16-Jul-1999 7:16:25-GMT,1953;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA11221 for ; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 01:16:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA08985; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 02:12:35 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 16 Jul 1999 02:10:36 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA08848; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 02:10:34 -0500 Message-ID: <218F91C3431ED311A22300104B6EE8E7981C@imtf_vi_nt03.Wien.Materna.DE> From: Petr Fexa To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] What's the page count maximum? Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 09:07:50 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Does anybody know, what the maximum page count in a PDF file is limited by? I have a large PDF file which I cannot open. Both Reader and Exchange say '... contains too many pages'. How can I tell if the file is really too large or if it is simply corrupt in some way? I estimate that it has 10.000 pages or more but is this really beyond the limits? Thanks petr.fexa@wien.materna.de _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 16-Jul-1999 9:52:38-GMT,1982;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA14723 for ; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 03:52:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA18832; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 04:48:47 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 16 Jul 1999 04:45:53 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA18619; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 04:45:50 -0500 Message-ID: <218F91C3431ED311A22300104B6EE8E7981D@imtf_vi_nt03.Wien.Materna.DE> From: Petr Fexa To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] What's the page count maximum? Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 11:36:13 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > Does anybody know, what the maximum page count in a PDF file is limited > by? > I have a large PDF file which I cannot open. Both Reader and Exchange say > '... contains too many pages'. > How can I tell if the file is really too large or if it is simply corrupt > in some way? > I estimate that it has 10.000 pages or more but is this really beyond the > limits? > > Thanks > > petr.fexa@wien.materna.de > > _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 16-Jul-1999 11:42:36-GMT,2546;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA17088 for ; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 05:42:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA26442; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 06:38:26 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 16 Jul 1999 06:35:35 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA26172; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 06:35:34 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: sjveloff@mailbag.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <218F91C3431ED311A22300104B6EE8E7981C@imtf_vi_nt03.Wien.Materna.DE> References: <218F91C3431ED311A22300104B6EE8E7981C@imtf_vi_nt03.Wien.Materna.DE> Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 06:35:46 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Veloff Subject: Re: [PDF] What's the page count maximum? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >Does anybody know, what the maximum page count in a PDF file is limited by? >I have a large PDF file which I cannot open. Both Reader and Exchange say >'... contains too many pages'. >How can I tell if the file is really too large or if it is simply corrupt in >some way? >I estimate that it has 10.000 pages or more but is this really beyond the >limits? There really isn't any limit on the number of pages as far as the PDF Spec says. Some of the basic limitations are highlighted on the page with a link to the PDF Spec if you need more information. You might want to try something like FlightCheck which will check your documents for common errors Steve Veloff sjveloff@pdfzone.com PDFzone.com Web Development _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 16-Jul-1999 13:10:44-GMT,4324;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA19029 for ; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 07:10:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA01086; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 08:05:50 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 16 Jul 1999 08:01:08 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA00608; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 08:01:04 -0500 From: "Scott Hamlow" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Reader 3.02 File Not On Adobe's Web Site Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 06:00:30 -0700 Message-ID: <000201becf8b$30e26620$45a2fecc@scotth.fourgen.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2232.26 In-Reply-To: <2.2.32.19990715201039.0097f800@env-sol.com> X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Tom, Using the following procedures, you can create your own 3.02+Search installable to distribute. Installation Prerequisites: =========================== - Must have Reader 3.02 installer (AR302.EXE) available from Adobe.com. - Must have Reader 3.0/3.01 with Search non self-extracting installation set (from Reader CD, D:\ACROREAD\WIN\RDR_SRCH\32BIT). - Windows Temp directory is C:\WINDOWS\TEMP. You should clean this directory out before starting the installation. Installation Directions ======================= 1. Exit all programs except Windows Explorer. 2. Delete all files and folders within C:\WINDOWS\TEMP. 3. Launch AR302.EXE. 4. When you get to the Welcome screen of the setup program, go back to Windows Explorer and go into C:\WINDOWS\TEMP. There should be some new files and a couple of new folders. Look in the folders for the following files (mine were in a folder called ~EXB0000): _INST32I.EX_ _ISDEL.EXE _SETUP.DLL _SETUP.LIB ABCPYDOC.INI ARCHIVE.Z README.WRI SETUP.EXE SETUP.INS SETUP.PKG 5. Copy these files into another directory on your hard drive. 6. Go back to the Reader 3.02 setup and cancel it. 7. Copy the following files and directories from the Reader 3.0/3.01 with Search non self-extracting installation set: ACROREAD\HELP\ <= Copy entire directory ACROREAD\PLUG_INS\ <= Copy entire directory ACROREAD\ROOT\ <= Copy entire directory ACROREAD\ABCPY.INI 8. Paste these three directories and 1 file into the same directory where you put the Reader 3.02 files in step 4 above. 9. Run SETUP.EXE from the same directory where you put the Reader 3.02 files in step 4 above, installing this new version in a parallel directory to your existing Reader. 10.After installation, run the new Reader 3.02 and verify that the Search buttons are loaded in the toolbar. If it does, you're done. If not, you may have to tweak the ABCPY.INI file. See ABCPYDOC.INI for specifics on modifying this file. > -----Original Message----- > From: Tom Thiersch > re: "You are ill-advised to use 3.01 in preference to 3.02." > > Unless, that is, you need to use Acrobat Reader with Search, which sadly was > never included in any "3.02" packaging :-( > > CD-ROM applications usually benefit greatly from Search capability. > > And since Reader 4.0 with Search still isn't available, I don't see that > there is much choice beyond using 3.01 plus the RA and OCX fixes. > > Tom Thiersch _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 16-Jul-1999 14:04:51-GMT,4648;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA20282 for ; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 08:04:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA06507; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 09:00:58 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 16 Jul 1999 08:58:24 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA06286; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 08:58:23 -0500 Message-ID: <001a01becf93$53d40aa0$068c90c3@paul> From: "Paul Dennis" To: "pdf zone" Subject: [PDF] Reader 4 and Search Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 14:58:35 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0017_01BECF9B.ADAB0760" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01BECF9B.ADAB0760 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have raised this issue before but I think its worth airing again. We = have just distributed 30,000 copies of our latest CD and the majority of = our support calls relate to installing Acrobat 3 where the users has = ended up with multiple copies on the same machine. Believe or not there = are still a lot of users with Acrobat 2 indavertly installed on their = machine. I now fear this is going to get worse when we move to Acrobat 4 = because the current Adobe installer doesn't not remove Acrobat 3. = Further more where 2 copies are installed on the same machine the = uninstaller only seems to work for one of them. This makes it difficult = to distribute plug-ins etc. Is there anyone out there from Adobe who can sort this mess out = otherwise we are going to get a lot of confused users trying to read V4 = files with V3 reader. It must be possible for adobe to come up with a = version of the installer that tidies up the users machine. Paul Dennis Compete Picture London ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01BECF9B.ADAB0760 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I have raised this issue before but I = think its=20 worth airing again.  We have just distributed 30,000 copies of our = latest=20 CD and the majority of our support calls relate to installing = Acrobat 3=20 where the users has ended up with multiple copies on the same machine. = Believe=20 or not there are still a lot of users with Acrobat 2 indavertly = installed on=20 their machine. I now fear this is going to get worse when we move to = Acrobat 4=20 because the current Adobe installer doesn't not remove Acrobat 3.  = Further=20 more where 2 copies are installed on the same machine the uninstaller = only seems=20 to work for one of them. This makes it difficult to distribute plug-ins=20 etc.
 
Is there anyone out there from Adobe = who can sort=20 this mess out otherwise we are going to get a lot of confused users = trying to=20 read V4 files with V3 reader. It must be possible for adobe to come up = with a=20 version of the installer that tidies = up the users=20 machine.
 
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------=_NextPart_000_0017_01BECF9B.ADAB0760-- _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 16-Jul-1999 14:37:29-GMT,4007;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA21128 for ; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 08:37:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA10339; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 09:33:23 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 16 Jul 1999 09:30:16 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA09817; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 09:30:07 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Reader 4 and Search Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 15:29:55 +0100 Message-ID: <002b01becf97$acf4faa0$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <001a01becf93$53d40aa0$068c90c3@paul> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Personally, I find nothing as annoying as installers that do this because I always need the previous version. Internet Explorer is a nightmare in this respect. But I may not be a typical user. Still, I would be badly inconvenienced if what you suggest was implemented. I hope that once Adobe get around to releasing details of how to run Reader from CDROM that most of these issues will vanish. It would certainly be useful to have an installer that provided the option of removing older versions. Adobe take a "clean slate" approach to installers, which is inadequate for the real world (classic example being 3.02, which if installed over 3.01, both with default settings, would lead to errors). Equally valuable would be providing genuine guidance for packagers e.g. - how to check the installed version - how to manage upgrading - how to manage plug-in installation without having to provide a complete new installer - how to manage multiple versions Adobe are severely handicapped by Windows own strictures, but more could certainly be done. It is a support nightmare, but I don't think ignoring it is the right answer. Currently this does reflect badly on those who distribute Reader, and reflects badly on the Adobe name. Aandi P.S. PLEASE don't pot HTML format mail to the list, thanks. -----Original Message----- I have raised this issue before but I think its worth airing again. We have just distributed 30,000 copies of our latest CD and the majority of our support calls relate to installing Acrobat 3 where the users has ended up with multiple copies on the same machine. Believe or not there are still a lot of users with Acrobat 2 indavertly installed on their machine. I now fear this is going to get worse when we move to Acrobat 4 because the current Adobe installer doesn't not remove Acrobat 3. Further more where 2 copies are installed on the same machine the uninstaller only seems to work for one of them. This makes it difficult to distribute plug-ins etc. Is there anyone out there from Adobe who can sort this mess out otherwise we are going to get a lot of confused users trying to read V4 files with V3 reader. It must be possible for adobe to come up with a version of the installer that tidies up the users machine. _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 16-Jul-1999 17:45:34-GMT,4167;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA26425 for ; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 11:45:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA32045; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 12:41:56 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 16 Jul 1999 12:35:33 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA31262; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 12:35:29 -0500 From: robert.r.richard@hrdc-drhc.gc.ca X-Internal-ID: 378F490A000009DD Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 12:49:02 -0400 Message-ID: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) To: Subject: [PDF] PDF vs HTML. X-Incognito-SN: 12871 X-Incognito-Version: 4.25.361 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ PDFZone list, >From October 1998 to April 1999, I have personally transferred all of our telecentre procedures manuals from Word 6.0 to a pdf format. To do this, I had to learn Acrobat 3x. As a result, with Adobe Reader, the 35 telecentre agents now have access to this pdf resources via Banyan network. No more paper manuals updates. A main menu page links all documents, then the table of content links to the different chapters or sections. Plus, on the bottom of each pages, a navigational tool bar helps the agents move up or down, return to main menu, search or get back to the table of content. All documents were formated so that each pages fits the screen and no scrolling is needed. Today, I was shown a preview of the pdf resources that had been put in the zone new intranet web site. What I have seen is my pdf creation put in another format, yes, pure html. I did not see a .pdf, but rather a .htm. My understanding was that they wanted to keep the telecentre pdf resources format in a html environment. First of all, not having all the answers back then, I did not feel that advantages were gained by pdf in html because of size factor and speed. But, changing from pdf to html entirely, is really a swift over my head. Ok, for a fact, our telecentre resources is all text, no graphics. So, what are the real benefits of pdf that html does not have or vice versa, all of this in our telecentre context? It seems that my project was worthless. I do understand that the webmaster will have to update this resource on a daily basis. What else is there in regards to changing from a pdf resources to an html? Currently, with Adobe Reader and pdf on Banyan, 11 docs can stay open in the agents computer memory, consequently speed is no longer a factor for a typical day. In a telecentre, speed is of outmost importance. I really dont see any benefits in regards to access speed when you have an HTML resources in an HTML environment: memory and disk cache would be a problem, reloading, search capabilities, etc. For example, if a HTML page does not reload properly, an agent could give out old information to a client. With good HTML coding, would reloading be assure? Ah! reloading would mean speed problems and possibly outdated information? Also, good HTML coding could include dates of files to force reloading. I really dont have all the answers, because I dont have extensive experiences or knowledge in pdf and HTML. In reality, I am in need of moral support and arguments. Thanks to all who would like to respond. Robert Richard HRD Canada. _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 16-Jul-1999 17:47:50-GMT,1859;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA26490 for ; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 11:47:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA32349; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 12:44:44 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 16 Jul 1999 12:42:19 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA32109; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 12:42:17 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 13:41:50 -0400 From: "Adrienne Haddad" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Re:pdf-digest for July-16-99 [V2 #567] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id MAA32104 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I will be out of the office Thursday, July 15th through Friday, July 23rd and will return on Monday, July 26th. If you need immediate assistance please contact Theresa Filaski (tfilaski@aip.org). Thank you. _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 16-Jul-1999 18:17:18-GMT,1754;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA27431 for ; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 12:17:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA03358; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 13:14:13 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 16 Jul 1999 13:11:19 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA02982; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 13:11:10 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: listowner@pdfzone.com (Unverified) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 13:10:12 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: ListOwner Subject: [PDF] Re:pdf-digest for July-16-99 [V2 #567] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >I will be out of the office ... No need to reply, folks -- the offending address has been removed from the list. - PDFzone.com _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 16-Jul-1999 18:43:20-GMT,2013;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA28246 for ; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 12:43:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA06113; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 13:40:55 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 16 Jul 1999 13:37:59 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA05886; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 13:37:57 -0500 Message-ID: From: Dennis Sims To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] PDF as Online Help? Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 13:22:09 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ My department recently began discussing alternatives to the standard Windows Help format. We are beginning to document software products that will rely on Web-based technology. We have discussed several variations of HTML Help as a solution, but none look particularly stable. We are considering distributing PDF files with bookmarks and keyword links as the Online Help. Has anyone tried this? What are the pros and cons? Any other comments are welcome.... Dennis Sims _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 16-Jul-1999 19:11:01-GMT,6943;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA28964 for ; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 13:10:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA09301; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 14:08:11 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 16 Jul 1999 14:05:32 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA08980; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 14:05:32 -0500 X-Sender: imarkovi@mail Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 20:04:31 +0100 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: "Ivan E. Markovic" Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF vs HTML. Cc: robert.r.richard@hrdc-drhc.gc.ca Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Robert, Well, giving you a direct answer to your question is not going to be easy. There is rarely a 'right' or a 'wrong' answer to questions like this. Especially when one cannot see the content or the context in which it is being used. But.... Having used PDF from day 1 while working at Adobe, and being one of its biggest fans I still have to say that it has its 'place' and it is not ideal for all situations. So why use PDF? If you are going to pass data/files around between groups of people or inside an organisation; it's great, annotations etc. make life a breeze. If you are distributing documents where the formatting is important or where graphics or images are an important part of the content PDF is perfect. But with 'plain' text, this become a little less black and white. Is the formatting important? Does it matter if the right font is used in the documentation? Are there rigorous company rules concerning document appearance and branding? Are these documents large? If the answer to one or more of these questions is yes then PDF might be a good choice. Yes PDF takes longer to view over the web. a plug-in has to be launched or the doc has to be download to disk before you can view it. But if the document contains many pages and might probably end up being printed, PDF is the perfect medium. But if the docs are small, if formatting is not a big issue and if people are only going to be printing a couple of pages from the documents, HTML is the way to go. It is easy to deliver to the user and requires no plug-in or software install. Because HTML is not compressed (and PDF files are), generally, the larger the document the greater the difference in file size between HTML and PDF (with PDF files being smaller). That is assuming that you don't embed all the fonts with sub-setting turned off! So how large are these docs? How many screens (or pages) per document and how many documents are we talking about? Will anyone be printing them? Are the PDFs designed for screen display or for print? All these come together as factors that will affect your final decision. If you can point me to a website then I can give you a better answer. As much as I love PDF it isn't the solution for every 'job' and it won't work for everyone. Good luck. I v a n ... >__________________________________________________________________ > >PDFZone list, > >>From October 1998 to April 1999, I have personally transferred all of our >telecentre procedures manuals from Word 6.0 to a pdf format. To do this, I >had to learn Acrobat 3x. As a result, with Adobe Reader, the 35 telecentre >agents now have access to this pdf resources via Banyan network. No more >paper manuals updates. A main menu page links all documents, then the table >of content links to the different chapters or sections. Plus, on the bottom >of each pages, a navigational tool bar helps the agents move up or down, >return to main menu, search or get back to the table of content. All >documents were formated so that each pages fits the screen and no scrolling >is needed. > >Today, I was shown a preview of the pdf resources that had been put in the >zone new intranet web site. What I have seen is my pdf creation put in >another format, yes, pure html. I did not see a .pdf, but rather a .htm. My >understanding was that they wanted to keep the telecentre pdf resources >format in a html environment. First of all, not having all the answers back >then, I did not feel that advantages were gained by pdf in html because of >size factor and speed. But, changing from pdf to html entirely, is really a >swift over my head. > >Ok, for a fact, our telecentre resources is all text, no graphics. So, what >are the real benefits of pdf that html does not have or vice versa, all of >this in our telecentre context? It seems that my project was worthless. I do >understand that the webmaster will have to update this resource on a daily >basis. What else is there in regards to changing from a pdf resources to an >html? Currently, with Adobe Reader and pdf on Banyan, 11 docs can stay open >in the agents computer memory, consequently speed is no longer a factor for a >typical day. In a telecentre, speed is of outmost importance. I really dont >see any benefits in regards to access speed when you have an HTML resources >in an HTML environment: memory and disk cache would be a problem, reloading, >search capabilities, etc. For example, if a HTML page does not reload >properly, an agent could give out old information to a client. With good HTML >coding, would reloading be assure? Ah! reloading would mean speed problems >and possibly outdated information? Also, good HTML coding could include dates >of files to force reloading. > >I really dont have all the answers, because I dont have extensive experiences >or knowledge in pdf and HTML. In reality, I am in need of moral support and >arguments. > >Thanks to all who would like to respond. > >Robert Richard >HRD Canada. >_ >____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ ><- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> > <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> >___________________________________________________________ Ivan Markovic VLTEC Director of Information Technology Direct: 01 2402544 Mobile: 087 2939256 Fax: 01 2402501 _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 16-Jul-1999 19:12:33-GMT,3681;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA29015 for ; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 13:12:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA08964; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 14:05:11 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 16 Jul 1999 14:02:19 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA08593; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 14:02:18 -0500 Message-ID: <419AC4196F97D11187C600805FF590A601055573@xch-knt-17.ds.boeing.com> From: "Meyerding, Henry W" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] PDF as Online Help? Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 12:02:10 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ The "solution" recently taken here was to port about 22,000 rtf files to HTML 4.0 and some limited javascript. That worked very well. Keep it simple. Identify the key functions that your users really want to have, rather than the neat functionality the developers want to deliver. If you decide to go that route, you can do some very amazing things with Perl, creating an application that allows you to interactively "open" a folder, read a file, convert it on the fly to HTML, display the results in the browser you'll use, and allow you to make any corrections to the HTML tags before it saves and goes onto the next one. Whatever you put into the front end conversion, if it saves meticulous hand work, will be worth it. Graphics are more complex than text naturally, but with right developer can make this conversion almost routine. For me the break point between HTML and PDF has always been, does anyone expect to be able to print this document? Best of luck! Henry Meyerding > ---------- > From: Dennis Sims[SMTP:dsims@spscommerce.com] > Reply To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Sent: Friday, July 16, 1999 11:22 AM > To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' > Subject: [PDF] PDF as Online Help? > > > The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > > My department recently began discussing alternatives to the standard Windows > Help format. We are beginning to document software products that will rely > on Web-based technology. We > have discussed several variations of HTML Help as a solution, but none look > particularly stable. We are considering distributing PDF files with > bookmarks and keyword links as the Online Help. Has anyone tried this? What > are the pros and cons? Any other comments are welcome.... > > Dennis Sims > _ > ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ > <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> > <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> > ___________________________________________________________ > _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 16-Jul-1999 19:21:58-GMT,4716;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA29273 for ; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 13:21:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA10564; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 14:19:16 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 16 Jul 1999 14:16:28 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA10249; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 14:16:26 -0500 X-Sender: imarkovi@mail Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 20:15:18 +0100 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: "Ivan E. Markovic" Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF as Online Help? Cc: dsims@spscommerce.com Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Dennis, Read the email reply I sent to 'Robert' today. It might go some way to answering your questions. Adobe distributes a large amount of their documentation in PDF and it works really well. I can search it simply and quickly and I can print the pages (which is something I have found a VERY large number of people still do these days). People want to have the pages in front of them when they are attempting to solve a problem and that is harder if you are viewing the pages on screen at the same time as trying to fix a problem on screen! Good bookmaking and linking can make PDFs very powerful; I love using large PDFs with a good table of contents and an Index. I search the Index (which is VERY quick) and then jump to the relevant page. I don't have to wait for pages to download or for images to appear. The text looks good and the graohics look even better. But of course updates have to be sent out somehow; the user has to install the Reader (but you can put that on the CD) and there can be installation issues. But again for larger docs. PDF is the way to go; graphics or no graphics. When I first started reading the HTML spec it was all in HTML and I wanted to print it so that I could read it off line, so that I could annotate it, so that I did not have to have a Browser window open while coding. I could not print it but it was not 'A' file it was a collection of HTML pages which look god awful when printed. They later included a PostScript file and then I believe a PDF file. Life was so much easier. Sorry, but to anyone out there who thinks the paper less office is just around the corner; dream on. People want print outs. They want the tangible documentation or at least to be able to have a decent print out. While I was at Adobe I would see people printing out documentation all the time... So if you do decided to go for HTML just make sure that you have a PDF version of the docs sitting somewhere on the site, just so those of us who like to hit the print key or who prefer decent formatting or the ability to enlarge the text can have their desires satiated... I v a n ... >The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ >__________________________________________________________________ > >My department recently began discussing alternatives to the standard Windows >Help format. We are beginning to document software products that will rely >on Web-based technology. We >have discussed several variations of HTML Help as a solution, but none look >particularly stable. We are considering distributing PDF files with >bookmarks and keyword links as the Online Help. Has anyone tried this? What >are the pros and cons? Any other comments are welcome.... > >Dennis Sims >_ >____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ ><- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> > <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> >___________________________________________________________ Ivan Markovic VLTEC Director of Information Technology Direct: 01 2402544 Mobile: 087 2939256 Fax: 01 2402501 _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 16-Jul-1999 19:34:43-GMT,3097;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA29602 for ; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 13:34:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA12119; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 14:31:45 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 16 Jul 1999 14:29:07 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA11677; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 14:29:03 -0500 From: robert.r.richard@hrdc-drhc.gc.ca X-Internal-ID: 378F85B600000104 Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 15:28:35 -0400 Message-ID: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) To: Subject: [PDF] PDF vs HTML. X-Incognito-SN: 12871 X-Incognito-Version: 4.25.361 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ PDFZone list, Ivan E. Markovic wrote-------- "...Yes PDF takes longer to view over the web. a plug-in has to be launched or the doc has to be download to disk before you can view it. But if the document contains many pages and might probably end up being printed, PDF is the perfect medium..." Ok, download to disk, but what about speed when changing from one document to another and browser caching fidelity? As is, there are approximately 25 pdf documents, 5 of those are over 500 kbytes and the rest below. Probably the Webmaster would have to defragment these documents into HTML sections: one section, one document. Ivan E. Markovic wrote-------- "...But if the docs are small, if formatting is not a big issue and if people are only going to be printing a couple of pages from the documents, HTML is the way to go..." Formatting is of no importance and actual pdf docs are all security lock for no printing. Ivan E. Markovic wrote-------- "...So how large are these docs? How many screens (or pages) per document and how many documents are we talking about? Will anyone be printing them? Are the PDFs designed for screen display or for print? All these come together as factors that will affect your final decision. If you can point me to a website then I can give you a better answer..." The largest documents (screen fit, no scrolling) are over 125 pages. No printing. Regretfully, the web site is intranet, Canadian Federal government. Thanks for shedding your light to my situation. Robert Richard. _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 16-Jul-1999 20:54:14-GMT,4945;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA01933 for ; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 14:54:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA20803; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 15:50:32 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 16 Jul 1999 15:47:00 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA20340; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 15:46:58 -0500 X-Sender: imarkovi@mail Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 21:45:57 +0100 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: "Ivan E. Markovic" Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF vs HTML. Cc: robert.r.richard@hrdc-drhc.gc.ca Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Robert, If you think that people are going to revist the documents PDF is the way to go. The docs are 125 pages? PDF is the way to go. Easier and MUCH faster to search. You download once and you don't have to go back to the web to view the doc again. Much faster in the long term. If you can direct people to individual sections and if they only want to view a couple of pages from a large doc, HTML might be the way to go. But if they want to browse, search, scan through or vist the doc multiple times PDF is the way to go. It's intranet, even better, you have more control and can dictate standards (to an extent). Post a link to Reader on your site. Encourage people to install the Reader and you're away. If you can break up the doc into smaller sections that always helps. Good sites have an index which lists sections; each section is a separate PDF. They also have the whole PDF for those who want it. Also if you byte serve the PDF they don't have to download the whole file anyway, they can jump around inside their browser using the plug-in to Reader. Ohhh, you don't want them to print, ummm; don't think you can prevent that with HTML. Nice feature of PDFs. internal security. I v a n ... At 3:28 PM -0400 7/16/99, robert.r.richard@hrdc-drhc.gc.ca wrote: >The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ >__________________________________________________________________ > >PDFZone list, > >Ivan E. Markovic wrote-------- > >"...Yes PDF takes longer to view over the web. a plug-in has to be launched or >the doc has to be download to disk before you can view it. But if the >document contains many pages and might probably end up being printed, PDF >is the perfect medium..." > >Ok, download to disk, but what about speed when changing from one document to >another and browser caching fidelity? As is, there are approximately 25 pdf >documents, 5 of those are over 500 kbytes and the rest below. Probably the >Webmaster would have to defragment these documents into HTML sections: one >section, one document. > >Ivan E. Markovic wrote-------- > >"...But if the docs are small, if formatting is not a big issue and if people >are only going to be printing a couple of pages from the documents, HTML is >the way to go..." > >Formatting is of no importance and actual pdf docs are all security lock for >no printing. > >Ivan E. Markovic wrote-------- > >"...So how large are these docs? How many screens (or pages) per document and >how many documents are we talking about? Will anyone be printing them? Are >the PDFs designed for screen display or for print? All these come together >as factors that will affect your final decision. If you can point me to a >website then I can give you a better answer..." > >The largest documents (screen fit, no scrolling) are over 125 pages. > >No printing. > >Regretfully, the web site is intranet, Canadian Federal government. > >Thanks for shedding your light to my situation. > >Robert Richard. >_ >____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ ><- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> > <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> >___________________________________________________________ Ivan Markovic VLTEC Director of Information Technology Direct: 01 2402544 Mobile: 087 2939256 Fax: 01 2402501 _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 16-Jul-1999 21:52:51-GMT,3460;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA03498 for ; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 15:52:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA26646; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 16:49:59 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 16 Jul 1999 16:47:14 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA26361; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 16:47:03 -0500 Message-ID: <378FA850.BE53E95D@nbnet.nb.ca> Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 18:46:56 -0300 From: Robert Richard X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Pdfzone Subject: [PDF] PDF vs HTML. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ PDFZone list, I do accept other readers to reply. Ivan E. Markovic wrote-------- "...If you think that people are going to revist the documents PDF is the way to go. The docs are 125 pages? PDF is the way to go. Easier and MUCH faster to search..." Our 35 agents in the telecentre answers approximately 750 000 calls annually on Unemployment Insurance premiums program for the Federal Government of Canada. So, we rely heavily on these pdf manuals for procedures, our locals office contacts, etc. In no circumstances, they cannot work without the material. Easier to search, that is what I believe. Alot of browsing is done to find information. Heavily. No exageration. Ivan E. Markovic wrote-------- "...But if they want to browse, search, scan through or vist the doc multiple times PDF is the way to go..." See above. Ivan E. Markovic wrote-------- "...It's intranet, even better, you have more control and can dictate standards (to an extent). Post a link to Reader on your site. Encourage people to install the Reader and you're away..." Acrobat Reader is currently what they are using, it is available throught the building Banyan network. Ivan E. Markovic wrote-------- "...If you can break up the doc into smaller sections that always helps. Good sites have an index which lists sections; each section is a separate PDF. They also have the whole PDF for those who want it..." The largest document has over 150 pages with a table of content of 11 pages, screen size layout. The table/document is divided in sections, sub-sections and sub of sub-sections. Ivan E. Markovic wrote-------- "...Also if you byte serve the PDF they don't have to download the whole file anyway, they can jump around inside their browser using the plug-in to Reader..." What is byte serve? A terme I have read, but not more. Thanks alot for details. Appreciated greatly. Robert Richard HRD Canada. _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 16-Jul-1999 21:53:25-GMT,2776;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA03531 for ; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 15:53:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA26677; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 16:50:13 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 16 Jul 1999 16:47:44 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA26463; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 16:47:43 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990716175130.00877bb0@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 17:51:30 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: RE: [PDF] Reader 4 and Search In-Reply-To: <002b01becf97$acf4faa0$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> References: <001a01becf93$53d40aa0$068c90c3@paul> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >Personally, I find nothing as annoying as installers that do >this because I always need the previous version. Internet >Explorer is a nightmare in this respect. But I may not be >a typical user. Still, I would be badly inconvenienced if >what you suggest was implemented. Understandably. However a compromise should be possible and would be IMO desirable. For instance: Installer runs and detects a previous version already installed. It gives you the option to install to the same directory and update, in which case you get the latest version *only*. It gives you the alternate option of installing to a different directory, in which case you have both versions. In the latter case, of course, you'd lose the association of the PDF file type to your older version, but that's not a horrible problem to overcome and would be what most people would want in any case, I'd think. Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 16-Jul-1999 22:07:45-GMT,3421;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA03926 for ; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 16:07:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA28291; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 17:04:46 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 16 Jul 1999 17:02:08 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA28073; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 17:02:04 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990716180548.00927a00@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 18:05:48 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF as Online Help? In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >Adobe distributes a large amount of their documentation in PDF and it works >really well. I can search it simply and quickly and I can print the pages >(which is something I have found a VERY large number of people still do >these days). People want to have the pages in front of them when they are >attempting to solve a problem and that is harder if you are viewing the >pages on screen at the same time as trying to fix a problem on screen! > That's why I keep the laptop handy ... PDFs on it, the work at hand on the Main Screen. That by way of leading into a question I've been turning over in my mind lately. Has anyone at Adobe considered doing some software that would allow users to "port" PDF into something that would be readable on gadgets like the Palm Pilot? Let me back up and qualify that a bit first. Givens: - Plain text, no attempt whatsoever at maintaining formatting, beyond converting columnar text back into a single column by thread. - No attempt at rendering graphics or layout. Most of the bits and pieces are in place already, it appears. The software that does the work at ... oh, what's the URL? ... access.adobe.com or the like? does the PDF to TXT conversion already. There's shareware to convert TXT to a special reader format for the Pilot, and as I recall the Pilot reader is free. Some string, a little glue, a few spare bits of baling wire ... and something quite useful could result. Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 16-Jul-1999 22:16:14-GMT,2370;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA04125 for ; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 16:16:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA29338; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 17:14:16 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 16 Jul 1999 17:11:46 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA29027; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 17:11:45 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Reader 4 and Search Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 23:11:33 +0100 Message-ID: <003401becfd8$2a35b140$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19990716175130.00877bb0@pop.iglou.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > In the latter case, of course, you'd lose the association of > the PDF file > type to your older version, but that's not a horrible problem > to overcome > and would be what most people would want in any case, I'd think. It would also be extremely helpful if there was an installer option - from the command line, perhaps overridable - to preserve any existing PDF association. That would allow applications to install private copies of Reader with exotic plug-ins for their own consumption only. At a stroke, many of the problems associated with reinstalling AS PART OF A PRODUCT would vanish... Aandi _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 16-Jul-1999 22:44:41-GMT,2533;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA04920 for ; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 16:44:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA31988; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 17:41:08 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 16 Jul 1999 17:38:27 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA31622; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 17:38:25 -0500 Message-ID: <378FB513.92875D12@scenicsoft.com> Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 15:41:23 -0700 From: sbailey X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF as Online Help? References: <3.0.5.32.19990716180548.00927a00@pop.iglou.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Steve, Check out PDF2doc http://www.zorglub.com/ This plug-in extracts text from a PDF file and converts it to the PalmPilot Doc format. Regards, Samantha Steve Rindsberg wrote: > > That by way of leading into a question I've been turning over in my mind > lately. Has anyone at Adobe considered doing some software that would > allow users to "port" PDF into something that would be readable on gadgets > like the Palm Pilot? > > suppose?> > > Let me back up and qualify that a bit first. Givens: > > - Plain text, no attempt whatsoever at maintaining formatting, beyond > converting columnar text back into a single column by thread. -- ___________________________________________ Samantha M. Bailey | Software Test Engineer 425.355.6655 | http://www.scenicsoft.com _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 17-Jul-1999 1:31:03-GMT,11149;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA08661 for ; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 19:31:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA19000; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 20:24:28 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 16 Jul 1999 20:19:48 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA18125; Fri, 16 Jul 1999 20:19:46 -0500 X-Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated X-Division: Core Technologies X-Department: Product Interoperability Analysis X-URL: Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.19990716171551.00b7bca0@mail-303> X-Sender: isaacs@mail-303 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 X-Priority: 1 (Highest) Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 18:19:17 -0700 To: (Recipient list suppressed) From: Dov Isaacs Subject: [PDF] (Windows'9x)+(AdobePS 4.3)+(FrameMaker)=>(Entomology 101) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=====================_22501045==_.ALT" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ --=====================_22501045==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" FrameMaker & PDF Forum Readers: If you do not print PostScript or generate PDF files using Windows'9x, please excuse this intrusion. You may safely ignore this message. Based on feedback (personal email and on-forum posts) as well as via my own personal experiences, there appears to be a very serious problem with the AdobePS 4.3 driver in certain circumstances. As far as we know, the problem has only been reported with FrameMaker in conjunction with this driver release, but it is indeed possible that other applications may also exhibit this problem with that version of the driver. SYMPTOMS: When printing a "long" document, the system or the application that is "printing" appears to "hang" irretrievably. Short of rebooting the computer, regular work cannot continue. The problem seems to be avoided by printing the "long" document by parts. The problem only seems to affect FrameMaker output. WHAT WE KNOW: The problem appears NOT to be associated simply with the number of pages in the document. The bug is AdobePS 4.2.4 through 4.2.6 that limited the number of pages to 256 in GDI applications was fixed for AdobePS 4.3. We have successfully printed some FrameMaker documents with many hundreds of pages with AdobePS 4.3. Output from applications that generate most, if not all, of their own PostScript output stream (including Adobe Illustrator, Adobe Photoshop, Adobe PageMaker, Adobe Acrobat, Adobe InDesign, CorelDRAW, Corel Ventura Publisher, Macromedia Freehand, and Quark XPress) do not exhibit this problem. The problem seems to occur with documents in which there are a very large number of EPS graphics that the application program must pass "through" the driver. By "a very large number of EPS" graphics, I mean that I can reproduce the problem with a 373 page document that has approximately 4500 EPS graphics. The problem doesn't occur if I print the same document with "only" 3000 EPS graphics or the first 200 pages of that document with all 2400 EPS graphics. The problem may be memory related. In the examples related above, I was running on a system with 256 MB memory with a 384 MB paging file. We believe that the reason we see the problem so far only with FrameMaker is that no other application is so readily and generally used for such long documents. Conceivably, the same problem could occur with long Microsoft Word documents that have oodles of imported EPS graphics files. We know of no similar problem with the AdobePS 4.2.x drivers (where x>=4), but then again, those versions have a 256 page limit. WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO KNOW: (1) Has anyone seen this problem with other applications in conjunction with AdobePS 4.3? And if so, what is the profile of the documents or data? (2) Has anyone seen this problem with FrameMaker where it has NOT involved EPS graphics in the document, i.e., oodles of TIFF images, for example? WORKAROUNDS: (1) You can print "by parts." Print the first "n" pages of "m" followed by the next "n" pages, etc. For creating PDF files, you can combine the PDF files via the "insert" function of Acrobat. (2) You can punt back as far as AdobePS 4.2.4, remembering the problems with the pre-2015 PPD files and that TrueType will yield proper search results for Acrobat. ACTION ITEMS: The bug has been reported to the Adobe PostScript Driver QA and Development groups along with files that demonstrate the problem. We consider this a bug of the highest severity and priority. We are awaiting their analysis of the bug and response as to when a fix can be provided. I will report back to these forums when we have any news of substance to report to you including availability of a fix, other workarounds, or request for additional information. On a personal note ... I know that some of you are peeved that there wasn't an earlier response. I do my best to respond when there is actually something to be said. I have also been out of the office for approximately three of the last five weeks, two of those weeks dealing with family issues out-of-town. (The good news is that "shaloshim" is now over, thank you!) Late sunsets on Friday evenings are good for getting some of this stuff done and posted. Shabbat Shalom! - Dov --=====================_22501045==_.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" FrameMaker & PDF Forum Readers:

If you do not print PostScript or generate PDF files using Windows'9x,
please excuse this intrusion. You may safely ignore this message.

Based on feedback (personal email and on-forum posts) as well as via
my own personal experiences, there appears to be a very serious
problem with the AdobePS 4.3 driver in certain circumstances. As far
as we know, the problem has only been reported with FrameMaker in
conjunction with this driver release, but it is indeed possible that
other applications may also exhibit this problem with that version of
the driver.


SYMPTOMS:

When printing a "long" document, the system or the application
that is "printing" appears to "hang" irretrievably. Short of
rebooting the computer, regular work cannot continue. The problem
seems to be avoided by printing the "long" document by parts.

The problem only seems to affect FrameMaker output.


WHAT WE KNOW:

The problem appears NOT to be associated simply with the number of pages
in the document. The bug is AdobePS 4.2.4 through 4.2.6 that limited
the number of pages to 256 in GDI applications was fixed for AdobePS 4.3.
We have successfully printed some FrameMaker documents with many hundreds
of pages with AdobePS 4.3.

Output from applications that generate most, if not all, of their own
PostScript output stream (including Adobe Illustrator, Adobe Photoshop,
Adobe PageMaker, Adobe Acrobat, Adobe InDesign, CorelDRAW, Corel Ventura
Publisher, Macromedia Freehand, and Quark XPress) do not exhibit this
problem.

The problem seems to occur with documents in which there are a very large
number of EPS graphics that the application program must pass "through"
the driver. By "a very large number of EPS" graphics, I mean that I can
reproduce the problem with a 373 page document that has approximately
4500 EPS graphics. The problem doesn't occur if I print the same document
with "only" 3000 EPS graphics or the first 200 pages of that document
with all 2400 EPS graphics.

The problem may be memory related. In the examples related above, I was
running on a system with 256 MB memory with a 384 MB paging file.

We believe that the reason we see the problem so far only with FrameMaker
is that no other application is so readily and generally used for such
long documents. Conceivably, the same problem could occur with long
Microsoft Word documents that have oodles of imported EPS graphics files.

We know of no similar problem with the AdobePS 4.2.x drivers (where x>=4),
but then again, those versions have a 256 page limit.


WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO KNOW:

(1) Has anyone seen this problem with other applications in conjunction
with AdobePS 4.3? And if so, what is the profile of the documents or data?

(2) Has anyone seen this problem with FrameMaker where it has NOT involved
EPS graphics in the document, i.e., oodles of TIFF images, for example?


WORKAROUNDS:

(1) You can print "by parts." Print the first "n" pages of "m" followed by
the next "n" pages, etc. For creating PDF files, you can combine the PDF
files via the "insert" function of Acrobat.

(2) You can punt back as far as AdobePS 4.2.4, remembering the problems
with the pre-2015 PPD files and that TrueType will yield proper search
results for Acrobat.


ACTION ITEMS:

The bug has been reported to the Adobe PostScript Driver QA and Development
groups along with files that demonstrate the problem. We consider this a
bug of the highest severity and priority. We are awaiting their analysis of
the bug and response as to when a fix can be provided.

I will report back to these forums when we have any news of substance to
report to you including availability of a fix, other workarounds, or request
for additional information.



On a personal note ... I know that some of you are peeved that there wasn't
an earlier response. I do my best to respond when there is actually something
to be said. I have also been out of the office for approximately three of the
last five weeks, two of those weeks dealing with family issues out-of-town.
(The good news is that "shaloshim" is now over, thank you!)

Late sunsets on Friday evenings are good for getting some of this stuff
done and posted. Shabbat Shalom!



        - Dov --=====================_22501045==_.ALT-- _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 17-Jul-1999 15:05:44-GMT,2113;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA26123 for ; Sat, 17 Jul 1999 09:05:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA12597; Sat, 17 Jul 1999 10:01:51 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 17 Jul 1999 09:57:44 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA11803; Sat, 17 Jul 1999 09:57:42 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990717110133.00922100@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1999 11:01:33 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF as Online Help? In-Reply-To: <378FB513.92875D12@scenicsoft.com> References: <3.0.5.32.19990716180548.00927a00@pop.iglou.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > >Check out PDF2doc http://www.zorglub.com/ > >This plug-in extracts text from a PDF file and converts it to the >PalmPilot Doc format. > On my way! Thanks, Samantha! Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 17-Jul-1999 17:56:43-GMT,6501;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA29952 for ; Sat, 17 Jul 1999 11:56:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA08226; Sat, 17 Jul 1999 12:52:40 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 17 Jul 1999 12:49:20 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA07535; Sat, 17 Jul 1999 12:49:17 -0500 Message-ID: <3790C199.2637A28A@dconstructs.com> Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1999 13:47:05 -0400 From: "Robert E. Moran" Organization: Digital Constructs Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF vs HTML. References: Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------88108716E70FB03F6692D208" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------88108716E70FB03F6692D208 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit First off, HTML & PDF are complementary. HTML resides on the net while PDF can reside in either off or online states. PDF retains document layout and prints MUCH better than HTML. As for speed, HTML is faster but when complex layout is involved, the speed factor starts to go away. Finally, it is much harder to generate HTML than PDF as you probably know. Last but not least, in depth data should be in PDF for people to peruse while the quick and dirty info for web browsing should be in HTML. Both technologies have their place, the only need is to know what information should go where in designing a sophisticated information system. HTH R.Moran robert.r.richard@hrdc-drhc.gc.ca wrote: > The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > > PDFZone list, > > >From October 1998 to April 1999, I have personally transferred all of our > telecentre procedures manuals from Word 6.0 to a pdf format. To do this, I > had to learn Acrobat 3x. As a result, with Adobe Reader, the 35 telecentre > agents now have access to this pdf resources via Banyan network. No more > paper manuals updates. A main menu page links all documents, then the table > of content links to the different chapters or sections. Plus, on the bottom > of each pages, a navigational tool bar helps the agents move up or down, > return to main menu, search or get back to the table of content. All > documents were formated so that each pages fits the screen and no scrolling > is needed. > > Today, I was shown a preview of the pdf resources that had been put in the > zone new intranet web site. What I have seen is my pdf creation put in > another format, yes, pure html. I did not see a .pdf, but rather a .htm. My > understanding was that they wanted to keep the telecentre pdf resources > format in a html environment. First of all, not having all the answers back > then, I did not feel that advantages were gained by pdf in html because of > size factor and speed. But, changing from pdf to html entirely, is really a > swift over my head. > > Ok, for a fact, our telecentre resources is all text, no graphics. So, what > are the real benefits of pdf that html does not have or vice versa, all of > this in our telecentre context? It seems that my project was worthless. I do > understand that the webmaster will have to update this resource on a daily > basis. What else is there in regards to changing from a pdf resources to an > html? Currently, with Adobe Reader and pdf on Banyan, 11 docs can stay open > in the agents computer memory, consequently speed is no longer a factor for a > typical day. In a telecentre, speed is of outmost importance. I really dont > see any benefits in regards to access speed when you have an HTML resources > in an HTML environment: memory and disk cache would be a problem, reloading, > search capabilities, etc. For example, if a HTML page does not reload > properly, an agent could give out old information to a client. With good HTML > coding, would reloading be assure? Ah! reloading would mean speed problems > and possibly outdated information? Also, good HTML coding could include dates > of files to force reloading. > > I really dont have all the answers, because I dont have extensive experiences > or knowledge in pdf and HTML. In reality, I am in need of moral support and > arguments. > > Thanks to all who would like to respond. > > Robert Richard > HRD Canada. > _ > ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ > <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> > <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> > ___________________________________________________________ -- Robert E. Moran Digital Constructs Inc. 759 North Park Avenue Redding, CT 06896 Tel 203-452-1116 203-452-8085 Fax: 203-452-0416 E-Mail remoran@dconstructs.com http://www.dconstructs.com "Confusion is a misapprehension of a higher order" - Henry Miller --------------88108716E70FB03F6692D208 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="remoran.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Robert E. Moran Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="remoran.vcf" begin:vcard n:Moran;Robert tel;fax:203-452-0416 tel;home:203-452-1116 tel;work:203-452-1116 x-mozilla-html:TRUE url:http://www.dconstructs.com org:Digital Constructs Inc. adr:;;759 North Park Avenue;Redding;CT;06896;USA version:2.1 email;internet:remoran@dconstructs.com title:President note:"Confusion is a misapprension of a higher order" - Henry Miller fn:Robert E. Moran end:vcard --------------88108716E70FB03F6692D208-- _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 18-Jul-1999 0:27:21-GMT,2437;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA08343 for ; Sat, 17 Jul 1999 18:27:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA07495; Sat, 17 Jul 1999 19:23:25 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 17 Jul 1999 19:21:33 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA07339; Sat, 17 Jul 1999 19:21:32 -0500 Message-ID: <3790D6E0.7AF8@garponline.com> Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1999 12:17:52 -0700 From: The Garpster Organization: GARP Custom Newsletter Service X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] PDF vs HTML. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi Robert, As far as I am concerned, PDF beats HTML hands down for various reasons, the main one being presentability. HTML is a limited and unwieldy program that severely limits the creativity. Using a PDF means you can create your docs in practically ANY program you are comfortable with (I use PageMaker) and have it look exactly the same in a PDF. Many publications I create in PageMaker just cannot be created in HTML, but I can ALWAYS PDF 'em for web posting or client proofing. Regards, Frank /'^'\ ( o o ) -oOOO--(_)--OOOo-------------------------------------------------- .oooO GARP Custom Newsletter Service ( ) Oooo. http://www.garponline.com ---\ (----( )--------------------------------------------------- \_) ) / mailto:garpster@garponline.com (_/ _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 18-Jul-1999 23:25:20-GMT,2044;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA08645 for ; Sun, 18 Jul 1999 17:25:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA08945; Sun, 18 Jul 1999 18:16:41 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 18 Jul 1999 18:04:25 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA07970; Sun, 18 Jul 1999 18:04:23 -0500 Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 23:35:53 +0100 From: David Graddol To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Acrobat Page Close Action Message-ID: <9c50c32349%DavidOU@Gill.english.co.uk> X-Organization: The Open University X-Mailer: Messenger v1.40d for RISC OS MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I have a problem with Page Close actions in Acrobat 4/Reader 4. I have both a Page Open and a Page Close action set (both fragments of Javascript) but I find that whereas both work as expected in Exchange /Reader 3.02, in Version 4 the Page Close action only seems to occur in Continuous page view, and not in single page view. Page Open actions do appear correctly in both continuous and single page view. Is this is a bug with Acrobat 4, or have I missed something? David Graddol _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 19-Jul-1999 12:10:28-GMT,1620;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA25715 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 06:10:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA31803; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 07:07:13 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 19 Jul 1999 07:04:57 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA31547; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 07:04:55 -0500 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 13:01:54 +0100 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: ron Subject: [PDF] bookmark problem MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 4.02 M Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Book marks work ok but when the cursor is passed over some of them a yellow window is displayed with the same text why ??? -- regards Ron _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 19-Jul-1999 12:54:29-GMT,5000;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA26683 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 06:54:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA02794; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 07:50:58 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 19 Jul 1999 07:49:25 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA02696; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 07:49:24 -0500 X-Sender: imarkovi@mail Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19990716180548.00927a00@pop.iglou.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1999 12:48:30 +0100 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: "Ivan E. Markovic" Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF as Online Help? Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ In answer to your question concerning PDF in a portable device; well if you read the trade mags you would have been aware of the announcement 5 years ago that Adobe was working with a number of vendors in that field and that they were closely working with Trimble navigation! A wonderful partnership; some GREAT ideas and superb technology. As part of that they also announced their relationship with InFocus and they delivered PDF inside a number of different devices; I liked them and I was really looking forward to an explosion of products with PDF rasterisers embedded. Ummmm, sorry, they all died and most are no more. I think Adobe decided that it was not in the business of delivering firmware (through embedded PDF rasterisers) to vendors/customers. Which is why PrintGear also went the way of the dinosaur. Sad really. Some wonderful ideas were generated some of which I had the pleasure of using, but most never saw the light of day. Don't hold your breath. I v a n ... At 6:05 PM -0400 7/16/99, Steve Rindsberg wrote: >The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ >__________________________________________________________________ > > >>Adobe distributes a large amount of their documentation in PDF and it works >>really well. I can search it simply and quickly and I can print the pages >>(which is something I have found a VERY large number of people still do >>these days). People want to have the pages in front of them when they are >>attempting to solve a problem and that is harder if you are viewing the >>pages on screen at the same time as trying to fix a problem on screen! >> > >That's why I keep the laptop handy ... PDFs on it, the work at hand on the >Main Screen. > >That by way of leading into a question I've been turning over in my mind >lately. Has anyone at Adobe considered doing some software that would >allow users to "port" PDF into something that would be readable on gadgets >like the Palm Pilot? > >suppose?> > >Let me back up and qualify that a bit first. Givens: > >- Plain text, no attempt whatsoever at maintaining formatting, beyond >converting columnar text back into a single column by thread. > >- No attempt at rendering graphics or layout. > >Most of the bits and pieces are in place already, it appears. The software >that does the work at ... oh, what's the URL? ... access.adobe.com or the >like? does the PDF to TXT conversion already. There's shareware to >convert TXT to a special reader format for the Pilot, and as I recall the >Pilot reader is free. > >Some string, a little glue, a few spare bits of baling wire ... and >something quite useful could result. > > > >Steve Rindsberg >President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau >http://www.rdpslides.com > >Developers of ZAP! >Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus >http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm >_ >____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ ><- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> > <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> >___________________________________________________________ Ivan Markovic VLTEC Director of Information Technology Direct: 01 2402544 Mobile: 087 2939256 Fax: 01 2402501 _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 19-Jul-1999 13:06:31-GMT,1734;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA26987 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 07:06:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA04233; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 08:03:51 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 19 Jul 1999 08:02:41 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA04114; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 08:02:40 -0500 Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 14:01:24 +0100 From: David Graddol To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Text to speech Message-ID: <1e8e122449%DavidOU@Gill.english.co.uk> X-Organization: The Open University X-Mailer: Messenger v1.40d for RISC OS MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Is there any plug-in which will allow text-to-speech direct from a PDF document? Is there any way of obtaining this functionality, other than extracting text from the PDF? David Graddol _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 19-Jul-1999 13:07:58-GMT,6706;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA27002 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 07:07:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA04379; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 08:05:48 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 19 Jul 1999 08:04:44 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA04293; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 08:04:43 -0500 X-Sender: imarkovi@mail Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <378FA850.BE53E95D@nbnet.nb.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1999 13:03:50 +0100 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: "Ivan E. Markovic" Subject: [PDF] PDF vs HTML (What is byte-serving?) Cc: robertr@nbnet.nb.ca Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ For anyone out there who wants to know, here is a very brief explanation of what byte-serving is. PDFs consist of a series of Resources (Images, Fonts, Forms, Annotations, Pages etc.) all referenced by something called a cross-reference table. It's basically a table of contents that tells you where you can find Page 1 (or 2 or 3...) in the PDF file and also all its associated Resources. It enables you to jump around the file picking out the bits you need when you need them. This is great for quick access to the pages where you don't have to read in pages 1,2, 3 & 4 before you can view page 5. You can just jump to page 5. But across the web, this can cause problems, as you need to more efficient in the way you access a file so as to reduce the number of requests for data and the amount of said data transmitted. So Adobe invented 'Optimised' PDFs (you will see the button when you Save from Exchange 3.x). An optimised PDF has the objects in the file ordered in such a way that makes delivering the Resources to the user highly efficient. It also means that you only need to deliver the tiny blocks of data on demand rather than the whole file. This only works if the WebServer has the PDF byte-serving module and the user is viewing the PDF inside a Browser using the plug-in. The way it works is as follows. Info about the first page is requested and comes down, the page contents are streamed into the browser window. Only after all the text is there are the Images requested, then if there are any special fonts embedded that need to be downloaded they come down last. This can lead to a very dramatic change in the page appearance. Because Acrobat will create faux (substitution) fonts for the embedded fonts until the actual font is streamed down, at which point the real fonts will be substituted and the characters literally 'morph' into their real forms. Clever stuff. I remember first seeing this as a technology demo inside Adobe and it was so impressive! Anyway to cut to the chase. The benefits are easy to see. If you are going to look through a couple of pages in a PDF and want to jump around this approach works really well; the pages come down quickly and very efficiently. But if you are going to be reading a large document and want to move around a lot I would always download the PDF to my desktop and read it locally. Initially it takes longer but in the long term it is MUCH more efficient. That was a simple overview; if you have any more specific questions or if I did not answer your question properly feel free to email me back. I v a n ... P.S. sounds like you'd be a banana not to use PDF! >The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ >__________________________________________________________________ > >PDFZone list, > >I do accept other readers to reply. > >Ivan E. Markovic wrote-------- > >"...If you think that people are going to revist the documents PDF is >the way to go. The docs are 125 pages? PDF is the way to go. Easier and >MUCH faster to search..." > >Our 35 agents in the telecentre answers approximately 750 000 calls >annually on Unemployment Insurance premiums program for the Federal >Government of Canada. So, we rely heavily on these pdf manuals for >procedures, our locals office contacts, etc. In no circumstances, they >cannot work without the material. > >Easier to search, that is what I believe. Alot of browsing is done to >find information. Heavily. No exageration. > >Ivan E. Markovic wrote-------- > >"...But if they want to browse, search, scan through or vist the doc >multiple times PDF is the way to go..." > >See above. > >Ivan E. Markovic wrote-------- > >"...It's intranet, even better, you have more control and can dictate >standards (to an extent). Post a link to Reader on your site. Encourage >people to install the Reader and you're away..." > >Acrobat Reader is currently what they are using, it is available >throught the building Banyan network. > >Ivan E. Markovic wrote-------- > >"...If you can break up the doc into smaller sections that always helps. >Good sites have an index which lists sections; each section is a >separate PDF. They also have the whole PDF for those who want it..." > >The largest document has over 150 pages with a table of content of 11 >pages, screen size layout. The table/document is divided in sections, >sub-sections and sub of sub-sections. > >Ivan E. Markovic wrote-------- > >"...Also if you byte serve the PDF they don't have to download the whole >file anyway, they can jump around inside their browser using the plug-in >to Reader..." > >What is byte serve? A terme I have read, but not more. > >Thanks alot for details. Appreciated greatly. > >Robert Richard >HRD Canada. > >_ >____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ ><- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> > <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> >___________________________________________________________ Ivan Markovic VLTEC Director of Information Technology Direct: 01 2402544 Mobile: 087 2939256 Fax: 01 2402501 _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 19-Jul-1999 13:33:39-GMT,2333;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA27652 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 07:33:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA07095; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 08:31:23 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 19 Jul 1999 08:30:10 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA06821; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 08:30:09 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: mgavin_list@smtp.digapp.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <1e8e122449%DavidOU@Gill.english.co.uk> Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 09:32:39 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Mark Gavin Subject: Re: [PDF] Text to speech Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >Is there any plug-in which will allow text-to-speech direct from >a PDF document? Is there any way of obtaining this functionality, >other than extracting text from the PDF? > >David Graddol David, I have been working on a "Speak" plug-in for the Macintosh in my spare time. I have the text to speech part working; it's only a matter of adding the rest of the features I would like. Right now I am working on having the word highlight as it is being spoken. I should be releasing it in the next few months as a free plug-in. At that time it will be available in the free plug-ins area on our web site. Mark Gavin Vice President, Software Development Digital Applications, Inc. 215 East Providence Road Aldan, PA 19018-4129 (610) 284-4006 http://www.digapp.com _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 19-Jul-1999 13:33:55-GMT,2332;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA27665 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 07:33:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA06855; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 08:30:38 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 19 Jul 1999 08:29:08 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA06688; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 08:29:04 -0500 Message-ID: <50AFCE9910E9D211982E00608CF26D1E17BD2B@mail.roundtable.com.au> From: Karl De Abrew To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Text to speech Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 23:28:53 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi David, > Is there any plug-in which will allow text-to-speech direct from > a PDF document? Is there any way of obtaining this functionality, > other than extracting text from the PDF? Sorry I don't know of any plug-ins that do this out of the box. It is something that we looked into some time ago, but never made time to actually follow through with. Anyhow, if you have access to a developer, then then could write a plug-in that utilised the Microsoft Text-to-Speech API. See http://microsoft.com/iit/projects/mstts.htm for more details. You could "go wild" and add all sorts of interesting stuff like popup agents that "read" the text in a PDF to you. regards, Karl De Abrew karl@PlanetPDF.com Planet PDF - Code Cuts, Acrobuddies, and PDF Store http://www.PlanetPDF.com/ _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 19-Jul-1999 14:06:08-GMT,2417;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA28437 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 08:06:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA10669; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 09:02:22 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 19 Jul 1999 09:00:44 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA10267; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 09:00:42 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990719100435.00930b30@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 10:04:35 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF as Online Help? In-Reply-To: References: <3.0.5.32.19990716180548.00927a00@pop.iglou.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >In answer to your question concerning PDF in a portable device; well if you >read the trade mags you would have been aware of the announcement 5 years >ago that Adobe was working with a number of vendors in that field Now that you mention it, I do recall having seen something along those lines. On the other hand, the plug-in Samantha suggested should work out nicely for my purposes, so we can consider the problem solved. Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 19-Jul-1999 15:15:47-GMT,2085;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA00219 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 09:15:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA18155; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 10:12:37 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 19 Jul 1999 10:10:25 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA17784; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 10:10:24 -0500 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19990719151021.0097f260@env-sol.com> X-Sender: thiersch@env-sol.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 08:10:21 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Tom Thiersch Subject: Re: [PDF] bookmark problem Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ In newer versions of Windows, that's the standard way of showing you the contents of partially-obscured text. If the text is fully visible, the display doesn't change. In Version 4 Acrobat, Adobe simply adopted this standard, which helps work around the limitations of the narrow width of the bookmark/thumbnail pane. Tom At 01:01 PM 7/19/99 +0100, you wrote: >Book marks work ok but when the cursor is passed over some of them a >yellow window is displayed with the same text > >why ??? >-- > >regards >Ron _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 19-Jul-1999 15:55:05-GMT,2461;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA01253 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 09:55:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA22160; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 10:52:01 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 19 Jul 1999 10:50:21 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA21834; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 10:50:19 -0500 X-Sender: prodok@pop.eunet.ch Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <1e8e122449%DavidOU@Gill.english.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 16:48:02 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Max Wyss Subject: Re: [PDF] Text to speech Cc: David Graddol Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ David, Text to Speech relies on text. You might look at the "for disabled" section on the Adobe website (I think it is http://www.access.adobe.com, but no guarantee for that), and see what they suggest. However, those products seem to be Windoze-only. If you have a server available, you could also look at an Adobe Document Server solution, which has the option to deliver text on top of the image, which then can be handled. Hope, this can help. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch [ Bridging the Knowledge Gap ] ______________________ >Is there any plug-in which will allow text-to-speech direct from >a PDF document? Is there any way of obtaining this functionality, >other than extracting text from the PDF? _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 19-Jul-1999 17:01:15-GMT,1788;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA03304 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 11:01:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA28291; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 11:50:22 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 19 Jul 1999 11:48:52 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA28131; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 11:48:51 -0500 Message-Id: <199907191648.LAA28125@everglades.binc.net> X-Sender: castidata@mail.compusmart.ab.ca X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 10:51:12 -0600 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Kevin Chu Subject: [PDF] OT: Framemaker viewer In-Reply-To: References: <1e8e122449%DavidOU@Gill.english.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Does anyone here know if htere is a shareware/freeware version of a viewer for framemaker files? Thanks _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 19-Jul-1999 18:08:44-GMT,2118;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA05355 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 12:08:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA03291; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 13:04:46 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 19 Jul 1999 13:02:46 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA03040; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 13:02:42 -0500 Message-Id: <199907191802.NAA03035@everglades.binc.net> X-Sender: castidata@mail.compusmart.ab.ca X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 12:05:04 -0600 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Kevin Chu Subject: [PDF] Problem - word equation editor In-Reply-To: <199907191648.LAA28125@everglades.binc.net> References: <1e8e122449%DavidOU@Gill.english.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi, I am having a problem creating a pdf which will retain the bracket created while using Word97's equation editor. They appear in the word document but not in the pdf. To make things worse only some of the equations are affected. I am working on a NT4/sp5 machine and using the xerodocutech 135 ps2 v2010-5 print driver. Thanks in advance for any help or advice offered! _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 19-Jul-1999 18:49:47-GMT,2335;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA06760 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 12:49:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA07790; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 13:46:40 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 19 Jul 1999 13:45:17 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA07645; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 13:45:15 -0500 Message-ID: <3793721E.BCD59941@adobe.com> Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 11:44:46 -0700 From: Roberto Perelman Organization: Adobe Systems Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Acrobat Page Close Action References: <9c50c32349%DavidOU@Gill.english.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Page Close Javascript actions work for me in Single Page mode using Acrobat 4.0. Can you perhaps send me a sample that shows the problem? Roberto Perelman Forms Project Lead, Acrobat Engineering > I have a problem with Page Close actions in Acrobat 4/Reader 4. I > have both a Page Open and a Page Close action set (both fragments > of Javascript) but I find that whereas both work as expected in > Exchange /Reader 3.02, in Version 4 the Page Close action only > seems to occur in Continuous page view, and not in single page > view. Page Open actions do appear correctly in both continuous > and single page view. > > Is this is a bug with Acrobat 4, or have I missed something? _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 19-Jul-1999 19:13:25-GMT,4327;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA07413 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 13:13:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA10415; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 14:10:43 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 19 Jul 1999 14:09:11 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA10268; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 14:09:09 -0500 Message-Id: <199907191908.MAA29857@mail.inficad.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 12:08:58 -0700 Subject: [PDF] Re: Distiller problems From: "Rich Sprague" To: Acrobat Talk CC: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > The problem is that a grayscale image in the file that looks fine in the > original PDF and looks fine in PageMaker disappears when I distill my PM > document with Acrobat 4.0 (using Press or Print optimized settings). If I > distill the same file with Distiller 3.02, everything is fine. If I use > EnFocus PitStop to select the image, it suggests it is there, but it is blank > and does not print. Oh, am I glad to hear from you. This bug has been a nuisance and a pain in my behind for weeks. I have responded to many threads and looked at many people's files that have had the very same problem. Since I am writing a tech doc on how to create pdfs from Pagemaker files, I forced myself to address this issue this past weekend. I spent nearly a day on it, before I figured it out. I use Quark, primarily. > Any thoughts on the specific problem (losing the grayscale image)? Yes, lots of thoughts and some of them aren't nice. What I came up with is that with Pagemaker 6.5x and *either* color or grayscale tiffs, and Acrobat 4x, one of two things happen. Either the image disappears completely, or can be viewed in the pdf but can't be selected in PitStop. QBox (of Tricks) says it's a X Form Object. You have two choices that I see. One, convert the tiff to an eps and you should be fine. Two, go into the Distiller Job Options, in the Advanced tab, and turn off Preserve OPI Comments. This fix worked for me, and will be *highlighted* in 1000 pt. type in my tech sheet. FWIW, this problem does not happen in Acrobat 3x. > And on the > larger issue of PDF combatability -- across platforms, with various > originators? And lastly, I have seen various posts on this and a related list > recounting problems with Acrobat 4.0 that did not seem to exist with 3.0. Is > there a list of known problems with 4.0? Or a place to report such problems > to Adobe? Adobe, unlike our friends from Quark, are avid readers and posters to these lists. Someone will read your message and, hopefully, mine. As far as Acrobat compatibility goes, the only other major issue I have encountered -- which has been another pain -- relates to the change from using Helvetica in 3x to Arial in 4x, as one of the Base 14 fonts. There have been many nightmares around this change. And a few really unhappy and bewildered people. As a whole, I'll take 4x any day of the week. > Don Brichta > Anadon Communications > Sharon, Mass. > dbrichta@aol.com * And, yes, the grayscale image problem *does not* show its ugly face if you use Acrobat 4x and screen settings. If you check the Advanced tab in the Screen settings, the Preserve OPI Comments box is unchecked. Whew. Got that off my chest. r|i|c|h _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 19-Jul-1999 20:04:35-GMT,2529;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA08974 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 14:04:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA15696; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 15:01:06 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 19 Jul 1999 14:59:33 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA15396; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 14:59:31 -0500 Message-Id: <199907191959.MAA41641@mail.inficad.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 12:59:22 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] .pdf files as a medium for press advertising From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >> I am working on a project in the United Kingdom that demands sending >> repro for small ads to a large number of newspapers. >> >> The suggestion is that we use Acrobat 4.0 PDFs as e-mail attachments. or ftp... >> Is this common? How widely are such files accepted by newspaper >> publishers? It's getting more common all the time. >> If we wanted to use colour - are the newspapers likely to have the >> means of producing separations? PDF files can be properly separated if linked to certain versions of Pagemaker files, and with Adobe's new InDesign software. PDF files cannot be properly separated from QuarkXPress. >> PAUL DAY >> CLEARFACE GROUP This is a great way to go, if the newspapers support the pdf platform. r|i|c|h ***Due to problems I have encountered, I do not recommend sending pdfs to papers that use AOL as their e-mail service. My experience here, is one gigantic headache. _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 19-Jul-1999 22:07:10-GMT,2150;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA12456 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 16:07:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA28497; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 17:03:42 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 19 Jul 1999 17:01:57 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA28188; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 17:01:55 -0500 X-Sender: prodok@pop.eunet.ch Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199907191648.LAA28125@everglades.binc.net> References: <1e8e122449%DavidOU@Gill.english.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 23:56:44 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Max Wyss Subject: Re: [PDF] OT: Framemaker viewer Cc: Kevin Chu Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Kevin, there used to be one; check the Adobe FTP server and see what can be downloaded. Hope, this can help. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch [ Bridging the Knowledge Gap ] ______________________ >Does anyone here know if htere is a shareware/freeware version of a viewer >for framemaker files? _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 19-Jul-1999 22:50:57-GMT,3384;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA13659 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 16:50:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA32205; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 17:47:18 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 19 Jul 1999 17:46:04 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA32041; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 17:46:02 -0500 Message-Id: <199907192245.PAA81583@mail.inficad.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 15:45:51 -0700 Subject: [PDF] PAGEMAKER DISTILLED PDF IMAGE PROBLEMS From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com, acrobat@blueworld.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ In the past few weeks a number of people have come forth with problems when distilling ps files for Press, which were made with Pagemaker 6.5x files. In working on my tech doc for how to create pdf files for Pagemaker (Mac) over the weekend, I rudely encountered the same problems: ---grayscale and colored tiff images which either disappeared (6.5.2) or were frozen in place (6.5). When I say frozen, PitStop wouldn't select the images, and QBox said they were Form X Objects (I got this backwards earlier). In fact, the problem caused my computer to choke. Then, today a post was made describing the exact same problem. I posted my reply -- since it may effect many people with Pagemaker -- to both lists. I am pleased to report Adobe responded within a *very* short period of time and asked me to send them both the ps file, and the offending pdf file for their review. The indication is that if a problem exists, it would be a high priority for them to fix. On a personal note, I wish to thank all the Adobe staffers who reside not in these lists' shadows, but who are in the trenches with the rest of us. While the individuals may not always have the answers we want, need, or want to hear, they are active and pro-active supporters of not only their products, but us, the users. I've been a Quark user for years. And I found their product to work better for me than Pagemaker (which is where I started many long years ago). But I'm looking forward to IN*D (InDesign). Quark has been a terrific product...but their support and customer service is severely lacking. If a company provides me with a superior product, and excellent customer service, then it's a slam dunk who will get my business. Even if I have to learn all over. r|i|c|h _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 20-Jul-1999 2:04:13-GMT,2238;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA18774 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 20:04:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA14682; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 20:58:09 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 19 Jul 1999 20:52:36 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA14222; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 20:52:34 -0500 Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 21:52:30 -0400 (EDT) X-Sender: kingkern@mail.eclipse.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199907151449.JAA20002@everglades.binc.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: jim kramer Subject: [PDF] PDF-produced EPS into, say, Quark Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I haven't tried this yet, but there is an extension on Quark's site: http://www.quark.com/files/xtquarkxts_40.html (I haven't tried it because I'm still afraid to install Quark 4...) jk > >Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 08:53:06 -0700 >From: "Rich Sprague" >Subject: Re: [PDF] Re: pdf-digest for July-14-99 [V2 #565] > >The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ >__________________________________________________________________ > >> Can you place a PDF-produced EPS into, say, Quark, and print separations >> from Quark? > >Nope. > >You can with Pagemaker and IN*D, but not with Quark. > > >r|i|c|h >_ _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 20-Jul-1999 2:10:54-GMT,2260;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA18921 for ; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 20:10:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA15426; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 21:06:33 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 19 Jul 1999 21:05:20 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA15339; Mon, 19 Jul 1999 21:05:19 -0500 Message-Id: <199907200205.TAA24594@mail.inficad.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 19:05:14 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF-produced EPS into, say, Quark From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > I haven't tried this yet, but there is an extension on Quark's site: > > http://www.quark.com/files/xtquarkxts_40.html > > (I haven't tried it because I'm still afraid to install Quark 4...) > > jk Read the fine print in the attached *pdf* file. Re: Quark PDF beta, which has been in Beta forever. You *cannot* print color separations from a pdf file imported into Quark. It'something to do with Level 2 ps problems. Quark 4, for the most part, is fine. Although it doesn't get along well with Adobe Type Reunion Deluxe (thus, it isn't too deluxe to me). I do like the print dialog boxes, and functions. Bring on IN*D and the spoils. r|i|c|h _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 20-Jul-1999 11:57:06-GMT,2456;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA03006 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 05:57:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA23166; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 06:53:21 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 20 Jul 1999 06:49:48 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA22751; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 06:49:46 -0500 X-Sender: dwill@mail.int.prolitho.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <199907151449.JAA20002@everglades.binc.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Dave Will Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF-produced EPS into, say, Quark Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 06:45:49 -0500 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ We have been placing eps files produced from PDF's into Quark 4 and running them to our Scitex Brisque without any difficulties. I know this isn't a solution for everyone but it does work quite well. regards, Dave Will >>Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 08:53:06 -0700 >>From: "Rich Sprague" >>Subject: Re: [PDF] Re: pdf-digest for July-14-99 [V2 #565] >>> Can you place a PDF-produced EPS into, say, Quark, and print separations >>> from Quark? >> >>Nope. >> >>You can with Pagemaker and IN*D, but not with Quark. >I haven't tried this yet, but there is an extension on Quark's site: > >http://www.quark.com/files/xtquarkxts_40.html > >(I haven't tried it because I'm still afraid to install Quark 4...) > >jk > >> Dave Will Data Communications Professional Litho dwill@prolitho.com 612.338.0400 _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 20-Jul-1999 14:06:42-GMT,2246;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA06173 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 08:06:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA01925; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 09:01:51 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 20 Jul 1999 08:58:35 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA01400; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 08:58:33 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990720100228.00921c00@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 10:02:28 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] PAGEMAKER DISTILLED PDF IMAGE PROBLEMS In-Reply-To: <199907192245.PAA81583@mail.inficad.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >In the past few weeks a number of people have come forth with problems when >distilling ps files for Press, which were made with Pagemaker 6.5x files. > A friend of mine on Compuserve ran into this problem as well. Like you, she found that EPS rather than TIFF solved it. ISTR that changing printer drivers did as well. Might be worth looking into. She's using Mac PM 6.5 also, by the way. Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 20-Jul-1999 14:45:15-GMT,2201;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA07316 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 08:45:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA06025; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 09:42:35 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 20 Jul 1999 09:41:13 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA05933; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 09:41:10 -0500 Message-id: Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 06:47:56 +0100 Subject: Re(2): [PDF] PDF-produced EPS into, say, Quark To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Cc: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: werner@rapidgraphics.com (Steve Werner) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ pdf@lists.pdfzone.com writes: >Read the fine print in the attached *pdf* file. Re: Quark PDF beta, which >has been in Beta forever. > >You *cannot* print color separations from a pdf file imported into Quark. >It'something to do with Level 2 ps problems. There's now a newer beta for Quark's PDF filter--1.3 Beta 1--available on the Quark Web site. In the "Problems Resolved in This Version" section of the accompanying PDF, it states: "The PDF Filter can now output separations for an imported PDF file." I'm going to do some testing this afternoon to see if that's true. I encourage others to try it out too and report their results. Best, ^Steve^ Steve Werner Training Manager Rapid Graphics San Francisco, CA _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 20-Jul-1999 14:52:22-GMT,2373;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA07546 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 08:52:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA06726; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 09:50:15 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 20 Jul 1999 09:49:06 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA06577; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 09:49:03 -0500 Message-ID: <37948D0C.9DFA6E09@abingdon.geoquest.slb.com> Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 15:51:56 +0100 From: Charles Hawtrey X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] OT: Framemaker viewer Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Kevin, There sure is a FrameMaker viewer, called FrameViewer, available at a small charge. Ask for the latest, version 5.5.6. In our experience resellers are not very helpful with supplying it unless pushed. See http://www.adobe.com/prodindex/framemaker/prodinfofv.html I have no experience of a 3rd party product. You'll probably come back to Acrobat, though, as you have to make for yourself the navigation buttons that AcroRead already has in a row across the top of the window. >From: Kevin Chu >Subject: [PDF] OT: Framemaker viewer > >Does anyone here know if htere is a shareware/freeware version of a viewer >for framemaker files? Charles Hawtrey tel.: 44(0)1235 54 34 40 Schlumberger mailto:chawtrey@abingdon.geoquest.slb.com _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 20-Jul-1999 15:07:52-GMT,3362;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA08023 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 09:07:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA08568; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 10:05:13 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 20 Jul 1999 10:03:36 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA08394; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 10:03:34 -0500 Message-Id: <199907201503.IAA40816@mail.inficad.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 08:03:30 -0700 Subject: Re: Re(2): [PDF] PDF-produced EPS into, say, Quark From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > There's now a newer beta for Quark's PDF filter--1.3 Beta 1--available on > the Quark Web site. In the "Problems Resolved in This Version" section of > the accompanying PDF, it states: "The PDF Filter can now output > separations for an imported PDF file." > > I'm going to do some testing this afternoon to see if that's true. I > encourage others to try it out too and report their results. Steve: I just started to do a cartwheel when I read the fine print and the compatibility problems about the newest Quark attempt to deal with PDF files. Note the third paragraph from their web site which says that you can't bleed pages with PDF files included. --------- PDF Filter 1.3 Beta 1 7/9/99 This beta QuarkXTensions software allows you to import pages of PDF files into QuarkXPress documents, and to export QuarkXPress documents in Portable Document Format (PDF). PDF Filter 1.3 Beta 1 is an update to PDF Filter 1.1. It contains interface enhancements, as well as a fix for the conflict between PDF Filter and Quark CMS QuarkXTensions software. Please note: PDF Filter 1.3 Beta 1 has been found to interfere with printing bleeds from QuarkXPress. Quark recommends that you disable PDF Filter 1.3 Beta 1 before sending documents containing bleeds to output devices. --------- And, unless they changed the way the xtension works, if you use the export feature you have to disable background printing (a pain). And... ***It also won't import Acrobat 4x pdfs.*** Why don't they just wait to release it until it works like it should? There again, this filter has been a millenium in coming, so perhaps they just want people to know they are trying. I don't think I'll try any more Quarkwheels, as they're hard on my back. r|i|c|h _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 20-Jul-1999 15:30:02-GMT,2472;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA08704 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 09:29:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA10782; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 10:27:27 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 20 Jul 1999 10:25:49 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA10604; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 10:25:48 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.5 Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 11:20:42 -0400 From: "Jeff Sauber" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] .pdf files as a medium for press advertising Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id KAA10600 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ R. Sprague: "Due to problems I have encountered, I do not recommend sending pdfs to papers that use AOL as their e-mail service. My experience here, is one gigantic headache." Why is that? I ask, because I've been having a bit of a problem with a PDF, created in Mac, sent from a GroupWise e-mail system to a client using some other MIME based (PC) e-mail system. The PDF in question isn't overly large--under a meg., but contains many graphic elements (x-objects?). The PDF doesn't open, and they get some sort of a warning about size limitations. We haven't had trouble with less complicated PDFs even though they were about the same size. Is it an e-mail incompatibility (their techies blame GroupWise), the size of the file, or just the nature of the beast? Thanks, Jeff Sauber S & S Adv. _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 20-Jul-1999 15:40:48-GMT,2895;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA09036 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 09:40:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA12115; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 10:38:32 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 20 Jul 1999 10:37:15 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA11903; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 10:37:07 -0500 Message-Id: <199907201537.IAA47987@mail.inficad.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 08:37:00 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] .pdf files as a medium for press advertising From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > R. Sprague: > "Due to problems I have encountered, I do not recommend sending pdfs to > papers that use AOL as their e-mail service. My experience here, is one > gigantic headache." > > Why is that? I ask, because I've been having a bit of a problem with a PDF, > created in Mac, sent from a GroupWise e-mail system to a client using some > other MIME based (PC) e-mail system. The PDF in question isn't overly > large--under a meg., but contains many graphic elements (x-objects?). The > PDF doesn't open, and they get some sort of a warning about size > limitations. We haven't had trouble with less complicated PDFs even though > they were about the same size. Is it an e-mail incompatibility (their > techies blame GroupWise), the size of the file, or just the nature of the > beast? Jeff: I've had zero (that's no, none, nada) trouble sending uncompressed pdfs via (here it comes) Outlook Express using Apple Double encoding. At one point, I was having nothing but trouble sending pdfs to PCs using mime and every other encoding method imaginable. Apple Double solved the compatibility problem. Some ISPs limit the size of e-mail attachments, which could be another problem, resolved by using ftp or having the offending pdf plucked off your website. r|i|c|h _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 20-Jul-1999 15:56:46-GMT,2518;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA09484 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 09:56:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA13902; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 10:52:50 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 20 Jul 1999 10:51:24 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA13745; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 10:51:23 -0500 Message-id: Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 07:58:05 +0100 Subject: Re(2): Re(2): [PDF] PDF-produced EPS into, say, Quark To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Cc: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: werner@rapidgraphics.com (Steve Werner) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ pdf@lists.pdfzone.com writes: >And, unless they changed the way the xtension works, if you use the export >feature you have to disable background printing (a pain). And... > >***It also won't import Acrobat 4x pdfs.*** > >Why don't they just wait to release it until it works like it should? >There >again, this filter has been a millenium in coming, so perhaps they just >want >people to know they are trying. > >I don't think I'll try any more Quarkwheels, as they're hard on my back. To be fair, it's not all Quark's fault. They rely on the PDF Library, supplied by Adobe, to do the import and export functions. I've been in communication with their QA people about the filter for some time. They're waiting for an updated PDF Library from Adobe to be able to support Acrobat 4x PDFs reliably. You can save with Acrobat 3 compatibility, however. They really are trying now (I think there was a change of heart on this issue)...and I have personal knowledge that Tim Gill is personally pushing the project. Best, ^Steve^ _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 20-Jul-1999 16:28:54-GMT,4700;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA10462 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 10:28:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA17260; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 11:25:19 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 20 Jul 1999 11:23:36 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA17113; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 11:23:35 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] .pdf files as a medium for press advertising Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 17:23:20 +0100 Message-ID: <001f01bed2cc$2f5ae540$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > R. Sprague: > "Due to problems I have encountered, I do not recommend > sending pdfs to > papers that use AOL as their e-mail service. My experience > here, is one > gigantic headache." > > Why is that? I ask, because I've been having a bit of a > problem with a PDF... I would strongly advise against the use of e-mail for submitting time-critical advertising, and if I was either a creator or producer I'd refuse to use it. Why? Several reasons. One is that e-mail is far from 100% compatible. Each e-mail program has a favourite format, a choice of sending formats, and the formats it can accept. These do not always match up. With patience and practice, this can be overcome, if both parties are willing to set a standard and practice before sending anything important. Second, e-mail often has size limitations if someone is using a standard ISP to handle mail. I would hope a newspaper would use something more serious than AOL, but most have some kind of limit. Designers notoriously do not know the size of their work and will as happily try to send 100M as 100K. Third, Even without size limits, most receivers can typically receive only one message at a time, and do not want late urgent advertising to get stuck behind a monster for next week. Fourth, e-mail is not real-time. We are used to messages arriving almost instantly, but e-mail is designed to be "stored and forwarded". The slightest temporary interruption will cause a file to be delayed for an hour or sent to a holding server that may send it on eventually. That is not suitable for time critical material. Recently my ISP had a backlog of up to three days on e-mail. This is unusual but it happens, and who wants to be responsible for this. E-mail is completely unaccountable between sending and receieving: it is impossible to find where it is stuck, or who might fix it. For all of these reasons, e-mail should not be considered. A reliable real-time point-to-point connection is needed. Couriers are good, but costly and a little slow. ISDN point-to-point links are good, though they tie up the receiver's and sender's line. If we want to use the internet, the main current solution is FTP. Sure this is a little more effort for the receiver to set up: the receiver might even want to get technical assistance to do it, but professionals should not consider anything less. If the receiver has a permanent internet connection they can and should host the FTP server. There is no excuse not to do this where connection charges are low, as in much of the USA. Outside the USA things may be different, e.g. in the UK an internet line would be at least $700 a month. In this case, a hosting service is probably the answer (they hold the FTP files until you collect). In all cases you should consider redundancy too. Often people set up wonderful systems, based on a single computer or line, but with no alternative plan. Aandi _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 20-Jul-1999 16:59:05-GMT,2177;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA11511 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 10:59:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA20050; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 11:54:40 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 20 Jul 1999 11:53:16 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA19924; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 11:53:09 -0500 Message-ID: <002d01bed2c8$0f33d5a0$14e57ad1@mcglinn> From: "Kathy McGlinn" To: Subject: [PDF] Missing Gray Shading & Font Problem Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 12:53:47 -0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ All, Two problems: 1. I'm using Frame 5.5.6 and Adobe Acrobat 4. When using the Distiller, the output looks fine on the screen, but when I print the .pdf file, gray shading in the tables is gone. I'm printing to an HP 5 si/mx LaserJet printer. Also, when printing directly from Frame to printer gray is ok. 2. Also, after upgrading to Acrobat 4, I've found that when I'm printing from Frame to my HP 5, postscript characters to not align properly and are sometimes are missing. Any thoughts? Thanks _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 20-Jul-1999 17:03:41-GMT,2398;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA11681 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 11:03:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA20822; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 12:01:37 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 20 Jul 1999 12:00:26 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA20512; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 12:00:25 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.5 Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 12:57:33 -0400 From: "Jeff Sauber" To: Subject: Re: RE: [PDF] .pdf files as a medium for press advertising Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id MAA20508 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Aandi Inston: "I would strongly advise against the use of e-mail for submitting time-critical advertising, and if I was either a creator or producer I'd refuse to use it." I agree absolutely. In my case, the e-mailed PDFs were merely proofs in progress. I am interested in hearing about other folk's experiences with technical incompatibilities, because that seems to be what I'm facing here, & I'd like to share as much info as possible. It appears to me that my PDF exceeded some internal limit of the MIME format, but another school of thought is that our e-mail systems (mine & the client's) have an incompatibility. For any serious business, it is extremely unwise to use e-mail for anything. Thanks, Jeff _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 20-Jul-1999 17:04:29-GMT,2129;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA11705 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 11:04:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA20925; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 12:02:22 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 20 Jul 1999 12:01:19 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA20792; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 12:01:18 -0500 Message-ID: <3794AB4A.47926C1F@i2000.es> Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 19:00:58 +0200 From: Alvaro de la Hera Martinez Organization: Interlinea2000 Comunicaciones, S.A. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [es] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Store PDF files in MS SQL Server 7.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hello, Does anyone store PDF files in a MS SQL Server 7.0 ? If so, what data type the field of the table was ? Image, text,... Thanks in advanced. -- A H | A H | Interlinea2000 Comunicaciones, S.A. AAAAHHHHMMMM | Gabiria,2 A A M M | 20.305 Irun AAAA M | Guipuzcoa (Spain) | Phone: 34 43 621033 Alvaro de la Hera Martinez | Fax: 34 43 627340 _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 20-Jul-1999 17:19:56-GMT,2861;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA12300 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 11:19:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA22335; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 12:16:53 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 20 Jul 1999 12:15:18 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA22190; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 12:15:17 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.5 Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 13:10:29 -0400 From: "Robert Blackberg" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] .pdf files as a medium for press advertising Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id MAA22186 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >>> "Jeff Sauber" 07/20/99 11:20AM >>> >Why is that? I ask, because I've been having a bit of a problem with a PDF, created in Mac, sent from a GroupWise e-mail system to a client using some other MIME based (PC) e-mail system. The PDF in question isn't overly large--under a meg., but contains many graphic elements (x-objects?). The PDF doesn't open, and they get some sort of a warning about size limitations. We haven't had trouble with less complicated PDFs even though they were about the same size. Is it an e-mail incompatibility (their techies blame GroupWise), the size of the file, or just the nature of the beast? Well, in the past our department used Macs and the rest of the company used PCs, and we were all on Groupwise. We had problems sending ANY attached file to other people in the same office if they were on a PC. I believe that the problem had to do with the encoding Groupwise was performing on attachments, and we solved the problem by turning the encoding off (If I remeber correctly, it was a while ago). We don't use Macs now (sigh), or I'd try to recreate the problem for you. Robert Blackberg Fiserv CBS _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 20-Jul-1999 17:40:30-GMT,2479;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA13083 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 11:40:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA24342; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 12:37:26 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 20 Jul 1999 12:35:55 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA24143; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 12:35:54 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.5 Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 13:35:09 -0400 From: "Jeff Sauber" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] .pdf files as a medium for press advertising Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id MAA24139 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ "Well, in the past our department used Macs and the rest of the company used PCs, and we were all on Groupwise. We had problems sending ANY attached file to other people in the same office if they were on a PC. I believe that the problem had to do with the encoding Groupwise was performing on attachments, and we solved the problem by turning the encoding off (If I remeber correctly, it was a while ago). We don't use Macs now (sigh), or I'd try to recreate the problem for you." -- Robert Blackberg Fiserv CBS Thanks for the response. I can't speak for everyone in my company. but I haven't had much trouble sending other attachments cross-platform, either within or outside of the company. The particular PDF situation that I described just has us & the client stumped. Thanks again, Jeff _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 20-Jul-1999 17:50:04-GMT,2667;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA13420 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 11:50:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA25388; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 12:48:04 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 20 Jul 1999 12:46:54 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA25214; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 12:46:53 -0500 Message-ID: <001101bed2d7$9fef1500$0100a8c0@marknet> From: "Mark A. Urquhart-Webb" To: References: <001f01bed2cc$2f5ae540$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> Subject: Re: [PDF] .pdf files as a medium for press advertising Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 10:44:55 -0700 Organization: Uniplex Software, Inc. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ One more possibility - Use one of the Web companies who give you free web-based file storage. for example Free DiskSpace at http://www.freediskspace.com will give you 25 MB of disk storage, permanently on line for free. So, you can upload your files to the web disk, inform the newspaper about the location of the file and they can download it in their own time. Elegant or what? Mark Urquhart-Webb, Uniplex Software, Inc. http://www.uniplex.com I use a Linux version of, Uniplex UBS Word processor, printing with a modified PostScript driver (including lots of PDFMark inserts for cropping, titles, page names) to a filesystem advertised to NETBui via SAMBA, the PS files are picked up by Distiller running on a Win98 system and viewed using Acrobat 4. Every user guide, install guide and other manual we distribute is available via PDF from our web site. _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 20-Jul-1999 18:37:09-GMT,2470;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA15007 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 12:37:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA30042; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 13:33:32 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 20 Jul 1999 13:31:44 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA29823; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 13:31:42 -0500 Message-Id: <199907201831.LAA88156@mail.inficad.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 11:31:29 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Missing Gray Shading & Font Problem From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com CC: kmcglinn@erols.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > 1. I'm using Frame 5.5.6 and Adobe Acrobat 4. When using the Distiller, the > output looks fine on the screen, but when I print the .pdf file, gray > shading in the tables is gone. I'm printing to an HP 5 si/mx LaserJet > printer. Also, when printing directly from Frame to printer gray is ok. Send me a one-page pdf, I'll pre-flight it *and* try to replicate your problem on my printer, and report back to you. Rich ---------------------------------------------------------------- Rich Sprague PDF Solutions/Consulting (480) 860-0050 Print Management & Production richsprague@inficad.com 4-Color Digital Printing http://www.inficad.com/~richsprague Sheetfed & Web Printing *38* years experience ---------------------------------------------------------------- _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 20-Jul-1999 18:40:44-GMT,2941;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA15116 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 12:40:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA30327; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 13:36:07 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 20 Jul 1999 13:34:59 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA30185; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 13:34:58 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990720143839.008757b0@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 14:38:39 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] .pdf files as a medium for press advertising In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >Why is that? I ask, because I've been having a bit of a problem with a PDF, created in Mac, sent from a GroupWise e-mail system to a client using some other MIME based (PC) e-mail system. The PDF in question isn't overly large--under a meg., but contains many graphic elements (x-objects?). The PDF doesn't open, and they get some sort of a warning about size limitations. We haven't had trouble with less complicated PDFs even though they were about the same size. Is it an e-mail incompatibility (their techies blame GroupWise), the size of the file, or just the nature of the beast? > Could be any of several things. If the mail software attempts to send the PDF as a macBinary file, the software on the PC won't be able to deal with it w/o surgery. It may have been corrupted by email somewhere along the line. That can happen. Fundamentally, email is a lousy way to send binary files. By some miracle or other it generally works fairly well for most people, but it wasn't designed for that purpose, and it shows. As has been pointed out, ftp is a better solution on the whole. Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 20-Jul-1999 18:55:01-GMT,3188;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA15640 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 12:55:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA31849; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 13:51:12 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 20 Jul 1999 13:49:09 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA31482; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 13:49:07 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990720145300.00879da0@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 14:53:00 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: RE: [PDF] .pdf files as a medium for press advertising In-Reply-To: <001f01bed2cc$2f5ae540$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > >Why? Several reasons. > As always, good info succinctly stated, Aandi. When we first began converting our ZAP! software from BBS to internet-enabled, we went with FTP for the file transfer end of things for just these (and other) reasons. There's a diatribe about email file transfers on my site at http://www.rdpslides.com/sendfile.htm in case anyone wants to read about the evils of email from the service bureau/recipient's POV. ;-) The other problem with email (or bbs or ftp, for that matter) is that it's all but impossible to get the sender to supply all the information needed to process the file at the receiving end. Or to combine all the files in the order into a single compressed archive. This was the reason for ZAP! in the first place, actually. We simply don't enable the SEND button until the user's given us all the information we need. Saves wear and tear on the humans at our end. Lest this be taken as advertisement, I only brought ZAP! into it for this reason: ZAP! is geared to the needs of service bureaus primarily, but we're considering other versions that meet the needs of other industries. I'd be happy to chat with any list members about their particular needs for this type of internet-based file xmission software. Off list, of course. Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 20-Jul-1999 18:57:10-GMT,2412;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA15674 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 12:57:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA31984; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 13:52:32 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 20 Jul 1999 13:51:25 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA31865; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 13:51:24 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990720145514.0087aad0@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 14:55:14 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: RE: [PDF] .pdf files as a medium for press advertising In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >I am interested in hearing about other folk's experiences with technical incompatibilities, because that seems to be what I'm facing here, & I'd like to share as much info as possible. It appears to me that my PDF exceeded some internal limit of the MIME format, but another school of thought is that our e-mail systems (mine & the client's) have an incompatibility. > This particular PDF was on the order of a megabyte, wasn't it? If it's not proprietary and you'd like to shoot me a copy, I'd be interested in having a look at what comes in at this end. Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 20-Jul-1999 22:42:27-GMT,1985;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA22307 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 16:42:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA22346; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 17:39:06 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 20 Jul 1999 17:37:04 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA22027; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 17:37:00 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.5 Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 17:36:32 -0500 From: "Paul Kevin Schulte" To: Subject: [PDF] Re: OT: Framemaker viewer - Reply Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Kevin, >Does anyone here know if there is a shareware/freeware version of a viewer for framemaker files? What you may be looking for is FrameViewer. Go to this URL and explore it yourself. http://www.adobe.com/prodindex/framemaker/prodinfofv.html It does cost $29 a license, unless you get a sufficient volume to get a discount. But, the Acrobat Reader is really the free viewer for FrameMaker as well as a whole lot of other files. $0 always beats $29. Paul K. Schulte Medtronic, Inc. A Unix FrameUser _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 20-Jul-1999 23:03:57-GMT,2121;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA22952 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 17:03:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA25028; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 18:01:35 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 20 Jul 1999 18:00:11 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA24658; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 18:00:05 -0500 Message-ID: <97B11CC2DFF7D211A7D30050041EA7700C7EC9@keg.aus.frco.com> From: "Riley, Ron [FRS/AUS]" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Cc: "Riley, Ron [FRS/AUS]" Subject: [PDF] If-then-else? Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 17:04:00 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I'm trying to figure out how to check for the existence of a file (not a pdf file) and then based on whether the file exists or not, execute another file. I have figured out how to create a link to execute a file, but the rest of it is beyond me. I'm using Word PRINT fields to program postscript as shown in the excerpt from Thomas Merz's book that is available on pdfzone. Can someone point me to examples on how I might accomplish this? Thanks Ron Riley Ron.Riley@Austin.frco.com _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 20-Jul-1999 23:15:50-GMT,2141;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA23266 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 17:15:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA26194; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 18:12:35 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 20 Jul 1999 18:11:24 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA26081; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 18:11:23 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] If-then-else? Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 00:11:03 +0100 Message-ID: <003d01bed305$237c52c0$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <97B11CC2DFF7D211A7D30050041EA7700C7EC9@keg.aus.frco.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > I'm trying to figure out how to check for the existence of a > file (not a pdf > file) and then based on whether the file exists or not, > execute another > file. You may be out of luck. The basic functions of Acrobat have no conditions like this. And JavaScript, which may seem promising, has absolutetly no way to access the filing system (for security reasons). Aandi _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 21-Jul-1999 0:29:48-GMT,2283;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA25063 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 18:29:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA00324; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 19:24:36 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 20 Jul 1999 19:20:22 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA32634; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 19:20:20 -0500 Message-Id: <199907210020.RAA29897@dodo.prod.itd.earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 17:20:30 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] If-then-else? From: "C. Scott Miller" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > I have figured out how to create a link to execute a file, but the rest of > it is beyond me. > > I'm using Word PRINT fields to program postscript as shown in the excerpt > from Thomas Merz's book that is available on pdfzone. > > Can someone point me to examples on how I might accomplish this? You might need an intermediate executable that can help you script and execute install instructions. If so, then visit 20/20 Software's site and read up on PC-Install http://www.twenty.com/pci/pci2idx.html. WIN only. -- HTH, C. Scott Miller PDF R_e_s_e_a_r_c_h__C_o_m_p_a_n_i_o_n A Designer's Guide to Adobe's Portable Document Format http://www.performancegraphics.com _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 21-Jul-1999 4:59:00-GMT,2817;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA01339 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 22:58:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA22085; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 23:55:35 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 20 Jul 1999 23:52:07 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA21878; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 23:52:04 -0500 Message-Id: <199907210452.XAA16879@mailgw01.execpc.com> Subject: [PDF] PDFs from Mac to PC Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 23:54:28 -0500 x-sender: wordwise@mail.execpc.com x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: Pwordwise To: "PDF Lists" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi- I do a lot of donated work for my church, a non-profit institute run by a friend, and other places. Enjoy the work and find it worthwhile -- but I'm in major frustration trying to send files from my Mac to their mostly PCs. I'm trying to get everyone standardized on PDFs, but even those are problematic. Sent them to three people this week and all three were at least initially unable to open them. That meant multiple sendings, long distance calls, and time spent that isn't very productive. I use Acrobat 4, usually saving in 3 format for compatibility. I use Claris Em@iler 2.0v3 with Mac OS8.6. I read somewhere that Apple Double was the best choice, though my multiple tests include Service Default. Sometimes I compress. Sometimes I pre-Stuff. Sometimes I use Zip It to give the file PC compression before attaching. The biggest gap is that I'm so Mac-oriented that I'm not able to tell my not-computer-pros friends & associates what they need to have and need to do to deal with attachments. Can someone please point me toward some fairly comprehensive info on this topic? I owe it to myself and my non-profit "clients" to make this process more reliable. TIA. Chuck Miller wordwise@execpc.com Appleton WI USA _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 21-Jul-1999 5:27:00-GMT,4018;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA01974 for ; Tue, 20 Jul 1999 23:26:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA24125; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 00:23:42 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 21 Jul 1999 00:22:30 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA24034; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 00:22:29 -0500 Message-ID: <000d01bed338$9f855fa0$324370d8@concentric.net> From: "M. Olenick" To: References: <199907210452.XAA16879@mailgw01.execpc.com> Subject: Re: [PDF] PDFs from Mac to PC Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 22:19:34 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi -- This comes up occasionally. Macs terminate their lines with one character whereas PC's terminate them with another. This doesn't matter inside a PDF except that when a file is transferred from a Mac to a PC (or the other way) sometimes the translation program does odd things to these special characters that corrupts the PDF. Always make sure you do a "binary" transfer and things should work fine. Michael. ----- Original Message ----- From: Pwordwise To: PDF Lists Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 1999 9:54 PM Subject: [PDF] PDFs from Mac to PC > > The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > > Hi- > > I do a lot of donated work for my church, a non-profit institute run by a > friend, and other places. Enjoy the work and find it worthwhile -- but > I'm in major frustration trying to send files from my Mac to their mostly > PCs. I'm trying to get everyone standardized on PDFs, but even those are > problematic. Sent them to three people this week and all three were at > least initially unable to open them. That meant multiple sendings, long > distance calls, and time spent that isn't very productive. > > I use Acrobat 4, usually saving in 3 format for compatibility. I use > Claris Em@iler 2.0v3 with Mac OS8.6. I read somewhere that Apple Double > was the best choice, though my multiple tests include Service Default. > Sometimes I compress. Sometimes I pre-Stuff. Sometimes I use Zip It to > give the file PC compression before attaching. > > The biggest gap is that I'm so Mac-oriented that I'm not able to tell my > not-computer-pros friends & associates what they need to have and need to > do to deal with attachments. > > Can someone please point me toward some fairly comprehensive info on this > topic? I owe it to myself and my non-profit "clients" to make this > process more reliable. TIA. > > > Chuck Miller > wordwise@execpc.com > Appleton WI USA > > > _ > ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ > <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> > <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> > ___________________________________________________________ > _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 21-Jul-1999 7:26:58-GMT,3212;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA04886 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 01:26:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA31762; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 02:21:22 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 21 Jul 1999 02:19:46 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA31497; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 02:19:44 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] PDFs from Mac to PC Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 08:19:37 +0100 Message-ID: <003e01bed349$646b9cc0$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <199907210452.XAA16879@mailgw01.execpc.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > I do a lot of donated work for my church, a non-profit > institute run by a > friend, and other places. Enjoy the work and find it > worthwhile -- but > I'm in major frustration trying to send files from my Mac to > their mostly > PCs. I'm trying to get everyone standardized on PDFs, but > even those are > problematic. Sent them to three people this week and all > three were at > least initially unable to open them. That meant multiple > sendings, long > distance calls, and time spent that isn't very productive. Your experiences are not unusual. E-mail programs have different ideas about how to send and read attachments (a sort of VHS/Betamax thing if you can remember that far back). There are settings which are more likely to work (MIME) and less (Macbinary), but there is definitely no method which one can say "use this, it will work for everyone". Each case can probably be made to work with tweaking (yours, theirs, or both) but this takes your time and can reflect badly on you. For this reason I have a blanket recommendation: do not use e-mail to get a PDF file to a large group of people with unknown e-mail systems. In fact, you can take "PDF" out of that message: it applies to any kind of attachment. I recommend setting up a web server. This is not without its problems, but overall you will probably waste less time of yours and your recipients that way. Plus, you are spending less time e-mailing files. Aandi _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 21-Jul-1999 9:20:50-GMT,2278;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA07490 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 03:20:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA06071; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 04:16:37 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 21 Jul 1999 04:14:34 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA05962; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 04:14:33 -0500 Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 10:09:21 +0100 From: David Graddol To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Duplicate embedded fonts Message-ID: X-Organization: The Open University X-Mailer: Messenger v1.40d for RISC OS MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I have a fonts query. We have a PDF document (with many internal links and enhancements) which requires custom versions with different preliminary pages and end pages. I have prepared the main book, and have inserted the necessary new front and end matter. The problem is that this process leads to duplicate font sets being embedded - so we end up with some fonts being defined three times in the final document. Question 1: Is there any way to remove duplicate fonts from a document, or to force inserted pages to use fonts which are already in the document? The new front and end matter can be redistilled if necessary. The main pages are now in PDF and we cannot return to postscript level with these. Thanks, David _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 21-Jul-1999 9:34:28-GMT,2895;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA07803 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 03:34:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA07170; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 04:31:59 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 21 Jul 1999 04:30:52 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA06937; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 04:30:51 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Duplicate embedded fonts Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 10:30:43 +0100 Message-ID: <004001bed35b$b54f2460$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > I have a fonts query. We have a PDF document (with many internal > links and enhancements) which requires custom versions with > different preliminary pages and end pages. I have prepared the > main book, and have inserted the necessary new front and end > matter. > > The problem is that this process leads to duplicate font sets > being embedded - so we end up with some fonts being defined three > times in the final document. > > Question 1: Is there any way to remove duplicate fonts from a > document, or to force inserted pages to use fonts which are > already in the document? The new front and end matter can be > redistilled if necessary. The main pages are now in PDF and we > cannot return to postscript level with these. When you use Document > Insert pages Acrobat specifically does a search to eliminate duplicate embedded fonts. It can only eliminate fonts if they are not subsetted. So, if you are using font subsets, you should stop doing so if you plan to combine files. It is now too late to remedy existing files. If you are not using subsets, there should be no duplication - are you sure that there is? Aandi _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 21-Jul-1999 10:14:05-GMT,1878;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA08650 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 04:14:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA09588; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 05:10:40 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 21 Jul 1999 05:09:23 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA09513; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 05:09:22 -0500 Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 12:00:24 +0200 From: Gerhard Diedericks Subject: [PDF] Reader 4 with Search available In-reply-to: <3.0.5.32.19990614182557.0089ea00@pop.iglou.com> To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-id: <000001bed360$a4a12d20$c91ba8c0@gola> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Importance: Normal X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ It seems that PDFZone is not aware that Reader 4 with search is available from the Adobe site - or am I mistaken _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 21-Jul-1999 11:02:59-GMT,2031;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA09703 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 05:02:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA12775; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 05:58:56 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 21 Jul 1999 05:57:23 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA12658; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 05:57:13 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Reader 4 with Search available Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 11:57:00 +0100 Message-ID: <004801bed367$c2b84120$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <000001bed360$a4a12d20$c91ba8c0@gola> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > It seems that PDFZone is not aware that Reader 4 with search > is available > from the Adobe site - or am I mistaken I don't think ANYBODY knew. The installers were only built on Monday, and loaded to the site on Tuesday... perhaps an announcement was coming. Aandi _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 21-Jul-1999 11:15:45-GMT,1968;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA10011 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 05:15:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA13857; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 06:13:04 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 21 Jul 1999 06:11:56 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA13753; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 06:11:55 -0500 Message-Id: <199907211111.EAA80402@mail.inficad.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 04:11:53 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Reader 4 with Search available From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >> It seems that PDFZone is not aware that Reader 4 with search >> is available from the Adobe site - or am I mistaken > > I don't think ANYBODY knew. The installers were only built on > Monday, and loaded to the site on Tuesday... perhaps an > announcement was coming. > > Aandi It has not been announced yet. A good snoop might be able to find it. r|i|c|h _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 21-Jul-1999 11:35:15-GMT,2030;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA10427 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 05:35:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA15168; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 06:32:09 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 21 Jul 1999 06:30:50 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA14889; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 06:30:49 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: sjveloff@mailbag.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <000001bed360$a4a12d20$c91ba8c0@gola> References: <000001bed360$a4a12d20$c91ba8c0@gola> Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 06:31:03 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Veloff Subject: Re: [PDF] Reader 4 with Search available Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >It seems that PDFZone is not aware that Reader 4 with search is available >from the Adobe site - or am I mistaken We were VERY aware of it. We could not announce it before Adobe, of course. They are on PDFzone.com and ready for download now. An official announcement is coming yet this morning. Steve Veloff Web Developer PDFzone.com - http://www.pdfzone.com/ sjveloff@pdfzone.com _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 21-Jul-1999 11:43:27-GMT,3088;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA10630 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 05:43:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA15632; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 06:40:40 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 21 Jul 1999 06:39:35 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA15548; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 06:39:34 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: kfoss@mailbag.com Message-Id: Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 06:42:50 -0500 To: PDF@lists.pdfzone.com From: Kurt Foss Subject: [PDF] NEW> Acrobat Reader 4.0 with Search for Mac & Windows Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ === JUST RELEASED === With the release today of new versions of its Acrobat Reader 4.0 software that include the "Search" plug-ins, Adobe Systems now offers advanced searching capabilities to Macintosh and Windows users of its latest free PDF viewing and printing tool. Versions for Unix were released previously. The new versions are now available from PDFzone.com in several languages: * Apple Macintosh versions as either .bin (5259 kb) or .hqx (7136 kb) files * Microsoft Windows version as an .exe (6334 kb) file. URL = http://www.pdfzone.com/ "Reader with Search" is an expanded version of Adobe's free Reader software, adding two additional plug-ins that allow one to search a collection of indexed PDF files on a CD-ROM or a local file system. These indexes must be created with Acrobat Catalog, part of the full commercial Acrobat program. NOTE: It does _NOT_ provide the ability to search PDF files across the Internet; however, an author can create an index and provide that for downloading along with a set of PDF files. Copies of "Reader 4.0 with Search" can be freely distributed as long as each copy contains Adobe's Electronic End-User License Agreement and the related copyright and other proprietary notices. Visit PDFzone.com to download the free "Reader with Search," and/or to get more information and links to relevant tips and examples. ______________ ### _________________ ________________________________________________________ Kurt Foss | http://www.pdfzone.com/ _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 21-Jul-1999 11:48:50-GMT,1990;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA10772 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 05:48:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA15629; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 06:40:36 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 21 Jul 1999 06:39:31 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA15521; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 06:39:30 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Reader 4 with Search available Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 12:39:23 +0100 Message-ID: <004901bed36d$ae436160$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <199907211111.EAA80402@mail.inficad.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > It has not been announced yet. A good snoop might be able to find it. It doesn't take much. http://www.adobe.com/acrobat/readstep.html has now been updated (perhaps redesigned?). If you pick Reader+Search you get 4.0. Aandi _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 21-Jul-1999 11:57:33-GMT,2191;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA10937 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 05:57:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA16971; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 06:54:18 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 21 Jul 1999 06:52:48 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA16803; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 06:52:47 -0500 Message-Id: <199907211152.EAA83480@mail.inficad.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 04:52:45 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Reader 4 with Search available From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >> It has not been announced yet. A good snoop might be able to find it. > > It doesn't take much. http://www.adobe.com/acrobat/readstep.html has > now been updated (perhaps redesigned?). If you pick Reader+Search > you get 4.0. > > Aandi It will be announced today by Adobe, and for those checking out Aandi's link, you must check the little box at the bottom left column to get the Reader with Search (this is not that obvious). Timing is everything. A day or so ago you would have had to be looking around the ftp site and stumble across it. Today is a different story. r|i|c|h _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 21-Jul-1999 12:51:30-GMT,2300;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA12246 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 06:51:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA21200; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 07:47:21 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 21 Jul 1999 07:45:37 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA21025; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 07:45:36 -0500 Message-Id: <199907211245.FAA88981@mail.inficad.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 05:45:33 -0700 Subject: [PDF] PAGEMAKER 6.5.2 and PDF From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Okay, folks. It's my turn to ask for help. I'm using a Mac G3, OS 8.6. I've had zero luck on either of two machines (one a 7500 with a G3 board) with PM 6.5.2 and the pdf import filter 1.0. I reinstalled the software from 6.5 up. Put the filter files in the filter folder, deleted the required file, and still no luck. I get an unmapped memory exception and the program crashes every time I try to import a pdf. I shut the machine off and restarted with only the O/S extentions turned on...same result. Any ideas? I'm going through this hassle to try to help someone else who's having other problems with Pagemaker and pdf files, but I can't help him until I solve my own dilemma. Thanks. r|i|c|h _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 21-Jul-1999 13:07:59-GMT,2495;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA12619 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 07:07:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA22869; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 08:05:20 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 21 Jul 1999 08:04:07 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA22731; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 08:04:06 -0500 Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 14:02:49 +0100 From: David Graddol To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] Duplicate embedded fonts Message-ID: <8f5b1a2549%Support@Gill.english.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <004001bed35b$b54f2460$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> X-Organization: The English Company (UK) Ltd X-Mailer: Messenger v1.40d for RISC OS MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ "Aandi Inston" wrote: > > When you use Document > Insert pages Acrobat specifically does > a search to eliminate duplicate embedded fonts. It can only > eliminate fonts if they are not subsetted. > > So, if you are using font subsets, you should stop doing so if > you plan to combine files. It is now too late to remedy existing > files. If you are not using subsets, there should be no > duplication - are you sure that there is? > Thanks for this help, Aandi. Yes, I have fonts subsetted at 100%. At least I can try and prevent the problem in future! A thought did occur to me: if I ensure that all the new material (which contains such things as licence agreements) are in Helvetica and not embedded, am I always sure that the fonts will display and print properly for anyone with an Acrobat Reader? Regardless of platform? David _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 21-Jul-1999 13:23:10-GMT,2222;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA12990 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 07:23:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA24348; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 08:18:42 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 21 Jul 1999 08:17:18 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA24163; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 08:17:15 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Duplicate embedded fonts Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 14:17:00 +0100 Message-ID: <004b01bed37b$5197e5e0$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <8f5b1a2549%Support@Gill.english.co.uk> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > > A thought did occur to me: if I ensure that all the new material > (which contains such things as licence agreements) are in > Helvetica and not embedded, am I always sure that the fonts will > display and print properly for anyone with an Acrobat Reader? > Regardless of platform? That should produce the smallest files, and combine nicely. Bugs apart, the answer is yes. Helvetica does not need to be embedded, because each Reader must provide a copy. Aandi _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 21-Jul-1999 13:26:32-GMT,2713;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA13062 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 07:26:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA25080; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 08:23:57 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 21 Jul 1999 08:22:50 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA24944; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 08:22:49 -0500 Message-Id: <912D474F4F6FD2119ADB00902717752F27F369@IFCEX02NT> From: "LaBrecque, Sharyl IFC" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] Acrobat Forms Fill-in Plug-in 3.5 Update - English Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 09:19:51 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hello, Please if someone could help me to understand why, when loading the plugin for the Reader that allows you to fill in forms created with the filler plugin for Exchange, that you need to have the Acrobat software installed on your PC. I have some forms, such as company Expense Reports, that employees would like to have automatic calculation on. I can create them this way using the filler plugin for Exchange (I have Exchange loaded and licensed on my PC to do this), however I can't seem to make the filler plugin that goes with the Reader (which the whole company has) to work on the server without Acrobat installed there as well. I removed Acrobat from my PC to try it there and after I installed the filler plugin into the Reader app., I would get an error message when I tried to Read a pdf file, any pdf file at this point. It was a could not load the plugin Adobe Acrobat for the mime type pdf ....... Please help We need to be able to do this, so if someone has it set up already and can share there knowledge as to how to do it, I would be very greatful. Thanks in advance, Sharyl _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 21-Jul-1999 13:52:52-GMT,2126;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA13741 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 07:52:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA27878; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 08:48:32 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 21 Jul 1999 08:46:56 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA27621; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 08:46:55 -0500 Message-Id: <199907211346.IAA27616@everglades.binc.net> From: "Kitchen, James x1298" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Printing from Acrobat 4 Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 09:47:00 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ This is my first question, but I have been having problems printing a PDF file from Acrobat 4 (full version and reader) to our colour laser printer. I tried several test and it seems to be files that have True Type fonts. The postscript error I get is object in error awidthshow error invalidfont error description font name or font dictionary is in invalid format. I tried this from Acrobat 3 and it prints fine. I am using Win 95 Printing across a network Using a GENICOM Microlaser c4 (same as a QMS Magicolour CX) Please, does anyone have any ideas James Kitchen GENICOM _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 21-Jul-1999 14:13:19-GMT,3644;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA14345 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 08:13:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA30589; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 09:10:01 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 21 Jul 1999 09:08:48 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA30446; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 09:08:46 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Acrobat Forms Fill-in Plug-in 3.5 Update - English Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 15:08:37 +0100 Message-ID: <004c01bed382$87773ba0$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <912D474F4F6FD2119ADB00902717752F27F369@IFCEX02NT> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > Please if someone could help me to understand why, when > loading the plugin > for the Reader that allows you to fill in forms created with > the filler > plugin for Exchange, that you need to have the Acrobat > software installed on > your PC. I have some forms, such as company Expense Reports, > that employees > would like to have automatic calculation on. I can create > them this way > using the filler plugin for Exchange (I have Exchange loaded > and licensed on > my PC to do this), however I can't seem to make the filler > plugin that goes > with the Reader (which the whole company has) to work on the > server without > Acrobat installed there as well. I removed Acrobat from my > PC to try it > there and after I installed the filler plugin into the Reader > app., I would > get an error message when I tried to Read a pdf file, any pdf > file at this > point. It was a could not load the plugin Adobe Acrobat for > the mime type > pdf ....... I'm not completely sure what you are doing here. Acrobat Reader comes with a forms filler plug-in, and has done ever since 3.0. However, if you use calculations then the basic plug-in with Reader 3.0 or 3.01 will not support them. You need to do one of the following to support calculations: 1. Upgrade to Reader 4.0. 2. Upgrade to Reader 3.02. 3. Install the forms filler plug-in over 3.0 or 3.01 (but NOT any other release) being sure it goes into the Reader plug-ins folder. If you have this combination, it should definitely not be necessary to install the full Acrobat, except for the few functions not available in the free Reader (e.g. form export, e-mail submission, templates). So, start with a PC with neither Reader nor Exchange. Install Reader, and the forms filler if (and only if) the basic reader version is 3.0 or 3.01. Now, what exactly happens? Aandi _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 21-Jul-1999 14:36:54-GMT,2551;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA14978 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 08:36:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA00327; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 09:32:31 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 21 Jul 1999 09:31:13 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA00172; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 09:31:10 -0500 X-Sender: suec@tsmail.tshore.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199907210452.XAA16879@mailgw01.execpc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: suec@tshore.com (Sue Campbell) Subject: Re: [PDF] PDFs from Mac to PC Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 10:30:52 -0400 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >I'm in major frustration trying to send files from my Mac to their mostly >PCs. I'm trying to get everyone standardized on PDFs, but even those are >problematic. Sent them to three people this week and all three were at >least initially unable to open them. That meant multiple sendings, long >distance calls, and time spent that isn't very productive. > Just a reminder to watch naming conventions when transferring files from Mac to PC. We had some problems with Mac files using slashes in the name which caused the PC to look at it as a path and would not open the files. We took out the slashes and the files opened. This may not be your problem but something to keep in the back of your mind. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Sue Campbell Training & Production Coordinator Thomson-Shore, Inc. 734.426.6293 http://www.tshore.com "Obstacles are those frightful things you see when you take your eyes off your goals" -Unknown _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 21-Jul-1999 14:50:12-GMT,2272;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA15337 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 08:50:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA02061; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 09:47:45 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 21 Jul 1999 09:46:27 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA01783; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 09:46:23 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990721105020.0092f750@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 10:50:20 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] PAGEMAKER 6.5.2 and PDF In-Reply-To: <199907211245.FAA88981@mail.inficad.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > >It's my turn to ask for help. I'm using a Mac G3, OS 8.6. > Can't help much with the immediate problem, but you might be better off exporting EPS from Exchange to bring into PM than using PM's import. The former allows you to choose Level 2 EPS (MUCH smaller EPS files where bitmaps are concerned) and then you can link to the EPS on import to PM. Using PM's PDF import, you get a level 1 EPS, embedded in the PM document. Period. Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 21-Jul-1999 15:12:31-GMT,2100;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA15984 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 09:12:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA04707; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 10:09:57 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 21 Jul 1999 10:08:31 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA04569; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 10:08:28 -0500 From: "Thane Terrill" To: Subject: [PDF] Out Put Size in 4.0 Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 11:03:00 -0400 Message-ID: <000001bed38a$1ff8cfe0$b2e2a4d8@thane> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2232.26 In-Reply-To: <199907211446.JAA01802@everglades.binc.net> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I'm using a custom page size for a document I want to be "screen" size (6.5" x 5.18" in landscape orientation). When I use the distiller, I get a 8.5x11" size. I found that I could make this work using PDFwriter, but I saw no way to do this under distiller -- I did try the custom Postscript settings and it did not make any difference. Thank you, ==Thane _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 21-Jul-1999 15:26:10-GMT,2769;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA16400 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 09:26:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA06325; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 10:23:53 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 21 Jul 1999 10:22:48 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA06223; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 10:22:46 -0500 Message-Id: <912D474F4F6FD2119ADB00902717752F27F36A@IFCEX02NT> From: "LaBrecque, Sharyl IFC" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] RE: Acrobat Forms Fill-in (Aandi) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 11:19:40 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ You need to do one of the following to support calculations: 1. Upgrade to Reader 4.0. If you have this combination, it should definitely not be necessary to install the full Acrobat, except for the few functions not available in the free Reader (e.g. form export, e-mail submission, templates). So, start with a PC with neither Reader nor Exchange. Install Reader, and the forms filler if (and only if) the basic reader version is 3.0 or 3.01. Now, what exactly happens? Aandi Aandi, Thanks for the input. I took Acrobat off of my PC and loaded Reader 4.0. My Netscape application preferences now look like the following: Acrobat Extension: PDF MIME Type: application/pdf Handled By: Plugin and Adobe Acrobat Forms Document Extension: FDF MIME Type: application/vnd.fdf Handled By: ACRORD32 I went to our web site and opened up a form and found that I can't open any pdf files at all. The first time I click on a pdf file, the Reader Splash screen comes up and then nothing except alot of empty white space within my Browser window (Netscape 4.08). When I click on another pdf file, I don't even get that. All of our forms have pdf extensions on them. What am I doing wrong? Thanks, Sharyl _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 21-Jul-1999 15:26:14-GMT,2373;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA16406 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 09:26:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA06315; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 10:23:42 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 21 Jul 1999 10:22:22 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA06180; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 10:22:20 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 08:24:08 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] PDFs from Mac to PC From: "Todd Donahue" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Script: \\filterscript.mml Message-Id: <15221360125027@acquiredknowledge.com> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Chuck, > The biggest gap is that I'm so Mac-oriented that I'm not able to tell my > not-computer-pros friends & associates what they need to have and need to > do to deal with attachments. We have had extremely good luck using Microsoft's Outlook Express e-mail client on both the Mac and Windows. It is a free product and can be downloaded from Microsoft's web site. You might want to try standardizing with these e-mail clients. A few things to note: You should always add the .pdf extension to your files. Send your attachments with AppleDouble encoding. Good luck. -- Todd Donahue Acquired Knowledge Inc. todd@acquiredknowledge.com Creators of EZ-PDF "The easiest way to create PDF files for any use" http://www.acquiredknowledge.com _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 21-Jul-1999 15:28:41-GMT,2276;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA16523 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 09:28:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA06554; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 10:26:31 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 21 Jul 1999 10:25:26 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA06445; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 10:25:24 -0500 Message-Id: <199907211525.KAA06437@everglades.binc.net> Date: 21 Jul 99 11:24:35 -0400 From: Justin Blocksom Subject: RE: [PDF] Out Put Size in 4.0 To: pdf X-Mailer: QuickMail Pro 1.5.2 (Mac) X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-Ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id KAA06441 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Reply to: RE: [PDF] Out Put Size in 4.0 >I'm using a custom page size for a document I want to be "screen" size (6.5" >x 5.18" in landscape orientation). When I use the distiller, I get a 8.5x11" >size. I found that I could make this work using PDFwriter, but I saw no way >to do this under distiller -- I did try the custom Postscript settings and >it did not make any difference. > >==Thane Did you look under the "Advanced" tab in the Settings/Job Options menu and set the default page size to 6.5x5.18? Justin Blocksom Digital Production Group Printing & Publications Corp. jblocksom@printandpub.com _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 21-Jul-1999 15:40:52-GMT,2782;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA16886 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 09:40:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA08058; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 10:37:59 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 21 Jul 1999 10:36:24 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA07827; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 10:36:21 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] RE: Acrobat Forms Fill-in (Aandi) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 16:36:04 +0100 Message-ID: <005401bed38e$bf90b0a0$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <912D474F4F6FD2119ADB00902717752F27F36A@IFCEX02NT> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > Thanks for the input. I took Acrobat off of my PC and loaded > Reader 4.0.... > I went to our web site and opened up a form and found that I > can't open any > pdf files at all. The first time I click on a pdf file, the > Reader Splash > screen comes up and then nothing except alot of empty white > space within my > Browser window (Netscape 4.08). When I click on another pdf > file, I don't > even get that. All of our forms have pdf extensions on them. There seem to be a number of causes of blank PDF files - some internal (problems on your PC), some external (problems on a server or with a file). I don't know all of them by any means (so suggestions welcome). Try the following to start with. 1. Start Acrobat Reader before starting Netscape. Any good? 2. After getting a blank page, hit REFRESH. Any good? 3. Try using Netscape to open a PDF file from your hard disk rather than the net (File > Open page...Choose file...select PDF type and navigate to the file). Any good? Aandi _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 21-Jul-1999 15:48:55-GMT,2630;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA17086 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 09:48:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA09136; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 10:46:35 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 21 Jul 1999 10:45:15 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA08947; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 10:45:08 -0500 Message-Id: <199907211545.IAA19719@mail.inficad.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 08:44:55 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] PAGEMAKER 6.5.2 and PDF From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com CC: Macduff Hughes , Don Brichta Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >>It's my turn to ask for help. I'm using a Mac G3, OS 8.6. >> > > Can't help much with the immediate problem, but you might be better off > exporting EPS from Exchange to bring into PM than using PM's import. The > former allows you to choose Level 2 EPS (MUCH smaller EPS files where > bitmaps are concerned) and then you can link to the EPS on import to PM. > Using PM's PDF import, you get a level 1 EPS, embedded in the PM document. > Period. Steve: This is an excellent suggestion, which I had tried earlier (it bombed the first time) before I got down on my knees and posted this problem to the list. The second time around it worked. It is a solution for this chap's problem, but it doesn't allow me to replicate his original problem for tracking down with Adobe. However, I think Adobe has enough information now, and test files, to be able to react accordingly. Thank you for your continued postings, and assistance, with the posts. r|i|c|h _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 21-Jul-1999 15:59:37-GMT,2390;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA17369 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 09:59:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA10569; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 10:57:10 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 21 Jul 1999 10:55:56 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA10378; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 10:55:54 -0500 Message-Id: <912D474F4F6FD2119ADB00902717752F27F36B@IFCEX02NT> From: "LaBrecque, Sharyl IFC" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] RE: Acrobat Forms Fill-in (Aandi) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 11:53:34 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I don't know all of them by any means (so suggestions welcome). Try the following to start with. 1. Start Acrobat Reader before starting Netscape. Any good? 2. After getting a blank page, hit REFRESH. Any good? 3. Try using Netscape to open a PDF file from your hard disk rather than the net (File > Open page...Choose file...select PDF type and navigate to the file). Any good? Aandi REPLY: Aandi, Thanks suggestion number 3. worked incuding the calculations. Trouble is, I don't think this method will be exceptable to the users. Alot of work to open a file. The other suggestions didn't work unfortunately. If you find out how to get the browser to work right with this version of the Reader, I would love to hear how. Thank you for all your help! I really appreciate it. Sharyl _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 21-Jul-1999 16:08:05-GMT,2860;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA17737 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 10:08:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA11708; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 11:05:52 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 21 Jul 1999 11:04:36 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA11531; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 11:04:33 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 09:06:18 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Out Put Size in 4.0 From: "Todd Donahue" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Script: \\filterscript.mml Message-Id: <16042261726015@acquiredknowledge.com> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ ---------- >From: Justin Blocksom >To: pdf >Subject: RE: [PDF] Out Put Size in 4.0 >Date: Wed, Jul 21, 1999, 8:24 AM > > Reply to: RE: [PDF] Out Put Size in 4.0 >>I'm using a custom page size for a document I want to be "screen" size (6.5" >>x 5.18" in landscape orientation). When I use the distiller, I get a 8.5x11" >>size. I found that I could make this work using PDFwriter, but I saw no way >>to do this under distiller -- I did try the custom Postscript settings and >>it did not make any difference. >> >>==Thane > > Did you look under the "Advanced" tab in the Settings/Job Options menu and set > the default page size to 6.5x5.18? One thing to point out, the default page size setting in Distiller is only used if the PS file does not specify a page size. Thane, You didn't specify which platform or application you were using to output this file to Distiller. If you can specify a custom page size in the application for printing, you should be able to correctly output this file. -- Todd Donahue Acquired Knowledge Inc. todd@acquiredknowledge.com Creators of EZ-PDF "The easiest way to create PDF files for any use" http://www.acquiredknowledge.com _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 21-Jul-1999 16:20:14-GMT,2749;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA18090 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 10:20:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA12935; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 11:16:22 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 21 Jul 1999 11:14:43 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA12729; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 11:14:42 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] RE: Acrobat Forms Fill-in (Aandi) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 17:14:59 +0100 Message-ID: <005701bed394$2e1e22a0$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <912D474F4F6FD2119ADB00902717752F27F36B@IFCEX02NT> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > Try the following to start with. > > 1. Start Acrobat Reader before starting Netscape. Any good? > 2. After getting a blank page, hit REFRESH. Any good? > 3. Try using Netscape to open a PDF file from your hard disk > rather than the net (File > Open page...Choose file...select > PDF type and navigate to the file). Any good? > > Aandi > > > REPLY: > > Aandi, Thanks suggestion number 3. worked incuding the calculations. I assume it worked and viewed the file IN THE BROWSER WINDOW. Ok, we now know that Reader is working OK in Netscape, but that it is having trouble processing files from the network. Now, we need to find out why. I hope someone can give some suggestions here, it just works for me! Have you tried PDF files on a variety of sites - like mine, http://www.quite.com/acrobat/samples/? Are you accessing from a corporate network with a proxy server or firewall? Is it possible to try without those, going directly to a local web server? Aandi _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 21-Jul-1999 16:21:55-GMT,4509;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA18112 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 10:21:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA13136; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 11:17:30 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 21 Jul 1999 11:16:23 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA12933; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 11:16:21 -0500 X-Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated X-Division: Core Technologies X-Department: Product Interoperability Analysis X-URL: Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.19990721091331.00aac1d0@mail-303> X-Sender: isaacs@mail-303 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 09:15:44 -0700 To: "Kitchen, James x1298" From: Dov Isaacs Subject: Re: [PDF] Printing from Acrobat 4 Cc: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com In-Reply-To: <199907211346.IAA27616@everglades.binc.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=====================_63058381==_.ALT" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ --=====================_63058381==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 7/21/99 06:47 AM , Kitchen, James x1298 wrote: >This is my first question, but I have been having problems printing a PDF >file from Acrobat 4 (full version and reader) to our colour laser printer. > >I tried several test and it seems to be files that have True Type fonts. >The postscript error I get is >object in error awidthshow >error invalidfont >error description font name or font dictionary is in invalid format. > >I tried this from Acrobat 3 and it prints fine. > >I am using Win 95 >Printing across a network >Using a GENICOM Microlaser c4 (same as a QMS Magicolour CX) > > >Please, does anyone have any ideas > >James Kitchen >GENICOM The problem likely stems from QMS' emulation of PostScript Level 2. QMS does not license Adobe's software, but uses their own "UltraScript" code. See whether they have updated software. A workaround might be to set the driver to use "Type 1" or "outlines" for TrueType fonts. Quality might not be as good, but it may print. - Dov --=====================_63058381==_.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" At 7/21/99 06:47 AM , Kitchen, James x1298 wrote:
This is my first question, but I have been having problems printing a PDF
file from Acrobat 4 (full version and reader) to our colour laser printer.

I tried several test and it seems to be files that have True Type fonts.
The postscript error I get is
object in error       awidthshow
error                    invalidfont
error description    font name or font dictionary is in invalid format.

I tried this from Acrobat 3 and it prints fine.

I am using Win 95
Printing across a network
Using a GENICOM Microlaser c4  (same as a QMS Magicolour CX)


Please, does anyone have any ideas

James Kitchen
GENICOM

The problem likely stems from QMS' emulation of PostScript Level 2.
QMS does not license Adobe's software, but uses their own "UltraScript"
code. See whether they have updated software.

A workaround might be to set the driver to use "Type 1" or "outlines"
for TrueType fonts. Quality might not be as good, but it may print.

        - Dov --=====================_63058381==_.ALT-- _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 21-Jul-1999 16:28:32-GMT,2692;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA18317 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 10:28:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA14225; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 11:26:17 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 21 Jul 1999 11:24:57 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA14064; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 11:24:55 -0500 X-Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated X-Division: Core Technologies X-Department: Product Interoperability Analysis X-URL: Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.19990721092116.00ac5420@mail-303> X-Sender: isaacs@mail-303 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 09:23:52 -0700 To: "Thane Terrill" From: Dov Isaacs Subject: Re: [PDF] Out Put Size in 4.0 Cc: In-Reply-To: <000001bed38a$1ff8cfe0$b2e2a4d8@thane> References: <199907211446.JAA01802@everglades.binc.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ At 7/21/99 08:03 AM , Thane Terrill wrote: >I'm using a custom page size for a document I want to be "screen" size (6.5" >x 5.18" in landscape orientation). When I use the distiller, I get a 8.5x11" >size. I found that I could make this work using PDFwriter, but I saw no way >to do this under distiller -- I did try the custom Postscript settings and >it did not make any difference. > >Thank you, > >==Thane If you use the correct PPD for the Distiller AND you define a custom page size matching your needs AND you indicate to your application that this custom page size is the target page size AND your application program is not buggy, this should work perfectly fine. We certainly successfully use this feature on a regular basis with programs (both Adobe and others) here at Adobe. It does work. - Dov _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 21-Jul-1999 17:30:45-GMT,3036;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA20290 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 11:30:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA21807; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 12:27:50 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 21 Jul 1999 12:25:53 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA21440; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 12:25:50 -0500 Message-Id: <912D474F4F6FD2119ADB00902717752F27F36C@IFCEX02NT> From: "LaBrecque, Sharyl IFC" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] RE: Acrobat Forms Fill-in (Aandi) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 13:21:59 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I assume it worked and viewed the file IN THE BROWSER WINDOW. Ok, we now know that Reader is working OK in Netscape, but that it is having trouble processing files from the network. Now, we need to find out why. I hope someone can give some suggestions here, it just works for me! Have you tried PDF files on a variety of sites - like mine, http://www.quite.com/acrobat/samples/? Are you accessing from a corporate network with a proxy server or firewall? Is it possible to try without those, going directly to a local web server? Aandi Aandi, I tried the Haunted House on your site and it came up fine. Yes I am accessing via a proxy server with firewall, and I didn't at this time make any changes to the preferences in Netscape. Then I turned off the automatic proxy configuration in Netscape and specified a direct connection to the internet, but that didn't work either. I still couldn't see open our files in Netscape. I do however have a proxy server setup for Internet Explorer, but I have an exception listed to bypass the proxy server for the local intranet access and I was able to view our forms fine using I.E. Boy this is frustrating! Go figure that the company has requested that Netscape be our main browser and being in the Publications Department, we have to make available all of the docs and forms to the intranet, so I have to get this to work with Netscape as well. Thanks again for all your efforts. Sharyl _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 21-Jul-1999 22:07:46-GMT,4792;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA28376 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 16:07:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA22411; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 17:03:04 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 21 Jul 1999 17:00:38 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA22033; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 17:00:36 -0500 Message-Id: <199907212200.PAA06982@mail.inficad.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 15:00:28 -0700 Subject: [PDF] Re: Graphics file formats From: "Rich Sprague" To: Roger Jones CC: framers@frameusers.com, pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > Dear Framers > > Prompted by an exchange on one of the Acrobat lists, I thought the > following might be of interest to others. I have discovered that GIFs can > be used as imported graphics files in FrameMaker (5.5.6 on Win 95) without > any discernible loss of quality in comparison to equivalent TIFFs, but with > much smaller files. Specifically, I have scanned in monochrome line art at > 600 dpi using Photoshop 5 and my HP ScanJet 4c, saved as TIFF and then > saved as GIF. The TIFF file is 390k, the GIF 32k. My books typically have > dozens of such images, so the reduction in file size is significant. > > It's not just on my HP LaserJet 4+ that there is no output quality > difference. I have recently received finished copies of a whole book > containing GIFs. It went to the printer as PDFs, made by Distiller 3.02 > from PostScript files output through the Linotronic 330 driver. All the > images are fine. > > I guess this may surprise others as it did my correspondent on the Acrobat > list, who had never encountered anything of the sort in 12 years of > computer graphics experience and, like all of us (until I stumbled on the > solution that works for me), worked on the basis that GIFs and 72 dpi go > together never to be separated and that GIFs are therefore useless for > printed output. > > Perhaps someone can explain what's happening. Is it anything to do with > what was recently suggested to me as FrameMaker's unique behaviour in > handling imported graphics files with explicit (i.e. dialog box) reference > to dpi? I have noticed that the GIF defaults to 72dpi if imported before > any other graphics files; I simply change that to 600 dpi for the correct > size and image quality. If the corresponding TIFF is imported first, it > defaults to 600 dpi; then, the GIF does that too. I've never used Framemaker, so what Roger is saying is %$&*#@&% to me. However, when we were discussing this issue, I tried to save a 1-bit gif from Photoshop. Photoshop will not export a 1-bit image. I couldn't even print the darn thing from the Mac -- it totally barfed the machine -- so I ported it over to the PC and opened it in Corel Paint. A 300 dpi very small image on the Mac turned into a 72 dpi image that was 50 some-odd inches wide in Corel!!! It did print -- a very small portion of the letters "Now" that I had set in 72 pt. type filled a letter-sized page and more. I did not try working with this image in Pagemaker, but Quark wouldn't recognize it. Its import filter only deals with gif images that have been *exported* from ps and not saved as a gif. So what Roger seems to have found is something terrific for Framemaker...but I don't think it will ever be the boone to Quark and other programs/platforms as tiff has been. > In the unlikely event that it can't be explained, all I can say is that it > sure works for me, and I'm rather enjoying the prospect of saving 10Mb or > more on each book shipped down the wire to the printer. > > All the best > > Roger Jones, Publisher > Publishing@rjpc.demon.co.uk Thank you for the lesson and ride, Roger, it was interesting. r|i|c|h _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 21-Jul-1999 23:22:45-GMT,4184;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA29566 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 17:22:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA30783; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 18:18:23 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 21 Jul 1999 18:16:01 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA30516; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 18:15:58 -0500 X-Sender: prodok@pop.eunet.ch Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199907212200.PAA06982@mail.inficad.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 01:05:55 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Max Wyss Subject: Re: [PDF] Re: Graphics file formats Cc: "Rich Sprague" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Rich, the crucial point is indeed that the "File import" function of Framemaker has the option to arbitrarily set the resolution of the raster image you are placing. It does in fact something similar to the setting of the resolution function in Photoshop, where you simply change that number, and only the physical dimension values of the image change. The whole thing depends on understanding the raster graphic concepts. The reason why the GIF appears to be so much smaller is that the GIF format is a compressed format, whereas the TIFF may or may not have compessed data. You can kind of proof that by ZIPping the TIFF and see how small it comes out. A pretty useful application to handle all kind of raster graphic formats on the Mac is GraphicConverter. It can create GIFs of all kind of resolutions and quite a few more things. Hope, this can help. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch [ Bridging the Knowledge Gap ] ______________________ >> Perhaps someone can explain what's happening. Is it anything to do with >> what was recently suggested to me as FrameMaker's unique behaviour in >> handling imported graphics files with explicit (i.e. dialog box) reference >> to dpi? I have noticed that the GIF defaults to 72dpi if imported before >> any other graphics files; I simply change that to 600 dpi for the correct >> size and image quality. If the corresponding TIFF is imported first, it >> defaults to 600 dpi; then, the GIF does that too. > >I've never used Framemaker, so what Roger is saying is %$&*#@&% to me. >However, when we were discussing this issue, I tried to save a 1-bit gif >from Photoshop. Photoshop will not export a 1-bit image. > >I couldn't even print the darn thing from the Mac -- it totally barfed the >machine -- so I ported it over to the PC and opened it in Corel Paint. A 300 >dpi very small image on the Mac turned into a 72 dpi image that was 50 >some-odd inches wide in Corel!!! > >It did print -- a very small portion of the letters "Now" that I had set in >72 pt. type filled a letter-sized page and more. > >I did not try working with this image in Pagemaker, but Quark wouldn't >recognize it. Its import filter only deals with gif images that have been >*exported* from ps and not saved as a gif. > >So what Roger seems to have found is something terrific for Framemaker...but >I don't think it will ever be the boone to Quark and other >programs/platforms as tiff has been. _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 21-Jul-1999 23:45:05-GMT,1995;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA00077 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 17:45:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA00945; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 18:42:51 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 21 Jul 1999 18:41:23 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA00727; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 18:41:12 -0500 Message-ID: <37965A6D.E7D6EB51@nbnet.nb.ca> Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 20:40:29 -0300 From: Robert Richard X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Pdfzone Subject: [PDF] File Open Action & updating File Select. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ PDFZone mailing list, With a particular "File Open Action" created by the "Form Fields Link" in Acrobat 3.02, we would like to update/change the "Select File" to be open. Without having to update/change all of the links one by one, how could I batch this job. If I just change the name of the file, the "File Open Action" will no longer be able to function. Thanks in advance for reply, Robert Richard. _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 21-Jul-1999 17:48:55-GMT,14728;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA20843 for ; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 11:48:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA24209; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 12:45:52 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 21 Jul 1999 12:44:43 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA24060; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 12:44:41 -0500 X-Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated X-Division: Core Technologies X-Department: Product Interoperability Analysis X-URL: Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.19990721094050.00a4bef0@mail-303> X-Sender: isaacs@mail-303 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 X-Priority: 1 (Highest) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 10:43:40 -0700 To: (Recipient list suppressed) From: Dov Isaacs Subject: [PDF] UPDATE: (Windows'9x)+(AdobePS 4.3)+(a-number-of-variables)=>(Entomology 101) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=====================_68342316==_.ALT" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ --=====================_68342316==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" FrameMaker & PDF Forum Readers: This is an UPDATE to email I sent out on Friday, July 16. If you do not print PostScript or generate PDF files using Windows'9x, please excuse this intrusion. You may safely ignore this message. On behalf of Adobe, I wish to thank all members of these forums who sent email providing symptoms of the problems they encountered as well as samples. These have been very helpful in isolating the problem to certain areas of the AdobePS 4.3 driver functionality. I also apologize for the extreme inconvenience that this problem is causing. If it is of any comfort to any of you, it has severely cramped my workflows also! We now know that although the problems have been reported to us only with relationship to use of AdobePS 4.3 with FrameMaker, the problems can occur with any application that has the capability to pass PostScript through to the driver for purposes of providing EPS support or special Acrobat support. Thus the following revised information ... SYMPTOMS: When printing a "long" document, the system or the application that is "printing" appears to "hang" irretrievably or "crash." In the case of FrameMaker, the most common symptom is that there is no "return" from the print function back to the application -- the file on the print queue is listed as "spooling" and it is impossible to further access or control any of the print functions including print queues or printer setup. In the case of Microsoft Word, a system message appears indicating that "rundll" has crashed followed by a system message that system resources are critically low and offering the option to terminate Microsoft Word. In either case, full system restart is normally necessary. In some cases, restart can only be accomplished via system hard reboot (system reset key)! WHAT WE KNOW: The problem appears NOT to be associated simply with the number of pages in the document. The bug in AdobePS 4.2.4 through 4.2.6 that limited the number of pages to 256 in GDI applications was fixed for AdobePS 4.3. We have successfully printed some FrameMaker and Microsoft Word documents with many hundreds of pages with AdobePS 4.3. Output from applications that generate most, if not all, of their own PostScript output stream (including Adobe Illustrator, Adobe Photoshop, Adobe PageMaker, Adobe Acrobat, Adobe InDesign, CorelDRAW, Corel Ventura Publisher, Macromedia Freehand, and Quark XPress) do not exhibit this problem. The problem seems to occur with documents that have one or more the of the following characteristics: (a) Large numbers of EPS files and/or images. The problem seems totally unrelated to the SIZE of such files or images, but rather to the number of them. Note that an EPS file or image on a master page (FrameMaker) or header/footer (Word) appears on every page and each occurrence in the printed output contributes to the count. One of our sample FrameMaker documents were successful with 3000 EPS graphics, but failed with 4500 EPS graphics. (b) Use of the "generate Acrobat data" (FrameMaker) or use of macros such as PDFMaker (Microsoft Word) which generate PDFMark information via PostScript passthrough to the driver. The problem appears to be memory related. Symptoms appear to differ from system-to-system based upon the available main memory and virtual memory based upon the size of the paging file. The problem may occur less often on systems in which the size of the Windows paging "swap" file is allowed to grow indefinitely -- of course this might seriously interfere with the ability to output the spool file to disk. We believe that although we have seen the problem with FrameMaker and Microsoft Word, there is no reason to believe that the problem wouldn't also occur with a wide range of GDI applications that have the ability to pass PostScript through the driver for the purpose of printing EPS. In all cases, the full print process can be accomplished by "printing by parts." The problems do not occur is all the pages are printed, but divided into multiple jobs within the same invocation of the application program. Thus, we also know that the problem is not cumulative. Assuming that memory / resources are "leaking", everything appears to be cleaned up end of each print job from the application. We know of no similar problem with the AdobePS 4.2.x drivers (where x>=4), but then again, those versions have a 256 page limit. WORKAROUNDS: (1) You can print "by parts." Print the first "n" pages of "m" followed by the next "n" pages, etc. For creating PDF files, you can combine the PDF files via the "insert" function of Acrobat. (2) You can punt back as far as AdobePS 4.2.4, remembering the problems with the pre-2015 PPD files and that TrueType will yield proper search results for Acrobat. ACTION ITEMS: The bug has been reported to the Adobe PostScript Driver QA and Development groups along with very simple files (both FrameMaker and Microsoft Word) that demonstrate the problem. We have enough samples and information that we really don't need any further examples, unless you have information that either contradicts the above or is significantly different. We consider this a bug of the highest severity and priority. We currently have a driver maintenance release, AdobePS 4.3.1, under development with a product release in a September timeframe. We would expect the fix to be in that version. I will report back to these forums when we have any news of substance to report to you including availability of a fix via AdobePS 4.3.1, other workarounds, or requests for additional information. On a further personal note ... Starting late Friday, I will be "offline" and on a REAL vacation for approximately two weeks with NO email access. Thus, please do not expect any responses from me during that time and subsequently until I can catch up with the accumulated 400+ emails/day that will accumulate. - Dov --=====================_68342316==_.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" FrameMaker & PDF Forum Readers:

This is an UPDATE to email I sent out on Friday, July 16.

If you do not print PostScript or generate PDF files using Windows'9x,
please excuse this intrusion. You may safely ignore this message.

On behalf of Adobe, I wish to thank all members of these forums who
sent email providing symptoms of the problems they encountered as well
as samples. These have been very helpful in isolating the problem to
certain areas of the AdobePS 4.3 driver functionality. I also apologize
for the extreme inconvenience that this problem is causing. If it is
of any comfort to any of you, it has severely cramped my workflows also!

We now know that although the problems have been reported to us
only with relationship to use of AdobePS 4.3 with FrameMaker, the
problems can occur with any application that has the capability to
pass PostScript through to the driver for purposes of providing
EPS support or special Acrobat support.

Thus the following revised information ...


SYMPTOMS:

When printing a "long" document, the system or the application that
is "printing" appears to "hang" irretrievably or "crash." In the case
of FrameMaker, the most common symptom is that there is no "return"
from the print function back to the application -- the file on the
print queue is listed as "spooling" and it is impossible to further
access or control any of the print functions including print queues or
printer setup. In the case of Microsoft Word, a system message appears
indicating that "rundll" has crashed followed by a system message
that system resources are critically low and offering the option to
terminate Microsoft Word. In either case, full system restart is
normally necessary. In some cases, restart can only be accomplished
via system hard reboot (system reset key)!


WHAT WE KNOW:

The problem appears NOT to be associated simply with the number of pages
in the document. The bug in AdobePS 4.2.4 through 4.2.6 that limited
the number of pages to 256 in GDI applications was fixed for AdobePS 4.3.
We have successfully printed some FrameMaker and Microsoft Word documents
with many hundreds of pages with AdobePS 4.3.

Output from applications that generate most, if not all, of their own
PostScript output stream (including Adobe Illustrator, Adobe Photoshop,
Adobe PageMaker, Adobe Acrobat, Adobe InDesign, CorelDRAW, Corel Ventura
Publisher, Macromedia Freehand, and Quark XPress) do not exhibit this
problem.

The problem seems to occur with documents that have one or more the of
the following characteristics:

(a) Large numbers of EPS files and/or images. The problem seems totally
unrelated to the SIZE of such files or images, but rather to the number
of them. Note that an EPS file or image on a master page (FrameMaker) or
header/footer (Word) appears on every page and each occurrence in the
printed output contributes to the count. One of our sample FrameMaker
documents were successful with 3000 EPS graphics, but failed with 4500
EPS graphics.

(b) Use of the "generate Acrobat data" (FrameMaker) or use of macros
such as PDFMaker (Microsoft Word) which generate PDFMark information via
PostScript passthrough to the driver.

The problem appears to be memory related. Symptoms appear to differ from
system-to-system based upon the available main memory and virtual memory
based upon the size of the paging file. The problem may occur less often
on systems in which the size of the Windows paging "swap" file is allowed
to grow indefinitely -- of course this might seriously interfere with
the ability to output the spool file to disk.

We believe that although we have seen the problem with FrameMaker and
Microsoft Word, there is no reason to believe that the problem wouldn't
also occur with a wide range of GDI applications that have the ability
to pass PostScript through the driver for the purpose of printing EPS.

In all cases, the full print process can be accomplished by "printing
by parts." The problems do not occur is all the pages are printed, but
divided into multiple jobs within the same invocation of the application
program. Thus, we also know that the problem is not cumulative. Assuming
that memory / resources are "leaking", everything appears to be cleaned up
end of each print job from the application.

We know of no similar problem with the AdobePS 4.2.x drivers (where x>=4),
but then again, those versions have a 256 page limit.


WORKAROUNDS:

(1) You can print "by parts." Print the first "n" pages of "m" followed by
the next "n" pages, etc. For creating PDF files, you can combine the PDF
files via the "insert" function of Acrobat.

(2) You can punt back as far as AdobePS 4.2.4, remembering the problems
with the pre-2015 PPD files and that TrueType will yield proper search
results for Acrobat.


ACTION ITEMS:

The bug has been reported to the Adobe PostScript Driver QA and Development
groups along with very simple files (both FrameMaker and Microsoft Word)
that demonstrate the problem.

We have enough samples and information that we really don't need any further
examples, unless you have information that either contradicts the above or
is significantly different.

We consider this a bug of the highest severity and priority. We currently
have a driver maintenance release, AdobePS 4.3.1, under development with
a product release in a September timeframe. We would expect the fix to be
in that version.

I will report back to these forums when we have any news of substance to
report to you including availability of a fix via AdobePS 4.3.1, other
workarounds, or requests for additional information.



On a further personal note ... Starting late Friday, I will be "offline" and on a
REAL vacation for approximately two weeks with NO email access. Thus, please do not
expect any responses from me during that time and subsequently until I can catch up
with the accumulated 400+ emails/day that will accumulate.



        - Dov --=====================_68342316==_.ALT-- _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 22-Jul-1999 8:23:00-GMT,4174;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA11825 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 02:22:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA09753; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 03:06:35 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 22 Jul 1999 03:02:16 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA09559; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 03:02:09 -0500 Message-ID: <00ff01bed418$91cd0a30$0100a8c0@algonet.se> From: "Peter Reichel" To: Subject: [PDF] Problem with Distiller 4 and PMS colors Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 10:02:39 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00FC_01BED429.551A57D0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-Return-Path: peter@originalab.se Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00FC_01BED429.551A57D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have a problem with Acrobat Distiller 4. When I give a PostScript file to it, it gives me this error message. %%[ Error: invalidaccess; OffendingCommand: put ]%% Stack: 0.66 3 [0 0.76 0.56 0.56 (PANTONE 195 CVP)] 1 [0 0.76 0.56 0.56 (PANTONE 195 CVP)] %%[ Flushing: rest of job (to end-of-file) will be ignored ]%% %%[ Warning: PostScript error. No PDF file produced. ] %% The same PostScript file works fine in Distiller 3. I smell a bug. Anyone seen this? Peter Reichel Originalab peter@originalab.se ------=_NextPart_000_00FC_01BED429.551A57D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I have a problem with Acrobat Distiller = 4.
When I give a PostScript file to = it,
it gives me this error = message.
 
%%[ Error: invalidaccess; = OffendingCommand: put=20 ]%%
 
Stack:
0.66
3
[0 0.76 0.56 = 0.56 (PANTONE=20 195 CVP)]
1
[0 0.76 0.56 0.56 (PANTONE 195 CVP)]
 

%%[ Flushing: rest of job (to = end-of-file) will=20 be ignored ]%%
%%[ Warning: PostScript error. No PDF file produced. ] = %%
 
The same PostScript file works fine in = Distiller=20 3.
I smell a bug. Anyone seen = this?
 
Peter Reichel
Originalab
peter@originalab.se
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_00FC_01BED429.551A57D0-- _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 22-Jul-1999 13:21:40-GMT,5131;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA17847 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 07:21:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA00251; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 08:14:48 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 22 Jul 1999 08:12:56 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA00100; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 08:12:54 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990722091649.008ae6d0@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 09:16:49 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] Re: Graphics file formats In-Reply-To: <199907212200.PAA06982@mail.inficad.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >> following might be of interest to others. I have discovered that GIFs can >> be used as imported graphics files in FrameMaker (5.5.6 on Win 95) without >> any discernible loss of quality in comparison to equivalent TIFFs, but with >> much smaller files. Let's be sure we're comparing apples and apples. What flavor TIFF? Bi-level or 256-color LZW compressed, or garden-variety 24-bit uncompressed? If the latter, it's no surprise that the equivalent GIF (ALWAYS 256-color or less, ALWAYS compressed) will be smaller. >> I guess this may surprise others as it did my correspondent on the Acrobat >> list, who had never encountered anything of the sort in 12 years of >> computer graphics experience and, like all of us (until I stumbled on the >> solution that works for me), worked on the basis that GIFs and 72 dpi go >> together never to be separated and that GIFs are therefore useless for >> printed output. DPI in image files is a sometimes-useful lie, but it's a lie nevertheless. An image file is X pixels by Y pixels. The notion of DPI and/or inch/cm/other-unit measurement is merely a convenient fiction, one that's maintained between some apps and some image formats and not by others. It simply enables you to specify in advance that a given image is to be imported at XX inches, certainly a useful thing, but you can change the inches or DPI all you like and so long as you don't allow your paint app to resample, the image itself is unchanged. >from Photoshop. Photoshop will not export a 1-bit image. Odd, that. OTOH, it'll happily File, Save As and allow you to save the thing as GIF. At least, PShop4/Win will. >machine -- so I ported it over to the PC and opened it in Corel Paint. A 300 >dpi very small image on the Mac turned into a 72 dpi image that was 50 >some-odd inches wide in Corel!!! See above. GIF is one of the formats that doesn't store DPI/Inches. Photoshop will TELL you that it's 72dpi (even on the PC) because 72dpi is the default screen rez for Mac. Absent any dpi info in the file, it has to start somewhere in order to determine how to size the image on import/open. Most PC apps assume 96dpi, or will pick up your current video display resolution (96 or 120 dpi in almost all cases). To size an image that doesn't include dpi/inches info, they generally take the number of pixels (width or height), divide that by current display rez to get size in inches. The issue of how the various file formats affect application file size is an interesting one. In the case of MS apps, for example, the app may offer native support for GIF and a few other formats, so when these formats are imported, they're embedded in the doc in their original format. If the app doesn't natively support the format, it converts it to some other format for internal storage. Earlier versions of Word and PowerPoint, for example, seem to support GIF natively, but not JPG or TIFF. They converted any non-supported file format to BMP for internal storage, meaning that the app file size would blossom alarmingly if you included large JPG images. Current versions of both apps natively support JPG and use PNG as the internal storage format for non-natively supported files, meaning that importing bitmaps no longer eats quite the disk space it once did. Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 22-Jul-1999 14:05:50-GMT,1967;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA18938 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 08:05:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA05181; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 09:03:15 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 22 Jul 1999 09:02:02 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA05059; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 09:02:00 -0500 From: Kjeld.Thrane@alpharma.no X-Lotus-Fromdomain: ALPHARMA To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-Id: <412567B6.005287B9.00@apoosl12@alpharma.no> Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 16:01:40 +0100 Subject: [PDF] Print problems with HP 8500 DN printer. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi everybody. Can someone please help me? When ever I try to print more than 1 copy of an pdf file on an HP 8500 DN laser printer, I only get one copy. According to HP in Denmark this is a problem, they don't no how to solve. Do anybody out there know a solution on this problem. (plugins or other solutions) I will look forward many good answers. Yours sincerely Kjeld Thrane Printed Packaging Material co-ordinator. _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 22-Jul-1999 14:40:07-GMT,2575;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA19819 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 08:40:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA08643; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 09:36:56 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 22 Jul 1999 09:35:24 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA08412; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 09:35:16 -0500 Message-Id: <199907221435.HAA77960@mail.inficad.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 07:35:06 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Re: Graphics file formats From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >>> following might be of interest to others. I have discovered that GIFs can >>> be used as imported graphics files in FrameMaker (5.5.6 on Win 95) without >>> any discernible loss of quality in comparison to equivalent TIFFs, but with >>> much smaller files. > > Let's be sure we're comparing apples and apples. What flavor TIFF? > Bi-level or 256-color LZW compressed, or garden-variety 24-bit > uncompressed? If the latter, it's no surprise that the equivalent GIF > (ALWAYS 256-color or less, ALWAYS compressed) will be smaller. 1-bit, black and white. >>from Photoshop. Photoshop will not export a 1-bit image. > > Odd, that. OTOH, it'll happily File, Save As and allow you to save the > thing as GIF. > At least, PShop4/Win will. The operative word here is *export*. You can save it as a gif -- but Quark only recognizes gif89a format, which is not 1-bit b/w. As has been reported in other posts, Frame has a unique ability to work with 1-bit gifs. r|i|c|h _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 22-Jul-1999 14:45:08-GMT,3027;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA19943 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 08:45:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA09416; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 09:42:33 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 22 Jul 1999 09:41:26 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA09230; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 09:41:23 -0500 Message-ID: <1B3D5E532D18D311861A00600865478CA0ED@exchange1.nt.maidstone.gov.uk> From: Peter Mount To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Print problems with HP 8500 DN printer. Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 15:40:01 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I've come across this problem before with JetDirect printers when printing from Unix. I never really found a solution to this, but it seems that JetDirect cards respond to two ports, one for lpd (which prints one copy), and the other that seems capable of multiple copies. Peter -- Peter Mount Enterprise Support Maidstone Borough Council Any views stated are my own, and not those of Maidstone Borough Council. -----Original Message----- From: Kjeld.Thrane@alpharma.no [mailto:Kjeld.Thrane@alpharma.no] Sent: 22 July 1999 16:02 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Print problems with HP 8500 DN printer. The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi everybody. Can someone please help me? When ever I try to print more than 1 copy of an pdf file on an HP 8500 DN laser printer, I only get one copy. According to HP in Denmark this is a problem, they don't no how to solve. Do anybody out there know a solution on this problem. (plugins or other solutions) I will look forward many good answers. Yours sincerely Kjeld Thrane Printed Packaging Material co-ordinator. _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 22-Jul-1999 15:04:48-GMT,2329;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA20378 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 09:04:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA11606; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 10:02:09 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 22 Jul 1999 10:00:55 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA11289; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 10:00:54 -0500 Message-Id: <199907221500.IAA82906@mail.inficad.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 08:00:52 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Re: Graphics file formats From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ How have you been, Max? > The reason why the GIF appears to be so much smaller is that the GIF format > is a compressed format, whereas the TIFF may or may not have compessed > data. You can kind of proof that by ZIPping the TIFF and see how small it > comes out. The real question is where is it practical, and possible, to use a 1-bit gof (besides in Frame)? > A pretty useful application to handle all kind of raster graphic formats on > the Mac is GraphicConverter. It can create GIFs of all kind of resolutions > and quite a few more things. I have this program...just haven't found a use for it. > Hope, this can help. You're always a help. Thanks for your enlightenment. > Max Wyss > PRODOK Engineering r|i|c|h _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 22-Jul-1999 19:54:05-GMT,2835;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA00942 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 13:54:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA09438; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 14:50:32 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 22 Jul 1999 14:47:25 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA09100; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 14:47:12 -0500 X400-Received: by mta MTAmrshmc1 in /c=US/admd=mci/prmd=marshmc/; Relayed; 22 Jul 1999 19:46:23 Z X400-Received: by /c=US/admd=mci/prmd=marshmc/; Relayed; 22 Jul 1999 19:46:23 Z X400-MTS-Identifier: [/c=US/admd=mci/prmd=marshmc/; 045F13797750F21F-mrshmc1] Content-Identifier: 045F13797750F21F Content-Return: Allowed X400-Content-Type: P2-1988 ( 22 ) Conversion: Allowed Original-Encoded-Information-Types: IA5-Text Disclose-Recipients: Prohibited Alternate-Recipient: Allowed X400-Originator: Stacey.Kahn@marshmc.com X400-Recipients: non-disclosure; Message-Id: <045F13797750F21F*/c=US/admd=mci/prmd=marshmc/o=email/ou=NotesWREN/s=Kahn/g=Stacey/@MHS> Date: 22 Jul 1999 19:46:23 Z From: Stacey Kahn To: pdf-basics , pdf Subject: [PDF] file size using Distiller? Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi, I'm trying to create a PDF from a 3MB, 180 page Word 97 file, under Win95, using Acrobat 3.01. The file contains lots of tables, probably 50 small logos (GIFs), and dozens of section breaks where the page orientation changes between landscape and portrait. When I use PDFWriter to generate the PDF file, the file size is around 2-3 MB. Fine. But when I use Distiller, the file size is 12 MB. Problem is, I need to generate links between the TOC and body pages within the document -- I need to be using Distiller. I've tried turning off TOC, bookmarks, and so on. None of the Distiller settings seems to make a significant difference in the file size. Any suggestions? Thanks- Stacey Kahn stacey.kahn@marshmc.com speaking for myself and not for Marsh, Inc. _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 22-Jul-1999 20:00:37-GMT,2282;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA01111 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 14:00:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA10555; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 14:58:37 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 22 Jul 1999 14:57:28 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA10422; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 14:57:27 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990722160120.008c0250@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 16:01:20 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] Print problems with HP 8500 DN printer. In-Reply-To: <412567B6.005287B9.00@apoosl12@alpharma.no> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >When ever I try to print more than 1 copy of an pdf file on an HP 8500 DN >laser printer, I only get one copy. > Some drivers evidently report back to applications that they support multi-copy printing when in fact they don't. HP's pretty famous for this. ;-) You might have better luck setting the number of copies in the printer driver setup screens. Do be sure to change it back to 1 after you're done. Save the trees. Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 22-Jul-1999 20:12:23-GMT,2621;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA01429 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 14:12:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA11975; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 15:09:51 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 22 Jul 1999 15:08:12 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA11782; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 15:08:05 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990722161159.008c0c60@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 16:11:59 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] Re: Graphics file formats In-Reply-To: <199907221435.HAA77960@mail.inficad.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > >1-bit, black and white. > Interesting. I saved a small 1-bit image to both GIF and TIF/LZW compressed. File sizes weren't more than a few bytes different. However, note that if you re-open the just-saved 1-bit GIF, PShop opens it as Indexed color. Further saves to TIF are no longer 1-bit. Save the GIF again after opening it and it's about the same size as the original (well, *precisely* the same size in this case), but the TIF saved after re-opening the GIF and saving is 6 or 7 times the file size. >As has been reported in other posts, Frame has a unique ability to work with >1-bit gifs. The copy of the GIF spec I have is old and too verbally murky for me to penetrate very far w/o elephant gun and camouflage gear, but it appears that GIFs are 256-color, period. Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 22-Jul-1999 20:33:04-GMT,2081;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA01945 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 14:33:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA14658; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 15:32:22 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 22 Jul 1999 15:26:58 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA13827; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 15:26:54 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Weaver, Aaron" To: "'pdfdev@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDFdev] How to convert pdf to ps in the new Adobe acrobat 4.0 world? Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 16:26:26 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2232.9) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdfdev@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdfdev@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVES: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com PDFdev is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com _____________________________________________________________ Thanks for the previous help. I need to be able to convert pdf files to postscript. I am using the acrobat 3.X pdflib to extract pages to a ps file and the program can be used in batch mode. I know I can do this with a plugin in Acrobat Exchange 4.0 but I am not comfortable with this method. We filled out a form for the new version of pdflib but nobody has replied yet. There is a chance that Adobe may not send us the new pdflib. Is there a simpler way to convert pdf to ps? thanks ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 22-Jul-1999 20:40:54-GMT,1939;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA02184 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 14:40:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA15307; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 15:38:52 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 22 Jul 1999 15:37:30 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA15199; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 15:37:27 -0500 Message-ID: <97B11CC2DFF7D211A7D30050041EA7700C7ECD@keg.aus.frco.com> From: "Riley, Ron [FRS/AUS]" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Cc: "Riley, Ron [FRS/AUS]" Subject: [PDF] disabling launch popup Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 15:29:20 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I'm trying to launch an application (winhelp) from a pdf file. A confirmation dialog appears cautioning that Acrobat is about to launch the application. Is there any way to disable this confirmation dialog permanently so users won't have to see it? Thanks, Ron Riley Ron.Riley@Austin.frco.com _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 22-Jul-1999 20:53:26-GMT,2551;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA02584 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 14:53:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA16672; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 15:51:05 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 22 Jul 1999 15:49:39 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA16447; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 15:49:38 -0500 Message-Id: <199907222049.NAA61792@mail.inficad.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 13:49:35 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] file size using Distiller? From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com CC: stacey.kahn@marshmc.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > When I use PDFWriter to generate the PDF file, the file size is around > 2-3 MB. Fine. But when I use Distiller, the file size is 12 MB. > Problem is, I need to generate links between the TOC and body pages > within the document -- I need to be using Distiller. Stacey: Your problem may be one of compression. What are your settings? Reply to me privately, and I'll try to walk you through this. Or send me a 1-2 page distilled pdf and I'll look at it, and advise you of any options you have. Rich ---------------------------------------------------------------- Rich Sprague PDF Solutions/Consulting (480) 860-0050 Print Management & Production richsprague@inficad.com 4-Color Digital Printing http://www.inficad.com/~richsprague Sheetfed & Web Printing *38* years experience ---------------------------------------------------------------- _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 22-Jul-1999 20:59:49-GMT,2862;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA02740 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 14:59:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA17470; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 15:57:31 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 22 Jul 1999 15:56:21 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA17290; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 15:56:21 -0500 From: "Thane Terrill" To: Subject: [PDF] Re: Out Put Size in 4.0 Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 16:59:08 -0400 Message-ID: <003201bed485$0a514630$3700a8c0@bic.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <199907221947.OAA09153@everglades.binc.net> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I tried a number of the suggestions and I'm still having the same problem. The PDF shows an 8.5x11 size. The page setup is 6.5x5.18 in landscape mode. I have Acrobat 4.0 running on NT 4.0. This unit is new and has not had 3.0. I can get things to work in the PDFwriter. I went to the Distiller and used the Advanced tab to enter the page size -- but I did not see anything about screen orientation. No difference. I saw the let Postscript override Distiller -- tried it both ways with no apparent difference. I did change the custom size in the Printer options in Word to have a custom PS size. I set it to landscape with no problem. I'm not sure about the paper source. I've tried both "automatically select" and "only one" -- whatever that means -- with no effect. Interestingly, the print preview works just fine. When I print, my 6.5x5.18 document is centered vertically on a 8.5x11 screen -- flush right. Many thanks for all the help. ==Thane ps: how do I know when I have the wrong PPD file? I have what was automatically installed with Acrobat 4.0. It looks okay and functions in all other respects. _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 22-Jul-1999 21:32:48-GMT,6434;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA03611 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 15:32:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA20735; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 16:30:33 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 22 Jul 1999 16:29:17 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA20614; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 16:29:12 -0500 Message-ID: <000a01bed489$98bbb8c0$97907018@cr213078a.glph1.on.wave.home.com> From: "Stellactica" To: References: <3.0.5.32.19990722160120.008c0250@pop.iglou.com> Subject: Re: [PDF] Print problems with HP 8500 DN printer. Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 17:31:44 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01BED468.1177BE20" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01BED468.1177BE20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I've run into the same problem, and changing the number of copies = through the printer driver made no dif. This happens with Acrobat and = Photoshop only. I can print multiple copies with Pagemaker, and MS = Office apps. Weird. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Steve Rindsberg=20 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com=20 Sent: July 22, 1999 4:01 PM Subject: Re: [PDF] Print problems with HP 8500 DN printer. The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >When ever I try to print more than 1 copy of an pdf file on an HP = 8500 DN >laser printer, I only get one copy. > Some drivers evidently report back to applications that they support multi-copy printing when in fact they don't. HP's pretty famous for = this. ;-) You might have better luck setting the number of copies in the printer driver setup screens. Do be sure to change it back to 1 after you're = done. Save the trees.=20 Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! =20 Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01BED468.1177BE20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I've run into the same problem, and changing the = number of=20 copies through the printer driver made no dif. This happens with Acrobat = and=20 Photoshop only. I can print multiple copies with Pagemaker, and MS = Office apps.=20 Weird.
----- Original Message -----
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To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com
Sent: July 22, 1999 4:01 = PM
Subject: Re: [PDF] Print = problems with HP=20 8500 DN printer.


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>When= =20 ever I try to print more than 1 copy of an pdf file on an HP 8500=20 DN
>laser printer, I only get one copy.
>

Some = drivers=20 evidently report back to applications that they support
multi-copy = printing=20 when in fact they don't.  HP's pretty famous for = this.
;-)

You=20 might have better luck setting the number of copies in the = printer
driver=20 setup screens.  Do be sure to change it back to 1 after you're=20 done.
 Save the trees.

Steve Rindsberg
President, = RDP - a=20 slide imaging service bureau
http://www.rdpslides.com

Dev= elopers=20 of ZAP! 
Customizable online ordering software for service=20 bureaus
http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.ht= m
_
____________*=20 FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________
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___________________________________________________________ ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01BED468.1177BE20-- _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 22-Jul-1999 21:55:49-GMT,4270;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA04257 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 15:55:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA23048; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 16:53:20 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 22 Jul 1999 16:51:49 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA22858; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 16:51:47 -0500 Message-ID: <003e01bed48c$c0d75500$97907018@cr213078a.glph1.on.wave.home.com> From: "Stellactica" To: References: <199907222049.NAA61792@mail.inficad.com> Subject: [PDF] Acrobat 4 PDF Maker for Word 97 (Win95) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 17:54:20 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_003B_01BED46B.39AD4B00" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_003B_01BED46B.39AD4B00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm gonna spend some time searching for info on this, honest, but = anyway, are there known issues with this? I installed it today and then tried to create a PDF (using the Distiller = option) . The Word doc was approx 180 pages with bookmarks, hyperlinks, = section breaks and page numbering It kept giving an error msg that it = couldn't create the PDF. So I created puny Word file with one bookmark = and created a PDF from it no prob. After that, I copied about 50 pages = from the original doc, tried to create a PDF and got the can't create = message again. In addition to that, every time I exit Word after creating a PDF there = are DLL errors and I have to reboot the system. Acrobat 3 was on the = system but I unistalled it before installing 4. Any ideas? ------=_NextPart_000_003B_01BED46B.39AD4B00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I'm gonna spend some time searching for info on = this, honest,=20 but anyway, are there known issues with this?
 
I installed it today and then tried to create a PDF = (using the=20 Distiller option) . The Word doc was approx 180 pages with = bookmarks,=20 hyperlinks, section breaks and page numbering It kept giving an error = msg that=20 it couldn't create the PDF. So I created puny Word file with one = bookmark=20 and created a PDF from it no prob. After that, I copied about 50 pages = from the=20 original doc, tried to create a PDF and got the can't create message=20 again.
 
In addition to that, every time I exit Word after = creating a=20 PDF there are DLL errors and I have to reboot the system. Acrobat 3 was = on the=20 system but I unistalled it before installing 4.
 
Any ideas?
 
 
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_003B_01BED46B.39AD4B00-- _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 22-Jul-1999 22:02:52-GMT,2916;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA04457 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 16:02:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA23668; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 16:59:47 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 22 Jul 1999 16:58:37 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA23552; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 16:58:35 -0500 X-Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated X-Division: Core Technologies X-Department: Product Interoperability Analysis X-URL: Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.19990722145642.00a5db20@mail-303> X-Sender: isaacs@mail-303 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 14:57:54 -0700 To: "Stellactica" From: Dov Isaacs Subject: Re: [PDF] Acrobat 4 PDF Maker for Word 97 (Win95) Cc: In-Reply-To: <003e01bed48c$c0d75500$97907018@cr213078a.glph1.on.wave.hom e.com> References: <199907222049.NAA61792@mail.inficad.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Yep, if you are using the AdobePS 4.3 driver under Windows'9X, you are hitting the bug that I have been sending out email about. If any other circumstance, I don't know! - Dov At 7/22/99 02:54 PM , Stellactica wrote: >I'm gonna spend some time searching for info on this, honest, but anyway, are there known issues with this? > >I installed it today and then tried to create a PDF (using the Distiller option) . The Word doc was approx 180 pages with bookmarks, hyperlinks, section breaks and page numbering It kept giving an error msg that it couldn't create the PDF. So I created puny Word file with one bookmark and created a PDF from it no prob. After that, I copied about 50 pages from the original doc, tried to create a PDF and got the can't create message again. > >In addition to that, every time I exit Word after creating a PDF there are DLL errors and I have to reboot the system. Acrobat 3 was on the system but I unistalled it before installing 4. > >Any ideas? _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 22-Jul-1999 22:03:27-GMT,2493;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA04490 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 16:03:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA24042; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 17:01:30 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 22 Jul 1999 17:00:24 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA23739; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 17:00:22 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: mgavin_list@smtp.digapp.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19990722161159.008c0c60@pop.iglou.com> References: <199907221435.HAA77960@mail.inficad.com> Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 18:02:19 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com, pdfdev@lists.pdfzone.com From: Mark Gavin Subject: [PDF] PDF Server based applications on Linux Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ We are in the process of porting our existing server based applications (FDFMerge, StampPDF Batch and AppendPDF) to Linux. We intend to support Red Hat Linux 6.0 running on Intel Pentium processors. We are debating whether to support other processors running Linux. For example: Dec Alpha Compaq Sun Sparc Sun Microsystems Cobalt MIPS Cobalt Networks PowerPC IBM or Apple We would appreciate feedback from people who are currently running Linux or who expect to be running Linux in the near future. This question is not really relevant to the list and I would appreciate any feedback be sent to me directly at mailto:mgavin@digapp.com. Thank you. Mark Gavin Vice President, Software Development Digital Applications, Inc. 215 East Providence Road Aldan, PA 19018-4129 (610) 284-4006 http://www.digapp.com _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 22-Jul-1999 22:05:02-GMT,2495;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA04502 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 16:05:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id RAA24381; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 17:04:25 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 22 Jul 1999 17:00:23 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA23722; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 17:00:21 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: mgavin_list@smtp.digapp.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19990722161159.008c0c60@pop.iglou.com> References: <199907221435.HAA77960@mail.inficad.com> Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 18:02:19 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com, pdfdev@lists.pdfzone.com From: Mark Gavin Subject: [PDFdev] PDF Server based applications on Linux Sender: owner-pdfdev@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdfdev@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVES: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com PDFdev is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com _____________________________________________________________ We are in the process of porting our existing server based applications (FDFMerge, StampPDF Batch and AppendPDF) to Linux. We intend to support Red Hat Linux 6.0 running on Intel Pentium processors. We are debating whether to support other processors running Linux. For example: Dec Alpha Compaq Sun Sparc Sun Microsystems Cobalt MIPS Cobalt Networks PowerPC IBM or Apple We would appreciate feedback from people who are currently running Linux or who expect to be running Linux in the near future. This question is not really relevant to the list and I would appreciate any feedback be sent to me directly at mailto:mgavin@digapp.com. Thank you. Mark Gavin Vice President, Software Development Digital Applications, Inc. 215 East Providence Road Aldan, PA 19018-4129 (610) 284-4006 http://www.digapp.com ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 22-Jul-1999 22:10:38-GMT,2181;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA04655 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 16:10:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA24835; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 17:08:42 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 22 Jul 1999 17:07:03 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA24574; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 17:07:00 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] disabling launch popup Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 23:07:24 +0100 Message-ID: <001a01bed48e$948d8620$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 In-Reply-To: <97B11CC2DFF7D211A7D30050041EA7700C7ECD@keg.aus.frco.com> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > I'm trying to launch an application (winhelp) from a pdf file. A > confirmation dialog appears cautioning that Acrobat is about > to launch the > application. Is there any way to disable this confirmation dialog > permanently so users won't have to see it? No, absolutely not. I fervently hope there is never a way to disable this message. It may be annoying, but it helps to keep PDF safe to run. Aandi _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 22-Jul-1999 22:28:56-GMT,2401;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA05155 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 16:28:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA26454; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 17:26:51 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 22 Jul 1999 17:25:31 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA26351; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 17:25:30 -0500 X-Sender: prodok@pop.eunet.ch Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <97B11CC2DFF7D211A7D30050041EA7700C7ECD@keg.aus.frco.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 00:21:56 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Max Wyss Subject: Re: [PDF] disabling launch popup Cc: "Riley, Ron [FRS/AUS]" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ This question comes up about twice a week nowadays. That dialog is an important Safety feature of Acrobat. In fact, it is the only one which would detect the start of unwanted and dangerous applications. So, would you disable the Emergency Stop buttons on your machinery? Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch [ Bridging the Knowledge Gap ] ______________________ >I'm trying to launch an application (winhelp) from a pdf file. A >confirmation dialog appears cautioning that Acrobat is about to launch the >application. Is there any way to disable this confirmation dialog >permanently so users won't have to see it? > _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 22-Jul-1999 23:14:16-GMT,2722;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA06394 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 17:14:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA30463; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 18:10:51 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 22 Jul 1999 18:09:04 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA30333; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 18:09:00 -0500 Message-Id: <199907222308.QAA94823@mail.inficad.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 16:08:58 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Re: Out Put Size in 4.0 From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com CC: tterrill@bic.org Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > I tried a number of the suggestions and I'm still having the same problem. > The PDF shows an 8.5x11 size. The page setup is 6.5x5.18 in landscape mode. This is soooo confusing. I think I solved your problem. [Once you're done with this, you will have to go back into your Acrobat Distiller printer properties settings and either reset your defaults, or change your paper size and orientation for your next project]. Go into SETTINGS > PRINTERS, and right click on Acrobat Distiller printer icon so you bring up it's properties window. Choose paper. You'll see a bunch of little paper icons. Select CUSTOM P+. Then look for CUSTOM. Click CUSTOM, choose a NAME, and type in your PAGE SIZE. For orientation, select LANDSCAPE. Click okay. Now, go back to your msword doc and print. Choose Acrobat Distiller as your printer. It should work, but if it doesn't feel free to e-mail me directly. I did not have to make any changes in Distiller itself, just the printer driver. It overrides the default page size in Distiller. Whew. They should make this easier. No wonder I'm a macaddict. r|i|c|h _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 22-Jul-1999 23:27:12-GMT,7001;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA06753 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 17:27:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA31758; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 18:23:07 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 22 Jul 1999 18:21:38 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA31628; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 18:21:37 -0500 Message-ID: <005401bed499$4f240cc0$97907018@cr213078a.glph1.on.wave.home.com> From: "Stellactica" To: References: <199907222049.NAA61792@mail.inficad.com> <4.2.0.58.19990722145642.00a5db20@mail-303> Subject: Re: [PDF] Acrobat 4 PDF Maker for Word 97 (Win95) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 19:24:13 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0051_01BED477.C7C62180" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0051_01BED477.C7C62180 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable So what was your solution then ... to return to an older PS driver? ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Dov Isaacs=20 To: Stellactica=20 Cc: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com=20 Sent: July 22, 1999 5:57 PM Subject: Re: [PDF] Acrobat 4 PDF Maker for Word 97 (Win95)=20 The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Yep, if you are using the AdobePS 4.3 driver under Windows'9X, you are hitting the bug that I have been sending out email about. If any other circumstance, I don't know! - Dov At 7/22/99 02:54 PM , Stellactica wrote: >I'm gonna spend some time searching for info on this, honest, but = anyway, are there known issues with this? > =20 >I installed it today and then tried to create a PDF (using the = Distiller option) . The Word doc was approx 180 pages with bookmarks, = hyperlinks, section breaks and page numbering It kept giving an error = msg that it couldn't create the PDF. So I created puny Word file with = one bookmark and created a PDF from it no prob. After that, I copied = about 50 pages from the original doc, tried to create a PDF and got the = can't create message again. > =20 >In addition to that, every time I exit Word after creating a PDF = there are DLL errors and I have to reboot the system. Acrobat 3 was on = the system but I unistalled it before installing 4. > =20 >Any ideas? _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ ------=_NextPart_000_0051_01BED477.C7C62180 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
So what was your solution then ... to return to an = older PS=20 driver?
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Dov = Isaacs
Cc: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com
Sent: July 22, 1999 5:57 = PM
Subject: Re: [PDF] Acrobat 4 = PDF Maker=20 for Word 97 (Win95)


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Yep,=20 if you are using the AdobePS 4.3 driver under Windows'9X, you
are = hitting=20 the bug that I have been sending out email about. If
any other=20 circumstance, I don't=20 know!

         -=20 Dov


At 7/22/99 02:54 PM , Stellactica wrote:
>I'm = gonna spend=20 some time searching for info on this, honest, but anyway, are there = known=20 issues with this?
> 
>I installed it today and then = tried to=20 create a PDF (using the Distiller option) . The Word doc was approx = 180 pages=20 with bookmarks, hyperlinks, section breaks and page numbering It kept = giving=20 an error msg that it couldn't create the PDF. So I created puny Word = file with=20 one bookmark and created a PDF from it no prob. After that, I copied = about 50=20 pages from the original doc, tried to create a PDF and got the can't = create=20 message again.
> 
>In addition to that, every time I = exit=20 Word after creating a PDF there are DLL errors and I have to reboot = the=20 system. Acrobat 3 was on the system but I unistalled it before = installing=20 4.
> 
>Any ideas?

_
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___________________________________________________________ ------=_NextPart_000_0051_01BED477.C7C62180-- _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 23-Jul-1999 1:10:29-GMT,2023;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA09237 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 19:10:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA08375; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 20:07:26 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 22 Jul 1999 20:05:53 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA08171; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 20:05:52 -0500 Message-ID: From: Avhad Ankush-FSGA1923 To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] How to add buttons for a specific function in PDF. Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 09:03:27 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2580.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi PDF masters, We are looking for your help in creating a SEARCH button and an EXIT button, which will function once the PageMaker file is a *.pdf file. I know how to use the binoculars in Acrobat Reader, but I would like to create a script that performs this function with just one click. Also, is there a way to create a button that, once pushed, will close out of Acrobat Reader entirely? Regs./Ankush _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 23-Jul-1999 1:32:44-GMT,2763;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA09741 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 19:32:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA10270; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 20:29:59 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 22 Jul 1999 20:27:30 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA10136; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 20:27:29 -0500 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19990723012733.0097db58@env-sol.com> X-Sender: thiersch@env-sol.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 18:27:33 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Tom Thiersch Subject: Re: [PDF] How to add buttons for a specific function in PDF. Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ You can do both of these by creating LINKs of the "Execute Menu Item" variety. In first one would invoke the Tools>Find command; the second one would invoke the File>Exit command. If you want SEARCH (instead of FIND), you can do this with a similar LINK to the Tools>Search>Query command. Tom At 09:03 AM 7/23/99 +0800, you wrote: > >The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ >__________________________________________________________________ > >Hi PDF masters, > >We are looking for your help in creating a SEARCH button and an EXIT button, >which will function once the PageMaker file is a *.pdf file. > >I know how to use the binoculars in Acrobat Reader, but I would like to >create a script that performs this function with just one click. > >Also, is there a way to create a button that, once pushed, will close out of >Acrobat Reader entirely? > >Regs./Ankush > > >_ >____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ ><- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> > <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> >___________________________________________________________ > _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 23-Jul-1999 4:50:30-GMT,4296;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA14154 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 22:50:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA26707; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 23:44:59 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 22 Jul 1999 23:40:22 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA26313; Thu, 22 Jul 1999 23:40:20 -0500 Message-ID: <00EF773582D6D111939D00A0C9A92F640465ED97@il0015exch003u.ih.lucent.com> From: "Farrell, Kevin (Kevin)" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] Acrobat 4 PDF Maker for Word 97 (Win95) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 23:40:17 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----_=_NextPart_000_01BED4C5.76C198FC" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_000_01BED4C5.76C198FC Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Dov, Thanks for the info you provided on this. I've encountered similar stuff but don't have all day to sit and figure it out. I too had Exchange 3.02 installed and encountered similar problems and figured it as just me.... You mentioned the driver issue, but you didn't specify what you thought the best driver ver was. Can you please provide what you consider to be the best PS driver to date? I'm using Win 95 and uninstalled acro 3.02 before the new release. Kevin ------_=_NextPart_000_01BED4C5.76C198FC Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Description: Re: [PDF] Acrobat 4 PDF Maker for Word 97 (Win95) Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.19990722145642.00a5db20@mail-303> From: Dov Isaacs Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com To: Stellactica Cc: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Acrobat 4 PDF Maker for Word 97 (Win95) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 16:57:54 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Yep, if you are using the AdobePS 4.3 driver under Windows'9X, you are hitting the bug that I have been sending out email about. If any other circumstance, I don't know! - Dov At 7/22/99 02:54 PM , Stellactica wrote: >I'm gonna spend some time searching for info on this, honest, but anyway, are there known issues with this? > >I installed it today and then tried to create a PDF (using the Distiller option) . The Word doc was approx 180 pages with bookmarks, hyperlinks, section breaks and page numbering It kept giving an error msg that it couldn't create the PDF. So I created puny Word file with one bookmark and created a PDF from it no prob. After that, I copied about 50 pages from the original doc, tried to create a PDF and got the can't create message again. > >In addition to that, every time I exit Word after creating a PDF there are DLL errors and I have to reboot the system. Acrobat 3 was on the system but I unistalled it before installing 4. > >Any ideas? _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ ------_=_NextPart_000_01BED4C5.76C198FC-- _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 23-Jul-1999 6:01:27-GMT,2309;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA15755 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 00:01:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA31927; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 00:58:18 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 23 Jul 1999 00:54:09 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA31693; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 00:54:08 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19990723085047.006ccafc@in.zahav.net.il> X-Sender: siroth@in.zahav.net.il X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 08:50:47 +0300 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Simchah Roth Subject: [PDF] Windows 98 & Acrobat 4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Although I have been using Acrobat successfully for some time now (a complete amateur) I have now encountered a difficulty. Recently I updated to Windows 98 and Acrobat 4 (almost simultaneously). The result: Files from my favourite Word Processor will no longer distill properly (only the colour background graphics come through, but no text - which for my purposes is the main thing). Files from two other Word Processors successfully transfer to pdf, but almost always the fonts come through "fuzzy". I have tried unsuccessfully upping the dpi, but this doesn't really seem to help. I am very loath to uninstall Acrobat 4 and reinstall Acrobat 3. Can anyone help with a solution? Simchah Roth, Herzliyya, Israel siroth@inter.net.il _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 23-Jul-1999 8:05:34-GMT,2329;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA18599 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 02:05:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA07389; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 03:02:56 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 23 Jul 1999 02:58:33 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA06932; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 02:58:31 -0500 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: GIF format (Was Re: [PDF] Re: Graphics file formats) In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 22 Jul 1999 16:11:59 EDT." <3.0.5.32.19990722161159.008c0c60@pop.iglou.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 08:58:19 +0100 Message-ID: <15659.932716699@MessagingDirect.com> From: Chris Ridd Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ On Thu, 22 Jul 1999 16:11:59 EDT, Steve Rindsberg wrote: > The copy of the GIF spec I have is old and too verbally murky for me to > penetrate very far w/o elephant gun and camouflage gear, but it appears > that GIFs are 256-color, period. No. Pixels can be represented using a smaller number of bits than 8. The spec calls this the "Code Size". There is a note about 1-bit images requiring a code size of 2, but otherwise the code size is the number of bits per pixel. Also, there is a colour (color) look-up table. This can have up to 256 entries. Thus GIFs are always indexed colour (color) images, but can vary from 1-bit to 8-bit. My advice: use PNG :-) Chris _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 23-Jul-1999 8:48:37-GMT,2946;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA19495 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 02:48:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA10200; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 03:45:41 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 23 Jul 1999 03:41:47 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA09985; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 03:41:44 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: lma@popmail.gol.com (Unverified) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 17:39:52 +0900 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Lew Mark-Andrews Subject: [PDF] "Cascading" password protection Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi all, I need to password-protect the opening of several separate PDFs in a set on a CD. For sake of example, the set comprises one "contents" file (the normal point of entry to the set) plus all the individual "chapter" files. -- For want of a better word (master password?), I've used "cascading" to mean once one file's ("contents") password is entered, any other protected files ("chapters") opened from links in that "contents" file would not require entry of their own passwords. -- However, any individual "chapter" file opened directly (i.e., not from a link in the "contents" file) would require its own password to open. -- In short, users would be required to enter only one password to view all files in the set if they open starting with the "contents" file. Numbers and sizes of files are much too large to combine the full set into one big password-protected file. Is there any way to achieve such a scheme? Actions that would fill in passwords of files to be opened? Third-party solutions? Any and all suggestions would be much appreciated. TIA and regards, Lew =================================================== Image Arts, Inc. -- Design & Development for Print + Multimedia + Web -- Anytime: mailto:lma@gol.com Business: mailto:lew@imagearts.com Website: http://www.imagearts.com ------ Innovative Solutions for Integrated Media ------ =================================================== _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 23-Jul-1999 9:49:47-GMT,2177;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA20852 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 03:49:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA14348; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 04:46:31 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 23 Jul 1999 04:43:36 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA14156; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 04:43:33 -0500 Message-ID: <70E1AAAB2092D211925E00A0C98B59380289D3@KOMMUNIKATION> From: Stenitzer Michael To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] forms and reader3 Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 11:43:25 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ hi, i have developed a large form with acrobat 4. to submit the form-data i included a submit button, inserting a javascript to mail the fdf to my adress. but most of my users still use acrobat 3 readers. how can i implement the submit function to mail the results to me? michael ---------------------------------- DI Michael Stenitzer Energieverwertungsagentur - E.V.A. 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E-Mail News: http://www.eva.wsr.ac.at/abo.htm _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 23-Jul-1999 10:46:48-GMT,2235;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA22080 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 04:46:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA17915; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 05:41:05 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 23 Jul 1999 05:38:20 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA17747; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 05:38:19 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] forms and reader3 Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 11:38:40 +0100 Message-ID: <003601bed4f7$87dd7200$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 In-Reply-To: <70E1AAAB2092D211925E00A0C98B59380289D3@KOMMUNIKATION> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > i have developed a large form with acrobat 4. > to submit the form-data i included a submit button, > inserting a javascript > to mail the fdf to my adress. > > but most of my users still use acrobat 3 readers. how can i > implement the > submit function to mail the results to me? This will work only with Acrobat 4 -and- will not work with the free Reader 4.0 either. You must do as in previous releases: submit the form to a CGI script on a web server. Aandi _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 23-Jul-1999 12:22:33-GMT,1984;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA24082 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 06:22:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA25020; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 07:19:28 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 23 Jul 1999 07:15:55 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA24639; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 07:15:53 -0500 Message-Id: <199907231215.FAA23453@mail.inficad.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 05:15:52 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Windows 98 & Acrobat 4 From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > Files from my favourite Word Processor will no longer distill properly > (only the colour background graphics come through, but no text - which for > my purposes is the main thing). > > Files from two other Word Processors successfully transfer to pdf, but > almost always the fonts come through "fuzzy". > Are you choosing the Distiller Printer when you create your pdf? r|i|c|h _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 23-Jul-1999 13:26:40-GMT,2317;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA25555 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 07:26:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA30799; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 08:23:48 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 23 Jul 1999 08:22:43 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA30683; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 08:22:42 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990723092642.008bd740@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 09:26:42 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: GIF format (Was Re: [PDF] Re: Graphics file formats) In-Reply-To: <15659.932716699@MessagingDirect.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >The spec calls this the "Code Size". There is a note about 1-bit images >requiring a code size of 2, but otherwise the code size is the number >of bits per pixel. > Thanks for the clarification, Chris. Given the file sizes when saved from PShop as 1-bit or 8-bit indexed, it appears that PShop is converting to the latter on save no matter what. Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 23-Jul-1999 13:28:44-GMT,2340;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA25579 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 07:28:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA30587; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 08:21:38 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 23 Jul 1999 08:20:09 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA30270; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 08:20:06 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990723092404.00882100@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 09:24:04 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] How to add buttons for a specific function in PDF. In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >I know how to use the binoculars in Acrobat Reader, but I would like to >create a script that performs this function with just one click. > >Also, is there a way to create a button that, once pushed, will close out of >Acrobat Reader entirely? > Either one's quite simple in Exchange. Select the links tool, draw a new link. For Action, choose Execute Menu Item. Choose the menu item you want from the resulting dialog, then Set Link. Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 23-Jul-1999 13:31:06-GMT,2904;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA25653 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 07:31:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA31366; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 08:28:44 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 23 Jul 1999 08:27:38 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA31150; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 08:27:37 -0500 Message-ID: <97B11CC2DFF7D211A7D30050041EA7700C7ED0@keg.aus.frco.com> From: "Riley, Ron [FRS/AUS]" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Cc: "Riley, Ron [FRS/AUS]" Subject: Re: [PDF] disabling launch popup Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 08:10:17 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ It doesn't seem like much of a safety feature if it can be disabled by selecting "All" the first time it appears. I find it a great annoyance, particularly as I am trying to integrate some information already in Winhelp format into a PDF document. Ron Riley Ron.Riley@Austin.frco.com -----Original Message----- From: Max Wyss [mailto:prodok@prodok.ch] Sent: Thursday, July 22, 1999 5:22 PM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Cc: Riley, Ron [FRS/AUS] Subject: Re: [PDF] disabling launch popup This question comes up about twice a week nowadays. That dialog is an important Safety feature of Acrobat. In fact, it is the only one which would detect the start of unwanted and dangerous applications. So, would you disable the Emergency Stop buttons on your machinery? Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch [ Bridging the Knowledge Gap ] ______________________ >I'm trying to launch an application (winhelp) from a pdf file. A >confirmation dialog appears cautioning that Acrobat is about to launch the >application. Is there any way to disable this confirmation dialog >permanently so users won't have to see it? > _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 23-Jul-1999 13:31:24-GMT,2365;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA25662 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 07:31:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA29981; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 08:16:37 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 23 Jul 1999 08:13:37 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA29764; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 08:13:35 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990723091735.008cb400@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 09:17:35 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] file size using Distiller? In-Reply-To: <045F13797750F21F*/c=US/admd=mci/prmd=marshmc/o=email/ou=No tesWREN/s=Kahn/g=Stacey/@MHS> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >When I use PDFWriter to generate the PDF file, the file size is around >2-3 MB. Fine. But when I use Distiller, the file size is 12 MB. >Problem is, I need to generate links between the TOC and body pages >within the document -- I need to be using Distiller. > Changing the TOC settings and all that shouldn't have much of an effect on file size, but have you compared the Distiller vs. PDFWriter settings for graphics compression? That'd be the first place I'd look. Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 23-Jul-1999 14:38:07-GMT,2260;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA27169 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 08:38:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA05637; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 09:33:22 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 23 Jul 1999 09:31:48 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA05495; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 09:31:46 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19990723172723.006b3c5c@in.zahav.net.il> X-Sender: siroth@in.zahav.net.il X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 17:27:23 +0300 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com, pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Simchah Roth Subject: Re: [PDF] Windows 98 & Acrobat 4 In-Reply-To: <199907231215.FAA23453@mail.inficad.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Rich Sprague wrote: >>Are you choosing the Distiller Printer when you create your pdf?<< Thank you, Rich, for asking. I cannot use pdfwriter since the files contain graphics, therefore I am perforce using the Acrobat Distiller. Any ideas? I had written: >> Files from my favourite Word Processor will no longer distill properly (only the colour background graphics come through, but no text - which for my purposes is the main thing). Files from two other Word Processors successfully transfer to pdf, but almost always the fonts come through "fuzzy".<< Simchah Roth, Herzliyya, Israel siroth@inter.net.il _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 23-Jul-1999 14:41:51-GMT,2532;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA27243 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 08:41:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA06083; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 09:38:31 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 23 Jul 1999 09:37:15 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA05947; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 09:37:12 -0500 Message-Id: <199907231437.HAA43225@mail.inficad.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 07:37:06 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Windows 98 & Acrobat 4 From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com CC: siroth@in.zahav.net.il Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > Rich Sprague wrote: > >>>Are you choosing the Distiller Printer when you create your pdf?<< > > Thank you, Rich, for asking. > > I cannot use pdfwriter since the files contain graphics, therefore I am > perforce using the Acrobat Distiller. > > Any ideas? > > I had written: >>> Files from my favourite Word Processor will no longer distill properly > (only the colour background graphics come through, but no text - which for > my purposes is the main thing). Files from two other Word Processors > successfully transfer to pdf, but almost always the fonts come through > "fuzzy".<< > > Simchah Roth, Herzliyya, Israel > siroth@inter.net.il Assuming you are on a pc, when you go to print you select Acrobat Distiller as your printer. It will print the ps file you need, and distill automatically. Please advise the platform and exact steps you take when making your pdf, including settings. r|i|c|h _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 23-Jul-1999 16:34:48-GMT,2360;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA00024 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 10:34:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA17443; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 11:31:06 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 23 Jul 1999 11:27:27 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA17035; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 11:27:26 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] disabling launch popup Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 17:27:47 +0100 Message-ID: <003c01bed528$4cf22ba0$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 In-Reply-To: <97B11CC2DFF7D211A7D30050041EA7700C7ED0@keg.aus.frco.com> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > It doesn't seem like much of a safety feature if it can be disabled by > selecting "All" the first time it appears. I find it a great > annoyance, > particularly as I am trying to integrate some information > already in Winhelp > format into a PDF document. It is a safety feature because the USER has to make that decision. (Admittedly users are not necessarily well enough informed to make that decision, and people take off safety guards too). If there were any way, any way at all, the document creator could make that decision the protection would be completely useless. Aandi _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 23-Jul-1999 18:47:17-GMT,1966;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA03195 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 12:47:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA29818; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 13:36:50 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 23 Jul 1999 13:34:37 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA29666; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 13:34:35 -0500 Message-ID: <3798B5A6.87C0EAD4@adobe.com> Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 11:34:14 -0700 From: Roberto Perelman Organization: Adobe Systems Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] forms and reader3 References: <70E1AAAB2092D211925E00A0C98B59380289D3@KOMMUNIKATION> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > i have developed a large form with acrobat 4. > to submit the form-data i included a submit button, inserting a javascript > to mail the fdf to my adress. > > but most of my users still use acrobat 3 readers. how can i implement the > submit function to mail the results to me? Submit to a "mailto:" URL _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 24-Jul-1999 0:34:53-GMT,2699;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA11190 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 18:34:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA03276; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 19:32:00 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 23 Jul 1999 19:29:08 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA02879; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 19:29:04 -0500 From: "Lisa" To: Subject: [PDF] Rotate Landscape Problem in NT Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 19:28:52 -0500 Message-ID: <000101bed56b$81907ea0$08646464@mpg> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Distiller 4 WILL NOT rotate AutoCAD R13 print to landscape under Windows NT 4 SP3, SP4, or SP 5. Distiller 4 WILL rotate the same file for Windows 95 SP2, but I cannot force output to monochrome under 95. Distiller 4 WILL rotate (landscape) fine for Microsoft Office apps, Notepad etc. under NT4. No matter the combination of Landscape/Portrait/Rotated Distiller setup and AutoCAD rotated 0, 90, 270 degrees, the ASCII output of Distiller will always output a "/Rotate 0" if run under Windows NT. If I edit the PDF with Notepad, Wordpad, or a Search & Replace util, I will get a "file damaged" message, and Acrobat will fix it. This can't be fixed with the Reader, of course. I would just rotate manually, but I am trying to batch-print some 20,000 AutoCAD drawings. All of my scripting is in place and works fine, but I can't get Distiller to output anything other than "/Rotate 0" under NT. I am very nearly in tears over this... can someone tell me what I have missed??? TIA Lisa mailto:lisa@pro-ns.net _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 24-Jul-1999 11:18:41-GMT,1960;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA24611 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 1999 05:18:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA18794; Sat, 24 Jul 1999 06:14:14 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 24 Jul 1999 06:09:27 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA18373; Sat, 24 Jul 1999 06:09:26 -0500 Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1999 19:09:20 +0800 (WST) From: Ward Scarff To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] pdf causing "read only" problem within PAgeMill? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Pagemill 3's site management function is alerting me that some files within the site are read only. I've narrowed it down to numerous .pdf's I have within the site. Adobe support on the web explains how to change properties of files that cause the read only problem, but there is no reference to how to take the read only status off .pdf's. Has anyone got a workaround for this? Ward in Perth scarffam@opera.iinet.net.au _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 24-Jul-1999 11:31:31-GMT,2309;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA24879 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 1999 05:31:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA19848; Sat, 24 Jul 1999 06:28:38 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 24 Jul 1999 06:27:20 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA19791; Sat, 24 Jul 1999 06:27:20 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] pdf causing "read only" problem within PAgeMill? Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1999 12:27:33 +0100 Message-ID: <000401bed5c7$866dbee0$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I *think* the PDF files reported as read-only are actually secure PDFs. I get the message; all files have been checked and are OK. Aandi > > Pagemill 3's site management function is alerting me that some files > within the site are read only. I've narrowed it down to > numerous .pdf's I > have within the site. > > Adobe support on the web explains how to change properties of > files that > cause the > read only problem, but there is no reference to how to take > the read only > status off .pdf's. _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 25-Jul-1999 2:56:56-GMT,2239;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA13915 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 1999 20:56:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA29019; Sat, 24 Jul 1999 21:53:19 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 24 Jul 1999 21:48:50 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA28572; Sat, 24 Jul 1999 21:48:49 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19990725053952.006b6a14@in.zahav.net.il> X-Sender: siroth@in.zahav.net.il X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Sun, 25 Jul 1999 05:39:52 +0300 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Simchah Roth Subject: [PDF] Re: Windows 98 & Acrobat 4 In-Reply-To: <199907231437.HAA43225@mail.inficad.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Rich Sprague wrote: >>ssuming you are on a pc, when you go to print you select Acrobat Distiller as your printer. It will print the ps file you need, and distill automatically.<< I do all this with no problems. >Please advise the platform and exact steps you take when making your pdf, including settings.<< I print the wp file as a ps via the Distiller printer; I then distill the ps file. I have tried all the following settings: Resolution: 600, 300, 150 and 72 dpi Downsampling: 72, 150 and even 600 dpi. Always, however, the fonts come out "fuzzy". Simchah Roth, Herzliyya, Israel siroth@inter.net.il _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 25-Jul-1999 3:01:21-GMT,2377;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA14019 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 1999 21:01:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA29415; Sat, 24 Jul 1999 21:58:31 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 24 Jul 1999 21:57:17 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA29324; Sat, 24 Jul 1999 21:57:16 -0500 Message-Id: <199907250256.TAA87760@mail.inficad.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1999 19:56:51 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Re: Windows 98 & Acrobat 4 From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com CC: siroth@inter.net.il Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >> Rich Sprague wrote: > >> Assuming you are on a pc, when you go to print you select Acrobat >> Distiller as your printer. It will print the ps file you need, and distill >> automatically.<< > > I do all this with no problems. > >> Please advise the platform and exact steps you take when making your pdf, >> including settings.<< > > I print the wp file as a ps via the Distiller printer; I then distill the > ps file. I have tried all the following settings: > > Resolution: 600, 300, 150 and 72 dpi > Downsampling: 72, 150 and even 600 dpi. > > Always, however, the fonts come out "fuzzy". > > Simchah Roth, Herzliyya, Israel > siroth@inter.net.il E-mail me a sample pdf file, and I *should* be able to help you resolve the problem. r|i|c|h _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 25-Jul-1999 8:34:17-GMT,2532;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA21165 for ; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 02:34:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA18964; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 03:29:36 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 25 Jul 1999 03:26:07 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA18736; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 03:26:04 -0500 Message-ID: From: Duff Johnson To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Re: Windows 98 & Acrobat 4 Date: Sun, 25 Jul 1999 01:30:23 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >I print the wp file as a ps via the Distiller printer; I then distill >the >ps file. I have tried all the following settings: > >Resolution: 600, 300, 150 and 72 dpi >Downsampling: 72, 150 and even 600 dpi. > >Always, however, the fonts come out "fuzzy". That's because resolution and downsampling have nothing to do with fonts. I'm guessing you have fonts encoded to the PDF as "Type 3," and rendered as ugly bitmaps instead of nice, clean vectors, the way they should be! Check the document font list (In Acrobat Exchange, File->Document Info->Fonts) for Type 3's. You may be able to shoehorn your original font into the PDF, or you may have to replace or substitute the problem font in the original document. Or, the original document itself may not have all the used fonts available to it. Whatever else, you have a font management, not a resolution/downsampling issue here. Duff Johnson Document Solutions, Inc. www.document-solutions.com _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 25-Jul-1999 21:12:58-GMT,3402;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA06786 for ; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 15:12:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA11204; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 16:07:37 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 25 Jul 1999 16:03:50 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA10819; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 16:03:47 -0500 From: "Ken Silver" To: Subject: [PDF] IE problem opening Distiller-made PDFs Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 09:03:38 +1200 Message-ID: <000001bed6e1$2b2233c0$fc8e4fd1@ksilver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19990725053952.006b6a14@in.zahav.net.il> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I've spent some long hours attempting to solve this problem, using the various references on Adobe's pages and posts from this board without success, so I hope someone can help me out of my dilemma. I have successfully uploaded my Windows PageMaker PDF files, made with Distiller, via Claris HomePage. There are two problems: 1) When I test download a file in IE 4, no dialogue box appears to show what is happening. Instead, the browser page goes white blank and the cursor turns into the standard hourglass. The status bar at the bottom of IE gives just a basic indicator of what is happening. 2) The PDF file opens in an Acrobat Reader application within IE quite OK. However, when I save the file in Reader (Save As... there are no right click options), and then attempt to open it again from the desktop, a dialogue appears saying there is an "error (111)." There are no problems whatsoever when I use Netscape 4... the PDF file can be saved and opened normally. I have also restarted windows 98 with a bare start-up folder in case there are any conflicts - there are none. My files have to run on as many versions of Explorer and Netscape as possible... any help here to my problem? Thanks, Ken Silver The "How-To" Guru! ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Digital Book Author "How To Make $100,000 A Year Part-Time Creating How-To Manuals At Home." Read the first chapter and contents FREE! Visit: http://www.ksilver.com Member of the Self Publishing Association of New Zealand Join me on the Ken Silver Online Forum: http://network54.com/Forum/11488 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 25-Jul-1999 22:13:09-GMT,2189;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA08036 for ; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 16:13:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA16236; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 17:07:48 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 25 Jul 1999 17:06:09 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA16047; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 17:06:06 -0500 Message-Id: <199907252206.PAA18607@mail.inficad.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Sun, 25 Jul 1999 15:06:01 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Re: Windows 98 & Acrobat 4 From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >>Always, however, the fonts come out "fuzzy". > > That's because resolution and downsampling have nothing to do with fonts. > I'm guessing you have fonts encoded to the PDF as "Type 3," and rendered as > ugly bitmaps instead of nice, clean vectors, the way they should be! > > Whatever else, you have a font management, not a resolution/downsampling > issue here. > > Duff Johnson > Document Solutions, Inc. Duff's right. The document had a nice selection of Type 3 fonts. Unfortunately, they don't look nice in pdf files. Moral to the story...lose the Type 3 fonts. r|i|c|h _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 25-Jul-1999 22:15:53-GMT,1947;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA08121 for ; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 16:15:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA16490; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 17:11:04 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 25 Jul 1999 17:09:56 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA16378; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 17:09:55 -0500 Message-Id: <199907252209.PAA19223@mail.inficad.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Sun, 25 Jul 1999 15:09:52 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Re: Windows 98 & Acrobat 4 From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > I apologize if I seem out of line... in my 3.5 years on the list, you stand > out as a real contributor. I'm just offering a thought... take it or leave > it. Thanks for the e-mail and the compliment. In the future I will not send a message to the entire list, unless I include some analysis or suggested fixes. Take care. r|i|c|h _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 25-Jul-1999 23:49:05-GMT,3356;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA10100 for ; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 17:49:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA24388; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 18:45:50 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 25 Jul 1999 18:44:39 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA24312; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 18:44:38 -0500 From: "Ken Silver" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Re: Windows 98 & Acrobat 4 Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 11:44:18 +1200 Message-ID: <000301bed6f7$9cd7b100$fc8e4fd1@ksilver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <199907252206.PAA18607@mail.inficad.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > [mailto:owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com]On > Behalf Of Rich Sprague > Sent: Monday, July 26, 1999 10:06 AM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: Re: [PDF] Re: Windows 98 & Acrobat 4 > > > > The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > > >>Always, however, the fonts come out "fuzzy". > > > > That's because resolution and downsampling have nothing > to do with fonts. > > I'm guessing you have fonts encoded to the PDF as "Type > 3," and rendered as > > ugly bitmaps instead of nice, clean vectors, the way they > should be! Now that's interesting... I had the same problem yesterday. A Pagemaker document set in Arial produced a perfect screen-defined PDF, but when I changed to Helvetica it produced the same fuzziness described here. It didn't seem to be a bitmap problem, as it certainly appeared 'fuzzy' - rather than having the familiar stepped bitmap effect. As I use Distiller with Pagemaker, and there doesn't seem to be any font encoding instructions with either program, how can I prevent this happening? Ken Silver The "How-To" Guru! ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Digital Book Author "How To Make $100,000 A Year Part-Time Creating How-To Manuals At Home." Read the first chapter and contents FREE! Visit: http://www.ksilver.com Member of the Self Publishing Association of New Zealand Join me on the Ken Silver Online Forum: http://network54.com/Forum/11488 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 25-Jul-1999 23:49:06-GMT,3288;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA10102 for ; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 17:49:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA24114; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 18:41:57 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 25 Jul 1999 18:40:20 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA23873; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 18:40:10 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] IE problem opening Distiller-made PDFs Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 00:40:34 +0100 Message-ID: <001b01bed6f7$17d12040$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 In-Reply-To: <000001bed6e1$2b2233c0$fc8e4fd1@ksilver> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > 1) When I test download a file in IE 4, no dialogue box appears to > show what is happening. Instead, the browser page goes white blank and > the cursor turns into the standard hourglass. The status bar at the > bottom of IE gives just a basic indicator of what is happening. That is as designed. > > 2) The PDF file opens in an Acrobat Reader application within IE quite > OK. However, when I save the file in Reader (Save As... there are no > right click options), and then attempt to open it again from the > desktop, a dialogue appears saying there is an "error (111)." This is NOT saving the file in Reader. When you are viewing a PDF file in IE, and select SAVE AS, IE saves something. But it does not save the PDF file you are viewing, and this is useless. You have to use RIGHT CLICK saving. This should work, but perhaps you are making the mistake of right clicking WHILE viewing the PDF file. You must right click on the LINK to a PDF file, before (or after) viewing it. This is also the recommended technique for Netscape, though Netscape does seem to save correct copies of the file with SAVE AS too. > > There are no problems whatsoever when I use Netscape 4... the PDF file > can be saved and opened normally. I have also restarted windows 98 > with a bare start-up folder in case there are any conflicts - there > are none. > > My files have to run on as many versions of Explorer and Netscape as > possible... any help here to my problem? Your files sound fine, and work as expected. Aandi _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 26-Jul-1999 0:05:56-GMT,3013;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA10460 for ; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 18:05:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA25883; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 19:01:29 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 25 Jul 1999 19:00:09 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA25608; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 19:00:07 -0500 Message-ID: From: Duff Johnson To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Re: Windows 98 & Acrobat 4 Date: Sun, 25 Jul 1999 17:04:08 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > > >>Always, however, the fonts come out "fuzzy". > > > > > > That's because resolution and downsampling have nothing > > to do with fonts. > > > I'm guessing you have fonts encoded to the PDF as "Type > > 3," and rendered as > > > ugly bitmaps instead of nice, clean vectors, the way they > > should be! > > Now that's interesting... I had the same problem yesterday. A > Pagemaker document set in Arial produced a perfect screen-defined PDF, > but when I changed to Helvetica it produced the same fuzziness > described here. Remember, fonts are comprised of vectors, not bitmap images. Resolution is irrelevant to vector objects for the purposes of PDF creation. > It didn't seem to be a bitmap problem, as it certainly appeared > 'fuzzy' - rather than having the familiar stepped bitmap effect. > > As I use Distiller with Pagemaker, and there doesn't seem to be any > font encoding instructions with either program, how can I prevent this > happening? First, follow the instructions I gave earlier to examine your PDF for font usage. I'm not sure why Helvetica would bitmap on you (seems unlikely, but anything is possible)... but you need to start with knowing the font usage in your PDF. Then, you need to configure Distiller to manage the fonts the way you want them (yes, this is possible). No substitute for reading the manual.... Duff Johnson President, Document Solutions, Inc. http://www.document-solutions.com _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 26-Jul-1999 2:03:54-GMT,3900;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA13080 for ; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 20:03:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA02710; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 21:00:22 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 25 Jul 1999 20:58:48 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA02582; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 20:58:47 -0500 From: "Ken Silver" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] IE problem opening Distiller-made PDFs Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 13:58:47 +1200 Message-ID: <000101bed70a$65e98480$e5304ed1@ksilver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <001b01bed6f7$17d12040$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > > 1) When I test download a file in IE 4, no dialogue box > appears to > > show what is happening. Instead, the browser page goes > white blank and > > the cursor turns into the standard hourglass. The status > bar at the > > bottom of IE gives just a basic indicator of what is happening. > That is as designed. Aandi, I've downloaded many other PDF files, and have always seen the standard file transferred dialogue appear in Explorer. Is there a way to make this happen with my downloads? I feel it is pretty important to have a better indicator than the standard cursor watch... gives you better confidence in the downloading process. > > > > 2) The PDF file opens in an Acrobat Reader application > within IE quite > > OK. However, when I save the file in Reader (Save As... > there are no > > right click options), and then attempt to open it again from the > > desktop, a dialogue appears saying there is an "error (111)." > > This is NOT saving the file in Reader. When you are viewing > a PDF file > in IE, and select SAVE AS, IE saves something. But it does not save > the PDF file you are viewing, and this is useless. > > You have to use RIGHT CLICK saving. This should work, but > perhaps you > are making the mistake of right clicking WHILE viewing the PDF file. > You must right click on the LINK to a PDF file, before (or after) > viewing it. Boy, if this is confusing to me - an internet veteran of five years and a Mac user for the last 15 years (but a newbie to Explorer on a PC), imagine how my freshman downloaders are going to react to these somewhat complex instructions. There has to be a better way! Have you any suggestions about a simpler process? Thanks for your help, Ken Silver The "How-To" Guru! ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Digital Book Author "How To Make $100,000 A Year Part-Time Creating How-To Manuals At Home." Read the first chapter and contents FREE! Visit: http://www.ksilver.com Member of the Self Publishing Association of New Zealand Join me on the Ken Silver Online Forum: http://network54.com/Forum/11488 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 26-Jul-1999 2:08:09-GMT,3196;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA13207 for ; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 20:08:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA03235; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 21:05:01 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 25 Jul 1999 21:03:50 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA03123; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 21:03:49 -0500 Message-ID: <379BC179.F4C443A0@dconstructs.com> Date: Sun, 25 Jul 1999 22:01:29 -0400 From: "Robert E. Moran" Organization: Digital Constructs Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "pdf@lists.pdfzone.com" Subject: [PDF] Perplexing problem Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------7EAD3BD960024A77A180B484" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------7EAD3BD960024A77A180B484 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am having a very strange problem with Acrobat 3.01 on a Mac. When I tried to invoke Search, the app state it cannot initialize it's Search engine. I reinstalled Exchange but still the same message. Question, could be cause by my creating a custom field in Catalog for testing purposes. I have worked with Acrobat for years but this one has me stumped. Any help would be most appreciated. Am working with System 7.61 and Acro works in every way except for this. R. Moran -- Robert E. Moran Digital Constructs Inc. 759 North Park Avenue Redding, CT 06896 Tel 203-452-1116 203-452-8085 Fax: 203-452-0416 E-Mail remoran@dconstructs.com http://www.dconstructs.com "Confusion is a misapprehension of a higher order" - Henry Miller --------------7EAD3BD960024A77A180B484 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="remoran.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Robert E. 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Moran end:vcard --------------7EAD3BD960024A77A180B484-- _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 26-Jul-1999 6:27:13-GMT,1683;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA19225 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 00:27:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA21485; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 01:19:22 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 26 Jul 1999 01:13:54 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA21176; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 01:13:53 -0500 Message-ID: <19990726061024.28096.rocketmail@web215.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 02:10:24 -0400 (EDT) From: Shyam Dhage Subject: [PDF] Re: pdf-digest for July-25-99 [V2 #574] To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Please Stop the PDF-Digest Subscription. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 26-Jul-1999 6:50:57-GMT,3088;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA19761 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 00:50:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA23357; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 01:45:13 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 26 Jul 1999 01:42:47 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA23179; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 01:42:46 -0500 Message-ID: <001001bed732$da783440$214315a5@pc33> From: "Dr. Cheng" To: "PDF Zone Online" Subject: [PDF] Enable background in PDF document Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 14:47:03 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000D_01BED775.B97EE840" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01BED775.B97EE840 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Is there any way to add background to a PDF file? I have a word document and I convert the document into PDF using PDF = writer. But when I add background to the word document, after converted = to PDF, the background doesn't show. Please Help Thanks, Sandy ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01BED775.B97EE840 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_000D_01BED775.B97EE840-- _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 26-Jul-1999 8:52:43-GMT,4680;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA22423 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 02:52:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA31424; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 03:48:01 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 26 Jul 1999 03:43:44 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA31160; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 03:43:44 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] IE problem opening Distiller-made PDFs Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 09:44:06 +0100 Message-ID: <002a01bed743$05e49640$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 In-Reply-To: <000101bed70a$65e98480$e5304ed1@ksilver> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > > > 1) When I test download a file in IE 4, no dialogue box > > appears to > > > show what is happening. Instead, the browser page goes > > white blank and > > > the cursor turns into the standard hourglass. The status > > bar at the > > > bottom of IE gives just a basic indicator of what is happening. > > > That is as designed. > > Aandi, I've downloaded many other PDF files, and have always seen the > standard file transferred dialogue appear in Explorer. Is there a way > to make this happen with my downloads? I feel it is pretty important > to have a better indicator than the standard cursor watch... gives you > better confidence in the downloading process. Could you post the address of a. A web page containing a PDF link which does this (which one)? b. Your own page Check first that what you describe happens, because that is not my usual experience when Reader is correctly installed. > > > > > > 2) The PDF file opens in an Acrobat Reader application > > within IE quite > > > OK. However, when I save the file in Reader (Save As... > > there are no > > > right click options), and then attempt to open it again from the > > > desktop, a dialogue appears saying there is an "error (111)." > > > > This is NOT saving the file in Reader. When you are viewing > > a PDF file > > in IE, and select SAVE AS, IE saves something. But it does not save > > the PDF file you are viewing, and this is useless. > > > > You have to use RIGHT CLICK saving. This should work, but > > perhaps you > > are making the mistake of right clicking WHILE viewing the PDF file. > > You must right click on the LINK to a PDF file, before (or after) > > viewing it. > > Boy, if this is confusing to me - an internet veteran of five years > and a Mac user for the last 15 years (but a newbie to Explorer on a > PC), imagine how my freshman downloaders are going to react to these > somewhat complex instructions. There has to be a better way! Have you > any suggestions about a simpler process? Really, that is the way it is. You should add simple instructions for how to save a PDF file using the major browsers on both Mac and Windows. There is NOTHING you can change in your HTML which affects this. The decision on how a file is viewed or downloaded is ENTIRELY made by the user and their browser. If a user is going to want to save PDF files from the web they are going to have to face and learn this issue. It's a pity IE doesn't provide a SAVE AS that works as expected, but we have to live with that. Some people will suggest zipping the file instead, but this is in my view very unhelpful to your users, who now have to learn all about unzipping too. Another tip, though: if your users are running Acrobat Reader 4.0 a new SAVE icon will appear on their Acrobat Reader toolbar. It may be worth mentioning this, but it is not usually a good idea to advise people to upgrade unnecessarily. Aandi _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 26-Jul-1999 9:42:06-GMT,2658;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA23529 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 03:42:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA02397; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 04:39:22 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 26 Jul 1999 04:36:47 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA02206; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 04:36:45 -0500 Message-ID: <70E1AAAB2092D211925E00A0C98B59380289DB@KOMMUNIKATION> From: Stenitzer Michael To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] printing PDF files: just the first page is printed Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 11:35:56 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ hi, some of my clients report, that they can view all pages but print only the first page of a document. does anybody have a clue? (these docs were made with acrobat 3) michael > -----Original Message----- > From: Stenitzer Michael > Sent: Friday, July 23, 1999 11:43 AM > To: 'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com' > Subject: forms and reader3 > > hi, > > i have developed a large form with acrobat 4. > to submit the form-data i included a submit button, > inserting a javascript to mail the fdf to my adress. > > but most of my users still use acrobat 3 readers. how can i > implement the submit function to mail the results to me? > > michael > > ---------------------------------- > DI Michael Stenitzer > Energieverwertungsagentur - E.V.A. > > Linke Wienzeile 18 > 1060 Wien/Vienna > Austria > E-Mail: stenitzer@eva.wsr.ac.at > WWW: http://www.eva.wsr.ac.at/ > Tel: ++43/1/586 15 24 - 20 > Fax: ++43/1/586 94 88 > > Abonnieren Sie die E.V.A. E-Mail News: http://www.eva.wsr.ac.at/abo.htm _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 26-Jul-1999 11:00:53-GMT,2415;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA25172 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 05:00:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA07608; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 05:57:59 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 26 Jul 1999 05:54:47 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA07370; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 05:54:46 -0500 Message-Id: <379C3E1F.15019339@world.std.com> Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 06:53:19 -0400 From: Bob Boeri Organization: EMedia Professional X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en Mime-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Re: pdf causing "read only" problem within PageMill References: <199907252103.QAA10838@everglades.binc.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi all, I too receive the "read only" warning/error message from PageMill upon trying to upload new files to my site. Interestingly I do not receive the same message when uploading to another site I manage. My site has considerably more PDF files than the other, and in both cases I am using Acrobat 4 (pdfwriter or paper capture) to upload new files to these sites. I have selected all my PDF files (and every other file in the local copy of my site) to assure they are not read-only. I don't understand Andi's response about these files being "secure." I know how to add security to PDF files, but I haven't done so to any of mine. Anybody else receiving this message and have a workaround? -- Bob Boeri http://world.std.com/~bboeri _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 26-Jul-1999 13:21:08-GMT,1753;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA28431 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 07:21:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA19496; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 08:18:35 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 26 Jul 1999 08:15:48 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA19139; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 08:15:47 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19990726161319.006babfc@in.zahav.net.il> X-Sender: siroth@in.zahav.net.il X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 16:13:19 +0300 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Simchah Roth Subject: [PDF] RE: Re: Windows 98 & Acrobat 4 In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Many, many thanks to Duff Johnson and in particular to Rich Sprague. Problem solved. Simchah siroth@inter.net.il _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 26-Jul-1999 15:22:22-GMT,2339;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA01877 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 09:22:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA31149; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 10:16:41 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 26 Jul 1999 10:14:23 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA30952; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 10:14:20 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990726111823.00879950@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 11:18:23 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] IE problem opening Distiller-made PDFs In-Reply-To: <000001bed6e1$2b2233c0$fc8e4fd1@ksilver> References: <3.0.1.32.19990725053952.006b6a14@in.zahav.net.il> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >2) The PDF file opens in an Acrobat Reader application within IE quite >OK. However, when I save the file in Reader (Save As... there are no >right click options), and then attempt to open it again from the >desktop, a dialogue appears saying there is an "error (111)." > You can't save files from Reader. You may be seeing Explorer's Save dialog, IWC you're likely saving some sort of HTML or whatever type of document. Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 26-Jul-1999 15:29:00-GMT,2306;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA02126 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 09:28:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA31820; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 10:21:39 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 26 Jul 1999 10:20:25 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA31542; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 10:20:23 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990726112415.008c3df0@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 11:24:15 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: RE: [PDF] IE problem opening Distiller-made PDFs In-Reply-To: <002a01bed743$05e49640$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> References: <000101bed70a$65e98480$e5304ed1@ksilver> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > >Some people will suggest zipping the file instead, but this is in my >view very unhelpful to your users, who now have to learn all about >unzipping too. > One could distribute self-extracting ZIPs, but then there'd be the problem of creating ZIP self-extracters for PC users, SITs for Mac users and for Unixen. And instructing them to download the correct one. Sigh. Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 26-Jul-1999 16:13:49-GMT,3273;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA03577 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 10:13:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA03500; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 11:06:43 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 26 Jul 1999 11:04:57 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA03352; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 11:04:56 -0500 Message-ID: <697A4CA51395D111A658AA0004005806011D1BE0@NT6> From: "Pottinger, Hardy" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: Re: [PDF] Acrobat 4 PDF Maker for Word 97 (Win95) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 10:57:55 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >section breaks and page numbering It kept giving an error msg that it = >couldn't create the PDF. So I created puny Word file with one bookmark = >and created a PDF from it no prob. After that, I copied about 50 pages = >from the original doc, tried to create a PDF and got the can't create = >message again. >In addition to that, every time I exit Word after creating a PDF there = >are DLL errors and I have to reboot the system. Acrobat 3 was on the = First a note, and then I have to chime in with an annoyance I've discovered with the 4.0 version of PDF Maker. RE: DLL errors and other error messages/odd behavior... I've noticed that if one is running Exchange while Distiller is doing its thing, often times all manner of odd things can happen. Usually, it's just bizarre font spacing problems, but sometimes I've seen DLL errors, and also the 'cannot create' message. These messages/behaviors have always vanished if I reattempt to distill without Exchange running. This was with Exchange 3.01... I haven't used Acrobat 4 long enough to detect any pattern. RE: Other problems with PDF Maker: It doesn't work at all if you have a protected form document that you want to use to create a PDF. You have to first unprotect the form. That's pretty dangerous (i.e. you can lose data if you're not careful), but if you know about the hurdle, you can at least plan for it. Anyone else encounter these problems? ----------------------------------- HARDY POTTINGER Information Coordinator Orthopaedic Research Society 6300 N River Rd Ste 727 Rosemont, IL 60018-4226 (847)384-4219 / FAX (847)823-0536 pottinger@aaos.org http://www.ors.org ----------------------------------- _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 26-Jul-1999 18:40:30-GMT,1996;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA08514 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 12:40:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA18843; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 13:36:39 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 26 Jul 1999 13:33:52 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA18612; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 13:33:50 -0500 Message-ID: <01BED773.C1CFE230.David_Tamburello@mazer.com> From: David Tamburello To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] HP OfficeJet 600 and dropped PS objects Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 14:32:57 -0400 Organization: Mazer e-PS X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Anybody out there had trouble with HP OfficeJet 600 printers dropping PS objects? Our theory is that this multi-function device does not have enough memory to support our documents. Anybody had similar problems? Anyone upgraded memory for this model? David M. Tamburello, ACE Mazer e-Publishing 2436 Gaynor Avenue NW Grand Rapids, MI 49544-1830 vce 616 784 7400 fax 616 784 8925 Ask me about Acrobat 4 training/consulting/tech support! _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 26-Jul-1999 19:03:56-GMT,2344;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA09152 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 13:03:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA21077; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 13:57:40 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 26 Jul 1999 13:56:17 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA20899; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 13:56:07 -0500 Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 11:58:37 -0700 Message-Id: <199907261858.LAA00705@aladdin.com> From: "L. Peter Deutsch" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com In-reply-to: <01BED773.C1CFE230.David_Tamburello@mazer.com> (message from David Tamburello on Mon, 26 Jul 1999 14:32:57 -0400) Subject: Re: [PDF] HP OfficeJet 600 and dropped PS objects References: <01BED773.C1CFE230.David_Tamburello@mazer.com> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > Anybody out there had trouble with HP OfficeJet 600 printers dropping PS > objects? Our theory is that this multi-function device does not have > enough memory to support our documents. Anybody had similar problems? > Anyone upgraded memory for this model? You don't have to upgrade the printer's memory. If it's compatible with one of the H-P LaserJet series, you can use Ghostscript on your desktop to do the PS rasterizing. See the URL below, or e-mail me privately for details. -- L. Peter Deutsch | Aladdin Enterprises :::: ghost@aladdin.com 203 Santa Margarita Ave. | tel. +1-650-322-0103 (AM only); fax +1-650-322-1734 Menlo Park, CA 94025 | http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~ghost/index.html _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 26-Jul-1999 19:27:52-GMT,2594;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA09910 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 13:27:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA24202; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 14:25:05 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 26 Jul 1999 14:23:34 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA23987; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 14:23:33 -0500 Message-ID: <01BED77A.B26136D0.David_Tamburello@mazer.com> From: David Tamburello To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] HP OfficeJet 600 and dropped PS objects Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 15:22:37 -0400 Organization: Mazer e-PS X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I mistyped PS objects when I meant page elements. We have the docs in PDF already and view properly, but the hard copy printouts of the PDFs are missing objects, like the header we placed in there in Quark. Dave -----Original Message----- From: L. Peter Deutsch [SMTP:ghost@aladdin.com] Sent: Monday, July 26, 1999 2:59 PM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] HP OfficeJet 600 and dropped PS objects The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > Anybody out there had trouble with HP OfficeJet 600 printers dropping PS > objects? Our theory is that this multi-function device does not have > enough memory to support our documents. Anybody had similar problems? > Anyone upgraded memory for this model? You don't have to upgrade the printer's memory. If it's compatible with one of the H-P LaserJet series, you can use Ghostscript on your desktop to do the PS rasterizing. See the URL below, or e-mail me privately for details. _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 26-Jul-1999 19:31:15-GMT,2085;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA09971 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 13:31:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA24502; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 14:27:46 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 26 Jul 1999 14:26:40 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA24335; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 14:26:39 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] HP OfficeJet 600 and dropped PS objects Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 20:27:00 +0100 Message-ID: <001101bed79c$d53bf920$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <01BED773.C1CFE230.David_Tamburello@mazer.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > Anybody out there had trouble with HP OfficeJet 600 printers > dropping PS > objects? Our theory is that this multi-function device does > not have enough > memory to support our documents. Anybody had similar problems? Anyone > upgraded memory for this model? Surely this isn't a PS printer? Aandi _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 26-Jul-1999 19:33:33-GMT,2380;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA10055 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 13:33:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA24771; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 14:30:51 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 26 Jul 1999 14:29:38 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA24663; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 14:29:37 -0500 Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 12:32:13 -0700 Message-Id: <199907261932.MAA00812@aladdin.com> From: "L. Peter Deutsch" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com CC: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com In-reply-to: <01BED77A.B26136D0.David_Tamburello@mazer.com> (message from David Tamburello on Mon, 26 Jul 1999 15:22:37 -0400) Subject: Re: [PDF] HP OfficeJet 600 and dropped PS objects References: <01BED77A.B26136D0.David_Tamburello@mazer.com> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > I mistyped PS objects when I meant page elements. We have the docs in PDF > already and view properly, but the hard copy printouts of the PDFs are > missing objects, like the header we placed in there in Quark. Ghostscript can rasterize PDF files on the desktop, too. Since the documents preview correctly on the screen, the files themselves are almost certainly OK, and Ghostscript can almost certainly help you work around printer memory limitations and/or bugs in Acrobat's Print function. -- L. Peter Deutsch | Aladdin Enterprises :::: ghost@aladdin.com 203 Santa Margarita Ave. | tel. +1-650-322-0103 (AM only); fax +1-650-322-1734 Menlo Park, CA 94025 | http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~ghost/index.html _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 26-Jul-1999 19:21:35-GMT,2484;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA09726 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 13:21:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA22989; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 14:15:57 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 26 Jul 1999 14:14:25 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA22830; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 14:14:24 -0500 Message-Id: <199907261914.OAA27677@mailgw02.execpc.com> Subject: [PDF] Attachments Mac-to-PC II Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 14:16:56 -0500 x-sender: wordwise@mail.execpc.com x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, January 22, 1998 From: Pwordwise To: "PDF Lists" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Thanks to all that replied to my description of problems attaching files to e-mail. The grim reality actually lessened my frustration somewhat, and the info was helpful. Two other sources of information have popped up and I thought I'd share them. 1. The July 22 NY Times, page D11, has a large article on ^#%()*&%# Attachments (their language). 2. "Windows for Mac Users," by Cynthia L. Baron & Robin Williams, treats the subject at considerable length. It's way early in my trials with this new info, but I'm going to try using Outlook Express, set to use Base64 and no compression, send PDFs and web formats like GIFs (which are already efficient in size), make sure the files are prepared right, with proper extensions, and see how that works. If larger files later require compression, I'll try to ensure that my friends have WinZip or Aladdin Expander. Thanks again. chuck miller _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 26-Jul-1999 21:45:08-GMT,3272;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA13936 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 15:45:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA05215; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 16:37:39 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 26 Jul 1999 16:31:15 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA04431; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 16:31:11 -0500 Message-ID: <01BED78C.855D4C70.David_Tamburello@mazer.com> From: David Tamburello To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] HP OfficeJet 600 and dropped PS objects Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 17:30:12 -0400 Organization: Mazer e-PS X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ The missing page objects were rotated. Once we straightened them out, they re-appeared. We'll continue to look for the underlying cause. The difference in file size is only 25K, so we don't think it was a memory problem, although we're still not sure, as the HP OfficeJet 600 has only 500K of printer memory. (Of course, the ultimate problem lies in the pricing of PostScript licensing and customers who buy printers from HP). Thanks to everyone who provided help. I'll update the list if we come up with a serious incompatibility issue that seems to apply beyond this customer's specific configuration. Dave -----Original Message----- From: L. Peter Deutsch [SMTP:ghost@aladdin.com] Sent: Monday, July 26, 1999 3:32 PM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Cc: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] HP OfficeJet 600 and dropped PS objects The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > I mistyped PS objects when I meant page elements. We have the docs in PDF > already and view properly, but the hard copy printouts of the PDFs are > missing objects, like the header we placed in there in Quark. Ghostscript can rasterize PDF files on the desktop, too. Since the documents preview correctly on the screen, the files themselves are almost certainly OK, and Ghostscript can almost certainly help you work around printer memory limitations and/or bugs in Acrobat's Print function. -- L. Peter Deutsch | Aladdin Enterprises :::: ghost@aladdin.com 203 Santa Margarita Ave. | tel. +1-650-322-0103 (AM only); fax +1-650-322-1734 Menlo Park, CA 94025 | http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~ghost/index.html _ _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 26-Jul-1999 21:51:10-GMT,2541;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA14138 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 15:51:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA06471; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 16:48:32 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 26 Jul 1999 16:44:34 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA05986; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 16:44:33 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990726174833.00882a10@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 17:48:33 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] Attachments Mac-to-PC II In-Reply-To: <199907261914.OAA27677@mailgw02.execpc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >If larger files later require compression, I'll try to ensure that my >friends have WinZip or Aladdin Expander. > And ensure that they've set Expander up properly. By default, as I recall, it wants to "translate" PC files to Mac format. This can involve turning all CR/LF pairs into single CRs. With EPS, that changes the length of the file, the offsets to the preview image are blown, and there goes the preview. If not the entire EPS ... sometimes "translation" renders it totally unprintable. I expect it'd do the same to PDF, what with its dependence on file offsets. There are options to turn this foolishness off, but I forget exactly where they live. WinZIP shouldn't be any problem. Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 27-Jul-1999 0:15:35-GMT,2331;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA18521 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 18:15:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA19249; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 19:06:16 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 26 Jul 1999 19:04:35 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA19070; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 19:04:32 -0500 Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.19990726170149.00a28750@axe.humboldt.edu> X-Sender: cea7002@axe.humboldt.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 17:07:28 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Ed Albert Subject: [PDF] Need to change font in a PDF In-Reply-To: <199907252103.QAA10838@everglades.binc.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Is there any way to change, revise, or remove a font from a PDF file? Have two fairly large PDF files that are embedded with MS Linedraw and would like to change the font to something that comes up darker and clearer, either by increasing the size or literally changing the font. These PDF files were generated using PDF writer, and are large tabular reports... both exceed 10k pages, so I am not overly excited about recreating them, and redoing all the bookmarks in them. Surely there is a plugin or something ... :-) Ed Albert Programmer/Analyst Fiscal Affairs Humboldt State University Arcata, California Telephone: (707) 826-3522 Fax Line is: (707) 826-3334 _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 27-Jul-1999 0:42:24-GMT,2764;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA19231 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 18:42:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA22545; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 19:39:36 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 26 Jul 1999 19:36:58 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA22175; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 19:36:57 -0500 Message-Id: <199907270036.RAA91886@mail.inficad.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 17:36:54 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Need to change font in a PDF From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com CC: cea7002@axe.humboldt.edu Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > Is there any way to change, revise, or remove a font from a PDF file? Have > two fairly large PDF files that are embedded with MS Linedraw and would > like to change the font to something that comes up darker and clearer, > either by increasing the size or literally changing the font. These PDF > files were generated using PDF writer, and are large tabular reports... > both exceed 10k pages, so I am not overly excited about recreating them, > and redoing all the bookmarks in them. > > Surely there is a plugin or something ... :-) > > > Ed Albert Sure, Ed: PitStop from http://www.enfocus.com can do just what you want. 299 bucks. If you would like other solutions, feel free to e-mail me directly. Rich ---------------------------------------------------------------- Rich Sprague PDF Solutions/Consulting (480) 860-0050 Print Management & Production richsprague@inficad.com 4-Color Digital Printing http://www.inficad.com/~richsprague Sheetfed & Web Printing *38* years experience ---------------------------------------------------------------- _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 27-Jul-1999 4:04:42-GMT,4390;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA24134 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 22:04:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA07338; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 23:01:40 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Mon, 26 Jul 1999 22:58:11 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA06953; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 22:58:07 -0500 Message-ID: <379D2DAB.5048239B@dconstructs.com> Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 23:55:23 -0400 From: "Robert E. Moran" Organization: Digital Constructs Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Enable background in PDF document References: <001001bed732$da783440$214315a5@pc33> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------BCA863A60A8D9E52A054D586" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------BCA863A60A8D9E52A054D586 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------24D96A64C6E5E7C2FE70673F" --------------24D96A64C6E5E7C2FE70673F Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit There are plugin that can do this. Check out PDF Zone for this. R. Moran "Dr. Cheng" wrote: > Is there any way to add background to a PDF file? I have a word > document and I convert the document into PDF using PDF writer. But > when I add background to the word document, after converted to PDF, > the background doesn't show. Please Help Thanks,Sandy -- Robert E. Moran Digital Constructs Inc. 759 North Park Avenue Redding, CT 06896 Tel 203-452-1116 203-452-8085 Fax: 203-452-0416 E-Mail remoran@dconstructs.com http://www.dconstructs.com "Confusion is a misapprehension of a higher order" - Henry Miller --------------24D96A64C6E5E7C2FE70673F Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit There are plugin that can do this. Check out PDF Zone for this.

R. Moran

"Dr. Cheng" wrote:

Is there any way to add background to a PDF file? I have a word document and I convert the document into PDF using PDF writer. But when I add background to the word document, after converted to PDF, the background doesn't show. Please Help Thanks,Sandy

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Moran end:vcard --------------BCA863A60A8D9E52A054D586-- _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 27-Jul-1999 8:29:47-GMT,3511;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA00519 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 02:29:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA25343; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 03:26:40 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 27 Jul 1999 03:22:22 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA25139; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 03:22:21 -0500 From: Laura.Dietz@arcor.net X-Lotus-FromDomain: ARCOR To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <412567BB.00333C16.00@slz-01-hub01.cni.net> Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 10:21:52 +0100 Subject: Antwort: [PDF] PDFWriter for Word Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi Al, there are several free/shareware tools which allow you to convert doc to pdf, but not much more. One which is available for all platforms is the Ghostwriter/view/script- package (sorry, got no url yet) Regards, Laura Dietz =================================================================== Mannesmann Arcor AG & Co., Koelnerstr. 5, 65760 Eschborn , Germany =================================================================== Laura Dietz, FIO E-Mail: Laura.Dietz@arcor.net Phone: +49 69 2169 - 5659, Fax: - 3939 =================================================================== For more information: http://www.arcor.net =================================================================== Al Stewart 12.07.99 16:46 Bitte antworten an pdf@lists.pdfzone.com An: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Kopie: (Blindkopie: Laura Dietz/FIO_EXT/Eschborn/Arcor) Thema: [PDF] PDFWriter for Word The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ My needs for PDF at present are pretty limited -- basically an occasional document generated from Word. So all I need is something like PDFWriter. But ... is this utility, or something similar available in some way other than having to buy one of the major Adobe packages like Acrobat? Al Stewart --------------------------------------------------------- Al Stewart -- stewarta@kootenay.com -- stewarta@impact.ca "Stewart Information Services" -- Helping YOU Communicate ---- Scanning/OCR -- Manuscript Typing Text Conversion -- Proofreading http://www.impact.ca/multi1a.htm ----------------------------------------------------------- _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 27-Jul-1999 8:29:48-GMT,3483;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA00522 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 02:29:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA25344; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 03:26:40 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 27 Jul 1999 03:23:51 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA25206; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 03:23:50 -0500 From: Laura.Dietz@arcor.net X-Lotus-FromDomain: ARCOR To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <412567BB.003378FD.00@slz-01-hub01.cni.net> Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 10:23:22 +0100 Subject: Antwort: [PDF] PDFWriter for Word Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi Al, there are several free/shareware tools which allow you to convert docs to pdf but nothing more. One of those is the ghostwriter/view/script package (sorry, got no url yet) Regards, Laura Dietz =================================================================== Mannesmann Arcor AG & Co., Koelnerstr. 5, 65760 Eschborn , Germany =================================================================== Laura Dietz, FIO E-Mail: Laura.Dietz@arcor.net Phone: +49 69 2169 - 5659, Fax: - 3939 =================================================================== For more information: http://www.arcor.net =================================================================== Al Stewart 12.07.99 16:46 Bitte antworten an pdf@lists.pdfzone.com An: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Kopie: (Blindkopie: Laura Dietz/FIO_EXT/Eschborn/Arcor) Thema: [PDF] PDFWriter for Word The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ My needs for PDF at present are pretty limited -- basically an occasional document generated from Word. So all I need is something like PDFWriter. But ... is this utility, or something similar available in some way other than having to buy one of the major Adobe packages like Acrobat? Al Stewart --------------------------------------------------------- Al Stewart -- stewarta@kootenay.com -- stewarta@impact.ca "Stewart Information Services" -- Helping YOU Communicate ---- Scanning/OCR -- Manuscript Typing Text Conversion -- Proofreading http://www.impact.ca/multi1a.htm ----------------------------------------------------------- _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 27-Jul-1999 10:33:34-GMT,2525;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA03282 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 04:33:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA00738; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 05:30:03 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 27 Jul 1999 05:25:35 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA00378; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 05:25:34 -0500 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] HP OfficeJet 600 and dropped PS objects In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 26 Jul 1999 17:30:12 EDT." <01BED78C.855D4C70.David_Tamburello@mazer.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 11:25:28 +0100 Message-ID: <27724.933071128@MessagingDirect.com> From: Chris Ridd Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ On Mon, 26 Jul 1999 17:30:12 EDT, David Tamburello wrote: > The missing page objects were rotated. Once we straightened them out, they > re-appeared. We'll continue to look for the underlying cause. The > difference in file size is only 25K, so we don't think it was a memory > problem, although we're still not sure, as the HP OfficeJet 600 has only > 500K of printer memory. (Of course, the ultimate problem lies in the The difference in file size is not really relevant. The PostScript interpreter will require some amount of memory in order to rotate and render the offending objects. This could be a significant amount, depending on the resolution, what it is rotating, and how big it is, etc etc. Either use GhostScript to rasterize the page on your computer and then get it to print the bitmap to your printer, or get more memory for your printer. Chris _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 27-Jul-1999 13:00:04-GMT,3256;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA06558 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 07:00:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA11738; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 07:55:19 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 27 Jul 1999 07:50:54 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA11147; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 07:50:53 -0500 Message-Id: <4.2.0.56.19990727063038.0098c190@law1.law.virginia.edu> X-Sender: dleslie@law1.law.virginia.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.56 (Beta) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 06:48:50 -0600 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Doug Leslie Subject: [PDF] Thin gray text Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I have encountered the following error using Win98 and Acrobat 4. I produce PDF files from Word97. I use PDFMaker 4.0. I have only three fonts--Arial, Arial Bold, and Times New Roman. I embed these fonts and generate PDF files of about 18 pages each using Distiller. I have two computers at the moment. Both are Pentium IIs running Win98. On one of these computers (call it computer1) the PDF files display as they are supposed to. On the other computer (call it computer2), which is a rental unit, Arial and Times New Roman display as thin gray lines. Arial Bold displays as text. In a Table of Contents file, in which there are hyperlinks, Times New Roman displays as thin gray lines with a thin blue underline. There are almost no programs on computer2, so it is not some program conflict. Adobe Reader 4.0 was installed on both from the same CD. The PDF files are set to "Fit in Window." If I switch to another view, such as "Fit to Width," text is displayed on computer2. On computer1, the document information shows that all three fonts were embedded subsets. On computer2, the same PDF file has a blank listing for Arial and Times New Roman, and says that Arial Bold (which is displaying regularly) is an embedded subset. PDF Writer produces the same gray lines on computer2. I could go back and change the magnification setting on Distiller to generate a different view, but this is a poor solution for my situation. I found a thin, gray line message from several years ago in the archives, but no suggestions. Can anyone here help? Doug Leslie Gregory Professor of Law University of Virginia http://www.CaseFileMethod.com _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 27-Jul-1999 13:32:32-GMT,2430;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA07280 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 07:32:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA14402; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 08:26:54 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 27 Jul 1999 08:22:54 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA14068; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 08:22:52 -0500 From: "Darryl Lucas (Solvera, Handforth, UK)" To: Subject: [PDF] Auto-placing linked form fields ? Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 14:17:13 +0100 Message-ID: <000a01bed832$5d53f3e0$ab7175c1@win95> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi all, I am looking for a time-saving short-cut while placing forms into PDFs... Here is an outline; I have a very large collection of multi-page PDFs that all have different-sized pages; some were cropped as TIFFs, some as PDFs. These all need to link back to the 'home' page PDF (I am building a CD). I have a form navigation button that when pressed jumps to the main index; this a very small PDF that reads 'home'. Is it possible to auto place this button, with its link onto to all the pages of all the PDFs in the collection at (say) bottom right? If not, what quick methods are available? (I originally posted this question to the "basics" PDF list; but got no replies!) Darryl Lucas _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 27-Jul-1999 14:08:22-GMT,3120;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA08136 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 08:08:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA18390; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 09:04:22 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 27 Jul 1999 08:59:15 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA17725; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 08:59:13 -0500 From: steve_russell@us.ibm.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: IBMUS To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <852567BB.004CCE96.00@d54mta03.raleigh.ibm.com> Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 09:58:24 -0400 Subject: [PDF] Byteserving.... delay in opening first page Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I've recently discovered this site and mailing list and hope someone can shed some light.... I tried searching the archives, but the date filter doesn't seem to work - as soon as I specify any dates, I get zero hits even though I got hits from the same date when no filter was applied. Without the filter I get hits from four or five years ago and I don't want to have to wade through all of that. My department generates a lot of books that are both printed and made available on the web in PDF format. Using an old process (book source created using a mainframe-based text processor) that creates PostScript that is then turned into PDF, we get PDFs that display their first page almost instantly. More recently, we've moved to FrameMaker. Books created this way take a significant time to display their first page. As an example, a 4 MB optimized PDF opened in NetScape quickly displays "0% of 4331KB" in the status line, following instantly by "0% of 1012KB". This 1MB is then fully downloaded before the first page is displayed. On bad days, this can be a minute or more. My guess is that FrameMaker is putting a whole bunch of bookmarks or other gorp up at the start of the book and, for some reason, this gets downloaded before the page info. It's a real nuisance because it defeats the whole point of having a byteserving web server. Our site is set up OK... optimized PDFs, byteserving enabled, etc. Interestingly, the PDF specifications on this site show the same behaviour. V1.2 works as expected, V1.3 shows the delay. Any ideas? Thanks, Steve Russell _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 27-Jul-1999 14:21:18-GMT,2026;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA08488 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 08:21:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA19952; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 09:18:48 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 27 Jul 1999 09:14:56 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA19535; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 09:14:55 -0500 Message-ID: <337AB4CBC637D3118ABB006008C5F7B601E145@pvexchange.petrovend.com> From: Tom Robinson To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] OFF TOPIC: Font Talk Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 09:13:53 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Recent PDF list threads contain talk o' fonts a'plenty: Type 3, Type 1, TrueType, etc, etc. Alas, I admit to some denseness regarding font terminology. Could someone either point me at a concise "What You Always Wanted To Know About Fonts (But Were Embarrassed to Ask)" link or give me a brief description of what these font types are? Not looking for a doctoral thesis here, just overview stuff on the types (maybe how they fit into PDF conversions, too?). Thanks much, Tom Robinson Chicago, IL _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 27-Jul-1999 14:47:16-GMT,3389;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA09285 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 08:47:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA22653; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 09:44:13 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 27 Jul 1999 09:41:17 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA22371; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 09:41:16 -0500 Message-Id: <199907271441.HAA27219@mail.inficad.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 07:41:13 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] OFF TOPIC: Font Talk From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > Recent PDF list threads contain talk o' fonts a'plenty: Type 3, Type 1, > TrueType, etc, etc. Alas, I admit to some denseness regarding font > terminology. Could someone either point me at a concise "What You Always > Wanted To Know About Fonts (But Were Embarrassed to Ask)" link or give > me a brief description of what these font types are? Not looking for a > doctoral thesis here, just overview stuff on the types (maybe how they > fit into PDF conversions, too?). > Tom Robinson Tom: Adobe developed both the Type 1 and Type 3 font formats, but Type 3 was never promoted by Adobe and is old stuff. They should *never* be used in PDF files. Here's a link to a doc that Adobe has put out describing the two font types: http://www.adobe.com/supportservice/custsupport/SOLUTIONS/c622.htm Type 1 fonts are true PostScript fonts, thus are directly tied to Adobe's PostScript language. Apple developed TrueType fonts desiring to compete with Adobe. Interestingly enough, TrueType has never taken off on the Mac (most Mac users are graphics professionals and chose to stick with PostScript fonts). On the other hand, TrueType has taken a firm hold on the PC thanks to Microsoft. Note: it takes a screen font file and printer font file to work with PostScript fonts, while with TT all font information is contained in one file. There is now a fourth font type to enter the fracus: OpenType, being developed jointly by Adobe and Microsoft. Here are two docs talking about OpenType. It again will be one file, per font, and is sort of blend between Type 1 and TT. http://www.adobe.com/type/opentype/qna.html http://partners.adobe.com/asn/developer/opentype/otover.htm This information should be enough to help you understand everything you always wanted to know about fonts. r|i|c|h _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 27-Jul-1999 14:53:18-GMT,2450;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA09434 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 08:53:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA23272; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 09:50:52 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 27 Jul 1999 09:48:19 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA23075; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 09:48:12 -0500 Message-ID: <42C2689CF21ED311BE3600A0C9B3BB8E0FE844@mail-nt-3.dcs-stl.com> From: "Manson, Al" To: "'PDF Zone'" Subject: [PDF] Line Width Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 09:50:01 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I have a good one. In Quark 4.04, I have several images placed in rotated rectangles with a white keyline of about 1.5 points around them. The images overlap each other and are rotated different amounts. The postscript is distilled at 1200 dpi in Distiller 3.0 (for print production). Some of the keylines are changing width by a considerable amount (about an extra point). It is visible in Exchange. The curious part is that if we rotate the page when we print it, other keylines will fatten up and the ones that were fat straight-up are ok. The only way we have found to cure the problem is to make a polygon for a window and remove the rotated box. Does anyone have a reason or a better solution? Thanks in advance. Al Manson Tech Support DCS Inc. 2500 Metro Blvd. St. Louis, MO 63043 (314) 692-4447 (314) 432-8800 (800) 537-5749 (3140 692-0309 (Fax) amanson@dcspremedia.com _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 27-Jul-1999 15:13:58-GMT,4839;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA10038 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 09:13:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA25826; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 10:11:38 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 27 Jul 1999 10:08:40 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA25423; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 10:08:38 -0500 Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 08:11:46 -0700 Message-Id: <199907271511.IAA00916@aladdin.com> From: "L. Peter Deutsch" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com In-reply-to: <199907271441.HAA27219@mail.inficad.com> (richsprague@inficad.com) Subject: Re: [PDF] OFF TOPIC: Font Talk References: <199907271441.HAA27219@mail.inficad.com> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Rich's posting was very informative and (IMO) not off-topic, but it contained some minor errors. > Adobe developed both the Type 1 and Type 3 font formats, but Type 3 was > never promoted by Adobe and is old stuff. They should *never* be used in > PDF files. Not quite. Type 1 format is a compact, binary format that can be rasterized by software that doesn't include a full PostScript or PDF interpreter. Type 3 format is a symbolic format that comes in two flavors (PostScript and PDF) and can be used to do many things that Type 1 cannot, such as (in the PostScript form) multi-colored fonts or fonts that adapt themselves more intelligently when scaled, or (in both forms) fonts that include pattern fills or bitmap images. Type 3 fonts are a powerful tool if used carefully; they are fully supported by Adobe. However, rasterizing a Type 3 font requires a PostScript language or PDF interpreter. It is correct that PostScript Type 3 fonts cannot be used in PDF files, and that PDF Type 3 fonts should only be used in very special situations. > Type 1 fonts are true PostScript fonts, thus are directly tied to Adobe's > PostScript language. Well, not exactly. Although they are specified using PostScript syntax, in all widely used Type 1 fonts the syntax is carefully constrained so that such fonts can be read by ATM (Adobe Type Manager) and by PDF interpreters as well as by PostScript interpreters. The X Windows server, for example, can rasterize Type 1 fonts, and it has no PostScript language capability. (Per spec, Type 1 fonts *can* include fragments of PostScript code, but such fonts are almost never seen in practice.) > Note: it takes a screen font file and printer font file to work with > PostScript fonts, while with TT all font information is contained in one > file. I think this is true only for kerning information. All other information (character outlines, advance widths, etc.) is contained in the Type 1 or Type 3 font itself. It is true that the advance width and bounding box information is encoded in a way that is inconvenient for software other than the rasterizer to extract, so many environments require additional AFM (Adobe Font Metrics) or PFM (Printer Font Metrics) files that contain a copy of this information in an easier-to-access form. > There is now a fourth font type to enter the fracus: OpenType, being > developed jointly by Adobe and Microsoft. Here are two docs talking about > OpenType. It again will be one file, per font, and is sort of blend > between Type 1 and TT. OpenType is a "wrapper" that can contain *either* an Adobe Type 2 font (a kind of compressed Type 1, only fully supported in PostScript LanguageLevel 3) *or* a TrueType font. It does provide a way to package an Adobe font and kerning information in a single file, with the metrics represented in an easy-to-use binary format. It also includes optional digital signature information that (IMO) is an entering wedge for Microsoft Windows to enforce pay-per-use licensing for fonts. But that's another discussion. -- L. Peter Deutsch | Aladdin Enterprises :::: ghost@aladdin.com 203 Santa Margarita Ave. | tel. +1-650-322-0103 (AM only); fax +1-650-322-1734 Menlo Park, CA 94025 | http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~ghost/index.html _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 27-Jul-1999 15:22:54-GMT,2698;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA10338 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 09:22:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA26553; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 10:19:38 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 27 Jul 1999 10:16:31 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA26258; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 10:16:30 -0500 Message-ID: <6p0W1VASfbn3EwIA@merlin-os.co.uk> Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 14:44:50 +0100 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: David R Evans Subject: Re: [PDF] Auto-placing linked form fields ? In-Reply-To: <000a01bed832$5d53f3e0$ab7175c1@win95> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Version 3.03a Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ In message <000a01bed832$5d53f3e0$ab7175c1@win95>, "Darryl Lucas (Solvera, Handforth, UK)" wrote: >I have a form navigation button that when pressed jumps to the main index; >this a very small PDF that reads 'home'. > >Is it possible to auto place this button, with its link onto to all the >pages of all the PDFs in the collection at (say) bottom right? If not, what >quick methods are available? Our Options plug-in can do this in batch using its Copy Hyperfeatures functionality under the Advanced settings. Alignment is from bottom left corner, so might work for you. Download a demo from our web site. Regards David Evans --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dr David R Evans Telephone: (+44) 115 9860048 / 9514230 Merlin Open Systems Facsimile: (+44) 115 9860048 P O Box 230 E-mail: dre@merlin-os.co.uk NOTTINGHAM WWW: http://www.merlin-os.co.uk/ NG2 1LJ, UK Acrobat resellers, specialists in Adobe Acrobat plug-ins and electronic publishing software, publishers of Acrobatics _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 27-Jul-1999 19:34:21-GMT,1800;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA17572 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 13:34:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA19708; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 14:29:31 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 27 Jul 1999 14:27:27 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA19471; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 14:27:23 -0500 Message-ID: <379E07C5.D215CDED@adobe.com> Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 12:25:57 -0700 From: Roberto Perelman Organization: Adobe Systems Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Auto-placing linked form fields ? References: <6p0W1VASfbn3EwIA@merlin-os.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ You can also use (OLE) Automation (on Acrobat 4.0, Windows) to do this job. See http://partners.adobe.com/asn/developer/acrosdk/DOCS/formapi.pdf _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 27-Jul-1999 19:38:57-GMT,2421;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA17695 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 13:38:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA20512; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 14:36:35 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 27 Jul 1999 14:35:26 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA20396; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 14:35:24 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990727153921.008cad90@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 15:39:21 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] OFF TOPIC: Font Talk In-Reply-To: <199907271511.IAA00916@aladdin.com> References: <199907271441.HAA27219@mail.inficad.com> <199907271441.HAA27219@mail.inficad.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >> Note: it takes a screen font file and printer font file to work with >> PostScript fonts, while with TT all font information is contained in one >> file. > >I think this is true only for kerning information. And in any case isn't true of Windows or OS2, for which you need a PFB (printer font file) and a metrics file (PFM for Windows, AFM for OS2, though don't quote me on that as it's been a long time since I messed with it). No screen font files needed there, though they are on the Mac. Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 27-Jul-1999 19:48:00-GMT,2378;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA17983 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 13:47:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA21627; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 14:44:53 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 27 Jul 1999 14:43:46 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA21486; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 14:43:45 -0500 Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 12:46:40 -0700 Message-Id: <199907271946.MAA01388@aladdin.com> From: "L. Peter Deutsch" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com CC: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com In-reply-to: <3.0.5.32.19990727153921.008cad90@pop.iglou.com> (message from Steve Rindsberg on Tue, 27 Jul 1999 15:39:21 -0400) Subject: Re: [PDF] OFF TOPIC: Font Talk References: <199907271441.HAA27219@mail.inficad.com> <199907271441.HAA27219@mail.inficad.com> <3.0.5.32.19990727153921.008cad90@pop.iglou.com> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > And in any case isn't true of Windows or OS2, for which you need a PFB > (printer font file) and a metrics file (PFM for Windows, AFM for OS2, > though don't quote me on that as it's been a long time since I messed with > it). No screen font files needed there, though they are on the Mac. FYI, PFB is just a slightly different representation of a Type 1 font, in a binary format, as opposed to PFA which is an ASCII format. -- L. Peter Deutsch | Aladdin Enterprises :::: ghost@aladdin.com 203 Santa Margarita Ave. | tel. +1-650-322-0103 (AM only); fax +1-650-322-1734 Menlo Park, CA 94025 | http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~ghost/index.html _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 27-Jul-1999 19:58:32-GMT,2231;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA18415 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 13:58:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA22674; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 14:54:13 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 27 Jul 1999 14:53:03 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA22541; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 14:53:01 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990727155653.008bae00@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 15:56:53 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] OFF TOPIC: Font Talk In-Reply-To: <199907271946.MAA01388@aladdin.com> References: <3.0.5.32.19990727153921.008cad90@pop.iglou.com> <199907271441.HAA27219@mail.inficad.com> <199907271441.HAA27219@mail.inficad.com> <3.0.5.32.19990727153921.008cad90@pop.iglou.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >FYI, PFB is just a slightly different representation of a Type 1 font, in a >binary format, as opposed to PFA which is an ASCII format. > Yes. I wasn't disputing anything you'd said re PFBs. Nor this. Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 27-Jul-1999 21:44:42-GMT,2628;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA22105 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 15:44:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA02508; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 16:39:42 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 27 Jul 1999 16:36:11 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA01932; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 16:36:09 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19990727213349.00794360@pop.online.de> X-Sender: 1025-56@pop.online.de X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 21:33:49 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Reinhard Jaehnig Subject: [PDF] Distributing Acrobat Reader Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id QAA01928 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Language ======== General preferences include the choice of language. How can the drop down list be populated ? Mine only has one item, namely English. Attributions ============ The Guidelines for Distributing Acrobat Reader 3 pretty much stated: As long as you don't change the installer program, you're in compliance with the license agreement. The Guidelines for Distributing Acrobat Reader 4 state one has to add the following attribution state- ment on any media and packaging that includes Reader: Acrobat ® Reader Copyright © 1987-1999 Adobe Systems Incorporated. All rights reserved. Adobe, the Adobe logo, Acrobat, and the Acrobat logo are trademarks of Adobe Systems Incorporated. That's quite a bit of text to include on a little label. Assuming there is no packaging to the CD, I assume including the attribution in the readme file should be alright. How do others handle this ? Reinhard _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 27-Jul-1999 22:41:46-GMT,2992;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA23855 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 16:41:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA09195; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 17:37:38 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 27 Jul 1999 17:36:03 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA08985; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 17:36:01 -0500 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19990727223555.009789a4@env-sol.com> X-Sender: thiersch@env-sol.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 15:35:55 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Tom Thiersch Subject: Re: [PDF] Distributing Acrobat Reader Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id RAA08981 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Yes, that's how I handle it. I use the README file as the starting point for all License, Copyright, Trademark, Setup instructions, Tech Support number/URL, etc. information. Printed on the face of the disc is just "Refer to the README.TXT file to install and run this CD-ROM". I also print the URL for tech support on the face of the disc (in case they have problems reading the CD). I also always include a link to the README from whatever Autorun program I set up, for those users who choose to go that way. This approach has allowed me to eliminate all printed documentation; one less thing to lose -- everything the user needs is on the CD-ROM. Tom Thiersch At 09:33 PM 7/27/99 +0200, you wrote: > >The Guidelines for Distributing Acrobat Reader 4 >state one has to add the following attribution state- >ment on any media and packaging that includes Reader: > > Acrobat ® Reader Copyright © 1987-1999 Adobe Systems > Incorporated. All rights reserved. Adobe, the Adobe > logo, Acrobat, and the Acrobat logo are trademarks > of Adobe Systems Incorporated. > >That's quite a bit of text to include on a little label. >Assuming there is no packaging to the CD, I assume >including the attribution in the readme file should be >alright. How do others handle this ? > >Reinhard > _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 28-Jul-1999 1:42:59-GMT,1899;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA28493 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 19:42:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA25974; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 20:39:55 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 27 Jul 1999 20:37:23 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA25754; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 20:37:09 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: jhbauer@pop3.akula.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <2.2.32.19990727223555.009789a4@env-sol.com> References: <2.2.32.19990727223555.009789a4@env-sol.com> Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 20:56:56 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Jonathan Bauer Subject: [PDF] Plugin to make object non-printing (Mac) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Does anyone know of a plugin available that can make a graphic object in a PDF non-printing (or, gasp, did I miss this and Acrobat can do it without any help)? I'm using Macs, so a windows solution will do me no good. TIA, Jonathan _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 28-Jul-1999 2:24:48-GMT,3076;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA29439 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 20:24:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA30250; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 21:21:54 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 27 Jul 1999 21:20:31 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA29934; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 21:20:30 -0500 Message-Id: <199907280220.TAA86275@mail.inficad.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 19:20:25 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Line Width From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com CC: amanson@dcspremedia.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > I have a good one. In Quark 4.04, I have several images placed in rotated > rectangles with a white keyline of about 1.5 points around them. The images > overlap each other and are rotated different amounts. The postscript is > distilled at 1200 dpi in Distiller 3.0 (for print production). I just recreated this fellow's problem. Well, I did and I didn't. I made three rectangles, filled them with an image, put a 1.5 pt white border on the containers, and rotated one clockwise, and one counterclockwise. The keylines are perfect. I use Acrobat 4. > Some of the keylines are changing width by a considerable amount (about an > extra point). It is visible in Exchange. The curious part is that if we > rotate the page when we print it, other keylines will fatten up and the ones > that were fat straight-up are ok. > > The only way we have found to cure the problem is to make a polygon for a > window and remove the rotated box. Does anyone have a reason or a better > solution? Thanks in advance. I note that you say you're using Distiller 3.0 (emphasis on the zero). If this is the case, then you should upgrade to 3.02 (available free from http://www.adobe.com). Better yet, pop for 99 bucks from http://www.pdfzone.com and upgrade. I know that it works on the recreated problem. If you want, you may e-mail me the offending file and I will pre-flight it and tell you if I see anything else which could be causing the problem. r|i|c|h _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 28-Jul-1999 3:43:39-GMT,2754;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA01390 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 21:43:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA03980; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 22:39:54 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 27 Jul 1999 22:38:19 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA03879; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 22:38:18 -0500 Message-Id: <4.1.19990727231802.00a68c60@dionis.com> X-Sender: m2456601@mail.9netave.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 23:31:37 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Daniel-Ari Feinberg Subject: [PDF] Auto-placing linked form fields ? In-Reply-To: <199906221145.GAA25513@everglades.binc.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Darryl, To place a form field on every page of a document, select Tools->Forms->Fields->Duplicate. This has no batch operation. If you can use links instead of form fields, Ari's Link Tool will paste links onto every page of a batch of documents. Get a free demo from: http://www.dionis.com/demo/altdemob.html Some people use bookmarks to create "home" bookmarks. Since bookmarks are viewed in their own frame independent of what page you are viewing, they can function like a link or form field that is on every page. You can create these bookmarks in Acrobat, or Ari's Bookmark Tool will import bookmarks into the current file from a database that looks like: 1 Home GoToR HomeFile.pdf This will create one bookmark with a title of "Home" that will jump to page 1 of HomeFile.pdf when clicked. Next, you can use Ari's Bookmark Tool to copy the bookmark or bookmarks from the current file (such as the 'home' bookmark you just imported or created by yourself) into a folder full of files in batch mode. Get a free demo from: http://www.dionis.com/demo/abtdemob.html Best Regards, Dan-Ari Feinberg Dionis _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 28-Jul-1999 5:01:51-GMT,3941;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA03323 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 23:01:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA09682; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 23:58:02 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Tue, 27 Jul 1999 23:56:05 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA09533; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 23:56:02 -0500 Message-Id: <4.1.19990728134224.00c2d210@mail-321.corp.adobe.com> X-Sender: srosenba@mail-321.corp.adobe.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 13:51:16 +0900 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Sarah Rosenbaum Subject: Re: [PDF] HP OfficeJet 600 and dropped PS objects In-Reply-To: <27724.933071128@MessagingDirect.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Not to open the issue again, but this is not an Adobe PostScript printer (sad to say that HP decided to stop licensing Adobe PostScript software 3 years ago). I think one of three things is happening: 1. The device is using a clone PostSript interpreter 2. Acrobat is sending incomplete information to the printer (the same thing would happen with the same file to other PCL devices - have you tried this?) 3. The driver is dropping the information (which is usually the case with PCL printing problems). In the Acrobat Print dialog, choose "Print as Image" to force Acrobat to send am image to the printer (if your printer has enough memory). You should see on paper what you see on screen. HP does not have newer drivers posted on their web site for this device (I just checked). You might want to contact them if you continue to have problems printing. Sarah Rosenbaum Adobe Systems Incorporated At 11:25 AM 7/27/99 +0100, you wrote: >__________________________________________________________________ > >On Mon, 26 Jul 1999 17:30:12 EDT, David Tamburello wrote: >> The missing page objects were rotated. Once we straightened them out, they >> re-appeared. We'll continue to look for the underlying cause. The >> difference in file size is only 25K, so we don't think it was a memory >> problem, although we're still not sure, as the HP OfficeJet 600 has only >> 500K of printer memory. (Of course, the ultimate problem lies in the > >The difference in file size is not really relevant. The PostScript >interpreter will require some amount of memory in order to rotate and >render the offending objects. This could be a significant amount, >depending on the resolution, what it is rotating, and how big it is, >etc etc. > >Either use GhostScript to rasterize the page on your computer and then >get it to print the bitmap to your printer, or get more memory for your >printer. > >Chris > >_ >____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ ><- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> > <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> >___________________________________________________________ _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 28-Jul-1999 7:17:24-GMT,2376;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA06591 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 01:17:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA18728; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 02:13:56 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 28 Jul 1999 02:12:04 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA18602; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 02:12:01 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Plugin to make object non-printing (Mac) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 08:12:23 +0100 Message-ID: <001c01bed8c8$8ae0ce00$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ A plug-in cannot do much to influence the printing or screen display of the page contents, and there is no way to tag any part of the page contents for special treatment when printing. However, form fields may provide what you need. A form field can contain any combination of graphic objects, and can be marked as non-printing. No additional plug-ins needed. Aandi > Does anyone know of a plugin available that can make a graphic object > in a PDF non-printing (or, gasp, did I miss this and Acrobat can do > it without any help)? > > I'm using Macs, so a windows solution will do me no good. _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 28-Jul-1999 8:07:03-GMT,2287;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA07759 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 02:07:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA21884; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 03:02:19 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 28 Jul 1999 03:00:51 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA21590; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 03:00:49 -0500 Message-ID: <524A333ECC0AD3119FC300805F8513895350DB@perm02.woodside.com.au> From: "Wraight, David D." To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Plugin to make object non-printing (Mac) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 15:37:53 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ There is nothing you can do to stop the printing of a particular graphic but you can tag certain pages for printing at a later stage - take a look at the Print Helper Plugin from Dionis http://www.dionis.com/tb/pdf.html (No I don't work on commission 8^) )... Dave........ -------------- > A plug-in cannot do much to influence the printing or screen > display of the page contents, and there is no way to tag > any part of the page contents for special treatment when > printing. > > However, form fields may provide what you need. A form field > can contain any combination of graphic objects, and can > be marked as non-printing. No additional plug-ins needed. -------------------------- _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 28-Jul-1999 9:17:43-GMT,2007;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA09260 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 03:17:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA26133; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 04:07:26 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 28 Jul 1999 04:05:30 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA25973; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 04:05:29 -0500 Message-ID: <379EC7C3.CE63C19D@sarenet.es> Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 11:05:07 +0200 From: sanfelix X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Indexing custom private fields with Catalog4.0[Windons] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hello, Where can I find information about indexing custom private fields with Catalog4.0[Windons]? Someone wrote Acrobat Catalog 4.0 [Windows] stores this information in the registry and that a good document to become familiar with it is the Developer FAQ. I downloaded this document, but the information it provides doesn´t cover how to manage private fields. Thanks, -- Juan Mª San Félix _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 28-Jul-1999 10:30:23-GMT,2508;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA10937 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 04:30:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA31487; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 05:26:42 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 28 Jul 1999 05:25:07 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA31383; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 05:25:02 -0500 X-Sender: john@192.168.0.12 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 06:32:54 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: "John. A. Lutz" Subject: [PDF] Changing a Repeating Head Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I have a 1220 page document (divided into 4 linked .PDF files) for which I need to change the running head that is at the top of each page. I installed my Acrobat 4 hoping to find a Find/Change capability. Not so. Knowing about PitStop, I downloaded the trial version. It does a great job changing fonts, colors, etc, but no simple Find/Change. Anything I'm overlooking before I go back to my original files and start over? The change in the original file will be trivial and only take a few minutes, but recreating the indexes and links will push things beyond our deadline. Anything I'm overlooking? -- jal ======================================================= John A. Lutz john@truebasic.com True BASIC Inc. - founded by the inventors of BASIC 12 Commerce Avenue, West Lebanon NH 03784-1669 USA BASIC & QwikINFO Products - http://www.truebasic.com 800 436-2111 - 603 298-8517 - Fax: 603 298-7015 ======================================================= _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 28-Jul-1999 10:47:29-GMT,2088;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA11297 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 04:47:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA32692; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 05:42:18 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 28 Jul 1999 05:40:22 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA32405; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 05:40:22 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Changing a Repeating Head Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 11:40:42 +0100 Message-ID: <002701bed8e5$a4e787e0$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > The change in the original file will be trivial and only take a few > minutes, but recreating the indexes and links will push > things beyond our > deadline. You are overlooking Document > Replace pages. Use carefully: it keeps the links and bookmarks from the underlying file, while replacing the pages with new content. Aandi _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 28-Jul-1999 13:04:04-GMT,3813;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA14442 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 07:04:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA10459; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 08:00:51 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 28 Jul 1999 07:58:39 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA10158; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 07:58:37 -0500 Message-ID: <379EFF9D.1F8681DC@texas.net> Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 08:03:27 -0500 From: Robert Casey X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Byteserving.... delay in opening first page References: <199907280137.UAA25799@everglades.binc.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 09:58:24 -0400 > From: steve_russell@us.ibm.com > Subject: [PDF] Byteserving.... delay in opening first page > > More recently, we've moved to FrameMaker. Books created this way take a > significant time to display their first page. As an example, a 4 MB optimized > PDF opened in NetScape quickly displays "0% of 4331KB" in the status line, > following instantly by "0% of 1012KB". This 1MB is then fully downloaded before > the first page is displayed. On bad days, this can be a minute or more. My guess > is that FrameMaker is putting a whole bunch of bookmarks or other gorp up at > the start of the book and, for some reason, this gets downloaded before the page > info. It's a real nuisance because it defeats the whole point of having a > byteserving web server. > > Any ideas? > > Thanks, Steve Russell Steve, I have a similar problem with Ventura Publisher. There were options to generate bookmarks, index, etc. When selected, these have two major drawbacks: 1) they obviously increase the size substantially (30 to 40 % for me); 2) They produce huge pages which are byteserved (all 500 KB or 1.0 MB). Fortunately, Ventura Publisher does not place these generated pages as the first page. But when display the bookmark and /or index, it takes forever to download. If you can turn off those options and see if that is what is going on. Second, you might try force it be some other page other than page 1. Even if you succeed though, downloading the huge page will not be acceptable as the application is generating this large page. I was hoping that Ventura Publisher would download the letters on the index, then down all the first level entries on the index and then finally all the second level entries but it just downloads the entire index as one big page. This index works great on the hard drive and hopefully on a CD-ROM. As a workaround I developing a three tier index approach within the document but have to manually add links via Exchange between the back of the book index (generated fine & byte served per page) and the second level of the index (you can't link to pages that are automatically generated by Ventura). _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 28-Jul-1999 14:48:34-GMT,2600;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA17175 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 08:48:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA22226; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 09:44:08 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 28 Jul 1999 09:42:21 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA21971; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 09:42:10 -0500 X400-Received: by mta MTAmrshmc1 in /c=US/admd=mci/prmd=marshmc/; Relayed; 28 Jul 1999 14:41:16 Z X400-Received: by /c=US/admd=mci/prmd=marshmc/; Relayed; 28 Jul 1999 14:41:16 Z X400-MTS-Identifier: [/c=US/admd=mci/prmd=marshmc/; 014A5379F168C087-mrshmc1] Content-Identifier: 014A5379F168C087 Content-Return: Allowed X400-Content-Type: P2-1988 ( 22 ) Conversion: Allowed Original-Encoded-Information-Types: IA5-Text Disclose-Recipients: Prohibited Alternate-Recipient: Allowed X400-Originator: Stacey.Kahn@marshmc.com X400-Recipients: non-disclosure; Message-Id: <014A5379F168C087*/c=US/admd=mci/prmd=marshmc/o=email/ou=NotesWREN/s=Kahn/g=Stacey/@MHS> Date: 28 Jul 1999 14:41:16 Z From: Stacey Kahn To: pdf-basics , pdf Subject: [PDF] vertical line at edge of graphics? Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi, I'm using Word 97 file, Win95, Acrobat 3.01. A vertical line is printing at the right edge of several GIF images in my document. This line isn't part of the document itself or the image, and it seems to show up at random. (If I paste the same image three times on three separate pages, one or two will get the line and the other won't.) Nothing amiss shows up in the Word document or in the PDF file online. Any suggestions? Thanks- Stacey Kahn stacey.kahn@marshmc.com speaking for myself and not for Marsh, Inc. _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 28-Jul-1999 15:04:15-GMT,3700;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA17667 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 09:04:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA23047; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 09:50:34 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 28 Jul 1999 09:48:39 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA22792; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 09:48:38 -0500 Message-ID: <00EF773582D6D111939D00A0C9A92F6404789334@il0015exch003u.ih.lucent.com> From: "Farrell, Kevin (Kevin)" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] vertical line at edge of graphics? Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 09:48:26 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----_=_NextPart_000_01BED908.3FB78E27" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_000_01BED908.3FB78E27 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Try viewing your PDF on a PC w/a lower screen resolution. This has happened to me in the past (the customer freaked, because they were viewing it at 1284x1024 and the spots, lines, etc would show up). On a "normal" resolution, 1024x768 and lower, this was no longer an issue. See if that helps. kevin ------_=_NextPart_000_01BED908.3FB78E27 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Description: [PDF] vertical line at edge of graphics? Message-ID: <014A5379F168C087*/c=US/admd=mci/prmd=marshmc/o=email/ou=NotesWREN/s=Kahn/g=Stacey/@MHS> From: Stacey Kahn Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com To: pdf-basics , pdf Subject: [PDF] vertical line at edge of graphics? Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 09:41:16 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi, I'm using Word 97 file, Win95, Acrobat 3.01. A vertical line is printing at the right edge of several GIF images in my document. This line isn't part of the document itself or the image, and it seems to show up at random. (If I paste the same image three times on three separate pages, one or two will get the line and the other won't.) Nothing amiss shows up in the Word document or in the PDF file online. Any suggestions? Thanks- Stacey Kahn stacey.kahn@marshmc.com speaking for myself and not for Marsh, Inc. _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ ------_=_NextPart_000_01BED908.3FB78E27-- _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 28-Jul-1999 15:06:15-GMT,3519;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA17707 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 09:06:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA23509; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 09:52:59 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 28 Jul 1999 09:50:28 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA23023; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 09:50:27 -0500 Message-ID: <00EF773582D6D111939D00A0C9A92F6404789339@il0015exch003u.ih.lucent.com> From: "Farrell, Kevin (Kevin)" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] vertical line at edge of graphics? Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 09:50:24 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----_=_NextPart_000_01BED908.863EFE89" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_000_01BED908.863EFE89 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" okay, nevermind my last msg. I misread the content and apologize. Can't explain the appearance of lines in printed output. ------_=_NextPart_000_01BED908.863EFE89 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Description: [PDF] vertical line at edge of graphics? Message-ID: <014A5379F168C087*/c=US/admd=mci/prmd=marshmc/o=email/ou=NotesWREN/s=Kahn/g=Stacey/@MHS> From: Stacey Kahn Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com To: pdf-basics , pdf Subject: [PDF] vertical line at edge of graphics? Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 09:41:16 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi, I'm using Word 97 file, Win95, Acrobat 3.01. A vertical line is printing at the right edge of several GIF images in my document. This line isn't part of the document itself or the image, and it seems to show up at random. (If I paste the same image three times on three separate pages, one or two will get the line and the other won't.) Nothing amiss shows up in the Word document or in the PDF file online. Any suggestions? Thanks- Stacey Kahn stacey.kahn@marshmc.com speaking for myself and not for Marsh, Inc. _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ ------_=_NextPart_000_01BED908.863EFE89-- _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 28-Jul-1999 15:29:13-GMT,1701;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA18487 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 09:29:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA27708; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 10:25:16 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 28 Jul 1999 10:22:29 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA27324; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 10:22:26 -0500 From: tsequeira@symcorinc.ca X-Lotus-FromDomain: SYMCORINC To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <852567BC.005333EE.00@symnts1h.symcorinc.ca> Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 11:19:33 -0400 Subject: Re: [PDF] vertical line at edge of graphics? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I think you are using the PDF Writer instead of Distiller to convert to PDF. If you use the Distiller, the line will disappear. Tino www.pathcom.com/~formsrus _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 28-Jul-1999 16:17:52-GMT,2081;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA19842 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 10:16:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA01913; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 11:13:00 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 28 Jul 1999 11:08:34 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA01238; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 11:08:32 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.32.19990728110558.006d70a8@omnipress.com> X-Sender: uschan@omnipress.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 11:05:59 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Christopher Uschan Subject: [PDF] acrobat 4.0 files saved then viewed on 3.0 readers Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I assume that there are issues with this subject. The 4.0 saves out 1.3 pdfs and the 3.0 saves out 1.2 pdfs. Where can I find documentation or support on this issue? Has anyone ran into any problems on this issue at this point? This issue have nothing to do with Prepress, rather just creation and distribution. Thanks! Chris Uschan ------------ Digital Resources Manager - OMNIPRESS phone: 608-246-2600 fax: 608-246-4237 Learn more about us at http://www.omnipress.com _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 28-Jul-1999 16:23:56-GMT,2170;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA20058 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 10:23:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA02699; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 11:19:25 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 28 Jul 1999 11:16:51 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA02380; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 11:16:50 -0500 Message-Id: <199907281616.JAA16052@mail.inficad.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 09:16:48 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] acrobat 4.0 files saved then viewed on 3.0 readers From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > I assume that there are issues with this subject. The 4.0 saves out 1.3 > pdfs and the 3.0 saves out 1.2 pdfs. Where can I find documentation or > support on this issue? > > Has anyone ran into any problems on this issue at this point? Chris: Acrobat 4 with Screen Optimized settings saves Acrobat 3-compatible files by default, as there are many incompatibility issues between 4x-saved documents and Reader 3. Two resources are: http://www.pdfzone.com http://www.adobe.com Yes, we read of problems on this list every day. r|i|c|h _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 28-Jul-1999 17:28:47-GMT,2916;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA21755 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 11:28:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA10229; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 12:21:35 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 28 Jul 1999 12:17:52 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA09732; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 12:17:49 -0500 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 16:57:19 +0100 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: David R Evans Subject: Re: [PDF] Indexing custom private fields with Catalog4.0[Windons] In-Reply-To: <379EC7C3.CE63C19D@sarenet.es> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-Mailer: Turnpike Version 3.03a Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id MAA09727 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ In message <379EC7C3.CE63C19D@sarenet.es>, sanfelix wrote: >Where can I find information about indexing custom private fields with >Catalog4.0[Windons]? >Someone wrote Acrobat Catalog 4.0 [Windows] stores this information in >the registry and that a good document to become familiar with it is the >Developer FAQ. I downloaded this document, but the information it >provides doesn´t cover how to manage private fields. You need to look at the Acrobat SDK which can be downloaded from: http://partners.adobe.com/asn/developer/acrosdk/main.html This includes the Catalog API document CATAPI.PDF which provides a sample ".reg" file that should help to get you started. David --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dr David R Evans Telephone: (+44) 115 9860048 / 9514230 Merlin Open Systems Facsimile: (+44) 115 9860048 P O Box 230 E-mail: dre@merlin-os.co.uk NOTTINGHAM WWW: http://www.merlin-os.co.uk/ NG2 1LJ, UK Acrobat resellers, specialists in Adobe Acrobat plug-ins and electronic publishing software, publishers of Acrobatics _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 28-Jul-1999 20:15:14-GMT,1923;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA26655 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 14:15:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA29581; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 15:07:54 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 28 Jul 1999 15:05:20 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA29125; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 15:05:07 -0500 Message-ID: <01BED912.D006D520.jay@bcatech.com> From: Jay Chapman To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: [PDF] looking for ultimate pdf creation software... Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 16:04:02 -0400 Organization: BCA X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Greetings PDF guru's... I am looking for a software package that I can feed a scan of a page containing text and graphics and it will OCR the text and return a pdf with graphics and editable text. Does such a miracle program exist? Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thank you, Jay Chapman _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 28-Jul-1999 20:29:17-GMT,2399;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA27080 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 14:29:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA32000; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 15:25:58 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 28 Jul 1999 15:24:29 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA31866; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 15:24:28 -0500 Message-ID: <6031CF804B89D111B9F00020AFD0D9A6080049@PARAV_SERVER> From: Vincent Huang To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] looking for ultimate pdf creation software... Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 13:28:27 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ You can use Acrobat 4.0 which has the Capture 2.01 engine plug-in. Or you may go with Adobe Capture 2.01 full version (at $899 list) Or, our newly released (humble) software PageGenieWeb with many more advanced features may be the perfect tool for you. Check our web site or contact me privately. Vincent Huang PageGenieWeb: Moving printed contents to the Web--WYSIWYG HTML, PDF (normal or hidden text) , or Java. http://www.pagegenie.com -----Original Message----- From: Jay Chapman [mailto:jay@bcatech.com] I am looking for a software package that I can feed a scan of a page containing text and graphics and it will OCR the text and return a pdf with graphics and editable text. Does such a miracle program exist? Any advice would be greatly appreciated. ___________________________________________________________ _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 29-Jul-1999 15:39:36-GMT,1729;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA25228 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 09:39:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA02911; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 10:25:41 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 29 Jul 1999 10:20:40 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA02098; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 10:20:37 -0500 Message-Id: <199907291520.KAA02090@everglades.binc.net> X-Sender: castidata@mail.compusmart.ab.ca X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 09:23:00 -0600 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Kevin Chu Subject: [PDF] Converting images In-Reply-To: <379FD564.A7A3952E@primary.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi, Is there a way to convert multiple (around 50) tif files into eps files easily and quickly? Thanks! _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 29-Jul-1999 15:48:43-GMT,1949;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA25479 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 09:48:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA04852; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 10:41:41 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 29 Jul 1999 10:40:28 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA04604; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 10:40:26 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19990729174108.00960800@ms90.vtex.lt> X-Sender: sarunas@ms90.vtex.lt X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 17:41:08 +0100 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Sarunas Subject: Re: [PDF] Converting images In-Reply-To: <199907291520.KAA02090@everglades.binc.net> References: <379FD564.A7A3952E@primary.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >Hi, > >Is there a way to convert multiple (around 50) tif files into eps files >easily and quickly? > >Thanks! Windows? Paint Shop Pro ( File | Batch Conversion). Sarunas Burdulis Head Electronic Publishing, VTEX Ltd. sarunas@vtex.lt Office +370 2 729609, GSM +370 98 24498 _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 29-Jul-1999 15:49:00-GMT,1856;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA25492 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 09:48:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA04486; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 10:39:06 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 29 Jul 1999 10:37:54 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA04331; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 10:37:53 -0500 Message-Id: <199907291537.IAA78896@mail.inficad.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 08:37:50 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Converting images From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > Is there a way to convert multiple (around 50) tif files into eps files > easily and quickly? Try a program called DeBabelizer which does batch file conversion. r|i|c|h P.S. This is the wrong list for this question, unless it has something to do with PDF. _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 29-Jul-1999 16:16:08-GMT,2801;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA26253 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 10:16:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA08406; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 11:11:06 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 29 Jul 1999 11:09:46 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA08201; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 11:09:45 -0500 Message-Id: <199907291610.MAA21515@mx03.together.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 12:04:25 +0000 Subject: Re: [PDF] Converting images From: "Will Mitchell" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ use photoshop 4 or 5's action palette. record save as eps with the proper settings and destination five times. then record the playback of that action twice use the second action to save 10 files with each stroke of the function key. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Will Mitchell Reply to: mailto:Will@OffsetHouse.com The Offset House- http://www.OffsetHouse.com 89 Sand Hill Rd | PO Box 8929 | Essex VT 05451 ph 802-878-4440 | fx 802-879-4865 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ---------- >From: Kevin Chu >To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com >Subject: [PDF] Converting images >Date: Thu, Jul 29, 1999, 3:23 PM > > > The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > > Hi, > > Is there a way to convert multiple (around 50) tif files into eps files > easily and quickly? > > Thanks! > > _ > ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ > <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> > <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> > ___________________________________________________________ _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 29-Jul-1999 16:34:36-GMT,2149;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA26794 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 10:34:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA10647; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 11:31:18 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 29 Jul 1999 11:29:41 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA10414; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 11:29:39 -0500 Subject: [PDF] Re: Converting Images Date: Thu, 29 Jul 99 12:29:25 -0400 x-sender: ideaslists@mail.ideasdtp.com x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v2, June 6, 1997 From: David Creamer To: , Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-Id: <19990729162925.HADL13185@[12.77.153.188]> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Original Post: >Is there a way to convert multiple (around 50) tif files into eps files >easily and quickly? The easiest way is to set up an Action and Batch process in Photoshop 5.0 since you may have the software already (set it up and go out to lunch). You can also look into DeBabelizer for Mac or Windows (about $370). Or, if using Mac, try the freeware Graphic Converter. David Creamer I.D.E.A.S. www.ideasdtp.com Publishing Consultant & Trainer Authorized Quark Trainer Authorized Adobe Training Provider Apple Solution Expert Member _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 29-Jul-1999 19:56:29-GMT,4793;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA02700 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 13:56:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA31464; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 14:52:31 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 29 Jul 1999 14:49:54 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA31003; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 14:49:51 -0500 Message-ID: <001e01bed9fb$516bf1c0$466564c8@MAbrahamson> From: "Michael Abrahamson" To: "PDF List" Subject: [PDF] E-mail PDF Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 15:48:23 -0400 Organization: Liturgical Publications MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001B_01BED9D9.CA38C000" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01BED9D9.CA38C000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Recently, a plug-in for Exchange has been created that adds a send mail = option to the file menu on Macs. This feature already exists in Acrobat = 4 for Windows. My question relates to the support for e-mail client = programs. As per the announcement: >The following e-mail clients are supported, > >AOL >EMailer >Eudora >Mailsmith >Outlook Express >QuickMail >ccMail Knowing that Windows operates very differently with regard to = MAPI-enabled mail clients, could it be said that support for AOL is = limited to the Mac? I was not aware of any settings in AOL for Windows = that allowed you to enable MAPI support. I assumed (because I do not = use AOL since the catastrophe of '96) that because AOL has its own = proprietary e-mail system that it could not be activated from the Send = Mail feature in Acrobat 4. Is this assumption incorrect? Would someone = be able to initiate a new message from within Acrobat 4 if they were = using AOL? Thanks to anyone who responds. Mike Abrahamson Liturgical Publications ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01BED9D9.CA38C000 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Recently, a plug-in for Exchange has = been created=20 that adds a send mail option to the file menu on Macs.  This = feature=20 already exists in Acrobat 4 for Windows.  My question relates to = the=20 support for e-mail client programs.  As per the = announcement:
 
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Knowing that Windows = operates very=20 differently with regard to MAPI-enabled mail clients, could it be said = that=20 support for AOL is limited to the Mac?  I was not aware of any = settings in=20 AOL for Windows that allowed you to enable MAPI support.  I assumed = (because I do not use AOL since the catastrophe of '96) that because AOL = has its=20 own proprietary e-mail system that it could not be activated from the = Send Mail=20 feature in Acrobat 4.  Is this assumption incorrect?  Would = someone be=20 able to initiate a new message from within Acrobat 4 if they were using=20 AOL?  Thanks to anyone who responds.
 
Mike Abrahamson
Liturgical = Publications
------=_NextPart_000_001B_01BED9D9.CA38C000-- _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 29-Jul-1999 21:08:54-GMT,2500;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA04714 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 15:08:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA05549; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 16:01:36 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 29 Jul 1999 15:57:47 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA05142; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 15:57:45 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: mgavin_list@smtp.digapp.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <001e01bed9fb$516bf1c0$466564c8@MAbrahamson> Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 16:58:48 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Mark Gavin Subject: Re: [PDF] E-mail PDF Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >Knowing that Windows operates very differently with regard to MAPI-enabled >mail clients, could it be said that support for AOL is limited to the >Mac? I was not aware of any settings in AOL for Windows that allowed you >to enable MAPI support. I assumed (because I do not use AOL since the >catastrophe of '96) that because AOL has its own proprietary e-mail system >that it could not be activated from the Send Mail feature in Acrobat 4. >Is this assumption incorrect? Would someone be able to initiate a new >message from within Acrobat 4 if they were using AOL? Thanks to anyone >who responds. > >Mike Abrahamson >Liturgical Publications The "MailPDF" plug-in on the Macintosh uses AppleEvents, not MAPI, to send instructions to the supported email applications. Mark Gavin Vice President, Software Development Digital Applications, Inc. 215 East Providence Road Aldan, PA 19018-4129 (610) 284-4006 http://www.digapp.com _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 29-Jul-1999 21:27:28-GMT,2608;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA05258 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 15:27:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA07534; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 16:21:36 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 29 Jul 1999 16:20:23 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA07359; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 16:20:22 -0500 Message-ID: <002e01beda07$f6ab4bc0$466564c8@MAbrahamson> From: "Michael Abrahamson" To: References: Subject: Re: [PDF] E-mail PDF Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 17:18:54 -0400 Organization: Liturgical Publications MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I just had wondered since AOL was supported through whatever the Mac procedure is, could it also be supported through MAPI. Does AOL operate more in line with the Mac OS to make it available to AppleEvents where it falls short with MAPI in Windows? Mike > The "MailPDF" plug-in on the Macintosh uses AppleEvents, not MAPI, to send > instructions to the supported email applications. > Mark Gavin > Vice President, Software Development > Digital Applications, Inc. > 215 East Providence Road > Aldan, PA 19018-4129 > (610) 284-4006 > http://www.digapp.com > > _ > ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ > <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> > <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> > ___________________________________________________________ > _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 29-Jul-1999 22:31:32-GMT,1894;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA06982 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 16:31:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA14084; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 17:28:34 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 29 Jul 1999 17:26:53 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA13841; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 17:26:51 -0500 Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 15:26:47 -0700 (PDT) From: George Johnson To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] CorelDRAW 9 and "Robust PDF support" Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I was looking into the new CorelDRAW 9 suite and came across the following in a list of suite-wide features: "Robust PDF support, including import and export, job ticketing, bookmarks, image downsampling and more" I would appreciate comments from anyone with experience using these features. Also, how is it for PDF source document creation in general? Thanks! _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 30-Jul-1999 0:14:46-GMT,2454;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA09657 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 18:14:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA22948; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 19:11:37 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 29 Jul 1999 19:08:26 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA22646; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 19:08:24 -0500 Message-ID: <19990730000857.740.rocketmail@web503.yahoomail.com> Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 17:08:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Beata Becla Subject: [PDF] Pop-ups menus in PDF To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi, We have on-line help system created in FrameMaker which needs to be converted to PDF. The tricky part of it is the conversion of the pop-up menus. They look exactly like standard menus in any program. They work nicely in Frame: menu opens when you click the button. When you click the item on the menu it opens another help file with related topic. Sometimes there are two- or even three-level menus. But they are lost when converted to pdf. Is there any way to convert the FrameMaker help file with pop-up menus to pdf without loosing the menus? I suspect there is no easy way... So, is it possible to write a Java script which would recreate the pop-up menus, and using a form tool, attach it (probably this is the wrong word) to the pdf file? If yes, how difficult/time consuming is it? Thanks in advance, Beata _____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 30-Jul-1999 2:49:34-GMT,2572;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA13288 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 20:49:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA03775; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 21:44:03 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Thu, 29 Jul 1999 21:41:31 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA03513; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 21:41:29 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19990729230743.0079f9e0@pop.online.de> X-Sender: 1025-56@pop.online.de X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 23:07:43 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Reinhard Jaehnig Subject: [PDF] Distributing files for Acrobat 3.0 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I'm hesitant about switching to Acrobat 4.0 / PDF 1.3 too soon. I had rather wait till Acrobat 4.0 Reader has spread a bit and then do the conversion. Only problem is: How can I make sure that files created with Acrobat 4.0 are truly compatible with Acrobat 3.0 ? Our PDF manuals consist of several parts which are distilled separately and then brought together using Acrobat (Exchange). I distill using Acrobat 3.0 compatibility option in Distiller (Header says: PDF 1.2). I then bring up Acrobat, merge the PDF files into one, and save (Header says: PDF 1.3). A plain vanilla text file will come up nicely in Acrobat 3 -- no error messages. Using the page numbering scheme doesn't lead to an error either. When I save the file in Exchange 3.0, the Header still says PDF 1.3. How can I be sure that the files do not contain anything that will lead to error messages when viewed with Acrobat 3.0 ? Is using Distiller 4.0 and Acrobat Exchange 3.x the only way ? Reinhard _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 30-Jul-1999 5:23:49-GMT,2159;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA16899 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 23:23:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA15857; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 00:18:45 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 30 Jul 1999 00:15:42 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA15650; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 00:15:40 -0500 Message-ID: <37A132EC.FE2C5E98@lauterkranz.com> Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 07:06:52 +0200 From: Richard Lauterkranz X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Document Name References: <19990730000857.740.rocketmail@web503.yahoomail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi Is there a chance to automatically create a Form-field containing the Document Name and Date on each page during distilling process. We found out how to create a Form field with the help of PDF-Marks. And we learned (tip from PDF-List) how to put The Doc-Name into it using Javascript. But is there a chance to include the Javascript into the PDF-Marks so that Doc-Name and Date will be inserted into the Field during distilling process?? Thanks for any help Richard _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 30-Jul-1999 6:20:36-GMT,1933;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA18427 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 00:20:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA19673; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 01:14:44 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 30 Jul 1999 01:13:30 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA19609; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 01:13:28 -0500 Message-ID: <01BEDA96.2A3C5860@PC6837> From: Jessie Ambrosio To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" , "'acrobat@blueworld.com'" Subject: [PDF] PDF Total Characters Per Page Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 14:16:48 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id BAA19604 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hello PDFers! Once again, i need your expert advice on PDF. My question is, is it possible to get the total number of characters per page in a PDF without actually extracting the text data? The type of PDF is "Image with Hidden Text". TIA, Jessie _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 30-Jul-1999 6:53:51-GMT,2352;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA19134 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 00:53:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA21894; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 01:47:46 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 30 Jul 1999 01:46:16 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA21747; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 01:46:07 -0500 Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 23:46:04 -0700 (PDT) From: George Johnson To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Document Name In-Reply-To: <37A132EC.FE2C5E98@lauterkranz.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > Is there a chance to automatically create a Form-field containing the > Document Name and Date on each page during distilling process. > We found out how to create a Form field with the help of PDF-Marks. > And we learned (tip from PDF-List) how to put The Doc-Name into it using > Javascript. > But is there a chance to include the Javascript into the PDF-Marks so > that Doc-Name and Date will be inserted into the Field during distilling > process?? Yes, you can do this. I would set up a document-level JavaScript that executes when the document is opened that sets the value of your form fields. Thomas Merz explains how to do this in his book "Web Publishing with Acrobat/PDF", the relevant chapter of which is available in PDF from his web site, which I don't have handy right now. _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 30-Jul-1999 8:55:30-GMT,2121;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA21706 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 02:55:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA29598; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 03:49:17 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 30 Jul 1999 03:47:26 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA29507; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 03:47:18 -0500 Message-ID: <37A166D6.E6D27DB3@pacific.net.sg> Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 16:48:22 +0800 From: jo leong X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Opening a file at a named destination or page Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi, does anyone know how I can set a button action to open another file at a specific page or named destination. The Acrobat documentation only seems to show how to do this when accessing pages thru a web browser. What about CD-ROM applications that just use the reader. Is there a javascript command ? I know you can jump to a named destination within the same document using the javascript command gotoNamedDest "destination" but I'm not sure how you do this when the name destination is in a different document. Would appreciate any help on this. Jo Leong _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 30-Jul-1999 12:23:00-GMT,1692;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA26163 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 06:22:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA10994; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 07:18:03 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 30 Jul 1999 07:16:21 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA10820; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 07:16:19 -0500 From: tsequeira@symcorinc.ca X-Lotus-FromDomain: SYMCORINC To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Message-ID: <852567BE.00422654.00@symnts1h.symcorinc.ca> Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 08:13:22 -0400 Subject: [PDF] Converting a PCL file to PDF format Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Can somebody please help me? I have been asked to convert a PCL file to PDF format. What is a PCL file and how do you convert it to PDF format? TIA Tino _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 30-Jul-1999 12:50:34-GMT,2182;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA26779 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 06:50:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA13213; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 07:44:21 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 30 Jul 1999 07:43:13 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA13131; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 07:43:12 -0500 Message-Id: <199907301243.FAA08802@mail.inficad.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 05:43:07 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Converting a PCL file to PDF format From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > Can somebody please help me? I have been asked to convert a PCL file to PDF > format. > What is a PCL file and how do you convert it to PDF format? > TIA > Tino PCL stands for Printer Control Language, it is basically HP's print driver. To convert a PCL file to PDF you need a utility. Check out PCL Tool Program for $149.00 from Pagetech, http://www.pcltools.com. There is also a freeware program available from the same company called FormView which may also do what you need. Information to answer this question came from the resources at pdfzone.com. r|i|c|h _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 30-Jul-1999 13:03:05-GMT,2430;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA27077 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 07:03:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA14314; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 07:57:57 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 30 Jul 1999 07:56:47 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA14180; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 07:56:46 -0500 Message-Id: <199907301256.FAA10475@mail.inficad.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 05:56:42 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] CorelDRAW 9 and "Robust PDF support" From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > I was looking into the new CorelDRAW 9 suite and came across the following > in a list of suite-wide features: > > "Robust PDF support, including import and export, job ticketing, > bookmarks, image downsampling and more" Robust, huh? I don't know about you, but while not perfect, I would trust Distiller more than Corel for downsampling images. Notwithstanding the fact there is a known bug in Distiller 4 wherein file sizes are larger than its older brother. At least Corel is promoting the PDF concept which is a good thing. > I would appreciate comments from anyone with experience using these > features. Also, how is it for PDF source document creation in general? If you can print a ps file, and have Acrobat 3 or 4 installed, you can create a PDF from Corel just like most other applications. r|i|c|h _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 30-Jul-1999 13:04:40-GMT,2896;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA27115 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 07:04:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA14719; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 08:01:14 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 30 Jul 1999 08:00:08 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA14536; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 08:00:05 -0500 From: Laura.Dietz@arcor.net X-Lotus-FromDomain: ARCOR To: pdf@lists.emrg.com Message-ID: <412567BE.004B33CA.00@slz-01-hub01.cni.net> Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 14:59:37 +0100 Subject: [PDF] Extraction of PDF-Links and Documentinfo / PDF Filesystem -> Lotus Notes Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi, WE HAVE a bunch of PDF-files on a Novell filesystem, wich build their own navigating structure: You start with a content.pdf that got PDF-Links to other content.pdf's that link to other content.pdf's ... that link to *the real* document you want to view WE WANT a Lotus Notes database that got "the real" documents as an attachement to Lotus Notes documents, with ... 1) the docinfo's 2) the navigational path through the content-pages ... put into adequate Lotus Notes fields (the navigational path calculates from the titles of the content pages you'll have to navigate e.g. "Content1\Content2\last Content page") thus, we need to extract PDF-Link references _and_ DocInfo's from our bunch of PDF's DOES ANYONE has a solution for a similar problem and/or accepts a bid? (You can mail directly to Laura.Dietz@arcor.net) Regards, Laura Dietz =================================================================== Mannesmann Arcor AG & Co., Koelnerstr. 5, 65760 Eschborn , Germany =================================================================== Laura Dietz, FIO E-Mail: Laura.Dietz@arcor.net Phone: +49 69 2169 - 5659, Fax: - 3939 =================================================================== For more information: http://www.arcor.net =================================================================== _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 30-Jul-1999 13:32:17-GMT,3312;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA27780 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 07:32:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA17108; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 08:27:05 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 30 Jul 1999 08:25:21 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA16939; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 08:25:19 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990730092906.008eaa20@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 09:29:06 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] CorelDRAW 9 and "Robust PDF support" In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >I was looking into the new CorelDRAW 9 suite and came across the following >in a list of suite-wide features: > >"Robust PDF support, including import and export, job ticketing, >bookmarks, image downsampling and more" > >I would appreciate comments from anyone with experience using these >features. Also, how is it for PDF source document creation in general? > PDF support in Draw9 is quite good and miles ahead of what it has been in the past. Links are a little peculiar, as you create them using the tools Corel provides for (what were originally) HTML hyperlinks, so the terminology is odd; still, they seem to work well. I can't say that I've tested it extensively, but I did administer a couple pretty severe beatings to it and it did itself proud. Your particular mix of documents might stress it in ways that never crossed my mind, of course, so your mileage may vary. And all those usual disclaimers. ;-) As far as source document creation, that'd depend on the sort of document you mean. Draw is *not* a DTP app, it's a drawing program. Handling lots of text in it is slow and cranky, IMO. That's not a criticism of Draw itself so much as of the marketing people who insist on positioning it at least partially as a DTP app. Odd, when they also have Ventura Publisher to sell you. And if it doesn't already, VP should have the same PDF support soon; for long documents I'd think it would be a better choice. Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 30-Jul-1999 13:35:38-GMT,2850;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA27843 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 07:35:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA17285; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 08:28:39 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 30 Jul 1999 08:27:32 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA17164; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 08:27:31 -0500 Message-Id: <199907301327.GAA14644@mail.inficad.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 06:27:28 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Distributing files for Acrobat 3.0 From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > I'm hesitant about switching to Acrobat 4.0 / PDF 1.3 too soon. > I had rather wait till Acrobat 4.0 Reader has spread a bit and > then do the conversion. Only problem is: How can I make sure > that files created with Acrobat 4.0 are truly compatible with > Acrobat 3.0 ? The default compatibility setting in Acrobat 4x for Screen (web viewing and local printing) is 3x. The Print and Press settings can also be customized for 3x compatibility, while the issue there doesn't seem to be as great (it's all the 3x Readers that we have to look out for). > Our PDF manuals consist of several parts which are distilled > separately and then brought together using Acrobat (Exchange). > I distill using Acrobat 3.0 compatibility option in Distiller > (Header says: PDF 1.2). I then bring up Acrobat, merge the PDF > files into one, and save (Header says: PDF 1.3). > How can I be sure that the files do not contain anything that > will lead to error messages when viewed with Acrobat 3.0 ? > Is using Distiller 4.0 and Acrobat Exchange 3.x the only way ? Once the file is created in Distiller 4 with 3x compatibility, it doesn't matter whether you use Exchange 3x or Acrobat 4 to open it and/or make further changes to the file. r|i|c|h _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 29-Jul-1999 2:19:03-GMT,2247;000000000001 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA06811 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 20:19:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA03908; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 21:13:16 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Wed, 28 Jul 1999 21:09:39 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA03387; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 21:09:36 -0500 Message-ID: <379FD564.A7A3952E@primary.net> Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 21:15:32 -0700 From: rhoggard X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "pdf-digest@lists.pdfzone.com" Subject: re: [PDF] Plugin to make object non-printing (Mac) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ "Jonathan Bauer" wrote: > Does anyone know of a plugin available that can make a graphic object > in a PDF non-printing (or, gasp, did I miss this and Acrobat can do > it without any help)? > > I'm using Macs, so a windows solution will do me no good. > > TIA, > > Jonathan > One method would be to create a pdf of the graphic by itself. You could then use that pdf as an icon on a Forms button. Under Forms properties you can select the "Don't Print" option. More detailed information regarding creating your own icons can be found within the Exchange help files. Randy Hoggard Technical Writer Interim Technology Consulting _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 30-Jul-1999 15:28:12-GMT,2087;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA00992 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 09:28:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA29520; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 10:22:50 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 30 Jul 1999 10:21:26 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA29277; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 10:21:24 -0500 Message-ID: <37A1C3FE.CBD8552D@etic.be> Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 17:25:50 +0200 From: "Evelyne Leblois" Organization: ETIC A.I. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] link from full screen Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi everyone, I am working on a CD-ROM that will contains the main results (documents) of a Project. There is a Table of Contents in full screen, and from there all the documents are linked. I haven't found the way to open the documents in not full screen. I tried via the Open Document Info and the Set Page Action. (As the documents are set up to open with the bookmarks, the bookmarks appear in a separate window in the full screen). Any idea will be welcomed? I am using acrobat 4.0 Evelyne _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 30-Jul-1999 15:33:18-GMT,2446;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA01161 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 09:33:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA28697; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 10:16:37 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 30 Jul 1999 10:15:24 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA28543; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 10:15:20 -0500 Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 08:15:17 -0700 (PDT) From: George Johnson To: "'PDF Mailing List'" Subject: Re: [PDF] Acrobat 4.0 without Reader causing problems in EDMS In-Reply-To: <76F37B2B6013D21184E400A02461E5AF014C9AE7@msexchg1.wcnoc.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > The EDMS is configured to look for the filename ACRORD32.EXE to launch > PDF files (and the path is specified by the user). Since the > executables have different file names (ACRORD32.EXE for the Reader, > ACROBAT.EXE for Acrobat), and since I don't have the Reader installed, > the EDMS gives an error message when attempting to launch documents on > my desktop, even if I point it to the right path. I can't reconfigure > the EDMS, for if I did so, then users with only the Reader would be > unable to read PDF files. You should be able to reconfigure the EDMS to launch whichever Acrobat viewer is associated with PDF files. There are a number of Windows API functions for doing this, including "ShellExecute" (and FindExecutable, or something like that). If you need more info, let us know. _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 30-Jul-1999 15:35:16-GMT,2438;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA01226 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 09:35:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA26533; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 09:57:27 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 30 Jul 1999 09:54:49 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA26279; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 09:54:48 -0500 Message-Id: <199907301454.HAA28620@mail.inficad.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 07:54:43 -0700 Subject: Re: Re(2): [PDF] Distributing files for Acrobat 3.0 From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >>Once the file is created in Distiller 4 with 3x compatibility, it doesn't >>matter whether you use Exchange 3x or Acrobat 4 to open it and/or make >>further changes to the file. > > There is a current exception to that statement. You cannot use embed and > subset TrueType fonts on the Macintosh and get compatibility with Acrobat > 3. If you do so, when you open in up in Acrobat 3.0x or Reader 3.0x, > you'll get a message to the effect that "certain characters may not > display or print correct". And they do not...when printed, the TrueType > text will turn into garbage. > > I passed this on as a bug report to Adobe and it was confirmed by an Adobe > QA technician. Still not fixed. Werner is right!!! There is another damn bug. Now I have to go back and modify my Embed and Subset article. Shucks. r|i|c|h _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 30-Jul-1999 15:36:27-GMT,2186;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA01294 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 09:36:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA25066; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 09:42:44 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 30 Jul 1999 09:41:36 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA24861; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 09:41:36 -0500 Message-id: Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 06:48:22 +0100 Subject: Re(2): [PDF] Distributing files for Acrobat 3.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Cc: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: werner@rapidgraphics.com (Steve Werner) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ pdf@lists.pdfzone.com writes: >Once the file is created in Distiller 4 with 3x compatibility, it doesn't >matter whether you use Exchange 3x or Acrobat 4 to open it and/or make >further changes to the file. There is a current exception to that statement. You cannot use embed and subset TrueType fonts on the Macintosh and get compatibility with Acrobat 3. If you do so, when you open in up in Acrobat 3.0x or Reader 3.0x, you'll get a message to the effect that "certain characters may not display or print correct". And they do not...when printed, the TrueType text will turn into garbage. I passed this on as a bug report to Adobe and it was confirmed by an Adobe QA technician. Still not fixed. _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 30-Jul-1999 15:37:08-GMT,2984;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA01320 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 09:37:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA24640; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 09:39:51 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 30 Jul 1999 09:38:47 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA24529; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 09:38:45 -0500 Message-ID: <76F37B2B6013D21184E400A02461E5AF014C9AE7@msexchg1.wcnoc.com> From: Decker Gary E To: "'PDF Mailing List'" , "'Acrobat Talk Mailing List'" Subject: [PDF] Acrobat 4.0 without Reader causing problems in EDMS Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 09:38:37 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ We have an EDMS that can store and launch documents in Adobe Acrobat format. Problem is, it is configured to launch documents using the Acrobat Reader, and I have only Acrobat 4.0 installed (the person doing the install did not see a need for a separate reader, and I agreed at the time). The EDMS is configured to look for the filename ACRORD32.EXE to launch PDF files (and the path is specified by the user). Since the executables have different file names (ACRORD32.EXE for the Reader, ACROBAT.EXE for Acrobat), and since I don't have the Reader installed, the EDMS gives an error message when attempting to launch documents on my desktop, even if I point it to the right path. I can't reconfigure the EDMS, for if I did so, then users with only the Reader would be unable to read PDF files. I know that with Acrobat 3.0, it was possible to have both Acrobat and the Reader installed on the same PC, and I presume (cringe) that the same is true of 4.0. However, if I do so, I'm thinking that the install will cause my OS (Windows NT 4.0 SP 3) to associate the Reader as the default application for launching PDF files, and I don't want that. How can I install the Reader and still have Acrobat as my default application for launching PDF files otherwise (outside of the EDMS)? I don't really want to have to reinstall Acrobat 4.0 again. _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 30-Jul-1999 15:37:23-GMT,3906;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA01332 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 09:37:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA24323; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 09:37:00 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 30 Jul 1999 09:35:19 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA24151; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 09:35:18 -0500 Message-ID: <003e01beda98$b60f6920$466564c8@MAbrahamson> From: "Michael Abrahamson" To: "PDF List" Subject: [PDF] PDF file names Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 10:35:03 -0400 Organization: Liturgical Publications MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_003B_01BEDA77.2EED0040" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_003B_01BEDA77.2EED0040 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all. I am using Word 97 on a Win 95 machine with Acrobat 4. When = converting a Word file whose name, for example, is "testfile.doc" using = Distiller 4 (I've tried both screen optimized and print optimized = settings), the resulting PDF file name appears to have come straight out = of the Word title bar: "Microsoft Word - testfile.pdf". Is there any = way I can prevent Distiller from adding the extra prefix to the file = name? In thinking about having our customers send PDF files created = with Acrobat 4, we must be assured that file naming conventions are not = jeopardized. TIA, Mike Abrahamson Liturgical Publications ------=_NextPart_000_003B_01BEDA77.2EED0040 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi all.  I am using Word 97 on a = Win 95=20 machine with Acrobat 4.  When converting a Word file whose name, = for=20 example, is "testfile.doc" using Distiller 4 (I've tried both screen = optimized=20 and print optimized settings), the resulting PDF file name appears to = have come=20 straight out of the Word title bar: "Microsoft Word - = testfile.pdf".  Is=20 there any way I can prevent Distiller from adding the extra prefix to = the file=20 name?  In thinking about having our customers send PDF files = created with=20 Acrobat 4, we must be assured that file naming conventions are not=20 jeopardized.
 
TIA,
Mike Abrahamson
Liturgical = Publications
------=_NextPart_000_003B_01BEDA77.2EED0040-- _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 30-Jul-1999 15:42:07-GMT,2279;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA01446 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 09:42:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA30945; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 10:37:58 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 30 Jul 1999 10:34:29 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA30641; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 10:34:28 -0500 Message-Id: <199907301534.IAA37318@mail.inficad.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 08:34:25 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] link from full screen From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > I am working on a CD-ROM that will contains the main results > (documents) of a Project. There is a Table of Contents in full > screen, and from there all the documents are linked. I haven't > found the way to open the documents in not full screen. I tried > via the Open Document Info and the Set Page Action. (As the > documents are set up to open with the bookmarks, the bookmarks > appear in a separate window in the full screen). > Any idea will be welcomed? I am using acrobat 4.0 Evelyne: Open the document in Acrobat 4 (not Reader). Then go into DOCUMENT INFO > OPEN. Make your selections, then SAVE AS with a new file name. This should do the trick. r|i|c|h _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 30-Jul-1999 15:53:35-GMT,4279;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA01784 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 09:53:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA32375; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 10:49:22 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 30 Jul 1999 10:46:45 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA31968; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 10:46:42 -0500 Message-Id: <199907301546.IAA39997@mail.inficad.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 08:46:38 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF file names From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="MS_Mac_OE_3016169199_162181_MIME_Part" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > THIS MESSAGE IS IN MIME FORMAT. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --MS_Mac_OE_3016169199_162181_MIME_Part Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Hi all. I am using Word 97 on a Win 95 machine with Acrobat 4. When converting a Word file whose name, for example, is "testfile.doc" using Distiller 4 (I've tried both screen optimized and print optimized settings), the resulting PDF file name appears to have come straight out of the Word title bar: "Microsoft Word - testfile.pdf". Is there any way I can prevent Distiller from adding the extra prefix to the file name? In thinking about having our customers send PDF files created with Acrobat 4, we must be assured that file naming conventions are not jeopardized. Mike: You can lose the Word stuff by going into Word OPTIONS > SAVE and deleting the standard file name. You can also change the name at will when it asks you for the file name. The first step is easier in the long run. r|i|c|h P.S. Speaking of losing things...many of us would be very grateful if posters and respondents to these lists would use plain format e-mail, rather than html. TIA. --MS_Mac_OE_3016169199_162181_MIME_Part Content-type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Re: [PDF] PDF file names
Hi all.  I am using Word 97 on a Win 95= machine with Acrobat 4.  When converting a Word file whose name, for e= xample, is "testfile.doc" using Distiller 4 (I've tried both scree= n optimized and print optimized settings), the resulting PDF file name appea= rs to have come straight out of the Word title bar: "Microsoft Word - t= estfile.pdf".  Is there any way I can prevent Distiller from addin= g the extra prefix to the file name?  In thinking about having our cust= omers send PDF files created with Acrobat 4, we must be assured that file na= ming conventions are not jeopardized.
 

Mike:

You can lose the Word stuff by going into Word OPTIONS > SAVE and deleti= ng the standard file name.

You can also change the name at will when it asks you for the file name. Th= e first step is easier in the long run.

r|i|c|h

P.S. Speaking of losing things...many of us would be very grateful if poste= rs and respondents to these lists would use plain format e-mail, rather than= html. TIA. --MS_Mac_OE_3016169199_162181_MIME_Part-- _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 30-Jul-1999 15:55:02-GMT,2354;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA01935 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 09:55:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA32709; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 10:51:41 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 30 Jul 1999 10:49:09 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA32325; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 10:49:06 -0500 Message-ID: <19990730155229.4877.rocketmail@web805.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 08:52:29 -0700 (PDT) From: John Posada Subject: [PDF] Automatic bookmarks from Word file To: PDF List , Techwriter List MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi, guys. I've recently converted my document set from my authoring version; Frame, to my deliverable version; Word. (I converted using mif2rtf.) While producing the documentation in Frame, I submitted all drafts as PDF with bookmarks. Now that I'm converted over to Word and am submitting final proofs in PDF, I find that I've lost the ability to automatically generate PDF bookmarks. Aside from recreating them in Exchange one by one, how do I automatically generate the bookmarks based on styles in Word the way I could with Frame? Thanks === John Posada Western Union International (w) jposada@westernunion.com (p) john@tdandw.com _____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 30-Jul-1999 16:12:58-GMT,2410;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA02482 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 10:12:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA02493; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 11:09:37 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 30 Jul 1999 11:06:52 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA02024; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 11:06:50 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990730121056.008dd750@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 12:10:56 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] Acrobat 4.0 without Reader causing problems in EDMS In-Reply-To: References: <76F37B2B6013D21184E400A02461E5AF014C9AE7@msexchg1.wcnoc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > >You should be able to reconfigure the EDMS to launch whichever Acrobat >viewer is associated with PDF files. There are a number of Windows API >functions for doing this, including "ShellExecute" (and FindExecutable, or >something like that). If you need more info, let us know. > For that matter, ShellExecute("MyFile.PDF") would launch whatever app/version is registered as owning PDFs and load MyFile.PDF in one swell foop, wouldn't it? Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 30-Jul-1999 16:19:16-GMT,2225;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA02648 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 10:19:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA03636; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 11:15:36 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 30 Jul 1999 11:12:56 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA03169; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 11:12:51 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 11:12:45 -0500 From: "Sarah Hanson" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Creating PDF Files Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id LAA03149 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ We have been creating a few PDF files using PDF Writer and it works fine for us, but I'm having problems with users complaining that PDF files are too fuzzy. Is there a way to change the resolution or control how fuzzy the documents look? I also have been reading other messages that are talking about creating PDF files with Distiller, is there a difference between using Writer and Distiller? We are saving Excel and Word documents as PDF files and rarely do they contain images. Any ideas? This beginner would appreciate any HELP!!!! Thanks, Sarah Hanson shans@landolakes.com _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 30-Jul-1999 16:29:26-GMT,2854;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA02937 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 10:29:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA05469; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 11:26:10 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 30 Jul 1999 11:23:21 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA04724; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 11:23:20 -0500 Message-ID: <006801bedaa7$e491b320$466564c8@MAbrahamson> From: "Michael Abrahamson" To: References: <199907301546.IAA39997@mail.inficad.com> Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF file names Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 12:23:43 -0400 Organization: Liturgical Publications MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Re: [PDF] PDF file names>You can lose the Word stuff by going into Word OPTIONS > SAVE and >deleting the standard file name. Looking in the Save tab under Options does not give any item such as "standard file name" for me to delete. There is only the option to select what format to save Word documents as. This doesn't explain why Distiller is mirroring the Word title bar for the resultant PDF file name. I have been told in the past that Distiller uses the registry settings to determine the PDF's file name but I can't see why it would add "Microsoft Word - " to any file I try to convert to PDF. >You can also change the name at will when it asks you for the file name. The >first step is easier in the long run. If possible, I would like to automate the creation process as much as possible so as to limit our customers' confusion and interaction during the conversion process. I know all programs have their glitches here and there, but sometimes I am baffled by certain "bugs" that seem just plain silly. Has anyone else experienced this problem yet? Mike _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 30-Jul-1999 16:30:50-GMT,1836;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA02960 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 10:30:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA05551; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 11:27:06 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 30 Jul 1999 11:24:41 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA05094; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 11:24:40 -0500 Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 09:24:36 -0700 (PDT) From: George Johnson To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Acrobat 4.0 without Reader causing problems in EDMS In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19990730121056.008dd750@pop.iglou.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > For that matter, ShellExecute("MyFile.PDF") would launch whatever > app/version is registered as owning PDFs and load MyFile.PDF in one swell > foop, wouldn't it? Yes, that's the idea I had in mind, but didn't communicate. _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 30-Jul-1999 16:31:17-GMT,2255;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA02979 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 10:31:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA05605; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 11:27:43 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 30 Jul 1999 11:25:16 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA05277; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 11:25:15 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.5 Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 12:19:08 -0400 From: "Jeff Sauber" To: Subject: [PDF] e-mail compression, Overall Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id LAA05269 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I often find myself having to e-mail PDF proofs (or bunches of 'em) to various clients. As such, I have had to navigate through the bewildering variety of e-mail platform and compression mis-compatibilites (which I couldn't have done without the help of you guys on this list, thanks again!). My question is this: is there an information source that clearly covers those different systems (compression & encoding), that would give me a more complete overview? If it includes the effects on PDF files, so much the better, but that might be asking for too much. Thanks in advance, Jeff Sauber S&S Adv. _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 30-Jul-1999 16:44:15-GMT,1967;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA03344 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 10:44:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA07088; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 11:41:23 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 30 Jul 1999 11:38:13 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA06733; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 11:38:10 -0500 Message-ID: <37A1D442.4286298@accglobal.net> Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 12:35:14 -0400 From: Dunc Petrie X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (Win98; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] error message Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I hope that I have posted correctly. If not, my apologies.... I have pdf file that refuses to open. The error message states that the file can't be opened since it does not start with "%pdf." I assume that this must be part of the file header. I can use a hex editor; can anyone provide the location and the exact string to insert. I can get the file transmitted again; however, I would like to know for future use how to repair it. _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 30-Jul-1999 16:49:00-GMT,2887;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA03471 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 10:48:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA07688; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 11:46:15 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 30 Jul 1999 11:43:47 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA07381; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 11:43:46 -0500 Message-ID: <76F37B2B6013D21184E400A02461E5AF014C9AE9@msexchg1.wcnoc.com> From: Decker Gary E To: "'PDF Mailing List'" Subject: Re: [PDF] Acrobat 4.0 without Reader causing problems in EDMS Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 11:43:34 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I realize that most applications would rely on the registry file associations to determine the proper application to launch a file, but for some reason, with this EDMS (Identitech FYI, version 2.5.5, bundled by Indus into it's Curator product), which was designed to operate in a 16-bit Windows environment, you associate file extensions with an application name, and the EDMS takes over launching the documents, seemingly oblivious to the operating system. The application name is the name of the executable file used to open the document. So, in the case of pdf., it is associated to an application called ACRORD32. This will work for Acrobat 3.0 or 4.0 Reader (the 2.0 Reader was called ACROREAD.EXE, I believe). I'm probably the only person in a company of over 1,000 people that doesn't have the Acrobat Reader installed on my PC. Lucky me. ---------- >Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 08:15:17 -0700 (PDT) >From: George Johnson >Subject: Re: [PDF] Acrobat 4.0 without Reader causing problems in EDMS > >You should be able to reconfigure the EDMS to launch whichever Acrobat >viewer is associated with PDF files. There are a number of Windows API >functions for doing this, including "ShellExecute" (and FindExecutable, or >something like that). If you need more info, let us know. _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 30-Jul-1999 17:05:47-GMT,3100;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA03979 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 11:05:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA10213; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 12:02:31 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 30 Jul 1999 11:59:58 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA09689; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 11:59:54 -0500 Message-Id: <199907301659.JAA56296@mail.inficad.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 09:59:46 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF file names From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >> Re: [PDF] PDF file names>You can lose the Word stuff by going into Word >> OPTIONS > SAVE and >deleting the standard file name. > > Looking in the Save tab under Options does not give any item such as > "standard file name" for me to delete. There is only the option to select > what format to save Word documents as. This doesn't explain why Distiller > is mirroring the Word title bar for the resultant PDF file name. I have > been told in the past that Distiller uses the registry settings to determine > the PDF's file name but I can't see why it would add "Microsoft Word - " to > any file I try to convert to PDF. > >>You can also change the name at will when it asks you for the file name. >> The >first step is easier in the long run. > > If possible, I would like to automate the creation process as much as > possible so as to limit our customers' confusion and interaction during the > conversion process. I know all programs have their glitches here and there, > but sometimes I am baffled by certain "bugs" that seem just plain silly. > Has anyone else experienced this problem yet? > > Mike That was a bad piece of advice, sorry. You can't change the name where I thought you could. You can just select different things from a pop-up menu. This one's got me stumped. I'm using a new PC, with Office 97, and Acrobat 4. I installed 4 over Office. I cannot get my machine to do this, no matter how I try to make a PDF from Word. Maybe someone else out in cyberspace has a clue. r|i|c|h _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 30-Jul-1999 17:05:52-GMT,2420;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA03986 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 11:05:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA09953; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 12:01:21 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 30 Jul 1999 11:58:13 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA09476; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 11:58:08 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] error message Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 17:57:21 +0100 Message-ID: <000101bedaac$98013a80$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <37A1D442.4286298@accglobal.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > I have pdf file that refuses to open. The error message > states that the > file can't be opened since it does not start with "%pdf." I > assume that > this must be part of the file header. The file must simply start with a line giving %PDF-n.n where n.n is the version number e.g. 1.2, 1.3. > > I can use a hex editor; can anyone provide the location and the exact > string to insert. Frankly, if that is missing, who knows what else is gone. The chance of recovery is poor. In fact, there's a good chance that the file isn't a PDF at all. One exception: if the file is in MacBinary format, it will have a 128 byte prefix in front of the %PDF- which you can remove. Aandi _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 30-Jul-1999 17:20:57-GMT,1887;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA04451 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 11:20:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA12795; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 12:17:52 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 30 Jul 1999 12:15:22 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA12476; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 12:15:21 -0500 Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 10:15:14 -0700 (PDT) From: George Johnson To: "'PDF Mailing List'" Subject: Re: [PDF] Acrobat 4.0 without Reader causing problems in EDMS In-Reply-To: <76F37B2B6013D21184E400A02461E5AF014C9AE9@msexchg1.wcnoc.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I see, I thought you had control of the source code. Don't worry about installing Reader. If it is set as the default PDF viewer, it is easy enough to change it back with Windows Explorer (View -> Options... -> File Types -> Edit..." etc. _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 30-Jul-1999 17:22:41-GMT,2020;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA04498 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 11:22:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA13010; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 12:20:03 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 30 Jul 1999 12:17:31 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA12738; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 12:17:28 -0500 Message-ID: <009201bedaaf$672718a0$466564c8@MAbrahamson> From: "Michael Abrahamson" To: References: <199907301659.JAA56296@mail.inficad.com> Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF file names Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 13:17:29 -0400 Organization: Liturgical Publications MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Thanks for your help, Rich. I appreciate your effort and you have been very helpful in the past with many of my questions. I'm glad to hear that you're not able to experience the same problem for your sake. It's a strange one. :) Mike _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 30-Jul-1999 17:28:48-GMT,3871;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA04680 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 11:28:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA13824; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 12:25:57 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 30 Jul 1999 12:23:29 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA13554; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 12:23:25 -0500 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19990730172329.0097bf34@env-sol.com> X-Sender: thiersch@env-sol.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 10:23:29 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Tom Thiersch Subject: Re: [PDF] e-mail compression, Overall Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Jeff, No matter what options you use when creating the PDF, none of them matters when it comes to the e-mail issue. Of course, if file SIZE is the problem, because of externally imposed constraints on your e-mails, that's a problem that will affect all files you send, not just PDFs, so you may be better off using FTP. After all, that's what FTP was created for, and e-mail is a poor substitute. You and your e-mails' recipients (and everything in-between) MUST deal with PDFs as binary data files; no translation, conversion, or any other kind of messing with the content by any of the e-mail programs/servers/forwarders is allowable. Conversely, there other possible incompatibilities, in the PDFs themselves, that are not at all related to the e-mail issue. In other words, even if you send/receive the file correctly, it may not be readable by the recipient if they are using a down-level version of Acrobat. In this case, "down-level" simply refers to the level of PDF that you choose to create. By now, it's reasonably safe to assume that everyone has Acrobat Reader 3.0 or better; if they don't, they really ought to upgrade (or have a *very* good reason for not having done so already). So, creating your PDFs for Acrobat 3 compatibility (see Distiller options) will be a good choice, unless you have a definite need for an Acrobat 4-only feature. If the latter is the case, then you're stuck with telling everyone to whom you send PDFs that they must install Acrobat 4 Reader. Bottom line: Keep the e-mail issue and the PDF version/options issue separate in your mind; neither should have any effect on the other. Tom Thiersch At 12:19 PM 7/30/99 -0400, you wrote: >I often find myself having to e-mail PDF proofs (or bunches of 'em) to various clients. As such, I have had to navigate through the bewildering variety of e-mail platform and compression mis-compatibilites (which I couldn't have done without the help of you guys on this list, thanks again!). My question is this: is there an information source that clearly covers those different systems (compression & encoding), that would give me a more complete overview? If it includes the effects on PDF files, so much the better, but that might be asking for too much. > >Thanks in advance, >Jeff Sauber >S&S Adv. _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 30-Jul-1999 17:38:23-GMT,4437;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA04940 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 11:38:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA14898; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 12:34:06 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 30 Jul 1999 12:31:22 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA14487; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 12:31:21 -0500 Message-ID: <37A1E211.414AE687@scenicsoft.com> Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 10:34:09 -0700 From: sbailey X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF file names References: <199907301659.JAA56296@mail.inficad.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ My observation has been that Word appends "Microsoft Word - " to actual file name so that the spool file would be "Microsoft Word - [file name here]" You can observe this opening the printer's queue, then printing from Word. This occurs when printing to any printer, not just to the Acrobat Distiller print driver. When printing from Word via PDFMaker, the actual file name is preserved. If you select the "Print to File" option in Word, or set the driver to print to the File port, you will be prompted to name the PostScript file. I do not know of any way, within Word, to change this behavior. If someone does, I'd love to know. I haven't had time to look into this myself. Samantha Rich Sprague wrote: > > The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > > >> Re: [PDF] PDF file names>You can lose the Word stuff by going into Word > >> OPTIONS > SAVE and >deleting the standard file name. > > > > Looking in the Save tab under Options does not give any item such as > > "standard file name" for me to delete. There is only the option to select > > what format to save Word documents as. This doesn't explain why Distiller > > is mirroring the Word title bar for the resultant PDF file name. I have > > been told in the past that Distiller uses the registry settings to determine > > the PDF's file name but I can't see why it would add "Microsoft Word - " to > > any file I try to convert to PDF. > > > >>You can also change the name at will when it asks you for the file name. > >> The >first step is easier in the long run. > > > > If possible, I would like to automate the creation process as much as > > possible so as to limit our customers' confusion and interaction during the > > conversion process. I know all programs have their glitches here and there, > > but sometimes I am baffled by certain "bugs" that seem just plain silly. > > Has anyone else experienced this problem yet? > > > > Mike > > That was a bad piece of advice, sorry. You can't change the name where I > thought you could. You can just select different things from a pop-up menu. > > This one's got me stumped. I'm using a new PC, with Office 97, and Acrobat > 4. I installed 4 over Office. > > I cannot get my machine to do this, no matter how I try to make a PDF from > Word. Maybe someone else out in cyberspace has a clue. > > r|i|c|h > _ > ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ > <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> > <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> > ___________________________________________________________ -- ___________________________________________ Samantha M. Bailey | Software Test Engineer 425.355.6655 | http://www.scenicsoft.com _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 30-Jul-1999 18:10:28-GMT,1986;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA05821 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 12:10:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA19813; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 13:04:52 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 30 Jul 1999 13:00:28 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA18620; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 13:00:24 -0500 Message-ID: <024301bedab5$56550220$4d99efc2@screentalk> From: "Eric Lilleor" To: Subject: [PDF] Scanning Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 19:48:56 +0200 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Can somebody please help me? I'm very new to PDF and I have a manuscript (about 150 pages) I would like to turn into a PDF file. I'm a Mac user (PowerPC 8200/120) ... and use Acrobat Exchange 3.01. How do I scan it (apart from having a scanner hocked up ;-) into Exchange? Do I need some kind of plug-ins? The file should not be larger than 250k-280k. Any help would be highly appreciated. Eric Lilleor Denmark _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 30-Jul-1999 18:28:02-GMT,2303;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA06332 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 12:28:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA24543; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 13:23:07 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 30 Jul 1999 13:19:56 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA23642; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 13:19:54 -0500 Message-Id: <199907301819.LAA75031@mail.inficad.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 11:19:50 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Scanning From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > Can somebody please help me? I'm very new to PDF and I have a > manuscript (about 150 pages) I would like to turn into a PDF > file. > > I'm a Mac user (PowerPC 8200/120) ... and use Acrobat Exchange > 3.01. > > How do I scan it (apart from having a scanner hocked up ;-) into > Exchange? Do I need some kind of plug-ins? > > The file should not be larger than 250k-280k. > > Any help would be highly appreciated. > > Eric Lilleor Eric: You open Exchange, go into FILE > SCAN, select your scanner, and scan away. When you get done scanning, you can go into DOCUMENT > CAPTURE, which uses OCR to turn the bitmap images into searchable text. You should scan at a bare minimum 200 dpi, 300 would be better. r|i|c|h _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 30-Jul-1999 18:48:50-GMT,3228;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA06884 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 12:48:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA28989; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 13:45:10 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 30 Jul 1999 13:42:30 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA28686; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 13:42:28 -0500 From: "Ken Silver" To: Subject: [PDF] Error messages Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 06:42:17 +1200 Message-ID: <00a401bedabb$3fc57fc0$c6304ed1@ksilver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 In-Reply-To: <199907301454.HAA28620@mail.inficad.com> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I am getting one or all of these error messages from people who opened my PDF files in Acrobat Reader (3 or 4 - no difference). "There was an error processing a page. Too few operands." "There was a problem reading this page. Error (114)" "There were several parsing errors on this page." On each occasion, the page will either be blank or partially blank. When I go back and examine my PDF files, made on Windows Pagemaker 6.5 and Distiller, they are perfect. The problem must come when they are uploaded to my site via Claris HomePage. I have also tried another ftp program, with no different results. I also get these results on Macintosh, using the Macintosh versions of the same programs, and also whether I send the files as attachments in both cases. (!) I have also searched the postings on the Acrobat Reader forum, but there doesn't seem to be any indication of this problem. Does anyone have any ideas?... this has been an ongoing problem with a growing percentage of my files for quite some time now, and I would like to get it resolved for good! Ken Silver The "How-To" Guru! ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Digital Book Author "How To Make $100,000 A Year Part-Time Creating How-To Manuals At Home." Read the first chapter and contents FREE! Visit: http://www.ksilver.com Member of the Self Publishing Association of New Zealand Join me on the Ken Silver Online Forum: http://network54.com/Forum/11488 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 30-Jul-1999 18:56:31-GMT,2415;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA07107 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 12:56:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA29816; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 13:52:04 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 30 Jul 1999 13:49:24 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA29366; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 13:49:23 -0500 Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.19990730112630.00a60420@rudy.corp.adobe.com> X-Sender: mcshur@rudy.corp.adobe.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 11:46:49 -0700 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steven McShurley Subject: [PDF] Non-PostScript printing In-Reply-To: <199907301819.LAA75031@mail.inficad.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ We have been receiving anecdotal reports of people having difficulty printing from Windows Acrobat 4.0 to non-PostScript devices. We have had complaints about some HP devices in particular. We are in search of specific problem reports so we can debug these problems. If you have encountered this type of problem, and it is reproducible, we are interested in hearing from you. Please email the description of your problem with your system configuration, printer and driver version and settings, and any test files to: stoutbug@adobe.com Please include the words "Non-PostScript Printing" in the title so we can easily identify the report. Thank you for your assistance, Steven McShurley Director Acrobat Quality Engineering Adobe Systems Incorporated _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 30-Jul-1999 19:20:23-GMT,2713;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA07763 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 13:20:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA00073; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 14:16:08 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 30 Jul 1999 14:13:18 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA32495; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 14:13:10 -0500 Message-Id: <199907301913.OAA32437@everglades.binc.net> Date: 30 Jul 99 15:12:38 -0400 From: Justin Blocksom Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF file names To: pdf X-Mailer: QuickMail Pro 1.5.2 (Mac) X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-Ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id OAA32464 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Reply to: Re: [PDF] PDF file names >My observation has been that Word appends "Microsoft Word - " to actual >file name so that the spool file would be "Microsoft Word - [file name >here]" > >This occurs when printing to any printer, not just to the Acrobat >Distiller print driver. > >I do not know of any way, within Word, to change this behavior. If >someone does, I'd love to know. I haven't had time to look into this >myself. > >Samantha Ever had that feeling like there's been a huge breakthrough and then you find out it's nothing? I hate this Microsoft thing and I thought there was a solution to this (length of filenames is important to the devices and hardware that I use the resulting ripped files at). The only solution I know of is a three step process. 1) write the file to disk 2) change the name 3) then put it into a watched folder by the printer. (a major pain) Any shortcuts/onetime hacks at Microsoft apps would be appreciated. Justin Blocksom Digital Production Group Printing & Publications Corp. jblocksom@printandpub.com _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 30-Jul-1999 19:29:38-GMT,2795;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA07999 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 13:29:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA01135; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 14:25:18 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 30 Jul 1999 14:22:50 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA00849; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 14:22:49 -0500 Message-Id: <199907301922.MAA21506@wren.prod.itd.earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 12:23:02 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Scanning From: "C. Scott Miller" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > Can somebody please help me? I'm very new to PDF and I have a > manuscript (about 150 pages) I would like to turn into a PDF > file. General How To instructions are available at http://www.performancegraphics.com/Pages/compcapt.html. 150 pages can be very tedious with a flatbed scanner, so you might look at having a Imaging service bureau do it. > I'm a Mac user (PowerPC 8200/120) ... and use Acrobat Exchange > 3.01. > > How do I scan it (apart from having a scanner hocked up ;-) into > Exchange? Do I need some kind of plug-ins? I generally recommend 200dpi grayscale scans into Photoshop and then save these as PDFs to be opened in Exchange (rather than importing TIF files directly into Exchange). Also, you need plenty of RAM - over 64Mb allocated to Exchange before you get started. > The file should not be larger than 250k-280k. Each page should end up about 20-35K unless you have alot of graphics (bitmaps within the PDF document that cannot be converted to text only). > Any help would be highly appreciated. -- HTH, C. Scott Miller PDF R_e_s_e_a_r_c_h__C_o_m_p_a_n_i_o_n A Designer's Guide to Adobe's Portable Document Format http://www.performancegraphics.com _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 30-Jul-1999 19:30:04-GMT,1588;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA08005 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 13:30:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA01260; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 14:26:24 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 30 Jul 1999 14:23:56 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA00983; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 14:23:53 -0500 From: Joesbbq@aol.com Message-ID: <8625fd7.24d3559c@aol.com> Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 15:23:08 EDT Subject: Re: [PDF] Scanning To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 21 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ the files created scanning that way are huge... can they be compressed in any way ? _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 30-Jul-1999 19:38:04-GMT,2402;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA08223 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 13:38:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA02226; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 14:34:01 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 30 Jul 1999 14:31:31 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA01842; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 14:31:30 -0500 Message-Id: <199907301907.MAA13239@wren.prod.itd.earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 12:07:52 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Error messages From: "C. Scott Miller" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > The problem must come when they are uploaded to my site via Claris > HomePage. I have also tried another ftp program, with no different > results. I also get these results on Macintosh, using the Macintosh > versions of the same programs, and also whether I send the files as > attachments in both cases. If you suspect Claris HomePage, then don't use it. I create my webpages in CHP but upload them using Fetch (Mac version 3.0.3) which is free and available through http://www.download.com/. I think the key to your problem is that you may be uploading in TEXT mode. You need to upload your files in RAW DATA mode (using Fetch). -- HTH, C. Scott Miller PDF R_e_s_e_a_r_c_h__C_o_m_p_a_n_i_o_n A Designer's Guide to Adobe's Portable Document Format http://www.performancegraphics.com _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 30-Jul-1999 19:45:12-GMT,2269;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA08431 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 13:45:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA02924; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 14:41:07 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 30 Jul 1999 14:38:36 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA02615; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 14:38:34 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990730154241.007c2ac0@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 15:42:41 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF file names In-Reply-To: <006801bedaa7$e491b320$466564c8@MAbrahamson> References: <199907301546.IAA39997@mail.inficad.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >> I have >been told in the past that Distiller uses the registry settings to determine >the PDF's file name but I can't see why it would add "Microsoft Word - " to >any file I try to convert to PDF. > Generate a PS file from Word and look at the header comments. ISTR that Word plops its little advertisment in there every time, and that's where I think Distiller's getting it from. Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 30-Jul-1999 19:47:26-GMT,2443;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA08488 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 13:47:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA03345; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 14:43:53 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 30 Jul 1999 14:41:23 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA02995; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 14:41:14 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990730154518.007bfc10@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 15:45:18 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] error message In-Reply-To: <37A1D442.4286298@accglobal.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >I have pdf file that refuses to open. The error message states that the >file can't be opened since it does not start with "%pdf." I assume that >this must be part of the file header. > >I can use a hex editor; can anyone provide the location and the exact >string to insert. > Simply inserting the string isn't likely to fix the problem if the file's corrupted anyhow. Did you by any chance receive this from a Mac user, and are you on a PC? If so, make a copy of the file, have a look at it in your editor. If the 129th byte or so begins the %pdf string, remove everything up to that point and save. See if that helps. Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 30-Jul-1999 19:52:25-GMT,2489;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA08667 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 13:52:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA04013; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 14:48:26 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 30 Jul 1999 14:45:49 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA03616; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 14:45:45 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990730154952.008f0550@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 15:49:52 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] Non-PostScript printing In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.58.19990730112630.00a60420@rudy.corp.adobe.com> References: <199907301819.LAA75031@mail.inficad.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >We have been receiving anecdotal reports of people having difficulty >printing from Windows Acrobat 4.0 to non-PostScript devices. We have had >complaints about some HP devices in particular. > >We are in search of specific problem reports so we can debug these >problems. If you have encountered this type of problem, and it is I haven't myself, but have been trying to help a fellow solve something that sounds about like this on the Acrobat section of the Adobe forum on Compuserve. Your most excellent man John Cornicello should be able to forward you the relevant messages. Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 30-Jul-1999 20:06:16-GMT,2064;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA09056 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 14:06:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA05524; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 15:00:04 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 30 Jul 1999 14:57:23 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA05138; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 14:57:08 -0500 From: "Aandi Inston" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Scanning Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 20:56:49 +0100 Message-ID: <000201bedac5$aa696940$510b83c1@dan.quite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <8625fd7.24d3559c@aol.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > the files created scanning that way are huge... can they be > compressed in any way ? In general, scan to Exchange IF AND ONLY IF the pages (a) are suitable for Capture (good quality originals, mostly text) and (b) you INTEND to run Capture. Scanning directly without Capture will make very large files; just avoid that path. Aandi _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 30-Jul-1999 20:54:51-GMT,3103;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA10387 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 14:54:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA11015; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 15:49:44 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 30 Jul 1999 15:45:37 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA10650; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 15:45:36 -0500 From: John.E.Stuurwold@am.pnu.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 16:43:06 -0400 Message-Id: <00145DB7.C22094@am.pnu.com> Subject: RE: [PDF] Acrobat 4.0 without Reader causing problems in EDM To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: cc:Mail note part Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > I know that with Acrobat 3.0, it was possible to have both Acrobat and > the Reader installed on the same PC, and I presume (cringe) that the > same is true of 4.0. However, if I do so, I'm thinking that the install > will cause my OS (Windows NT 4.0 SP 3) to associate the Reader as the > default application for launching PDF files, and I don't want that. How > can I install the Reader and still have Acrobat as my default > application for launching PDF files otherwise (outside of the EDMS)? I > don't really want to have to reinstall Acrobat 4.0 again. In my experience (Win95 and WinNT4), the Acrobat Reader 4.0 installation is pretty benign. If a version of Acrobat already exists, Reader 4.0 does not become the default PDF viewer: no associations change. Reader 4.0 can coexist peacefully with either v3.0x or v4.0. I've tried several combinations. I left Reader 3.02 on a system on which I installed all of Acrobat 4, including the Reader. Acrobat 4 (AcroEx32.exe) became the app associated with PDF, in that case. I have other systems on which I've added Reader 4 to existing Acrobat 3.0x installations. Reader 3.02 or Exchange 3.01 remained associated with PDF. I also just finished adding the new Reader 4 with Search to a system with the rest of Acrobat 4 already installed. Acrobat 4 (AcroEx32.exe) remained associated with PDF. So, unless anyone else has had other results, I'd say you could go ahead and add Reader 4 to your PCs. Then just tell your EDMS what directory you put AcroRd32.exe in. --John _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 30-Jul-1999 21:02:05-GMT,8047;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA10565 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 15:02:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA11938; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 15:57:59 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 30 Jul 1999 15:55:23 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA11668; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 15:55:21 -0500 Message-ID: <1E65AEBEE20CD311AB4E00A0C9EAD23511006C@WIEXCH01> From: "Roller, Sylvia" To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] Acrobat 4.0 without Reader causing problems in EDM Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 16:55:15 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01BEDACD.EF0F8478" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01BEDACD.EF0F8478 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Mine doesn't -----Original Message----- From: John.E.Stuurwold@am.pnu.com [mailto:John.E.Stuurwold@am.pnu.com] Sent: Friday, July 30, 1999 4:43 PM To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: RE: [PDF] Acrobat 4.0 without Reader causing problems in EDM The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > I know that with Acrobat 3.0, it was possible to have both Acrobat and > the Reader installed on the same PC, and I presume (cringe) that the > same is true of 4.0. However, if I do so, I'm thinking that the install > will cause my OS (Windows NT 4.0 SP 3) to associate the Reader as the > default application for launching PDF files, and I don't want that. How > can I install the Reader and still have Acrobat as my default > application for launching PDF files otherwise (outside of the EDMS)? I > don't really want to have to reinstall Acrobat 4.0 again. In my experience (Win95 and WinNT4), the Acrobat Reader 4.0 installation is pretty benign. If a version of Acrobat already exists, Reader 4.0 does not become the default PDF viewer: no associations change. Reader 4.0 can coexist peacefully with either v3.0x or v4.0. I've tried several combinations. I left Reader 3.02 on a system on which I installed all of Acrobat 4, including the Reader. Acrobat 4 (AcroEx32.exe) became the app associated with PDF, in that case. I have other systems on which I've added Reader 4 to existing Acrobat 3.0x installations. Reader 3.02 or Exchange 3.01 remained associated with PDF. I also just finished adding the new Reader 4 with Search to a system with the rest of Acrobat 4 already installed. Acrobat 4 (AcroEx32.exe) remained associated with PDF. So, unless anyone else has had other results, I'd say you could go ahead and add Reader 4 to your PCs. Then just tell your EDMS what directory you put AcroRd32.exe in. --John _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ ------_=_NextPart_001_01BEDACD.EF0F8478 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: [PDF] Acrobat 4.0 without Reader causing problems in = EDM

Mine doesn't

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From: John.E.Stuurwold@am.pnu.com [mailto:John.E.Stuurwold@am.p= nu.com]
Sent: Friday, July 30, 1999 4:43 PM
To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com
Subject: RE: [PDF] Acrobat 4.0 without Reader = causing problems in EDM



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_______________________________________________________________= ___

> I know that with Acrobat 3.0, it was possible to = have both Acrobat and
> the Reader installed on the same PC, and I = presume (cringe) that the
> same is true of 4.0.  However, if I do so, = I'm thinking that the install
> will cause my OS (Windows NT 4.0 SP 3) to = associate the Reader as the
> default application for launching PDF files, = and I don't want that.  How
> can I install the Reader and still have Acrobat = as my default
> application for launching PDF files otherwise = (outside of the EDMS)?  I
> don't really want to have to reinstall Acrobat = 4.0 again.

In my experience (Win95 and WinNT4), the Acrobat = Reader 4.0 installation is
pretty benign. If a version of Acrobat already = exists, Reader 4.0 does not
become the default PDF viewer: no associations = change. Reader 4.0 can
coexist peacefully with either v3.0x or v4.0. I've = tried several
combinations. I left Reader 3.02 on a system on = which I installed all of
Acrobat 4, including the Reader. Acrobat 4 = (AcroEx32.exe) became the app
associated with PDF, in that case. I have other = systems on which I've added
Reader 4 to existing Acrobat 3.0x installations. = Reader 3.02 or Exchange
3.01 remained associated with PDF. I also just = finished adding the new
Reader 4 with Search to a system with the rest of = Acrobat 4 already
installed. Acrobat 4 (AcroEx32.exe) remained = associated with PDF.

So, unless anyone else has had other results, I'd say = you could go ahead and
add Reader 4 to your PCs. Then just tell your EDMS = what directory you put
AcroRd32.exe in.

--John
 
_
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------_=_NextPart_001_01BEDACD.EF0F8478-- _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 30-Jul-1999 21:07:51-GMT,2689;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA10712 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 15:07:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA12714; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 16:03:41 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 30 Jul 1999 16:01:09 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA12258; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 16:01:06 -0500 Message-Id: <199907302101.QAA12215@everglades.binc.net> Date: 30 Jul 99 16:58:43 -0400 From: Justin Blocksom Subject: Re: Re(2): [PDF] Distributing files for Acrobat 3.0 To: pdf X-Mailer: QuickMail Pro 1.5.2 (Mac) X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-Ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id QAA12251 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Reply to: Re: Re(2): [PDF] Distributing files for Acrobat 3.0 >>>Once the file is created in Distiller 4 with 3x compatibility, it doesn't >>>matter whether you use Exchange 3x or Acrobat 4 to open it and/or make >>>further changes to the file. >> >> There is a current exception to that statement. You cannot use embed and >> subset TrueType fonts on the Macintosh and get compatibility with Acrobat >> 3. If you do so, when you open in up in Acrobat 3.0x or Reader 3.0x, >> you'll get a message to the effect that "certain characters may not >> display or print correct". And they do not...when printed, the TrueType >> text will turn into garbage. >> >> I passed this on as a bug report to Adobe and it was confirmed by an Adobe >> QA technician. Still not fixed. So, process of elimination says that if that same file is opened in Acrobat 4, the bug won't appear and all will be well, correct? Justin Blocksom Digital Production Group Printing & Publications Corp. jblocksom@printandpub.com _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 30-Jul-1999 21:22:54-GMT,1974;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA11091 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 15:22:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA14203; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 16:19:40 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 30 Jul 1999 16:17:00 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA13909; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 16:16:56 -0500 Message-id: Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 13:23:48 +0100 Subject: Re(2): Re(2): [PDF] Distributing files for Acrobat 3.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Cc: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: werner@rapidgraphics.com (Steve Werner) Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ pdf@lists.pdfzone.com writes: >So, process of elimination says that if that same file is opened in >Acrobat 4, >the bug won't appear and all will be well, correct? Correct. It'll appear and print fine from Acrobat 4. And if you need to embed and subset TrueType fonts on the Mac so you can open in either Acrobat 3 or 4, you need to distill in Distiller 3.0x or they'll only be readable in Acrobat 4. Best, ^Steve^ Steve Werner Training Manager Rapid Graphics San Francisco, CA _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 30-Jul-1999 21:23:17-GMT,2438;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA11104 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 15:23:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA14278; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 16:20:39 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 30 Jul 1999 16:18:15 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA14085; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 16:18:14 -0500 Message-Id: <199907302118.OAA12545@mail.inficad.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 14:18:07 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF file names From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >> I have >> been told in the past that Distiller uses the registry settings to determine >> the PDF's file name but I can't see why it would add "Microsoft Word - " to >> any file I try to convert to PDF. >> > > Generate a PS file from Word and look at the header comments. ISTR that > Word plops its little advertisment in there every time, and that's where I > think Distiller's getting it from. I hate to wave a flag, but no matter how hard I try, I can't get this *feature* to work. PC = Office 97 with Acrobat 4. PDF Maker to PDF Writer or Distiller Printer, or Print to Distiller Printer. In every case I am allowed to pick a file name that does not include the Microsoft advertisement. Mac = O/S 8.6, Word 6.01, Acrobat 4. Same result. Maybe Microsoft changed something in one of the burns of Office and didn't tell anyone. r|i|c|h _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 30-Jul-1999 21:53:40-GMT,1894;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA11854 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 15:53:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA17519; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 16:50:11 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 30 Jul 1999 16:47:22 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA17144; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 16:47:14 -0500 Message-ID: <37A21E20.DE2B08DD@scenicsoft.com> Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 14:50:24 -0700 From: sbailey X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF file names References: <199907302118.OAA12545@mail.inficad.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ oh, now they wouldn't do anything like that! . > Maybe Microsoft changed something in one of the burns of Office and didn't > tell anyone. > > r|i|c|h ___________________________________________ Samantha M. Bailey | Software Test Engineer 425.355.6655 | http://www.scenicsoft.com _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 30-Jul-1999 21:54:22-GMT,5851;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA11878 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 15:54:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA17687; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 16:51:40 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 30 Jul 1999 16:49:15 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA17369; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 16:49:13 -0500 Message-Id: <199907302143.RAA133248@pima.gate.net> From: "John Eric Burg" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] CorelDRAW 9 and "Robust PDF support" Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 17:45:46 -0000 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_01BEDAB3.5A84B400" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_01BEDAB3.5A84B400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I'm now using Corel9 for a month or so, and found out there are some great improvements, the 8 version was just a warm up. Publishing your file to PDF: ¬ same options as Distiller. but it seems to me that - distilling speed is faster - files are about the same size Prepress: ¬ as before, separation, option to choose your ppd, preview your film, create imposition files (although I have not try this feature yet) So, to make it short, Corel can place, export (publish) files in a PDF format, generate bookmarks and thumbnails, resample pix, export postscripts and impostions files, generates films...My only regret is the speed to open a new document; since the first Corel, they didnt improve that. Otherwise, it's really a great software, it's just a question how comfortable you feel to work with: Corel 9 or Illustrator 8 (whichi s also a BIG plus in the Iluustrator family!). Hope that helps. J. Eric B. www.gate.net/~twco > I was looking into the new CorelDRAW 9 suite and came across the following > in a list of suite-wide features: > > "Robust PDF support, including import and export, job ticketing, > bookmarks, image downsampling and more" > > I would appreciate comments from anyone with experience using these > features. Also, how is it for PDF source document creation in general? > > Thanks! > > _ > ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ > <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> > <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> > ___________________________________________________________ ------=_NextPart_000_01BEDAB3.5A84B400 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I'm now using Corel9 for a month or so, = and found out there are some great improvements, the 8 version was just = a warm up.
Publishing your file to PDF:
=AC same options as = Distiller. but it seems to me that - distilling speed is faster =
    - = files are about the same size

Prepress: =          
�= 09;=AC as before, separation, option to choose your ppd, preview your = film, create imposition files (although I have not try this feature = yet)

So, to make it short, Corel can place, export (publish) = files in a PDF format, generate bookmarks and thumbnails,  resample = pix, export postscripts and impostions files, generates films...My only = regret is the speed to open a new document; since the first Corel, they = didnt improve that. Otherwise, it's really a great software, it's just a = question how comfortable you feel to work with: Corel 9 or Illustrator 8 = (whichi s also a BIG plus in the Iluustrator family!).

Hope that = helps.

J. Eric B.
www.gate.net/~twco


> I was looking into the new CorelDRAW 9 suite = and came across the following
> in a list of suite-wide = features:
>
> "Robust PDF support, including import = and export, job ticketing,
> bookmarks, image downsampling and = more"
>
> I would appreciate comments from anyone with = experience using these
> features. Also, how is it for PDF source = document creation in general?
>
> Thanks!
>
> = _
> ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * = _____________
> <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe = Acrobat Viewer for Java ->
>     <- = Follow the link at PDFzone.COM:  http://www.pdfzone.com/ = ->
> = ___________________________________________________________

------=_NextPart_000_01BEDAB3.5A84B400-- _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 30-Jul-1999 22:10:35-GMT,3248;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA12365 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 16:10:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA19229; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 17:06:04 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 30 Jul 1999 17:03:34 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA18975; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 17:03:33 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: sjveloff@mailbag.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199907302143.RAA133248@pima.gate.net> References: <199907302143.RAA133248@pima.gate.net> Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 17:04:00 -0500 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Veloff Subject: Re: [PDF] CorelDRAW 9 and "Robust PDF support" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="============_-1278750254==_ma============" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ --============_-1278750254==_ma============ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" > > I was looking into the new CorelDRAW 9 suite and came across the following > > in a list of suite-wide features: > > > > "Robust PDF support, including import and export, job ticketing, > > bookmarks, image downsampling and more" > > > > I would appreciate comments from anyone with experience using these > > features. Also, how is it for PDF source document creation in general? There is some more info on PDFzone.com at ----------------------------- Steve Veloff sjveloff@pdfzone.com http://www.pdfzone.com/ PDFzone.com - Web Development --============_-1278750254==_ma============ Content-Type: text/enriched; charset="us-ascii" Arial> I was looking into the new CorelDRAW 9 suite and came across the following > in a list of suite-wide features: > > "Robust PDF support, including import and export, job ticketing, > bookmarks, image downsampling and more" > > I would appreciate comments from anyone with experience using these > features. Also, how is it for PDF source document creation in general? Arial There is some more info on PDFzone.com at < ----------------------------- Steve Veloff sjveloff@pdfzone.com http://www.pdfzone.com/ PDFzone.com - Web Development --============_-1278750254==_ma============-- _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 31-Jul-1999 0:14:16-GMT,3824;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA15337 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 18:14:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA29801; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 19:10:31 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 30 Jul 1999 19:05:44 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA29438; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 19:05:42 -0500 From: "Ken Silver" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Error messages Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 12:05:33 +1200 Message-ID: <00af01bedae8$68ca2a60$c6304ed1@ksilver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 In-Reply-To: <199907301907.MAA13239@wren.prod.itd.earthlink.net> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > [mailto:owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com]On > Behalf Of C. Scott Miller > Sent: Saturday, July 31, 1999 07:08 AM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: Re: [PDF] Error messages > > > > The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > > > The problem must come when they are uploaded to my site via Claris > > HomePage. I have also tried another ftp program, with no different > > results. I also get these results on Macintosh, using the > Macintosh > > versions of the same programs, and also whether I send > the files as > > attachments in both cases. > > If you suspect Claris HomePage, then don't use it. I create > my webpages in > CHP but upload them using Fetch (Mac version 3.0.3) which > is free and > available through http://www.download.com/. Scott, Brilliant! My problem is solved - after all this time, and it only took a change of an ftp app to do it. I used Fetch on my Mac as you suggested, and, as well as being exceptionally easy to use, it worked like a charm. Now, as a questing sort of person, I have to ask why, why, why... does Claris HomePage in both Mac and PC NOT upload files when it uploads my website perfectly. And why did the windows ftp application (a freeware) fail as well? I'm not expecting an answer... just posing a hypothetical question about the workings of a program mix. However, now I have got the mixture set correctly, I'm not going to experiment any further - even though it means I have to transfer from my PC to my Mac each time to do it. Ken Silver The "How-To" Guru! ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Digital Book Author "How To Make $100,000 A Year Part-Time Creating How-To Manuals At Home." Read the first chapter and contents FREE! Visit: http://www.ksilver.com Member of the Self Publishing Association of New Zealand Join me on the Ken Silver Online Forum: http://network54.com/Forum/11488 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 31-Jul-1999 0:59:11-GMT,5069;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA16300 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 18:59:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA00997; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 19:54:10 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 30 Jul 1999 19:51:21 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA00680; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 19:51:19 -0500 Message-ID: <37A2487B.C3D66A57@frii.com> Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 18:51:08 -0600 From: "Bruce A. Boman" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: Re: [PDF] Error messages References: <00af01bedae8$68ca2a60$c6304ed1@ksilver> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------50852B91CD0D98CC97880833" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------50852B91CD0D98CC97880833 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Could all this be a ascii vs binary transfer problem? Need binary transfer for successful FTPing of PDF files. Ken Silver wrote: > The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ > __________________________________________________________________ > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > > [mailto:owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com]On > > Behalf Of C. Scott Miller > > Sent: Saturday, July 31, 1999 07:08 AM > > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > > Subject: Re: [PDF] Error messages > > > > > > > > The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ > > __________________________________________________________________ > > > > > The problem must come when they are uploaded to my site via Claris > > > HomePage. I have also tried another ftp program, with no different > > > results. I also get these results on Macintosh, using the > > Macintosh > > > versions of the same programs, and also whether I send > > the files as > > > attachments in both cases. > > > > If you suspect Claris HomePage, then don't use it. I create > > my webpages in > > CHP but upload them using Fetch (Mac version 3.0.3) which > > is free and > > available through http://www.download.com/. > > Scott, > > Brilliant! My problem is solved - after all this time, and it only > took a change > of an ftp app to do it. I used Fetch on my Mac as you suggested, and, > as > well as being exceptionally easy to use, it worked like a charm. > > Now, as a questing sort of person, I have to ask why, why, why... does > Claris HomePage in both Mac and PC NOT upload files when it uploads my > website perfectly. > > And why did the windows ftp application (a freeware) fail as well? > > I'm not expecting an answer... just posing a hypothetical question > about > the workings of a program mix. > > However, now I have got the mixture set correctly, I'm not going to > experiment > any further - even though it means I have to transfer from my PC to my > Mac each time to do it. > > Ken Silver > The "How-To" Guru! > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > Digital Book Author > "How To Make $100,000 A Year Part-Time > Creating How-To Manuals At Home." > Read the first chapter and contents FREE! > Visit: http://www.ksilver.com > > Member of the Self Publishing > Association of New Zealand > > Join me on the Ken Silver Online Forum: > http://network54.com/Forum/11488 > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > _ > ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ > <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> > <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> > ___________________________________________________________ --------------50852B91CD0D98CC97880833 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="baboman.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Bruce A. 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Nevada Place, Unit 214;Lakewood;CO;80228;USA version:2.1 email;internet:baboman@frii.com or baboman@ netscape.net x-mozilla-cpt:;4560 fn:Bruce Boman end:vcard --------------50852B91CD0D98CC97880833-- _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 31-Jul-1999 1:23:25-GMT,2468;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA16908 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 19:23:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA03213; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 20:19:43 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 30 Jul 1999 20:16:47 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA02894; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 20:16:45 -0500 From: "Ken Silver" To: Subject: RE: [PDF] Error messages Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 13:16:36 +1200 Message-ID: <00b401bedaf2$558876a0$c6304ed1@ksilver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 In-Reply-To: <37A2487B.C3D66A57@frii.com> Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > [mailto:owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com]On > Behalf Of Bruce A. Boman > Sent: Saturday, July 31, 1999 12:51 PM > To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com > Subject: Re: [PDF] Error messages > > > Could all this be a ascii vs binary transfer problem? Need > binary transfer > for successful FTPing of PDF files. I certainly checked that out early in the process, Bruce. It seems that with Claris HomePage the binary transfer is used as default. There appears to be no way to change that. Ken. > Ken Silver wrote: > > Now, as a questing sort of person, I have to ask why, > >why, why... does > > Claris HomePage in both Mac and PC NOT upload files when >> it uploads my > > website perfectly. _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 31-Jul-1999 1:30:25-GMT,2134;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA17067 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 19:30:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA03671; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 20:24:03 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 30 Jul 1999 20:21:38 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA03424; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 20:21:37 -0500 From: Howard@engg.hku.hk Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19990731092312.0079e320@engg.hku.hk> X-Sender: Howard@engg.hku.hk X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 09:23:12 +0800 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Setting up an intranet with PDF based documents Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hello, I have used Acrobat and Pagemaker to create PDF files for quite a while, but under my new assignment I have to scan about 60,000 piece of document into PDF and setup an intranet and database so that people can access these pdfs through the web. I don't think I have much problem with OCR scanning, but I do need some directions or suggestions on how to setup a database with PDF based documents... My server is running on a NT 4, IIS2, on a dual pentinum processor. If any suggestions or ideas will be appreciated. Thanks in advanced. Howard. _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 31-Jul-1999 4:19:07-GMT,1748;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA20758 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 22:19:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA17880; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 23:14:29 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Fri, 30 Jul 1999 23:10:03 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA17362; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 23:10:00 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.2 Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 09:43:12 +0530 From: "ANIL LILWA" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Re: pdf - batch processing word 97 files Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id XAA17357 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi Is there any method to batch process word'97 files to converted to .pdf? _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 31-Jul-1999 15:53:55-GMT,2285;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA05501 for ; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 09:53:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA00242; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 10:42:51 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 31 Jul 1999 10:36:45 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA32447; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 10:36:43 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990731114050.008dcab0@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 11:40:50 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF file names In-Reply-To: <199907302118.OAA12545@mail.inficad.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > >PC = Office 97 with Acrobat 4. PDF Maker to PDF Writer or Distiller Printer, >or Print to Distiller Printer. In every case I am allowed to pick a file >name that does not include the Microsoft advertisement. > I think I see the confusion here. It's not the file name at issue, it's the document Title (in File, Document Info, Title). Distiller picks up the %%Title: Whatever You Or The App Put Here comment in the PS as the document Title for the PDF Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 31-Jul-1999 15:54:27-GMT,3502;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA05524 for ; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 09:54:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA00749; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 10:49:49 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 31 Jul 1999 10:45:59 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA00412; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 10:45:58 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990731115010.008d3700@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 11:50:10 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: Re: [PDF] CorelDRAW 9 and "Robust PDF support" In-Reply-To: <199907302143.RAA133248@pima.gate.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ As far as doc open speed, let's compare apples to apples. If you're opening an earlier-version CDR, Draw will indeed take a very long time to open it. This is true of most versions I've used. It has to convert the old file format to the new before it can use it. Once it's saved in the new format, file opens should be considerably quicker. There are also other options that affect opening speed. While I haven't tested this, it stands to reason that if you choose file compression, it might cause some files to open more quickly, others more slowly. There are also options for things like bitmap fills; are they stored in the file as is, or regenerated on file open? That should make a difference. Still ... file opens can be slow at times. On the other hand, opening the same AI in Draw 8 or 9 and in Illustrator 7, I much prefer the overall speed of Draw for complex drawings. It may be that Draw's better optimized for NT or but Draw's much faster on my machine than Illo7. Back to PDF, to keep things on topic. One oddity: when you have a Draw file with a placed EPS and publish to PDF, the PDF displays the preview image, not the actual contents of the EPS. There's not much they could do about this w/o provoking a major speed hit, since the PDF export never goes through a PS interpreter. The PDF will print correctly to a PS printer, however; the PS portion of the EPS is preserved as, I believe, a PS passthrough in the PDF. Since this may cause concern when using these PDFs for pre-press, they attach a note to the EPS preview image in the PDF explaining what's going on. Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 31-Jul-1999 16:00:06-GMT,2435;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA05649 for ; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 10:00:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA01227; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 10:53:10 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 31 Jul 1999 10:49:23 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA00697; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 10:49:21 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990731115333.008e6100@pop.iglou.com> X-Sender: rdp@pop.iglou.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 11:53:33 -0400 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Steve Rindsberg Subject: RE: [PDF] Error messages In-Reply-To: <00af01bedae8$68ca2a60$c6304ed1@ksilver> References: <199907301907.MAA13239@wren.prod.itd.earthlink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >Now, as a questing sort of person, I have to ask why, why, why... does >Claris HomePage in both Mac and PC NOT upload files when it uploads my >website perfectly. > >And why did the windows ftp application (a freeware) fail as well? > Per Scott's suggestion, did you check the defaults for binary vs text? Different apps may have different defaults. Text is ok for HTML but is virtually guaranteed to trash any binary file (PDF or other). It seems to me that you're safe leaving it set for Binary at all times (any opinions on that, folks?) Steve Rindsberg President, RDP - a slide imaging service bureau http://www.rdpslides.com Developers of ZAP! Customizable online ordering software for service bureaus http://www.rdpslides.com/zap.htm _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 31-Jul-1999 16:02:05-GMT,2973;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA05680 for ; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 10:02:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA01516; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 10:56:30 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 31 Jul 1999 10:52:40 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA01126; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 10:52:39 -0500 Message-ID: <37A319B7.22FAAF8A@lauterkranz.com> Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 17:43:52 +0200 From: Richard Lauterkranz X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] Document Name References: <19990730000857.740.rocketmail@web503.yahoomail.com> <37A132EC.FE2C5E98@lauterkranz.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Hi Someone Replied to my question regarding: Automatically adding a form-field with document-name during distilling process, with the help of pdf-marks and included javascript. The actual problem is that: If I generate a form field with pdf-marks and add a javascript (in the pdfmark) that executes when the document opens. On Open Acobat gives me a javascript error: "property of var f is not defined". the pdf mark code I use is this: [ /T (testfield) % title /Subtype /Widget /FT /Tx % field type text box /DV (Testing) % default value /Rect [ 75 586 456 663] /F 4 % field is printable /BS << /S /S /W 1 >> % border style solid, width = 1 /MK << /BC [ 1 0 0 ] % border color red /BG [ 1 1 1 ] >> % background color white /ANN pdfmark [ /_objdef {TestScript} /type /dict /OBJ pdfmark [ {TestScript} << /JavaScript << /Names [ (test) << /S /JavaScript /JS (var f = this.getField\("testfield"\);\rvar p = this.path;\rf.value = p.substring(p.lastIndexOf\("/"\) + 1, p.length\);) >>] >> >> /PUT pdfmark [{Catalog} << /Names {TestScript} >> /PUT pdfmark The Javascript can be found in the Document Javascripts. When I put the same code (unescaping the escape characters) into the OpenPage Action of Acrobat: IT WORKS!! Any Idea Thanks richard _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 31-Jul-1999 17:43:42-GMT,2713;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA07871 for ; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 11:43:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA10091; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 12:37:03 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 31 Jul 1999 12:34:02 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA09856; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 12:34:00 -0500 Message-Id: <199907311733.KAA01937@dodo.prod.itd.earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 08:16:01 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Error messages From: "C. Scott Miller" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > Brilliant! I love English expressions - even with a New Zealand accent. > Now, as a questing sort of person, I have to ask why, why, why... does > Claris HomePage in both Mac and PC NOT upload files when it uploads my > website perfectly. Don't know. HTML is text but I don't know what CHP uses to upload .gif or .jpg. CHP users (I monitor the blueworld CHP list serv) have had many problems with its uploader and typically rely on Fetch. > And why did the windows ftp application (a freeware) fail as well? I am not a WINDOW expert (and always suspicious of Microsoft) but I am sure there must be a good WIN uploader that is reliable - anyone? Check Download.com for other free uploaders. > However, now I have got the mixture set correctly, I'm not going to > experiment > any further - even though it means I have to transfer from my PC to my > Mac each time to do it. Glad it works - but you should be able to get it to work on PC. -- HTH, C. Scott Miller PDF R_e_s_e_a_r_c_h__C_o_m_p_a_n_i_o_n A Designer's Guide to Adobe's Portable Document Format http://www.performancegraphics.com _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 31-Jul-1999 22:25:59-GMT,2560;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA13618 for ; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 16:25:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA32038; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 17:07:50 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 31 Jul 1999 17:00:49 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA31440; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 17:00:46 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.5 Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 17:59:02 -0400 From: "Robert Blackberg" To: Subject: Re: [PDF] PDF file names Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by everglades.binc.net id RAA31436 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >>> Steve Rindsberg 07/31/99 11:40AM >>> I think I see the confusion here. It's not the file name at issue, it's the document Title (in File, Document Info, Title). Distiller picks up the %%Title: Whatever You Or The App Put Here comment in the PS as the document Title for the PDF This problem isn't an isolated incident. When I upgraded from Distiller 3.0 to Distiller 3.01, I experienced the same problem. Usually, you wouldn't see the %%Title information so it's not a big deal, but for some reason the %%Title information shows up in the "search results" window when you perform an index search. If there's no information in the %%Title, then the window displays the normal filename. I tried to resolve this problem with Acrobat tech support, but they weren't helpful. I went back to using Distiller 3.0. Robert Blackberg Sr. Technical Writer Fiserv CBS US _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 31-Jul-1999 22:45:48-GMT,2110;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA14061 for ; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 16:45:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA01684; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 17:40:11 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 31 Jul 1999 17:36:18 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA01408; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 17:36:17 -0500 Message-Id: <37A37B1C.299E5BB5@ihs.com> Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 16:39:24 -0600 From: Rebecca Hoag Organization: Information Handling Services X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; I; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4m) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Subject: [PDF] free watermarking tools? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ I just joined this discussion group and am new to the world of PDFs. I am trying to locate any freeware out there (or very cheap commercialware) that will add watermarks to PDFs, plus other tools that handle security permissions and extract certain textual information from a PDF (ie, title, keywords, etc.) I see that most of the stuff out there is for Windows platforms but if there are any for Solaris platforms, that's even better. Thanks in advance, Rebecca Hoag Software Engineer Information Handling Services _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 31-Jul-1999 22:57:09-GMT,2589;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA14290 for ; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 16:57:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA02520; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 17:50:43 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 31 Jul 1999 17:46:55 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA02260; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 17:46:54 -0500 X-Sender: prodok@pop.eunet.ch Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <37A37B1C.299E5BB5@ihs.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1999 00:44:35 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Max Wyss Subject: Re: [PDF] free watermarking tools? Cc: Rebecca Hoag Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Rebecca, one way to add watermarks to PDFs, mainly short ones, would be using a form field with "print-only" set. Another possibility would be usind a printer driver which can place watermarks. For commercial products you might look around in the product listings of PDFZone.com and PlanetPDF.com. Hope, this can help. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch [ Bridging the Knowledge Gap ] ______________________ >I just joined this discussion group and am new to the world of PDFs. >I am trying to locate any freeware out there (or very cheap >commercialware) that will add watermarks to PDFs, plus other tools that >handle security permissions and extract certain textual information from >a PDF (ie, title, keywords, etc.) I see that most of the stuff out >there is for Windows platforms but if there are any for Solaris >platforms, that's even better. _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 31-Jul-1999 23:14:49-GMT,2932;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA14644 for ; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 17:14:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA03987; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 18:07:27 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 31 Jul 1999 18:03:29 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA03713; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 18:03:27 -0500 Message-Id: <199907312303.QAA35587@mail.inficad.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 16:03:24 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Creating PDF Files From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com CC: shans@landolakes.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > We have been creating a few PDF files using PDF Writer and it works fine > for us, but I'm having problems with users complaining that PDF files are > too fuzzy. Is there a way to change the resolution or control how fuzzy > the documents look? The only time that type looks fuzzy is normally when someone is using Type 3 fonts. Do you know what type of fonts you are using? > I also have been reading other messages that are talking about creating PDF > files with Distiller, is there a difference between using Writer and > Distiller? We are saving Excel and Word documents as PDF files and rarely > do they contain images. The PDF Writer was made to facilitate the process of easily creating a PDF file from office documents. Distiller is generally used for making more complicated PDFs, especially those with EPS graphics. Using Distiller is also wise when one needs more custom-tailored settings in the Job Options, as those in the PDF Writer are somewhat limited. As far as the appearance of fonts goes, there should be *no* difference between the PDF Writer and Distiller. > Any ideas? This beginner would appreciate any HELP!!!! If you'll e-mail me a sample file, I'll take a look and should be able to provide a less general answer. > Thanks, > Sarah Hanson > shans@landolakes.com r|i|c|h _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 31-Jul-1999 23:18:07-GMT,1802;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA14700 for ; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 17:17:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA04298; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 18:11:36 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 31 Jul 1999 18:07:45 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA03994; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 18:07:44 -0500 Message-Id: <199907312307.QAA36080@mail.inficad.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 16:07:42 -0700 Subject: Re: [PDF] Re: pdf - batch processing word 97 files From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > Is there any method to batch process word'97 files to converted to .pdf? The simplist way is to print a ps file to a Watched folder. Distiller then works in the background. r|i|c|h _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 1-Aug-1999 0:20:08-GMT,2686;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA15976 for ; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 18:20:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA09149; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 19:13:19 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 31 Jul 1999 19:09:05 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA08636; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 19:09:02 -0500 Message-Id: <199908010008.RAA44845@mail.inficad.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 17:08:58 -0700 Subject: [PDF] PDF FILE NAME WEIRDNESS FROM WORD DOCS From: "Rich Sprague" To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ >>PC = Office 97 with Acrobat 4. PDF Maker to PDF Writer or Distiller Printer, >>or Print to Distiller Printer. In every case I am allowed to pick a file >>name that does not include the Microsoft advertisement. >> > > I think I see the confusion here. It's not the file name at issue, it's > the document Title (in File, Document Info, Title). Distiller picks up the > > %%Title: Whatever You Or The App Put Here > > comment in the PS as the document Title for the PDF > Steve: It's the darn (I'm thinking something else) Distiller Printer driver and/or a conspiracy with Microsoft. I think it's a sorry bug, but I don't know which variety. When the prompt comes up for the file name, it puts in the "Creator", in this case "Microsoft Word" before the file name. I finally got it to do it, but I don't know how, and it comes and goes, and stays. Darndest thing. It only happens when printing to the Distiller Printer, as I tried the same thing in a couple of other programs, including Excel and Publisher, and the "Creator" is not included in the file name. r|i|c|h _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 1-Aug-1999 2:02:05-GMT,1834;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA18001 for ; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 20:02:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA17684; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 20:51:38 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 31 Jul 1999 20:47:29 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA17253; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 20:47:27 -0500 Message-ID: <003101bedbc0$98f8d280$f3c62e9c@liebeno> From: "Terry" To: References: <199908010008.RAA44845@mail.inficad.com> Subject: [PDF] Time out a document Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 20:53:05 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Is there any way to make a PDF document time out after a specified period of time without haveing to purchase a $2500.00 plug-in? _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 1-Aug-1999 2:09:43-GMT,2178;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA18174 for ; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 20:09:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA18293; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 20:57:02 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 31 Jul 1999 20:53:12 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA17928; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 20:53:10 -0500 Message-ID: <003901bedbc1$67206560$f3c62e9c@liebeno> From: "Terry" To: References: <199908010008.RAA44845@mail.inficad.com> Subject: [PDF] Splash Screen Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 20:58:51 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Is there a way to make a custom splash screen file that will stay on screen for a specified period of time and then close and open the begining file of a group of PDF files. I would like to have my customer click on a desktop icon to start my PDF "program" and have my logo on a splash screen come on screen for maybe 10 seconds or so and then go to the start page of the PDF document. Can I do this? Thanks in advance for any help on this question. Terry terry@powerweb.net _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 1-Aug-1999 2:29:02-GMT,2647;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA18569 for ; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 20:29:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA20872; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 21:21:45 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sat, 31 Jul 1999 21:17:30 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA20489; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 21:17:28 -0500 X-Sender: prodok@pop.eunet.ch Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <003901bedbc1$67206560$f3c62e9c@liebeno> References: <199908010008.RAA44845@mail.inficad.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1999 04:14:46 +0200 To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com From: Max Wyss Subject: Re: [PDF] Splash Screen Cc: "Terry" Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ Terry, one thing you can do is set up your splash screen as the very first page of your startup document, and then use a JavaScript which will control the switch to the next page (the starting page proper). If during the session you switch back to the starting page, you might use another document which does not use the "startup show". Hope, this can help. Max Wyss PRODOK Engineering Technical documentation and translations, Electronic Publishing CH-8906 Bonstetten, Switzerland Fax: +41 1 700 20 37 e-mail: mailto:prodok@prodok.ch [ Bridging the Knowledge Gap ] ______________________ >Is there a way to make a custom splash screen file that will stay on screen >for a specified period of time and then close and open the begining file of >a group of PDF files. > >I would like to have my customer click on a desktop icon to start my PDF >"program" and have my logo on a splash screen come on screen for maybe 10 >seconds or so and then go to the start page of the PDF document. Can I do >this? _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________ 1-Aug-1999 5:28:16-GMT,2577;000000000000 Return-Path: Received: from everglades.binc.net (everglades.binc.net [208.155.48.8]) by csc-sun.math.utah.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA22307 for ; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 23:28:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA02959; Sun, 1 Aug 1999 00:21:10 -0500 Received: by everglades.binc.net (bulk_mailer v1.8); Sun, 1 Aug 1999 00:15:17 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by everglades.binc.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA02538; Sun, 1 Aug 1999 00:15:16 -0500 Message-ID: <50AFCE9910E9D211982E00608CF26D1E0B1F48@mail.roundtable.com.au> From: Richard Crocker To: "'pdf@lists.pdfzone.com'" Subject: RE: [PDF] PDF FILE NAME WEIRDNESS FROM WORD DOCS Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1999 15:15:23 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-pdf@lists.pdfzone.com Reply-To: pdf@lists.pdfzone.com X-LISTINFO: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/lists.html X-ARCHIVE: http://www.pdfzone.com/resources/listarchives.html X-CONTACT: mailto:pdfz-listadmin@pdfzone.com The PDF list is sponsored by PDFzone.COM | http://www.pdfzone.com/ __________________________________________________________________ > When the prompt comes up for the file name, it puts in the > "Creator", in this case "Microsoft Word" before the file name. I finally > got it to do it, but I don't know how, and it comes and goes, and stays. > Darndest thing. Rich, I've had the same problem and have found some consistency in when it occurs. I should say here that I'm using Word 2000 not Word 97. * Using PDFMaker does not seem to include the "Microsoft Word -" at the start of the filename * Using File > Print will include "Microsoft Word -". In both cases I'm using Distiller as my default printer. A (somewhat annoying) workaround when using Print rather than PDFMaker is to use Distiller as the default printer. Open Distiller and change the File > Preferences so that you are prompted for the filename before printing begins. You delete the "Microsoft Word -" and then print. I think I also had the 'Print to File' option off. Regards, Richard Crocker rich@planetpdf.com http://www.planetpdf.com A Round Table Solution _ ____________* FREE DEMO - BETA JAVA VIEWER * _____________ <- Available NOW for a limited time: Adobe Acrobat Viewer for Java -> <- Follow the link at PDFzone.COM: http://www.pdfzone.com/ -> ___________________________________________________________