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> > Since you mention even the possibility of printing 
> multipage files to EPS,
> > I'd assume this is under Win3.x since the Win95 and later 
> PS drivers won't
> > even allow you to do that.
> 
> It's NT Workstation 4.0, and I downloaded the latest Adobe driver for
> that OS and Win95. It does let you do multiple pages - at least that
> option is offered in the dialog box.

It isn't clear from your posts - do you mean you ARE attempting to
create a multi-page EPS?  That will not work.

If not, try opening the unusable file in an editor. Look at the first
few lines - all starting with %! or %%. Post the first dozen or so
here.

On the other hand, Dov's suggestion to go through Acrobat is a good
one - and much more ON TOPIC!

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Steve Rindsberg <steve@rdpslides.com> wrote:
> He has at least one of the chapters on PDFMark posted on his site.  Don't
> recall the link offhand (Thomas, are you there? <g>)

Oops, trying to figure out new pdfmarks for Acrobat 4 :-)
See signature below for the link to the pdfmark primer.

> Import each PDFMark EPS, position it over the button that will activate
> that particular link, scale the EPS so that it's the size of the button or
> a little bigger, then send it to the back so it's behind the button.
> 
> Select the whole works and export it to EPS and import that into PM.

Let me add that depending on the graphics app used you have to
make sure the EPS import process doesn't actually interpret the
EPS, thereby killing the pdfmarks. In Illustrator, you'll have
to check the "Link" option in the "Place" dialog in order to
achieve this. In Corel Draw, I was told, you have to specify
a file type of "EPS" instead of "all files" to avoid the interpretation.
Since I don't work with Draw, maybe Steve can comment on this?

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Thomas Mertz wrote:
>
>Let me add that depending on the graphics app used you have to
>make sure the EPS import process doesn't actually interpret the
>EPS, thereby killing the pdfmarks. In Illustrator, you'll have
>to check the "Link" option in the "Place" dialog in order to
>achieve this. In Corel Draw, I was told, you have to specify
>a file type of "EPS" instead of "all files" to avoid the interpretation.
>Since I don't work with Draw, maybe Steve can comment on this?
>
Can anyone comment on Freehand?

Susan
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>Thanks for your comments. I have a question though. you said:
>>
>4) Watch out for implementing features that work in Exchange but fail in
>>Acrobat Reader.
>>ie. duplicating a button on multiple pages.
>>
>I tried this (using duplicate field), and it seems that all the buttons
>work in Reader 4.0. Am I missing something?


Susan, I might be missing something.

I am not into programming and so I try to find literature that explains how
to do a task and try and use it. I tried to create a "home" button on one
of my site's pdf bundles.  I used "Classroom in a book, Adobe Acrobat
(3.0), Lesson 8, adding buttons, page 184. It worked brilliantly, in
Exchange, but when I moved over to Reader the button links didn't operate.
I don't remember if the test failed off my hard drive or when I moved it on
the the web, (I should keep notes.) but it did fail.

So, I opted to create the links individually because it works reliably.

I really would rather create maps and not have to worry about issues that
should be covered by the stated objectives of the software-like, having
buttons work or page-by-page serving on the internet or having to help half
of my users install Acrobat Reader and the PDFviewer plugin properly into
their browser. (that includes people I rely on for technical support on
other issues)

I guess, I just don't have time to go back and try a task a second time
once its failed for me. (How often do we read "work around" in this
forum?") I need to spend up to 4 to 6 days creating a map like one at
http://www.travel-media.com/gvrdmaps/07025.pdf

and a month or more on tourist maps that can be found elsewhere on my site.
I just need software that does what it says it can do. And it is great that
people like Aandi steps in and help novices like me to get over technical
humps.

When I used PageMaker to create a 150 page catalogue with 3,000 links and
it failed I was extremely discouraged. (because of server side problems,
file format upload issues to the ftp, 8 hours of machine processing time to
convert the file to pdf, "the white screen of death", an extremly difficult
retro-fit of my original PageMaker file [which I haven't done] because the
sections bring all the anchors and sources from the original file to the
new files [I have thousands of lines of anchors and links that appear on 8
different sections of my files, most of it useless extra content.])

I am on a rant. Just realise that we have to test small first and research
the abilities of other organizations that we are relying on ISPs, Browser
manufacturers and even Adobe itself.

Angus

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Susan Gertz wrote...

...This sounds great. What is a good reference for learning how to create a
navigation button bar using PDFMark code?....

Hi

there are some really useful examples in the Acrobat 'Utility' folder (mainly transitions),
and more info is available in the document 'pdfmark.pdf' which installs with Acrobat.

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Aandi Inston wrote:

> > It's NT Workstation 4.0, and I downloaded the latest Adobe driver for
> > that OS and Win95. It does let you do multiple pages - at least that
> > option is offered in the dialog box.

> It isn't clear from your posts - do you mean you ARE attempting to
> create a multi-page EPS?  That will not work.

I am NOT trying to create a multipage file, but the Adobe generic driver
does seem to allow that to be done.

> If not, try opening the unusable file in an editor. Look at the first
> few lines - all starting with %! or %%. Post the first dozen or so
> here.

Here are the results of last night's attempt to implement Dov's
suggestion:

%!PS-Adobe-3.0 EPSF-3.0
%%Title: SEScalc.pdf
%%Creator: AdobePS5.dll Version 5.1
%%CreationDate: 5/1/1999 21:45:18
%%BoundingBox: 18 8 593 784
%%Pages: 1
%%Orientation: Portrait
%%PageOrder: Ascend
%%DocumentNeededResources: (atend)
%%DocumentSuppliedResources: (atend)
%%DocumentData: Clean7Bit
%%TargetDevice: (Default PostScript Printer) (2010.0) 2
%%LanguageLevel: 2
%%EndComments

 
> On the other hand, Dov's suggestion to go through Acrobat is a good
> one - and much more ON TOPIC!

Tried it last night, with the same result as before, unfortunately.

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Hello all:

A few days ago I posted a request for help analyzing why files distilled
from FrameMaker were a reasonable size in Acrobat 3, (76k) but suddenly
expanded (to about 340k) when I upgraded to Acrobat 4 (using identical
FrameMaker templates). The problem was correctly analyzed and solved by
James Bonacci at Adobe (thank you very much James!) Incidentally, I didn't
notice the problem initially because I was working with large files, now
that I have applied the suggestion quoted below, my resulting PDF's are 10
- 15% smaller than corresponding files using Distiller 3.02.

This is the useful information James passed on to me. Maybe it will help
others on this list.

>
>The most common reason that a PDF file size increases by
>about 300k is the use of ICC profiles. The default ICC profile,
>included in the PDF for PrintOptimized settings is about 300k.
>
>If you edit your job options and switch your color settings
>in the Color Tab to "Leave Color Unchanged", then your
>file size should shrink accordingly.
>

This worked perfectly. My files all shrinked (shrunk?) about 300k.

Jonathan.

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I've been having pretty consistent trouble printing pages with Captured
text on my PostScript printer. The spooler outputs all the data to the
printer, which simply sits there, displaying the word "WAITING," until
it times out without printing. This does not happen if I am printing an
image-only page, even in the same document. 

I decided that it was something to do with fonts, so I've been playing
with those options - download, substitute - with no improvement so far.

?????????????

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          Reply to:  Re: [PDF] advice for multimedia-type development in Acrobat
Did you have the fill-in plug-in (Acrofill) for Reader installed? If it wasn't in your Reader plug-ins folder the fields created in Exchange won't work.

weller wrote:
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>
>>Thanks for your comments. I have a question though. you said:
>>>
>>4) Watch out for implementing features that work in Exchange but fail in
>>>Acrobat Reader.
>>>ie. duplicating a button on multiple pages.
>>>
>>I tried this (using duplicate field), and it seems that all the buttons
>>work in Reader 4.0. Am I missing something?
>
>
>Susan, I might be missing something.
>
>I am not into programming and so I try to find literature that explains how
>to do a task and try and use it. I tried to create a "home" button on one
>of my site's pdf bundles.  I used "Classroom in a book, Adobe Acrobat
>(3.0), Lesson 8, adding buttons, page 184. It worked brilliantly, in
>Exchange, but when I moved over to Reader the button links didn't operate.
>I don't remember if the test failed off my hard drive or when I moved it on
>the the web, (I should keep notes.) but it did fail.
>
>So, I opted to create the links individually because it works reliably.
>
>I really would rather create maps and not have to worry about issues that
>should be covered by the stated objectives of the software-like, having
>buttons work or page-by-page serving on the internet or having to help half
>of my users install Acrobat Reader and the PDFviewer plugin properly into
>their browser. (that includes people I rely on for technical support on
>other issues)
>
>I guess, I just don't have time to go back and try a task a second time
>once its failed for me. (How often do we read "work around" in this
>forum?") I need to spend up to 4 to 6 days creating a map like one at
>http://www.travel-media.com/gvrdmaps/07025.pdf
>
>and a month or more on tourist maps that can be found elsewhere on my site.
>I just need software that does what it says it can do. And it is great that
>people like Aandi steps in and help novices like me to get over technical
>humps.
>
>When I used PageMaker to create a 150 page catalogue with 3,000 links and
>it failed I was extremely discouraged. (because of server side problems,
>file format upload issues to the ftp, 8 hours of machine processing time to
>convert the file to pdf, "the white screen of death", an extremly difficult
>retro-fit of my original PageMaker file [which I haven't done] because the
>sections bring all the anchors and sources from the original file to the
>new files [I have thousands of lines of anchors and links that appear on 8
>different sections of my files, most of it useless extra content.])
>
>I am on a rant. Just realise that we have to test small first and research
>the abilities of other organizations that we are relying on ISPs, Browser
>manufacturers and even Adobe itself.
>
>Angus
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Hi,

I have downloaded the acrobat reader from Adobe's site 3 times but
everytime that I attempt to install it I get the following message:

PackageForTheWeb error.

Any clues on how solve this problem ?

Regards

F. S. KAMAL
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Aandi,

> But it is a fact that many machines ship with drivers that are
> not the latest.
>
> Anyway, you can easily put this theory to the text. Just
> temporarily switch off video acceleration desktop -> right
> click -> properties -> settings -> advanced - -> performance
> -> slider all the way to the left -> OK -> reboot.

Turning off hardware acceleration makes no difference.


> Also, check the SMOOTH FONTS option.

Already tried unchecking Smooth Fonts; no change.

Joe



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Norman:

The product I believe you're referring to is Exchange VPP, which is a
somewhat scaled-down version of full Exchange.  VPP allows the user to save
partially and fully-completed PDF forms.  What it doesn't provide for is
the creation of new PDF documents.  About a year ago I bought 100 licenses
of VPP for around $39 each, which is a pretty fair middle ground between
the free Reader and full-blown Exchange.  I don't know, yet, however, about
a 4.0 VPP.

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>Adobe does offer a slimmed down version of Exchange for a smaller fee than
the full >version. This version would allow the import and export of form
data information. It would >not allow you to save any documents. I need to
get more information on this product too. >If there is someone out there
from Adobe or 3rd party that knows more information about >this, please
post that soon. I totally agree that forms are cool and very useful, but
>Adobe is making enough money off Exchange and other products. If they were
to think for a >second, by simply including the import and export function
into Reader, more and more >developers will be looking at Acrobat instead
of Director or the like to do interactive >information exchange.
>Summery, ANYONE WITH INFORMATION ABOUT THE SLIMMED DOWN VERSION OF
EXCHANGE, PLEASE POST >YOUR INFORMATION SOON. THANKS.


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Marc,

What it looks like you did was to print to the driver from
Acrobat. That is NOT what I suggested.

There is an explicit export EPS function from within Acrobat Exchange 3.0x
and Acrobat 4 that produces, 100% genuine, kosher EPS with preview.

	- Dov


At 5/1/99 07:02 PM , F. Marc de Piolenc wrote:
>Aandi Inston wrote:
>
>> > It's NT Workstation 4.0, and I downloaded the latest Adobe driver for
>> > that OS and Win95. It does let you do multiple pages - at least that
>> > option is offered in the dialog box.
>
>> It isn't clear from your posts - do you mean you ARE attempting to
>> create a multi-page EPS?  That will not work.
>
>I am NOT trying to create a multipage file, but the Adobe generic driver
>does seem to allow that to be done.
>
>> If not, try opening the unusable file in an editor. Look at the first
>> few lines - all starting with %! or %%. Post the first dozen or so
>> here.
>
>Here are the results of last night's attempt to implement Dov's
>suggestion:
>
>%!PS-Adobe-3.0 EPSF-3.0
>%%Title: SEScalc.pdf
>%%Creator: AdobePS5.dll Version 5.1
>%%CreationDate: 5/1/1999 21:45:18
>%%BoundingBox: 18 8 593 784
>%%Pages: 1
>%%Orientation: Portrait
>%%PageOrder: Ascend
>%%DocumentNeededResources: (atend)
>%%DocumentSuppliedResources: (atend)
>%%DocumentData: Clean7Bit
>%%TargetDevice: (Default PostScript Printer) (2010.0) 2
>%%LanguageLevel: 2
>%%EndComments
>
> 
>> On the other hand, Dov's suggestion to go through Acrobat is a good
>> one - and much more ON TOPIC!
>
>Tried it last night, with the same result as before, unfortunately.
>
>Best,
>Marc de Piolenc


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PDFZone,

Currently, I have subscriptions to PDFzone discussion mailing lists and it 
has contributed a great 
deal to my success with Adobe Acrobat 3.0 and my telecentre on-line 
resources.

On the PDFZone web site, I have search the said discussion mailing list 
archives with either 
date, thread or author. My questions are:

1.- What software/s is/are usually used to create this kind of archiving?
2.- Were the archives created solely with Adobe Acrobat 3.0 version?
3.- Any references to books or URL's for software product.

I want to create similar archiving in our Telecentre resources created with 
Adobe Acrobat 3.0. 
The said resources is access via Banyan network and in the future, it 
should be available with 
the intranet.

Basically, I just need an appreciation or a feeling of what it would imply 
for such a project.

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Simply copy the field (e.g. "a.1"), say by ctrl-dragging, and then with the
copy highlighted, click on the "+" key in your numeric keypad. The copy will
become "a.2"

> Could someone please refresh my memory on how to go about duplicating form
> fields such that the numerical designator of the original gets incremented
> upward in the cop(y)(ies).  Thanks.


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Can anyone shed any light on the use of the article properties function
within Acrobat.  I am sure I have read somewhere that catalog can index
articles such that the article title would appear in the search results
screen after running catalog and building an index.

I have tried it but the articles within  a file dont seem to register
only the tile of the complete document is shown when searched.  If this
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Hi Everyone,

The EPS export functionality did not ship in the Acrobat 3 for Windows.
It's a separate download from the Adobe web site at
http://www.adobe.com/supportservice/custsupport/LIBRARY/4f26.htm

So, Marc, if you didn't see it in your software, that's the reason.

Regards,
Sarah Rosenbaum - Adobe Systems

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>Marc,
>
>What it looks like you did was to print to the driver from
>Acrobat. That is NOT what I suggested.
>
>There is an explicit export EPS function from within Acrobat Exchange 3.0x
>and Acrobat 4 that produces, 100% genuine, kosher EPS with preview.
>
>	- Dov
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>
>At 5/1/99 07:02 PM , F. Marc de Piolenc wrote:
>>Aandi Inston wrote:
>>
>>> > It's NT Workstation 4.0, and I downloaded the latest Adobe driver for
>>> > that OS and Win95. It does let you do multiple pages - at least that
>>> > option is offered in the dialog box.
>>
>>> It isn't clear from your posts - do you mean you ARE attempting to
>>> create a multi-page EPS?  That will not work.
>>
>>I am NOT trying to create a multipage file, but the Adobe generic driver
>>does seem to allow that to be done.
>>
>>> If not, try opening the unusable file in an editor. Look at the first
>>> few lines - all starting with %! or %%. Post the first dozen or so
>>> here.
>>
>>Here are the results of last night's attempt to implement Dov's
>>suggestion:
>>
>>%!PS-Adobe-3.0 EPSF-3.0
>>%%Title: SEScalc.pdf
>>%%Creator: AdobePS5.dll Version 5.1
>>%%CreationDate: 5/1/1999 21:45:18
>>%%BoundingBox: 18 8 593 784
>>%%Pages: 1
>>%%Orientation: Portrait
>>%%PageOrder: Ascend
>>%%DocumentNeededResources: (atend)
>>%%DocumentSuppliedResources: (atend)
>>%%DocumentData: Clean7Bit
>>%%TargetDevice: (Default PostScript Printer) (2010.0) 2
>>%%LanguageLevel: 2
>>%%EndComments
>>
>> 
>>> On the other hand, Dov's suggestion to go through Acrobat is a good
>>> one - and much more ON TOPIC!
>>
>>Tried it last night, with the same result as before, unfortunately.
>>
>>Best,
>>Marc de Piolenc
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Could someone please refresh my memory on how to go about duplicating form
fields such that the numerical designator of the original gets incremented
upward in the cop(y)(ies).  Thanks.

Fred Orcutt
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> > If not, try opening the unusable file in an editor. Look at 
> the first
> > few lines - all starting with %! or %%. Post the first dozen or so
> > here.
> 
> Here are the results of last night's attempt to implement Dov's
> suggestion:
> 
> %!PS-Adobe-3.0 EPSF-3.0
> %%Title: SEScalc.pdf
> %%Creator: AdobePS5.dll Version 5.1
...

Ok, this is a valid EPS file, created by the driver. 

If it is being rejected, then the application is at fault.

One problem with older applications is that they sometimes look
at the version numbers on the first line (PS-Adobe-3.0 is 
Adobe document structuring 3.0; EPSF-3.0 is version 3.0 of the
EPS format).  

If you have a working EPS file, compare the first line, then
try setting the same version numbers in this EPS. If it works,
and no update to the software is available, you would have to
edit all your EPS files for use.

Aandi

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We are in the process of completing a demo for our marketing department
that will, over the internet, automatically insert data in an enrollment
form. The enrollment form is a PDF file that contains fields for last
name, birthdate, etc. and is stored on the server. The data to be
inserted is gathered by a script whose text is as follows:

#!/usr/bin/sh
#
echo "Content-type: application/vnd.fdf\n\n"
cat <<THEEND
%FDF-1.2

1 0 obj
<<
    /FDF << /fields [
      << /T (firstname) /V (Zorro)>>
    ]
    /F (http://www.someplace.com/test.pdf) >>
>>
endobj
trailer
<< /Root 1 0 R >>
%%EOF
THEEND

We have tested "http://www.someplace.com/test.pdf" and the browser
finds test.pdf and displays it in Reader. But when we run our script we
receive the error message "There was an error opening this document.
File does not begin with "%PDF" " and tries to download the script
itself. Oh gurus, what are we doing wrong? Of course the demo is suppose
to ship ASAP so we're getting rather desperate.

As an aside, we tried to define MIME type fdf for IE on Windows and for
the life of us could not find how to do it. As if all the MIMEs in the
world had headed for Venice Beach! DOes anyone know how? We only found
Internet Options under menu View and it did not contain anything for
file types.

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> We have tested "http://www.someplace.com/test.pdf" and the browser
> finds test.pdf and displays it in Reader. But when we run our script we
> receive the error message "There was an error opening this document.
> File does not begin with "%PDF" " and tries to download the script
> itself. Oh gurus, what are we doing wrong? Of course the demo is suppose
> to ship ASAP so we're getting rather desperate.
> 
> As an aside, we tried to define MIME type fdf for IE on Windows and for
> the life of us could not find how to do it. As if all the MIMEs in the
> world had headed for Venice Beach! DOes anyone know how? We only found
> Internet Options under menu View and it did not contain anything for
> file types.
> 

Read the "Acrobat Forms Systems Implementation Notes" at
http://www.adobe.com/prodindex/acrobat/formsresources.html to see how to
set the MIME type (page 4) for IE, as well as other useful information.

Also, make sure the FDF MIME type is properly configured on your server 
and use a viewer with the forms update (Reader 3.02 or 4.0).

To check your script, save an FDF that it creates and try linking to it
(e.g., http://www.someplace.com/test.fdf) to see if the FDF is valid.

I would advise against doing it this way, however, due to the problems
associated with incorrect client setup. In my experience, it is more
reliable to start with a PDF form with a submit button, which causes your
script to be launched and returns the FDF data to the same or another PDF
form. This is more reliable, in my experience, and has far fewer setup
headaches. This is explained in the Acrobat Forms System Implementation
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Hello F.S. Kamal,

> I have downloaded the acrobat reader from Adobe's site 3 times 
> ...

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Thank you. As idiotic as this sounds, it would not have occurred to me
to search your site for a fix - I have a lot to learn.

Best,
Marc

Sarah Rosenbaum wrote:

> 
> The EPS export functionality did not ship in the Acrobat 3 for Windows.
> It's a separate download from the Adobe web site at
> http://www.adobe.com/supportservice/custsupport/LIBRARY/4f26.htm
> 
> So, Marc, if you didn't see it in your software, that's the reason.

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Aandi Inston wrote:

> > Here are the results of last night's attempt to implement Dov's
> > suggestion:
> >
> > %!PS-Adobe-3.0 EPSF-3.0
> > %%Title: SEScalc.pdf
> > %%Creator: AdobePS5.dll Version 5.1
> ...
> 
> Ok, this is a valid EPS file, created by the driver.
> 
> If it is being rejected, then the application is at fault.

Ah, you mean the application importing the file. I'm not surprised - VP
has always been a little idiosyncratic.

> One problem with older applications is that they sometimes look
> at the version numbers on the first line (PS-Adobe-3.0 is
> Adobe document structuring 3.0; EPSF-3.0 is version 3.0 of the
> EPS format).
> 
> If you have a working EPS file, compare the first line, then
> try setting the same version numbers in this EPS. If it works,
> and no update to the software is available, you would have to
> edit all your EPS files for use.

Excellent! Thank you. Now I have plan A (the Adobe plug-in) and plan B
(your advice). I love this list...

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Hi everyone,

I hope that someone can help me with this problem.  I am getting quite
desperate to find an answer as I have to deliver PDF documents to a client
soon and the links will not work!

I have a considerable number of Word files that I client wants converted to
PDF format and uploaded to their website.  

First, I go through each document and change the existing hyperlinks to
links to other PDF files.  (These PDF files are yet to exist but as I
already know that the names will stay the same as their Word equivalents, I
manually change the extention to .pdf) I simply put the name of the file in
the "hyperlink to" box. No directories or path nominated.  The PDF files
that are the target of the link are on the same path but may be in another
subdirectory.  ie the Main directory is Manuals,  the first PDF file is in
Regulations under Manuals and the target PDF file is in Procedures under
Manuals.

Then I create PFD files from these Word documents using PDF Maker.  This
appears to work fine.  However, when I upload these files to the Web, the
web links do not work.  I receive an error message saying that the file can
not be located.  When I check the links in Acrobat Exchange, I see that the
ACTION of each link is GO TO VIEW.  If I manually change this to OPEN FILE
and save the file, upload it again to the Web, then the link will work.

As I have a considerably large number of files with many links, I would
like to find a way to get PDFMaker to automatically create links with an
OPEN FILE action.  Can anyone help me?  Do you think that this is why the
links do not work.

Thanks a lot
Ilana


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The title says most of it.

Thanks to: R.S. Davidson, Aandi Inston, Dov Isaacs, and at least one
other helpful person whose message I either misfiled or erased by
mistake.

The Adobe export plug-in worked, and with the preview option I can
actually see what VP sees, and what the printer is going to try to
render.

My project is back on track. I LOVE THIS LIST!

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Try IsysWeb fron www.isysdev.com

Regards

Hilton Holder
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We already have IIS Index Server on our corporate NT web server, but have
experienced inconsistent results when searching PDF files.  Sometimes it
works, sometimes it does not. 

Our I.T. Director has given me the nod to start evaluating third party web
search engines (such as Alta Vista, Excite, etc.). 

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I created a simple demo PDF file with two quicktime movies. The movies and
the PDF are in the same folder on a server. When I open the PDF and
activate the movies (from the server), they play fine. When my boss tried
this, she got an error message saying the movie file could not be found,
although the dialogue box that opened along with the message (to enable the
user to select and link the movie file) showed the correct file listed.

does anyone have any thoughts on this?

thanks!!

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MultiLinker will do what you need. Any links in to other Word documents are
converted automatically to the PDF extension, so that the links work right
between the PDF files after conversion.

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>Hi everyone,
>
>I hope that someone can help me with this problem.  I am getting quite
>desperate to find an answer as I have to deliver PDF documents to a client
>soon and the links will not work!
>
>I have a considerable number of Word files that I client wants converted to
>PDF format and uploaded to their website.
>
>First, I go through each document and change the existing hyperlinks to
>links to other PDF files.  (These PDF files are yet to exist but as I
>already know that the names will stay the same as their Word equivalents, I
>manually change the extention to .pdf) I simply put the name of the file in
>the "hyperlink to" box. No directories or path nominated.  The PDF files
>that are the target of the link are on the same path but may be in another
>subdirectory.  ie the Main directory is Manuals,  the first PDF file is in
>Regulations under Manuals and the target PDF file is in Procedures under
>Manuals.
>
>Then I create PFD files from these Word documents using PDF Maker.  This
>appears to work fine.  However, when I upload these files to the Web, the
>web links do not work.  I receive an error message saying that the file can
>not be located.  When I check the links in Acrobat Exchange, I see that the
>ACTION of each link is GO TO VIEW.  If I manually change this to OPEN FILE
>and save the file, upload it again to the Web, then the link will work.
>
>As I have a considerably large number of files with many links, I would
>like to find a way to get PDFMaker to automatically create links with an
>OPEN FILE action.  Can anyone help me?  Do you think that this is why the
>links do not work.
>
>Thanks a lot
>Ilana
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George Johnson wrote:

> 
> > We have tested "http://www.someplace.com/test.pdf" and the browser
> > finds test.pdf and displays it in Reader. But when we run our script we
> > receive the error message "There was an error opening this document.
> > File does not begin with "%PDF" " and tries to download the script
> > itself. Oh gurus, what are we doing wrong? Of course the demo is suppose
> > to ship ASAP so we're getting rather desperate.
> >
> > As an aside, we tried to define MIME type fdf for IE on Windows and for
> > the life of us could not find how to do it. As if all the MIMEs in the
> > world had headed for Venice Beach! DOes anyone know how? We only found
> > Internet Options under menu View and it did not contain anything for
> > file types.
> >
> 
> Read the "Acrobat Forms Systems Implementation Notes" at
> http://www.adobe.com/prodindex/acrobat/formsresources.html to see how to
> set the MIME type (page 4) for IE, as well as other useful information.

Thank you, yes, we have the documentation. And we followed the
instructions for setting the MIME type for IE on Windows, but the menus
they documented weren't there and we couldn't find any substitutes. Any
ideas?

> 
> Also, make sure the FDF MIME type is properly configured on your server
> and use a viewer with the forms update (Reader 3.02 or 4.0).

We are using Solaris 2.6 with all the current patches but our system
administrator does not have any documentation for establishing an FDF
MIME for our server. Can anyone point us to the right direction?

> 
> To check your script, save an FDF that it creates and try linking to it
> (e.g., http://www.someplace.com/test.fdf) to see if the FDF is valid.

Thanks again. We linked our script to the above URL and it came back
with an "IMAGEMAP ERROR".
Seems to indicate our server doesn't know about FDF files???

The client is a laptop that our marketing department uses so we have a
controlled environment and would really prefer populating a PDF form
without first calling up the form and submitting something. But, hey, at
this stage we'll do anything just to get some information back.

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>> 
>> Read the "Acrobat Forms Systems Implementation Notes" at
>> http://www.adobe.com/prodindex/acrobat/formsresources.html to see how to
>> set the MIME type (page 4) for IE, as well as other useful information.

>Thank you, yes, we have the documentation. And we followed the
>instructions for setting the MIME type for IE on Windows, but the menus
>they documented weren't there and we couldn't find any substitutes. Any
>ideas?

You set up MIME types for IE by setting the MIME types for Windows.  Open up
a folder view withing windows and select View/Folder Options...  Then select
the File Types tab.  You can then add application/vnd.fdf and make sure it's
opened with Acrobat.  Also, make sure your Weblink is setup within Acrobat
to point to IE as the web browser.

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>
>Oops, trying to figure out new pdfmarks for Acrobat 4 :-)
>See signature below for the link to the pdfmark primer.
>

Thanks!

>Let me add that depending on the graphics app used you have to
>make sure the EPS import process doesn't actually interpret the
>EPS, thereby killing the pdfmarks. In Illustrator, you'll have
>to check the "Link" option in the "Place" dialog in order to
>achieve this. In Corel Draw, I was told, you have to specify
>a file type of "EPS" instead of "all files" to avoid the interpretation.
>Since I don't work with Draw, maybe Steve can comment on this?

CorelDraw offers several ways of treating PS/EPS/AI and it's almost always
best to specify the correct file type (or "filter) for the result you're
after.

- PS Interpreted will interpret the PS/EPS into CorelDraw objects (and
you're correct, this won't work with PDFMark EPS)

- Encapsulated PostScript is the one you want for this.  It places EPS
rather than converting it in any way.

Also, some later versions of Draw let you either Open or Import various
forms of PS/EPS/AI.  It's necessary to choose File, Import rather than Open.


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Hi,

Thanks to those who helped me with the installation of acrobat reader. Now
it works well.

But I have a new problem and would like your help again:

Before installing the reader, whenever I clicked on a link with pdf file on
the web , the file was downloaded as a "normal ftp operation" and stored on
mt hdd. Now when I click the same link, the reader is launched and because
my pc is very slow I have to wait for quite a long time.

Is there any possibility of changing the settings so that the reader is not
launched every time a link with pdf file is clicked on the web. I want to
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then lauch the reader at a later stage.

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>>
>Can anyone comment on Freehand?
>

I think version 5 was the last time I used it, but it should be workable.

Basically, if you bring in an EPS with PDFMark code in it, there will
normally be nothing "imageable" to draw.

If you get a blank gray or white box (possibly with the name of the EPS
file and some other comments) in it, you're there.  If nothing shows up as
a result of importing the EPS, most likely it's because the importing app
has tried to interpret rather than just place the EPS and has found nothing
TO interpret.


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> Thank you, yes, we have the documentation. And we followed the
> instructions for setting the MIME type for IE on Windows, but the menus
> they documented weren't there and we couldn't find any substitutes. Any
> ideas?

I'll send you an e-mail with some screen captures of how you do this.

> We are using Solaris 2.6 with all the current patches but our system
> administrator does not have any documentation for establishing an FDF
> MIME for our server. Can anyone point us to the right direction?

If your server is producing the FDF programatically, then that program needs to
emit the MIME type (e.g. in Perl you would write: print "Content-type:
application/vnd.fdf\n\n";).

If the FDF is a static document, then the configuration depends on the web
server. For example, there might be a file called "mime.types", and in there you
would add a line that reads:
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Look at the comments at the beginning of an EPS file that *will* import
correctly and try editing one of your driver-created files to match.  For
now, I'd ignore all that memory error message stuff as it's probably just
typical Windows_throwing_red_herrings.  On the other hand, DO be certain
you're choosing the appropriate Files Of Type selection rather than letting
VP make the selection for you.

>
>Here are the results of last night's attempt to implement Dov's
>suggestion:
>
>%!PS-Adobe-3.0 EPSF-3.0
>%%Title: SEScalc.pdf
>%%Creator: AdobePS5.dll Version 5.1
>%%CreationDate: 5/1/1999 21:45:18
>%%BoundingBox: 18 8 593 784
>%%Pages: 1
>%%Orientation: Portrait
>%%PageOrder: Ascend
>%%DocumentNeededResources: (atend)
>%%DocumentSuppliedResources: (atend)
>%%DocumentData: Clean7Bit
>%%TargetDevice: (Default PostScript Printer) (2010.0) 2
>%%LanguageLevel: 2
>%%EndComments
>

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> > > As an aside, we tried to define MIME type fdf for IE on
> Windows and for
> > > the life of us could not find how to do it. As if all the MIMEs in the
> > > world had headed for Venice Beach! DOes anyone know how? We only found
> > > Internet Options under menu View and it did not contain anything for
> > > file types.
> > >
> >
> > Read the "Acrobat Forms Systems Implementation Notes" at
> > http://www.adobe.com/prodindex/acrobat/formsresources.html to see how to
> > set the MIME type (page 4) for IE, as well as other useful information.
>
> Thank you, yes, we have the documentation. And we followed the
> instructions for setting the MIME type for IE on Windows, but the menus
> they documented weren't there and we couldn't find any substitutes. Any
> ideas?

Just to clarify the documentation, you change the MIME type for IE by
opening Windows Explorer, not Internet Explorer. Follow the directions from
there.

> > Also, make sure the FDF MIME type is properly configured on your server
> > and use a viewer with the forms update (Reader 3.02 or 4.0).
>
> We are using Solaris 2.6 with all the current patches but our system
> administrator does not have any documentation for establishing an FDF
> MIME for our server. Can anyone point us to the right direction?

Try a Solaris newsgroup, or perhaps http://www.DejaNews.com

> > To check your script, save an FDF that it creates and try linking to it
> > (e.g., http://www.someplace.com/test.fdf) to see if the FDF is valid.
>
> Thanks again. We linked our script to the above URL and it came back
> with an "IMAGEMAP ERROR".
> Seems to indicate our server doesn't know about FDF files???

To clarify, create a static FDF file and place it on your server, and try
opening it in your browser ("http://www.someplace.com/test.fdf", not
"/test.pdf").

> The client is a laptop that our marketing department uses so we have a
> controlled environment

Good!



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>One problem with older applications is that they sometimes look
>at the version numbers on the first line (PS-Adobe-3.0 is 
>Adobe document structuring 3.0; EPSF-3.0 is version 3.0 of the
>EPS format).  
>

I see you've gotten here first.  

Some older apps also tended to get panicky when confronted with a perfectly
valid EPS whose comments weren't in precisely the expected (ie per Red Book
examples) order.  Some of the older INSO EPS export filters put two of the
usual comments in a slightly different order and as a result, PageMaker 5
would have nothing to do with them.  Change the order of the comments,
happy PM5.


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I like the Search97 engine that comes with ColdFusion App Server

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We already have IIS Index Server on our corporate NT web server, but have
experienced inconsistent results when searching PDF files.  Sometimes it
works, sometimes it does not.

Our I.T. Director has given me the nod to start evaluating third party web
search engines (such as Alta Vista, Excite, etc.).

Has anyone been down this road and have any recommendations or suggestions
on a search engine that will index PDF files reliably? Ease of use and
configuration would be a bonus.   Any help will be appreciated!

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I checked my registry settings and everything was fine except for the
InstallRoot entry.  Since I have SR1 loaded for Word 97 I also had a key of
InstallRootSR1.  I made the necessary edits to these keys and tried to
reinstall the PDFMaker component.  No success.  It seems to me that a
program that advertises compatibility with Office shouldn't require all this
rigmarole.  The average user would have no clue what to do with a registry
editor and I wouldn't want them to be accessing their registry anyhow.  It
is a very dangerous task to have someone undertake.  At this point I am
ready to scrap the PDFMaker option should it not work correctly, but it
makes preparing an instruction manual that much more difficult if the
program doesn't perform the installation correctly on every machine.  Some
customers will have it, some won't.  And I now have to address this in the
manual with regards to both the installation and creating a PDF.  I have
considered staying with Acro 3, but the few extra features in version 4 make
it worth the hassle.  I just keep wondering what other hassles lie ahead in
my product development with Acro 4.  YIKES!

Mike Abrahamson
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> Acrobat uses the registry to locate Office 97. It looks at about 4 or 5
> different locations within the registry to determine the location of the
> Word Startup folder and the Office 97 program folder. Here is the
> algorithm. Would you please check your registry to see where it fails?
>
> Office 97 algorithm:
>
> 1) Look in HKEY_CURRENT_USER:\Software\Microsoft\Office\8.0\Word\Options
>
>         Look for the named value STARTUP-PATH, does that string (if it
> exists) represent the StartupPath of Word 97?
>         Look for the named value PROGRAMDIR, does that string (if it
> exists) represent the path to Office 97?
>
> 2) Look in HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE:\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Office\8.0\New User
> Setttings\Word\Options.
>         Look for the named value STARTUP-PATH, does that string (if it
> exists) represent the StartupPath of Word 97?
>         Look for the named value PROGRAMDIR, does that string (if it
> exists) represent the path to Office97?
>
> 3) Look in
> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE:\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Office\8.0\Word\InstallRoot and
> look at the named value PATH. This path should be the path to Office 97.
> The path to the Word 97 startup folder will just add "\Startup" to the
> end of that path.
>
> 4) Look in
> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE:\SOFTWARE\Classes\Word.Document.8\AppRegistry. Look
> at the default named value. On my machine it is:
> \Software\Microsoft\Office\8.0\Word. Add InstallRoot to the end of this
> and do #3.
>
> 5) The Office97 folder and the Startup folder have to be writable.
>
> 6) If 1, 2, 3 and 4 fails, or 5 fails, the installer will NOT install
> PDFMaker.
>
>
> If the installer cannot find Office 97, it will not install any of the
> PDFMaker components (even in the macros folder) because PDFMaker will
> NOT work by manually moving files to the proper folders. There are lots
> of OLE registry entries that are required, and the installer really
> needs to do the installation of PDFMaker. Let me know what you find out.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Phil Ydens
> Engineering Manager, Adobe Acrobat
>
>
> Michael Abrahamson wrote:
>
> > I finally received my Acrobat 4 full version and am having a problem
> > with the install.  First of all, it says everywhere I read that the
> > PDFMaker macros are supposed to be automatically installed.
>
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>It's NT Workstation 4.0, and I downloaded the latest Adobe driver for
>that OS and Win95. It does let you do multiple pages - at least that
>option is offered in the dialog box.

Aha, must be a new feature, then.  Previous versions simply popped up a
message box, scolded you for attempting the impossible and let you cancel.
The Win3.x PS driver let you make EPS files that contained multiple pages.
Silly fool that it was. ;-)

>
>> What version of VP, and what does it complain about when you try to import
>> the EPS files?
>
>It's 4.2 for Windows, and the complaint is that either the file format
>is not that specified or there wasn't enough memory or storage to
>complete the conversion. Note that nothing else I tried that accepts EPS
>accepts the files, either, so I don't think the problem is with Ventura.
>

I just checked my notes on all this and unfortunately, they don't mention
which version of VP I was using at the time.  4.something, but possibly not
4.2

Can you post the first 20 or 30 lines of one of the EPS files here?

Sometimes apps make silly assumptions about what an EPS will necessarily
look like based on what the examples in the Red Book look like.


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> I checked my registry settings and everything was fine except for the
> InstallRoot entry.  Since I have SR1 loaded for Word 97 I 
> also had a key of
> InstallRootSR1.  I made the necessary edits to these keys and tried to
> reinstall the PDFMaker component.  No success.  It seems to me that a
> program that advertises compatibility with Office shouldn't 
> require all this
> rigmarole.  The average user would have no clue what to do 
> with a registry editor...

I think the whole point about this - and the reason we are hearing from
someone at Adobe - is that this isn't a known problem. If it was, you
wouldn't be being asked for supporting information.

Lots of people have installed it successfully. It would be valuable
to you, to Adobe, and to other future users to find out why on your
particular combination of systems it isn't working.

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We have an intranet with 100's of PDF files; Netscape
is the "official" browser.

When we were using Acrobat 3.0, the PDFs would load
in Netscape with the bookmarks automatically showing (they were
saved in Exchange with that display option specified).

We just installed the Acrobat 4.0 plugin. The PDF files
now display, but the bookmarks are not visible as a default.

Yes, I know that you can easily display the bookmarks by clicking
the Bookmark Display Toggle Button (or whatever) on the Acrobat 
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Is there a way to configure the Acrobat 4.0 plugin to display
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Good point, Andi.  In my attempt to be consumer-oriented I have reached a
level of dissatisfaction that even I know is unrealistic with a newly
released product.  I apologize for my brevity of patience.  I hope that we
are able to determine the cause of this problem.  Thanks, Andi, for showing
me the error of my ways.  :)

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> > I checked my registry settings and everything was fine except for the
> > InstallRoot entry.  Since I have SR1 loaded for Word 97 I
> > also had a key of
> > InstallRootSR1.  I made the necessary edits to these keys and tried to
> > reinstall the PDFMaker component.  No success.  It seems to me that a
> > program that advertises compatibility with Office shouldn't
> > require all this
> > rigmarole.  The average user would have no clue what to do
> > with a registry editor...
>
> I think the whole point about this - and the reason we are hearing from
> someone at Adobe - is that this isn't a known problem. If it was, you
> wouldn't be being asked for supporting information.
>
> Lots of people have installed it successfully. It would be valuable
> to you, to Adobe, and to other future users to find out why on your
> particular combination of systems it isn't working.
>
> Aandi
>
>
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I have a pdf file that prints fine on all our HP printers (ones configured
as PCL and with AdobePS4.24).
EXCEPT when I print to a HP4000N configured with AdobePS4.24, then there are
spaces interspersed with letters throughout the document. The pdf file looks
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Whatever the technical issues, AdobePS may not be used with
an HP 4000. It is licensed for use only with Adobe PostScript
printers.

Aandi

> I have a pdf file that prints fine on all our HP printers 
> (ones configured
> as PCL and with AdobePS4.24).
> EXCEPT when I print to a HP4000N configured with AdobePS4.24, 
> then there are
> spaces interspersed with letters throughout the document. The 
> pdf file looks
> perfect in the reader.  Any suggestions?

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At 5/4/99 02:02 PM , you wrote:
>I have a pdf file that prints fine on all our HP printers (ones configured
>as PCL and with AdobePS4.24).
>EXCEPT when I print to a HP4000N configured with AdobePS4.24, then there are
>spaces interspersed with letters throughout the document. The pdf file looks
>perfect in the reader.  Any suggestions?

Yes, stop using Adobe drivers with the HP4000. The license agreement that you
agree to when installing this driver clearly states that use of the driver is legally
limited to devices with Adobe PostScript. The HP4000 does NOT use Adobe PostScript.
It uses a clone that emulates PostScript. Sorry!

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> I have a pdf file that prints fine on all our HP printers 
> (ones configured
> as PCL and with AdobePS4.24).
> EXCEPT when I print to a HP4000N configured with AdobePS4.24, 
> then there are
> spaces interspersed with letters throughout the document. The 
> pdf file looks
> perfect in the reader.  Any suggestions?

We've seen this before on some HP's.  I suggest you update your printer
driver (from the HP website).  All should be made better.

Duff Johnson
President, Document Solutions, Inc.
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But I have a new problem and would like your help again:

Before installing the reader, whenever I clicked on a link with pdf file on
the web , the file was downloaded as a "normal ftp operation" and stored on
mt hdd. Now when I click the same link, the reader is launched and because
my pc is very slow I have to wait for quite a long time.

Is there any possibility of changing the settings so that the reader is not
launched every time a link with pdf file is clicked on the web. I want to
continue doanloading and saving the pdf files as a normal ftp operation and
then lauch the reader at a later stage.

Thanks in advance for your help.

Regards?

F. S. KAMAL

Here's your answer:

Delete the PDFViewer file from you web browser plug-in folder.  This little
goodie is what commands your browser to automatically open a PDF file,
rather than downloading it.

Rich

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> Look at the comments at the beginning of an EPS file that *will* import
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> now, I'd ignore all that memory error message stuff as it's probably just
> typical Windows_throwing_red_herrings.

Actually, thatX-Mozilla-Status: 0009rated by Ventura - I checked that.
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> Look at the comments at the beginning of an EPS file that *will* import
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> now, I'd ignore all that memory error message stuff as it's probably just
> typical Windows_throwing_red_herrings.

Actually, that error message is generated by Ventura - I checked that.
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Hello Allan,

> Is there a way to configure the Acrobat 4.0 plugin to display
> bookmarks as a default, or a work-around?

You might like to try re-saving the documents after having set them to
display with "Bookmarks and Page". You can alter this setting by opening
the document in Acrobat and selecting File, Document Info, Open.

If you have Acrobat 4.0 (which it seems you do), you can alter this on a
batch of documents using the Open Info settings. Take a look under File,
Batch Process.

I hope this helps.

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Hi everyone,

Today I upgraded Acrobat 3 to Acrobat 4.0.
Everything seems to work well, only
one thing very important for me is missing:
The Distiller does not use Epilogue.ps when distilling a
ps file despite this job option is active. 
(I am using it for cropping pages)
I used same structure of my watch directory
as I used to do with Acrobat 3.1 and the same Epilogue.ps file.

Here are my Distiller settings:
Watch folder: E:\Osvit
Job Options Advanced: Use Prologue.ps and Epilogue.ps is marked
Epilogue.ps file is in directory E:\Osvit

Am I missing something?

Thank you in advance

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Greetings all!

I have a large number of large (over 3 MB) PDF files that I need to split
into linked file1.pdf, file2.pdf, etc.  I've seen the web site for Ari's PDF
toolbox, including his PDF splitter.  Has anyone used it, and did it work
for you?  I'd like to know before shelling out $349...

TIA,

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Hello Steven,

> I've seen the web site for Ari's PDF toolbox, including his PDF
splitter. 

You may like to contact Ari directly via e-mail at info@Dionis.com (you
will find Ari to be most helpful).

He may be able to provide with you with some form of demonstration
version of his software and perhaps some feedback from other users.

regards,

Karl De Abrew
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I create PDFs on a Mac by Distilling Quark PS using 3.0.2. All fonts are 
embedded and subsetted Type 1. Most of my "users" are running Windows 95 or
98 and using Reader 3.0.1 (some with 4.0).

For most everyone, all files display and print just fine. But I have a
couple of users that when they open the PDF file, all the text appears like
some Dingbat or Wingdings font face. I'm at a loss to figure out why these
few users have this trouble, since they have installed Reader the same as
everyone else has. It's happened with both a Reader versions 3.0.1 and 4.0.

Could it be ATM related? Any help or direction is appreciated. Thanks.

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I'm in the process of creating a large number of accounting forms which
will include simple autocalculation of totals based on numerical data
entries in select fields.  However, I'm running into a bizarre problem
which I need help solving, as I must be consistently overlooking something
very simple.  Here is a description:

I have created, say, 18 form fields for data entry.  They are labelled
amt.0 through amt.17, and are all clones except for the label.  They are
all set  as follows:

Type = text;
Format = Number;
Decimal Places = None;
Currency Symbol = $;
Separator Style = Comma;
Negative # style = (xxxx);
Validation = None;
Calculation = None;
Mouse Action = None;
Options = Align Right, no other selections made;
Appearance = Pale Yellow solid background; no border; Helvetica font -
Autosize; Common Properties -- None checked.

 The 19th field is the Total field (located on the same page), labelled
Total.0, and has these characteristics:

Type = text;
Format = Number;
Decimal Places = None;
Currency Symbol = $;
Separator Style = Comma;
Negative # style = (xxxx);
Validation = None;
Calculation = "Value is sum of amt.0, amt.1, amt.2, .... amt.17", all
picked from list of field labels and all verified.
Mouse Action = None;
Options = Align Right, no other selections made;
Appearance = No background; no border; Helvetica font - Autosize; Common
Properties -- Read Only.

Here's the problem:

The autocalculation works well, except when 10-digit numbers (i.e.,
billions) are used.  In such case, the total will often be shown as a large
negative number, even though no negatives were inputted into the data entry
fields.  For example, inputting 1,646,457,469 in field amt.1 will show as
$1,646,457,469 in that field, but will show as ($501,026,179) in Total.0.
It doesn't seem to matter wha, if anything,  is entered in the other amt.x
fields, or what quantity.  As long as there is at least one 10-digit entry
in one of the amt fields that has other than 9 zeroes as part of the entry,
the result will be what appears to be a 9-digit random negative number in
Total.0.  Very strange!

FYI, here's what shows for the javascript for Total.0 (although as stated I
picked from the list and let Exchange handle the scripting):

AFSimple_Calculate("SUM", "amt.0, amt.1, amt.2, amt.3, amt.4, amt.5, amt.6,
amt.7, amt.8, amt.9, amt.10, amt.11, amt.12, amt.13, amt.14, amt.15,
amt.16, amt.17");

I could use some help with this ASAP.  Thanks much and in advance!

Fred Orcutt
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I am trying to find a way of automating a very lengthy process.

We are currently creating Access Snapshot files from a command line within
Access.  Once the SNP files are created, we then open them in the Snapshot
viewer and print them to the Adobe PDF Writer.  There are 30 reports each
month that have to be converted this way, and once that is complete, the
files are then merged into one PDF.  

Does anyone know of a way to automate this process, either in one step, or
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Roberta Pavlo wrote:

>          Reply to:  Re: [PDF] advice for multimedia-type development in
>Acrobat
>Did you have the fill-in plug-in (Acrofill) for Reader installed? If it
>wasn't in your Reader plug-ins folder the fields created in Exchange won't
>work.

        Are you trying to tell me that 30 to 50 million Acrobat Reader
users are going to have to either invest in Acrobat Exchange or go
searching for a plugin to make PDF sites work on the internet.


"NO WAY!"

They are going to move on.

Exchange is supposed to let us create sites that work for our users.

"IT'S CALLED CUSTOMER SERVICE AND ADOBE SHOULD GIVE US MORE BY MAKING SURE
ACROBAT READER IS INSTALLED WITH EVERY BROWSER AND WORKING PROPERLY. (IE,
THE DEFAULT SETTING SHOULD BE ACOBAT READER WORKS EVERYTIME AND YOU HAVE TO
TURN IT "OFF" NOT TURN IT "ON".)"

Sorry for shouting but come on make it easier not harder. I work with
elementary school children and novice computer users and they get
frustrated fast and as I wrote before even people I user for technical
support find it difficult to set up machines to read "PDF" files on the
Net.

Using PDF in a browser has to be as easy as using the Browser itself.

Angus

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Hello all,

I am having trouble scanning Annual Reports into PDF format for use on our Intranet.  When I scan these reports in, the screen resolution is not clear, but the printed version is fine.  Also the file size is always way too large for the web.  I have been scanning the pages into Photoshop, and then saving them as PDFs.  Is there a particular procedure or setting that works best?  Any advice or help on this would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks 
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          Reply to:  Re: [PDF] advice for multimedia-type development in Acrobat
No need to shout.

I was just trying to help.

Maybe you need to do your pages in HTML instead then you won't need to be concerned with PDF browser plug-ins (which allow the browser to open Reader that is installed on your system) or the Acrobat Reader installer itself.

weller wrote:
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>
>Roberta Pavlo wrote:
>
>>          Reply to:  Re: [PDF] advice for multimedia-type development in
>>Acrobat
>>Did you have the fill-in plug-in (Acrofill) for Reader installed? If it
>>wasn't in your Reader plug-ins folder the fields created in Exchange won't
>>work.
>
>        Are you trying to tell me that 30 to 50 million Acrobat Reader
>users are going to have to either invest in Acrobat Exchange or go
>searching for a plugin to make PDF sites work on the internet.
>
>
>"NO WAY!"
>
>They are going to move on.
>
>Exchange is supposed to let us create sites that work for our users.
>
>"IT'S CALLED CUSTOMER SERVICE AND ADOBE SHOULD GIVE US MORE BY MAKING SURE
>ACROBAT READER IS INSTALLED WITH EVERY BROWSER AND WORKING PROPERLY. (IE,
>THE DEFAULT SETTING SHOULD BE ACOBAT READER WORKS EVERYTIME AND YOU HAVE TO
>TURN IT "OFF" NOT TURN IT "ON".)"
>
>Sorry for shouting but come on make it easier not harder. I work with
>elementary school children and novice computer users and they get
>frustrated fast and as I wrote before even people I user for technical
>support find it difficult to set up machines to read "PDF" files on the
>Net.
>
>Using PDF in a browser has to be as easy as using the Browser itself.
>
>Angus
>
>*************************************
>
>Angus Weller
>6268 129th St.,
>Surrey, British Columbia,
>Canada, V3X 1S6
>
>Tel: (604) 591-5192
>
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>travel-media@bc1.com
>
>Internet store: www.travel-media.com
>
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> The autocalculation works well, except when 10-digit numbers (i.e.,
> billions) are used.  In such case, the total will often be shown
> as a large
> negative number, even though no negatives were inputted into the
> data entry
> fields.  For example, inputting 1,646,457,469 in field amt.1 will show as
> $1,646,457,469 in that field, but will show as ($501,026,179) in Total.0.
> It doesn't seem to matter wha, if anything,  is entered in the other amt.x
> fields, or what quantity.  As long as there is at least one 10-digit entry
> in one of the amt fields that has other than 9 zeroes as part of
> the entry,
> the result will be what appears to be a 9-digit random negative number in
> Total.0.  Very strange!

When I tested it, it showed the symptoms you're seeing if a value is from
1073741824 to 2147483647. Note that the funtion "AFSimple_Calculate" in
"AForm.js" is used to perform the calculation. There must be a bug in this
routine or one of the routines that it calls. As a workaround, you may want
to perform a simple addition of all the fields in a custom calculation
script.


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> > The autocalculation works well, except when 10-digit numbers (i.e.,
> > billions) are used.  In such case, the total will often be shown
> > as a large
> > negative number, even though no negatives were inputted into the
> > data entry
> > fields.  For example, inputting 1,646,457,469 in field amt.1
> will show as
> > $1,646,457,469 in that field, but will show as ($501,026,179)
> in Total.0.
> > It doesn't seem to matter wha, if anything,  is entered in the
> other amt.x
> > fields, or what quantity.  As long as there is at least one
> 10-digit entry
> > in one of the amt fields that has other than 9 zeroes as part of
> > the entry,
> > the result will be what appears to be a 9-digit random negative
> number in
> > Total.0.  Very strange!
>
> When I tested it, it showed the symptoms you're seeing if a value is from
> 1073741824 to 2147483647. Note that the funtion "AFSimple_Calculate" in
> "AForm.js" is used to perform the calculation. There must be a bug in this
> routine or one of the routines that it calls. As a workaround,
> you may want
> to perform a simple addition of all the fields in a custom calculation
> script.
>

Unfortunately, this doesn't work either. And the same thing happens with
Acrobat 4.


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George:

Thank you for taking the time to test this out.  I tested by opening a
number of other forms of various ages and had the same results.

I do hope there is a quick-and-dirty fix for this that someone (Adobe??)
can offer.  I'm getting 20+ forms ready for nearly a hundred state agencies
to use to officially report their fiscal year end accounting information,
to be accessed via the internet and transmitted back to our auditors.  As
part of this pilot I'll be deploying 100 licenses of VPP to those agencies
so they can effectively work with those forms in a paperless manner.  It
ain't gonna look too good if it don't work right.

Fred Orcutt



> > The autocalculation works well, except when 10-digit numbers (i.e.,
> > billions) are used.  In such case, the total will often be shown
> > as a large
> > negative number, even though no negatives were inputted into the
> > data entry
> > fields.  For example, inputting 1,646,457,469 in field amt.1
> will show as
> > $1,646,457,469 in that field, but will show as ($501,026,179)
> in Total.0.
> > It doesn't seem to matter wha, if anything,  is entered in the
> other amt.x
> > fields, or what quantity.  As long as there is at least one
> 10-digit entry
> > in one of the amt fields that has other than 9 zeroes as part of
> > the entry,
> > the result will be what appears to be a 9-digit random negative
> number in
> > Total.0.  Very strange!
>
> When I tested it, it showed the symptoms you're seeing if a value is from
> 1073741824 to 2147483647. Note that the funtion "AFSimple_Calculate" in
> "AForm.js" is used to perform the calculation. There must be a bug in
this
> routine or one of the routines that it calls. As a workaround,
> you may want
> to perform a simple addition of all the fields in a custom calculation
> script.
>
Unfortunately, this doesn't work either. And the same thing happens with
Acrobat 4.

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Hi you all

I require some functionality not related to PDF, but nevertheless hoping someone would know of anything out there?

I need to recognise barcodes on G4 Tiffs and then replace the filename with the recognised code.

Any pointers would be hugely appreciated .

Thanks

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What is a G4 Tiff?

> I need to recognise barcodes on G4 Tiffs and then replace the filename with the recognised code.


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Substituting the following custom vanilla javascript for the
'AFSimple_Calculate' in the Field Properties has the same results, with an
interesting twist (as pointed out by Norman Leonard):  If you input
1,646,457,469 into "input0" and 501,026,179 into "input1" the script
returns a value of 0; if you input 501,026,179 instead into "input2" or
"input3" the script returns (501,026,179,501,026,180).

var input0 = this.getField ("input0");
var input1 = this.getField ("input1");
var input2 = this.getField ("input2");
var input3 = this.getField ("input3");
event.value = input0.value + input1.value + input2.value + input3.value;

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> I do hope there is a quick-and-dirty fix for this that someone (Adobe??)
> can offer.  I'm getting 20+ forms ready for nearly a hundred
> state agencies
> to use to officially report their fiscal year end accounting information,
> to be accessed via the internet and transmitted back to our auditors.  As
> part of this pilot I'll be deploying 100 licenses of VPP to those agencies
> so they can effectively work with those forms in a paperless manner.  It
> ain't gonna look too good if it don't work right.

I the limited testing I've done, it appears that JavaScript has difficulties
dealing with integer values from 2^30 to 2^31 - 1. It seems an integer n
between 2^30 and (2^31 - 1) is operated on as though it were (n - 2^31). The
definitive fix probably will not be quick, but that's speculation.

For a quick and dirty workaround, be sure to type a decimal point after the
last number. You may be able to use a custom format script or keystroke
script to help out here.


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Roberta

I know everyone is trying to help on this site but I hope Adobe's people
are monitoring our efforts and will fix or increase the functionality of
their web plug-in.

The plug-in you're mentioning doesn't seem to ship with Acrobat Reader and
if it fails to make reader work then it should.

As for creating pages in html why don't you visit
<http://www.travel-media.com/gvrdmaps/07025.pdf> or the key map associated
with this site.

There is virtually no way that these pages could be created in html. There
is another alternative "Shockwave Flash" Macromedia's product.

I have opted for Illustrator from "88" to the present and want to stay with
Adobe products but I know that the end user needs this product "Reader" to
work seamlessly.

Every other online publisher using this product needs this product to work
seamlessly.
After all the advertising says the quickest way to publish anything on the Web.

I've made my site work quite well but have had to avoid using some of the
short cuts that are supposed to work. Like, using PageMaker and its links
palette or duplicating buttons over multiple pages in Exchange.

When I started making maps in Illustrator 1989 I was told it couldn't be
done, perhaps I am on the bleeding edge of this technology when it comes to
my industry.

Angus

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> Hello all,
> 
> I am having trouble scanning Annual Reports into PDF format for use on our
> Intranet.  When I scan these reports in, the screen resolution is not
> clear, but the printed version is fine.  Also the file size is always way
> too large for the web.  I have been scanning the pages into Photoshop, and
> then saving them as PDFs.  Is there a particular procedure or setting that
> works best?  Any advice or help on this would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks
> -shane
> sstiles@cme.com
>
> ~@~@~@~@~@~@~@~@~@~@~@~@~@~
> Shane Stiles - Internet Developer, MCP
> Chicago Mercantile Exchange

Shane:

The rule of thumb is that you only need 72 dpi for the web, 600 dpi for
document printing and 2400 dpi for high-end pre-press work. You kind of have
to fool around until you get settings you are comfortable with.

For the web I personally use 72 dpi for the downsampling, or scan in at that
resolution, and jpg-medium quality with zip for compression. I always use
the acquire function with my scanner, cause I like the scanner driver. With
an 8 1/2 x 11 page, this gave me a file size of 111k on a Mac.

I just scanned in a full page cover, with some 14 pt blue type. Looked great
on screen. It didn't print too badly, either.

Remember, Adobe did a weird one on us. The jpeg/low means low compression
and is the highest quality.

Good luck.

Rich

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My company was considering what you are trying.  For one it sounds like we
both have the same limited amount of hardware and software (i.e. do you have
Capture 2.0?)

We realised that to make the annual reports usable on the net we had to
capture the text and convert as much of the TIFF image into "real" text.
Using Exchanges' Capture 1.0 just will not produce acceptable results
(believe me we REALLY tried).  Simply scanning to PDF without capturing, no
matter what your settings, is going to result in enormous files sizes as you
probably saw already.

I would strongly recommend you look at Capture 2.0.  It produces excellent
results, provides for excellent controls and edit functions, and is geared
for BIG jobs.  The amount of investment you'll need in terms of a Capture
license with per page dongle (each scan cost a few cents), hardware and
manpower will probably make contracting the job out to a scanning bureau
more attractive.  I think if you just ask for some quotes on this list
server you'll probably get ALL the info you need in about 10 minutes!

Would you mind contacting me privately to let me know how it goes..... :)

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>
> > Hello all,
> >
> > I am having trouble scanning Annual Reports into PDF format for use on
our
> > Intranet.  When I scan these reports in, the screen resolution is not
> > clear, but the printed version is fine.  Also the file size is always
way
> > too large for the web.  I have been scanning the pages into Photoshop,
and
> > then saving them as PDFs.  Is there a particular procedure or setting
that
> > works best?  Any advice or help on this would be greatly appreciated.
> >
> > Thanks
> > -shane
> > sstiles@cme.com
> >
> > ~@~@~@~@~@~@~@~@~@~@~@~@~@~
> > Shane Stiles - Internet Developer, MCP
> > Chicago Mercantile Exchange
>
> Shane:
>
> The rule of thumb is that you only need 72 dpi for the web, 600 dpi for
> document printing and 2400 dpi for high-end pre-press work. You kind of
have
> to fool around until you get settings you are comfortable with.
>
> For the web I personally use 72 dpi for the downsampling, or scan in at
that
> resolution, and jpg-medium quality with zip for compression. I always use
> the acquire function with my scanner, cause I like the scanner driver.
With
> an 8 1/2 x 11 page, this gave me a file size of 111k on a Mac.
>
> I just scanned in a full page cover, with some 14 pt blue type. Looked
great
> on screen. It didn't print too badly, either.
>
> Remember, Adobe did a weird one on us. The jpeg/low means low compression
> and is the highest quality.
>
> Good luck.
>
> Rich
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------
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> (480) 860-0050                        richsprague@inficad.com
> Check out my new website: http://www.inficad.com/~richsprague
> -------------------------------------------------------------
>
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At the Adobe site there is a document that describes Interapplication
Communication with Acrobat...
Automation control of Acrobat from Visual Basic....
and another document that describes controlling PDFWriter...

An aside... there's probably no need to produce snapshots of the Access
reports... just print to PDFWriter...

In general here's what you need to do...
Set the default printer to PDFWriter...
Do For Each Report
	Define a temporary file to PDFWriter...to eliminate 	Save As dialog box.

	Run the report...which will be saved to the temporary file.
EndDo

Open the Single File with Automation...
Do for Each Temporary File...
	Use Automation to open Temporary File and append them to Single File

	Use Automation to close Temporary File.

	Delete the Temporary File.
EndDo
Close the Single File with Automation...

Questions, email me...

Dan.




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> I am trying to find a way of automating a very lengthy process.
>
> We are currently creating Access Snapshot files from a command line within
> Access.  Once the SNP files are created, we then open them in the Snapshot
> viewer and print them to the Adobe PDF Writer.  There are 30 reports each
> month that have to be converted this way, and once that is complete, the
> files are then merged into one PDF.
>
> Does anyone know of a way to automate this process, either in one step, or
> several steps to make this an easier process?
>
> Any feedback is greatly appreciated.
>
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James,

thank you very much for your clear and excelent
explanation of how to set up Distiller.
I can use my Epilogue.ps files now.

BTW I don't understand why Adobe changed this
setting from Acrobat 3 to Acrobat 4.0, and why
it is neccesary now to have BOTH prologue.ps
and epilogue.ps files in the watch folder.

Furthermore, why is there no information about it in
Adobe Acrobat Guide (on page 164 there is a similar text
as there was in the Guide for Adobe Acrobat 3)?

I greatly appreciate your help which saves
me a lot of time.

Thank you once more.

Best regards,

Bohumir

Document Data Services
valter@uochb.cas.cz

>Bohumir,

>Distiller 4.0 will not run an epilogue.ps file if there is
>no corresponding prologue.ps file. You must have
>both available in order for Distiller 4.0 to use them.

>For normal Distiller use (File>Open and drag and
>drop), set the job option in the Advanced job options
>menu. Distiller will look for prologue.ps and
>epilogue.ps in the \Distillr\Data folder. If it finds
>both, it will run both. If it finds only one, it will
>not run that file.

>For watched folders, set the job option in the
>Advanced job options menu for watched folders.
>Distiller will now look for prologue.ps and
>epilogue.ps in your watched folder at the same
>directory level as In and Out. If it finds both,
>then it will run both. If it finds only one, it
>will run neither.
>The prologue.ps and epilogue.ps files in the
>watched folder will take precedence over the
>ones in the Data folder.

>If you only want to use epilogue.ps, then you
>must make prologue.ps an "empty" PS file.
>That is, leave the header alone, but take out
>or comment out any PS code. So you will,
>in effect, but running a prologue.ps that does
>nothing in order to run your epilogue.ps file
>that performs your tasks.

>Hope this helps.

>James

>James A. Bonacci
>Senior Quality Engineering Project Lead
>Adobe Systems Incorporated
>(408) 536-4669
>jabonacc@adobe.com


>>Hi everyone,

>>Today I upgraded Acrobat 3 to Acrobat 4.0.
>>Everything seems to work well, only
>>one thing very important for me is missing:
>>The Distiller does not use Epilogue.ps when distilling a
>>ps file despite this job option is active. 
>>(I am using it for cropping pages)
>>I used same structure of my watch directory
>>as I used to do with Acrobat 3.1 and the same Epilogue.ps file.

>>Here are my Distiller settings:
>>Watch folder: E:\Osvit
>>Job Options Advanced: Use Prologue.ps and Epilogue.ps is marked
>>Epilogue.ps file is in directory E:\Osvit

>>Am I missing something?

>>Thank you in advance

>>Bohumir Valter
>>Document Data Services



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Hi,
The problem we are facing is this: 
We have 350 PDF files with 40 - 70 pages each. We are adding a "homepage"
and some other general pages.
I want to add a possibilitity for the users to get back to the "homepage"
by clicking some navigation button or similar, wherever he is on any page
on any of these files.
Best would be if I could add a row of icons or similar into the reader,
with link to the homepage and some other pages, already when the user opens
the homepage the first time, but suppose that is not doable.
So, my question is, is there a way to add the same button on all pages on
all files via a batch process? And of course that button should not print
if document is printed.

We run Acrobat 4 and 3, and to me it seemes as there are some new
restrictions in 4. In Acrobat 3 we could add a button "outside" the
document, in the gray area, and also set it as don't print. Cannot find
that in 4.

Thanx for your help

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I am not sure I agree with you. We do use Capture 2.0, but for annual
reports it has been no success (not for any color processing). Instead we
use a combination of our own software, and off the shelf software in order
to create the optimal PDF file.

The major problems is with background images with text on it. The rest
(text, photos, graphs, tables etc) is just a matter of having the right
tools and processes. A general recommendation is that you should scan the
images with as high resolution as possible (we use 400-600) since that
creates the smallest files. The better the quality is of a scanned image,
the smaller the file is when compressing it.

Background images where you have text is the worst part. We have tried a
lot of different softwares, but none work too very well. Sometimes we
choose to keep those as "image and text", but generally that makes to large
files. Most of the time we scan the image in high resolution, fix it in
Photoshop and puts it in back of the PDF. To be able to use OCR on these
pages, we scan it also in b/w an fix it using Fix programs, run OCR and
edit manually. This way we keep the size down.

For graphs etc, we vectorise sometimes to get size down. There are some
software that helps you in doing this, but very often it is better to just
open the scanned image in Illustrator (or similar) and use it as "template"
to create the graph manually.

I suppose all this sounds very timeconsuming, and it usually is. We have
done this for nearly 4 years now, so our personnel is very good at it as is
our programs and working methods. 

If you want a quate for doing your report(s), please contact us via email.
We do this type of work to customers all around the world.

John
pdf@intern1.com

 

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>My company was considering what you are trying.  For one it sounds like we
>both have the same limited amount of hardware and software (i.e. do you have
>Capture 2.0?)
>
>We realised that to make the annual reports usable on the net we had to
>capture the text and convert as much of the TIFF image into "real" text.
>Using Exchanges' Capture 1.0 just will not produce acceptable results
>(believe me we REALLY tried).  Simply scanning to PDF without capturing, no
>matter what your settings, is going to result in enormous files sizes as you
>probably saw already.
>
>I would strongly recommend you look at Capture 2.0.  It produces excellent
>results, provides for excellent controls and edit functions, and is geared
>for BIG jobs.  The amount of investment you'll need in terms of a Capture
>license with per page dongle (each scan cost a few cents), hardware and
>manpower will probably make contracting the job out to a scanning bureau
>more attractive.  I think if you just ask for some quotes on this list
>server you'll probably get ALL the info you need in about 10 minutes!
>
>Would you mind contacting me privately to let me know how it goes..... :)
>
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>> > Hello all,
>> >
>> > I am having trouble scanning Annual Reports into PDF format for use on
>our
>> > Intranet.  When I scan these reports in, the screen resolution is not
>> > clear, but the printed version is fine.  Also the file size is always
>way
>> > too large for the web.  I have been scanning the pages into Photoshop,
>and
>> > then saving them as PDFs.  Is there a particular procedure or setting
>that
>> > works best?  Any advice or help on this would be greatly appreciated.
>> >
>> > Thanks
>> > -shane
>> > sstiles@cme.com
>> >
>> > ~@~@~@~@~@~@~@~@~@~@~@~@~@~
>> > Shane Stiles - Internet Developer, MCP
>> > Chicago Mercantile Exchange
>>
>> Shane:
>>
>> The rule of thumb is that you only need 72 dpi for the web, 600 dpi for
>> document printing and 2400 dpi for high-end pre-press work. You kind of
>have
>> to fool around until you get settings you are comfortable with.
>>
>> For the web I personally use 72 dpi for the downsampling, or scan in at
>that
>> resolution, and jpg-medium quality with zip for compression. I always use
>> the acquire function with my scanner, cause I like the scanner driver.
>With
>> an 8 1/2 x 11 page, this gave me a file size of 111k on a Mac.
>>
>> I just scanned in a full page cover, with some 14 pt blue type. Looked
>great
>> on screen. It didn't print too badly, either.
>>
>> Remember, Adobe did a weird one on us. The jpeg/low means low compression
>> and is the highest quality.
>>
>> Good luck.
>>
>> Rich
>>
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>I want to add a possibilitity for the users to get back to the "homepage"
>by clicking some navigation button or similar, wherever he is on any page
>on any of these files.
...
>So, my question is, is there a way to add the same button on all pages on
>all files via a batch process? And of course that button should not print
>if document is printed.

I think that this could be done with non-printing form buttons. If you
set up a template PDF with just the button in it, this could be overlaid
onto every page of every PDF within a directory using our Options plug-
in's "Copy Hyperfeatures". See our web site for an evaluation version.

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True enough for colour pictures and text on pictures.....my point of
reference was that we wanted to provide Annual Reports not for their nice
pictures but for the information inside cause that's what our dealers and
analysts needed.  As long as the financial info was intact we were very
happy (i.e. we scanned only in grayscale).  I'll agree that text on pictures
or textures is a real pain in the butt and I'll have to try your
recommendation.

Thanks

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> I am not sure I agree with you. We do use Capture 2.0, but for annual

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Hello,

Can anyone give a reference to where Distiller 4.0 command line options are
described (Windows NT)? 

I didn't find this in Acrobat Guide supplied with Acrobat 4.0.

Thanks a lot,


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Hello Sarunas,

You can find this in the document Distiller Automation in the Acrobat
SDK - available from
http://partners.adobe.com/supportservice/devrelations/nonmember/acrosdk/
main.html

In summary:

Switch Description

/E [jobOptionsFilePath] Opens Distiller's Job Options dialog to edit
the specified Job Options file.

/J [jobOptionsFilePath] Uses jobOptionsFilePath as the Job
Options file for any input files specified on
the command line.

/N Runs a new instance of Distiller, even if
another Distiller is already running.

/O outputFileOrFolderPath
Specifies the output PDF file name or a
directory name to put PDF files in.
e.g. acrodist /o destFile sourceFile

/Q (:seconds) Tells Distiller to exit immediately when it
becomes idle.

/V Forces Distiller to not view the generated
PDF, regardless of any Distiller settings.

I hope this helps.

regards,

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> The plug-in you're mentioning doesn't seem to ship with 
> Acrobat Reader and
> if it fails to make reader work then it should.

There is a great deal of confusion about Acrobat form filling
plug-ins, and bad advice is often given (or no advice, which
is sometimes as bad).  Here's the deal (deep breath).

EVERY Acrobat Reader shipped since 3.0 has included a plug-in
for form filling. It has had various names, but that doesn't
usually matter.  It matter only if people mess up their
installs, or start removing plug-ins for any reason (especially 
AFORM32.API AFILL32.API AcroForm or AcroFill).

There are three versions of the plug-in around, as it has
improved over time.

1. The version included with Reader 3.0 or 3.01.
2. The version included with Reader 3.02.
3. The version included with Reader 4.0.

In addition, there is a "form filler update". This is for use ONLY
by people with the original version (3.0 or 3.01) and is very much
the same as the one included with Reader 3.02. Nobody with Reader 3.02
or later should install the update.  Because of the availability of
3.02 it is probably easier to forget about the update, and just say
"3.02 or later" if necessary.

If you stick to features available in all plug-ins, you don't
have to worry about the version. It is ABSOLUTELY the responsibility
of anyone creating a form
(a) to understand which version of the plug-in is required for the
form fields they create;
(b) to tell users clearly what they must do.
Nobody else can do this for you, because nobody can easily tell from
a PDF which version of the plug-in is needed. Form authors very rarely
consider this point, in my experience, but I think that is wrong.

This is a pity, but it is completely unavoidable; the only alternative
would been have been to freeze forms forever after the first release.

Sadly, this information (what version is needed for what feature) does 
not seem readily available in an easy to digest form.  The most important 
thing is this: JavaScript and calculations do not work with the 
original version.

Complication 1: on the Mac platform only, the directory structure is
badly designed - Exchange and Reader share plug-ins. To avoid
problems do not install them to the same folder (e.g. put one
in Hard Disk:Acrobat 3.0 and the other in Hard Disk:Acrobat Reader 3.0.
If this is not done, under some circumstances Reader loses its
form filling ability.

Complication 2: installing Reader 3.02 over 3.0 or 3.01 in the same
folder can lead to plug-in clashes. Don't do it! Uninstall 3.0 or
3.01 first, or use a different folder.  If the clash happens, there
will be warning messages when starting Reader, which can lead people
to delete the wrong files.

Aandi

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Aandi,

thank you for clear explanation concerning
plug-in for form filling.
I have another question:
Is it some limitation for users using
Reader version older then 4.0 when I will prepare
form with Acrobat 4.0?
Thank you for your advice.

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>>I want to add a possibilitity for the users to get back to the "homepage"
>>by clicking some navigation button or similar, wherever he is on any page
>>on any of these files.
>...
>>So, my question is, is there a way to add the same button on all pages on
>>all files via a batch process? And of course that button should not print
>>if document is printed.
>
I am trying to find a way of doing this and would also be grateful of
help. I have tried putting a button of the page in the grey area
thinking this would apply to all pages but it doesn't.

The Acrobat index has various icons on every page. Where these added to
every page or is there a way of putting them in once to appear
everywhere>

-- 

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		You can create a button and duplicate that button on a
single page or multiple pages. The button will function correctly if the
name of the button and the action are the same for all pages. However, if
the name of the button gets changed, then it becomes independent of other
buttons.

		You can create a button using the Form tool in Exchange.
Then you can choose Duplicate from the Edit menu of the Field submenu.

		You can either enter a page number or duplicate across all
pages.

		Please contact me again if you need further info on this.

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Hello Perry,

> I would like to be able to select a folder of individual 
> PDFs, and have them automatically insert in order (by file name) and
save as a 
> single file. Anything out there that comes close?

If you are happen to be a programmer then you can find out how to do
this using Visual Basic and IAC at our Code Cuts site -
http://www.codecuts.com/mainpage.asp?WebPageID=47

If you are not a programmer then please contact me off list and I can
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> I have another question:
> Is it some limitation for users using
> Reader version older then 4.0 when I will prepare
> form with Acrobat 4.0?
> Thank you for your advice.

This is a good question. I believe the answer is that
you will be fine so long as you do not use the new
forms features of Acrobat 4.0. The new features are
mostly JavaScript features, like the ability to e-mail
(which does not work in Reader in any case).

There is a difference between new forms features
and new tricks in the forms author. For instance, the
second version of the forms author allowed JavaScript,
and it allowed copy/paste of form elements.

JavaScript would require the second version of the forms
filler. But copy/paste was fine; it just provided a new
way for the author to work with form fields, the copied
fields were still valid with the original filler (if they
had been valid before!).

Does any one have a concise summary of new features in
Acrobat 4 forms - the ones to avoid for compatibility with
old versions. Or, a reference...?

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>               You can create a button and duplicate that button on a
>single page or multiple pages. The button will function correctly if the
>name of the button and the action are the same for all pages. However, if
>the name of the button gets changed, then it becomes independent of other
>buttons.
>
>               You can create a button using the Form tool in Exchange.
>Then you can choose Duplicate from the Edit menu of the Field submenu.
>
>               You can either enter a page number or duplicate across all
>pages.
>
>               Please contact me again if you need further info on this.
>
Thanks, the Edit menu options (not clear in Acrobat help) also gives me
other ideas.

I can no link to another file but it tells me I cannot go to view a page
within a document. Do you know of a way I can do this.
-- 

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		If I follow your request, you may want to consider using an
article to accomplish your goal.

		You can create an article (just as you would a link) and
then link to the article from a normal link option. An article is a block of
contiguous or non-contiguous text that sharethe same article name (thus are
considered "together").

		I hope I've understood what you want to do correctly. If
not, please respond.


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>
> Does any one have a concise summary of new features in
> Acrobat 4 forms - the ones to avoid for compatibility with
> old versions. Or, a reference...?
>

The new "Acrobat Forms JavaScript Object Specification" (acrojs.pdf) that is
installed with Acrobat 4.0 has a brief summary and prominently identifies
the properties, methods, and objects that are new to 4.0. (Watch out for the
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> >
> > Does any one have a concise summary of new features in
> > Acrobat 4 forms - the ones to avoid for compatibility with
> > old versions. Or, a reference...?
> >
> 
> The new "Acrobat Forms JavaScript Object Specification" 
> (acrojs.pdf) that is
> installed with Acrobat 4.0 has a brief summary and 
> prominently identifies
> the properties, methods, and objects that are new to 4.0. 
> (Watch out for the typos, though.)

So, JavaScript is the only change?

Assuming there are no new action types, then the one other thing
to watch out for is using menu items which don't appear in Acrobat
3 (or Acrobat Reader 3). Minor details like changing the position
of an item don't usually cause this to break, nor does switching
to a foreign language version of Reader, since each menu item
has an internal, fixed, code.

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Hello!

There is a Tech Note that outlines the command line procedures supported
by Acrobat Distiller 4.0. It is available from the Adobe site at the
following URL:

http://www.adobe.com/supportservice/custsupport/SOLUTIONS/11666.htm

I hope this helps,
Samantha

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> Hello,
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> Can anyone give a reference to where Distiller 4.0 command line options are
> described (Windows NT)?
> 
> I didn't find this in Acrobat Guide supplied with Acrobat 4.0.
> 
> Thanks a lot,
> 
> Sarunas Burdulis
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> > > Does any one have a concise summary of new features in
> > > Acrobat 4 forms - the ones to avoid for compatibility with
> > > old versions. Or, a reference...?
> >
> > The new "Acrobat Forms JavaScript Object Specification"
> > (acrojs.pdf) that is
> > installed with Acrobat 4.0 has a brief summary and
> > prominently identifies
> > the properties, methods, and objects that are new to 4.0.
> > (Watch out for the typos, though.)
>
> So, JavaScript is the only change?

The other big change is the new Signature field type, but only for Windows
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>
>Assuming there are no new action types, then the one other thing
>to watch out for is using menu items which don't appear in Acrobat
>3 (or Acrobat Reader 3). Minor details like changing the position
>of an item don't usually cause this to break, nor does switching
>to a foreign language version of Reader, since each menu item
>has an internal, fixed, code.
>

Or using PC menu items that don't appear in Mac versions. 


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>Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 14:38:17 -0700
>From: "George Johnson" <geojohn@u.washington.edu>
>Subject: RE: [PDF] Forms -- What Am I Doing Wrong???
>
>> I do hope there is a quick-and-dirty fix for this that someone
(Adobe??)
>> can offer.  I'm getting 20+ forms ready for nearly a hundred
>> state agencies
>> to use to officially report their fiscal year end accounting
information,
>
>I the limited testing I've done, it appears that JavaScript has
difficulties
>dealing with integer values from 2^30 to 2^31 - 1. It seems an integer n
>between 2^30 and (2^31 - 1) is operated on as though it were (n - 2^31).
>The
>definitive fix probably will not be quick, but that's speculation.
>
>For a quick and dirty workaround, be sure to type a decimal point after
>the
>last number. You may be able to use a custom format script or keystroke
>script to help out here.

So, this is the limitation fundamental to signed 32-bit integer.
No amount of fooling around with custom calculation code will
fix this as long as you are using 32-bit quantities.
You must start to do 64-bit calcs using two 32-bit ints, taking
care of all carries and borrows across the boundary.
I don't believe you can have an easy solution unless Adobe's PDF
javascript supports 64-bit data types, either type "long long"
or "double" in C.  Are 64-bit data types there in javascript
for AcroRead4.0?

Trying to pass large values as "float"s will make things worse.
Although sign won't get changed, you will only have at most 7
significant digits.  So, you will get your millions and billons
correct, but dollars and cents will be totally wrong!
Can't be tolerated in bean counting business.

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>>
>I am trying to find a way of doing this and would also be grateful of
>help. I have tried putting a button of the page in the grey area
>thinking this would apply to all pages but it doesn't.
>
>The Acrobat index has various icons on every page. Where these added to
>every page or is there a way of putting them in once to appear
>everywhere>


Skip back a few messages ... we just discussed this yesterday or the day
before.

Short answer:  read up on putting PDFMark code in EPS files.  Make
appropriate EPS files for the buttons you want, put them in the source
document in such a way as to have them appear on every page (ie, on the
master page in PageMaker, the footer in Word or whatever).


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Thanks, George & Sam, for the thought and effort you put into analyzing
this!  I'm afraid it's getting way, way over my head , although I did
understand George's helpful workaround about using the decimal point for
the range 1073741824 to 2147483647.

So, what's a beancounter to do in a practical sense in this situation?

Roberto Perelman, are there any thoughts from the good folks at Adobe
Systems as yet?

Thanks,
Fred Orcutt




>>>Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 14:38:17 -0700
>>>From: "George Johnson" <geojohn@u.washington.edu>
>>>Subject: RE: [PDF] Forms -- What Am I Doing Wrong???
>>>
>>>> I do hope there is a quick-and-dirty fix for this that someone
(Adobe??)
>>> can offer.  I'm getting 20+ forms ready for nearly a hundred
>>> state agencies
>>> to use to officially report their fiscal year end accounting
information,
>>
>>I the limited testing I've done, it appears that JavaScript has
difficulties
>>dealing with integer values from 2^30 to 2^31 - 1. It seems an integer n
>>between 2^30 and (2^31 - 1) is operated on as though it were (n - 2^31).
>>The
>>definitive fix probably will not be quick, but that's speculation.
>>
>>For a quick and dirty workaround, be sure to type a decimal point after
>>the
>>last number. You may be able to use a custom format script or keystroke
>>script to help out here.
>So, this is the limitation fundamental to signed 32-bit integer.
>No amount of fooling around with custom calculation code will
>fix this as long as you are using 32-bit quantities.
>You must start to do 64-bit calcs using two 32-bit ints, taking
>care of all carries and borrows across the boundary.
>I don't believe you can have an easy solution unless Adobe's PDF
>javascript supports 64-bit data types, either type "long long"
>or "double" in C.  Are 64-bit data types there in javascript
>for AcroRead4.0?
>Trying to pass large values as "float"s will make things worse.
>Although sign won't get changed, you will only have at most 7
>significant digits.  So, you will get your millions and billons
>correct, but dollars and cents will be totally wrong!
>Can't be tolerated in bean counting business.
>Sam
>FastIO Systems - ClibPDF - http://www.fastio.com/









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> >I the limited testing I've done, it appears that JavaScript has
> difficulties
> >dealing with integer values from 2^30 to 2^31 - 1. It seems an integer n
> >between 2^30 and (2^31 - 1) is operated on as though it were (n - 2^31).
> >The
> >definitive fix probably will not be quick, but that's speculation.
> >
> >For a quick and dirty workaround, be sure to type a decimal point after
> >the
> >last number. You may be able to use a custom format script or keystroke
> >script to help out here.
>
> So, this is the limitation fundamental to signed 32-bit integer.
> No amount of fooling around with custom calculation code will
> fix this as long as you are using 32-bit quantities.
> You must start to do 64-bit calcs using two 32-bit ints, taking
> care of all carries and borrows across the boundary.
> I don't believe you can have an easy solution unless Adobe's PDF
> javascript supports 64-bit data types, either type "long long"
> or "double" in C.  Are 64-bit data types there in javascript
> for AcroRead4.0?
>
> Trying to pass large values as "float"s will make things worse.
> Although sign won't get changed, you will only have at most 7
> significant digits.  So, you will get your millions and billons
> correct, but dollars and cents will be totally wrong!
> Can't be tolerated in bean counting business.

Actually, all you need to do is append a "." to the end of an integer and it
will work. A custom keystroke script can do this. And a custom format script
can suppress the display of the "." in the text field.


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Shane Stiles a écrit :

> I am having trouble scanning Annual Reports into PDF format for use on our Intranet.  When I scan these reports in, the screen resolution is not clear, but the printed version is fine.  Also the file size is always way too large for the web.  I have been scanning the pages into Photoshop, and then saving them as PDFs.  Is there a particular procedure or setting that works best?  Any advice or help on this would be greatly appreciated.

Shane,
AT&T has just developed and currently markets a new compression algorithm, named DjVu, which has been precisely invented for scanning Annual Reports (or such sophisticated documents)! That is to say, it is especially efficient with complex layouts, typically web pages, which include background, text, photos, and so on ...
The principle of this algorithm is the following : it extracts b&w text/line, gray or color photos, and background into separate layers, then it is able to implement the best algorithm for each layer.
I attended a demo at AT&T booth last month in AIIM'Show and was much impressed ; here are some figures they declare (excerpt from AT&T latest email) :

"... As we hope you saw at AIIM, DjVu allows users to view high-resolution
documents on the Web with download speeds not possible with the standard
file formats used on the Internet today. DjVu particularly shines when
it comes to scanned color documents, with file sizes 5 to 10 times
smaller (and therefore faster) than GIF or JPEG files and 200 times
smaller than G4 Tift.  To see further examples of DjVu images, you can
download the DjVu Plug-in (http://www.djvu.att.com/software/plugin.html)..."

OK, this algorithm is not yet implemented into Acrobat (Acrobat 5 ?), but you might use it as separate pages, with the DjVu Plug-in.

Otherwise, I suspect (hope) this algorithm could be interesting as input to Acrobat Capture, when you have background images and text. Suppose you are able to extract the "text layer" from DjVu file in order to isolate b&w text pixels, then convert to TIFF, then Capture ... Maybe existing third party tools already allow you such process (see FEITH at ATT web site), I haven't yet read the documentation I brought back.
Work hard !

Michel Lausseur
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> Roberto Perelman, are there any thoughts from the good folks at Adobe
> Systems as yet?

Well, we've entered it as a bug to be fixed in 4.01, but don't know yet what
the fix will be (assuming we figure out how to fix it!)


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Hi folks - 

Here's my scenario.  Please fill in the blanks or shoot it down if it
needs shooting.

I have a DMS I need to populate with PowerPoint presentation files.  The
group that has been creating this has been faithfully filling in the
file statistics (Author, subject, whatever).  There is no data base to
accompany these files, and one WOULD be really handy so the files could
be batch loaded (mapped) to the DMS which has a loader utility.  I think
the info could be parsed out of the PPT files using Visual Basic,  but I
am not a VB person and would have to rely on chargeable programming time
for this. My "far-out" scenario has be thinking that if I PDF these
things that somehow that file information is captured someplace in the
PDF.  Then, I could use some kind of "plug-in" that would allow me
access to the "meta data" information within the PDF and possible export
this to a tab delimited format.

Any chance in hell??

rebecca

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In Acrobat 4.0, under File > Preferences > TouchUp..., there are two
selections, Image Editor and Page/Object Editor, with a button for each
which allows you to browse and select a program (.exe) file for each.
Neither field contains any information.

I can find NO references to this in the manual whatsoever.  Can anyone
offer any guidance as to what these do...and what the options are?

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> In Acrobat 4.0, under File > Preferences > TouchUp..., there are two
> selections, Image Editor and Page/Object Editor, with a 
> button for each
> which allows you to browse and select a program (.exe) file for each.
> Neither field contains any information.
> 
> I can find NO references to this in the manual whatsoever.  Can anyone
> offer any guidance as to what these do...and what the options are?

See page 20 of the Exchange guide, "Configuring Photoshop and Illustrator 
for image or PDF editing in Acrobat"; page 180, "Editing graphic objects 
within PDF documents."

Aandi

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Does anybody know of a plug in that will automate this process?

It is a one time shot so I don't what to spend $1,000's.



Robert Alexander
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> I would like to be able to select a folder of individual 
> PDFs, and have them automatically insert in order (by file name) and
save as a 
> single file. Anything out there that comes close?

Our RC:Splitter plug-in has a combine function that takes all PDFs in
a directory and combines them into a result PDF. There is also a name
string that can allow only files matching a pattern to be combined from the
directory. There is an optional autoprint feature if you want a lot of paper.

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I've seen posts about this before and am experiencing it myself so I thought I'd ask... 

Is it bug or a limitation or something else?

The problem is that so called 'large' PDF don't display within the web browser 'a page at a time'.  You simply get a blank screen until the entire file has been transferred before that first page displays.

Now, this is a big problem because since it's a 'larger then normal' file size, it takes forever and a day for the person requesting the file to ever get to see it... and personally.... I just don't see anyone waiting around for it to load.

I have 128k ISDN and I wouldn't wait it out.  Why would we expect a person with a 28,000 baud modem to do it?

Now, what bothers me the most is that file size seems to be a relative term here, or the limitations of Acrobat are very limited indeed.

I have a PDF that is only 1.5 MB in size.  However, it's 544 "pages" in length.  But, the individual 'pages' are only 4 to 8 k each.  Yet, this file will not display within a web browser a page at a time.

Why is that?  All the other files in the same group (which aren't as large) do display within the web browser a page at a time.

If you want to see this bug or limitation or whatever in action, the file in question is called Production Crew Directory (the first file in the list) located at...

http://www.imageplex.com/99npd.html 


Thanks for any opinions on this,

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>I have a DMS I need to populate with PowerPoint presentation files.  

Pardon an ignorant PowerPointGeek question, but what's a DMS?  

>The
>group that has been creating this has been faithfully filling in the
>file statistics (Author, subject, whatever).  

In PowerPoint's properties sheet?

>There is no data base to
>accompany these files, and one WOULD be really handy so the files could
>be batch loaded (mapped) to the DMS which has a loader utility.  I think
>the info could be parsed out of the PPT files using Visual Basic,  but I
>am not a VB person and would have to rely on chargeable programming time
>for this. My "far-out" scenario has be thinking that if I PDF these
>things that somehow that file information is captured someplace in the
>PDF.  

A quick check, PowerPoint --> PDFWriter --> PDF says no.  I don't see any
of the PPT file properties I set in the General Info of the PDF.  As it
happens, I was looking for a quick way of extracting property info from PPT
files using VBA in PPT just the other day. Turns out that it's ridiculously
simple to do a search and return files that contain specific text, it's not
very helpful; the Office search applet searches on ALL text in the target
files, not just property sheet stuff, so the search is quite slow and may
return inappropriate "hits" unless you cobble up some way of ensuring that
the info plugged into the PPT property sheets is truly unique.

There doesn't appear to be any direct way of searching for specifics, eg
"Author" field contains "My Name"

I think this sort of thing *can* be done, but requires API calls, meaning
it's going to be a bit tougher to program.  You'd then still have the
problem of getting the properties data plugged into the PDF.  I gather it
can be done, but don't have the first clue how.  But that's why they gave
us these nifty newsgroups.  I'm sure the answer to that one will be along
shortly.


Steve Rindsberg
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Clay,

Are you experiencing the problem with Internet Explorer, Netscape, or both?
The "white screen of death" seems to be "known" problem in Explorer with
Arobat 3 or earlier. Adobe's technical support has been working this problem
for me for a month or more. They can reproduce the problem, but haven't come
up with an explanation or solution.

If you're experiencing the problem in both browsers, are you sure that your
web server supports and is set up to byteserve PDF files? If it's not, then
the file will have to completely download before it displays.

Just as an FYI, it appears the Acrobat Reader 4 solves the white screen
problem in IE.

Lynne Avery
Sr. Technical Writer
Exabyte Corporation

The problem is that so called 'large' PDF don't display within the web
browser 'a page at a time'.  You simply get a blank screen until the entire
file has been transferred before that first page displays.


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On 5/7/99 at 10:06 AM, clay@imageplex.com (Clay McCullough) wrote:

> The problem is that so called 'large' PDF don't display within the web browser 'a page at a time'. 

Dear list... I am so embarrased here!  I have decided the only thing to do is to fess up.

I realized almost immediately after sending the post that I had a large PDF that wouldn't display within a web browser a page at a time that the file in question was not optimized.  

I'm very, very sorry for wasting your time.

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Just when I thought I'd seen everything...

I tried saving a large PDF file (6MB) after editing it with text tool, and
it appeared to "Save As" just fine, until at the end I got an error message:
"The document could not be saved.  Sharing violation."  Since the file is on
my local hard drive (not on the LAN), I haven't a clue...anyone have a
suggestion?

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		When I get this error, I just do a File SAVE, not a SAVEAS.

		Normally, while editing my PDFs, I do not do a SAVEAS until
the very last step. Otherwise, I've run into this problem multiple times and
the resolution I provided should work.

		Hope this will help with your issue.

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If you can extract the property fields into a database, then Compose will
import the information into the PDF document info fields.  I've checked ppt,
too, and cannot see any "easy" way to utilize that information.  Good luck!
Sueg
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>>I have a DMS I need to populate with PowerPoint presentation files.
>
>Pardon an ignorant PowerPointGeek question, but what's a DMS?
>
>>The
>>group that has been creating this has been faithfully filling in the
>>file statistics (Author, subject, whatever).
>
>In PowerPoint's properties sheet?
>
>>There is no data base to
>>accompany these files, and one WOULD be really handy so the files could
>>be batch loaded (mapped) to the DMS which has a loader utility.  I think
>>the info could be parsed out of the PPT files using Visual Basic,  but I
>>am not a VB person and would have to rely on chargeable programming time
>>for this. My "far-out" scenario has be thinking that if I PDF these
>>things that somehow that file information is captured someplace in the
>>PDF.
>
>A quick check, PowerPoint --> PDFWriter --> PDF says no.  I don't see any
>of the PPT file properties I set in the General Info of the PDF.  As it
>happens, I was looking for a quick way of extracting property info from PPT
>files using VBA in PPT just the other day. Turns out that it's ridiculously
>simple to do a search and return files that contain specific text, it's not
>very helpful; the Office search applet searches on ALL text in the target
>files, not just property sheet stuff, so the search is quite slow and may
>return inappropriate "hits" unless you cobble up some way of ensuring that
>the info plugged into the PPT property sheets is truly unique.
>
>There doesn't appear to be any direct way of searching for specifics, eg
>"Author" field contains "My Name"
>
>I think this sort of thing *can* be done, but requires API calls, meaning
>it's going to be a bit tougher to program.  You'd then still have the
>problem of getting the properties data plugged into the PDF.  I gather it
>can be done, but don't have the first clue how.  But that's why they gave
>us these nifty newsgroups.  I'm sure the answer to that one will be along
>shortly.
>
>
>Steve Rindsberg
>President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau
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>
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          Reply to:  Mac Distiller freeze
I am trying to distill a PostScript file printed from Quark 3.3, 6 pages, using AdobePS 8.5.1. Distiller will begin to distill the PS file (open or drag & drop) will process all pages, go to 99% then back to 0%, summarize the distill time and the program will freeze, all disk activity stops, forcing me to do a option+shift+ command+esc.
No PDF created, no postscript error, just process and freeze. Distiller 3.02 processes this PS fine, no problems. I even tried to use the Press Optimized setting to see if it was my configuration, to no avail. Any ideas? (I am running a 266 G3 with OS 8.1)

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> I have a DMS I need to populate with PowerPoint presentation files.  The
> group that has been creating this has been faithfully filling in the
> file statistics (Author, subject, whatever).  There is no data base to
> accompany these files, and one WOULD be really handy so the files could
> be batch loaded (mapped) to the DMS which has a loader utility.  I think
> the info could be parsed out of the PPT files using Visual Basic,  but I
> am not a VB person and would have to rely on chargeable programming time
> for this. My "far-out" scenario has be thinking that if I PDF these
> things that somehow that file information is captured someplace in the
> PDF.  Then, I could use some kind of "plug-in" that would allow me
> access to the "meta data" information within the PDF and possible export
> this to a tab delimited format.

You can use Desaware's StorageTools AxtiveX control
(http://www.desaware.com) with VB to extract this information. A simple VB
program could then be written using IAC (see Technical Note #5165,
http://partners.adobe.com/supportservice/devrelations/PDFS/TN/5165.VWIACREF.
PDF and http://www.codecuts.com/mainpage.asp?WebPageID=51) to populate the
PDF info fields and write the info to a database or file.


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Hi, is there a program or a way to create a watermark within a pdf?  so
that if a client tries to print the document the watermark will show up,
but will not show up on their screen.

Thanks

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I'm hoping one of you experts out there can help me.
According to Adobe's web page at
http://www.adobe.com/supportservice/custsupport/TECHGUIDE/ACRBT/BYTESRV/byte
serv_03.html entitled "Troubleshooting PDF Byteserving Problems - Web
Servers," Microsoft Internet Information Server (IIS) supports byteserving.
The link given takes you to Microsoft's site where you can learn everything
under the sun about this product EXCEPT for how to enable this feature.
I've looked under "byte" and "byteserving" with no luck.
I did find a reference to enabling buffering for ASP applications, but I'm
not even sure what an ASP application is.
Can anyone help me out with a translation from Adobe-speak to Microsoft-talk
and tell me what the heck Microsoft calls this feature so we can figure out
how to enable it?  Many, many thanks!

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There is two ways that I know of.  One is using StampPDF which is not
cheap or a function in your PS printer that came with your software (the
PS function does not work with NT).

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> Hi, is there a program or a way to create a watermark within a pdf?
> so
> that if a client tries to print the document the watermark will show
> up,
> but will not show up on their screen.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> CASTI Publishing Inc./Codes & Standards Training Inc.
> CASTI Cyber Training Inc./CASTI Digitizing and Multimedia Inc.
> 10566 - 114 Street, Edmonton, Alberta T5H 3J7 Canada
> Web site: www.casti-publishing.com
> tel: (780) 424-2552  fax: (780) 421-1308 
> e-mail: castidata@casti-publishing.com
> 
> 
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Bob,

MS refers to this as support for "byte-range" headers.

There is no special setup required to enable the feature; it's ready to use
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>I'm hoping one of you experts out there can help me.
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>http://www.adobe.com/supportservice/custsupport/TECHGUIDE/ACRBT/BYTESRV/byte
>serv_03.html entitled "Troubleshooting PDF Byteserving Problems - Web
>Servers," Microsoft Internet Information Server (IIS) supports byteserving.

>Can anyone help me out with a translation from Adobe-speak to Microsoft-talk
>and tell me what the heck Microsoft calls this feature so we can figure out
>how to enable it?  Many, many thanks!
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Hi Rebecca,

David Foster has created an ActiveX DLL called FPropset, which reads custom
& built-in document properties from MS Office files (all versions from
Office 4.2 onwards), without having to open the files within Word or
PowerPoint or whatever. It can easily be called from VB/VBA programs, is
free, and can be downloaded from the following location.

http://www.panix.com/~dfoster/prog/office/fpropset/FPropSet.html

Hope this helps.

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>Hi folks -
>
>Here's my scenario.  Please fill in the blanks or shoot it down if it
>needs shooting.
>
>I have a DMS I need to populate with PowerPoint presentation files.  The
>group that has been creating this has been faithfully filling in the
>file statistics (Author, subject, whatever).  There is no data base to
>accompany these files, and one WOULD be really handy so the files could
>be batch loaded (mapped) to the DMS which has a loader utility.  I think
>the info could be parsed out of the PPT files using Visual Basic,  but I
>am not a VB person and would have to rely on chargeable programming time
>for this. My "far-out" scenario has be thinking that if I PDF these
>things that somehow that file information is captured someplace in the
>PDF.  Then, I could use some kind of "plug-in" that would allow me
>access to the "meta data" information within the PDF and possible export
>this to a tab delimited format.
>
>Any chance in hell??
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>There is two ways that I know of.  One is using StampPDF which is not
>cheap or a function in your PS printer that came with your software (the
>PS function does not work with NT).


That would be the Adobe driver, not the MS one, by the way.  And
unfortunately, the watermark will be visible on screen as well.

One could play games with PS code embedded in PDFMark stuff, but that would
only watermark output to PS printers, not others.


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I'm suddenly having trouble printing large (> 200 pages) PDF files.  When
trying to print large files, Reader dutifully spools over 200 pages to the
print server and then suddenly displays the helpful error message "Write
Error" and stops spooling.  The pages that got spooled print successfully.
We can print the large book in 200 page sections, and we can successfully
print each and every page if we set the jobs up to be small enough, so I
don't think it's a problem with a specific page.  We're having this problem
with two different large PDF files that reside on our hard drives.

We're using Windows 95 PCs, AdobePS Acrobat Distiller 3.0 printer driver,
and printing to various Hewlett-Packard postscript printers (4 Si, 5 Si,
8000)  We get the error from the same PDF file on several different PCs, so
I don't think it's the PC.  

The PDF file was created using Distiller, not PDFWriter.  I've recently
reinstalled Distiller, did I forget to set some Distiller option that limits
printing to 250 pages?


I've search the list archives, and Adobe's website.  I did find some mention
of this error in the list archives, but the description didn't quite match
my situation and I didn't see any solutions.  Any ideas, guys?


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More info:  We're using Reader 3.02.  I've also tried it from 4.0  That
gives a more helpful message, suggesting there's a problem with the network,
but still fails.  Could it be that my network techs have imposed a size
restriction on print jobs that we didn't have before?  Any print server
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Debby,
The PS method won't produce a watermark that is invisible on the screen
but then shows when printed. Does Stamp PDF do this?

DECKARDT_IT@nv.doe.gov wrote:
> 
> There is two ways that I know of.  One is using StampPDF which is not
> cheap or a function in your PS printer that came with your software (the
> PS function does not work with NT).
> 
> > --
> > Hi, is there a program or a way to create a watermark within a pdf?
> > so
> > that if a client tries to print the document the watermark will show
> > up,
> > but will not show up on their screen.
> >
> >
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The simple way to do this is to use Acrobat 4.0 create a PDF form field.
Put the watermark text in the form field. 
Under Appearance, set the field to Hidden but Printable (a new Acrobat 4.0
choice specifically to address this common watermarking customer request).
After you create the field, still using the Forms tool, right-click on the
field. Choose All. This puts the watermark on every page.

When you view the document, you see nothing. When you print it, the
watermark prints on every page. /dick


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Known bug in AdobePS 4.2.x driver (and possibly also in the 4.1.x
and Microsoft PSCRIPT drivers) limits print jobs to 256 pages.
Fix is in AdobePS 4.3 to be available on Adobe web site soon!

	- Dov


At 5/7/99 12:04 PM , McClure, Mary M wrote:
>I'm suddenly having trouble printing large (> 200 pages) PDF files.  When
>trying to print large files, Reader dutifully spools over 200 pages to the
>print server and then suddenly displays the helpful error message "Write
>Error" and stops spooling.  The pages that got spooled print successfully.
>We can print the large book in 200 page sections, and we can successfully
>print each and every page if we set the jobs up to be small enough, so I
>don't think it's a problem with a specific page.  We're having this problem
>with two different large PDF files that reside on our hard drives.
>
>We're using Windows 95 PCs, AdobePS Acrobat Distiller 3.0 printer driver,
>and printing to various Hewlett-Packard postscript printers (4 Si, 5 Si,
>8000)  We get the error from the same PDF file on several different PCs, so
>I don't think it's the PC.  
>
>The PDF file was created using Distiller, not PDFWriter.  I've recently
>reinstalled Distiller, did I forget to set some Distiller option that limits
>printing to 250 pages?
>
>
>I've search the list archives, and Adobe's website.  I did find some mention
>of this error in the list archives, but the description didn't quite match
>my situation and I didn't see any solutions.  Any ideas, guys?
>
>
>Mary McClure


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Hello,

I have a .ps file (466 pages) with a table of contents that was downloaded
from a web site. The engineer who is using the file wants clickable links
created from the TOC, much like what happens when you convert a Word
document to PDF using PDFMaker. Does anyone know of a converion tool or a
quick way to create the links? I've tried Ambia.com's .ps to rtf converter.
I thought that I could then save it as a doc file and convert it to PDF
using PDF Maker, but no go. It's unusable as an RTF file.

Thanks for any input,

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Kevin,
The new version of FileOpen PDF, now in beta, includes print controls which
will print a header containing a custom or auto-generated message. This
header is invisible on screen. Please contact me directly at the number
below for more info.

>Hi, is there a program or a way to create a watermark within a pdf?  so
>that if a client tries to print the document the watermark will show up,
>but will not show up on their screen.



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Dear List,

Does anyone on this list have any experience applescripting Acrobat?
If so, I have a question regarding getting a submenu item to execute.

thanks.

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Problem I Upgraded to Acrobat 4 I distilled some postscript files
(really simple files) using the distiller 4.0 & sent them to a
customer who only had Acrobat 3.01 he couldn't open the files it said
they were to complex. I didn't change the file or add anything
special
I did select the acrobat 3 compatible option. I made them using
acrobat 3.01 & had no troubles. What can i do differently?

TIA,
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>Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 14:29:25 -0700
>From: "George Johnson" <geojohn@u.washington.edu>
>Subject: RE: [PDF] Forms -- What Am I Doing Wrong???
>
>> You must start to do 64-bit calcs using two 32-bit ints, taking
>> care of all carries and borrows across the boundary.
>> I don't believe you can have an easy solution unless Adobe's PDF
>> javascript supports 64-bit data types, either type "long long"
>> or "double" in C.  Are 64-bit data types there in javascript
>> for AcroRead4.0?
>>
>> Trying to pass large values as "float"s will make things worse.
>> Although sign won't get changed, you will only have at most 7
>> significant digits.  So, you will get your millions and billons
>> correct, but dollars and cents will be totally wrong!
>> Can't be tolerated in bean counting business.
>
>Actually, all you need to do is append a "." to the end of an
>integer and it will work. A custom keystroke script can do this.
>And a custom format script can suppress the display of the "." in
>the text field.

My guess of what is happening is that Acrobat JavaScript uses
32-bit signed ints for integers and 64-bit double for float values
internally.

Adding a "." at the end suddenly "promotes" data types from
32-bit int to 64-bit double, and triggers recalcs which make
the results correct.

With the ".", I confirmed that it does calculations with
numbers much larger than 10 digits down to cents (15-16
significant digits should be OK), so as long as the Acrobat form
programmer knows the trick, that George mentioned, things will
work correctly.  But, then how many Acrobat form programmers
are there who do NOT subscribe to this list.  It's going to
take years until Acrobat 4.01 progapages to 99% of users.
Intranet can be controllable, but if your forms have to go
out to the Internet, the problem seems quite serious.

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A collleague asked if he saves a PDF file so that the security option
that says do not allow "changing the document" or "selecting text and
graphics" is checked, and if he password protects the PDF file so that
security options can't be changed, if someone could open the file and
modify it in a PDF editing program such as Adobe Illustrator.

I told him that it shouldn't be possible. He said he tried it and it
was. I then tried it myself--saving an Acrobat 3.0 file and opening it
up in Illustrator 8, and lo and behold the file did open up without any
password prompt.

Has anyone else tried this or experienced similar security issues?

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This is a clever solution, but it won't work as expected unless the user
also has Acrobat 4.

I just tried using Acrobat 4 to add such a "Hidden but Printable" field to a
PDF that had previously been created with Acrobat 3 (Distiller 3.02).  The
form works as it should in Acrobat 4.

However, if you view the same PDF with Acrobat 3.01, the form field becomes
visible on-screen (on all pages, if you duplicated the field).

I suppose one way to guarantee that your "watermark" field will behave
correctly (i.e, that it will be printed but invisible when viewed) is to
force the document to be highly incompatible with Acrobat 3, so that only
Acrobat 4 users can open/view/print it.  This might be practical for
in-house applications, but the population of Acrobat 4 Readers is probably a
bit too small right now for this to be a general solution.

Rgds

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At 12:47 PM 5/7/99 -0700, you wrote:
>
>
>The simple way to do this is to use Acrobat 4.0 create a PDF form field.
>Put the watermark text in the form field. 
>Under Appearance, set the field to Hidden but Printable (a new Acrobat 4.0
>choice specifically to address this common watermarking customer request).
>After you create the field, still using the Forms tool, right-click on the
>field. Choose All. This puts the watermark on every page.
>
>When you view the document, you see nothing. When you print it, the
>watermark prints on every page. /dick
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Sam,

With the benefit of your and George's insights, I can now make the trick
work for my forms when the form users cross the "Johnson-Ohzawa Threshold"
into the 32->64-bit wormhole region out there in javaspace.

I agree with your assessment of the scope of the problem, as I've
experienced it first-hand.  Hopefully, the word can get out and spread
around as much as possible.  I'd be pleased to do my part to help out in
any way.

Once again, guys, thanks for the assistance.

Fred Orcutt




>With the ".", I confirmed that it does calculations with
>numbers much larger than 10 digits down to cents (15-16
>significant digits should be OK), so as long as the Acrobat form
>programmer knows the trick, that George mentioned, things will
>work correctly.  But, then how many Acrobat form programmers
>are there who do NOT subscribe to this list.  It's going to
>take years until Acrobat 4.01 progapages to 99% of users.
>Intranet can be controllable, but if your forms have to go
>out to the Internet, the problem seems quite serious.
>Sam


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<html><div>
</div>
<div>Diana,</div>
<div>Could you supply me with the #? I did not see it in your email.</div>
<br>
<br>
<div>&gt;Kevin,</div>
<div>&gt;The new version of FileOpen PDF, now in beta, includes print controls which</div>
<div>&gt;will print a header containing a custom or auto-generated message. This</div>
<div>&gt;header is invisible on screen. Please contact me directly at the number</div>
&gt;below for more info.
<BR>

Kevin Chu, EIT, ACE<br>
<br>
Digitizing and Multimedia Engineer<br>
<br>
CASTI Digitizing and Multimedia Inc. <br>
10566 - 114 Street, Edmonton, Alberta T5H 3J7 Canada <br>
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<html><div>Is this a free plug-in? and where can I find it?</div>
<br>
<br>
<div>&gt;</div>
<div>&gt;Actually &quot;Hidden but Printable&quot; was also available
with the 3.5 Forms plug-ins</div>
<div>&gt;(and 3.02 Acrobat), which are widely available</div>
&gt;
<BR>

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Hi Steve - 

thanks for replying.  DMS is Document Management System, sometimes
called EDM (Electronic Document Management).  It's a Web-front end
databse-controlled "vault" for the check-in and check-out of documents
by contributors.  Yes - it's the information in the PowerPt properties
sheet.

I think I miscommunicated in my original post.  I'm really not
interested in going to PDF at all with these files.  I just thought that
by doing so this summary information would be captured and I could
extract it.  If that's not possible, then I'm not interested in PDF.

rebecca

>-----Original Message-----
>From:	Steve Rindsberg [SMTP:steve@rdpslides.com]
>Sent:	Friday, May 07, 1999 8:09 AM
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>>I have a DMS I need to populate with PowerPoint presentation files.  
>
>Pardon an ignorant PowerPointGeek question, but what's a DMS?  
>
>>The
>>group that has been creating this has been faithfully filling in the
>>file statistics (Author, subject, whatever).  
>
>In PowerPoint's properties sheet?
>
>>There is no data base to
>>accompany these files, and one WOULD be really handy so the files could
>>be batch loaded (mapped) to the DMS which has a loader utility.  I think
>>the info could be parsed out of the PPT files using Visual Basic,  but I
>>am not a VB person and would have to rely on chargeable programming time
>>for this. My "far-out" scenario has be thinking that if I PDF these
>>things that somehow that file information is captured someplace in the
>>PDF.  
>
>A quick check, PowerPoint --> PDFWriter --> PDF says no.  I don't see any
>of the PPT file properties I set in the General Info of the PDF.  As it
>happens, I was looking for a quick way of extracting property info from PPT
>files using VBA in PPT just the other day. Turns out that it's ridiculously
>simple to do a search and return files that contain specific text, it's not
>very helpful; the Office search applet searches on ALL text in the target
>files, not just property sheet stuff, so the search is quite slow and may
>return inappropriate "hits" unless you cobble up some way of ensuring that
>the info plugged into the PPT property sheets is truly unique.
>
>There doesn't appear to be any direct way of searching for specifics, eg
>"Author" field contains "My Name"
>
>I think this sort of thing *can* be done, but requires API calls, meaning
>it's going to be a bit tougher to program.  You'd then still have the
>problem of getting the properties data plugged into the PDF.  I gather it
>can be done, but don't have the first clue how.  But that's why they gave
>us these nifty newsgroups.  I'm sure the answer to that one will be along
>shortly.
>
>
>Steve Rindsberg
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Hi List,

Just did a book in PageMaker, created the PostScript files, distilled them
with Distiller 4, and the PDFs were all about 90% of the originals. I then
reinstalled Acrobat 3, ran its distiller on the same PostScript files, and
the PDFs were fine. My printer (Thomson-Shore) has not begun to use PDFs
from Acro 4 so they have not faced this and worked out the bugs. I found
that choosing to make the PDF compatible with Acro 3 was not enough;
apparently using Acro 4 does something Acro 3 doesn't.

Other details: Mac G3/350. OS 8.5.1. File used Jensen MM font. All
compression was off.

Anyone duplicate this?

All the best.........Andy

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Solved a similar problem this morning for someone.  It seems that the paper
size selected was "US Letter (Small)".  Changed it to US Letter in the
Acrobat page setup and it printed fine.



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Hi List,

Just did a book in PageMaker, created the PostScript files, distilled them
with Distiller 4, and the PDFs were all about 90% of the originals. I then
reinstalled Acrobat 3, ran its distiller on the same PostScript files, and
the PDFs were fine. My printer (Thomson-Shore) has not begun to use PDFs
from Acro 4 so they have not faced this and worked out the bugs. I found
that choosing to make the PDF compatible with Acro 3 was not enough;
apparently using Acro 4 does something Acro 3 doesn't.

Other details: Mac G3/350. OS 8.5.1. File used Jensen MM font. All
compression was off.

Anyone duplicate this?

All the best.........Andy

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> Just did a book in PageMaker, created the PostScript files, 
> distilled them
> with Distiller 4, and the PDFs were all about 90% of the 
> originals.

Switch off "fit to page" when you print from Acrobat 4.
This does the same as "shrink to fit" in Acrobat 3, but is
on by default.

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Hi Aandi,

Where do you select "fit to page"?

PS See previous message about "letter(small)." (This is Mac.)

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>
>> Just did a book in PageMaker, created the PostScript files,
>> distilled them
>> with Distiller 4, and the PDFs were all about 90% of the
>> originals.
>
>Switch off "fit to page" when you print from Acrobat 4.
>This does the same as "shrink to fit" in Acrobat 3, but is
>on by default.
>
>Aandi
>
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Hi Susan,

I looked right at that US Letter Small and let it pass. What a mistake. So
that's all it took. Thanks for the tip. I'll pass it along to Thomson-Shore
for other customers.

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>
>Solved a similar problem this morning for someone.  It seems that the paper
>size selected was "US Letter (Small)".  Changed it to US Letter in the
>Acrobat page setup and it printed fine.
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Andrew Tallon [mailto:andrew.tallon@marquette.edu]
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>Subject: [PDF] Acrobat 4 shrank the kids
>
>
>
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>Hi List,
>
>Just did a book in PageMaker, created the PostScript files, distilled them
>with Distiller 4, and the PDFs were all about 90% of the originals. I then
>reinstalled Acrobat 3, ran its distiller on the same PostScript files, and
>the PDFs were fine. My printer (Thomson-Shore) has not begun to use PDFs
>from Acro 4 so they have not faced this and worked out the bugs. I found
>that choosing to make the PDF compatible with Acro 3 was not enough;
>apparently using Acro 4 does something Acro 3 doesn't.
>
>Other details: Mac G3/350. OS 8.5.1. File used Jensen MM font. All
>compression was off.
>
>Anyone duplicate this?
>
>All the best.........Andy
>
>*******************************************
>Dr. Andrew Tallon, Director
>Marquette University Press
>Professor of Philosophy
>_________________________________
>Founded 1916
>Member: AAUP & AJUP
>snailmail: Box 1881
>	Milwaukee WI 53201-1881
>email: andrew.tallon@marquette.edu
>fax: 414 288 3300   phone: 414 288 7298
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>web: http://www.marquette.edu/mupress/
>********************************************
>
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> Where do you select "fit to page"?

In the print dialog.

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Hi,

I've just had a user ask,

"I have tried this on several PCs, [accessing my site] including ones that
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I am not familiar with  "Acrord32"  can anyone tell me what this error is.

I've tested the site from my Mac and was operating. It was working on a pc
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Hi Aandi,

Are you thinking of a Win version of Acro 4? There's nothing like that on a
Mac except the percentage selection. And the aforementioned US Letter
(small) business.

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>> Where do you select "fit to page"?
>
>In the print dialog.
>
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> Hi Aandi,
> 
> Are you thinking of a Win version of Acro 4? There's nothing like that on a
> Mac except the percentage selection. And the aforementioned US Letter
> (small) business.
>
> All the best......Andy
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>>> Where do you select "fit to page"?
>>
>>In the print dialog.
>>
>>Aandi
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It's on both platforms. On the Mac you go into the print dialog box (as
Aandi indicated) and you'll see the word "General". You'll drag that down
one level to get to Acrobat, and you'll see the little check box that he's
referring to.

Rich

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>Last night, I found an important new book at a local bookstore in Salt
>Lake City, Utah, USA.
>
>The new book is the long-awaited definition of PostScript Language
>Level 3.  While previous editions of several Adobe PostScript books
>had a distinctive spine, with red at the top, and white at the bottom,
>this new one unfortunately has a black spine, with red and white
>lettering, making it harder to spot on a bookshelf.  The cover retains
>the old red/white style.
>
>@String{pub-AW                  = "Ad{\-d}i{\-s}on-Wes{\-l}ey"}
>@String{pub-AW:adr              = "Reading, MA, USA"}
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>@Book{Adobe:1999:PLR,
>  author =       "{Adobe Systems Incorporated}",
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>  publisher =    pub-AW,
>  address =      pub-AW:adr,
>  edition =      "Third",
>  pages =        "xii + 897",
>  year =         "1999",
>  ISBN =         "0-201-37922-8",
>  LCCN =         "QA76.73.P67 P67 1999",
>  bibdate =      "Sat May 08 07:43:15 1999",
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>
>These collections are mirrored regularly to several other Internet
>archives, include the huge Karlsruhe Computer Science archive at
>
>	http://liinwww.ira.uka.de/bibliography/
>
>That page includes pointers to eight mirror sites around the globe.
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Sounds as though you might be running out of spool/temp space.  Have you
kept an eye on available space on your \Windows drive while you're
printing?  Or try changing the printer driver spool properties to Direct to
printer to disable spooling temporarily.

>
>I'm suddenly having trouble printing large (> 200 pages) PDF files.  When
>trying to print large files, Reader dutifully spools over 200 pages to the
>print server and then suddenly displays the helpful error message "Write
>Error" and stops spooling.  The pages that got spooled print successfully.
>We can print the large book in 200 page sections, and we can successfully
>print each and every page if we set the jobs up to be small enough, so I
>don't think it's a problem with a specific page.  We're having this problem
>with two different large PDF files that reside on our hard drives.
>

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>
>I think I miscommunicated in my original post.  I'm really not
>interested in going to PDF at all with these files.  I just thought that
>by doing so this summary information would be captured and I could
>extract it.  If that's not possible, then I'm not interested in PDF.
>

I'd have a look at the Microsoft Office Resource Kit, which describes
FindFast and Web Findfast, for starters.  Seems to allow a certain amount
of searching based on document content and properties against an index
maintained by FindFast (part of Office).

Looks like there's some info on getting and setting built in and custom
properties in the VBA help (though precious few examples)

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Adobe have noted on their web site that Distiller 3.x for
Windows (only) is not year 2000 compliant. This is mentioned
on http://www.adobe.com/newsfeatures/year2000/prodlist.html. 
Since I've been looking into this, I thought I'd share my 
diagnosis of it.

This is not intended to cause panic and despondency - I hope
the members of this list are able to understand that not
all year 2000 problems are life threatening.  But the information
may help someone to seamlessly support date display from PDF
files even if Distiller 3.x is used into the next millenium.

The problem is not terribly important - Distiller 3.x will
keep working fine. But the key effect will be that the creation
date stored inside the PDF, and reported by document info, 
will be wrong. On 1 January 2000, the date will appear to be
in 1910, but it is not a question of adding 90.

The format of a date string should be (D:yyyymmddhhmmss) where
the field may be incomplete (losing interest after dd).

Where the date is 20yy, Distiller 3.x (Windows) will code
(D:191yymmddhhmmss). In other words, "20" is replaced by "191"
and all characters move down one. I think we can imagine the
code, and perhaps the shouting too, but it may be best to draw
a veil over that. (Who could have predicted 2000 would come 
around so quickly...)

Anyway, the work-around is fairly evident. If the date string
starts D:191, replace it with D:20 and shift the rest of the
string down.  There were no PDF files from the 1910 decade, and
by the time this algorithm runs out, the calendar in MS-DOS will
have given up the ghost. But there's no need to worry about
thatn just yet...is there?

If Adobe are listening, this fix could quietly roll into Acrobat 
4.01 or whatever.

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Thanks, Rich. I found it. I guess for safety one has to do both, i.e.,
uncheck the "fit to page" and make sure paper is not "US letter (small),"
although probably it's enough to do the latter. In fact, if the "fit to
page" option is the default, it must have been checked when I successfully
printed the above-mentioned file. But I'm paranoid and will do both.

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>> Hi Aandi,
>>
>> Are you thinking of a Win version of Acro 4? There's nothing like that on a
>> Mac except the percentage selection. And the aforementioned US Letter
>> (small) business.
>>
>> All the best......Andy
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>>>
>>>> Where do you select "fit to page"?
>>>
>>>In the print dialog.
>>>
>>>Aandi
>>>
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>>
>>
>> *******************************************
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>> Marquette University Press
>> Professor of Philosophy
>> _________________________________
>> Founded 1916
>> Member: AAUP & AJUP
>> snailmail: Box 1881
>>  Milwaukee WI 53201-1881
>> email: andrew.tallon@marquette.edu
>> fax: 414 288 3300   phone: 414 288 7298
>> personal fax: 414 962 8692 (must first phone: 414 962 8696)
>> web: http://www.marquette.edu/mupress/
>> ********************************************
>
>It's on both platforms. On the Mac you go into the print dialog box (as
>Aandi indicated) and you'll see the word "General". You'll drag that down
>one level to get to Acrobat, and you'll see the little check box that he's
>referring to.
>
>Rich
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Last night, I found an important new book at a local bookstore in Salt
Lake City, Utah, USA.

The new book is the long-awaited definition of PostScript Language
Level 3.  While previous editions of several Adobe PostScript books
had a distinctive spine, with red at the top, and white at the bottom,
this new one unfortunately has a black spine, with red and white
lettering, making it harder to spot on a bookshelf.  The cover retains
the old red/white style.

@String{pub-AW                  = "Ad{\-d}i{\-s}on-Wes{\-l}ey"}
@String{pub-AW:adr              = "Reading, MA, USA"}

@Book{Adobe:1999:PLR,
  author =       "{Adobe Systems Incorporated}",
  title =        "{PostScript} Language Reference",
  publisher =    pub-AW,
  address =      pub-AW:adr,
  edition =      "Third",
  pages =        "xii + 897",
  year =         "1999",
  ISBN =         "0-201-37922-8",
  LCCN =         "QA76.73.P67 P67 1999",
  bibdate =      "Sat May 08 07:43:15 1999",
  price =        "US\$49.95, CDN\$74.95",
  acknowledgement = ack-nhfb,
}

Entries for these books, and related publications, can be found in the
bibliography archives at

	ftp://ftp.math.utah.edu/pub/tex/bib/postscri.*
	http://www.math.utah.edu/pub/tex/bib/index-table-p.html#postscri

These collections are mirrored regularly to several other Internet
archives, include the huge Karlsruhe Computer Science archive at

	http://liinwww.ira.uka.de/bibliography/

That page includes pointers to eight mirror sites around the globe.

The Karlsruhe archive contains about 930,000 entries, of which 232,659
come from the Utah archive.

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Last night, I found an important new book at a local bookstore in Salt
Lake City, Utah, USA.

The new book is the long-awaited definition of PostScript Language
Level 3.  While previous editions of several Adobe PostScript books
had a distinctive spine, with red at the top, and white at the bottom,
this new one unfortunately has a black spine, with red and white
lettering, making it harder to spot on a bookshelf.  The cover retains
the old red/white style.

@String{pub-AW                  = "Ad{\-d}i{\-s}on-Wes{\-l}ey"}
@String{pub-AW:adr              = "Reading, MA, USA"}

@Book{Adobe:1999:PLR,
  author =       "{Adobe Systems Incorporated}",
  title =        "{PostScript} Language Reference",
  publisher =    pub-AW,
  address =      pub-AW:adr,
  edition =      "Third",
  pages =        "xii + 897",
  year =         "1999",
  ISBN =         "0-201-37922-8",
  LCCN =         "QA76.73.P67 P67 1999",
  bibdate =      "Sat May 08 07:43:15 1999",
  price =        "US\$49.95, CDN\$74.95",
  acknowledgement = ack-nhfb,
}

Entries for these books, and related publications, can be found in the
bibliography archives at

	ftp://ftp.math.utah.edu/pub/tex/bib/postscri.*
	http://www.math.utah.edu/pub/tex/bib/index-table-p.html#postscri

These collections are mirrored regularly to several other Internet
archives, include the huge Karlsruhe Computer Science archive at

	http://liinwww.ira.uka.de/bibliography/

That page includes pointers to eight mirror sites around the globe.

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come from the Utah archive.

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- Salt Lake City, UT 84112-0090, USA    URL: http://www.math.utah.edu/~beebe  - 
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Kevin,

The very simplest basic way in Acrobat 4 would be creating a form field
with the watermark and set it to "hide on screen and show to print" (or
whatever it exactly says, but I guess you understand what is meant).

Hope, this can help.

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>Hi, is there a program or a way to create a watermark within a pdf?  so
>that if a client tries to print the document the watermark will show up,
>but will not show up on their screen.
>
>Thanks



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Aandi,

The reference would be the Acrobat JavaScript Reference. In Acrobat 4 it is
available under the Help menu. At least the version I have access to does
have version notes. And from personal communications I understand that
Acrobat 4 does understand all older commands, even if they are no longer
mentioned in the Reference. On the other hand, the new commands are clearly
marked as such.

Hope, this can help.

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>Does any one have a concise summary of new features in
>Acrobat 4 forms - the ones to avoid for compatibility with
>old versions. Or, a reference...?
>
>Aandi




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Mary,

were there any changes in your printer spooler settings on the network? Or
is there a resource shortage in the printer spooler on the network? Can you
print locally without problems?

Hope, this can help.

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>More info:  We're using Reader 3.02.  I've also tried it from 4.0  That
>gives a more helpful message, suggesting there's a problem with the network,
>but still fails.  Could it be that my network techs have imposed a size
>restriction on print jobs that we didn't have before?  Any print server
>gurus out there?  Can they do that?
>



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Aandi,

and what is even more a pity is that it is only with Acrobat 4 that the
forms designer has a way to ask which version is actually installed, so
that possible workarounds for older versions can be handled. But as these
versions do not understand that request...


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>If you stick to features available in all plug-ins, you don't
>have to worry about the version. It is ABSOLUTELY the responsibility
>of anyone creating a form
>(a) to understand which version of the plug-in is required for the
>form fields they create;
>(b) to tell users clearly what they must do.
>Nobody else can do this for you, because nobody can easily tell from
>a PDF which version of the plug-in is needed. Form authors very rarely
>consider this point, in my experience, but I think that is wrong.
>
>This is a pity, but it is completely unavoidable; the only alternative
>would been have been to freeze forms forever after the first release.
>
>Sadly, this information (what version is needed for what feature) does
>not seem readily available in an easy to digest form.  The most important
>thing is this: JavaScript and calculations do not work with the
>original version.
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Hello all,

> Looks like there's some info on getting and setting built in 
> and custom
> properties in the VBA help (though precious few examples)

I have been speaking with Rebecca off-list, but for all those who are
curious - here's the general method.

If you are looking to extract the info from PPT, then you can use the
following VB code to extract the stored results. Writing this
information to the PDF once converted would not be too difficult (use
the SetInfo method).

To get the data...

strTitle =  ActivePresentation.BuiltInDocumentProperties ("Title")
strSubject =  ActivePresentation.BuiltInDocumentProperties ("Subject")
strAuthor = ActivePresentation.BuiltInDocumentProperties ("Author")
strKeywords  ActivePresentation.BuiltInDocumentProperties("Keywords")

///
/// Create your PDF from the PPT doc here
///

and to set the data...

AcroPDDoc.SetInfo "Title", strTitle 
AcroPDDoc.SetInfo "Subject", strSubject 
AcroPDDoc.SetInfo "Author", strAuthor 
AcroPDDoc.SetInfo "Keywords", strKeywords 

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> > >I the limited testing I've done, it appears that JavaScript has
> > difficulties
> > >dealing with integer values from 2^30 to 2^31 - 1. It seems an integer n
> > >between 2^30 and (2^31 - 1) is operated on as though it were (n - 2^31).
> > >
> > >For a quick and dirty workaround, be sure to type a decimal point after
> > >the
> > >last number. You may be able to use a custom format script or keystroke
> > >script to help out here.

Here's some code that you can call from a custom validate script to add
the decimal separator to the end of an integer. Replace the "." with a ","
if that's what you're using for the decimal separator. Also, be sure to
set the text form field's Format Category to "Number".


function CorrectInt()
{
   var a = event.value;

   //If there is no decimal point, add one
   if(a.indexOf(".") == -1)
      event.value = event.value + ".";
}


If you add this function the document JavaScript functions, a field's
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CorrectInt();



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Hello Martin,

> We want to be able to build PDF files on the fly by combining 
> existing PDF
> files based on users answers to survey questions. Is PDF 
> fusion the only
> way to do this?

You might like to also look at Append PDF from Digital Applications -
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Hi All,

In response to this post:

Subject: Re: [PDF] Watermarking a pdf?
>
> Actually "Hidden but Printable" was also available with the 3.5
> Forms plug-ins
> (and 3.02 Acrobat), which are widely available
>

Can anyone tell me whether the "Hidden but Printable" feature in the 3.5
forms plug-in works in Exchange 3.01, or only in Exchange 4.0. I still only
own Exchange 3.01 but want the "Hidden but Printable" feature.

TIA

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You can also construct a variable PDF by assembling it from "template" pages
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Hello,

I have an EPS file with me, which contains some True Type Fonts like
Wingdings2, Wingdings3, Arial and so on.  While I tried to convert the
file to PDF, Acrobat Distiller replaces the True Type Fonts to Courier and
some other fonts that are available.

I want the True Type Fonts to be embedded in the PDF file exactly as it is
present in the original file. I couldn't do that.   I also tried to add
the directories in Acrobat Distiller -> Font Location and also in Job
Options.  But, nothing works.

Any ideas in this regard would be greatly appreciated.

thanks,
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> I have an EPS file with me, which contains some True Type Fonts like
> Wingdings2, Wingdings3, Arial and so on.  While I tried to convert the
> file to PDF, Acrobat Distiller replaces the True Type Fonts 
> to Courier and
> some other fonts that are available.

I suspect the problem is that the EPS file does *not* contain the
fonts. So Distiller has to look for them in its folders.

Distiller, however, can only find PostScript fonts in its font
folders. TrueType fonts have to be converted to PostScript and
EMBEDDED in the PostScript.

Some EPS creators can do this optionally (e.g. PageMaker, Windows
printer driver). Some will never do it (e.g QuarkXPress). If TrueType
fonts are not embedded in an EPS file it is pretty much useless
for ALL purposes, including conversion to PDF.

If you are unable to resolve this, how exactly was the EPS file made?

Aandi

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Here's a challenge for a JavaScript programmer, then:

how to code a test for version which works in the first
JavaScript forms plug-in.

And an even bigger challenge: a matrix of forms features
listing what is needed to support them (ideally, which of
the three fillers, and whether Reader or Exchange).

Aandi

> and what is even more a pity is that it is only with Acrobat 
> 4 that the
> forms designer has a way to ask which version is actually 
> installed, so
> that possible workarounds for older versions can be handled. 
> But as these
> versions do not understand that request...

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Hello,

I 've got a problem, every time I try to print a PDF on a Dot-Matrix printer. When I select a non-square resolution (e.g. 360x180) on a 24-pin printer, the printed text characters seem to override each other. Has anybody any idea about this problem?


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Definitely check out AudienceOne at www.audienceone.com

>We want to be able to build PDF files on the fly by combining existing PDF
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Yes they can. I'm guessing that's your exact problem.  We have the same setup,
but have 1000+ page PDF (12+ MB) and print just fine.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: McClure, Mary M
> Sent: Friday, May 07, 1999 12:24 PM

> More info:  We're using Reader 3.02.  I've also tried it from 4.0  That
> gives a more helpful message, suggesting there's a problem with the network,
> but still fails.  Could it be that my network techs have imposed a size
> restriction on print jobs that we didn't have before?  Any print server
> gurus out there?  Can they do that?


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I have a very crazy problem with the acrobat exchange software.

Some time ago i select graphics in a pdf-document and copied to coreldraw. 
In coreldraw i have now a group of curves (vectors)  and if i ungroup this 
block it is possible to delete some objects.
Today the graphictool copies the graphic, but only in bitmap format.

How can i copy the graphic to corel as vector??

Well I'll be blowed! But it´s the same pdf-file.

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At 5/10/99 12:05 AM , Murali Krishnan wrote:
>Hello,
>
>I have an EPS file with me, which contains some True Type Fonts like
>Wingdings2, Wingdings3, Arial and so on.  While I tried to convert the
>file to PDF, Acrobat Distiller replaces the True Type Fonts to Courier and
>some other fonts that are available.
>
>I want the True Type Fonts to be embedded in the PDF file exactly as it is
>present in the original file. I couldn't do that.   I also tried to add
>the directories in Acrobat Distiller -> Font Location and also in Job
>Options.  But, nothing works.
>
>Any ideas in this regard would be greatly appreciated.
>
>thanks,
>Murali
>"HAVE A NICE DAY"


Acrobat does not "replace" any TrueType fonts with Courier. If you
had the actual TrueType font definitions in the EPS file and you set
the options correctly for the Distiller, those fonts are embedded.

However, if you are only referencing the TrueType fonts from within
the EPS file (i.e., the font definitions are NOT in the file), you will
get the behaviour described. The Distiller does not search for TrueType
fonts in the Windows (or Mac) font directory by "PostScript name" and
subsequently extract and embed them.

Depending upon your source of these EPS files, you may be able to embed
the fonts in the EPS file when creating them.

	- Dov

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> Some time ago i select graphics in a pdf-document and copied 
> to coreldraw. 
> In coreldraw i have now a group of curves (vectors)  and if i 
> ungroup this 
> block it is possible to delete some objects.
> Today the graphictool copies the graphic, but only in bitmap format.

Acrobat has never been able to copy vector graphics without
additional software. Perhaps you were using such software (though
I never heard of any); or CorelDraw has traced the bitmap to
make a collection of curves.

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Very nice, Karl.  Thanks!

I'd been playing with this a bit too and found that:

Sub Test()
Dim p
For Each p in ActivePresentation.BuiltInDocumentProperties
	With p
		MsgBox (.Name & ": " & .Value)
	End with
Next
End sub

gives you a series of msgboxes listing each property and its value.
There's also the ability to set Custom properties in VBA and work with them
in similar ways.

Turns out that you can also link text in the presentation to document
properties.  I haven't played with this yet, but do see one possible use in
this scenario.  We have a standard template we start all presentations
with.  Right now, it's just got a title and text box on the first page.
Text box has stuff like:

     For:
     Date:
     Due:

and so on.  Start a pressie, fill in the blanks and include/don't include
it in output as needed.  In theory, I could link each bit of text to a
custom property.


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> how to code a test for version which works in the first
> JavaScript forms plug-in.

You can use the "typeof" operator to test for the existence of a JavaScript
function that is present in the 4.0 version of aform.js, e.g.,

var a = typeof AFParseDateEx;

This will return "undefined" in pre-4 versions, and "function" in 4.

Something you can do for non-Javascript capable viewers is to set up a text
field which contains a message explaining that certain form features are
unavailable. In a page open, use JavaScript to hide the text box. This will
fail, and the message is displayed.


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My mistake. It's only in 4.0

Eugene Semetsky wrote:

> I saw your post in the PDF listserv relating to Hidden but Printable fields
> in ver3.5 Forms Plug-in for Exchange 3.01.
>
> I have downloaded the plug-in, but can't find the Hidden but Printable field
> option.
>
> Where is it?


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Thanks for the suggestions, Max, but Dov Isaacs from Adobe tells me it's a
known bug in Adobe's driver.  I'm just surprised we haven't encountered it
before---we've been using the thing for over a year!


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Mary,

were there any changes in your printer spooler settings on the network? Or
is there a resource shortage in the printer spooler on the network? Can you
print locally without problems?

Hope, this can help.

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>More info:  We're using Reader 3.02.  I've also tried it from 4.0  That
>gives a more helpful message, suggesting there's a problem with the
network,
>but still fails.  Could it be that my network techs have imposed a size
>restriction on print jobs that we didn't have before?  Any print server
>gurus out there?  Can they do that?
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Is there a way to change the security settings on a pdf file if you know
the password for doing so?

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		sure, to modify security settings, do the following:
		 
1.	Do a SaveAs; 
2.	click the Security button...;
3.	next enter the Security password; and
4.	Enter the settings dialog.

		You can then modify the document as you'd like.

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>
>Some time ago i select graphics in a pdf-document and copied to coreldraw. 
>In coreldraw i have now a group of curves (vectors)  and if i ungroup this 
>block it is possible to delete some objects.

See Aandi's reply as well.  Perhaps you *imported* the PDF into Draw
previously.  That would give you vectors, which you wouldn't get by
copy/pasting from Exchange.  If you're having problems editing the result,
select all the objects, edit, Copy, then paste them into a new page in
Draw.  This can sort out several other similar kinds of problems.

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Do a Save As, select Security...., provide password, change security
settings, Save.

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Hello,

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> > how to code a test for version which works in the first
> > JavaScript forms plug-in.
> 
> You can use the "typeof" operator to test for the existence of a JavaScript
> function that is present in the 4.0 version of aform.js, e.g.,
> 
> var a = typeof AFParseDateEx;
> 
> This will return "undefined" in pre-4 versions, and "function" in 4.
> 

A better way (that I overlooked) is presented in the Acrobat JavaScript
Object Specification:

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I have problems in calculations with java.
We use commas instead of dots in
decimal-numbers in Finland.
When I change format of numbers to
0.000,00 the calculation will not work.

is there any solution of calculating
numbers with commas ???

I use windows version of acrobat

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We want to be able to build PDF files on the fly by combining existing PDF
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> I have problems in calculations with java.
> We use commas instead of dots in
> decimal-numbers in Finland.
> When I change format of numbers to
> 0.000,00 the calculation will not work.
> 
> is there any solution of calculating
> numbers with commas ???
> 

The only way I could get it to work was to use the AFMakeNumber function
for each number. For example:

var a = this.getField("number_1");
var b = this.getField("number_2");

event.value = AFMakeNumber(a.value) + AFMakeNumber(b.value);

There may be other ways. Is this a known bug, or is it just the way things
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>I have problems in calculations with java.
>We use commas instead of dots in
>decimal-numbers in Finland.
>When I change format of numbers to
>0.000,00 the calculation will not work.







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We are getting error messages with documents containing Adobe Table 3.04
eps files. If we open the table file in Freehand and save again as an eps,
it distills fine. Any suggestions on this? Adobe has a tech note on the web
site regarding this, but it says Adobe Table 3.04 fixes the problem.

By the way, does anyone know of any really good Mac software for making
tables and saving them as good-quality eps files? Adobe Table is a terrible
program (in other ways than just this this Distiller problem).

Susan
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Mika Saari a écrit :

> I have problems in calculations with java.
> We use commas instead of dots in
> decimal-numbers in Finland.
> When I change format of numbers to
> 0.000,00 the calculation will not work.

Hei Mika,

1) I assume that your question concerns JavaScript programs within PDF
form boxes. I don’t know which Acrobat version you are working with, but
I can vouch that the « rest_of_the_world_decimal_number_formats (like
0.000,00) » works fine for standard calculations in the following context
: Acrobat 4.0 french version (one can select decimal format within zone
list), Windows NT4.0 with correct decimal format settings.
I know unfortunately there is not yet Acrobat finnish version (at Adobe
they probably believe that Finland is a region of Sweden or Russia ; one
blunder more due to non-updated NATO maps ?)

2) tervetuloa tähän pdfzonelistalle, Acrobatin ystävien luona, ja
terveisiä Ranskasta !

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At the On Demand Conference in New York City last week, I attended an Adobe
Acrobat demo session. The demonstrator mentioned that with Acrobat 4.0/PDF
1.3, a PDF file can act as a container for other PDF files.

I haven't found any mention of this in the documentation that I have. Can
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I am using the web capture feature to convert some HTML pages to PDFs. However,
some of the pages have links which are called via javascript. (a special
javascript function is used to call window.open to simulate a "pop-up" window).
Unfortunately, these do not translate well to PDF. Does anyone know a way
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Mika,

One thing you could do is create a number converter/handler in JavaScript.
In a first step, you would convert the entered number to the "standard"
format, do the calculations, and convert the results back to your numbering
format.

I recently have done something similar, which contains display in
exponential form, rounding to a given number of significant digits, free
definable decimal point sign, and trailing zero suppression. It is not
thaaat difficult to do.

Hope, this can help.

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>I have problems in calculations with java.
>We use commas instead of dots in
>decimal-numbers in Finland.
>When I change format of numbers to
>0.000,00 the calculation will not work.
>
>is there any solution of calculating
>numbers with commas ???
>
>I use windows version of acrobat
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Have you got the latest Distiller?  Version 3.02 is available from Adobe's
Web site.

Perhaps this is the cause of the problem?

Dave
--------------------------
> We are getting error messages with documents containing Adobe Table 3.04
> eps files. If we open the table file in Freehand and save again as an eps,
> it distills fine. Any suggestions on this? Adobe has a tech note on the
> web
> site regarding this, but it says Adobe Table 3.04 fixes the problem.
> 
> By the way, does anyone know of any really good Mac software for making
> tables and saving them as good-quality eps files? Adobe Table is a
> terrible
> program (in other ways than just this this Distiller problem).
> 
> Susan

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I've been having a series of weird problems printing from Exchange to my
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I've been able to print a single page...sometimes. Lately, though, I
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Any ideas? This is driving me crazy. Other applications use the same
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Can't seem to find the graphics select tool in my newly installed Acrobat 4.

There is a reference to it in the documentation, but it doesn't seem to be
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Did Adobe forget to put it in?

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Hello Aandi,

Thanks for your suggestion.  Actually the EPS file was created using the
Save As option available in QuarkXpress.  The file is printed well to PDF,
if it is printed through Acrobat PDF writer. Whereas, if it is saved as an
EPS file and then Distilled using Distiller, there we find problems.

Our requirement is, the created QuarkXpress file should be saved as an EPS
file and then converted to PDF, in order to get a Vector PDF file.  This
is where we find problems.  Is there any solution for this?

Is there any tool to convert True Type fonts to Post Script Fonts, since
our customer is in want of those True Type Fonts?

Any ideas/ suggestions.

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Hello Annette,

> Can't seem to find the graphics select tool in my newly 
> installed Acrobat 4.
> 
> There is a reference to it in the documentation, but it 
> doesn't seem to be
> on the tool bars.
> 
> Did Adobe forget to put it in?

You'll find the graphics select on the fly-out toolbutton that has the
text select icon on it by default. To make this menu "fly out", click
and hold your left mouse button on the bottom right hand corner of the
Text Select icon and then drag to the right. You should should see an
additional few toolbuttons "fly out". The right-most button is the
graphics select tool.

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General question to everyone.  Are there any Y2K issues with PDF and to a
larger extent Adobe products in general?

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At 16:53 13.5.1999 +1000, you wrote:

>Can't seem to find the graphics select tool in my newly installed Acrobat 4.
>
>There is a reference to it in the documentation, but it doesn't seem to be
>on the tool bars.
>
>Did Adobe forget to put it in?

Hold Down Left mouse bottom on Text Select Tool then you can see
Graphics Select Tools as third icons from left
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Hello Nathan,

> General question to everyone.  Are there any Y2K issues with 
> PDF and to a
> larger extent Adobe products in general?
> 
> Anyone from Adobe care to provide an official statement......

I think you'll find the answer to your question here --->
http://www.adobe.com/newsfeatures/year2000/prodsupport.html

regards,

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Check on the Adobe Web site they have several statements regarding this.

Dave...
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> larger extent Adobe products in general?
> 
> Anyone from Adobe care to provide an official statement......
> 
> 
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> Thanks for your suggestion.  Actually the EPS file was 
> created using the
> Save As option available in QuarkXpress.  The file is printed 
> well to PDF,
> if it is printed through Acrobat PDF writer. Whereas, if it 
> is saved as an
> EPS file and then Distilled using Distiller, there we find problems.

This is the problem: do not use SAVE AS EPS to create a PostScript
file for distilling because
(a) it does not embed fonts
(b) it can only do a single page.

Instead, print to file using a PostScript printer driver. The
driver can be set to embed fonts in the file, including converted
TrueType.

This confusion often arises because people use the terms
"PostScript" and "EPS" as if they are exactly the same thing; but
EPS is a very special form of PostScript, only intended for use
as graphics.  

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I am looking for someone to advise on book layout and the creation and
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Is there anyway I can create icons instead of buttons. I want the reader
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> Is there anyway I can create icons instead of buttons. I want 
> the reader
> to click on the icon to initiate an event but I do not want 
> the icon to
> be visible if the document is printed

Form fields can be icons, ever since Exchange 3.0.
Acrobat 4 can create non-printable form fields.
Viewed with an older version of the reader, though, these
will either be invisible or they will print, not sure which.

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>Is there anyway I can create icons instead of buttons. I want the
reader to click on the icon to initiate an event but I do not want the
icon to be visible if the document is printed.

Someone suggested this can be done using forms. I can only find buttons
in forms how do I import an icon to use eg an arrow. As I stated above I
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> >
> >Is there anyway I can create icons instead of buttons. I want the
> reader to click on the icon to initiate an event but I do not want the
> icon to be visible if the document is printed.
> 
> Someone suggested this can be done using forms. I can only 
> find buttons
> in forms how do I import an icon to use eg an arrow. As I 
> stated above I
> do not want this to appear in a printed page.

1. Define a form field of type BUTTON and you can say its appearance
is an icon. Prepare the icons you want as pages of a PDF file.

2. Form fields can be non-printable but ONLY if using Acrobat 4.0
for creating and reading the file.

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Thanks for your help
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>> >
>> >Is there anyway I can create icons instead of buttons. I want the
>> reader to click on the icon to initiate an event but I do not want the
>> icon to be visible if the document is printed.
>> 
>> Someone suggested this can be done using forms. I can only 
>> find buttons
>> in forms how do I import an icon to use eg an arrow. As I 
>> stated above I
>> do not want this to appear in a printed page.
>
>1. Define a form field of type BUTTON and you can say its appearance
>is an icon. Prepare the icons you want as pages of a PDF file.
>
>2. Form fields can be non-printable but ONLY if using Acrobat 4.0
>for creating and reading the file.
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> 
> 2. Form fields can be non-printable but ONLY if using Acrobat 4.0
> for creating and reading the file.
> 

With Exchange 3, you can set a field to "Don't Print". What's new with
4.0 is the "Hidden but printable" setting.

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> > 
> > 2. Form fields can be non-printable but ONLY if using Acrobat 4.0
> > for creating and reading the file.
> > 
> 
> With Exchange 3, you can set a field to "Don't Print". What's new with
> 4.0 is the "Hidden but printable" setting.

Quite right. My apologies. So - to emphasise the point - this can all 
be done with Acrobat 3 after all.

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G'day

Cynthia wrote:

> At the On Demand Conference in New York City last week, I attended an Adobe
> Acrobat demo session. The demonstrator mentioned that with Acrobat 4.0/PDF
> 1.3, a PDF file can act as a container for other PDF files.

I'm not sure what the reference was to but I did observe something during
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Some of the PDFs that can be downloaded from the web, eg many of Adobe's,
are secure, that is they cannot be edited. I have not tired to do much with
any but I do know that when you load them most of the normal options are
grayed out. I don't think, for example, that you can extract pages from
them in any way.

No when they are downloaded as part of web capture, they do not appear as
"normal" pages in the resultant PDF document. They are referenced through a
page which has a thumb tack and a statement that the secure PDF file can be
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> Have you got the latest Distiller?  Version 3.02 is available from Adobe's
> Web site.
>
> Perhaps this is the cause of the problem?
>
> Dave
> --------------------------
>> We are getting error messages with documents containing Adobe Table 3.04
>> eps files. If we open the table file in Freehand and save again as an eps,
>> it distills fine. Any suggestions on this? Adobe has a tech note on the
>> web
>> site regarding this, but it says Adobe Table 3.04 fixes the problem.
>>
>> By the way, does anyone know of any really good Mac software for making
>> tables and saving them as good-quality eps files? Adobe Table is a
>> terrible
>> program (in other ways than just this this Distiller problem).
>>
>> Susan

The latest Distiller is 4.0, part of the new Acrobat package available for
Mac and PC.

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> I've been having a series of weird problems printing from Exchange to my
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> the trouble, but I'm still having trouble with image-only files, too.
>
> I've been able to print a single page...sometimes. Lately, though, I
> can't print any page, single or in batches. The symptoms are always the
> same: the spooler outputs all the data to the printer; the printer then
> just sits there displaying "waiting..." for a couple of minutes before
> timing-out and displaying "on line."
>
> Any ideas? This is driving me crazy. Other applications use the same
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>
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What platform are you on?

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> Hello Aandi,
> 
> Thanks for your suggestion.  Actually the EPS file was created using the
> Save As option available in QuarkXpress.  The file is printed well to PDF,
> if it is printed through Acrobat PDF writer. Whereas, if it is saved as an
> EPS file and then Distilled using Distiller, there we find problems.
>
> Our requirement is, the created QuarkXpress file should be saved as an EPS
> file and then converted to PDF, in order to get a Vector PDF file.  This
> is where we find problems.  Is there any solution for this?
>
> Is there any tool to convert True Type fonts to Post Script Fonts, since
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One should not use the PDF Writer for anything more than simple
text-oriented documents.

Making an eps file is also not the proper way to create a PDF file. You
should be creating/printing a postscript file, then distilling that file to
make your PDF.

Your settings should be "embed all fonts and subset to 100%". The whole idea
of Acrobat (for some applications) is that there's no need to supply or
convert fonts...they're included in the document.

If you need a helper application to assist the production of PDFs, I sell
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Let me know if you want more information on this great software tool.

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Well, I solved my own problem RE Distiller (I'm using 4.0) and Adobe Table.
Here's what to do, in case anyone else has this problem:

In Adobe Table, you have two options to make EPS file: fonts included or
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Greetings.

We're trying to generate a database of legal cases involving refugee
rights for access via the web.  We're scanning (for the most part) the
cases, and using Acrobat to convert them from TIFF to PDF.  We'd like to
be able to search on several fields (plaintiff, defendant, court, country,
and so on), beyond being able to shoehorn them into the default DocInfo
fields.

Is there a way to add extra Document Info fields to the PDF, after the
capture?  If so, what is it?  

Any help much appreciated.

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We use Quark to generate much of our output for Acrobat.  Is anybody
aware of an extensions or method for embedding pdf mark code directly in
Quark that is included when post scripted. Can this be done using Tags ?

We are trying to create merge documents with embedded links

Many Thanks

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At 5/12/99 09:17 PM , F. Marc de Piolenc wrote:
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>I've been having a series of weird problems printing from Exchange to my
>PostScript printer. First I thought that fonts in my Captured pages were
>the trouble, but I'm still having trouble with image-only files, too.
>
>I've been able to print a single page...sometimes. Lately, though, I
>can't print any page, single or in batches. The symptoms are always the
>same: the spooler outputs all the data to the printer; the printer then
>just sits there displaying "waiting..." for a couple of minutes before
>timing-out and displaying "on line."
>
>Any ideas? This is driving me crazy. Other applications use the same
>driver and printer with no trouble, whether it's one page or twenty.
>
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It is quite hard to assist you if you don't tell us what platform
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topology, etc. Any number of problems could cause the symptoms you describe.

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You can find OFFICIAL Adobe information on this issue
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>General question to everyone.  Are there any Y2K issues with PDF and to a
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The Quark extension, Scitex Print, allows Scitex Brisque users to embed APR
comments in place of high resolution data into a postscript file. This is a
GOOD workflow because Quark files linked to hundreds of megabytes of images
can be postscripted in seconds. I would like to use the SAME pdf file for
both low-res internet proofing and for hi-res printing. APR should make
this an option for me.

There is a problem with this. The PDF file containing APR comments does not
have images in text boxes where an APR swop will occur. I get empty picture
boxes (with an X through the middle) along with APR comments, a text
message or file name. This problem also occurs when I use .e files to
implement APR.

Has any other Scitex users who are trying to implement a pdf workflow run
into this problem. If so, please share any solutions or work-arounds.  I
would like for my pdf proofs to contain lo-res previews rather than empty
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In message <Pine.SOL.4.10.9905131110100.1225-100000@galaga.rs.itd.umich.
edu>, Dann Fuller <dannimal@umich.edu> wrote:
>... We'd like to be able to search on several fields (plaintiff,
> defendant, court, country,
>and so on), beyond being able to shoehorn them into the default DocInfo
>fields.
>
>Is there a way to add extra Document Info fields to the PDF, after the
>capture?  If so, what is it?  

Yes, take a look at our View Info plug-in on our web site for a way to
do it a file at a time, or our Options plug-in to do it in batch.

[View Info is free to use with Acrobat Reader or Exchange to view
standard and custom document information fields. You only need to pay if
you want to edit/change them in Exchange.]

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Don't know if this will help, but, a couple of years ago we had problems
with image only pdfs printing.  I'm not really knowledgeable about PS, so I
may get this wrong.  Hopefully, someone else can explain this in the correct
terms!  At the time, someone on the list mentioned that the printer needed
to find the word "text" somewhere in the PS code for the print job.  If we
were able to, we'd capture the first page of the document.  Then the pages
would print.  If we couldn't capture the pages, we'd insert a PDF with text
as the first page, and print the document - then we'd delete the page of
text from the PDF document.  Our documents were for use within the company
and we were the only department doing the printing - it worked, but, if you
were preparing the document for someone else who had to be able to print, of
course this wouldn't be an option!

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>> I've been having a series of weird problems printing from Exchange to my
>> PostScript printer. First I thought that fonts in my Captured pages were
>> the trouble, but I'm still having trouble with image-only files, too.
>>
>> I've been able to print a single page...sometimes. Lately, though, I
>> can't print any page, single or in batches. The symptoms are always the
>> same: the spooler outputs all the data to the printer; the printer then
>> just sits there displaying "waiting..." for a couple of minutes before
>> timing-out and displaying "on line."
>>
>> Any ideas? This is driving me crazy. Other applications use the same
>> driver and printer with no trouble, whether it's one page or twenty.
>>
>> Marc de Piolenc
>> Autodidactics
>>
>
>What platform are you on?
>
>Rich
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>Don't know if this will help, but, a couple of years ago we had problems
>with image only pdfs printing.  I'm not really knowledgeable about PS, so I
>may get this wrong.  Hopefully, someone else can explain this in the correct
>terms!  At the time, someone on the list mentioned that the printer needed
>to find the word "text" somewhere in the PS code for the print job.  If we
>were able to, we'd capture the first page of the document.  Then the pages
>would print.  If we couldn't capture the pages, we'd insert a PDF with text
>as the first page, and print the document - then we'd delete the page of
>text from the PDF document.  Our documents were for use within the company
>and we were the only department doing the printing - it worked, but, if you
>were preparing the document for someone else who had to be able to print, of
>course this wouldn't be an option!
>
>SueG

There is no known problem printing image-only PDF files. Nor has there been
any time where the word "text" needed to be "somewhere in the PS code for the
print job." Sounds like an urban legend to me. On the other hand, if there
are timeouts set at the printer that are too low, it could appear that this
was indeed the case. Adding text on a page would change the dynamics of the
job such that the timeouts weren't reached.

	- Dov
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>We'd like to
>be able to search on several fields (plaintiff, defendant, court, country,
>and so on), beyond being able to shoehorn them into the default DocInfo
>fields.
>
>Is there a way to add extra Document Info fields to the PDF, after the
>capture?  If so, what is it?  
>

Steal the keyword field for this?

Either enter the info as is or code in some way, a la:

PL=plaintiffname DF=defendantname etc.

In the former case, you'd get search hits for all Joneses, whether Jones is
the plaintiff, defendant, Jones County Court of Appeals or whatever.

In the latter, you'd get hits on all the above if you searched on Jones,
but could narrow it down by searching on DF=Jones.


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> At the time, someone on the list mentioned that the 
> printer needed
> to find the word "text" somewhere in the PS code for the 
> print job.  If we
> were able to, we'd capture the first page of the document...

I think I'm familiar with that one.

It can happen if text is added to a page which contains no 
text. If a PDF page contains text it must have the word Text
in the PDF in the right place (not the print stream).

(A bad file might have /ProcSet [ /PDF ] . A good one might
have /ProcSet [ /PDF /Text ]. But there are other possibilities).

At various times I have seen this problem with several tools
including Adobe's own forms tool.

I can't tie that to the original problem though. 

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I still don't know what the problem is, but I've worked around it by
using the default Adobe postscript driver instead of the driver provided
by the printer's manufacturer. This works for the image-only documents
I've printed with it so far. I'll go back and see if Captured documents
also work.

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> Don't know if this will help, but, a couple of years ago we had problems
> with image only pdfs printing.   At the time, someone on the list mentioned that the printer needed
> to find the word "text" somewhere in the PS code for the print job.  If we
> were able to, we'd capture the first page of the document.  Then the pages
> would print.


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Dov Isaacs wrote:

> There is no known problem printing image-only PDF files. Nor has there been
> any time where the word "text" needed to be "somewhere in the PS code for the
> print job." Sounds like an urban legend to me. On the other hand, if there
> are timeouts set at the printer that are too low, it could appear that this
> was indeed the case. Adding text on a page would change the dynamics of the
> job such that the timeouts weren't reached.

The first thing I tried was increasing the timeout allowances - both
"wait" and "job." No change. That was with mixed documents AND
image-only.

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Dov Isaacs wrote:

> It is quite hard to assist you if you don't tell us what platform
> and OS you are using, software versions, printer types, drivers, network
> topology, etc. Any number of problems could cause the symptoms you describe.

Sorry. Machine is a 686/233 with 32 megs of memory, running Windows NT
workstation 4.0. The printer is a Panasonic KX-P5400 with the PostScript
option installed and 2 megs of memory. The driver is the "latest" (so
far as I can tell) released for that printer, with a version number ten
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Hi ,

We are working on Macnitosh platform and creating PS files using Adobe PS
and virtual printer driver. We are using Distiller 3.02 for genertaing the
PDF files. Frequently we face a typical problem that while printing PDF
files some of the fonts are not printing properly and if we reprint the
same file it prints ok. We are using HP laserjet 8000N printer for
printing. Anybody can suggest what the problem can be? The printout of the
PS file is always OK.

I want to do batch printing of PDF files on the MAC. Any tool /suggestions
/workaround on that.

Cheers,
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What reasons could there be for  Acrobat not being able to extract an
embedded font from a pdf? The pdf is fine on some machines, but one in
particular can't seem to extract the font. Any suggestions?

Many thanks

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> What reasons could there be for  Acrobat not being able to extract an
> embedded font from a pdf? The pdf is fine on some machines, but one in
> particular can't seem to extract the font. Any suggestions?

The only reason I've been able to prove is a full disk; the font
has to be extracted to disk for use.

There may be other reasons too.

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I have problem with printing with acrobat 4.0
platform is windows 95, printer is canon
colorpass 700/800 (postscript 2).
Forms are made with acrobat exchange 3.1
and there are print-buttons with script
this.print(true,0,1);

printing was fine with 3.1 but not with 4.0
error message in printing is:
"error: undefined
offending command: get"

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Hi,

I seem to recall someone on this list had a gray market price on dongles

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Hope someone has some insight into this one. I am posting to this list
because I am not convinced it is strictly a Capture problem.

On a one year old PC (Dell Dimension XPSR400 w/Windows 95) with a HP6100C
scanner interface, I've just installed Adobe Acrobat Capture 2.0 which
worked properly with an older computer & older scanner.  When I first bring
up the software, all screen fonts look normal.  Then I scan a document with
Capture and bring up Reviewer to correct the intermediate ACD file. Main
problem: the text of the reviewed page is WAY slanted to the left (just the
opposite of italics) and virtually unreadable, thus making the software
useless for me since I can't proof the scanned file without my eyes going
crazy.  Other problems: 1. even as the file is being processed, the Capture
Server text showing its status with the document becomes slanted to the
left.  2. So do some but not all the Capture status bar words, for example
what the In and Out file names are except these are slanted the _other way_
to the right as in italics. 3. If I have Netscape open at the same time,
some text on the current web page disintegrates as well--but erratically.
Part of the page is OK, part is not--in discontiguous areas.  If you click
on a link that is slanted to the left, suddenly it sits straight up & down
as it should! Internet Explorer is NOT affected. 

I tested to see if other applications would be affected. Wordpad, Microsoft
Word & Omnipage pro are OK, but Deskscan II and Adobe Exchange are not OK.

One of our technical people here says he has seen this before but that it
shows up in different places at different times.  He was not certain that
it could be a video problem. This is a new computer & a new scanner.  

Anyone seen this before? Thanks for reading this lengthy problem.

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> I have problem with printing with acrobat 4.0
> platform is windows 95, printer is canon
> colorpass 700/800 (postscript 2).
> Forms are made with acrobat exchange 3.1
> and there are print-buttons with script
> this.print(true,0,1);
> 
> printing was fine with 3.1 but not with 4.0
> error message in printing is:
> "error: undefined

I have heard of several people who have the same problem, but have not
heard of a fix, yet. With my setup, I am not affected, so it does work for
some people. You may want to try updating your printer drivers.

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Does anyone know of an application or a procedure for converting a
ZyImage database to PDF?  My Division would very much like to
standardize on PDF only. Any help or leads would be greatly appreciated.

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>The printer is a Panasonic KX-P5400 with the PostScript
option installed and 2 megs of memory.<

Increase the amount of memory in your printer.....
I recommend 64MB for most PS printers.....
Memory is inexpensive.....

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> I have a .ps file (466 pages) with a table of contents that was
> downloaded
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I am new to the list, so pardon me if this has been discussed before. I am
using Acrobat 4.0 and I want to be able to e-mail form data from within a
web browser. I am using a Java script within the PDF file to e-mail the
form information, but I get an error when I try to send the e-mail from
another computer in the office using the Reader 4.0. If I send the e-mail
from my computer to myself via the submit button, it works. Is this a
function that only exists in Acrobat or am I doing something wrong in my
script? Help!!!!!!

Joel
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I'm normally quiet but this one is over the top.  As a software developer
I'd urge people to remember: you're not paying for the dongle, you're paying
for the software.  The only person who could define something like a
"gray-market" dongle would be a company selling remainders or to developers
to protect their code from software thieves.  Software theft hurts everybody
from little 1-2 person companies to companies as large as Adobe.

If you're in printing copying software is the same as somebody sneaking in
and stealing your paper and presses: we pay real money to develop this stuff
and if you don't want to pay for it you shouldn't be using it.

As freeware has proliferated so too has the notion that all software should
be free.  I frequently have people write suggesting -- without a blush --
that they have a right for a free copy of my software.  People: please
remember, stealing software is no different than stealing anything else
(except that in the US there are even more severe civil and criminal
penalties for stealing software than similarly priced hard goods).

If you can afford to be in business you can afford to purchase all your
software legally.  If you can't afford software, and a company isn't willing
to give it to you, either make due without it or scrounge up some money.
But in much the same way as you probably (hopefully!) wouldn't break into a
store to steal a piece of furniture you like similarly it's both wrong and
illegal to rip off a computer program.

Sorry 'bout the rant that has little to do with PDF's...

Michael Olenick
olenick@olen.com


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> Hi,
>
> I seem to recall someone on this list had a gray market price on dongles
>
> Please reply privately
>
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John:

There is no such thing as a "gray market" for dongles.  There are legal and
illegal dongles, and that's it.

IMHO, Adobe deserves money for their software - especially for Capture!  If
you don't agree, I suggest you don't announce to the world (and to the
Software Publishers Association) that your company (whose name is in your
e-mail address) plans to buy and run illegal software.

If you are wondering how nasty the Software Publishers Association can be,
check out http://www.spa.org/

Duff Johnson
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> 
> Hi,
> 
> I seem to recall someone on this list had a gray market price 
> on dongles
> 
> Please reply privately
> 
> John
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At 5/14/99 06:47 AM , Michael Vorel wrote:
>Message text written by INTERNET:pdf@lists.pdfzone.com
>>The printer is a Panasonic KX-P5400 with the PostScript
>option installed and 2 megs of memory.<
>
>Increase the amount of memory in your printer.....
>I recommend 64MB for most PS printers.....
>Memory is inexpensive.....
>
>michael


The printer in question, the Panasonic KXP5400, was a
relatively inexpensive (at that time), early Adobe PostScript
Level 2 printer with 300dpi resolution. 2 Megabytes was the
minimum amount of memory that the particular printer could
run with. It certainly could not accommodate 64MB. 4 to 8MB
would be an appropriate upper limit for this class of printing
device. And 64MB is hardly appropriate for any desktop laser 
printer unless you have real high resolution (1200dpi or higher
and/or B-size and/or in-RIP seps capabilities. An HP LaserJet 5M,
for example, will printer virtually anything with 16 to 20MB of 
memory. On the other hand a Xante PlateMaker really can use all
256MB of memory that it can accommodate.

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> We're trying to generate a database of legal cases involving refugee
> rights for access via the web.  We're scanning (for the most part) the
> cases, and using Acrobat to convert them from TIFF to PDF.  We'd like to
> be able to search on several fields (plaintiff, defendant, court, country,
> and so on), beyond being able to shoehorn them into the default DocInfo
> fields.

Last year I posted a description on creation and use of custom
document info fields to this list; you should find it in the
archives. You can index and search for custom info fields.
However, the generation part of my post applies to distilled PDFs only.

> 
> Is there a way to add extra Document Info fields to the PDF, after the
> capture?  If so, what is it?  

You may also want to take a look at Merlin's recent View info plug-in
which is a great free tool for viewing custom info fields,
and can (in its commercial incarnation) be used for adding
custom fields to existing (e.g. captured) PDFs. You'll find
the plug-in at http://www.merlin-os.co.uk/

Thomas
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Hope someone has some insight into this one. I am posting to this list
because I am not convinced it is strictly a Capture problem.

On a one year old PC (Dell Dimension XPSR400 w/Windows 95) with a HP6100C
scanner interface, I've just installed Adobe Acrobat Capture 2.0 which
worked properly with an older computer & older scanner.  When I first bring
up the software, all screen fonts look normal.  Then I scan a document with
Capture and bring up Reviewer to correct the intermediate ACD file. Main
problem: the text of the reviewed page is WAY slanted to the left (just the
opposite of italics) and virtually unreadable, thus making the software
useless for me since I can't proof the scanned file without my eyes going
crazy.  Other problems: 1. even as the file is being processed, the Capture
Server text showing its status with the document becomes slanted to the
left.  2. So do some but not all the Capture status bar words, for example
what the In and Out file names are except these are slanted the _other way_
to the right as in italics. 3. If I have Netscape open at the same time,
some text on the current web page disintegrates as well--but erratically.
Part of the page is OK, part is not--in discontiguous areas.  If you click
on a link that is slanted to the left, suddenly it sits straight up & down
as it should! Internet Explorer is NOT affected. 

I tested to see if other applications would be affected. Wordpad, Microsoft
Word & Omnipage pro are OK, but Deskscan II and Adobe Exchange are not OK.

One of our technical people here says he has seen this before but that it
shows up in different places at different times.  He was not certain that
it could be a video problem. This is a new computer & a new scanner.  

Anyone seen this before? Thanks for reading this lengthy problem.

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It looks like I have pushed the envelope and left the box on what articles and
links can do....

WIN NT4.0
Acrobat Exchange 3.01

Bank Disclosure Documents 
anywhere from 80-120 pages
within the document, there are multiple references to see such-n-such a
section

on page such-n-such.
PDF with bookmarks, links to other areas of the document for Bank Intranet
viewing and reference.

I have set articles based on the reference requests within the document. Some
references are just a paragraph, some span multiple pages. Many are sub
paragraphs of larger sections. Thus many of the articles "overlap" one
another.
I have set links to each article corresponding to the particular reference.

Checking the links (in either Exchange or Reader)
some links, when going to the link, scrolling through and reading it, when you
reach the end, it goes back to the page you started from that said "See...."
My understanding is that this is exactly what is supposed to occur.

The problem(s)
some links, when going to the link, scrolling through and reading it, when you
reach the end, it either:
1. keeps on going (beyond the specific article referenced)
2. cycles back to the beginning of the article (like in a loop)
3. cycles back to the top of the page that the referenced article was on 
and then just keeps going.

Is this because, due to the nature of this particular type of documentation,
the articles are on top of one another (because one area will refer to the
complete section of some title and another will refer to only a specific
paragraph or two of that section. and it is only seeing the "top most" one.

What would be the best way to handle this type of document?

Thank you in advance

Patti

                                            
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George Lithograph, PAA
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It looks like I have pushed the envelope and left the box on what
articles and links can do....<br>
<br>
WIN NT4.0<br>
Acrobat Exchange 3.01<br>
<br>
Bank Disclosure Documents <br>
anywhere from 80-120 pages<br>
within the document, there are multiple references to see such-n-such a
section <br>
on page such-n-such.<br>
PDF with bookmarks, links to other areas of the document for Bank
Intranet viewing and reference.<br>
<br>
I have set articles based on the reference requests within the document.
Some references are just a paragraph, some span multiple pages. Many are
sub paragraphs of larger sections. Thus many of the articles
&quot;overlap&quot; one another.<br>
I have set links to each article corresponding to the particular
reference.<br>
<br>
Checking the links (in either Exchange or Reader)<br>
some links, when going to the link, scrolling through and reading it,
when you reach the end, it goes back to the page you started from that
said &quot;See....&quot;<br>
My understanding is that this is exactly what is supposed to occur.<br>
<br>
The problem(s)<br>
some links, when going to the link, scrolling through and reading it,
when you reach the end, it either:<br>
1. keeps on going (beyond the specific article referenced)<br>
2. cycles back to the beginning of the article (like in a loop)<br>
3. cycles back to the top of the page that the referenced article was on
<br>
and then just keeps going.<br>
<br>
Is this because, due to the nature of this particular type of
documentation, the articles are on top of one another (because one area
will refer to the complete section of some title and another will refer
to only a specific paragraph or two of that section. and it is only
seeing the &quot;top most&quot; one.<br>
<br>
What would be the best way to handle this type of document?<br>
<br>
Thank you in advance<br>
<br>
Patti<br>
<br>
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</u><font size=1>Patti Copeland<br>
Digital Imaging Technician<br>
George Lithograph, PAA<br>
BofA On-Site at<br>
Corporate Publications #13258<br>
BAnet (or 415) 241-3056<br>
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</u><font size=1>George Lithograph [415] 715/2400<br>
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<br>
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I'm asking about prices on legitimate dongles and not paying full retail
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Can you put your Distiller "out" folder anywhere other than the same
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          Reply to:  Creation of thumbnails in 4
I can't seem to find the "create all thumbnails" option in Acrobat 4 that used to be in the " Document - Create all thumbnails" pull down menu in Acrobat Exchange 3. Has this been buried somewhere perhaps?

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> Can you put your Distiller "out" folder anywhere other than the same
> location as the "in" folder?  We run distiller on a Mac that 
> we use Dave to
> connect to an NT server.  We would like to locate the "out" 
> folder on the NT
> server.  We put the both on the NT server, but it takes to 
> long to process
> the PS files from the Mac to the server.  Can anyone help?

They have to be under the same directory, which means (except in
Unix where symbolic links can be used) on the same volume.

Remember that every client using the shared distiller needs an
Acrobat license.

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> I can't seem to find the "create all thumbnails" option in 
> Acrobat 4 that used to be in the " Document - Create all 
> thumbnails" pull down menu in Acrobat Exchange 3. Has this 
> been buried somewhere perhaps?

Don't forget Distiller 4.0 can make thumbnails.

You need to use the context menu (triangle, top right) in the Thumbnails
window of Acrobat 4.0. A lot of interesting options appear only
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Thank you. Would you like to come see our very expensive license agreement?

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> > Can you put your Distiller "out" folder anywhere other than the same
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> > we use Dave to
> > connect to an NT server.  We would like to locate the "out" 
> > folder on the NT
> > server.  We put the both on the NT server, but it takes to 
> > long to process
> > the PS files from the Mac to the server.  Can anyone help?
> 
> They have to be under the same directory, which means (except in
> Unix where symbolic links can be used) on the same volume.
> 
> Remember that every client using the shared distiller needs an
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pdf@lists.pdfzone.com writes:
>Don't forget Distiller 4.0 can make thumbnails.
>
>You need to use the context menu (triangle, top right) in the Thumbnails
>window of Acrobat 4.0. A lot of interesting options appear only
>in these context menus.

Aandi,

Actually in Adobe-speak these are called *palette menus* because they
pop-up on the corner of a palette.  (You'll also see them referred to as
such in such programs as Illustrator or Photoshop.) *Context menus* are
called up by right-clicking (Windows) or Control-clicking (Macintosh).
Sometimes they call out similar functions, sometimes different.

Just for the sake of clarity.

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Is this also true of Capture, since it utilizes the in/out folder
concept and can be located on a shared network folder?

Gary

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> They have to be under the same directory, which means (except in
> Unix where symbolic links can be used) on the same volume.
> 
> Remember that every client using the shared distiller needs an
> Acrobat license.
> 
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An excellent question. Has anyone clarified this point with
Adobe?

Aandi

> Is this also true of Capture, since it utilizes the in/out folder
> concept and can be located on a shared network folder?

> > Remember that every client using the shared distiller needs an
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> >You need to use the context menu (triangle, top right) in 
> the Thumbnails
> >window of Acrobat 4.0. A lot of interesting options appear only
> >in these context menus.
> 
> 
> Actually in Adobe-speak these are called *palette menus* because they
> pop-up on the corner of a palette.  (You'll also see them 
> referred to as
> such in such programs as Illustrator or Photoshop.) *Context 
> menus* are
> called up by right-clicking (Windows) or Control-clicking (Macintosh).
> Sometimes they call out similar functions, sometimes different.

Just to eliminate any clarity that may have crept in...

In Windows, at least, a context menu is indeed a right click menu, 
and the palettes have their own right click menu, which is in each 
case similar but not identical to the palette menu.

Now, Microsoft invented the Windows 95 keyboard with the three new keys
nobody uses. The key next to the right Ctrl key is the "context menu"
key, and is designed to be the same as a right click. The idea was that
novices don't remember to right click, so giving them a new key would
solve that problem. 

So, what do you get if you use the context menu key when positioned
in an Acrobat palette? You get the palette menu!

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          Reply to:  RE: [PDF] Creation of thumbnails in 4
>> I can't seem to find the "create all thumbnails" option in >> Acrobat 4 that used to be in the " Document - Create all >> thumbnails" pull down menu in Acrobat Exchange 3. Has this >> been buried somewhere perhaps?
>
>Don't forget Distiller 4.0 can make thumbnails.
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Lovely, thank you. It would have been a long time till I found it there on my own. Thanks again.

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Hi Listmates,

One of my associates has sent me an e-mail regarding the import 
of data into PDF form fields. My usual guru in these matters is 
unreachable and I'd like to help him out - which I can only do 
with your help at the moment.

mark@rose.com wrote:
>I've got a potential client who wants to import a few fields of data INTO
>corresponding PDF forms fields. You mentioned that you knew a PDF-savvy
>programmer. It's probably fairly straightforward, and I'm doing some
>research now. But it might be useful if you could put me in touch with the
>guy.

Can you please respond to Mark Lewiecki off-list at the following 
address....   mailto:mark@rose.com

Alternately, you can post to me directly and I'll forward the 
information, OR post to the list if it's generally relevant.
The posting of links to pertinent info is also very welcome.

Thanks so much,

Shane

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My understanding (operational and otherwise) is that Capture may be utilized
in this way.  After all, you pay by the click with Capture, so Adobe should
not care where the image jobs come from or go to.

Duff Johnson
President, Document Solutions, Inc.
http://www.document-solutions.com

> An excellent question. Has anyone clarified this point with
> Adobe?
> 
> Aandi
> 
> > Is this also true of Capture, since it utilizes the in/out folder
> > concept and can be located on a shared network folder?
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> > > Remember that every client using the shared distiller needs an
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Hello again,

As another reader suggested, I can send a screen capture to anyone who
might think they can lend some insight into this since "the weirdness" may
be hard to picture from my words alone.    (thanks, Richard)

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Whats the OS? Do they want a web based/intranet solution or C++/VB app?

Many ways to attack this.

Steve Aylor

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> Hi Listmates,
>
> One of my associates has sent me an e-mail regarding the import
> of data into PDF form fields. My usual guru in these matters is
> unreachable and I'd like to help him out - which I can only do
> with your help at the moment.
>
> mark@rose.com wrote:
> >I've got a potential client who wants to import a few fields of data INTO
> >corresponding PDF forms fields. You mentioned that you knew a PDF-savvy
> >programmer. It's probably fairly straightforward, and I'm doing some
> >research now. But it might be useful if you could put me in
> touch with the
> >guy.
>
> Can you please respond to Mark Lewiecki off-list at the following
> address....   mailto:mark@rose.com
>
> Alternately, you can post to me directly and I'll forward the
> information, OR post to the list if it's generally relevant.
> The posting of links to pertinent info is also very welcome.
>
> Thanks so much,
>
> Shane
>
> --
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> Project Head, dMACS Initiative
> Digital Magazine Advertising Canadian Specifications
> c/o ArchAngel Media Inc.
> 15 Kirkland Court, Richmond Hill, ON, CANADA L4C 9H4
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>
>Hi Listmates,
>
>One of my associates has sent me an e-mail regarding the import
>of data into PDF form fields. My usual guru in these matters is
>unreachable and I'd like to help him out - which I can only do
>with your help at the moment.
>
>mark@rose.com wrote:
>>I've got a potential client who wants to import a few fields of data INTO
>>corresponding PDF forms fields. You mentioned that you knew a PDF-savvy
>>programmer. It's probably fairly straightforward, and I'm doing some
>>research now. But it might be useful if you could put me in touch with the
>>guy.
>
>Can you please respond to Mark Lewiecki off-list at the following
>address....   mailto:mark@rose.com
>
>Alternately, you can post to me directly and I'll forward the
>information, OR post to the list if it's generally relevant.
>The posting of links to pertinent info is also very welcome.
>
>Thanks so much,
>
>Shane
>
>--
>Shane Steinman
>Project Head, dMACS Initiative
>Digital Magazine Advertising Canadian Specifications
>c/o ArchAngel Media Inc.
>15 Kirkland Court, Richmond Hill, ON, CANADA L4C 9H4
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> Yes, take a look at our View Info plug-in on our web site for a way to
> do it a file at a time, or our Options plug-in to do it in batch.

I have been looking at your Document Info plug-ins - View Info and Options
2.0 - for their applicability on a specific project. Without buying the
products can you tell me the following:

If I add new document fields to my PDFs, will these document fields show up
as searchable fields (if I elect to Show Fields in Acrobat Search
Preferences) for when I do cross-document searches? Is this true for
Reader+Search 3.x and 4.x?

Will Adobe Catalog index this information and include it in search scoring?


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On Fri, 14 May 1999 09:07:30 -0700, you wrote:

>IMHO, Adobe deserves money for their software - especially for Capture!  If
>you don't agree, I suggest you don't announce to the world (and to the
>Software Publishers Association) that your company (whose name is in your
>e-mail address) plans to buy and run illegal software.

I agree that Adobe deserves money for their software.  But I also HATE
dongles!!!!!

We own capture 1.0.  The ONLY reason we will never upgrade to the newer
version of capture is because the newer version requires a dongle.  Price is
not an issue, the dongle is an issue.

Dongles hang off of the printer port.  On a desktop PC that means that the
PC has to be pushed forward on the desk the length of the dongle.  That
means I loose that many square inches of desk space off my already cluttered
desk.  If I put the dongle on a floor mount PC, that PC has to that much
farther from the wall.

Just say NO to dongles!

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Dov Isaacs wrote:

> The printer in question, the Panasonic KXP5400, was a
> relatively inexpensive (at that time), early Adobe PostScript
> Level 2 printer with 300dpi resolution.

Right you are, Sir! You're one of the few that I know who has any idea
what this beast is. It wasn't on the market in the States for very long,
but it was a Godsend to me - saved me days every month going to and fro
to a service bureau for proofs.

> 2 Megabytes was the
> minimum amount of memory that the particular printer could
> run with. 

..and as far as I can tell, the most you could cram in was 4 MB.

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Hi,
Forgive me for posting a  odd request, but I believe someone out there will
be in a position to help me out. I have a workflow where good no of tiff
files are being transmitted over a dedicated link from one location to
another. The tiff file are CCITT group 4 compressed but still they are
using up the entire bandwidth of the link. Any tool/technique  to reduce
the size of File. The tiff files cintains text as well as graphics  and
both are required for processing.

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> 
> On Fri, 14 May 1999 09:07:30 -0700, you wrote:
> 
> >IMHO, Adobe deserves money for their software - especially 
> for Capture!  If
> >you don't agree, I suggest you don't announce to the world 
> (and to the
> >Software Publishers Association) that your company (whose 
> name is in your
> >e-mail address) plans to buy and run illegal software.
> 
> I agree that Adobe deserves money for their software.  But I also HATE
> dongles!!!!!

Let's not have dongle wars again...please!  We did that ad nauseum when
Capture 2.01 came out.  I've almost never known anyone who liked 'em.   They
are just something you deal with....
 
> We own capture 1.0.  The ONLY reason we will never upgrade to 
> the newer
> version of capture is because the newer version requires a 
> dongle.  Price is
> not an issue, the dongle is an issue.

Obviously, software capability, reliability and features are NOT issues for
you.

<SNIP>
 
> Just say NO to dongles!

Happily, there's more to software than the dongle....

END OF THREAD

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> I have a workflow where good 
> no of tiff
> files are being transmitted over a dedicated link from one location to
> another. The tiff file are CCITT group 4 compressed but still they are
> using up the entire bandwidth of the link. Any tool/technique 
>  to reduce
> the size of File. The tiff files cintains text as well as 
> graphics  and
> both are required for processing.

CCITT G4 files are about as well compressed as a bitonal image gets.  You
could pre-process the files to PDF/Normal, but I doubt such a substantial
workflow item would fit your plans.

You could also downsample the files to a lower dpi, which would reduce the
file size.  This might not be desirable either.  300 dpi ought to be safe
for most OCR needs -- if you're TIFFs are 400 dpi, you may want to think out
it.

Lastly, perhaps you could schedule your transfers for times when bandwidth
is less of an issue, say 2 am?

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On Sat, 15 May 1999 07:35:44 -0700, you wrote:

>Obviously, software capability, reliability and features are NOT issues for
>you.

Capability and reliability are not the issue.  If we need that capability,
there are lots of service companies we can just take our stuff to.  I let
them have all the hassles of the dongles.  But we rarely need to do that.

Dongles are not worth the hassle.  Have you ever had a PC stolen?  We have.
Someone broke into the build and stole a couple of PCs as well as destroying
a door.  It is hard enough dealing with the police and the insurance
companies.  Replacing the PCs was not a problem.  We have all the software
locked up in a firesafe, so that is not a problem.  Dongles are.  Do you
want to try and explain to you insurance company why you have to buy the
dongles?

We do daily backups of our network.  All the backups are stored in a
firesafe.  We also keep copies off site.  I know that a fire would be
devastating; but I also know that we could be back up and running as soon as
the hardware was replaced and the backups restored.  Dongles do not fit into
any disaster recovery plan that I can determine.  What would you have to do
if your company burned to the ground?  Could you recover?  Wouldn't all your
investment that is wrapped up in the dongles be burned up with no way to
recover that investment?

This is a serious question:  how does your disaster recover plan deal with
the need to replace the dongles?

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Electronic Data Processing or EDP Inland Marine Policies will cover the
extra expenses associated with temporarily sending your work to the service
bureau you mentioned. I will also mention, that unless your agent is not
that informed and your insurance company flakey, they will consider the
dongle as either EDP Hardware or Software and pay to replace it.  There are
7+ categories under and EDP Policy. Hardware, Software, Business
Interruption, etc.... When advising your agent about your EDP exposures
(actually he/she/it should be asking you!) Be sure to include the dongle
licensing in your values. Upon proof of purchase (which many carriers will
not even question if all seems in line) they will make you whole on the
"dongle" item as well.

If your having problems with your agent or carrier - you let me know - I'll
be glad to assist you with any advice, coaching etc. you may need.

Helping the IT Community Prevent Dongle Disaster!!! :-)


Steve Aylor
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> On Sat, 15 May 1999 07:35:44 -0700, you wrote:
>
> >Obviously, software capability, reliability and features are NOT
> issues for
> >you.
>
> Capability and reliability are not the issue.  If we need that capability,
> there are lots of service companies we can just take our stuff to.  I let
> them have all the hassles of the dongles.  But we rarely need to do that.
>
> Dongles are not worth the hassle.  Have you ever had a PC stolen?
>  We have.
> Someone broke into the build and stole a couple of PCs as well as
> destroying
> a door.  It is hard enough dealing with the police and the insurance
> companies.  Replacing the PCs was not a problem.  We have all the software
> locked up in a firesafe, so that is not a problem.  Dongles are.  Do you
> want to try and explain to you insurance company why you have to buy the
> dongles?
>
> We do daily backups of our network.  All the backups are stored in a
> firesafe.  We also keep copies off site.  I know that a fire would be
> devastating; but I also know that we could be back up and running
> as soon as
> the hardware was replaced and the backups restored.  Dongles do
> not fit into
> any disaster recovery plan that I can determine.  What would you
> have to do
> if your company burned to the ground?  Could you recover?
> Wouldn't all your
> investment that is wrapped up in the dongles be burned up with no way to
> recover that investment?
>
> This is a serious question:  how does your disaster recover plan deal with
> the need to replace the dongles?
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: jeffmcarthur@home.com [mailto:jeffmcarthur@home.com]

<SNIP>

> This is a serious question:  how does your disaster recover 
> plan deal with
> the need to replace the dongles?
 
More or less as Stephen indicates.  They are insured, and you can get the
overnighted.  Just like any other critical piece of gear (like a scanner), a
dongle is just a standard-ly obnoxious little bit of hardware, no more, no
less.  Read your insurance policy -- you are most likely covered on them
already.

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Oh, I see....

Its fine to guide someone to your website where they can order online your
Acrobat Plug-In or other piece of software. A blatant bit of self
promotion....

But whatever you do, do not offer advice or coaching about insurance
coverage as part of a disaster recovery plan - thats pushing the envelope.

If we're going to get anal about list policy, at least be consistant.  I
guess we now know the line is drawn at insurance topics.

Whatever......

> >If your having problems with your agent or carrier - you let me
> know - I'll
> >be glad to assist you with any advice, coaching etc. you may need.
>
> Before this turns into a blatant commercial solicitation for
> business -- or
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         Reply to:   RE: LIST POLICY REMINDER
While we are at it, it seems an appropriate time to mention that it seems that this list, differently from most, has its 'ad' at the top of every message. Often, this necessitates otherwise unnecessary scrolling to see what it is that we come here for, the information.

Might it be possible to put the 'ad' beneath the messages so that we don't have to scroll past the ads over and over and over again. I would imagine that the list people recognize that we don't even read them after the first few times as we merely know that its the same stuff over and over again. They merely are an annoyance and one that I would like to think can take their proper place in life (with is after the post).


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> Acrobat Plug-In or other piece of software. A blatant bit of self
> promotion....


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Robert

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The ads build brand awareness for pdfzone as well as bring in revenue to
their company: two completely legitimate functions.  If it's true that you
ignore them then just go ahead and continue ignoring them.

For those in different fields: we (that is, those of us who create software
and/or websites for a living) are entitled to make a living.  Whether you're
demanding free software or free website or free lists the request is
entirely unreasonable.

Finally, to get things back on subject does anybody know if it would be
inefficient to use the Tm operator, changing the last two fields (and just
keeping the rotation/skew at their defaults), when placing things for
absolute positioning rather than the Td operator?  Does Tm use more
computing power internally? Is there a limit to the number of times we could
change the matrix?  Td, TD, and ' seem more useful when doing things like
plotting a paragraph internally but Tm looks lots more powerful and also
allows you to not worry about the cumulative effect of other tags, which can
be useful in many circumstances.

Michael.
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that this list, differently from most, has its 'ad' at the top of every
message. Often, this necessitates otherwise unnecessary scrolling to see
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In the installation process of Adobe Acrobat 4 into a WNT4-SP3 =
WorkStation, I can see the Distiller printer driver created and =
immediately thereafter deleted ???? And this all happens during the =
installation. The message that the installation finished successfully is =
received, but the event log of the machine confirms that what I saw =
happening on the screen is true: the Distiller Driver gets deleted.=20

After restarting the machine, and even before restarting, the printer =
folder has the normal printers and also the PDFWriter driver, but not =
the Distiller driver.

If I try to use an application to generate a PDF file, (such as from a =
Word97 document) the process starts, but then stops and does not =
complete the task because (naturally) the Distiller driver is not found.

I found in the Adobe site a file which supposedly is able to install the =
Distiller Printer driver, Its name is APS5ENG.EXE. I got it and intend =
to use it next Monday.

Am I on the right track, or is there some other issue I should address =
first.

Thanks in advance for any help you may offer.

Pablo

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         Reply to:   RE: LIST POLICY REMINDER
I entirely understand their purpose. No explanation is necessary. I do not deny that they have a legitimate function. Thank you for allowing me to ignore them if I wish. 
And yes, I do create software and websites for a living. But I'm not demanding anything. And my request should not be viewed as being unreasonable as I've mentioned that most lists do not put their ad at the very top preceding the posts. Most are polite enough to place the ad beneath the post. Following the examples of the typical list should not be that demanding. But thanks for your views.


M. Olenick wrote:
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> > For those in different fields: we (that is, those of us who create software
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> demanding free software or free website or free lists the request is
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> > Michael.
> olenick@olen.com
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> Forgive me for posting a  odd request, but I believe someone out there will
> be in a position to help me out. I have a workflow where good no of tiff
> files are being transmitted over a dedicated link from one location to
> another. The tiff file are CCITT group 4 compressed but still they are
> using up the entire bandwidth of the link. Any tool/technique  to reduce
> the size of File. The tiff files cintains text as well as graphics  and
> both are required for processing.

Check out http://www.cartesianproductsinc.com/

They have compression software that can reduce your G4 Tiff to 15% of their
original size and can convert back to G4 Tiff.  In its native format it is far
better for displaying over the internet than PDF.

------------
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> Finally, to get things back on subject does anybody know if 
> it would be
> inefficient to use the Tm operator, changing the last two 
> fields (and just
> keeping the rotation/skew at their defaults), when placing things for
> absolute positioning rather than the Td operator?  Does Tm use more
> computing power internally? Is there a limit to the number of 
> times we could
> change the matrix?  

Tm is very inexpensive to use. The main cost of it is parsing
the numbers out of the command. All that then happens is that
six numbers are stored as the current text matrix, replacing the
old.

Every text placing instruction consults the text matrix (even if
Tm has not been used).	The reason for the other tags is to make
the page representation more compact. 

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mika@brewine.pp.fi wrote :

I have problem with printing with acrobat 4.0
platform is windows 95, printer is canon
colorpass 700/800 (postscript 2).
Forms are made with acrobat exchange 3.1
and there are print-buttons with script
this.print(true,0,1);

printing was fine with 3.1 but not with 4.0
error message in printing is:
"error: undefined
offending command: get"


It seems that there is a problem with reader 4 ; I work on a mac G3 with a epson 1520 with an optional PostScript kit (I can work with epson normal prinbt monitor or I can work with a ps printer server). No problem with reader 3 or echange 3, but with reader 4, if I try to print with the Epson print monitor, I have an error message : not enough memory... Even with 50 Mo memory, the same message and then a bomb on the system. With the PostScript kit, no problem as far I choose the "postscript file" option (and not "image file").  

S. d'ORNANO
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To Murali.J

In response to what programs convert True Type to Postscript Type 1 or 3
(Mac or PC).
You cvan use a program on Macintosh called Fontmonger created by ???
I am fairly sure it is illegal to convert fonts but this might solve your
problem.
I have used it with success on Fonts from PC customers converted to Type 1
for Mac so we don't get text reflows .

Hope this helps
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>> Hello Aandi,
>>
>> Thanks for your suggestion.  Actually the EPS file was created using the
>> Save As option available in QuarkXpress.  The file is printed well to
PDF,
>> if it is printed through Acrobat PDF writer. Whereas, if it is saved as
an
>> EPS file and then Distilled using Distiller, there we find problems.
>>
>> Our requirement is, the created QuarkXpress file should be saved as an
EPS
>> file and then converted to PDF, in order to get a Vector PDF file.  This
>> is where we find problems.  Is there any solution for this?
>>
>> Is there any tool to convert True Type fonts to Post Script Fonts, since
>> our customer is in want of those True Type Fonts?
>>
>> Any ideas/ suggestions.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Murali.J
>> "HAVE A NICE DAY"
>
>One should not use the PDF Writer for anything more than simple
>text-oriented documents.
>
>Making an eps file is also not the proper way to create a PDF file. You
>should be creating/printing a postscript file, then distilling that file to
>make your PDF.
>
>Your settings should be "embed all fonts and subset to 100%". The whole
idea
>of Acrobat (for some applications) is that there's no need to supply or
>convert fonts...they're included in the document.
>
>If you need a helper application to assist the production of PDFs, I sell
>EZ-PDF for $79.00, which makes desktop printers for the Mac. You just
choose
>the printer you want based on Distiller job options and print. Your PDF is
>created with no fuss. Fonts are included...resolution is correct for your
>use...downsampling is accomplished, etc.
>
>Let me know if you want more information on this great software tool.
>
>Rich
>
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I have the same problem with an Epson 3000 printer printing a 6 MB single
page PDF. With Reader 3, it's fine, but there is no multiple copy option.
With reader 4 or acrobat 4, the computer thrashes the harddrive, but ends up
giving me an out of memory warning.
Illustrator does the same printing to non-postscript printers. Iread in the
adobe magazine that all their apps share code bases, so I beleive that the
print rasterizer in AR4 is the same as AI8, giving me the same problems.

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mika@brewine.pp.fi wrote :

I have problem with printing with acrobat 4.0
platform is windows 95, printer is canon
colorpass 700/800 (postscript 2).
Forms are made with acrobat exchange 3.1
and there are print-buttons with script
this.print(true,0,1);

printing was fine with 3.1 but not with 4.0
error message in printing is:
"error: undefined
offending command: get"


It seems that there is a problem with reader 4 ; I work on a mac G3 with a
epson 1520 with an optional PostScript kit (I can work with epson normal
prinbt monitor or I can work with a ps printer server). No problem with
reader 3 or echange 3, but with reader 4, if I try to print with the Epson
print monitor, I have an error message : not enough memory... Even with 50
Mo memory, the same message and then a bomb on the system. With the
PostScript kit, no problem as far I choose the "postscript file" option (and
not "image file").

S. d'ORNANO
Les Ateliers du Boucaou. La Courgeyre. 40 110 Onesse.
tél/fax : 05 58 42 64 66
E mail : ateliers.boucaou@wanadoo.fr
http://pro.wanadoo.fr/ateliers.boucaou/

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I'm new to the list, new to Acrobat 4.0, and I have a question about how I
could use Acrobat 4.0 to create a form.

Many of you have probably seen Word documents that are functioning as forms,
but not very efficiently.  At the company where I work there is a Word
document that is used as a performance appraisal form.  When blank, this
document is about 4 pages long.  It has all the usual stuff in it -- several
stock criteria used for evaluating what the employee accomplished, space for
the evaluator to add comments, and a list of assessment options following
the comments field: excels, exceeds, attains, needs improvement, not
applicable.  The evaluator checks the option that applies.

Could a pdf form replace this word document and make life easier for
everyone?  What I picture is a real form, with blank spaces, electronic
signatures maybe, annotation features perhaps, and far fewer worries about
paragraph styles and template disorders and  viruses.

If anyone thinks this is feasible AND a good idea, I could use some advice
about what's involved and the steps I would need to take to get a prototype
up and running.  In case it matters, I am not sure exactly how many
evaluators would be using this form.  Between 15 and 20 is a guess.

Responding off-list is just fine with me.

Ted Ware
Cap Gemini America
(703) 734-1511  x 135

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Hi Joel.

The emailscript is a windows-only feature, and the client machine must have
its default mail program configured to be MAPI in order to use the
emailscript.. (I read that in the "Acrobat Forms JavaScript Object
Specification".

I have used this function though and it works fine..

/Martin


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> I am new to the list, so pardon me if this has been discussed before. I am
> using Acrobat 4.0 and I want to be able to e-mail form data from within a
> web browser. I am using a Java script within the PDF file to e-mail the
> form information, but I get an error when I try to send the e-mail from
> another computer in the office using the Reader 4.0. If I send the e-mail
> from my computer to myself via the submit button, it works. Is this a
> function that only exists in Acrobat or am I doing something wrong in my
> script? Help!!!!!!
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Hi Joel,

> Is this a function that only exists in Acrobat or am I doing something
wrong in my script? Help!!!!!!

This function does not appear to be available in the free Reader (and I
would suggest it is because it requires a save of the FDF file, or PDF
file itself - that by policy is not a Reader allowable function). 

I cannot see a reference to this in the JavaScript documentation (and I
may certainly have missed it), however, I created a simple button with a
Javascript action to call mailDoc and it worked in the full Acrobat and
did not in Reader.

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Ted,

the short answer is "absolutely".

You might have a look at the samples on the Acrobat CD-ROM (or download
them from the Adobe website). There are some cases showing how "pre-Acrobat
4" signatures are handled. The advantage of this is that these forms do run
under the free Reader. On the other hand, if you want to actively use the
new electronic signatures or the annotation features, you would need the
full product (this just for "convincing" the beancounters).

How much effort would go into it for a prototype? It depends a lot on how
much you would have to improve the look of the form, and how much
"intelligence" you put in. But I guess within a day or so, you should have
something presentable. One note, however, about the layout of the form:
whenever possible, do the layout with a layout or illustration program, and
not with a word processor.

Hope, this can help.


Max Wyss
PRODOK Engineering
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>I'm new to the list, new to Acrobat 4.0, and I have a question about how I
>could use Acrobat 4.0 to create a form.
>
>Many of you have probably seen Word documents that are functioning as forms,
>but not very efficiently.  At the company where I work there is a Word
>document that is used as a performance appraisal form.  When blank, this
>document is about 4 pages long.  It has all the usual stuff in it -- several
>stock criteria used for evaluating what the employee accomplished, space for
>the evaluator to add comments, and a list of assessment options following
>the comments field: excels, exceeds, attains, needs improvement, not
>applicable.  The evaluator checks the option that applies.
>
>Could a pdf form replace this word document and make life easier for
>everyone?  What I picture is a real form, with blank spaces, electronic
>signatures maybe, annotation features perhaps, and far fewer worries about
>paragraph styles and template disorders and  viruses.
>
>If anyone thinks this is feasible AND a good idea, I could use some advice
>about what's involved and the steps I would need to take to get a prototype
>up and running.  In case it matters, I am not sure exactly how many
>evaluators would be using this form.  Between 15 and 20 is a guess.
>
>Responding off-list is just fine with me.
>
>Ted Ware


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Vinod Sharma a écrit :

> Forgive me for posting a  odd request, but I believe someone out there will
> be in a position to help me out. I have a workflow where good no of tiff
> files are being transmitted over a dedicated link from one location to
> another. The tiff file are CCITT group 4 compressed but still they are
> using up the entire bandwidth of the link. Any tool/technique  to reduce
> the size of File. The tiff files cintains text as well as graphics  and
> both are required for processing.

If your TIFF/CCITT G4 files contain only text and vector graphics (i.e. B&W
pixels), use of JBIG instead of CCITT4 would save 20-50% according to JBIG
supporters. Some viewers/converters are JBIG compatible.
On the other hand, if your TIFF/CCITT G4 files contain text + graphics photos
grey or color  (CCITT4 is then very bad), you might save a lot of space using
DjVu (already mentioned last week as an answer to another message – see AT&T
Labs and FEITH web sites).
In both cases, the question is : what does the addressee intend to do with
these files ? Involved software has to support these formats, or to
re-translate files into TIFF/CCITT G4 before processing …

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Hello :

We are trying to do a comercial catalog in PDF, and distributed in CD ROM.
(Similar (not equal)  to those "shoping carts" in web pages)

The catalog has a form which we want to fill, automatically, from the
articles pages.

Let's say I arrive to an article's page. I push a button and the article
appears in the form automatically (No matter where I am in the catalog).

Does anybody know how to do this? Is it posible? (I hope the explanation is
enough)

Where should we start by?...

Any help will be welcome.

TIA. Carlos Gonzalez.

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I need the server side printing facillities offered by ADS for my company.
Does anyone know how I get a copy? Adobe's site indicates that I can't
simply buy it (!?). Does anyone know of products offering similar
functionality?

James

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Hello James,

I do not know of products that offer off-the-shelf server side printing.
This would not be a very complicated application to write - if you have
access to a programmer then I can give some pointers as to how to go
about it.

Alternatively, if you contact me privately I will be able to assist you
with acquiring ADS (it is a product that must be sold by a Systems
Integrator).

> I need the server side printing facillities offered by ADS 
> for my company.
> Does anyone know how I get a copy? Adobe's site indicates that I can't
> simply buy it (!?). Does anyone know of products offering similar
> functionality?

regards,

Karl De Abrew
karl@PlanetPDF.com
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Carlos,

Such a thing is possible with JavaScript. I have implemented it in two
projects so far. One catalog  CD will soon be released, the other one is on
hold for reasons beyond my control.

How it can be implemented depends on the way your catalog information is
set up.

Hope, this can help.

Max Wyss
PRODOK Engineering
Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing
CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland

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>We are trying to do a comercial catalog in PDF, and distributed in CD ROM.
>(Similar (not equal)  to those "shoping carts" in web pages)
>
>The catalog has a form which we want to fill, automatically, from the
>articles pages.
>
>Let's say I arrive to an article's page. I push a button and the article
>appears in the form automatically (No matter where I am in the catalog).
>
>Does anybody know how to do this? Is it posible? (I hope the explanation is
>enough)
>
>Where should we start by?...
>
>Any help will be welcome.
>
>TIA. Carlos Gonzalez.


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Max:  Just curious - why do you suggest using a page layout program over a
wordprocessing program for the form?
SueG
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>Ted,
>
>the short answer is "absolutely".
>
>You might have a look at the samples on the Acrobat CD-ROM (or download
>them from the Adobe website). There are some cases showing how "pre-Acrobat
>4" signatures are handled. The advantage of this is that these forms do run
>under the free Reader. On the other hand, if you want to actively use the
>new electronic signatures or the annotation features, you would need the
>full product (this just for "convincing" the beancounters).
>
>How much effort would go into it for a prototype? It depends a lot on how
>much you would have to improve the look of the form, and how much
>"intelligence" you put in. But I guess within a day or so, you should have
>something presentable. One note, however, about the layout of the form:
>whenever possible, do the layout with a layout or illustration program, and
>not with a word processor.
>
>Hope, this can help.
>
>
>Max Wyss
>PRODOK Engineering
>Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing
>CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland
>
>Fax:  +41 1 700 20 37
>e-mail:  mailto:prodok@prodok.ch
>WWW:  http://www.prodok.ch/prodok
>
>
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>
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>
>
>>I'm new to the list, new to Acrobat 4.0, and I have a question about how I
>>could use Acrobat 4.0 to create a form.
>>
>>Many of you have probably seen Word documents that are functioning as
forms,
>>but not very efficiently.  At the company where I work there is a Word
>>document that is used as a performance appraisal form.  When blank, this
>>document is about 4 pages long.  It has all the usual stuff in it --
several
>>stock criteria used for evaluating what the employee accomplished, space
for
>>the evaluator to add comments, and a list of assessment options following
>>the comments field: excels, exceeds, attains, needs improvement, not
>>applicable.  The evaluator checks the option that applies.
>>
>>Could a pdf form replace this word document and make life easier for
>>everyone?  What I picture is a real form, with blank spaces, electronic
>>signatures maybe, annotation features perhaps, and far fewer worries about
>>paragraph styles and template disorders and  viruses.
>>
>>If anyone thinks this is feasible AND a good idea, I could use some advice
>>about what's involved and the steps I would need to take to get a
prototype
>>up and running.  In case it matters, I am not sure exactly how many
>>evaluators would be using this form.  Between 15 and 20 is a guess.
>>
>>Responding off-list is just fine with me.
>>
>>Ted Ware
>
>
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> however, I created a simple button with a
> Javascript action to call mailDoc and it worked in the full Acrobat and
> did not in Reader.

Yes, this is a full Acrobat-only method.


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Hello PDF Wizards,

We are using PDFs on an Extranet (with SSL enabled), and have erratic =
problems viewing them with Netscape 4.0 while IE browsers seem to work =
just fine.  When clicking on a link to a PDF, some open up in the =
browser, while others do not.  Any suggestions?! =20

Many thanks for your help...
-shane

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That's a known Netscape 4.x bug. Here is the workaround provided by the folks at Netscape:

Exit Netscape, then add this to the end of your prefs.js file (in the Netscape folder):

user_pref("browser.cache.disk_cache_ssl", true);

Then launch Netscape again

After you do this, you can open pdf files served via SSL


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> > however, I created a simple button with a
> > Javascript action to call mailDoc and it worked in the full 
> Acrobat and
> > did not in Reader.
> 
> Yes, this is a full Acrobat-only method.

Sadly, the documentation does not say so, as it does for other
methods like EXPORT. This is going to cause a lot of annoyance
and time-wasting, I'm sure.

Aandi

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<a href="javascript:makewin('Healthcare_Medical_Dental_Plans.pdf',
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align="center">View</div></FONT></A>

These javascript codes open up the document called
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Aandi Inston wrote:

> > Yes, this is a full Acrobat-only method.
>
> Sadly, the documentation does not say so, as it does for other
> methods like EXPORT. This is going to cause a lot of annoyance
> and time-wasting, I'm sure.

You are right, and I've made a note to get it fixed. The reason it is
not available for Reader is that the SendMail plug-in isn't there...


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>2.     I am also interested to know if there is a way to merge one=
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>file on top of another one.  My idea is this.  I want to create postscript
>files with Word, Excel, etc=85  I am then going to write a program to=
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>postscript file that would be like an 'address label', from data in a
>database.  I would want the address label postscript file to print on top=
 of
>the original postscript file.  I am creating a custom mail merge program.
>
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depends on your output solution.
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separate page)
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Patti Copeland
Digital Imaging Technician
George Lithograph, PAA
BofA On-Site at
Corporate Publications #13258
BAnet [or 415] 241-3056
Patti
Copeland@bankamerica.com                                                  =
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<div>&gt;2.<x-tab>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</x-tab>I am also
interested to know if there is a way to merge one postscript</div>
<div>&gt;file on top of another one.&nbsp; My idea is this.&nbsp; I want
to create postscript</div>
<div>&gt;files with Word, Excel, etc=85&nbsp; I am then going to write a
program to create a</div>
<div>&gt;postscript file that would be like an 'address label', from data
in a</div>
<div>&gt;database.&nbsp; I would want the address label postscript file
to print on top of</div>
<div>&gt;the original postscript file.&nbsp; I am creating a custom mail
merge program.</div>
<div>&gt;</div>
<div>&gt;ROB, </div>
<div>depends on your output solution.</div>
<div>the following, if its of any help, idea wise, </div>
<div>is a different solution, and is what we use for DocuTech.</div>
<br>
<div>Address database file, tab delimited (Word)</div>
<div>Addressing layout (to position) in FileMaker Pro</div>
<div>import database into FMpro</div>
<div>postscript, Distill send to DocuTech. (each name/address is in
position on a separate page)</div>
<div>this merges at the DocuTech and becomes becomes page 1 of
newsletter, etc&nbsp; (PDF file)</div>
<div>which receives media server addressing.</div>
<br>
Patti
<br>

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> however, I created a simple button with a
> Javascript action to call mailDoc and it worked in the full Acrobat and
> did not in Reader.

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> 1.	I am looking for a command line utility / program that
> will convert a
> postscript file to PDF and set the security options as well.

Distiller 4.0.

> 2.	I am also interested to know if there is a way to merge
> one postscript
> file on top of another one.  My idea is this.  I want to
> create postscript
> files with Word, Excel, etc…  I am then going to write a
> program to create a
> postscript file that would be like an 'address label', from data in a
> database.  I would want the address label postscript file to
> print on top of
> the original postscript file.  I am creating a custom mail
> merge program.

This requires extensive PostScript knowledge, and it not possible
in all cases, though it can often be achieved for PostScript
from specific sources. Multi-page PostScript files, though, can
be impossible to merge.

Most mail merge proposals I see which involve PDF or PostScript
would much better be done in an application which supports mail
merges e.g. Word.

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I have two questions.
1.	I am looking for a command line utility / program that will convert a
postscript file to PDF and set the security options as well.
2.	I am also interested to know if there is a way to merge one postscript
file on top of another one.  My idea is this.  I want to create postscript
files with Word, Excel, etc…  I am then going to write a program to create a
postscript file that would be like an 'address label', from data in a
database.  I would want the address label postscript file to print on top of
the original postscript file.  I am creating a custom mail merge program.

Thank for any help,
Rob Benjamin
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I hope someone may have some suggestions for me regarding the following. 
It looks like I have pushed the envelope and left the box on what articles and
links can do....

WIN NT4.0
Acrobat Exchange 3.01

Bank Disclosure Documents 
anywhere from 80-120 pages
within the document, there are multiple references to see such-n-such a
section

on page such-n-such.
PDF with bookmarks, links to other areas of the document for Bank Intranet
viewing and reference.

I have set articles based on the reference requests within the document. Some
references are just a paragraph, some span multiple pages. Many are sub
paragraphs of larger sections. Thus many of the articles "overlap" one
another.
I have set links to each article corresponding to the particular reference.

Checking the links (in either Exchange or Reader)
some links, when going to the link, scrolling through and reading it, when you
reach the end, it goes back to the page you started from that said "See...."
My understanding is that this is exactly what is supposed to occur.

The problem(s)
some links, when going to the link, scrolling through and reading it, when you
reach the end, it either:
1. keeps on going (beyond the specific article referenced)
2. cycles back to the beginning of the article (like in a loop)
3. cycles back to the top of the page that the referenced article was on 
and then just keeps going.

Is this because, due to the nature of this particular type of documentation,
many articles are "on top of one another" (because one area will refer to the
complete section of some title and another will refer to only a specific
paragraph or two of that section. and it is only seeing maybe, the "top most"
one.

What would be the best way to handle this type of document?
Originally PM6.5...Am willing to go to the source, if necessary.


Thank you in advance

Anyone having trouble comprehending this and wanting to view the Exchange
document, contact me directly, off the list and I will send you the file. If a
solution is reached offline, I will post to the list.

Patti

                                            
Patti Copeland
Digital Imaging Technician
George Lithograph, PAA
BofA On-Site at
Corporate Publications #13258
BAnet (or 415) 241-3056
                                                          
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<html>
I hope someone may have some suggestions for me regarding the following.
<br>
It looks like I have pushed the envelope and left the box on what
articles and links can do....<br>
<br>
WIN NT4.0<br>
Acrobat Exchange 3.01<br>
<br>
Bank Disclosure Documents <br>
anywhere from 80-120 pages<br>
within the document, there are multiple references to see such-n-such a
section <br>
on page such-n-such.<br>
PDF with bookmarks, links to other areas of the document for Bank
Intranet viewing and reference.<br>
<br>
I have set articles based on the reference requests within the document.
Some references are just a paragraph, some span multiple pages. Many are
sub paragraphs of larger sections. Thus many of the articles
&quot;overlap&quot; one another.<br>
I have set links to each article corresponding to the particular
reference.<br>
<br>
Checking the links (in either Exchange or Reader)<br>
some links, when going to the link, scrolling through and reading it,
when you reach the end, it goes back to the page you started from that
said &quot;See....&quot;<br>
My understanding is that this is exactly what is supposed to occur.<br>
<br>
The problem(s)<br>
some links, when going to the link, scrolling through and reading it,
when you reach the end, it either:<br>
1. keeps on going (beyond the specific article referenced)<br>
2. cycles back to the beginning of the article (like in a loop)<br>
3. cycles back to the top of the page that the referenced article was on
<br>
and then just keeps going.<br>
<br>
Is this because, due to the nature of this particular type of
documentation, many articles are &quot;on top of one another&quot;
(because one area will refer to the complete section of some title and
another will refer to only a specific paragraph or two of that section.
and it is only seeing maybe, the &quot;top most&quot; one.<br>
<br>
What would be the best way to handle this type of document?<br>
Originally PM6.5...Am willing to go to the source, if necessary.<br>
<br>
<br>
Thank you in advance<br>
<br>
Anyone having trouble comprehending this and wanting to view the Exchange
document, contact me directly, off the list and I will send you the file.
If a solution is reached offline, I will post to the list.<br>
<br>
Patti<br>
<br>
<font size=1><u>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
<br>
</u><font size=1>Patti Copeland<br>
Digital Imaging Technician<br>
George Lithograph, PAA<br>
BofA On-Site at<br>
Corporate Publications #13258<br>
BAnet (or 415) 241-3056<br>
<font size=1><u>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
<br>
</u><font size=1>George Lithograph [415] 715-2400<br>
</font><font size=1 color="#0000FF"><u>pcopelan@george.com<br>
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Sue,

glad you asked <g>.

In short: you have control over the layout.

A bit more verbose: As a form is rather layout intensive, and requires more
space than normal body text, you need way more effort to do something
(esthetically) pleasing than with a layout program. In a layout program,
and even better in a illustration program, you have more precision for the
graphic elements, as well as for text.

As you will in any case go through the PostScript/Distiller path,
particularly if you defnie form fields with PDFMARK commands, you need good
PostScript support. In a decent layout program you have that. In a word
processor, you really have to know what you are doing.

Hope, this can explain my reasoning a bit.

Take care.


Max Wyss
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>Max:  Just curious - why do you suggest using a page layout program over a
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Would anybody be aware of a utility that could merge single page PDF image
(that originated from a conversion (through ARTS IMPORT) TIF (single page)
to PDF Image conversion based on a file name convention that would recognize
a page numbering scheme prior to the DOT???

PS don't mention the use of multiimage tif files, remember the limitation of
the IMPORT plug-in of 100 pages...

Pls if I am not clear enough, let me know.

Regards
mlaurin@a2i.ca
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Max Wyss wrote:
>As you will in any case go through the PostScript/Distiller path,
>particularly if you defnie form fields with PDFMARK commands, you need good
>PostScript support. In a decent layout program you have that. In a word
>processor, you really have to know what you are doing.

Many of the Page Layout programs such as FrameMaker already have built in
support for PDFMark. You can either edit this manually or use a plug-in such
as our PageForm product for PageMaker which can be downloaded as a beta from
our web site which will add the PDFMark invisibly.

Regards
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Michael,

thanks for reminding us about layout program add-ons. As I sometimes prefer
to "fly by hand", I wasn't thinking of the "autopilots" <g>.

How would you compare your plug-in to the word processor approaches (where
some programs actually do have a forms feature. Also, how do you place the
plug-in with forms design software, such as Jetform? As I can imagine
that's the two main competitive approaches.


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>Many of the Page Layout programs such as FrameMaker already have built in
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>as our PageForm product for PageMaker which can be downloaded as a beta from
>our web site which will add the PDFMark invisibly.
>
>Regards
>Michael Peters




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Hi all,
Can someone help me to solve my problem.?

Usually PDF files are written in the Encrypted format.
Using Acrobat reader, we can open any PDF document.
Acrobat compiler internally computes the Key for decrypting the
document.

Can anyone know how the key is computed.?
Is that process  is OPEN.?

I have gone throught the PDF Reference Manual Version 1.2.
I have some doubts about the Encryption/Decryption algorithm specified
in this manual.

There they have specified, that PDF includes one built-in method for
computing the key, called "Standard".
That Standard algorithm is specified in Algorithm 6.3.

Algorithm follows (present in the PDF Reference Document - Version 1.2).

One function of a security handler is to produce a five-byte key that is
provided as input to the PDF encryption algorithm.   Given a password
string, the standard security handler computes an encryption key using
Algorithm 6.3:

Algorithm 6.3 : Computing an encryption key

1. Truncate the password string to 32 bytes. (Treat an omitted password
as an empty string.) If the string is less than 32 bytes long, pad it
with bytes from the following string to make it exactly 32 bytes long:

<28 BF 4E 5E 4E 75 8A 41 64 00 4E 56 FF FA 01
08 2E 2E 00 B6 D0 68 3E 80 2F 0C A9 FE 64 53 69 7A>

Pad the password string from the beginning of the pad string. That is,
if the password string is n bytes long,
concatenate bytes 1 to 32 – n of the pad string to the password string.

2. Provide the string as input to the MD5 hash function.

3. Input the value of the Encryption dictionary’s O (Owner) key (a
32-byte string) to the MD5 hash function.
(Algorithm 6.4 explains how the O string is computed.)

4. Treat the value of the P (Permissions) key as an unsigned four-byte
integer, and provide these bytes to the MD5 hash function, low-order
byte first.

5. Input the first element of the fileID to the MD5 hash function.

6. The first five bytes of the MD5 output make up the encryption key.

The encryption key is used to encrypt strings and stream data.  The same
key decrypts data as well.

Now my doubts...
1. In the step 2, we provide the output of step 1 as input to MD5 hash
function.
2. In the step 3, again we have to input the value of Encryption
dictionary to MD5 hash  function..
 ....
.....
3. Finally in the step 6, it is specified that the first 5 bytes of the
MD5 output make the encryption key.

Please note that we will get output from MD5 hash function from the step
2, step 3, step 4 and step 5.

Which one we have to take.?   Is there any way to proceed to get the
key.?
Is it possible to find the key and decrypt any document.?

Please suggest me to solve my problems

Thanks and Regards

Arumugam


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<html>
Hi all,
<br>Can someone help me to solve my problem.?
<p>Usually PDF files are written in the Encrypted format.
<br>Using Acrobat reader, we can open any PDF document.
<br>Acrobat compiler internally computes the Key for decrypting the document.
<p>Can anyone know how the key is computed.?
<br>Is that process&nbsp; is OPEN.?
<p>I have gone throught the PDF Reference Manual Version 1.2.
<br>I have some doubts about the Encryption/Decryption algorithm specified
in this manual.
<p>There they have specified, that PDF includes one built-in method for
computing the key, called "Standard".
<br>That Standard algorithm is specified in Algorithm 6.3.
<p>Algorithm follows (present in the PDF Reference Document - Version 1.2).
<p>One function of a security handler is to produce a five-byte key that
is provided as input to the PDF encryption algorithm.&nbsp;&nbsp; Given
a password string, the standard security handler computes an encryption
key using Algorithm 6.3:
<p><b>Algorithm 6.3</b> : Computing an encryption key
<p>1. Truncate the password string to 32 bytes. (Treat an omitted password
as an empty string.) If the string is less than 32 bytes long, pad it with
bytes from the following string to make it exactly 32 bytes long:
<p>&lt;28 BF 4E 5E 4E 75 8A 41 64 00 4E 56 FF FA 01
<br>08 2E 2E 00 B6 D0 68 3E 80 2F 0C A9 FE 64 53 69 7A>
<p>Pad the password string from the beginning of the pad string. That is,
if the password string is n bytes long,
<br>concatenate bytes 1 to 32 – n of the pad string to the password string.
<p>2. Provide the string as input to the MD5 hash function.
<p>3. Input the value of the Encryption dictionary’s O (Owner) key (a 32-byte
string) to the MD5 hash function.
<br>(Algorithm 6.4 explains how the O string is computed.)
<p>4. Treat the value of the P (Permissions) key as an unsigned four-byte
integer, and provide these bytes to the MD5 hash function, low-order byte
first.
<p>5. Input the first element of the fileID to the MD5 hash function.
<p>6. The first five bytes of the MD5 output make up the encryption key.
<p>The encryption key is used to encrypt strings and stream data.&nbsp;
The same key decrypts data as well.
<p>Now my doubts...
<br>1. In the step 2, we provide the output of step 1 as input to MD5 hash
function.
<br>2. In the step 3, again we have to input the value of Encryption dictionary
to MD5 hash&nbsp; function..
<br>&nbsp;....
<br>.....
<br>3. Finally in the step 6, it is specified that the first 5 bytes of
the MD5 output make the encryption key.
<p>Please note that we will get output from MD5 hash function from the
step 2, step 3, step 4 and step 5.
<p>Which one we have to take.?&nbsp;&nbsp; Is there any way to proceed
to get the key.?
<br>Is it possible to find the key and decrypt any document.?
<p>Please suggest me to solve my problems
<p>Thanks and Regards
<p>Arumugam
<br>&nbsp;</html>

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Max Wyss wrote:

> How would you compare your plug-in to the word processor
> approaches (where
> some programs actually do have a forms feature. Also, how do
> you place the
> plug-in with forms design software, such as Jetform? As I can imagine
> that's the two main competitive approaches.

Well our software is specifically designed for creating PDF and so the
functional compare needs to be done between Acrobat Forms and JetForm.
However, when using PageForm you are already using an application that
already has good PDF output facilities in PageMaker (I am biased because we
originally developed it for Adobe). PageMaker has far superior typesetting
facilities to a word processor in terms of accuracy and final output. I
don't really want to start a war here between page layout tools and word
processors, but I don't know of any word processors that are capable of
outputting PDF forms. You could put pdfmark into Word, but by the time that
the average user has worked out all of the coordinates and dictionaries it
would probably have been quicker to do it manually in Acrobat. However
PageForm is almost identical in terms of functionality to Acrobat Forms 3.5
and Acrobat 4 without the hassle of having to work out the PDFMark (most of
which is not documented).

Of course the main reason for having the forms authoring as well as the
ability to set all of the other interactive elements in the original
application is to streamline the workflow. There is nothing worse than
having to leave space in your layout so that you can add the form fields
later in Acrobat. You then output to PDF, create your form and then someone
wants to add another heading or paragraph in the middle.......

Jetform is a good product, but what happens if you want to have the form on
the Internet and/or all of your other documentation is already in Acrobat?


Regards
Michael Peters
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Rob Benjamin
Smith-Emery Co. wrote....
--snip--
I have two questions.
1. I am looking for a command line utility / program that will convert a
postscript file to PDF and set the security options as well.
2. I am also interested to know if there is a way to merge one postscript
file on top of another one.  My idea is this.  I want to create postscript
files with Word, Excel, etc…  I am then going to write a program to create a
postscript file that would be like an 'address label', from data in a
database.  I would want the address label postscript file to print on top of
the original postscript file.  I am creating a custom mail merge program.
--snip--
1). Acrobat Distiller 4 does this
2). We developed a Mail Merge product last year which merges a standard
c.s.v. data file through a special template file onto a standard PDF file,
creating a resultant multi-page PDF file, which can be saved or printed.
This feature is also built into our PDF Publisher product aimed at users of
digital high volume printers who want to submit and construct large printing
jobs, over-the-web, on-the-fly.
Contact me off-line for more details.

Peter Mathews
Computerstream Ltd
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Arumugam wrote:

 > Can anyone know how the key is computed.?
 > Is that process  is OPEN.?
 > I have gone throught the PDF Reference Manual Version 1.2.
 > I have some doubts about the Encryption/Decryption algorithm specified in
this manual.

I think that this would be better placed on the pdfdev list.

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I can place a PDF file (created with either Acrobat 4 or 3.01) into Lotus Notes
4.6.2 using OLE automation,  but am unable to view the PDF file from within
Notes.  I get a "there was an error processing a page" error; sometimes it is
preceeded by a "read less image data than expected" error.  The PDF files can be
successfully read when opened directly in Acrobat 4.

Has anyone successfully used OLE automation with Lotus Notes 4.6 & Acrobat 4.0??
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I have upgraded to Acrobat 4.0 and would like to batch PDF the contents of
a folder.  Where is this set up.  How can I set it up so that if it incurs
an error on a file that it logs the error and continues with the batch
process.
 Also when I PDF a Word 97 document that has multiple relative links within
the document, some files pdf others I receive an error, unable to write
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Hi Folks - 

We have a potential project on-site that might involve the CAPTURE-ing
of thousands of pages of engineering data that is now hardcopy only.
I'm having a problem with the engineers defining their goals for this
data, but pretty much am sure they would like OCR but without alteration
of the page image.  Thus, CAPTURE!!  We have a Doc Management system
that could handle the management and display of the PDF files as part of
a document vault.  My concern is the actual scanning to PDF.  How does
one go about finding a good service bureau that could handle this?  As I
said, it's thousands of pages of not very good (light) printout, and
much of it is not oriented in portrait layout.

We are in Southern California  (Torrance).

rebecca

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Aandi Inston has answered Question #1.

Re. Question #2: I think you're doing it the hard way because -

  First: There are lots of off-the-shelf software solutions that will
probably do what you want. Second: If for some reason you really want or
need to do custom programming, there's a better way to go about it. If you
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- Cynthia Leslie

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I have two questions.
1.	I am looking for a command line utility / program that will convert
a
postscript file to PDF and set the security options as well.
2.	I am also interested to know if there is a way to merge one
postscript
file on top of another one.  My idea is this.  I want to create postscript
files with Word, Excel, etc...  I am then going to write a program to create
a
postscript file that would be like an 'address label', from data in a
database.  I would want the address label postscript file to print on top of
the original postscript file.  I am creating a custom mail merge program.

Thank for any help,
Rob Benjamin
Smith-Emery Co.


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You are doing it the hard way. You can buy software that will accomplish
what you describe below. Look at PrintShop Mail from Atlas Software:
www.printshopmail.com <http://www.printshopmail.com> .
 
- Cynthia Leslie

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>2.     I am also interested to know if there is a way to merge one
postscript
>file on top of another one.  My idea is this.  I want to create postscript
>files with Word, Excel, etc...  I am then going to write a program to
create a
>postscript file that would be like an 'address label', from data in a
>database.  I would want the address label postscript file to print on top
of
>the original postscript file.  I am creating a custom mail merge program.
>
>ROB, 
depends on your output solution.
the following, if its of any help, idea wise, 
is a different solution, and is what we use for DocuTech.

Address database file, tab delimited (Word)
Addressing layout (to position) in FileMaker Pro
import database into FMpro
postscript, Distill send to DocuTech. (each name/address is in position on a
separate page)
this merges at the DocuTech and becomes becomes page 1 of newsletter, etc
(PDF file)
which receives media server addressing.

Patti 
                                            
Patti Copeland
Digital Imaging Technician
George Lithograph, PAA
BofA On-Site at
Corporate Publications #13258
BAnet [or 415] 241-3056
Patti Copeland@bankamerica.com

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Was your company represented at the On Demand Conference in New York City a
couple of weeks ago? I was there and don't remember seeing a booth for
Computerstream Ltd.

Also - what is a "c.s.v. data file"?

- Cynthia Leslie

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Rob Benjamin
Smith-Emery Co. wrote....
--snip--
I have two questions.
1. I am looking for a command line utility / program that will convert a
postscript file to PDF and set the security options as well.
2. I am also interested to know if there is a way to merge one postscript
file on top of another one.  My idea is this.  I want to create postscript
files with Word, Excel, etc...  I am then going to write a program to create
a
postscript file that would be like an 'address label', from data in a
database.  I would want the address label postscript file to print on top of
the original postscript file.  I am creating a custom mail merge program.
--snip--
1). Acrobat Distiller 4 does this
2). We developed a Mail Merge product last year which merges a standard
c.s.v. data file through a special template file onto a standard PDF file,
creating a resultant multi-page PDF file, which can be saved or printed.
This feature is also built into our PDF Publisher product aimed at users of
digital high volume printers who want to submit and construct large printing
jobs, over-the-web, on-the-fly.
Contact me off-line for more details.

Peter Mathews
Computerstream Ltd
Ashby de la Zouch
Leicestershire.
www.computerstream.co.uk



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I had a client who received some technical documentation created in the 
Japanese version of Acrobat 3.0. The problem stems from the fonts not being 
embedded into the PDF rendering the file virtually useless on this end.

Calls to Adobe tech support stated that the version is not covered under my 
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Anyone have any information on this version of Acrobat?

Thanks

Rob Robertson
Cybergraphix, Inc.

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Greetings all.

I am having trouble with Acrobat ver 3.01 on my peer-to-peer network. I
have 5 PC's running Windows 95, ver. 4.00.950B. All my computers are
Pentium II, with at least 32 MB of ram with at least a 6 Gig HD's. In
addition the programs that I have loaded are MS OFFICE 97 (not complete,
just Word & Excel.), Acrobat Exchange, James RIver Groups's Dejawin
(Unix emulation software), Cheyenne's Bitware (fax software), Act! 3.0,
and HP 6L, and HP 6L PCL printing software/ drivers. 

I have 2 reoccurring problems that I could use assistance with. 

A) It seems that Acrobat does not like my systems for rather frequently
I find all, or most of my computers have disappeared from my Network
Neighborhood. This happens for no reason that I can tell. I thought it
might be due to fluctuations in the electrical current due to the wiring
of my building, but I really have no idea. When I try and restart my
computers, it doesn't work. I have to manually hit the power down / or
restart button (it freezes when trying to shutdown or restart on it's
own). 

I am going to install a server soon and dismantle my peer-to-peer
network, does anyone know if I will continue to have this problem with a
server? I can't afford the inconvenience of constantly shutting down and
restarting a server.  Anyone else with this problem? (Dov, Andi, C.
Scott Miller can you guys help me?)

B) Acrobat seems to dislike using the HP laserjet 6L printer when it
comes to printing PDF docs that have form fields. I constantly get the
message flickering that the computer is unable to find the 6L printer.
It briefly flashes this message for a few seconds, then prints. However
the printed result is poor. Information is completely omitted from the
printed document. It seems the only way I can print is using the PCL
printer driver. This is only a problem when I want to print a catalog
page, or a data sheet at 600 dpi. Other than that, I usually have the
printer set to print to the PCL printer for it usually prints faster
than the 6L printer. 

Anyone know why this is? Any suggestions here?

I have been a list subscriber for a while now. I know there are some
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some assistance, I would greatly appreciate it. 

Thank you.

Best regards,
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Adobe tech support has been totally useleess to me too... finding nothing
but what's already on its web site... they also passed me off to Asiasoft
(an Adobe reseller at www.asiasoft.com).

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I had a client who received some technical documentation created in the 
Japanese version of Acrobat 3.0. The problem stems from the fonts not being 
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Calls to Adobe tech support stated that the version is not covered under my 
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Anyone have any information on this version of Acrobat?

Thanks

Rob Robertson
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Rebecca,

We are a service bureau and have been scanning and OCRing engineering
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> Hi Folks -
>
> We have a potential project on-site that might involve the CAPTURE-ing
> of thousands of pages of engineering data that is now hardcopy only.
> I'm having a problem with the engineers defining their goals for this
> data, but pretty much am sure they would like OCR but without alteration
> of the page image.  Thus, CAPTURE!!  We have a Doc Management system
> that could handle the management and display of the PDF files as part of
> a document vault.  My concern is the actual scanning to PDF.  How does
> one go about finding a good service bureau that could handle this?  As I
> said, it's thousands of pages of not very good (light) printout, and
> much of it is not oriented in portrait layout.
>
> We are in Southern California  (Torrance).
>
> rebecca
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Carlos González wrote:
>> Hello :
> 
> We are trying to do a comercial catalog in PDF, and distributed in CD ROM. (Similar (not equal)  to those "shoping carts" in web pages)

> Does anybody know how to do this? Is it posible? (I hope the explanation is enough)
> 
> Where should we start by?...
I wish I could help you Carlos, but I can't. However, I am curious about
how to do this as well. If you find out any useful information, please
send it my way. I would greatly appreciate it.

Thanks in advance,
Lawrence Spear

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Rebecca:

I'm sure you've been bombed with mail by now.... Here are some of Duff's
Tips for how to approach and what to look for in a service bureau.

How to approach a Service Bureau...
-----------------------------------

*	Define your project IN WRITING as precisely as possible

*	Be sure to include a representative sample document with your
submission

*	If they have a quote request form, USE IT.  Bureaux qualify their
prospective clients too, you know!  They'll take you more seriously if you
took the time to complete their form.

*	State your goals and intentions for the "big picture" with this
project

*	Be open to suggestions the Bureau may have to improve on your idea
and save you money.  Remember, this is what they do (or, I should say, it's
what _we_ do) everyday.

How to evaluate a Service Bureau...
-----------------------------------

*	Ensure you have "apples to apples" in your quotes, If not, why not?
Ensure that each Bureau understands your requirements in detail before
accepting their quote!

*	Ask the Bureau if they've done identical or similar work in the past
- and get an example.  Avoid the Bureaux who give the impression that
they'll use your job for "educational" purposes.

*	Ask the Bureau for suggestions to improve your product and make it
work better in your application.  If you get "huh?" when asking this
question, then you are dealing with a glorified scanner operator.
Sometimes, (not often) this is the right course.

*	Will the bureau provide references, and what do the references say?
Will they offer you more references on request?

*	Examine the Bureau's response to your RFP.  If they present an
intelligible, high quality document in response (and/or in contrast!) to
your own RFP, then their end product MIGHT look similar.

*	Last (but not least!), can the Bureau provide a packaged solution?

Hope this helps.

Duff Johnson
Document Solutions, Inc.
1611 Telegraph Avenue, Suite 1010
Oakland, CA 94612
PH:  510-986-0250  FAX:  510-986-0636
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> We have a potential project on-site that might involve the CAPTURE-ing
> of thousands of pages of engineering data that is now hardcopy only.
> I'm having a problem with the engineers defining their goals for this
> data, but pretty much am sure they would like OCR but without 
> alteration
> of the page image.  Thus, CAPTURE!!  We have a Doc Management system
> that could handle the management and display of the PDF files 
> as part of
> a document vault.  My concern is the actual scanning to PDF.  How does
> one go about finding a good service bureau that could handle 
> this?  As I
> said, it's thousands of pages of not very good (light) printout, and
> much of it is not oriented in portrait layout.

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it sounds like a network stability problem; termination or packet switching
or... could cuase lack of speed, dropout, loss of nodes etc. That would
explain all the problems you mention.

Hubs are, what, $50 now?

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Greetings all.

I am having trouble with Acrobat ver 3.01 on my peer-to-peer network. I
have 5 PC's running Windows 95, ver. 4.00.950B. All my computers are
Pentium II, with at least 32 MB of ram with at least a 6 Gig HD's. In
addition the programs that I have loaded are MS OFFICE 97 (not complete,
just Word & Excel.), Acrobat Exchange, James RIver Groups's Dejawin
(Unix emulation software), Cheyenne's Bitware (fax software), Act! 3.0,
and HP 6L, and HP 6L PCL printing software/ drivers. 

I have 2 reoccurring problems that I could use assistance with. 

A) It seems that Acrobat does not like my systems for rather frequently
I find all, or most of my computers have disappeared from my Network
Neighborhood. This happens for no reason that I can tell. I thought it
might be due to fluctuations in the electrical current due to the wiring
of my building, but I really have no idea. When I try and restart my
computers, it doesn't work. I have to manually hit the power down / or
restart button (it freezes when trying to shutdown or restart on it's
own). 

I am going to install a server soon and dismantle my peer-to-peer
network, does anyone know if I will continue to have this problem with a
server? I can't afford the inconvenience of constantly shutting down and
restarting a server.  Anyone else with this problem? (Dov, Andi, C.
Scott Miller can you guys help me?)

B) Acrobat seems to dislike using the HP laserjet 6L printer when it
comes to printing PDF docs that have form fields. I constantly get the
message flickering that the computer is unable to find the 6L printer.
It briefly flashes this message for a few seconds, then prints. However
the printed result is poor. Information is completely omitted from the
printed document. It seems the only way I can print is using the PCL
printer driver. This is only a problem when I want to print a catalog
page, or a data sheet at 600 dpi. Other than that, I usually have the
printer set to print to the PCL printer for it usually prints faster
than the 6L printer. 

Anyone know why this is? Any suggestions here?

I have been a list subscriber for a while now. I know there are some
very knowledgable folks out there. If any of you guy or gals can lend me
some assistance, I would greatly appreciate it. 

Thank you.

Best regards,
Lawrence Spear

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I am trying to post a newsletter crated on Pagemaker 6.5 on a web page
using Adobe Acrobat 3.02. Problem is that the newsletter was created for
11X17 printing, so that's the size of the .pdf document. How do I fix
this so that people can read and print regular page size versions?

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On 18 May 99, at 12:12, Hamm, John wrote about "[PDF] Converting 11X17 Pagemaker to":

> I am trying to post a newsletter crated on Pagemaker 6.5 on a web page
> using Adobe Acrobat 3.02. Problem is that the newsletter was created for
> 11X17 printing, so that's the size of the .pdf document. How do I fix this
> so that people can read and print regular page size versions?

Well, the first question becomes, "Why did you create it on 11X17 
pages?" PageMaker has the ability to create spreads from 8.5X11 pages, 
which would have accomplished your purpose in a much more logical 
fashion, unless your publication actually uses 11X17 pages.

You'll probably have to create a new PageMaker document, using 
8.5X11 pages, and either copy and paste, or drag and drop the content 
from your original pub over to it, then generate the PDF from that 
document.


******Michael P. Thompson******
****Director of Communications***
***thompson@resourcenter.com***

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> On 18 May 99, at 12:12, Hamm, John wrote about "[PDF] Converting 11X17 
> Pagemaker to":
>
>> I am trying to post a newsletter crated on Pagemaker 6.5 on a web page
>> using Adobe Acrobat 3.02. Problem is that the newsletter was created for
>> 11X17 printing, so that's the size of the .pdf document. How do I fix this
>> so that people can read and print regular page size versions?
>
> Well, the first question becomes, "Why did you create it on 11X17
> pages?" PageMaker has the ability to create spreads from 8.5X11 pages,
> which would have accomplished your purpose in a much more logical
> fashion, unless your publication actually uses 11X17 pages.
>
> You'll probably have to create a new PageMaker document, using
> 8.5X11 pages, and either copy and paste, or drag and drop the content
> from your original pub over to it, then generate the PDF from that
> document.
>
>
> ******Michael P. Thompson******
> ****Director of Communications***
> ***thompson@resourcenter.com***

He may not have created the original document, and may just have a PDF file.

One could open the PDF in either Illustrator or Photoshop, resize it, and
resave it as a PDF file. This may take some fooling around to get it the way
you want it, but these two programs will open PDF files.

Rich

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I think you could only do this by linking to an online shopping cart.
Otherwise how would you maintain state and transfer variables between pages,
and how would the information get back to you?


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Carlos González wrote:
>> Hello :
>
> We are trying to do a comercial catalog in PDF, and distributed in CD ROM.
(Similar (not equal)  to those "shoping carts" in web pages)

> Does anybody know how to do this? Is it posible? (I hope the explanation
is enough)
>
> Where should we start by?...
I wish I could help you Carlos, but I can't. However, I am curious about
how to do this as well. If you find out any useful information, please
send it my way. I would greatly appreciate it.

Thanks in advance,
Lawrence Spear

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If your goal is to keep the format the same and just reduce the size of the
image you would do just as well to set the open options to 'Fit to Width' so
it will display on the screen properly and have the users use the 'Fit to
Page' option when printing the document.

Paul Redden

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>I am trying to post a newsletter crated on Pagemaker 6.5 on a web page
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>this so that people can read and print regular page size versions?
>
>John Hamm
>DCFS Office of Communications
>217-785-1700
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Chris (and Lawrence),

it can be done in JavaScript, without any need of on-line connections. The
one I have done works from a CD, as well as under Reader.

Hope, this can help.

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>I think you could only do this by linking to an online shopping cart.
>Otherwise how would you maintain state and transfer variables between pages,
>and how would the information get back to you?
>
>
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>>> I am trying to post a newsletter crated on Pagemaker 6.5 on a web page
>>> using Adobe Acrobat 3.02. Problem is that the newsletter was created for
>>> 11X17 printing, so that's the size of the .pdf document. How do I fix this
>>> so that people can read and print regular page size versions?
<snip>
>He may not have created the original document, and may just have a PDF file.
>
>One could open the PDF in either Illustrator or Photoshop, resize it, and
>resave it as a PDF file. This may take some fooling around to get it the way
>you want it, but these two programs will open PDF files.
>
>Rich

Rich - While this could work, you run the risk of fonts showing incorrectly, especially if he did not create/have access to the original file (which I am assuming is the case
because the best way IS to reformat it in Pagemaker as an 8.5 x 11 document.)

My suggestion would be (not having access to the native file) is to export each spread in Acrobat as an eps with a preview, and import it into a page layout program,
(Quark/Pagemaker)  in a 8.5x11 layout and hide/put off to the  pasteboard the
other half that isn't to be viewed, and create a PDF from there.

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First I would like to thank everyone that has been responding.  I can't
believe the number and speed of the responses.  I am going to check out the
printshopmail.
I have another question along this same line.  I have gotten a couple of
books and started to play around with PostScript, i.e. print text and
graphics.  I am trying to write a custom mail merge program for our company.
There are a number of reasons for doing this.  I think it can be done this
way:
1.	Scan through a postscript file for the showpage command.
2.	Insert code to save the stack.  This is where I need help.
3.	Insert my own PostScript code for text and graphics.
4.	Insert code to restore the stack from step 2.
I am then going to take the resulting file either print, send to fax, or
convert to PDF with security options.

Does this make sense?

Is there some place where I might find the code for step 2 & 4 or will I
have to have this custom written?

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You are doing it the hard way. You can buy software that will accomplish
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www.printshopmail.com <http://www.printshopmail.com> .

- Cynthia Leslie

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>2.     I am also interested to know if there is a way to merge one
postscript
>file on top of another one.  My idea is this.  I want to create postscript
>files with Word, Excel, etc...  I am then going to write a program to
create a
>postscript file that would be like an 'address label', from data in a
>database.  I would want the address label postscript file to print on top
of
>the original postscript file.  I am creating a custom mail merge program.
>
>ROB,



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>>>> I am trying to post a newsletter crated on Pagemaker 6.5 on a web page
>>>> using Adobe Acrobat 3.02. Problem is that the newsletter was created for
>>>> 11X17 printing, so that's the size of the .pdf document. How do I fix this
>>>> so that people can read and print regular page size versions?
> <snip>
>>He may not have created the original document, and may just have a PDF file.
>>
>>One could open the PDF in either Illustrator or Photoshop, resize it, and
>>resave it as a PDF file. This may take some fooling around to get it the way
>>you want it, but these two programs will open PDF files.
>>
>>Rich
>
> Rich - While this could work, you run the risk of fonts showing
> incorrectly, especially if he did not create/have access to the original
> file (which I am assuming is the case
> because the best way IS to reformat it in Pagemaker as an 8.5 x 11 document.)
>
> My suggestion would be (not having access to the native file) is to export
> each spread in Acrobat as an eps with a preview, and import it into a page
> layout program,
> (Quark/Pagemaker)  in a 8.5x11 layout and hide/put off to the  pasteboard the
> other half that isn't to be viewed, and create a PDF from there.
>
> Justin Blocksom
> Digital Production Group
> Printing & Publications Corp.
> jblocksom@printandpub.com

If the fonts are embedded and subset, it should work. I've done many ads
this way.

Your suggestion is a good one, too. He could make a one-page doc by reducing
the eps into a container, or create a 2-page doc as well. It sounds,
however, if he wants the 11 x 17 to fit on an 8 1/2 x 11 (reduction).

One neat thing about this business is there are many solutions to the same
problem. Whatever works is the right answer.

Rich

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a postscript based mail merge program... that is like using a varnished
dowel as an ice cream stick... an EPS file is far more complicated and
polished an end product than you want or need to do this...

Me, I just use a FileMaker database and letter/faxcover templates, much
simpler thaan mailmerge...

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Aandi Inston has answered Question #1.

Re. Question #2: I think you're doing it the hard way because -

  First: There are lots of off-the-shelf software solutions that will
probably do what you want. Second: If for some reason you really want or
need to do custom programming, there's a better way to go about it. If you
want to know more, send me an off-list e-mail.

- Cynthia Leslie

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I have two questions.
1.	I am looking for a command line utility / program that will convert
a
postscript file to PDF and set the security options as well.
2.	I am also interested to know if there is a way to merge one
postscript
file on top of another one.  My idea is this.  I want to create postscript
files with Word, Excel, etc...  I am then going to write a program to create
a
postscript file that would be like an 'address label', from data in a
database.  I would want the address label postscript file to print on top of
the original postscript file.  I am creating a custom mail merge program.

Thank for any help,
Rob Benjamin
Smith-Emery Co.


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"Michel Laurin" <mlaurin@a2i.ca> wrote:

>Would anybody be aware of a utility that could merge single page
>PDF image (that originated from a conversion (through ARTS IMPORT)
>TIF (single page) to PDF Image conversion based on a file name
>convention that would recognize a page numbering scheme prior to
>the DOT???
>
>PS don't mention the use of multiimage tif files, remember the
>limitation of the IMPORT plug-in of 100 pages...

If you don't mind going back to the original single page TIFF files,
instead of converted single page PDFs, you can combine, e.g.,

a00001.tif
a00002.tif
a00003.tif
...
a00123.tif

into a 123-page PDF file in that order using our tool.

Our TIFF2PDF command line program can merge single or multi-page
TIFF files in a directory into a (multi-page) PDF, with
the page order determined by the alphabetical sort order of
TIFF filenames.  It is currently available for Win32, Linux,
FreeBSD, and Mac OS X Server.

It's downloadable from:

  http://www.fastio.com/tiff2pdf.html

The demo version is limited to 150 pages, but I can create
a cumstom version with the limit increased to several K if there is
a demand.  We also license the source code.

Sam Ohzawa
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1. Acrobat cannot (legally) embed any Japanese font without the
concurrence of the font vendor.
2. So Acrobat 3.0 can NOT go across "international" language boundaries.

3. Acrobat 4.0 now allow users to embed (substitute if have to) Adobe's
own licensed Japanese font.
4. Looks like your Japan counter part has to re-PDF it in Acrobat 4.0
and you (any reader) need to install Acrobat 4.0 with Japanese font pack
(free from Adobe).

While I am promoting Acrobat 4.0 sales, hope to see reciprocal from
Adobe folks....:-)
(We do wonderful Japanese PDF Capture -and English--, while Adobe is
still scratching their head...!)

Vincent Huang
PageGenie: The easiest way to bring printed pages to web document: HTML,
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If you really want to write a custom program which will insert your own
PostScript code for
text and graphics, the way you described isn't the right way to do it. What
you
should be doing is importing an Encapsulated PostScript (EPS) file. This is
explained
in the _PostScript Language Reference Manual_, Appendix H, Section H.3.

However, as I said before, you are doing things the hard way. Why write the
software yourself when you can buy commercial software that will do this?

One more thing - this discussion probably isn't appropriate for this list.
I'm sure the
list manager is probably going to point this out soon!

If you'd like to continue this discussion, feel free to e-mail me privately.

- Cynthia Leslie

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First I would like to thank everyone that has been responding.  I can't
believe the number and speed of the responses.  I am going to check out the
printshopmail.
I have another question along this same line.  I have gotten a couple of
books and started to play around with PostScript, i.e. print text and
graphics.  I am trying to write a custom mail merge program for our company.
There are a number of reasons for doing this.  I think it can be done this
way:
1.	Scan through a postscript file for the showpage command.
2.	Insert code to save the stack.  This is where I need help.
3.	Insert my own PostScript code for text and graphics.
4.	Insert code to restore the stack from step 2.
I am then going to take the resulting file either print, send to fax, or
convert to PDF with security options.

Does this make sense?

Is there some place where I might find the code for step 2 & 4 or will I
have to have this custom written?

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You are doing it the hard way. You can buy software that will accomplish
what you describe below. Look at PrintShop Mail from Atlas Software:
www.printshopmail.com <http://www.printshopmail.com> .

- Cynthia Leslie

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>2.     I am also interested to know if there is a way to merge one
postscript
>file on top of another one.  My idea is this.  I want to create postscript
>files with Word, Excel, etc...  I am then going to write a program to
create a
>postscript file that would be like an 'address label', from data in a
>database.  I would want the address label postscript file to print on top
of
>the original postscript file.  I am creating a custom mail merge program.
>
>ROB,



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>I am trying to post a newsletter crated on Pagemaker 6.5 on a web page
>using Adobe Acrobat 3.02. Problem is that the newsletter was created for
>11X17 printing, so that's the size of the .pdf document. How do I fix
>this so that people can read and print regular page size versions?
>

Off top of head:

Print to PS from Pagemaker after having set the PS driver up to shrink to
some appropriate percentage that gets you into letter-size territory.
Might even be able to get PM to do the shrinkage itself, not sure.

Or tell PM to print to a letter size page rather than tabloid and have it
shrink to fit.  Pretty sure it'll do that.

Or let the PDFs be tabloid size but instruct the recipients to choose the
shrink to fit option in Reader/Exchange's print dialog.

Or Aandi Inston might have something in his box of tricks (www.quite.com)
that'll do this in a more direct fashion working with just the PDF.  Hmmm.
Aandi, I forget, does Quite Imposing do this?


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>1.	Scan through a postscript file for the showpage command.
>2.	Insert code to save the stack.  This is where I need help.
>3.	Insert my own PostScript code for text and graphics.
>4.	Insert code to restore the stack from step 2.


Instead, why not try something like this:

Do a single merge print document and print to PS.  Instead of "live" names,
fill the merge field with something unique and obvious.  XXXCompanyNameXXX,
XXXAddress1XXX and so forth would do the trick.

Write a program that would read e.g. CSV "live" merge data from a source
file, read the PS from the file above, and substitute live company data for
XXXCompanyNameXXX and so forth and write the resulting massaged PS out to a
new file, the printer, wherever.


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>
>Also - what is a "c.s.v. data file"?

Comma Separated Value, 

"Firstname","Lastname","Interests"
"Cynthia","Leslie","PDF"
"Steve","Rindsberg","PDF"

and anon


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Deyo, Steve wrote:
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> it sounds like a network stability problem; termination or packet switching
> or... could cuase lack of speed, dropout, loss of nodes etc. That would
> explain all the problems you mention.
> 
> Hubs are, what, $50 now?
> 
Steve,
Okay, perhaps my Hub that I am using stinks on ice. However how does
this explain the inability for each of my computers to randomly restart,
or shutdown properly?

Any idea?

Also what about my issues with the HP LJ6L printer drivers?

Thanks for taking a moment to lend me some assistance,
Lawrence Spear

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I had thought of that, and while it could solve my inserting of text, I
still need to insert graphics.  I have tried manually inserting code but it
looks like MS Word has changed the default scaling and origin.  I want to be
able to modify PostScript files created from different sources and handle
them generically.

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>1.	Scan through a postscript file for the showpage command.
>2.	Insert code to save the stack.  This is where I need help.
>3.	Insert my own PostScript code for text and graphics.
>4.	Insert code to restore the stack from step 2.


Instead, why not try something like this:

Do a single merge print document and print to PS.  Instead of "live" names,
fill the merge field with something unique and obvious.  XXXCompanyNameXXX,
XXXAddress1XXX and so forth would do the trick.

Write a program that would read e.g. CSV "live" merge data from a source
file, read the PS from the file above, and substitute live company data for
XXXCompanyNameXXX and so forth and write the resulting massaged PS out to a
new file, the printer, wherever.


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Will try and let you know beginnig of next week.

THANKS appreciated

Regards from Montréal
mlaurin@a2i.ca
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>"Michel Laurin" <mlaurin@a2i.ca> wrote:
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>>Would anybody be aware of a utility that could merge single page
>>PDF image (that originated from a conversion (through ARTS IMPORT)
>>TIF (single page) to PDF Image conversion based on a file name
>>convention that would recognize a page numbering scheme prior to
>>the DOT???
>>
>>PS don't mention the use of multiimage tif files, remember the
>>limitation of the IMPORT plug-in of 100 pages...
>
>If you don't mind going back to the original single page TIFF files,
>instead of converted single page PDFs, you can combine, e.g.,
>
>a00001.tif
>a00002.tif
>a00003.tif
>...
>a00123.tif
>
>into a 123-page PDF file in that order using our tool.
>
>Our TIFF2PDF command line program can merge single or multi-page
>TIFF files in a directory into a (multi-page) PDF, with
>the page order determined by the alphabetical sort order of
>TIFF filenames.  It is currently available for Win32, Linux,
>FreeBSD, and Mac OS X Server.
>
>It's downloadable from:
>
>  http://www.fastio.com/tiff2pdf.html
>
>The demo version is limited to 150 pages, but I can create
>a cumstom version with the limit increased to several K if there is
>a demand.  We also license the source code.
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Rob,

Hi from Tokyo.  I may not understand your situation fully, but you can
see Asian letters by using Reader 4.0 plus Asian Font Packs, I'm
really sure.  Both are free and able to download from www.adobe.com.

My environment is vanilla English.  :)  I mean it's driven by English
version Windows95 with no extra localizing software.  By the way, I've
installed one Japanese related software, Microsoft Japanese Font Pack
for IE5.  It's free as well.  I believe MS Japanese font pack does
nothing for Reader4.0 but it's just for info.

So you don't need to give a call to the company, I guess.  :)

                                                       -- TOMITA

   From: Cybergrphx@aol.com
   Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 11:07:26 EDT

   I had a client who received some technical documentation created in the 
   Japanese version of Acrobat 3.0. The problem stems from the fonts not being 
   embedded into the PDF rendering the file virtually useless on this end.

   Calls to Adobe tech support stated that the version is not covered under my 
   client's service contract.  I could not find anything on the Adobe web site 
   other than them passing off support to a company called "AsiaSoft."

   Anyone have any information on this version of Acrobat?

   Thanks

   Rob Robertson
   Cybergraphix, Inc.



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Folks,

I have been testing the output from Acrobat 4 Distiller (PDF Spec 1.3)
in Acrobat 3 (since our users still have Acrobat 3).  So far I have not
encountered any problems.

Has anyone else got specifics on this topic?  (I'm generating the PS
from Framemaker)

Cheers,

Dave .....

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Folks,

I have been testing the output from Acrobat 4 Distiller (PDF Spec 1.3)
in Acrobat 3 (since our users still have Acrobat 3).  So far I have not
encountered any problems.

Has anyone else got specifics on this topic?  (I'm generating the PS
from Framemaker)

Cheers,

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Hi,

No need to distill again with Acrobat4.0 at all.  It's enough if Japan
counter part has a package of Acrobat Exchange 3.0 Japanese version.

Actually Acrobat 4.0 Japanese version is not available yet.  Adobe
tells that the localized package is going to ship in the middle of
June.  But it doesn't matter for this question anyway.  :)

                                                      -- TOMITA

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   Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 12:39:54 -0700

   4. Looks like your Japan counter part has to re-PDF it in Acrobat 4.0
   and you (any reader) need to install Acrobat 4.0 with Japanese font pack
   (free from Adobe).


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Pagemaker questions

Does anyone know why the file crashes when I select Export PDF options.

Should links made in Pagemaker be retained in a PDF file.
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Ron Drinkwater wrote:

> Does anyone know why the file crashes when I select Export
> PDF options.
>
> Should links made in Pagemaker be retained in a PDF file.

Which version of PageMaker are you using? Platform? Have you got the latest
version of the plug-in?

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>> Does anyone know why the file crashes when I select Export
>> PDF options.
>>
>> Should links made in Pagemaker be retained in a PDF file.
>
>Which version of PageMaker are you using? Platform? Have you got the latest
>version of the plug-in?
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Ron Drinkwater wrote:

> Pagemaker 6.5
> What plugins should I have
>
There is an updated Export PDF plug-in on Adobe's web site and you should
probably have the PageMaker 6.5.2 updater installed as well (also available
on the web site).

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Multiple layers may be your problem. I know layers are a problem with
re-imposition and I think they are a problem with PDF Export.

If you have multiple layers, make a copy of your document then delete extra
layers. As you delete each layer, PageMaker asks you which layer you want to
move the objects to. That way you don't loose anything. Test the export when
you get the file down to one layer.

If this does solve your problem, scan the file carefully. Once the layers
are gone, objects may overlay incorrectly.

Let me know if this works. I suspect this was the problem when I couldn't
export a file about four months ago but never got around to testing it. I
just printed to PS and distilled (I didn't need the links). When I had
similar problems with re-imposing the same file into a booklet, I found a
note on the Adobe tech support site about removing excess layers.

Good Luck.

-----Original Message-----
Does anyone know why the file crashes when I select Export PDF options.
Should links made in Pagemaker be retained in a PDF file.


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> Folks,
> 
> I have been testing the output from Acrobat 4 Distiller (PDF Spec 1.3)
> in Acrobat 3 (since our users still have Acrobat 3).  So far I have not
> encountered any problems.
>
> Has anyone else got specifics on this topic?  (I'm generating the PS
> from Framemaker)
>
> Cheers,
>
> Dave .....

PDFs created in Acrobat 4 are backwards compatible. In other words, files
can be opened by someone who has any version of Acrobat 3 (Reader or
Exchange).

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Members of various Acrobat, FrameMaker,
& Computer-to-Plate Pressroom lists:

The English language version of the AdobePS 4.3 PostScript Driver
for Windows'9X is now available for download from Adobe Systems
at the following address:

  http://www.adobe.com/supportservice/custsupport/LIBRARY/5712.htm 

AdobePS 4.3 for other languages will be available from the Adobe
web site in the near future.

It is this version of the driver that fixes the infamous text layout
and dropped characters problems when printing to printers with PPDs
indicating a PostScript version less than 2015 with AdobePS 4.2.4
through 4.2.6. In other words, "hacked" PPD files should no longer 
be required (finally!). However you need not undo those PPD changes
for AdobePS 4.3 to work correctly.

In conjunction with use of Acrobat 4.0, this driver version also finally
fully fixes the problem of Acrobat text searchability when text is
formatted using TrueType (Type 42) fonts.

AdobePS 4.3 provides full support for Windows 98 -- including Windows 98
Image Color Management 2.0, full sRGB color support with Office97, and 
conversion of sRGB input profiles into CRDs (Color Rendering Dictionaries)
for Windows 98. It allows users to override application settings for 
Image Color Management processing; provides a new, easy-to-use, 
InstallShield-based installer; provides support for printing the Euro 
character currency symbol for printers that support it; and supports 
remote printing to WebReady printers connected to the internet. Finally,
AdobePS 4.3 provides easy access to Adobe's Web site via Adobe Online.

=========================================================================
     Some very critical issues that you all should be aware of BEFORE
     attempting to installing this driver:
=========================================================================

(1) To simply upgrade your existing AdobePS 4.1.x or 4.2.x drivers, run
the installation program and select the "upgrade driver only" option.
You should delete any previous AdobePS 4.x setup programs (and shortcuts)
thereto from your system.

(2) Contrary to any readme files, the installer only allows one printer to
be setup at a time. Rerun the installer as many times as necessary to add
additional printer/driver instances.

(3) When simply updating the driver from AdobePS 4.1.x or 4.2.x, be sure to
examine all your standard printer settings and record them for later use.
The AdobePS 4.3 upgrade process resets many of the device settings to "default"
values that are very likely NOT what you want and/or need. For example, 
information about available memory, optional trays, duplexors, etc. may all
get reset to default values. Image color management may be enabled although
you don't necessarily want it on. The advanced PostScript options for data
transmission may be reset to ASCII with CTRL-D instead of TBCP or pure binary.
That is why it is so important that you manually record all these settings
BEFORE you do the upgrade and reset those values after the upgrade. Failure
to reset the values could cause total job failure, print job performance
degradation, and/or unexpected colors (or lack thereof) in output.

(4) The number of copies to be printed has been removed as a global property
of a particular printer/driver instance. Most applications allow you to set
this value, though, for the current job, via their print menu.

(5) The ability to set particular image screening frequencies and angles
has been totally removed from the printer properties. This functionality
was removed for a number of reasons including the fact that a large number
of PostScript printers ignore these settings and substitute their own
screening algorithms and that for critical applications that generate their
own PostScript (PageMaker, Quark XPress, Illustrator, Photoshop, Freehand,
CorelDraw, etc.), these settings were totally ignored. Depending upon the 
target printer, screen settings in EPS files generated by Photoshop, 
Illustrator, Freehand, CorelDraw, Acrobat, etc. may be honored but that is
not and hasn't been a function of the driver. 

(6) When setting up an HP LaserJet 8500 with this driver, the available
memory setting will indicate an error when you set it to high values, but
it will "take" anyway.

As with previous versions of AdobePS, the license for this driver, to which
your acceptance is required during the installation process for each
printer instance, limits its to use with printers with Adobe PostScript 
software (i.e., no clones) or with Adobe application programs with which
it is explicitly bundled (i.e., AdobePS 4.3.x will be explicitly required by
and will be bundled with InDesign 1.0 for Windows'98).

=========================================================================
     Some personal notes:
=========================================================================

I have been personally running with this driver now for approximately
eight weeks under a wide variety of conditions including both GDI apps
(such as Microsoft Office and FrameMaker) as well as applications that
generate their own PostScript (per list above) as well as with both 
Type 1 and TrueType fonts from a wide range of sources (and in multiple
languages). My target printers have been a wide range of devices with
Adobe PostScript Level 2 and Adobe PostScript 3. It appears to be at
least as stable as any previous AdobePS 4.x version and has significant
pluses as indicated above. I most strongly recommend it if you are
running any version of AdobePS 4.2.x. But please, take heed of point (3)
above.

No flames, please! I am just a messenger here!

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2 questions:

1) where can I find the specifications for Acrobat v1.3 with PDF/X?

2) does anyone know where I can find information on printing spot (recipie or 
Pantone) colors from Acrobat 3 vs Acrobat 4 PDF files? Having trouble getting 
the colors to print as spots w/ my Harlequin RIP.

thanks!!

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Dear Vinod:

There's a company in Queens, NY, called C-Vision or something like that
which has a remarkable TIFF compression tool.  Stephen Lief of
Information Technologies, Inc., is a Cvision business partner and can
direct you further:  

-sheila

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> Hi,
> Forgive me for posting a  odd request, but I believe someone out there
> will
> be in a position to help me out. I have a workflow where good no of
> tiff
> files are being transmitted over a dedicated link from one location to
> another. The tiff file are CCITT group 4 compressed but still they are
> using up the entire bandwidth of the link. Any tool/technique  to
> reduce
> the size of File. The tiff files cintains text as well as graphics
> and
> both are required for processing.
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
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>I had thought of that, and while it could solve my inserting of text, I
>still need to insert graphics.  I have tried manually inserting code but it
>looks like MS Word has changed the default scaling and origin.  I want to be
>able to modify PostScript files created from different sources and handle
>them generically.
>

Given predictable PS code, you might be able to do a similar kind of S&R,
locating a dummy EPS graphic and replacing it with a live one, but doing
the same job on just any PS might turn into a real nightmare.  Um.
Backspace.  Delete "might".  Insert "will". <g>

Consider just the matter of locating text in the PS.  It might appear as:

x y moveto (TEXT) show

or as 

x y moveto (T) show x1 y1 moveto (E) show 

and so on.  And even that's a rather simplified example of what's more
likely to happen in a world where more and more apps generate their own PS,
so you're not likely to see "show" except in the preamble where it's
included in a definition of some other "function".


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>Should links made in Pagemaker be retained in a PDF file.

What sort of links do you mean?  How were they created?  You can certainly
define links in PM that are retained in the PDF;  of course you have to
specify that that happen in the Export PDF options.

There's a bug in PM that can cause it to generate blank bookmark links from
TOC.  Nobody seems to know what causes it, and there isn't really a
solution for it other than manually fixing it.  The bookmark links are
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At 10:22 19/05/99 EDT, Franzine@aol.com wrote:
>1) where can I find the specifications for Acrobat v1.3 with PDF/X?

The PDF 1.3 spec is available on http://www.adobe.com

The PDF/X-1 draft standard is available on http://www.npes.org (see the
standards workroom).

>2) does anyone know where I can find information on printing spot (recipie
or 
>Pantone) colors from Acrobat 3 vs Acrobat 4 PDF files? Having trouble
getting 
>the colors to print as spots w/ my Harlequin RIP.

This should work fine with PDF 1.2 (Acrobat 3) files, as long as the spot
colours end up in the PDF. Remember that some applications are not very
good at encoding spot colours in composite colour PostScript, so you won't
always end up with spots in the PDF file, even if you do the right things
with the prolog and epilog files.



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> 2 questions:
> 
> 1) where can I find the specifications for Acrobat v1.3 with PDF/X?
>
> 2) does anyone know where I can find information on printing spot (recipie or
> Pantone) colors from Acrobat 3 vs Acrobat 4 PDF files? Having trouble getting
> the colors to print as spots w/ my Harlequin RIP.
>
> thanks!!

Number 2.

You're going to need a plug-in to separate the files, unless it's built in
to your rip.

Check out:

Crackerjack -- www.lantanarips.com

Output Pro -- www.callas.de

Rich

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Yo PDF Gurus...

According to a thread on Graphics-L (see below)  Adobe wants their
customers to ignore multimedia functions/features of Acrobat.  This seems
odd since the current Adobe Classroom In a Book training devotes a lot of
attention to Acrobat's multimedia functions and PDFZone has recently posted
user tips on such advanced interactivity
<http://pdfzone.com/resources/tips/tip0037.html>

Do you suppose Adobe will back-off from Acrobat multimedia
functionality/features in the future in support of other applications they
want to sell?
==========================================================================
Here's the thread as it appeared on Graphics-L...

Here's a really neat thing that I've just discovered that I'm so excited
about that I wanted to share immediately!!!! <v.vbg>

As most of you are probably aware, betas of Quicktime 4 are available from
Apple's site. And one of its many new features is the ability to put a
Flash .swf file into a Quicktime wrapper. Indeed, the original .swf file
retains all its interactivity and its tiny file size, but masquerades as a
Quicktime .mov file.

What I've just found out is that you can place these Flash/Quicktime files
into Acrobat .pdf files (in my case version 3, so presumably 4 as well).
And they just work! Interactivity and all! Which seems to have transformed
Acrobat's potential for screen based documentation (identity manuals, and
the like) at a single stroke. [This assumes one is using a Macintosh.
Whether it works on a peecee remains to be seen...]

I wonder if anyone at Adobe has figured this out yet?

-J

I attended a short seminar with a woman presenter who showed Acrobat doing
just these things. It was really so cool and easy to use.

She touted the program as a "multimedia tool" and used Adobe's Photoshop
tutorial itself as an example; tearing it apart (they never locked it on the
CD so you can really see how it works!) She made her own "movie" in about 35
minutes of class using various pieces of files she'd already created and
placing them into Acrobat. (It kind of reminded me of a jazzed up Hypercard
that has one file read and combine and corrdinate a bunch of others).

It was really cool I agree.

An interesting aside you will like is: when she gave the class she mentioned
Adobe's policy and why this "feature" is not real well known. They told her
it is not the market focus they want for the product. So much so, that when
she called them mumerous times to get to a person to help her with some
information about the product (and legal permission to do what she is
doing!), she instead got a reply from some honcho that told her to stop her
class immediately. That her focus is NOT what
Adobe wants their product to be known for. The focus is for prepress type
processes not artists and creatives!

I was glad she ignored them!

-s

I used to think that designers were crypto-fascists, but now I think we're
mild in comparison to the Silicon Valley marketing Gestapo (this following
hard on the heals of the 3Com fiasco). Fancy someone from Adobe having the
audacity to tell her what she should be doing with their product! [Will
this be the next imposition in our software licences - 'I undertake only to
use the software in accordance with its 'market focus' (but I jest - I
hope...)]

If Adobe had any real insight into the 'creative user' who is supposed to
be their customer, they would realize that we have an almost wilful
insistence on finding uses for things that were never envisaged, and
pushing products to their limits in order to find our what they can do.
Rather than being sniffy about this, they ought to a) recognize it and b)
celebrate it. Such an attitude might substantially benefit their business.

-J

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pdf@lists.pdfzone.com writes:
>Folks,
>
>I have been testing the output from Acrobat 4 Distiller (PDF Spec 1.3)
>in Acrobat 3 (since our users still have Acrobat 3).  So far I have not
>encountered any problems.
>
>Has anyone else got specifics on this topic?  (I'm generating the PS
>from Framemaker)
>
>Cheers,
>
>Dave .....

I ran into a problem with Macintosh TrueType fonts (don't know about
Windows). Acrobat 4 uses a new method of encoding Mac TrueType fonts which
Acrobat 3 Reader/Exchange don't understand. Even when I saved with Acrobat
3 compatibility, when I embedded and subsetted Mac TrueType fonts, they
caused problems in Acrobat 3. The only solution was to use Distiller 3.
Other than that, no problems.

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On 18 May 99, at 11:48, Rich Sprague wrote about "Re: [PDF] Converting 11X17 Pagemake":

> Your suggestion is a good one, too. He could make a one-page doc by
> reducing the eps into a container, or create a 2-page doc as well. It
> sounds, however, if he wants the 11 x 17 to fit on an 8 1/2 x 11
> (reduction).

There does seem to be an unanswered question here. I assumed he had 
a PageMaker document, laid out as two 8.5X11 pages on an 11X17 
spread. If it's actually an 11X17 page, then it's pretty simple to reduce 
it, in either PageMaker or Acrobat, by printing to file, specifying letter 
size paper, and selecting Reduce to Fit. Then reDistill the result.

If it's two 8.5X11 inch pages on an 11X17 spread, and he doesn't have 
access to the original PageMaker file, then one of the other solutions 
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On 19 May 99, at 10:24, Ron Drinkwater wrote about "[PDF] Adobe pagemaker questions":

> Does anyone know why the file crashes when I select Export PDF options.
 
Many good suggestions have been made. One more would be to look 
at how much RAM you have in your computer. I've noticed that 
clicking on that button initiates a rather intensive process than can take 
a bit. If you're short on RAM, your computer may not be able to 
handle the load. PageMaker (on the PC at least) seems not to handle 
low RAM situations very well, and doesn't tell you what the problem 
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My large corporation has SAP but uses Documentum as a backend for document
repository. However out of the box even Documentum wasnt enough so we
developed our own system (based on Documentum and Oracle with a Visual C++
front end) which has launched and has 850 users so far.

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Multiple layers may be your problem. I know layers are a problem with
re-imposition and I think they are a problem with PDF Export.

If you have multiple layers, make a copy of your document then delete extra
layers. As you delete each layer, PageMaker asks you which layer you want to
move the objects to. That way you don't loose anything. Test the export when
you get the file down to one layer.

If this does solve your problem, scan the file carefully. Once the layers
are gone, objects may overlay incorrectly.

Let me know if this works. I suspect this was the problem when I couldn't
export a file about four months ago but never got around to testing it. I
just printed to PS and distilled (I didn't need the links). When I had
similar problems with re-imposing the same file into a booklet, I found a
note on the Adobe tech support site about removing excess layers.

Good Luck.

-----Original Message-----
Does anyone know why the file crashes when I select Export PDF options.
Should links made in Pagemaker be retained in a PDF file.


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Thanks for the help. This is a Pagemaker document  created is a 20 pp.
magazine put together on a 11x17 format to fit the size needed by the
printer. The person who made it left the agency about a month ago, and
this is all I have to work with, and I'm unfamiliar with Pagemaker. 

If the pages are reduced to 8.5x11 format, would we be looking at
something that users would need to print in landscape mode? Thanks.

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On 18 May 99, at 11:48, Rich Sprague wrote about "Re: [PDF] Converting
11X17 Pagemake":

> Your suggestion is a good one, too. He could make a one-page doc by
> reducing the eps into a container, or create a 2-page doc as well. It
> sounds, however, if he wants the 11 x 17 to fit on an 8 1/2 x 11
> (reduction).

There does seem to be an unanswered question here. I assumed he had 
a PageMaker document, laid out as two 8.5X11 pages on an 11X17 
spread. If it's actually an 11X17 page, then it's pretty simple to
reduce 
it, in either PageMaker or Acrobat, by printing to file, specifying
letter 
size paper, and selecting Reduce to Fit. Then reDistill the result.

If it's two 8.5X11 inch pages on an 11X17 spread, and he doesn't have 
access to the original PageMaker file, then one of the other solutions 
proposed should work.

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<html><div>Hmm I just downloaded this file and it wont work (Could be cuz im
runnin it on a PC)!&nbsp; First It cant find the mov file then when I
manually locate the file it tells me that the file is not a movie
file.</div>
<br>
<div>when I try to open the mov in QT4&nbsp; I get the following error
messages:</div>
<br>
<div>1.&nbsp;&nbsp; Somehting about my G: drive not being ready.. I don't
even have a G drive</div>
<div>2.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; The movie file &quot;G3 Power\Desktop
folder\interactive.swf&quot; cannot be found.&nbsp; without this file,
the movie cannot play properly</div>
<br>
<div>Has anyone else tried it on a PC?</div>
<br>
<div>Both the pdf and mov files are in the same dir and I am running this
under win NT 4/sp5</div>
<br>
<br>
<div>&gt;</div>
<div>&gt;According to a thread on Graphics-L (see below)&nbsp; Adobe
wants their</div>
<div>&gt;customers to ignore multimedia functions/features of
Acrobat.&nbsp; This seems</div>
<div>&gt;odd since the current Adobe Classroom In a Book training devotes
a lot of</div>
<div>&gt;attention to Acrobat's multimedia functions and PDFZone has
recently posted</div>
<div>&gt;user tips on such advanced interactivity</div>
<div>&gt;&lt;<a href="http://pdfzone.com/resources/tips/tip0037.html" EUDORA=AUTOURL>http://pdfzone.com/resources/tips/tip0037.html</a>&gt;</div>
<div>&gt;</div>
<div>&gt;Do you suppose Adobe will back-off from Acrobat
multimedia</div>
<div>&gt;functionality/features in the future in support of other
applications they</div>
&gt;want to sell?
<BR>

Kevin Chu, EIT, ACE<br>
<br>
Digitizing and Multimedia Engineer<br>
<br>
CASTI Digitizing and Multimedia Inc. <br>
10566 - 114 Street, Edmonton, Alberta T5H 3J7 Canada <br>
Web site:
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Can anyone tell me how to fix the problem shown at the end of this e-mail?

I'm Win 95, P133 w/64 MB RAM. I print from FrameMaker 5.5.6 through the Acrobat
Distiller 3.0 printer (using the AdobePS4.3 driver) to a Distiller 3.02 Watched
Folder. Distiller is set up as suggested by Adobe document 319033
(Recommendations for High End Settings in Acrobat Distiller 3.02). This
FrameMaker file is 28 pages in length -- it has nine PDFs linked in as graphics,
and lots of formulas. The PS file is 34,681 KB in size.

Thanks!

Richard Inch
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Leybold Inficon
East Syracuse, NY 13057-9714

PROBLEM LOG FILE:

(Loaded separation procset from prologue.ps)
(Loaded separation procset from prologue.ps)
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Hi all,

I have a question concerning bookmarks:
I have a few hundreds PDF files, each file
has a one (same) bookmark. I would like delete this
bookmark because we will use PDF for different
uses.
Is it possible to delete bookmark from all PDF
files in a batch mode or some other suggestion...?
I have Compose program-very nice for the creation
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> Thanks for the help. This is a Pagemaker document  created is a 20 pp.
> magazine put together on a 11x17 format to fit the size needed by the
> printer. The person who made it left the agency about a month ago, and
> this is all I have to work with, and I'm unfamiliar with Pagemaker.
>
> If the pages are reduced to 8.5x11 format, would we be looking at
> something that users would need to print in landscape mode? Thanks.

> From: Michael Thompson [mailto:thompson@resourcenter.com]

If you set your reduction size to 65%, then the new, reduced version will
view in portrait mode.

Rich

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OK, it's time I asked the question.

I am Distilling a Word 97 document (3 pages, little graphics, B/W, few =
TrueType fonts) with Acrobat and Distiller 4.  I am using the default =
Distiller settings for PrintOptimized save 1 exception, I am choosing to =
embed all fonts and DESELECTING the "subset below 100%" option.  I save =
this setting saved as PrintOptimized[1].  The object is to embed all the =
fonts in the document (since there are so few of them it shouldn't =
affect the file size very much) and I want to have the ability to edit =
text even on such a limited basis when I receive the files on other =
machines that do not have these fonts (namely Amphion and Agatha for =
this test).

When I create the PDF using PDFMaker in Word97, I make sure to set it to =
use the PrintOptimized[1] setting and I turn off all the heading export =
and output features.  All I want is a simple PDF file that allows the =
editing of text and printing.  Sounds very simple, right?  Well, when I =
receive and view the file on the other system that does not include the =
fonts mentioned, I can see the document info for fonts and everything is =
still an embedded SUBSET.  Once I try to edit fonts is where the problem =
crops up... any font that I do have is editable because what appears to =
happen is Acrobat recognizes I have the font and anything I type uses my =
system fonts to match the surrounding embedded subset font.  Make any =
sense yet?  Yet when I try to edit the other TT fonts that were embedded =
subsets I get the error that I "Cannot edit text in this font."  The =
fonts look great on screen and I'm sure they will print well (haven't =
tried that yet), but I am confused as to why they are not being embedded =
fully.  Do I need to specify ALL my fonts in the "Always Embed" list in =
Distiller's Job Options?  Am I going to have to edit the font table for =
Distiller's print driver as I have heard before?

I had heard that Acrobat 4 handled TT fonts better and I must say I =
agree overall so far, but this is one glaring problem that I wish would =
work out of the box so I wouldn't have to reconfigure every one of a =
potential few hundred customer settings.  Can anyone tell me the =
simplest way to get my desired result?  I know it is possible somehow... =
I can feel the force surging within me.  :)

Mike Abrahamson
Liturgical Publications

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I just tried it on the PC with the same results. It also told me the mov
file was not a movie file.

Judith

Kevin Chu wrote:
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> Hmm I just downloaded this file and it wont work (Could be cuz im
> runnin it on a PC)!  First It cant find the mov file then when I
> manually locate the file it tells me that the file is not a movie
> file.
> 
> when I try to open the mov in QT4  I get the following error messages:
> 
> 1.   Somehting about my G: drive not being ready.. I don't even have a
> G drive
> 2.    The movie file "G3 Power\Desktop folder\interactive.swf" cannot
> be found.  without this file, the movie cannot play properly
> 
> Has anyone else tried it on a PC?
> 
> Both the pdf and mov files are in the same dir and I am running this
> under win NT 4/sp5
> 
> >
> >According to a thread on Graphics-L (see below)  Adobe wants their
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> seems
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> >want to sell?
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Sorry I left out the contact information.  Unfortunately I only have his
phone number:  718/548-3107

Hope this helps!

-S

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> that
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> Information Technologies, Inc., is a Cvision business partner and can
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> 
> -sheila
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Hi Richard,

Have you tried working with Binary data instead of ASCII?

This 30+MB file could be straining your setup. Sounds like
Distiller is running out of memory when digesting an image
on Page 19. Could be one of your PDF linked documents, too.
Check the page content. Try distilling "around" the problem
page and then combine the pages afterwards.

At any rate, you've definitely breached a limit. Whether
this has happened through complexity or volume is easy to
establish by doing the Binary test. With a smaller file,
you should get farther in your distilling process. If not,
it is likely attributable to a particular element on Page 19.

Also, could be that you've exceeded the maximum length for
a string of data.

Good luck,

Shane

> I'm Win 95, P133 w/64 MB RAM. I print from FrameMaker 5.5.6 through the Acrobat
> Distiller 3.0 printer (using the AdobePS4.3 driver) to a Distiller 3.02 Watched
> Folder. Distiller is set up as suggested by Adobe document 319033
> (Recommendations for High End Settings in Acrobat Distiller 3.02). This
> FrameMaker file is 28 pages in length -- it has nine PDFs linked in as graphics,
> and lots of formulas. The PS file is 34,681 KB in size.
> 
> PROBLEM LOG FILE:
> 
> (Loaded separation procset from prologue.ps)
> (Loaded separation procset from prologue.ps)
> %%[ ProductName: Distiller ]%%
> %%[ Page: 1 ]%%
> %%[ Page: 2 ]%%
> %%[ Page: 3 ]%%
> %%[ Page: 4 ]%%
> %%[ Page: 5 ]%%
> %%[ Page: 6 ]%%
> %%[ Page: 7 ]%%
> %%[ Page: 8 ]%%
> %%[ Page: 9 ]%%
> %%[ Page: 10 ]%%
> %%[ Page: 11 ]%%
> %%[ Page: 12 ]%%
> %%[ Page: 13 ]%%
> %%[ Page: 14 ]%%
> %%[ Page: 15 ]%%
> %%[ Page: 16 ]%%
> %%[ Page: 17 ]%%
> %%[ Page: 18 ]%%
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> ]%%
> 
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> 
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> They told her
> it is not the market focus they want for the product. So much so, that when
> she called them mumerous times to get to a person to help her with some
> information about the product (and legal permission to do what she is
> doing!), she instead got a reply from some honcho that told her to stop her
> class immediately. That her focus is NOT what
> Adobe wants their product to be known for. The focus is for prepress type
> processes not artists and creatives!

What I find interesting in this is the attempt to pigeon-hole the product
into what they consider unrelated segments - prepress and multi-media. These
walls are coming down - thanks, in large measure, to Acrobat and the
internet.

I don't think marketing is keeping up with the rapid changes in publishing
(and their implications for the future) any better than the law is.

Interesting thread... thanks.

C. Scott Miller

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>I just tried it on the PC with the same results. It also told me the mov
>file was not a movie file.
>
>Judith
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I get a similar error on a Mac.
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I have a mac and I get a message that it's looking for a .swf file.
Wouldn't this need to be included along with the .mov file?

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>>Judith
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>I get a similar error on a Mac.
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nlewis@ajc.com wrote:

> next thing i wanted to do was take that combined file and crop all of its
> pages uniformly. you can do that manually with the "Crop Pages…" menu item,
> but i can't find a way to script it. doesn't appear to be an apple event
> for it. i could use the menu access events in acrobat, but i haven't been
> able to get the syntax right. and even if i did that would only open the
> crop pages window, then the user would have to do the rest.
>
> • do you know of a way to automate the cropping?
> • do you know the syntax for accessing the menus?

Hey Neil, that was a tricky one.

It's turned out to be an amazingly simple solution.  Adobe has a pretty good
object model behind their AppleScript. The following script will crop the
first page of an open PDF by 1 inch on all sides:

tell application "Adobe Acrobat 3.0"
 copy bounds of PDPage 1 to {pageLeft, pageTop, pageRight, pageBottom}
 set bounds of PDPage 1 to {pageLeft + 72, pageTop - 72, pageRight - 72,
pageBottom + 72}
end tell

Something to keep in mind is that a PDF's coordinate system has the origin at
the bottom left, not top left, and it is measured in points, not inches (1
inch = 72 points).

You will also need to do this in a loop if you want all of the pages of a PDF
cropped.

As to the menus, you simply say:

tell application "Adobe Acrobat 3.0" to execute menu item "Crop Pages..." of
menu "Documents"

Like you thought, this will just present the crop pages window, so the
previous approach is better.

To figure out the exact text of a menu or menu item, you can "get title of
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What a bad move by Adobe. I personally have been pushing the use of Acrobat as an alternative to such applications as Director for many general uses. I have also recently won a national marketing award for a multimedia CD-ROM that I created using Acrobat, which won over other products created with "true multimedia software." Adobe should be spotlighting such things rather than asking/telling people not to do them.

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>What a bad move by Adobe. 

Singularly shortsighted as well, if true.

After all, if the current focus of Acrobat is pre-press, who pushed Adobe's
nose in that direction and adjusted the focus wheel if not users?

Telling users what they WILL do with the software rather than taking
delight in it when they find new and wonderful things to use it for (and
going with the flow) is a great way to drive a product.  Headfirst into the
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The problem is (probably) entirely self contained in page 18.
It is almost certainly a graphic; conceivably a font.

Copy page 18 to a new document. Does it work?
If not, remove all the graphics (including placed PDF).
Does it work now?

If so, try and isolate which one is the problem.

Aandi

> Can anyone tell me how to fix the problem shown at the end of 
> this e-mail?

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I have seen some PDF files in which bookmarks for subheadings are nested
within major headings and only appear when the triangle is clicked to open
them. When I create PDF files through PageMaker with the make bookmark
function on, the bookmarks are always in one level of hierarchy nested
under the word "contents". How do I make kindnested under each major
heading?

thanks!

Susan Gertz
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Have you checked out the "Quite Imposing" Acrobat plug-in from Quite
Software [www.quite.com]? It can crop all pages, just the odd pages, or just
the even pages. If it's scriptable, maybe it would solve your problem.

I haven't been following this thread till now, so maybe this isn't an
appropriate suggestion for your situation...

- Cynthia Leslie 

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nlewis@ajc.com wrote:

> next thing i wanted to do was take that combined file and crop all of its
> pages uniformly. you can do that manually with the "Crop Pages..." menu
item,
> but i can't find a way to script it. doesn't appear to be an apple event
> for it. i could use the menu access events in acrobat, but i haven't been
> able to get the syntax right. and even if i did that would only open the
> crop pages window, then the user would have to do the rest.
>
> * do you know of a way to automate the cropping?
> * do you know the syntax for accessing the menus?

Hey Neil, that was a tricky one.

It's turned out to be an amazingly simple solution.  Adobe has a pretty good
object model behind their AppleScript. The following script will crop the
first page of an open PDF by 1 inch on all sides:

tell application "Adobe Acrobat 3.0"
 copy bounds of PDPage 1 to {pageLeft, pageTop, pageRight, pageBottom}
 set bounds of PDPage 1 to {pageLeft + 72, pageTop - 72, pageRight - 72,
pageBottom + 72}
end tell

Something to keep in mind is that a PDF's coordinate system has the origin
at
the bottom left, not top left, and it is measured in points, not inches (1
inch = 72 points).

You will also need to do this in a loop if you want all of the pages of a
PDF
cropped.

As to the menus, you simply say:

tell application "Adobe Acrobat 3.0" to execute menu item "Crop Pages..." of
menu "Documents"

Like you thought, this will just present the crop pages window, so the
previous approach is better.

To figure out the exact text of a menu or menu item, you can "get title of
menu 2" or "get title of menu item 3 of menu 2".

-Frank


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Hi Aandi,

I thought that the page currently being processed 
doesn't show up in the log until it is completed 
processing. I could be mistaken, but I took the
problem page to be number 19.

> The problem is (probably) entirely self contained in page 18.
> It is almost certainly a graphic; conceivably a font.

The long play of FFFF...FFFF must be an actual string
that exists in the file - unless Distiller is skipping
like a bad record. Sounds like a preview header that's
trying to get interpreted. Printing this file to a printer
would not necessarily reveal that error since the 
preview header would likely be ignored in favour of the
higher rez data. 

I'm thinking that it's not a font, because the string
is so atypical of general font resources - unless it's
a corrupted font. In that case though, it would be more
common to get a "--nostringval--" type of error. On the
other hand, who knows what happens if it's a Type 3 font?

Your approach is right, Aandi. Divide and conquer.
Reduce the file to it's simplest form by a process
of elimination. Eventually, it would be nice if the
error handling were improved somewhat.

Best regards,

Shane

P.S.  Many people that I have met hold you in high esteem.
      Keep up your great work!

-- 
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>I have seen some PDF files in which bookmarks for subheadings are nested
>within major headings and only appear when the triangle is clicked to open
>them. When I create PDF files through PageMaker with the make bookmark
>function on, the bookmarks are always in one level of hierarchy nested
>under the word "contents". How do I make kindnested under each major
>heading?
Susan,

Simply create a new bookmark, then click and drag it to the right a bit to
"nest" under the previous bookmark.  The bookmarks can be easily
manipulated by the 'click - drag' process, and the twisty will
automatically appear after you create the heirarchy.

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> I thought that the page currently being processed 
> doesn't show up in the log until it is completed 
> processing. I could be mistaken, but I took the
> problem page to be number 19.

Yes, good point. I haven't checked, it could mean the
problem is on 19. 

> Your approach is right, Aandi. Divide and conquer.

Yes...with some planning it is possible to identify
which one of 1000 graphics is failing in at most 10
iterations, for instance.

Aandi

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> I have a question concerning bookmarks:
> I have a few hundreds PDF files, each file
> has a one (same) bookmark. I would like delete this
> bookmark because we will use PDF for different
> uses.
> Is it possible to delete bookmark from all PDF
> files in a batch mode or some other suggestion...?
> I have Compose program-very nice for the creation
> bookmarks and manipulation with PDF but I didn't find possibility delete
> bookmark.

With Acrobat 4, you can use OLE automation to "Destroy" a bookmark. So you
could write a simple program (in VB) to remove a particular bookmark from a
collection of PDF documents.


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You can also do the same OLE bookmark manipulation with Acrobat 3.

The only real headache about deleting bookmarks is that there is no OLE
method (at least none that I've been able to find) that allows you to
extract a list of the current bookmarks in a PDF; i.e., you have to know the
bookmark's exact, complete name before you can remove it, no wildcards allowed.

Tom Thiersch


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>With Acrobat 4, you can use OLE automation to "Destroy" a bookmark. So you
>could write a simple program (in VB) to remove a particular bookmark from a
>collection of PDF documents.
>


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Apologies for a tangent, but re: the second half of Susan Gertz's post last
week, did anyone have a recommendation for some software other than Adobe
Table? 

Danine Cozzens
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San Francisco, CA

> ----------
> From: 	Susan Gertz
> 
> By the way, does anyone know of any really good Mac software for making
> tables and saving them as good-quality eps files? Adobe Table is a
> terrible
> program (in other ways than just this this Distiller problem).
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Thanks Leonard (and all) - we use Illustrator for our EPS's, can you
post a URL for PS3 spec/new features guide?  So I can check we arent
using any of them :-) ...

I can test the Web Capture as I sit behind a firewall - On that, does
anyone know a way around the firewall?? I have tried passing the proxy
address/password and then the www address but that doesnt work.  Can't
for the life of me think why they would not add proxy/firewall support.

Cheers,

Dave .........
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> 	Probably because the stuff that Frame is generating doesn't 
> contain any Postscript 3 operators.   Try something like Illustrator 
> 8 with the wire mesh gradiants - that's something that's new to PS3. 
> Or for that matter, use the new "Web Capture" feature in Acrobat 4 
> and try opening one of those files in 3.
> 
> 
> Leonard
> 

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Thanks Leonard (and all) - we use Illustrator for our EPS's, can you
post a URL for PS3 spec/new features guide?  So I can check we arent
using any of them :-) ...

I can test the Web Capture as I sit behind a firewall - On that, does
anyone know a way around the firewall?? I have tried passing the proxy
address/password and then the www address but that doesnt work.  Can't
for the life of me think why they would not add proxy/firewall support.

Cheers,

Dave .........
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> 	Probably because the stuff that Frame is generating doesn't 
> contain any Postscript 3 operators.   Try something like Illustrator 
> 8 with the wire mesh gradiants - that's something that's new to PS3. 
> Or for that matter, use the new "Web Capture" feature in Acrobat 4 
> and try opening one of those files in 3.
> 
> 
> Leonard
> 

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> > Is it possible to delete bookmark from all PDF
> > files in a batch mode or some other suggestion...?
> > I have Compose program-very nice for the creation
> > bookmarks and manipulation with PDF but I didn't find possibility delete
> > bookmark.
> 
> With Acrobat 4, you can use OLE automation to "Destroy" a bookmark. So you
> could write a simple program (in VB) to remove a particular bookmark from a
> collection of PDF documents.

At http://www.codecuts.com, in the IAC section, is some VB code that goes
through all PDF files in a specified directory, sets some info fields, and
saves the modified file. This code could easily be modified to remove a
bookmark instead. And it does work with Acrobat 3, as Tom mentioned.


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At 8:32 AM +0800 5/20/99, Wraight, David D. wrote:
>Thanks Leonard (and all) - we use Illustrator for our EPS's, can you
>post a URL for PS3 spec/new features guide?  So I can check we arent
>using any of them :-) ...

	I don't have it handy, but it's probably on the Adobe web 
site, which has a search engine on it.   Off hand, it should be 
things like the gradients and non RGB color spaces that might hit PDF 
1.3 features.


>I can test the Web Capture as I sit behind a firewall - On that, does
>anyone know a way around the firewall?? I have tried passing the proxy
>address/password and then the www address but that doesnt work.  Can't
>for the life of me think why they would not add proxy/firewall support.
>
	It DOES support proxies - that was the only way they could 
get out from behind the Adobe firewall ;).


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Hello all,

I thought this bit of news from Microsoft and Xerox might make some
interesting reading for some.

Joint project aims to make it simpler to scan, sort, send and store
digital documents...

"Microsoft President Steve Ballmer and Xerox CEO Rick Thoman said the
project would make it simpler for people to scan, sort, send and store
digital documents, and eventually the alliance will incorporate devices
such as digital cameras and handheld computers."

See - http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/news/0,4586,2260988,00.html for
the full story. Be sure to read the "Talkback" section at the bottom -
there are some quite humorous responses.

It's a shame they haven't teamed up with Adobe rather than trying to
reinvent the "PDF" wheel.

regards,

Karl De Abrew
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Thank you George and Tom for the advice.
As I can see from discussion, manipulations with the sets of PDF files
is sometimes more effective when we write a VB program.
I usually use prolog.ps and epilogue.ps
to manipulate with the sets of PS files.
But I would like to learn about VB, too.
Would you please recommend me where to start? Some books, program etc.
Thank you for your advice.
Bohumir Valter
Document Data Services

At 19:25 19.5.1999 -0700, you wrote:

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>> > Is it possible to delete bookmark from all PDF
>> > files in a batch mode or some other suggestion...?
>> > I have Compose program-very nice for the creation
>> > bookmarks and manipulation with PDF but I didn't find possibility delete
>> > bookmark.
>> 
>> With Acrobat 4, you can use OLE automation to "Destroy" a bookmark. So you
>> could write a simple program (in VB) to remove a particular bookmark from a
>> collection of PDF documents.
>
>At http://www.codecuts.com, in the IAC section, is some VB code that goes
>through all PDF files in a specified directory, sets some info fields, and
>saves the modified file. This code could easily be modified to remove a
>bookmark instead. And it does work with Acrobat 3, as Tom mentioned.
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links to URLS and cross reference links

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>>Should links made in Pagemaker be retained in a PDF file.
>
>What sort of links do you mean?  How were they created?  You can certainly
>define links in PM that are retained in the PDF;  of course you have to
>specify that that happen in the Export PDF options.
>
>There's a bug in PM that can cause it to generate blank bookmark links from
>TOC.  Nobody seems to know what causes it, and there isn't really a
>solution for it other than manually fixing it.  The bookmark links are
>there in Reader/Exchange, they work, but they're blank bookmarks.  
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no layers, someone else has suggested plugins

In message <000201bea1eb$ea59e920$1b8799d1@oemcomputer>, mailto:Jim
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>Multiple layers may be your problem. I know layers are a problem with
>re-imposition and I think they are a problem with PDF Export.
>
>If you have multiple layers, make a copy of your document then delete extra
>layers. As you delete each layer, PageMaker asks you which layer you want to
>move the objects to. That way you don't loose anything. Test the export when
>you get the file down to one layer.
>
>If this does solve your problem, scan the file carefully. Once the layers
>are gone, objects may overlay incorrectly.
>
>Let me know if this works. I suspect this was the problem when I couldn't
>export a file about four months ago but never got around to testing it. I
>just printed to PS and distilled (I didn't need the links). When I had
>similar problems with re-imposing the same file into a booklet, I found a
>note on the Adobe tech support site about removing excess layers.
>
>Good Luck.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>Does anyone know why the file crashes when I select Export PDF options.
>Should links made in Pagemaker be retained in a PDF file.
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Hello Bohumir,

> As I can see from discussion, manipulations with the sets of PDF files
> is sometimes more effective when we write a VB program.
> I usually use prolog.ps and epilogue.ps
> to manipulate with the sets of PS files.
> But I would like to learn about VB, too.
> Would you please recommend me where to start? Some books, program etc.

You should download the Acrobat SDK first up - from
http://partners.adobe.com/supportservice/devrelations/nonmember/acrosdk/
main.html and read through the IAC documentation.

I have created a simple program that allows you to remove a single
bookmark from a folder of PDFs and posted it to Code Cuts. It is not
officially released yet, but you can download it the full VB6 source and
EXE file from
http://www.CodeCuts.com/codecuts/downloads/RemoveBookmark.zip

You will need the VB6 runtimes to use this. Let me know if you do not
have them.

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Further to my problem exporting pdf from pagemaker

I have updated to 6.52 and updated the pdf plugin

I now get an error ....the instruction at "  " reference memory at "
". The memory could not be "written"

Does anyone know how I can resolve this
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Hello,

I want to convert a PowerPoint diaporama to PDF ; but does anyone knows the page set up to choose in powerPoint to obtain a complete full screen diaporama in PDF ? Thanks

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Hello,

I 've got a problem, every time I try to print a PDF on a Dot-Matrix printer. When I select a non-square resolution (e.g. 360x180) on a 24-pin printer, the printed text characters seem to override each other. Has anybody any idea about this problem? I know that this problem has been discussed in this list before, but I didn't find from the archives any solution or explanation about it. What  Adobe states about this issue?


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A recurring source of frustration is the use of blind links to PDF files on
web pages.  When I click on a link, I expect the browser to return an HTML
page.  Sometimes, unexpectedly, it brings up a PDF file.  Very often, I
would rather not take the time to have the plug-in load and display the
document.  

Many pages do not clearly mark links which bring up PDF files rather than
HTML pages.  I believe that web page authors should make it a practice to
clearly mark links to PDF files so that the user can make an informed
choice about whether to follow the link.


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Setup:
Using Distiller 3.02 on Win 95, distilling a large PS file from Frame 5.1.2 and
AdobePS 4.1 (yes, I know 4.3 is available). Hardware ranges from P233/32MB to
P233/84MB. Also, we're distilling as 2.1 due to compatibility issues.

Problem:
We've got a couple of large Frame books (1,000+ pages) that we output to PS then
distill. While distilling, we frequently get a Low Printer VM error message at
different parts of the distilling process. The error does not always occur at
the same page while distilling the same PS file.

What is really behind this error message? Since it occurs in different spots of
the same PS file, it leads me to believe it's something with Distiller.

Any ideas?

Thanks,

------------------------------------
Scott Hamlow
Technical Writer - New Technologies
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The problem is that the PostScript code insists on checking how
much memory is left, and stops if it thinks there isn't enough,
even though Distiller is quite willing to give more on demand.

The solution is to force Distiller to commit a large amount of
RAM up front. For instance, this will commit 8 megabytes:

1000 { 8000 string } repeat clear

This can be added to the prologue, example.ps, or PostScript
itself.

Perhaps (not sure) you can even distill this as a separate job
to force up the limit.

Aandi


> What is really behind this error message? Since it occurs in 
> different spots of
> the same PS file, it leads me to believe it's something with 
> Distiller.
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>
>The long play of FFFF...FFFF must be an actual string
>that exists in the file - unless Distiller is skipping
>like a bad record. Sounds like a preview header that's
>trying to get interpreted. Printing this file to a printer
>would not necessarily reveal that error since the 
>preview header would likely be ignored in favour of the
>higher rez data. 

That's not quite right.  The printer won't ignore a preview image in an EPS
any more than Distiller will.  The app that makes the PS should never
include a preview image from EPS in the PS at all.  

>
>I'm thinking that it's not a font, because the string
>is so atypical of general font resources - unless it's
>a corrupted font. 

It could be a bitmap or, as Aandi points out, a bitmapped font, in which
case it'd look pretty much the same.


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>links to URLS and cross reference links
>

Then yes, you can create them in PM and, again assuming you choose the
appropriate options in Export to PDF, they become links in the PDF as well.

I think there's even a script included with PM that lets you go through the
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>I want to convert a PowerPoint diaporama to PDF ; but does anyone knows
the page set up to choose in powerPoint to obtain a complete full screen
diaporama in PDF ? Thanks
>

To begin with, if you're using PowerPoint 97, don't use PDFWriter if you
can avoid it.  They don't get along well together.

The Distiller Assistant driver seems to work well, though, so I'd use it.

In PowerPoint's print dialog, choose the Scale to fit paper option before
printing.  That's a good starting point.  Try it and see if it works for
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Thanks. I'll check it out.

- Cynthia

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Thanks for the info Aandi. If anyone knew the answer, I knew you would.

Now for a follow-up question. Is there a formula or guidelines to how much
memory I should allocate?  We're distilling PS files from 30MB to 300MB.

>
> The problem is that the PostScript code insists on checking how
> much memory is left, and stops if it thinks there isn't enough,
> even though Distiller is quite willing to give more on demand.
>
> The solution is to force Distiller to commit a large amount of
> RAM up front. For instance, this will commit 8 megabytes:
>
> 1000 { 8000 string } repeat clear
>
> This can be added to the prologue, example.ps, or PostScript
> itself.
>
> Perhaps (not sure) you can even distill this as a separate job
> to force up the limit.
>
> Aandi
>
>
> > What is really behind this error message? Since it occurs in
> > different spots of
> > the same PS file, it leads me to believe it's something with
> > Distiller.


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I want to print multiple Word 97 files to a .prn file then move to an In
folder to be PDF'd.  The documents contain cross document links I want the
links to remain, is this possible.  I have over 300 word files which
contain relative links that I need to get into PDF format is there an
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Hi,

> I have over 300 word files which
> contain relative links that I need to get into PDF format is there an
> automatic way to batch them all.

You might want to take a look at Multilinker -
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Distiller doesn't need much VM; it's used to store fonts,
paths, some other stuff. It's unusual to need more than a
megabyte or two. But if you get the error, double the
size (double either of the numbers in the example; the
number of bytes reserved is the product of the two).

There is no connection at all between file size and memory
requirement (witness the fact that the one line of code
needed 5 meg...)

Aandi

> Thanks for the info Aandi. If anyone knew the answer, I knew 
> you would.
> 
> Now for a follow-up question. Is there a formula or 
> guidelines to how much
> memory I should allocate?  We're distilling PS files from 
> 30MB to 300MB.

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On 18 May 99, at 12:12, Hamm, John wrote about "[PDF] Converting 11X17
Pagemaker to":

> I am trying to post a newsletter crated on Pagemaker 6.5 on a web page
> using Adobe Acrobat 3.02. Problem is that the newsletter was created for
> 11X17 printing, so that's the size of the .pdf document. How do I fix this
> so that people can read and print regular page size versions?

I had the identical task to perform for some of my company's old newsletters
which had been produced as 11"x17" spreads. Rather than go back and fiddle
with the original PageMaker spreads, I did the following to each 11"x17" PDF
file:

1) I made 2 copies of the PDF file.
2) Using Exchange, in one copy I cropped out the right half (8.5") of the
spread pages to isolate the left side (even-numbered) final-size pages .
3) In the second copy I cropped the left half (8.5") of the spread pages to
isolate the right side (odd-numbered) final-size pages .
4) I then reordered pages in the first copy so that the pages were in their
proper numerical sequence.
5) I then inserted, page by page, the "right-side" pages from copy 2 into
the first copy, in their proper sequence.
6) I then did a "SaveAs" to a new 8.5"x11" PDF file.

My newsletters were only 12 pages each so the above steps did not represent
that much time and effort. I'm uncertain whether this method results in
large PDF (twice as large??) files or whether the information used to
describe the cropped out portions of the pages is, in fact, discarded. I
never checked. I suppose redistilling the new PDF file would take care of
any unnecessary data in a bloated PDF file.

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> On 18 May 99, at 12:12, Hamm, John wrote about "[PDF] Converting 11X17
> Pagemaker to":
>
>> I am trying to post a newsletter crated on Pagemaker 6.5 on a web page
>> using Adobe Acrobat 3.02. Problem is that the newsletter was created for
>> 11X17 printing, so that's the size of the .pdf document. How do I fix this
>> so that people can read and print regular page size versions?
>
> I had the identical task to perform for some of my company's old newsletters
> which had been produced as 11"x17" spreads. Rather than go back and fiddle
> with the original PageMaker spreads, I did the following to each 11"x17" PDF
> file:
>
> -David O'Shea

This is a good solution if, in fact, the original document was an 8 1/2 x 11
trim sized publication in 2-page spreads. From the thread, I assumed that he
had an 11 x 17 tabloid-sized newsletter, which needed to be reduced to
letter size.

Only the original poster knows for sure.

Rich

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If you want to know what's going to happen when you click on a link, most of
the time you can tell by just hovering over it; in Microsoft Internet
Explorer, for example, the link's URL can be seen at the lower-left of the
browser window.

As for unexpected actions when you click on a link, PDFs shouldn't be
singled-out for this complaint; equal and worse problems are caused by the
many "unmarked" links that download Java applets, or start new copies of
your browser, or play huge multimedia clips, etc. 

Most of these annoyances can be defeated simply by choosing appropriate
"safety level" settings in the browser; in MSIE, you can set it to
"Disable", or "Prompt", when you click on links that invoke ActiveX (such as
PDFs or Java appls).


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At 08:51 AM 5/20/99 -0400, you wrote:
>A recurring source of frustration is the use of blind links to PDF files on
>web pages.  When I click on a link, I expect the browser to return an HTML
>page.  Sometimes, unexpectedly, it brings up a PDF file.  Very often, I
>would rather not take the time to have the plug-in load and display the
>document.  
>
>Many pages do not clearly mark links which bring up PDF files rather than
>HTML pages.  I believe that web page authors should make it a practice to
>clearly mark links to PDF files so that the user can make an informed
>choice about whether to follow the link.
>
>
>==============================
>M. Sean Fosmire
>fosmire@up.bresnan.net
>http://www.sismich.com/msf.htm
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I am revisiting this thread from a month ago (the original question is
attached), which many of you answered (and I appreciate the help that
all of you offered).  It was the consensus of the group that the most
reliable solution to this problem was to produce PS output using the
driver for the printer that was originally used, and to Distill that PS
output.  Simple enough solution, but...

1) Although the HP LaserJet 5si is PS-compatible, our company loads only
the PCL driver on our desktops.  That's what was used to make the hard
copy generated from MS Word 97 for comparison.  I have to make a special
request for our desktop personnel to install the PS driver for me, as
our NT desktops are locked and I am not an administrator.

2) In my experience, something as minor as version differences in the
same printer driver can cause reflow problems (I remember one such
problem with the HP LJ4si PCL driver here that was giving us fits, until
we figured out what was happening).  And I know that the PCL drivers and
PS drivers for the same printer do not produce identical output, or at
least in the past that was the case.

Here is the question:  If I use a HP LaserJet5si PS driver to produce PS
output from MS Word 97, then processed that PS output via Distiller,
will the resulting PDF file match the printed copy generated using the
HP LaserJet 5si PCL driver?

(and, if the answer is NO...then what?)

Thanks in advance,

Gary E. Decker, Senior Information Services Analyst
Wolf Creek Nuclear Operating Corporation
1550 Oxen Lane N.E., P.O. Box 411
Burlington, KS  66839-0411  USA
Phone:  (316) 364-8831, ext. 8434

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At 4/23/99 05:33 PM , Decker Gary E wrote:
>I have a document produced in Microsoft Word 97.  I have been given the
>task of converting this document to Adobe Acrobat format, which I have
>done, using PDFWriter.  However, the originator noted the following:
>
>There are NOTE boxes throughout the document, bounded on the top and
>bottom by lines made up of 125 hyphens, in Arial, 11 pt. (as is the
>entire document).  As originally printed (on a HP LaserJet 5si), the
>lines above and below the NOTE boxes spanned from left to right margin,
>6 1/2 inches, or 16.4 cm.  This was also the case when printing to
other
>HP LaserJet family printers, such as the 4si and 5m.  However, when
>converted to Acrobat (embedding fonts), the lines were barely 6 1/4
>inches, or 15.9 cm.
>
>As these NOTE boxes appear just before tables in the document (which
are
>standard MS Word tables of a fixed width), there is a noticeable gap
>between the end of the boundary lines and the right margin when
>converted to Acrobat.  This could be seen in MS Word as soon as the PDF
>Writer printer driver was selected.  It is also apparent that other
text
>in the document suffers from horizontal compression, causing lines to
>break in places other than the printed copy.
>
>While this might be a minor issue to some, to the originator of this
>document, it is imperative that the Acrobat version look the same as
the
>printed version.  I have attempted using Distiller versus PDFWriter,
but
>the results are the same.  Why is it that the horizontal spacing of
>fonts (at least this one) in Acrobat differs that much from that
>produced by a very common family of printers?  What can be done about
>this?
>


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Shane, Aandi, Steve, et al.,

I tried printing the problem file to my hardcopy (PostScript) printer (TI
microLaser PowerPro (2015.107) 600 dpi, 14 MB RAM). It printed through page 18,
then gave me the "Error: limitcheck; OffendingCommand: FFFFF ..." response
(printed on what should of been page 19, and it purged the rest of the print
job).

I could distill to PDF or print hardcopy every page except page 19. Printing
page 19 gave me the error (both in printing hardcopy and in the distilling
process).

Page 19 has a PDF graphic on it, similar the other eight PDF graphics (of which,
seven are placed on previous pages). If I removed the PDF graphic from page 19,
all pages (either all twenty-six or just page 19 alone) distilled to PDF or
printed on hardcopy.

For no logical reason, I decided to change the page 19 PDF graphic resolution
from 1200 dpi to 600 dpi. Now, both page 19 alone and the entire twenty-six page
file distills to PDF or prints hardcopy.

Soo, my problem is fixed, but, I do not have a clear understanding of the root
cause of the problem other than it had something to do with the 1200 dpi PDF
graphic on page 19.

Thank you very much for your help.

Richard Inch
Technical Documentation Manager
Leybold Inficon
East Syracuse, NY 13057-9714

**************************
ORIGINAL POST

Can anyone tell me how to fix the problem shown at the end of this e-mail?

I'm Win 95, P133 w/64 MB RAM. I print from FrameMaker 5.5.6 through the Acrobat
Distiller 3.0 printer (using the AdobePS4.3 driver) to a Distiller 3.02 Watched
Folder. Distiller is set up as suggested by Adobe document 319033
(Recommendations for High End Settings in Acrobat Distiller 3.02). This
FrameMaker file is 28 pages in length -- it has nine PDFs linked in as graphics,
and lots of formulas. The PS file is 34,681 KB in size.

Thanks!

Richard Inch
Technical Documentation Manager
Leybold Inficon
East Syracuse, NY 13057-9714

PROBLEM LOG FILE:

(Loaded separation procset from prologue.ps)
(Loaded separation procset from prologue.ps)
%%[ ProductName: Distiller ]%%
%%[ Page: 1 ]%%
%%[ Page: 2 ]%%
%%[ Page: 3 ]%%
%%[ Page: 4 ]%%
%%[ Page: 5 ]%%
%%[ Page: 6 ]%%
%%[ Page: 7 ]%%
%%[ Page: 8 ]%%
%%[ Page: 9 ]%%
%%[ Page: 10 ]%%
%%[ Page: 11 ]%%
%%[ Page: 12 ]%%
%%[ Page: 13 ]%%
%%[ Page: 14 ]%%
%%[ Page: 15 ]%%
%%[ Page: 16 ]%%
%%[ Page: 17 ]%%
%%[ Page: 18 ]%%
%%[ Error: limitcheck; OffendingCommand: FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

]%%

Stack:
-save-
-save-

%%[ Flushing: rest of job (to end-of-file) will be ignored ]%%
%%[ Warning: PostScript error. No PDF file produced. ] %%




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The answer is a very strong "NOT LIKELY"!

The reason is that Microsoft Word and many other applications
get font data directly from the driver in a resolution-dependent
manner. To further complicate matters, Microsoft Word appears to
factor in physical imageable areas available in printing into
its pagination decisions.

Even within PostScript using the best of the Adobe drives,
Microsoft Word will often give different line breaks and page
breaks for a document depending upon the print resolution chosen
for a single Adobe PostScript printer. For two such printers with
the same resolution, Microsoft Word will often give different
line breaks and page breaks if there are significantly different
physical boundaries at which the printer can print.

The only way to fully control Microsoft Word output might be
to always print to Acrobat Distiller and use the exact same
print resolution option. Then print the resultant PDF file to
whatever printer you want. Acrobat doesn't change page layout
based on the printer.

Note, by the way, that the LaserJet 5si did NOT have PostScript
unless you bought the 5siMX model or the extra-cost PostScript
option.

	- Dov



At 5/20/99 11:35 AM , Decker Gary E wrote:
>I am revisiting this thread from a month ago (the original question is
>attached), which many of you answered (and I appreciate the help that
>all of you offered).  It was the consensus of the group that the most
>reliable solution to this problem was to produce PS output using the
>driver for the printer that was originally used, and to Distill that PS
>output.  Simple enough solution, but...
>
>1) Although the HP LaserJet 5si is PS-compatible, our company loads only
>the PCL driver on our desktops.  That's what was used to make the hard
>copy generated from MS Word 97 for comparison.  I have to make a special
>request for our desktop personnel to install the PS driver for me, as
>our NT desktops are locked and I am not an administrator.
>
>2) In my experience, something as minor as version differences in the
>same printer driver can cause reflow problems (I remember one such
>problem with the HP LJ4si PCL driver here that was giving us fits, until
>we figured out what was happening).  And I know that the PCL drivers and
>PS drivers for the same printer do not produce identical output, or at
>least in the past that was the case.
>
>Here is the question:  If I use a HP LaserJet5si PS driver to produce PS
>output from MS Word 97, then processed that PS output via Distiller,
>will the resulting PDF file match the printed copy generated using the
>HP LaserJet 5si PCL driver?
>
>(and, if the answer is NO...then what?)
>
>Thanks in advance,
>
>Gary E. Decker, Senior Information Services Analyst
>Wolf Creek Nuclear Operating Corporation
>1550 Oxen Lane N.E., P.O. Box 411
>Burlington, KS  66839-0411  USA
>Phone:  (316) 364-8831, ext. 8434
>
>----------
>At 4/23/99 05:33 PM , Decker Gary E wrote:
>>I have a document produced in Microsoft Word 97.  I have been given the
>>task of converting this document to Adobe Acrobat format, which I have
>>done, using PDFWriter.  However, the originator noted the following:
>>
>>There are NOTE boxes throughout the document, bounded on the top and
>>bottom by lines made up of 125 hyphens, in Arial, 11 pt. (as is the
>>entire document).  As originally printed (on a HP LaserJet 5si), the
>>lines above and below the NOTE boxes spanned from left to right margin,
>>6 1/2 inches, or 16.4 cm.  This was also the case when printing to
>other
>>HP LaserJet family printers, such as the 4si and 5m.  However, when
>>converted to Acrobat (embedding fonts), the lines were barely 6 1/4
>>inches, or 15.9 cm.
>>
>>As these NOTE boxes appear just before tables in the document (which
>are
>>standard MS Word tables of a fixed width), there is a noticeable gap
>>between the end of the boundary lines and the right margin when
>>converted to Acrobat.  This could be seen in MS Word as soon as the PDF
>>Writer printer driver was selected.  It is also apparent that other
>text
>>in the document suffers from horizontal compression, causing lines to
>>break in places other than the printed copy.
>>
>>While this might be a minor issue to some, to the originator of this
>>document, it is imperative that the Acrobat version look the same as
>the
>>printed version.  I have attempted using Distiller versus PDFWriter,
>but
>>the results are the same.  Why is it that the horizontal spacing of
>>fonts (at least this one) in Acrobat differs that much from that
>>produced by a very common family of printers?  What can be done about
>>this?
>>
>
>
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> Here is the question:  If I use a HP LaserJet5si PS driver to 
> produce PS
> output from MS Word 97, then processed that PS output via Distiller,
> will the resulting PDF file match the printed copy generated using the
> HP LaserJet 5si PCL driver?
> 
> (and, if the answer is NO...then what?)
> 

Frankly, the solution is one nobody wants to hear.

Word is not a tool for page make-up, which is why it reflows text
without a second thought.

Through ignorance, poor training (e.g. many users have not been trained
that they do not use RETURN to force page breaks; many do not even
know how to use the TAB key, and certainly don't know how to avoid
typing page numbers in their document), poor purchasing decisions, and
a "one size fits all" mindset in IT departments, Word is constantly 
used in such a way, or for such projects, that reflow
becomes a major issue. If Word is used correctly and for suitable
work, the problem does not exist.

(If you think you have a counter example, then in my opinion you don't:
you have a mis-use of Word).

Aandi

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Richard,

Reducing the resolution of the graphic makes perfect sense. When a
limitcheck error is associated with the image operator, usually this means
that the source image data width is too long for the image operator to
handle.

Some LanguageLevel 1 interpreters had as an upper limit for the width of
scan samples to be 3300. Nowadays this limit is much greater in LL2 and 3
products, but the limit (device dependent) can also be exceeded. This is
probably what you were seeing with your file. A very wide high resolution
scan could provoke this problem. Soooo, the fix is to reduce the resolution
or shorten the image.

--
Todd Donahue
Acquired Knowledge Inc.
todd@acquiredknowledge.com

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>From: rinch@inficon.com
>To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com
>Subject: Summary (?): [PDF] Error: limitcheck; OffendingCommand: FFFFF
>Date: Thu, May 20, 1999, 11:27 AM
>

> Shane, Aandi, Steve, et al.,
>
> I tried printing the problem file to my hardcopy (PostScript) printer (TI
> microLaser PowerPro (2015.107) 600 dpi, 14 MB RAM). It printed through page
18,
> then gave me the "Error: limitcheck; OffendingCommand: FFFFF ..." response
> (printed on what should of been page 19, and it purged the rest of the print
> job).
>
> I could distill to PDF or print hardcopy every page except page 19. Printing
> page 19 gave me the error (both in printing hardcopy and in the distilling
> process).
>
> Page 19 has a PDF graphic on it, similar the other eight PDF graphics (of
which,
> seven are placed on previous pages). If I removed the PDF graphic from page
19,
> all pages (either all twenty-six or just page 19 alone) distilled to PDF or
> printed on hardcopy.
>
> For no logical reason, I decided to change the page 19 PDF graphic resolution
> from 1200 dpi to 600 dpi. Now, both page 19 alone and the entire twenty-six
page
> file distills to PDF or prints hardcopy.
>
> Soo, my problem is fixed, but, I do not have a clear understanding of the root
> cause of the problem other than it had something to do with the 1200 dpi PDF
> graphic on page 19.
>
> Thank you very much for your help.
>
> Richard Inch
> Technical Documentation Manager
> Leybold Inficon
> East Syracuse, NY 13057-9714
> 

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My mistake, I forgot to spell it out completely.  We DO indeed have the
HP LaserJet 5siMX.

As I work in a nuclear power generation facility, the document in
question is one that must be submitted to the Nuclear Regulatory
Commission periodically.  At present time, they have been provided with
a hard copy (generated from Word 97 using the PCL driver for the HP
LaserJet 5siMX).  We want very badly to produce this document, or set of
documents, more than 1000 pages in all, in PDF form, on CD.  However,
exact matching is a must if we do so.  Resumittal of the hard copy is
not an option.  Any attempt I make to convert this Word 97 document to
PDF, no matter how I try, causes one of several problems:

*	text within a table cell not breaking at the exact places it did
on the hard copy;
*	dashed lines which went from left to right margin on the hard
copy, visibly shorter on the PDF
*	other problems related to reflow

I told my management that the only solution that would provide an exact
match would be to scan the Word output, and using Capture, produce an
Image+Text PDF.  However, using Compose to produce links in this
document would be iffy at best, plus the file size would be huge.  So,
that idea was nixed.

However, I did suggest that, when the next revision is submitted, that
we FIRST convert the document to PDF, and THEN generate hard copy (or
better yet, don't submit a hard copy, just the PDF on CD).

Thanks for confirming what I had already suspected was the case.

Gary E. Decker, Senior Information Services Analyst
Wolf Creek Nuclear Operating Corporation
1550 Oxen Lane N.E., P.O. Box 411
Burlington, KS  66839-0411  USA
Phone:  (316) 364-8831, ext. 8434

> ----------
	Dov Isaacs said on 5/20/99 at 1:55 PM:

> The answer is a very strong "NOT LIKELY"!
> 
> The reason is that Microsoft Word and many other applications
> get font data directly from the driver in a resolution-dependent
> manner. To further complicate matters, Microsoft Word appears to
> factor in physical imageable areas available in printing into
> its pagination decisions.
> 
> Even within PostScript using the best of the Adobe drives,
> Microsoft Word will often give different line breaks and page
> breaks for a document depending upon the print resolution chosen
> for a single Adobe PostScript printer. For two such printers with
> the same resolution, Microsoft Word will often give different
> line breaks and page breaks if there are significantly different
> physical boundaries at which the printer can print.
> 
> The only way to fully control Microsoft Word output might be
> to always print to Acrobat Distiller and use the exact same
> print resolution option. Then print the resultant PDF file to
> whatever printer you want. Acrobat doesn't change page layout
> based on the printer.
> 
> Note, by the way, that the LaserJet 5si did NOT have PostScript
> unless you bought the 5siMX model or the extra-cost PostScript
> option.
> 
> 	- Dov
> 

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Gary,
Another solution would be to continue to output PCL but then use the Sys-PCL
product from Sysprint (http://www.syprint.com) to convert from PCL to PDF.
This would allow you to continue to use your PCL drivers while giving you
PDF output that is faithful to the PCL.

     Pete

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com [mailto:owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com]On
> Behalf Of Decker Gary E
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> Subject: RE: [PDF] Re: Reflow & Horizontal Spacing of Text (Revisited)

> ____________________________________________________________
>
> My mistake, I forgot to spell it out completely.  We DO indeed have the
> HP LaserJet 5siMX.
>
> As I work in a nuclear power generation facility, the document in
> question is one that must be submitted to the Nuclear Regulatory
> Commission periodically.  At present time, they have been provided with
> a hard copy (generated from Word 97 using the PCL driver for the HP
> LaserJet 5siMX).  We want very badly to produce this document, or set of
> documents, more than 1000 pages in all, in PDF form, on CD.  However,
> exact matching is a must if we do so.  Resumittal of the hard copy is
> not an option.  Any attempt I make to convert this Word 97 document to
> PDF, no matter how I try, causes one of several problems:
>
> *	text within a table cell not breaking at the exact places it did
> on the hard copy;
> *	dashed lines which went from left to right margin on the hard
> copy, visibly shorter on the PDF
> *	other problems related to reflow
>
> I told my management that the only solution that would provide an exact
> match would be to scan the Word output, and using Capture, produce an
> Image+Text PDF.  However, using Compose to produce links in this
> document would be iffy at best, plus the file size would be huge.  So,
> that idea was nixed.
>
> However, I did suggest that, when the next revision is submitted, that
> we FIRST convert the document to PDF, and THEN generate hard copy (or
> better yet, don't submit a hard copy, just the PDF on CD).
>
> Thanks for confirming what I had already suspected was the case.
>
> Gary E. Decker, Senior Information Services Analyst
> Wolf Creek Nuclear Operating Corporation
> 1550 Oxen Lane N.E., P.O. Box 411
> Burlington, KS  66839-0411  USA
> Phone:  (316) 364-8831, ext. 8434
>
> > ----------
> 	Dov Isaacs said on 5/20/99 at 1:55 PM:
>
> > The answer is a very strong "NOT LIKELY"!
> >
> > The reason is that Microsoft Word and many other applications
> > get font data directly from the driver in a resolution-dependent
> > manner. To further complicate matters, Microsoft Word appears to
> > factor in physical imageable areas available in printing into
> > its pagination decisions.
> >
> > Even within PostScript using the best of the Adobe drives,
> > Microsoft Word will often give different line breaks and page
> > breaks for a document depending upon the print resolution chosen
> > for a single Adobe PostScript printer. For two such printers with
> > the same resolution, Microsoft Word will often give different
> > line breaks and page breaks if there are significantly different
> > physical boundaries at which the printer can print.
> >
> > The only way to fully control Microsoft Word output might be
> > to always print to Acrobat Distiller and use the exact same
> > print resolution option. Then print the resultant PDF file to
> > whatever printer you want. Acrobat doesn't change page layout
> > based on the printer.
> >
> > Note, by the way, that the LaserJet 5si did NOT have PostScript
> > unless you bought the 5siMX model or the extra-cost PostScript
> > option.
> >
> > 	- Dov
> >
>
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A couple of options that I can see...

rinch@inficon.com wrote:
> Page 19 has a PDF graphic on it, similar the other eight PDF graphics (of which,
> seven are placed on previous pages). If I removed the PDF graphic from page 19,
> all pages (either all twenty-six or just page 19 alone) distilled to PDF or
> printed on hardcopy.

Okay, so that's the offending entity.

> For no logical reason, I decided to change the page 19 PDF graphic resolution
> from 1200 dpi to 600 dpi. Now, both page 19 alone and the entire twenty-six page
> file distills to PDF or prints hardcopy.

This was a VERY logical thing to do. Congratulate yourself!
Reducing file size can have as much impact as reducing complexity.

I do have two questions... Q#1. When you reduced the "graphic
resolution"
of the PDF file, by which of the following methods did you accomplish
this? ...

a) Opened a raster image contained in the PDF and downsampled.
b) Set the Page Setup or Printer Setup for the Driver to 600 dpi.
c) Changed the Distiller Job Options for image resolution to 600.

Q#2. Also, have you tried placing the original 1200 dpi file back into 
the same document that you deleted it from? This will sometimes
work if there was an error resulting from the parsing of the
preview data during the initial import. This is not necessarily
a redundant test.

> Soo, my problem is fixed, but, I do not have a clear understanding of the root
> cause of the problem other than it had something to do with the 1200 dpi PDF
> graphic on page 19.
 
Glad that things have worked out, but it's always good to
know the exact cause for future reference. That way, you
get to look like such a genius next time!  :)

Best regards,

Shane

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dear pdf-makers (via pdfmaker AND pdfmarks)

since pdfmaker for word97 does not support some important features (such as
graphic-buttons which serve as navigation) which otherwise would be very
tediuos to include via acrobat exchange, I intend to include pdfmarks via
the PRINT field in ms-word97, thus generating navigation bars in a simple
way.

my readings are based on
- the pdf primer by thomas merz:
http://www.ozemail.com.au/~hypercom/tools/acrobat/pdfmark_primer.pdf, and
the
- adobe acrobat pdfmark reference manual.

when trying to setup links, I am facing the following problems:

- the coordinates (default user spaces 1/72 inch) entered in the pdfmarks
turn out completely wrong (like a) starting in the left upper corner
instead of left lower corner, b) stunted by factor 5-10) in the pdf-file
(one page comprising like 5000x7000 pts!!!); since I aim to use the "\p
pic" group of the PRINT field, I manage without any concrete coordinates by
putting:
{DRUCK \p pic "[ /Rect [ wp$x wp$y ] /Page 2 /Subtype /Link /ANN pdfmark"}.
This works, but:

- even though I set the pdfmaker preferences for "link appearance" on
"invisible rectangle", the pdf-file shows this "invisible rectangle" around
the link rectangle; how to get rid of it?

anybody any idea or experience on that?
anybody who knows whether the thing works better with the in-built pdfmaker
in acrobat 4.0?

regards, lambert

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Richard,

As I understand Acrobat, graphics are acceptable at resolutons up to 600dpi.
Sounds like that was your problem.

>From my experience, there is no need to use a higher resolution than 600dpi
for anything other than prepress. And even then, it depends on what you're
sending to press, the output materials, and the size of the output material,
and so forth.

Hope that helps.
Laura Hagar
Lockheed Martin Astronautics Documentation


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> 
> 
> Shane, Aandi, Steve, et al.,
> 
> I tried printing the problem file to my hardcopy (PostScript) printer (TI
> microLaser PowerPro (2015.107) 600 dpi, 14 MB RAM). It printed through
> page 18,
> then gave me the "Error: limitcheck; OffendingCommand: FFFFF ..." response
> (printed on what should of been page 19, and it purged the rest of the
> print
> job).
> 
> I could distill to PDF or print hardcopy every page except page 19.
> Printing
> page 19 gave me the error (both in printing hardcopy and in the distilling
> process).
> 
> Page 19 has a PDF graphic on it, similar the other eight PDF graphics (of
> which,
> seven are placed on previous pages). If I removed the PDF graphic from
> page 19,
> all pages (either all twenty-six or just page 19 alone) distilled to PDF
> or
> printed on hardcopy.
> 
> For no logical reason, I decided to change the page 19 PDF graphic
> resolution
> from 1200 dpi to 600 dpi. Now, both page 19 alone and the entire
> twenty-six page
> file distills to PDF or prints hardcopy.
> 
> Soo, my problem is fixed, but, I do not have a clear understanding of the
> root
> cause of the problem other than it had something to do with the 1200 dpi
> PDF
> graphic on page 19.
> 
> Thank you very much for your help.
> 
> Richard Inch
> Technical Documentation Manager
> Leybold Inficon
> East Syracuse, NY 13057-9714
> 
> **************************
> ORIGINAL POST
> 
> Can anyone tell me how to fix the problem shown at the end of this e-mail?
> 
> I'm Win 95, P133 w/64 MB RAM. I print from FrameMaker 5.5.6 through the
> Acrobat
> Distiller 3.0 printer (using the AdobePS4.3 driver) to a Distiller 3.02
> Watched
> Folder. Distiller is set up as suggested by Adobe document 319033
> (Recommendations for High End Settings in Acrobat Distiller 3.02). This
> FrameMaker file is 28 pages in length -- it has nine PDFs linked in as
> graphics,
> and lots of formulas. The PS file is 34,681 KB in size.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Richard Inch
> Technical Documentation Manager
> Leybold Inficon
> East Syracuse, NY 13057-9714
> 
> PROBLEM LOG FILE:
> 
> (Loaded separation procset from prologue.ps)
> (Loaded separation procset from prologue.ps)
> %%[ ProductName: Distiller ]%%
> %%[ Page: 1 ]%%
> %%[ Page: 2 ]%%
> %%[ Page: 3 ]%%
> %%[ Page: 4 ]%%
> %%[ Page: 5 ]%%
> %%[ Page: 6 ]%%
> %%[ Page: 7 ]%%
> %%[ Page: 8 ]%%
> %%[ Page: 9 ]%%
> %%[ Page: 10 ]%%
> %%[ Page: 11 ]%%
> %%[ Page: 12 ]%%
> %%[ Page: 13 ]%%
> %%[ Page: 14 ]%%
> %%[ Page: 15 ]%%
> %%[ Page: 16 ]%%
> %%[ Page: 17 ]%%
> %%[ Page: 18 ]%%
> %%[ Error: limitcheck; OffendingCommand:
> FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
> FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
> 
> ]%%
> 
> Stack:
> -save-
> -save-
> 
> %%[ Flushing: rest of job (to end-of-file) will be ignored ]%%
> %%[ Warning: PostScript error. No PDF file produced. ] %%
> 
> 
> 
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> Apologies for a tangent, but re: the second half of Susan Gertz's post last
> week, did anyone have a recommendation for some software other than Adobe
> Table?
>
> Danine Cozzens
> Pacific Gas and Electric Company
> San Francisco, CA
>
>> ----------
>> From:  Susan Gertz
>>
>> By the way, does anyone know of any really good Mac software for making
>> tables and saving them as good-quality eps files? Adobe Table is a
>> terrible
>> program (in other ways than just this this Distiller problem).
>>

Whoops, meant to reply to this long ago. Must have fallen asleep last night.

If you use QuarkXPress, there is a great xtension which I've used called
Tableworks. http://www.tableworks.com

I did a large catalog once with product lists and price charts using this
software. It was wonderful.

Rich

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Hello Lambert,

> - the coordinates (default user spaces 1/72 inch) entered in the
pdfmarks
> turn out completely wrong (like a) starting in the left upper corner

You might to download Michael Little's "boiler plate" example -
http://www.codecuts.com/codecuts/downloads/pdfmark_ref.zip

This will assist with your coordinate problem.

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For historical reasons we have a pagemaker manual with .gif images


We are now producing pdf version of the manual and want to improve the
image quality.


What file type is found to be the best


We are using Paintshop pro to capture images.
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>since pdfmaker for word97 does not support some important features (such as
>graphic-buttons which serve as navigation) which otherwise would be very
>tediuos to include via acrobat exchange, I intend to include pdfmarks via
>the PRINT field in ms-word97, thus generating navigation bars in a simple
>way.
>

Where do you want the navigation buttons to appear?  At random but fixed
spots in the document or in a constant place, as in the footer or header?
If the latter, skip Word's print fields, read what the eerily brilliant
Herr Merz has to say about creating EPS files containing PDFMarks, combine
your nav button graphics with the EPS/PDFmark and place them in Word's
footers/headers.


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> For historical reasons we have a pagemaker manual with .gif images
> 
> We are now producing pdf version of the manual and want to improve the
> image quality.
>
> What file type is found to be the best
>
> We are using Paintshop pro to capture images.

If Paintshop pro can save your images in tiff format, try that and see if
the quality is acceptable to you.

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Thank you.

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Richard,

Reducing the resolution of the graphic makes perfect sense. When a
limitcheck error is associated with the image operator, usually this means
that the source image data width is too long for the image operator to
handle.

Some LanguageLevel 1 interpreters had as an upper limit for the width of
scan samples to be 3300. Nowadays this limit is much greater in LL2 and 3
products, but the limit (device dependent) can also be exceeded. This is
probably what you were seeing with your file. A very wide high resolution
scan could provoke this problem. Soooo, the fix is to reduce the resolution
or shorten the image.

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>Date: Thu, May 20, 1999, 11:27 AM
>

> Shane, Aandi, Steve, et al.,
>
> I tried printing the problem file to my hardcopy (PostScript) printer (TI
> microLaser PowerPro (2015.107) 600 dpi, 14 MB RAM). It printed through page
18,
> then gave me the "Error: limitcheck; OffendingCommand: FFFFF ..." response
> (printed on what should of been page 19, and it purged the rest of the print
> job).
>
> I could distill to PDF or print hardcopy every page except page 19. Printing
> page 19 gave me the error (both in printing hardcopy and in the distilling
> process).
>
> Page 19 has a PDF graphic on it, similar the other eight PDF graphics (of
which,
> seven are placed on previous pages). If I removed the PDF graphic from page
19,
> all pages (either all twenty-six or just page 19 alone) distilled to PDF or
> printed on hardcopy.
>
> For no logical reason, I decided to change the page 19 PDF graphic resolution
> from 1200 dpi to 600 dpi. Now, both page 19 alone and the entire twenty-six
page
> file distills to PDF or prints hardcopy.
>
> Soo, my problem is fixed, but, I do not have a clear understanding of the root
> cause of the problem other than it had something to do with the 1200 dpi PDF
> graphic on page 19.
>
> Thank you very much for your help.
>
> Richard Inch
> Technical Documentation Manager
> Leybold Inficon
> East Syracuse, NY 13057-9714
>

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Shane Steinman wrote:

I do have two questions... Q#1. When you reduced the "graphic
resolution"
of the PDF file, by which of the following methods did you accomplish
this? ...

a) Opened a raster image contained in the PDF and downsampled.
b) Set the Page Setup or Printer Setup for the Driver to 600 dpi.
c) Changed the Distiller Job Options for image resolution to 600.

RESPONSE

Hmm. The PDF graphic was obtained via TWain32 import (Microtek E6 scanner) into
Photoshop (5.0.2), then Saved As Photoshop PDF. Because the original graphics
were light (old line arts of unknown origin), I increased the contrast and
scanned them at 1200 dpi to get them looking/printing as well as possible given
their condition. I opened the offending PDF graphic file in Photoshop, then
selected Image >> Image Size. In the resulting Image Size dialog I changed the
image size from 1200 dpi to 600 dpi.

END RESPONSE

Q#2. Also, have you tried placing the original 1200 dpi file back into
the same document that you deleted it from? This will sometimes
work if there was an error resulting from the parsing of the
preview data during the initial import. This is not necessarily
a redundant test.

RESPONSE

Yes, I did try this. I got the same error as before. I actually cut it out,
saved to MIF then to FM, then placed the graphic. Still got the error.

What I probably should try is to rescan (recreate) the problem 1200 dpi PDF
graphic, just to see if that changes something which will stop the printing
error. However, the original 1200 dpi PDF graphic opens just fine in Acrobat
Reader and Exchange, and it opens well in Photoshop too. And, since the 600 dpi
version no longer gives me errors, I just think I'll stick with 600 dpi. My
Printer prints at 600 dpi from my PDFs. As I said earlier, I was trying to scan
some old line arts (graphs of data from a manual created long before I came to
this company). The 1200 dpi scan make them look as good as possible, but it
probably is overkill and seems to have pushed some limits past their breaking
point.

Another person (I'm sorry, I forget her name and deleted her e-mail too quickly)
suggested that 600 dpi should be high enough. Indeed, in my case 600 dpi should
work nicely.

Thanks to everyone your help!

Richard Inch
Technical Documentation Manager
Leybold Inficon
East Syracuse, NY 13057-9714



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I am using Adobe Acrobat 3, Word 8 (Office 97), and PDF Maker. In my Word
document, I have the word "User's" in a heading. In the PDF I generate, it
appears properly in the text. However, in the bookmarks, it appears as
"UserTMs" (except the TM is in superscript).  

Any thoughts on this?

TIA

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Lambert, you wrote:

>- the coordinates (default user spaces 1/72 inch) entered in the pdfmarks
>turn out completely wrong (like a) starting in the left upper corner
>instead of left lower corner, b) stunted by factor 5-10) in the pdf-file
>(one page comprising like 5000x7000 pts!!!);

It took me some time to find out that

{PRINT "[ ... pdfmark"} uses coordinates based on current printer resolution;
point of reference is the top left corner of the page

PRINT \p page "{ ... pdfmark"} uses coordinates based on user space; point of
reference is the bottom left corner of the page

You might have a problem there if you have to use the PIC switch.

Reinhard

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I discovered identical behavior when trying to write pdfmarks for output from
FrameMaker. The only way I could fix it is to explicitly put the ANSI code in
the PS code (\047).

In your example, you would have to go into the PS code and change it to
User\047s to create User's.

Any other ideas about fixing this?

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>
> Any thoughts on this?
>
> TIA
>
> Jim LaVelle
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Peter,

One additional item.

Clearly, Adobe does not a force of PostScript Driver police to
go out and harass anyone illegally using the AdobePS drivers. We
do intend though to educate users as to the license restrictions.
There is also no intent whatsoever to legally enjoin anyone who
has a license for use of the driver from creating and distributing
EPS files created by the drivers, regardless of where the
subsequent container document is subsequently printed. (BTW, the
usability of EPS from a driver is not particularly high. Better to
distill the PostScript and export EPS from Acrobat).

Please call me directly at Adobe if you have further concerns.

	- Dov



At 5/21/99 05:04 PM , Dov Isaacs wrote:
>Peter,
>
>All of the Adobe PSPrinter (Mac) and AdobePS (Windows & Mac) drivers
>have had these license restrictions all along, whether users have read
>them or not. Obviously you have not read the licenses before you have
>accepted their conditions.
>
>The PostScript drivers that Microsoft and Apple distribute, developed
>with significant subsidy by Adobe Systems, have no restriction whatsoever.
>These are the PSCRIPT drivers of Windows'9X and Windows 2000 as well as
>the LaserWriter driver of Apple. This should directly answer your concern
>about availability of drivers for production of PostScript for devices
>emulating Adobe PostScript.
>
>No currently shipping Adobe applications require any specific PostScript
>driver, although we certainly cannot as readily support any driver over
>which we were not involved.
>
>InDesign will ship with Adobe drivers and license them for use by InDesign
>users on any printer that can digest such PostScript. There is nothing
>generated by InDesign or the AdobePS drivers that does anything to limit
>itself to use on Adobe PostScript implementations or outside of the
>PostScript language as described in the "red book."
>
>Adobe Acrobat can output to any driver (quality obviously is determined
>by driver and device quality) and has never had, nor is there any intention
>to, limit where its output can be directed.
>
>This should address you concern about continued availability of PostScript
>drivers.
>
>I don't think that the driver issue is product-tying issue. We don't
>sell the AdobePS drivers as a product. These drivers are produced as
>an integral part of our Adobe PostScript licensed products and
>Adobe applications. The cost of the driver development is shouldered by
>part of the cost of OEM licenses for Adobe PostScript and our application
>development. Just as any random user is not free to isolate, reverse 
>engineer the API, and redistribute any internal DLL modules of
>Adobe Photoshop, CorelDRAW, or Quark XPress, a user is also prohibited
>from use or distribution of our AdobePS PostScript drivers independent of
>the printers and applications of which they are an integral part.
>
>Adobe is still very much involved with support for open standards,
>otherwise we would not have heavily subsidized the standard Windows
>and Macintosh PostScript drivers.
>
>	- Dov
>
>
>At 5/21/99 12:19 PM , L. Peter Deutsch wrote:
>>Dov,
>>
>>In a recent posting on pdf@lists.pdfzone.com, you wrote, regarding the
>>just-released AdobePS 4.3 driver:
>>
>>> As with previous versions of AdobePS, the license for this driver, to which
>>> your acceptance is required during the installation process for each
>>> printer instance, limits its to use with printers with Adobe PostScript 
>>> software (i.e., no clones) or with Adobe application programs with which
>>> it is explicitly bundled (i.e., AdobePS 4.3.x will be explicitly required by
>>> and will be bundled with InDesign 1.0 for Windows'98).
>>
>>I understand that the PostScript driver currently bundled with Windows 9x,
>>which I have been told is licensed by Microsoft from Adobe, does not limit
>>its use to specific applications or printers; as far as I know, Adobe
>>applications currently do not check for or require specific non-bundled
>>driver versions.
>>
>>Does Adobe intend to stop allowing Microsoft to distribute unrestricted
>>PostScript drivers?
>>
>>In my opinion, locking Windows users to specific driver versions that
>>prohibit use of the output with non-Adobe PostScript implementations would
>>strongly tend to destroy PostScript as an open standard (that is, one which
>>can usefully be implemented freely), since Windows has the overwhelming
>>share of the desktop market and for most Windows users switching to another
>>environment is effectively impossible.
>>
>>Assuming that the driver doesn't disable the Windows "print to file" or
>>printer output redirection capabilities, is it Adobe's intention that anyone
>>who produces PostScript output to a file becomes responsible for enforcing
>>the "Adobe implementations only" restriction on anyone who may print that
>>file in the future?  I believe this would tend to destroy PostScript as an
>>open standard not only for printing but as an archiving, transmission, and
>>publishing format as well.  What about EPS files?  Is the restriction
>>intended to be binding on anyone who incorporates an EPS file produced by
>>the driver into any future document?  What about PDF files produced by
>>running such PostScript files through Acrobat Distiller?  For that matter,
>>what about the output of other programs that convert PostScript to other
>>formats?  I have trouble seeing how such a restriction can be legally
>>enforceable if "print to file" is allowed at all.
>>
>>Does Adobe intend to create similar limitations on PostScript output from
>>the Mac?
>>
>>Does Adobe intend to create similar restrictions around its PDF-generating
>>software?
>>
>>Has Adobe investigated or considered the anti-trust issues associated with
>>the above, specifically with respect to "tying"?
>>
>>In my opinion, Adobe's commitment to meaningfully open standards has set a
>>great example for the industry and has played a major role in the growth of
>>the desktop publishing industry and Adobe's success in that industry.  I
>>would be very sad to see Adobe move away from this commitment.
>>
>>				Sincerely,
>>
>>L. Peter Deutsch         |       Aladdin Enterprises :::: ghost@aladdin.com
>>203 Santa Margarita Ave. | tel. +1-650-322-0103 (AM only); fax +1-650-322-1734
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 i am an undergraduate doing some research on watermarking..
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pdf? if yes...what should be the correct way to go about doing i?
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>  i am an undergraduate doing some research on watermarking..
> can anybody tell me whether if direct pixel manipulation is 
> possible in
> pdf? if yes...what should be the correct way to go about doing i?
> thnx

Direct pixel manipulation of what? 
The display device?
The answer to that is no.

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wat I mean is to manipulate each pixel in a pdf document,for eg to change
the brightness of each pixel. Is no direct way, is there any indirect ways
which anyone can suggest me?
thnx


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> > possible in
> > pdf? if yes...what should be the correct way to go about doing i?
> > thnx
> 
> Direct pixel manipulation of what? 
> The display device?
> The answer to that is no.
> 
> Aandi
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> wat I mean is to manipulate each pixel in a pdf document,for eg to change
> the brightness of each pixel. Is no direct way, is there any indirect ways
> which anyone can suggest me?
> thnx

Open it in Photoshop.

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> wat I mean is to manipulate each pixel in a pdf document,for 
> eg to change
> the brightness of each pixel. Is no direct way, is there any 
> indirect ways which anyone can suggest me?

PDF files are not made of pixels.

They contain a mixture of text, lines, shapes, and images.

The images have pixels, but they may be scaled or sampled to
fit the final resolution, and each image may have a different
resolution.

So, this is a meaningless question, except in the very special
case where a PDF file happens to contain just one image, and
nothing else. Acrobat 4.0 can run Photoshop 5.0 to edit the
individual images in a file, so in this case, there is an
answer.


Aandi

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PDF Newsgroup,

At work, we use Microsoft Excel to do monthly financial reports. A page
tab is one monthly report. Each report are presented the same way, but
we have to cumulate sums manually for each month. Currently, we are
trying to have links from one page tab/monthly report to another, so to
cumulate amounts, found in each cells, automatically: sum.

Could Acrobat 3.01 or 4.0 do this job more easily?

Thanks in advance for reply,

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I ve just installed the latest ps driver for NT from the Acrobat 4 Cd
and I cant seem to get the custom page size option to work in order to
print from word to distiller.

Does anybody know if this available (it is under win 95) or if not is
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Sounds like a traditional database application might be what you're looking
for: create a form and/or report in Access.

AcroForms do allow some simple math but if this is something Excel can't
handle there's no way an Acrobat Form is going to be much help.



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> trying to have links from one page tab/monthly report to another, so to
> cumulate amounts, found in each cells, automatically: sum.
>
> Could Acrobat 3.01 or 4.0 do this job more easily?
>
> Thanks in advance for reply,
>
> Robert Richard.
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>At work, we use Microsoft Excel to do monthly financial reports. A page
>tab is one monthly report. Each report are presented the same way, but
>we have to cumulate sums manually for each month. Currently, we are
>trying to have links from one page tab/monthly report to another, so to
>cumulate amounts, found in each cells, automatically: sum.
>
>Could Acrobat 3.01 or 4.0 do this job more easily?
>

You *might* be able to bludgeon Acrobat into doing this with a tremendous
amount of difficulty, whereas Excel could probably do it in a few
mouseclicks automatically for you.

I'd look for an Excel-specific answer on, e.g., msnews.microsoft.com, one
of the Excel newsgroups.


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The two biggest offenders, in terms of frequency of the occurrence, are PDF
files and e-mail links. 

>As for unexpected actions when you click on a link, PDFs shouldn't be
>singled-out for this complaint; equal and worse problems are caused by the
>many "unmarked" links that download Java applets, or start new copies of
>your browser, or play huge multimedia clips, etc. 
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> At work, we use Microsoft Excel to do monthly financial reports. A page
> tab is one monthly report. Each report are presented the same way, but
> we have to cumulate sums manually for each month. Currently, we are
> trying to have links from one page tab/monthly report to another, so to
> cumulate amounts, found in each cells, automatically: sum.
>
> Could Acrobat 3.01 or 4.0 do this job more easily?
>
> Thanks in advance for reply,
>
> Robert Richard.

It's easy in Excel to calculate a total on one page tab from data on other
page tabs by using standard Excel formulas.

Acrobat really wasn't made for this purpose.

However, if you want to distribute copies of your reports to others who
don't have Excel, PDF would be a great way to handle this function.

Rich

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Has anyone tried using the Acrobat Reader Ver. 4.0 "Find" function? 

Everytime I try to use it, I find only occaisional occurences of text
(Distilled from Framemaker 5.5 and Microsoft Word 97 using Acrobat ver. 3.0)
but not all occurences.

For example, the word "Hello" may actually occur in ten locations on a page,
but Reader/Find finds only one or two at random locations on the page

Thanks,

Andrew

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Hau Koh Foo wrote:
>  i am an undergraduate doing some research on watermarking..
> can anybody tell me whether if direct pixel manipulation is possible in
> pdf? if yes...what should be the correct way to go about doing i?

Since PostScript 3 will allow for transparent states, it is
conceivable that, with Acrobat 4 and an appropriate plug-in,
you can merge an original PDF with one containing a watermark
logo and achieve the desired effect. If I remember correctly,
there are one or two plug-ins that can make PDF "sandwiches"
- or were they distinct applications?.

I seem to recall that the PDF 1.3 specification will allow
the preservation of these transparency traits when the 
"merged/flattened" PDF is read back into Acrobat 4.0 .

You cannot, however, paint transparently within Acrobat. This
must be accomplished through a separate app or plug-in. To this
point, I haven't heard of any Adobe initiative to provide such
functionality in future Acrobat versions - but, you never get
what you want unless you ask! 

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Problem could be that some of the fonts used were TrueType. Unless
fonts used in the original Word or FrameMaker docs were Type 1,
Acrobat 3.0x cannot search on TrueType text. If you create the
PostScript with AdobePS 4.3 (Windows'9X) and distill with Acrobat 4
Distiller, this problem goes away.

	- Dov


At 5/23/99 06:59 AM , Andrew Deutsch wrote:
>
>Has anyone tried using the Acrobat Reader Ver. 4.0 "Find" function? 
>
>Everytime I try to use it, I find only occaisional occurences of text
>(Distilled from Framemaker 5.5 and Microsoft Word 97 using Acrobat ver. 3.0)
>but not all occurences.
>
>For example, the word "Hello" may actually occur in ten locations on a page,
>but Reader/Find finds only one or two at random locations on the page
>
>Thanks,
>
>Andrew
>
>andeutsc@lucent.com
>
>Andrew Deutsch,
>Technical Copywriter
>Lucent Technologies Networks Ltd.
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Dov,

In a recent posting on pdf@lists.pdfzone.com, you wrote, regarding the
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> As with previous versions of AdobePS, the license for this driver, to which
> your acceptance is required during the installation process for each
> printer instance, limits its to use with printers with Adobe PostScript 
> software (i.e., no clones) or with Adobe application programs with which
> it is explicitly bundled (i.e., AdobePS 4.3.x will be explicitly required by
> and will be bundled with InDesign 1.0 for Windows'98).

I understand that the PostScript driver currently bundled with Windows 9x,
which I have been told is licensed by Microsoft from Adobe, does not limit
its use to specific applications or printers; as far as I know, Adobe
applications currently do not check for or require specific non-bundled
driver versions.

Does Adobe intend to stop allowing Microsoft to distribute unrestricted
PostScript drivers?

In my opinion, locking Windows users to specific driver versions that
prohibit use of the output with non-Adobe PostScript implementations would
strongly tend to destroy PostScript as an open standard (that is, one which
can usefully be implemented freely), since Windows has the overwhelming
share of the desktop market and for most Windows users switching to another
environment is effectively impossible.

Assuming that the driver doesn't disable the Windows "print to file" or
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who produces PostScript output to a file becomes responsible for enforcing
the "Adobe implementations only" restriction on anyone who may print that
file in the future?  I believe this would tend to destroy PostScript as an
open standard not only for printing but as an archiving, transmission, and
publishing format as well.  What about EPS files?  Is the restriction
intended to be binding on anyone who incorporates an EPS file produced by
the driver into any future document?  What about PDF files produced by
running such PostScript files through Acrobat Distiller?  For that matter,
what about the output of other programs that convert PostScript to other
formats?  I have trouble seeing how such a restriction can be legally
enforceable if "print to file" is allowed at all.

Does Adobe intend to create similar limitations on PostScript output from
the Mac?

Does Adobe intend to create similar restrictions around its PDF-generating
software?

Has Adobe investigated or considered the anti-trust issues associated with
the above, specifically with respect to "tying"?

In my opinion, Adobe's commitment to meaningfully open standards has set a
great example for the industry and has played a major role in the growth of
the desktop publishing industry and Adobe's success in that industry.  I
would be very sad to see Adobe move away from this commitment.

				Sincerely,

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Peter,

All of the Adobe PSPrinter (Mac) and AdobePS (Windows & Mac) drivers
have had these license restrictions all along, whether users have read
them or not. Obviously you have not read the licenses before you have
accepted their conditions.

The PostScript drivers that Microsoft and Apple distribute, developed
with significant subsidy by Adobe Systems, have no restriction whatsoever.
These are the PSCRIPT drivers of Windows'9X and Windows 2000 as well as
the LaserWriter driver of Apple. This should directly answer your concern
about availability of drivers for production of PostScript for devices
emulating Adobe PostScript.

No currently shipping Adobe applications require any specific PostScript
driver, although we certainly cannot as readily support any driver over
which we were not involved.

InDesign will ship with Adobe drivers and license them for use by InDesign
users on any printer that can digest such PostScript. There is nothing
generated by InDesign or the AdobePS drivers that does anything to limit
itself to use on Adobe PostScript implementations or outside of the
PostScript language as described in the "red book."

Adobe Acrobat can output to any driver (quality obviously is determined
by driver and device quality) and has never had, nor is there any intention
to, limit where its output can be directed.

This should address you concern about continued availability of PostScript
drivers.

I don't think that the driver issue is product-tying issue. We don't
sell the AdobePS drivers as a product. These drivers are produced as
an integral part of our Adobe PostScript licensed products and
Adobe applications. The cost of the driver development is shouldered by
part of the cost of OEM licenses for Adobe PostScript and our application
development. Just as any random user is not free to isolate, reverse 
engineer the API, and redistribute any internal DLL modules of
Adobe Photoshop, CorelDRAW, or Quark XPress, a user is also prohibited
from use or distribution of our AdobePS PostScript drivers independent of
the printers and applications of which they are an integral part.

Adobe is still very much involved with support for open standards,
otherwise we would not have heavily subsidized the standard Windows
and Macintosh PostScript drivers.

	- Dov


At 5/21/99 12:19 PM , L. Peter Deutsch wrote:
>Dov,
>
>In a recent posting on pdf@lists.pdfzone.com, you wrote, regarding the
>just-released AdobePS 4.3 driver:
>
>> As with previous versions of AdobePS, the license for this driver, to which
>> your acceptance is required during the installation process for each
>> printer instance, limits its to use with printers with Adobe PostScript 
>> software (i.e., no clones) or with Adobe application programs with which
>> it is explicitly bundled (i.e., AdobePS 4.3.x will be explicitly required by
>> and will be bundled with InDesign 1.0 for Windows'98).
>
>I understand that the PostScript driver currently bundled with Windows 9x,
>which I have been told is licensed by Microsoft from Adobe, does not limit
>its use to specific applications or printers; as far as I know, Adobe
>applications currently do not check for or require specific non-bundled
>driver versions.
>
>Does Adobe intend to stop allowing Microsoft to distribute unrestricted
>PostScript drivers?
>
>In my opinion, locking Windows users to specific driver versions that
>prohibit use of the output with non-Adobe PostScript implementations would
>strongly tend to destroy PostScript as an open standard (that is, one which
>can usefully be implemented freely), since Windows has the overwhelming
>share of the desktop market and for most Windows users switching to another
>environment is effectively impossible.
>
>Assuming that the driver doesn't disable the Windows "print to file" or
>printer output redirection capabilities, is it Adobe's intention that anyone
>who produces PostScript output to a file becomes responsible for enforcing
>the "Adobe implementations only" restriction on anyone who may print that
>file in the future?  I believe this would tend to destroy PostScript as an
>open standard not only for printing but as an archiving, transmission, and
>publishing format as well.  What about EPS files?  Is the restriction
>intended to be binding on anyone who incorporates an EPS file produced by
>the driver into any future document?  What about PDF files produced by
>running such PostScript files through Acrobat Distiller?  For that matter,
>what about the output of other programs that convert PostScript to other
>formats?  I have trouble seeing how such a restriction can be legally
>enforceable if "print to file" is allowed at all.
>
>Does Adobe intend to create similar limitations on PostScript output from
>the Mac?
>
>Does Adobe intend to create similar restrictions around its PDF-generating
>software?
>
>Has Adobe investigated or considered the anti-trust issues associated with
>the above, specifically with respect to "tying"?
>
>In my opinion, Adobe's commitment to meaningfully open standards has set a
>great example for the industry and has played a major role in the growth of
>the desktop publishing industry and Adobe's success in that industry.  I
>would be very sad to see Adobe move away from this commitment.
>
>				Sincerely,
>
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Paul- I have never found an NT ppd that allows a bleed to the page edge, and
I hope someone responds that they have one.  I have spoken with HP,
Tektronix, and Microsoft about this 3 time in the last 12 months... no
solution they knew of... but there's got to be a one out there?!  Worse case
you can use the PDF writer with no margins.

J

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I ve just installed the latest ps driver for NT from the Acrobat 4 Cd
and I cant seem to get the custom page size option to work in order to
print from word to distiller.

Does anybody know if this available (it is under win 95) or if not is
anyone aware of an alternative driver

Thanks

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Alternatively, you can create a font substitution table for the printer
you're using to generate the ps file for the Distiller. Substitute the
printer's built-in postscript fonts for the TT fonts (assuming that you have
TT fonts that are similar to Type 1; e.g., Arial --> Helvetica, Zapf
Calligraphic --> Palatino). If you can make this type of substitution, then
the PDFs are searchable. Note that not all substitutions work well (e.g.,
Helvetica doesn't substitute well for Futura).

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Problem could be that some of the fonts used were TrueType. Unless
fonts used in the original Word or FrameMaker docs were Type 1,
Acrobat 3.0x cannot search on TrueType text. If you create the
PostScript with AdobePS 4.3 (Windows'9X) and distill with Acrobat 4
Distiller, this problem goes away.

	- Dov


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>Has anyone tried using the Acrobat Reader Ver. 4.0 "Find" function? 
>
>Everytime I try to use it, I find only occaisional occurences of text
>(Distilled from Framemaker 5.5 and Microsoft Word 97 using Acrobat ver.
3.0)
>but not all occurences.
>
>For example, the word "Hello" may actually occur in ten locations on a
page,
>but Reader/Find finds only one or two at random locations on the page
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According to some of the Xerox reps. that I spoke with at the On Demand
Digital Printing & Publishing Conference in New York City a couple of weeks
ago, sometime this summer a Xerox DocuTech 6135 upgrade will be available
that will allow the machines to print PDF files directly. (That is - you
won't have to generate PostScript from the PDFs in order to print them.)

I don't know how much support (if any) the upgrade offers for PJTF.

- Cynthia Leslie  

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Paul- I have never found an NT ppd that allows a bleed to the page edge, and
I hope someone responds that they have one.  I have spoken with HP,
Tektronix, and Microsoft about this 3 time in the last 12 months... no
solution they knew of... but there's got to be a one out there?!  Worse case
you can use the PDF writer with no margins.

J

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I ve just installed the latest ps driver for NT from the Acrobat 4 Cd
and I cant seem to get the custom page size option to work in order to
print from word to distiller.

Does anybody know if this available (it is under win 95) or if not is
anyone aware of an alternative driver

Thanks

Paul


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At 07:42 AM 5/22/1999 +0100, Prof Brian D Ripley wrote:
>

>So far all bar using postscript() seems OK for me. Further, distilling
>postscript files produced by Unix postscript() is correct. On my examples
>produced by Windows postscript, I do get output but it is far too large and
>is cropped to the stated bounding box.  This does not surprise me, and I do
>not think it is Distiller's fault. The postscript produced by postscript()
>on Windows is badly behaved, using operators that are not allowed in EPS
>and at best inadvisable in application-generated (as distinct from device
>manager) code. I am assuming from your comments that Distller 3.0x
>did cope with this: if Adobe have improved Distiller on typical .ps
>and broken it on this one, my sympathy is with them, but you could try
>sending them an example which used to work and does not.
>
>Yet another reason to scream at MathSoft DAPD: PLEASE get around to
>implementing the AT&T postscript() function on Windows.
>

>From a quick perusal of the Adobe support forums, there *is* a problem with
Distiller in 4.0 (Windows 95/NT platforms).  People are reporting a whole
slew of problems with 4.0 that weren't present in 3.0.  While Mathsoft's
implementation of windows postscript may be bollixed up (or outdated, or
whatever), this particular problem seems to be "owned" by Adobe.

I went back to 3.01 for now and will wait for Adobe to fix Distiller 4.0.
(BTW, I looked at the compression defaults in 3.01 and they are quite
different from 4.0.  In 4.0, the default optimizations are all "automatic",
while in 3.01 the compression defaults are specified.  I could make a list
of the default settings in 3.01, and then manually set them all in 4.0 but
unfortunately 3 and 4 cannot coexist on the same machine.  It is way too
time consuming to try to uninstall 3.01, reinstall 4.0, change all the
default settings (there are about half a dozen settings that appear to be
different), and then test them.  I'll try this when I have more time.

  



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Does anyone know how to get an embedded type 1 font to "NOT" be substituted
when the font is not available on the user's computer?

Specifically "Futura".

PDF support docs states that a type 1 font using ISO Latin character sets
will be automatically used to create a substitute face if the font is not
available. But type 1 fonts without the ISO Latin character sets will be
embedded and display correctly whether or not the face is available on the
computer.

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and here is a followup to the earlier posting, which indicates a problem
in S rather than Acrobat...

Cheerio, Rick

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Thanks to Brian Ripley and a very helpful Adobe volunteer, I was able to
locate the problem with Adobe Acrobat 4.0 (full version) and Splus (as well
as several others).

For those of you who want to use Adobe 4.0 and code that involves the
postscript() function (e.g. rpart), I enclose the text of the message from
the Adobe volunteer.

"Ths was an interesting and challenging problem.

To cut a long story short, the DSC comments in the file 
are wrong. Specifically, the Prologue changes the 
graphics state, which is forbidden.
 
You can get the expected results either by switching 
off "process DSC comments" in Distiller's job options 
or by correcting the DSC:

If you reverse the order of
I 
%%EndPrologue

to 

%%EndPrologue 
I

it is sufficient.  "


I've tried both ways and both work to bring the postscript() generated code
back to normality (i.e. the output appears as it should, and it is no
longer enlarged to 800% and then cropped to essentially no comment).

Please MATHSOFT,  can you update the postscript() code in Windows Splus to
conformance with Adobe specifications.


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> Does anyone know how to get an embedded type 1 font to "NOT" 
> be substituted
> when the font is not available on the user's computer?
> 
> Specifically "Futura".
> 
> PDF support docs states that a type 1 font using ISO Latin 
> character sets
> will be automatically used to create a substitute face if the 
> font is not
> available. 

That only happens if the font is not embedded.
Is that what you mean? You just need to make sure it's embedded.

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It is embedded. But it still does it if you turn off the font or take it to
a machine with out the font.

This is the blurb from Adobe Suppport:


How Acrobat Distiller and PDF Writer Use Fonts
When Acrobat Distiller and PDF Writer convert a document to PDF, they take
into account each type of font used in the
document. They handle fonts by doing one or more of the following:

Adding a Description of the Font
Acrobat Distiller and PDF Writer add a description of Type 1 fonts that use
the ISO Latin 1 character set. If you then open the
PDF file on a computer that has the fonts installed, Adobe Type Manager
(ATM) uses that installed fonts to display and print
the PDF file. If the font isn't installed, ATM uses the font description to
create a substitute font that resembles the original font.

Embedding the Font
Acrobat Distiller and PDF Writer embed Type 1 fonts that don't use the ISO
Latin 1 character set (such as symbol or expert
characters). They also embed Type 3 fonts. A font that is embedded in a PDF
file is always available, whether or not it's
installed on the system.




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>> Does anyone know how to get an embedded type 1 font to "NOT"
>> be substituted
>> when the font is not available on the user's computer?
>>
>> Specifically "Futura".
>>
>> PDF support docs states that a type 1 font using ISO Latin
>> character sets
>> will be automatically used to create a substitute face if the
>> font is not
>> available.
>
>That only happens if the font is not embedded.
>Is that what you mean? You just need to make sure it's embedded.
>
>Aandi
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> It is embedded. But it still does it if you turn off the font or take it to
> a machine with out the font.

Is the font subset to 100%?

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It was 35%..  I tried it at 100% and it didn't work either.




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> It is embedded. But it still does it if you turn off the font 
> or take it to
> a machine with out the font.

No, that is not the intention at all.

If the font is embedded, but a font by the same name is
installed, Acrobat 3.0 will use that "same name" font.

If the font is embedded, and a font by the same name
is NOT installed, the EMBEDDED font is used for display.
That's what it's for - otherwise given your reasoning
embedding would be a useless activity for such fonts.

If the font is neither embedded, nor installed, then
a substitute is made.

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I want to control PDFMaker from Word 97.  I want to create a MAcro that
will automatically convert a large group of Word documents to PDF.  Has
anyone created such a macro.  Please provide information.  I have read on
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Please forgive my ignorance on this subject but I am new to this list as
well as to Acrobat Exchange.  I am trying to produce PDF documents in
which I am using some screen shots.  when I generate PDF's using
distiller 4.0 the screen shots appear a  bit fuzzy when viewed in  Adobe
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Similarly when printing they are sort of okay when printed from Acrobat
reader 4.0 but come out as a big mess when printed from Acrobat reader
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I would appreciate if I could get some help on this issue. I want to be
able to view (Acrobat Reader 3 and 4)and print the screen shots without
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> At work, we use Microsoft Excel to do monthly financial reports. A page
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> we have to cumulate sums manually for each month. Currently, we are
> trying to have links from one page tab/monthly report to another, so to
> cumulate amounts, found in each cells, automatically: sum.
> 

At my work we use an Acrobat Form for registration of kilometers. The
amount 
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Hi Richard,

rinch@inficon.com wrote:
> Hmm. The PDF graphic was obtained via TWain32 import (Microtek E6 scanner) into
> Photoshop (5.0.2), then Saved As Photoshop PDF. Because the original graphics
> were light (old line arts of unknown origin), I increased the contrast and
> scanned them at 1200 dpi to get them looking/printing as well as possible given
> their condition. I opened the offending PDF graphic file in Photoshop, then
> selected Image >> Image Size. In the resulting Image Size dialog I changed the
> image size from 1200 dpi to 600 dpi.

I partly concur with Todd from Acquired Knowledge on this one -

Todd Donahue wrote:
>>Reducing the resolution of the graphic makes perfect sense. When a
>>limitcheck error is associated with the image operator, usually this means
>>that the source image data width is too long for the image operator to
>>handle.
>>Some LanguageLevel 1 interpreters had as an upper limit for the width of
>>scan samples to be 3300. Nowadays this limit is much greater in LL2 and 3
>>products, but the limit (device dependent) can also be exceeded. This is
>>probably what you were seeing with your file. A very wide high resolution
>>scan could provoke this problem. Soooo, the fix is to reduce the resolution
>>or shorten the image.

Line-art scans are one instance where very high resolution files
can be contained in a PDF file. Another would be CopyDot scans.
Still another, TIFF/IT files in a PDF "envelope". Higher resolution
images should usually be expected to print correctly from high
end systems - imagesetters, platesetters, etc. This could push
a Level One RIP over the edge, but it doesn't explain the distilling 
error. Distiller sure ain't Level One! Even if your default Job
Options were set to Acrobat 2.1 compatibility, this would still
put you in a Level 2 ballpark. The distilling error may be 
circumvented by additional RAM, but as with all things, there are
no guarantees.


>> Q#2. Also, have you tried placing the original 1200 dpi file back into
>> the same document that you deleted it from? This will sometimes
>> work if there was an error resulting from the parsing of the
>> preview data during the initial import. This is not necessarily
>> a redundant test.
 
> Yes, I did try this. I got the same error as before. I actually cut it out,
> saved to MIF then to FM, then placed the graphic. Still got the error.

Just wanted to make sure that it wasn't an original import error.
You COULD try the following... Save the file to TIF with LZW compression
out of Photoshop, then shut off the bitmap compression (probably
CCITT Group 4) in Distiller before distilling the offending page.
I sometimes pre-"squish" images in Photoshop and turn off certain
Compression Options if I don't like their "look" - or if they 
error out.

> Another person (I'm sorry, I forget her name and deleted her e-mail too quickly)
> suggested that 600 dpi should be high enough. Indeed, in my case 600 dpi should
> work nicely.

Acrobat isn't limited to 600 dpi. That would be bad news for
people in prepress, indeed! The default 600 dpi setting that
appears in your PPD is not an indication of an internal limit 
within PDF, it's just the default - since that is now the
common resolution for most laser printers. It is, I believe,
also a value that is referenced by Distiller when converting
the file to PDF. The resolution setting may be important to
determine when chewing up complex elements since Distiller
may have to make "judgements" about the potential future
RIP'ing of this file. When processing complex graphics in 
PostScript, it is not uncommon to vary the "flatness" of 
curved segments to reduce the amount of math required to
plot a path. While a flatness operator may, or may not, be 
involved in Distiller's evaluation and crunching of the file,
the resolution may still be a mitigating factor in determining
the number of bite-sized chunks to which the file elements
must be reduced. 

Appreciate any input from Adobe on this.

Best regards,

Shane

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Just to comment on my own posting before Michael Jahn or
Lydia Varmazis hit me on the back of the head...

Shane Steinman wrote:
> When processing complex graphics in
> PostScript, it is not uncommon to vary the "flatness" of
> curved segments to reduce the amount of math required to
> plot a path. While a flatness operator may, or may not, be
> involved in Distiller's evaluation and crunching of the file,
> the resolution may still be a mitigating factor in determining
> the number of bite-sized chunks to which the file elements
> must be reduced.

I do not intend to imply that PDF is resolution dependent,
only that provisions may be in place to "anticipate" the
application of such resolutions downstream.

Thanks,

Shane

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> Please forgive my ignorance on this subject but I am new to this list as
> well as to Acrobat Exchange.  I am trying to produce PDF documents in
> which I am using some screen shots.  when I generate PDF's using
> distiller 4.0 the screen shots appear a  bit fuzzy when viewed in  Adobe
> Acrobat reader version 4 and version 3 but they are view able.
> Similarly when printing they are sort of okay when printed from Acrobat
> reader 4.0 but come out as a big mess when printed from Acrobat reader
> 3.0. F.Y.I. I am using Acrobat Exchange 4.0.
>
> I would appreciate if I could get some help on this issue. I want to be
> able to view (Acrobat Reader 3 and 4)and print the screen shots without
> any quality loss.
>
> Thanks
>
> - Ajmal Samuel
>
> ajmal@ima.com

Make sure your compression settings are zip 8-bit, rather than any sort of
jpeg. Jpeg will cause extreme degradation of quality with screen captures.

Rich

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How are you producing the PostScript file that you Distill?

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Please forgive my ignorance on this subject but I am new to this list as
well as to Acrobat Exchange.  I am trying to produce PDF documents in
which I am using some screen shots.  when I generate PDF's using
distiller 4.0 the screen shots appear a  bit fuzzy when viewed in  Adobe
Acrobat reader version 4 and version 3 but they are view able.
Similarly when printing they are sort of okay when printed from Acrobat
reader 4.0 but come out as a big mess when printed from Acrobat reader
3.0. F.Y.I. I am using Acrobat Exchange 4.0.

I would appreciate if I could get some help on this issue. I want to be
able to view (Acrobat Reader 3 and 4)and print the screen shots without
any quality loss.

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I work in the prepress dept of a commercial printer. We've been
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several potential advantages to PDF, including the retention of formatting
and fonts across platforms.

However, I cannot figure out how to make a PDF "bleed" (extend the printing
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I can tell, Acrobat stops printing at the page boundaries (unlike Quark or
Pagemaker, which allow objects to spill past the page boundaries). Is there
any way to specify a bleed area in a PDF? ...and, if so, can that bleed
area be included in eps files that are created from the PDFs (in Acrobat 4)?

I'm new to this list, so please forgive me if you've already addressed my
questions.

Thanks

Stuart Strong
Merit Graphics
Chicago

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> However, I cannot figure out how to make a PDF "bleed" (extend the printing
> beyond the page boundaries). Many of our jobs require bleed, and from what
> I can tell, Acrobat stops printing at the page boundaries (unlike Quark or
> Pagemaker, which allow objects to spill past the page boundaries). Is there
> any way to specify a bleed area in a PDF? ...and, if so, can that bleed
> area be included in eps files that are created from the PDFs (in Acrobat 4)?

> Stuart Strong
> Merit Graphics
> Chicago
>
> Stuart Strong
> Merit Graphics, 1642 N. Besly Ct, Chicago, IL 60622
> Phone: 773-252-6666   Fax: 773-252-2294
>

Bleeds are easy to accomplish in PDF files.

Whether you are printing to postscript (from Quark, Pagemaker, etc.), or
doing the Distiller Assistant thing, you need to check or complete the
appropriate selections in the print dialog box of your applications:

i.e. where is asks for bleeds, include at least 1/8"
check the box that asks for crops and registration marks, and you get crop
marks and registration marks
etc.

In Quark, for example, where it ask for page size, I add 1" both
horizontally and vertically, to allow for the crops and bleeds.

Rich

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Hi,
This is the problem:

Have a large number of PDF files
Have used the info fields title and subject for specific info
Users do not learn how to search using acrobat built in search and are
missing oppurtunities with the data.

1) Want to create a search form where the user enters search word and
chooses from a number of radio buttons. 
The radio button choises makes the entry in the title and subject search
fields.
2) Want to have the search result as a document where title and subject is
shown and are links to the document where the hit is.

If possible I do not want to use plug in, since there are lots of users.

Any ideas? I tried this a couple of years ago, but never succeded, and now
it's time again maybe using javascript instead?

If not possible, is it possible to change preferences for search when
opening a document? 

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Rich Sprague wrote:
> Whether you are printing to postscript (from Quark, Pagemaker, etc.), or
> doing the Distiller Assistant thing, you need to check or complete the
> appropriate selections in the print dialog box of your applications:
> 
> i.e. where is asks for bleeds, include at least 1/8"
> check the box that asks for crops and registration marks, and you get crop
> marks and registration marks
> etc.
> 
> In Quark, for example, where it ask for page size, I add 1" both
> horizontally and vertically, to allow for the crops and bleeds.

Hi Rich,

Just to add to your comments, and expand the boundaries of the
topic for those wishing to automate EPS/PDF import procedures...

Keep in mind that every program will have different offsets
for the measurement between the trim (identified by the program's
own crop marks) and the clip edge (delineated by the top left
corner of the page). This is due to the width of the crops from
program to program. However, to make matters more interesting,
Quark XPress allows this attribute to be user-definable via
the preference for "Reg. Marks Offset".

Also, as if you didn't have enough variables in the mix, you
must remember that you are switching from an application-based
construct to a PostScript-based one - which means that your offsets
are now determined by the lower-left corner of the viewable
area (not the upper-left as is typical in applications).

It's not that hard to overcome. It's just that there are other
variables to consider if you want to automate the process of
handling these files. EPS files exported from Acrobat may give
you the most flexibility since you can use existing utilities
to add bleed to an EPS. Also, depending upon your workflow,
you may already own these utilities. I seem to recall that you
can already do this with several systems - including Agfa's
Apogee workflow.

Variables. Isolate and eliminate!
Or, isolate and standardize a 
method for dealing with them.


Cheers,

Shane

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Members of various Acrobat, FrameMaker,
& Computer-to-Plate Pressroom lists:

Thanks to all of you who have responded on-list and off with
questions, problems, suggestions, etc. related to AdobePS 4.3.

Based on your feedback, I would add the following caveat with
regards to this driver:

AdobePS 4.3 should NOT be used if your workflows include the
production of PDF files via Acrobat Distiller 3.0x AND if you
use any TrueType fonts. The "readme" for the driver states that
TrueType fonts may be used if you have the driver set to 
"send as outlines" in lieu of "send as Type 42". This workaround
significantly degrades text output at small point sizes.
Furthermore, there appears to be a problem, possibly in Acrobat 3,
in which such "send as outlines" TrueType fonts lose display on
the screen. Thus, if you are continuing to use Acrobat 3.0x
Distiller and any TrueType fonts, you should continue to use the
AdobePS 4.2.x driver, where x >= 4. If and when you upgrade to
Acrobat 4, AdobePS 4.3 will be "safe" to use and provide
the TrueType text searchability features that have been AWOL so
long.

As a result of the feedback, I have posted five problem reports
against the driver, primarily associated with the contents of the
"readme" file, the fact that the "readme" file is only accessible
after you've completed the installation, the missing glyph
display problem, etc.

On behalf Adobe, I apologize for any inconvenience these problems
have caused.

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You might want to check with Aandi Inston at Quite Software. Quite Software
sells an Acrobat plug-in called "Quite Imposing Plus" which might solve this
problem for you. Aandi's e-mail address is:

 quite@dial.pipex.com

- Cynthia Leslie

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I work in the prepress dept of a commercial printer. We've been
experimenting with using PDF's in our workflow. Since we receive files from
a myriad of customers on both Macintosh and Windows machines, there are
several potential advantages to PDF, including the retention of formatting
and fonts across platforms.

However, I cannot figure out how to make a PDF "bleed" (extend the printing
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any way to specify a bleed area in a PDF? ...and, if so, can that bleed
area be included in eps files that are created from the PDFs (in Acrobat 4)?

I'm new to this list, so please forgive me if you've already addressed my
questions.

Thanks

Stuart Strong
Merit Graphics
Chicago

Stuart Strong
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Are there any Enterprise level document archiveing solutions that use .pdf
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I have looked at systems that revolve arounf .tif - was not that impressed.

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Acrobat Reader and Reader+Search CD Update

Acrobat Reader 4.0 CD will be available for ordering in mid to late July
1999. It will contain Acrobat Reader for all supported languages and
Acrobat Reader with Search for the languages that currently have Search
support, for Windows, Macintosh and Unix systems. The CD-ROM will include
Adobe's Asian Font Pack which will allow documents created in Japanese,
Chinese and Korean to be viewed on Roman language systems. Pricing and
availability will be announced at a later date.

All Acrobat Readers are posted to the Adobe web site as they become
available (as the localizations are completed). Acrobat Reader with Search
in English will be posted to the Adobe web site by mid-June, at
http://www.adobe.com/prodindex/acrobat/readstep.html , and the localized
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>Please forgive my ignorance on this subject but I am new to this list
as

>well as to Acrobat Exchange.  I am trying to produce PDF documents in

>which I am using some screen shots.  when I generate PDF's using

>distiller 4.0 the screen shots appear a  bit fuzzy when viewed in 
Adobe

>Acrobat reader version 4 and version 3 but they are view able.


The basic idea in creating PDFs with screen shots is to get enough of the
right pixels into the PDF file, then use a viewer/printer that shows all
these pixels. In the past, screen shots have been problematic because:

- PDF creation software such as Distiller can easily be configured to
resample to 72 DPI, which is too few pixels per inch for screen shots;
don't go below about 150 DPI

- Before Distiller 4.0, resampling used the 1-out-of-N-pixels subsampling
technique instead of the average-all-N-pixels downsampling technique.
Subsampling can delete entire thin lines; don't use it.

- Before Acrobat 4.0, screen display used subsampling, so even if the PDF
file has enough pixels, you wouldn't see them and thin lines could
disappear. This has been addressed in Acrobat 4.0, which uses
downsampling for images on screen if you set File > Preferences > general
> Smooth Text and Images.


There are two quick ways to tell whether fuzzy screen shots are due to
inadequate pixels in the PDF file, or the file is fine but the screen
display is throwing away too much information:

1. Print the file. If printed screen shots are OK, there are enough
pixels in the PDF file.

2. On screen, zoom in to, say, 400%. If thin lines reappear, there are
enough pixels in the PDF file.


If your PDF files are OK, you may find upgrading to Acrobat 4.0 rewarding
for better screen display. If your PDF files don't have enough pixels,
there is nothing to do short of recreating them with better (or no)
resampling.


This topic of screen shots tends to create slightly-off-the-mark advice
about compression techniques, such as the recent: 

   "Make sure your compression settings are zip 8-bit, rather than any
sort of 

    jpeg. Jpeg will cause extreme degradation of quality with screen
captures."

The first sentence is good, but only relevent if resampling hasn't
already thrown away too much of the screen shot. The second sentence is
not necessarily true. High-quality JPEG (low compression) is often fine;
the sentence *is* true for low-quality (high compression) JPEG applied to
screen shots. 


Below is a longish note on loseless vs. lossy compression techniques. I
hope it sheds a little light on the various options. /dick


=================================================

<bigger>Compression and Resampling options in PDF files

Dick Sites

Adobe Systems, Inc.

May, 1999


There are a number of compression options in PDF. Some have always been
in 

the PDF language, and one was added in PDF 1.2/Acrobat 3.0. 


Compression techniques divide into those that are lossless and those that 

are lossy. In addition, there are many resampling options in programs
that 

generate PDF images.


COMPRESSION

===========

As the names imply, a lossless compression technique returns exactly the 

original bits upon decompression, while a lossy technique introduces
noise 

or differences that can range from minor to quite visible. 


It is always safe to use a LOSSLESS compression technique. It NEVER makes 

sense to prohibit compression outright; it does make sense in some 

environments to prohibit lossy or very lossy compression.


Here are the PDF language compression techniques (using their common 

names), listed with better ones first:


                     PDF-1.3 

                     PDF-1.2 PDF-1.1 PDF-1.0

                     Acrobat Acrobat Acrobat ======= Images =====  
text/

Lossless             3.x/4.0  2.x    1.x     Color Grayscale B&W 
graphics 

----------           ------ ------ -------   ------ ------ ------  ----- 
            

Flate/Zip*              Y                      Y      Y      Y**     Y

LZW*                    Y      Y      Y        Y      Y      Y**     Y

CCITT Fax Group 4       Y      Y      Y                      Y

CCITT Fax Group 3       Y      Y      Y                      Y

Run Length              Y      Y      Y                      Y


Lossy

----------

Zip 8/4-bit             Y                      Y      Y 

LZW 8/4-bit             Y      Y      Y        Y      Y 

JPEG***                 Y      Y      Y        Y      Y


* Zip is the default lossless compression for Acrobat 3.x/4.0; LZW for
2.x. 

** Not recommended for black/white images. CCITT Group 4 usually gives
better   

compression.

*** You can choose the degree of noise introduced -- JPEG Low means low   

compression = high quality. In many environments, high-quality JPEG is   

perfectly acceptable. The only way to tell is to experiment. Distiller
4.0 

changed terminology from Compression=low to Quality=high.


Flate/Zip (one technique with two names) was new in Acrobat 3.0; if you 

use it you usually get smaller files than with Acrobat 2.1's LZW, but 

someone with Acrobat 2.1 cannot read your file. Adobe generally
recommends 

Flate/Zip for lossless compression of everything except bitonal images. 


CCITT Group 4 is best for black/white images. Adobe generally recommends 

CCITT Group 4 for lossless compression of bitonal images. 


CCITT Group 3 is an older fax standard that gives less compression than 

Group 4. Run Length is based on the original Apple Macintosh run length 

encoding. Because they are simpler, these two had a little to recommend 

them when CPUs were the speed of 286 or 68000 chips. Today they are not 

recommended.


JPEG is used worldwide in digital television and digital cameras and on 

the Web. At medium or low quality (medium or high compression) it can
look 

very grainy. At high quality it can be unnoticeable. JPEG is intended for 

use on pictures of the real world; at higher compression levels, it can 

introduce noticeable artifacts in synthetic pictures, such as screen
shots. 


RESAMPLING

==========

The resampling options in PDFWriter and Distiller and Photoshop work only 

on images (not text or graphics). They allow you to convert, say, a 300 

DPI image to 72 DPI. A 300 DPI image has about 16 times as many pixels as 

a 72 DPI image, so resampling can have a noticeable effect on file size. 

However, after compression using one of the recommended techniques above, 

the difference in file size might not be as dramatic. (Resampling could 

also be used to convert a 72 DPI image to 300 DPI, but this can't make
the 

image better; all it does is make the file bigger -- don't do it.)


Resampling is lossy. In fact, it can be VERY lossy if you change the DPI 

by more than about a factor of 2. On the other hand, there is little
point 

in keeping a 2400 DPI image in a PDF file if it will never be viewed or 

printed at a resolution above 300 DPI. A good rule of thumb is to
consider 

resampling to twice the resolution you expect to use for printing or 

viewing. This suggests that going below about 150 DPI will give poor-

quality results even on 72-DPI VGA monitors.


Two different techniques are used for resampling. Downsampling averages 

the pixels of the original to get each pixel of the final result. 

Subsampling just picks ONE of the pixels of the original to get each
pixel 

of the final result. Subsampling is an inferior technique. Because it is 

simpler, it had a little to recommend it when CPUs were the speed of 286 

or 68000 chips. Today it is NOT recommended. [Subsampling an image is the 

technique of choice for making thin lines and text disappear in screen 

shots, scanner output, and Type 3 fonts. You don't want it. Don't use
it.]


Bicubic downsampling, where available, is even better than plain 

downsampling -- it uses cubic curves instead of straight lines to 

interpolate the pixels in the X and Y directions.


COLOR DEPTH

===========

A third way to reduce the size of images is available in Photoshop and 

other image products -- color depth reduction. For example, you can 

convert 8-bit grayscale to 4-bit, or 24-bit color images to 12- or 8-bit, 

reducing the space needed by a factor of two or three. Color depth 

reduction is lossy, but in some images the fine detail of color shading
is 

not needed.


DISTILLER NOTES

===============

The Zip/LZW (8 bit) and (4 bit) options in Distiller are actually
combina-

tions of two techniques. They first do a potentially-lossy reduction of
the 

color depth of an image to 8 or 4 bits respectively PER COMPONENT (i.e. 4 

bit means 4-bit gray, 12-bit RGB, and 16-bit CMYK), then do a lossless
Zip 

or LZW compression. The 8-bit color depth reduction is lossy only if you 

have a PostScript level 2 file with 12-bit color components; the 4-bit 

only if you have 12- or 8-bit components.


In Distiller, downsampling an image or converting color space RGB<<->CMYK 

can trigger increasing its color depth (for example, downsampling a
black-

and-white image can produce an anti-aliased gray image). This is done 

before any color depth reduction above.


The Distiller Automatic choice between Zip/LZW and JPEG is slightly 

complex and subject to future refinement. The goal is to select an 

appropriate compression technique for each image. JPEG is used if the 

image is downsampled by more than 2:1, or if the average and standard 

deviation of the differences between adjacent pixels are less than some 

empirical threshold (indicating smooth color transitions). If you don't 

like the Automatic choice, use Manual.


Distiller will not JPEG compress an indexed-color image or one with fewer 

than 256 distinct color values; it will use Zip/LZW instead.



Using compression, resampling, and color depth reduction, you can usually 

achieve a good balance between image quality and file size. 


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> Dick Sites, Adobe Systems, Inc. wrote:

> This topic of screen shots tends to create slightly-off-the-mark advice
> about compression techniques, such as the recent:
>    "Make sure your compression settings are zip 8-bit, rather than any sort of
>     jpeg. Jpeg will cause extreme degradation of quality with screen
>     captures."
> The first sentence is good, but only relevent if resampling hasn't already
> thrown away too much of the screen shot.

What resampling?

> The second sentence is not
> necessarily true. High-quality JPEG (low compression) is often fine; the
> sentence *is* true for low-quality (high compression) JPEG applied to
> screen shots.

Okay, I'm going to throw a monkey wrench into the works.

I took a screen capture on my Mac, which saves at 72 dpi. There are programs
that are more sophisticated and have various resolution settings. I opened
the shot in Photoshop and selected an 8 1/2 x 11 portion of the image. The
image was the main screen of Outlook Express, so had some colors, some
tints, a black border and a lot of 10 pt. type.

I made four PDF files at various compression settings:

ZIP - 204K - save as PDF
Low jpg - 162K - save as PDF
High jpg - 383K - save as PDF
Zip-high - 204K - save as eps file, then distilled

They all looked, and printed, identical in quality which wasn't great, but
readble.

The zip with high-quality jpg was "exactly" the same size as the zip file
saved directly from Photoshop, but if done by Distilling takes an extra
step.

The high-quality jpg was almost double the size of the zip file.

The low-quality jpg was the smallest sized file, as one would expect.

I've always been told, or read, that zip was the best way to save screen
shots. It certainly beats the high-quality jpg in size. But the low-quality
jpg was smaller, and the quality was just the same.

Go figure.

I guess you have to be a rocket scientist to work with screen shots, and
sometimes Acrobat.

Rich

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> Are there any Enterprise level document archiveing solutions that use .pdf
> - ie. scan docs, etc. etc. I need SQL db indexing and integration - budget
> is $15-20K, cross platform is imperative.
>
> I have looked at systems that revolve arounf .tif - was not that impressed.
>
> Thoughts, pointers, contacts would be appreciated.

Assuming I understand the question, you might want to contact Deidre Paknad
at Glyphica (paknad@glyphica.com) and ask about their CollectionPortal
product. It allows you to organize your Adobe Captured PDFs, attach
metadata, perform complicated searches on text and metadata, all through a
common browser interface. Elegant, simple product from seasoned, ex-Adobe
professionals.

--
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For non-mac users (sorry!), you can try ISI GraphicCopy, which is
freeware off our website. The resolution is much higher than other ways
to get screen shots from PDFs- from 72 to 400 DPI:

http://www.imagesolutions.com/pages/products/#Acrobat Exchange Plugins

-SM

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> 
> > Dick Sites, Adobe Systems, Inc. wrote:
> 
> > This topic of screen shots tends to create slightly-off-the-mark
> advice
> > about compression techniques, such as the recent:
> >    "Make sure your compression settings are zip 8-bit, rather than
> any sort of
> >     jpeg. Jpeg will cause extreme degradation of quality with screen
> >     captures."
> > The first sentence is good, but only relevent if resampling hasn't
> already
> > thrown away too much of the screen shot.
> 
> What resampling?
> 
> > The second sentence is not
> > necessarily true. High-quality JPEG (low compression) is often fine;
> the
> > sentence *is* true for low-quality (high compression) JPEG applied
> to
> > screen shots.
> 
> Okay, I'm going to throw a monkey wrench into the works.
> 
> I took a screen capture on my Mac, which saves at 72 dpi. There are
> programs
> that are more sophisticated and have various resolution settings. I
> opened
> the shot in Photoshop and selected an 8 1/2 x 11 portion of the image.
> The
> image was the main screen of Outlook Express, so had some colors, some
> tints, a black border and a lot of 10 pt. type.
> 
> I made four PDF files at various compression settings:
> 
> ZIP - 204K - save as PDF
> Low jpg - 162K - save as PDF
> High jpg - 383K - save as PDF
> Zip-high - 204K - save as eps file, then distilled
> 
> They all looked, and printed, identical in quality which wasn't great,
> but
> readble.
> 
> The zip with high-quality jpg was "exactly" the same size as the zip
> file
> saved directly from Photoshop, but if done by Distilling takes an
> extra
> step.
> 
> The high-quality jpg was almost double the size of the zip file.
> 
> The low-quality jpg was the smallest sized file, as one would expect.
> 
> I've always been told, or read, that zip was the best way to save
> screen
> shots. It certainly beats the high-quality jpg in size. But the
> low-quality
> jpg was smaller, and the quality was just the same.
> 
> Go figure.
> 
> I guess you have to be a rocket scientist to work with screen shots,
> and
> sometimes Acrobat.
> 
> Rich
> 
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>Are there any Enterprise level document archiveing solutions that use .pdf
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pcDocs and Documentum are two that I have worked with.....

Which platforms are implied in "cross platform is imperative" ?

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>      error, which I can't find in the help index.
>      Anybody know how I could accomplish this?
>      Kim

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Not necessarily, Rich. I believ that Kim is asking for
help with the Web Capture function in Acrobat 4.0 .

I can't be of much help in that regard, Kim, but I'm sure 
there are people on this list who can.

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Kim wrote:
>      Hi ... I want to open and save
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>      slash/es. What happens is I get a "no input file page data"
>      error, which I can't find in the help index.
>      Anybody know how I could accomplish this?

Maybe I do have a clue after all.

The actual name of the page is not displayed in the URL line
at the top of the page, so Acrobat can't get info on just a
directory alone. The actual name of the page is this...
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/mandela/index.html
Click on this link and you should get your capture.

Shane

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Hi I am new to this list and am unaware as to whether this question has
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> options in  trapping  a PDF. Ideally I want it physically on the file so
> that it can be viewed and output and not dependent on a RIP to execute
> later.

Hi Steve,

You might find this interesting...

{excerpted from the David Hawkins <dhawkins@graphicsresource.com>
Industry Intelligence Newsletter}

Apple, Kodak Polychrome Graphics, Ultimate and ECRM announce 
the "Apple Prepress Workflow" Seminar Series:

Prominent industry experts combine forces for a seminar series focused
on 
an automated PostScript/PDF trapping and imposition workflow on a 
Power Macintosh G3 Server, as well as proofing and imaging solutions

Shane

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> Kim wrote:
>>      Hi ... I want to open and save
>>      http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/mandela/ as a
>>      PDF but can't figure out how. I can open www.pbs.org
>>      <http://www.pbs.org>  no prob, but nothing after the
>>      slash/es. What happens is I get a "no input file page data"
>>      error, which I can't find in the help index.
>>      Anybody know how I could accomplish this?
>>      Kim
>
> and Rich Sprague responded:
>> The link worked fine for me, on a Mac using Netscape 4.5x, but
>> internet navigation (even with the hint that you want to save a PDF
>> file) is definitely off-topic.
>
>
> Not necessarily, Rich. I believ that Kim is asking for
> help with the Web Capture function in Acrobat 4.0 .
>
> I can't be of much help in that regard, Kim, but I'm sure
> there are people on this list who can.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Shane

My mistake.

I opened the page in Netscape (PC) and created the file she wanted using PDF
Maker and e-mailed it to her. It was easier than trying to navigate through
the maze. Any newbie to a program (her or me) shouldn't have to figure out
you need the word "index" to get to where you want to go. That was a good
suggestion, however. I just shortcutted the process and used the
old-fashioned method for opening the page and making the PDF.

PDF copies of web pages are great.

Appreciate the feedback, Shane.

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> Stephen Smith wrote:
>> Hi I am new to this list and am unaware as to whether this question has
>> been raised before. I was after some opinions as what are the best
>> options in  trapping  a PDF. Ideally I want it physically on the file so
>> that it can be viewed and output and not dependent on a RIP to execute
>> later.
>
> Hi Steve,
>
> You might find this interesting...
>
> {excerpted from the David Hawkins <dhawkins@graphicsresource.com>
> Industry Intelligence Newsletter}
>
> Apple, Kodak Polychrome Graphics, Ultimate and ECRM announce
> the "Apple Prepress Workflow" Seminar Series:
>
> Prominent industry experts combine forces for a seminar series focused
> on
> an automated PostScript/PDF trapping and imposition workflow on a
> Power Macintosh G3 Server, as well as proofing and imaging solutions
>
> Shane

Shane, isn't it true that trapping is fairly limited at this time to either
an application like Trap-Wise, or in-rip trapping?

Do you know of other options?

I know many people who are hesitant to use PDF in high-end pre-press
strictly because of trapping issues.

It is my understanding that all Quark trapping, for example, is lost, when
distilling PDF's, while manual trapping in Illustrator files is retained.

I hope the experts provide us some new solutions for those that don't have
rips with trapping or 5000 bucks to help Imation's coffers.

Rich

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Shane,

Thanks for the response, however Ultimate with Trapeze does trap PDF's but
does not generate a PDF as output, which is what I require.

regards

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> Stephen Smith wrote:
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> > been raised before. I was after some opinions as what are the best
> > options in  trapping  a PDF. Ideally I want it physically on the file so
> > that it can be viewed and output and not dependent on a RIP to execute
> > later.
>
> Hi Steve,
>
> You might find this interesting...
>
> {excerpted from the David Hawkins <dhawkins@graphicsresource.com>
> Industry Intelligence Newsletter}
>
> Apple, Kodak Polychrome Graphics, Ultimate and ECRM announce
> the "Apple Prepress Workflow" Seminar Series:
>
> Prominent industry experts combine forces for a seminar series focused
> on
> an automated PostScript/PDF trapping and imposition workflow on a
> Power Macintosh G3 Server, as well as proofing and imaging solutions
>
> Shane
>
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> I opened the page in Netscape (PC) and created the file she wanted using PDF
> Maker and e-mailed it to her. It was easier than trying to navigate through
> the maze. Any newbie to a program (her or me) shouldn't have to figure out
> you need the word "index" to get to where you want to go. That was a good
> suggestion, however. I just shortcutted the process and used the
> old-fashioned method for opening the page and making the PDF.

Only one thing. I think you'll find that the Web Capture in
Acrobat 4.0 offers a much more consistent result across
various machines and platforms than PDF Maker can. One of 
the key areas will be in the fonts displayed on the originator's
screen, compared to that of any subsequent viewers of the material.
This is probably similar to the compared use of PDF Writer 
versus Distiller. Distilled files are much more bulletproof.

> PDF copies of web pages are great.

Agree. Whole-heartedly!


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Stephen Smith wrote:
> Thanks for the response, however Ultimate with Trapeze does trap PDF's but
> does not generate a PDF as output, which is what I require.

Okay. How do you feel about separated PDF?

You can print separated PostScript from Quark, which will not only
respect your trap settings, it will incorporate the traps as
independent objects into the separated stream. These traps cannot
be ignored by an output device since they do not use either
setoverprint (PS) or settrap (QX) operators.

The resulting 4-page file will be device independent and have
the "protected" traps you seem to be after. However, unless
you can merge the four "digital seps" together in a PDF sandwich
you won't be playing by composite rules. Interestingly, the 
PDF 1.3 spec does provide for transparency (direct overprinting)
and so the PDF "sandwich" is THEORETICALLY possible.

Developers pay attention!

Sincere regards,

Shane

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> Shane, isn't it true that trapping is fairly limited at this time to either
> an application like Trap-Wise, or in-rip trapping?
>
> Do you know of other options?

Quoting from recent InDesign technical material (in seminar 5/25/99):

To enable the trapping options available in InDesign, you must be using an
Adobe PostScript 3 RIP that supports Adobe in-RIP Trapping.

You can trap not only InDesign-created objects, but placed graphics and
images as well. You'll have access to all the high-end trapping controls
you'd expect to find only in a post-processing trapping application, such
as:
- specifying page-level trap zones
- Specifying trap styles
- Adjusting ink neutral density values
- Compensating for custom inks (metallic, opaque, pastel, varnishes, and
other solid inks like neon orange)
- Trapping controls for blacks and rich-black
- Specifying trapping thresholds for: Text, Step Limit, Black Color Limit,
Black Density Limit, Sliding Trap Limit
- Specifying trapping controls for the following: Image Trap Placement, Trap
Object to Imagges, Internal Images Trapping, Trap 1-bit (monochrome) images

With implementation of this technology in both Adobe PostScript 3 and Adobe
PostScript Extreme, this all-digiatl trapping workflow supports both
composite PostScript files and PDF files using Adobe Trapping technology.

Apple is co-hosting seminars on InDesign at many cities throughout North
America between now and late July. Go to
http://seminars.apple.com/series/getindesign/index.html for details and
registration.

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Rich Sprague wrote:
> Shane, isn't it true that trapping is fairly limited at this time to either
> an application like Trap-Wise, or in-rip trapping?

When speaking of PDF in and PDF out, yes, the options are limited.
Especially if you want to make the file "deliverable" and useful
to others in an extended workflow arrangement.

In my particular area of concern, digital ads for publications,
this is a matter much contested. Printers and publishers would
like to receive pre-trapped files - similar to the existing
arrangement with supplied film. You wouldn't supply a film-based
ad untrapped.

Applications, like TrapWise, provide an accessible alternative
whereby you can make a PDF file, export an EPS, trap that with
an object-oriented vector layer or a raster-based 8-bit layer,
and recompose (via Distiller) the resulting trapped EPS back
into a PDF file. This would give you an undeniably trapped
PDF which will display all traps - even on a composite print
device. Or, leave the file in EPS mode. The file is already
portable, simplified and font-embedded. It's also easily
importable into just about any other application.
 
> Do you know of other options?

Separated PDF. See post to Steve Smith;same subject.

> I know many people who are hesitant to use PDF in high-end pre-press
> strictly because of trapping issues.

For internal workflows, you have plenty of options. Scitex
Brisque, etc. For shared workflows (ad distribution etc.)
the options are more limited, but not out of reach. A little
creativity goes a long way.

> It is my understanding that all Quark trapping, for example, is lost, when
> distilling PDF's, while manual trapping in Illustrator files is retained.

All QX traps are maintained in separated mode. But, in composite 
distilling, there is every opportunity to "lose" the traps. 
You could distill from a Quark-exported EPS but there are 
issues with fonts and the nature of the traps. Illustrator traps
are more readily respected by RIPs because they do not re-define
the setoverprint operator as Quark does.

Best regards,

Shane

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Shane,

The separated page(s) would be fine but we need to  print this to a proofing
device. So either as you suggest have a "sandwich" but I am unaware of any pdf
tools that recombines pages (separations)

best regards

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> Stephen Smith wrote:
> > Thanks for the response, however Ultimate with Trapeze does trap PDF's but
> > does not generate a PDF as output, which is what I require.
>
> Okay. How do you feel about separated PDF?
>
> You can print separated PostScript from Quark, which will not only
> respect your trap settings, it will incorporate the traps as
> independent objects into the separated stream. These traps cannot
> be ignored by an output device since they do not use either
> setoverprint (PS) or settrap (QX) operators.
>
> The resulting 4-page file will be device independent and have
> the "protected" traps you seem to be after. However, unless
> you can merge the four "digital seps" together in a PDF sandwich
> you won't be playing by composite rules. Interestingly, the
> PDF 1.3 spec does provide for transparency (direct overprinting)
> and so the PDF "sandwich" is THEORETICALLY possible.
>
> Developers pay attention!
>
> Sincere regards,
>
> Shane
>
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Stephen Smith wrote:
> The separated page(s) would be fine but we need to  print this to a proofing
> device. So either as you suggest have a "sandwich" but I am unaware of any pdf
> tools that recombines pages (separations)

That's probably because, to the best of my knowledge, 
none currently exist. I would look to third party developers
for this kind of support - in the future.  :)

Alternatively, you could export those pages to EPS format
from within Acrobat and link them to a minimally configured
DCS placement file which would use the four EPS files as
external DCS resources. Clue: What's in a name? Everything.

Then, you could print that DCS file to any composite printer
through Quark with an XTension like SmartXT from Total Integration.
Or, if you are proofing on a RIP that supports recombination
of seps (Rainbow, Splash, Iris IQ-Pro) you can print them
without any additional plug-ins or apps.

That's the DCS option. But not the only DCS option to be sure.
It's a bit convoluted, but it works, And now, with Acro 4.0,
it will also work with TrueType fonts as well.

For a PDF-only option, trap off-line (TrapWise, etc.) and make 
the trapped EPS back into a PDF. This will also work.

The permutations are (almost) endless. It is not my intent to
be vendor-specific in these responses. I am only citing certain
applications since they fall conveniently into place. Other
combinations are obviously workable as well. (Eg. Agfa's Apogee
workflow system, Scitex Brisque, various Harlequin pieces with
Creo workflow, etc.) Of course, we have the upcoming InDesign
workflows which are about to leap to life with the addition
of a PostScript 3 RIP and a sprinkling of IRT flags.

That's all tech - no human touch. The much larger question is...

Who takes responsibility for trapping "gone wrong" in any
delegated trapping situation?


Sardonically yours,  }8^)>

Shane

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This ties back to the earlier trapping thread.
Attn: Steve Smith, Rich Sprague and the dMACS List.

One more tip on proofing separated output on RIPs that
will recombine separations...

Once you tell the RIP that separated output is coming
down the pipe, most RIPS don't care whether the four
plates are on the same page or not.

They will usually accept four grayscale pages from
four successive pages in a document and print out
one "merged" proof in CMYK - as long as the page
order matches the anticipated separation order.
The separation order is usually user-definable in a
print dialog submenu provided by the Print Driver.

So, if you've got four EPS files derived from a
separated PDF (traps and fonts embedded), you can 
use this method to push the envelope.

If you're going to cheat, cheat well.

Shane

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Who takes responsibility for trapping "gone wrong" in any
delegated trapping situation?

Shane,

That's exactly why I want and need to proof the PDF with the trapping.

Thanks for your input

regards

Steve Smith

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> Stephen Smith wrote:
> > The separated page(s) would be fine but we need to  print this to a proofing
> > device. So either as you suggest have a "sandwich" but I am unaware of any pdf
> > tools that recombines pages (separations)
>
> That's probably because, to the best of my knowledge,
> none currently exist. I would look to third party developers
> for this kind of support - in the future.  :)
>
> Alternatively, you could export those pages to EPS format
> from within Acrobat and link them to a minimally configured
> DCS placement file which would use the four EPS files as
> external DCS resources. Clue: What's in a name? Everything.
>
> Then, you could print that DCS file to any composite printer
> through Quark with an XTension like SmartXT from Total Integration.
> Or, if you are proofing on a RIP that supports recombination
> of seps (Rainbow, Splash, Iris IQ-Pro) you can print them
> without any additional plug-ins or apps.
>
> That's the DCS option. But not the only DCS option to be sure.
> It's a bit convoluted, but it works, And now, with Acro 4.0,
> it will also work with TrueType fonts as well.
>
> For a PDF-only option, trap off-line (TrapWise, etc.) and make
> the trapped EPS back into a PDF. This will also work.
>
> The permutations are (almost) endless. It is not my intent to
> be vendor-specific in these responses. I am only citing certain
> applications since they fall conveniently into place. Other
> combinations are obviously workable as well. (Eg. Agfa's Apogee
> workflow system, Scitex Brisque, various Harlequin pieces with
> Creo workflow, etc.) Of course, we have the upcoming InDesign
> workflows which are about to leap to life with the addition
> of a PostScript 3 RIP and a sprinkling of IRT flags.
>
> That's all tech - no human touch. The much larger question is...
>
> Who takes responsibility for trapping "gone wrong" in any
> delegated trapping situation?
>
> Sardonically yours,  }8^)>
>
> Shane
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Hi everybody,

do someone know how to create a logo/watermark with the prologue-file ?

Something like "PRINT" in big letters, put into background and diagonally
over the first page...

I tried the example in "CustomerFirst Support", but our Distiller v3.02
don't recognize the setpagedevice-command :-(


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Hi Shane ... Ithanks, but I did try using index.html actually, before I
posted to this group. That works fine if I'm opening it in IE5, but returns
the same error - "no input file page data" - if I open it with Acrobat.

Perhaps web capture works only from the top level down.

Kim

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> Kim wrote:
> >      Hi ... I want to open and save
> >      http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/mandela/ as a
> >      PDF but can't figure out how. I can open www.pbs.org
> >      <http://www.pbs.org> Ýno prob, but nothing after the
> >      slash/es. What happens is I get a "no input file page data"
> >      error, which I can't find in the help index.
> >      Anybody know how I could accomplish this?
>
> Maybe I do have a clue after all.
>
> The actual name of the page is not displayed in the URL line
> at the top of the page, so Acrobat can't get info on just a
> directory alone. The actual name of the page is this...
> http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/mandela/index.html
> Click on this link and you should get your capture.
>
> Shane
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Stellactica wrote:
> Hi Shane ... thanks, but I did try using index.html actually, before I
> posted to this group. That works fine if I'm opening it in IE5, but returns
> the same error - "no input file page data" - if I open it with Acrobat.
> 
> Perhaps web capture works only from the top level down.

Kim, you could try the follwing test to see if the problem is
peculiar to the page or to the web server that's hosting it.

Save the web page as "Source" to a local disk. Open the locally
saved HTML file in a Browser. Don't worry if some - or all - of
the links are broken. This is only a test. Try the Web Capture
now from the local file in the browser. If it goes fine (except
for the broken links - caused by relative directory linking in
the original HTML file), then the remote server is likely the
root cause of your distress. It may be serving the directory
contents in some dynamic way that is interfering with Acrobat.
Maybe it's refusing Read permissions to Acrobat requests ?!?!

Everybody say, "Hmmmm..."

Cheers,

Shane

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> Hi Shane ... Ithanks, but I did try using index.html actually, before I
> posted to this group. That works fine if I'm opening it in IE5, but returns
> the same error - "no input file page data" - if I open it with Acrobat.
>
> Perhaps web capture works only from the top level down.
>
> Kim

Kim was trying to "web capture" a PBS page on Mandela. She got some sort of
obscure error message, but can open the page in a normal browser. I could,
too, that is open the page in a browser. I also got the same error message
she did using Acrobat.

Here's the good news, bad news.

I went up one level on the directory and was able to open "Ambush" okay
using Acrobat. It's another PBS program.

Thus, convoluted logic would lead one to believe that that particular web
page doesn't like Acrobat. Solution, open the page in a browser, and use PDF
Maker to print a PDF file, or print a ps file and distill.

Moral/s to the story. One, I assumed the wrong set of circumstances when I
posted advice. Bad idea. Two, if stuck, test an alternative file (in this
case, page). Three, post to the list for help. Four, while waiting for
nirvana, use a workaround. Five, don't give up. Today's problems may be
solved by tomorrow, just in time for something else to give us a headache.

Rich

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Needs to insert a new first page to over 500 documents.

It's the same first page document that should be added to all docs.

Whats the most effective tool for this?



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> Kim was trying to "web capture" a PBS page on Mandela. She 
> got some sort of
> obscure error message, but can open the page in a normal 
> browser. I could,
> too, that is open the page in a browser. I also got the same 
> error message
> she did using Acrobat.

I just took a detailed look at the page. I think the problem is
that the HTML is wrong.

An HTML comment is supposed to look like this
<!--  any old stuff -->

But this page contains a comment ending only -> which I suspect
causes all of the content to disappear.

There are widespread variations between browsers (here, Acrobat
counts as a browser) as to what they tolerate in the way of bad
HTML.

Netscape can't even agree with itself. It shows the page on screen,
but when using View Source the syntax highlighting clearly shows
the whole file from that point as a comment.

Aandi

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>> Kim was trying to "web capture" a PBS page on Mandela. She 
>> got some sort of
>> obscure error message, but can open the page in a normal
>> browser. I could,
>> too, that is open the page in a browser. I also got the same
>> error message
>> she did using Acrobat.
>
> I just took a detailed look at the page. I think the problem is
> that the HTML is wrong.
>
> An HTML comment is supposed to look like this
> <!--  any old stuff -->
>
> But this page contains a comment ending only -> which I suspect
> causes all of the content to disappear.
>
> There are widespread variations between browsers (here, Acrobat
> counts as a browser) as to what they tolerate in the way of bad
> HTML.
>
> Netscape can't even agree with itself. It shows the page on screen,
> but when using View Source the syntax highlighting clearly shows
> the whole file from that point as a comment.
>
> Aandi

Your genious just amazes me. Wish we could have coffee or a glass of wine.

Rich

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Are there any Enterprise level document archiveing solutions that use .pdf
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I have looked at systems that revolve arounf .tif - was not that impressed.

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> Needs to insert a new first page to over 500 documents.
>
> It's the same first page document that should be added to all docs.
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> Whats the most effective tool for this?

How about a VB program using OLE automation? You can use the
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Wow, you're awesome! ... didn't even occur to me to look at the code. And
thanks to everyone else for the good suggestions.

Kim

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> > Kim was trying to "web capture" a PBS page on Mandela. She
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> I just took a detailed look at the page. I think the problem is
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visit http://www.codecuts.com and check under the IAC section there is a
code cut on how to combine all PDF's in one folder into one PDF, you could
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Dave.......
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Hello:

In www.codecuts.com there's a Codecut by Karl de Abrew

That extracts a page from a doc and inserts it into another.

With a little work, you can modify it so it inserts it in 500 diferent docs.

In VB, you just have to use the DIR function.

Hope this helps!

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Thanx Carlos (and Dave) for pointing me to codecuts.com

It is really a wonderful place and I very much regret not having looked in
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John

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>That extracts a page from a doc and inserts it into another.
>
>With a little work, you can modify it so it inserts it in 500 diferent docs.
>
>In VB, you just have to use the DIR function.
>
>Hope this helps!
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>Saludos desde Madrid.
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PDFZone,

While making an update to a specific pdf document, using "Replace Pages" 
option in Acrobat Exchange 3.0, a message appears before even completing 
this task:

"These documents contain subset fonts that have the same name and cannot be 
merged".

The hard part, I dont have a clue what it means. Never occured before 
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>Is there still a product referred to as Exchange Lite? It was a sort of a
>limited Exchange product that allowed saving but not creating PDF's for
>about $40.

Check the Adobe site. I beleive they will sell you (in >10 quantity) just
Acrobat for a substantially reduced rate. You don't get Distiller, but you
can edit to your heart's content.

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> >Is there still a product referred to as Exchange Lite? It was a sort of a
> >limited Exchange product that allowed saving but not creating PDF's for
> >about $40.
> 
> Check the Adobe site. I beleive they will sell you (in >10 quantity) just
> Acrobat for a substantially reduced rate. You don't get Distiller, but you
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Hi Karl,

Has Adobe licensed you to sell ADS? One of my customers, Karen Mibus from
KeyBank told me you were going to sell it to her. We (the Adobe field sales)
haven't been given clear directions on who will be selling this product.

Any information would be helpful,
lori

-------
Lori Ann DeFurio
Application Engineer, New England & Upstate NY
Adobe Systems, Inc.
315 568.8718
mailto:ldefurio@adobe.com

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com [mailto:owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com]On
> Behalf Of Karl De Abrew
> Sent: Monday, May 17, 1999 7:34 AM
> To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'
> Subject: RE: [PDF] Adobe Document Server - how to get it?
>
>
>
> <- Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...->
> <- ... at <http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdfl> ->
>
> Hello James,
>
> I do not know of products that offer off-the-shelf server side printing.
> This would not be a very complicated application to write - if you have
> access to a programmer then I can give some pointers as to how to go
> about it.
>
> Alternatively, if you contact me privately I will be able to assist you
> with acquiring ADS (it is a product that must be sold by a Systems
> Integrator).
>
> > I need the server side printing facillities offered by ADS
> > for my company.
> > Does anyone know how I get a copy? Adobe's site indicates that I can't
> > simply buy it (!?). Does anyone know of products offering similar
> > functionality?
>
> regards,
>
> Karl De Abrew
> karl@PlanetPDF.com
> http://www.PlanetPDF.com/
> ____________________________________________________________
>
>      PDF: No Reader? NO Problem! with Adobe Document Server (ADS)
>   Test drive Acrobat-Reader-free viewing of PDF files at PDFzone.COM
>                     < http://www.pdfzone.com/adsintro.html?pdfl >
>
>
>


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Whoops!

This was meant for Karl only - sorry!!!!

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315 568.8718
mailto:ldefurio@adobe.com

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Thursday, May 27, 1999 2:09 PM
To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com
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Hi Karl,

Has Adobe licensed you to sell ADS? One of my customers, Karen Mibus from
KeyBank told me you were going to sell it to her. We (the Adobe field sales)
haven't been given clear directions on who will be selling this product.

Any information would be helpful,
lori

-------
Lori Ann DeFurio
Application Engineer, New England & Upstate NY
Adobe Systems, Inc.
315 568.8718
mailto:ldefurio@adobe.com

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com [mailto:owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com]On
> Behalf Of Karl De Abrew
> Sent: Monday, May 17, 1999 7:34 AM
> To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'
> Subject: RE: [PDF] Adobe Document Server - how to get it?
>
>
>
> <- Get A FREE subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal...->
> <- ... at <http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdfl> ->
>
> Hello James,
>
> I do not know of products that offer off-the-shelf server side printing.
> This would not be a very complicated application to write - if you have
> access to a programmer then I can give some pointers as to how to go
> about it.
>
> Alternatively, if you contact me privately I will be able to assist you
> with acquiring ADS (it is a product that must be sold by a Systems
> Integrator).
>
> > I need the server side printing facillities offered by ADS
> > for my company.
> > Does anyone know how I get a copy? Adobe's site indicates that I can't
> > simply buy it (!?). Does anyone know of products offering similar
> > functionality?
>
> regards,
>
> Karl De Abrew
> karl@PlanetPDF.com
> http://www.PlanetPDF.com/
> ____________________________________________________________
>
>      PDF: No Reader? NO Problem! with Adobe Document Server (ADS)
>   Test drive Acrobat-Reader-free viewing of PDF files at PDFzone.COM
>                     < http://www.pdfzone.com/adsintro.html?pdfl >
>
>
>


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I suspect this message may have beeb intended to be private communication,
so unless I hear otherwise, I propose that this thread not continue
publicly at this time.

As we've been hosting an ADS demo at PDFzone.COM, and discussing with
certain Adobe staff the possibility of selling ADS in some fashion via
PDFzone.COM, we're in touch with the proper Adobe folks on ADS. We routed
this message privately to those individuals and suggested they respond here
publicly with a few details.

Until that happens, this thread should only proceed offline -- direct email
between interested parties. Rather than speculate publicly, please wait for
some officially posted news from Adobe.

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info, so feel free to send anything of that sort directly to:

	mailto:webmaster@pdfzone.com

and we'll be sure the right people receive it.

Thanks in advance for your cooperation.

rgds ~ Kurt

===

>Has Adobe licensed you to sell ADS? One of my customers, Karen Mibus from
>KeyBank told me you were going to sell it to her. We (the Adobe field sales)
>haven't been given clear directions on who will be selling this product.
>
>Any information would be helpful,
>lori
>
>-------
>Lori Ann DeFurio
>Application Engineer, New England & Upstate NY
>Adobe Systems, Inc.
>315 568.8718
>mailto:ldefurio@adobe.com

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I use Pagemaker 6.52 for Windows (UKEnglish version installed)  and have
downloaded the PDF import update, followed the instructions exactly but
Pagemaker will not recognise PDF as an "importable" file type
any suggestions ?

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Excuse me if someone has already mentioned this. I've just noticed that
there are  international versions of Acrobat Reader 4.0 available at
Adobe - Mac and Win  versions. 

Languages: Dutch, French, German, Italian, Japanese, Portuguese, Spanish
and Swedish.

http://www.adobe.com/prodindex/acrobat/alternate.html

Regards,
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In response to the numerous public and private requests for information
about purchasing the Adobe Document Server (ADS), Adobe Systems has
provided us the following details to share with the PDF Community.

Please note that pre-release online demonstrations of ADS' capabilities can
be tested here at PDFzone.COM:

	http://www.pdfzone.com/adsintro.html

as well as at Adobe's website.

   === The following is from Adobe Systems staff ===

Adobe® Document Server is an easy-to-implement, server-based tool that
lets users view Adobe Portable Document Format (PDF)  files within a Web
browser, without requiring Adobe Acrobat® Reader or other client
software. It converts PDF documents into GIF or JPEG images and displays
them in the browser along with a toolbar for easily navigating and
searching the documents.  Adobe Document Server also lets you make PDF
content accessible to the visually impaired by enabling users to convert

PDF files into HTML text that can be interpreted by conventional
screen-reading software. And because it works with all browsers and
operating systems, you can be sure that anyone, anywhere can view and
navigate your PDF documents - no Reader required.

Adobe Document Server is not available for sale to end users directly
from Adobe or through retail channels. Instead, it will be bundled with
server-based solutions from selected third-party developers, integrators,
and VAR's.
It is implemented for Windows® NT® Server 4.0 (and greater) and Sun SolarisTM
2.5 (and later) in English, French, and German.

If you are an original equipment manufacturer or software vendor
interested in offering Adobe Document Server with your products, please
contact Adobe OEM Sales at 800-685-4150.

Please see http://www.adobe.com/prodindex/docserver/main.html for
updated information on solutions that include the Adobe Document Server
technology.
=====

rgds~Kurt


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In response to the numerous public and private requests for information
about purchasing the Adobe Document Server (ADS), Adobe Systems has
provided us the following details to share with the PDF Community.

Please note that pre-release online demonstrations of ADS' capabilities can
be tested here at PDFzone.COM:

	http://www.pdfzone.com/adsintro.html

as well as at Adobe's website.

   === The following is from Adobe Systems staff ===

Adobe® Document Server is an easy-to-implement, server-based tool that
lets users view Adobe Portable Document Format (PDF)  files within a Web
browser, without requiring Adobe Acrobat® Reader or other client
software. It converts PDF documents into GIF or JPEG images and displays
them in the browser along with a toolbar for easily navigating and
searching the documents.  Adobe Document Server also lets you make PDF
content accessible to the visually impaired by enabling users to convert

PDF files into HTML text that can be interpreted by conventional
screen-reading software. And because it works with all browsers and
operating systems, you can be sure that anyone, anywhere can view and
navigate your PDF documents - no Reader required.

Adobe Document Server is not available for sale to end users directly
from Adobe or through retail channels. Instead, it will be bundled with
server-based solutions from selected third-party developers, integrators,
and VAR's.
It is implemented for Windows® NT® Server 4.0 (and greater) and Sun SolarisTM
2.5 (and later) in English, French, and German.

If you are an original equipment manufacturer or software vendor
interested in offering Adobe Document Server with your products, please
contact Adobe OEM Sales at 800-685-4150.

Please see http://www.adobe.com/prodindex/docserver/main.html for
updated information on solutions that include the Adobe Document Server
technology.
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Quark, Inc. has just posted the latest beta version (1.1b21) of its
PDFFilter 1.0, an XTension to import/export PDF files into and
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<ftp://ftp2.quark.com/xpress/xtensions/mac/quark_xt40/PDF Filter.hqx> Mac
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Quark, Inc. has just posted the latest beta version (1.1b21) of its
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Hi Ivan
Has your PDF got a .pdf extension???
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Situation:
Have a number of PDF files, all with same password.

Need to take the security setting away in order to use another tool
(pdcat). Changed using batch in Acrobat and set password to blank.

But that do not change security setting. It still says security standard,
but password is nothing.

Want to set security to none - because if not, pdcat will not work.

How can this be done in batch? Do not want to open all files and do a Save As.

John

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I am using ASPs, PDF and the FDF Toolkit for ActiveX.  I can create a
PDF form with a button that submits FDF to an ASP page for processing,
then writes back to the PDF form.  How do I call an ASP page when the
form first loads, in order to write initial values for data to the form?

Or is there a more straightforward method of pre-populating a PDF with
values from a database?

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Hello John,

> But that do not change security setting. It still says 
> security standard,
> but password is nothing.

You might also like to make sure that none of the other security
settings are present. These will also result in the Standard security
handler being used.

regards,

Karl De Abrew
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Have a number of docs (total of over 2000 pages) where the customer have
created the PDF's from Quark.

They are all in A3 instead of A4 format, showing 2 A4 pages on each pdf page.
The docs vary from 5 to 50 pages each. Pages are in the right order.

Have only the PDF's and the client cannot find the quark files.

So my question is simple:
 What's the name of the best tool splitting the pages (not only cropping
them visibly, since file size is important).

John

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> Have a number of docs (total of over 2000 pages) where the 
> customer have
> created the PDF's from Quark.
> 
> They are all in A3 instead of A4 format, showing 2 A4 pages 
> on each pdf page.
> The docs vary from 5 to 50 pages each. Pages are in the right order.
> 
> Have only the PDF's and the client cannot find the quark files.
> 
> So my question is simple:
>  What's the name of the best tool splitting the pages (not 
> only cropping
> them visibly, since file size is important).

I don't know of any tools at all that do this (in effect,
un-impose). Nor any method of removing unused objects from the
cropped area (one day I may write one), except redistilling
which may be partially effective.

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Hi Michel,

Have you tried the Ghostscript-Utilities (Ghostview/Ghostwriter/..)
As far as I know are they able to convert some tiff-files directly to one
PDF

They are available for nearly all plattforms (at least Unix and Windows)

Regards,
     Laura Dietz
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Would anybody be aware of a utility that could merge single page PDF image
(that originated from a conversion (through ARTS IMPORT) TIF (single page)
to PDF Image conversion based on a file name convention that would
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a page numbering scheme prior to the DOT???








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hi,

Is it possible to call
java-script on print-method.

I want to calculate one
field on printing command.

thanks

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I would like to ask the list for help.  We would like to implement the use
of fdf without having to pay large amounts of money for a commercial
program (ie x-streem's products for example).  Can somone give me pointers
on what steps to take ti implement the use of these. We have Acrobat 4.0
and forms are vaguely discussed.  If anyone has sample code, etc. that they
could share it would be appreciated.

Much thanks.


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Hello Bruce,

> I would like to ask the list for help.  We would like to 
> implement the use
> of fdf without having to pay large amounts of money for a commercial
> program (ie x-streem's products for example).  Can somone 
> give me pointers
> on what steps to take ti implement the use of these. We have 
> Acrobat 4.0
> and forms are vaguely discussed.  If anyone has sample code, 
> etc. that they
> could share it would be appreciated.

I have outlined the process a little further below, if you need further
assistance, please subscribe to the PDF-dev discussion list - there are
many more people there who will be able to help you out.

In short, you need to do the following:

1. Create a PDF
2. Add the form fields that you want to submit
3. Add a button, and give it "Submit Form" action.
4. Set the URL of the "Submit Form" action to be
"http://your.domain.here/youraspfile.asp#FDF"
5. Create an ASP file that processes the fields in your PDF and return
an FDF file to the browser

I will send you a code sample privately -- once again, you probably
would be best on PDF-dev for this thread.

regards,

Karl De Abrew
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context: NT V4 SP3 workstation with Acrobat V4 Exchange & Reader V4
installed.

We want to insure that Acrobat Reader V4 is the default viewer for PDF & not
Exchange (faster invocation than the full Exchange). How to configure our
PC's in order to associate PDF viewing to Acrobat Reader by default ?

I have tried to install Acrobat Reader after the Acrobat Exchange
installation but Acrobat Exchange is still the default viewer for PDF.

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On 28 May 99, at 18:20, Dachsbeck Philippe wrote about "[PDF] Acrobat V4 Reader coexistence":

> We want to insure that Acrobat Reader V4 is the default viewer for PDF &
> not Exchange (faster invocation than the full Exchange). How to configure
> our PC's in order to associate PDF viewing to Acrobat Reader by default ?

Assuming Windows 95 (you did say PC). Double click on My 
Computer. Go to View > Options. Click on the File Type tab. Look 
for Adobe Acrobat Document. Highlight (click once) that entry, then 
click Edit. Highlight Open, then click Edit. Make sure pathname 
specified for action points to Acrobat Reader. Change if necessary.

After this, double clicking on PDF file should open Reader, not 
full Acrobat.


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Hello,

If you have the ability to control the installation of the two
applications, then just install Reader 4.0 after Acrobat [Exchange] is
installed. When installed in this order, the file type ".pdf" will be
associated with Reader. If you can not control the order of
installation, you change the assocition of the file type to the
application with the following steps:

1. Open the Windows Explorer 
2. Choose View>Options
3. Click on the File Types Tab
4. Scroll to file type "Adobe Acrobat Document"
5. Choose Edit [This will display the "Edit File Type" dialog]
6. Select the "open" action, then click on the "Edit" button
7. Browse to the Reader .exe file
8. Select the exe and choose open. [The "Application used to perform
this action:" path should reflect the change.]
9. Click OK to close the dialogs

I hope this helps!

Regards,
Samantha


Dachsbeck Philippe wrote:
> 
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> context: NT V4 SP3 workstation with Acrobat V4 Exchange & Reader V4
> installed.
> 
> We want to insure that Acrobat Reader V4 is the default viewer for PDF & not
> Exchange (faster invocation than the full Exchange). How to configure our
> PC's in order to associate PDF viewing to Acrobat Reader by default ?
> 
> I have tried to install Acrobat Reader after the Acrobat Exchange
> installation but Acrobat Exchange is still the default viewer for PDF.
> 
> Regards, Philippe
> 
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> How to configure our PC's in order to associate PDF viewing to Acrobat
> Reader by default ?
> 
Phillipe,

Adobe instructed us not to load Reader V3 and Exchange V3 on the same
machine. We were told to use one or the other. They advised there was a
conflict between the 2 products.  
Most of our people were just using Rreader, and here in documentation since
we actualy create pdfs, our docs folks just loaded Exchange.
With the upgrade of Exchange (now called Acrobat V4) and upgrade of systems
to NT 4.0, everyone is running Acrobat (no one has Reader loaded).

Try this. . . 
Open My Computer, select View/Options
Select File Types and check to make sure that the file type PDF is using the
application Reader to view those files.
If it is not, select Reader, select  the Edit button (in the Options
window). Select the Edit button again (in the File Types window).
Then either Browse to find the path to the application (Reader) that you
want to use for the given file type or enter the path (if you know it).

Hope that helps.

Laura M. Hagar
L-245 Documentation
Lockheed Martin Astronautics


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> 
> We want to insure that Acrobat Reader V4 is the default viewer for PDF &
> not
> Exchange (faster invocation than the full Exchange). How to configure our
> PC's in order to associate PDF viewing to Acrobat Reader by default ?
> 
> I have tried to install Acrobat Reader after the Acrobat Exchange
> installation but Acrobat Exchange is still the default viewer for PDF.
> 
> Regards, Philippe
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Okay, thanks to the nice folks at Merlin-OS, I have procured View-Info,
and have added some Custom Info Fields to my PDF files.

I have IFilter 1.1b working with my IIS 4.0 server and Index Server 2.0, I
can search PDF files on the standard info fields, and full text.  What I'd
like to do is search the custom fields, too (which is supposedly possible
with 1.1b)

My first attempt was to just search on the 'Plaintiff' field I'd added to
the PDF file, but I got "No such property" errors from Index Server.  So I
added a line to the [Names] section of the query.idq file I'm using,
establishing a Plaintiff friendly name.  

But I don't get matches on that property.  I was hoping someone who got
this working could help me verify that I'm using the right CLSID registry
key.  Does anyone have custom info field searching working using IIS4.0
and Index Server 2.0 and IFilter 1.1b?  If so, any help would be greatly
appreciated.

  Dann

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Mika,

One thing you could do is using a "Print Me" button which first does the
calculations and then initiates the printing. Another possibility would be
a page open action which does initiate the calculation whenever that page
is opened.

Hope, this can help.

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>Is it possible to call
>java-script on print-method.
>
>I want to calculate one
>field on printing command.
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>thanks
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Due to popular demand, we have reposted the AdobePS 4.2.6
driver to the Adobe web site.

Navigate to:
 ftp://ftp.adobe.com/pub/adobe/printdrivers/win/4.x/

Download files aps426eng.exe and aps426eng.txt.

(Note, temporarily at least, the actual descriptive download
web page is pointing to the wrong file. That is why I suggest
going via ftp protocols.)

AdobePS 4.2.6 is recommended if and only if you need to
generate PDF files via Adobe Acrobat Distiller 3.0x and
are using TrueType fonts. If you do not use TrueType fonts
in your documents, AdobePS 4.3 is recommended. Likewise,
when you upgrade to Acrobat 4 Distiller, you should simultaneously
upgrade to AdobePS 4.3.

Per requests to repost AdobePS 4.1.x, this driver version
will not be reposted. Users who have need to generated PostScript
for legacy devices (Adobe PostScript Level 1 devices, all models 
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Due to popular demand, we have reposted the AdobePS 4.2.6
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Navigate to:

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Download files aps426eng.exe and aps426eng.txt.

(Note, temporarily at least, the actual descriptive download
web page is pointing to the wrong file. That is why I suggest
going via ftp protocols.)

AdobePS 4.2.6 is recommended if and only if you need to
generate PDF files via Adobe Acrobat Distiller 3.0x and
are using TrueType fonts. If you do not use TrueType fonts
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upgrade to AdobePS 4.3.

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Peter,

Your reading (a) is correct:

>	(a) "any number of [Adobe PostScript] printers and an unlimited
>	number of CPUs" means that you can use the software on an unlimited
>	number of CPUs, but only for the purpose of preparing PostScript
>	language data for Adobe PostScript printers;

but your interpretation isn't. The Adobe Acrobat Distiller is considered
a printer contained Adobe PostScript software. It consumes the PostScript
generated by AdobePS. The "mission" of the PostScript so generated is now
complete. You now have a PDF file. There is no legal restriction from Adobe
(or anyone else as far as I know) as to where you may print that PDF file.

In terms of use of the "Add Printer" dialogue in Windows, whether '9X or
NT, it is relatively simple to create an .INF file that would tie a .PPD
(whether for a generic PostScript device or your GhostScript product or
whatever that might consume PostScript) with the driver for use with the
"Add Printer" feature used with PSCRIPT.

Some of Adobe's OEMs have even hacked a .INF to tie a .PPD into AdobePS
to make printer instances. In the general case, you wouldn't want to tell
typical users how to create such .INF files, i.e., "don't try this at home,
your mileage may vary."

You are right that neither you or I are an attorney. However there is no
doubt that PostScript files created by AdobePS can be consumed by any
device or application that features Adobe PostScript, including any and
all Adobe applications such as Acrobat Distiller. The output from such
applications is no longer the original PostScript from AdobePS and is
not subject to its limitations. And via our partnering with Apple and
Microsoft, we have indeed made sure that our driver technology has 
been made widely available. In that sense, we have well met the needs
of users well beyond those of just the users of printers and software
containing Adobe PostScript implementations.

	- Dov



At 5/29/99 03:40 PM , L. Peter Deutsch wrote:
>Thanks to Dov Isaacs for a long and informative phone call clarifying some
>points that hadn't emerged in the previous postings.
>
>First, the good news.
>
>The AdobePS driver per se does not replace the PSCRIPT driver that Microsoft
>bundles with Windows.  Windows ships with PSCRIPT and with (the equivalent
>of) PPDs for many PostScript-language-capable printers: the "Add Printer"
>dialogue installs the combination of PSCRIPT and the appropriate PPD-like
>configuration file.  Thus, installing AdobePS has no effect, either
>functional or legal, on printing with the PSCRIPT-based drivers.
>
>However, this is not the whole story, especially for people who really want
>PDF rather than PostScript output.
>
>Windows' "Add Printer" dialogue doesn't offer a "Generic PostScript printer"
>option.  (I checked both Windows 95 and Windows 98.)  However, "Generic
>PostScript printer" is precisely how the AdobePS driver identifies itself.
>Thus if you want generic PostScript (which is what someone preparing
>PostScript for conversion to PDF would normally want), rather than
>PostScript tailored for a particular printer, you can't get it from the
>PSCRIPT driver -- you must use AdobePS.  The same would normally be true if
>you want to generate platform-independent PostScript for direct viewing on
>the Web (e.g., using Ghostscript, although this is much less useful now that
>PDF is available), or for printing on printers for which no PPD exists
>(e.g., low-cost printers using Ghostscript), or for Web publishing with
>printing on demand by an unspecified printer in the future -- precisely
>those uses for which PostScript's printer independence makes it a format of
>choice.
>
>As Dov noted, when you install AdobePS, you are effectively signing a
>contract -- a legally binding document -- that says you agree to "use the
>Driver Software [only] (i) on any number of printers containing PostScript
>software from Adobe and an unlimited number of CPUs, or (ii) in conjunction
>with the corresponding application software from Adobe with which this
>Driver Software is bundled, regardless of what type of printer you are
>using."  If you download AdobePS by itself from the Web site, (ii) doesn't
>apply, because AdobePS is not bundled with application software.  Now, as
>far as I can see, either
>
>	(a) "any number of [Adobe PostScript] printers and an unlimited
>	number of CPUs" means that you can use the software on an unlimited
>	number of CPUs, but only for the purpose of preparing PostScript
>	language data for Adobe PostScript printers; or
>
>	(b) "any number of [Adobe PostScript] printers and an unlimited
>	number of CPUs" means that you can use the software on an unlimited
>	number of CPUs for any purpose, and you can also use the software to
>	prepare data for Adobe PostScript printers.
>
>(If an attorney has told you that it means something else, please let us
>know.)  If reading (a) is correct, by installing AdobePS, you have signed a
>legal document that says you won't (for example) use AdobePS from the Web
>site to generate PostScript that you then convert to PDF that you intend for
>any purpose other than being printed on Adobe PostScript printers.  If
>reading (b) is correct, you can certainly generate PDF for any purpose you
>want, but then the agreement wouldn't serve the business purpose that Dov
>told me it was intended to serve, namely, preventing Adobe's competitors
>from telling their customers to use AdobePS to generate input for their
>printers.  So Adobe clearly wouldn't adopt reading (b).
>
>Dov assured me that Adobe has no problem with people using AdobePS to
>generate input for Acrobat Distiller -- in fact, he recommends using this
>route, since it produces better PDF than using the PDFwriter driver directly
>-- and I have no doubt that this is the case.  However, that doesn't appear
>to be what the legal contract you signed says.  It appears that Adobe would
>be completely within its legal rights to (for example) warn you that using
>AdobePS to generate input for a Distiller workalike was a violation of that
>contract.
>
>In short, the AdobePS contract gives Adobe a powerful lever against
>competing implementations of the open PDF standard, even if they choose not
>to use it in any given circumstance.
>
>Now, at least some of this situation appears to be due to Microsoft.  (The
>following information is from my conversation with Dov: I hope he will
>correct any factual errors.)  MS and Adobe co-developed the original PSCRIPT
>driver, and Adobe continues to send bug fixes and updates to MS; however, MS
>has been very slow to incorporate them into PSCRIPT.  Also, some newer Adobe
>applications need real PPDs.  While the Windows 95 and later PSCRIPT can use
>PPDs, there is no installer for them, and MS won't let Adobe hook into
>Windows' "Add Printer" dialogue.  Thus for such applications, Adobe needs to
>ship PPDs together with a driver that is sure to work properly with them.
>
>Adobe has been a consistent and strong supporter of open standards, and they
>deserve a lot of credit for this.  I'm much more inclined to trust their
>intentions than I would those of a company that didn't have their track
>record in this area.  Unfortunately, when it comes to contracts, words speak
>louder than intentions.  I think the wording of the AdobePS EULA is an
>unfortunate mistake that could have some very bad consequences if a future
>change in Adobe management took a less enlightened position about enforcing
>it.
>
>Personally, I think Adobe should treat the cost of AdobePS as an amortized
>cost of doing business and building the market, just as they do the cost of
>preparing the excellent specifications for the PostScript language and PDF
>file format, rather than trying to use it as a lever, even against competing
>PostScript language interpreters.  (They recover some of the cost of the
>PostScript documentation by selling the books, but they also make it
>available free on their Web site, and the PDF 1.3 specification is available
>*only* in electronic form, free.)  However, at the very least, I think it is
>very important -- for the PDF community, if no other -- that they reword the
>AdobePS EULA to make it clear that the driver *may* be used for purposes
>other than preparing input for printers.  Until this is done, in my opinion
>there is a potential legal cloud hanging over every user of Distiller or any
>other software that processes PostScript language files, other than the
>software in printers with Adobe PostScript interpreters and perhaps spooling
>or job management software associated with these.
>
>Neither Dov nor I is an attorney, so the above has some element of
>speculation to it; but the EULA language seemed very clear-cut to me.
>
>--
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> which I am using some screen shots.  when I generate PDF's using
> distiller 4.0 the screen shots appear a  bit fuzzy when viewed in  Adobe
> Acrobat reader version 4 and version 3 but they are view able.
> Similarly when printing they are sort of okay when printed from Acrobat
> reader 4.0 but come out as a big mess when printed from Acrobat reader
> 3.0. F.Y.I. I am using Acrobat Exchange 4.0.
>
> I would appreciate if I could get some help on this issue. I want to be
> able to view (Acrobat Reader 3 and 4)and print the screen shots without
> any quality loss.
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At 5/30/99 05:40 PM , L. Peter Deutsch wrote:
>Microsoft does not ship a "generic PostScript printer" PPD/INF, and I do not
>know of any place where an unrestricted one is available.  Thus it seems
>that someone wishing to produce PDF files from Windows currently has these
>options:
>
>	- Print to a specific PSCRIPT-based printer, producing PostScript
>	that is likely to include device dependencies such as
>	resolution-specific fill patterns.
>
>	- Use the PDFwriter driver, which produces inferior PDF.
>
>	- Download AdobePS.  They are then only allowed to process the
>	output with Adobe Distiller, not another implementation of the
>	supposedly open and vendor-neutral PostScript and PDF standards.
>
>> In terms of use of the "Add Printer" dialogue in Windows, whether '9X or
>> NT, it is relatively simple to create an .INF file that would tie a .PPD
>> (whether for a generic PostScript device or your GhostScript product or
>> whatever that might consume PostScript) with the driver for use with the
>> "Add Printer" feature used with PSCRIPT.
>
>I strongly urge Adobe to create such .INF and .PPD files and make them
>available to Microsoft and (until Microsoft bundles it with Windows) for
>UNRESTRICTED downloading and use.  Since it would be "generic", it would not
>be of interest to non-Adobe-licensee printer manufacturers and would not
>affect sales of printers containing Adobe PostScript interpreters.
>
>Of course, a third party could do this just as well as Adobe.  If it's
>really that simple, I wonder why no one has done it?  I suspect it's at
>least partly because people wishing to produce PDF aren't aware of the legal
>trap they are walking into if they use the (recommended) AdobePS driver to
>produce input for a PostScript-to-PDF converter other than Acrobat
>Distiller.  Hopefully, the messages on this thread have helped raise
>awareness of this point.
>
>> In that sense, we have well met the needs of users well beyond those of
>> just the users of printers and software containing Adobe PostScript
>> implementations.
>
>With respect to users who wish to produce PDF, I must respectfully disagree.
>

Virtually every writer of PostScript emulators seems to be able to be
able to create such a combination of .INF and .PPD files for their
devices (for Windows) or just a .PPD (for Mac). You can get information
on how to create .INF files from Microsoft. The PPD specification is
posted by Adobe.

If you wish for there to be a "generic PostScript" PPD or .INF and .PPD
combination for installation with the Windows PSCRIPT drivers, why don't
you create it and put it into the public domain? Nothing stopping you!

And I believe others haven't created such a generic PPD because it does 
nothing at all for their particular products. For better or worse, PostScript
is device DEPENDENT when it comes to controlling the device. Suppliers of 
devices with Adobe PostScript as well as emulations want PostScript
generated to be optimal for their devices in terms of available resolutions,
trays, paper handling options, etc.

In terms of "the (recommended) AdobePS driver", Adobe doesn't recommend
use of AdobePS for anything other than what it is licensed for. We are not
trying to fool or trap anyone. A third party supplier of a "PostScript to PDF"
conversion program has every legal right to write .INF and .PPD files to
allow use of the PSCRIPT (Windows) and LaserWriter (Mac) drivers with
their devices and to provide information to users on how to use same.
What you are asking for, in effect, if for Adobe to not only give away
PSCRIPT and LaserWriter, but also its "private label" versions of same.
Considering that we have opened everything else up including the PostScript
language and PPD specs as well as having subsidized the standard Windows 
and Mac drivers, I think asking for our private label version for use
with clones and without even buying our applications strikes me as a
bit of chutzpah!

I guess we will agree only to disagree on this issue.

	- Dov

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Dann,

>From memory searching on Custom Fields was still a non-event.

I hate to dob people in but .... Thomas Merz should know the answer to this
question or may know of a workaround (Thomas are you listening?? -
mailto:tm@muc.de)).... 

His book "Web Publishing With Acrobat" has a section on IFilter, and I'm
sure it mentions something about this very topic.

Hope this helps.

Dave ........
------------------------------

> I have IFilter 1.1b working with my IIS 4.0 server and Index Server 2.0, I
> can search PDF files on the standard info fields, and full text.  What I'd
> like to do is search the custom fields, too (which is supposedly possible
> with 1.1b)
> 
> My first attempt was to just search on the 'Plaintiff' field I'd added to
> the PDF file, but I got "No such property" errors from Index Server.  So I
> added a line to the [Names] section of the query.idq file I'm using,
> establishing a Plaintiff friendly name.  
> 
> But I don't get matches on that property.  I was hoping someone who got
> this working could help me verify that I'm using the right CLSID registry
> key.  Does anyone have custom info field searching working using IIS4.0
> and Index Server 2.0 and IFilter 1.1b?  If so, any help would be greatly
> appreciated.

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I'd say Aandi is right here, there isn't a tool that can do what you want...

Perhaps one solution would be to create a copy of the PDF then CROP ALL
PAGES on the LEFT side, then go back to the original PDF then CROP ALL PAGES
but this time on the RIGHT side (OPTIMIZE both files to completely remove
the cropped areas).

This may go a little way to solve the problem,  you would then only have to
shuffle pages around using the thumbnails to ensure page numbering etc...

Dave ..........
------------------------

> > Have a number of docs (total of over 2000 pages) where the 
> > customer have
> > created the PDF's from Quark.
> > 
> > They are all in A3 instead of A4 format, showing 2 A4 pages 
> > on each pdf page.
> > The docs vary from 5 to 50 pages each. Pages are in the right order.
> > 
> > Have only the PDF's and the client cannot find the quark files.
> > 
> > So my question is simple:
> >  What's the name of the best tool splitting the pages (not 
> > only cropping
> > them visibly, since file size is important).
> 
>> I don't know of any tools at all that do this (in effect,
>> un-impose). Nor any method of removing unused objects from the
>> cropped area (one day I may write one), except redistilling
>> which may be partially effective.
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At 5/30/99 10:03 PM , L. Peter Deutsch wrote:
><snip>
>In our phone discussion, I understood you to say that Adobe has fed
>Microsoft enough bug fixes and updates since PSCRIPT co-development per se
>ended in '95 that Microsoft could create a version of their PSCRIPT driver
>that was essentially on a par with AdobePS.  Which is true?  That Adobe
>values the features of AdobePS enough to keep them tied to Adobe
>interpreters, and to not make them available (to Microsoft or anyone else)
>for unrestricted use?  Or that it does want to make them potentially
>available to all Windows users on an unrestricted basis, through Microsoft
>and PSCRIPT updates?  Or did I misinterpret your comments?

Microsoft has all the bug fixes necessary to fix any problems in PSCRIPT
that were found and fixed in AdobePS. When and how they release this is
up to them, NOT Adobe. I do not know when they will release an update. Apple
releases updates to LaserWriter quite often, reflecting fixes that both
Apple and Adobe make in the common code.

If you have concerns about Microsoft's schedule for fixes for PSCRIPT,
please contact them directly and express that concern to them.

>> Considering that we have opened everything else up including the
>> PostScript language and PPD specs as well as having subsidized the
>
>You (Adobe) did that because you had the wisdom to understand that it would
>grow the market more rapidly, and that a somewhat smaller share of a larger
>and more rapidly growing market was the better business choice.  I think
>this is still the better choice.  Obviously you, and at least some other
>decision-makers at Adobe, don't agree.

I am not the decision maker on this. What I believe is irrelevant here.
What is true is that in terms of the basic ability to generate PostScript
via drivers is indeed available to ALL Macintosh and Windows users, regardless
of whose PostScript interpretation technology they print to, through
drivers developed via collaboration between Adobe and OS developers.

><snip>
>> I guess we will agree only to disagree on this issue.
>
>I guess so.  That's unfortunate, since it means Aladdin will have to arrange
>for the development of something (Open Source generic .INF and .PPD files)
>that Adobe could produce much more easily -- indeed, probably *has* produced
>as part of the AdobePS package.  It's not the money I object to: it's the
>pointless duplication of effort.

It certainly shouldn't set you back very much. It isn't rocket science
and should require only a few hours of work, at most, including QA.
Your biggest task is really to determine how many features, resolutions,
etc. will be available through such a generic PPD.

Yes, producing your own INF and PPD are "duplication of effort" but so
is writing one's own PostScript interpreters which of course is many orders
of magnitude more work. So is the task of writing a full PostScript driver
(yet some PostScript emulation providers, such as Lexmark do indeed provide
their own PostScript drivers to "differentiate" their product from others).
C'est la vie and that is business and competition. 

	- Dov

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> If you wish for there to be a "generic PostScript" PPD or .INF and .PPD
> combination for installation with the Windows PSCRIPT drivers, why don't
> you create it and put it into the public domain? Nothing stopping you!

I agree.  If I knew enough about Windows and .INF files to do so, I would do
so forthwith.  Since I don't, I'll have to be satisfied with helping make it
happen.

> For better or worse, PostScript is device DEPENDENT when it comes to
> controlling the device.

For printers, to some extent I agree.  As a precursor to PDF, I think this
is much less true.

> In terms of "the (recommended) AdobePS driver", Adobe doesn't recommend
> use of AdobePS for anything other than what it is licensed for.

Adobe recommends the use of AdobePS for producing input to Acrobat
Distiller.  Someone who hadn't followed the discussion on this thread might
easily take that as a recommendation for using AdobePS to produce input for
PostScript-to-PDF conversion software in general (which, on purely technical
grounds, is appropriate), especially since the other two alternatives I
named for getting PDF on Windows (PostScript from printer-associated
drivers, and PDFwriter) are clearly inferior.  I agree that Adobe doesn't
make recommendations for producing input to non-Adobe software per se.

> What you are asking for, in effect, if for Adobe to not only give away
> PSCRIPT and LaserWriter, but also its "private label" versions of same.

In our phone discussion, I understood you to say that Adobe has fed
Microsoft enough bug fixes and updates since PSCRIPT co-development per se
ended in '95 that Microsoft could create a version of their PSCRIPT driver
that was essentially on a par with AdobePS.  Which is true?  That Adobe
values the features of AdobePS enough to keep them tied to Adobe
interpreters, and to not make them available (to Microsoft or anyone else)
for unrestricted use?  Or that it does want to make them potentially
available to all Windows users on an unrestricted basis, through Microsoft
and PSCRIPT updates?  Or did I misinterpret your comments?

> Considering that we have opened everything else up including the
> PostScript language and PPD specs as well as having subsidized the
> standard Windows and Mac drivers,

You (Adobe) did that because you had the wisdom to understand that it would
grow the market more rapidly, and that a somewhat smaller share of a larger
and more rapidly growing market was the better business choice.  I think
this is still the better choice.  Obviously you, and at least some other
decision-makers at Adobe, don't agree.

> I think asking for our private label version for use with clones and
> without even buying our applications strikes me as a bit of chutzpah!

In my previous message, I asked only for a .INF and a .PPD file, which you
said were "relatively simple to create".  Regarding the "private label
version", see above.

> I guess we will agree only to disagree on this issue.

I guess so.  That's unfortunate, since it means Aladdin will have to arrange
for the development of something (Open Source generic .INF and .PPD files)
that Adobe could produce much more easily -- indeed, probably *has* produced
as part of the AdobePS package.  It's not the money I object to: it's the
pointless duplication of effort.

If anyone reading this list would like to develop, or share in the
development of, or share in funding the development of, such files, which
would allow users to produce technically suitable PostScript output from
Windows with the legal freedom of choice to use non-Adobe PostScript-to-PDF
software, please e-mail me privately.  Also, if Adobe has already created
such files, and would like to discuss a one-time payment to release them as
Open Source, please e-mail me privately.

				Thanks -

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> If you wish for there to be a "generic PostScript" PPD or .INF and .PPD
> combination for installation with the Windows PSCRIPT drivers, why don't
> you create it and put it into the public domain? Nothing stopping you!

I agree.  If I knew enough about Windows and .INF files to do so, I would do
so forthwith.  Since I don't, I'll have to be satisfied with helping make it
happen.

> For better or worse, PostScript is device DEPENDENT when it comes to
> controlling the device.

For printers, to some extent I agree.  As a precursor to PDF, I think this
is much less true.

> In terms of "the (recommended) AdobePS driver", Adobe doesn't recommend
> use of AdobePS for anything other than what it is licensed for.

Adobe recommends the use of AdobePS for producing input to Acrobat
Distiller.  Someone who hadn't followed the discussion on this thread might
easily take that as a recommendation for using AdobePS to produce input for
PostScript-to-PDF conversion software in general (which, on purely technical
grounds, is appropriate), especially since the other two alternatives I
named for getting PDF on Windows (PostScript from printer-associated
drivers, and PDFwriter) are clearly inferior.  I agree that Adobe doesn't
make recommendations for producing input to non-Adobe software per se.

> What you are asking for, in effect, if for Adobe to not only give away
> PSCRIPT and LaserWriter, but also its "private label" versions of same.

In our phone discussion, I understood you to say that Adobe has fed
Microsoft enough bug fixes and updates since PSCRIPT co-development per se
ended in '95 that Microsoft could create a version of their PSCRIPT driver
that was essentially on a par with AdobePS.  Which is true?  That Adobe
values the features of AdobePS enough to keep them tied to Adobe
interpreters, and to not make them available (to Microsoft or anyone else)
for unrestricted use?  Or that it does want to make them potentially
available to all Windows users on an unrestricted basis, through Microsoft
and PSCRIPT updates?  Or did I misinterpret your comments?

> Considering that we have opened everything else up including the
> PostScript language and PPD specs as well as having subsidized the
> standard Windows and Mac drivers,

You (Adobe) did that because you had the wisdom to understand that it would
grow the market more rapidly, and that a somewhat smaller share of a larger
and more rapidly growing market was the better business choice.  I think
this is still the better choice.  Obviously you, and at least some other
decision-makers at Adobe, don't agree.

> I think asking for our private label version for use with clones and
> without even buying our applications strikes me as a bit of chutzpah!

In my previous message, I asked only for a .INF and a .PPD file, which you
said were "relatively simple to create".  Regarding the "private label
version", see above.

> I guess we will agree only to disagree on this issue.

I guess so.  That's unfortunate, since it means Aladdin will have to arrange
for the development of something (Open Source generic .INF and .PPD files)
that Adobe could produce much more easily -- indeed, probably *has* produced
as part of the AdobePS package.  It's not the money I object to: it's the
pointless duplication of effort.

If anyone reading this list would like to develop, or share in the
development of, or share in funding the development of, such files, which
would allow users to produce technically suitable PostScript output from
Windows with the legal freedom of choice to use non-Adobe PostScript-to-PDF
software, please e-mail me privately.  Also, if Adobe has already created
such files, and would like to discuss a one-time payment to release them as
Open Source, please e-mail me privately.

				Thanks -

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> Microsoft has all the bug fixes necessary to fix any problems in PSCRIPT
> that were found and fixed in AdobePS.

I asked about both updates (enhancements) and bug fixes.  Your reply
apparently covers only bug fixes.  It appears that I did misinterpret your
comments, and Adobe does have enhancements and features in AdobePS that are
not shared with Microsoft.

> Yes, producing your own INF and PPD are "duplication of effort" but so is
> writing one's own PostScript interpreters which of course is many orders
> of magnitude more work.

The reason it is pointless is that it will leave Adobe in essentially the
same business position as if Adobe had released the generic INF and PPD that
Adobe has already written.  That is unlike the situation with independent
implementations of the PostScript language: in my opinion, the INF and PPD
files have no strategic business value of their own, and an independent
implementation is not likely to be significantly different from (offer an
interesting arena for competition with) Adobe's own.

> So is the task of writing a full PostScript driver (yet some PostScript
> emulation providers, such as Lexmark do indeed provide their own
> PostScript drivers to "differentiate" their product from others).  C'est
> la vie and that is business and competition.

Sometimes making technology open is a better business choice.  We have
agreed to disagree on whether that is the case for a generic .INF/.PPD
(.WPD) file.  Adobe's business model is so heavily based on non-open
PostScript interpreters that I know I would be wasting my time to make the
argument there, and in any case, Ghostscript provides a commercial-quality
Open Source alternative.  As for PostScript drivers, in my opinion Adobe's
case is considerably weakened by the statement that "we have well met the
needs of users well beyond those of just the users of printers and software
containing Adobe PostScript implementations": the release and continued
support (in the sense of providing bug fixes to Microsoft) of the PSCRIPT
driver indicates that Adobe considers it in their own interests to have a
good-quality, unrestricted-use, free-of-end-user-charge PostScript driver
widely available.

Note that release of AdobePS as Open Source would destroy the ability of
Adobe's competitors to use the PostScript driver as a differentiator.
(Release of PSCRIPT would eventually do the same, but that would require
Microsoft's assent.)  I don't expect Adobe to be receptive to that argument,
either, but I thought it was worth mentioning.

An Open Source generic .INF/.PPD (.WPD) will address enough of my remaining
concerns about users' ability to choose among PostScript-to-PDF
alternatives, and it sounds like it won't be difficult to produce.  Thanks
very much for taking the time to discuss these issues.  I continue to have
great respect for Adobe, and for their support of open standards.

-- 

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> Microsoft has all the bug fixes necessary to fix any problems in PSCRIPT
> that were found and fixed in AdobePS.

I asked about both updates (enhancements) and bug fixes.  Your reply
apparently covers only bug fixes.  It appears that I did misinterpret your
comments, and Adobe does have enhancements and features in AdobePS that are
not shared with Microsoft.

> Yes, producing your own INF and PPD are "duplication of effort" but so is
> writing one's own PostScript interpreters which of course is many orders
> of magnitude more work.

The reason it is pointless is that it will leave Adobe in essentially the
same business position as if Adobe had released the generic INF and PPD that
Adobe has already written.  That is unlike the situation with independent
implementations of the PostScript language: in my opinion, the INF and PPD
files have no strategic business value of their own, and an independent
implementation is not likely to be significantly different from (offer an
interesting arena for competition with) Adobe's own.

> So is the task of writing a full PostScript driver (yet some PostScript
> emulation providers, such as Lexmark do indeed provide their own
> PostScript drivers to "differentiate" their product from others).  C'est
> la vie and that is business and competition.

Sometimes making technology open is a better business choice.  We have
agreed to disagree on whether that is the case for a generic .INF/.PPD
(.WPD) file.  Adobe's business model is so heavily based on non-open
PostScript interpreters that I know I would be wasting my time to make the
argument there, and in any case, Ghostscript provides a commercial-quality
Open Source alternative.  As for PostScript drivers, in my opinion Adobe's
case is considerably weakened by the statement that "we have well met the
needs of users well beyond those of just the users of printers and software
containing Adobe PostScript implementations": the release and continued
support (in the sense of providing bug fixes to Microsoft) of the PSCRIPT
driver indicates that Adobe considers it in their own interests to have a
good-quality, unrestricted-use, free-of-end-user-charge PostScript driver
widely available.

Note that release of AdobePS as Open Source would destroy the ability of
Adobe's competitors to use the PostScript driver as a differentiator.
(Release of PSCRIPT would eventually do the same, but that would require
Microsoft's assent.)  I don't expect Adobe to be receptive to that argument,
either, but I thought it was worth mentioning.

An Open Source generic .INF/.PPD (.WPD) will address enough of my remaining
concerns about users' ability to choose among PostScript-to-PDF
alternatives, and it sounds like it won't be difficult to produce.  Thanks
very much for taking the time to discuss these issues.  I continue to have
great respect for Adobe, and for their support of open standards.

-- 

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203 Santa Margarita Ave. | tel. +1-650-322-0103 (AM only); fax +1-650-322-1734
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Hi Dov,

Can you tell me whats the advantage of the new version especially
concerning true type fonts?
(yes, we do use Distiller 3.0x and TTFs)

regards,
     Laura Dietz

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AdobePS 4.2.6 is recommended if and only if you need to
generate PDF files via Adobe Acrobat Distiller 3.0x and
are using TrueType fonts. If you do not use TrueType fonts
in your documents, AdobePS 4.3 is recommended. Likewise,
when you upgrade to Acrobat 4 Distiller, you should simultaneously
upgrade to AdobePS 4.3.










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AdobePS 4.3 fixes a number of bugs associated with 4.2.x, especially
with regards to use of TrueType fonts with Acrobat. But, these
fixes only help Acrobat 4.0 Distiller. If you are still using
Acrobat 3.0x Distiller, don't upgrade the driver yet.

	- Dov


At 5/31/99 03:47 AM , Laura.Dietz@arcor.net wrote:
>Hi Dov,
>
>Can you tell me whats the advantage of the new version especially
>concerning true type fonts?
>(yes, we do use Distiller 3.0x and TTFs)
>
>regards,
>     Laura Dietz
>
>
>Dov Isaacs <isaacs@Adobe.COM>
>28.05.99 18:39
>
>Bitte antworten an pdf@lists.pdfzone.com
>
>An:
>Kopie:   (Blindkopie: Laura Dietz/FIO_EXT/Eschborn/Arcor)
>Thema:  [PDF] AdobePS 4.X PostScript Driver Information Update
>
>
>
>
>
>
>AdobePS 4.2.6 is recommended if and only if you need to
>generate PDF files via Adobe Acrobat Distiller 3.0x and
>are using TrueType fonts. If you do not use TrueType fonts
>in your documents, AdobePS 4.3 is recommended. Likewise,
>when you upgrade to Acrobat 4 Distiller, you should simultaneously
>upgrade to AdobePS 4.3.


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