1-Jun-1999 17:34:21-GMT,1679;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id LAA13114 for ; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 11:34:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA02522; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 12:25:08 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 1 Jun 1999 12:17:36 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA01633; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 12:17:34 -0500 From: Jason_Feeney@notes.ymp.gov Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 10:13:31 -0700 Subject: [PDF] need pdf to photoshop help To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-id: <88256783.005EEEC7.00@ymln11.ymp.gov> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline X-Lotus-FromDomain: CRWMS Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM ____________________________________________________________ Hello all, I was wondering if anyone could help me with this problem. I am trying to pull a page out of my pdf in to Adobe Photoshop 5.02. The text comes in fine. However I am working with document with lots of equations and figures. When I open my pdf in Photoshop I have missing characters like degree symbols and many other symbols that don't convert. Does anyone know how to fix this? Thanks. ____ No ads here this week: Our thanks to PDF list subscribers _____ 1-Jun-1999 17:44:41-GMT,2329;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id LAA13412 for ; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 11:44:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA04170; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 12:41:02 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 1 Jun 1999 12:39:45 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA04050; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 12:39:44 -0500 X-Server-Uuid: fc96bae8-3f98-11d2-a40d-00805f199815 Message-ID: From: "Kinstle, Joel" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] need pdf to photoshop help Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 12:39:29 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) X-WSS-ID: 1B4AC6311956654-01-01 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM ____________________________________________________________ A somewhat inelegant solution would be to use the 'export to EPS' function of Exchange (or Adobe Acrobat, depending on version number, and assuming, of course, you have Exchange or the full Acrobat) and then open that EPS in Photoshop. If that works, you at least know where the error is occurring and have a workaround. If it doesn't, you've got a better idea that the error is somewhere closer to your PDF source than your conversion routines. Joel Kinstle Jason Feeney had asked: > I was wondering if anyone could help me with this problem. I am trying to > pull > a page out of my pdf in to Adobe Photoshop 5.02. The text comes in fine. > However I am working with document with lots of equations and figures. > When I > open my pdf in Photoshop I have missing characters like degree symbols and > many > other symbols that don't convert. Does anyone know how to fix this? > ____ No ads here this week: Our thanks to PDF list subscribers _____ 1-Jun-1999 17:49:56-GMT,2157;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id LAA13559 for ; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 11:49:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA04678; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 12:45:28 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 1 Jun 1999 12:44:15 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA04505; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 12:44:15 -0500 Message-ID: <37541C78.AABAA2BF@scenicsoft.com> Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 10:46:32 -0700 From: Samantha Bailey X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] need pdf to photoshop help References: <88256783.005EEEC7.00@ymln11.ymp.gov> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM ____________________________________________________________ Jason, You might try expoting an EPS from the Acrobat viewer, then opening the EPS in Photoshop. Reagrds, Samantha Jason_Feeney@notes.ymp.gov wrote: > > The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM > ____________________________________________________________ > > Hello all, > > I was wondering if anyone could help me with this problem. I am trying to pull > a page out of my pdf in to Adobe Photoshop 5.02. The text comes in fine. > However I am working with document with lots of equations and figures. When I > open my pdf in Photoshop I have missing characters like degree symbols and many > other symbols that don't convert. Does anyone know how to fix this? > > Thanks. > > ____ No ads here this week: Our thanks to PDF list subscribers _____ ____ No ads here this week: Our thanks to PDF list subscribers _____ 1-Jun-1999 18:29:58-GMT,2451;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id MAA14823 for ; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 12:29:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA07989; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 13:22:07 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 1 Jun 1999 13:20:26 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA07804; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 13:20:24 -0500 Message-Id: <199906011820.LAA85802@mail.inficad.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 11:20:16 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] need pdf to photoshop help From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM ____________________________________________________________ > Hello all, > > I was wondering if anyone could help me with this problem. I am trying to > pull a page out of my pdf in to Adobe Photoshop 5.02. The text comes in fine. > However I am working with document with lots of equations and figures. When I > open my pdf in Photoshop I have missing characters like degree symbols and > > many other symbols that don't convert. Does anyone know how to fix this? > > Thanks. You can try two things: One, open the document in Acrobat and use the copy graphic tool to copy the portion or page that you want. Open a new Photoshop document and paste. Two, export the file from Acrobat as an eps file, and open in Photoshop. This is possibly a less reliable method, if you are already having font problems. Good luck. Rich ---------------------------------------------------------------- Rich Sprague PDF & Digital Printing Solutions (480) 860-0050 richsprague@inficad.com Check out my new website: http://www.inficad.com/~richsprague ---------------------------------------------------------------- ____ No ads here this week: Our thanks to PDF list subscribers _____ 1-Jun-1999 18:57:27-GMT,3062;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id MAA15621 for ; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 12:57:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA10590; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 13:50:12 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 1 Jun 1999 13:48:57 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA10442; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 13:48:56 -0500 Message-ID: <37542A26.FED305D5@lauterkranz.com> Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 20:44:54 +0200 From: Richard Lauterkranz X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] need pdf to photoshop help References: <199906011820.LAA85802@mail.inficad.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM ____________________________________________________________ Hi I do this using Transverter Pro by techpool software. This is a soft-rip that lets you rip your pdfs into EPS, TIFF, PS(single pages) etc. You can convert all the type to outline while ripping. So there will be no problem importing in Photoshop. Rich Sprague wrote: > The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM > ____________________________________________________________ > > > Hello all, > > > > I was wondering if anyone could help me with this problem. I am trying to > > pull a page out of my pdf in to Adobe Photoshop 5.02. The text comes in fine. > > However I am working with document with lots of equations and figures. When I > > open my pdf in Photoshop I have missing characters like degree symbols and > > > many other symbols that don't convert. Does anyone know how to fix this? > > > > Thanks. > > You can try two things: > > One, open the document in Acrobat and use the copy graphic tool to copy the > portion or page that you want. Open a new Photoshop document and paste. > > Two, export the file from Acrobat as an eps file, and open in Photoshop. > This is possibly a less reliable method, if you are already having font > problems. > > Good luck. > > Rich > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > Rich Sprague PDF & Digital Printing Solutions > (480) 860-0050 richsprague@inficad.com > Check out my new website: http://www.inficad.com/~richsprague > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > > ____ No ads here this week: Our thanks to PDF list subscribers _____ ____ No ads here this week: Our thanks to PDF list subscribers _____ 1-Jun-1999 18:44:17-GMT,3590;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id MAA15246 for ; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 12:44:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA09402; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 13:38:14 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 1 Jun 1999 13:36:17 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA09191; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 13:36:10 -0500 Message-ID: <375429B1.9D354ABA@pre-print.com> Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 12:43:00 -0600 From: Gunnar X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] need pdf to photoshop help References: <199906011820.LAA85802@mail.inficad.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM ____________________________________________________________ Good afternoon, and there is one other possibility to exporting from Acrobat or copying and pasting. You will need to have the symbol font in your system (if it's not, then you're stuck with exporting the page from Exchange with fonts embedded -- and I'm not certain that will work). You can open the page required from the PDF in Illustrator (Illustrator will only open a single page at a time; fortunately it will give you the choice when you open PDF files -- it won't with PostScript). Next, you may wish to render all of the type as outlines. ReSave the page as an EPS (now this sounds familiar again). Open the resulting file in PhotoShop. I think this completes your list of options. Rich Sprague wrote: > The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM > ____________________________________________________________ > > > Hello all, > > > > I was wondering if anyone could help me with this problem. I am trying to > > pull a page out of my pdf in to Adobe Photoshop 5.02. The text comes in fine. > > However I am working with document with lots of equations and figures. When I > > open my pdf in Photoshop I have missing characters like degree symbols and > > > many other symbols that don't convert. Does anyone know how to fix this? > > > > Thanks. > > You can try two things: > > One, open the document in Acrobat and use the copy graphic tool to copy the > portion or page that you want. Open a new Photoshop document and paste. > > Two, export the file from Acrobat as an eps file, and open in Photoshop. > This is possibly a less reliable method, if you are already having font > problems. > > Good luck. > > Rich > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > Rich Sprague PDF & Digital Printing Solutions > (480) 860-0050 richsprague@inficad.com > Check out my new website: http://www.inficad.com/~richsprague > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > > ____ No ads here this week: Our thanks to PDF list subscribers _____ -- Most respectfully, Gunnar Blodgett Production Analyst Pre Print, Inc. (780) 488-6688 x 338 ____ No ads here this week: Our thanks to PDF list subscribers _____ 1-Jun-1999 19:08:04-GMT,2469;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id NAA15951 for ; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 13:07:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA11632; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 13:59:34 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 1 Jun 1999 13:58:19 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA11388; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 13:58:15 -0500 From: "C. Scott Miller" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] need pdf to photoshop help Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 12:02:02 -0700 Message-ID: <000101beac61$63c654e0$2e3cfea9@w151c> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <88256783.005EEEC7.00@ymln11.ymp.gov> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM ____________________________________________________________ >I am trying to pull >a page out of my pdf in to Adobe Photoshop 5.02. The text comes in fine. >However I am working with document with lots of equations and figures. When I >open my pdf in Photoshop I have missing characters like degree symbols and many >other symbols that don't convert. Does anyone know how to fix this? Opening PDFs in Photoshop effectively re-rasterizes the vector and font information, which is risky and can result in the problems you experienced. If the file looks correct in Acrobat (Exchange) then open the file in it and use the Graphic Selection tool to marquee the area you wish to bitmap (or select all to get the whole page). Copy and paste into Photoshop and flatten. The resolution of your bitmap will depend the level of zoom you are in when you marquee the area. -- HTH, C. Scott Miller PDF R_e_s_e_a_r_c_h__C_o_m_p_a_n_i_o_n A Designer's Guide to Adobe's Portable Document Format http://www.performancegraphics.com ____ No ads here this week: Our thanks to PDF list subscribers _____ 1-Jun-1999 19:47:07-GMT,1896;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id NAA17045 for ; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 13:47:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA15028; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 14:39:23 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 1 Jun 1999 14:36:25 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA14708; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 14:36:23 -0500 Message-ID: <3754361D.B4C0B7AD@adobe.com> Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 12:35:57 -0700 From: Roberto Perelman Organization: Adobe Systems Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Pre-populating interactive PDF's References: <507A405B779ED211B0FA00105A2876330656E6@COMMS_SERVER> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM ____________________________________________________________ You could do a submit on page open (Document->Set Page Action) MartinB wrote: > I am using ASPs, PDF and the FDF Toolkit for ActiveX. I can create a > PDF form with a button that submits FDF to an ASP page for processing, > then writes back to the PDF form. How do I call an ASP page when the > form first loads, in order to write initial values for data to the form? > > Or is there a more straightforward method of pre-populating a PDF with > values from a database? ____ No ads here this week: Our thanks to PDF list subscribers _____ 1-Jun-1999 19:47:18-GMT,2325;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id NAA17051 for ; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 13:47:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA15136; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 14:40:17 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 1 Jun 1999 14:39:08 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA14992; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 14:39:07 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990601154140.00864920@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 15:41:40 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] need pdf to photoshop help In-Reply-To: <88256783.005EEEC7.00@ymln11.ymp.gov> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM ____________________________________________________________ >I was wondering if anyone could help me with this problem. I am trying to pull >a page out of my pdf in to Adobe Photoshop 5.02. The text comes in fine. >However I am working with document with lots of equations and figures. When I >open my pdf in Photoshop I have missing characters like degree symbols and many >other symbols that don't convert. Does anyone know how to fix this? > I'm not sure about Photoshop, but the preview rasterizer in PageMaker thinks its running on a Mac, even if the PC says Windows at bootup. It has a tendency to misplace characters that aren't identically encoded on both platforms. You might be looking at a similar problem. Have you tried printing to a PS file and letting Photoshop chew on that? Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm ____ No ads here this week: Our thanks to PDF list subscribers _____ 1-Jun-1999 19:59:38-GMT,5487;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id NAA17436 for ; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 13:59:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA16231; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 14:53:44 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 1 Jun 1999 14:52:36 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA16129; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 14:52:35 -0500 Message-ID: From: Robert Porter To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Pre-populating interactive PDF's Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 15:52:22 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01BEAC68.466EC696" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM ____________________________________________________________ This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01BEAC68.466EC696 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Another method of pre-populating a PDF form is by creating an FDF file on the fly with the initial values for the data, set it's File tag to the PDF file you want to open, and send it to the client web browser. This will open the PDF file with the data contained in the FDF file. Make sure you set the MIME types so that the web browser will know to open a .fdf file with Acrobat/Reader. robert v porter iv senior applications developer renaissance interactive, inc. -----Original Message----- From: Roberto Perelman [mailto:rperelma@Adobe.COM] Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 1999 3:36 PM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Pre-populating interactive PDF's The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM ____________________________________________________________ You could do a submit on page open (Document->Set Page Action) MartinB wrote: > I am using ASPs, PDF and the FDF Toolkit for ActiveX. I can create a > PDF form with a button that submits FDF to an ASP page for processing, > then writes back to the PDF form. How do I call an ASP page when the > form first loads, in order to write initial values for data to the form? > > Or is there a more straightforward method of pre-populating a PDF with > values from a database? ____ No ads here this week: Our thanks to PDF list subscribers _____ ------_=_NextPart_001_01BEAC68.466EC696 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: [PDF] Pre-populating interactive PDF's

Another method of pre-populating a PDF form is by = creating an FDF file on the fly with the initial values for the data, = set it's File tag to the PDF file you want to open, and send it to the = client web browser.  This will open the PDF file with the data = contained in the FDF file.  Make sure you set the MIME types so = that the web browser will know to open a .fdf file with Acrobat/Reader. =

robert v porter iv
senior applications developer
renaissance interactive, inc.

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You could do a submit on page open (Document->Set = Page Action)

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> I am using ASPs, PDF and the FDF Toolkit for = ActiveX.  I can create a
> PDF form with a button that submits FDF to an = ASP page for processing,
> then writes back to the PDF form.  How do = I call an ASP page when the
> form first loads, in order to write initial = values for data to the form?
>
> Or is there a more straightforward method of = pre-populating a PDF with
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------_=_NextPart_001_01BEAC68.466EC696-- ____ No ads here this week: Our thanks to PDF list subscribers _____ 1-Jun-1999 20:49:44-GMT,2022;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id OAA19102 for ; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 14:49:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA20174; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 15:41:32 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 1 Jun 1999 15:38:51 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA19970; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 15:38:48 -0500 Message-Id: From: "Callaway, Rebecca" To: "pdf@lists.pdfzone.com" Subject: RE: [PDF] PDF Service Bureaus Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 13:36:41 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.996.62 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM ____________________________________________________________ Duff - Thanks for the hot tips. Yes, I received about 7 responses. Your ideas will certainly help. We are visiting our first this week!! rebecca >-----Original Message----- >From: Duff Johnson [SMTP:DuffJ@document-solutions.com] >Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 1999 10:11 AM >To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' >Subject: RE: [PDF] PDF Service Bureaus > >The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM >____________________________________________________________ > >Rebecca: > >I'm sure you've been bombed with mail by now.... Here are some of Duff's >Tips for how to approach and what to look for in a service bureau. > >How to approach a Service Bureau... [Callaway, Rebecca] _____ ____ No ads here this week: Our thanks to PDF list subscribers _____ 2-Jun-1999 1:44:01-GMT,3305;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id TAA27443 for ; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 19:43:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA08278; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 20:39:27 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 1 Jun 1999 20:38:08 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA08133; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 20:38:04 -0500 Message-ID: <37547CEA.104716A2@showads.com.au> Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 11:38:12 +1100 From: "Stephen Smith" Organization: Show Ads X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] ANNOUNCE - PDF in Prepress mailing list! References: <199906020100.SAA23368@sun630mp.infomania.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM ____________________________________________________________ Tom, Well done. Tom Mornini wrote: > The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM > ____________________________________________________________ > > I am pleased to announce pdf-prepress-l. > > Earlier there were several messages on pdf-l indicating that > people would prefer a separate mailing list for PDF use in prepress. > > I suggested that I could help, or perhaps run myself, a list for > PDF use in high-end prepress environments. Response was very > positive, so I decided to put back on my list manager hat, and > set up a new list. > > The name of the list is pdf-prepress-l and it is located at InfoMania > Printing and Prepress, a PostScript prepress house in Sacramento, CA. > It is handled on a Sun server system, with the latest version of the > free mailing list manager, Majordomo. > > To subscribe to the list, send e-mail to: > > > > In the body of the message, enter the text: > > subscribe pdf-prepress-l > > or > > subscribe pdf-prepress-d > > The second entry will get you a digested version of the list, which > sends out a message once 200 lines of pdf-prepress-l accumulate. > > The list is setup to keep archives. I will put up a web interface to > the archives later, but in the meantime they can be accessed as > described in the Majordomo help file, which can be mailed to you by > sending e-mail to: > > > > In the body of the message, enter the text: > > help > > and you will get a file describing all you need to know as a member of > pdf-prepress-l and/or pdf-prepress-d. > > Thank you. I will send this announcement to pdf-l once a week to let > newcomers know of this development. > > -- Tom Mornini > -- InfoMania > > ____ No ads here this week: Our thanks to PDF list subscribers _____ ____ No ads here this week: Our thanks to PDF list subscribers _____ 2-Jun-1999 2:57:42-GMT,1836;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id UAA29116 for ; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 20:57:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA13291; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 21:49:29 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 1 Jun 1999 21:47:37 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA13114; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 21:47:35 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: listowner@mailbag.com (Unverified) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <37547CEA.104716A2@showads.com.au> References: <199906020100.SAA23368@sun630mp.infomania.com> Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 21:50:02 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: List Administrator Subject: Re: [PDF] ANNOUNCE - No More personal comments, pls Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM ____________________________________________________________ >Well done. Adding a two-word personal reply and forwarding it along with the full-text of the previous message is not really something likely to interest very many of the PDF list's 2,100+ subscribers. If you have the urge to write and send such e-notes -- meant for the original message sender -- please send your reply directly and only to him/her. It's bad Netiquette to do otherwise. Thanks in advance for your cooperation. ____ No ads here this week: Our thanks to PDF list subscribers _____ 2-Jun-1999 17:45:27-GMT,1731;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id LAA20642 for ; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 11:45:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA05467; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 12:20:38 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 2 Jun 1999 12:12:38 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA04813; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 12:12:37 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC2C706823FD211963400805FBEDF4E632071@gsomail> From: "Perry, Bob" To: PDF List Subject: [PDF] printing from Exchange Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 12:12:10 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM ____________________________________________________________ I am using an ASP page to open Acrobat 4.0 and print some pdf files. Does this code still work with Acrobat 4? Set AcroExchApp = CreateObject("AcroExch.App") Set AcroExchAVDoc = CreateObject("AcroExch.AVDoc") Set AcroExchPDDoc = CreateObject("AcroExch.PDDoc") ' Show the Acrobat Exchange window AcroExchApp.Show I tried it and am not getting Exchange to open. Is AcroExchApp still valid? Any help would be appreciated. -Bob Perry ____ No ads here this week: Our thanks to PDF list subscribers _____ 2-Jun-1999 17:58:50-GMT,1704;000000000000 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id LAA21081 for ; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 11:58:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA08376; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 12:52:52 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 2 Jun 1999 12:41:28 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA07143; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 12:41:26 -0500 From: jmaechtlen@amada.com (Jay Maechtlen) To: "'PDF List'" Subject: [PDF] bookmark fonts/display Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 10:19:16 -0700 Message-ID: <000101bead1c$0b64d680$e640dccf@jmaechtlen.amada.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM ____________________________________________________________ Greetings! I've recently moved to Acro 4 on win '95 We notice (on my machine, and another running Reader4) that the bookmarks (of PDFs created under 4.0?) are strangely spaced- gaps in words, etc. How can this be? suggestions welcome! Jay ____ No ads here this week: Our thanks to PDF list subscribers _____ 2-Jun-1999 1:09:07-GMT,2733;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id TAA26610 for ; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 19:09:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA05750; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 20:02:33 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 1 Jun 1999 20:00:11 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA05559; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 20:00:07 -0500 Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 18:00:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Mornini Message-Id: <199906020100.SAA23368@sun630mp.infomania.com> To: pdf-l@emrg.com, tmornini@sun630mp.infomania.com Subject: [PDF] ANNOUNCE - PDF in Prepress mailing list! Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM ____________________________________________________________ I am pleased to announce pdf-prepress-l. Earlier there were several messages on pdf-l indicating that people would prefer a separate mailing list for PDF use in prepress. I suggested that I could help, or perhaps run myself, a list for PDF use in high-end prepress environments. Response was very positive, so I decided to put back on my list manager hat, and set up a new list. The name of the list is pdf-prepress-l and it is located at InfoMania Printing and Prepress, a PostScript prepress house in Sacramento, CA. It is handled on a Sun server system, with the latest version of the free mailing list manager, Majordomo. To subscribe to the list, send e-mail to: In the body of the message, enter the text: subscribe pdf-prepress-l or subscribe pdf-prepress-d The second entry will get you a digested version of the list, which sends out a message once 200 lines of pdf-prepress-l accumulate. The list is setup to keep archives. I will put up a web interface to the archives later, but in the meantime they can be accessed as described in the Majordomo help file, which can be mailed to you by sending e-mail to: In the body of the message, enter the text: help and you will get a file describing all you need to know as a member of pdf-prepress-l and/or pdf-prepress-d. Thank you. I will send this announcement to pdf-l once a week to let newcomers know of this development. -- Tom Mornini -- InfoMania ____ No ads here this week: Our thanks to PDF list subscribers _____ 2-Jun-1999 19:35:47-GMT,2083;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id NAA23951 for ; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 13:35:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA17403; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 14:29:27 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 2 Jun 1999 14:27:19 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA17185; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 14:27:17 -0500 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19990602192716.00976e54@env-sol.com> X-Sender: thiersch@env-sol.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 12:27:16 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Tom Thiersch Subject: Re: [PDF] bookmark fonts/display Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM ____________________________________________________________ One thing that might be causing it is a conflict between an embedded font and a local font; try changing the View > Use Local Fonts option and see if the display improves. [This is just a guess - I haven't noticed this problem myself] Rgds Tom Thiersch At 10:19 AM 6/2/99 -0700, you wrote: >The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM >____________________________________________________________ > >Greetings! >I've recently moved to Acro 4 on win '95 >We notice (on my machine, and another running Reader4) >that the bookmarks (of PDFs created under 4.0?) >are strangely spaced- gaps in words, etc. >How can this be? >suggestions welcome! >Jay > > >____ No ads here this week: Our thanks to PDF list subscribers _____ > > ____ No ads here this week: Our thanks to PDF list subscribers _____ 2-Jun-1999 20:15:38-GMT,2426;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id OAA25059 for ; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 14:15:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA21034; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 15:06:36 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 2 Jun 1999 15:04:51 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA20796; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 15:04:49 -0500 X-Sender: GTE/mglouis@mail.gte.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199906021741.MAA07165@everglades.binc.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 15:09:23 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Matt Louis Subject: RE: [PDF] need pdf to photoshop help Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM ____________________________________________________________ Here is something that always works, well almost always. You will probably need to use a service bureau (SB) for this but here it goes: Rip your files on a Scitex Brisque. The Brisque, in case your SB is not aware of this, will convert pdf files directly into CT and Linework, the two propriatary formats of Scitex, without having to regenerate new postscript. (Technically, this is not ripping, rather it is converting/rasterizing.) Then have your SB do a CT Combine which will combine the CT and LW back into a single CT @ CT res12 (or the res of your choice- think metric ppi here). CT files will open in any version of Photoshop. The only hitch here is that your CT will be in CMYK but that should not be much of a problem. You can always use your problem file as a reference for the way colors were before you ran them through the Brisque. If you cannot find anyone to do this for you give me a call. We've got a Brisque. Matt Louis Louis Printing Services Arlington, Texas P.S. did you try opening your pdf in Freehand, CorelDraw, and Illustrator and then exporting a raster image from there? ____ No ads here this week: Our thanks to PDF list subscribers _____ 2-Jun-1999 21:20:19-GMT,5950;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id PAA26909 for ; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 15:20:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA26484; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 16:00:23 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 2 Jun 1999 15:56:47 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA26041; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 15:56:46 -0500 Content-return: allowed Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 14:54:24 -0600 From: "Hagar, Laura M" Subject: [PDF] Corrupt PDF Files--Seen this? To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Cc: "Elderton, Gary M" Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM ____________________________________________________________ I'm checking to see if anyone on this list has seen the following 2 problems. At work, we create pdf files based on scanned documents (using an HP 4c or IIc scanner using ISIS drivers) or conversions from source documents using CreatePDF or Print to PDFWriter (Word, Interleaf, PowerPoint, or Excel). We have been using PCs running WIN95 and Acrobat Exchange 3.0. We use the capture plug-in to make the files searchable. In the last 1.5 years, we have created hundreds of files and had not seen any problems with the pdf files---until recently. (We deliver the pdf files on CDROM and also place the files on a closed intranet (using a file server not a true web server).) The first evidence of corruption manifested in 5 different pdf files placed on a file server (intranet) and accessed through a web connection (read that as Netscape 4.x). The files have existed on the file server for many months. The corruption manifested as pages that when scrolled over or attempted to print gave the Adobe error "There was an error processing a page. Illegal operation inside a path." When this error is cleared, the following error appeared: "Illegal operation inside path" So far, there has been no evidence of corruption of pdf files that were placed on the CDs only in the 5 on the file server. I checked with Adobe and they had not heard of this before or had record of it in their database. They did suggest that the server software might be causing it. I found that deleting the pages affected and inserting newly scanned/created pages seems to have cleared this problem for the time being. The second kind of corruption I've seen on 2 different PCs both running NT 4.0 and using Twain drivers for the scanners. We upgraded our PCs to 400 speed DELs (with 90MB RAM) and to Acrobat 4.0. We still create pdf files either by scanning or converting files (read that as using Print to PDFWriter only). NOTE: the NT configurations are controlled by our systems support group who does ~not~ grant us permissions to use Create PDF as a menu option. We only have permisssions to use Print to PDFWriter. We were told that is how it has to be. We still attempt to capture the documents using the Capture plugin. However, now, with the move to NT and the upgrade to Acrobat 4.0, if we attempt to capture any pages in the pdf file, the file corrupts. The corruption manifests itself as the upper left quadrant of a page blown up to 400% and the rest of the page disappears. The corruption can be on any page in the pdf file. A printed version of the file exhibits exactly what we see on screen. If we try to delete the corrupt page(s) and replace it/them with newer page(s) (again created using a scan or convert), other pages get corrupted. We then have no option other than to recreate the pdf file from scratch. Our workaround to this second problem is to downgrade back to one of the original (slower Gateway 200 speed/64MB RAM) machines and back to Exchange 3.0. Even doing this, we still have seen 1 instance of the same kind of corruption seen with Acrobat 4.0. However, we were able to fix the singular file by deleting the corrupt page and replacing it with a newly created page. Adobe's answer to the second form of corruption is for us to purchase their full-blown Capture product. As a governent contractor, we cannot substantiate the cost to our customer. (Rationale: We've captured pages before. Why not now?) Capture is $995 for the product plus $595 for each license for a 20,000 page pack. If we go over 20,000 pages, we must purchase another license for another 20,000 pages, and so on. This move could easily have a spiraling, out of control cost for us. For example, I just scanned a 243 page book 2.5 times. Each time I attempted to capture the pdf file, it became corrupt. If, by chance, the full blown version of Capture happens to corrupt the file, and I have to rescan/recreate the document, I may hit my 20,000 page license limit sooner rather than later. Not only are my costs for the product and license packs rising, but my budget for man hours also rises. (Geesh. . . imagine attempting to capture a document when the 20,000 limit is reached mid document. . . ) Can anyone offer any explanation or assistance for these problems? If I can add clarity or answer more questions, please let me know. Thank you ahead of time. Laura M. Hagar L-245 Documentation Lockheed Martin Astronautics Laura M. Hagar L-245 Documentation Lockheed Martin Astronautics ____ No ads here this week: Our thanks to PDF list subscribers _____ 2-Jun-1999 21:57:10-GMT,3129;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id PAA27973 for ; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 15:57:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA32211; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 16:49:53 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 2 Jun 1999 16:46:45 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA31794; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 16:46:43 -0500 Message-ID: <000f01bead41$3bbd6520$324370d8@concentric.net> From: "M. Olenick" To: References: Subject: Re: [PDF] Corrupt PDF Files--Seen this? Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 14:45:28 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM ____________________________________________________________ I've had corruption problems with firewalls and content filters (they filter "inappropriate content" though I have no idea how). Did anybody add a firewall or content filter your PDF's are being pulled through? If so, that might explain why everything was working fine then all the sudden fell apart. What makes this odd, and almost impossible to debug, is corruption only happens sometimes. When the same web application is accessed directly -- via dial-up, ISDN, etc... -- there aren't any corruption problems on the same machine(s). Michael. ----- Original Message ----- From: Hagar, Laura M To: Cc: Elderton, Gary M Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 1999 1:54 PM Subject: [PDF] Corrupt PDF Files--Seen this? > The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM > ____________________________________________________________ > > I'm checking to see if anyone on this list has seen the following 2 > problems. > > At work, we create pdf files based on scanned documents (using an HP 4c or > IIc scanner using ISIS drivers) or conversions from source documents using > CreatePDF or Print to PDFWriter (Word, Interleaf, PowerPoint, or Excel). > We have been using PCs running WIN95 and Acrobat Exchange 3.0. > We use the capture plug-in to make the files searchable. > In the last 1.5 years, we have created hundreds of files and had not seen > any problems with the pdf files---until recently. > (We deliver the pdf files on CDROM and also place the files on a closed > intranet (using a file server not a true web server).) ____ No ads here this week: Our thanks to PDF list subscribers _____ 2-Jun-1999 22:21:28-GMT,3977;000000000001 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id QAA28834 for ; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 16:21:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA01133; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 17:05:11 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 2 Jun 1999 17:01:09 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA00686; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 17:01:06 -0500 Content-return: allowed Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 15:58:57 -0600 From: "Hagar, Laura M" Subject: RE: [PDF] Corrupt PDF Files--Seen this? To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-type: text/plain Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM ____________________________________________________________ Interestingly, yes, a Network Associates Guild (virus software, I think) was added to prevent Melissa (virus) things from killing our network. Supposedly though, the software only scans the files but does not alter them. The corruption happens consistently when using NT and Acrobat 4.0 on 2 different PCs. This is certainly a challenge. If I only understood a fraction of the Acrobat code! Laura M. Hagar L-245 Documentation Lockheed Martin Astronautics > ---------- > From: M. Olenick[SMTP:olenick@olen.com] > Reply To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 1999 3:45 PM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: Re: [PDF] Corrupt PDF Files--Seen this? > > The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM > ____________________________________________________________ > > I've had corruption problems with firewalls and content filters (they > filter > "inappropriate content" though I have no idea how). Did anybody add a > firewall or content filter your PDF's are being pulled through? If so, > that > might explain why everything was working fine then all the sudden fell > apart. What makes this odd, and almost impossible to debug, is corruption > only happens sometimes. When the same web application is accessed > directly -- via dial-up, ISDN, etc... -- there aren't any corruption > problems on the same machine(s). > > Michael. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Hagar, Laura M > To: > Cc: Elderton, Gary M > Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 1999 1:54 PM > Subject: [PDF] Corrupt PDF Files--Seen this? > > > > The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM > > ____________________________________________________________ > > > > I'm checking to see if anyone on this list has seen the following 2 > > problems. > > > > At work, we create pdf files based on scanned documents (using an HP 4c > or > > IIc scanner using ISIS drivers) or conversions from source documents > using > > CreatePDF or Print to PDFWriter (Word, Interleaf, PowerPoint, or Excel). > > We have been using PCs running WIN95 and Acrobat Exchange 3.0. > > We use the capture plug-in to make the files searchable. > > In the last 1.5 years, we have created hundreds of files and had not > seen > > any problems with the pdf files---until recently. > > (We deliver the pdf files on CDROM and also place the files on a closed > > intranet (using a file server not a true web server).) > > > > > ____ No ads here this week: Our thanks to PDF list subscribers _____ > ____ No ads here this week: Our thanks to PDF list subscribers _____ 3-Jun-1999 5:39:45-GMT,3420;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA09818 for ; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 23:39:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA10842; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 00:32:24 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 3 Jun 1999 00:29:17 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA10559; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 00:29:15 -0500 From: "Graham Stewart" To: Subject: [PDF] Image display problem using Acrobat 4 Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 01:28:40 -0400 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1162 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <19990603052906Z178283-22507+7@bureau6.utcc.utoronto.ca> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM ____________________________________________________________ Hi ... I've been having a problem displaying PDF files with Acrobat 4 (PC running NT4). I'm scanning pages to tiff files at 600 dpi in another application, using the "Import Image" plug-in to convert to PDF, then using the "Paper Capture" plug-in (image with hidden text) to OCR. Basically this is the procedure recommended in the "Converting Scanned Documents to PDF" section of the Acrobat 4 guide. I need to run the Capture plug-in for OCR and indexing; I need "image with hidden text" in order to retain the original image for archival material The problem: after importing the tiffs into Acrobat, the PDF files look great, but after running the capture plug-in, each image has several (sometimes more, sometimes less) horizontal white lines running the width of the page. Basically a gap in the page. If I zoom in or zoom out, the position and frequency of the lines change, but there is no zoom level at which they don't occur. I've tried every combination of processing I can think of: no downsample, no compression in PDF writer, different resolutions, etc.: no difference. It looks terrible. The lines do not show up in these files when displayed or produced with Acrobat 3. It seems to have something to do with how Acrobat 4 processes files for display since on some pages I see regular black horizontal dashes on the right side of the page. These appear as "segments" of the page are loaded. I've tried processing some tiffs from other sources to see if my scanner (AGFA Studio Star) is at fault but they also have the same problem. I've also tried other PCs with no success. Has anyone else seen this? Any suggestions on how to get rid of it? The problem doesn't usually occur until capturing takes place, but since I'm producing searchable facsimile reproductions of the original material, capture (and PDF writer) is necessary. Is it the result of having to "PDF" the file twice? Thanks in advance. Graham Stewart Toronto, Canada graham.stewart@utoronto.ca ____ No ads here this week: Our thanks to PDF list subscribers _____ 3-Jun-1999 11:55:52-GMT,2416;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA18591 for ; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 05:55:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA31009; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 06:50:40 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 3 Jun 1999 06:48:21 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA30833; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 06:48:20 -0500 From: naturalyear@fcc.net To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 07:47:43 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: [PDF] linearized arcs X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.02b14) Message-ID: <19990603114755.AAA1871@dorsey.fcc.net@joecasey> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM ____________________________________________________________ I am developing a large chart in hand-written Postscript that includes lots of circles and arcs (using the Postscript operators arc and arcn). Distiller turns it into PDF with no trouble and it displays beautifully. However, when I print the PDF image from an Acrobat Reader or from Exchange, sometimes some of the circles and arcs are turned into series of straight line segments, perhaps 10 degrees or so per segment. This only happens with some iterations of the image I am developing, at other times it prints our fine. The same thing happened when I sent the chart to a service bureau to be plotted on a HP plotter. When they print direct from the Postscript source it comes out fine, but when they convert to PDF and print that, the linearized arcs appear. I am guessing that the problem is in the Reader/Exchange printer logic, and that for some reason it is oversimplifying the arcs. Is there a setting or trick or whatever that will help me get circular arcs every time? Thanks, Joe Casey Joe Casey for The Natural Year Circular Almanac naturalyear@fcc.net ____ No ads here this week: Our thanks to PDF list subscribers _____ 3-Jun-1999 13:33:41-GMT,2178;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA20892 for ; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 07:33:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA07300; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 08:24:53 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 3 Jun 1999 08:22:57 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA07061; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 08:22:55 -0500 From: LynneA@Exabyte.COM Message-ID: To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Using Acrobat as an OLE server Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 07:22:30 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM ____________________________________________________________ I have a large number of historical documents that I'd like to add to my family tree (I'm using Family Tree Maker). I've scanned them and used Acrobat Capture to turn them into nice electronic copies. Family Tree Maker says that it supports OLE objects, and I can go through all the steps to attach a PDF file as an object. However, when I click on the Acrobat Document icon, the program hangs and I get a message saying that there was a read error opening the file. When I click OK (my only choice), I get an "Out of Memory" message. I'm using Win95 on a Pentium machine with 64MB of memory and tons of disk space. I can open the files directly using Acrobat Reader 4.0 or Exchange 3.0 without any problems. So, the question is... Is Acrobat capable of serving OLE objects? Or is there some other problem I'm not thinking of? TIA, Lynne Avery ____ No ads here this week: Our thanks to PDF list subscribers _____ 3-Jun-1999 13:35:30-GMT,3072;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA20933 for ; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 07:35:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA08177; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 08:31:33 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 3 Jun 1999 08:30:24 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA07948; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 08:30:16 -0500 From: "Chad Hardy" To: Subject: [PDF] New list subscriber Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 09:30:29 -0400 Message-ID: <001d01beadc5$3f4c9a60$e8015ed1@chad> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM ____________________________________________________________ Hello All, I am new to the list and have searched the archives for what I am about to post but have yet to find a response that can help me. So here it is: I have a client that wants to sell written information on the internet. The problem with this is, they do not want the people buying it to just print it out and pass it around to everybody else in the office. So, what they want is to "watermark" the documents with the user's information such as "Name", "Credit Card #", etc. so that when the document is printed or even viewed on screen it will have this information in the background and they will be hesitant about copying and giving it out. So what I need to accomplish is: 1) Have the user fill out a form with Name, Address, Credit#, Other Info. 2) This information be submitted to the credit card company for authentication 3) This information also be submitted to a database 4) This information (limited to what we need for the watermark) be generated into a PDF 5) When the person clicks a link to see their information online... 6) A plugin or something will combine the 2 PDFs with the user info as a watermark behind the Content PDF. Is this possible, and am I thinking of the easiest way to accomplish this? I am very new to working with PDF files and would appreciate any help that I can get. If there are any web sites or books relating to this I would also appreciate it. I have searched every where and have not found a solution yet. Thanks in Advanced Chad Hardy chardy@cyberdesignstudios.com http://www.cyberdesignstudios.com tel 770.957.2985 fax 770.957.5500 ____ No ads here this week: Our thanks to PDF list subscribers _____ 3-Jun-1999 13:36:55-GMT,2712;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA20956 for ; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 07:36:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA08503; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 08:33:47 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 3 Jun 1999 08:32:37 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA08310; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 08:32:36 -0500 X-Sender: dwill@mail.int.prolitho.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <19990603114755.AAA1871@dorsey.fcc.net@joecasey> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 08:31:08 -0600 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Dave Will Subject: Re: [PDF] linearized arcs Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM ____________________________________________________________ Joe Casey wrote: >I am developing a large chart in hand-written Postscript that >includes lots of circles and arcs (using the Postscript operators arc >and arcn). Distiller turns it into PDF with no trouble and it displays >beautifully. > >However, when I print the PDF image from an Acrobat Reader or >from Exchange, sometimes some of the circles and arcs are >turned into series of straight line segments, perhaps 10 degrees or >so per segment. > >This only happens with some iterations of the image I am >developing, at other times it prints our fine. > >The same thing happened when I sent the chart to a service bureau >to be plotted on a HP plotter. When they print direct from the >Postscript source it comes out fine, but when they convert to PDF >and print that, the linearized arcs appear. > >I am guessing that the problem is in the Reader/Exchange printer >logic, and that for some reason it is oversimplifying the arcs. > >Is there a setting or trick or whatever that will help me get circular >arcs every time? > >Thanks, > >Joe Casey >Joe Casey for The Natural Year Circular Almanac >naturalyear@fcc.net Joe, We do some complex pages like this also and the only way I could get this to print correctly was to allocate out as much memory as I could in exchange(150mg). I hope this helps. Regards, Dave Will Professional Litho Mpls.Mn ____ No ads here this week: Our thanks to PDF list subscribers _____ 3-Jun-1999 14:05:33-GMT,4034;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA21734 for ; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 08:05:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA11669; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 09:00:43 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 3 Jun 1999 08:59:23 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA11455; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 08:59:20 -0500 Message-Id: <199906031359.GAA68921@mail.inficad.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Thu, 03 Jun 1999 06:59:12 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] New list subscriber From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM ____________________________________________________________ > I have a client that wants to sell written information on the internet. The > problem with this is, they do not want the people buying it to just print it > out and pass it around to everybody else in the office. So, what they want > is to "watermark" the documents with the user's information such as "Name", > "Credit Card #", I can't give you an answer to your question, but am responding because I hope you will never take the liberty to put a person's credit card number on any document that you have no control over. You could be opening you and your client up to making people very angry and someone inevitably will complain to authorities and/or litigate. The very thought of my credit card number being placed in a document as a deterent for this purpose, or any other for that matter, sends shivers up my spine. > etc. so that when the document is printed or even viewed on > screen it will have this information in the background and they will be > hesitant about copying and giving it out. > So what I need to accomplish is: > 1) Have the user fill out a form with Name, Address, Credit#, Other Info. > 2) This information be submitted to the credit card company for > authentication > 3) This information also be submitted to a database > 4) This information (limited to what we need for the watermark) be generated > into a PDF > 5) When the person clicks a link to see their information online... > 6) A plugin or something will combine the 2 PDFs with the user info as a > watermark behind the Content PDF. > > Is this possible, and am I thinking of the easiest way to accomplish this? I > am very new to working with PDF files and would appreciate any help that I > can get. If there are any web sites or books relating to this I would also > appreciate it. I have searched every where and have not found a solution > yet. > > Thanks in Advanced > > Chad Hardy > chardy@cyberdesignstudios.com > http://www.cyberdesignstudios.com > tel 770.957.2985 > fax 770.957.5500 As a matter of practicality, your client should charge what the document's worth and be done with it. Whether it's a book, a white paper, or a magazine article, once something's in print, it's easy to make a copy and almost impossible to prevent. Please, please, don't even think about making private information public. Rich ---------------------------------------------------------------- Rich Sprague PDF & Digital Printing Solutions (480) 860-0050 richsprague@inficad.com Check out my new website: http://www.inficad.com/~richsprague ---------------------------------------------------------------- ____ No ads here this week: Our thanks to PDF list subscribers _____ 3-Jun-1999 14:47:19-GMT,4089;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA22906 for ; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 08:47:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA15387; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 09:41:11 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 3 Jun 1999 09:38:44 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA15112; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 09:38:43 -0500 Message-Id: <199906031434.JAA24523@fw1jdtv.jdpub.com> Date: 03 Jun 99 09:42:51 -0500 From: Jeff Rochon Subject: Re: [PDF] New list subscriber To: pdf X-Mailer: QuickMail Pro 1.5.3 (Mac) X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-Ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id JAA15108 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM ____________________________________________________________ Reply to: Re: [PDF] New list subscriber hey chad, this is an interesting challenge. how do you make a document for a very limited audience while trying to prevent them from just giving it others after they have it. the embedded credit card aspect is an interesting idea as a deterent for someone handing it out. i was thinking about this for a couple seconds and think there may be an effective way to deter someone from sending out a copy of the pdf file without displaying this information. [use their credit card number as the password to the pdf file] i realize this wouldn't prevent them from handing out the printed document but would slow the sharing of the information. i also realize that password protection has been a joke in earlier versions of acrobat. [open the file in exchange and export as an eps then redistill. this removes the password protection] i not sure if there is a way to halt this printed transfer without using very personal information that someone would not want others to see. it would also have to ghosted behind the content of the document so they couldn't just cross it out. [even this could probably be removed with some playing around on a copy machine] good luck in this quest. it is technically possible to accomplish what you originally asked. we have been working on a automatic pdf database creation process for use over the web. other solutions i have seen by former adobe employees run in the $50,000 - $65,000 range. we are anticipating a much cheaper alternative. ;) all the best, jeff rochon >> etc. so that when the document is printed or even viewed on >> screen it will have this information in the background and they will be >> hesitant about copying and giving it out. >> So what I need to accomplish is: >> 1) Have the user fill out a form with Name, Address, Credit#, Other Info. >> 2) This information be submitted to the credit card company for >> authentication >> 3) This information also be submitted to a database >> 4) This information (limited to what we need for the watermark) be generated >> into a PDF >> 5) When the person clicks a link to see their information online... >> 6) A plugin or something will combine the 2 PDFs with the user info as a >> watermark behind the Content PDF. >> >> Is this possible, and am I thinking of the easiest way to accomplish this? I >> am very new to working with PDF files and would appreciate any help that I >> can get. If there are any web sites or books relating to this I would also >> appreciate it. I have searched every where and have not found a solution >> yet. >> >> Thanks in Advanced >> >> Chad Hardy ____ No ads here this week: Our thanks to PDF list subscribers _____ 3-Jun-1999 15:37:38-GMT,2258;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA24503 for ; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 09:37:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA20362; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 10:29:57 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 3 Jun 1999 10:28:30 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA20229; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 10:28:29 -0500 From: forcutt@sco.state.id.us X-Lotus-FromDomain: SCO To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <87256785.0054520C.00@sco.state.id.us> Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 09:25:30 -0600 Subject: Re: [PDF] New list subscriber Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM ____________________________________________________________ Have you thought about or tried using the basic security settings of Password for Open, Password for Security, and Disallow Printing? These may not give you everything you're looking for, but their included in Exchange and the price is right. Fred Orcutt >> etc. so that when the document is printed or even viewed on >> screen it will have this information in the background and they will be >> hesitant about copying and giving it out. >> So what I need to accomplish is: >> 1) Have the user fill out a form with Name, Address, Credit#, Other Info. >> 2) This information be submitted to the credit card company for >> authentication >> 3) This information also be submitted to a database >> 4) This information (limited to what we need for the watermark) be generated >> into a PDF >> 5) When the person clicks a link to see their information online... >> 6) A plugin or something will combine the 2 PDFs with the user info as a >> watermark behind the Content PDF. ____ No ads here this week: Our thanks to PDF list subscribers _____ 3-Jun-1999 17:04:47-GMT,1945;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA27651 for ; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 11:04:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA31044; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 11:58:05 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 3 Jun 1999 11:55:55 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA30710; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 11:55:50 -0500 Message-Id: <199906031655.SAA12780@wanadoo.fr> Subject: [PDF] Javascript in PDF form Date: Jeu, 3 Jun 99 18:56:18 +0200 x-sender: ateliers.boucaou@pop.wanadoo.fr x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: "d'Ornano" To: "pdfzone list" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id LAA30705 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM ____________________________________________________________ Hello, Beginner in acrobat, with mac G3/266, exchange/reader 3.01 I want to understand how to associate a JavaScript script and an acrobat form field. I have searched everywhere in Adobe documentation and they say it is possible, they provide samples but nowhere they explain how to do it ! Thanks. S. d'ORNANO Les Ateliers du Boucaou. La Courgeyre. 40 110 Onesse. tél/fax : 05 58 42 64 66 E mail : ateliers.boucaou@wanadoo.fr http://pro.wanadoo.fr/ateliers.boucaou/ ____ No ads here this week: Our thanks to PDF list subscribers _____ 3-Jun-1999 17:45:39-GMT,3152;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA28903 for ; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 11:45:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA03006; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 12:39:28 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 3 Jun 1999 12:37:18 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA02755; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 12:37:06 -0500 Message-ID: <01BEADC5.AA3141F0.David_Tamburello@mazer.com> From: Dave Tamburello To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Javascript in PDF form Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 13:33:27 -0400 Organization: Mazer Corporation X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM ____________________________________________________________ If you are still using 3.01, you will need to get the 3.5 forms upgrade.Get it at http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/acroformsplugin.html or upgrade to Acrobat 4. The 3.5 form upgrade is a free download, the 4.0 upgrade is about $99 for registered 3.01 users. Once you have a forms-enabled version of Acrobat, create a form field, go to the action tab, and select JavaScript for the action. Click on the Edit button. Then type or cut-and-paste your script into the text box. Finally click OK, Set Action, and OK. Your form field now contains a JavaScript action. This can also be done at the document and plug-in level. See the documentation for forms listed under the help menu for more information. David M.Tamburello Training Specialist Mazer e-Publishing 2436 Gaynor Ave. NW Grand Rapids, MI 49544-1830 (616) 784-8963 Ask me about Acrobat 4.0 training! -----Original Message----- From: d'Ornano [SMTP:ateliers.boucaou@wanadoo.fr] Sent: Thursday, June 03, 1999 12:56 PM To: pdfzone list Subject: [PDF] Javascript in PDF form The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM ____________________________________________________________ Hello, Beginner in acrobat, with mac G3/266, exchange/reader 3.01 I want to understand how to associate a JavaScript script and an acrobat form field. I have searched everywhere in Adobe documentation and they say it is possible, they provide samples but nowhere they explain how to do it ! Thanks. S. d'ORNANO Les Ateliers du Boucaou. La Courgeyre. 40 110 Onesse. tel/fax : 05 58 42 64 66 E mail : ateliers.boucaou@wanadoo.fr http://pro.wanadoo.fr/ateliers.boucaou/ ____ No ads here this week: Our thanks to PDF list subscribers _____ ____ No ads here this week: Our thanks to PDF list subscribers _____ 3-Jun-1999 18:48:30-GMT,2244;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA00986 for ; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 12:48:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA09175; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 13:37:29 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 3 Jun 1999 13:36:20 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA08959; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 13:36:09 -0500 From: scottabel@cybertek.com Message-Id: <9906039284.AA928434984@cc.pmsc.com> X-Mailer: ccMail Link to SMTP R8.00.01 Date: Thu, 03 Jun 99 13:25:12 -0500 To: Subject: [PDF] Acrobat Reader Instructions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM ____________________________________________________________ Has anyone found a good set of instructions for obtaining, downloading, installing and using Adobe Acrobat Reader 4.0? I am looking for instructions that introduce Acrobat and PDF, provide instructions for downloading that take into consideration things like operating system, system requirements, viewing files in Reader vs.web browsers (Netscape, Internet Explorer and IE for AOL, how to configure a browser to use the Adobe Acrobat Reader plug-in, etc. etc.? I presumed Adobe would have a "canned" set of instructions available for folks like me who are releasing an entire set of documentation in PDF format. They don't (at least that's what their customer support foks say). I would ideally like to avoid writing my own instructions from scratch. Rather, I would like to model my instructions after another set of well written, properly explained instructions. Any ideas where I might look? SCOTT ABEL ____ No ads here this week: Our thanks to PDF list subscribers _____ 3-Jun-1999 18:54:40-GMT,3297;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA01212 for ; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 12:54:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA10631; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 13:51:08 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 3 Jun 1999 13:49:43 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA10472; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 13:49:42 -0500 Message-ID: <76F37B2B6013D21184E400A02461E5AF014C9A07@msexchg1.wcnoc.com> From: Decker Gary E To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Word as a Page Layout Program (was: Microsoft Font Embedding) Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 13:49:28 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM ____________________________________________________________ I have been told, and have learned from my experience, that Word is next to useless as a page layout program, due to its tendency to "reflow", or automatically adjust page margins, along with the horizontal and vertical spacing of text, to correspond with the printer driver selected. I have posted several examples to this list over the past few years, and I don't want to take up bandwidth citing them again, but you may e-mail me directly if you're interested. Unfortunately, some of us, such as myself, have to "make do" with what we have. In this case, it is imperative that you design your Word document while using whatever driver you are going to use to make your PDF file (be it PDF Writer, Acrobat Distiller, or another driver producing PostScript output for Distiller). Only then can "WYSIWYG" have any real meaning. However, if someone else designed the Word document, and then assigns it to you for conversion to PDF (that's the predicament I find myself in all too often), then all bets are off. You may have to manually readjust page breaks, line breaks, etc. HTH, Gary E. Decker Senior Information Services Analyst Wolf Creek Nuclear Operating Corporation 1550 Oxen Lane N.E. P.O. Box 411 Burlington, KS 66839-0411 USA Phone: 316-364-8831 x8434 Fax: 316-364-4154 Pager: 785-575-2588 http://www.wcnoc.com mailto:gadecke@wcnoc.com > ---------- > From: Sboard0599@aol.com[SMTP:Sboard0599@aol.com] > Sent: Thursday, June 03, 1999 1:29 PM > Subject: [PDF] Microsoft Font Embedding > > I have a customer who is trying to embed fonts into a MicroSoft Word > postscript file that will be converted to PDF. They are using WIN95. > Is this > possible. I know it can be done when the file is being distilled. > Also, can I > get feedback on how you all feel about Word and its use as a > pagelayout > program. > > Thanks, > Scott Vaughan > Electronic Prepress Manager, Courier Companies ____ No ads here this week: Our thanks to PDF list subscribers _____ 3-Jun-1999 19:36:52-GMT,3079;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA02442 for ; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 13:36:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA14258; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 14:30:59 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 3 Jun 1999 14:29:26 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA14092; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 14:29:22 -0500 Message-Id: <199906031929.MAA45830@mail.inficad.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Thu, 03 Jun 1999 12:29:08 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Microsoft Font Embedding From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM ____________________________________________________________ > I have a customer who is trying to embed fonts into a MicroSoft Word > postscript file that will be converted to PDF. They are using WIN95. Is this > possible. I know it can be done when the file is being distilled. Also, can I > get feedback on how you all feel about Word and its use as a pagelayout > program. > > Thanks, > Scott Vaughan > Electronic Prepress Manager, Courier Companies It is a mistake to believe that "Word" is a page layout program. There are a serious lack of tools for laying out a page, muchless many pages. Page layout programs allow for an easy and efficient use of objects and text. Any choice would be better than Word, but include QuarkXPress, Pagemaker and, in the near future, InDesign. Others might include Framemaker and Microsoft Publisher. The easiest way to make a PDF file from Word and in Acrobat 4x, is to use a function called CREATE ADOBE PDF. This then allows one to choose between using PDF Writer (for the most basic of documents), or Distiller, to generate the PDF. In 4x there are three preset Distiller options for file resolution depending on final use and you can set your embed/subset choices as you desire in the Acrobat application itself before starting to create the PDF. As simple as this process is, in most cases there is no reason to print a postscript file, the manually distill it. Rich ---------------------------------------------------------------- Rich Sprague PDF & Digital Printing Solutions (480) 860-0050 richsprague@inficad.com Check out my new website: http://www.inficad.com/~richsprague ---------------------------------------------------------------- ____ No ads here this week: Our thanks to PDF list subscribers _____ 3-Jun-1999 19:38:20-GMT,1686;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA02507 for ; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 13:38:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA08804; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 13:34:49 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 3 Jun 1999 13:29:58 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA08221; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 13:29:57 -0500 From: Sboard0599@aol.com Message-ID: <3c0cc12d.2488238e@aol.com> Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 14:29:34 EDT Subject: [PDF] Microsoft Font Embedding To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 54 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM ____________________________________________________________ I have a customer who is trying to embed fonts into a MicroSoft Word postscript file that will be converted to PDF. They are using WIN95. Is this possible. I know it can be done when the file is being distilled. Also, can I get feedback on how you all feel about Word and its use as a pagelayout program. Thanks, Scott Vaughan Electronic Prepress Manager, Courier Companies ____ No ads here this week: Our thanks to PDF list subscribers _____ 3-Jun-1999 19:40:35-GMT,2966;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA02574 for ; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 13:40:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA14970; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 14:36:39 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 3 Jun 1999 14:35:06 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA14732; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 14:35:02 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19990604023300.007e7bd0@mozart.inet.co.th> X-Sender: cooper@mozart.inet.co.th X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 02:33:00 +0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Doug Cooper Subject: Re: [PDF] Word as a Page Layout Program (was: Microsoft Font Embedding) In-Reply-To: <3c0cc12d.2488238e@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM ____________________________________________________________ At 14:29 3/6/99 EDT, you wrote: >can I get feedback on how you all feel about Word as a pagelayout program. Utterly awful. However, because Microsoft's support for non-Latin fonts often relies on undocumented features of WinXX, we out here in the boonies must use it (the alternative is chaos, eg. Thai Adobe Illustrator comes with custom versions of the standard Win9X Thai fonts). Worse, Acrobat 4.0 does not appear to distill Word files that contain many links properly. Typical behavior: cranks 2 hours, then dies with a 'file not created' error message, an irrelevant stack dump, and no intermediate files/error messages. Naturally, shortened test files fail because of unresolved jumps. Classic 'it's the other guy's fault' process. Question 1: does anybody know the password to the PDFmaker macros, so I can at least embed some debugging code? Question 2: can anybody fathom why Adobe bothers to password-protect this Word macro? Question 3: has anybody compared Acrobat 4.0's performance to Acrobat 3.0 tools like Local Render? Is there anything out there that actually delivers what Acrobat claims to? Flame off, Doug Cooper __________________________________________________ 1425 VP Tower, 21/45 Soi Chawakun Rangnam Road, Rajthevi, Bangkok, 10400 doug@th.net (662) 246-8946 fax (662) 246-8789 Southeast Asian Software Research Center, Bangkok http://seasrc.th.net --> SEASRC Web site http://seasrc.th.net/sealang --> SEALANG Web site ____ No ads here this week: Our thanks to PDF list subscribers _____ 3-Jun-1999 19:45:30-GMT,2419;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA02710 for ; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 13:45:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA15721; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 14:41:35 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 3 Jun 1999 14:39:53 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA15457; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 14:39:52 -0500 Message-ID: <76F37B2B6013D21184E400A02461E5AF014C9A08@msexchg1.wcnoc.com> From: Decker Gary E To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Microsoft Font Embedding Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 14:39:39 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM ____________________________________________________________ True enough; I had forgotten about this option because I am one of those unfortunate Acrobat 4.0/Windows NT 4.0 users who cannot use PDFMaker due to problems with it writing to the registry (and thus, unless you are an administrator, you cannot use PDFMaker, but instead have to either print to the Acrobat Distiller or PDF Writer print drivers). > ---------- > From: Rich Sprague[SMTP:richsprague@inficad.com] > Sent: Thursday, June 03, 1999 2:29 PM > > The easiest way to make a PDF file from Word and in Acrobat 4x, is to > use a > function called CREATE ADOBE PDF. This then allows one to choose > between > using PDF Writer (for the most basic of documents), or Distiller, to > generate the PDF. > > In 4x there are three preset Distiller options for file resolution > depending > on final use and you can set your embed/subset choices as you desire > in the > Acrobat application itself before starting to create the PDF. > > As simple as this process is, in most cases there is no reason to > print a > postscript file, the manually distill it. > > Rich > ____ No ads here this week: Our thanks to PDF list subscribers _____ 3-Jun-1999 20:00:39-GMT,2757;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA03088 for ; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 14:00:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA17420; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 14:56:35 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 3 Jun 1999 14:55:01 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA17194; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 14:55:00 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990603155740.0089a920@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 03 Jun 1999 15:57:40 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] Microsoft Font Embedding In-Reply-To: <3c0cc12d.2488238e@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM ____________________________________________________________ >I have a customer who is trying to embed fonts into a MicroSoft Word >postscript file that will be converted to PDF. They are using WIN95. Is this >possible. I know it can be done when the file is being distilled. If you mean something other than printing from Word to disk via a PS driver by "Word postscript file", best explain. If that is, in fact, what you mean, then you'd be distilling the PS to make PDF, no? Generally, avoid TT fonts, set the Distiller params correctly and it should all work out reasonably well. >Also, can I >get feedback on how you all feel about Word and its use as a pagelayout >program. > Word's good for what it's good at, and that can certainly include making PDFs if the operator is careful, but I wouldn't call it a page layout program. It doesn't really have any concept of laying out THIS text on THIS page. It's more a case of "Take THIS text and spread it across as many pages as you think it'll take to do the job assuming THIS printer driver, THESE fonts, etc." Change the driver, the page breaks are likely to change on you. If that's not a big issue, then Word's not a big problem. Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm ____ No ads here this week: Our thanks to PDF list subscribers _____ 3-Jun-1999 20:14:12-GMT,2183;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA03503 for ; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 14:14:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA18360; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 15:04:26 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 3 Jun 1999 15:02:52 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA18159; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 15:02:51 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990603160532.008684d0@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 03 Jun 1999 16:05:32 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] Word as a Page Layout Program (was: Microsoft Font Embedding) In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19990604023300.007e7bd0@mozart.inet.co.th> References: <3c0cc12d.2488238e@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM ____________________________________________________________ > > Question 2: can anybody fathom why Adobe bothers to password-protect >this Word macro? > They seem to have subcontracted some part of it out to another party. The credits for "Engineering" list Cole Software Consulting of Half Moon Bay, CA. Given the other credits listed, I'd assume that means that Cole wrote it. Possibly it was their decision. Or it may have been to avoid getting into suppport nightmares with code that users had "improved". Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm ____ No ads here this week: Our thanks to PDF list subscribers _____ 3-Jun-1999 20:30:20-GMT,2996;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA04024 for ; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 14:30:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA20251; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 15:24:11 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 3 Jun 1999 15:22:47 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA20098; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 15:22:46 -0500 Message-Id: <199906032022.PAA20093@everglades.binc.net> Date: 03 Jun 99 16:22:10 -0400 From: Justin Blocksom Subject: RE: [PDF] Word as a Page Layout Program (was: Microsoft Font Emb To: pdf X-Mailer: QuickMail Pro 1.5.2 (Mac) X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-Ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id PAA20094 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM ____________________________________________________________ Reply to: RE: [PDF] Word as a Page Layout Program (was: Microsoft Font >I have been told, and have learned from my experience, that Word is next >to useless as a page layout program, due to its tendency to "reflow", or >automatically adjust page margins, along with the horizontal and >vertical spacing of text, to correspond with the printer driver >selected. You are sooo right. Why anyone who wanted quality print work done electronically, wouldn't spend the $250 for Acrobat, is beyond me. Do you want a Portable Document or just a document? (remember the Zip lock bag campaign? bzzz!) >> I have a customer who is trying to embed fonts into a MicroSoft Word >> postscript file that will be converted to PDF. They are using WIN95. >> Is this >> possible. I know it can be done when the file is being distilled. Tell us why your client CAN'T or WON'T give you a PDF file? >> Also, can I >> get feedback on how you all feel about Word and its use as a >> pagelayout >> program. Just don't. There is far too much Micros*** flying around out there. I know, I deal with it daily. Do us, yourself, and the future a favor, embrace PDF. Use the Portable Document Format for all its worth. Use it at work, use it at home, tell all of your clients to use it. Save the headaches, focus on IMPORTANT technical issues, don't try to bypass the wheel with native documents, they are nothing but hassle! Justin Blocksom Digital Production Group Printing & Publications Corp. jblocksom@printandpub.com ____ No ads here this week: Our thanks to PDF list subscribers _____ 3-Jun-1999 22:03:24-GMT,2100;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA09594 for ; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 16:03:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA29067; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 16:59:03 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 3 Jun 1999 16:57:04 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA28801; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 16:57:00 -0500 Message-ID: From: Duff Johnson To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Different Actions Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 14:58:56 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM ____________________________________________________________ Folks: Need a little javascript help here... We are attempting to develop a javascript to permit different actions based on the selection of specific items in a listbox field. What I have in mind is a script that will look at field X (a listbox field). When a user makes a selection from the listbox, the script will indicate a certain Action associated with that selection (such as linking to a URL address or to another page in the file, etc.) My thinking is that an "if then" clause will work eg., If x.value=="dsi" then [goto URL]. Each selection has an export value, so I'm assuming these are what set the value for the field. TIA for any help. Duff Johnson President, Document Solutions, Inc. http://www.document-solutions.com ____ No ads here this week: Our thanks to PDF list subscribers _____ 4-Jun-1999 0:52:38-GMT,2267;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA14096 for ; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 18:52:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA09097; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 19:48:13 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 3 Jun 1999 19:46:06 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA08880; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 19:46:04 -0500 Message-ID: <19990604004949.23900.rocketmail@web115.yahoomail.com> Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 17:49:49 -0700 (PDT) From: t whid Subject: [PDF] dynamic updates for web distribution To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Cc: mriver@mteww.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM ____________________________________________________________ requesting information from the list. i'm an artist who wishes to distribute prints as a free pdf download from my website. prints are usually published as a limited edition with each print in the edition having a unique number. my edition will be more or less unlimited, but i would still like to number each print with a unique number. i've done a bit of research into dynamically generating pdf's from info a user inputs to website, it seems like one would need corporate financing to bankroll that sort of project, what i have in mind is that the prints would be numbered and that number would increase by one after every download. does anyone know of any servers offering pdf generation, or cgi or perl scripts that could perform this operation? any info would be greatly appreciated === T.Whid http://mteww.com _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ____ No ads here this week: Our thanks to PDF list subscribers _____ 4-Jun-1999 1:04:05-GMT,1989;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA14374 for ; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 19:04:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA10017; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 20:00:01 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 3 Jun 1999 19:58:45 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA09873; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 19:58:43 -0500 Message-Id: <199906040058.RAA14761@dodo.prod.itd.earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Thu, 03 Jun 1999 17:52:25 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Acrobat Reader Instructions From: "C. Scott Miller" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM ____________________________________________________________ > Has anyone found a good set of instructions for obtaining, downloading, > installing and using Adobe Acrobat Reader 4.0? I have developed a list of "how-to's" for the beginner that cover your list of questions and other subjects. Although I have not upgraded them for Acrobat 4, not that much has changed in the subjects I cover. You can access the list at http://www.performancegraphics.com/Pages/howtof.html. -- HTH, C. Scott Miller PDF R_e_s_e_a_r_c_h__C_o_m_p_a_n_i_o_n A Designer's Guide to Adobe's Portable Document Format http://www.performancegraphics.com ____ No ads here this week: Our thanks to PDF list subscribers _____ 4-Jun-1999 1:33:48-GMT,1991;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA15043 for ; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 19:33:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA12066; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 20:25:19 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 3 Jun 1999 20:24:06 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA11904; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 20:24:02 -0500 Message-Id: <199906040123.SAA20727@dodo.prod.itd.earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Thu, 03 Jun 1999 18:24:57 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] dynamic updates for web distribution From: "C. Scott Miller" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM ____________________________________________________________ > does anyone know of any servers offering pdf generation, or cgi or perl > scripts that could perform this operation? any info would be greatly > appreciated Go to http://www.ifconnection.de/~tm/e/acroweb/index.html and check out and check out the abstract on Tom Merz' book "Web Publishing with Acrobat/PDF". Be sure to check out the page relating to "PDFlib: A C library for dynamically generating PDF". -- HTH, C. Scott Miller PDF R_e_s_e_a_r_c_h__C_o_m_p_a_n_i_o_n A Designer's Guide to Adobe's Portable Document Format http://www.performancegraphics.com ____ No ads here this week: Our thanks to PDF list subscribers _____ 4-Jun-1999 1:34:39-GMT,2348;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA15066 for ; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 19:34:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA12534; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 20:30:13 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 3 Jun 1999 20:29:09 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA12439; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 20:29:08 -0500 Message-ID: <00d701beae29$bd4a2e00$97907018@cr213078a.glph1.on.wave.home.com> From: "Stellactica" To: References: <19990604004949.23900.rocketmail@web115.yahoomail.com> Subject: [PDF] Archiving Maps in PDF: Map sample available? Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 21:29:41 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id UAA12435 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM ____________________________________________________________ I posted here a week or so ago ... I was investigating the feasability of purchasing a large format scanner for the purpose of archiving maps in PDF. I've received some great advice, as well as some quotes on large format scanners. Man, they're expensive! Anyway, I think what we'll likely do is outsource the scanning and have whoever does it provide TIFs + PDFs. I'd really like to see a map that's been scanned on a large format scanner, whether it's saved in GIF, JPG or PDF, and I'm wondering if anybody in this group could help me out here. I'm talking about a large map ... like 36 x 48ish. Does anybody have one they could either email to me or make available to me via ftp? Kim ____ No ads here this week: Our thanks to PDF list subscribers _____ 4-Jun-1999 1:43:32-GMT,2689;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA15274 for ; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 19:43:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA13481; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 20:39:42 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 3 Jun 1999 20:38:30 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA13344; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 20:38:28 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: mgavin_list@smtp.digapp.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <19990604004949.23900.rocketmail@web115.yahoomail.com> Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 21:39:55 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Mark Gavin Subject: Re: [PDF] dynamic updates for web distribution Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM ____________________________________________________________ >The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM >____________________________________________________________ > > >requesting information from the list. > >i'm an artist who wishes to distribute prints as a free pdf download >from my website. > >prints are usually published as a limited edition with each print in >the edition having a unique number. my edition will be more or less >unlimited, but i would still like to number each print with a unique >number. > >i've done a bit of research into dynamically generating pdf's from info >a user inputs to website, it seems like one would need corporate >financing to bankroll that sort of project, what i have in mind is that >the prints would be numbered and that number would increase by one >after every download. > >does anyone know of any servers offering pdf generation, or cgi or perl >scripts that could perform this operation? any info would be greatly >appreciated >=== >T.Whid >http://mteww.com You can easily do this with StampPDF Batch. An online demo, documentation and sample CGI scripts in Perl are available on our web site at http://www.digapp.com. Mark Gavin Vice President, Software Development Digital Applications, Inc. 215 East Providence Road Aldan, PA 19018-4129 (610) 284-4006 http://www.digapp.com ____ No ads here this week: Our thanks to PDF list subscribers _____ 4-Jun-1999 8:03:09-GMT,1971;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA24169 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 02:03:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA05442; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 02:56:19 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 4 Jun 1999 02:54:23 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA05296; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 02:54:20 -0500 Message-ID: <50AFCE9910E9D211982E00608CF26D1E0AB5D3@mail.roundtable.com.au> From: Karl De Abrew To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Word as a Page Layout Program (was: Microsoft Font Emb edding) Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 17:55:32 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM ____________________________________________________________ Hello all, > They seem to have subcontracted some part of it out to > another party. The > credits for "Engineering" list Cole Software Consulting of > Half Moon Bay, CA. > > Given the other credits listed, I'd assume that means that > Cole wrote it. Yes, this is certainly the case - see the following two interviews for more detail. Jim Cole (of Cole Software Consulting, Inc.) - http://www.planetpdf.com/mainpage.asp?MenuID=157&WebPageID=258 Anna Kjos, Senior Product Manager (PDFMaker) - http://www.planetpdf.com/mainpage.asp?MenuID=157&WebPageID=302 regards, Karl ____ No ads here this week: Our thanks to PDF list subscribers _____ 4-Jun-1999 10:03:08-GMT,2579;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA26729 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 04:03:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA11999; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 04:52:40 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 4 Jun 1999 04:50:20 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA11796; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 04:50:18 -0500 Message-ID: <19990604095220.29523.rocketmail@send205.yahoomail.com> Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 02:52:20 -0700 (PDT) From: mike lester Subject: Re: [PDF] Archiving Maps in PDF: Map sample available? To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM ____________________________________________________________ I don't have any maps for you to see however several years back I was doing some map work & took the maps to a color lab had them soot the maps on thier camera to an 11x14 transparency then scaned these in with really good results. --- Stellactica wrote: > The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM > ____________________________________________________________ > > I posted here a week or so ago ... I was investigating the > feasability of purchasing a large format scanner for the purpose of > archiving maps in PDF. > > I've received some great advice, as well as some quotes on large > format scanners. Man, they're expensive! Anyway, I think what we'll > likely do is outsource the scanning and have whoever does it > provide TIFs + PDFs. > > I'd really like to see a map that's been scanned on a large format > scanner, whether it's saved in GIF, JPG or PDF, and I'm wondering > if anybody in this group could help me out here. I'm talking about > a large map ... like 36 x 48ish. Does anybody have one they could > either email to me or make available to me via ftp? > > Kim _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ____ No ads here this week: Our thanks to PDF list subscribers _____ 4-Jun-1999 10:13:16-GMT,3080;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA26951 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 04:13:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA13043; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 05:09:17 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 4 Jun 1999 05:07:59 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA12921; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 05:07:57 -0500 From: Laura.Dietz@arcor.net X-Lotus-FromDomain: ARCOR To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Message-ID: <41256786.003B5ED3.00@slz-01-hub01.cni.net> Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 12:07:43 +0100 Subject: [PDF] Microsoft Font Embedding / Word As Layout Program / whatever Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM ____________________________________________________________ Hi List, 1) I guess it isn't part of the list to moan about Microsoft products. The advantage of Acrobat is the creation of PDF from nearly every application, so chose whatever you like 2) I had some difficulties to get the question, but is guess it was: "How can I put the fonts from a Word document into PDF?" This concerns True Type fonts except for the 13 standard fonts (Helvetica, Courier, ...) By default you will just convert the "outlines" of a font but the textinformation will be lost. The only workaround (at least for the 3.0 package) I found is to install Adobe's Type Manager Deluxe, get the appropriate Type 1 font, and tell the (Adobe)-PS-printerdriver to map the truetype font with the type1 font when generating the PS file. Distill now with the "ever embed" flag to the type1 font name and the generated PDF file has both - look and information of the text originally written in TTF. Advantage: you will have to get a type1 version of every ttfont propably being used plus a 100$ license for every Acrobat Exchange version in the office and all that for a bug in adobes printerdriver.... 3) > > Question 2: can anybody fathom why Adobe bothers to password-protect >this Word macro? > to earn some more money Regards, Laura Dietz =================================================================== Mannesmann Arcor AG & Co., Koelnerstr. 5, 65760 Eschborn , Germany =================================================================== Laura Dietz, FIO E-Mail: Laura.Dietz@arcor.net Phone: +49 69 2169 - 5659, Fax: - 3939 =================================================================== For more information: http://www.arcor.net =================================================================== ____ No ads here this week: Our thanks to PDF list subscribers _____ 4-Jun-1999 12:58:44-GMT,2447;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA00504 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 06:58:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA23364; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 07:53:53 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 4 Jun 1999 07:51:55 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA23058; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 07:51:49 -0500 Message-Id: <199906041251.OAA19110@popmail.inbox.se> Subject: Re [PDF] need pdf to photoshop help Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 14:51:44 +0200 x-sender: mb258@popmail.inbox.se x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: Lars Skage To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id HAA23048 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM ____________________________________________________________ Hi, I think the way to solve the PDF- PhotoShop problems, is to turn off fontsubstitution in ATM. We used this method when we converted Quark documents into PDF and then thru PhotoShop (to split pages into separate files) and then Debabelizer to do the final touchup before using them in Director. Best regards Lars Skage T5 Information AB, Malmö, Sweden >Subject: [PDF] need pdf to photoshop help > >The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM >____________________________________________________________ > > > >Hello all, > >I was wondering if anyone could help me with this problem. I am trying to >pull >a page out of my pdf in to Adobe Photoshop 5.02. The text comes in fine. >However I am working with document with lots of equations and figures. >When I >open my pdf in Photoshop I have missing characters like degree symbols and >many >other symbols that don't convert. Does anyone know how to fix this? > >Thanks. > ____ No ads here this week: Our thanks to PDF list subscribers _____ 4-Jun-1999 14:15:16-GMT,2531;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA02534 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 08:15:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA29506; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 09:07:04 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 4 Jun 1999 09:05:03 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA29278; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 09:04:59 -0500 From: fredrik.sjogren@folksam.se (Fredrik Sjogren) To: Subject: RE: Re [PDF] need pdf to photoshop help Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 16:07:30 +0200 Message-Id: <000101beae93$959f4060$1901090a@n11326p.intern.folksam.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <199906041251.OAA19110@popmail.inbox.se> X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM ____________________________________________________________ > >Hello all, > > > >I was wondering if anyone could help me with this problem. I am > trying to > >pull > >a page out of my pdf in to Adobe Photoshop 5.02. The text comes in fine. > >However I am working with document with lots of equations and figures. > >When I > >open my pdf in Photoshop I have missing characters like degree > symbols and > >many > >other symbols that don't convert. Does anyone know how to fix this? > > > >Thanks. > > if you just want the pictures in screen resolution, take screen shot and paste it in to Photoshop. if you have a lot af pictures you can always set up a macro in Photoshop. i have one for making thumbnails of PDFs for publishing on our intranet. \\\\fred ----------------------------------------------------------- Fredrik Sjögren, Graphics R&D Folksam voice: +46 8 772 66 36 S-106 60 fax: +46 8 643 45 91 Stockholm Sweden ----------------------------------------------------------- ____ No ads here this week: Our thanks to PDF list subscribers _____ 4-Jun-1999 14:48:40-GMT,2423;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA03509 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 08:48:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA32574; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 09:42:06 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 4 Jun 1999 09:40:41 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA32371; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 09:40:39 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990604104317.0087dc70@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 10:43:17 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] Microsoft Font Embedding / Word As Layout Program / whatever In-Reply-To: <41256786.003B5ED3.00@slz-01-hub01.cni.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM ____________________________________________________________ >This concerns True Type fonts except for the 13 standard fonts (Helvetica, >Courier, ...) By default you will just convert the "outlines" of a font but >the textinformation will be lost. >The only workaround (at least for the 3.0 package) I found is to install >Adobe's Type Manager Deluxe, get the appropriate Type 1 font, and tell the >(Adobe)-PS-printerdriver to map the truetype font with the type1 font when >generating the PS file. I think you're making it a little more complex than it needs to be. Distiller has the base 13 fonts built in, as does Reader and Exchange, and the PS printer driver knows about them as well. You shouldn't need to install either ATM or the base 13 fonts, just tell the driver to map TT to the corresponding T1. Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm ____ No ads here this week: Our thanks to PDF list subscribers _____ 4-Jun-1999 14:49:33-GMT,1921;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA03549 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 08:49:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA00226; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 09:45:18 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 4 Jun 1999 09:44:13 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA00044; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 09:44:10 -0500 From: "Scott Hamlow" To: "pdfzone" Subject: [PDF] Acro3/4: Max number of named destinations Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 07:43:42 -0700 Message-ID: <001701beae98$a41bcd20$45a2fecc@scotth.fourgen.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2232.26 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM ____________________________________________________________ As I recall, the max number of named destinations for Acrobat 3 is 4096. What about Acrobat 4? I know I kept the info somewhere, but I can't find it... ------------------------------------ Scott Hamlow Technical Writer - New Technologies HK Systems, Inc. Seattle, Washington USA http://www.hksystems.com mailto:scott.hamlow@hksystems.com 206.517.6487 ------------------------------------ ____ No ads here this week: Our thanks to PDF list subscribers _____ 4-Jun-1999 15:13:54-GMT,1843;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA04268 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 09:13:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA02829; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 10:09:05 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 4 Jun 1999 10:07:11 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA02662; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 10:07:05 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Acro3/4: Max number of named destinations Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 16:06:32 +0100 Message-ID: <002601beae9b$d5008ea0$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <001701beae98$a41bcd20$45a2fecc@scotth.fourgen.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM ____________________________________________________________ > As I recall, the max number of named destinations for Acrobat > 3 is 4096. What > about Acrobat 4? That was the maximum for 2.1. There is no specific maximum for 3.0 or 4.0, but Distiller 3.0 would follow the old limit if forced to use 2.1 compatibility. Aandi ____ No ads here this week: Our thanks to PDF list subscribers _____ 4-Jun-1999 15:16:11-GMT,2906;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA04360 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 09:16:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA03040; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 10:10:52 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 4 Jun 1999 10:09:38 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA02881; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 10:09:37 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19990604220736.00801160@mozart.inet.co.th> X-Sender: cooper@mozart.inet.co.th X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 22:07:36 +0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Doug Cooper Subject: Re: [PDF] Word as a Page Layout Program (was: Microsoft Font Embedding) In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19990603160532.008684d0@pop.iglou.com> References: <3.0.3.32.19990604023300.007e7bd0@mozart.inet.co.th> <3c0cc12d.2488238e@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM ____________________________________________________________ >> Question 2: can anybody fathom why Adobe bothers to password-protect >>this Word macro? 1>to earn some more money 2>Or it may have been to avoid getting into 2>suppport nightmares with code that users had "improved". They create the problem they are trying to avoid. By not releasing the macro code, Adobe puts itself in the position of taking responsibility for the reliability of Word and VBA, which ain't very. If Adobe would simply release the macro source as non-supported (or supported 'as is') software, then users whose own oxen are gored (like me) would likely track down and fix their bugs for them. Instead, I can't even make an intelligent bug report because all I have is a mondo file that won't distill. Sorry to take up bandwidth with this, but it echoes L. Peter Deutsch's posts of the other day. Given Adobe's very good history of openness, it's rather surprising to see a piece of code stamped "secret" just because it can be. Doug Cooper __________________________________________________ 1425 VP Tower, 21/45 Soi Chawakun Rangnam Road, Rajthevi, Bangkok, 10400 doug@th.net (662) 246-8946 fax (662) 246-8789 Southeast Asian Software Research Center, Bangkok http://seasrc.th.net --> SEASRC Web site http://seasrc.th.net/sealang --> SEALANG Web site ____ No ads here this week: Our thanks to PDF list subscribers _____ 4-Jun-1999 16:00:09-GMT,1880;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA05835 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 10:00:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA06889; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 10:53:37 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 4 Jun 1999 10:51:55 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA06665; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 10:51:53 -0500 Content-return: allowed Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 11:51:35 -0400 From: "Lavelle, James (FUSA)" Subject: [PDF] Box for hyperlink offset from link To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM ____________________________________________________________ Hi folks: I am using Word 97 and then creating PDF using Acrobat 4 on Windows NT. In Word, I have a table. In one column I have links to other PDF files. My problem is that the little box that Acrobat creates for the hot spot for the link is offset from the text that I have marked as the hyperlink. I want the entire line of text to be active. I have tried centering the text as well as left-aligning it. That does not affect the box at all. Any thoughts? Thanks in advance. ____ No ads here this week: Our thanks to PDF list subscribers _____ 4-Jun-1999 16:27:58-GMT,2776;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA06664 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 10:27:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA09184; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 11:23:05 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 4 Jun 1999 11:21:20 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA08970; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 11:21:19 -0500 From: Laura.Dietz@arcor.net X-Lotus-FromDomain: ARCOR To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <41256786.005B1D87.00@slz-01-hub01.cni.net> Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 17:40:09 +0100 Subject: Antwort: Re: [PDF] Microsoft Font Embedding / Word As Layout Program / whatever Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM ____________________________________________________________ Hi Steve, Steve Rindsberg 04.06.99 15:43 Bitte antworten an pdf@lists.pdfzone.com An: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Kopie: (Blindkopie: Laura Dietz/FIO_EXT/Eschborn/Arcor) Thema: Re: [PDF] Microsoft Font Embedding / Word As Layout Program / whatever Hi Steve, >>This concerns True Type fonts except for the 13 standard fonts >I think you're making it a little more complex than it needs to be. >Distiller has the base 13 fonts built in, as does Reader and Exchange, and >the PS printer driver knows about them as well. I meant any ttfs but NOT the 13 standard fonts morover the PS printerdriver doesn't know anything about the standard fonts, its distiller that ignores them... >just tell the driver to map TT to the corresponding T1. My printerdriver (adobePS) does not allow me to map any T1 font, as long as ATM is not installed ... or have i missed something? Regards, Laura Dietz =================================================================== Mannesmann Arcor AG & Co., Koelnerstr. 5, 65760 Eschborn , Germany =================================================================== Laura Dietz, FIO E-Mail: Laura.Dietz@arcor.net Phone: +49 69 2169 - 5659, Fax: - 3939 =================================================================== For more information: http://www.arcor.net =================================================================== ____ No ads here this week: Our thanks to PDF list subscribers _____ 4-Jun-1999 16:42:00-GMT,3411;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA07113 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 10:41:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA10301; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 11:36:35 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 4 Jun 1999 11:35:23 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA10140; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 11:35:21 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19990604093930.0098d720@stonewall.george.com> X-Sender: pcopelan@stonewall.george.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 09:39:30 +0100 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Patti Copeland Subject: [RE: [PDF] Acrobat Exchange Error Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM ____________________________________________________________ Hello... please.. I have still not received any answer from anybody on this Acrobat Exchange error and I am still experiencing the problem. Maybe Aandi or Dov or anyone can send me in the appropriate direction. thanks in advance.. Windows NT 4.0 Acrobat Exchange 3.0 After having launched PDFMaker in Word97 to Distill a file, or after launching Exchange after having produced a PDF from PageMaker 6.5... as it appeared to launch Exchange to view the PDF, I get the following error: Dr. Watson for WindowsNT error An application error has occurred and an application error log has been generated. AcroEx32.exe Exception: access violation [0xc0000005],Address:0x032fc313 (each time this happens the address # is different) If you just try to double click on a PDF file, you get the following message in addition to the above Dr Watson message "Cannot find the file....(gives location/tree and/ filename) [or one of its components]. Make sure the path and filename are correct and that all required libraries are available." There was a PDF file generated, just can't open it (or any other PDF file) I found the error log... App: (pid=212) (though other occurrances give different pid#'s) Exception number: c0000005 (access violation) (can give other clips off the error log, if needed) 2. Are there suggestions on why this occurred and what to do I have not run into this before. Exchange has worked fine as of up until last Thursday (about 3 weeks ago) when I used it last. And I have used PDFMaker and it has launched Exchange to view the file. It was suggested that I uninstall Acrobat and reinstall. I did that, Was then able to process my file, but when trying to process the next file, had the same thing happened again. Will be glad to supply any other info needed, just ask. Thanks, in advance Patti Patti Copeland Digital Imaging Technician George Lithograph, PAA George Lithograph [415] 715-2400 pcopelan@george.com ____ No ads here this week: Our thanks to PDF list subscribers _____ 4-Jun-1999 16:49:37-GMT,1943;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA07344 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 10:49:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA11116; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 11:45:19 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 4 Jun 1999 11:44:10 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA11014; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 11:44:09 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Acrobat Exchange Error Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 17:43:40 +0100 Message-ID: <002701beaea9$66f21600$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.19990604093930.0098d720@stonewall.george.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM ____________________________________________________________ > I have still not received any answer from anybody on this > Acrobat Exchange > error and I am still experiencing the problem. > Maybe Aandi or Dov or anyone can send me in the appropriate direction. > thanks in advance.. I haven't seen any similar reports, and from the description, I can't even guess what is wrong. So I'd suggest tech support should be your next call. Aandi ____ No ads here this week: Our thanks to PDF list subscribers _____ 4-Jun-1999 18:26:05-GMT,2461;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA10751 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 12:26:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA19005; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 13:18:33 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 4 Jun 1999 13:15:33 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA18657; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 13:15:32 -0500 Message-ID: <001801beaeb7$0b2561c0$4b8195cf@smichael> From: "smichael" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] Acrobat Exchange Error Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 11:21:14 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM ____________________________________________________________ Thanks for the followup Heather. I am new to Hitachi and formerly worked for Adobe; but as I go forward with promoting and supporting DDP Office - any marketing or technical information would be appreciated... Steve -----Original Message----- From: Aandi Inston To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: Friday, June 04, 1999 9:46 AM Subject: RE: [PDF] Acrobat Exchange Error >The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM >____________________________________________________________ > >> I have still not received any answer from anybody on this >> Acrobat Exchange >> error and I am still experiencing the problem. >> Maybe Aandi or Dov or anyone can send me in the appropriate direction. >> thanks in advance.. > >I haven't seen any similar reports, and from the description, I >can't even guess what is wrong. So I'd suggest tech support should >be your next call. > >Aandi > >____ No ads here this week: Our thanks to PDF list subscribers _____ > > ____ No ads here this week: Our thanks to PDF list subscribers _____ 4-Jun-1999 19:23:25-GMT,2350;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA12676 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 13:23:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA23807; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 14:18:05 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 4 Jun 1999 14:14:28 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA23509; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 14:14:26 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990604151702.00864c20@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 15:17:02 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] Word as a Page Layout Program (was: Microsoft Font Embedding) In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19990604220736.00801160@mozart.inet.co.th> References: <3.0.5.32.19990603160532.008684d0@pop.iglou.com> <3.0.3.32.19990604023300.007e7bd0@mozart.inet.co.th> <3c0cc12d.2488238e@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM ____________________________________________________________ > If Adobe would simply release the macro source as non-supported >(or supported 'as is') software, then users whose own oxen are gored >(like me) would likely track down and fix their bugs for them. Or do what they've done with the developer stuff. "Here it is. You figure it out. If you want support, that's available too, for a price." You're right, that would make a certain amount of sense, at least to us. Of course, if their license with the folks who wrote it prevents that, Adobe's hands may be tied. Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm ____ No ads here this week: Our thanks to PDF list subscribers _____ 4-Jun-1999 19:26:03-GMT,1970;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA12788 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 13:26:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA24004; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 14:20:19 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 4 Jun 1999 14:18:58 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA23862; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 14:18:57 -0500 Message-ID: <97F39596DEEECF11BC020000C09361E5D7DE8A@MV_EXCHANGE_2> From: "Teague, Tommy K" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Creating PostScript under Windows NT 4.0 Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 13:18:26 -0600 Importance: high X-Priority: 1 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM ____________________________________________________________ We have only recently become aware of a problem creating PostScript files under Windows NT 4.0 using the AdobePS 5 Printer Driver. Specifically, all the fonts referenced on a page are downloaded in the page image. This makes the PostScript files gargantuan, and it slows the Distiller down to less than a crawl. (This is in fact the real problem I am trying to solve!) Does anyone know how to turn this option off in Windows NT 4.0? I know how to do that with drivers for Windows 95. I would rather not have the fonts downloaded in any form. Tommy Teague Unisys Corporation ____ No ads here this week: Our thanks to PDF list subscribers _____ 4-Jun-1999 20:14:36-GMT,2649;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA14169 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 14:14:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA28069; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 15:08:17 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 4 Jun 1999 15:05:59 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA27722; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 15:05:57 -0500 From: "Chad Hardy" To: "Pdf" Subject: [PDF] Break it down... Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 16:06:14 -0400 Message-ID: <000001beaec5$b3115340$70015ed1@chad> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM ____________________________________________________________ Ok, I had a few responses from the list regarding my project involving watermarking a document with a user's personal info. Some were good ideas (thank you to those who did respond) but I still don't have a solution yet, so let me ask a few seperate questions: 1) Is there a way to dynamically generate a pdf with the information submitted with a form and save that pdf on the server? I have tried several CGI Scripts that I have seen mentioned on the list but I have not had much luck in getting them working yet. 2) Is there a way to combine 2 pdf files on the server, one as a watermark and the other as the main content? I have seen programs that do this but most are designed to run from the workstation and not the server. I need the capability of combining these two pdfs without the need of a person having to do it, via another script maybe? 3) Once the previous script has ran, I should (by all realities sake) have the solution I am looking for. Once again thank you in advance for any light that you may be able to shine on this for me. Chad Hardy chardy@cyberdesignstudios.com http://www.cyberdesignstudios.com tel 678.432.9250 fax 770.957.5500 ____ No ads here this week: Our thanks to PDF list subscribers _____ 4-Jun-1999 20:16:06-GMT,2857;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA14239 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 14:16:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA28468; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 15:11:38 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 4 Jun 1999 15:10:24 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA28288; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 15:10:22 -0500 X-Server-Uuid: fc96bae8-3f98-11d2-a40d-00805f199815 Message-ID: From: "Kinstle, Joel" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Annotation Notes Problem Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 15:09:18 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) X-WSS-ID: 1B46EEDB31788-01-01 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM ____________________________________________________________ I'm running into a problem with Acrobat 4.0 and the Annotation tools and notes. I made a large number of edit marks to an existing PDF file using the pencil tool, line tool, and oval tool. Then I used the "show note" option for each mark to add in further explanatory text for each edit. Then the problem arose... On page 2, and only on page 2 of my 2 page document, most of the notes have "gone bad." When I right-click (I'm on Win95, by the way), I get a "close note" option, but not an "open note" option. That would be fine if there were a visible note at the time, but there isn't! All those notes (but a few) seem to be gone. But they still show up if I change the window to show annotations! So they're there, they're just hiding. Except three. Two of them work perfectly fine. And then there's the real outlier...one doesn't show me it's proper annotation, but does show me a note box of a different color. Obviously, something's especially wrong with it. Since I was using the mark-up tools we've all so eagerly anticipated from 4.0, I was working on a PDF that I have no idea how it was created. None. No help there, I'm afraid. I've got my call in to tech support, and they're supposed to be calling me back any time now. If any of you have a great idea, I'd appreciate it. Otherwise, I'll just let you know how it turns out. Joel Kinstle Kimberly-Clark Corporation ____ No ads here this week: Our thanks to PDF list subscribers _____ 4-Jun-1999 20:23:55-GMT,1974;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA14460 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 14:23:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA28728; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 15:13:57 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 4 Jun 1999 15:12:49 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA28597; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 15:12:47 -0500 X-Server-Uuid: fc96bae8-3f98-11d2-a40d-00805f199815 Message-ID: From: "Kinstle, Joel" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Annotation Notes Problem Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 15:12:32 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) X-WSS-ID: 1B46ED9E32432-01-01 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM ____________________________________________________________ Well, scratch at least one piece of flakiness! The mysteriously differently colored box has proven to be a buried text note that I was able to get rid of. Now I just have my mostly missing annotation notes. Joel Kinstle Kimberly-Clark Corporation > ---------- > Except three. Two of them work perfectly fine. And then there's the real > outlier...one doesn't show me it's proper annotation, but does show me a > note box of a different color. Obviously, something's especially wrong > with it. > ____ No ads here this week: Our thanks to PDF list subscribers _____ 4-Jun-1999 20:44:22-GMT,2608;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA15049 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 14:44:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA30591; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 15:30:38 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 4 Jun 1999 15:28:50 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA30393; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 15:28:49 -0500 Message-ID: <697A4CA51395D111A658AA0004005806011D19C1@NT6> From: "Pottinger, Hardy" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] RE: Embedding Fonts in Word Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 15:23:16 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM ____________________________________________________________ > ---------- > From: Sboard0599@aol.com[SMTP:Sboard0599@aol.com] > Sent: Thursday, June 03, 1999 1:29 PM > Subject: [PDF] Microsoft Font Embedding > > I have a customer who is trying to embed fonts into a Microsoft Word > postscript file that will be converted to PDF. They are using WIN95. > Is this > possible. Sorry if I'm wading in on this discussion a little late... but you CAN embed TT fonts in a Word 97 (Windows) or Word 98 (Mac) document. It's under Save Options (accessed through either the Save As/Options button or, from the menus, Tools/Options/Save tab... it's the fifth option down in the list). Also, the folks at Microsoft CLAIM that they've made formatting independent of printer drivers now (you can turn that 'feature' back on, if you wish, in the compatibility options... but why would you want to?). My limited tests show this to be true, but you should test this out for yourself. Combined with font embedding, Word 97/98 layouts seem to stay pretty rock solid. Be forewarned that embedding fonts in Word files, just like in PDF files, can result in BIG files. This is especially relevant if you're dealing with files from Asia, as the Asian compatibility fonts from Microsoft are all > 10 MB. Hope that helps. ____ No ads here this week: Our thanks to PDF list subscribers _____ 4-Jun-1999 20:44:22-GMT,1916;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA15048 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 14:44:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA31385; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 15:38:52 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 4 Jun 1999 15:37:39 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA31248; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 15:37:38 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC2C706823FD211963400805FBEDF4E63212D@gsomail> From: "Perry, Bob" To: PDF List Subject: [PDF] Open Web Page PDFs Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 15:37:35 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM ____________________________________________________________ Using VBScript, I am having a hard time getting a handle on a PDF thats been created via the Open Web Page feature of Acrobat 4. I can't find a way to Print or Save the file I created. Is the file name a url until I can save it with a .pdf extension? I can see it on the screen, save and/or print it manually, but not programmatically. I tried the GetPD.Doc but that didn't work. What I'm trying to do is create the PDF from an HTML page, append a couple of PDF forms to it, and then print. I am a newbie to this Acrobat SDK stuff; I hope this is a simple problem. Can anyone help? Thanks, -Bob Perry -ASA Inc ____ No ads here this week: Our thanks to PDF list subscribers _____ 4-Jun-1999 20:52:12-GMT,2764;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA15316 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 14:52:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA31781; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 15:42:14 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 4 Jun 1999 15:40:50 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA31584; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 15:40:49 -0500 Message-ID: <697A4CA51395D111A658AA0004005806011D19C2@NT6> From: "Pottinger, Hardy" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] PDFMaker access Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 15:35:12 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM ____________________________________________________________ >does anybody know the password to the PDFMaker macros, >so I can at least embed some debugging code? Doug: I don't know if anyone has pointed this out yet, but the original PDFMaker (that's available for download from Adobe, somewhere), which was designed to work with Acrobat 3.0, is NOT password protected. If you can find it, here's how to open it: Start Word Click File and Open Browse to c:\program files\microsoft office\office\startup\pdfmaker.dot Open it Edit the code to your heart's content I used to think that this older version was password protected, until I started developing my own add-in... and I was shocked to discover that I couldn't open my own code either. After taking a breather, I realized that this is just a 'feature' of add-ins... they're execute-only. I haven't tried this with the newest version of PDFMaker, because I've encountered some bizarre font problems with a pretty major TT font (Verdana)... it was losing the letter F if it was bold. Strange. Anyway, Acrobat 3.01 and Distiller 3.02 work well enough for me for now, so I'll hold off on upgrading until the next fix comes along. Hope that helps. ----------------------------------- HARDY POTTINGER Information Coordinator Orthopaedic Research Society 6300 N River Rd Ste 727 Rosemont, IL 60018-4226 (847)384-4219 / FAX (847)823-0536 pottinger@aaos.org http://www.ors.org ----------------------------------- ____ No ads here this week: Our thanks to PDF list subscribers _____ 4-Jun-1999 21:55:28-GMT,2198;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA17137 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 15:55:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA04182; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 16:47:51 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 4 Jun 1999 16:43:50 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA03842; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 16:43:49 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19990605043500.00a6a140@mozart.inet.co.th> X-Sender: cooper@mozart.inet.co.th X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Sat, 05 Jun 1999 04:35:00 +0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Doug Cooper Subject: Re: [PDF] Box for hyperlink offset from link In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM ____________________________________________________________ At 11:51 4/6/99 -0400, you wrote: >I am using Word 97 and then creating PDF using Acrobat 4 on Windows NT. My >problem is that the little box that Acrobat creates for the hot spot for the >link is offset from the text that I have marked as the hyperlink. I have the same problem in Win95 using Acrobat 4. The little box is directly below where it should be. Mystified, Doug __________________________________________________ 1425 VP Tower, 21/45 Soi Chawakun Rangnam Road, Rajthevi, Bangkok, 10400 doug@th.net (662) 246-8946 fax (662) 246-8789 Southeast Asian Software Research Center, Bangkok http://seasrc.th.net --> SEASRC Web site http://seasrc.th.net/sealang --> SEALANG Web site ____ No ads here this week: Our thanks to PDF list subscribers _____ 4-Jun-1999 21:55:28-GMT,2041;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA17138 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 15:55:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA04333; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 16:49:52 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 4 Jun 1999 16:47:25 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA04143; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 16:47:24 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: mgavin_list@smtp.digapp.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <000001beaec5$b3115340$70015ed1@chad> Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 17:46:46 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Mark Gavin Subject: Re: [PDF] Break it down... Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM ____________________________________________________________ [Chad Hardy wrote] >1) Is there a way to dynamically generate a pdf with the information >submitted with a form and save that pdf on the server? FDFMerge. >2) Is there a way to combine 2 pdf files on the server, one as a watermark >and the other as the main content? I have seen programs that do this but >most are designed to run from the workstation and not the server. AppendPDF and AppendPDF Pro. More information, online demos, documentation and sample scripts can be found on our web site at http://www.digapp.com. Mark Gavin Vice President, Software Development Digital Applications, Inc. 215 East Providence Road Aldan, PA 19018-4129 (610) 284-4006 http://www.digapp.com ____ No ads here this week: Our thanks to PDF list subscribers _____ 5-Jun-1999 16:01:36-GMT,2235;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA10909 for ; Sat, 5 Jun 1999 10:01:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA02937; Sat, 5 Jun 1999 10:50:21 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 5 Jun 1999 10:48:09 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA02772; Sat, 5 Jun 1999 10:48:04 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990605115047.0089d2e0@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Sat, 05 Jun 1999 11:50:47 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] Creating PostScript under Windows NT 4.0 In-Reply-To: <97F39596DEEECF11BC020000C09361E5D7DE8A@MV_EXCHANGE_2> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _____________________________________________________ >Specifically, all the fonts referenced on a page are downloaded in the page >image. This makes the PostScript files gargantuan, and it slows the >Distiller down to less than a crawl. (This is in fact the real problem I am >trying to solve!) > I haven't used this driver as yet, so don't know what options are available. Have you checked for a DSC-compatibility feature you can turn off? That might do it. Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- Brief form at http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> __________________________________________________ 5-Jun-1999 16:21:58-GMT,3142;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA11381 for ; Sat, 5 Jun 1999 10:21:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA04645; Sat, 5 Jun 1999 11:15:05 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 5 Jun 1999 11:13:51 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA04549; Sat, 5 Jun 1999 11:13:50 -0500 Message-ID: <004601beaf6e$555d6500$d640fea9@hp035825.poptel.org.uk> From: "Pat Coyne" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] Box for hyperlink offset from link Date: Sat, 5 Jun 1999 17:13:19 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _____________________________________________________ Do you have a dropped capital or text box near the link? I have found that drop caps can cause the box to be offset. Another problem I've found using PDFmaker is that when you are using it with large numbers of links it can put in spurious extra links which are definitely not in the Word document. Pat Coyne Electric Book Co www.elecbook.com -----Original Message----- From: Doug Cooper To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: 05 June 1999 00:06 Subject: Re: [PDF] Box for hyperlink offset from link >The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM >____________________________________________________________ > >At 11:51 4/6/99 -0400, you wrote: >>I am using Word 97 and then creating PDF using Acrobat 4 on Windows NT. My >>problem is that the little box that Acrobat creates for the hot spot for the >>link is offset from the text that I have marked as the hyperlink. >I have the same problem in Win95 using Acrobat 4. The little box >is directly below where it should be. > > Mystified, > Doug >__________________________________________________ > 1425 VP Tower, 21/45 Soi Chawakun > Rangnam Road, Rajthevi, Bangkok, 10400 > doug@th.net (662) 246-8946 fax (662) 246-8789 > > Southeast Asian Software Research Center, Bangkok > http://seasrc.th.net --> SEASRC Web site > http://seasrc.th.net/sealang --> SEALANG Web site > > >____ No ads here this week: Our thanks to PDF list subscribers _____ > > __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- Brief form at http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> __________________________________________________ 6-Jun-1999 21:59:19-GMT,2136;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA19672 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 1999 15:59:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA06308; Sun, 6 Jun 1999 16:52:42 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 6 Jun 1999 16:47:59 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA05899; Sun, 6 Jun 1999 16:47:57 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19990606233234.00825100@pop.online.de> X-Sender: 1025-56@pop.online.de X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Sun, 06 Jun 1999 23:32:34 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Reinhard Jaehnig Subject: [PDF] Problem with links to named destination Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _____________________________________________________ I hope someone on the list can help me with the following problem: I'm trying to create cross- document links to named destinations using Winword 97 and PDFMaker. I mark text in the Word file and create a hyperlink to a PDF file and type the named destination in the location field. In the PDF file, the link has the following properties: Action type: Go to View File : filename.pdf Destination: 'name' Problem: Selecting the link in Acrobat Reader/Exchange does not jump to the named destination, but to the first page in the linked document. Any ideas ? Reinhard __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- Brief form at http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> __________________________________________________ 6-Jun-1999 22:02:20-GMT,1882;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA19734 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 1999 16:02:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA07073; Sun, 6 Jun 1999 16:59:58 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 6 Jun 1999 16:58:53 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA06937; Sun, 6 Jun 1999 16:58:52 -0500 From: "Thane Terrill" To: Subject: [PDF] Digital Signature Date: Sun, 6 Jun 1999 17:58:39 -0400 Message-ID: <001301beb067$bbd6f720$80ed7ad1@thane> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2232.26 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 In-Reply-To: <199906062147.QAA05918@everglades.binc.net> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _____________________________________________________ I'm using the Acrobat-created digital signature. When Acrobat readers see it, they see a qustion mark instead of the Acrobat symbol. Is that what is suppose to happen? Thanks, ==Thane __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- Brief form at http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> __________________________________________________ 6-Jun-1999 22:33:24-GMT,2388;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA20460 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 1999 16:33:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA09329; Sun, 6 Jun 1999 17:29:29 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 6 Jun 1999 17:28:19 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA09239; Sun, 6 Jun 1999 17:28:17 -0500 Message-Id: <4.1.19990606181915.00a315c0@dionis.com> Message-Id: <4.1.19990606181915.00a315c0@dionis.com> X-Sender: m2456601@mail.9netave.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Sun, 06 Jun 1999 18:26:27 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Daniel-Ari Feinberg Subject: [PDF] Problem with links to named destination In-Reply-To: <199906062147.QAA05918@everglades.binc.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _____________________________________________________ Reinhard, I cannot conclusively diagnose the problem without seeing the files, but I hope to point you in the proper direction. If you click on a link with a GoToR action (which I think you have) to a named destination, but the named destination does not exist in that file, Adobe Acrobat will open the file to page 1 without reporting any error. Unless you coincidentally intended to go to page 1, this is not the behavior that you want for your link. Use Acrobat 4 to check to see if the named destination does exist in the destination document. For more detail about this sneaky kind of broken link, please read the short web page I wrote: http://www.dionis.com/tutorials/goodlink.html Best Regards, Dan-Ari Feinberg Dionis __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- Brief form at http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> __________________________________________________ 7-Jun-1999 6:17:02-GMT,1945;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA01039 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 00:17:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA05169; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 01:11:55 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 7 Jun 1999 01:09:23 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA05009; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 01:09:21 -0500 Message-ID: <375B5413.25BC25DF@showads.com.au> Date: Mon, 07 Jun 1999 16:10:29 +1100 From: "Stephen Smith" Organization: Show Ads X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] PDF into PowerPoint References: <3.0.6.32.19990606233234.00825100@pop.online.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _____________________________________________________ I have a need to import PDF's directly into a Powerpoint presentation. Is anyone aware of a filter for Powerpoint that enables this? Or a simple workaround, without having to export out of Acrobat as a EPS. regards Steve Smith Show Ads 359 Plummer Street Port Melbourne, Australia __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- Brief form at http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> __________________________________________________ 7-Jun-1999 9:13:26-GMT,1954;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA04911 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 03:13:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA14211; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 04:08:17 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 7 Jun 1999 04:06:23 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA14044; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 04:06:22 -0500 Message-Id: <199906070906.LAA21486@studict.student.utwente.nl> From: "A. Jippes" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 11:10:31 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: [PDF] Windows encoding: Distiller 4 vs 3 X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.11) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _____________________________________________________ I distilled a PS file with type 1 fonts with Distiller 3 and 4. While Distiller 3 uses Standard encoding for the fonts, but Distiller 4 uses Windows encoding... Does this effect the P in PDF? I really value the P, since I'm Distilling public online documents. Should I stick to Distiller 3? Much obliged, Arnoud. (B.t.w. I'm using a NT platform, but a Mac user mentioned this feature on the list as well on 28/4) __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- Brief form at http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> __________________________________________________ 7-Jun-1999 9:33:28-GMT,2299;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA05371 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 03:33:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA15252; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 04:28:56 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 7 Jun 1999 04:27:42 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA15189; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 04:27:41 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Windows encoding: Distiller 4 vs 3 Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 10:27:24 +0100 Message-ID: <001201beb0c7$f3d5ad00$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 In-Reply-To: <199906070906.LAA21486@studict.student.utwente.nl> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _____________________________________________________ > I distilled a PS file with type 1 fonts with Distiller 3 and 4. While > Distiller 3 uses Standard encoding for the fonts, but > Distiller 4 uses > Windows encoding... > > Does this effect the P in PDF? The encoding of a font shouldn't affect its portability. It's just the order of the characters in the font. Now, if PDF didn't know about encodings, that would be a problem. You often see this in simple-minded file formats. But PDF not only includes the characters, but the encoding - hence it knows how to display them whatever the target machine. Aandi __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- Brief form at http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> __________________________________________________ 7-Jun-1999 11:49:39-GMT,2282;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA08275 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 05:49:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA22240; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 06:43:19 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 7 Jun 1999 06:41:24 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA22103; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 06:41:22 -0500 Message-Id: <199906071141.NAA21096@studict.student.utwente.nl> From: "A. Jippes" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 13:45:33 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: RE: [PDF] Windows encoding: Distiller 4 vs 3 In-reply-to: <001201beb0c7$f3d5ad00$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> References: <199906070906.LAA21486@studict.student.utwente.nl> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.11) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _____________________________________________________ > The encoding of a font shouldn't affect its portability. > hence it knows how to display them whatever the target machine. Ok, thanks Andi, but how about copy&pasting text from a document or searching for a string on non-Windows platforms? Might it effect full-text indexing by web searchengines? (my Windows alarm bells are not quiet yet ;) Why does Distiller 4 use Windows instead of Standard encoding anyway? Thanks, Arnoud. ------------------------------- Arnoud G. Jippes University of Twente Library/IT Postbus 217, 7500 AE, Enschede tel: +31-534894116, fax: +31-534351805 email: a.g.jippes@ub.utwente.nl __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- Brief form at http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> __________________________________________________ 7-Jun-1999 14:01:21-GMT,3726;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA11502 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 08:01:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA31968; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 08:54:51 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 7 Jun 1999 08:52:42 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA31739; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 08:52:40 -0500 From: alfredc@softworkscc.com Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 9:58:44 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] RE: Embedding Fonts in Word MIME-version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Mailer: TFS Gateway /222000000/223041237/223003969/223100773/ Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id IAA31731 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _____________________________________________________ In response to this post about embedding fonts in Word: >Also, the folks at Microsoft CLAIM that they've made formatting independent >of printer drivers now (you can turn that 'feature' back on, if you wish, in >the compatibility options... but why would you want to?). My limited tests >show this to be true, but you should test this out for yourself. >Combined with font embedding, Word 97/98 layouts seem to stay pretty rock >solid. I have to say that this feature is very shaky and unreliable. Adobe has them beat on this one. Stick with Acrobat to preserve formatting regardless of the printer. Here's what happened. We had a Word document that was distributed to several employees at our company. People start notifying me that it's not printing on two pages. The document _must_ print on two pages. I edit the file and change the option in Word, so it will preserve formatting independent of printer drivers, send the file out, and of course a day or so later I get responses back that the fix did not work. My recommendation, though I don't know if this is what Adobe would recommend, is to tell your client that they should use only PostScript fonts in their documents and to get rid of the TrueType fonts. PostScript fonts from Adobe aren't that expensive. Check with Adobe for more information about PostScript fonts. In addition, if your client already owns an Adobe product, chances are good that the product came with some free PostScript fonts. You could also search Adobe's support on the web at: http://www.adobe.com/supportservice/custsupport/database.html In addition, here's what Adobe says about creating PDF files in Word 97: http://www.adobe.com/supportservice/custsupport/SOLUTIONS/f8be.htm It's a very good list of things to do to generate PDFs from Word. Remember, Word is a word-processing tool and not a layout or print shop tool. It does a good job of editing text and spell checking. Use Acrobat to preserve formatting regardless of the printer used. Alfred Cooper Softworks, Inc. Alexandria, VA 22303 (703) 317-2424 __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- Brief form at http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> __________________________________________________ 7-Jun-1999 14:16:17-GMT,2797;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA12080 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 08:16:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA00678; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 09:12:12 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 7 Jun 1999 09:10:48 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA00525; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 09:10:46 -0500 Message-ID: <76F37B2B6013D21184E400A02461E5AF014C9A0D@msexchg1.wcnoc.com> From: Decker Gary E To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] RE: Embedding Fonts in Word Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 09:10:26 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _____________________________________________________ If I'm not mistaken, the "Use printer metrics to lay out document" option in Word 97 is a user configuration setting (for that machine only), and not specific to the document. Therefore, it is not saved with the document, and would not affect any subsequent users to which you had sent the document. That's why the fix did not work for you. You would need to have all the recipients configure their workstations with that setting in order to achieve the desired result. Gary E. Decker > ---------- > From: alfredc@softworkscc.com[SMTP:alfredc@softworkscc.com] > Sent: Monday, June 07, 1999 9:58 AM > Subject: [PDF] RE: Embedding Fonts in Word > > I have to say that this feature is very shaky and unreliable. Adobe > has > them beat on this one. Stick with Acrobat to preserve formatting > regardless of the printer. > > Here's what happened. We had a Word document that was distributed to > > several employees at our company. People start notifying me that it's > not > printing on two pages. The document _must_ print on two pages. I edit > the > file and change the option in Word, so it will preserve formatting > independent of printer drivers, send the file out, and of course a day > or > so later I get responses back that the fix did not work. __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- Brief form at http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> __________________________________________________ 7-Jun-1999 14:17:43-GMT,2156;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA12113 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 08:17:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA00911; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 09:14:38 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 7 Jun 1999 09:13:33 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA00794; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 09:13:32 -0500 Message-ID: <375BD52A.FD2F5C43@pre-print.com> Date: Mon, 07 Jun 1999 08:22:50 -0600 From: Gunnar Blodgett X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Windows encoding: Distiller 4 vs 3 References: <199906070906.LAA21486@studict.student.utwente.nl> <199906071141.NAA21096@studict.student.utwente.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _____________________________________________________ Good morning gentemen . . . and any ladies monitoring this discussion. Could somebody please explain the difference between Windows and Standard to me? I had assumed that Windows _was_ on the WINAnsi Standard, (StandardEncoding in PostScript LanguageLevel 1), while the alternative in 256-character systems was ISOLatin 1 (PS Language Level 2). -- Most respectfully, Gunnar Blodgett Production Analyst Pre Print, Inc. (780) 488-6688 x 338 __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- Brief form at http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> __________________________________________________ 7-Jun-1999 14:26:18-GMT,2375;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA12381 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 08:26:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA01673; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 09:22:30 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 7 Jun 1999 09:21:06 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA01520; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 09:21:05 -0500 X-Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated X-Division: Core Technologies X-Department: Product Interoperability Analysis X-URL: Message-Id: <4.1.19990607071826.00a03b20@mail-303> X-Sender: isaacs@mail-303 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Mon, 07 Jun 1999 07:20:42 -0700 To: "Stephen Smith" From: Dov Isaacs Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF into PowerPoint Cc: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com In-Reply-To: <375B5413.25BC25DF@showads.com.au> References: <3.0.6.32.19990606233234.00825100@pop.online.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _____________________________________________________ At 6/6/99 10:10 PM , Stephen Smith wrote: >I have a need to import PDF's directly into a Powerpoint presentation. >Is anyone aware of a filter for Powerpoint that enables this? Or a >simple workaround, without having to export out of Acrobat as a EPS. > >regards > >Steve Smith >Show Ads >359 Plummer Street >Port Melbourne, Australia There is NO means by which PDF files can be directly imported into Powerpoint. EPS export is the only means available. Of course, that also restricts you from using Powerpoint as the "slide projector." - Dov __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- Brief form at http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> __________________________________________________ 7-Jun-1999 14:38:17-GMT,2400;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA12776 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 08:38:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA02679; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 09:33:36 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 7 Jun 1999 09:32:25 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA02554; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 09:32:23 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Windows encoding: Distiller 4 vs 3 Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 15:32:04 +0100 Message-ID: <001901beb0f2$83c73f80$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 In-Reply-To: <199906071141.NAA21096@studict.student.utwente.nl> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _____________________________________________________ > > The encoding of a font shouldn't affect its portability. > > hence it knows how to display them whatever the target machine. > > Ok, thanks Andi, but how about copy&pasting text from a > document or searching for a string on non-Windows platforms? > Might it effect full-text indexing by web searchengines? If Acrobat can convert from Standard Encoding to Mac or Windows encoding, we might suppose it can also convert between them. > Why does Distiller 4 use Windows instead of Standard encoding > anyway? Why not? Windows encoding is the largest and most useful font encoding in general. Standard encoding is missing a lot of important characters. Aandi __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- Brief form at http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> __________________________________________________ 7-Jun-1999 15:15:19-GMT,2053;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA13926 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 09:15:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA06306; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 10:09:56 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 7 Jun 1999 10:05:39 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA05496; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 10:05:38 -0500 From: "Scott Hamlow" To: "pdfzone" Subject: [PDF] Acro 3: PDFmark Link to Bookmark? Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 08:05:03 -0700 Message-ID: <000001beb0f7$1ee6b780$45a2fecc@scotth.fourgen.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2232.26 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _____________________________________________________ Setup: Distiller 3.02, Win95 PDFmark experts: I'm looking for a way to have a link button jump to a specific bookmark. For example, push a button on the page and it jumps to the same location as where you would go if you clicked the bookmark. I've looked through both the pdfmark Reference Manual and the Portable Document Reference and haven't found anything yet. __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- Brief form at http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> __________________________________________________ 7-Jun-1999 15:26:09-GMT,2910;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA14302 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 09:26:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA07406; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 10:21:22 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 7 Jun 1999 10:20:06 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA07207; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 10:19:58 -0500 Message-Id: <199906071519.KAA07184@everglades.binc.net> Date: 07 Jun 99 11:17:30 -0400 From: Justin Blocksom Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF into PowerPoint To: pdf X-Mailer: QuickMail Pro 1.5.2 (Mac) X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-Ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id KAA07201 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _____________________________________________________ Reply to: Re: [PDF] PDF into PowerPoint >At 6/6/99 10:10 PM , Stephen Smith wrote: >>I have a need to import PDF's directly into a Powerpoint presentation. >>Is anyone aware of a filter for Powerpoint that enables this? Or a >>simple workaround, without having to export out of Acrobat as a EPS. >> >>regards >> >>Steve Smith >>Show Ads >>359 Plummer Street >>Port Melbourne, Australia > > >There is NO means by which PDF files can be directly imported >into Powerpoint. EPS export is the only means available. Of course, >that also restricts you from using Powerpoint as the "slide projector." > > - Dov What I have seen is PDF files embedded within a powerpoint presentation, as you can do similar things with word & excel files, etc. I don't know if this is something you can use in your workflow, but if you're using the PDF for say handouts for a ppt presentation, it could be one way to communciate the whole package. Personally, I would go the other direction, create ppt files into PDF. Not only do you get full portability and full font/picture embedding (at a much lower size) but you can fold these other PDF files in too and still have the full on-screen viewing option. Justin Blocksom Digital Production Group Printing & Publications Corp. jblocksom@printandpub.com __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- Brief form at http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> __________________________________________________ 7-Jun-1999 15:28:19-GMT,3133;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA14379 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 09:28:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA08515; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 10:25:37 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 7 Jun 1999 10:24:21 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA08128; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 10:24:19 -0500 From: Karen_L_Mibus@keybank.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: KEYCORP To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <85256789.00542213.00@keybank.com> Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 11:21:01 -0400 Subject: [PDF] Java Application, Reader, IE 4 and 5, and Active X Technology Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _____________________________________________________ Hi, folks: Recently I submitted a question to the list concerning byteserving and NetDynamics servers. Actually, I'm 97% positive that is not our problem. Please consider the following and let me know whether you have any suggestions as to what could be causing the problem. My hunch is that the Java application is either not compatible with or is adversely affecting the ActiveX controls necessary for viewing PDF files in the IE browser. Any further insight or suggested approaches will be tremendously appreciated, especially any technical reference material regarding the development of Java applications that incorporate using Acrobat Reader as an IE 4+ plug-in. A member of our development team is insisting that byteserving is the problem. Some Backround on the problem . . . Using the application coded in Java/NetDynamics, the IE 4.x browser plug-in for Adobe Reader 4.0 is not launching and displaying PDF's. Instead, a blank page results. When the Adobe 4.0 reader is configured as a helper application, using the Java/NetDynamics application, we are able to successfully launch the Reader and display the PDF. Another, separate application was written in Active Server Pages and is able to launch the IE4.x plug-in and display the same PDF files. It is running on an NT server running IIS 4.0. Netscape Communicator 4.5 works for both the NetDynamics and ASP applications launching either the plug-in or helper application. Only the following have been tested: IE4.x, Netscape Communicator 4.5, and Adobe Acrobat 4.0. Thank you in advance for your help. --Karen __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- Brief form at http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> __________________________________________________ 7-Jun-1999 15:42:48-GMT,2220;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA14837 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 09:42:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA10334; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 10:39:52 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 7 Jun 1999 10:38:26 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA10223; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 10:38:26 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Acro 3: PDFmark Link to Bookmark? Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 16:38:07 +0100 Message-ID: <002001beb0fb$bdb52dc0$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 In-Reply-To: <000001beb0f7$1ee6b780$45a2fecc@scotth.fourgen.com> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _____________________________________________________ > > PDFmark experts: > I'm looking for a way to have a link button jump to a > specific bookmark. > > For example, push a button on the page and it jumps to the > same location as > where you would go if you clicked the bookmark. > > I've looked through both the pdfmark Reference Manual and the > Portable Document > Reference and haven't found anything yet. A link can go to the same place as a bookmark, but there is no way to refer to a bookmark in any other annotation. Aandi __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- Brief form at http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> __________________________________________________ 7-Jun-1999 15:49:32-GMT,2566;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA15033 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 09:49:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA10868; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 10:45:45 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 7 Jun 1999 10:44:27 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA10751; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 10:44:26 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Earl, George" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] MSIE 4.01 won't display PDF files in Reader 3.02 Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 11:45:56 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _____________________________________________________ All of a sudden PDF files will not display in my Microsoft Internet Explorer. If I select a link to a PDF file, the file gets downloaded to the browser, the PDF filename shows in the address bar, and the Reader launches and minimizes to the taskbar, but the Reader does not launch inside Internet Explorer and does not display the PDF file. I.e., none of the Reader buttons appear in MSIE and MSIE displays a blank screen. And if I toggle to the Reader on the task bar, the file is not displayed there either. I have tried rebooting, reinstalling, uninstalling and reinstalling the Reader and nothing makes any difference. This combination worked fine last time I tried it a few days ago. If I download a PDF file to my workstation and then open it inside the Reader outside of MSIE, it displays just fine. This happens with ALL PDF files from multiple sources . . . I'm using MSIE 4.01 version 4.72.3110.8 128-bit SP-1, Acrobat Reader 3.02, and WinNT 4.0 SP-3. Ideas? Thanks. George george.earl@ssa.gov __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- Brief form at http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> __________________________________________________ 7-Jun-1999 16:01:42-GMT,2040;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA15448 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 10:01:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA12678; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 10:58:45 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 7 Jun 1999 10:56:51 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA12413; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 10:56:50 -0500 Message-Id: <83277A2AE6FCD111A45600805FA785AA014BA1C6@extexmb01.pfizer.com> From: "Landis, Susan" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] How to disable Acrobat 4.0 plug-in in a browser Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 11:54:07 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _____________________________________________________ Running NT 4.0, I had Acrobat 3.01 installed and browser configured to launch the Acrobat Exchange program when viewing PDF files within Netscape. Now I have Acrobat 4.0 installed and the browser will only launch the plug-in. Does anyone know how to disable this and get the full-blown version to launch? Some of our users in other locations have Internet Explorer instead of Netscape. Will this be an issue when they upgrade to Acrobat 4.0, also? Thanks very much, Susan __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- Brief form at http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> __________________________________________________ 7-Jun-1999 16:07:06-GMT,2717;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA15625 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 10:06:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA13134; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 11:02:22 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 7 Jun 1999 11:01:17 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA12985; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 11:01:11 -0500 Message-Id: <199906071601.JAA00731@dodo.prod.itd.earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Mon, 07 Jun 1999 09:02:10 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF into PowerPoint From: "C. Scott Miller" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _____________________________________________________ > I would go the other direction, create ppt files into PDF. Not only > do you get full portability and full font/picture embedding (at a much lower size) > but you can fold these other PDF files in too and still have the full > on-screen viewing option. I agree with this appraisal - for font embedding, compression, and file portability, if for no other reasons. In fact, if you ever create a PowerPoint presentation, carry a PDF version of it around with you as a backup - you can play it anywhere on anybody's machine. I made this point during a PDF presentation at the Getty. Later that same day I saw a Macworld feature writer flustered because he assumed they had the latest version of PowerPoint on their machines. His only training presentation backup was paper printouts. However, if you are "hell-bent" on importing PDF vector graphics into PowerPoint, I would open the PDF in Illustrator (assuming font compliance throughout), save as EPS, and import that into PowerPoint. -- HTH, C. Scott Miller PDF R_e_s_e_a_r_c_h__C_o_m_p_a_n_i_o_n A Designer's Guide to Adobe's Portable Document Format http://www.performancegraphics.com __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- Brief form at http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> __________________________________________________ 7-Jun-1999 16:54:36-GMT,4240;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA17276 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 10:54:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA17040; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 11:47:03 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 7 Jun 1999 11:45:09 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA16856; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 11:45:06 -0500 From: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?Carlos_Gonz=E1lez?=" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] PDF into PowerPoint Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 18:43:20 +0200 Message-ID: <01beb104$ed259000$a963513e@none.servicom.es> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _____________________________________________________ I also agree with this aproach but... There's only one thing it's missing in PDF. Powerpoint animations. If you are using the special effects provided by Powerpoint and visually enhancing presentations with them, then the PPT to PDF aproach won't work. Besides that, if you are using (more or less) static presentations and you can do without animation, PPT to PDF is a wonderful way of working. We've done a lot of stuff this way, and worked always fine. Nothing really new... but hope it helps. Carlos. ************************************************************** La Oficina Sin Papel S.L. Carlos Gonzalez Marti Director General Cristóbal Bordiú, 63 28003 Madrid (Spain) Tel: + 34 915 344 348 Fax: + 34 915 531 508 e-mail: laoficinasinpapel@mad.servicom.es ************************************************************** -----Original Message----- De: C. Scott Miller Para: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Fecha: lunes 7 de junio de 1999 18:07 Asunto: Re: [PDF] PDF into PowerPoint >The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM >_____________________________________________________ > >> I would go the other direction, create ppt files into PDF. Not only >> do you get full portability and full font/picture embedding (at a much lower >size) >> but you can fold these other PDF files in too and still have the full >> on-screen viewing option. > >I agree with this appraisal - for font embedding, compression, and file >portability, if for no other reasons. In fact, if you ever create a >PowerPoint presentation, carry a PDF version of it around with you as a >backup - you can play it anywhere on anybody's machine. > >I made this point during a PDF presentation at the Getty. Later that same >day I saw a Macworld feature writer flustered because he assumed they had >the latest version of PowerPoint on their machines. His only training >presentation backup was paper printouts. > >However, if you are "hell-bent" on importing PDF vector graphics into >PowerPoint, I would open the PDF in Illustrator (assuming font compliance >throughout), save as EPS, and import that into PowerPoint. > >-- >HTH, >C. Scott Miller > >PDF R_e_s_e_a_r_c_h__C_o_m_p_a_n_i_o_n >A Designer's Guide to Adobe's Portable Document Format >http://www.performancegraphics.com > >__________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ ><- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> ><- Brief form at http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> >__________________________________________________ > __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- Brief form at http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> __________________________________________________ 7-Jun-1999 17:07:30-GMT,2083;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA17705 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 11:07:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA18674; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 12:03:17 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 7 Jun 1999 12:01:42 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA18433; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 12:01:41 -0500 Message-Id: <199906071701.MAA18433@everglades.binc.net> From: "Michael Thompson" Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 10:52:48 -0600 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Changing background color? Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _____________________________________________________ We're having an interesting discussion on a list regarding e-books. One person specifically like html better than PDF for producing books on screen because he has vision problems and likes to adjust the background color of the document to a light gray, rather than white, which glares. I use PageMaker and Distiller to create PDFs of documents, but the format is generally a screen representation of a print document. Is there any way on the user end to change things like the background color? My general thought was no, but I thought I'd check with the knowledgable folks on this list. TIA ******Michael P. Thompson****** ****Director of Communications*** ***thompson@resourcenter.com*** __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- Brief form at http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> __________________________________________________ 7-Jun-1999 17:27:16-GMT,2714;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA18378 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 11:27:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA20273; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 12:21:31 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 7 Jun 1999 12:20:03 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA20142; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 12:20:00 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Changing background color? Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 18:19:40 +0100 Message-ID: <002501beb109$ed946520$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 In-Reply-To: <199906071701.MAA18433@everglades.binc.net> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _____________________________________________________ > We're having an interesting discussion on a list regarding > e-books. One > person specifically like html better than PDF for producing books on > screen because he has vision problems and likes to adjust the > background color of the document to a light gray, rather than white, > which glares. Although I have a lot of sympathy for this position, I do wonder whether the people making this sort of request just haven't found the brightness and contrast settings on their monitor. Sure, white is unbearably bright if the settings are too high, but on all my monitors white is very much faded - comparable to newsprint. I have spoken to people who complain about eye strain while using their monitor - one set so bright I can hardly look at it. > > I use PageMaker and Distiller to create PDFs of documents, but the > format is generally a screen representation of a print > document. Is there > any way on the user end to change things like the background color? No, there is not. Aandi __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- Brief form at http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> __________________________________________________ 7-Jun-1999 17:31:04-GMT,2046;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA18463 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 11:30:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA20676; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 12:26:51 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 7 Jun 1999 12:25:34 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA20561; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 12:25:33 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: SENATE From: "Timothy Madel" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <85256789.005F5A7F.00@sov.state.va.us> Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 13:24:15 -0400 Subject: Re: [PDF] Changing background color? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _____________________________________________________ I work in a legislative environment and we use different colored paper to represent the different stages a bill is in. We wanted to incorporate this same feature in our on-line versions. We chose to use PDF because it gave us the exact duplicate of the printed bill, but our investigation uncovered the fact that you can't change the background color. We may move back to HTML versions, but will have to figure out a way to handle the page and line numbers. Hopefully Adobe may be able to figure something out for future versions. Tim Madel __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- Brief form at http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> __________________________________________________ 7-Jun-1999 17:49:56-GMT,2872;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA19104 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 11:49:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA22311; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 12:45:42 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 7 Jun 1999 12:44:18 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA22184; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 12:44:17 -0500 X-Sender: prodok@pop.eunet.ch Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199906071701.MAA18433@everglades.binc.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 19:34:13 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Max Wyss Subject: Re: [PDF] Changing background color? Cc: "Michael Thompson" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _____________________________________________________ Michael, there is no easy way to change the background color, as far as I know (I may be wrong; it would not be the first time). However, isn't readability best when the contrast is highest? If the white glares, it makes me believe that the monitor that person uses needs a readjusting (go there, do so and _lock the brightness and contrast dials_ ). Hope, this can help. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch WWW: http://www.prodok.ch/prodok [ Bridging the Knowledge Gap ] ______________________ >We're having an interesting discussion on a list regarding e-books. One >person specifically like html better than PDF for producing books on >screen because he has vision problems and likes to adjust the >background color of the document to a light gray, rather than white, >which glares. > >I use PageMaker and Distiller to create PDFs of documents, but the >format is generally a screen representation of a print document. Is there >any way on the user end to change things like the background color? >My general thought was no, but I thought I'd check with the >knowledgable folks on this list. > >TIA > > > >******Michael P. Thompson****** __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- Brief form at http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> __________________________________________________ 7-Jun-1999 18:06:46-GMT,2954;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA19696 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 12:06:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA24070; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 13:01:01 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 7 Jun 1999 12:59:31 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA23866; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 12:59:30 -0500 Content-return: allowed Date: Mon, 07 Jun 1999 13:59:13 -0400 From: "Lavelle, James (FUSA)" Subject: RE: [PDF] Changing background color? To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _____________________________________________________ Tim: What are you using to produce your original document? If you are using Word, you can create a colored watermark with your drawing tools in your header or footer than you can extend to cover the entire page. This will convert to PDF. > -----Original Message----- > From: Timothy Madel [SMTP:tmadel@sov.state.va.us] > Sent: Monday, June 07, 1999 1:24 PM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: Re: [PDF] Changing background color? > > The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM > _____________________________________________________ > > I work in a legislative environment and we use different colored paper to > represent the different stages a bill is in. We wanted to incorporate > this > same feature in our on-line versions. We chose to use PDF because it gave > us the exact duplicate of the printed bill, but our investigation > uncovered > the fact that you can't change the background color. > > We may move back to HTML versions, but will have to figure out a way to > handle the page and line numbers. > > Hopefully Adobe may be able to figure something out for future versions. > > Tim Madel > > > > __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ > <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> > <- Brief form at http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> > __________________________________________________ __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- Brief form at http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> __________________________________________________ 7-Jun-1999 18:13:35-GMT,2323;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA19911 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 12:13:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA24713; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 13:08:12 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 7 Jun 1999 13:07:01 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA24534; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 13:07:00 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990607110711.02ccd2e0@mail-345> X-Sender: dsites@mail-345 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Mon, 07 Jun 1999 11:07:11 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: "Richard L. Sites" Subject: Re: [PDF] Digital Signature In-Reply-To: <001301beb067$bbd6f720$80ed7ad1@thane> References: <199906062147.QAA05918@everglades.binc.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _____________________________________________________ At 05:58 PM 6/6/99 -0400, you wrote: >The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM >_____________________________________________________ > >I'm using the Acrobat-created digital signature. When Acrobat readers see >it, they see a qustion mark instead of the Acrobat symbol. Is that what is >suppose[d] to happen? > Yes. The question mark indicates that the signature has not been validated. A validated signature instead shows the logo of the company whose plugin validated the signature. A signature that fals validation shows a large red X. Only full Acrobat can create and validate sdigital signatures; Reader can only display and print them in unvalidated form. /dick __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- Brief form at http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> __________________________________________________ 7-Jun-1999 18:22:37-GMT,2481;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA20204 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 12:22:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA25633; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 13:17:34 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 7 Jun 1999 13:16:10 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA25429; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 13:16:07 -0500 Message-ID: From: Glunz Wolfgang To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] PDF into PowerPoint Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 20:17:41 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _____________________________________________________ Yes there is, look at: http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Network/1958/importps/ Wolfgang > -----Original Message----- > From: Stephen Smith [SMTP:steve.smith@showads.com.au] > Sent: Monday, June 07, 1999 7:10 AM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: [PDF] PDF into PowerPoint > > The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM > _____________________________________________________ > > I have a need to import PDF's directly into a Powerpoint presentation. > Is anyone aware of a filter for Powerpoint that enables this? Or a > simple workaround, without having to export out of Acrobat as a EPS. > > regards > > Steve Smith > Show Ads > 359 Plummer Street > Port Melbourne, Australia > > > __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ > <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> > <- Brief form at http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> > __________________________________________________ __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- Brief form at http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> __________________________________________________ 7-Jun-1999 19:03:44-GMT,3147;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA21416 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 13:03:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA29584; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 13:57:42 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 7 Jun 1999 13:56:18 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA29342; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 13:56:17 -0500 X-Sender: prodok@pop.eunet.ch Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <85256789.005F5A7F.00@sov.state.va.us> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 20:58:02 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Max Wyss Subject: Re: [PDF] Changing background color? Cc: "Timothy Madel" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _____________________________________________________ Tim, if it is an option, you could create a form field along one of the borders of the document and colorize it in the appropriate color. This field would represent a color bar, be a text field, read-only, displaying, but not printing (or maybe printing). It might be worthwile to combine this with a field where the actual status is spelled out, and use a JavaScript which automatically changes the color. If you have the same document, and its status changes, you can also use a FDF file to update the status field, and when you then load the document, that color bar gets colorized accordingly. You can use a very basic EPS file containing the appropriate PDFMARK commands to insert this feature into your source document. Hope, this can help. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch WWW: http://www.prodok.ch/prodok [ Bridging the Knowledge Gap ] ______________________ >I work in a legislative environment and we use different colored paper to >represent the different stages a bill is in. We wanted to incorporate this >same feature in our on-line versions. We chose to use PDF because it gave >us the exact duplicate of the printed bill, but our investigation uncovered >the fact that you can't change the background color. > >We may move back to HTML versions, but will have to figure out a way to >handle the page and line numbers. > >Hopefully Adobe may be able to figure something out for future versions. > >Tim Madel __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- Brief form at http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> __________________________________________________ 7-Jun-1999 19:14:41-GMT,4321;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA21722 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 13:14:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA30612; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 14:08:22 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 7 Jun 1999 14:06:29 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA30356; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 14:06:28 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: SENATE From: "Timothy Madel" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <85256789.0068B656.00@sov.state.va.us> Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 15:05:08 -0400 Subject: RE: [PDF] Changing background color? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _____________________________________________________ James, You're absolutely right. Unfortunately, we're creating these PDFs programmatically. The content is being pulled from a TextDBMS system. And unfortunately there doesn't seem to be a way to do background colors in this fashion. Tim "Lavelle, James (FUSA)" on 06/07/99 01:59:13 PM Please respond to pdf@lists.pdfzone.com To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" cc: (bcc: Timothy Madel/SENATE) Subject: RE: [PDF] Changing background color? The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _____________________________________________________ Tim: What are you using to produce your original document? If you are using Word, you can create a colored watermark with your drawing tools in your header or footer than you can extend to cover the entire page. This will convert to PDF. > -----Original Message----- > From: Timothy Madel [SMTP:tmadel@sov.state.va.us] > Sent: Monday, June 07, 1999 1:24 PM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: Re: [PDF] Changing background color? > > The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM > _____________________________________________________ > > I work in a legislative environment and we use different colored paper to > represent the different stages a bill is in. We wanted to incorporate > this > same feature in our on-line versions. We chose to use PDF because it gave > us the exact duplicate of the printed bill, but our investigation > uncovered > the fact that you can't change the background color. > > We may move back to HTML versions, but will have to figure out a way to > handle the page and line numbers. > > Hopefully Adobe may be able to figure something out for future versions. > > Tim Madel > > > > __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ > <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> > <- Brief form at http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> > __________________________________________________ __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- Brief form at http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> __________________________________________________ __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- Brief form at http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> __________________________________________________ 7-Jun-1999 19:17:37-GMT,2780;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA21877 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 13:17:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA31051; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 14:12:47 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 7 Jun 1999 14:11:38 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA30867; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 14:11:36 -0500 Message-Id: <199906071911.MAA66054@mail.inficad.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Mon, 07 Jun 1999 12:11:32 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Changing background color? From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _____________________________________________________ > We're having an interesting discussion on a list regarding e-books. One > person specifically like html better than PDF for producing books on > screen because he has vision problems and likes to adjust the > background color of the document to a light gray, rather than white, > which glares. > > I use PageMaker and Distiller to create PDFs of documents, but the > format is generally a screen representation of a print document. Is there > any way on the user end to change things like the background color? > My general thought was no, but I thought I'd check with the > knowledgable folks on this list. > > TIA > > > > ******Michael P. Thompson****** > ****Director of Communications*** > ***thompson@resourcenter.com*** Not in Acrobat, but... If someone wants to go to a lot of effort, open the PDF in Illustrator (or Freehand), drop in a background color, and resave the PDF. Rich ---------------------------------------------------------------- Rich Sprague PDF & Digital Printing Solutions (480) 860-0050 richsprague@inficad.com Check out my new website: http://www.inficad.com/~richsprague ---------------------------------------------------------------- __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- Brief form at http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> __________________________________________________ 7-Jun-1999 19:45:27-GMT,2426;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA22663 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 13:45:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA01002; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 14:39:47 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 7 Jun 1999 14:38:21 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA00879; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 14:38:20 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990607154105.008d0850@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Mon, 07 Jun 1999 15:41:05 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF into PowerPoint In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990607071826.00a03b20@mail-303> References: <375B5413.25BC25DF@showads.com.au> <3.0.6.32.19990606233234.00825100@pop.online.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _____________________________________________________ >There is NO means by which PDF files can be directly imported >into Powerpoint. EPS export is the only means available. Of course, >that also restricts you from using Powerpoint as the "slide projector." > > - Dov True, but it allows you to create 'em in PPT, make PDFS and use Reader as the slide projector. Hey, you can even apply some security then, something MS has decided we're too stupid to be trusted with in PPT. ("Make a PDF" is the standard answer on the ms powerpoint newsgroup when the question of security comes up, btw.) Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- Brief form at http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> __________________________________________________ 7-Jun-1999 19:49:09-GMT,2904;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA22773 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 13:49:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA01364; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 14:43:40 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 7 Jun 1999 14:42:31 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA01222; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 14:42:27 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990607154511.008ddbe0@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Mon, 07 Jun 1999 15:45:11 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF into PowerPoint In-Reply-To: <199906071519.KAA07184@everglades.binc.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _____________________________________________________ >What I have seen is PDF files embedded within a powerpoint presentation, >as you can do similar things with word & excel files, etc. I don't know if this is something you can use in your workflow, but if you're using the >PDF for say handouts for a ppt presentation, it could be one way to communciate >the whole package. You can embed a PDF as a generic object which should fire off Reader and load the PDF if clicked on during a slide show. If the limitations of that are ok, then it's probably not an unreasonable way to package up misc. items into a presentation. And while you can call on the reader OCX gadget to make a PDF appear in a PPT presentation, it's *very* wonky and seems not to be entirely predictable. No surprise there, as it's not intended for this use, nor does Adobe support its use this way. > >Personally, I would go the other direction, create ppt files into PDF. Not only >do you get full portability and full font/picture embedding (at a much lower size) >but you can fold these other PDF files in too and still have the full on-screen viewing option. Ahh, that's the ticket. ;-) Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- Brief form at http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> __________________________________________________ 7-Jun-1999 19:54:21-GMT,2780;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA22937 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 13:54:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA02082; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 14:50:00 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 7 Jun 1999 14:48:32 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA01941; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 14:48:31 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990607155118.0086b470@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Mon, 07 Jun 1999 15:51:18 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF into PowerPoint In-Reply-To: <199906071601.JAA00731@dodo.prod.itd.earthlink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _____________________________________________________ >However, if you are "hell-bent" on importing PDF vector graphics into >PowerPoint, I would open the PDF in Illustrator (assuming font compliance >throughout), save as EPS, and import that into PowerPoint. > Out of curiosity, why Illustrator rather than exporting EPS out of Exchange? One of the neat things about Exchange EPS exports is that if the fonts are properly embedded in the PDF to begin with, they'll export back out to the EPS (as an option) and any x-platform font-encoding funnies seem to get cleared up along the way. This isn't always true of AI files in Illustrator (though I don't know if it works better or worse with PDFs). IAC, to embed fonts, you'd need to have the needed fonts on the system where Illo could get at 'em, no? That seems not to be the case with Exchange in the limited testing I've done. If Exchange can get at the embedded-in-PDF font, it seems able to properly include the fonts in EPS that it exports. Really a very slick feature. Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- Brief form at http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> __________________________________________________ 7-Jun-1999 19:58:12-GMT,2568;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA23091 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 13:58:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA02457; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 14:54:03 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 7 Jun 1999 14:52:50 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA02352; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 14:52:49 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990607155534.00869310@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Mon, 07 Jun 1999 15:55:34 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] Changing background color? In-Reply-To: <85256789.005F5A7F.00@sov.state.va.us> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _____________________________________________________ >_____________________________________________________ > >I work in a legislative environment and we use different colored paper to >represent the different stages a bill is in. We wanted to incorporate this >same feature in our on-line versions. We chose to use PDF because it gave >us the exact duplicate of the printed bill, but our investigation uncovered >the fact that you can't change the background color. > Couldn't you change the background color in the source app prior to making PDF? Assuming that between each paper change there'd also be document changes and re-PDFing in any case, this wouldn't seem to be much of a burden. On the other hand, the background color would print on any hardcopies people run out, which might prove to be a real nuisance. Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- Brief form at http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> __________________________________________________ 7-Jun-1999 20:06:19-GMT,2570;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA23353 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 14:06:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA03535; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 15:01:36 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 7 Jun 1999 14:59:30 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA03292; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 14:59:29 -0500 X-Server-Uuid: fc96bae8-3f98-11d2-a40d-00805f199815 Message-ID: From: "Kinstle, Joel" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Changing background color? Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 14:59:09 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) X-WSS-ID: 1B42FCFA241469-01-01 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _____________________________________________________ As far as printing the background color, weren't we just talking about a form field (I believe it was) or something that can be set to "viewable, not printing"? Those aren't the sort of features I often used, so I didn't pay very close attention. Check the archives, though, and I'd say that could fix the issue. If I recall correctly, there was a reader version issue with that solution, though. How much control does the original poster have over the versions of Reader that are in use in his legislative environment? Joel Kinstle > ---------- > Couldn't you change the background color in the source app prior to making > PDF? > > Assuming that between each paper change there'd also be document changes > and re-PDFing in any case, this wouldn't seem to be much of a burden. > > On the other hand, the background color would print on any hardcopies > people run out, which might prove to be a real nuisance. > __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- Brief form at http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> __________________________________________________ 7-Jun-1999 20:32:35-GMT,2114;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA24142 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 14:32:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA06031; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 15:25:01 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 7 Jun 1999 15:23:09 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA05877; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 15:23:07 -0500 From: dwwatts@us.ibm.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: IBMUS To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <85256789.006FCAC7.00@d54mta02.raleigh.ibm.com> Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 16:18:15 -0400 Subject: [PDF] Notify when Distiller finishes a job? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _____________________________________________________ Hi, I use the watched folders function in Acrobat Distiller 3.02. Distiller is actually running on an NT4+SP4 server (more CPU power than my workstation) and I'd like to set up some sort of notification function whenever it finishes a job. For example, I'd like to get it to send me mail when the distiller finishes building the PDF. I have a mailing application that works from a command line, but I need some way for Distiller to kick off the mailer at the correct time. Any ideas? David. David Watts, Advisory ITSO Specialist for Netfinity Servers IBM Corporation, 678/HZ8A, 1001 Winstead Drive, Cary NC 27513 __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- Brief form at http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> __________________________________________________ 7-Jun-1999 21:14:59-GMT,3229;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA25283 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 15:14:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA10168; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 16:07:27 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 7 Jun 1999 16:05:57 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA09914; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 16:05:54 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990607170835.0086a4c0@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Mon, 07 Jun 1999 17:08:35 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] Notify when Distiller finishes a job? In-Reply-To: <85256789.006FCAC7.00@d54mta02.raleigh.ibm.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _____________________________________________________ >I use the watched folders function in Acrobat Distiller 3.02. Distiller is >actually running on an NT4+SP4 server (more CPU power than my workstation) and >I'd like to set up some sort of notification function whenever it finishes a >job. For example, I'd like to get it to send me mail when the distiller >finishes building the PDF. I have a mailing application that works from a >command line, but I need some way for Distiller to kick off the mailer at the >correct time. > Crude cut at it: Bat file WATCH.BAT :START rem loop until a PS file appears If Exist \path_to\your_watched\folder\*.PS goto WAITING Sleep nnn rem Pretty sure SLEEP is available under NT rem nnn is how long you want it to sleep between checks goto START :WAITING rem loop here until a PDF appears if exist \path_to\your_output\folder\*.PDF goto DONE Sleep nnn goto WAITING :DONE rem The PDF's cooked so rem Invoke whatever process you want to use to notify you rem then move it somewhere else so the next iteration doesn't see it again copy \path\etc\*.PDF \somewhere\else del \path\*.PDF and start all over goto START you'd need to keep nnn high enough that it doesn't thrash the disk constantly but low enough to avoid letting things get confused between multiple PDFs appearing at once. careful adjustment vis a vis the timing params in Distiller ought to do it. Crude but probably workable in a low production setting. Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- Brief form at http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> __________________________________________________ 7-Jun-1999 22:10:34-GMT,2151;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA26918 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 16:10:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA15461; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 17:03:20 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 7 Jun 1999 16:59:27 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA14971; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 16:59:24 -0500 Message-Id: <199906072158.RAA18164@marlo.eagle.ca> From: "Chris Calbury" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 17:57:40 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: [PDF] Catalogue Index limitations ? X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.11) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _____________________________________________________ Dear Listees: I have received a request to digitize 850,000 files, comprised of 3.1 million pages, and and an estimated volume of 150 GB. We will be using Catalogue to index and Reader with Search Plugin to search the document info fields to retrieve any record required within the volume. Can anyone advise what limitations if any there are regarding the size of the index? It seems to me that I read on the list some time back that Adobe can only handle 80,000 files in a single index. If this is so, then is there a work-around to this situation? Does anyone have experience in this area that they can share? Thank you. Chris __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- Brief form at http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> __________________________________________________ 7-Jun-1999 22:10:56-GMT,2761;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA26924 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 16:10:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA15491; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 17:03:59 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 7 Jun 1999 17:02:55 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA15382; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 17:02:54 -0500 Message-Id: From: "Callaway, Rebecca" To: "'Post to PDF listserve'" Subject: [PDF] Looking for some multimedia PDF web sites... Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 14:58:53 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.996.62 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _____________________________________________________ Hi All - We have an Intranet Document Management tool that, for the most part, web publishes documents in its vault to PDF for web display (Find/View/Print consumption). We have a potential internal customer who will want to add Video and Sound to her files for web display. Though I know that Acrobat can do this, I have not done it personally. My question has a few parts: > I would like some references to existing web sites that use PDF in this way so I can see it for myself. Our application will be Intranet, so traffic issues probably won't be as bad as real WWW bandwidth concerns. > I would like to know what plug-ins, if any, are needed to view the full-functionality of multimedia PDF's in the browser (using the reader plug-in) > What standards for Sound and Video does PDF accept? Real Audio? Net Show? A variety of others? > The original documents are in Excel. To get the sound into PDF, will post-processing be necessary? > If the job warranted this, would it be smarter to put the documents into FrameMaker and embed all the processing needed to produce a web-ready PDF (with all bells and whistles, no post-processing...) thx for any advice.. Rebecca Callaway AlliedSignal __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- Brief form at http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> __________________________________________________ 7-Jun-1999 23:16:07-GMT,2394;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA28713 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 17:16:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA16936; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 17:15:13 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 7 Jun 1999 17:14:02 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA16717; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 17:14:00 -0500 Message-Id: <199906072213.PAA09274@mail.inficad.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Mon, 07 Jun 1999 15:13:56 -0700 Subject: [PDF] PDF Writer v Distiller From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _____________________________________________________ > Rob Vore, rvore@spectraprecisionday.com asked: > > Is there a benefit from choosing PDF Distiller over PDF Writer when converting > a document to PDF format? Of course there is. Simply put, PDF Writer is faster, but has limitations. It should be used mostly for simple business documents, like Word or Excel docs. Most definitely do not use the Writer when you have a document which contains EPS files. And, never use the Writer for high-end printing work. Let me know if you have any other questions. Rich ---------------------------------------------------------------- Rich Sprague PDF & Digital Printing Solutions (480) 860-0050 richsprague@inficad.com Check out my new website: http://www.inficad.com/~richsprague ---------------------------------------------------------------- __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- Brief form at http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> __________________________________________________ 8-Jun-1999 0:19:30-GMT,2473;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA00429 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 18:19:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA25491; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 19:15:15 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 7 Jun 1999 19:13:35 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA25361; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 19:13:34 -0500 Message-Id: <199906080013.RAA16564@wren.prod.itd.earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Mon, 07 Jun 1999 16:33:38 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF into PowerPoint From: "C. Scott Miller" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ > Out of curiosity, why Illustrator rather than exporting EPS out of Exchange? My answer was for what I would do. I haven't tested EPS exports imported into PowerPoint for any platform. In general, I am suspicious of the format consistency of EPS files - who knows what tweaks Quark, Adobe, Macromind, or Corel might throw in there that MS PowerPoint might not like - including embedded fonts as you describe. > That seems not to be the case with Exchange in the limited testing I've > done. If Exchange can get at the embedded-in-PDF font, it seems able to > properly include the fonts in EPS that it exports. > > Really a very slick feature. That is slick. If I hear (or experience) any contrary information, I'll post it here. -- Thanks, C. Scott Miller PDF R_e_s_e_a_r_c_h__C_o_m_p_a_n_i_o_n A Designer's Guide to Adobe's Portable Document Format http://www.performancegraphics.com __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- See form at: http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> _____________________________________________________ 8-Jun-1999 0:56:31-GMT,2902;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA01385 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 18:56:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA27600; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 19:50:55 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 7 Jun 1999 19:49:38 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA27490; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 19:49:35 -0500 Message-ID: From: Duff Johnson To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Catalogue Index limitations ? Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 17:52:30 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ > I have received a request to digitize 850,000 files, > comprised of 3.1 > million pages, and and an estimated volume of 150 GB. We will be > using Catalogue to index and Reader with Search Plugin to search the > document info fields to retrieve any record required within > the volume. No you won't! Catalog is not built for this.... I STRONGLY suggest you look elsewhere for retrieval. > Can anyone advise what limitations if any there are > regarding the > size of the index? It seems to me that I read on the list > some time back > that Adobe can only handle 80,000 files in a single index. If > this is so, > then is there a work-around to this situation? > Does anyone have experience in this area that they can share? While I suppose it may be theoretically possible (I doubt it) to use Catalog on a collection that big, it's hard to imagine that Catalog will provide the required index functionality. Moreover, there hardware issues to consider. If, for instance, you are storing these 150GB on a juke, then you can forget about Catalog for sure. You need to look at a real search engine... Catalog is great -- one CD-ROM at a time, and for specific applications. But it will choke on your 3.1 million pages, believe me. Duff Johnson Document Solutions, Inc. duffj@document-solutions.com http://www.document-solutions.com __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- See form at: http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> _____________________________________________________ 8-Jun-1999 1:02:11-GMT,3499;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA01528 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 19:02:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA27879; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 19:54:13 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 7 Jun 1999 19:53:09 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA27792; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 19:53:07 -0500 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19990608005310.00978e54@env-sol.com> X-Sender: thiersch@env-sol.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 07 Jun 1999 17:53:10 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Tom Thiersch Subject: Re: [PDF] Catalogue Index limitations ? Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ Chris, I don't know if there is an absolute limit (e.g., the 80,000 you mentioned), but there are other constraints and considerations that will force you to use multiple indexes for that many files. Multiple indexes are not a problem, since you can search many indexes with a single query. Here are some limitations I can think of, off hand: 1. Indexes cannot span physical disk volumes, so (unless you're using a single disk that's larger than any I've heard of) you'll have to divide the files into logical and physical groups, spread across multiple disk volumes. At a minimum, you will need to have one index per physical disk. 2. Building and maintaining indexes that large will tax even the fastest PC; index build times tend to go up exponentially as the number of documents and words gets to be "very large"; the definition of "large" changes as a function of several factors, such as average document size, page content (how is graphics vs text), and which index options you choose (stop words, numbers, etc.) 3. If you intend to access this montrous document base remotely (i.e. not just via a LAN), then you won't be able to use Acrobat Search at all -- you'll need to use a web-oriented indexing solution instead. Good luck, Tom Thiersch At 05:57 PM 6/7/99 -0400, you wrote: > > Dear Listees: > > I have received a request to digitize 850,000 files, comprised of 3.1 >million pages, and and an estimated volume of 150 GB. We will be >using Catalogue to index and Reader with Search Plugin to search the >document info fields to retrieve any record required within the volume. > > Can anyone advise what limitations if any there are regarding the >size of the index? It seems to me that I read on the list some time back >that Adobe can only handle 80,000 files in a single index. If this is so, >then is there a work-around to this situation? > Does anyone have experience in this area that they can share? > > Thank you. > Chris > __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- See form at: http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> _____________________________________________________ 7-Jun-1999 18:32:55-GMT,1728;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA20529 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 12:32:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA26506; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 13:26:51 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 7 Jun 1999 13:25:29 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA26345; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 13:25:28 -0500 Message-ID: <375C0E86.F56933B7@adobe.com> Date: Mon, 07 Jun 1999 11:25:10 -0700 From: Roberto Perelman Organization: Adobe Systems Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] How to disable Acrobat 4.0 plug-in in a browser References: <83277A2AE6FCD111A45600805FA785AA014BA1C6@extexmb01.pfizer.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _____________________________________________________ You do this in the General Preferences (uncheck Web Browser Integration) __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- Brief form at http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> __________________________________________________ 8-Jun-1999 2:11:01-GMT,2330;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA03144 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 20:11:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA00240; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 21:05:28 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 7 Jun 1999 21:03:55 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA00117; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 21:03:54 -0500 Message-Id: From: "Callaway, Rebecca" To: "'Post to PDF listserve'" Subject: [PDF] Looking for Quicktime Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 19:01:07 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.996.62 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ Hi - I'm trying to do some work with Acrobat 3 and embedding Movies (on win 95) and have been struck by this recognized bug: Issue When you click a link to a movie (*.mov) file in an Adobe Acrobat 3.0x viewer for Windows, the viewer returns the errors, "Cannot initialize QuickTime. Check your QuickTime installation." and "[file path] cannot be found. Would you like to browse for a replacement file?" If you click Yes and select another *.mov file, the viewer returns the messages again. A solution is listed to: "Install QuickTime 2.12 or earlier for Windows (you don't need to uninstall QuickTime 3.0; the two versions can be installed concurrently). " I cannot seem to find Quicktime 2.12 on the web. Can anyone help? We are getting Acorbat 4, but don't have it yet. ;-) rebecca __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- See form at: http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> _____________________________________________________ 8-Jun-1999 3:26:05-GMT,1873;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA04950 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 21:26:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA05299; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 22:20:19 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 7 Jun 1999 22:17:54 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA05124; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 22:17:53 -0500 Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 20:17:50 -0700 (PDT) From: George Johnson To: "'Post to PDF listserve'" Subject: Re: [PDF] Looking for Quicktime In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ > "Install QuickTime 2.12 or earlier for Windows (you don't need to > uninstall QuickTime > 3.0; the two versions can be installed concurrently). " > > I cannot seem to find Quicktime 2.12 on the web. Can anyone help? ftp://ftp.apple.com/Quicktime/software/Quicktime/qt32.exe __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- See form at: http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> _____________________________________________________ 8-Jun-1999 8:25:20-GMT,2275;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA12144 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 02:25:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA21640; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 03:20:04 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 8 Jun 1999 03:16:33 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA21429; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 03:16:31 -0500 Message-Id: <199906080816.KAA05338@wanadoo.fr> Subject: [PDF] blank page on browser Date: Mar, 8 Jun 99 10:17:21 +0200 x-sender: ateliers.boucaou@pop.wanadoo.fr x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: "d'Ornano" To: "pdfzone list" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id DAA21424 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ Hello, I put some PDF files on demonstration on my website. Until few days ago, they can be downloaded correctly, but I receive now complains about "blank page" files. I try with optimized, non-optimized, ascii, non-ascii , .. files but the result is the same. I checked in the archives and it seems I am not the first to get that kinf of problem. But I did not find the solution or the explanation in the same archives. Has the problem been solved ? Thanks S. d'ORNANO Les Ateliers du Boucaou. La Courgeyre. 40 110 Onesse. tél/fax : 05 58 42 64 66 E mail : ateliers.boucaou@wanadoo.fr http://pro.wanadoo.fr/ateliers.boucaou/ __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- See form at: http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> _____________________________________________________ 8-Jun-1999 12:12:52-GMT,2940;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA17154 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 06:12:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA01119; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 07:05:53 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 8 Jun 1999 07:04:12 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA00997; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 07:04:11 -0500 Message-Id: <199906081204.FAA58713@mail.inficad.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 05:04:08 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] blank page on browser From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id HAA00993 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ > Hello, > > I put some PDF files on demonstration on my website. Until few days ago, > they can be downloaded correctly, but I receive now complains about "blank > page" files. I try with optimized, non-optimized, ascii, non-ascii , .. > files but the result is the same. > I checked in the archives and it seems I am not the first to get that kinf > of problem. But I did not find the solution or the explanation in the same > archives. Has the problem been solved ? Thanks > > S. d'ORNANO > Les Ateliers du Boucaou. La Courgeyre. 40 110 Onesse. > tél/fax : 05 58 42 64 66 > E mail : ateliers.boucaou@wanadoo.fr > http://pro.wanadoo.fr/ateliers.boucaou/ Ah, we've had this one many times before. Here's a link to a doc from Adobe that may help. http://www.adobe.com/supportservice/custsupport/SOLUTIONS/3d76.htm P.S. You may want to check the date on your machine...this thread came across as having been sent in March, I think/hope it's now June. Rich ---------------------------------------------------------------- Rich Sprague PDF & Digital Printing Solutions (480) 860-0050 richsprague@inficad.com Check out my new website: http://www.inficad.com/~richsprague ---------------------------------------------------------------- __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- See form at: http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> _____________________________________________________ 8-Jun-1999 12:54:35-GMT,3793;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA18165 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 06:54:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA04403; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 07:48:12 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 8 Jun 1999 07:46:48 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA04216; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 07:46:47 -0500 Message-Id: <199906081246.FAA63721@mail.inficad.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 05:46:44 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF into PowerPoint From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ >> Out of curiosity, why Illustrator rather than exporting EPS out of Exchange? > > My answer was for what I would do. I haven't tested EPS exports imported > into PowerPoint for any platform. In general, I am suspicious of the format > consistency of EPS files - who knows what tweaks Quark, Adobe, Macromind, or > Corel might throw in there that MS PowerPoint might not like - including > embedded fonts as you describe. > >> That seems not to be the case with Exchange in the limited testing I've >> done. If Exchange can get at the embedded-in-PDF font, it seems able to >> properly include the fonts in EPS that it exports. >> >> Really a very slick feature. > > That is slick. If I hear (or experience) any contrary information, I'll post > it here. > This was my wake-up project this morning...to test this process. On a PC, I took a one-page PDF data sheet, with a b/w photo, some screens and solid blocks of color, and opened it in Acrobat 4x. I then exported it as an eps file, checked the convert TT fonts to T1 box, with preview. File size 725k. I took the same PDF and opened it in Illustrator. Saved the file as an eps (with fonts included). File size 1mb. I imported both images into a Powerpoint doc and printed a hardcopy. Bottom line: the page with the Illustrator file was slightly fuzzy and the colors had a moire pattern. The eps file from Exchange printed "perfectly". In both cases, the fonts appeared the way they were supposed to (and they weren't the Base 13, either). If this was my project, I'd export the eps from Acrobat 4 and only use the Illustrator method as a backup. Don't try this cross-platform, however. The Illustrator file made on my Mac (sorry folks, machine of preference for graphics) was fine. The preview file made from the exported eps on the Mac wouldn't view on the PC. By using Acrobat on the PC to export the eps file, I solved this problem. Rich ---------------------------------------------------------------- Rich Sprague PDF & Digital Printing Solutions (480) 860-0050 richsprague@inficad.com Check out my new website: http://www.inficad.com/~richsprague ---------------------------------------------------------------- __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- See form at: http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> _____________________________________________________ 8-Jun-1999 13:21:02-GMT,1734;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA18821 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 07:21:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA06255; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 08:07:58 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 8 Jun 1999 08:06:30 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA06069; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 08:06:29 -0500 From: Karen_L_Mibus@keybank.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: KEYCORP To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <8525678A.0047C23A.00@keybank.com> Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 09:05:51 -0400 Subject: Re: [PDF] blank page on browser Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ S. d'ORNANO: Can you tell us in which browsers your blank pages appear? Do they appear in Netscape, IE 4 and 5? Does this occur with all PDFs? Are those folks viewing your files all using Acrobat Reader 4.0? What are the PDF file sizes? --Karen __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- See form at: http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> _____________________________________________________ 8-Jun-1999 13:34:50-GMT,1390;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA19214 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 07:34:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA07983; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 08:27:39 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 8 Jun 1999 08:26:27 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA07782; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 08:26:26 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: MARASCO NEWTON GROUP From: "ED MILCH" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <8525678A.0049D7DE.00@mng-nt2.marasconewton.com> Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 09:26:32 -0400 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- See form at: http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> _____________________________________________________ 8-Jun-1999 13:37:04-GMT,2746;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA19246 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 07:37:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA08523; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 08:32:26 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 8 Jun 1999 08:31:22 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA08355; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 08:31:21 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Badertscher,Marcy A" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Acrobat 4.0 problems...summary request Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 09:27:24 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ Hello all, My workgroup has been using MS Word and creating PDFs with Acrobat 3.0 PDF Writer. Recently, we all received FrameMaker, Photoshop, and Illustrator and will be transitioning over in the near future. I have a lot of experience with Frame and have created PDF's using Distiller quite a bit. Fortunately, everyone else will get FrameMaker training, but we are not planning any Acrobat training right now. My question concerns Acrobat 4.0. We did purchase licenses for this, but I had read of various problems popping up when people have upgraded to 4.0. Until I could learn more about this, I had our IT department install version 3.0, which came on the FrameMaker CD. We are running on Windows NT and we do have ATM installed, as well as the Adobe PS driver version 5 for Windows NT. Could someone please send me a summary of any problems that have been identified, and perhaps tell me what you think about upgrading to 4.0. Are there really a lot of benefits? We basically create your average PDF, nothing fancy, and deliver them on CD. The majority of our users print the PDFs and do not read them online. Thanks in advance for any help and advice. Marcy Marcy Badertscher badertma@dbs-systems.com __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- See form at: http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> _____________________________________________________ 8-Jun-1999 13:37:49-GMT,2671;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA19273 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 07:37:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA08601; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 08:33:13 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 8 Jun 1999 08:32:08 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA08471; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 08:32:07 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990608093456.0086aa10@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 09:34:56 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF into PowerPoint In-Reply-To: <199906080013.RAA16564@wren.prod.itd.earthlink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ > >My answer was for what I would do. I haven't tested EPS exports imported >into PowerPoint for any platform. In general, I am suspicious of the format >consistency of EPS files - who knows what tweaks Quark, Adobe, Macromind, or >Corel might throw in there that MS PowerPoint might not like - including >embedded fonts as you describe. That's the beauty of EPS. If it's done correctly, the app importing it doesn't have to know diddly about what's inside. It has to observe a few fairly simple rules and spit the thing whole to the printer. On the other hand, MS seems to have problems abiding by even these simple rules, so your suspicions are well founded. Depending on version and rev level, using EPS in PowerPoint can be ... um ... entertaining. >That is slick. If I hear (or experience) any contrary information, I'll post >it here. > Please do. Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- See form at: http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> _____________________________________________________ 8-Jun-1999 13:46:10-GMT,2247;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA19508 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 07:46:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA09208; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 08:39:29 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 8 Jun 1999 08:38:00 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA09053; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 08:37:59 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990608094049.008e4e90@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 09:40:49 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF into PowerPoint In-Reply-To: <199906081246.FAA63721@mail.inficad.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ >Don't try this cross-platform, however. The Illustrator file made on my Mac >(sorry folks, machine of preference for graphics) was fine. The preview file >made from the exported eps on the Mac wouldn't view on the PC. By using >Acrobat on the PC to export the eps file, I solved this problem. > Interesting. I don't have Acro4 yet, nor Exchange on the Mac ... what options do you have for the preview when you export EPS from Exchange on the Mac? Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- See form at: http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> _____________________________________________________ 8-Jun-1999 13:56:07-GMT,2705;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA19752 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 07:56:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA10311; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 08:50:57 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 8 Jun 1999 08:49:43 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA10214; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 08:49:40 -0500 Message-Id: <199906081349.GAA73791@mail.inficad.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 06:49:37 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF into PowerPoint From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id IAA10210 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ >>Don't try this cross-platform, however. The Illustrator file made on my Mac >>(sorry folks, machine of preference for graphics) was fine. The preview file >>made from the exported eps on the Mac wouldn't view on the PC. By using >>Acrobat on the PC to export the eps file, I solved this problem. >> > > Interesting. I don't have Acro4 yet, nor Exchange on the Mac ... what > options do you have for the preview when you export EPS from Exchange on > the Mac? > > Steve Rindsberg > President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau > http://www.rdpslides.com Hi Steve: You have three choices for preview when exporting an eps from Exchange 3x or Acrobat 4x on the Mac: 1€ No preview. 2€ Pict preview. 3€ Tiff preview. Rich ---------------------------------------------------------------- Rich Sprague PDF & Digital Printing Solutions (480) 860-0050 richsprague@inficad.com Check out my new website: http://www.inficad.com/~richsprague ---------------------------------------------------------------- __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- See form at: http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> _____________________________________________________ 8-Jun-1999 14:05:28-GMT,2452;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA20011 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 08:05:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA11101; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 08:58:38 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 8 Jun 1999 08:57:29 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA10973; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 08:57:28 -0500 X-Lotus-FromDomain: MARASCO NEWTON GROUP From: "ED MILCH" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <8525678A.004CBEF2.00@mng-nt2.marasconewton.com> Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 09:58:14 -0400 Subject: [PDF] Bookmarks - Possible to vary font or color, or otherwise offset? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ Using Acrobat 4.0, we're supporting USEPA in the quarterly publication and distribution on CD of 40 reports, which together consist of over 10,000 pages. The reports are spread logically across multiple PDF files, and using nested bookmarks, no report is more than three "jumps" from any other. Question: Is there a way to vary the appearance of the items under the bookmark palette, by specifying the font or color of bookmarks higher up in the nest hierarchy (to lend them more prominence)? Or, can logically related items be offset as a group in the bookmark palette (beyond the indentation that's achieved with nesting) - perhaps with horizontal lines which could separate groups into sections on the palette? (I'm thinking in terms of the groupings one sees under menu bar selections in most applications.) Thanks for any insight. Ed Milch Marasco Newton Group Arlington, Virginia __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- See form at: http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> _____________________________________________________ 8-Jun-1999 14:05:30-GMT,2980;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA20016 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 08:05:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA11246; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 08:59:26 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 8 Jun 1999 08:58:21 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA11068; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 08:58:20 -0500 Message-Id: <199906081358.GAA75307@mail.inficad.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 06:58:18 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Acrobat 4.0 problems...summary request From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ > Could someone please send me a summary of any problems that have been > identified, and perhaps tell me what you think about upgrading to 4.0. Are > there really a lot of benefits? We basically create your average PDF, > nothing fancy, and deliver them on CD. The majority of our users print the > PDFs and do not read them online. > > Thanks in advance for any help and advice. > Marcy > Marcy Badertscher > badertma@dbs-systems.com There are many benefits, depending on your uses and workflow. I am sending you privately a 2-page doc from Adobe's manual (what else, but a PDF file?) of the new features in Acrobat 4. I create PDF's for everything from use on the web (viewing or printing to files to be used in high-end printing). I have found no real problems with Acrobat 4x. Perhaps people who have some of the really trickie uses for Acrobat, or some of the pre-press technicians, have found problems. Even if you hadn't already purchased Acrobat 4x, I'd encourage you to upgrade. Since you have the licenses, you shouldn't have any qualms about using it. Rich ---------------------------------------------------------------- Rich Sprague PDF & Digital Printing Solutions (480) 860-0050 richsprague@inficad.com Check out my new website: http://www.inficad.com/~richsprague ---------------------------------------------------------------- __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- See form at: http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> _____________________________________________________ 8-Jun-1999 15:05:59-GMT,1890;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA21768 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 09:05:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA17047; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 09:58:10 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 8 Jun 1999 09:56:06 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA16782; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 09:56:03 -0500 From: scottabel@cybertek.com Message-Id: <9906089288.AA928847404@cc.pmsc.com> X-Mailer: ccMail Link to SMTP R8.00.01 Date: Tue, 08 Jun 99 08:07:34 -0500 To: Subject: [PDF] Advice Needed Creating PDFs from FileMaker Pro database MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ Has anyone had any experience creating PDFs from FileMaker Pro. I have just completed a FileMaker layout and successfully converted it to PDF. It looks great, but I'm interested in hearing from anyone who uses this approach to avoid pitfalls and seek some advice on FileMaker-specific layout concerns. Thanks in advance. Please email me directly. SCOTT ABEL __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- See form at: http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> _____________________________________________________ 8-Jun-1999 15:33:21-GMT,2433;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA22656 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 09:33:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA19910; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 10:26:59 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 8 Jun 1999 10:25:23 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA19783; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 10:25:19 -0500 Message-Id: <199906081525.IAA01929@wren.prod.itd.earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 08:15:10 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Acrobat 4.0 problems...summary request From: "C. Scott Miller" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ > We basically create your average PDF, > nothing fancy, and deliver them on CD One thing you might think about is the current Reader+Search 4.0 non-availability right now - which, I have heard from Adobe, should be supplied by late summer (although I do not know for which platforms). If you are counting on distributing Reader+Search, you are constrained to 3.x. This is useful if you intend to catalog and provide cross-document indexes for your users (a great capability). For this reason, my FrameMaker conversion projects are strictly Reader+Search 3.x compliant - which means PDF 1.2 - which means Acrobat 3.x. I would be interested in any arguments to the contrary. -- HTH, C. Scott Miller PDF R_e_s_e_a_r_c_h__C_o_m_p_a_n_i_o_n A Designer's Guide to Adobe's Portable Document Format http://www.performancegraphics.com __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- See form at: http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> _____________________________________________________ 8-Jun-1999 15:57:52-GMT,2581;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA23402 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 09:57:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA22259; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 10:52:29 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 8 Jun 1999 10:51:01 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA22078; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 10:51:00 -0500 Message-Id: <199906081525.IAA01966@wren.prod.itd.earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 08:23:17 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF into PowerPoint From: "C. Scott Miller" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ > Don't try this cross-platform, however. The Illustrator file made on my Mac > (sorry folks, machine of preference for graphics) was fine. The preview file > made from the exported eps on the Mac wouldn't view on the PC. By using > Acrobat on the PC to export the eps file, I solved this problem. Rick - Thank you for running a test. That is really helpful. Now... with these cross-platform issues still a deficiency for even the relatively universal EPS vector format, I imagine PDF ease-of-import becoming even more critical for page layout, word processing programs, and PowerPoint. I wonder how long before Microsoft wakes up and starts working on incorporating PDF-import compatibility into its software instead of ignoring or fighting it at every turn. I am starting to miss Persuasion again (more evidence that competition IS important). -- C. Scott Miller PDF R_e_s_e_a_r_c_h__C_o_m_p_a_n_i_o_n A Designer's Guide to Adobe's Portable Document Format http://www.performancegraphics.com __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- See form at: http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> _____________________________________________________ 8-Jun-1999 16:00:30-GMT,1762;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA23471 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 10:00:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA22609; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 10:55:46 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 8 Jun 1999 10:54:35 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA22484; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 10:54:33 -0500 From: Karen_L_Mibus@keybank.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: KEYCORP To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <8525678A.00572B1E.00@keybank.com> Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 11:54:11 -0400 Subject: Re: [PDF] Acrobat 4.0 problems...summary request Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ "For this reason, my FrameMaker conversion projects are strictly Reader+Search 3.x compliant - which means PDF 1.2 - which means Acrobat 3.x." I agree except I would advise using version 3.02 because it includes fixes for PCL printing and IE 4+ OCX. --Karen __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- See form at: http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> _____________________________________________________ 8-Jun-1999 16:49:15-GMT,4015;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA24912 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 10:49:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA26870; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 11:39:06 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 8 Jun 1999 11:35:55 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA26503; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 11:35:54 -0500 Message-Id: <199906081635.JAA09947@mail.inficad.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 09:35:51 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF into PowerPoint From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ >> Don't try this cross-platform, however. The Illustrator file made on my Mac >> (sorry folks, machine of preference for graphics) was fine. The preview file >> made from the exported eps on the Mac wouldn't view on the PC. By using >> Acrobat on the PC to export the eps file, I solved this problem. > > Rick - Thank you for running a test. That is really helpful. > > Now... with these cross-platform issues still a deficiency for even the > relatively universal EPS vector format, I imagine PDF ease-of-import > becoming even more critical for page layout, word processing programs, and > PowerPoint. > > I wonder how long before Microsoft wakes up and starts working on > incorporating PDF-import compatibility into its software instead of ignoring > or fighting it at every turn. I am starting to miss Persuasion again > (more evidence that competition IS important). > > -- > > C. Scott Miller > > PDF R_e_s_e_a_r_c_h__C_o_m_p_a_n_i_o_n > A Designer's Guide to Adobe's Portable Document Format > http://www.performancegraphics.com Someone else who ought to wake up and take notice is Quark. I've been a Quark affectionato since v3, because I think they have had a better product than Pagemaker for high-end graphic design. However, unlike Adobe staffers who are always trying to be helpful on these lists, Quark is conspicuously asbent. Regarding PDF, Quark just posted another Beta copy of their PDF Export filter on their website which I downloaded today. Dont get too excited, I couldn't get it to print a simple imported PDF file to my laser printer, it also can't print color separations of PDF files (due to PostScript 2 limitations), and they admit that under using recent LaserWriter drivers Distiller won't be launched automatically when you try to export a PDF file with background printing turned on. I've been trying to figure this one out for months. I did notice that the readme file contained with the beta is a nicely prepared PDF file, so maybe they're making some headway, albeit not enough. I, for one, am waiting with baited breath for InDesign. I hope Adobe won't let us down on this one. Rich ---------------------------------------------------------------- Rich Sprague PDF & Digital Printing Solutions (480) 860-0050 richsprague@inficad.com Check out my new website: http://www.inficad.com/~richsprague ---------------------------------------------------------------- __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- See form at: http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> _____________________________________________________ 8-Jun-1999 17:24:31-GMT,3645;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA26041 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 11:24:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA30429; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 12:17:32 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 8 Jun 1999 12:16:19 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA30249; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 12:16:17 -0500 Message-ID: <76F37B2B6013D21184E400A02461E5AF014C9A10@msexchg1.wcnoc.com> From: Decker Gary E To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Looking for Quicktime Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 12:16:06 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ Might be a firewall problem. I can't FTP either. My company requires a separate access to be able to FTP, perhaps yours does as well. Gary > ---------- > From: Callaway, > Rebecca[SMTP:Rebecca.Callaway@alliedsignal.com] > Reply To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 1999 11:41 AM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: RE: [PDF] Looking for Quicktime > > > The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM > _________________________________________________________ > > George - > > Thanks for the URL. I tried to access it but am having no luck. I > get > this message: > > "FTP Transfer Failed > > The requested file or directory /Quicktime/software/Quicktime/qt32.exe > could not be retrieved from ftp.apple.com " > > You could help me again if you try this on your end and see if it > works. > Maybe it's my Proxy or Firewall, or something, but I almost have NO > luck at all reaching FTP sites. > > rebecca > > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: George Johnson [SMTP:geojohn@u.washington.edu] > >Sent: Monday, June 07, 1999 8:18 PM > >To: 'Post to PDF listserve' > >Subject: Re: [PDF] Looking for Quicktime > > > > > >The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM > >_________________________________________________________ > > > >> "Install QuickTime 2.12 or earlier for Windows (you don't need to > >> uninstall QuickTime > >> 3.0; the two versions can be installed concurrently). " > >> > >> I cannot seem to find Quicktime 2.12 on the web. Can anyone help? > > > >ftp://ftp.apple.com/Quicktime/software/Quicktime/qt32.exe > > > > > >__________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ > ><- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> > ><- See form at: http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> > >_____________________________________________________ > > __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ > <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> > <- See form at: http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> > _____________________________________________________ > __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- See form at: http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> _____________________________________________________ 8-Jun-1999 17:25:20-GMT,2331;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA26060 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 11:25:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA30800; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 12:20:47 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 8 Jun 1999 12:19:32 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA30646; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 12:19:31 -0500 Content-return: allowed Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 09:59:15 -0700 From: "Cutler, Wendy MHR:EX" Subject: FW: [PDF] blank page on browser To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-id: <2B38D2AA1790D1119BB200805F1529E801523C1A@jet.bcsc.gov.bc.ca> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ None of the points on the Adobe page addresses the situation where a page used to display but one day does not. Or many pages can display but a particular one of no significant size does not display. I remember a long time ago reading something about clearing your cache when you encounter a blank page so that you get a new copy of the file. *^*^* Wendy Cutler, Project Co-ordinator, Application Devl & Support ITB, Ministry of Human Resources *(604) 660-1591 * mailto:Wendy.Cutler@gems2.gov.bc.ca -----Original Message----- From: Rich Sprague [mailto:richsprague@inficad.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 8, 1999 5:04 AM Here's a link to a doc from Adobe that may help. http://www.adobe.com/supportservice/custsupport/SOLUTIONS/3d76.htm __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- See form at: http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> _____________________________________________________ 8-Jun-1999 17:41:39-GMT,2370;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA26552 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 11:41:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA32440; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 12:35:22 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 8 Jun 1999 12:33:59 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA32248; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 12:33:58 -0500 Message-ID: From: "McClure, Mary M" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Dash arguments are invalid Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 13:32:44 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ I've encountered an error I've never seen before. We have a document containing a graphic, and when Reader or Exchange (version 3.01RA) tries to display the page with the graphic I get the error message "There was an error processing a page. Dash arguments are invalid" The document originated in Microsoft Word 7.0 and the graphic is an imported WMF file. We are using the Adobe PS 4.2 driver on a Windows 95 machine. The graphic prints fine from Word, and Distiller (version 3.02) reports no errors when creating the PDF file. I get the same error in both Reader 3 and Reader 4. Has anybody else ever encountered this error? I'd be happy to send anybody the PDF file if they'd like to look at it. I've managed to create a version that contains only the page with the offending graphic. Mary McClure Unisys Corporation Mary.McClure@Unisys.com __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- See form at: http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> _____________________________________________________ 8-Jun-1999 18:05:33-GMT,2269;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA27258 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 12:05:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA02441; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 12:57:41 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 8 Jun 1999 12:55:43 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA02113; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 12:55:41 -0500 From: "George Johnson" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Looking for Quicktime Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 10:56:27 -0700 Message-ID: <000001beb1d8$3b4236c0$04e78e8c@geo_ws1.u.washington.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ > Thanks for the URL. I tried to access it but am having no luck. I get > this message: > > "FTP Transfer Failed > > The requested file or directory /Quicktime/software/Quicktime/qt32.exe > could not be retrieved from ftp.apple.com " Forgive me, but I did not provide the proper case. Try: ftp://ftp.apple.com/Quicktime/software/QuickTime/QT32.EXE If that doesn't work, start out at: ftp://ftp.apple.com and navigate from there. > > >ftp://ftp.apple.com/Quicktime/software/Quicktime/qt32.exe > > __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- See form at: http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> _____________________________________________________ 8-Jun-1999 18:06:43-GMT,5257;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA27286 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 12:06:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA03192; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 13:02:31 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 8 Jun 1999 13:01:24 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA03012; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 13:01:23 -0500 Content-return: allowed Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 11:58:18 -0600 From: "Hagar, Laura M" Subject: RE: [PDF] Dash arguments are invalid To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-type: text/plain Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ Mary, I have seen a similar error and discussed it with Adobe tech support with no resolution. See part of my posting to this group below. . . I called it a corrupt pdf file. I don't know what causes it. Sure wish I knew more about Adobe's code. . . > ---------- > From: Hagar, Laura M > Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 1999 2:54 PM > To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' > Cc: Elderton, Gary M > Subject: Corrupt PDF Files--Seen this? > > I'm checking to see if anyone on this list has seen the following 2 > problems. > > At work, we create pdf files based on scanned documents (using an HP 4c or > IIc scanner using ISIS drivers) or conversions from source documents using > CreatePDF or Print to PDFWriter (Word, Interleaf, PowerPoint, or Excel). > We have been using PCs running WIN95 and Acrobat Exchange 3.0. > We use the capture plug-in to make the files searchable. > In the last 1.5 years, we have created hundreds of files and had not seen > any problems with the pdf files---until recently. > (We deliver the pdf files on CDROM and also place the files on a closed > intranet (using a file server not a true web server).) > > The first evidence of corruption manifested in 5 different pdf files > placed on a file server (intranet) and accessed through a web connection > (read that as Netscape 4.x). The files have existed on the file server for > many months. The corruption manifested as pages that when scrolled over or > attempted to print gave the Adobe error "There was an error processing a > page. Illegal operation inside a path." When this error is cleared, the > following error appeared: "Illegal operation inside path" > So far, there has been no evidence of corruption of pdf files that were > placed on the CDs only in the 5 on the file server. > I checked with Adobe and they had not heard of this before or had record > of it in their database. They did suggest that the server software might > be causing it. I found that deleting the pages affected and inserting > newly scanned/created pages seems to have cleared this problem for the > time being. > Laura M. Hagar L-245 Documentation Lockheed Martin Astronautics > ---------- > From: McClure, Mary M[SMTP:Mary.McClure@unisys.com] > Reply To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 1999 11:32 AM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: [PDF] Dash arguments are invalid > > > The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM > _________________________________________________________ > > I've encountered an error I've never seen before. We have a document > containing a graphic, and when Reader or Exchange (version 3.01RA) tries > to > display the page with the graphic I get the error message "There was an > error processing a page. Dash arguments are invalid" > > The document originated in Microsoft Word 7.0 and the graphic is an > imported > WMF file. We are using the Adobe PS 4.2 driver on a Windows 95 machine. > The graphic prints fine from Word, and Distiller (version 3.02) reports no > errors when creating the PDF file. I get the same error in both Reader 3 > and Reader 4. > > Has anybody else ever encountered this error? I'd be happy to send > anybody > the PDF file if they'd like to look at it. I've managed to create a > version > that contains only the page with the offending graphic. > > Mary McClure > Unisys Corporation > Mary.McClure@Unisys.com > > > __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ > <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> > <- See form at: http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> > _____________________________________________________ > __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- See form at: http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> _____________________________________________________ 8-Jun-1999 18:22:23-GMT,2479;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA27726 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 12:22:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA05231; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 13:17:52 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 8 Jun 1999 13:16:36 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA04990; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 13:16:34 -0500 Message-Id: <4.1.19990608135005.00942260@mail.ncifcrf.gov> X-Sender: martina@mail.ncifcrf.gov X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 14:17:43 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Ann-Marie Martin Subject: [PDF] PDF Forms and CGIs Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ Hi all, I'm new to the list and hoping someone can help me out. I am a web developer at the National Cancer Institute. I have been asked to take some various application forms, convert them to PDF format (which I've already done), and develop a CGI script which takes data entered by a web user and sends it to the appropriate department via email, sends it into another PDF file for record purposes, and then presents the user with a nice HTML page. I have a lot of experience developing HTML forms using Perl CGI scripts. I have even tried using some of my old scripts to process a PDF form, but I have had no luck. I would appreciate anyone's expertise. Thanks in advance, Ann-Marie :) ----------------------------------------------------------- Ann-Marie Martin (martina@ncifcrf.gov) Web Developer Advanced Biomedical Computing Center National Cancer Institute Frederick MD 21702 ----------------------------------------------------------- __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- See form at: http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> _____________________________________________________ 8-Jun-1999 18:30:10-GMT,1714;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA27960 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 12:30:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA06018; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 13:26:20 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 8 Jun 1999 13:25:07 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA05824; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 13:25:03 -0500 Message-ID: <375D5FEF.AC4947C0@adobe.com> Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 11:24:47 -0700 From: Roberto Perelman Organization: Adobe Systems Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com, martina@ncifcrf.gov Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF Forms and CGIs References: <4.1.19990608135005.00942260@mail.ncifcrf.gov> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ Check out http://www.adobe.com/prodindex/acrobat/PDFS/acr4formssysnotes.pdf __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- See form at: http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> _____________________________________________________ 8-Jun-1999 19:46:00-GMT,3012;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA00434 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 13:45:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA13450; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 14:38:57 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 8 Jun 1999 14:35:36 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA13125; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 14:35:35 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: mgavin_list@smtp.digapp.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990608135005.00942260@mail.ncifcrf.gov> Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 15:35:47 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Mark Gavin Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF Forms and CGIs Cc: LVincent@digapp.com Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ >Hi all, >I'm new to the list and hoping someone can help me out. > >I am a web developer at the National Cancer Institute. I have been asked to >take some various application forms, convert them to PDF format (which I've >already done), and develop a CGI script which takes data entered by a web >user and sends it to the appropriate department via email, sends it into >another PDF file for record purposes, and then presents the user with a >nice HTML page. I have a lot of experience developing HTML forms using Perl >CGI scripts. I have even tried using some of my old scripts to process a >PDF form, but I have had no luck. > >I would appreciate anyone's expertise. > >Thanks in advance, >Ann-Marie :) Ann-Marie, The full source for the Perl CGI we use to run our online demo of FDFMerge is available on our web site at http://www.digapp.com. You may find the source useful for your own work. The link to the source is at the bottom of the FDFMerge demo page. The demo Perl CGI accepts data from an html form and uses the Adobe FDFToolkit for Perl to generate a FDF File. In our case the FDF file is used by FDFMerge to fill in the PDF file on the server. Then we create an html page which contains a link to the newly filled-in PDF file for the user to display or download. Mark Gavin Vice President, Software Development Digital Applications, Inc. 215 East Providence Road Aldan, PA 19018-4129 (610) 284-4006 http://www.digapp.com __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- See form at: http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> _____________________________________________________ 8-Jun-1999 19:49:04-GMT,2775;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA00578 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 13:49:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA14008; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 14:44:06 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 8 Jun 1999 14:41:29 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA13723; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 14:41:28 -0500 Message-Id: <4.1.19990608154341.00b249f0@pop.uky.edu> X-Sender: bruce@pop.uky.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 15:44:41 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Bruce Noe Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF Forms and CGIs In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990608135005.00942260@mail.ncifcrf.gov> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ At 02:17 PM 6/8/99 -0400, you wrote: > >The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM >_________________________________________________________ > >Hi all, >I'm new to the list and hoping someone can help me out. > >I am a web developer at the National Cancer Institute. I have been asked to >take some various application forms, convert them to PDF format (which I've >already done), and develop a CGI script which takes data entered by a web >user and sends it to the appropriate department via email, sends it into >another PDF file for record purposes, and then presents the user with a >nice HTML page. I have a lot of experience developing HTML forms using Perl >CGI scripts. I have even tried using some of my old scripts to process a >PDF form, but I have had no luck. > I am currently trying to do the same thing. Would you be willing to share information, if you can find any, as I am having trouble figuring it out. Thanks!! Bruce Noe University of Kentucky Technical Support Specialist III Topclass Administrator Media Design And Production FACTS Center 606.257.8872 bruce@pop.uky.edu http://www.uky.edu/InfoSys/MediaDesign __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- See form at: http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> _____________________________________________________ 8-Jun-1999 20:31:13-GMT,1773;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA01841 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 14:31:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA17621; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 15:25:36 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 8 Jun 1999 15:24:14 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA17498; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 15:24:11 -0500 From: HuBo@lrz.uni-muenchen.de Message-Id: <199906082024.WAA22189@sun3.lrz-muenchen.de> Subject: [PDF] PDF Fareast To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 22:24:00 +0200 (MET DST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ Hi, has anyone on the list experiences on Acrobat using Fareast font pack? I have tried to embed the simple Chinese font into a PDF and failed. So one HAS to download the whole font pack to read any document including even a single Chinese (or Japanese) word. Any help? Bo __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- See form at: http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> _____________________________________________________ 8-Jun-1999 21:02:51-GMT,3977;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA02855 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 15:02:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA20250; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 15:57:37 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 8 Jun 1999 15:55:37 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA19982; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 15:55:34 -0500 X-Sender: prodok@pop.eunet.ch Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 22:48:17 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Max Wyss Subject: Re: [PDF] Acrobat 4.0 problems...summary request Cc: "Badertscher,Marcy A" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ Marcy, I am not sure if there is a comprehensive list of Acrobat 4 problems around. The first place to start looking is the ReadMe file which comes on the Acrobat 4 CD. Then, you are in the right mailing list; check the archive(s) of this list, the PDFBasics list, the PDFdev list, and the PDF-PP-L (the PDF Prepress list). You find the links to the archives on PDFZone.com. For my scope, the upgrade to Acrobat 4 went as smooth as one can imagine. In some cases, I got considerable speed gains (something like from a Budweiser Pferdeeisenbahn carriage to a ICE train ). However, there are some points to be aware of. They say that on Windoze, it is important to properly and completely uninstall all Acrobat 3 components before upgrading. Also, they say that it is important to use the most current Adobe PostScript printer driver. And, but that's nothing new, have no mess with the fonts. Hope, this can help. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch WWW: http://www.prodok.ch/prodok [ Bridging the Knowledge Gap ] ______________________ >My workgroup has been using MS Word and creating PDFs with Acrobat 3.0 PDF >Writer. Recently, we all received FrameMaker, Photoshop, and Illustrator and >will be transitioning over in the near future. I have a lot of experience >with Frame and have created PDF's using Distiller quite a bit. Fortunately, >everyone else will get FrameMaker training, but we are not planning any >Acrobat training right now. > >My question concerns Acrobat 4.0. We did purchase licenses for this, but I >had read of various problems popping up when people have upgraded to 4.0. >Until I could learn more about this, I had our IT department install version >3.0, which came on the FrameMaker CD. > >We are running on Windows NT and we do have ATM installed, as well as the >Adobe PS driver version 5 for Windows NT. > >Could someone please send me a summary of any problems that have been >identified, and perhaps tell me what you think about upgrading to 4.0. Are >there really a lot of benefits? We basically create your average PDF, >nothing fancy, and deliver them on CD. The majority of our users print the >PDFs and do not read them online. > >Thanks in advance for any help and advice. >Marcy __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- See form at: http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> _____________________________________________________ 8-Jun-1999 22:02:31-GMT,2065;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA04798 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 16:02:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA25538; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 16:58:25 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 8 Jun 1999 16:55:50 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA25266; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 16:55:48 -0500 Message-ID: <419AC4196F97D11187C600805FF590A6010553FC@xch-knt-17.ds.boeing.com> From: "Meyerding, Henry W" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Difficulty distilling a pdf from prn Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 14:55:42 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ I have a document in Oracle Designer 2000 that I want to make into a pdf. I tell the application to print to file and select the default printer HP DesignJet 755CM. When I pick up this prn with Acrobat Distiller 3.0, I get the following output: %%[ Error: undefined; OffendingCommand: *b0W*b0W*b6W ]%% %%[ Flushing: rest of job (to end-of-file) will be ignored ]%% %%[ Warning: PostScript error. No PDF file produced. ] %% How can I get this output into an acrobat file? Thanks Henry Meydring __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- See form at: http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> _____________________________________________________ 8-Jun-1999 22:15:46-GMT,3025;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA05230 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 16:15:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA26928; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 17:12:45 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 8 Jun 1999 17:06:57 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA26241; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 17:06:54 -0500 X-Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated X-Division: Core Technologies X-Department: Product Interoperability Analysis X-URL: Message-Id: <4.1.19990608150252.00b69840@mail-303> X-Sender: isaacs@mail-303 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 15:05:56 -0700 To: "Meyerding, Henry W" From: Dov Isaacs Subject: Re: [PDF] Difficulty distilling a pdf from prn Cc: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" In-Reply-To: <419AC4196F97D11187C600805FF590A6010553FC@xch-knt-17.ds.boe ing.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ Most likely, what is happening is that TBCP quoting is getting in the way of the Distiller. Typically, binary files are sent to HP PostScript-based printers with a quoting mechanism to deal with characters that are otherwise considered control characters. You should NEVER, NEVER, NEVER try to distill PostScript that was originally destined for another device. PostScript is indeed device dependent, as you have just found out. Create a new printer instance with the AdobePS driver using the PPD that comes with Acrobat and create PostScript using that printer/driver instance. - Dov At 6/8/99 02:55 PM , Meyerding, Henry W wrote: >I have a document in Oracle Designer 2000 that I want to make into a pdf. I >tell the application to print to file and select the default printer HP >DesignJet 755CM. When I pick up this prn with Acrobat Distiller 3.0, I get >the following output: > > %%[ Error: undefined; OffendingCommand: *b0W*b0W*b6W ]%% > %%[ Flushing: rest of job (to end-of-file) will be ignored ]%% > %%[ Warning: PostScript error. No PDF file produced. ] %% > >How can I get this output into an acrobat file? > >Thanks > >Henry Meydring __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- See form at: http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> _____________________________________________________ 8-Jun-1999 22:15:52-GMT,2388;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA05235 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 16:15:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA26993; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 17:13:10 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 8 Jun 1999 17:09:17 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA26602; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 17:09:13 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Difficulty distilling a pdf from prn Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 23:09:03 +0100 Message-ID: <000801beb1fb$854d5ce0$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <419AC4196F97D11187C600805FF590A6010553FC@xch-knt-17.ds.boeing.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ > I have a document in Oracle Designer 2000 that I want to make > into a pdf. I tell the application to print to file and > select the default printer HP DesignJet 755CM. When I pick > up this prn with Acrobat Distiller 3.0, I get the following output: > > %%[ Error: undefined; OffendingCommand: > *b0W*b0W*b6W ]%% > %%[ Flushing: rest of job (to end-of-file) will be ignored ]%% > %%[ Warning: PostScript error. No PDF file produced. ] %% > > How can I get this output into an acrobat file? Distiller only reads POSTSCRIPT files, not any old PRN file. That is not a PostScript file, so far as I can see. Aandi __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- See form at: http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> _____________________________________________________ 8-Jun-1999 22:25:21-GMT,2315;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA05532 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 16:25:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA27971; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 17:22:13 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 8 Jun 1999 17:18:21 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA27602; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 17:18:20 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990608182106.0087b100@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 18:21:06 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF into PowerPoint In-Reply-To: <199906081349.GAA73791@mail.inficad.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id RAA27598 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ > >Hi Steve: > >You have three choices for preview when exporting an eps from Exchange 3x or >Acrobat 4x on the Mac: > >1€ No preview. > >2€ Pict preview. > >3€ Tiff preview. > The PICT preview wouldn't work x-platform, of course, but the TIFF preview doesn't work either? Have you a small example you could email me, if that's the case? I'd be curious to have a peek at it. steve@rdpslides.com Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- See form at: http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> _____________________________________________________ 8-Jun-1999 22:30:10-GMT,2684;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA05650 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 16:30:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA28518; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 17:27:12 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 8 Jun 1999 17:23:11 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA28073; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 17:23:10 -0500 Message-ID: <375D996B.EB7D307A@pre-print.com> Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 16:30:03 -0600 From: Gunnar Blodgett X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Difficulty distilling a pdf from prn References: <419AC4196F97D11187C600805FF590A6010553FC@xch-knt-17.ds.boeing.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ Good afternoon Henry > %%[ Error: undefined; OffendingCommand: *b0W*b0W*b6W ]%% > %%[ Flushing: rest of job (to end-of-file) will be ignored ]%% > %%[ Warning: PostScript error. No PDF file produced. ] %% > > How can I get this output into an acrobat file? > Oracle's mucking up again. Big surprise I don't know what the "*b0W *b0W *b6W" is referring to, but the "]" in PostScript is used to delineate the end of an array . . . in point of fact, it's difficult to troubleshoot this without seeing the original PostScript. It looks as if there's an unexpected linebreak which is causing the PostScript interpreter to take the "OffendingCommand" above as an operator, when in fact it's part of an operand. This might mean opening the PS (or EPS) file in a text editor and fixing it manually. Write me privately if that's what you're needing; I may be able to help. -- Most respectfully, Gunnar Blodgett Production Analyst Pre Print, Inc. (780) 488-6688 x 338 __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- See form at: http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> _____________________________________________________ 8-Jun-1999 22:33:47-GMT,2871;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA05807 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 16:33:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA28953; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 17:30:41 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 8 Jun 1999 17:26:47 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA28404; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 17:26:45 -0500 X-Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated X-Division: Core Technologies X-Department: Product Interoperability Analysis X-URL: Message-Id: <4.1.19990608152408.009e98a0@mail-303> X-Sender: isaacs@mail-303 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 15:26:23 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Dov Isaacs Subject: RE: [PDF] Difficulty distilling a pdf from prn In-Reply-To: <000801beb1fb$854d5ce0$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> References: <419AC4196F97D11187C600805FF590A6010553FC@xch-knt-17.ds.boeing.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ Actually, the more I look at this, the more it looks like the original user created a PCL file via the DesignJet 755CM's PCL driver (!) and tried distilling that output sent to disk. Original advice still stands with regards to using the AdobePS driver with a printer/driver instance specifically setup and configured with Distiller's PPD file. - Dov At 6/8/99 03:09 PM , Aandi Inston wrote: >> I have a document in Oracle Designer 2000 that I want to make >> into a pdf. I tell the application to print to file and >> select the default printer HP DesignJet 755CM. When I pick >> up this prn with Acrobat Distiller 3.0, I get the following output: >> >> %%[ Error: undefined; OffendingCommand: >> *b0W*b0W*b6W ]%% >> %%[ Flushing: rest of job (to end-of-file) will be ignored ]%% >> %%[ Warning: PostScript error. No PDF file produced. ] %% >> >> How can I get this output into an acrobat file? > >Distiller only reads POSTSCRIPT files, not any old PRN file. >That is not a PostScript file, so far as I can see. > >Aandi __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- See form at: http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> _____________________________________________________ 8-Jun-1999 22:35:43-GMT,2542;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA05832 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 16:35:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA29152; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 17:32:47 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 8 Jun 1999 17:28:53 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA28738; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 17:28:52 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990608183140.00879540@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 18:31:40 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF into PowerPoint In-Reply-To: <199906081525.IAA01966@wren.prod.itd.earthlink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ >I wonder how long before Microsoft wakes up and starts working on >incorporating PDF-import compatibility into its software instead of ignoring >or fighting it at every turn. I am starting to miss Persuasion again >(more evidence that competition IS important). > First, MS will have to give a rat's rump or better about EPS import in particular and PS printing in general. I'm not holding my breath while we wait. I understand that the basics of PDF import can be licensed directly from Adobe. Not as flexible as Exchange's PDF export feature, but it gets the job done. Only it gets it done as an EPS, and if the importing app can't deal with EPS correctly in the first place ... ... there's a good chance it came from MS. Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- See form at: http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> _____________________________________________________ 8-Jun-1999 22:45:08-GMT,2025;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA06142 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 16:45:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA30025; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 17:42:22 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 8 Jun 1999 17:39:47 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA29765; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 17:39:45 -0500 Message-ID: <375D9A6E.242A2C14@adobe.com> Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 15:34:23 -0700 From: Phil Ydens Organization: Adobe Systems X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Difficulty distilling a pdf from prn References: <419AC4196F97D11187C600805FF590A6010553FC@xch-knt-17.ds.boeing.com> <4.1.19990608152408.009e98a0@mail-303> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ > %%[ Error: undefined; OffendingCommand: *b0W*b0W*b6W ]%% > %%[ Flushing: rest of job (to end-of-file) will be ignored ]%% > %%[ Warning: PostScript error. No PDF file produced. ] %% > Esc *b#W is a PCL command to transfer raster data. I would guess you are printing to PCL printer. Phil Ydens Adobe Systems __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- See form at: http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> _____________________________________________________ 8-Jun-1999 22:46:49-GMT,1940;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA06155 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 16:46:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA30078; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 17:43:45 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 8 Jun 1999 17:41:20 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA29888; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 17:41:18 -0500 From: jmaechtlen@amada.com (Jay Maechtlen) To: "'PDF List'" Subject: [PDF] bookmark fonts/display Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 15:50:18 -0700 Message-ID: <000301beb201$485fc560$e640dccf@jmaechtlen.amada.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ > We notice (on my machine, and another running Reader4) > that the bookmarks (of PDFs created under 4.0?) > are strangely spaced- gaps in words, etc. > How can this be? I tried with / without "View > Use Local Fonts" ...no change. Any more ideas? Thanks! Jay __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- See form at: http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> _____________________________________________________ 8-Jun-1999 23:17:49-GMT,3012;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA07019 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 17:17:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA32318; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 18:13:20 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 8 Jun 1999 18:11:42 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA32143; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 18:11:41 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Leslie, Cynthia" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Notify when Distiller finishes a job? Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 09:32:43 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2559.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ If you are a programmer or if you have access to a programmer, write a little program that monitors the folder where Distiller put the PDF files that it creates. Every time a new file shows up in the folder, your little program should send the e-mail message. -----Original Message----- From: dwwatts@us.ibm.com [mailto:dwwatts@us.ibm.com] Sent: Monday, June 07, 1999 4:18 PM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Notify when Distiller finishes a job? The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _____________________________________________________ Hi, I use the watched folders function in Acrobat Distiller 3.02. Distiller is actually running on an NT4+SP4 server (more CPU power than my workstation) and I'd like to set up some sort of notification function whenever it finishes a job. For example, I'd like to get it to send me mail when the distiller finishes building the PDF. I have a mailing application that works from a command line, but I need some way for Distiller to kick off the mailer at the correct time. Any ideas? David. David Watts, Advisory ITSO Specialist for Netfinity Servers IBM Corporation, 678/HZ8A, 1001 Winstead Drive, Cary NC 27513 __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- Brief form at http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> __________________________________________________ __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- See form at: http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> _____________________________________________________ 9-Jun-1999 3:13:30-GMT,2300;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA12783 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 21:13:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA15488; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 22:06:31 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 8 Jun 1999 22:04:19 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA15356; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 22:04:18 -0500 Message-ID: From: Avhad Ankush-FSGA1923 To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Page size seems to be reduced when distilled. Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 11:03:58 +0800 Importance: high X-Priority: 1 Sensitivity: Company-Confidential MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ Hi all, I am Ankush Avhad, tech writer at Motorola Singapore. I have created a custom size page (14.2cms x 10.4 cms) in Framemaker 5.5 on PC/WinNT. When printed with crop-marks, from Frame, I get crop marks sized exactly to the custom page size (ideal). However, when I wish to pdf the same. I get crop-marks size (custom page size) to reduced dimension. Meaning, when I print it from PDF, I find width = 13.7cms instead of 14.2 cms. Same with height. >From Frame, I have printed the page to PS file to 100% on A4 paper with crop marks ON. I distilled the PS using Adobe Distiller 3.0 and got the PDF file. Wish to get light on the situation. Thanks. regs./Ankush __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- See form at: http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> _____________________________________________________ 9-Jun-1999 5:33:32-GMT,2100;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA16058 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 23:33:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA23628; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 00:26:40 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 9 Jun 1999 00:25:01 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA23483; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 00:25:00 -0500 From: "Steffen Sauter" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 07:24:45 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: [PDF] Distiller 4.0 - no downsampling of monochrome bitmaps X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.11) Message-Id: Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ I distilled a PS-File with bitmaps ( 1290 dpi) with Acrobat Distiller 4.0 German with following options: - downsampling true - bicubic - resolution 300 dpi - compression CCITT Group 4 In the PDF file all bitmaps have the original resolution (checked with Quite A Box of Tricks demo). The PDF is 714KB big. With Distiller 3.0 the file is about 300KB. I tried a resolution of 72 dpi and /MonoImageDownsampleThreshold 1.00 without success. Grayscale Images in other PDFs are downsampled according to the distiller settings. Regards Steffen Sauter __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- See form at: http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> _____________________________________________________ 9-Jun-1999 7:34:11-GMT,3219;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA19059 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 01:34:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA29838; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 02:27:17 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 9 Jun 1999 02:17:32 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA29335; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 02:17:30 -0500 Message-Id: <199906090717.JAA22444@wanadoo.fr> Subject: [PDF] Blank file Date: Mer, 9 Jun 99 09:18:21 +0200 x-sender: ateliers.boucaou@pop.wanadoo.fr x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: "d'Ornano" To: "pdfzone list" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id CAA29330 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ >Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 09:05:51 -0400 >From: Karen_L_Mibus@keybank.com >Subject: Re: [PDF] blank page on browser > > >S. d'ORNANO: >Can you tell us in which browsers your blank pages appear? Do they appear in >Netscape, IE 4 and 5? Does this occur with all PDFs? Are those folks >viewing >your files all using Acrobat Reader 4.0? What are the PDF file sizes? > >- --Karen and >Ah, we've had this one many times before. > >Here's a link to a doc from Adobe that may help. > >http://www.adobe.com/supportservice/custsupport/SOLUTIONS/3d76.htm > >P.S. You may want to check the date on your machine...this thread came >across as having been sent in March, I think/hope it's now June. > >Rich > >- ---------------------------------------------------------------- >Rich Sprague PDF & Digital Printing Solutions I followed the adobe technical instruction ; it seems that the file is damaged during the uploading or on the server. The file is blank even when saved on the disk and opened with acrobat exchange. I checked by opening the original file and the downloaded file with a text editor and there are some changes in the downloaded file. To uploaded I am using Claris HomePage 3 (with a mac G3 and exchange 3.01). What is odd is that I did not have that problem before. Has anybody this problem of damaged file during uploading and can you recommend a safe software for that task. Thanks S. d'ORNANO Les Ateliers du Boucaou. La Courgeyre. 40 110 Onesse. tél/fax : 05 58 42 64 66 E mail : ateliers.boucaou@wanadoo.fr http://pro.wanadoo.fr/ateliers.boucaou/ __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- See form at: http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> _____________________________________________________ 9-Jun-1999 12:09:26-GMT,2594;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA25452 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 06:09:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA11665; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 07:02:46 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 9 Jun 1999 07:01:00 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA11512; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 07:00:59 -0500 Message-Id: <199906091200.FAA77409@mail.inficad.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Wed, 09 Jun 1999 05:00:57 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Acrobat 4.0 problems...summary request From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ > However, there are some points to be aware of. They say that on Windoze, it > is important to properly and completely uninstall all Acrobat 3 components > before upgrading. Also, they say that it is important to use the most > current Adobe PostScript printer driver. And, but that's nothing new, have > no mess with the fonts. > > Max Wyss > PRODOK Engineering > Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing > CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Max, in that light it's probably important to note that Adobe has released a new print driver since burning the Acrobat 4x CD for Windoze 95 and 98...version 4.3...available as a free download at http://www.adobe.com Rich ---------------------------------------------------------------- Rich Sprague PDF & Digital Printing Solutions (480) 860-0050 richsprague@inficad.com Check out my new website: http://www.inficad.com/~richsprague ---------------------------------------------------------------- __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- See form at: http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> _____________________________________________________ 9-Jun-1999 12:46:28-GMT,2868;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA26467 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 06:46:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA14371; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 07:41:47 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 9 Jun 1999 07:40:20 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA14256; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 07:40:19 -0500 Message-Id: <199906091240.FAA81890@mail.inficad.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Wed, 09 Jun 1999 05:40:13 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Page size seems to be reduced when distilled. From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 1 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ > When printed with crop-marks, from Frame, I get crop marks sized exactly to > the custom page size (ideal). > However, when I wish to pdf the same. I get crop-marks size (custom page > size) to reduced dimension. > Meaning, when I print it from PDF, I find width = 13.7cms instead of 14.2 > cms. Same with height. > > From Frame, I have printed the page to PS file to 100% on A4 paper with crop > marks ON. > I distilled the PS using Adobe Distiller 3.0 and got the PDF file. > > Wish to get light on the situation. Thanks. > > regs./Ankush When you open your file in Acrobat, what size is your page? This is indicated at the bottom of the Acrobat window. If it is correct, then check your print dialog box and make sure that the "Fit to Page" box is unchecked. If the size is wrong, you need to go back to your original application and set a custom page size for output which is 1" larger (vertically and horizontally) to allow for the crops. Rich ---------------------------------------------------------------- Rich Sprague PDF & Digital Printing Solutions (480) 860-0050 richsprague@inficad.com Check out my new website: http://www.inficad.com/~richsprague ---------------------------------------------------------------- __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- See form at: http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> _____________________________________________________ 9-Jun-1999 12:48:54-GMT,2766;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA26535 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 06:48:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA14738; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 07:46:18 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 9 Jun 1999 07:45:09 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA14634; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 07:45:05 -0500 Message-Id: <199906091245.FAA82512@mail.inficad.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Wed, 09 Jun 1999 05:45:01 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Difficulty distilling a pdf from prn From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ > I have a document in Oracle Designer 2000 that I want to make into a pdf. > I tell the application to print to file and select the default printer HP > DesignJet 755CM. When I pick up this prn with Acrobat Distiller 3.0, I get > the following output: > > %%[ Error: undefined; OffendingCommand: *b0W*b0W*b6W ]%% > %%[ Flushing: rest of job (to end-of-file) will be ignored ]%% > %%[ Warning: PostScript error. No PDF file produced. ] %% > > How can I get this output into an acrobat file? > > Thanks > > Henry Meydring With Acrobat 4x, the installer places a Distiller driver as a printer which you can then choose when you go to print. No need to print a PostScript file...that's just another step. Careful, the installer also includes the dreaded PDFWriter which some people try to use for more than it was intended...simple text docs. Rich ---------------------------------------------------------------- Rich Sprague PDF & Digital Printing Solutions (480) 860-0050 richsprague@inficad.com Check out my new website: http://www.inficad.com/~richsprague ---------------------------------------------------------------- __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- See form at: http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> _____________________________________________________ 9-Jun-1999 13:04:54-GMT,3187;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA26951 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 07:04:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA16259; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 08:01:55 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 9 Jun 1999 08:00:39 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA16147; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 08:00:38 -0500 Message-Id: <199906091300.GAA84544@mail.inficad.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Wed, 09 Jun 1999 06:00:35 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF into PowerPoint From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id IAA16143 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ >>You have three choices for preview when exporting an eps from Exchange 3x or >>Acrobat 4x on the Mac: >> >>1€ No preview. >> >>2€ Pict preview. >> >>3€ Tiff preview. >> > > The PICT preview wouldn't work x-platform, of course, but the TIFF preview > doesn't work either? Have you a small example you could email me, if > that's the case? I'd be curious to have a peek at it. steve@rdpslides.com > > > Steve Rindsberg > President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau > http://www.rdpslides.com I'll be...darned. Yesterday, the eps file exported from Acrobat 4x (Mac) with tiff preview wouldn't insert in Powerpoint on the PC. I got a stupid text message rather than the graphic. I tried it again this morning and it works just fine. However, I got the same lousy quality that I did with the PDF that I exported as an eps and converted to an Illustrator eps. Best (actually perfect) quality still was by exporting on the PC from Acrobat 4x. This issue deals with how to get PDF files to Powerpoint. Solution: export from Exchange 3x (plug-in available at http://www.adobe.com, if you don't have it) or Acrobat 4x. You can't import a PDF into Powerpoint directly. All you get is a logo, but no PDF. Rich ---------------------------------------------------------------- Rich Sprague PDF & Digital Printing Solutions (480) 860-0050 richsprague@inficad.com Check out my new website: http://www.inficad.com/~richsprague ---------------------------------------------------------------- __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- See form at: http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> _____________________________________________________ 9-Jun-1999 13:24:31-GMT,3642;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA27539 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 07:24:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA17873; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 08:19:06 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 9 Jun 1999 08:17:25 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA17742; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 08:17:23 -0500 Message-Id: <199906091313.IAA27161@fw1jdtv.jdpub.com> Date: 09 Jun 99 08:21:45 -0500 From: Jeff Rochon Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF into PowerPoint To: pdf X-Mailer: QuickMail Pro 1.5.3 (Mac) X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id IAA17738 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ Reply to: Re: [PDF] PDF into PowerPoint this may be of absolutely no help, but to get information from a pdf into a program like powerpoint i always export the pdf from exchange as an eps with all fonts embedded and then "rasterize" it in photoshop [version 4.0 or higher] with [rgb] color. i then save it as a jpeg for import into powerpoint. works perfectly everytime! the quality will depend on the dpi you choose when rasterizing. if you want it to print well on a laser printer i would shoot for about 150dpi - 200dpi. if it is for screen only then you can use 72 dpi. hope this helps. jeff rochon --------------- Rich Sprague wrote: > >The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM >_________________________________________________________ > >>>You have three choices for preview when exporting an eps from Exchange 3x or >>>Acrobat 4x on the Mac: >>> >>>1€ No preview. >>> >>>2€ Pict preview. >>> >>>3€ Tiff preview. >>> >> >> The PICT preview wouldn't work x-platform, of course, but the TIFF preview >> doesn't work either? Have you a small example you could email me, if >> that's the case? I'd be curious to have a peek at it. steve@rdpslides.com >> >> >> Steve Rindsberg >> President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau >> http://www.rdpslides.com > >I'll be...darned. Yesterday, the eps file exported from Acrobat 4x (Mac) >with tiff preview wouldn't insert in Powerpoint on the PC. I got a stupid >text message rather than the graphic. I tried it again this morning and it >works just fine. > >However, I got the same lousy quality that I did with the PDF that I >exported as an eps and converted to an Illustrator eps. Best (actually >perfect) quality still was by exporting on the PC from Acrobat 4x. > >This issue deals with how to get PDF files to Powerpoint. Solution: export >from Exchange 3x (plug-in available at http://www.adobe.com, if you don't >have it) or Acrobat 4x. You can't import a PDF into Powerpoint directly. All >you get is a logo, but no PDF. > >Rich __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- See form at: http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> _____________________________________________________ 9-Jun-1999 13:54:54-GMT,2538;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA28336 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 07:54:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA19621; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 08:40:48 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 9 Jun 1999 08:39:07 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA19478; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 08:39:04 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Earl, George" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] blank page on browser Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 08:42:44 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ And what about the situation where everything was fine and all of a sudden the browser (MSIE 4.01) will not even bring in the Acrobat Reader (3.02, company standard) as a plugin anymore? I have uninstalled and reinstalled the Reader and it makes no difference. I have been to Adobe and have gone through their fixes and nothing works. I did not apply the ActiveX update because I am using Reader 3.02 (company standard) and I believe the ocx update is included there. Besides, it was all working fine just a few days ago. George george.earl@ssa.gov >None of the points on the Adobe page addresses the situation where a page >used to display but one day does not. Or many pages can display but a >particular one of no significant size does not display. I remember a long >time ago reading something about clearing your cache when you encounter a >blank page so that you get a new copy of the file. > >*^*^* >Wendy Cutler, Project Co-ordinator, Application Devl & Support >ITB, Ministry of Human Resources *(604) 660-1591 __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- See form at: http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> _____________________________________________________ 9-Jun-1999 13:56:13-GMT,2843;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA28368 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 07:56:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA20484; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 08:50:52 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 9 Jun 1999 08:49:38 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA20373; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 08:49:37 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Shaub, Jeff" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: Re: [PDF] Advice Needed Creating PDFs from FileMaker Pro database Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 08:48:55 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ >Date: Tue, 08 Jun 99 08:07:34 -0500 >From: scottabel@cybertek.com >Subject: [PDF] Advice Needed Creating PDFs from FileMaker Pro database > >Has anyone had any experience creating PDFs from FileMaker Pro. I have just >completed a FileMaker layout and successfully converted it to PDF. It looks >great, but I'm interested in hearing from anyone who uses this approach to avoid >pitfalls and seek some advice on FileMaker-specific layout concerns. > >Thanks in advance. Please email me directly. > >SCOTT ABEL I print from FileMaker Pro to create a PDF using Distiller. I have created a Postscript printer that prints to file. I then create a PDF using Distiller. I have experienced great results. I have noticed that defining a Full Justified text field on a layout, the preview will show Full Justification, while printing to paper will not be Fully Justified, whereas printing to a Postscript file using the same printer used for printing to paper, and then Distilling will produce a Fully Justified document. Go Figure. I have assumed this to be a FileMaker Pro problem. While I have done this process on a Mac successfully in the past, I am currently using FileMaker Pro 3.0v5, and Distiller 3.02 on a Windows NT 4.0 SP3 machine. Thanks, Jeff Shaub (316) 523-2983 __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- See form at: http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> _____________________________________________________ 9-Jun-1999 14:19:06-GMT,2907;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA29055 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 08:19:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA22804; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 09:15:20 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 9 Jun 1999 09:14:00 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA22635; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 09:13:58 -0500 Message-Id: <199906091413.HAA97627@mail.inficad.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Wed, 09 Jun 1999 07:13:56 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] blank page on browser From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ > And what about the situation where everything was fine and all of a sudden > the browser (MSIE 4.01) will not even bring in the Acrobat Reader (3.02, > company standard) as a plugin anymore? > > I have uninstalled and reinstalled the Reader and it makes no difference. I > have been to Adobe and have gone through their fixes and nothing works. I > did not apply the ActiveX update because I am using Reader 3.02 (company > standard) and I believe the ocx update is included there. Besides, it was > all working fine just a few days ago. > > George > george.earl@ssa.gov Make sure that the PDF Viewer plug-in is in the plug-in folder of any browser you use. Check the preferences to make sure the Viewer is set as a helper file. If that doesn't work, then try upgrading to IE 4.5x, and reinstall Reader. It may be that you are limited in what you do by company "policy" or desire to stay on earlier versions because of things like "search" capabilities in Acrobat. This is what I would recommend, however. Rich ---------------------------------------------------------------- Rich Sprague PDF & Digital Printing Solutions (480) 860-0050 richsprague@inficad.com Check out my new website: http://www.inficad.com/~richsprague ---------------------------------------------------------------- __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- See form at: http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> _____________________________________________________ 9-Jun-1999 14:45:51-GMT,3746;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA29805 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 08:45:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA25594; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 09:41:12 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 9 Jun 1999 09:39:19 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA25407; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 09:39:17 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 10:36:13 -0400 Message-ID: <0005A381.C21292@westat.com> From: RAMGOLK1@westat.com (RAMGOLK1) Subject: [PDF] Named destinations in Acrobat 4 don't work To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ I've recently installed Acrobat 4 (no previous installations) under Windows 95. Browsed PDFzone's archives, searched adobe's help and support services, etc. , for clues as to why PDF opens on page(1) instead of link to specific page in html, Used Word 97 to create a PostScript file from a word file (used Acrobat's PS driver, and a couple of Apple drivers alternatively - when things didn't work). Opened '.prn' output file in wordpad and added PDFmarks, using step by step instructions at - http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/tips/tip0005.html Excerpt from PS file (after save as text file in Wordpad): %%EndSetup [ /Dest /GOpg2 /Page 2 /DEST pdfmark [ /Dest /GOpg3 /Page 3 /DEST pdfmark %%Page: 1 1 %%BeginPageSetup Distilled .prn file with Distiller to PDF. Checked named destinations in PDF. Able to navigate to named pages in Acrobat. Coded links to PDFmarks in html document using FrontPage 98.

Testing PDFmark to page2
Testing PDFmark to page3

Links open PDF in browser (Netscape 4.5), but on page 1. Before installing Acrobat 4, plug-in and references to acrobat reader 3 were defined in Netscape's preferences/applications (they reside on a network server). I've noticed that the Acrobat installation added a new type and replaced an old type. New: Acrobat Catalog Index (Ext PDX) C:\PROGRAM FILES\ADOBE\ACROBAT 4.0\CATALOG\ACROCAT.EXE %1 New: Acrobat File (Ext FDF application/vnd.fdf) C:\Program Files\Adobe\Acrobat 4.0\Acrobat\Acrobat.exe Old/New ??? (Ext PDF, application/pdf) Plugin I've tried redefining the old network reference for 'Acrobat Forms Document' and setting it as the default, f:\weswin2\acrobat3\acrord32.exe "%1" to try the old reader instead, but I suspect that stuff happened behind the scenes that I'm unaware of - the registry perhaps (guessing)? Our Netscape expert will be back from vacation in a couple of days...I'm impatient. We're without a PDF expert, but I know there's one out there - Help! Thanks, Kam __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- See form at: http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> _____________________________________________________ 9-Jun-1999 14:54:19-GMT,3054;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA00105 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 08:54:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA26395; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 09:51:09 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 9 Jun 1999 09:49:48 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA26262; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 09:49:46 -0500 Message-Id: From: "Callaway, Rebecca" To: "'Post to PDF listserve'" Subject: [PDF] FW: Looking for some multimedia PDF web sites... Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 07:47:09 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.996.62 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ One More time, if anyone has a chance to respond.... rebecca >-----Original Message----- >From: Callaway, Rebecca >Sent: Monday, June 07, 1999 2:59 PM >To: 'Post to PDF listserve' >Subject: Looking for some multimedia PDF web sites... > >Hi All - > >We have an Intranet Document Management tool that, for the most part, web >publishes documents in its vault to PDF for web display (Find/View/Print >consumption). We have a potential internal customer who will want to add >Video and Sound to her files for web display. > >Though I know that Acrobat can do this, I have not done it personally. > >My question has a few parts: > >> I would like some references to existing web sites that use PDF in this >>way so I can see it for myself. Our application will be Intranet, so >>traffic issues probably won't be as bad as real WWW bandwidth concerns. > >> I would like to know what plug-ins, if any, are needed to view the >>full-functionality of multimedia PDF's in the browser (using the reader >>plug-in) > >> What standards for Sound and Video does PDF accept? Real Audio? Net Show? >> A variety of others? > >> The original documents are in Excel. To get the sound into PDF, will >>post-processing be necessary? > >> If the job warranted this, would it be smarter to put the documents into >>FrameMaker and embed all the processing needed to produce a web-ready PDF >>(with all bells and whistles, no post-processing...) > >thx for any advice.. > >Rebecca Callaway >AlliedSignal __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- See form at: http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> _____________________________________________________ 9-Jun-1999 14:59:22-GMT,2853;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA00257 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 08:59:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA26937; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 09:54:57 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 9 Jun 1999 09:53:44 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA26631; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 09:53:43 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990609105634.0089f100@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 09 Jun 1999 10:56:34 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF into PowerPoint In-Reply-To: <199906091300.GAA84544@mail.inficad.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ >I'll be...darned. Yesterday, the eps file exported from Acrobat 4x (Mac) >with tiff preview wouldn't insert in Powerpoint on the PC. I got a stupid >text message rather than the graphic. I tried it again this morning and it >works just fine. > Well ... at least now it makes more sense to me. >However, I got the same lousy quality that I did with the PDF that I >exported as an eps and converted to an Illustrator eps. Best (actually >perfect) quality still was by exporting on the PC from Acrobat 4x. > Lousy as in low rez or maybe just a 1-bit preview? >This issue deals with how to get PDF files to Powerpoint. Solution: export >from Exchange 3x (plug-in available at http://www.adobe.com, if you don't >have it) or Acrobat 4x. You can't import a PDF into Powerpoint directly. All >you get is a logo, but no PDF. > Sounds like a fair summary. Besides, if you're working on a PC, it wouldn't make sense to move the PDF to a Mac and go through all these gyrations just to get it back out to an EPS that you'll move *back* to the PC and .... Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- See form at: http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> _____________________________________________________ 9-Jun-1999 15:10:13-GMT,1926;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA00573 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 09:10:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA28779; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 10:06:51 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 9 Jun 1999 10:02:36 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA28158; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 10:02:34 -0500 Content-return: allowed Date: Wed, 09 Jun 1999 11:02:05 -0400 From: "Lavelle, James (FUSA)" Subject: [PDF] Hypertext "hot spot" is offset To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ I have encountered a problem with my hypertext links to other documents in a Word 97 table rendered by Acrobat 4 into a PDF. I am running Windows NT. The "hot spot" for the link is offset left of center on the hypertext link. It doesn't make any difference whether the text is left or center justified. Has anyone else experienced this and is there a fix? __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- See form at: http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> _____________________________________________________ 9-Jun-1999 15:12:07-GMT,2246;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA00640 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 09:12:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA29085; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 10:08:50 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 9 Jun 1999 10:04:52 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA28468; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 10:04:50 -0500 Message-Id: <199906091504.IAA08136@mail.inficad.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Wed, 09 Jun 1999 08:04:45 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF into PowerPoint From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ >>This issue deals with how to get PDF files to Powerpoint. Solution: export >>from Exchange 3x (plug-in available at http://www.adobe.com, if you don't >>have it) or Acrobat 4x. You can't import a PDF into Powerpoint directly. All >>you get is a logo, but no PDF. >>However, I got the same lousy quality that I did with the PDF that I >>exported as an eps and converted to an Illustrator eps. Best (actually >>perfect) quality still was by exporting on the PC from Acrobat 4x. >> > > Lousy as in low rez or maybe just a 1-bit preview? Moire pattern on screen and in print (hard copy). > > Steve Rindsberg > President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau > http://www.rdpslides.com __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- See form at: http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> _____________________________________________________ 9-Jun-1999 15:58:21-GMT,3736;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA02030 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 09:58:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA01184; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 10:53:47 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 9 Jun 1999 10:50:10 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA00760; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 10:50:09 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: sjveloff@mailbag.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <0005A381.C21292@westat.com> References: <0005A381.C21292@westat.com> Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 10:50:43 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Veloff Subject: Re: [PDF] Named destinations in Acrobat 4 don't work Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ > I've recently installed Acrobat 4 (no previous installations) >under Windows 95. Browsed PDFzone's archives, searched adobe's help >and support services, etc. , for clues as to why > > PDF opens on page(1) instead of link to specific page in html, > >Used Word 97 to create a PostScript file from a word file (used Acrobat's PS >driver, and a couple of Apple drivers alternatively - when things >didn't work). Opened '.prn' output file in wordpad and added >PDFmarks, using step by step instructions at - I tried creating PDF files with named desinations using Distiller 4 with settings for Acrobat 3 compatible and Acrobat 4 compatible with optimization on and off and all worked just fine for me. I even used WordPad to edit the PS document to change the named destinations and it still worked fine for me. I normally work on a Mac so I'm wondering what the '.prn' file you speak of is? You should be editing the '.ps' file not some '.prn' file. > http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/tips/tip0005.html > > Excerpt from PS file (after save as text file in Wordpad): > >%%EndSetup >[ /Dest /GOpg2 /Page 2 /DEST pdfmark >[ /Dest /GOpg3 /Page 3 /DEST pdfmark >%%Page: 1 1 >%%BeginPageSetup > > Distilled .prn file with Distiller to PDF. Checked named destinations in >PDF. Able to navigate to named pages in Acrobat. Coded links to >PDFmarks in html document using FrontPage 98. > >

>Testing PDFmark to page2 >
>Testing PDFmark to page3

> > Links open PDF in browser (Netscape 4.5), but on page 1. The link won't work as far as I know as it does not look like any proper HTML code that I'm familiar with. The link should work fine. Are the PDF files opening inside the browser (by using PDFViewer plug-in) or is the file downloading and opening in Acrobat? I don't see from what you have mentioned why it's not working. ----------------------------- Steve Veloff sjveloff@pdfzone.com http://www.pdfzone.com/ PDFzone.COM - Web Development __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- See form at: http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> _____________________________________________________ 9-Jun-1999 16:12:25-GMT,2489;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA02479 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 10:12:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA03029; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 11:09:07 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 9 Jun 1999 11:06:28 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA02686; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 11:06:24 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Named destinations in Acrobat 4 don't work Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 17:06:04 +0100 Message-ID: <001401beb291$f9f5f340$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ > The link won't work as far > as I know as it does not look like any proper HTML code that I'm > familiar with. The link should work fine. > Are the PDF files opening inside the browser (by using > PDFViewer plug-in) or is the file downloading and opening in Acrobat? Acrobat 4.0 adds some new notations for the part of the URL following the '#' as described in the Acrobat 4.0 guide. Rather to my surprise, they include a "page number" reference that works. However, these will only work if 4.0 is installed. The old form, where the '#' is followed by only a named destination may work in either case (3.0 or 4.0). I hope. Surely Adobe won't have made an incompatible change...? Aandi __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- See form at: http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> _____________________________________________________ 9-Jun-1999 16:18:19-GMT,1966;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA02691 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 10:18:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA03970; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 11:15:26 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 9 Jun 1999 11:12:54 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA03584; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 11:12:52 -0500 Message-ID: <507A405B779ED211B0FA00105A287633065757@COMMS_SERVER> From: MartinB To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Pre-populating interactive PDF's Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 17:09:57 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ Hi, I posted this question a while back, but didn't receive any replies! I am still having difficulties, so thought I'd ask again. Basically I am having problems pre-populating an interactive PDF form with data from a database via an Active Server Page. I would really love to hear from anyone who has attempted anything similar, or just to hear some tips about books or Web pages that might help. I can't find anything!! Thanks in advance, Martin __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- See form at: http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> _____________________________________________________ 9-Jun-1999 16:23:29-GMT,2123;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA02874 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 10:23:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA04679; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 11:20:43 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 9 Jun 1999 11:18:10 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA04341; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 11:18:05 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] blank page on browser Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 17:17:49 +0100 Message-ID: <001501beb293$9e528f60$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ > And what about the situation where everything was fine and > all of a sudden > the browser (MSIE 4.01) will not even bring in the Acrobat > Reader (3.02, > company standard) as a plugin anymore? If nothing has changed on the PC, and nothing has changed on the server, look elsewhere. Especially, consider whether a proxy server or firewall has had its configuration changed. Aandi __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- See form at: http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> _____________________________________________________ 9-Jun-1999 16:29:45-GMT,2002;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA03074 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 10:29:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA05324; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 11:25:36 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 9 Jun 1999 11:23:01 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA04971; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 11:22:59 -0500 Message-ID: <50AFCE9910E9D211982E00608CF26D1E0AB778@mail.roundtable.com.au> From: Karl De Abrew To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Pre-populating interactive PDF's Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 02:24:11 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ Hello Martin, > I would really love to hear from > anyone who has attempted anything similar, or just to hear some tips > about books or Web pages that might help. I can't find anything!! Try our "Simple guide to using the FDF ActiveX Toolkit" at - http://www.codecuts.com/mainpage.asp?webpageid=349 or our forms page at - http://www.codecuts.com/mainpage.asp?WebPageID=338 It should help a little. regards, Karl De Abrew karl@PlanetPDF.com http://www.PlanetPDF.com/ __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- See form at: http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> _____________________________________________________ 9-Jun-1999 16:38:22-GMT,3238;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA03305 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 10:38:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA06796; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 11:35:39 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 9 Jun 1999 11:32:59 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA06378; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 11:32:57 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Earl, George" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] blank page on browser Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 12:34:26 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ I have several other workstations around me that are about as identical to mine as you can say different workstations can be and they have no problem bringing up the Acrobat Reader inside MSIE and displaying the PDF files I am trying to get to (just like I used to be able to do). I'm beginning to think maybe something freaky happened the last time I successfully used the Reader inside MSIE, like maybe there was an anomaly of some sort when I shut down MSIE that hosed the connection with the Reader. My next step is to work my way through the registry and delete all references I find to the Reader and then see what happens after that. Thanks for your response. George george.earl@ssa.gov > -----Original Message----- > From: Aandi Inston [mailto:quite@dial.pipex.com] > Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 1999 12:18 PM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: RE: [PDF] blank page on browser > > > > The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM > _________________________________________________________ > > > > And what about the situation where everything was fine and > > all of a sudden > > the browser (MSIE 4.01) will not even bring in the Acrobat > > Reader (3.02, > > company standard) as a plugin anymore? > > If nothing has changed on the PC, and nothing has changed on the > server, look elsewhere. Especially, consider whether a proxy > server or firewall has had its configuration changed. > > Aandi > > __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ > <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> > <- See form at: http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> > _____________________________________________________ > __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- See form at: http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> _____________________________________________________ 9-Jun-1999 17:18:04-GMT,3661;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA04506 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 11:17:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA12173; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 12:13:05 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 9 Jun 1999 12:09:44 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA11735; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 12:09:41 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Livingston, Thomas S" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] FW: Looking for some multimedia PDF web sites... Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 10:01:24 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ Rebecca, > >> I would like some references to existing web sites that use PDF in this > >>way so I can see it for myself. Our application will be Intranet, so > >>traffic issues probably won't be as bad as real WWW bandwidth concerns. > I've done this for CD-ROM purposes but not for Intranet or Internet purposes. I've placed audio files in WAV format into PDF presentations both as page open actions and form actions from the PC. The audio is embedded into the PDF (obviously increasing the file size). These files were quite large, 9 to 15 MB each. > >> I would like to know what plug-ins, if any, are needed to view the > >>full-functionality of multimedia PDF's in the browser (using the reader > >>plug-in) > I have been using Reader v3.02 (which includes the Forms plug-in). I also know that Reader v4.0 also works. > >> What standards for Sound and Video does PDF accept? Real Audio? Net Show? > >> A variety of others? > This comes from the Exchange (version 3x) On-line Help guide: To play movies and sounds, your computer must have the appropriate sound and video boards installed. With Windows, you need Apple Quick-Time* 2.0 or later or the Microsoft Video for Windows software. On the Macintosh, you need QuickTime 2.0 or later. You can add pointers in your PDF documents to movies in the Apple QuickTime format or the Windows AVI format. QuickTime movies can be played back in Windows or on a Macintosh. AVI movies can be played back only in Windows. On the Macintosh, you can add pointers to Quick-Time, System 7 sound files, AIFF, and Sound Mover (FSSD) files. The System 7 sound files and Sound Mover (FSSD) files are converted to QuickTime movies when pointers are added. With Windows, you can point to AIF and WAV files. > >> If the job warranted this, would it be smarter to put the documents into > >>FrameMaker and embed all the processing needed to produce a web-ready PDF > >>(with all bells and whistles, no post-processing...) > I am not aware of Framemaker being able to do this. Hope this helps. Tom Livingston FSBTI __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- See form at: http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> _____________________________________________________ 9-Jun-1999 17:38:38-GMT,2072;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA05234 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 11:38:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA14326; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 12:35:06 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 9 Jun 1999 12:32:33 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA14023; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 12:32:30 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990609133520.00867ab0@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 09 Jun 1999 13:35:20 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF into PowerPoint In-Reply-To: <199906091504.IAA08136@mail.inficad.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ >> Lousy as in low rez or maybe just a 1-bit preview? > >Moire pattern on screen and in print (hard copy). > >> See my later reply to your previous msg, and check Help/About to see what rev of PowerPoint you're running under Win. Sounds like the SR2 patch might change this. Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- See form at: http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> _____________________________________________________ 9-Jun-1999 17:41:26-GMT,2336;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA05327 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 11:41:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA14055; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 12:32:41 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 9 Jun 1999 12:29:48 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA13763; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 12:29:45 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990609133231.0089f100@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 09 Jun 1999 13:32:31 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF into PowerPoint In-Reply-To: <199906091300.GAA84544@mail.inficad.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ >However, I got the same lousy quality that I did with the PDF that I >exported as an eps and converted to an Illustrator eps. Best (actually >perfect) quality still was by exporting on the PC from Acrobat 4x. > Aha! I just stumbled across something in the MS KB while looking for something entirely unrelated. It seems that this is a known issue. EPS from Macs will look/print badly (seems that PPT/Win tosses out the baby ... the PS portion ... and prints just the bathwater.) They say this is corrected in Office Service Release 2. Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- See form at: http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> _____________________________________________________ 9-Jun-1999 17:54:23-GMT,1912;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA05792 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 11:54:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA15918; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 12:49:24 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 9 Jun 1999 12:46:30 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA15571; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 12:46:27 -0500 Message-ID: <375EA85B.7D3BE93C@adobe.com> Date: Wed, 09 Jun 1999 10:46:03 -0700 From: Roberto Perelman Organization: Adobe Systems Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com, MartinB@sfwindows.co.uk Subject: Re: [PDF] Pre-populating interactive PDF's References: <507A405B779ED211B0FA00105A287633065757@COMMS_SERVER> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ The easiest way is to send to the client an FDF, and not a PDF. The FDF would have the data for the fields, and it would also point (via its /F key) to the PDF. On opening the FDF, we would "dereference" it and get the PDF to populate with the data. __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- See form at: http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> _____________________________________________________ 9-Jun-1999 18:59:40-GMT,2355;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA07793 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 12:59:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA23429; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 13:54:41 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 9 Jun 1999 13:51:28 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA23084; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 13:51:23 -0500 From: MLMohn@aol.com Message-ID: <96b60d8f.24901142@aol.com> Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 14:49:38 EDT Subject: [PDF] Wrong orientation To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 15 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ I'm trying to use Distiller 4 with the Adobe 4.3 printer driver, Win98, to distill a Microsoft Word 97 document. My problem is that the document measures 6.7 x 8.3 inches. I need it to distill to either its current size, or as an 8-1/2 x 11. The document distills perfectly, top-align-centered on an 8-1/2 x 11 using Distiller 3.2. Using Distiller 4, it distills to the wrong orientation (8.3 x 6.7 page size). I have tried: -- searching the Adobe web site -- putting the line <> setdistillerparams into the Example.ps file -- printing to disk & distilling the file separately using different printer drivers -- changing the fonts from TrueType to Postscript -- changing the Default Page Size in the Distiller Job Options -- setting up a custom page size under Preferences for the Acrobat Distiller printer driver What did I miss??? ML Mohn mlmohn@aol.com __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- See form at: http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> _____________________________________________________ 9-Jun-1999 18:59:45-GMT,3295;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA07799 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 12:59:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA23585; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 13:56:10 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 9 Jun 1999 13:53:43 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA23303; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 13:53:39 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 14:53:28 -0400 Message-ID: <0005A610.C21292@westat.com> From: RAMGOLK1@westat.com (RAMGOLK1) Subject: Re:RE: [PDF] Named destinations in Acrobat 4 don't work To: "Aandi Inston" , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ Aandi, See p.24 for the nameddest= option at http://partners.adobe.com/supportservice/devrelations/PDFS/TN/PDF MARK.PDF Yes, The PDF file is opened inside the browser using the PDFviewer plug-in. A co-worker (is able) to navigate to named destinations on his machine with Acro 3 plug-in references on the network server (he does not have any acrobat software installed locally). Kam ____________________Reply Separator____________________ Subject: RE: [PDF] Named destinations in Acrobat 4 don't work Author: "Aandi Inston" Date: 06/09/1999 5:06 PM The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ > The link won't work as far > as I know as it does not look like any proper HTML code that I'm > familiar with. The link should work fine. > Are the PDF files opening inside the browser (by using > PDFViewer plug-in) or is the file downloading and opening in Acrobat? Acrobat 4.0 adds some new notations for the part of the URL following the '#' as described in the Acrobat 4.0 guide. Rather to my surprise, they include a "page number" reference that works. However, these will only work if 4.0 is installed. The old form, where the '#' is followed by only a named destination may work in either case (3.0 or 4.0). I hope. Surely Adobe won't have made an incompatible change...? Aandi __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- See form at: http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> _____________________________________________________ __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- See form at: http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> _____________________________________________________ 9-Jun-1999 20:04:03-GMT,4125;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA09920 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 14:04:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA29819; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 14:58:12 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 9 Jun 1999 14:54:56 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA29463; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 14:54:54 -0500 Message-Id: <199906091954.MAA74835@mail.inficad.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Wed, 09 Jun 1999 12:54:51 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Wrong orientation From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ > I'm trying to use Distiller 4 with the Adobe 4.3 printer driver, Win98, to > distill a Microsoft Word 97 document. My problem is that the document > measures 6.7 x 8.3 inches. I need it to distill to either its current size, > or as an 8-1/2 x 11. The document distills perfectly, top-align-centered on > an 8-1/2 x 11 using Distiller 3.2. Using Distiller 4, it distills to the wrong > orientation (8.3 x 6.7 page size). > > I have tried: > > -- searching the Adobe web site > -- putting the line <> setdistillerparams into the > Example.ps file > -- printing to disk & distilling the file separately using different printer > drivers > -- changing the fonts from TrueType to Postscript > -- changing the Default Page Size in the Distiller Job Options > -- setting up a custom page size under Preferences for the Acrobat Distiller > printer driver > > What did I miss??? > > ML Mohn > mlmohn@aol.com This one's really strange. I tried a test page using the PDF Writer, which I despise (I'm using the earlier print driver, too). It created a PDF file just like it was supposed to. Correct size, correct orientation, correct whatever. Then, I tried distilling the same file. I created a custom page size in Distiller. I did not get the wrong orientation, but instead of making the 6 x 8 size (I cheated not wanting to deal with the fractions), it created a normal 8 1/2 x 11 doc. If you can rotate your pages 90 degrees, a capability in Acrobat 4x, and the text appears correctly, or figure out why the orientation is wrong to begin with, then there is a simple fix. (check out page 251 in the Acrobat 4x manual). I don't know what you doc looks like, but Adobe makes reference to pages displaying in the wrong orientation. Now, on to the fix. There's a neat little trick in Document > Crop Pages. You can adjust the margins (on all sides, mathematically) with the 8 1/2 x11 doc to come up with your correct doc size. Save it, and you have a 6 x 8 portrait-oriented doc. Seems like a lot of work for something so simple, but this is one case (if you don't have eps graphics), that I would highly recommend using the marvelous PDF Writer. Rich ---------------------------------------------------------------- Rich Sprague PDF & Digital Printing Solutions (480) 860-0050 richsprague@inficad.com Check out my new website: http://www.inficad.com/~richsprague BEST PRICING FOR ACROBAT: $199.00 (Ask about quantity discounts) ---------------------------------------------------------------- __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- See form at: http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> _____________________________________________________ 9-Jun-1999 20:48:48-GMT,6575;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA11483 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 14:48:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA02389; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 15:44:14 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 9 Jun 1999 15:41:27 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA02062; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 15:41:20 -0500 Message-ID: <001701beb2b8$cf377f80$466564c8@ntplx.net> From: "Michael Abrahamson" To: "PDF List" Subject: [PDF] Distiller 4 errors Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 16:44:03 -0400 Organization: Liturgical Publications MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0014_01BEB297.480BEEE0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0014_01BEB297.480BEEE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have been testing the creation of various PDF documents from Windows = applications such as WordPerfect 6.1 and MS Word 6.0. The documents are = all very simple 3-4 page files with a handful of B/W graphics and text = in a few fonts. Very straightforward stuff. However, when I try = setting the printer in WP 6.1, the program crashes periodically. When = it doesn't crash and I am able to select the printer I am still unable = to print with the Distiller driver. I get "Application Error - Integer = divide by 0". I believe this is a WP 6.1 error and not generated by = Distiller because the document never even gets sent to the printer = driver. I have tried several documents with the same result each time. = Any ideas? Incidentally, if I set the printer to PDFWriter the document = looks horrendous. The other problem is with Word 6.0. (I know I am using outdated = programs here, but that is what some of our customers have.) When = attempting to switch to the Distiller printer I have 4 selections to = choose from, each containing a piece of the path to the PDF Output = directory. If I choose one of these Distiller printers and try to = print, as you can well imagine, Distiller is unable to see the generated = file because the path is partial to the output directory. I know I can = edit the path somehow. Who can tell me the most effective and reliable = way to do this? Am I correct in thinking it's just in the printer = properties? Do I have to edit more than one setting for this to work = correctly? I would be thrilled if all our customers would simply upgrade to the = latest and greatest programs available. Unfortunately I have to try to = compensate where they are lacking. If I can get them to generate usable = PDF files from these programs then that would make our life MUCH easier. = Thanks for your time and any help. Mike Abrahamson Liturgical Publications ------=_NextPart_000_0014_01BEB297.480BEEE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I have been testing the creation of various PDF = documents from=20 Windows applications such as WordPerfect 6.1 and MS Word 6.0.  The=20 documents are all very simple 3-4 page files with a handful of B/W = graphics and=20 text in a few fonts.  Very straightforward stuff.  However, = when I try=20 setting the printer in WP 6.1, the program crashes periodically.  = When it=20 doesn't crash and I am able to select the printer I am still unable to = print=20 with the Distiller driver.  I get "Application Error - Integer = divide by=20 0".  I believe this is a WP 6.1 error and not generated by = Distiller=20 because the document never even gets sent to the printer driver.  I = have=20 tried several documents with the same result each time.  Any = ideas? =20 Incidentally, if I set the printer to PDFWriter the document looks=20 horrendous.
 
The other problem is with Word 6.0.  (I know I = am using=20 outdated programs here, but that is what some of our customers = have.)  When=20 attempting to switch to the Distiller printer I have 4 selections to = choose=20 from, each containing a piece of the path to the PDF Output = directory.  If=20 I choose one of these Distiller printers and try to print, as you can = well=20 imagine, Distiller is unable to see the generated file because the path = is=20 partial to the output directory.  I know I can edit the path = somehow. =20 Who can tell me the most effective and reliable way to do this?  Am = I=20 correct in thinking it's just in the printer properties?  Do I have = to edit=20 more than one setting for this to work correctly?
 
I would be thrilled if all our customers would = simply upgrade=20 to the latest and greatest programs available.  Unfortunately I = have to try=20 to compensate where they are lacking.  If I can get them to = generate usable=20 PDF files from these programs then that would make our life MUCH = easier. =20 Thanks for your time and any help.
 
Mike Abrahamson
Liturgical Publications
------=_NextPart_000_0014_01BEB297.480BEEE0-- __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- See form at: http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> _____________________________________________________ 9-Jun-1999 21:05:11-GMT,1936;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA12007 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 15:05:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA04266; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 16:00:20 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 9 Jun 1999 15:56:56 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA03755; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 15:56:53 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19990609163701.0076f930@po3.bbn.com> X-Sender: smcnamar@po3.bbn.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Wed, 09 Jun 1999 16:37:01 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Shaun McNamara Subject: [PDF] PDFMaker Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ Hi, I'm having a problem installing PDFMaker on an NT box. MS Word is installed locally and it's Word 97, but still PDFMaker does not install. It looks like it's installing, but then when Word opens, there is no toolbar for PDFMaker or a selectable option in View/Toolbars. Does anbody have any suggestions. I am logging on as the administrator, so that's not the problem either. Thanks for any input, Shaun __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- See form at: http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> _____________________________________________________ 9-Jun-1999 21:20:10-GMT,8714;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA12451 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 15:20:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA05639; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 16:14:18 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 9 Jun 1999 16:11:31 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA05340; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 16:11:25 -0500 Message-Id: <199906092111.OAA94165@mail.inficad.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Wed, 09 Jun 1999 14:11:13 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Distiller 4 errors From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="MS_Mac_OE_3011782273_583162_MIME_Part" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ > THIS MESSAGE IS IN MIME FORMAT. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --MS_Mac_OE_3011782273_583162_MIME_Part Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit I have been testing the creation of various PDF documents from Windows applications such as WordPerfect 6.1 and MS Word 6.0. The documents are all very simple 3-4 page files with a handful of B/W graphics and text in a few fonts. Very straightforward stuff. However, when I try setting the printer in WP 6.1, the program crashes periodically. When it doesn't crash and I am able to select the printer I am still unable to print with the Distiller driver. I get "Application Error - Integer divide by 0". I believe this is a WP 6.1 error and not generated by Distiller because the document never even gets sent to the printer driver. I have tried several documents with the same result each time. Any ideas? Incidentally, if I set the printer to PDFWriter the document looks horrendous. The other problem is with Word 6.0. (I know I am using outdated programs here, but that is what some of our customers have.) When attempting to switch to the Distiller printer I have 4 selections to choose from, each containing a piece of the path to the PDF Output directory. If I choose one of these Distiller printers and try to print, as you can well imagine, Distiller is unable to see the generated file because the path is partial to the output directory. I know I can edit the path somehow. Who can tell me the most effective and reliable way to do this? Am I correct in thinking it's just in the printer properties? Do I have to edit more than one setting for this to work correctly? I would be thrilled if all our customers would simply upgrade to the latest and greatest programs available. Unfortunately I have to try to compensate where they are lacking. If I can get them to generate usable PDF files from these programs then that would make our life MUCH easier. Thanks for your time and any help. Mike Abrahamson Liturgical Publications You're right, with graphics in your file the PDF Writer is going to produce mucky results. If you have installed Acrobat 4x correctly, at least on Windoze 95 or 98, and you attempt to print you will see a choice under the word "Print" called "Create Adobe PDF". This is what you should be using to make your PDFs. If you choose that option, then you are given a choice of our favorite PDF Writer, or Distiller. Choose Distiller, select one of the three pre-set job options based on your final use (or create your own by launching Distiller--make sure your document is closed, otherwise your new option will not be available until you re-open your file after creating your own option in Distiller). That's it...it should work like a charm, without a lot of fuss. Rich ---------------------------------------------------------------- Rich Sprague PDF & Digital Printing Solutions (480) 860-0050 richsprague@inficad.com Check out my new website: http://www.inficad.com/~richsprague ---------------------------------------------------------------- --MS_Mac_OE_3011782273_583162_MIME_Part Content-type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Re: [PDF] Distiller 4 errors
I have been testing the creation of various PDF = documents from Windows applications such as WordPerfect 6.1 and MS Word 6.0.=  The documents are all very simple 3-4 page files with a handful of B/= W graphics and text in a few fonts.  Very straightforward stuff.  = However, when I try setting the printer in WP 6.1, the program crashes perio= dically.  When it doesn't crash and I am able to select the printer I a= m still unable to print with the Distiller driver.  I get "Applica= tion Error - Integer divide by 0".  I believe this is a WP 6.1 err= or and not generated by Distiller because the document never even gets sent = to the printer driver.  I have tried several documents with the same re= sult each time.  Any ideas?  Incidentally, if I set the printer to= PDFWriter the document looks horrendous.
 
The other problem is with Word 6.0.  (I know I am using= outdated programs here, but that is what some of our customers have.)  = ;When attempting to switch to the Distiller printer I have 4 selections to c= hoose from, each containing a piece of the path to the PDF Output directory.=  If I choose one of these Distiller printers and try to print, as you = can well imagine, Distiller is unable to see the generated file because the = path is partial to the output directory.  I know I can edit the path so= mehow.  Who can tell me the most effective and reliable way to do this?=  Am I correct in thinking it's just in the printer properties?  D= o I have to edit more than one setting for this to work correctly?
 
I would be thrilled if all our customers would simply upgrad= e to the latest and greatest programs available.  Unfortunately I have = to try to compensate where they are lacking.  If I can get them to gene= rate usable PDF files from these programs then that would make our life MUCH= easier.  Thanks for your time and any help.
 
Mike Abrahamson
Liturgical Publications

You're right, with graphics in your file the PDF Writer is goi= ng to produce mucky results.

If you have installed Acrobat 4x correctly, at least on Windoze 95 or 98, a= nd you attempt to print you will see a choice under the word "Print&quo= t; called "Create Adobe PDF". This is what you should be using to = make your PDFs. If you choose that option, then you are given a choice of ou= r favorite PDF Writer, or Distiller. Choose Distiller, select one of the thr= ee pre-set job options based on your final use (or create your own by launch= ing Distiller--make sure your document is closed, otherwise your new option = will not be available until you re-open your file after creating your own op= tion in Distiller).

That's it...it should work like a charm, without a lot of fuss.

Rich

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(480) 860-0050           =             &nbs= p;   richsprague@inficad.com
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--MS_Mac_OE_3011782273_583162_MIME_Part-- __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- See form at: http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> _____________________________________________________ 9-Jun-1999 21:20:37-GMT,2250;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA12474 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 15:20:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA06103; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 16:17:38 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 9 Jun 1999 16:14:55 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA05684; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 16:14:54 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Message-Id: Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 17:20:49 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: DaleH Subject: [PDF] Post Distiller Production Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ Once a PDF document has been produced, what are my options for adding graphic material to the pages? I've read in Acrobat Help about the PDF Touchup object tool but I can't find the Context Menu mentioned. Not sure this would help anyway. Because of many Tiff heavy catalog pages (takes too long to re-save to Postscript and then Distill, Exchange) I'd like to avoid both going back to the originating application and opening up each page in Illustrator and resaving. Example: My catalog's PDF version needs "navigation aids" in the form of spot icons and a browser-like "header". 1. Ideally I'd like to add a half inch to the top of each page for the header ("reverse crop"), 2. and then paste various icons throughout the pages - ALL THROUGH ONE APPLICATION WINDOW if possible. Dale H. (Acrobat 4 on the Mac) __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- See form at: http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> _____________________________________________________ 9-Jun-1999 21:22:15-GMT,2636;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA12552 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 15:22:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA06381; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 16:19:37 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 9 Jun 1999 16:16:54 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA05921; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 16:16:53 -0500 Message-Id: <199906092116.OAA95332@mail.inficad.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Wed, 09 Jun 1999 14:16:49 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] PDFMaker From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ > Hi, > > I'm having a problem installing PDFMaker on an NT box. MS Word is installed > locally and it's Word 97, but still PDFMaker does not install. It looks > like it's installing, but then when Word opens, there is no toolbar for > PDFMaker or a selectable option in View/Toolbars. Does anbody have any > suggestions. I am logging on as the administrator, so that's not the > problem either. > > Thanks for any input, > > Shaun I'm curious, actually. When Acrobat 4x installs PDF Maker on Windoze 95 or 98, and one subsequently goes to print, under the word "Print" is "Create Adobe PDF". This is the PDF Maker. By selecting this option, then one can use the PDF Writer or Distiller. Do you have anything similar to this function on your system? Rich ---------------------------------------------------------------- Rich Sprague PDF & Digital Printing Solutions (480) 860-0050 richsprague@inficad.com Check out my new website: http://www.inficad.com/~richsprague ---------------------------------------------------------------- __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- See form at: http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> _____________________________________________________ 9-Jun-1999 21:38:30-GMT,1881;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA13077 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 15:38:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA08096; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 16:35:07 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 9 Jun 1999 16:32:31 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA07821; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 16:32:28 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 16:44:51 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: andrea stein Subject: [PDF] "Docublobs" to pdf Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ Hi, all - Does anyone know of a third party solution which would allow us to create pdfs from Xerox rastered files (Docublobs) printed from a DocuTech? Does anyone have experience in creating pdfs from PostScript files that can be saved from such rastered files? You can email me off-line, if you like, too - astein@nrepub.com Thanks! Andrea Stein Multimedia Director N&R Digital Solutions 4820 Clark Howell Hwy. Atlanta, GA 30349 404-765-0162 __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- See form at: http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> _____________________________________________________ 9-Jun-1999 21:47:07-GMT,11848;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA13328 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 15:47:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA09140; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 16:44:09 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 9 Jun 1999 16:41:36 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA08786; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 16:41:31 -0500 Message-ID: <002f01beb2c0$e9354540$466564c8@ntplx.net> From: "Michael Abrahamson" To: References: <199906092111.OAA94165@mail.inficad.com> Subject: Re: [PDF] Distiller 4 errors Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 17:42:02 -0400 Organization: Liturgical Publications MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002C_01BEB29F.620B3B40" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_002C_01BEB29F.620B3B40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: [PDF] Distiller 4 errorsThe option you are describing is the = PDFMaker macro which is exclusively available to Office 97 applications. = Word 6 and other Windows programs do not have this option. It is = required to manually initialize a print job to the Distiller or = PDFWriter driver under the File>Print option of these programs. This is = where I have the problems. I wish Adobe had a way to automate the PDF = file creation in non-Office 97 apps, but alas we cannot expect miracles. = :) In any case, does anyone have suggestions for my afore-mentioned issues? = Thanks, Rich, for your interest. Sincerely, Mike Abrahamson ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Rich Sprague=20 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com=20 Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 1999 5:11 PM Subject: Re: [PDF] Distiller 4 errors I have been testing the creation of various PDF documents from = Windows applications such as WordPerfect 6.1 and MS Word 6.0. The = documents are all very simple 3-4 page files with a handful of B/W = graphics and text in a few fonts. Very straightforward stuff. However, = when I try setting the printer in WP 6.1, the program crashes = periodically. When it doesn't crash and I am able to select the printer = I am still unable to print with the Distiller driver. I get = "Application Error - Integer divide by 0". I believe this is a WP 6.1 = error and not generated by Distiller because the document never even = gets sent to the printer driver. I have tried several documents with = the same result each time. Any ideas? Incidentally, if I set the = printer to PDFWriter the document looks horrendous. =20 The other problem is with Word 6.0. (I know I am using outdated = programs here, but that is what some of our customers have.) When = attempting to switch to the Distiller printer I have 4 selections to = choose from, each containing a piece of the path to the PDF Output = directory. If I choose one of these Distiller printers and try to = print, as you can well imagine, Distiller is unable to see the generated = file because the path is partial to the output directory. I know I can = edit the path somehow. Who can tell me the most effective and reliable = way to do this? Am I correct in thinking it's just in the printer = properties? Do I have to edit more than one setting for this to work = correctly? =20 I would be thrilled if all our customers would simply upgrade to the = latest and greatest programs available. Unfortunately I have to try to = compensate where they are lacking. If I can get them to generate usable = PDF files from these programs then that would make our life MUCH easier. = Thanks for your time and any help. =20 Mike Abrahamson Liturgical Publications You're right, with graphics in your file the PDF Writer is going to = produce mucky results. If you have installed Acrobat 4x correctly, at least on Windoze 95 or = 98, and you attempt to print you will see a choice under the word = "Print" called "Create Adobe PDF". This is what you should be using to = make your PDFs. If you choose that option, then you are given a choice = of our favorite PDF Writer, or Distiller. Choose Distiller, select one = of the three pre-set job options based on your final use (or create your = own by launching Distiller--make sure your document is closed, otherwise = your new option will not be available until you re-open your file after = creating your own option in Distiller). That's it...it should work like a charm, without a lot of fuss. Rich ----------------------------------------------------------------=20 Rich Sprague PDF & Digital Printing Solutions (480) 860-0050 richsprague@inficad.com Check out my new website: http://www.inficad.com/~richsprague ----------------------------------------------------------------=20 ------=_NextPart_000_002C_01BEB29F.620B3B40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: [PDF] Distiller 4 errors
The option you are describing is the PDFMaker macro = which is=20 exclusively available to Office 97 applications.  Word 6 and other = Windows=20 programs do not have this option.  It is required to manually = initialize a=20 print job to the Distiller or PDFWriter driver under the File>Print = option of=20 these programs.  This is where I have the problems.  I wish = Adobe had=20 a way to automate the PDF file creation in non-Office 97 apps, but alas = we=20 cannot expect miracles.  :)
 
In any case, does anyone have suggestions for my=20 afore-mentioned issues?  Thanks, Rich, for your = interest.
 
Sincerely,
Mike Abrahamson
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From:=20
Rich=20 Sprague
To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 1999 = 5:11=20 PM
Subject: Re: [PDF] Distiller 4=20 errors

I have been testing the creation of various = PDF=20 documents from Windows applications such as WordPerfect 6.1 and MS = Word 6.0.=20  The documents are all very simple 3-4 page files with a = handful of B/W=20 graphics and text in a few fonts.  Very straightforward stuff.=20  However, when I try setting the printer in WP 6.1, the program = crashes=20 periodically.  When it doesn't crash and I am able to select = the=20 printer I am still unable to print with the Distiller driver. =  I get=20 "Application Error - Integer divide by 0".  I believe this is a = WP 6.1=20 error and not generated by Distiller because the document never even = gets=20 sent to the printer driver.  I have tried several documents = with the=20 same result each time.  Any ideas?  Incidentally, if I set = the=20 printer to PDFWriter the document looks=20 horrendous.
 
The other problem is = with Word=20 6.0.  (I know I am using outdated programs here, but that is = what some=20 of our customers have.)  When attempting to switch to the = Distiller=20 printer I have 4 selections to choose from, each containing a piece = of the=20 path to the PDF Output directory.  If I choose one of these = Distiller=20 printers and try to print, as you can well imagine, Distiller is = unable to=20 see the generated file because the path is partial to the output = directory.=20  I know I can edit the path somehow.  Who can tell me the = most=20 effective and reliable way to do this?  Am I correct in = thinking it's=20 just in the printer properties?  Do I have to edit more than = one=20 setting for this to work correctly?
 
I would=20 be thrilled if all our customers would simply upgrade to the latest = and=20 greatest programs available.  Unfortunately I have to try to = compensate=20 where they are lacking.  If I can get them to generate usable = PDF files=20 from these programs then that would make our life MUCH easier. =  Thanks=20 for your time and any help.
 
Mike=20 Abrahamson
Liturgical = Publications

You're right,=20 with graphics in your file the PDF Writer is going to produce mucky=20 results.

If you have installed Acrobat 4x correctly, at least = on=20 Windoze 95 or 98, and you attempt to print you will see a choice under = the=20 word "Print" called "Create Adobe PDF". This is what you should be = using to=20 make your PDFs. If you choose that option, then you are given a choice = of our=20 favorite PDF Writer, or Distiller. Choose Distiller, select one of the = three=20 pre-set job options based on your final use (or create your own by = launching=20 Distiller--make sure your document is closed, otherwise your new = option will=20 not be available until you re-open your file after creating your own = option in=20 Distiller).

That's it...it should work like a charm, without a = lot of=20 = fuss.

Rich

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(480) 860-0050=20 =             &= nbsp;           &n= bsp; richsprague@inficad.com
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------=_NextPart_000_002C_01BEB29F.620B3B40-- __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- See form at: http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> _____________________________________________________ 9-Jun-1999 21:51:11-GMT,3376;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA13475 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 15:51:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA09522; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 16:46:34 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 9 Jun 1999 16:43:51 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA09062; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 16:43:49 -0500 Message-Id: <199906092143.OAA01874@mail.inficad.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Wed, 09 Jun 1999 14:43:44 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Post Distiller Production From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com CC: dhoff@margnat.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ > Once a PDF document has been produced, what are my options for adding > graphic material to the pages? I've read in Acrobat Help about the PDF > Touchup object tool but I can't find the Context Menu mentioned. Not sure > this would help anyway. > > Because of many Tiff heavy catalog pages (takes too long to re-save to > Postscript and then Distill, Exchange) I'd like to avoid both going back to > the originating application and opening up each page in Illustrator and > resaving. > > Example: My catalog's PDF version needs "navigation aids" in the form of > spot icons and a browser-like "header". > > 1. Ideally I'd like to add a half inch to the top of each > page for the header ("reverse crop"), > > 2. and then paste various icons throughout the pages - > ALL THROUGH ONE APPLICATION WINDOW if possible. > > Dale H. (Acrobat 4 on the Mac) > dhoff@margnat.com The text touchup tool is dicey, at best. Acrobat 4x doesn't have any other real editing capabilities. If you want to edit PDF files, without exporting an eps file, opening the eps, resaving as a PDF, etc. (which you may be able to do in Illustrator, Freehand and Corel Draw), you should surf to http://www.enfocus.com and check out a product called PitStop. Version 1.5 has been out a while... version 4.0 (to match with Acrobat's numbering scheme) is in beta. Trial versions are available. $295.00 is the cost, and it is as close to a full PDF editing program as you can get. Rich ---------------------------------------------------------------- Rich Sprague PDF & Digital Printing Solutions (480) 860-0050 richsprague@inficad.com Check out my new website: http://www.inficad.com/~richsprague ---------------------------------------------------------------- __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- See form at: http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> _____________________________________________________ 9-Jun-1999 22:11:12-GMT,5717;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA14063 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 16:11:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA12572; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 17:07:29 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 9 Jun 1999 17:05:19 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA12216; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 17:05:08 -0500 Message-Id: <199906092205.PAA06860@mail.inficad.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Wed, 09 Jun 1999 15:05:01 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Distiller 4 errors From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="MS_Mac_OE_3011785501_777329_MIME_Part" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ > THIS MESSAGE IS IN MIME FORMAT. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --MS_Mac_OE_3011785501_777329_MIME_Part Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit The option you are describing is the PDFMaker macro which is exclusively available to Office 97 applications. Word 6 and other Windows programs do not have this option. It is required to manually initialize a print job to the Distiller or PDFWriter driver under the File>Print option of these programs. This is where I have the problems. I wish Adobe had a way to automate the PDF file creation in non-Office 97 apps, but alas we cannot expect miracles. :) In any case, does anyone have suggestions for my afore-mentioned issues? Thanks, Rich, for your interest. Sincerely, Mike Abrahamson Well, that's a fine how-do-you-do. Sorry, that I posted a bad idea. You are in a pickle. I should have known that something that works in Office 97+ might not work in earlier versions. You may be forced into upgrading, or going back downwards in Acrobat if you don't have any other options. Acrobat 4x and these earlier applications, maynot get along very well. Maybe someone else on the list can shed some light. Is this your first experience with Acrobat, or do you have version 3x? If you do, do you have the same problems? Good luck. Rich ---------------------------------------------------------------- Rich Sprague PDF & Digital Printing Solutions (480) 860-0050 richsprague@inficad.com Check out my new website: http://www.inficad.com/~richsprague BEST PRICING FOR ACROBAT: $199.00 (Ask about quantity discounts) ---------------------------------------------------------------- --MS_Mac_OE_3011785501_777329_MIME_Part Content-type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Re: [PDF] Distiller 4 errors
The option you are describing is the PDFMaker ma= cro which is exclusively available to Office 97 applications.  Word 6 a= nd other Windows programs do not have this option.  It is required to m= anually initialize a print job to the Distiller or PDFWriter driver under th= e File>Print option of these programs.  This is where I have the pro= blems.  I wish Adobe had a way to automate the PDF file creation in non= -Office 97 apps, but alas we cannot expect miracles.  :)
 
In any case, does anyone have suggestions for my afore-menti= oned issues?  Thanks, Rich, for your interest.
 
Sincerely,
Mike Abrahamson

Well, that's a fine how-do-you-do. Sorry, that I posted a bad idea.

You are in a pickle.  I should have known that something that works in= Office 97+ might not work in earlier versions. You may be forced into upgra= ding, or going back downwards in Acrobat if you don't have any other options= . Acrobat 4x and these earlier applications, maynot get along very well.
Maybe someone else on the list can shed some light.

Is this your first experience with Acrobat, or do you have version 3x? If y= ou do, do you have the same problems?

Good luck.

Rich
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Scott Miller" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ > I'm having a problem installing PDFMaker on an NT box. MS Word is installed > locally and it's Word 97, but still PDFMaker does not install. It looks > like it's installing, but then when Word opens, there is no toolbar for > PDFMaker or a selectable option in View/Toolbars. Does anbody have any > suggestions. I had a similar problem on WIN98. It turned out that where the PDFMaker macro was being installed is not where Word97 was setup to find it. First, do a Find File for PDFMAKER.DOT on your NT. If it doesn't show up then you may have an Acrobat installation error (but I would be surprised if you can't find it). If it is there, take note of its directory location. Ideally, it should be in the STARTUP directory within your OFFICE program directory. Then go to Word97 and look in TOOLS/OPTIONS... under the FILE LOCATIONS tab. If Startup File types is not linked to your STARTUP directory then you need to modify it so that it is (or wherever you have PDFMaker.DOT). -- HTH, C. Scott Miller PDF R_e_s_e_a_r_c_h__C_o_m_p_a_n_i_o_n A Designer's Guide to Adobe's Portable Document Format http://www.performancegraphics.com __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- See form at: http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> _____________________________________________________ 9-Jun-1999 22:59:53-GMT,5932;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA15515 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 16:59:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA16548; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 17:53:56 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 9 Jun 1999 17:52:47 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA16445; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 17:52:45 -0500 Message-Id: <199906092252.PAA20229@stonewall.george.com> X-Sender: pcopelan@stonewall.george.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.1 Date: Wed, 09 Jun 1999 15:50:58 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Patti Copeland Subject: Re: [PDF] "Docublobs" to pdf In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; types="text/plain,text/html"; boundary="=====================_32565626==_.ALT" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ --=====================_32565626==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Andrea, I do not think this is possible. It would be interesting, if it was. (probably be huge!) We do much of our printing to DocuTech and Digital Web. I prepare much of the print PDF for this device. I have been wrestling this issue as I feel holding the PDF to print takes up far less (storage) space on the server. But they argue that they don't have setup and readjustment time with a Docublob. One of the issues to why they keep some jobs as Docublobs is that they hold all the print perameters (job ticket info, per se) such as where to add slipsheets, etc. I would ask anyone familiar with DocuTech and Adobe Acrobat 4.0 if Acrobat 4.0 with Portable Job ticket would be our answer for initial print file preparation. Does the Portable Job ticket hold the same print perameters that a Docublob holds? or what needs to be dealt with at the DocuTech itself? If you find out anything off the list, let me know. If anyone wants to contact me off the list regarding this, please do. good luck Patti Patti Copeland Digital Imaging Technician George Lithograph, PAA George Lithograph [415] 715-2400 pcopelan@george.com At 02:44 PM 6/9/99 , you wrote: > >The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM >_________________________________________________________ > >Hi, all - > >Does anyone know of a third party solution which would allow us to create >pdfs from Xerox rastered files (Docublobs) printed from a DocuTech? > >Does anyone have experience in creating pdfs from PostScript files that can >be saved from such rastered files? > >You can email me off-line, if you like, too - astein@nrepub.com > >Thanks! >Andrea Stein >Multimedia Director >N&R Digital Solutions >4820 Clark Howell Hwy. >Atlanta, GA 30349 >404-765-0162 > --=====================_32565626==_.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Andrea, I do not think this is possible.
It would be interesting, if it was. (probably be huge!) We do much of our printing to DocuTech and Digital Web.
I prepare much of the print PDF for this device.

I have been wrestling this issue as I feel holding the PDF to print takes up far less (storage) space on the server. But they argue that they don't have setup and readjustment time with a Docublob. One of the issues to why they keep some jobs as Docublobs is that they hold all the print perameters (job ticket info, per se) such as where to add slipsheets, etc.

I would ask anyone familiar with DocuTech and Adobe Acrobat 4.0
if Acrobat 4.0 with Portable Job ticket would be our answer for initial print file preparation.
Does the Portable Job ticket hold the same print perameters that a Docublob holds?
or what needs to be dealt with at the DocuTech itself?

If you find out anything off the list, let me know.
If anyone wants to contact me off the list regarding this, please do.

good luck
Patti

Patti Copeland
Digital Imaging Technician
George Lithograph, PAA
               
George Lithograph
[415] 715-2400
pcopelan@george.com

At 02:44 PM 6/9/99 , you wrote:
>
>The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM
>_________________________________________________________
>
>Hi, all -
>
>Does anyone know of a third party solution which would allow us to create
>pdfs from Xerox rastered files (Docublobs) printed from a DocuTech?
>
>Does anyone have experience in creating pdfs from PostScript files that can
>be saved from such rastered files?
>
>You can email me off-line, if you like, too - astein@nrepub.com
>
>Thanks!
>Andrea Stein
>Multimedia Director
>N&R Digital Solutions
>4820 Clark Howell Hwy.
>Atlanta, GA  30349
>404-765-0162
>
--=====================_32565626==_.ALT-- __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- See form at: http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> _____________________________________________________ 9-Jun-1999 23:11:00-GMT,4616;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA15835 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 17:10:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA17617; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 18:07:46 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 9 Jun 1999 18:06:10 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA17447; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 18:06:08 -0500 Message-Id: <199906092306.QAA05993@wren.prod.itd.earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Wed, 09 Jun 1999 16:01:55 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Distiller 4 errors From: "C. Scott Miller" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="MS_Mac_OE_3011788915_1325467_MIME_Part" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ > THIS MESSAGE IS IN MIME FORMAT. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --MS_Mac_OE_3011788915_1325467_MIME_Part Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit >The option you are describing is the PDFMaker macro which is exclusively available to Office 97 applications. Word 6 and other Windows programs do not have this option. It is required to manually initialize a print job to the Distiller or PDFWriter driver under the File>Print option of these programs. This is where I have the problems. I wish Adobe had a way to automate the PDF file creation in non-Office 97 apps, but alas we cannot expect miracles. :) Neither of you have mentioned the drag and drop functionality of Acrobat 4. I no longer have Word 6 loaded on my WIN98 machine but I can still save files to Word 6 and WordPerfect 5.x. In a few tests, simply dragging the saved document's icon over the Acrobat 4 program icon will automatically launch Acrobat (and, in the background, Distiller) and convert the file. It also works with Excel 97 files, or those saved as Excel 3 files, etc. So experiment with drag and drop on Acrobat 4. You should set up your Distiller settings first. -- HTH, C. Scott Miller PDF R_e_s_e_a_r_c_h__C_o_m_p_a_n_i_o_n A Designer's Guide to Adobe's Portable Document Format http://www.performancegraphics.com --MS_Mac_OE_3011788915_1325467_MIME_Part Content-type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Re: [PDF] Distiller 4 errors
>The option you are describing is the PDFMake= r macro which is exclusively available to Office 97 applications.  Word= 6 and other Windows programs do not have this option.  It is required = to manually initialize a print job to the Distiller or PDFWriter driver unde= r the File>Print option of these programs.  This is where I have the= problems.  I wish Adobe had a way to automate the PDF file creation in= non-Office 97 apps, but alas we cannot expect miracles.  :)

Neither of you have mentioned the drag and drop functionality = of Acrobat 4.

I no longer have Word 6 loaded on my WIN98 machine but I can still save fil= es to Word 6 and WordPerfect 5.x. In a few tests, simply dragging the saved = document's icon over the Acrobat 4 program icon will automatically launch Ac= robat (and, in the background, Distiller) and convert the file. It also work= s with Excel 97 files, or those saved as Excel 3 files, etc.

So experiment with drag and drop on Acrobat 4. You should set up your Disti= ller settings first.

--
HTH,
C. Scott Miller

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--MS_Mac_OE_3011788915_1325467_MIME_Part-- __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- See form at: http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> _____________________________________________________ 9-Jun-1999 23:34:26-GMT,7189;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA16503 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 17:34:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA19307; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 18:30:02 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 9 Jun 1999 18:28:47 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA19206; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 18:28:44 -0500 Message-ID: <001401beb2ce$c220f720$11bdd5cc@ntplx.net> From: "Mike Abrahamson" To: References: <199906092306.QAA05993@wren.prod.itd.earthlink.net> Subject: Re: [PDF] Distiller 4 errors Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 19:20:21 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0011_01BEB2AD.1E0E69E0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0011_01BEB2AD.1E0E69E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: [PDF] Distiller 4 errorsI have not tried the drag and drop feature = yet. I find it fascinating that you mentioned WP 5.1. We have many = customers who still use this DOS program and it would be an enormous = benefit if Acrobat 4 supported drag and drop conversion of these files = since I'm not sure I could get a PDF file directly out of WordPerfect = 5.1 in DOS (through a PS file first, of course). In any case, I will = start testing the drag and drop feature to see what success I have. = Thanks for your input! Mike Abrahamson ----- Original Message -----=20 From: C. Scott Miller=20 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com=20 Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 1999 7:01 PM Subject: Re: [PDF] Distiller 4 errors >The option you are describing is the PDFMaker macro which is = exclusively available to Office 97 applications. Word 6 and other = Windows programs do not have this option. It is required to manually = initialize a print job to the Distiller or PDFWriter driver under the = File>Print option of these programs. This is where I have the problems. = I wish Adobe had a way to automate the PDF file creation in non-Office = 97 apps, but alas we cannot expect miracles. :) Neither of you have mentioned the drag and drop functionality of = Acrobat 4. I no longer have Word 6 loaded on my WIN98 machine but I can still = save files to Word 6 and WordPerfect 5.x. In a few tests, simply = dragging the saved document's icon over the Acrobat 4 program icon will = automatically launch Acrobat (and, in the background, Distiller) and = convert the file. It also works with Excel 97 files, or those saved as = Excel 3 files, etc. So experiment with drag and drop on Acrobat 4. You should set up your = Distiller settings first. --=20 HTH, C. Scott Miller PDF R_e_s_e_a_r_c_h__C_o_m_p_a_n_i_o_n A Designer's Guide to Adobe's Portable Document Format http://www.performancegraphics.com ------=_NextPart_000_0011_01BEB2AD.1E0E69E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: [PDF] Distiller 4 errors
I have not tried the drag and drop feature = yet.  I find=20 it fascinating that you mentioned WP 5.1.  We have many customers = who still=20 use this DOS program and it would be an enormous benefit if Acrobat 4 = supported=20 drag and drop conversion of these files since I'm not sure I could get a = PDF=20 file directly out of WordPerfect 5.1 in DOS (through a PS file = first, of=20 course).  In any case, I will start testing the drag and drop = feature to=20 see what success I have.  Thanks for your input!
 
Mike Abrahamson
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 C. Scott Miller
To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 1999 = 7:01=20 PM
Subject: Re: [PDF] Distiller 4=20 errors

>The option you are describing is the = PDFMaker=20 macro which is exclusively available to Office 97 applications. =  Word 6=20 and other Windows programs do not have this option.  It is = required to=20 manually initialize a print job to the Distiller or PDFWriter driver = under=20 the File>Print option of these programs.  This is where I = have the=20 problems.  I wish Adobe had a way to automate the PDF file = creation in=20 non-Office 97 apps, but alas we cannot expect miracles.=20  :)

Neither of you have mentioned = the drag and=20 drop functionality of Acrobat 4.

I no longer have Word 6 loaded = on my=20 WIN98 machine but I can still save files to Word 6 and WordPerfect = 5.x. In a=20 few tests, simply dragging the saved document's icon over the Acrobat = 4=20 program icon will automatically launch Acrobat (and, in the = background,=20 Distiller) and convert the file. It also works with Excel 97 files, or = those=20 saved as Excel 3 files, etc.

So experiment with drag and drop = on=20 Acrobat 4. You should set up your Distiller settings first.

--=20
HTH,
C. Scott Miller

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------=_NextPart_000_0011_01BEB2AD.1E0E69E0-- __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- See form at: http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> _____________________________________________________ 9-Jun-1999 23:39:33-GMT,2609;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA16639 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 17:39:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA19788; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 18:36:34 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 9 Jun 1999 18:35:23 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA19705; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 18:35:22 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: shell18.ba.best.com: fastio owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 16:35:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Sam Ohzawa X-Sender: fastio@shell18.ba.best.com To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF Forms and CGIs Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ From: Ann-Marie Martin wrote: > >I am a web developer at the National Cancer Institute. I have been asked to >take some various application forms, convert them to PDF format (which I've >already done), and develop a CGI script which takes data entered by a web >user and sends it to the appropriate department via email, sends it into >another PDF file for record purposes, and then presents the user with a >nice HTML page. I have a lot of experience developing HTML forms using Perl >CGI scripts. I have even tried using some of my old scripts to process a >PDF form, but I have had no luck. There have been other options posted, but please also take a look at our scheme to generate PDF files with all form fields filled out from the server-side data and posted data via CGI. Demo page is available at: http://www.fastio.com/forms/form1040.html The demo has 3 disposition options for the generated PDF: display immediately, show a link on a HTML page, and email. Sam Ohzawa FastIO Systems - ClibPDF __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- See form at: http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> _____________________________________________________ 10-Jun-1999 4:15:26-GMT,3285;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA23497 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 22:15:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA06324; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 23:06:10 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 9 Jun 1999 23:03:58 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA06177; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 23:03:57 -0500 Message-Id: <199906100403.XAA07730@garmisch.dotnet.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Wed, 09 Jun 1999 23:04:46 -0500 Subject: Re: [PDF] Looking for Quicktime From: "Mark Giesen" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ QuickTime 2.12 should be on the Acrobat Reader install CD-ROM. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- thank you india thank you terror thank you disillusionment thank you fraility thank you consequence thank you thank you silence ---Alanis Morissette ---------- >From: "Callaway, Rebecca" >To: "'Post to PDF listserve'" >Subject: [PDF] Looking for Quicktime >Date: Mon, Jun 7, 1999, 9:01 PM > > > The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM > _________________________________________________________ > > Hi - > > I'm trying to do some work with Acrobat 3 and embedding Movies (on win > 95) and have been struck by this recognized bug: > > > Issue > When you click a link to a movie (*.mov) file in an Adobe Acrobat 3.0x > viewer for > Windows, the viewer returns the errors, "Cannot initialize QuickTime. > Check your > QuickTime installation." and "[file path] cannot be found. Would you > like to browse for a > replacement file?" If you click Yes and select another *.mov file, the > viewer returns the > messages again. > > A solution is listed to: > > "Install QuickTime 2.12 or earlier for Windows (you don't need to > uninstall QuickTime > 3.0; the two versions can be installed concurrently). " > > I cannot seem to find Quicktime 2.12 on the web. Can anyone help? > > > We are getting Acorbat 4, but don't have it yet. ;-) > > rebecca > > __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ > <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> > <- See form at: http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> > _____________________________________________________ > > __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- See form at: http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> _____________________________________________________ 10-Jun-1999 8:40:04-GMT,3017;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA29775 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 02:40:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA20561; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 03:32:33 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 10 Jun 1999 03:29:11 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA20393; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 03:29:10 -0500 Message-ID: <19990610082907.23226.qmail@nwcst281.netaddress.usa.net> Date: 10 Jun 99 02:29:07 MDT From: Stavros Zanos To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] 16-bit fonts and Acrobat 3.01 X-Mailer: USANET web-mailer (M3.0.0.135) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id DAA20382 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ Hello all (this is my first posting to this list). I regularly use Acrobat 3.1 to convert various MSOffice95 files (doc, xls etc) to PDF. Many of these Office files were in Greek, but they converted just fine. Things don't seem to be working though with MSOffice97, which I have recently installed under Win98 (all in their english versions). It is clear that Acrobat cannot cope with this 16bit-fonts feature of Office97 (16bit-fonts, instead of 8bit-fonts, do not need a different font for every foreign language, e.g. Arial, Arial Greek or Arial Cyrillic -- they have them all included in one file). English characters in the PDF files still show up fine, but Greeks don't; they are substituted by weird symbols. I recently had the same problem with my laser printer, a Brother HL-1050 (it shouldn't print Greek through Office97). I managed to correct this by adding the printer to the MSOffice registry, through regedit (I've been provided with info on that). Is it possible that the PDF problem is fixed in a similar way (after all, PDFWriter works as a 'printer'). Anyone with an idea? Thanks in advance. Stavros Zanos Medical student (VI) Dpt of Exp Physiology Aristotle Univ Medical School Thessaloniki, Greece http://users.med.auth.gr/~stavrosz/ ____________________________________________________________________ Get free e-mail and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- See form at: http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> _____________________________________________________ 10-Jun-1999 10:28:34-GMT,2335;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA02204 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 04:28:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA26888; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 05:24:44 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 10 Jun 1999 05:23:09 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA26792; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 05:23:07 -0500 Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 12:23:02 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Nicolas Balbo Subject: [PDF] Best settings for faster pdf display ? Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ Hello, As a book designer, I made a short Acrobat presentation to show examples of book pages (distilled from QXPress pages, with many fonts, low res bitmap and vector pictures), intended to be seen - offline - on screen. When I tried to read it with Acrobat reader 3, I found each pages rather slow to display (particularly the ones with vector illustrations : one can see the picture redrawing layer by layer, looking like an unexpected animation!). Here are my Distiller 4 settings: - I started from "Screen optimized". - I added "All fonts embedded" and "35%" subsetting and "Leave colour unchanged". Did anybody experiment better setting to accelerate pdf display? Nicolas BALBO AGIS sarl : 12 rue Calmels, 75018 Paris, France Tel : 33 (0)1 42 57 14 31 Fax : 33 (0)1 42 57 02 77 ISDN : 33 (0)1 42 57 11 00 Age quod agis __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- See form at: http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> _____________________________________________________ 10-Jun-1999 12:54:31-GMT,2139;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA05494 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 06:54:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA02755; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 07:49:44 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 10 Jun 1999 07:46:28 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA02491; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 07:46:24 -0500 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 13:43:25 +0100 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Ron Drinkwater Subject: [PDF] Picture quality suddenly deteriorated MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 4.02 M Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ This may be a Pagemaker question I have created a multi part book with many screen captures in .gif. A PDF file has been successfully created for each part. In an attempt to further improve picture quality it has been suggested that tif captures would be better. Now the picture quality has deteriorated considerably and remains so whether I capture in tiff or gif. In both pagemaker and pdf the tiff files are very blurred (including printed copy) The only way I can get clear pictures is to display them at least 80%. Previously I got clear images when reduced to 50% or less. Please can anyone suggest what has happened. -- regards Ron Drinkwater __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- See form at: http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> _____________________________________________________ 10-Jun-1999 12:56:38-GMT,2282;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA05566 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 06:56:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA03070; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 07:53:32 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 10 Jun 1999 07:51:06 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA02856; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 07:51:04 -0500 From: MLMohn@aol.com Message-ID: <475c6b9.24910ea2@aol.com> Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 08:50:42 EDT Subject: [PDF] Re: Orientation problem To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 15 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ > I'm trying to use Distiller 4 with the Adobe 4.3 printer driver, Win98, to > distill a Microsoft Word 97 document. snip... The document distills > perfectly, top-align-centered on > an 8-1/2 x 11 using Distiller 3.2. Using Distiller 4, it distills to the wrong > orientation (8.3 x 6.7 page size) snip... I finally found the magic combination that makes it work correctly: -- Under Preferences for the Distiller 4.3 printer, Paper Options, I defined a Custom p+ page with the desired size. -- From within Word, I chose Distiller as the printer, & closed the Print Setup window. -- I activated the PDF macro. (And now the magical missing ingredient!) Under General, Creation Options, I **unchecked** "Print via Distiller's printer." Thanks for your help, Rich & all!!! ML Mohn mlmohn@aol.com __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- See form at: http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> _____________________________________________________ 10-Jun-1999 13:22:04-GMT,2962;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA06208 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 07:22:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA05219; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 08:17:02 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 10 Jun 1999 08:14:21 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA04964; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 08:14:19 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.5 Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 09:13:05 -0400 From: "Robert Blackberg" To: Subject: [PDF] Questions about Page Linker Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id IAA04953 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ I've sent this email to Ambia twice now, and I haven't received any responses. Can anyone familiar with Compose 4.0 help me out? I'd really appreciate it. Thanks. I tried using your Page Linker plug-in on some of our existing documentation. I used the option to "Link to Target documents," since our master TOC's are separate pdf files from our guide files. Page Linker built the links around the page numbers on the master TOC correctly, and the cross-document links work. However, I noticed two things: 1) When I click on a link built by Page Linker on the master TOC, the response is VERY slow. Where a normal link opens the linked document in less than a second, a Page Linker link takes about 8 to 10 seconds to open the linked document. 2) The links built by Page Linker are absolute links (c:\...\...) not relative (\...). 1) Why are the Page Linker links so slow, and is there a way to speed up the process. I run a PII 400 at work so I'd hate to be running an old P90 when I click one of those links as some of our customers do. 2) Is there a way to build relative links in Page Linker. When we distribute our documentation on CD, we can't guarantee that our customers will copy our files to the C:\ drive. Thank you for your prompt response Robert Blackberg Sr. Technical Writer Fiserv Inc. __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- See form at: http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> _____________________________________________________ 10-Jun-1999 13:44:22-GMT,8478;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA06881 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 07:44:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA07352; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 08:39:21 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 10 Jun 1999 08:36:49 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA07024; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 08:36:48 -0500 Message-ID: <000f01beb346$65950460$466564c8@ntplx.net> From: "Michael Abrahamson" To: References: <199906092205.PAA06860@mail.inficad.com> Subject: Re: [PDF] Distiller 4 errors Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 09:37:34 -0400 Organization: Liturgical Publications MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000C_01BEB324.DE729B80" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01BEB324.DE729B80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: [PDF] Distiller 4 errorsWe began testing with Acrobat 3 a few months = ago and then learned of the imminent release of version 4. I did not = get far enough into my testing of Acrobat 3 to discover any major = compatibility issues. I did have success with Word 6 and Acrobat 3. = The problem is wanting to take advantage of the added features of = Acrobat 4 (e-mail, better TT font handling, etc.). Hopefully we'll be = able to develop acceptable work-arounds for the problems we have been = encountering - the list unfortunately keeps growing. Mike Abrahamson ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Rich Sprague=20 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com=20 Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 1999 6:05 PM Subject: Re: [PDF] Distiller 4 errors The option you are describing is the PDFMaker macro which is = exclusively available to Office 97 applications. Word 6 and other = Windows programs do not have this option. It is required to manually = initialize a print job to the Distiller or PDFWriter driver under the = File>Print option of these programs. This is where I have the problems. = I wish Adobe had a way to automate the PDF file creation in non-Office = 97 apps, but alas we cannot expect miracles. :) =20 In any case, does anyone have suggestions for my afore-mentioned = issues? Thanks, Rich, for your interest. =20 Sincerely, Mike Abrahamson Well, that's a fine how-do-you-do. Sorry, that I posted a bad idea. You are in a pickle. I should have known that something that works in = Office 97+ might not work in earlier versions. You may be forced into = upgrading, or going back downwards in Acrobat if you don't have any = other options. Acrobat 4x and these earlier applications, maynot get = along very well.=20 Maybe someone else on the list can shed some light. Is this your first experience with Acrobat, or do you have version 3x? = If you do, do you have the same problems? Good luck. Rich ----------------------------------------------------------------=20 Rich Sprague PDF & Digital Printing Solutions (480) 860-0050 richsprague@inficad.com Check out my new website: http://www.inficad.com/~richsprague BEST PRICING FOR ACROBAT: $199.00 (Ask about quantity discounts) ----------------------------------------------------------------=20 ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01BEB324.DE729B80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: [PDF] Distiller 4 errors
We began testing with Acrobat 3 a few months ago and = then=20 learned of the imminent release of version 4.  I did not get far = enough=20 into my testing of Acrobat 3 to discover any major compatibility = issues.  I=20 did have success with Word 6 and Acrobat 3.  The problem is wanting = to take=20 advantage of the added features of Acrobat 4 (e-mail, better TT font = handling,=20 etc.).  Hopefully we'll be able to develop acceptable work-arounds = for the=20 problems we have been encountering - the list unfortunately keeps=20 growing.
 
Mike Abrahamson
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Rich=20 Sprague
To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 1999 = 6:05=20 PM
Subject: Re: [PDF] Distiller 4=20 errors

The option you are describing is the = PDFMaker macro=20 which is exclusively available to Office 97 applications.  Word = 6 and=20 other Windows programs do not have this option.  It is required = to=20 manually initialize a print job to the Distiller or PDFWriter driver = under=20 the File>Print option of these programs.  This is where I = have the=20 problems.  I wish Adobe had a way to automate the PDF file = creation in=20 non-Office 97 apps, but alas we cannot expect miracles.=20  :)
 
In any case, does anyone = have=20 suggestions for my afore-mentioned issues?  Thanks, Rich, for = your=20 interest.
 
Sincerely,
Mike=20 Abrahamson

Well, that's a fine = how-do-you-do.=20 Sorry, that I posted a bad idea.

You are in a pickle.  I = should=20 have known that something that works in Office 97+ might not work in = earlier=20 versions. You may be forced into upgrading, or going back downwards in = Acrobat=20 if you don't have any other options. Acrobat 4x and these earlier=20 applications, maynot get along very well.

Maybe someone else = on the=20 list can shed some light.

Is this your first experience with = Acrobat,=20 or do you have version 3x? If you do, do you have the same=20 problems?

Good=20 = luck.

Rich
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------=_NextPart_000_000C_01BEB324.DE729B80-- __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- See form at: http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> _____________________________________________________ 10-Jun-1999 13:44:39-GMT,2270;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA06889 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 07:44:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA07334; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 08:39:13 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 10 Jun 1999 08:36:38 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA06968; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 08:36:37 -0500 Message-ID: <375FBFD1.3402BEC0@excosoft.se> Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 15:38:25 +0200 From: Rikard Herlitz X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] including pdf in pdf...(+postscript prob.) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ I'm making a "convert to pdf" program for a company and they wanted to get their postscript logos into the pdf-files...I know that you can pass through the postscript code directly to the printer but that is not good enough(cause you can't view them). So I thought that we could convert the postscript logos to pdf(with distiller) and you that code...but how? The distilled files are complete pdf files and I don't want to parse them and cut the relevant code out, I wan't to include the hole file in the pdf-file I'm building... If that can be aranged, how can I make to page-objects act as one page...I want to have the main pdf-page with my page and put the pdf-page with the logo on top of it... Help! /Rikard __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- See form at: http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> _____________________________________________________ 10-Jun-1999 13:47:44-GMT,4383;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA07007 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 07:47:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA07844; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 08:44:18 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 10 Jun 1999 08:41:49 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA07525; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 08:41:45 -0500 Message-ID: <001701beb347$0eb5d4c0$466564c8@ntplx.net> From: "Michael Abrahamson" To: References: <199906092239.PAA22317@wren.prod.itd.earthlink.net> Subject: Re: [PDF] PDFMaker Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 09:42:18 -0400 Organization: Liturgical Publications MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ I had a similar problem on my Win95 box. When Acrobat was reading my system info to determine what components would be installed, it apparently didn't like something and decided not to let me install PDFMaker at all. The typical install didn't choose PDFMaker for installation, and when I tried to select it in the custom install it just was left out arbitrarily. I tried the install on another machine of similar configuration and had no problems. This led me to believe I had some sort of registry conflict that Acrobat couldn't overcome in order to install PDFMaker correctly. After several attempts on that machine I have been continually unsuccessful. I will make another attempt to fully uninstall all Acrobat components and start over from scratch. Perhaps there was a piece of Acrobat 3 that got left behind and caused the problem. We shall see! :) Mike Abrahamson ----- Original Message ----- From: C. Scott Miller To: Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 1999 6:35 PM Subject: Re: [PDF] PDFMaker > > The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM > _________________________________________________________ > > > I'm having a problem installing PDFMaker on an NT box. MS Word is installed > > locally and it's Word 97, but still PDFMaker does not install. It looks > > like it's installing, but then when Word opens, there is no toolbar for > > PDFMaker or a selectable option in View/Toolbars. Does anbody have any > > suggestions. > > I had a similar problem on WIN98. It turned out that where the PDFMaker > macro was being installed is not where Word97 was setup to find it. > > First, do a Find File for PDFMAKER.DOT on your NT. If it doesn't show up > then you may have an Acrobat installation error (but I would be surprised if > you can't find it). If it is there, take note of its directory location. > Ideally, it should be in the STARTUP directory within your OFFICE program > directory. > > Then go to Word97 and look in TOOLS/OPTIONS... under the FILE LOCATIONS tab. > If Startup File types is not linked to your STARTUP directory then you need > to modify it so that it is (or wherever you have PDFMaker.DOT). > > > -- > HTH, > C. Scott Miller > > PDF R_e_s_e_a_r_c_h__C_o_m_p_a_n_i_o_n > A Designer's Guide to Adobe's Portable Document Format > http://www.performancegraphics.com > > __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ > <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> > <- See form at: http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> > _____________________________________________________ __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- See form at: http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> _____________________________________________________ 10-Jun-1999 14:13:05-GMT,6790;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA07672 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 08:13:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA10449; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 09:08:49 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 10 Jun 1999 09:06:49 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA10225; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 09:06:48 -0500 Message-Id: <199906101406.HAA75958@mail.inficad.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 07:06:44 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Distiller 4 errors From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="MS_Mac_OE_3011843204_3125392_MIME_Part" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ > THIS MESSAGE IS IN MIME FORMAT. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --MS_Mac_OE_3011843204_3125392_MIME_Part Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit >The option you are describing is the PDFMaker macro which is exclusively available to Office 97 applications. Word 6 and other Windows programs do not have this option. It is required to manually initialize a print job to the Distiller or PDFWriter driver under the File>Print option of these programs. This is where I have the problems. I wish Adobe had a way to automate the PDF file creation in non-Office 97 apps, but alas we cannot expect miracles. :) Neither of you have mentioned the drag and drop functionality of Acrobat 4. ---Isn't this available only on the PC for now? ---Wow, I must admit, I'm impressed. The PDF Maker macro is soooooo good, and I don't have older applications on my PC, I never even thought of going this direction. It does work with Office 98 docs, 'cause I tried it, although I'm not sure how it would do with graphics applications where PostScript-related "settings" are in the application's print dialog box. ---I hope this is a viable workaround for our poster. If so, you deserve three stars. I no longer have Word 6 loaded on my WIN98 machine but I can still save files to Word 6 and WordPerfect 5.x. In a few tests, simply dragging the saved document's icon over the Acrobat 4 program icon will automatically launch Acrobat (and, in the background, Distiller) and convert the file. It also works with Excel 97 files, or those saved as Excel 3 files, etc. So experiment with drag and drop on Acrobat 4. You should set up your Distiller settings first. ---Congratulations for a job well done. HTH, C. Scott Miller PDF R_e_s_e_a_r_c_h__C_o_m_p_a_n_i_o_n A Designer's Guide to Adobe's Portable Document Format http://www.performancegraphics.com Rich ---------------------------------------------------------------- Rich Sprague PDF & Digital Printing Solutions (480) 860-0050 richsprague@inficad.com Check out my new website: http://www.inficad.com/~richsprague ---------------------------------------------------------------- --MS_Mac_OE_3011843204_3125392_MIME_Part Content-type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Re: [PDF] Distiller 4 errors
>The option you are describing is= the PDFMaker macro which is exclusively available to Office 97 applications= .  Word 6 and other Windows programs do not have this option.  It = is required to manually initialize a print job to the Distiller or PDFWriter= driver under the File>Print option of these programs.  This is wher= e I have the problems.  I wish Adobe had a way to automate the PDF file= creation in non-Office 97 apps, but alas we cannot expect miracles.  := )

Neither of you have mentioned the drag and drop functionality = of Acrobat 4.

---Isn't this available only on the PC for now?

---Wow, I must admit, I'm impressed. The PDF Maker macro is soooooo good, a= nd I don't have older applications on my PC, I never even thought of going t= his direction. It does work with Office 98 docs, 'cause I tried it,  al= though I'm not sure how it would do with graphics applications where PostScr= ipt-related "settings" are in the application's print dialog box.<= BR>
---I hope this is a viable workaround for our poster. If so, you deserve th= ree stars.

I no longer have Word 6 loaded on my WIN98 machine but I can still save fil= es to Word 6 and WordPerfect 5.x. In a few tests, simply dragging the saved = document's icon over the Acrobat 4 program icon will automatically launch Ac= robat (and, in the background, Distiller) and convert the file. It also work= s with Excel 97 files, or those saved as Excel 3 files, etc.

So experiment with drag and drop on Acrobat 4. You should set up your Disti= ller settings first.

---Congratulations for a job well done.

HTH,
C. Scott Miller

PDF R_e_s_e_a_r_c_h__C_o_m_p_a_n_i_o_n
A Designer's Guide to Adobe's Portable Document Format
http://www.performancegraphics.com

Rich

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--MS_Mac_OE_3011843204_3125392_MIME_Part-- __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- See form at: http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> _____________________________________________________ 10-Jun-1999 14:17:05-GMT,2057;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA07814 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 08:16:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA10880; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 09:13:07 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 10 Jun 1999 09:12:02 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA10730; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 09:11:58 -0500 Message-Id: <5189E04A4988D111B2A100805F150CBF8A2A33@IFCEX01NT> From: "LaBrecque, Sharyl IFC" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Automatic Page Numbering Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 10:10:50 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ Please help! Looking for a way in which I can generate a page number ex., Page 1 of 360. The document in question was done in several different file formats and the easiest way to gather the document together was via pdf. However, this document, once complete, must be page numbered. I found a way to place a stamp on the document and run that through the entire document, but the stamp is static and I can't find a way to get an incremental page numer to appear on all pages. Thanks in advance! Sharyl __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- See form at: http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> _____________________________________________________ 10-Jun-1999 14:38:36-GMT,4919;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA08377 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 08:38:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA12889; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 09:32:57 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 10 Jun 1999 09:31:26 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA12675; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 09:31:24 -0500 Message-Id: <199906101431.JAA12666@everglades.binc.net> Date: 10 Jun 99 10:30:56 -0400 From: Justin Blocksom Subject: Re: [PDF] Docublobs to pdf To: pdf X-Mailer: QuickMail Pro 1.5.2 (Mac) X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="====55525156565756514857===1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ --====55525156565756514857===1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-Ascii" Reply to: Re: [PDF] Docublobs to pdf > I would ask anyone familiar with DocuTech and Adobe Acrobat 4.0 > if Acrobat 4.0 with Portable Job ticket would be our answer for initial = >print file preparation. > Does the Portable Job ticket hold the same print perameters that a = >Docublob holds? > or what needs to be dealt with at the DocuTech itself? In theory, Portable Job Ticket _could_ work, I say this hesitantly because = much = like the 6180, the job would have to be programmed almost numerically, (i.e.- page 1 cover, page 2 1/s, page 3-8 2/s green stock, insert tab page = 9 etc.) Unlike the Docutech interface which is GUI. The main problem with the = Docutech is that it uses a Postscript 2 Network Server to rip the files, PJT requires Postscript 3. We have 3 Docutech 135's and a 6180 and would love to have access to this functionality. However I think the days of Xerox building on the Docutech and giving the 6180 this functionality is a day long gone. It would be = more likely that Xerox had a newer machine with this kind of functionality = created by a Xerox product. (nothing like re-inventing the wheel, eh?) Patti, if you or Andrea hear of anything different, drop me a line off = list will ya? Thanks. Justin Blocksom Digital Production Group Printing & Publications Corp. jblocksom@printandpub.com --====55525156565756514857===1 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-Ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
          Reply to:  Re: [PDF] Docublobs to pdf

> I would ask anyone familiar = with DocuTech and Adobe Acrobat 4.0
> = if Acrobat 4.0 with Portable Job ticket = would be our answer for initial
>print = file preparation.
> Does the Portable = Job ticket hold the same print perameters = that a
>Docublob holds?
> or = what needs to be dealt with at the DocuTech = itself?

In theory, Portable Job Ticket =
_could_ work, I say this hesitantly = because much
like the 6180, the job would = have to be programmed almost numerically,
(i.e.- = page 1 cover, page 2 1/s, page 3-8 2/s green = stock, insert tab page 9 etc.)
Unlike = the Docutech interface which is GUI. The = main problem with the
Docutech is that = it uses a Postscript 2 Network Server to = rip the files,
PJT requires Postscript = 3.

We have 3 Docutech 135's and a 6180 = and would love to have access to this
functionality. = However I think the days of Xerox building = on the Docutech
and giving the 6180 this = functionality is a day long gone. It would = be more
likely that Xerox had a newer = machine with this kind of functionality created
by = a Xerox product. (nothing like re-inventing = the wheel, eh?)

Patti, if you or Andrea = hear of anything different, drop me a line = off list will ya?
Thanks.

Justin = Blocksom
Digital Production Group
Printing = & Publications Corp.
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--====55525156565756514857===1-- __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- See form at: http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> _____________________________________________________ 10-Jun-1999 14:40:15-GMT,2788;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA08424 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 08:40:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA13417; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 09:37:04 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 10 Jun 1999 09:36:00 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA13282; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 09:35:59 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990610164721.00944030@re.nettuno.it> X-Sender: reg001d1@re.nettuno.it X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 16:47:21 +0100 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: LINKSERVICE Subject: Re: [PDF] Automatic Page Numbering In-Reply-To: <5189E04A4988D111B2A100805F150CBF8A2A33@IFCEX01NT> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ Try COMPOSE, it's a plug-in from Infodata that allow you to put a new page number on PDF file. It exist only for Windows. Download a demo version from www.Infodata.com. I hope this can help you. Vainer Gilioli LinkService Srl Italy At 10:10 AM 6/10/99 -0400, you wrote: > >The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM >_________________________________________________________ > >Please help! Looking for a way in which I can generate a page number ex., >Page 1 of 360. The document in question was done in several different file >formats and the easiest way to gather the document together was via pdf. >However, this document, once complete, must be page numbered. I found a way >to place a stamp on the document and run that through the entire document, >but the stamp is static and I can't find a way to get an incremental page >numer to appear on all pages. > >Thanks in advance! >Sharyl > >__________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ ><- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> ><- See form at: http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> >_____________________________________________________ > > __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- See form at: http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> _____________________________________________________ 10-Jun-1999 14:43:10-GMT,1582;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA08488 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 08:43:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA13849; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 09:40:11 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 10 Jun 1999 09:38:59 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA13670; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 09:38:57 -0500 Message-ID: <21F9F091E899D211813A0000F824379505C7CF@LITHIUM> From: Pete Anderson To: PDF Subject: [PDF] FW: Creation 101 Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 10:38:53 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ I appologize... this sent to you all on accident. please forgive. thanks, PETE __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- See form at: http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> _____________________________________________________ 10-Jun-1999 15:29:14-GMT,1982;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA09842 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 09:29:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA18113; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 10:24:09 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 10 Jun 1999 10:22:28 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA17937; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 10:22:25 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: listowner (Unverified) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <21F9F091E899D211813A0000F824379505C7CF@LITHIUM> Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 10:21:24 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: "PDFzone.COM List Administrator" Subject: Re: [PDF] FW: Creation 101 *IGNORE THREAD* Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ Please ignore this message thread, and do not reply publicly. The 'apology' here is premature, as anti-spam measures we've implemented kept PDF list subscribers from having to deal with an off-topic message that for whatever reason was cross-posted to a long list of addresses, including numerous email lists. Bad form. - PDFzone.COM === >I appologize... this sent to you all on accident. > >please forgive. __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- See form at: http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> _____________________________________________________ 10-Jun-1999 16:23:57-GMT,2455;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA11567 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 10:23:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA24143; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 11:20:01 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 10 Jun 1999 11:18:00 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA23914; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 11:17:57 -0500 From: "Michael Peters" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Automatic Page Numbering Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 17:17:52 +0100 Message-ID: <002c01beb35c$e021b0a0$0280227b@michael> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <5189E04A4988D111B2A100805F150CBF8A2A33@IFCEX01NT> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ Sharyl LaBrecque wrote: > Please help! Looking for a way in which I can generate a > page number ex., > Page 1 of 360. The document in question was done in several > different file > formats and the easiest way to gather the document together > was via pdf. > However, this document, once complete, must be page numbered. > I found a way > to place a stamp on the document and run that through the > entire document, > but the stamp is static and I can't find a way to get an > incremental page > numer to appear on all pages. > Our product Impress will do this. You can download the tryout product and see product details at http://www.mapsoft.com/impress.htm . Regards Michael Peters Mapsoft Computer Services Limited __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- See form at: http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> _____________________________________________________ 10-Jun-1999 16:28:22-GMT,1928;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA11700 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 10:28:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA24781; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 11:25:02 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 10 Jun 1999 11:22:40 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA24461; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 11:22:39 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: sjveloff@mailbag.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199906092205.PAA06860@mail.inficad.com> References: <199906092205.PAA06860@mail.inficad.com> Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 11:23:13 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Veloff Subject: [PDF] Adobe Acrobat Reader 4.0 for UNIX now available Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ The Adobe Acrobat Reader 4.0 for UNIX platforms are now available to download. Platform specifications are listed on the page... http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/readerdownload.html They appear to be the first 4.0 Readers to be available with search (from the file naming convention "arws"). __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- See form at: http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> _____________________________________________________ 10-Jun-1999 16:42:50-GMT,2462;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA12129 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 10:42:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA26396; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 11:38:47 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 10 Jun 1999 11:37:27 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA26205; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 11:37:19 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: mgavin_list@smtp.digapp.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <5189E04A4988D111B2A100805F150CBF8A2A33@IFCEX01NT> Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 12:37:29 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Mark Gavin Subject: Re: [PDF] Automatic Page Numbering Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ >Please help! Looking for a way in which I can generate a page number ex., >Page 1 of 360. The document in question was done in several different file >formats and the easiest way to gather the document together was via pdf. >However, this document, once complete, must be page numbered. I found a way >to place a stamp on the document and run that through the entire document, >but the stamp is static and I can't find a way to get an incremental page >numer to appear on all pages. > >Thanks in advance! >Sharyl Sharyl, StampPDF will automatically generate page numbers for an entire PDF document or incremental subsets of page ranges within the document. More information on StampPDF can be found on our web site at http://www.digapp.com. Mark Gavin Vice President, Software Development Digital Applications, Inc. 215 East Providence Road Aldan, PA 19018-4129 (610) 284-4006 http://www.digapp.com __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- See form at: http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> _____________________________________________________ 10-Jun-1999 17:05:00-GMT,2734;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA12928 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 11:04:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA28571; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 12:01:11 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 10 Jun 1999 11:59:54 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA28442; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 11:59:53 -0500 From: "George Johnson" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Automatic Page Numbering Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 10:00:33 -0700 Message-ID: <000001beb362$c079d790$04e78e8c@geo_ws1.u.washington.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 In-reply-to: <5189E04A4988D111B2A100805F150CBF8A2A33@IFCEX01NT> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ > Please help! Looking for a way in which I can generate a page number ex., > Page 1 of 360. The document in question was done in several > different file > formats and the easiest way to gather the document together was via pdf. > However, this document, once complete, must be page numbered. I > found a way > to place a stamp on the document and run that through the entire document, > but the stamp is static and I can't find a way to get an incremental page > numer to appear on all pages. On the low end, you could use form fields to add page numbers. I wouldn't recommend doing this by hand, but if you have access to a VB programmer and Acrobat 4, you can use OLE automation to programmatically add a form field to each page, and assign a page number to its value. You are limited to the fonts you can use, though. Once the form fields are created, you can redistill to remove the form fields and leave the page numbers. I can send you some VB code if you're interested. __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- See form at: http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> _____________________________________________________ 10-Jun-1999 19:09:05-GMT,3337;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA16766 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 13:09:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA06735; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 14:08:33 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 10 Jun 1999 14:04:40 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA06232; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 14:04:39 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDFdev] Automated Merging or Combining of PDFs Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 20:04:20 +0100 Message-ID: <005501beb374$0bccc520$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <8525678C.006585C6.00@keybank.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdfdev@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdfdev@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVES: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDFdev list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM ____________________________________________________________ > We generate huge volumes of statements accross our lines of > business and we need > to turn them into PDFs. Many of these PDFs will need to be > merged or combined > and resulting PDF must be assigned a new filename. (The > second file can be > added after the first file's last page.) Due to the volume > of on-demand > requests, we need to automate the process. The to-be-merged > PDFs can easily be > positioned into "watched" folders. Has anyone developed an > automated merge > tool? Ideally this tool can be set up to recognize the first > 3-5 characters of > the to-be-merged PDFs, merge them, and then name the new PDF > file with the same > 3-5 characters. Merging PDF files is not at all easy unless someone writes the code to do it. There are three candidates for doing the job. 1. Acrobat Exchange. Inexpensive and controllable via OLE or from a plug-in in C; merging is not difficult, but I would not want to run an enterprise batch engine on Exchange. 2. The PDF Library from Adobe. This would allow a comparatively simple C program to merge files. The main disadvantage is that the library is difficult and expensive to license. 3. AppendPDF or AppendPDF Pro from http://www.digapp.com/. This is a batch engine which reads a parameter file to do the job. The Pro can also do things like create a table of contents or number pages. This is interemediate in cost between 1 and 2. In all cases the job of watching folders and choosing input and output files is down to you, but using one of the above reduces development from months to days. Aandi __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- See form at http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdfd -> _____________________________________________________ 10-Jun-1999 19:15:43-GMT,2100;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA16961 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 13:15:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA06940; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 14:10:58 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 10 Jun 1999 14:07:30 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA06589; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 14:07:24 -0500 Message-ID: <37600BFE.AE2272E0@accglobal.net> Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 15:03:26 -0400 From: Dunc Petrie X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (Win98; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Printer driver Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ An earlier query was made concerning printer drivers. As a newbie, I just "bought and installed" Acrobat. It works; however, given the newer printer driver I went to Adobe and downloaded it. I assume that It must replace the existing driver but where is it? I looked in Control Panel | Printers but there is no "Acrobat printer driver -- just Acrobat Distiller and Acrobat PDF Writer. Where/how would I determine the location and version of the current driver? Do I remove it (whatever "it" is) before upgrading? Or...? Do I also need to remove Acrobat Distiller and PDF Writer? Thanks in advance. __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- See form at: http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> _____________________________________________________ 10-Jun-1999 19:37:23-GMT,2525;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA17547 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 13:37:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA09133; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 14:33:17 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 10 Jun 1999 14:30:31 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA08812; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 14:30:29 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Printer driver Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 20:30:10 +0100 Message-ID: <005701beb377$a7ffec80$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <37600BFE.AE2272E0@accglobal.net> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ > An earlier query was made concerning printer drivers. > As a newbie, I just "bought and installed" Acrobat. > It works; however, given the newer printer driver I went to Adobe and > downloaded it. > I assume that It must replace the existing driver but where is it? I > looked in Control Panel | Printers but there is no "Acrobat printer > driver -- just Acrobat Distiller and Acrobat PDF Writer. > Where/how would > I determine the location and version of the current driver? > Do I remove > it (whatever "it" is) before upgrading? Or...? Do I also need > to remove > Acrobat Distiller and PDF Writer? Be careful, and let us know this information before you do anything: what version of Acrobat do you have; what platform (e.g. WIndows 98) are you using; and what is the exact thing you have downloaded? Aandi __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- See form at: http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> _____________________________________________________ 10-Jun-1999 21:13:15-GMT,3492;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA20367 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 15:13:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA18154; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 16:08:07 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 10 Jun 1999 16:03:59 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA17649; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 16:03:56 -0500 X-Sender: prodok@pop.eunet.ch Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 22:47:59 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Max Wyss Subject: Re: [PDF] Best settings for faster pdf display ? Cc: Nicolas Balbo Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ Nicolas, it depends a lot on the complexicity of the vector graphics. If they are rather complex, it just takes as long to display them; you will get about the same result with Illustrator. So, you would have two possibilities: simplify the graphics, or convert them to raster images. With Simplifying I mean that completely hidden paths would be deleted. Complex paths would be simplified (you can do it with less precision for on-screen viewing; for parallel high-quality printing, things are different, of course). Then, you could also try using the most advanced PostScript levels for your graphic (if it is an EPS), for printing and for Distilling. If that still is too complex, you would have to create a raster image. The resolution depends on the use of the document. If you need the vector based image too, you would have that in a separate document and open it from the main document with the raster image via a link. Hope, this can help. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch WWW: http://www.prodok.ch/prodok [ Bridging the Knowledge Gap ] ______________________ >As a book designer, I made a short Acrobat presentation to show examples of >book pages (distilled from QXPress pages, with many fonts, low res bitmap >and vector pictures), intended to be seen - offline - on screen. > >When I tried to read it with Acrobat reader 3, I found each pages rather >slow to display (particularly the ones with vector illustrations : one can >see the picture redrawing layer by layer, looking like an unexpected >animation!). > >Here are my Distiller 4 settings: >- I started from "Screen optimized". >- I added "All fonts embedded" and "35%" subsetting >and "Leave colour unchanged". > >Did anybody experiment better setting to accelerate pdf display? __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- See form at: http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> _____________________________________________________ 10-Jun-1999 21:23:33-GMT,4167;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA20693 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 15:23:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA19505; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 16:19:18 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 10 Jun 1999 16:16:31 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA18970; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 16:16:27 -0500 Message-Id: <199906102116.OAA73773@mail.inficad.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 14:16:21 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Best settings for faster pdf display ? From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ > Nicolas, > > it depends a lot on the complexicity of the vector graphics. If they are > rather complex, it just takes as long to display them; you will get about > the same result with Illustrator. > > So, you would have two possibilities: simplify the graphics, or convert > them to raster images. > > With Simplifying I mean that completely hidden paths would be deleted. > Complex paths would be simplified (you can do it with less precision for > on-screen viewing; for parallel high-quality printing, things are > different, of course). Then, you could also try using the most advanced > PostScript levels for your graphic (if it is an EPS), for printing and for > Distilling. > > If that still is too complex, you would have to create a raster image. The > resolution depends on the use of the document. If you need the vector based > image too, you would have that in a separate document and open it from the > main document with the raster image via a link. > > Hope, this can help. > > Max Wyss > PRODOK Engineering >>As a book designer, I made a short Acrobat presentation to show examples of >>book pages (distilled from QXPress pages, with many fonts, low res bitmap >>and vector pictures), intended to be seen - offline - on screen. >> >>When I tried to read it with Acrobat reader 3, I found each pages rather >>slow to display (particularly the ones with vector illustrations : one can >>see the picture redrawing layer by layer, looking like an unexpected >>animation!). >> >>Here are my Distiller 4 settings: >>- I started from "Screen optimized". >>- I added "All fonts embedded" and "35%" subsetting >>and "Leave colour unchanged". >> >>Did anybody experiment better setting to accelerate pdf display? Max & Nicolas: It used to be, and perhaps still is, that certain Illustrator files would "choke" an imagesetter for hours, if not forever. With the same logic, hardcore Illustrator files might have an identical effect with Acrobat. For practical purposes, when you say rasterize, this could mean open an eps file in Photoshop which then will convert the vectors to bitmaps. One could save the file in any desired resolution, place in the Quark document. and create a workable PDF. This is what you had in mind, isn't it? Rich ---------------------------------------------------------------- Rich Sprague PDF & Digital Printing Solutions (480) 860-0050 richsprague@inficad.com Check out my new website: http://www.inficad.com/~richsprague ---------------------------------------------------------------- __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- See form at: http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> _____________________________________________________ 10-Jun-1999 21:43:32-GMT,2730;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA21366 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 15:43:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA21224; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 16:39:18 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 10 Jun 1999 16:38:02 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA21097; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 16:38:00 -0500 Message-ID: <000701beb389$b0968ae0$97907018@cr213078a.glph1.on.wave.home.com> From: "Stellactica" To: References: <19990610082907.23226.qmail@nwcst281.netaddress.usa.net> Subject: [PDF] Updating PDFs on a network Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 17:39:16 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id QAA21093 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ We have a grassroots "intranet" that's entirely PDF based and we're running into difficulties updating files. If a file is open on the network by one (or more) persons, we can't update that file cus it's shared. People tend to leave files open for days so what we've been doing is temporarily breaking the network share whenever we need to save an updated version of a file. This works, but it's a lousy solution. So .... I thought that maybe if I associated PDFs with Internet Explorer, a copy of the file would get opened instead, but that doesn't work either. (And besides, every time I open a PDF in IE, it opens, but produces error msgs along the way) Has anybody else run into this and if so, how did you get around it? There must be a way of setting it so staff open a copy of the PDF instead of the original file. I welcome any suggestions/asvice ... even stuff like "set up an intranet server". Kim __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- See form at: http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> _____________________________________________________ 10-Jun-1999 21:50:58-GMT,2333;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA21627 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 15:50:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA22019; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 16:48:06 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 10 Jun 1999 16:46:47 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA21793; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 16:46:44 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990610174929.00871a20@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 17:49:29 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] Post Distiller Production In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ >Example: My catalog's PDF version needs "navigation aids" in the form of >spot icons and a browser-like "header". > > 1. Ideally I'd like to add a half inch to the top of each > page for the header ("reverse crop"), > > 2. and then paste various icons throughout the pages - > ALL THROUGH ONE APPLICATION WINDOW if possible. > Read up on PDFMark and embedding PDFMark code in EPS files. If you do this, you can have action buttons based on your graphics that appear on every page automatically w/o your having to do much else. Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- See form at: http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> _____________________________________________________ 10-Jun-1999 21:58:32-GMT,2469;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA21907 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 15:58:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA22677; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 16:53:57 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 10 Jun 1999 16:52:45 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA22527; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 16:52:44 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990610175528.00883450@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 17:55:28 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] Best settings for faster pdf display ? In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ >When I tried to read it with Acrobat reader 3, I found each pages rather >slow to display (particularly the ones with vector illustrations : one can >see the picture redrawing layer by layer, looking like an unexpected >animation!). > You sometimes see this in PDFs made from source material that people insist on "re-purposing" w/o considering the effect on the PDF. Complicated vector illustrations are a good example, and I remember seeing some real *horrors* from the Freehand folks. Since you're rendering to screen at relatively low rez when you view a PDF, consider converting some of the graphics to bitmap format rather than vector. Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- See form at: http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> _____________________________________________________ 10-Jun-1999 22:39:02-GMT,2650;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA23130 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 16:39:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA26478; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 17:35:34 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 10 Jun 1999 17:33:09 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA26285; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 17:33:06 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Updating PDFs on a network Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 23:32:44 +0100 Message-ID: <005a01beb391$29319e20$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <000701beb389$b0968ae0$97907018@cr213078a.glph1.on.wave.home.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ > We have a grassroots "intranet" that's entirely PDF based and > we're running into difficulties updating files. If a file is > open on the network by one (or more) persons, we can't update > that file cus it's shared. People tend to leave files open > for days so what we've been doing is temporarily breaking the > network share whenever we need to save an updated version of > a file. This works, but it's a lousy solution. The problem is that you *don't* have an intranet. You have file sharing. One of the great advantages of intranets, which are built on internet technology, is that the user never has the file open. The web server may open the file for a few seconds, but that's it. Web servers also provide a layer of insulation protecting the files from deliberate or accidental overwriting, if you choose. The files served need not be shared, nor writeable by the users. Aandi __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- See form at: http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> _____________________________________________________ 10-Jun-1999 23:05:08-GMT,2623;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA23856 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 17:05:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA28226; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 17:59:11 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 10 Jun 1999 17:56:59 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA27963; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 17:56:58 -0500 Message-ID: <008201beb394$b8b73a20$97907018@cr213078a.glph1.on.wave.home.com> From: "Stellactica" To: References: <005a01beb391$29319e20$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> Subject: Re: [PDF] Updating PDFs on a network Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 18:58:14 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id RAA27959 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ Thanks ... and maybe I better clarify this a bit. I *want* a true intranet, but the powers that be are holding off on the funds. Since I'm unsure of when funding will be available, I'll looking for a "band aid" ... something that'll fix it somewhat until I get my intranet. I originally said ... _________________________________________________________ | | > We have a grassroots "intranet" that's entirely PDF based and | > we're running into difficulties updating files. If a file is | > open on the network by one (or more) persons, we can't update | > that file cus it's shared. People tend to leave files open | > for days so what we've been doing is temporarily breaking the | > network share whenever we need to save an updated version of | > a file. This works, but it's a lousy solution. | __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- See form at: http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> _____________________________________________________ 10-Jun-1999 23:15:28-GMT,3205;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA24140 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 17:15:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA29169; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 18:10:49 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 10 Jun 1999 18:08:07 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA28963; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 18:08:01 -0500 Message-ID: <000201beb396$2d896d40$037bfcd0@sue> From: "Susan Gililland" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] Automatic Page Numbering Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 10:06:22 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ Try Compose, by Ambia. You can apply a "banner" which will add a page # to the page. I'm working with an earlier version of Compose and would need to know the total # of pages and add that information after the page # code in order for it to print as you've described. You would insert this code and text: %p of 350, and then apply. More recent versions of Compose may even provide a code for the total # of pages to be automatically generated - don't know. SueG -----Original Message----- From: LaBrecque, Sharyl IFC To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' Date: Thursday, June 10, 1999 7:31 AM Subject: [PDF] Automatic Page Numbering > >The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM >_________________________________________________________ > >Please help! Looking for a way in which I can generate a page number ex., >Page 1 of 360. The document in question was done in several different file >formats and the easiest way to gather the document together was via pdf. >However, this document, once complete, must be page numbered. I found a way >to place a stamp on the document and run that through the entire document, >but the stamp is static and I can't find a way to get an incremental page >numer to appear on all pages. > >Thanks in advance! >Sharyl > >__________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ ><- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> ><- See form at: http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> >_____________________________________________________ __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- See form at: http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> _____________________________________________________ 10-Jun-1999 23:28:51-GMT,2527;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA24551 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 17:28:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA30207; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 18:25:52 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 10 Jun 1999 18:24:40 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA30104; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 18:24:39 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Updating PDFs on a network Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 00:24:20 +0100 Message-ID: <005b01beb398$5e955b40$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <008201beb394$b8b73a20$97907018@cr213078a.glph1.on.wave.home.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ > Thanks ... and maybe I better clarify this a bit. I *want* a > true intranet, but the powers that be are holding off on the > funds. Since I'm unsure of when funding will be available, > I'll looking for a "band aid" ... something that'll fix it > somewhat until I get my intranet. There probably isn't much that can be done while you are using file sharing. Reader *must* lock the file, because it doesn't read the whole file into memory. It starts by reading an index, then reads the rest of the file in pieces, on demand. If the file were able to change, the index would be out of date, and Reader would load goodness knows what. It would crash or show junk. This would cause various amounts of havoc and it would be affect people's confidence in Acrobat. Aandi __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- See form at: http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> _____________________________________________________ 11-Jun-1999 3:07:08-GMT,2873;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA29733 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 21:07:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA12866; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 22:02:32 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 10 Jun 1999 21:59:29 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA12651; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 21:59:28 -0500 Message-ID: <37607B01.722AEC79@accglobal.net> Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 22:57:05 -0400 From: Dunc Petrie X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (Win98; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Printer driver References: <005701beb377$a7ffec80$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ Acrobat 4, Windows 98 and driver 4.3 for Windows 95/98. Aandi Inston wrote: > The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM > _________________________________________________________ > > > An earlier query was made concerning printer drivers. > > As a newbie, I just "bought and installed" Acrobat. > > It works; however, given the newer printer driver I went to Adobe and > > downloaded it. > > I assume that It must replace the existing driver but where is it? I > > looked in Control Panel | Printers but there is no "Acrobat printer > > driver -- just Acrobat Distiller and Acrobat PDF Writer. > > Where/how would > > I determine the location and version of the current driver? > > Do I remove > > it (whatever "it" is) before upgrading? Or...? Do I also need > > to remove > > Acrobat Distiller and PDF Writer? > > Be careful, and let us know this information before you do anything: > what version of Acrobat do you have; what platform (e.g. WIndows 98) > are you using; and what is the exact thing you have downloaded? > > Aandi > > __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ > <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> > <- See form at: http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> > _____________________________________________________ __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- See form at: http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> _____________________________________________________ 11-Jun-1999 5:03:07-GMT,3716;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA02385 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 23:03:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA20445; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 23:58:07 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 10 Jun 1999 23:55:47 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA20249; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 23:55:46 -0500 Message-ID: <524A333ECC0AD3119FC300805F851389534C44@perm02.woodside.com.au> From: "Wraight, David D." To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Updating PDFs on a network Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 12:57:08 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ I ran into this problem some time ago and I found a working solution, only in Windows (NT and probably in 95/98??). When a PDF is loaded into memory from the network, the PDF is loaded into the Client's memory/HDD as a temp file. Which means the LOCK that the network has can be broken without disrupting the user - and without going into Server Manager or User Manager to break the share's lock. When you want to update a file go into File Manager (WINFILE.EXE) and find the file you want to update, then click FILE, PROPERTIES and then CLICK the OPEN BY button. Now provided you have the right security access you will be able to see who has the file open - from here you can CLOSE ALL SESSIONS. What this does is break the locks that people have on the file and allows you to update the file with a new one. IF the person has the old PDF open and you update it and they scroll to the next page, then they will get the old PDF still, if they navigate to another file and back to the original PDF they will get the NEW PDF. This works quite well in my environment (NT SP3) and initially I tested it extensively without any hiccups at the users end. You can also use RoboCopy with is included in the NT Option Pack which allows you to do batch updates(copies) at certain times and get it to automate the 'breaking' of the locks. Dave ------------------ > > Thanks ... and maybe I better clarify this a bit. I *want* a > > true intranet, but the powers that be are holding off on the > > funds. Since I'm unsure of when funding will be available, > > I'll looking for a "band aid" ... something that'll fix it > > somewhat until I get my intranet. > > There probably isn't much that can be done while you are using > file sharing. Reader *must* lock the file, because it doesn't > read the whole file into memory. It starts by reading an index, > then reads the rest of the file in pieces, on demand. > > If the file were able to change, the index would be out of > date, and Reader would load goodness knows what. It would > crash or show junk. > > This would cause various amounts of havoc and it would be > affect people's confidence in Acrobat. > __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- See form at: http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> _____________________________________________________ 11-Jun-1999 13:34:32-GMT,3240;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA14268 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 07:34:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA15696; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 08:15:09 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 11 Jun 1999 08:12:49 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA15507; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 08:12:48 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Printer driver Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 14:12:27 +0100 Message-ID: <006101beb40c$0dc564c0$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <37607B01.722AEC79@accglobal.net> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ Ok, I see now. I assumed you had downloaded a PDFWriter update (which would be a mistake since Acrobat 4 is the latest). In Windows, what you see as a printer in the printers control panel has behind it a driver. The same driver might be used for more than one printer shown. The driver you downloaded is the Adobe PostScript driver, and this one is used by the "Acrobat Distiller" printer. I would not remove that, as putting it back might be awkward. I seem to recall that when you run the 4.3 installer it gives the choice of adding a new printer, or updating all your existing printers. I chose the update and everything seemed to go smoothly. If the worst happens, and it breaks, then remove the Acrobat Distiller printer (delete in the control panel); then reinstall that part of Acrobat. Aandi > Acrobat 4, Windows 98 and driver 4.3 for Windows 95/98. > > > An earlier query was made concerning printer drivers. > > > As a newbie, I just "bought and installed" Acrobat. > > > It works; however, given the newer printer driver I went > to Adobe and > > > downloaded it. > > > I assume that It must replace the existing driver but > where is it? I > > > looked in Control Panel | Printers but there is no > "Acrobat printer > > > driver -- just Acrobat Distiller and Acrobat PDF Writer. > > > Where/how would > > > I determine the location and version of the current driver? > > > Do I remove > > > it (whatever "it" is) before upgrading? Or...? Do I also need > > > to remove > > > Acrobat Distiller and PDF Writer? __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- See form at: http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> _____________________________________________________ 11-Jun-1999 13:46:08-GMT,4196;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA14530 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 07:46:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA17736; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 08:37:57 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 11 Jun 1999 08:36:42 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA17504; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 08:36:40 -0500 X-Server-Uuid: fc96bae8-3f98-11d2-a40d-00805f199815 Message-ID: From: "Kinstle, Joel" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Annotation Notes Problem--Solution! Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 08:36:21 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) X-WSS-ID: 1B7FD020398418-01-01 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ Last Friday I came up with an Annotations problem. Nobody here seemed to know what it was, but I did get an answer from Adobe that I thought I'd share with you in case anyone else runs into it. For those of you who recall what I'm talking about or who were eagerly awaiting (I'm sure...) the answer, here it is. For those of who don't keep my problems foremost in your minds (shame, shame), the original problem is quoted afterwards. Joel Kinstle THE SOLUTION > ---------- > Subject: Annotation Notes Problem > > The problem your reported is a known bug, which has been fixed for next > Acrobat release (4.01). > > The following steps would recreate the problem: > 1. Create a new annotation and open its text note window > 2. Enter some text. Without closing the text note window, set the mouse > focus outside the text note window. > 3. Now move the focus back to the text note window. Use the right-mouse > menu to close the note. > 4. If you save the file, you will not be able to open the text note > window. > > However, there is a simple workaround for this problem when creating new > annotations: > 1. Create a new annotation and open its text note window. > 2. Enter text, but only close the text note window by clicking on the > upper left corner of the text note's title bar. Do not use the right-mouse > menu for closing the text note's window. > THE PROBLEM > ---------- > From: Kinstle, Joel[SMTP:jkinstle@kcc.com] > Sent: Friday, June 04, 1999 4:09 PM > Subject: [PDF] Annotation Notes Problem > > I'm running into a problem with Acrobat 4.0 and the Annotation tools and > notes. I made a large number of edit marks to an existing PDF file using > the > pencil tool, line tool, and oval tool. Then I used the "show note" option > for each mark to add in further explanatory text for each edit. Then the > problem arose... > > On page 2, and only on page 2 of my 2 page document, most of the notes > have > "gone bad." When I right-click (I'm on Win95, by the way), I get a "close > note" option, but not an "open note" option. That would be fine if there > were a visible note at the time, but there isn't! All those notes (but a > few) seem to be gone. But they still show up if I change the window to > show > annotations! So they're there, they're just hiding. > > Except three. Two of them work perfectly fine. And then there's the real > outlier...one doesn't show me it's proper annotation, but does show me a > note box of a different color. Obviously, something's especially wrong > with > it. __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- See form at: http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> _____________________________________________________ 11-Jun-1999 15:47:55-GMT,2774;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA18745 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 09:47:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA28600; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 10:42:43 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 11 Jun 1999 10:40:55 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA28408; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 10:40:54 -0500 Message-Id: <199906111540.KAA28403@everglades.binc.net> Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 10:43:31 -0500 From: Clay McCullough Subject: [PDF] Off Topic - Virus Warning To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Priority: 3 In-Reply-To: <199902100131.MAA06722@fep7.mail.ozemail.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; Charset=US-ASCII X-Mailer: Mailsmith 1.1.3 (Bluto) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ Dear List, I realize the following is off topic, but I've been a victim of a destructive virus before, and it's not a pleasant experience. I thought it prudent to share the information regardless of backlash. Thank you, Clay McCullough imageplex.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ VIRUS WARNING-THIS 1 ISN'T A HOAX Yesterday (Thursday) a new and very destructive virus was unleashed on the Internet. This one is called the "Explore Virus." If you get it, it will come in an e mail which will read "I read your e-mail and will respond ASAP. Meanwhile please read the enclosed Zipped file" DO NOT OPEN THAT FILE!!!!! Remember, you can not get a computer virus from readin e mail or visiting a website. You must open a file attached to a regular e-mail. The problem here, as with the Melissa virus, is that the return address may be that of someone you know and trust, whose computer got the virus and doesn't realize he or she is spreading it. For complete details read: http://dailynews.yahoo.com/headlines/ts/story.html?s=v/nm/19990611/ts/computers_virus_3.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- See form at: http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> _____________________________________________________ 11-Jun-1999 16:16:05-GMT,2737;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA19685 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 10:16:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA31970; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 11:15:00 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 11 Jun 1999 11:10:56 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA31487; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 11:10:55 -0500 Message-ID: <002801beb425$07065e00$8d74d99b@aatd.eustis.army.mil> From: "Paul Redden" To: References: <000201beb420$6a609420$0f97a8c0@intra.iho> Subject: [PDFdev] Plug in for selecting and manipulating images Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 12:10:32 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-pdfdev@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdfdev@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVES: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDFdev list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM ____________________________________________________________ I am distributing hand written documents from the early 1600's to 1920 on CD in PDF format. I would like to write several plug-ins for acrobat reader to distribute with these and was wondering if anyone might have any suggestions. First, since many of these documents are hard to read, I would like a plug-in that selects an image and checks to see if it is black and white or gray scale, It should then have the option of converting a dithered black and white image to gray scale and softening it so it can be enhanced by the user through gamma, contrast, brightness and color inversion controls at a minimum. Second, I would like either a plug-in or a way to insert searchable criteria that is not displayed such as a transcription of the page behind the actual image so it can be searched in a manner similar to a captured document. If anyone has any ideas on how to do this or any insight as to whether it is possible or not please get in touch. Paul Redden www.digital-antiquities.com __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- See form at http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdfd -> _____________________________________________________ 11-Jun-1999 19:09:55-GMT,2941;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA24595 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 13:09:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA14209; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 14:04:53 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 11 Jun 1999 14:02:58 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA14056; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 14:02:57 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Leslie, Cynthia" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Automatic Page Numbering Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 14:01:26 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2559.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ In addition to checking out Impress, you might want to look at Quite Imposing Plus: www.quite.com. -----Original Message----- From: Michael Peters [mailto:mpeters@mapsoft.com] Sent: Thursday, June 10, 1999 12:18 PM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] Automatic Page Numbering The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ Sharyl LaBrecque wrote: > Please help! Looking for a way in which I can generate a > page number ex., > Page 1 of 360. The document in question was done in several > different file > formats and the easiest way to gather the document together > was via pdf. > However, this document, once complete, must be page numbered. > I found a way > to place a stamp on the document and run that through the > entire document, > but the stamp is static and I can't find a way to get an > incremental page > numer to appear on all pages. > Our product Impress will do this. You can download the tryout product and see product details at http://www.mapsoft.com/impress.htm . Regards Michael Peters Mapsoft Computer Services Limited __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- See form at: http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> _____________________________________________________ __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- See form at: http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> _____________________________________________________ 11-Jun-1999 23:57:38-GMT,2566;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA02100 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 17:57:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA05983; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 18:52:45 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 11 Jun 1999 18:47:56 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA05557; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 18:47:53 -0500 Message-Id: <199906112347.QAA16953@scaup.prod.itd.earthlink.net> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Terry Owen" Organization: earthlink.net To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 18:46:52 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: [PDF] question re: pdfmark/annotations In-reply-to: <199906092141.QAA08812@everglades.binc.net> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.54) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ I have been scouring acrobat resources trying to find out if it is possible to have a text note behave in the same way as a Windows help file - that is to be able to click on a word and have the text box pop-up on top of the document - without there being a note icon visible on screen. Perhaps manually adding something to the pdfmark and then distilling? I am using Acrobat 3.02 Exchange on a Windows 98 machine, 32 megs Ram and 333mz. I usually print to PDFWriter from MS Word 6.0 and then add links from Exchange. The project I'm working on is a family history - I am not a postscript programmer, just an Acrobat user so forgive me if I've missed something obvious. (FWIW, upgrading to 4.0 is not an option at the moment so I hope that this isn't something they've added to the newest version!) Thanks, Terry Owen -=-=- owen6511@earthlink.net -=-=- __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- See form at: http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> _____________________________________________________ 11-Jun-1999 17:08:24-GMT,2280;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA21132 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 11:08:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA04084; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 12:03:32 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 11 Jun 1999 12:01:35 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA03782; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 12:01:33 -0500 Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 10:03:22 -0700 Message-Id: <199906111703.KAA22123@aladdin.com> From: "L. Peter Deutsch" To: clay@imageplex.com cc: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com In-reply-to: <199906111540.KAA28403@everglades.binc.net> (message from Clay McCullough on Fri, 11 Jun 1999 10:43:31 -0500) Subject: Re: [PDF] Off Topic - Virus Warning References: <199906111540.KAA28403@everglades.binc.net> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ Thanks for the warning. Incidentally, these virus reports never seem to point out that the problems relate to Microsoft platforms and mail systems (including non-Microsoft Web browsers running on Microsoft OSs), because of weak security at the OS level and inadequate user education about security at the mail system level. Unix-based mail systems are unaffected. I don't know about Mac systems, or third-party mail software running on Microsoft OSs. -- L. Peter Deutsch | Aladdin Enterprises :::: ghost@aladdin.com 203 Santa Margarita Ave. | tel. +1-650-322-0103 (AM only); fax +1-650-322-1734 Menlo Park, CA 94025 | http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~ghost/index.html __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- See form at: http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> _____________________________________________________ 12-Jun-1999 10:42:24-GMT,3185;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA16187 for ; Sat, 12 Jun 1999 04:42:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA08494; Sat, 12 Jun 1999 05:37:04 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 12 Jun 1999 05:31:22 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA08212; Sat, 12 Jun 1999 05:31:20 -0500 X-Sender: prodok@pop.eunet.ch Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199906112347.QAA16953@scaup.prod.itd.earthlink.net> References: <199906092141.QAA08812@everglades.binc.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 12 Jun 1999 12:31:53 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Max Wyss Subject: Re: [PDF] question re: pdfmark/annotations Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ Terry, despite your statement that upgrading to Acrobat 4 is no issue, it would have quite a bit of advantages in the annotations field. In fact, it would have exactly the feature you are looking for. In Acrobat 3, you would have to use form fields. One field to show and hide the "annotation", and one for the annotation itself. If the annotation is simple text, you could also use the JavaScript app.Alert() method to display messages. Hope, this can help. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch WWW: http://www.prodok.ch/prodok [ Bridging the Knowledge Gap ] ______________________ >I have been scouring acrobat resources trying to find out if it is >possible to have a text note behave in the same way as a Windows help >file - that is to be able to click on a word and have the text box >pop-up on top of the document - without there being a note icon >visible on screen. Perhaps manually adding something to the pdfmark >and then distilling? > >I am using Acrobat 3.02 Exchange on a Windows 98 machine, 32 megs Ram >and 333mz. I usually print to PDFWriter from MS Word 6.0 and then >add links from Exchange. The project I'm working on is a family >history - I am not a postscript programmer, just an Acrobat user so >forgive me if I've missed something obvious. (FWIW, upgrading to 4.0 >is not an option at the moment so I hope that this isn't something >they've added to the newest version!) > >Thanks, > >Terry Owen __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- See form at: http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> _____________________________________________________ 12-Jun-1999 10:51:03-GMT,2009;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA16343 for ; Sat, 12 Jun 1999 04:51:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA09128; Sat, 12 Jun 1999 05:47:18 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 12 Jun 1999 05:43:26 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA08829; Sat, 12 Jun 1999 05:43:25 -0500 Date: Sat, 12 Jun 1999 16:22:41 +0530 (GMT) From: Murali Krishnan X-Sender: ujaymu01@obelix To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] PDF to Text Conversion Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ Hello, We have pdf normal files, which are to be converted to normal Text files. Is there any tool available that will allow us to convert the PDF documents to text files. Any ideas / suggestions would be of great help for us. Thanks, Murali "HAVE A NICE DAY" ******************************************************************************* NATURE NEVER DID BETRAY THE HEART THAT LOVED HER -- William Wordsworth ******************************************************************************* __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- See form at: http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> _____________________________________________________ 12-Jun-1999 12:45:47-GMT,2263;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA18713 for ; Sat, 12 Jun 1999 06:45:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA15094; Sat, 12 Jun 1999 07:41:09 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 12 Jun 1999 07:38:20 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA14918; Sat, 12 Jun 1999 07:38:19 -0500 Message-ID: <50AFCE9910E9D211982E00608CF26D1E0AB8B8@mail.roundtable.com.au> From: Karl De Abrew To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] PDF to Text Conversion Date: Sat, 12 Jun 1999 22:39:31 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ Hello Murali, > We have pdf normal files, which are to be converted to normal > Text files. > Is there any tool available that will allow us to convert the PDF > documents to text files. Jade can be used to convert PDF to text see - http://www.pdfstore.com/mainpage.asp?webpageid=216&pdfsproductid=1028 We also have a review of Gemini and a downloadable demonstration version at http://www.planetpdf.com/mainpage.asp?WebPageID=353 Datawatch also have a plug-in called Redwing that can be used for PDF to text conversion - see http://www.pluginsource.com/acrobat/redwing.html for more details. I hope this helps. regards, Karl De Abrew karl@PlanetPDF.com Planet PDF - Code Cuts, AcroBuddies and PDF Store http://www.PlanetPDF.com/ __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- See form at: http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> _____________________________________________________ 12-Jun-1999 14:15:06-GMT,2164;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA20598 for ; Sat, 12 Jun 1999 08:15:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA20118; Sat, 12 Jun 1999 09:08:52 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 12 Jun 1999 09:05:40 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA19840; Sat, 12 Jun 1999 09:05:38 -0500 Date: Sat, 12 Jun 1999 07:08:21 -0700 Message-Id: <199906121408.HAA01151@aladdin.com> From: "L. Peter Deutsch" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com CC: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com In-reply-to: <50AFCE9910E9D211982E00608CF26D1E0AB8B8@mail.roundtable.com.au> (message from Karl De Abrew on Sat, 12 Jun 1999 22:39:31 +1000) Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF to Text Conversion References: <50AFCE9910E9D211982E00608CF26D1E0AB8B8@mail.roundtable.com.au> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ > We have pdf normal files, which are to be converted to normal > Text files. > Is there any tool available that will allow us to convert the PDF > documents to text files. For a free conversion tool, see the pstotext tool referenced in the documentation that accompanies Ghostscript (URL below). -- L. Peter Deutsch | Aladdin Enterprises :::: ghost@aladdin.com 203 Santa Margarita Ave. | tel. +1-650-322-0103 (AM only); fax +1-650-322-1734 Menlo Park, CA 94025 | http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~ghost/index.html __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- See form at: http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> _____________________________________________________ 12-Jun-1999 15:21:00-GMT,3670;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA21977 for ; Sat, 12 Jun 1999 09:20:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA24834; Sat, 12 Jun 1999 10:15:51 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 12 Jun 1999 10:12:47 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA24598; Sat, 12 Jun 1999 10:12:46 -0500 Message-Id: <199906121512.IAA36418@mail.inficad.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Sat, 12 Jun 1999 08:12:43 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF to Text Conversion From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ > > The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM > Hello Murali, > >> We have pdf normal files, which are to be converted to normal >> Text files. >> Is there any tool available that will allow us to convert the PDF >> documents to text files. > > Jade can be used to convert PDF to text see - > http://www.pdfstore.com/mainpage.asp?webpageid=216&pdfsproductid=1028 > > We also have a review of Gemini and a downloadable demonstration version > at http://www.planetpdf.com/mainpage.asp?WebPageID=353 > > Datawatch also have a plug-in called Redwing that can be used for PDF to > text conversion - see > http://www.pluginsource.com/acrobat/redwing.html for more details. > > I hope this helps. > > regards, > > Karl De Abrew > karl@PlanetPDF.com > Planet PDF - Code Cuts, AcroBuddies and PDF Store > http://www.PlanetPDF.com/ The cost of these programs runs from $199 to $599 which, if you have a workflow and can justify the cost/investment, is more than reasonable. Okay, I admit, $600 seems a little steep. Regretably, for us principally Macintosh users -- I say principally, because I have recently succumbed and bought a PC so I could understand the differences between Acrobat 4x on the Mac and PC (they are significant) -- two of the three programs are for Windoze only. Should you workflow not require a full application/plug-in, or your pockets not be quite so deep, there is a "free" workaround. Simply highlight the text you wish to copy, copy to the clipboard, and paste into your favorite text editor. You're then free to manipulate the text as you please. ---P.S. to Karl. I downloaded Gemini 1.2 for the Mac, naturally, and it worked quite nicely with Exchange 3x. However, it was not quite so friendly with 4x, and wouldn't work. Rich ---------------------------------------------------------------- Rich Sprague PDF & Digital Printing Solutions (480) 860-0050 richsprague@inficad.com Check out my new website: http://www.inficad.com/~richsprague ---------------------------------------------------------------- __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- See form at: http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> _____________________________________________________ 14-Jun-1999 6:36:28-GMT,3830;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA12349 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 00:36:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA23348; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 01:23:02 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 14 Jun 1999 01:17:40 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA23029; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 01:17:38 -0500 Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 09:17:10 +0200 From: Rebecca Rachmany Subject: [PDF] Bitmap quality To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-id: <12386.990614@tech-tav.com> Organization: TECH-TAV Documentation Ltd. MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.22) S/N CFBF0053 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ Shalom Pdf group, I searched the archives but was unable to come up with matches. Sorry if the question has been asked before. I will try to be as specific as possible to get accurate answers. I am having no end of trouble with bitmap quality when I convert to PDF. The documents are in Word and most of the bitmaps were created with Paint Shop Pro's capture utility. I use Word's print function to create a postscript file and then I import into distiller. Following are the problems I encounter: 1. Many of the bitmaps appear in the PDF in black-and-white only rather than color. 2. The print quality of the bitmaps varies, sometimes with the identical distiller settings. Following are the solutions I have tried: 1. I have installed the distiller patches for 3.01a and 3.02 2. I have played around with the distiller Job Options | Compression settings. (But I would be happy to receive advice on optimal settings for this dialog box. I haven't found much variation with the different settings, or at least I have found that some settings are better for some documents but not all documents.) 3. I have tried different screen settings for creating screen captures. However, in some cases this is impractical because the application needs a high screen resolution in order to have the captures come out properly; or I am creating the PDF after the captures were created and it is not practical to re-capture everything. Following are my questions: 1. What is the optimal display setting for making screen captures in order to ensure they will come out nicely in the PDF? 2. Do you have suggestions for creating decent PDF graphics display quality if you have captured under the non-optimal display setting and now you are stuck with the existing document? 3. What are the optimal settings for having good screen quality? (Please don't tell me "no compression" because the size of the PDF would be prohibitive if I used this option on a 300-page manual with captures on each page.) 4. Is this problem fixed in Acrobat 4? If so, I will gladly pay for the upgrade, but if not, I will gladly keep my money in my (company's) pocket. Rebecca Rachmany TECH-TAV Documentation Ltd. PO Box 1384 Hod Hasharon 45112 info@tech-tav.com 972-9-7419314 http://www.tech-tav.com __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- See form at: http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> _____________________________________________________ 14-Jun-1999 11:35:02-GMT,3115;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA18523 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 05:34:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA05807; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 06:21:04 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 14 Jun 1999 06:16:35 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA05549; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 06:16:34 -0500 From: Laura.Dietz@arcor.net X-Lotus-FromDomain: ARCOR To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <41256790.0043228F.00@slz-01-hub01.cni.net> Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 13:15:55 +0100 Subject: Antwort: [PDF] Wrong orientation Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ Hi, We (Win95, Word95) experienced trouble when setting the pageorientation (in word) to landscape ... Did you use landscape or portrait? Regards, Laura Dietz MLMohn@aol.com 09.06.99 19:49 Bitte antworten an pdf@lists.pdfzone.com An: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Kopie: (Blindkopie: Laura Dietz/FIO_EXT/Eschborn/Arcor) Thema: [PDF] Wrong orientation The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ I'm trying to use Distiller 4 with the Adobe 4.3 printer driver, Win98, to distill a Microsoft Word 97 document. My problem is that the document measures 6.7 x 8.3 inches. I need it to distill to either its current size, or as an 8-1/2 x 11. The document distills perfectly, top-align-centered on an 8-1/2 x 11 using Distiller 3.2. Using Distiller 4, it distills to the wrong orientation (8.3 x 6.7 page size). I have tried: -- searching the Adobe web site -- putting the line <> setdistillerparams into the Example.ps file -- printing to disk & distilling the file separately using different printer drivers -- changing the fonts from TrueType to Postscript -- changing the Default Page Size in the Distiller Job Options -- setting up a custom page size under Preferences for the Acrobat Distiller printer driver What did I miss??? ML Mohn mlmohn@aol.com __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- See form at: http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> _____________________________________________________ __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- See form at: http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> _____________________________________________________ 14-Jun-1999 11:45:56-GMT,2185;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA18747 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 05:45:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA06602; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 06:33:59 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 14 Jun 1999 06:30:09 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA06399; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 06:30:08 -0500 From: Laura.Dietz@arcor.net X-Lotus-FromDomain: ARCOR To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Message-ID: <41256790.00445378.00@slz-01-hub01.cni.net> Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 13:29:39 +0100 Subject: [PDF] extracting PDF-Links Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ Hi List, We need a tool, which extracts the PDF-Link destinations of a given PDF-File. example: Doc A refers by PDF-Link to the documentes B,C and D We need the information B,C and D Can someone help? Regards, Laura Dietz =================================================================== Mannesmann Arcor AG & Co., Koelnerstr. 5, 65760 Eschborn , Germany =================================================================== Laura Dietz, FIO E-Mail: Laura.Dietz@arcor.net Phone: +49 69 2169 - 5659, Fax: - 3939 =================================================================== For more information: http://www.arcor.net =================================================================== __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- See form at: http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> _____________________________________________________ 14-Jun-1999 12:03:28-GMT,1801;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA19107 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 06:03:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA07955; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 06:54:10 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 14 Jun 1999 06:50:10 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA07676; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 06:50:07 -0500 Message-ID: <001b01beb65c$2066b140$d33ac818@videotron.ca> From: "Cerebrus" To: Subject: [PDF] Printing Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 07:49:48 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ Question: To print page two from page one using either a button or text link...how? TIA List people e-mail: Cerebrus@YouKnowWhere.com web: http://Cerebrus.YouKnowWhere.com __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- See form at: http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> _____________________________________________________ 14-Jun-1999 14:53:13-GMT,2809;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA23334 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 08:53:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA21620; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 09:46:02 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 14 Jun 1999 09:44:51 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA21457; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 09:44:50 -0500 Message-ID: <3765160C.512F@wt.net> Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 09:47:40 -0500 From: Rick Bishop Organization: PRP Media X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Bitmap quality References: <199906140617.BAA23048@everglades.binc.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ Rebecca: This has nothing to do with Acrobat. You are capturing a 72 dpi image and trying to display or print at a higher resolution. This will always result in poor output no matter which application you use for the output. The only way to improve the quality of the image output is to reduce the size of the final image before importing into Acrobat. A full page 8.5 x 11 inch 24 bit bitmap (.bmp) 72 dpi screen capture image at 1024x768 will be ~1,500k, 8 bit = 500k, 24 bit jpeg = 100k. When you print this at a print resolution of 140 dpi, it looks terrible. However, if you reduce the image size to 4.5 x 5.5 inches; changing the resolution to 140 dpi in your paint program, the print or screen display will be much smaller, but the quality is much better and the file size remains the same. The only way to get a high quality 8.5x11" image is to scan in the original at 300-400 dpi with even larger file sizes. It's very difficult to get reasonable quality full letter size color pages at less than 100k each no matter how you do it. Rick Bishop Houston Rebecca Rachmany wrote: Following are my questions: 1. What is the optimal display setting for making screen captures inorder to ensure they will come out nicely in the PDF? __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- See form at: http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> _____________________________________________________ 14-Jun-1999 14:53:37-GMT,2585;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA23340 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 08:53:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA21511; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 09:45:02 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 14 Jun 1999 09:43:11 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA21270; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 09:43:08 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: kfoss@mailbag.com Message-Id: Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 09:42:09 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] Bitmap quality Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ >Following are the problems I encounter: >1. Many of the bitmaps appear in the PDF in black-and-white only >rather than color. I take it you're printing to PS then Distilling, correct? Are you certain you're using a driver for a color PS printer? If you don't, you'll likely get b/w output. >3. What are the optimal settings for having good screen quality? >(Please don't tell me "no compression" because the size of the PDF >would be prohibitive if I used this option on a 300-page manual with >captures on each page.) Use ZIP compression, not JPG. ZIP is lossless and should work very nicely for screen captures. >4. Is this problem fixed in Acrobat 4? If so, I will gladly pay for >the upgrade, but if not, I will gladly keep my money in my >(company's) pocket. Download Reader 4 (free from Adobe) and have a look at the PDFs you've already created. Chances are the bitmaps will look a great deal better. Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- See form at: http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> _____________________________________________________ 14-Jun-1999 15:41:36-GMT,4409;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA25008 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 09:41:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA26331; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 10:37:32 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 14 Jun 1999 10:36:07 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA26144; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 10:36:05 -0500 Message-ID: <37652156.27637F23@beacon.com> Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 11:35:50 -0400 From: "Patrick Frazer" Organization: The Beacon Group X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Font problem with distiller 3.x on Win/UNIX Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ I'm at my wits end -- I've searched the Net extensively for a solution to my problem but have come up empty. I'm hoping someone on this list can shed some light on this. Helping me solve this problem will hereby elevate you to 'god' status, at least in my opinion... Here's some background: We are a publishing services house with a heterogeneous computing environment. We have 575+ PostScript type 1 fonts (stored in Mac format). We have a UNIX based tech journal publishing system based on the Arbortext Adept package. Adept generates fontless PostScript files which we prepare for shipping and distilling by embedding the PostScript fonts with a Perl script. This script converts the Mac font into a UNIX format using the fmAdobeMacFont conversion utility included in the UNIX FrameMaker package and embeds the fonts in the PostScript file. We've been doing this for years and there's no surprises in the process. A separate issue is that of the 575+ fonts we use, a bunch of them have been written out from Fontographer 4.0.3. Now here's the problem: When we distill these PostScript files, certain character glyphs are displayed incorrectly. Specifically, glyphs in slots 129-255 (decimal) are replaced with glyphs that are not in the encoding vector. (But are in the font) The glyphs only display incorrectly in Acrobat Reader; the same page *printed from Reader* is correct. The only fonts that have this problem are fonts that were BOTH written out in Fontographer AND written as an Adobe Standard encoding. (About 60 of our 575 fonts) Here's where it gets sticky... -- Files distilled with Distiller 2.1 on a Mac do not exhibit this problem when viewed in Reader on any platform or version. However, we need to produce byte-serviceable PDF files, so... -- Files distilled with Distiller 3.x on a Windows or UNIX machine DO exhibit the problem, but only when viewed in Reader 3.x on a Windows or UNIX machine. Reader 3.x on a Mac and Reader 4.x on any platform view the file correctly. -- Files distilled with Distiller 4.x on Windows do not exhibit the problem in Reader, any version, any platform. Our production process uses Acrobat Distiller 3.01 for UNIX. From the text above, it would seem that the simplest solution would be to upgrade our UNIX Distiller to 4.0. I'm sure you can see where this is going -- Adobe hasn't (and doesn't seem to intend to) release a 4.0 Distiller for UNIX. The bastards! It looks like I have no choice but to start running the distiller on a PC, which I REALLY DO NOT want to do! Has anyone seen anything like this? Any suggestions, advice or leads would be appreciated. Thanks! -Patrick __________________________________________________________ Patrick Frazer Mgr, Computer Systems http://www.beacon.com/~frazer The Beacon Group __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- See form at: http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> _____________________________________________________ 14-Jun-1999 15:59:11-GMT,2445;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA25609 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 09:59:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA27319; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 10:47:32 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 14 Jun 1999 10:45:43 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA27060; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 10:45:42 -0500 Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 08:47:19 -0700 Message-Id: <199906141547.IAA04803@aladdin.com> From: "L. Peter Deutsch" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com CC: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com In-reply-to: <37652156.27637F23@beacon.com> (frazer@beacon.com) Subject: Re: [PDF] Font problem with distiller 3.x on Win/UNIX References: <37652156.27637F23@beacon.com> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ We have seen a lot of problems in fonts produced by Fontographer: real numbers where the Type 1 spec calls for integers, UniqueID values of 0, ridiculous BlueScale values. If any of the problem fonts have UniqueID values of 0, especially if more than one such font occurs on a single page, I speculate that this might confuse Acrobat Reader. (This is pure speculation: I know nothing about the implementation of Reader.) I suggest you take a look at your fonts, and if they have UniqueIDs of 0, change the UniqueIDs to something reasonable. (You'll have to change this in both the clear text and eexec sections of the file.) Sorry, this is the only guess I've got. -- L. Peter Deutsch | Aladdin Enterprises :::: ghost@aladdin.com 203 Santa Margarita Ave. | tel. +1-650-322-0103 (AM only); fax +1-650-322-1734 Menlo Park, CA 94025 | http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~ghost/index.html __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- See form at: http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> _____________________________________________________ 14-Jun-1999 15:59:41-GMT,6046;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA25642 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 09:59:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA27735; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 10:51:31 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 14 Jun 1999 10:50:23 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA27596; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 10:50:21 -0500 Message-ID: <007801beb67d$51f301c0$466564c8@ntplx.net> From: "Michael Abrahamson" To: "PDF List" Subject: [PDF] Once again... font embedding Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 11:48:17 -0400 Organization: Liturgical Publications MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0075_01BEB65B.CAB6A840" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0075_01BEB65B.CAB6A840 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable My apologies for revisiting such an exhausted topic, but I wanted to = update those interested on my prior success in editing text in = non-installed fonts. I found the document I had created with about 20 different TrueType and = Type 1 fonts (only 2 pages - list of CD titles). This document was = created in Word 97 (PC) and I used PDFWriter 3.02 to create the PDF with = the "embed all fonts" option turned on under the printer driver = settings. Using either Acrobat Exchange 3.02 or Acrobat 4 I am able to = view and print the document with the original fonts on another machine = that does not have ANY of the 20 or so fonts installed that are = contained in the PDF file. However, I am ALSO able to use the Text = TouchUp tool in both programs to edit any text I want in the document - = again using the same embedded fonts that AREN'T installed on the second = machine. The message I get reads... "Warning: This embedded font is not installed on your system. To edit = text in this font you must unembed the font. Unembed the font now?" I can say yes or no. If I say yes then I can edit to my heart's = content. This flies in the face of what many people have told me is = impossible to do with Acrobat. The supposed rule is - if the font is = not installed, you cannot edit that area of text. I hate to sound = confrontational, but how am I able to prove that statement wrong with = this particular document? And again, the ability is nice to have but = not necessary. I am more interested in the inconsistency between = supposed rule and proven reality. Mike Abrahamson Liturgical Publications ------=_NextPart_000_0075_01BEB65B.CAB6A840 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
My apologies for revisiting such an exhausted topic, = but I=20 wanted to update those interested on my prior success in editing text in = non-installed fonts.
 
I found the document I had created with about 20 = different=20 TrueType and Type 1 fonts (only 2 pages - list of CD titles).  This = document was created in Word 97 (PC) and I used PDFWriter 3.02 to create = the PDF=20 with the "embed all fonts" option turned on under the printer driver=20 settings.  Using either Acrobat Exchange 3.02 or Acrobat 4 I = am able=20 to view and print the document with the original fonts on another = machine that=20 does not have ANY of the 20 or so fonts installed that are contained in = the PDF=20 file.  However, I am ALSO able to use the Text TouchUp tool in both = programs to edit any text I want in the document - again using the same = embedded=20 fonts that AREN'T installed on the second machine.  The message I = get=20 reads...
 
"Warning: This embedded font is not installed on = your=20 system.  To edit text in this font you must unembed the font.  = Unembed=20 the font now?"
 
I can say yes or no.  If I say yes then I can = edit to my=20 heart's content.  This flies in the face of what many people have = told me=20 is impossible to do with Acrobat.  The supposed rule is - if the = font is=20 not installed, you cannot edit that area of text.  I hate to sound=20 confrontational, but how am I able to prove that statement wrong = with this=20 particular document?  And again, the ability is nice to have but = not=20 necessary.  I am more interested in the inconsistency between = supposed rule=20 and proven reality.
 
Mike Abrahamson
Liturgical Publications
------=_NextPart_000_0075_01BEB65B.CAB6A840-- __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- See form at: http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> _____________________________________________________ 14-Jun-1999 16:54:33-GMT,2005;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA27408 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 10:54:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA00278; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 11:47:50 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 14 Jun 1999 11:46:25 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA00065; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 11:46:24 -0500 Message-ID: <376531CF.D8902AEF@aip.org> Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 12:46:07 -0400 From: "Christopher B. Hamlin" Organization: AIP X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (X11; I; SunOS 5.6 sun4u) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Font problem with distiller 3.x on Win/UNIX References: <37652156.27637F23@beacon.com> <199906141547.IAA04803@aladdin.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ Try searching the archives at pdfzone.com. I believe there was some discussion of problems where fonts are marked as StandardEncoding when they are not, and even if they are StandardEncoding, the glyph selection of the font (vs the Standard Roman set) may also be an influence on Acrobat. ch -- Christopher B. Hamlin chamlin@aip.org __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- See form at: http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> _____________________________________________________ 14-Jun-1999 16:54:34-GMT,9071;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA27412 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 10:54:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA00551; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 11:49:51 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 14 Jun 1999 11:48:45 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA00350; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 11:48:44 -0500 Message-Id: <199906141648.JAA49686@mail.inficad.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 09:48:40 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Once again... font embedding From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="MS_Mac_OE_3012198520_368660_MIME_Part" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ > THIS MESSAGE IS IN MIME FORMAT. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --MS_Mac_OE_3012198520_368660_MIME_Part Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit My apologies for revisiting such an exhausted topic, but I wanted to update those interested on my prior success in editing text in non-installed fonts. --IT IS A GOOD TOPIC WITH SOME REAL ISSUES, MANY WHICH ARE CONFUSING AND CONTRADICTORY, AT BEST. I found the document I had created with about 20 different TrueType and Type 1 fonts (only 2 pages - list of CD titles). This document was created in Word 97 (PC) and I used PDFWriter 3.02 to create the PDF with the "embed all fonts" option turned on under the printer driver settings. Using either Acrobat Exchange 3.02 or Acrobat 4 I am able to view and print the document with the original fonts on another machine that does not have ANY of the 20 or so fonts installed that are contained in the PDF file. However, I am ALSO able to use the Text TouchUp tool in both programs to edit any text I want in the document - again using the same embedded fonts that AREN'T installed on the second machine. The message I get reads... "Warning: This embedded font is not installed on your system. To edit text in this font you must unembed the font. Unembed the font now?" I can say yes or no. If I say yes then I can edit to my heart's content. This flies in the face of what many people have told me is impossible to do with Acrobat. The supposed rule is - if the font is not installed, you cannot edit that area of text. ---AH, HA. BETTER BEWARE. ONCE YOU UNEMBED THE FONT YOU ARE NO LONGER WORKING WITH THE FONT YOU STARTED WITH. RATHER, YOU ARE NOW SEEING A LOOKALIKE FONT CREATED WITH ADOBE'S MULTIPLE MASTER TECHNOLOGY. BY UNEMBEDDING, YOU HAVE BASICALLY REMOVED THE FONT. IT MAKE LOOK MUCH THE SAME, BUT I ASSURE YOU, IT IS NOT. ---TO SEE WHAT I MEAN, TRY CREATING A SIMPLE TEXT DOCUMENT WITH A WEIRD LOOKING SERIF FONT. PRINT YOURSELF A COPY AND THEN CREATE A PDF FILE. CHECK DOCUMENT INFO > FONTS TO MAKE SURE IT'S EMBEDDED. REMEMBER WHAT IT SAYS UNDER "USED FONT". (THIS IS LIKE A MAGIC TRICK--REMEMBER THE CARD YOU CHOSE AND PUT IT BACK IN THE DECK). ---THEN DO WHAT YOU JUST WERE TALKING ABOUT. UNEMBED THE FONT. MAKE YOUR CHANGES AND PRINT ANOTHER COPY. CHECK DOCUMENT INFO > FONTS AGAIN. WHAT DOES IT SAY FOR USED FONT? I BET IT SAYS SOMETHING LIKE "ADOBE SERIF MM", DOESN'T IT? I hate to sound confrontational, but how am I able to prove that statement wrong with this particular document? And again, the ability is nice to have but not necessary. I am more interested in the inconsistency between supposed rule and proven reality. ---UNFORTUNATELY, YOUR INTENTIONS WERE GOOD IN TRYING THIS OUT. HOWEVER, ADOBE'S INTENTIONS IN PROTECTING THEIR FONTS IS EVEN BETTER. ---THE RULE WAS, AND IS...WITHOUT THE FONTS RESIDING ON THE HOST MACHINE, YOU CAN'T EDIT A PDF FILE FILE USING EMBEDDED FONTS. Mike Abrahamson Liturgical Publications RICH ---------------------------------------------------------------- Rich Sprague PDF & Digital Printing Solutions (480) 860-0050 richsprague@inficad.com Check out my new website: http://www.inficad.com/~richsprague ---------------------------------------------------------------- --MS_Mac_OE_3012198520_368660_MIME_Part Content-type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Re: [PDF] Once again... font embedding
My apologies for revisiting such an exhausted topic, but I want= ed to update those interested on my prior success in editing text in non-ins= talled fonts.

--IT IS A GOOD TOPIC WITH SOME REAL ISSUES, MANY WHICH ARE CONFUSING AND CO= NTRADICTORY, AT BEST.
 
I found the document I had created with about 20 different TrueType and Typ= e 1 fonts (only 2 pages - list of CD titles).  This document was create= d in Word 97 (PC) and I used PDFWriter 3.02 to create the PDF with the "= ;embed all fonts" option turned on under the printer driver settings. &= nbsp;Using either Acrobat Exchange 3.02 or Acrobat 4 I am able to view and p= rint the document with the original fonts on another machine that does not h= ave ANY of the 20 or so fonts installed that are contained in the PDF file. =  

However, I am ALSO able to use the Text TouchUp tool in both programs to ed= it any text I want in the document - again using the same embedded fonts tha= t AREN'T installed on the second machine.  The message I get reads...  
"Warning: This embedded font is not installed on your system.  To= edit text in this font you must unembed the font.  Unembed the font no= w?"

I can say yes or no.  If I say yes then I can edit to my heart's conte= nt.  This flies in the face of what many people have told me is impossi= ble to do with Acrobat.  The supposed rule is - if the font is not inst= alled, you cannot edit that area of text.  

---AH, HA. BETTER BEWARE. ONCE YOU UNEMBED THE FONT YOU ARE NO LONGER WORKI= NG WITH THE FONT YOU STARTED WITH. RATHER, YOU ARE NOW SEEING A LOOKALIKE FO= NT CREATED WITH ADOBE'S MULTIPLE MASTER TECHNOLOGY. BY UNEMBEDDING, YOU HAVE= BASICALLY REMOVED THE FONT. IT MAKE LOOK MUCH THE SAME, BUT I ASSURE YOU, I= T IS NOT.

---TO SEE WHAT I MEAN, TRY CREATING A SIMPLE TEXT DOCUMENT WITH A WEIRD LOO= KING SERIF FONT. PRINT YOURSELF A COPY AND THEN CREATE A PDF FILE. CHECK DOC= UMENT INFO > FONTS TO MAKE SURE IT'S EMBEDDED. REMEMBER WHAT IT SAYS UNDE= R "USED FONT". (THIS IS LIKE A MAGIC TRICK--REMEMBER THE CARD YOU = CHOSE AND PUT IT BACK IN THE DECK).

---THEN DO WHAT YOU JUST WERE TALKING ABOUT. UNEMBED THE FONT. MAKE YOUR CH= ANGES AND PRINT ANOTHER COPY. CHECK DOCUMENT INFO > FONTS AGAIN. WHAT DOE= S IT SAY FOR USED FONT? I BET IT SAYS SOMETHING LIKE "ADOBE SERIF MM&qu= ot;, DOESN'T IT?
 
I hate to sound confrontational, but how am I able to prove that statement = wrong with this particular document?  And again, the ability is nice to= have but not necessary.  I am more interested in the inconsistency bet= ween supposed rule and proven reality.

---UNFORTUNATELY, YOUR INTENTIONS WERE GOOD IN TRYING THIS OUT. HOWEVER, AD= OBE'S INTENTIONS IN PROTECTING THEIR FONTS IS EVEN BETTER.


---THE RULE WAS, AND IS...WITHOUT THE FONTS RESIDING ON THE HOST MACHINE, Y= OU CAN'T EDIT A PDF FILE FILE USING EMBEDDED FONTS.

 
Mike Abrahamson
Liturgical Publications

RICH

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--MS_Mac_OE_3012198520_368660_MIME_Part-- __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- See form at: http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> _____________________________________________________ 14-Jun-1999 16:54:44-GMT,1956;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA27421 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 10:54:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA31932; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 11:36:24 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 14 Jun 1999 11:34:57 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA31754; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 11:34:55 -0500 From: "George Johnson" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Printing Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 09:35:32 -0700 Message-ID: <000001beb683$eb7e0c30$04e78e8c@geo_ws1.u.washington.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 In-reply-to: <001b01beb65c$2066b140$d33ac818@videotron.ca> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ > Question: > > To print page two from page one using either a button or text link...how? > In a link "Action Type" or button "Mouse Up" JavaScript, add the following: this.print(false, this.pageNum + 1, this.pageNum + 1); __________________* FREE OFFER * ____________________ <- Register for a free subscription to Desktop Publishers Journal -> <- See form at: http://www.pdfzone.com/free-dpjsub.html?pdf -> _____________________________________________________ 14-Jun-1999 17:57:57-GMT,12075;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA29483 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 11:57:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA05756; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 12:36:10 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 14 Jun 1999 12:34:50 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA05576; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 12:34:49 -0500 Message-ID: <00ad01beb68c$95812ca0$466564c8@ntplx.net> From: "Michael Abrahamson" To: References: <199906141648.JAA49686@mail.inficad.com> Subject: Re: [PDF] Once again... font embedding Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 13:37:33 -0400 Organization: Liturgical Publications MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00AA_01BEB66B.0E5722A0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00AA_01BEB66B.0E5722A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: [PDF] Once again... font embeddingAha! Excellent detective work, = good man. I followed your suggestion and low and behold the fonts did = change upon editing. I recognize the MM font names from previous = attempts to replicate my earlier success. It must be that the apparent = success I had in editing text in those fonts was hidden beneath the = appearance of the MM set. I regret that my detective work was sub par. = Thanks for straightening out a subject that has baffled me for the = longest time. :) Mike Abrahamson Liturgical Publications ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Rich Sprague=20 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com=20 Sent: Monday, June 14, 1999 12:48 PM Subject: Re: [PDF] Once again... font embedding My apologies for revisiting such an exhausted topic, but I wanted to = update those interested on my prior success in editing text in = non-installed fonts. --IT IS A GOOD TOPIC WITH SOME REAL ISSUES, MANY WHICH ARE CONFUSING = AND CONTRADICTORY, AT BEST. =20 I found the document I had created with about 20 different TrueType = and Type 1 fonts (only 2 pages - list of CD titles). This document was = created in Word 97 (PC) and I used PDFWriter 3.02 to create the PDF with = the "embed all fonts" option turned on under the printer driver = settings. Using either Acrobat Exchange 3.02 or Acrobat 4 I am able to = view and print the document with the original fonts on another machine = that does not have ANY of the 20 or so fonts installed that are = contained in the PDF file. =20 However, I am ALSO able to use the Text TouchUp tool in both = programs to edit any text I want in the document - again using the same = embedded fonts that AREN'T installed on the second machine. The message = I get reads... =20 "Warning: This embedded font is not installed on your system. To = edit text in this font you must unembed the font. Unembed the font = now?" I can say yes or no. If I say yes then I can edit to my heart's = content. This flies in the face of what many people have told me is = impossible to do with Acrobat. The supposed rule is - if the font is = not installed, you cannot edit that area of text. =20 ---AH, HA. BETTER BEWARE. ONCE YOU UNEMBED THE FONT YOU ARE NO = LONGER WORKING WITH THE FONT YOU STARTED WITH. RATHER, YOU ARE NOW = SEEING A LOOKALIKE FONT CREATED WITH ADOBE'S MULTIPLE MASTER TECHNOLOGY. = BY UNEMBEDDING, YOU HAVE BASICALLY REMOVED THE FONT. IT MAKE LOOK MUCH = THE SAME, BUT I ASSURE YOU, IT IS NOT. ---TO SEE WHAT I MEAN, TRY CREATING A SIMPLE TEXT DOCUMENT WITH A = WEIRD LOOKING SERIF FONT. PRINT YOURSELF A COPY AND THEN CREATE A PDF = FILE. CHECK DOCUMENT INFO > FONTS TO MAKE SURE IT'S EMBEDDED. REMEMBER = WHAT IT SAYS UNDER "USED FONT". (THIS IS LIKE A MAGIC TRICK--REMEMBER = THE CARD YOU CHOSE AND PUT IT BACK IN THE DECK). ---THEN DO WHAT YOU JUST WERE TALKING ABOUT. UNEMBED THE FONT. MAKE = YOUR CHANGES AND PRINT ANOTHER COPY. CHECK DOCUMENT INFO > FONTS AGAIN. = WHAT DOES IT SAY FOR USED FONT? I BET IT SAYS SOMETHING LIKE "ADOBE = SERIF MM", DOESN'T IT? =20 I hate to sound confrontational, but how am I able to prove that = statement wrong with this particular document? And again, the ability = is nice to have but not necessary. I am more interested in the = inconsistency between supposed rule and proven reality. ---UNFORTUNATELY, YOUR INTENTIONS WERE GOOD IN TRYING THIS OUT. = HOWEVER, ADOBE'S INTENTIONS IN PROTECTING THEIR FONTS IS EVEN BETTER. ---THE RULE WAS, AND IS...WITHOUT THE FONTS RESIDING ON THE HOST = MACHINE, YOU CAN'T EDIT A PDF FILE FILE USING EMBEDDED FONTS. =20 Mike Abrahamson Liturgical Publications RICH ----------------------------------------------------------------=20 Rich Sprague PDF & Digital Printing Solutions (480) 860-0050 richsprague@inficad.com Check out my new website: http://www.inficad.com/~richsprague ----------------------------------------------------------------=20 ------=_NextPart_000_00AA_01BEB66B.0E5722A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: [PDF] Once again... font embedding
Aha!  Excellent detective work, good man.  = I=20 followed your suggestion and low and behold the fonts did change upon=20 editing.  I recognize the MM font names from previous attempts to = replicate=20 my earlier success.  It must be that the apparent success I had in = editing=20 text in those fonts was hidden beneath the appearance of the MM = set.  I=20 regret that my detective work was sub par.  Thanks for = straightening out a=20 subject that has baffled me for the longest time.  :)
 
Mike Abrahamson
Liturgical Publications
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Rich=20 Sprague
To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com
Sent: Monday, June 14, 1999 = 12:48=20 PM
Subject: Re: [PDF] Once = again... font=20 embedding

My apologies for revisiting such an exhausted topic, but I = wanted to update those interested on my prior success in editing = text in=20 non-installed fonts.

--IT IS A GOOD TOPIC WITH SOME REAL = ISSUES, MANY=20 WHICH ARE CONFUSING AND CONTRADICTORY, AT BEST.
 
I found = the=20 document I had created with about 20 different TrueType and Type 1 = fonts=20 (only 2 pages - list of CD titles).  This document was created = in Word=20 97 (PC) and I used PDFWriter 3.02 to create the PDF with the "embed = all=20 fonts" option turned on under the printer driver settings. =  Using=20 either Acrobat Exchange 3.02 or Acrobat 4 I am able to view and = print the=20 document with the original fonts on another machine that does not = have ANY=20 of the 20 or so fonts installed that are contained in the PDF file.=20  

However, I am ALSO able to use the Text TouchUp tool = in both=20 programs to edit any text I want in the document - again using the = same=20 embedded fonts that AREN'T installed on the second machine. =  The=20 message I get reads...
 
"Warning: This embedded font is = not=20 installed on your system.  To edit text in this font you must = unembed=20 the font.  Unembed the font now?"

I can say yes or no. =  If=20 I say yes then I can edit to my heart's content.  This flies in = the=20 face of what many people have told me is impossible to do with = Acrobat.=20  The supposed rule is - if the font is not installed, you = cannot edit=20 that area of text.  

---AH, HA. BETTER BEWARE. ONCE YOU = UNEMBED=20 THE FONT YOU ARE NO LONGER WORKING WITH THE FONT YOU STARTED WITH. = RATHER,=20 YOU ARE NOW SEEING A LOOKALIKE FONT CREATED WITH ADOBE'S MULTIPLE = MASTER=20 TECHNOLOGY. BY UNEMBEDDING, YOU HAVE BASICALLY REMOVED THE FONT. IT = MAKE=20 LOOK MUCH THE SAME, BUT I ASSURE YOU, IT IS NOT.

---TO SEE = WHAT I=20 MEAN, TRY CREATING A SIMPLE TEXT DOCUMENT WITH A WEIRD LOOKING SERIF = FONT.=20 PRINT YOURSELF A COPY AND THEN CREATE A PDF FILE. CHECK DOCUMENT = INFO >=20 FONTS TO MAKE SURE IT'S EMBEDDED. REMEMBER WHAT IT SAYS UNDER "USED = FONT".=20 (THIS IS LIKE A MAGIC TRICK--REMEMBER THE CARD YOU CHOSE AND PUT IT = BACK IN=20 THE DECK).

---THEN DO WHAT YOU JUST WERE TALKING ABOUT. = UNEMBED THE=20 FONT. MAKE YOUR CHANGES AND PRINT ANOTHER COPY. CHECK DOCUMENT INFO = >=20 FONTS AGAIN. WHAT DOES IT SAY FOR USED FONT? I BET IT SAYS SOMETHING = LIKE=20 "ADOBE SERIF MM", DOESN'T IT?
 
I hate to sound = confrontational,=20 but how am I able to prove that statement wrong with this particular = document?  And again, the ability is nice to have but not = necessary.=20  I am more interested in the inconsistency between supposed = rule and=20 proven reality.

---UNFORTUNATELY, YOUR INTENTIONS WERE GOOD = IN TRYING=20 THIS OUT. HOWEVER, ADOBE'S INTENTIONS IN PROTECTING THEIR FONTS IS = EVEN=20 BETTER.


---THE RULE WAS, AND IS...WITHOUT THE FONTS = RESIDING ON=20 THE HOST MACHINE, YOU CAN'T EDIT A PDF FILE FILE USING EMBEDDED=20 FONTS.

 
Mike Abrahamson
Liturgical=20 = Publications

RICH

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------=_NextPart_000_00AA_01BEB66B.0E5722A0-- ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 14-Jun-1999 19:33:04-GMT,2430;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA02373 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 13:32:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA15289; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 14:13:07 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 14 Jun 1999 14:11:09 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA15099; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 14:11:06 -0500 From: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?Carlos_Gonz=E1lez?=" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] extracting PDF-Links Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 21:11:08 +0200 Message-ID: <01beb699$a87d7b80$9461513e@none.servicom.es> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ I don't have an answer for you Laura, but your problem interest me too. If you find any info... would you share it? Thanks in advance. Carlos Gonzalez ************************************************************** La Oficina Sin Papel S.L. Carlos Gonzalez Marti Director General Cristóbal Bordiú, 63 28003 Madrid (Spain) Tel: + 34 915 344 348 Fax: + 34 915 531 508 e-mail: laoficinasinpapel@mad.servicom.es ************************************************************** -----Original Message----- >Hi List, > >We need a tool, which extracts the PDF-Link destinations of a given >PDF-File. > >example: >Doc A refers by PDF-Link to the documentes B,C and D >We need the information B,C and D > >Can someone help? > >Regards, > Laura Dietz _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 14-Jun-1999 21:22:28-GMT,2899;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA05563 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 15:22:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA25040; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 16:15:56 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 14 Jun 1999 16:14:08 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA24878; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 16:14:06 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990614171702.008683d0@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 17:17:02 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] Once again... font embedding In-Reply-To: <007801beb67d$51f301c0$466564c8@ntplx.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ I can say yes or no. If I say yes then I can edit to my heart's content. This flies in the face of what many people have told me is impossible to do with Acrobat. The supposed rule is - if the font is not installed, you cannot edit that area of text. I hate to sound confrontational, but how am I able to prove that statement wrong with this particular document? And again, the ability is nice to have but not necessary. I am more interested in the inconsistency between supposed rule and proven reality. Interesting question. I just tried to provoke this by creating a PDF with a fully embedded bizarro font, then removed the font from my system. Brought the PDF up in Exchange, and it's as you describe. Say Yes to the "Unembed the font" dialog and it's editable in the font (and this font was deliberately chosen so there'd be no question of font substitutions). However: if I save the PDF after editing, then re-open it, the font's gone and all I get is an error message and a bunch of dots on screen. Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 14-Jun-1999 21:58:27-GMT,3533;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA06610 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 15:58:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA27870; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 16:52:37 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 14 Jun 1999 16:51:25 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA27742; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 16:51:23 -0500 Message-Id: <199906142151.OAA17126@mail.inficad.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 14:51:20 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Once again... font embedding From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ >> I can say yes or no. If I say yes then I can edit to my heart's content. >> This flies in the face of what many people have told me is impossible to do >> with Acrobat. The supposed rule is - if the font is not installed, you >> cannot edit that area of text. I hate to sound confrontational, but how am >> I able to prove that statement wrong with this particular document? And >> again, the ability is nice to have but not necessary. I am more interested >> in the inconsistency between supposed rule and proven reality. > > > Interesting question. I just tried to provoke this by creating a PDF with > a fully embedded bizarro font, then removed the font from my system. > Brought the PDF up in Exchange, and it's as you describe. Say Yes to the > "Unembed the font" dialog and it's editable in the font (and this font was > deliberately chosen so there'd be no question of font substitutions). > > However: if I save the PDF after editing, then re-open it, the font's gone > and all I get is an error message and a bunch of dots on screen. > > Steve Rindsberg > President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau > http://www.rdpslides.com Steve: Someone, and it may have been Aandi, answered this question the other day. Did you create the PDF with Distiller? If my memory serves me correctly, the thread indicated that this would happen if the PDF was created with Distiller. But not if it was created with our friendly PDF Writer. Perhaps I'm going overboard -- splash -- but I really don't think Adobe wants PDFs edited unless one has the original fonts residing in their system. -- glug -- Rich ---------------------------------------------------------------- Rich Sprague PDF & Digital Printing Solutions (480) 860-0050 richsprague@inficad.com Check out my new website: http://www.inficad.com/~richsprague ---------------------------------------------------------------- _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 14-Jun-1999 22:47:14-GMT,2343;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA07961 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 16:45:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA29707; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 17:15:32 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 14 Jun 1999 17:14:10 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA29608; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 17:14:08 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19990614231752.007ab640@pop.online.de> X-Sender: 1025-56@pop.online.de X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 23:17:52 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Reinhard Jaehnig Subject: Re: [PDF] Problem with links to named destination Cc: DanielAri@Dionis.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ In case anybody of you is interested, here are my findings to my named destination problem. Thanks a lot, Dan, for pointing my in the right direction. 1. PDFMaker converts Winword hyperlinks to links to named destinations. 2. When Acrobat 3.0 compatibility is selected, the pdfmark created by PDFMaker defines the named destination using a string, like this (TARGET). The link works fine. 3. When Acrobat 2.1 compatibility is selected, the pdfmark created by PDFMaker defines the named destination using a name, like this /TARGET. This link does not work. NOTE: I had Acrobat 2.1 compatibility selected to avoid the catalog indexing error that occurs when PDFMaker created files contain small images. Reinhard _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 14-Jun-1999 22:48:35-GMT,2042;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA08080 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 16:48:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA30358; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 17:24:20 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 14 Jun 1999 17:23:05 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA30227; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 17:23:00 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990614182557.0089ea00@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 18:25:57 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] Once again... font embedding In-Reply-To: <199906142151.OAA17126@mail.inficad.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ >Steve: > >Someone, and it may have been Aandi, answered this question the other day. >Did you create the PDF with Distiller? > Yes. I'm firmly in favor of dancing around the limitations of GDI at every opportunity. Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 14-Jun-1999 23:18:06-GMT,2362;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA08878 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 17:18:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA00466; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 18:05:11 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 14 Jun 1999 18:03:56 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA00365; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 18:03:55 -0500 Message-Id: <199906142303.QAA34256@mail.inficad.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 16:03:52 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Once again... font embedding From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ >>Steve: >> >>Someone, and it may have been Aandi, answered this question the other day. >>Did you create the PDF with Distiller? >> > > Yes. I'm firmly in favor of dancing around the limitations of GDI at every > opportunity. > > Steve Rindsberg > President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau > http://www.rdpslides.com I tried to replicate this on the Mac, and I couldn't get it to do what you got on the PC. Must be a Windoze thing. Rich ---------------------------------------------------------------- Rich Sprague PDF & Digital Printing Solutions (480) 860-0050 richsprague@inficad.com Check out my new website: http://www.inficad.com/~richsprague ---------------------------------------------------------------- _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 15-Jun-1999 5:01:08-GMT,2464;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA16921 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 23:01:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA21474; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 23:43:08 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 14 Jun 1999 23:41:19 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA21333; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 23:41:18 -0500 Message-ID: <01BEB72C.F1E78AC0@jessie> From: "Jessie M. Ambrosio" To: "'acroabat@blueworld.com'" , "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] More PDF to RTF Converters Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 12:45:24 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id XAA21328 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ Hi All! My company is engaged in data conversion business and that some of our clients provide their documents in PDF format. We would like these PDFs converted to RTF (or any other file formats like MS Word/Wordperfect). Our conversion requirements are: - high accuracy level - preserves character and paragraph formatting - can convert multi-columns text - can handle tables and graphics (illustrations, line arts, etc.) - bulk conversion of PDFs (automated is a must) Are there other converters available besides Aerial, Gemini, Jade, Redwing and PDFFix? I'm on the process of evaluating these tools to know which one will work best for us before investing. Any help will be appreciated. Thanks in advance. Sincerely, Jessie Ambrosio SPI Technologies, Inc. http://www.spitech.com _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 15-Jun-1999 13:22:25-GMT,2774;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA27769 for ; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 07:22:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA17120; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 08:17:36 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 15 Jun 1999 08:16:25 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA16775; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 08:16:17 -0500 Message-ID: <37665325.1AF110C@avenza.com> Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 09:20:37 -0400 From: Ted Florence Organization: Avenza X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] searchable graphics in PDF References: <3162C3A36143D211AF1800104B6FEC93251EF9@THOR> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ You could try pdfPLUS. "Seiffert, Lea" wrote: > > The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM > _________________________________________________________ > > Does anyone know of a good way to make the graphics in a document searchable > once the document is converted to PDF? I am using FrameMaker as my source > application. I know I have seen documentation on a way to do it with hidden > white text, but I cannot find the instructions now that I need them. > > Thanks, > > Lea Seiffert > Infodata Systems, Inc. > _ > ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ > <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> > <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> > ___________________________________________________________ -- Ted Florence ted@avenza.com NOW SHIPPING -> MAPublisher 3.5 for Macromedia FreeHand/Windows Coming soon -> MAPublisher 3.5 for Adobe Illustrator 8 (Win & Mac) Avenza Software (905) 639-3330 http://www.avenza.com Developers of MAPublisher, MAPublisher-GPS & pdfPlus ***** Bridging the gap between your GIS and major graphics software ***** _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 15-Jun-1999 13:22:29-GMT,1892;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA27770 for ; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 07:22:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA16275; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 08:12:13 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 15 Jun 1999 08:07:54 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA15865; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 08:07:51 -0500 Message-ID: <3162C3A36143D211AF1800104B6FEC93251EF9@THOR> From: "Seiffert, Lea" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] searchable graphics in PDF Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 09:07:59 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ Does anyone know of a good way to make the graphics in a document searchable once the document is converted to PDF? I am using FrameMaker as my source application. I know I have seen documentation on a way to do it with hidden white text, but I cannot find the instructions now that I need them. Thanks, Lea Seiffert Infodata Systems, Inc. _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 15-Jun-1999 13:54:02-GMT,3081;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA28565 for ; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 07:53:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA19214; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 08:35:36 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 15 Jun 1999 08:34:17 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA19102; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 08:34:15 -0500 From: "Scott Hamlow" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] searchable graphics in PDF Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 06:33:38 -0700 Message-ID: <000301beb733$ad444460$45a2fecc@scotth.fourgen.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2232.26 In-Reply-To: <3162C3A36143D211AF1800104B6FEC93251EF9@THOR> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ I don't know if this is universal and there may be other caveats, but I'm preparing several engineering diagrams for PDF and the only way I could get them to be searchable is to save them as EPS from Visio 5. From there, you can either distill them directly or import them into Frame (maintaining the searchability). > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com [mailto:owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com]On > Behalf Of Seiffert, Lea > Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 1999 6:08 AM > To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' > Subject: [PDF] searchable graphics in PDF > > > > The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM > _________________________________________________________ > > Does anyone know of a good way to make the graphics in a document searchable > once the document is converted to PDF? I am using FrameMaker as my source > application. I know I have seen documentation on a way to do it with hidden > white text, but I cannot find the instructions now that I need them. > > Thanks, > > Lea Seiffert > Infodata Systems, Inc. > _ > ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ > <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> > <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> > ___________________________________________________________ > _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 15-Jun-1999 14:45:56-GMT,2062;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA29892 for ; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 08:45:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA25278; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 09:34:05 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 15 Jun 1999 09:32:24 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA25149; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 09:32:22 -0500 Message-Id: <4.1.19990615101957.00a33dc0@dionis.com> X-Sender: m2456601@mail.9netave.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 10:24:29 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Daniel-Ari Feinberg Subject: [PDF] extracting PDF-Links In-Reply-To: <199906151307.IAA15884@everglades.binc.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ Laura and Carlos, Ari's Link Checker has a menu option called "Report on external dependencies". When you have a PDF document open in Adobe Acrobat and select the menu, it will generate a new PDF with a text listing of all files and URLs referenced by the document. Each URL in the list is covered by a live link to that URL. You can view the list on screen or print it. http://www.dionis.com/tb/alcinfo.html Best Regards, Dan-Ari Feinberg Dionis _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 15-Jun-1999 15:26:22-GMT,2121;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA00965 for ; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 09:26:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA28600; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 10:14:08 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 15 Jun 1999 10:12:41 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA28468; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 10:12:40 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 11:11:17 -0400 Message-ID: <0005C142.C21292@westat.com> From: RAMGOLK1@westat.com (RAMGOLK1) Subject: [PDF] Update: Named Destinations in Acrobat 4 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 10:36:13 -0400 From: RAMGOLK1@westat.com (RAMGOLK1) Subject: [PDF] Named destinations in Acrobat 4 don't work Re-installed Netscape 4.5. Preferences/applications added to netscape configuration thru Acrobat 4 installation were replaced with version 3 settings, except for type 'Acrobat Catalog Index' for ext PDX - removed manually in preferences window. Processed PDF with Distiller 4 for 3.x compatability ...pointed to Viola! Reader 3 opens PDF in browser on page 3. Thanks for your valuable feedback...Kam _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 15-Jun-1999 15:36:17-GMT,2304;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA01257 for ; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 09:36:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA28993; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 10:17:12 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 15 Jun 1999 10:16:05 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA28807; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 10:16:03 -0500 Message-Id: <99Jun15.091020mdt.19715@stpeter.afotec.af.mil> From: "Diamond, Steven Mr HQ/HOH" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Illegal-Object: Syntax error in To: address found on stpeter.afotec.af.mil: To: "''" < > ^-expected word, illegal end of route address, missing end of address Subject: [PDF] savingX2 = smaller files?! Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 09:18:28 -0600 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ Hello! We're creating PDF's from scanned documents using Exchange 3.01 within Win95 (scan>capture>bookmark>save w/optimize). Everything works fine, but I've noticed something I can' find referenced in Adobe documentation. When I save a PDF the first time, it can be 15MB in size. When I save it a second time with no changes ("Save as" [existing file name]), it reduces down to 500KB! Zowie! How come? I've included the "Save as" double-saving technique into the work process I've given our folks doing the scanning, but I would kinda like to know why... TIA, Steven Diamond _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 15-Jun-1999 15:37:26-GMT,2495;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA01285 for ; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 09:37:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA29885; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 10:27:20 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 15 Jun 1999 10:26:05 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA29690; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 10:26:03 -0500 From: "David Holzman" To: "'RAMGOLK1'" , Subject: [PDF] RE: Update: Named Destinations in Acrobat 4 Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 11:24:51 -0400 Message-ID: <000101beb743$36b86aa0$0bc8c8c8@Lisa> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <0005C142.C21292@westat.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 X-Info: DTG Software Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ Basically you have confirmed what my users have observed/experienced, that the 4.0 Netscape Plug-In does not launch a PDF file to a named destination correctly while the 3.0 Plug-In works correctly. > -----Original Message----- > Subject: [PDF] Named destinations in Acrobat 4 don't work. > Re-installed Netscape 4.5. Preferences/applications added to netscape > configuration > thru Acrobat 4 installation were replaced with version 3 > settings, except for type 'Acrobat Catalog Index' for ext PDX - removed manually in > preferences window. > > Processed PDF with Distiller 4 for 3.x compatability > ...pointed to > Viola! Reader 3 opens PDF in browser on page 3. > _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 15-Jun-1999 16:01:41-GMT,2714;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA01928 for ; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 10:01:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA30836; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 10:36:58 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 15 Jun 1999 10:35:29 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA30699; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 10:35:28 -0500 Message-Id: <199906151535.IAA10773@mail.inficad.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 08:35:26 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] copying graphics in Acrobat 4.0 From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ > Page 287 of the Acrobat Guide (4.0) refers to a graphics select tool. I > can't find that tool on the toolbar - and I can't figure out any menu > combination that will allow me to copy the graphic to the clipboard. I can > copy text just fine from the same document. Can anyone help me figure out > what's wrong? > > thanks, > Jenny Hecker > Symix Systems, Inc. Sure, Jenny: The graphic selection tool is hidden in what you might call sub-windows. Adobe is using the same technique adopted in some of their other software like Photoshop and Illustrator to keep the toolbars small. You'll see the text tool, a cap "T" outlined. Click and drag over to the right and "presto", you'll see an arrow, which is the tool you're looking for. You can easily toggle back and forth between tools. This should take care of you for now. Rich ---------------------------------------------------------------- Rich Sprague PDF Solutions/Consulting (480) 860-0050 Print Management & Production richsprague@inficad.com ---------------------------------------------------------------- _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 15-Jun-1999 16:05:32-GMT,1842;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA02065 for ; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 10:05:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA29530; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 10:23:33 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 15 Jun 1999 10:22:23 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA29418; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 10:22:22 -0500 Message-ID: From: Jenny Hecker To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] copying graphics in Acrobat 4.0 Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 11:20:25 -0400 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ Page 287 of the Acrobat Guide (4.0) refers to a graphics select tool. I can't find that tool on the toolbar - and I can't figure out any menu combination that will allow me to copy the graphic to the clipboard. I can copy text just fine from the same document. Can anyone help me figure out what's wrong? thanks, Jenny Hecker Symix Systems, Inc. _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 15-Jun-1999 16:06:18-GMT,3390;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA02086 for ; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 10:06:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA00214; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 10:58:10 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 15 Jun 1999 10:56:54 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA32726; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 10:56:51 -0500 Message-Id: <199906151556.KAA32714@everglades.binc.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 08:49:47 +0000 Subject: Re: [PDF] Difficulty distilling a pdf from prn From: "Julia Brantuas" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Return-Path: julia@acquiredknowledge.com Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ Hi Gunnar, >>I don't know what the "*b0W *b0W *b6W" is referring to, but the "]" in >>PostScript is used to delineate the end of an array . You are right about ] denoting the end of the array, but not here...... Read between the []. There are 2 parts to a PS error the error name (what is the problem) and the offending command (where the ps bombed). This is just PostScript syntax for errors, alllll ps errors will have %%[ Error: ;OffendingCommand: ]%% The important and key information is after Error: What is the error? Is it undefined, or stackunderflow, or limitcheck, this is the name of the error and this is what will lead you to a solution. Undefined errors such as Henry's is signifying binary data is in this file and not being consumed by an operator such as image, therefore Distiller croaks. Distiller does not know what *b0W*b0W*b6W is, therefore the error name is undefined, dump the rest of the job, hence the rest of the message. secondly, following OffendingCommand: Is what the problem is, in this case, *b0W*b0W*b6W, this is junk, data, binary data probably inserted for an HP printer which might know what this binary stuff means and maybe not. Typically, a ps operator consumes data such as what Henry is seeing to build an image or font, this data can not be outright in a ps file. The job fails. Use Distiller as your target printer. Hope things are well. --Julia >> %%[ Error: undefined; OffendingCommand: *b0W*b0W*b6W ]%% >> %%[ Flushing: rest of job (to end-of-file) will be ignored ]%% >> %%[ Warning: PostScript error. No PDF file produced. ] %% >> >> How can I get this output into an acrobat file? _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 15-Jun-1999 16:12:52-GMT,2583;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA02288 for ; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 10:12:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA32061; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 10:48:15 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 15 Jun 1999 10:46:56 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA31848; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 10:46:55 -0500 Message-ID: <37663DDA.3E3@archangel.net> Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 11:49:48 +0000 From: Shane Steinman Organization: ArchAngel Media Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] savingX2 = smaller files?! References: <99Jun15.091020mdt.19715@stpeter.afotec.af.mil> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ Diamond, Steven Mr HQ/HOH wrote: > We're creating PDF's from scanned documents using Exchange 3.01 within Win95 > (scan>capture>bookmark>save w/optimize). Everything works fine, but I've > noticed something I can' find referenced in Adobe documentation. > When I save a PDF the first time, it can be 15MB in size. When I save it a > second time with no changes ("Save as" [existing file name]), it reduces > down to 500KB! Zowie! Hi Steven, Sounds like the "optimize" isn't working on the first pass. Test your results by turning off the "save w/optimize" option and capture the same page again. I bet the file sizes are the same - or extremely similar. Shane -- Shane Steinman Project Head, dMACS Initiative Digital Magazine Advertising Canadian Specifications c/o ArchAngel Media Inc. 15 Kirkland Court, Richmond Hill, ON, CANADA L4C 9H4 Tel/Fax: (416) 410-3355 E-mail: shane@dMACS.org Website: www.dMACS.org _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 15-Jun-1999 16:14:24-GMT,2866;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA02338 for ; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 10:14:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA00208; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 10:58:07 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 15 Jun 1999 10:56:54 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA32724; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 10:56:51 -0500 Message-Id: <199906151556.KAA32713@everglades.binc.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 08:50:44 +0000 Subject: Re: [PDF] Difficulty distilling a pdf from prn From: "Julia Brantuas" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Return-Path: julia@acquiredknowledge.com Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ Try Distiller Assistant and see if it works Or, You should be able to use Acrobat Distiller and print a prn, just like the HP device. Printing, using the Hp causes some extra info(non PS) related to HP printers to be in the ps. Distiller 3.0 will not understand this. Check control panels-> printers-> Acrobat Distiller and set up the ps properties and then print to file using Acrobat Distiller, then go through Distiller. In Acrobat 4.0 you can print right to Acrobat Distiller printer which will cause 2 things to happen. Generate the PS and send it through Distiller to produce your pdf. Hope this helps, --Julia >> I have a document in Oracle Designer 2000 that I want to make into a pdf. >> I tell the application to print to file and select the default printer HP >> DesignJet 755CM. When I pick up this prn with Acrobat Distiller 3.0, I get >> the following output: >> >> %%[ Error: undefined; OffendingCommand: *b0W*b0W*b6W ]%% >> %%[ Flushing: rest of job (to end-of-file) will be ignored ]%% >> %%[ Warning: PostScript error. No PDF file produced. ] %% >> >> How can I get this output into an acrobat file? >> >> Thanks >> >> Henry Meydring > _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 15-Jun-1999 16:30:11-GMT,2351;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA02801 for ; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 10:30:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA02052; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 11:18:22 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 15 Jun 1999 11:16:55 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA01831; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 11:16:53 -0500 Message-ID: <37667D20.5955@wt.net> Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 11:19:44 -0500 From: Rick Bishop Organization: PRP Media X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Re: Paper Size References: <199906151307.IAA15884@everglades.binc.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ Mohn: Try setting the pdfwriter custom page size to your dimensions, putting a shortcut on your desktop, drag file to shortcut to distill. Just tried it on my NT4 system. Worked fine. When the resulting 8.3x6.7 page is printed to a HP5MP it centers the PDF in the letter size page in landscape fashion. Is this what you want? Rick Bishop Houston ML Mohn wrote:--- I'm trying to use Distiller 4 with the Adobe 4.3 printer driver, Win98, to distill a Microsoft Word 97 document. My problem is that the document measures 6.7 x 8.3 inches. I need it to distill to either its current size, or as an 8-1/2 x 11. The document distills perfectly, top-align-centered on an 8-1/2 x 11 using Distiller 3.2. Using Distiller 4, it distills to the wrong orientation (8.3 x 6.7 page size). _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 15-Jun-1999 17:26:26-GMT,3444;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA04625 for ; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 11:26:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA06764; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 12:11:22 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 15 Jun 1999 12:09:35 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA06636; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 12:09:33 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990615131232.00887100@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 13:12:32 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: [PDF] PDFMark transitions and the like Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ We're getting started on a fairly large (for us) PDF project for a client. The Boss has just declared that there should be the equivalent of a splash screen. He wants their logo to come up first, hold for n seconds. After that, it goes away and is replaced by the normal "home" screen for the PDF collection. I've gotten various parts of this to work, but can't seem to jiggle the bits together into a coherent whole that behaves as he wants. For example: SPLASH.PDF can be set to open in full screen, no menus, no toolbars. Exchange nosedives into the dirt if I set a page close action on a one-page PDF, so I made SPLASH a two pager, second page blank, page two open action set to Open File. That opens the main PDF, which we'll call TEST.PDF for now because that's what I'm calling it for now. However, when TEST opens, it seems to inherit the FullScreen and no menus/toolbars settings from SPLASH, which isn't necessarily what we want to have happen. And since it opens fullscreen, it goes right into slideshow mode using whatever transitions and advance settings have been set as default in Reader/Exchange. We specifically *don't* want that to happen. I'm after a way of either setting things up so TEST opens using the settings I've saved for it, OR getting SPLASH and TEST combined into one PDF that would: Open full screen on page 1 Pause for n seconds Advance automatically to page 2 Then cease any automatic advances and let the user run the show from there -- in that situation, it's ok by me if there are no menus/toolbars since I'll provide any needed navigation features. Any/all suggestions greedily and gratefully accepted. Thanks, folks. Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 15-Jun-1999 18:49:59-GMT,3793;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA07361 for ; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 12:49:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA14283; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 13:36:13 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 15 Jun 1999 13:34:00 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA13899; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 13:33:58 -0500 From: "George Johnson" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] PDFMark transitions and the like Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 11:34:46 -0700 Message-ID: <000001beb75d$be405040$04e78e8c@geo_ws1.u.washington.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19990615131232.00887100@pop.iglou.com> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ > We're getting started on a fairly large (for us) PDF project for a client. > The Boss has just declared that there should be the equivalent of a splash > screen. He wants their logo to come up first, hold for n seconds. After > that, it goes away and is replaced by the normal "home" screen for the PDF > collection. > > I've gotten various parts of this to work, but can't seem to jiggle the > bits together into a coherent whole that behaves as he wants. > > For example: SPLASH.PDF can be set to open in full screen, no menus, no > toolbars. Exchange nosedives into the dirt if I set a page close > action on > a one-page PDF, so I made SPLASH a two pager, second page blank, page two > open action set to Open File. That opens the main PDF, which we'll call > TEST.PDF for now because that's what I'm calling it for now. > > However, when TEST opens, it seems to inherit the FullScreen and no > menus/toolbars settings from SPLASH, which isn't necessarily what we want > to have happen. And since it opens fullscreen, it goes right into > slideshow mode using whatever transitions and advance settings have been > set as default in Reader/Exchange. We specifically *don't* want that to > happen. > > I'm after a way of either setting things up so TEST opens using the > settings I've saved for it, OR getting SPLASH and TEST combined into one > PDF that would: > > Open full screen on page 1 > Pause for n seconds > Advance automatically to page 2 > Then cease any automatic advances and let the user run the show from there > -- in that situation, it's ok by me if there are no menus/toolbars since > I'll provide any needed navigation features. > Try this. Create a document JavaScript function: function wait(seconds) { var start_time = new Date(); var curr_time var a = false while(a==false){ curr_time = new Date(); if(((curr_time.valueOf() - start_time.valueOf())/1000) > seconds){ a = true; } } } Then, in a page open JavaScript: wait(5) //Display page for 5 seconds this.pageNum++; _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 15-Jun-1999 20:06:57-GMT,5314;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA09668 for ; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 14:06:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA21057; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 14:54:13 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 15 Jun 1999 14:52:33 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA20937; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 14:52:32 -0500 Date: 15 Jun 99 14:56:38 +0000 From: "Norm Leonard" Subject: [PDF] JavaScript To: pdf X-Mailer: QuickMail Pro 1.5 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-Ascii" Message-Id: <19990615145220.1609afc0.in@smtp.sevenww.com> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ Hello folks, I really just want to say HEY to George Johnson. Thank you very much for taking the time and offering JavaScript code to the needy. I don't know much about George Johnson, but I have started a folder in my QuickMail program called "George Johnson" where as I save all the little tidbits that you send out from time to time. I think I speak for a small group of people when I say, THANK YOU!! I have been figuring out all this crap on my own so far(nobody to ask here at work) and the "wait function" that you posted solves a problem that I have been working on for some time now. I have seen various versions that might just work in the Netscape environment, but not in Acrobat. By applying this to other scenarios, you can produce quite the visual effects. Instead of using the "NEXT PAGE" call, you can hide or show graphics in a timed sequence. Using it with a "Warning" window, you could have a warning pop up if the page has been inactive for a particular amount of time. This would be great in AcroGames. By placing this call at several "set page open" in a row while a sound clip is playing, it is very possible to more acuratly control the timing of a presentation with the sound that is playing along with it! I can probably go on for hours on the many uses that this function could work in. Thank you again George, and I very much look forward to seeing future posts from you regarding Javascript and Acrobat. Norman J. Leonard Technical Solutions Developer Seven Worldwide, Inc. 233 N. Michigan Avenue Chicago, IL 60601-5516 Tel: 312-616-8326 nleonard@sevenww.com > >Try this. Create a document JavaScript function: > >function wait(seconds) >{ > >var start_time = new Date(); >var curr_time >var a = false > >while(a==false){ > curr_time = new Date(); > if(((curr_time.valueOf() - start_time.valueOf())/1000) > seconds){ > a = true; > } >} > >} > >Then, in a page open JavaScript: > >wait(5) //Display page for 5 seconds > >this.pageNum++; > >_ >____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ ><- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> > <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> >___________________________________________________________ > >RFC822 header >----------------------------------- >a >From owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Tue Jun 15 13:39:20 1999 >Received: by smtp.sevenww.com from localhost > (router,QMProSrv V2.6); Tue, 15 Jun 1999 13:39:20 -0500 >Received: by smtp.sevenww.com from everglades.binc.net > (208.155.48.8::mail daemon; unverified,QMProSrv V2.6); Tue, 15 Jun 1999 >13:39:20 -0500 >Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) > by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA14214; > Tue, 15 Jun 1999 13:35:46 -0500 >Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 15 Jun 1999 >13:34:00 -0500 >Received: (from majordom@localhost) > by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA13899; > Tue, 15 Jun 1999 13:33:58 -0500 >From: "George Johnson" >To: >Subject: RE: [PDF] PDFMark transitions and the like >Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 11:34:46 -0700 >Message-ID: <000001beb75d$be405040$04e78e8c@geo_ws1.u.washington.edu> >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >X-Priority: 3 (Normal) >X-MSMail-Priority: Normal >X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 >X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 >Importance: Normal >In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19990615131232.00887100@pop.iglou.com> >Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com >Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com >X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html >X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html >X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com > _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 15-Jun-1999 21:41:09-GMT,4039;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA12631 for ; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 15:41:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA00300; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 16:22:21 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 15 Jun 1999 16:20:28 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA00088; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 16:20:26 -0500 X-Sender: prodok@pop.eunet.ch Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19990615131232.00887100@pop.iglou.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 23:15:10 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Max Wyss Subject: Re: [PDF] PDFMark transitions and the like Cc: Steve Rindsberg Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ Steve, You can set the display options in the Page Open actions, and not in the Document Open actions. The approach of a two-pager is actually the one to use. For the first page, you set the Full Screen view, in the ones for the second page, you set it to the normal settings. To automatically switch from page 1 to page 2, you could use a JavaScript. I'd have to dig around in my toolbox for the exact script. Hope, this can help. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch WWW: http://www.prodok.ch/prodok [ Bridging the Knowledge Gap ] ______________________ >We're getting started on a fairly large (for us) PDF project for a client. >The Boss has just declared that there should be the equivalent of a splash >screen. He wants their logo to come up first, hold for n seconds. After >that, it goes away and is replaced by the normal "home" screen for the PDF >collection. > >I've gotten various parts of this to work, but can't seem to jiggle the >bits together into a coherent whole that behaves as he wants. > >For example: SPLASH.PDF can be set to open in full screen, no menus, no >toolbars. Exchange nosedives into the dirt if I set a page close action on >a one-page PDF, so I made SPLASH a two pager, second page blank, page two >open action set to Open File. That opens the main PDF, which we'll call >TEST.PDF for now because that's what I'm calling it for now. > >However, when TEST opens, it seems to inherit the FullScreen and no >menus/toolbars settings from SPLASH, which isn't necessarily what we want >to have happen. And since it opens fullscreen, it goes right into >slideshow mode using whatever transitions and advance settings have been >set as default in Reader/Exchange. We specifically *don't* want that to >happen. > >I'm after a way of either setting things up so TEST opens using the >settings I've saved for it, OR getting SPLASH and TEST combined into one >PDF that would: > >Open full screen on page 1 >Pause for n seconds >Advance automatically to page 2 >Then cease any automatic advances and let the user run the show from there >-- in that situation, it's ok by me if there are no menus/toolbars since >I'll provide any needed navigation features. > >Any/all suggestions greedily and gratefully accepted. Thanks, folks. > >Steve Rindsberg _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 16-Jun-1999 4:22:36-GMT,2932;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA22650 for ; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 22:22:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA27799; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 23:10:33 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 15 Jun 1999 23:07:48 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA27665; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 23:07:46 -0500 Message-ID: <376722A1.6E66FC01@dconstructs.com> Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 00:05:53 -0400 From: "Robert E. Moran" Organization: Digital Constructs Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "pdf@lists.pdfzone.com" Subject: [PDF] Sysbase & Acrobat Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------7B8D39814F73A5F74AC9B2E0" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------7B8D39814F73A5F74AC9B2E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Does anyone know about any software that can populate the General Info Window with CSV data. I need to be able to populate this with output from a Sybase environment. Any help on this would be most apprecitated. TIA Bob Moran -- Robert E. Moran Digital Constructs Inc. 759 North Park Avenue Redding, CT 06896 Tel 203-452-1116 203-452-8085 Fax: 203-452-0416 E-Mail remoran@dconstructs.com http://www.dconstructs.com "Confusion is a misapprehension of a higher order" - Henry Miller --------------7B8D39814F73A5F74AC9B2E0 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="remoran.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Robert E. Moran Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="remoran.vcf" begin:vcard n:Moran;Robert tel;fax:203-452-0416 tel;home:203-452-1116 tel;work:203-452-1116 x-mozilla-html:TRUE url:http://www.dconstructs.com org:Digital Constructs Inc. adr:;;759 North Park Avenue;Redding;CT;06896;USA version:2.1 email;internet:remoran@dconstructs.com title:President note:"Confusion is a misapprension of a higher order" - Henry Miller fn:Robert E. Moran end:vcard --------------7B8D39814F73A5F74AC9B2E0-- _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 16-Jun-1999 4:30:11-GMT,2344;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA22833 for ; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 22:30:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA28924; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 23:26:34 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 15 Jun 1999 23:25:10 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA28819; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 23:25:08 -0500 Message-ID: <524A333ECC0AD3119FC300805F851389534CDF@perm02.woodside.com.au> From: "Wraight, David D." To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Sysbase & Acrobat Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 12:27:11 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ Bob, This is possible if you use Acrobat Exchange and IAC (Inter Application Communication), if your not a programmer - but you know where to get your hands on one then have a look at http://www.codecuts.com under the IAC section. If you want more info then download the Technotes 5164 and 5165 from Adobe these are the reference documents for IAC. I have written something similar (in VBA), but it takes the data from an Excel spreadsheet - same principal though. Let me know if you need any more info. Dave ....... --------------------------- > Does anyone know about any software that can populate the General Info > Window with CSV data. I need to be able to populate this with output > from a Sybase environment. Any help on this would be most apprecitated. > TIA > > Bob Moran > _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 16-Jun-1999 5:47:05-GMT,2621;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA24613 for ; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 23:47:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA31757; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 00:17:21 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 16 Jun 1999 00:15:46 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA31559; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 00:15:45 -0500 Message-Id: From: "Callaway, Rebecca" To: "'Post to PDF listserve'" Subject: [PDF] Anyone know about this software... Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 17:07:01 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.996.62 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ Hi - We have a need to convert a proprietary viewing system format to Acrobat. We can get the proprietary format to HPGL, and have found a CHEAP piece of software to take the HPGL to PDF. It's from a company called Tailor Made Software, Ltd, and the product is called Hp2Design Pro. It retails for about $400.00. Here's more from the web site: (http://www.tailormade.com/hp2des.htm) Priced at $400, Hp2Design Pro converts to AutoCAD DWG; DXF AutoDesk Drawing Web Format (DWF or WHIP!); Computer Graphics Metafile (CGM) and InterCAP's ActiveCGM profile; Binary DXF; DXB; Adobe Postscript; EPS; Adobe Illustrator; IGES; CADKEY; WordPerfect Graphics; and Mosaic Simple Vector Format (SVF). What confuses me is this: I thought to get TIFF to PDF you had to use the Dongle concept (of paying for batches of conversions). Yet this software seems to impose no limit, and is $400.00? Why would be people buy Capture and Dongles, if there are products for conversion to PDF that charge only once? rebecca _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 16-Jun-1999 6:04:44-GMT,2471;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA25263 for ; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 00:04:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA31957; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 00:20:48 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 16 Jun 1999 00:19:39 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA31886; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 00:19:34 -0500 Message-Id: From: "Callaway, Rebecca" To: "'Post to PDF listserve'" Subject: [PDF] Tiff to PDF Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 15:21:13 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.996.62 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ Hi PDF'ers - Got a question about taking TIFF to PDF. Not so much the method or the tool, but the result once it is in reader. Tool set is Wintel, Acrobat 3, Capture 2 We have some TIFF files (I think G4 tiff) of our design drawings in D and E size. Capture 2 cannot handle these, as the size (dimension) limit is 27" by 27", and these drawings go out beyond 33". However, we have found that Exchange's import function will successfully bring these files into a PDF. However, when you open the PDF created this way, and change the view on the file, the repaint of the screen is very slow. Is this because it is a TIFF files, and all TIFF files brought to PDF would behave this way? Is it because of the real dimensions of the drawing and the fact that the screen has to redraw such a big image? Is there something inherent in the kind of TIFF file used that creates a "slow drawing" PDF? Anyone?? Thx - Rebecca _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 16-Jun-1999 6:11:06-GMT,1871;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA25442 for ; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 00:11:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA01342; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 01:00:49 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 16 Jun 1999 00:59:31 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA01244; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 00:59:28 -0500 Message-ID: <37673DA5.4F6AC21A@excosoft.se> Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 08:01:09 +0200 From: Rikard Herlitz X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] PDF Library...comments? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ I'm thinking about sending in the licensing form for the PDFLibrary... Is'nt it so that the PDFLib is included in the Acrobat API? What do you get when you license it? Only permission to use it? Do you get any extra files that's needed to run the pdflib? Has anyone tried the library? Is it hard to program? Thanks /Rikard _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 16-Jun-1999 6:14:49-GMT,2471;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA25553 for ; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 00:14:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA31758; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 00:17:21 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 16 Jun 1999 00:15:53 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA31587; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 00:15:51 -0500 Message-Id: From: "Callaway, Rebecca" To: "'Post to PDF listserve'" Subject: [PDF] Tif to PDF Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 15:20:48 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.996.62 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ Hi PDF'ers - Got a question about taking TIFF to PDF. Not so much the method or the tool, but the result once it is in reader. Tool set is Wintel, Acrobat 3, Capture 2 We have some TIFF files (I think G4 tiff) of our design drawings in D and E size. Capture 2 cannot handle these, as the size (dimension) limit is 27" by 27", and these drawings go out beyond 33". However, we have found that Exchange's import function will successfully bring these files into a PDF. However, when you open the PDF created this way, and change the view on the file, the repaint of the screen is very slow. Is this because it is a TIFF files, and all TIFF files brought to PDF would behave this way? Is it because of the real dimensions of the drawing and the fact that the screen has to redraw such a big image? Is there something inherent in the kind of TIFF file used that creates a "slow drawing" PDF? Anyone?? Thx - Rebecca _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 16-Jun-1999 7:32:33-GMT,2589;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA27402 for ; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 01:32:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA04892; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 02:08:31 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 16 Jun 1999 02:06:21 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA04703; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 02:06:20 -0500 From: KhimSoo_Loh@notes.seagate.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: SEAGATE@INTERNET To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <88256792.002716CC.00@sv-gw1.stsv.seagate.com> Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 13:49:47 +0800 Subject: [PDF] Blank Screen When Linking to a PDF in Netscape Communicator Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id CAA04699 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ Hi, I tried to view some PDF files on our internal website. The Adobe Acrobat viewer doesn't display the PDF files. The PDF pages are blank inside the web browser window. The version of my Netcape Communicator is 4.6 and Acrobat reader is 3.02. As advised by Adobe support database, I upgrade the Acrobat to version 4.0 but it still displayed blank page. I have tried a few solutions advised by Adobe at: http://www.adobe.com/supportservice/custsupport/SOLUTIONS/78c6.htm http://www.adobe.com/supportservice/custsupport/SOLUTIONS/3d76.htm I have tried to open a PDF file from Adobe's web site and the browser opened the PDF files correctly as a plug-in. But to open the PDF files on our internal website, I need to configure Communicator to use Acrobat as a Helper Application instead of plug-in. Is the our PDF files have problems? Anyone have any comments or suggestions? thanks & regards, ksloh Ü _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 16-Jun-1999 8:37:28-GMT,2317;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA28899 for ; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 02:37:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA09121; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 03:29:24 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 16 Jun 1999 03:28:19 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA09050; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 03:28:19 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Anyone know about this software... Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 09:28:10 +0100 Message-ID: <000201beb7d2$2c15e480$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ > > What confuses me is this: I thought to get TIFF to PDF you had to use > the Dongle concept (of paying for batches of conversions). Yet this > software seems to impose no limit, and is $400.00? > > Why would be people buy Capture and Dongles, if there are products for > conversion to PDF that charge only once? There is a huge difference between what this does and what Capture does: OCR. If you don't want OCR, Capture is an over-the-top solution. And in your case, HPGL, I suspect OCR is neither possible nor desirable. Aandi _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 16-Jun-1999 8:37:30-GMT,2475;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA28902 for ; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 02:37:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA08808; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 03:24:26 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 16 Jun 1999 03:22:34 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA08713; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 03:22:32 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] PDF Library...comments? Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 09:22:21 +0100 Message-ID: <000101beb7d1$5cc1b880$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <37673DA5.4F6AC21A@excosoft.se> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ > I'm thinking about sending in the licensing form for the PDFLibrary... > Is'nt it so that the PDFLib is included in the Acrobat API? > What do you get when you license it? Only permission to use it? Do you > get any extra files that's needed to run the pdflib? > > Has anyone tried the library? Is it hard to program? You get permission to use it, and the library files themselves for linking it. It is not easy to license it these days, Adobe look at each case selectively, including the proposed revenue, and make a per-case judgement. The library is no harder (nor easier) to program than plug-ins. The key difference is that your application will be free-standing, rather than within Acrobat, and won't display PDFs at all. Aandi _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 16-Jun-1999 8:37:56-GMT,2518;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA28919 for ; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 02:37:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA09330; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 03:32:04 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 16 Jun 1999 03:30:59 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA09226; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 03:30:58 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Tiff to PDF Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 09:30:49 +0100 Message-ID: <000301beb7d2$8adce4a0$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ > Is this because it is a TIFF files, and all TIFF files brought to PDF > would behave this way? Is it because of the real dimensions of the > drawing and the fact that the screen has to redraw such a big > image? Is > there something inherent in the kind of TIFF file used that creates a > "slow drawing" PDF? You need to fully understand the difference between vector and bitmap. Do you? A scanned bitmap of a 30" original is HUGE. So huge, the PDF may be viable for archiving but not for screen display. CAPTURE - or the Capture plug-in in Exchange - is designed for text, not drawings, but might work. It's worth a try. Did your drawings not originate in a CAD package? If so the secret is not to scan them but convert from the vector original. Aandi _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 16-Jun-1999 10:32:30-GMT,2399;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA01398 for ; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 04:32:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA13958; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 05:03:35 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 16 Jun 1999 05:01:26 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA13816; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 05:01:25 -0500 Message-ID: <3767728D.8344FB14@wanadoo.fr> Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 11:46:53 +0200 From: Michel Lausseur X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [fr] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: fr MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Catalogue Index limitations ? References: <199906072158.RAA18164@marlo.eagle.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ For searching large amounts of PDF files (and other file formats), locally or trough Web : - VERITY Search 97 - PCDOCS DOCSFulcrum - EXCALIBUR Retrievalware - OPEN TEXT Livelink These products may be expensive, but I guess you don't expect to manage millions of pages for free ... Michel Lausseur Aalto Consultant Chris Calbury a écrit : > The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM > _____________________________________________________ > > Dear Listees: > > I have received a request to digitize 850,000 files, comprised of 3.1 > million pages, and and an estimated volume of 150 GB. We will be > using Catalogue to index and Reader with Search Plugin to search the > document info fields to retrieve any record required within the volume. _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 16-Jun-1999 12:06:23-GMT,2095;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA03385 for ; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 06:06:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA19530; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 06:52:03 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 16 Jun 1999 06:49:57 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA19377; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 06:49:56 -0500 Message-ID: <10CBE6ABA412D3118F7900C04F894FE602681D@JRRFB02> From: Eliahu Ben-Reuven To: "'PDF Zone'" Subject: [PDF] converting multiple Word 97 files to PDF Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 14:51:27 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ Hi, How do you convert multiple Word files into one PDF file? More specifically, if I have a book written in Word 97 (including a table of contents and chapters saved as separate Word files), what is the best way to convert these Word files into one PDF file? Will all the internal links still work? (I'm currently using the PDF Maker macro to convert Word to PDF.) Thanks in advance! Eliahu Eliahu Ben-Reuven Documentation Team Aspect Software Ltd. E-mail: ereuven@aspectsoft.com Tel: 02-588-8500 ext. 322 Fax: 02-587-1151 _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 16-Jun-1999 13:25:44-GMT,1779;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA05253 for ; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 07:25:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA26129; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 08:19:12 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 16 Jun 1999 08:15:52 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA25774; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 08:15:51 -0500 Message-ID: <507A405B779ED211B0FA00105A2876330657D5@COMMS_SERVER> From: MartinB To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Automatic forwarding of PDF's as e-mail Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 14:13:16 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ Has anybody any ideas on whether it is possible to automatically forward completed interactive PDF's as e-mail? In other words, could the PDF be forwarded in response to a button press?? Thanks for any tips or suggestions, Martin Brown _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 16-Jun-1999 13:58:37-GMT,4226;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA06085 for ; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 07:58:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA29219; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 08:52:55 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 16 Jun 1999 08:50:11 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA28916; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 08:50:01 -0500 Message-ID: <001f01beb7ff$25b03140$8d74d99b@aatd.eustis.army.mil> From: "Paul Redden" To: References: Subject: Re: [PDF] Anyone know about this software... Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 09:45:33 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ I have had good experience with another product called Image Alchemy by Hand Made Software (http://www.handmadesw.com) I believe their basic 16 bit windows version is $69 and will convert to PDF from over 90 formats. their Unix version and 32 bit versions retail for $200 and their PS versions which will convert from PS and PDF files as well as to is $400. This is a command line driven program which makes it fast and easy to run on multiple files in batch mode. The conversion to PDF does not include OCR which is why the cost is so much lower than Acrobat Capture. You can also import TIFF images directly into PDF without OCR using Acrobat but you are limited to 50 files at a time. Paul Redden http://www.digital-antiquities.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Callaway, Rebecca To: 'Post to PDF listserve' Sent: Thursday, June 10, 1999 8:07 PM Subject: [PDF] Anyone know about this software... > > The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM > _________________________________________________________ > > Hi - > > We have a need to convert a proprietary viewing system format to > Acrobat. We can get the proprietary format to HPGL, and have found a > CHEAP piece of software to take the HPGL to PDF. It's from a company > called Tailor Made Software, Ltd, and the product is called Hp2Design > Pro. It retails for about $400.00. Here's more from the web site: > (http://www.tailormade.com/hp2des.htm) > > Priced at $400, Hp2Design Pro converts to AutoCAD DWG; DXF AutoDesk > Drawing Web Format (DWF or > WHIP!); Computer Graphics Metafile (CGM) and > InterCAP's ActiveCGM profile; Binary DXF; DXB; Adobe > Postscript; EPS; Adobe Illustrator; IGES; CADKEY; > WordPerfect Graphics; and Mosaic Simple Vector Format (SVF). > > What confuses me is this: I thought to get TIFF to PDF you had to use > the Dongle concept (of paying for batches of conversions). Yet this > software seems to impose no limit, and is $400.00? > > Why would be people buy Capture and Dongles, if there are products for > conversion to PDF that charge only once? > > rebecca > > > > > _ > ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ > <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> > <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> > ___________________________________________________________ > _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 16-Jun-1999 13:58:45-GMT,4092;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA06092 for ; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 07:58:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA29400; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 08:54:24 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 16 Jun 1999 08:53:19 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA29279; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 08:53:12 -0500 Message-ID: <3767ABD5.5F36688C@dconstructs.com> Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 09:51:17 -0400 From: "Robert E. Moran" Organization: Digital Constructs Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Sysbase & Acrobat References: <524A333ECC0AD3119FC300805F851389534CDF@perm02.woodside.com.au> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------8430718C64F03336CEC7BE03" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------8430718C64F03336CEC7BE03 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks for the information. I will definitely do what you recommend. Bob "Wraight, David D." wrote: > The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM > _________________________________________________________ > > Bob, > > This is possible if you use Acrobat Exchange and IAC (Inter Application > Communication), if your not a programmer - but you know where to get your > hands on one then have a look at http://www.codecuts.com under the IAC > section. > > If you want more info then download the Technotes 5164 and 5165 from Adobe > these are the reference documents for IAC. > > I have written something similar (in VBA), but it takes the data from an > Excel spreadsheet - same principal though. > > Let me know if you need any more info. > > Dave ....... > --------------------------- > > Does anyone know about any software that can populate the General Info > > Window with CSV data. I need to be able to populate this with output > > from a Sybase environment. Any help on this would be most apprecitated. > > TIA > > > > Bob Moran > > > _ > ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ > <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> > <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> > ___________________________________________________________ -- Robert E. Moran Digital Constructs Inc. 759 North Park Avenue Redding, CT 06896 Tel 203-452-1116 203-452-8085 Fax: 203-452-0416 E-Mail remoran@dconstructs.com http://www.dconstructs.com "Confusion is a misapprehension of a higher order" - Henry Miller --------------8430718C64F03336CEC7BE03 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="remoran.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Robert E. 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Moran end:vcard --------------8430718C64F03336CEC7BE03-- _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 16-Jun-1999 13:58:59-GMT,2977;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA06108 for ; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 07:58:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA29643; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 08:55:42 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 16 Jun 1999 08:54:33 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA29426; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 08:54:32 -0500 Message-ID: <01BEB7DE.18F5B090.David_Tamburello@mazer.com> From: Dave Tamburello To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Automatic forwarding of PDF's as e-mail Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 09:53:32 -0400 Organization: Mazer Corporation X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ 4.0's JavaScript capabilities allow you to send the form (mailDoc) or just the data (mailForm). Unfortunately it is Windows only and requires a MAPI enabled mail program. If you're still interested, check out the 4.0 JavaScript Object Specification, tech note 5186. If you have Acrobat 4, you can access it from the Help menu. Relevant pages are 26 and 27. David M.Tamburello Training Specialist Mazer e-Publishing 2436 Gaynor Ave. NW Grand Rapids, MI 49544-1830 (616) 784-8963 Ask me about Acrobat 4.0 training! -----Original Message----- From: MartinB [SMTP:MartinB@sfwindows.co.uk] Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 1999 9:13 AM To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' Subject: [PDF] Automatic forwarding of PDF's as e-mail The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ Has anybody any ideas on whether it is possible to automatically forward completed interactive PDF's as e-mail? In other words, could the PDF be forwarded in response to a button press?? Thanks for any tips or suggestions, Martin Brown _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 16-Jun-1999 13:59:53-GMT,4498;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA06146 for ; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 07:59:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA29864; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 08:57:01 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 16 Jun 1999 08:55:52 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA29664; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 08:55:51 -0500 Message-ID: <003f01beb7ff$89e544c0$466564c8@ntplx.net> From: "Michael Abrahamson" To: References: <199906142151.OAA17126@mail.inficad.com> Subject: Re: [PDF] Once again... font embedding Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 09:52:56 -0400 Organization: Liturgical Publications MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ Just to be clear... the document in question was created with PDFWriter 3.02. The plot thickens... :) Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: Rich Sprague To: Sent: Monday, June 14, 1999 5:51 PM Subject: Re: [PDF] Once again... font embedding > > The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM > _________________________________________________________ > > >> I can say yes or no. If I say yes then I can edit to my heart's content. > >> This flies in the face of what many people have told me is impossible to do > >> with Acrobat. The supposed rule is - if the font is not installed, you > >> cannot edit that area of text. I hate to sound confrontational, but how am > >> I able to prove that statement wrong with this particular document? And > >> again, the ability is nice to have but not necessary. I am more interested > >> in the inconsistency between supposed rule and proven reality. > > > > > > Interesting question. I just tried to provoke this by creating a PDF with > > a fully embedded bizarro font, then removed the font from my system. > > Brought the PDF up in Exchange, and it's as you describe. Say Yes to the > > "Unembed the font" dialog and it's editable in the font (and this font was > > deliberately chosen so there'd be no question of font substitutions). > > > > However: if I save the PDF after editing, then re-open it, the font's gone > > and all I get is an error message and a bunch of dots on screen. > > > > Steve Rindsberg > > President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau > > http://www.rdpslides.com > > Steve: > > Someone, and it may have been Aandi, answered this question the other day. > Did you create the PDF with Distiller? > > If my memory serves me correctly, the thread indicated that this would > happen if the PDF was created with Distiller. But not if it was created with > our friendly PDF Writer. > > Perhaps I'm going overboard -- splash -- but I really don't think Adobe > wants PDFs edited unless one has the original fonts residing in their > system. > > -- glug -- > > Rich > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > Rich Sprague PDF & Digital Printing Solutions > (480) 860-0050 richsprague@inficad.com > Check out my new website: http://www.inficad.com/~richsprague > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > > _ > ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ > <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> > <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> > ___________________________________________________________ _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 16-Jun-1999 14:19:35-GMT,2888;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA06673 for ; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 08:19:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA32240; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 09:16:24 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 16 Jun 1999 09:14:54 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA32055; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 09:14:53 -0500 Message-Id: <199906161414.HAA71595@mail.inficad.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 07:14:50 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Once again... font embedding From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ > Just to be clear... the document in question was created with PDFWriter > 3.02. The plot thickens... :) > > Mike I don't have Acrobat 3x on my PC, but the default settings in Acrobat 4x for the PDF Writer are to subset all fonts (but the Base 14) at 35%. This number cannot be changed. You can, however, change the properties of the PDF Writer (PC only) and choose not to subset, and yet embed. As long as you have the original fonts included is your system, by removing the subset before you create the PDF, you should be able to edit at will. Logically, if you wanted the PDF to be editable at first, and yet you wanted the fonts subset later on, I would think that once you finished editing the doc you could export it as a PostScript file and then re-distill with any subset threshold of your choosing. Don't know, haven't tried it, and probably won't try it. But in theory it should work. Rich ---------------------------------------------------------------- Rich Sprague PDF Solutions/Consulting (480) 860-0050 Print Management & Production richsprague@inficad.com 4-Color Digital Printing *38* years experience Sheetfed & Web Printing ---------------------------------------------------------------- _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 16-Jun-1999 14:41:24-GMT,3994;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA07240 for ; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 08:41:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA01988; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 09:37:06 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 16 Jun 1999 09:35:57 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA01833; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 09:35:55 -0500 Message-ID: <013a01beb805$34eac160$466564c8@ntplx.net> From: "Michael Abrahamson" To: References: <199906161414.HAA71595@mail.inficad.com> Subject: Re: [PDF] Once again... font embedding Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 10:33:31 -0400 Organization: Liturgical Publications MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ Good point. I haven't made much use of the "re-distilling" option of PDF files. My actual project is on hold lately so I'm not as deep into things as I once was. I may not get a chance to try everything right now, but I am saving these threads for later referral. Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: Rich Sprague To: Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 1999 10:14 AM Subject: Re: [PDF] Once again... font embedding > > The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM > _________________________________________________________ > > > Just to be clear... the document in question was created with PDFWriter > > 3.02. The plot thickens... :) > > > > Mike > > I don't have Acrobat 3x on my PC, but the default settings in Acrobat 4x for > the PDF Writer are to subset all fonts (but the Base 14) at 35%. This number > cannot be changed. > > You can, however, change the properties of the PDF Writer (PC only) and > choose not to subset, and yet embed. As long as you have the original fonts > included is your system, by removing the subset before you create the PDF, > you should be able to edit at will. > > Logically, if you wanted the PDF to be editable at first, and yet you wanted > the fonts subset later on, I would think that once you finished editing the > doc you could export it as a PostScript file and then re-distill with any > subset threshold of your choosing. > > Don't know, haven't tried it, and probably won't try it. But in theory it > should work. > > Rich > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > Rich Sprague PDF Solutions/Consulting > (480) 860-0050 Print Management & Production > richsprague@inficad.com 4-Color Digital Printing > *38* years experience Sheetfed & Web Printing > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > > _ > ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ > <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> > <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> > ___________________________________________________________ _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 16-Jun-1999 14:41:27-GMT,4916;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA07250 for ; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 08:41:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA01935; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 09:36:43 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 16 Jun 1999 09:34:26 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA01621; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 09:34:25 -0500 X-Sender: prodok@pop.eunet.ch Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 16:31:07 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Max Wyss Subject: Re: [PDF] Anyone know about this software... Cc: "Callaway, Rebecca" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ Rebecca, there seems to be a common misunderstanding about file format conversions, and the functionality of the Capture product. First, the file formats that software converts HPGL into are all _vector_ formats. This means that whatever you have in your HPGL drawing is described as a "path" ... as an object with a starting point and an end point, or a center point and a radius, or a text string with certain attributes starting at a certain point. TIFF, on the other hand, is a _raster_ format, where you have a bunch of image elements distributed on a plane "pixels". If those image elements are distributed on the plane in a specific way, they appear as a straight line, or as a circle, or as text, or.... But all the information you have in your file is a bunch of pixels. The function of Capture is for one to analyze the bunches of pixels and to recognize some of these arrangements of pixels as text. Then, it tries to simulate that bunch of pixels with a font it knows. You can either show that text or hide it. In any case, you now have text which would be searchable. The bunch of pixels is not searchable, but the text is. This is the feature you pay for. You don't pay for getting a TIFF image to PDF. If you simply want to get a TIFF image to PDF, you have other means to do so, by using the normal way via Distiller, for example. Anyway, about that software you found. You would have to run a few tests. There are some fundamental differences between the HPGL format and PostScript. For one, HPGL is intended for a pen plotter which can draw straight lines only. The width of the line depends on the pen selected. Curves are represented as polygons. Text is also represented as a bunch of lines. So, it might be necessary to edit your drawings in an illustration program, and if you have lots of curves, to work on those paths. Illustrator is a nice tool for doing that, for example. Hope, this can help. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch WWW: http://www.prodok.ch/prodok [ Bridging the Knowledge Gap ] ______________________ >We have a need to convert a proprietary viewing system format to >Acrobat. We can get the proprietary format to HPGL, and have found a >CHEAP piece of software to take the HPGL to PDF. It's from a company >called Tailor Made Software, Ltd, and the product is called Hp2Design >Pro. It retails for about $400.00. Here's more from the web site: >(http://www.tailormade.com/hp2des.htm) > >Priced at $400, Hp2Design Pro converts to AutoCAD DWG; DXF AutoDesk >Drawing Web Format (DWF or > WHIP!); Computer Graphics Metafile (CGM) and >InterCAP's ActiveCGM profile; Binary DXF; DXB; Adobe > Postscript; EPS; Adobe Illustrator; IGES; CADKEY; >WordPerfect Graphics; and Mosaic Simple Vector Format (SVF). > >What confuses me is this: I thought to get TIFF to PDF you had to use >the Dongle concept (of paying for batches of conversions). Yet this >software seems to impose no limit, and is $400.00? > >Why would be people buy Capture and Dongles, if there are products for >conversion to PDF that charge only once? > >rebecca _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 16-Jun-1999 14:42:57-GMT,3898;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA07276 for ; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 08:42:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA02285; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 09:40:01 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 16 Jun 1999 09:38:57 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA02199; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 09:38:56 -0500 Message-ID: <004701beb806$09855480$8d74d99b@aatd.eustis.army.mil> From: "Paul Redden" To: References: Subject: Re: [PDF] Tiff to PDF Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 10:34:33 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ This is usually because of the number of pixels in the image and the amount of memory required to process it. If you don't have enough memory on your system it will automatically swap memory with disk space to make up the difference. This is a very time consuming process so, if you can't get the images any smaller (or in vector format) you should add more system memory or run with fewer applications open. I've seen this happen fairly often on systems with 16 MB of memory or less but it could happen with more memory on larger files as well. Paul Redden www.digital-antiquities.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Callaway, Rebecca To: 'Post to PDF listserve' Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 1999 6:21 PM Subject: [PDF] Tiff to PDF > > The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM > _________________________________________________________ > > Hi PDF'ers - > > Got a question about taking TIFF to PDF. Not so much the method or the > tool, but the result once it is in reader. > > Tool set is Wintel, Acrobat 3, Capture 2 > > > We have some TIFF files (I think G4 tiff) of our design drawings in D > and E size. Capture 2 cannot handle these, as the size (dimension) > limit is 27" by 27", and these drawings go out beyond 33". However, we > have found that Exchange's import function will successfully bring these > files into a PDF. However, when you open the PDF created this way, and > change the view on the file, the repaint of the screen is very slow. > > Is this because it is a TIFF files, and all TIFF files brought to PDF > would behave this way? Is it because of the real dimensions of the > drawing and the fact that the screen has to redraw such a big image? Is > there something inherent in the kind of TIFF file used that creates a > "slow drawing" PDF? > > Anyone?? > > Thx - > > Rebecca > _ > ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ > <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> > <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> > ___________________________________________________________ > _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 16-Jun-1999 14:46:53-GMT,3289;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA07426 for ; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 08:46:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA02680; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 09:43:14 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 16 Jun 1999 09:42:01 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA02497; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 09:42:00 -0500 Message-ID: <3162C3A36143D211AF1800104B6FEC93251F07@THOR> From: "Seiffert, Lea" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] RE: pdf-digest for June-16-99 [V2 #542] Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 10:42:01 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ Thanks for the replies. I found the solution I was looking for. I am using bitmapped graphics, so saving a vector graphic as EPS with tiff header won't work. Instead, I put a text frame inside the anchored frame that holds the graphic (in FrameMaker) and type in the text that I want to be searchable. I then send the text frame to the back to hide it. A character tag could be applied to make the text white if necessary, depending on whether I'm actually hiding it behind a graphic or making the anchored frame larger than the graphic and hiding the text box just below the graphic. Where I was going wrong was making the text box smaller than the text it contained. If you do this it will not be searchable. Since I wanted the text box small, I made the text 2 pt. As long as the text fits in the text box, it will be searchable. Thanks again, Lea Seiffert From: Ted Florence Subject: Re: [PDF] searchable graphics in PDF You could try pdfPLUS. From: "Scott Hamlow" I don't know if this is universal and there may be other caveats, but I'm preparing several engineering diagrams for PDF and the only way I could get them to be searchable is to save them as EPS from Visio 5. From there, you can either distill them directly or import them into Frame (maintaining the searchability). "Seiffert, Lea" wrote: > > Does anyone know of a good way to make the graphics in a document searchable > once the document is converted to PDF? I am using FrameMaker as my source > application. I know I have seen documentation on a way to do it with hidden > white text, but I cannot find the instructions now that I need them. > > Thanks, > > Lea Seiffert > Infodata Systems, Inc. _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 16-Jun-1999 15:07:29-GMT,2954;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA08057 for ; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 09:07:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA04770; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 10:03:55 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 16 Jun 1999 10:02:39 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA04651; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 10:02:37 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990616110537.0086c570@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 11:05:37 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: RE: [PDF] PDFMark transitions and the like In-Reply-To: <000001beb75d$be405040$04e78e8c@geo_ws1.u.washington.edu> References: <3.0.5.32.19990615131232.00887100@pop.iglou.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ > >Try this. Create a document JavaScript function: > I'll give that a try, and thanks VERY much for the suggestion. I'm a little unclear, though, on whether I'd need to be concerned with what version of Reader the target audience has on their systems. We'll assume 3 or better, of course (and will supply an installer for the version we WANT them to use on the CD) but do we also need to rely on a plug-in being present, or am I hallucinating again? >function wait(seconds) >{ > >var start_time = new Date(); >var curr_time >var a = false > >while(a==false){ > curr_time = new Date(); > if(((curr_time.valueOf() - start_time.valueOf())/1000) > seconds){ > a = true; > } >} > >} > >Then, in a page open JavaScript: > >wait(5) //Display page for 5 seconds > >this.pageNum++; > >_ >____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ ><- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> > <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> >___________________________________________________________ > > Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 16-Jun-1999 15:14:05-GMT,2493;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA08263 for ; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 09:14:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA05644; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 10:09:26 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 16 Jun 1999 10:08:10 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA05504; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 10:08:08 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990616111106.0086e410@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 11:11:06 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: RE: [PDF] PDFMark transitions and the like In-Reply-To: <000001beb75d$be405040$04e78e8c@geo_ws1.u.washington.edu> References: <3.0.5.32.19990615131232.00887100@pop.iglou.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ Oh, by the way, we did come up with a wonkyworkaround. I wrote a little VB3 app that waits n seconds, fires off a BAT file that launches the "real" PDF, waits another few seconds, then quits. VB3 because this thing's got to have at least a chance of running under Win31 and because VB3 doesn't insist that we dump tons and tons of stuff into the user's \System folder. It happily looks for and finds its (smallish) runtime module and any needed controls wherever it finds itself when it wakes up. > >Try this. Create a document JavaScript function: > >function wait(seconds) >{ > > Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 16-Jun-1999 15:22:18-GMT,2325;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA08576 for ; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 09:22:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA06793; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 10:19:00 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 16 Jun 1999 10:17:50 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA06640; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 10:17:48 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990616112050.00882d60@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 11:20:50 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] Tif to PDF In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ >files into a PDF. However, when you open the PDF created this way, and >change the view on the file, the repaint of the screen is very slow. > It's not the fact that it's a bitmap of any sort so much as the sheer magnitude of the thing that's giving Reader/Exchange a bad case of the slows, I'd guess. Consider that it has to read in what's probably a very large image, then subsample it to screen resolution for display purposes (and re-do that part every time you change the zoom). Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 16-Jun-1999 15:35:08-GMT,2755;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA08930 for ; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 09:35:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA08459; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 10:31:56 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 16 Jun 1999 10:30:33 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA08308; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 10:30:29 -0500 Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 08:30:20 -0700 (PDT) From: George Johnson To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] PDFMark transitions and the like In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19990616110537.0086c570@pop.iglou.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ > I'll give that a try, and thanks VERY much for the suggestion. I'm a > little unclear, though, on whether I'd need to be concerned with what > version of Reader the target audience has on their systems. We'll assume 3 > or better, of course (and will supply an installer for the version we WANT > them to use on the CD) but do we also need to rely on a plug-in being > present, or am I hallucinating again? It works for me with any JavaScript-capable version, which means 3.02 or 4.0 (or patched 3.01). Note that I accidentally left out a few semicolons in the code listing, which I corrected below. If you use this, you may want to move any code that is after the wait() call ("this.pageNum++") into a document function since it can be difficult to subsequently change the page open action JavaScript when using short wait periods. function wait(seconds) { var start_time = new Date(); var curr_time; var a = false; while(a==false){ curr_time = new Date(); if(((curr_time.valueOf() - start_time.valueOf())/1000) > seconds){ a = true; } } } Then, in a page open JavaScript: wait(5); //Display page for 5 seconds this.pageNum++; //Move on to next page _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 16-Jun-1999 16:13:52-GMT,6365;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA10023 for ; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 10:13:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA12273; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 11:06:21 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 16 Jun 1999 11:04:52 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA11995; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 11:04:48 -0500 Date: 16 Jun 99 11:09:53 +0000 From: "Norm Leonard" Subject: Re: [PDF] PDFMark transitions and the like To: pdf X-Mailer: QuickMail Pro 1.5 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-Ascii" Message-Id: <19990616110450.1a5fc58c.in@smtp.sevenww.com> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ To automatically go from page one to page two, go to the Set Page Action menu and create the following Javascript: this.pageNum = ++; To automatically change back and forth from FullScreen mode, go to the Set Page Action menu and create the following Javascript: app.fullscreen = true; (fullscreen is on) app.fullscreen = false; (fullscreen is off) Norman J. Leonard Technical Solutions Developer Seven Worldwide, Inc. 233 N. Michigan Avenue Chicago, IL 60601-5516 Tel: 312-616-8326 nleonard@sevenww.com Max Wyss wrote: > >The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM >_________________________________________________________ > >Steve, > >You can set the display options in the Page Open actions, and not in the >Document Open actions. The approach of a two-pager is actually the one to >use. For the first page, you set the Full Screen view, in the ones for the >second page, you set it to the normal settings. > >To automatically switch from page 1 to page 2, you could use a JavaScript. >I'd have to dig around in my toolbox for the exact script. > >Hope, this can help. > >Max Wyss >PRODOK Engineering >Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing >CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland > >Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 >e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch >WWW: http://www.prodok.ch/prodok > > >[ Bridging the Knowledge Gap ] > > >______________________ > > > >>We're getting started on a fairly large (for us) PDF project for a client. >>The Boss has just declared that there should be the equivalent of a splash >>screen. He wants their logo to come up first, hold for n seconds. After >>that, it goes away and is replaced by the normal "home" screen for the PDF >>collection. >> >>I've gotten various parts of this to work, but can't seem to jiggle the >>bits together into a coherent whole that behaves as he wants. >> >>For example: SPLASH.PDF can be set to open in full screen, no menus, no >>toolbars. Exchange nosedives into the dirt if I set a page close action on >>a one-page PDF, so I made SPLASH a two pager, second page blank, page two >>open action set to Open File. That opens the main PDF, which we'll call >>TEST.PDF for now because that's what I'm calling it for now. >> >>However, when TEST opens, it seems to inherit the FullScreen and no >>menus/toolbars settings from SPLASH, which isn't necessarily what we want >>to have happen. And since it opens fullscreen, it goes right into >>slideshow mode using whatever transitions and advance settings have been >>set as default in Reader/Exchange. We specifically *don't* want that to >>happen. >> >>I'm after a way of either setting things up so TEST opens using the >>settings I've saved for it, OR getting SPLASH and TEST combined into one >>PDF that would: >> >>Open full screen on page 1 >>Pause for n seconds >>Advance automatically to page 2 >>Then cease any automatic advances and let the user run the show from there >>-- in that situation, it's ok by me if there are no menus/toolbars since >>I'll provide any needed navigation features. >> >>Any/all suggestions greedily and gratefully accepted. Thanks, folks. >> >>Steve Rindsberg > > >_ >____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ ><- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> > <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> >___________________________________________________________ > >RFC822 header >----------------------------------- > >From owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Tue Jun 15 16:27:05 1999 >Received: by smtp.sevenww.com from localhost > (router,QMProSrv V2.6); Tue, 15 Jun 1999 16:27:05 -0500 >Received: by smtp.sevenww.com from everglades.binc.net > (208.155.48.8::mail daemon; unverified,QMProSrv V2.6); Tue, 15 Jun 1999 >16:27:05 -0500 >Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) > by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA00200; > Tue, 15 Jun 1999 16:21:40 -0500 >Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 15 Jun 1999 >16:20:28 -0500 >Received: (from majordom@localhost) > by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA00088; > Tue, 15 Jun 1999 16:20:26 -0500 >X-Sender: prodok@pop.eunet.ch >Message-Id: >In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19990615131232.00887100@pop.iglou.com> >Mime-Version: 1.0 >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 23:15:10 +0200 >To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com >From: Max Wyss >Subject: Re: [PDF] PDFMark transitions and the like >Cc: Steve Rindsberg >Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com >Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com >X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html >X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html >X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com > _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 16-Jun-1999 17:13:57-GMT,3620;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA11768 for ; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 11:13:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA20333; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 12:08:17 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 16 Jun 1999 12:06:19 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA20033; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 12:06:17 -0500 From: AEIgraphic@aol.com Message-ID: <6b3197aa.24993301@aol.com> Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 13:04:01 EDT Subject: [PDF] Page Control To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 54 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ Steve Rindsberg wrote: >We're getting started on a fairly large (for us) PDF project for a client. >The Boss has just declared that there should be the equivalent of a splash >screen. He wants their logo to come up first, hold for n seconds. After >that, it goes away and is replaced by the normal "home" screen for the PDF >collection. > >I've gotten various parts of this to work, but can't seem to jiggle the >bits together into a coherent whole that behaves as he wants. > >For example: SPLASH.PDF can be set to open in full screen, no menus, no >toolbars. Exchange nosedives into the dirt if I set a page close action on >a one-page PDF, so I made SPLASH a two pager, second page blank, page two >open action set to Open File. That opens the main PDF, which we'll call >TEST.PDF for now because that's what I'm calling it for now. > >However, when TEST opens, it seems to inherit the FullScreen and no >menus/toolbars settings from SPLASH, which isn't necessarily what we want >to have happen. And since it opens fullscreen, it goes right into >slideshow mode using whatever transitions and advance settings have been >set as default in Reader/Exchange. We specifically *don't* want that to >happen. > >I'm after a way of either setting things up so TEST opens using the >settings I've saved for it, OR getting SPLASH and TEST combined into one >PDF that would: > >Open full screen on page 1 >Pause for n seconds >Advance automatically to page 2 >Then cease any automatic advances and let the user run the show from there >-- in that situation, it's ok by me if there are no menus/toolbars since >I'll provide any needed navigation features. > >Any/all suggestions greedily and gratefully accepted. Thanks, folks. > >Steve Rindsberg In addition to the JavaScripts you received, you can also use the following pdfmark in your authoring applications: [{ThisPage} <>/PUT pdfmark %%EOF Substitute a value for X. Place the pdfmark on page 1 in your authoring application. This pdfmark works in full screen only. Your document will open to page one, and then advance to page 2 in X.X seconds. _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 16-Jun-1999 19:39:09-GMT,11110;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA15988 for ; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 13:39:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA03455; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 14:33:00 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 16 Jun 1999 14:31:10 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA03269; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 14:31:05 -0500 Message-ID: <019201beb82e$3cfbe4a0$466564c8@ntplx.net> From: "Michael Abrahamson" To: "PDF List" Subject: [PDF] PDFWriter vs. Distiller Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 15:27:14 -0400 Organization: Liturgical Publications MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_018F_01BEB80C.B5C8B2E0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_018F_01BEB80C.B5C8B2E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello everyone! Let me warn first you of the lengthy post that follows. = Read at your own risk of falling asleep or missing your kid's next = birthday. :) I have stepped up my efforts to develop a PDF option for our customers = now that we're finding Office 2000 preloaded on a few of their new = systems. We currently have some customized macros that we install on = top of Word 6 and Word 97 that enable them to create their files = correctly and with ease (we even have over 250 WordPerfect 5.1 customers = left using our old macros). We are looking, however, at using PDF as a = way to get out of having to rewrite code every time a new version of = Word is released while also taking advantage of its portability in terms = of file size and retaining the original layout and fonts, etc. Much of = our early research was on Acrobat 3 so when Acrobat 4 was released we = had to re-examine our needs and see how to best employ the added = features and functionality. The point of this post is to gather opinions and knowledge related to = Acrobat 4, specifically the comparison between generating PDF documents = using PDFWriter vs. Distiller. Everyone in the PDF community knows the = basic comparisons by now... use Distiller for complex page layout = programs and type 1 fonts, etc. The conclusion I had reached while = testing Acrobat 3 was that PDFWriter was not robust enough to handle = converting various source documents to PDF without losing characters or = causing general havoc with the resulting PDF file. Specifically, this = conclusion came from my attempts to generate a PDF from a very simple MS = Publisher document. Whole chunks of sentences were dropped from the PDF = file for no apparent reason. One of our desires for the future is that = customers will be able to use whatever Windows program they desire to = create their file and then use Acrobat to convert the file to PDF format = before transmission. That way we give them complete flexibility of = applications, fonts, graphics, etc and are still able to receive, view, = proof and print the file. The concern with PDFWriter 3.02 was the = problems I had with a that very simple Publisher doc. I decided then to = work exclusively with Distiller for obvious reasons. Since that time we have purchased Acrobat 4 and I have been testing its = functionality. I have found a few things that perplexed me but overall = I was satisfied with the release. Today I compared the PDF outputs from = a Publisher 97 document using Distiller and PDFWriter. This time the = document I created was rather complex in design, complete with vertical = titles and a few different fonts and design aspects. Both resulting PDF = files looked great. So the question looms: Is PDFWriter 4 reliable = enough to use as the standard for PDF file creation from any Windows = program? One of our main objectives in developing a PDF option is that = it be sleek and easy to adapt. Trying to navigate Distiller's job = options and settings could prove fatal to our efforts to "make it = simple" for our customers. This makes the simplicity of PDFWriter and = its interface very attractive. Of course the main objective is to = develop a reliable program, therefore... Can anyone provide me with some insight into how well PDFWriter behaves = with a wide array of page-layout and word processing applications? The = files we get generally are 4-10 pages of mostly text with some graphics = and a few photos here and there. Think of your typical Church = bulletin... that's what we do. :) All our work is B/W so the color = features are of no concern. As long as we can guarantee the layout, = fonts and graphics stay put and aren't replaced we will have achieved = our goal for this product. Thanks to those who successfully reach the end of this post. You may = now return to your everyday lives and may find that the seasons have = changed while you were perusing my little inquiry. :) Mike Abrahamson Liturgical Publications, Inc. ------=_NextPart_000_018F_01BEB80C.B5C8B2E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello everyone!  Let me warn first you of the = lengthy=20 post that follows.  Read at your own risk of falling asleep or = missing your=20 kid's next birthday.  :)
 
I have stepped up my efforts to develop a PDF option = for our=20 customers now that we're finding Office 2000 preloaded on a few of their = new=20 systems.  We currently have some customized macros that we install = on top=20 of Word 6 and Word 97 that enable them to create their files correctly = and with=20 ease (we even have over 250 WordPerfect 5.1 customers left using our old = macros).  We are looking, however, at using PDF as a way to get out = of=20 having to rewrite code every time a new version of Word is released = while also=20 taking advantage of its portability in terms of file size and retaining = the=20 original layout and fonts, etc.  Much of our early research was on = Acrobat=20 3 so when Acrobat 4 was released we had to re-examine our needs and see = how to=20 best employ the added features and functionality.
 
The point of this post is to gather opinions and = knowledge=20 related to Acrobat 4, specifically the comparison between generating PDF = documents using PDFWriter vs. Distiller.  Everyone in the PDF = community=20 knows the basic comparisons by now... use Distiller for complex page = layout=20 programs and type 1 fonts, etc.  The conclusion I had reached while = testing=20 Acrobat 3 was that PDFWriter was not robust enough to handle converting = various=20 source documents to PDF without losing characters or causing general = havoc with=20 the resulting PDF file.  Specifically, this conclusion came from my = attempts to generate a PDF from a very simple MS Publisher = document.  Whole=20 chunks of sentences were dropped from the PDF file for no apparent = reason. =20 One of our desires for the future is that customers will be able to use = whatever=20 Windows program they desire to create their file and then use Acrobat to = convert=20 the file to PDF format before transmission.  That way we give them = complete=20 flexibility of applications, fonts, graphics, etc and are still able to = receive,=20 view, proof and print the file.  The concern with PDFWriter 3.02 = was the=20 problems I had with a that very simple Publisher doc.  I decided = then to=20 work exclusively with Distiller for obvious reasons.
 
Since that time we have purchased Acrobat 4 and I = have been=20 testing its functionality.  I have found a few things that = perplexed me but=20 overall I was satisfied with the release.  Today I = compared the PDF=20 outputs from a Publisher 97 document using Distiller and = PDFWriter.  This=20 time the document I created was rather complex in design, complete with = vertical=20 titles and a few different fonts and design aspects.  Both = resulting PDF=20 files looked great.  So the question looms: Is PDFWriter 4 reliable = enough=20 to use as the standard for PDF file creation from any Windows = program?  One=20 of our main objectives in developing a PDF option is that it be = sleek and=20 easy to adapt.  Trying to navigate Distiller's job options and = settings=20 could prove fatal to our efforts to "make it simple" for our = customers. =20 This makes the simplicity of PDFWriter and its interface very = attractive. =20 Of course the main objective is to develop a reliable program,=20 therefore...
 
Can anyone provide me with some insight into how = well=20 PDFWriter behaves with a wide array of page-layout and word processing=20 applications?  The files we get generally are 4-10 pages of mostly = text=20 with some graphics and a few photos here and there.  Think of your = typical=20 Church bulletin... that's what we do.  :)  All our work is B/W = so the=20 color features are of no concern.  As long as we can guarantee the = layout,=20 fonts and graphics stay put and aren't replaced we will have achieved = our goal=20 for this product.
 
Thanks to those who successfully reach the end of = this=20 post.  You may now return to your everyday lives and may find that = the=20 seasons have changed while you were perusing my little inquiry. =20 :)
 
Mike Abrahamson
Liturgical Publications, = Inc.
------=_NextPart_000_018F_01BEB80C.B5C8B2E0-- _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 16-Jun-1999 19:56:35-GMT,6201;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA16510 for ; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 13:56:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA05410; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 14:52:45 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 16 Jun 1999 14:51:25 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA05236; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 14:51:23 -0500 Message-ID: <01BEB80F.F5EDDFA0.David_Tamburello@mazer.com> From: Dave Tamburello To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] PDFWriter vs. Distiller Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 15:50:29 -0400 Organization: Mazer Corporation X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ Regardless of version, if you commit to using PDFWriter as your standard converter, you must never use EPS graphics. PDFWriter does not understand the PostScript they contain and displays only the low-low-res placeholder image. David M.Tamburello Training Specialist Mazer e-Publishing 2436 Gaynor Ave. NW Grand Rapids, MI 49544-1830 (616) 784-8963 Ask me about Acrobat 4.0 training! -----Original Message----- From: Michael Abrahamson [SMTP:mabrahamson@liturgicalpublications.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 1999 3:27 PM To: PDF List Subject: [PDF] PDFWriter vs. Distiller Hello everyone! Let me warn first you of the lengthy post that follows. Read at your own risk of falling asleep or missing your kid's next birthday. :) I have stepped up my efforts to develop a PDF option for our customers now that we're finding Office 2000 preloaded on a few of their new systems. We currently have some customized macros that we install on top of Word 6 and Word 97 that enable them to create their files correctly and with ease (we even have over 250 WordPerfect 5.1 customers left using our old macros). We are looking, however, at using PDF as a way to get out of having to rewrite code every time a new version of Word is released while also taking advantage of its portability in terms of file size and retaining the original layout and fonts, etc. Much of our early research was on Acrobat 3 so when Acrobat 4 was released we had to re-examine our needs and see how to best employ the added features and functionality. The point of this post is to gather opinions and knowledge related to Acrobat 4, specifically the comparison between generating PDF documents using PDFWriter vs. Distiller. Everyone in the PDF community knows the basic comparisons by now... use Distiller for complex page layout programs and type 1 fonts, etc. The conclusion I had reached while testing Acrobat 3 was that PDFWriter was not robust enough to handle converting various source documents to PDF without losing characters or causing general havoc with the resulting PDF file. Specifically, this conclusion came from my attempts to generate a PDF from a very simple MS Publisher document. Whole chunks of sentences were dropped from the PDF file for no apparent reason. One of our desires for the future is that customers will be able to use whatever Windows program they desire to create their file and then use Acrobat to convert the file to PDF format before transmission. That way we give them complete flexibility of applications, fonts, graphics, etc and are still able to receive, view, proof and print the file. The concern with PDFWriter 3.02 was the problems I had with a that very simple Publisher doc. I decided then to work exclusively with Distiller for obvious reasons. Since that time we have purchased Acrobat 4 and I have been testing its functionality. I have found a few things that perplexed me but overall I was satisfied with the release. Today I compared the PDF outputs from a Publisher 97 document using Distiller and PDFWriter. This time the document I created was rather complex in design, complete with vertical titles and a few different fonts and design aspects. Both resulting PDF files looked great. So the question looms: Is PDFWriter 4 reliable enough to use as the standard for PDF file creation from any Windows program? One of our main objectives in developing a PDF option is that it be sleek and easy to adapt. Trying to navigate Distiller's job options and settings could prove fatal to our efforts to "make it simple" for our customers. This makes the simplicity of PDFWriter and its interface very attractive. Of course the main objective is to develop a reliable program, therefore... Can anyone provide me with some insight into how well PDFWriter behaves with a wide array of page-layout and word processing applications? The files we get generally are 4-10 pages of mostly text with some graphics and a few photos here and there. Think of your typical Church bulletin... that's what we do. :) All our work is B/W so the color features are of no concern. As long as we can guarantee the layout, fonts and graphics stay put and aren't replaced we will have achieved our goal for this product. Thanks to those who successfully reach the end of this post. You may now return to your everyday lives and may find that the seasons have changed while you were perusing my little inquiry. :) Mike Abrahamson Liturgical Publications, Inc. << File: ATT00000.html >> _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 16-Jun-1999 21:49:12-GMT,9088;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA20088 for ; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 15:49:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA16985; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 16:44:43 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 16 Jun 1999 16:42:17 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA16738; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 16:42:09 -0500 Message-Id: <199906162142.OAA74365@mail.inficad.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 14:42:08 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] PDFWriter vs. Distiller From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="MS_Mac_OE_3012388929_10186207_MIME_Part" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ > THIS MESSAGE IS IN MIME FORMAT. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --MS_Mac_OE_3012388929_10186207_MIME_Part Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit We are looking, however, at using PDF as a way to get out of having to rewrite code every time a new version of Word is released while also taking advantage of its portability in terms of file size and retaining the original layout and fonts, etc. ---This is an excellent idea! So the question looms: Is PDFWriter 4 reliable enough to use as the standard for PDF file creation from any Windows program? ---No. Try making a PDF file using the PDF Writer on any of the sample Publisher documents that have vector (eps) graphics. It doesn't work. I made a file from the sample doc that has the three colored rectangles with the graduated screens under the black bar with the words "NEWSLETTER TITLE". The Writer choked...badly. ---You can find the recommendations for which method to use beginning on page 35 of the Acrobat User Guide. Clearly, the PDF Writer is meant to create PDFs more quickly from documents with mostly text. One of our main objectives in developing a PDF option is that it be sleek and easy to adapt. Trying to navigate Distiller's job options and settings could prove fatal to our efforts to "make it simple" for our customers. This makes the simplicity of PDFWriter and its interface very attractive. Of course the main objective is to develop a reliable program, therefore... Can anyone provide me with some insight into how well PDFWriter behaves with a wide array of page-layout and word processing applications? The files we get generally are 4-10 pages of mostly text with some graphics and a few photos here and there. Think of your typical Church bulletin... that's what we do. :) All our work is B/W so the color features are of no concern. As long as we can guarantee the layout, fonts and graphics stay put and aren't replaced we will have achieved our goal for this product. ---The Distiller option in Acrobat 4 is extremely user-friendly. There are three choices for Job Options which can easily be selected (Screen, Print and Press). When one goes to print, they just select the Acrobat as the Distiller and away they go. ---If you want to make it straightforward, give people the choice that covers the most possible options. All you need is one file made with the PDF Writer which has an eps graphic in it, and you're in trouble. Mike Abrahamson Liturgical Publications, Inc. ---I am creating a series of documents on how to create a PDF file for many of the most popular applications on the PC and the Mac. ---If anyone wants copies as I have them available, please e-mail me with the applications (and platform) of your interest and I will provide them to you without charge. Rich ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Rich Sprague PDF Solutions/Consulting (480) 860-0050 Print Management & Production richsprague@inficad.com 4-Color Digital Printing *38* years experience Sheetfed & Web Printing ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- --MS_Mac_OE_3012388929_10186207_MIME_Part Content-type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Re: [PDF] PDFWriter vs. Distiller
We are looking, however, at using PDF as a way to get out of ha= ving to rewrite code every time a new version of Word is released while also= taking advantage of its portability in terms of file size and retaining the= original layout and fonts, etc.  

---This is an excellent idea!
 
So the question looms: Is PDFWriter 4 reliable enough to use as the standar= d for PDF file creation from any Windows program?  

---No. Try making a PDF file using the PDF Writer on any of the sample Publ= isher documents that have vector (eps) graphics. It doesn't work. I made a f= ile from the sample doc that has the three colored rectangles with the gradu= ated screens under the black bar with the words "NEWSLETTER
TITLE".  The Writer choked...badly.

---You can find the recommendations for which method to use beginning on pa= ge 35 of the Acrobat User Guide. Clearly, the PDF Writer is meant to create = PDFs more quickly from documents with mostly text.

One of our main objectives in developing a PDF option is that it be sleek a= nd easy to adapt.  Trying to navigate Distiller's job options and setti= ngs could prove fatal to our efforts to "make it simple" for our c= ustomers.  This makes the simplicity of PDFWriter and its interface ver= y attractive.  Of course the main objective is to develop a reliable pr= ogram, therefore...
 
Can anyone provide me with some insight into how well PDFWriter behaves wit= h a wide array of page-layout and word processing applications?  The fi= les we get generally are 4-10 pages of mostly text with some graphics and a = few photos here and there.  Think of your typical Church bulletin... th= at's what we do.  :)  All our work is B/W so the color features ar= e of no concern.  As long as we can guarantee the layout, fonts and gra= phics stay put and aren't replaced we will have achieved our goal for this p= roduct.

---The Distiller option in Acrobat 4 is extremely user-friendly. There are = three choices for Job Options which can easily be selected (Screen, Print an= d Press). When one goes to print, they just select the Acrobat as the Distil= ler and away they go.

---If you want to make it straightforward, give people the choice that cove= rs the most possible options. All you need is one file made with the PDF Wri= ter which has an eps graphic in it, and you're in trouble.
  
Mike Abrahamson
Liturgical Publications, Inc.

---I am creating a series of documents on how to create a PDF file for many= of the most popular applications on the PC and the Mac.

---If anyone wants copies as I have them available, please e-mail me with t= he applications (and platform) of your interest and I will provide them to y= ou without charge.

Rich

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Rich Sprague           &n= bsp;            =     PDF Solutions/Consulting
(480) 860-0050           =           Print Management= & Production
richsprague@inficad.com         &nb= sp;       4-Color Digital Printing
*38* years experience          = ;          Sheetfed & = Web Printing
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--MS_Mac_OE_3012388929_10186207_MIME_Part-- _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 16-Jun-1999 22:38:45-GMT,2671;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA21442 for ; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 16:38:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA21288; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 17:32:09 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 16 Jun 1999 17:30:51 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA21142; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 17:30:50 -0500 Message-ID: <376825C4.F0CFCB1@showads.com.au> Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 08:32:25 +1000 From: "Stephen Smith" Organization: Show Ads X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Automatic forwarding of PDF's as e-mail References: <507A405B779ED211B0FA00105A2876330657D5@COMMS_SERVER> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ Adobe's PressReady does it nicely by adding an email to the pdf. This is via the Circulate interface dragging the pdf thumbnail onto an email button. I am not aware of it being released yet but there should be some information on the Adobe web site. regards Steve Smith Show Ads Australia MartinB wrote: > The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM > _________________________________________________________ > > Has anybody any ideas on whether it is possible to automatically forward > completed interactive PDF's as e-mail? In other words, could the PDF be > forwarded in response to a button press?? > > Thanks for any tips or suggestions, > Martin Brown > > _ > ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ > <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> > <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> > ___________________________________________________________ _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 17-Jun-1999 0:44:49-GMT,2068;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA24764 for ; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 18:44:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA31198; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 19:38:07 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 16 Jun 1999 19:36:24 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA30965; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 19:36:18 -0500 Message-ID: <37684130.7890AC9F@wanadoo.fr> Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 02:28:32 +0200 From: Michel Lausseur X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [fr] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: fr MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Automatic forwarding of PDF's as e-mail References: <507A405B779ED211B0FA00105A2876330657D5@COMMS_SERVER> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ MartinB a écrit : > Has anybody any ideas on whether it is possible to automatically forward > completed interactive PDF's as e-mail? In other words, could the PDF be > forwarded in response to a button press?? Create a Forms button, with the following action: "Execute command", then "File + Send". After filling the PDF form, the form is sent as an attached file by pressing the button. Michel Lausseur Aalto Consultant _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 17-Jun-1999 0:57:53-GMT,2554;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA25067 for ; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 18:57:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA32455; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 19:51:58 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 16 Jun 1999 19:50:51 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA32331; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 19:50:49 -0500 Message-ID: <376845D4.D089FF73@nbnet.nb.ca> Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 21:48:20 -0300 From: Robert Richard X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Pdfzone Subject: [PDF] PDF & Printing Press. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ PDFZone list, Our department (federal) has made an enormous contributions to create all promotion tools for an important sporting event. It will unite over 1500 young athletes ranging from 8-14 years old in eastern Canada. This year presentation of the event is in our region. My supervisor has created a program for these games using Microsoft Word 7.0 and Corel Draw 8 under Windows95. Reality is that the Printing Press dont use Windows, but work with MacIntosh systems. Basically, they cant read our material and alot of work has been put in this promotion tool. The Printing Press have ask us to send them a copy of said documents under a pdf format, doing so is not a problem. Not having great knowledge in printing, how will they be able to benefit from pdf format. Could they print our documents under pdf format or just visualize the content? We are really in a rush to submit these documents to them. Thanks in advance for fast reply, Robert Richard Human Resources Developpment Canada. _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 17-Jun-1999 1:24:49-GMT,3645;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA25702 for ; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 19:24:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA01564; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 20:13:12 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 16 Jun 1999 20:11:56 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA01460; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 20:11:55 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 18:12:48 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF & Printing Press. From: "Todd Donahue" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Script: \\filterscript.mml Message-Id: <01115251005677@acquiredknowledge.com> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ Robert, Once properly (emphasis on properly) converted to PDF the printer will be able to both view and print your PDF files. If the files contain color, they can be color separated/output by using a plug-in to Acrobat (formerly known as Exchange). -- Todd Donahue Acquired Knowledge Inc. todd@acquiredknowledge.com Creators of EZ-PDF "The easiest way to create PDF files for any use" http://www.acquiredknowledge.com ---------- >From: Robert Richard >To: Pdfzone >Subject: [PDF] PDF & Printing Press. >Date: Wed, Jun 16, 1999, 5:48 PM > > > The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM > _________________________________________________________ > > PDFZone list, > > Our department (federal) has made an enormous contributions to create > all promotion tools for an important sporting event. It will unite over > 1500 young athletes ranging from 8-14 years old in eastern Canada. This > year presentation of the event is in our region. > > My supervisor has created a program for these games using Microsoft Word > 7.0 and Corel Draw 8 under Windows95. Reality is that the Printing Press > dont use Windows, but work with MacIntosh systems. Basically, they cant > read our material and alot of work has been put in this promotion tool. > The Printing Press have ask us to send them a copy of said documents > under a pdf format, doing so is not a problem. Not having great > knowledge in printing, how will they be able to benefit from pdf format. > Could they print our documents under pdf format or just visualize the > content? > > We are really in a rush to submit these documents to them. > > Thanks in advance for fast reply, > > Robert Richard > Human Resources Developpment Canada. > > _ > ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ > <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> > <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> > ___________________________________________________________ _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 17-Jun-1999 2:08:40-GMT,2463;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA26684 for ; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 20:08:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA05380; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 21:01:57 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 16 Jun 1999 21:00:02 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA05198; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 20:59:58 -0500 Message-ID: <37685691.76AD8DA4@nbnet.nb.ca> Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 22:59:45 -0300 From: Robert Richard X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Pdfzone Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF & Printing Press Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ PDFZone list, Thanks for reply. >From your response, I do have a few other questions. Todd Donahue wrote---------------- "...Once properly (emphasis on properly) converted to PDF the printer will be able to both view and print your PDF files...". Properly convert pdf document with Exchange would mean using the correct compression combinations and font embedding. If size is not a fact, I could choose the no font compression with Exchange. Our main goal is printing our program and not file size. Todd Donahue wrote---------------- If the files contain color, they can be color separated/output by using a plug-in to Acrobat (formerly known as Exchange). Yes, it does contain graphics created with Corel Draw 8, saved as .tiff format and inserted in Microsoft Word 97. Also, I am not sure what you mean about "...color separated/output...". Thanks again for reply. Robert Richard Eastern Canada. _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 17-Jun-1999 6:02:14-GMT,4554;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA02457 for ; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 00:02:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA21084; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 00:52:02 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 17 Jun 1999 00:50:14 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA20944; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 00:50:10 -0500 Message-Id: From: "Callaway, Rebecca" To: "pdf@lists.pdfzone.com" Subject: RE: [PDF] Tiff to PDF Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 17:20:05 -0700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.996.62 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ Hi Aandi - Thx for your reply. Yes, I understand the difference between Vector and bitmap, though I kinda thought that the nature of my question might imply a more remedial understanding. What I have gotten from my post is that it is a waste to use CAPTURE when you only want image only, because you decrementing the dongle and not using what you are paying for. Getting TIF to PDF is not the "cost" part of Capture. It was also pointed out to me that I could import or embed the subject TIF in an application that would support printing to Postscript, and PDF it from there. I could not CAPTURE these particular TIFFs anyway, as the D size and E size are too large for CAPTURE (image only). They do import into Exchange (v. 3), and assume they will into Acrobat 4 as well. Another poster suggested looking at Image Alchemy -- " I have had good experience with another product called Image Alchemy by Hand Made Software (http://www.handmadesw.com) I believe their basic 16 bit windows version is $69 and will convert to PDF from over 90 formats. their Unix version and 32 bit versions retail for $200 and their PS versions which will convert from PS and PDF files as well as to is $400. This is a command line driven program which makes it fast and easy to run on multiple files in batch mode. These TIF's are coming from a CAD or design system of some sort, but the rub is that we're moving from a legacy proprietary viewing system (ViewPort) and I think the TIF was the compromise neutral format from the Viewport proprietary format. Thanks again for your individual attention to my post. Your contributions offer a lot of help. Rebecca >-----Original Message----- >From: Aandi Inston [SMTP:quite@dial.pipex.com] >Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 1999 1:31 AM >To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com >Subject: RE: [PDF] Tiff to PDF > > >The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM >_________________________________________________________ > >> Is this because it is a TIFF files, and all TIFF files brought to PDF >> would behave this way? Is it because of the real dimensions of the >> drawing and the fact that the screen has to redraw such a big >> image? Is >> there something inherent in the kind of TIFF file used that creates a >> "slow drawing" PDF? > >You need to fully understand the difference between vector and bitmap. >Do you? > >A scanned bitmap of a 30" original is HUGE. So huge, the PDF may be >viable for archiving but not for screen display. > >CAPTURE - or the Capture plug-in in Exchange - is designed for text, not >drawings, but might work. It's worth a try. > >Did your drawings not originate in a CAD package? If so the secret is >not to scan them but convert from the vector original. > >Aandi >_ >____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ ><- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> > <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> >___________________________________________________________ _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 17-Jun-1999 8:41:38-GMT,1809;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA05992 for ; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 02:41:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA29676; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 03:31:53 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 17 Jun 1999 03:29:57 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA29570; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 03:29:54 -0500 From: "Robins, K, Kendra, Ms" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 10:29:10 SAST-2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: [PDF] paper size X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.54) Message-Id: Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ I am trying to use Adobe to print pdf documents on 4 x 6 inch cards, but when I select this custom paper size in the printer setup dialog box, Adobe then overrides my selection after I have clicked ok. Does anyone know a way to get around this problem? Thanks, Kendra Robins _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 17-Jun-1999 11:30:24-GMT,3444;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA09671 for ; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 05:30:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA06124; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 06:20:36 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 17 Jun 1999 06:18:45 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA06024; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 06:18:43 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Tiff to PDF Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 12:18:11 +0100 Message-ID: <001c01beb8b3$16016700$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ > What I have gotten from my post is that it is a waste to use CAPTURE > when you only want image only, because you decrementing the dongle and > not using what you are paying for. I'd agree - it seems fairly extravagant, but if you want the other automation features of Exchange and your budget covers it (or you have one of these very expensive unlimited use dongles), then Capture may make sense. > It was also pointed out to me that I could import or embed the subject > TIF in an application that would support printing to > Postscript, and PDF > it from there. I could not CAPTURE these particular TIFFs anyway, as > the D size and E size are too large for CAPTURE (image only). They do > import into Exchange (v. 3), and assume they will into Acrobat 4 as > well. Importing to Exchange is often mis-used, in my opinion. Although it isn't really obvious, the files are being prepared for use in the Capture plug-in. So compression is often minimal (JPEG compression or subsampling would reduce the effectiveness of the OCR). With Distiller, you have full control over compression options, and can also choose to subsample. Since you can't OCR and don't have a vector equivalent, the main deciding factors in speed are the raw and compressed size (each has an effect). You can reduce both by lowering the resolution, and experimenting to find the best resolution is a must for the most effective file. Our Quite A Box Of Tricks product (www.quite.com) can be used even in free demo mode to report the raw and compressed size of images in a file. Check the image model too. If they are black and white, be sure they do not appear as greyscale or colour in the file. Aandi _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 17-Jun-1999 12:58:25-GMT,1583;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA11601 for ; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 06:58:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA12773; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 07:50:33 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 17 Jun 1999 07:48:44 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA12612; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 07:48:40 -0500 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 13:45:24 +0100 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: ron Subject: [PDF] Field icon MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 4.02 M Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ The field icon has gone from the toolbar in Exchange Have tried reinstalling with no change Can anyone help -- regards Ron _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 17-Jun-1999 13:22:28-GMT,4140;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA12195 for ; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 07:22:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA15068; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 08:15:15 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 17 Jun 1999 08:14:01 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA14912; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 08:14:00 -0500 Message-Id: <199906171313.GAA37525@mail.inficad.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 06:13:57 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF & Printing Press From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ > > The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM > _________________________________________________________ > > PDFZone list, > > Thanks for reply. > >>From your response, I do have a few other questions. > > Todd Donahue wrote---------------- > > "...Once properly (emphasis on properly) converted to PDF the printer > will be able to both view and print your PDF files...". > > Properly convert pdf document with Exchange would mean using the correct > compression combinations and font embedding. If size is not a fact, I > could choose the no font compression with Exchange. Our main goal is > printing our program and not file size. Use Acrobat 4x, upgrade available for $99.00 from http://www.pdfzone.com and select the PRESS OPTIMIZE Job Option. > Todd Donahue wrote---------------- > > If the files contain color, they can be color separated/output by using > a plug-in to Acrobat (formerly known as Exchange). > > Yes, it does contain graphics created with Corel Draw 8, saved as .tiff > format and inserted in Microsoft Word 97. Also, I am not sure what you > mean about "...color separated/output...". When a PDF is printed on an offset press, four pieces of film are required, per page. These are called color separations, also known as CMYK for the four colors (cyan/magenta/yellow/black). There are plug-ins often required for the company that is doing any output, unless the necessary code is built into the RIP. You don't have the worry about this *except* you need to make sure that your vendor is capable of working with the PDFs you create. Best to find someone who knows what they are doing. Since you seem to be new to this, I'd send a test file so it can be pre-flighted. If you are going to press, there are issues with Word files (because of the RGB color space, among other things), that require special attention. I'm assuming that you are going to press...if you are going to print (color laser), then your optimized setting should be PRINT. > Thanks again for reply. > > Robert Richard > Eastern Canada. If you have further concerns, feel free to e-mail me privately. I'll try to guide you the best I can. Rich ---------------------------------------------------------------- Rich Sprague PDF Solutions/Consulting (480) 860-0050 Print Management & Production richsprague@inficad.com 4-Color Digital Printing *38* years experience Sheetfed & Web Printing ---------------------------------------------------------------- _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 17-Jun-1999 14:08:44-GMT,3201;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA13372 for ; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 08:08:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA19468; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 08:54:48 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 17 Jun 1999 08:50:58 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA18839; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 08:50:53 -0500 Message-Id: <199906171350.GAA43463@mail.inficad.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 06:50:50 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Tiff to PDF From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ > Importing to Exchange is often mis-used, in my opinion. Although it > isn't really obvious, the files are being prepared for use in the Capture > plug-in. So compression is often minimal (JPEG compression or subsampling > would reduce the effectiveness of the OCR). Aandi, I have some concerns about the Capture capabilities included in Acrobat 4. I never used Capture until yesterday. I never had a need to and, frankly, still don't. I wanted to try it so I could relate to the threads I'm reading and see how it works. In particular, one writer was having major problems with Capture and I have spent several hours trying to help her. This was with basic, I mean plain vanilla, text. I took a simple document, with 10 pt. Times which had been output on my 800 dpi laser printer, and scanned it. I was surprised at how slow the process was, and how many of the lines required TouchUp. Is this normal? I even scanned at 600 dpi. I am sure that there are many uses for Capture. And, particularly, for the full version. But I suspect that some people are using Capture as an alternative to simply printing a PostScript file and then distilling. Or, for simple documents, using the PDF Writer. Do you have an opinion on this? Rich ---------------------------------------------------------------- Rich Sprague PDF Solutions/Consulting (480) 860-0050 Print Management & Production richsprague@inficad.com 4-Color Digital Printing *38* years experience Sheetfed & Web Printing ---------------------------------------------------------------- _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 17-Jun-1999 14:17:48-GMT,1972;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA13599 for ; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 08:17:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA22437; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 09:12:46 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 17 Jun 1999 09:11:29 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA22205; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 09:11:28 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Field icon Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 15:11:13 +0100 Message-ID: <002001beb8cb$42b9d760$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ > The field icon has gone from the toolbar in Exchange What platform are you on (e.g. Windows 98)? What version of Exchange (e.g. 3.01)? Did you download and install the forms author recently? Did you download and install the forms filler recently? Aandi _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 17-Jun-1999 14:24:49-GMT,3282;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA13820 for ; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 08:24:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA23223; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 09:17:47 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 17 Jun 1999 09:16:35 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA23031; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 09:16:33 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Tiff to PDF Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 15:16:20 +0100 Message-ID: <002101beb8cb$f91c35c0$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <199906171350.GAA43463@mail.inficad.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ > In particular, one writer was having major problems with > Capture and I have > spent several hours trying to help her. This was with basic, > I mean plain > vanilla, text. > > I took a simple document, with 10 pt. Times which had been > output on my 800 > dpi laser printer, and scanned it. I was surprised at how > slow the process > was, and how many of the lines required TouchUp. Is this > normal? I even > scanned at 600 dpi. If this did not work, the chances are that attention is needed to the scanner settings. This is the single most important factor in OCR (assuming a reasonable original), and the one most often overlooked. Scan a page to Photoshop (or whatever) and examine it very closely at high magnification. Try to imagine the job an OCR program has to do in picking out letters. Are the letters clear? Well defined? Sharp edges? Not broken up? Is the background (paper) empty? No noise or dust? These can usually be addressed in the scanner settings, but people who want the best results often scan to Photoshop NOT Acrobat, and check/retouch each original before passing it to Acrobat (through a TIFF file). > But I suspect that some people are using Capture as an > alternative to simply > printing a PostScript file and then distilling. Or, for > simple documents, > using the PDF Writer. This is a terrible mistake, but I have seen cases where people learn only one thing about Acrobat, and assume that's all there is. Whatever that one thing is, it is sure to be the wrong one for the job they want to do. Aandi _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 17-Jun-1999 14:25:50-GMT,3815;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA13859 for ; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 08:25:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA23763; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 09:20:49 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 17 Jun 1999 09:19:35 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAB23500; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 09:19:33 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990617102233.0086d3e0@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 10:22:33 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: RE: [PDF] PDFMark transitions and the like In-Reply-To: References: <3.0.5.32.19990616110537.0086c570@pop.iglou.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ >It works for me with any JavaScript-capable version, which means >3.02 or 4.0 (or patched 3.01). Hmmm. That may be the kiss of death. The man with the checkbook is an utter technophobe who understands roughly nothing of computers. Doesn't want to install anything on the user's system, wants it to run on Win 3.1 --> Win95 --> NT, etc. We're gradually educating him that every time he places more such demands on the project, he's going to lose features. We can include the later Reader and strongly suggest that the user install it, but I'd hesitate to force the issue. If they were to open a PDF with Java code that moves from the "splash" page to the real material, what would happen if they used a non-Java enabled version of Reader? I'd be concerned that it would just sit on the splash page forever (and did I mention that we're not allowed to sully his lovely splash/logo screen with any ugly buttons?) Note that I accidentally left out a few >semicolons in the code listing, which I corrected below. If you use this, >you may want to move any code that is after the wait() call >("this.pageNum++") into a document function since it can be difficult to >subsequently change the page open action JavaScript when using short wait >periods. > > >function wait(seconds) >{ > >var start_time = new Date(); >var curr_time; >var a = false; > >while(a==false){ > curr_time = new Date(); > if(((curr_time.valueOf() - start_time.valueOf())/1000) > seconds){ > a = true; > } >} > >} > >Then, in a page open JavaScript: > >wait(5); //Display page for 5 seconds > >this.pageNum++; //Move on to next page > > >_ >____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ ><- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> > <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> >___________________________________________________________ > > Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 17-Jun-1999 14:28:55-GMT,2181;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA13917 for ; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 08:28:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA24237; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 09:23:42 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 17 Jun 1999 09:22:24 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA24037; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 09:22:23 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990617102522.00878100@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 10:25:22 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] Page Control In-Reply-To: <6b3197aa.24993301@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ > >In addition to the JavaScripts you received, you can also use the following >pdfmark in your authoring applications: > > [{ThisPage} < >>/PUT pdfmark > %%EOF > Ah! I ran across something similar in Thomas Merz' book, but idiot that I am, I assumed that the duration referred to the duration of the page transition, not the length of time the page was on screen. Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 17-Jun-1999 14:38:31-GMT,3614;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA14210 for ; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 08:38:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA25461; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 09:32:05 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 17 Jun 1999 09:30:35 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA25256; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 09:30:34 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990617103337.008ab100@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 10:33:37 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] PDFWriter vs. Distiller In-Reply-To: <019201beb82e$3cfbe4a0$466564c8@ntplx.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ Can anyone provide me with some insight into how well PDFWriter behaves with a wide array of page-layout and word processing applications? The files we get generally are 4-10 pages of mostly text with some graphics and a few photos here and there. Think of your typical Church bulletin... that's what we do. :) All our work is B/W so the color features are of no concern. As long as we can guarantee the layout, fonts and graphics stay put and aren't replaced we will have achieved our goal for this product. Thanks to those who successfully reach the end of this post. You may now return to your everyday lives and may find that the seasons have changed while you were perusing my little inquiry. :) I wasn't doing much but waiting for the heat to break anyhow. I love this autumn foliage, don't you? ;-) I know that PDFWriter and PowerPoint97 don't get on well at all. Without special settings and fiddling with the PPT presentation itself, you either lock up the machine or get all-black PDFs. I've had rather bad luck mixing CorelDraw in various versions with PDFWriter as well. Crashes, mostly, where Distiller presents no problems whatever. Have you seen the way PM6.52 handles setup for Distiller-made PDFs? While you can plow through all the options dialogs if you like, you can also choose from (and create your own) pre-sets. Pick the one appropriate to the task at hand and generate the PDF. A real no-brainer, IF there's a preset that does what you want. I've no idea how this is implemented or whether the interface that allows it is exposed, but if so, it would seem ideal for your purposes, especially if you could provide presets and eliminate the options dialogs altogether. Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 17-Jun-1999 14:50:30-GMT,3245;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA14560 for ; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 08:50:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA27043; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 09:44:40 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 17 Jun 1999 09:43:21 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA26923; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 09:43:19 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990617104617.008af1e0@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 10:46:17 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF & Printing Press In-Reply-To: <37685691.76AD8DA4@nbnet.nb.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ > >Properly convert pdf document with Exchange would mean using the correct >compression combinations and font embedding. If size is not a fact, I >could choose the no font compression with Exchange. You'd make compression choices in Distiller, not Exchange, and your primary concern would be graphics compression. ZIP-8 is lossless, so it won't affect the data in your graphics, but might result in smaller PDF sizes. It should be perfectly safe to use. You'd also want to ensure that all fonts are embedded and not subsetted. The best way I know to test this is to open the PDF on another machine that doesn't have the used fonts installed and see if you can edit the text in Exchange. Our main goal is >printing our program and not file size. > >Todd Donahue wrote---------------- > >If the files contain color, they can be color separated/output by using >a plug-in to Acrobat (formerly known as Exchange). > >Yes, it does contain graphics created with Corel Draw 8, saved as .tiff >format and inserted in Microsoft Word 97. Also, I am not sure what you >mean about "...color separated/output...". > >Thanks again for reply. > >Robert Richard >Eastern Canada. > >_ >____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ ><- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> > <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> >___________________________________________________________ > > Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 17-Jun-1999 14:50:44-GMT,1980;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA14571 for ; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 08:50:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA27246; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 09:46:25 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 17 Jun 1999 09:45:11 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA27102; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 09:45:09 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990615130036.008e8b50@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 13:00:36 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] Once again... font embedding In-Reply-To: <199906142303.QAA34256@mail.inficad.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ > >I tried to replicate this on the Mac, and I couldn't get it to do what you >got on the PC. Must be a Windoze thing. > Sigh. Windows. What's to say? Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 17-Jun-1999 15:01:37-GMT,3050;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA14891 for ; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 09:01:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA28506; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 09:56:05 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 17 Jun 1999 09:54:17 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA28214; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 09:54:16 -0500 Message-Id: <199906171454.HAA55453@mail.inficad.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 07:54:13 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF & Printing Press From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ > You'd make compression choices in Distiller, not Exchange, and your primary > concern would be graphics compression. ZIP-8 is lossless, so it won't > affect the data in your graphics, but might result in smaller PDF sizes. > It should be perfectly safe to use. You'd also want to ensure that all > fonts are embedded and not subsetted. The best way I know to test this is > to open the PDF on another machine that doesn't have the used fonts > installed and see if you can edit the text in Exchange. Steve, if I'm not mistaken, this chap's goal is to send a file to someone else and make sure it prints correctly. I never did get a reply back if that meant Docutech, offset, or inkjet. If that is, indeed, the case -- exact match -- then he does want to make sure and *subset* the embedded fonts. This is the default in Distiller 4x for Print and Press Optimization. The default for Screen Optimize is not to embed...one needs to look carefully at the fonts and decide if they want a small file size and lookalike fonts, or slightly larger size and matching fonts. Rich ---------------------------------------------------------------- Rich Sprague PDF Solutions/Consulting (480) 860-0050 Print Management & Production richsprague@inficad.com 4-Color Digital Printing *38* years experience Sheetfed & Web Printing ---------------------------------------------------------------- _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 17-Jun-1999 15:37:39-GMT,2585;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA16034 for ; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 09:37:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA32588; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 10:30:13 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 17 Jun 1999 10:21:57 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA31585; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 10:21:56 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990617112458.009039a0@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 11:24:58 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF & Printing Press In-Reply-To: <199906171454.HAA55453@mail.inficad.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ >If that is, indeed, the case -- exact match -- then he does want to make >sure and *subset* the embedded fonts. This is the default in Distiller 4x >for Print and Press Optimization. The default for Screen Optimize is not to >embed...one needs to look carefully at the fonts and decide if they want a >small file size and lookalike fonts, or slightly larger size and matching >fonts. > Assuming file size isn't an issue (and the addition of a moderate number of fully embedded fonts won't have that much of an impact on size anyhow) what would be the advantage in subsetting vs. full embedding, Rich? Or are we talking at cross purposes? I'd want to put the whole font in the PDF as insurance ... in case somebody noticed a typo at the last minute or whatever. Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 17-Jun-1999 15:45:16-GMT,3177;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA16283 for ; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 09:45:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA01028; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 10:39:03 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 17 Jun 1999 10:37:52 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA00909; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 10:37:49 -0500 Message-Id: <199906171537.IAA65073@mail.inficad.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 08:37:44 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF & Printing Press From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ > >>If that is, indeed, the case -- exact match -- then he does want to make >>sure and *subset* the embedded fonts. This is the default in Distiller 4x >>for Print and Press Optimization. The default for Screen Optimize is not to >>embed...one needs to look carefully at the fonts and decide if they want a >>small file size and lookalike fonts, or slightly larger size and matching >>fonts. >> > > Assuming file size isn't an issue (and the addition of a moderate number of > fully embedded fonts won't have that much of an impact on size anyhow) what > would be the advantage in subsetting vs. full embedding, Rich? Or are we > talking at cross purposes? > > I'd want to put the whole font in the PDF as insurance ... in case somebody > noticed a typo at the last minute or whatever. > Even if the full font is embedded, the person editing would have to have a copy of that same font on his machine. If the person does not have that font, then we're talking about issues of font licensing. This is where it gets sticky/tricky. I don't think we can suggest that it's *okay* to share fonts. > > Steve Rindsberg > President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau > http://www.rdpslides.com Rich ---------------------------------------------------------------- Rich Sprague PDF Solutions/Consulting (480) 860-0050 Print Management & Production richsprague@inficad.com 4-Color Digital Printing *38* years experience Sheetfed & Web Printing ---------------------------------------------------------------- _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 17-Jun-1999 16:04:25-GMT,3930;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA16938 for ; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 10:04:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA03378; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 10:58:55 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 17 Jun 1999 10:56:52 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA03075; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 10:56:50 -0500 Message-ID: <005701beb8d9$73d4ea20$466564c8@ntplx.net> From: "Michael Abrahamson" To: References: <3.0.5.32.19990617112458.009039a0@pop.iglou.com> Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF & Printing Press Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 11:52:50 -0400 Organization: Liturgical Publications MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ >From the responses I've been getting and the experience I've had, embedding the fonts is still no guarantee that the end-user will be able to edit the typos and retain the original font. I would be elated if this was possible, but so far it seems that to edit the text you must unembed the font. Once that is done then the font is no longer available to the document unless it is installed on the system. So as long as your end-users have the same installed fonts, then you would be fine... otherwise... phooey. Mike Abrahamson Liturgical Publications ----- Original Message ----- From: Steve Rindsberg To: Sent: Thursday, June 17, 1999 11:24 AM Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF & Printing Press > > The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM > _________________________________________________________ > > >If that is, indeed, the case -- exact match -- then he does want to make > >sure and *subset* the embedded fonts. This is the default in Distiller 4x > >for Print and Press Optimization. The default for Screen Optimize is not to > >embed...one needs to look carefully at the fonts and decide if they want a > >small file size and lookalike fonts, or slightly larger size and matching > >fonts. > > > > Assuming file size isn't an issue (and the addition of a moderate number of > fully embedded fonts won't have that much of an impact on size anyhow) what > would be the advantage in subsetting vs. full embedding, Rich? Or are we > talking at cross purposes? > > I'd want to put the whole font in the PDF as insurance ... in case somebody > noticed a typo at the last minute or whatever. > > > Steve Rindsberg > President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau > http://www.rdpslides.com > > Developers of ZAP! > Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus > http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm > _ > ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ > <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> > <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> > ___________________________________________________________ > _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 17-Jun-1999 16:14:11-GMT,5121;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA17215 for ; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 10:14:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA04775; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 11:08:08 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 17 Jun 1999 11:06:51 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA04482; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 11:06:46 -0500 Message-ID: <006501beb8db$0e7eeb60$466564c8@ntplx.net> From: "Michael Abrahamson" To: References: <199906171537.IAA65073@mail.inficad.com> Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF & Printing Press Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 12:04:19 -0400 Organization: Liturgical Publications MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ Here we go with the font licensing again. The problem with this whole argument of whether it should be "moral" or "legal" to share fonts seems to forget that the font is only contained within the document. Embedding the font as part of the document does not allow another person to extract the font and install it on their own system. Now I know people will jump on that statement and say "but there is a way if someone wanted to do it." Well, there's a way to steal a car, too, if you wanted to do it. The average person and end-user doesn't want to "steal" the font or even have any clue how to do it. The purpose of distributing a document these days is changing rapidly. No longer are we content to read typos and static data. Everything we do is interactive and evolving. Numbers change, ideas grow, people get fired... it's the way of the information age. If embedding a font in a document for the sake of ensuring that document can grow and change without affecting its form and layout is criminal then we must declare the information age "Criminally Insane." my 2 cents Mike Abrahamson ----- Original Message ----- From: Rich Sprague To: Sent: Thursday, June 17, 1999 11:37 AM Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF & Printing Press > > The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM > _________________________________________________________ > > > > >>If that is, indeed, the case -- exact match -- then he does want to make > >>sure and *subset* the embedded fonts. This is the default in Distiller 4x > >>for Print and Press Optimization. The default for Screen Optimize is not to > >>embed...one needs to look carefully at the fonts and decide if they want a > >>small file size and lookalike fonts, or slightly larger size and matching > >>fonts. > >> > > > > Assuming file size isn't an issue (and the addition of a moderate number of > > fully embedded fonts won't have that much of an impact on size anyhow) what > > would be the advantage in subsetting vs. full embedding, Rich? Or are we > > talking at cross purposes? > > > > I'd want to put the whole font in the PDF as insurance ... in case somebody > > noticed a typo at the last minute or whatever. > > > > Even if the full font is embedded, the person editing would have to have a > copy of that same font on his machine. If the person does not have that > font, then we're talking about issues of font licensing. This is where it > gets sticky/tricky. > > I don't think we can suggest that it's *okay* to share fonts. > > > > > Steve Rindsberg > > President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau > > http://www.rdpslides.com > > Rich > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > Rich Sprague PDF Solutions/Consulting > (480) 860-0050 Print Management & Production > richsprague@inficad.com 4-Color Digital Printing > *38* years experience Sheetfed & Web Printing > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > > _ > ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ > <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> > <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> > ___________________________________________________________ _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 17-Jun-1999 16:36:27-GMT,3213;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA17878 for ; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 10:36:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA07102; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 11:32:04 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 17 Jun 1999 11:30:22 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA06835; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 11:30:21 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] PDF & Printing Press Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 17:30:00 +0100 Message-ID: <002c01beb8de$a6308240$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <006501beb8db$0e7eeb60$466564c8@ntplx.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ > Here we go with the font licensing again. The problem with this whole > argument of whether it should be "moral" or "legal" to share > fonts seems to forget that the font is only contained within the document.... Others may have observed that moral and legal aren't always exactly the same. Still other people have observed that you must NEVER generalise. The issue, which many people find so inconvenient, is that fonts are licensed, like software. Each font potentially has a different license for you to read, accept, and honour. The law does not recognise that having to read a lot of contracts is a reason not to. So...some fonts are licensed for embedding in PDF files; some aren't. Some fonts are licensed for embedding in PDF files, only if they are subsetted. Some fonts might be licensed for sending to service bureaus, too, but I haven't heard of any commercial fonts that are. The law is often slow to keep up with technological change, but it's still there. And the law is only really an enforcer in this case: what matters is a (possibly arbitrary) decision made by the font creator - who, as copyright holder, has complete freedom to do that. If you find it inconvenient, your only legal recourses are to use a different font, and/or to make your opinions known to the copyright holders. Just as if you had chosen to use a particular illustration, and the permission to use it was too restrictive for your liking. Anyway, that's how I see it. Aandi _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 17-Jun-1999 16:39:18-GMT,5413;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA17941 for ; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 10:39:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA07475; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 11:35:23 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 17 Jun 1999 11:34:16 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA07338; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 11:34:13 -0500 Message-Id: <199906171634.JAA78426@mail.inficad.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 09:34:07 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF & Printing Press From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ > From the responses I've been getting and the experience I've had, embedding > the fonts is still no guarantee that the end-user will be able to edit the > typos and retain the original font. This is true. > I would be elated if this was possible, > but so far it seems that to edit the text you must unembed the font. No, to edit the text it's proper to have the font embedded, but the user needs the fonts. It's a simple matter of font licensing, and protection for the foundaries (that's the term used when fonts were made out of metal, instead of digits). Whether it's a PDF file, or a Quark doc, one can't edit the characters unless the font is installed on the system doing the editing. If you unembed a nice font like Garamond, you will now have a Multiple Master serif font in its place. You can see this clearly on p67 of the Acrobat User's Guide. > Once that is done then the font is no longer available to the document unless > it is installed on the system. So as long as your end-users have the same > installed fonts, then you would be fine... otherwise... phooey. That's the way it is. > Mike Abrahamson > Liturgical Publications Embedding, without subsetting, allows me to create a document in Adobe's Goudy font, and you will view the doc with that version of Goudy without the font being on your system. If you do not embed, and open the file with no version of Goudy on your system, then you see the lookalike created by Adobe's Multiple Master technology. Finally, if you do not embed and have Agfa's Goudy installed on your machine you will see the doc in Agfa's Goudy, which has different font characteristics. Subsetting means that no matter what fonts you have on your system, the document will look exactly like I created it. --------------- Ah, ha. I can see from your next thread where this whole conversation is going. You're challenging the concept of font licensing/use. Here is Adobe's official position: When is it legal to embed typefaces into documents? Adobe permits embedding certain typefaces into documents for the purpose of viewing and printing only. Documents with embedded typefaces may not be edited unless the typefaces embedded are licensed to and installed on the computer doing the editing. *The reason for this is that editing the file adds value to the file.* For this, the customer is obtaining value from the typefaces and is therefore required to have a valid license for the typefaces. In general, embedding certain typefaces is legal if the typefaces are embedded but cannot be used to edit documents or accessed as typefaces for use in other documents. Printing to a PostScript-language file and embedding typefaces into PDF files are legal ways to embed typefaces. Sending typefaces on floppies along with print jobs is not legal, since they can be installed and used as typefaces in other documents. -------------- Note, the sentence marked by (*). They aren't worried that someone will steal the font from the PDF, they want to be PAID for additional use. I don't think all the pontificating in the world is going to change this. Mike, the font makers have been lowering prices of fonts over the years...let's don't force them into raising prices for those of us who purchase fonts, so other users can gain benefit with cost to them. It's time to give this issue a rest, and move on to something that we can change or make positive contributions to. Rich ---------------------------------------------------------------- Rich Sprague PDF Solutions/Consulting (480) 860-0050 Print Management & Production richsprague@inficad.com 4-Color Digital Printing *38* years experience Sheetfed & Web Printing ---------------------------------------------------------------- _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 17-Jun-1999 16:41:16-GMT,2156;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA18012 for ; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 10:41:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA07622; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 11:36:58 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 17 Jun 1999 11:35:51 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA07492; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 11:35:49 -0500 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 17:32:10 +0100 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: ron Subject: Re: [PDF] Field icon References: <002001beb8cb$42b9d760$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> In-Reply-To: <002001beb8cb$42b9d760$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 4.02 M Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ In message <002001beb8cb$42b9d760$510b83c1@dan.quite.com>, mailto:Aandi Inston writes > >The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM >_________________________________________________________ > >> The field icon has gone from the toolbar in Exchange > >What platform are you on (e.g. Windows 98)? Windows NT> >What version of Exchange (e.g. 3.01)? Yes >Did you download and install the forms author recently? >Did you download and install the forms filler recently? Yes to both> -- regards Ron _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 17-Jun-1999 17:07:39-GMT,4110;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA18805 for ; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 11:07:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA09753; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 11:55:54 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 17 Jun 1999 11:54:36 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA09583; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 11:54:32 -0500 Message-Id: <199906171654.JAA82888@mail.inficad.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 09:54:28 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF & Printing Press From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ >> Here we go with the font licensing again. The problem with this whole >> argument of whether it should be "moral" or "legal" to share >> fonts seems to forget that the font is only contained within the >> document.... > > So...some fonts are licensed for embedding in PDF files; some > aren't. Some fonts are licensed for embedding in PDF files, only > if they are subsetted. Some fonts might be licensed for sending > to service bureaus, too, but I haven't heard of any commercial fonts > that are. > > The law is often slow to keep up with technological change, but it's > still there. And the law is only really an enforcer in this case: > what matters is a (possibly arbitrary) decision made by the > font creator - who, as copyright holder, has complete freedom to > do that. If you find it inconvenient, your only legal recourses are > to use a different font, and/or to make your opinions known to > the copyright holders. Just as if you had chosen to use a > particular illustration, and the permission to use it was > too restrictive for your liking. > > Anyway, that's how I see it. > > Aandi Aandi. This is my *final* comment on this thread. I think. I hope. Thank you for your perspective as a developer. Yours is a very fair, straightforward analysis, and from a different, but very relevant, point of view. I'm now glad to understand what all of this bantering has been about. I had totally misread the purpose of this post until the last two threads, when it became clear that font licensing was the real issue. ---(Sorry folks, in my last thread I left out, "out". It does make a ---difference as to the point I was making). ---Mike, the font makers have been lowering prices of fonts over the ---years...let's don't force them into raising prices for those of us who ---purchase fonts, so other users can gain benefit with(out) cost to them. One final comment about the law. I am a part-time hearing officer in a small claims court, so I listen to people's disputes on a weekly basis, and my father has practiced law for umpteen million years. ---Laws are rules to protect us from chaos. Goodbye. Rich ---------------------------------------------------------------- Rich Sprague PDF Solutions/Consulting (480) 860-0050 Print Management & Production richsprague@inficad.com 4-Color Digital Printing *38* years experience Sheetfed & Web Printing ---------------------------------------------------------------- _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 17-Jun-1999 17:16:15-GMT,2087;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA19092 for ; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 11:16:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA11503; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 12:11:34 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 17 Jun 1999 12:08:42 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA11170; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 12:08:41 -0500 Message-ID: From: Duff Johnson To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Tiff to PDF Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 10:12:36 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ Rich: > But I suspect that some people are using Capture as an > alternative to simply > printing a PostScript file and then distilling. Or, for > simple documents, > using the PDF Writer. No-one will use Capture this way (or I certainly hope not!). Capture is ONLY for processing of TIF images as generated by a scanner. Rasterizing and/or printing an existing electronic document in order to Capture it would be a phenomenal waste of time and money. Duff Johnson President, Document Solutions, Inc. http://www.document-solutions.com _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 17-Jun-1999 17:18:36-GMT,4686;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA19149 for ; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 11:18:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA11817; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 12:14:07 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 17 Jun 1999 12:11:36 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA11508; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 12:11:35 -0500 Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 10:13:02 -0700 Message-Id: <199906171713.KAA21778@aladdin.com> From: "L. Peter Deutsch" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com In-reply-to: <199906171634.JAA78426@mail.inficad.com> (richsprague@inficad.com) Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF & Printing Press References: <199906171634.JAA78426@mail.inficad.com> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ > Adobe permits embedding certain typefaces into documents for the purpose > of viewing and printing only. Documents with embedded typefaces may not be > edited unless the typefaces embedded are licensed to and installed on the > computer doing the editing. *The reason for this is that editing the file > adds value to the file.* For this, the customer is obtaining value from > the typefaces and is therefore required to have a valid license for the > typefaces. In the United States and some other countries, the shapes of fonts (as opposed to the "font programs" that generate them) cannot be copyrighted. In such countries, it is my understanding that Adobe cannot forbid you to print a PDF file and scan in the resulting printed document, or possibly to display a PDF file and capture the screen image as pixels, and then do whatever you want with the result, including mark it up, edit it (to the extent that you can do that usefully just working with pixels), etc. Quite apart from the legalities, it's technically feasible to take a document with embedded typefaces, process it to substitute other typefaces for those typefaces (but retaining the character spacings, which, even though they are embedded, are also freely available for a tremendous variety of fonts), edit the resulting document to your heart's content, send the edited document to someone who does have licensed copies of those typefaces, and reprocess the document to put them back in (or just use the unembedded licensed copies). No step in this process contravenes Adobe's statement. The person doing the editing won't see exactly the same thing as the final recipient, but they'll be able to edit the document with confidence that the layout will be the same. And, depending on what typefaces the editor substitutes, the document might look quite close to its final form. Neither of these approaches gets you all the way to being able to edit a document with embedded fonts, but they may be helpful in some situations. Personally, I think Adobe's argument about "adding value" is questionable in the sweeping form in which they make it. If you make minor edits to a file, especially if it's only for personal (as opposed to commercial) use, a court might well find that this fell within the "fair use" provisions of copyright law. On the other hand, the recent trend in copyright law has been to whittle away the "fair use" concept and to lock up material that by long tradition should be available to the public. (The repeated lengthening of copyright term, currently at "life of author + 70 years" as opposed to "28 years renewable once for another 28" less than a generation ago, is a striking example of this perversion of the purpose of copyright.) And the trend also has been to uphold contract and license provisions that deprive the weaker party of statutory protections. YMMV -- consult an attorney if it's important. -- L. Peter Deutsch | Aladdin Enterprises :::: ghost@aladdin.com 203 Santa Margarita Ave. | tel. +1-650-322-0103 (AM only); fax +1-650-322-1734 Menlo Park, CA 94025 | http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~ghost/index.html _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 17-Jun-1999 17:33:19-GMT,2667;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA19607 for ; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 11:33:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA13081; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 12:28:08 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 17 Jun 1999 12:25:33 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA12711; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 12:25:32 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Field icon Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 18:25:18 +0100 Message-ID: <003101beb8e6$5f1d57e0$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ > > > >The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM > >_________________________________________________________ > > > >> The field icon has gone from the toolbar in Exchange > > > >What platform are you on (e.g. Windows 98)? > Windows NT> > > >What version of Exchange (e.g. 3.01)? > Yes > > >Did you download and install the forms author recently? > >Did you download and install the forms filler recently? > > Yes to both> That is the problem. If you install the forms filler to Exchange, you are left with only a forms filler...nothing else. If you want to create forms, you must install the forms author. The forms author can fill forms too. The forms filler is usually used only with Acrobat Reader (and should not be used with Reader 3.02 or 4.0, which have a later version). To fix this, remove the AFILL32.API -and- AFORM32.API files from the plug-ins folder, and reinstall the forms author to that folder. Aandi _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 17-Jun-1999 20:41:48-GMT,2327;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA25398 for ; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 14:41:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA30417; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 15:31:49 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 17 Jun 1999 15:30:44 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA30291; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 15:30:42 -0500 Message-Id: <199906172030.PAA30286@everglades.binc.net> Date: 17 Jun 99 16:30:40 -0400 From: Roberta Pavol Subject: [PDF] automating links/pdfmarks? To: PDF email list X-Mailer: QuickMail Pro 1.5.3 (Mac) X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-Ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id PAA30287 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ Memo Subjectutomating links/pdfmarks? 6/17/99 4:24 PM Is it possible through pdfmarks (or other means) to have a link created to open another file. The link would be drawn everyplace certain text appears in a file. These would be Quark files and the case I'm talking about is if the text See XYZ Reference Manual appears on a page in a document, then a link is created to open another file. This may not be possible since I may need the actual coordinates and the location of this text on the page will vary from page to page. This would be to eliminate searching a document for this text and then manually drawing a link. Thanks in advance. Roberta Pavol _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 17-Jun-1999 20:41:53-GMT,7032;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA25405 for ; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 14:41:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA30376; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 15:31:10 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 17 Jun 1999 15:28:32 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA30084; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 15:28:31 -0500 Content-return: allowed Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 14:25:56 -0600 From: "Hagar, Laura M" Subject: RE: [PDF] Tiff to PDF To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ Andi, Couldn't let this one go by without interjecting my $.02 worth. I'm the one Rich has been helping out. And, quite a LOT of help he has been too! THANKS RICH! First, our process: We convert some documents (originals in Interleaf, Word, PowerPoint, Excel) to pdf by using PDFWriter--against Adobe's advice. We found a process that works. Distiller gaves us so many problems (some Interleaf files just don't distill!!), it was either use PDFWriter and deliver or tell the customer we couldn't deliver pdf files. Not an option. Then, we have MANY vendor documents that we scan. (Yes, we get copyright release from the vendors to scan their documents.) We now have over 200 vendor documents--some scanned, some received in pdfs. The ones we have to scan, we scan straight into pdf using Exchange or Acrobat. (My lead is using Acrobat 4.0 on an NT box. I use Exchange 3.01 on a WIN95 box......there's a LONG story about that too.) Distilling an Acrobat scanned file isn't an option---unless I'm missing something. Scanner Setttings: There are no extra configuration settings for Exchange/Acrobat--that we are aware of. The products use HP Deskscan (another scanning product to produce tiffs.). Interestingly, Exchange uses ISIS drivers for scanning. Acrobat uses TWAIN drivers for scanning. About all we can do is select the correct driver for our scanner, set the dpi we want to use (normally 400 for text--gives smoother, better text readings), and the page size. Almost all of this is set in HPDeskscan. Acrobat allows us to select a scanner. Rich has been helping us to try to refine our process and see how we can improve it. Now to Capture. . . We have been using the Capture plug-in with Exchange on the Win95 box and it usually works "peachy keen"--1 page, 5 pages, 10 pages, even 20 pages--fine! Then, when we got the NT box and Acrobat 4.0, we found that if we used the Capture plug-in (on these scanned files), Adobe created a corrupt pdf file. Rich saw that too. (I mailed him some of the files) >> I'd personally like to beat up the programmer(s) who put that into the code! Adobe says we should purchase their full blown Capture product, but we have some problems with that resolution. First, a cost control issue: How many $595 licenses (for every 20,000 pages captured) would we have to buy in a year? (I may capture a 200 + page file several times due to changes or additions to the file. Add that up. . . ) If the plug-in doesn't work, what guarantee do we have that the $995 product would work any better than the FREE plug-in? Then what option do we have? Adobe "refined" the Capture plug-in from 3.01 to 4.0--obviously, otherwise, we wouldn't be getting corrupt pdf files. And, BTW, Rich suggested a method to fix the corrupt files. . . . .Rich it doesn't work. Sorry. We tried. I'm happy to work with anyone to arrive at a process that is quick, convenient, and effective--cost-wise as well as what makes our customer happy. Thanks Rich and Andi. (Rich, I'm up to my eyeballs in lawyers still! I haven't forgotten to reply to your last 3 emails.) Laura M. Hagar L-245 Documentation Lockheed Martin Astronautics > ---------- > From: Aandi Inston[SMTP:quite@dial.pipex.com] > Reply To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Sent: Thursday, June 17, 1999 8:16 AM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: RE: [PDF] Tiff to PDF > > > The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM > _________________________________________________________ > > > In particular, one writer was having major problems with > > Capture and I have > > spent several hours trying to help her. This was with basic, > > I mean plain > > vanilla, text. > > > > I took a simple document, with 10 pt. Times which had been > > output on my 800 > > dpi laser printer, and scanned it. I was surprised at how > > slow the process > > was, and how many of the lines required TouchUp. Is this > > normal? I even > > scanned at 600 dpi. > > If this did not work, the chances are that attention is needed > to the scanner settings. This is the single most important > factor in OCR (assuming a reasonable original), and the one > most often overlooked. > > Scan a page to Photoshop (or whatever) and examine it very closely > at high magnification. Try to imagine the job an OCR program > has to do in picking out letters. > > Are the letters clear? Well defined? Sharp edges? Not broken > up? > > Is the background (paper) empty? No noise or dust? > > These can usually be addressed in the scanner settings, but > people who want the best results often scan to Photoshop > NOT Acrobat, and check/retouch each original before passing > it to Acrobat (through a TIFF file). > > > But I suspect that some people are using Capture as an > > alternative to simply > > printing a PostScript file and then distilling. Or, for > > simple documents, > > using the PDF Writer. > > This is a terrible mistake, but I have seen cases where > people learn only one thing about Acrobat, and assume that's > all there is. Whatever that one thing is, it is sure to > be the wrong one for the job they want to do. > > > Aandi > _ > ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ > <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> > <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> > ___________________________________________________________ > _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 17-Jun-1999 20:50:51-GMT,3450;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA25627 for ; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 14:50:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA31911; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 15:46:01 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 17 Jun 1999 15:44:41 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA31774; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 15:44:39 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Tiff to PDF Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 21:44:30 +0100 Message-ID: <000001beb902$33c0d060$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ > Scanner Setttings: > There are no extra configuration settings for > Exchange/Acrobat--that we are > aware of. The products use HP Deskscan (another scanning > product to produce > tiffs.). Interestingly, Exchange uses ISIS drivers for > scanning. Acrobat > uses TWAIN drivers for scanning. About all we can do is > select the correct > driver for our scanner, set the dpi we want to use (normally 400 for > text--gives smoother, better text readings), and the page > size. Almost all > of this is set in HPDeskscan. Acrobat allows us to select a scanner. This, surely, is the problem. Any decent scanner should give control over things like contrast. All originals are not created equal. Hold up a glossy magazine next to a newspaper. Both of these are what we call "white" but the colour is very different. It is essential to adjust your scans to get the best from your original. It is easiest to adjust settings before scanning; if necessary you'll have to scan as greyscale, adjust in a program, and save as a monochrome TIFF. I haven't used the software you mention, but I presume there must be a way to adjust scanner settings. I'd say fairly definitely that if you are scanning ORIGINALS made on a 600 DPI laser printer in a common, clear, font, written in the English language and with no fancy formulae, etc. then you should be able to get very close to 100% success. Each variation in this may reduce the success, but I was able to get plausible results scanning a 150 year old book, on browing pages, with 8 point type, cheaply printed. If I could get anything at all out of that, you can do better! Don't change the OCR software (yet). Work on the scanning aspect. Aandi _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 17-Jun-1999 21:03:24-GMT,3311;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA26073 for ; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 15:03:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA00461; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 15:57:36 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 17 Jun 1999 15:56:25 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA00288; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 15:56:23 -0500 From: "Scott Hamlow" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] automating links/pdfmarks? Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 13:55:40 -0700 Message-ID: <001001beb903$c2545620$45a2fecc@scotth.fourgen.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2232.26 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <199906172030.PAA30286@everglades.binc.net> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ I don't know if Quark supports pdfmarks or not, but if I were doing it in Frame, I'd create a PS text frame with the pdfmarks that define the exact size of the link (link placement is relative to the text frame). Then put that text frame in an anchored frame, resize the anchored frame to be really small (.01" or so), copy the anchored frame, then do a search for that word or phrase and paste the anchored frame. You can also do this using hypertext markers in Frame, but that makes the whole paragraph hot. The above method allows you to specify the exact size of the hot spot. Contact me offline if you want further info. ------------------------------------ Scott Hamlow Technical Writer - New Technologies HK Systems, Inc. Seattle, Washington USA http://www.hksystems.com mailto:scott.hamlow@hksystems.com 206.517.6487 ------------------------------------ > -----Original Message----- > From: Roberta Pavol > Is it possible through pdfmarks (or other means) to have a link > created to open another file. The link would be drawn everyplace > certain text appears in a file. These would be Quark files and the > case I'm talking about is if the text > > See XYZ Reference Manual > appears on a page in a document, then a link is created to open another file. > > This may not be possible since I may need the actual coordinates and > the location of this text on the page will vary from page to page. > > This would be to eliminate searching a document for this text and > then manually drawing a link. > > Thanks in advance. > > Roberta Pavol _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 17-Jun-1999 21:07:56-GMT,7495;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA26175 for ; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 15:07:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA01143; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 16:03:06 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 17 Jun 1999 16:01:49 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA00968; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 16:01:48 -0500 Message-ID: <00bc01beb904$1aaff720$466564c8@ntplx.net> From: "Michael Abrahamson" To: References: <199906171634.JAA78426@mail.inficad.com> <199906171713.KAA21778@aladdin.com> Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF & Printing Press Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 16:58:09 -0400 Organization: Liturgical Publications MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ The point of my original thread was simply to gather opinions on the most reliable way to generate PDF documents with the objective being exact layout, fonts, etc. The added ability to make late-stage edits to these documents would add value, but on an extremely limited basis. Is this value enough to restrict the fonts? I would say no, and I know that many people, including the foundries and Aandi would disagree with me. Obviously by adopting PDF we would be giving up the ability to change whatever we want according to page layout, text formatting, etc. But the suggestion that editing text in uninstalled fonts adds value enough to restrict the fonts themselves is laughable. Even with the fonts installed I wouldn't be able to accuse anyone of having editing capability within a PDF document. Fixing a few typos doesn't constitute editing capability. In my opinion, editing goes far beyond changing a "t" to a "y". Editing includes format changes, document layout, reflow of paragraphs, etc. Since Acrobat doesn't support this then I would say that restricting the font embedding is an unnecessary measure. If all I want to do is change a "t" to a "y" then should I be forced to buy the entire character set for that font if it is not already installed on my system? If I was a typical end user with little to no knowledge of font licensing issues, should I be forced to go through the rigmarole of having to contact the document provider/creator and tell them to change their content to accommodate my fonts? It is not a matter of inconvenience at this point, it is a matter of absurdity. Bottom line: In my opinion, Acrobat doesn't allow enough editing capability for font foundries to be concerned with font embedding. Obviously my opinion is not reality... reality is the almighty $$. Mike Abrahamson (hoping we can move on as well) ----- Original Message ----- From: L. Peter Deutsch To: Sent: Thursday, June 17, 1999 1:13 PM Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF & Printing Press > > The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM > _________________________________________________________ > > > Adobe permits embedding certain typefaces into documents for the purpose > > of viewing and printing only. Documents with embedded typefaces may not be > > edited unless the typefaces embedded are licensed to and installed on the > > computer doing the editing. *The reason for this is that editing the file > > adds value to the file.* For this, the customer is obtaining value from > > the typefaces and is therefore required to have a valid license for the > > typefaces. > > In the United States and some other countries, the shapes of fonts (as > opposed to the "font programs" that generate them) cannot be copyrighted. > In such countries, it is my understanding that Adobe cannot forbid you to > print a PDF file and scan in the resulting printed document, or possibly to > display a PDF file and capture the screen image as pixels, and then do > whatever you want with the result, including mark it up, edit it (to the > extent that you can do that usefully just working with pixels), etc. > > Quite apart from the legalities, it's technically feasible to take a > document with embedded typefaces, process it to substitute other typefaces > for those typefaces (but retaining the character spacings, which, even > though they are embedded, are also freely available for a tremendous variety > of fonts), edit the resulting document to your heart's content, send the > edited document to someone who does have licensed copies of those typefaces, > and reprocess the document to put them back in (or just use the unembedded > licensed copies). No step in this process contravenes Adobe's statement. > The person doing the editing won't see exactly the same thing as the final > recipient, but they'll be able to edit the document with confidence that the > layout will be the same. And, depending on what typefaces the editor > substitutes, the document might look quite close to its final form. > > Neither of these approaches gets you all the way to being able to edit a > document with embedded fonts, but they may be helpful in some situations. > > Personally, I think Adobe's argument about "adding value" is questionable in > the sweeping form in which they make it. If you make minor edits to a file, > especially if it's only for personal (as opposed to commercial) use, a court > might well find that this fell within the "fair use" provisions of copyright > law. On the other hand, the recent trend in copyright law has been to > whittle away the "fair use" concept and to lock up material that by long > tradition should be available to the public. (The repeated lengthening of > copyright term, currently at "life of author + 70 years" as opposed to "28 > years renewable once for another 28" less than a generation ago, is a > striking example of this perversion of the purpose of copyright.) And the > trend also has been to uphold contract and license provisions that deprive > the weaker party of statutory protections. > > YMMV -- consult an attorney if it's important. > > -- > > L. Peter Deutsch | Aladdin Enterprises :::: ghost@aladdin.com > 203 Santa Margarita Ave. | tel. +1-650-322-0103 (AM only); fax +1-650-322-1734 > Menlo Park, CA 94025 | http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~ghost/index.html > _ > ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ > <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> > <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> > ___________________________________________________________ _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 17-Jun-1999 21:14:22-GMT,4717;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA26359 for ; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 15:14:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA01652; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 16:07:43 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 17 Jun 1999 16:06:27 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA01458; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 16:06:21 -0500 Message-ID: From: Duff Johnson To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Tiff to PDF Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 14:10:12 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ Laura: > Distilling an Acrobat scanned file isn't an option---unless > I'm missing > something. For PDF/Normal conversions, print-to-PS and re-distill is sometimes an important option, FYI. > Scanner Setttings: > There are no extra configuration settings for > Exchange/Acrobat--that we are > aware of. The products use HP Deskscan (another scanning > product to produce > tiffs.). Interestingly, Exchange uses ISIS drivers for > scanning. Acrobat > uses TWAIN drivers for scanning. About all we can do is > select the correct > driver for our scanner, set the dpi we want to use (normally 400 for > text--gives smoother, better text readings), and the page > size. Almost all > of this is set in HPDeskscan. Acrobat allows us to select a scanner. If the scanner control dialogs are really that limited, your solution is different hardware / scanner control software and training. What you've described is unacceptable scanner control for Capturing purposes! We think of the process of Capturing in two DISTINCT steps, to wit: 1) Scanning to TIF (there is no such thing as "scanning to PDF") 2) Processing the TIF to PDF Understanding the process this way is essential for consistant, high quality results. > Now to Capture. . . > We have been using the Capture plug-in with Exchange on the > Win95 box and it > usually works "peachy keen"--1 page, 5 pages, 10 pages, even > 20 pages--fine! > Then, when we got the NT box and Acrobat 4.0, we found that > if we used the > Capture plug-in (on these scanned files), Adobe created a > corrupt pdf file. > Rich saw that too. (I mailed him some of the files) > >> I'd personally like to beat up the programmer(s) who put > that into the > code! Hey! You're talking about friends of mine! The Capture plug in does NOT create "corrupt" PDF files as it's standard operation! There may be a disk problem, you may have a bad install, a Micro$oft install stepping on your DLLs, all kinds of things. > Adobe says we should purchase their full blown Capture > product, but we have > some problems with that resolution. > First, a cost control issue: How many $595 licenses (for > every 20,000 pages > captured) would we have to buy in a year? > (I may capture a 200 + page file several times due to changes > or additions > to the file. Add that up. . . ) Where are you making the changes that inspire you to re-Capture the 200 page file? Remember that you can always append and/or replace pages in a PDF -- no need to Capture the whole thing again unless you have a versioning requirement of some kind. And... if you do, you most likely have the document electronically, eliminating the need for Capture in the first place. (or what am I missing?) > If the plug-in doesn't work, what guarantee do we have that > the $995 product > would work any better than the FREE plug-in? > Then what option do we have? I'm not convinced the plug-in does not work. However, if you feel that that 3.01 Capture plugin DID work for the same TIFs... why not go back and use that? (or what am I missing...again?) Duff Johnson President, Document Solutions, Inc. http://www.document-solutions.com _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 17-Jun-1999 21:54:18-GMT,2479;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA27705 for ; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 15:54:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA04934; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 16:44:50 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 17 Jun 1999 16:41:57 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA04628; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 16:41:55 -0500 Message-Id: <199906172141.OAA49711@mail.inficad.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 14:41:52 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF & Printing Press From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ > Obviously by adopting PDF we would be giving up the ability to change whatever > we want according to page layout, text formatting, etc. This simply is not true. With PitStop, a full PDF Text Editor from http://www.enfocus.com, you can edit *any* embedded font in a PDF file. The plug-in has many other outstanding features, too. The developer does want $295.00 for their little piece of handiwork, but if convenience and flexibility are an issue, then it's certainly more than worth the price. Rich ---------------------------------------------------------------- Rich Sprague PDF Solutions/Consulting (480) 860-0050 Print Management & Production richsprague@inficad.com 4-Color Digital Printing *38* years experience Sheetfed & Web Printing ---------------------------------------------------------------- _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 17-Jun-1999 21:54:18-GMT,1878;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA27704 for ; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 15:54:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA04928; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 16:44:45 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 17 Jun 1999 16:43:09 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA04768; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 16:43:07 -0500 Message-ID: <37696C5C.106A4AD1@neuro.ki.se> Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 17:45:00 -0400 From: Virgil Stokes X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "pdf@lists.pdfzone.com" Subject: [PDF] Creating PDF's from Word documents? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ I have Adobe Acrobat 3.01 and I have used this software extensively to convert PostScript files to PDF files. It works great. However, I recently received a Word97 file that I would like to convert to PDF. Is that possible with Adobe Acrobat 3.01 running on Windows NT 4.01? -- V. Stokes _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 17-Jun-1999 21:57:51-GMT,2504;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA27804 for ; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 15:57:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA05827; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 16:53:29 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 17 Jun 1999 16:52:22 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA05665; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 16:52:20 -0500 Message-Id: <199906172152.OAA52344@mail.inficad.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 14:52:18 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Creating PDF's from Word documents? From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ > However, I recently received a Word97 file that I would > like to convert to PDF. Is that possible with Adobe Acrobat 3.01 > running on Windows NT 4.01? > > -- V. Stokes Do you have the Word application on your system? You either need to open the file in Word and print to the Distiller, or print a PostScript file and Distill. You could also use the PDF Writer to print the PDF, unless it has EPS graphics included, but you would still need a text editing program which could open the Word document first. Rich ---------------------------------------------------------------- Rich Sprague PDF Solutions/Consulting (480) 860-0050 Print Management & Production richsprague@inficad.com 4-Color Digital Printing *38* years experience Sheetfed & Web Printing ---------------------------------------------------------------- _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 17-Jun-1999 21:57:59-GMT,2464;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA27810 for ; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 15:57:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA05793; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 16:53:15 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 17 Jun 1999 16:52:07 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA05617; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 16:52:05 -0500 Message-ID: <37696DE1.21BC863A@nbnet.nb.ca> Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 18:51:29 -0300 From: Robert Richard X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Pdfzone Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF & Printing Press Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ PDFZone list, Wow! I did not realize that so much responses would be generated by sending my query. With each responses, I learned alot on fonts embedding/subsetting, plus the licensing of fonts. Really appreciate clarifications. First of all, how and where can I check the legalities of each fonts that are embedded or subsetted in my documents. Secondly, Rich Sprague wrote--------------- "...Steve, if I'm not mistaken, this chap's goal is to send a file to someone else and make sure it prints correctly. I never did get a reply back if that meant Docutech, offset, or inkjet..." What would be the definitions of Docutech, offset or inkjet...? To fully understand the dynamic of embedding and subsetting fonts, I will have to ask the Printing Press which type they use. Also, what other types are they...? Any references for reading on web sites, etc. Thanks in advance for reply. Robert Richard. _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 17-Jun-1999 22:22:34-GMT,5443;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA28527 for ; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 16:22:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA08193; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 17:17:59 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 17 Jun 1999 17:16:40 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA08044; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 17:16:38 -0500 Message-Id: <199906172216.PAA58220@mail.inficad.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 15:16:35 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF & Printing Press From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ > PDFZone list, > Wow! I did not realize that so much responses would be generated by > sending my query. > > With each responses, I learned alot on fonts embedding/subsetting, plus > the licensing of fonts. Really appreciate clarifications. First of all, > how and where can I check the legalities of each fonts that are embedded > or subsetted in my documents. Here are excerpts from Adobe's font licensing rules... ---When is it legal to embed typefaces into documents? Adobe permits embedding certain typefaces into documents for the purpose of viewing and printing only. Documents with embedded typefaces may not be edited unless the typefaces embedded are licensed to and installed on the computer doing the editing. The reason for this is that editing the file adds value to the file. For this, the customer is obtaining value from the typefaces and is therefore required to have a valid license for the typefaces. In general, embedding certain typefaces is legal if the typefaces are embedded but cannot be used to edit documents or accessed as typefaces for use in other documents. Printing to a PostScript-language file and embedding typefaces into PDF files are legal ways to embed typefaces. Sending typefaces on floppies along with print jobs is not legal, since they can be installed and used as typefaces in other documents. ---Which typefaces can I embed if I comply with the above rules? Typefaces in the Adobe Type Library that were created by Adobe, Linotype, ITC, Monotype, Agfa, and Fundicion Tipografica Neufville may be embedded in the file with a document for viewing and printing the document. Adobe is negotiating with all its other type foundries to obtain this permission. Until these contracts are final, users must contact the company that originally licensed the typefaces to determine if embedding is legal. > Secondly, > > Rich Sprague wrote--------------- > > "...Steve, if I'm not mistaken, this chap's goal is to send a file to > someone else and make sure it prints correctly. I never did get a reply > back if that meant Docutech, offset, or inkjet..." > > What would be the definitions of Docutech, offset or inkjet...? Docutech is a high-speed laser printer made by Xerox. They are generally found in copy centers. There are other machines such as Agfa's Chromapress that use toners to print 4-color process for short to medium runs without requiring negatives and plates. These processes are for certain type of work only. Offset (printing) is what you get if you go to a local printer and ask for several hundred or thousands of copies to be made. The process requires negatives (created from your PDF file, or through applications like QuarkXPress and Pagemaker) and plates, and use liquid inks. Inkjets are the color printers that most of us now have for simple output. They are made by Canon, Epson, HP and others and, for the most part, do a surprisingly good job. They are slow, however, and not made for high-volume production. > To fully > understand the dynamic of embedding and subsetting fonts, I will have to > ask the Printing Press which type they use. Also, what other types are > they...? Any references for reading on web sites, etc. > > Thanks in advance for reply. > > Robert Richard. I'm sending you privately a document I have written regarding embedding and subsetting fonts. If you have any other questions about how you should approach this project, feel free to e-mail me directly. Rich ---------------------------------------------------------------- Rich Sprague PDF Solutions/Consulting (480) 860-0050 Print Management & Production richsprague@inficad.com 4-Color Digital Printing *38* years experience Sheetfed & Web Printing ---------------------------------------------------------------- _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 17-Jun-1999 23:35:42-GMT,3193;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA00587 for ; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 17:35:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA12775; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 18:26:39 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 17 Jun 1999 18:23:36 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA12609; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 18:23:34 -0500 Message-Id: <199906172323.QAA74640@mail.inficad.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 16:23:31 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF & Printing Press From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ > Offset (printing) is what you get if you go to a local printer and ask for > several hundred or thousands of copies to be made. The process requires > negatives (created from your PDF file, or through applications like > QuarkXPress and Pagemaker) and plates, and use liquid inks. Just to muck things up, places like Postal Instant Press, Alpha Graphics, and others, including one of the shops I work with, also have machines that can make a paper plate, from a paper original. This is what we know as quick printing. Finally, now there is digital imaging which can refer to an assortment of processes. The Chromapress (mentioned in a previous thread) users toners, Indigo uses a liquid ink (which I believe they call oil), and the Heidelberg DI press is an offset press that uses regular printing inks, but through the miracles of modern technology, digital data is ripped from a computer directly onto plates affixed to the cylinders...no negatives, no stripping, no platemaking. In other words, no muss, no fuss. I just thought my last thread, while directly addressing the orignator's concerns, was slightly incomplete. Have a nice day, or if you are in parts of the world where it is dark, a nice night. Rich ---------------------------------------------------------------- Rich Sprague PDF Solutions/Consulting (480) 860-0050 Print Management & Production richsprague@inficad.com 4-Color Digital Printing *38* years experience Sheetfed & Web Printing ---------------------------------------------------------------- _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 18-Jun-1999 0:08:58-GMT,2721;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA01430 for ; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 18:08:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA15157; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 19:03:07 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 17 Jun 1999 19:01:49 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA15035; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 19:01:45 -0500 Message-ID: <524A333ECC0AD3119FC300805F851389534D05@perm02.woodside.com.au> From: "Wraight, David D." To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] converting multiple Word 97 files to PDF Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 08:03:09 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ If your handy with the Visual Basic Editor in Word you could add this to your document to cycle through the currently open documents and print to your printer - make sure that the PDFWriter (or Distiller Asst) is the current/default printer. Public Sub PrintAllDocs() Dim ThisBook as string, LoopRound as Integer Dim TheDoc as Document ThisBook = ThisDocument.Name For Each TheDoc in Documents If TheDoc.Name <> ThisBook Then Application.StatusBar = "Now Printing: " & ActiveDocument.Name ActiveDocument.Printout Endif Next TheDoc End Sub I think if you use Distiller, the Links (I assume you mean Cross References) will remain. Let me know if you need more info. Dave........... ----------------------- > How do you convert multiple Word files into one PDF file? > > More specifically, if I have a book written in Word 97 (including a table > of > contents and chapters saved as separate Word files), what is the best way > to > convert these Word files into one PDF file? Will all the internal links > still work? > > (I'm currently using the PDF Maker macro to convert Word to PDF.) > > Thanks in advance! > > Eliahu _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 18-Jun-1999 0:11:13-GMT,2043;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA01532 for ; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 18:11:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA15406; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 19:06:55 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 17 Jun 1999 19:05:43 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA15326; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 19:05:42 -0500 Message-ID: <37699AD2.C46C955C@wt.net> Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 20:03:14 -0500 From: Rick Bishop Organization: PRP_Media X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com, steve@rdpslides.com Subject: [PDF] Re: PDFMark transitions and the like References: <199906161350.IAA28961@everglades.binc.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ Steve: Sounds like a better solution may be to use a small EXE to display the client's logo splash screen and then launch the Reader displaying the appropriate document. I use a setup that shows a clickable list of available pdf documents, initiates index search, launches other programs, and displays information and graphics read in from other sources. The client loves it. Rick Bishop Houston _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 18-Jun-1999 2:58:15-GMT,2416;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA05511 for ; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 20:58:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA26299; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 21:52:05 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 17 Jun 1999 21:49:45 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA25997; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 21:49:37 -0500 Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 22:49:16 -0400 From: Michael Vorel Subject: Re: [PDF] Difficulty distilling a pdf from prn To: "INTERNET:pdf@lists.pdfzone.com" Message-ID: <199906172249_MC2-79D8-807@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id VAA25991 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ Message text written by INTERNET:pdf@lists.pdfzone.com >Printing, using the Hp causes some extra info(non PS) related to >HP printers to be in the ps. Distiller 3.0 will not understand this. Check >control panels-> printers-> Acrobat Distiller and set up the ps properties >and then print to file using Acrobat Distiller, then go through Distiller.< Two printers ( I know of HP & Lexmark) create a first record that trips the guesser in their engine to direct to HP-PCL or postscript for processing..... On some occasions, you may just wish to remove the first record of the print file and all should distill as expected after that..... Michael Knowledge is Power, yet True Power is Communicating Knowledge (unknown author) mvorel@compuserve.com _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 18-Jun-1999 2:58:15-GMT,3075;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA05512 for ; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 20:58:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA26337; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 21:52:14 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 17 Jun 1999 21:49:41 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA25995; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 21:49:36 -0500 Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 22:49:08 -0400 From: Michael Vorel Subject: Re: [PDF] Updating PDFs on a network To: "INTERNET:pdf@lists.pdfzone.com" Message-ID: <199906172249_MC2-79D8-804@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id VAA25986 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ Message text written by INTERNET:pdf@lists.pdfzone.com >Here are the quickest and cheapest ways I can come up with: >A. Install the peer web services for Windows NT on your PC >(takes 3 minutes and is dead easy). You can find them on >your NT installation disk. I think their maybe a limitation >on the number of users concurrently connecting, but it is >still usefull for a start. >B. Get any old available PC and install Linux on it (takes >about 1 hour and is made easy by the good setup software >available these days). After installation the Apache >webserver is already running by default, and because it is >internal you can skip many security configurations to start >with. The advantage here is that you get an industrial >strenghth, unlimited server package which helps you to get >some practise for D-Day when you get your proper intranet.< This is a totally unfair generic statement to make.... Solution B Industrial strength implies too much..... Any old PC (386 with 16 MB ram and mfm controller on a 240 MB drive)? Variables that impede this attainment are Disk capacity RAM CPU cycle speed NIC and routers need I go on ? ? ? ? ? This list intended to provide stable and sane response to people not as experienced....... Let's help them, not mislead them..... Michael Knowledge is Power, yet True Power is Communicating Knowledge (unknown author) mvorel@compuserve.com _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 18-Jun-1999 2:59:44-GMT,2388;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA05574 for ; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 20:59:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA26298; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 21:52:05 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 17 Jun 1999 21:50:09 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA26117; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 21:50:07 -0500 Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 22:49:20 -0400 From: Michael Vorel Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF & Printing Press To: "INTERNET:pdf@lists.pdfzone.com" Message-ID: <199906172249_MC2-79D8-809@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id VAA26108 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ Message text written by INTERNET:pdf@lists.pdfzone.com >If embedding a font in a document for the sake of ensuring that document can grow and change without affecting its form and layout is criminal then we must declare the information age "Criminally Insane."< A document has at least two parts.... Content and form Content may evolve independent of form. This is the primary reason most documents evolve.... This is the intelligence that people provide and look for.... Form and factor are cosmetic....... Most documents are read for content, independent of form/layout If I only read for form, who cares what it contains..... michael "In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice, but in practice, there is." _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 18-Jun-1999 2:59:45-GMT,2176;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA05575 for ; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 20:59:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA26338; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 21:52:14 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 17 Jun 1999 21:49:41 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA26035; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 21:49:40 -0500 Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 22:49:28 -0400 From: Michael Vorel Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF & Printing Press To: "INTERNET:pdf@lists.pdfzone.com" Message-ID: <199906172249_MC2-79D8-80A@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id VAA26026 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ Message text written by INTERNET:pdf@lists.pdfzone.com >It's a simple matter of font licensing, and protection for the foundaries (that's the term used when fonts were made out of metal, instead of digits).< Does it matter if the font is physical as in lead or digital? Each type is a creation of some indivual's sweat, concept and perception. Give credit accordingly... regardless of the tools used in the end result.... michael "In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice, but in practice, there is." _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 18-Jun-1999 5:07:09-GMT,2483;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA08452 for ; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 23:07:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA02642; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 23:59:58 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 17 Jun 1999 23:55:45 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA02216; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 23:55:44 -0500 Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 00:55:07 -0400 From: Michael Vorel Subject: Re: [PDF] Distiller 4 errors To: "INTERNET:pdf@lists.pdfzone.com" Message-ID: <199906180055_MC2-79DF-D6D3@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id XAA02210 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ Message text written by INTERNET:pdf@lists.pdfzone.com >I have been testing the creation of various PDF documents from Windows applications such as WordPerfect 6.1 and MS Word 6.0. The documents are all very simple 3-4 page files with a handful of B/W graphics and text in a few fonts. Very straightforward stuff. However, when I try setting the printer in WP 6.1, the program crashes periodically. When it doesn't crash and I am able to select the printer I am still unable to print with the Distiller driver. I get "Application Error - Integer divide by 0". < WordPerfect has two print options 1) Print using a Windows driver 2) Print using a WordPerfect driver Make sure you are using the "Windows" driver..... Michael Knowledge is Power, yet True Power is Communicating Knowledge (unknown author) mvorel@compuserve.com _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 18-Jun-1999 5:11:24-GMT,1843;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA08539 for ; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 23:11:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA03012; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 00:05:52 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 18 Jun 1999 00:02:33 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA02799; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 00:02:32 -0500 Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 10:41:55 +0530 (GMT) From: Murali Krishnan X-Sender: ujaymu01@obelix To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Finding DPI in a PDF file In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ Hello, While creating a PDF file, there is an option to set the DPI we want. But, is there any way to find the DPI of an already created document? If so, how do we find it? Any ideas and suggestions would be of great help for me. Thanks, Murali.J "HAVE A NICE DAY" _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 18-Jun-1999 5:27:46-GMT,2169;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA08904 for ; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 23:27:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA04115; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 00:23:17 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 18 Jun 1999 00:20:45 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA03880; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 00:20:43 -0500 Message-ID: <50AFCE9910E9D211982E00608CF26D1E0ABB35@mail.roundtable.com.au> From: Karl De Abrew To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Finding DPI in a PDF file Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 15:21:34 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ Hello Murali, > While creating a PDF file, there is an option to set the DPI we want. > But, is there any way to find the DPI of an already created > document? If > so, how do we find it? You might like to try Quite Software's Quite a Box of Tricks plug-in. You can download a demonstration version of this from their site - http://www.Quite.com/ It's a great product, and you'll find that you can reduce the size of many of your bloated PDFs to something much more web-optimised (if that's your aim). regards, Karl De Abrew karl@PlanetPDF.com Planet PDF - Code Cuts, AcroBuddies and PDF Store http://www.PlanetPDF.com/ _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 18-Jun-1999 8:39:00-GMT,2871;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA13454 for ; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 02:38:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA13640; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 03:30:51 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 18 Jun 1999 03:26:56 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA13417; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 03:26:55 -0500 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 09:21:57 +0100 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: ron Subject: Re: [PDF] Field icon References: <003101beb8e6$5f1d57e0$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> In-Reply-To: <003101beb8e6$5f1d57e0$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 4.02 M Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ In message <003101beb8e6$5f1d57e0$510b83c1@dan.quite.com>, mailto:Aandi Inston writes > >The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM >_________________________________________________________ > > >> > >> >The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM >> >_________________________________________________________ >> > >> >> The field icon has gone from the toolbar in Exchange >> > >> >What platform are you on (e.g. Windows 98)? >> Windows NT> >> >> >What version of Exchange (e.g. 3.01)? >> Yes >> >> >Did you download and install the forms author recently? >> >Did you download and install the forms filler recently? >> >> Yes to both> > >That is the problem. If you install the forms filler to Exchange, >you are left with only a forms filler...nothing else. If you >want to create forms, you must install the forms author. > >The forms author can fill forms too. >The forms filler is usually used only with Acrobat Reader >(and should not be used with Reader 3.02 or 4.0, which >have a later version). > >To fix this, remove the AFILL32.API -and- AFORM32.API files >from the plug-ins folder, and reinstall the forms author >to that folder. > >Aandi Thanks for your help -- regards Ron _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 18-Jun-1999 10:35:52-GMT,3380;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA15905 for ; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 04:35:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA19000; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 05:23:58 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 18 Jun 1999 05:21:56 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA18882; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 05:21:55 -0500 Message-Id: <199906181021.FAA18877@everglades.binc.net> To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com cc: rpavol@amsite.com Subject: RE: [PDF] automating links/pdfmarks? Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 11:20:56 +0100 From: Steve Probets Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ Roberta Pavol wrote: > Is it possible through pdfmarks (or other means) to have a link > created to open another file. The link would be drawn everyplace > certain text appears in a file. These would be Quark files and the > case I'm talking about is if the text > > See XYZ Reference Manual > appears on a page in a document, then a link is created to open another file. An electronic journal project I worked on consisted of (amongst other things) a database of text strings and associated destination documents. An Acrobat plug-in compared the text strings in the database with the text in the PDF, and where there was a match, a link to the destination document was automatically created in the PDF file. This was achieved using either plug-in technology or the PDF library, to embed links from the database into PDF files. The plug-in approach would probably be best for the situation you describe, the PDF library application created a service that was accessed via a web proxy, enabling readers of PDF files to add value (in the form of pre-checked hyperlinks assembled by experts from the various databases) to their files. A cut-down version of this type of solution could easily be used for the kind of automated linking described here. More information on can be found in a document entitled "Dynamic link inclusion in online PDF journals" available at: http://www.ep.cs.nott.ac.uk/~sgp/ep98.pdf Steve. -------------------------------------------------------------- | Dr. Steve Probets | Email: sgp@cs.nott.ac.uk | | E P Solutions | Phone: (0115) 9514230 | | Navdeep Ct | (0973) 838998 | | Melton Road | | | West Bridgford | Fax: (0115) 9514254 | | Nottingham | Web: http://www.ep.cs.nott.ac.uk/~sgp | -------------------------------------------------------------- _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 18-Jun-1999 12:08:21-GMT,3873;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA17881 for ; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 06:08:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA23691; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 06:53:56 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 18 Jun 1999 06:52:15 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA23590; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 06:52:14 -0500 Message-ID: <2E785084EBC0D111999900608C14A50901A10940@exchangemn2.atk.com> From: "Mera, Jose" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" , "'rpavol@amsite.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] automating links/pdfmarks? Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 06:51:59 -0500 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ Alliant Techsystems' InfoLinker product does exactly what you want, and more. InfoLinker is an Acrobat Exchange plug-in that automates the process of adding links and bookmarks to PDFs. It has a rule based engine. The rules define the source and destination of the link. So in your case a rule can be written that says to link any occurrence of "See [phrase] Reference Manual" link it to [phrase].pdf. The engine uses text, so the location of the references does not matter. Also, when you update your document and the references moves within the page, so will the links when you re-process the PDF through InfoLinker, using the same rule set. You can combine the text rules with zones and/or page ranges to limit where you link as well. Contact me directly if you have any questions. Jose Mera DocMaestro Business Area Manager Alliant Techsystems, Inc. 13133 34th Street N. Clearwater, Florida 33762 Tel: 727/572-2491 E-mail: jose_mera@atk.com Web: http://DocMaestro.atk.com > ---------- > From: Roberta Pavol[SMTP:rpavol@amsite.com] > Reply To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Sent: Thursday, June 17, 1999 4:30 PM > To: PDF email list > Subject: [PDF] automating links/pdfmarks? > > > The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM > _________________________________________________________ > > Memo Subjectutomating links/pdfmarks? 6/17/99 4:24 PM > Is it possible through pdfmarks (or other means) to have a link created to > open another file. The link would be drawn everyplace certain text appears > in a file. These would be Quark files and the case I'm talking about is if > the text > > See XYZ Reference Manual > appears on a page in a document, then a link is created to open another > file. > > This may not be possible since I may need the actual coordinates and the > location of this text on the page will vary from page to page. > > This would be to eliminate searching a document for this text and then > manually drawing a link. > > Thanks in advance. > > Roberta Pavol > > _ > ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ > <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> > <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> > ___________________________________________________________ > _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 18-Jun-1999 13:24:57-GMT,6798;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA19672 for ; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 07:24:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA29817; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 08:19:54 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 18 Jun 1999 08:17:26 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA29669; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 08:17:19 -0500 Message-ID: <001901beb98c$8d4630a0$466564c8@ntplx.net> From: "Michael Abrahamson" To: References: <199906172216.PAA58220@mail.inficad.com> Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF & Printing Press Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 09:14:52 -0400 Organization: Liturgical Publications MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ The simple way to determine which of your local fonts are embeddable (on a PC, not sure about Mac) is to open the properties for the PDFWriter printer driver, go to the details tab, then click on setup. Find the font tab and look in the never embed list. Fonts that are in red are not licensed for embedding. Typically these include any of the WordPerfect (WP) fonts and may include other typestyles as well. Mike Abrahamson ----- Original Message ----- From: Rich Sprague To: Sent: Thursday, June 17, 1999 6:16 PM Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF & Printing Press > > The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM > _________________________________________________________ > > > PDFZone list, > > Wow! I did not realize that so much responses would be generated by > > sending my query. > > > > With each responses, I learned alot on fonts embedding/subsetting, plus > > the licensing of fonts. Really appreciate clarifications. First of all, > > how and where can I check the legalities of each fonts that are embedded > > or subsetted in my documents. > > Here are excerpts from Adobe's font licensing rules... > > ---When is it legal to embed typefaces into documents? > > Adobe permits embedding certain typefaces into documents for the purpose of > viewing and printing only. Documents with embedded typefaces may not be > edited unless the typefaces embedded are licensed to and installed on the > computer doing the editing. The reason for this is that editing the file > adds value to the file. For this, the customer is obtaining value from the > typefaces and is therefore required to have a valid license for the > typefaces. > > In general, embedding certain typefaces is legal if the typefaces are > embedded but cannot be used to edit documents or accessed as typefaces for > use in other documents. Printing to a PostScript-language file and embedding > typefaces into PDF files are legal ways to embed typefaces. Sending > typefaces on floppies along with print jobs is not legal, since they can be > installed and used as typefaces in other documents. > > ---Which typefaces can I embed if I comply with the above rules? > > Typefaces in the Adobe Type Library that were created by Adobe, Linotype, > ITC, Monotype, Agfa, and Fundicion Tipografica Neufville may be embedded in > the file with a document for viewing and printing the document. Adobe is > negotiating with all its other type foundries to obtain this permission. > Until these contracts are final, users must contact the company that > originally licensed the typefaces to determine if embedding is legal. > > > Secondly, > > > > Rich Sprague wrote--------------- > > > > "...Steve, if I'm not mistaken, this chap's goal is to send a file to > > someone else and make sure it prints correctly. I never did get a reply > > back if that meant Docutech, offset, or inkjet..." > > > > What would be the definitions of Docutech, offset or inkjet...? > > Docutech is a high-speed laser printer made by Xerox. They are generally > found in copy centers. There are other machines such as Agfa's Chromapress > that use toners to print 4-color process for short to medium runs without > requiring negatives and plates. These processes are for certain type of work > only. > > Offset (printing) is what you get if you go to a local printer and ask for > several hundred or thousands of copies to be made. The process requires > negatives (created from your PDF file, or through applications like > QuarkXPress and Pagemaker) and plates, and use liquid inks. > > Inkjets are the color printers that most of us now have for simple output. > They are made by Canon, Epson, HP and others and, for the most part, do a > surprisingly good job. They are slow, however, and not made for high-volume > production. > > > To fully > > understand the dynamic of embedding and subsetting fonts, I will have to > > ask the Printing Press which type they use. Also, what other types are > > they...? Any references for reading on web sites, etc. > > > > Thanks in advance for reply. > > > > Robert Richard. > > I'm sending you privately a document I have written regarding embedding and > subsetting fonts. > > If you have any other questions about how you should approach this project, > feel free to e-mail me directly. > > Rich > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > Rich Sprague PDF Solutions/Consulting > (480) 860-0050 Print Management & Production > richsprague@inficad.com 4-Color Digital Printing > *38* years experience Sheetfed & Web Printing > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > > _ > ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ > <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> > <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> > ___________________________________________________________ _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 18-Jun-1999 13:27:18-GMT,3650;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA19747 for ; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 07:27:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA29469; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 08:15:37 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 18 Jun 1999 08:12:10 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA29173; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 08:12:09 -0500 Message-ID: <000901beb98b$ee65e340$466564c8@ntplx.net> From: "Michael Abrahamson" To: References: <199906172141.OAA49711@mail.inficad.com> Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF & Printing Press Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 09:10:26 -0400 Organization: Liturgical Publications MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ Thanks for reminding me of PitStop. I am familiar with that plug-in and have anxiously been awaiting the release of version 4. I can't wait to see what functionality it adds to Acrobat in terms of editing capability. Regardless of the font issue, being able to reflow text when editing with installed fonts is a great addition to the feature set. Mike Abrahamson ----- Original Message ----- From: Rich Sprague To: Sent: Thursday, June 17, 1999 5:41 PM Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF & Printing Press > > The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM > _________________________________________________________ > > > Obviously by adopting PDF we would be giving up the ability to change whatever > > we want according to page layout, text formatting, etc. > > This simply is not true. > > With PitStop, a full PDF Text Editor from http://www.enfocus.com, you can > edit *any* embedded font in a PDF file. The plug-in has many other > outstanding features, too. The developer does want $295.00 for their little > piece of handiwork, but if convenience and flexibility are an issue, then > it's certainly more than worth the price. > > Rich > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > Rich Sprague PDF Solutions/Consulting > (480) 860-0050 Print Management & Production > richsprague@inficad.com 4-Color Digital Printing > *38* years experience Sheetfed & Web Printing > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > _ > ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ > <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> > <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> > ___________________________________________________________ _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 18-Jun-1999 13:29:21-GMT,3594;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA19764 for ; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 07:29:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA30347; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 08:24:48 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 18 Jun 1999 08:22:18 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA30083; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 08:22:17 -0500 Message-ID: <004701beb98d$6e1eeb80$466564c8@ntplx.net> From: "Michael Abrahamson" To: References: <199906180055_MC2-79DF-D6D3@compuserve.com> Subject: Re: [PDF] Distiller 4 errors Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 09:21:10 -0400 Organization: Liturgical Publications MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ I am attempting both the Distiller driver and the PDFWriter driver. The obvious problem with the Distiller driver is the port path is too long for the program to recognize as one entry so it divides it into 3 or 4 separate "supposed" drivers. I could simply change the output port, which I haven't tried yet. We'll see if that fixes the problem at all. Mike Abrahamson ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael Vorel To: Sent: Friday, June 18, 1999 12:55 AM Subject: Re: [PDF] Distiller 4 errors > > The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM > _________________________________________________________ > > Message text written by INTERNET:pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > >I have been testing the creation of various PDF documents from Windows > applications such as WordPerfect 6.1 and MS Word 6.0. The documents are > all > very simple 3-4 page files with a handful of B/W graphics and text in a few > fonts. Very straightforward stuff. However, when I try setting the > printer > in WP 6.1, the program crashes periodically. When it doesn't crash and I > am > able to select the printer I am still unable to print with the Distiller > driver. I get "Application Error - Integer divide by 0". < > > WordPerfect has two print options > > 1) Print using a Windows driver > 2) Print using a WordPerfect driver > > Make sure you are using the "Windows" driver..... > > Michael > > Knowledge is Power, yet True Power is Communicating Knowledge > (unknown author) > mvorel@compuserve.com > _ > ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ > <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> > <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> > ___________________________________________________________ _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 18-Jun-1999 13:32:51-GMT,3015;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA19898 for ; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 07:32:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA30843; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 08:28:54 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 18 Jun 1999 08:27:38 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA30678; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 08:27:37 -0500 Message-Id: <199906181327.GAA14931@mail.inficad.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 06:27:34 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF & Printing Press From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ > Thanks for reminding me of PitStop. I am familiar with that plug-in and > have anxiously been awaiting the release of version 4. I can't wait to see > what functionality it adds to Acrobat in terms of editing capability. > Regardless of the font issue, being able to reflow text when editing with > installed fonts is a great addition to the feature set. > > Mike Abrahamson Mike: I know we've gone round and round on this thread. I hope you understand where I am coming from. I have tried to be helpful to you and will continue to offer you and others my assistance, while unashamedly sticking to my guns for what I believe in. PitStop 4 demo is available for *free* download and trial from http://www.enfocus.com. You can edit lines or paragraphs with any embedded or system font. I don't know how they got around the font issue, but they must have found a way. I know I'm not going to lose any sleep over it, but use it with a great sense of happiness. I am e-mailing you privately a spec sheet on PitStop 4x. Best wishes. Rich ---------------------------------------------------------------- Rich Sprague PDF Solutions/Consulting (480) 860-0050 Print Management & Production richsprague@inficad.com 4-Color Digital Printing *38* years experience Sheetfed & Web Printing ---------------------------------------------------------------- _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 18-Jun-1999 13:55:49-GMT,2200;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA20448 for ; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 07:55:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA00562; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 08:51:06 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 18 Jun 1999 08:49:41 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA00391; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 08:49:39 -0500 Message-ID: <376A4E4E.4631C985@nbnet.nb.ca> Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 10:49:02 -0300 From: Robert Richard X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Pdfzone Subject: [PDF] PDF & Printing Press. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ PDFZone list, Mike Abrahamson wrote-------------------- "...The simple way to determine which of your local fonts are embeddable (on a PC, not sure about Mac) is to open the properties for the PDFWriter printer driver, go to the details tab, then click on setup. Find the font tab and look in the never embed list. Fonts that are in red are not licensed for embedding. Typically these include any of the WordPerfect (WP) fonts and may include other typestyles as well..." Did Adobe.com really intended to identify font colors (Blue & Red) as an indicator for license to embedd or not to? If it is, marvelous. Thanks for tip. Robert Richard. _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 18-Jun-1999 14:08:30-GMT,3198;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA20737 for ; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 08:08:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA02047; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 09:04:47 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 18 Jun 1999 09:03:15 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA01850; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 09:03:08 -0500 Message-ID: <001701beb993$1cced280$466564c8@ntplx.net> From: "Michael Abrahamson" To: References: <376A4E4E.4631C985@nbnet.nb.ca> Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF & Printing Press. Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 10:01:50 -0400 Organization: Liturgical Publications MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ I got it from the list and have used it myself. I apologize I am unable to give due credit to the actual originator of the tip. Whoever you are, THANKS! :) Mike Abrahamson ----- Original Message ----- From: Robert Richard To: Pdfzone Sent: Friday, June 18, 1999 9:49 AM Subject: [PDF] PDF & Printing Press. > > The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM > _________________________________________________________ > > PDFZone list, > > Mike Abrahamson wrote-------------------- > > "...The simple way to determine which of your local fonts are embeddable > (on a PC, not sure about Mac) is to open the properties for the > PDFWriter printer driver, go to the details tab, then click on setup. > Find the font tab and look in the never embed list. Fonts that are in > red are not licensed for embedding. Typically these include any of the > WordPerfect (WP) fonts and may include other typestyles as well..." > > Did Adobe.com really intended to identify font colors (Blue & Red) as an > indicator for license to embedd or not to? If it is, marvelous. > > Thanks for tip. > > Robert Richard. > > _ > ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ > <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> > <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> > ___________________________________________________________ > _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 18-Jun-1999 14:08:40-GMT,4319;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA20747 for ; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 08:08:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA02048; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 09:04:46 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 18 Jun 1999 09:02:29 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA01765; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 09:02:24 -0500 Message-ID: <001101beb992$d4867d20$466564c8@ntplx.net> From: "Michael Abrahamson" To: References: <199906181327.GAA14931@mail.inficad.com> Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF & Printing Press Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 09:59:49 -0400 Organization: Liturgical Publications MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ I wish I had a snappy quote from Socrates or someone else famous to describe how I feel about opposing viewpoints. All I can say is that they are what continue to improve our everyday lives. Healthy debate is what fuels development and higher levels of thinking. We can all be enlightened. I enjoy discussing the various aspects of a number of issues with anyone who has an interest. Together we can all further the advancement of ideas and invention. Mike Abrahamson ----- Original Message ----- From: Rich Sprague To: Sent: Friday, June 18, 1999 9:27 AM Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF & Printing Press > > The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM > _________________________________________________________ > > > Thanks for reminding me of PitStop. I am familiar with that plug-in and > > have anxiously been awaiting the release of version 4. I can't wait to see > > what functionality it adds to Acrobat in terms of editing capability. > > Regardless of the font issue, being able to reflow text when editing with > > installed fonts is a great addition to the feature set. > > > > Mike Abrahamson > > Mike: > > I know we've gone round and round on this thread. I hope you understand > where I am coming from. I have tried to be helpful to you and will continue > to offer you and others my assistance, while unashamedly sticking to my guns > for what I believe in. > > PitStop 4 demo is available for *free* download and trial from > http://www.enfocus.com. You can edit lines or paragraphs with any embedded > or system font. > > I don't know how they got around the font issue, but they must have found a > way. I know I'm not going to lose any sleep over it, but use it with a great > sense of happiness. > > I am e-mailing you privately a spec sheet on PitStop 4x. > > Best wishes. > > Rich > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > Rich Sprague PDF Solutions/Consulting > (480) 860-0050 Print Management & Production > richsprague@inficad.com 4-Color Digital Printing > *38* years experience Sheetfed & Web Printing > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > > > _ > ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ > <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> > <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> > ___________________________________________________________ _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 18-Jun-1999 14:33:30-GMT,4586;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA21440 for ; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 08:33:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA03991; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 09:23:47 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 18 Jun 1999 09:22:06 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA03821; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 09:22:04 -0500 Message-Id: <199906181422.HAA24245@mail.inficad.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 07:22:02 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF & Printing Press. From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ > Mike Abrahamson wrote-------------------- > > "...The simple way to determine which of your local fonts are embeddable > (on a PC, not sure about Mac) is to open the properties for the > PDFWriter printer driver, go to the details tab, then click on setup. > Find the font tab and look in the never embed list. Fonts that are in > red are not licensed for embedding. Typically these include any of the > WordPerfect (WP) fonts and may include other typestyles as well..." > > Did Adobe.com really intended to identify font colors (Blue & Red) as an > indicator for license to embedd or not to? If it is, marvelous. This is not only ingenious of Adobe, but also very smart of Mike to figure this out. I didn't know this, but there are a lot of things that I don't know, or even want to know, about my PC. Sorry folks, my Mac is my best friend. There *are* things I do want to know, however, and this is a good one that addresses universal font/licensing issues. What I don't understand, is why this feature only seems to function in the PDF Writer on the Windoze? I don't see this same function in Distiller, but if someone knows something different, I would love to know how to find it. ----------------------------- **Just discovered!!!** The TT fonts in the PDF Writer that were in red and included in the never embed list aren't even listed in the TT fonts available for embedding with Distiller. Could it just be that Distiller is *smarter* than the PDF Writer and won't even let you embed an unlicensed font? What do you want to bet that this is the case? ----------------------------- On the Mac, that's another story. The print drivers are totally different on the Mac, as we don't have properties to view or change. In fact, many of our Windows (pun intended) are dull shades of gray and don't have any color at all. What you see with the PDF Writer is what you get. But I would also bet that Adobe has found a way to keep us from embedding into something created by their product, something from someone else that could lead to a lawsuit. Mike, thank you. Your thread, and information provided therein, helped me to take this a step further (since my main focus and major area of concern are fonts to be used in documents destined for Print or Press). It'd be nice to hear from Adobe on this one, as I can't find anything about this in their documentation, or on their web site. I'm no longer going to have sleepless nights worrying about whether the fonts I embed are licensed or not. I'll just find something else to lose sleep over. > Thanks for tip. > > Robert Richard. Rich ---------------------------------------------------------------- Rich Sprague PDF Solutions/Consulting (480) 860-0050 Print Management & Production richsprague@inficad.com 4-Color Digital Printing *38* years experience Sheetfed & Web Printing ---------------------------------------------------------------- _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 18-Jun-1999 15:03:48-GMT,7001;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA22256 for ; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 09:03:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA06841; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 09:58:43 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 18 Jun 1999 09:57:20 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA06760; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 09:57:19 -0500 Message-ID: <004e01beb99a$b809ba60$466564c8@ntplx.net> From: "Michael Abrahamson" To: References: <199906181422.HAA24245@mail.inficad.com> Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF & Printing Press. Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 10:56:17 -0400 Organization: Liturgical Publications MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ Like I said, I'm only rehashing what those who have come before me have done and said... I'm just glad I could be of any help. I feel like all I've been doing is asking for it, it's nice to give it now and again. Personally, if anyone loses sleep over this stuff then I think they need a vacation. :) You book the trip, I'll go, too. :) Mike Abrahamson PS - I like that the PDFWriter properties gives you an indication of what you have and what is embeddable. That way there is no confusion and you can see for yourself what fonts have restrictions rather than trying to figure out what is missing from the list with Distiller. If you try to move any of the "red" fonts from the never embed list, you'll find that it is impossible. Great job by Adobe to enforce a so-far-ignored-and-almost-never-enforced policy of font licensing. I still have issues with the level of restriction, but they did a nice job bringing the issue to the forefront. I feel bad for all the font manufacturers who don't allow embedding of their fonts. I can tell just from that list that I won't be attempting to use any WP fonts in my documents any time soon. There are far too many fonts available in the world that allow embedding for me to worry about paying for a fraction of the ones that require the fee. I feel even worse for those people that have come to use fonts that now all of a sudden are going to cause a backlash because they are not licensed for embedding. Hope no one runs into a wall with this issue! Mike Abrahamson ----- Original Message ----- From: Rich Sprague To: Sent: Friday, June 18, 1999 10:22 AM Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF & Printing Press. > > The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM > _________________________________________________________ > > > Mike Abrahamson wrote-------------------- > > > > "...The simple way to determine which of your local fonts are embeddable > > (on a PC, not sure about Mac) is to open the properties for the > > PDFWriter printer driver, go to the details tab, then click on setup. > > Find the font tab and look in the never embed list. Fonts that are in > > red are not licensed for embedding. Typically these include any of the > > WordPerfect (WP) fonts and may include other typestyles as well..." > > > > Did Adobe.com really intended to identify font colors (Blue & Red) as an > > indicator for license to embedd or not to? If it is, marvelous. > > This is not only ingenious of Adobe, but also very smart of Mike to figure > this out. I didn't know this, but there are a lot of things that I don't > know, or even want to know, about my PC. Sorry folks, my Mac is my best > friend. There *are* things I do want to know, however, and this is a good > one that addresses universal font/licensing issues. > > What I don't understand, is why this feature only seems to function in the > PDF Writer on the Windoze? I don't see this same function in Distiller, but > if someone knows something different, I would love to know how to find it. > > ----------------------------- > > **Just discovered!!!** > > The TT fonts in the PDF Writer that were in red and included in the > never embed list aren't even listed in the TT fonts available for embedding > with Distiller. Could it just be that Distiller is *smarter* than the PDF > Writer and won't even let you embed an unlicensed font? What do you want to > bet that this is the case? > > ----------------------------- > > On the Mac, that's another story. The print drivers are totally different on > the Mac, as we don't have properties to view or change. In fact, many of our > Windows (pun intended) are dull shades of gray and don't have any color at > all. > > What you see with the PDF Writer is what you get. But I would also bet that > Adobe has found a way to keep us from embedding into something created by > their product, something from someone else that could lead to a lawsuit. > > Mike, thank you. Your thread, and information provided therein, helped me to > take this a step further (since my main focus and major area of concern are > fonts to be used in documents destined for Print or Press). > > It'd be nice to hear from Adobe on this one, as I can't find anything about > this in their documentation, or on their web site. > > I'm no longer going to have sleepless nights worrying about whether the > fonts I embed are licensed or not. I'll just find something else to lose > sleep over. > > > Thanks for tip. > > > > Robert Richard. > > Rich > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > Rich Sprague PDF Solutions/Consulting > (480) 860-0050 Print Management & Production > richsprague@inficad.com 4-Color Digital Printing > *38* years experience Sheetfed & Web Printing > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > _ > ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ > <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> > <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> > ___________________________________________________________ _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 18-Jun-1999 16:03:42-GMT,2246;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA24125 for ; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 10:03:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA11725; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 10:53:15 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 18 Jun 1999 10:51:08 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA11479; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 10:51:05 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990618115408.0089f320@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 11:54:08 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF & Printing Press In-Reply-To: <199906171537.IAA65073@mail.inficad.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ >Even if the full font is embedded, the person editing would have to have a >copy of that same font on his machine. If the person does not have that >font, then we're talking about issues of font licensing. This is where it >gets sticky/tricky. > You'd think I'd been asleep for the entirety of the preceeding thread. You're right, of course. >I don't think we can suggest that it's *okay* to share fonts. > No, certainly not. Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 18-Jun-1999 16:03:47-GMT,2199;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA24132 for ; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 10:03:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA11875; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 10:54:53 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 18 Jun 1999 10:53:49 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA11745; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 10:53:48 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990618115652.008f68b0@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 11:56:52 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF & Printing Press In-Reply-To: <005701beb8d9$73d4ea20$466564c8@ntplx.net> References: <3.0.5.32.19990617112458.009039a0@pop.iglou.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ > >>From the responses I've been getting and the experience I've had, embedding >the fonts is still no guarantee that the end-user will be able to edit the >typos and retain the original font. I would be elated if this was possible, I sit corrected and somewhat redfaced. You're quite right. Sorry for the confusion. Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 18-Jun-1999 16:16:29-GMT,3329;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA24583 for ; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 10:16:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA13833; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 11:13:42 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 18 Jun 1999 11:12:17 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA13658; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 11:12:09 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990618121509.008a0380@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 12:15:09 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF & Printing Press In-Reply-To: <37696DE1.21BC863A@nbnet.nb.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ >What would be the definitions of Docutech, offset or inkjet...? To fully >understand the dynamic of embedding and subsetting fonts, I will have to >ask the Printing Press which type they use. Also, what other types are >they...? Any references for reading on web sites, etc. > Think of a Docutech as a sort of PostScript printer mindmelded to a humongous Xerox copier and you won't go far wrong. ;-) Inkjet = usually inexpensive desktop printer that creates images by spitting fine droplets of ink in various colors at the printed page. Offset = a printing press of one sort. You've already got a reply about the need for color separations and why ... these would be necessary for offset printing. As somebody else has suggested, if whatever process you use (and your print shop can fill you in on the details) requires separations, you might be in for a lot of expense, time, trouble and bad results if you try to do it yourself w/o adequate knowledge of the processes involved. Personally, I know enough about making separations to know that I don't know nearly enough about making separations to trust myself with making separations. And I think I probably know a lot more than you. Take that for what it's worth. Best bet might be to plan on turning the project over to a freelance artist or production person at some point. It would be very wise to involve them in the process early on, since they'll be able to suggest techniques (and ban others) that will lead to better results further down the road. Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 18-Jun-1999 19:16:55-GMT,2449;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA29919 for ; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 13:16:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA29673; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 14:07:56 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 18 Jun 1999 14:05:57 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA29503; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 14:05:55 -0500 X-Sender: castidata@mail.compusmart.ab.ca X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 08:08:38 -0600 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Kevin Chu Subject: Re: [PDF] Creating PDF's from Word documents? In-Reply-To: <37696C5C.106A4AD1@neuro.ki.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Message-ID: <002fa4008141269SERVER@server.CYBERCOMCASTI> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________
If you have word 97 on your NT machine you should have no problem creating the pdf.  That is the same configuration we used in our office until we upgraded to Acrobat 4.

>However, I recently received a Word97 file that I would
>like to convert to PDF. Is that possible with Adobe Acrobat 3.01
>running on Windows NT 4.01?
>
>-- V. Stokes
>
Kevin Chu, EIT, ACE

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Mgr. | mailto:kfoss@pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------- PDF Showcase; http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/showcase/ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 18-Jun-1999 23:16:59-GMT,4045;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA06679 for ; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 17:16:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA13411; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 18:06:40 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 18 Jun 1999 18:04:31 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA13224; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 18:04:29 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Sender: kurt@mailbag.com Message-Id: Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 18:07:09 -0500 To: PDF@lists.pdfzone.com, pdfdev@lists.pdfzone.com From: Kurt Foss Subject: [PDF] **NEW** PDF IFilter 4.0 Beta Available Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id SAA13203 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ Adobe Systems has posted a beta version of the updated PDF IFilter 4.0 for downloading -- *after registration* on the Adobe website. Follow the current link for IFilter on Adobe's Acrobat Resources page at: http://www.adobe.com/prodindex/acrobat/resources.html This beta version of PDF IFilter supports the searching of Acrobat 4.0 files and double-byte text. PDF IFilter enables the indexing PDF documents with Microsoft Index Server so that visitors to your Web site may easily search for text within PDF documents on the site. IFilter is a Microsoft specification for filtering text from documents. The specification is available on Microsoft's Web site at: http://www.microsoft.com/ntserver/search/ifdocdl.htm Acrobat Reader 4.0 can be downloaded from Adobe, or from PDFzone.COM at: http://www.pdfzone.com/products/software/readerdownload.html Further Details from Adobe Systems: System Requirements » Microsoft Windows NT 4.0 Server with Service Pack 4 » Microsoft Internet Information Server(R) 4.0 » Microsoft Index Server 2.0 Additional Notes PDF IFilter 4.0 Beta is pre-release (beta) software. It does not represent the final product from Adobe. As a pre-release version, it may cause errors or other problems. Adobe Systems will not provide any technical support for the beta version of PDF IFilter. However, we encourage you to report any problems you encounter. Beta, or pre-release, software may contain errors and other problems that could cause system failures. Consequently, Adobe cannot guarantee PDF IFilter's compatibility with a beta version of Microsoft Index Server or for the Microsoft Indexing Service in a beta version of Windows 2000. Known Problems: In some cases, the Index Server does not correctly highlight words. In some cases, the Index Server does not display a PDF file in a results list, though the PDF file does contain the search string and the PDF IFilter successfully returns the search string. PDF IFilter is freely downloadable. The IFilter supports Acrobat PDF files created with version 2.1, 3.0x and 4.0 versions of Adobe Acrobat. ______ P D F z o n e . 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Mgr. | mailto:kfoss@pdfzone.com ---------------------------------------------------------------- PDF Showcase; http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/showcase/ _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 19-Jun-1999 12:23:21-GMT,2849;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA23550 for ; Sat, 19 Jun 1999 06:23:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA21051; Sat, 19 Jun 1999 07:15:34 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 19 Jun 1999 07:12:57 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA20835; Sat, 19 Jun 1999 07:12:54 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] PDF & Printing Press Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1999 13:12:42 +0100 Message-ID: <001a01beba4d$08adab40$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <199906181327.GAA14931@mail.inficad.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ There's a philisophical difference between PitStop and Touch-Up which partly accounts for the different behaviour. PitStop edits the text and does not touch the font in any way. This means, for instance, that if you have a subsetted font, and the document contains only the word CHOCOLATE and you tried to change it to PERCOLATE you would only see ECOLATE, because the font does not contain either P or R. The touch-up plug-in is more sophisticated and will not tolerate this - knowing that it will confuse people. I find it helpful to remember the origins of the text touch up plug-in. It was added as part of (Paper) Capture, and was really only intended to correct OCR errors. People gleefully found it and set about changing text in other contexts (or "doing the devil's work" as I prefer to call it). Naturally, its limitations become apparent. Aandi > PitStop 4 demo is available for *free* download and trial from > http://www.enfocus.com. You can edit lines or paragraphs with > any embedded > or system font. > > I don't know how they got around the font issue, but they > must have found a way. _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 19-Jun-1999 13:32:55-GMT,3849;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA24961 for ; Sat, 19 Jun 1999 07:32:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA25694; Sat, 19 Jun 1999 08:24:15 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 19 Jun 1999 08:21:22 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA25464; Sat, 19 Jun 1999 08:21:21 -0500 Message-Id: <199906191321.GAA65313@mail.inficad.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1999 06:21:19 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF & Printing Press From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ > There's a philisophical difference between PitStop and Touch-Up > which partly accounts for the different behaviour. > > PitStop edits the text and does not touch the font in any way. > This means, for instance, that if you have a subsetted font, and > the document contains only the word CHOCOLATE and you tried to > change it to PERCOLATE you would only see ECOLATE, because the > font does not contain either P or R. What happens if you subset at 5% and don't have the original font residing on your system? Isn't the subset going to contain all the font's characters? ***I just made a Word doc and typed in three rows of characters from my keyboard, changed the font to Century bold, made a PS file and distilled at 5% subset. Then I removed the font from my system (using ATM), and opened the file. The TouchUp tool wanted me to unembed...PitStop allowed me to add characters *not* already included in the doc.*** > The touch-up plug-in is more sophisticated and will not tolerate > this - knowing that it will confuse people. Is this how we become confused? I've been wondering? > I find it helpful to remember the origins of the text touch up > plug-in. It was added as part of (Paper) Capture, and was really > only intended to correct OCR errors. People gleefully found it > and set about changing text in other contexts (or "doing the > devil's work" as I prefer to call it). Naturally, its limitations > become apparent. "...gleefully found it..." That's wonderful. I bet they were doing Acrobatics. Thank you for reminding me how valuable history (and knowledge) is. > Aandi > >> PitStop 4 demo is available for *free* download and trial from >> http://www.enfocus.com. You can edit lines or paragraphs with >> any embedded >> or system font. >> >> I don't know how they got around the font issue, but they >> must have found a way. Thanks, Aandi. Rich ---------------------------------------------------------------- Rich Sprague PDF Solutions/Consulting (480) 860-0050 Print Management & Production richsprague@inficad.com 4-Color Digital Printing *38* years experience Sheetfed & Web Printing ---------------------------------------------------------------- _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 19-Jun-1999 13:56:40-GMT,2849;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA25429 for ; Sat, 19 Jun 1999 07:56:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA27342; Sat, 19 Jun 1999 08:53:05 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 19 Jun 1999 08:51:36 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA27202; Sat, 19 Jun 1999 08:51:35 -0500 Message-ID: <376BA05D.76CB356F@nbnet.nb.ca> Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1999 10:51:25 -0300 From: Robert Richard X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Pdfzone Subject: [PDF] PDF & Printing Press. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ PDFZone list, This morning, I called my co-worker about said pdf files that we, federal government of Canada, sent to the Printing Press. On our part, we use Acrobat Distiller 4.0 to convert Word97 and Corel Draw 8 documents to pdf under Win95/98 platforms. The Printing Press Company evidently works with Mac computers. To our knowledge, they should be able to read the pdf files with Acrobat 3.0 or 4.0 for Mac. Oddly enough, yesterday, they called my co-worker to indicate that pages from said documents were missing. For example, one original document contained 22 pages, the Printing Press people says that they only have 13. How is it possible to loose pages in a document like in the above example? I suspect that they created thumbnails, we did not create any, and deleted them by error. For a fact, the Printing Press we are dealing with is one of the best in our province and are not classified as a low level printing company. I did not find necessary to detail the process we used for producing the pdf's because they were perfectly fine on our side. The "Job options" in Distiller 4.0 was set to "Press Optimized". So, this morning my co-worker is meeting again with a technician to resend said pdf files on a Mac Iomega zip cartridge Thanks in advance for help. Robert Richard. _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 19-Jun-1999 14:19:59-GMT,4234;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA25944 for ; Sat, 19 Jun 1999 08:19:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA28744; Sat, 19 Jun 1999 09:14:52 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 19 Jun 1999 09:12:04 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA28542; Sat, 19 Jun 1999 09:12:02 -0500 Message-Id: <199906191411.HAA71049@mail.inficad.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1999 07:12:00 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF & Printing Press. From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ > > The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM > _________________________________________________________ > > PDFZone list, > This morning, I called my co-worker about said pdf files that we, > federal government of Canada, sent to the Printing Press. On our part, > we use Acrobat Distiller 4.0 to convert Word97 and Corel Draw 8 > documents to pdf under Win95/98 platforms. The Printing Press Company > evidently works with Mac computers. To our knowledge, they should be > able to read the pdf files with Acrobat 3.0 or 4.0 for Mac. Oddly > enough, yesterday, they called my co-worker to indicate that pages from > said documents were missing. For example, one original document > contained 22 pages, the Printing Press people says that they only have > 13. How is it possible to loose pages in a document like in the above > example? I suspect that they created thumbnails, we did not create any, > and deleted them by error. For a fact, the Printing Press we are dealing > with is one of the best in our province and are not classified as a low > level printing company. > > I did not find necessary to detail the process we used for producing the > pdf's because they were perfectly fine on our side. The "Job options" in > Distiller 4.0 was set to "Press Optimized". > > So, this morning my co-worker is meeting again with a technician to > resend said pdf files on a Mac Iomega zip cartridge > > Thanks in advance for help. > > Robert Richard. Good morning, Robert: I see some government people have to work on Saturday just like the rest of us peons. That's the pits. And I always thought you guys had kush jobs. Just kidding. If you have 22 pages in a PDF file that opens on your machine, 9 pages aren't going to disappear without some human intervention. To the best of my knowledge, Macs do not feed on PDF files. They had better not, or I'm in real trouble. If you can open 22 pages, they should be able to open 22 pages. Also, the PDF file should be small enough that it could be e-mailed, or ftp'd, although I am sure your associate wants to see the white's of the technician's eyes. Might want to open the file on someone else's machine in your office, to ensure that it's transportable. Have a nice weekend. Rich ---------------------------------------------------------------- Rich Sprague PDF Solutions/Consulting (480) 860-0050 Print Management & Production richsprague@inficad.com 4-Color Digital Printing *38* years experience Sheetfed & Web Printing ---------------------------------------------------------------- _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 19-Jun-1999 21:23:08-GMT,3433;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA05098 for ; Sat, 19 Jun 1999 15:23:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA20614; Sat, 19 Jun 1999 16:20:23 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 19 Jun 1999 16:16:33 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA20352; Sat, 19 Jun 1999 16:16:31 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] PDF & Printing Press Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1999 22:16:12 +0100 Message-ID: <000001beba98$f5acf220$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <199906191321.GAA65313@mail.inficad.com> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ > > PitStop edits the text and does not touch the font in any way. > > This means, for instance, that if you have a subsetted font, and > > the document contains only the word CHOCOLATE and you tried to > > change it to PERCOLATE you would only see ECOLATE, because the > > font does not contain either P or R. > > What happens if you subset at 5% and don't have the original > font residing > on your system? Isn't the subset going to contain all the > font's characters? A font is either subsetted or not. If it is subsetted it contains ONLY the characters used in the original file (so far as I have checked; that's the only thing that makes sense). If it is not subsetted it is the entire font (which is similar to, but not the same as, a subset containing all the characters). The 5% figure would be a threshold. 5% of a typical font is maybe 15 characters. If more than - say - 15 distinct characters are used (with a 5% threshold and a font of 300 characters) then you get the whole font, not a subset. > > ***I just made a Word doc and typed in three rows of > characters from my > keyboard, changed the font to Century bold, made a PS file > and distilled at > 5% subset. Then I removed the font from my system (using > ATM), and opened > the file. The TouchUp tool wanted me to unembed...PitStop > allowed me to add > characters *not* already included in the doc.*** Sounds as though it was not subsetted. I don't know if there are technical reasons why touch-up won't allow editing, but here's one guess. It may rely on the operating system to display the characters in the edit area, so the font must be in the operating system's list - sounds kind of plausible. Aandi _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 21-Jun-1999 5:25:56-GMT,1825;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA15690 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 23:25:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA25945; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 00:23:36 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 21 Jun 1999 00:15:59 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA25451; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 00:15:57 -0500 Message-ID: <376DCA93.8DC9BD2A@lauterkranz.com> Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 07:16:03 +0200 From: Richard Lauterkranz X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Marking Included images Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ I am looking for a method to automaticaly drawing a box around a placed image during distilling procedure. I have a list of image names and want to have a mark in the PDF file when one of these images (placed EPS) appears. Is there anyone with ideas Richard _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 21-Jun-1999 10:32:35-GMT,3363;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA22620 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 04:32:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA08468; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 05:30:33 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 21 Jun 1999 05:28:26 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA08368; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 05:28:25 -0500 X-Sender: imarkovi@mail Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <376DCA93.8DC9BD2A@lauterkranz.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 11:23:12 +0100 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: "Ivan E. Markovic" Subject: Re: [PDF] Marking Included images Cc: lauterkranz@lauterkranz.com Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ Richard, What do you mean a 'mark'? Please let me know what you mean by a mark and what you want to do with this mark. Does it need to be a square and does it need to be surrounding the image? One way you could do it would be to redefine the image operator in PosScript. It would take the CTM from the image call and use that to draw a perfect square around the image. Youy could include the redefinition in the original PS file or include it in the startup.ps file so that the redefinition is global (applies to ALL files subsequently distilled). The only problem is that this will draw a square around EVERY image in EVERY PDF file until you remove the code. Anyway the redefinition of the image operator is the way to go; but if you can tell me a bit more about WHY you need to do this I might save you the time of having to write the PostScript code to redefine the operator or even me having to write it (if you cannot do it yourself). I v a n ... 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Find & Compare plug-ins & applications from dozens of vendors ______________________________________________________________ 15-Jun-1999 0:18:55-GMT,3039;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA10413 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 18:18:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA03242; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 18:49:41 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 14 Jun 1999 18:47:57 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA03102; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 18:47:54 -0500 Message-ID: <3765954D.A7033914@hsbc.co.jp> Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 08:50:37 +0900 From: Patrick Niessen Organization: HSBC Securities X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en]C-CCK-MCD (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en, ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf-digest@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Updating PDFs on a network Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ > that be are holding off on the funds. Since I'm unsure of when funding will be available, Here are the quickest and cheapest ways I can come up with: A. Install the peer web services for Windows NT on your PC (takes 3 minutes and is dead easy). You can find them on your NT installation disk. I think their maybe a limitation on the number of users concurrently connecting, but it is still usefull for a start. B. Get any old available PC and install Linux on it (takes about 1 hour and is made easy by the good setup software available these days). After installation the Apache webserver is already running by default, and because it is internal you can skip many security configurations to start with. The advantage here is that you get an industrial strenghth, unlimited server package which helps you to get some practise for D-Day when you get your proper intranet. Whichever way you go, I think if you have a small intranet server runnning and people can start using it on a trial basis, it is much easier to convince the decisionmaker to give you money... ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Patrick A Niessen Equity Research Support / PC Support HSBC Securities Japan Ltd HSBC Building 11-1, Nihonbashi 3-chome, Chuo-ku, Tokyo 103-0027 Tel.: (03)5203-3829 Fax: (03)5203-3975 e-mail: niessen@hsbc.co.jp ------------------------------------------------------------------------ _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 21-Jun-1999 12:48:24-GMT,3890;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA25601 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 06:48:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA16171; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 07:35:31 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 21 Jun 1999 07:33:52 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA16029; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 07:33:51 -0500 X-Sender: imarkovi@mail Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <376DCA93.8DC9BD2A@lauterkranz.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 13:28:37 +0100 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: "Ivan E. Markovic" Subject: Re: [PDF] Marking Included images Cc: lauterkranz@lauterkranz.com Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ Sorry could not resist the temptation. Below you will find a basic few lines of PostScript code that you will need to insert at the very beginning of any PostScript file that you wish to distill. Now I did this very quickly and I was a bit lazy. It does not account for B&W images or Level 2 PostScript (which uses a dictionary and not the stack to hold the operators) but it works for most colour images. If this is what you want let me know and I can send you the rest of the code when I have more time. Enclosed you will find a PDF file which shows the red rectangle around the image. Actually it is a filled not a stroked rectangle; the reason for that has to do with scaled linewidths which will not give a perfect rectangle if not even, so I opted for a filled rectangle; looks better! I hope this works for you. %% Copyright Ivan Markovic 1999. %% This is a comment %% Add me to the beginning of any PostScript file that you wish %% to distill /colorimage { 5 dict begin /curr_ matrix currentmatrix def /def_ matrix defaultmatrix def /_lineW 3 def /_xScale 1 curr_ 0 get def_ 0 get div div _lineW mul def /_yScale 1 curr_ 3 get def_ 3 get div div _lineW mul def count 7 eq { gsave 1 0 0 setrgbcolor _xScale neg _yScale 1 _xScale 2 mul add -1 _yScale -2 mul add rectfill grestore } { %% This is where the Level 2 dictionaries %% should be dealt with, maybe later! } ifelse end systemdict /colorimage get exec } def %% Enf of code I v a n ... Director of IT VL Technologies >The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM >_________________________________________________________ > >I am looking for a method to automaticaly drawing a box >around a placed image during distilling procedure. > >I have a list of image names and want to have a mark in the PDF file >when one of these images (placed EPS) appears. > >Is there anyone with ideas > >Richard >_ >____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ ><- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> > <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> >___________________________________________________________ Ivan Markovic VLTEC Director of Information Technology Direct: 01 2402544 Mobile: 087 2939256 Fax: 01 2402501 _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 21-Jun-1999 12:52:45-GMT,2674;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA25739 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 06:52:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA17283; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 07:51:02 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 21 Jun 1999 07:46:00 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA16773; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 07:45:58 -0500 Message-ID: <003301bebbf5$53e26480$c0c0c0c0@dirk> From: "dirk pauwels" To: "pdf developers mailinglist" Subject: [PDFdev] image stream in pdfmark (again) Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 16:49:52 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-pdfdev@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdfdev@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVES: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDFdev list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM ____________________________________________________________ Thanks Helge, I did not manage to enter the ASCII85 encode image, but inserted it as plain ascii. The stream is just a copy 'n past from the ascii EPS file from photoshop. the mark looks like this, but it is not working ... [/BBox [ 213 455 284 515 ] /_objdef {next2} /BP pdfmark [/EP pdfmark [{next2} /SP pdfmark [/_objdef {next2} /type /stream /OBJ pdfmark [{next2} (FFFFFFFFFFFEFFFFFFFDFDFFFFEFCFA37D5D443B465E7DA2C9ECFFFFFFFFFFFE FFFEFBFEFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFEFFFFFFFDFDFEFDEDCCA077573E35425A799EC5 ... and so on ... FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFEE5BC957762534B56637A98BCE3FCFEFFFFFFFFFFFFFF FFFFFFFF) /PUT pdfmark [{next2} /CLOSE pdfmark the error in distiller is: %%[ Error: typecheck; OffendingCommand: pdfmark; ErrorInfo: OBJ stream ]%% Stack: /OBJ /stream /type {next2} /_objdef -dict- {pop} {pop} {pop} {pop} -mark- dirk pauwels trainer EPP&P VDAB Training en Opleiding Grafisch Centrum Turnhout 014 44 51 99 dpauwels@skynet.be dpauwels@vdab.be http://www.vdab.be ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 21-Jun-1999 13:45:54-GMT,2177;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA27040 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 07:45:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA21757; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 08:43:00 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 21 Jun 1999 08:40:52 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA21573; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 08:40:49 -0500 From: DBRICHTA@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 09:39:37 EDT Subject: [PDF] Zapf Dingbats not printing To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ I received a PDF file from a client, created in Quark and distilled with Distiller 3.01 for a Mac. I am using Acrobat 4.0 on a PC (Win95). The file looks fine on screen, but the Zapf Dingbat font does not print -- either from Acrobat or from PageMaker (which is where I want it.). All the other fonts (which are embedded) are fine. I have Zapf Dingbats installed and I'm printing to a Postscript printer (HP5MP) where it is a resident font. Printer driver is current -- Adobe PS 4.3. The problem Zapf characters are an arrow (ASCII 0227) and a scissors (Character "). Any suggestions or thoughts? Don Brichta Anadon Communications Sharon, Mass. dbrichta@aol.com _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 21-Jun-1999 14:03:15-GMT,2953;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA27438 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 08:03:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA23017; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 08:58:49 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 21 Jun 1999 08:57:34 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA22919; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 08:57:33 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19990621192702.0087a130@pinnacle.techbooks.com> X-Sender: vsharma@pinnacle.techbooks.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 19:27:02 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Vinod Sharma Subject: Re: [PDF] Zapf Dingbats not printing Cc: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ Try with Acrobat 3.01. It will print properly. I have faced the similar problem and do not know what the cause was, but with 3.01 it worked. Cheers, Vinod.. At 09:39 AM 6/21/99 EDT, DBRICHTA@aol.com wrote: > >The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM >_________________________________________________________ > >I received a PDF file from a client, created in Quark and distilled with >Distiller 3.01 for a Mac. > >I am using Acrobat 4.0 on a PC (Win95). The file looks fine on screen, but >the Zapf Dingbat font does not print -- either from Acrobat or from PageMaker >(which is where I want it.). All the other fonts (which are embedded) are >fine. > >I have Zapf Dingbats installed and I'm printing to a Postscript printer >(HP5MP) where it is a resident font. Printer driver is current -- Adobe PS >4.3. > >The problem Zapf characters are an arrow (ASCII 0227) and a scissors >(Character "). > >Any suggestions or thoughts? > >Don Brichta >Anadon Communications >Sharon, Mass. >dbrichta@aol.com >_ >____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ ><- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> > <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> >___________________________________________________________ > > _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 21-Jun-1999 14:26:22-GMT,3788;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA28118 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 08:26:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA25089; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 09:21:18 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 21 Jun 1999 09:20:09 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA24959; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 09:20:06 -0500 X-Sender: imarkovi@mail Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 15:14:52 +0100 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: "Ivan E. Markovic" Subject: Re: [PDF] Zapf Dingbats not printing Cc: DBRICHTA@aol.com Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM _________________________________________________________ Don, That is an interesting problem. Do try using Acrobat 3.01, see if that works for you. But that may not solve the problem for you in the long term, it just avoids the problem. It would be useful to know if there are any other issues which may be causing this problem and that might cause other problems in the future. I strongly suggest the following plan of action: Create a single page pdf file with JUST the Zapf Dingbats font in it and see if that prints. If it doesn't then try using a different application (Illustrator or MS Word) to create the same page and then print the resulting PDF. Have you tried different printers? If a friend has a printer then send them the file to see if it prints on their printer (just out of interest exactly WHAT printer are you using? Is it true PostScript?). And if you want you can always print the PDF to a PostScript file on disk and send it to me; I could then tell you what is wrong and what might be causing this problem. Good luck. I v a n... Director of IT VL Technologies >The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM >_________________________________________________________ > >I received a PDF file from a client, created in Quark and distilled with >Distiller 3.01 for a Mac. > >I am using Acrobat 4.0 on a PC (Win95). The file looks fine on screen, but >the Zapf Dingbat font does not print -- either from Acrobat or from PageMaker >(which is where I want it.). All the other fonts (which are embedded) are >fine. > >I have Zapf Dingbats installed and I'm printing to a Postscript printer >(HP5MP) where it is a resident font. Printer driver is current -- Adobe PS >4.3. > >The problem Zapf characters are an arrow (ASCII 0227) and a scissors >(Character "). > >Any suggestions or thoughts? > >Don Brichta >Anadon Communications >Sharon, Mass. >dbrichta@aol.com >_ >____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ ><- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> > <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> >___________________________________________________________ Ivan Markovic VLTEC Director of Information Technology Direct: 01 2402544 Mobile: 087 2939256 Fax: 01 2402501 _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 21-Jun-1999 14:39:23-GMT,2873;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA28536 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 08:39:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA26608; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 09:37:20 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 21 Jun 1999 09:35:50 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA26414; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 09:35:49 -0500 Message-Id: <199906212135.OAA49440@mail.inficad.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 07:35:45 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Zapf Dingbats not printing From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > I received a PDF file from a client, created in Quark and distilled with > Distiller 3.01 for a Mac. > > I am using Acrobat 4.0 on a PC (Win95). The file looks fine on screen, but > the Zapf Dingbat font does not print -- either from Acrobat or from PageMaker > (which is where I want it.). All the other fonts (which are embedded) are > fine. > > I have Zapf Dingbats installed and I'm printing to a Postscript printer > (HP5MP) where it is a resident font. Printer driver is current -- Adobe PS > 4.3. > > The problem Zapf characters are an arrow (ASCII 0227) and a scissors > (Character "). > > Any suggestions or thoughts? > > Don Brichta > Anadon Communications If you go into DOCUMENT INFO > FONTS, what do you see for Zapf Dingbats? Can you fix it using the Text TouchUp tool. What happens if you export a PS file and re-distill it? No other ideas at the moment. Rich ---------------------------------------------------------------- Rich Sprague PDF Solutions/Consulting (480) 860-0050 Print Management & Production richsprague@inficad.com 4-Color Digital Printing *38* years experience Sheetfed & Web Printing ---------------------------------------------------------------- _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 21-Jun-1999 14:44:56-GMT,2563;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA28685 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 08:44:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA27078; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 09:43:16 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 21 Jun 1999 09:41:38 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA26936; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 09:41:37 -0500 Message-Id: <199906212141.OAA50435@mail.inficad.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 07:41:34 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Zapf Dingbats not printing From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >>I received a PDF file from a client, created in Quark and distilled with >>Distiller 3.01 for a Mac. I just created a test page using Zapf Dingbats, Word on the Mac, Acrobat 4x. Made a PDF, ported to my PC. Opened *and* printed just fine. In the long run, you should convince whoever sent you the file, to upgrade to Acrobat 4x for $99.00 (http://www.pdfzone.com. I've seen a lot of threads in the last few months from people with problems printing Zapf Dingbats. Enough to drive one dingy, if not batty. Sorry. In Acrobat 4x the Base 14 fonts can be embedded. Rich ---------------------------------------------------------------- Rich Sprague PDF Solutions/Consulting (480) 860-0050 Print Management & Production richsprague@inficad.com 4-Color Digital Printing *38* years experience Sheetfed & Web Printing ---------------------------------------------------------------- _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 21-Jun-1999 16:06:52-GMT,2790;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA01248 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 10:06:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA01725; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 11:01:32 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 21 Jun 1999 10:59:29 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA01534; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 10:59:27 -0500 From: DBRICHTA@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 11:56:58 EDT Subject: Re: [PDF] Zapf Dingbats not printing To: ivan.markovic@vltec.com, pdf@lists.pdfzone.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ ivan.markovic@vltec.com writes: > That is an interesting problem. Do try using Acrobat 3.01, see if that > works for you Acrobat 3.01 is no better -- and a little worse. The arrow character (which, by the way, is used as a bullet in the document) does not appear on screen. The scissors character appears. Neither print. >I strongly suggest the following plan of action: >Create a single page pdf file with JUST the Zapf Dingbats font >in it and see if that prints. When I create a PDF with the Zapf Dingbats font, everything works fine. >Have you tried different printers? If a friend has a printer then send them >the file to see if it prints on their printer (just out of interest exactly >WHAT printer are you using? Is it true PostScript?). We're getting warm. When I print to my Epson1520 (non-Postscript), the file is perfect. So there's a conflct either with my printer (an HP 5MP--true Adobe Postscript) or with the printer driver. My feeling is this is a problem with the cross-platfrom conversion. I sense the Mac is mapping these Zapf characters to someplace that my PC doesn't see them. We are talking about only two characters here: Any other ideas? Don Brichta Anadon Communications Sharon, Mass. dbrichta@aol.com _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 21-Jun-1999 16:09:52-GMT,2347;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA01367 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 10:09:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA02029; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 11:05:57 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 21 Jun 1999 11:04:52 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA01933; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 11:04:51 -0500 Message-Id: <199906212304.QAA68213@mail.inficad.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 09:04:46 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Zapf Dingbats not printing From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > My feeling is this is a problem with the cross-platfrom conversion. I sense > the Mac is mapping these Zapf characters to someplace that my PC doesn't see > them. We are talking about only two characters here: > > Any other ideas? > > Don Brichta > Anadon Communications Send me the PDF file and I will check it for you. I have both Macs and a PC. Rich ---------------------------------------------------------------- Rich Sprague PDF Solutions/Consulting (480) 860-0050 Print Management & Production richsprague@inficad.com 4-Color Digital Printing *38* years experience Sheetfed & Web Printing ---------------------------------------------------------------- _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 21-Jun-1999 16:46:19-GMT,5470;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA02522 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 10:46:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA05074; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 11:42:44 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 21 Jun 1999 11:41:22 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA04965; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 11:41:21 -0500 Content-return: allowed Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 10:38:53 -0600 From: "Hagar, Laura M" Subject: RE: [PDF] automating links/pdfmarks? To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-type: text/plain Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I gave the InfoLinker product a test drive on some of our books. I can recommend it highly---given 1 caveat. The text in your books must be the same type font; all headings (if required for links) must be the same type font size. Aside from that little bit of difficulty, I really liked the product. Unfortunately, our documents don't fit that so we couldn't use it. I can also say that they have great tech support. Sue worked with me extensively to resolves issues and come up rule files that almost did what we wanted. Our dealings with the sales people was also positive. I sure wish we could have used their tool. Hope you try it and find that it fits your need, Roberta. Laura M. Hagar L-245 Documentation Lockheed Martin Astronautics > ---------- > From: Mera, Jose[SMTP:Jose_Mera@ATK.COM] > Reply To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Sent: Friday, June 18, 1999 5:51 AM > To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'; 'rpavol@amsite.com' > Subject: RE: [PDF] automating links/pdfmarks? > > > The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM > _________________________________________________________ > > Alliant Techsystems' InfoLinker product does exactly what you want, and > more. InfoLinker is an Acrobat Exchange plug-in that automates the > process > of adding links and bookmarks to PDFs. It has a rule based engine. The > rules define the source and destination of the link. So in your case a > rule > can be written that says to link any occurrence of "See [phrase] Reference > Manual" link it to [phrase].pdf. The engine uses text, so the location > of > the references does not matter. Also, when you update your document and > the > references moves within the page, so will the links when you re-process > the > PDF through InfoLinker, using the same rule set. You can combine the text > rules with zones and/or page ranges to limit where you link as well. > > Contact me directly if you have any questions. > > Jose Mera > DocMaestro Business Area Manager > Alliant Techsystems, Inc. > 13133 34th Street N. > Clearwater, Florida 33762 > Tel: 727/572-2491 > E-mail: jose_mera@atk.com > Web: http://DocMaestro.atk.com > > > ---------- > > From: Roberta Pavol[SMTP:rpavol@amsite.com] > > Reply To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > > Sent: Thursday, June 17, 1999 4:30 PM > > To: PDF email list > > Subject: [PDF] automating links/pdfmarks? > > > > > > The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM > > _________________________________________________________ > > > > Memo Subjectutomating links/pdfmarks? 6/17/99 4:24 > PM > > Is it possible through pdfmarks (or other means) to have a link created > to > > open another file. The link would be drawn everyplace certain text > appears > > in a file. These would be Quark files and the case I'm talking about is > if > > the text > > > > See XYZ Reference Manual > > appears on a page in a document, then a link is created to open another > > file. > > > > This may not be possible since I may need the actual coordinates and the > > location of this text on the page will vary from page to page. > > > > This would be to eliminate searching a document for this text and then > > manually drawing a link. > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > > Roberta Pavol > > > > _ > > ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ > > <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> > > <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> > > ___________________________________________________________ > > > _ > ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ > <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> > <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> > ___________________________________________________________ > _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 21-Jun-1999 19:49:24-GMT,5389;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA08364 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 13:49:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA20207; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 14:44:12 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 21 Jun 1999 14:43:08 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA20127; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 14:43:06 -0500 Message-ID: <376E95C8.F4413F3A@lauterkranz.com> Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 21:43:05 +0200 From: Richard Lauterkranz X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Marking Included images References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi sorry for the delay I like your code, but my problem is a bit different: I have a list of about 800 Filenames that CAN (but must not) be included as EPS-Ads in a newspaperpage. After distilling the PS-Code of this Pages (running thru helios---Distiller--agfa Apogee) I want to have any mark ( square, dot, line... anything) to recognize if one of these files is included. Because i need to replace them (PitStop) with localized other ads. I think the Problem is that the only way to find the beginning of the included EPS is: %% Begin Document xxxxxx. Up to now we are doing this with search and replace filters written in Powerreplace. This is a lot of work and too much time conduming. So i thought there might be a chance to do that with PostScript on the RIP or in Distiller. Thanks Richard "Ivan E. Markovic" wrote: > The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM > _________________________________________________________ > > Sorry could not resist the temptation. Below you will find a basic few > lines of PostScript code that you will need to insert at the very beginning > of any PostScript file that you wish to distill. Now I did this very > quickly and I was a bit lazy. It does not account for B&W images or Level 2 > PostScript (which uses a dictionary and not the stack to hold the > operators) but it works for most colour images. > > If this is what you want let me know and I can send you the rest of the > code when I have more time. > > Enclosed you will find a PDF file which shows the red rectangle around the > image. Actually it is a filled not a stroked rectangle; the reason for that > has to do with scaled linewidths which will not give a perfect rectangle if > not even, so I opted for a filled rectangle; looks better! > > I hope this works for you. > > %% Copyright Ivan Markovic 1999. > %% This is a comment > %% Add me to the beginning of any PostScript file that you wish > %% to distill > > /colorimage > { 5 dict begin > /curr_ matrix currentmatrix def > /def_ matrix defaultmatrix def > /_lineW 3 def > /_xScale 1 curr_ 0 get def_ 0 get div div _lineW mul def > /_yScale 1 curr_ 3 get def_ 3 get div div _lineW mul def > > count 7 eq { > gsave > 1 0 0 setrgbcolor > _xScale neg _yScale > 1 _xScale 2 mul add -1 _yScale -2 mul add rectfill > grestore > } > { > %% This is where the Level 2 dictionaries > %% should be dealt with, maybe later! > } ifelse > end > systemdict /colorimage get exec > } def > > %% Enf of code > > I v a n ... > Director of IT > VL Technologies > > >The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM > >_________________________________________________________ > > > >I am looking for a method to automaticaly drawing a box > >around a placed image during distilling procedure. > > > >I have a list of image names and want to have a mark in the PDF file > >when one of these images (placed EPS) appears. > > > >Is there anyone with ideas > > > >Richard > >_ > >____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ > ><- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> > > <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> > >___________________________________________________________ > > Ivan Markovic > VLTEC > Director of Information Technology > Direct: 01 2402544 > Mobile: 087 2939256 > Fax: 01 2402501 > > _ > ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ > <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> > <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> > ___________________________________________________________ _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 21-Jun-1999 19:49:38-GMT,6686;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA08375 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 13:49:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA20169; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 14:43:46 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 21 Jun 1999 14:41:57 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA20003; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 14:41:56 -0500 Message-ID: <2E785084EBC0D111999900608C14A50901A10957@exchangemn2.atk.com> From: "Mera, Jose" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] automating links/pdfmarks? Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 14:41:42 -0500 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Laura, Thanks for the nice words about InfoLinker. However, I must clarify one point. InfoLinker does its linking and bookmarking based on the text only. That is irrespective of font type or size. You may be confused with Compose, which relies on font. Jose Mera DocMaestro Business Area Manager Alliant Techsystems, Inc. 13133 34th Street N. Clearwater, Florida 33762 Tel: 727/572-2491 E-mail: jose_mera@atk.com Web: http://DocMaestro.atk.com > ---------- > From: Hagar, Laura M[SMTP:laura.m.hagar@lmco.com] > Reply To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Sent: Monday, June 21, 1999 12:38 PM > To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' > Subject: RE: [PDF] automating links/pdfmarks? > > > The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > > I gave the InfoLinker product a test drive on some of our books. > I can recommend it highly---given 1 caveat. > The text in your books must be the same type font; all headings (if > required > for links) must be the same type font size. > > Aside from that little bit of difficulty, I really liked the product. > Unfortunately, our documents don't fit that so we couldn't use it. > > I can also say that they have great tech support. Sue worked with me > extensively to resolves issues and come up rule files that almost did what > we wanted. > > Our dealings with the sales people was also positive. > > I sure wish we could have used their tool. > > Hope you try it and find that it fits your need, Roberta. > > > Laura M. Hagar > L-245 Documentation > Lockheed Martin Astronautics > > > > ---------- > > From: Mera, Jose[SMTP:Jose_Mera@ATK.COM] > > Reply To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > > Sent: Friday, June 18, 1999 5:51 AM > > To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'; 'rpavol@amsite.com' > > Subject: RE: [PDF] automating links/pdfmarks? > > > > > > The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM > > _________________________________________________________ > > > > Alliant Techsystems' InfoLinker product does exactly what you want, and > > more. InfoLinker is an Acrobat Exchange plug-in that automates the > > process > > of adding links and bookmarks to PDFs. It has a rule based engine. The > > rules define the source and destination of the link. So in your case a > > rule > > can be written that says to link any occurrence of "See [phrase] > Reference > > Manual" link it to [phrase].pdf. The engine uses text, so the location > > of > > the references does not matter. Also, when you update your document and > > the > > references moves within the page, so will the links when you re-process > > the > > PDF through InfoLinker, using the same rule set. You can combine the > text > > rules with zones and/or page ranges to limit where you link as well. > > > > Contact me directly if you have any questions. > > > > Jose Mera > > DocMaestro Business Area Manager > > Alliant Techsystems, Inc. > > 13133 34th Street N. > > Clearwater, Florida 33762 > > Tel: 727/572-2491 > > E-mail: jose_mera@atk.com > > Web: http://DocMaestro.atk.com > > > > > ---------- > > > From: Roberta Pavol[SMTP:rpavol@amsite.com] > > > Reply To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > > > Sent: Thursday, June 17, 1999 4:30 PM > > > To: PDF email list > > > Subject: [PDF] automating links/pdfmarks? > > > > > > > > > The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM > > > _________________________________________________________ > > > > > > Memo Subjectutomating links/pdfmarks? 6/17/99 4:24 > > PM > > > Is it possible through pdfmarks (or other means) to have a link > created > > to > > > open another file. The link would be drawn everyplace certain text > > appears > > > in a file. These would be Quark files and the case I'm talking about > is > > if > > > the text > > > > > > See XYZ Reference Manual > > > appears on a page in a document, then a link is created to open > another > > > file. > > > > > > This may not be possible since I may need the actual coordinates and > the > > > location of this text on the page will vary from page to page. > > > > > > This would be to eliminate searching a document for this text and then > > > manually drawing a link. > > > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > > > > Roberta Pavol > > > > > > _ > > > ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ > > > <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> > > > <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> > > > ___________________________________________________________ > > > > > _ > > ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ > > <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> > > <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> > > ___________________________________________________________ > > > _ > ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ > <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> > <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> > ___________________________________________________________ > _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 21-Jun-1999 20:24:55-GMT,2481;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA09451 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 14:24:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA23593; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 15:22:16 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 21 Jun 1999 15:20:51 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA23383; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 15:20:32 -0500 Message-ID: <376E9FEB.E8F8493C@ameritech.net> Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 16:26:20 -0400 From: William J Ryan X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (Win98; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] PDF and Xerox Docutech References: <199906181422.HAA24245@mail.inficad.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi: I work with a southeastern Michigan marketing services company. We're already using .pdf files for a number of applications (including electronic document distribution and web reporting). We're now trying to figure out if it's possible to send .pdf files to a Xerox docutech printing system for creation of collated stapled information packages. The .pdf would be created using a database report-writing tool. We'd like to pass this .pdf file to the Docutech and somehow include Xerox commands to do things such as staple and pull sheets from a colored paper tray. We've sent .pdf to the Xerox before, and we've sent HP PCL print files containing escape commands before, but we've never included printer commands inside a .pdf and sent them to a Xerox. Any trail-blazers out there who've had success in doing this? _______________ Bill Ryan - Information Works, Northville, MI _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 21-Jun-1999 20:46:00-GMT,2360;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA10067 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 14:45:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA25730; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 15:41:41 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 21 Jun 1999 15:40:11 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA25560; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 15:39:45 -0500 Message-ID: From: Duff Johnson To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Javascript: Wait function Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 13:43:27 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Folks: A Javascript (in PDF) question for the gurus out there.... We're working on a stepped zoom function for a PDF application. A number of recent posts on the list were very helpful in this regard... Here's the deal. We have the following: ------- function wait(seconds) { var start_time = new Date(); var curr_time; var a = false; while(a==false){ curr_time = new Date(); if(((curr_time.valueOf() - start_time.valueOf())/1000) > seconds){ a = true; } ------- but when I try to put more than one instance of the function in a script, like so: wait(2); this.zoom = 100; wait(4); this.zoom = 200; only the last instance actually works. Why? Any assistance would be greatly appreciated! Duff Johnson President, Document Solutions, Inc. http://www.document-solutions.com _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 21-Jun-1999 21:04:30-GMT,8447;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA10642 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 15:04:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA26864; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 15:54:56 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 21 Jun 1999 15:53:38 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA26759; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 15:53:36 -0500 Content-return: allowed Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 14:51:06 -0600 From: "Hagar, Laura M" Subject: RE: [PDF] automating links/pdfmarks? To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Au contrare' (pardon my bad french spelling) Fonts do play a role in Infolinker--as we found out. We had many documents with different sizes and styles of fonts for headings. All we asked our rule file to do with headings was to find them and create links automatically. Because of the difference in fonts, Infolinker wouldn't work 100%. You may wish to call Sue in Tech Support and clarify with her. That was one of our main reasons for rejecting the product. If all our books had been the same, it wouldn't have mattered. (We can't make people (assorted vendors) change their products after the fact (creation).) Laura M. Hagar L-245 Documentation Lockheed Martin Astronautics > ---------- > From: Mera, Jose[SMTP:Jose_Mera@ATK.COM] > Reply To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Sent: Monday, June 21, 1999 1:41 PM > To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' > Subject: RE: [PDF] automating links/pdfmarks? > > > The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > > Laura, > > Thanks for the nice words about InfoLinker. However, I must clarify one > point. InfoLinker does its linking and bookmarking based on the text > only. > That is irrespective of font type or size. You may be confused with > Compose, which relies on font. > > Jose Mera > DocMaestro Business Area Manager > Alliant Techsystems, Inc. > 13133 34th Street N. > Clearwater, Florida 33762 > Tel: 727/572-2491 > E-mail: jose_mera@atk.com > Web: http://DocMaestro.atk.com > > > ---------- > > From: Hagar, Laura M[SMTP:laura.m.hagar@lmco.com] > > Reply To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > > Sent: Monday, June 21, 1999 12:38 PM > > To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' > > Subject: RE: [PDF] automating links/pdfmarks? > > > > > > The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ > > __________________________________________________________________ > > > > I gave the InfoLinker product a test drive on some of our books. > > I can recommend it highly---given 1 caveat. > > The text in your books must be the same type font; all headings (if > > required > > for links) must be the same type font size. > > > > Aside from that little bit of difficulty, I really liked the product. > > Unfortunately, our documents don't fit that so we couldn't use it. > > > > I can also say that they have great tech support. Sue worked with me > > extensively to resolves issues and come up rule files that almost did > what > > we wanted. > > > > Our dealings with the sales people was also positive. > > > > I sure wish we could have used their tool. > > > > Hope you try it and find that it fits your need, Roberta. > > > > > > Laura M. Hagar > > L-245 Documentation > > Lockheed Martin Astronautics > > > > > > > ---------- > > > From: Mera, Jose[SMTP:Jose_Mera@ATK.COM] > > > Reply To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > > > Sent: Friday, June 18, 1999 5:51 AM > > > To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'; 'rpavol@amsite.com' > > > Subject: RE: [PDF] automating links/pdfmarks? > > > > > > > > > The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM > > > _________________________________________________________ > > > > > > Alliant Techsystems' InfoLinker product does exactly what you want, > and > > > more. InfoLinker is an Acrobat Exchange plug-in that automates the > > > process > > > of adding links and bookmarks to PDFs. It has a rule based engine. > The > > > rules define the source and destination of the link. So in your case > a > > > rule > > > can be written that says to link any occurrence of "See [phrase] > > Reference > > > Manual" link it to [phrase].pdf. The engine uses text, so the > location > > > of > > > the references does not matter. Also, when you update your document > and > > > the > > > references moves within the page, so will the links when you > re-process > > > the > > > PDF through InfoLinker, using the same rule set. You can combine the > > text > > > rules with zones and/or page ranges to limit where you link as well. > > > > > > Contact me directly if you have any questions. > > > > > > Jose Mera > > > DocMaestro Business Area Manager > > > Alliant Techsystems, Inc. > > > 13133 34th Street N. > > > Clearwater, Florida 33762 > > > Tel: 727/572-2491 > > > E-mail: jose_mera@atk.com > > > Web: http://DocMaestro.atk.com > > > > > > > ---------- > > > > From: Roberta Pavol[SMTP:rpavol@amsite.com] > > > > Reply To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > > > > Sent: Thursday, June 17, 1999 4:30 PM > > > > To: PDF email list > > > > Subject: [PDF] automating links/pdfmarks? > > > > > > > > > > > > The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM > > > > _________________________________________________________ > > > > > > > > Memo Subjectutomating links/pdfmarks? 6/17/99 > 4:24 > > > PM > > > > Is it possible through pdfmarks (or other means) to have a link > > created > > > to > > > > open another file. The link would be drawn everyplace certain text > > > appears > > > > in a file. These would be Quark files and the case I'm talking about > > is > > > if > > > > the text > > > > > > > > See XYZ Reference Manual > > > > appears on a page in a document, then a link is created to open > > another > > > > file. > > > > > > > > This may not be possible since I may need the actual coordinates and > > the > > > > location of this text on the page will vary from page to page. > > > > > > > > This would be to eliminate searching a document for this text and > then > > > > manually drawing a link. > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > > > > > > Roberta Pavol > > > > > > > > _ > > > > ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ > > > > <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java > -> > > > > <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> > > > > ___________________________________________________________ > > > > > > > _ > > > ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ > > > <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> > > > <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> > > > ___________________________________________________________ > > > > > _ > > ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ > > <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> > > <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> > > ___________________________________________________________ > > > _ > ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ > <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> > <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> > ___________________________________________________________ > _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 21-Jun-1999 22:35:41-GMT,2989;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA13468 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 16:35:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA02282; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 17:34:37 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 21 Jun 1999 17:33:28 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA02180; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 17:33:26 -0500 Message-ID: From: Gregory Tod To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] PDF and Xerox Docutech Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 08:32:32 +1000 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Bill Ryan wrote: > The .pdf would be created using a database report-writing tool. We'd > like to > pass this .pdf file to the Docutech and somehow include Xerox commands > to do things such as staple and pull sheets from a colored paper tray. > I write: We don't have a Docutech but rather a Docuprint. I think they may be considered similar for this discussion however I'm not sure especially when you mention you have sent a PDF straight to the DT - our DP only likes Postscript and PCL. Anyway, I've wanted to do the same as you (at least changing trays) and investigations so far reveal that there is no easy way at present. This sort of thing is what Adobe's Portable Job Ticket Format (PJTF) is supposed to address but Xerox does not currently support such. Some people suggested a plug-in for Exchange (or Reader) may be the best way to put special things in the Postscript generated when you print the PDF but for various reasons we are not going to try this. Instead we will be modifying some freely available software to convert out PDFs to Postscript wth the various media commands being added at that stage. I imagine you could use a similar technique to solve your problem but it would involve a good knowledge of Postscript and some C programming. I too hope there is an easier way... Maybe e-mail me directly if you want more detailed information. Gregory Tod Chelsea Images _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 21-Jun-1999 22:07:52-GMT,2535;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA12612 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 16:07:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA32527; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 17:03:31 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 21 Jun 1999 17:01:21 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA32363; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 17:01:13 -0500 X-Sender: prodok@pop.eunet.ch Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 00:01:13 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Max Wyss Subject: Re: [PDF] Javascript: Wait function Cc: Duff Johnson Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Duff, Acrobat processes the whole script before it updates the display. So, you could try to use two scripts, and maybe have another action in between. Hope, this can help. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch WWW: http://www.prodok.ch/prodok [ Bridging the Knowledge Gap ] ______________________ >A Javascript (in PDF) question for the gurus out there.... > >We're working on a stepped zoom function for a PDF application. A number of >recent posts on the list were very helpful in this regard... > > >but when I try to put more than one instance of the function in a script, >like so: > > wait(2); > this.zoom = 100; > wait(4); > this.zoom = 200; > >only the last instance actually works. Why? > >Any assistance would be greatly appreciated! > >Duff Johnson _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 22-Jun-1999 0:43:31-GMT,3082;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA16937 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 18:43:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA15461; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 19:40:21 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 21 Jun 1999 19:38:43 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA15294; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 19:38:41 -0500 Message-ID: <376EDB0A.F20215F@frii.com> Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 18:38:35 -0600 From: "Bruce A. Boman" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] adding a watermark Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------52C9C7B15E443EEBC0F0ACF4" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------52C9C7B15E443EEBC0F0ACF4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit HELP! I am experiencing problems printing a PDF file using Adobe PS Driver and adding a watermark which I then re-distill so the PDF has the watermark. I have done this before and had no problems, but today sometimes the watermark shows and sometimes it doesn't (all in the same document). When it doesn't appear it does flash briefly before loading the page, when it appears, well it appears fine. I have tried just about everything I can think of using: WIN95, Acrobat 3.1 or Acrobat 4.0, Adobe PS 4.1 or 4.2, the watermark is a light grey, and placed in the background. Does anyone have any possible solutions? Can Watermarks be added using PDFmark? Or do I need to purchase a plug-in? (Would like to be able to do this via an Adobe PS driver.) Thanx in advance!!!!!! Bruce A. Boman baboman@frii.com --------------52C9C7B15E443EEBC0F0ACF4 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="baboman.vcf" Content-Description: Card for Bruce A. 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Nevada Place, Unit 214;Lakewood;CO;80228;USA version:2.1 email;internet:baboman@frii.com or baboman@ netscape.net x-mozilla-cpt:;4560 fn:Bruce Boman end:vcard --------------52C9C7B15E443EEBC0F0ACF4-- _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 22-Jun-1999 0:56:42-GMT,3515;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA17245 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 18:56:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA16556; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 19:54:06 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 21 Jun 1999 19:52:54 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA16430; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 19:52:53 -0500 X-Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated X-Division: Core Technologies X-Department: Product Interoperability Analysis X-URL: Message-Id: <4.1.19990621174625.00a15660@mail-303> X-Sender: isaacs@mail-303 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 17:51:44 -0700 To: "Bruce A. Boman" From: Dov Isaacs Subject: Re: [PDF] adding a watermark Cc: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com In-Reply-To: <376EDB0A.F20215F@frii.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Bruce, The "watermark" feature of AdobePS is done via the driver either underlaying or overlaying the current page's objects with the watermark text. PostScript does not currently support transparency. As such, the ability to see a watermark that was underlayed depends on the objects on the page. The fact that the watermark briefly flashes on the screen as you display the page shows that the data was not lost, but is simply being covered up by the objects above it. And whether the page objects cover the watermark depends on what type of objects they are and how the application program interacts with the driver. Text over a watermark generally works fine, unless the application programs requests that the driver clear the area in which the text is being written to white. Vector drawings and images will fully cover the watermark. - Dov At 6/21/99 05:38 PM , Bruce A. Boman wrote: >HELP! > >I am experiencing problems printing a PDF file using Adobe PS Driver and >adding a watermark which I then re-distill so the PDF has the watermark. >I have done this before and had no problems, but today sometimes the >watermark shows and sometimes it doesn't (all in the same document). >When it doesn't appear it does flash briefly before loading the page, >when it appears, well it appears fine. I have tried just about >everything I can think of using: WIN95, Acrobat 3.1 or Acrobat 4.0, >Adobe PS 4.1 or 4.2, the watermark is a light grey, and placed in the >background. > >Does anyone have any possible solutions? Can Watermarks be added using >PDFmark? Or do I need to purchase a plug-in? (Would like to be able to >do this via an Adobe PS driver.) > >Thanx in advance!!!!!! > >Bruce A. Boman >baboman@frii.com > > > _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 22-Jun-1999 0:57:14-GMT,2185;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA17256 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 18:57:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA16758; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 19:56:15 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 21 Jun 1999 19:55:09 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA16653; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 19:55:05 -0500 Message-ID: <015401bebc48$78318110$69de05c6@homeaptiva> From: "Steve Rindsberg" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] Javascript: Wait function Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 20:45:03 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > > wait(2); > this.zoom = 100; > wait(4); > this.zoom = 200; > >only the last instance actually works. Why? > I'm Java-Clueless, Duff, but if it were VB, I'd assume that you're getting bitten by the same thing that always bites me ... assuming that each command waits for the previous command to complete before executing. In VB, I'd try to do something like this using events. Wait(n) would fire an event when the wait timeout expired, and the event would trigger the next step. Does Javascript do events? _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 22-Jun-1999 3:21:31-GMT,5764;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA20637 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 21:21:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA29205; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 22:19:50 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 21 Jun 1999 22:16:41 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA28947; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 22:16:39 -0500 Message-ID: <003301bebc5e$391863c0$0500a8c0@ils5> From: "Phil Sutcliffe" To: "PDF Discussion List" Subject: [PDF] Graphic as an underlay Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 13:20:46 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0030_01BEBCB2.09BF86E0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0030_01BEBCB2.09BF86E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I need to place a full page graphic as an underlay on each page of a = large (up to 30,000 page) pdf document. I have tried various methods for = doing this with limited success. =20 The file in question first exists as postscript. I have tried adding the = graphic to the postscript file to achieve the desired result, however, = this takes far too long to distil and the file size of the distilled PDF = blows out too much. Another method tried was the use of templates. This method was both fast = and efficient but it seems it is impossible to have a template as an = "underlay" or to make the bitmap graphic transparent so as to have the = text visible over the graphic. This resulted in the graphic "overlaying" = the text and making it invisible. I have also looked at perhaps purchasing commercial software to do this = task and have trialled demo versions of a couple of candidates = (PDFProtector being one), but I have concerns about the amount of time = to process and file size "blow out" using these also. Is anyone aware of an efficient method of achieving this?=20 How difficult is it to write plug-ins for exchange and is it viable to = take this approach (ie write my own)? Is is possible to write a javascript to do this? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Phil. ------=_NextPart_000_0030_01BEBCB2.09BF86E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I need to place a full page graphic = as an=20 underlay on each page of a large (up to 30,000 page) pdf document. I = have tried=20 various methods for doing this with limited success.
 
The file in question first exists as postscript. I = have tried=20 adding the graphic to the postscript file to achieve the desired result, = however, this takes far too long to distil and the file size of the = distilled=20 PDF blows out too much.
 
Another method tried was the use of templates. This = method was=20 both fast and efficient but it seems it is impossible to have a template = as an=20 "underlay" or to make the bitmap graphic transparent so as to = have the=20 text visible over the graphic. This resulted in the graphic=20 "overlaying" the text and making it invisible.
 
I have also looked at perhaps purchasing commercial = software=20 to do this task and have trialled demo versions of a couple of = candidates=20 (PDFProtector being one), but I have concerns about the amount of time = to=20 process and file size "blow out" using these = also.
 
Is anyone aware of an efficient method of achieving = this?=20
How difficult is it to write plug-ins for exchange = and is it=20 viable to take this approach (ie write my own)?
Is is possible to write a javascript to do = this?
 
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
 
Thanks,
 
Phil.
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_0030_01BEBCB2.09BF86E0-- _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 22-Jun-1999 3:35:37-GMT,2810;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA20968 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 21:35:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA30353; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 22:33:58 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 21 Jun 1999 22:31:30 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA30104; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 22:31:28 -0500 Message-ID: <50AFCE9910E9D211982E00608CF26D1E0ABCBE@mail.roundtable.com.au> From: Karl De Abrew To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Graphic as an underlay Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 13:32:22 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hello Phil, > Is anyone aware of an efficient method of achieving this? > How difficult is it to write plug-ins for exchange and is it viable to take this approach (ie write my own)? > Is is possible to write a javascript to do this? If you are using the PDF templates example on our Code Cuts site, "Adding `stamps' or `watermarks' to your PDFs" see - http://www.codecuts.com/mainpage.asp?MenuID=150&WebPageID=344 then you can alter the page spawning to place the template page under the text or existing page by adding a parameter to the spawnPageFromTemplate method as follows... ----------------- var iNumPages = this.numPages; console.println(iNumPages); for (i = 1; i < iNumPages; i++) { console.println(i); // The parameter added to the end of the spawnPageFromTemplate method has the following syntax // If bInsert is specified then the template is inserted before the page specified by nPage (i here) as opposed to being overlaid on top of that page this.spawnPageFromTemplate("OfficialRelease", i, true, true); // ************* I have added a parameter here 'true' } ----------------- I hope this helps. regards, Karl De Abrew karl@PlanetPDF.com Planet PDF - Code Cuts, AcroBuddies and PD FStore http://www.PlanetPDF.com/ _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 22-Jun-1999 3:52:29-GMT,2416;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA21371 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 21:52:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA31611; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 22:50:01 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 21 Jun 1999 22:47:26 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA31316; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 22:47:16 -0500 Message-ID: From: Gregory Tod To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Graphic as an underlay Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 13:46:18 +1000 X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Phil Sutcliffe wrote: > Another method tried was the use of templates. This method was both > fast and efficient but it seems it is impossible to have a template as > an "underlay" or to make the bitmap graphic transparent so as to have > the text visible over the graphic. This resulted in the graphic > "overlaying" the text and making it invisible. > I write: I am not familiar with what you mean by 'templates' however if this method worked for you maybe you can make your graphic an 'imagemask' and not an image. If it is a mask you should be able to see 'through the white bits'. You may even be able to edit the resultant PDF to make your graphic an imagemask after PDF creation (this could be messy). But if it's color it's not so easy... E-mail me direct for gory details (AFAIK them). Gregory Tod Chelsea Images _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 22-Jun-1999 5:29:46-GMT,2789;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA23758 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 23:29:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA05991; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 00:23:49 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 22 Jun 1999 00:20:01 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA05741; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 00:19:59 -0500 Message-ID: <000a01bebc6f$74f41ea0$0500a8c0@ils5> From: "Phil Sutcliffe" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] Graphic as an underlay Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 15:24:08 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Karl wrote: >// If bInsert is specified then the template is inserted before the page >specified by nPage (i here) as opposed to being overlaid on top of that >page > this.spawnPageFromTemplate("OfficialRelease", i, true, true); // >************* I have added a parameter here 'true' I had indeed tried using the binsert parameter as you've described some time ago, however it does not seem to work as described in the Acrobat Forms Javascript Object Specification (or we've both misunderstood what it says). If I have binsert as true, the template is overlaid on top of the text (this also appears to be the default, not false as in the AFJOS). If binsert is false, the template is inserted n times before the specified page (in this case described below, page 1). The code below results in the template (by itself) being inserted 6 times after page 10, without any underlying text, followed by the rest of the document. for (i = 10; i < 16; i++) { console.println(i); this.spawnPageFromTemplate("OfficialRelease", i, true, false); // } Is this a bug in Acrobat 4.0 or am I just missing something? Phil. _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 22-Jun-1999 5:33:03-GMT,2022;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA23861 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 23:33:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA06503; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 00:32:30 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 22 Jun 1999 00:31:22 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA06421; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 00:31:20 -0500 Message-ID: <000201bebc71$093be880$0500a8c0@ils5> From: "Phil Sutcliffe" To: "PDF Discussion List" Subject: Re: [PDF] Graphic as an underlay Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 15:35:26 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Phil wrote: >If I have binsert as true, the template is overlaid on top of the text (this >also appears to be the default, not false as in the AFJOS). If binsert is >false, the template is inserted n times before the specified page (in this >case described below, page 1). > Sorry folks, that should have been n times after page 10. Phil. _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 22-Jun-1999 11:50:31-GMT,4154;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA02455 for ; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 05:50:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA25781; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 06:48:18 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 22 Jun 1999 06:45:57 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA25493; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 06:45:55 -0500 Message-ID: <376F78A7.B372E9D3@ameritech.net> Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 07:51:03 -0400 From: William J Ryan X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (Win98; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF and Xerox Docutech References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Thanks for the response, Gregory. I'm quite new to "docutech-nology" and usually work closely with a laser programmer when setting up production jobs. If fact, my comment about '.pdf directly to Docutech' isn't complety accurate - I recall someone talking about the .pdf having to be "ripped", which I believe converts it to PS code. On the subject of third-party software - yes, I'm interested in any leads you can provide. We are VB/C programmers and do know some PS programmers; perhaps by combining skills and knowledge we can figure out how to add the limited set of media commands needed for our project. Thanks again, Bill Ryan Gregory Tod wrote: > The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > > Bill Ryan wrote: > > The .pdf would be created using a database report-writing tool. We'd > > like to > > pass this .pdf file to the Docutech and somehow include Xerox commands > > to do things such as staple and pull sheets from a colored paper tray. > > > I write: > We don't have a Docutech but rather a Docuprint. I think they may be > considered similar for this discussion however I'm not sure especially > when you mention you have sent a PDF straight to the DT - our DP only > likes Postscript and PCL. > > Anyway, I've wanted to do the same as you (at least changing trays) and > investigations so far reveal that there is no easy way at present. This > sort of thing is what Adobe's Portable Job Ticket Format (PJTF) is > supposed to address but Xerox does not currently support such. > > Some people suggested a plug-in for Exchange (or Reader) may be the best > way to put special things in the Postscript generated when you print the > PDF but for various reasons we are not going to try this. > > Instead we will be modifying some freely available software to convert > out PDFs to Postscript wth the various media commands being added at > that stage. I imagine you could use a similar technique to solve your > problem but it would involve a good knowledge of Postscript and some C > programming. I too hope there is an easier way... > > Maybe e-mail me directly if you want more detailed information. > > Gregory Tod > Chelsea Images > _ > ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ > <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> > <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> > ___________________________________________________________ _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 22-Jun-1999 11:58:29-GMT,1915;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA02636 for ; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 05:58:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA26255; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 06:53:13 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 22 Jun 1999 06:51:59 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA26026; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 06:51:57 -0500 From: rick.sapir@glbsoft.com Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 08:50:13 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Color bookmarks Receipt-Requested-To: rick.sapir@gsntone.glbsoft.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Mailer: TFS Gateway /221040958/221001528/221100226/300440919/ Message-Id: <99Jun22.075437edt.34564@gateway.glbsoft.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id GAA26022 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Is it possible to add colored bookmarks in Exchange 3.01 (Win95)? How about in 4.0? Thanks, +-------------------> | Rick Sapir | Global Software, Inc. | Raleigh, NC USA | rick.sapir@glbsoft.com +-------------------> _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 22-Jun-1999 12:07:12-GMT,2175;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA02809 for ; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 06:07:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA27409; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 07:06:15 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 22 Jun 1999 07:05:01 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA27254; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 07:05:00 -0500 Message-ID: <62F4B1B06502D311B22F0008C78CBE9A03705F@PSI-EXCH1> From: "Thornton, Doug" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Word Perfect and Acrobat.....HELP!!!! Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 08:04:52 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I am still trying to publish a very large document with hyperlinks in PDF format. There seems to be no way to do this with Word Perfect. Even with WP9 the hyperlinks do not carry through. Adobe seems to have written a script to do this in word, but word is notoriously bad with large complex documents. My question is: Does anyone know of a way to convert the scripts (or macros, or whatever it is) from word to word perfect. Or: does anyone know what is done by the script, I would attempt to write macros myself if i was more knowledgeable of what they are doing. Thanks in advance Doug _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 22-Jun-1999 12:48:34-GMT,3036;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA03732 for ; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 06:48:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA31451; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 07:47:54 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 22 Jun 1999 07:46:25 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA31236; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 07:46:24 -0500 X-Sender: prodok@pop.eunet.ch Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <62F4B1B06502D311B22F0008C78CBE9A03705F@PSI-EXCH1> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 14:47:26 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Max Wyss Subject: Re: [PDF] Word Perfect and Acrobat.....HELP!!!! Cc: "Thornton, Doug" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Doug, if there is no pre-cooked solution around, you could manually do what all those macros do behind the screens. You would create smallest EPS files which contain the PDFMARK commands for the links or whatever else you want to do. You place these EPS files at the correct locations, and send the final document through a PostScript printer driver to Distiller. You find more about the PDFMARK commands in the PDFMARK Reference Manual, which can be accessed through the Help menu in Distiller 4. Hope, this can help. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch WWW: http://www.prodok.ch/prodok [ Bridging the Knowledge Gap ] ______________________ >I am still trying to publish a very large document with hyperlinks in PDF >format. >There seems to be no way to do this with Word Perfect. Even with WP9 the >hyperlinks do not carry through. > >Adobe seems to have written a script to do this in word, but word is >notoriously bad with large complex documents. > >My question is: Does anyone know of a way to convert the scripts (or >macros, or whatever it is) from word to word perfect. > >Or: does anyone know what is done by the script, I would attempt to write >macros myself if i was more knowledgeable of what they are doing. > >Thanks in advance > >Doug _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 22-Jun-1999 12:58:33-GMT,1846;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA03943 for ; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 06:58:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA32213; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 07:56:49 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 22 Jun 1999 07:55:31 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA32104; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 07:55:29 -0500 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 13:52:39 +0100 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Ron Drinkwater Subject: [PDF] article view MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 4.02 M Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I am linking using invisible forms from book tabs to an articles. I would rather 'go to view' but it says this is not available. The form links ok but it opens to almost fill the page. I have tried making the border of the article fill the page but the size of the view does not change. Is there anywhere I can set the size of the article view. -- regards Ron _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 22-Jun-1999 13:38:22-GMT,2434;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA05042 for ; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 07:38:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA03411; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 08:37:42 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 22 Jun 1999 08:36:24 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA03199; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 08:36:13 -0500 Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 09:35:12 -0400 From: Michael Vorel Subject: RE: [PDF] NT Postscript Driver To: "INTERNET:pdf@lists.pdfzone.com" Message-ID: <199906220935_MC2-7A41-B855@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id IAA03193 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Message text written by INTERNET:pdf@lists.pdfzone.com >Paul- I have never found an NT ppd that allows a bleed to the page edge, and I hope someone responds that they have one. I have spoken with HP, Tektronix, and Microsoft about this 3 time in the last 12 months... no solution they knew of... but there's got to be a one out there?! Worse case you can use the PDF writer with no margins.< There are PPD's that support paper sizes larger than 11"x17" (EFI for Canon & Xerox color copiers). Paper size is 12"x18". Perhaps you can create your pages with one of these PPD's and then distill? If you have more questions, I can be reached offline as well.... Michael Knowledge is Power, yet True Power is Communicating Knowledge (unknown author) mvorel@compuserve.com _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 22-Jun-1999 14:31:26-GMT,9716;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA06658 for ; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 08:31:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA10478; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 09:30:52 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 22 Jun 1999 09:29:18 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA10244; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 09:29:11 -0500 Message-ID: <91B0C432E1D8D111917000805F7DEB350C27FE@HQMAIN> From: Sheila Mahoney To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] automating links/pdfmarks? Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 10:29:24 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Our ISIToolbox is specifically designed to automatically create bookmarks using varying font information within documents. There's a free trial download (15 days) at our website--- www.imagesolutions.com Feel free to contact me direct if you have any questions -Sheila sheilam@imagesolutions.com > -----Original Message----- > From: Hagar, Laura M [SMTP:laura.m.hagar@lmco.com] > Sent: Monday, June 21, 1999 4:51 PM > To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' > Subject: RE: [PDF] automating links/pdfmarks? > > > The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > > Au contrare' (pardon my bad french spelling) > > Fonts do play a role in Infolinker--as we found out. > We had many documents with different sizes and styles of fonts for > headings. > All we asked our rule file to do with headings was to find them and > create > links automatically. Because of the difference in fonts, Infolinker > wouldn't > work 100%. > You may wish to call Sue in Tech Support and clarify with her. > > That was one of our main reasons for rejecting the product. > If all our books had been the same, it wouldn't have mattered. (We > can't > make people (assorted vendors) change their products after the fact > (creation).) > > Laura M. Hagar > L-245 Documentation > Lockheed Martin Astronautics > > > > ---------- > > From: Mera, Jose[SMTP:Jose_Mera@ATK.COM] > > Reply To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > > Sent: Monday, June 21, 1999 1:41 PM > > To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' > > Subject: RE: [PDF] automating links/pdfmarks? > > > > > > The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ > > __________________________________________________________________ > > > > Laura, > > > > Thanks for the nice words about InfoLinker. However, I must clarify > one > > point. InfoLinker does its linking and bookmarking based on the > text > > only. > > That is irrespective of font type or size. You may be confused with > > Compose, which relies on font. > > > > Jose Mera > > DocMaestro Business Area Manager > > Alliant Techsystems, Inc. > > 13133 34th Street N. > > Clearwater, Florida 33762 > > Tel: 727/572-2491 > > E-mail: jose_mera@atk.com > > Web: http://DocMaestro.atk.com > > > > > ---------- > > > From: Hagar, Laura M[SMTP:laura.m.hagar@lmco.com] > > > Reply To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > > > Sent: Monday, June 21, 1999 12:38 PM > > > To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' > > > Subject: RE: [PDF] automating links/pdfmarks? > > > > > > > > > The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ > > > __________________________________________________________________ > > > > > > I gave the InfoLinker product a test drive on some of our books. > > > I can recommend it highly---given 1 caveat. > > > The text in your books must be the same type font; all headings > (if > > > required > > > for links) must be the same type font size. > > > > > > Aside from that little bit of difficulty, I really liked the > product. > > > Unfortunately, our documents don't fit that so we couldn't use it. > > > > > > I can also say that they have great tech support. Sue worked with > me > > > extensively to resolves issues and come up rule files that almost > did > > what > > > we wanted. > > > > > > Our dealings with the sales people was also positive. > > > > > > I sure wish we could have used their tool. > > > > > > Hope you try it and find that it fits your need, Roberta. > > > > > > > > > Laura M. Hagar > > > L-245 Documentation > > > Lockheed Martin Astronautics > > > > > > > > > > ---------- > > > > From: Mera, Jose[SMTP:Jose_Mera@ATK.COM] > > > > Reply To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > > > > Sent: Friday, June 18, 1999 5:51 AM > > > > To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'; 'rpavol@amsite.com' > > > > Subject: RE: [PDF] automating links/pdfmarks? > > > > > > > > > > > > The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by PDFzone.COM > > > > _________________________________________________________ > > > > > > > > Alliant Techsystems' InfoLinker product does exactly what you > want, > > and > > > > more. InfoLinker is an Acrobat Exchange plug-in that automates > the > > > > process > > > > of adding links and bookmarks to PDFs. It has a rule based > engine. > > The > > > > rules define the source and destination of the link. So in your > case > > a > > > > rule > > > > can be written that says to link any occurrence of "See [phrase] > > > Reference > > > > Manual" link it to [phrase].pdf. The engine uses text, so the > > location > > > > of > > > > the references does not matter. Also, when you update your > document > > and > > > > the > > > > references moves within the page, so will the links when you > > re-process > > > > the > > > > PDF through InfoLinker, using the same rule set. You can > combine the > > > text > > > > rules with zones and/or page ranges to limit where you link as > well. > > > > > > > > Contact me directly if you have any questions. > > > > > > > > Jose Mera > > > > DocMaestro Business Area Manager > > > > Alliant Techsystems, Inc. > > > > 13133 34th Street N. > > > > Clearwater, Florida 33762 > > > > Tel: 727/572-2491 > > > > E-mail: jose_mera@atk.com > > > > Web: http://DocMaestro.atk.com > > > > > > > > > ---------- > > > > > From: Roberta Pavol[SMTP:rpavol@amsite.com] > > > > > Reply To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > > > > > Sent: Thursday, June 17, 1999 4:30 PM > > > > > To: PDF email list > > > > > Subject: [PDF] automating links/pdfmarks? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The PDF list is a free resource hosted & managed by > PDFzone.COM > > > > > _________________________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > Memo Subjectutomating links/pdfmarks? 6/17/99 > > 4:24 > > > > PM > > > > > Is it possible through pdfmarks (or other means) to have a > link > > > created > > > > to > > > > > open another file. The link would be drawn everyplace certain > text > > > > appears > > > > > in a file. These would be Quark files and the case I'm talking > about > > > is > > > > if > > > > > the text > > > > > > > > > > See XYZ Reference Manual > > > > > appears on a page in a document, then a link is created to > open > > > another > > > > > file. > > > > > > > > > > This may not be possible since I may need the actual > coordinates and > > > the > > > > > location of this text on the page will vary from page to page. > > > > > > > > > > This would be to eliminate searching a document for this text > and > > then > > > > > manually drawing a link. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > > > > > > > > Roberta Pavol > > > > > > > > > > _ > > > > > ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ > > > > > <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for > Java > > -> > > > > > <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: > http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> > > > > > ___________________________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > _ > > > > ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ > > > > <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for > Java -> > > > > <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ > -> > > > > ___________________________________________________________ > > > > > > > _ > > > ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ > > > <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java > -> > > > <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> > > > ___________________________________________________________ > > > > > _ > > ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ > > <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java > -> > > <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> > > ___________________________________________________________ > > > _ > ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ > <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> > <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> > ___________________________________________________________ _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 22-Jun-1999 14:36:56-GMT,2654;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA06805 for ; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 08:36:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA11142; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 09:36:25 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 22 Jun 1999 09:35:14 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA10963; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 09:35:07 -0500 Message-ID: <006d01bebcbb$ed0e5bc0$d83670c2@win95> From: "Peter Mathews" To: Cc: Subject: [PDF] Graphics as a watermark Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 15:19:06 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Phil PDF Protector should do as you want, it should not increase the file size unduly (as it references the graphic rather that pastes it on each page), and will cope with the number of pages you need, as it is within the page limit of Exchange. The speed of the plug-in's operations though is dependent on the processor speed/memory/disk configuration you have. Also, the price of the plug-in will be cheaper than developing it yourself surely? Contact me off-line for any other questions you may have. Peter. Note our new web address and our new web site, visit today. -- /// --- /// --- // Computerstream Limited -- // // // // -- // 70 Tamworth Road - // + -- // + // Ashby de la Zouch // + // + // Leicestershire --// // --// // // LE65 2PR, UK -- /// /// -- /////// Tel: (+44) (0) 1530 412790 Fax: (+44) (0) 1530 564450 www.computerstream.co.uk _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 22-Jun-1999 14:37:00-GMT,2266;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA06812 for ; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 08:36:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA11194; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 09:36:36 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 22 Jun 1999 09:35:19 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA10978; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 09:35:09 -0500 Message-ID: <006e01bebcbb$eeca63a0$d83670c2@win95> From: "Peter Mathews" To: Cc: , Subject: [PDF] Xerox Docutech printing Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 15:29:54 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ List users might be interested in a white paper on our web site (www.computerstream.co.uk) which describes our approach to web-based printing for high volume digital printers (a.k.a. Docutech/Kodak (Heidelberg) Digisource/ etc), and the PDF Publisher product. This allows the building of custom document jobs, (including mailmerging, filemerging, watermarking) and selecting printer options (folding, stitching, stapling, booklet building etc). If you have any difficulty getting it, let me know off-list and I'll email you a copy. Peter. _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 22-Jun-1999 15:11:35-GMT,2128;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA07882 for ; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 09:11:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA15286; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 10:11:04 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 22 Jun 1999 10:09:23 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA15067; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 10:09:22 -0500 X-Sender: prodok@pop.eunet.ch Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 16:58:46 +0200 To: PDF List Posting From: Max Wyss Subject: [PDF] Distiller: Job Options in French Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ A translator friend of mine is currently working on a text about Distiller to be translated to French. One of the open points is the correct term Adobe uses for the Job Options menu item in Distiller. Could someone out there who has the French version of Distiller available have a quick look and let me know the correct term. Thanks a lot in advance. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch WWW: http://www.prodok.ch/prodok [ Bridging the Knowledge Gap ] _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 22-Jun-1999 18:51:43-GMT,2158;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA15013 for ; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 12:51:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA03796; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 13:47:26 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 22 Jun 1999 13:44:49 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA03475; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 13:44:47 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: shell18.ba.best.com: fastio owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 11:44:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Sam Ohzawa X-Sender: fastio@shell18.ba.best.com To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Zapf Dingbats not printing Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I had a similar experience with Symbol and ZapfDingbats (on-screen rendering OK, but no printing to PostScript printer) when we attempted to use "MacRomanEncoding" (anything) with the font. (We directly generate PDF files programatically via a C library, ClibPDF.) Using no /Encoding specification in the font object for Symbol and ZapfDingbats solved the problem. This was not just one or two chars out of many, so the problem may be different, but you must pretty much use the build-in encoding of fonts for these non-roman fonts. _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 22-Jun-1999 22:38:31-GMT,2666;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA21505 for ; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 16:38:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA23830; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 17:33:35 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 22 Jun 1999 17:31:43 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA23631; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 17:31:41 -0500 Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 18:30:01 -0400 From: Michael Vorel Subject: [PDF] Creating PostScript under Windows NT 4.0 To: "INTERNET:pdf@lists.pdfzone.com" Message-ID: <199906221830_MC2-7A54-F7B8@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id RAA23627 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Message text written by INTERNET:pdf@lists.pdfzone.com >Specifically, all the fonts referenced on a page are downloaded in the page image. This makes the PostScript files gargantuan, and it slows the Distiller down to less than a crawl. (This is in fact the real problem I am trying to solve!) Does anyone know how to turn this option off in Windows NT 4.0?< Tommy, if you have not discovered how to turn off font management on NT try this: With "admin" rights on the NT server managing the printer queue 1) open the printer queue 2) select Printer Document Defaults "Advanced" tab True Type fonts has two options: Download or Substitute Make your changes and fonts will not be downloaded in your file.... Expect there may be some font changes in the resulting documents..... I hope this helps.. Michael Knowledge is Power, yet True Power is Communicating Knowledge (unknown author) mvorel@compuserve.com _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 22-Jun-1999 22:38:34-GMT,2304;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA21512 for ; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 16:38:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA23829; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 17:33:35 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 22 Jun 1999 17:31:54 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA23660; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 17:31:53 -0500 Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 18:29:57 -0400 From: Michael Vorel Subject: Antwort: Re: [PDF] Microsoft Font Embedding / Word As Layout Program / whatever To: "INTERNET:pdf@lists.pdfzone.com" Message-ID: <199906221830_MC2-7A54-F7B5@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id RAA23656 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Message text written by INTERNET:pdf@lists.pdfzone.com >>just tell the driver to map TT to the corresponding T1. My printerdriver (adobePS) does not allow me to map any T1 font, as long as ATM is not installed ... or have i missed something?< Laura, On my system (NT 4.0 Workstation and Server) I can direct the printer to substitute TT fonts to map to any native fonts in the printer. I believe many PPD's list or name the native fonts just to ensure correct font calls...... Michael Knowledge is Power, yet True Power is Communicating Knowledge (unknown author) mvorel@compuserve.com _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 23-Jun-1999 2:50:03-GMT,2327;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA27837 for ; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 20:50:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA09218; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 21:47:48 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 22 Jun 1999 21:45:25 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA09019; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 21:45:23 -0500 Message-ID: <000b01bebd21$bdadb180$324370d8@concentric.net> From: "M. Olenick" To: References: <199906221830_MC2-7A54-F7B8@compuserve.com> Subject: [PDF] Registration in Reader vs. Exchange Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 19:40:20 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ When I print the same PDF in Reader the vertical registration is different than in Exchange. I've tried this on different computers (using the same PDF) and on different printers and the result is consistent: PDF's printed via Exchange seem to have a wider top margin than those printed with Reader. Am I loosing my mind? I thought all PDF's printed the same on all platforms...? Has anybody else seem this behavior? If so does anybody know a workaround? I'll try calling Adobe when they open tomorrow but any help from this group would be greatly appreciated. Michael O. olenick@olen.com _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 23-Jun-1999 4:10:06-GMT,2329;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA29657 for ; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 22:10:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA14110; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 23:08:20 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 22 Jun 1999 23:06:47 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA13944; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 23:06:45 -0500 Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 21:06:42 -0700 (PDT) From: George Johnson To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Registration in Reader vs. Exchange In-Reply-To: <000b01bebd21$bdadb180$324370d8@concentric.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > When I print the same PDF in Reader the vertical registration is different > than in Exchange. I've tried this on different computers (using the same > PDF) and on different printers and the result is consistent: PDF's printed > via Exchange seem to have a wider top margin than those printed with Reader. > > Am I loosing my mind? I thought all PDF's printed the same on all > platforms...? Has anybody else seem this behavior? If so does anybody know > a workaround? I'll try calling Adobe when they open tomorrow but any help > from this group would be greatly appreciated. > > Michael O. > olenick@olen.com Check the "Shrink to Fit" checkbox in the Print dialog box. It is probably checked in Reader and unchecked in Exchange. _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 23-Jun-1999 4:34:37-GMT,3911;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA00347 for ; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 22:34:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA15560; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 23:33:38 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 22 Jun 1999 23:32:30 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA15489; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 23:32:26 -0500 Message-ID: <001101bebd30$b6b2bec0$324370d8@concentric.net> From: "M. Olenick" To: References: Subject: Re: [PDF] Registration in Reader vs. Exchange Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 21:27:31 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Unfortunately I think I've found what's wrong. It's not Reader vs. Exchange at all: some Adobe products (PageMaker and Acrobat) mess up the vertical alignment when printing to certain HP DeskJet printers. Vertical alignment is about 5/16ths of an inch off, a number that seems oddly consistent looking at a few entries in Adobe's support database. Adobe's answer is to "Print to a Postscript printer" but given the number of PCL printers vs. the number of PS printers this isn't really acceptable. Luckily I'm generating my PDF's dynamically so I'll just have to modify my generation routines to create different positioning depending upon which printer the user has. I'm surprised this doesn't come up more often though... Thanks for the help though... Michael. ----- Original Message ----- From: George Johnson To: Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 1999 9:06 PM Subject: Re: [PDF] Registration in Reader vs. Exchange > > The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > > > When I print the same PDF in Reader the vertical registration is different > > than in Exchange. I've tried this on different computers (using the same > > PDF) and on different printers and the result is consistent: PDF's printed > > via Exchange seem to have a wider top margin than those printed with Reader. > > > > Am I loosing my mind? I thought all PDF's printed the same on all > > platforms...? Has anybody else seem this behavior? If so does anybody know > > a workaround? I'll try calling Adobe when they open tomorrow but any help > > from this group would be greatly appreciated. > > > > Michael O. > > olenick@olen.com > > Check the "Shrink to Fit" checkbox in the Print dialog box. It is probably > checked in Reader and unchecked in Exchange. > > _ > ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ > <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> > <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> > ___________________________________________________________ > _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 23-Jun-1999 9:52:53-GMT,2577;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA07667 for ; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 03:52:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA31277; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 04:44:31 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 23 Jun 1999 04:38:29 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA30972; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 04:38:27 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Zapf Dingbats not printing Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 10:38:04 +0100 Message-ID: <003901bebd5c$184ea240$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > I had a similar experience with Symbol and ZapfDingbats > (on-screen rendering OK, but no printing to PostScript > printer) when we attempted to use "MacRomanEncoding" > (anything) with the font. (We directly generate > PDF files programatically via a C library, ClibPDF.) > > Using no /Encoding specification in the font object > for Symbol and ZapfDingbats solved the problem. I'd expect something like that. The characters in each font have names, and the names in ZapfDingbats and Symbol don't match anything in the standard encodings. So, each character you attempt to show will map to a name, which is absent in the font, so you see nothing. It's something of a puzzle why you should see anything on screen. Sounds as though Reader is ignoring the encoding, which is naughty of it. Aandi _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 23-Jun-1999 11:40:26-GMT,2988;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA09982 for ; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 05:40:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA04424; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 06:38:34 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 23 Jun 1999 06:36:59 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA04256; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 06:36:57 -0500 Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 17:15:49 +0530 (GMT) From: Murali Krishnan X-Sender: ujaymu01@obelix To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Problems faced in EPS Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hello, We have some EPS image files, which are to be printed.I have tried opening the EPS files in the following applications: 1) Acrobat Distiller (Convert to PDF and Print) 2) Adobe Photoshop 3) Adobe Illustrator 4) QuarkXpress 5) Ghostscript 6) Freehand Some files open in Illustrator, some not. Some other open in Ghostscript and some other in Freehand. The problem is, even if some files open, we get a cross mark (a thick cross mark) in the place of the image. Moreover, we are not able to print the files. It pop ups the following errors message: " An EPS containing binary data and will not print correctly Continue processing yes NO" If we press no, the job is cancelled. If we press yes, an error message is printed instead of the image. I am not able to ascertain whether the problem is with the images, or with the printer, or anyother problem. Even i tried converting the file to PDF and then take a print out, but that was also not working. Since, the PDF files themselves are not opening in Exchange. We are finding it very difficult to resolve the problem. Any ideas and suggestions in this regard would be of great help for us. Thanks & Regards, Murali.J "HAVE A NICE DAY" ******************************************************************************* NATURE NEVER DID BETRAY THE HEART THAT LOVED HER -- William Wordsworth ******************************************************************************* _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 23-Jun-1999 11:54:10-GMT,2848;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA10278 for ; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 05:54:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA05405; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 06:53:14 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 23 Jun 1999 06:52:07 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA05220; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 06:52:04 -0500 Message-Id: <199906231151.EAA58915@mail.inficad.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 04:35:24 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Registration in Reader vs. Exchange From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > When I print the same PDF in Reader the vertical registration is different > than in Exchange. I've tried this on different computers (using the same > PDF) and on different printers and the result is consistent: PDF's printed > via Exchange seem to have a wider top margin than those printed with Reader. > > Am I loosing my mind? I thought all PDF's printed the same on all > platforms...? Has anybody else seem this behavior? If so does anybody know > a workaround? I'll try calling Adobe when they open tomorrow but any help > from this group would be greatly appreciated. > > Michael O. > olenick@olen.com In the Print Dialog box for Reader, Exchange or Acrobat, there's a check box that says "Fit to Page". Make sure you don't have this checked in one of your applications. It *will* be checked by default. Rich ---------------------------------------------------------------- Rich Sprague PDF Solutions/Consulting (480) 860-0050 Print Management & Production richsprague@inficad.com 4-Color Digital Printing http://www.inficad.com/~richsprague Sheetfed & Web Printing *38* years experience ---------------------------------------------------------------- _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 23-Jun-1999 11:58:28-GMT,4067;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA10386 for ; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 05:58:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA05488; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 06:54:14 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 23 Jun 1999 06:53:09 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA05367; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 06:53:06 -0500 Message-ID: <62F4B1B06502D311B22F0008C78CBE9A037061@PSI-EXCH1> From: "Thornton, Doug" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Problems faced in EPS Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 07:52:55 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ This all sounds normal. An EPS file will not display in your standart word processor, instead a big bold X or the word to the effect..."This file contains postscrip data" will be displayed. Usually they can be printed to a "Postscript" printer. My experience is that if you run them through Acrobat Distiller, you will be able to view and print (non postscript) the files. If not, I would bet on the problem being with the EPS file. Good luck -----Original Message----- From: Murali Krishnan [mailto:ujaymu01@thiru.vetri.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 1999 7:46 AM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Problems faced in EPS The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hello, We have some EPS image files, which are to be printed.I have tried opening the EPS files in the following applications: 1) Acrobat Distiller (Convert to PDF and Print) 2) Adobe Photoshop 3) Adobe Illustrator 4) QuarkXpress 5) Ghostscript 6) Freehand Some files open in Illustrator, some not. Some other open in Ghostscript and some other in Freehand. The problem is, even if some files open, we get a cross mark (a thick cross mark) in the place of the image. Moreover, we are not able to print the files. It pop ups the following errors message: " An EPS containing binary data and will not print correctly Continue processing yes NO" If we press no, the job is cancelled. If we press yes, an error message is printed instead of the image. I am not able to ascertain whether the problem is with the images, or with the printer, or anyother problem. Even i tried converting the file to PDF and then take a print out, but that was also not working. Since, the PDF files themselves are not opening in Exchange. We are finding it very difficult to resolve the problem. Any ideas and suggestions in this regard would be of great help for us. Thanks & Regards, Murali.J "HAVE A NICE DAY" **************************************************************************** *** NATURE NEVER DID BETRAY THE HEART THAT LOVED HER -- William Wordsworth **************************************************************************** *** _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 23-Jun-1999 12:22:17-GMT,3910;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA10918 for ; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 06:22:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA07670; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 07:21:35 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 23 Jun 1999 07:20:08 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA07544; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 07:20:06 -0500 Message-ID: <62F4B1B06502D311B22F0008C78CBE9A037062@PSI-EXCH1> From: "Thornton, Doug" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Problems faced in EPS Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 08:19:56 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ One more thing about EPS files Some EPS files have "thumbnails" (lower quailty representation of what is in the file, in a format that will be viewable) attached. If there is a thumbnail, you can see the file in some applications. You really don't see the file but see the thumbnail. -----Original Message----- From: Murali Krishnan [mailto:ujaymu01@thiru.vetri.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 1999 7:46 AM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Problems faced in EPS The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hello, We have some EPS image files, which are to be printed.I have tried opening the EPS files in the following applications: 1) Acrobat Distiller (Convert to PDF and Print) 2) Adobe Photoshop 3) Adobe Illustrator 4) QuarkXpress 5) Ghostscript 6) Freehand Some files open in Illustrator, some not. Some other open in Ghostscript and some other in Freehand. The problem is, even if some files open, we get a cross mark (a thick cross mark) in the place of the image. Moreover, we are not able to print the files. It pop ups the following errors message: " An EPS containing binary data and will not print correctly Continue processing yes NO" If we press no, the job is cancelled. If we press yes, an error message is printed instead of the image. I am not able to ascertain whether the problem is with the images, or with the printer, or anyother problem. Even i tried converting the file to PDF and then take a print out, but that was also not working. Since, the PDF files themselves are not opening in Exchange. We are finding it very difficult to resolve the problem. Any ideas and suggestions in this regard would be of great help for us. Thanks & Regards, Murali.J "HAVE A NICE DAY" **************************************************************************** *** NATURE NEVER DID BETRAY THE HEART THAT LOVED HER -- William Wordsworth **************************************************************************** *** _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 23-Jun-1999 12:50:20-GMT,3316;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA11563 for ; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 06:50:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA09554; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 07:48:04 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 23 Jun 1999 07:46:23 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA09377; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 07:46:22 -0500 Message-Id: <199906231246.FAA64674@mail.inficad.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 05:46:17 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Problems faced in EPS From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > An EPS file will not display in your standart word processor, instead a big > bold X or the word to the effect..."This file contains postscrip data" will > be displayed. The applications listed by the originator of this thread are *not* word processing programs. > We have some EPS image files, which are to be printed. I have tried opening > the EPS files in the following applications: > > 1) Acrobat Distiller (Convert to PDF and Print) > 2) Adobe Photoshop > 3) Adobe Illustrator > 4) QuarkXpress > 5) Ghostscript > 6) Freehand Furthermore, you can't open an eps in Quark, you can only place it. You don't explain where the eps files came from, so it's really hard to give you good advice. You need to go back to the source of these files and figure out what you got. That's the first step. FYI, I took a "Quark" eps file and distilled it without a problem. I took an Illustrator eps file (with no preview) and distilled it without a problem. However, not all eps files will open or distill correctly. I find this the case with eps files exported from Acrobat. The problem becomes more difficult cross-platform, as if the eps was created on a Mac with a *pict* preview, you're not going to see anything on the PC. Without better information, you and this list are taking stabs in the dark. Rich ---------------------------------------------------------------- Rich Sprague PDF Solutions/Consulting (480) 860-0050 Print Management & Production richsprague@inficad.com 4-Color Digital Printing http://www.inficad.com/~richsprague Sheetfed & Web Printing *38* years experience ---------------------------------------------------------------- _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 23-Jun-1999 13:06:25-GMT,2507;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA11936 for ; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 07:06:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA10762; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 08:05:18 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 23 Jun 1999 08:04:00 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA10601; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 08:03:59 -0500 Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 09:03:25 -0400 From: Michael Vorel Subject: RE: [PDF] Difficulty distilling a pdf from prn To: "INTERNET:pdf@lists.pdfzone.com" Message-ID: <199906230903_MC2-7A71-9446@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id IAA10597 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Message text written by INTERNET:pdf@lists.pdfzone.com >> I have a document in Oracle Designer 2000 that I want to make > into a pdf. I tell the application to print to file and > select the default printer HP DesignJet 755CM. When I pick > up this prn with Acrobat Distiller 3.0, I get the following output: > > %%[ Error: undefined; OffendingCommand: > *b0W*b0W*b6W ]%% > %%[ Flushing: rest of job (to end-of-file) will be ignored ]%% > %%[ Warning: PostScript error. No PDF file produced. ] %% > > How can I get this output into an acrobat file?< HP andLexmark are two print vendors that create an 'esc' sequence in the first record to switch the print data to the correct interpreter..... Michael Knowledge is Power, yet True Power is Communicating Knowledge (unknown author) mvorel@compuserve.com _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 23-Jun-1999 13:30:31-GMT,2576;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA12574 for ; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 07:30:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA12571; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 08:25:35 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 23 Jun 1999 08:24:14 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA12431; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 08:24:13 -0500 X-Server-Uuid: fc96bae8-3f98-11d2-a40d-00805f199815 Message-ID: From: "Kinstle, Joel" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Creating PostScript under Windows NT 4.0 Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 08:24:00 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) X-WSS-ID: 1B6E0121416314-01-01 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Michael Vorel advised Tommy to turn off font inclusion for his postscript files to fix his problem with the gargantuan files. I suspect that Michael may have missed the real problem that Tommy is having, though I don't recall his initial description. I had a similar problem when we first started using Pagemaker 6. The problem wasn't that a font was included in the postscript and bloating the file, the problem was that the font was included _each and every time the font changed_ and bloated the file. For example, in one line of text, the print file would send garamond, garamond bold, garamond, garamond bold italic, garamond... Our solution was to use Quark. There seemed to be a printing property we couldn't shake in Pagemaker at the time, so we just had to leave. Make sure that your font bloat problem applies in all your programs, not just a few. Joel Kinstle _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 23-Jun-1999 14:01:25-GMT,1888;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA13339 for ; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 08:01:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA15697; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 08:59:21 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 23 Jun 1999 08:57:16 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA15477; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 08:57:14 -0500 Message-ID: <001501bebd78$0bc2e600$15ef7ad1@mcglinn> From: "Kathy McGlinn" To: Subject: [PDF] Century Schoolbook Problem Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 09:57:56 -0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ All, Many of our publications use the Century Schoolbook font. I've notice that when I save our documents in the .pdf format the Century Schoolbook font changes to Roman. Any suggestions as to how to correct this problem? Thanks _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 23-Jun-1999 14:19:24-GMT,2565;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA13846 for ; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 08:19:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA17539; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 09:18:45 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 23 Jun 1999 09:17:32 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA17408; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 09:17:28 -0500 Message-Id: <199906231417.HAA78974@mail.inficad.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 07:17:25 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Century Schoolbook Problem From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > All, > > Many of our publications use the Century Schoolbook font. I've notice that > when I save our documents in the .pdf format the Century Schoolbook font > changes to Roman. Any suggestions as to how to correct this problem? > > Thanks Go to http://www.planetpdf.com and read the "Rich Reveals" article on *Font Issues*. It sounds like you have a "classic" problem of embedding and subsetting. The article should help you solve your problem. If you have any further questions, after reading the article, feel free to e-mail me directly. Rich ---------------------------------------------------------------- Rich Sprague PDF Solutions/Consulting (480) 860-0050 Print Management & Production richsprague@inficad.com 4-Color Digital Printing http://www.inficad.com/~richsprague Sheetfed & Web Printing *38* years experience ---------------------------------------------------------------- _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 23-Jun-1999 14:32:21-GMT,1968;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA14205 for ; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 08:32:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA18912; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 09:30:44 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 23 Jun 1999 09:29:33 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA18712; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 09:29:32 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19990623153026.007c7630@edinpophub> X-Sender: johnd@edinpophub X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 15:30:26 +0100 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: John Donaldson Subject: Re: [PDF] Problems faced in EPS In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi there, > " An EPS containing binary data and will not print correctly > Continue processing > yes NO" > If you're on a PC, then chances are the EPS was created on a Mac and has a Mac preview. John --- John Donaldson Macromedia Europe Technical Support Tel: 0131 458 6766 Fax: 0131 458 6765 support@macromedia.co.uk _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 23-Jun-1999 14:37:30-GMT,3436;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA14367 for ; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 08:37:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA19060; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 09:32:00 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 23 Jun 1999 09:30:49 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA18924; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 09:30:48 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Problems faced in EPS Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 15:30:30 +0100 Message-ID: <004301bebd84$f20ca400$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ It seems that nothing that you describe is actually wrong! > We have some EPS image files, which are to be printed.I have > tried opening > the EPS files in the following applications: > > 1) Acrobat Distiller (Convert to PDF and Print) > 2) Adobe Photoshop > 3) Adobe Illustrator > 4) QuarkXpress > 5) Ghostscript > 6) Freehand > > Some files open in Illustrator, some not. Some other open in > Ghostscript > and some other in Freehand. The problem is, even if some > files open, we > get a cross mark (a thick cross mark) in the place of the image. These are probably Mac-format EPS files. When you PLACE in Illustrator, XPress, Freehand, there is no preview to see so you'll get a grey box or similar. Normal when moving a Mac EPS to Windows. > Moreover, we are not able to print the files. It pop ups the > following > errors message: > > " An EPS containing binary data and will not print correctly > Continue processing > yes NO" > > If we press no, the job is cancelled. If we press yes, an > error message > is printed instead of the image. The images, then, do contain binary. If you are printing from a PC you will need to get ASCII EPS files from the creator. Or, distill the files, and export as an ASCII EPS from Acrobat Exchange. > > I am not able to ascertain whether the problem is with the > images, or with > the printer, or anyother problem. Even i tried converting > the file to > PDF and then take a print out, but that was also not working. > Since, > the PDF files themselves are not opening in Exchange. Please post specific symptoms for this problem, which is the only one which actually belongs in this list... Aandi _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 23-Jun-1999 15:04:53-GMT,2366;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA15142 for ; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 09:04:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA21792; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 10:03:08 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 23 Jun 1999 10:01:07 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA21594; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 10:01:05 -0500 From: "Scott Hamlow" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Century Schoolbook Problem Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 08:00:53 -0700 Message-ID: <000201bebd89$308bf380$45a2fecc@scotth.fourgen.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2232.26 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <001501bebd78$0bc2e600$15ef7ad1@mcglinn> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Here's a few things to check: o Make sure everyone has the exact same font installed (same name and type) o Make sure the font is included in the embed font list in Distiller Job Options o Don't save as PDF--Print to PS using AdobePS printer driver and Distiller PPD, then distill. It's significantly more reliable. > -----Original Message----- > From: Kathy McGlinn > All, > > Many of our publications use the Century Schoolbook font. I've notice that > when I save our documents in the .pdf format the Century Schoolbook font > changes to Roman. Any suggestions as to how to correct this problem? _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 23-Jun-1999 15:09:13-GMT,2158;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA15282 for ; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 09:09:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA22521; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 10:08:35 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 23 Jun 1999 10:07:24 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA22298; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 10:07:23 -0500 X-Sender: weller@pop3.axion.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 08:10:16 -0800 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: weller@axion.net (Angus Weller) Subject: [PDF] RE: fonts that don't display or print properly Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi, I would like to pass on that "Carta" also has problems in printing and displaying properly in PDF files. My work around is to convert the font to outline. Also, arrow heads generated in Illustrator will sometimes drop their side points. Buyer beware. Every file should previewed before being output to film or mounted on the internet. Angus ************************************* Angus Weller 6268 129th St., Surrey, British Columbia, Canada, V3X 1S6 Tel: (604) 591-5192 e-mail: weller@axion.net or travel-media@bc1.com Internet store: www.travel-media.com ************************************* _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 23-Jun-1999 15:25:30-GMT,2229;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA15789 for ; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 09:25:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA24336; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 10:24:33 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 23 Jun 1999 10:23:23 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA24189; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 10:23:21 -0500 From: "Dan O'Connor" To: "PDF List" Subject: [PDF] Quark to PDF Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 10:23:06 -0500 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1162 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Yesterday I had our in-house print shop convert a number of their files from Quark to .pdf. Everything went fine expect where graphics are placed on a background color. The graphic showed a white background. In Quark, the background shows through. In .pdf it does not. I'm not familiar with Quark, here's the response I got from our typesetting group: "Yes, all of the forms I sent to you were done in Quark. The graphic box where the logo is placed has a background of none and shows through in the Quark job, but the pdf file makes it white. If you have any ideas as to why this happens let me know." Any suggestions? Dan O'Connor _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 23-Jun-1999 15:26:46-GMT,2090;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA15837 for ; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 09:26:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA24536; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 10:26:07 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 23 Jun 1999 10:25:01 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA24372; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 10:25:00 -0500 Message-ID: <3770FC1E.DBE40B92@agrisurf.com> Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 08:24:14 -0700 From: msiemens@agrisurf.com (Mark Siemens) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com, pdf-digest@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Indexing Custom Doc Info Fields in Acrobat 4.0 References: <199906231152.GAA05247@everglades.binc.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I recently upgraded to Acrobat 4.0 and can't seem to get my custom doc info fields to be indexed by catalogue. In Acrobat 3.0, one modified the acrocat.ini to include the custom fields added and this worked fine. I am unable to locate an acrocat.ini now that I have uninstalled 3.0 and installed 4.0. Does anyone know how to get Acrobat 4.0 to index custom doc info fields? I working on a Win 95 machine. Thanks, Mark _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 23-Jun-1999 15:53:05-GMT,4172;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA16678 for ; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 09:53:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA26915; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 10:51:13 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 23 Jun 1999 10:49:49 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA26754; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 10:49:48 -0500 Message-Id: <199906231549.IAA97886@mail.inficad.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 08:49:44 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Quark to PDF From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > Yesterday I had our in-house print shop convert a number of their files > from Quark to .pdf. Everything went fine expect where graphics are placed > on a background color. The graphic showed a white background. In Quark, the > background shows through. In .pdf it does not. I'm not familiar with Quark, > here's the response I got from our typesetting group: > "Yes, all of the forms I sent to you were done in Quark. The graphic box > where the logo is placed has a background of none and shows through in the > Quark job, but the pdf file makes it white. If you have any ideas as to > why this happens let me know." > Any suggestions? > > Dan O'Connor It's hard to come to a definitive solution based on the information you provided... However, if the PDF was created using the PDF Writer and the file contained *eps* graphics, you *will* get a white background around the graphic, even though visually the background color showed properly in the Quark doc. Solution: print a PS file and distill. The other possibility is that you have a multi-colored *tiff* file which does not fill the object container. in Quark, if you are importing a multi-colored *tiff* file, you *must* have the background set to white (preferably) or 0% of a color which, in effect, is 100% white. Again, even though you can see the background through the container, once the *tiff* is imported into the container, Quark takes any non-pixel areas and fills them with white during the printing or postscripting process. This was a real problem several years ago. When Quark first came out with 3x, or so, the default color setting for containers was none. I was one of the unfortunate ones who was snakebit and got white pixels with 4-color film output when I expected clear areas. Needless to say, Quark's default setting for picture containers was changed to white. Solution: One, if the background is a solid color, make the background color in the Quark container that color. Two, if the background is a pattern or image, convert the *tiff* file to an *eps* format. Multi- colored eps images may have a background of *none* in a picture container. Rich ---------------------------------------------------------------- Rich Sprague PDF Solutions/Consulting (480) 860-0050 Print Management & Production richsprague@inficad.com 4-Color Digital Printing http://www.inficad.com/~richsprague Sheetfed & Web Printing *38* years experience ---------------------------------------------------------------- _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 23-Jun-1999 16:07:57-GMT,2170;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA17134 for ; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 10:07:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA28212; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 11:02:09 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 23 Jun 1999 11:00:55 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA28055; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 11:00:53 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Quark to PDF Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 17:00:33 +0100 Message-ID: <004501bebd91$86e4c600$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > Yesterday I had our in-house print shop convert a number of > their files > from Quark to .pdf. Everything went fine expect where > graphics are placed > on a background color. The graphic showed a white background. > In Quark, the > background shows through. In .pdf it does not. Almost certainly, PDFWriter was used for the conversion. Totally unsuitable, don't use it with XPress and don't use it with EPS files. Aandi _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 23-Jun-1999 16:16:34-GMT,3460;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA17453 for ; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 10:16:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA29322; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 11:14:21 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 23 Jun 1999 11:12:57 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA29186; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 11:12:56 -0500 Message-Id: <199906231612.JAA03346@mail.inficad.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 09:12:53 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] RE: fonts that don't display or print properly From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > Hi, > > I would like to pass on that "Carta" also has problems in printing > and displaying properly in PDF files. My work around is to convert the font > to outline. > > Also, arrow heads generated in Illustrator will sometimes drop > their side points. > > Buyer beware. Every file should previewed before being output to > film or mounted on the internet. > > Angus > > ************************************* > > Angus Weller > 6268 129th St., > Surrey, British Columbia, > Canada, V3X 1S6 > > Tel: (604) 591-5192 > > e-mail: weller@axion.net or > travel-media@bc1.com I tried three test files with the font *Carta*. Mac, O/S 8.6. Word -- Created with PDF Writer. No problems. Word -- Distilled. No problems. Quark -- Distilled. No problems. Make sure that you are embedding and subsetting the fonts properly. See Rich Reveals article on *Font Issues* at http://www.planetpdf.com. If you are not using Acrobat 4x, you may wish to upgrade. http://www.pdfzone.com for $99.00. Carta is a font that even in Quark does not look right on screen. I expected problems with Word, and particularly with our favorite nemisis -- the PDF Writer -- but found none. I also tried opening the PDF files on my PC, and report that they functioned properly in all cases. And, you're right, all files should be previewed anyway before distribution. This includes docs created in the original applications. Rich ---------------------------------------------------------------- Rich Sprague PDF Solutions/Consulting (480) 860-0050 Print Management & Production richsprague@inficad.com 4-Color Digital Printing http://www.inficad.com/~richsprague Sheetfed & Web Printing *38* years experience ---------------------------------------------------------------- _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 23-Jun-1999 16:26:29-GMT,1825;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA17733 for ; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 10:26:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA30572; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 11:24:50 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 23 Jun 1999 11:23:19 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA30311; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 11:23:18 -0500 Date: 23 Jun 1999 18:23:27 +0200 Message-ID: <790a9a07dd71d3ccdca9c4b5900bdbef377109d4@> From: Edouard Janssens Subject: [PDF] Distiller as a service ? To: "PDF Mailing-List" X-Mailer: QuickMail Pro 2.0b8r2 (36.4.1) (Mac) X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-Ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id LAA30306 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Is it possible to launch Distiller automaticly as soon as NT server has started and not only when I log as a user or an administrator ? Many thanks. _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 23-Jun-1999 16:31:42-GMT,3295;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA17883 for ; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 10:31:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA31244; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 11:31:04 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 23 Jun 1999 11:29:47 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA31110; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 11:29:43 -0500 Message-ID: <37710C15.E0AE7DAC@scenicsoft.com> Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 09:32:21 -0700 From: sbailey X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Indexing Custom Doc Info Fields in Acrobat 4.0 References: <199906231152.GAA05247@everglades.binc.net> <3770FC1E.DBE40B92@agrisurf.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hello Mark, Acrobat Catalog 4.0 [Windows] now stores this information in the registry. [Catalog 4.0 for Mac provides this functionality through the UI, choose Edit>Preferences>Custom Fields] A good document to become familiar with first is the Developer FAQ which can be downloaded from this URL: http://partners.adobe.com/asn/developer/acrosdk/main.html Next, you'll want to download the Acrobat SDK from: http://partners.adobe.com/asn/developer/acrosdk/main.html The SDK includes the document "CATAPI.PDF" which provides a sample ".reg" file that should help get you started. I hope this helps, Samantha Mark Siemens wrote: > > The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > > I recently upgraded to Acrobat 4.0 and can't seem to get my custom doc info fields to be > indexed by catalogue. In Acrobat 3.0, one modified the acrocat.ini to include the custom > fields added and this worked fine. I am unable to locate an acrocat.ini now that I have > uninstalled 3.0 and installed 4.0. Does anyone know how to get Acrobat 4.0 to index custom > doc info fields? I working on a Win 95 machine. > > Thanks, > > Mark > > _ > ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ > <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> > <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> > ___________________________________________________________ -- ___________________________________________ Samantha M. Bailey | Software Test Engineer 425.355.6655 | http://www.scenicsoft.com _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 23-Jun-1999 16:37:38-GMT,2239;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA18084 for ; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 10:37:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA31793; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 11:36:54 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 23 Jun 1999 11:35:46 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA31687; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 11:35:45 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Distiller as a service ? Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 17:35:27 +0100 Message-ID: <004801bebd96$66f79c00$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 In-Reply-To: <790a9a07dd71d3ccdca9c4b5900bdbef377109d4@> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > Is it possible to launch Distiller automaticly as soon as NT > server has started > and not only when I log as a user or an administrator ? > Many thanks. No directly, and no part of Acrobat is supported as a Service. However, I have heard of people having some success with Microsoft's SRVANY facility (or is it SVRANY?) Remember that Distiller is not intended to provide a network facility for a shared group of users (unless, of course, they all have Acrobat licenses). Aandi _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 23-Jun-1999 16:53:38-GMT,2718;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA18580 for ; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 10:53:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA00796; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 11:52:49 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 23 Jun 1999 11:51:28 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA00614; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 11:51:18 -0500 Date: 23 Jun 1999 18:51:28 +0200 Message-ID: <4b01a281715212136aadeba3c54acca737711065@> From: Edouard Janssens Subject: Re:[PDF] Distiller as a service ? To: X-Mailer: QuickMail Pro 2.0b8r2 (36.4.1) (Mac) X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-Ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id LAA00577 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Thanks... The problem is that I need to distill on the web. Is there any Web licence ??? Aandi Inston wrote: > > The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | >http://www.pdfzone.com/ > >__________________________________________________________________ > > > Is it possible to launch Distiller automaticly as soon as NT > > > server has started > > and not only when I log as a user or an administrator ? > > Many thanks. > > No directly, and no part of Acrobat is supported as a Service. > However, I have heard of people having some success with > Microsoft's SRVANY facility (or is it SVRANY?) > > Remember that Distiller is not intended to provide a network > facility for a shared group of users (unless, of course, they > all have Acrobat licenses). > > Aandi > _ > ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ > <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for >Java -> > <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ >-> > ___________________________________________________________ _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 23-Jun-1999 17:28:38-GMT,2322;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA19754 for ; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 11:28:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA04197; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 12:21:59 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 23 Jun 1999 12:20:18 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA03964; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 12:20:07 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Distiller as a service ? Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 18:19:47 +0100 Message-ID: <004901bebd9c$98504da0$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 In-Reply-To: <4b01a281715212136aadeba3c54acca737711065@> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > The problem is that I need to distill on the web. > Is there any Web licence ??? This is a very interesting question, for which I have not seen any answer. Let's see - surely someone out there has dealt with this issue? It is best not to assume anything. I know of a company that had a database system licensed "per user" and used it to provide registration to a web site. There was a great deal of legal wrangling about whether there was one user (the registration program) or tens of thousands (making for a very large bill). I never heard the outcome. Aandi _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 23-Jun-1999 17:32:27-GMT,2872;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA19921 for ; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 11:32:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA05181; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 12:31:55 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 23 Jun 1999 12:30:32 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA05027; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 12:30:30 -0500 Date: 23 Jun 1999 19:30:44 +0200 Message-ID: <6d6d1d051baa44937c144d6cc64b3e0c37711997@> From: Edouard Janssens Subject: Re:[PDF] Distiller as a service ? To: X-Mailer: QuickMail Pro 2.0b8r2 (36.4.1) (Mac) X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-Ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id MAA05021 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I konw a lot of sites where there is a Distiller engine server sided rendering PDF all day long and sending it to the surfer's browser. Are they outlaw ??? Aandi Inston wrote: > > The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | >http://www.pdfzone.com/ > >__________________________________________________________________ > > > The problem is that I need to distill on the web. > > Is there any Web licence ??? > > This is a very interesting question, for which I have > not seen any answer. Let's see - surely someone out > there has dealt with this issue? > > It is best not to assume anything. I know of a company > that had a database system licensed "per user" and > used it to provide registration to a web site. > > There was a great deal of legal wrangling about whether > there was one user (the registration program) or > tens of thousands (making for a very large bill). > I never heard the outcome. > > Aandi > _ > ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ > <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for >Java -> > <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ >-> > ___________________________________________________________ _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 23-Jun-1999 17:48:45-GMT,2815;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA20444 for ; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 11:48:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA07164; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 12:47:56 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 23 Jun 1999 12:46:33 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA06897; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 12:46:31 -0500 From: "George Johnson" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Distiller as a service ? Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 10:47:13 -0700 Message-ID: <000001bebda0$6d37c0e0$04e78e8c@geo_ws1.u.washington.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 In-Reply-To: <004901bebd9c$98504da0$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > > The problem is that I need to distill on the web. > > Is there any Web licence ??? > > This is a very interesting question, for which I have > not seen any answer. Let's see - surely someone out > there has dealt with this issue? > > It is best not to assume anything. I know of a company > that had a database system licensed "per user" and > used it to provide registration to a web site. > > There was a great deal of legal wrangling about whether > there was one user (the registration program) or > tens of thousands (making for a very large bill). > I never heard the outcome. I have also seen folks attempting to use PDFWriter to generate a PDF file in response to a web server request, and serve the resulting PDF to the user. It seems to me that this CLEARLY violates the licensing agreement, at least the "No other network use is permitted." wording of the Acrobat 4 single computer End User License Agreement. The Acrobat 3 license agreement seems to have similar implications. Can anyone from Adobe comment on this issue? _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 23-Jun-1999 17:52:04-GMT,1949;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA20522 for ; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 11:52:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA07574; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 12:51:35 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 23 Jun 1999 12:50:20 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA07431; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 12:50:19 -0500 From: robert.r.richard@hrdc-drhc.gc.ca X-Internal-ID: 3770E804000010A0 Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 13:41:01 -0400 Message-ID: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) To: Subject: [PDF] Form Fields link to 2nd doc on specific page. X-Incognito-SN: 1395 X-Incognito-Version: 4.25.361 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ PDFZone, With two pdf documents, we would like to have an "Open File Action" linking to a 2nd document on a specific page. When using Form Fields links with "Execute Menu Items/Open File Action", the 2nd document always opens on the first page. How could we open that 2nd doc on page 9 as an example. Thanks in advance for tips. Robert Richard. _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 23-Jun-1999 18:02:40-GMT,3308;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA20828 for ; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 12:02:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA08717; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 13:01:10 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 23 Jun 1999 12:59:56 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA08573; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 12:59:55 -0500 Date: 23 Jun 1999 20:00:01 +0200 Message-ID: From: Edouard Janssens Subject: Re:[PDF] Distiller as a service ? To: X-Mailer: QuickMail Pro 2.0b8r2 (36.4.1) (Mac) X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-Ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id MAA08565 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ May we consider that the unique user in this case is THE webserver service instance itself ? George Johnson wrote: > > The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | >http://www.pdfzone.com/ > >__________________________________________________________________ > > > > The problem is that I need to distill on the web. > > > Is there any Web licence ??? > > > > This is a very interesting question, for which I have > > not seen any answer. Let's see - surely someone out > > there has dealt with this issue? > > > > It is best not to assume anything. I know of a company > > that had a database system licensed "per user" and > > used it to provide registration to a web site. > > > > There was a great deal of legal wrangling about whether > > there was one user (the registration program) or > > tens of thousands (making for a very large bill). > > I never heard the outcome. > > I have also seen folks attempting to use PDFWriter to generate >a PDF file in > response to a web server request, and serve the resulting PDF >to the user. > It seems to me that this CLEARLY violates the licensing >agreement, at least > the "No other network use is permitted." wording of the >Acrobat 4 single > computer End User License Agreement. The Acrobat 3 license >agreement seems > to have similar implications. > > Can anyone from Adobe comment on this issue? > > _ > ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ > <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for >Java -> > <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 23-Jun-1999 18:16:28-GMT,1956;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA21311 for ; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 12:16:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA10177; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 13:15:37 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 23 Jun 1999 13:14:00 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA09975; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 13:13:56 -0500 From: "George Johnson" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Distiller as a service ? Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 11:14:37 -0700 Message-ID: <000001bebda4$4124f5a0$04e78e8c@geo_ws1.u.washington.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ My license is a single COMPUTER license that seems to clearly forbid such network use. > May we consider that the unique user in this case is THE webserver service > instance itself ? _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 23-Jun-1999 18:33:50-GMT,2077;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA21811 for ; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 12:33:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA11890; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 13:29:32 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 23 Jun 1999 13:26:26 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA11352; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 13:26:18 -0500 From: "George Johnson" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Distiller as a service ? Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 11:26:53 -0700 Message-ID: <000101bebda5$f7eadb50$04e78e8c@geo_ws1.u.washington.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ There is also this note when you select "Settings -> Watched Folders" in Distiller 4: "Reminder: All capabilites of Acrobat Distiller are for your individual use only and not to provide services to others." > May we consider that the unique user in this case is THE webserver service > instance itself ? _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 23-Jun-1999 18:34:33-GMT,2299;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA21845 for ; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 12:34:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA12553; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 13:33:59 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 23 Jun 1999 13:31:30 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA12197; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 13:31:29 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Livingston, Thomas S" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Form Fields link to 2nd doc on specific page. Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 11:23:11 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > With two pdf documents, we would like to have an "Open File Action" linking > to a 2nd document on a specific page. When using Form Fields links with > "Execute Menu Items/Open File Action", the 2nd document always opens on the > first page. How could we open that 2nd doc on page 9 as an example. What I have done is create a form field on document 1 that has no action and overlay a link on it. The link tool then allows you to open the appropriate file (document 2) and go to the correct page that you want to view. When your customer clicks on the form field on document 1, document 1 closes and document 2 opens at the appropriate page. I hope this helps. Tom Livingston FSBTI _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 23-Jun-1999 18:37:04-GMT,5247;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA21904 for ; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 12:37:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA12751; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 13:35:25 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 23 Jun 1999 13:32:58 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA12433; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 13:32:56 -0500 Message-ID: <000d01bebda6$1de329c0$324370d8@concentric.net> From: "M. Olenick" To: References: Subject: Re: Re:[PDF] Distiller as a service ? Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 11:27:51 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ My understanding is that Acrobat on networks -- and using it on a web server counts with a vengeance -- is disallowed. I've written an entire program for enable web printing that dynamically generates PDF's -- something that wasn't at all in my company business plan and that was an enormous hassle -- to get around the licensing issue. I used to work for a company that used Acrobat on their Intranet web server but they purchased a license, per Adobe's request, for every user of the application. Realistically if Adobe would change their licensing plans it would adversely affect PDF developers and Adobe: programs to stamp FDF into PDF, programs for automatic PDF generation, and Acrobat itself would be enormously diluted in value. One issue besides licensing with Acrobat is that I also understand that it's not multithreaded so you'd have to write a queue mechanism though that would be a problem if your server got busy. Michael. PS: On the alignment issue I wrote about earlier I've confirmed with Adobe that PDF's do not print with correct vertical registration on HP 800 series printers. There are over a dozen reports of this and Adobe has verified it. Yuck! ----- Original Message ----- From: Edouard Janssens To: Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 1999 11:00 AM Subject: Re:[PDF] Distiller as a service ? > > The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > > May we consider that the unique user in this case is THE webserver service > instance itself ? > > George Johnson wrote: > > > > The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | > >http://www.pdfzone.com/ > > > >__________________________________________________________________ > > > > > > The problem is that I need to distill on the web. > > > > Is there any Web licence ??? > > > > > > This is a very interesting question, for which I have > > > not seen any answer. Let's see - surely someone out > > > there has dealt with this issue? > > > > > > It is best not to assume anything. I know of a company > > > that had a database system licensed "per user" and > > > used it to provide registration to a web site. > > > > > > There was a great deal of legal wrangling about whether > > > there was one user (the registration program) or > > > tens of thousands (making for a very large bill). > > > I never heard the outcome. > > > > I have also seen folks attempting to use PDFWriter to generate > >a PDF file in > > response to a web server request, and serve the resulting PDF > >to the user. > > It seems to me that this CLEARLY violates the licensing > >agreement, at least > > the "No other network use is permitted." wording of the > >Acrobat 4 single > > computer End User License Agreement. The Acrobat 3 license > >agreement seems > > to have similar implications. > > > > Can anyone from Adobe comment on this issue? > > > > _ > > ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ > > <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for > >Java -> > > <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> > ___________________________________________________________ > > > > _ > ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ > <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> > <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> > ___________________________________________________________ > _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 23-Jun-1999 18:52:14-GMT,3002;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA22372 for ; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 12:52:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA14378; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 13:51:19 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 23 Jun 1999 13:48:36 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA14042; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 13:48:34 -0500 Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 11:51:14 -0700 Message-Id: <199906231851.LAA12173@aladdin.com> From: "L. Peter Deutsch" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com In-reply-to: <000d01bebda6$1de329c0$324370d8@concentric.net> (olenick@olen.com) Subject: Re: [PDF] Distiller as a service ? References: <000d01bebda6$1de329c0$324370d8@concentric.net> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > Realistically if Adobe would change their licensing plans it would > adversely affect PDF developers and Adobe: programs to stamp FDF into PDF, > programs for automatic PDF generation, and Acrobat itself would be > enormously diluted in value. You may be interested to know that a new release of Ghostscript's Distiller work-alike will be going into beta test in mid-August. This release will finally provide reasonable handling of text and fonts. Early testers are welcome (in fact, badly needed), starting around July 8: please see http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~ghost/aladdin/tester.html for information. Ghostscript is freely available for use and non-commercial redistribution, including commercial use on desktops and/or servers, under a license that is Open Source except for a prohibition on commercial redistribution. (Commercial redistribution licenses are also available.) It runs on Unix (including Linux), MS Windows, Macintosh, OpenVMS, OS/2, and other platforms. It is designed to be driven from the command line and works well with server scripts: its distilling function doesn't require a display. For more information, please e-mail me privately. -- L. Peter Deutsch | Aladdin Enterprises :::: ghost@aladdin.com 203 Santa Margarita Ave. | tel. +1-650-322-0103 (AM only); fax +1-650-322-1734 Menlo Park, CA 94025 | http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~ghost/index.html _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 23-Jun-1999 18:56:04-GMT,2660;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA22505 for ; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 12:56:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA14880; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 13:55:30 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 23 Jun 1999 13:52:59 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA14582; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 13:52:58 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19990624014944.0089a210@mozart.inet.co.th> X-Sender: cooper@mozart.inet.co.th X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 01:49:44 +0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Doug Cooper Subject: RE: [PDF] Distiller as a service ? In-Reply-To: <000001bebda4$4124f5a0$04e78e8c@geo_ws1.u.washington.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ At 11:14 23/6/99 -0700, you wrote: >My license is a single COMPUTER license that seems to clearly forbid such >network use. >> May we consider that the unique user in this case is THE webserver service >> instance itself ? Ok, so suppose my company has a VP for PDF, in the same way it has typists, librarians, etc. This person's job is to create PDF files, and archive them on his website. He is a registered owner of Acrobat. He is also a Thai national who is paid $4 per day to push 'Enter' every time a .ps file comes in -- in other words, it is not an automatic 'network service.' Is somebody going to advance the argument that my VP for PDF is not, in any way, a legitimate Acrobat user? That there is a litmus test of some sort for how much of a document's content the Acrobat user must have produced himself? Or typed himself? Or how much of the document must have been typed on the machine that Acrobat is on? The mind boggles. Doug _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 23-Jun-1999 19:01:53-GMT,2965;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA22700 for ; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 13:01:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA15892; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 14:01:05 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 23 Jun 1999 13:58:23 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA15456; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 13:58:19 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990623150120.008accb0@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 15:01:20 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] Problems faced in EPS In-Reply-To: <199906231246.FAA64674@mail.inficad.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >> An EPS file will not display in your standart word processor, instead a big >> bold X or the word to the effect..."This file contains postscrip data" will >> be displayed. > >The applications listed by the originator of this thread are *not* word >processing programs. > True, but the same logic applies, or will if the EPS is "placed" normally rather than imported/opened in a way that causes the app to try to interpret the contents. You see the preview image if there is one, or an X or gray box or whatever if not. As you say, w/o knowing which of these methods the original poster is using, it's a shot in the dark. Maybe a little more flailing will hit something, though, so: I'd guess that the app that gave the "binary" message has figured out that the EPS is in binary format and (possibly) that the printer doesn't support binary, so is issuing that particular warning. That's reasonable behavior, since the EPS might indeed not print properly. I wouldn't think that binary EPS would give Distiller a case of the burps, but ISTR that some versions got hiccuppy if handed e.g. PS from HP drivers with JCL at the top. Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 23-Jun-1999 19:07:18-GMT,2912;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA22906 for ; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 13:07:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA16607; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 14:05:57 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 23 Jun 1999 14:03:20 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA16313; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 14:03:12 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990623150622.008ba100@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 15:06:22 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: RE: [PDF] Creating PostScript under Windows NT 4.0 In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >Our solution was to use Quark. There seemed to be a printing property we >couldn't shake in Pagemaker at the time, so we just had to leave. Make sure >that your font bloat problem applies in all your programs, not just a few. > That's one approach. PageMaker does this to guarantee that the files will print on low-memory printers w/o font problems, at the risk of making the files larger. Basically it scopes out (from the PPD) how much memory's available in the printer, then tracks memory usage as fonts are downloaded into the PS output stream. If it's talking to a low-memory printer, it'll download fonts up to a point, but when it decides memory's low, it downloads a font as needed, uses it, then flushes it and downloads the next font needed. QXP and the associated learning curve's one solution; personally, I'd go for the cheap, quick and easy way out. Modify one line in the PPD for the printer and the problem pretty much goes away. And you end up with DSC compliant PS, something that Quark seems to have a problem making. Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 23-Jun-1999 19:10:28-GMT,2684;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA23024 for ; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 13:10:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA17174; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 14:09:50 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 23 Jun 1999 14:07:16 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA16786; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 14:07:07 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990623151012.008adcf0@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 15:10:12 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] Problems faced in EPS In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.19990623153026.007c7630@edinpophub> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > >> " An EPS containing binary data and will not print correctly >> Continue processing >> yes NO" >> > >If you're on a PC, then chances are the EPS was created on a Mac and has a >Mac preview. > How would the preview survive the jump from Mac to PC? You'd have to work very hard indeed to have that happen, no? The resource fork (where the preview lives) gets ditched when you move the file from Mac to PC. It's very normal to lose the preview altogether, but I've never seen an EPS on the PC with a PICT preview. In fact, I doubt very much that you could even place such a thing in a PC app, since it wouldn't likely contain the correct binary header info that'd give it the correct offsets to the start of the preview image, the start of the PS portion of the EPS and whatnot. Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 23-Jun-1999 19:14:32-GMT,2566;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA23168 for ; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 13:14:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA17565; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 14:13:50 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 23 Jun 1999 14:11:22 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA17299; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 14:11:21 -0500 From: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?Carlos_Gonz=E1lez?=" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Form Fields link to 2nd doc on specific page. Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 21:11:33 +0200 Message-ID: <01bebdac$34d743e0$dd65513e@none.servicom.es> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi all: There is a way to do it with Java Script, that was posted to the list in june 6th. It uses global variables combined with "GetURL", and a function to make all work. It takes in consideration the name of the field to know wich PDF to open and in which page. For example, a field named "Help.8" would open Help.pdf on page 8. It's interesting only if you need a lot of links. If not, it's longer to do the routine than to do the links one by one. If you are interested, please contact me back. Regards, Carlos ************************************************************** La Oficina Sin Papel S.L. Carlos Gonzalez Marti Director General Cristóbal Bordiú, 63 28003 Madrid (Spain) Tel: + 34 915 344 348 Fax: + 34 915 531 508 e-mail: laoficinasinpapel@mad.servicom.es ************************************************************** _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 23-Jun-1999 19:22:33-GMT,1704;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA23472 for ; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 13:22:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA18529; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 14:21:53 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 23 Jun 1999 14:19:20 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA18311; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 14:19:19 -0500 Message-ID: <37713409.350E2825@cybercable.tm.fr> Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 21:22:49 +0200 From: Arnaud Blanchard X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [fr] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: fr-FR,en-US MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Autoload of indexes Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi everybody, Can someone tell me if there's a plug-in to (auto) load and (auto)unload indexes with documents ? Thanks, Arnaud D. _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 23-Jun-1999 19:37:47-GMT,3158;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA23960 for ; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 13:37:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA19722; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 14:34:55 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 23 Jun 1999 14:31:54 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA19350; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 14:31:53 -0500 From: "Scott Hamlow" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Autoload of indexes Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 12:31:43 -0700 Message-ID: <000601bebdaf$06102380$45a2fecc@scotth.fourgen.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2232.26 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-Reply-To: <37713409.350E2825@cybercable.tm.fr> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ If the source of your material allows you to use pdfmarks (e.g., FrameMaker) you can use the following pdfmarks (courtesy of Thomas Merz). I suppose this would also work if placed in prologue.ps, but I haven't tried it. You can achieve this effect with the /PUT pdfmark as follows: [{Catalog} << /Search << /Indexes [<< /Name /PDX /Index (INDEXNAME.PDX) >>] >> >> /PUT pdfmark (Yes, that's six opening and closing angle brackets each) You should however be aware of the fact that this means using a documented pdfmark operator to achieve an undocumented PDF feature. The usual warnings apply... > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com [mailto:owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com]On > Behalf Of Arnaud Blanchard > Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 1999 12:23 PM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: [PDF] Autoload of indexes > > > > The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > > Hi everybody, > > Can someone tell me if there's a plug-in to (auto) load and (auto)unload > indexes with > documents ? > > Thanks, > Arnaud D. > > _ > ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ > <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> > <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> > ___________________________________________________________ > _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 23-Jun-1999 19:53:47-GMT,6462;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA24437 for ; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 13:53:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA21383; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 14:52:52 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 23 Jun 1999 14:51:22 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA21204; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 14:51:12 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Distiller as a service ? (Licensing issues) Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 20:50:45 +0100 Message-ID: <000001bebdb1$b02490c0$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19990624014944.0089a210@mozart.inet.co.th> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > >My license is a single COMPUTER license that seems to > clearly forbid such > >network use. > >> May we consider that the unique user in this case is THE > webserver service > >> instance itself ? > > Ok, so suppose my company has a VP for PDF, in the same way > it has typists, librarians, etc. This person's job is to > create PDF files, and archive them on his website. He is a > registered owner of Acrobat. He is also a Thai national > who is paid $4 per day to push 'Enter' every time a .ps file > comes in -- in other words, it is not an automatic 'network > service.' > > Is somebody going to advance the argument that my VP for PDF > is not, in any way, a legitimate Acrobat user? That there is a > litmus test of some sort for how much of a document's content > the Acrobat user must have produced himself? Or typed himself? > Or how much of the document must have been typed on the machine > that Acrobat is on? The mind boggles. The licensing issues raised here are important ones. I can't presume to answer them, and everything following is my opinion, not based on any input from Adobe. I'd like to add to the debate, though, and give some imaginary scenarios that may be food for thought. I think it may be useful to consider what Adobe's perceived strategy is. So far as I see it, it is to sell to individual PDF creators -and- to give corporate America (where the big revenues are) good reasons to buy a license for EACH desk. The Reader/Exchange division clearly follows this desire e.g. more sophisticated use of forms NEEDS A LICENSE. Adding notes NEEDS A LICENSE. And so on. At the same time the strategy of encouraging the spread of PDF - and with it sales of Acrobat - is based on free access to limited facilities. I often hear from people trying to avoid the NEEDS A LICENSE scenario. How can I "just" add notes without needing a full copy per person? How can I "just" export forms without needing a full copy? And the logical conclusion: how can I "just" create PDF files without needing a full copy per person. Clearly the first two won't work, but the last one seems to give people the most difficulty because the restriction is easy to circumvent TECHNICALLY. Let's forget Acrobat for a moment and consider two other pieces of software. One is a Microsoft Word. How can we reduce the need for Word licenses? One is to employ a typist and have them do all the work. Clearly this needs only one license, but it lacks the convenience a modern office expects. The argument "we only need one license because we COULD HAVE employed a typist instead" is unlikely to get very far. But let's consider the scenario where - using automation features that might or might not exist in Word, a "virtual Word" application can be written. It communicates with a copy of Word running on a Big Server, sending it keystrokes and displaying the screen remotely. The end user has something that looks like Word. Word is not installed on the local client. How many Word licenses are required? Now, let's consider a different application: a translator (English to French, say). Of course, the office dogsbody could have a copy, and you phone that person up to ask a translation. But suppose you find a way to simulate keystrokes to it and get the responses, then network it around a big corporation. How many licenses are needed? Ok, whatever the answers to the previous questions, let's imagine the applications worked over an intranet, and someone now offers them over the internet to the entire world. So, an internet site which gives you Word without needing a personal copy. Or, offering translation services to the world. How many licenses are needed? One? Billions? Traditional licensing models may break down here, but the answer is probably not ONE. A cynical view of software licenses is that they provide a legalistic framework, open to the widest possible interpretation, and therefore open to use in prosecuting any perceived abuse. If this is true, the last thing a company will wish to do is CLARIFY the license. Of course, Adobe could confound this view by actually clarifying the terms publicly. The warning on Distiller 4.0's watched folders is a pretty unambiguous clarification of that point. And, of course, widespread abuse does not automatically become legitimised, any more than the widespread photocopying of textbooks makes it legal. The benefits of prosecution have to be balanced by the bad press that comes if you prosecute Nice People. So there may be thousands or millions of people using Acrobat outside its licensing terms: current use cannot be taken as case law. Anyway, enough for now. Aandi _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 23-Jun-1999 21:38:00-GMT,4078;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA27674 for ; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 15:37:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA32169; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 16:31:43 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 23 Jun 1999 16:30:13 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA32025; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 16:30:11 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Autoload of indexes Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 22:29:49 +0100 Message-ID: <000501bebdbf$8681a880$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 In-Reply-To: <000601bebdaf$06102380$45a2fecc@scotth.fourgen.com> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ This is undocumented, but it simply sets the same information set by the AUTOINDEX plug-in. This seems safe enough, because the effect of AUTOINDEX can be completely discovered. AUTOINDEX as a plug-in has two parts. 1. In Exchange it allows you to attach one index to a PDF file. Just one. 2. In Exchange OR Reader it checks each file you open to see if an index is attached. If so, the index is added. Autoindex is included in all Reader+Search distributions, so far as I know. It cannot accomodate multiple indexes for one PDF, nor can it close indexes (though they last only for the current session). Aandi > If the source of your material allows you to use pdfmarks > (e.g., FrameMaker) you > can use the following pdfmarks (courtesy of Thomas Merz). I > suppose this would > also work if placed in prologue.ps, but I haven't tried it. > > You can achieve this effect with the /PUT pdfmark as follows: > > [{Catalog} << /Search > << /Indexes [<< /Name /PDX /Index (INDEXNAME.PDX) >>] >> > >> /PUT pdfmark > > (Yes, that's six opening and closing angle brackets each) > > You should however be aware of the fact that this means using > a documented pdfmark operator to achieve an undocumented > PDF feature. The usual warnings apply... > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com [mailto:owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com]On > Behalf Of Arnaud Blanchard > Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 1999 12:23 PM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: [PDF] Autoload of indexes > > > > The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > > Hi everybody, > > Can someone tell me if there's a plug-in to (auto) load and (auto)unload > indexes with > documents ? > > Thanks, > Arnaud D. > > _ > ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ > <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> > <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> > ___________________________________________________________ > _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 23-Jun-1999 21:56:13-GMT,4745;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA28202 for ; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 15:56:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA02123; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 16:55:32 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 23 Jun 1999 16:54:16 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA02004; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 16:54:12 -0500 Message-ID: <37715858.CE4ED07D@cybercable.tm.fr> Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 23:57:44 +0200 From: Arnaud Dine X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [fr] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: fr-FR,en-US MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Autoload of indexes References: <000501bebdbf$8681a880$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Thanks for your very quick answers. I thought there were commercial plug-ins released for loading multiple indexes. What about the option for Macintoshes 'Automount Servers' in the Acrobat Search Preferences ? Regards, Arnaud D. Aandi Inston a écrit : > The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > > This is undocumented, but it simply sets the same information > set by the AUTOINDEX plug-in. This seems safe enough, because > the effect of AUTOINDEX can be completely discovered. > > AUTOINDEX as a plug-in has two parts. > 1. In Exchange it allows you to attach one index to a PDF > file. Just one. > 2. In Exchange OR Reader it checks each file you open to see > if an index is attached. If so, the index is added. > > Autoindex is included in all Reader+Search distributions, so > far as I know. > > It cannot accomodate multiple indexes for one PDF, nor can > it close indexes (though they last only for the current session). > > Aandi > > > If the source of your material allows you to use pdfmarks > > (e.g., FrameMaker) you > > can use the following pdfmarks (courtesy of Thomas Merz). I > > suppose this would > > also work if placed in prologue.ps, but I haven't tried it. > > > > You can achieve this effect with the /PUT pdfmark as follows: > > > > [{Catalog} << /Search > > << /Indexes [<< /Name /PDX /Index (INDEXNAME.PDX) >>] >> > > >> /PUT pdfmark > > > > (Yes, that's six opening and closing angle brackets each) > > > > You should however be aware of the fact that this means using > > a documented pdfmark operator to achieve an undocumented > > PDF feature. The usual warnings apply... > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > [mailto:owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com]On > > Behalf Of Arnaud Blanchard > > Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 1999 12:23 PM > > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > > Subject: [PDF] Autoload of indexes > > > > > > > > The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ > > __________________________________________________________________ > > > > Hi everybody, > > > > Can someone tell me if there's a plug-in to (auto) load and (auto)unload > > indexes with > > documents ? > > > > Thanks, > > Arnaud D. > > > > _ > > ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ > > <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> > > <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> > > ___________________________________________________________ > > > > _ > ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ > <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> > <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> > ___________________________________________________________ > > _ > ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ > <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> > <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> > ___________________________________________________________ _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 23-Jun-1999 22:02:31-GMT,2015;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA28393 for ; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 16:02:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA02904; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 17:01:52 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 23 Jun 1999 17:00:27 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA02763; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 17:00:24 -0500 From: jmaechtlen@amada.com (Jay Maechtlen) To: "'PDF List'" Subject: [PDF] strange bookmarks Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 15:10:36 -0700 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Message-ID: <19990623220422451.AAA227@infosys.amada.com@jmaechtlen.amada.com> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ hello, all I asked a while back, bookmarks in new publications looked (gaps in words) It's not viewing preferences, it's not a display problem. It's spaces getting put into the bookmark text at many (but not all) syllable breaks! Egads... I suspect Ventura at this point- (CVP8 on Win 95) Any pointers? I'll post this on Corel's Ventura newsgroup, see if they come up with anything... Later Jay _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 23-Jun-1999 22:14:42-GMT,3673;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA28696 for ; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 16:14:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA03733; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 17:10:04 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 23 Jun 1999 17:08:41 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA03629; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 17:08:40 -0500 From: Matthew_J_Neal@sbphrd.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: SB_PHARM_RD To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <80256799.00799BB0.00@uksmtp01.ha.uk.sbphrd.com> Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 18:08:01 -0400 Subject: [PDF] ACROBAT 4.0 PROBLEMS Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ In the words of Homer Simpson, "DOH!!!!" Anyway, I am experiencing many problems with the new version of Acrobat 4. Even though I beta tested the software, some things I guess just don't come up until you start "really using" the product in production. It's very frustrating. After a test roll out on a few production machines, we quickly realized that we were not yet ready for prime time Acrobat...we had to rebuild a few machines, even, and return them to an Acrobat 3.01 workstation. Equipment: Pentium II 333, 384 mb Ram Running Windows NT 4 1) Distiller 4: -Very slow initializing -is this software dependent on User Privileges under NT? Some machines/users in the group could not use distiller because it could not load a "timer" ???? 2) Downward compatible: -We maintained many workstations with Acrobat 3.01, and when we open the files created in Acrobat 4, we're getting some weird things, font error messages, etc. -Compose Plug-In (Version 4) does not recognize links made in Acrobat 4 in it's auditing functions. This makes verifying our work very difficult as we were relying on the batch functionality of this plug in. Any word on when a new release of Compose is coming out that will work with Acrobat 4. 3) PDFmaker: -Just in case I did want to use it, I can't. The toolbar icon in Word 97 does nothing, and the menu item "Create PDF" does nothing. What am I missing here? Even in the beta release, I was able to access the PDF maker dialog box...maybe I need to flick a switch somewhere? 4) PDF Writer 4.0: -Is there somewhere (like in the old version) to turn off the "Prompt for filename" option. We have some macro code that sends full directories of files through the PDFWriter and we now have to sit and type in a file name for every file, thus, losing the whole benefit of doing something in batch. 5) Print Spooling: -Extremely slow printing documents. Any help (especially from Adobe or Infodata) would be greatly appreciated. I will be calling Tech support on these issues as well, and I will post any responses. Thanks in advance. Yours in frustration, Matthew Neal ESaRC Group SmithKline Beecham _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 23-Jun-1999 23:09:02-GMT,5910;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA00212 for ; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 17:09:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA08702; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 18:03:41 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 23 Jun 1999 18:02:04 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA08460; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 18:01:57 -0500 Message-ID: <377167F4.DB3F0EBE@scenicsoft.com> Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 16:04:20 -0700 From: sbailey X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] ACROBAT 4.0 PROBLEMS References: <80256799.00799BB0.00@uksmtp01.ha.uk.sbphrd.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hello Matthew, I've seen a number of posts on Adobe's User to User forum regarding Distiller's "timer error" you seem to be experiencing. Acrobat 4.0 must be installed by the Administrator log in, so if you installed from another log in you may want to take the "uninstall and re-install as admin." route. Frankly, I don't think that will resolve the issue. It might be helpful to search the User to User forms, or Adobe's Technical Solutions Database to see if any resolution was found. As for the PDFMaker issue, you should check out document #323246 from Adobe's Technical Solutions database. Here's the URL: http://www.adobe.com/supportservice/custsupport/database.html [Yes, the solution is "tedious"] The PDFWriter behavior you describe was originally accomplished by editing the PDFWriter.ini file. This information is now stored in the registry key 'HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Adobe\Acrobat PDFWriter'. You should download, if you haven't already, the Acrobat SDK and take a look at pages 7-11 of the PDFWriter API Reference [PDFWAPI.PDF]. The Acrobat SDK can be downloaded from: http://partners.adobe.com/asn/developer/acrosdk/main.html I haven't, personally, had difficulty with slow print speeds. One thing to check, though, would be the new 4.0 feature that allows users to "Print as Image". If that is selected in the print dialog, deselect it. Your print times will increase dramatically. I hope this information is helpful. Regards, Samantha Matthew_J_Neal@sbphrd.com wrote: > > The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > > In the words of Homer Simpson, "DOH!!!!" > > Anyway, I am experiencing many problems with the new version of Acrobat 4. > Even though I beta tested the software, some things I guess just don't come > up until you start "really using" the product in production. It's very > frustrating. After a test roll out on a few production machines, we > quickly realized that we were not yet ready for prime time Acrobat...we had > to rebuild a few machines, even, and return them to an Acrobat 3.01 > workstation. > > Equipment: Pentium II 333, 384 mb Ram Running Windows NT 4 > > 1) Distiller 4: > -Very slow initializing > -is this software dependent on User Privileges under NT? Some > machines/users in the group could not use distiller because it could not > load a "timer" ???? > > 2) Downward compatible: > -We maintained many workstations with Acrobat 3.01, and when we open the > files created in Acrobat 4, we're getting some weird things, font error > messages, etc. > -Compose Plug-In (Version 4) does not recognize links made in Acrobat 4 in > it's auditing functions. This makes verifying our work very difficult as > we were relying on the batch functionality of this plug in. Any word on > when a new release of Compose is coming out that will work with Acrobat 4. > > 3) PDFmaker: > -Just in case I did want to use it, I can't. The toolbar icon in Word 97 > does nothing, and the menu item "Create PDF" does nothing. What am I > missing here? Even in the beta release, I was able to access the PDF maker > dialog box...maybe I need to flick a switch somewhere? > > 4) PDF Writer 4.0: > -Is there somewhere (like in the old version) to turn off the "Prompt for > filename" option. We have some macro code that sends full directories of > files through the PDFWriter and we now have to sit and type in a file name > for every file, thus, losing the whole benefit of doing something in batch. > > 5) Print Spooling: > -Extremely slow printing documents. > > Any help (especially from Adobe or Infodata) would be greatly appreciated. > I will be calling Tech support on these issues as well, and I will post any > responses. Thanks in advance. > > Yours in frustration, > Matthew Neal > ESaRC Group > SmithKline Beecham > > _ > ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ > <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> > <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> > ___________________________________________________________ -- ___________________________________________ Samantha M. Bailey | Software Test Engineer 425.355.6655 | http://www.scenicsoft.com _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 23-Jun-1999 23:55:30-GMT,7682;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA01451 for ; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 17:55:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA13051; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 18:54:10 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 23 Jun 1999 18:52:50 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA12941; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 18:52:49 -0500 Message-Id: <199906232352.QAA21006@stonewall.george.com> X-Sender: pcopelan@stonewall.george.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.1 Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 16:51:31 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Patti Copeland Subject: Re: [PDF] strange bookmarks In-Reply-To: <19990623220422451.AAA227@infosys.amada.com@jmaechtlen.amad a.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; types="text/plain,text/html"; boundary="=====================_22235202==_.ALT" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ --=====================_22235202==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hello Jay, I have run into similar situations, but from MSWord (WinNT). If you look carefully, it will probably be only specific characters. That will have most probably been true type font in your original document that was NOT embedded at PostScript or during Distilling. Try rePostScripting and re Distilling the document with Embed TrueType fonts checked in your original application, (if it allows for that somewhere) your Print driver, and Distiller. That should take care of the situation. Good Luck Patti At 03:10 PM 6/23/99 , you wrote: > >The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ >__________________________________________________________________ > >hello, all >I asked a while back, bookmarks in new publications looked (gaps in words) >It's not viewing preferences, it's not a display problem. >It's spaces getting put into the bookmark text at many (but not all) >syllable breaks! >Egads... >I suspect Ventura at this point- (CVP8 on Win 95) >Any pointers? >I'll post this on Corel's Ventura newsgroup, see if they come up with >anything... >Later >Jay > > >_ >____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ ><- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> > <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> >___________________________________________________________ > Patti Copeland Digital Imaging Technician Treasurer George Lithograph, PAA San Francisco Club of Litho BofA On-Site at and Printing House Craftsmen, Inc. Corporate Publications #13258 BofA: BAnet [or 415] 241-3056 Patti Copeland@bankamerica.com George Lithograph: [415] 715-2400 pcopelan@george.com --=====================_22235202==_.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii"
Hello Jay,
I have run into similar situations, but from MSWord (WinNT). If you look carefully, it will probably be only specific characters. That will have most probably been true type font in your original document that was NOT embedded at PostScript or during Distilling.
Try rePostScripting and re Distilling the document with Embed TrueType fonts checked in your original application, (if it allows for that somewhere) your Print driver, and Distiller.
That should take care of the situation.
Good Luck
Patti

At 03:10 PM 6/23/99 , you wrote:
>
>__________________________________________________________________
>
>hello, all
>I asked a while back, bookmarks in new publications looked (gaps in words)
>It's not viewing preferences, it's not a display problem.
>It's spaces getting put into the bookmark text at many (but not all)
>syllable breaks!
>Egads...
>I suspect Ventura at this point- (CVP8 on Win 95)
>Any pointers?
>I'll post this on Corel's Ventura newsgroup, see if they come up with
>anything...
>Later
>Jay
>
>
>_
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><- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java ->
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>___________________________________________________________
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Patti Copeland
Digital Imaging Technician              Treasurer
George Lithograph, PAA          San Francisco Club of Litho
BofA  On-Site at                        and Printing House Craftsmen, Inc.
Corporate Publications #13258   
BofA: BAnet [or 415] 241-3056   
Patti Copeland@bankamerica.com
        
George Lithograph: [415] 715-2400       
pcopelan@george.com
--=====================_22235202==_.ALT-- _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 24-Jun-1999 5:45:07-GMT,1998;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA09858 for ; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 23:45:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA04257; Thu, 24 Jun 1999 00:42:11 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 24 Jun 1999 00:40:20 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA04147; Thu, 24 Jun 1999 00:40:14 -0500 Message-ID: <524A333ECC0AD3119FC300805F851389534DC0@perm02.woodside.com.au> From: "Wraight, David D." To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Overlapping text in PDF(from CAD/PS) Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 13:42:09 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Folks, I need some help here urgently, I have received several large (43Megs large) Postscript files generated from a CAD application. When the files are run through distiller and viewed the characters in the PDF are overlapping and also have shifted location. So even if you could read the text it'd be in the wrong spot anyway :) ... Any thoughts? Suggestions? (recipes for pumpkin soup?) Cheers, Dave....... _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 24-Jun-1999 5:47:19-GMT,1778;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA09931 for ; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 23:47:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA04487; Thu, 24 Jun 1999 00:46:23 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 24 Jun 1999 00:45:18 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA04401; Thu, 24 Jun 1999 00:45:17 -0500 Message-ID: <524A333ECC0AD3119FC300805F851389534DC4@perm02.woodside.com.au> From: "Wraight, David D." To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Autoload of indexes Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 13:47:06 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ If you were on the PC you could use the registry entries to perform this, I have done it in the past with 4 indexes autoloaded - but they aren't attached to the PDF they are attached to a registry key. Dave.... _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 24-Jun-1999 6:18:59-GMT,2380;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA11034 for ; Thu, 24 Jun 1999 00:18:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA06186; Thu, 24 Jun 1999 01:17:13 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 24 Jun 1999 01:15:58 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA06039; Thu, 24 Jun 1999 01:15:57 -0500 Message-ID: <9195DC50A0BBD11184150020AFFC033EF2F7E6@dcvib01> From: Costa-Almeida Antonio SI411 To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Rotation of PDF-files Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 08:15:07 +0200 Sensitivity: Private MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id BAA06035 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi everybody, we have a little problem with wrong orientation of PDF files. We use Distiller 3.02 on NT4 to convert PS-Files from an ORACLE application. Text is correctly placed, but the AcroReader/Exchange show me the portrait...and I cannot rotate pages with the Reader (No, I don't want to rotate files manually with Exchange !). Do someone know how to place the Rotate-command in the prologue.ps File ? Or have someone a better idea ? Bye A. Costa Almeida Standardisierung The Draexlmaier Group Brückenstraße 16 D-84137 Vilsbiburg phone: +49- (0) 8741/47-1802 fax: +49- (0) 8741/47-1936 mailto:Costa.Almeida@draexlmaier.de http://www.draexlmaier.de/ _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 24-Jun-1999 9:19:56-GMT,2793;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA14826 for ; Thu, 24 Jun 1999 03:19:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA15248; Thu, 24 Jun 1999 04:17:59 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 24 Jun 1999 04:16:54 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA15106; Thu, 24 Jun 1999 04:16:53 -0500 Date: 24 Jun 1999 11:17:03 +0200 Message-ID: From: Edouard Janssens Subject: [PDF] Distiller License To: X-Mailer: QuickMail Pro 2.0b8r2 (36.4.1) (Mac) X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-Ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id EAA15102 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I didn't know I would have created so much noise when I posted this question about Distiller as a service. I think that the question about the licensing scheme of Distiller is questionnable since many years, not only in a Inter/Intranet point of view but also in a prep-press workflow point of view. Suppose a pre-press company with, let's say, 50 Quark users. They need to create pdf for customer proof approval. This company has an OPEN workflow porcess (for example with ColorCentral OPI system). These Quark users print to a spool file in their chooser and the workflow place the print file received in ColorCentral in a Distiller Watch'in folder. Distiller generate a PDF file and save it on a ISDN server so the customer can see it. Following the wathced folder licence watch out, this seems illegal. But this is all the concept of OPEN workflow ! A lot of Distiller examples are in the OPEN and ColorCentral manuals and tutorials. Something must be indeed clarify :-) I remember that Microsoft has the same problem when their licensed users began to use largely SQL server on the web with MIIS. How many users should be counted ? _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 24-Jun-1999 9:23:42-GMT,3347;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA14905 for ; Thu, 24 Jun 1999 03:23:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA15239; Thu, 24 Jun 1999 04:17:45 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 24 Jun 1999 04:15:49 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA15041; Thu, 24 Jun 1999 04:15:48 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19990624101635.007d0b90@edinpophub> X-Sender: johnd@edinpophub X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 10:16:35 +0100 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: John Donaldson Subject: Re: [PDF] Problems faced in EPS In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19990623151012.008adcf0@pop.iglou.com> References: <3.0.6.32.19990623153026.007c7630@edinpophub> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >>> " An EPS containing binary data and will not print correctly >>> Continue processing >>> yes NO" >>> >> >>If you're on a PC, then chances are the EPS was created on a Mac and has a >>Mac preview. >> > >How would the preview survive the jump from Mac to PC? You'd have to work >very hard indeed to have that happen, no? The resource fork (where the >preview lives) gets ditched when you move the file from Mac to PC. It's >very normal to lose the preview altogether, but I've never seen an EPS on >the PC with a PICT preview. In fact, I doubt very much that you could even >place such a thing in a PC app, since it wouldn't likely contain the >correct binary header info that'd give it the correct offsets to the start >of the preview image, the start of the PS portion of the EPS and whatnot. Quite. This from the original post of the problem: "The problem is, even if some files open, we get a cross mark (a thick cross mark) in the place of the image." No preview displays. Why? Maybe you are on a PC and the preview is for Mac (the other possibility is that it doesn't have a preview). It also fails to print; its binary encoded, says so itself when you send it to the printer. Unless whoever sent you the file is a real joker you can be reasonably sure that the EPS originated on a Mac. BTW, I don't think its an accident that so many applications choose binary encoding as the default when you save an EPS on the Mac and ASCII when you're on a PC ;-) John --- John Donaldson Macromedia Europe Technical Support Tel: 0131 458 6766 Fax: 0131 458 6765 support@macromedia.co.uk _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 24-Jun-1999 10:29:46-GMT,3853;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA16331 for ; Thu, 24 Jun 1999 04:29:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA18640; Thu, 24 Jun 1999 05:24:49 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 24 Jun 1999 05:20:55 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA18410; Thu, 24 Jun 1999 05:20:54 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: kfoss@mailbag.com Message-Id: Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 05:23:42 -0500 To: PDF@lists.pdfzone.com From: Carole Matthews Subject: [PDF] Opportunity for PDF Developers Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Here is an opportunity for PDF developers. As many of you know, PDFzone co-sponsored PDF Day at Seybold Boston. It was a great success! We're expecting even more excitement around PDF Day San Francisco and are again co-sponsoring the event. The day will highlight what's new and what's hot in PDF. If you're interested in the following opportunity, please reply directly to David Zwang at the email address given in his message below. Please do *not* post your replies back to this list. Best regards, Carole Matthews Editorial Director, PDFzone.com _______________________________________________ Attention PDF application and plug-in developers! My name is David Zwang, and along with Andy Tribute, we will be running PDF Day at Seybold Seminars San Francisco on Wednesday, Sept. 1, 1999. As in the past few Seybold Seminars, PDF Day concluded with a vendor showcase of "new and exciting PDF tools and developments." Due to the overwhelming reviews for this event, we are planning to offer this same session again in San Francisco. In order to qualify for selection as a potential participant, you will need to send me a description of your product as soon as possible. This should be a new product, not already shown at a previous PDF Day showcase, unless it has been significantly changed or improved. The product should be either shipping or soon to be shipping in the Seybold time frame, with very few exceptions. Once we (Andy and I) have had a chance to review these, and perhaps discuss and or demo them, we will make our selection of the approximately 24 best, most exciting new products. At that point, if your product is chosen, you will be permitted 7 minutes during the showcase session to present your product to the audience. Since Sept. 1 is right around the corner, we need to get this process moving quickly. Please send an e-mail and product description to: I look forward to receiving your entries. David L. Zwang Zwang & Company 4 Marion Street Danbury, CT 06810 David@zwang.com Phone: 203 743 2275 Fax: 203 792 7497 _______________________________________________________________ The PDFzone "Your online hub to all things PDF" Carole Matthews Editorial Director, PDFzone.com E-mail: carolem@pdfzone.com WWW: http://www.pdfzone.com _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 24-Jun-1999 11:59:35-GMT,2606;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA18288 for ; Thu, 24 Jun 1999 05:59:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA24274; Thu, 24 Jun 1999 06:57:58 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 24 Jun 1999 06:56:23 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA24111; Thu, 24 Jun 1999 06:56:21 -0500 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 10:04:25 +0100 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: David R Evans Subject: Re: [PDF] Autoload of indexes In-Reply-To: <37715858.CE4ED07D@cybercable.tm.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Version 3.03a Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ In message <37715858.CE4ED07D@cybercable.tm.fr>, Arnaud Dine wrote: >Thanks for your very quick answers. >I thought there were commercial plug-ins released for loading multiple >indexes. Yes, our Multi-Index plug-in allows users to attach multiple indexes to individual PDF files (this can be done in batch too). The plug-in may also be set up to unload the indexes when the document is closed. It is compatible with Acrobat AutoIndex when only one index is loaded. For more information please see our web site http://www.merlin-os.co.uk/ Regards David Evans --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dr David R Evans Telephone: (+44) 115 9860048 / 9514230 Merlin Open Systems Facsimile: (+44) 115 9860048 P O Box 230 E-mail: dre@merlin-os.co.uk NOTTINGHAM WWW: http://www.merlin-os.co.uk/ NG2 1LJ, UK Acrobat resellers, specialists in Adobe Acrobat plug-ins and electronic publishing software, publishers of Acrobatics _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 24-Jun-1999 13:22:37-GMT,2483;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA20169 for ; Thu, 24 Jun 1999 07:22:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA30495; Thu, 24 Jun 1999 08:16:31 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 24 Jun 1999 08:14:41 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA30344; Thu, 24 Jun 1999 08:14:40 -0500 From: "Scott Hamlow" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Rotation of PDF-files Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 06:14:29 -0700 Message-ID: <000a01bebe43$7ddeeb00$45a2fecc@scotth.fourgen.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2232.26 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-Reply-To: <9195DC50A0BBD11184150020AFFC033EF2F7E6@dcvib01> Importance: Normal Sensitivity: Private Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Check out the Distiller Parameters Guide (Help/Distiller Parameters Guide in Distiller). I believe the command you would want is /AutoRotatePages /PagebyPage, but don't quote me on that. > -----Original Message----- > From: Costa-Almeida Antonio SI411 > we have a little problem with wrong orientation of PDF files. We use > Distiller 3.02 on NT4 to convert PS-Files from an ORACLE application. Text > is correctly placed, but the AcroReader/Exchange show me the portrait...and > I cannot rotate pages with the Reader (No, I don't want to rotate files > manually with Exchange !). > > Do someone know how to place the Rotate-command in the prologue.ps File ? Or > have someone a better idea ? _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 24-Jun-1999 13:31:28-GMT,3102;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA20350 for ; Thu, 24 Jun 1999 07:31:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA31872; Thu, 24 Jun 1999 08:30:52 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 24 Jun 1999 08:29:42 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA31754; Thu, 24 Jun 1999 08:29:40 -0500 Message-ID: <9195DC50A0BBD11184150020AFFC033EF2F7EA@dcvib01> From: Costa-Almeida Antonio SI411 To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: AW: [PDF] Rotation of PDF-files Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 15:28:48 +0200 Sensitivity: Private MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id IAA31750 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi, I've allready try this parameter, but nothing happens...:-( -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Scott Hamlow [mailto:scott.hamlow@hksystems.com] Gesendet am: Donnerstag, 24. Juni 1999 15:14 An: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Betreff: RE: [PDF] Rotation of PDF-files Vertraulichkeit: Privat The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Check out the Distiller Parameters Guide (Help/Distiller Parameters Guide in Distiller). I believe the command you would want is /AutoRotatePages /PagebyPage, but don't quote me on that. > -----Original Message----- > From: Costa-Almeida Antonio SI411 > we have a little problem with wrong orientation of PDF files. We use > Distiller 3.02 on NT4 to convert PS-Files from an ORACLE application. Text > is correctly placed, but the AcroReader/Exchange show me the portrait...and > I cannot rotate pages with the Reader (No, I don't want to rotate files > manually with Exchange !). > > Do someone know how to place the Rotate-command in the prologue.ps File ? Or > have someone a better idea ? _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 24-Jun-1999 14:19:53-GMT,2234;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA21640 for ; Thu, 24 Jun 1999 08:19:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA03033; Thu, 24 Jun 1999 09:18:33 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 24 Jun 1999 09:16:52 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA02806; Thu, 24 Jun 1999 09:16:50 -0500 Message-Id: <912D474F4F6FD2119ADB00902717752F27F357@IFCEX02NT> From: "LaBrecque, Sharyl IFC" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Saving pdf files Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 08:28:17 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hello, Thanks to everyone for all their help on previous issues. I have yet another issue and was hoping all you pdf wizards might again steer me in the right direction. :) I am currently the web master for our departments little internal home page and most of the docs we have online are in pdf format. We also have all of our forms in pdf and some are fillable as well. I am constantly approached with the need to save a form to a user's hard drive once it has been filled in (for personal record keeping). I have yet to find a solution to this. It is a constant issue here, and I would appreciate any input you could offer. Thank in advance again! Sharyl _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 24-Jun-1999 14:32:33-GMT,2903;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA22018 for ; Thu, 24 Jun 1999 08:32:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA03938; Thu, 24 Jun 1999 09:29:03 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 24 Jun 1999 09:27:52 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA03804; Thu, 24 Jun 1999 09:27:51 -0500 Message-Id: <199906241427.HAA01550@mail.inficad.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 07:27:49 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Saving pdf files From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ If I understand the question correctly, you want a user to be able to fill in a form and save it to his hard drive. Is this right? If so, he can't with Reader. He has to have Acrobat 4x or Exchange. Sounds an expensive way to go to fill in a form, but that's the way it is. > I have yet another issue and was hoping all you pdf wizards might again > steer me in the right direction. :) I am currently the web master for our > departments little internal home page and most of the docs we have online > are in pdf format. We also have all of our forms in pdf and some are > fillable as well. I am constantly approached with the need to save a form > to a user's hard drive once it has been filled in (for personal record > keeping). I have yet to find a solution to this. It is a constant issue > here, and I would appreciate any input you could offer. > > Thank in advance again! > Sharyl Rich ---------------------------------------------------------------- Rich Sprague PDF Solutions/Consulting (480) 860-0050 Print Management & Production richsprague@inficad.com 4-Color Digital Printing http://www.inficad.com/~richsprague Sheetfed & Web Printing *38* years experience ---------------------------------------------------------------- _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 24-Jun-1999 14:54:32-GMT,1836;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA22675 for ; Thu, 24 Jun 1999 08:54:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA06164; Thu, 24 Jun 1999 09:53:04 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 24 Jun 1999 09:51:48 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA06021; Thu, 24 Jun 1999 09:51:46 -0500 From: tsequeira@symcorinc.ca X-Lotus-FromDomain: SYMCORINC To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <8525679A.00508437.00@symnts1h.symcorinc.ca> Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 10:48:38 -0400 Subject: Re: [PDF] Saving pdf files Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Whilst it may not be possible to save the pdf file which is a "filled-in form", the data from that form can be saved in a database. For more information I would encourage you to check the site www.x-streem.com. A company called X-Streem software does extensive work in pd forms and saving data from those forms. Tino _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 24-Jun-1999 16:51:31-GMT,3903;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA26386 for ; Thu, 24 Jun 1999 10:51:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA16319; Thu, 24 Jun 1999 11:45:04 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 24 Jun 1999 11:41:55 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA15953; Thu, 24 Jun 1999 11:41:53 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 09:36:45 -0700 Message-ID: <0014B791.1343@seatimes.com> From: jrackerby@seatimes.com (Jayson Rackerby) To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Horror stories with Acrobat 4 in PrePress/Production Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="IMA.Boundary.605242039" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ --IMA.Boundary.605242039 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Howdy all: I've been waiting and waiting and waiting for all the horror stories about Acrobat 4 files and the pain they are causing service bureaus and printers, but haven't really seen/heard that many. Are folks quietly suffering, not using 4 or not really having many problems? In my initial tests of v4 for use in printing newspaper display ads all seems to work well with our existing processes (I haven't tried color yet) and I really like some of the new features (on the MacOS). Am I in for an ugly/pleasant surprise? Tks Jayson --IMA.Boundary.605242039 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; name="RFC822 message headers" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Content-Disposition: inline; filename="RFC822 message headers" Received: from seatimes-fw1.seatimes.com (192.251.219.14) by ccmail.seatimes.com with SMTP (IMA Internet Exchange 2.11 Enterprise) id 0014B255; Wed, 23 Jun 99 22:47:23 -0700 Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by seatimes-fw1.seatimes.com (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA23671 for ; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 22:47:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA04204; Thu, 24 Jun 1999 00:41:13 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 24 Jun 1999 00:40:20 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA04147; Thu, 24 Jun 1999 00:40:14 -0500 Message-ID: <524A333ECC0AD3119FC300805F851389534DC0@perm02.woodside.com.au> From: "Wraight, David D." To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Overlapping text in PDF(from CAD/PS) Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 13:42:09 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:listowner@pdfzone.com --IMA.Boundary.605242039-- _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 24-Jun-1999 18:38:32-GMT,2345;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA29665 for ; Thu, 24 Jun 1999 12:38:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA26521; Thu, 24 Jun 1999 13:33:15 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 24 Jun 1999 13:29:08 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA26093; Thu, 24 Jun 1999 13:29:07 -0500 Message-ID: <377278BD.BA89E44B@moen.com> Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 14:28:13 -0400 From: Jennifer Amon X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.07C-SGI [en] (X11; I; IRIX 6.3 IP32) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] PDF -> DXF??? References: <80256799.00799BB0.00@uksmtp01.ha.uk.sbphrd.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I've got to ask.... We user PDFs of our engineering drawings in a web-based find/view/print application. The natural next question (at least from an engineering point of view) is "Can we make DXF files out of PDF files?" I said, "I doubt it, but it doesn't hurt to ask." So, I'm asking. Jennifer -- _____________________________________________________________________ Jennifer R. Amon Phone: 440-962-2471 Sr. Programmer/Analyst FAX: 440-962-2739 Moen Incorporated Personal: jamon@apk.net 25300 Al Moen Drive Business: jamon@moen.com North Olmsted, OH 44070 Web: http://junior.apk.net/~jamon/ _____________________________________________________________________ _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 24-Jun-1999 19:04:03-GMT,3689;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA00488 for ; Thu, 24 Jun 1999 13:04:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA29148; Thu, 24 Jun 1999 14:03:02 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 24 Jun 1999 14:00:11 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA28809; Thu, 24 Jun 1999 14:00:06 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990624150314.008f7720@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 15:03:14 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] Problems faced in EPS In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.19990624101635.007d0b90@edinpophub> References: <3.0.5.32.19990623151012.008adcf0@pop.iglou.com> <3.0.6.32.19990623153026.007c7630@edinpophub> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >Quite. This from the original post of the problem: "The problem is, even if >some files open, we >get a cross mark (a thick cross mark) in the place of the image." > >No preview displays. Why? Maybe you are on a PC and the preview is for Mac >(the other possibility is that it doesn't have a preview). I think you've missed my point. If the EPS were created on the Mac with a PICT preview, the preview is in the resource fork of the file on the Mac. When moved to a PC, only the data fork of the EPS comes over. You simply wouldn't HAVE an EPS on a PC with a Mac preview. >It also fails to >print; its binary encoded, says so itself when you send it to the printer. >Unless whoever sent you the file is a real joker you can be reasonably sure >that the EPS originated on a Mac. > Several apps on the PC will happily save binary EPS. Photoshop, for instance. Depending on your hardware setup and the printers/interpreters you use, this may or may not print. >BTW, I don't think its an accident that so many applications choose binary >encoding as the default when you save an EPS on the Mac and ASCII when >you're on a PC ;-) > Exactly. FWIW, it's sometimes possible to work around the problem. Print from the app to a PS file, locate the EPS in the PS output, strip away the rest of the file and save as a new_file.EPS Bring that into Photoshop, re-save as EPS, specifying ASCII. Reopen the original PS file, locate the original (binary) EPS again, select and cut it, then paste the ASCII-saved EPS back in its place. Not something I'd do for weekend entertainment when large files are involved, but when there's a deadline looming, well .... you do what you have to do. Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 24-Jun-1999 19:05:28-GMT,2783;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA00548 for ; Thu, 24 Jun 1999 13:05:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA29332; Thu, 24 Jun 1999 14:04:47 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 24 Jun 1999 14:02:20 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA29091; Thu, 24 Jun 1999 14:02:19 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990624150531.008fed10@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 15:05:31 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] Problems faced in EPS In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.19990624101635.007d0b90@edinpophub> References: <3.0.5.32.19990623151012.008adcf0@pop.iglou.com> <3.0.6.32.19990623153026.007c7630@edinpophub> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Oh, by the way ... I noticed that one of the entries in the Macromedia tech database on the web points people at some guy's AOL web site to download a utility called EPSWMF. Given the vagaries of AOL, and given the fact that I have it on my site, you could point people there instead if you like. www.rdpslides.com I wrote it, so that'll always be the most up-to-date version of the thing. ;-) >--- >John Donaldson >Macromedia Europe Technical Support >Tel: 0131 458 6766 >Fax: 0131 458 6765 >support@macromedia.co.uk >_ >____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ ><- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> > <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> >___________________________________________________________ > > Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 24-Jun-1999 20:15:57-GMT,1616;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA02577 for ; Thu, 24 Jun 1999 14:15:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA02397; Thu, 24 Jun 1999 15:10:13 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 24 Jun 1999 15:06:59 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA02035; Thu, 24 Jun 1999 15:06:56 -0500 From: Laurie_Coyne@amsinc.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: AMSINC To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <8525679A.006E3EE6.00@ams-central-gate-5a.amsinc.com> Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 15:57:16 -0400 Subject: [PDF] Convert PDF to Word 97 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Is it possible to take a PDF file and convert it into a Word97 document. Hum... _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 24-Jun-1999 20:58:41-GMT,2452;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA03876 for ; Thu, 24 Jun 1999 14:58:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA06557; Thu, 24 Jun 1999 15:57:15 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 24 Jun 1999 15:54:34 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA06257; Thu, 24 Jun 1999 15:54:32 -0500 Message-Id: <199906242054.NAA98550@mail.inficad.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 13:54:29 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Convert PDF to Word 97 From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Yes and no. No, you can't *convert* the file directly. Yes, Yyou can copy and paste text from a PDF into a Word doc. You can also buy a plug-in from Gemini (or others) that will save the text in a PDF file...and more...which then you can open in other applications. The cost is a little over $200.00 and a review can be read at http://www.planetpdf.com. > Is it possible to take a PDF file and convert it into a Word97 document. Rich ---------------------------------------------------------------- Rich Sprague PDF Solutions/Consulting (480) 860-0050 Print Management & Production richsprague@inficad.com 4-Color Digital Printing http://www.inficad.com/~richsprague Sheetfed & Web Printing *38* years experience ---------------------------------------------------------------- _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 25-Jun-1999 11:41:09-GMT,1782;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA24802 for ; Fri, 25 Jun 1999 05:41:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA25031; Fri, 25 Jun 1999 06:34:59 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 25 Jun 1999 06:27:34 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA24442; Fri, 25 Jun 1999 06:27:32 -0500 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 12:24:38 +0100 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: ron Subject: [PDF] font corrupted MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 4.02 M Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Successfully adding links to a set of merged pdfs Opened the file the next day to continue and have received a message that Arial 083.313 is not available. The normal text in just one of the merged files is a series of dots and dashes. Ital and bold is OK Any ideas what has happened -- regards Ron _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 25-Jun-1999 14:10:51-GMT,1908;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA28346 for ; Fri, 25 Jun 1999 08:10:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA03290; Fri, 25 Jun 1999 09:09:02 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 25 Jun 1999 09:05:32 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA03009; Fri, 25 Jun 1999 09:05:30 -0500 Date: 25 Jun 1999 16:05:50 +0200 Message-ID: <099be9a09a4d085d7619d6e6d44acec137738c88@> From: Edouard Janssens Subject: [PDF] PDF to GIF or PS to GIF To: "PDF Mailing-List" X-Mailer: QuickMail Pro 2.0b8r2 (36.4.1) (Mac) X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-Ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id JAA03001 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I'm searching for a "xatch folder based" tool aable to render a gif file from a PDF or a PS file. In fact I search something like Acrobat Distiller but wich generate Gif files (of JPG files) from a PS or PDF input file. Thanks. _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 25-Jun-1999 14:32:13-GMT,3008;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA28899 for ; Fri, 25 Jun 1999 08:32:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA04635; Fri, 25 Jun 1999 09:26:41 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 25 Jun 1999 09:23:58 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA04390; Fri, 25 Jun 1999 09:23:57 -0500 From: Laura.Dietz@arcor.net X-Lotus-FromDomain: ARCOR To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <4125679B.00543831.00@slz-01-hub01.cni.net> Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 16:23:04 +0100 Subject: Antwort: Antwort: Re: [PDF] Microsoft Font Embedding / Word As Layout Program / whatever Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi Michael, Which PS-Driver/PPD dou you use? can you also map fonts, which aren't in the printer, but on your harddisk? Regards, Laura Dietz =================================================================== Mannesmann Arcor AG & Co., Koelnerstr. 5, 65760 Eschborn , Germany =================================================================== Laura Dietz, FIO E-Mail: Laura.Dietz@arcor.net Phone: +49 69 2169 - 5659, Fax: - 3939 =================================================================== For more information: http://www.arcor.net =================================================================== Michael Vorel 22.06.99 23:29 Bitte antworten an pdf@lists.pdfzone.com An: "INTERNET:pdf@lists.pdfzone.com" Kopie: (Blindkopie: Laura Dietz/FIO_EXT/Eschborn/Arcor) Thema: Antwort: Re: [PDF] Microsoft Font Embedding / Word As Layout Program / whatever Message text written by INTERNET:pdf@lists.pdfzone.com >>just tell the driver to map TT to the corresponding T1. My printerdriver (adobePS) does not allow me to map any T1 font, as long as ATM is not installed ... or have i missed something?< Laura, On my system (NT 4.0 Workstation and Server) I can direct the printer to substitute TT fonts to map to any native fonts in the printer. I believe many PPD's list or name the native fonts just to ensure correct font calls...... _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 25-Jun-1999 14:52:46-GMT,3192;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA29431 for ; Fri, 25 Jun 1999 08:52:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA06641; Fri, 25 Jun 1999 09:50:59 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 25 Jun 1999 09:48:18 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA06428; Fri, 25 Jun 1999 09:48:12 -0500 Message-ID: <002601bebf19$c5d04180$8d74d99b@aatd.eustis.army.mil> From: "Paul Redden" To: References: <099be9a09a4d085d7619d6e6d44acec137738c88@> Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF to GIF or PS to GIF Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 10:43:47 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Image Alchemy PS from Handmade Software will convert from PDF and PS to GIF/ TIFF /JPEG and some 90 other formats. It lists for $400 at www.handmadesw.com and is available for Windows, Mac and Unix. I'm using it to convert high res monochrome scanned images of handwritten documents to lower resolution grayscale GIF files for display on the web on some of the free genealogy resources. I can't convince them to use PDF but Alchemy does a good job of conversion and does image manipulation in the same pass. All text, links, and other features are also converted. Paul Redden www.digital-antiquities.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Edouard Janssens To: PDF Mailing-List Sent: Friday, June 25, 1999 10:05 AM Subject: [PDF] PDF to GIF or PS to GIF > > The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > > I'm searching for a "xatch folder based" tool aable to render a gif file from a > PDF or a PS file. > In fact I search something like Acrobat Distiller but wich generate Gif files > (of JPG files) from a PS or PDF input file. > Thanks. > > > _ > ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ > <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> > <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> > ___________________________________________________________ > _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 25-Jun-1999 17:36:32-GMT,2117;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA04519 for ; Fri, 25 Jun 1999 11:36:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA23498; Fri, 25 Jun 1999 12:32:20 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 25 Jun 1999 12:27:36 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA23018; Fri, 25 Jun 1999 12:27:34 -0500 From: jmaechtlen@amada.com (Jay Maechtlen) To: "'PDF List'" Subject: re: [PDF] PDF -> DXF??? Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 10:37:56 -0700 Message-ID: <000601bebf31$76b79cc0$e640dccf@jmaechtlen.amada.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ ... The natural next question (at least from an engineering ... point of view) is "Can we make DXF files out of PDF files?" Not directly- but, Corel Draw 8/9 will "Open" (or import, if you prefer) a PDF file, at which point you can do anything you want with it... Including export to DXF (and two dozen other formats...) Corel has scripting, so you can even automate it somewhat if needed.. Have fun! Jay _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 25-Jun-1999 20:04:07-GMT,2231;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA08985 for ; Fri, 25 Jun 1999 14:04:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA03176; Fri, 25 Jun 1999 14:58:13 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 25 Jun 1999 14:55:10 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA02858; Fri, 25 Jun 1999 14:55:04 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990625155814.008fc370@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 15:58:14 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: re: [PDF] PDF -> DXF??? In-Reply-To: <000601bebf31$76b79cc0$e640dccf@jmaechtlen.amada.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > >Not directly- >but, Corel Draw 8/9 will "Open" (or import, if you prefer) a PDF file, at >which point you can do anything you want with it... >Including export to DXF (and two dozen other formats...) >Corel has scripting, so you can even automate it somewhat if needed.. > I'd go for Draw9 ... Draw7 & 8's PDF import wasn't so hot. They've taken it ahead by leaps and bounds with Draw 9. Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 25-Jun-1999 21:50:33-GMT,2433;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA12182 for ; Fri, 25 Jun 1999 15:50:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA11249; Fri, 25 Jun 1999 16:48:24 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 25 Jun 1999 16:46:25 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA10901; Fri, 25 Jun 1999 16:46:24 -0500 Message-ID: <3773F8A9.3B97E4AD@lucent.com> Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 15:46:17 -0600 From: Richard Morrison Organization: Lucent Technologies/Bell Labs X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Acro 4 bug? LAN URLs Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ With Acrobat Reader and Exchange 3, I can access files on a LAN with URLs of the following types: file://servername.denver.ourcorp.com/archive/file51.pdf file://servername/archive/file51.pdf With Acrobat 4, these URLs cause the page to download but the plug-in is not invoked and an empty screen is displayed. Even if the plug-in is already loaded and active, these URLs turn it off. "Document Done" is displayed and no errors are generated. On the other hand, URLs using a mapped drive DO work for Acrobat 3 AND 4. For example: file:///E|/archive/file51.pdf where E: is mapped to a shared directory. I have tried many various combinations of slashes, pipes, etc in the URL prefix to no avail. My client configuration is: Acrobat 4.0 0318 16:59 NT 4.0 SP3 Netscape 4.04 and 4.61 -- Richard Morrison morrison@lucent.com _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 25-Jun-1999 22:35:40-GMT,2725;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA13656 for ; Fri, 25 Jun 1999 16:35:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA14071; Fri, 25 Jun 1999 17:34:22 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 25 Jun 1999 17:32:57 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA13912; Fri, 25 Jun 1999 17:32:56 -0500 Message-ID: <37740547.8836D19A@pre-print.com> Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 16:41:43 -0600 From: Gunnar Blodgett X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Transfer Functions in Acrobat 4 References: <4.1.19990529214457.00b534e0@mail-303> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Good afternoon all We've found a bit of a functionality loss in Acrobat 4 that's impacting our workflow. Acrobat 3 used to give us 3 options for transfer functions: apply, preserve and remove. "Apply" found the existing transfer function for a given EPS halftone and re-applied it to that halftone when creating the PDF. There didn't seem to be much difference between "preserve" and "remove"; neither one resulted any transfer function. Acrobat 4 doesn't have "apply", and Adobe doesn't seem to know why. We can't really go back to Acrobat 3 for shipping documents to our printer because Acrobat 3 removes the transparencies from transparent TIFFs. Anybody know how we can Distill PostScript files containing halftones that will both preserve transparencies in TIFFs and maintain the transfer function in EPSs? Is there a commercial plug-in avaiable? Maybe Aandi's got something in his Quite a Box of Tricks that might be of assistance? -- Most respectfully, Gunnar Blodgett Production Analyst Pre Print, Inc. (780) 488-6688 x 338 _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 26-Jun-1999 0:34:14-GMT,2180;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA16714 for ; Fri, 25 Jun 1999 18:34:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA20539; Fri, 25 Jun 1999 19:26:57 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 25 Jun 1999 19:25:10 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA20430; Fri, 25 Jun 1999 19:25:08 -0500 Message-Id: <199906260028.TAA15520@gate.mcdermott.com> From: "Wynne, Graham " To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] linking from MS word to specific location in PDF document Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 18:24:00 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I am new to the list and need help which I have not been able to find in the archives. We have a networked information access system using an MS Word document log as a starting point (because it is easier to revise), hyperlinked to a collection of pdf files. Is there a way to describe the "Named location" in our link from Word to a particular book mark or location in a pdf file? Word can not "See" bookmarks in PDF so we can not pick them up by browsing. We are using acrobat 4.0. Thanks for your help. Graham Wynne _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 26-Jun-1999 0:52:33-GMT,1708;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA17145 for ; Fri, 25 Jun 1999 18:52:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA21964; Fri, 25 Jun 1999 19:51:56 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 25 Jun 1999 19:50:45 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA21866; Fri, 25 Jun 1999 19:50:44 -0500 Message-ID: <377423CA.5464BC53@adobe.com> Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 17:50:18 -0700 From: Roberto Perelman Organization: Adobe Systems Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Acro 4 bug? LAN URLs References: <3773F8A9.3B97E4AD@lucent.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ This is a bug in Acrobat, which will be fixed in some future release. _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 26-Jun-1999 0:58:39-GMT,1669;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA17283 for ; Fri, 25 Jun 1999 18:58:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA22428; Fri, 25 Jun 1999 19:58:06 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 25 Jun 1999 19:57:00 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA22274; Fri, 25 Jun 1999 19:56:59 -0500 Message-Id: <199906260057.TAA17339@dsi.data-source.com> X-Sender: jzach@data-source.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 19:55:37 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Joe Zacharias Subject: [PDF] CGI script info Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ We're wanting to do some Forms / CGI stuff. Anyone know of a good place to look for info on this? Thanks Joe _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 26-Jun-1999 11:26:58-GMT,4812;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA01394 for ; Sat, 26 Jun 1999 05:26:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA18229; Sat, 26 Jun 1999 06:23:21 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 26 Jun 1999 06:20:48 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA18113; Sat, 26 Jun 1999 06:20:46 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Transfer Functions in Acrobat 4 Date: Sat, 26 Jun 1999 12:20:33 +0100 Message-ID: <000001bebfc5$e97e8cc0$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <37740547.8836D19A@pre-print.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > We've found a bit of a functionality loss in Acrobat 4 that's > impacting > our workflow. Acrobat 3 used to give us 3 options for transfer > functions: apply, preserve and remove. "Apply" found the existing > transfer function for a given EPS halftone and re-applied it to that > halftone when creating the PDF. There didn't seem to be much > difference > between "preserve" and "remove"; neither one resulted any transfer > function. > > Acrobat 4 doesn't have "apply", and Adobe doesn't seem to know why. We > can't really go back to Acrobat 3 for shipping documents to > our printer > because Acrobat 3 removes the transparencies from transparent TIFFs. > > Anybody know how we can Distill PostScript files containing halftones > that will both preserve transparencies in TIFFs and maintain the > transfer function in EPSs? Is there a commercial plug-in avaiable? > Maybe Aandi's got something in his Quite a Box of Tricks that might be > of assistance? Adobe claim that this is no longer necessary: that ignore and preserve are the only settings needed. This is because Acrobat 4.0 will honour the transfer functions on screen - hence, the visible effect is the same as Apply. But, that doesn't help if you are making files compatible with 3.0. I sometimes think Adobe do need someone in charge of spending five minutes thinking about backwards compatibility... Hmmm. An option in box of tricks to apply transfer functions. Surprisingly nasty. One peculiar attribute of transfer functions is that they are supposed to be applied only on the output device - affecting the CMYK, RGB, or greyscale output directly, without regard to the original colour space. That means that the SAME transfer function can have DIFFERENT results on a greyscale, RGB, or CMYK output device. (RGB not important? Don't you want to see PDFs on screen?) A well-written PostScript file will do clever stuff. Well, actually, a well-written PostScript file won't use transfer functions at all, but there is a team at Adobe dedicated to finding ever more ingenious uses for transfer functions. So...a well-written PostScript file will check whether the output device is CMYK, RGB, or greyscale and set a different transfer function depending which it is. But this sort of cleverness is lost in PDF. There is one and only one transfer function. I don't believe I've ever seen it explained what Acrobat does. Since the focus is on pre-press, I'd guess it coverts colours to a nominal CMYK, applies the transfer function, and goes back to the original colour space. But that is highly dubious if colour management is in use. I other words...I can't see how to do transfer functions and keep accurate colour. Any clues? Actually, I didn't know about transparency going from transparent TIFFs. What workflow is that? It sounds as though it is using features only found in PostScript 3 - so there may be a fall back. (Though, masked images can only exist in PostScript 3/Acrobat 4; before that cut-out images had to be used - with a clipping path, not a mask). Aandi _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 26-Jun-1999 16:09:32-GMT,2724;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA07378 for ; Sat, 26 Jun 1999 10:09:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA32662; Sat, 26 Jun 1999 11:07:35 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 26 Jun 1999 11:03:16 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA32285; Sat, 26 Jun 1999 11:03:08 -0500 X-Sender: weller@pop3.axion.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 26 Jun 1999 09:06:08 -0800 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: weller@axion.net (Angus Weller) Subject: [PDF] IMac's and G3's and PDFViewer Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hello, I am having some trouble configuring IMac's and G3's to implement Acrobat Reader as a helper application in Netscape. In the past I've dropped the plug-in into the appropriate folder and could either use the plug-in directly or could go into my Prefences folder find the plug-in and activate the program. When I have been doing this on the machines mentioned the plug-in isn't appearing in the Navigator/Applications window. Thus, I cannot configure the Browser to access PDF files. Have you experienced this problem? Does anyone have any solutions? I didn't look to see which version of Reader and PDFViewer are being used I assume it is the most up-to-date version. It is the version being shipped pre-loaded on the Macs. I still think it would be great if Adobe would come to some agreement with Netscape and IE to have the plug-in pre-loaded into the appropriate folder. Thanks, Angus ************************************* Angus Weller 6268 129th St., Surrey, British Columbia, Canada, V3X 1S6 Tel: (604) 591-5192 e-mail: weller@axion.net or travel-media@bc1.com Internet store: www.travel-media.com ************************************* _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 26-Jun-1999 16:54:43-GMT,2753;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA08395 for ; Sat, 26 Jun 1999 10:54:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA02690; Sat, 26 Jun 1999 11:53:31 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 26 Jun 1999 11:52:18 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA02613; Sat, 26 Jun 1999 11:52:17 -0500 Message-Id: <199906261652.JAA05724@mail.inficad.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Sat, 26 Jun 1999 09:52:17 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] IMac's and G3's and PDFViewer From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Angus: Are you doing a full installation of Reader and/or Acrobat? In other words, if you install either of the programs, the installer will do everything that's necessary to get you up and running, including put the plug-in in the Netscape plug-in folder. Hopefully you're using the latest version of Netscape (4.6). If not, you should upgrade, then remove Acrobat/Reader from your disk. Go ahead and do a clean installation. Again, you should be using Acrobat/Reader 4x. It should work. I do not remember reports of similar problems. I have a G3 and I prefer and use Netscape. > I am having some trouble configuring IMac's and G3's to implement > Acrobat Reader as a helper application in Netscape. > Angus Good luck. Rich ---------------------------------------------------------------- Rich Sprague PDF Solutions/Consulting (480) 860-0050 Print Management & Production richsprague@inficad.com 4-Color Digital Printing http://www.inficad.com/~richsprague Sheetfed & Web Printing *38* years experience ---------------------------------------------------------------- _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 26-Jun-1999 17:51:09-GMT,3728;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA09634 for ; Sat, 26 Jun 1999 11:51:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA05476; Sat, 26 Jun 1999 12:49:06 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 26 Jun 1999 12:47:32 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA05369; Sat, 26 Jun 1999 12:47:30 -0500 X-Sender: weller@pop3.axion.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 26 Jun 1999 10:50:31 -0800 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: weller@axion.net (Angus Weller) Subject: Re: [PDF] IMac's and G3's and PDFViewer Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Rich, I have been trying to set up connections in our local Mac dealership. Neither they or I can figure out why the software pre-shipped with the machines they are recieving will not see the plug-in. My concern is that I am publishing an pdf atlas for the general public. As I consider myself fairly knowledgeable with both the Mac (11 years) and Acrobat (2 years as a publisher not a programer) I am concerned that novice users will give up on using any file listed as a pdf file if their machine won't recognize the files as an intergrated part of their browser. Since the machines aren't mine I am reluctant to re-install software on their computers. And even if I could I don't have the time to configure 250,000 computers that may be operating in the Greater Vancouver Region :-). Perhaps, there is some glitch in the software being shipped to Canada? I am truly worried that a fantastic publishing resource will fall by the way side if novice users (and some sophisticated users) do not get instant gratification with the Reader software in their Browsers. In the last two weeks I've spent 3 hours at the dealer's trying to show them the ad I built them. You look really foolish when you can't get the product to work. And it does work extremely well in Navigator, much better that the results in IE. The IE results are terrible in that links don't go to the "go to view" locations and the navigation bar at the bottom of the page is partially hidden. But at least I am able to configure the plug-in in about 2 minute in IE. I wish your advice was something every user could use. I think the set up has to be easier or we will loose big pieces of the general public as users. (and I don't think it is something that I can handle other than to express my concerns in the hope that Adobe will make the interface simpler to implement) Thanks for you attention, Rich. Angus ************************************* Angus Weller 6268 129th St., Surrey, British Columbia, Canada, V3X 1S6 Tel: (604) 591-5192 e-mail: weller@axion.net or travel-media@bc1.com Internet store: www.travel-media.com ************************************* _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 26-Jun-1999 21:22:38-GMT,1712;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA14414 for ; Sat, 26 Jun 1999 15:22:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA16050; Sat, 26 Jun 1999 16:20:34 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 26 Jun 1999 16:18:17 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA15885; Sat, 26 Jun 1999 16:18:16 -0500 Message-ID: <3775436B.AFBEC6AE@adobe.com> Date: Sat, 26 Jun 1999 14:17:31 -0700 From: Roberto Perelman Organization: Adobe Systems Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] CGI script info References: <199906260057.TAA17339@dsi.data-source.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ http://www.adobe.com/prodindex/acrobat/PDFS/acr4formssysnotes.pdf _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 28-Jun-1999 0:06:03-GMT,4452;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA19815 for ; Sun, 27 Jun 1999 18:06:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA30161; Sun, 27 Jun 1999 19:02:42 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 27 Jun 1999 18:53:47 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA29392; Sun, 27 Jun 1999 18:53:42 -0500 Message-ID: <3776B950.45DAB8CE@virgin.net> Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 00:52:48 +0100 From: "g.imrie" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Problems printing a Mac symbol to PDF Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------0446A641385BED5FD105224F" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ --------------0446A641385BED5FD105224F Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi After lurking on this group for a few months, I figured it was time I contributed....the fact that the contribution "just happens" to coincide with a problem which has arisen is just that--coincidence ;=) The problem is this: as part of a tuition project for a handicapped youngster, I need to convert the Mac Ctrl symbol (a square with circles at each corner) into a PDF file. However, the font I'm using (by an outfit called Soft Horizons, dating from 1993) keeps generating the following error message:- "SymbolsAPlentySH cannot be embedded due to licensing restrictions" Given that I found this font on a supposedly "freeware" file site, it's a bit rich to get hit with the above, surely? I've tried contacting the firm, but can find no trace of them on the Web. Can somebody tell me if they are still in existence, and if so, how I contact them from Scotland? Also, can anyone let me know of an alternative font with this symbol which WILL compile through Acrobat v4.0? Many thanx for your time Geo. Imrie Clipart Unlimited--suppliers of quality B&W clipart to the DTP industry for 20 years. --------------0446A641385BED5FD105224F Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi

After lurking on this group for a few months, I figured it was time I contributed....the fact that the contribution "just happens" to coincide with a problem which has arisen is just that--coincidence ;=)

The problem is this: as part of a tuition project for a handicapped youngster, I need to convert the Mac Ctrl symbol (a square with circles at each corner) into a PDF file. However, the font I'm using (by an outfit called Soft Horizons, dating from 1993) keeps generating the following error message:-
    "SymbolsAPlentySH cannot be embedded due to licensing restrictions"
Given that I found this font on a supposedly "freeware" file site, it's a bit rich to get hit with the above, surely?

I've tried contacting the firm, but can find no trace of them on the Web. Can somebody tell me if they are still in existence, and if so, how I contact them from Scotland?

Also, can anyone let me know of an alternative font with this symbol which WILL compile through Acrobat v4.0?

Many thanx for your time

Geo. Imrie
Clipart Unlimited--suppliers of quality B&W clipart to the DTP industry for 20 years.
  --------------0446A641385BED5FD105224F-- _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 28-Jun-1999 5:43:30-GMT,5585;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA27138 for ; Sun, 27 Jun 1999 23:43:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA15055; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 00:39:06 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 28 Jun 1999 00:34:10 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA14806; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 00:34:09 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: axxess@mail.earthlink.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3776B950.45DAB8CE@virgin.net> References: <3776B950.45DAB8CE@virgin.net> Date: Sun, 27 Jun 1999 22:33:47 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: axel schonfeld Subject: Re: [PDF] Problems printing a Mac symbol to PDF Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="============_-1281574453==_ma============" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ --============_-1281574453==_ma============ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" g.imrie wrote: ________________ > Hi > > After lurking on this group for a few months, I figured it was time I >contributed....the fact that the contribution "just happens" to coincide >with a problem which has arisen is just that--coincidence ;=) > > The problem is this: as part of a tuition project for a handicapped >youngster, I need to convert the Mac Ctrl symbol (a square with circles at >each corner) into a PDF file. However, the font I'm using (by an outfit >called Soft Horizons, dating from 1993) keeps generating the following >error message:- > "SymbolsAPlentySH cannot be embedded due to licensing restrictions" > Given that I found this font on a supposedly "freeware" file site, it's >a bit rich to get hit with the above, surely? > > I've tried contacting the firm, but can find no trace of them on the >Web. Can somebody tell me if they are still in existence, and if so, how I >contact them from Scotland? > > Also, can anyone let me know of an alternative font with this symbol >which WILL compile through Acrobat v4.0? > > Many thanx for your time > > Geo. Imrie > Clipart Unlimited--suppliers of quality B&W clipart to the DTP industry >for 20 years. ________________ Try Wingdings, character "z". Better yet, contact Apple to see if use of the symbol is unrestricted. I don't know whether they hold any rights to it or whether it's in the public domain, but given your vocation, a little caution might be in order. Acknowledge also that much of what is collected and then "published" as freeware has been assembled without regard to rightful ownership. In legal terms, if the item in question (font, art, symbol, etc.) was originally pilfered, you are in possession of stolen goods. It's a bit like passing counterfeit money: The person caught spending it is likely to be the first held liable. Best. a. --============_-1281574453==_ma============ Content-Type: text/enriched; charset="us-ascii" g.imrie wrote: ________________ Hi After lurking on this group for a few months, I figured it was time I contributed....the fact that the contribution "just happens" to coincide with a problem which has arisen is just that--coincidence ;=) The problem is this: as part of a tuition project for a handicapped youngster, I need to convert the Mac Ctrl symbol (a square with circles at each corner) into a PDF file. However, the font I'm using (by an outfit called Soft Horizons, dating from 1993) keeps generating the following error message:- "SymbolsAPlentySH cannot be embedded due to licensing restrictions" Given that I found this font on a supposedly "freeware" file site, it's a bit rich to get hit with the above, surely? I've tried contacting the firm, but can find no trace of them on the Web. Can somebody tell me if they are still in existence, and if so, how I contact them from Scotland? Also, can anyone let me know of an alternative font with this symbol which WILL compile through Acrobat v4.0? Many thanx for your time Geo. Imrie Clipart Unlimited--suppliers of quality B&W clipart to the DTP industry for 20 years. ________________ Try Wingdings, character "z". Better yet, contact Apple to see if use of the symbol is unrestricted. I don't know whether they hold any rights to it or whether it's in the public domain, but given your vocation, a little caution might be in order. Acknowledge also that much of what is collected and then "published" as freeware has been assembled without regard to rightful ownership. In legal terms, if the item in question (font, art, symbol, etc.) was originally pilfered, you are in possession of stolen goods. It's a bit like passing counterfeit money: The person caught spending it is likely to be the first held liable. Best. a. --============_-1281574453==_ma============-- _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 28-Jun-1999 6:44:35-GMT,2794;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA28843 for ; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 00:44:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA17657; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 01:41:58 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 28 Jun 1999 01:38:53 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA17509; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 01:38:52 -0500 Message-Id: <199906280638.XAA79499@mail.inficad.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Sun, 27 Jun 1999 23:38:49 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Problems printing a Mac symbol to PDF From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Good solution. Wingdings is a Microsoft font and it will embed. While the command-key is buried in Apple's Chicago font (control-q), Apple will not allow it to be embedded. For the most part, if a font is not licensed to embed, Distiller or PDF Writer will not embed it, and will post an error message accordingly. >> The problem is this: as part of a tuition project for a handicapped >> youngster, I need to convert the Mac Ctrl symbol (a square with circles at >> each corner) into a PDF file. > Try Wingdings, character "z". Better yet, contact Apple to see if use of > the symbol is unrestricted. I don't know whether they hold any rights to it > or whether it's in the public domain, but given your vocation, a little > caution might be in order. Rich ---------------------------------------------------------------- Rich Sprague PDF Solutions/Consulting (480) 860-0050 Print Management & Production richsprague@inficad.com 4-Color Digital Printing http://www.inficad.com/~richsprague Sheetfed & Web Printing *38* years experience ---------------------------------------------------------------- _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 28-Jun-1999 6:51:39-GMT,2728;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA28989 for ; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 00:51:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA18066; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 01:51:00 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 28 Jun 1999 01:48:35 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA17952; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 01:48:33 -0500 Message-ID: <9195DC50A0BBD11184150020AFFC033EF2F7EE@dcvib01> From: Costa-Almeida Antonio SI411 To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Rotation of PDF-files with prologue/epilogue Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 08:47:39 +0200 Sensitivity: Private MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id BAA17948 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi again, we have a little problem with wrong orientation of PDF files. We use Distiller 3.02 on NT4 to convert PS-Files from an ORACLE application. Text is correctly placed, but the AcroReader/Exchange show me the portrait...and I cannot rotate pages with the Reader (No, I don't want to rotate files manually with Exchange !). The Orientation-flag won't rotate the page, only place the correct text orientation... Do someone know how to place the PS-Rotate-command in the prologue or epilog file ? Bye A. Costa Almeida Standardisierung The Draexlmaier Group Brückenstraße 16 D-84137 Vilsbiburg phone: +49- (0) 8741/47-1802 fax: +49- (0) 8741/47-1936 mailto:Costa.Almeida@draexlmaier.de http://www.draexlmaier.de/ _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 28-Jun-1999 7:06:43-GMT,2222;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA29276 for ; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 01:06:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA18678; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 02:04:41 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 28 Jun 1999 02:03:34 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA18599; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 02:03:33 -0500 From: fredrik.sjogren@folksam.se (Fredrik Sjogren) To: Subject: RE: [PDF] PDF to GIF or PS to GIF Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 09:07:32 +0200 Message-Id: <000501bec134$e45e0660$1901090a@graphics.intern.folksam.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 In-Reply-To: <099be9a09a4d085d7619d6e6d44acec137738c88@> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ you can use a photoshop action to do so. open the PDF in Photoshop and chose the page you want to convert. save it as a gif/jpg. all this can be set as a action and performed on a catalogh. \\\fred > I'm searching for a "xatch folder based" tool aable to render a > gif file from a > PDF or a PS file. > In fact I search something like Acrobat Distiller but wich > generate Gif files > (of JPG files) from a PS or PDF input file. > Thanks. > _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 28-Jun-1999 7:30:04-GMT,2181;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA29719 for ; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 01:30:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA19640; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 02:28:48 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 28 Jun 1999 02:27:35 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA19575; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 02:27:34 -0500 Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 09:27:31 +0200 (MEST) From: Martin Weber To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [PDF] Remove Bitmap fonts from PS and PDF X-Authenticated-Sender: #0000425797@gmx.net X-Authenticated-IP: [194.127.3.3] Message-Id: <22552.930554851@www5.gmx.net> X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 1.5 (Global Message Exchange) X-Flags: 0001 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Dear Sir, do you know a utility to remove embedded fonts especially bitmap fonts from Postscript and pdf files. Yours Martin -- Sent through Global Message Exchange - http://www.gmx.net _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 28-Jun-1999 8:13:19-GMT,1782;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA00783 for ; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 02:13:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA20750; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 02:55:04 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 28 Jun 1999 02:53:05 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA20638; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 02:53:01 -0500 Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 09:52:59 +0200 (MEST) From: Martin Weber To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [PDF] Merge PS and pdf files X-Authenticated-Sender: #0000425797@gmx.net X-Authenticated-IP: [194.127.3.3] Message-Id: <3620.930556379@www4.gmx.net> X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 1.5 (Global Message Exchange) X-Flags: 0001 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ How do I merge several pdf files or how do I merge several Postscript files? -- Sent through Global Message Exchange - http://www.gmx.net _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 28-Jun-1999 8:32:34-GMT,2007;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA01168 for ; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 02:32:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA22229; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 03:31:05 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 28 Jun 1999 03:26:56 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA21994; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 03:26:55 -0500 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 09:23:45 +0100 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: ron Subject: Re: [PDF] Merge PS and pdf files References: <3620.930556379@www4.gmx.net> In-Reply-To: <3620.930556379@www4.gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 4.02 M Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Image Solutions have a good plugin You can add and remove complete pdf documents in Acrobat 4 In message <3620.930556379@www4.gmx.net>, mailto:Martin Weber writes > >The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ >__________________________________________________________________ > >How do I merge several pdf files or how do I merge several Postscript >files? > -- regards Ron Drinkwater _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 28-Jun-1999 10:04:52-GMT,1902;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA03208 for ; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 04:04:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA25594; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 04:54:09 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 28 Jun 1999 04:49:15 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA25395; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 04:49:14 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Merge PS and pdf files Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 10:49:03 +0100 Message-ID: <001a01bec14b$749b5f00$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <3620.930556379@www4.gmx.net> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ To merge PDF files, use Document > Insert pages in Acrobat (Exchange). > How do I merge several pdf files or how do I merge several Postscript > files? Aandi _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 28-Jun-1999 10:18:28-GMT,2226;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA03485 for ; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 04:18:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA26606; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 05:17:39 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 28 Jun 1999 05:13:40 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA26357; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 05:13:39 -0500 Message-ID: <040944A92C91D211954D00C095EE82684FF041@POST> From: Andriollo Mario To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: AW: [PDF] Merge PS and pdf files Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 12:13:10 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id FAA26353 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hello Aandi, the easiest (and most comfortable) way to combine several pdf files is to use Software Partners "Compose" or a similar tool but you can also append a pdf file to another in Adobe´s Exchange (open the first file, go to the end of it and then select Document > Insert Pages). Kind regards Mario > ---------- > Von: Aandi Inston[SMTP:quite@dial.pipex.com] > Antwort an: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Gesendet: Montag, 28. Juni 1999 11:49 > An: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Betreff: RE: [PDF] Merge PS and pdf files > > > _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 28-Jun-1999 12:17:49-GMT,1719;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA05935 for ; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 06:17:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA31770; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 07:12:12 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 28 Jun 1999 07:08:09 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA31501; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 07:08:07 -0500 Message-id: Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 09:12:42 -0300 Subject: Re: RE: [PDF] Acro 4 bug? LAN URLs X-FC-Icon-ID: 2032 X-FC-MachineGenerated: true To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: bsanderson@artworks.ca (Brenda Sanderson) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I am out of the office until Tueday, July 13. My mail has been forwarded automatically to Pam Murray (3230) and Ann Simmons (2106). _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 28-Jun-1999 12:17:52-GMT,3223;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA05939 for ; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 06:17:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA31702; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 07:11:36 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 28 Jun 1999 07:05:54 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA31304; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 07:05:52 -0500 Message-ID: <00EF773582D6D111939D00A0C9A92F640424FB4F@il0015exch003u.ih.lucent.com> From: "Farrell, Kevin (Kevin)" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] Acro 4 bug? LAN URLs Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 07:05:50 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Verify that the PDFs are optimized. This is not as noticeable w/Acrobat 3.0 viewers as it is when viewed/accessed w/4.0. This worked for me just recently and hope it solves your situation. Kevin -----Original Message----- From: Morrison, Richard O (Richard) Sent: Friday, June 25, 1999 4:46 PM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Acro 4 bug? LAN URLs The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ With Acrobat Reader and Exchange 3, I can access files on a LAN with URLs of the following types: file://servername.denver.ourcorp.com/archive/file51.pdf file://servername/archive/file51.pdf With Acrobat 4, these URLs cause the page to download but the plug-in is not invoked and an empty screen is displayed. Even if the plug-in is already loaded and active, these URLs turn it off. "Document Done" is displayed and no errors are generated. On the other hand, URLs using a mapped drive DO work for Acrobat 3 AND 4. For example: file:///E|/archive/file51.pdf where E: is mapped to a shared directory. I have tried many various combinations of slashes, pipes, etc in the URL prefix to no avail. My client configuration is: Acrobat 4.0 0318 16:59 NT 4.0 SP3 Netscape 4.04 and 4.61 -- Richard Morrison morrison@lucent.com _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 28-Jun-1999 12:32:44-GMT,2898;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA06278 for ; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 06:32:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA00112; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 07:31:35 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 28 Jun 1999 07:27:33 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA32618; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 07:27:32 -0500 Message-Id: <199906281227.HAA32613@everglades.binc.net> From: "Kitchen, James x1298" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Merge PS and pdf files Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 08:30:00 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ In Acrobat 4.0 you can simply drag and drop files into other pdf files. Open the first file and then drag the second over the file and a window should appear to let you select where you want it put within the first file. You really need to do this one file at a time, because Acrobat doesn't seem to bring these files in correct order. As a side note this also works with importing files into Acrobat. James Kitchen GENICOM ---------- From: ron To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Merge PS and pdf files Date: Monday, June 28, 1999 4:23AM The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Image Solutions have a good plugin You can add and remove complete pdf documents in Acrobat 4 In message <3620.930556379@www4.gmx.net>, mailto:Martin Weber writes > >The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ >__________________________________________________________________ > >How do I merge several pdf files or how do I merge several Postscript >files? > -- regards Ron Drinkwater _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 28-Jun-1999 12:32:48-GMT,1720;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA06282 for ; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 06:32:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA00131; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 07:31:53 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 28 Jun 1999 07:28:08 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA32665; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 07:28:05 -0500 Message-id: Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 09:32:44 -0300 Subject: Re(2): [PDF] Merge PS and pdf files X-FC-Icon-ID: 2032 X-FC-MachineGenerated: true To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: bsanderson@artworks.ca (Brenda Sanderson) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I am out of the office until Tueday, July 13. My mail has been forwarded automatically to Pam Murray (3230) and Ann Simmons (2106). _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 28-Jun-1999 12:41:09-GMT,2261;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA06492 for ; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 06:41:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA00643; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 07:40:10 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 28 Jun 1999 07:36:22 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA00403; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 07:36:21 -0500 Message-ID: <6356609CDE33D211BC1C0008C7A4E4B36A3B72@CFCO01EM01> From: "Hamm, John" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] remove Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 07:36:04 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ remove -----Original Message----- From: bsanderson@artworks.ca [mailto:bsanderson@artworks.ca] Sent: Monday, June 28, 1999 7:13 AM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: RE: [PDF] Acro 4 bug? LAN URLs The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I am out of the office until Tueday, July 13. My mail has been forwarded automatically to Pam Murray (3230) and Ann Simmons (2106). _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 28-Jun-1999 12:42:08-GMT,1701;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA06522 for ; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 06:42:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA00693; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 07:41:14 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 28 Jun 1999 07:37:28 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA00498; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 07:37:27 -0500 Message-id: Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 09:42:06 -0300 Subject: Re: [PDF] remove X-FC-Icon-ID: 2032 X-FC-MachineGenerated: true To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: bsanderson@artworks.ca (Brenda Sanderson) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I am out of the office until Tueday, July 13. My mail has been forwarded automatically to Pam Murray (3230) and Ann Simmons (2106). _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 28-Jun-1999 13:48:15-GMT,1797;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA08132 for ; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 07:48:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA05243; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 08:41:10 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 28 Jun 1999 08:36:11 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA04745; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 08:36:08 -0500 Message-ID: <6McPFCAQm3d3kBKf@turnpike.com> Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 14:33:04 +0100 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Ron Drinkwater Subject: [PDF] Image (article) size MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 4.02 M Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I have linked from the tabs on every page of a document to the first page of a Part. The only way I can do this is to make the first page of each part an article. Unfortunately this means that the article fills the screen. Is there any way of setting the displayed size of an article -- regards Ron _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 28-Jun-1999 13:49:11-GMT,1715;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA08165 for ; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 07:49:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA05482; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 08:43:30 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 28 Jun 1999 08:39:44 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA05111; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 08:39:44 -0500 Message-id: Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 10:44:24 -0300 Subject: Re: [PDF] Image (article) size X-FC-Icon-ID: 2032 X-FC-MachineGenerated: true To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: bsanderson@artworks.ca (Brenda Sanderson) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I am out of the office until Tueday, July 13. My mail has been forwarded automatically to Pam Murray (3230) and Ann Simmons (2106). _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 28-Jun-1999 13:51:05-GMT,1697;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA08219 for ; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 07:51:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA06087; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 08:50:11 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 28 Jun 1999 08:46:20 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA05743; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 08:46:19 -0500 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 14:43:11 +0100 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Ron Drinkwater Subject: [PDF] Application error MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 4.02 M Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I am getting the following message when I close Acrobat 4 The instruction at Ox029232eb reference memory at Ox0000000b. The memory could not be 'read'. Any ideas. The document appears ok -- regards Ron _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 28-Jun-1999 13:51:29-GMT,1712;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA08225 for ; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 07:51:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA06125; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 08:50:44 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 28 Jun 1999 08:46:51 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA05779; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 08:46:50 -0500 Message-id: Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 10:51:30 -0300 Subject: Re: [PDF] Application error X-FC-Icon-ID: 2032 X-FC-MachineGenerated: true To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: bsanderson@artworks.ca (Brenda Sanderson) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I am out of the office until Tueday, July 13. My mail has been forwarded automatically to Pam Murray (3230) and Ann Simmons (2106). _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 28-Jun-1999 14:00:55-GMT,1950;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA08443 for ; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 08:00:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA06929; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 08:59:56 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 28 Jun 1999 08:55:58 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA06621; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 08:55:57 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: listowner@mailbag.com (Unverified) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 08:58:49 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: List Administrator Subject: Re: [PDF] remove Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Sorry for the intrusion, folks. We've removed the "on vacation" address from the list, so please don't post a public message about it to prolong the nuisance. -- PDFzone.COM === > >I am out of the office until Tueday, July 13. My mail has been forwarded >automatically to _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 28-Jun-1999 14:46:11-GMT,1852;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA09721 for ; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 08:46:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA10427; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 09:44:21 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 28 Jun 1999 09:40:53 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA10215; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 09:40:52 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Leslie, Cynthia" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Problems faced in EPS Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 10:39:24 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2559.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Following this long and increasing complicated thread has tickled my curiosity! Would the person with the bad EPS file please zip it up and e-mail it to me off-list? I'm a PostScript software engineer, and I'd like to take a look at it. Thanks. - Cynthia Leslie _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 28-Jun-1999 16:11:07-GMT,2290;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA12538 for ; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 10:11:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA17251; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 11:08:37 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 28 Jun 1999 11:05:22 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA16904; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 11:05:21 -0500 Message-ID: From: Glunz Wolfgang To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] PDF -> DXF??? Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 18:07:00 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ This is possible with pstoedit: http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Network/1958/pstoedit/ Wolfgang > -----Original Message----- > From: Jennifer Amon [SMTP:jamon@moen.com] > Sent: Thursday, June 24, 1999 8:28 PM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: [PDF] PDF -> DXF??? > > > The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > > I've got to ask.... > > We user PDFs of our engineering drawings in a web-based > find/view/print application. > > The natural next question (at least from an engineering > point of view) is "Can we make DXF files out of PDF files?" > > I said, "I doubt it, but it doesn't hurt to ask." So, I'm > asking. > > _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 28-Jun-1999 16:45:02-GMT,2802;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA13693 for ; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 10:45:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA19744; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 11:41:03 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 28 Jun 1999 11:38:54 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA19524; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 11:38:52 -0500 Message-Id: <199906281638.JAA46060@mail.inficad.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 09:38:38 -0700 Subject: [PDF] ACROBAT JOB LOG IN WINDOZE From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Twice in the recent past we've had posts from people who wished the Acrobat Job Log would not be created on the PC when there was no error in the PDF distill process. This does not happen automatically on the Mac, as it does on the PC. Today, when I was trying to test a PS file made on a PC and distill it on the Mac, the Job Log (with no error) was made on the Mac side. This would lead me to believe that the code that invokes the Job Log is in the Distiller print driver on the PC, as that's what I used to create the PS file. I had looked before, and I looked again, in Distiller's Properties to see if there was anything that might be able to be turned off. Regrettably, I know what happens, and I think I know how it happens, but I have no clue how to solve the problem. Rich ---------------------------------------------------------------- Rich Sprague PDF Solutions/Consulting (480) 860-0050 Print Management & Production richsprague@inficad.com 4-Color Digital Printing http://www.inficad.com/~richsprague Sheetfed & Web Printing *38* years experience ---------------------------------------------------------------- _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 28-Jun-1999 17:00:36-GMT,3069;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA14144 for ; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 11:00:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA21161; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 11:57:24 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 28 Jun 1999 11:56:11 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA20935; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 11:56:04 -0500 X-Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated X-Division: Core Technologies X-Department: Product Interoperability Analysis X-URL: Message-Id: <4.1.19990628095032.02597ef0@mail-303> X-Sender: isaacs@mail-303 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 09:54:38 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Dov Isaacs Subject: Re: [PDF] ACROBAT JOB LOG IN WINDOZE Cc: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com In-Reply-To: <199906281638.JAA46060@mail.inficad.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ You are correct. The log file is the result of the AdobePS Windows driver's writing status information to the PostScript "backchannel" each time a page boundary is reached in interpretation of PostScript. For the Acrobat Distiller, all backchannel operations are written to the log file. For better or worse, there is currently no means by which the log file or comments to the backchannel can be disabled. - Dov At 6/28/99 09:38 AM , Rich Sprague wrote: >Twice in the recent past we've had posts from people who wished the Acrobat >Job Log would not be created on the PC when there was no error in the PDF >distill process. > >This does not happen automatically on the Mac, as it does on the PC. > >Today, when I was trying to test a PS file made on a PC and distill it on >the Mac, the Job Log (with no error) was made on the Mac side. > >This would lead me to believe that the code that invokes the Job Log is in >the Distiller print driver on the PC, as that's what I used to create the PS >file. > >I had looked before, and I looked again, in Distiller's Properties to see if >there was anything that might be able to be turned off. > >Regrettably, I know what happens, and I think I know how it happens, but I >have no clue how to solve the problem. > >Rich _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 28-Jun-1999 17:24:12-GMT,3570;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA14885 for ; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 11:24:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA23028; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 12:20:50 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 28 Jun 1999 12:18:52 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA22866; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 12:18:50 -0500 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19990628171852.00971b8c@env-sol.com> X-Sender: thiersch@env-sol.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 10:18:52 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Tom Thiersch Subject: Re: [PDF] ACROBAT JOB LOG IN WINDOWS (was WINDOZE -- let's skip the pejorative, ok?) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I've noticed that there is no log file generated when using DISTASST on Win PCs -- this helps, at least in some situations, to avoid those pesky "no-information" logs. Distiller's global "messages.log" still contains a record of the activity, so you can always look at the last couple of jobs if you need to. The above is with Acrobat 3; I haven't switched my production environment to Acrobat 4 yet, so I don't know how much of this will still apply. FWIW Tom Thiersch At 09:54 AM 6/28/99 -0700, you wrote: > >The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ >__________________________________________________________________ > >You are correct. The log file is the result of the AdobePS Windows driver's >writing status information to the PostScript "backchannel" each time a >page boundary is reached in interpretation of PostScript. For the Acrobat >Distiller, all backchannel operations are written to the log file. For >better or worse, there is currently no means by which the log file >or comments to the backchannel can be disabled. > > - Dov > >At 6/28/99 09:38 AM , Rich Sprague wrote: >>Twice in the recent past we've had posts from people who wished the Acrobat >>Job Log would not be created on the PC when there was no error in the PDF >>distill process. >> >>This does not happen automatically on the Mac, as it does on the PC. >> >>Today, when I was trying to test a PS file made on a PC and distill it on >>the Mac, the Job Log (with no error) was made on the Mac side. >> >>This would lead me to believe that the code that invokes the Job Log is in >>the Distiller print driver on the PC, as that's what I used to create the PS >>file. >> >>I had looked before, and I looked again, in Distiller's Properties to see if >>there was anything that might be able to be turned off. >> >>Regrettably, I know what happens, and I think I know how it happens, but I >>have no clue how to solve the problem. >> >>Rich > _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 28-Jun-1999 18:09:48-GMT,4429;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA16390 for ; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 12:09:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA26592; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 13:03:48 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 28 Jun 1999 13:02:06 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA26381; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 13:02:03 -0500 X-Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated X-Division: Core Technologies X-Department: Product Interoperability Analysis X-URL: Message-Id: <4.1.19990628105924.00a01f10@mail-303> X-Sender: isaacs@mail-303 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 11:00:20 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Dov Isaacs Subject: Re: [PDF] ACROBAT JOB LOG IN WINDOWS (was WINDOZE -- let's skip the pejorative, ok?) In-Reply-To: <2.2.32.19990628171852.00971b8c@env-sol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ In fact, use of the Distiller Assistant with Acrobat 3 has nothing to do with production of a log file or not. It is the choice of driver that causes this. At 6/28/99 10:18 AM , you wrote: > >The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ >__________________________________________________________________ > >I've noticed that there is no log file generated when using DISTASST on Win >PCs -- this helps, at least in some situations, to avoid those pesky >"no-information" logs. > >Distiller's global "messages.log" still contains a record of the activity, >so you can always look at the last couple of jobs if you need to. > >The above is with Acrobat 3; I haven't switched my production environment to >Acrobat 4 yet, so I don't know how much of this will still apply. > >FWIW > >Tom Thiersch > >At 09:54 AM 6/28/99 -0700, you wrote: >> >>The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ >>__________________________________________________________________ >> >>You are correct. The log file is the result of the AdobePS Windows driver's >>writing status information to the PostScript "backchannel" each time a >>page boundary is reached in interpretation of PostScript. For the Acrobat >>Distiller, all backchannel operations are written to the log file. For >>better or worse, there is currently no means by which the log file >>or comments to the backchannel can be disabled. >> >> - Dov >> >>At 6/28/99 09:38 AM , Rich Sprague wrote: >>>Twice in the recent past we've had posts from people who wished the Acrobat >>>Job Log would not be created on the PC when there was no error in the PDF >>>distill process. >>> >>>This does not happen automatically on the Mac, as it does on the PC. >>> >>>Today, when I was trying to test a PS file made on a PC and distill it on >>>the Mac, the Job Log (with no error) was made on the Mac side. >>> >>>This would lead me to believe that the code that invokes the Job Log is in >>>the Distiller print driver on the PC, as that's what I used to create the PS >>>file. >>> >>>I had looked before, and I looked again, in Distiller's Properties to see if >>>there was anything that might be able to be turned off. >>> >>>Regrettably, I know what happens, and I think I know how it happens, but I >>>have no clue how to solve the problem. >>> >>>Rich >> > >_ >____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ ><- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> > <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> >___________________________________________________________ _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 28-Jun-1999 18:49:38-GMT,4259;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA17585 for ; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 12:49:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA30141; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 13:48:09 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 28 Jun 1999 13:45:56 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA29884; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 13:45:54 -0500 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19990628184559.0097c124@env-sol.com> X-Sender: thiersch@env-sol.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 11:45:59 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Tom Thiersch Subject: Re: [PDF] ACROBAT JOB LOG IN WINDOWS Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Ok, let's try again: Using Distiller Assistant with the default print driver "Acrobat Distiller 3.01" in Windows NT 4, no job-specific Distiller log file is created. In fact, I don't recall "choosing" the driver -- that's just the way that it was installed by Adobe's SETUP program, and I've never had any reason to change it, other than upgrading a while ago to Distiller 3.02. Tom Thiersch At 11:00 AM 6/28/99 -0700, you wrote: > >In fact, use of the Distiller Assistant with Acrobat 3 has nothing >to do with production of a log file or not. It is the choice of >driver that causes this. > > >At 6/28/99 10:18 AM , you wrote: >> >>I've noticed that there is no log file generated when using DISTASST on Win >>PCs -- this helps, at least in some situations, to avoid those pesky >>"no-information" logs. >> >>Distiller's global "messages.log" still contains a record of the activity, >>so you can always look at the last couple of jobs if you need to. >> >>The above is with Acrobat 3; I haven't switched my production environment to >>Acrobat 4 yet, so I don't know how much of this will still apply. >> >>FWIW >> >>Tom Thiersch >> >>At 09:54 AM 6/28/99 -0700, you wrote: >>> >>>The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ >>>__________________________________________________________________ >>> >>>You are correct. The log file is the result of the AdobePS Windows driver's >>>writing status information to the PostScript "backchannel" each time a >>>page boundary is reached in interpretation of PostScript. For the Acrobat >>>Distiller, all backchannel operations are written to the log file. For >>>better or worse, there is currently no means by which the log file >>>or comments to the backchannel can be disabled. >>> >>> - Dov >>> >>>At 6/28/99 09:38 AM , Rich Sprague wrote: >>>>Twice in the recent past we've had posts from people who wished the Acrobat >>>>Job Log would not be created on the PC when there was no error in the PDF >>>>distill process. >>>> >>>>This does not happen automatically on the Mac, as it does on the PC. >>>> >>>>Today, when I was trying to test a PS file made on a PC and distill it on >>>>the Mac, the Job Log (with no error) was made on the Mac side. >>>> >>>>This would lead me to believe that the code that invokes the Job Log is in >>>>the Distiller print driver on the PC, as that's what I used to create the PS >>>>file. >>>> >>>>I had looked before, and I looked again, in Distiller's Properties to see if >>>>there was anything that might be able to be turned off. >>>> >>>>Regrettably, I know what happens, and I think I know how it happens, but I >>>>have no clue how to solve the problem. >>>> >>>>Rich >>> >> _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 28-Jun-1999 18:59:08-GMT,2510;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA17956 for ; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 12:59:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA31070; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 13:58:15 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 28 Jun 1999 13:57:00 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA30914; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 13:56:57 -0500 Message-Id: <199906281856.LAA82924@mail.inficad.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 11:56:50 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] ACROBAT JOB LOG IN WINDOWS From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ It does happen in Acrobat 4x, Windoze 98. Automatically. Can't be changed. > Ok, let's try again: Using Distiller Assistant with the default print > driver "Acrobat Distiller 3.01" in Windows NT 4, no job-specific Distiller > log file is created. > > In fact, I don't recall "choosing" the driver -- that's just the way that it > was installed by Adobe's SETUP program, and I've never had any reason to > change it, other than upgrading a while ago to Distiller 3.02. > > Tom Thiersch Rich ---------------------------------------------------------------- Rich Sprague PDF Solutions/Consulting (480) 860-0050 Print Management & Production richsprague@inficad.com 4-Color Digital Printing http://www.inficad.com/~richsprague Sheetfed & Web Printing *38* years experience ---------------------------------------------------------------- _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 28-Jun-1999 22:21:28-GMT,5221;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA24031 for ; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 16:21:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA12649; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 17:16:24 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 28 Jun 1999 17:14:10 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA12476; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 17:14:07 -0500 Message-Id: <199906282214.PAA36010@mail.inficad.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 15:14:00 -0700 Subject: [PDF] TIFF CORRUPTION From: "Rich Sprague" To: Sue Campbell CC: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Sue has a problem that I've been looking into for her. She has a single page, grayscale doc with four images...two tiffs and two eps. The file was created in Pagemaker 6.5.2 on the Mac. This was a sample created for me at my request, but the problem is consistent when she uses grayscale tiffs in a PDF file. For her, the problem comes about when she uses imposition software such as Preps or Presswise. The images corrupt and come out looking like some sort of barcode. However, there is clearly something wrong with the 4x PDF files. The problem is only symptomatic in Acrobat 4x. It doesn't happen in 3x. I used both the PDF she supplied and created my own, both from her provided PS file and from PS I made from her Pagemaker file. I checked the Pagemaker doc and all four picture boxes are made the same way. While I do not have the imposition software, I did use PitStop to check the files. PitStop would not recognize the two tiff files in the Acrobat 4x files...any of them. Sometimes it choked and wouldn't do it's pre-flight routine. If it didn't choke, then it gave an error on the two tiff images saying there are form objects in the document. I don't know what these are and can't find a reference to them anywhere...in the manuals or on Enfocus's or Adobe's web site. I tried taking one of the tiff images and placing it in Quark. Printed a PS file and distilled. I did not have a problem in 4x with the Quark file. I also tried taking the 4x PDFs from Pagemaker and opened them in Illustrator. The two images in question were missing, although the masks were in place. I ran Pre-Flight Pro on her Pagemaker file, and the only anamoly was that one of the images had LZW compression, which shouldn't be a problem in PS Level 2, or affect the other image. I took both her PS file, and mine, and distilled in 3x, or in 4x with 3x compatibility. Those PDF files I was able to edit properly with PitStop. Bottom line: It appears that grayscale tiffs, included in Pagemaker 6.5.2 docs, made on the Mac, and distilled with 4x compatibility, cause some sort of corruption in the PDF file. Anyone have any ideas. Is this a real bug? >>> Appreciate you looking at this. The page is pretty ugly as I threw it >>> together. I would like to note that we only have this problem when we are >>> printing out of our imposition software. We have Preps and PressWise both >>> support importing of PDF although they launch Exchange and send PostScript >>> code to the RIP. It is kina hard to decsribe what they look like when they >>> print, sort of like barcodes only you can see pieces of image in the bands. >>> >>> The work arounds we have are saving the Tiffs as Photoshop EPS or Use >>> Distiller 4.0 with 3.0 compatibility selected. This is fine and dandy when >>> we have control over converting the files, but being a service provider we >>> have to deal with all file formats. >>> >>> The specifics are: PostScript generated for PageMaker 6.5, Distilled using >>> Acrobat 3.02 >>> >>> >>> Best Regards, Sue > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Sue Campbell > Training & Production Coordinator > Thomson-Shore, Inc. Rich ---------------------------------------------------------------- Rich Sprague PDF Solutions/Consulting (480) 860-0050 Print Management & Production richsprague@inficad.com 4-Color Digital Printing http://www.inficad.com/~richsprague Sheetfed & Web Printing *38* years experience ---------------------------------------------------------------- _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 28-Jun-1999 22:22:51-GMT,2082;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA24079 for ; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 16:22:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA13012; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 17:22:10 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 28 Jun 1999 17:21:01 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA12901; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 17:21:00 -0500 Message-ID: <012601bec1b4$6d7598d0$b3959a8e@webdev.megatexte.qc.ca> From: "Philippe Caya" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] TIFF CORRUPTION Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 18:20:27 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ If you can attach the file to a mail, I'd be happy to look into it for you. It could be a number of thing. It could be your Tiffs are encapsulated into other objects like containers or maybe they are Grouped... If the file is not too big, please send me a copy and I'll check it out. Philippe --------------------- Philippe Caya pcaya@megatexte.qc.ca ---------- MEGATEXTE pré-impression Montréal, Québec - _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 29-Jun-1999 0:45:57-GMT,2074;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA28107 for ; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 18:45:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA21661; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 19:43:38 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 28 Jun 1999 19:39:41 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA21449; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 19:39:39 -0500 From: Dfw2ory@aol.com Message-ID: <95f0baed.24a96fb6@aol.com> Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 20:39:18 EDT Subject: [PDF] PDF to DocuTech To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 13 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ We are having problems getting shades of gray to print on the DocuTech. The file was created in Word and distilled using Acrobat 3.0. The shades of gray appear on the screen, but when made into a post-script to be sent to the DocuTech they disappear. We tried making a .prn straight from Word and that seems to work fine. Due to page numbering and combining mutiple files, we need to use PDF. What we have are text boxes with gray shading behind the text. The text shows up but the shading does not. Are there any PDF to DocuTech guru's out there? TIA, David _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 29-Jun-1999 2:35:41-GMT,1609;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA00886 for ; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 20:35:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA28781; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 21:33:57 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 28 Jun 1999 21:32:01 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA28639; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 21:31:59 -0500 From: tsequeira@symcorinc.ca X-Lotus-FromDomain: SYMCORINC To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <8525679F.000CC7D1.00@symnts1h.symcorinc.ca> Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 22:27:04 -0400 Subject: Re: [PDF] CGI script info Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Yes, you can check the site www.x-streem.com where they have pdf form solutions. Tino _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 29-Jun-1999 9:37:09-GMT,4032;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA10696 for ; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 03:37:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA15116; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 04:30:37 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 29 Jun 1999 04:28:30 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA14963; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 04:28:27 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990629100153.00c2bb20@mailhost.cam.harlequin.co.uk> X-Sender: martinb@mailhost.cam.harlequin.co.uk X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 10:01:53 +0100 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com, Sue Campbell From: Martin Bailey Subject: Re: [PDF] TIFF CORRUPTION Cc: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com In-Reply-To: <199906282214.PAA36010@mail.inficad.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ At 15:14 28/06/99 -0700, Rich Sprague wrote: >She has a single page, grayscale doc with four images...two tiffs and two >eps. The file was created in Pagemaker 6.5.2 on the Mac. This was a sample >created for me at my request, but the problem is consistent when she uses >grayscale tiffs in a PDF file. >While I do not have the imposition software, I did use PitStop to check the >files. PitStop would not recognize the two tiff files in the Acrobat 4x >files...any of them. Sometimes it choked and wouldn't do it's pre-flight >routine. If it didn't choke, then it gave an error on the two tiff images >saying there are form objects in the document. I don't know what these are >and can't find a reference to them anywhere...in the manuals or on Enfocus's >or Adobe's web site. This may be related to the way that Distiller 4 handles files that include both OPI 1.3 and OPI 2 comments, like those from PageMaker. You end up with the Contents stream refering to a Form XObject (see the PDF spec for Form XObjects) which includes a reference to an OPI 1.3 object. The Form stream refers to another Form XObject which includes a reference to an OPI 2 object. That Form stream refers to an Image XObject with the actual image data in it (and no OPI objects. It wouldn't particularily surprise me if that hierarchy confused software that wasn't written to handle it. Are your versions of Preps or PressWise supposed to handle PDF 1.3? If they are only written for PDF 1.2 then you may need to upgrade. If you're working with PostScript exported from Acrobat 4 and using OPI replacement in Preps then things might get upset by a bug in the code that generates OPI 2 instructions and comments. If you're not using OPI further downstream then you may be able to fix your problem by telling Distiller not to act on OPI comments. Regards Martin Bailey ---------------------------------------------------------- Digital Print & Publishing Harlequin Ltd martinb@harlequin.com http://www.harlequin.com ---------------------------------------------------------- I try to ensure that my views expressed here accord with my employers, but I am not a spokesman for Harlequin and the buck stops with me for what I say here ---------------------------------------------------------- _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 29-Jun-1999 11:00:37-GMT,4977;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA12382 for ; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 05:00:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA18908; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 05:54:44 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 29 Jun 1999 05:52:19 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA18800; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 05:52:18 -0500 Message-Id: <199906291052.DAA75696@mail.inficad.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 03:52:12 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] TIFF CORRUPTION From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com CC: suec@tshore.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Bingo! Man, am I impressed. I just took the PS file and distilled the darn thing, turning off Preserve OPI Comments. Guess what? I now have a PDF file in which PitStop says has four grayscale images, instead of two. And, I can select all four images, wherein before, the tiffs had a lock on them. Now, I don't know if this solves Sue's problem. She may still need to upgrade her imposition software. However, I am sending her a *new* PDF for her to test. But at least I have a file, that on the surface, appears to work correctly. Wherein, before, I knew that this PDF file was sort of off kilter. Thank you, Martin. The drums are rolling, and you can take a bow now. Rich P.S. For me, the teacher is making me stay after school to study up on Form XObjects. It's too nice of day. > At 15:14 28/06/99 -0700, Rich Sprague wrote: >>She has a single page, grayscale doc with four images...two tiffs and two >>eps. The file was created in Pagemaker 6.5.2 on the Mac. This was a sample >>created for me at my request, but the problem is consistent when she uses >>grayscale tiffs in a PDF file. > >>While I do not have the imposition software, I did use PitStop to check the >>files. PitStop would not recognize the two tiff files in the Acrobat 4x >>files...any of them. Sometimes it choked and wouldn't do it's pre-flight >>routine. If it didn't choke, then it gave an error on the two tiff images >>saying there are form objects in the document. I don't know what these are >>and can't find a reference to them anywhere...in the manuals or on Enfocus's >>or Adobe's web site. > > This may be related to the way that Distiller 4 handles files that include > both OPI 1.3 and OPI 2 comments, like those from PageMaker. > > You end up with the Contents stream refering to a Form XObject (see the PDF > spec for Form XObjects) which includes a reference to an OPI 1.3 object. > The Form stream refers to another Form XObject which includes a reference > to an OPI 2 object. That Form stream refers to an Image XObject with the > actual image data in it (and no OPI objects. > > It wouldn't particularily surprise me if that hierarchy confused software > that wasn't written to handle it. > > Are your versions of Preps or PressWise supposed to handle PDF 1.3? If they > are only written for PDF 1.2 then you may need to upgrade. > > If you're working with PostScript exported from Acrobat 4 and using OPI > replacement in Preps then things might get upset by a bug in the code that > generates OPI 2 instructions and comments. > > If you're not using OPI further downstream then you may be able to fix your > problem by telling Distiller not to act on OPI comments. > > > > Regards > > Martin Bailey > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > Digital Print & Publishing Harlequin Ltd > martinb@harlequin.com http://www.harlequin.com > ---------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------- Rich Sprague PDF Solutions/Consulting (480) 860-0050 Print Management & Production richsprague@inficad.com 4-Color Digital Printing http://www.inficad.com/~richsprague Sheetfed & Web Printing *38* years experience ---------------------------------------------------------------- _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 29-Jun-1999 11:10:01-GMT,2602;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA12578 for ; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 05:10:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA19780; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 06:09:24 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 29 Jun 1999 06:08:15 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA19704; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 06:08:09 -0500 Message-Id: <199906291108.EAA76932@mail.inficad.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 04:08:09 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF to DocuTech From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Please e-mail me a copy of the PDF and I'll take a look. > We are having problems getting shades of gray to print on the DocuTech. The > file was created in Word and distilled using Acrobat 3.0. The shades of gray > appear on the screen, but when made into a post-script to be sent to the > DocuTech they disappear. We tried making a .prn straight from Word and that > seems to work fine. Due to page numbering and combining mutiple files, we > need to use PDF. What we have are text boxes with gray shading behind the > text. The text shows up but the shading does not. > > TIA, > David Rich ---------------------------------------------------------------- Rich Sprague PDF Solutions/Consulting (480) 860-0050 Print Management & Production richsprague@inficad.com 4-Color Digital Printing http://www.inficad.com/~richsprague Sheetfed & Web Printing *38* years experience ---------------------------------------------------------------- _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 29-Jun-1999 11:46:17-GMT,1735;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA13353 for ; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 05:46:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA21150; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 06:40:16 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 29 Jun 1999 06:38:56 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA21031; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 06:38:55 -0500 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 12:36:00 +0100 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: ron Subject: [PDF] Acrobat Application error. MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 4.02 M Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ When I close a pdf document in exchange I am getting a message This instruction at Ox029232eb referenced memory at OxOOOOOOb. The memory could not be read. Click OK to terminate - it has already closed. Any ideas what this means -- regards Ron _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 29-Jun-1999 13:28:06-GMT,2311;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA15694 for ; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 07:28:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA27747; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 08:23:11 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 29 Jun 1999 08:20:40 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA27458; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 08:20:38 -0500 Message-ID: <005f01bec243$d28e4890$c0c0c0c0@dirk> From: "dirk pauwels" To: References: <199906291052.DAA75696@mail.inficad.com> Subject: [PDF] Quicktime in PDF in Browser Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 17:26:54 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ When I insert a QT movie in a PDF page, it runs fine in de standalone reader, even if I move the files around (so the reference to the files is relative). But when opening the PDF in a browser, the movie cannot be found, and the user has to track the movie manually. We have to run the files from a CD, so using URI's won't help us. Anyone out there with bright ideas? Thanks, Met vriendelijke groeten, dirk pauwels grafisch vormgever VDAB Productontwikkeling Afdeling Kenniscentra tel: ++32 (0)14 44 51 99 fax: ++32 (0)14 44 51 81 dpauwels@skynet.be (dpauwels@vdab.be) http://www.vdab.be _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 29-Jun-1999 16:40:09-GMT,2219;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA21243 for ; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 10:40:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA08861; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 11:25:33 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 29 Jun 1999 11:22:32 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA08653; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 11:22:31 -0500 From: "Mark Stephenson" To: Subject: [PDF] Acrocat commandline parameters Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 12:24:54 -0500 Message-ID: <001b01bec254$4de99e30$6b79a8cc@pc-stephenson.syrres.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <199906290928.EAA14982@everglades.binc.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi - Does anyone happen to know what commandline parameters are available for running Catalog on the PC. I found documentation which says you can build an index from the commandline (which is what I'm interested in) with 'acrocat /b ' but it doesn't work. Acrocat interprets '/b ' as the name of an indexfile which I want it to open (but which of course, doesn't exist). Any help appreciated .. Mark _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 29-Jun-1999 16:55:30-GMT,2548;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA21707 for ; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 10:55:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA12423; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 11:54:41 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 29 Jun 1999 11:53:24 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA12205; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 11:53:17 -0500 From: kafer@mindspring.com Message-Id: <3.0.6.16.19990629094134.2cef90aa@mail.mindspring.com> X-Sender: kafer@mail.mindspring.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (16) Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 09:41:34 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Active Field of Fill-in PDF Form Will Not Print Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Active fields of fill-in form will not print filled-in text. Using Acr Exchange 3.01 on 486DX40, 20meg RAM, and WFW Win 3.11. Printers are HP Deskjet 520 with both original and latest updated drivers (color smart), and OPkiData 6e LED laser with basic and high performance windows drivers and PCL emulation drivers. Forms and Acro Exchange are from IRS CD-ROM. I have tried all the procedures: click outside active are so Acro Exchange can "register" the text in the filled-in active fields, and saved. I have uninstalled Acro Exchange, edited registry to delete all references to Acro Exch, deleted registry data (reg.dat), edited out all references to Acro Exch from win.ini and system.ini, deleted all remnants of Acro Exch files from harddrive, rebooted and defragged, reinstalled Win 3.11, rebooted and defragged, reinatalled Acro Exchange 3.01 from CD-ROM. Still can't print active fields. Anyone have the solution?? Thanks in advance. Frank. _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 29-Jun-1999 17:19:26-GMT,2158;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA22503 for ; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 11:19:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA14815; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 12:17:39 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 29 Jun 1999 12:16:25 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA14704; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 12:16:24 -0500 Message-ID: <008701bec252$fc3e4a00$4c01a8c0@privatei.privatei.com> From: "Rick Land" To: Subject: [PDF] Fill form fields in PDF file programmatically Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 11:15:28 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I would like to write a program in Visual Basic (VB) that would allow me to get data from a user and then insert the data into form fields in a PDF file (that is, the VB program would insert the data into the fields). The user of the VB program would not be expected to have Acrobat loaded on his/her machine; rather, he/she would have the VB program, the PDF file containing the fields, and (if necessary) Acrobat Reader. Does anyone know how I might do this? _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 29-Jun-1999 17:28:08-GMT,2409;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA22741 for ; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 11:28:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA15490; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 12:27:20 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 29 Jun 1999 12:25:37 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA15322; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 12:25:36 -0500 Message-Id: <199906291725.KAA40824@mail.inficad.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 10:25:32 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] 4.0 with search From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ According to our friends who run this list, it should be available by mid-July. Check back on their website for up-to-the-minute information, as this missing feature has kept some Acrophobiacs from upgrading to 4x. http://www.pdfzone.com > Does anybody know when the 4.0 reader w/search will be available for Mac & > Windows? > > Thanks in advance. > > Michael > Pinehurst Technologies, Inc. Rich ---------------------------------------------------------------- Rich Sprague PDF Solutions/Consulting (480) 860-0050 Print Management & Production richsprague@inficad.com 4-Color Digital Printing http://www.inficad.com/~richsprague Sheetfed & Web Printing *38* years experience ---------------------------------------------------------------- _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 29-Jun-1999 17:31:25-GMT,1944;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA22846 for ; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 11:31:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA15773; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 12:30:35 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 29 Jun 1999 12:29:18 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA15633; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 12:29:17 -0500 Message-Id: <99Jun29.134122edt.115594@gateway.lrp.com> From: Donna Meyer To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Re: Acrobat Forms Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 13:29:55 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Can anyone tell me what I need to include on a CD-ROM with Reader to enable the end-user the ability fill in forms that were created in Version 3.0. I was going to distribute Reader/Search version 3.1. Is there a plug-in that needs to accompany this version or is it included? I can't distribute Acrobat 4.0 reader because I'm not sure if they were created with backward compatibility. Thanks, Donna Meyer Software Developer LRP Publications, Inc. _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 29-Jun-1999 17:42:58-GMT,2655;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA23235 for ; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 11:42:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA16276; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 12:36:08 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 29 Jun 1999 12:35:00 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA16137; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 12:34:59 -0500 Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 10:34:55 -0700 (PDT) From: George Johnson To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Fill form fields in PDF file programmatically In-Reply-To: <008701bec252$fc3e4a00$4c01a8c0@privatei.privatei.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > I would like to write a program in Visual Basic (VB) that would allow me to > get data from a user and then insert the data into form fields in a PDF file > (that is, the VB program would insert the data into the fields). The user > of the VB program would not be expected to have Acrobat loaded on his/her > machine; rather, he/she would have the VB program, the PDF file containing > the fields, and (if necessary) Acrobat Reader. Does anyone know how I might > do this? You can use the ActiveX version of the FDF Toolkit to created and FDF (Forms Data Format) file, and programmatically launch Reader using VB's "Shell" function or the Windows API "ShellExecute" function, passing it the FDF file you just created. The corresponding PDF form will load and the form fields will populate with the data in the FDF file. For more information on the FDF Toolkit, see: http://www.adobe.com/prodindex/acorbat/formsresources.html Also, check out: http://www.codecuts.com If you would like a small example in VB, let me know off-list (only). _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 29-Jun-1999 18:30:58-GMT,2180;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA24632 for ; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 12:30:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA19911; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 13:25:55 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 29 Jun 1999 13:24:23 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA19771; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 13:24:21 -0500 Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 20:24:02 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Nicolas Balbo Subject: [PDF] [MAC, PDF, QXP] how to change default page size ? Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hello, When I make pdf from QuarkXpress, I set the printer driver to "Acrobat" and it always proposes a default page width about 203 mm ("US letter" format ?). Generally, I need the pdf file to have a 210 mm page width (A4 standard). So I have to change "manually" the pre-setted default page width. Does anybody know how to change this default page size by modifying Acrobat printer description file ? (a pretty game for PostScript code fans, I guess...) TIA Nicolas Nicolas BALBO AGIS sarl : 12 rue Calmels, 75018 Paris, France Tel : 33 (0)1 42 57 14 31 Fax : 33 (0)1 42 57 02 77 ISDN : 33 (0)1 42 57 11 00 Age quod agis _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 29-Jun-1999 18:51:43-GMT,2703;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA25238 for ; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 12:51:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA21828; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 13:46:03 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 29 Jun 1999 13:44:07 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA21607; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 13:44:05 -0500 X-Sender: prodok@pop.eunet.ch Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <99Jun29.134122edt.115594@gateway.lrp.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 20:44:09 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Max Wyss Subject: Re: [PDF] Re: Acrobat Forms Cc: Donna Meyer Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Donna, there are no problems concerning the Forms feature which are not understood by Acrobat 4 when reading Acrobat 3 documents. The other way, there are a few new JavaScript commands, and they would cause problems. So, you may easily go ahead and include Reader 4 (with all its advantages). If Search is an issue, you would have to wait a few more days until the Search plug-in becomes available. Hope, this can help. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch WWW: http://www.prodok.ch/prodok [ Bridging the Knowledge Gap ] ______________________ >Can anyone tell me what I need to include on a CD-ROM with Reader to enable >the end-user the ability fill in forms that were created in Version 3.0. I >was going to distribute Reader/Search version 3.1. Is there a plug-in that >needs to accompany this version or is it included? I can't distribute >Acrobat 4.0 reader because I'm not sure if they were created with backward >compatibility. > >Thanks, >Donna Meyer _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 29-Jun-1999 19:12:42-GMT,3738;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA25857 for ; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 13:12:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA22167; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 13:49:31 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 29 Jun 1999 13:48:24 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA22089; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 13:48:23 -0500 Message-Id: <199906291848.NAA22081@everglades.binc.net> Date: 29 Jun 99 14:48:21 -0400 From: Roberta Pavol Subject: RE: [PDF] [MAC, PDF, QXP] how to change default page size ? To: pdf X-Mailer: QuickMail Pro 1.5.3 (Mac) X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-Ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id NAA22085 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Reply to: RE: [PDF] [MAC, PDF, QXP] how to change default page size ? Instead of trying to edit the print description file, if you are using Quark 4, you can set a print style (under Edit>Print Styles) that has the A4 page size -- or other custom print sizes you use regularly, and your other print setup settings such as printer description - Acrobat Distiller, page size, etc. Then select that print style in your Print style drop down box on your Print screen. If you're doing many files this is helpful since you just select a print style and don't have to change all the settings. I have been using Quark 4 for awhile now, and although Quark 3 does let you setup print style, people working with me who tried to set up print styles for postscripting said that it didn't change to the settings they wanted so it may not work correctly in Quark 3. Someone working in Quark 3 may be able to shed light on that. Roberta Nicolas Balbo wrote: > >The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ >__________________________________________________________________ > >Hello, > >When I make pdf from QuarkXpress, I set the printer driver to "Acrobat" and >it always proposes a default page width about 203 mm ("US letter" format ?). > >Generally, I need the pdf file to have a 210 mm page width (A4 standard). >So I have to change "manually" the pre-setted default page width. > >Does anybody know how to change this default page size by modifying Acrobat >printer description file ? (a pretty game for PostScript code fans, I >guess...) > >TIA > >Nicolas > > > > > > >Nicolas BALBO > >AGIS sarl : 12 rue Calmels, 75018 Paris, France >Tel : 33 (0)1 42 57 14 31 >Fax : 33 (0)1 42 57 02 77 >ISDN : 33 (0)1 42 57 11 00 > >Age quod agis > > > > >_ >____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ ><- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> > <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> >___________________________________________________________ _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 29-Jun-1999 20:59:58-GMT,1881;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA29097 for ; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 14:59:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA31597; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 15:53:33 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 29 Jun 1999 15:51:36 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA31457; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 15:51:34 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.5 Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 16:50:11 -0400 From: "Jeff Sauber" To: Subject: [PDF] Tiling output Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id PAA31453 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ This ought to be an elementary question, but no one can seem to answer it: How do you get Acrobat 3xx to print a tiled output from a PDF document? Ie: printing a 20x30" document at 100% to an 11x17" printer. Thanks in advance, Jeff Sauber _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 29-Jun-1999 21:00:44-GMT,2039;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA29131 for ; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 15:00:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA32175; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 16:00:03 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 29 Jun 1999 15:58:56 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA32026; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 15:58:54 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: kfoss@mailbag.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <001a01bec22f$1e45e0a0$1373f7a5@nec> References: <001a01bec22f$1e45e0a0$1373f7a5@nec> Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 15:57:58 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Kurt Foss Subject: Re: [PDF] 4.0 with search Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >Does anybody know when the 4.0 reader w/search will be available for Mac & >Windows? As mentioned previously, this was answered in a post from Adobe's Sarah Rosenbaum recently. Her message remains available in the searchable & browseable PDF list archives at: http://www.pdfzone.org/cgi-bin/wilma.cgi/pdf The specific message can be found at: http://www.pdfzone.org/resources/lists/pdf/199905/msg00483.html rgds ~ Kurt _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 29-Jun-1999 21:42:45-GMT,2078;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA00579 for ; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 15:42:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA02384; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 16:41:18 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 29 Jun 1999 16:40:08 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA02289; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 16:40:03 -0500 Message-Id: <199906292139.OAA01812@dodo.prod.itd.earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 14:39:38 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Tiling output From: "C. Scott Miller" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > How do you get Acrobat 3xx to print a tiled output from a PDF document? Ie: > printing a 20x30" document at 100% to an 11x17" printer. If you have QuarkXPress you could export the PDF file as EPS using Exchange and then import the EPS into XPress. It is easy to tile files using XPress' auto tiling feature. -- HTH, C. Scott Miller PDF R_e_s_e_a_r_c_h__C_o_m_p_a_n_i_o_n A Designer's Guide to Adobe's Portable Document Format http://www.performancegraphics.com _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 29-Jun-1999 22:35:37-GMT,1897;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA02102 for ; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 16:35:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA05163; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 17:26:55 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 29 Jun 1999 17:24:58 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA05041; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 17:24:57 -0500 Message-Id: <199906292228.RAA04246@gate.mcdermott.com> From: "Wynne, Graham " To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Linking from MS Word document to named location in PDF file Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 11:34:00 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Does anyone know if there a way to describe the "Named location" in a Word hyperlink to allow linking to a particular book mark or location in a pdf file? Word can not "See" bookmarks in PDF so we can not pick them up by browsing. We are using acrobat 4.0. Thanks Graham Wynne _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 30-Jun-1999 0:15:42-GMT,2958;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA04765 for ; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 18:15:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA11202; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 19:12:42 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 29 Jun 1999 19:10:05 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA11019; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 19:10:01 -0500 Message-Id: <199906300009.RAA30891@mail.inficad.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 17:09:57 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] [MAC, PDF, QXP] how to change default page size ? From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Using QuarkXPress 4x plus Acrobat 4x, you determine the *exact* size you want the page to be in FILE > PRINT > SETUP. There is a document that tells you how to do this on the main page of my web site (at least for the next day or two), then it will be on the PDF Resource page. You may download this *PDF* file and hopefully it will answer your questions. If not, feel free to e-mail me directly. > When I make pdf from QuarkXpress, I set the printer driver to "Acrobat" and > it always proposes a default page width about 203 mm ("US letter" format ?). > > Generally, I need the pdf file to have a 210 mm page width (A4 standard). > So I have to change "manually" the pre-setted default page width. > > Does anybody know how to change this default page size by modifying Acrobat > printer description file ? (a pretty game for PostScript code fans, I > guess...) > > Nicolas BALBO Rich ---------------------------------------------------------------- Rich Sprague PDF Solutions/Consulting (480) 860-0050 Print Management & Production richsprague@inficad.com 4-Color Digital Printing http://www.inficad.com/~richsprague Sheetfed & Web Printing *38* years experience ---------------------------------------------------------------- _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 30-Jun-1999 11:55:06-GMT,1786;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA21227 for ; Wed, 30 Jun 1999 05:55:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA12525; Wed, 30 Jun 1999 06:49:29 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 30 Jun 1999 06:41:07 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA11889; Wed, 30 Jun 1999 06:41:03 -0500 From: "Eldad" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 07:45:31 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: [PDF] Color Seperations X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.11) Message-Id: <19990630114052.KRJL973@eldad> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Is there an easy way to print color seperations from Acrobat 4.0? How do I do it if the original file is a color Pagemaker file? Do I have to print each color seperatly to an individual page in Acrobat? Please advise. Thank You, Matthew Scott _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 30-Jun-1999 12:21:47-GMT,2715;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA21849 for ; Wed, 30 Jun 1999 06:21:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA14420; Wed, 30 Jun 1999 07:17:57 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 30 Jun 1999 07:15:18 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA14242; Wed, 30 Jun 1999 07:15:17 -0500 Message-Id: <199906301215.FAA45202@mail.inficad.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 05:15:03 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Color Seperations From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Acrobat, by itself, has no capability to output anything other than composite prints. You need a plug-in like Crackerjack http://www.lantanarips.com or Output Pro http://www.callas.de which will allow separated output (spot or process). You can pre-separate the PS file, and create a 4-page Acrobat doc (1 page for each color). However, this sort of defeats the purpose of Acrobat. I learned the hard way many moons ago about Acrobat's inability to output separations. > Is there an easy way to print color seperations from Acrobat 4.0? > How do I do it if the original file is a color Pagemaker file? Do I have > to print each color seperatly to an individual page in Acrobat? > Matthew Scott Rich ---------------------------------------------------------------- Rich Sprague PDF Solutions/Consulting (480) 860-0050 Print Management & Production richsprague@inficad.com 4-Color Digital Printing http://www.inficad.com/~richsprague Sheetfed & Web Printing *38* years experience ---------------------------------------------------------------- _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 30-Jun-1999 13:01:59-GMT,2086;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA22749 for ; Wed, 30 Jun 1999 07:01:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA17186; Wed, 30 Jun 1999 07:57:44 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 30 Jun 1999 07:56:07 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA17016; Wed, 30 Jun 1999 07:56:04 -0500 Message-ID: <2E785084EBC0D111999900608C14A50901A109C6@exchangemn2.atk.com> From: "Mera, Jose" To: "'PDF-L'" Subject: [PDF] Extracting/Importing Links Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 07:39:55 -0500 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ A client wants to provide his customers a large document with a set of links and bookmarks. Later on, he wants to add more links and bookmarks, but does not want to re-send out the large PDF file again. Is there a way to extract the links from the master PDF and send the customer an executable that will install these links on the fielded PDFs? Oh yeah, the "customer" will only have Reader. Jose Mera DocMaestro Business Area Manager Alliant Techsystems, Inc. 13133 34th Street N. Clearwater, Florida 33762 Tel: 727/572-2491 E-mail: jose_mera@atk.com Web: http://DocMaestro.atk.com _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 30-Jun-1999 13:09:28-GMT,2276;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA22918 for ; Wed, 30 Jun 1999 07:09:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA18018; Wed, 30 Jun 1999 08:06:24 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 30 Jun 1999 08:05:20 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA17912; Wed, 30 Jun 1999 08:05:19 -0500 Message-ID: <50AFCE9910E9D211982E00608CF26D1E0ABFAC@mail.roundtable.com.au> From: Karl De Abrew To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Extracting/Importing Links Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 23:06:22 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hello Jose, > A client wants to provide his customers a large document with > a set of links > and bookmarks. Later on, he wants to add more links and > bookmarks, but does > not want to re-send out the large PDF file again. Is there a > way to extract > the links from the master PDF and send the customer an > executable that will > install these links on the fielded PDFs? Oh yeah, the > "customer" will only > have Reader. Right - this sounds like a job for a patch utility -- there are many around that will do this, you can even try something like the WiseInstaller (a personal favourite of mine). And this will work with Reader. regards, Karl De Abrew karl@PlanetPDF.com http://www.PlanetPDF.com/ _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 30-Jun-1999 13:24:03-GMT,2418;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA23287 for ; Wed, 30 Jun 1999 07:24:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA19381; Wed, 30 Jun 1999 08:23:11 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 30 Jun 1999 08:22:00 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA19244; Wed, 30 Jun 1999 08:21:59 -0500 Message-ID: <50AFCE9910E9D211982E00608CF26D1E0ABFAF@mail.roundtable.com.au> From: Karl De Abrew To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Extracting/Importing Links Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 23:23:08 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi all, > Right - this sounds like a job for a patch utility -- there are many > around that will do this, you can even try something like the > WiseInstaller (a personal favourite of mine). And this will work with > Reader. Due to popular demand I am going to reply to my own posting and provide the URLs I should have specified in the first place ;) http://www.artistry.com/products/winpatch/ - for WinPatch http://www.WiseInstaller.com/ - for the WiseInstaller (this is more of an InstallShield like program - but it does have "Smart Patching" capabilities). These are both Windows only solutions (obvious for WinPatch but not so for WiseInstaller) - if you're on a Mac then you you'll have to manually transcribe the modified bytes using BBEdit (just kidding, please no flames). regards, Karl De Abrew karl@planetpdf.com http://www.PlanetPDF.com/ _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 30-Jun-1999 15:39:44-GMT,4185;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA27186 for ; Wed, 30 Jun 1999 09:39:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA29469; Wed, 30 Jun 1999 10:31:34 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 30 Jun 1999 10:29:26 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA29255; Wed, 30 Jun 1999 10:29:24 -0500 From: robert.r.richard@hrdc-drhc.gc.ca X-Internal-ID: 3778DCC000003579 Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 9:37:32 -0400 Message-ID: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) To: Cc: Subject: [PDF] Printing Press and PDF. X-Incognito-SN: 1395 X-Incognito-Version: 4.25.361 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ PDFZone, In retrospect to our department publication and the Commercial Printing Press Co., I really would like to have a better appreciation of the different printing process that can be used with pdf format documents. Initially, our text was written with Word97 and graphics prepared with Corel Draw 8 (CMYK), then distilled with Acrobat 4.0. Even though that all of these documents were prepared under Win95/98 platforms, said files were saved on Iomega Zip for Macintosh. Obviously, the printing press needed Mac. First of all, what process did the printing press co. used to print our publication. Once distilled, how is the printing co. able to use the CMYK color separation? I am sure that they did not have any of the plug-in's as mentioned in Rich Sprague last message to pdfzone: Crackerjack and Output Pro. Was there a benefit for us using CMYK and pdf? Furthermore, to my knowledge, distiller has a setting for Printing Press jobs. What effect has this setting for printers. To my fear, I suspect that they probably opened our pdf files into Adobe PageMaker or Quark Express, then prepared our documents for printing. Please take note that my knowledge of PageMaker and Quark Express is extremely limited. Rich Sprague wrote----------- "...Acrobat, by itself, has no capability to output anything other than composite prints..." What is composite printing? Secondly, what is Acrobat real purpose? Rich Sprague------------ "...You can pre-separate the PS file, and create a 4-page Acrobat doc (1 page for each color). However, this sort of defeats the purpose of Acrobat..." On my side, I thought that I knew the real purpose of Acrobat, but when it gets to the Printing Press co., I really dont know if it really served its purpose. For example, if they did use PageMaker or Quark Express to output our work, would this have resulted in modifications to our original editing and format. Can PageMaker and Express open pdf type files? Can Printing Press co. use Acrobat to output directly to their presses? Would this not be the ideal situation? I have not yet found any web sites or publications with such specific information, did you? Thirdly, I am looking to learn more on the use of CMYK, RGB and pantone colors in Printing Press output and their use in the same context as above. Any references to publications or web sites would be appreciated. In conclusion, I dont expect to have detail replies to my query. An appreciation of said processes would be greatly accepted. Thanks in advance for help. Robert Richard. _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 30-Jun-1999 16:47:19-GMT,7974;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA29740 for ; Wed, 30 Jun 1999 10:47:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA03961; Wed, 30 Jun 1999 11:40:22 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 30 Jun 1999 11:38:10 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA03718; Wed, 30 Jun 1999 11:38:06 -0500 Message-Id: <199906301638.JAA93090@mail.inficad.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 09:37:59 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Printing Press and PDF. From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Good morning, Robert: > In retrospect to our department publication and the Commercial Printing > Press Co., I really would like to have a better appreciation of the > different printing process that can be used with pdf format documents. You are asking us a question we can't answer. We don't know what equipment, or processes, the Commercial Printing Press has or uses. My guess is that it would be offset printing equipment (using 4 printing plates - 1 for each of the 4 colors (CMYK)). However, they could also have high-speed color laser printers, digital imaging equipment, or a Heidelberg DI offset press, where the file is imaged on plastic plates attached to the cylinders. Distilling does not provide CMYK color separations. Distilling creates a *composite* document, or file, which then needs to go through further processing at the print shop. In the case of offset, they would need to open the file in Acrobat 4x or Exchange 3x, and rip the file through an imagesetter. Some imagesetters, such as the Agfa Apogee, have rips which will separate the file without plug-ins. One they have the four pieces of film required for each page of your doc, they then would make plates to use on their press. If they are, in fact, using offset (or some of the other methods) to print they don't have a choice but to use CMYK to produce 4-color (process) printing. The neat thing about PDF is that you send one, extremely compact, cross-platform compatible file to your printing company. It can easily be transported electronically. The other option is to send your Word doc and all the linked graphics. Then there is the infamous issue about fonts. > First of all, what process did the printing press co. used to print our > publication. Once distilled, how is the printing co. able to use the CMYK > color separation? I am sure that they did not have any of the plug-in's as > mentioned in Rich Sprague last message to pdfzone: Crackerjack and Output > Pro. Was there a benefit for us using CMYK and pdf? There are three default settings in Distiller 4x: Screen (for web downloads and simple office printing), Print (for high-speed laser printers) and Press (for offset printing). The Screen Optimization is the lowest resolution setting, allowing for the smallest files. On the opposite end is Press, which allows 150-175 line high-quality printing. The files for Press are considerably larger than for Screen, but way smaller than if you added up the total bytes or mb of all the original files. > Furthermore, to my knowledge, distiller has a setting for Printing Press > jobs. What effect has this setting for printers. To my fear, I suspect that > they probably opened our pdf files into Adobe PageMaker or Quark Express, > then prepared our documents for printing. Please take note that my > knowledge of PageMaker and Quark Express is extremely limited. There are dozens, if not 100s of uses for Acrobat. Here is some information from Adobe's web site. Should you want more complete information, you should go to: http://www.adobe.com. ***The essential tool for universal document exchange Tired of colleagues not being able to open your documents? Frustrated by software and platform incompatibilities that destroy your documents' look and feel? You need Adobe(R) Acrobat(R). It's the most reliable, efficient, and effective way to share information electronically. Acrobat lets you convert any document into an Adobe Portable Document Format (PDF) file, with its original appearance preserved, then distribute it for viewing and printing on any system. Powerful markup tools make electronic review a snap, so your workflow will be easier and more productive than ever before. Discover how you can use Acrobat to make your job easier. Solutions Review and mark up documents electronically Protect document security for worry-free distribution Collect information online with interactive forms Convert Web pages to PDF files for offline use* Streamline publishing workflow from design to production Key Features Convert any document to PDF Mark up and annotate PDF documents Apply security options and digital signatures* to PDF files Create PDF Web forms Integrate PDF files with Web servers and e-mail Do late-stage text and image editing on PDF files Reuse text, graphics, and table data from PDF files Retain and print sophisticated PostScript 3 graphics > Secondly, what is Acrobat real purpose? You can't open, edit or modify a PDF file in Quark or Pagemaker...you can place a PDF file within those application's documents. Nor will you be able to open a PDF in Adobe's new page layout application InDesign. Due to limitations of PostScript Level 2, you can place (not open) a PDF in Quark, but you can't print separations. I don't know whether Pagemaker can separate a placed PDF, but InDesign is supposed to be able to. If one has a digital imaging press, in most cases the PDF file can be output directly to the press. Digital presses are fairly new, and are most economical for fairly short runs. Acrobat is a good application no matter which press or method is being used to print a project, what the size of the publication is, or what the length of the run is. It should be said, however, than not all vendors or creators have totally embraced Acrobat as of yet. > On my side, I thought that I knew the real purpose of Acrobat, but when it > gets to the Printing Press co., I really dont know if it really served its > purpose. For example, if they did use PageMaker or Quark Express to output > our work, would this have resulted in modifications to our original editing > and format. Can PageMaker and Express open pdf type files? Can Printing > Press co. use Acrobat to output directly to their presses? Would this not > be the ideal situation? I have not yet found any web sites or publications > with such specific information, did you? > Robert Richard. Hope this answers some more of your questions. Rich ---------------------------------------------------------------- Rich Sprague PDF Solutions/Consulting (480) 860-0050 Print Management & Production richsprague@inficad.com 4-Color Digital Printing http://www.inficad.com/~richsprague Sheetfed & Web Printing *38* years experience ---------------------------------------------------------------- _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 30-Jun-1999 16:47:19-GMT,1904;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA29739 for ; Wed, 30 Jun 1999 10:47:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA04296; Wed, 30 Jun 1999 11:43:17 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 30 Jun 1999 11:41:54 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA04121; Wed, 30 Jun 1999 11:41:53 -0500 Message-ID: <42C2689CF21ED311BE3600A0C9B3BB8E0FE7F7@mail-nt-3.dcs-stl.com> From: "Manson, Al" To: "'PDF Zone'" Subject: [PDF] create a thumbnail Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 11:43:19 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Does anyone out there know of a way to create a thumbnail or a preview of a PDF? We would like to be able to create a thumbnail that our Asset Management databases would be able to use. That way, when a customer is browsing their search results, they have a preview of the document. Thanks in advance. Al Manson amanson@dcspremedia.com _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 30-Jun-1999 23:28:41-GMT,1843;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA11692 for ; Wed, 30 Jun 1999 17:28:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA07265; Wed, 30 Jun 1999 18:26:37 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 30 Jun 1999 18:24:28 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA07119; Wed, 30 Jun 1999 18:24:25 -0500 Subject: [PDF] Plug IN to Measure/Ruler? Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 16:23:46 -0000 x-sender: cballmer@mail.marketmedia.com x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: cballmer@marketmedia.com (Chris Ballmer) To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-ID: <19990630232344365.AAA197@host12.mkmedia.sysci.org> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Does anyone know of a Freeware Ruler Plugin for Acrobat 4? Chris Ballmer Graphics Manager Market Place Media 805 968 8007 ex.101 www.marketmedia.com *He is no fool who gives up that which he cannot keep, to gain that which he cannot lose. - Jim Elliot* _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 1-Jul-1999 0:19:52-GMT,2128;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA13038 for ; Wed, 30 Jun 1999 18:19:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA11455; Wed, 30 Jun 1999 19:18:35 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 30 Jun 1999 19:17:12 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA11287; Wed, 30 Jun 1999 19:17:01 -0500 Message-ID: <50AFCE9910E9D211982E00608CF26D1E0ABFD6@mail.roundtable.com.au> From: Karl De Abrew To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] create a thumbnail Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 10:17:51 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi Al, > Does anyone out there know of a way to create a thumbnail or > a preview of a > PDF? This very same question just came up on Acrobat Talk. Here's my response... You could consider utilising Gemini and then resizing the JPEGs/GIFs produced in batch. See http://www.planetpdf.com/mainpage.asp?WebPageID=353 for our review, and to download a demonstration version. Adobe Document Server also offers this functionality -- you can see this at http://www.planetpdf.com/mainpage.asp?webpageid=347 regards, Karl De Abrew karl@PlanetPDF.com http://www.PlanetPDF.com/ _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 1-Jul-1999 1:23:38-GMT,2812;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA15298 for ; Wed, 30 Jun 1999 19:23:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA15794; Wed, 30 Jun 1999 20:16:42 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 30 Jun 1999 20:14:43 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA15646; Wed, 30 Jun 1999 20:14:42 -0500 Message-ID: <50AFCE9910E9D211982E00608CF26D1E0ABFE6@mail.roundtable.com.au> From: Karl De Abrew To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Graphic as an underlay Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 11:15:51 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi Phil, > this.spawnPageFromTemplate("OfficialRelease", i, true, true); // >************* I have added a parameter here 'true' > > I had indeed tried using the binsert parameter as you've described some time > ago, however it does not seem to work as described in the Acrobat Forms > Javascript Object Specification (or we've both misunderstood what it says). > > If I have binsert as true, the template is overlaid on top of the text (this > also appears to be the default, not false as in the AFJOS). If binsert is > false, the template is inserted n times before the specified page (in this > case described below, page 1). > > Is this a bug in Acrobat 4.0 or am I just missing something? I've been hibernating for the last week or so. I've double checked this and you are absolutely correct. As you say, either we're misreading the help, or the help isn't right and the program is, or the help is right, and the program is wrong (bug). There is the wild case of the help isn't right, the program isn't right and we're not right --- but let's leave this one out and assume that at least something is working. Has anyone else attempted this? BTW, this is new to Acrobat 4.0 JS regards, Karl De Abrew karl@PlanetPDF.com http://www.PlanetPDF.com/ _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 1-Jul-1999 1:28:20-GMT,1923;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA15637 for ; Wed, 30 Jun 1999 19:28:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA16540; Wed, 30 Jun 1999 20:27:20 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 30 Jun 1999 20:26:01 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA16383; Wed, 30 Jun 1999 20:25:59 -0500 Message-ID: <524A333ECC0AD3119FC300805F851389534E86@perm02.woodside.com.au> From: "Wraight, David D." To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Plug IN to Measure/Ruler? Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 09:27:32 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Take a look at Dionis http://www.dionis.com/tb/pdf.html They have a Ruler product there. Which is very useful indeed. It's not free - but very close! it's $29US .. Well worth the investment. Anyway, I hope this helps. Dave........ ------------------------- > Does anyone know of a Freeware Ruler Plugin for Acrobat 4? > > Chris Ballmer > _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 1-Jul-1999 2:37:44-GMT,1792;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA18064 for ; Wed, 30 Jun 1999 20:37:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA31569; Wed, 30 Jun 1999 21:32:33 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 30 Jun 1999 21:30:46 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA30932; Wed, 30 Jun 1999 21:30:42 -0500 Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 19:30:37 -0700 (PDT) From: George Johnson To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Plug IN to Measure/Ruler? In-Reply-To: <524A333ECC0AD3119FC300805F851389534E86@perm02.woodside.com.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > ------------------------- > Does anyone know of a Freeware Ruler Plugin for Acrobat 4? > > Chris Ballmer Check out Enfocus Measure at http://www.enfocus.com _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________