1-Apr-1999 15:42:49-GMT,2311;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id IAA17115 for ; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 08:42:39 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA30837; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 09:30:01 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 1 Apr 1999 09:22:31 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA30195; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 09:22:29 -0600 Message-Id: <9904019229.AA922980193@smtplink.dis.anl.gov> X-Mailer: ccMail Link to SMTP R6.01.01 Date: Thu, 01 Apr 99 09:21:28 -0600 From: "Pam Richmond" To: Subject: Re[2]: [PDF] Reformatting in WordPerfect MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Marie wrote: >I use WP8 and had problems and switched to Distiller postscript printer. >I had to download the printer drivers and as I do not have that printer. >... Have not had any further problems with repaginating. Marie, Even when I use Distiller with Adobe's PS driver version 4, it still repaginates. What version of the driver are you using? Thanks to all for your input. This is obviously a tough issue. The best solution is to prepare with this in mind, but we have thousands of pages (with graphics) that we need to PDF that weren't prepared this way because they are also being printed. PDF was an afterthought. I want to limit reflow as much as possible, and I wanted to look into possible solutions before I just assumed that nothing could be done. Thanks! Pam _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 1-Apr-1999 15:47:50-GMT,2797;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id IAA17267 for ; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 08:47:48 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA32062; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 09:42:41 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 1 Apr 1999 09:40:38 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA31828; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 09:40:36 -0600 From: Ihor Prociuk To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] reformatting in any wordprocessor In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.19990331161846.0068a068@omnipress.com> Message-ID: Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 10:37:55 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time) X-Mailer: Simeon for Win32 Version 4.1.5 Build (43) X-Authentication: IMSP MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> On Wed, 31 Mar 1999 17:18:47 -0500 Christopher Uschan wrote: > Word processors are printer driver dependent. Every time you take that WP > file to a different computer configured to a different printer driver your > text WILL reflow. ...[snip]... > > Solutions: > > 1. --Content is content, just because it reflows slightly different, has > the content changed? Imagine what this WP file would do if you took it to > HTML. If your customers are willing to sacrifice "exact" layout, let it > reflow. ...[snip]... A few years back, I was helping a legal secretary with some wordprocessing formatting and noticed the format of her transcripts. To make it easier to refer to previous testimony, every 5th line had a line number beside it in the left margin (1, 5, 10, etc.). The numbering restarted on each page. A lawyer could refer to specific text by telling the judge to look at, for example, "page 7, 2 lines above 10". I could understand why lawyers would not tolerate having the document reflowed. In this situation both layout and content are critial. ----------------------- Sincerely yours, Ihor Prociuk Information Commons University of Toronto _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 1-Apr-1999 15:52:30-GMT,2638;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id IAA17341 for ; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 08:52:24 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA32364; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 09:45:59 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 1 Apr 1999 09:44:11 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA32206; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 09:44:08 -0600 X-Server-Uuid: fc96bae8-3f98-11d2-a40d-00805f199815 Message-ID: From: "Kinstle, Joel" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: Re[2]: [PDF] Reformatting in WordPerfect Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 09:44:02 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) X-WSS-ID: 1B1D4C2D472384-01-01 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Pam Richmond said: > Thanks to all for your input. This is obviously a tough issue. The best > solution is to prepare with this in mind, but we have thousands of pages > (with > graphics) that we need to PDF that weren't prepared this way because they > are > also being printed. PDF was an afterthought. I want to limit reflow as > much as > possible, and I wanted to look into possible solutions before I just > assumed > that nothing could be done. > In case these were originally formatted for use on PCL printers, you may want to check the list archives--there's a product (which I always forget what it is since I know I can just check the list archives...) that gets discussed now and again that will render PCL files into PDF. I don't know how well it works, but it may be an answer for these older items. You could just change the properties on the printer to print to a file instead of a port, and nothing else should change and cause reflow. Just a thought. Joel Kinstle _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 1-Apr-1999 16:58:56-GMT,3153;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id JAA19019 for ; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 09:58:50 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA05476; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 10:53:04 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 1 Apr 1999 10:50:16 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA05253; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 10:50:14 -0600 Message-ID: <00ed01be7c5f$ca7d4fe0$3318fed0@sue> From: "Susan Gililland" To: Subject: Re: RE: [PDF] Reformatting in WordPerfect Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 08:39:42 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> This might help: Set up your printer (or add a new printer) with the same non-printable area as the printer that was originally used for the document. Open a blank document in WP and make sure that the new printer is selected. Make sure your "normal" template has the same margins and header/footer spacing (We're MSWord users and I can't remember if WP has a "normal" template) . THEN open the document, make sure that your page layout is correct and print to PDFWriter. SueG -----Original Message----- From: Aandi Inston To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: Wednesday, March 31, 1999 1:32 PM Subject: RE: RE: [PDF] Reformatting in WordPerfect > ><- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> ><- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> > >One thing that does occur to me is that you can sometimes minimize >the effect of reflow by making sure that the resolution selected >in PDFWriter is the same as that of the original printer. It doesn't >eliminate it, but many word processors use resolution as a key >factor in their reflowing exploits. > >Aandi > >> Aandi, >> That is what I suspected. We'll just have to do what we can with it. >> Thanks for the feedback. > >_____________________________________________________________ > > * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * > Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM > < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > > _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 1-Apr-1999 17:12:21-GMT,2826;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id KAA19411 for ; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 10:12:19 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA06820; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 11:07:44 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 1 Apr 1999 11:06:19 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA06582; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 11:06:13 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990401122024.00930ea0@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 12:20:24 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: Re[2]: [PDF] Reformatting in WordPerfect In-Reply-To: <9904019229.AA922980193@smtplink.dis.anl.gov> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> > >Marie, >Even when I use Distiller with Adobe's PS driver version 4, it still >repaginates. What version of the driver are you using? > The thing to remember is that it WILL repaginate when you switch drivers. It doesn't matter which driver you switch to or from, so long as they're different. The way you approach this problem in PageMaker is to target the driver for the ultimate output device while you're formatting the document in the first place. It seems to me that you'll need to do something similar. Yup, somebody will have to do the work of targeting the doc against the PS driver or PDFWriter, whichever you plan to use, and checking for/correcting reflow problems at that point, but that will be simpler and less expensive than doing it downstream. And as somebody has pointed out already, if you need both print and electronic versions of the files, you can always print from the PDFs. We've found that making PDFs of frequently printed docs is a lovely way to avoid this whole driver/reflow problem. Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 1-Apr-1999 17:37:46-GMT,3828;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id KAA20055 for ; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 10:37:44 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA09215; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 11:30:37 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 1 Apr 1999 11:29:10 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA09087; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 11:29:08 -0600 Message-ID: <00EF773582D6D111939D00A0C9A92F6403638EC2@il0015exch003u.ih.lucent.com> From: "Farrell, Kevin (Kevin)" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] Posting PDF to the Internet Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1999 07:45:54 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Can someone please explain how to set Internet Explorer 4.0 to be a Player and not a Plug-in? Thanks in advance, Kevin -----Original Message----- From: Tom Thiersch [mailto:thiersch@env-sol.com] Sent: Friday, March 26, 1999 10:20 AM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Posting PDF to the Internet <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> The 4MB limit is a "known bug" in both Netscape 4 and MS IE 4. This may or may not have been fixed in the newest MS IE 5.0 -- has anyone tested this yet? The only cure at this time is to run the Acrobat Reader as a helper instead of as a plug-in. This bug is "documented", but whatever documentation exists is apparently fairly well-hidden. Tom Thiersch At 10:55 AM 3/26/99 -0500, you wrote: > ><- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> ><- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> > >We have recently tried to place two of our software manuals on our company >Intranet and Internet site. For some reason, these two manuals will not >load when selected. It appears as though the browser is loading the manuals >and launching Acrobat Reader, but it only loads an empty screen. The files >are between 4 and 6 Mb in size and were created with FrameMaker. Has anyone >else experienced the similar problems or have any suggestions? > >Thanks in advance for any information you can provide. > > >Myranda Hughes >Ontario Systems Corporation >Myrandah@ontario.com > > > >__________________________________________________________________ > > * Do your civic duty -- VOTE TODAY at the PDF Polling Place * > Question of the Week: (Will You) 'Buy or Upgrade to Acrobat 4.0?' > Vote, then see the instant tally at > > __________________________________________________________________ * Do your civic duty -- VOTE TODAY at the PDF Polling Place * Question of the Week: (Will You) 'Buy or Upgrade to Acrobat 4.0?' Vote, then see the instant tally at _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 1-Apr-1999 17:54:47-GMT,3521;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id KAA20581 for ; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 10:54:42 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA10887; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 11:49:29 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 1 Apr 1999 11:47:55 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA10753; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 11:47:54 -0600 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19990401174752.0096f3a0@env-sol.com> X-Sender: thiersch@env-sol.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 09:47:52 -0800 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Tom Thiersch Subject: Re: Re[2]: [PDF] Reformatting in WordPerfect Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> At 12:20 PM 4/1/99 -0500, you wrote: > > >And as somebody has pointed out already, if you need both print and >electronic versions of the files, you can always print from the PDFs. >We've found that making PDFs of frequently printed docs is a lovely way to >avoid this whole driver/reflow problem. > > >Steve Rindsberg Steve, I agree with you about using PDFs to achieve consistent output (instead of fighting the reflow problem being discussed), with the following caveat: In Acrobat 3 and prior, you cannot force the embedding of the "Base 14" fonts in the PDF. So, if the document uses any of these "Base 14" fonts, there are at least 2 ways in Windows systems where the printed version can and will look different from the original. Take, for example, Helvetica. Windows will substitute "Arial" at every possible opportunity. Even if you get past this problem, the print driver may decide to use the "Helvetica" font that is resident in the printer itself, instead of downloading the real Type 1 Helvetica you thought you were using. Any of these substitutions will cause visible differences in your printed document, since no two implementations of the "same" font are actually identical. To work around this problem, where 100% accurate output is a critical issue, I've had to resort to using Type 1 fonts which are similar enough in quality and appearance to Times, Helvetica, etc. to produce the desired results, but which can always be embedded. This problem has reportedly been fixed in Acrobat 4, where you can now tell it to embed even the Base 14 fonts in the PDF. And, to ensure that the original embedded font is used from the point of PDF creation forward, Acrobat 4 will assign an internal name (e.g., "xxxx-Helvetica") so that the font cannot be accidentally substituted in subsequent display/print operations. Here's hoping that this is true -- I'd sure like to be able to reliably use the Base 14 fonts again without this particular worry again! Tom Thiersch _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 1-Apr-1999 18:46:08-GMT,2110;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id LAA22074 for ; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 11:46:01 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA14837; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 12:38:53 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 1 Apr 1999 12:36:46 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA14637; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 12:36:45 -0600 Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 13:31:59 -0500 From: Francois Leblanc Subject: [PDF] Please send your plug-in to Thomas Boone at Pfizer To: Bill Tsoublekas Cc: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-id: <002301be7c6d$eee99ec0$0901000a@francois.silanis.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Importance: Normal X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Bill, I will be on vacation tomorrow and Monday. As soon as you feel comfortable about the stability of your PDF plug-in, please send a copy to Thomas Boone at Pfizer (thomas_p_boone@groton.pfizer.com). I would like to get his feedback on the changes we've made to the plug-in. Thx! François P.S. Remember to compile a RETAIL version of the plug-in! _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 1-Apr-1999 18:56:46-GMT,3958;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id LAA22388 for ; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 11:56:40 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA15817; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 12:51:21 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 1 Apr 1999 12:49:57 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA15703; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 12:49:56 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990401140407.00931180@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 14:04:07 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: Re[2]: [PDF] Reformatting in WordPerfect In-Reply-To: <2.2.32.19990401174752.0096f3a0@env-sol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> > >Take, for example, Helvetica. Windows will substitute "Arial" at every >possible opportunity. I suspect (though to be honest I'm not absolutely certain) that Reader and Exchange will be pretty well immune to this. That is, IF you persuade the originating app to ask for Helvetica, and a check of the PDF Document/Fonts info bears out that it has. I think you're pretty well home free from that point on. Agreed, getting it to that point can be a trial. >Even if you get past this problem, the print driver >may decide to use the "Helvetica" font that is resident in the printer >itself, instead of downloading the real Type 1 Helvetica you thought you >were using. Any of these substitutions will cause visible differences in >your printed document, since no two implementations of the "same" font are >actually identical. True. And by and large, I'd say that the app/driver are far more likely to use the resident Helvetica than the one on the system unless you've modified PPDs to prevent it. All the same, you'd have far fewer problems due to mismatched Helveticas than you would from document reflows because of printer driver switches. Additionally, if there were variances between system's Helvetica and printer's, you wouldn't see reflows from the PDF ... that is, text wouldn't jump from one page to the next, there'd be no linebreak changes. More likely, individual slugs of text (lines or parts of lines) would get longer or shorter. Not acceptable in many circumstances, but a more minor nuisance than messed up pagination in others. IOW, it ain't perfect, but it's a whole lot better than the alternative. ;-) > >To work around this problem, where 100% accurate output is a critical issue, >I've had to resort to using Type 1 fonts which are similar enough in quality >and appearance to Times, Helvetica, etc. to produce the desired results, but >which can always be embedded. > Good point. And conversely, it can take a good bit of thumping on Word to get it to stick solely with the base 14 so that NO fonts are embedded, if that's what you're after (ie where absolute fidelity isn't an issue, but small PDF size is). Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 1-Apr-1999 19:34:57-GMT,3158;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id MAA23486 for ; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 12:34:51 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA18462; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 13:24:45 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 1 Apr 1999 13:23:08 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA18308; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 13:23:03 -0600 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19990401192309.009709d8@env-sol.com> X-Sender: thiersch@env-sol.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 11:23:09 -0800 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Tom Thiersch Subject: Re: Re[2]: [PDF] Reformatting in WordPerfect Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> At 02:04 PM 4/1/99 -0500, you wrote: >> >>Take, for example, Helvetica. Windows will substitute "Arial" at every >>possible opportunity. > >I suspect (though to be honest I'm not absolutely certain) that Reader and >Exchange will be pretty well immune to this. That is, IF you persuade the >originating app to ask for Helvetica, and a check of the PDF Document/Fonts >info bears out that it has. I think you're pretty well home free from that >point on. Agreed, getting it to that point can be a trial. > >Steve Rindsberg re: > "Reader and Exchange will be pretty well immune to this." Nope, not true. I *am* absolutely certain. Lack of fidelity of Helvetica and Times output from Acrobat Reader & Exchange is how I (painfully) became aware of this problem in the first place. Believe me, I checked every possible cause, and I finally was able to get Adobe Tech Support to admit that this was a real problem for which they had no solutions (other than to use non-Base 14 fonts). Mind you, I originally experienced the problem in a Win 3.1 environment, but Win 95, 98, and NT haven't really improved the situation very much. Obviously, text reflow is not the problem, since PDF (like PS) doesn't understand anything about paragraphs of text; however, when you're mixing fonts or weight on the same line (for emphasis, etc.), the difference in appearance can be very noticeable and annoying; worst case, you will even see overlapping characters and the like, particularly when you mix different sizes of the "same" font. I only hope that my bug reports helped push Adobe to fix this in Acrobat 4. Tom Thiersch _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 1-Apr-1999 20:41:02-GMT,2531;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id NAA25222 for ; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 13:40:30 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA23649; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 14:26:44 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 1 Apr 1999 14:23:24 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA23369; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 14:23:22 -0600 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] reformatting in any wordprocessor Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 21:23:06 +0100 Message-ID: <000b01be7c7d$747f2b40$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> > A few years back, I was helping a legal secretary with some > wordprocessing > formatting and noticed the format of her transcripts. To make > it easier > to refer to previous testimony, every 5th line had a line > number beside it > in the left margin (1, 5, 10, etc.). The numbering restarted > on each page. > A lawyer could refer to specific text by telling the judge to > look at, for > example, "page 7, 2 lines above 10". I could understand why > lawyers would > not tolerate having the document reflowed. In this situation > both layout > and content are critial. This is doubtless true, so why do they insist on using unsuitable tools? As lawyers they should perhaps understand better than most people that the procedure by which things are done is as important as the end result... Aandi _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 1-Apr-1999 21:04:31-GMT,1928;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id OAA25865 for ; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 14:04:29 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA26430; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 14:56:48 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 1 Apr 1999 14:55:15 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA26326; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 14:55:08 -0600 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.01 (295) Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 14:55:14 -0600 Subject: [PDF] epilogue & prologue with watched folders From: "Jeff Morrison" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <7726EE78604.AAA332A@mail.lasertechcolor.com> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> I read in a previous email that epilogue and prologue for spot colors will work with wathced folders as long as it is set up in the normal distiller job options and appears in your watched folder options as checked (even if it is grayed). I have tried this and had no success. Any suggestions? _______________________ Jeff Morrison Laser Tech Color Retail _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 1-Apr-1999 21:58:33-GMT,2289;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id OAA27265 for ; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 14:58:31 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA30821; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 15:47:50 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 1 Apr 1999 15:45:10 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA30567; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 15:45:06 -0600 X-Authentication-Warning: shell18.ba.best.com: fastio owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 13:45:00 -0800 (PST) From: Sam Ohzawa X-Sender: fastio@shell18.ba.best.com To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] Byte-serving large files In-Reply-To: <199904012023.OAA23388@everglades.binc.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Aandi Inston writes: >Information is likely to go on to the hard disk as it downloads. >Couple that with read-ahead - Acrobat will quietly carry on >fetching the file. This may fill up a disk. Doesn't Acrobat Reader 4.0 finally stop doing this (as an option), which is how most people want from PDF byte-serving huge files? I.e. if one turns off "Allow background downloading" in the Preferences panel, wouldn't it download just pages that are viewed, and not go on with downloading the whole thing? Clearly, this is a web client issue which Adobe can change. Has anyone tested this option? Sam Ohzawa FastIO Systems - ClibPDF - http://www.fastio.com/ _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 1-Apr-1999 22:28:18-GMT,2514;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id PAA28131 for ; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 15:28:17 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA00466; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 16:20:55 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 1 Apr 1999 16:19:21 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA00354; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 16:19:20 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990401173325.0084de10@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 17:33:25 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: Re[2]: [PDF] Reformatting in WordPerfect In-Reply-To: <2.2.32.19990401192309.009709d8@env-sol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> > >re: > "Reader and Exchange will be pretty well immune to this." > >Nope, not true. I *am* absolutely certain. Lack of fidelity of Helvetica >and Times output from Acrobat Reader & Exchange is how I (painfully) became >aware of this problem in the first place. Believe me, I checked every >possible cause, and I finally was able to get Adobe Tech Support to admit >that this was a real problem for which they had no solutions (other than to >use non-Base 14 fonts). > Tell me more ... ,-) If I'm understanding you correctly, it IS possible to have a PDF that claims to use only Helvetica T1 (according to Document Info, Fonts) and yet prints Arial to PS? If so ... yikes! Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 1-Apr-1999 22:40:59-GMT,2444;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id PAA28444 for ; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 15:40:58 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA01712; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 16:37:19 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 1 Apr 1999 16:35:56 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA01537; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 16:35:55 -0600 Message-Id: <199904012235.PAA22939@indra.com> From: "Michael Thompson" Organization: The Resource Center for Associations To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 15:35:48 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: [PDF] AR4 generates false virus warning In-reply-to: <01BE7B05.66BDCBC0.masonc@anguillanet.com> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01d) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> On 30 Mar 99, at 23:26, Chris Mason wrote about "[PDF] AR4 generates false virus war": > I downloaded AR4 the other day and today I ran the newest release of Dr > Solomon's Antivirus Deluxe software. It reported that the Zip file > contained NetBusPro.dr which is a trojan horse that's very popular for > hacking into windows machines, pretty widespread. However a search of the > usenet revealed that others have found this problem and it has been > determined to be a false report. Just thought I'd let you all know, most > of us probably use AV software. I wonder if this depends on where you got the file. I downloaded the .exe version from the PDFZone web site and McAfee doesn't find anything wrong with it. ******Michael P. Thompson****** ****Director of Communications*** ***thompson@resourcenter.com*** _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 1-Apr-1999 22:42:32-GMT,2727;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id PAA28471 for ; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 15:42:31 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA01902; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 16:39:07 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 1 Apr 1999 16:37:58 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA01768; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 16:37:57 -0600 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Byte-serving large files Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 23:37:48 +0100 Message-ID: <001301be7c90$45309820$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> > >Information is likely to go on to the hard disk as it downloads. > >Couple that with read-ahead - Acrobat will quietly carry on > >fetching the file. This may fill up a disk. > > Doesn't Acrobat Reader 4.0 finally stop doing this (as an option), > which is how most people want from PDF byte-serving huge files? > > I.e. if one turns off "Allow background downloading" in > the Preferences panel, wouldn't it download just pages > that are viewed, and not go on with downloading the whole thing? > > Clearly, this is a web client issue which Adobe can change. Why would I, as a viewer, want to turn this option off? I am very happy to know that, while I am viewing page 1, page 2 is coming down from the web, and may well save me a few seconds when I turn the page? Clearly I, as a web site provider, might have different views if I am charged for bandwidth. But Acrobat's byte serving was designed to help the first group. The second group is at least no worse off than before. Aandi _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 1-Apr-1999 23:06:16-GMT,4149;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id QAA29115 for ; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 16:06:15 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA03331; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 16:55:29 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 1 Apr 1999 16:53:08 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA03119; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 16:53:04 -0600 Message-Id: <199904012252.PAA26290@indra.com> From: "Michael Thompson" Organization: The Resource Center for Associations To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 15:52:53 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: [PDF] Pagemaker 6.5 and Acrobat 4 In-reply-to: <510B6C2A8380D111997200A0C99DBA278C1B04@mars.rauland.com> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01d) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> On 30 Mar 99, at 18:01, Schiff, Kenny wrote about "[PDF] Pagemaker 6.5 and Acrobat 4": > Anyone out there figured out the best working relationship between the two > Adobe programs. Obviously PM6.5 isn't Acrobat 4 aware, but I'm wondering > how to best handle making distilled files for both prepress and on-line. > Should I continue to use the PM Acrobat innards, or just make .ps files > and distill externally? I handle it in one of several ways, depending on where I'm going with it, and I was just going to ask for some guidance here on the best way. I've just done a newsletter that needed to go both ways, prepress and online PDF. I finally had to do two different PageMaker files, since the editor had put in a lot of different colored graphics and it's printed two color. I did the full color version for the online PDF and then converted the graphics to grayscale for the prepress version. I've also working out a fairly decent workflow for the conversion to PDF. Since PageMaker can define Printer Styles, and Distiller cannot, I've developed a printer style for Acrobat, according to Adobe's instructions for high-res PDF generation, including prologue and epilogue, changing the colorspace to CMYK instead of RGB and things like that. So for high-res, I print to file and distill the result, using the recommended settings in Distiller. For the low-res version, I use PageMaker's Export to PDF feature, but I tell it to override Distiller's job options, since they are set for high-res and I don't want to have to reset them every time. This normally produced the PDF in one step, but if I want more control over the process, I can check the option for Output to Postscript for Distilling Separately. I haven't done a detailed analysis, but it looks like it still overrides Distiller's high-res settings, making for the smaller file size I need for online distribution. This is also useful because I can set options for bookmarks that I don't see in Distiller. I don't have full Acrobat. I still need to work the bugs out, especially for imported graphics. Items scanned for high-res don't reproduce well on screen when downsampled and I still get a fairly large file size on the low res version. Maybe I need to do separate graphics from the start, with a high-res grayscale or two-color for one version and a low-res full color for the other. Haven't had 4.0 long enough to see if there are any real differences in the process, and my Distiller is still 3.0 anyway. _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 1-Apr-1999 23:26:36-GMT,2594;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id QAA29670 for ; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 16:26:35 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA05123; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 17:20:59 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 1 Apr 1999 17:19:41 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA05004; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 17:19:40 -0600 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.01 (295) Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 15:27:00 -0800 Subject: Re: [PDF] Pagemaker 6.5 and Acrobat 4 From: "Todd Donahue" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Script: \\filterscript.mml Message-Id: <23193478624548@acquiredknowledge.com> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> ---------- >From: "Schiff, Kenny" >To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" >Subject: [PDF] Pagemaker 6.5 and Acrobat 4 >Date: Tue, Mar 30, 1999, 4:01 PM > > >Anyone out there figured out the best working relationship between the two >Adobe programs. Obviously PM6.5 isn't Acrobat 4 aware, but I'm wondering how >to best handle making distilled files for both prepress and on-line. Should >I continue to use the PM Acrobat innards, or just make .ps files and distill >externally? > Our product, EZ-PDF allows you to create desktop printers that, when printed to create different types of PDF files. You could create both a prepress and an on-line printer and just print to those printers from *any* application. For more info, and a free 30 day version, see the web address in my signature. Todd Donahue Acquired Knowledge Inc. todd@acquiredknowledge.com Creators of EZ-PDF "The easiest way to create PDF files for any use" http://www.acquiredknowledge.com _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 1-Apr-1999 23:39:56-GMT,2747;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id QAA00041 for ; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 16:39:55 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA05893; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 17:30:30 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 1 Apr 1999 17:29:13 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA05775; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 17:29:11 -0600 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19990401232916.00971394@env-sol.com> X-Sender: thiersch@env-sol.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 15:29:16 -0800 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Tom Thiersch Subject: Re: Re[2]: [PDF] Reformatting in WordPerfect Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> At 05:33 PM 4/1/99 -0500, you wrote: > >If I'm understanding you correctly, it IS possible to have a PDF that >claims to use only Helvetica T1 (according to Document Info, Fonts) and yet >prints Arial to PS? > >If so ... yikes! > > >Steve Rindsberg re: ">prints Arial to PS?" Not exactly what I intended to imply. Since Arial is a TT font, it "probably" would not be substituted. This would really depend on the specific PS driver and the version of Windows, I imagine; I have no first-hand experience with a real PS printer in such a situation. However, the printer's "native" Helvetica would most likely be used in preference to that which Acrobat 3 believes it knows about, and that printer font will not *exactly* match the original Helvetica Type 1. The problems just get uglier with non-PS (e.g., PCL) printers, which also have built-in fonts called "Helvetica"! In any event, Acrobat 4 should resolve all of these issues, even with down-level Readers, since the font that can be embedded in the PDF will not be called "Helvetica" but some other name like "xxxx-Helvetica", so no substitutions will be take place and you will, at last, be able to print what you intended in the first place. Tom Thiersch _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 2-Apr-1999 0:24:17-GMT,2371;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id RAA01170 for ; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 17:24:16 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA08949; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 18:15:26 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 1 Apr 1999 18:13:37 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA08797; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 18:13:36 -0600 Message-ID: <37040B3C.D0302ED1@icg-sj.com> Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 16:11:51 -0800 From: Mark Powell Organization: International Consulting Group X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Searching "TCS_no_caller_save" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Wanted to update everybody on the posting I had regarding the problems searching for strings that are made up of monospaced fonts and underscore characters (as in "TCS_no_caller_save"). After very frustrating attempts to figure out the problem, an escalation engineer at Adobe has found out that it is, after all, a bug. In both Search and simple Find, a string such as "TCS_no_caller_save" will not be found if it is a monospaced font. Aargh. The good news is that it *does* get found in Acrobat 4.0, just not in 3.x. _________________________________________________________ Mark Powell International Consulting Group 2021 The Alameda, Suite 220 San Jose, California 95126 408-247-7900 ext. 110 (voice) 408-247-8900 (fax) work: markp@icg-sj.com personal: powell@wordscapes.com _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 2-Apr-1999 5:34:49-GMT,2390;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id WAA07636 for ; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 22:34:48 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA28642; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 23:28:19 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 1 Apr 1999 23:25:36 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA28442; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 23:25:34 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19990402122258.00834ce0@mozart.inet.co.th> X-Sender: cooper@mozart.inet.co.th X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 12:22:58 +0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Doug Cooper Subject: [PDF] volume of posts In-Reply-To: <23193478624548@acquiredknowledge.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Dear PDFers: In the interests of keeping this list from becoming a victim of its own success, may I suggest that posters: -- remember to delete headers and most of the body of included messages; -- check the 'to' address so that your personal mail doesn't go to the whole list; -- avoid 'me too' and 'attaboy' posts to the list; -- when appropriate, add the line: 'Reply to me directly, will post a summary to the list' Thanks ;-), Doug Cooper __________________________________________________ 1425 VP Tower, 21/45 Soi Chawakun Rangnam Road, Rajthevi, Bangkok, 10400 doug@th.net (662) 246-8946 fax (662) 246-8789 Southeast Asian Software Research Center, Bangkok http://seasrc.th.net --> SEASRC Web site http://seasrc.th.net/sealang --> SEALANG Web site _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 2-Apr-1999 7:27:30-GMT,5079;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id AAA10099 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 00:27:28 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA02308; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 01:21:32 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 2 Apr 1999 01:18:06 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA02116; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 01:18:01 -0600 Message-ID: <001f01be7cd8$7f31c1a0$45d0a2c3@customer.chello.be> From: "Philippe Dachsbeck" To: References: <199904011537_MC2-7046-AC40@compuserve.com> Subject: RE: [PDF] Byte-serving large files Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 09:14:45 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=SHA1; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0019_01BE7CE9.40F6E8A0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0019_01BE7CE9.40F6E8A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit We have an internal web site where 32 GB (1,500,000 pages) of scientific documentation in PDF/image is available & hyperlinked; document size varies from 10 MB upto 300 MB. 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Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> I am pleased to announce pdf-prepress-l. Earlier there were several messages on pdf-l indicating that people would prefer a separate mailing list for PDF use in prepress. I suggested that I could help, or perhaps run myself, a list for PDF use in high-end prepress environments. Response was very positive, so I decided to put back on my list manager hat, and set up a new list. The name of the list is pdf-prepress-l and it is located at InfoMania Printing and Prepress, a PostScript prepress house in Sacramento, CA. It is handled on a Sun server system, with the latest version of the free mailing list manager, Majordomo. To subscribe to the list, send e-mail to: In the body of the message, enter the text: subscribe pdf-prepress-l or subscribe pdf-prepress-d The second entry will get you a digested version of the list, which sends out a message once 200 lines of pdf-prepress-l accumulate. The list is setup to keep archives. I will put up a web interface to the archives later, but in the meantime they can be accessed as described in the Majordomo help file, which can be mailed to you by sending e-mail to: In the body of the message, enter the text: help and you will get a file describing all you need to know as a member of pdf-prepress-l and/or pdf-prepress-d. Thank you. I will send this announcement to pdf-l once a week to let newcomers know of this development. -- Tom Mornini -- InfoMania _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 2-Apr-1999 13:06:09-GMT,1936;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id GAA16076 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 06:06:08 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA20528; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 06:59:40 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 2 Apr 1999 06:57:17 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA20365; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 06:57:16 -0600 Message-Id: <199904021312.HAA13718@dsi.data-source.com> X-Sender: jzach@209.172.202.50 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 06:58:30 -0600 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Joe Zacharias Subject: [PDF] PS Fonts and PCL printers Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Simple PDF file is created. All fonts are embedded, the font in question is Adobe PS Font - Utopia. File displays to the screen fine. When printed to a PS printer, everything's fine. When printed to a PCL printer, the fonts are wacked... Fonts, fonts, fonts,....still a royal pain! Anyone had much experience in the same scenario? using PS fonts and printing on PCL printers??? It would seem that Thanks! Joe _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 2-Apr-1999 13:17:26-GMT,2169;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id GAA16277 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 06:17:25 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA21467; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 07:13:56 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 2 Apr 1999 07:12:37 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA21378; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 07:12:36 -0600 Message-ID: From: Myranda Hughes To: "'PDF-L@emrg.com'" Subject: [PDF] screen captures Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 08:09:29 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> We are having a problem with inserting windows screen captures (i.e. dialog boxes, message windows, icons, pull-down menus) into PDFs. We insert the images into the FrameMaker document as a bitmap and JPEG, and when the PDF is created, the images become blurry. When we insert the images as a TIFF, they become blacked out. We have tried converting them to grayscale and it only makes them appear checkered and grainy. We are really stumped and quickly approaching a deadline. Has anyone else experienced these problems or have any suggestions. Thanks for any help you can offer. Myranda Hughes Ontario Systems Corporation Myrandah@ontario.com _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 2-Apr-1999 13:37:01-GMT,2746;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id GAA16670 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 06:37:00 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA22733; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 07:31:47 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 2 Apr 1999 07:30:12 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA22641; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 07:30:11 -0600 From: Karen_L_Mibus@keybank.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: KEYCORP To: PDF-L@emrg.com, myrandah@ontario.com Message-ID: <85256747.0049FE77.00@keybank.com> Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 08:29:53 -0500 Subject: [PDF] Re: screen captures Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Myranda: We've had many discussions about using screen captures in FrameMaker-to-PDF documents on this list, so you may want to search the archives. I've included one solution with this e-mail. What postscript printer driver are you using? You need to use the Adobe Postscript Printer Driver with Postscript set to Portability, not speed. Do not resize your screen captures in FrameMaker as this will cause blurry results. Use PhotoShop or another comparable tool. The solution I used: This was offered to me by chance by my own collegue. (This is a Windows solution, I am not aware of the Mac) Change your display resolution to 640 by 480 pixels, and the color palette to 256 colors before you capture the screen you want. Save as jpeg or tiff by pasting the image into photoshop. Insert it into the Framemaker doc and then distill. This screen shot will now view beautifully in your pdf at higher resolutions. Never seen such good screen shots before. Would encourage you to try this and get back if u come across any glitches. It seems too good and too easy to be true. The only problem is that if the screen is resized, it gets terrible. How does one circumvent that problem? Thanks and hope this solution helps some of you. Anu --------------- _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 2-Apr-1999 13:54:41-GMT,1894;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id GAA16987 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 06:54:40 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA24156; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 07:51:28 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 2 Apr 1999 07:49:29 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA23931; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 07:49:29 -0600 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.01 (295) Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 07:50:19 -0600 Subject: [PDF] White objects in PDF From: "Jeff Morrison" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <7726EED5414.AAA74B0@mail.lasertechcolor.com> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> I'm extracting information from my Quark page to another Quark page, then making a PDF of that page. When I get the PDF, it contain white objects, ie: boxes, text, etc. which causes problems when I composite the two back together. Any suggestion for getting rid of these objects? _______________________ Jeff Morrison Laser Tech Color Retail _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 2-Apr-1999 13:59:37-GMT,2901;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id GAA17099 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 06:59:36 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA24527; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 07:56:40 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 2 Apr 1999 07:55:26 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA24434; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 07:55:25 -0600 Message-ID: <3704E83D.BFC59E69@earthlink.net> Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 07:54:37 -0800 From: Scottie X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en]C-DIAL (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] screen captures References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> I've done several hundred screen shots. I do the screen capture then immediately paste it into Photoshop then save as a tiff file. Works well. Try Photoshop. Scottie Myranda Hughes wrote: > > <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> > <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> > > We are having a problem with inserting windows screen captures (i.e. dialog > boxes, message windows, icons, pull-down menus) into PDFs. We insert the > images into the FrameMaker document as a bitmap and JPEG, and when the PDF > is created, the images become blurry. When we insert the images as a TIFF, > they become blacked out. We have tried converting them to grayscale and it > only makes them appear checkered and grainy. We are really stumped and > quickly approaching a deadline. Has anyone else experienced these problems > or have any suggestions. > > Thanks for any help you can offer. > Myranda Hughes > Ontario Systems Corporation > Myrandah@ontario.com > > _____________________________________________________________ > > * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * > Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM > < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 2-Apr-1999 17:51:50-GMT,3443;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id KAA22834 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 10:51:48 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA10390; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 11:45:20 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 2 Apr 1999 11:41:28 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA10006; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 11:41:27 -0600 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 10:43:04 +0000 Subject: Re: [PDF] screen captures From: "Dennis Walker" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <1289072711-5805114@mail.inpractice.net> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> >>Myranda Hughes wrote: >> >> <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> >> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> >> >> We are having a problem with inserting windows screen captures (i.e. dialog >> boxes, message windows, icons, pull-down menus) into PDFs. We insert the >> images into the FrameMaker document as a bitmap and JPEG, and when the PDF >> is created, the images become blurry. When we insert the images as a TIFF, >> they become blacked out. We have tried converting them to grayscale and it >> only makes them appear checkered and grainy. We are really stumped and >> quickly approaching a deadline. Has anyone else experienced these problems >> or have any suggestions. > I've done several hundred screen shots. I do the screen capture then > immediately paste it into Photoshop then save as a tiff file. Works > well. Try Photoshop. > > Scottie I just went through a round of creating screen shots on Wintel for use in a Quark/Mac layout. I found that I got the best images using SnagIt 4.3 on the PC, creating 24 bit JPEG at 100% quality. I probably would have used GIFs, except that I wanted the 24 bit color. Then with a folder full of JPEGs, I used Photoshop 5.0.2/Mac, it's batch processing capability and a custom Action to open and resave both a CMYK and GS version as TIFFs. These appeared fine in the resulting PDF files. I've only seen images "go to black" in PDFs when the images are Photoshop 5 Duotone EPSs; I don't know why this happens. Maybe the blurriness of your bitmaps is due to the general preference setting to "Smooth text and monochrome images" in Exchange or Reader, or maybe the low resolution screen images are being blown up too large in your layout. Dennis Walker Chiropractic Elite Organization dennisw@chiroelite.com 435-647-5937 ph 435-647-5927 fax http://www.chiroelite.com _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 2-Apr-1999 18:19:35-GMT,4436;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id LAA23646 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 11:19:34 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA12828; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 12:15:06 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 2 Apr 1999 12:12:46 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA12629; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 12:12:44 -0600 Message-Id: <199904021812.KAA12471@stonewall.george.com> X-Sender: pcopelan@stonewall.george.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.1 Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 10:12:37 -0800 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Patti Copeland Subject: [PDF] Intranet viewed PDF not displaying all colors Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; types="text/plain,text/html"; boundary="=====================_12252828==_.ALT" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> --=====================_12252828==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi everyone, Any assistance with the following would be appreciated. THE HISTORY (composite) PDF made from 2-color PageMaker6.5, Postscripted to AGFA-SelectSet 7000 v52.3 for print and font integrity. Distilled for Intranet viewing Acrobat 3.0 compatable downsampled at 300dpi (for viewing ang laser printing) Binary, not ASCII Embed all fonts, no subsets Distill with Prologue.ps / Epilogue.ps convert CMYK to RGB Remove Remove Color Conversion Unchanged THE PROBLEM: This document, when opened in Netscapes browser on the company Intranet, is not rendering both colors. The headings and bullets are in red ( this is viewing) The rest of the text is blue and it is NOT viewing. When the screen colors settings are changed, it does not make any more than a subtle viewing difference such as a "shadow" of the text that is not showing or that text being a light green shade Served from IIS (Byte serving) QUESTIONS: 1. Does BYTE serving make a difference? 2. Should I be doing something different with my settings in Distiller such as setting Color Conversion to Independent instead of Unchanged Thanks, Patti Patti Copeland Digital Imaging Technician George Lithograph, PAA ( 415) 241-3056 --=====================_12252828==_.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Hi everyone, Any assistance with the following would be appreciated.

THE HISTORY
(composite) PDF made from 2-color PageMaker6.5, Postscripted to AGFA-SelectSet 7000 v52.3 for print and font integrity.

Distilled for Intranet viewing
Acrobat 3.0 compatable
downsampled at 300dpi (for viewing ang laser printing)
Binary, not ASCII
Embed all fonts, no subsets
Distill with Prologue.ps / Epilogue.ps
convert CMYK to RGB
Remove
Remove
Color Conversion Unchanged

THE PROBLEM:
This document, when opened in Netscapes browser on the company Intranet, is not rendering both colors.
The headings and bullets are in red ( this is viewing) The rest of the text is blue and it is NOT viewing. When the screen colors settings are changed, it does not make any more than a subtle viewing difference
such as a "shadow" of the text that is not showing or that text being a light green shade

Served from IIS (Byte serving)

QUESTIONS:
1. Does BYTE serving make a difference?
2. Should I be doing something different with my settings in Distiller such as
setting Color Conversion to Independent instead of Unchanged

Thanks,
Patti

Patti Copeland
Digital Imaging Technician
George Lithograph, PAA
( 415) 241-3056
 --=====================_12252828==_.ALT-- _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 2-Apr-1999 19:10:53-GMT,2368;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id MAA25163 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 12:10:52 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA16532; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 13:04:32 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 2 Apr 1999 13:02:35 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA16365; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 13:02:34 -0600 Message-Id: <199904021902.NAA16360@everglades.binc.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.01 (295) Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 10:58:04 -0800 Subject: Re: [PDF] Intranet viewed PDF not displaying all colors From: "Todd Donahue" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Return-Path: todd@acquiredknowledge.com Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> >---------- >From: Patti Copeland >To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com >Subject: [PDF] Intranet viewed PDF not displaying all colors >Date: Fri, Apr 2, 1999, 10:12 AM > > >Hi everyone, Any assistance with the following would be appreciated. > >THE HISTORY >(composite) PDF made from 2-color PageMaker6.5, Postscripted to >AGFA-SelectSet 7000 v52.3 for print and font integrity. > You should create the PS files that are to be distilled using the Acrobat Distiller PPD. Using the Agfa PPD will not maintain the colors. Todd Donahue Acquired Knowledge Inc. todd@acquiredknowledge.com Creators of EZ-PDF "The easiest way to create PDF files for any use" http://www.acquiredknowledge.com _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 2-Apr-1999 19:23:46-GMT,2364;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id MAA25507 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 12:23:45 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA17686; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 13:19:18 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 2 Apr 1999 13:17:57 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA17522; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 13:17:56 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990402143210.00929560@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 14:32:10 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: Re[2]: [PDF] Reformatting in WordPerfect In-Reply-To: <2.2.32.19990401232916.00971394@env-sol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> > >However, the printer's "native" Helvetica would most likely be used in >preference to that which Acrobat 3 believes it knows about, and that printer >font will not *exactly* match the original Helvetica Type 1. > Yes, this makes sense. So long as the PPD says that Helvetica's resident in the printer and the app, whatever app, pays heed to that, it shouldn't download Helvetica of any sort to the printer. It'd be interesting to see what happened if Reader, say, were targeted at a printer whose PPD's been edited to remove Helvetica as a resident font. Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 2-Apr-1999 19:52:49-GMT,5368;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id MAA26154 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 12:52:47 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA19658; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 13:47:03 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 2 Apr 1999 13:45:40 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA19477; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 13:45:39 -0600 Message-Id: <199904021945.LAA15823@stonewall.george.com> X-Sender: pcopelan@stonewall.george.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.1 Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 11:45:34 -0800 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Patti Copeland Subject: Re: [PDF] Intranet viewed PDF not displaying all colors In-Reply-To: <199904021902.NAA16360@everglades.binc.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; types="text/plain,text/html"; boundary="=====================_17830689==_.ALT" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> --=====================_17830689==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Todd..Thank you, Is this across-the-board, because other similarly prepared publications have had no problem. But for this, What would you (anyone) suggest as the ppd. I have True Type fonts which are problematic (Wingdings and BASigs) and the Agfa (for both Printer and PPD) retained their integrity. I have been using the Distiller3.0 for most everything else we do that prints because it handles most fonts (TrueType) better. Patti >>Hi everyone, Any assistance with the following would be appreciated. >> >>THE HISTORY >>(composite) PDF made from 2-color PageMaker6.5, Postscripted to >>AGFA-SelectSet 7000 v52.3 for print and font integrity. >> > >You should create the PS files that are to be distilled using the Acrobat >Distiller PPD. Using the Agfa PPD will not maintain the colors. > > >Todd Donahue >Acquired Knowledge Inc. >todd@acquiredknowledge.com Patti Copeland Digital Imaging Technician George Lithograph, PAA BofA On-Site at Corporate Publications #13258 BAnet [or 415] 241-3056 Patti Copeland@bankamerica.com George Lithograph [415] 715-2400 pcopelan@george.com --=====================_17830689==_.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii"
Todd..Thank you,
Is this across-the-board, because other similarly prepared publications have had no problem.

But for this, What would you (anyone)  suggest as the ppd. I have True Type fonts which are problematic (Wingdings and BASigs) and the Agfa (for both Printer and PPD) retained their integrity.

I have been using the Distiller3.0 for most everything else we do that prints because it handles most fonts (TrueType) better.

Patti

>>Hi everyone, Any assistance with the following would be appreciated.
>>
>>THE HISTORY
>>(composite) PDF made from 2-color PageMaker6.5, Postscripted to
>>AGFA-SelectSet 7000 v52.3 for print and font integrity.
>>
>
>You should create the PS files that are to be distilled using the Acrobat
>Distiller PPD. Using the Agfa PPD will not maintain the colors.
>
>
>Todd Donahue
>Acquired Knowledge Inc.
>todd@acquiredknowledge.com

                                           
Patti Copeland
Digital Imaging Technician
George Lithograph, PAA
BofA On-Site at
Corporate Publications #13258
BAnet [or 415] 241-3056
Patti Copeland@bankamerica.com                                                        
George Lithograph [415] 715-2400
pcopelan@george.com --=====================_17830689==_.ALT-- _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 2-Apr-1999 20:38:38-GMT,2076;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id NAA27291 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 13:38:37 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA23252; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 14:32:57 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 2 Apr 1999 14:31:40 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA23103; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 14:31:39 -0600 From: "Scott Hamlow" To: "pdfzone" , "acrobat@blueworld. com" Subject: [PDF] Reader 4 Final Release! Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 12:32:08 -0800 Message-ID: <000001be7d47$e17a6f00$45a2fecc@scotth.fourgen.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2232.26 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> It looks like Adobe just released the final version of Reader 4.0 for Mac and Windows, English. If you go to the main Reader web page (http://www.adobe.com/prodindex/acrobat/readstep.html), select Mac or Windows and it displays you will be getting 4.0. Their ftp site shows update times of 8:00pm 04.01.99, with a new sub-directory called Betas. _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 2-Apr-1999 20:38:40-GMT,6900;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id NAA27295 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 13:38:38 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA23031; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 14:30:56 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 2 Apr 1999 14:29:10 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA22898; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 14:29:07 -0600 Message-Id: <199904022028.MAA17336@stonewall.george.com> X-Sender: pcopelan@stonewall.george.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.1 Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 12:28:47 -0800 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Patti Copeland Subject: Re: [PDF] Intranet viewed PDF not displaying all colors In-Reply-To: <199904021945.LAA15823@stonewall.george.com> References: <199904021902.NAA16360@everglades.binc.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; types="text/plain,text/html"; boundary="=====================_20422435==_.ALT" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> --=====================_20422435==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" This is truly getting more interesting. further testing shows Opening the document in IE (Internet Explorer) and the publication views correctly....colors as they belong. our site is using Netscape 4.0 something and we have found this viewing problem is not consistant. We have been able to reload the file/page and have it appear fine, and we have tried to look at pages another time and have continualy had missing color text each time we reloaded. Is this a Netscape problem? I will Postscript the files to The AGFA-SelectSet 7000 v52.3 Printer and Acrobat Distiller 2017.801 PPD. This appears to give me correct font integrity. Patti At 11:45 AM 4/2/99 , you wrote: > > Todd..Thank you, > Is this across-the-board, because other similarly prepared publications have > had no problem. > > But for this, What would you (anyone) suggest as the ppd (here, I meant > printer). I have True Type fonts which are problematic (Wingdings and BASigs) > and the Agfa (for both Printer and PPD) retained their integrity. > > I have been using the Distiller3.0 for most everything else we do that prints > because it handles most fonts (TrueType) better. > > Patti > > >>Hi everyone, Any assistance with the following would be appreciated. > >> > >>THE HISTORY > >>(composite) PDF made from 2-color PageMaker6.5, Postscripted to > >>AGFA-SelectSet 7000 v52.3 for print and font integrity. > >> > > > >You should create the PS files that are to be distilled using the Acrobat > >Distiller PPD. Using the Agfa PPD will not maintain the colors. > > > > > >Todd Donahue > >Acquired Knowledge Inc. > >todd@acquiredknowledge.com > > > Patti Copeland > Digital Imaging Technician > George Lithograph, PAA > BofA On-Site at > Corporate Publications #13258 > BAnet [or 415] 241-3056 > Patti > Copeland@bankamerica.com > > George Lithograph [415] 715-2400 > pcopelan@george.com --=====================_20422435==_.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" This is truly getting more interesting.
further testing shows
Opening the document in IE (Internet Explorer) and the publication views correctly....colors as they belong.
our site is using Netscape 4.0 something and we have found this viewing problem is not consistant. We have been able to reload the file/page and have it appear fine, and we have tried to look at pages another time and have continualy had missing color text each time we reloaded.
Is this a Netscape problem?

I will Postscript the files to The AGFA-SelectSet 7000 v52.3 Printer and Acrobat Distiller 2017.801 PPD. This appears to give me correct font integrity.

Patti

At 11:45 AM 4/2/99 , you wrote:
Todd..Thank you,
Is this across-the-board, because other similarly prepared publications have had no problem.

But for this, What would you (anyone)  suggest as the ppd (here, I meant printer). I have True Type fonts which are problematic (Wingdings and BASigs) and the Agfa (for both Printer and PPD) retained their integrity.

I have been using the Distiller3.0 for most everything else we do that prints because it handles most fonts (TrueType) better.

Patti

>>Hi everyone, Any assistance with the following would be appreciated.
>>
>>THE HISTORY
>>(composite) PDF made from 2-color PageMaker6.5, Postscripted to
>>AGFA-SelectSet 7000 v52.3 for print and font integrity.
>>
>
>You should create the PS files that are to be distilled using the Acrobat
>Distiller PPD. Using the Agfa PPD will not maintain the colors.
>
>
>Todd Donahue
>Acquired Knowledge Inc.
>todd@acquiredknowledge.com

                                           
Patti Copeland
Digital Imaging Technician
George Lithograph, PAA
BofA On-Site at
Corporate Publications #13258
BAnet [or 415] 241-3056
Patti Copeland@bankamerica.com                                                        
George Lithograph [415] 715-2400
pcopelan@george.com

--=====================_20422435==_.ALT-- _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 2-Apr-1999 20:38:42-GMT,2508;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id NAA27301 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 13:38:41 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA23426; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 14:34:36 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 2 Apr 1999 14:33:29 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA23315; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 14:33:27 -0600 Message-Id: <199904022033.OAA23309@everglades.binc.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.01 (295) Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 12:20:39 -0800 Subject: Re: [PDF] Intranet viewed PDF not displaying all colors From: "Todd Donahue" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Return-Path: todd@acquiredknowledge.com Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> >---------- >From: Patti Copeland >To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com >Subject: Re: [PDF] Intranet viewed PDF not displaying all colors >Date: Fri, Apr 2, 1999, 11:45 AM > > >Todd..Thank you, >Is this across-the-board, because other similarly prepared publications >have had no problem. > >But for this, What would you (anyone) suggest as the ppd. I have True Type >fonts which are problematic (Wingdings and BASigs) and the Agfa (for both >Printer and PPD) retained their integrity. I would still suggest the Distiller PPD. Make sure you check how the driver is setup to handle TrueType fonts. You should have Send TrueType fonts as... Type 42 fonts. Todd Donahue Acquired Knowledge Inc. todd@acquiredknowledge.com Creators of EZ-PDF "The easiest way to create PDF files for any use" http://www.acquiredknowledge.com _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 2-Apr-1999 23:04:12-GMT,2698;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id QAA01006 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 16:04:11 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA01953; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 16:58:51 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 2 Apr 1999 16:57:39 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA01792; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 16:57:37 -0600 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 17:57:19 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: "John L. Jones" Subject: RE: [PDF] Reformatting in WordPerfect Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> There are several PCL to PDF products. One is from Sysprint (www. sysprint.com). This appears to be a big, commercial grade application that runs batches. Another is PCL2PDF by Visual Software (www.visual.co.uk/pcl2pdf.html). The later's about $350. John L. Jones >Pam Richmond said: > Thanks to all for your input. This is obviously a tough issue. The best > solution is to prepare with this in mind, but we have thousands of pages > (with > graphics) that we need to PDF that weren't prepared this way because they > are > also being printed. PDF was an afterthought. I want to limit reflow as > much as > possible, and I wanted to look into possible solutions before I just > assumed > that nothing could be done. > >In case these were originally formatted for use on PCL printers, you may > want to check the list archives--there's a product (which I always forget > what it is since I know I can just check the list archives...) that gets > discussed now and again that will render PCL files into PDF. I don't know > how well it works, but it may be an answer for these older items. You could > just change the properties on the printer to print to a file instead of a > port, and nothing else should change and cause reflow. > > Joel Kinstle _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 3-Apr-1999 0:15:24-GMT,4046;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id RAA02876 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 17:15:23 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA06715; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 17:59:30 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 2 Apr 1999 17:57:26 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA06512; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 17:57:25 -0600 X-Authentication-Warning: shell18.ba.best.com: fastio owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 15:57:23 -0800 (PST) From: Sam Ohzawa X-Sender: fastio@shell18.ba.best.com To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] Byte-serving large files Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> >> >Information is likely to go on to the hard disk as it downloads. >> >Couple that with read-ahead - Acrobat will quietly carry on >> >fetching the file. This may fill up a disk. >> >> Doesn't Acrobat Reader 4.0 finally stop doing this (as an option), >> which is how most people want from PDF byte-serving huge files? >> >> I.e. if one turns off "Allow background downloading" in >> the Preferences panel, wouldn't it download just pages >> that are viewed, and not go on with downloading the whole thing? >> >> Clearly, this is a web client issue which Adobe can change. >Why would I, as a viewer, want to turn this option off? I am very >happy to know that, while I am viewing page 1, page 2 is coming >down from the web, and may well save me a few seconds when I >turn the page? As a viewer, in some cases I can imagine, YES, I want to turn off this option. The key is the word "OPTION." For example, I may be a service personell on the road, trying to look up a 2000-page, 200MB service manual at the HQ from a laptop. I may just need to look at 3 key pages containing the module I am working with. And, in this case, NO, I don't want the download to go on, clogging my Richchet wireless modem connection. At my office, I may want to enable backgound download, because I have BW to burn. Then again, I may not, because the net is so fast anyway here that any new page will pop up in 0.1 sec without caching. >Clearly I, as a web site provider, might have different views if >I am charged for bandwidth. >But Acrobat's byte serving was designed to help the first group. >The second group is at least no worse off than before. Aandi, I am not sure if it's really helping the first group. With all due respect, I don't care what the original design goal of byte-serving WAS. The fact is that byte-serving web server serves a requested byte-range out of the whole file. If the client stops requesting further download, the server won't. By now, it shouldn't matter what the orginal intent was, as long as it is useful for things people want to do with it. So, what about the "Allow background downloading" option? What does it do? Does it stop downloading pages that are not requested when it's off? If indeed Adobe has implemented this often-requested feature finally, why are you defending the old way as if it's the Constitution (or so it seems :-)? Give us choice! And thank you Adobe if you have given me the choice in byte serving. Sam _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 2-Apr-1999 23:03:04-GMT,3834;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id QAA00983 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 16:02:58 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA01206; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 16:51:59 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 2 Apr 1999 16:49:40 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA00997; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 16:49:36 -0600 From: alfredc@softworkscc.com Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 17:56:54 -0500 To: pdf-digest@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] reformatting in any wordproces MIME-version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Mailer: TFS Gateway /222000000/223041237/223003969/223100773/ Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id QAA00992 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Hi, Don't want to get into the reflow argument. What's worked for me pretty well (95% or greater success rate) when I need to convert straight text in a Word file to a PDF and make the two match is to take PDFWriter's pdfwrite.dot template and change the page margins to match our internal template's page margins. PDFWriter uses the page margins religiously to render its PDF of the Word file. In Word 97 if you're using PDFMaker and PDFWriter rather than Distiller, PDFMaker has a template called PDFMaker.dot, located in C:\Program Files\Microsoft Office\Office\STARTUP, assuming you installed using the defaults, that can be similarly edited. We work with a lot of documentation that's text-only, so matching the PDF to our Word files is important. Our overseas offices use the PDF as the print master for our documentation, and having a reflow by giving them Word files would create havoc. Word 97 lets you edit and save changes to PDFMaker.dot on the fly without shutting down Word. Word 95 requires saving the file with a different name and selecting it instead of pdfwriter.dot in the Templates section. There are a couple of copies of both of these files on your PC. The one you need to change is in Word's startup folder. The other copy is kept in Acrobat's folder; leave it alone. I don't have any help to offer on getting Distiller to preserve pagination for, say, a Word file. Happens to me all the time. I usually have to tweak the Word file to make it fit on the number of pages I need it to be on when printing using Distiller, and a little trial and error usually fixes things. Yes, I know Distiller is far better than PDFWriter, but if you're working with mostly text, PDFWriter will suffice. If you've got more specific questions, please e-mail me off-list. Alfred P.S. I assume for WordPerfect that a similar template exists that can be edited for printing without changing pagination. I should say that Adobe's recommendation is to set Distiller as the default printer, print through it, and that way you're always working from the same printer layout engine...if I'm not suffering Friday evening amnesia. _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 3-Apr-1999 15:25:44-GMT,2298;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id IAA18683 for ; Sat, 3 Apr 1999 08:25:43 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA25786; Sat, 3 Apr 1999 09:14:46 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 3 Apr 1999 09:09:55 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA25386; Sat, 3 Apr 1999 09:09:52 -0600 Message-ID: <001701be7de4$50f806c0$26e62ac2@oemcomputer> From: "Noel Vaillant" To: "pdflist" Subject: [PDF] Latex > dvips > Distiller 3.02 > Reader 4.0 (windows 98) Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 16:11:27 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> I thought the process: Latex > dvips > Distiller 3.02 > Reader 4.0 was pretty robust. (had very good result so far). Yet, for the first time, I am getting: "Unable to extract the embedded font 'CMR12'. Some characters may not display or print correctly" appearing with Reader 4.0. Note that when using Exchange 3.01, I get no error message. Also, when moving a copy of 'cmr12.pfb' to \font directory of Reader 4.0, the pdf file is displayed normally, but I still get this annoying message? Can anyone help? Regards. Noel. __________________________ Name: Dr Noel Vaillant Location: London UK Email: vaillant@netcomuk.co.uk _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 3-Apr-1999 17:04:15-GMT,3942;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id KAA20378 for ; Sat, 3 Apr 1999 10:04:13 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA31090; Sat, 3 Apr 1999 10:46:49 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 3 Apr 1999 10:43:27 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA30905; Sat, 3 Apr 1999 10:43:25 -0600 Message-Id: <199904031643.LAA01136@uakron.edu> From: "D. P. Story" Organization: The University of Akron To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 11:40:32 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/enriched; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: [PDF] Latex > dvips > Distiller 3.02 > Reader 4.0 (windows 98) In-reply-to: <001701be7de4$50f806c0$26e62ac2@oemcomputer> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01b) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> AGaramondOn 3 Apr 99, at 16:11, Noel Vaillant wrote: 7F00,0000,0000Arial> > <<- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <<- > ...via PDFzone.COM at < -> > > I thought the process: > > Latex > dvips > Distiller 3.02 > Reader 4.0 > > was pretty robust. (had very good result so far). Yet, for the first time, > I am getting: > > "Unable to extract the embedded font 'CMR12'. Some characters may not > display or print correctly" > > appearing with Reader 4.0. Note that when using Exchange 3.01, I get no > error message. Also, when moving a copy of 'cmr12.pfb' to \font directory > of Reader 4.0, the pdf file is displayed normally, but I still get this > annoying message? AGaramondYou shouldn't have be be moving fonts around. In the font locations menu of distiller, you should have Courierc:\acrobat3\distiller\fonts c:\psfonts c:\texmf\fonts\type1AGaramond This last line assumes you are using MikTeX, which I believe you are. Also, what switches on dvips do you use. I've been successful with dvips -M fiename or, try the -j0 switch. Hepe things work out. dps Arial> 7F00,0000,0000> Can anyone help? > > Regards. Noel. > > __________________________ > Name: Dr Noel Vaillant > Location: London UK > Email: vaillant@netcomuk.co.uk > > > _____________________________________________________________ > > * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * > Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM > << http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > > > Dr. D. P. Story dpstory@uakron.edu http://www.math.uakron.edu/~dpstory/ Dept of Mathematics and Computer Science / University of Akron / Akron, Ohio 44325 AcroTeX Web Site: http://www.math.uakron.edu/~dpstory/acrotex.html Site Includes: e-Calculus, Algebra Review in Ten Lessons, Mathematics Games, Pdfmarks:Links & Forms, Using LaTeX to Create Quality PDF Documents for the WWW, and much, much more. _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 3-Apr-1999 17:40:42-GMT,3269;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id KAA20998 for ; Sat, 3 Apr 1999 10:40:41 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA01138; Sat, 3 Apr 1999 11:35:03 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 3 Apr 1999 11:32:55 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA00999; Sat, 3 Apr 1999 11:32:54 -0600 Message-ID: <001b01be7df8$4ff88100$0ae62ac2@oemcomputer> From: "Noel Vaillant" To: References: <199904031643.LAA01136@uakron.edu> Subject: Re: [PDF] Latex > dvips > Distiller 3.02 > Reader 4.0 (windows 98) Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 18:34:24 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0018_01BE7E00.99483AA0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0018_01BE7E00.99483AA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable dvips -j0 filename did it ! Somehow, I knew you'd sort that one out. Thanx a lot. Regards. Noel. Also, what switches on dvips do you use. I've been successful with dvips -M fiename or, try the -j0 switch. Hepe things work out. dps ------=_NextPart_000_0018_01BE7E00.99483AA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
dvips -j0 filename did it ! Somehow, I knew you'd sort that one = out.
Thanx a lot. Regards. Noel.
 
 
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------=_NextPart_000_0018_01BE7E00.99483AA0-- _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 3-Apr-1999 18:47:26-GMT,1799;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id LAA22134 for ; Sat, 3 Apr 1999 11:47:24 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA05587; Sat, 3 Apr 1999 12:41:07 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 3 Apr 1999 12:38:02 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA05405; Sat, 3 Apr 1999 12:38:00 -0600 Message-ID: <37066061.63BA1AF8@pdfzone.com> Date: Sat, 03 Apr 1999 12:39:30 -0600 From: Kurt Foss Organization: PDFzone.COM X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: PDF@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Acrobat Reader 4.0 Final for Mac & Win (ENG) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> PDFzone.COM has removed the pre-release versions of Adobe Acrobat Reader 4.0 and replaced them with the FINAL release versions -- currently available for the Macintosh and Windows platforms, English language only. rgds ~ Kurt PDFzone.COM _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 3-Apr-1999 18:48:07-GMT,1814;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id LAA22146 for ; Sat, 3 Apr 1999 11:48:06 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA06656; Sat, 3 Apr 1999 12:48:02 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 3 Apr 1999 12:42:54 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA05779; Sat, 3 Apr 1999 12:42:52 -0600 Message-ID: <37066184.E5CE84E9@pdfzone.com> Date: Sat, 03 Apr 1999 12:44:22 -0600 From: Kurt Foss Organization: PDFzone.COM X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: PDFdev@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDFdev] Acrobat Reader 4.0 Final for Mac & Win (ENG) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdfdev@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdfdev@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVES: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> PDFzone.COM has removed the pre-release versions of Adobe Acrobat Reader 4.0 and replaced them with the FINAL release versions -- currently available for the Macintosh and Windows platforms, English language only. rgds ~ Kurt PDFzone.COM _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 3-Apr-1999 20:36:23-GMT,1824;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id NAA24166 for ; Sat, 3 Apr 1999 13:36:21 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA12911; Sat, 3 Apr 1999 14:28:05 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 3 Apr 1999 14:25:41 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA12741; Sat, 3 Apr 1999 14:25:40 -0600 Message-ID: <69AAB7AD55D6D21185210060976CDC0A0C34ED@pl-exchange-2.pl.unisys.com> From: "Dembek, Raymond F" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Reader 4.0 with Search ??? Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 14:25:29 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> I see that the Acrobat 4.0 Readers without search are available. When will we see the Readers with search? > Raymond F. Dembek > Unisys Corp. - Michigan > Ray.Dembek@Unisys.com > Unisys Office: 734-737-4975 (N262-Plymouth) > Home Office: 248-661-9302 > > "We eat, sleep and drink this stuff." > _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 3-Apr-1999 21:03:00-GMT,1966;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id OAA24578 for ; Sat, 3 Apr 1999 14:02:59 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA15109; Sat, 3 Apr 1999 15:00:04 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 3 Apr 1999 14:58:50 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA14939; Sat, 3 Apr 1999 14:58:49 -0600 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Reader 4.0 with Search ??? Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 21:58:40 +0100 Message-ID: <000601be7e14$c12ab5c0$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <69AAB7AD55D6D21185210060976CDC0A0C34ED@pl-exchange-2.pl.unisys.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> > I see that the Acrobat 4.0 Readers without search are > available. When will > we see the Readers with search? The situation is not completely clear, but I believe that Reader + Search will only be available on CDROM. Aandi _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 3-Apr-1999 21:14:06-GMT,1918;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id OAA24786 for ; Sat, 3 Apr 1999 14:14:05 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA15775; Sat, 3 Apr 1999 15:10:29 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 3 Apr 1999 15:09:17 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA15691; Sat, 3 Apr 1999 15:09:16 -0600 Message-ID: <370683D4.CF075475@pdfzone.com> Date: Sat, 03 Apr 1999 15:10:45 -0600 From: Kurt Foss Organization: PDFzone.COM X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Reader 4.0 with Search ??? References: <69AAB7AD55D6D21185210060976CDC0A0C34ED@pl-exchange-2.pl.unisys.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> > I see that the Acrobat 4.0 Readers without search are available. When will > we see the Readers with search? According to Adobe's web site, folks who order/pay $15 will see "Readerwith Search" on a CD-ROM -- no other way (apparently), pending a revised announcement of some sort. ~ Kurt _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 3-Apr-1999 23:34:35-GMT,2751;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id QAA27417 for ; Sat, 3 Apr 1999 16:34:33 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA23947; Sat, 3 Apr 1999 17:28:58 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 3 Apr 1999 17:27:06 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA23789; Sat, 3 Apr 1999 17:27:03 -0600 Message-ID: <69AAB7AD55D6D21185210060976CDC0A0C34EF@pl-exchange-2.pl.unisys.com> From: "Dembek, Raymond F" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Cc: "'Kurt Foss'" , "'Aandi Inston'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Reader 4.0 with Search ??? Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 17:26:49 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> http://www.adobe.com/prodindex/acrobat/cdrom40.html mentions that reader with search will be available on the Reader CD-ROM but on the Reader download page (http://www.adobe.com/prodindex/acrobat/readstep.html) I took the words "Include option for searching PDF files (currently available only for 3.x versions; longer download)" to mean that (soon) the "with search" versions would be available from the Adobe web site. Raymond F. Dembek Unisys Corp. - Michigan Ray.Dembek@Unisys.com Unisys Office: 734-737-4975 (N262-Plymouth) Home Office: 248-661-9302 "We eat, sleep and drink this stuff." -----Original Message----- From: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com [mailto:owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com]On Behalf Of Kurt Foss Sent: Saturday, April 03, 1999 4:11 PM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Reader 4.0 with Search ??? > I see that the Acrobat 4.0 Readers without search are available. When will > we see the Readers with search? According to Adobe's web site, folks who order/pay $15 will see "Readerwith Search" on a CD-ROM -- no other way (apparently), pending a revised announcement of some sort. ~ Kurt _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 4-Apr-1999 1:29:26-GMT,2445;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id SAA29421 for ; Sat, 3 Apr 1999 18:29:24 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA31325; Sat, 3 Apr 1999 19:23:41 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 3 Apr 1999 19:22:01 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA31152; Sat, 3 Apr 1999 19:22:00 -0600 X-Sender: prodok@pop.eunet.ch Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <69AAB7AD55D6D21185210060976CDC0A0C34ED@pl-exchange-2.pl.unisys.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 4 Apr 1999 03:18:37 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Max Wyss Subject: Re: [PDF] Reader 4.0 with Search ??? Cc: "Dembek, Raymond F" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Raymond, from what I have seen so far, Reader 4 will be available for download only without the Search plug-ins. There will be a CD on which the Search plug-in will be included. However, as I understand the situation (I may be wrong; it would not be the first time), it is possible to distribute the Search plug-in on CD-ROMs. As a first test, you can try to use the Reader 3 Search plug-in with Reader 4; maybe it works. Hope, this can help. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch WWW: http://www.prodok.ch/prodok Bridging the Knowledge Gap ______________________ >I see that the Acrobat 4.0 Readers without search are available. When will >we see the Readers with search? > > >> Raymond F. Dembek _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 4-Apr-1999 4:33:00-GMT,2952;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id VAA02647 for ; Sat, 3 Apr 1999 21:32:59 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA09171; Sat, 3 Apr 1999 22:28:26 -0600 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 3 Apr 1999 22:26:34 -0600 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA08971; Sat, 3 Apr 1999 22:26:33 -0600 Message-ID: <76F37B2B6013D21184E400A02461E5AF014C9941@msexchg1.wcnoc.com> From: Decker Gary E To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Reader 4.0 with Search ??? Date: Sat, 3 Apr 1999 22:26:22 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> I'm hoping for a revised announcement. A few weeks ago, I made a presentation to another division in my company, showing how one of our major documents could be converted from another system to Adobe Acrobat. They agreed, and are in the process of soliciting bids for the conversion. One of the biggest selling points was the ability to search across documents (this document would consist of several individual files). As luck would have it, we've already ordered our copy of Acrobat 4.0. I'm not looking forward to telling my management that we can't use the software we bought (or that we'll have to maintain backward compatibility with the 3.0 Reader...in which case, why buy 4.0?). That, or to use it, we'll have to update 1000 or so workstations at $15 a pop with the new Reader+Search. If anyone is privy to the licensing agreement for the new Reader+Search, I'd be interested to know if it is/will be legal to just buy one copy of the CD and install it on multiple workstations, or if the $15 is for one license. Gary Decker, IS Analyst Wolf Creek Nuclear Operating Corporation, Burlington KS USA > ---------- > From: Kurt Foss[SMTP:kfoss@pdfzone.com] > Sent: Saturday, April 03, 1999 3:10 PM > Subject: Re: [PDF] Reader 4.0 with Search ??? > > According to Adobe's web site, folks who order/pay $15 will > see "Readerwith Search" on a CD-ROM -- no other way > (apparently), pending a revised announcement of some sort. > _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 4-Apr-1999 12:27:10-GMT,2312;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id FAA09694 for ; Sun, 4 Apr 1999 05:27:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA31144; Sun, 4 Apr 1999 06:22:01 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 4 Apr 1999 06:20:17 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA31055; Sun, 4 Apr 1999 06:20:16 -0500 Message-ID: <005b01be7e8d$6b67b600$21e62ac2@oemcomputer> From: "Noel Vaillant" To: "pdflist" Subject: [PDF] Reader 4.0 fails where Exchange 3.01 succeeds ... (windows 98) Date: Sun, 4 Apr 1999 12:22:25 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Hi All, It is a puzzle to me, that I have encountered pdf files for which Reader 4.0 would generate a "Cannot extract embedded font..." error message, when Exchange 3.01 would be perfectly happy about this pdf file, and display it without any error message... (dp Story has indicated to me a way of regenerating my ps file prior to distilling, so that Reader 4.0 no longer complains about it, so I am not too bothered by the problem anymore) Yet, why should something work in Exchange 3.01, and fail in Reader 4.0 ???? Regards. Noel. ________________________ Name: Dr Noel Vaillant Location: London UK Email: vaillant@netcomuk.co.uk _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 4-Apr-1999 13:36:51-GMT,2770;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id GAA10757 for ; Sun, 4 Apr 1999 06:36:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA02276; Sun, 4 Apr 1999 07:32:54 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 4 Apr 1999 07:31:17 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA02152; Sun, 4 Apr 1999 07:31:16 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Reader 4.0 fails where Exchange 3.01 succeeds ... (windows 98) Date: Sun, 4 Apr 1999 13:31:01 +0100 Message-ID: <000001be7e97$00d568a0$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <005b01be7e8d$6b67b600$21e62ac2@oemcomputer> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> > It is a puzzle to me, that I have encountered pdf files for > which Reader 4.0 > would generate a "Cannot extract embedded font..." error message, > when Exchange 3.01 would be perfectly happy about this pdf file, > and display it without any error message... I don't think it is the case here, but Acrobat 4 has a new feature, or arguably bug fix: it honours the "do not embed" instruction that some TrueType fonts contain. This mainly affects Distiller and PDFWriter, and simply enforces the licensing for fonts that people were previously able to ignore. (There are PostScript fonts that may not legally be embedded either, but I don't know of any way that the font can be marked, so this restriction is likely to apply only to TrueType for now). It is just possible that Reader 4.0 detects a font that was embedded by an earlier release, but where the font shows it should not have legally been embedded, then Reader 4.0 may refuse to show it. No idea if this is true, but it has a ring of plausibility. Aandi _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 5-Apr-1999 12:03:45-GMT,2426;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id GAA05584 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 06:03:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA16659; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 06:49:44 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 5 Apr 1999 06:43:22 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA16191; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 06:43:20 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Reader 4.0 fails where Exchange 3.01 succeeds ... (windows 98) Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 12:43:02 +0100 Message-ID: <000301be7f59$771da140$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <005b01be7e8d$6b67b600$21e62ac2@oemcomputer> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> > It is a puzzle to me, that I have encountered pdf files for > which Reader 4.0 > would generate a "Cannot extract embedded font..." error message, > when Exchange 3.01 would be perfectly happy about this pdf file, > and display it without any error message... I have examined one such file. It contained a bad font. The font was missing the first character (a %), and started with a "!", which is not allowed. Many font processors sort of skim through the font and don't check it in detail; Acrobat 4 seems to have tightened this up. The file was created with PDFTeX. I doubt Distiller or PDFWriter would embed a font with this obvious fault (but it is possible). Aandi _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 5-Apr-1999 12:15:33-GMT,2083;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id GAA05777 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 06:15:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA18531; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 07:10:08 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 5 Apr 1999 07:08:15 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA18390; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 07:08:14 -0500 Message-ID: <3708A89F.336243F5@pacific.net.sg> Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 20:12:15 +0800 From: jo leong X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Pagemaker 6.5 to PDF - graphics disappear Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Hi, I've encountered a weird problem when Exporting to PDF from pagemaker 6.5 on the Mac. I was trying out the tutorial on links that comes with Pagemaker 6.5. When I exported the file to PDF, the resulting PDF file didn't have the graphics but the links were there (these were created according to the tutorial). Is there a setting in Distiller 3.01 that needs to be set ? When I exported the file straight from the provided document template on the pagemaker CD, the graphics didn't appear either. Was wondering if anyone has experienced this problem before ? Jo Leong _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 5-Apr-1999 13:08:56-GMT,3198;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id HAA06672 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 07:08:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA22160; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 08:02:17 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 5 Apr 1999 08:00:33 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA21967; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 08:00:31 -0500 From: "Scott Hamlow" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Reader 4.0 with Search ??? Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 06:00:53 -0700 Message-ID: <000001be7f64$565f5ce0$45a2fecc@scotth.fourgen.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2232.26 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <76F37B2B6013D21184E400A02461E5AF014C9941@msexchg1.wcnoc.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> If the license agreement for 4.0 is anything like 3.x, which I believe it is, you can freely distribute Acrobat with Search, which comes with your paid copy of Acrobat 4. > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com [mailto:owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com]On > Behalf Of Decker Gary E > > I'm hoping for a revised announcement. A few weeks ago, I made a > presentation to another division in my company, showing how one of our > major documents could be converted from another system to Adobe Acrobat. > They agreed, and are in the process of soliciting bids for the > conversion. One of the biggest selling points was the ability to search > across documents (this document would consist of several individual > files). > > As luck would have it, we've already ordered our copy of Acrobat 4.0. > I'm not looking forward to telling my management that we can't use the > software we bought (or that we'll have to maintain backward > compatibility with the 3.0 Reader...in which case, why buy 4.0?). That, > or to use it, we'll have to update 1000 or so workstations at $15 a pop > with the new Reader+Search. > > If anyone is privy to the licensing agreement for the new Reader+Search, > I'd be interested to know if it is/will be legal to just buy one copy of > the CD and install it on multiple workstations, or if the $15 is for one > license. > > Gary Decker, IS Analyst > Wolf Creek Nuclear Operating Corporation, Burlington KS USA _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 5-Apr-1999 14:33:02-GMT,1796;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id IAA08542 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 08:33:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA28097; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 09:20:00 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 5 Apr 1999 09:18:19 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA28018; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 09:18:18 -0500 Message-Id: <9904059233.AA923321930@smtplink.dis.anl.gov> X-Mailer: ccMail Link to SMTP R6.01.01 Date: Mon, 05 Apr 99 09:13:38 -0600 From: "Pam Richmond" To: Subject: Re:RE: [PDF] Byte-serving large files MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Sam, I have tried unchecking the "Allow Background Downloading" and it does work. I haven't tried 4.0, but in 3 it does work. However, the default is to allow background downloading, so we can't expect that users will not have to download the whole file. Thanks, Pam _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 5-Apr-1999 19:41:45-GMT,2285;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id NAA17927 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 13:41:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA22163; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 14:34:48 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 5 Apr 1999 14:31:55 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA21715; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 14:31:54 -0500 Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 12:33:15 -0700 From: Kurt Foss Subject: [PDF] Acrobat Reader 4.0 Final for Mac & Win (ENG) To: PDF@lists.pdfzone.com Message-id: <37066061.63BA1AF8@pdfzone.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> PDFzone.COM has removed the pre-release versions of Adobe Acrobat Reader 4.0 and replaced them with the FINAL release versions -- currently available for the Macintosh and Windows platforms, English language only. rgds ~ Kurt PDFzone.COM _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 5-Apr-1999 19:41:46-GMT,3473;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id NAA17929 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 13:41:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA22162; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 14:34:48 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 5 Apr 1999 14:32:06 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA21805; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 14:32:04 -0500 Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 12:33:30 -0700 From: Noel Vaillant Subject: Re: [PDF] Latex > dvips > Distiller 3.02 > Reader 4.0 (windows 98) To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-id: <001b01be7df8$4ff88100$0ae62ac2@oemcomputer> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0025_01BE7F60.834110E0" Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0025_01BE7F60.834110E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ------=_NextPart_000_0025_01BE7F60.834110E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
dvips -j0 filename did it ! Somehow, I knew you'd sort that one = out.
Thanx a lot. Regards. Noel.
 
 
Also,=20 what switches on dvips do you use. I've been successful = with

dvips -M=20 fiename

or, try the -j0 switch.

Hepe things work=20 out.

dps

------=_NextPart_000_0025_01BE7F60.834110E0-- _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 5-Apr-1999 23:39:41-GMT,2846;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id RAA24498 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 17:39:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA09515; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 18:33:09 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 5 Apr 1999 18:31:17 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA09307; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 18:31:16 -0500 Message-ID: <370963AD.73886AF6@earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 18:30:22 -0700 From: Scottie X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en]C-DIAL (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Pagemaker 6.5 to PDF - graphics disappear References: <3708A89F.336243F5@pacific.net.sg> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Yes, Many have had the same problem. The workaround is to print the file to a Post Script document then Distill it. It works great that way. If you need help on how to Print to PS, email me at scla@earthlink.net Scottie jo leong wrote: > > <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> > <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> > > Hi, > > I've encountered a weird problem when Exporting to PDF from pagemaker > 6.5 on the Mac. I was trying out the tutorial on links that comes with > Pagemaker 6.5. When I exported the file to PDF, the resulting PDF file > didn't have the graphics but the links were there (these were created > according to the tutorial). > > Is there a setting in Distiller 3.01 that needs to be set ? When I > exported the file straight from the provided document template on the > pagemaker CD, the graphics didn't appear either. > > Was wondering if anyone has experienced this problem before ? > > Jo Leong > > _____________________________________________________________ > > * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * > Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM > < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 6-Apr-1999 0:51:56-GMT,3827;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id SAA26115 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 18:51:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA14114; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 19:41:05 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 5 Apr 1999 19:39:22 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA13999; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 19:39:21 -0500 From: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?Carlos_Gonz=E1lez?=" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] screen captures Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 02:39:39 +0200 Message-ID: <01be7fc5$f41ed9e0$d665513e@none.servicom.es> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Hi Dennis: I'm doing a very simple thing. I capture sreens with ALT+Print Screen. Paste them into Photoshop. They land with 72dpi resolution. Turn color into indexed color (only for size reasons). My manual is being done in Word, so I insert them into Word and make a PDF. Here, a couple of things. If they fit with their original size (usually do) they look great in Word. So they will look great in PDF. If they exceed Word limits and have to be resized in Word, they start as Blurry in Word too. But if they fit, there's this option. We have them great looking in word, and make a PDF. The PDF has ONE zoom factor, in wich the screen captures look great. In our case, for the Word docs. with screen capture, the zoom factor is 133%. We set the PDF to open with that zoom factor. We also used ACROBAT 4.0 to open them and look also great. It even has a 'bit wider' margin to change the zoom without distorting the picture. Our monitor is at 1024 x 768 (17") resolution. With that zoom factor, the A4 fits inside the screen looking great. But if changing to 800 x 600, the PDF still looks great but exceeds the screen limits at 133% zoom. So the thing is... Your work will be seen in one kind of machine (Adapt it for that kind) or in many ...(trouble). If it's for one client, that will see on one kind of machine... then you're lucky. You only have to look for a zoom that fits their machines. If it's for distribution, depends on the size of your work. You probably won't get good results with A4 but you may have good ones with smaller sizes. If you'd like, I can attach you one of my pages. Maybe it can help. Regards. Carlos Gonzalez. ************************************************************** La Oficina Sin Papel S.L. Carlos Gonzalez Marti Director General Cristóbal Bordiú, 63 28003 Madrid (Spain) Tel: + 34 915 344 348 Fax: + 34 915 531 508 e-mail: laoficinasinpapel@mad.servicom.es ************************************************************** -----Original Message----- De: Dennis Walker Para: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Fecha: viernes 2 de abril de 1999 19:55 Asunto: Re: [PDF] screen captures _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 6-Apr-1999 11:07:06-GMT,2279;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id FAA08848 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 05:07:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA18360; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 05:57:40 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 6 Apr 1999 05:55:27 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA18199; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 05:55:26 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Message-Id: Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 13:13:20 +0000 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: cmpart Subject: [PDF] Is it possible to personalize PDF documents? Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Greetings I would like to know whether is it possible to personalize a PDF document in the following way. I think this is an interesting case about PDF customization. There is any solution? A 60-page PDF document with product data-sheets is distributed on CD-ROM to a group of final users (ie resellers). They will need to print single data sheets when their customer ask them information about a given product. However, the data-sheet should be personalized with the name/address of the reseller so as they will appear on the printed sheet. I know is it possible to add forms to PDF, however, the reseller should fill the form with his name/address only once when installing the CD_ROM and not each time he's printing a sheet from the PDF document. There is a simple way to do this? Thanks in advance Mr Gianluca Carri, Paris _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 6-Apr-1999 11:44:58-GMT,3735;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id FAA09514 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 05:44:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA20600; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 06:35:47 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 6 Apr 1999 06:34:26 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA20494; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 06:34:25 -0500 Message-ID: <01BE7FFF.77389EE0.David_Tamburello@mazer.com> From: Dave Tamburello To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Is it possible to personalize PDF documents? Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 07:31:19 -0400 Organization: Mazer Corporation X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Gianluca, On the low end, check out the PFN kit located on your Acrobat 3 installation CD. It contains instruction for setting up an external file which can be used to populate the form at the click of a button. Start with (your CD drive)\utility\pfn kit\pfn.pdf. You can also do this with forms and JavaScript persistant global variables. If you are considering going to a web-based solution any time soon, check out www.audienceone.com. They have a web-based solution that would allow your workers to select custom content for the PDF and personalize it with information on themselves and/or the customer. good luck! David M.Tamburello Training Specialist Mazer e-Publishing Grand Rapids, MI 49546 (616)285-3900 ext. 232 (616)285-3950 FAX Ask me about Acrobat training! -----Original Message----- From: cmpart [SMTP:cmpart@worldnet.net] Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 1999 9:13 AM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Is it possible to personalize PDF documents? <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Greetings I would like to know whether is it possible to personalize a PDF document in the following way. I think this is an interesting case about PDF customization. There is any solution? A 60-page PDF document with product data-sheets is distributed on CD-ROM to a group of final users (ie resellers). They will need to print single data sheets when their customer ask them information about a given product. However, the data-sheet should be personalized with the name/address of the reseller so as they will appear on the printed sheet. I know is it possible to add forms to PDF, however, the reseller should fill the form with his name/address only once when installing the CD_ROM and not each time he's printing a sheet from the PDF document. There is a simple way to do this? Thanks in advance Mr Gianluca Carri, Paris _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 6-Apr-1999 12:54:43-GMT,4639;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id GAA10811 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 06:54:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA24958; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 07:42:47 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 6 Apr 1999 07:38:52 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA24604; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 07:38:50 -0500 X-Sender: prodok@pop.eunet.ch Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 14:37:34 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Max Wyss Subject: Re: [PDF] Is it possible to personalize PDF documents? Cc: cmpart Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Gianluca, there are several possibilities, depending on your requirements. A promising, but very often forgotten possibility is the PFN format, which has been set up to have personal information, such as names etc. available. Check the documentation on the Acrobat 3 CD-ROM about PFN, how to set it up and how to install it. You would send the user a template file which they can fill out. Another possibility is that you have a customer specific JavaScript file which contains all the customer data (and more). You can either prepare these files for your customers and send them separately, by e-mail, for example, or have them fill out a template. Of course, this is more flexible than what can be acheived with the PFN format. A third possibility are so called persistent global variables. In this case, these variables are stored in a particular file available for Acrobat at startup. You would add a form to the CD for your users to fill out, and then to click on a button which takes care of storing the information. However, due to a distribution bug with Acrobat Reader (and Exchange), you first will need to create an empty text file named "glob.js" in the plug-in directory (Windoze) or the JavaScript folder in the Plug-ins folder (Mac). In the cases, where the users have to fill out the identification file, they would need a simple text editor, such as Textpad on Windoze or Simpetext on Mac. The files are plain text files. However, there is one point to aware of: you may have to code the high-ASCII characters; give the users a table of these codings. With the infamous belt drive component catalog I am just about to finish for a client of mine, we are using the second approach, and send the registered users their identity file, which they then can copy to the specified directory. This approach allows to add information about their specific standard discounts, used in the shopping cart functions. In any case, you will add some forms fields to your data sheets. It may be a good idea to check whether the customer specific values are there, and to have a default text when they are not. Hope, this can help. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch WWW: http://www.prodok.ch/prodok Bridging the Knowledge Gap ______________________ > > >A 60-page PDF document with product data-sheets is distributed on CD-ROM to >a group of final users (ie resellers). They will need to print single data >sheets when their customer ask them information about a given product. > >However, the data-sheet should be personalized with the name/address of the >reseller so as they will appear on the printed sheet. > > >I know is it possible to add forms to PDF, however, the reseller should >fill the form with his name/address only once when installing the CD_ROM >and not each time he's printing a sheet from the PDF document. > >There is a simple way to do this? > > >Thanks in advance >Mr Gianluca Carri, Paris _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 6-Apr-1999 13:41:36-GMT,1856;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id HAA11771 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 07:41:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA29687; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 08:32:31 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 6 Apr 1999 08:31:15 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA29540; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 08:31:14 -0500 From: "Gary Weimer (CINFIN)" To: Subject: [PDF] Plug-ins with Acrobat 4.0 Message-ID: <0039010006848196000002L162*@MHS> Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 09:36:56 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id IAA29531 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Has anyone experienced any differences with 3rd party plug-ins and Acrobat 4.0? Specifically, does Compose work the same? I don't have 4.0 yet, but am considering making the change. I just wondered about the implications with my other tools. Thanks, Gary Weimer, CDIA _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 6-Apr-1999 14:13:25-GMT,2971;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id IAA12519 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 08:13:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA00077; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 09:05:32 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 6 Apr 1999 09:04:10 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA32714; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 09:04:08 -0500 Message-ID: <004901be8036$545e2d40$466564c8@ntplx.net> From: "Michael Abrahamson" To: References: <0039010006848196000002L162*@MHS> Subject: Re: [PDF] Plug-ins with Acrobat 4.0 Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 10:04:04 -0400 Organization: Liturgical Publications MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Sort of related question: Is the send e-mail feature in Acrobat 4 similar to the Arts Joust plug-in for Acro 3 that allows you to specify a particular address as the default send to: address? Can anyone give details as to the specific functionality of this new Acrobat 4 feature? Thanks for your time. Mike Abrahamson Liturgical Publications ----- Original Message ----- From: Gary Weimer (CINFIN) To: Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 1999 9:36 AM Subject: [PDF] Plug-ins with Acrobat 4.0 > > <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> > <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> > > Has anyone experienced any differences with 3rd party plug-ins and Acrobat 4.0? > Specifically, does Compose work the same? I don't have 4.0 yet, but am > considering making the change. I just wondered about the implications with my > other tools. > > Thanks, > Gary Weimer, CDIA > > _____________________________________________________________ > > * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * > Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM > < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > > > _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 6-Apr-1999 14:16:13-GMT,2225;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id IAA12574 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 08:16:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA00509; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 09:09:23 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 6 Apr 1999 09:08:15 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA00366; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 09:08:13 -0500 Message-ID: <01BE8014.F26418A0.David_Tamburello@mazer.com> From: Dave Tamburello To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Plug-ins with Acrobat 4.0 Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 10:05:05 -0400 Organization: Mazer Corporation X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> I tested compose on my beta of 4 and had no problems. Both the 3.x and 4 versions worked fine on Stout. David M.Tamburello Training Specialist Mazer e-Publishing Grand Rapids, MI 49546 (616)285-3900 ext. 232 (616)285-3950 FAX Ask me about Acrobat training! -----Original Message----- From: Gary Weimer (CINFIN) [SMTP:Gary_Weimer@CINFIN.COM] Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 1999 9:37 AM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Plug-ins with Acrobat 4.0 Has anyone experienced any differences with 3rd party plug-ins and Acrobat 4.0? Specifically, does Compose work the same? I don't have 4.0 yet, but am considering making the change. I just wondered about the implications with my other tools. Thanks, Gary Weimer, CDIA _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 6-Apr-1999 15:15:03-GMT,2769;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id JAA14045 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 09:15:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA04886; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 10:04:02 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 6 Apr 1999 10:01:39 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA04666; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 10:01:38 -0500 Message-ID: <01BE801C.687043A0.David_Tamburello@mazer.com> From: Dave Tamburello To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Plug-ins with Acrobat 4.0 Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 10:58:29 -0400 Organization: Mazer Corporation X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Michael, The feature is Windows only and requires that your default mail program be MAPI enabled. It is very generic in that it merely pops up a new mail message with your file attached. The documentation recommends customizing through your MAPI mail server. However, the new JavaScript functionality will give you a little more control over the mail function. You can specify to, cc, bcc, subject and even the message body. In addition to sending the PDF, you will be able to send an FDF form or a mail message without any file attachments. David M.Tamburello Training Specialist Mazer e-Publishing Grand Rapids, MI 49546 (616)285-3900 ext. 232 (616)285-3950 FAX Ask me about Acrobat 4.0 training! -----Original Message----- From: Michael Abrahamson [SMTP:mabrahamson@liturgicalpublications.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 1999 10:04 AM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Plug-ins with Acrobat 4.0 Sort of related question: Is the send e-mail feature in Acrobat 4 similar to the Arts Joust plug-in for Acro 3 that allows you to specify a particular address as the default send to: address? Can anyone give details as to the specific functionality of this new Acrobat 4 feature? Thanks for your time. Mike Abrahamson Liturgical Publications _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 6-Apr-1999 14:03:21-GMT,2634;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id IAA12245 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 08:03:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA31089; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 08:47:11 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 6 Apr 1999 08:44:59 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA30789; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 08:44:57 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990406155310.009442a0@re.nettuno.it> X-Sender: reg001d1@re.nettuno.it X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) X-Priority: 1 (Highest) Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 15:53:10 +0100 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: LINKSERVICE Subject: Re: [PDF] Plug-ins with Acrobat 4.0 In-Reply-To: <0039010006848196000002L162*@MHS> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Dear >Gary, all the third party developers release new versions compatible with Acrobat 4.0. Ambia has updated Compose to version 4.0, so it is compatible with Acrobat 4.0. Contact the manifacturer for the upgrade. I hope this can help you. Best Regards, Vainer Gilioli LinkService Srl Italy At 09:36 AM 4/6/99 -0400, you wrote: > ><- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> ><- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> > >Has anyone experienced any differences with 3rd party plug-ins and Acrobat 4.0? >Specifically, does Compose work the same? I don't have 4.0 yet, but am >considering making the change. I just wondered about the implications with my >other tools. > >Thanks, >Gary Weimer, CDIA > >_____________________________________________________________ > > * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * > Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM > < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > > > _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 6-Apr-1999 16:35:57-GMT,1866;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id KAA16187 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 10:35:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA11455; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 11:26:14 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 6 Apr 1999 11:24:29 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA11301; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 11:24:28 -0500 From: Stuart_Thomas@vanguard.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: VGINOTES To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <8525674B.005A22FA.00@vgi4mail.vanguard.com> Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 12:23:57 -0400 Subject: [PDF] Acrobat Security Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Could somebody give me a quick overview of how good/bad the security feature is in Acrobat. Has anything changed since 1995? Is it 40-bit encryption? Any info would be greatly appreciated. I've already searched: 1) searched the listserv archive 2) Acrobat Classroom in a Book 3) Merz's book on Web Publishing and Acrobat 4) the Acrobat Online Guide Thanks, stuart thomas the vanguard group _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 6-Apr-1999 16:55:38-GMT,2650;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id KAA16693 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 10:55:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA13382; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 11:49:27 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 6 Apr 1999 11:47:49 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA13246; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 11:47:48 -0500 From: "Carl L. Young" To: "Carl Young" Cc: , , Subject: [PDF] Phoenix FUN announcement Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 09:48:50 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2212 (4.71.2419.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.0810.800 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> It's time for more FUN! The next meeting will be 4-6 p.m. April 22 at Inter-Tel, 7300 W. Boston St., Chandler. The facility is near I-10 and Chandler Boulevard. Our program will be on FrameMaker Plug-ins and customizing Frame menus. We'll also get an update on what our FUN members are doing, and try to answer questions. Please RSVP to carl@digipubcorp.com. A map and more detailed directions will be included in a reminder e-mail. (FYI, DigiPub is holding an Acrobat Power User Training Class April 27. See www.digipubcorp.com for details.) Carl L. Young DigiPub Solutions Corp. (602) 788-6512 Adobe FrameMaker, Acrobat, and FrameMaker+SGML sales, training, and consulting ---------------------------------------- Sales, training, and consulting for the Canterbury document management system for FrameMaker ---------------------------------------- www.digipubcorp.com _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 6-Apr-1999 17:34:26-GMT,2032;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id LAA17748 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 11:34:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA15866; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 12:19:11 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 6 Apr 1999 12:17:38 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA15686; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 12:17:37 -0500 From: "George Johnson" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Acrobat Security Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 10:17:47 -0700 Message-ID: <000001be8051$64030b60$04e78e8c@geo_ws1.u.washington.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 In-Reply-To: <8525674B.005A22FA.00@vgi4mail.vanguard.com> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> > Could somebody give me a quick overview of how good/bad the security > feature is in Acrobat. > Has anything changed since 1995? > Is it 40-bit encryption? > Any info would be greatly appreciated. Check out the PDF 1.3 reference at: http://partners.adobe.com/supportservice/devrelations/PDFS/TN/PDFSPEC.PDF _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 6-Apr-1999 20:38:57-GMT,1820;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id OAA22601 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 14:38:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA32362; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 15:28:51 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 6 Apr 1999 15:25:39 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA31988; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 15:25:37 -0500 Message-ID: <776091DAB20ED211B1A2400000000495040DF9@exchangesrv.raleigh.ncemcs.com> From: "Adolphsen, Debbie" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Converting .pdf files to .txt files Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 16:29:12 -0400 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Hello, Is there anyone who knows how to convert a .pdf file to a .txt file. Is there any type of software available to do this? The file I need to convert has to stay in the same format as it is in the .pdf file. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Debra Adolpshen North Carolina Electric Membership Corp. _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 6-Apr-1999 20:42:58-GMT,2984;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id OAA22687 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 14:42:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA32363; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 15:28:55 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 6 Apr 1999 15:27:37 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA32244; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 15:27:36 -0500 Message-Id: <199904062027.PAA32239@everglades.binc.net> Subject: Re: [PDF] Acrobat Security Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 16:27:57 -0400 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: Mark Gavin To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> [Stuart_Thomas@vanguard.com wrote on 4/6/99 12:23 PM] >Could somebody give me a quick overview of how good/bad the security >feature is in Acrobat. >Has anything changed since 1995? >Is it 40-bit encryption? Stuart, The default Acrobat security handler has not changed. It still uses 40 bit RC4 from RSA Data Security. This is low grade commercial cryptography. Basically, it is no more secure then a standard lock on your front door. If somebody wants to break through it, they can. To gauge the relative bit strength of cryptographic keys; there was a good example presented at this years RSA conference: A teaspoon of water can be used to represent all of the key combinations that would need to be checked to exhaustively test a 40 bit key. By comparison; the key combinations tested for a 56 bit key would be represented by the water in a small inflatable childrens swimming pool. Finally, the key combinations that need to be tested for a 128 bit key would be represented by all of the water in all of the oceans on the planet Earth. The only tool that will allow you to strongly encrypt PDF files, within Acrobat, is PageVault from Authentica Security Technology http://www.authentica-security.com. PageVault will allow you to encrypt each individual page using a separate 128 bit key. Mark Gavin Vice President, Software Development Digital Applications, Inc. 215 East Providence Road Aldan, PA, USA 19018-4129 (610) 284-4006 mgavin@DigApp.com http://www.DigApp.com _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 6-Apr-1999 20:48:32-GMT,2162;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id OAA22852 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 14:48:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA01122; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 15:42:03 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 6 Apr 1999 15:40:50 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA00937; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 15:40:49 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Converting .pdf files to .txt files Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 21:40:31 +0100 Message-ID: <002801be806d$b6b728c0$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <776091DAB20ED211B1A2400000000495040DF9@exchangesrv.raleigh.ncemcs.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> > Is there anyone who knows how to convert a .pdf file to a > .txt file. Is > there any type of software available to do this? The file I > need to convert > has to stay in the same format as it is in the .pdf file. > Any help would be greatly appreciated. Surely your requirement is a contradiction. .txt files have no format; it is impossible to preserve any format into one. What am I missing? Aandi _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 6-Apr-1999 20:55:12-GMT,2585;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id OAA23032 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 14:55:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA01168; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 15:42:21 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 6 Apr 1999 15:41:17 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA01009; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 15:41:16 -0500 Message-ID: <00EF773582D6D111939D00A0C9A92F640375FC0B@il0015exch003u.ih.lucent.com> From: "Farrell, Kevin (Kevin)" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] Converting .pdf files to .txt files Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 15:40:28 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> The Gemini plug-in will export to RTF, which is what you're looking for, I believe. -----Original Message----- From: Adolphsen, Debbie [mailto:debbie.adolphsen@ncemcs.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 1999 3:29 PM To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' Subject: [PDF] Converting .pdf files to .txt files <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Hello, Is there anyone who knows how to convert a .pdf file to a .txt file. Is there any type of software available to do this? The file I need to convert has to stay in the same format as it is in the .pdf file. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Debra Adolpshen North Carolina Electric Membership Corp. _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 6-Apr-1999 22:00:46-GMT,2307;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id QAA24842 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 16:00:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA08386; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 16:53:07 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 6 Apr 1999 16:51:29 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA08160; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 16:51:28 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990406175238.00857360@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 17:52:38 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: RE: [PDF] Plug-ins with Acrobat 4.0 In-Reply-To: <01BE801C.687043A0.David_Tamburello@mazer.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> >However, the new JavaScript functionality will give you a little more >control over the mail function. You can specify to, cc, bcc, subject and >even the message body. In addition to sending the PDF, you will be able to >send an FDF form or a mail message without any file attachments. > Will the availability of cc, bcc, subject etc be specific to the mail client you're using? I'd think so. IOW, you can pass that information along, but it's up to the mail client to make of it what it will, I suspect. Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 6-Apr-1999 22:08:23-GMT,2780;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id QAA25104 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 16:08:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA09382; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 17:02:05 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 6 Apr 1999 17:00:55 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA09191; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 17:00:54 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Plug-ins with Acrobat 4.0 Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 23:00:47 +0100 Message-ID: <000001be8078$edf2dd60$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19990406175238.00857360@pop.iglou.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> > Will the availability of cc, bcc, subject etc be specific to the mail > client you're using? I'd think so. IOW, you can pass that > information > along, but it's up to the mail client to make of it what it > will, I suspect. An interesting question. So far as I know Acrobat uses MAPI to talk to the mail client. MAPI is Microsoft's standardised way to use e-mail in Windows. It allows you to send mail requests without worrying about what client you have. So I would think that these fields can be passed to all clients (or none). Already I am seeing questions "how do I change the mail program used by Acrobat". As is often the case, this is the wrong question. The right question is "how do I change the default mail program in Windows". (Unfortunately the answer to that is "I don't know; it depends completely on your mail client and some don't support it at all"). So far as I know, too, the Macintosh has no concept of a standard interface to e-mail? If that's right, it would account for the absence of this feature in the Mac platform. Aandi _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 6-Apr-1999 22:35:43-GMT,2720;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id QAA25920 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 16:35:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA11733; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 17:27:17 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 6 Apr 1999 17:26:02 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA11566; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 17:26:00 -0500 Message-ID: <370A8A4F.FCF38218@fcollins.com.au> Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 08:27:28 +1000 From: Norman McGreevy Organization: Franklin Collins Pty Ltd X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.02 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Converting .pdf files to .txt files References: <002801be806d$b6b728c0$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> I think most reasonable people would have understood the query to be asking how to convert .pdf to .rtf. As to your query "What am I missing?" sorry I can't help. Aandi Inston wrote: > <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> > <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> > > > Is there anyone who knows how to convert a .pdf file to a > > .txt file. Is > > there any type of software available to do this? The file I > > need to convert > > has to stay in the same format as it is in the .pdf file. > > Any help would be greatly appreciated. > > Surely your requirement is a contradiction. > > .txt files have no format; it is impossible to preserve any > format into one. > > What am I missing? > > Aandi > > _____________________________________________________________ > > * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * > Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM > < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 6-Apr-1999 23:16:43-GMT,2709;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id RAA26973 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 17:16:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA14988; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 18:09:47 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 6 Apr 1999 18:08:12 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA14850; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 18:08:08 -0500 Message-ID: <003c01be8082$6b02c500$3c18fed0@sue> From: "Susan Gililland" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] Converting .pdf files to .txt files Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 15:43:13 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> I know of two software packages that may do what you ask: Forte - was under $100, and Redwing - was about $700. -----Original Message----- From: Adolphsen, Debbie To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' Date: Tuesday, April 06, 1999 1:47 PM Subject: [PDF] Converting .pdf files to .txt files > ><- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> ><- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> > >Hello, > >Is there anyone who knows how to convert a .pdf file to a .txt file. Is >there any type of software available to do this? The file I need to convert >has to stay in the same format as it is in the .pdf file. Any help would be >greatly appreciated. > >Thanks, > >Debra Adolpshen >North Carolina Electric Membership Corp. > >_____________________________________________________________ > > * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * > Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM > < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > > _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 6-Apr-1999 23:42:58-GMT,2883;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id RAA27645 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 17:42:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA17219; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 18:38:15 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 6 Apr 1999 18:36:48 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA17044; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 18:36:47 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Converting .pdf files to .txt files Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 00:36:36 +0100 Message-ID: <000101be8086$50c037a0$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <370A8A4F.FCF38218@fcollins.com.au> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> I'm sorry, I don't think most reasonable people think .rtf and .txt are interchangeable. .txt is very specifically a file containing only text and nothing else; a universal text-only format, free by design from layout and from formatting. (Well, universal-ish; line endings can be something of a problem) RTF is a proprietary Microsoft formatted text file, usable only with a limited selection of products, most of them on Windows. Hence my puzzlement. You may of course choose to interpret .txt in any way you like; and you may happen to agree with what the original questioner meant. But you'd still be wrong, in my opinion. But let's not argue. I'm more interested to find out what the original question meant, and whether I can help with that. Aandi > I think most reasonable people would have understood the query to be > asking how to convert .pdf to .rtf. As to your query "What am I > missing?" sorry I can't help. > > > Is there anyone who knows how to convert a .pdf file to a > > > .txt file. Is > > > there any type of software available to do this? The file I > > > need to convert > > > has to stay in the same format as it is in the .pdf file. _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 7-Apr-1999 0:06:42-GMT,3580;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id SAA28135 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 18:06:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA18968; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 18:58:57 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 6 Apr 1999 18:57:44 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA18830; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 18:57:43 -0500 Message-ID: <370A9FD3.4FA28075@fcollins.com.au> Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 09:59:15 +1000 From: Norman McGreevy Organization: Franklin Collins Pty Ltd X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.02 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Converting .pdf files to .txt files References: <000101be8086$50c037a0$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> I didn't suggest that .rtf and .txt were interchangeable, I stated that a reasonable interpretation of the query would conclude that the questioner was seeking to convert .pdf to .rtf. But as you say let's not argue and I'm sure everyone would appreciate your explanation of the difference between .txt and .rtf. Aandi Inston wrote: > <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> > <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> > > I'm sorry, I don't think most reasonable people think .rtf and > .txt are interchangeable. .txt is very specifically a file containing > only text and nothing else; a universal text-only format, free > by design from layout and from formatting. (Well, universal-ish; > line endings can be something of a problem) RTF is a proprietary > Microsoft formatted text file, usable only with a limited > selection of products, most of them on Windows. > > Hence my puzzlement. You may of course choose to interpret .txt > in any way you like; and you may happen to agree with what the > original questioner meant. > > But you'd still be wrong, in my opinion. But let's not argue. > I'm more interested to find out what the original question meant, > and whether I can help with that. > > Aandi > > > I think most reasonable people would have understood the query to be > > asking how to convert .pdf to .rtf. As to your query "What am I > > missing?" sorry I can't help. > > > > > Is there anyone who knows how to convert a .pdf file to a > > > > .txt file. Is > > > > there any type of software available to do this? The file I > > > > need to convert > > > > has to stay in the same format as it is in the .pdf file. > > _____________________________________________________________ > > * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * > Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM > < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 7-Apr-1999 0:07:04-GMT,2308;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id SAA28164 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 18:07:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA18969; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 18:58:57 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 6 Apr 1999 18:57:51 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA18871; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 18:57:50 -0500 From: "Carl L. Young" To: Subject: [PDF] Reader 4 Plus Search: An Answer Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 16:59:16 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2212 (4.71.2419.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.0810.800 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> The Southwest Adobe Sales Team just cc'd me on some internal Adobe mail on this issue. Distribution of Reader 4.0 with search is still free; you just have to spend $15 once to get the CD. For some reason (size, because it's bigger?) Adobe isn't making Reader+Search available for download. Regards, Carl Carl L. Young DigiPub Solutions Corp. (602) 788-6512 Adobe FrameMaker, Acrobat, and FrameMaker+SGML sales, training, and consulting ---------------------------------------- Sales, training, and consulting for the Canterbury document management system for FrameMaker ---------------------------------------- www.digipubcorp.com _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 7-Apr-1999 0:41:34-GMT,3111;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id SAA28992 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 18:41:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA21684; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 19:32:29 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 6 Apr 1999 19:30:37 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA21479; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 19:30:36 -0500 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19990407003208.0096b704@env-sol.com> X-Sender: thiersch@env-sol.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 17:32:08 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Tom Thiersch Subject: Re: [PDF] Reader 4 Plus Search: An Answer Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Thanks for the post, Carl. That's good news, but I'll only believe it when I see the License Agreement! As for not making the Reader+Search version available for download, the difference in size would be approx. 6+ MB vs 5+ MB -- that's really inconsequential these days, when people routinely download 18 MB browser installation files, etc. And why did Adobe stop making R+S available when they posted 3.02? That was, after all, really nothing more than a packaging of a couple of fixes along with the base 3.01 Reader so that everything could be installed in one step instead of three. No, I think there's something more going on with the R+S version behind the scenes that Adobe doesn't want to talk about; I'm waiting for my official 4.0 to show up before I make any plans to distribute the R+S to my customers. Adobe could easily put this whole issue to rest by simply making the installers for the new R+S combination available from their website -- they've previously claimed that they only "break even" when they sell you a $15 CD-ROM. So why not just use the internet for distribution and save everyone a lot of trouble? Strange... Thanks again for the update. Tom Thiersch At 04:59 PM 4/6/99 -0700, you wrote: >The Southwest Adobe Sales Team just cc'd me on some internal Adobe mail on >this issue. Distribution of Reader 4.0 with search is still free; you just >have to spend $15 once to get the CD. For some reason (size, because it's >bigger?) Adobe isn't making Reader+Search available for download. > >Regards, >Carl > >Carl L. Young >DigiPub Solutions Corp. _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 7-Apr-1999 0:41:47-GMT,2794;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id SAA28996 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 18:41:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA21968; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 19:35:36 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 6 Apr 1999 19:34:32 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA21858; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 19:34:31 -0500 Message-Id: <199904070034.RAA06683@dodo.prod.itd.earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Tue, 06 Apr 1999 17:34:26 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Converting .pdf files to .txt files From: "C. Scott Miller" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> > Is there anyone who knows how to convert a .pdf file to a .txt file. Is > there any type of software available to do this? The file I need to convert > has to stay in the same format as it is in the .pdf file. You will probably end up copying and pasting text from a PDF into your word processing or page layout tool. If so, you should be aware... - The new version of Acrobat (4.0) has more advanced text selection and copying features than Exchange 3.x. In demos I have seen, the text selection tool comes in several varieties. One copies a single column of text and does, in fact, copy some of the text styling and sizes of the original. A still annoying problem, IMHO, is that there are still hard returns at the end of each line. Another variation of the tool allows you to select and copy tabular information (tab-delimited) which can be pasted into Excel as a spreadsheet. - You might want to look at BCL Computers products, particularly "Jade" - http://www.bcl-computers.com/contents/PDFSolutions/jade.htm. Free demo version available. -- HTH, C. Scott Miller PDF R_e_s_e_a_r_c_h__C_o_m_p_a_n_i_o_n A Designer's Guide to Adobe's Portable Document Format http://www.performancegraphics.com _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 7-Apr-1999 1:04:15-GMT,2824;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id TAA29491 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 19:04:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA23902; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 19:59:13 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 6 Apr 1999 19:57:48 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA23701; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 19:57:47 -0500 Message-ID: <370B48B8.945CB46C@realworld.com.au> Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 11:59:55 +0000 From: Dean Laffan X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Reader 4 Plus Search: An Answer References: <2.2.32.19990407003208.0096b704@env-sol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Tom Thiersch wrote: > SNIP > > Adobe could easily put this whole issue to rest by simply making the > installers for the new R+S combination available from their website -- > they've previously claimed that they only "break even" when they sell you a > $15 CD-ROM. So why not just use the internet for distribution and save > everyone a lot of trouble? Strange... > > Thanks again for the update. > > Tom Thiersch Was it on this list that someone posted with the information that .......whatsthernames (who I can't remember right now) ..... who supply the search engine to Adobe, had negotiated a new licence agreement which in effect required Adobe to confirm an actual number of Readers distributed to Adobe clients ? ( us developers and retail users) On CD they can say ....We have delivered x copies of the CD therefore our licence fees are... x$. If this was correct, there are some anomolies. Adobe pay a licence fee on every CD they send to us, but we are then licensed to ship unlimited copies of the Rdr+Srch to clients. So what is the point of restricting the distribution to CD in the first place ? Could someone from Adobe comment/correct me on this topic ? Dean _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 7-Apr-1999 1:30:22-GMT,3480;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id TAA00092 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 19:30:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA25587; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 20:22:30 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 6 Apr 1999 20:21:17 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA25452; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 20:21:15 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Converting .pdf files to .txt files Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 02:21:07 +0100 Message-ID: <000801be8094$e9ad0ca0$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <199904070034.RAA06683@dodo.prod.itd.earthlink.net> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> > - The new version of Acrobat (4.0) has more advanced text > selection and copying features than Exchange 3.x. To an extent, this is old wine in new bottles. > In demos I have seen, the text selection tool comes in > several varieties. > One copies a single column of text and does, in fact, copy > some of the text > styling and sizes of the original. Windows Acrobat has always copied in both plain text and RTF format to the clipboard, so there is a chance it may preserve some of the styling and sizes (especially if the same-named font is installed in the system). You do now get much more control over RTF (e.g. keep line spacing? keep text colour? keep superscripts?) The ability to copy a rectangular area has existed at least since 3.0, probably earlier. Use CTRL while selecting text. > > Another variation of the tool allows you to select and copy tabular > information (tab-delimited) which can be pasted into Excel as > a spreadsheet. That is indeed new. I hadn't noticed it; thanks! In fact, the same tool allows formatted text to be copied WITHOUT line breaks or even from vertical writing (e.g. Japanese). There is a lot to text selection in 4.0, at least in the Windows version (I don't know if this tool exists on the Mac), and you will miss a lot if you don't check the manual. The four variations of the select tool (including image select) fold out from the one button in Exchange. An interesting problem already starting to appear is that many people are not used to Adobe's "standard" user interface design and do not realise that if a button has a fly-speck in the bottom right hand corner, then it folds out. We will see many questions about tools that cannot be found. This is in the manual, but... Aandi _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 7-Apr-1999 1:54:44-GMT,3621;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id TAA00647 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 19:54:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA27608; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 20:48:10 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 6 Apr 1999 20:46:04 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA27342; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 20:46:02 -0500 Message-ID: From: Duff Johnson To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Reader 4 Plus Search: A Fear Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 18:48:58 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Snip! > > Adobe could easily put this whole issue to rest by simply making the > > installers for the new R+S combination available from their > website -- > > they've previously claimed that they only "break even" when > they sell you a > > $15 CD-ROM. So why not just use the internet for > distribution and save > > everyone a lot of trouble? Strange... > > > > Thanks again for the update. > > > > Tom Thiersch Good points all.... Perhaps there is (at long last!) a substantial re-work of Search in the near future....? I wonder if we'll be looking at a return to the dreaded "Search License" that old-timers will remember! Brrr! In those days, the right to burn a single CD with Search cost something like $500. Let me check here... Ah-ha! The last beta of Acrobat 4 shipped with "Search 4.0" according to the About screen. (I don't really see anything (nothing!) worth a version change here, but whatever.) The copyright date was changed to 1999, but the Credits lists exactly the same personnel as the 1996 (!) copyright on Search 3.0... > Was it on this list that someone posted with the information that > .......whatsthernames (who I can't remember right now) ..... > who supply the > search engine to Adobe, had negotiated a new license > agreement which in effect > required Adobe to confirm an actual number of Readers > distributed to Adobe > clients ? ( us developers and retail users) It's Verity, and they do license their TOPIC engine to Adobe for use in Search. > On CD they can say ....We have delivered x copies of the CD > therefore our > license fees are... x$. If this was correct, there are some > anomalies. Adobe pay > a license fee on every CD they send to us, but we are then > licensed to ship > unlimited copies of the Rdr+Srch to clients. So what is the > point of restricting > the distribution to CD in the first place ? Seems like a misprint, doesn't it? > Could someone from Adobe comment/correct me on this topic ? Seconded! Duff Johnson Document Solutions, Inc. duffj@document-solutions.com http://www.document-solutions.com _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 7-Apr-1999 2:12:30-GMT,2548;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id UAA01066 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 20:12:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA28981; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 21:04:10 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 6 Apr 1999 21:02:48 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA28842; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 21:02:47 -0500 Message-ID: <50AFCE9910E9D211982E00608CF26D1E6142@mail.roundtable.com.au> From: Karl De Abrew To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Plug-ins with Acrobat 4.0 Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 11:58:39 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Hi all, > Will the availability of cc, bcc, subject etc be specific to the mail > client you're using? I'd think so. IOW, you can pass that > information > along, but it's up to the mail client to make of it what it > will, I suspect. If Acrobat 4.0 is using the MAPI interface, then it will work on the Windows platform with most MAPI compliant e-mail clients. A short list of these is Netscape mail (latest), Outlook Express, CC Mail (latest), Eudora mail, Outlook 97/98, Microsoft Exchange. Of course there are many others. We use the MAPI interface for our plug-in ARTS Joust. There are some minor differences between the implementation of the MAPI functions in each mail client, for example Outlook Express ignores the display name of the file, and uses only the actual filename when attaching a document. There are bound to be other differences and/or bugs in the mail clients that will vary the results. regards, Karl De Abrew Karl@PlanetPDF.com Planet PDF - Code Cuts, AcroBuddies and PDF Store http://www.PlanetPDF.com/ _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 7-Apr-1999 9:04:05-GMT,3436;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id DAA09770 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 03:04:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA22231; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 03:56:42 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 7 Apr 1999 03:54:53 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA22101; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 03:54:52 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990407092057.015c7ec0@mailhost.cam.harlequin.co.uk> X-Sender: martinb@mailhost.cam.harlequin.co.uk X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 09:20:57 +0100 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com, From: Martin Bailey Subject: Re: [PDF] Acrobat Security In-Reply-To: <199904062027.PAA32239@everglades.binc.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> At 16:27 06/04/99 -0400, Mark Gavin wrote: >Stuart, > The default Acrobat security handler has not changed. It still uses 40 >bit RC4 from RSA Data Security. This is low grade commercial >cryptography. Basically, it is no more secure then a standard lock on >your front door. If somebody wants to break through it, they can. > >To gauge the relative bit strength of cryptographic keys; there was a >good example presented at this years RSA conference: >A teaspoon of water can be used to represent all of the key combinations >that would need to be checked to exhaustively test a 40 bit key. By >comparison; the key combinations tested for a 56 bit key would be >represented by the water in a small inflatable childrens swimming pool. >Finally, the key combinations that need to be tested for a 128 bit key >would be represented by all of the water in all of the oceans on the >planet Earth. > >The only tool that will allow you to strongly encrypt PDF files, within >Acrobat, is PageVault from Authentica Security Technology >http://www.authentica-security.com. PageVault will allow you to encrypt >each individual page using a separate 128 bit key. But remember that there are (at least theoretically) legal restrictions in moving files around the world if they use more than 40 bits. Regards Martin Bailey ---------------------------------------------------------- Digital Print & Publishing Harlequin Ltd martinb@harlequin.com http://www.harlequin.com ---------------------------------------------------------- I try to ensure that my views expressed here accord with my employers, but I am not a spokesman for Harlequin and the buck stops with me for what I say here ---------------------------------------------------------- _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 7-Apr-1999 9:32:22-GMT,2175;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id DAA10364 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 03:32:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA23894; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 04:23:36 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 7 Apr 1999 04:22:19 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA23796; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 04:22:18 -0500 Message-ID: <50AFCE9910E9D211982E00608CF26D1E6180@mail.roundtable.com.au> From: Karl De Abrew To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Acrobat Security Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 19:18:12 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Hi all, > But remember that there are (at least theoretically) legal > restrictions in > moving files around the world if they use more than 40 bits. But lucky for us, not in Australia :) See Geoffrey Keating's webpages for more interesting reading on PDF security and how to add decryption to GhostScript - http://www.ozemail.com.au/~geoffk/pdfencrypt/ This page also has some interesting info (again from Geoffrey), http://www.hedgie.com/passwords/index.html - probably worth a read if you are weighing up how secure "Standard" security really is. regards, Karl De Abrew karl@PlanetPDF.com Planet PDF - Code Cuts, AcroBuddies and PDF Store http://www.PlanetPDF.com/ _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 7-Apr-1999 4:05:59-GMT,2658;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id WAA03493 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 22:05:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA04126; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 22:58:06 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 6 Apr 1999 22:55:52 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA03880; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 22:55:51 -0500 Message-ID: <370AD754.753718BA@hsbc.co.jp> Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 12:56:04 +0900 From: Patrick Niessen Organization: HSBC Securities X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en]C-CCK-MCD (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en, ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdflist Subject: RE: [PDF] Reader 4.0 with Search ??? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Even the current version of Acrobat has to consider backwards compatibility. For us the main criteria is that our clients are able to read our documents. Some information services we use to publish publication still require us to create pdf compatible to version 2. With version 4.0 the only thing we need in the near future is the Reader software. Only with this version of the reader is it possible to display English characters as well as Japanese ones. Before, the only way you can read Japanese Acrobat files is to install a Japanese OS AND the Japanese version of Acrobat reader (which didn't have a search function). I will try out the new version as soon as the search function is also implemented. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Patrick A Niessen Equity Research Support / PC Support HSBC Securities Japan Ltd HSBC Building 11-1, Nihonbashi 3-chome, Chuo-ku, Tokyo 103-0027 Tel.: (03)5203-3829 Fax: (03)5203-3975 e-mail: niessen@hsbc.co.jp ------------------------------------------------------------------------ _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 7-Apr-1999 12:43:04-GMT,2047;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id GAA13896 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 06:43:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA02557; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 07:30:35 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 7 Apr 1999 07:28:19 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA02402; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 07:28:11 -0500 From: robert.richard@hrdc-drhc.gc.ca X-Internal-ID: 37028F2E000077DC Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 8:20:44 -0400 Message-ID: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) To: Subject: [PDF] Form Fields & Printing. X-Incognito-SN: 1395 X-Incognito-Version: 4.25.361 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> PDFZone list, Currently, all telecentre agents have access to fill out form fields, then they print to printer for a paper copy. They only have the Adobe Reader 3.01. To build the said form fields, I am using Adobe Exchange 3.0. In a total of approximately 60 fields, I have one field that does not want to print text on the paper copy. The form field properties name is unique to all the rest. Why should this one be different than the others? Any tips to fix this difficulty. Robert Richard DRH/HRD Canada _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 7-Apr-1999 12:44:22-GMT,2872;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id GAA13933 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 06:44:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA02855; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 07:33:27 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 7 Apr 1999 07:32:20 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA02742; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 07:32:18 -0500 Message-ID: <370B503F.1850E13D@wiwi.uni-regensburg.de> Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 14:31:59 +0200 From: Wolfgang =?iso-8859-1?Q?R=F6ckelein?= Organization: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Universit=E4t?= Regensburg X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: de,en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Reader 4 Plus Search: An Answer References: <2.2.32.19990407003208.0096b704@env-sol.com> <370B48B8.945CB46C@realworld.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id HAA02736 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Hi, Dean Laffan wrote: > On CD they can say ....We have delivered x copies of the CD therefore our > licence fees are... x$. If this was correct, there are some anomolies. Adobe pay > a licence fee on every CD they send to us, but we are then licensed to ship > unlimited copies of the Rdr+Srch to clients. So what is the point of restricting > the distribution to CD in the first place ? Perhaps you are also required to count your number of CDs shipped and report that to Adobe? Wolfgang -- Dipl.-Wirtsch.Inf. Voice: +49 941 943 3205 Wolfgang Roeckelein Fax: +49 941 943 3211 Uni Regensburg E-Mail: Wolfgang.Roeckelein@wiwi.uni-regensburg.de Universitaetsstr. 31 (MIME and NeXTmail ok) D-93053 Regensburg Talk: row01458@pcrw11.uni-regensburg.de Germany WWW: http://www-wi.uni-regensburg.de/~row01458/ GCM/B d-- s: a- C++ US+++$ UX+++ P+ L E? W++ N++ w-- O-(++) M+ !V PS++ PE Y+ PGP(++) t+ 5? X? R+ tv b++ DI D++ G e+++>++++ h+ r y? (Geek Code V3.x) Für den BND: Plutonium RAF Pullach Waffe PGP Geheim Munition Kanther Kurde Sex _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 7-Apr-1999 13:51:38-GMT,2413;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id HAA15345 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 07:51:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA08626; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 08:38:20 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 7 Apr 1999 08:34:42 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA08220; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 08:34:38 -0500 Message-Id: <199904071334.IAA08215@everglades.binc.net> Subject: Re: [PDF] Acrobat Security Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 09:34:59 -0400 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: Mark Gavin To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> [Martin Bailey wrote on 4/7/99 4:20 AM] >>The only tool that will allow you to strongly encrypt PDF files, within >>Acrobat, is PageVault from Authentica Security Technology >>http://www.authentica-security.com. PageVault will allow you to encrypt >>each individual page using a separate 128 bit key. > >But remember that there are (at least theoretically) legal restrictions in >moving files around the world if they use more than 40 bits. > Martin, Authentica has a waiver from the US Commerce Department allowing them to export 128 bit RC4 with PageVault. Because the keys are stored on a secure server; PageVault is classified as a key escrow system. This should get around the strong cryptography restrictions in many countries. Mark Gavin Vice President, Software Development Digital Applications, Inc. 215 East Providence Road Aldan, PA, USA 19018-4129 (610) 284-4006 mgavin@DigApp.com http://www.DigApp.com _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 7-Apr-1999 14:13:33-GMT,3253;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id IAA15965 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 08:13:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA11464; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 09:02:50 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 7 Apr 1999 09:01:34 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA11281; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 09:01:31 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990407100247.00968d10@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 10:02:47 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: RE: [PDF] Plug-ins with Acrobat 4.0 In-Reply-To: <000001be8078$edf2dd60$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> References: <3.0.5.32.19990406175238.00857360@pop.iglou.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> >So far as I know Acrobat uses MAPI to talk to the mail client. > >MAPI is Microsoft's standardised way to use e-mail in Windows. >It allows you to send mail requests without worrying about what >client you have. So I would think that these fields can be passed >to all clients (or none). I don't think passing the field from Acrobat is at issue, so much as what the mail client does with the fields ... whether it accepts all or just the basic address/subject ones. Unfortunately, I don't have mail of any sort installed on the machine where I'm playing with Reader 4. Now that it's finally out "for real" I'll put it on a couple of the other machines to see what happens with Eudora and Outlook Express. In time. BTW, it seems much simpler/more reliable to get Reader 4 from PDFZone than from Adobe's own site. As in: with IE3 and java scripting turned off, it seems impossible to get it from Adobe. No problems at PDFZone other than that my particular age group is excluded from the available choices on the registration form. > >Already I am seeing questions "how do I change the mail program >used by Acrobat". As is often the case, this is the wrong question. >The right question is "how do I change the default mail program >in Windows". Yes ... much like setting the defaults for what happens when you double click something ... it's up to you and Windows to work that out. Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 7-Apr-1999 14:31:41-GMT,2808;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id IAA16446 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 08:31:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA12615; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 09:15:21 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 7 Apr 1999 09:14:00 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA12424; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 09:13:57 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990407101512.00968d10@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 10:15:12 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] Reader 4 Plus Search: An Answer In-Reply-To: <370B48B8.945CB46C@realworld.com.au> References: <2.2.32.19990407003208.0096b704@env-sol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> >Was it on this list that someone posted with the information that >.......whatsthernames (who I can't remember right now) ..... who supply the >search engine to Adobe, Verity, isn't it? And I think it was here that this was mentioned. You may have put a finger on it. It's tough to figure licensing fees in a situation like this. I just discussed the same sort of thing with the RTpatch folks and we pretty well managed to stump one another; their licensing fees are based on the number of users to whom the patches will be distributed, our software goes to service bureaus who then distribute it to customers, so there's absolutely no way to determine the absolute number of patches that would take place. Not their fault, not ours ... just one of those things. Perhaps Verity and Adobe have negotiated a deal wherein each CD worth of Reader+Search is presumed to be passed on to an *average* of N end-users. That might account for it. Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 7-Apr-1999 14:41:58-GMT,1801;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id IAA16692 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 08:41:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA14111; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 09:29:07 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 7 Apr 1999 09:27:52 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA13918; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 09:27:49 -0500 From: Dianne_Duffy@infinium.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: INFINIUM Message-ID: <8525674C.004F10DA.00@whqntse1.infinium.com> Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 10:27:28 -0400 Subject: [PDF] Acrobat 4.0 - Where's the graphic selection tool Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Hi all, I just downloaded the "official" release and I can't seem to find the graphic selection tool. The text selection tool is visible and when I check the online documentation, it does reference the graphic tool. Am I missing something? Has anyone been able to use this tool? TIA - Dianne _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 7-Apr-1999 14:42:27-GMT,2008;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id IAA16708 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 08:42:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA14120; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 09:29:10 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 7 Apr 1999 09:28:02 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA13969; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 09:27:59 -0500 Message-ID: <697A4CA51395D111A658AA0004005806CEBD86@NT6> From: "Pottinger, Hardy" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] IAC Changes with Acrobat 4? Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 09:23:59 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> I'm just wondering, does anyone out there know if IAC is going to have any significant changes with the new version of Acrobat? If so, can you point me in the direction for finding more information on specifics? Thanks! ----------------------------------- HARDY POTTINGER Information Coordinator Orthopaedic Research Society 6300 N River Rd Ste 727 Rosemont, IL 60018-4226 (847)384-4219 / FAX (847)823-0536 pottinger@aaos.org http://www.ors.org ----------------------------------- _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 7-Apr-1999 14:54:24-GMT,2485;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id IAA17084 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 08:54:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA15701; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 09:43:10 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 7 Apr 1999 09:41:35 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA15464; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 09:41:33 -0500 Message-ID: <370C09C6.2629B60F@realworld.com.au> Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 01:43:43 +0000 From: Dean Laffan X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Reader 4 Plus Search: An Answer References: <2.2.32.19990407003208.0096b704@env-sol.com> <370B48B8.945CB46C@realworld.com.au> <370B503F.1850E13D@wiwi.uni-regensburg.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Wolfgang Röckelein wrote: > <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> > <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> > > Hi, > > Dean Laffan wrote: > > On CD they can say ....We have delivered x copies of the CD therefore our > > licence fees are... x$. If this was correct, there are some anomolies. Adobe pay > > a licence fee on every CD they send to us, but we are then licensed to ship > > unlimited copies of the Rdr+Srch to clients. So what is the point of restricting > > the distribution to CD in the first place ? > > Perhaps you are also required to count your number of CDs shipped and > report that to Adobe? I can see a lot of people losing the ability to count past 10 ... or eleven ! Dean _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 7-Apr-1999 14:56:24-GMT,2258;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id IAA17123 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 08:56:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA16228; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 09:48:26 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 7 Apr 1999 09:47:12 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA16051; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 09:47:07 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Acrobat 4.0 - Where's the graphic selection tool Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 15:46:54 +0100 Message-ID: <001201be8105$7b32d0e0$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <8525674C.004F10DA.00@whqntse1.infinium.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> > I just downloaded the "official" release and I can't seem to > find the graphic selection tool. It is a fold-out tool. To fold it out, click on the text select button (and hold the mouse down). The little fly speck in the corner of two of the tool buttons is supposed to tell you that, but it isn't exactly obvious. Unfortunately, too, although the Exchange (full product) help explains about fold-out tools, the Reader help does not - it just assumes you will know. This question is going to run and run... Aandi _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 7-Apr-1999 15:00:38-GMT,2138;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id JAA17207 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 09:00:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA16854; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 09:54:11 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 7 Apr 1999 09:53:01 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA16693; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 09:52:59 -0500 Message-Id: <199904071452.HAA12505@wren.prod.itd.earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 07:52:54 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Acrobat 4.0 - Where's the graphic selection tool From: "C. Scott Miller" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> > I just downloaded the "official" release and I can't seem to find the graphic > selection tool. On Mac, hold down the "option" key when you click on the Text Selection tool on the tool bar. On Windows, I assume it is the "Control" key. You will find three selection tools there - Text, Text Column, and Graphics. They appear to have disposed with the Tools menu in the new version. -- HTH, C. Scott Miller PDF R_e_s_e_a_r_c_h__C_o_m_p_a_n_i_o_n A Designer's Guide to Adobe's Portable Document Format http://www.performancegraphics.com _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 7-Apr-1999 15:03:50-GMT,1894;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id JAA17280 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 09:03:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA16627; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 09:52:13 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 7 Apr 1999 09:51:04 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA16445; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 09:51:01 -0500 Message-ID: <97F39596DEEECF11BC020000C09361E5B7A6DD@MV_EXCHANGE_2> From: "Teague, Tommy K" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] Acrobat 4.0 - Where's the graphic selection tool Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 08:50:06 -0600 Importance: high X-Priority: 1 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> The graphic selection tool for 4.0 is embedded under the Text selection tool. Hold your cursor over the text selection tool and click the left mouse button. Another tool bar will appear (after a brief pause) that contains the graphic selection tool as well as tools for selecting columns and tables. Tommy Teague Unisys Corporation _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 7-Apr-1999 15:47:01-GMT,2083;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id JAA18765 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 09:47:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA21694; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 10:39:20 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 7 Apr 1999 10:37:41 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA21486; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 10:37:39 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] TIFF/F to PDF From: "James H. Cloos Jr." MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: 07 Apr 1999 10:36:31 -0500 Message-ID: Lines: 21 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Does anyone have any (distributable) code for converting multipage TIFF files to the equivalent PDF file? ITU T.4 bilevel images would be enough for my needs. Something similar to libtiff's tiff2ps would be ideal. - -JimC - -- James H. Cloos, Jr. 1024D/ED7DAEA6 E9E9 F828 61A4 6EA9 0F2B 63E7 997A 9F17 ED7D AEA6 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v0.9.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD4DBQE3C3t+mXqfF+19rqYRAsLmAJjHJwlnhmTZfMvAwL0woSk61nlcAJwN5IKO ek1TelzF7PtcP83bgjWFeg== =zQEj -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 7-Apr-1999 16:27:58-GMT,2789;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id KAA20175 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 10:27:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA26244; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 11:21:52 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 7 Apr 1999 11:19:55 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA26052; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 11:19:52 -0500 Message-id: Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 08:24:56 +0100 Subject: Re: RE: [PDF] Converting .pdf files to .txt files To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Cc: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: werner@rapidgraphics.com (Steve Werner) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> pdf@lists.pdfzone.com writes: >That is indeed new. I hadn't noticed it; thanks! In fact, the >same tool allows formatted text to be copied WITHOUT line breaks >or even from vertical writing (e.g. Japanese). > >There is a lot to text selection in 4.0, at least in the Windows >version (I don't know if this tool exists on the Mac), and you >will miss a lot if you don't check the manual. > >The four variations of the select tool (including image select) >fold out from the one button in Exchange. > >An interesting problem already starting to appear is that many >people are not used to Adobe's "standard" user interface design >and do not realise that if a button has a fly-speck in the bottom >right hand corner, then it folds out. We will see many questions >about tools that cannot be found. This is in the manual, but... The ability to copy tabular material hasn't yet made it into the Mac version of Acrobat 4, unfortunately. I hope they fix that soon. There is another (subtle) change in copying behavior: If you are in Single Page view and choose Edit...Select All, it copies all of the text on the current page. In Acrobat 3, if you are in Continuous view and choose Edit...Select All, it copies all of the text on the *visible* pages. In Acrobat 4, if you're in Continuous view, it selects all the text in the *document*. Best, ^Steve^ _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 7-Apr-1999 16:36:37-GMT,3381;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id KAA20395 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 10:36:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA27030; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 11:28:48 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 7 Apr 1999 11:27:40 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA26914; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 11:27:37 -0500 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19990407162931.0096a210@env-sol.com> X-Sender: thiersch@env-sol.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 09:29:31 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Tom Thiersch Subject: RE: [PDF] Acrobat 4.0 - Where's the graphic selection tool Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> This particular UI method ("fly-out" or "fold-out" menus accessible only via the mouse) appears to be unique to Adobe's products -- Acrobat, PageMaker, and Photoshop all seem to share this same "feature", as do, I'm sure, all of the rest of the new generation of Adobe apps. What's missing, and is a gross violation of commonly-accepted GUI principles, is that there is no way to select the various tools from the menu bar. There are probably some other vendors as guilty of this omission as Adobe, but none having anywhere near the market share, at least as far as I know. Sorry for the rant, but this flaw in Adobe's thinking (that they can just choose to ignore the GUI standards used by the vase majority of the rest of similar applications) has been an irritant to me for a very long time now, and I only see it getting worse. Tom Thiersch At 03:46 PM 4/7/99 +0100, you wrote: > ><- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> ><- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> > > >> I just downloaded the "official" release and I can't seem to >> find the graphic selection tool. > >It is a fold-out tool. To fold it out, click on the text select >button (and hold the mouse down). The little fly speck in the >corner of two of the tool buttons is supposed to tell you that, >but it isn't exactly obvious. > >Unfortunately, too, although the Exchange (full product) help >explains about fold-out tools, the Reader help does not - it >just assumes you will know. > >This question is going to run and run... > >Aandi > >_____________________________________________________________ > > * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * > Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM > < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > > > _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 7-Apr-1999 16:43:23-GMT,2795;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id KAA20575 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 10:43:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA28052; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 11:38:30 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 7 Apr 1999 11:36:41 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA27821; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 11:36:39 -0500 From: "George Johnson" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Form Fields & Printing. Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 09:36:46 -0700 Message-ID: <000301be8114$d3f06a30$04e78e8c@geo_ws1.u.washington.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> > Currently, all telecentre agents have access to fill out form > fields, then > they print to printer for a paper copy. They only have the Adobe Reader > 3.01. > > To build the said form fields, I am using Adobe Exchange 3.0. In > a total of > approximately 60 fields, I have one field that does not want to > print text > on the paper copy. The form field properties name is unique to all the > rest. Is it the last field that is filled out? If so, this occurrs when the field data has not been "committed" by clicking outside of the field, pressing TAB, or pressing ENTER after entering the field data. A common solution is to provide a "Print" button which is programmed to print the document. When the user clicks the Print button, the data in the field is committed and it should print. If the user prints the document by some other means, the data in the field may remain uncommitted, and not print. Educating your users about this issue should help also. Other causes could be that the field is set to "Don't Print", overlapping fields, or printer driver issues. _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 7-Apr-1999 17:10:50-GMT,2272;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id LAA21346 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 11:10:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA30160; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 11:58:41 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 7 Apr 1999 11:56:53 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA29950; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 11:56:50 -0500 Message-ID: From: Duff Johnson To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Acrobat 4.0 - Where's the graphic selection tool Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 09:59:36 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> > What's missing, and is a gross violation of commonly-accepted GUI > principles, is that there is no way to select the various > tools from the > menu bar. > Tom Thiersch Yes... we had noticed that too. This flouting of good GUI design is really going to irritate those shops (like mine) that use Exchange in a production environment. We have relied on many a keyboard shortcut in Exchange 3.01, and I'm very, very sorry to see so many functions seemingly so unreachable in 4.0! Not only will be have to retrain (which is OK, and to be expected) but our productivity will go down (which is NOT OK and was NOT expected). Duff Johnson President, Document Solutions, Inc. http://www.document-solutions.com _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 7-Apr-1999 17:20:14-GMT,4401;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id LAA21669 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 11:20:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA31863; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 12:14:53 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 7 Apr 1999 12:13:36 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA31738; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 12:13:34 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Acrobat 4.0 - Where's the graphic selection tool Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 18:13:16 +0100 Message-ID: <000101be8119$ee21a360$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <2.2.32.19990407162931.0096a210@env-sol.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> > This particular UI method ("fly-out" or "fold-out" menus > accessible only via > the mouse) appears to be unique to Adobe's products -- > Acrobat, PageMaker, > and Photoshop all seem to share this same "feature", as do, > I'm sure, all of > the rest of the new generation of Adobe apps. Adobe have certainly polished this, but the first case I saw of it was CorelDRAW 3.0, way back in 1992. > > What's missing, and is a gross violation of commonly-accepted GUI > principles, is that there is no way to select the various > tools from the > menu bar. I'd be inclined to agree, since keyboard-only use is important (at least in Windows); but it's a little questionable whether a tool which is unusable without a mouse needs to be on the menus. An analogy is the drawing palettes in Word. > > There are probably some other vendors as guilty of this > omission as Adobe, > but none having anywhere near the market share, at least as > far as I know. Um. Microsoft? Well, arguably. Also...who pioneered moving critical functions to the right mouse button? A neat idea, but unfortunately most (I believe it is the great majority of) Windows users don't know about it and miss much of the key functionality of products. > > Sorry for the rant, but this flaw in Adobe's thinking (that > they can just > choose to ignore the GUI standards used by the vase majority > of the rest of > similar applications) has been an irritant to me for a very > long time now, > and I only see it getting worse. On the other hand, you could argue that the alternative is to let Microsoft make all the running - generally by introducing a new version of Word which looks nicer than the last one. People do seem to like those little buttons, but I remember in horror seeing Ami Pro 3.0 for the first time - from memory there were about 50 cute little buttons, with not a tool-tip in site. Things have changed and buttons are no longer a power user's toy. And Microsoft adopted that third-party standard before long at all. I wouldn't be that surprised to see fold out buttons appear in other vendor's applications, making the transition out of graphical applications to general use. They make a lot of sense and can really help to increase screen real-estate. It's certainly true that by adopting the Adobe interface standards, Acrobat is now a sophisticated and good looking product. It's also true that Acrobat Reader will go to a very large audience, who may never have seen a graphics application (indeed, who may have first seen a computer last week). It remains to be seen whether the audience is sophisticated and good looking enough for the product... Aandi _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 7-Apr-1999 17:22:51-GMT,2201;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id LAA21773 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 11:22:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA32026; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 12:16:10 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 7 Apr 1999 12:14:58 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA31885; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 12:14:56 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Acrobat 4.0 - Where's the graphic selection tool Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 18:14:50 +0100 Message-ID: <000201be811a$258d42a0$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> > We have relied > on many a keyboard shortcut in Exchange 3.01, and I'm very, > very sorry to > see so many functions seemingly so unreachable in 4.0! Not > only will be > have to retrain (which is OK, and to be expected) but our > productivity will > go down (which is NOT OK and was NOT expected). To be fair, along with the new look toolbar came the handy Adobe trick where a single keyboard character (usually a letter) selects the major tools. Aandi _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 7-Apr-1999 17:27:35-GMT,2646;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id LAA21859 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 11:27:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA32369; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 12:19:06 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 7 Apr 1999 12:17:54 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA32248; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 12:17:51 -0500 Message-id: Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 09:22:56 +0100 Subject: Re: RE: [PDF] Acrobat 4.0 - Where's the graphic selection tool To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Cc: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: werner@rapidgraphics.com (Steve Werner) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> pdf@lists.pdfzone.com writes: >This flouting of good GUI design is really going to irritate those shops >(like mine) that use Exchange in a production environment. We have relied >on many a keyboard shortcut in Exchange 3.01, and I'm very, very sorry to >see so many functions seemingly so unreachable in 4.0! Not only will be >have to retrain (which is OK, and to be expected) but our productivity >will >go down (which is NOT OK and was NOT expected). I'm not sure whose standards of GUI design you're quoting but in the desktop applications I've been using for the past decade (QuarkXPress, PageMaker, Illustrator, Freehand, Photoshop, etc.) there are many ways of picking tools, and they haven't always been available from the menu. However, beginning with Photoshop, Adobe has established a standard which it is extending to all its products: You can call out all tools from the Toolbox with a letter. If you hold your cursor over any tool you can see what the letter is. To access a hidden tool, Shift + the letter toggles you through the group. Thus to choose the Text Selection tool in Acrobat 4, type V. Shift + V toggles though the text/graphic selection tools. Best, ^Steve^ _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 7-Apr-1999 18:15:54-GMT,5743;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id MAA23569 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 12:15:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA05223; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 13:06:19 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 7 Apr 1999 13:04:27 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA04966; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 13:04:25 -0500 X-Sender: weller@pop3.axion.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 11:06:18 -0800 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: weller@axion.net (Angus Weller) Subject: [PDF] platform stability inside browsers Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Hi pdfzoners, Hopefully if this is the wrong place to post this concern Kurt will either hold this posting or redirect it to an appropriate location. I've been really pleased to find and use Abobe Acrobat. I am not a programmer. (Like a character in TRON, I am a user.) I realize that several years of using Adobe products has made me fairly skilled in navigating my way through a variety of software products to create my files. Now that I am mounting the files on the internet and getting my friends to test them. Problems are occuring. 1. It is not clear how to place the pdfviewer plugin in the appropriate location to implement a browser imbedded Reader window. Even my local computer dealer had no clue to how to implement the plugin, where it was or how powerful it is when it is working correctly. (Why can't the plug in be pre-installed like shockwave and other plug ins?) 2. There are as we know two browsers that seem to dominate the Net, Navigator and IE. At a client's office, I had to install the plugin in both browsers. The problem was that the files which were stable from my office platform seemed totally unreliable on the client platform. The client was using IE even though he had both browsers available. The problems in IE were i)the pointer icon wasn't stable switching back and forth from the hand tool to an arrow tool and back again, ii)the Acrobat window didn't fit properly into the browser window, the scroll bar at the bottom was largely hidden and a novice user probably wouldn't have seen it, iii) links to other locations were not reliably connecting. Netscape was totally stable. The problem is that the client was given several messages. First, pdf files didn't work on the Net. Second that half of the browser users might have an unsatifactory experience using pdf files inside a browser. Three that setting up the browser is too much of a hassle for a large number of users. 3.This weekend (I am Canadian) our national public broadcasting system, CBC, did a piece on the music industry and mpeg3 (?). The article started by talking about the industry distribution system and how the new music compression system made music files sound as good as FM radio. Their point was the technology had moved from University technology students to the general population. How can we get this technology to the general public? 4. My novice users were confused by the subtle character of the tool. The hand changing to a pointing finger for relative links and a pointing finger with a "w" in its wrist for a web link. Listening to the comments about 4.01 hiding tools isn't going to help these users. The binoculars usually mean enlargement not nessarily search for words. 5. One user, with many years of computer experience on both major platforms and browsers was fooled by IE's tendency to open new browser window when moving around my site. Having 10 open browser windows didn't make him feel too happy. 6. How can we get our web pages efficently accessible to search engines? I am a firm supporter of pdf. It allows me as a cartographer to overcome large design problems that occur with paper, type that is too small, forgetting to index features and so on. Also, as a West Coast Canadian the positive environmental issues are fantastic. I have had several million copies of my maps put into tradional print, a lot of trees. I know Adobe says 10's of millions of people have Acrobat Reader but how many have it installed on their machines properly? Why doesn't Adobe advertise their product in a similar way to Intel, Microsoft, Netscape or other companies. The local Adobe representative here says Adobe doesn't want to rock the Internet boat but if you have a superior product why don't they blow their own horn. Should we be asking Adobe to launch its own web browser based on Acrobat Reader? Thanks for you time and letting me express some of my concerns. Angus ************************************* Angus Weller 6268 129th St., Surrey, British Columbia, Canada, V3X 1S6 Tel: (604) 591-5192 e-mail: weller@axion.net or travel-media@bc1.com Internet store: www.travel-media.com ************************************* _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 7-Apr-1999 18:51:54-GMT,3343;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id MAA24537 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 12:51:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA10336; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 13:44:19 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 7 Apr 1999 13:42:47 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA10127; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 13:42:43 -0500 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19990407184440.0092d460@env-sol.com> X-Sender: thiersch@env-sol.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 11:44:40 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Tom Thiersch Subject: RE: [PDF] Acrobat 4.0 - Where's the graphic selection tool Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> At a recent Acrobat 4 presentation that I attended, I raised this issue with the presenters offline, and their explanation was that all of the Tools can be accessed via keyboard shortcuts ("V", in the case of the text selection tools), so a menu for Tools "isn't needed". This is, of course, wrong-thinking, but that seems to be the party line. There is at least one glaring flaw in this argument: If you are filling in a form, or using the Touch Up Text tool, the keyboard shortcuts are worse than worthless. The fact that the shortcuts are completely undocumented in the on-line Help for the Reader just makes things that much worse, and will lead to a lot of confusion for novice users who are accustomed to simple, industry-standard menus. This will, in turn, generate more calls to the help desks of companies who produce PDF-based products. And the people (like many of us who participate in this List) who have to answer those support lines can't even say "[Please] RTFM" in this case. Arrghh! Tom Thiersch At 09:59 AM 4/7/99 -0700, you wrote: > >> What's missing, and is a gross violation of commonly-accepted GUI >> principles, is that there is no way to select the various >> tools from the >> menu bar. > > > >> Tom Thiersch > >Yes... we had noticed that too. > >This flouting of good GUI design is really going to irritate those shops >(like mine) that use Exchange in a production environment. We have relied >on many a keyboard shortcut in Exchange 3.01, and I'm very, very sorry to >see so many functions seemingly so unreachable in 4.0! Not only will be >have to retrain (which is OK, and to be expected) but our productivity will >go down (which is NOT OK and was NOT expected). > >Duff Johnson >President, Document Solutions, Inc. >http://www.document-solutions.com _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 7-Apr-1999 19:17:06-GMT,6093;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id NAA25274 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 13:17:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA13623; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 14:12:30 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 7 Apr 1999 14:09:20 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA13187; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 14:09:15 -0500 Date: 07 Apr 99 14:11:59 -0500 From: "Norman Leonard" Subject: RE: [PDF] Acrobat 4.0 - Where's the graphic selection tool To: pdf X-Mailer: QuickMail Pro 1.5.4 (Mac) X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-Ascii" Message-Id: <19990407140336.250823a8.in@smtp.sevenww.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id OAA13180 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Reply to: RE: [PDF] Acrobat 4.0 - Where's the graphic selection tool Is there any way to access the tools using Javascript. I know you can access menu items via the "ExecuteMenuItem" method,(making the standard GUI argument all that much stronger) but it would be nice to activate individual tools when in Full Screen Mode. Also, If anyone knows, how can I get the "SetTimeout" and the "Focus/Blur" functions to work in Acrobat. I would like the first form field to be already activated (in focus) when a user opens the page. There is a big gap between Netscape and Acrobat(for newer Javascripters) for creating some of the same techniques found in Netscape. Any answers would be appreciated, thanks in advance. Tom Thiersch wrote: > ><- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> ><- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> > >At a recent Acrobat 4 presentation that I attended, I raised this issue with >the presenters offline, and their explanation was that all of the Tools can >be accessed via keyboard shortcuts ("V", in the case of the text selection >tools), so a menu for Tools "isn't needed". This is, of course, >wrong-thinking, but that seems to be the party line. > >There is at least one glaring flaw in this argument: If you are filling in a >form, or using the Touch Up Text tool, the keyboard shortcuts are worse than >worthless. > >The fact that the shortcuts are completely undocumented in the on-line Help >for the Reader just makes things that much worse, and will lead to a lot of >confusion for novice users who are accustomed to simple, industry-standard >menus. This will, in turn, generate more calls to the help desks of >companies who produce PDF-based products. And the people (like many of us >who participate in this List) who have to answer those support lines can't >even say "[Please] RTFM" in this case. Arrghh! > >Tom Thiersch > > >At 09:59 AM 4/7/99 -0700, you wrote: >> >>> What's missing, and is a gross violation of commonly-accepted GUI >>> principles, is that there is no way to select the various >>> tools from the >>> menu bar. >> >> >> >>> Tom Thiersch >> >>Yes... we had noticed that too. >> >>This flouting of good GUI design is really going to irritate those shops >>(like mine) that use Exchange in a production environment. We have relied >>on many a keyboard shortcut in Exchange 3.01, and I'm very, very sorry to >>see so many functions seemingly so unreachable in 4.0! Not only will be >>have to retrain (which is OK, and to be expected) but our productivity will >>go down (which is NOT OK and was NOT expected). >> >>Duff Johnson >>President, Document Solutions, Inc. >>http://www.document-solutions.com > > >_____________________________________________________________ > > * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * > Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM > < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > > >RFC822 header >----------------------------------- > > From owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Wed Apr 07 13:40:21 1999 > Received: by smtp.sevenww.com from localhost > (router,QMProSrv V2.6); Wed, 07 Apr 1999 13:40:21 +0700 > Received: by smtp.sevenww.com from everglades.binc.net > (208.155.48.8::mail daemon; unverified,QMProSrv V2.6); Wed, 07 Apr >1999 13:40:21 +0700 > Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) > by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA10270; > Wed, 7 Apr 1999 13:43:50 -0500 > Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 7 Apr 1999 >13:42:47 -0500 > Received: (from majordom@localhost) > by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA10127; > Wed, 7 Apr 1999 13:42:43 -0500 > Message-Id: <2.2.32.19990407184440.0092d460@env-sol.com> > X-Sender: thiersch@env-sol.com > X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) > Mime-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 11:44:40 -0700 > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > From: Tom Thiersch > Subject: RE: [PDF] Acrobat 4.0 - Where's the graphic selection tool > Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html > X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html > X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com > Norman J. Leonard Seven Worldwide 817 West Washington Chicago, IL 60607 nleonard@sevenww.com _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 7-Apr-1999 19:21:36-GMT,2049;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id NAA25405 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 13:21:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA14074; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 14:16:22 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 7 Apr 1999 14:13:51 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA13741; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 14:13:47 -0500 From: robert.richard@hrdc-drhc.gc.ca X-Internal-ID: 37028F2E000092C6 Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 15:05:57 -0400 Message-ID: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Form Fields & Printing. X-Incognito-SN: 1395 X-Incognito-Version: 4.25.361 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> PDFZone, George Johnson wrote--------------------- "...Is it the last field that is filled out? If so, this occurrs when the field data has not been "committed" by clicking outside of the field, pressing TAB, or pressing ENTER after entering the field data..." Solved! Will be much easier for agents to make print of form and resolve printing problem. It was almost one of the last form fields of the problematique area; possibly or probably the last one created. Appreciated. Robert Richard DRH/HRD Canada _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 7-Apr-1999 19:28:49-GMT,3507;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id NAA25602 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 13:28:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA14916; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 14:23:03 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 7 Apr 1999 14:20:29 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA14566; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 14:20:25 -0500 Message-ID: <00a001be812b$fa1af4c0$1fe62ac2@oemcomputer> From: "Noel Vaillant" To: References: Subject: Re: [PDF] platform stability inside browsers Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 20:21:49 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> > 2. There are as we know two browsers that seem to dominate the Net, > Navigator and IE. At a client's office, I had to install the plugin in both > browsers.... Angus, I have installed both IE5 and Communicator 4.51 on my PC, leaving IE5 as my default browser. Before Upgrading to Reader 4.0, I made sure to uninstall Reader 3.02 (just the Reader, I left Exchange and Distller) Then I Installed Reader 4.0. It works pretty well with both browsers now, where pdf files get embedded in the browser window as expected. The only problems I may have sometimes are: 1. The odd blank page. Particularly when the pdf file sits on my personal web server, very rare otherwise... 2. The odd missing characters...which may occur when you have several pdf documents opened at once (say 1 in IE5 and another in Reader 4.0 itself) This problem is very rare, now that I upgraded to Reader 4.0 3. The main problem I think are hyperlinks to external documents which do not function properly in my experience: the hyperlink will succesfully take you to your destination but, when pressing the 'Back' button of the browser navigation bar, the browser will only take you back to the beginning of your pdf document, as opposed to where you found the hyperlink. This problem happens everytime you try it with IE5. Netscape it seems, does the right thing, but not always (I think the size of files have something to do with it). Last thing, in my experience, installing Reader 4.0 after your browsers does everything you need in terms of plug-ins. If you still need a fix, I have been told you need to put nppdf32.dll in those locations: ...\Netscape\Communicator\Program\Plugins ..\Adobe\Acrobat4.0\Reader\browser I d be happy to know the equivalent of nppdf32.dll for IE5... Hope this helps. Regards. Noel. _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 7-Apr-1999 19:42:53-GMT,5103;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id NAA25944 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 13:42:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA16528; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 14:36:13 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 7 Apr 1999 14:33:03 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA16170; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 14:32:59 -0500 Message-ID: <01BE810B.74E6AAD0.David_Tamburello@mazer.com> From: Dave Tamburello To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Acrobat 4.0 - Where's the graphic selection tool Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 15:29:40 -0400 Organization: Mazer Corporation X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> I just finished delivering a beta training run with a partner of ours who participates(d) in the Stout beta. If you think the hidden buttons are going to cause a problem for tech support, wait until Exchange, excuse me, Acrobat (full), is released and people start playing with the "touch-up object tool". I'm really glad to have the functionality, but the last draft of the user docs covered just enough to raise a bunch of new questions once the product is used in the real world, as in, "Some images open in PhotoShop over a full page white background which has to be cropped which then places the graphic at 0,0 when you're back in Acrobat so you have to reposition but then some graphics are resized without user intervention when edited so then how do I get information on the proper dimensions so I can fix that so then.. (inhale)" I really appreciate the functionality, but a few more pages of documentation would reduce the cost to the channel. Get your support scripts ready folks. David M.Tamburello Training Specialist Mazer e-Publishing Grand Rapids, MI 49546 (616)285-3900 ext. 232 (616)285-3950 FAX Ask me about Acrobat 4.0 training! -----Original Message----- From: Tom Thiersch [SMTP:thiersch@env-sol.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 1999 2:45 PM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] Acrobat 4.0 - Where's the graphic selection tool <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> At a recent Acrobat 4 presentation that I attended, I raised this issue with the presenters offline, and their explanation was that all of the Tools can be accessed via keyboard shortcuts ("V", in the case of the text selection tools), so a menu for Tools "isn't needed". This is, of course, wrong-thinking, but that seems to be the party line. There is at least one glaring flaw in this argument: If you are filling in a form, or using the Touch Up Text tool, the keyboard shortcuts are worse than worthless. The fact that the shortcuts are completely undocumented in the on-line Help for the Reader just makes things that much worse, and will lead to a lot of confusion for novice users who are accustomed to simple, industry-standard menus. This will, in turn, generate more calls to the help desks of companies who produce PDF-based products. And the people (like many of us who participate in this List) who have to answer those support lines can't even say "[Please] RTFM" in this case. Arrghh! Tom Thiersch At 09:59 AM 4/7/99 -0700, you wrote: > >> What's missing, and is a gross violation of commonly-accepted GUI >> principles, is that there is no way to select the various >> tools from the >> menu bar. > > > >> Tom Thiersch > >Yes... we had noticed that too. > >This flouting of good GUI design is really going to irritate those shops >(like mine) that use Exchange in a production environment. We have relied >on many a keyboard shortcut in Exchange 3.01, and I'm very, very sorry to >see so many functions seemingly so unreachable in 4.0! Not only will be >have to retrain (which is OK, and to be expected) but our productivity will >go down (which is NOT OK and was NOT expected). > >Duff Johnson >President, Document Solutions, Inc. >http://www.document-solutions.com _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 7-Apr-1999 21:33:26-GMT,2246;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id PAA29167 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 15:33:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA29184; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 16:27:48 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 7 Apr 1999 16:25:09 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA28871; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 16:25:03 -0500 Message-ID: <00bc01be813c$fa669400$466564c8@ntplx.net> From: "Michael Abrahamson" To: References: <01BE801C.687043A0.David_Tamburello@mazer.com> Subject: [PDF] Fuzzy graphics Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 17:24:10 -0400 Organization: Liturgical Publications MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> I have been testing the effectiveness of Distilling Word 97 docs to PDF via PDFMaker with Distiller (using Distiller Assistant's driver since my test printer is a non-PS HP Laserjet). I have encountered a problem with scanned .tifs (I believe) where there is a "halo" of fuzzy background "noise" surrounding the graphic. We are planning to upgrade to Acrobat 4 upon its much anticipated release (let's go Acrobat!) and I was wondering if this problem has been addressed? Mike Abrahamson Liturgical Publications _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 7-Apr-1999 21:34:42-GMT,2225;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id PAA29209 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 15:34:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA29567; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 16:31:02 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 7 Apr 1999 16:29:47 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA29356; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 16:29:44 -0500 Message-ID: <370BCBAE.E95A6129@muc.de> Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 23:18:38 +0200 From: Thomas Merz X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: PDF-List Subject: [PDF] Re: Acrobat Security Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> > Could somebody give me a quick overview of how good/bad the security > feature is in Acrobat. > Has anything changed since 1995? > Is it 40-bit encryption? > Any info would be greatly appreciated. > > I've already searched: > 1) searched the listserv archive > 2) Acrobat Classroom in a Book > 3) Merz's book on Web Publishing and Acrobat > 4) the Acrobat Online Guide The section on PDF encryption in my book talks about the 40-bit encryption strength (read: weakness) of Acrobat 3. This hasn't changed in Acrobat 4. Thomas _______________________________________________________________ Thomas Merz, Munich tm@muc.de http://www.ifconnection.de/~tm -- pdfmark Primer -- PDFlib -- Ghostscript manual -- jpeg2ps -- _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 7-Apr-1999 21:41:19-GMT,2159;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id PAA29396 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 15:41:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA30232; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 16:36:43 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 7 Apr 1999 16:35:36 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA30057; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 16:35:33 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990407173648.0096fcb0@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 17:36:48 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] Acrobat 4.0 - Where's the graphic selection tool In-Reply-To: <8525674C.004F10DA.00@whqntse1.infinium.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> > >I just downloaded the "official" release and I can't seem to find the graphic >selection tool. >The text selection tool is visible and when I check the online documentation, it >does >reference the graphic tool. Am I missing something? Has anyone been able to use >this tool? > Click and hold on the text tool. All will be revealed. ;-) Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 7-Apr-1999 21:45:39-GMT,2154;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id PAA29498 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 15:45:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA30839; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 16:41:33 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 7 Apr 1999 16:40:19 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA30687; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 16:40:10 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990407174124.0094e100@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 17:41:24 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: RE: [PDF] Acrobat 4.0 - Where's the graphic selection tool In-Reply-To: <2.2.32.19990407162931.0096a210@env-sol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> > >This particular UI method ("fly-out" or "fold-out" menus accessible only via >the mouse) appears to be unique to Adobe's products -- Corel's too, FWIW. Er, that is to say that Corel's products work this way too. Not that this way of working is unique to Corel's products as well ... diluted uniqueness is no uniqueness at all. ;-) Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 7-Apr-1999 21:46:52-GMT,2867;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id PAA29554 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 15:46:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA31166; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 16:42:58 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 7 Apr 1999 16:41:37 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA30838; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 16:41:33 -0500 From: "Pete Koolish" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Fuzzy graphics Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 14:41:21 -0700 Message-ID: <002101be813f$606ad750$cac8c8c8@netgate.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 In-Reply-To: <00bc01be813c$fa669400$466564c8@ntplx.net> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Usually this is caused by using too high a setting for JPEG compression. Pete ------------------------------------------------------------- Pete Koolish 1036 Whitebick Drive The PDF Group San Jose, CA 95129 pkoolish@pdfgroup.com 408.446.3156 ------------------------------------------------------------- > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com [mailto:owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com]On > Behalf Of Michael Abrahamson > Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 1999 2:24 PM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: [PDF] Fuzzy graphics > > > I have been testing the effectiveness of Distilling Word 97 docs > to PDF via > PDFMaker with Distiller (using Distiller Assistant's driver since my test > printer is a non-PS HP Laserjet). I have encountered a problem > with scanned > .tifs (I believe) where there is a "halo" of fuzzy background "noise" > surrounding the graphic. We are planning to upgrade to Acrobat 4 upon its > much anticipated release (let's go Acrobat!) and I was wondering if this > problem has been addressed? > > Mike Abrahamson > Liturgical Publications > _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 7-Apr-1999 21:49:37-GMT,2660;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id PAA29634 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 15:49:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA31491; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 16:45:14 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 7 Apr 1999 16:44:05 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA31295; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 16:44:01 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Fuzzy graphics Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 22:43:49 +0100 Message-ID: <000401be813f$b932f5c0$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <00bc01be813c$fa669400$466564c8@ntplx.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> > I have been testing the effectiveness of Distilling Word 97 > docs to PDF via > PDFMaker with Distiller (using Distiller Assistant's driver > since my test > printer is a non-PS HP Laserjet). I have encountered a > problem with scanned > .tifs (I believe) where there is a "halo" of fuzzy background "noise" > surrounding the graphic. We are planning to upgrade to > Acrobat 4 upon its > much anticipated release (let's go Acrobat!) and I was > wondering if this > problem has been addressed? The problem may be in your set up of Distiller, rather than a fault. You don't indicate whether you have learned Distiller and set it up carefully after experimentation with your originals, or simply accepted all the defaults - which are designed to make the smallest possible file at the expense of quality. So...what settings are you using for compression and subsampling in Distiller? What sort of originals are being scanned, and at what resolution? Aandi _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 7-Apr-1999 21:52:40-GMT,2171;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id PAA29683 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 15:52:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA31988; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 16:49:05 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 7 Apr 1999 16:47:52 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA31796; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 16:47:49 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990407174904.00979380@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 17:49:04 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: RE: [PDF] Acrobat 4.0 - Where's the graphic selection tool In-Reply-To: <000201be811a$258d42a0$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> >To be fair, along with the new look toolbar came the handy >Adobe trick where a single keyboard character (usually a >letter) selects the major tools. > Seems to be undocumented in the Reader help PDF, though. At least a Find on "keyboard" and a cursory spin through it turned up nothing. Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 7-Apr-1999 22:00:38-GMT,2318;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id QAA29909 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 16:00:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA32591; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 16:53:07 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 7 Apr 1999 16:51:54 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA32339; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 16:51:52 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990407175306.0097fd70@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 17:53:06 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: RE: [PDF] Acrobat 4.0 - Where's the graphic selection tool In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> >it is extending to all its products: You can call out all tools from the >Toolbox with a letter. If you hold your cursor over any tool you can see >what the letter is. To access a hidden tool, Shift + the letter toggles >you through the group. Thus to choose the Text Selection tool in Acrobat >4, type V. Shift + V toggles though the text/graphic selection tools. Control seems to toggle between the two Text selection tools, assuming you've activated one in the first place. Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 7-Apr-1999 22:09:40-GMT,2964;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id QAA00131 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 16:09:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA01244; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 17:04:32 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 7 Apr 1999 17:03:17 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA01084; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 17:03:14 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990407180427.0097fd70@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 18:04:27 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] Fuzzy graphics In-Reply-To: <00bc01be813c$fa669400$466564c8@ntplx.net> References: <01BE801C.687043A0.David_Tamburello@mazer.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> >I have been testing the effectiveness of Distilling Word 97 docs to PDF via >PDFMaker with Distiller (using Distiller Assistant's driver since my test >printer is a non-PS HP Laserjet). I have encountered a problem with scanned >.tifs (I believe) where there is a "halo" of fuzzy background "noise" >surrounding the graphic. We are planning to upgrade to Acrobat 4 upon its >much anticipated release (let's go Acrobat!) and I was wondering if this >problem has been addressed? > Are you, by any chance, using Word's Transparency tool on these graphics? If so, that's likely the problem. Office apps antialias all bitmaps, you have no choice in the matter. Problem is, they antialias, THEN apply the transparency, rather than the other way round a they should be doing. Let's say you have a graphic that includes black text on a white background. You bring it into Word, Word antialiases it (read: blurs), leaving you with black text that has a sort of grayish fringe around it. You apply the transparency tool to the background, Word ceases to display any white pixels, but leaves the grayish fringe around the text. Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 7-Apr-1999 22:09:50-GMT,3280;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id QAA00139 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 16:09:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA01277; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 17:04:52 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 7 Apr 1999 17:03:45 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA01139; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 17:03:43 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 16:38:11 -0500 From: "Rob Domaschuk" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Fuzzy graphics Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id RAA01133 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Mike, as a member of a company that has 2000+ HP printers (all using PCL and not PS language) I am happy to announce that I am fully familiar with your problem. You can still use the 3.01 version of distiller, as long as your users are using Reader 4.0 The major upgrade from our (those of us who use HP products) is the full support for PCL language. Rob Domaschuk Technical Writer, Boise Cascade Office Products 630.773.7101 "To know is not to prove, not to explain. It is to accede to vision. But if we are to have vision, we must learn to participate in the object of vision. The apprenticeship is hard." - Antoine de Saint-Exupéry, _Flight to Arras_ >>> "Michael Abrahamson" 04/07/99 04:24p.m. >>> <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> I have been testing the effectiveness of Distilling Word 97 docs to PDF via PDFMaker with Distiller (using Distiller Assistant's driver since my test printer is a non-PS HP Laserjet). I have encountered a problem with scanned .tifs (I believe) where there is a "halo" of fuzzy background "noise" surrounding the graphic. We are planning to upgrade to Acrobat 4 upon its much anticipated release (let's go Acrobat!) and I was wondering if this problem has been addressed? Mike Abrahamson Liturgical Publications _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 7-Apr-1999 22:47:11-GMT,2488;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id QAA01054 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 16:47:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA04730; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 17:39:27 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 7 Apr 1999 17:37:47 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA04484; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 17:37:44 -0500 X-Sender: prodok@pop.eunet.ch Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19990407100247.00968d10@pop.iglou.com> References: <000001be8078$edf2dd60$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> <3.0.5.32.19990406175238.00857360@pop.iglou.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 20:44:34 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Max Wyss Subject: [PDF] Getting Acrobat 4 (was Plug-ins with Acrobat 4) Cc: Steve Rindsberg Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Steve (and others), I had pretty good experiences getting the Reader 4 from Adobe. Not through the web browser, but directly via an FTP client. Throughput was quite reasonable. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch WWW: http://www.prodok.ch/prodok Bridging the Knowledge Gap ______________________ >BTW, it seems much simpler/more reliable to get Reader 4 from PDFZone than >from Adobe's own site. As in: with IE3 and java scripting turned off, it >seems impossible to get it from Adobe. No problems at PDFZone other than >that my particular age group is excluded from the available choices on the >registration form. > > >Steve Rindsberg _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 7-Apr-1999 22:48:10-GMT,2810;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id QAA01080 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 16:48:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA04722; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 17:39:24 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 7 Apr 1999 17:38:15 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA04562; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 17:38:09 -0500 X-Sender: prodok@pop.eunet.ch Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 00:08:11 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Max Wyss Subject: RE: [PDF] Acrobat 4.0 - Where's the graphic selection tool Cc: Duff Johnson Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Duff, there are always two sides of the medals when the user interface is changed ... you say it. There is now some kind of harmonization between all the Adobe products, which actually makes things easier when more than one product is used. However, there is one feature which is IMHO a real productivity enhancer, and that is the direct keyboard access to almost all the functions in the left side toolbar, by simply pressing one key, such as "H" for Hand, "Z" for Zoom, "F" for Form etc. Just FWIW Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch WWW: http://www.prodok.ch/prodok Bridging the Knowledge Gap ______________________ >This flouting of good GUI design is really going to irritate those shops >(like mine) that use Exchange in a production environment. We have relied >on many a keyboard shortcut in Exchange 3.01, and I'm very, very sorry to >see so many functions seemingly so unreachable in 4.0! Not only will be >have to retrain (which is OK, and to be expected) but our productivity will >go down (which is NOT OK and was NOT expected). > >Duff Johnson _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 7-Apr-1999 23:00:56-GMT,3395;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id RAA01456 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 17:00:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA05817; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 17:48:52 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 7 Apr 1999 17:47:40 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA05658; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 17:47:37 -0500 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19990407224940.0096ae14@env-sol.com> X-Sender: thiersch@env-sol.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 15:49:40 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Tom Thiersch Subject: Re: RE: [PDF] Acrobat 4.0 - Where's the graphic selection tool Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id RAA05654 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Steve, All of those apps you mentioned, with the sole exception of Quark, are Adobe products, so it's not at all surprising that they share the same design flaw. re: >I'm not sure whose standards of GUI design you're quoting Here's the standard that applies to 90%+ of all PCs: "The Windows Interface: An Application Design Guide", Microsoft Press, 1992 * General Issues # Proper keyboard support "All menu commands need to be keyboard accessible (with either mnemonic keys or keyboard shortcuts), and all major system commands should be available from a menu. Remember, it's not the Windows interface that's keyboard-unfriendly, it's the GUI designer of a particular application." I consider tool selection to be a "major command" in this context; even though you may have to use a mouse after the tool has been selected, it is almost always a lot faster to select the tool via the keyboard. Tom Thiersch At 09:22 AM 4/7/99 +0100, you wrote: > >I'm not sure whose standards of GUI design you're quoting but in the >desktop applications I've been using for the past decade (QuarkXPress, >PageMaker, Illustrator, Freehand, Photoshop, etc.) there are many ways of >picking tools, and they haven't always been available from the menu. > >However, beginning with Photoshop, Adobe has established a standard which >it is extending to all its products: You can call out all tools from the >Toolbox with a letter. If you hold your cursor over any tool you can see >what the letter is. To access a hidden tool, Shift + the letter toggles >you through the group. Thus to choose the Text Selection tool in Acrobat >4, type V. Shift + V toggles though the text/graphic selection tools. > >Best, > >^Steve^ _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 7-Apr-1999 23:17:32-GMT,3089;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id RAA01876 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 17:17:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA07979; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 18:11:14 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 7 Apr 1999 18:09:52 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA07801; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 18:09:49 -0500 Message-id: Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 15:14:53 +0100 Subject: Re(2): RE: [PDF] Acrobat 4.0 - Where's the graphic selection tool To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Cc: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: werner@rapidgraphics.com (Steve Werner) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> pdf@lists.pdfzone.com writes: >Here's the standard that applies to 90%+ of all PCs: > >"The Windows Interface: An Application Design Guide", Microsoft Press, >1992 > >* General Issues > # Proper keyboard support > "All menu commands need to be keyboard accessible (with either >mnemonic >keys or keyboard shortcuts), and all major system commands should be >available from a menu. Remember, it's not the Windows interface that's >keyboard-unfriendly, it's the GUI designer of a particular application." > >I consider tool selection to be a "major command" in this context; even >though you may have to use a mouse after the tool has been selected, it is >almost always a lot faster to select the tool via the keyboard. Well, as I mentioned, Adobe does let you pick tools in Acrobat 4 in a keyboard-accessible manner. You can call *any* tool with either a single letter or Shift + a letter. Furthermore, it's consistent between Adobe products...for those who also live in Photoshop, Illustrator, etc. It's just different than in Acrobat 3. In that version some tools were accessible by keyboard (if you managed to learn Command/Control-Option/Alt-4 to select text or Command/Control-Option/Alt-5 to select graphics. But there was no way to select some essential tools like the Hand tool or the Zoom tool. In Acrobat 4, now there is. What I don't see the necessity of is cluttering up the menus with the same tools that are in a Toolbar. In the end, perhaps we can just agree to disagree. Adobe has been standardizing its interface over the past three years, and I don't see that changing in the near future. Best, ^Steve^ _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 7-Apr-1999 23:18:56-GMT,2217;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id RAA01904 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 17:18:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA08538; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 18:15:55 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 7 Apr 1999 18:14:45 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA08416; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 18:14:42 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Acrobat 4.0 - Where's the graphic selection tool Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 00:14:34 +0100 Message-ID: <000601be814c$66908f00$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19990407174904.00979380@pop.iglou.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> > >To be fair, along with the new look toolbar came the handy > >Adobe trick where a single keyboard character (usually a > >letter) selects the major tools. > > > > Seems to be undocumented in the Reader help PDF, though. At > least a Find > on "keyboard" and a cursory spin through it turned up nothing. Sounds a serious omission, but beginners are actually more likely to discover it that experienced users! Why? Because the shortcuts are shown in the tool-tips... Aandi _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 7-Apr-1999 23:52:45-GMT,2644;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id RAA02614 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 17:52:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA11170; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 18:41:34 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 7 Apr 1999 18:39:41 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA10990; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 18:39:38 -0500 X-Sender: prodok@pop.eunet.ch Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 00:50:37 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Max Wyss Subject: RE: [PDF] Form Fields & Printing. Cc: robert.richard@hrdc-drhc.gc.ca Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Robert (and others), There is a way to solve these "last filled out field does not get printed" problem. When you put a well noticeable and easy to reach "Print Me" button on your form, your users will use that button, and this automatically solves the problem because by clicking on that button, they leave the text field and therefore "commit"... Hope, this can help. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch WWW: http://www.prodok.ch/prodok Bridging the Knowledge Gap ______________________ >"...Is it the last field that is filled out? If so, this occurrs when the >field >data has not been "committed" by clicking outside of the field, pressing >TAB, or pressing ENTER after entering the field data..." > >Solved! Will be much easier for agents to make print of form and resolve >printing problem. It was almost one of the last form fields of the >problematique area; possibly or probably the last one created. > >Appreciated. > >Robert Richard _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 8-Apr-1999 6:51:08-GMT,2375;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id AAA11227 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 00:51:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA10366; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 01:44:02 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 8 Apr 1999 01:40:48 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA10159; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 01:40:46 -0500 Message-ID: <370C506A.35363EEE@pacific.net.sg> Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 14:44:58 +0800 From: jo leong X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com, pdfdev@lists.pdf.com Subject: [PDF] populating forms from an external database file Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Hi, I'm looking for a way of populating Acrobat form fields with data from either an Access database file, excel spreadsheet or even a delimited text file. Does anyone know of any plugins or java scripts out there that will help me to do so ? I'm also trying to find a way to attach images to form fields. It seems that the only way to do so is to create a PDF of an image, and use that as the button picture on a form. Is there another way of doing this ? I'm thinking of creating an application that can automatically pull out information from a 'database' that contains text, graphics and even sound and video. I guess I would also need to find a way of dynamically assigning links to video and sound files. I'm trying to avoid having to write code in VB or C to achieve this. Would appreciate any responses. Thanks Josephine Leong _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 8-Apr-1999 6:59:54-GMT,2820;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id AAA11376 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 00:59:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA11089; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 01:55:11 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 8 Apr 1999 01:52:39 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA10912; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 01:52:38 -0500 X-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: mahmw@mail.hunterlink.net.au Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <370C506A.35363EEE@pacific.net.sg> Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 16:52:48 +1000 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Richard McLean Subject: Re: [PDF] populating forms from an external database file Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> ><- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> ><- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> > >Hi, > >I'm looking for a way of populating Acrobat form fields with data from >either an Access database file, excel spreadsheet or even a delimited >text file. > >Does anyone know of any plugins or java scripts out there that will help >me to do so ? > >I'm also trying to find a way to attach images to form fields. It seems >that the only way to do so is to create a PDF of an image, and use that >as the button picture on a form. Is there another way of doing this ? >I'm thinking of creating an application that can automatically pull out >information from a 'database' that contains text, graphics and even >sound and video. I guess I would also need to find a way of dynamically >assigning links to video and sound files. I know this may be off base from where you are thinking but have you thought about using PHP? There is a library that can be compiled for use with PHP to create PDFs. Check out http://www.php3.com and do a search for PDF. It would be a bit of a wacky solution, but I think it could work. PHP can talk to a number of SQL databases. kind regards, Richard McLean _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 8-Apr-1999 7:30:11-GMT,2017;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id BAA11892 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 01:30:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA12957; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 02:25:02 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 8 Apr 1999 02:23:51 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA12873; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 02:23:50 -0500 Message-ID: <50AFCE9910E9D211982E00608CF26D1E61CE@mail.roundtable.com.au> From: Karl De Abrew To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] populating forms from an external database file Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 17:19:46 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Hi there, >I'm looking for a way of populating Acrobat form fields with data from >either an Access database file, excel spreadsheet or even a delimited >text file. I believe that Acrobat 4.0 will offer you an OLE api for the forms functions which will allow you to do this quite easily from MS Access (assuming that you have the full Acrobat). I hope this helps. regards, Karl De Abrew karl@PlanetPDF.com Planet PDF - Code Cuts, AcroBuddies and PDF Store http://www.PlanetPDF.com _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 8-Apr-1999 8:24:40-GMT,3292;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id CAA12982 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 02:24:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA16192; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 03:18:22 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 8 Apr 1999 03:16:58 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA16037; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 03:16:57 -0500 X-Sender: prodok@pop.eunet.ch Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <370C506A.35363EEE@pacific.net.sg> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 09:36:34 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Max Wyss Subject: Re: [PDF] populating forms from an external database file Cc: jo leong Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Jo, it might be worthwile having a look at the Portable Document Format Reference, available from the developer section on the Adobe website (the newest update covering Acrobat 4 may not yet be there). In that document have a special look at the FDF specification. There are some possibilities to bring images into a form field through the FDF. However, preparing the data so that it can be included may need some programming which may be beyond the capabilities of the database system. About the video and sound files, I would have to check the specifications as well. Hope, this can help. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch WWW: http://www.prodok.ch/prodok Bridging the Knowledge Gap ______________________ >Hi, > >I'm looking for a way of populating Acrobat form fields with data from >either an Access database file, excel spreadsheet or even a delimited >text file. > >Does anyone know of any plugins or java scripts out there that will help >me to do so ? > >I'm also trying to find a way to attach images to form fields. It seems >that the only way to do so is to create a PDF of an image, and use that >as the button picture on a form. Is there another way of doing this ? >I'm thinking of creating an application that can automatically pull out >information from a 'database' that contains text, graphics and even >sound and video. I guess I would also need to find a way of dynamically >assigning links to video and sound files. > >I'm trying to avoid having to write code in VB or C to achieve this. > >Would appreciate any responses. Thanks > >Josephine Leong _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 8-Apr-1999 11:02:35-GMT,2530;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id FAA15753 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 05:02:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id GAA25361; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 06:01:54 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 8 Apr 1999 05:57:47 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA24979; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 05:57:45 -0500 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 09:48:29 +0100 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Cc: pdfdev@lists.pdfzone.com From: David R Evans Subject: [PDFdev] Re: [PDF] populating forms from an external database file In-Reply-To: <370C506A.35363EEE@pacific.net.sg> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Version 3.03a Sender: owner-pdfdev@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdfdev@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVES: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> In message <370C506A.35363EEE@pacific.net.sg>, jo leong wrote: >I'm looking for a way of populating Acrobat form fields with data from >either an Access database file, excel spreadsheet or even a delimited >text file. > >Does anyone know of any plugins or java scripts out there that will help >me to do so ? Yes, our Options plug-in does this using a delimited text file, which could come from Excel. See our web site for details or contact me privately. David --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dr David R Evans Telephone: (+44) 115 9860048 / 9514230 Merlin Open Systems Facsimile: (+44) 115 9860048 P O Box 230 E-mail: dre@merlin-os.co.uk NOTTINGHAM WWW: http://www.merlin-os.co.uk/ NG2 1LJ, UK Acrobat resellers, specialists in Adobe Acrobat plug-ins and electronic publishing software, publishers of Acrobatics _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 8-Apr-1999 11:07:41-GMT,2513;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id FAA15827 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 05:07:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA25238; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 06:00:12 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 8 Apr 1999 05:57:47 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA24967; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 05:57:45 -0500 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 09:48:29 +0100 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Cc: pdfdev@lists.pdfzone.com From: David R Evans Subject: Re: [PDF] populating forms from an external database file In-Reply-To: <370C506A.35363EEE@pacific.net.sg> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Version 3.03a Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> In message <370C506A.35363EEE@pacific.net.sg>, jo leong wrote: >I'm looking for a way of populating Acrobat form fields with data from >either an Access database file, excel spreadsheet or even a delimited >text file. > >Does anyone know of any plugins or java scripts out there that will help >me to do so ? Yes, our Options plug-in does this using a delimited text file, which could come from Excel. See our web site for details or contact me privately. David --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dr David R Evans Telephone: (+44) 115 9860048 / 9514230 Merlin Open Systems Facsimile: (+44) 115 9860048 P O Box 230 E-mail: dre@merlin-os.co.uk NOTTINGHAM WWW: http://www.merlin-os.co.uk/ NG2 1LJ, UK Acrobat resellers, specialists in Adobe Acrobat plug-ins and electronic publishing software, publishers of Acrobatics _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 8-Apr-1999 11:22:20-GMT,2029;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id FAA16100 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 05:22:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA26327; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 06:17:30 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 8 Apr 1999 06:16:16 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA26198; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 06:16:15 -0500 Message-ID: <00EF773582D6D111939D00A0C9A92F64037DCA9B@il0015exch003u.ih.lucent.com> From: "Farrell, Kevin (Kevin)" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] Acrobat 4.0 - Where's the graphic selection tool Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 06:16:08 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Good grief! Enough already on this topic!? Can we move on? Or possibly build a separate distribution list for "graphic selection tool." How about this wild idea? Once we all actually receive the new software, read all of the documentation, (and do some hands-on testing/evaluation) we should THEN post questions to this list. All of these theories as to how software should be built blah blah blah are filling up my email and its beginning to get annoying. Sincerely, Kevin _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 8-Apr-1999 17:10:14-GMT,3237;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id LAA24364 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 11:10:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA25212; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 12:02:44 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 8 Apr 1999 11:58:17 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA24637; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 11:58:07 -0500 From: Karen_L_Mibus@keybank.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: KEYCORP To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <8525674D.005D047E.00@keybank.com> Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 12:57:40 -0400 Subject: [PDF] Slow Download of Reader 4.0 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Has anyone experienced problems with downloading Acrobat Reader 4.0 English for Win95/NT? Here is the story of my client's recent problems. Any insight or descriptions of comparable experiences will be greatly appreciated: Yesterday, my client attempted to download Acrobat Reader 4.0 English for Win95/NT from the Adobe site without success and then from the PDFZone site with limited success. He has IE 5 and a US Robotics external 56K V90 modem. I checked all his settings, including the ISP access phone number, and everything appears to be ok. He can only connect at 45K and when we tried to download the Reader from Adobe, IE 5 returned a page suggesting connections errors that prevent processing the request. I tried the alternative download site, but the same thing happened. I tried both approaches repeatedly, but received the same error message. We went to PDFZone to attempt to download the Reader 4.0 around 5:45 pm EDT. As the file started to download, it only did so at a couple of bytes per second, requiring a 1 hr 15 minute wait. Today the download time from the PDFZone site required a 30 minute wait with a 28.8 modem and IE 3 (different PC, same ISP). The Adobe site required a 45 minute wait, but was obviously working. I know that the Reader is a 5MB file and so will take time to download. However, the download process seems awfully slow. My client is concerned that his customers will get frustrated if they experience slow and complicated downloads and all they need the Reader for is to print a two-page file (see www.broadwayautoclinic.com, click Auto Care Log). I'm hoping that members of this list can help me form a more persuasive argument to the contrary. TIA! --Karen _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 8-Apr-1999 17:29:30-GMT,2114;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id LAA24935 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 11:29:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA27394; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 12:24:19 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 8 Apr 1999 12:22:57 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA27260; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 12:22:56 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC2C706823FD211963400805FBEDF4E4F78B6@gsomail> From: "Perry, Bob" To: PDF List Subject: [PDF] Creating and saving the mydata.fdf file Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 12:22:38 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> I am creating online forms for employees to create their own Personal Field Name files. I would like the Submit button to save the mydata.fdf file to the users hard drive in . I know this is not possible in Acrobat 3.0, but does anyone know if 4.0 will let me add an "Export Form Data" action that would let me specify the directory to save it to? If this is not possible, I will submit the data to the server and then via ASP query the server to create an fdf file which I can then save to the users hard drive. Its a little more complicated but it works. Does anyone have a better solution? Thanks gang, -Bob Perry -ASA Inc _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 8-Apr-1999 17:46:03-GMT,3089;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id LAA25481 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 11:46:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA28905; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 12:40:40 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 8 Apr 1999 12:39:14 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA28764; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 12:39:10 -0500 Message-ID: <00d301be81e6$89476010$45432e9c@pdfzone.net> From: "Thomas Ziegelbauer" To: References: <8525674D.005D047E.00@keybank.com> Subject: Re: [PDF] Slow Download of Reader 4.0 Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 12:37:54 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> I'll try to answer your questions the best I can. 1) Adobe...well we've heard nothing but complaints about Adobe's website and the attempted download of the reader. In our attempts to keep the most current versions on our mirror of the files I've personally had an *extremely* difficult time downloading also. 2) Adobe's problem stem from the same ones that we are currently having here although not to the extremes of Adobe. This is tax season so...everyone in the U.S. and all those now coming back to the site to grab the new final version of the reader have seen an increase of about 20-40% increasing our daily traffic since Monday. 3) Recommendations: Attempt downloading the program during non-peak hours - 7pm - 7am or weekends or after receiving the file setup a location for your clients to come download it from. Unfortunately for new 4.0 users because of the increased traffic during tax season it makes downloading 4.0 difficult if not impossible if you are attempting to download from adobe. 4) Another option would be to download 3.02 since 4.0 doesn't include search and we host the 3.02 readers at a separate location and until Acrobat 4.0 comes out your clients won't be able to take advantage of most of the 4.0 exclusive capabilities until such time. 5) Perhaps your client should download the reader...then redistribute it to his customers? Thomas Ziegelbauer Web Administrator PDFzone.COM _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 8-Apr-1999 18:43:33-GMT,2997;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id MAA26880 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 12:43:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA01382; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 13:37:06 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 8 Apr 1999 13:35:16 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA01143; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 13:35:15 -0500 Message-Id: <4.1.19990408203040.018423e0@master.publix.de> X-Sender: publix%publix.de@master.publix.de (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 20:35:00 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: publix team Subject: [PDF] Strange font thing In-Reply-To: <199903311848.MAA01780@everglades.binc.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Hy Folks! I need help with this one. I have this fontproblem on my Windows workstation (I have similar things happen on our mac though). What happen is that I have about 10 ps files which distill perfectly. BUT! When I copy the ps-files into one document to then distill the whole thing the fonts partly get messed up. EVEN opening the first pdf to then add the others with exchange messes up the file ( not a bad a the other method). Can anyone help with this (Please CC any reply to daniel@publix.de) Also I have this problem on my Mac and I think its similar to the PC-Problem. What happens is I place open a 4-page PDF-file in Presswise. I then print the pages to a PS-file (all I did was add cropmarks). Now - when I output the pages separately everything is fine. When I output the pages at once (that is make only one PS-File) the fonts partly get messed up. What can I do about this ??? It's Presswise 3.02 and Laserwriter 8.61. Please CC any reply to daniel@publix.de Daniel -----------PUBLIX------------- | Phone: ++49-30-345 50 45 What we can`t do - Nobody can | Fax: ++49-30-345 50 35 What we don`t have - You don`t need | mailto:publix@publix.de -----------PUBLIX------------- | http://www.publix.de service bureau - dtp - design | ......always trying to help advertisement - image manipulation | never to be taken serious ! _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 8-Apr-1999 18:57:40-GMT,1978;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id MAA27213 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 12:57:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA03170; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 13:54:05 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 8 Apr 1999 13:52:47 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA03016; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 13:52:46 -0500 Content-return: allowed Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 11:53:24 -0700 From: "Cutler, Wendy MHR:EX" Subject: [PDF] No 4.0 Search? was Slow Download of Reader 4.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-id: <2B38D2AA1790D1119BB200805F1529E801523A84@jet.bcsc.gov.bc.ca> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> -----Original Message----- Thomas Ziegelbauer [mailto:taz@pdfzone.com] wrote: 4.0 doesn't include search Why is there no search? Is it replaced with something equally functional? * ^ * ^ * Wendy Cutler, Project Co-ordinator, Application Devl & Support ITB, Ministry of Human Resources (604) 660-1591 > mailto:Wendy.Cutler@gems2.gov.bc.ca from OV: EXCH01(wcutler) _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 8-Apr-1999 19:03:27-GMT,1967;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id NAA27396 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 13:03:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA03663; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 13:58:30 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 8 Apr 1999 13:57:19 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA03494; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 13:57:18 -0500 From: robert.richard@hrdc-drhc.gc.ca X-Internal-ID: 370BBBD700002725 Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 14:53:36 -0400 Message-ID: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Form Fields & Printing. X-Incognito-SN: 1395 X-Incognito-Version: 4.25.361 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> PDFZone, George Johnson wrote---------- "...A common solution is to provide a "Print" button which is programmed to print the document. When the user clicks the Print button, the data in the field is committed and it should print..." Furthermore, could I make the print button visible to agents in telecentre but invisible to printer when printing paper copy? Again, they use Adobe Reader 3.01. Robert Richard DRH/HRD Canada _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 8-Apr-1999 19:21:55-GMT,2722;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id NAA27861 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 13:21:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA05443; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 14:16:50 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 8 Apr 1999 14:15:36 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA05312; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 14:15:33 -0500 Message-ID: <01BE81D2.21438160.David_Tamburello@mazer.com> From: Dave Tamburello To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] No 4.0 Search? was Slow Download of Reader 4.0 Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 15:11:50 -0400 Organization: Mazer Corporation X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Wendy, No equivalent functionality is included. A $15 dollar CD will be available later for those who want 4 with search. Rumours are currently circulating about the reason why. The only one confirmed by Adobe is that the size of the software has grown so much that a download would be impractical. This seems strange when MS and game companies offer downloads of 20+ meg. The other theory is a licensing deal with Verity, the author of the search plug-in, requires the new CD-based release. Word is that it will still be freely distributable, once you have a copy. Adobe needs to let us know what is going on with this soon. If you distribute via CD, as a surprising number of enterprise customers still prefer to do, you want reader+search and you want it now. David M.Tamburello Training Specialist Mazer e-Publishing Grand Rapids, MI 49546 (616)285-3900 ext. 232 (616)285-3950 FAX Ask me about Acrobat 4.0 training! Why is there no search? Is it replaced with something equally functional? * ^ * ^ * Wendy Cutler, Project Co-ordinator, Application Devl & Support ITB, Ministry of Human Resources (604) 660-1591 > mailto:Wendy.Cutler@gems2.gov.bc.ca from OV: EXCH01(wcutler) _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 8-Apr-1999 19:29:33-GMT,1990;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id NAA28057 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 13:29:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA06312; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 14:25:00 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 8 Apr 1999 14:23:54 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA06172; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 14:23:53 -0500 From: "George Johnson" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Form Fields & Printing. Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 12:24:01 -0700 Message-ID: <000001be81f5$5b8d4c70$04e78e8c@geo_ws1.u.washington.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> > Furthermore, could I make the print button visible to agents in > telecentre > but invisible to printer when printing paper copy? Again, they use Adobe > Reader 3.01. > > Robert Richard Yes. Just select "Don't Print" for the button when creating it in Exchange. _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 8-Apr-1999 19:33:07-GMT,1747;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id NAA28171 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 13:33:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA06685; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 14:29:03 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 8 Apr 1999 14:27:52 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA06561; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 14:27:51 -0500 From: "Gary Weimer (CINFIN)" To: Subject: [PDF] Acrobat and TIFF w/JBIG compression Message-ID: <0039010006894529000002L192*@MHS> Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 15:33:31 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id OAA06556 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Does anyone have any information (or experience) involving the conversion of TIFF images using JBIG compression into Acrobat? Thanks, Gary Weimer, CDIA _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 8-Apr-1999 19:35:43-GMT,2211;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id NAA28206 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 13:35:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA07046; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 14:31:23 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 8 Apr 1999 14:30:18 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA06877; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 14:30:17 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990408153129.008534b0@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 15:31:29 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: RE: [PDF] Acrobat 4.0 - Where's the graphic selection tool In-Reply-To: <000601be814c$66908f00$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> References: <3.0.5.32.19990407174904.00979380@pop.iglou.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> >Sounds a serious omission, but beginners are actually more likely >to discover it that experienced users! Why? Because the shortcuts >are shown in the tool-tips... > Yes, I finally got the bright notion of *looking* and saw that. That's the trouble with GUIs. Sometimes you have to look at them to figure out what's going on. Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 8-Apr-1999 20:46:04-GMT,2330;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id OAA00120 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 14:46:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA13124; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 15:39:13 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 8 Apr 1999 15:37:08 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA12870; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 15:37:05 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 16:37:39 -0400 Message-ID: <000B8580.C21395@hearst.com> From: ksandler@hearst.com (Kathy Sandler) Subject: [PDF] Publishers on PDF To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Cc: nwintringham@imageaxis.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Dear PDF Zone Mailing List, I've been lurking on the list for the past 2 days and I'm not sure this is the right place, but I'll ask: I'm helping to put together a panel of PDF experts for a group called Women In Production (www.wip.org). It's an association of graphic arts professionals (men and women) based in NYC. For the panel, we are looking for magazine publishers who use PDF for digital ads, outputting files, archiving, Web repurposing, etc. And we need a moderator (ideally not a manufacturer) to put it all in perspective. The lunch program is for June 3 at the Loews Hotel in NYC. We're also looking for sponsors. Please respond to me directly at ksandler@hearst.com. Thanks, Kathy Sandler Mgr. of Training and Info. Svcs., Publishing Technology Dept., Hearst Magazines and WIP Ex Officio 1998-1999 _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 8-Apr-1999 21:37:22-GMT,3433;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id PAA01506 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 15:37:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA17648; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 16:31:22 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 8 Apr 1999 16:28:22 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA17364; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 16:28:20 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990408172932.008ac470@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 17:29:32 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] Slow Download of Reader 4.0 In-Reply-To: <8525674D.005D047E.00@keybank.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Haven't a clue what MSIE5's problem might be, other than it's from MS and it's new. Maybe take two service packs and call Dr. Bill in the morning? ;-) > We went to PDFZone to attempt to download the Reader 4.0 around 5:45 pm EDT. > As the file started to download, it only did so at a couple of bytes per > second, requiring a 1 hr 15 minute wait. Today the download time from the > PDFZone site required a 30 minute wait with a 28.8 modem and IE 3 (different > PC, same ISP). The Adobe site required a 45 minute wait, but was obviously > working. > 30 minutes for 5mb at 28.8 doesn't seem unreasonable to me. 28,800 bits per second, figure ten bits per byte in modemspeak, or 2880 bytes per second, 172,800 bytes per minute. 5 million (and a meg in compuspeak is more than a million in humanspeak) divided by 172800 is roughly 29 minutes. IOW, you seem to have run into that rare case where the modem actually delivers something like its rated speed. Probably equally relevant: downloading files over the net is a lot like watering a garden. How fast you get it done depends on the diameter of the hose (your modem/net connection speed less any delays introduced along the way) AND on how much water the faucet the hose is attached to can put out (the server handing you the file and its pipe to the net). To make matters worse, in this scenario, you and everybody else on the block has to share the same spigot. The server doesn't feed you the file in an uninterrupted stream then turn to the next supplicant, it gives you a little data, gives me some, gives everybody else some in turn, then comes round to you again. Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 8-Apr-1999 21:51:53-GMT,1816;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id PAA01938 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 15:51:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA18858; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 16:46:01 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 8 Apr 1999 16:44:15 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA18703; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 16:44:11 -0500 Message-ID: <004601be8208$c1132840$45432e9c@pdfzone.net> From: "Thomas Ziegelbauer" To: References: <3.0.5.32.19990408172932.008ac470@pop.iglou.com> Subject: Re: [PDF] Slow Download of Reader 4.0 Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 16:42:51 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Steve it's so true...but I'd use the sprinkler analogy instead of a hose. ;) Thomas Ziegelbauer Web Administrator PDFzone.COM _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 8-Apr-1999 22:16:19-GMT,3104;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id QAA02582 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 16:16:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA20938; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 17:09:44 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 8 Apr 1999 17:08:28 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA20807; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 17:08:27 -0500 X-Sender: prodok@pop.eunet.ch Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3FC2C706823FD211963400805FBEDF4E4F78B6@gsomail> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 23:46:04 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Max Wyss Subject: Re: [PDF] Creating and saving the mydata.fdf file Cc: "Perry, Bob" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Bob, as your users will fill out the form under a web browser with the Acrobat plug-in (otherwise, it would not be an online form would it), they will submit the forms data to your server. Your CGI script then would send the FDF file back to the user. So, if your server software has the ability to copy that file to the appropriate location on the user's harddisk, it would be possible. If you want to directly save the FDF file from the user's session, your user would need the full product; it is not possible to export a FDF to a local disk with the Reader ... neither in Acrobat 3 nor in Acrobat 4. Hope, this can help. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch WWW: http://www.prodok.ch/prodok Bridging the Knowledge Gap ______________________ >I am creating online forms for employees to create their own Personal Field >Name files. I would like the Submit button to save the mydata.fdf file to >the users hard drive in . I know this is not possible in Acrobat 3.0, but >does anyone know if 4.0 will let me add an "Export Form Data" action that >would let me specify the directory to save it to? >If this is not possible, I will submit the data to the server and then via >ASP query the server to create an fdf file which I can then save to the >users hard drive. Its a little more complicated but it works. Does anyone >have a better solution? >Thanks gang, > >-Bob Perry _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 8-Apr-1999 22:17:49-GMT,2213;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id QAA02638 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 16:17:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA20935; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 17:09:41 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 8 Apr 1999 17:08:31 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA20832; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 17:08:30 -0500 X-Sender: prodok@pop.eunet.ch Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 23:57:27 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Max Wyss Subject: RE: [PDF] Form Fields & Printing. Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Robert, the answer is "yes". When you create the form you can specify for every field whether it is printable or not (and whether it is visible, whether it is read-only, which background and foreground color it has, etc.). Hope, this can help. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch WWW: http://www.prodok.ch/prodok Bridging the Knowledge Gap ______________________ > >Furthermore, could I make the print button visible to agents in telecentre >but invisible to printer when printing paper copy? Again, they use Adobe >Reader 3.01. > >Robert Richard _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 9-Apr-1999 0:08:21-GMT,2474;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id SAA05556 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 18:08:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA29756; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 19:02:18 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 8 Apr 1999 18:58:38 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA29351; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 18:58:36 -0500 From: "Eugene Semetsky" To: Subject: [PDF] linking to specific area within PDF file and browser problem Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 09:59:41 +1000 Message-ID: <000801be821b$ddf4fa20$417d11cb@es.aapl.com.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Hi All, 2 questions: (1) Can I link to a specific section in a PDF file using an http link? (2) I'm still having a problem with multiple PDF files linked together. For some reason, the "Go to previous view" doesn't work in the browser when I want to move between different PDF files (it is grayed out). It was suggested this was because I was using an "OPEN FILE" link instead of a "GO TO VIEW" link. However, all the links between different PDFs are "GO TO VIEW" links. The "Go to previous view" button works perfectly when viewing the PDFs NOT in the browser. TIA Eugene Semetsky ps. I'm running Win95, Exchange 3.01 and IE 4.01 --------------------------- Australian Arrow Pty. Ltd. A Yazaki Group Member es@aapl.com.au ext # 807 mciss@alphalink.com.au --------------------------- _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 9-Apr-1999 0:26:18-GMT,2647;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id SAA05998 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 18:26:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA31480; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 19:22:13 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 8 Apr 1999 19:19:35 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA31218; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 19:19:34 -0500 Message-ID: <003c01be821e$0f240080$946864c7@nathan.innosabah.com.my> From: "Nathan Lim" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] Acrobat and TIFF w/JBIG compression Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 08:15:21 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> You may want to search the PDFzone archive for this one. A while back (3 months?) someone was asking about JBIG but he was informed that Acrobat does not support it nor is expected to in the foreseeable future. -----Original Message----- From: Gary Weimer (CINFIN) To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: Friday, April 09, 1999 3:39 AM Subject: [PDF] Acrobat and TIFF w/JBIG compression > ><- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> ><- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> > >Does anyone have any information (or experience) involving the conversion of >TIFF images using JBIG compression into Acrobat? >Thanks, >Gary Weimer, CDIA > >_____________________________________________________________ > > * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * > Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM > < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > > > > _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 9-Apr-1999 0:31:16-GMT,3700;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id SAA06095 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 18:31:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA31944; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 19:27:52 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 8 Apr 1999 19:25:26 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA31711; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 19:25:25 -0500 From: "Stephen M. Aylor" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] No 4.0 Search? was Slow Download of Reader 4.0 Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 17:26:53 -0700 Message-ID: <001301be821f$aab8fe00$0201a8c0@sma> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 In-Reply-To: <01BE81D2.21438160.David_Tamburello@mazer.com> Importance: Normal X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> > Wendy, > No equivalent functionality is included. A $15 dollar CD will be > available > later for those who want 4 with search. Rumours are currently circulating > about the reason why. The only one confirmed by Adobe is that the size of > the software has grown so much that a download would be > impractical. This > seems strange when MS and game companies offer downloads of 20+ meg. The > other theory is a licensing deal with Verity, the author of the search > plug-in, requires the new CD-based release. Word is that it will still be > freely distributable, once you have a copy. Adobe needs to let us > know what > is going on with this soon. If you distribute via CD, as a surprising > number of enterprise customers still prefer to do, you want reader+search > and you want it now. Just returned from an Adobe seminar on the release of the new 4.0 in Irvine, CA. Several questions on the absence of Search were posed. The explanation given, was that they didnt want to: 1. Impair the download distribution method for web users who only used the reader as a plug - in in the browser. 2. Burden their download/ftp servers with the extra time required due to anticipated high level of interest. 3. Figured the only practical applicatiomn of the Search plug-in was for CD distribution and customized pdf apps, and search comes on the Acrobat CD. 4. The Reader and Search "ARE" FREELY re-distributable and I quote "and you don't even have to tell us about it". This was asked in the context of burning your own CD's which would include reader and search. I wanted to ask if we could make the reader + search available for download off one's own site, but I imagine this is not permitted. Though I don't understand what the difference is between that and buring a CD and distributing it freely. Maybe this is old news, maybe not - hope it clears some things up. Steve Aylor Aylor Insurance Agency, Inc. _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 9-Apr-1999 0:46:30-GMT,3532;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id SAA06432 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 18:46:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA00267; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 19:39:13 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 8 Apr 1999 19:36:36 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA32688; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 19:36:35 -0500 From: "Stephen M. Aylor" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] populating forms from an external database file Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 17:38:07 -0700 Message-ID: <001501be8221$3c4a8180$0201a8c0@sma> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 In-Reply-To: <370C506A.35363EEE@pacific.net.sg> Importance: Normal X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Josephine, Since you didnt specify whether you were in a web environment or not, but you mentioned your desire to utilize "plug-ins" and javascript over VB or C++, I will go out on a limb and guess your are. We are successfully running queries against Access, DBF FoxPro, and MS SQL server database back-ends and populating the query results into a Acrobat PDF Form "dynamically" on an IIS/NT server in both Netscape Navigator 4 and IE4 & 5. We're able to do this for fdf file data. As for the Images, sounds and video formats, seems that'd be a whole different animal. Seems you'd have to be able to create pdf dynamically at a pretty low level. Out of my league. If you'd like some assistance with the textual and numeric data out of your db back-end - Id be glad to assits where I can either offline or on the list. All the best, Steve Aylor Aylor Insurance Agency, Inc. > Hi, > > I'm looking for a way of populating Acrobat form fields with data from > either an Access database file, excel spreadsheet or even a delimited > text file. > > Does anyone know of any plugins or java scripts out there that will help > me to do so ? > > I'm also trying to find a way to attach images to form fields. It seems > that the only way to do so is to create a PDF of an image, and use that > as the button picture on a form. Is there another way of doing this ? > I'm thinking of creating an application that can automatically pull out > information from a 'database' that contains text, graphics and even > sound and video. I guess I would also need to find a way of dynamically > assigning links to video and sound files. > > I'm trying to avoid having to write code in VB or C to achieve this. > > Would appreciate any responses. Thanks > > Josephine Leong > _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 9-Apr-1999 0:49:40-GMT,3695;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id SAA06515 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 18:49:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA00600; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 19:43:05 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 8 Apr 1999 19:40:39 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA00352; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 19:40:36 -0500 From: "Stephen M. Aylor" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] populating forms from an external database file Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 17:41:57 -0700 Message-ID: <001601be8221$c5f43480$0201a8c0@sma> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Not really wacky at all. There is a significant amount of benefit my industry would receive from this type of approach (Insurance Forms Population). We're using Allaire's ColdFusion App server though. 2 reasons: Built in support for COM objects (Adobe ActiveX FDF toolkit) Verity 97 Search comes bundled and integrated when one purchases the CF App server(screamin deal) Curious how you'd dynamically determine Video and Graphics files on the fly. Now thats very interesting. Steve Aylor > > > >Hi, > > > >I'm looking for a way of populating Acrobat form fields with data from > >either an Access database file, excel spreadsheet or even a delimited > >text file. > > > >Does anyone know of any plugins or java scripts out there that will help > >me to do so ? > > > >I'm also trying to find a way to attach images to form fields. It seems > >that the only way to do so is to create a PDF of an image, and use that > >as the button picture on a form. Is there another way of doing this ? > >I'm thinking of creating an application that can automatically pull out > >information from a 'database' that contains text, graphics and even > >sound and video. I guess I would also need to find a way of dynamically > >assigning links to video and sound files. > > > I know this may be off base from where you are thinking but have you > thought about using PHP? There is a library that can be compiled for use > with PHP to create PDFs. > > Check out http://www.php3.com and do a search for PDF. > > It would be a bit of a wacky solution, but I think it could work. PHP can > talk to a number of SQL databases. > > > kind regards, > Richard McLean > > _____________________________________________________________ > > * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * > Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM > < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > > > _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 9-Apr-1999 1:01:30-GMT,3529;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id TAA06786 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 19:01:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA01733; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 19:54:12 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 8 Apr 1999 19:50:16 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA01331; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 19:50:15 -0500 Message-ID: <76F37B2B6013D21184E400A02461E5AF014C9950@msexchg1.wcnoc.com> From: Decker Gary E To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] No 4.0 Search? was Slow Download of Reader 4.0 Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 19:50:00 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> > Stephen M. Aylor wrote: > > > Just returned from an Adobe seminar on the release of the new 4.0 in > Irvine, > > CA. Several questions on the absence of Search were posed. The > > explanation given, was that they didnt want to: > > > 1. Impair the download distribution method for web users who only > used > > the reader as a plug - in in the browser. > So put them on different servers...or refer other users to mirror sites to obtain the Reader+Search, and allow those sites to offer downloading. > > 2. Burden their download/ftp servers with the extra time required > due to > > anticipated high level of interest. > True enough. I'd hate to see them burdened any more than they are right now, one might never be able to download the 4.0 Reader. > > 3. Figured the only practical applicatiomn of the Search plug-in was > for CD > > distribution and customized pdf apps, and search comes on the > Acrobat CD. > Say what? I can think of several. And why would it be any different now than with 3.0? > > 4. The Reader and Search "ARE" FREELY re-distributable and I quote > "and you don't even have to tell us about it". This was asked in the context of > > burning your own CD's which would include reader and search. > Depends on what you call "distribution," I suppose. I wonder if they'd have any problem with carrying the installation CD around to 1000 different PCs and installing the Reader+Search. Or, better yet, copying the installation files to the network and letting individuals install it themselves. > I wanted to ask if we could make the reader + search available for download > off one's own site, but I imagine this is not permitted. Though I don't > understand what the difference is between that and buring a CD and > distributing it freely. I don't either...I wonder if anyone could explain this to us? Adobe? Gary E. Decker, IS Analyst WCNOC / Burlington, KS USA Note: Opinions expressed in this forum are my own, and not those of my employer, WCNOC. _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 9-Apr-1999 1:25:33-GMT,3770;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id TAA07316 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 19:25:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA03821; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 20:17:20 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 8 Apr 1999 20:13:09 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA03336; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 20:13:04 -0500 Message-ID: <004101be8226$75faee60$24e62ac2@oemcomputer> From: "Noel Vaillant" To: References: <000801be821b$ddf4fa20$417d11cb@es.aapl.com.au> Subject: Re: [PDF] linking to specific area within PDF file and browser problem Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 02:15:29 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> > 2 questions: > > (1) Can I link to a specific section in a PDF file using an http link? > Very interesting question. I don't know the answer. However, I do have a pdf document (created from Latex>dvips>distiller, for which I have a named area (\hypertarget of hyperref package). If I try to create a hyperlink to it from an html file: click here That seems to fail...at least locally (havent uploaded anything) Will investigate further... Note that click here does work...(obviously) Also, I have managed to access my named area from another pdf file... (\hyperlink of hyperref package) > (2) I'm still having a problem with multiple PDF files linked together. For > some reason, the "Go to previous view" doesn't work in the browser when I > want to move between different PDF files (it is grayed out). It was > suggested this was because I was using an "OPEN FILE" link instead of a "GO > TO VIEW" link. However, all the links between different PDFs are "GO TO > VIEW" links. > To have a common basis for discussion, I suggest you try: http://www.math.uakron.edu/~dpstory/tutorial/pdfmarks/hyper.pdf There are a few hyperlinks to another pdf file on page 35. If I try them, my "Go to previous view" is NOT grayed out (NN or IE) but will only take you to the beginning of your target pdf file... In my understanding, this was expected, since when pdf's are embedded, the "Back" button of browser navigation bar should be used when hyperlinks is external to document. The "go to previous view" of embedded reader is only there for internal hyperlinks (I think). However, If you press on 'Back' button of browser, you will only go back to the beginning your initial pdf document, as opposed to where you found the hyperlink...This is a major flaw, i think. (Note that I have seen Netscape getting it right for small files, but not for the one above) >The "Go to previous view" button works perfectly when viewing > the PDFs NOT in the browser. I would agree with that Regards. Noel. _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 9-Apr-1999 1:54:13-GMT,3815;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id TAA07951 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 19:54:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA06671; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 20:47:56 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 8 Apr 1999 20:43:49 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA06250; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 20:43:46 -0500 From: "Stephen M. Aylor" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] No 4.0 Search? was Slow Download of Reader 4.0 Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 18:45:06 -0700 Message-ID: <001c01be822a$9811e720$0201a8c0@sma> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 In-Reply-To: <76F37B2B6013D21184E400A02461E5AF014C9950@msexchg1.wcnoc.com> Importance: Normal X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> > > > > > Just returned from an Adobe seminar on the release of the new 4.0 in > > Irvine, > > > CA. Several questions on the absence of Search were posed. The > > > explanation given, was that they didnt want to: > > > > > 1. Impair the download distribution method for web users who only > > used > > > the reader as a plug - in in the browser. > > > So put them on different servers...or refer other users to mirror sites > to obtain the Reader+Search, and allow those sites to offer downloading. > > > > 2. Burden their download/ftp servers with the extra time required > > due to > > > anticipated high level of interest. > > > True enough. I'd hate to see them burdened any more than they are right > now, one might never be able to download the 4.0 Reader. > > > > 3. Figured the only practical applicatiomn of the Search plug-in was > > for CD > > > distribution and customized pdf apps, and search comes on the > > Acrobat CD. > > > Say what? I can think of several. And why would it be any different > now than with 3.0? > > > > 4. The Reader and Search "ARE" FREELY re-distributable and I quote > > "and you don't even have to tell us about it". This was asked in the > context of > > > burning your own CD's which would include reader and search. > > > Depends on what you call "distribution," I suppose. I wonder if they'd > have any problem with carrying the installation CD around to 1000 > different PCs and installing the Reader+Search. Or, better yet, copying > the installation files to the network and letting individuals install it > themselves. > > > I wanted to ask if we could make the reader + search available for > download > > off one's own site, but I imagine this is not permitted. Though I > don't > > understand what the difference is between that and buring a CD and > > distributing it freely. > > I don't either...I wonder if anyone could explain this to us? Adobe? You have valid points I agree with them Please dont barbecue the messenger :-) Steve Aylor _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 9-Apr-1999 2:32:12-GMT,3324;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id UAA08698 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 20:32:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA10129; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 21:28:37 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 8 Apr 1999 21:24:42 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA09799; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 21:24:40 -0500 Message-ID: <01BE801C.687043A0.David_Tamburello@mazer.com> From: Dave Tamburello To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Plug-ins with Acrobat 4.0 Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 10:58:29 -0400 Organization: Mazer Corporation X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Michael, The feature is Windows only and requires that your default mail program be MAPI enabled. It is very generic in that it merely pops up a new mail message with your file attached. The documentation recommends customizing through your MAPI mail server. However, the new JavaScript functionality will give you a little more control over the mail function. You can specify to, cc, bcc, subject and even the message body. In addition to sending the PDF, you will be able to send an FDF form or a mail message without any file attachments. David M.Tamburello Training Specialist Mazer e-Publishing Grand Rapids, MI 49546 (616)285-3900 ext. 232 (616)285-3950 FAX Ask me about Acrobat 4.0 training! -----Original Message----- From: Michael Abrahamson [SMTP:mabrahamson@liturgicalpublications.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 1999 10:04 AM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Plug-ins with Acrobat 4.0 Sort of related question: Is the send e-mail feature in Acrobat 4 similar to the Arts Joust plug-in for Acro 3 that allows you to specify a particular address as the default send to: address? Can anyone give details as to the specific functionality of this new Acrobat 4 feature? Thanks for your time. Mike Abrahamson Liturgical Publications _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 9-Apr-1999 3:34:35-GMT,2082;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id VAA09942 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 21:34:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA15598; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 22:28:44 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 8 Apr 1999 22:24:22 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA15169; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 22:24:21 -0500 Message-ID: <76F37B2B6013D21184E400A02461E5AF014C9953@msexchg1.wcnoc.com> From: Decker Gary E To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Downloading Reader 4.0 with Search Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 22:24:04 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> I just took a look at Adobe's web page on the Adobe Acrobat Reader 4.0 CD-ROM (http://www.adobe.com/prodindex/acrobat/cdrom40.html), which, according to the properties, was updated today. At the end of the page is the following note, which I am almost certain was not there yesterday: (Note: You will be able to download Acrobat Reader 4.0 with search when available.) If this is true, then our questions are answered. Gary E. Decker, IS Analyst WCNOC / Burlington, KS USA Note: Opinions expressed in this forum are my own, and not those of my employer, WCNOC. _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 9-Apr-1999 4:17:31-GMT,3103;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id WAA10867 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 22:17:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA19076; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 23:12:45 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 8 Apr 1999 23:08:45 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA18759; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 23:08:44 -0500 Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 21:08:39 -0700 (PDT) From: George Johnson To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] No 4.0 Search? was Slow Download of Reader 4.0 In-Reply-To: <76F37B2B6013D21184E400A02461E5AF014C9950@msexchg1.wcnoc.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> > > > 4. The Reader and Search "ARE" FREELY re-distributable and I quote > > "and you don't even have to tell us about it". This was asked in the > context of > > > burning your own CD's which would include reader and search. > > > Depends on what you call "distribution," I suppose. I wonder if they'd > have any problem with carrying the installation CD around to 1000 > different PCs and installing the Reader+Search. Or, better yet, copying > the installation files to the network and letting individuals install it > themselves. > > > I wanted to ask if we could make the reader + search available for > download > > off one's own site, but I imagine this is not permitted. Though I > don't > > understand what the difference is between that and buring a CD and > > distributing it freely. > > I don't either...I wonder if anyone could explain this to us? Adobe? > Just check the end user license agreement. The one for Reader 4.0 seems to indicate that it would be OK: "You may make and distribute unlimited copies of the Software, including copies for commercial distribution, as long as each copy that you make and distribute contains this Agreement and the same copyright and other proprietary notices pertaining to this Software that appear in the Software. If you download the Software from the Internet or similar on-line source, you must include the Adobe copyright notice for the Software with any on-line distribution and on any media you distribute that includes the Software." _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 9-Apr-1999 9:23:00-GMT,2845;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id DAA17282 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 03:22:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA04236; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 04:10:13 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 9 Apr 1999 04:08:31 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA04122; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 04:08:29 -0500 From: "David Ralston" To: Subject: [PDF] OPENING PDF DOCS FULL FRAME IN A HTML BROWSER Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 10:10:06 +0100 Message-ID: <000201be8268$c302c1a0$c80ac8c3@scylla> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 1 (Highest) X-MSMail-Priority: High X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Importance: High Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Hi, We'd like to run a project so that we can display PDF pages within a frame within say Nav4.5 or IE4/5 and in another frame create an HTML menu with buttons that link into the PDF pages in the adjoining frame. I understand that Nav4.5 supports the feature of NAMED DESTINATIONS that would allow us to specify within an HTML page a link to, say, a particular page within a PDF document. Is this correct and can you do this in IE4 or IE5? Are there crossplatform issues? On another point is it possible for the PDF document to sit exactly full frame within the HTML browser's frame (with an invisible border) so that the viewer is unaware where the HTML document mortises with the PDF document? We also want to turn off all the tool bars and menu bars for both the Reader and the browser. Can this done? Will one need to develop a plug-in or an Active X controller to achieve this? Lastly, does Acrobat 4 support some of these ideas? Any guidance on the above would be gratefully received. Thanks, David Ralston [C][H][A][M][P][S][-][E][L][Y][S][E][E][S][_][I][N][C] Audiomagazines for English speakers learning French, German, Spanish or Italian. http://www.champs-elysees.com _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 9-Apr-1999 13:16:07-GMT,2598;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id HAA21601 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 07:16:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA19270; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 08:09:50 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 9 Apr 1999 08:06:35 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA18862; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 08:06:33 -0500 Message-ID: <001301be828a$24b6a580$32e62ac2@oemcomputer> From: "Noel Vaillant" To: "pdflist" Subject: [PDF] Excel graph to EPS > Latex >dvips > distiller...Distiller bug?? (win98) Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 14:07:44 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Hi all, I have discovered an expected behaviour from my distiller. Wondering if you would classify it as a bug. I have an Excel graph (width > height). I print it to an EPS file (driver is Adobe-PS-Printer-Driver ) using 'landscape' option, 'letter' paper... I then include my graph into a LaTeX document: \includegraphics[scale= ..]{myfile.eps} After I compile it, the dvi file looks great.(Yap) After I use dvips, the ps file looks great (GSview) After I use the distiller, the page containing my graph is displayed as landscape, all other pages are portrait... I realised that if I update the %%ViewingOrientation in the eps file to: %%ViewingOrientation: 1 0 0 1 then my final pdf is fine. But why didn't the distiller got it right in the first place? Regards. Noel. __________________________ Name: Dr Noel Vaillant Location: London UK Email: vaillant@netcomuk.co.uk Home: www.netcomuk.co.uk/~vaillant _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 9-Apr-1999 13:43:50-GMT,2292;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id HAA22163 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 07:43:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA22122; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 08:38:31 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 9 Apr 1999 08:35:10 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA21824; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 08:35:10 -0500 Message-ID: <3987B52ABD8FD011B82A0060B01B7B2079A3E6@EXCHANGE-S> From: Lockefeer Wim To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Cc: "Raymond Vanbrabant (E-mail)" , "Marc Iven (E-mail)" Subject: [PDF] PDFwriter with MS-Works Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 15:35:05 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Hi: We have a corporate intranet with +/- 1000 PC's using MS Word 97 and MS Works 3 under Windows NT 4.0. Shared documents are saved as PDF. Until now, only word users used PDFwriter 3, without any problem. Works users, however, get a "division by zero" error everytime they access PDFWriter HAs anybody else encountered this problem, and if yes, who knows what the solution might be ? cu W/ ------------------------------------------------------------- Wim Lockefeer, Media Coordinator, Provincie Limburg Vde directie, Universiteitslaan 1, B-3500 Hasselt (Belgium) wlockefeer@limburg.be icq 3097957 http://www.limburg.be ------------------------------------------------------------- _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 9-Apr-1999 13:44:21-GMT,1774;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id HAA22170 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 07:44:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA22121; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 08:38:31 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 9 Apr 1999 08:35:04 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA21774; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 08:35:01 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.5 Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 08:33:39 -0500 From: "Philip Pearce" To: Subject: [PDF] Remove from PDFlist Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id IAA21770 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Please remove email address: p-pearce@tamu.edu from pdflist Thank you. Philip G. Pearce Manager, Contracts and Budgets Texas Agricultural Extension Service p-pearce@tamu.edu _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 9-Apr-1999 13:51:28-GMT,2206;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id HAA22332 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 07:51:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA22798; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 08:46:52 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 9 Apr 1999 08:45:42 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA22688; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 08:45:41 -0500 From: robert.richard@hrdc-drhc.gc.ca X-Internal-ID: 370BBBD700003BDA Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 8:29:47 -0400 Message-ID: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Form Fields & Printing. X-Incognito-SN: 1395 X-Incognito-Version: 4.25.361 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> PDFZone, George Johnson wrote-------------------- "...Is it the last field that is filled out? If so, this occurrs when the field data has not been "committed" by clicking outside of the field, pressing TAB, or pressing ENTER after entering the field data. A common solution is to provide a "Print" button which is programmed to print the document..." I have created a print paper copy button as indicated in order to commit last printing field. This morning, agents still have problem for one particular form fields-text- that does not want to print and it should. What else should I verify? Thanks in advance for help. Robert Richard DRH/HRD Canada TAE/EIT 1735 _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 9-Apr-1999 2:26:20-GMT,2936;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id UAA08592 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 20:26:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA09375; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 21:19:09 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 8 Apr 1999 21:14:13 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA08906; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 21:14:12 -0500 Message-Id: <4.1.19990408182123.00aa0d60@mail-321.corp.adobe.com> X-Sender: srosenba@mail-321.corp.adobe.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 19:08:42 -0700 To: (Recipient list suppressed) From: Sarah Rosenbaum Subject: [PDF] ALERT: No viruses in Acrobat Reader Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> The public beta release of Acrobat Reader 4.0, posted on www.adobe.com in early March was rumored to contain a virus. This is a false report. McAfee VirusScan 4.x.x for Windows using the 4.0.4017 Virus DAT file released March 15, 1999 reported that the pre-release version had the NetBusPro.dr virus, but this was due to an imprecise virus specification within the 4.0.4017 Virus DAT file itself. The 4.0.4019 Virus DAT file released by Network Associates on March 29, 1999 corrects the problem and shows that the file is free of viruses. Both the virus lab at Network Associates and Adobe Systems Inc have confirmed this fix. BTW, the 4.0.4015 Virus DAT file that was current as of early March had also shown the file to be free of viruses. All pre-release and release versions of Acrobat 4.0 Reader are free of known viruses. Adobe uses a number of virus scanning utilities, in addition to McAfee, to thoroughly screen all software before it is released publicly. Thank you for your attention in this matter. Sarah ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sarah Rosenbaum Adobe Systems Incorporated Group Product Manager 345 Park Avenue, MS E14 Adobe Acrobat San Jose, CA 95110 408-536-3844 (v) srosenba@adobe.com 408-537-4005 (f) www.adobe.com/acrobat ------------------------------------------------------------------------ _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 9-Apr-1999 11:23:20-GMT,2595;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id FAA19461 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 05:23:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA11198; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 06:13:23 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 9 Apr 1999 06:11:11 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA11021; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 06:11:09 -0500 Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 04:10:27 -0700 From: jliston@mtest.teradyne.com (Jim Liston ) Message-Id: <199904091110.EAA11745@uluru.mtest> Subject: [PDF] Attaching Acrobat Files to Lotus Notes To: pdf-digest@lists.pdfzone.com Cc: jliston@mtest.teradyne.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-MD5: L0RCq7zx65T9Py0uoNhwgw== Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> I have created a PDF file that I can open with either the Windows or Unix version of Acrobat 3.x. The file is know to be good. It was created using the Acrobat Distiller command 3.01 for Solaris 2.3 and later on FrameMaker 5.5. The PDF file was not optimized. Using my Unix CDE mailtool, I have attached a 132K Acrobat file to email to internal and external persons who use Lotus Notes on Windows pc and to non-Notes users on Unix boxes. Unix users can read the PDF file using Acrobat Reader 3.01/3.02; however, Notes users using Acrobat Reader 3.1/3.2 on PCs have problems. If they either launch the PDF file from Notes or detach the file, save it, and open it with Acrobat Reader, the file is partially corrupted: only the bookmarks show up, the page text is gone. Does Lotus Notes support Acrobat files? Do you have to configure it in any special way for Lotus Notes? I have searched the Abobe and Lotus support databases without finding any known problems Lotus Notes has with Acrobat. regards Jim Liston Teradyne, San Jose, CA _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 9-Apr-1999 15:27:43-GMT,4017;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id JAA25115 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 09:27:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA00702; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 10:20:01 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 9 Apr 1999 10:18:12 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA00511; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 10:18:10 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: listowner (Unverified) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 10:17:00 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: "PDFzone.COM List Administrator" Subject: Re: [PDF] Remove ***REMINDER*** Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> >Please remove email address: REMINDER: ------------ PLEASE don't post these kinds of requests to the more than 2000 PDF list subscribers -- none of them can do anything to help with list-related problems. 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NOTE3: One can also use the Web-based form at: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html to either unsubscribe or subscribe to any of the lists we host. - PDFzone.COM List Admin. _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 9-Apr-1999 16:23:49-GMT,2086;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id KAA26747 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 10:23:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA06185; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 11:17:54 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 9 Apr 1999 11:13:34 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA05731; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 11:13:32 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990409121452.009a19e0@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 12:14:52 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] Slow Download of Reader 4.0 In-Reply-To: <004601be8208$c1132840$45432e9c@pdfzone.net> References: <3.0.5.32.19990408172932.008ac470@pop.iglou.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> > >Steve it's so true...but I'd use the sprinkler analogy instead of a hose. ;) > Filling in the sprinkler at the other end of the hose was left as an exercise for the reader. Or Reader. I should have made that more clear. Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 9-Apr-1999 16:29:28-GMT,2380;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id KAA26949 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 10:29:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA06829; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 11:26:04 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 9 Apr 1999 11:23:52 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA06707; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 11:23:51 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990409122510.0094f200@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 12:25:10 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] PDFwriter with MS-Works In-Reply-To: <3987B52ABD8FD011B82A0060B01B7B2079A3E6@EXCHANGE-S> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> > >HAs anybody else encountered this problem, and if yes, who knows what >the solution might be ? > I don't use Works, so I don't know if this will ... er ... Work, but try changing your PDFWriter configuration. Have the user print to PDFWriter. In the print dialog, there should be an option to View PDF. Disable this and let the document print. PDFWriter should remember the new setting, so they won't have to do this each time they print. Of course, they'll have to invoke Reader/Exchange themselves if they want to view the PDF, but it beats crashing everything, eh? Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 9-Apr-1999 16:38:17-GMT,1626;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id KAA27182 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 10:38:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA07746; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 11:34:47 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 9 Apr 1999 11:33:17 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA07591; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 11:33:16 -0500 Message-ID: <0FAAFBF846ABD211A19100805FA6A55A01239D@gold.dolby.com> From: "Goldin, Susan" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] pdf.dot Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 09:33:24 -0700 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> If has been so long since this happened to me that I have forgotten the fix. How do you stop MS Word from asking if you want to save changes to the PDF template every time you close Word? _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 9-Apr-1999 18:06:31-GMT,2764;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id MAA29614 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 12:06:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA15515; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 13:01:29 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 9 Apr 1999 12:57:12 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA14989; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 12:57:06 -0500 Message-ID: <6031CF804B89D111B9F00020AFD0D9A607F84A@mail.paravision.com> From: Vincent Huang To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] No 4.0 Search? was Slow Download of Reader 4.0 Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 10:41:27 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Kurt, Could you represent the PDF community to OFFICIALLY ask Adobe to respond to the "Search" bundle in 4.0 Reader issue....ONCE and FOR ALL! This thread seems to be never ending now.... Cheers Vincent Huang Developer of PageGenie 2000: Advanced PDF Capturing and Full Color OCR for Document Professionals http://www.pagegenie.com > ---------- > From: George Johnson[SMTP:geojohn@u.washington.edu] > > > > > 4. The Reader and Search "ARE" FREELY re-distributable and I > quote > > > "and you don't even have to tell us about it". This was asked in > the > > context of > > > > burning your own CD's which would include reader and search. > > > > > Depends on what you call "distribution," I suppose. I wonder if > they'd > > have any problem with carrying the installation CD around to 1000 > > different PCs and installing the Reader+Search. Or, better yet, > copying > > the installation files to the network and letting individuals > install it > > themselves. > > > > > I wanted to ask if we could make the reader + search available for > > download > > > off one's own site, but I imagine this is not permitted. Though I > > don't > > > understand what the difference is between that and buring a CD and > > > distributing it freely. > > > _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 9-Apr-1999 18:06:32-GMT,2224;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id MAA29616 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 12:06:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA15754; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 13:02:51 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 9 Apr 1999 13:01:48 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA15561; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 13:01:47 -0500 Message-ID: <370E40A1.4366E71F@pit-magnus.com> Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 14:02:09 -0400 From: "Dan Murren" Organization: Progressive Information Technologies X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: PDF Subject: [PDF] Search Problem Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Hello, I'm using Adobe Acrobat 3.1, and I'm getting strange results from an Adobe Acrobat Search. When searching for a particular word, the word that I search for is highlighted along with a variety of other words/symbols within the document. I created an index using Adobe Catalog, and added that index to the Search window. I've tried to refry the PDF file and re-distilled the original postscript file while creating a new index each time but I get the same results. This is occurring on both Win95 and Win98. Has anyone seen this behavior, or knows how to fix the problem? Thanks, Dan Murren New Media Development Specialist Progressive Information Technologies _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 9-Apr-1999 18:19:39-GMT,2012;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id MAA29954 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 12:19:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA17236; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 13:16:14 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 9 Apr 1999 13:14:50 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA17102; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 13:14:49 -0500 From: Karen_L_Mibus@keybank.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: KEYCORP To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <8525674E.006383EA.00@keybank.com> Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 14:08:40 -0400 Subject: Re: [PDF] Slow Download of Reader 4.0 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Thanks to everyone who responded to my inquiry about the slow download of Reader 4.0. I suggested to my client that his much of the problem is due to tax time; however, he claims he has used other PCs, including one set up with Road Runner, at different times and was unable to download. This amazes me because I also tested downloading the Reader from different PCs with 28.8 modems and was successful prior to noon EDT. Well, I just hope that after tax time things will improve, hoses or no hoses! ;) Thanks again! --Karen _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 9-Apr-1999 18:34:32-GMT,2138;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id MAA00408 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 12:34:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA18737; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 13:31:38 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 9 Apr 1999 13:30:20 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA18630; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 13:30:19 -0500 From: forcutt@sco.state.id.us X-Lotus-FromDomain: SCO To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <8725674E.00651FFC.00@sco.state.id.us> Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 12:27:39 -0600 Subject: Re: [PDF] Search Problem Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Adobe recognizes the result flaws in 3.1 search, and recommends returning to 3.0 with search if accuracy is important. I can't recall the exact styling, but on adobe.com there is a concise support document to this effect. Hopefully, the search api with 4.0 will be a bit more scrupulous. Fred Orcutt > I'm using Adobe Acrobat 3.1, and I'm getting strange results from an >words/symbols within the document. >Search window. I've tried to refry the PDF file and re-distilled the >original postscript file while creating a new index each time but I get >the same results. This is occurring on both Win95 and Win98. Has anyone >seen this behavior, or knows how to fix the problem? >Thanks, _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 9-Apr-1999 18:42:34-GMT,3455;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id MAA00594 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 12:42:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA19388; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 13:38:09 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 9 Apr 1999 13:36:55 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA19221; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 13:36:54 -0500 Message-ID: <6031CF804B89D111B9F00020AFD0D9A607F84F@mail.paravision.com> From: Vincent Huang To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] Search Problem Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 11:37:31 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Most likely the positions of the text in your index have shifted. You should find that next or near to the highlights, your searched words are there... It is a known problem in Acrobat 3. I guess it was a snafu done in Acrobat 3.x design which resulted in the in compatibility between Verity search engine and displayed words in Arobat 3. You can fix the problem using Exchange but it's too tedious and probably not worth it. We were hoping that 4.0 fixe the problem....(I havn't received ny order yet.) Vincent Huang Developer of PageGenie 2000: Advanced PDF Capturing and Full Color OCR for Document Professionals http://www.pagegenie.com > ---------- > From: Dan Murren[SMTP:dmurren@pit-magnus.com] > Reply To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Sent: Friday, April 09, 1999 11:02 AM > To: PDF > Subject: [PDF] Search Problem > > > <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> > <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> > > Hello, > > I'm using Adobe Acrobat 3.1, and I'm getting strange results from > an > Adobe Acrobat Search. When searching for a particular word, the word > that I search for is highlighted along with a variety of other > words/symbols within the document. > > I created an index using Adobe Catalog, and added that index to > the > Search window. I've tried to refry the PDF file and re-distilled the > original postscript file while creating a new index each time but I > get > the same results. This is occurring on both Win95 and Win98. Has > anyone > seen this behavior, or knows how to fix the problem? > Thanks, > > > Dan Murren > New Media Development Specialist > Progressive Information Technologies > > > > > _____________________________________________________________ > > * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * > Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM > < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > > _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 9-Apr-1999 19:20:59-GMT,2806;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id NAA01712 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 13:20:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA23195; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 14:16:46 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 9 Apr 1999 14:15:02 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA22951; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 14:14:58 -0500 X-Sent: 9 Apr 1999 19:12:24 GMT Message-ID: <00b701be82bd$812889e0$04fea8c0@nt40> From: "Mark Manderson" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] populating forms from an external database file Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 12:01:20 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> In response to getting data from Access, Excel, or delimited text into pdf forms, we have an application called Document Management Application (DMA)that both extracts data from pdf forms as well as taking data from dbf3 files(databases) and populates the form. Exporting data from the Access mdb table to dbf3 or out to a comma delimited text file so it can be imported into the dbf3 file works very well, setup is a matter of minutes and the DMA-P(populate) program can populate pdf forms at the rate of about 1 per second, depending on form size. -----Original Message----- To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Cc: pdfdev@lists.pdfzone.com Date: Thursday, April 08, 1999 4:06 AM Subject: Re: [PDF] populating forms from an external database file >In message <370C506A.35363EEE@pacific.net.sg>, jo leong > wrote: >>I'm looking for a way of populating Acrobat form fields with data from >>either an Access database file, excel spreadsheet or even a delimited >>text file. >> >>Does anyone know of any plugins or java scripts out there that will help >>me to do so ? > _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 9-Apr-1999 20:18:30-GMT,2060;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id OAA03323 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 14:18:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA28749; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 15:13:34 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 9 Apr 1999 15:11:19 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA28483; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 15:11:16 -0500 Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 15:49:39 -0400 From: "Arsenault, Daniel " Subject: [PDF] using PDF for help To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Message-id: <81425339DB83D21187500008C7A47B3501554701%corpa1.polaroid.COM@prdnet.polaroid.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> I'd like to know about using PDF for a help system. Can my software developers make context-sensitive type calls to a PDF file created in Framamaker with named pages? Can they do so from within the application by using just a subset of the Acrobat reader? Can context-sensitive calls be made so that other navigation is not possible? Do you have to have Exchange to open PDFs in an application? The Adobe web site does a pretty poor job of explaining all this, if you ask me. _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 9-Apr-1999 20:39:17-GMT,2835;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id OAA03919 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 14:39:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA30899; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 15:32:44 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 9 Apr 1999 15:30:59 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA30661; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 15:30:58 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990409163217.008a16f0@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 16:32:17 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] Slow Download of Reader 4.0 In-Reply-To: <8525674E.006383EA.00@keybank.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> >Thanks to everyone who responded to my inquiry about the slow download of Reader >4.0. I suggested to my client that his much of the problem is due to tax time; >however, he claims he has used other PCs, including one set up with Road Runner, >at different times and was unable to download. This amazes me because I also >tested downloading the Reader from different PCs with 28.8 modems and was >successful prior to noon EDT. > >Well, I just hope that after tax time things will improve, hoses or no hoses! FWIW, I don't think it's solely a matter of connection speed. A couple of us have had trouble d'ling from the Adobe site. It might be some kind of conflict with MSIE3 (which is what I have on the machine I was trying to d'l with) or it might be because I have most of the javastuff disabled in that copy of MSIE3. I'll have to re-enable that and give it a shot. In the meanwhile, you might also want to have your client check the various security settings in his copy of MSIE. Who knows what sort of mischief they can get up to? Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 9-Apr-1999 20:50:48-GMT,2558;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id OAA04340 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 14:50:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA31954; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 15:43:53 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 9 Apr 1999 15:42:37 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA31830; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 15:42:37 -0500 Message-Id: <4.1.19990409162957.009f5bb0@dionis.com> Message-Id: <4.1.19990409162957.009f5bb0@dionis.com> X-Sender: danielari@dionis.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 16:40:16 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Daniel-Ari Feinberg Subject: [PDF] linking to other PDF files on the web Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Eugene, Your trouble linking to other PDF files on the web may be fixed if you set the Base URL for the files. If you have two files "c:/project/start.pdf" and "c:/project/end.pdf", and you link from start to end, the link is stored as a relative path "end.pdf"; when you click on the link in start.pdf, Acrobat takes the relative path from the link as well as the full path of the current document and comes up with the proper path "c:/project/end.pdf". But with the web, you don't want to be relative to any path on the local hard drive. If you set the Base URL, clicking on any link in that document with a relative path will become relative to that Base URL. If your Base URL is "http://www.dionis.com", then clicking on the link will go to "http://www.dionis.com/end.pdf", which is the behaviour you are looking for. I am not sure if I have explained this well, but I think this should help get you going. Best Regards, Daniel-Ari Feinberg Dionis _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 9-Apr-1999 20:57:41-GMT,2814;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id OAA04563 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 14:57:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA32221; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 15:45:55 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 9 Apr 1999 15:44:52 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA32084; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 15:44:51 -0500 From: "Scott Hamlow" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] using PDF for help Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 13:44:35 -0700 Message-ID: <000b01be82c9$c7561f20$45a2fecc@scotth.fourgen.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2232.26 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-Reply-To: <81425339DB83D21187500008C7A47B3501554701%corpa1.polaroid.COM@prdnet.polaroid.com> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Daniel, I gave a presentation at both the 1998 FrameUsers Conference and the 1999 WinWriters Conference on this very topic. I'm sending you a separate, offline write-up on how we have done this. If anyone else wants this information, email directly and I'll send the write-up. It's a 420K PDF. ------------------------------------ Scott Hamlow Technical Writer - New Technologies HK Systems, Inc. Seattle, Washington USA http://www.hksystems.com mailto:scott.hamlow@hksystems.com 206.517.6487 ------------------------------------ > -----Original Message----- > I'd like to know about using PDF for a help system. Can my software > developers make context-sensitive type calls to a PDF file created in > Framamaker with named pages? Can they do so from within the application by > using just a subset of the Acrobat reader? Can context-sensitive calls be > made so that other navigation is not possible? Do you have to > have Exchange > to open PDFs in an application? The Adobe web site does a pretty > poor job of > explaining all this, if you ask me. _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 9-Apr-1999 21:04:11-GMT,2286;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id PAA04766 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 15:04:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA01022; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 16:00:00 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 9 Apr 1999 15:58:47 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA00820; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 15:58:45 -0500 Message-Id: <199904092058.PAA00813@everglades.binc.net> Subject: Re: [PDF] using PDF for help Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 16:59:10 -0400 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: Mark Gavin To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> [Arsenault, Daniel wrote on 4/9/99 3:49 PM] >I'd like to know about using PDF for a help system. Can my software >developers make context-sensitive type calls to a PDF file created in >Framamaker with named pages? We built a context sensitive help system for PageVault using IAC on the Macintosh and Windows. The PageVault documentation was created using FrameMaker and included bookmarks to all of the sections and sub-sections within the document. The Acrobat Exchange IAC interface allows you to go to the destination of a specific bookmark within a PDF file using the name associated with the bookmark. Mark Gavin Vice President, Software Development Digital Applications, Inc. 215 East Providence Road Aldan, PA, USA 19018-4129 (610) 284-4006 mgavin@DigApp.com http://www.DigApp.com _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 9-Apr-1999 21:44:29-GMT,2539;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id PAA05909 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 15:44:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA04526; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 16:37:32 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 9 Apr 1999 16:35:16 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA04237; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 16:35:10 -0500 Message-ID: <002801be82d1$32496880$0be62ac2@oemcomputer> From: "Noel Vaillant" To: References: <4.1.19990409162957.009f5bb0@dionis.com> Subject: Re: [PDF] linking to other PDF files on the web Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 22:37:36 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> ....... > relative path will become relative to that Base URL. If your Base URL is > "http://www.dionis.com", then clicking on the link will go to > "http://www.dionis.com/end.pdf", which is the behaviour you are looking for. > > I am not sure if I have explained this well, but I think this should help > get you going. Daniel, in your experience, If you click on the link in 'start.pdf' (which is say, on the 5th page from the start of document), and that links takes you to end.pdf, when you then click to the 'Back' button of your browser navigation bar, does *that* take you back to the 5th page of start.pdf, or just at the beginning of start.pdf ? In my case, those hyperlinks never work properly in the sense that I always come back to the beginning (1st page) of start.pdf... (irrespective of NN vs IE). Regards. Noel. _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 9-Apr-1999 23:01:21-GMT,3814;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id RAA07729 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 17:01:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA11109; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 17:56:47 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 9 Apr 1999 17:53:43 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA10917; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 17:53:41 -0500 X-Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated X-Division: Core Technologies X-Department: Product Interoperability Analysis X-URL: X-Location: Remote (ISAACS_REMOTE) Message-Id: <4.1.19990409154630.02835220@mail-303> X-Sender: isaacs@mail-303 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 15:52:59 -0700 To: Steve Rindsberg From: Dov Isaacs Subject: Re: [PDF] Slow Download of Reader 4.0 Cc: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19990409163217.008a16f0@pop.iglou.com> References: <8525674E.006383EA.00@keybank.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> At 4/9/99 01:32 PM , Steve Rindsberg wrote: >>Thanks to everyone who responded to my inquiry about the slow download of Reader >>4.0. I suggested to my client that his much of the problem is due to tax time; >>however, he claims he has used other PCs, including one set up with Road Runner, >>at different times and was unable to download. This amazes me because I also >>tested downloading the Reader from different PCs with 28.8 modems and was >>successful prior to noon EDT. >> >>Well, I just hope that after tax time things will improve, hoses or no hoses! > > > >FWIW, I don't think it's solely a matter of connection speed. A couple of >us have had trouble d'ling from the Adobe site. It might be some kind of >conflict with MSIE3 (which is what I have on the machine I was trying to >d'l with) or it might be because I have most of the javastuff disabled in >that copy of MSIE3. I'll have to re-enable that and give it a shot. In >the meanwhile, you might also want to have your client check the various >security settings in his copy of MSIE. Who knows what sort of mischief >they can get up to? > >Steve Rindsberg Why is anybody surprised that these download problems are occurring? (1) A brand new release of Acrobat is available and many thousands of existing users want "at it" ASAP. (2) It is tax time and Adobe normally experiences heavy congestion on its servers due to the fact that IRS encourages taxpayer download of PDF versions of the tax forms, including this year, PDF "forms" fill-in versions of these. Thus, many tens of thousands of free Acrobat Reader downloads are initiated. Adobe DID take prudent steps to avoid even worse congestion. The FTP download operation was outsourced to an organization that has much more download bandwidth than Adobe has with a single T3 line. If you really wanted to see congestion, you should have tried downloading Internet Explorer 5.0 on the first day it was out! - Dov _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 9-Apr-1999 23:56:24-GMT,2077;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id RAA08921 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 17:56:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA14613; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 18:49:49 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 9 Apr 1999 18:48:16 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA14492; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 18:48:08 -0500 X-Sender: mmccartt@siesta Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <000b01be82c9$c7561f20$45a2fecc@scotth.fourgen.com> References: <81425339DB83D21187500008C7A47B3501554701%corpa1.polaroid.COM@prdnet.polar oid.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 16:47:55 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Mac McCartt Subject: RE: [PDF] using PDF for help Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Scott I attended your talk at the FrameUser's conference and came away impressed. Unfortunately, I was diverted by the WebWorks Published presentation that seemed to offer a better answer. Alas, it was not better -- or easier or ???. Please send me your pdf writeup of your pdf help system. Mac - - - Electronic Signature - - - Mac McCartt/mmccartt@autoiii.com Thousand Oaks, CA 805 376 5223/FAX 805 376 5005 - - - Electronic Signature - - - _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 10-Apr-1999 14:50:20-GMT,2705;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id IAA25640 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 08:50:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA31929; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 09:31:44 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 10 Apr 1999 09:28:13 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA31704; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 09:28:11 -0500 Message-ID: <005901be836f$4ba0f200$07ae1b26@z9m7g8> From: "Mario E. Martinez" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] populating forms from an external database file Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 09:29:21 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Mark Manderson: Would you please send the address to contact you in regard the Document Management Application you refer to in your message reproduced below? Thank you, Mario E. Martinez memartinez01@earthlink.net ____________________________________________ -----Original Message----- From: Mark Manderson To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: Friday, April 09, 1999 12:24 PM Subject: Re: [PDF] populating forms from an external database file >In response to getting data from Access, Excel, or delimited text into pdf >forms, we have an application called Document Management Application >(DMA)that both extracts data from pdf forms as well as taking data from dbf3 >files(databases) and populates the form. >Exporting data from the Access mdb table to dbf3 or out to a comma delimited >text file so it can be imported into the dbf3 file works very well, setup is >a matter of minutes and the DMA-P(populate) program can populate pdf forms >at the rate of about 1 per second, depending on form size. _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 10-Apr-1999 15:04:34-GMT,2272;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id JAA25942 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 09:04:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA00772; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 09:57:37 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 10 Apr 1999 09:56:15 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA00635; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 09:56:09 -0500 Message-Id: <199904101456.HAA18699@wren.prod.itd.earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 07:56:08 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] populating forms from an external database file From: "C. Scott Miller" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> > Would you please send the address to contact you in regard the Document > Management Application you refer to in your message reproduced below? I saw a demo of this product recently. Their brochure says: "DMA will Capture* and Map all the fields from the PDF form. Then DMA will extract the data from the form and move to any industry standard Database automatically." *Data capture, not image Capture (via Adobe Capture or plug-in). You can view demos and download a user guide from http://www.x-streem.com/. -- HTH, C. Scott Miller PDF R_e_s_e_a_r_c_h__C_o_m_p_a_n_i_o_n A Designer's Guide to Adobe's Portable Document Format http://www.performancegraphics.com _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 11-Apr-1999 12:55:21-GMT,2442;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id GAA20251 for ; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 06:55:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA09177; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 07:48:21 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 11 Apr 1999 07:44:15 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA08892; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 07:44:13 -0500 Message-ID: <371098FE.2CB1F335@nbnet.nb.ca> Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 09:43:42 -0300 From: Robert Richard X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Pdfzone Subject: RE: [PDF] Form Fields & Printing. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> PDFZone, George Johnson wrote-------------------- "...Is it the last field that is filled out? If so, this occurrs when the field data has not been "committed" by clicking outside of the field, pressing TAB, or pressing ENTER after entering the field data. A common solution is to provide a "Print" button which is programmed to print the document..." Robert wrote--------------------------------- "...I have created a print paper copy button as indicated in order to commit last printing field. This morning, agents still have problem for one particular form fields-text- that does not want to print and it should. What else should I verify?..." I had the "Dont Print" unselected in that particular Form Fields properties. Secondly, how could I get Agents Print Button on the pdf to flicker or pulsate? Kinda like java, I suppose. Thanks in advance for help. Robert Richard DRH/HRD Canada TAE/EIT 1735 _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 12-Apr-1999 2:57:20-GMT,2367;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id UAA06234 for ; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 20:57:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA29092; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 21:46:19 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 11 Apr 1999 21:42:50 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA28870; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 21:42:48 -0500 From: "Eugene Semetsky" To: Subject: [PDF] a few FDF questions... Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 12:44:19 +1000 Message-ID: <001e01be848e$5d592ba0$417d11cb@es.aapl.com.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Hi all, I'm fairly new to FDF and need some advice please.... I have written a simple CGI script that will take an input value from a PDF form, check it against a password file, and if successful, generate an email. I understand that an HTML form is sufficient, but if I want anything passed back to the PDF file, I use FDF format. I would like to pass back to the PDF form a "Password OK" or "Password denied" message (depending on the input). Can anyone point me to some example scripts etc? I don't really know FDF except the basics. TIA Eugene Semetsky --------------------------- Australian Arrow Pty. Ltd. A Yazaki Group Member es@aapl.com.au ext # 807 mciss@alphalink.com.au --------------------------- _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 12-Apr-1999 11:57:29-GMT,5107;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id FAA16842 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 05:57:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA25909; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 06:48:53 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 12 Apr 1999 06:45:29 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA25707; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 06:45:28 -0500 Message-ID: <001f01be84d9$8686bf60$45d0a2c3@customer.chello.be> From: "Philippe Dachsbeck" To: Subject: [PDF] Fw: Acrobat V3.01 coexisting with Reader V4.0 Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 13:42:13 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=SHA1; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001A_01BE84EA.45AC8360" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001A_01BE84EA.45AC8360 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Our users have both Acrobat Exchange V3.01 & Acrobat Reader V3.01installed on their NT workstations: Exchange is used for authoring activities while Reader is mandatory for intranet access when very large documents are handled (a previous topic). 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I now find that a particular collection is bigger than will fit onto a CD-R. Have any of you managed to use a CD jukebox with catalogued PDFs; how is it done? (or do you have better approach than mine?) TIA Darryl Lucas _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 12-Apr-1999 13:05:22-GMT,4304;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id HAA18315 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 07:05:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA30713; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 07:58:59 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 12 Apr 1999 07:54:54 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA30413; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 07:54:54 -0500 Message-ID: <3711ED36.60416A82@pit-magnus.com> Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 08:55:19 -0400 From: "Dan Murren" Organization: Progressive Information Technologies X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Search Problem References: <6031CF804B89D111B9F00020AFD0D9A607F84F@mail.paravision.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Vincent, Thanks for the reply, You mentioned that it can be fixed using Exchange, can you let me know how? Thanks, Dan Vincent Huang wrote: > <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> > <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> > > Most likely the positions of the text in your index have shifted. > You should find that next or near to the highlights, your searched words > are there... > > It is a known problem in Acrobat 3. I guess it was a snafu done in > Acrobat 3.x design which resulted in the in compatibility between Verity > search engine and displayed words in Arobat 3. > > You can fix the problem using Exchange but it's too tedious and probably > not worth it. > > We were hoping that 4.0 fixe the problem....(I havn't received ny order > yet.) > > Vincent Huang > Developer of PageGenie 2000: Advanced PDF Capturing and Full Color OCR > for Document Professionals > http://www.pagegenie.com > > > ---------- > > From: Dan Murren[SMTP:dmurren@pit-magnus.com] > > Reply To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > > Sent: Friday, April 09, 1999 11:02 AM > > To: PDF > > Subject: [PDF] Search Problem > > > > > > <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> > > <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> > > > > Hello, > > > > I'm using Adobe Acrobat 3.1, and I'm getting strange results from > > an > > Adobe Acrobat Search. When searching for a particular word, the word > > that I search for is highlighted along with a variety of other > > words/symbols within the document. > > > > I created an index using Adobe Catalog, and added that index to > > the > > Search window. I've tried to refry the PDF file and re-distilled the > > original postscript file while creating a new index each time but I > > get > > the same results. This is occurring on both Win95 and Win98. Has > > anyone > > seen this behavior, or knows how to fix the problem? > > Thanks, > > > > > > Dan Murren > > New Media Development Specialist > > Progressive Information Technologies > > > > > > > > > > _____________________________________________________________ > > > > * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * > > Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM > > < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > > > > > _____________________________________________________________ > > * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * > Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM > < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 12-Apr-1999 13:16:51-GMT,2166;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id HAA18546 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 07:16:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA31728; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 08:11:36 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 12 Apr 1999 08:09:53 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA31575; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 08:09:52 -0500 Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 09:05:07 -0400 From: Michael Vorel Subject: [PDF] Use of CD jukebox with PDF To: "INTERNET:pdf@lists.pdfzone.com" Message-ID: <199904120905_MC2-716D-2EF2@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id IAA31570 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Message text written by INTERNET:pdf@lists.pdfzone.com >Have any of you managed to use a CD jukebox with catalogued PDFs; how is it done?< Do you intend to publish for network availability? Most network enabled Jukeboxes treat multiple platters as one logical mapped drive with multiple directories. You may need to rebuild the index for the CD and keep the search index on magnetic media. Particularly if the collection grows over time. michael "In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice, but in practice, there is." _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 12-Apr-1999 13:37:52-GMT,2267;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id HAA19077 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 07:37:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA01052; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 08:34:54 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 12 Apr 1999 08:33:34 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA00927; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 08:33:33 -0500 From: "Darryl Lucas (Solvera, Handforth, UK)" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Use of CD jukebox with PDF Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 14:31:57 +0100 Message-ID: <000101be84e8$e3022400$ab7175c1@win95> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Hi Michael, Yes, I would publish for network availability. Would I be able to build the collection WITHOUT having a jukebox, or would I need to "mirror" my customers set-up? ---Original message--- >Have any of you managed to use a CD jukebox with catalogued PDFs; how is it done?< Do you intend to publish for network availability? Most network enabled Jukeboxes treat multiple platters as one logical mapped drive with multiple directories. You may need to rebuild the index for the CD and keep the search index on magnetic media. Particularly if the collection grows over time. _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 12-Apr-1999 13:48:59-GMT,2007;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id HAA19315 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 07:48:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA02247; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 08:45:10 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 12 Apr 1999 08:44:00 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA02027; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 08:43:59 -0500 Message-ID: <3711F890.A665FDE2@moen.com> Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 09:43:44 -0400 From: Dennis W Baus Organization: Moen Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.07C-SGI [en] (X11; I; IRIX 6.3 IP32) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Re: pdf-digest for April-11-99 [V2 #489] References: <199904111244.HAA08911@everglades.binc.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> I'm presently using Adobe 4.0 from my PC running Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 SP3. I've found that i receive and error when attempting to view files directly launching them from folders using names with spaces in them. If I simply rename these files without spaces it reads them find? Is anyone else having this problem? Error: There was an error opening this document. FIle does not exist. Thanks, Dennis _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 12-Apr-1999 13:54:10-GMT,2336;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id HAA19459 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 07:54:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA02819; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 08:51:27 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 12 Apr 1999 08:50:10 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA02709; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 08:50:09 -0500 Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 09:49:41 -0400 From: Michael Vorel Subject: RE: [PDF] Use of CD jukebox with PDF To: "INTERNET:pdf@lists.pdfzone.com" Message-ID: <199904120950_MC2-7175-2851@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id IAA02705 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Message text written by INTERNET:pdf@lists.pdfzone.com >Yes, I would publish for network availability. Would I be able to build the collection WITHOUT having a jukebox, or would I need to "mirror" my customers set-up?< You may build the collection on CD without the Jukebox.... The integrity of the Index would be more at risk without the actual Juke software.... However you can model the scenario if your magnetic media can emulate the target CD/Juke collection. The best and safest development is a mirror image of the hardware and software of your target audience. michael vorel Bowne Business Solutions "In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice, but in practice, there is." _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 12-Apr-1999 15:34:44-GMT,2992;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id JAA22069 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 09:34:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA11874; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 10:28:06 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 12 Apr 1999 10:24:17 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA11532; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 10:24:16 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990412112539.00982640@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 11:25:39 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] Re: pdf-digest for April-11-99 [V2 #489] In-Reply-To: <3711F890.A665FDE2@moen.com> References: <199904111244.HAA08911@everglades.binc.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> > >I'm presently using Adobe 4.0 from my PC running Windows NT 4.0 Build >1381 SP3. I've found that i receive and error when attempting to view >files directly launching them from folders using names with spaces in >them. If I simply rename these files without spaces it reads them find? >Is anyone else having this problem? > This might be worth trying: Start, Run, type REGEDIT and click OK to start the registry editor. Search on AcroRd32.EXE Keep pressing F3 after each search "hit" until you find one whose key reads something like "\\Acrord32.exe "%1"" where the quote marks are literally there as shown above and and are the drive and path respectively where you've installed Reader. The whole string should be enclosed in quotes and the "%1" should also be within quotes. That last is the key point ... if it's not in quotes, Windows might be executing a command like: AcroRd32.exe my file.pdf where you need it to be: AcroRd32.exe "my file.pdf" In the former case, Reader will try to open a file called: my Since that doesn't exist, you get the file not found message. Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 12-Apr-1999 16:30:54-GMT,2280;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id KAA23686 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 10:30:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA17381; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 11:26:51 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 12 Apr 1999 11:25:08 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA17187; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 11:25:07 -0500 From: "George Johnson" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] a few FDF questions... Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 09:25:21 -0700 Message-ID: <000001be8501$0f79bad0$04e78e8c@geo_ws1.u.washington.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <001e01be848e$5d592ba0$417d11cb@es.aapl.com.au> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> > I have written a simple CGI script that will take an input value > from a PDF > form, check it against a password file, and if successful, generate an > email. > > I understand that an HTML form is sufficient, but if I want > anything passed > back to the PDF file, I use FDF format. I would like to pass back > to the PDF > form a "Password OK" or "Password denied" message (depending on > the input). If you're using the FDF Toolkit, use FDFSetStatus. Otherwise, supply a "/Status" key in the FDF, with the message you want to be displayed. _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 12-Apr-1999 17:11:29-GMT,1800;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id LAA24809 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 11:11:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA20829; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 12:02:03 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 12 Apr 1999 12:00:22 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA20679; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 12:00:19 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC2C706823FD211963400805FBEDF4E4F79E4@gsomail> From: "Perry, Bob" To: PDF List Subject: [PDF] submitting URL encoded forms Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 12:00:02 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> In a PDF form I am submitting the data as URL-encoded. Can this be submitted to an ASP page? I am submitting to http://gsowebdev/intranet/pdf_form.asp and not having any luck. The html version of this form is submitted to an ASP address and works fine. Can anybody recommend any good resources here? Thanks, -Bob Perry _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 12-Apr-1999 18:13:05-GMT,7665;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id MAA26527 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 12:13:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA26625; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 13:08:05 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 12 Apr 1999 13:05:48 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA26378; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 13:05:46 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: kfoss@mailbag.com Message-Id: Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 13:04:39 -0500 To: PDF@lists.pdfzone.com From: Kurt Foss Subject: [PDF] Adobe Acrobat 4.0 Now Available! Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> --- FORWARDED --- From today's business news Adobe Acrobat 4.0 Software Makes Collaborating and Sharing Documents a Breeze (Last updated 8:01 AM ET April 12) SAN JOSE, Calif., April 12 /PRNewswire/ -- Adobe Systems announced today the immediate availability of Adobe(R) Acrobat(R) 4.0 software for Windows(R) and Macintosh. Introduced in February, Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is simply one of the most reliable tools to help people collaborate and share information across computers, corporate Intranets and the Web. Adobe Acrobat 4.0 delivers a rich set of annotation tools, support for digital signatures, the ability to easily collect Web content into the Portable Document Format (PDF) and re-use information within PDF files. Additionally, in a world where computer viruses are becoming pervasive, PDF will not pass along viruses across computer systems or the Internet. The new features in Acrobat 4.0 will enhance the ability of Palo Verde, the largest power-producing facility in the western hemisphere, to manage documents related to its highly-regulated, closely monitored operations. "We maintain or create more than 1,800 procedures and 25,000 electronic work documents annually that outline critical plant operations," says Warren Martin, technical consultant at Palo Verde, Tonopah, Arizona. "Acrobat 4.0 will streamline this process considerably by allowing employees to quickly review and edit these work documents electronically. Our goal is to convert everything we possibly can to PDF so that staff can access it at the desktop-saving us time and ensuring continued safety." PDF is quickly becoming the file format of choice for delivering press ready files for print production. Acrobat 4.0 offers a variety of new high-end publishing features that promise to greatly improve today's prepress workflows and streamline the overall print process to increase productivity. Acrobat 4.0 provides support for high-end features such as ICC profiles, full support for Adobe PostScript(R) 3(TM), and tools for making last-minute changes to text and graphics within a PDF file. Adobe Makes PDF More Accessible In addition to shipping Adobe Acrobat 4.0, the company also introduced today a new Web server companion tool that makes PDF files more accessible on corporate Intranets, the Web and-for the first time-to the visually impaired. Available to Original Equipment Manufacturers (OEMs) and Independent Software Vendors (ISVs), the Adobe Document Server allows users to view documents in PDF within their Web browsers without the Acrobat Reader software installed on users' machines. It converts PDF files to JPEG, GIF or HTML text. Because it converts PDF files to text, conventional screen reading programs can now read PDF files, and PDF content can now be fully indexed by Internet search engines. "Acrobat 4.0 makes PDF the common currency for delivering documents anywhere, and now the Adobe Document Server extends the availability of documents in PDF to a much wider audience," said Joe Eschbach, vice president, Document Solutions, Adobe Systems. "Because the Adobe Document Server doesn't require the Acrobat Reader to reside on a user's desktop, it opens the doors for Acrobat and PDF to be used for a wider variety of applications." Pricing and Availability Adobe Acrobat 4.0 Adobe Acrobat 4.0 software for Windows and Macintosh* is available today at the expected street price of US$249. All registered users of Adobe Acrobat 2.x software and above can upgrade to Adobe Acrobat 4.0 software for US$99.00. Customers who purchased Adobe Acrobat 3.0 software after February, 16, 1999 are eligible to receive a free upgrade to Acrobat 4.0 with proof of purchase. For more information customers can call their local Adobe authorized reseller or in the US and Canada 800-272-3623. Volume pricing is also available for Acrobat 4.0 through the Adobe Open Options program. For more information about the Adobe Open Options program, customers should visit the following Web pages on Adobe's Web site. http://www.adobe.com/purcha se/openoptions/main.html. * The Web capture and digital signature features are currently not available for the Macintosh. Adobe expects to make these features available for the Macintosh later this year. Adobe Document Server The Adobe Document Server for Windows NT(R) and Sun Solaris(TM) 2.5 was designed for Original Equipment Manufacturers (OEMs) and Independent Software Developers (ISVs) to integrate within their products. For licensing information, please contact your local Adobe representative. About Adobe Systems Incorporated Founded in 1982, Adobe Systems is a leading provider of graphic design, publishing, and imaging software for Web and print production, and the second largest desktop software company in the world with annual revenues approaching $1 billion. The company builds award-winning software solutions for Web and graphic designers, professional publishers, document-intensive organizations, business users, and consumers. Adobe's products enable customers to create, publish and deliver visually-rich images and documents across all print and electronic media. Adobe's worldwide headquarters is in San Jose, California and its web site is located at www.adobe.com. NOTE: The Adobe logo, Adobe, Acrobat and PostScript 3 are trademarks of Adobe Systems Incorporated. Microsoft, Windows and Windows NT are either registered trademarks or trademarks of Microsoft Corporation in the United States and other countries. Sun and Solaris are trademarks of Sun Microsystems. Macintosh is a trademark of Apple Computer, Inc. registered in the USA and other countries. All other trademarks are the property of their respective owners. ___________________________________________________ P D F z o n e . C O M "Independent Hub to All Things Acrobat & PDF" Kurt Foss <-- mailto:kfoss@pdfzone.com Internet Comm. Mgr. --> (608)829-0183 ------------------------------------------------------------- ORDER NOW: Acrobat 4.0 - Upgrades $99 or Full $219 http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html _____________________________________________________________ * Adobe Acrobat 4.0 is COMING SOON! * ORDER TODAY * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 12-Apr-1999 18:35:43-GMT,2993;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id MAA27108 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 12:35:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA28648; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 13:31:59 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 12 Apr 1999 13:30:31 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA28546; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 13:30:27 -0500 Message-Id: <4.1.19990412131637.00928b60@merle.acns.nwu.edu> X-Sender: bberry@merle.acns.nwu.edu (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 13:28:22 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Bill Berry Subject: [PDF] saving incomplete forms in reader Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Hi, I'm using exchange to convert word files into PDF files to post on our web site. This PDFs are forms for various permissions, registrations, and requests in an academic research environment. These forms will ultimately be submitted to my office by the users in the laboratories, we will then enter the information into databases and file the original documents away. So, Acrobat is perfect for these forms in some respects, however, some of the forms have questions which are relatively long and narrative in nature. We don't expect investigators will be able to fill out these forms in one sitting. We would like them to be able to work on the form, save what they've done so far, and go back to it when they have time or more information. Unfortunately, Acrobat Reader doesn't seem to be able to save the modified document (form) so the user can go back and complete it at a later date. My question is this: Have I missed functionality that will enable users to save incomplete forms, or is this feature just not available in Reader. Asking these investigators to purchase Exchange in order to complete these 3 or 4 forms a year is not an option, nor is providing it for them due to budgetary restraints. (unless Adobe has some site license or multiple user license available?) If you have any suggestions, or solutions, please let me know. Thanks, Bill Berry Bill Berry Northwestern University, Evanston, IL. USA w-berry@nwu.edu _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 12-Apr-1999 19:25:57-GMT,4426;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id NAA28503 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 13:25:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA00204; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 14:20:21 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 12 Apr 1999 14:18:43 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA00041; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 14:18:41 -0500 From: "Stephen M. Aylor" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] saving incomplete forms in reader Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 12:20:39 -0700 Message-ID: <004901be8519$8d02cc40$0201a8c0@sma> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990412131637.00928b60@merle.acns.nwu.edu> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Sounds perfect for an Intranet / web based app that will allow them to submit the partial data to a db connected to a web server and be able to come back to it later, query the said db and re-load the data into the form so they can p/u where they left off. All within a web browser and using the free reader. Easy for you to say .... whuuuuwhhh Its very similar to what we're doing but for much less intelligence - insurance agents :-) Steve Aylor Aylor Insurance Agency, Inc. > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com [mailto:owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com]On > Behalf Of Bill Berry > Sent: Monday, April 12, 1999 11:28 AM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: [PDF] saving incomplete forms in reader > > > > <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> > <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> > > Hi, > > I'm using exchange to convert word files into PDF files to post on our web > site. This PDFs are forms for various permissions, registrations, and > requests in an academic research environment. These forms will ultimately > be submitted to my office by the users in the laboratories, we will then > enter the information into databases and file the original documents away. > > So, Acrobat is perfect for these forms in some respects, however, some of > the forms have questions which are relatively long and narrative > in nature. > We don't expect investigators will be able to fill out these forms in one > sitting. We would like them to be able to work on the form, save what > they've done so far, and go back to it when they have time or more > information. Unfortunately, Acrobat Reader doesn't seem to be able to save > the modified document (form) so the user can go back and complete it at a > later date. > > My question is this: Have I missed functionality that will enable users to > save incomplete forms, or is this feature just not available in Reader. > > Asking these investigators to purchase Exchange in order to complete these > 3 or 4 forms a year is not an option, nor is providing it for them due to > budgetary restraints. (unless Adobe has some site license or multiple user > license available?) > > If you have any suggestions, or solutions, please let me know. Thanks, > > Bill Berry > > Bill Berry > Northwestern University, Evanston, IL. USA > w-berry@nwu.edu > > > _____________________________________________________________ > > * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * > Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM > < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > > > _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 12-Apr-1999 19:28:30-GMT,2537;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id NAA28580 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 13:28:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA00634; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 14:25:55 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 12 Apr 1999 14:24:50 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA00526; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 14:24:49 -0500 Date: 12 Apr 99 14:27:39 -0500 From: "Norman Leonard" Subject: RE: [PDF] saving incomplete forms in reader To: pdf X-Mailer: QuickMail Pro 1.5.4 (Mac) X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-Ascii" Message-Id: <19990412141851.0d8a4a08.in@smtp.sevenww.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id OAA00522 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Reply to: RE: [PDF] saving incomplete forms in reader Bill Berry wrote: >My question is this: Have I missed functionality that will enable users to >save incomplete forms, or is this feature just not available in Reader. I would like to add a thought to the previous. I am working on a Acrobat forms project where the users may have to save form data only (FDF) and not the actual document itself. This sounds like what Bill Berry really needs(not to save the actual document). I can understand why Adobe needed to make the Save and Save As functions disabled in Reader, but why can't we import and export form data (just form data)? I seem to recall a third party producer of a plug-in that would allow this, but it has been so long that I have forgotten who . . . if you are out there please speak up! Norman J. Leonard Seven Worldwide 817 West Washington Chicago, IL 60607 nleonard@sevenww.com _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 12-Apr-1999 20:38:38-GMT,2399;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id OAA00599 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 14:38:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA06363; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 15:32:30 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 12 Apr 1999 15:29:39 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA06032; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 15:29:38 -0500 Message-Id: <199904122029.NAA11289@dodo.prod.itd.earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 13:29:38 -0700 Subject: [PDF] FW: Mac Acrobat plug-in signup list From: "C. Scott Miller" To: PDF Zone Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Thought the Mac users on this list would be interested in the following. -- C. Scott Miller PDF R_e_s_e_a_r_c_h__C_o_m_p_a_n_i_o_n A Designer's Guide to Adobe's Portable Document Format http://www.performancegraphics.com ---------- From: fletcher sandbeck To: Subject: Acrobat 4.0 Release Date: Mon, Apr 12, 1999, 12:46 PM All Macintosh Acrobat users should go to this page and register to receive an announcement of when the Windows only features have been ported to the Macintosh. [fletcher] ----------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: Archives : _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 12-Apr-1999 21:10:02-GMT,4166;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id PAA01527 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 15:10:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA09278; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 16:05:20 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 12 Apr 1999 16:03:41 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA09056; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 16:03:40 -0500 X-Sender: prodok@pop.eunet.ch Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990412131637.00928b60@merle.acns.nwu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 22:46:46 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Max Wyss Subject: Re: [PDF] saving incomplete forms in reader Cc: Bill Berry Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Bill, Reader has no built-in function to save a form in any state of completeness. You do have a few options of a workaround. If your users fill out the form under a web browser, you could supply a temporary storage on the server. Your users would submit the form to a "not yet complete" address, and you would have to provide the mechanism that they can reload it from the server. Another possibility are "persistent global variables". Read about them in the JavaScript guide for the Forms plug-in. A third possibility might be something recently came through the mailing list. Apparently Adobe is considering a downgraded version of Exchange which would be more payable. You might contact Adobe about these options. In fact, Exchange 4 has been available in bulk for a relatively good price. Considering the opportunities you have with the full product, this might be the option for you anyway. Hope, this can help. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch WWW: http://www.prodok.ch/prodok [ Bridging the Knowledge Gap ] ______________________ >Hi, > >I'm using exchange to convert word files into PDF files to post on our web >site. This PDFs are forms for various permissions, registrations, and >requests in an academic research environment. These forms will ultimately >be submitted to my office by the users in the laboratories, we will then >enter the information into databases and file the original documents away. > >So, Acrobat is perfect for these forms in some respects, however, some of >the forms have questions which are relatively long and narrative in nature. >We don't expect investigators will be able to fill out these forms in one >sitting. We would like them to be able to work on the form, save what >they've done so far, and go back to it when they have time or more >information. Unfortunately, Acrobat Reader doesn't seem to be able to save >the modified document (form) so the user can go back and complete it at a >later date. > >My question is this: Have I missed functionality that will enable users to >save incomplete forms, or is this feature just not available in Reader. > >Asking these investigators to purchase Exchange in order to complete these >3 or 4 forms a year is not an option, nor is providing it for them due to >budgetary restraints. (unless Adobe has some site license or multiple user >license available?) > >If you have any suggestions, or solutions, please let me know. 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Using the prologue.ps / epilogue.ps function, my spot colors come out fine in my PDF unless they are Quark blends, which always seem to separate as process. Any solid areas of the spot colors come out fine, and separate only on the spot plates. Help. I've tried this in Acrobat 3.02 and 4, they both do it! jeff M. _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 13-Apr-1999 0:07:43-GMT,2303;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id SAA06175 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 18:07:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA23300; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 19:03:09 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 12 Apr 1999 19:00:08 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA23064; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 19:00:06 -0500 Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 08:58:43 +0900 (JST) From: TOMITA Shigenari Message-Id: <199904122358.IAA14545@max.icu.ac.jp> To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com CC: ts@icu.ac.jp In-reply-to: <000001be8501$0f79bad0$04e78e8c@geo_ws1.u.washington.edu> (geojohn@u.washington.edu) Subject: RE: [PDF] a few FDF questions... Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> > I have written a simple CGI script that will take an input value > from a PDF > form, check it against a password file, and if successful, generate an > email. > > I understand that an HTML form is sufficient, but if I want > anything passed > back to the PDF file, I use FDF format. I would like to pass back > to the PDF > form a "Password OK" or "Password denied" message (depending on > the input). If you're using the FDF Toolkit, use FDFSetStatus. Otherwise, supply a "/Status" key in the FDF, with the message you want to be displayed. Or, make a text field where is for showing your msg, and send back a msg text in FDF. It's just the same old way in HTML, but you'll get more flexbility. :-) -- TOMITA _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 13-Apr-1999 1:25:50-GMT,2196;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id TAA07925 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 19:25:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA28542; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 20:18:35 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 12 Apr 1999 20:16:45 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA28285; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 20:16:43 -0500 X-Sent: 13 Apr 1999 01:16:34 GMT Message-ID: <01b101be854b$887409a0$04fea8c0@nt40> From: "Mark Manderson" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] populating forms from an external database file Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 18:18:24 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Our apologies, we thought that our "Signature" information transferred with the message in the PDFZone, obviously not. We have Demo software on our website at http://www.x-streem.com There are also several forms in the Forms Demo page. If you have any Questions please call us toll free at 888-XSTREEM " > >Would you please send the address to contact you in regard the Document >Management Application you refer to in your message reproduced below? > >Thank you, > >Mario E. Martinez >memartinez01@earthlink.net > _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 13-Apr-1999 8:32:46-GMT,2023;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id CAA16673 for ; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 02:32:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA21353; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 03:27:01 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 13 Apr 1999 03:22:47 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA21080; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 03:22:44 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Message-Id: Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 10:21:44 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Rainer Lischka Subject: [PDF] Personal Encryption of PDF files? Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Hi, does anyone know a software which allows the encryption of PDF files for a single computer? Such a 'personal encrypted file' should be bound to a single computer in a way that the file is unreadyble on another computer, even when the user knows the password of the file. Any hint to a software that seems to do something like that is highly appreciated. Thanks, Rainer Lischka ------------------------------------------------- Rainer Lischka Tel.: +43-(0)732-2468-517 http://www.soft.uni-linz.ac.at/Staff/Lischka.html http://www.soft.uni-linz.ac.at/Info/RL/PIF.html _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 13-Apr-1999 8:51:26-GMT,2985;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id CAA17034 for ; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 02:51:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA22767; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 03:46:54 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 13 Apr 1999 03:44:25 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA22606; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 03:44:23 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990413091610.01372e30@mailhost.cam.harlequin.co.uk> X-Sender: martinb@mailhost.cam.harlequin.co.uk X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 09:16:10 +0100 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com, pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Martin Bailey Subject: Re: [PDF] Spot Colors in PDF files In-Reply-To: <7726F2C6E32.AAA621E@mail.lasertechcolor.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> At 17:39 12/04/99 -0500, Jeff Morrison wrote: > ><- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> ><- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> > >I'm having problems with spot colors in my PDF files. Using the prologue.ps >/ epilogue.ps function, my spot colors come out fine in my PDF unless they >are Quark blends, which always seem to separate as process. Any solid areas >of the spot colors come out fine, and separate only on the spot plates. >Help. I've tried this in Acrobat 3.02 and 4, they both do it! Yup, that's what the PostScript that XPress generates asks for. Don't ask me why. It's the same for spot grads in some versions of Illustrator and FreeHand - the PostScript asks for a process grad :-( We added an option to 'fix' this in version 5.0 of Harlequin's ScriptWorks RIP. Regards Martin Bailey ---------------------------------------------------------- Digital Print & Publishing Harlequin Ltd martinb@harlequin.com http://www.harlequin.com ---------------------------------------------------------- I try to ensure that my views expressed here accord with my employers, but I am not a spokesman for Harlequin and the buck stops with me for what I say here ---------------------------------------------------------- _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 13-Apr-1999 12:33:16-GMT,2277;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id GAA21125 for ; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 06:33:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA02683; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 07:28:43 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 13 Apr 1999 07:26:16 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA02470; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 07:26:15 -0500 Message-Id: <199904131226.HAA02464@everglades.binc.net> Subject: Re: [PDF] Personal Encryption of PDF files? Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 08:25:57 -0400 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: Mark Gavin To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> [Rainer Lischka wrote on 4/13/99 4:21 AM] >does anyone know a software which allows the encryption of PDF files for a >single computer? Such a 'personal encrypted file' should be bound to a >single computer in a way that the file is unreadyble on another computer, >even when the user knows the password of the file. > >Any hint to a software that seems to do something like that is highly >appreciated. > >Thanks, >Rainer Lischka Rainer, PageVault from Authentica Security Technologies will allow you to tie a document to an individual computer. http://www.authentica-security.com. Mark Gavin Vice President, Software Development Digital Applications, Inc. 215 East Providence Road Aldan, PA, USA 19018-4129 (610) 284-4006 mgavin@DigApp.com http://www.DigApp.com _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 13-Apr-1999 14:05:50-GMT,1931;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id IAA23128 for ; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 08:05:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA10664; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 09:00:28 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 13 Apr 1999 08:54:57 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA10092; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 08:54:56 -0500 Message-ID: <37134C44.3DD605A2@te.mah.se> Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 15:53:09 +0200 From: Martin Kjellqvist X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] FDF Toolkit.. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Hello! Is there anyone who knows how FDFnextFieldName and FDFEnumValues work? I want to make a general cgi-script that recieves data from the PDF document. The problem is that you have to predefine the fields in the cgi-scipt for FDFGetValue. I have read the FDF toolkit, but doesn't really understand the examples there. If anyone could please tell me how these two functions work i would reallt appreciate it. Thanks in advanced. /Martin _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 13-Apr-1999 14:24:56-GMT,2301;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id IAA23593 for ; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 08:24:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA12547; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 09:21:45 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 13 Apr 1999 09:20:15 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA12385; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 09:20:13 -0500 From: forcutt@sco.state.id.us X-Lotus-FromDomain: SCO To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <87256752.004E40C1.00@sco.state.id.us> Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 08:17:26 -0600 Subject: Re: [PDF] saving incomplete forms in reader Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> The third option is Exchange VPP (volume purchase), the scaled-down version of Exchange which permits saving complete (and partially complete) PDF forms, although it lacks the functionality to permit users to create PDF documents. >From what I've read, Adobe is continuing the volume purchase plan under release 4. Regards, Fred Orcutt Please respond to pdf@lists.pdfzone.com A third possibility might be something recently came through the mailing list. Apparently Adobe is considering a downgraded version of Exchange which would be more payable. You might contact Adobe about these options. In fact, Exchange 4 has been available in bulk for a relatively good price. Considering the opportunities you have with the full product, this might be the option for you anyway. Hope, this can help. Max Wyss ______________________ _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 13-Apr-1999 18:26:22-GMT,2391;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id MAA00482 for ; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 12:26:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA00346; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 13:19:23 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 13 Apr 1999 13:17:21 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA00057; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 13:17:18 -0500 Message-ID: <37138A13.8413F71@adobe.com> Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 11:16:51 -0700 From: Roberto Perelman Organization: Adobe Systems Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] FDF Toolkit.. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> > Is there anyone who knows how FDFnextFieldName and FDFEnumValues work? FDFNextFieldName returns to you the next field name after the one you pass as parameter. You can use this to enumerate all the fields, by starting a loop where you initially pass NULL, and it returns the first field name (which you use for whatever you want, e.g. to call FDFGetValue), then you pass this first name as parameter to FDFNextFieldName and it returns the second field name, etc. Clear? FDFEnumValues is used to get all the field values without knowing what the field names are (FDFNextFieldName can also be used for the same purpose; it's a matter of preference). When you call FDFEnumValues, you pass a function pointer, and FDFEnumValues calls your function passing each field value in turn as parameter. Clear? Roberto Perelman Acrobat Engineering, Forms _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 13-Apr-1999 18:32:40-GMT,1654;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id MAA00687 for ; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 12:32:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA01439; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 13:29:12 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 13 Apr 1999 13:27:32 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA01224; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 13:27:31 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC2C706823FD211963400805FBEDF4E4F7A90@gsomail> From: "Perry, Bob" To: PDF List Subject: [PDF] submit PDF as URL-encoded Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 13:27:15 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Does anyone know of any examples of a PDF form being submitted as URL encoded? I'm looking for some tips on how I can submit my PDF to an ASP page. Thanks, -Bob Perry -ASA Inc _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 13-Apr-1999 17:37:19-GMT,2381;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id LAA28857 for ; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 11:37:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA28756; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 12:28:22 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 13 Apr 1999 12:24:59 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA28374; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 12:24:57 -0500 From: "Diana Holm" To: Cc: Subject: [PDF] Personal Encryption of PDF files? Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 13:26:39 -0400 Message-ID: <000101be85d2$ca04ef60$9cdda4d8@953166926worldnet.att.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <199904130822.DAA21099@everglades.binc.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> > does anyone know a software which allows the encryption of PDF files for a > single computer? Such a 'personal encrypted file' should be bound to a > single computer in a way that the file is unreadyble on another computer, > even when the user knows the password of the file. Rainer, FileOpen PDF locks PDF documents to individual machines while rendering password entry unnecessary. For more information download a trial version from our Web site or contact me directly. Diana Holm Director of Marketing FileOpen Systems Inc. 101 W. 85th Street, Suite 1-4 New York, NY 10024 212-877-3183 http://www.fileopen.com _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 13-Apr-1999 21:54:57-GMT,1879;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id PAA06630 for ; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 15:54:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA18018; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 16:42:38 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 13 Apr 1999 16:40:45 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA17860; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 16:40:43 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.01 (295) Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 16:41:05 -0500 Subject: [PDF] Spot Color PDF's From: "Jeff Morrison" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <7726F329EEE.AAA60ED@mail.lasertechcolor.com> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Could anyone suggest a solution for maintaining spot colors in a PDF? My solid spot colors work fine, but anytime I use a gradient in Quark or Illustrator it converts to CMYK. The only solution I know of is to send as separations, but then I do not have a composite PDF, making it impossible to proof. Any suggestions? Jeff M _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 13-Apr-1999 23:11:43-GMT,2093;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id RAA08554 for ; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 17:11:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA24260; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 18:06:19 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 13 Apr 1999 18:03:19 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA24040; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 18:03:18 -0500 Message-Id: <199904132303.QAA10241@dodo.prod.itd.earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 16:03:20 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Spot Color PDF's From: "C. Scott Miller" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> > Could anyone suggest a solution for maintaining spot colors in a PDF? You might want to look at OneVision DigiScript (called Solvero for Windows NT) at http://www.one-vision.com. I'm looking at a tear-sheet from Seybold/Boston of an article that ran in Electronic Publishing (Oct. 1998). You can download the article at ftp://ftp.one-vision.com/download/MLdoc.pdf. -- HTH, C. Scott Miller PDF R_e_s_e_a_r_c_h__C_o_m_p_a_n_i_o_n A Designer's Guide to Adobe's Portable Document Format http://www.performancegraphics.com _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 14-Apr-1999 4:32:17-GMT,4302;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id WAA15844 for ; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 22:32:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA13837; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 23:27:33 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 13 Apr 1999 23:24:50 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA13611; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 23:24:49 -0500 Message-Id: <199904140424.XAA13606@everglades.binc.net> Date: 14 Apr 99 06:29:05 +0000 From: Richard Lauterkranz Subject: Re: [PDF] Spot Color PDF's To: pdf X-Mailer: QuickMail Pro 1.5 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-Ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Hi Yes onevisions Solvero works fine. Even it is not runing as fast as exchange with crackerjack and pitstop it does all the things you miss in the "pure" pdf workflow because it interprets your pdf with a level 2 rip inside a display-postscript environement. You even can search and replace spot colors or convert them to any colorsystem with the help of ICC-Profiles or mixing-palettes. We work for about 2 years with this produkt and it fills the 20% gap that the prepress scene misses in PDF-Workflow. C. Scott Miller wrote: > ><- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> ><- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> > >> Could anyone suggest a solution for maintaining spot colors in a PDF? > >You might want to look at OneVision DigiScript (called Solvero for Windows >NT) at http://www.one-vision.com. I'm looking at a tear-sheet from >Seybold/Boston of an article that ran in Electronic Publishing (Oct. 1998). >You can download the article at ftp://ftp.one-vision.com/download/MLdoc.p df. > >-- >HTH, >C. Scott Miller > >PDF R_e_s_e_a_r_c_h__C_o_m_p_a_n_i_o_n >A Designer's Guide to Adobe's Portable Document Format >http://www.performancegraphics.com > >_____________________________________________________________ > > * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * > Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM > < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > > > >RFC822 header >----------------------------------- > >Return-Path: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com >Received: from everglades.binc.net ([208.155.48.8] verified) by >www.lauterkranz.com (Stalker SMTP Server 1.6) with ESMTP id S.0000020023 for >; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 00:09:48 +0000 >Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) > by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA24192; > Tue, 13 Apr 1999 18:05:52 -0500 >Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 13 Apr 1999 >18:03:19 -0500 >Received: (from majordom@localhost) > by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA24040; > Tue, 13 Apr 1999 18:03:18 -0500 >Message-Id: <199904132303.QAA10241@dodo.prod.itd.earthlink.net> >X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) >Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 16:03:20 -0700 >Subject: Re: [PDF] Spot Color PDF's >From: "C. Scott Miller" >To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com >Mime-version: 1.0 >X-Priority: 3 >Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" >Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit >Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com >Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com >X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html >X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html >X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com > _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 14-Apr-1999 9:38:07-GMT,2048;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id DAA22095 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 03:38:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA31450; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 04:33:43 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 14 Apr 1999 04:30:32 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA31129; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 04:30:30 -0500 Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 11:24:56 +0200 From: "Dembner, Steve (FODA)" Subject: [PDF] Tool for batch editing of base url in pdfs? To: "'pdf-list'" Message-id: <01JA0SHATZBE8Y53TZ@faov02.fao.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Can anyone recommend a tool for batch editing of base urls in pdfs (preferably on the Mac platform)? Amiba's Composer Batchmeister can enter a base url in multiple documents, but cannot edit existing ones. Thanks. Replies to the list or directly to Stephen A. Dembner Publications and Information Coordinator Forestry Department Food and Agriculture Organization of the United Nations Viale delle Terme di Caracalla 00100 Rome Italy Tel:+39-06-57054778 Fax:+39-06-57053024/ 57052152 email: steve.dembner@fao.org www: http://www.fao.org/fo _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 14-Apr-1999 9:57:02-GMT,2462;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id DAA22442 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 03:57:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA00224; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 04:54:16 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 14 Apr 1999 04:52:55 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA00078; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 04:52:54 -0500 Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 18:51:31 +0900 (JST) From: TOMITA Shigenari Message-Id: <199904140951.SAA22909@max.icu.ac.jp> To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com CC: ts@icu.ac.jp In-reply-to: <37134C44.3DD605A2@te.mah.se> (message from Martin Kjellqvist on Tue, 13 Apr 1999 15:53:09 +0200) Subject: Re: [PDF] FDF Toolkit.. Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Hello Martin, I'm not sure why you stick on FDF method, but if you just want to read data into your CGI environment, you can select HTML format instead of FDF format. PDF forms always send them in POST method if you choose HTML format(URL encoding) for your submit button in PDF forms. No new tech docs are needed to read at all. :) -- TOMITA Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 15:53:09 +0200 From: Martin Kjellqvist Hello! Is there anyone who knows how FDFnextFieldName and FDFEnumValues work? I want to make a general cgi-script that recieves data from the PDF document. The problem is that you have to predefine the fields in the cgi-scipt for FDFGetValue. I have read the FDF toolkit, but doesn't really understand the examples there. If anyone could please tell me how these two functions work i would reallt appreciate it. Thanks in advanced. /Martin _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 14-Apr-1999 11:57:38-GMT,1730;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id FAA24641 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 05:57:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA06821; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 06:49:21 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 14 Apr 1999 06:47:45 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA06672; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 06:47:44 -0500 Message-ID: <371480AE.130A6261@completepicture.co.uk> Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 12:49:02 +0100 From: Paul Dennis X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: PDF Zone Subject: [PDF] Links Fix Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Anybody out there aware of a batch utility that can search for links in a batch of files and change the properties in particular the magnification properties from fit to view to fixed 100% Thanks Paul _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 14-Apr-1999 12:09:33-GMT,2250;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id GAA24868 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 06:09:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA07880; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 07:04:58 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 14 Apr 1999 07:03:50 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA07783; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 07:03:49 -0500 Message-Id: <199904141203.HAA07778@everglades.binc.net> X-Sender: consult@pop3.cybercable.fr X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.2 Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 14:05:23 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Franck Filhoulaud Subject: Re: [PDF] Links Fix Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> See "Compose" from Ambia corp. http://www.ambia.com F. Filhoulaud At 12:49 14/04/99 +0100, you wrote: > ><- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> ><- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> > >Anybody out there aware of a batch utility that can search for links in >a batch of files and change the properties in particular the >magnification properties from fit to view to fixed 100% > >Thanks >Paul > > >_____________________________________________________________ > > * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * > Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM > < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > > _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 14-Apr-1999 13:01:27-GMT,3147;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id HAA26006 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 07:01:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA10146; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 07:38:18 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 14 Apr 1999 07:36:46 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA09979; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 07:36:44 -0500 From: Adair.Broughton@upm-kymmene.com X-OpenMail-Hops: 4 Date: Wed, 14 Apr 99 13:33:00 +0100 Message-Id: <"71750:1*"@MHS> Subject: [PDF] Problems with PDF Links MIME-Version: 1.0 TO: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com CC: Paul.Nightingale@upm-kymmene.com Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="openmail-part-01c7759e-00000001" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> --openmail-part-01c7759e-00000001 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; name="Lotus" Content-Disposition: inline; filename="Lotus" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Please help. I am experiencing problems with links to network files in .PDF documents= using: Exchange 3.0 to create the documents Windows NT 4.0 sp 3 / Windows NT 4.0 sp 4 Novell Netware 4.11 Exchange 3.01 / Acrobat Reader 3.01 / Acrobat Reader 4.0 to view the documents Documents are created and links (mainly to AutoCAD .DWG files and .TIF files, on the same network drive) are establshed in a working directory.= Ordinarily when the .PDF files are transferred to a production directory= , the links remain intact. However, following a recent Netware server upgrade, all old links now fail with the error message: "Could not open the specified file '../.../.../.../.../.../.../W/X/Y/Z/A.DWG' (where W,X,Y,Z, and A represe= nt directory and file names, all in 8.3 format)" During the hardware upgrade, the network drive was mapped to a different= physical disk array, but this has been invisible to all other applicatio= ns, as expected. Any comments would be much appreciated as many hundreds of files and thousands of links are involved - I am relctant to reconstruct the links= if they can be so easily lost. Thank you. Adair Broughton --openmail-part-01c7759e-00000001 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; name="Lotus" Content-Disposition: inline; filename="Lotus" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Signed by : Adair Broughton/SHO/UPM Signed on : 04/14/99 15:37:31 Certifier : NOTESGATE2/MAILNET --openmail-part-01c7759e-00000001-- _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 14-Apr-1999 13:13:39-GMT,2766;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id HAA26253 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 07:13:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA12833; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 08:09:52 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 14 Apr 1999 08:08:09 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA12667; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 08:08:05 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 18:56:15 -0400 Message-ID: <000BD055.C21395@hearst.com> From: ksandler@hearst.com (Kathy Sandler) Subject: [PDF] PDF from PowerPoint To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Hi all, I take minutes at the monthly meetings of the Digital Ad Lab (see http:// www.digitaladlab.com/meeting_notes.html). I'm trying to create PDF files using Distiller out of some PowerPoint presentations that were shown at the last meeting. No matter what I seem to try, at least one out of the two is coming out B&W instead of color. I saw a question about this on Adobe's Web site, but I tried everything it said. I've also tried following Adobe's "How to Create Adobe PDF Files for Print and Press" to no avail. I'm using Distiller 3.02, Virtual Printer 8.51, Acrobat Distiller 3.0 PPD, Adobe PS 8.51 Chooser printer driver, and PowerPoint Office '98 on a Macintosh. This file is in color on my screen in PowerPoint, but B&W once I create a PDF and view it in Exchange. Is it possible I have a corrupt file or is there a setting someone can point me to in PowerPoint? Thanks, Kathy Sandler Mgr. of Training and Info. Svcs., Publishing Technology Dept., Hearst Magazines and WIP Ex-Officio 1998-1999 P.S. No one responded to me in my search for a publisher who uses PDF to speak at a 6/3 WIP (www.wip.org) luncheon program on PDF in NYC. If you are such a person (or, suppliers if you can recommend customers to speak) please contact me at ksandler@hearst.com. _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 14-Apr-1999 13:29:30-GMT,2483;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id HAA26613 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 07:29:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA14298; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 08:24:44 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 14 Apr 1999 08:23:35 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA14134; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 08:23:34 -0500 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF from PowerPoint In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 13 Apr 1999 18:56:15 EDT." <000BD055.C21395@hearst.com> Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 14:23:30 +0100 Message-ID: <18593.924096210@MessagingDirect.com> From: Chris Ridd Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> On Tue, 13 Apr 1999 18:56:15 EDT, Kathy Sandler wrote: > > <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> > <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> > > Hi all, > > I take minutes at the monthly meetings of the Digital Ad Lab (see http:// > www.digitaladlab.com/meeting_notes.html). I'm trying to create PDF files using > Distiller out of some PowerPoint presentations that were shown at the last > meeting. No matter what I seem to try, at least one out of the two is coming out > B&W instead of color. [...] > Is it possible I have a corrupt file or is there a setting someone can point > me to in PowerPoint? There is a "print as black and white" setting in the Powerpoint Page (Slide?) Setup. Also make sure the printer driver has been set to output colour both times. If the PS file doesn't have colour in it, your PDF file won't either! Chris (Was c.ridd@isode.com, now is chris.ridd@messagingdirect.com) _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 14-Apr-1999 14:56:52-GMT,2265;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id IAA28722 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 08:56:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA21700; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 09:38:52 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 14 Apr 1999 09:34:27 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA21243; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 09:34:25 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990414103553.00855100@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 10:35:53 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF from PowerPoint In-Reply-To: <000BD055.C21395@hearst.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> > >I take minutes at the monthly meetings of the Digital Ad Lab (see http:// >www.digitaladlab.com/meeting_notes.html). I'm trying to create PDF files using >Distiller out of some PowerPoint presentations that were shown at the last >meeting. No matter what I seem to try, at least one out of the two is coming out >B&W instead of color. PowerPoint seems to default to b/w printing at inappropriate times, it seems. Have you made sure to remove the x next to B/W in the PPT print dialog? Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 14-Apr-1999 16:24:36-GMT,2338;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id KAA01282 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 10:24:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA31451; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 11:17:37 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 14 Apr 1999 11:15:20 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA31223; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 11:15:18 -0500 From: "George Johnson" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] submitting URL encoded forms Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 09:15:36 -0700 Message-ID: <000001be8692$07dd8da0$04e78e8c@geo_ws1.u.washington.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-reply-to: <3FC2C706823FD211963400805FBEDF4E4F79E4@gsomail> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> > In a PDF form I am submitting the data as URL-encoded. Can this > be submitted > to an ASP page? I am submitting to http://gsowebdev/intranet/pdf_form.asp > and not having any luck. The html version of this form is submitted to an > ASP address and works fine. Can anybody recommend any good > resources here? If the ASP script is expecting the form data to be in the QueryString collection (Request.QueryString) as a result of a GET, then it will have to be rewritten to look for the form data in the Form collection (Request.Form) since the PDF form submits the data with the POST method. _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 14-Apr-1999 16:24:38-GMT,2708;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id KAA01286 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 10:24:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA31620; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 11:19:23 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 14 Apr 1999 11:18:19 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA31512; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 11:18:18 -0500 Message-Id: <199904141618.JAA08519@wren.prod.itd.earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 09:17:56 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF from PowerPoint From: "C. Scott Miller" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> > Is it possible I have a corrupt file or is there a setting someone can point > me to in PowerPoint? It is easy to end up with B&W out of PowerPoint even if you do not mean to - so you should definitely check your Page Setup and Print dialogs carefully before outputting. Your minutes do not appear to have any postscript in them. You might try PDFWriter as your driver out of PowerPoint. Strangely enough, some Office apps work more reliably with it than using Distiller (unless the source file has any EPS or PS content).. Also, use the AdobePS driver (if you are not already) for work that will be distilled. A b&w printer's driver will probably create b&w postscript and PDF. Check the Adobe's Download site for Printer Drivers (http://www.adobe.com/supportservice/custsupport/download.html) for your specific platform and language. My other notes concerning PDFs and on-screen presentations are available at http://www.performancegraphics.com/Pages/usepres.html#HowTo. -- HTH, C. Scott Miller PDF R_e_s_e_a_r_c_h__C_o_m_p_a_n_i_o_n A Designer's Guide to Adobe's Portable Document Format http://www.performancegraphics.com _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 14-Apr-1999 18:13:50-GMT,2305;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id MAA04284 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 12:13:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA09324; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 13:09:33 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 14 Apr 1999 13:07:37 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA09063; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 13:07:36 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990414140900.0087bc60@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 14:09:00 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF from PowerPoint In-Reply-To: <199904141618.JAA08519@wren.prod.itd.earthlink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> >Your minutes do not appear to have any postscript in them. You might try >PDFWriter as your driver out of PowerPoint. Strangely enough, some Office >apps work more reliably with it than using Distiller (unless the source file >has any EPS or PS content).. This may be true of PowerPoint98 on the Mac ... I don't know, haven't tried it. PowerPoint97/Windows, though, is devoutly anti-PDFWriter. Most of the problems can be worked around one way or another, but generally, it's simpler to use Distiller. Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 14-Apr-1999 18:35:57-GMT,2150;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id MAA04829 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 12:35:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA12082; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 13:31:37 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 14 Apr 1999 13:30:07 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA11835; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 13:30:04 -0500 X-Sender: prodok@pop.eunet.ch Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <371480AE.130A6261@completepicture.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 20:17:23 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Max Wyss Subject: Re: [PDF] Links Fix Cc: Paul Dennis Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Paul, you might look at the link tools by Dan Ari Feinberg of Dionis (http://www.dionis.com). Hope, this can help. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch WWW: http://www.prodok.ch/prodok [ Bridging the Knowledge Gap ] ______________________ >Anybody out there aware of a batch utility that can search for links in >a batch of files and change the properties in particular the >magnification properties from fit to view to fixed 100% > >Thanks >Paul > _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 14-Apr-1999 20:31:02-GMT,2764;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id OAA07874 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 14:31:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA25333; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 15:24:32 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 14 Apr 1999 15:23:24 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA25118; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 15:23:22 -0500 Message-ID: <3714F98F.E78DDD3C@completepicture.co.uk> Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 21:24:47 +0100 From: Paul Dennis X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Links Fix References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Thanks Max I'll have a look but I think like all the others it only changes the attributes i.e. colour etc. Paul Max Wyss wrote: > <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> > <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> > > Paul, > > you might look at the link tools by Dan Ari Feinberg of Dionis > (http://www.dionis.com). > > Hope, this can help. > > Max Wyss > PRODOK Engineering > Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing > CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland > > Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 > e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch > WWW: http://www.prodok.ch/prodok > > [ Bridging the Knowledge Gap ] > > ______________________ > > >Anybody out there aware of a batch utility that can search for links in > >a batch of files and change the properties in particular the > >magnification properties from fit to view to fixed 100% > > > >Thanks > >Paul > > > > _____________________________________________________________ > > * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * > Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM > < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 14-Apr-1999 20:32:57-GMT,2879;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id OAA07938 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 14:32:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA24674; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 15:18:40 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 14 Apr 1999 15:15:59 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA24277; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 15:15:57 -0500 Message-ID: <30724FF712DFD2119E6200104B24489210C83E@mail1> From: Robin Clark To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Inserted PDF -> Bookmarks/Links Don't Work Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 15:14:40 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Sys Specs: Win95; FrameMaker 5.5.6; Exchange 3.01; Distiller 3.02; Driver 4.2.5 I have a manual created in FrameMaker, in which the core chapters are portrait and the appendix is landscape tables. After much investigation with multiple printer drivers, it appears that I must create 2 separate ps files (else the appendix will be truncated; the "save-as PDF" function from within FM does not solve this problem). I want one PDF file. So I create PDF1 (the core chapters) and PDF2 (the appendix). Via Exchange, I insert PDF2 into PDF1 and save as PDF3. None of the bookmarks for PDF2 work; also, when I click on an xref from a core chapter to the appendix, Exchange opens PDF1 at its titlepage. (Even if I save the merged PDF as PDF1, the xrefs open the original PDF1 file that officially no longer exists!) Per this phenomenon, I'm assuming that the PDF process changes the xrefs from FM-specific to PDF file-specific; thus, having 2 ps/PDF files severs the links. The various PDF archives seem to confirm my suspicion. Is there a way to fix or avoid this problem? Should I consider placing PDFMarks in the core chapters to act as xrefs/links to the appendix? Even better: anyone know of a proven driver that will print a single ps file that contains both portrait and landscape pages? Thanks! Robin (yup, I queried Frame-related lists but got no answers thus far) _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 14-Apr-1999 21:31:46-GMT,1948;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id PAA09520 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 15:31:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA32173; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 16:26:57 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 14 Apr 1999 16:25:07 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA31912; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 16:25:04 -0500 Subject: [PDF] Database Script To Opening PDF files To A Specific Page Date: Wed, 14 Apr 99 17:29:17 -0400 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: jwalker To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Message-ID: <19990414213249500.AAA195@webstar.binex.com@[154.5.15.145]> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id QAA31901 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Any pointers on the following, please? Iım trying to write a script in a database (FileMaker Pro 4.0 WIN) that will allow opening a PDF file to a specific page (e.g.: test.pdf page 6). Next, if possible, I'd like to make a link from the PDF and the specific page to the corresponding database record. John Walker _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 15-Apr-1999 14:38:35-GMT,2218;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id IAA00935 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 08:38:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA04841; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 09:31:36 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 15 Apr 1999 09:27:31 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA04437; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 09:27:26 -0500 Message-ID: <30724FF712DFD2119E6200104B24489210CB49@mail1> From: Robin Clark To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] Inserted PDF -> Bookmarks/Links Don't Work SOLUTION Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 09:26:17 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Jerry, Immediately after reading your response, my left palm hit my forehead. I tried it out this morning. Am pleased to report that this strategy worked like a charm - not only do I have a single PDF in which all links work, Distiller figured out the "true" page size & orientation so that I did not have to crop or rotate. Happiness abounds. Thank you! R -----Original Message----- From: Davison, Jerry [mailto:jdavison@multi-ad.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 1999 3:47 PM To: rmclark Subject: RE: [PDF] Inserted PDF -> Bookmarks/Links Don't Work Couldn't you just distill all at once at a custom size (full width landscape x full height portrait) and then crop twice? Jerry Davison _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 15-Apr-1999 15:40:39-GMT,2957;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id JAA02472 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 09:40:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA10374; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 10:33:18 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 15 Apr 1999 10:29:00 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA09928; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 10:28:58 -0500 From: randall.larson-maynard@ind.alstom.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: GA To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 08:24:47 -0700 Subject: [PDF] AutoCad v.14 to .EPS to .PDF scaling issue Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> I searched the archive and did not come up with an answer to this particular problem. Please bear with me if it has already been dealt with: Using: Windows NT 4.00.1348 AutoCad R14 w/ PostScript Export Options: Extents, Scale to Print, A Size Acrobat Distiller 3.02 I am trying to distill an EPS file, generated from AutoCad v14, into a PDF file. Scaling is the issue. If I use the above settings for the EPS file, the image ends up about 1/3 of the final page size (8.5 x 11, landscape) in PDF. If I use manual scaling, I can come close to getting the scale correct, but then the image is cut off on the right side by about 1.5 inches. When I say cut off, I mean the image fits on the page, but the right side of the image is not there (I tried zooming and sizing the page different ways in the window). The person who did this conversion several months ago says that he just exported into EPS , then distilled to PDF and everything fit perfect. He is right, it does fit perfect, but not for me. He says he did nothing to the settings; just clicked and he went merrily along to PDF-land! Argh! What I'm looking for is the "secret decoder ring" to get drawings from AutoCad into pdf for web site browsing/distribution and CD distribution. Any help would be greatly appreciated! Randall Larson-Maynard Technical Writer Alstom Automation Schilling Robotics Davis, CA, USA randall.larson-maynard@ind.alstom.com www.schilling.com _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 15-Apr-1999 16:03:54-GMT,2947;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id KAA03131 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 10:03:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA12702; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 10:59:03 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 15 Apr 1999 10:57:42 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA12556; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 10:57:41 -0500 Message-ID: <917E1F16FC35D211A19900A0C9C585B6A3353B@nts24.deltec.com> From: Darryl Zurn To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Creating Bar codes in PDF files Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 10:57:31 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> I am creating PDF forms for use as labeling printers. Creating the layout in PageMaker on the Mac, distill to PDF and add form fields with Javascript validation and calculation, then fill-in/print labels on a PC using Acrobat Reader. Question number one is how to create a serialized PDF form. The user enters a starting number and an ending number, and then prints out that many labels with the serial number on each. I'm sure I can create a page template and spawn one additional page for each serial number, but is there a better way to do this? Question two (the hard one!): I need to also encode the serial numbers from question one as a bar code of some kind. It doesn't appear that embedding a bar code font will work, because (at least in Acrobat 3.01) the only fonts that can be used as an appearance for form fields are the basic 13 fonts. I can't tell if pdfmark has the functionality I need either. Can I create a simple bar code using Javascript calculations? I'm trying to convince the production people to use OCR instead of bar codes, but if not then I need to print these bar codes. Thanks in advance. -- Darryl Zurn +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ [ Darryl A. Zurn ] [ SIMS Deltec, Inc. Sr. Graphics Illustrator ] [ 1265 Grey Fox Road M/S 6530 St. Paul MN 55112 ] [ Voice: 651.628.7354 Fax: 651.628.7457 ] +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 15-Apr-1999 18:45:12-GMT,5034;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id MAA07940 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 12:45:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA26152; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 13:36:28 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 15 Apr 1999 13:33:13 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA25901; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 13:33:06 -0500 Date: 15 Apr 99 13:35:55 -0500 From: "Norman Leonard" Subject: RE: [PDF] [PDF- javascript 'animation' in acro exchange] To: pdf X-Mailer: QuickMail Pro 1.5.4 (Mac) X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-Ascii" Message-Id: <19990415132636.0666651f.in@smtp.sevenww.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id NAA25887 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Reply to: RE: [PDF] [PDF- javascript 'animation' in acro exchange] You may try using the "delay = true/false" call in cooperation with a dedicated loop function. Previous to executing the statement, set the delay to true (also applying the setTimeout() function), then after the statement is executed set the delay to false. zapnews wrote: > ><- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> ><- ...via PDFzone.COM at > -> > >Hi > >Using Acrobat forms and javascript I want to create a very simple >'animation' >(of sorts) that plays when a page is opened. It is very simple, a >series of >'button' graphics will display in sequence - much like you can do in >Powerpoint >(or a multimedia package). > >Creating a 'timer' is not too hard - using Date() - the scripts that >should >display each graphic execute correctly, with a 1 second pause in >between - I >have commands to print to the console when the scripts execute, >and all this >executes as it should, BUT - it appears that Acrobat runs all the >scripts, and >buffers all screen rendering events until all the scripts have finished >executing, then (after a long pause) redraws everything all at once. > >Well, I guess it sees all this as being attached to *one* event, >namely Page >Open - so it draws the document once only, after all the Javascripts >have >played. > >Is there any way to tell acrobat to re-render the screen after each >script? > >Chris W > > >_________________________________________________________ >____ > > * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * > Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM > < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html >> > > >RFC822 header >----------------------------------- > > From owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Thu Apr 15 00:20:35 1999 > Received: by smtp.sevenww.com from localhost > (router,QMProSrv V2.6); Thu, 15 Apr 1999 00:20:35 -0500 > Received: by smtp.sevenww.com from everglades.binc.net > (208.155.48.8::mail daemon; unverified,QMProSrv V2.6); Thu, 15 >Apr 1999 00:20:34 -0500 > Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) > by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA03596; > Thu, 15 Apr 1999 00:21:06 -0500 > Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 15 Apr >1999 00:19:21 -0500 > Received: (from majordom@localhost) > by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA03489; > Thu, 15 Apr 1999 00:19:14 -0500 > Message-ID: <371576E5.E51C8D71@netspace.net.au> > Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 15:19:35 +1000 > From: zapnews > Organization: Zap Whizz Design > X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 (Macintosh; I; PPC) > X-Accept-Language: en > MIME-Version: 1.0 > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: [PDF] [PDF- javascript 'animation' in acro exchange] > References: <199904140930.EAA31148@everglades.binc.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-2022-jp; >x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html > X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html > X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com > Norman J. Leonard Technical Solutions Developer Seven Worldwide 817 West Washington Chicago, IL 60607 nleonard@sevenww.com _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 15-Apr-1999 19:57:27-GMT,2499;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id NAA09807 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 13:57:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA32521; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 14:52:16 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 15 Apr 1999 14:50:16 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA32310; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 14:50:15 -0500 Message-Id: <371642EE.9FEF8B76@sr.hp.com> Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 12:50:06 -0700 From: Carolyne Gibson Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (X11; U; HP-UX B.10.20 9000/715) X-Accept-Language: en Mime-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF doesn't display some fonts References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> I'm getting this same message, but on an NT/SP3 system...using basic-35 PostScript fonts exclusively! I'm subsetting below 50% (which tends to exclude extended characters only), and am touching up on the very same machine I used to create the PDF. The font locations list points specifically to the psfonts folder (and to all other folders on the system that contain fonts, TrueType OR PostScript). I AM, however, using ATM Deluxe, with the PostScript fonts in an activated set. Opinions? Suggestions? Commiseration? Tom Livingston said: > I too have problems (on a PC, Win 95) using the text > touch-up tool on True Type text in a PDF file created via > the distiller. The warning I get is that "a subset of this > font is embedded in the document but is not installed on > your system. You cannot edit text in this font." _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 15-Apr-1999 19:57:38-GMT,4040;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id NAA09817 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 13:57:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA00013; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 14:54:21 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 15 Apr 1999 14:53:17 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA32609; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 14:53:16 -0500 X-Sender: prodok@pop.eunet.ch Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <917E1F16FC35D211A19900A0C9C585B6A3353B@nts24.deltec.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 21:34:45 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Max Wyss Subject: Re: [PDF] Creating Bar codes in PDF files Cc: Darryl Zurn Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Darryl, Bar codes is a tough one, indeed. You would need a form field for the bar code, but you can not use any other font in that field besides the base 14 fonts, and that does not include a bar code font. However, I may have an approach to the problem. This also makes clear that OCR may be a problem too, unless you can use one of those base 14 fonts. If you need a specific OCR font, you will have the same problem as with a bar code font. With serial numbers, it depends on whether you print label per label or you do a batch run. For a batch run, you would use the template function, but then, that one will not work with Reader. For Reader, you would have to prepare a document which you populate and then print. I could imagine a document with, let's say, 100 labels, which you have prepared in Exchange, using the Template function. When you can print one label after another, you can use a field and a variable for the serial number. You increment that variable with each print command. Hope, this can help. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch WWW: http://www.prodok.ch/prodok [ Bridging the Knowledge Gap ] ______________________ >I am creating PDF forms for use as labeling printers. Creating the layout in >PageMaker on the Mac, distill to PDF and add form fields with Javascript >validation and calculation, then fill-in/print labels on a PC using Acrobat >Reader. > >Question number one is how to create a serialized PDF form. The user enters >a starting number and an ending number, and then prints out that many labels >with the serial number on each. I'm sure I can create a page template and >spawn one additional page for each serial number, but is there a better way >to do this? > >Question two (the hard one!): I need to also encode the serial numbers from >question one as a bar code of some kind. It doesn't appear that embedding a >bar code font will work, because (at least in Acrobat 3.01) the only fonts >that can be used as an appearance for form fields are the basic 13 fonts. I >can't tell if pdfmark has the functionality I need either. > >Can I create a simple bar code using Javascript calculations? I'm trying to >convince the production people to use OCR instead of bar codes, but if not >then I need to print these bar codes. Thanks in advance. > >-- Darryl Zurn _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 15-Apr-1999 21:57:38-GMT,2900;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id PAA13215 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 15:57:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA10602; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 16:52:14 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 15 Apr 1999 16:50:14 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA10396; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 16:50:13 -0500 From: "David Kavanagh" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Links Fix Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 22:52:09 +0100 Message-ID: <000401be878a$36178420$b3e52ac2@godzilla> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 In-Reply-To: <371480AE.130A6261@completepicture.co.uk> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> CloneLink, from PDF Solutions should be able to help you out. It can be downloaded for free from www.pdf-solutions.com. The current version can only process single PDF files, but we are current Beta testing a new version that can process whole directories. If you'd like to be included in the Beta test, please let me know. David Kavanagh, PDF Solutions Ltd. > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com [mailto:owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com]On > Behalf Of Paul Dennis > Sent: 14 April 1999 12:49 > To: PDF Zone > Subject: [PDF] Links Fix > > > > <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> > <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> > > Anybody out there aware of a batch utility that can search for links in > a batch of files and change the properties in particular the > magnification properties from fit to view to fixed 100% > > Thanks > Paul > > > _____________________________________________________________ > > * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * > Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM > < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > > _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 16-Apr-1999 1:45:24-GMT,4242;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id TAA18413 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 19:44:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA26077; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 20:36:14 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 15 Apr 1999 20:33:52 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA25899; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 20:33:51 -0500 Message-ID: <371694F7.406A7C55@avenza.com> Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 21:40:07 -0400 From: Ted Florence Organization: Avenza X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] AutoCad v.14 to .EPS to .PDF scaling issue References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Perhaps you'd like to try our MAPublisher product. It will not work yet with v14 files but if you save them as v12 you can get them into Illustrator with all the attributes as well. from illustrator it is a very obvious path to PDF. Download our demo and give it a try. Good luck in any event randall.larson-maynard@ind.alstom.com wrote: > > <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> > <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> > > I searched the archive and did not come up with an answer to this particular > problem. Please bear with me if it has already been dealt with: > > Using: > > Windows NT 4.00.1348 > AutoCad R14 w/ PostScript Export Options: Extents, Scale to Print, A Size > Acrobat Distiller 3.02 > > I am trying to distill an EPS file, generated from AutoCad v14, into a PDF file. > Scaling is the issue. If I use the above settings for the EPS file, the image > ends up about 1/3 of the final page size (8.5 x 11, landscape) in PDF. If I use > manual scaling, I can come close to getting the scale correct, but then the > image is cut off on the right side by about 1.5 inches. > When I say cut off, I mean the image fits on the page, but the right side of the > image is not there (I tried zooming and sizing the page different ways in the > window). The person who did this conversion several months ago says that he just > exported into EPS , then distilled to PDF and everything fit perfect. He is > right, it does fit perfect, but not for me. He says he did nothing to the > settings; just clicked and he went merrily along to PDF-land! Argh! > > What I'm looking for is the "secret decoder ring" to get drawings from AutoCad > into pdf for web site browsing/distribution and CD distribution. > > Any help would be greatly appreciated! > > Randall Larson-Maynard > Technical Writer > Alstom Automation Schilling Robotics > Davis, CA, USA > randall.larson-maynard@ind.alstom.com > www.schilling.com > > _____________________________________________________________ > > * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * > Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM > < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > -- Ted Florence ted@avenza.com Coming soon -> pdfPlus for Mac and Windows Avenza Software (905) 639-3330 www.avenza.com Developers of MAPublisher, MAPublisher-GPS & pdfPlus (JAMBuddy) ***** Bridging the gap between your GIS and major graphics software ***** Check out JAMBuddy and make your graphics INTELLIGENT *******MAKE YOUR PICTURES WORTH 1000 WORDS******* _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 16-Apr-1999 3:57:15-GMT,2748;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id VAA21276 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 21:57:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA01572; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 22:48:07 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 15 Apr 1999 22:46:15 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA01336; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 22:46:14 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19990416054006.007a8100@pop.online.de> X-Sender: 1025-56@pop.online.de X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 05:40:06 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Reinhard Jaehnig Subject: [PDF] Index handling with pdfmarks Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> The following marker attaches an index when opening a PDF-file: [ {Catalog} << /Search << /Indexes [ << /Name /PDX /Index (name.pdx) >> ] >> >> /PUT pdfmark What I want to do but can't work out from the descriptions on pdfmarks (by Merz and Adobe): -- Attach an index when opening a page (using /AA) and/or -- Detach an index when leaving a page / closing a file Background: We've created a CD that includes documentation for several products (mainframe software) and one navigational file. Currently, there is one index on the CD that includes all products. This index is automatically attached when opening the navigational file. To search the index for information on Product_A only, the user has to specify the keyword "A" in the search windows. This might be a bit complicated for users that are not familiar with PC software in general and Acrobat software in particular. Is there any way to make this easier for our users, so that a search started on the navigational page for product_A only searches for information on product_A. Any suggestions? How do others do this? All the CD's with PDF online documentation I've seen don't even bother to include a search index. TIA, Reinhard _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 16-Apr-1999 4:21:29-GMT,3414;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id WAA21777 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 22:21:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA03408; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 23:16:49 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 15 Apr 1999 23:15:38 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA03324; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 23:15:37 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Wraight, David D." To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Index handling with pdfmarks Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 12:14:29 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Reinhard, You can't unload/load PDX's as you navigate through a PDF (well not in Exchange/Reader), but if you restructure your documents then you wont need to. If you created a PDF for each product and create an Index file (PDX) for each product essentially you would be able to do what you wanted. Each time the Product_A.pdf is loaded Product_A.pdx is also loaded. One method I use to make life easier for the user is to include a BUTTON on the Navigation file that activates the Search Window - this is obviously duplicating buttons, but like you say when you are dealing with the lowest common denominator you have to pitch your end product to that level. one potential downside is that PDX files once loaded remain in the Acrobat Index List so if the customer goes from A then opens B then C, the Indexes for each of these files will still be available - Unless you quit the Reader before progressing to the next PDF :-) ... Hope this helps?? Dave ............ ------------------------------------- > We've created a CD that includes documentation for several > products (mainframe software) and one navigational file. > Currently, there is one index on the CD that includes all > products. This index is automatically attached when opening > the navigational file. To search the index for information > on Product_A only, the user has to specify the keyword "A" > in the search windows. > > This might be a bit complicated for users that are not familiar > with PC software in general and Acrobat software in particular. > Is there any way to make this easier for our users, so that > a search started on the navigational page for product_A only > searches for information on product_A. Any suggestions? > > How do others do this? All the CD's with PDF online documentation > I've seen don't even bother to include a search index. TIA, > > Reinhard > _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 16-Apr-1999 8:46:57-GMT,2419;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id CAA27307 for ; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 02:46:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA17666; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 03:39:45 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 16 Apr 1999 03:37:19 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA17522; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 03:37:17 -0500 Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 14:15:37 +0530 (GMT) From: Murali Krishnan X-Sender: ujaymu01@obelix To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Error while converting postscript to PDF In-Reply-To: <002c01be799a$c919fa80$417d11cb@es.aapl.com.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Hello, We have a postscript file about 1250 pages. While i tried to convert the postscript file to PDF, it reads all the pages and finally the following errors are listed. So, i am not able to get the PDF file. Error ~~~~~ Ryumin-Light.Roman not found, using Courier. Ryumin-Light-EUC-H not found, using Courier. Ryumin-Light.Katakana not found, using Courier. GothicBBB-Medium.Roman not found, using Courier. GothicBBB-Medium-EUC-H not found, using Courier. GothicBBB-Medium.Katakana not found, using Courier. %%[ Error: undefined; OffendingCommand: C ]%% %%[ Flushing: rest of job (to end-of-file) will be ignored ]%% %%[ Warning: PostScript error. No PDF file produced. ] %% I am not able to ascertain where the error acctually would be and what this error actually is. Any suggestions regarding this would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Murali _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 16-Apr-1999 8:48:28-GMT,2506;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id CAA27357 for ; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 02:48:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA18087; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 03:45:08 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 16 Apr 1999 03:44:03 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA17964; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 03:44:01 -0500 Message-ID: <19990416084556.8293.rocketmail@web601.yahoomail.com> Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 01:45:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Karim Riahi Subject: [PDF] Merge Excel sheet with PDF containing form fields? To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Hi, How can I do the following? What software do I need (I've got Exchange and Excel)? Is it feasible with no programming? I'm working on Windows 95, with Acrobat Exchange 3.01 and Excel 97. In short: I would like to do a fax mailer by merging an Excel spreadsheet and a PDF file which gets printed to a fax printer driver. In extenso: I would like to do the following: - take an Excel binder that contains at least 3 different types of info: name, position, fax number - merge this database with a PDF file in which I have previously created 3 fields named after the names I'm using in the Excel spreadsheet - print the resulting merge (without actually CREATING anything) to a network fax software where each faxed sheet contains the entries of my database. Thanks for helping me. Karim. === Only those who are fool enough to think they can change the world DO change it. Think Different. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 16-Apr-1999 9:31:15-GMT,2568;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id DAA28189 for ; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 03:31:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA20742; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 04:27:08 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 16 Apr 1999 04:25:50 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA20596; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 04:25:49 -0500 Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 11:23:59 +0200 From: "Dembner, Steve (FODA)" Subject: [PDF] Bookmarks as weblinks (Adobe as helper vs plug-in) To: "'pdf-list'" Message-id: <01JA3L0XCHTG8Y5FVF@faov02.fao.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> I would like a confirmation or clarification on the following. When creating bookmarks to allow users to navigate among pdf pages on a website, if the user has their browser set to use Acrobat reader as a "plug-in" it appears to be indifferent whether the bookmark property is set to "open file" or "world wide web link" - as the first pdf file selected opens within the browser and therefore "finds" other pages in the same directory on the server. If, however, the user has their browser set to use Acrobat as a "helper", since the first file opened is downloaded to a temporary directory on the user's hard drive, subsequent files are not found. Making this scenario work clearly requires two things: 1) setting the bookmark property as "world wide web link" and setting the link as a relative link and 2) inserting a base url in the general preferences for the file. It appears to me that simply setting a base url is not enough - that is a base url will not allow bookmarks to work that are configured as "open file". Is this correct? Thanks _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 16-Apr-1999 9:39:32-GMT,2994;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id DAA28330 for ; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 03:39:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA21256; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 04:35:56 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 16 Apr 1999 04:34:49 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA21180; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 04:34:48 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Index handling with pdfmarks Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 10:34:07 +0100 Message-ID: <007e01be87ec$467d4900$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.19990416054006.007a8100@pop.online.de> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> > The following marker attaches an index when opening a PDF-file: > > [ {Catalog} << /Search << /Indexes > [ << /Name /PDX /Index (name.pdx) >> ] > >> >> > /PUT pdfmark > > What I want to do but can't work out from the descriptions > on pdfmarks ( > -- Attach an index when opening a page (using /AA) You can't do this. Some background. An attached index is not any sort of action. You are creating an entry in the document info dictionary of the PDF file (the same place where creator, date etc. are stored). When the AutoIndex plug-in is installed, it is automatically woken up each time a file is opened. It looks for a Search entry in the info dictionary, and if it finds one, will automatically attach an index. That is the only thing it does. Hence, there are no actions which attach an index, and no way to do it when opening a page. > > -- Detach an index when leaving a page / closing a file Similarly, no hooks exist to do that. Arguably autoindex could do this, but it would rarely be what was wanted (often, opening the frontpage file for a CDROM is used to trigger an index for use throughout the CDROM). With a custom plug-in, you could add and remove indexes, and provide a customized search dialog (but not control the search hit list). Aandi _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 16-Apr-1999 9:44:16-GMT,2572;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id DAA28419 for ; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 03:44:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA21584; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 04:40:52 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 16 Apr 1999 04:39:10 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA21510; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 04:39:10 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Bookmarks as weblinks (Adobe as helper vs plug-in) Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 10:38:28 +0100 Message-ID: <007f01be87ec$e29e2840$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 In-Reply-To: <01JA3L0XCHTG8Y5FVF@faov02.fao.org> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> > > It appears to me that simply setting a base url is not enough > - that is a > base url will not allow bookmarks to work that are configured as "open > file". That's right. Acrobat automatically processes some kinds of link (open file, go to view) using a "file system" based on the origin of the file. When viewing IN a browser, Acrobat is fully aware that the file came from a URL, and will process links according to that. When viewing in ACROBAT, you are ALWAYS viewing a local file on the hard disk. The browser downloads it and tells Acrobat to view it. Acrobat is not even told that the file is from the internet. So, in the latter case, links are processed according to the source of the file - that is, your disk. By the way, GO TO VIEW is usually considered preferable to OPEN FILE for links between PDF files. Aandi _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 16-Apr-1999 13:09:36-GMT,1833;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id HAA02250 for ; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 07:09:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA00896; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 08:04:54 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 16 Apr 1999 08:02:39 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA00764; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 08:02:38 -0500 From: Sboard0599@aol.com Message-ID: <2831bfa9.24488eb8@aol.com> Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 09:01:44 EDT Subject: Re: [PDF] Error while converting postscript to PDF To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 54 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> The error is being caused by japanese fonts. At least those are the fonts that are missing. IT sounds like you are trying to distill a japanese psfile on a non japanese system. As far as what the C error is, I am not sure, but by solving the font problem you will be that much closer to figuring out the C. or it might go away completely. _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 16-Apr-1999 15:43:17-GMT,3053;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id JAA06082 for ; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 09:43:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA14162; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 10:36:44 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 16 Apr 1999 10:32:17 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA13574; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 10:32:08 -0500 X-Sender: travel-media@bc1.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 08:34:08 -0800 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: weller@axion.net (Angus Weller) Subject: Re: [PDF] AutoCad v.14 to .EPS to .PDF scaling issue Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Randall Larson-Maynard, wrote >I am trying to distill an EPS file, generated from AutoCad v14, into a PDF >file. > Scaling is the issue. If I use the above settings for the EPS file, the image >ends up about 1/3 of the final page size (8.5 x 11, landscape) in PDF. If I use >manual scaling, I can come close to getting the scale correct, Although I don't use AutoCad I have found some programs default the files to some smaller size. In the old days, Adobe Illustrator was an 18"x18" drawing board and you had to scale everything back to the required finished size. Maybe there is a vestiage of this code still embedded in the AutoCad code. and >but then the >image is cut off on the right side by about 1.5 inches. The second problem occurs in Illustrator to Pdf if you don't have your "page set up" properly configured. You need the setting to be 'single page' with its bottom left hand corner in the drawing board 0,0 point which is also the bottom left hand corner of the drawing board, no matter how large the drawing board is. Just as a note, last fall I worked with a company that used MicroStation, they moved everything into Illustrator before moving on to using the files in other Adobe products. I realize this is a work-around but it might be worth the extra effort. Angus ************************************* Angus Weller 6268 129th St., Surrey, British Columbia, Canada, V3X 1S6 Tel: (604) 591-5192 e-mail: weller@axion.net or travel-media@bc1.com Internet store: www.travel-media.com ************************************* _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 16-Apr-1999 16:54:14-GMT,3297;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id KAA08378 for ; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 10:54:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA20830; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 11:48:31 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 16 Apr 1999 11:44:23 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA20458; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 11:44:22 -0500 X-Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated X-Division: Core Technologies X-Department: Product Interoperability Analysis X-URL: Message-Id: <4.1.19990416094004.009d1ce0@mail-303> X-Sender: isaacs@mail-303 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 09:43:25 -0700 To: Murali Krishnan From: Dov Isaacs Subject: Re: [PDF] Error while converting postscript to PDF Cc: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com In-Reply-To: References: <002c01be799a$c919fa80$417d11cb@es.aapl.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> First guess would be that you created a PostScript file for a printer that has built-in Kanji fonts, specifically Ryumin-Light and GothicBBB-Medium. In attempting to distill such a file, those fonts were not available. If you are going to attempt to create PDF for Japanese documents, you need to have the fonts in the PostScript by generating the PostScript based on a driver instance for the Distiller specifically and/or have those fonts directly accessible to a "J" version of the Distiller. - Dov At 4/16/99 01:45 AM , Murali Krishnan wrote: >Hello, > >We have a postscript file about 1250 pages. While i tried to convert the >postscript file to PDF, it reads all the pages and finally the following >errors are listed. So, i am not able to get the PDF file. > >Error >~~~~~ >Ryumin-Light.Roman not found, using Courier. >Ryumin-Light-EUC-H not found, using Courier. >Ryumin-Light.Katakana not found, using Courier. >GothicBBB-Medium.Roman not found, using Courier. >GothicBBB-Medium-EUC-H not found, using Courier. >GothicBBB-Medium.Katakana not found, using Courier. >%%[ Error: undefined; OffendingCommand: C ]%% >%%[ Flushing: rest of job (to end-of-file) will be ignored ]%% >%%[ Warning: PostScript error. No PDF file produced. ] %% > > >I am not able to ascertain where the error acctually would be and what >this error actually is. > >Any suggestions regarding this would be greatly appreciated. > >Thanks, >Murali _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 16-Apr-1999 17:17:17-GMT,2226;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id LAA09012 for ; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 11:17:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA22984; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 12:14:21 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 16 Apr 1999 12:12:51 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA22844; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 12:12:49 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: kfoss@mailbag.com Message-Id: Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 12:11:41 -0500 To: PDF@lists.pdfzone.com From: Kurt Foss Subject: [PDF] NEW=> "PDF & the Real World of Printing" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> We've just posted to PDFzone.COM a contributed article titled "PDF & the Real World of Printing," written by Jason Belec of Media Madness Productions. Assembling a team of industry veterans to provide a balanced, fair assessment, Belec and the group set out to test the theory that a total PDF environment -- to & from the client, to the printer, and to the Web And CD-ROM-- is viable for the high-end printing and prepress market. Belec recounts the test's goals, process and conclusions; the seven PDF files also can be downloaded. Now on line at: http://www.pdfzone.com/pdf4print1.html If you have another 'PDF Success Story' to share with the PDFzone.COM Community, please feel free to let us know at: . rgds ~ Kurt _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 16-Apr-1999 19:04:45-GMT,2756;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id NAA11954 for ; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 13:04:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA31191; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 13:58:00 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 16 Apr 1999 13:55:57 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA30946; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 13:55:56 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990416145725.008bfc90@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 14:57:25 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: RE: [PDF] Index handling with pdfmarks In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> >one potential downside is that PDX files once loaded remain in the Acrobat >Index List so if the customer goes from A then opens B then C, the Indexes >for each of these files will still be available - Unless you quit the Reader >before progressing to the next PDF :-) ... > I saw that one coming. But it leads to another notion .. what about a front-end "menu" sort of app? Rather than starting the whole works with a front-end PDF file, start it with an app that lets users choose a subject. They make their choice, the app launches the appropriate PDF (which, of course, has its own index attached). You'd still have the problem of Reader/Exchange remaining running and accumulating open indexes, but I think you might be able to get round that one by: a) Hiding the normal Reader/Exchange screen furniture b) Providing any necessary navigation buttons yourself in each PDF and c) including a Quit button among them. Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 17-Apr-1999 1:38:26-GMT,3200;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id TAA21890 for ; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 19:38:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA26677; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 20:29:41 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 16 Apr 1999 20:27:05 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA26512; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 20:27:03 -0500 Message-ID: <6031CF804B89D111B9F00020AFD0D9A607F8B2@mail.paravision.com> From: Vincent Huang To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] Search Problem Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 18:27:53 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Been on the road for a few days, this was posted some time back, hope it helps. ================= The problem of inconsistency (displacement) between searched word and displayed word came from the algorithm used in the Indexing of the search engine. When you search the word, it goes to X-th word in the page from the beginning. However, in PDF the display of word has a different algorithm. It's like the right hand does not know what the left hand is doing. The result is what we all experience. This is clearly an Acrobat bug....fingers crossed that it will be fixed soon. The problem is random but the bug is predictable. A quick way to ping down where the trouble maker: 1. After you indexed your PDFs, search using simple words such as "the" as a locator. 2. You will see exactly where your "the" gets displaced. 3. Between the last correct "the" and the first misplaced "the", certain word is the cause of the trouble maker. 4. Copy the paragraph to your MS Word, 5. You can find out the problem making "word" is split up with space in between. E.g. "35" become "3 5". 6. Go back to your PDF document and use Acrbat Exchange to get rid of the space in-between, 7. Save your PDF, re-index it. 8. That ought do it. 9. It's not worth the trouble if your searched word is displaced by over 3 or 4 locations. That means you got to repeat the steps above many times in many locations in your PDF. Vincent Huang Developer of PageGenie 2000: Advanced PDF Capturing and Full Color OCR for Document Professionals http://www.pagegenie.com > ---------- > From: Dan Murren[SMTP:dmurren@pit-magnus.com] > > You mentioned that it can be fixed using Exchange, can you let me > know > how? > _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 17-Apr-1999 8:27:36-GMT,2417;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id CAA29882 for ; Sat, 17 Apr 1999 02:27:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA16723; Sat, 17 Apr 1999 03:22:19 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 17 Apr 1999 03:17:55 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA16472; Sat, 17 Apr 1999 03:17:53 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Creating CD-ROM on PC to install Acrobat Reader on Mac Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 09:17:08 +0100 Message-ID: <008a01be88aa$aff46580$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 In-Reply-To: <353575F5.71FEB215@realworld.com.au> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> > Sorry Aandi I don't really understand: > Your words: "Would I be correct in assuming, though, that this part of the > CDROM image was copied using a Mac?" Let me try and explain what I meant. If you want to include the Macintosh installer, it is extremely difficult to do so UNLESS you are writing the CDROM from a Mac. It is this point that is often missed, or which people who don't have a Mac find so hard to believe. Macs somehow manage to write the installer so it can be read OK, on a variety of formats even - I realise now - nominally Windows formats. The format that I think is most often used, and which gives the most flexibility, could well be HYBRID. Aandi _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 17-Apr-1999 16:13:57-GMT,2932;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id KAA08168 for ; Sat, 17 Apr 1999 10:13:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA09216; Sat, 17 Apr 1999 11:04:57 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 17 Apr 1999 10:58:50 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA08826; Sat, 17 Apr 1999 10:58:49 -0500 Message-ID: <3718AF19.26EB327E@earthlink.net> Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 10:56:09 -0500 From: Michael J McGonagle X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Corel 8 and Distiller Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Hello All, I have been working a project to get drawings and charts from Corel Draw 8 (on the PC) and get them into a PDF, and I have noticed something really odd. I printed all of my files from Corel using the Acrobat Distiller PPD (no other method of exporting gave results anywhere near what it was supposed to be), and then I Distilled the files on the PC. I then opened them in Illustrator 8 on the Mac to make sure that all of the elements and colors were correct. I noticed that the Gradients that were in the PDF file were going in a direction that was 90 degrees in the wrong direction. I thought this rather weird, so I figured what the hey, I will try to Distill on the Mac now... Well, to my surprise, using exactly the same PostScript that was Distilled on the PC, I now converted them on the Mac. Now my gradients were going in the right direction. Now I know that Corel (and other PC programs) have had problems with their PostScript files. Sometimes they will not rotate properly, or some other odd thing like that, but has anyone seen something like this? Is the problem here Corel's PostScript or is there a difference between the PC and Mac versions of Distiller? My gut feeling is that there is something wrong with Distiller's versions accross platforms, but I have seen other oddities with PC generated PostScript files? (Is there some way to blame Microsoft??? ;-|) Thanks, Mike _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 17-Apr-1999 21:13:13-GMT,3702;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id PAA13910 for ; Sat, 17 Apr 1999 15:13:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA27525; Sat, 17 Apr 1999 16:06:31 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 17 Apr 1999 16:01:17 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA27163; Sat, 17 Apr 1999 16:01:09 -0500 Message-Id: <4.1.19990417135512.00b04630@mail-321.corp.adobe.com> X-Sender: srosenba@mail-321.corp.adobe.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 13:58:46 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Sarah Rosenbaum Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF doesn't display some fonts In-Reply-To: <371642EE.9FEF8B76@sr.hp.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> One thing to look for when dealing with files that contain TrueType fonts but were created by going to PostScript and then through Distiller is the font name in the PDF file (you can see it at File->Document Info->Fonts). Many drivers on Windows rename the TT fonts to informative things like "MS001" and "MS050", etc. Of course, you probably don't have a font on your system with that name, perhaps its original name was "Arial", etc. If your PDF files have fonts with the cryptic names, then that's why TouchUp can't find it on your system. If that's not the case, then please send more details (the exact font names on your system and what shows up in the PDF are a great start). Regards, Sarah Rosenbaum - Adobe Systems At 12:50 PM 4/15/99 -0700, you wrote: > ><- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> ><- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> > >I'm getting this same message, but on an NT/SP3 >system...using basic-35 PostScript fonts exclusively! I'm >subsetting below 50% (which tends to exclude extended >characters only), and am touching up on the very same >machine I used to create the PDF. The font locations list >points specifically to the psfonts folder (and to all other >folders on the system that contain fonts, TrueType OR >PostScript). I AM, however, using ATM Deluxe, with the >PostScript fonts in an activated set. > >Opinions? Suggestions? Commiseration? > > >Tom Livingston said: >> I too have problems (on a PC, Win 95) using the text >> touch-up tool on True Type text in a PDF file created via >> the distiller. The warning I get is that "a subset of this >> font is embedded in the document but is not installed on >> your system. You cannot edit text in this font." > >_____________________________________________________________ > > * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * > Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM > < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > > _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 19-Apr-1999 9:57:36-GMT,1829;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id DAA25029 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 03:57:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA26453; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 04:43:51 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 19 Apr 1999 04:37:37 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA26006; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 04:37:34 -0500 From: "Martin Kjellqvist" To: Subject: [PDF] Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 11:35:00 +0200 Message-ID: <000001be8a47$e557cc00$e4c512c2@PC312.tim.se> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at <http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html> -> Hi all. Is there anyone who knows how to put a title in a pdf document so it shows in netscape and IE ? A substitute for HTML's <title> hmm.. ?? Thanks.. /Martin http://start.at/martin _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 19-Apr-1999 14:43:42-GMT,1593;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id IAA01159 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 08:43:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA14050; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 09:37:33 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 19 Apr 1999 09:34:01 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA13727; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 09:33:59 -0500 X-Sender: h.goldsmith@138.250.12.2 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 15:33:55 +0000 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Hayley Goldsmith Subject: [PDF] Mac 8.5?? Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Hello Does anyone know of any problems with Exchange 3.01 and Mac OS 8.5?? If so, are there any solutions? Cheers Hayley _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 19-Apr-1999 15:26:54-GMT,2020;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id JAA02527 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 09:26:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA18259; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 10:22:32 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 19 Apr 1999 10:21:25 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA18059; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 10:21:25 -0500 Message-Id: <199904191521.KAA18051@everglades.binc.net> Date: 19 Apr 99 11:20:50 -0400 From: Justin Blocksom Subject: RE: [PDF] Mac 8.5?? To: pdf X-Mailer: QuickMail Pro 1.5.2 (Mac) X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-Ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id KAA18055 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Reply to: RE: [PDF] Mac 8.5?? >Does anyone know of any problems with Exchange 3.01 and Mac OS 8.5?? >If so, are there any solutions? > >Cheers > >Hayley Yes - there is a major problem with Acrobat 3 and 8.5. See : http://www.adobe.com/supportservice/custsupport/SOLUTIONS/14a7e.htm for more information. Justin Blocksom Digital Production Group Printing & Publications Corp. jblocksom@printandpub.com _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 19-Apr-1999 15:26:53-GMT,2011;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id JAA02526 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 09:26:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA18250; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 10:22:24 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 19 Apr 1999 10:20:53 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA17968; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 10:20:51 -0500 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Mac 8.5?? In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 19 Apr 1999 15:33:55 -0000." Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 16:20:38 +0100 Message-ID: <26814.924535238@MessagingDirect.com> From: Chris Ridd Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> On Mon, 19 Apr 1999 15:33:55 -0000, Hayley Goldsmith wrote: > > <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> > <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> > > Hello > > Does anyone know of any problems with Exchange 3.01 and Mac OS 8.5?? > If so, are there any solutions? Yes, they're documented at the Adobe site. http://www.adobe.com/supportservice/custsupport/SOLUTIONS/14a7e.htm I think Apple's got a tech note about this too. Cheers, Chris _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 19-Apr-1999 15:41:51-GMT,1758;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id JAA03054 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 09:41:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA19808; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 10:37:59 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 19 Apr 1999 10:36:18 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA19545; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 10:36:16 -0500 Message-id: Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 07:41:28 +0100 Subject: Re: [PDF] Mac 8.5?? To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Cc: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: werner@rapidgraphics.com (Steve Werner) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> pdf@lists.pdfzone.com writes: >Does anyone know of any problems with Exchange 3.01 and Mac OS 8.5?? >If so, are there any solutions? > >Cheers > >Hayley Hayley, There is a conflict between three of the plug-ins in the Exchange 3.01 install and Mac OS 8.5. Remove ScanPI, ImportPI and OCR plug-ins. This is fixed in Acrobat 4.0. Best, ^Steve^ _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 20-Apr-1999 1:38:26-GMT,4085;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id TAA19281 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 19:38:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA01471; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 20:33:12 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 19 Apr 1999 20:30:35 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA01231; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 20:30:34 -0500 Message-ID: <001201be8acd$8191d720$cb19fed0@sue> From: "Susan Gililland" To: "PDF List" Subject: [PDF] Powerpoint movie /PDF question Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 18:31:15 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000F_01BE8A92.CED0C7C0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000F_01BE8A92.CED0C7C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I know that someone on this list can tell me what stupid thing I'm = doing! I've created a PPT presentation with timed transitions. I set PPT to = view slide show and using MSOffice Camcorder I record the presentation. = Now I want to put that movie (.avi) into my PDF file, which I do without = any problem - except that the movie records the slide show in full = screen mode (17"). In the PDF I want the movie to take up just a small = space (about 4"x4"). I don't see how I make that adjustment in the PDF = - must be when the movie is created. If you've used Camcorder for this = purpose and can give me some clues I'd sure appreciate it! I thought it = would be pretty easy and I'd really like to finish this presentation. SueG=20 ------=_NextPart_000_000F_01BE8A92.CED0C7C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I know that someone on this list can = tell me=20 what stupid thing I'm doing!
 
I've created a PPT presentation with = timed=20 transitions.  I set PPT to view slide show and using MSOffice = Camcorder I=20 record the presentation.  Now I want to put that movie (.avi) into = my PDF=20 file, which I do without any problem - except that the movie records the = slide=20 show in full screen mode (17").  In the PDF I want the movie = to take=20 up just a small space (about 4"x4").  I don't see how I = make that=20 adjustment in the PDF - must be when the movie is created.  If = you've used=20 Camcorder for this purpose and can give me some clues I'd sure = appreciate=20 it!  I thought it would be pretty easy and I'd really like to = finish this=20 presentation.
 
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------=_NextPart_000_000F_01BE8A92.CED0C7C0-- _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 20-Apr-1999 12:24:15-GMT,3029;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id GAA02322 for ; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 06:24:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA07446; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 07:17:14 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 20 Apr 1999 07:10:54 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA06964; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 07:10:52 -0500 Message-ID: <01BE8B04.E4C490D0.David_Tamburello@mazer.com> From: Dave Tamburello To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Powerpoint movie /PDF question Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 08:07:53 -0400 Organization: Mazer Corporation X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Sue, You can control movie display size by using the movie tool to drag a bounding box out on the page with the movie tool . The risk is that you will get the dimensions wrong and skew the movie, so prepare before you do so. One other option is to display the movie as a floating window. When I tried this, 4.0 gave me the option to display my QuickTime sample movie anywhere from 1/4 actual size to full screen. David M.Tamburello Training Specialist Mazer e-Publishing Grand Rapids, MI 49546 (616)285-3900 ext. 232 (616)285-3950 FAX Ask me about Acrobat 4.0 training! -----Original Message----- From: Susan Gililland [SMTP:susan.gililland@gte.net] Sent: Monday, April 19, 1999 9:31 PM To: PDF List Subject: [PDF] Powerpoint movie /PDF question I know that someone on this list can tell me what stupid thing I'm doing! I've created a PPT presentation with timed transitions. I set PPT to view slide show and using MSOffice Camcorder I record the presentation. Now I want to put that movie (.avi) into my PDF file, which I do without any problem - except that the movie records the slide show in full screen mode (17"). In the PDF I want the movie to take up just a small space (about 4"x4"). I don't see how I make that adjustment in the PDF - must be when the movie is created. If you've used Camcorder for this purpose and can give me some clues I'd sure appreciate it! I thought it would be pretty easy and I'd really like to finish this presentation. SueG << File: ATT00001.html >> _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 20-Apr-1999 15:46:31-GMT,2579;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id JAA07123 for ; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 09:46:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA24879; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 10:40:30 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 20 Apr 1999 10:36:46 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA24340; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 10:36:44 -0500 Message-ID: <38CF2360EE0CD211952500A0C9498CE76CE9B5@icex3.cc.ic.ac.uk> From: "Bayley, J." To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Merging variable (line) data into PDF forms Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 16:36:33 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Dear All, My finance system produces reports which are 80 column ASCII output. I want to merge this into a nice pdf file and print it. Header Page: Title Subsequent pages: Column Headings followed by 80 column output and page number at bottom. I am using command line printing eg c:\acrobat3\reader\acrord32.exe /t "c:\test\testform.pdf" "\\Adfindev2\HP LaserJet 4" "RASDD.DLL" "LPT1:" I have read all the FDF toolkit stuff but do not really have a clear understanding of what I should be doing. I assume that I should generate a PDF file which has the header page and a template for subsequent pages but I cannot work out how to create a FDF datafile which I can then munge (I actually use ColdFusion as middleware) to get the data in. Any pointers, sample code, books, fully working commercial packages, etc would be greatfully appreciated. Thanks James Bayley (tel. 0171 59 48691) Web Development Coordinator rm 517a Sherfield Building Imperial College, Exhibition Road, London, SW7 2AZ (Map http://www.publications.ad.ic.ac.uk/maps/sk.stm) _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 20-Apr-1999 16:17:41-GMT,2011;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id KAA07921 for ; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 10:17:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA28423; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 11:10:52 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 20 Apr 1999 11:09:41 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA28284; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 11:09:40 -0500 Message-Id: <199904201609.LAA28278@everglades.binc.net> Subject: [PDF] Postscript XObjects Date: Tue, 20 Apr 99 12:08:14 -0400 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: lvincent To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Hi, I need to make up a PDF test file with a working example of a PostScript XObject included. Having trouble getting it to work. It doesn't matter what the PostScript XObject actually is, I just need to include one in a PDF that works. Does anyone have a PDF with one that they could send me so I can take a look at or could someone please post the syntax to the list. I would really appreciate it. ( I do not need form or image XObjects) Thanks, Have a nice day, Linda Vincent Digital Applications, Inc. lvincent@digapp.com http://www.digapp.com _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 20-Apr-1999 16:18:53-GMT,2229;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id KAA07965 for ; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 10:18:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA28442; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 11:11:05 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 20 Apr 1999 11:10:00 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA28315; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 11:09:59 -0500 Message-Id: <4.1.19990420110339.00a1b860@hebco.com> X-Sender: aldridge@hebco.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 11:08:43 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Jeannie Aldridge Subject: [PDF] Saving a PDF file In-Reply-To: <199904201536.KAA24359@everglades.binc.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> We have a problem while using Exchange 3.01. Sometimes when we try to save, the following error message appears, "The document could not be saved. There was a problem reading the document (110)." We have lost hours of work due to this error. We have to close the file, losing any work since the last save. When we open the file and redo the work, we are then able to save the file. Any help in finding what is causing this would be appreciated. Thanks in advance. Jeannie Aldridge HazMat Production Manager HEBCO, Inc. 1601 S.E. 66th Street Oklahoma City, OK 73149 email: aldridge@hebco.com fax: (405)672-3184 phone: (405)672-1461 ext. 226 web: www.hebco.com _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 20-Apr-1999 17:38:26-GMT,1718;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id LAA10450 for ; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 11:38:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA03483; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 12:29:51 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 20 Apr 1999 12:27:21 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA03242; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 12:27:19 -0500 Message-Id: <99Apr20.112229mdt.19741@stpeter.afotec.af.mil> From: "Diamond, Steven Mr HQ/HOH" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 11:28:56 -0600 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Greetings. I'm trying to insert a quicktime *.mov in a PDF, and I keep getting the following error message: "Cannot initialize Quicktime. Check your Quicktime installation." I'm using Acrobat Exchange 3.0; Quicktime 3.0.2; on a Dell Pentium P400. Any suggestions? Steven Diamond _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 20-Apr-1999 18:15:58-GMT,4250;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id MAA11588 for ; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 12:15:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA07190; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 13:08:17 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 20 Apr 1999 13:06:52 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA06981; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 13:06:51 -0500 X-Sender: prodok@pop.eunet.ch Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990420110339.00a1b860@hebco.com> References: <199904201536.KAA24359@everglades.binc.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 20:02:49 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Max Wyss Subject: Re: [PDF] Saving a PDF file Cc: Jeannie Aldridge Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Jeannie, I sometimes encountered this error as well. From what I found, there are several possible causes. One is that Exchange may have run out of internal resources, such as space for embedded and subsetted fonts (this can happen when you open lots of files, or when you copy pages from one document to another). Another one is that the document actually got corrupted. A third one is that something may have gone wrong during the optimization process (this is most likely to happen when you are a bit short on resources on your machine, such as disk space on the system partition). In order to find out about that, check the bar at the lower left corner of the Exchange window. It first does one run-through, and then does some more runs. When the problem occurs after the first complete run-through, the file has been saved sucessfully, but not optimized. In the first case, quitting Exchange and restarting may help. This does of course not yet solve the file related problem. Here, it is best if you can get back to the source documents and put toghether the final document before you even distill it. If this is not an issue, you would have to fully embed the fonts (set subsetting below 1% in Distiller, and also make sure in the printer driver settings that your PostScript output already has the full fonts embedded). When you then copy pages from one document to the other, you will not get multiple copies of essentially the same font. This does make your PDF document more stable. In the third case, you might have to adapt your procedures. Try to first save the document. Then close it and open it again. Then do the Save as... with optimizing on. Close it and open it again. This may help as well. In the second case, you may have to recreate the file from the source documents, keeping in mind the other comments of this message. Hope, this can help. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch WWW: http://www.prodok.ch/prodok [ Bridging the Knowledge Gap ] ______________________ >We have a problem while using Exchange 3.01. Sometimes when we try to save, >the following error message appears, "The document could not be saved. >There was a problem reading the document (110)." >We have lost hours of work due to this error. We have to close the file, >losing any work since the last save. When we open the file and redo the >work, we are then able to save the file. Any help in finding what is >causing this would be appreciated. Thanks in advance. > > >Jeannie Aldridge _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 20-Apr-1999 19:11:44-GMT,3515;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id NAA13098 for ; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 13:11:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA12485; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 14:07:24 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 20 Apr 1999 14:04:10 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA12094; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 14:04:09 -0500 Message-ID: <91B0C432E1D8D111917000805F7DEB3508CD52@HQMAIN> From: Sheila Mahoney To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] Merging variable (line) data into PDF forms Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 15:08:10 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Dear James: There are products that convert ASCII directly to PDF and that use the document logic to automate bookmarks. Try looking up the TableMaster product at www.imagesolutions.com Sheila Mahoney Image Solutions, Inc. sheilam@imagesolutions.com > -----Original Message----- > From: Bayley, J. [SMTP:j.bayley@ic.ac.uk] > Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 1999 11:37 AM > To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' > Subject: [PDF] Merging variable (line) data into PDF forms > > > <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> > <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> > > Dear All, > My finance system produces reports which are 80 column ASCII output. I > want > to merge this into a nice pdf file and print it. > > Header Page: Title > Subsequent pages: Column Headings followed by 80 column output and > page > number at bottom. > > I am using command line printing eg > > c:\acrobat3\reader\acrord32.exe /t "c:\test\testform.pdf" > "\\Adfindev2\HP > LaserJet 4" "RASDD.DLL" "LPT1:" > > I have read all the FDF toolkit stuff but do not really have a clear > understanding of what I should be doing. I assume that I should > generate a > PDF file which has the header page and a template for subsequent pages > but I > cannot work out how to create a FDF datafile which I can then munge (I > actually use ColdFusion as middleware) to get the data in. > > Any pointers, sample code, books, fully working commercial packages, > etc > would be greatfully appreciated. > Thanks > > > > James Bayley (tel. 0171 59 48691) > Web Development Coordinator > rm 517a Sherfield Building > Imperial College, Exhibition Road, London, SW7 2AZ > (Map http://www.publications.ad.ic.ac.uk/maps/sk.stm) > > > > > _____________________________________________________________ > > * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * > Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM > < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 20-Apr-1999 20:17:20-GMT,2864;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id OAA14831 for ; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 14:17:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA18313; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 15:11:50 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 20 Apr 1999 15:10:00 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA18167; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 15:09:59 -0500 From: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?Carlos_Gonz=E1lez?=" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Saving a PDF file Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 22:10:01 +0200 Message-ID: <01be8b69$c5a67500$1463513e@none.servicom.es> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> I completely agree with Max's considerations: We've had that error too. Since then, we use just 'Save' instead of 'Save as' while we work on a document. Only when we finish it an after saving it we proceed with 'Save as' and optimize. Another thing we did once we had several hours of work in a doc. that wouldn't save is : We opened up one doc that had at least, one page. It can be a dumb page or a white one, it does not matter. You can create one in seconds with PDF Writer. Then, we moved all the pages of the doc. we were working on, into that new doc. (Dragging Thumbnails) Then, we saved the new doc. It's just a 'First Aid' trick but it has saved our work a couple of times. Exchange may not let you save but it will let you export and/or drag thumbnails.. After you'll have to redo the new doc. by erasing the dumb page. Hope this helps! Saludos desde Madrid. Carlos. ************************************************************** La Oficina Sin Papel S.L. Carlos Gonzalez Marti Director General Cristóbal Bordiú, 63 28003 Madrid (Spain) Tel: + 34 915 344 348 Fax: + 34 915 531 508 e-mail: laoficinasinpapel@mad.servicom.es ************************************************************** _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 20-Apr-1999 20:41:58-GMT,2926;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id OAA15460 for ; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 14:41:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA20724; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 15:37:43 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 20 Apr 1999 15:36:29 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA20570; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 15:36:28 -0500 X-Sent: 20 Apr 1999 20:36:12 GMT Message-ID: <003f01be8b6d$b017d2c0$04fea8c0@nt40> From: "Mark Manderson" To: "pdf" Subject: [PDF] test Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 13:37:52 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_003C_01BE8B32.FD02D700" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_003C_01BE8B32.FD02D700 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable test, thank you ------------------------- Mark Manderson X-Streem Software Solutions 2801 W. 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= ------=_NextPart_000_003C_01BE8B32.FD02D700-- _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 20-Apr-1999 20:56:56-GMT,1725;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id OAA15853 for ; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 14:56:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA22049; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 15:51:31 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 20 Apr 1999 15:50:21 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA21956; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 15:50:20 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: listowner (Unverified) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <003f01be8b6d$b017d2c0$04fea8c0@nt40> Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 15:49:16 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: "PDFzone.COM List Administrator" Subject: Re: [PDF] test - NO REPLIES PLS - All's WELL! Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> test, thank you PLEASE do NOT post "test" messages to all 2,000+ list subscribers. If you have concerns about the list, send email directly to: listowner@pdfzone.com _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 21-Apr-1999 9:27:55-GMT,4720;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id DAA02403 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 03:27:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA07647; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 04:21:21 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 21 Apr 1999 04:18:00 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA07423; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 04:17:57 -0500 From: "Martin Kjellqvist" To: Subject: [PDF] problem with special characters in FDF data!! Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 11:16:28 +0200 Message-ID: <000201be8bd7$a37c1480$e4c512c2@PC312.tim.se> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0003_01BE8BE8.6704E480" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0003_01BE8BE8.6704E480 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Big problem.. I am trying to create FDF data from scratch and I have encountered a big problem.. It seems as FDF data contains of some special characters which I can't recreate. There are about ten places where the character needs to be put in (marked with a ? in the text below) Is there anyone who knows if I can substitute the characters with some other ascii sign or another character?? The FDF file looks something like this. {FDF DATA} %FDF-1.2?%âÏÓ 1 0 obj?<< ?/FDF << /Fields [ << /V (mk@tim.se)/T (email)>> << /V (07040909)/T (mobilnr)>> << /V (Martin)/T (namn)>> ?<< /V (040 - 200000)/T (telenr)>> << /V (alt1)/T (val)>> ] ?/F (/C/Temp/Test1.pdf)>> ?>> ?endobj?trailer?<>?%%EOF? Hope someone can give me some advise on this matter. Thanks in advanced. /Martin http://start.at/martin http://www.tim.se ------=_NextPart_000_0003_01BE8BE8.6704E480 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Big problem..

I am trying to create FDF data from scratch and = I have=20 encountered a big problem..
It seems as FDF data contains of some = special=20 characters which I can't recreate.

There are about ten places = where the=20 character needs to be put in (marked with a ? in the = text=20 below)
Is there anyone who knows if I can substitute the characters = with some=20 other ascii sign or another character??

The=20 FDF file looks something like this.

{FDF=20 DATA}

%FDF-1.2?%=E2=E3=CF=D3
1 0=20 obj?<<
?/FDF << /Fields = [=20 << /V (mk@tim.se)/T (email)>> << /V (07040909)/T=20 (mobilnr)>> << /V (Martin)/T=20 (namn)>>
?<< /V (040 - 200000)/T=20 (telenr)>> << /V (alt1)/T (val)>> = ]
?/F=20 (/C/Temp/Test1.pdf)>>
?>>=20 ?endobj?trailer?<&l= t;?/Root=20 1 0=20 R ??>>?%%EO= F?

Hope=20 someone can give me some advise on this matter.

Thanks in advanced.
/Martin

http://start.at/martin
http://www.tim.se

 

------=_NextPart_000_0003_01BE8BE8.6704E480-- _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 21-Apr-1999 9:38:12-GMT,2312;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id DAA02573 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 03:38:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA08539; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 04:35:04 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 21 Apr 1999 04:33:50 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA08432; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 04:33:47 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] problem with special characters in FDF data!! Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 10:33:05 +0100 Message-ID: <000b01be8bd9$f5a13720$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <000201be8bd7$a37c1480$e4c512c2@PC312.tim.se> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> If you check the FDF specification, you will see that these are just newlines, which can take the form of CR, or LF, or a CRLF pair. It is a big mistake to try and create FDF files by just reading some examples, rather than understanding the specification. Aandi -----Original Message----- I am trying to create FDF data from scratch and I have encountered a big problem.. It seems as FDF data contains of some special characters which I can't recreate. There are about ten places where the character needs to be put in %FDF-1.2?%âÏÓ 1 0 obj?<< ?/FDF << /Fields ... _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 21-Apr-1999 9:45:11-GMT,1993;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id DAA02685 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 03:45:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA09083; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 04:42:06 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 21 Apr 1999 04:38:55 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA08779; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 04:38:53 -0500 Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 18:37:14 +0900 (JST) From: TOMITA Shigenari Message-Id: <199904210937.SAA22575@max.icu.ac.jp> To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com CC: ts@icu.ac.jp In-reply-to: <000201be8bd7$a37c1480$e4c512c2@PC312.tim.se> (mk@tim.se) Subject: Re: [PDF] problem with special characters in FDF data!! Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Hello Martin, I don't know why your FDF file contains special chars, maybe improper conversion of CR and/or LF is the reason. Anyway, just ignore them. And you can replace some ?s with the line feed character(or combination) for debugging. -- TOMITA From: "Martin Kjellqvist" Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 11:16:28 +0200 Is there anyone who knows if I can substitute the characters with some other ascii sign or another character?? _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 21-Apr-1999 9:52:22-GMT,2544;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id DAA02807 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 03:52:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA09607; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 04:49:39 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 21 Apr 1999 04:48:26 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA09486; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 04:48:24 -0500 X-Sender: prodok@pop.eunet.ch Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <000201be8bd7$a37c1480$e4c512c2@PC312.tim.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 11:46:15 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Max Wyss Subject: Re: [PDF] problem with special characters in FDF data!! Cc: "Martin Kjellqvist" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Martin, No big problem at all. On which platform are you? Could you imagine that these characters are line ending characters? What happens when you simply dump them? Hope, this can help. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch WWW: http://www.prodok.ch/prodok [ Bridging the Knowledge Gap ] ______________________ >Big problem.. > >I am trying to create FDF data from scratch and I have encountered a big >problem.. >It seems as FDF data contains of some special characters which I can't >recreate. > >There are about ten places where the character needs to be put in (marked >with a ? in the text below) >Is there anyone who knows if I can substitute the characters with some >other ascii sign or another character?? > > >Hope someone can give me some advise on this matter. > >Thanks in advanced. >/Martin _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 21-Apr-1999 10:07:27-GMT,3141;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id EAA03096 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 04:07:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA10634; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 05:03:42 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 21 Apr 1999 05:02:25 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA10540; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 05:02:23 -0500 From: "Martin Kjellqvist" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] problem with special characters in FDF data!! Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 12:00:27 +0200 Message-ID: <000a01be8bdd$c817f880$e4c512c2@PC312.tim.se> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <000b01be8bd9$f5a13720$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Thanks for your reply Aadni. Do you know where I can get some information about newlines? Thanks again /Martin > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com [mailto:owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com]On > Behalf Of Aandi Inston > Sent: den 21 april 1999 11:33 > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: RE: [PDF] problem with special characters in FDF data!! > > > > <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> > <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> > > If you check the FDF specification, you will see that these are just > newlines, > which can take the form of CR, or LF, or a CRLF pair. > > It is a big mistake to try and create FDF files by just reading some > examples, rather than understanding the specification. > > Aandi > > -----Original Message----- > > I am trying to create FDF data from scratch and I have encountered a big > problem.. > It seems as FDF data contains of some special characters which I can't > recreate. > > There are about ten places where the character needs to be put in > > %FDF-1.2?%âÏÓ > 1 0 obj?<< > ?/FDF << /Fields ... > > > > _____________________________________________________________ > > * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * > Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM > < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > > > _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 21-Apr-1999 10:35:17-GMT,1975;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id EAA03654 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 04:35:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA12422; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 05:32:36 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 21 Apr 1999 05:30:37 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA12238; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 05:30:34 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] problem with special characters in FDF data!! Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 11:29:52 +0100 Message-ID: <000d01be8be1$e4d4b400$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <000a01be8bdd$c817f880$e4c512c2@PC312.tim.se> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> > Do you know where I can get some information about newlines? This is covered in the PDF Specification (at the start of the "File Structure" chapter). FDF is described in an appendix, and follows many of the same rules as PDF. Aandi _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 21-Apr-1999 14:18:12-GMT,1764;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id IAA08326 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 08:18:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA29904; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 09:11:01 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 21 Apr 1999 08:58:42 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA28721; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 08:58:39 -0500 Message-ID: <38CF2360EE0CD211952500A0C9498CE76CE9B8@icex3.cc.ic.ac.uk> From: "Bayley, J." To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Is a the FDF toolkit available in PERL? Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 14:57:57 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Is a the FDF toolkit available in PERL? Thanks James Bayley (tel. 0171 59 48691) Web Development Coordinator rm 517a Sherfield Building Imperial College, Exhibition Road, London, SW7 2AZ (Map http://www.publications.ad.ic.ac.uk/maps/sk.stm) _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 21-Apr-1999 14:39:40-GMT,3538;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id IAA08932 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 08:39:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA32369; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 09:35:01 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 21 Apr 1999 09:30:47 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA31902; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 09:30:45 -0500 Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 15:29:22 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: <199904211429.PAA05514@hrwallingford.co.uk> From: Leon Miles Content-Type: text/plain To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Javascript X-Mailer: Pronto E-Mail [ver 4.0.2.5] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Hi, I wonder if anyone can help me out. Basically I want to insert a link into a pdf file viewed in Acrobat Exchange (but nested in Netscape) which when 'clicked' opens up a small netscape window containing either html or another pdf file. This ought to sit on top of the existing window and then be closed down once the user's finished, leaving them in the same position as they were before opening the link. I've successfully used the following line of javascript to do this from within html pages but I can't work out how to do it from a pdf file. window.open("AcrobatFormat/Edited/GLOSSARY.pdf","glossary","scrollbars,resiz able,height=400,width=500"); I've followed the instructions below (taken from adobe's support database) but when I use the code as above I get the error message, "window is not defined" from acrobat exchange's javascript console. If you could see what's wrong with the code or even suggest another way of doing it I'd be grateful. Cheers, Leon. **************** How to Add a JavaScript to a PDF File in Acrobat Exchange 3.0x Document number 320285 You can add a JavaScript to a PDF form field in Adobe Acrobat Exchange 3.01 using the Acrobat Forms Author plug-in 3.5. To add a JavaScript: 1. Copy the JavaScript code from the application in which you've created it. 2. In Acrobat Exchange, open the PDF file to which you want to add the JavaScript. 3. Create a form field using the form tool, then click the Action tab in the Field Properties dialog box that appears. 4. Click Add to add an action. 5. Choose JavaScript from the Type pop-up menu, then click Edit. 6. Paste the JavaScript code you copied in step 1 into the Acrobat Forms dialog box by pressing Control + V. (Unlike with other applications, you can't right-click and choose Paste from the pop-up menu when you're pasting into the Acrobat Forms dialog box.) 7. Check the code to make sure it doesn't have any unexpected line breaks, which can affect its performance. 8. Click OK, click Set Action, then click OK. **************** _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 21-Apr-1999 14:57:02-GMT,2362;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id IAA09333 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 08:57:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA01593; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 09:52:24 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 21 Apr 1999 09:48:27 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA01094; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 09:48:24 -0500 Message-ID: <371DE4F0.137BCB7@aip.org> Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 10:47:12 -0400 From: Chris Hamlin Organization: AIP X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; I; SunOS 5.6 sun4u) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf list Subject: [PDF] Has use of URL base changed in 4.0? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> We've got Acrobat files with a base URL like http://blah.aip.org/cgi-bin/getmesomething? and each web link has something like UID=98234692856031702475 in it. Together they give http://blah.aip.org/cgi-bin/getmesomething?UID=98234692856031702475 and this seemed OK until someone complained about problems in 4.0. I tried 4.0 as a plugin to IE5, and what actually gets called is this URL: http://blah.aip.org/cgi-bin/getmesomething?/UID=98234692856031702475 That is, it looks like Acrobat is now "helpfully" adding a slash after the base URL when creating the full URL (URI, whatever). I couldn't find a specification for this in the PDF 1.2 manual. Sooo, do we need to change all of the links in all of our files, to avoid use of the base URL? Thanks, ch -- Chris Hamlin chamlin@aip.org _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 21-Apr-1999 15:15:19-GMT,2348;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id JAA09848 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 09:15:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA03484; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 10:11:28 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 21 Apr 1999 10:07:05 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA02999; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 10:07:01 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: whitec@nicanor.acu.edu Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199904211429.PAA05514@hrwallingford.co.uk> Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 10:09:03 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Cade White Subject: [PDF] MacOS 8.5.1 and AdobePS Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> This may have already been addressed, but I am having problems with my set up for high-res output from Quark files. Here is what I am running: MacG3 233 w/OS 8.5.1 Distiller 3.02 Here is what I am doing: 1. Installed the latest AdobePS file 2. Re-installed the original Printinglib file from the Mac CD 3. Installed the Adobe Virtual Printer ppd file Question. Why do I not have "Virtual Printer" as an option when choosing the AdobePS in the chooser? Is this not an option as it was with previous versions of the PSPrinter where you were then able to configure the Virtual Printer to a specific printer's ppd file? Thanks, Cade White _______________________________________ Instructor, Director of Photojournalism Abilene Christian University Box 27892 Abilene, Texas 79699 (915) 674-2295 cade.white@jmc.acu.edu _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 21-Apr-1999 15:15:30-GMT,1868;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id JAA09863 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 09:15:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA03665; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 10:12:15 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 21 Apr 1999 10:08:27 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA03170; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 10:08:24 -0500 Message-ID: <371DE9C4.BF7F18BE@adobe.com> Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 08:07:49 -0700 From: Roberto Perelman Organization: Adobe Systems Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Is a the FDF toolkit available in PERL? References: <38CF2360EE0CD211952500A0C9498CE76CE9B8@icex3.cc.ic.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Yes, but not supported by Adobe Developer Support until it makes its official debut at the FdfTk web site. In the mean time, I'll e-mail it to you, along with a sample that uses it. Roberto Perelman Acrobat Engineering, Forms _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 21-Apr-1999 15:38:13-GMT,3254;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id JAA10584 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 09:38:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA05668; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 10:33:36 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 21 Apr 1999 10:28:15 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA05120; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 10:28:06 -0500 Message-ID: <371DEEEE.9B6C1B50@scenicsoft.com> Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 08:29:50 -0700 From: Samantha Bailey X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] MacOS 8.5.1 and AdobePS References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Hello Cade, The "Vitual Printer" is a *plug-in* to the 8.5.1 driver. There is also a "PDF Printer Driver" plug-in which you may want to take a look at. Both can be downloaded from: http://www.adobe.com/supportservice/custsupport/LIBRARY/pdrvmac.htm You should check out the specifications and determine which will suit your needs. Regards, Samantha Cade White wrote: > > <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> > <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> > > This may have already been addressed, but I am having problems with my set > up for high-res output from Quark files. > > Here is what I am running: > MacG3 233 w/OS 8.5.1 > Distiller 3.02 > > Here is what I am doing: > > 1. Installed the latest AdobePS file > 2. Re-installed the original Printinglib file from the Mac CD > 3. Installed the Adobe Virtual Printer ppd file > > Question. > > Why do I not have "Virtual Printer" as an option when choosing the AdobePS > in the chooser? Is this not an option as it was with previous versions of > the PSPrinter where you were then able to configure the Virtual Printer to > a specific printer's ppd file? > > Thanks, > > Cade White > _______________________________________ > > Instructor, Director of Photojournalism > Abilene Christian University > Box 27892 > Abilene, Texas 79699 > (915) 674-2295 > cade.white@jmc.acu.edu > > _____________________________________________________________ > > * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * > Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM > < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 21-Apr-1999 16:10:27-GMT,2665;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id KAA11429 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 10:10:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA08563; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 11:03:43 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 21 Apr 1999 10:59:22 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA08081; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 10:59:19 -0500 Message-Id: <199904211559.KAA08075@everglades.binc.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 11:59:11 -0400 Subject: Re: [PDF] MacOS 8.5.1 and AdobePS From: "Michael DeSavoy" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id KAA08076 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> > > <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> > <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> > > This may have already been addressed, but I am having problems with my set > up for high-res output from Quark files. > > Here is what I am running: > MacG3 233 w/OS 8.5.1 > Distiller 3.02 > > > Here is what I am doing: > > 1. Installed the latest AdobePS file > 2. Re-installed the original Printinglib file from the Mac CD > 3. Installed the Adobe Virtual Printer ppd file > > Question. > > Why do I not have "Virtual Printer" as an option when choosing the AdobePS > in the chooser? Is this not an option as it was with previous versions of > the PSPrinter where you were then able to configure the Virtual Printer to > a specific printer's ppd file? > > Thanks, > > > Cade White Hi Cade: You have to enable Desktop Printing in order to use the Virtual Printer Check the read me which accompanies the driver for specifics. MacMike Michael DeSavoy Cleve, OH _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 21-Apr-1999 16:22:41-GMT,2636;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id KAA11759 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 10:22:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA10274; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 11:19:20 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 21 Apr 1999 11:14:38 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA09715; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 11:14:33 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Javascript Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 17:14:27 +0100 Message-ID: <001301be8c12$078047a0$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <199904211429.PAA05514@hrwallingford.co.uk> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> > I've successfully used the following line of javascript to do > this from > within html pages but I can't work out how to do it from a pdf file. > > window.open("AcrobatFormat/Edited/GLOSSARY.pdf","glossary","sc > rollbars,resiz > able,height=400,width=500"); Although there is only one JavaScript language, you are dealing with two different implementations here, each with their own object model. These reflect the capabilities of the system you are running in. They work in different worlds and cannot communicate. It is very unlikely that fragments from the HTML world can be reused in the Acrobat world. "window" is part of the Netscape object model, but not the Acrobat object model. I'm pretty sure there is no way to make Acrobat files which can open up those annoying little floaty windows, but if there is you will find the object model described in the JavaScript reference that comes with the forms author. Aandi _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 21-Apr-1999 17:36:18-GMT,3318;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id LAA13839 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 11:36:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA18112; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 12:31:07 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 21 Apr 1999 12:24:51 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA17529; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 12:24:47 -0500 X-Sender: prodok@pop.eunet.ch Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199904211429.PAA05514@hrwallingford.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 19:20:57 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Max Wyss Subject: Re: [PDF] Javascript Cc: Leon Miles Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Leon, Although Acrobat supports JavaScript 1.2, it does not support certain concepts and functions from that level. It is strongly recommended to thoroughly study the Acrobat JavaScript documentation (AcroJS.pdf), where you can see what is possible and what not. The instruction you mentioned is essentially to copy code which _does_ work in Acrobat JavaScript. As far as I see it, you can't do what you intend to with the script mentioned in your message. Hope, this can help. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch WWW: http://www.prodok.ch/prodok [ Bridging the Knowledge Gap ] ______________________ >Hi, > >I wonder if anyone can help me out. > >Basically I want to insert a link into a pdf file viewed in Acrobat Exchange >(but nested in Netscape) which when 'clicked' opens up a small netscape >window containing either html or another pdf file. This ought to sit on top >of the existing window and then be closed down once the user's finished, >leaving them in the same position as they were before opening the link. > >I've successfully used the following line of javascript to do this from >within html pages but I can't work out how to do it from a pdf file. > >window.open("AcrobatFormat/Edited/GLOSSARY.pdf","glossary","scrollbars,resiz >able,height=400,width=500"); > >I've followed the instructions below (taken from adobe's support database) >but when I use the code as above I get the error message, "window is not >defined" from acrobat exchange's javascript console. > >If you could see what's wrong with the code or even suggest another way of >doing it I'd be grateful. > >Cheers, > >Leon. _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 21-Apr-1999 19:55:16-GMT,2507;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id NAA17644 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 13:55:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA30632; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 14:50:51 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 21 Apr 1999 14:44:21 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA30060; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 14:44:12 -0500 Message-ID: <371E2A7B.DFD09F79@adobe.com> Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 12:43:55 -0700 From: Roberto Perelman Organization: Adobe Systems Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Has use of URL base changed in 4.0? References: <371DE4F0.137BCB7@aip.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> I've entered this as a bug in Acrobat's database. The bug number is 303347 Chris Hamlin wrote: > We've got Acrobat files with a base URL like > > http://blah.aip.org/cgi-bin/getmesomething? > > and each web link has something like > > UID=98234692856031702475 > > in it. Together they give > > http://blah.aip.org/cgi-bin/getmesomething?UID=98234692856031702475 > > and this seemed OK until someone complained about problems in > 4.0. I tried 4.0 as a plugin to IE5, and what actually gets > called is this URL: > > http://blah.aip.org/cgi-bin/getmesomething?/UID=98234692856031702475 > > That is, it looks like Acrobat is now "helpfully" adding a slash > after the base URL when creating the full URL (URI, whatever). I > couldn't find a specification for this in the PDF 1.2 manual. Sooo, > do we need to change all of the links in all of our files, to > avoid use of the base URL? _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 22-Apr-1999 0:40:28-GMT,2052;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id SAA25390 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 18:40:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA22670; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 19:34:30 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 21 Apr 1999 19:29:27 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA22293; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 19:29:24 -0500 Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 09:27:46 +0900 (JST) From: TOMITA Shigenari Message-Id: <199904220027.JAA06320@max.icu.ac.jp> To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com CC: ts@icu.ac.jp In-reply-to: <371DE9C4.BF7F18BE@adobe.com> (message from Roberto Perelman on Wed, 21 Apr 1999 08:07:49 -0700) Subject: Re: [PDF] Is a the FDF toolkit available in PERL? Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Hi Roberto, There are some people on this list who want to be a tester of your FdfTk for Perl, I'm sure. Yes, I'm one of them! :) -- TOMITA Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 08:07:49 -0700 From: Roberto Perelman Yes, but not supported by Adobe Developer Support until it makes its official debut at the FdfTk web site. In the mean time, I'll e-mail it to you, along with a sample that uses it. Roberto Perelman Acrobat Engineering, Forms _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 22-Apr-1999 3:03:03-GMT,2522;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id VAA29062 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 21:03:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA32135; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 21:57:17 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 21 Apr 1999 21:51:06 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA31640; Wed, 21 Apr 1999 21:51:03 -0500 Message-ID: <76F37B2B6013D21184E400A02461E5AF014C9976@msexchg1.wcnoc.com> From: Decker Gary E To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] "Font * contains a bad /BBox" error message Date: Wed, 21 Apr 1999 21:50:54 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> I have a large (336 pages, 865K) PDF file, produced using PDFWriter and MS Word 97, that contains mostly text, and occasionally a page with a black and white graph on it. On a few of the graph pages, when they are opened using the Reader or Exchange, the user gets the message, "The font 'ArialBlack' contains a bad /BBox.", although everything appears to be in order on the PDF. However, once that page is read, you can go to another page, then back again, and the message does not repeat. I have encountered this before with other, much smaller, documents, so I doubt that the file size is the culprit. Does anyone have any idea what this error message means, and how to fix it? Gary E. Decker, Senior Information Services Analyst Wolf Creek Nuclear Operating Corporation 1550 Oxen Lane N.E., P.O. Box 411 Burlington, KS 66839-0411 USA Phone: 316-364-8831 x8434 / 316-364-4154 fax Pager: 785-575-2588 or mailto:7855752588@mobile.att.net http://www.wcnoc.com / mailto:gadecke@wcnoc.com _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 22-Apr-1999 12:21:42-GMT,2014;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id GAA12439 for ; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 06:21:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA31593; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 07:17:22 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 22 Apr 1999 07:10:20 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA31071; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 07:10:19 -0500 From: "Martin Kjellqvist" To: Subject: [PDF] Closing PDF? Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 14:08:16 +0200 Message-ID: <000801be8cb8$cd91ad20$e4c512c2@PC312.tim.se> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Problem. I have opened a pdf document in exchange 4.0 and imported FDF data to it. Is there any way to automaticly close the document after having imported the FDF data? Can I use a javascript? I have tried with "document" -> "set Page Action" -> "Page open" -> "execute menu item" -> "close", but that didn't work. Thanks /Martin ---------------------- http://www.tim.se _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 22-Apr-1999 13:30:21-GMT,1769;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id HAA14053 for ; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 07:30:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA04165; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 08:25:46 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 22 Apr 1999 08:22:00 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA03799; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 08:21:59 -0500 Message-ID: <371F2251.D0C28063@aip.org> Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 09:21:21 -0400 From: Chris Hamlin Organization: AIP X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; I; SunOS 5.6 sun4u) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Has use of URL base changed in 4.0? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Roberto Perelman wrote: > > I've entered this as a bug in Acrobat's database. The bug number is 303347 Thanks very much for the fast answer, Roberto, it really helps to know what is going on. ch -- Chris Hamlin chamlin@aip.org _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 22-Apr-1999 22:39:31-GMT,2338;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id QAA00164 for ; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 16:39:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA27569; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 17:34:15 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 22 Apr 1999 17:31:47 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA27223; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 17:31:45 -0500 Message-Id: <4.1.19990422183106.0093a300@mail.i95.net> X-Sender: dcbiker@mail.i95.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 18:33:22 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Harold Goldstein Subject: [PDF] Quicktime Initialization ?? In-Reply-To: <199904222101.QAA18055@everglades.binc.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> There was a message earlier this week ... someone asked about this error message: "cannot initilaize Quicktime. Check your quicktime installation." i didn't see a follow-up. I get the same error message even after i uninstall and install the latest version of quicktime ... i get the message using either the acrobat reader or with exchange. I am using windows 98 ... any ideas on this one? ------------------------------------------------------------ Harold Goldstein - dcbiker@goldray.com ~~ ,__o ~^^ See the Goldpages: http://goldray.com/ ~_-\ < , ~ o \ Web Development/Internet Training (*)/ (*) ~ / { \ Save The Apes: http://biosynergy.org/bushmeat/ / { o} BIGFACE!?#%! http://bigface.com/ -- you will be released _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 22-Apr-1999 22:39:32-GMT,2296;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id QAA00167 for ; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 16:39:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA27672; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 17:35:23 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 22 Apr 1999 17:32:59 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA27390; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 17:32:58 -0500 Message-Id: <199904222232.PAA17178@dodo.prod.itd.earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 15:33:09 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] copying graphics from a PDF From: "C. Scott Miller" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> > I have tested this, and find > that the copied graphics are of very poor quality (they look like screen > resolution captures.) Try this - Zoom into your PDF file before using the marquee SELECT GRAPHICS tool. The bigger the zoom% level, the higher the resolution of the selected graphics. You can even do a select all with the SELECT GRAPHICS tool selected (grabbing the full image outside of your viewable window area) and copy and paste the entire page as a higher resolution graphic. Distilling has no affect on the resolution of your PDF vector art. -- HTH, C. Scott Miller PDF R_e_s_e_a_r_c_h__C_o_m_p_a_n_i_o_n A Designer's Guide to Adobe's Portable Document Format http://www.performancegraphics.com _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 22-Apr-1999 22:39:34-GMT,2264;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id QAA00172 for ; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 16:39:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA27556; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 17:34:10 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 22 Apr 1999 17:30:35 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA27102; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 17:30:34 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Crooks,Steve" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Proxy server Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 17:30:31 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Anybody know a way to have Acrobat get through a proxy that requires a sign-on? Or is that a change I'll have to lobby Adobe to make? For those who don't know what I'm talking about: In order for me to connect to the Internet I have to sign in to a proxy server *every time* a new conection is started with my username and password. Acrobat wants to start up a new connection to pull in a web page. Many web-savvy applications are now able to handle this type of proxy server, so I'm a little surprise that Adobe didn't allow for it. -- --Steve Crooks Steve@Crooks.net PGP key: http://www.crooks.net/SteveCrooks.asc PGP fingerprint: C537 4A0A 5B22 1498 8959 3D67 0688 9856 55ED 6349 PGP: http://www.nai.com/products/security/pgpfreeware.asp _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 22-Apr-1999 23:22:45-GMT,2138;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id RAA01383 for ; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 17:22:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA31084; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 18:17:14 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 22 Apr 1999 18:14:28 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA30788; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 18:14:27 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Quicktime Initialization ?? Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 00:14:16 +0100 Message-ID: <004101be8d15$d7e521a0$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990422183106.0093a300@mail.i95.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> > There was a message earlier this week ... someone asked about > this error > message: "cannot initilaize Quicktime. Check your quicktime > installation." > > i didn't see a follow-up. I get the same error message even after i > uninstall and install the latest version of quicktime ... i > get the message > using either the acrobat reader or with exchange. Reader 3.x is not compatible with QuickTime 3.x. Aandi _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 22-Apr-1999 21:17:52-GMT,2601;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id PAA27882 for ; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 15:17:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA18922; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 16:08:38 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 22 Apr 1999 16:01:34 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA18036; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 16:01:30 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: gertzse@po.muohio.edu Message-Id: Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 16:03:45 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Susan Gertz Subject: [PDF] copying graphics from a PDF Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Hello. I am making a series of PDF files for web distribution. We want users to be able to print and use the files as they are, but we also want them to be able to copy text and graphics from the PDF file and put these into a word processor file for their own use. I have tested this, and find that the copied graphics are of very poor quality (they look like screen resolution captures.) The original graphics are eps, and they view and print fine from the PDF file. Is there any way to create the PDF file so that the copied graphics look better? I am using distiller settings optimized for printing on a laser printer. thanks in advance Susan Gertz ____________________________________________________________________________ Susan Gertz Phone: (513) 727-3389 Manager, Document Production Fax: (513) 727-3223 Center for Chemical Education Miami University Middletown mailto:gertzse@muohio.edu Middletown, OH http://www.muohio.edu/cce/ ____________________________________________________________________________ _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 22-Apr-1999 21:57:48-GMT,2515;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id PAA29030 for ; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 15:57:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA23567; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 16:52:08 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 22 Apr 1999 16:49:35 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA23309; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 16:49:33 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] copying graphics from a PDF Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 22:49:17 +0100 Message-ID: <003a01be8d09$f87398e0$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> > Hello. I am making a series of PDF files for web distribution. We want > users to be able to print and use the files as they are, but > we also want > them to be able to copy text and graphics from the PDF file > and put these > into a word processor file for their own use. I have tested > this, and find > that the copied graphics are of very poor quality (they look > like screen > resolution captures.) You are exactly right. The "select image"..."copy" function just takes a bitmap at screen resolution, of that area of the page, whether it originally contained bitmaps, vector, or a mixture. You can improve the resolution by zooming in, but PDF is a very poor medium if your primary aim is to distribute text and graphics for reuse. PDF was only ever designed as a final medium. Aandi _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 23-Apr-1999 1:27:40-GMT,3439;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id TAA04906 for ; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 19:27:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA07964; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 20:21:58 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 22 Apr 1999 20:18:23 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA07720; Thu, 22 Apr 1999 20:18:20 -0500 Message-ID: <76F37B2B6013D21184E400A02461E5AF014C9979@msexchg1.wcnoc.com> From: Decker Gary E To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Reflow/Horizontal Spacing of Text Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 20:18:10 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> I have a document produced in Microsoft Word 97. I have been given the task of converting this document to Adobe Acrobat format, which I have done, using PDFWriter. However, the originator noted the following: There are NOTE boxes throughout the document, bounded on the top and bottom by lines made up of 125 hyphens, in Arial, 11 pt. (as is the entire document). As originally printed (on a HP LaserJet 5si), the lines above and below the NOTE boxes spanned from left to right margin, 6 1/2 inches, or 16.4 cm. This was also the case when printing to other HP LaserJet family printers, such as the 4si and 5m. However, when converted to Acrobat (embedding fonts), the lines were barely 6 1/4 inches, or 15.9 cm. As these NOTE boxes appear just before tables in the document (which are standard MS Word tables of a fixed width), there is a noticeable gap between the end of the boundary lines and the right margin when converted to Acrobat. This could be seen in MS Word as soon as the PDF Writer printer driver was selected. It is also apparent that other text in the document suffers from horizontal compression, causing lines to break in places other than the printed copy. While this might be a minor issue to some, to the originator of this document, it is imperative that the Acrobat version look the same as the printed version. I have attempted using Distiller versus PDFWriter, but the results are the same. Why is it that the horizontal spacing of fonts (at least this one) in Acrobat differs that much from that produced by a very common family of printers? What can be done about this? Gary E. Decker, Senior Information Services Analyst Wolf Creek Nuclear Operating Corporation 1550 Oxen Lane N.E., P.O. Box 411 Burlington, KS 66839-0411 USA Phone: 316-364-8831 x8434 / 316-364-4154 fax Pager: 785-575-2588 or mailto:7855752588@mobile.att.net http://www.wcnoc.com / mailto:gadecke@wcnoc.com _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 23-Apr-1999 9:07:31-GMT,1977;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id DAA16138 for ; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 03:07:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA05838; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 04:02:27 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 23 Apr 1999 03:57:38 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA05388; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 03:57:36 -0500 Message-ID: <38CF2360EE0CD211952500A0C9498CE76CE9CB@icex3.cc.ic.ac.uk> From: "Bayley, J." To: "'pdflist'" Subject: [PDF] Do you know of sample FDF or FDF toolkit source files? Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 09:57:28 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Dear All, Does anyone know of some sample FDF files or source files using the FDF toolkit? I would like to study and learn but the Adobe documentation I have found gives only very simple examples. I am particularly interested in the use of templates. Thanks James Bayley (tel. 0171 59 48691) Web Development Coordinator rm 517a Sherfield Building Imperial College, Exhibition Road, London, SW7 2AZ (Map http://www.publications.ad.ic.ac.uk/maps/sk.stm) _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 23-Apr-1999 9:28:07-GMT,2411;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id DAA16564 for ; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 03:28:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA06986; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 04:20:40 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 23 Apr 1999 04:18:10 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA06844; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 04:18:09 -0500 Message-ID: <50AFCE9910E9D211982E00608CF26D1E057C7D@mail.roundtable.com.au> From: Karl De Abrew To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Do you know of sample FDF or FDF toolkit source files? Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 19:14:13 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Hi James, > Does anyone know of some sample FDF files or source files > using the FDF > toolkit? I would like to study and learn but the Adobe > documentation I have > found gives only very simple examples. I am particularly > interested in the > use of templates. You might like to examine our AcroBuddies sign-up form that uses the ActiveX FDF toolkit at http://www.acrobuddies.com/mainpage.asp?WebPageID=290 We also have the source code available at http://www.codecuts.com/codecuts/downloads/fdfacrobuddysource.zip AND We have a JavaScript template example at http://www.codecuts.com/mainpage.asp?WebPageID=247 and Bryan Guignard's PDF templates article at http://www.acrobuddies.com/acrobuddies/pdfs/pdf_tmpl.pdf I hope this helps. regards, Karl De Abrew karl@PlanetPDF.com Planet PDF - Code Cuts, AcroBuddies and PDF Store http://www.PlanetPDF.com/ _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 23-Apr-1999 9:40:59-GMT,3025;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id DAA16849 for ; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 03:40:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA08120; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 04:37:20 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 23 Apr 1999 04:34:50 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA07910; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 04:34:49 -0500 From: "Martin Kjellqvist" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Do you know of sample FDF or FDF toolkit source files? Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 11:32:34 +0200 Message-ID: <000701be8d6c$38253720$e4c512c2@PC312.tim.se> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <38CF2360EE0CD211952500A0C9498CE76CE9CB@icex3.cc.ic.ac.uk> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Hey. You can get information and examples at www.adobe.com I know there is an exampel written in c. /Martin > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com [mailto:owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com]On > Behalf Of Bayley, J. > Sent: den 23 april 1999 10:57 > To: 'pdflist' > Subject: [PDF] Do you know of sample FDF or FDF toolkit source files? > > > > <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> > <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> > > Dear All, > Does anyone know of some sample FDF files or source files using the FDF > toolkit? I would like to study and learn but the Adobe > documentation I have > found gives only very simple examples. I am particularly interested in the > use of templates. > > Thanks > > James Bayley (tel. 0171 59 48691) > Web Development Coordinator > rm 517a Sherfield Building > Imperial College, Exhibition Road, London, SW7 2AZ > (Map http://www.publications.ad.ic.ac.uk/maps/sk.stm) > > > > > > _____________________________________________________________ > > * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * > Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM > < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > > > _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 23-Apr-1999 12:16:54-GMT,2469;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id GAA20650 for ; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 06:16:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA18102; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 07:11:43 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 23 Apr 1999 07:07:52 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA17797; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 07:07:50 -0500 X-Sender: h.goldsmith@138.250.12.2 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 13:07:20 +0000 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Hayley Goldsmith Subject: [PDF] Mac OS 8.5 problems? Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Hello PDF'ers I have a problem with Mac OS 8.5 and Acrobat 3.01 and was wondering if anyone has had the same thing and resolved it. (I know about the scan and import plug-ins - thanks for that) I am creating a postscript file from Quark 4.04 and Word 6 (problems with both). When I use certain system fonts, the application crashes and I get a type 12 error and there is no ps file. Fonts I have tried that don't work are geneva, new york, arial, century gothic, chicago - that's all I have tried so far. Fonts that do work are times, helvetica, courier, univers, franklin gothic, again that's all I've tried. I know they are system fonts and there shouldn't really be any problems, but I can't understand why this is happening. Other system fonts are okay and so are third party fonts. I have PS driver 8.3.1 and have been told that this doesn't cause problems with 8.5 - is this true in everyone else's case? Thanks for any advice Hayley Goldsmith European Case Clearing House _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 23-Apr-1999 12:56:33-GMT,2244;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id GAA21627 for ; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 06:56:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA21083; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 07:50:25 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 23 Apr 1999 07:47:26 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA20895; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 07:47:25 -0500 Date: 23 Apr 99 14:46 GMT+0200 X400-Trace: es*400net*g.v.; Arrival 23 Apr 99 14:46 GMT+0200 Action: Relayed Ua-Content-Id: 4077 99/04/23 P1-Message-Id: es*400net*g.v.;9904231446560283700 Original-Encoded-Information-Types: IA5-Text P1-Recipients: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Luis Miguel Calero To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com (Receipt Notification Requested) Message-Id: Subject: [PDF] Printing pdf from command line in MS-Windows Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> How I can print a pdf from command-line without any dilago box? I have try : C:\Acrobat3\Reader\AcroRd32.exe /p "document.pdf" but it show a dialog box. and : C:\Acrobat3\Reader\AcroRd32.exe /t "%1" "%2" "%3" "%4"???? it do not work (i don't know the correct params) Thanks. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Luis Miguel Calero Alcocel Mail: luismiguel.calero@coput.m400.gva.es ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 23-Apr-1999 13:12:30-GMT,2436;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id HAA22005 for ; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 07:12:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA22708; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 08:07:56 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 23 Apr 1999 08:05:17 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA22458; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 08:05:16 -0500 Message-ID: <372070A8.E251D038@steria.fr> Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 15:07:52 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?C=E9drick?= Le =?iso-8859-1?Q?N=E9vanen?= Organization: Steria X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Printing pdf from command line in MS-Windows References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id IAA22454 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Hi, I heard about (in this list ...) : c:\acrobat3\reader\acrord32.exe /t "c:\test\testform.pdf" "\\Adfindev2\HPLaserJet 4" "RASDD.DLL" "LPT1:" Hope this will help (I have not tried it). Luis Miguel Calero wrote: > How I can print a pdf from command-line without any dilago box? > > I have try : > > C:\Acrobat3\Reader\AcroRd32.exe /p "document.pdf" > > but it show a dialog box. > > and : > > C:\Acrobat3\Reader\AcroRd32.exe /t "%1" "%2" "%3" "%4"???? > > it do not work (i don't know the correct params) Cédrick Le Névanen mailto:cedrick.lenevanen@steria.fr Steria Midi Pyrénées (http://www.steria.com) 271, Avenue de Grande Bretagne - BP 3111 F-31026 Toulouse Cedex - FRANCE _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 23-Apr-1999 13:32:24-GMT,2154;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id HAA22481 for ; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 07:32:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA24497; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 08:25:16 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 23 Apr 1999 08:22:09 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA24191; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 08:22:08 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: gertzse@po.muohio.edu Message-Id: Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 09:24:14 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Susan Gertz Subject: [PDF] extracting text Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Does a PDF utility exist for extracting editable text files from PDF files? (Rather than copy and paste.) This would need to be a stand-alone, cross-platform utility. Also free or shreware. Hey, I'm not asking for much! ____________________________________________________________________________ Susan Gertz Phone: (513) 727-3389 Manager, Document Production Fax: (513) 727-3223 Center for Chemical Education Miami University Middletown mailto:gertzse@muohio.edu Middletown, OH http://www.muohio.edu/cce/ ____________________________________________________________________________ _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 23-Apr-1999 13:51:16-GMT,2884;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id HAA23145 for ; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 07:51:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA26615; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 08:46:57 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 23 Apr 1999 08:44:11 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA26388; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 08:44:10 -0500 Message-ID: <71CC3A1781FAD11196C500805FE606B20505B1B2@lnxdayexch03.lexis-nexis.com> From: "Bernard, Robert K." To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] extracting text Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 09:43:56 -0400 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Check out Gemini. It is a plug in that extracts text as RTF files. > -----Original Message----- > From: Susan Gertz [SMTP:gertzse@muohio.edu] > Sent: Friday, April 23, 1999 10:24 AM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: [PDF] extracting text > > > <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> > <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> > > Does a PDF utility exist for extracting editable text files from PDF > files? > (Rather than copy and paste.) This would need to be a stand-alone, > cross-platform utility. Also free or shreware. Hey, I'm not asking for > much! > __________________________________________________________________________ > __ > Susan Gertz Phone: (513) 727-3389 > Manager, Document Production Fax: (513) 727-3223 > Center for Chemical Education > Miami University Middletown mailto:gertzse@muohio.edu > Middletown, OH http://www.muohio.edu/cce/ > __________________________________________________________________________ > __ > > _____________________________________________________________ > > * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * > Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM > < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 23-Apr-1999 14:08:17-GMT,2121;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id IAA23651 for ; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 08:08:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA28269; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 09:03:30 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 23 Apr 1999 09:00:36 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA27933; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 09:00:34 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Printing pdf from command line in MS-Windows Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 15:00:21 +0100 Message-ID: <005401be8d91$a041e540$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> > How I can print a pdf from command-line without any dilago box? > > I have try : > > C:\Acrobat3\Reader\AcroRd32.exe /p "document.pdf" > > but it show a dialog box. It always will. > > and : > > C:\Acrobat3\Reader\AcroRd32.exe /t "%1" "%2" "%3" "%4"???? > > it do not work (i don't know the correct params) See the Acrobat Developer FAQ on http://beta1.adobe.com/ada/acrosdk. Aandi _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 23-Apr-1999 14:22:09-GMT,2153;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id IAA24110 for ; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 08:22:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA29585; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 09:18:50 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 23 Apr 1999 09:16:05 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA29312; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 09:16:03 -0500 Message-ID: <372081BF.FA5B6A9@pacific.net.sg> Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 22:20:47 +0800 From: jo leong X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Capture pages in Acrobat 4.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Hi, I just upgraded to Acrobat 4.0 from 3.0. Capture pages seems to 'hang' after I specify which pages to capture. Capture in 3.0 was working fine before. I uninstalled Acrobat 3.0 (leaving the shared .dll files behind when prompted by the uninstaller) and restarted windows before installing Acrobat 4.0. My system is a Pentium Celeron 350 with 64Mb running Win 95B. I've even tried uninstalling Acrobat 4.0 and reinstalling it. Also when I drop a word 97 document into Acrobat, I get an error opening saying that Acrobat is unable to start Word. Apart from that, dropping graphics files into Acrobat works fine. Would appreciate any replies. Jo Leong _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 23-Apr-1999 14:33:53-GMT,2086;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id IAA24429 for ; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 08:33:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA30527; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 09:30:03 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 23 Apr 1999 09:26:39 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA30189; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 09:26:38 -0500 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] extracting text In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 23 Apr 1999 09:24:14 CDT." Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 15:26:32 +0100 Message-ID: <4405.924877592@MessagingDirect.com> From: Chris Ridd Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> On Fri, 23 Apr 1999 09:24:14 CDT, Susan Gertz wrote: > > <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> > <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> > > Does a PDF utility exist for extracting editable text files from PDF files? > (Rather than copy and paste.) This would need to be a stand-alone, > cross-platform utility. Also free or shreware. Hey, I'm not asking for much! Ghostscript can do this. Your definition of "editable" might be different from Ghostscript's though... http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~ghost/ Chris _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 23-Apr-1999 15:18:47-GMT,3188;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id JAA25862 for ; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 09:18:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA02240; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 10:13:57 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 23 Apr 1999 10:11:09 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA01983; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 10:11:07 -0500 Message-id: Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 07:16:26 +0100 Subject: Re: [PDF] Mac OS 8.5 problems? To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Cc: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: werner@rapidgraphics.com (Steve Werner) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> pdf@lists.pdfzone.com writes: >I have a problem with Mac OS 8.5 and Acrobat 3.01 and was wondering if >anyone has had the same thing and resolved it. (I know about the scan and >import plug-ins - thanks for that) > >I am creating a postscript file from Quark 4.04 and Word 6 (problems with >both). When I use certain system fonts, the application crashes and I get >a type 12 error and there is no ps file. > >Fonts I have tried that don't work are geneva, new york, arial, century >gothic, chicago - that's all I have tried so far. Fonts that do work are >times, helvetica, courier, univers, franklin gothic, again that's all I've >tried. > >I know they are system fonts and there shouldn't really be any problems, >but I can't understand why this is happening. Other system fonts are okay >and so are third party fonts. > >I have PS driver 8.3.1 and have been told that this doesn't cause problems >with 8.5 - is this true in everyone else's case? Quite to the contrary, PS driver 8.3.1 is more likely the culprit, even if it's not selected in the Chooser. Here is a portion of a memo for Adobe Authorized Service Providers, sent in November: "We've heard about several printing problems from customers who have recently updated to Mac OS 8.5 and who have the Adobe PSPrinter 8.3.1. printer driver installed in the Extension folder. These printing problems seem to occur even if the PSPrinter driver is not chosen in the Chooser. Here are some examples of the problem: * Pages printing blank * Undefined PostScript errors * System errors when distilling PostScript files * System freezes "Solution: 1. Remove Adobe PSPrinter 8.3.1 from the Extensions folder in the System folder. 2. Install the AdobePS 8.5.1 driver from the Adobe Web site." Best, ^Steve^ _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 23-Apr-1999 16:40:11-GMT,1907;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id KAA28570 for ; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 10:40:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA09970; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 11:31:18 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 23 Apr 1999 11:27:58 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA09542; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 11:27:56 -0500 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Mac OS 8.5 problems? In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 23 Apr 1999 07:16:26 BST." Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 17:27:38 +0100 Message-ID: <4537.924884858@MessagingDirect.com> From: Chris Ridd Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> On Fri, 23 Apr 1999 07:16:26 BST, Steve Werner wrote: > "Solution: 1. Remove Adobe PSPrinter 8.3.1 from the Extensions folder in > the System folder. 2. Install the AdobePS 8.5.1 driver from the Adobe Web > site." I've had no problems with the Apple Laserwriter driver supplied with Mac OS 8.5/8.5.1, for what it is worth. The distiller works fine, etc etc. Chris _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 23-Apr-1999 17:39:45-GMT,2276;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id LAA00643 for ; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 11:39:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA15851; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 12:34:37 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 23 Apr 1999 12:31:22 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA15530; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 12:31:20 -0500 Message-Id: <199904231731.TAA04743@mail.mbi-berlin.de> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Heusler" Organization: mbi-berlin.de To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 19:29:30 -1 Subject: [PDF] Word 7.0 to PDF: Font problem X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.53/R1) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> When converting a document written by Word 7.0 (Win95) using the PDF-Writer 3.0, some characters get wrong: 1. Error message: "The font 'Symbol,Italic' contains a bad /BBox" appears when opening in Acrobat. I understood that Adobe Symbol does not have an italic typeface. What can I do to get my characters right? 2. Without an error message some other special characters (like arrows in Arial bold italic) get wrong. Embedding the fonts when converting to PDF could not sort the problem. Can anybody give me a clue?? Thanks, Gero Heusler --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gero Heusler heusler@mbi-berlin.de Max-Born-Institut Rudower Chaussee 6 12489 Berlin Tel.: *49-30-63921218 Fax.: *49-30-63921229 _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 23-Apr-1999 17:51:18-GMT,1770;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id LAA00991 for ; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 11:51:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA16892; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 12:47:19 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 23 Apr 1999 12:44:38 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA16596; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 12:44:37 -0500 Message-ID: <3720B176.567CA2A7@adobe.com> Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 10:44:22 -0700 From: Roberto Perelman Organization: Adobe Systems Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Do you know of sample FDF or FDF toolkit source files? References: <38CF2360EE0CD211952500A0C9498CE76CE9CB@icex3.cc.ic.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> I'll e-mail you a complete example that uses templates. This one in particular uses the Java flavor of the FdfTk. _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 23-Apr-1999 18:21:33-GMT,2250;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id MAA01941 for ; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 12:21:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA19626; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 13:16:33 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 23 Apr 1999 13:13:41 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA19300; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 13:13:39 -0500 Message-Id: <4.1.19990423141248.00996710@mail.i95.net> X-Sender: dcbiker@mail.i95.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 14:15:24 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Harold Goldstein Subject: [PDF] Indices on CD Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Is there any parrticular trick in building an index, with Catalog, publishing it and the pdf documents to a CD and having the index recognized and searchable on the CD? i've beenb having a situation where the index seems to work just fine while everything is on my hard drive but the index isn't found when it is on the CD using the identical directory structure. thank you. ------------------------------------------------------------ Harold Goldstein - dcbiker@goldray.com ~~ ,__o ~^^ See the Goldpages: http://goldray.com/ ~_-\ < , ~ o \ Web Development/Internet Training (*)/ (*) ~ / { \ Save The Apes: http://biosynergy.org/bushmeat/ / { o} BIGFACE!?#%! http://bigface.com/ -- you will be released _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 23-Apr-1999 18:38:03-GMT,2047;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id MAA02513 for ; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 12:38:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA21444; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 13:35:12 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 23 Apr 1999 13:32:07 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA21201; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 13:32:04 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Indices on CD Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 19:31:43 +0100 Message-ID: <005901be8db7$8a11b360$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990423141248.00996710@mail.i95.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> > Is there any parrticular trick in building an index, with Catalog, > publishing it and the pdf documents to a CD and having the > index recognized > and searchable on the CD? To make life easier for yourself, stick to the most restrictive CDROM file name rules. 8.3 file names, all upper case, no spaces, only letters and numbers. Aandi _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 23-Apr-1999 20:31:26-GMT,4005;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id OAA06101 for ; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 14:31:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA31547; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 15:27:19 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 23 Apr 1999 15:24:13 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA31205; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 15:24:10 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19990423132608.00947100@stonewall.george.com> X-Sender: pcopelan@stonewall.george.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 13:26:08 +0100 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Patti Copeland Subject: Re: [PDF] Word 7.0 to PDF: Font problem In-Reply-To: <199904231731.TAA04743@mail.mbi-berlin.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> First, don't PostScript to PDF-Writer 3.0. I have had excellent results postscripting Word documents with trueType fonts (Wingdings and BAsigs, "symbol" type font) with Adobe's Acrobat Distiller 3.0 printer. This, and the Adobe PS5 driver (which I believe is the one for Win95/98) to load it are free at the Adobe website. Make sure in the Advanced tab of the Document Defaults of the Acrobat Distiller 3.0 Printer that TrueType Font is set to Download as softfont. and under Postscript Options, set true type font download options as Bitmap. and under Properties in the Device Settings tab in the Font substitution table, you set all fonts to Dont Substitute. You will also, In your Acrobat Distiller settings, in the Font Embedding tab, have to add those "trouble" fonts in the Always embed list. This sort of "double embeds" as windows doesnt really Embed True Type fonts well. It's a PC thing. I am on WinNT, but I believe this will hopefully help you too. Patti Patti Copeland Digital Imaging Technician George Lithograph, PAA George Lithograph [415] 715/2400 pcopelan@george.com At 07:29 PM 4/23/99 -1, you wrote: > ><- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> ><- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> > >When converting a document written by Word 7.0 (Win95) using the >PDF-Writer 3.0, some characters get wrong: > >1. Error message: "The font 'Symbol,Italic' contains a bad /BBox" >appears when opening in Acrobat. I understood that Adobe Symbol does >not have an italic typeface. What can I do to get my characters >right? > >2. Without an error message some other special characters (like >arrows in Arial bold italic) get wrong. Embedding the fonts when >converting to PDF could not sort the problem. Can anybody give me a >clue?? > >Thanks, > >Gero Heusler >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- >Gero Heusler heusler@mbi-berlin.de >Max-Born-Institut >Rudower Chaussee 6 >12489 Berlin >Tel.: *49-30-63921218 >Fax.: *49-30-63921229 > >_____________________________________________________________ > > * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * > Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM > < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > > > > _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 23-Apr-1999 20:49:19-GMT,1757;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id OAA06793 for ; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 14:49:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA00267; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 15:46:04 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 23 Apr 1999 15:43:27 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA32763; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 15:43:24 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC2C706823FD211963400805FBEDF4E63145B@gsomail> From: "Perry, Bob" To: PDF List Subject: [PDF] No Distiller Assistant with Acrobat 4? Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 15:43:11 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> What happened to Distiller Assistant in Acrobat 4.0? That was my favorite PDF creator. Is the new PDFMaker as good as Distiller Assistant was? I've been using Distiller Assistant for so long I've forgotten how to use Distiller alone. Thanks, -Bob Perry -ASA Inc. _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 23-Apr-1999 21:36:02-GMT,3203;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id PAA08369 for ; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 15:36:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA04144; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 16:30:17 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 23 Apr 1999 16:25:50 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA03785; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 16:25:49 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Crooks,Steve" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Proxy server Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 16:25:44 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> A little more info in case anyone is interested or having the same difficulty.... I found out I could get around this by: 1) Use IE5 to pull down whatever I want to capture for "offline viewing". 2) Put IE5 in "Work Offline" mode. 3) Use Acrobat to pull in the web site. 4) Delete the saved data from IE5. A pain, but it works. -- --Steve Crooks Steve@Crooks.net -----Original Message----- From: Crooks,Steve [mailto:SCROOKS@cerner.com] Sent: Thursday, April 22, 1999 5:31 PM To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' Subject: [PDF] Proxy server <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Anybody know a way to have Acrobat get through a proxy that requires a sign-on? Or is that a change I'll have to lobby Adobe to make? For those who don't know what I'm talking about: In order for me to connect to the Internet I have to sign in to a proxy server *every time* a new conection is started with my username and password. Acrobat wants to start up a new connection to pull in a web page. Many web-savvy applications are now able to handle this type of proxy server, so I'm a little surprise that Adobe didn't allow for it. -- --Steve Crooks Steve@Crooks.net PGP key: http://www.crooks.net/SteveCrooks.asc PGP fingerprint: C537 4A0A 5B22 1498 8959 3D67 0688 9856 55ED 6349 PGP: http://www.nai.com/products/security/pgpfreeware.asp _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 23-Apr-1999 21:39:32-GMT,2429;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id PAA08437 for ; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 15:39:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA04684; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 16:36:32 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 23 Apr 1999 16:33:20 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA04445; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 16:33:19 -0500 X-Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated X-Division: Core Technologies X-Department: Product Interoperability Analysis X-URL: X-Location: Remote (ISAACS_REMOTE) Message-Id: <4.1.19990423143159.009c6140@mail-303> X-Sender: isaacs@mail-303 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 14:33:13 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com, "Perry, Bob" From: Dov Isaacs Subject: Re: [PDF] No Distiller Assistant with Acrobat 4? In-Reply-To: <3FC2C706823FD211963400805FBEDF4E63145B@gsomail> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> At 4/23/99 01:43 PM , you wrote: > ><- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> ><- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> > >What happened to Distiller Assistant in Acrobat 4.0? That was my favorite >PDF creator. Is the new PDFMaker as good as Distiller Assistant was? I've >been using Distiller Assistant for so long I've forgotten how to use >Distiller alone. >Thanks, > >-Bob Perry >-ASA Inc. The Distiller Assistant was replaced with a Distiller printer port which is much more highly integrated with the Windows PostScript driver. - Dov _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 23-Apr-1999 21:58:23-GMT,2616;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id PAA09567 for ; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 15:58:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA06180; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 16:55:33 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 23 Apr 1999 16:52:52 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA05871; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 16:52:50 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] No Distiller Assistant with Acrobat 4? Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 22:52:35 +0100 Message-ID: <005e01be8dd3$992e0b20$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <3FC2C706823FD211963400805FBEDF4E63145B@gsomail> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> There's an "Acrobat Distiller" printer. And there is a process called "acrotray", which is like Distiller Assistant, but invisible. People who (I can only assume) had too much time on their hands and couldn't find any real bugs would complain about Distiller Assistant sitting on the task bar, so Adobe hid it. So, printing to "Acrobat Distiller" should make a PDF, and view it too, if you like. Since acrotray is invisible, its settings have moved and are hidden away in Distiller itself. The distinction between Distiller and the process formerly known as Distiller Assistant is therefore getting kind of blurred. Aandi > > What happened to Distiller Assistant in Acrobat 4.0? That > was my favorite > PDF creator. Is the new PDFMaker as good as Distiller > Assistant was? I've > been using Distiller Assistant for so long I've forgotten how to use > Distiller alone. _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 23-Apr-1999 22:33:41-GMT,2228;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id QAA13715 for ; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 16:33:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA09379; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 17:31:11 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 23 Apr 1999 17:28:22 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA09124; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 17:28:20 -0500 From: rob_hakanson@mentorg.com (Rob Hakanson) Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 15:28:07 -0700 Message-Id: <9904231528.ZM25303@mandolin> In-Reply-To: owner-pdf-digest@lists.pdfzone.com (pdf-digest) "pdf-digest for April-23-99 [V2 #499]" (Apr 23, 4:52pm) References: <199904232152.QAA05890@everglades.binc.net> X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.1 10oct95) To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] vertical whitespace in the bookmark pane Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> I have a rather odd question. I want to place some vertical whitespace in the bookmark pane, to separate different components of my manual. I've figured out how to add a null action, blank titled bookmark by editing the PostScript file. The problem is, even with a blank title, the blank bookmark has the dog-eared icon at the left. I would prefer a truly blank space. Is there any way to either suppress the dog-eared icon that goes with a bookmark, or to add vertical whitespace within the bookmark pane by some other means? Thanks, Rob Hakanson Mentor Graphics _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 25-Apr-1999 0:36:10-GMT,3466;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id SAA19610 for ; Sat, 24 Apr 1999 18:36:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA30492; Sat, 24 Apr 1999 19:31:08 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 24 Apr 1999 19:22:55 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA29922; Sat, 24 Apr 1999 19:22:53 -0500 Message-ID: <76F37B2B6013D21184E400A02461E5AF014C9982@msexchg1.wcnoc.com> From: Decker Gary E To: "'Acrobat Talk'" , "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] RE: Reflow/Horizontal Spacing of Text Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 19:22:37 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Much thanks to all who have responded to my problem of reflowing text in a MSWord document. The one consensus seems to be to use Distiller instead of PDFWriter to avoid reflow problems. But wait... On the Planet PDF website, in "Ask Aandi," under "The importance of managing your PDFs and source documents," Aandi Inston said: "Let's hope you didn't use the combination of TrueType fonts and Distiller (instead of PDFWriter). If you did, the text in the file is just a collection of little symbols and you will not be able to use any of the above [referring to instructions he had given earlier in the article, regarding selecting text in a document]..." Two things that I'm sure my originator will insist on: 1) The ability to do searches on the text (I've even built an index using Catalog for this purpose, since there will be several documents in the end); and 2) The ability to select and copy text from the document. Is using Distiller going to cause me problems in either scenario? Gary Decker, Senior IS Analyst Wolf Creek Nuclear Operating Corporation, Burlington KS USA > ---------- > From: Dov Isaacs[SMTP:isaacs@adobe.com] > > Having said that, the solution for applications such as Word is to > ALWAYS use a "standard" for generating output. One way of doing this > is to always create a PDF from Word via Distiller using the exact > same driver and Distiller settings, especially as related to > device resolution. Choose a resolution no lower than the highest > resolution that you may ever print to. Effectively, you then use > Acrobat to do all your "real" printing from Word. > NOTE: When setting up a Word document, you would need to have > the Acrobat Distiller printer as your current printer associated > with Word or else formatting will change when you print. > Also note that I very specifically did not give instructions to > use PDFWriter! > > - Dov > _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 25-Apr-1999 14:48:41-GMT,3026;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id IAA07797 for ; Sun, 25 Apr 1999 08:48:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA06703; Sun, 25 Apr 1999 09:43:18 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 25 Apr 1999 09:39:13 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA06463; Sun, 25 Apr 1999 09:39:11 -0500 Date: 25 Apr 99 07:39:03 -0700 From: Robert Ameeti Subject: RE: [PDF] No Distiller Assistant with Acrobat 4? To: pdf X-Mailer: QuickMail Pro 1.5.4 (Mac) X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-Ascii" Message-Id: <19990425143904.SXOH6468.mail.rdc2.occa.home.com@[24.0.210.12]> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id JAA06459 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Reply to: RE: [PDF] No Distiller Assistant with Acrobat 4? On a Mac: I've just switched over to Adobe's 8.5.1 print driver, and have the Page Setup configured Format For: Acrobat PDF. The Print dialog then shows Printer: Acrobat PDF. All is well and fine except that now the documents end up in an invisible folder named Temporary Items. Find File can find them but I can't get to them to open them or use them because they are in this invisible folder. This is due to the fact that the documents are printed 'automatically' with the Print dialog purposely not being shown to the user. Yes, if I maually do a Print, then I can name the document and put it wherever I want, but if the document is printed without the Print dialog, the documents are getting stuck in this invisible folder. Help. BTW, I HATE invisible anythings. The computer is mine. The software is purchased. Don't do things behind my back or hide things from me. Put them somewhere, anywhere you like, but don't hide them from me. > So, printing to "Acrobat Distiller" should make a PDF, and > view it too, if you like. Since acrotray is invisible, its > settings have moved and are hidden away in Distiller itself. > The distinction between Distiller and the process formerly known > as Distiller Assistant is therefore getting kind of blurred. Regards, Robert Robert Ameeti rameeti@home.com _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 25-Apr-1999 19:52:58-GMT,2159;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id NAA14665 for ; Sun, 25 Apr 1999 13:52:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA23117; Sun, 25 Apr 1999 14:47:51 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 25 Apr 1999 14:44:17 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA22915; Sun, 25 Apr 1999 14:44:15 -0500 From: "Aviel Shatz" To: Subject: [PDF] RE: pdf-digest for April-23-99 [V2 #499] Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 22:43:46 -0400 Message-ID: <000001be8f8e$9b57c0a0$9acbcdcf@ds-dataset.com.DATASET> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <199904232152.QAA05890@everglades.binc.net> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Any specific address? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 09:43:56 -0400 From: "Bernard, Robert K." Subject: RE: [PDF] extracting text <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Check out Gemini. It is a plug in that extracts text as RTF files. > -----Original Message----- _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 25-Apr-1999 23:36:43-GMT,4189;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id RAA19985 for ; Sun, 25 Apr 1999 17:36:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA02562; Sun, 25 Apr 1999 18:32:07 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 25 Apr 1999 18:27:15 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA02235; Sun, 25 Apr 1999 18:27:08 -0500 X-Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated X-Division: Core Technologies X-Department: Product Interoperability Analysis X-URL: X-Location: Remote (ISAACS_REMOTE) Message-Id: <4.1.19990425162341.009cd4c0@mail-303> X-Sender: isaacs@mail-303 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 16:26:20 -0700 To: Decker Gary E From: Dov Isaacs Subject: Re: [PDF] RE: Reflow/Horizontal Spacing of Text Cc: "'Acrobat Talk'" , "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" In-Reply-To: <76F37B2B6013D21184E400A02461E5AF014C9982@msexchg1.wcnoc.co m> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> The combination of Acrobat 4 and AdobePS 4.3 PostScript Driver (to be released soon) on Window'9x eliminates any TrueType problems in terms of PDF generation. PDF files so generated may be properly searched with Acrobat 4 on any platform on which you have Acrobat 4 or Acrobat 4 Reader. - Dov At 4/24/99 05:22 PM , Decker Gary E wrote: >Much thanks to all who have responded to my problem of reflowing text in >a MSWord document. The one consensus seems to be to use Distiller >instead of PDFWriter to avoid reflow problems. But wait... > >On the Planet PDF website, in "Ask Aandi," under "The importance of >managing your PDFs and source documents," Aandi Inston said: > >"Let's hope you didn't use the combination of TrueType fonts and >Distiller (instead of PDFWriter). If you did, the text in the file is >just a collection of little symbols and you will not be able to use any >of the above [referring to instructions he had given earlier in the >article, regarding selecting text in a document]..." > >Two things that I'm sure my originator will insist on: 1) The ability >to do searches on the text (I've even built an index using Catalog for >this purpose, since there will be several documents in the end); and 2) >The ability to select and copy text from the document. Is using >Distiller going to cause me problems in either scenario? > >Gary Decker, Senior IS Analyst >Wolf Creek Nuclear Operating Corporation, Burlington KS USA > >> ---------- >> From: Dov Isaacs[SMTP:isaacs@adobe.com] >> >> Having said that, the solution for applications such as Word is to >> ALWAYS use a "standard" for generating output. One way of doing this >> is to always create a PDF from Word via Distiller using the exact >> same driver and Distiller settings, especially as related to >> device resolution. Choose a resolution no lower than the highest >> resolution that you may ever print to. Effectively, you then use >> Acrobat to do all your "real" printing from Word. >> NOTE: When setting up a Word document, you would need to have >> the Acrobat Distiller printer as your current printer associated >> with Word or else formatting will change when you print. >> Also note that I very specifically did not give instructions to >> use PDFWriter! >> >> - Dov _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 26-Apr-1999 2:08:11-GMT,1730;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id UAA23578 for ; Sun, 25 Apr 1999 20:08:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA11154; Sun, 25 Apr 1999 21:02:43 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 25 Apr 1999 20:55:57 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA10651; Sun, 25 Apr 1999 20:55:56 -0500 Message-ID: <50AFCE9910E9D211982E00608CF26D1E057CD8@mail.roundtable.com.au> From: Karl De Abrew To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] RE: pdf-digest for April-23-99 [V2 #499] Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 11:52:02 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Hi, > Any specific address? > > Check out Gemini. It is a plug in that extracts text as RTF files. Try - http://www.iceni.com/ regards, Karl De Abrew karl@PlanetPDF.com http://www.PlanetPDF.com/ _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 26-Apr-1999 8:18:31-GMT,2185;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id CAA02226 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 02:18:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA30854; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 03:13:10 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 26 Apr 1999 03:09:23 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA30646; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 03:09:21 -0500 From: "Martin Kjellqvist" To: Subject: [PDF] Save, save as... Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 10:07:24 +0200 Message-ID: <000c01be8fbb$d15c5c60$e4c512c2@PC312.tim.se> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Hey Is there any way to disable the prompt that comes up every 10th time you save a document? It says something like "if you use 'save as' you will reduse the file size ... etc" Why does the file size get bigger every time you save the same document?? I am trying to send a mail with attachment (PDF doc) and need to automize the "save" function ,in acrobat, (after having imported FDF data) so that the attachement contains the latest information. look forward to suggestions /Martin --------------------------------- http://www.tim.se _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 26-Apr-1999 8:42:40-GMT,2927;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id CAA02703 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 02:42:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA32199; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 03:39:59 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 26 Apr 1999 03:37:17 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA32055; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 03:37:16 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Save, save as... Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 09:36:57 +0100 Message-ID: <000c01be8fbf$f31ad4e0$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 In-Reply-To: <000c01be8fbb$d15c5c60$e4c512c2@PC312.tim.se> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> > Is there any way to disable the prompt that comes up every > 10th time you > save a document? Not so far as I know; it's a very good idea. Though I can see the inconvenience for automation. > > It says something like "if you use 'save as' you will reduse > the file size > ... etc" > > Why does the file size get bigger every time you save the > same document?? This is the way PDF is designed. When a document is changed, it is not modified; instead, extra information is added at the end. The extra information contains the new parts, the changed parts, and even a list of the deleted parts. This is a good idea: it means that a small change to a very large PDF can be saved very quickly. Save as forces Acrobat to reorganise and eliminate the dead parts of the file. This is potentially very slow for a large file. It should be done as a final step before publishing a document. > > I am trying to send a mail with attachment (PDF doc) and need > to automize > the "save" function ,in acrobat, > (after having imported FDF data) so that the attachement > contains the latest information. Since the size of an e-mail is very important, I'd suggest using a Save As before sending it in any case. Aandi _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 26-Apr-1999 9:26:53-GMT,3726;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id DAA03670 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 03:26:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA01307; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 04:13:32 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 26 Apr 1999 04:10:26 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA01125; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 04:10:25 -0500 From: "Martin Kjellqvist" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Save, save as... Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 11:08:31 +0200 Message-ID: <000d01be8fc4$5b628da0$e4c512c2@PC312.tim.se> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-Reply-To: <000c01be8fbf$f31ad4e0$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Is there a plugin that will automize the "save as" function? /Martin > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com [mailto:owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com]On > Behalf Of Aandi Inston > Sent: den 26 april 1999 10:37 > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: RE: [PDF] Save, save as... > > > > <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> > <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> > > > Is there any way to disable the prompt that comes up every > > 10th time you > > save a document? > > Not so far as I know; it's a very good idea. Though I can > see the inconvenience for automation. > > > > It says something like "if you use 'save as' you will reduse > > the file size > > ... etc" > > > > Why does the file size get bigger every time you save the > > same document?? > > This is the way PDF is designed. When a document is changed, > it is not modified; instead, extra information is added at the > end. The extra information contains the new parts, the changed > parts, and even a list of the deleted parts. > > This is a good idea: it means that a small change to a very large > PDF can be saved very quickly. > > Save as forces Acrobat to reorganise and eliminate the dead > parts of the file. This is potentially very slow for a large > file. It should be done as a final step before publishing a > document. > > > > I am trying to send a mail with attachment (PDF doc) and need > > to automize > > the "save" function ,in acrobat, > > (after having imported FDF data) so that the attachement > > contains the latest information. > > Since the size of an e-mail is very important, I'd suggest using > a Save As before sending it in any case. > > Aandi > > _____________________________________________________________ > > * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * > Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM > < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > > > _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 26-Apr-1999 9:28:51-GMT,1870;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id DAA03703 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 03:28:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA02026; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 04:26:35 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 26 Apr 1999 04:24:06 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA01863; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 04:24:05 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Save, save as... Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 10:23:50 +0100 Message-ID: <000d01be8fc6$7f762ba0$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 In-Reply-To: <000d01be8fc4$5b628da0$e4c512c2@PC312.tim.se> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> > Is there a plugin that will automize the "save as" function? The DDE, OLE, and AppleScript interfaces to Exchange all include the ability to SAVE AS. Aandi _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 26-Apr-1999 11:51:23-GMT,2359;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id FAA06648 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 05:51:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA09174; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 06:45:56 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 26 Apr 1999 06:42:24 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA09014; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 06:42:22 -0500 Message-Id: <4.1.19990426074021.009689e0@mail.i95.net> X-Sender: dcbiker@mail.i95.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 07:44:16 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Harold Goldstein Subject: [PDF] legacy scan at high compression; won't capture. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> we have some old 'legacy' scans ... they are all gif/tif files and are all text. when originally scanned the intent was to make them available as gifs/tifs and so they were highly compressed to the point that they were readable but small files. now we need to convert to pdf but these old images are of low enough resolution that capture doesnt work and we'd like to capture them. is there a way to capture lower resolution images that we can use?? ------------------------------------------------------------ Harold Goldstein - dcbiker@goldray.com ~~ ,__o ~^^ See the Goldpages: http://goldray.com/ ~_-\ < , ~ o \ Web Development/Internet Training (*)/ (*) ~ / { \ Save The Apes: http://biosynergy.org/bushmeat/ / { o} BIGFACE!?#%! http://bigface.com/ -- you will be released _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 26-Apr-1999 12:14:43-GMT,2464;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id GAA07140 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 06:14:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA10825; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 07:09:50 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 26 Apr 1999 07:07:19 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA10659; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 07:07:18 -0500 Message-ID: <372456D0.88FBAA2C@moen.com> Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 08:06:40 -0400 From: Jennifer Amon X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.07C-SGI [en] (X11; I; IRIX 6.3 IP32) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] No Distiller Assistant with Acrobat 4? References: <005e01be8dd3$992e0b20$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Hmm. And what about those of us who were using the Distiller Assistant with watched directories to automatically produce PDFs from Postscript files. Can I still set up this Acrotray to act automatically on a watched directory. I have a major process that depends on that. Jennifer Amon Aandi Inston wrote: > There's an "Acrobat Distiller" printer. And there is a process > called "acrotray", which is like Distiller Assistant, but > invisible. -- _____________________________________________________________________ Jennifer R. Amon Phone: 440-962-2471 Sr. Programmer/Analyst FAX: 440-962-2739 Moen Incorporated Personal: jamon@apk.net 25300 Al Moen Drive Business: jamon@moen.com North Olmsted, OH 44070 Web: http://junior.apk.net/~jamon/ _____________________________________________________________________ _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 26-Apr-1999 12:28:57-GMT,3372;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id GAA07514 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 06:28:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA11696; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 07:21:23 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 26 Apr 1999 07:18:49 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA11530; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 07:18:48 -0500 From: "A2I" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] legacy scan at high compression; won't capture. Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 08:19:13 -0400 Message-ID: <000201be8fde$feb46720$54d0fdcf@vlvrbldb.videotron.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990426074021.009689e0@mail.i95.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Check out a site called www.informatik.com, they have a suite of products called Tifkits, one of the module allows to reduce the resolution of tif's, very affordable. regards from Montréal -----Original Message----- From: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com [mailto:owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com]On Behalf Of Harold Goldstein Sent: 26 avril, 1999 07:44 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] legacy scan at high compression; won't capture. <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> we have some old 'legacy' scans ... they are all gif/tif files and are all text. when originally scanned the intent was to make them available as gifs/tifs and so they were highly compressed to the point that they were readable but small files. now we need to convert to pdf but these old images are of low enough resolution that capture doesnt work and we'd like to capture them. is there a way to capture lower resolution images that we can use?? ------------------------------------------------------------ Harold Goldstein - dcbiker@goldray.com ~~ ,__o ~^^ See the Goldpages: http://goldray.com/ ~_-\ < , ~ o \ Web Development/Internet Training (*)/ (*) ~ / { \ Save The Apes: http://biosynergy.org/bushmeat/ / { o} BIGFACE!?#%! http://bigface.com/ -- you will be released _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 26-Apr-1999 12:57:18-GMT,1920;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id GAA08144 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 06:57:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA13865; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 07:51:02 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 26 Apr 1999 07:48:08 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA13592; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 07:48:06 -0500 Content-return: allowed Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 08:47:53 -0400 From: "Watson, James R (Columbus)" Subject: RE: [PDF] No Distiller Assistant with Acrobat 4? To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Message-id: <5913080CA46DD111A98200A0C9960C10013CC0C9@ns-bco-mse7.im.battelle.org> X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> > BTW, I HATE invisible anythings. The computer is mine. The software is > purchased. Don't do things behind my back or hide things from me. Put them > somewhere, anywhere you like, but don't hide them from me. > >>>>I could not agree with you more. To many time I wasted time tracking a problem to an invisible file or folder! I wished the capability had never been invented. Jim _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 26-Apr-1999 13:39:19-GMT,2741;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id HAA09251 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 07:39:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA17549; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 08:32:48 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 26 Apr 1999 08:29:58 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA17320; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 08:29:57 -0500 Message-ID: <37246AA0.81BB7F25@wanadoo.fr> Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 15:31:13 +0200 From: Michel Lausseur X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [fr] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: fr MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] legacy scan at high compression; won't capture. References: <000201be8fde$feb46720$54d0fdcf@vlvrbldb.videotron.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> > Check out a site called www.informatik.com, they have a suite of products > called Tifkits, one of the module allows to reduce the resolution of > tif's, very affordable. The problem seems to be the opposite : not reduce resolution but enhance instead ? ... > we have some old 'legacy' scans ... they are all gif/tif files and are all > text. when originally scanned the intent was to make them available as > gifs/tifs and so they were highly compressed to the point that they were > readable but small files. > now we need to convert to pdf but these old images are of low enough > resolution that capture doesnt work and we'd like to capture them. > is there a way to capture lower resolution images that we can use?? Your GIF, and probably your TIFF file formats use lossless algorithms (LZW, CCITT3 or 4), so I guess your problem is only due to lower resolution scanning (200 dpi instead of 300 for instance ?). Do you know which exact resolution has been used ? And have you already tested Acrobat Capture with such files, or have you only doubts about the future results ? Michel Lausseur Aalto Consultant _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 26-Apr-1999 14:03:17-GMT,2208;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id IAA09971 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 08:03:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA20217; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 08:57:30 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 26 Apr 1999 08:54:20 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA19901; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 08:54:19 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] No Distiller Assistant with Acrobat 4? Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 14:53:58 +0100 Message-ID: <000e01be8fec$3c20f800$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 In-Reply-To: <372456D0.88FBAA2C@moen.com> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> > Hmm. And what about those of us who were using the Distiller > Assistant with watched directories to automatically produce > PDFs from Postscript files. Can I still set up this Acrotray > to act automatically on a watched directory. I have a major > process that depends on that. Initial findings seem to be that AcroTray does not do that. I might speculate that on "today's" machines, the overhead of leaving Distiller running to process its own directories is not really very high. Aandi _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 26-Apr-1999 15:15:45-GMT,2986;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id JAA12239 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 09:15:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA26186; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 10:09:47 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 26 Apr 1999 10:03:45 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA25673; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 10:03:43 -0500 Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 11:02:49 -0400 From: Jennifer Amon To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] No Distiller Assistant with Acrobat 4? In-Reply-To: <000e01be8fec$3c20f800$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Ouch! So what are my alternatives? On Mon, 26 Apr 1999, Aandi Inston wrote: > > <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> > <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> > > > > Hmm. And what about those of us who were using the Distiller > > Assistant with watched directories to automatically produce > > PDFs from Postscript files. Can I still set up this Acrotray > > to act automatically on a watched directory. I have a major > > process that depends on that. > > Initial findings seem to be that AcroTray does not do that. > I might speculate that on "today's" machines, the overhead > of leaving Distiller running to process its own directories > is not really very high. > > Aandi > > _____________________________________________________________ > > * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * > Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM > < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > > _____________________________________________________________________ Jennifer R. Amon Phone: 440-962-2471 Sr. Programmer/Analyst FAX: 440-962-2739 Moen Incorporated Personal: jamon@apk.net 25300 Al Moen Drive Business: jamon@moen.com North Olmsted, OH 44070 Web: http://junior.apk.net/~jamon/ _____________________________________________________________________ _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 26-Apr-1999 15:46:21-GMT,2517;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id JAA13204 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 09:46:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA29231; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 10:40:17 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 26 Apr 1999 10:34:51 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA28708; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 10:34:49 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] No Distiller Assistant with Acrobat 4? Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 16:34:35 +0100 Message-ID: <001201be8ffa$49d2cba0$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> > > > Hmm. And what about those of us who were using the Distiller > > > Assistant with watched directories to automatically produce > > > PDFs from Postscript files. Can I still set up this Acrotray > > > to act automatically on a watched directory. I have a major > > > process that depends on that. > > > > Initial findings seem to be that AcroTray does not do that. > > I might speculate that on "today's" machines, the overhead > > of leaving Distiller running to process its own directories > > is not really very high. > > Ouch! So what are my alternatives? I'm not sure I understand the problem. Why is leaving Distiller running an issue? Distiller has always watched its own directories and has never required assistance from Distiller Assistant. Aandi _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 26-Apr-1999 21:23:27-GMT,3511;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id PAA24429 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 15:23:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA26750; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 16:17:46 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 26 Apr 1999 16:13:27 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA26334; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 16:13:26 -0500 Message-ID: <3724D6C1.80D11C0F@moen.com> Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 17:12:33 -0400 From: Jennifer Amon X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.07C-SGI [en] (X11; I; IRIX 6.3 IP32) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] No Distiller Assistant with Acrobat 4? References: <001201be8ffa$49d2cba0$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Ahhh. Right as rain. It is not an issue. I can leave Distiller up and running. I thought I was losing the watched directory capability for something that had to be run manually or called via command line every time it was needed. My misunderstanding. J. Aandi Inston wrote: > > <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> > <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> > > > > > Hmm. And what about those of us who were using the Distiller > > > > Assistant with watched directories to automatically produce > > > > PDFs from Postscript files. Can I still set up this Acrotray > > > > to act automatically on a watched directory. I have a major > > > > process that depends on that. > > > > > > Initial findings seem to be that AcroTray does not do that. > > > I might speculate that on "today's" machines, the overhead > > > of leaving Distiller running to process its own directories > > > is not really very high. > > > > Ouch! So what are my alternatives? > > I'm not sure I understand the problem. Why is leaving Distiller > running an issue? Distiller has always watched its own directories > and has never required assistance from Distiller Assistant. > > Aandi > > _____________________________________________________________ > > * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * > Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM > < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > -- _____________________________________________________________________ Jennifer R. Amon Phone: 440-962-2471 Sr. Programmer/Analyst FAX: 440-962-2739 Moen Incorporated Personal: jamon@apk.net 25300 Al Moen Drive Business: jamon@moen.com North Olmsted, OH 44070 Web: http://junior.apk.net/~jamon/ _____________________________________________________________________ _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 27-Apr-1999 6:57:34-GMT,1905;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id AAA09820 for ; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 00:57:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA32361; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 01:51:21 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 27 Apr 1999 01:45:26 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA32014; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 01:45:22 -0500 Message-ID: <37255E2B.8CA4D961@reporters.net> Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 14:50:19 +0800 From: "F. Marc de Piolenc" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "PDF List (posts)" Subject: [PDF] Extracting text Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Somebody just posted advice on this topic (extracting bulk text from .pdf documents for use elsewhere) and of course I wasn't interested at the time, so I deleted the message. As I recall there was a program somewhere that converts .pdf text to an RTF. Whoever you are, could you send me that message privately? Thanks in advance. Marc de Piolenc Autodidactics _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 27-Apr-1999 7:07:15-GMT,2613;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id BAA10001 for ; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 01:07:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA00264; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 02:01:20 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 27 Apr 1999 01:58:52 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA00037; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 01:58:51 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19990427090100.0092e760@ms90.vtex.lt> X-Sender: sarunas@ms90.vtex.lt X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 09:01:00 +0100 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Sarunas Subject: [PDF] Non-TeX workflows? In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Dear all, We (at our company) are using TeX/dvips/Distiller wokflow to make electronic publications. For example, journal archive on CD with fully functional hypertext contents and indices. From the LaTeX source it is quite easy to control almost anything from the background colour to archive-wide navigation system and to cross-referencing between documents, contents and indexes. In some cases though a majority of contributions may come in something else than LaTeX. It may be MS Word for Mac or Windows, or other WYSIWYG system. Could anyone share a brief sketch on a (non-TeX/non-dvips)-based workflow if such exists (any platform)? For example: A set of Winword documents is given as an input, where titles, authors and keywords are tagged somehow. Could then hypertext contents, author and keyword indices be programmatically created, resulting in a system of PDF documents with a rich hypertext structure? Thank you! Sarunas Burdulis Head Electronic Publishing, VTEX Ltd. sarunas@vtex.lt Office +370 2 729609, GSM +370 98 24498 _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 27-Apr-1999 9:16:40-GMT,2594;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id DAA12801 for ; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 03:16:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA07312; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 04:11:37 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 27 Apr 1999 04:08:29 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA07157; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 04:08:28 -0500 Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 10:06:46 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: <199904270906.KAA19179@hrwallingford.co.uk> From: Leon Miles Content-Type: text/plain To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Resetting page problems X-Mailer: Pronto E-Mail [ver 4.0.2.5] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Hi, I wonder if anyone can help me out. In order to access the bibliography and glossary to a book I'm publishing online in pdf format, I've opted to link from the pages of the book viewed in an acrobat plug-in in the right hand frame of a netscape browser to a new, smaller window which can be closed down once the user has looked up the term/reference they are interested in. The link is to an intermediate html file which upon loading runs a javascript to open this smaller window. I've successfully achieved this, but now have a problem with the view in the original browser window. It automatically jumps to the beginning of the appropriate pdf file. i.e. if the user is on page 7 and wishes to look up a term, they can click on that trem and view its definition in the glossary in this smaller browser window, closing it down once they've finished, but in the meantime the original pdf file they were reading has jumped back to page 1. This obviously interrupts the flow for a reader. Can anyone suggest how I might get over this problem? Regards, Leon Miles. _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 27-Apr-1999 10:27:30-GMT,2672;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id EAA14365 for ; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 04:27:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA11266; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 05:22:02 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 27 Apr 1999 05:17:25 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA11000; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 05:17:24 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990427111804.00975ec0@altair.herts.ac.uk> X-Sender: cimqsgt@altair.herts.ac.uk X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 11:18:04 +0100 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Simon Tanner Subject: [PDF] Sorting image files by pixel dimension In-Reply-To: <199904270906.KAA19179@hrwallingford.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Hi, Does anyone know of an automated way to sort image files by their pixel dimensions? I want to be able to separate those files which are wider than their height (generally landscape like) from those which are higher than they are wide (generally portrait like). The images are all varying pixel dimensions, and may be in colour, B&W or greyscale. They are coming from a source where I cannot control the delivery/scanning so they are all mixed up together. I need to be able to process the files to standardised pixel dimensions based on the longest dimension (either height or width). This process is automated so I want to be able to feed it automatically as well. Any suggestions would be welcome. Simon ======================================================================= Simon Tanner Email: S.G.Tanner@herts.ac.uk Digitisation Consultant (HEDS) Phone: 01707 286078 Higher Education Digitisation Service Fax: 01707 286079 University of Hertfordshire Web: http://heds.herts.ac.uk _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 27-Apr-1999 12:02:27-GMT,2450;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id GAA16445 for ; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 06:02:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA16829; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 06:57:00 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 27 Apr 1999 06:53:21 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA16497; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 06:53:20 -0500 From: "Martin Kjellqvist" To: Subject: [PDF] automize "save as" and more.. Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 13:51:56 +0200 Message-ID: <000401be90a4$5963c6a0$e4c512c2@PC312.tim.se> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Hi all. Is there any way to automize "save as" in acrobat? I am trying to send a mail with attachment (PDF doc) and need to automize the "save as" function ,in acrobat, (after having imported FDF data) so that the attachement contains the latest information. I have done this with the "save" function but after saving the document a couple of times it gets really big.. I am using NT4. (Aandi said something about OLE, but I am more interested in a plugin.. Or an example of a working sulution :) ) Is there any way to set the number of documents open at the same time in acrobat 4? I tried the autoclose plug-in, but it didn't work with acrobat 4 (only v 3.0x). Is there a similiar plug-in that works with acrobat exchange 4? I only want one document at time to be open. thanks. /Martin _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 27-Apr-1999 12:15:27-GMT,2451;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id GAA16748 for ; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 06:15:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA18026; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 07:12:15 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 27 Apr 1999 07:09:40 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA17797; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 07:09:38 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] automize "save as" and more.. Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 13:09:31 +0100 Message-ID: <000801be90a6$ce8758a0$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <000401be90a4$5963c6a0$e4c512c2@PC312.tim.se> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> > Is there any way to automize "save as" in acrobat? > > I am trying to send a mail with attachment (PDF doc) and need > to automize > the "save as" function ,in acrobat, > (after having imported FDF data) so that the attachement > contains the latest > information. > > I have done this with the "save" function but after saving > the document a > couple of times it gets really big.. > I am using NT4. (Aandi said something about OLE, but I am > more interested in > a plugin.. Or an example of a working sulution :) ) You can do this with OLE or DDE as I said. But how are you automating Acrobat now? Just by simulating keystrokes? So far as I know there is no plug-in which does SAVE AS without any prompt. Aandi _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 27-Apr-1999 12:47:56-GMT,2360;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id GAA17420 for ; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 06:47:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA20318; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 07:43:43 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 27 Apr 1999 07:39:49 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA19948; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 07:39:48 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: gertzse@po.muohio.edu Message-Id: Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 08:42:04 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Susan Gertz Subject: [PDF] buttons and actions Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> I want to attach a "go to view" command to a button to make it go to page 2 (table of contents) each time. I can get to the selection of "go to view" as an action, but at that point Acrobat won't let you go to a new page to set the action like you can for a link. I want to use a button rather than a link so that I can copy it from page to page and also use "mouse over" to change its appearance. Thanks for all help! ____________________________________________________________________________ Susan Gertz Phone: (513) 727-3389 Manager, Document Production Fax: (513) 727-3223 Center for Chemical Education Miami University Middletown mailto:gertzse@muohio.edu Middletown, OH http://www.muohio.edu/cce/ ____________________________________________________________________________ _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 27-Apr-1999 13:10:37-GMT,2286;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id HAA17965 for ; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 07:10:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA22330; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 08:07:57 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 27 Apr 1999 08:04:55 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA22025; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 08:04:54 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] buttons and actions Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 14:04:47 +0100 Message-ID: <000001be90ae$87c07980$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> > I want to attach a "go to view" command to a button to make > it go to page 2 > (table of contents) each time. I can get to the selection of > "go to view" > as an action, but at that point Acrobat won't let you go to a > new page to > set the action like you can for a link. I want to use a > button rather than > a link so that I can copy it from page to page and also use > "mouse over" to change its appearance. Ah, there's the trick. You can't change a page, so you make the button on its target page. Now you can copy/paste it to where you actually want it. Aandi _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 27-Apr-1999 13:26:15-GMT,3421;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id HAA18309 for ; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 07:26:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA23456; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 08:21:58 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 27 Apr 1999 08:19:27 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA23237; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 08:19:26 -0500 Message-ID: <882866C049DED211AE830008C7394A101C742F@obiwan.intecom.com> From: "Hiatt, Mike" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] automize "save as" and more.. Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 08:21:06 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Get yourself a Gateway Anykey keyboard (if you can find one) and the Anykey software to go with it. This allows you to program the function keys (F1, F2, etc.) with keystroke combinations. I currently have three keys programmed to insert pages (for concatenating files), save as (once I have saved the file with the new name) and create booksmarks (once I have highlighted the text). I have the Anykey keyboard and software on a WinNT machine so I know it works. Main thing is to load the Anykey software in the correct directory. Michel G. Hiatt Senior Tech Writer Intecom Inc. mhiatt@intecom.com -----Original Message----- From: Aandi Inston [mailto:quite@dial.pipex.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 1999 7:10 AM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] automize "save as" and more.. <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> > Is there any way to automize "save as" in acrobat? > > I am trying to send a mail with attachment (PDF doc) and need > to automize > the "save as" function ,in acrobat, > (after having imported FDF data) so that the attachement > contains the latest > information. > > I have done this with the "save" function but after saving > the document a > couple of times it gets really big.. > I am using NT4. (Aandi said something about OLE, but I am > more interested in > a plugin.. Or an example of a working sulution :) ) You can do this with OLE or DDE as I said. But how are you automating Acrobat now? Just by simulating keystrokes? So far as I know there is no plug-in which does SAVE AS without any prompt. Aandi _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 27-Apr-1999 13:32:54-GMT,3408;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id HAA18450 for ; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 07:32:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA24162; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 08:30:09 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 27 Apr 1999 08:27:33 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA23933; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 08:27:31 -0500 Message-Id: <199904271327.IAA23926@everglades.binc.net> Date: 27 Apr 99 09:25:54 -0400 From: Justin Blocksom Subject: Re: [PDF] No Distiller Assistant with Acrobat 4? To: pdf X-Mailer: QuickMail Pro 1.5.2 (Mac) X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-Ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id IAA23929 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Reply to: Re: [PDF] No Distiller Assistant with Acrobat 4? > Hmm. And what about those of us who were using the Distiller > Assistant with watched directories to automatically produce > PDFs from Postscript files. > I might speculate that on "today's" machines, the overhead > of leaving Distiller running to process its own directories > is not really very high. >> >> I'm not sure I understand the problem. Why is leaving Distiller >> running an issue? Distiller has always watched its own directories >>and has never required assistance from Distiller Assistant. >> >>Aandi On the contrary, when Distiller Assistant is set up correctly, it launches Distiller when it sees something in the watched directory, Distiller processes it, and it Distiller automatically closes itself. I have this workflow instituted with my clients, as well as on my own machine. While it is a bit more technical to setup than simply setting up watched folders and putting a shortcut into the startup folder, I thought it was saving valuable resources on the PC by opening and closing Distiller only when needed. Am I mistaken? And is this a better workflow? My theory is, Adobe abandoned the Distiller Assistant concept because even their technical manual on proper setup was so A-D-B-Z-F in order, it took a PC technically oriented person just to understand what it was they were saying. (It took me about 2 or 3 attempts to get the order of setup right.) And since the above is a no-brainer, it smoothed the creation and automation path, helping to ensure a positive PDF experience. (My goal as well with my clients.) Opinions? Others with Distiller Assistant experience? Justin Blocksom Digital Production Group Printing & Publications Corp. jblocksom@printandpub.com _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 27-Apr-1999 14:01:23-GMT,3273;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id IAA19137 for ; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 08:01:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA26314; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 08:54:59 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 27 Apr 1999 08:52:15 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA26119; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 08:52:14 -0500 Date: 27 Apr 99 06:52:03 -0700 From: Robert Ameeti Subject: RE: [PDF] automize save as and more.. To: pdf X-Mailer: QuickMail Pro 1.5.4 (Mac) X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-Ascii" Message-Id: <19990427135202.LYEE6468.mail.rdc2.occa.home.com@[24.0.210.12]> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id IAA26111 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Reply to: RE: [PDF] automize save as and more.. Better and cheaper than buying a new keyboard and using Anykey software which is very limited in its capabilities, try CE Softwares QuicKeys. It will do all you need plus a whole lot more. They have a demo at www.cesoft.com > Get yourself a Gateway Anykey keyboard (if you can find one) and the Anykey > software to go with it. This allows you to program the function keys (F1, > F2, etc.) with keystroke combinations. I currently have three keys > programmed to insert pages (for concatenating files), save as (once I have > saved the file with the new name) and create booksmarks (once I have > highlighted the text). > > I have the Anykey keyboard and software on a WinNT machine so I know it > works. Main thing is to load the Anykey software in the correct directory. > > Is there any way to automize "save as" in acrobat? > > > > I am trying to send a mail with attachment (PDF doc) and need > > to automize > > the "save as" function ,in acrobat, > > (after having imported FDF data) so that the attachement > > contains the latest > > information. > > > > I have done this with the "save" function but after saving > > the document a > > couple of times it gets really big.. > > I am using NT4. (Aandi said something about OLE, but I am > > more interested in > > a plugin.. Or an example of a working sulution :) ) > > You can do this with OLE or DDE as I said. > > But how are you automating Acrobat now? Just by simulating > keystrokes? So far as I know there is no plug-in which does > SAVE AS without any prompt. Regards, Robert Robert Ameeti rameeti@home.com _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 27-Apr-1999 14:09:24-GMT,3531;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id IAA19375 for ; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 08:09:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA27280; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 09:04:03 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 27 Apr 1999 09:01:35 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA27047; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 09:01:34 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] No Distiller Assistant with Acrobat 4? Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 15:01:28 +0100 Message-ID: <000301be90b6$7256eea0$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <199904271327.IAA23926@everglades.binc.net> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> > >> I'm not sure I understand the problem. Why is leaving Distiller > >> running an issue? Distiller has always watched its own directories > >>and has never required assistance from Distiller Assistant. > >> >>Aandi > > On the contrary, when Distiller Assistant is set up > correctly, it launches Distiller when it sees something in > the watched directory, Distiller processes it, > and it Distiller automatically closes itself. I didn't say Distiller Assistant didn't do that; only that it has never been necessary to work that way. > I have this > workflow instituted with my > clients, as well as on my own machine. While it is a bit more > technical to setup than > simply setting up watched folders and putting a shortcut into > the startup folder, I thought it was saving valuable > resources on the PC by opening and closing Distiller > only when needed. Am I mistaken? And is this a better workflow? You may be right - though it's not entirely clear what resources are saved. Distiller uses very few resources except memory, and will largely swap out when idly monitoring directories (I'd hope). > > My theory is, Adobe abandoned the Distiller Assistant concept > because even their > technical manual on proper setup was so A-D-B-Z-F in order, > it took a PC technically > oriented person just to understand what it was they were > saying. (It took me about 2 or > 3 attempts to get the order of setup right.) And since the > above is a no-brainer, it > smoothed the creation and automation path, helping to ensure > a positive PDF experience. > (My goal as well with my clients.) Opinions? Others with > Distiller Assistant experience? My theory is that when Distiller Assistant was re-implemented for Acrobat 4, that nobody realised it was supposed to do that. Aandi _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 27-Apr-1999 14:41:08-GMT,1800;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id IAA20326 for ; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 08:41:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA29886; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 09:32:57 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 27 Apr 1999 09:29:32 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA29574; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 09:29:30 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC2C706823FD211963400805FBEDF4E63153D@gsomail> From: "Perry, Bob" To: PDF List Subject: [PDF] Getting framed after submitting a PDF form Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 09:29:19 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> My online PDF form is in a frame. When I submit it, I also set the next action to be to go to a www page. This page happens to be an ASP page, and it always gets framed. I know how to avoid getting framed using HTML in my frameset, but how do I prevent it when my target is an ASP page? Thanks, -Bob Perry _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 27-Apr-1999 15:28:56-GMT,2734;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id JAA21823 for ; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 09:28:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA01362; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 10:24:40 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 27 Apr 1999 10:21:47 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA00993; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 10:21:46 -0500 From: robert.richard@hrdc-drhc.gc.ca X-Internal-ID: 3724C28C00001BA0 Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 11:07:29 -0400 Message-ID: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Index finger & arrow in Acrobat Reader 3.01. X-Incognito-SN: 1395 X-Incognito-Version: 4.25.361 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> PDFZone list, Old message dated 2/25/99 4:52 PM: I had wrote----------- "...I notice that links built with the link tool "Go To View" and form tool "Form Fields" dont display the same little mouse pointers. Respectively, GTV is hand with index finger strecth out and FF is with regular arrow point. I would rather that my agents see the index finger,viusally its more appealing and different. They will be new to this pdf stuff resources..." Scott Hamlow reply-------------- "...It's normal. Most form fields are not links, so the visual feedback would be wrong. Perhaps you can put a link around the form field..." My new question--------------------------- Today, I tried to implement above suggestion. Unfortunately, I am not permitted to update to Forms 3.5 for my Acrobat 3.0, so adding a link around the Form Fields is what I need. I have tried putting a link over and under my existing Form Fields, but it is not working as suggested. With the link option, what should be the setup for Highlight and Action Type in the link properties? Also, should the link be under or over the existing Form Fields. Thanks in advance for reply, Robert Richard. _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 27-Apr-1999 15:56:10-GMT,3119;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id JAA22736 for ; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 09:56:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA03892; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 10:52:48 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 27 Apr 1999 10:48:57 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA03461; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 10:48:55 -0500 X-Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated X-Division: Core Technologies X-Department: Product Interoperability Analysis X-URL: Message-Id: <4.1.19990427084236.00a2b3e0@mail-303> X-Sender: isaacs@mail-303 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 08:48:02 -0700 To: Justin Blocksom From: Dov Isaacs Subject: Re: [PDF] No Distiller Assistant with Acrobat 4? Cc: pdf In-Reply-To: <199904271327.IAA23926@everglades.binc.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> At 4/27/99 06:25 AM , Justin Blocksom wrote: >My theory is, Adobe abandoned the Distiller Assistant concept because even >their >technical manual on proper setup was so A-D-B-Z-F in order, it took a PC >technically >oriented person just to understand what it was they were saying. (It took >me about 2 or >3 attempts to get the order of setup right.) And since the above is a >no-brainer, it >smoothed the creation and automation path, helping to ensure a positive PDF >experience. >(My goal as well with my clients.) Opinions? Others with Distiller Assistant >experience? > >Justin Blocksom The "Distiller Assistant" suffered from an inelegant implementation and had an installation process that was not at all integrated well with the installation of either Acrobat or our PostScript drivers. The replacement for the Distiller Assistant is highly integrated with the Acrobat 4 installation process. It is a no brainer. And it is easy to "add" a new printer instance that associates itself as an Acrobat printer. The only reason why someone would want a watched folder with a running Distiller would be if they needed an ability to automate the conversion of existing PostScript files, possibly being copied from other other systems, but not direct output from the Adobe Windows PostScript drivers. - Dov _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 27-Apr-1999 16:23:52-GMT,3416;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id KAA23726 for ; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 10:23:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA06812; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 11:20:28 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 27 Apr 1999 11:18:02 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA06586; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 11:18:00 -0500 From: "Scott Hamlow" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Index finger & arrow in Acrobat Reader 3.01. Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 09:17:43 -0700 Message-ID: <000201be90c9$7aa65560$45a2fecc@scotth.fourgen.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2232.26 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> I know I'm contradicting myself, but I've learned you can't put a link on top of a form (or a form on top of a link). You either have one or the other. If you can't upgrade to forms 3.5 or Reader 3.02, then you're stuck with the arrow. > I had wrote----------- > > "...I notice that links built with the link tool "Go To View" and form tool > "Form Fields" dont display the same little mouse pointers. Respectively, > GTV is hand with index finger strecth out and FF is with regular arrow > point. I would rather that my agents see the index finger,viusally its more > appealing and different. They will be new to this pdf stuff resources..." > > Scott Hamlow reply-------------- > > "...It's normal. Most form fields are not links, so the visual feedback > would be wrong. Perhaps you can put a link around the form field..." > > My new question--------------------------- > > Today, I tried to implement above suggestion. > > Unfortunately, I am not permitted to update to Forms 3.5 for my Acrobat 3.0, > so adding a link around the Form Fields is what I need. I have tried > putting a link over and under my existing Form Fields, but it is not > working as suggested. > > With the link option, what should be the setup for Highlight and Action > Type in the link properties? Also, should the link be under or over the > existing Form Fields. > > Thanks in advance for reply, > > Robert Richard. > > > _____________________________________________________________ > > * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * > Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM > < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > > > _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 27-Apr-1999 16:25:02-GMT,2938;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id KAA23746 for ; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 10:25:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA06701; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 11:19:19 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 27 Apr 1999 11:16:26 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA06402; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 11:16:24 -0500 Message-Id: <199904271616.LAA06384@everglades.binc.net> Date: 27 Apr 99 12:15:57 -0400 From: Justin Blocksom Subject: Re: [PDF] No Distiller Assistant with Acrobat 4? To: pdf X-Mailer: QuickMail Pro 1.5.2 (Mac) X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-Ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id LAA06395 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Reply to: Re: [PDF] No Distiller Assistant with Acrobat 4? >The only reason why someone would want a watched folder with a running >Distiller would be if they needed an ability to automate the conversion >of existing PostScript files, possibly being copied from other other >systems, but not direct output from the Adobe Windows PostScript drivers. > > - Dov On the contrary, that is _exactly_ what I want to do. I want clients to be able to create PDF files on their PC to our specifications, regardless of their PC ability or know-how, and I want it to be as easy as printing to disk. I want them to follow an A-B-C guide that I will provide for them, instructing them how to set up a postscript printer that automatically prints to file using a ppd for our printers, (ensures accurate color and integrity), have that file goto said directory and put the file on disk/ftp/e-mail, when it pops into the out folder. Distiller Assistant 3.x did all this and more, as it was able to call Distiller only when it needed it. After I was able to decipher the Adobe instructions into a more user friendly language, I included that as part of the setup package that I would distribute to our clients. Justin Blocksom Digital Production Group Printing & Publications Corp. jblocksom@printandpub.com _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 27-Apr-1999 17:05:39-GMT,1710;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id LAA02920 for ; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 11:05:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA10460; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 12:00:43 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 27 Apr 1999 11:57:39 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA10076; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 11:57:37 -0500 Message-ID: <3725EC6A.B720A50@adobe.com> Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 09:57:14 -0700 From: Roberto Perelman Organization: Adobe Systems Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] buttons and actions References: <000001be90ae$87c07980$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> In addition to Aandi's approach, you can also use Javascript to navigate, instead of the GoTo action. _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 27-Apr-1999 17:13:25-GMT,3456;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id LAA05258 for ; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 11:13:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA11186; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 12:07:54 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 27 Apr 1999 12:05:18 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA10969; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 12:05:15 -0500 X-Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated X-Division: Core Technologies X-Department: Product Interoperability Analysis X-URL: Message-Id: <4.1.19990427100214.00b63380@mail-303> X-Sender: isaacs@mail-303 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 10:04:15 -0700 To: Justin Blocksom From: Dov Isaacs Subject: Re: [PDF] No Distiller Assistant with Acrobat 4? Cc: pdf In-Reply-To: <199904271616.LAA06384@everglades.binc.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> At 4/27/99 09:15 AM , Justin Blocksom wrote: > ><- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> ><- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> > > Reply to: Re: [PDF] No Distiller Assistant with Acrobat 4? >>The only reason why someone would want a watched folder with a running >>Distiller would be if they needed an ability to automate the conversion >>of existing PostScript files, possibly being copied from other other >>systems, but not direct output from the Adobe Windows PostScript drivers. >> >> - Dov > >On the contrary, that is _exactly_ what I want to do. I want clients to be able >to create PDF files on their PC to our specifications, regardless of their >PC ability or know-how, and I want it to be as easy as printing to disk. >I want them to follow an A-B-C guide that I will provide for them, instructing >them how to set up a postscript printer that automatically prints to file using >a ppd for our printers, (ensures accurate color and integrity), have that file >goto said directory and put the file on disk/ftp/e-mail, when it pops into the >out folder. > >Distiller Assistant 3.x did all this and more, as it was able to call >Distiller only >when it needed it. After I was able to decipher the Adobe instructions into >a more user friendly language, I included that as part of the setup package >that I would distribute to our clients. > >Justin Blocksom And Acrobat 4 does just that. The installation of Acrobat 4 creates a printer instance that effectively does exactly what Distiller Assistant did, but much more dependably. What problem do you see with it? - Dov _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 27-Apr-1999 17:18:06-GMT,2107;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id LAA06728 for ; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 11:18:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA11531; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 12:11:10 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 27 Apr 1999 12:08:31 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA11253; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 12:08:30 -0500 Message-ID: <3725FD38.51C534B3@wordman.com> Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 13:08:57 -0500 From: David Doonan X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] acrobat 4 and seps Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> I was under the assumption that Acrobat 4 would have the ability to deal with separations. Just spent a couple of hours wrestling with a quark file containing a duotone. Using Distiller and a postscript file gave me either a negative image, or cyan only. After converting the image to cmyk, I was able to successfully make a press optimized pdf. Are there additional controls that I'm missing that will allow a p/s file containing a duotone to convert in a pdf? -- David Doonan Word Management Albany, New York http://www.wordman.com _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 27-Apr-1999 18:00:28-GMT,2373;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id MAA12889 for ; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 12:00:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA15520; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 12:55:54 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 27 Apr 1999 12:53:08 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA15280; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 12:53:04 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990427135449.009831b0@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 13:54:49 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] Sorting image files by pixel dimension In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19990427111804.00975ec0@altair.herts.ac.uk> References: <199904270906.KAA19179@hrwallingford.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> > >Does anyone know of an automated way to sort image files by their pixel >dimensions? I want to be able to separate those files which are wider than >their height (generally landscape like) from those which are higher than >they are wide (generally portrait like). > I don't use the product myself, but I suspect you might be able to do this via scripting in Corel PhotoPaint, or possibly VBA in an upcoming release of the product. Might want to check the newsgroup ... news.corel.ca perhaps? Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 27-Apr-1999 18:01:07-GMT,1958;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id MAA12915 for ; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 12:01:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA15838; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 12:58:31 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 27 Apr 1999 12:56:02 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA15532; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 12:56:00 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990427135748.0098e440@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 13:57:48 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: RE: [PDF] automize "save as" and more.. In-Reply-To: <882866C049DED211AE830008C7394A101C742F@obiwan.intecom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> >Get yourself a Gateway Anykey keyboard And it solves the probly of finding the Any Key when the Press Anykey to Continue prompt comes up? Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 27-Apr-1999 18:39:04-GMT,2617;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id MAA14188 for ; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 12:39:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA18921; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 13:33:21 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 27 Apr 1999 13:30:14 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA18533; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 13:30:13 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: gertzse@po.muohio.edu Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3725EC6A.B720A50@adobe.com> References: <000001be90ae$87c07980$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 14:32:27 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Susan Gertz Subject: Re: [PDF] buttons and actions Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Does anyone have a set of Javascripts for common actions? ><- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> ><- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> > >In addition to Aandi's approach, you can also use Javascript to navigate, >instead of the GoTo action. > > > >_____________________________________________________________ > > * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * > Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM > < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > ____________________________________________________________________________ Susan Gertz Phone: (513) 727-3389 Manager, Document Production Fax: (513) 727-3223 Center for Chemical Education Miami University Middletown mailto:gertzse@muohio.edu Middletown, OH http://www.muohio.edu/cce/ ____________________________________________________________________________ _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 27-Apr-1999 18:59:32-GMT,4642;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id MAA14886 for ; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 12:59:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA20966; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 13:55:14 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 27 Apr 1999 13:52:37 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA20670; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 13:52:36 -0500 Message-ID: <01BE90BC.E448CBE0.David_Tamburello@mazer.com> From: Dave Tamburello To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] No Distiller Assistant with Acrobat 4? Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 14:47:36 -0400 Organization: Mazer Corporation X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Good point, Justin. For my training classes, getting a full setup, especially on NT, was either something to spend a whole morning on, or something to leave for the IT guys to handle. It wasn't a problem for technical people, but for those who's experience consisted of a few years of fairly tame MS Office use, it was a bear. Distiller Assistant was the most abstract concept to explain and the hardest portion to install properly. I think the average user will be happier with the setup process now. I can certainly see giving it a 1/2 an hour instead of 1/2 a day in my classes. David M.Tamburello Training Specialist Mazer e-Publishing Grand Rapids, MI 49546 (616)285-3900 ext. 232 (616)285-3950 FAX Ask me about Acrobat 4.0 training! -----Original Message----- From: Justin Blocksom [SMTP:jblocksom@printandpub.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 1999 9:26 AM To: pdf Subject: Re: [PDF] No Distiller Assistant with Acrobat 4? <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Reply to: Re: [PDF] No Distiller Assistant with Acrobat 4? > Hmm. And what about those of us who were using the Distiller > Assistant with watched directories to automatically produce > PDFs from Postscript files. > I might speculate that on "today's" machines, the overhead > of leaving Distiller running to process its own directories > is not really very high. >> >> I'm not sure I understand the problem. Why is leaving Distiller >> running an issue? Distiller has always watched its own directories >>and has never required assistance from Distiller Assistant. >> >>Aandi On the contrary, when Distiller Assistant is set up correctly, it launches Distiller when it sees something in the watched directory, Distiller processes it, and it Distiller automatically closes itself. I have this workflow instituted with my clients, as well as on my own machine. While it is a bit more technical to setup than simply setting up watched folders and putting a shortcut into the startup folder, I thought it was saving valuable resources on the PC by opening and closing Distiller only when needed. Am I mistaken? And is this a better workflow? My theory is, Adobe abandoned the Distiller Assistant concept because even their technical manual on proper setup was so A-D-B-Z-F in order, it took a PC technically oriented person just to understand what it was they were saying. (It took me about 2 or 3 attempts to get the order of setup right.) And since the above is a no-brainer, it smoothed the creation and automation path, helping to ensure a positive PDF experience. (My goal as well with my clients.) Opinions? Others with Distiller Assistant experience? Justin Blocksom Digital Production Group Printing & Publications Corp. jblocksom@printandpub.com _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 27-Apr-1999 19:23:22-GMT,2217;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id NAA15672 for ; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 13:23:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA23487; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 14:17:09 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 27 Apr 1999 14:14:26 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA23158; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 14:14:24 -0500 Message-ID: <01BE90BF.EF094CF0.David_Tamburello@mazer.com> From: Dave Tamburello To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] buttons and actions Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 15:09:22 -0400 Organization: Mazer Corporation X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Not yet, but for linking you might try this.pageNum = or, (Acrobat JS spec page 43) if you have 4.0, create Destination and use gotoNamedDest("name") (Acrobat JS spec page 47) David M.Tamburello Training Specialist Mazer e-Publishing Grand Rapids, MI 49546 (616)285-3900 ext. 232 (616)285-3950 FAX Ask me about Acrobat 4.0 training! -----Original Message----- From: Susan Gertz [SMTP:gertzse@muohio.edu] Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 1999 3:32 PM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] buttons and actions <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Does anyone have a set of Javascripts for common actions? _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 27-Apr-1999 21:00:57-GMT,2398;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id PAA18820 for ; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 15:00:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA32590; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 15:54:13 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 27 Apr 1999 15:50:57 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA32217; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 15:50:55 -0500 Date: 27 Apr 99 13:50:24 -0700 From: Robert Ameeti Subject: Re: [PDF] No Distiller Assistant with Acrobat 4? To: pdf X-Mailer: QuickMail Pro 1.5.4 (Mac) X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-Ascii" Message-Id: <19990427205024.QBYC6468.mail.rdc2.occa.home.com@[24.0.210.12]> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id PAA32211 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Reply to: Re: [PDF] No Distiller Assistant with Acrobat 4? The problem that I have with it is that Distiller by default creates the postscript documents and the resulting .pdf documents in an invisible folder (on the Mac platform) that the user can not get see. This Temporary Items folder is flushed when the machine is restarted. Quite a problem in my mind. Prior to the latest version, these documents created at the desktop, were visible, and could be dealt with as needed. > And Acrobat 4 does just that. The installation of Acrobat 4 creates > a printer instance that effectively does exactly what Distiller Assistant > did, but much more dependably. What problem do you see with it? Regards, Robert Robert Ameeti rameeti@home.com _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 27-Apr-1999 21:24:42-GMT,3346;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id PAA19571 for ; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 15:24:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA02091; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 16:20:44 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 27 Apr 1999 16:18:09 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA01828; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 16:18:06 -0500 X-Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated X-Division: Core Technologies X-Department: Product Interoperability Analysis X-URL: Message-Id: <4.1.19990427141153.00b67530@mail-303> X-Sender: isaacs@mail-303 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 14:17:18 -0700 To: Robert Ameeti From: Dov Isaacs Subject: Re: [PDF] No Distiller Assistant with Acrobat 4? Cc: pdf In-Reply-To: <19990427205024.QBYC6468.mail.rdc2.occa.home.com@[24.0.210. 12]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> At 4/27/99 01:50 PM , Robert Ameeti wrote: >The problem that I have with it is that Distiller by default creates the >postscript documents and the resulting .pdf documents in an invisible folder >(on the Mac platform) that the user can not get see. This Temporary Items >folder is flushed when the machine is restarted. Quite a problem in my mind. >Prior to the latest version, these documents created at the desktop, were >visible, and could be dealt with as needed. > > > >> And Acrobat 4 does just that. The installation of Acrobat 4 creates >> a printer instance that effectively does exactly what Distiller Assistant >> did, but much more dependably. What problem do you see with it? Mac discussion: The idea, though, is that with this automated process, the PostScript file is an intermediate work file, the specifics of which are effectively irrelevant to the end user. For "critical" applications in which you have a need to either retain (or G-d forbid, actually edit) the intermediate PostScript, it would be more consistent to use virtual printer to create PostScript 3 output to a specific location and then manually distill that (or automatically via watched folders). The overall idea was to automate as much as possible without bothering users with intermediate results of actual use to a miniscule group of users. Again, between the Distiller's watched folder capability and the driver's virtual printer capability, you should be able to achieve what you want, retaining the PostScript intermediate file. - Dov _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 27-Apr-1999 22:45:40-GMT,3016;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id QAA22213 for ; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 16:45:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA08375; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 17:41:38 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 27 Apr 1999 17:38:08 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA08140; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 17:38:05 -0500 X-Sender: jhbauer@pop3.akula.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <000301be90b6$7256eea0$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> References: <199904271327.IAA23926@everglades.binc.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 18:38:07 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Jonathan Bauer Subject: [PDF] Distiller 4 vs. 3 file size mystery (mac) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> I have a framemaker template that I use repeatedly something simple: a letter and a fax cover page. Using Distiller 3.02 a two page document (one page letter plus fax cover) weighs in at about 76k (9 fonts, all type 1, embedded subsets, according to font info, encoding "custom"). Using the identical framemaker templates a two page letter using Distiller 4.0 through laserwriter 8.6 weighs in at about 330k! In distiller 4, according to font info, all fonts are type 1, embedded subset, but now encoding says "windows" for two thirds of the fonts, "macroman" for a couple of fonts, and "custom for a couple of fonts. Using Distiller 4.0 via AdobePS (which ever is installed with the Acrobat 4 install) same result as with laserwriter 8.6 Using PDFWriter 4.0 the identical file weighs in at a mere 50k. Under "font info" everything is the same, *except* encoding for all fonts is "MacRoman." Some files end up with reasonable file sizes, others (such as the above) do not. Specs: Macintosh system 8.5.1; PowerMac 9600/G3 300 128 Mbytes RAM. Distiller 4 on default "PrintOptimized." Distiller 3 was left at default except for set to subset under 99%. Incidentally, I have had this problem with one or two non-framemaker files, so I do not believe it is related to framemaker. Any suggestions how to diagnose this symptom? I would rather not have to use PDFWriter. TIA, Jonathan mailto:jhbauer@akula.com _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 27-Apr-1999 23:56:54-GMT,2605;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id RAA24067 for ; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 17:56:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA12817; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 18:51:11 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 27 Apr 1999 18:46:56 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA12413; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 18:46:55 -0500 X-Sender: prodok@pop.eunet.ch Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 01:06:22 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Max Wyss Subject: Re: [PDF] buttons and actions Cc: gertzse@stream.mcs.muohio.edu Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Susan, three possibilities (there may be more): a) create the button on the target page and copy or duplicate it to the pages where it should be. b) use named destinations c) use a JavaScript which brings you to the desired pagenumber. Hope, this can help. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch WWW: http://www.prodok.ch/prodok [ Bridging the Knowledge Gap ] ______________________ >I want to attach a "go to view" command to a button to make it go to page 2 >(table of contents) each time. I can get to the selection of "go to view" >as an action, but at that point Acrobat won't let you go to a new page to >set the action like you can for a link. I want to use a button rather than >a link so that I can copy it from page to page and also use "mouse over" to >change its appearance. > > >Thanks for all help! >____________________________________________________________________________ > Susan Gertz _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 28-Apr-1999 0:02:24-GMT,2801;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id SAA24211 for ; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 18:02:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA12818; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 18:51:11 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 27 Apr 1999 18:47:03 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA12467; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 18:47:01 -0500 X-Sender: prodok@pop.eunet.ch Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <000c01be8fbb$d15c5c60$e4c512c2@PC312.tim.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 00:54:03 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Max Wyss Subject: Re: [PDF] Save, save as... Cc: "Martin Kjellqvist" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Martin, As far as I know, there is no way to disable that prompt. When a PDF document is saved, the modifications are added at the end of the document and some internal tables are simply updated. The no longer used chunks of the document are still in the file. With Save as, the document is created again, and all the obsolete objects are discarded. Therefore it is a very good idea to occasionally use the Save as to rejuvenate a document. Hope, this can help. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch WWW: http://www.prodok.ch/prodok [ Bridging the Knowledge Gap ] ______________________ >Hey > >Is there any way to disable the prompt that comes up every 10th time you >save a document? > >It says something like "if you use 'save as' you will reduse the file size >... etc" > >Why does the file size get bigger every time you save the same document?? > >I am trying to send a mail with attachment (PDF doc) and need to automize >the "save" function ,in acrobat, >(after having imported FDF data) so that the attachement contains the latest >information. > >look forward to suggestions > >/Martin _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 28-Apr-1999 0:17:51-GMT,3591;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id SAA24594 for ; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 18:17:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA14531; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 19:15:20 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 27 Apr 1999 19:12:39 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA14341; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 19:12:38 -0500 X-Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated X-Division: Core Technologies X-Department: Product Interoperability Analysis X-URL: Message-Id: <4.1.19990427170947.009d97a0@mail-303> X-Sender: isaacs@mail-303 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 17:11:16 -0700 To: Jonathan Bauer From: Dov Isaacs Subject: Re: [PDF] Distiller 4 vs. 3 file size mystery (mac) Cc: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com In-Reply-To: References: <000301be90b6$7256eea0$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> <199904271327.IAA23926@everglades.binc.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> I would look at the Distiller's job options being used. You should be compressing text and line art as well as images. Are your settings the same or comparable to those you used with Distiller 3.02? - Dov At 4/27/99 04:38 PM , Jonathan Bauer wrote: >I have a framemaker template that I use repeatedly something simple: a >letter and a fax cover page. Using Distiller 3.02 a two page document (one >page letter plus fax cover) weighs in at about 76k (9 fonts, all type 1, >embedded subsets, according to font info, encoding "custom"). > >Using the identical framemaker templates a two page letter using Distiller >4.0 through laserwriter 8.6 weighs in at about 330k! In distiller 4, >according to font info, all fonts are type 1, embedded subset, but now >encoding says "windows" for two thirds of the fonts, "macroman" for a >couple of fonts, and "custom for a couple of fonts. > >Using Distiller 4.0 via AdobePS (which ever is installed with the Acrobat 4 >install) same result as with laserwriter 8.6 > >Using PDFWriter 4.0 the identical file weighs in at a mere 50k. Under "font >info" everything is the same, *except* encoding for all fonts is "MacRoman." > >Some files end up with reasonable file sizes, others (such as the above) >do not. > >Specs: Macintosh system 8.5.1; PowerMac 9600/G3 300 128 Mbytes RAM. >Distiller 4 on default "PrintOptimized." Distiller 3 was left at default >except for set to subset under 99%. > >Incidentally, I have had this problem with one or two non-framemaker files, >so I do not believe it is related to framemaker. > >Any suggestions how to diagnose this symptom? I would rather not have to >use PDFWriter. > >TIA, > >Jonathan > >mailto:jhbauer@akula.com _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 28-Apr-1999 0:33:22-GMT,3800;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id SAA25004 for ; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 18:33:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA15327; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 19:28:00 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 27 Apr 1999 19:25:22 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA15133; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 19:25:21 -0500 From: "James Cheng" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Sorting image files by pixel dimension Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 17:26:12 -0700 Message-ID: <000001be9044$8e0a2d00$0201a8c0@p266> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19990427111804.00975ec0@altair.herts.ac.uk> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Mr Tanner, I suggest you look for through the PDF list archives for my message on LibTiff, dated 4/30/98. It is in regards to a public domain C library for handling tiff files. Alternately, if you are on a Unix system, the libtiff utilities may have the functionality you need. James Cheng > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com [mailto:owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com]On > Behalf Of Simon Tanner > Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 1999 3:18 AM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: [PDF] Sorting image files by pixel dimension > > > > <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> > <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> > > Hi, > > Does anyone know of an automated way to sort image files by their pixel > dimensions? I want to be able to separate those files which are > wider than > their height (generally landscape like) from those which are higher than > they are wide (generally portrait like). > > The images are all varying pixel dimensions, and may be in colour, B&W or > greyscale. They are coming from a source where I cannot control the > delivery/scanning so they are all mixed up together. > > I need to be able to process the files to standardised pixel dimensions > based on the longest dimension (either height or width). This process is > automated so I want to be able to feed it automatically as well. > > Any suggestions would be welcome. > > Simon > ======================================================================= > Simon Tanner Email: S.G.Tanner@herts.ac.uk > Digitisation Consultant (HEDS) Phone: 01707 286078 > Higher Education Digitisation Service Fax: 01707 286079 > University of Hertfordshire Web: http://heds.herts.ac.uk > > _____________________________________________________________ > > * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * > Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM > < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > > > _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 28-Apr-1999 3:37:33-GMT,2852;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id VAA29830 for ; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 21:37:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA27814; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 22:30:33 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 27 Apr 1999 22:26:55 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA27521; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 22:26:52 -0500 Message-Id: <199904280326.UAA06000@dodo.prod.itd.earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 20:23:13 -0700 Subject: [PDF] 2 Troubleshooting Tips - Installing PDFMarks and Closing Office programs From: "C. Scott Miller" To: PDF Zone Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> I figured I should document this somewhere: TIP 1 - If PDFMarks macro doesn't show up in Word - When installing the new Acrobat 4 (on Windows), it will automatically insert the PDFmark.dot file in your MSOffice/Office/STARTUP directory. However, if the macro does not appear either on your toolbar or in your File menu then there is a good chance that your program does not know where your startup macros are. If that is the case (as it was on my pre-installed Dell laptop) the cure is to go to the Tools menu and click Options.../File Locations. If the Startup File Type does not designate a location then select and Modify by steering it to your STARTUP directory. TIP 2 - Correctly Exiting Microsoft Office products - Dell has just started directing their technical staff to warn people NOT to close Microsoft Office products with the "X" box in the upper right hand corner - I assume that means all Windows platforms. In my case, I did have the habit of closing all of my programs that way. Unfortunately, once it froze my computer and corrupted Word. -- HTH, C. Scott Miller PDF R_e_s_e_a_r_c_h__C_o_m_p_a_n_i_o_n A Designer's Guide to Adobe's Portable Document Format http://www.performancegraphics.com _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 28-Apr-1999 13:15:51-GMT,1904;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id HAA13425 for ; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 07:15:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA28023; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 08:06:09 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 28 Apr 1999 07:57:18 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA27297; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 07:57:17 -0500 Message-Id: <199904281257.HAA03933@fisherrose-bh.frco.com> Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 7:47 -0600 From: "Ron Riley" To: "pdf@lists.pdfzone.com" Cc: "Ron Riley" Subject: [PDF] Errors when Cataloging Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> I'm attempting to index a collection of PDF files. When I run Catalog it reports errors in several of the files and stops processing them. The errors are of the form: filename: Page 12 had an error. When I look at the files in Exchange I don't see anything wrong. Any ideas how to fix? Or at least find out what's wrong? I'm using Acrobat 3, Windows NT. Thanks, Ron Riley rriley@tcmail.frco.com _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 28-Apr-1999 15:37:13-GMT,2223;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id JAA17608 for ; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 09:37:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA07811; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 10:31:05 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 28 Apr 1999 10:28:55 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA07599; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 10:28:54 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990428113044.00988b30@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 11:30:44 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] 2 Troubleshooting Tips - Installing PDFMarks and Closing Office programs In-Reply-To: <199904280326.UAA06000@dodo.prod.itd.earthlink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> >TIP 2 - Correctly Exiting Microsoft Office products - > >Dell has just started directing their technical staff to warn people NOT to >close Microsoft Office products with the "X" box in the upper right hand >corner - I assume that means all Windows platforms. > Do they say why? I don't normally do this, but would be interested to hear why they recommend otherwise. Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 28-Apr-1999 16:32:59-GMT,2095;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id KAA19447 for ; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 10:32:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA13611; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 11:26:37 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 28 Apr 1999 11:25:19 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA13479; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 11:25:16 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.3.16.19990429025213.2e9fc2ba@mail.cbn.net.id> X-Sender: cell@mail.cbn.net.id X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (16) Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 02:52:13 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: "Marcello S." Subject: [PDF] Sites using PDF for legal knowledge management? In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.19990423132608.00947100@stonewall.george.com> References: <199904231731.TAA04743@mail.mbi-berlin.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> list-members, I am currently conducting a feasibility study on legal knowledge management/document management. Are there any WWW sites with extensive use of PDF for this matter? Or maybe there are some firm/company that can share their use of PDF for legal documents?? Thank you for any kind of help, Regards, Marcello S. cell@cbn.net.id ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 28-Apr-1999 19:18:52-GMT,1981;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id NAA24740 for ; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 13:18:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA29876; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 14:14:29 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 28 Apr 1999 14:12:28 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA29698; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 14:12:27 -0500 Message-Id: <199904281912.MAA24154@dodo.prod.itd.earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 12:08:30 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] 2 Troubleshooting Tips - Installing PDFMarks and Closing Office programs From: "C. Scott Miller" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> > Do they say why? I don't normally do this, but would be interested to hear > why they recommend otherwise. Bombs like the one I experienced, probably. No explanation why it's a bad idea though. -- HTH, C. Scott Miller PDF R_e_s_e_a_r_c_h__C_o_m_p_a_n_i_o_n A Designer's Guide to Adobe's Portable Document Format http://www.performancegraphics.com _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 28-Apr-1999 19:50:07-GMT,3180;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id NAA25713 for ; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 13:50:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA00062; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 14:45:42 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 28 Apr 1999 14:44:08 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA32574; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 14:44:05 -0500 Message-id: Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 11:49:25 +0100 Subject: [PDF] Acrobat Compatibility Problems with TrueType To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: werner@rapidgraphics.com (Steve Werner) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> I ran into an interesting compatibility problem between Acrobat 4 and Acrobat 3 regarding Macintosh TrueType fonts. Originally, I created a PDF file for a client using Acrobat Distiller 3 for the Macintosh. The document it was created from was built in QuarkXPress and used Type 1 Palatino as well as TrueType Arial MT, Arial MT Italic, Arial MT Bold and Arial MT Bold Italic. I created a PostScript file and embedded all fonts. In Distiller 3, I chose to Embed All Fonts and subset at 99%. This worked fine when viewed and printed on either Mac or PC. The job came back about a month later because of copy changes, and the PDF needed to be recreated. This time I used Acrobat Distiller 4. I set Compatibility as Acrobat 3. I chose to Embed All Fonts and subsetted at 100%. When I previewed it and printed it on both Mac and PC using Acrobat 4, the Arial font worked fine. I passed the job to the client. Unfortunately, I forgot to open it in Acrobat 3. I assumed saving with Acrobat 3 compatibility would be sufficient, but it was not. The client opened the file in Acrobat 3 on the Mac, and when they got to a page with an Arial font they got the message, "Some data in the embedded font 'PMFPCI + ArialMT' was invalid. This has been corrected, but some characters may not display and print correctly." When viewed some characters disappeared. When printed (depending on the printer driver), either it printed gibberish or gave a printing error. Apparently, the way the TrueType fonts are encoded has changed in Acrobat 4. Even saving with Acrobat 3 compatibility doesn't change this. So don't throw away your copy of Distiller 3.0; I successfully created the PDF using that version. Best, Steve Werner Training Manager Rapid Graphics San Francisco, CA _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 28-Apr-1999 20:07:49-GMT,4154;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id OAA26236 for ; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 14:07:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA01794; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 15:04:11 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 28 Apr 1999 15:02:49 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA01588; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 15:02:48 -0500 Message-ID: <002801be91b2$03358d40$466564c8@ntplx.net> From: "Michael Abrahamson" To: "PDF List" Subject: [PDF] Acrobat 4 Installation woes Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 16:02:15 -0400 Organization: Liturgical Publications MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0025_01BE9190.7C09FCA0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0025_01BE9190.7C09FCA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi gang, I finally received my Acrobat 4 full version and am having a problem = with the install. First of all, it says everywhere I read that the = PDFMaker macros are supposed to be automatically installed. Well, = running a typical installation doesn't live up to this statement. I = just tried running a custom install and selecting the PDFMaker files for = install and still nothing. Is there something wrong with my disk> = Might there be a conflict in my system that isn't allowing Acrobat to = install these specific files? I can browse the = "C:\Program.........\Acrobat 4.0\Macros" folder and all I see under the = Office 97 folder is distmon.dll. There are no macro files for Word, = PowerPoint, etc. What am I missing? Mike Abrahamson Liturgical Publications ------=_NextPart_000_0025_01BE9190.7C09FCA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi gang,
 
I finally received my Acrobat 4 full version and am = having a=20 problem with the install.  First of all, it says everywhere I read = that the=20 PDFMaker macros are supposed to be automatically installed.  Well, = running=20 a typical installation doesn't live up to this statement.  I just = tried=20 running a custom install and selecting the PDFMaker files for install = and still=20 nothing.  Is there something wrong with my disk>  Might = there be a=20 conflict in my system that isn't allowing Acrobat to install these = specific=20 files?  I can browse the "C:\Program.........\Acrobat 4.0\Macros" = folder=20 and all I see under the Office 97 folder is distmon.dll.  There are = no=20 macro files for Word, PowerPoint, etc.  What am I = missing?
 
Mike Abrahamson
Liturgical Publications
------=_NextPart_000_0025_01BE9190.7C09FCA0-- _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 28-Apr-1999 20:45:09-GMT,5048;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id OAA27442 for ; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 14:45:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA05085; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 15:39:54 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 28 Apr 1999 15:38:09 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA04931; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 15:38:08 -0500 Message-ID: From: Cynthia Leslie To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Acrobat Compatibility Problems with TrueType Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 16:37:59 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2559.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> One of my colleagues discovered a font-related bug in Acrobat 4.0 last week. He was having trouble working with a PDF that contained Kanji fonts. He experimented with various things but had no luck. In connection with something else entirely, he went to visit one of our electronic-pub service bureaus. This service bureau recently began using Acrobat 4.0. My colleague was sitting with one of the technical people there while he was working in Acrobat on a PDF file, and he noticed that when this person did a "Save as" he un-checked the "Optimize" checkbox. My colleague asked him why he had cleared the "Optimize" checkbox, and the other person told him, "I've noticed that the fonts sometimes get messed up if I Optimize." My colleague came back to the office and did a "Save as" on the Kanji PDF, first unchecking the "Optimize" checkbox (which, by the way, is checked by default). The problems disappeared! So the bottom line seems to be that optimization causes font problems (Kanji & non-Kanji). Maybe this has something to do with the problem that Werner described below. - Cynthia Leslie -----Original Message----- From: werner@rapidgraphics.com [mailto:werner@rapidgraphics.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 1999 6:49 AM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Acrobat Compatibility Problems with TrueType <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> I ran into an interesting compatibility problem between Acrobat 4 and Acrobat 3 regarding Macintosh TrueType fonts. Originally, I created a PDF file for a client using Acrobat Distiller 3 for the Macintosh. The document it was created from was built in QuarkXPress and used Type 1 Palatino as well as TrueType Arial MT, Arial MT Italic, Arial MT Bold and Arial MT Bold Italic. I created a PostScript file and embedded all fonts. In Distiller 3, I chose to Embed All Fonts and subset at 99%. This worked fine when viewed and printed on either Mac or PC. The job came back about a month later because of copy changes, and the PDF needed to be recreated. This time I used Acrobat Distiller 4. I set Compatibility as Acrobat 3. I chose to Embed All Fonts and subsetted at 100%. When I previewed it and printed it on both Mac and PC using Acrobat 4, the Arial font worked fine. I passed the job to the client. Unfortunately, I forgot to open it in Acrobat 3. I assumed saving with Acrobat 3 compatibility would be sufficient, but it was not. The client opened the file in Acrobat 3 on the Mac, and when they got to a page with an Arial font they got the message, "Some data in the embedded font 'PMFPCI + ArialMT' was invalid. This has been corrected, but some characters may not display and print correctly." When viewed some characters disappeared. When printed (depending on the printer driver), either it printed gibberish or gave a printing error. Apparently, the way the TrueType fonts are encoded has changed in Acrobat 4. Even saving with Acrobat 3 compatibility doesn't change this. So don't throw away your copy of Distiller 3.0; I successfully created the PDF using that version. Best, Steve Werner Training Manager Rapid Graphics San Francisco, CA _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 28-Apr-1999 20:50:31-GMT,3362;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id OAA27616 for ; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 14:50:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA05812; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 15:46:48 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 28 Apr 1999 15:45:35 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA05679; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 15:45:33 -0500 Message-ID: From: Cynthia Leslie To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Acrobat 4 Installation woes Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 16:45:25 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2559.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Yesterday, C. Scott Miller [ miller@performancegraphics.com ] posted a message on this list that included the tip below. Perhaps the problem that he described with the PDFMarks marcro also occurs with the PDFMaker macro. If so, it's likely that you can fix the problem the same way he did. - Cynthia Leslie TIP 1 - If PDFMarks macro doesn't show up in Word - When installing the new Acrobat 4 (on Windows), it will automatically insert the PDFmark.dot file in your MSOffice/Office/STARTUP directory. However, if the macro does not appear either on your toolbar or in your File menu then there is a good chance that your program does not know where your startup macros are. If that is the case (as it was on my pre-installed Dell laptop) the cure is to go to the Tools menu and click Options.../File Locations. If the Startup File Type does not designate a location then select and Modify by steering it to your STARTUP directory. On 4/28/1999 at 4:02 PM Michael Abrahamson wrote: << Hi gang, I finally received my Acrobat 4 full version and am having a problem with the install. First of all, it says everywhere I read that the PDFMaker macros are supposed to be automatically installed. Well, running a typical installation doesn't live up to this statement. I just tried running a custom install and selecting the PDFMaker files for install and still nothing. Is there something wrong with my disk> Might there be a conflict in my system that isn't allowing Acrobat to install these specific files? I can browse the "C:\Program.........\Acrobat 4.0\Macros" folder and all I see under the Office 97 folder is distmon.dll. There are no macro files for Word, PowerPoint, etc. What am I missing? >> Mike Abrahamson Liturgical Publications _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 28-Apr-1999 21:23:26-GMT,5332;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id PAA28657 for ; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 15:23:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA08925; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 16:18:48 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 28 Apr 1999 16:17:31 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA08782; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 16:17:30 -0500 Message-ID: <004e01be91bc$974df3a0$466564c8@ntplx.net> From: "Michael Abrahamson" To: References: Subject: Re: [PDF] Acrobat 4 Installation woes Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 17:17:58 -0400 Organization: Liturgical Publications MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Thanks for the reference, Cynthia. I checked my file locations in Word and low and behold the correct startup folder was listed... so apparently that isn't going to solve my problem. :( Might there have been a problem with my Acro 3 uninstallation that caused the macros to not be included with the Acro 4 install? I'm also having a problem with trying to print to PDF using the Distiller printer in Word 6. When I go to select the printer, because the path to the port is so (unbelievably) long, there are actually 4 different Distiller printers to choose from... each with its own piece of the path beside it. it is not possible to consolidate the selection so that I can actually choose the Distiller printer. We have many clients who still use Word 6 and we are hoping to provide them with a PDF option to transmit their files to us. Why is this path so complex (first question) and more importantly, how do I enable printing to the Distiller printer with such a long path name? Any help is greatly appreciated. Mike Abrahamson Liturgical Publications ----- Original Message ----- From: Cynthia Leslie To: Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 1999 4:45 PM Subject: RE: [PDF] Acrobat 4 Installation woes > > <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> > <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> > > Yesterday, C. Scott Miller [ miller@performancegraphics.com > ] posted a message on this list that > included the tip below. Perhaps the problem that he described with the > PDFMarks marcro also occurs with the PDFMaker macro. If so, it's likely that > you can fix the problem the same way he did. > > - Cynthia Leslie > > > > TIP 1 - If PDFMarks macro doesn't show up in Word - When installing the new > Acrobat 4 (on Windows), it will automatically insert > > the PDFmark.dot file in your MSOffice/Office/STARTUP directory. However, if > > the macro does not appear either on your toolbar or in your File menu then > > there is a good chance that your program does not know where your startup > > macros are. If that is the case (as it was on my pre-installed Dell laptop) > > the cure is to go to the Tools menu and click Options.../File Locations. If > > the Startup File Type does not designate a location then select and Modify > > by steering it to your STARTUP directory. > > > > On 4/28/1999 at 4:02 PM Michael Abrahamson wrote: > > > << Hi gang, > > I finally received my Acrobat 4 full version and am having a problem with > the install. First of all, it says everywhere I read that the PDFMaker > macros are supposed to be automatically installed. Well, running a typical > installation doesn't live up to this statement. I just tried running a > custom install and selecting the PDFMaker files for install and still > nothing. Is there something wrong with my disk> Might there be a conflict > in my system that isn't allowing Acrobat to install these specific files? I > can browse the "C:\Program.........\Acrobat 4.0\Macros" folder and all I see > under the Office 97 folder is distmon.dll. There are no macro files for > Word, PowerPoint, etc. What am I missing? >> > > Mike Abrahamson > Liturgical Publications > > > _____________________________________________________________ > > * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * > Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM > < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > > > _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 28-Apr-1999 21:34:02-GMT,2346;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id PAA29014 for ; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 15:34:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA09802; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 16:30:30 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 28 Apr 1999 16:28:49 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA09646; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 16:28:48 -0500 X-Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated X-Division: Core Technologies X-Department: Product Interoperability Analysis X-URL: Message-Id: <4.1.19990428142643.009d2820@mail-303> X-Sender: isaacs@mail-303 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 14:27:58 -0700 To: "Michael Abrahamson" From: Dov Isaacs Subject: Re: [PDF] Acrobat 4 Installation woes Cc: In-Reply-To: <004e01be91bc$974df3a0$466564c8@ntplx.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> At 4/28/99 02:17 PM , Michael Abrahamson wrote: >Thanks for the reference, Cynthia. I checked my file locations in Word and >low and behold the correct startup folder was listed... so apparently that >isn't going to solve my problem. :( > >Might there have been a problem with my Acro 3 uninstallation that caused >the macros to not be included with the Acro 4 install? If you try to uninstall Acrobat 3 AFTER installing Acrobat 4, absolutely all bets are off! - Dov _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 28-Apr-1999 21:34:46-GMT,1963;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id PAA29071 for ; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 15:34:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA10027; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 16:32:04 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 28 Apr 1999 16:30:55 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA09853; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 16:30:54 -0500 Message-id: Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 13:36:19 +0100 Subject: Re: RE: [PDF] Acrobat Compatibility Problems with TrueType To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Cc: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: werner@rapidgraphics.com (Steve Werner) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> pdf@lists.pdfzone.com writes: >My colleague came back to the office and did a "Save as" on the Kanji PDF, >first unchecking the "Optimize" checkbox (which, by the way, is checked by >default). The problems disappeared! > >So the bottom line seems to be that optimization causes font problems >(Kanji >& non-Kanji). > >Maybe this has something to do with the problem that Werner described >below. I just did a test with Optimize turned off, and it didn't solve the problem with Mac TrueType fonts. Best, Steve _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 29-Apr-1999 8:00:26-GMT,1762;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id CAA14540 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 02:00:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA14082; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 02:50:24 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 29 Apr 1999 02:47:54 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA13935; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 02:47:52 -0500 Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 08:47:44 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: <199904290747.IAA27632@gilliam.vip.uk.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail and News for Macintosh - 1.1 (34) Subject: [PDF] Any PDF authors in NW England? From: john hamlett To: PDF Zone ACROBAT Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Sorry to chew up bandwidth with this but are there any developers out there in NW England? Based near Lancaster I have a project on that could do with an additional skilled pair of hands. Please mail me direct. john@lunar.co.uk _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 29-Apr-1999 14:10:00-GMT,3802;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id IAA22713 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 08:09:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA04754; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 09:00:35 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 29 Apr 1999 08:52:57 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA03924; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 08:52:55 -0500 Message-ID: <000b01be9247$d3fa92a0$466564c8@ntplx.net> From: "Michael Abrahamson" To: References: <4.1.19990428142643.009d2820@mail-303> Subject: Re: [PDF] Acrobat 4 Installation woes Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 09:54:40 -0400 Organization: Liturgical Publications MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> I uninstalled Acrobat 3 BEFORE installing Acrobat 4. I always try to RTFM! :) I have attempted numerous installations of Acrobat 4 since then, all without success. I certainly hope this is an isolated occurrence. Dov - do you have any info on the extremely long path name for Distiller 4's printer port? Is there any way I can force older programs such as Word 6 to accept this port and not give me 4 different Distiller printers each with their own piece of the path to choose from? Obviously there are some big problems with Acrobat 4 that are of major concern to me. I am on the verge of finalizing a proposal for my company to license a large number of Acrobat packages and cannot willfully accept these shortcomings in Acro 4. As buggy as Acro 3 was, at least it installed correctly!! Mike Abrahamson Liturgical Publications ----- Original Message ----- From: Dov Isaacs To: Michael Abrahamson Cc: Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 1999 5:27 PM Subject: Re: [PDF] Acrobat 4 Installation woes > > <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> > <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> > > At 4/28/99 02:17 PM , Michael Abrahamson wrote: > >Thanks for the reference, Cynthia. I checked my file locations in Word and > >low and behold the correct startup folder was listed... so apparently that > >isn't going to solve my problem. :( > > > >Might there have been a problem with my Acro 3 uninstallation that caused > >the macros to not be included with the Acro 4 install? > > If you try to uninstall Acrobat 3 AFTER installing Acrobat 4, absolutely > all bets are off! > > - Dov > > _____________________________________________________________ > > * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * > Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM > < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > > > _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 29-Apr-1999 15:28:21-GMT,3350;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id JAA25137 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 09:28:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA13692; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 10:24:25 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 29 Apr 1999 10:23:19 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA13564; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 10:23:17 -0500 Message-Id: <199904291523.IAA00678@wren.prod.itd.earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 08:02:48 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Acrobat 4 Installation woes From: "C. Scott Miller" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> > After reading all of the postings about > installation, font, and compatibility problems with Acrobat 4, I'm seriously > thinking about sticking with Acrobat 3... Better the devil you know. My opinion only - I would suggest a dual path. Produce in Acrobat 3 for now and phase in Acrobat 4 after some development work - the rate of changeover should depend upon your publishing needs. It will be worth your investment of time since the rapid evolution of digital publishing and its components (platforms, OSs, software, media types, plug-ins) are all placing new demands upon PDF and Acrobat - some of which are solved by Acrobat 4. In other words, don't just look at the complaints listed - look at the number of problems addressed by the new version - Truetype font compliance, new pre-press options, workgroup annotations, web capturing, bookmarking, thumbnails, pdfmaker, emailing, etc. Some of the installation problems you are seeing are a consequence of the existing operating system configuration of the user and not a problem with Acrobat - that was true with my "installation woes." Incidentally, when posting problems I think it is important for people to state very clearly what operating system they are working on - Windows NT is harder to install for virtually anything, for example, so I wouldn't be surprised if Acrobat was harder to deinstall and then install on it. I do not consider the innovations in 4.0 to be superficial. They are deep and will impact the way in-house publishing groups will workgroup with their clients and comply with pre-press printer/media demands in the future . -- HTH, C. Scott Miller PDF R_e_s_e_a_r_c_h__C_o_m_p_a_n_i_o_n A Designer's Guide to Adobe's Portable Document Format http://www.performancegraphics.com _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 29-Apr-1999 16:00:26-GMT,4856;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id KAA26170 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 10:00:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA17069; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 10:54:43 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 29 Apr 1999 10:53:17 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA16833; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 10:53:15 -0500 X-Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated X-Division: Core Technologies X-Department: Product Interoperability Analysis X-URL: Message-Id: <4.1.19990429084231.009e48d0@mail-303> X-Sender: isaacs@mail-303 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 08:52:18 -0700 To: "Michael Abrahamson" From: Dov Isaacs Subject: Re: [PDF] Acrobat 4 Installation woes Cc: In-Reply-To: <000b01be9247$d3fa92a0$466564c8@ntplx.net> References: <4.1.19990428142643.009d2820@mail-303> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Michael, With Acrobat 4 on Windows, you can always create a new "port" for the Acrobat Printer from within the driver and then delete the old ones. Thus, your port can be "C:\TEMP" if you want. I used "D:\Documents" which corresponds to the "My Documents" directory on my system. That eliminates the overly long names you have encountered. WRT installation problems, I personally have not seen what you have in terms of the macros not installing or not installing correctly. I am not Acrobat QA or Acrobat Tech Support, but in the beta and release processes for Acrobat 4, I probably needed to install, uninstall, reinstall combinations of Acrobat 3.02 and Acrobat 4 dozens of times. Each install of Acrobat 4 did properly link up with my Microsoft Office'97 on each of my systems. Have you seen the problem on one system or multiple systems? I believe that the Acrobat installer looks in the registry for MS Office info. Perhaps some references for MS Office in your registry are corrupted or missing? One of the ways of testing that theory would be to (gasp!) uninstall Acrobat 4, uninstall MS Office, reinstall MS Office (complete with all the reboots it asks for), and then reinstall Acrobat 4. That is the best I can do for a remote troubleshoot session! (8-)> - Dov At 4/29/99 06:54 AM , Michael Abrahamson wrote: >I uninstalled Acrobat 3 BEFORE installing Acrobat 4. I always try to RTFM! >:) I have attempted numerous installations of Acrobat 4 since then, all >without success. I certainly hope this is an isolated occurrence. > >Dov - do you have any info on the extremely long path name for Distiller 4's >printer port? Is there any way I can force older programs such as Word 6 to >accept this port and not give me 4 different Distiller printers each with >their own piece of the path to choose from? Obviously there are some big >problems with Acrobat 4 that are of major concern to me. I am on the verge >of finalizing a proposal for my company to license a large number of Acrobat >packages and cannot willfully accept these shortcomings in Acro 4. As buggy >as Acro 3 was, at least it installed correctly!! > >Mike Abrahamson >Liturgical Publications >----- Original Message ----- >From: Dov Isaacs >To: Michael Abrahamson >Cc: >Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 1999 5:27 PM >Subject: Re: [PDF] Acrobat 4 Installation woes > > >> At 4/28/99 02:17 PM , Michael Abrahamson wrote: >> >Thanks for the reference, Cynthia. I checked my file locations in Word >and >> >low and behold the correct startup folder was listed... so apparently >that >> >isn't going to solve my problem. :( >> > >> >Might there have been a problem with my Acro 3 uninstallation that caused >> >the macros to not be included with the Acro 4 install? >> >> If you try to uninstall Acrobat 3 AFTER installing Acrobat 4, absolutely >> all bets are off! >> >> - Dov _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 29-Apr-1999 16:00:53-GMT,2126;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id KAA26189 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 10:00:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA17250; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 10:55:59 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 29 Apr 1999 10:54:54 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA17088; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 10:54:53 -0500 Message-ID: <37287E8A.6DBB@pit-magnus.com> Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 11:45:14 -0400 From: "Mike Galloway" Organization: PROGERSSIVE INFORMATION TECHNOLOGIES X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] System error using the form tool References: <199904291523.IAA00678@wren.prod.itd.earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Using the form tool I have created a button that I have assigned to execute a menue item. When you click on the button it should exit and close the Acrobat program. This works on one of the four computers that I tested the action on. On the other three machines (1 pc and 2 mac's) I get protection error or type 1 error message. The machine that it works on is a pc with Acrobat 4.0. The other machines are running 3.2. Any suggestions? Thanks Mike Galloway Progressive Information Technologies _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 29-Apr-1999 16:01:18-GMT,1943;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id KAA26203 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 10:01:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA17537; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 10:58:25 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 29 Apr 1999 10:57:19 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA17431; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 10:57:18 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Crooks,Steve" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] IFilter + 4.0 Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 10:57:12 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> I noticed that my 4.0 documents are not being indexed correctly by IIS Index Server with the PDF IFilter 1.1 Beta from Adobe. I had no problems with 3.1 documents. Anybody else seeing this? Anybody know anything about an updated PDF IFilter? -- --Steve Crooks Steve@Crooks.net PGP key: http://www.crooks.net/SteveCrooks.asc PGP fingerprint: C537 4A0A 5B22 1498 8959 3D67 0688 9856 55ED 6349 PGP: http://www.nai.com/products/security/pgpfreeware.asp _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 29-Apr-1999 14:21:27-GMT,2254;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id IAA23083 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 08:21:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA06588; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 09:17:12 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 29 Apr 1999 09:14:30 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA06250; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 09:14:28 -0500 From: LynneA@Exabyte.COM Message-ID: To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] Acrobat 4 Installation woes Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 08:13:54 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> I currently have two copies of Acrobat 4 on order to evaluate whether to upgrade our processes to use it (they've been on order for a LONG while... but that's a different question). After reading all of the postings about installation, font, and compatibility problems with Acrobat 4, I'm seriously thinking about sticking with Acrobat 3... Better the devil you know. Why is it that Adobe can't seem to get their updates right any more? They add lots of bells and whistles of questionable use to "the masses" and break the basic functionality we all rely on. I've encountered similar problems when upgrading FrameMaker. I guess it's one way to save me (and my employer) money... Just skip the upgrades! Lynne Avery Sr. Technical Writer Exabyte Corporation _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 29-Apr-1999 15:26:36-GMT,2393;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id JAA25058 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 09:26:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA13169; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 10:19:42 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 29 Apr 1999 10:16:01 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA12716; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 10:15:58 -0500 From: "Jim Cullen" To: Subject: [PDF] Customize Reader Install Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 11:16:53 -0400 Message-ID: <000001be9253$50a6c480$248799d1@oemcomputer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <37255E2B.8CA4D961@reporters.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Is there a way to customize the Acrobat Reader install? The 3.01 version was customizable through its ABCOPY.INI file. The old Blind Copy INI let me create custom CDs with my own plug-ins and made shortcuts to the Main PDF file. The 4.0 Reader doesn't seem to have the equivalent option. I trapped the Reader install in my Windows Temp directory and found some interesting things. There is an "Adobe Installer Internal Configuration File: AdobeIns.ini" that looks very similar to the ABCOPY.INI, but modifying it doesn't have any effect. It looks like it creates a PKG file as part of startup that I assume controls the install. I've checked the Adobe site without success. Any suggestions? _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 29-Apr-1999 16:42:07-GMT,3448;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id KAA27472 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 10:42:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA21563; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 11:32:57 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 29 Apr 1999 11:29:02 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA21092; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 11:28:57 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Distiller printer driver (was: Acrobat 4 Installation woes) Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 17:28:40 +0100 Message-ID: <002f01be925d$57c20720$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990429084231.009e48d0@mail-303> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> > With Acrobat 4 on Windows, you can always create a new "port" for > the Acrobat Printer from within the driver and then delete the old > ones. Thus, your port can be "C:\TEMP" if you want. I used > "D:\Documents" which corresponds to the "My Documents" directory > on my system. That eliminates the overly long names you have > encountered. It may be worth trying to understand what makes the Acrobat printer "tick", so we can better understand what is happening when it stops ticking... My research shows that the "Acrobat Distiller" printer is simply an instance of the ADOBEPS driver, version 4.2.4. I would hope that this is not a special version of AdobePS, so that (for instance) it won't break if a future AdobePS 4.2.5 or 4.3 is installed. (I was hopeful that it would have a whole different driver name, but it seems to be ADOBEPS4.DRV.) This is Windows 9x, NT must be different. I also assume that if someone were to install any EARLIER version of AdobePS, such as 4.1.x, or 4.2.3 or earlier (deliberately or accidentally), that the driver would stop working. (People might install 4.1.x for level 1 support). Presumably there is some "magic", since AdobePS 4.2.4 doesn't make a PDF just because you print to a file port (?). So I am assuming it is any instance installed with ADIST4.PPD which does the magic, and does so because of the presence of ADIST4.DLL (and no doubt some magic registry entries). So any other instances based on ADIST4.PPD will work, and could potentially have other properties. This is all guesswork! I'm really hoping Dov will be able to confirm or deny the details, so we'll be able to deal effectively with people who end up with this all messed up. Aandi _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 29-Apr-1999 16:49:15-GMT,5446;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id KAA27701 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 10:49:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA22859; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 11:46:22 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 29 Apr 1999 11:43:51 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA22664; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 11:43:50 -0500 Message-ID: <004701be925f$8cde9b60$466564c8@ntplx.net> From: "Michael Abrahamson" To: References: <199904291523.IAA00678@wren.prod.itd.earthlink.net> Subject: Re: [PDF] Acrobat 4 Installation woes Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 12:44:29 -0400 Organization: Liturgical Publications MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> I apologize for not providing more information related to my system configuration. I am running Win 95 with 96 RAM. I have not tried the installation on any other machine yet due to time constraints, but I will be attempting that soon to see if my problems are isolated to that one particular system. I applaud Adobe for its visionary approach to the future of electronic document transfer and digital publishing. I would like to see, however, more of a commitment to reliability. After all, what good is a Lamborghini that breaks down every 1/4 mile? I'm sure it looks great in the driveway and is very comfortable to sit in, but you buy it for performance. Forgive the sad attempt at an analogy here, but we buy Acrobat 4 for its performance... not for the suped up features Adobe claims it offers. If millions of Acrobat users who want to upgrade will be forced to do all kinds of maintenance to their system and files just to upgrade then what is the point? Upgrades are supposed to make our life easier. Software is supposed to make our life easier. That is it's sole purpose. It just seems that too many software publishers bury that fact for their own financial interests. Mike Abrahamson Liturgical Publications ----- Original Message ----- From: C. Scott Miller To: Sent: Thursday, April 29, 1999 11:02 AM Subject: Re: [PDF] Acrobat 4 Installation woes > > <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> > <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> > > > After reading all of the postings about > > installation, font, and compatibility problems with Acrobat 4, I'm seriously > > thinking about sticking with Acrobat 3... Better the devil you know. > > My opinion only - > > I would suggest a dual path. Produce in Acrobat 3 for now and phase in > Acrobat 4 after some development work - the rate of changeover should depend > upon your publishing needs. It will be worth your investment of time since > the rapid evolution of digital publishing and its components (platforms, > OSs, software, media types, plug-ins) are all placing new demands upon PDF > and Acrobat - some of which are solved by Acrobat 4. > > In other words, don't just look at the complaints listed - look at the > number of problems addressed by the new version - Truetype font compliance, > new pre-press options, workgroup annotations, web capturing, bookmarking, > thumbnails, pdfmaker, emailing, etc. > > Some of the installation problems you are seeing are a consequence of the > existing operating system configuration of the user and not a problem with > Acrobat - that was true with my "installation woes." Incidentally, when > posting problems I think it is important for people to state very clearly > what operating system they are working on - Windows NT is harder to install > for virtually anything, for example, so I wouldn't be surprised if Acrobat > was harder to deinstall and then install on it. > > I do not consider the innovations in 4.0 to be superficial. They are deep > and will impact the way in-house publishing groups will workgroup with their > clients and comply with pre-press printer/media demands in the future . > > -- > HTH, > C. Scott Miller > > PDF R_e_s_e_a_r_c_h__C_o_m_p_a_n_i_o_n > A Designer's Guide to Adobe's Portable Document Format > http://www.performancegraphics.com > > _____________________________________________________________ > > * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * > Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM > < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > > > _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 29-Apr-1999 16:52:28-GMT,2950;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id KAA27790 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 10:52:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA23316; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 11:49:44 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 29 Apr 1999 11:47:17 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA22987; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 11:47:16 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: gertzse@po.muohio.edu Message-Id: Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 12:49:26 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Susan Gertz Subject: [PDF] advice for multimedia-type development in Acrobat Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> I am working on a project to create a digital companion book to an existing print book that was published about 6 years ago. The companion book will have updated text information as well as many color photos and quicktime movies. We plan to distribute the companion book via CD and perhaps via download from our web site (if file sizes are not prohibitive due to movies). The basic content (including table of contents and index) will be developed on PageMaker and exported to PDF with bookmarks and links. Buttons and movies will be added in Acrobat. So, here's my question: Should we consider developing the digital book in separate PDFs so that the PDF files will be smaller? (The book lends itself to three major sections.) Can one PDF (say an overview) contain links to other PDFs through bookmarks or hyperlinked TOC? If so, can this be automated through PageMaker-created links? Thanks in advance for any thoughts. Many of you have been a great help to me already. Susan ____________________________________________________________________________ Susan Gertz Phone: (513) 727-3389 Manager, Document Production Fax: (513) 727-3223 Center for Chemical Education Miami University Middletown mailto:gertzse@muohio.edu Middletown, OH http://www.muohio.edu/cce/ ____________________________________________________________________________ _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 29-Apr-1999 17:00:50-GMT,1807;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id LAA28084 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 11:00:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA24185; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 11:57:52 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 29 Apr 1999 11:55:03 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA23843; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 11:55:00 -0500 From: Karen_L_Mibus@keybank.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: KEYCORP To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <85256762.0058C113.00@keybank.com> Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 12:11:11 -0400 Subject: Re: [PDF] Acrobat 4 Installation woes Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Scott Miller wrote: "Windows NT is harder to install for virtually anything, for example, so I wouldn't be surprised if Acrobat was harder to deinstall and then install on it." Is the Reader Windows NT version actually different from the Windows 95 version? In other words, is it important to offer both versions? --Karen _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 29-Apr-1999 17:07:04-GMT,5090;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id LAA28302 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 11:07:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA24774; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 12:03:36 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 29 Apr 1999 12:02:26 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA24674; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 12:02:20 -0500 X-Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated X-Division: Core Technologies X-Department: Product Interoperability Analysis X-URL: Message-Id: <4.1.19990429094533.00a1d5f0@mail-303> X-Sender: isaacs@mail-303 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 10:01:23 -0700 To: "Aandi Inston" From: Dov Isaacs Subject: RE: [PDF] Distiller printer driver (was: Acrobat 4 Installation woes) Cc: In-Reply-To: <002f01be925d$57c20720$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> References: <4.1.19990429084231.009e48d0@mail-303> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Did someone use my name in vain? Or perhaps in England? (8-)> The "Acrobat Distiller" printer is actually just an instance of the AdobePS driver that uses the PPD that ships with Acrobat 4, pointed to the special port created for use by "AcroTray." There is no "magic sauce" in the driver. Theoretically, you can use earlier versions of AdobePS (i.e. 4.1 or 4.2.2 or 4.2.3) with Acrobat 4, but due to bug fixes in the driver 4.2.4 is the earliest recommended. AdobePS 4.3 should be posted on the Adobe web site within the next two weeks and that definitively is THE driver to use with Acrobat 4 and Windows'98. It resolves the pre-2015 layout problem as well as final issues related to TrueType font-based text searchability in Acrobat 4. It also fixed the 256 page limit problem of AdobePS 4.2.x. For Windows NT 4, use AdobePS 5.1 Both for Windows'9x and NT, the AdobePS driver passes PostScript along to the special Acrobat port -- that is the "secret." Adist4.dll assists in this process. The "Acrotray" resident background program picks up such print jobs and funnels them to the Distiller after prompting (optionally) for the destination for the PDF file. The Distiller runs in the background with a small icon in the "tray". Acrotray then optionally calls Acrobat 4 to display the resultant PDF file. Again, the driver simply sticks to the business of creating PostScript and queuing a job. No conspiracies; no intrigue! -Dov At 4/29/99 09:28 AM , Aandi Inston wrote: >> With Acrobat 4 on Windows, you can always create a new "port" for >> the Acrobat Printer from within the driver and then delete the old >> ones. Thus, your port can be "C:\TEMP" if you want. I used >> "D:\Documents" which corresponds to the "My Documents" directory >> on my system. That eliminates the overly long names you have >> encountered. > >It may be worth trying to understand what makes the Acrobat printer >"tick", so we can better understand what is happening when it >stops ticking... > >My research shows that the "Acrobat Distiller" printer is simply >an instance of the ADOBEPS driver, version 4.2.4. I would hope that >this is not a special version of AdobePS, so that (for instance) >it won't break if a future AdobePS 4.2.5 or 4.3 is installed. >(I was hopeful that it would have a whole different driver name, >but it seems to be ADOBEPS4.DRV.) This is Windows 9x, NT must be >different. > >I also assume that if someone were to install any EARLIER version >of AdobePS, such as 4.1.x, or 4.2.3 or earlier (deliberately or >accidentally), that the driver would stop working. (People might >install 4.1.x for level 1 support). > >Presumably there is some "magic", since AdobePS 4.2.4 doesn't make >a PDF just because you print to a file port (?). So I am assuming >it is any instance installed with ADIST4.PPD which does the magic, >and does so because of the presence of ADIST4.DLL (and no doubt >some magic registry entries). So any other instances based on >ADIST4.PPD will work, and could potentially have other properties. > >This is all guesswork! I'm really hoping Dov will be able to confirm >or deny the details, so we'll be able to deal effectively with >people who end up with this all messed up. > >Aandi _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 29-Apr-1999 17:11:09-GMT,2130;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id LAA28414 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 11:11:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA25019; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 12:05:51 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 29 Apr 1999 12:04:42 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA24879; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 12:04:38 -0500 X-Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated X-Division: Core Technologies X-Department: Product Interoperability Analysis X-URL: Message-Id: <4.1.19990429100320.009da830@mail-303> X-Sender: isaacs@mail-303 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 10:03:44 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Dov Isaacs Subject: Re: [PDF] Acrobat 4 Installation woes In-Reply-To: <85256762.0058C113.00@keybank.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> There is only one Windows version. At 4/29/99 09:11 AM , you wrote: >Scott Miller wrote: >"Windows NT is harder to install for virtually anything, for example, so I >wouldn't be surprised if Acrobat was harder to deinstall and then install on >it." > >Is the Reader Windows NT version actually different from the Windows 95 >version? >In other words, is it important to offer both versions? > >--Karen _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 29-Apr-1999 17:18:16-GMT,4563;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id LAA28680 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 11:18:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA26022; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 12:15:21 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 29 Apr 1999 12:13:59 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA25831; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 12:13:55 -0500 Message-ID: <006901be9263$5f93ec60$466564c8@ntplx.net> From: "Michael Abrahamson" To: References: <002f01be925d$57c20720$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> Subject: Re: [PDF] Distiller printer driver (was: Acrobat 4 Installation woes) Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 13:11:51 -0400 Organization: Liturgical Publications MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Interestingly enough, when I decided to Distill a Word 97 file by using File>Print I ended up with a PDF file that was named "Microsoft Word - 03-0564.pdf". Acrobat actually took the title bar from Word and created the PDF file name from there rather than the simple name of the actual file - 03-0564.pdf. The saga continues... Mike Abrahamson Liturgical Publications ----- Original Message ----- From: Aandi Inston To: Sent: Thursday, April 29, 1999 12:28 PM Subject: RE: [PDF] Distiller printer driver (was: Acrobat 4 Installation woes) > > <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> > <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> > > > > With Acrobat 4 on Windows, you can always create a new "port" for > > the Acrobat Printer from within the driver and then delete the old > > ones. Thus, your port can be "C:\TEMP" if you want. I used > > "D:\Documents" which corresponds to the "My Documents" directory > > on my system. That eliminates the overly long names you have > > encountered. > > It may be worth trying to understand what makes the Acrobat printer > "tick", so we can better understand what is happening when it > stops ticking... > > My research shows that the "Acrobat Distiller" printer is simply > an instance of the ADOBEPS driver, version 4.2.4. I would hope that > this is not a special version of AdobePS, so that (for instance) > it won't break if a future AdobePS 4.2.5 or 4.3 is installed. > (I was hopeful that it would have a whole different driver name, > but it seems to be ADOBEPS4.DRV.) This is Windows 9x, NT must be > different. > > I also assume that if someone were to install any EARLIER version > of AdobePS, such as 4.1.x, or 4.2.3 or earlier (deliberately or > accidentally), that the driver would stop working. (People might > install 4.1.x for level 1 support). > > Presumably there is some "magic", since AdobePS 4.2.4 doesn't make > a PDF just because you print to a file port (?). So I am assuming > it is any instance installed with ADIST4.PPD which does the magic, > and does so because of the presence of ADIST4.DLL (and no doubt > some magic registry entries). So any other instances based on > ADIST4.PPD will work, and could potentially have other properties. > > This is all guesswork! I'm really hoping Dov will be able to confirm > or deny the details, so we'll be able to deal effectively with > people who end up with this all messed up. > > Aandi > > _____________________________________________________________ > > * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * > Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM > < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > > _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 29-Apr-1999 17:18:15-GMT,5442;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id LAA28681 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 11:18:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA26020; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 12:15:21 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 29 Apr 1999 12:14:00 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA25841; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 12:13:57 -0500 X-Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated X-Division: Core Technologies X-Department: Product Interoperability Analysis X-URL: Message-Id: <4.1.19990429101147.009d1c30@mail-303> X-Sender: isaacs@mail-303 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 10:13:02 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Dov Isaacs Subject: RE: [PDF] Distiller printer driver (was: Acrobat 4 Installation woes) Cc: "Aandi Inston" In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990429094533.00a1d5f0@mail-303> References: <002f01be925d$57c20720$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> <4.1.19990429084231.009e48d0@mail-303> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Actually, in retrospect, I would highly discourage any attempts to use anything earlier than AdobePS 4.2.4 with Acrobat 4. That is the earliest driver with which the system is tested and certified. - Dov At 4/29/99 10:01 AM , Dov Isaacs wrote: >Did someone use my name in vain? Or perhaps in England? (8-)> > >The "Acrobat Distiller" printer is actually just an instance of >the AdobePS driver that uses the PPD that ships with Acrobat 4, >pointed to the special port created for use by "AcroTray." > >There is no "magic sauce" in the driver. Theoretically, you can >use earlier versions of AdobePS (i.e. 4.1 or 4.2.2 or 4.2.3) with >Acrobat 4, but due to bug fixes in the driver 4.2.4 is the earliest >recommended. AdobePS 4.3 should be posted on the Adobe web site >within the next two weeks and that definitively is THE driver to >use with Acrobat 4 and Windows'98. It resolves the pre-2015 layout >problem as well as final issues related to TrueType font-based text >searchability in Acrobat 4. It also fixed the 256 page limit problem >of AdobePS 4.2.x. For Windows NT 4, use AdobePS 5.1 > >Both for Windows'9x and NT, the AdobePS driver passes PostScript along >to the special Acrobat port -- that is the "secret." Adist4.dll assists >in this process. The "Acrotray" resident background program picks up >such print jobs and funnels them to the Distiller after prompting >(optionally) for the destination for the PDF file. The Distiller runs >in the background with a small icon in the "tray". Acrotray then >optionally calls Acrobat 4 to display the resultant PDF file. > >Again, the driver simply sticks to the business of creating PostScript >and queuing a job. No conspiracies; no intrigue! > > -Dov > >At 4/29/99 09:28 AM , Aandi Inston wrote: >>> With Acrobat 4 on Windows, you can always create a new "port" for >>> the Acrobat Printer from within the driver and then delete the old >>> ones. Thus, your port can be "C:\TEMP" if you want. I used >>> "D:\Documents" which corresponds to the "My Documents" directory >>> on my system. That eliminates the overly long names you have >>> encountered. >> >>It may be worth trying to understand what makes the Acrobat printer >>"tick", so we can better understand what is happening when it >>stops ticking... >> >>My research shows that the "Acrobat Distiller" printer is simply >>an instance of the ADOBEPS driver, version 4.2.4. I would hope that >>this is not a special version of AdobePS, so that (for instance) >>it won't break if a future AdobePS 4.2.5 or 4.3 is installed. >>(I was hopeful that it would have a whole different driver name, >>but it seems to be ADOBEPS4.DRV.) This is Windows 9x, NT must be >>different. >> >>I also assume that if someone were to install any EARLIER version >>of AdobePS, such as 4.1.x, or 4.2.3 or earlier (deliberately or >>accidentally), that the driver would stop working. (People might >>install 4.1.x for level 1 support). >> >>Presumably there is some "magic", since AdobePS 4.2.4 doesn't make >>a PDF just because you print to a file port (?). So I am assuming >>it is any instance installed with ADIST4.PPD which does the magic, >>and does so because of the presence of ADIST4.DLL (and no doubt >>some magic registry entries). So any other instances based on >>ADIST4.PPD will work, and could potentially have other properties. >> >>This is all guesswork! I'm really hoping Dov will be able to confirm >>or deny the details, so we'll be able to deal effectively with >>people who end up with this all messed up. >> >>Aandi _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 29-Apr-1999 17:22:04-GMT,1855;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id LAA28796 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 11:22:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA26415; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 12:19:02 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 29 Apr 1999 12:17:50 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA26295; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 12:17:47 -0500 Content-return: allowed Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 13:17:43 -0400 From: "Watson, James R (Columbus)" Subject: RE: [PDF] Acrobat 4 Installation woes To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Message-id: <5913080CA46DD111A98200A0C9960C10013CC0DA@ns-bco-mse7.im.battelle.org> X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> > Upgrades are supposed to make our life easier. Software is supposed > to make our life easier. That is it's sole purpose. It just seems that > too > many software publishers bury that fact for their own financial interests. > > Mike Abrahamson > Liturgical Publications > =========== Well said and I could not agree more! _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 29-Apr-1999 17:29:06-GMT,5489;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id LAA29080 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 11:29:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA27167; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 12:25:45 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 29 Apr 1999 12:24:18 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA27000; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 12:24:16 -0500 X-Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated X-Division: Core Technologies X-Department: Product Interoperability Analysis X-URL: Message-Id: <4.1.19990429101841.00b525f0@mail-303> X-Sender: isaacs@mail-303 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 10:23:18 -0700 To: "Michael Abrahamson" From: Dov Isaacs Subject: Re: [PDF] Distiller printer driver (was: Acrobat 4 Installation woes) Cc: In-Reply-To: <006901be9263$5f93ec60$466564c8@ntplx.net> References: <002f01be925d$57c20720$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Michael, Acrobat doesn't make up that name. It comes from the name provided by MS Word to the driver to used for queuing the job. You can setup Acrobat 4 to prompt for that name, allowing you to change it and/or place the PDF file wherever you want in your file system or network. - Dov At 4/29/99 10:11 AM , Michael Abrahamson wrote: > ><- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> ><- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> > >Interestingly enough, when I decided to Distill a Word 97 file by using >File>Print I ended up with a PDF file that was named "Microsoft Word - >03-0564.pdf". Acrobat actually took the title bar from Word and created the >PDF file name from there rather than the simple name of the actual file - >03-0564.pdf. The saga continues... > >Mike Abrahamson >Liturgical Publications >----- Original Message ----- >From: Aandi Inston >To: >Sent: Thursday, April 29, 1999 12:28 PM >Subject: RE: [PDF] Distiller printer driver (was: Acrobat 4 Installation >woes) > > >> >> <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> >> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> >> >> >> > With Acrobat 4 on Windows, you can always create a new "port" for >> > the Acrobat Printer from within the driver and then delete the old >> > ones. Thus, your port can be "C:\TEMP" if you want. I used >> > "D:\Documents" which corresponds to the "My Documents" directory >> > on my system. That eliminates the overly long names you have >> > encountered. >> >> It may be worth trying to understand what makes the Acrobat printer >> "tick", so we can better understand what is happening when it >> stops ticking... >> >> My research shows that the "Acrobat Distiller" printer is simply >> an instance of the ADOBEPS driver, version 4.2.4. I would hope that >> this is not a special version of AdobePS, so that (for instance) >> it won't break if a future AdobePS 4.2.5 or 4.3 is installed. >> (I was hopeful that it would have a whole different driver name, >> but it seems to be ADOBEPS4.DRV.) This is Windows 9x, NT must be >> different. >> >> I also assume that if someone were to install any EARLIER version >> of AdobePS, such as 4.1.x, or 4.2.3 or earlier (deliberately or >> accidentally), that the driver would stop working. (People might >> install 4.1.x for level 1 support). >> >> Presumably there is some "magic", since AdobePS 4.2.4 doesn't make >> a PDF just because you print to a file port (?). So I am assuming >> it is any instance installed with ADIST4.PPD which does the magic, >> and does so because of the presence of ADIST4.DLL (and no doubt >> some magic registry entries). So any other instances based on >> ADIST4.PPD will work, and could potentially have other properties. >> >> This is all guesswork! I'm really hoping Dov will be able to confirm >> or deny the details, so we'll be able to deal effectively with >> people who end up with this all messed up. >> >> Aandi >> >> _____________________________________________________________ >> >> * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * >> Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM >> < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > >> > > > >_____________________________________________________________ > > * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * > Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM > < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > > _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 29-Apr-1999 18:21:51-GMT,2593;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id MAA00938 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 12:21:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA32615; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 13:16:27 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 29 Apr 1999 13:13:20 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA32367; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 13:13:17 -0500 X-Sender: castidata#mail.casti-publishing.com@10.31.192.2 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 11:52:41 -0600 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Kevin Chu Subject: [PDF] Mov's created with Sorenson Video Codec 2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Message-Id: <19990429175039Z547733-20428+9@edtnps05.telusplanet.net> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Hi, I am new to the list. I have ran into a recent major problem. After install QT4 the Sorenson Video Codec 2 (basic edition) was also installed over the v1 codec on my system. Now when I create mov's for my pdf's, Acrobat will not reconize the mov as a valid movie file! This is a major problem because I do not knwo how to remove the newer codec from my NT system, which means I have to transfer all my files to another computer which does not have the new codec install. Can anyone help? Either how I could remove the codec or does anyone know why Acrobat will not reconize a mov created with the Soreneson Codec v2. Both exchange 3.0 adn Acrobat 4 will not reconize the mov's. Thanks for any help.. Kevin CASTI Publishing Inc./Codes & Standards Training Inc. CASTI Cyber Training Inc./CASTI Digitizing and Multimedia Inc. 10566 - 114 Street, Edmonton, Alberta T5H 3J7 Canada Web site: www.casti-publishing.com tel: (780) 424-2552 fax: (780) 421-1308 e-mail: castidata@casti-publishing.com _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 29-Apr-1999 19:01:52-GMT,3780;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id NAA02162 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 13:01:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA04122; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 13:57:34 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 29 Apr 1999 13:54:57 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA03718; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 13:54:55 -0500 Message-ID: <3728AA0C.BB609EF@adobe.com> Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 11:50:52 -0700 From: Phil Ydens Organization: Adobe Systems X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Acrobat 4 Installation woes X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: <002801be91b2$03358d40$466564c8@ntplx.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Acrobat uses the registry to locate Office 97. It looks at about 4 or 5 different locations within the registry to determine the location of the Word Startup folder and the Office 97 program folder. Here is the algorithm. Would you please check your registry to see where it fails? Office 97 algorithm: 1) Look in HKEY_CURRENT_USER:\Software\Microsoft\Office\8.0\Word\Options Look for the named value STARTUP-PATH, does that string (if it exists) represent the StartupPath of Word 97? Look for the named value PROGRAMDIR, does that string (if it exists) represent the path to Office 97? 2) Look in HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE:\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Office\8.0\New User Setttings\Word\Options. Look for the named value STARTUP-PATH, does that string (if it exists) represent the StartupPath of Word 97? Look for the named value PROGRAMDIR, does that string (if it exists) represent the path to Office97? 3) Look in HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE:\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Office\8.0\Word\InstallRoot and look at the named value PATH. This path should be the path to Office 97. The path to the Word 97 startup folder will just add "\Startup" to the end of that path. 4) Look in HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE:\SOFTWARE\Classes\Word.Document.8\AppRegistry. Look at the default named value. On my machine it is: \Software\Microsoft\Office\8.0\Word. Add InstallRoot to the end of this and do #3. 5) The Office97 folder and the Startup folder have to be writable. 6) If 1, 2, 3 and 4 fails, or 5 fails, the installer will NOT install PDFMaker. If the installer cannot find Office 97, it will not install any of the PDFMaker components (even in the macros folder) because PDFMaker will NOT work by manually moving files to the proper folders. There are lots of OLE registry entries that are required, and the installer really needs to do the installation of PDFMaker. Let me know what you find out. Thanks, Phil Ydens Engineering Manager, Adobe Acrobat Michael Abrahamson wrote: > I finally received my Acrobat 4 full version and am having a problem > with the install. First of all, it says everywhere I read that the > PDFMaker macros are supposed to be automatically installed. _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 29-Apr-1999 19:15:44-GMT,2723;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id NAA02561 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 13:15:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA05816; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 14:12:22 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 29 Apr 1999 14:09:47 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA05468; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 14:09:43 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] System error using the form tool Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 20:09:25 +0100 Message-ID: <003501be9273$cc928000$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <37287E8A.6DBB@pit-magnus.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> My guess: you have the action on MOUSE DOWN. Any action that may close a document on MOUSE DOWN can crash Acrobat 3.x (presumably because the MOUSE UP event arrives and gets posted to something now lost). Solution: use MOUSE UP. In general, all actions should be placed on MOUSE UP, not MOUSE DOWN. This more closely matches the user interface of Windows and Macintosh, and slight changes like this can be discerting. Users may click a button, then drag the mouse off it, expecting nothing to happen (except maybe a helpful message). Aandi > Using the form tool I have created a button that I have assigned to > execute a menue item. When you click on the button it should > exit and > close the Acrobat program. This works on one of the four > computers that > I tested the action on. On the other three machines (1 pc > and 2 mac's) > I get protection error or type 1 error message. The machine that it > works on is a pc with Acrobat 4.0. The other machines are > running 3.2. > Any suggestions? _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 29-Apr-1999 20:41:16-GMT,3982;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id OAA05123 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 14:41:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA13652; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 15:31:06 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 29 Apr 1999 15:29:48 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA13509; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 15:29:47 -0500 Message-Id: <199904292029.NAA00450@dodo.prod.itd.earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 13:30:05 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] advice for multimedia-type development in Acrobat From: "C. Scott Miller" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> > We plan to distribute the companion book via CD and perhaps via > download from our web site (if file sizes are not prohibitive due to > movies). You may want to plan on two separate versions if you plan to go to web with one of them. If the user starts the movie, you may have downloading problems on-line. I would recommend not including QT movies on a web version. The movies will not be embedded in your PDF so they should not affect download speed from a web site. QT sounds are not embedded either. AIFF sounds are embedded so which format you use should be determined by how you will ultimately distribute it. > So, here's my question: Should we consider developing the digital book in > separate PDFs so that the PDF files will be smaller? (The book lends itself > to three major sections.) Personally, without knowing more, I would create a hyperlinked TOC PDF and one PDF each for the sections if it is going on the web. Byteserving is great but doesn't appear to work all the time in some configurations. >Can one PDF (say an overview) contain links to > other PDFs through bookmarks or hyperlinked TOC? Yes. You might look at my explanations and example online at http://www.performancegraphics.com/Pages/usepres.html#Embed. You might also pick apart two excellent online PDF books: Gordon Kent's "Internet Publishing With Acrobat" at http://www.novagraphix.com/Internet_Publishing_with_Acrobat/. His tips could help you immensely in this project. Ton McKinley's "From Paper to Web" at http://imagebiz.com/PaperWeb/INDEX.HTM. > If so, can this be > automated through PageMaker-created links? I am not a PageMaker user. You may need a third party plug-in, like Ambia Compose, which can stitch together a hyperlinked TOC from component PDFs. You should build small prototypes and test them extensively before you devote a production process to building the entire publication. This is particularly true if your CD is going cross-platform with Quicktime. Some features that work, don't perform well enough to include. You will want to include QT installers along with the entire Reader Installer set. On top of that, realize that people don't like to look at CDs that require much unautomated setup. -- HTH, C. Scott Miller PDF R_e_s_e_a_r_c_h__C_o_m_p_a_n_i_o_n A Designer's Guide to Adobe's Portable Document Format http://www.performancegraphics.com _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 29-Apr-1999 20:41:16-GMT,3803;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id OAA05122 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 14:41:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA12227; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 15:18:41 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 29 Apr 1999 15:15:04 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA11810; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 15:14:57 -0500 X-Sender: travel-media@bc1.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 13:17:10 -0800 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: weller@axion.net (Angus Weller) Subject: Re: [PDF] advice for multimedia-type development in Acrobat Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Susan wrote >Should we consider developing the digital book in separate PDFs so that the PDF files will be smaller? (The book lends itself to three major sections.) Can one PDF (say an overview) contain links to other PDFs through bookmarks or hyperlinked TOC? If so, can this be automated through PageMaker-created links?< Susan, I think creating your material in Pagemaker is a great idea but I would suggest that you don't create any links in PageMaker. 1) the links are difficult to edit if they have to be edited later 2) when exported to Exchange the links look funny, (each line gets the link even though they go to the same link. I like working Exchange where I can select multiple lines in one link box.) ie. ____________________________ | line with link | ____________________________ |second line with same link | ____________________________ instead of ____________________________ | link | | second line | ____________________________ this makes the pointer target easier to hit in my opinion. Remember we dont know what view the user will be working in. 3) Web serving relies on the ISP implementing byteserving on their machine. If you don't get this big files create nothing but grief for the end user. Using smaller files helps a bit especially if the user has a fast machine and internet connection. 4) Watch out for implementing features that work in Exchange but fail in Acrobat Reader. ie. duplicating a button on multiple pages. Might, I suggest that you test and test again as you move through the project. I didn't and had quite a bit of retro-fitting to perform in order to get the site working. Finally, think about how you want the file links to work-relative or url links- and be careful about your file names. As I work on a Mac I am switching to numbers to follow the old 8.3 file name configuration. Numbers will help me avoid cd's printing file names in capitals and causing failure if case-sensitivety become an issue. I hope my reply is on the mark. Angus ************************************* Angus Weller 6268 129th St., Surrey, British Columbia, Canada, V3X 1S6 Tel: (604) 591-5192 e-mail: weller@axion.net or travel-media@bc1.com Internet store: www.travel-media.com ************************************* _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 29-Apr-1999 20:54:54-GMT,3335;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id OAA05605 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 14:54:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA15517; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 15:49:17 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 29 Apr 1999 15:48:02 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA15362; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 15:47:57 -0500 Message-ID: <3728C474.D14C4D1A@adobe.com> Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 13:43:33 -0700 From: Phil Ydens Organization: Adobe Systems X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Customize Reader Install X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: <000001be9253$50a6c480$248799d1@oemcomputer> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Support for Abcpy.ini still exists in Acrobat 4.0. The documentation for this should be in the hands of developer support. It's on their web site: http://partners.adobe.com/supportservice/devrelations/nonmember/acrosdk/DOCS/abcpydoc.pdf BTW, Acrobat Reader 4 supports the ability to run directly off a CD-ROM without pre-installing. We are currently developing a Reader CD that will provide ALL readers (all platforms and all languages) and also the documentation on how to generate a reader that runs directly from CD. Phil Ydens Engineering Manager, Adobe Acrobat Jim Cullen wrote: > <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> > <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> > > Is there a way to customize the Acrobat Reader install? > > The 3.01 version was customizable through its ABCOPY.INI file. The old > Blind > Copy INI let me create custom CDs with my own plug-ins and made > shortcuts to > the Main PDF file. The 4.0 Reader doesn't seem to have the equivalent > option. > > I trapped the Reader install in my Windows Temp directory and found > some > interesting things. There is an "Adobe Installer Internal > Configuration > File: AdobeIns.ini" that looks very similar to the ABCOPY.INI, but > modifying > it doesn't have any effect. It looks like it creates a PKG file as > part of > startup that I assume controls the install. > > I've checked the Adobe site without success. Any suggestions? > > _____________________________________________________________ > > * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * > Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM > < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 29-Apr-1999 21:13:22-GMT,2350;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id PAA06221 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 15:13:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA17731; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 16:10:13 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 29 Apr 1999 16:08:40 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA17509; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 16:08:39 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: gertzse@po.muohio.edu Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 17:11:00 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Susan Gertz Subject: Re: [PDF] advice for multimedia-type development in Acrobat Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Thanks for your comments. I have a question though. you said: > 4) Watch out for implementing features that work in Exchange but fail in >Acrobat Reader. >ie. duplicating a button on multiple pages. > I tried this (using duplicate field), and it seems that all the buttons work in Reader 4.0. Am I missing something? Susan ____________________________________________________________________________ Susan Gertz Phone: (513) 727-3389 Manager, Document Production Fax: (513) 727-3223 Center for Chemical Education Miami University Middletown mailto:gertzse@muohio.edu Middletown, OH http://www.muohio.edu/cce/ ____________________________________________________________________________ _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 29-Apr-1999 21:34:50-GMT,2393;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id PAA06962 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 15:34:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA19703; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 16:30:16 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 29 Apr 1999 16:28:47 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA19551; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 16:28:46 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: gertzse@po.muohio.edu Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3728C474.D14C4D1A@adobe.com> References: <000001be9253$50a6c480$248799d1@oemcomputer> Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 17:31:05 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Susan Gertz Subject: Re: [PDF] Customize Reader Install Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Phil Ydens wrote: We are currently developing a Reader CD that >will provide ALL readers (all platforms and all languages) and also the >documentation on how to generate a reader that runs directly from CD. > If we are developing a PDF-based CD product, should we generate a reader that runs directly from CD? How do we find out how to do that? ____________________________________________________________________________ Susan Gertz Phone: (513) 727-3389 Manager, Document Production Fax: (513) 727-3223 Center for Chemical Education Miami University Middletown mailto:gertzse@muohio.edu Middletown, OH http://www.muohio.edu/cce/ ____________________________________________________________________________ _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 29-Apr-1999 21:35:02-GMT,1988;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id PAA06972 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 15:35:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA19947; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 16:32:01 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 29 Apr 1999 16:30:42 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA19751; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 16:30:40 -0500 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19990429213039.0097a3d8@env-sol.com> X-Sender: thiersch@env-sol.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 14:30:39 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Tom Thiersch Subject: Re: [PDF] Customize Reader Install Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Phil, *Please* be sure to include Search with all of those Readers! Thx Tom Thiersch At 01:43 PM 4/29/99 -0700, you wrote: > >BTW, Acrobat Reader 4 supports the ability to run directly off a CD-ROM >without pre-installing. We are currently developing a Reader CD that >will provide ALL readers (all platforms and all languages) and also the >documentation on how to generate a reader that runs directly from CD. > >Phil Ydens >Engineering Manager, Adobe Acrobat _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 29-Apr-1999 21:45:52-GMT,4917;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id PAA07349 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 15:45:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA20844; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 16:40:25 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 29 Apr 1999 16:39:17 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA20730; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 16:39:16 -0500 Message-ID: <00a301be9288$ef96d640$466564c8@ntplx.net> From: "Michael Abrahamson" To: References: <002801be91b2$03358d40$466564c8@ntplx.net> <3728AA0C.BB609EF@adobe.com> Subject: Re: [PDF] Acrobat 4 Installation woes Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 17:40:44 -0400 Organization: Liturgical Publications MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Phil, Thanks for the info on how Acrobat determines whether to install the PDFMaker macros, etc. I will be following your advice as my next step in debugging the problem. I appreciate your involvement in this thread. Mike Abrahamson Liturgical Publications ----- Original Message ----- From: Phil Ydens To: Sent: Thursday, April 29, 1999 2:50 PM Subject: Re: [PDF] Acrobat 4 Installation woes > > <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> > <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> > > Acrobat uses the registry to locate Office 97. It looks at about 4 or 5 > different locations within the registry to determine the location of the > Word Startup folder and the Office 97 program folder. Here is the > algorithm. Would you please check your registry to see where it fails? > > Office 97 algorithm: > > 1) Look in HKEY_CURRENT_USER:\Software\Microsoft\Office\8.0\Word\Options > > Look for the named value STARTUP-PATH, does that string (if it > exists) represent the StartupPath of Word 97? > Look for the named value PROGRAMDIR, does that string (if it > exists) represent the path to Office 97? > > 2) Look in HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE:\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Office\8.0\New User > Setttings\Word\Options. > Look for the named value STARTUP-PATH, does that string (if it > exists) represent the StartupPath of Word 97? > Look for the named value PROGRAMDIR, does that string (if it > exists) represent the path to Office97? > > 3) Look in > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE:\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Office\8.0\Word\InstallRoot and > look at the named value PATH. This path should be the path to Office 97. > The path to the Word 97 startup folder will just add "\Startup" to the > end of that path. > > 4) Look in > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE:\SOFTWARE\Classes\Word.Document.8\AppRegistry. Look > at the default named value. On my machine it is: > \Software\Microsoft\Office\8.0\Word. Add InstallRoot to the end of this > and do #3. > > 5) The Office97 folder and the Startup folder have to be writable. > > 6) If 1, 2, 3 and 4 fails, or 5 fails, the installer will NOT install > PDFMaker. > > > If the installer cannot find Office 97, it will not install any of the > PDFMaker components (even in the macros folder) because PDFMaker will > NOT work by manually moving files to the proper folders. There are lots > of OLE registry entries that are required, and the installer really > needs to do the installation of PDFMaker. Let me know what you find out. > > Thanks, > > Phil Ydens > Engineering Manager, Adobe Acrobat > > > Michael Abrahamson wrote: > > > I finally received my Acrobat 4 full version and am having a problem > > with the install. First of all, it says everywhere I read that the > > PDFMaker macros are supposed to be automatically installed. > > > _____________________________________________________________ > > * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * > Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM > < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > > > _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 29-Apr-1999 22:35:16-GMT,2585;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id QAA08820 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 16:35:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA25385; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 17:31:18 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 29 Apr 1999 17:29:55 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA25246; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 17:29:52 -0500 Message-ID: <3728DC68.1ECD1B40@adobe.com> Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 15:25:44 -0700 From: Phil Ydens Organization: Adobe Systems X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Customize Reader Install X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: <2.2.32.19990429213039.0097a3d8@env-sol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Reader + Search will be on the Reader CD. Phil Tom Thiersch wrote: > <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> > <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> > > Phil, > > *Please* be sure to include Search with all of those Readers! > > Thx > > Tom Thiersch > > At 01:43 PM 4/29/99 -0700, you wrote: > > > >BTW, Acrobat Reader 4 supports the ability to run directly off a > CD-ROM > >without pre-installing. We are currently developing a Reader CD that > >will provide ALL readers (all platforms and all languages) and also > the > >documentation on how to generate a reader that runs directly from CD. > > > > >Phil Ydens > >Engineering Manager, Adobe Acrobat > > _____________________________________________________________ > > * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * > Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM > < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 29-Apr-1999 22:37:06-GMT,3392;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id QAA08883 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 16:37:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA25271; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 17:30:01 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 29 Apr 1999 17:28:34 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA25126; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 17:28:32 -0500 Message-ID: <3728DC19.2239102E@adobe.com> Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 15:24:25 -0700 From: Phil Ydens Organization: Adobe Systems X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Customize Reader Install X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: <000001be9253$50a6c480$248799d1@oemcomputer> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Until the Reader CD is available, I would look at the Acrobat 4 shipping CD. Note that the product readme is in PDF format and Autoplay automatically runs the Acrobat Reader 4.0 when displaying the readme. Once the Reader CD is available, there will be documentation on how to generate a version of Reader that runs directly from the CD. In general the issues are 1) which languages do you want to support in the UI and 2) which languages are in the PDF file. Phil Susan Gertz wrote: > <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> > <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> > > Phil Ydens wrote: > > We are currently developing a Reader CD that > >will provide ALL readers (all platforms and all languages) and also > the > >documentation on how to generate a reader that runs directly from CD. > > > > If we are developing a PDF-based CD product, should we generate a > reader > that runs directly from CD? How do we find out how to do that? > ______________________________________________________________ > _____________ > Susan Gertz Phone: (513) > 727-3389 > Manager, Document Production Fax: (513) > 727-3223 > Center for Chemical Education > Miami University Middletown > mailto:gertzse@muohio.edu > Middletown, OH http://www.muohio.edu/cce/ > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > > _____________________________________________________________ > > * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * > Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM > < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 29-Apr-1999 23:12:26-GMT,2200;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id RAA09870 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 17:12:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA28337; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 18:03:44 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 29 Apr 1999 18:02:25 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA28215; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 18:02:24 -0500 Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 19:02:18 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199904292302.TAA83082@orion.idirect.com> X-Sender: cbarnsle@idirect.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Chris Barnsley Subject: [PDF] Recommend A Web Search Engine For Searching PDF? Cc: cbarnsle@city.hamilton.on.ca Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> We already have IIS Index Server on our corporate NT web server, but have experienced inconsistent results when searching PDF files. Sometimes it works, sometimes it does not. Our I.T. Director has given me the nod to start evaluating third party web search engines (such as Alta Vista, Excite, etc.). Has anyone been down this road and have any recommendations or suggestions on a search engine that will index PDF files reliably? Ease of use and configuration would be a bonus. Any help will be appreciated! Chris Barnsley Corporation City of Hamilton Information Technology Services cbarnsle@city.hamilton.on.ca _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 29-Apr-1999 23:25:42-GMT,2258;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id RAA10240 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 17:25:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA29483; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 18:17:09 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 29 Apr 1999 18:15:50 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA29296; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 18:15:48 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Recommend A Web Search Engine For Searching PDF? Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 00:15:41 +0100 Message-ID: <000101be9296$342767e0$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <199904292302.TAA83082@orion.idirect.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> > We already have IIS Index Server on our corporate NT web > server, but have > experienced inconsistent results when searching PDF files. > Sometimes it > works, sometimes it does not. Be sure to distinguish between (a) works inconsistently for the SAME files; this would suggest it can be improved, or (b) does not work on all files, but is consistent in its behaviour. If it is the latter, you may have unsearchable files for any number of reasons, and changing the search engine will be a waste of time. Aandi _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 30-Apr-1999 0:00:53-GMT,2108;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id SAA11297 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 18:00:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA32555; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 18:52:25 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 29 Apr 1999 18:50:40 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA32333; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 18:50:38 -0500 Message-ID: <76F37B2B6013D21184E400A02461E5AF014C9989@msexchg1.wcnoc.com> From: Decker Gary E To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" , "'acrobat@blueworld.com'" Subject: [PDF] Compatability problems with Acrobat 4.0 Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 18:50:26 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Does anyone know of any problems between Acrobat 4.0 and Capture 3.0? Also, between Acrobat 4.0 and Ambia Compose 4.0? The desktop staff within my company told me that, after they uninstalled Acrobat 3.0 and installed 4.0, that when they went to install Capture 3.0, it would not install properly, and that Compose 4.0 tried to install to Acrobat 3.0, and would not install either. Please advise. Gary E. Decker, Senior IS Analyst Wolf Creek Nuclear Operating Corporation Burlington, KS 66839 USA (316) 364-8831, ext. 8434 _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 30-Apr-1999 0:13:28-GMT,2921;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id SAA11625 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 18:13:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA01023; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 19:06:07 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 29 Apr 1999 19:04:43 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA00878; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 19:04:42 -0500 Message-ID: <76F37B2B6013D21184E400A02461E5AF014C998A@msexchg1.wcnoc.com> From: Decker Gary E To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" , "'acrobat@blueworld.com'" Subject: [PDF] Correction to previous message: Compatability problems with Acro bat 4.0 Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 19:04:35 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Of course, I meant Capture 2.01, not (as yet unreleased) 3.0. My apologies. > ---------- > From: Decker Gary E[SMTP:gadecke@WCNOC.com] > Reply To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Sent: Thursday, April 29, 1999 6:50 PM > To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'; 'acrobat@blueworld.com' > Subject: [PDF] Compatability problems with Acrobat 4.0 > > > <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> > <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> > > Does anyone know of any problems between Acrobat 4.0 and Capture 3.0? > Also, between Acrobat 4.0 and Ambia Compose 4.0? The desktop staff > within my company told me that, after they uninstalled Acrobat 3.0 and > installed 4.0, that when they went to install Capture 3.0, it would > not > install properly, and that Compose 4.0 tried to install to Acrobat > 3.0, > and would not install either. Please advise. > > Gary E. Decker, Senior IS Analyst > Wolf Creek Nuclear Operating Corporation > Burlington, KS 66839 USA > (316) 364-8831, ext. 8434 > > _____________________________________________________________ > > * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * > Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM > < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > > _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 30-Apr-1999 6:16:34-GMT,2586;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id AAA21471 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 00:16:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA25676; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 01:08:55 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 30 Apr 1999 01:05:44 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA25450; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 01:05:43 -0500 Message-ID: <37294872.602CD11C@hsbc.co.jp> Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 15:06:42 +0900 From: Patrick Niessen Organization: HSBC Securities X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en]C-CCK-MCD (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en, ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] How to Distill Japanese documents in Acrobat 4 ? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> We recently received Acrobat4.0 and I am so I am currently testing it to replace our previous pdf making system. So far there are no problems with English documents, and it is a good feature to have the optimise and make thumbnails options on the distiller. However it seems to be a bit more difficult to produce Japanese documents in the same way, at least some first attempts have only resulted in character garbage. We use NT4 Japanese with latest service packs. As a postscript driver we use the Fuji Xerox Acolor SMICS Server V4.0. Any suggestions how to make this work (perhaps change some font substitutions) ? regards Patrick ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Patrick A Niessen Equity Research Support / PC Support HSBC Securities Japan Ltd HSBC Building 11-1, Nihonbashi 3-chome, Chuo-ku, Tokyo 103-0027 Tel.: (03)5203-3829 Fax: (03)5203-3975 e-mail: niessen@hsbc.co.jp ------------------------------------------------------------------------ _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 30-Apr-1999 10:43:40-GMT,3284;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id EAA27341 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 04:43:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA06798; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 05:37:58 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 30 Apr 1999 05:33:30 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA06476; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 05:33:29 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19990430173150.009d72a0@mozart.inet.co.th> X-Sender: cooper@mozart.inet.co.th X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 17:31:50 +0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Doug Cooper Subject: [PDF] Finding bad links in Word (en route to PDF) In-Reply-To: <37294872.602CD11C@hsbc.co.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> It seems that PDFmaker dies when it encounters an internal document link to a bookmark that does not exist. This is lousy software design, IMHO, 'cause: a) Word itself sometimes garbles link creation, b) it means that a large doc can't be incrementally tested, c) it lets a local typo stop the production process, and d) there is no way to find what the bad link was. The attached bit of perl is a semi-workaround. Save the file in .rtf, then run the following to print bad link names. Then, use grep or more to find the context the bad link occurred in, and finally clean up the source .doc file. Note point (a) above -- Word itself does occasionally create garbled hyperlink references. Sigh... Doug Cooper #Print HYPERLINK ref's to non-existent links $/ = "{"; #snarf by opening brackets (Word RTF line-breaks are unpredictable) while (<>) { #for every input hunk $links{$1}++ if /HYPERLINK[^"]*"(\w+)"/; #match foo in HYPERLINK "foo" $marks{$1}++ if /bkmkstart\s*(\w*)\W/; #match bar bkmkstart bar } foreach (keys %links) { #for every link we spotted... print "undefined: $_\n" unless $marks{$_}; #print unless def'd as bookmark } #Following is for debugging this code. # foreach (keys %links) { print "$_\n"; } #print all links # foreach (keys %marks) { print "$_\n"; } #print all defined bookmarks __________________________________________________ 1425 VP Tower, 21/45 Soi Chawakun Rangnam Road, Rajthevi, Bangkok, 10400 doug@th.net (662) 246-8946 fax (662) 246-8789 Southeast Asian Software Research Center, Bangkok http://seasrc.th.net --> SEASRC Web site http://seasrc.th.net/sealang --> SEALANG Web site _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 30-Apr-1999 10:43:40-GMT,3114;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id EAA27342 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 04:43:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA06797; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 05:37:56 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 30 Apr 1999 05:33:27 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA06452; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 05:33:25 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19990430173152.007fb5a0@mozart.inet.co.th> X-Sender: cooper@mozart.inet.co.th X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 17:31:52 +0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Doug Cooper Subject: [PDF] PDFmaker link problems Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> A few problems with links in 'drag and drop' conversion of doc: 1) In small test files, the 'hot spot' in the final pdf is located directly below the actual link reference; eg. the outline box is drawn below rather than over the word. This occurs with ATM Deluxe both off and on. Anybody encounter this? 2) PDFmaker's resolution of document-internal links is incredibly slow (eg. 335 page file with 1400 links takes over 2 hours on Pentium II). Is there some way in which I can pre-process an rtf file (eg. replace HYPERLINK / bkmkstart entries with pdfmarks, then convert the rtf back to doc before processing) to speed this up? I'd be happy to write and distribute a perl script that does the rtf-file subs if somebody will advise on what pdf code to swap in. 3) Finally, after grinding away for some hours, the above file fails during distilling with the below. Is this meaningful, or is it simply indicative of some other problem? %%[ Error: rangecheck; OffendingCommand: pdfmark; ErrorInfo: Page -1 ]%% Stack: /LNK [/XYZ -null- -null- -null-] /View -1 /Page 2 /SrcPg /N /H [0 0 0] /Color [0 0 0] /Border [131 365 137 377] /Rect -dict- If you reply off-line, I'll post a summary. Thanks in advance, Doug Cooper __________________________________________________ 1425 VP Tower, 21/45 Soi Chawakun Rangnam Road, Rajthevi, Bangkok, 10400 doug@th.net (662) 246-8946 fax (662) 246-8789 Southeast Asian Software Research Center, Bangkok http://seasrc.th.net --> SEASRC Web site http://seasrc.th.net/sealang --> SEALANG Web site _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 30-Apr-1999 10:46:47-GMT,2885;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id EAA27433 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 04:46:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA07170; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 05:43:19 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 30 Apr 1999 05:40:52 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA06944; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 05:40:51 -0500 Message-ID: <37291AC1.806F89EC@reporters.net> Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 10:51:45 +0800 From: "F. Marc de Piolenc" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] EPS Troubles References: <4.1.19990429084231.009e48d0@mail-303> <4.1.19990429094533.00a1d5f0@mail-303> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> This is off-topic, but I have a strong suspicion that somebody on the list knows the answer. The document that I am trying to generate will eventually be published in both print and .pdf, so there is a tenuous tie-in. I am trying a sneaky "back door" to including MathCAD worksheets in a Ventura Publisher document. The idea is to print to an EPS (encapsulated PostScript) file, then import that file into a VP frame as an image. Seems straightforward - VP accepts EPS images, and the default PostScript printer driver from Adobe will output EPS files. No problem, right? WRONG. The EPS files that I'm getting are not recognized as valid by VP, or by any other application that I have that reads EPS files. I've tried changing the fonts in the MathCAD worksheet to PostScript fonts, figuring that font substitution was causing the trouble. No change. I've been fooling around with other options in the PostScript drive with, so far, no result. I've tried printing one page at a time, figuring that multipage files were causing the confusion. No dice. I have spent a good hour on-line searching the Adobe support pages, also with no luck. My guess is that some genius on this list knows exactly what I'm doing wrong. HELP. Thanks in advance. Marc de Piolenc Autodidactics _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 30-Apr-1999 12:09:01-GMT,3005;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id GAA29355 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 06:09:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA11901; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 07:04:35 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 30 Apr 1999 07:01:50 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA11619; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 07:01:48 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] EPS Troubles Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 13:01:38 +0100 Message-ID: <000401be9301$34e006e0$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <37291AC1.806F89EC@reporters.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> > I am trying a sneaky "back door" to including MathCAD worksheets in a > Ventura Publisher document. The idea is to print to an EPS > (encapsulated > PostScript) file, then import that file into a VP frame as an image. > Seems straightforward - VP accepts EPS images, and the default > PostScript printer driver from Adobe will output EPS files. > No problem, > right? WRONG. > > The EPS files that I'm getting are not recognized as valid by > VP, or by > any other application that I have that reads EPS files. In many Windows programs you can print to an EPS file using the printer driver. This is possible if the document to print is a single page, AND if you select EPS format in the driver. This does not usually work, however, with applications that elect to generate their own PostScript, rather than letting the driver do the work. These include most high-end DTP applications e.g. Photoshop, QuarkXPress, PageMaker, Illustrator, CorelDRAW, Freehand, Acrobat Exchange and others. In these cases the driver settings do not have much influence on the PostScript produced. It is no coincidence that all of the above also have facilities to export, save as (etc.) EPS. The question is: does MATHCAD generate its own PostScript? I don't know, but it is not unusual for CAD programs to do so. Aandi _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 30-Apr-1999 12:20:54-GMT,2310;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id GAA29623 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 06:20:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA12663; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 07:16:33 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 30 Apr 1999 07:13:54 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA12463; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 07:13:53 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: kfoss@mailbag.com Message-Id: Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 07:15:46 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: "Sue Liptak" Subject: [PDF] Upgrading Acrobat Workgroups to 4.0 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Has anyone found a way to upgrade an Acrobat Workgroups (10 pack) version to 4.0 for the $99 upgrade fee? I've had Acrobat Workgroups since Version 2.0. I have upgraded with each new version. I called Adobe to upgrade to 4.0 for $99. Because a Workgroups package is not offered with 4.0, I cannot upgrade my version! Due to downsizing, I only need one copy of Acrobat. According to Adobe, I have to purchase a single-user version for $249. It doesn't seem fair that a company that paid more for a Workgroups version cannot even "convert" it to a single version. If anyone else has a Workgroups version and finds a way to upgrade to 4.0 for a low price, please let me know. Thank you. Susan Liptak Manager, Technical Publications Aonix 35 Nutmeg Drive Trumbull, CT 06611 Phone: 203.383.4741 FAX: 203.383.4601 e-mail: sml@aonix.com _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 30-Apr-1999 12:30:50-GMT,1808;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id GAA29882 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 06:30:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA13531; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 07:28:11 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 30 Apr 1999 07:25:36 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA13277; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 07:25:35 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC2C706823FD211963400805FBEDF4E631687@gsomail> From: "Perry, Bob" To: PDF List Subject: [PDF] Reader 4.0 and Windows for Workgroups Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 07:25:15 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Reader 4.0 is 32 bit app. Is anyone out there using Windows for Workgroups (a 16 bit app) with Reader 4.0? What works, what doesn't? I want to install Reader 4.0 company-wide, but we have a small group of Windows for Workgroups users holding us back. Has anyone else had to deal with this problem? Thanks, -Bob Perry _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 30-Apr-1999 12:58:09-GMT,2251;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id GAA00630 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 06:58:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA15321; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 07:53:06 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 30 Apr 1999 07:50:31 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA15068; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 07:50:30 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Reader 4.0 and Windows for Workgroups Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 13:50:22 +0100 Message-ID: <000501be9308$034c3520$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <3FC2C706823FD211963400805FBEDF4E631687@gsomail> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> > Reader 4.0 is 32 bit app. Is anyone out there using Windows > for Workgroups > (a 16 bit app) with Reader 4.0? > What works, what doesn't? It is only supported for 32-bit windows. It is very unlikely that you would be able to force it onto Windows 3.x. > I want to install Reader 4.0 company-wide, but we have a > small group of > Windows for Workgroups users holding us back. Reader 3.x has reasonable compatibility with many files produced with Acrobat 4.x, and 4.x can produce 3.0 compatible files. Aandi _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 30-Apr-1999 13:50:54-GMT,2065;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id HAA01952 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 07:50:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA19217; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 08:45:08 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 30 Apr 1999 08:43:18 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA19055; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 08:43:17 -0500 Message-ID: <3729D01A.66D141D0@tamu.edu> Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 08:45:30 -0700 From: Bill Watson X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Upgrading Acrobat Workgroups to 4.0 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> <<<>> Call Chris at Corporate Software & Technology 800-677-4000 He has a handle on upgrading 3.0 for workgroups to 4.0 Quoted me 267.00 for the 10 seat upgrade. -- Bill Watson Communications Specialist Texas Agricultural Extension Service (409) 845-2807 (409) 862-1202 bs-watson@tamu.edu http://agpublications.tamu.edu/ _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 30-Apr-1999 13:57:53-GMT,2093;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id HAA02138 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 07:57:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA19893; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 08:53:48 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 30 Apr 1999 08:52:16 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA19753; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 08:52:15 -0500 Content-return: allowed Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 09:51:54 -0400 From: "Watson, James R (Columbus)" Subject: RE: [PDF] Upgrading Acrobat Workgroups to 4.0 To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Message-id: <5913080CA46DD111A98200A0C9960C10013CC0E2@ns-bco-mse7.im.battelle.org> X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> > I've had Acrobat Workgroups since Version 2.0. I have upgraded with > each new version. > Me too.... > IAccording to Adobe, I > have to purchase a single-user version for $249. > What? After support them with a larger purchase in the past.... > It doesn't seem fair that a company that paid more for a Workgroups > version cannot even "convert" it to a single version. > I agree.... > If anyone else has a Workgroups version and finds a way to upgrade to > 4.0 for a low price, please let me know. > And me too.... Jim Watson watson@battelle.org _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 30-Apr-1999 14:22:20-GMT,2318;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id IAA02830 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 08:22:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA22006; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 09:17:11 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 30 Apr 1999 09:13:42 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA21610; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 09:13:41 -0500 Message-ID: <3729BC43.20D11BB8@reporters.net> Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 22:20:51 +0800 From: "F. Marc de Piolenc" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] EPS Troubles References: <000401be9301$34e006e0$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Aandi Inston wrote: > In many Windows programs you can print to an EPS file using the > printer driver. This is possible if the document to print is a single > page, AND if you select EPS format in the driver. > > This does not usually work, however, with applications that elect > to generate their own PostScript, rather than letting the driver do > the work. > The question is: does MATHCAD generate its own PostScript? I don't > know, but it is not unusual for CAD programs to do so. MathCAD is a misnomer - it's an equation processing and typesetting program, but has no CAD capabilities. I have no idea why it was so named. As for generating its own PostScript code, it seems to depend on printer drivers. Marc de Piolenc _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 30-Apr-1999 14:28:58-GMT,3684;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id IAA03001 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 08:28:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA22744; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 09:25:39 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 30 Apr 1999 09:24:21 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA22625; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 09:24:20 -0500 Message-ID: <91B0C432E1D8D111917000805F7DEB350C1C2B@HQMAIN> From: Sheila Mahoney To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Cc: Steve Im , Jinsoo Kim Subject: RE: [PDF] copying graphics from a PDF Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 10:24:31 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Hi! There's freeware called "GraphicCopy" available for download at the Image Solutions website, www.imagesolutions.com. It sounds like exactly what you need as it provides much better quality than the standard acrobat copy/paste function for graphics. Sheila Mahoney Image Solutions, Inc. sheilam@imagesolutions.com > -----Original Message----- > From: Susan Gertz [SMTP:gertzse@muohio.edu] > Sent: Thursday, April 22, 1999 5:04 PM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: [PDF] copying graphics from a PDF > > > <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> > <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> > > Hello. I am making a series of PDF files for web distribution. We want > users to be able to print and use the files as they are, but we also > want > them to be able to copy text and graphics from the PDF file and put > these > into a word processor file for their own use. I have tested this, and > find > that the copied graphics are of very poor quality (they look like > screen > resolution captures.) The original graphics are eps, and they view and > print fine from the PDF file. > > Is there any way to create the PDF file so that the copied graphics > look > better? I am using distiller settings optimized for printing on a > laser > printer. > > thanks in advance > > Susan Gertz > ______________________________________________________________________ > ______ > Susan Gertz Phone: (513) > 727-3389 > Manager, Document Production Fax: (513) > 727-3223 > Center for Chemical Education > Miami University Middletown > mailto:gertzse@muohio.edu > Middletown, OH http://www.muohio.edu/cce/ > ______________________________________________________________________ > ______ > > _____________________________________________________________ > > * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * > Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM > < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 30-Apr-1999 15:13:06-GMT,2956;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id JAA04329 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 09:13:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA26280; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 10:06:32 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 30 Apr 1999 10:04:49 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA26093; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 10:04:47 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990430110637.00958160@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 11:06:37 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: RE: [PDF] Distiller printer driver (was: Acrobat 4 Installation woes) In-Reply-To: <002f01be925d$57c20720$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> References: <4.1.19990429084231.009e48d0@mail-303> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> > >Presumably there is some "magic", since AdobePS 4.2.4 doesn't make >a PDF just because you print to a file port (?). So I am assuming >it is any instance installed with ADIST4.PPD which does the magic, >and does so because of the presence of ADIST4.DLL (and no doubt >some magic registry entries). So any other instances based on >ADIST4.PPD will work, and could potentially have other properties. > Sounds very reasonable. I have another driver that does similar magic ... it's essentially the MS PS driver + SPD/PPD but with its own "monitor" DLL as well. The monitor does various things, among them popping up when you print to the driver and allowing you to supply a filename for the output regardless of what port the driver's nominally attached to. It will also generate random but unique filenames for the PS if you don't want to be bothered filling them in yourself, and can optionally invoke another program that allows you to send the resulting PS off to a service bureau. Sounds like very similar things are going on sub-hood (er, sorry ... -bonnet) Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 30-Apr-1999 15:16:32-GMT,3033;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id JAA04420 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 09:16:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA26965; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 10:13:21 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 30 Apr 1999 10:12:11 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA26834; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 10:12:10 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990430111402.00993840@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 11:14:02 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] advice for multimedia-type development in Acrobat In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> > >I am working on a project to create a digital companion book to an existing >print book that was published about 6 years ago. The companion book will >have updated text information as well as many color photos and quicktime >movies. We plan to distribute the companion book via CD and perhaps via >download from our web site (if file sizes are not prohibitive due to >movies). The basic content (including table of contents and index) will be >developed on PageMaker and exported to PDF with bookmarks and links. >Buttons and movies will be added in Acrobat. > Do yourself a VERY big favor and read up on how to use PDFMark code in EPS files. It's not overly complex, and will save tons of time; you can, for instance, create a single navigation button bar this way, put it on your master page in PM and never have to fiddle with it in Exchange (nor fiddle with it again each and every time you have to modify the PM document and re-make PDF). Also, be cautious of PM's bookmarks. PM has a tendency to lose track of what it's doing and create blanks, tech support at Adobe acknowledges this problem but has no idea what causes it, and the workarounds they propose aren't practical in any real-world sense. Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 30-Apr-1999 15:28:04-GMT,2573;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id JAA04839 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 09:28:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA27731; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 10:21:16 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 30 Apr 1999 10:20:07 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA27633; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 10:20:06 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990430112158.0099d910@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 11:21:58 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] advice for multimedia-type development in Acrobat In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> >2) when exported to Exchange the links look funny, (each line gets the link >even though they go to the same link. I like working Exchange where I can >select multiple lines in one link box.) > Good point (as with the others) A couple possible ways around this: 1) make the links invisible when you make the PDF from PM, but format them differently manually 2) there's a script that will search out links and reformat them to your specs. Naturally, I only stumbled across this possible gem *after* having manually reformatted all the links text. Sigh. How well it works, I don't know. Even so, the links do look a little peculiar in Reader if you let them highlight or "depress" since it's a per-line rather than block affair, as you point out. Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 30-Apr-1999 15:37:44-GMT,2929;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id JAA05248 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 09:37:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA29385; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 10:34:36 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 30 Apr 1999 10:32:57 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA29155; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 10:32:56 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990430113449.009929a0@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 11:34:49 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] EPS Troubles In-Reply-To: <37291AC1.806F89EC@reporters.net> References: <4.1.19990429084231.009e48d0@mail-303> <4.1.19990429094533.00a1d5f0@mail-303> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> >I am trying a sneaky "back door" to including MathCAD worksheets in a >Ventura Publisher document. The idea is to print to an EPS (encapsulated >PostScript) file, then import that file into a VP frame as an image. >Seems straightforward - VP accepts EPS images, and the default >PostScript printer driver from Adobe will output EPS files. No problem, >right? WRONG. >The EPS files that I'm getting are not recognized as valid by VP, or by >any other application that I have that reads EPS files. > Since you mention even the possibility of printing multipage files to EPS, I'd assume this is under Win3.x since the Win95 and later PS drivers won't even allow you to do that. What version of VP, and what does it complain about when you try to import the EPS files? I don't really remember all the details now, but I produced something like 600 pages of documentation in VP (4.2 maybe? Don't even recall the version) where each page had a printer-driver produced EPS on it. I also recall that they did change some of the EPS import stuff in later versions. Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 30-Apr-1999 15:38:19-GMT,2381;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id JAA05271 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 09:38:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA29559; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 10:35:32 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 30 Apr 1999 10:34:26 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA29354; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 10:34:25 -0500 From: joemiller@canberra.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: PBC To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <85256763.0054F2DD.00@aragorn.canberra.com> Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 11:27:50 -0400 Subject: [PDF] Bad Screen Display With Acrobat 4 PDFs Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> In trying to print from Ventura 8 to the Acrobat Distiller 4.0 driver (Screen Optimized), the display looks like the text is set in a super-bolded fuzzy font, though it prints ok. All Distiller parameters are at their default setting. We use T1 fonts exclusively and all fonts are present and recognized by Adobe Type Manager. Other Ventura users report no problems, so it looks like this is a local problem. The Acrobat ReadMe.pdf says: "If you encounter problems viewing PDF files when using Matrox or ATI video cards, consider upgrading to the newest video drivers....An updated driver will very likely fix the problem." I hope there's another reason for my fuzzy fonts. It would be totally unacceptable to ask our customers who have Matrox cards (as in many (most?) Gateway machines) to find and install the latest Matrox drivers so they can read our user's manuals. Joe Miller _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 30-Apr-1999 15:59:20-GMT,2332;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id JAA05956 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 09:59:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA31602; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 10:53:27 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 30 Apr 1999 10:52:02 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA31377; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 10:52:00 -0500 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19990430155201.0097f290@env-sol.com> X-Sender: thiersch@env-sol.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 08:52:01 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Tom Thiersch Subject: Re: [PDF] Bad Screen Display With Acrobat 4 PDFs Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Joe, Have you set your File>Preferences? in Acrobat (Viewer) ? The default option to "Smooth text ..." leads to this "fuzzy text" symptom. Uncheck this option, and you should see an immediate improvement -- something that looks a LOT more like what you would expect. Rgds Tom Thiersch At 11:27 AM 4/30/99 -0400, you wrote: > >In trying to print from Ventura 8 to the Acrobat Distiller 4.0 driver >(Screen Optimized), the display looks like the text is set in a >super-bolded fuzzy font, though it prints ok. > > >I hope there's another reason for my fuzzy fonts. It would be totally >unacceptable to ask our customers who have Matrox cards (as in many (most?) > Gateway machines) to find and install the latest Matrox drivers so they >can read our user's manuals. > >Joe Miller > _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 30-Apr-1999 16:00:03-GMT,2670;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id KAA05971 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 10:00:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA31816; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 10:55:19 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 30 Apr 1999 10:54:08 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA31677; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 10:54:06 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Bad Screen Display With Acrobat 4 PDFs Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 16:53:56 +0100 Message-ID: <000601be9321$a86137e0$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <85256763.0054F2DD.00@aragorn.canberra.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> > The Acrobat ReadMe.pdf says: "If you encounter problems > viewing PDF files > when using Matrox or ATI video cards, consider upgrading to the newest > video drivers....An updated driver will very likely fix the problem." > > I hope there's another reason for my fuzzy fonts. It would be totally > unacceptable to ask our customers who have Matrox cards (as > in many (most?) > Gateway machines) to find and install the latest Matrox > drivers so they can read our user's manuals. But it is a fact that many machines ship with drivers that are not the latest. Anyway, you can easily put this theory to the text. Just temporarily switch off video acceleration desktop -> right click -> properties -> settings -> advanced -> performance -> slider all the way to the left -> OK -> reboot. Switch it back on later. Also, check the SMOOTH FONTS option. Many people mistake font smoothing for a fault, if they are not used to it. Aandi _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 30-Apr-1999 16:07:02-GMT,2140;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id KAA06190 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 10:07:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA30906; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 10:48:18 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 30 Apr 1999 10:46:58 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA30711; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 10:46:55 -0500 Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 11:46:51 -0400 X-Sender: gertzse@po.muohio.edu Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19990430111402.00993840@pop.iglou.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Susan Gertz Subject: Re: [PDF] advice for multimedia-type development in Acrobat Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Steve writes: >Do yourself a VERY big favor and read up on how to use PDFMark code in EPS >files. It's not overly complex, and will save tons of time; you can, for >instance, create a single navigation button bar this way, put it on your >master page in PM and never have to fiddle with it in Exchange (nor fiddle >with it again each and every time you have to modify the PM document and >re-make PDF). > This sounds great. What is a good reference for learning how to create a navigation button bar using PDFMark code? Susan _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 30-Apr-1999 16:12:54-GMT,4026;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id KAA06546 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 10:12:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA00489; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 11:09:30 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 30 Apr 1999 11:07:22 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA00313; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 11:07:21 -0500 X-Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated X-Division: Core Technologies X-Department: Product Interoperability Analysis X-URL: Message-Id: <4.1.19990430090136.00a56eb0@mail-303> X-Sender: isaacs@mail-303 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 09:05:42 -0700 To: "F. Marc de Piolenc" From: Dov Isaacs Subject: Re: [PDF] EPS Troubles Cc: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com In-Reply-To: <37291AC1.806F89EC@reporters.net> References: <4.1.19990429084231.009e48d0@mail-303> <4.1.19990429094533.00a1d5f0@mail-303> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> EPS files generated by the AdobePS drivers on Windows are valid, kosher EPS files. However, they are somewhat different than those produced by programs such as Illustrator or Photoshop. (1) They do not have previews. Drivers don't interpret the PostScript they generate. (2) They are not in a format similar to that used by Illustrator or Photoshop. Some programs that import EPS files will accept such driver-generated EPS files and some won't. In no case, though, will you see a preview. A better solution might be to create a PDF file and in Acrobat Exchange 3.0x or Acrobat 4 export EPS from the PDF file after optionally performing whatever cropping you want or need. Such EPS files contain embedded fonts if desired, have a valid EPS TIFF preview, and appear to be accepted by many more applications. - Dov At 4/29/99 07:51 PM , F. Marc de Piolenc wrote: >This is off-topic, but I have a strong suspicion that somebody on the >list knows the answer. The document that I am trying to generate will >eventually be published in both print and .pdf, so there is a tenuous >tie-in. > >I am trying a sneaky "back door" to including MathCAD worksheets in a >Ventura Publisher document. The idea is to print to an EPS (encapsulated >PostScript) file, then import that file into a VP frame as an image. >Seems straightforward - VP accepts EPS images, and the default >PostScript printer driver from Adobe will output EPS files. No problem, >right? WRONG. > >The EPS files that I'm getting are not recognized as valid by VP, or by >any other application that I have that reads EPS files. > >I've tried changing the fonts in the MathCAD worksheet to PostScript >fonts, figuring that font substitution was causing the trouble. No >change. I've been fooling around with other options in the PostScript >drive with, so far, no result. I've tried printing one page at a time, >figuring that multipage files were causing the confusion. No dice. I >have spent a good hour on-line searching the Adobe support pages, also >with no luck. > >My guess is that some genius on this list knows exactly what I'm doing >wrong. HELP. > >Thanks in advance. > >Marc de Piolenc >Autodidactics _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 30-Apr-1999 16:36:24-GMT,3114;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id KAA07364 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 10:36:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA02527; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 11:31:08 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 30 Apr 1999 11:29:59 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA02410; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 11:29:58 -0500 From: "Scott Hamlow" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] advice for multimedia-type development in Acrobat Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 09:29:39 -0700 Message-ID: <000d01be9326$a4bad2e0$45a2fecc@scotth.fourgen.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2232.26 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Thomas Merz has an excellent resource on his website called the pdfmark Primer. It's at http://www.ifconnection.de/~tm > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com [mailto:owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com]On > Behalf Of Susan Gertz > Sent: Friday, April 30, 1999 8:47 AM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: Re: [PDF] advice for multimedia-type development in Acrobat > > > > <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> > <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> > > Steve writes: > > >Do yourself a VERY big favor and read up on how to use PDFMark code in EPS > >files. It's not overly complex, and will save tons of time; you can, for > >instance, create a single navigation button bar this way, put it on your > >master page in PM and never have to fiddle with it in Exchange (nor fiddle > >with it again each and every time you have to modify the PM document and > >re-make PDF). > > > This sounds great. What is a good reference for learning how to create a > navigation button bar using PDFMark code? > > Susan > > > > _____________________________________________________________ > > * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * > Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM > < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > > > _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 30-Apr-1999 16:53:29-GMT,3046;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id KAA07878 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 10:53:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA04727; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 11:48:54 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 30 Apr 1999 11:47:26 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA04459; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 11:47:25 -0500 X-Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated X-Division: Core Technologies X-Department: Product Interoperability Analysis X-URL: Message-Id: <4.1.19990430094430.00b72880@mail-303> X-Sender: isaacs@mail-303 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 09:46:20 -0700 To: joemiller@canberra.com From: Dov Isaacs Subject: Re: [PDF] Bad Screen Display With Acrobat 4 PDFs Cc: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com In-Reply-To: <85256763.0054F2DD.00@aragorn.canberra.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> At 4/30/99 08:27 AM , joemiller@canberra.com wrote: >In trying to print from Ventura 8 to the Acrobat Distiller 4.0 driver >(Screen Optimized), the display looks like the text is set in a >super-bolded fuzzy font, though it prints ok. > >All Distiller parameters are at their default setting. We use T1 fonts >exclusively and all fonts are present and recognized by Adobe Type Manager. > >Other Ventura users report no problems, so it looks like this is a local >problem. > >The Acrobat ReadMe.pdf says: "If you encounter problems viewing PDF files >when using Matrox or ATI video cards, consider upgrading to the newest >video drivers....An updated driver will very likely fix the problem." > >I hope there's another reason for my fuzzy fonts. It would be totally >unacceptable to ask our customers who have Matrox cards (as in many (most?) > Gateway machines) to find and install the latest Matrox drivers so they >can read our user's manuals. > >Joe Miller You might want to uncheck the "smooth text and images" option in the Acrobat 4 preferences. This turns off antialiasing for text which, in combination with the particular resolution of your monitor, your video card, and/or the driver for your video card, might result in symptoms as you describe them. - Dov _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 30-Apr-1999 18:24:47-GMT,2678;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id MAA10890 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 12:24:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA13868; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 13:15:50 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 30 Apr 1999 13:10:19 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA13324; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 13:10:17 -0500 From: Karen_L_Mibus@keybank.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: KEYCORP To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <85256763.00639A28.00@keybank.com> Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 14:09:40 -0400 Subject: [PDF] Problems with Running Acrobat Reader 4.0 in IE 4.0 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Has anyone else experienced problems with running Acrobat Reader in IE 4.0? I was a beta tester and tested all beta versions including the final version in IE 4.0 in both the 128-bit encrypted and non-128-bit encrypted versions without difficulty. Any clues or ideas what could be causing the problems described below? --Karen --------------- I'm having very serious problems running Acrobat Reader 4.0 on my machine. It's causing I.E. 4.0 to lock up and seems to be causing memory problems. I installed the new reader after investigating why Health Care Comparison Charts were locking up Acrobat Reader 3. I figured that perhaps since these are newer PDF files, they were generated in Acrobat 4. I downloaded the reader from the Adobe site (and later the version we're going to put on (our corporate Intranet)). I was able to open the PDF files, but had trouble printing (text not printing). Then, when I hit the back button, the browser would just sit and clock. Obviously this new Reader has I.E. 4.0 issues which I will investigate. I think we should wait until we find out what the problem is before making this the new Reader available on (our corporate Intranet). _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 30-Apr-1999 19:14:44-GMT,2427;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id NAA12579 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 13:14:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA19254; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 14:10:16 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 30 Apr 1999 14:07:25 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA18891; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 14:07:21 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: gertzse@po.muohio.edu Message-Id: Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 14:47:39 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Susan Gertz Subject: [PDF] font mapping when copying PDF text Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> We are creating some PDF files that users may be copying text out of using Reader only (NOT Exchange). On Macs the text copies out OK. On PCs, some of the characters are not mapping correctly and end up as garbage. A Fontographer tech guy at Macromedia said to make sure to use fonts with Adobe encoding (not custom), although this wasn't a guarantee of avoiding the problem. Does anyone else have insight into this? Would avoiding subsetting of fonts help? thanks Susan ____________________________________________________________________________ Susan Gertz Phone: (513) 727-3389 Manager, Document Production Fax: (513) 727-3223 Center for Chemical Education Miami University Middletown mailto:gertzse@muohio.edu Middletown, OH http://www.muohio.edu/cce/ ____________________________________________________________________________ _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 30-Apr-1999 19:24:41-GMT,2560;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id NAA12871 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 13:24:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA20261; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 14:21:42 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 30 Apr 1999 14:18:27 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA20000; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 14:18:26 -0500 X-Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated X-Division: Core Technologies X-Department: Product Interoperability Analysis X-URL: Message-Id: <4.1.19990430121535.009d4180@mail-303> X-Sender: isaacs@mail-303 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 12:17:23 -0700 To: Susan Gertz From: Dov Isaacs Subject: Re: [PDF] font mapping when copying PDF text Cc: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> At 4/30/99 12:47 PM , Susan Gertz wrote: >We are creating some PDF files that users may be copying text out of using >Reader only (NOT Exchange). On Macs the text copies out OK. On PCs, some of >the characters are not mapping correctly and end up as garbage. A >Fontographer tech guy at Macromedia said to make sure to use fonts with >Adobe encoding (not custom), although this wasn't a guarantee of avoiding >the problem. > >Does anyone else have insight into this? Would avoiding subsetting of fonts >help? > >thanks > >Susan The problem may be resolved via distillation with Acrobat 4 if the original PostScript is generated with AdobePS 4.3 (to be released next week, possibly) on Windows'9X. The problem was usually one that occured only with TrueType as Type 42 fonts. - Dov _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 30-Apr-1999 19:34:43-GMT,1755;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id NAA13176 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 13:34:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA21402; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 14:32:21 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 30 Apr 1999 14:29:53 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA21075; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 14:29:51 -0500 Message-ID: <372A055D.E09C091C@dallas.net> Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 14:32:46 -0500 From: Tony Guerry Organization: KT Publishing X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] PDF back to Word?? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> What is the best way to go from PDF back to MS Word?? Is the formatting/fonts etc. taken with it?? Thanks, Tony _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 30-Apr-1999 21:44:12-GMT,3097;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id PAA17378 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 15:44:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA02306; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 16:37:56 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 30 Apr 1999 16:35:59 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA02092; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 16:35:57 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990430173748.008c08a0@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 17:37:48 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] advice for multimedia-type development in Acrobat In-Reply-To: References: <3.0.5.32.19990430111402.00993840@pop.iglou.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> >> >This sounds great. What is a good reference for learning how to create a >navigation button bar using PDFMark code? > Thomas Merz' book, Web Publishing with Acrobat/PDF is superb. ISBN 3-540-63762-1 He has at least one of the chapters on PDFMark posted on his site. Don't recall the link offhand (Thomas, are you there? ) but I've got a link to it on my site, http://www.rdpslides.com ... follow the link on the first page to Interesting Stuff. ;-) I've written an article or two about just this for Corel Draw Journal. You might be able to get a back issue from them. The way I do it in Draw is more or less: Create PDFMark EPS per Merz's examples, one EPS for each link I want to include in the nav bar (ie, Forward one page, Back one page, Index, etc). Make the bounding box 0 0 72 72 in the EPS. Draw the graphics for the buttons in Draw. Import each PDFMark EPS, position it over the button that will activate that particular link, scale the EPS so that it's the size of the button or a little bigger, then send it to the back so it's behind the button. Select the whole works and export it to EPS and import that into PM. Pretty magical, really. Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 30-Apr-1999 23:03:04-GMT,2635;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id RAA19738 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 17:03:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA08431; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 17:53:40 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 30 Apr 1999 17:51:34 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA08230; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 17:51:33 -0500 Message-Id: <4.2.0.37.19990430155332.00ace260@vbclown.com> X-Sender: vbclown@vbclown.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.37 (Beta) Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 15:54:21 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Jason Goldberg Subject: [PDF] 4.0 Form questions In-Reply-To: <199904302135.QAA02111@everglades.binc.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> I recently built some forms using Acrobat 4.0 for Windows. The forms where pretty straight forward, but I added a row of buttons along the bottom of the form: [Save Data] [Load Data] [Clear Data] [E-Mail Data] and [Print], [Save], [Load], and [Print] are implemented using the "Execute Menu Action"; [Clear] is a "reset form" action, and [E-Mai]l is a javascript: this.mailForm(false, "jasong@tscan.com", "", "", "Studio Request Data"); All the buttons work properly on my machine with Acrobat 4.0, unfortunately only [Clear] and [Print] work on machines that only have the 4.0 Reader installed. This isn't totally surprising, but it seems to greatly diminish the usefulness of PDF forms (they are only truly useful if all users own the full version of acrobat). Is there some alternative way to accomplish the functionality of these buttons that will work in the Reader? Am I missing something? Thanks, Jason jason@vbclown.com P.S. For my purposes the [Save], [Load], and [E-Mail] are intended to handle .fdf files. _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 1-May-1999 0:04:04-GMT,5533;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id SAA21507 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 18:04:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA13201; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 19:00:12 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 30 Apr 1999 18:58:30 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA13022; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 18:58:28 -0500 Date: 30 Apr 99 19:01:58 -0500 From: "Norman Leonard" Subject: RE: [PDF] 4.0 Form questions To: pdf X-Mailer: QuickMail Pro 1.5.4 (Mac) X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-Ascii" Message-Id: <19990430185217.33dabc0d.in@smtp.sevenww.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id SAA13016 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Reply to: RE: [PDF] 4.0 Form questions Adobe does offer a slimmed down version of Exchange for a smaller fee than the full version. This version would allow the import and export of form data information. It would not allow you to save any documents. I need to get more information on this product too. If there is someone out there from Adobe or 3rd party that knows more information about this, please post that soon. I totally agree that forms are cool and very useful, but Adobe is making enough money off Exchange and other products. If they were to think for a second, by simply including the import and export function into Reader, more and more developers will be looking at Acrobat instead of Director or the like to do interactive information exchange. Summery, ANYONE WITH INFORMATION ABOUT THE SLIMMED DOWN VERSION OF EXCHANGE, PLEASE POST YOUR INFORMATION SOON. THANKS. Jason Goldberg wrote: > ><- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> ><- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> > >I recently built some forms using Acrobat 4.0 for Windows. The forms where >pretty straight forward, but I added a row of buttons along the bottom of >the form: [Save Data] [Load Data] [Clear Data] [E-Mail Data] and [Print], > >[Save], [Load], and [Print] are implemented using the "Execute Menu >Action"; [Clear] is a "reset form" action, and [E-Mai]l is a javascript: > >this.mailForm(false, "jasong@tscan.com", "", "", "Studio Request Data"); > >All the buttons work properly on my machine with Acrobat 4.0, unfortunately >only [Clear] and [Print] work on machines that only have the 4.0 Reader >installed. This isn't totally surprising, but it seems to greatly diminish >the usefulness of PDF forms (they are only truly useful if all users own >the full version of acrobat). > >Is there some alternative way to accomplish the functionality of these >buttons that will work in the Reader? Am I missing something? > >Thanks, > >Jason >jason@vbclown.com > >P.S. For my purposes the [Save], [Load], and [E-Mail] are intended to >handle .fdf files. > >_____________________________________________________________ > > * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * > Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM > < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > > >RFC822 header >----------------------------------- > > From owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Fri Apr 30 17:50:23 1999 > Received: by smtp.sevenww.com from localhost > (router,QMProSrv V2.6); Fri, 30 Apr 1999 17:50:23 -0500 > Received: by smtp.sevenww.com from everglades.binc.net > (208.155.48.8::mail daemon; unverified,QMProSrv V2.6); Fri, 30 Apr >1999 17:50:23 -0500 > Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) > by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA08394; > Fri, 30 Apr 1999 17:52:57 -0500 > Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 30 Apr 1999 >17:51:34 -0500 > Received: (from majordom@localhost) > by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA08230; > Fri, 30 Apr 1999 17:51:33 -0500 > Message-Id: <4.2.0.37.19990430155332.00ace260@vbclown.com> > X-Sender: vbclown@vbclown.com > X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.37 (Beta) > Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 15:54:21 -0700 > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > From: Jason Goldberg > Subject: [PDF] 4.0 Form questions > In-Reply-To: <199904302135.QAA02111@everglades.binc.net> > Mime-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed > Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html > X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html > X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com > Norman J. Leonard Technical Solutions Developer Seven Worldwide 817 West Washington Chicago, IL 60607 nleonard@sevenww.com _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 1-May-1999 0:09:38-GMT,3085;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id SAA21640 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 18:09:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA13705; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 19:06:53 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 30 Apr 1999 19:05:43 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA13605; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 19:05:41 -0500 X-Sender: prodok@pop.eunet.ch Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.37.19990430155332.00ace260@vbclown.com> References: <199904302135.QAA02111@everglades.binc.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 1 May 1999 02:06:21 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Max Wyss Subject: Re: [PDF] 4.0 Form questions Cc: Jason Goldberg Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Jason, you don't miss anything. That's all the features allowed for the Reader. With Reader, you can submit form data to a CGI script, and that's about it. Check the JavaScript help file for which methods are actually reader enabled. Hope, this can help. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch WWW: http://www.prodok.ch/prodok [ Bridging the Knowledge Gap ] ______________________ >I recently built some forms using Acrobat 4.0 for Windows. The forms where >pretty straight forward, but I added a row of buttons along the bottom of >the form: [Save Data] [Load Data] [Clear Data] [E-Mail Data] and [Print], > >[Save], [Load], and [Print] are implemented using the "Execute Menu >Action"; [Clear] is a "reset form" action, and [E-Mai]l is a javascript: > >this.mailForm(false, "jasong@tscan.com", "", "", "Studio Request Data"); > >All the buttons work properly on my machine with Acrobat 4.0, unfortunately >only [Clear] and [Print] work on machines that only have the 4.0 Reader >installed. This isn't totally surprising, but it seems to greatly diminish >the usefulness of PDF forms (they are only truly useful if all users own >the full version of acrobat). > >Is there some alternative way to accomplish the functionality of these >buttons that will work in the Reader? Am I missing something? > >Thanks, > >Jason _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html > 1-May-1999 3:07:05-GMT,2829;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id VAA25824 for ; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 21:07:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA25120; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 22:00:25 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 30 Apr 1999 21:58:29 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA24933; Fri, 30 Apr 1999 21:58:28 -0500 Message-ID: <372A425E.35DEBF04@reporters.net> Date: Sat, 01 May 1999 07:53:02 +0800 From: "F. Marc de Piolenc" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] EPS Troubles References: <4.1.19990429084231.009e48d0@mail-303> <4.1.19990429094533.00a1d5f0@mail-303> <3.0.5.32.19990430113449.009929a0@pop.iglou.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com <- *NEW* - Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...-> <- ...via PDFzone.COM at -> Steve Rindsberg wrote: > Since you mention even the possibility of printing multipage files to EPS, > I'd assume this is under Win3.x since the Win95 and later PS drivers won't > even allow you to do that. It's NT Workstation 4.0, and I downloaded the latest Adobe driver for that OS and Win95. It does let you do multiple pages - at least that option is offered in the dialog box. > What version of VP, and what does it complain about when you try to import > the EPS files? It's 4.2 for Windows, and the complaint is that either the file format is not that specified or there wasn't enough memory or storage to complete the conversion. Note that nothing else I tried that accepts EPS accepts the files, either, so I don't think the problem is with Ventura. > I don't really remember all the details now, but I produced something like > 600 pages of documentation in VP (4.2 maybe? Don't even recall the > version) where each page had a printer-driver produced EPS on it. I know it can be done - I have EPS files from other sources in some of my documents. I just can't seem to do it myself. Marc de Piolenc Autodidactics http://www89.pair.com/techinfo _____________________________________________________________ * NOW AVAILABLE: Adobe Acrobat 4.0 ! * Upgrades ($99) & Full versions ($219) available via PDFzone.COM < http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/tool_Acrobat.html >