard HRD-Canada Bathurst, New Brunswick Canada. __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 23-Dec-1998 15:35:43-GMT,2037;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA27795 for ; Wed, 23 Dec 1998 08:35:42 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA23507; Wed, 23 Dec 1998 09:30:37 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 23 Dec 1998 09:27:55 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA23242; Wed, 23 Dec 1998 09:27:53 -0600 From: tom.adams@glbsoft.com Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1998 10:17:31 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Color vs. B/W Screen Shots MIME-version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Mailer: TFS Gateway /221040958/221001528/221100226/300440919/ Message-Id: <98Dec23.101803est.34574@gateway.glbsoft.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id JAA23238 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > I've noticed that after converting my FrameMaker file to postscript and distilling the file, some of my screen shots are in color and some are in black and white. I'm on Win 95 and am capturing screens in PSP as TIFFs at 300 dpi. I've checked to make sure that all of my PSP settings are the same, but I can't determine the problem. Any help? Thanks! Tom __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 23-Dec-1998 16:36:51-GMT,2746;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA29344 for ; Wed, 23 Dec 1998 09:36:50 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA28657; Wed, 23 Dec 1998 10:31:30 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 23 Dec 1998 10:28:20 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA28358; Wed, 23 Dec 1998 10:28:16 -0600 Message-ID: <61EFB2F4D374D111AB160001FAD4392301A74519@atlexchange2.ces.net> From: "Conrey, Karen" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com, pdfdev@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Link Directly to Email without IE Coming Up? Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1998 11:27:36 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Thanks to Max Wyss and Thomas Merz for responding to my question (below) yesterday: Is there a way to make an email address in a PDF document a link so that clicking on it will automatically bring up the user's email program? We're using FrameMaker 5.5 as a source document, and I don't see a way to do it there and have it carry through to PDF, but is there a way to do it after conversion using Exchange? I'm used their suggestion to insert a marker in Frame (Special menu --> Hypertext option, Message client command, with the following text message URL mailto:user@organization.domain but am now running into a different problem. Clicking on the link in the PDF file lauches Internet Explorer first, then brings up the email tool. Am I doing something wrong, or do I have something configured wrong? I would like the email tool to come up directly, without IE being launched first. I'm using Frame 5.5.3 (haven't upgraded to 5.5.6 yet)--does the new version of Frame handle this differently? Thanks very much for any help you can give me. Karen Conrey Ceridian Employer Services Karen.Conrey@ceridian.com (678) 443-8846 __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 23-Dec-1998 16:44:25-GMT,5797;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA29545 for ; Wed, 23 Dec 1998 09:44:24 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA29400; Wed, 23 Dec 1998 10:41:28 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 23 Dec 1998 10:38:53 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA29206; Wed, 23 Dec 1998 10:38:51 -0600 From: "Michel Laurin" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Combining PDF Files Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1998 11:41:44 -0500 Message-ID: <000001be2e93$20233100$770271d8@poste-3.videotron.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2120.0 In-Reply-To: <000e01be2e25$818690e0$208799d1@oemcomputer> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Could somebody be more specific about this procedure; 1- Is this conducted on Mac or Win? 2- Is this performed in Explorer or on the desktop? 3- Does the "first" page of the doc has to be open in Exchange in roder for the procedure to succeed? I would appreciatew very addionnal info on this procedure... regards from Montreal mlaurin@a2i.ca > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com [mailto:owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com]On > Behalf Of Jim Cullen > Sent: 22 décembre, 1998 22:37 > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: RE: [PDF] Combining PDF Files > > > > < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > > I wanted to point out an inconsistency I've had with this > technique. I'm not > sure if this is still a problem or not but I thought I should mention it. > > If you select a group of pages (say in numeric order) and click > on the last > item to drag the document to Acrobat, that page is thrown out of > sequence. I > combined 4000 thousand of pages in 100 page groups then had to sort ever > 100th page. > > To get around this, highlight the files then click and drag on > the first one > (The selected page has a border around it.) > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com [mailto:owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com] On > Behalf Of Dae-Hee Lee > Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 1998 10:16 AM > To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' > Subject: [PDF] Combining PDF Files > > > < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > > PDFers, > > You don't need any of the special tools, utilities, etc. to > combine multiple > PDF files into a single PDF. I found the following information from Adobe > re: combining two or more PDF files into a single document in Windows. > > Before using drag-and-drop to insert PDF documents from File > Manager, set up > your Windows environment so that Acrobat Exchange and File Manager are the > only two open applications. These applications should not take up the > entire desktop and should not be either maximized or minimized. > > Drag the files from the File Manager to the document area of the open PDF > file, and click OK. The insert dialog box appears. If you drag > the file to > the overview area below the thumbnail for a page, a dialog box appears > asking you to confirm the insertion of the files after that page. > > Click Before to insert the document before the specified page. > Click After > to insert the page after the specified page. > > In the Page Box, specify the page before or after which the document is to > be inserted, you have the option of clicking First or Last. By > default, the > file is inserted immediately after the current page. > > If more than one document (file) is inserted, the first document > is inserted > in the position indicated by the insert dialog box, and all other > documents > are inserted in the order that they appear in the File Manager, > according to > how they are sorted (date, size, name, so forth). > > * I've been seeing messages on the list re: combining PDF files, and the > above procedure has helped me immensely. Hope this "tip" from Adobe helps > someone else. Happy Holidays. > > Dae-Hee Lee > Director of Electronic Publishing > Maryland Composition Co., Inc. > 6711 Dover Road > Glen Burnie, MD 21060 > (410) 760-7900 x3020 [voice] > (410) 760-5295 [fax] > > > __________________________________________________________________ > > PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" > > send for more info: > __________________________________________________________________ > > > > __________________________________________________________________ > > PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" > > send for more info: > __________________________________________________________________ > > __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 23-Dec-1998 16:48:14-GMT,2165;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA29626 for ; Wed, 23 Dec 1998 09:48:13 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA29717; Wed, 23 Dec 1998 10:44:43 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 23 Dec 1998 10:42:12 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA29491; Wed, 23 Dec 1998 10:42:11 -0600 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Link Directly to Email without IE Coming Up? Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1998 16:40:56 -0000 Message-ID: <004c01be2e93$211a6240$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 In-Reply-To: <61EFB2F4D374D111AB160001FAD4392301A74519@atlexchange2.ces.net> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > > but am now running into a different problem. Clicking on the > link in the > PDF file lauches Internet Explorer first, then brings up the > email tool. This is inevitable. There is no direct e-mail support in Acrobat, but it can run URLs (http:... mailto:... and others). It does that in all cases by passing a request to the default browser. Aandi __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 23-Dec-1998 20:14:16-GMT,4307;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA04165 for ; Wed, 23 Dec 1998 13:14:15 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA13942; Wed, 23 Dec 1998 14:08:25 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 23 Dec 1998 14:04:36 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA13301; Wed, 23 Dec 1998 14:04:31 -0600 From: "Jim Cullen" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Re-edit text contained in PDF documents. Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1998 15:08:34 -0500 Message-ID: <000101be2eb0$05423760$208799d1@oemcomputer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Here is a testimonial for you. About a year ago my office bought a copy of ForTE (www.bcl-computers.com). It worked great for Word documents. The Word page retained all the formatting and was identical to the pdf page. It's as simple as drawing a square around the text then dragging it into MS Word. If you have any expectation of doing this more then once, It's worth the investment. Another possibility is to open each page in Illustrator and reformat it from there (I've also heard Freehand will do this, but the trial version locked up when I tried.) But this is still a lot of work. You need to recombine the lines to get a paragraph. Good Luck. -----Original Message----- From: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com [mailto:owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com] On Behalf Of robert.richard@hrdc-drhc.gc.ca Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 1998 9:34 AM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Re-edit text contained in PDF documents. < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Discussion group, Another department in same building wants to modified text contained in pdf document. They have the pdf version of the document, but the word processing file is no longer available. Minor and major changes to the pdf document text is needed. What would be the option available to convert the pdf document to a Microsoft Word Document 6.0 for re-editing. Here are a few of the options that I forsee: 1) Copy and paste from the pdf document to Word 6.0. This method needs re-editing text in WRD. 2) Use SAVE AS option in Exchange to save pdf document into .doc. I have tried this method, but received error messages while trying to open .doc in Microsoft Word 6.0. These are the following error messages: "Word cannot start the converter WPFT6.CNV." and then followed by "Word cannot start the converter X:\MSAPPS\TEXT CONV\Word Star.cnv.". The text is non-readable: full of symboles. If this is the viable option, I can check with system specialist to resolve conversion problem errors. 3) Scan document in OCR. 4) Retype the 40 pages documents in Microsoft Word. Are they any other options available? Thanks in advance for reply, Robert Richard HRD-Canada Bathurst, New Brunswick Canada. __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 23-Dec-1998 20:30:44-GMT,2058;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA04510 for ; Wed, 23 Dec 1998 13:30:43 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA16457; Wed, 23 Dec 1998 14:27:15 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 23 Dec 1998 14:24:33 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA16171; Wed, 23 Dec 1998 14:24:30 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.32.19981223152447.00944100@ingress.com> X-Sender: janice@ingress.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1998 15:24:50 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Janice Prescott Subject: [PDF] StandalonePDFWriter? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Does anybody know if it is possible to get a standalone version of PDFWriter anymore? And the price? The volunteer project I am working on requires that fairly low-quality pdf files be made by a range of people with a range of equipment, money, and skills. So the full version of Acrobat is out. I think PDFWriter used to be sold separately, maybe in versions 1.0 or 2.1. Now all I can find on the Web site is a beta version for Win NT. Can anybody help? Thanks in advance, Janice Prescott __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 23-Dec-1998 20:44:50-GMT,2493;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA04895 for ; Wed, 23 Dec 1998 13:44:49 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA17737; Wed, 23 Dec 1998 14:39:38 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 23 Dec 1998 14:37:01 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA17423; Wed, 23 Dec 1998 14:36:59 -0600 From: Karen_L_Mibus@keybank.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: KEYCORP To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <852566E3.00711C29.00@keybank.com> Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1998 15:36:26 -0500 Subject: Re: [PDF] Research on Emotional Transition from Hard Copy to PDF " On Screen " Approvals Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Bill Powell wrote: I would like to learn about any research that may exist in this area and where to look for it. I want to overcome the emotional barriers that exist with people in my organization when asked to move from a hard copy approval system to a pdf one. There is always a lot of push back to return to the " old hard copy way" vs on screen approvals. I would appreciate any help in this area. Thank You Bill Powell Take a look at GVU's WWW Surveys: http://www.gvu.gatech.edu/user_surveys/survey-1998-04/reports/1998-04-Use.h tml This survey specifically concerns Web and Internet use, but it also includes questions about using online information in general. Also, I highly recommend William Horton's book, Designing and Writing Online Documentation : Hypermedia for Self-Supporting Products (Wiley Technical Communication Library). --Karen __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 23-Dec-1998 22:00:21-GMT,1987;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA06562 for ; Wed, 23 Dec 1998 15:00:20 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA22941; Wed, 23 Dec 1998 15:55:00 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 23 Dec 1998 15:51:56 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA22674; Wed, 23 Dec 1998 15:51:55 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19981223164946.008562a0@208.215.74.4> X-Sender: m2456601@208.215.74.4 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1998 16:49:46 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Daniel-Ari Feinberg Subject: [PDF] Enlarge page In-Reply-To: <199812232004.OAA13338@everglades.binc.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > >Does anybody know about a way to enlarge PDF-Files? In addition to cropping functions, Ari's Crop Helper from Dionis will easily enlarge or shrink singe pages/whole files/batches of files. Space is added to or subtracted from the edges of pages - they are not scaled. http://www.dionis.com/tb/pdfl.html Best Regards, Daniel-Ari Feinberg Dionis __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 24-Dec-1998 1:34:39-GMT,1903;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA10892 for ; Wed, 23 Dec 1998 18:34:37 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA02261; Wed, 23 Dec 1998 19:28:02 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 23 Dec 1998 19:24:29 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA02083; Wed, 23 Dec 1998 19:24:27 -0600 From: AEIgraphic@aol.com Message-ID: <707b1bc0.3681979a@aol.com> Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1998 20:23:38 EST To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: [PDF] Links from Buttons Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Mac sub 84 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > jo leong wrote: < send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 24-Dec-1998 2:35:19-GMT,2778;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA12041 for ; Wed, 23 Dec 1998 19:35:18 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA05659; Wed, 23 Dec 1998 20:30:22 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 23 Dec 1998 20:27:24 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA05474; Wed, 23 Dec 1998 20:27:23 -0600 Message-ID: <3681C1DA.809460E4@earthlink.net> Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1998 20:23:54 -0800 From: Scottie X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en]C-DIAL (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] StandalonePDFWriter? References: <3.0.32.19981223152447.00944100@ingress.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Hello Janice, I think the PDF Writer is included on the Adobe Acrobat Exchange CD. It automatically installs. I just loaded Exchange on my new PC and it is there under printers. Check it out. Scottie Janice Prescott wrote: > > < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > > Does anybody know if it is possible to get a standalone version of > PDFWriter anymore? And the price? The volunteer project I am working on > requires that fairly low-quality pdf files be made by a range of people > with a range of equipment, money, and skills. So the full version of > Acrobat is out. I think PDFWriter used to be sold separately, maybe in > versions 1.0 or 2.1. Now all I can find on the Web site is a beta version > for Win NT. Can anybody help? > > Thanks in advance, Janice Prescott > > __________________________________________________________________ > > PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" > > send for more info: > __________________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 24-Dec-1998 2:42:16-GMT,2520;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA12138 for ; Wed, 23 Dec 1998 19:42:15 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA06199; Wed, 23 Dec 1998 20:39:34 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 23 Dec 1998 20:37:07 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA06004; Wed, 23 Dec 1998 20:37:03 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19981223212929.007b9e90@up.bresnan.net> X-Sender: fosmire@up.bresnan.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1998 21:29:29 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: "M. Sean Fosmire" Subject: [PDF] RE: Re-edit text contained in PDF documents Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > BCL no longer sells Forte. They have a new product called Jade, which appears to be an excellent PDF-to-RTF converter, but it is horribly overpriced at $1,500. They do have a 30-day demo available at their web site. >Here is a testimonial for you. About a year ago my office bought a copy of >ForTE (www.bcl-computers.com). It worked great for Word documents. The Word >page retained all the formatting and was identical to the pdf page. It's as >simple as drawing a square around the text then dragging it into MS Word. If >you have any expectation of doing this more then once, It's worth the >investment. ====================================================== M. Sean Fosmire fosmire@up.bresnan.net Fosmire Solka & Stenton, P.C. http://www.uplaw.net Superior Information Services, Inc. http://www.sismich.com/home.htm ====================================================== __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 24-Dec-1998 13:41:27-GMT,2182;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA23672 for ; Thu, 24 Dec 1998 06:41:26 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA28294; Thu, 24 Dec 1998 07:36:00 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 24 Dec 1998 07:30:36 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA27975; Thu, 24 Dec 1998 07:30:34 -0600 Message-ID: <01BE2F17.EDAACE60.mastephenson@syrres.com> From: mastephenson@syrres.com (mark stephenson) To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Combining PDF Files Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1998 08:32:21 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Hi - 1 - it certainly works on the PC - don't know about Mac 2 - INTO Exchange, but using Explorer to drag the files FROM 3 - yes - first page must be opened in Exchange Good Luck, Mark ----------------------- Could somebody be more specific about this procedure; 1- Is this conducted on Mac or Win? 2- Is this performed in Explorer or on the desktop? 3- Does the "first" page of the doc has to be open in Exchange in roder for the procedure to succeed? Mark Stephenson Software Engineer Syracuse Research Corporation (315) 452-8305 mastephenson@syrres.com __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 24-Dec-1998 20:55:14-GMT,2943;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA02132 for ; Thu, 24 Dec 1998 13:55:13 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA20615; Thu, 24 Dec 1998 14:49:55 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 24 Dec 1998 14:42:40 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA20074; Thu, 24 Dec 1998 14:42:38 -0600 Message-Id: From: "Callaway, Rebecca" To: "'Post to PDF listserve'" Subject: [PDF] Response to Derek - Automated PDF rendering & EDMS check-in Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1998 13:41:00 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.996.62 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > "Keith, Derek (IMB_Technology)" wrote on 12/17/98 09:21:54 > AM: > > I am working on a proposal at my company to develop a system that can take a PS printstream from various applications, render it into a PDF, parse the PDF for certain metadata items, and use the metadata to automatically check the document into our Filenet document management system. > > An example is an invoice. Once the invoice is distilled, it would be parsed (scanned) to extract the client name, invoice date, invoice number, and client ID. These data items are then used during the document management check-in process. The metadata will appear in the same part of the document each time. > > I was wondering if anyone is aware of some commercially available products that can scan the PDFs for certain metadata. > > Thanks, > Derek > We have purchased a product that has this add-on capability. The product (a web-enabled EDM) us called IntraDoc. There is an add-on scanning piece called KOFAX that does exactly this with invoices and other types of doduments from which reliable metadata can be gleaned. If you like, you can contact Char Garon (West Coast Rep) for IntraNet Solutions (OEM) at 949/548-8073 (Costa Mesa) (char.garon@intranetsol.com). The web site for the product is www.intranetsol.com rebecca __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 25-Dec-1998 6:40:01-GMT,3257;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA12001 for ; Thu, 24 Dec 1998 23:39:59 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA15824; Fri, 25 Dec 1998 00:34:59 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 25 Dec 1998 00:30:57 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA15603; Fri, 25 Dec 1998 00:30:55 -0600 Message-ID: <00c101bcf7da$6bb53460$4fd20018@cx648066-a.msnv1.occa.home.com> From: "Steve Aylor" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] Combining PDF Files Date: Sat, 22 Nov 1997 22:38:33 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Not being a programmer, but a devoted user of Adobe pdf, I cannot for the life of me figure out why Adobe has not added the functionality into Exchange 2 and up to be able to add multiple pdf files into an existing pdf. Seems a rather trivial task in amending the dialogue box to allow multiple files to be appended? Steve Aylor Aylor Insurance Agency -----Original Message----- From: mark stephenson To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' Date: Thursday, December 24, 1998 5:37 AM Subject: [PDF] Combining PDF Files > >< ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > >Hi - > >1 - it certainly works on the PC - don't know about Mac >2 - INTO Exchange, but using Explorer to drag the files FROM >3 - yes - first page must be opened in Exchange > >Good Luck, > >Mark > > > > > >----------------------- > > >Could somebody be more specific about this procedure; >1- Is this conducted on Mac or Win? >2- Is this performed in Explorer or on the desktop? >3- Does the "first" page of the doc has to be open in Exchange in roder for >the procedure to succeed? > > > >Mark Stephenson >Software Engineer >Syracuse Research Corporation >(315) 452-8305 >mastephenson@syrres.com > > > >__________________________________________________________________ > >PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" > >send for more info: >__________________________________________________________________ > __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 27-Dec-1998 15:22:18-GMT,3209;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA05040 for ; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 08:22:17 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA30526; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 09:16:11 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 27 Dec 1998 09:08:15 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA29915; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 09:08:11 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-Sender: jhbauer@pop3.akula.com (Unverified) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <004c01be2e93$211a6240$0101c6c0@gateway> References: <61EFB2F4D374D111AB160001FAD4392301A74519@atlexchange2.ces.net> Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 10:06:43 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Jonathan Bauer Subject: [PDF] Video clips in PDF Q & Mac to Windows Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Good morning: I have to do a project which must be illustrated by video clips. I plan to distribute this via CD-ROM to three colleagues who use windows 95 &/or 98. My platform is Mac (a 9600 upgraded to G3/300). I have a consumer ATI Xclaim VR which will do the video capture acceptably, though not the audio. There will be about 50 video clips ranging from 8 seconds to 25 seconds, all with audio (low fidelity is OK in this context). My two questions: 1. About audio/video capture I intended to use the ATI card to capture the video and the audio input on my mac for the audio. Do I need to install a card in my Mac to get satisfactory results (that is, synchronized audio and video)? (I prefer not spend extra if possible, but I will if necessary). Any comments/thoughts appreciated. 2. Distributing to windows users On the mac, I would just save the video as quicktime (using cinepack compression provided by the ATI card), do any editing in Premiere (I have 4.21, should I be upgraded?) and then use the movie tool in acrobat to place the video. Aside from following any required naming conventions for the files, will this work for a windows user? The acrobat on line guide states that there are two kinds of video available for windows users, quicktime (after "flattening") and windows AVI (about which I know nothing). Any opinions? Do I need to learn about "AVI" and create files in that format? Thank you all in advance for your thoughts. Jonathan. mailto:jhbauer@akula.com __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 27-Dec-1998 20:41:55-GMT,3758;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA10035 for ; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 13:41:54 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA16565; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 14:37:37 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 27 Dec 1998 14:34:00 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA16293; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 14:33:59 -0600 From: "Michel Laurin" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] StandalonePDFWriter? Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 15:36:56 -0500 Message-ID: <000001be31d8$a4e94300$f6d0fdcf@poste-3.videotron.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <3681C1DA.809460E4@earthlink.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2120.0 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Wasn't there at a certain point in time a special product from Adobe that was retailed around 29.95$ USD which was a Reader and a PDF Writer? mlaurin@a2i.ca > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com [mailto:owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com]On > Behalf Of Scottie > Sent: 23 décembre, 1998 23:24 > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: Re: [PDF] StandalonePDFWriter? > > > > < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > > Hello Janice, > > I think the PDF Writer is included on the Adobe Acrobat Exchange CD. It > automatically installs. I just loaded Exchange on my new PC and it is > there under printers. > > Check it out. > > Scottie > > Janice Prescott wrote: > > > > < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM > since 1995 -- > > > > > Does anybody know if it is possible to get a standalone version of > > PDFWriter anymore? And the price? The volunteer project I am working on > > requires that fairly low-quality pdf files be made by a range of people > > with a range of equipment, money, and skills. So the full version of > > Acrobat is out. I think PDFWriter used to be sold separately, maybe in > > versions 1.0 or 2.1. Now all I can find on the Web site is a > beta version > > for Win NT. Can anybody help? > > > > Thanks in advance, Janice Prescott > > > > __________________________________________________________________ > > > > PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" > > > > send for more info: > > __________________________________________________________________ > > __________________________________________________________________ > > PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" > > send for more info: > __________________________________________________________________ > > __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 28-Dec-1998 3:24:28-GMT,4097;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA16418 for ; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 20:24:27 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA07074; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 21:21:14 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 27 Dec 1998 21:16:11 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA06772; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 21:16:09 -0600 Message-ID: <368792F3.9D378E03@realworld.com.au> Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 14:17:25 +0000 From: Dean Laffan X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Video clips in PDF Q & Mac to Windows References: <61EFB2F4D374D111AB160001FAD4392301A74519@atlexchange2.ces.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Jonathan Bauer wrote: > 2. Distributing to windows users > > On the mac, I would just save the video as quicktime (using cinepack > compression provided by the ATI card), do any editing in Premiere (I have > 4.21, should I be upgraded?) and then use the movie tool in acrobat to > place the video. Aside from following any required naming conventions for > the files, will this work for a windows user? Yes > > > The acrobat on line guide states that there are two kinds of video > available for windows users, quicktime (after "flattening") and windows AVI > (about which I know nothing). > > Any opinions? Do I need to learn about "AVI" and create files in that format? Acrobat will cope fine with either format. If you use Quicktime, you will obviously need to distribute the installer to ensure your target Windoze machines can playback. If you convert to .avi they can playback through ActiveMovie without extra installers. The playback quality would be about the same. This means a hybrid disc. In QT you would get all the cool features of V3 but if you're not using them, no big loss. You can get free QT to .avi converters off the web. Look for Microsoft's VFW (Video For Windows) This is a MAc based app which hasn't been upgraded since about '92 but works fine. Or a PC based app called TRMoov. All you do is produce your QT as usual and then convert when ready. Be aware that the key with digital movies is: Garbage in Garbage Out. The end quality of your movie will be greatly dependent on your source material and the rate at which you capture. There is no substitute to capture off SP at 300K/sec and compress that quality. If you are capturing from VHS or handicam and at lesser data rate, as you would expect the codec has less bits to play with so expect more pixelating and overall lesser quality. If the footage is talking heads with little action this is better than sports type footage withh lots of pans and zooms, which the capture card and the codec will struggle with. Especially if you go .avi and can't use good low data rate codecs like Sorenson. If quality is REAL important see if you can find a friendly with a Media 100 or Avid or Radius and sub it out. The difference could be considerable depending on the source material and the footage As always..... test test test. Good Luck ;-0 Dean Real World __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 28-Dec-1998 5:58:34-GMT,2227;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA18847 for ; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 22:58:33 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA15090; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 23:54:34 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 27 Dec 1998 23:50:19 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA14817; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 23:50:17 -0600 Message-ID: <36871A75.D915CCA3@greenhills.net> Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 23:43:18 -0600 From: mdryden@greenhills.net (marie dryden) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] PDF Files References: <00c101bcf7da$6bb53460$4fd20018@cx648066-a.msnv1.occa.home.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > I have prepared a book of about 1600 pages which I have separated into separate documents for each chapter. I created the documents in WordPerfect 8 which has index codes and cross-reference links. I have printed these files to postscript files and then used Distiller to make the PDF documents. The hypertext links do not carry though to the PDF document. What do I need to do this? This is my first attempt to make PDF files. The WordPerfect documents have the links underlined and in color showing them in the document and when clicked go to the designated place. Thanks Marie Dryden __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 28-Dec-1998 6:46:13-GMT,4292;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA19747 for ; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 23:46:12 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA17481; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 00:43:07 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 28 Dec 1998 00:39:13 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA17253; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 00:39:09 -0600 Message-ID: <368742D6.352C7FBD@earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 00:35:34 -0800 From: Scottie X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en]C-DIAL (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Video clips in PDF Q & Mac to Windows References: <61EFB2F4D374D111AB160001FAD4392301A74519@atlexchange2.ces.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Jonathan, I've done some videos on CD Rom in Acrobat on a Mac for distribution on a Windows PC. As long as the client have Quicktime for Windows install you should have no problems. I copied the Reader with Quicktime for Windows on my CD for distribution. If the client didn't have Quicktime already installed, I provided specific instructions (simple) on how to install. There are a lot of tricks you could use to reduce the size of the movies. Visit the Quicktime Web site for more. I believe with Quicktime Pro, you will be able to overlay sound to your movies. Scottie Jonathan Bauer wrote: > > < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > > Good morning: > > I have to do a project which must be illustrated by video clips. I plan to > distribute this via CD-ROM to three colleagues who use windows 95 &/or 98. > My platform is Mac (a 9600 upgraded to G3/300). I have a consumer ATI > Xclaim VR which will do the video capture acceptably, though not the audio. > There will be about 50 video clips ranging from 8 seconds to 25 seconds, > all with audio (low fidelity is OK in this context). > > My two questions: > > 1. About audio/video capture > > I intended to use the ATI card to capture the video and the audio input on > my mac for the audio. Do I need to install a card in my Mac to get > satisfactory results (that is, synchronized audio and video)? (I prefer not > spend extra if possible, but I will if necessary). Any comments/thoughts > appreciated. > > 2. Distributing to windows users > > On the mac, I would just save the video as quicktime (using cinepack > compression provided by the ATI card), do any editing in Premiere (I have > 4.21, should I be upgraded?) and then use the movie tool in acrobat to > place the video. Aside from following any required naming conventions for > the files, will this work for a windows user? > > The acrobat on line guide states that there are two kinds of video > available for windows users, quicktime (after "flattening") and windows AVI > (about which I know nothing). > > Any opinions? Do I need to learn about "AVI" and create files in that format? > > Thank you all in advance for your thoughts. > > Jonathan. > mailto:jhbauer@akula.com > > __________________________________________________________________ > > PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" > > send for more info: > __________________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 28-Dec-1998 6:46:50-GMT,4304;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA19764 for ; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 23:46:48 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA17627; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 00:45:13 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 28 Dec 1998 00:41:26 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA17354; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 00:41:25 -0600 Message-ID: <36874364.67A78146@earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 00:37:56 -0800 From: Scottie X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en]C-DIAL (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] StandalonePDFWriter? References: <000001be31d8$a4e94300$f6d0fdcf@poste-3.videotron.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Not that I know of. There was some mentioning of Acrobat Lite for around $50.00. I don't know what ever happen to it. Michel Laurin wrote: > > < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > > Wasn't there at a certain point in time a special product from Adobe that > was retailed around 29.95$ USD which was a Reader and a PDF Writer? > mlaurin@a2i.ca > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com [mailto:owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com]On > > Behalf Of Scottie > > Sent: 23 décembre, 1998 23:24 > > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > > Subject: Re: [PDF] StandalonePDFWriter? > > > > > > > > < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > > > > Hello Janice, > > > > I think the PDF Writer is included on the Adobe Acrobat Exchange CD. It > > automatically installs. I just loaded Exchange on my new PC and it is > > there under printers. > > > > Check it out. > > > > Scottie > > > > Janice Prescott wrote: > > > > > > < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM > > since 1995 -- > > > > > > > Does anybody know if it is possible to get a standalone version of > > > PDFWriter anymore? And the price? The volunteer project I am working on > > > requires that fairly low-quality pdf files be made by a range of people > > > with a range of equipment, money, and skills. So the full version of > > > Acrobat is out. I think PDFWriter used to be sold separately, maybe in > > > versions 1.0 or 2.1. Now all I can find on the Web site is a > > beta version > > > for Win NT. Can anybody help? > > > > > > Thanks in advance, Janice Prescott > > > > > > __________________________________________________________________ > > > > > > PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" > > > > > > send for more info: > > > __________________________________________________________________ > > > > __________________________________________________________________ > > > > PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" > > > > send for more info: > > __________________________________________________________________ > > > > > > __________________________________________________________________ > > PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" > > send for more info: > __________________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 28-Dec-1998 14:10:07-GMT,2855;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA27196 for ; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 07:10:06 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA05714; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 08:07:27 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 28 Dec 1998 08:03:31 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA05434; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 08:03:29 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <36874364.67A78146@earthlink.net> References: <000001be31d8$a4e94300$f6d0fdcf@poste-3.videotron.ca> Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 08:07:03 -0600 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Kurt Foss Subject: Re: [PDF] StandalonePDFWriter? Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Yes, six months or so ago there *was* a limited-time opportunity to purchase PDFWriter from Adobe, as was reported in our PDFzone EXTRA ezine: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/extra/extra52998.html#Updates However, the offer has expired, and the special link to Adobe that was then active is now stale. rgds ~ Kurt === At 2:37 AM -0600 12/28/98, Scottie wrote: < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Not that I know of. There was some mentioning of Acrobat Lite for around $50.00. I don't know what ever happen to it. Michel Laurin wrote: > > < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > > Wasn't there at a certain point in time a special product from Adobe that > was retailed around 29.95$ USD which was a Reader and a PDF Writer? > mlaurin@a2i.ca __________________________________________________ * P D F z o n e . C O M * __________________________________________________ 579 D'Onofrio Dr. (608)829-0183 Suite 104 EMAIL: mailto:info@pdfzone.com Madison, WI 53719 WWW: http://www.pdfzone.com/ ------------------------------------------------------------- Lists info: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 28-Dec-1998 16:46:53-GMT,3210;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA00028 for ; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 09:46:51 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA17140; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 10:43:17 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 28 Dec 1998 10:33:08 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA16282; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 10:33:00 -0600 From: hdediu@bcl-computers.com To: Cc: "Hassan Alam" Subject: [PDF] RE: Re-edit text contained in PDF documents Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 11:34:09 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > As this is not a commercial forum, I will refrain from commenting, but I must correct the assertion about Jade pricing. Jade is not currently priced as it is in Beta testing. The Beta version is free. For more information, please visit our web site www.bcl-computers.com. Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1998 21:29:29 -0500 From: "M. Sean Fosmire" Subject: [PDF] RE: Re-edit text contained in PDF documents < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > BCL no longer sells Forte. They have a new product called Jade, which appears to be an excellent PDF-to-RTF converter, but it is horribly overpriced at $1,500. They do have a 30-day demo available at their web site. >Here is a testimonial for you. About a year ago my office bought a copy of >ForTE (www.bcl-computers.com). It worked great for Word documents. The Word >page retained all the formatting and was identical to the pdf page. It's as >simple as drawing a square around the text then dragging it into MS Word. If >you have any expectation of doing this more then once, It's worth the >investment. ====================================================== M. Sean Fosmire fosmire@up.bresnan.net Fosmire Solka & Stenton, P.C. http://www.uplaw.net Superior Information Services, Inc. http://www.sismich.com/home.htm __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 28-Dec-1998 17:07:05-GMT,1806;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA00508 for ; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 10:07:04 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA18881; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 11:06:22 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 28 Dec 1998 10:59:46 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA18386; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 10:59:45 -0600 Message-ID: <009701be3283$26d54c10$d78e7018@cr281553-a.lndn1.on.wave.home.com> From: "Eddie Brown" To: Subject: [PDF] bcl-computers Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 11:57:27 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Has anyone bought software from bcl-computers. Are they a good company? Is their software reliable? Thanks, Eddie __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 28-Dec-1998 13:30:49-GMT,2757;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA26587 for ; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 06:30:48 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA03188; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 07:27:00 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 28 Dec 1998 07:21:46 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA02905; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 07:21:44 -0600 From: rick.sapir@glbsoft.com Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 08:24:25 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Catalog error Receipt-Requested-To: rick.sapir@gsntone.glbsoft.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Mailer: TFS Gateway /221040958/221001528/221100226/300440919/ Message-Id: <98Dec28.082505est.34561@gateway.glbsoft.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id HAA02901 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > I'm trying to create an Acrobat catalog, but have trouble generating a catalog index for a group of files on an NT network. I get the following error when create a new catalog index and try to build it: Starting build. Connecting to index. Search Engine Message: (0) Error E0-0416 (Vct): UIO open error 13 (Permission denied) file = K:\GLOBAL\CATALOGS\AS4AP\assists\00000000.abt, mode = C Search Engine Message: (0) Error E0-0702 (Dstream): Error writing to K:\GLOBAL\CATALOGS\AS4AP\assists\00000000.abt Index Build Failed. K:\GLOBAL\RICK\TOM\DEMO3\CATALOGS\AS4AP.PDX - Index Build Failed. I've copied all the files to my local PC and built the catalog from there and things are fine. I've then re-copied the PDX file and (all the associated folders) back to the network. I was able to schedule and rebuild the index without a problem (so I know there is no problem with read/write authorities on the network). The error only occurs when creating an initial index. Any ideas? Rick Sapir rick.sapir@glbsoft.com __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 28-Dec-1998 17:30:51-GMT,2745;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA00963 for ; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 10:30:50 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA20436; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 11:28:00 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 28 Dec 1998 11:21:21 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA19947; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 11:21:19 -0600 From: listowner@pdfzone.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: listowner@mailbag.com (Unverified) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <009701be3283$26d54c10$d78e7018@cr281553-a.lndn1.on.wave.home.com> Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 11:24:54 -0600 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] bcl-computers - Policy Reminder Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Please note that *brief* product-related replies in *direct* response to a posted query are _generally_ acceptable for the PDF list. However, they should NOT include pricing details, 'special offers' and the like that are of a purely commercial nature. If anyone can offer the original poster here a more detailed reply concerning this -- or any other -- company and its products or services, please send the replies *directly* to the original individual, NOT to the entire list. Subscribers to the PDF list have with very few exceptions willingly abided by this policy, for the good of the list and all subscribers, we believe. As from the beginning, the list's mission is to serve as an informational resource, not as a billboard for companies to blatantly promote products or services. Thanks to everyone for another year of cooperation with the list guidelines on this matter. Tks - PDFzone.COM === At 10:57 AM -0600 12/28/98, Eddie Brown wrote: < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Has anyone bought software from bcl-computers. Are they a good company? Is their software reliable? __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 28-Dec-1998 17:49:28-GMT,1830;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA01327 for ; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 10:49:27 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA21834; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 11:48:42 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 28 Dec 1998 11:41:44 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA21321; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 11:41:42 -0600 Message-ID: <00b501be3289$0393d180$d78e7018@cr281553-a.lndn1.on.wave.home.com> From: "Eddie Brown" To: Subject: [PDF] bcl-computers Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 12:39:25 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > I am sorry if I violated policy. Did I violate policy by my questions? ( I was just asking peoples opinions of the company) Thanks, Eddie __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 28-Dec-1998 18:29:46-GMT,4327;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA02237 for ; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 11:29:45 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA24004; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 12:19:48 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 28 Dec 1998 12:14:29 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA23576; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 12:14:27 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <00b501be3289$0393d180$d78e7018@cr281553-a.lndn1.on.wave.home.com> Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 12:18:00 -0600 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Kurt Foss Subject: Re: [PDF] bcl-computers Cc: "Eddie Brown" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Eddie et al, This is my last comment on this particular thread -- pls follow suit *unless* future postings are bona fide replies to the original question (and send them privately if you're stating a detailed opinion about this OR ANY OTHER company's product/service pricing structure). Informational discussions about a product's features and capabilities are highly relevant to the list. Where we have tried to draw a line is when the discussions concern pricing details, whether meant as favorable or as criticism. The PDF list policy has from the beginning has made clear that such messages should *only* be sent privately, NOT posted to the whole list of more than 2,000 subscribed addresses (some being corporate-wide accounts). In short, the question you posted is/was OK in and of itself -- but was worded in a way that was much too open-ended, inviting very general opinions. If you have a *specific* question or concern about a *specific* product, that's a much better way to increase the chances of getting useful -- and on-target -- replies. In any case, requesting direct replies on a question relating to ANY company's goods and services should always be considered. It's much too easy on the Net to slam a company or product, and potentially to do harm to its business as the message is spread quickly across the world -- and often seen out of context. In general, we aim to keep potentially damaging personal opinions stated as fact off the various lists we host. Part of that requires monitoring discussion threads to try to head off certain ones that seem most likely to invite replies in violation of list policies. Its not an exact science by any means, but we belive it's the fairest way to operate for the greater good. If you'd like to express further opinion on this or any other list policies, please feel free to send them directly to: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com rgds ~ Kurt === At 11:39 AM -0600 12/28/98, Eddie Brown wrote: < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > I am sorry if I violated policy. Did I violate policy by my questions? ( I was just asking peoples opinions of the company) ---> P D F z o n e . C O M <--- "Online Hub to the Acrobat & pdf universe" Kurt Foss Internet Communications Mgr 579 D'Onofrio Dr. (608)829-0183 Suite 104 EMAIL: mailto:kfoss@pdfzone.com Madison, WI 53719 WWW: http://www.pdfzone.com/ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - "Make haste slowly." - CAESAR AUGUSTUS, quoted by Suetonius in Lives of the Caesars - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 28-Dec-1998 18:33:22-GMT,1695;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA02362 for ; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 11:33:19 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA25239; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 12:32:32 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 28 Dec 1998 12:27:16 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA24653; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 12:27:14 -0600 From: BADzign@aol.com Message-ID: <3728f82e.3687cd70@aol.com> Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 13:26:56 EST To: PDF@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: [PDF] DARK IMAGES ON PC'S Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0.1 for Mac sub 82 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > I have created a pdf catalogue in Pagemaker on a Macintosh. When it is opened on a PC, the photos are darker. Is this inherent or should the photos be a certain format. Thank You __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 28-Dec-1998 18:46:28-GMT,2801;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA02733 for ; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 11:46:27 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA26255; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 12:45:48 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 28 Dec 1998 12:40:35 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA25877; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 12:40:34 -0600 Message-ID: <002e01be3291$8e55ffc0$c88a14d1@prometheus.main> From: "Ian Lurie" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] DARK IMAGES ON PC'S Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 10:40:33 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > I believe you're dealing with monitor gamma issues - PC's often show graphics darker than Macs. It's a bugaboo we deal with on the web all of the time... I don't know any great fix - if you find one, let me know... Ian The Written Word, Inc. Information Design Online, On Paper, and On the Web http://www.writtenword.com ian@writtenword.com -----Original Message----- From: BADzign@aol.com To: PDF@lists.pdfzone.com Date: Monday, December 28, 1998 10:37 AM Subject: [PDF] DARK IMAGES ON PC'S > >< ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > >I have created a pdf catalogue in Pagemaker on a Macintosh. When it is opened >on a PC, the photos are darker. Is this inherent or should the photos be a >certain format. >Thank You > >__________________________________________________________________ > >PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" > >send for more info: >__________________________________________________________________ > > __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 28-Dec-1998 19:01:25-GMT,4277;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA03082 for ; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 12:01:25 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA27284; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 12:58:05 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 28 Dec 1998 12:53:45 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA26875; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 12:53:44 -0600 Date: 28 Dec 98 12:55:27 -0600 From: Jeff Rochon Subject: RE: [PDF] DARK IMAGES ON PC'S To: pdf X-Mailer: QuickMail Pro 1.5.3 (Mac) X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-Ascii" Message-ID: <1297251536-32083008@jdtv.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id MAA26871 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Reply to: RE: [PDF] DARK IMAGES ON PC'S this is probably due to the fact that the monitor on the pc is not calibrated correctly. i can make a image look how ever i want by playing with the controls. it is the exact same image information that was displayed on the mac. just the monitor on the pc is displaying it differently. you will have to get some calibration software for your monitor, but keep in mind that this is almost impossible to control with end-user machines. one way would be to create a document for them to set their monitor to. Cyan software did this for playing the game RIVEN. it was an image that you adjusted the brightness and contrast on to reveal a dark image. once set your machine is close to displaying the file in the colors it was created. hope this helps! jeff BADzign wrote: > >< ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > >I have created a pdf catalogue in Pagemaker on a Macintosh. When it is opened >on a PC, the photos are darker. Is this inherent or should the photos be a >certain format. >Thank You > >__________________________________________________________________ > >PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" > >send for more info: >__________________________________________________________________ > > >RFC822 header >----------------------------------- > > Return-Path: > Received: from everglades.binc.net (208.155.48.8) by jdtv.com with ESMTP > (Eudora Internet Mail Server 2.2); Mon, 28 Dec 1998 12:31:54 -0600 > Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) > by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA25068; > Mon, 28 Dec 1998 12:30:34 -0600 > Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 28 Dec 1998 >12:27:16 -0600 > Received: (from majordom@localhost) > by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA24653; > Mon, 28 Dec 1998 12:27:14 -0600 > From: BADzign@aol.com > Message-ID: <3728f82e.3687cd70@aol.com> > Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 13:26:56 EST > To: PDF@lists.pdfzone.com > Mime-Version: 1.0 > Subject: [PDF] DARK IMAGES ON PC'S > Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit > X-Mailer: AOL 3.0.1 for Mac sub 82 > Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com > X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html > X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf > X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com > __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 28-Dec-1998 19:18:04-GMT,2522;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA03561 for ; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 12:18:02 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA28933; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 13:16:19 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 28 Dec 1998 13:12:18 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA28555; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 13:12:17 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: kfoss@mailbag.com Message-Id: Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 13:10:50 -0600 To: PDF@lists.pdfzone.com From: "Aandi Inston" Subject: RE: [PDF] PDF Files Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > I do not believe Word Perfect carries links into PDF files and there is nothing you can do to persuade it to do so. There is an add-on for Word. I have to say, though you will hate this advice, that doing a 1600 page document in any word processor sounds an unsuitable choice of tools. If you'd used FrameMaker the job would have been easier -and- the links would have made it to PDF. Aandi > I have prepared a book of about 1600 pages which I have > separated into separate > documents for each chapter. I created the documents in > WordPerfect 8 which has > index codes and cross-reference links. I have printed these > files to postscript > files and then used Distiller to make the PDF documents. The > hypertext links do > not carry though to the PDF document. What do I need to do > this? This is my > first attempt to make PDF files. The WordPerfect documents > have the links > underlined and in color showing them in the document and when > clicked go to the > designated place. > Thanks > Marie Dryden __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 28-Dec-1998 20:01:19-GMT,3367;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA04454 for ; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 13:01:18 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA32159; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 13:56:56 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 28 Dec 1998 13:52:56 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA31861; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 13:52:55 -0600 Message-ID: <885A4EB7A494D211A832006097925E3C1B3EB0@cas02.cas-inc.com> From: "Saccuzzo, Robin" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] Catalog error Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 13:55:58 -0600 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Rick, If you are accessing the network from a pc then try mapping the network drive on the pc in windows explorer first. This should fix your problem. Best, Robin > -----Original Message----- > From: rick.sapir@glbsoft.com [SMTP:rick.sapir@glbsoft.com] > Sent: Monday, December 28, 1998 7:24 AM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: [PDF] Catalog error > > > < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > > I'm trying to create an Acrobat catalog, but have trouble generating a > catalog index for a group of files on an NT network. I get the following > > error when create a new catalog index and try to build it: > > Starting build. > Connecting to index. > Search Engine Message: (0) Error E0-0416 (Vct): UIO open error 13 > (Permission denied) > file = K:\GLOBAL\CATALOGS\AS4AP\assists\00000000.abt, mode = C > Search Engine Message: (0) Error E0-0702 (Dstream): Error writing to > K:\GLOBAL\CATALOGS\AS4AP\assists\00000000.abt > Index Build Failed. > K:\GLOBAL\RICK\TOM\DEMO3\CATALOGS\AS4AP.PDX - Index Build Failed. > > I've copied all the files to my local PC and built the catalog from there > > and things are fine. I've then re-copied the PDX file and (all the > associated folders) back to the network. I was able to schedule and > rebuild the index without a problem (so I know there is no problem with > read/write authorities on the network). > > The error only occurs when creating an initial index. > > Any ideas? > > Rick Sapir > rick.sapir@glbsoft.com > > __________________________________________________________________ > > PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" > > send for more info: > __________________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 28-Dec-1998 20:27:42-GMT,2514;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA04956 for ; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 13:27:41 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA01395; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 14:23:51 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 28 Dec 1998 14:19:18 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA01078; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 14:19:17 -0600 Message-ID: <71CC3A1781FAD11196C500805FE606B2032AAA48@lnxdayexch03.lexis-nexis.com> From: "Bernard, Robert K." To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Modifying PDF files and saving them in a PRN file Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 15:19:04 -0500 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > I am trying to distribute PDF material to my sales reps, and I would like them to be able to use their Acrobat Readers to text into designated fields. After they have modified the PDF files, they would to send them to me so that I can send get these customized versions printed at a digital printer and sent back to them. Since they only have Reader software, can their input be captured by "print to file" and sent to me as PRN files? I have tested this, using Imprint software to print the incoming PRN files, but the results are variable. Sometimes the rep input appears in the resulting printed file, and sometimes not. And the fonts associated with the files modified by the reps vary with their printers. Would I have better luck running these rep-modified PRN files through Distiller and then printing from the resulting PDF file? Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. Bob Bernard robert.bernard@lexis-nexis.com __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 28-Dec-1998 21:43:27-GMT,2698;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA06532 for ; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 14:43:27 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA07599; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 15:38:19 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 28 Dec 1998 15:33:49 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA07240; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 15:33:47 -0600 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Modifying PDF files and saving them in a PRN file Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 21:33:12 -0000 Message-ID: <000401be32a9$c2019ce0$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <71CC3A1781FAD11196C500805FE606B2032AAA48@lnxdayexch03.lexis-nexis.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > I am trying to distribute PDF material to my sales reps, and > I would like > them to be able to use their Acrobat Readers to text into > designated fields. > After they have modified the PDF files, they would to send > them to me so > that I can send get these customized versions printed at a > digital printer > and sent back to them. > > Since they only have Reader software, can their input be > captured by "print > to file" and sent to me as PRN files? The correct approach is to buy them Exchange and have them do "Export form data" after filling the forms. This writes an "FDF" file which they can send to you, and which you can import. Alternatively, consider the Re:Mark plug-in (together with Exchange) for everyone. Don't be short sited for the sake of a few software licenses. Reader is not designed to help you implement this sort of system. Aandi __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 28-Dec-1998 21:54:03-GMT,3250;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA06751 for ; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 14:54:02 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA08940; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 15:51:36 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 28 Dec 1998 15:47:38 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA08545; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 15:47:36 -0600 Message-ID: <71CC3A1781FAD11196C500805FE606B2032AAA4C@lnxdayexch03.lexis-nexis.com> From: "Bernard, Robert K." To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Modifying PDF files and saving them in a PRN file Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 16:47:24 -0500 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Thanks, Aandi. I was coming to that conclusion also. Just wanted to see if I was missing something. > -----Original Message----- > From: Aandi Inston [SMTP:quite@dial.pipex.com] > Sent: Monday, December 28, 1998 4:33 PM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: RE: [PDF] Modifying PDF files and saving them in a PRN file > > > < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > > > > I am trying to distribute PDF material to my sales reps, and > > I would like > > them to be able to use their Acrobat Readers to text into > > designated fields. > > After they have modified the PDF files, they would to send > > them to me so > > that I can send get these customized versions printed at a > > digital printer > > and sent back to them. > > > > Since they only have Reader software, can their input be > > captured by "print > > to file" and sent to me as PRN files? > > The correct approach is to buy them Exchange and have them do > "Export form data" after filling the forms. > > This writes an "FDF" file which they can send to you, and which > you can import. > > Alternatively, consider the Re:Mark plug-in (together with > Exchange) for everyone. > > Don't be short sited for the sake of a few software licenses. > Reader is not designed to help you implement this sort of system. > > Aandi > > __________________________________________________________________ > > PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" > > send for more info: > __________________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 28-Dec-1998 22:14:59-GMT,2116;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA07235 for ; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 15:14:58 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA10488; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 16:10:35 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 28 Dec 1998 16:06:35 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA10206; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 16:06:33 -0600 Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 17:06:30 -0500 (EST) X-Sender: kingkern@mail.eclipse.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199812282133.PAA07258@everglades.binc.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: jim kramer Subject: Re: [PDF] DARK IMAGES ON PC'S Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > >From: BADzign@aol.com >Subject: [PDF] DARK IMAGES ON PC'S > >I have created a pdf catalogue in Pagemaker on a Macintosh. When it is opened >on a PC, the photos are darker. You might want to try a utility called GammaToggle FKEY available at: http://www.acts.org/roland/thanks/ It switches your Mac from your saved gamma (if you have one), to ordinary Mac gamma, to an approximate PC gamma. You can adjust the gamma on your pictures so that they're somewhat in-between and look acceptable on both platforms. Jim Kramer __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 28-Dec-1998 22:30:50-GMT,3794;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA07599 for ; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 15:30:49 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA11772; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 16:28:31 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 28 Dec 1998 16:24:39 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA11549; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 16:24:38 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19981228165917.0088fdd0@spc.sugar-land.omnes.net> X-Sender: ziegler@spc.sugar-land.omnes.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 16:59:17 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Wolfgang Ziegler Subject: Re: [PDF] DARK IMAGES ON PC'S In-Reply-To: <002e01be3291$8e55ffc0$c88a14d1@prometheus.main> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Hi, most newer graphics cards have a gamma correction in their control panel utility. For White Point of 5000 Kelvin Gamma of 1.8 is recommended (I run somewhat lower) - there are test images available which will help to evaluate (coarse calibration) these settings. These are not 'universal' and depend on the application (some do gamma internally) and other conditions. You can get more information from the major graphics software companies (web) or send me a message. regards, Wolfgang Ziegler At 10:40 AM 12/28/98 -0800, you wrote: > >< ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > >I believe you're dealing with monitor gamma issues - PC's often show >graphics darker than Macs. It's a bugaboo we deal with on the web all of the >time... > >I don't know any great fix - if you find one, let me know... > >Ian > >The Written Word, Inc. >Information Design Online, On Paper, and On the Web >http://www.writtenword.com >ian@writtenword.com >-----Original Message----- >From: BADzign@aol.com >To: PDF@lists.pdfzone.com >Date: Monday, December 28, 1998 10:37 AM >Subject: [PDF] DARK IMAGES ON PC'S > > >> >>< ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > >> >>I have created a pdf catalogue in Pagemaker on a Macintosh. When it is >opened >>on a PC, the photos are darker. Is this inherent or should the photos be a >>certain format. >>Thank You >> >>__________________________________________________________________ >> >>PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" >> >>send for more info: >>__________________________________________________________________ >> >> > > >__________________________________________________________________ > >PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" > >send for more info: >__________________________________________________________________ > > __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 28-Dec-1998 23:09:51-GMT,3866;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA08380 for ; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 16:09:50 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA14047; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 17:05:23 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 28 Dec 1998 16:59:21 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA13612; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 16:59:17 -0600 X-Sender: prodok@pop.eunet.ch Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <71CC3A1781FAD11196C500805FE606B2032AAA48@lnxdayexch03.lexis-nexis.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 23:54:35 +0100 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Max Wyss Subject: Re: [PDF] Modifying PDF files and saving them in a PRN file Cc: "Bernard, Robert K." Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Bob, Your sales rep can print to a PostScript file which you then could redistill (although this practice is not necessarily considered to be good). You would have to make sure that your sales reps are actually using a PostScript printer driver for that operation. Another thing you could consider is to get Exchange. As you don't say how many sales reps you have, it could either be getting full Acrobat 3 packages, or see whether it would be worthwile to get Exchange in bulk. With this solution, it would be way easier for your sales reps to handle those specific forms. Another thing to keep in mind is that input in a field appears only when the field is actually left. So, filling out a field and then pressing Command-P does not print out the field's content. The psychological workaround would be to place a "Print" button on the form. When you click on that button, you have actually left the text field, and everything should come through. Hope, this can help. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering AG Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch WWW: http://www.prodok.ch/prodok Bridging the Knowledge Gap ______________________ >I am trying to distribute PDF material to my sales reps, and I would like >them to be able to use their Acrobat Readers to text into designated fields. >After they have modified the PDF files, they would to send them to me so >that I can send get these customized versions printed at a digital printer >and sent back to them. > >Since they only have Reader software, can their input be captured by "print >to file" and sent to me as PRN files? I have tested this, using Imprint >software to >print the incoming PRN files, but the results are variable. Sometimes the >rep input appears in the resulting printed file, and sometimes not. And >the >fonts associated with the files modified by the reps vary with their >printers. > >Would I have better luck running these rep-modified PRN files through >Distiller and then printing from the resulting PDF file? > >Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. > >Bob Bernard __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 29-Dec-1998 0:45:47-GMT,3207;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA10300 for ; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 17:45:46 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA19296; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 18:41:22 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 28 Dec 1998 18:35:31 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA19024; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 18:35:30 -0600 Message-Id: <199812290035.SAA19019@everglades.binc.net> Subject: Re: [PDF] Modifying PDF files and saving them in a PRN file Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 19:35:28 -0500 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: Mark Gavin To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > [Bernard, Robert K. wrote on 12/28/98 3:19 PM] >I am trying to distribute PDF material to my sales reps, and I would like >them to be able to use their Acrobat Readers to text into designated fields. >After they have modified the PDF files, they would to send them to me so >that I can send get these customized versions printed at a digital printer >and sent back to them. > Bernard, You could setup a web server and a simple cgi Perl script to capture submitted form data. Have the sales reps fill out the form and submit the form data to your web server. The FDF files could be saved locally on the server file system or the submitted data can be parsed and placed into a simple database. On your web server combine the saved FDF with the form template PDF file and print. The form can probably be filled on your web server using Acrobat Exchange and a OLE script, a custom Acrobat plug-in or by manually doing an import. You could also look into our FDFMerge product; a stand-alone application designed specifically to fill in PDF form files using an FDF file. There are a variety of tools for printing PDF files in an unattended server environment. Adobe even includes a sample print application with the PDF Library. The above method will allow your sales reps to use Reader; though, it would really be a good idea to purchase copies of Acrobat Exchange for the increased flexibility and all of the great features. Mark Gavin Vice President, Software Development Digital Applications, Inc. 215 East Providence Road Aldan, PA, USA 19018-4129 (610) 284-4006 mgavin@DigApp.com http://www.DigApp.com __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 29-Dec-1998 1:25:06-GMT,4000;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA11062 for ; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 18:25:05 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA21507; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 19:20:43 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 28 Dec 1998 19:15:29 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA21168; Mon, 28 Dec 1998 19:15:27 -0600 Message-ID: <71CC3A1781FAD11196C500805FE606B2032AAA51@lnxdayexch03.lexis-nexis.com> From: "Bernard, Robert K." To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Modifying PDF files and saving them in a PRN file Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 20:15:15 -0500 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Thanks! I will see if I can get server permissions to install. > -----Original Message----- > From: Mark Gavin [SMTP:mgavin_list@digapp.com] > Sent: Monday, December 28, 1998 7:35 PM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: Re: [PDF] Modifying PDF files and saving them in a PRN file > > > < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > > [Bernard, Robert K. wrote on 12/28/98 3:19 PM] > > >I am trying to distribute PDF material to my sales reps, and I would like > >them to be able to use their Acrobat Readers to text into designated > fields. > >After they have modified the PDF files, they would to send them to me so > >that I can send get these customized versions printed at a digital > printer > >and sent back to them. > > > > Bernard, > You could setup a web server and a simple cgi Perl script to capture > submitted form data. Have the sales reps fill out the form and submit > the form data to your web server. The FDF files could be saved locally > on the server file system or the submitted data can be parsed and placed > into a simple database. > > On your web server combine the saved FDF with the form template PDF file > and print. The form can probably be filled on your web server using > Acrobat Exchange and a OLE script, a custom Acrobat plug-in or by > manually doing an import. You could also look into our FDFMerge product; > a stand-alone application designed specifically to fill in PDF form files > using an FDF file. > > There are a variety of tools for printing PDF files in an unattended > server environment. Adobe even includes a sample print application with > the PDF Library. > > The above method will allow your sales reps to use Reader; though, it > would really be a good idea to purchase copies of Acrobat Exchange for > the increased flexibility and all of the great features. > > > Mark Gavin > Vice President, Software Development > Digital Applications, Inc. > 215 East Providence Road > Aldan, PA, USA 19018-4129 > (610) 284-4006 > mgavin@DigApp.com > http://www.DigApp.com > > > > > __________________________________________________________________ > > PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" > > send for more info: > __________________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 29-Dec-1998 7:30:14-GMT,1751;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA17579 for ; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 00:30:11 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA08915; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 01:25:38 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 29 Dec 1998 01:18:36 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA08457; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 01:18:34 -0600 Message-ID: <36887E88.709624F2@pacific.net.sg> Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 15:02:32 +0800 From: jo leong X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] PDF from Freehand X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Hi, does anyone have any experience converting publications created using Macromedia's Freehand into PDF documents ? I was wondering if there is a better way than using PDF writer. Jo __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 29-Dec-1998 7:30:13-GMT,2634;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA17576 for ; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 00:30:10 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA08916; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 01:25:39 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 29 Dec 1998 01:18:46 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA08480; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 01:18:45 -0600 Message-Id: <98Dec29.091747gmt+0100.29573-1@baz-s-fw.baz.ch> From: Yannick Wolf To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: Re:[PDF] StandalonePDFWriter? Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 08:20:04 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Acrobat Lite Edition does not contain any pdf producing tools, as Distiller or PDF Writer. It is only the Acrobat Exchange Viewer. If you need PDF Writer, you have to buy the full Acrobat Exchange. Yannick ===================== Yannick Wolf PDF Team BMG ComServ Das Softwarehaus der Basler Mediengruppe Hochbergerstrasse 15 CH-4002 Basel, Postfach Tel :++4161 639 16 84 Fax :++4161 631 53 10 Mail : y.wolf@baz.ch http://www.bmgcomserv.ch ===================== ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 00:37:56 -0800 From: Scottie Subject: Re: [PDF] StandalonePDFWriter? < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Not that I know of. There was some mentioning of Acrobat Lite for around $50.00. I don't know what ever happen to it. Michel Laurin wrote: > > < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > > Wasn't there at a certain point in time a special product from Adobe that > was retailed around 29.95$ USD which was a Reader and a PDF Writer? > mlaurin@a2i.ca __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 29-Dec-1998 13:15:38-GMT,3291;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA23648 for ; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 06:15:37 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA25441; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 07:10:56 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 29 Dec 1998 07:06:23 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA25178; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 07:06:21 -0600 Message-Id: <199812291306.AA00448@pcrw11.wiwi.uni-regensburg.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 4.2mach v148) Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Image-Url: http://www-wi.uni-regensburg.de/~row01458/wolfgang-icon.tiff X-Face: .Ap+Z`I,RA9o3)"UCIz5<#.miUqM<-$Aj$`sM8\.u&)/bGLRRHL0ic/O5k#9'"s2;[`(M; hwx%fB[b:a%T/mg-#O8U|,RW3M'2@yK2C0=hl4*_N:gQ!ssMRYE!*QMxGat+eL}`sdH.;( tvnPfqXHc>DhyO X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mail 4.2mach (Enhance 2.2p1) From: Wolfgang Roeckelein Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 14:05:59 +0100 To: "Acrobat Talk Mailing List" , pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Problem with WWW link X-Url: http://www-wi.uni-regensburg.de/~row01458/ Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Hi, In one of my PDF files I have a relative WWW Link (just the filename) to a jpg graphic. When I click on that link inside a web browser, I get a browser crash, sometimes after displaying the graphic. This happens on all Communicator 45 versions (winNT & win95 & solaris & irix) and both Reader 3.01 and Exchange 3.01 (ie the plugin using this programs) I could access. On other Navigator/Communicator versions nothing happens when I click on the link. Using a base URL just gives slightly different results but no success. The jpg graphic loads fine when directly loaded in thr browser. Has anybody experienced similar problems? any suggestions? Thank you very much in advance, Wolfgang --- Dipl.-Wirtsch.Inf. Voice: +49 941 943 3205 Wolfgang R=F6ckelein Fax: +49 941 943 3211 Uni Regensburg E-Mail: wolfgang.roeckelein@wiwi.uni-regensburg.de Universit=E4tsstr. 31 (MIME and NeXTmail ok) D-93053 Regensburg WWW: http://www-wi.uni-regensburg.de/~row01458/ Germany Talk: row01458@pcrw11.uni-regensburg.de GCM/B d-- s: a- C++ US+++$ UX+++ P+ L E? 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(Geek Code V3.x) F=FCr den BND: Plutonium RAF Pullach Waffe PGP Geheim Munition Kanther = Kurde Sex = __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 29-Dec-1998 13:51:21-GMT,2206;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA24257 for ; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 06:51:20 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA27649; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 07:47:02 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 29 Dec 1998 07:42:12 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA27255; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 07:42:08 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <368792F3.9D378E03@realworld.com.au> References: <61EFB2F4D374D111AB160001FAD4392301A74519@atlexchange2.ces.net> Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 08:41:54 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Jonathan Bauer Subject: [PDF] PDF Mark introduction? Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Hello all: I have raised a couple of questions on this list and on Framers having to do with integrating video clips with PDF where the source file is being prepared in FrameMaker. I have received useful responses, one of which suggests the use of PDF marks in Frame. I downloaded the pdfmark manual, however I do not really understand it. I am too unfamiliar with the terminology. Can anyone suggest a book or other source for introductory information on the use of PDF Marks? TIA, /jonathan mailto:jhbauer@akula.com __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 29-Dec-1998 13:58:29-GMT,2306;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA24393 for ; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 06:58:28 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA28489; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 07:56:15 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 29 Dec 1998 07:52:25 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA28128; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 07:52:23 -0600 Message-Id: <199812291352.HAA28122@everglades.binc.net> Subject: Re: [PDF] Combining PDF Files Date: Tue, 29 Dec 98 08:56:18 -0400 x-sender: twhite@mail.spacelab.net x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v2, June 6, 1997 From: Tony White To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > >< ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > >Hi - > >1 - it certainly works on the PC - don't know about Mac >2 - INTO Exchange, but using Explorer to drag the files FROM >3 - yes - first page must be opened in Exchange > >Good Luck, > >Mark In response to point 1 above. On the Mac platform PDF files can be automatically combined using Acrobat Exchange and AppleScript. For example, you can use AppleScript to automatically walk through folders and combine individual PDFs into a single PDF file. I am not up to speed on what you can do on other platforms. All the best. Tony White Tony White Designs, Inc. 118 Remsen Street Brooklyn, NY 11201 Tel: 718-797-4175 Fax: 718-797-2090 __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 29-Dec-1998 14:05:18-GMT,2618;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA24518 for ; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 07:05:17 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA29232; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 08:02:58 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 29 Dec 1998 07:59:01 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA28804; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 07:58:59 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <368792F3.9D378E03@realworld.com.au> <61EFB2F4D374D111AB160001FAD4392301A74519@atlexchange2.ces.net> Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 08:02:35 -0600 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Kurt Foss Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF Mark introduction? Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Check out a review of Thomas Merz's book "Web Publishing with Acrobat/PDF" from a June '98 issue of PDFzone EXTRA, which includes a pointer to his freely downloadable pdf file on PDFMark Basics: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/extra/extra61298.html#New rgds ~ Kurt === At 7:41 AM -0600 12/29/98, Jonathan Bauer wrote: < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Can anyone suggest a book or other source for introductory information on the use of PDF Marks? __________________________________________________ * P D F z o n e . C O M * __________________________________________________ 579 D'Onofrio Dr. (608)829-0183 Suite 104 EMAIL: mailto:info@pdfzone.com Madison, WI 53719 WWW: http://www.pdfzone.com/ ------------------------------------------------------------- Lists info: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 29-Dec-1998 14:26:30-GMT,3003;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA24853 for ; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 07:26:29 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA30704; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 08:21:37 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 29 Dec 1998 08:17:04 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA30371; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 08:17:02 -0600 Message-ID: <01BE32A7.5A563940.David_Tamburello@mazer.com> From: Dave Tamburello To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] PDF Mark introduction? Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1998 21:16:35 -0800 Organization: Mazer Corporation X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Jonathan, You might want to check out chapter six of Thomas Merz's "Web Publishing with Acrobat/PDF". It is available at his site at http://www.ifconnection.de/~tm/. Look for "PDF Primer". It is a free download. The book is a great resource. Dave Tamburello Training Specialist Adobe Acrobat 3.0 Certified Expert Mazer ePublishing (616) 285-3900 -----Original Message----- From: Jonathan Bauer [SMTP:jhbauer@akula.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 1998 5:42 AM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] PDF Mark introduction? < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Hello all: I have raised a couple of questions on this list and on Framers having to do with integrating video clips with PDF where the source file is being prepared in FrameMaker. I have received useful responses, one of which suggests the use of PDF marks in Frame. I downloaded the pdfmark manual, however I do not really understand it. I am too unfamiliar with the terminology. Can anyone suggest a book or other source for introductory information on the use of PDF Marks? TIA, /jonathan mailto:jhbauer@akula.com __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 29-Dec-1998 16:03:37-GMT,2736;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA26734 for ; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 09:03:35 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA05582; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 09:59:12 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 29 Dec 1998 09:55:21 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA05290; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 09:55:18 -0600 Message-ID: <90001230CD9ED111B47F00608CF26D1E189E17@ARTHUR> From: Karl De Abrew To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Combining PDF Files Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 02:54:29 +1100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Just to add to Tony's post. You can also do this using OLE on the Windows platform. An example of doing this can be found at our Code Cuts website, http://www.codecuts.com/ under the "acrobat iac" menu. Look for "How to merge all of the pdf files into one folder" regards, Karl De Abrew karl@roundtable.com.au A Round Table Solution - Planet PDF is here http://www.planetpdf.com/ http://www.roundtable.com.au/ ---- In response to point 1 above. On the Mac platform PDF files can be automatically combined using Acrobat Exchange and AppleScript. For example, you can use AppleScript to automatically walk through folders and combine individual PDFs into a single PDF file. I am not up to speed on what you can do on other platforms. All the best. Tony White Tony White Designs, Inc. 118 Remsen Street Brooklyn, NY 11201 Tel: 718-797-4175 Fax: 718-797-2090 __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 29-Dec-1998 18:35:25-GMT,2160;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA29683 for ; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 11:35:24 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA17118; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 12:30:33 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 29 Dec 1998 12:21:33 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA16452; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 12:21:31 -0600 From: "Stan Glenn" To: Subject: [PDF] page numbering for PDF file? Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 10:22:24 -0800 Message-ID: <000901be3358$2e810aa0$8e5c96d1@sglenn.cbspayroll.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <01BE32A7.5A563940.David_Tamburello@mazer.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > I combined about 200 small PDF files into one HUGE file of over 600 pages. The originals were HTML files with no page numbering (converted to PDF using PDFWriter from word97--then all files added to make one large one). Is there a way to have Acrobat now number each page in the large PDF file? Thanks. Stan Glenn CBS Employer Services San Bernardino, CA sglenn@cbspayroll.com __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 29-Dec-1998 19:34:50-GMT,2372;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA01072 for ; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 12:34:49 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA21703; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 13:32:16 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 29 Dec 1998 13:29:15 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA21452; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 13:29:14 -0600 Message-Id: <199812291929.NAA21447@everglades.binc.net> Subject: Re: [PDF] page numbering for PDF file? Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 14:29:13 -0500 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: Mark Gavin To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > [Stan Glenn wrote on 12/29/98 1:22 PM] >I combined about 200 small PDF files into one HUGE file of over 600 pages. >The originals were HTML files with no page numbering (converted to PDF using >PDFWriter from word97--then all files added to make one large one). Is >there a way to have Acrobat now number each page in the large PDF file? > >Thanks. >Stan Glenn >CBS Employer Services >San Bernardino, CA >sglenn@cbspayroll.com > Stan, Our StampPDF plug-in will do page numbering on the entire document or ranges of pages within the document. More information on StampPDF can be found on our web site at http://www.digapp.com. Mark Gavin Vice President, Software Development Digital Applications, Inc. 215 East Providence Road Aldan, PA, USA 19018-4129 (610) 284-4006 mgavin@DigApp.com http://www.DigApp.com __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 29-Dec-1998 21:07:21-GMT,2237;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA02861 for ; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 14:07:20 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA28495; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 15:06:39 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 29 Dec 1998 15:03:00 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA28241; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 15:02:57 -0600 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] page numbering for PDF file? Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 20:19:27 -0000 Message-ID: <000701be336e$9cc18560$0101c6c0@gateway> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <000901be3358$2e810aa0$8e5c96d1@sglenn.cbspayroll.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > I combined about 200 small PDF files into one HUGE file of > over 600 pages. > The originals were HTML files with no page numbering > (converted to PDF using > PDFWriter from word97--then all files added to make one large > one). Is > there a way to have Acrobat now number each page in the large > PDF file? As well as StampPDF (I didn't know about that one) there is Compose (www.ambia.com) and our own Quite Imposing Plus (www.quite.com). Aandi __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 30-Dec-1998 0:31:50-GMT,2356;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA06943 for ; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 17:31:49 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA09740; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 18:31:13 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 29 Dec 1998 18:28:28 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA09428; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 18:28:27 -0600 Message-ID: <368A0EA8.9D07988F@realworld.com.au> Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 11:29:44 +0000 From: Dean Laffan X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] DARK IMAGES ON PC'S References: <3728f82e.3687cd70@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > BADzign@aol.com wrote: > < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > > I have created a pdf catalogue in Pagemaker on a Macintosh. When it is opened > on a PC, the photos are darker. Is this inherent or should the photos be a > certain format. > Thank You As posts have described, it is inherent. We capture video for playback on Macs and PC's and find that to match the look, we need to bump the gamma to +30 when compressing for the PC. Short of each end user adjusting their screen there is no magic fix to my knowledge. Our approach is to say if the majority of users are PC based, bump the gamma to a level more weighted to the PCs than the Mac. Dean Real World __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 30-Dec-1998 0:31:55-GMT,2303;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA06950 for ; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 17:31:54 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA09739; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 18:31:13 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 29 Dec 1998 18:28:05 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA09347; Tue, 29 Dec 1998 18:27:59 -0600 Message-ID: <368A0E8C.DBD8FD72@realworld.com.au> Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 11:29:16 +0000 From: Dean Laffan X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF Files References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Aandi Inston wrote: > < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > > I do not believe Word Perfect carries links into PDF files > and there is nothing you can do to persuade it to do so. > > There is an add-on for Word. The add-on Aandi mentions is PDF Maker from Adobe. It was available for free download from Adobe.com a while ago, I'm not sure it still is, plus I lost the URL download. Of course this is Word not WordPerfect, but presumably it would be easy to open the Wordperfect file in Word and then print from there, or are there formatting issues which might cause problems in such a file ? Dean Real World __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 30-Dec-1998 12:56:03-GMT,3187;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA20466 for ; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 05:56:00 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA16719; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 06:50:15 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 30 Dec 1998 06:46:10 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA16488; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 06:46:09 -0600 Message-ID: <00EF773582D6D111939D00A0C9A92F64029EA7D2@il0015exch003u.ih.lucent.com> From: "Farrell, Kevin (Kevin)" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] page numbering for PDF file? Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 06:46:10 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Using the Compose 3.3.1 plug-in "Document Paginator" tool, you can do this. Here's the info on the plug-in: http://www.ambia.com/compose/ Here's the URL for a 30 day free trial: http://www.ambia.com/compose.register.htm Document Paginator will allow you to create "headers" and "footers" in the document, AS WELL AS hide existing headers/footers! This tool will do what you're asking and you can test it for free for 30 days. _____________________________________ Kevin Farrell Lucent Technologies (EMNS) *Voice (630) 224-6890 *Pager (630) 680-6367 -----Original Message----- From: Aandi Inston [mailto:quite@dial.pipex.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 1998 2:19 PM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] page numbering for PDF file? < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > I combined about 200 small PDF files into one HUGE file of > over 600 pages. > The originals were HTML files with no page numbering > (converted to PDF using > PDFWriter from word97--then all files added to make one large > one). Is > there a way to have Acrobat now number each page in the large > PDF file? As well as StampPDF (I didn't know about that one) there is Compose (www.ambia.com) and our own Quite Imposing Plus (www.quite.com). Aandi __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 30-Dec-1998 13:21:04-GMT,2540;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA20910 for ; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 06:21:03 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA18463; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 07:18:54 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 30 Dec 1998 07:16:16 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA18235; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 07:16:14 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <368A0E8C.DBD8FD72@realworld.com.au> References: Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 07:19:51 -0600 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Kurt Foss Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF Files Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > At 5:29 AM -0600 12/30/98, Dean Laffan wrote: The add-on Aandi mentions is PDF Maker from Adobe. It was available for free download from Adobe.com a while ago, I'm not sure it still is, plus I lost the URL download. --- It's one of numerous conversion/creation tools listed here: http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/toolinfo_convert.html P.S. If you know of other pdf-related tools -- in any of the categories shown -- that currently aren't listed, please send us an email with the specifics. We update the list regularly. rgds ~ Kurt __________________________________________________ * P D F z o n e . C O M * __________________________________________________ 579 D'Onofrio Dr. (608)829-0183 Suite 104 EMAIL: mailto:info@pdfzone.com Madison, WI 53719 WWW: http://www.pdfzone.com/ ------------------------------------------------------------- Lists info: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 30-Dec-1998 13:52:29-GMT,2707;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA21421 for ; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 06:52:28 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA20350; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 07:48:16 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 30 Dec 1998 07:45:21 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA20134; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 07:45:19 -0600 Message-ID: <01BE33D1.059B5540.mastephenson@syrres.com> From: mastephenson@syrres.com (mark stephenson) To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] RE: pdf-digest for December-27-98 [V2 #403] Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 08:47:23 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > STeve - It certainly is possible to append (or prepend) multiple files to any PDF using the Explorer/Exchange apps. You simply 1) open the file (or first, single page, or whatever) in Exchange 2) in Explorer, select one or more files (using shift-click) 3) drag 'em from Explorer into the open file in Exchange 4) answer 'before' or 'after' to the dialog which pops up in Exchange 5) select Save or Save As to finish the deal . . works pretty while for those 'one' or 'two' situations, but a real pain when you have to do it repeatedly - for that you should find a good tool or write a program. regards, Mark >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not being a programmer, but a devoted user of Adobe pdf, I cannot for the life of me figure out why Adobe has not added the functionality into Exchange 2 and up to be able to add multiple pdf files into an existing pdf. Seems a rather trivial task in amending the dialogue box to allow multiple files to be appended? Mark Stephenson Software Engineer Syracuse Research Corporation (315) 452-8305 mastephenson@syrres.com __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 31-Dec-1998 0:53:02-GMT,2051;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA05621 for ; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 17:53:01 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA07540; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 18:48:36 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 30 Dec 1998 18:42:40 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA07041; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 18:42:37 -0600 Message-ID: <001401be3456$119100e0$946864c7@nathan.innosabah.com.my> From: "Nathan Lim" To: Subject: [PDF] [pdf] JG Oliver Custom Software - would like to contact you Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 08:38:14 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > Can someone representing "JG Oliver Custom Software " please reply to me privately as I would like more information on PDF Draftsman. Thanks Nathan Lim Innosabah Securities Sdn Bhd Kota Kinabalu, Sabah, Malaysia Tel:+60 (88) 234099 ext 6615 Fax:+60 (88) 241992 mailto:nathan.L@innosabah.com.my http://www.innosabah.com.my __________________________________________________________________ PDFzone.COM "Independent Hub to All Things PDF" send for more info: __________________________________________________________________ 31-Dec-1998 4:47:24-GMT,2264;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA09804 for ; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 21:47:23 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA22481; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 22:41:15 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 30 Dec 1998 22:38:15 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA22279; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 22:38:09 -0600 Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 17:35:20 +1300 (NZDT) X-Sender: both@pop3.netaccess.co.nz (Unverified) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <36887E88.709624F2@pacific.net.sg> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: "Andrew R. Both" Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF from Freehand Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-HOME: PDFzone.COM http://www.pdfzone.com X-LISTS: Sub/Unsub http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf X-CONTACT: List Administrator mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > At 3:02 PM +0800 on 29/12/98, jo leong wrote: > < ! -- Posted to the PDF email list, hosted by PDFzone.COM since 1995 -- > > > Hi, > > does anyone have any experience converting publications created using > Macromedia's Freehand into PDF documents ? I was wondering if there is a > better way than using PDF writer. > > << sure distill it with Distiller. just follow the print dialogue and select Acrobat ppd etc...... good results ___________________________________________________ "Time is a great teacher, but unfortunately it kills all its pupils." Hector Berlioz (1803-1869). 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